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The smell of fresh coffee snaps you back to reality, as it always does. Your mind slows down and you focus on the hear and now, tapping your long nails lightly on the counter as you pour yourself a cup of coffee, add a dollop of milk, and walk back down the hall to your desk to prepare for the day's work. Your job is to speculate on contracts of indentured servitude which, in some instances, will default into slavery. Slaves being vastly more valuable to own than contracts of indentured servitude there is a constant flurry of exchanges of contracts, rights, speculation, investment, and debt associated with said contracts as there is with just about any commodity that is bought and sold.

You are exceedingly talented at investing in these contracts and make a great deal of money for your firm, which is quite ironic given that you are the daughter of a slave and an indentured servant yourself. At the age of sixteen though you had limited choices: you could have either worked in the same brothel your mother was owned by at the time, or you could have taken on a contract as an indentured laborer. Having been endowed with a keen mind and an obsession with understanding the ins and outs of slavery and the market for such contracts you decided against working as a painted whore and opted to go to work for a small contract exchange which you have been working at for two years. Of course all of that is about to change: the market is abuzz with the news of a new imported love philtre that has vastly undercut the domestic market for such potions, which were expected to skyrocket in price given local shortages.
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Very few traders were savvy enough to bet against the market, but you were one of them. Simultaneously you also purchased contracts of indentured servitude belonging to workers in that industry with less than six months left to them for virtually nothing. It was rather difficult to find contracts within your price range that included a clause resulting in automatic default in the event that the indentured was unable to pay due to a decline in the value of their wages. You were only able to purchase five such contracts, though you got them at a discount.

Of course you had to borrow a considerable sum of money in order to do this, which put you at risk of slavery yourself. As of an hour ago when shops opened the price of Love Philtres collapsed, you cashed out your investments at a large profit, and the contracts in your possession signed to your name became the Title to five slaves who probably don't even realize that they are property yet.

In the span of a handful of trades you went from an indentured laborer in danger of being made a slave to an independent slave owner.

As you reach the comfort of the big oak desk in your office you try to focus on the here and now. One foot in front of the other. One step at a time. You sit down at the desk and pull out your personal ledger, still having several minutes before the work day officially begins. After collected the profit from your investment you tallied your liabilities, assets, and cash on hand. Presently your balance reads as follows:
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You quest guys stopped trying a long time ago, huh?
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>Coins: 60 Gold Florins, 157 Silver Denari, 12 Copper Lon
>Market Leverage (liability): 100 Gold Florins owed, 3% monthly interest rate, compounds monthly, default results in general bankruptcy
>Contract of Indenture (liability): 50 Gold Florins still owed, 10% annual interest rate, compounds annually, default results in slavery, general bankruptcy results in default
>Contracts for Five Slaves: Purchased at a depreciated price of 10 Gold apiece, which was a pittance given the relative value of slaves at market or when contracted as labor by their owner

A low-ball estimate of the value of your slaves is 50 Gold Florins apiece, but given that they are former skilled laborers and that two of them are attractive young females you would guess that their value at market would be much, much higher. Of course you needn't sell them immediately, but you have a debt that ought to be paid immediately in order to avoid slavery, which has been the most pressing fear in your life. Fortunately you have the Gold on your person to pay it off immediately. You also have a sick day that you can take without penalty.

Decisions, decisions, you hold the leash!
>Pay off your indentured servitude contract right now
>Inform your employer that you are feeling ill and need the day off, go pick up your slaves and determine your next move
>Say nothing, work as though everything were normal
>Mistress's choice
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Holy shit what is this
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>>31046185
>>Pay off your indentured servitude contract right now
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>>31046209

Economics Quest hiding behind fetishistic slavery.
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>>31046185
>Inform your employer that you are feeling ill and need the day off, go pick up your slaves and determine your next move
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>>31046185
>Pay off your indentured servitude contract right now
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>>31046185
>Pay off your indentured servitude contract right now
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>>31046209

It would appear to be a quest based around a simple subversion of the old "elf slave, wat do?" bullshit.

Assuming the MC is an elf, this is Elf Slaver, Wat Do? Quest.

>>31046185
>Pay off the contract. We're done with this bullshit.

See if we can stay on as a regular employee? We're obviously talented, and we don't really want to burn bridges here.
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>>31046185
Tough decision.

On one hand, the 100 gold loan will hurt us much more than the 50 gold loan due to the markedly higher interest, and paying that off first is much economically sound. On the other hand, the consequences of the 50 gold loan going sour are much, much worse.

I will abstain my vote.
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>>31046185

Pay off the indentured servitude contract now. Attempt to negotiate a salary or commission schedule to stay on as a free employee, no need to burn bridges.
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>>31046241
>Economics Quest hiding behind fetishistic slavery.
Oh god, is this like Brothel Quest then? That'd be amazing. I miss it.
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>>31046241

Is there a chance we can organize our workers into a trading office and skip the /d/-lite?
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You decide that it would be a good idea to go ahead an pay off your Contract of Indenture before you do anything else. Quietly you gather up two years worth of personal effects and make your way to the owner's office and inform his secretary that you needed to speak with him regarding your employment there. She gives you a look of pity before knocking on his door and poking her head inside. After a moment she waves you in, and you make your way inside of your boss's office. Behind a small mountain of paperwork sits a grey-haired human male with more hair on his face than on his head. He peers at you from behind his spectacles gravely, before gesturing to a chair in front of his desk. As you sit down he clears his throat.

"My secretary informs me that you are here to discuss your employment here. I sincerely hope that you aren't here to break any sort of bad news..."

You hold the leash!
>Give him the money to repay the debt for your education and apprenticeship as a Slave Trader and politely inform him that you are going into business for yourself
>Give him the money and ask him about seeking employment there as a free woman
>Give him the money and ask if there will be positions open here in the near future, as you are weighing your options right now but value your employment here
>Mistress's choice
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>>31046559

>Give him the money and ask if there will be positions open here in the near future, as you are weighing your options right now but value your employment here

Let's see what he can offer us.
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>>31046559
>Give him the money and ask if there will be positions open here in the near future, as you are weighing your options right now but value your employment here
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>>31046559
>Give him the money and ask if there will be positions open here in the near future, as you are weighing your options right now but value your employment here
CAPITALISM, HO!
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>>31046559
>Give him the money to repay the debt for your education and apprenticeship as a Slave Trader and politely inform him that you are going into business for yourself
What exactly is the Mistress's choice?
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Rolled 94

>>31046657
Write in i believe.
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>>31046657

Free option.

>>31046527

People come for the slave girls but generally stay for the economics.
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>>31046657
Writein, doofus.
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>>31046559
>Give him the money and ask if there will be positions open here in the near future, as you are weighing your options right now but value your employment here
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>>31046364
>On the other hand, the consequences of the 50 gold loan going sour are much, much worse.

>Market Leverage (liability): [...] default results in general bankruptcy
>Contract of Indenture (liability): [...] default results in slavery, general bankruptcy results in default

Defaulting on the 100 gold loan automatically means defaulting on the second. More economically sound to handle that one first, but from a psychological standpoint wanting to get the yoke off of your neck ASAP is perfectly understandable.

>>31046559
>Give him the money and ask if there will be positions open here in the near future, as you are weighing your options right now but value your employment here
The implication of this is that we are perfectly willing to open a private practice, but are willing to negotiate. Probably gets us a better deal than just outright asking about continuing our current employment.

>>31046132
How was our relationship with our mother, and/or how well is she treated under her current contract? Kind of curious as to whether or not we're the sort that is going to want to buy out her contract ASAP or if it's not a primary concern.
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>>31046690

>How was our relationship with our mother, and/or how well is she treated under her current contract?

She was a captive of war abroad taken as a prize and sold at market here. She was sold by her old brothel and you have no idea where she might have gone or if she was resold from there.

You didn't know her particularly well. The children of slaves are born free but typically lack means outside of indentured labor, which inherently risks slavery.
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>>31046690
>Defaulting on the 100 gold loan automatically means defaulting on the second.
Yes, but assuming we pay off the second the slavery clause contingent on bankruptcy is gone, thus the consequences of such bankruptcy won't be as bad. Though it's a moot point now that the ship has sailed.
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>>31046690

Most anons are operating under the assumption that as a free trader we'll make more money than we will as an indentured servant, and trying to run a side business while under servitude is going to net weaker returns than devoting ourselves wholly to either.
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>>31046559
>Give him the money and ask if there will be positions open here in the near future, as you are weighing your options right now but value your employment here
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"Not bad news, no. Quite the contrary, I would like to pay off my Contract of Indenture right here and now. The amount is fifty gold florins at the moment, correct?"

He looks rather shocked, and moves to check his ledgers, but recalls that you generally have the numbers more accurately figured in your head than most do in their ledgers, especially when it comes to your own contract.

"You have the money here now? Payment in coin is mandated in the terms of the contract."

Reaching into your purse you draw out the fifty coins, already set aside, and set them on the table in front of him.

"Counted and weighed sir. Also while we are discussing this I would like to inquire about openings for free individuals working here. I am presently weighing my options with regard to my economic future, but I value my time here greatly and would be open to negotiating a contract of employment under the condition of a free individual in the near future."

It takes him a moment to take all of this in, but a veteran of the market he is quick to recover.

"Of course. We would be prepared to pay more highly for a trader of your caliber working as a free individual, though I am not certain what we could afford in terms of wages at this time."

He reaches out to rake in the gold, and you smile prettily at him.

"Can I get a receipt for that, and could we bring in the notary now rather than later?"

>-50 Gold

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As you leave the exchange there is an extra swing in your step, which of course leads to Carl from accounting staring at you as you walk by. Carl from accounting stares at you a lot when he thinks you aren't looking, but today you don't even mind. The sun is still low in the sky, and as a free woman you have options!

You hold the leash!
>Go collect and inspect your unwitting slaves from their jobs, might as well get them branded
>Go to the exchanges and observe the markets
>Go to the tavern and do market research
>Mistress's choice
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>>31047049
>>Go collect and inspect your unwitting slaves from their jobs, might as well get them branded
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>>31047049
>Collect dem slaves
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>>31047049
>Go collect and inspect your unwitting slaves from their jobs, might as well get them branded
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>>31047049

>Go to the exchanges and observe the markets.
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>>31047049
>Go collect and inspect your unwitting slaves from their jobs, might as well get them branded
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>>31047049
>>Go collect and inspect your unwitting slaves from their jobs, might as well get them branded
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>>31047049
>>Go collect and inspect your unwitting slaves from their jobs, might as well get them branded
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>>31047049
>Branded
Oh we're going to crush the lives of 5 people for capitalism.. this gonna feel good.
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>>31047049
So I guess the slaves wages are down and they've already defaulted, then?

'Cause I think the default needs to happen before body mods do.
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After inspecting your contracts again, double checking relevant clauses, and triple checking the price of Love Philtres and the structuring of the Indentured's wages, you inform a walking constable that you are proceeding on your way to collect several fresh slaves and show him the paperwork, so he accompanies you on the two block walk to execute the collection and ensure that everything is done lawfully.

You make your way to a local factory, and after asking to speak to the owner regarding matters of contract you and the constable are led upstairs to meet with him. The fellow is a somewhat heavy set human, and he seems rather broken up about the depression of the Love Philtre market, so he is hardly phased when you explain why you are there and who you have come to collect. He merely nods and informs an overseer to round up the servants listed in the notarized paperwork. The man's fortunes are probably ruined, so losing a few workers shouldn't phase him.

As you watch the overseers collect your slaves while the constable observes you refresh yourself on the notes that you have collected thus far, matching your research with what you observe.

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>>31047315
Their contracts are set up with auto-slavery clauses if their wages ever bottom out to low. They risked it with their indentured servitude contracts, and the market for their occupation just crashed. Therefore, slaves, and we're the current contract holders.
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>>31047356
Fair enough. Onward!
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>>31047260
>MC watches the branding
>thinks about all those delicious profits to be made
>starts dripping
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>>31047323
>setting in which slavery is commonplace
>Love potions ever failing

What, you're telling me they LIKE being slaves?
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>>31047412
Not failing, going from being 50g a pop due to how hard it is to make them, to 2c a pop because someone found a work around.
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>>31047412
see >>31046132
>the market is abuzz with the news of a new imported love philtre that has vastly undercut the domestic market for such potions, which were expected to skyrocket in price given local shortages.
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>>31047356
True, and this is definitely a market where people must be wary of what's hidden in their contracts. But we did specifically go after contracts that only had 6 months left. They could have been free and clear in just 6 months.
Though since their contract stipulated auto-enslavement, I suppose it could have been worse; a brothel might have picked up their contract.
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Can we get an info dump of the rights of slaves and indentured servants?
There have been many different styles of slavery practiced through history, and I'd like to make sure we're all on the same page regarding what we can and can't do to our slaves, and what legal recourse we have if someone we rent our slaves to damages them.
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>>31047432
So what happened was, an alchemist Player Character has appeared in a distant land and worked with his Wizard PC friend to make and distribute love potions for profit.
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>Cassandra
>Healthy female, appears to be human with some elvish ancestry, age is 19
>General Info: A factory Enchantress, and a very pretty one at that. Normally a beautiful young woman's contract is rated as having a higher premium when sold on the market than most due to her value in a brothel, but a factory Enchantress makes enough money that the notion that she would be forced to default on her loan due to a collapse in wages was nigh unthinkable. However the debt that she incurred in order to pay for the training and the subsequent percentage of what she made taken off the top left her in a more vulnerable position than might have been anticipated.
>Contract Purchased at: 14 Gold Florins
>Your low-end price estimate at auction (without up to minute research): 80 Gold Florins
>Top Employment possibilities and wages: Brothel-100 silvers an hour plus tip (split down middle with brothel), Custom Design Enchantress- variable (the market fluctuates and pays based on commission), Factory Enchantress- 50 silvers hourly* (currently a price crash, value is lower)

>Valyria
>Healthy female,human slave, aged 20
>General Info: A craftswoman who works blowing glass and doing detailed fine-metal work packaging Love Philtres. Moderately pretty. She was closest to maintaining a stable wage in spite of the price collapse, but it fell below the required margin for automatic default.
>Contract Purchased at: 11 Gold Florins
>Your low-end price estimate at auction (without up to minute research): 60 Gold Florins
>Top Employment possibilities and wages: Brothel- 80 silvers an hour plus tip (split down middle with brothel), Factory grade craft work- 22 silvers hourly (Market okay), High end Craft work- average 35 silvers hourly at project rates (Commission based)

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Is our MC a brown half-elf?
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>>31047709
>brown half-elf

you wouldn't want a dealer more valuable than the product they are selling.
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>Etrius
>Healthy male,human slave, aged 24
>General Info: A factory worker who bottles the potions and assists with glasswork. Fair appearance, in good shape.
>Contract Purchased at: 8 Gold Florins
>Your low-end price estimate at auction (without up to minute research): 40 Gold Florins
>Top Employment possibilities and wages: Heavy manual labor- 15 silver hourly (Market good), Factory grade craft work- 22 silver hourly (Market Okay), High end Glass work- 25 Silver Hourly (Commission based)

>Dalt
>Healthy male, human slave, age 19
>General Info: Packages boxes and hauls them to and from the market, apprentice level smith. In excellent shape
>Contract Purchased at: 9 Gold Florins
>Your low-end price estimate at auction (without up to minute research): 50 Gold Florins
>Top Employment possibilities and wages: Heavy manual labor- 15 silver hourly (Market good), Apprentice level smithing- 12 silver hourly (Market Very Good)

>Sven
>Healthy male, human slave, age 21
>General info: Line worker, does retouches of metal. In good shape.
>Contract Purchased at: 8 Gold Florins
>Your low-end price estimate at auction (without up to minute research): 40 Gold Florins
>Top Employment possibilities and wages: Heavy manual labor- 15 silver hourly (Market good), Factory grade craft work- 20 silver hourly (Market mediocre), Detail metal work- 25 Silver hourly (Commission based)

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I normally hate quests, but this kinky economic shit is making me rock hard.
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>fyi, 100 coppers is 1 silver, 1,000 silvers is 1 gold

You watch carefully as the employees are rounded up and brought to you for inspection. After a quick review of your valuation estimates (rather expert if you say so yourself) you request that the constable assist you in chaining the slaves up and marching them to market, as per his duties to the slave-owning citizenry of this city. As your property is lined up you consider how to approach this.

You hold the leash!
>Inform them of their new status immediately even though they may be upset and argue on the spot
>Have the constable tell them that they are being into custody as per some legal article or other so as to keep them at ease up until you have them branded so as to avoid any struggle
>Mistress's choice
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>>31047986
>Have the constable tell them that they are being into custody as per some legal article or other so as to keep them at ease up until you have them branded so as to avoid any struggle
Lewd, but I like it.
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>>31047986

>Tell them now, get it over with.
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>>31047986
>>Inform them of their new status immediately even though they may be upset and argue on the spot

Might as well break the news to them now.
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>>31047986
>Inform them of their new status immediately even though they may be upset and argue on the spot

There's literally no point in not doing so.
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Rolled 19

>>31047986
>>Inform them of their new status immediately even though they may be upset and argue on the spot
we are so going to get our girls to nibble each others ears and ruffle each others hair while naked an in chains for our entertainment
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>>31047986
>>Have the constable tell them that they are being into custody as per some legal article or other so as to keep them at ease up until you have them branded so as to avoid any struggle
I assume we'll have some way to enforce obedience once they're branded?
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>>31047986
>>Have the constable tell them that they are being into custody as per some legal article or other so as to keep them at ease up until you have them branded so as to avoid any struggle

As tempting as the brothels are, These girls have some skill in their trade, we should use the brothels as a threat but have them worked hard in their trade.
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>>31047986
We only brought one constable for five people, two of which are in heavy manual labor.
>Have the constable tell them that they are being into custody as per some legal article or other so as to keep them at ease up until you have them branded so as to avoid any struggle

Play it safe, inform them after the fact, and make sure that we stay on their good side, after all, a happy slave is an efficient slave.
I'm tempted to say to sell the two oldest men right off the bat after we get them branded just so we can pay off our other debt. Would leave us with only silvers, but no debt hanging over us at all.
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>>31048029
>we are so going to get our girls to nibble each others ears and ruffle each others hair while naked an in chains for our entertainment
And then we're going to join in.
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>>31047709
the real question is, did the MC's cherry popped yet?

it won't matter either way, this is a shikels quest.
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>Inform them of their new status immediately even though they may be upset and argue on the spot

TIME IS MONEY
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>>31048038

Brands are enchanted to increase obedience, and also reduce the likelihood of successfully escaping because they are evident and runaways are hunted by the authorities.
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>>31048050
Brothels are pretty bad once you consider you need to split the earnings.
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>>31047986
>>Have the constable tell them that they are being into custody as per some legal article or other so as to keep them at ease up until you have them branded so as to avoid any struggle
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>>31047986
>Inform them of their new status immediately even though they may be upset and argue on the spot

Argue? I'm sure they'll just LOVE working for us.
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>>31048059
i will now read the QM's name as Shekels of fate.
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>>31048129
But for the girls, that might make an effective threat in terms if their pure or fear violation.
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>>31047986
>Inform them of their new status immediately even though they may be upset and argue on the spot
We seem to be an honest, pragmatic capitalist.
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>>31048129
They're slightly higher earning than normal labor (tips), but much worse in terms of care of the slave. I imagine it would decrease her value over time.

Still serves as a good threat.
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The decision is tough, but you opt to immediately inform them of their new status immediately as the constable pulls out his shackles.

"Due to clauses regarding wages built into your contracts, you are found to be in automatic default of payment regarding your Contracts of Indenture. As such you are being remanded into my custody as property, from here you will be brought for immediate branding by the good constable here with me now."

>Here it comes... roll 5d20 for me
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Rolled 5, 7, 20, 10, 20 = 62

>>31048302
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Rolled 3, 15, 3, 19, 9 = 49

>>31048302
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Rolled 18, 17, 4, 3, 16 = 58

>>31048302
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Forgot pic.
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Rolled 5, 19, 14, 10, 6 = 54

>>31048302
We could have been a bit more polite about it, added in a 'but hey, I was almost a slave and born from one, I'll treat you right.'
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>>31048050
Yeah, really we have some actually skilled people under our ownership, we should take advantage of that. We should try to have them "like" us or in the very least show them that other less morally inclined owners would have put them into a brothel because it is fast an easy. Might leave them more inclined to stay with us.
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Rolled 18, 17, 8, 7, 10 = 60

>>31048302
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Rolled 14, 1, 1, 5, 7 = 28

>>31048302
oh geez
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Rolled 4, 18, 6, 16, 5 = 49

>>31048302
i sure hope we know how to defend ourselves.
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But.. but.. Hey!
What kinda wacky social construct functions this way? Roll their contracts over into a long-term indenture at rates that would allow them to eventually work free while providing us with great profit from their hard willing work the whole while!

It's only reasonable.
Slaves only work enough to be fed, Indentures work and strive and have hopes, hopes that can wring money from them.

Ardarvia Disapproves, by the way.
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>>31048331
We don't want to lie, anon.
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We should hang on to the enchanter as long as we can. Once the market recovers from the crash, she'll only go up.

The glassblowers might not be worth keeping around--a good artisan can be worth quite a bit with the right connections, but those are connections we simply do not have. We could have them make some ornamental jewelry, put them on the enchanter, and parade her through a wealthier district though--the ladies will demand to know where she got it from, and that commission work is ours.

The men are....somewhat useful as general labor or as body guards. They have some trade skill, so that will boost their price a bit and give us some breathing room to work with while we get the cash cow started.
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Trolling evolved: "Elf slave wat do" the quest
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>It was rather difficult to find contracts within your price range that included a clause resulting in automatic default in the event that the indentured was unable to pay due to a decline in the value of their wages.

Interestingly, this seems to be a bit of a 'gotcha' option in their contracts, not accounting for the possibility of using accumulated savings to continue payments while transferring to another, better-paying job.

For all we know, some of our new acquisitions could actually have savings capable of buying out their contracts (if maybe only partially), and were keeping them in reserve because it was almost unthinkable that they'd find themselves defaulting within their six remaining months of employment.
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>>31048370
It is a slaver quest, but we'll see how it turns out. It's easy to be good and a capitalist at the same time.
Hello again little Prey, doing well with classes and the job situation I hope?
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>>31048388
Why should we be lying the five together more than pay themselves off just doing their regular work.

No reason to act like a dick to our workforce when it gets us nothing.
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Personally, I think we should offer the slaves easier or less objectionable work on the condition that they are obedient.
We won't have quite as high a profit margin, but there's value in having slaves who are willingly obedient and know that there are worse things they could be doing.
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>>31048388
It's not a lie. Treating them harshly hurts our profits, and the brothel is honestly not that great due to the 50-50 split so the girls have nothing to worry about there.
>>31048399
It happened before. Was more dryad than elf, though.
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>>31048370
Yeah, sound a lot better.
We could even give them the opportunity to go to a trade school or some thing to increase their skill, which in turn lets them find better work, which in turn allows them to get paid more, which means more money for us, and them being even more skilled raises their value.

Also we of course will add any expenses we had to pay during their training to their already existing debt. But you know to make money you have to spend it as well.
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Two of the men immediately bolt but are brought down by the Constable's sling and immediately shackled. The third fellow, Sven, seems so shocked that he doesn't even know how to respond to what is happening. Cassandra immediately bursts into tears and makes a scene: crying, pleading, trying to negotiate, flinging insults, really ugly, and it takes ten minutes to get her into shackles as she resists passively. Valyria the glassblower merely seems to be too numb and in shock to do anything and meekly allows herself to be shackled and follows the others.

With your property in tow you make your way to the nearest branding and registration office.

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The fellow at the counter smiles in greeting as you enter, slaves in tow.

"Why hello there my dear, I don't believe that we have met. I am Mister Aradieu, and this is my humble branding parlor as well as a licensed and operating registry of current ownership. What can I do for you today?"

"Hello Aradieu, I am Miss Dominique and I have with me today five new slaves who require branding and registration."

"Oh, I see. Do you have a particular mark on register?"

"I do not."

"Ah, I always love designing brands for new customers! For the company of a lovely lady such as yourself I will do the designing for free, though I must charge for the branding unfortunately."

"I understand. I am told you issue brands of very high quality."

"I do indeed, which is why I must charge one gold apiece for them, though I will do touch ups in the event of any incident up to a year from now free of charge."

"Sounds reasonable."

"So what then would you like to be your symbol my dear Miss Dominique?"

You hold the leash!
>Mistress's choice
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>>31048506
>go to a trade school or some thing to increase their skill
The apprentice blacksmith seems to be the only real slave for that. Cassandra has already graduated from an Enchanting School, and becoming an indentured servant was her way of paying off her student loans.
And now she's a slave.
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>>31048583
I'm tempted to suggest a large jew nose.
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>>31048583
On first glace it looks like a knife, but looking closer reveals it to be an elf's pointed ear.
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>>31048583
A stylized D
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>>31048506
This is all long-term.

At the moment, we still have an outstanding 100 gold loan. This is nearly the YEARLY maximum wage of the Enchantress.

We don't exactly have the resources to make this a viable course of action at the moment.
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>>31048583
What are the requirements for a brand? A shekel symbol seems to be right up our alley at the moment.
What happens with the brand should the slave buy or be given their freedom?
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>>31048583
This.
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>>31048583
How about a big D? After the family name.
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>>31048583
A copper coin.
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>>31048617
>go to college
>get sold into slaver
Thanks elfbama
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>>31048583
A broken shackle, crossed with a coin.
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>>31048669

You're welcome.
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>>31048654
Big deal. If the enchantress actually ever hits her 50s an hour price we can make that in four months.
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>>31048660

Any identifiable symbol.

In the rare event a slave earns or is given freedom the brand is magically removed, but it almost never happens.
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Currently there are two votes for a stylized D but few proposed options and relatively little voting.

>D
>Something other
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>>31048870
I'm gonna support the shekel symbol.
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>>31048870
Seconding this >>31048662
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>>31048870
D with knife-ear in it.
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>>31048870
Coin with a D on it.
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>>31048870
>Large Jew nose

Or a dreidel.
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>>31048870

I could go with a stylized D. We don't have much of our character's personality down yet, aside from her wanting money but trying to keep things simple and honest. It's kinda hard to make that come out in a brand, so the letter makes a lot of sense.
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>>31048909
Seconding
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>Coin with a D stylized to look like a knife-ear

Is this an acceptable compromise?
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Rolled 1, 16, 14, 20, 18 = 69

>>31048870
seconding >>31048662
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>>31048989
Go for it.
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>>31048989
Yeah. What does the protag look like?
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>>31048989
Sure, not like we'll. ever talk about it again.
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>>31048989
No objection
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>>31049016

Like >>31046132 but blonder.
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>>31048989
Fine with me.
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>>31049062
>not brown
dropped
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>>31048870
I liked the idea of the shekel but we needed more to it, i also liked the idea of a stylized D, but it kinda seems off to me, i just messed with paint and added a Delta symbol just to see what it would look like.
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>>31049076

If you would really prefer to be a brown elf then you can be a brown elf I suppose, since it isn't clarified in the narrative yet. I may as well give you the option.

You'd rather look like pic related then? Or >>31046559 ?
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>>31049120

I'm not a brown elf fan, but I honestly don't give a shit about the MC's skin color.
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>>31049120
>delicious cloe
Best elf, best colours
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>>31049120
I guess just let us tan if we ever want to go brown.
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>>31049120
>dat Cloe
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>>31049147
Second, unless our skin color is actually a big deal or something.
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>>31049170
>>31049181
fellow anon has fine taste indeed

brown and cream blonde best elf
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As much as I think the repeated shekel suggestions are stupid, it's kind of amusing that the shekel symbol is literally a D split down the middle diagonally.

₪


>>31049120
Schrodinger's Elf. Until it's been observed, we're both brown and not brown.
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>>31049228

I did not know that. That's actually kinda neat.
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You explain what you would like for your marker and Aradieu writes it down in his ledgers, takes stock of the slaves and records them as marked, then takes them into the back to create the brand, tailor it to them, and apply them.

It will be at least an hour until he is done. The constable's duties finished you thank him heartily and he leaves.

>-5 Gold

It is lunch time, how will you spend it?

>Light lunch, check going slave prices at the auction block
>Eat heavily at a popular tavern for traders, do market research
>Get something nearby and hang out here while you wait
>Mistress's choice
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>>31049335
Light lunch and check the prices. Markets are turbulent - might find a deal.
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>>31049335
>Eat heavily at a popular tavern for traders, do market research
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>>31049335
>Eat moderately at a popular tavern for traders, do market research

Let's not be a glutton
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>>31049335
>>Light lunch, check going slave prices at the auction block

Might as well get accurate representations of their current sale worth.
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>>31049335
>>Eat heavily at a popular tavern for traders, do market research
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>>31049335
>Eat heavily at a popular tavern for traders, do market research
Let's do what we do best
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>>31049335
>Eat at a popular tavern for traders, do market research
Auction prices are likely to be somewhat depressed due to a sudden influx of slaves who defaulted due to the market crash.

If we had more capital, it'd be reasonable to try and pick up another slave on the cheap, but at the moment it's probably a better idea to get a handle on prices for contract work, maybe do a little bit of networking now that we know what fields we're going to want to look for contacts in.
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>>31049335
>Mistress's choice
Eat lightly at a popular tavern for traders, do market research
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You choose to eat at a popular tavern for traders and put your ear to the ground regarding relevant market prices.

>2d100 please
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Rolled 62, 60 = 122

>>31049569
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Rolled 56, 24 = 80

>>31049569
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Rolled 70, 19 = 89

>>31049569
CAPITALISM HOES!
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Rolled 22, 27 = 49

>>31049569
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Rolled 10, 85 = 95

>>31049569
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>>31049569
Lets put our pointy ear to use.
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Rolled 89, 24 = 113

>>31049569
And what do the markets say?
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Rolled 36, 24 = 60

>>31049730
bah!
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The soup is delicious, a very nice lobster bisque. Of course there are also very nice biscuits, and you follow all of this up with a souffle that has a dash of truffle to it. You tip well and ask the servers what they have been hearing all day, even while listening to rumors yourself.

>(Increase +5-10 Gold) The price of heavy labor slaves is up: most agricultural slaves and factory slaves were bought up by a merchant caravan headed East.
>(Increase +20-30 silver hourly) The wages of higher end brothel girls are up as a result of a nasty STD clearing out several of the lower end places in town, a problem that the upper class brothels do not have.
>(Decrease -20%) The price of glassware is cheaper as a result of slaves from a city known for its artisans having been brought in recently.
>(Decrease -50%) Sometime in the past hour the price of Love Philtres has completely collapsed, as a result factory jobs are flooded with labor.

Your lunch being done you pay and head back towards Aradieu's shop.

>-15 silver

Upon arrival you are greeted by your now branded slaves, still shackled, but looking much more obedient. The Enchantress is in a bit of shock adjusting to the effects of the slave brand on her own finely tuned sense.

What would you like to do now?

>Find new accomodations
>Determine which slaves to auction off in order to re-invest the coin
>More market research, check slave prices as well
>Seek jobs for your slaves
>Mistress's choice
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>>31049880
>>More market research, check slave prices as well
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>>31049880
>More market research, check slave prices as well
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>>31049880
We need new accommodations, to check our slave prices, and get a hold on what we have to work with in their skills.
I don't suppose any of them had any property that is now ours? Both for utility and selling off, or letting them keep for morale?
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>>31049880
>Seek jobs for your slaves.

We know some jobs are going good at the moment, we can at least get the heavy labourer a job.
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>>31049880
>Seek jobs for your slaves

Even in their standard/lowest paying positions with the decrease in the factory market they still make us 4g per week at an absolute minimum.
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>>31049880
>Seek jobs for your slaves
We need to get these slaves working and bringing in a profit.
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>>31049993

>1 Gold = 1,000 Silver
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>>31049880
>Determine which slaves to auction off in order to re-invest the coin
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>>31050019
I'm well aware and already ran the numbers. Assuming the only work the (unrealistically low in this setting) hours of 40 per week at rates between 15-25 per hour that's still 4,000 silver between the five
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>>31049880
>Determine which to auction off.
The profits we could make off the men (especially with that extra 5-10) gold shouldn't be ignored. The market will turn soon.
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>>31050142

You are halving the factory related income right?
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>>31050193
Either way, I still want to get a few jobs. The heavy labourer is going good right now, I want to at least get that for him.
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Deciding to seek employment options for your slaves you spend several hours making inquiries at various places, chattel in tow.

>5d100 please
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Rolled 7, 95, 2, 71, 89 = 264

>>31050291
CAPITALISM HO!
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>>31050291
We should try to console the enchantress and the artisan, they'll be treated fairly and kept from the brothels and hard labor for sure
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Rolled 55, 26, 50, 65, 61 = 257

>>31050291

>>31050193
I'm halving the enchantress's but not the others as you haven't given us any hard numbers on what those rates dropped to only an assumption that they have. I made up that difference with not including perspective commissions and keeping the smith at his lowest pay. Also that 40 hour week.

I'd nail it near perfectly if you gave me some less soft numbers.
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Rolled 30, 38, 49, 56, 19 = 192

>>31050291
Come on gainful employment.
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Rolled 24, 96, 21, 72, 14 = 227

>>31050291
They say freedom isnt free, but we have pages our fair share so lets give a toast to freedom.
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>>31050365
What jobs do you have in mind for the Artisan and the Enchantress? Their normal jobs aren't doing so hot right now.
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>>31050365
That's not for sure.
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Rolled 60, 31, 91, 6, 3 = 191

>>31050291
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Rolled 35, 83, 39, 62, 80 = 299

>>31050291
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>>31050414
No reason to stick a artisan in heavy labour when the pay difference is negligible and it develops a skill.

And even at -50% her skills as an enchantress (and the possible blowback) make putting her in a brother also a unessary act.
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>>31050535
As an Enchantress, what skills does she actually have? I'm trying to think how we can market her skills to a better degree.
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>>31050369
Axe this math. I was actually using half modified numbers by mistake.
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>>31047323
Wait, he loses them because we own the contracts? Shouldn't the leases under which they serve him still apply?
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Cassandra's present options
-Pickings are slim for some reason, everyone is being stingy
-Job offer: Brothel, 100 silver an hour (50 plus tip is yours, the offer is obviously low-ball)

Valyria's present options
-Employment opportunities are surprisingly good
-Job offer: Brothel, 105 Silver an hour (55 plus tip is yours)
-Job offer: Gold detailing, 12 Silver an hour
-Commission offer: 1 Gold commission for a decorative mask (minus material costs), expected 20 hours of labor

Etrius's present options
-Employment opportunities are terrible for some reason, must be jinxed luck
-Job offer: Heavy manual labor- 12 silver hourly, hauling produce into the city from farms

Dalt's present options
-Employment opportunities are good
-Job offer: Heavy lifting in a warehouse, 16 silver hourly
-Commission offer: Low end swords for export South, 100 silver Retainer, 10 hours estimated

Sven's present options
-Employment opportunities are good
-Job offer: Heavy lifting in warehouse, 15 silver hourly
-Commission offer: Silverware set, 100 silver, 10 hours estimated
-Commission offer: Detail work on armor set, 200 silver, 15 hours estimated

You hold the leash
>Find new accomodations
>Determine which slaves to auction off in order to re-invest the coin
>Assign work
>Mistress's choice
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>>31050654
Basically he held their contracts for Servitude, not Slavery. They failed to keep up payments and fell below a certain amount, meaning their contracts defaulted. We then bought their contracts as actual Slaves, so we own them and they no longer work for him.

At least that is how it works, I think.
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>>31050654

>they contract with him to work for "x" wages and pay back "y" debt
>he sells the hypothetical ownership of the worker as a potential slave on the market based on projected value and the likelihood of default
>if slavery does not ensue he gets free money
>if slavery ensues the slave defaults to your ownership
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>>31050714
>Assign work


Ask Cassandra if she's sexually experience, I rather not sent a lamb into the slaughterhouse
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>>31050654
Exception clause in it, kinda like how banks can sell your mortgage off without telling you about it.

>>31050714
Keep Cassandra for now, maybe learn some enchanting of our own from her, see how she's taking to the brand with her skill/senses
Take the commission with Valyria, if we can get her a reputation as a good artisan all the better.
Etrius well.. with those offers, selling might be better at the moment, could always ask him his opinion on farmwork.
Dalt, not sure, explain the nature of the job and the retainer.
Sven, straight onto artisan work, armor set, same as Valyria.

What accommodations do we currently have? Enough for all of us? Our slaves are our responsibility to feed and house now?
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>>31050714
>Assign work
Lets hold off on throwing Cassandra to the brothel immediately, I don't want to ruin her and have better work for her show up

Valyria, do that commission, followed by gold detailing

Etrius, assign him to heavy manual labor

Dalt, do that commission

Sven, commission for detail work on armor set
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>>31050714
>Assign work.

Ok Dalt was our manual labourer guy, we're giving him the manual labour job.

Gold detailing will be good for Etrius I guess, but I don't think he's trained in it. However if they're willing to hire, they must be willing to train too.

Valyria can also take the gold detailing, for the same reasons.

Cassandra I want to hold out on, I have a good idea for her in the future.

Others I have no opinion on.
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>>31050761
No no no, she's too useful to waste as a whore. They might un-pretty her.

>>31050714
Estimate prices for the mask contract, sell Etrius, take the sword contract, and take the armor contract.
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>>31050714
>Cassandra
To the brothel with ye!

>Valyria
Give her a shot at the commission. If she does well she might bring in higher paying jobs.

>Etrius
Sucks man but you're getting sold.

>Dalt
Also inclined to sell

>Sven
Try the armor detailing commission.
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...any other players read the QM's curt descriptions of the new slaves and their situations, as sheer callousness on the main character's part? I'm no big literary critic so I can't tell if it's intentional or not, but I think it helps set the mood for economically exploiting them.
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>>31050795
However I just had another idea I didn't think about, we can start our own private business with Dalt and Cassandra. Depending on how her Enchantress skills are up to par, we could start smithing and selling Enchanted items.
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>>31050714
>Assign work
>Find new acomodations
We should accept most commission offers, and keep Cassandra with us.
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>>31050836
In the end it doesn't really matter, does it? They're commodities.
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>>31050714
You do commissions to get more commissions in the future.

Cassandra - nothing for now

Valyria - Gold mask Commission

Estrius - far labour it is

Dalt - sword Commission

Sven - armor set commission
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>>31050853
Spoken like a true capitalist, but they are also people, and currently, our people.
Remember, we bet on the beginning of this, we could just as easily ended up working through life on our back as a slave.
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THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR REASONS: Where are the slaves branded?
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Note that week by week you can look for new job options for them even within the same field.

Also note that commissions can stack with each other or a single job, though jobs do not stack. Should have clarified.

>>31050761

She's not a virgin. If she were the offer would have been much higher.

>>31050769

>Dalt, not sure, explain the nature of the job and the retainer.

~10 hours spent hammering out crude swords, 100 silver guaranteed, no costs to pay for.

>What accommodations do we currently have? Enough for all of us? Our slaves are our responsibility to feed and house now?

An apartment barely big enough for you, couldn't house all of you long term and will be cramped with your slaves there, you are responsible for feeding and housing them now out of your own pocket.
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>>31050714
OP, what would it take to finish Dalt's apprenticeship?
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>>31050838
Maybe... Alone they are worth a bit, but together with their combined skill set might give us better opportunities.
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>>31050923

Months and months of craftwork, maybe even a year.

>>31050917

Back, just below the collarbone.
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>>31050918
Dalt takes the job then, but we're going to need to get everyone the tools needed for all the crafts, and get ourselves new accommodations for the lot of us.
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>>31050898
But we didn't. No point dwelling on that. Morale is just another variable effecting the value of the commodity. It's worthwhile to keep it relatively high, but you can't have them getting too comfortable, or they'll get snooty, thus lowering their value and their potential production, along with our profit.

They will be treated decently, not well. And certainly not as full people.
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>>31050918
The the other girl we have is? we were offered a higher price.
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>>31050918
Go looking for housing.
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>>31050941
Plus I think Enchanted items are still good on the market, even if they are crude and basic.
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>>31050714
>Cassandra
That's a shit deal, let's keep her as a personal slave for now. We'll find something better later, and we can definitely find some use for a personal enchantress later, in the meanwhile we'll no doubt come up with some domestic work.
>Valyria
The commission is barely a worse deal than the brothel, and could increase her value. Go with that.
>Etrius
Hang onto him for now too. If nothing else we can use him for sexual services, but that wage is utter shit. Or we can just sell him.
>Dalt
A hard one, I'll defer my vote here.
>Sven
Armor detailing. Same reasoning as with Valyria.
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>>31050714
>Cassandra
Eh, check again tomorrow. Maybe advertise her abilities or something.
>Valyria
Holy shit take that mask job that's fucking amazing. Ask the client if they'd like some custom enchanting done as well?
>Etrius
I'm leaning towards just selling him, honestly.
>Dalt
Take the commission, bank on him skilling up.
>Sven
Take both commissions.
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>All these people who would prefer for Cassandra, a SLAVE who we BOUGHT for PROFIT, to free-load off of us on our dime instead of working her in a brothel for a while even if the offer is low
>Almost nobody wants to sell any of the slaves, even the ones with low skill value who are inflated in price on the market right now when we stand to make more investing the profits from the sale

You guys are fucking terrible capitalists.
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>>31050714
>>31050918

>Cassandra
Hold onto her for now. The brothel work might permanently damage her. She's educated, she may be more useful than she appears

>Val
Commission work for decorative mask

>Etrius
Heavy labor or sell

>Dalt
Make swords

>Sven
Commission work for armor. Maybe he could be cross-trained with Dalt, so one of them could eventually make ceremonial swords for commission.
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>>31050947
Collarbone is on the front.
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>>31051055
At least my idea was good to get Cassandra to earn her worth.
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>>31051055
/tg/ is full of moralfags and that's okay.
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>>31051055
most anons are voting for selling Etrius, the most useless slave we have, and sending Cass to the brothel would just make her damaged goods, and bring decreased profits in the long term

you anon are a piss poor capitalist, maybe you are a commie underneath that facade
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Gotta grab fourth meal, I'll be back in like 30 mins.

Strategize while I'm out, I'll answer questions and stuff when I get back.
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>>31050918
What about Val?
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>>31051055
I voted to get rid of Etrius. His price is high right now, and he's practically worthless as labor.

Cassandra is iffy. While her value is currently low, the brothel presents a risky proposition. If they damage her, we lose her best asset.
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>>31051034
We should ask what the price of the materials are first though.
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>>31051055
I voted that way before I saw the "week" thing. Now I think Cassandra should hit the brothel. Aside from Etrius though, who do you think we should sell?

>>31051096
>sending Cass to the brothel would just make her damaged goods
You think only virgins can enchant?
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>>31051103
Why does nobody think about the Dalt/Cassandra combo?! That is amazing for business! Enchanted items, even the weak ones, are worth quite a bit!
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>>31051055
>Hey guys I bought a highly educated and skilled worker.
>I know, let's throw her into an occupation that makes pennies and may permanently damage her physically or psychologically just because I have to make profit every second of every day.
Christ if you want it that bad why don't we just sign up to work the brothel with her, they can use us in our sleep so we're not wasting time.
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>>31050972
Stop trying to cool that's a terrible economic analysis, especially when it runs on vague generalizations on a small diverse group we have no substantial information on but can still easily observe.

If you don't rely on data you're a shitty capitalist and a worse manager.
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>>31050714
Cassandra
Teach her cooking or find something else for her to do.

Valyria-Gold Detailing

Etrius-Manual Labor for now

Dalt-Commission

Sven-Both Commissions
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>>31051130
Yeah, I didn't vote for brothel because I thought it would be a long term job. If it's for a week that's fine.
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>>31051103
If they damage her, we sue.
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>>31051140
I'll repeat my idea. Dalt is an apprentice Smith, but he can get better. Cassandra can Enchant shit... Mix both together, we get Enchanted weapons/armour/accessories to sell for good prices!
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>>31050947
>Months and months of craftwork, maybe even a year.
How much more would he be worth if he completed his apprenticeship?
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>>31051180
You're assuming there is a market for these items. We have no indication that such a market exists, or if it does, that we can compete.
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>>31051180
yeah, we should put the feelers out for people looking for enchanted commission work
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>>31051180
Too long term. I'm thinking that enchanted filigree and detailing will be easier to startup and get commissions for.
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>>31051206
We can at least try, Jesus Christ. Better than selling them or sending Cassandra off to the Brothel.
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>>31050714
>>Assign work
Accept
>Valyria
>-Commission offer: 1 Gold commission for a decorative mask (minus material costs), expected 20 hours of labor

>Dalt
>-Commission offer: Low end swords for export South, 100 silver Retainer, 10 hours estimated

>Sven
>-Commission offer: Silverware set, 100 silver, 10 hours estimated
>-Commission offer: Detail work on armor set, 200 silver, 15 hours estimated

so that they aren't filled by other laborers. Manual labor and brothel jobs will almost always be available, so jumping in on those is premature.

As far as Cassandra is concerned, she is a graduate from an Enchanter's school. Which means she has associates and contacts in the field that we might not.

Have her go out and inquire PERSONALLY about positions. If they're acquaintances, they'll be more likely to attempt to offer a position so that she is not made to work the brothels.
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>>31051219
It may be long term, but if we keep getting them commissions and other related work they can increase in skill. Meaning it'll be do-able.
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>>31051227
We literally just investigated the current desires of the market. That is where we got these job offers from, if you were paying any attention whatsoever.

As of right now, nobody is looking for amateur enchanted goods.
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>>31051180
Bro, vertical integration isn't a revolutionary new idea.

>>31051227
>Note that week by week you can look for new job options
We wouldn't be getting that kind of operation up in a week anyway. We don't have any tools or workshop space and right now we're pretty low on capital.
Actually, I'm wondering how we're going to do commissions too, or if renting workshop space is already factored into the pay (which would make those low numbers make a lot more sense) to save on player math.
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No matter what we decide, We've got to sell Etrius. He's the only unskilled one, and he's currently worth more on the market.
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>>31051275
As I stated earlier, this would be our own work. Not offering them out to others to do the job... We'd be starting our own business venture, and like I said, it'll work out.
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>>31051254
You read the second part of my reply, right? I'm not saying it's not possible, just that if there's something we could possibly do in the near future, it's enchanted filigree.

Raw materials are expensive and risky if they don't sell.
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>>31051275
no, not currently, but we keep doing commissions and we'll get more and more interest, which we can use to ply our slaves trades for profit and play the interest of those who commission them, you do know how startup commission businesses work right?
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>>31051294
I know it is a long term plan, but it is better to get the ground-work built up now. If we get them to increase in skill and earn the cash it'll be a good buff to our earnings.
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>>31051327
I never said we had to start straight away, it is a long term idea that can work out to our benefit if we get the ground-work started by upping their skills and not whoring them.
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>>31051237
Oh bloody hell why didn't I realize Sven could pick up both commission jobs? Fuck, I should be sleeping I guess.
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>>31051328
And barring exceptional work, that could take months if not years.
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I'd like to offer a compromise on Cassandra: find her light menial labor, just enough to cover keeping her, until we can find a better offer or until the market for her skillset improves.
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>>31051299
He's not unskilled, he's a glass worker.
I swear if he had got a Comission you wouldn't be saying anything.

He's been out of work for less than half a day, just show some discretion.
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>>31051309
Just because you said it doesn't make it true. And while it would be ideal to have our own production, the fact of the matter is we aren't set up enough yet. We have some fortunate investments but we're still living out of a fucking studio apartment, we can't run any kind of operation like that.

>you do know how startup commission businesses work right?
I know they need startup funding.

>>31051353
Yes, but there's no good option to have Cassandra increase in skill right now, and the brothel is the best way to get capital.

>>31051372
>and not whoring them.
Except there's no point to that.

>>31051400
We already looked for work, no such labor was found. If we emply her as a domestic, it would be for us. And I doubt she can give us 100 denari worth of oral every hour.
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>>31051299
Etrius is somewhat skilled, but there's no evidence that it's because of specialized training. Just that he was made to help out with glasswork while not filling bottles.

If this is not the case, we should find out. If he only has incidental training, or not very many years of training, selling him is probably reasonable. Otherwise manual labor while waiting for glasswork commissions is probably the best plan.

If Dalt completes his commission and there is positive feedback, he may be worth retaining. If the feedback is neutral or worse, the increase in prices for manual laborers probably means it's more cost-effective to sell him.
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>Cassandra
Whore.
>Valyria
Commission
>Etrius
Sell
>Dalt
Sell, I reckon. It's a harder choice than most, but we're liable to get a good deal on him, and replace him for cheaper later.
>Sven
Armor
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>>31051463
You have no business sense, selling Dalt. He is capable of earning more coin than he is worth on the market.
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>>31051463
>and replace him for cheaper later.
How would a smith be cheaper to replace later?
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>>31051463
>>Dalt
>Sell, I reckon

Well your completely retarded
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>>31051463
GM, please ignore the Dalt section of this vote. Clearly the voter is not in his right mind.
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>>31050714
>Cassandra
Go and have her hit up former schoolmates to get information on the enchanting market and why it's depressed right now (aside from factory enchanters like her becoming slaves).

>Valyria
Commission for a decorative mask

>Etrius
We did hear that the market for heavy labor slaves is supposed to pick up; just have him take the job for now.

>Dalt
Take the commission

>Sven
Do both commissions; he should be able to knock them both out in a week.
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>>31050714
Cassandra
>Brothel Work

Valyria
>Gold detailing
>Inquire about materials for the commission work.

Etrius
>I guess labor is the only option unless we want to sell him.

Dalt
>Warehouse and commission

Sven
>Warehouse and detail work on armor

Also, find new accommodations.
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>>31051553
Yeah, no. You don't get to decide which votes are counted namefag.
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>>31051477
>He is capable of earning more coin than he is worth on the market.
All slaves are, given time. But he's not capable of earning much now. We're better off selling him above value now, and buying another smith at low cost later.

>>31051481
Menials are in demand right now. And judging from how heavy labor is still his most profitable endeavor, he can easily be sold as a menial for full value. Obviously, if it turns out that we can't get a good deal on him (60+ gold at least) then I would retract this.

>>31051532
Are you going to support that with any evidence or argument?
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>>31051532
>>31051553
OP, come back. The posters are being reduced to insulting other people even after they're vote is still majority vote and they have already clearly stated a good argument against it.

just chill, guys
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>>31051580
I never said I get to decide. It was a request. Please learn to read good Sir.
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>>31051580
Report, filter, move on.
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>>31051588
>Are you going to support that with any evidence or argument?
the dude is a valuable smith getting commission offers and you want to sell him and think it will be cheaper to replace him later, when prices for slaves are skyrocketing right now...
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>>31051561
>We did hear that the market for heavy labor slaves is supposed to pick up
No, we heard it's up now. In other words, a good time to sell.
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>>31051595
>good Sir.
Let's please not unleash that level of shitposting in this pretty decent quest.
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>>31051645
You're right, I apologize. That was over the line.
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>>31051645
He's a namefag, he probably doesn't even realize what he's doing.
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Even if people DID want to sell Dalt, there's no reason we shouldn't have him complete the offered 10-hour commission first. The markets aren't going to stabilize from the ENTIRE HEAVY LABOR WORKFORCE being bought up for caravans within two days or so.

If he does a shit job doing basic smith work, he's not appreciably better than an unskilled laborer and can be sold as such. If he finishes under time allowance (and thus is an expedient or particularly hard worker) or there is positive feedback on his ability from the commissioner or the owner of the workshop rented for blacksmith work we can talk further training.
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>>31050714
Bed Cassandra ourselves for some ear and other licking.
Commission work for everyone but Etrius, hmm.. worth taking to bed to, or selling?

Speaking of beds, we need a bigger place to live.
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>>31051676
The commission only pays an estimated 10d/hour though. We'd get better wages from sending him to the warehouse job, and it would still be chump change. Yeah, we could assess Dalt, but our knowledge of his ability is probably accurate since it wouldn't benefit anyone to undervalue him.

>>31051687
>Speaking of beds, we need a bigger place to live.
Sounds like a good way to spend the money we make off Etrius and Dalt.
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>>31050836
We're not exploiting them. We're providing them board and breakfast, and they're hopefully providing us an income. Mutual benefit.
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How lewd is the quest going to get
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Answering questions now, fourth meal has been consumed.

>Val is not a virgin, the brothel that was interested in her just offered you a fair price
>If something happens that damages Cassandra while she's working at the brothel you can sue for compensation and damages, making such an outcome unlikely
>If Dalt completed his apprenticeship he would appreciate in value by perhaps another ten gold

Also you (Dominique) specializes in investing and speculating on slave contracts as well as slaves, but you require money with which to do so. How you get that money is up to you, but those sorts of investments are measured in Gold which you are running short of rapidly.

I am now going to try and make heads or tails of what you want to do next. Wish me luck.
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>>31050836
I do like the implied callousness from the way this is all presented, yeah.
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>>31051777
>Yeah, we could assess Dalt, but our knowledge of his ability is probably accurate since it wouldn't benefit anyone to undervalue him.
I'd much rather get an assessment from actual blacksmiths and/or people who are actually commissioning arms and armor rather than relying on a layperson's assessment. 10 hours of 6s less per hour is probably a reasonable price to pay for that much.

If the commission job includes rental of workspace, this also gets him in alongside a non-apprentice blacksmith who is renting out part of his workshop, which opens up an increased likelihood of an opportunity for continuing his apprenticeship to arise.

>>31051846
>>If Dalt completed his apprenticeship he would appreciate in value by perhaps another ten gold
This is a pretty good reason to want to sell him, since we're likely to receive that kind of price increase just because of labor shortage, and it doesn't take nearly the same effort invested.

Even if we wanted a smith among our assets eventually, it's better to sell an unskilled smith for skilled smith money now, and purchase someone later on that doesn't require our further investment.
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>>31051846
>If Dalt completed his apprenticeship he would appreciate in value by perhaps another ten gold
Well shit, that's really fuck all. Let's off-load him now then, we might get that increase in value just from the market fluctuation.

>I am now going to try and make heads or tails of what you want to do next.
There's almost a consensus, people were just arguing due to nothing better to do.
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>>31051846
it seemed pretty clear that consensus was to hold Cass back from brothel work, and get everyone but Etrius doing commission work and other work alongside that, while it was a somewhat even tie between selling or getting Etrius to work
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>>31051900
Sounds about right to me.
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>>31051846
Good luck.
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>>31051900
>it seemed pretty clear that consensus was to hold Cass back from brothel work
That's about the only thing there WASN'T clear consensus about. Especially because most of the votes for that were before he clarified that these are single-week assignments.
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>>31051900
Honestly? That was before I realized it was on a weekly basis. I changed my vote to hire her off to a brothel.
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>>31051846

Changing >>31051154
to sell Etrius, because:
5 people is too much to argue over when voting
interest sux
we can focus on enchanting/smithing
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>>31051900
>hold Cass back from brothel work
I'm still mostly interested in asking her about locating job prospects personally, since I'd imagine that with her contract running out in 6 months she would at least have had some degree of knowledge of where she was going to take her services next.

That and she could very well have contacts within the field that we do not, which could open up job opportunities that we, as a slave contractor, would not have been offered. "It's not what you, but who you know" and all that.
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>>31052013
>I'm still mostly interested in asking her about locating job prospects personally
Seems like a good way to get a runaway.

That said, I suppose we should at least talk to her about it. She is our most valuable asset, I suppose.
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>>31052046
One of our most valuable, if we can use her skillset properly.
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>>31052013
I suppose we can try. If that doesn't pan out we still need to make her work this week, and if it's brothel work so be it.
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>>31052046
>Seems like a good way to get a runaway.
There's no reason we should expect this out of every person we take our eyes off of. Especially given the fact that brands have inherent obedience enhancement and are more easily tracked.

If we were worried about runaways, the main concerns would be the two men who attempted to leg it the minute we informed them of their change in status and had to be detained by the constable.

Cassandra begged and pleaded and whatnot, but ultimately didn't really do anything besides making a bunch of noise. Allowing her to attempt to locate a job with some semblance of normality is probably a way better way to keep her in line than letting her know that OK, YOU HOOKER NOW.
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>>31052046
Pretty sure our most valuable asset is Dominique herself, since she was sold at 50 for an indentureship contract and Cassandra was only 14.
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>>31052046
>She is our most valuable asset
College-educated, in a high-skill field, and able to command a wage that would have normally meant that her indentured servitude would be safe from becoming slavery (aside from unexpected economic collapse).
She's the Microelectronic Engineer of our owned assets. If not for this love potion bubble bursting, she'd have been one of our clients in 6 months, rather than our property.
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>>31052069
No, she's literally our most valuable. She's worth 80, the next best is worth 60..
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>>31052114
>Cassandra begged and pleaded and whatnot, but ultimately didn't really do anything besides making a bunch of noise. Allowing her to attempt to locate a job with some semblance of normality is probably a way better way to keep her in line than letting her know that OK, YOU HOOKER NOW.
This is a good point. I'm changing my vote back, if it's not too late to do so.
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>>31052115
That 14 Gold was for buying her contract on the futures market, NOT the actual value of the contract itself.
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>>31052115
Cassandra's contract was almost up with no real indication of her defaulting on it. No one would bother buying an indentured servant with an almost nonexistent chance of return. That's why her price is so low.
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>>31052156
True. But 50 for an indentured servant compared to 80 for a slave is still in our favor.
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>>31052115
>Dominique herself, since she was sold at 50 for an indentureship contract

>>31046185
>>Contract of Indenture (liability): 50 Gold Florins still owed
>"still owed", rather than the Market Leverage's "owed"

This implies that we've made previous payments on this contract (after all, we've been in it for 2 years), which means this was not its baseline value.

What was the value of our initial contract at age 16, just out of curiosity?
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>>31052183
No it's not, because we don't know the full value of Cassandra's Contract of Indenture, which would likely have been far more that Dominique's, as Cassandra is a school-trained Enchantress while Dominique was unskilled at the time of the contract signing.

You're comparing two things that aren't meant to be compared directly with each other.
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So what I have worked out so far is

>Voted overwhelmingly to do nothing with Cassandra
>You seem to only want Val to do the Commission on the Mask
>I have no idea if you want to sell Etrius or not and neither do you..?
>Dalt does warehouse and commission
>Sven does both commissions

Am I missing anything glaring? Also speed reading this back and forth stuff hurt my brain.

>>31051841

That's up to you.
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>>31052238
We do want to sell Etrius though.
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>>31052238
We're considering having Cassandra try to make contact with anyone she knows about jobs she can do, since she went to college or whatever she likely knows people in the same trade.

As for Etrius, we can easily have him do work then sell him after if he's not up to snuff right? So maybe go with that?
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>>31052238
Let's give Etrius a chance to impress us personally, and make sure he knows that it's that or being sold.
By nothing you mean sweet gentle yuri right?

If we could get a breakdown of expenses, future budget estimate, and costs of a new place plus room/board for our slaves and us, that might help.
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>>31052284
It's going to be one of those quests isn't it?
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>>31052270

>college

She indentured to learn the enchantress trade at a factory from an employer with other factory enchanters in his employee. College had nothing to do with it. Magic is actually rather weak in this setting.
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>>31052238
> That's up to you.
well then, seeing as we're doing nothing with Cass, I think its time to get nibbling and licking with some long slender elfin ears
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>>31052238
>>Voted overwhelmingly to do nothing with Cassandra

Seems like we either wanted to use her contacts to get work for her or hire her to a brothel when we learned it's for a week.
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>>31052238
>Voted overwhelmingly to do nothing with Cassandra
A third option, that of having Cassandra ask around in her field and contact old schoolmates, was made.

We only want Val to do the commission because we want to keep her open in case another commission job comes by.
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>>31052238
Pretty much, no idea why anyone things selling etrus without actually seeing what his market looks like is smart.
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>>31052320
Oh, I thought she was fully educated... Fuck.
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>>31052238
>Voted overwhelmingly to do nothing with Cassandra
We want to leverage her contacts to find work.

>You seem to only want Val to do the Commission on the Mask
Are you implying she could do more?

>stupid smelly males
Couldn't care less tbh.

>>31052320
Oh what. Why didn't you mention this sooner?
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>>31050836
>>31051864

You are living in a society that allows for slavery and in which "love potions", i.e. magic date rape drugs, are a valuable commodity openly traded in.

There aren't exactly high moral standards at work by the real world's standards.
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>>31052320
I think the problem was that
>a factory Enchantress makes enough money that the notion that she would be forced to default on her loan due to a collapse in wages was nigh unthinkable.
which implied that her skills were in demand and well-compensated, and
>However the debt that she incurred in order to pay for the training
>pay for the training
Most people think of college education when told that loans (and expensive ones) needed to be taken out for training and education.
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Cassandra is part elf, shouldn't we be raping her?
>>31052238
I vote in favor of whatever is most popular because this is just the first week and we won't die yet
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>>31052407
So... Is she even a good Enchantress? What can she even do?
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>>31052435
We're more elf than she is. She'll be the one doing the raping.
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>>31052238
Sell Etrius

Val depends on whether the regular gig requires a minimum number of hours. If so then yeah, just the commission.

Still would prefer Cassandra went to the brothel, if we have to coddle her make it every other night or something.
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>>31052414

Apprenticeships, trade skills, some educational stuff (your character is somewhat educated but in a specialized fashion), all reasons to go into debt when your options are hard manual labor for men and prostitution for women, or low paying jobs in the service industry.

>>31052438

Magic mostly plays around with people's emotions, but duration, intensity, and complexity of the emotion all draw from the same pool of energy used to cast the spell, which is limited. She is competent, but in terms of practical experience specialized.
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>>31052438
Make date rape drugs, haven't you've been paying attention?
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>>31052488
Oh, ok then. Yeah send her to the whore house this week then, if she doesn't get any other work offered next week I don't care what happens to her.
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>>31052238
>You seem to only want Val to do the Commission on the Mask
She can do gold detailing after completing it, we just didn't bother updating our votes after you specified that this was labor for a full week and they could do other things too.
>I have no idea if you want to sell Etrius
We do, it's overwhelmingly in favor of selling.

>Voted overwhelmingly to do nothing with Cassandra
This is pretty controversial, with a lot of changed votes. You should probably do a final destination vote on this one.
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>>31052320
I would assume she has at least some amount of savings seeing as she was well-paid enough to not be living paycheck to paycheck and only got enslaved because of an unfortunate rider in her contract.

If she doesn't want to work in brothels, offer to have her pay us a working wage out of those savings until work comes through? (Or are those accumulated savings part of our investments reaped off-screen in the opening posts?)

We were personally given the ability to choose between brothel work and something more cerebral, and chose not to go into the oldest profession. Cassandra obviously did the same. It'd be nice to not have to throw that out the window, even if it is pragmatic in the short-term to do so.

Engender a more positive relationship with her as she's an equally valuable skilled laborer as brothel worker. Especially since she enchants love philters, and we don't want her soured to us when she theoretically has the means to drug us.

It would probably help to get a handle on prices for accommodations so we know how much capital we need. We're almost certainly going to have to sell at least one slave in order to have enough liquid assets to cover acquiring room and board before income starts to trickle in unless we put some of them up temporarily in inns and the like.
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How are the children of slaves raised? At the expense of the slave's owner? Is 16 the normal age for starting work or becoming an indentured laborer?

Are we a virgin? Do we know who our father was?
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>>31052536
Pretty sure we just bought the rights to her if that provision (her enslavement) came into effect. Any savings she had would have been transferred to her original contract holder unless we struct a much better bargain than I expect we had the leverage to.
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>>31052597
I believe it was established that we are not, and our mother worked at a brothel. So no we don't.
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>>31052597
Is there any importance to those spoilered questions?
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>>31052597

>How are the children of slaves raised?

Orphanarium.

>Is 16 the normal age for starting work or becoming an indentured laborer?

It's when free orphan housing and education ends.

>Are we a virgin?

Maybe.

>Do we know who our father was?

Nope.
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>>31052665
>Orphanarium
Who pays for that?
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>>31052665
Is that a 'lesbians don't count' maybe, or a 'there were boys and you got drunk' maybe.
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I'm going to go ahead and call a recont on what to do with Cassandra, but I assume you're going to sell Etrius then?

So new vote on Cassandra now that more has been explained.
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>>31052687
Probably the state.
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>>31052713
Keep her, for now.
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>>31052628
I dunno; I feel like paying 14 gold (two full months wages for our Factory Enchantress at full price) as a complete wager that she will default within six months is a pretty substantial bet to make.

That aside, I'm not sure why someone becoming a slave would have their assets go to anyone other than the person who is now their master.

>>31052687
Probably government-managed, given how widespread the slavery system is in-setting.

I'm mostly curious about how a brothel worker got pregnant. Seems like poor business practices. Unless mom was one of those "special clients" ones and we've got a whooooole lot of siblings we don't know about.
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>>31052647
>>31052651
Just curious. It could impact how we feel about sending Cassandra to a brothel on a temporary or indefinite basis.

>>31052665
>Nope.
A mystery!

>It's when free orphan housing and education ends.
Can we lurk outside an orphanarium looking to pick up good deals on new contracts for indentured servitude?
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>>31052694
The latter doesn't apply since we could check, so probably lesbians. It could also be an "anal doesn't count" maybe. Either way, we can pawn off our hymen in a pinch.
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>>31052713
Brothel~
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>>31052713
>Send Cassandra to the whore house.

As much as I defended her before, I have found out she is currently worthless to us as anything other than some income. Let her be a whore for a week, if no jobs come up either keep her as a whore or sell her.
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>>31052713
Brothel.
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>>31052713
I vote brothel. I assume there's an extremely low chance of AIDS?
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>>31052713
sell etrius, keep cassandra and give her a chance to impress us, either with networking, enchanting knowledge, or her tongue.
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>>31052748
>Whores are in high demand currently due to a large spread of STD's in the less high-class Brothels.
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>>31052713
Brothel. Hehehe.
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>>31052748

Virtually nil chance of AIDS.
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>>31052713
You should probably do final destination voting to prevent samefaggotry, but in any case my vote is brothel.
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>>31052713
Sell Etrius

Get some stock for Cassandra. Make one of everything, for practice and just incase, then send her to whore house.
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>>31052713
Brothel
>>31052748
I'm hoping for 'no chance of STDs in high-class brothels' or at least curable STDs.
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>>31052713
It's her first week. Give Cassandra a chance before throwing her to the wolves.
Sell Etrius.
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Rolled 3

>>31052713
bitch need to get out on the Corner but a Brothel works to I guess
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>>31052713
Keep her around. She has too much potential to be worked like that.
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>>31052713
Just stumbled across this and I love it.

Make a bloody twitter and I will follow it and join in on as many threads as I can.
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>>31052772
Yeah, but has that problem been fixed in the brothel we're sending her to?
There had better be some proper checkups of the girls AND clients this time around.
While we could sue the brothel for damages, we'd have to pay a lawyer for that, and the brothel could afford one easier than we could.
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>>31052783
That's my hope as well, but there's still a chance. Probably up to a d100 roll or something
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>>31052713
Sell Etrius and put Cass in the Brothel
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>>31052748
Even if she picks up a disease, it just means no more brothel work for her. Doesn't mean she's useless.
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>>31052748
We get compensation is our slave gets hurt in a brothel, so that might cover STDs.

>>31052772
If we send Cassandra to a high-class brothel she should be safe. On the other hand, we didn't get good offers for brothel work for her "for some reason", so maybe the market knows something we don't and caution would pay.
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>>31052814
I assume the Brothel we're sending her to is of the higher quality.
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>>31052713
Keep her on the bench for now (no brothel).
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>>31052713
I'm still tempted to let her know that we are willing to give her a short reprieve from brothel work assuming she can find Enchanting work within one week's time. One week's wages isn't nothing, but I feel like setting ourselves up as a comparatively benevolent master is an investment that will repay itself reasonably quickly.

"We will move you to the place you'll fetch the highest price no matter what your skills" is not a good precedent to set up, ESPECIALLY if Cassandra is going to live in shared housing with future female slaves.
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>>31052713
No brothel.
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>>31052791
Brothels don't have wolves. You're thinking of Colosseums.
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>>31052831
>so that might cover STDs.
'Might' is not something we want. Look what happened to Cassandra and the rest with that 'might be okay' rider in their contracts.
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>>31052849
Actually, this is a good point. I'm changing my vote to no brothel, if that's alright.
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>>31052713
Give her a week to find work.
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>>31052713
Man I really don't think just throwing her into the brothel straight up is a good plan.
Sure it gets us cash in the short term, but how long will she really last there?
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>>31052734

>Can we lurk outside an orphanarium looking to pick up good deals on new contracts for indentured servitude?

Yes.
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>>31052849
I'll second this
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>>31052849
You don't think the others will resent her for having a week's vacation while they toil for their new master?
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>>31052924
A week? I guess we could try it on a day by day basis.
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>>31052939
Are you going to make a twitter or something so you can let us know about future threads?
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>>31052849
>One week's wages isn't nothing
It's about five gold even before tips.

That said, I agree with the overall point. Give her a week to find a job. Assuming she doesn't actually WANT to be sent to a brothel. Who knows, she's part elf after all.
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>>31052939
...don't we have work tomorrow?
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>>31052941
The others don't have the same skill level and are more likely to be sold.
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>>31052957

In a bit. Meta kills quests though.
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>>31052941
The five of them all worked for the same employer, so presumably there's at least some camaraderie there.

That said, the only other woman will be glad for her (which she wouldn't if SHE were headed to the brothels and the Enchanter wasn't), and the men might be somewhat bitter, but they're mostly getting work in their fields regardless or manual labor, which is unlikely to be something they'll view as abhorrent as being whiplashed from being a skilled laborer into prostitution.
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>>31052961
>Who knows, she's part elf after all.
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>>31052979
>>31052941
The other point is that the others aren't at the point of "Brothel or the auction block" yet.
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>>31052961
1g=1000 silver
50 silver x7 days
350 silver plus tips, not even half a gold.
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>>31052941
She's not getting a week's vacation. She's getting a week to find a reason for us to keep her out of the brothel.
>>31052995
How is posting a twitter meta?
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>>31053005

That's 50 silver an hour anon, not per day. She earns more like 500 silver a day.
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>>31053005
No, that's 50 silver an hour. Assume a 30-50 hour work week and your making 1.5-2.5 gold before tips.
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>>31052713
Let's give her a chance to find a different work,
no brothel for now.
Sell Etrius.
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We seem to have hit the bump limit a while ago. Someone ought to archive.

>>31053029

It isn't... yet.
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>>31053031
Can Cass find work on her own or is that our responsibility as her master?
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>>31053005
She can work more than an hour a day. I calculated it at 14 hours a day, which might be excessive but makes a nice round number.
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>>31053074
Going to make a new thread? Or nah?
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>>31053029
>She's getting a week to find a reason for us to keep her out of the brothel.

Exactly. If she REALLY doesn't want to work in a brothel she'll make fucking sure of it.


>>31053074
It may actually be a good idea for you to at least do the first Archive so we can go off a standardized format in the future.
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>>31053074
You going to make the next story post in a new thread, and continue on with finding a better pad and negotiating a freedwoman's wages? Or just end it for the evening?
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>>31053005
50 silver is the hourly rate. Assuming a 40-hour work week, it's about 2 gold.

That said, I'd be surprised if a first-time brothel worker would get full hours.

>>31052713
I'd much rather sell Dalt than Etrius, since he's both a more valuable physical laborer, AND a less valuable projected employment prospect in the long-term.

People seem kind of distracted by the fact that Dalt got a commission by random chance and Etrius didn't, and are rushing to sell a more valuable asset because of bad luck.
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>>31053081

The job market just got flooded with people with her exact skillset, to the point where those places retaining those laborers pay 50% what they were previously in wages. The odds of factory work are low. If she had better options through networking etc she probably wouldn't be going into massive debt that included the possibility of a life of slavery just to land that job and training, would she?

It's also your responsibility.

>>31053099

Nah, this one is coming close to the end.
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>>31053120
>Assuming a 40-hour work week
Why would you assume that? Mixing "brothel" and "vacation" would give an option worse than both.
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>>31053074
Please don't ever post quest-relevant information outside of the threads.
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>>31053083
>>31053136

I would assume a brothel runs from 20:00 until 02:00, and that's six hours a day, but everyone here is running on assumptions and that isn't healthy. Shekels of Fate, can you give us some expected hours for our potential wage earners?
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>>31053029
Sounds like a vacation from the inevitable. There's a glut of enchanters on the market right now (see the info post's information about factory enchanters) so I doubt she's going to find anything to do this week.
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>>31053158

Variable.
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>>31053134
>Cass doesn't have prospects right now
Thought so. Hope the rest read this.
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>>31053134
Okay, my vote is back to whoring.

Honestly, people trying to keep her out of the brothel are just going against all sense at this point. Sure, it would be nice to be all generous with her, but slaves are only worth the wealth they can generate and we're not on too solid financial ground either.
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>>31053120
Dalt has at least some training in a craft
and we need to sell one or two of them,
because we lack space for 5 people.
>>31052713
Sell Etrius, and have Cassandra look for a
job opportunity, or she can work on us for the week.
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>>31053182
So... Any chance of an update?
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>all this white knight waifufaggotry
>in the first damn thread
Has to be some kind of record.
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>>31053204
Be patient faggot.
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>>31053220
Weird too, since Valyria is clearly the better waif of the two.
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>>31053203
>or she can work on us for a week
Seems like a waste. Our main concern is our own debt hanging over our head.
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>>31053203
Etrius also has training.

Seriously, look at this in the slightly longer-term:

>Etrius
>Your low-end price estimate at auction (without up to minute research): 40 Gold Florins
>Top Employment possibilities and wages: Heavy manual labor- 15 silver hourly (Market good), Factory grade craft work- 22 silver hourly (Market Okay), High end Glass work- 25 Silver Hourly (Commission based)

Even considering the -20% from glassware price drops, his commissions will be ~18s per hour.

>Dalt
>Your low-end price estimate at auction (without up to minute research): 50 Gold Florins
>Top Employment possibilities and wages: Heavy manual labor- 15 silver hourly (Market good), Apprentice level smithing- 12 silver hourly (Market Very Good)
Dalt's commissions are WAY less valuable, AND he's going to have a +5-10 gold sell price because of labor shortages; probably on the higher end because he's young and strong.

We're probably making an extra 20 gold from selling Dalt versus selling Etrius, AND Etrius has better long-term prospects.
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>>31053204

We're so far past the bump limit... nah.

She might be going into the brothel though, but I'll have to recount. I have zero clue why it's been made an issue in the first place given your characterization thus far and the setting, but I'm willing to play by democratic rules since it bumps the thread and promotes player discussion.
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>>31053238
We're playing as a female. The best option for personal services is clearly Dalt.
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>>31053203
>Dalt has at least some training in a craft
>Etrius has glasswork-training
>High end Glass work- 25 Silver Hourly
(Commission based)
Etrius is a glassworker, able to do high-end glasswork.
Did you forget that?
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>>31053220
Its more human resource management,
throwing a skilled labourer into a brothel for
her first week, just doesn't work in the long run.
If we had large capital and alot of slaves I would agree, but as it is we are better off not callously damaging them, which it would.
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>>31053256
Dude it's one fucking week. We'll manage.
>>31053275
You might want to hold a proper vote to prevent samefagging, then.
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>>31053275
>We're so far past the bump limit
We're on page 5. There's still at least 3 hours left in this thread.
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>>31053275
We're only on the fifth page, man. Finish the thread off properly.
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>>31053256
>>31053274
>>31053282

Actually yes, I did foorget that.
You are right. But selling Dalt is not an option anymore, and we need to sell at least one of them.
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>>31053318

True. But it is past midnight here and I'm somewhat worried people will drop off.
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>>31053274
Honestly I'm fine with selling both Etrius and Dalt for a quick profit that we can use to pay off our Contract of Indenture and reinvesting the remaining profits.
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>>31053288
She's semi-skilled. None of our slaves are truly skilled.
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>>31053355
Are you joking? This is the most active quest thread on /tg/ right now.
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Maybe we can give Cass one day or even just half a day to try to find alternative work, perhaps through someone she knows or even for us directly if she can show mus a useful skill.

That way we're only losing a single day's profit if she can't and can send her straight off to the brothel for the rest of the week.

>>31053275
>I have zero clue why it's been made an issue in the first place given your characterization thus far and the setting,
We're a conflicted slaver. Perhaps we see a bit of ourselves in her.
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>>31053355
I know I will be around for a while
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>>31053281
It's that why people blew up so hard at the idea of selling him?
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>>31053355
That's a stupid concern. You'll have enough players to run and any that miss out will just read the archive.

Guy, the last story post was more then half the thread ago, at least wrap it up with something quick.
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>>31053355
I'm good to go bro, lets keep this shit going ALL. DAY. LONG.

Heh, just kidding, but seriously I'm up for staying.
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>>31053355
>But it is past midnight here
Not everyone is in the same timezone as you are.
>worried people will drop off.
People already are dropping off, because you seem to be afraid of actually resolving this brothel issue.
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>>31053275
>We're so far past the bump limit... nah.
Doesn't matter, the thread has hours of life left. It's only page 5.

>I'm willing to play by democratic rules
Gonna have to do some actual final destination voting then. Shit is probably heavily samefagged at this point.

You do know how, right?

>>31053355
That's not looking like a major issue.
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>>31053388
She's not like us we should throw her in the brothel her only true skill is worthless right now just face it and stop preventing the thread from moving
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Fuck, I'll make this easy.

Evens Cassandra goes into the whore house, odds she doesn't because some sort of spirit of charity struck you.
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>>31053355
You should still end on a proper update. You don't need to end on a choice.

>>31053407
Yeah, honestly, all this chit-chat and not actual questing is going to kill the quest way harder than updating during the night time.
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>>31053441
really
fucking really
that's how you resolve this
a fucking coinflip
jesus fucking christ fuck you
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>>31053441
To the whore house with her then!
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>>31053365
Why? Both have cratmanship ability. One of them has a commission
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>>31053406
Much to the detriment of this quest.
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>>31053275
I understand less why its even a option.
Normally brothels wouldn't just hire someone
for a week, especially because of the risk of STD's.
And sending her into a brothel thats now likely frequented by the same guys who could have caught some in the others, seems like a
poor choice.
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>>31053480
This is a pretty reasonable point.
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>>31053459

You mad?
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>>31053441
We are truly an economic mastermind and a thrifty soul.
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Rolled 75

>>31053441
that's fucking dumb hold a timed vote
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>>31053441
Thank you about time we move on

>>31053459
Fuck off and get over it you people bitching about sending a worthless slave to the only place for her to make US money is fucking annoying. IT IS NOT A PERSON IT IS OUR PROPERTY
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>>31053506
Well that was a rather terrible way to end the entire discussion. Are you at least going to do a final update of the night?
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>>31053506
Just do a vote. Tell everyone to link to your post with '1' or '2' and nothing else with the numbers representing options. This prevents samefagging and is the most fair way to go about it.

You can do what you want obviously, but it's what's normally done around here.
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>>31053514
He kinda did, we still couldn't decide.
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>>31053480
>And sending her into a brothel thats now likely frequented by the same guys who could have caught some in the others, seems like a poor choice.
Because people can't correctly comprehend risk and are too enamored with quick profits.
They also think that the threat of suing the brothel for damages will be enough of a safety net to protect our investment.
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>>31053540
He means final destination voting ya dumb namefaggot.
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>>31053540
No he didn't.
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>>31053433
>She's not like us
She's gone through indentured servitude with the risk of becoming a slave and she's managed to get by with selling skilled work, just like us. She's even got elf blood.

>>31053480
>sending her into a brothel thats now likely frequented by the same guys who could have caught some in the others,
That's the low-class brothels, which isn't where we'd send her, and we could sue for damages anyway.
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>>31053506
do a fucking timed vote you retard, you owe us that after all this discussion
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>>31053275
brothel sucks for us as she is a well trained asset for a trained asset not in sex we just need to work harder to finder her a god job
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>>31053459
That's basically what it was up to. The fact is that we were never going to come to an agreement. I think he made the right decision.
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>>31053543
It doesn't mater we can get more damn slaves if it gets broken we throw it away and get a new one
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>>31053506
>>31053441
well thanks for wasting a couple hours of my time with pointless discussion you just renders useless, way to care about your players input
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>>31053540
"hay every one look at me I can't retain tings i red 5 minuets ago "

no that never happened
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>>31053573
The only job she is fucking trained for is flooded with people with the exact same training she is worthless in that field for now the brothel will be the only income she is good for.
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>>31053506
well done at being a colossal faggot and wasting all our time with this useless thread
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>>31053441
That's really not the easy way. That's the way to create shitstorms. There's a reason people said to do final destination voting repeatedly, it's the best solution to these kinds of problems.

Don't take it back now though, that'd only make it worse.
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>>31053573
Um no, she's a standard line worker at a factory that's had on the job training only. So skilled labor, but it's not like she has a college degree or anything.
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>>31053565
Except the low-class brothels are all out of business because their whores are all disease-ridden.
Well, more disease-ridden than usual.
>>31053577
It's not about coming to a decision, it's about finding a majority.
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>>31053578
Slaves cost money, and we only got these at such low prices because we gambled on an economic downturn activating a rider in their indenture contracts.

Look at how much money we have, compared to how much a slave is currently being auctioned for. Are you really making the argument that we could come out of this without a significant loss in assets?
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>>31053441
>Fuck, I'll make this easy.
you just made this messy and made everyone hate you, on both sides of the argument

well done you retard

just hold a final destination vote for fucks sake
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>>31053506
And now the quest fucking dies.

Too bad too, it was looking good at the start.
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>>31053565
If we find out fast enough, we are going to share a
small apartment for a while and we don't know how much that would even cover if we do sue them. the people who visited the low-class brothels didn't dissappear, some of them at least are going to go to the other ones.
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Where did everything go to shit that it turned out this way?

Why are the players mad at the QM? Why is the QM mad at the players?

Why did this have to happen to a good quest?
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>>31053634
Not even remotely true.
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>>31053635
indeed, a pity the QM had to go full retard and disregard all of his players, on both sides, just because he's too incompetent to hold a 5 minute timed vote
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>>31053645
I blame the namefag!
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>>31053514
>>31053537
>>31053555
>>31053557
>>31053573

>Gave you multiple chances to vote
>Gave you a long chance to hold reasonable discussions to persuade one another of things
>I should direct people from the thread elsewhere to some other thing that I have set up which
>People totally won't just whip out cell phones, proxies, and other devices to samefag, it's still gameable by the determined

Why wouldn't I just flip a coin at this point? And if you're going to act like fags because you didn't get your way when you had ample opportunity then leave, hide the thread and all future threads, and don't come back. I'm taking hours of my day to entertain you and am far less likely to continue doing so if you demonstrate the emotional maturity level of six year old autistic children throwing a tantrum over batman vs superman.
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>>31053506
yes
also fuck you you writing is middle school level. the poor attempt at an economy is child like at best but most of all your realization making is piss poor. and I want her in the brothel
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>>31053645
Because the QM is obviously a fucking retard.
Someone competent want to take over? This is an interesting concept.
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>>31053506
Congrats on killing your quest after discarding half a thread of discussion because you couldn't be bothered to care about your players input.
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>>31053628
When the cheap brothels are closes, their clients won't go to the expensive ones. They'll make do without whores, or settle for their wives for a change.

>>31053634
Not at all. Maybe there was a better solution, but I'm not grumbling at the coin flip.
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We've been told pretty much at every turn that "No she's not actually well-trained, no she can't find other work; brothel or idle." Fine, cool. Kind of shit, but what're you gonna do.

That said...
>-Job offer: Brothel, 100 silver an hour (50 plus tip is yours, the offer is obviously low-ball)
I'm mostly just mad that we're accepting the brothel's obvious lowball offer just because there was no second prospect.

She's a way more valuable asset than Valyria, and Valyria got a higher offer.

Wait one day, get a better offer from someone who's not going to fuck us over.
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>>31053659
So we've got the work orders set up, time to look into getting ourselves moved out into a better accommodation.
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>>31053659
>>I should direct people from the thread elsewhere to some other thing that I have set up which
wut

hold a timed vote you moron, its fucking simple, you say "reply with 1 for this option, and 2 for this option" and give it 5 minutes, bam, problem solved, you now have a very easy to sort vote and don't piss off all your players and kill your quest before the first thread is over
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>>31053659
no I will shit post every thread you have till you improve
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>>31053459
I reckon he wasn't really prepared to be the runner of a popular quest. Cut him some slack.

>>31053480
>I understand less why its even a option.
Probably because that's his fetish.
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>>31053659
I like the thread and hope you keep running it ignore the fucking idiots as you said they are mad because they didn't get it the way they wanted please continue.
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>>31053659
If you were gonna flip a coin, you should have done it hours ago, none of this indecisiveness.

It's true that people are being a little too butthurt though.
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>>31053664
>>31053666
>>31053679
Alright, so get the fuck out. You're not wanted here.
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>>31053659
Seconding >>31053702.
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>>31053702
So what kinda housing are we thinking here?

One big place for all of us? Or smaller homes for each slave and a place for our self?
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>>31053659
Holy shit dude.
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>>31053645
>Where did everything go to shit that it turned out this way?
He should have provided a lot more information from the get-go. He probably shouldn't have disappeared for a while like he did. And most importantly, he should have provided a final destination vote way back here:
>>31052238

>Why are the players mad at the QM?
Because after they argued something for half a thread, he just coinflipped it.
>Why is the QM mad at the players?
I dunno. Is he, even? Just seems to me like he's out of his depth.

>Why did this have to happen to a good quest?
Because the OP didn't know what he was doing.
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>>31053716
neither are you, so fuck off
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>>31053659
Fine, let's just get on with the quest. Next time do a final destination type vote, even if it's easy to samefag it's also easier to count up the votes.
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>>31053659
>if you're going to act like fags because you didn't get your way when you had ample opportunity then leave, hide the thread and all future threads, and don't come back.
This. OP, don't get mad, just keep doing what you're doing and let people who don't like it find a different quest.

I'm sure I'm not the only person who thinks you're doing a good job, so you won't run out of audience if you keep working to your current standard and don't give in to the complaints.
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>>31053684
>it's a lowball
She has no work experience in that industry, of course it's a lowball offer.
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>>31053729
I'm thinking something where we can have our own space, but still entertain, work, and keep at least our current amount of slaves under our watch. Get one of them to learn some domestic and bedroom skills. Hell hold an audition, whichever one of them impresses us the most in bed gets to sleep in it.
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>>31053666
>Someone competent want to take over? This is an interesting concept.
Go make your own quest if you know how it's done. I'd play both, if you're as good as you think you are.
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>>31053706
Wouldn't that just insentivize OP to ignore you?
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So after doing a foolz search, it turns out he's a Brothelquest tripfag.
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>>31053746
And you automatically accept it instead of trying to negotiate a better rate? Why, when we know that she is worth more, and with a shortage of prostitutes right now, it's a seller's market?
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>>31053659
fuck you nigger I take hours to read and follow your child like writing, add input an try to improve it then you just ignore every one? just make this a story thread and not a quest/cuoa if you want to write what ever you feel like go ahead just don't ask for input if you don't want it. also insulting people who want to participate will total help this.
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>>31053666
>Asking people to hijack a quest.

If you want to make a quest make your own thread.
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>>31053746
"Lowball" doesn't mean the same thing as "lower than our estimate". It means we're specifically being given an offer lower than what she's ACTUALLY WORTH because the buyer thinks we're either too dumb to realize it and will take the low price, or is only mildly interested in securing new help and is offering a lower number so that they get better value than they otherwise would if it were a seller's market.
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>>31053763
I'd support the spontaneous creation of a separate well run quest if >>31053666, Satan, is up for running it.
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>>31053766
yes. it will drop the bump order and get his shit posting off quicker.
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>>31053659
>>Gave you multiple chances to vote
This isn't a good thing. The only case where there should be an additional vote is to avoid samefag. Which you never fucking did.
>>Gave you a long chance to hold reasonable discussions to persuade one another of things
Yeah, but that was already more than enough by the time you got back from eating.
>>I should direct people from the thread elsewhere to some other thing that I have set up which
Literally nobody said this.
>>People totally won't just whip out cell phones, proxies, and other devices to samefag, it's still gameable by the determined
This is possible, but it's a hell of a lot better than what actually happened.

>Why wouldn't I just flip a coin at this point?
Because player agency, you thick-skulled dimwit.

>leave, hide the thread and all future threads, and don't come back.
You're certainly doing your part to make this look like the best option.

>you demonstrate the emotional maturity level of six year old autistic children throwing a tantrum
Stop calling the kettle a nigger, pot.
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>>31053714
>If you were gonna flip a coin, you should have done it hours ago, none of this indecisiveness.
No, the whole point is that we were asked what we wanted to do with the slaves. For the others, there was a rough majority. For Cass, there wasn't.

Dominique wasn't sure what to do, so she went with a hunch and decided Cass's dignity wasn't worth that much silver.
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>>31053788
>insults OP's writing
>is unable to capitalize, is nothing but run-on sentences, incorrect usage of punctuation
Really, now. At least make a modicum of effort.
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>>31053788
>child like writing

Maybe when you learn capitalization you can complain about his writing.
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>>31053761
Hmm, so probably what would make up a four bedroom house in this day and age? Dedicate one large room to their sleeping quarters, and have our own room. Then fill the last two rooms with whatever shit we want?
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>>31053666
I don't know how competent I am, but I'm down to give it a shot. I can only run for a few hours at this point though. Should I? I don't really have anything prepared. How much from this quest should I keep, what was the draw for you guys?
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>>31053810
Yeah, more options and more fun is a better option than derailing stopping everything.
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>>31053822
fuck off after 26 beers in the last 3 hours I am proud I can still make out the letters on my keyboard
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>>31053843
Make a new thread.
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Looks like OP won't write another story post. Wonder how many more replies the thread will get.
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>>31053659
Dude, your just making yourself look worse and worse, in your first fucking thread.

You should just end the thread right here and start the next one with a proper vote and not completely disregard player agency.
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>>31053774
>It's a sellers market
Sort of, a good number of brothel's also closed so all the remaining clean prostitutes are competing for a limited number of available positions. So the remaining brothels can charge whatever they want, but the girls they hire don't have as much leverage as you seem to expect.
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>>31053846
>Angry drunk
That explains a lot.
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>>31053816
That's what I meant?

For generally even split decisions, call a vote with either 1 or 2, or just flip a coin to save time. If you already wasted plenty of time, flipping a coin is kinda pointless.
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>>31053857
The OP hasn't been looking to make another story post since hours ago...

He literally wasted half the fucking thread just pissing in his mouth and then setting himself on fire.
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>>31053854
Sure, I'm composing an OP for it now. Requests/feedback in the meanwhile.
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>>31053846
So you're a drunk, posting childish and obviously terribly put-together posts. That explains a lot.
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>>31053843
>we're a female elf
>we're business-savvy
>lewdness is possible in the future
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You know what? Nah. I have literally zero incentive to run this over doing something else. I can literally do anything else with my time, this was mostly just because I enjoy having fun if other people are having fun too, collaborative experience and all that. It was an interesting experiment but I don't really care to continue it.

This is why you can't have nice things /tg/.
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>>31053886
lol just like OP
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>>31053889
Sasuga.
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>>31053889
kill your self fagot!
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>>31053889
Sorry you got discouraged by some idiots, good luck on future endeavors, and try to resist shitting up their threads so /tg/ stops spiraling the drain.
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>>31053889
Welp, guess we really do need someone else to run this Quest. Any takers? If not... I could try? I'll probably fuck it up, but I could try if nobody more qualified could do it.
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>>31053879
>literally
Your use of that word pisses me off more then it should.

>>31053889
Weird how other quests manage to run civilly.
It was your fault and your too proud to admit your mistake.

Well, have a good night. I had fun, so thanks for running while you did.
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>>31053889
Shut up, this was a pathetic excuse for a BrothelQuest knockoff. You are not QM material.
Go back to making terrible suggestions in other people's quests.
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>>31053900
At least his were properly punctuated and had correct capitalization.
You should drink more.
Really, just beer? Chug some shots.
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>>31053889
Why OP?

I'm sitting here and trying to continue onwards, discussing housing and whatnot, and your engaging the trolls and giving in to the vocal minority.

Why?
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>>31053889
As interesting as this was potentially, this is all it took to discourage you. Then good. Its better this way than later on when people are actually engaged and the OP storms off like the most colossal faggot

>pic related, what you've already passed
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>>31053889
Shackles, I get that this isn't fun anymore, but you didn't exactly handle this quest properly. I hope you learned something if you ever try to make another quest, but really? Get off your high horse.
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>>31053932
Holy shit, fuck off. You haven't been helping anything this entire time.

We don't like you.
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>>31053941
Pretty sure any learning opportunity is drowned out by his butthurt.
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>>31053889
Oh for fucks sake OP, I voted against sending Cass to the brothel originally, but accepted the coinflip, the least you could do is continue on, like you said, if people are angry with you or the quest, they can leave and find entertainment elsewhere, but for the love of god don't ragequit like them.

You really should have ended the thread before midnight like you said.

How about you call the thread closed for the night, and figure it out when everyone is thinking clearly and has a calmer head?
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>>31053843
>Should I?
Yes! Everybody has a first quest, so don't worry about it not being up to the standard of an experienced QM. You can get tips from QTG between threads.

>I don't really have anything prepared.
Make the setting open and be ready to improvise, and player creativity will be your friend.

>How much from this quest should I keep, what was the draw for you guys?
The lewd setting, the pragmatic protagonist, the risk of investment.

If you have enough inspiration now, start writing your OP. If you don't, make a new thread asking for more input, or ask on QTG.
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http://archive.foolz.us/tg/search/tripcode/15QOWkKT3Q/order/asc/

OP is in fact a faggot.
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>>31053957
Hey, I was trying to make good ideas to use our slaves, until I found out our Enchantress was buttfuck useless except for whoring or selling at this point.

I tried to be fucking productive and continue the quest, sue me.
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>>31053932
>I'll probably fuck it up

No, you will fuck it up.
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>>31053932
you can't do worse than OP he had a great idea

piss pore excitation just make votes harsh and money/finances less penny pinching and its all good.
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>>31053975
Turn off the name, faggot.
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>>31053889
Ah well. Good knight Shackles and best of luck in all your future endeavors.
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>>31053938
can't do shots they fuck my stomick and I puke blood, can drink beer all day every day though.
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>>31053932
Go for it, you'll at least have more balls than this pathetic weak excuse of a QM if he can't stick it out through this thread after making a call and failing to follow through on it.

All because of a coinflip Shackles, you do realise its all your fault right?
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>>31053992
Love you too Anon.
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>>31053889
Please read the constructive posts, like >>31053743 and >>31053968
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>>31053984
>pore excitation

We can still tell who you are drunkposter.
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>>31053997
Weak.
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Have I ever told you guys how much I love sucking dick?
Like, holy fuck, it's the best thing ever.
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>>31053997
Do it, faggot. If you can't drink those shots, then drink that beer. Just 26 beers? You can drink more than that. Come on, if you can still type the captcha then you're obviously still too sober.
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>>31053970
>>31053887
Which of these do you like better:
>Colonial theme, PC as formerly indentured servant in "new world" colonies, some minor wild west aspects

>Elf is rich investor taking beast race slaves for employ in elf homeland, potential for raids on one side of the sea and sales on the other

>Like this, elf is newly freed indent in established city
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>>31054028
Aaaand now people are getting childish. I apologized for going over the line earlier with my Good Sir, but this is childish.
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>>31054028
Not gonna lie, it's pretty awesome.
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>>31054032
>>Colonial theme

Wild West with pistols at high noon and shit. It'll be great.
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Well guys, look on the bright side. You've all participated in a thread that will be notorious on /tg/ for a few days.
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>>31054028
Yes you have DrunkAnon, but maybe you should ask if the reason you puke blood when drinking real liquor is because you fought something from all that cum you drink.
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>>31054029
captcha??? like I dident support 4 chan and buy a pass
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>>31054032
Why are you considering colonialism and raiding?
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>>31054065
Raiding for slaves is a good way to get em, I guess?
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>>31054058
That guy's too articulate to be the drunkposter.
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>>31053889
OP, take a step back, take a few deep breaths and calm down, refer to >>31053743 & >>31053968 and think through this rationally and don't engage the trolls and wade into the arguments.

Forget everything after asking whether you should continue after midnight existed, and start the next thread with a numbered vote, and continue from there, with a level head.

Don't let the emotions and vocal anons get to you, thats the worst you could do right now, especially after everything was going so well, it seems like your an entirely different person after coming back from that AFK, none of this makes sense.
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>>31054008
Honestly if this measly little shitstorm is enough to run OP off I think its for the best. There was a much better way of doing the vote than he did.

But while the just rolling for the vote pissed me off I am even more pissed off he isn't continuing. Fine make a terrible QMing decision, whatever, move on and continue with the thread. Don't rage quit because you pissed people off.
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>>31054065
It just seems like it'd be more realistic for slavery to be very profitable that way. Also this city setting is harder to work with.
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>>31054062
Then get to drinking, you weak-ass fuck!
Come on, get some more beer in you!
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>>31054032
I like the colonial.
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>>31054032
>>Like this, elf is newly freed indent in established city
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>>31054032
I like what we had in this thread, without the QM imploding.

No need to fuck it up and change the idea, just do this, and do it properly if this QM won't
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>>31054062
>Selling passes to drunks so they don't have to type the captcha

Moot you clever jew.
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>>31054032
Like this is the one I like most.

But add colonial aspects. What if our city is a hub for trade (including slave trade) to and from the new world? What if our city is one of the largest on the new world, and trade goes back towards the frontier and back to the old world?

I like bigger cities rather than small colonies and tropical rather than wild west. Maybe Spanish/Portuguese inspiration and a South America feel instead of North America? Empire of Brazil era? Colonial politics with Aztec tribes instead of American Indians?
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>>31054049

It's all kinda hilarious but sad at the same time.

He's obviously a competent QM. He was well-prepared for what he wanted to do, wrote legibly and clearly.

Too bad a bunch of underage faggots in their thread couldn't handle a simple QM fiat to get over a relatively unimportant decision without hassle in the first thread of the quest.
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>>31054032
>Elf is rich investor taking beast race slaves for employ in elf homeland, potential for raids on one side of the sea and sales on the other
If by 'beast race' you mean 'monstergirls' then holy shit yes.
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>>31054120
too bad a relatively 'competent' QM couldn't actually handle how to run a vote properly and not implode on himself
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I should add, I can fuse multiple elements and things together, don't be restrained by those three options.

>>31054108
It's not going to be identical no matter what.

>>31054119
This is more or less the direction I'm leaning.

>>31054123
Sure, why not.
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>>31054049
Shame QTG is down, we could be laughing about it right now.
>>31054120
You're not fooling anyone, OP.
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>>31054123
As long as it's not fucking Kajit and Argonians.
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>>31054083
>I am even more pissed off he isn't continuing.
OP was winding down this thread anyway. A ragequit isn't confirmed. I'll be looking out for part two on the catalog.
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Good on you OP. Questers are some of the biggest faggots that post on this board, and if more QMs refused to cater to them or hung it up when their faggotry got too far out of line they would learn to tone it down or go sperg elsewhere. QTG posters are even worse than regular quest goers in that respect.
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>>31054120
He certainly was, its just a shame he couldn't deal with people getting pissed off and had to rage quit over people being justifiably pissed by some diam fiat. If he continues I am more than up for it regardless if I'm irritated. but I am more upset that he ragequit. It looks bad, really bad.
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>>31054140
>Shame QTG is down
Then start one up.
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>>31054116
DrunkAnon needs to stop being a pussy and get some shots in him. Preferably straight from the bottle.
He's still able to type, so he should go drive to any liquor store still open to get that whiskey.
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>>31054139
If we do get monstergirls and shit, can we also have the normal beastmen too? Also what about other fantasy races, like Goblins, Orcs, even Dwarves? Just wondering.
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>>31054120
its almost like nether of you has been her before.
is what happens you need ringed structure to make these work . and the temperament to ride out shit posters op had not this so he failed.

its like real life gotta have good ideas and deal with idiots op had half that.
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>>31054120
>Too bad a bunch of underage faggots
Drunk, not underage. Drunk and posting with passes.
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>>31054151
Ya know that is a good point. I hadn't thought about that. I'll keep an eye out too, because if he didn't ragequit than I actually have respect for him.
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>>31054166
Sure, all that's in. One thing I remember from Brothel Quest is that diverse underlings are cool.
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>>31054137

>if the QM doesn't hold a vote he's incompetent

Hey, guess what? He's the QM. What he says, goes.
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>>31054179
Awesome, I wonder how much we can get for Goblin or things like Kobolds at Brothels... Humans will fuck anything, no matter how disgusting.
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>>31054169
Come on, did you stop drinking?
Drink some more, faggot. Obviously you need to start hitting the whiskey and hard spirits now since you're too slow with the beer.
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>>31054175
I honestly hope he cools down and takes a day or two to let anon cool down before starting the next thread and continuing on, and not let this effect him or the quest, it would be a shame after it was going so well and so enjoyable for such a minor thing to kill it.
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>>31054169
>its like real life gotta have good ideas and deal with idiots op had half that.

While your literacy or your sobriety requires improvement, you make an excellent point.
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>>31054179
Lets keep with standard fantasy races, Elfs, Dwarfs, Halflings and such. Adding Beastmen and
Monstergirls just invites a special kind of faggotry.
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>>31054170
And needs to drink something harder than some weak-ass beer that let's him still post.
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>>31054192
This is the kind of poster you want to ignore.
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>>31054123
>>31054139
If we're having monstergirls, mix them in with regular monsters too. Don't make it just Monster Girl Quest plus slavery. Have dragons in the wilderness, minotaur slaves for labor and lamia slaves for whatever people do with lamia.

Would it ruin the concept if we weren't an elf ourselves? If we're doing monstergirls we've got tons of options, as well as human.

This is something that could be discussed and voted on in a planning thread or a QTG.
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>>31054187
stop putting words in my mouth anon, I said he couldn't handle how to run a vote, not that he didn't, he had 2 votes and a lot of discussion and still couldnt see consensus, and if it was that equally divergent, then he should have just put the issue to the side and continued and bring it up at a later point
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>>31054179
Please don't listen to the namefag. Standard races are fine.
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>>31054211
Hey, why aren't you drinking more? You should drink more.
Maybe if you ate some bread, you could drink some shots without the problem with your stomach. You should try it; it worked wonders for me.
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>>31053889
>I enjoy having fun if other people are having fun too, collaborative experience and all that

And we were having fun too, until you ragequit because of a minor argument.
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>>31054205
Dude, come on, it's /tg/, you and I both know at some point you've been sexually attracted to a female Goblin.
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>>31054221
I'm not going to get all D&D about it. I already decided on a setting.
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>>31054158
If OP vanishes, the lesson is QMs are easily trolled and actual good questers should never get involved or attached, because the whiners are going to drive the QMs off sooner or later.

QMs and contributing questers need to be on the same side, with the attitude of ignore and keep playing when confronted by this kind of thing.
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>>31054195
I do as well. But honestly if this is enough to put him off questing its probably for the best. Sometimes you will piss off players, getting pissed right back just escalates things
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>>31054158
Erfworld Quest when?
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>>31054246
I believe there have been two attempts to make an Erfworld Quest, but they never made it past a few Threads.
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>>31054238
So any ideas when you'll be running this?
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>>31054246

>me reviving Erfworld Quest

No.

>>31054258

We made it a few dozen threads or so actually iirc.
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>>31054211
You're still able to type intelligently, so you should still be able to go out and get some more alcohol.
Don't worry, you'll be fine. Maybe you can get some of the craft beers this time. They're more expensive, sure, but they do taste better.
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>>31054274
I'm not the drunk anon, anon...
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>>31054207
But if we're not an elf, it wouldn't be Elf Slaver Quest.
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>>31054264
When I'm done writing the OP. Five to ten minutes, probably.
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>>31054274
And make sure to drive. No taxis. Gotta save that money for the booze.
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>>31054161
>>31054175
>>31054195
Op was just angry and saying that currently he doesn't feel it's worth it. All he actually cancelled was a wrap-up of this thread. We'll see if he still feels that way by whether or not there's a next thread.
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>>31054290
You don't need to copy this quest exactly.
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>>31054286
Obviously not, since you're still able to capitalize.
So why aren't you drinking shots, then?
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>>31054303
I'm hoping he cools down and continues, cause this was fun and going places.

>>31054293
Looking forward to it, the more the merrier.
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>>31054298
Yes! Exactly! Don't worry, you'll be fine.
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>>31054204
>some weak-ass beer that let's him still post.
If you have a pass, you can drink whatever you like, and as long as you're conscious enough to slap a keyboard, you can post.
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>>31054308
because I used the last bottle of spirits in the house to burn out a massive funnel web nest
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>>31054332
Then go and get some more. It can't be too far to the store to get some more.
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>>31054290
It's going to be Slave Trade Quest. PC details will be voted on at some point after the intro.
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>>31054303
Hopefully thats the case and it was a total ragequite. I was still looking to the rest of the quest
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>>31054327
>as long as you're conscious enough to slap a keyboard
Which is what I'm referring to. Obviously if they can still click on the Send button, they haven't drunk enough.
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>>31054349
>chargen

Oh shit
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>>31054306
That's not the the point.
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>>31054357
I think you mean 'wasn't'
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>>31054349
>chargen
plsno
that was one thing OP got right
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>>31054349
no chargen pls
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>>31054376
>>31054357

I did in fact mean wasn't. My bad

>>31054303
Hopefully thats the case and it wasn't a total ragequite. I was still looking to the rest of the quest
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>>31054368
>>31054327
but i allout of money and beer can i just smoke weed?
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>>31054349
don't bother with chargen, just keep the cream blonde brown elf and continue without chargen
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>>31054370
>>31054383
>>31054391
It's not going to be an actual formal chargen, I'm just leaving details initially unclear. They're not needed to start with.
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>>31054416
As long as we're a profit-focussed brown elf, I'll be happy.
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>>31054400
No, of course not!
There must still be some alcohol.
Or maybe you can pawn weed for some spirits. Come on, surely you can drive to a friend's place to get some more alcohol.
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>>31050836
>sheer callousness
I think it's reasonable to assume the MC is a little calloused over the matter of slavery.

It's been a pretty horrible life so far, but she's done pretty well out of it, and at the end of the day, no-one forced them to sign those contracts.

These slaves are her property, as she was property. She worked hard and well and got herself out of it.

Hard-nosed, but fair, one imagines.
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>>31054433
cloe best elf
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>>31054412
You just want to avoid votes because you want the same as this quest has had.

You should vote for what you want, the same as everyone else, instead of trying to sneak it in as the default.

>>31054433
Brown was never decided on. OP said we looked like the OP pic but blonder.
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>>31054468
>Brown was never decided on. OP said we looked like the OP pic but blonder.
He discussed it later and it was fairly unnanimously agreed we looked like Cloe, Cream blonde brown elf
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>>31054468
It was later decide that we were brown though.
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>>31054461
>It's been a pretty horrible life so far,
She's had it pretty good really. Looked after till sixteen, then straight into skilled employment, and paid for herself before she's even 20.
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>>31054481
>>31054482
That wasn't a vote. The last OP said was light elf, with the indication it was open to change or remaining undefined.
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>>31054490

>indentured servant
>As you leave the exchange there is an extra swing in your step, which of course leads to Carl from accounting staring at you as you walk by. Carl from accounting stares at you a lot when he thinks you aren't looking, but today you don't even mind
>there is no HR department to complain to
>there is no quitting your job
>ever, unless you pay shit back first
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>>31051096
>sending Cass to the brothel would just make her damaged goods, and bring decreased profits in the long term
I'm not sure of the logic on this one.

She's unlikely to end up damaged, and even if she did, certainly not in ways that would affect her long term profitability as an enchanter.

The short term cash infusion would do much to set us up for the long term, though.
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>>31054507
>>31054482
>>31054481

What fucking quest has such poorly defined characters that the players can't even agree what they look like?

>inb4 hurr yur just from the meany qtg you meanface
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>>31054517
Someone else in her position would be a whore to keep free, or a slave and about to become one a whore, like Cassandra.

But she gets to be a high-earning secretary/PA.
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>>31054541
'damaged goods' refers to the ill-will gained by being dumped straight into the brothel without any attempt to make use of her skills.
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>>31054552
The QM told us what she looks like, some people just refused to accept it, like they refused to accept certain other decisions of the QM.
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>>31054552
Put simply: this one.
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>All criticism is bad!

This is the vibe I'm starting to get. Can you cock-hungry tripfags say anything bad about the QM, or are you too scared to appear to be like your bugaboo qtg?
>>
Things are underway:
>>31054593

Please don't mind my difficulties tripping.
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>>31054607
By the way I suck huge cocks. So huge.
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This thread is hilarious
I hope it starts a trend of economic slave trade quests
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>>31054852
I hope so too, that would be great.
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>>31054862
god dam undead taking all the slave jobs
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>>31054852
That would be the stupidest thing that could come from this thread. I want to see it happen.
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>>31054852
Nothing like a trendsetter.
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>>31054852
Just like that /d/ trap quest.
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>>31054904
Which /d/ trap quest? Which trend of quests following from it?
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>>31054998
There was a /d/ trap quest that was abandoned and there have been like five created afterwards that were all immediately abandoned too
This is in like the last three months, I think.
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>>31054998
Basically this guy made a trap quest with us as a trap and a sister that was a witch and abused us or something. A bunch of the players got angry with some of the decisions the QM made and in the end I believe it spawned four or five different trap quests.

It was pretty funny.
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>>31055018
>>31055039
If only they were on /tg/, I could have seen them.

Were any any good?
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>>31054137
>implying he didn't do it on purpose
I refuse to believe that this isn't all an elaborate troll. Especially when one considers the chosen subject matter of the quest.

Dude was literally looking for any excuse to pull the trigger.
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>>31055042
At least one of them read like the QM was jerking off while writing it on his phone
(one of them I read was acceptable writing quality but got abandoned fast and was too /d/ for me)
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>>31055059
Oh hell, since you bring it up it actually sounds believable. I'm not sure how to feel now,
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>>31055042
You may have luck looking in the /d/ archive (https://loveisover.me/d/). Unlike /tg/ not all of them had 'quest' in the title, some had CYOA and some had no title.

I actually have a pastebin of one of the better ones: http://pastebin.com/3em3nW54

It was abandoned soon after though.
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>>31055059

>write up posts on /tg/ for hours
>invest time and effort into crafting something elaborate
>deliberately fuck it up just to troll

No. That's just a way for fags looking to shed the blame to do so.
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>>31055085
>>31055093
Great, I didn't know /d/ has an archive!

I wonder if /tg/ quests last longer, of if simple statistics means /tg/ gets more longer ones.
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>>31055108
Kiku runs quests fairly regularly when he's not on a ship.
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>>31055059
You know, maybe. Not even a days investment in time to cause a big stir? I'd probably be giggling myself silly working up so many anons.
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>>31055147
>I'd probably be giggling myself silly working up so many anons.
Let me know how it feels when you've done a "troll" this successful.
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>ITT: anons demonstrate why they can't find irl groups
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>>31055272
Because they want to run Elf Slaver quests?
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>>31055272
Because they can't decide who to sell into slavery?
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>>31053889
I just voke up and look through this. It was amusing.

It is a shame that you are not an experienced quest player/master. You could just do a quotes only vote and this whole thing wouldn't go to shit like this.
Also if you had simply ignored that anon instead of replying with you mad would be much more productive.


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