I believe we were heading back to the tower, since it was getting late. So let's do that.

>>24436538
we head back to the tower like we planned last time, but now we feel good about our selves having rung the bell.

>>24436538
fuck yeah, bfq!

for the moment, let's head home.

What the next time skip planed, if there any? and what's the current status with Pierre?

>>24436538
go home we got projects to work on.

You head back out of the cave. You may not have gotten a lot done, but you got some answers, and got to have fun chatting to Carl, who feels equal parts wise grandfather and cool uncle when you talk to him. Plus, you got to ring those bells, which makes you feel pretty fantastic about yourself. After being forced to confront the various things you've been neglecting lately, it's good to have some validation for the time you spent advancing your physical augments in the past couple weeks.

You set out into the dark city-school, trying to soar across the rooftops.

Roll Body to get quickly and safely back home. You get a +3 for Strength, a +3 for Speed, and a +2 for Coordination. I'll consider the first twelve linked 1d100 rolls.

Also, some people have asked if Stamina is a valid augment. It is. It affects everything from athletic endurance to poison resistance.

Rolled 84

>>24436686

Rolled 64

>>24436686

Rolled 12

>>24436686

Rolled 19

>>24436686
>1

Rolled 5

>>24436686

Rolled 32

>>24436686
>ones. We can't walk straight

Rolled 9

>>24436686

Rolled 19

>>24436686

Rolled 94

>>24436686

Rolled 84

>>24436686

Rolled 9

>>24436686

Rolled 79

>>24436686

Rolled 80

>>24436686
1s for the 1 throne

Rolled 31

>>24436705
>>24436751
>>24436753
>>24436764
nice

>>24436686
Can we go to the bolt hole before we go home?

>>24436705
>>24436751
>>24436753
>>24436764
You get a much better run in on your way back than you did on the way over. You soar across the dark rooftops, even taking on tricky but time-saving leaps and obstacles. You coast on in to your tower at a slow jog when you reach it, finding the entrance empty. Your daughters should be asleep - they'll be in trouble if they aren't - and Liz might be too with how late it is. You might get her in trouble if she's still awake too, since she's been pulling too many all-nighters on her spirit forge.

What do you do now?

Rolled 5

>>24436810
Study Sorcery.

>>24436810
stealthily check on liz and the girls

Rolled 58

>>24436679
What are we planning to achieve ? I suggest we get an update on the Himalayan camp.

Then maybe order some books regarding psychology and manipulation for our and our big daughter profit.

Rolled 34

Can't remember if we already told mom she is a grandmother again.

Rolled 32

>>24436882
Good point, can we sent her the pictures of Alison we took?

>>24436831
>>24436852
>>24436882
>>24436935
why are you still rolling?

>>24436810
mind Drill we got a good outline but it requires much work

>>24436831
NO thats what frenchey is for fi you want to study sorcery call in his debt

>>24436810
Check on everyone, then do some sorcery studying if everything's okay.

>>24437053
>>24436831
no. see >>24437022

we should talk to dad about the ecosystem and what happens when we die

>>24437200
I support trying to see where we are about our ecosystem thing.

You decide to check in on all of your girls. You find your daughters asleep in their rooms. Alison is asleep in her crib, snuggling her dragon plushie under her UV lamp. Selene is sprawled out with Fap resting on her chest, but her blanket is on the floor and her lamp is off. You tuck her in, give her a kiss, and turn her lamp on to help make sure she won't be groggy in the morning.

You head to the bedroom, half-expecting to find it empty with Liz busy at work in the basement, but you find her lying in bed, fast asleep with an open book on her chest. You tuck her in too, setting aside the book with a bookmark for when she wakes up.

With that done, you text your mom to tell her that Alison has hatched and is doing just great, along with sending her the pictures that you've already started snapping today.

What do you do now?

>>24437200
this is good too chat about the ecosystem then about death and dying

life and death talk I like the blance

>>24437265
>>24437200
this please

>>24437265
spirit ecosystem

>>24437265
>>24437200
this

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>>24437200
>>24437267
I support these actions

>>24437267
>>24437279
>>24437293
Fine, but can we at least be careful in how we ask, he was very reluctant to talk about it before, and just blundering into demanding he answer our questions about it will not make him happy.

>>24437303
of coarse.

You head up to where your dad is still working on gathering spirits for the ecosystem. They're more than half-collected at this point, bundled up in stasis in a cardboard box in the inbound room. It's far from the most sophisticated setup, but it doesn't really need to be when it comes to the storage. Most of these spirits are mindless and wouldn't be of any risk even if they stopped being held in stasis.

"Hey, Max," your dad says, looking up as you enter. There's a small pile of temporary foci in the circle. He's probably preparing to get another spirit, pre-planned and carefully chosen, same as all the others. "Are you here to lend a hand, ask a question, or just hang out with your dad?"

What do you say?

>>24437503
Definitely lend a hand.
Ask about the spiritual ecosystem, and see if our soul can be put to the use of steering the conversation to our mortality.

>>24437503
For starters, let's help.
Ask if he is done with planning the summoning of the more complexe spirits (the solar one for instance).

>>24437503
>Lend a hand, then I do have some questions to ask

>>24437503
>Are you here to lend a hand & hang out with your dad

Hey dad i wanted to help you on this but have been kind of distracted.

>>24437503
All three I'd say.

>>24437503
some of all 3

>>24437503
Lend a hand first, we can talk afterwards.

"Helping for now," you say, sitting down next to him. "Questions later. Quality time with my dad the whole time."

"That's what I like to hear," he says, grinning at you. "Go ahead and give me a hand with this. I set aside some additional foci in case you or Lunch wanted to help me out. You might need to grab this one too. It's not dangerous, but it likes to hide and is good at burrowing."

Roll Samyaza's Conjuration. He gets a +1 from Max helping him, a +5 from temporary foci, and a +5 from the permanent foci that he and Lunch built into the inbound circle for summoning and teleportation in the past two weeks. A strain-mitigation focus will be used. I'll consider the first fifteen linked 1d100 rolls.

Rolled 99

>>24437686

Rolled 51

>>24437686
spirit fishing with dad

Rolled 2

>>24437686
Rolling.

Rolled 51

>>24437686
>fifteen linked 1d100 rolls.

Unless we are summoning Satan, we will ace this

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>>24437686

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>>24437686
Rolling.

Rolled 4

>>24437686

Rolled 58

>>24437686
nat 1

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>>24437686

>>24437714
>we will ace this
You jinxed it.

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>>24437686

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>>24437686

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>>24437686

Rolled 37

>>24437686
Rolling again.

Rolled 68

>>24437686
Hail satan!

Rolled 87

>>24437686
>Lunch actually making foci
Well tickle my asshole and color me surprised!

Rolled 10

>>24437686

>>24437760
Lunch has made plenty of foci, she's responsible for the pile of group foci in the tower.

>>24437694
>>24437723
>>24437732
>>24437742
>>24437760
5/15

>>24437783
Max and LL made most of those

>>24437694
>>24437723
>>24437732
>>24437742
>>24437760
With an anticlimactic lack of, well, anything, really, something that looks like a brown, segmented worm covered in a hairy, hard carapace with a toothy mouth at the end sort of unfolds itself from thin air. It immediately starts darting away from the circle. Your dad makes a startled yell, and you lunge to grab it before it can get away.

Roll Body. You get a +3 for Speed, a +2 for Coordination, and a +1 for being warned this might happen. I'll consider the first ten linked 1d100 rolls.

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>>24437818

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>>24437818

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>>24437818
Good thing Max has experience grabbing phallic objects.

Rolled 34

>>24437818
>1

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>>24437818
grab that Pokemon

Rolled 15

>>24437783
>pile of group foci in the tower
The only group foci we know exist for sure are the the 1 drain foci^2 Lunch made the one max maid and the 3 boost L&L&Max made in class and possibly Max's strain basic transmutation
and these. I bet there are others off camera but fucked if i know what or how many.

Rolled 76

>>24437818
catch it

Rolled 27

>>24437818
Worm wrangler!

Rolled 32

>>24437818
hold tight

Rolled 19

>>24437818

Rolled 99

>>24437818

Rolled 9

>>24437849
>>24437868
2/10

>>24437849
>>24437868
You snatch the little bastard off the ground before it can get away, being careful not to accidentally crush it in your hand. Your dad comes over with a pre-prepared stasis band - which is just a rubber band with certain binding and dormancy wards built into it - and puts it quickly and with very little fuss around it. As soon as the band snaps on, the spirit goes limp, curling up into a little ball. You put it in the big cardboard box with the others.

"Perfect," your dad says happily. "I'm glad you were here to help. So, what did you want to talk about?"

What do you say?

>>24438049
"What kind of spirit was that?

>>24438049
the conversation we started on Halloween ... what happens when I die?

>>24438049
this >>24438070

>>24438049
What you said about Hell before... I'm ready to hear the rest

>>24438069
Also this

"Have you thought of visiting Liz's parents some night? I could use them being more...perverted."

>>24438159
no save it for the fan-fic

>>24438085
this

>>24438159
What?
I don't see how he could make them perverted, assuming Dad even goes for it

>>24438177
Did you miss the part where our father has pro-skills at both actual rape and mind-rape

>>24438177
>I don't see how he could make them perverted, assuming Dad even goes for it
>can't see how a master of Mind magic could change someone's mind
really?

>>24438190
Okay, i don't see how he could do it better than we can. i thought people thought he had Incubus corruption powers or something.
Everything he can do, we can do too

>>24438212
he has five years of experience and knowledge that we don't

>>24438229
More like possibly over six-thousand in general.

>>24438229
Changing someones mind when he has absolutely no defenses against it is not that hard

"What kind of spirit was that?" you ask.

"Scavenger spirit," he says. "Consumes detritus from fragments of other spirits, its waste energy feeds Earth spirits. It's mostly just to make sure that predator spirits don't leave waste around when it could be going towards the ecosystem's health."

"Oh, cool," you say. "So, what you mentioned on Halloween, about me dying and Hell and stuff. I'm interested in hearing more."

Sadness almost instantly touches the corners of your dad's eyes. "Okay," he says, though. "Come on up to the sitting room. It will be more comfortable there, and this will probably be a long talk. I imagine you have a lot of questions."

The two of you head on up and take a seat. He takes a deep breath and begins. "So, before you ask anything, I just want to provide you with some very important context. Humans and spirits didn't used to die. They were timeless, ageless, unharrassed by infirmity or injury. That was the first thing that YHWH broke the first time humans disobeyed Him. It was as punishment, bringing them down to the level of mere animals, doomed to age, take ill, be crippled, and die. That's not how it was supposed to work, and that colors everything that follows. So, what do you want to know, then?"

What do you ask?

>>24438243
This is a dumb idea, anyway. Liz will fucking hate us for doing it, so there's no point in trying. We don't need them to like us.

>>24438159
Let's not. Liz would definitely not appreciate that.

>>24438249
Make it clear to him before we continue that we are ASKING, not ordering by way of the blood bond. If he really doesn't want to talk about it, we won't force him.

>>24438249
"I'm not even going to put specifics on what may happen to Liz for the sake of my sanity, but...is there anything I would be able to do about that when I get there?"

>>24438249
What happens to souls when they reach an afterlife. We've summoned up a ghost before, so we've met a soul, and it seemed confused and broken more than anything else. Does everyone end up like that in the afterlife?

>>24438267

Yeah, I feel this is a good idea. I second it.

"That was part of the whole eating of the tree of life and death thing? Getting kicked out of Eden?"

Then specifically ask 1)if we have a true name, 2) where our soul will end up when we die, and 3) Is hell the fire-and-brimstone thing you hear about in sermons and cartoons?

>>24438274
I thought we'd already figured out means of keeping Liz from dying. Immortality, or at the very least, ridiculously long lifespans, aren't impossible to magic up.

>>24438326
Lotus secrets. She can't use them.

Also ask what the deal with halos was / is.

>>24438249
give me the setup by step please I didn't really follow religion...its not like I plan on dying...like ever but yea

>>24438326
>>24438333
She could come up with a spell to lifeleach life energy from other people.

>>24438267
this
and>>24438319
als>>24438307

>>24438336
Yes. Also curious about halos.

>>24438333
To be honest I don't understand how anyone would ever know if we told Liz our Lotus secrets until a long time after the fact.

>>24438326
Yes we do have a plan. But unlike our own near immorality we need to master Living alchemy to do it to her as opposed to our-self and we aren't allowed to teach her how to do it for herself.

On top of that we plan to make us both live even longer than reduced aging augs allow, by using living alchemy to make both of us new bodies when we get old and then transfer our minds and souls but that has lots more risk than reduced aging so we plan to combine them. We also want to let her get her own method if possible.

"That was the fall from paradise, then?" you ask. "Getting kicked out of Eden?"

"That was allegory," he says, "But yes. It was for questioning his motives, seeking outside knowledge, trying to slip the leash. It seemed so innocent, especially to use, the beginning of the Grigori, and his reaction... He killed you. All of you. It may come slowly, over the course of a life, but every last human who's ever died was killed by that decision of his."

"So, where does my soul end up when I die, then?" you ask.

"Purgatory," he says sadly. "The system was never designed to handle spirits the size of a human soul. They sit in the realm of Purgatory until all of the memories, the personality, the everything slowly slips away, until all that's left is the soul, a mote of energy and spiritual matter. Once they're clean and ready, one of Heaven's psychopomps brings it to Heaven which is... Well, it's where souls return. This is hard to explain."

He pauses for a moment.

"All souls - human souls, animal souls, start as a fragment split off from YHWH, sent out to being energy back to Him. Animal souls were supposed to grow big, then come back to get reabsorbed. Human souls were supposed to grow big, then send energy to Heaven through worship. It was a great experiment, something new. After being broken, well, now they do both. Give worship in life, and get reabsorbed in death."

What do you say or ask in response to that?

>>24438405
>a long time after the fact.
at witch point Carl cat punches us.
Plus Carl is a master mind reader and an archmage. and one of the 2 commands he ever gave us was to keep lotus secrets in lotus.

>>24438424
"And what of hell? You said if I was lucky, I would go there."

>>24438424
>>24438446
this

>>24438424

"Was the worship from humans meant to supplant the soulstuff spent to create their souls? Or is there just an infinite amount of YHWH?

Also, it seems like God chilled out a lot between the Old Testament and the New Testament. Did the whole 'son of God' thing chill him out some?"

Also ask >>24438446 .

>>24438446
yea this one

>>24438446
Uncle Lucy! :3

>>24438424
"So it's like some kind of...hybrid of all the big religions that speak of afterlife, then. There is an afterlife, but it's more like a...fermenting tank. Huh. I guess humans picked and chose what parts they liked to hear and we got what we have today?"

"So getting to hell is escaping with my memories to a place outside of YHWH's influence or something? Could I find the others, like Liz, and bring them with me, or would I get in trouble for that?"

Wait. Are Incubi and Succubi the humans who defied the change to mortality? That would explain a whole lot. Also, incredibly ironic when looking at societies like DD and MM. Heh.

>>24438499
No, they are the angels that rebeled

>>24438499
At this point, if things are implied like how I think they're implied, getting sent to hell would actually be a blessing in disguise. It seems DD's methods go against their intentions. If they wanted to really threaten souls of the damned, they'd either manually destroy their souls, or, like MM, deny them release into Hell.

"What about Hell?" you ask. "You said that's where I would end up if I was lucky."

"Hell was the Rebellion's answer to the Purgatory problem," he says, still clearly sad. "The Morningstar carved out a new realm, far from YHWH's influence, with the help of his follower-brothers, myself included. We couldn't bear how he treated the angels, and then to top it off what he did to humans... 'Better to rule in Hell than serve in Heaven.' So, we tried to make our own society, the free city of Limbo in the first circle. We would snatch souls from Purgatory, ones that still had their memories. Doubting ones that wouldn't try to resist us to get back to YHWH. It was the afterlife mirror of our projects in the physical world, the sister city to Sodom and Gomorrah."

"And the worship, that was..."

"That was how YHWH intended to recover the cost of making the souls. They were like... Upgraded versions of animal souls. Instead of growing big and then being reabsorbed, they would grow big and then give off a steady stream of energy to be recollected. Big investment for an eternal, steady gain. That was the theory back then, anyway. Hell, that original design is why spirits like you and me can feed off of humans - they designed to squirt out their essence."

What do you say or ask in response to that?

>>24438516
Doi. Slipped my mind completely.

>>24438531

Wait, wait, Sodom and Gomorrah? The ones that God called down the thunder and lighting on?

Man, Grandpa used to be a dick back in the day.

>>24438531
"What is DD and MM version of the story about this? I doubt they would have that attitude if they heard this."

>>24438531
"Does magic function in the afterlife? If I complete the memory reconstruction variant of Lin's mind drill, I could save Liz and whomever else and repair whatever damage death did to them."

"Oh, uh, speaking of Lin, what the hell is up with her? Glitch in the system? Result of an ancient deviant mastermind? I'm curious as to if she ended up that way through some really, really ancient trickery or if YHWH made a goof on her soul."

>>24438531
what happened to Limbo?

>>24438531
Oh, hey, minor distraction from the main topic. Was that Dante guy telling a true story or just having fun extrapolating fiction on Christianity?

>>24438579
>>24438585
Second.

>>24438531
what about people or places that aren't Abrahamic like japan and shinto?

>>24438619
It seems all afterlife-focused religions are different derivatives are details of the whole system. Reincarnation cycle, heaven and hell, nirvana, it all seems to fit somewhere in the big puzzle.

>>24438531
"Sounds like a nice place, at the least nicer than having your memories degrade and your sould reabsorbed by YHWH. Shame that your PR department is terrible.

So when I fuck someone and drain them essentially they're worshipping me very intensely for a period of time, it may seem somewhat monomaniacal but I do like the sound of that."

And these questions >>24438579 and >>24438585

>>24438646
I mean megalomaniacal, not monomaniacal.

>>24438670
It seems like we're basically cutting out the middle-man. I would assume YHWH fed energy to his angels after absorbing it from worship.

The only reason he'd be doing any of this is because he is, in fact, not of infinite potential. A scary proposition. Despite his apparent frustration an distaste for the free will of humans, he's forced to make sure we thrive for his own existence. Man, if humans ever band together as one and threaten him with anything, we're looking at possibly the ultimate form of defiance of YHWH. Hypothetically, if all humans wished to go to Hell rather than Heaven, YHWH would be the one on the leash.

Also, this system makes getting to Hell harder than getting to Heaven. To get to heaven you'd literally only have to believe honestly that you don't want to get to hell, and nobody from Hell would bother trying to bring you to them. It's almost fucking comical.

"What's the Dextra Domini and Malleus Maleficarum version of this story?" you ask. "I can't believe that they would keep their attitude if they knew this."

"You've read the bible, right?" he asks sadly. "What I'm telling you is heresy. A few hundred years ago, mundane mortal institutions would burn people to death just for HEARING stories like this. Our version of the story is just starting to get known again, and even then, it mostly seems like just edgy adolescents who paint the Rebellion as the good guys."

"So, does magic function in the afterlife?" you ask.

"Yes," he says. "Assuming you don't lose too much of yourself in Purgatory, you can keep using it."

"What's up with Lin?" you ask.

"I don't know," your dad says, frowning. "In any of the systems I know, she should either stay dead forever or not get to keep any of her memories after reincarnating. A bribe paid to a psychopomp, maybe? A glitch in Samsara? The personal masterpiece of a brilliant archmage chasing immortality? I don't know."

"What about non-Abrahamic faiths?" you ask.

"They probably go through their own pantheon's system," he says, shrugging. "Nonbelievers seem to end up with whatever the dominant faith in their life was, even if they don't believe."

What else do you say or ask?

>>24438814

Ask about our true name. Do we have one? Can it be used against us? Should we start adopting a pseudonym so it remains a secret?

>>24438814
Ask him if reapers are a thing and how suicidal of an idea it would be to try to bind one.

>>24438814
"So hypothetically I could get into a different heaven if I really wanted to? That's nice."

>>24438814
so whats hell like? you got like a apartment there or something?

>>24438863

Personally I've always been a fan of the floating island of mandango

>>24438863
>That's nice
given how haven's work in this world no it is not

this >>24438846

>>24438850
And if her could put that on a scale of "one to wendigo farm"

>>24438814
"Hmm, so with the Mind Drill thing Lin worked on, and sufficient magic I might be able to keep my memories pretty much intact if I die, making sure that I'll get picked up by Uncle Lucy instead of Heaven. Though I'm not planning on dying, immortality of some kind isn't the hardest trick.

So, what is hell like anyways?

Do I have a true name? Is it different from the name I use on day to day stuff?"

>>24438886
seconding this

>>24438814
What's the quickest way to Hell? Would I maybe implant a beacon of some sort on my soul when I get really, really good at magic? It seems like a combination of Incubus spirit and distress signals would get their attention fairly quickly.

"Are there writers and musicians and stuff that know about this? It seems like a lot of bands and writers kind of skirt around this idea, or like to imply that the popular story isn't completely true. Makes for good music, in any case."

"Does YHWH care about mundane human morality, or does he only care when it starts going against his plans? I could see why he wouldn't appreciate murder at one point, but now that we all just eventually die anyway...yeah."

>>24438846
This. Ask him "if we don't know it, can anybody else know it?"

If someone else can dig it up, we should probably know it to take proactive measures. If not, leave it be.

>>24438907
>"Hmm, so with the Mind Drill thing Lin worked on, and sufficient magic I might be able to keep my memories pretty much intact if I die, making sure that I'll get picked up by Uncle Lucy instead of Heaven"

That's a VERY interesting idea anon, we should definetely reasearch this when we are trying to became immortal.

"So I could hypothetically get into a different Heaven if I really wanted to?" you ask.

"No," he says sadly. "You're bound up in my mythology. Unlike a full mortal, your choice was made for you before you were ever born. Your best option, at this point, is Hell."

"Do I have a true name?" you ask. "How would I find it out?"

"Yes," he says. "You're a spiritual being. You absolutely should have one. Our faith doesn't so much have a Celestial Bureaucracy, though, so it's probably not written down anywhere. We could probably ask a Fallen who was an Angel of Names to tell you yours, but knowing it is probably more of a weakness than a strength, unless you want to give someone power over you, or give you power over yourself."

"Speaking of summoning angels, are reapers real?" you ask. "Could we summon or bind one?"

"One of the Angels of Death?" he asks. "Sure. More of them joined the Rebellion than any other caste because they couldn't bear to take part in what had been done to humanity. Binding them is probably a dangerous idea, though. Safer to invite them and ask favors of them. Other faiths, though, we have... Less personal sway with. They could be even more dangerous for that reason."

What do you ask next?

>>24438814
Will I still be human when I die or will my complete conversion to spirit make me full incubus?

>>24438943
>He objects to reapers less than wendigos
Jesus fuck. Just how strong did you go and make wendigos in this setting?

>>24438943
Ask >>24438939 >>24438907

>>24438943
"Huh, I wonder if any Angels of Death would like to come over for tea some time, I'm sure they'd have a lovely time. I just like the mental image of sharing a cup of tea with a psychopomp.

What's hell like? Is it nice? Do you have any real estate down there?"

>>24438907
>Though I'm not planning on dying, immortality of some kind isn't the hardest trick.
A don't jinx it
B yes it is heard lotus just has easy access to a good life extension that is almost clinical immortality but not quite.

>>24438943
how can i keep Liz's soul safe if she dies?

>>24438943
So, what is Limbo like these days

>>24438943
ask this
>>24438926
>>24438886

>>24438967
Its probably just that reapers are sentient and he knows several of them, probably has friends amongst them and wendigos are ravenous beasts of significant power.

>>24438943
We should totally summon up an angel of death to get some blood for dryad #3

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>>24438980
First thing I thought of when thinking of just hanging out with and angel of death.

>>24439020
Dryad ingredients are locked in. As players, we can no longer change them, barring Femcock changing her mind.

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>>24438967
I think he objects to death spirits that aren't week about as much but we know some that are family we are on speaking terms with so we have an exception for them, also pic related.

>>24438943
"Does love and other strong emotional connections influence anything?"

"By the way, dad, I want you to know that you're actually taking quite a load off my mind. I don't want you to be sad about telling me the truth. It makes some of my grander goals in life have a clear solution."

"Heh. The term 'human condition' seems to be more literal than philosophers believe, isn't it? It really is like a disease inflicted on us. Oh, well, I'm only half-human, but I was raised human, so I tend to think like one."

>>24438967
Wendigos are like a terrible, purely evil manifestation of a very specific, mortal type of suffering. Reapers, Angels of Death, are spiritual beings that are apparently at least somewhat compassionate about the human condition. That and we have half our hand in their pocket, so to speak.

>>24439044
Reaper blood sure would be nice though...

I bet she could take on Wendi and not die immediately.

>>24439044
And we really should avoid that so the shitstorm doesn't start up again like last time.

>>24439020
i wonder what powers that would get her
i wonder how Reaper feed. Incubus and Succubus can drain people

>>24439020
I'd support it.

>>24439082
Reapers probably feed off of the energy of the dead and dying. The concept of mortality alone probably sustains them.

>>24439020
Then she could
>learn the word
>not dick
>fire heals her
>sorcerous as fuck
>whatever powers reaper blood gives.

Supports

Also, if the angel doesn't mind, I bet that blood would be the bribe of the century.

>>24439071
this is gold i second this hard.

>>24439110
She's an archmage, she could just summon one and take some blood from it

>>24438943
seconding >>24438976
>>24438987

>>24439132
She was happy as hell about the dryad seed and jotunn bonemeal.

I bet those are easier to get than reaper's blood.

>>24439132
she likes bribes and reaper blood is rare and hard to get
She would rather not work for it unless she had specific use for it.

>>24439132
I remember dad saying before that there were beings out there that could make most archmages their bitches without even trying.

So "she's an archmage" apparently doesn't mean doing whatever you want. Always a bigger fish and all that.

>>24439151
I don't think so
Reaper are spirits and can be summoned, jotunns are extinct.

>>24439110
I don't think they'd appreciate us using them as bartering tools. An angel of death is probably amazingly disconnected from human society.

>>24438967
>Strong
It's more intentions and morals.

>>24438943
"This seems like the kind of conversation that goes well with a strong, expensive, heavily aged scotch. We should pick up a couple bottles for next time."

>>24439218
>16 year old girl
Yeahhh, no.

Also,
>neckbeard's idea of what sophistication is

>>24438967
You can reason with the pilot of a tank, but you cant reason with a bear.

>>24439243
I cringed when people had Max order whiskey in the club. Just felt so out of character.

>>24439243
I'm not talking about sophistication, I'm talking about soothing the nerves. What do you consider a sophisticated booze for these kinds of talks, anyway?

"So, could I do something to keep my soul or Liz's soul safe and intact if we die?" you ask. "Long enough to get to Hell, that is."

"Pay off one of the fallen to be watching for you at the exact time that you're going to die. That option usually involves suicide, though. Maybe find a way to adapt Lin's mind drill into keeping your mind together while in Purgatory, but that might be... Unethical to test."

"Is Limbo nice?" you ask him. "Do you have, like, an apartment there, or something?"

"I might still have property there," he says, shrugging. "I haven't been back in nearly a thousand years. As for whether it's nice, well, yes, it is. It's the closest thing to the golden age of humanity left in existence. Its sister cities fell, but it just kept on thriving. Or, at least, that's how it was a thousand years ago."

"This is... Actually surprisingly taking a load off my mind," you say. "Giving me goals, things to consider, plans to think up. It's interesting. The 'human condition' is literal, isn't it? A condition afflicted on us."

"More or less," he agrees. "You were supposed to be immortal, timeless, pouring out essence like stars to YHWH's sun."

What else do you ask, if anything?

>>24439268
I red it as her being a try hard though the black coffee seems spot on character.

>>24439246
>>24439202
I get what you guys are saying, and I'm sure that's part of it.

But dad said "binding is probably dangerous". That's right, full on attacking them for the purpose of enslavement is just "probably dangerous", whereas asking about wendigos got a bunch of freaking out and saying it's a horrible idea, nuke it from orbit multiple times, etc. as a response.

>>24439268
Eh, like a teenage girl would know what to order her first time at the club. The cluelessness of the fa/tg/uys in this quest is quite in character sometimes.

>>24439287
What's the deal with halos? Were those a thing?

>>24439268
Fair enough, that was kinda dumb. I'm pretty terrible with boozes, anyway. I have no idea what spirits and liquors are appropriate for which occasions farther than beer and tequila for university parties.

>>24439287
When we get better at conjuration and can travel beyond the mortal realm reliably, we need to go with dad to check out Limbo.

Maybe set up a base of operations we can use if we die.

>>24439044
>barring dicks
FTFY

>>24439287
IS YHWH intervening on Earth?
Would he smite me with lightning or something if I started a religion that teaches that you should hope to get to hell or something?

>>24439110
We would still cum on her because of the sentimentality behind jizzing on our babies. That was the whole reason we came on Alison.

>>24439336
I think Dextra would go ahead and smite you themselves.

>>24439287
dose YAWH reincarnate human souls or dose he do something else?

what were Sodom and Gemora relay like?

>>24439336
MM would stop you dead in your tracks if you ever got big enough.

>>24439287
Give Dad a big hug.

"I love you Dad, thanks for clearing this up for me. I really appreciate it."

Then go see if Lin is still up, may as well say hi to her if she's up and about.

>>24439268
I felt like it was her trying to capture a portion of that lost masculinity of her. She may be a dickgirl instead of a guy, but dammit if she is gonna drink some fruity little club drink.

>>24439359
>dose
Does.

>YAWH
YHWH.

>Gemora
Gomorrah.

>relay
Really.

>>24439287
>"Maybe find a way to adapt Lin's mind drill into keeping your mind together while in Purgatory, but that might be... Unethical to test."

I'm assuming dad considers it unethical because of the danger of doing permanent damage to the soul. Would he still consider it unethical if it was a soul that was sure to go to heaven when its body died, and therefore would get devoured by YHWH anyway?

>>24439287
How do you pronounce YHWH?

>>24439334
I second that. I wonder if we could set up a sort of spiritual beacon in limbo tied to our souls, that will draw them in when Max or any of our other friends die who want to have an escape route.

>>24439296
2 points that was a passing part of the conversation this time not the whole thing and they are family and thus more predictable.

>>24439383
Most guys at a club drink beer if they want to be manly though, not whiskey.

>>24439402
Yahway, I believe

"Is YHWH intervening on Earth?" you ask. "I don't really see many examples of miracles."

"Not as far as I can tell," he says. "At least, I don't see any signs of it."

"Thanks for explaining all of this to me," you tell him, giving him a hug. "I mean, I don't think I can help being curious about how death works."

"I've yet to meet any mortal who isn't curious," he agrees.

What do you do now?

>>24439287
"Did he put humans on other planets too? Are there aliens?"

I can't believe no one asked that already.

>>24439402
Yahweh.

>>24439428
ask about >>24439334 and >>24439388

I'd kind of like Max to visit some other realms when she's got the skills to do so.

>>24439429
Even though its probably too late, can we ask this >>24439429?

It might help us deciding a place for our space Hogwarts.

>>24439428
I actually am kind of curious about the halos now.

>>24439336
Might as well ask this. It would be a good idea to know what he doesn't tolerate. We may not be on good terms with him, but the more he leaves us alone, the better. Aside from that, trying to forcibly and blatantly make the goal "get to hell" would not blow over well with, like, anyone. Even atheists and skeptics would write you off as crazy.

>>24439287
We might as well cut it off after the next round of questions.

"So I guess he has no interest in dealing with any mortal personally, does he? Seems like he sticks to world-wide influence and leaves the individuals to their own devices."

>>24439429
this is ok

>>24439428
Keep on hugging him for a while longer. Then tell him we love him, and wander off, see what Lin is up to and then check the time.

>>24439428
"That thing you said about binding a reaper being 'probably dangerous'. I'm not saying we should, just curious really.
When I asked about wendigos you really really didn't like the thought of dealing with them at all. I get that the angels of death would be family and not just mindless monsters, but this really makes me wonder about just how strong the different things in this world are."

>>24439428
"We're curious because we're still like to break the rules as much as ever." Keep hugging him for a while, and then go check on the rat we screwed with, check around the house, and maybe go chat with Lin for a while. She's up, isn't she? We should give her some screentime.

>>24439459
probably just the mundane explanation that is the Apollo sun disk being associated with Grandpas old imagery.

I wonder about the old wheels in wheels depictions of angels given how dad is.

>>24439461
You could make hell seem like the good option by revealing a part of the truth.
Oh, new reason to mindbreak Pierre: save him from heaven and get him into hell

>>24439501
He explained once that as he is now is much diminished from how he once was.

>>24439504
That's fine, but don't try and push that as the basis for doing strange things for him. Leave it as a side-effect, not the basis of our reasoning. I'm not against doing things to Pierre, by the way, I'm just saying that trying to use that as justification is asking for a shitstorm. Basing our actions on things like "saving people from heaven" is great way to come off as a pompous megalomaniac or a sociopath. Stick to the mortal and mundane for now.

>>24439481
Wendigos in real life are usually attributed to a guy going nuts in the middle of winter and eating his family. And Angel of Death is just a spiritual being like dad whose job was to shepherd the souls of the dead on to the next stage.

>>24439525
true that is likely it and this was once only a mask he now is bound to. But hearing it from him may be cool but likely to sad right now.

>>24439428
Keep helping him, that train us.

>>24439569
this has my vote.

>>24439428
Can we go to Limbo with magic, one day?
then continue helping him

>>24439558
And getting into a full-on fight with one of them was implied to be worse than the other.

>>24439417
Most guys aren't 16 year old girls with dicks.

>>24439603
I think because one of our uncles would let us run or surrender a wendigo would not if it had an choice not due to strength differences but tactics differences.

I'm not asking what you ask him next. That particular conversation finished. What do you do now? Continue helping him with the spirit ecosystem, study Sorcery, visit Lin, something else?

>>24439646
Spirit ecosystem

>>24439646

help him, this is father dick-daughter quality time.

>>24439646
Oh right, in that case, let's help him a little more with the ecosystem. I'd still like to ask him about the possibility of visiting some other realms (like Limbo) with him while we're still alive.

>>24439646
help him

>>24439646
I vote to visit Lin. She needs some attention. We haven't had an honest conversation with her for at least a couple-dozen threads.

>>24439608
Who had sex twice so far that night. Metaphorical fucks given at that point: 0.

>>24439646
Help him with the ecosystem, thank him for telling us all that despite it obviously being a difficult subject for him.

>>24439646
What time is it?

And visit Lin, we should spend some time with our awesome fuckbuddy.

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The talk of angels of death and psychopomps reminded me of Gunnerkrigg. How fun.

>>24439646
Help dad and learn after that go see Lin

>>24439669
>>24439689
I agree that we should visit Lin, but let's help dad for a little longer first, rather than just asking him a ton of difficult questions and then running off.

>>24439646
I second >>24439667

I want Max to have some awesome extraplanar adventures someday.

>>24439646
Help dad with the spirits

>>24439718
later

>>24439646
Help Dad some some, then hang out with Lin.

>>24439646
Help him. Learn a bit about the variety of spirits that exists.

>>24439646
help dad
We're training Conj. that way, right?

I don't think we're getting xp for this, guys.

>>24439787
Oh well, then it's just family bonding time, which is fine too.

>>24439787
We only have 2 boxes, I think we are

>>24439787
Or we could stop staring at our stats and enjoy the incoming FUN.

>>24439787
Depends on what we do. If we work on the ecology itself, it might be worthwhile. Just summoning a ton of mundane spirits won't do much, though.

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>>24439824
THE STATS ARE THE FUN

"I've got a few hours to spare," you tell your dad. "Let's try summoning a few more spirits."

Roll Samyaza's Conjuration. I'll consider the first fifteen linked 1d100 rolls. The number of successes is the number of spirits successfully summoned up and bound away in the next few hours.

Rolled 75

>>24439954
I SUMMON THEE!

Rolled 99

>>24439954
YES!

Rolled 72

>>24439954

Rolled 28

>>24439954
Conjuration ftw.

Rolled 52

>>24439954
No way there's 15 people here

Rolled 63

>>24439954

Rolled 32

>>24439954
SPIRIT ARMY.

Rolled 6

>>24439954

Rolled 71

>>24439954
how many spirits does he already have and how many does he need?

Rolled 75

>>24439954
rolling.

Rolled 28

>>24439954
Rollan

Rolled 42

>>24439954

Rolled 98

>>24439954

Rolled 62

>>24439954

Rolled 87

>>24439954
>Summon AoD

Rolled 1

>>24439954

Shoot, Fem, I've been meaning to ask. If our class drops in size to or below 32 people, does it become a simple "pass to advance" or do they enact other rules to eliminate more people? Also, how large is our class right now?

Rolled 67

>>24439954

>>24439959
>>24439961
>>24439967
>>24439984
>>24439986
>>24439993
>>24440001
Damn, that's amazing.

>>24440006
Thank god you're slow.

>>24440006
>number 16
safe

>>24439959
>>24439961
>>24439967
>>24439984
>>24439986
>>24439993
>>24440001
7 spirits oh yeah.

>>24440006
Roll 16. Suck it, dice.

We have 7/15, and barely dodged a Nat 1. I'm satisfied.

Rolled 62

>>24440001
>>24439993
>>24439986
>>24439984
>>24439967
>>24439961
>>24439959
7/15

>>24440006
>16th roll is a nat 1
The dice gods favour us today, quick, someone make sure we stay in their good graces by offering sexy asses.

>>24440033
>Roll 16. Suck it, dice.
No Snapple the dice gods smiled on us but warned us that they could have made us suffer praise the dice.

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>>24440045

Hey, guys, I realized yesterday that we probably already are compromised. If Liz is working with the Archmagi to become their apprentice, they've probably dug around in her head multiple times. In fact, they already have by trapping her in her head for a subjective week. If any of the archmagi are associated with DD or MM, and they poked in her memories at any time, they are already quite aware of us and possibly what we've done. I'm not saying it's been done, but it's a possibility, as far as I'm aware. If that's true, it might speak for the general neutrality of both societies on the whole if we haven't already been besieged by DD and MM. While Maria seems to have gotten some kind of politically-driven reaction, if they happen to know she and Kaoru are alive, and they really cared on any deeper level, I imagine some high-level mages from both sides would have done something by now. I'm putting my money on them taking a "regrettable but expendable" stance on the two first-circle girls. Maria has had her mind practically totally replaced, and Kaoru's has already been broken by whatever worm was in her head. They probably put no value on the two any more.

By the way, this is total speculation, and no, I'm not trying to taunt Fem into fucking with us.

>>24440163
SotA is their own thing. They aren't associated with all the Archmagi.

>>24439959
>>24439961
>>24439967
>>24439984
>>24439986
>>24439993
>>24440001
You put together more than half a dozen new summons in the next few hours as you and your dad work together on the spirit ecosystem project. Eventually, you head off, trying to find Lin, hoping she's not getting her hour of sleep right now. You find her in the sitting room, reading over class notes and text books.

"Hey, what's up, Max?" she asks as you enter.

It's late night, or perhaps early morning, right now.

What do you say?

>>24440187
Oh, well that explains it. I was wondering how no higher-ups from DD or MM managed to dig in her head during training. Makes sense now.

>>24440163
First of all, the Society of the Archmagi is its own prestige society. Not all archmages belong to it, and those that don't aren't involved in Liz's training. Second of all, the Malleus Maleficarum is the outside world's version of Dextra Domini. We think that Kaoru was part of Adversary/Nemesis.

Rolled 6

>>24440163
Not all archmages are society of the archmagi. The society of the archmagi is its own organization. Carl for example is an archmage, but he's an archmage of the Lotus, not the SotA.

>>24440188
Soooo... Illegal gambling cheating?

>>24440209
To simplify, DD solves magic underground issues with magic. MM does it with mundane weaponry or artifacts.

>>24440188
"Just finished up some work with dad. I felt like hanging out. Anything on your mind lately?"

We should order Lunch to make an inventory of all foci she's crafted.

>>24440188
Mostly I wanted to hang out we haven't spent enough time together.

>>24440188
"Nothing much, been helping dad with the ecosystem, thought I'd come hang out for a bit."

>>24440256
>>24440267
seconded

>>24440188
How many spirits does dad need for the spirit ecosystem?

>>24440246
>headslap
Shut up Snapple.

>>24440188
"Was just helping Dad with summoning spirits for the ecosystem. Also got a pretty extensive education on how the afterlife will work for me. What are you up to?"

>>24440266
>hell yes

then give her an orgasm for each one, weather she wants more or not her submission and masochism will love it.

>>24440288
>How many spirits does dad need for the spirit ecosystem?
a couple hundred minimum

>>24440188
"Nothing much really. Just spent a bit of time with Dad, decided to hang out with one of my favorite people, who I don't spend enough time with considering our mutually minimal sleep schedules, and see what you were up to. What's new with you? Anything on your mind?"

>>24440305
that might take a while, given how many we have

>>24440336
We'll just have to work quickly.

>>24440336
yes and?

>>24440305
Considering how many we have, that will probably end up legitimately killing her.

>>24440188
"I've been so wrapped up with my augments lately, just thought I would come down here and relax with you."

>>24440360
well i guess we don't have to do them all in one sitting.

After we get done faffing about with Lin, let's make a couple mundane transmutation foci.