>>24443305
>creativity
Well, we know what we're getting next.

Ask her what she thinks of 'processing speed' or 'logic' as augments.

Then go study sorcery some before class.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Scholomance

The previous thread is now archived. Remember to vote it up.

>>24443305
"Sounds like we're on opposite points of the aug curve then, I've been working body, and dropped from 7 to 10 in the meantime. What do the creativity and sanity mods feel like?"

Augment: WIRED REFLEXES
Unless that is covered by co-ordination

"Hey, if you remember anything that might be useful to me I'd thank you if you shared it."

>>24443363
I remember something about "bullet time" being mentioned before. Is this related to that?

>>24443363
>processing speed
carl warned us that can stop our heart

I'm curious, can someone give me the tl;dr version of BFQ?

>>24443413
it is that and speed
>>24443455
yes see>>24443463

We really need to up our studying. I don't want to get outdone by Lin too...

>>24443472
from the top of the last thread see also http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Blatant_Fetish_Quest
and possibly
First 118 threads:
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Scholomance
http://archive.foolz.us/tg/thread/23072794/

Previously on Blatant Fetish Quest, our protagonist, Max Power, learned that 'he' was actually a female with male genitalia, as a result of having an incubus as a father. Three years later, Max flew to Romania to enroll at the prestigious Scholomance, a school for magic, meeting Liz, your new girlfriend, on the way. On arriving in Romania, you learned that the Scholomance is extremely deadly and that only half of each class proceeds to the next grade each year.

You joined the Lotus prestige society, and befriended Lotuses. Upon arriving at the Scholomance, a city-sized school hidden in a cave that's bigger on the inside, you discovered a tower and found your father chained up in the basement. You're currently trying to balance Dextra Domini, rivals, commitments to your society, relationships, and studying while trying to survive.

You're half-way through November. Your first two dryads hatched and your mommy-instincts kicked into high gear. You survived a mysterious attacker. You've been perfecting your body.

>>24443413
Wired reflexes is basically giving yourself a never ending seizure with lock in controls that simply allow you to seize in specific directions.
The point is that when you're seizing everywhere, you don't need to think to move, you can just move like everything is a reflex.

But given that Max is already studying martial arts (to ingrain reflexes the hard way) and is augmenting her speed to move more quickly than human limits would normally allow, getting wired reflexes is largely redundant and needlessly dangerous. We'd be far better off simply continuing to increase our speed aug.

>>24443305
That is the stratify we should have used and started on mind augs as they make all our other goals easier. Well we can adopt it now

>>24443395
second

>>24443534
I just wanted to be all shadowrun up in this. If the effectiveness is already covered by co-ordination and speed then let's not go giving ourselves unnecessary seizures

>>24443305
"That's smart, I started with the physical ones so I could get lessons from Alexander without getting the shit kicked out of me too badly. I should probably shore up my mental augs now."

what do you guys think of the augs I suggested here >>24443131 ?

>>24443624
Too subjective. They're more behavioral than objective thinking or physical capability. The drawbacks are silly, too, to be honest.

>>24443534

No, that's Move-By-Wire.

Wired Reflexes is just using machinery to speed up your neural system.

>>24443624
Logic, as described, should fall under focus.
Reflection probably falls under calm, but could be part of sanity.
Kinetic force sense sounds interesting, but I'm not sure if Max's brain has the requisite structures to make sense of that kind of data (see our problem with giving Max echolocation). Could be doable, but it would probably take weeks/months of in game research before we even start with the augments themselves. And assuming the field doubles with each new level, it will probably start out sub millimeter in length.

>sanity
Carl did explicitly mention this is one of several augments that could be used to make the mind fork safe.

>>24443826
>See your post
>Audibly shout "FUCK"

"That's smart," you say. "I probably should have gone in that order, but I was really eager to get better at the martial arts that Master Lee was teaching me."

"I can get that kind of temptation," Lin says, nodding. "I decided to focus on the mental stuff first, especially Focus and Calm, to lay the ground work for the later stuff. It may not be as flashy, but damn is it useful."

"Say, how do Sanity and Creativity feel?" you ask her.

"That's a hard question to answer," she says, clearly giving it a bit of thought. "I guess that Sanity makes you feel more... Stable, I guess? Things don't really sneak up on you, emotionally speaking, shit has less of an impact, but not in the Calm kind of way, I guess. Since I boosted my Creativity, though, I keep having constant ideas for stuff. Most of it is crazy bullshit, like replacing my heart with some super-regeneration item, but every now and then I think of a real gem."

"Huh, that must get distracting," you say.

"Nah, I've got enough self control now to just ignore the crazier impulses. I'm glad I got Sanity, Calm, and Focus before picking up Creativity, though."

What do you say?

>>24443826
Which is why I only stopped arguing for it when it became apparent that Max would be focusing on physical ascension (prepping to train with Alex) instead of building a comfortable buffer with her grades first. Still not sure why some Anton's think the path of forking leads only to the protagonist's doom...

>>24443662
>subjective
how on earth are they subjective? all people suffer from things like the sunk cost fallacy for example.

Reflection would let us see any mental tampering better

and another way to counter the sense numbing of force fields besides more perception is a good thing.

and the drawbacks are the obvious problems they would cause. some of our augs have no obvious drawbacks like Coordination but spending time contemplating shit can be a draw back. Lots of posters are worried about max having a break down thinking about how immoral what we did to Breakfast and a lesser extent Lunch was.
for logic Spock pissed people off with his logic and we would have trouble playing it.

>>24443801
>Logic, as described, should fall under focus.
I diss agrre
>Reflection probably falls under calm, but could be part of sanity.
>Kinetic force sense
It is just touch at range.

>>24443864
We're getting creativity up to 10 or so.

>>24443864
>all this talking sure makes me thirsty, can I get you anything while I am at it? bottle of..?

No, no, moving on.
>>24443864
laugh about it being cheating when you get to keep trying. Good-natured way, let us not be a prick about it.

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>>24443864
>Lin is Snapple
>Is canon

>>24443864
>Most of it is crazy bullshit, like replacing my heart with some super-regeneration item,
So Creativity makes us Snapple?

>>24443923
>Snapple is a hot Asian chick
The dice gods knew!

>>24443934
Sounds like creativity without any levels of focus, calm or sanity makes you snapple.

>>24443934
We Max out sanity. Period.

>>24443864
Does this mean she's also considered skinning Max and wearing it?

>>24443934
No, see, Lin has mental augs in place that let her realise that most of her creativity ideas are shit.

>>24443905
Not before we get enough sanity, calm, and focus to avoid acting out stupid ideas. As explicitly stated right now.

>>24443902
I was in the same boat. I argued focus and calm should ALWAYS be 2 points higher then any other augment because focus and calm are used to perform augments. The more focus and calm we have the faster we augment. And that we should get mental augs before physical ones since they give continual returns (like in our studying)

>>24443962
Yep. Though it's probably more like she considered skinning herself to make Lin Leather(Tm). First person thoughts and all that.

>>24443864
"Looks like I've got to get Sanity before I try the creativity then. I can already think of why replacing your heart's a really stupidly dangerous idea."

>>24443966
Looks like Fem with her anti-bullshit filter gave us a virtual Sanity level.

>>24443864
tell her our mind drill plans.

>>24443905
only with calm, focus & sanity at 15 min

>>24443864
Start giggling for a bit "Replacing your heart with a regeneration item, that's just plain silly.

So, how's your sex life been? Did you have fun on Halloween? Having fun with Dad, Lunch, and Breakfast?"

can tantric medidation be used during augments? Because lin is currently the only one around who would survive that long doing tantric with Max

>>24443988
The other reason I wanted Sanity we the assumption that it would mitigate some of the stupid. We'll never know now though...

>>24443967
>I was in the same boat. I argued focus and calm should ALWAYS be 2 points higher then any other augment because focus and calm are used to perform augments. The more focus and calm we have the faster we augment. And that we should get mental augs before physical ones since they give continual returns (like in our studying)
this is the truth.

>>24444022
Can we remember this for the next timeskip ?

>>24444007
this is a good idea we should try it with Lin this weekend when we have lots of time.

I swear to god if Lin brings up the idea of a wendigo farm I will kill anyone that tries to talk her out of it.

>>24444049
All depends on what time of day IRL Fem kicks off the time skip...

>>24444007
I guess we could also use it as a punisment for Liz... But I agree this sounds the most stylish way of doing augs.

Found it... Blatant Fetish Quest LXXIII
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/23733493/#p23742351
>"Shore up your sanity, mental stability, self-awareness - whatever you want to call it - as much as possible. The fork will need it," Carl warns.

>>24444007
>Day hour long meditative dickings.

...My god. I hope so.

>>24444074
You know, I still get a kick out of that plan. Though if you want Max to survive that you really should have turned her into the cannibal. Makes things a lot easier if we're the wendigo (assuming roughly the same odd of the archmagi strait up sun nuking us out of the blue).

>>24444114
>Day long
I was apparently so excited by the prospect that I fucked up writing that.

>>24444074
>Wendigo
... can we augment our luck? the wendigo luck aura is supposedly the most dangerous thing about them.

>>24444007
Should be. We used it for healing meditation with Lunch already. We just need a hack to make Liz or the Meals more durable.

>>24444146
Think that falls under conjuration since it was an aura (soul-type thing) based spell, in which case we can't. If we had a decent bribe we could probably get some info about luck magic from the librarian though.

>>24444146
I suspect that would be a soul mod but i bet we could make a normal magic item with a lot of work,

>>24443864
Say we let the secret sanctum down a bit, but we would enjoy being able to help.

>>24444443
>secret
do you mean study?

>>24444466
uh, maybe. Whatever the thing with L&L, Sam and our fish friend is called.

Max should study some, we are really close to alchemy 4.

>>24444502
yes that is the study sanctum.

>>24444443
>>24444466
this

Speaking of secret sanctums: we should really get those old texts out of our secret bolthole.

>>24444565
yes i was to late this morning to suggest it in time.

>>24444565
Gather up some foci and try teleporting them. Barring a critfail, worst case we take a point of strain and fuck one of the meals.

"Hah, yeah, that's pretty ridiculous," you agree. "I'll make sure to get Sanity before Creativity, then, and upgrade my mind."

"Sounds like a plan," she agrees.

What do you talk about now?

>>24444623
Oh, I got here just in time to ask for some updated sheets for Liz and Lin.

>>24444623
Tantric meditation.

>>24444623
Let's see if she wants to do some sorcery groupstudy. She should be close to 2boxes now

>>24444623
Sex, talk about our sex lives, the Pets, any fetishes Lin has that haven't been fulfilled lately, which could mean in this lifetime, ask her how good our Dad is in bed.

Also ask about us trying tantric meditation together some time, we both have a lot of time on our hands and could use it.

>>24444659
this or alchemy sound good

>>24444623
Also ask if she can use that creativity of hers to think up a use for TK that doesn't suck.

>>24444672
seconding this

>>24444672
this or >>24444659/>>24444674

>>24444623
"So...have you ever drunk piss?"

>>24445032
Much as I don't want Max to actually say this, I am genuinely curious as to the answer.

>>24445032
I know this is a joke, but seriously man, why do you need the attention? What cause that insecure emptiness inside that you have to hide with outbursts like that? Seriously, I'm curious.

Also, don't actually ask that.

>>24445032
The answer is probably yes, she's been around for thousands upon thousands of years, she's tried a lot of things.

That being said I don't want to ask and actually know.

>>24445032
>>24445084
Pretty sure she's lived enough lives that it's more or less a given.

>>24445032
Please fuck no.

>>24445114
Do I call your fetishes a joke and insult you for them? Fuck you!

>>24445175
Well, I hate to burst your butthurt (most likely forced), but Fem has explicitly outlawed watersports and scat, so don't even bother.

>>24445175
Unfortunately, no piss because Fem doesn't like it.

>>24445214
>>24445261
Aww.

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>>24445261

>>24445261
>unfortunately
I don't have a problem with people having their own fetishes, but for the sake of this quest not attracting both internal and external shitstorms, I am glad it's not allowed.

>>24445114
>asking him while simultaneously worshiping Snapple
I will never understand faggots like you.

>>24445123
Well obviously I'd want /details/. Was she a human toilet in Rome for a time? Was it when she was in stocks? Or did she just have a freaky SO at some point?

I'd also like to repeat at this point that I do NOT want Max to actually ask her about it.

>>24445460
I'm just that good. They can't help it.

>>24445473
Who wouldn't want details like that?

>>24445514

Just keep telling yourself that.

>>24445536
Me, for one. Please, seriously, what the fuck no.

>>24445460
But she's so much cuter when she's spouting crazy talk. She just takes her ideas so seriously.

>>24445032
I know we have the filter and all now, but still, NO.

>>24444623
>>24444672
>ask her how good our Dad is in bed.
Yup.

>>24445692
Do remember to phrase the question as a comparison to our own sexual prowess. If Max is going to act like an idiot she might as well take some hits to her self image and end up feeling inadequate.

>>24445943
>Trying to compare our 16 year old's skills to a man who's been giving the D for 6000 years
I don't think we stand a chance.

>>24445943
>implying she isnt asking out of wistful envy since Liz has decreed that Max will never feel the fury of the Double D (Dad Dick)

>>24446014
That's the point anon.

>>24445473
>Was she a human toilet in Rome for a time?
I can't get this image out of my head.

>>24445692

I like this.

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>>24446074
Appropriate

>>24446086
She did say that in one life she was a castrati who got gangbanged.

>>24446074
Or we could just use the full sensory hijack spell on Lunch or Breakfast while Liz is "asleep." not much of a restriction really.

>>24445943
Yeah, thats not what I'm getting at.
>>24446074
This anon gets it.

>>24446124
Then sensory hijack Lin while she's fucking dad. What's the issue here?

>>24446124
Didn't think that was what you were getting at. Just thought if you wanted to open a can of worms you might as well do it all the way.

>>24446119
>>24446159
Considering how traumatized we were the first time let's not.

>>24446159
Cause I want flustery Max to ask Lin about it.

>>24446198
But the incest can is far more wormy than the one you mentioned.

>>24446114
Does drinking piss usually follow getting gangbanged?

>>24446222
But Max isn't flustery? If you want flusters from her you're going to need to kick her confidence around a bit. Usually only happens when we fail soul rolls or do something inherently stupid that fails in the expected fashion. Assuming you don't want to return to the days of idiot Max, start planning how to provoke a soul roll.

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>>24446289
>Piss in my mouth

>>24446289
No, it goes along with wilderness survival.
>Hi, I'm Bear Grylls and I'm exploring the Scholomance!

>>24446271
*blink* desire for deliscious daddy loving + realized utter inadequacy and the need for emotional (and physical) support from dad (since Liz is asleep) is less wormy than the former alone? Who knew?

>>24446359
>𝑎ction
Don't do this.

>>24446311
Sure she is, everyone gets flustered when asking people about embarrassing things, no exceptions.

>>24446417
Reference?

>>24446359
>*blink*
No. I'm not listening to you. Also, we are not switching Max into an embarrassed, inadequate-feeling pansy. That's so amazingly out of character it makes my skull hurt. If anything, Max would take it as a challenge to out-fuck her dad.

>>24446436
I'm sorry what? You want a reference for embarrassment?

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>all this talk about piss
Please no.

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>>24446457
He wants a reference somewhere in the story that Max gets embarrassed about asking embarrassing things. It doesn't matter what you think everyone else does, if Max hasn't established it as part of her personality, it's out of character. Not only that, most people here don't want her to act that way, seeing the responses to your posts.

>>24446457
Yes. I can think of a few examples of her being flustered by the consequences of asking dumb questions or doing brain dead things. I can't actually think of her being flustered from the get go of asking something embarrassing. I'm sure it happened, but can't think of one.

>>24446359
>*blink*
*grabs you by the throat*
BACK THE FUCK OFF

>>24446538
Don't encourage it. Please.

>>24446485
Huh, that's a first though I suppose it's warranted. Thank you for your contribution.

>>24446538
You forgot the fucking question mark, faggot.

>>24446549
Relax, its just a reference.
>>24446553
Oops, my bad.

>>24446549
That counts as encouraging it?

>>24446517
I think you mean one person, yourself.

You know, I missed these cluster fucks. Oh wait, no I didn't. They're stupid and FemCOCK reads all the posts wasted on these fights so they delay her from updating.

>>24446517
>One or two people is "most people"

>>24446538
lol

>>24446523
I think she got a little flustered during some questions from the Truth or Dare game, but I could be misremembering. And it definitely wasnt from the get go.

>>24446319
Okay!
*ZZZIIIIPP*

>>24446597
No. He meant me. The poster below the one you linked.

>>24446517
So just because it hasn't happened it isn't in character?
You know the players are who establish whats in character and whats not right? Who gives a fuck what her emotional state would be while asking about her dads prowess?

>>24446656
K, so you are most people now.

>>24446646
I thought the fluster was caused by Lin essentially usurping control of the game and then asking us if we'd ever taken a cock in our mouth (we admitted we had in front of Liz). Could be wrong.

>>24446700
Thats what I was saying. When we were asked embarrassing questions that we had no choice but to answer, but not when we asked anything.

>>24446694
If this we true Max would be a very different character, Lucpnch would be more heavily mentally shackled, Pierre would be long dead, we would have forked our mind by now with sanity 4 as a buffer, dick would never have met bell...so many other, more major divergences.

to;dr hahaha, no.

So what are we actually saying?

>>24446774
Something about the study sanctum and then we study some sorcery / alchemy.

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>>24446774
COCK!

>>24446774
We're asking her about how dad performs, and then some studying and sanctum discussion. We're jabbering idly while waiting for Fem.

>>24446807
This.

>>24446774
"So...how do you like Dad's dick?"

>>24446798
This.

>>24446774
More or less >>24444672

Possibly followed by tantric meditation and/or studying.

>>24446830
"How does it stack up against mine?"

>>24446849
"Is he as good as I think he is?"

>>24446798
>>24446807
These. And throw in a question about tatric augmentations.

>>24446848
Also, find out about her time as a Roman toilet. Maybe work that into the discussion about her fucking Dad.

>>24446892
We already covered that we weren't asking that.

>>24446830
We've seen her on Dad's lap fucked senseless. We don't really need to ask this.

>>24446892
And now I'm just hoping Fem's Internet is out. There is no way the filter is going to survive the stupid.

>>24446906
I agree, we don't have to ask her about being a toilet, but we definitely need to ask her about dad.

>>24446906
We've been fucked senseless but dad (admittedly as Breakfast, so vaginally), but that experience doesn't seem sufficient for some anons. Hopefully they'll have the good sense to Mealify Liz (and probably Lin) before actually fucking Samyaza, or else they're going to get Max killed or enslaved.

>>24446978
>Hopefully they'll have the good sense to Mealify Liz (and probably Lin) before actually fucking Samyaza, or else they're going to get Max killed or enslaved.
I'm not sure I see your jump in logic.

>>24446978
Or just wait the centuries we said we would before re-evaluating if we'd do it.

Because fuck you for suggesting doing that to L&L.

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>>24446978
Nobody is suggesting we fuck dad right now.
We just want to talk about his dick with Lin.

>>24447035
FemCOCK stated that if we fooled around with dad after Liz said 'no' that our sub would have violently turned on us. So we have to find a humane-ish way our dealing with that (reversible mind control and preventing her society from undoing it seems like the best option). Of course, dealing with Liz would probably make Lin question Living with us, and I don't like the idea of someone with so much information on us and dad staying on the friend list if she has a seriously good reason to question her safety in our company. That one is debatable though.

>Blatant Fetish Quest
>people complaining because other people have different fetishes from them
*sigh*

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>>24447114
>people complaining because other people have different fetishes from them
>Not understanding that the filter on fetishes is whether Fem likes them or not

>>24447110
We're not doing that, period.

>>24447084
Slippery slope anon.
>Max remembers the feel of Samyaza hands as he carefully traced out the tattoo designs on her back. The feel of is breathe and body heat.
>roll soul
>no successes
...

>>24447110
You assume that we have to fuck with her mind to change it, we don't, we just have to change her opinion, which is actually probably easier to do than to fuck with her brain function.

>>24447149
Oh well. It might be fun to play as Liz with our soul bound sub Max. Not sure if Lin or dad would stick around, but I guess we'll see.

>>24447149
We are doing that.
Here's how:
>>24446119
>>24446159

>>24447150
Man that woman is wearing such a short skirt, my hard-on is bleeding, must rape, must rape...
rrrrrrrrrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaappppppppppppppppppppeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

Do people really lack any self control just because their dick is hard? No, they don't.

>>24447208
Never actually been intimate with someone, huh?

>>24447149
Well, Fem has actually shown a positive opinion on incest happenin, so yeah.

We can attempt to lead the story that way as long as it isnt through a retarded method.

>>24447208
Think is, Max isn't a person. To a large extent we control her thoughts and actions, but the dice can sometimes override us.

fem, I don't even know what the fuck.
Forgive the unthinking, forgive the foolish.

>>24447226
You rape your GF?

>>24447114
>*sigh*
Oh, it's you again. Piss fetishism is banned from the quest in the first place, and you're ignoring that half the things people want to do in this quest are just asking for the entire quest to end in shambles.

>>24447198
Personally, I'll do my part to make sure it doesn't end up like that, because I'm not a fucktard that wants to sabotage the entire quest because a coupe things went against what I wanted. If we're trying to get on dad's dick, it's gonna be through sane methods that won't get people trying to kill us.

>>24447226
Clearly you haven't either, or you're posting from inside a prison right now.

>>24447260
This is what happens when Fem disappears for more than thirty minutes. Every. Time.

"So, how's the study house in the Himalayas coming?" you ask her. "I'm sorry I haven't been around enough to help with it. I'm sure having another good alchemist on hand would speed things along."

"Yeah," she confirms. "It probably would. It's no biggie, though. It's mostly done. We carved a pretty nice place into the side of a sheer face pointed south. Fashioned it like an ancient Tibetan Buddhist retreat with modern amenities. Sam has spirits set up regulating everything, and we're each putting in our own wards to guarantee that no one of us knows how to disable all of them."

"That's pretty cool," you say. "I should probably put in a cool Enchantment ward or something."

"That's probably a good idea," she agrees. "It's nothing as rigorous as this tower's wards but, well, I don't think it really needs to be, you know?"

"Sure, sure," you say. "Hey, want to get some Sorcery studying in? I really need to get better at it. I'm kind of shit."

"Yeah, sure," Lin says. "We can go over my notes."

Roll Mind. You get a +2 for Focus, a +2 for Calm, a +1 for Memory, a +1 for Lin, and a +1 from Lin's notes. I'll consider the first ten linked 1d100 rolls.

>>24447150
>the night before accidentally got trapped in all of Breakfast's senses
>The tattoo he was drawing was on the tailbone, so hands and sharpie on ass
>fail soul roll and be pushing energy towards him without realizing it a few days after we said after they grew up and were willing and initiated (but before we actually started raising the) we'd have sex with the Dryads even if they were technically our kids.
>Both of us confused and horny
>By getting Liz to stop us we kept ourselves from making a huge mistake.

>>24447301
>This is what happens when Fem disappears for more than thirty minutes. Every. Time.
To be fair, this time I disappeared for like two goddamn hours.

>>24447260
Think she called it a night already. Hell if the filter's working the thing to do would be to just start the next thread with the conversation being over and Max doing something else. Like her dad.

Rolled 88

>>24447321
Rolling.

Rolled 61

>>24447321
Don't worry Max, I'll learn ya that sorcery!

Rolled 9

>>24447321
Eh

Rolled 25

>>24447321
IMPROVEMENTS!

Rolled 36

>>24447321

>>24447329

That doesn't excuse us being derps, though.

Rolled 50

>>24447329
Internet being shitty again? Well, don't worry about it, it's just people being stubborn like usual. We'll have forgotten this whole discussion in an hour.

>>24447323

Rolled 1

>>24447321
Rolls

Rolled 19

>>24447321
rrrrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaaappppppppppppppeeeeeeeee

Rolled 86

>>24447321

ONES FOR THE ONE GOD.

FAIL FOR THE FAIL THRONE.

Rolled 42

think hard

>>24447372
Ah, there's my 1. It's been a couple days...

>>24447301
You're a moron, and a dictatorial, presumptive one at that.

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>>24447381
My hero!
*swoon*

>>24447381
One for ten. Jesus, what a scrape.

>>24447110
He also said she wouldve ditched us had we just went forward with the dickening without even asking.

>>24447301
>>24447329
>This is what happens when Fem disappears for more than thirty minutes. Every. Time.
I find it funny that it wasn't Snapple this time. Guess being Lin has a calming effect.

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>>24447396
>He
Mmm.

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>>24447301
I don't know, Max spending some time as a soul bound sub might be good for her. I'm sure Liz would release us or sell us when she gets bored.

>>24447455
I'd prefer it not happen in the first place.

>>24447455

Except we haven't shown the slightest inclination to Switch, and Liz specifically said she wants to be our sub.

As much as I wanted Max to be the sub so we could be the one collared

>>24447372
Obviously we were distracted with daydreams of dad's delicious dick and how nice his ass must feel. So tight and unused to intrusion, I can just see Max drooling a little before Lin points out that she isn't paying attention.

>>24447523
>So tight and unused to intrusion
Boy, you haven't been paying attention at all.

>>24447523
I just assume that Max, throws a sidelong glance at her dads crotch ever once in a while.

>>24447539
He was referring to the Dad ass.

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>>24447553
Oh, well in that case...yeah, yeah, I could go for that.

>>24447521
I just really don't see how playing a sub would be fun for a quest, like, at all. Yeah, it might be fun for the fetish and sex scenes, but it really, really would cut down on what we could do. I have a dominant preference anyway, so I wouldn't personally enjoy it, but that's beside the point.

>>24447521
True, but Liz is a mild sadist and subs only for us. We poison her devotion to us and I think her behavior might change. And, since Max probably wouldnt be leaving the house for a few semesters, the player perspective would also shift. Just a guess though, Fem hasn't enlighten us as to what happens if the player character is enslaved or imprisoned.

>>24447323
>huge mistake

See, that's what you're getting wrong there.

>>24447612
If Max gets her mind broken by pissing off Liz that badly, we probably would've done something so incredibly stupid that Fem got fed up and killed Max off first. Also, I don't like the thought of us jeopardizing everything we've worked for over something like being a sub. It's only going to cause problems. There is literally nothing to be gained, in-quest, from manipulating Liz into forcibly dominating Max. The kind of actions needed to cause such an event can only be described as counter-productive, to be as polite as possible about it. Of course, that's what I assume you mean by "poison" the devotion. You mean sabotage the relationship intentionally without her knowing and trying to make her react. That's not going to get the result you want. Max is probably going to end up dead for it.

>>24447539
Sorry if I wasn't clear, but I realized after the incest fiasco that the only way I'm comfortable with Max x Dimitri is if we Dom dad hard. Preferably starting off be invoking his true name and ordering him to his knees, but I realize how deep a betrayal of his trust that would be and that we can't actually do it. Anyhow, I'd prefer avoiding the whole thing, but since it seems like its going to happen eventually I might as well throw in my two cents for how it goes down.

>>24447705
I would like a scene similar to the one with Gaviscon, with Max's face in the dirt drooling as Sammy pounds the fuck out of her.

But thats just me.

>>24447323
Oh, you think that settled things instead of merely postponing the inevitable indiscretion and resulting shitstorm. How optimistic.

>>24447755
If there's one thing I've learned about this quest, it's that the majority of the participants lack the foresight to not fuck their dad in the vicinity of their girlfriend.

>>24447705
Assuming Liz mellows out in us having other lovers we woldn't need to dom dad. I agree that that would be a huge betrayal and am against it.

Also Liz specifically said we can ask her about opening our ability to fuck others after we have tried out emotional exclusivity we should do that.

After Selene begs for our D and Liz sees that everything came out ine on the incest she already approved we can ask her again about fucking Dad if the Dad X Max crowd still wants it i am indifferent to the prospect but lets be smart about it.

>>24447803
No, just a very loud few.

>>24447813
Yeah, you're right. I meant that. The ones that are too stubborn to just stop when people say no.

>>24447813
>Implying the incest crowd is smaller than the anti-incest crowd.

>>24447747
And I'd prefer dad bound with Liz dripping hot wax on his supine form as we pound away at his ass, his moans of pain and pleasure slightly muffled by a black rubber bit gag. Also have him blindfolded in my head for some reason. My own pipedream, since you shared yours anon.

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>>24447372
>>24447381
>>24447448
You make a couple of pretty big blunders, and have some concepts you misunderstood, but Lin ends up correcting them all and you learn from them.

What do you do now?

>>24447853
Do it again. Continue until we gotta leave for school.

>>24447852
Can't we have both?

Although I doubt Sammy wants to take the dick.

>>24447853
Check daughters and get our two hours of sleep.

>>24447853
Ask about dad's dick.

>>24447853
Check on the daughters real quick and try again. Let's get close to two boxes of sorcery, if not all the way there.

>>24447853
Go for level 2. Keep studying that magic!

>>24447853
Talk to her about our sex lives, goof off a bit with her, ask her how good our Dad's cock is.

Then check in on Selene and Alison, make sure they're happily tucked in, and take our nap.

>>24447869
Given that it's been heavily implied that he and Petrov were a couple, I dispute your posited dick aversion. Besides, with a couple soul rolls he'll probably end up loving it. If not we order him to and that's that.

>>24447853
Check daughters, get some sleep. Maybe we should just shift our sleep time so we wake up with Liz.

>>24447853
Check daughters and gather mental attack temp foci and make a few permanent mind attack foci in out tattoos.we need some magic attack power.

>>24447853

Ask about Dimitry's sexual performance, and how he is like when they're alone, even when not having sex.

>>24447853
Check on the daughters
and let Lin pick to study alchemy or sorcery together.

>>24447868
Probably should make some basic sorcery drain foci. That in class practical exam is coming and we want to be able to survive a blown roll.

>>24447853
More studying.

>>24447920
>If not we order him to and that's that.
See thats not cool, no forcing him to take the dick if he dont want to.

>>24447957
I suggest force/energy conversion foci when we do make some sorcery foci.

>>24447940
Ok, the "how is he when you two are alone and not having sex" bit is getting borderline stalker creepy anon. Shut it down.

>>24447920
>If not we order him to and that's that.
lets not betray dad like that

>>24447957
what spells would you call basic sorcery?

>>2444785

I agree, Dad should want our cock. Or want his, either way is more than great for me.

>>24447940
Actually, yeah, would be interesting to see if he acts different when he's not around us.

>>24447991
>what spells would you call basic sorcery?
The only sorcery we'e done has been converting energy from one form to another.

>>24447988
Second. Also one for the energy absorption from light/heat/sound, storage and transfer thing we did for the collar. I have a feeling that could be a class lesson eventually (if it hasn't already). Anyway, might be useful for making magic items.

>>24448059
I think making things powered like the collar would be covered by the F/E conversion foci.

>>24448059
>Anyway, might be useful for making magic items
yes it will like the necklace for Alison

>>24448085
Oh, thought you were talking an offensive/defensive magic type focus, not utility. My bad.

>>24447990

Stalker material how? Is it bad for Max to want to know how her deadbeat father eally is like when he's not around her? Specially considering they have a blood bond, and that a second opinion might make her closer to her parent?

>>24448108
You could use it for either, just like the mundane transmutation spells can be used to make beds for the pets or turn the air around our enemies into acid.

>>24448110
you phrased it poorly if that was what you wanted.

>>24447869
I'll make you a deal. Let Liz have whatever fun she wants with dad while we aren't around, and I'll let Max switch for her father. If he at any point begs us to let her stop we'll just tell him that he knew the terms of the deal we he signed on (make sure he knows the terms of the deal when he signs on). Lunch might be disappointed at the lack of Liz's attention/correction, but it should work out fine if we step up our game.

>>24448177
Right, but I didn't think the mundane transformation focus could be used to built a transformation effect (when the user thinks 'the code word' this device expands to a much greater size) into a powered magical item. Good to know it can.

>>24448186
I'm sure dad would not be opposed to being dominated by his daughters girl.

Deal.

>>24448186
I...what? Liz doesn't even want anyone else, at all, besides us. She literally does not care about anyone else at all. I'm hoping you're being facetious.

>>24448186
I don't think Liz will go for it
Plus I don't want a sad Lunch i like Lunch, if we fix that and Liz and Dal like it I am ok with it.

>>24448250
It's going to be fun watching Max learn about pain as she grows more and more addicted to her father's cock and tender ministrations. And seeing Dimitri covered in cuts, bruises and burns. That'll be fun too.

>>24448255
But she is willing to have a little fun outside of Max, too.

Like DP'ing Lin, or her first thought on "let's fuck Sam" hand gestures was "stick magic dick in his mouth."

>>24448229
we could use it on making the super bed as that is a mundane transmutation magic item (Assuming i understand the rules)

Damn guys.

I am into this stuff. But. I don't think we can make it happen in the story organically. Leave it for the pastebins.

>>24448323
which is why now is a good time to talk to her about having an even more sexually open relationship.
At least having blanket permission to fuck the meals and Lin for fun.

That would help us treat the meals better as we can reward them with sex that isn't draining.

>>24448330

As much as I want to see hot, sweet Max/Dad love, this anon is right. The last thing we need is a pissed-off Liz.

>>24448330
this

and if we're going to try and make it happen in quest let's not push so hard

>>24448323
>But she is willing to have a little fun outside of Max, too.
I have a hard time believing that. Regardless, >>24448330 is right, most of these fantasies are a bit late to try doing without a lot . You'd get your fantasy much less painfully if either you or someone else wrote it and put it in pastebin. We can try in-quest, but expect to have to stop and cut your losses at the first roadblock.

>>24448255
Remember how she felt about Lunch in CatGIRL's thread? Physical and emotional disinterest, but she liked making her nervous. She liked controlling her. I don't think we have too push her that much before she figures out that she likes make people helpless. And that pain is a part of that. Plus Dimitri should make a good stand in for her daddy issues (abusive parents, remember), and an outlet for any feelings she may have been repressing. Could be wrong, but is it too much to hope for a good show anon?

>>24448377
Which is why we re-direct Liz's ire toward dad and pretend that the odds are against her outright killing, mindraping or enslaving him. Besides, the fallout is part of the fantasy for me.

>>24448444

The fallout is definitely not part of mine.

>>24448456
Fair enough.

>>24448401
This show in particular? Yes. I'd rather not try telling Liz that she can take out her frustration over her parents on our dad. Not only is that abusing our dad and making us no better than her parents, and not only is it betraying our father's trust, it's telling Liz that her parents were abusive and that she should hurt them or a stand-in for them. We haven't actually called her parents abusive. It's an incredibly presumptuous, asshole thing to do. We have a perfectly fine dynamic going on for relationships. At most, I would suggest maybe pushing for sexual liberty in general, at the most. Trying to do anything more than that is asking for trouble that will distract us for a long, long time from the actual quest.

>>24448444
not such a fan of fallout myself

>>24448444
I Like dad as a person and as a tool so lets not hurt him any more than he would like.

I don't want that fallout at all it is a boner killer for me.

>>24448471
We should however take some time when we have spare time with Liz, cuddle with her, and talk to her about her parents, get her to tell us more about them, ask how they treated her, how they punished her for things, all of that, and help her explore that part of their relationship, and if her parents were abusive we can then work through that with her, preferably with sex involved.

>>24448471
Eventually, I do want to talk to Liz about her relationship with her parents and authority figures in general, but I understand that no is not the time to do it. It's something I think that could bring Max and Liz together and help her deal with some of her issues, if she has any.

My own terrible relationship with my abusive dad has nothing to do with this desire at all. I assure you completely.

>>24448517
I'd rather not link affection and sexual intimacy with parental abuse.

>>24448471
I think I see the point of divergence of our views. I'm hoping Liz decides to hurt them, or at least make some modifications to their behavior.

>>24448471
>sexual liberty in general
I want this

and this anon has everything right. Doing that to Liz will only hurt her and dad not help her at all. We are NOT Hurting Liz.

>>24448532
If she does that, it's going to be of her own impulse. I don't want to encourage to do that is all.

>>24448444
>Besides, the fallout is part of the fantasy for me.
Same here. I want to go this route.

>>24448471
i have an idea
instead of getting Liz to abuse dad, what if we convince them to do some productive "role-play" of Liz talking about what her parents have done to her...

>Get huge boulder
>Enchant to convert into other energy
>Lift into air
>Rock Energy Generator
>All energy problems solved.

Why would anyone even dick around with using elementals for power?

Also, if we self augment with this then we can just float around and use the energy from that to power self wards.

Sorcery > conjuration

>>24448549
>>Enchant to convert into other energy
Converts gravitational potential energy into other

>>24448542
second

>>24448557
such as... say... kinetic?

Can we just talk about his dick with Lin?
There is no slippery slope, just a girl, jelly that she can't have something she longs for.

>>24448569
Whatever kind of energy it is that powers other magic.

We could make it life energy, the kind we manipulate in our chi network for augments, and then mainline it.

>>24448557
you'd still need to put energy into that system to lift it into the air.

>>24448569
he means magical ward energy

>>24448549
that sounds as unstable as balancing a bolder
on a pin otherwise it sounds like a sound idea.

>>24448549
Pretty sure the laws of thermodynamics invalidate that idea, or people would be dropping rocks off of winches for power already. You have to gather the energy to lift and drop the boulder first. I think it's physically impossible to expend less energy lifting the rock against gravity than what energy is generated by freefall.

>>24448590
>>24448594

see
>>24448591

that Potential energy from gravity would be equal to the energy you put into it to keep it in the air

>>24448603
>>24448613

>laws of thermodynamics
Hello Mr. Thermodynamics, I'm Sorcery. The guy that fucks you for a living. Howsit goin'?

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>>24448603
Not with Escher

>>24448582
Except Max sometimes has issues with impulse control and the only thing stopping her is her self control. So it's pretty much guaranteed that at some point she's going to be fucked by her daddy, and at another she's going to give him anal fissures with her iron cock.

>>24448628
dear god.... we need an Escher room...

>>24448619
Well, if sorcery breaks the laws of physics, then by all means, why hasn't someone turned the earth into a mass of antimatter?

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As you can see, Physics can suck a dick.

>>24448591
>>24448603
there may be ways to use alchemy or conjuration to cheat the direct expenditure and extract more general energy.
also >>24448619 may have some answer.

>>24448630
That's mighty presumptuous of you, I feel. I get the pretty distinct feeling that when that time came around, the thread will let out a pretty big NOOOOOOOOOOOOOPE.

>>24448628
Dad's dreamspace sanctum?

>>24448619
might want to ask QM before you make that assumption and
>>24448660
your pick is shit quality

>>24448668
For which part? And how much do you want to bet the roll off mechanic suddenly returns?

>>24448694
The part where you assumed that an occasional lack of self-control will inevitably lead to a presumed outcome. It's called a slipper slope fallacy.

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As you can see, the plan is flawless.

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>>24448766
What?

>>24448766
For some reason, I look at that and think "Yeah, nuclear forces are great." I assume it's the green and the reasonably certain thinking that getting that working may be more effort and more potential failure that elemental summonings.

>>24448766
B-uhh...how do you lift and drop the rock? Why am I even bothering asking these questions? Sweet lord, what am I looking at?

>>24448766
>quality
>what is?

>>24448836
The rock floats because the sorcery converts all of it's potential gravitational energy into life energy.

It doesn't fall once it's up there.

>>24448836
Do you need another diagram?

>>24448836
Place rock on platform. Magic the rock. Set platform on fire (or just remove it, whatever). Haven't looked at the current diagram so I guess that's just a blind assumption on my part.

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>>24448766
I have a better plan.

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>>24448766
That looks familiar...

>>24448856
Then you wouldn't have any gravitational energy being produced...I...what. Have you ever taken a physics class? Well, I'll let you know the most basic physical equation you'll be taught.

Force = Mass * Acceleration

If the rock is not accelerating, it is not producing force, and thus no energy. Your idea is inherently impossible.

>>24448672
>As you can see, Physics can suck a
>>24448836
teliport it there or better yet convert some air in place around a lightweight already enchanted substrate.

>>24448923
>Your idea is inherently impossible.
Since when has that stopped him?

>>24448923
Magic.

Not impossible.

The Rock is trying to gravity, but the magic takes it away before it falls.