>>24377520
txt him for a teleport back

>>24377520
this>>24377529

>>24377520
Are we being tested on anything? If not excuse ourselves then port home.

>>24377557
and step out of class

>>24377520
If we have no tests today, step out quietly and teleport home.

>>24377560
as long as we excuse ourselves without unnecessary disruption of class.

>>24377568
Or if we simply walk out without making a point of drawing attention to ourselves. That's how it works in university, at least.

"Bring me back," you text your dad. You give Liz and Lin a look, then slip quietly out of the class while Petrov continues to lecture. You're out in the hallway for only a few seconds before you're quite suddenly back in the tower.

"What's going on?" you ask your dad immediately. He's standing there with Selene.

"She's ready, mama!" Selene says, grinning excitedly. "She's finally ready!"

"Selene says she's hatching," your father tells you. "You should head down."

"Right," you agree, then start quickly climbing down the ladder until you're at the prison level. You stop at the garden plot. It's grown into a sort of tiny evergreen forest, her pod a massive egg-shaped pine cone, its scales flattened to be almost smooth. It's occasionally twitching and shaking from side to side too, something it didn't do before. You don't hear any sounds from within, nor do you see any little fingers trying to push out. Maybe she's not as far along in the hatching as Selene was when you helped her out?

What do you do?

>>24377756
Cheer for her, like we did for Selene.

>>24377756
we should say honey Mommas here you can come out. come i I know you can do it.

After she hatches we should look up Norse mythology names and as ask Dad for any ideas.
That way we can use Andvera and Skathi (Max may knows this as a bodybuilder name)
also
Aslaug/Alison - daughter of Sigurd and Brynhildr, Heimer. At the death of Sigurd and Brynhild is a another really good Norse name in English

also here is a trimmed compiled list of Norse mythological names from Wikipedia.

Names in angle bracts are my feminizations. Things in () are the meanings of the names or other spellings

Gefjun (or Gefjon, Gefion)- an Æsir a goddess of chastity and fertility connected with ritual plowing
Jörð (or Jord AKA Fjörgyn) - Earth goddes lover of Odin, bore him Thor.
Skadi -was a goddess of hunting and skiing Odin’s wife.
Sjöfn - Goddess of love.
Skaði - Goddess of winter Njörðr's wife.
Snotra - Goddess of prudence.
Tree-Goddess of life.
Vár - Goddess of contract.
Vör - Goddess of wisdom.

Jotunn
Bestla [pron.: /ˈbɛstlə/ BEST-lə]- mother of the gods Odin, Vili and Vé granddaughter of the jötunn Bölþorn
Gunnloð ("battle-invitation") - a giantess
{Hrímgrímnara} Hrímgrímnir ("frost-masked") - mentioned by Freyr's servant Skírnir as he was attempting to court the jötunn maiden Gerðr
Hroðr ("famed") - friendly to the Æsir and the wife of the jötunn Hymir.
{Hymera}Hymir - husband of Hroðr father of Týr & Son of Odin. Owned a mile-wide cauldron, Thor & Týr, obtained it from him. He has several daughters.
{Litra}Litr/Lit/litur("colour") - a name borne by a dwarf and a giant.
{Mímare}Mímir/ Mim ("The rememberer, the wise one") - renowned for his knowledge and wisdom beheaded during the Æsir-Vanir War. Afterward Odin carries his head and it recites secret knowledge and counsel to him.
Rindr/Rinda/Rind - giantess, a goddess or a human princess from the east [somewhere in present-day Russia] impregnated with Váli by Odin
{Vosude/Vasada} Vosud/Vasad ("Wet and Sleety") - father of Vindsval grandfather of winter.

continued...

>>24377756
Kneel down by the pod and give her reassurance as she works her way free.

>>24377809
>know*

...continuing

Dwarves
{Andvera} Andvari - the Dwarf Odin stole his ring of infinite gold from. We can call her Vera fore short
{Dvalina} Dvalinn - the discoverer of runes

>>24377817
those are all awful names

>>24377756
"come on little girl you can do it mom is here, come on out honey, come on (lets give her a normal name ) you can do it Sarah."

>>24377809
I notice you didn't include the obvious one Max probably has heard of. Freya.

>>24377832
>Sarah
No, that is terrible.

>>24377809
>>24377817
I hate literally all of those. I think we should name her something that a person who speaks American English would recognize as a girl's name.

>>24377846
I still like melanne

>>24377838
Freya's not bad, a little obvious, but then again, so's Selene.

>>24377831
>>24377856
Alison is not awful.
>>24377838
yes i did forget that

Let's leave the names for later. Now let's give her words of encouragement in order to push out by herself.

>>24377860
I'd rather Freya than archaic, stupid-sounding norse names. Freya sounds like something a sane person would name their child.

>>24377863
Okay, that's fair. Of all of those names, Alison or something with a viable Americanized nickname are acceptable.

>>24377875
yea lets get her out of that pod first

>>24377877
>viable Americanized nickname
Andvera = Vera

>>24377809
>>24377817
I'm just going to put this out there, but naming our daughter something Norse just because of what we used to fertilize her is like naming a black child you adopted Jamal because lolblacknames. We should name her something that actually fits her parents' cultural backgrounds, i.e. something that makes sense in American English. We're naming a daughter, not a novelty pet.

>>24377875
This.

Besides didn't we say that Terra is a pretty good name for her?

>>24377925
Its not the worst name we've heard in these threads

>>24377860
>>24377876
I like Freya, it's normal enough not to sound weird, but with a slightly Norse feel to it.

>>24377925
only after Fem shot down Norse ideas and before asking dad/ the internet came up.

>>24377939
yea ok, that works too.

>>24377939
A: It's incredibly weird.
B:
>>24377907

>>24377907
>Alison
has non of those problems

>>24377946
people were against skathi even before that, and andvera is not much better

You kneel down next to the pod, your kneels getting all dirty, and put your hands gently on the sides of it. You can feel better now the movements that she's making, shifting an tapping in a way that wasn't obvious just by looking. "Come on," you say, tapping back as she taps at you. "You can do it, sweetie. Mama's her. We're all waiting for you."

You hear little sounds of exertion from within, frustrated little baby sounds.

Roll Soul. You get a +2 from Calm and a +1 from having gone through this once already. I'll consider the first seven linked 1d100 rolls.

>>24377953
How is it incredibly weird?

I've met girls called Freya before.

Two in fact.

No I do not live in a scandinavian country.

>>24377953
But it's not all that weird. Hell, I live in maryland and I've met someone named Freya. If there's any vaguely norse-sounding name that can be considered normal, that's it.

Rolled 83

>>24377983
Huh, don't remember us having to roll for encouraging Selene.

>>24377907
Shaniqua-dealaContesi

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Rolled 83

>>24377983
>roll 1s
>traumatize baby before birth

>>24377984
That's an incredibly weird and uncommon experience. 'Freya' is name that the majority of Americans have never heard, let along recognizing it as a little girl's name.

Rolled 48

>>24377983

Rolled 62

>>24377983
FOR TERRA

Rolled 95

>>24377983

>>24377978
True. I would be fine with Alison.

Rolled 10

>>24377983

Rolled 62

>>24377983

>>24377991
she was much further along in hatching.

Rolled 81

>>24377983
The dice love dryads

>>24377997
Clearly some people have.
>>24377984
>>24377985

>>24377997
>'Freya' is name that the majority of Americans have never heard,
[citation needed]
Since the Avengers movie a year or two ago knowledge of that name has been fairly common.

>>24377991
>>24377996
>>24378000
Mothering instincts, fuck yeah!

>>24377991
>>24377996
>>24378000
The pod starts shaking more, and with a tiny scream of frustrated exertion, you see one of the scales budge. Over the next few minutes, little fingers, skin with the pale texture of polished spruce wood and finger nails like dark, smooth bark, push out around it. Soon, more of the scales start getting dislodged, until finally a large enough opening has been made for her to crawl out into your arms.

Much of her body has that same wood grain you saw before. Her finger nails and toe nails are like smooth sapling bark. Her lips, nose, and other places you would expect to be pinker on a baby transition from the gold-white of the rest of her body to a blue-grey wood with an extremely tight grain. Blue-green fir needles cover her head like hair. Her eyes are an almost startling blue, like the winter sky on a cloudless day.

She's big. Not as big as Selene is now, but a lot bigger than she was when she hatched. She's cool - almost cold - to the touch.

You look her over more carefully as she clings to you, trembling and breathing hard. The inside of her mouth - her tongue, the insides of her lips and cheeks, her gums - are an even bluer shade than her lips. Her genitals look... Normal, you think? But Selene's looked relatively normal at first too.

She's looking at you questioningly with those gleaming blue eyes. She looks confused.

What do you do?

Rolled 29

>>24378178
Name her Terra

Rolled 78

>>24378208
I meen Melanne

>>24378178
"Hello, I'm your mom." Then snuggle her.

>>24378208
No, we're either going with Freya or Alison. I prefer Freya.

Rolled 78

>>24378219
You mean Alison.

Rolled 64

>>24378219
*mean
Jesus I can't spell today

>>24378178
comfort her name her
ask Dad for any ideas. then name her
Andvera or Alison( we can do Alison now)

>>24378214
>>24378219
Let's go with Alison. It has the mythological ties for the people who care about that and is quite Americanized for the people who care about that. It is the ideal compromise of everything proposed so far.

name her after her biological mother.

Rolled 93

>>24378231
Alison isn't to bad, alot better than freya anyway

>>24378178
>But Selene's looked relatively normal at first too.
I thought Selene's clit was obviously oversized.

>>24378178
Spend some time holding out baby and talking to her before we take her out to introduce her to the others.

>>24378242
I like this but i already voted

>>24378252
>relatively
yes but not a lot

Rolled 9

>>24378252
>I thought Selene's clit was obviously oversized.

I thought so too.

>>24378178
I still vote for naming her Freya.

>>24378214
Yay someone remembered Terra.

And now I go take a shower.
Implying a consensus will be reached before I get out

>>24378178
smile put her hand to our face

Rolled 8

>>24378178
Lets name her alison

>>24378178
Name her Alison. It's the only compromise.

>>24378178
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr2m1VzTAI8

>>24378178
snuggle with the baby if she wants something cold call Liz's water spirit for her.

>>24378252
>>24378263
It was but it didn't look like a dick and IIRC her clit has gotten more masculine over time.

Aine
Karren
Macha

I vote for Alison.

Also, we should probably go out and buy some babby clothes now, Selene still has none. At least for them to wear before the huge growth spurts.

>>24378284
None of the names are a compromise.

Not that we'll have a compromise unless we name her Fraliserra or something.

>>24378307
Pretty sure Selene has clothes.

Snuggle her. Talk to her. Be amazed at her beautiful eyes.
(I support Allison).

>>24378307
>buy some baby clothes now, Selene still has none
we transmute her new ones at need and Selene has some had me downs.

Rolled 51

>>24378307
This

Rolled 21

>>24378324
>>24378307
Yeah lets go with this for now.

Max doesn't know and hasn't looked up all these obscure Norse goddess names, I don't know where everyone things she'd be pulling them from.

Rolled 69

>>24378339
yea fem confirmed that last night

>>24378339
If you're referring to Freya, then it isn't obscure.

If you're referring to the names listed >>24377809 then slowpoke.jpg.

>>24378354
I'm referring to pretty much anything that isn't Terra, Allison, or Freya (I guess). Thankfully those seem to be the front runners now.

>>24378314
my main perseverance is Andvera then Skathi then Freya then Alison then Tera a then smattering of other things i dont hate
>>24378303
>Macha
who names there kid that?

>>24378339
>>24378352
see >>24378354 or ask dad or google

Rolled 1

>>24378354
honestly I've never heard the name freya before these threads

>>24378388
Yeah, neither have I. People who think it's an American name live in weird-ass areas.

Fem, you might want to pick a few you like out of the spectrum and make us vote. This is going nowhere, even if Alison and Freya hold the majority.

Rolled 30

>>24378397
It's not as obscure as the other norse names but it's still pretty obscure

>>24378408
It looks pretty clear to my that alison holds the majority

name her Mika

>>24378397
Nobody's saying it's an American name, we're just saying that it's not one that's so out of the ordinary as to be weird. Maybe the average midwesterner would never have heard of it, but just for starters anyone who watched Avengers would have.
Or anyone who's so much as glanced over norse myth, which I would have thought to include everyone on /tg/. I mean really, come on guys.

>>24378438
me to Freya is a close second and Tera a distant third but Freya may lose some points unless Max has sen the Avengers.

"Hello there," you tell her, looking at her beautiful eyes. "I'm your mama. You live here now. I love you very much. Your name is Alison."

Then you pick her up and hold her tight. She clings to you hard at first, then slowly seems to relax in your arms. You hold her there like that for a while, cradling and humming to her. Finally, you feel her start to squirm. You think she might want to go find some water, or maybe explore, or even just get a better look at you. You set her down and she toddles about a meter away from you. She stares at you for more than a minute, looking you slowly up and down.

Then she starts crying, just standing there as tears roll down her face, the sobbing loud, if not as ear-piercing as when Selene cries.

What do you do?

>>24378388
With a roll like that, I doubt you've heard of your own name.

If we're going for Norse-sounding names, I think Sigrun is pretty good.

>>24378451
Guess what? Max doesn't browse /tg/ and isn't into mythology. Do you even IC/OOC differentiate?

>>24378474
>Your name is Alison.
Sigh. Can't win them all, I guess.

>>24378474

Pick her up and hold her again. She needs to be close to mommy for a while.

>>24378474
give her a bottle? she is probable very hungry after all that.

>>24378474
Aww, make a fuss of our baby, get her some water, or fertilizer, or whatever we were giving Selene when she was that age.

>>24378494
So much for themed names.

>>24378474
Get her some water/food, grab the water elemental and see if she likes it cold, fuss over her a bit.

>>24378494
I liked Melanne, but I guess only MrTT and I like that one

>>24378474
>>>24378503 >>24378504
both of these

>>24378474
Is Selene in the room?

Rolled 47

>>24378536
>>24378504
>>24378503
Yeah, do this she is just scared.

>>24378494
>>24378517
I look forward to the rest of the threads today (and tomorrow, and maybe the next day) being interspersed with people posting some variant of:

>"WHAT THE FUCK I MISSED THE BEGINNING OF THE THREAD AND YOU FAGGOTS CALLED HER ALISON FUCK YOU FAGS FUCK THIS THREAD FOREVER I'M OUT!"

>>24378517
>grab the water elemental and see if she likes it cold
Hey, that could actually be cool. That could be her version of Fap. Each of our daughters gets a familiar.

>>24378521
Ehhh. Sounds too much like my mother's name, that would feel weird to me.

>>24378490
he was commenting on the OOC lack of knowledge in people like >>24378388

You know, if this quest lasts long enough for the daughters to grow up some, it would be cool to have side stories from their perspective as they go around having adventures.

>>24378547
No.

>>24378558
>I saw this coming last night at lease the go home and talk her out of the pod gave a lot more people a chance to voice an opinion than a strait jump to it. OTOH tacking this on the end last night could have been bad to.

>>24378605
Personally, right now I'm looking forward to play-wrasslin' with our half-jotunn daughter when she's old enough.

>>24378608
We should call call Liz's water elemental (name it Dihidragon monoxide) for her to play with it is cold and smells of the sea she will love it.

>>24378667
me to

>>24378677
Let's not right now. We can introduce her to the dragon later when we introduce her to everyone else.

Oh wowzo. You actually did pick a name before I got out of the shower.

Alison is nice.

You pick her up. "Oh, it's okay," you whisper to her. "Shhh, mama's got you. You don't need to be afraid." You quickly prep one of Selene's old bottles for her as her crying fades slowly to hiccups and sniffles. You stick the nipple in her mouth and she drinks down the water like a man lost in the desert. She burps as she finishes, then smiles at you and starts looking around, holding on tight to your shoulder and neck. You think she might want to look around.

What do you do?

>>24378608
Then grab Alison and carry her upstairs to show off.

>>24378802
Seconded.

>>24378802
Let's take her on a little tour, we can introduce her to her to the others. Selene is going to be excited, I'm sure.

>>24378802
Show her around until she start being tired, then put her to sleep under our dear Breakfast care.

>>24378802
Well, we gotta show her off. Oh, might want to wrap her up in something.

>>24378827
Uhhh, what?

>>24378802
Well, lets show her to dad and Selene.

Anyone think we should go ahead and 'friendslist' her for dad immediately or if that would be a bit rude?

On the one hand, he asked for the contract and if he does get offended we can just remind him.

On the other hand it still seems a bit I-don't-trust-you, although we still have him bound anyway.

>>24378802
second >>24378803

>>24378851
miss click i bet he meant >>24378803

>>24378860
Do it quick, but do it. "She's Alison, my daughter and a friend."

Rolled 17

>>24378836
>>24378803
Yeah, lets do this.

>>24378860
>'friendslist' her for dad immediately
we did it for her big sister

>>24378860
We'll mention it at some point, it would seem a bit rude if we said it straight away, but if we do it as a sort of "oh yeah, this probably goes without saying, but..." thing later today, that should be fine.

So, is her skin actually like wood, with grain and lines of different colors, or is it like a flat color of polished wood?

>>24378860
>When we did it for Selene it was because he asked us he will be fine.

>>24378860
I mean, he knows we'd just order him to jump up his own asshole if he tried anything. It hardly seems necessary.

>>24378912
More the latter than the former, but it is firmer than normal flesh, and has a polished texture when rubbed.

>>24378802
show her around the tower and get her another bottle, introduce to her family.

>>24378966
Oh, I was just wondering about appearance, but thanks for clarifying.

>>24378966
How long till her Mommy and Aunty Lin are home?

>>24379000
After we put her to bed we should probably get back to class. Coming back would be an acceptable action.

>>24379011
Eh, we already skipped out. May as well stick around in case THE BABY needs us.

>>24379011
depends on how much of class is left if that is worth it of if it is time for THE BABY like >>24379027 says

>>24379011
Nah. Entering and leaving class is disruptive, and teachers HATE them both. My college has a larger penalty for coming in late then for skipping class entirely.

>>24379011
>Leaving the newborn baby's side on its first day alive

Absolutely disgusting.

>>24379027
I was actually thinking, Petrov doesn't seem the type to hold a grudge if we skip the rest of the lesson, but he'll almost certainly be pissed to hell if we disrupt class coming back in.

>>24379055
It was an all day lecture and we skipped near the beginning.

>>24379064
We skipped halfway through, and the class isn't all day, just a few hours.

>>24379079
all (class)day

>>24379064
>>24379079

that will be sure to affect our grade.

>>24379064
Doesn't matter. Coming in late is a great way to get your professor to hate you. Hell, at my school, skipping class has no penalties beyond just now learning anything that day; coming in late is 5% off your maximum total grade for the course.

Our class ranking is slipping. We really should buckle down and make powerleveling our casting a priority during the next timeskip.

>>24379064
You're about half-way through today's class.

>>24379055 class is 3 hours total getting her settled is a t least an hour no point in going back to class. Especially considering >>24379062

>>24379062
We can text Liz and tell her to let us know if there's any assignments or projects assigned today. We can come in after he finishes lectures and do the assignment, if we need to. If it's just lecture, don't worry about going back.

>>24379000
A couple hours.

>>24379116
We just had a timeskip but most people wanted to power level the augments.

>>24379135
in retrospect the ones we chose were a bad idea as the mantles would have helped us on other stuff more

Not to mention we want sanity for mind fork so we can power aug in the background.

>>24379116
We can do that next timeskip, yeah. We can do some minor alchemy and conjuration projects in the meantime. We should get both Conj and Alch up one more box at least before the next timeskip.

>>24379135
Which was a mistake; we should have had spellcasting as one of our priorities. We should always have spellcasting as a timeskip priority.

Anyway, we're going to get diminishing returns on augments, so we'll have to boost Alchemy and Enchantment anyway to keep up.

>>24379064
Just have to ask Sam for Petrov's number, send him a photo or our dear child captionned "Sorry I won't come back to class today. <3"
[this is not a real suggestion]

>>24379176
>mantles
What?
>mind fork
Oh hell no.

The augs were all fine are frankly necessary if we want to start training under Alexander. We took a short-term hit to help us out long term. We can study on-screen, which is a hell of a lot less rolling than making a +3 augment.

>>24379201
I agree with this. Hell, we could probably go study right after Alison falls asleep.

>>24379201
>mantles
should be mental as in focus memory and calm for study and meditation.

Sanity makes mind fork safe and gets us out of this shit 3 action limit.

The augs were all fine are frankly necessary if we want to start training under Alexander
that was to get to 2 which we had last skip we went to 3s and that is IMO over kill for now.

>>24379225
Agreed, hell, we should study after we introduce her around, Selene can play with her baby sister while we supervise in the same room and we can study.

>>24379235
>gets us out of the three action limit

No, it won't, the three action limit is hard set.

>>24379268
fem said the other fork can do actions for us lie add augs or develop spells so yes that breaks the limit it is the only thing fem said will.

>>24379268
I think he's saying we can have a mind fork run around in the background learning and studying shit for us.

But it's a bad idea - mind forks are absolutely more trouble than they're worth right now.

>>24379288
if we get like sanity 2-3 why are they so bad?

>>24379357
>>24379288
Because its a seperate mind inside our mind. Everything we will do to augment our mind (studing/augments) after the mind fork is created will not augment the mind fork.

So we will be left with a copy of a 16 year old first year even when we reach the 5th circle.

Not to mention that creating it is dangerous too.

>>24379357
It's not bad, just not worth it yet. That's a lot of investment for no guaranteed return.

Besides, Max is all about the Body and Soul right now, not so much the Mind. I would expect Liz or Lin to do it before us, if anything - Liz because she's smart, and Lin because she can be lazy.

>>24379496
Well, it would still learn and mature parallel to the real Max, and maybe even develop it's own personality (depending on how we set it up), which is why the Sanity is required.

But the real problem is the augments, yeah. They are gonna get out of hand fast as we improve, and I'd rather not do them twice.

>>24379552
i think any mental augs from one affect both even after forking at least that's what I recall Domino saying if i am wrong then you make an ok argument.

I still don't see any reason to get a mind fork. It will help us how?

>>24379614
Searched the archives and I couldn't find anything. Don't know why it would though, it's a separate mind. Maybe Fem could rule one way or the other.

>>24379496
>>24379614
it's not in stasis but it also doesn't automatically benefit from mind augs iirc, it develops on its own but for either side to benefit from what the other is doing/has done the two minds need to synchronize.

>>24379755
The idea is that we can have it focus on studying and learning, freeing up time for us to work on other things. It's just an efficiency thing, plus I know Yin/Yang have it set up with a different personality (their twin's), so they can confer and get different opinions on things.

Honestly, Max is already suffering from enough split-personalities as it is.

>>24379821
>The idea is that we can have it focus on studying and learning, freeing up time for us to work on other things.

But that will only make the mind fork smarter, not Max herself.

>>24379796
>>24379764
we could use a clear ruling on that
>>24379854
that is why you sink them probably every time we sleep would be best

>>24379854
Anything the fork knows, we can get by resynchronizing with it. But it's only things the fork knows, so augs don't transfer, which is the problem.

>>24379854
naah, the two minds synch so max gets the benefit of the studying, my question is how the mind fork is going to study without access to materials to study with, you know what with max being able to go off and do other things while this happens being the entire point.

All in all it's a rather poorly thought out idea at this point.

>>24379892
I think the problem Fem pointed out is that most mental task work on some physical object, for instance books.

>>24379892
Yeah, we're not ready for it yet, if ever. I think Yin or Yang once thought about using a golem as a housing for a fork, but never actually did it.

>>24379880
>that is why you sink them probably every time we sleep would be best

But we only sleep 2 hours per day! Why should we waste so much time for so little?

>>24379926
I don't think you're getting this.

Ideally: the fork spends its time learning whatever. Whenever we want, we can connect with that fork and find out whatever it was that it learned. Now we have that knowledge.

>>24379892
we dont need books to do things like develop spells like the mind drill or emotion field without books they just help. And i will look for info on aug sinking.

>>24379926
the sink in sleep means that the 22 hours we and the fork spent not sleeping get merged.

>>24379884
Hmm, maybe mental augs wouldn't (not sure if we've had a word of Fem on that). But the physical augs damn well should. Also, we could set up a schedule to remerge the forks with us if you don't want to go the twins' route of switching control, remember they weren't the only Lotuses that recommended forking as an avenue for growth.

>>24379922
>and then golem-max murdered real max to claim her family as its own.

>>24379973
>sinking
Syncing.

You're that guy that always says 'weight' instead of 'wait', aren't you?

>>24379913
And yet we have previously improved our alchemy rating by meditating on the subject...

>>24379977
>physical augs affecting a MIND fork

You what.

>>24379984
Or Max and Max-Golem co-Dom the rest of the household and take turns attending class/working on high level spells and synching and new information and ideas they internalize.

>>24380014
Augments are chakra/chi flow rearrangements, right? Why would a mind fork be prevented from influencing the chi flow of the body it's housed in?

>>24380014
>both minds are in the same body

Of course they would apply to both.

>>24380047
Because why would we ever give the fork the ability to control our body?

That is the road to Bad End, sir.

>Captcha: xposses Edna
We'll end up /x/-possessed, just like Edna

>>24380014
say Max-Golem works on health 2 both Maxs share the one body and benefit from the one aug and then Max can work on meditating to health 3 while Max-Golem works on say reduced aging

>>24380014
Apologies, let me rephrase. Do we know whether a mind fork can impose alchemy or sorcery based augments on Max's body?

This thread is reaching ridiculous levels of speculation, Fem please post so that we can move to Daww times with Alison.

>>24380096
second the request. though i dont find this speculation ridiculous just unresolvable it just wastes time.

>>24380083
PERIODS

FOR FUCKS SAKE PUT SOME FUCKING PERIODS

>>24380094
Oh, well, that would depend on who's in control of the body at the time. I imagine that primary-Max would be able to tell immediately if it tried and could contest any changes from there, if necessary.

>>24380096
Nah, at least it's about game mechanics we might one day use, rather than something completely useless.

>>24380142
>mind fork
>not something completely useless for Max

Pick one

New idea: bind a simple mind fork to a spirit and have it roam around the school grounds to spy and learn shit for us. Near-zero effort and we mind find out some interesting things that way.

>>24380154
Oh, I agree that a mind fork is a bad idea, but it's at least worth talking about, especially since some people think it's worth it.

At least some people, now educated in how it works, understand that it's a bad idea, so we maybe avoid some arguments about it in the future.

>>24380172
Why bind a mind fork to it at all and not just build a simple intelligence like we did for Gaviscon?

>>24380172
Why would we need a mind fork for that? We can always use the spell we taught Selene to spy with familiars.

>>24380172
Awful idea. Someone captures it and then they know everything Max does.

Better to just make a simple new mind like Gaviscon.

>>24380172
>spirit is captured
>enemy gains a perfect copy of our mind and memories to fuck around with

>>24380202
>>24380206
>>24380209
Er, yeah, that's what I meant. Have been typing the word "fork" after "mind" far too much this afternoon already.

>>24380071
Ok, we're thinking of forking very differently. I assume you're expecting a fully disting personality that we must fight to retain control of Max from (please confirm?). If so may I point you to our emotional control mind seed spell and the overt mental shackles we've placed on the Meals. I'm thinking something more along the lines of creating a Max mind clone that we full memory sync and real-time sync (put her in a dormant, fully synchronized/semi-reintegrated state) when she's not working on anything in order to prevent divergence. Not really expecting rebellion as long as we keep the lines of communication wide open.

>>24380224
... That is just way too complicated for no reason.

Mind forks are not worth it, and tacking more shit on it does not help.

>>24380250
Rather than a mind fork, we can take memories from others via enchantment, we've done this before.

So just summon up some spirit, make it intelligent enough to learn, bind it in a construct, and let it read books while we're out. Then absorb the information later.

>>24380292
>make it intelligent enough to learn

Do you have any idea how hard this is?

>>24380292
that seems a far better option, hell we can build it a good mind, designed to properly index stuff in memories and use it as a study/work resource.

it'd be our fully automated self expanding resource library.

>>24380314
We can make use of Liz's project to assist with that.

>>24380314
Do you? We've put zero out of class effort into Gaviscon, not counting the dildo mount.

>>24380292
Hmm, not a bad idea. Heck, learning how to brute force raise a spirit/elemental's mind score should probably get us a pixel or two's worth of enchantment growth. Might take awhile though.

>>24380250
It doubles our actions in any game system actions are the most basic currency of power.

>>24380328
This, with Liz handling conjuration elements, and Max on enchantment, it could be done, and Liz and Max could both absorb information from it, so it would be a good joint project.

>>24380349
Fem has said repeatedly that timeskip actions are locked at three, with no exceptions.

>>24380314
>>24380328

You guys are talking about making a spirit intelligent enough TO LEARN MAGIC. That's a bit harder to say the least than making Gaviston learn how to fuck Liz.

>>24380342
>not to hard when we first made Gaviscon he had a mind 0 then mind 1 then he started screaming.

>>24380349
But you just don't learn by osmosis, you have to learn from someone or something. Meaning you have to walk your physical body over to a book to learn.

So it saves exactly zero time.

>>24380330
We should shove him in the Forge when Liz is done with it.

>>24380314
Less hard than balancing an entirely separate self?

You build it on the basis of loyalty and memory, have it categorize new knowledge with reference points to the previous knowledge needed to understand the new stuff, and with an easy to access mind so you can search it, read up on a subject and follow the cross-references.

Even without the construct actually understanding the new material it'd be a huge resource, and we could work its way up to full understanding.

>>24380369
she has stated mind fork as an exception because the fork is another character just like Liz or Lin or dad.

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>>24380292
>Are you trying to steal my knowledge?

Like your idea more than a fork, though.

I hope that Femcock isn't playing a boardgame again.

>>24380396
Gaviscon no longer outputs energy, which is required for the spirit forge to evolve a spirit.

>>24380439
>dat pic
I'd forgotten all about that. We definitely need to make the spirit an owl.

>>24380393
we dont need a book to meditate on knowledge we have which has gotten us xp in the past. We dont need reference material to invent new complex spells. and the fork can do tings like aug our body while we are in class

>>24380439
>Summon a little knowledge spirit by sacrificing some books
>Put it in Liz's forge
>We get out a mini owl
>Name him Mr.Hoots
>Give him glasses
>He reads books all day and shares knowledge
>Total brospirit

D'awwwwwwww

>>24380250
Ok, not arguing for the utility of mind forking there, just against the perceived level of danger that seems to be assumed by some posters in this conversation. Is it dangerous? Any short cut to skill growth is going to be in the scholomance (I'm still waiting for the other shoe to drop with Dane's Living Alchemy training, though there probably isn't one). I just don't understand why so many anons are assuming that any fork will be antagonistic.

Oh, other thought, if someone manages to put a mental whammy on Max it might not be the worst idea to have a back up mind in place to reassertion control before we are used against our family and friends.

>>24380459
>playing a boardgame

>Implying fem isn't without internet again.

>>24380469
>spirit an owl.
>owls are stupid birds
go with a raven or a pair of ravens

>>24380502
Wan Shi Tong isn't stupid.

>>24380478
That was a case of us learning things from class, and then basically going back over them to milk them for the things we missed the first time around.

We didn't just pull that knowledge from thin air.

>>24380292
let's combine the forge made by liz and dad ecosystem to make a hive mind ecosystem that perpetually learn and experiment at industrial rate and keep us updated, acting as a spirit computer, protected in a pocket dimension, generating spell and focus on the fly at our command, using it's vast power.

too ambitious?

>>24380519
he got tricked by a bunch of kids with some string

>>24380543
I want this now. Damn you.

>>24380491
yes this is my point there are risks but most people over blow them Domino's is fine for him.

>>24380502
owls aren't stupid. Theh dont hunt by sight they use sound so you need to train them differently than other hunting birds.

Ravens are smarter though but then they can beet some primates so that's not a fair measure.

>>24380543
FFS man, is it so hard to put some periods? I doubt anyone could read that shit without getting a headache.

>>24380543
Well, why not start with creating a learning spirit to absorb knowledge from, then use that as a basis for a longer term project of the hive consciousness.

>>24380330
We did stabilize it.

>>24380463
All of Gav's excess energy goes into moving his shell. We've have to open him back up into raw elemental form, sit him into the forge, then build a new shell to for him to live in.

>>24380572
The knot counts as knowledge. Barely, but it counts.

>>24380519
>Wan Shi Tong
>not stupid

Anon...

>>24380417
When you put it that way, it sounds like the learning spirit will take a lot longer (over an in game year with us devoting a number of time skip actions to it) than I had initially thought before it would be particularly useful. I'll have to think about this.

Two days and a night of near constant mix of fapping, d'awwing and wizarding I have finally caught up. This quest is a good one.

>>24380439

owls are great, they don't have very large brains though..

>>24380576
And I want to jam a supermassive black hole into a pocket dimension and siphon off its gravity for fuel.

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>>24380606

You take Alison and head up to the entrance room. Your father, Selene, the meals, and the elemental pets are all waiting there anxiously. Alison eyes them all curiously as you head up. "Everyone, this is Alison," you tell them with a smile. "She's my daughter, and a friend," you say. That last part was directed at your dad. He nods approvingly.

Selene rushes up first. "Alison?" she asks, touching her little sister's face. Alison reaches out and touches where Selene doesn't have eyes, looking extremely confused. "I'm your big sister," Selene tells her. "That means I protect you and get to show you how to do stuff."

Your dad comes up and takes her from you. "She's big," he observes with a smile. "Bigger than you were when you hatched, Selene. Cold, too. I wonder if she'll... Well, we'll see, at any rate."

Breakfast comes up to look at her too. "Oh, you're so cute," she says, touching Alison's cheeks with the tips of her fingers. Little tears are welling up in the corners of her eyes. "Little baby Alison."

Lunch just sort of hangs off to the back. The pets wander off bored. Selene tries to look at and touch her sister more.

Eventually, maybe because of all the people crowding around her, Alison starts crying again.

What do you do?

>>24380579
Go to YouTube and watch that video of an owl feeding. Or some anon that has the gif handy please post it. Owls remind me of Snapple.

>>24380527
and if we synch with the fork she can do that then we re synch and have the insights as well.

>>24380543
i would separate those 2 projects for safety reasons no need to power our house on our supercomputer.

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>>24380617
We're gonna need to get Michio Kaku in here to validate this idea.

>>24380579
>owls aren't stupid
most of their small brains are used for visual and auditory senses, not leaving much for intelligence

>>24380648
Tired baby, time for naptime.

>>24380674
And most of their skulls are used to hold their fuckhueg eyeballs anyway, so their brains aren't very large to begin with.

>>24380648
"Aaww, Alison is nervous. Give her some space everyone."

>>24380617
If we somehow make it to sixth circle (or have a reasonable chance of success while in fifth) I will totally fucking support this. I say it rarely, but well done Snapple.

>>24380648
Put her in the spirit forge

>>24380584
actually, we should do research on the most efficient way to acquire knowledge with magic. I'm sure the librarian can point us to a book on the subject.

but please remember that every magic system get broke when you create a magical computer. that like the holy grail of magic.

>>24380703
>Sixth
>Implying Liz won't be able to do it by fourth

>>24380617
That's still leagues above having a ton of elementals do shit for us.

When we get to be able to control black holes, there won't be much use for that anyway.

>>24380703
>I say it rarely, but well done Snapple.

Stop giving him attention, just say "I support this", there is no need to give him a cookie just because he wasn't a fucktard once.

>>24380648
just holder and rock her, put a town wet in the freezer and use that as a blanket she probable likes the cold.

>>24380737
>implying Max will ever be anything but terrible at sorcery and mediocre at conjuration.

>>24380648
ask dad to finish his sentence. I'm getting super bad feeling about it, we should be way more careful.

>>24380648
this >>24380682

also can we pleas get word of god on this question
>>24379796

>>24380761
>>24380682
>>24380695

Those are probably the best suggestions for now. After Alison calms down, ask Dad what did he meant with "Cold, too. I wonder if she'll... Well, we'll see, at any rate."

>>24380792
he means her posable dick

>>24380804
inb4 Alison shits snowballs.

>>24380761
This! She might be getting too warm.

>>24380834
we want to also give her a normal blanket to keep her from getting to cold.

>>24380748
Actually, I think she (for the first time the coin i flip for Snapples' assumed gender came up heads, so she's a girl for the day) craves the negative feed back more, so I'm unwilling to comment on the crazy besides "No. Don't." that she actually came up with something not only worth supporting but worthy of praise deserves some kind of acknowledgement, I think.

>>24380872
>she
Am I a pretty girl?

>>24380648
Breakfast clearly wants kids at some point.

We need to take her off to the side at some point and tell her that she'll be able to have kids later but for now it's too dangerous to risk her getting pregnant, or to raise a child.

>>24380897
Absolutely not.

>>24380907
Her tubes have been permanently burned out. She can never have children.

>>24380648
Assuming that we're skipping class we should text Liz that we won't be back and that Alison's fine, then get Alison cool, comfortable (I hope we made a bigger crib over the time skip)and napping before summoning a cold spirit as a base to make her a familiar/air conditioner.

>>24380950
There's always...

MAGIC

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>>24380656
This one?

>>24380950
We're learning living alchemy, we can in fact fix that, also surrogation, pulling eggs out of her ovaries and planting them in her womb yada yada, there are ways.

>>24380950
We've got Living Alchemy. At some point down the line, we can fix them.

>>24380966
That was not the right gif.

>>24380950
Living alchemy can fix that.
Not to mention mundane invetro surrogacy.

Rolled 98

>>24380897
Let's find out
1-10 no comment
11-35 wouldn't do her
36-45 how drunk was I?
46-60 a 1 on the binary scale (all I will admit to)
61-70 cute
71-80 attractive
81-85 I'd do 'er
86-90 salivating
91-95 insta-boner
96-99 would consider subbing
100 almost makes up for Snapples in game personality...

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>>24381104

haha.

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>>24381104
>The dicegods say Snapple is hot

>>24380897
Well, according to /tg/ dice (>>24381104) you are slightly hotter than Helen of Troy (assuming she was actually that hot and not being used as a pretext for Agamemnon to start a war).

>>24381104
We should sacrifice snapple to the dicegods.

>>24381129
Hmm, the version I've seen is slightly longer, but yeah, that's it. There's another one somewhere out there that has a smaller owl with what I assume is a larger rat that basically ended any romantic notions of owls as wise and stately birds for me, but I haven't seen it in years.

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>>24381231
I don't know, they seem to favor his rolls, so that could just piss them off.

>>24381254
Mein godt

>>24381143
We already knew that with how much love they show him.

>>24381254
Those skeletal arms are just... gah. The whole thing looks fake besides.

"Okay," you say, taking Alison back from your father. "Everyone stop crowding up around her. This is a lot for her to take in." She clings to you and you notice that she's sweating, despite being cool to the touch. You climb up to the kitchen with Breakfast and Selene close on your heels. Your dad heads off to continue work on the spirit ecosystem; he finished the basement's warding earlier in the week.

Once you get to the kitchen, you get a hand towel, soak it briefly in ice water, wring it out, and then use it to dab at Alison's forehead, temples, and back. She relaxes at that, enjoying the cooling. She might need some kind of method of keeping cool - magical or otherwise - to stay comfortable, unless she gets more tolerant of higher temperature as she ages. She eventually falls asleep, drooling on your shoulder, and Selene comes over to stroke her needles while Breakfast just watches and smiles.

What do you do now?

Freya will obviously be strong, we should share with her some trainning/work out equipment. Get her to like working out early on and get the best of her fertilizers.

That said, I'd say it's about time we start teaching Selene some magic. Just some small stuff for now, to get her interested; once she's bigger and more capable, I guess she will improve her magic by herself.

>>24381334
>Freya
Her name is Alison. It's going to be really obnoxious if you keep doing that.

>>24381254

DSEL

>>24381329

we should ask Liz for help with creating an ice construct to accompany her so it can keep her cool.

>>24381334
We've already shown Selene how to use the sensory spell and a basic Enchantment-based method of mind detection.

>>24381329
Go talk to Dad, I wanna know what he was gonna say before.

>>24381329
>cooling system

We should ask Hera about this, she has experience with enviromental suits.

>>24381329
Let's make her a stretchy onesie and bind an ice elemental into it.

>>24381361
We could just create a temperature regulating permanent foci. Liz's collar was designed to absorb ambient temperature for power, so modifying that to cool Alison shouldn't be too complicated.

>>24381329
Put her to bed. Do we have any way of keeping her cool while she sleeps?

>>24381361
Perhaps we could get that water dragon to evolve into an ice dragon, and act as her familiar?
After all, Selene has Fap and it'd only be fair to give our next daughter her own elemental familiar

>>24381364

I mean start educating her on it. Grabbing her everyday and teach her something new and interesting, even if she hasn't asked for it right now.

>>24381329
We should call call Liz's water elemental to keep Alison cool (name it Dihidragon monoxide)

>>24381367
That's a pretty good idea, actually.

>>24381397
>>24381367
>>24381361
>>24381364

We have the water elemental. For now I suggest commanding it to be near her at all times as a flying AC.