The Honour Guard currently consists of two three man squads, a combat squad, and a support squad.

Your motley crew consists of:

Ensign Zolomon Ringo

A manly man, Zolomon Ringo has been your wingman since the beginning of the ground war, and together you've been getting slapped by women and causing barfights across america.
The man is an unholy menace with a pair of heat axes.
Currently piloting: MS-07B Gouf (Zolomon Custom)

Corporal Jolyne Brande

Joined the unit after you were transferred to the 321 Company. A chequered dossier of insuboordination kept her from promotion on several occaisions, but perhaps if superior officers stopped hitting on her, she wouldn't have to break so many of their jaws.
Practiced in Muai Thai, she is part of the Support Squad as an artillery specialist.

Pilots: MS-06K Zaku Cannon (+ head vulcans)

woot im here ontime finally

YAY, ZEONQUEST!

Wow, that sucks. Hope you feel better soon man.

>>7489694
Saw the earlier note you left saying there wouldn't be Zeonquest today.

Now I find that you're going to work through you illness.

You are awesome, and you should feel awesome! Hope you get better quick.

Does anyone have Shiro Amazaki's pilot image? I'm going to need it in a minute.

Elaine "Ruubens" Arronax

Discovered in the 67th supply depot masquerading as a man, with (as you can see) the worst fake mustache ever. An excellent pilot, if still somewhat green.

Pilots: MS-06F2 Zaku II (+ Head Vulcans)

Your symptoms are that of early serious stage of bird flu.

Get lots of OJ and some immune system boosting foods/pills.

DON'T USE TAMIFLU...look at the side affects. Lots of bad ones like heart failure and Johnstons Diseases (flesh falling off).

>>7490035
Thankfully everything is still on sup/tg/, if you still need it all.

>>7490041

I haven't got bird flu. It's more of the same damn thing I've had for the last fortnight. I'll be fine tommorow most likely.

Private 1st Class Hovis Goddard

A Mobile Armour test pilot who learnt his trade in the Artillery Corps, Hovis is your primary big gun pilot. A polite man of few words, he's always willing to lend a hand.

Pilots: MT-05 Hildolfr

>>7490041
>DON'T USE TAMIFLU
Yes. Don't use the specialist antiviral on the off-chance you're the one guy in 16 billion whose flesh falls off.

>>7490041
If it's anything like I had a couple weeks ago, he'll be doing nothing worse then vomiting and shitting out his insides for about a day or so. Not fun at all, but over quick.

>>7490104

This man here is Private Shiro Amazaki.

Fresh out of the Training School, and placed in the honourguard via nepotism, it remains to be seen if the boy will be a asset or a hinderance. Personality wise, he has a certain naive eagerness about him, but beyond that it's impossible to tell.

Pilots: MS-06F2 Zaku II (+ head vulcans)

>>7490160
Not even throwing up. I just feel totally run down, no matter how much I eat, and then there's near imperciptable pains in my gut, but that's probably something to do with all of the thoroughfare that's been going through it.

I'm 90% sure it's not Diabetes.

THE STORY SO FAR:
You've been somewhat playing matchmaker between your young erstwhile charge: Garma Zabi and one Icelina Eschonbach. After a couple of romantic night dinners at the Zeonic GHQ in California, Garma has made the suggestion that he feels like visiting New York to meet with the troops.

The fact that this is Icelina's hometown that she has been cut off from since the ground invasion is of course a TOTAL COINCIDENCE.

>>7490269

Did we ever bring up the fact that we would be EXTREMELY honored if Garma-Sama trains with us?

*cough cough* sohecangetusedtousandsurviveonthebattlefield*cough cough*

>>7490269

Well, we can´t argue with our boss, But tell him that we should keep a escort, after all, our Mobile Suits arn´t suited for Aircombat/Dogfighting, So should we be ambushed while travelling we might be sitting ducks.

So it is either keeping an Airforce escort occupied or to travel at a low altitude incase of a ambush.

The Generals have hashed out an idea for your perusal. After the business in Canada, they've opted for a slightly larger escort contingent than just a Gaw and you on Dodais.

This time around they are proposing a flight of 2 Gaw's one containing Garma's Zaku and the Hildolfr, and the other containing the rest of squad 2 (and you possible, the Dodai you used last time reported several high stress failures when it was checked out. It's possible that your Prototype Dom is too heavy to safely ride one.)

ANY ADDITIONS YOU WANT TO MAKE TO THE PLAN?

FURTHERMORE, WHAT SORT OF LOADOUT DO YOU WANT?

AND WHILE YOU'RE DISCUSSING THAT, I'LL HAVE MY DINNER.

Livestream gonna be going up in a few minutes.

/zeonquest/old for the best effect.

>>7490365

Maybe we should switch back to our Gouf for the ride over, and Zol back in his Zaku?

A death by falling from a Dodai mid transit isn't too... dignified.

>>7490365
Considering the teaser was named Broken WIngs chances are we are getting ambushed, So we should probably go with lighter, Rapid fire weponary, preferably something specialized in Anti-Air. Leaving the melee stuff behind for now. Solomon can keep his though.
If the Dom can´t be loaded, Try borrowing our old Zaku if possible.

>>7490365
DRINK YOUR FLUIDS.

Anyway, if possible, requisition additional Dopp squadrons to supplement the Gaw's onboard ones, if they have the range.

>>7490354

You have been training with him for a week.

>>7490398

There IS space in the Gaw for your Dom.

>>7490442

AHHH okay.

Yes, back to our gouf and zol back to his Zaku for now then?

>>7490398
i'd be more inclined to just switch our dom with zolo's gouf, and since we're in the air, take a 120mm machinegun in the right hand, i doubt the licquerice whip would be useful in the air....

I say we stay in our Dom. Test it out in combat a bit more.

That thing is awesome.

Also, hope you feel better Apologized. :D

>>7490388

channel is up, streaming MS IGLOO, starting on the third episode.

>>7490491

The Gouf is pretty much speced for Zols personal use now, Using it would probably be pretty hard seeing how we are sane(Or so we think anyway.).

Meanwhile the Zaku is still pretty much the same as when we left it.

I think we should go with the suit we are familiar with in this case.

And let´s not forget that a Melee suit would be in a considerable disadavantage if we were ambushed in air, Zolomon can get by thanks to his incredible aiming skills with the Heat Hawks, Us? Im having my doubts about that.

So i say we take the Dom or Zaku, As the Gouf is now i think that Zolomon is the only one who can make it preform satisfiably in air. (Remember, Zolomon replaced most of the weaponry when he got it.)

>>7490365
Can we get a Dopp Escort as well? Better safe than sorry.

Us: HUGE bazooka (the 880 mm one) and MG, 2 extra MG clips, 2 Crackers. If there's any room left, some smoke grenades.

Zol: 2 Heat Hawks, MG, extra clips and Crackers.

Jolyne: MG, extra clips, Crackers, backup Heat Hawk.

Shiro: Bazooka, 2 extra 'zooka clips, backup Heat Hawk, Crackers.

Elaine: MG, Bazooka, extra ammo for both. Assuming there is still room, Crackers.

Hovis: He's in the Hildolfr.

>>7490515

Ohhh yeah. Lets take the Dom. Replace the carrier we were on with a new one possibly?

Also, make a note to the Zeon engineers about reinforcing the Carriers for Dom flights...

>>7490500
Is that the one with the Rhinoceros?

>>7490515
Well, like Apologized said, our Dodai nearly fell out from under us last time we did that. It seems really unlikely that it'll be able to support us during combat maneuvers. I say we pull out El Muerte Gigante again.

>>7490500

Alternatively, for those Britfags amongst you, Film 4 is currently doing The Battle of Britain.

"Chicken to Shitehawk in one easy lesson! - DAKKADAKKADAKKADAKKADAKKADAKKA!"

Also, since you're the designated test pilot of the Prototype Dom, Zimmad probably aren't going to want other people piloting it. There are ways around certainly, but I just thought I'd mention it.

>>7490540
The Rhino only shows up in the Dreamcast game, Rise From The Ashes.

>>7490575
Awwwww... In case you haven't noticed, I've taken a liking to the Rhino. It would be like having our own personal Land Battleship.

Lets take our Dom, and equip everyone with some anti air. Would be good for our escort duties.

Maybe we can get the Hildorf guy into a zaku, since the Hildorf will be all but impossible to use in mid air...

>>7490610

The Rhino is a... super Zaku Tank though, not a land battleship.

Also, for the record, each Gaw supports 8 Dopp fighters as well as 3 mobile suits. So it will be two Gaw's, 2 Dodai riding Mobile Suits and 16 Dopps.

stick with our DOM

load up everyone else as stated in >>7490526
We'll be fine in the gaw, we can always open the hatch mid-air and SHOOT OUT THE BACK
(or front, I forget which end opens)

lets get this show on the road

>Ctrl + F
>Red Dw*ding*

Seriously?

>David Lister

>>7490679

It was voted for in the very first thread I think.

/tg/ has its heart in the right place.... sorta...

>>7490687

Oh, ok. I only saw this thread, the name David Lister and found no mention of Red Dwarf.

I found it exceedingly odd that I would be the only one to pick up on that.

ZOMG! ZEON = NAZIS!

>>7490662
I still want one.

>>7490526
Gonna revise this and change the 880mm bazooka for a Megella Cannon, Shiro and Elaine replace Bazooka with Magella Cannon.

That should increase our AA capabilities.

>>7490747

Only Gihrens Faction, And im pretty sure that by saving Garma we will avoid Gihren coming to power... And if we go with how "Gihrens Greed" did Garma surviving scenarios chances are Gihren will be our enemy in the future.

come back OP

>>7490792
best not to feed them

>>7490992
Sounds reasonable.

Quick question; it says here http://www.mahq.net/MECHA/gundam/0083/ms-09ftrop.htm that the Dom prototype has a chest-mounted scatter beam. Do we in fact have that, or is that a later development pending laser technology?

>>7490781

This sounds good to me.

Bleh, this >>7491038 is me.

>>7491038

Need more research.

>>7490526
>Can we get a Dopp Escort as well? Better safe than sorry.

>Us: HUGE bazooka (the 880 mm one) and MG, 2 extra MG clips, 2 Crackers. If there's any room left, some smoke grenades.

You can do this if you opt for the 90mm F2 type Assault Rifle. You'll also have space for two grenade reloads for the over-under launcher.

>Zol: 2 Heat Hawks, MG, extra clips and Crackers.

Don't forget he's also got the 3 barrelled 35mm forearm gun under his shield.

>Jolyne: MG, extra clips, Crackers, backup Heat Hawk.

Fine.

>Shiro: Bazooka, 2 extra 'zooka clips, backup Heat Hawk, Crackers.

A zook? For AA? Really?

Elaine: MG, Bazooka, extra ammo for both. Assuming there is still room, Crackers.

Hell yes there is room. See pic.

>Hovis: He's in the Hildolfr.

You can ask for a heavier Dopp escort if you want, but NO METAGAMING. Just because I've called this episode Broken Wings doesn't mean that it'll be your wings that get broken you know.
For all you know you might be helping... a duck with a broken wing, or something.

>>7491038
>Quick question; it says here http://www.mahq.net/MECHA/gundam/0083/ms-09ftrop.htm that the Dom prototype has a chest-mounted scatter beam. Do we in fact have that, or is that a later development pending laser technology?

You don't have one. Be fair, I've given you the Dom Prototype a little bit earlier than it appears in canon.

>>7491086

Quack.

Couldn't we load up the zooka with fragmentation rounds? A mix between them, initial Bazooka mag with fragmentation rounds and the other two mags frag and regular AP?

>>7490992
That was me, forgot to mention some reasons and such.

>>7490781

I think we should keep the 880mm Bazooka, After all if all goes well, we will probably be having ground battles while being in New York.
Crippling our strenght via Overspecialization would be devastating.

And the Bazooka can clear heavier targets pretty easily. So should we run into something heavily armored we would still have the raw power to deal with it.

Shiro or Elaine can take a Magella though, The other can go with standard equipment, Let them decide who gets it.

>>7490970
Ah, Ok.

>>7491038
This is a very good point, A answer would be great.

>>7491086
I say that we do

David: 880mm Bazooka
Shiro: Magella Cannon.
Elaine: Normal Bazooka

Seems like a solid set up for the heavy weaponary.

>>7491086
i'd go withMG for shiro, and an extra wing of dopps

>>7491086
I wasn't trying to metagame; you didn't mention that we already had a dopp escort when I was writing that, so I assumed we didn't have one. Knowing that we have an escort of 16 sits just fine with me.

Please see >>7490781
for revision. Only, don't actually drop the 880 zooka.

>>7491038
Only the production models have the scattering beam cannon. That one's a special use modular version for deserts or jungles.

http://mahq.net/mecha/gundam/msv/yms-09.htm This is the one we're using. Being a prototype, it lacks the scattergun and the massive raketen bazooka of the later model.

Woo, Zeonquest, and I'm actually on time this week!

Thanks for working through the shitstorm, Apologized.

Is Zol's Gouf 7B just our former 7A upgraded, or do we have two Goufs?

>>7491211

The same, But it´s now melee specialized.

Meaning most of the ranged weaponry is gone and replaced with Melee weapons.

>>7491179
Okay.

Themoreyouknow.jpg

>>7491179
That's not even a beam gun, it's basically a bright flash of light to temporarily blind or overload enemy cameras

>>7491211
Actually, come to think of it, why not try training Garma in a Gouf as well?

I mean, we do want to breed out his "charge at the drop of a hat" tendencies, but if he seems like he would honestly be better at close combat then why not give him a machine that can actually do that?

Also, tactics-wise, we should keep our Dom in the rear as a sort of mobile reserve. Not because we're protecting our own skin, but because the FUCKHUGE bazooka seems like a "kill things from miles away" sort of weapon, and because the superior speed of the Dom would actually allow us to keep moving back and forth as different parts of the squad need support.

>>7491292
To add to this, because I hadn't thought of it when I posted this, we should get some of Jolyne's input on the Dom as well. High mobility + high carrying capacity = amazing field artillery platform, at least potentially, and we might want to send that idea back to GHQ.

Heck, we're looking at a combined arms deal here. Goufs and their successors at close range, Doms as highly mobile support units, Zaku-successors as your multi-role line infantry, mobile armors like the Hildolfr as heavy artillery and anti-capship units.

>>7491148
>Couldn't we load up the zooka with fragmentation rounds? A mix between them, initial Bazooka mag with fragmentation rounds and the other two mags frag and regular AP?

Zaku Zooks only come with HE ammo. Also, for those people asking for Cracker 'nades, how about Panzerfausts instead?

>>7491166
>David: 880mm Bazooka
>Shiro: Magella Cannon.
>Elaine: Normal Bazooka

>Seems like a solid set up for the heavy weaponary.

>>7491175

You order an extra squadron of 15 Dopps to accompany you on the journey. The Generals agree and put the extra squadron under the command of Garma's Gaw.

SHALL WE BE OFF?

>>7491369

Panzerfausts for everyone! Its a party. :3

>>7491369
When did we get a raketen? I was under the impression the prototype only had a 360mm bazooka.

Also yeah, panzerfausts instead of grenades where possible.

>>7491369
Onwards to glory and matchmaking!

>>7491351
One last thought, for now: assuming it isn't either really metagame-y or a question that Dave just wouldn't think to ask, why don't we ask Okawara about any ways the Feddies might be getting around the power issues that beam weapons have?

I mean, we know they're putting a decent bit of research into it, but we can probably safely assume that they haven't vastly improved the reactors they'd have available (except maybe on the Gundam, but we definitely don't know that), so they must have some way of getting enough power delivered to a beam weapon in a single burst to make it useful.

And yes, this is what we're thinking of in-character; out-of-character, I know that we're basically talking about the capacitor system the Feddies used on the GMs.

>>7491369
CHALKS AWAY!

>>7491369
Make sure to take both Garma and Icelina to Katz's Delicatessen, as long as we're on Manhattan.

First, because they should get a chance to experience a bit more of the "commoner" crowd, and second, because introducing somebody to Katz's pastrami is one of the greatest gifts it's possible to give.

>>7491369

Sure, why not. Draw stick with the others in the squad on who will accompany Garma and Icelina on their "Not dates" when we get to New York.

>>7491429

This reminds me, didn't we find some plans that involved Zeon getting beam weapons early?

Wasn't it at that Area 51 base?

A new combat ritual to start if we get into a fight here in New York, to be done whenever we have time and so long as we're Garma's personal guard: everyone in the squad runs a hand through his hair before heading out.

For luck.

At least, that's what we'll keep telling ourselves.

>>7491490
Yep. Well, not Area 51, but at Roswell. It decreased the time until beam weapons are available for us by 2 weeks.

>>7491502
I lol'd.

>>7491502
SYNCHRONISED HAIRFLICKING

>>7491541

OH GOD D:

So, back on track, whats the final loadout?

I say! Let's do the haka!

In our mechas.

>>7491401
>When did we get a raketen? I was under the impression the prototype only had a 360mm bazooka.

And you would be right. The Rataken doesn't come in until much later.

>Panzerfausts for everyone! Its a party. :3

Excellent, I'll swap those out.

>Okawara about any ways the Feddies might be getting around the power issues that beam weapons have?

Feddies haven't been using beam weapons. The closest thing you've seen to a fed beam weapon was the Beam Saber Tank, and THAT thing had a goddamn Nuclear Powerplant on it's back.

>To add to this, because I hadn't thought of it when I posted this, we should get some of Jolyne's input on the Dom as well. High mobility + high carrying capacity = amazing field artillery platform, at least potentially, and we might want to send that idea back to GHQ.

You still need to clear it with Zimmad at some point later. They'd probably be fine with it, and you'd more than likely hasten and widen the production of the MS-09K Dom Cannon (Pic Related)

>>7491428
>Onwards to glory and matchmaking!

HUZZAH!

The following morning, you all begin boarding your respective rides for New York.
You are entirely unsuprised to see that Icelina is joining you on this trip.

By 9:00 am you are all up in the air, flying from Cali to New York.

>>7491705
If a Dom with a Cannon is a Dom Cannon...
Is our Dom with Guns... A... GUN DOM?

>>7491745

DONT SAY IT! OH NO! ITS AMURO! RUN FOR YOUR *GURK*

>... A... GUN DOM?

once the Gundom is mass produced both sides will agree on negotiations!

>>7491705
Well, let's clear that with Zimmad, then.

While nothing else major is going on, why don't we sit back and talk to the other members of the squad a bit. Shoot the shit, find out useful character info, yadda yadda yadda.

On a completely different note (although maybe this might be more appropriate for Strauss) consider "leaking" to the Feddies a forged Zeon internal memo stating that people who're one mission away from retirement, who just got engaged or are about to pop the question, who have pictures of spouse/kids/significant other in prominent places and who can't stop talking about them, and other similar types have been found to be the best mobile suit pilots.

Then trollface.

>>7491745
Puns for the Pun God!

>>7491705
Great! Now make sure that no one goes into the room that they're in. It would be a huge faux pas to interrupt his Majesty while with a Lady.

>>7491745
>>7491791

Apologized, we've found our tagline for our new suit:

IT'S A GUNDOM! RUN!

>>7491823
If they start getting too noisy, though, we reserve the right to crowd around the door and start loudly offering "helpful" suggestions.

>>7491745
Paint this immediately on our Dom somewhere.

Preferably on the face in cheapo Sharpee marker.

>>7491820


Seems like a good idea, Try Giving some Protips to Shiro, Comment on Elaine/Ruubens stache and Make sure hovis didn´t get any booze...

If they are on the same Dopp i mean, I mean We did split into 2 groups didn´t we?

Infact, who is on what Dopp?

>>7491705
Reading up on the suits at MAHQ, it seems like one idea we might want to try to introduce earlier is the United Maintenance Plan. Improved logistics would make the whole war run more smoothly.

>>7491895
Elaine doesn't wear the 'stache anymore. We still have it in our inventory, I think. Also, the Dopps are the fighters escorting us. We are in a Gaw. Just FYI.

>>7491705
How much are we likely to have accelerated research that will lead to the MS-14 Gelgoog line? Because the earlier that suit gets out, the better for Zeon.

>>7491948
Oh right, Mobile Armor names arn´t my strong side.

>>7491895
I was just wondering that myself.

And we had two Dodai's, right? If we still have a choice I'd put Zol and whoever had the Magella cannon on them. Garma will be fine with just Hovis in his Gaw with all the rest of us in the second.

>>7491974
Odds are not before Project V finishes their work. The Federation still has a massive head start on us.

>>7491981
No worries.

>>7491994
I guess the issue here is where the Feddie advantage is. Beam weapons seems to be the big thing, at least as far as stuff that wasn't just being used to make Amuro even more of a walking rape machine.

Were there any other major canon innovations that the Feddies had relative to Zeon suits?

And for that matter, has our mention of Feddie mobile suits after our time in the desert had any follow-on effects? Not just in terms of our having a direct line to warn Garma, but also in terms of other similar reports coming in from other fronts being taken more seriously?

I'm gonna repost something I dropped in at the end of one of the last batch of threads, just as a strategy idea:

You know, perhaps we should try recommending to Garma that Zeonic forces start getting a stable defensive line ready, a la the Hindenberg line in WWI. Just before the Feddies begin their inevitable counteroffensive, Zeon pulls back to lines that are actually defensible with its available resources, evacuating or destroying anything of possible use to the Feddies as they do it.

>>7492085

I agree to this, but we are jus his body guard... how would we get him ot listen to us?

>>7492085
there is no retreat for Zeon.

The longer this war lasts, the more certain our defeat. Grim news I know, but it's the truth.

A defensive war of attrition is inglorious, absolute defeat.

>>7492096
We're also a Knight of Zeon with an assload of medals. If we come up with something more than a vague idea, then he could pass it on to the general staff to see what they think of it.

>>7492040
Garma has already said that he knows that the Fed's titanic industrial base is their main advantage now, and that the longer the war drags on, the better their situation will get.

As far as suit development goes, the V Project's main breakthroughs were in beam weapons and in armor materials. It pioneered luna titanium alloy as armor, which is what gave the Gundam and its fellows their legendary immunity to most projectile weapons. The only other major innovation I can think of is the electromagnetic joint coating solution, but we don't have to worry about that until after Amuro becomes a rape machine.

>>7492134
Can't we just... find Amuro and kill him before he gets the Gundam? I know it's meta, but god... I just want to crush the life out of him.

>>7492040

Im pretty sure that in the end it comes down to that the feddies get a solid MP Suit for all purposes while Zeon goes "MORE PROTOTYPES THAT WILL NEVER BE MASSPRODUCED!" even though the reasources available are far slimmer. So in the end it ended up being economy that defeated Zeon... Not the Feddies.

>>7492134
Don´t forget the Coreblock system, It never gets into the GMs, But still had pretty big effect what with essentially being the first MS escape pod.

>>7492162
Nope. He's currently a nerdy little nobody up in one of the colonies, about as far away from us as he can get.

>>7492162

Or, if we screw up we could make him even more angry and resentful when he gets hes rape machine.

... lets just go on shall we? D:

>Were there any other major canon innovations that the Feddies had relative to Zeon suits?

Improved computers in the Gundam and a limited AI, making piloting easier and probably raising survivability quiet a bit too.

>>7492162
Reposting to answer this.

For all we know the colony he is on is neutral, And amuro is currently a civilian, Meaning killing him would make us just as bad ... Hell it would make us WORSE then him.

>>7492172
This is true, though that was partly Gihren's fault, with his fetish for superweapons. Keeping Garma alive would keep the more sensible Dozle sane, and would likely prevent that.

Either way, we need to keep R&D's focus on effective MP designs, not ridiculous MAs projects like the Apsalus or Dolos supercarriers.

You are currently in a Gaw with Shiro and Jolyne.

"So, you run into any trouble back in canada?"

"Well, we did bump into a couple of Parachute Light Tanks, but Ensign Ringo dealt with those by himself." Shiro says.

"Well, in our case, some of the tanks must have noticed all of the triple-a me and Hovis were putting out. Sent two squads after us. Turns out none of them were packing high enough caliber guns to pierce the Hilda, so he just ran over them with is tracks a few times."

Good thing you worked out that problem with the tracks getting caught in debris back in Arizona.

The time is 11pm. You are currently flying over Kansas. Over the horn comes the Gaw captain.

"Captain Killroy to all forces, AWAC units on the Minovsky Zone border are reporting enemy air forces. Two wings of Fly Manta Fighter/Bombers, Dopp Squadron change formation to aft facing and prepare to intercept once they enter the Minovsky field. All other forces stay on alert!"

YOUR ORDERS TO YOUR SQUAD?

>>7492231

I kind like the Dolos...

>>7492239
climb onto the wings of the GAWs

ride to glory on our noble steeds

pic related, it's the plan too awesome to fail

>>7492215
>>7492185
>>7492179
I know. It would just save so much hassle that I had to ask.

>>7492239
Get Jolyne and Shiro on Dodais and start with the Ack-Ack! We'll just wait since we're to heavy for the Dodai.

>>7492239
You heard the man. Get everyone suited up and buttoned up in their MSs. The Gaw captain knows what he's doing at the moment.

>>7492134
>>7492111
>>7492172

I'll try to flesh out this strategy a bit more, then.

As Zeon, that population/industry imbalance means that we are not going to be able to simply conquer the Federation. We don't have the ability to do it, and we sure as hell don't have the ability to hold on to it afterwards if we did somehow do it.

Furthermore, because of the same imbalance, there are limits to just how far we can expand before our lines are thin enough for the Feddies to be able to concentrate their forces and break through.

Our big advantage is that we do currently have the initiative; the Feddies simply don't have the tech to beat us on quality (yet) and we still have a good month or three before they pull themselves back together enough to launch a major, sustained offensive. That is not, however, enough time for us to win if we keep attacking, as they do have enough forces in the field to mount a mostly-adequate defensive.

>>7492239

Tell everyone to get ready to sortie, That you will use the loading hatch to snipe anthing that positions it self so we can reach it, to be careful not to hit any allies and all the normal jazz.

Tell the we will sortie in the GunDOM.

>>7492162
I'd rather get in on the attack on Side 7 and try to actually steal one of the two prototypes that were destroyed during that attack in canon.

I mean, stealing both would be even better, but we can settle for one. And we may as well introduce the proud Gundamjack tradition to the One Year War.

>>7492291

>>7492239
Get the ack-ack out on Dodais.

Zolomon gets to try out his new triple-barreled forearm gun.

Can the Gaw's skin support our weight? If so, we stand on top of it and start shooting things while keeping an eye out for a second wave or something.

And if it looks like we can manage it, we should try doing the Mario to the incoming Feddies, using our last rocket jump to send us back to the Gaw.

>>7492462
>>7492440
>>7492291
that's three votes for riding into legend.

come on, Zeon needs a new propaganda boy, and we are damn sexy.

I think we're beign too enthusiastic with our "Jump ot of a high-altitude transport plane" line of thinking here.

We've faced 2 wings of Flys before. For now, let our extra Dopp support and our pilots already on the Dodais handle it. Heading out unnecesarialy is just going to be a waste right now, and will probably lead to us plummetting a few thousand feet to the ground.

>>7492532
I am inclined to agree. Though if we do do it and fall, it shouldn't be fatal since we've made combat jumps before, and in a Zaku 2 no less.

>>7492389

I´ll rant now, So please excuse me.

Actually, Looking at our chances, this seems kinda silly, To get in on that attack we would need to join up with Char, the one who set the things that ended in Zeons defeat into motion, we would proably not have a very good mobile suit available since it was a RECON mission rather then a full out attack. Ina normal Zaku we have NO chance in hell to defeat Amuro, First Sortie or not.

Meanwhile we have a better chance at changin the political climate to our adavantage here, Do you REALLY think we would have found those documents if we were fighting in Space.

Let´s not forget that by saving Garma we.

1) Keep Old man Zabi sane.
2) Foil Chars plans to ruin Zeon just because his dad died.
3) Possibly improve relations with earth via his and Icelina´s Relationship.
4) Keep Gihren from power.
5) Make us gain territory on earth faster, Possibly making us get Jaburo earlier, Meaning that we can get to it faster if White Base somehow would get away.
6) If we some how fail at saving Garma(God Forbid.), we can join up with Ramba Ral, Giving him the additional firepower he needs to take White Base


Now, What is the best course of action for Zeon?
>>7492532
Yes, Seems like a good ideas, there are times to do some stuff, we can always do it later if neccesary, No need to it right at the start of a fight, Keep it as a trump card.

>Tell everyone to get ready to sortie, That you will use the loading hatch to snipe anthing that positions it self so we can reach it, to be careful not to hit any allies and all the normal jazz.

You tell everyone to load up and stay on alert. You ask for a report from the member of your squad on Dodais.

"Nothing on visual yet, it is pretty cloudy though." Zolomon reports

Outside you think you can hear the Dopps split from the main group to intercept the Fly Mantas.
A minute later the Captain opens comms again.
"Now hear this! Now hear this! Second Fly-Manta squadron detected! 15 Planes strong, scrambling Parasited Dopps to intercept! All forces stay on heavy alert!"

ANY ADDITIONAL ORDERS?

SORRY ABOUT THE SLOW POSTING SPEED, I'M JUST TIRED.

>>7492658
chin up old chap, we will bear with you

for Zeon

>>7492593

Does our Dom have rocket jets though? I thought it just had the hover-fans, and not the jump boosters the Zakus had. We'd be much, much worse off.

>>7492353
While waiting, more strategizing.

Our best solution is to find solid defensive lines NOW and start fortifying them. Get the infrastructure rebuilt, supply dumps readied, and all other preparations made. This also includes getting as much of the industrial plant and resource extraction in the occupied zones as possible running again, for our use. Any areas we will withdraw from as a result of this plan will have as much in the way of useful materials removed as possible; anything that cannot be removed will be destroyed, preventing the Feddies from using it once the territory is retaken. This also means that in order to reach our primary defensive line, the Feddies will have to traverse a zone at minimum several miles deep where the infrastructure needed to support such an advance is totally gone and will have to be rebuilt from scratch.

Further offensives should be limited and specific, aimed either at acquiring better terrain from which to mount that defense, at seizing especially vital resource deposits, or at denying some critical facility to the Feddies.

This bit of relative downtime would also give us the chance to devote more resources and effort to developing and fielding our own next-generation weaponry, instead of replacements for gear worn out by the stresses of constant offensive operations.

Even more critical, it would give us time to actually train proper replacements for the skilled personnel lost during the One Week War and Loum, instead of immediately committing them to support further offensives or to desperately hold the line against Feddie attacks.

>>7492658

A Gaw's guns are front mounted, along with the hatch, right? If they're coming on in a mass, see if the Gaw can point towards them and time their fire with us spamming shots out of the bay doors.

>>7492697
I'm fairly sure it has even more powerful thrusters than the Zaku.

>>7492716

We had an plan for long term peace and stability paper sent further up.I'm pretty sure it didn't include your very good points.

Maybe we can add an addendum to have the resources we've takend producing for zeon groundside?

It'd free up the fleet for maknig supply drops and such...

>>7492644
Either way, it's still a few months off; we're in June, and IIRC Char and Amuro's first encounter wasn't until September. We'll know more about the relevant situations when we get there.

>>7492716
Actually this is already happening, if I remember my timeline right. What you're proposing sounds exactly like Zeon's current operations in Odessa and California.

>>7492697
It has jets out the ass, almost literally; the reason why it's so fast is because of the thermonuclear jets in the waist skirt and the legs.

>>7492658
Turn on targeting computer...

I mean, We forgot to do that like half the war so far already, Might as well start using it.

>>7492803
Those are simple hoverjets. I know the production model has back-mounted rocket thrusters like the Zaku and Gouf, but the prototype might not have them equipped yet.

>>7492788
Hmm. Is there anywhere on the Intertubes that has a useful, English-language timeline that would have more info on exactly what Zeon was doing? Because I'd kind of gotten the impression that this was another area where they were similar to the WWII Germans and Japanese; they stayed on the offensive far too long and didn't start preparing a solid defensive effort until it was far too late.

>>7492756

Mrf. Looking at the stats for the thing, the Proto-Gouf doesn't even have the fanjets listed - just rocket thrusters of unknown capacity. The Mass-production Dom just has the fanjets, with a much lower total output that the Zaku's rockets.

So yeah. Up the the GM, I think.

>>7492807
Obi wan Kenobi says "the FUCK you think you're doing?"

If there's any chance at all of us going Newtype, doing everything manually should improve it.

>>7492846

And by "lower" I meant "Higher". Damn my brain.

>>7492868
So if we fall, they should be able to slow us down enough that we don't die or wreck the Dom, right?

>>7492840
I was reading off the description of the YMS-09 Prototype Dom at MAHQ. Can't vouch for their accuracy, but I think it's supposed to be pretty good.

>Does our Dom have rocket jets though? I thought it just had the hover-fans, and not the jump boosters the Zakus had. We'd be much, much worse off.

It has a backpack with thrusters, you COULD survive an airdrop (Dom's did it at Odessa when trying to support the area after all), but you have less margin for error than the Zaku does. So if you do end up bailing out, try not to get hit by AA Missiles on the way down.

You hear the 'thunk' 'thunk' of the Gaw launching it Dopp fighters from it's parasite bays.
You double check your suit, all systems read green, you check up with the rest of the squad, and they report likewise.

"I can see some of the fighting, visibility aint great though. It doesn't look like it's going to spread our way" Reports Zol.

>>7492888

NFC, really. Output is greater, but the jets themselves are designed for hovering us a few feet off the ground and moving us very fast, very horizontally.

I'm doubtful that they'd be all that useful in arresting a high-altitude freefall.

>>7492844
http://www.dyarstraights.com/msgundam/timeline.html

The Universal Century Master Timeline. Might not be as focused on individual operations, but it's comprehensive enough.

>>7492861
On the other hand, Fighting WITH a computer worked for Both Char, Amuro, Kamille and every other newtype in the franchise, And i prefer to think we are good enough pilot without NewType abilities.

We might as well try it this once to see how it works, If the difference is neglectable we can turn it off again, It it makes us just as good as Zolomon is, we might aswell keep it on.

>>7492946
mother of god . . .

that's amazing.

>>7492946
Good. If we're lucky, we won't have to fire a single shot.

>>7492946

Hold position. Await further development of the situation before acting.

>>7492987
this.

Hurry up and wait, as they say.

>>7492987
Ah, but when have things ever gone so smoothly for us? Keep scanning for a potential third wave.

>>7492946

Tell Zolomon that nothing they can do can Compare with the Power of our GunDOM.

Keep the balance and get ready to shoot the enemies that give you the oportunities to do so. Stay completely focused on the task at hand.

What we should do is get the whole unified spare parts program running as early as possible. Rick Doms up in this shit. Interchangable parts, cheaper and faster mass-production.
Got to make every bit count and early too.

>>7492948
Thanks. Reading now.

>>7492948

I'm using Mark Simmons one at: http://www.ultimatemark.com/gundam/timeline.php

After another three minutes the captain opens comms up AGAIN. You know that it's not good news now.

"Another group of enemy fighters along our flightpath! Appears to be two wings of Saberfish Heavy Fighters! Moving the Gaw's into close formation! All supporting mobile suits prepare for possible emergency paradrop!"

YOUR ORDERS?

>>7493157
We prepare for possible emergency paradrop. Get everyone who can ride effectively on a Dodai mounted up. I suppose Garma and Icelina will have to share his Zaku. Somehow, I doubt he'll mind.

Us and the Hildolfr have some sort of paradrop stuff, right?

>>7493157

we're not going to have to Walk to New York are we?

>>7493157
Alright, NOW it's time to do the Mario. Let's go net ourselves some Saberfish kills.

>>7493157

Well, crap.

Prepare for emergency Paradrop, I suppose. It's not like we can do mch else right now.

Make sure Garma is in his Zaku. (Along with Icelina, if we brought her.)

>>7493157
showtime

Do what the man say, Give out the order of the Paradrop.

Group 1:
1: Shiro
2: Jolyne
3: David

Group 2:

1: Elaine
2: Hovis(If Possible)
3: Zolomon

That way Shiro can give us AA cover while we drop, We and Zoloman are the least AA equipped so we have to lowest priority to get out.

Aren't Gaws pretty much loaded with weaponry?

FIRE EVERYTHING

load up, prepear for air drop, and get our screaming voice ready

"where jump on to new york, agh!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e8zUqP8yu4&feature=video_response

>>7493245
Cast in the name of God.

Ye not Guilty.

>>7493220

If Garma have Icelina on his Zaku his movement will be limited(Cramped Cockpit), Better get to him ASAP, He will be sitting ducks out there, Especially with his attitude and that he will probably go nuts trying to protect her.

>>7493321
Well since she's with him, then that mean's he'll have to protect himself too. Could be a good learning experience.

>>7493120
The MS-09F Dom Funf looks like what we want to have coming out.

And it seems to me as if the Zeonic Company/Zimmad oneupsmanship race didn't do Zeon any favors as far as getting any mass-production stuff going.

>>7493335

Ah, Yes, He will appriceate that we taught him how to be defensive, But he still lack actual experience in it, He may be a good pilot, But even thos can be taken down by raw numbers, And let´s not forget that Icelina is probably freaking out about now, That is bound to distract him.

>Get everyone who can ride effectively on a Dodai mounted up.

Luckily, the Gaw's are carrying a couple of spare Dodais and Jolyne and Shiro are able to mount in mid air. With some trouble, Shiro nearly stumbles whilst jumping and the Dodai takes a little bit of damage, luckily it's still working.

Garma can't dismount until the Hildolfr get's out of the way, and there's no way for that thing to ride a dodai.

If you want to reach out and climb up on top of the Gaw, now is the time to to it.

>>7493249
I think that Zol's triple-barreled 35mm Gatling should give him decent AA capabilities.

>>7493394
Yes, climb on top of the Gaw. We can still make our way down afterwards, and it's the only chance we have of doing something useful while still in the air.

As for what I think we should do once we're on top of the Gaw, see >>7493202.

>>7493394

WAVERID... I MEAN GAWRIDER TIME!

Y'know, if Icelina dies somehow, I fully expect Garma to turn into Gihren 2.0, but less incompetent and prototype-focused and more insanely brutal.

>>7493305

oddly enough, that happens to be my msn name atm...

>>7493394
let's do it, we need to cover the hildolfr and the rest of our squad as they make their drops.
We should focus on protecting these gaws, I really don't want to have to walk from Kansas to New York.

>>7493394
Didn't the Hildolfr arrive via airdrop? Can't it do that now?

make for the top of the gaw, cover them as much as possble, and then jump down. if possble, see if we can get a dodai to help us down, tho as mentioned, they kinda brake...so...we'll see?

>>7493458

They´ll send replacements if we lose them, BUT!

Losing 2 Gaws won´t help Garma´s MUST PROVE SELF thing he has going on.

And think of Lord Garmas hair products, How will he keep his hair in shape if he don´t have those around?

>>7493394

Mmm. Jo is almost Dedicated AA, but Shiro is proving to be of questionable ability. Put a Rookie and a Veteran together and you may as well have one regular soldier.

Eh, might as well go out. If we start getting screamed at for breaking the Gaw, we'll go back in. (After we save their asses.)

on a side note, when we mount the gaw's make sure our squad knows to stay on the fuselage. If we walk out onto the wings, we will seriously impede the flight characteristics and controllability of the gaw.

A mobile suit on the wing would be like putting a giant air brake on one wing.

>>7493512

the rookie might pick something up.

>>7493448
>oddly enough, that happens to be my msn name atm...

What? Dorothy?

You reach up and with a firm grip and pull yourself up on top of the Gaw. Whilst the wind buffets you, you're able to use your thrusters to steady yourself and get yourslef up on top of the heavy airplane.
I don't reccomend using the hoverjets though, flying about with termonuclear fanjets might be detrimental to the planes... existence.

You prepare your Bazooka to repel the enemy assault whilst the rest of the Dodai flyers line up in front of the Gaws.

YOUR ORDERS?

>>7493512

Well it is only like Shiros 2nd or 3rd sortie. And he probably isn´t a newtype, And is like half of the squads average age. Cut him some slack... For now.

>>7492948
Hmm. Looks to me as if Zeon sort of did what I was proposing, but only in California and Ukraine, not as planet-wide policy. Elsewhere it looks like they kept attacking pretty much until the Gundam/GMs started showing up and wrecking Zeon's shit.

>>7493512
has the rookie proved himself incompetent?

I say we give him a fair chance, you have to learn sometime.

Tear them from the sky! Let them know who's hand kills them!

>>7493487

Booting it out of a plane into the middle of nowhere before we reach our destination probably isn't a good idea, is what I think he means.

GOD FUCKING DAMN IT I AM SO LATE AS ALWAYS

>>7493507

>Lord Garma's hair products


TOP PRIORITY

WE MUST TOUCH THAT HAIR

>>7493576
Jump from the Gaw purely mechanically, only using the jets to assist once clear and if necessary.

Land on one of the incoming Saberfish. Do a jet jump from it onto the next one. Repeat as needed until either they're all dead or they break and run. Then jump back to the Gaw, using the jets to slow our descent while still high enough above it that we aren't frying our ride; the last bit of the fall onto the Gaw we'll just have to take without the jumpjet assist.

>>7493576

admrial cadubry - cast in the name of god, ye not guilty

tho i could change my name to r wainright...

we wont jump ship untill the shit truely hits the fan, and then we must protect garma...so we might touch his amazing hair.

>>7493656
>Land on one of the incoming Saberfish

This could end very poorly. Especially if we find ourselves rapidly falling and too far from another flying koopa troopa.

It is, however, awesome. If rockets are not effective enough, do this.

>>7493656
If the gaw starts going down then fine we should bail.

Otherwise I see no reason to leave our nice, stable shooting platform/only ride.

>>7493604
Did you see the speed that thing is capable of moving? It can reach NY from Kansas in a few hours I'm sure.

But yeah, point taken.

>>7493656

on second thoughts, i second this. its an epic idea

>>7493726
If the Gaw has to do any serious evasive maneuvers, our stable shooting platform becomes much less so.

>>7493656
>Land on one of the incoming Saberfish. Do a jet jump from it onto the next one. Repeat as needed until either they're all dead or they break and run. Then jump back to the Gaw, using the jets to slow our descent while still high enough above it that we aren't frying our ride; the last bit of the fall onto the Gaw we'll just have to take without the jumpjet assist.

WAT. Your suit is nowhere NEAR agile enough for this.

How will you be handling the incoming forces? Will you have the Dodai's rush out to meet them before they reach the Gaws? Will you keep them close? When will you have the Hildolfr and Garma paradrop? Are there any specific orders for the Gaws? Should they drop altitude? Should they raise altitude?

>>7493809
Ah, But we should try keeping ourselves on high altitude for as long as possible, We have a better vantage point here,If we tell the Gaw to warn uf if they make any emergeny manouvers we should be fine.

>>7493837

Then we'll make it agile enough.
Pushing this thing to its limits is exactly what's needed. Even if we fall, we could just have a Dodai catch us or burn our thermonuclear jets to soften our fall.

>>7493837

Send out the Dodais ahead, Have The Hilda and Garma Paradrop while the enmy is distracted have the Gaws go low to make the enmies drop in altitude, Making them easier for the MS to hit.

>>7493837
Right, lets keep the Dodais behind the Gaws for now. Wait until the Saberfish have finished their strafing run, then attack them from behind. We and the Gaws should start firing at the incoming fighters, and try to have the Gaws increase altitude a bit to evade incoming fire.

>>7493837
if they're comingin to the front, let them come in close, and let the gaws and dopps open up on them, while we mop up the ones who scatter

>>7493837
gaws drop altitude and maintain CLOSE formation.
prep garma and the hildolfr for paradrop and have them on standby, ready to go at a moments notice.

push dodai's forward to screen incoming heavy fighters and buy time for the gaws to complete the altitude maneuver.

Lister stays atop his gaw mount, ready to defend it from anything that gets past the dodai screen.

ask the captain for an update on how the first two waves of feddie's are faring, and if we can expect any of our allies back any time soon.

>>7493837
Grab the Hildolfr and pull it up on top of the Gaw with us, then we jump across to the other Gaw.

Zol and Ruubens rush, Shiro and Jolyne stay back.

Load our zook up with frags and start launching them into the formation.

Also, have Zol and Ruubens try to force the Saberfish into a tighter formation before we hit the Fish with the first bazooka round.

>>7493878
Effectively putting ourselves and a dodai out of action and separated from the rest of the group, easy pickings for hungry fighter-bombers.

Seriously, no impossible retardation. If it were jst retarded, I'd go for it. But this would be embarassing as hell for one of the best Zeon aces to just randomly jump off and crash to the ground.

Stay put, shoot hard. Fighters close, harassing from higher altitude when the feddies start an attack run. Garma and Hovis should stay put as long as possible, hold for now.

>>7493945
Ah, and adding one more thing: Shiro and Jolyne prioritize point-defense against missiles, then killing the Saberfish. They're best equipped for that job out of our squad, I think.

>>7493878

If this can work at all, even if the chance is slim, I say we go for it. If the answer to that is just a flat "no, not even if we do our 'Limiter Release' skill", then go with what I said in >>7493945 and >>7493964.

>>7493993
>Your suit is nowhere NEAR agile enough for this.

I'm pretty sure OP clarified this explicitly.

>>7493945
The Hidolfr is at least twice, maybe three times our size. Pulling that thing up would be impossible without a crane, and it's highly unlikely it would be good for the Gaw in motion. If we want it in the action, we're better off losing altitude and dropping it where it can start unloading frag shells in the air.

>>7493837

Dodai Picket line. Keep them away from the Gaws, and we handle any that get through.

Hidolfr/Garma are only to bail if the Gaw starts to take severe damage.

Gaws maintain present course and speed. Altitude changes aren't going to do much right now unless we start terrain-following. Which isn't happening.

>>7494043
look, we are ON TOP of the plane.

the enemy can attack from BELOW

lowering our altitude will limit their ability to shoot the shit out of us from angles that we can't return fire.

It will also minimize the time that the hilda and garma are floating targets during their paradrops, which is a pretty big deal.

we don't have to terrain follow, but getting down to 1-2 thousand feet above the ground will make it very difficult to get under us.

lower. altitude.

I still think we should sent the Dodais ahead to distract the enemies so we can get Garma off the Gaw. Sending him out if they are too close would be suicide since the would pretty obviously pick him off mid air, And if th Gaw makes it it can just land and pick us up again, But if it crashes with garma in it, well then it is Bye Bye promotion and "HELLO Gihren takeover".

>>7494035
Do that, then. But we jump to the other Gaw first and have it stay at high-enough altitude that we're still in the fight.

>>7494079
this is why we are dropping altitude.

That way if garma has to bail, he isn't sitting in a parachute for 13,000 (or whatever) feet of feddy target practice.


He should NOT bail until he has too, otherwise we will leave him behind for the federation to maul at their leisure.

>>7494092
the two gaws are the target of this feddy attack.
They have to be. The feddies aren't going to scramble three waves of attackers to take out some dopps or whatever.

The point is, wherever the gaws go, the fight will follow and we want to be as low as possible in case shit hits the fan and garma has to bail.

Can Garma's Zaku do a purely jet-assisted drop and survive?

If it can, get the Gaw he's in down to where he can do that. And have the Hildolfr do as much of a HALO drop as it's capable of without crashing.

>>7494074
>>7494135
This makes sense. Go with it.

>>7494135
We also might want to look into how it is that the Feddies seem to keep getting a hold of Garma's flight plan.

what are our chances of splitting the target. the are two gaws becous of the mass of our troops. if we could convince them that the gaw without garma in (Witch i think is ours) is the right one, then we might be able to pull the fire off, and safe this, since its proberbly still a long way to talk to new york.

>>7494171

Indeed. Aerial combat is not our strong point.

>>7494109

Ah, I see, So it is:

0) Keep riding the Gaw.
1) Lower the altitude.
2) Get cover from the Squad mates on the ground,
3) Drop Hilda.
4) Get Garma ready to bail if he needs to.
5) Everypone spams AA everywhere.

Oh, And speaking of squad mates, How is Zolomon doing?

>>7494171
We're probably the largest target for a thousand miles flying over disputed territory, it happens.

>>7494159
It should be able to, provided his skills are up to snuff. It's little more then a customized F type. The Hidolfr might require special equipment depending how high up we drop it from.

>>7494201
True enough. A full carrier battle group with Dopp escort is a massive and very tempting target in these times.

>>7494195
>3) Drop Hilda

no. We don't abandon our squadmates to their fate at the first sign of the enemy.

Both the hilda and garma stay in their gaw until it gets messed up. When/if that moment comes, they can both be out fairly quick and will at least have each other to cover on the way down.

if we drop anyone right now, our only options are to stop the whole show, fight a pitched battle, and then try to recover them (if we survive) before the feddies send more at us

or leave them behind.


I don't want to make that choice until I absolutely have too.

>>7494202
When he and the Hildolfr drop, have the Gaw try to provide cover as they fall. As in, it descends so as to stay between Garma and the Fish while he's dropping, especially if he has to take it slow.

Ask Hovis to try to start shooting down Fish while he's dropping, if it's possible.

>>7494201

The things you couples do for love...

>>7494202

We should be able to go prett low, It´s not like you can get into Garmas service without being good at what you do...

... Oh right, Shiro did.

>>7494267

he'll learn. the squad has such a high "awsom" quota that its bound to catch.

>>7494252

I just thought of something.

Could we get Garma onto a Dodai?

Also, have the engineers see if they can quickly jury-rig multiple Dodais together to provide a platform for the Hildolfr.

this is the plan:
0) Keep riding the Gaw.
1) Lower the altitude.
2) Send Dodais forward in screening action.
3) Get Garma/Hilda ready to bail if they need to.
4) Everypone spams AA everywhere.

>>7494252

The Hilda have a pretty sick range, Im not talking about abandoning it, Im talking about getting it to cover for us from a range.

Then again, Spliting up never works.

>>7494293
garma is stuck behind the hilda in the bay of the gaw. He isn't going anywhere until the hilda is out of the way.

. . . I think.

Also, I want to know where in the hell the Feddies are launching these planes from without us knowing about it. I mean, we basically control everything from the US-Canada border south at this point, and have for several months, so why are the Feddies still able to get planes all the way to Kansas without us noticing until they're right freaking on top of us?

Even given the high Minovsky density in North America, the Mark One Eyeball should still suffice to give raid warning when the raid target is hundreds of miles past the front lines.

>>7494293
Getting Garma his own Dodai would work. I doubt we have enough Dodais to carry the Hidolfr though, and welding them together seems like something better done when we're not several thousand feet in the air, and under fire by three squadrons of Fed fighters.

>>7494303
yeah

and if we continue to move towards new york in our gaws, we will quickly outpace the hilda. There's just no way a tank is keeping up with an airplane.

might make a good tactic for a defensive battle though, have a gaw circle and be a target and hilda sits in cover and blasts anything that gets close. But that's for another time.

>>7493927
>gaws drop altitude and maintain CLOSE formation.
>prep garma and the hildolfr for paradrop and have them on standby, ready to go at a moments notice.

>push dodai's forward to screen incoming heavy fighters and buy time for the gaws to complete the altitude maneuver.

>Lister stays atop his gaw mount, ready to defend it from anything that gets past the dodai screen.

>ask the captain for an update on how the first two waves of feddie's are faring, and if we can expect any of our allies back any time soon.

You order the Gaws to drop altitude and for the Dodai forces to move off and engage. Meanwhile you ask the Captain for the state of the fighters.

"The fighters are being bogged down, the fighters are outfitted for dogfighting, not taking down heavy stuff, and the Dopps are finding it hard going!"

The Gaws begin to drop altitude as the rest of your squad surges fowards to meet the heavy fighters.
At which point, your Gaw lurches as primitive flak begins to explode around you.
"Jesus! Enemy Triple AAA tanks on the ground! We have to regain altitude!"

In the distance you see your squad engage the Saberfish.

YOUR ORDERS?

Can the Hilda shoot at things outside the Gaw if the bay doors are open?

>>7494411
>flak
This why low altitude fails.

Reveal to Garma that we're actually a double agent. Shoot his GAW out of the air.

>>7494411

Jump off and engage those AA tanks, Use the 880mm if we have to. Just get rid of them. NOW.

>>7494411
oh

damn it.

well, regain altitude and hope our squad can save our bacon. We're out of options now. That flak will tear the gaws apart and there's nothing we can really do about it. Gotta get out of range.

>>7494411
Well, that backfired. We may have to abandon the Gaws after all.

Start shelling said tanks if we have visual, and begin preparations to drop Garma and Hilda if we have to.

>>7494411

i'd bet there's support units on the ground for those AAAs, if we are going to hit the dirt, best be ready to repel a tank rush.

>>7494411

Bloody AA. Goddamnit, did we /actually/ secure this blasted territory, or are Zeon just playing a giant game of pretend?

Exactly how far is it to New York from where we are?

Let's take Hovis and Garma and kill some tanks.

how silly of me to assume there wouldn't be federation land forces miles behind our lines that nobody knows about, conveniently located along our flight path, at the precise time we decide to travel . . .

>>7494411
We drop first and kill those fucking tanks. Tell Zol and Ruubens to do Saberfish herding while Jolyne and Shiro blow them to bits.

And get the Hildolfr out post-haste. We desperately need the fire-support, and getting Garma onto his own Dodai afterwards will be an added bonus.

>>7494514
this.

It's time to leave the gaws to their fate, and we can't be having the federation thinking it can just camp out in zeons back yard whenever it wants. Time to put our boots in the mud and teach some lessons.

>>7494471

Infact do this, Fire the 880mm while falling Have Hilda and Garma bail while doing so. Where the hell is Zolomon? grond troops is what he is specced for so he should get his ass here and help.

>>7494512
Hence my theory that Zeon really needs to stop attacking and consolidate its gains.

Have the Hilda drop while it's still near the ground. It'll be extremely useful in eliminating the AA Tanks. Get Garma to the back of the Gaw, ready to drop. Have him support from inside of it. Keep the Gaws and our Dodais firing at concentrations of enemies, breaking them up. Anyone not on a Dodai or on the Ground should be supporting us. Where are our Dopps?

>>7494545
Zolomon is, IIRC, currently busy trying to keep our ride from getting torn to shreds by Saberfish.

has zeon performed NO mopping up ops? i can understand fighters, but flack? i thought we had pushed them to canada, and despite my hazy knolage of US gegrophy, i think new york is further down the coast then new england...unless its a part. guess i get to find out...

we should add mopping up to our paper.

>>7494512
roughly 1,500 miles, depending on what part of kansas we're currently over.

>>7494557
Dopps are engaging two full squads of Fly Mantas.

And you know what?

Have the Gaw land, as hard and fast as possible without cracking up.

>>7494609
That'll put it on the ground. Even if it doesn't break up, it'll be a reeeal easy target.

is it just me, or is the thread autosageing?

>>7494577

Well, the Dom certainly isn't walking to NY if we have to bail.

Screw it. Us and the Hildoflr drop, and take out the ground forces. Everyone else gets the hell out of dodge all the way to NY. We can have someone do a pickup on us later. Even if the Hildolfr has a low operating range, Doms can go a fair while IIRC.

>>7494622
It's ALREADY a really easy target. If we stay low, the Triple-A shoots it down. If we climb again, the Fish can try for it, and the Triple-A has a much easier time killing the Hildolfr or Garma if they have to bail.

At this point, first priority is getting the Hildolfr and then Garma out of the Gaw as fast as possible, because we desperately need the fire support. The Gaw's survival is secondary now.

>>7494638
Ity's probably just you.

Drop the Hilda, we go down with it to take out that Feddie Ack-Ack. And about getting to NY? Once all the enemies are dead or captured, it'll be safe for the Gaws to land and pick us up.

>>7494423
>Reveal to Garma that we're actually a double agent. Shoot his GAW out of the air.


BAD MOUSE! BAD!

>>7494469
>Can the Hilda shoot at things outside the Gaw if the bay doors are open?

Not with any accuracy, it could shoot out the back without damaging the Gaw, but it's unlikely to hit anything. Nor will it be able to safely paradrop out with all that flack in the air.
Garma's Zaku might survive a HALO drop though.

>>7494515
>how silly of me to assume there wouldn't be federation land forces miles behind our lines that nobody knows about, conveniently located along our flight path, at the precise time we decide to travel . . .

It DOES make one suspicious doesn't it?

>Exactly how far is it to New York from where we are?

You are in Kansas. Which if you remember, isn't that far from Iowa, where all of those hidden airfields that you ganked back in April were.

You can probably supress the ground AA if you wanted by jumping off, getting yourself back on the Gaw might be a little bit problematic though. These things can't exactly land in a field.

YOUR ORDERS?

>>7494680
Also, as long as one of the Gaws stays alive our Dom and the Hildolfr can ride in that while the suits that don't fit stay on Dodais. Just keep rotating the suits and Dodais in and out so that everyone gets some rest, and both Dave and Hovis take somebody else's suit out if needs be so that we aren't just chilling while the rest of the squad works.

I am starting to get quite sick of these federation forces turning up in what is allegedly our territory. Garma's first task when he's a bit more awesome is to yell at those generals to do their fucking jobs and mop up these damn feddies.

>>7494689
Jump off, Supress AA Fire with 880mm bazooka, while in the air. Try get into melee range.

>>7494689 Mine are >>7494557

If we keep the Gaw in the air, there's a far greater chance of survival. Just keep those Fish on guard. Don't let them make too many passes. Scare the fuckers away from the back. if we lose a Gaw, we're either walking, or waiting for backup. If this is part of a Feddie push, we could be in trouble.

>>7494689
how about we call up our ol' pal RINGO and have him break off his engagement to circle back and RAMBO STYLE those annoying AA tanks.

We all know how he loves tanks. If we stay on our gaw we should be able to make up for his absence.
Also, since he has a dodai that he can ditch safely before he gets stuck in, he'll be able to catch back up with us after he finishes the AA off.

>>7494689
Were any of those hidden airfields put back into service by us? If anybody knows that one, it should be Garma.

If the answer is "yes", then the Gaws make for that once we're out. Given our Dom's ground speed, we can make it to Iowa in about two to three hours, and less if we release the limiters a bit.

>>7494725
This. Once the AA is cleared, or at least lessened, drop the Hilda to help mop up.

>>7494739
Given that we're hundreds of miles south of where the front lines are supposed to be, I think we'd have heard something if a Feddie push had reached Kansas.

>>7494770
Pretty sure Doms only have fuel for an hours worth of hovering. After that, it's on foot.

>>7494689

Well, i'm on the other side of the world from UnitedStatesia, so I don't know their geography all that well.

Regardless - I think we should just bypass the AA altogether and raise alititude. Errant fighters are probably easier to handle than a wall of flak.

>>7494689
Thinking some more, have the Gaws run for Topeka or Kansas City instead. There should be at least one field capable of taking them there.

>>7494794
>>7494809

In that case, definitely have the Gaws make for Topeka or Kansas City. Those we could make in less than an hour's travel using our jets.

Also, Radio Zolomon to check how he is doing, if the Minovsky interferance is to high, Try using Newtype Magic to reach him.

Im a bit worried since he is in a Ground combat Melee suit against Long range MA.

>>7494764cont'

while ringo deals with the AA, have the gaws raise altitude.

Question, are we riding the gaw that Garma and the Hilda are in?
If so, have the other, empty gaw fly underneath us to block our belly from attack.

If not, have our gaw fly above the gaw that garma is in, so we can protect it from above.

>>7494839
We're having him rush them and use his 35mm triple-barreled Gatling to knock them out of the sky. Also, he's forcing them to fly in a tighter formation, making it easier for Jolyne and Shiro to hack them down.

>>7494839
Don't forget, this is Ringo Zolomon, the man who took out 5 Flymantas with a single trow of his Heat Hawk. He'll be fine.

>>7494724
Fucking this. If we're going to create GARma he needs the generals working for him without the slightest belief they can control him.

On the future Newtype shenanigans front, I just noticed that according to the TL the Flanagan Institute should be starting up about now. Wonder if we'll run into Kycilia's little project at some point?

>>7494716

You opt to take out enemy AA tanks, maybe the airfield as well if it's down there. As you move to jump off, your Gaw suddenly opens fire with with it's close range AA guns upwards.

"It's an ambush! 11 enemy fighters coming in from the clouds! One is a minovsky spreader! Looks like 5 heavy fighters and 5 Fighter/Bombers! Remainders of the squadrons already engaged most likely!"

Cant go up, can't go down. WHAT NOW?

>>7494848
>>7494848
>>7494848

this

>>7494894
Should we have him attack the Laws of Physics again to let the Hildolfr do a high-speed drop without splattering all over the landscape?

>>7494894
Yes, But he lost the Heat Hawk after that, and this seems far more then 20 enemies, So he might need a weapon if he already threw what he had when he sortied away.

>>7494948
Abandon Gaw! Abandon Gaw!

Get everyone on the ground, aim the Gaws at some big feddie unit and get the crew out.

Once we next see the generals Garma better be fucking furious.

>>7494948

do
>>7494764
>>7494848

have the gaws engage the new fighters along with ourselves as we gain altitude.

inform garma and the hilda that the time to bail may be soon, but to wait for our word. Apparently fate is intent on thwarting our every tricky plan, so it's time to nut up and break shit.

>>7494948
Focus on getting rid on the AA for now, we have already jumped so it is too late to go back, Announce the Ambush to the entire squad. Get Garma to Bail...

>>7494948

cant go over it, cant go under it, cant go around it, have to go through it

by witch i mean, it looks like for all our best efforts, we have a fight on our hands. see if we can deal with the squadren that just came from the clouds to give us some virtcal room. are there any zeon bases me might be able to contact for suport?

>>7494948
put it bluntly - we need to start killing things en mass, fill the air with our zook exsplosions. get a sitrep from the rest of the squad, get them on the heavier fighters and/or the new ambushers

>>7494948
Land the Gaw. Now. Otherwise it's just going to get shot out of the air. And there's no way we can get the Hildolfr and Garma out right now without the flak chewing them to bits.

If necessary, we can still make it to New York in one Gaw by doing what I suggested a few posts back.

Tell everyone to brace for a hard landing, and have Hovis be ready to get the Hildolfr out the moment we're down.

Meanwhile, we need to take down that squadron. Get a bazooka round off at them, switch to MG when they get close. And use our Limiter Release skill so that if needs be we can jump from the Gaw to those attacking planes, nail at least one or two of them (Heat Saber might be good for that if we're close enough) and then hit the ground as fast as we can survive and walk away from in fighting condition.

>>7494997
no

and

>>7495008
>As you move to jump off

this means that we were going to jump off, but something else happened. We haven't jumped yet. And we aren't going too. Not yet anyway.

Gain altitude, shoot the ambushers down, protect the gaw from the AA and continue on to new york.

You lads should keep your heads. We're in a dom, these 11 ambushers are facing a prototype unit the Federation hasn't even seen yet. Once we down a few the rest should "realize" that this intel is worth more than their lives and run.

Continue jumping off to supress the ack ack. Get the Gaw as low as possible once the AAA is supressed so that Hovis and Garma can bail.

When that's done start making for the nearest friendly city.

Have the rest of the squad reconnoiter there.

>>7495064
Yeah, on the flipside we'd probably prefer to avoid giving them that bit of intel.

>>7494948

Start shooting them. Of course.

Have our Gaw move to cover Garma's, and have him and the Hildolfr ready for an emergency disembark.

/If/ the Gaws take heavy damage, the lot of us bail and go to grond, staying mobile. We then wait for our air forces to force the fighters to retreat and then link up together.

Would it be safe to assume that we've been attempting to call for reinforcements the whole time?

>>7495109
they're already on top of us. The cat is out of the bag already, as they say.

Guess we just have to kill 'em all, right?

>>7495166

I hope so, because they should be finished by now...

You know, Garma REALLY should chew those Generals out, I mean, Sure we are Acepilots, But this is pretty much a Zergrush against us, At this rate loss is inevitable. all becuse the couldn´t be bothered to clean up after themselves.

>>7495096
best to stick together still. No need to have everyone bail out and completely abandon the plan to get to new york and divert our entire force to some out of the way airstrip where we can be attacked again. You know, since this clearly isn't friendly territory and all.

Remember, at this point nobody has even taken damage. Let's just keep our heads and start shooting things out of the sky.

>>7495166
Between the generally high Minovsky density caused by our trip to Panama and the Minovsky generators the Feddies brought with them, I'm figuring that our calls aren't getting very far.

>have the gaws engage the new fighters along with ourselves as we gain altitude.

>inform garma and the hilda that the time to bail may be soon, but to wait for our word. >Apparently fate is intent on thwarting our every tricky plan, so it's time to nut up and break shit.

You swing your Zook upwards and fire at the diving planes. You manage to strike one of the divebombing Fly Mantas head on, and the large blast engulfs two more of the planes in a single blow. Bullets and missiles craze around you scoring deep rents in the Gaw you are piloting. Luckily they seem to be concentrating on your empty Gaw as opposed to Garma's.
Probably because there's a giant mobile suit with a ginormous bazooka on it, shooting at them for great effect.
Your second shot goes wide, but does force several Saberfish off their attack line.

The Gaws guns manage to kill a couple more Fly Mantas. This takes care of them, but you've still got the Saber Fish to worry about.

KILLS: 3 Fly Manta's

I'm going to archive this now and start a new thread because I think were autosaging.

>>7495227
Did someone just say kill them all? Because, I think I heard someone say kill them all...

Thread up and archived.

Second thread here: >>7495394