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    16 KB Sorry for the late start, something came up. TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/21/12(Sat)23:05 No.18809839  
    You are former Imperial Navy captain Elyssa von Braun, the Planetary Governor of the planet Daysimir, appointed following the previous corrupt, incompetent, and, as it turned out, Tau-Sympathizing Governor Rodoris Caliphate the Sixths removal from office for failure to pay the Imperial Tithes.

    The world itself is somewhat larger than Terra and has gravity roughly 10% higher, along being notably richer in mineral resources, it also has deposits of several useful substances not found on Ancient Terra. It's population of 3 billion 42 million souls (The old Governor was fastidious about keeping up population census, if nothing else of practical value. Your staff has carried on the tradition) is spread more or less evenly across the single inhabitable mega-continent of Daysimir, stretching from pole to pole and containing a wide variety of environments. The planet is dotted with smaller island chains and landmasses, but due to harsh climates they are populated only by research and weather-observation outposts, along with the occasional goat herd that remains only because they have no means of leaving. You have recently begun using the worst of these isles as harsh-environment training camps for your PDF.

    Aside from divergent continents the planet is practically the twin of Ancient Terra, having been terraformed and seeded with Terran life forms during the Dark Age of Technology, the planet has both a massive moon similar to Luna and a range of trace minerals nearly identical to Old Earth, meaning that the population of Daysimir, unlike most other planets in the Imperium, does not require regular supplementary pills to make up for trace minerals that the planet is deficient in.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/12(Sat)23:07 No.18809861
    I've been waiting for this forever!
    >> Opening text, please hold your posts and read thoroughly. TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/21/12(Sat)23:08 No.18809874
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    The people of Daysimir are a hardy, independent, and freedom-loving folk, heavily armed and used to telling authority figures to go to Hell when their interference becomes annoying. Many of them were veterans of the conquest of the planet by the Tau Empire, and the following guerrilla war to free it. Resistance forces eventually won with the help of Eldar strike-teams from Exodite worlds in the sector and a nearby Craftworld. After 12 years of bloody guerrilla warfare beside their Eldar allies, along with the occasional Gue’Vesa or Kroot Turncloaks, the people of Daysimir shed the Imperial propaganda that the Ecclesiarchy had managed to hammer into the population after Imperial forces shut down their trade with nearby Xenos Empires. Since the end of the war the neither the Ecclesiarchy or anti-Xenos propaganda have been welcome on Daysimir, and clandestine trade with old Eldar allies continues in the wilderness to this day, far from prying eyes. The general population (All adults from 18-40) have been recently inducted into a Planetary Militia and are trained to Imperial Guard standards, armed with lasguns, flak vests, and Ragnarok tanks.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/21/12(Sat)23:09 No.18809891
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    It was because of this bloody-minded independence, martial spirit, and near-total disregard for the ancient Laws of the Imperium that Governor Rodoris was blocked from tyrannizing his people, by fear of a planet-wide rebellion, and was thus limited to squandering tax money on a lavish palace and personal pleasures instead of holding his populace in an iron grip as he had intended. The Governor was eventually removed from power when he began cracking down on the ancient civil rights of the planets citizens. Imperial authorities in the sector feared that a successful rebellion (As the PDF had atrophied from constant embezzling of funds for several decades) would encourage unrest across dozens of worlds and removed him from office. The planet is also unusual in that most positions normally held by Techpriests are instead occupied by civilian engineers and technicians, leaving the Techpriests in control of only the most complex and advanced pieces of machinery and greatly reducing the amount of influence the AdMech holds over the planetary government. The population of Daysimir boasts both a very low rate of mutation and almost twice the number of Geneseed-Compatible citizens, making it a popular recruiting world for fleet-based Astartes Chapters. This was also one of the main factors in the Iron Dragons Chapter deciding to settle on Daysimir as their Homeworld.
    >> Opening text, please hold your posts and read thoroughly. TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/21/12(Sat)23:12 No.18809926
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    The planet is also home to several million Ogryns living in tribal groups on the northern reaches of your world, which has had the effect of making your people far more tolerant of Abhumans and even more mistrustful of the Ecclesiarchy. Until the Tau occupation and Rodoris the Sixth’s disastrous appointment to Governor, it was customary for the Regiments Ogryn attachment to simply be recruited from their homeworld. You have started recruiting and training these Abhumans into your PDF.

    The Nobilis Proscriptae Sector is located on the farthest reaches of the Eastern Fringe, being far enough away from both the Tau Empire and Ultramarine space to keep interference by both parties to a minimum. In the immediate sub-sector (Called Kri by the local merchants) there are three Civilized worlds, eight Frontier worlds (Backwater Civilized worlds with little to no Imperial presence, often ignore Imperial laws concerning trade with Xenos, although this is true of most of the sector) one Feudal world, and a Death World that is the proud home of the fiercest and most highly decorated Regiment in the sector.

    In the sector at large is more of the same, a mix of Frontier and Civilized worlds with a peppering of feudal and feral worlds. In the capitol system of the sector there is one Hive World (Magnoris, the Sector Capitol) one Forge World, two civilized worlds, one Agri-world, and a very lucrative asteroid belt mining colony.
    >> Opening text, please hold your posts and read thoroughly. TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/21/12(Sat)23:14 No.18809953
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    Of the Xenos presence in the sector, there are four major Empires: The Xin'Tar Warrior Hives to the "Southern” edge of the sector, the Kraan Hegemony to the North, The Jarki stars to the center of the sector, and an unknown reptilian race run by a "Cabal" in the East (And that's right near you!). There are also five Eldar Exodite Worlds, three Ork worlds, two of which were once Imperial, (which are a constant pain in the ass) and one Daemon world (Which is a bigger pain in the ass to everyone than everything else in the sector combined). There are also several dozen minor Xenos races whose dominions extend over only one planet.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/12(Sat)23:19 No.18809999
    >>18809953
    This might be asking a bit much but can you do a quick space map up in paint showing the planets and location?
    >> Anonymous 04/21/12(Sat)23:25 No.18810087
    >>18809999
    Goddammit I hate you so fucking much, now we gotta wait half a freaking hour.
    >> Opening text, please hold your posts and read thoroughly. TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/21/12(Sat)23:26 No.18810102
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    Items of interest:

    Your PDF has grown in size from 300,000 to 12 million, and numbers increase every day. They are equipped as a Combined Arms force, although lacking in Air and Sea power.

    You have begun local production of the Chimera APC and Ragnarok MBT (A Leman Russ alternative developed during the Krieg War, designed to be as simple to construct as possible, essentially a Plasteel box on treads with a cannon and Heavy Stubber) to supply your PDF and export on the inter-planetary market. The Ragnaroks initially took the place of Leman Russ tanks in much of your PDF due to sheer shortage of the latter. The Departmento Munitorum has corrected this, however, although they still struggle to supply your rapidly growing PDF. Ragnarok tanks that have been recently replaced by the more effective Leman Russ are being placed in storage; your advisers are recommending that you sell them off.

    Former Resistance leader Davos Ithkael has started a Planetary Militia, training troops up to the standards of modern day U.S. Marine Marksmen and arming them with Flak Armor, lasguns, Heavy Stubbers, Autocannons, and Ragnarok Tanks. The Planetary Government has taken command of this force and is now supplying arms and funding.

    Your PDF has been armed with a improved mark of the no.98 Lucius Pattern lasgun used by the Krieg regiments, packs more punch at the expense of using more ammunition, has been upgraded with longer range, is even more durable than the standard, and comes with an advanced targeting system that replaces the standard IG iron sights, although they are still included in case the targeting scope fails or is destroyed.

    An improved mark of Flak Armor, commonly used by the Elysian Regiments, is being distributed to your PDF, old flak armor is being kept in storage.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/12(Sat)23:28 No.18810120
    >>18810087
    Are you trying to tell me the quads are lying?
    >> Anonymous 04/21/12(Sat)23:30 No.18810143
    >>18810120
    >caring about the post number
    >>>/b/
    >> Opening text, please hold your posts and read thoroughly. TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/21/12(Sat)23:36 No.18810198
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    The Iron Dragons have discovered one of the original Dark Age settlements on the mountainside of your greatest mountain range, a factory hidden from scouring winds in the skull of a huge fossilized Dragon-like creature buried in the mountain. The Iron Dragons have taken the discovery of a Dark Age forge located INSIDE an ancient Drake on the side of a mineral-rich mountain as an obvious sign, and are constructing their Fortress-Monastery there, incorporating the super-strong fossilized bones into their Monastery as its foundation and support structure.

    The Iron Dragons have been delighted to discover within he ancient manufactorum several Dark Age Fabricators that produce 300% more efficiently than the ones they possess, still in working condition, and the STC printout to construct some kind of automated mining and mineral refinement facility.

    The Iron Dragons have finished reverse-engineering the PDF vehicles you sent them, and you now have the patterns for most standard Imperial Guard vehicles. The Master of the Forge has been designing a new mark of tank based on combing the Leman Russ Vanquisher with an old “Abrams” tank design, apparently dating back to before the Dark Age of Technology that was discovered on a Dead World recently by the Dragons. Prototypes have shown much promise.

    Many of the Iron Dragons not on active duty have begun to lead normal lives among the people of your planet after the fashion of their Parent Salamanders; the population has come to trust and accept them, and volunteers for induction into their vaunted ranks are plentiful. One Brother-Sargent has started a pizza delivery business in your Capitol.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/12(Sat)23:37 No.18810202
    >>18810102
    Lets see if the sector government would be willing to purchase the tanks. I imagine they're hard pressed for military stuff because of all the xenos and chaos.
    >> Opening text, please hold your posts and read thoroughly. TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/21/12(Sat)23:40 No.18810248
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    The civilians that came with the Iron Dragons, mostly the families of recruits that were offered to come with their Aspirant sons and work as crewmen on the Chapter fleet (One of the reasons why the Dragons empathize so much with normal humans), have settled on the planets surface, most in the harsh icy regions near the Fortress Monastery, the rest as near the Chapter Bastions as they could.

    Centauran wheat has replaced all previous varieties as both a staple and long-term storage food. Although there have been some problems with its adaption to local soil chemistry, privately owned Agricultural labs are correcting this by cross-breeding it with local varieties.

    The Herbs you purchased, medicinal, edible, and recreational, have become popular garden plants planet-wide and are becoming a minor export item.

    Sarian Bell Flowers have become a great source of profit for wealthy business ventures specializing in rare plants, they grow well in the native soil, although they require climate-controlled greenhouses to thrive, and already they are becoming a profitable export. Many advanced Pharmaceuticals have been derived from the plant.

    Infrastructure Repair is complete.

    Orbital Defense Repair is 70% complete (Sped up thanks to Iron Dragons Techmarines)

    Orbital Docking station Amir is repaired and functional, an increase in inter-planetary trade has already been noticed.

    Dozens of defunct Orbital Defense Platforms have been towed back into orbit for repair. 6 have been brought online so far and have been outfitted with improved scanners, 12 more will be functional within the next few months.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/12(Sat)23:41 No.18810266
    >>18810202
    Might work, Emperor knows we are going to need as much cash as we can get our hands on with the recent casualties we have suffered.
    >> Opening text, please hold your posts and read thoroughly. TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/21/12(Sat)23:50 No.18810385
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    >Orbital Defense repair is actually 98%, not 70%. Forgot to update that bit.

    Your scribes have found no items of heretical nature among the old books, tomes, and fragments of text purchased from the Rogue Trader. You have loaned these tomes to your new University.

    You are constructing a combination University and Art School, along with a nearby Military Academy. Construction is 58%.

    You are fortifying your cities and building large bunkers in key points within them that are capable of holding out against entire armies of ground opponents and provide limited defense to defending forces against Orbital Bombardment.

    One of your scribes believes he has identified the location of the star system etched onto the Xenos Helm you purchased earlier, somewhere in the neighboring Sector...

    You have finished training a much more relaxed local version of the Commissar that lead by heroic example on the battlefield and preach a hybrid of a much more Freedom-Oriented Divine Mandate and a very liberal and vague version of the Imperial Creed. The normal Commissars attached to your PDF are having trouble adjusting to their presence.

    You have finished construction of statues of the Emperor and his loyalist Primarchs around your Palace. You have also built a monument to the freedom fighters whose lives were lost in the war against the Tau.

    You have integrated the former Resistance into your PDF as a Special Forces corps or as officers in the rest of the PDF. Davos Ithkael has been given a position on your staff as a military adviser.
    >> Opening text, please hold your posts and read thoroughly. TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/22/12(Sun)00:08 No.18810605
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    >Construction of bunkers and fortifications is also complete, forgot to update THAT bit too.

    One of your cities was recently raided by a Chaos Warband, the Iron Dragons got info on it from Sector ommand after the battle:

    Obviously a massive warband, but since the Champion was both a greedy bastard and something of a coward he decided that, instead of invading a planet and fighting a long and grueling war he would probably lose, he would just raid planets with the force of a Chaos Army, pick a particularly wealthy but not too well defended city, loot it, take the population as slaves, and burn it to the ground relying on brute force, strength in numbers, and getting in and out fast to allow them to essentially steal a city. After his Raider (Modified with expensive Stealth gear to be virtually undetectable by all but the most advanced scanners, the go-to ship for getting his forces to and from a planet fast) was taken his forces started to lose what little cohesion they had just in time for the Iron Dragons to Deep Strike 9/10ths of their entire Chapter directly into the combat zone, followed by missile bombardment and the Guard moving in as the Anvil to the Iron Dragons hammer. They were slaughtered, and Chapter Master Raltus Ar'kryn literally tore their Champion into pieces. Now Warlord Kraktor is pissed because you exterminated his most disciplined, largest, strongest, and most loyal warband, killed one of his best Champions, and deprived him of his primary source of Tithed loot and slaves. All the other raiders are pissed at you for killing one of their own, but aren't going to risk their necks trying for you after what happened to the Fist of Chaos Warband.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)00:26 No.18810866
    >>18810815
    let them dock, but send notice to the Iron Dragons.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)00:26 No.18810867
    >>18810858
    What class of vessel is the Stealth Raider? Is this an Astartes vessel?
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/22/12(Sun)00:27 No.18810883
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    Your population has gained Hatred: Emperors Children and Hatred: Chaos Worshipers.

    You have received a text transmission from Ghaldmoris (Daemon World) that says your transgression will be remembered. Enemy Gained: Ghaldmoris Raiders. Enemy Gained: Warlord Kraktor.

    Reputation gained: Biter. You successfully eliminated the largest and most feared Chaos Warband in the sector, future raiders will steer clear from you.

    The Iron Dragons have claimed all of the Astartes gear, the Imperial Guard gear will be turned over to you once it has been cleansed of Chaos taint. The Warbands fleet has been captured and their ships are being similarly cleansed. All but the Stealth Raider, which you will keep as the beginning of the Daysimir SDF, will be turned over to Sector Command.

    Various construction projects: 2% complete (It would take me half an hour to list them all)

    The local Sisters of Battle Covenant has established an outpost in the ruined city to ensure that that all traces of Chaos taint have been removed. They are willing to negotiate making the outpost permanent (Your population won't like this very much).

    An Ultramarine Battlebarge and two Strike Cruisers have arrived with three companies of Ultramarines, and are requesting permission to dock.

    >Action, Governor?
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)00:27 No.18810887
    >>18810858
    We have prepared long and hard for this day. Welcome them.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)00:28 No.18810900
    >>18810866
    was meant to go to >>18810883
    I have no idea WTF just happened.
    >> RollPlayer 04/22/12(Sun)00:28 No.18810904
    The matter of the Sister outpost is something to consider later. Firstly we send word to the ID regarding the Ultras and then grant the Ultras a docking permission
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)00:30 No.18810929
    >>18810883
    What is the name of the Ultramarines Battle Barge? Is there any information we can glean from that?
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/22/12(Sun)00:34 No.18810995
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    >All those planetary improvments from the last thread that we can't afford.

    Obviously we need to increase our manufacturing capacity, especially in regards to building supplies/equipment. The faster/cheaper we can build improvements, the better.

    We should start distributing information about personal recycling and shit, and have stiff fines for illegal pollution, as well as offering subsidies to businesses that have effective recyling programs up.

    By reducing pollution and keeping our planet clean, we naturally help out our toursim.

    Kinda iffy on the Sisters and Smurfs, they're inflexible attitute is bound to conflict with the planet's more... liberal culture.

    (In the future, you might want to have the opening text in a pastebin file and just link it in the opening post, it'll save you a bunch of time making all those posts, and we'll be able to start the thread 75 minutes earlier judging by the delay of this threa.)
    >> Editor 04/22/12(Sun)00:38 No.18811051
    Take two tech level improvements in a row for free from the sector governor.

    Failing that, take the tech advancement and the most expensive economic improvement (probably the spaceports).

    We need to make an IMMEDIATE public address (I have a speech ready) on the attack to solidify things with the people regarding the following points:

    -news of the attack
    -news of successful counteroffensive and annihilation of warband
    -thanks to the victorious parties
    -casualty numbers
    -statement of contrition re: casualties and strategic oversight, statement relating it to predecessor
    -commitment to fixing oversight
    -commitment to creating memorial with every known victim name
    -commitment to rebuilding city
    -change city name to Raider's Grief, change port name to Port Pius, maybe name raider after hero of the raid
    -commitment to caring for survivors, Schola for orphans
    -personal contributions, open hand to others to help with further contributions
    -commitment to making world safe from such future attacks
    -commitment to the creation of a stronger military force and possibly to the daemon world's destruction or to confronting the threat
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/22/12(Sun)00:41 No.18811084
    >>18810995
    >they're
    Dammit

    Anyways, that Deathworld in the system, I think we should send our Special Forces there for some harsh enviro training, the sending the entire PDF would be too much of a hassle, and seeing as their main duty is to defend a planet not nearly as harsh would seem rather wasteful, however, sending our PDF there might toughen them up even more, and improve on their unconventional warfare.

    Who doesn't want Catachan Stormtroopers after all?
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/22/12(Sun)00:43 No.18811119
    >>18810866
    >> 18810867

    The Iron Dragons Fleet is already on high alert and is staying within weapons range of the vessels, three full companies and the Chapter Master are waiting to meet them aboard the docking station. They are preparing to dock now.

    It's a Light Cruiser that has been so heavily modified, not even counting Chaos corruption, that it stands in a class all its own.

    >>18810900
    >>18810929

    >I forgot my pic, and deleted and re-posted it before I saw your replies. Sorry.

    The Shield of the Codex.

    The greeting goes better than you expected. An observer reports that both parties are currently making their way to the surface. Apparently the Ultramarines received messages from an intimidating number of Chapters (Including the Space Wolves and Salamanders), Navy Splinter Fleets, Imperial Guard Regiments, Skitarii Legions, and Titan Legions that the Iron Dragons are a trustworthy and loyal Chapter, and that engaging them in open combat would be a bad idea for many, many reasons.

    >>18810995
    >>18811051

    You used both free Planetary Improvements in the last thread.

    >http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/18717305/

    Upgrading your planets total Tech Level was off the table, as not even the Sector Governor was willing to shell out that much with problems of his own back home.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)00:44 No.18811129
    Also on the subject of our newly obselete Ragnaroks, how many do we have sitting around taking up space? Would our Rogue Trader friend accecpt them as currency?
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/22/12(Sun)00:47 No.18811162
    >>18811084
    >>18811051

    The Death World is not in the system, it's half the sub-sector away, send a message inquiring about a training program on their planet?

    Give speech before or after the Ultramarines arrive on the planets surface?
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)00:47 No.18811169
    >>18811119
    What would we know as the Sector Governor's most obvious problems? Good to keep in mind if something comes up that we can help him with.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)00:48 No.18811174
    >>18811162
    After.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/22/12(Sun)00:48 No.18811180
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    >>18811051
    The recycling/pollution improvement could likely be somewhat allieved with an information campaign to increase recycling/reduce pollution, increased fines for pollution and subsides for more enviromentally safe methods/research, I for one would like to build the mag rails, as having multiple starports in our cities seems like a way to increase our vulnerabilty to foreign infiltrators, I'd much rather increase the size of our main starport, allowing it to handle more traffic, and putting all filtering all potential subversives through one point. (Naturally the spaceport's security would also get a huge upgrade.)

    Check as to the reason why our advanced sensors failed, they're specifically designed to detect sealth ships.

    We should also use some money to improve our roads, 10c sounds pretty damn cheap to me.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/22/12(Sun)00:50 No.18811203
    >>18811129

    Several million. Malector is long gone, however. He decided that unless he's being hired on as a mercenary commander, he's not going anywhere near a possible battle between two Space Marine Chapters.
    >> Editor 04/22/12(Sun)00:50 No.18811204
    >>18811162
    WAY before. Pastan speech.

    Immediately after finishing dealing with the attack, if a bit of redaction/time-travel/whatever is possible, or ASAP, inform all visual and audio communications networks that you are making a planet-wide address to the populace.

    On-camera, sit down at whatever passes for your office desk with the statue of Malcador the Sigilite in the background, wearing your naval uniform.

    "My fellow citizens, good evening. A short while ago I ordered our Planetary Defense Force's entry into the city of Rtoas to aid in the elimination of hostile targets present therein, which consisted of the Fist of Chaos warband out of Ghaldmoris. The city militia had bravely and effectively met the attack, and the PDF and Iron Dragons detachments entered the area as swiftly as they could to neutralize the enemy's unwarranted, unprovoked, and cold-blooded ending of the lives of some ninety-seven thousand civilians, militia, and military personnel and sack of much of the city, which included the destruction of the City Hall with its flags and symbols of the people and government of Daysimir."

    Continued.
    >> Editor 04/22/12(Sun)00:51 No.18811222
    >>18811204

    Cont's.

    "The ordered counteroffensive of the PDF, with the assistance of the Iron Dragons and with the incredible sacrifice made by local militia, was successful in its portion of the joint strike against the raiders and culminated in the utter annihilation of the warband. Were it not for the known capacities of our world's citizenry in repelling hostile forces with far greater quantities of war materiel and strike capacity, I would go so far as to say that the militia's success was incredibly surprising; it is, I am assured, nearly unheard of for the sacrifice of citizen militia to be as harshly felt by our enemies, for which I can only salute the residents of Rtoas, living or dead, for their part in this effort. The Iron Dragon and PDF response came in as fast as possible at a time after the initial incursion and ended the conflagration, and they along with Adepta Sororitas personnel from the Order of Sworn Swords have worked to assist survivors, secure the battlefield, cleanse the city of persistent threats to body and soul."

    Cont'd.
    >> Editor 04/22/12(Sun)00:53 No.18811244
    >>18811222
    Cont'd.

    "I feel it would likely be appropriate at this time to express our gratitude for the incredible effort and sacrifice made by the citizens and militia, which broke the momentum of the Raider incursion when all it might be expected to do on other worlds was serve as a cushion for their landing, and to the Iron Dragons, without whom the counteroffensive might have stretched on far longer and the losses been far higher and the Emperor's Will been much harder to carry out, and to the personnel and tacticians of the PDF whose role was indispensable in putting these traitors to the sword. In addition, gratitude is due to the Order of Sworn Swords for their aid. It should be noted that casualties were incurred by the PDF including the special operations units active in the counteroffensive and by the Iron Dragons themselves, God rest their souls, as well as an Order member who died in the line of duty while seeking to contain dangerous enemy equipment. Decorations will be extended to these as well as to the great many in the militia who gave life and limb to secure our world."

    "I must express my contrition regarding the strategic oversight that allowed this band of traitorious rabble to bypass the bulk of our world's defenses and pressing their attack. Responsibility lies with the office of Governor for such affairs, and even if this massive oversight is due to the obsessions and infidelities of my predecessor, the mistake is also in part mine. To that effect, I am today announcing the formation of a plan to overhaul the tactical preparedness and strategic breadth of our defense network, including air and naval defenses and mobile anti-aircraft units among a number of other priorities..."

    Cont's.
    >> Editor 04/22/12(Sun)00:53 No.18811255
    >>18811244
    Cont'd.
    "...If we complete these efforts, they will not again be able to take such measures against us and no community will have to fear the hammer of raiders again, whether it is a well-to-do port city or a village hamlet."

    "I will commit as well to the rebuilding of the city and the raising of a memorial to those lost and harmed by the attack; with current government funds and a personal donation totalling half the cost and assistance from the government of the Sector itself totalling three-eighths of the cost, we are well positioned to complete fundraising and begin the reconstruction process immediately. I will encourage those among the citizenry who are so inclined to give donations towards this effort, in terms of financial assistance or labor, with litened tithes and ready construction contracts and other work in the area for the duration of reconstruction and perhaps beyond. While I am confident that this is far from necessary, it is too rare that generosity is rewarded in this existance, and so I will act to correct it in my own small way."
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/22/12(Sun)00:53 No.18811262
    >Totally missed the purchase of the PI's
    Whoops, sorry about that, the whole thing happened after I went to sleep.
    >> Editor 04/22/12(Sun)00:54 No.18811275
    >>18811255

    Cont's.

    "Local artisans and scholars of art from our newly created university and institutes will be commissioned to assist in creating the people's memorial in the afflicted city, should this be amenable to the residents that suffered so for it. I would propose that the name of every known victim and veteran be carved somewhere on the surface of this memorial, to preserve a record of their deeds, and in this matter as in the rebuilding of the city I will gladly contribute personal funds now and in the years to come, and will seek the assistance of those capable of doing so in ensuring that the finances are not an issue. In addition, I would ask the populace to consider renaming the city Raider's Grief, in remembrance of how the enemy was shattered and made desperate in its grip, and the port after Saint Pius to commemorate how the local militia made a great sacrifice so like his own, regardless of the hopelessness of the situation. The enemy's captured raider, which will be the first of a number of vessels in our system defense fleet, will likely be named after a militia hero from this conflict."

    "To the survivors of the assault in the region and elsewhere, I say this: your government will extend its hand to you in your time of need, should you wish it. Supply runs were made almost voluntarily by civilian pilots with atrocious casualties in the heat of crisis, but you have much trouble hanging over you still. We will do what we can to assuage it, and this begins today. I will board a transport personally and go to the afflicted zones with relief workers to aid what assistance I can to the recovery effort..."

    Cont'd.
    >> Editor 04/22/12(Sun)00:55 No.18811295
    >>18811275
    Cont'd.

    "Additionally, we will locally open a Schola to take in those young victims of the assault that have lost their families and are now orphaned. Let it not be said that we cannot care for our own, or abandon children to the hopelessness of a life among ruins."

    "The world must be made safe from future attacks of this nature. We must create a far more capable military defense network, with forces able to act in concert in a number of ways to prevent such assaults. We must be able to confront the threat looming over us, by Right of Conquest if in no other way. I cannot stand idly by and let our world be put at such risk again, and so I will say to those enemies that may be listening now: harm a Daysimiri, any Daysimiri, and we will work to return to you with total disaster. We may strike you as weak - we may strike you as worth only of comparison to flora, but we thrive as does our namesake on the loose soil over newly-covered graves. Misstep once, and we will gladly bury you and grow tall on the nourishment of your bones. If you hear from a traveler that they are of this world, if you harm those who tell you the watchwords 'Civis Daysimir,' you have only brought yourself closer to your own destruction."

    "I will also speak to some matters that are more current. I understand many of you question my decision to establish the Order of Sworn Swords on our world. Rest assured that their presence will be limited simply by the Order's function - they do not seek to cease in their efforts to cleanse the sector of threats, and will not sit idly by concerning themselves with trivialities here. To suspect so would be to go too far."

    Cont's.
    >> Editor 04/22/12(Sun)00:56 No.18811303
    >>18811295
    Continues and ends.

    "Rest assured, however, that once hazards are curtailed in the city the Order is operating in and their role in cleanup efforts are finished, I will seek to transfer them to the portion of our world which houses the greatest concentration of the Imperial faith so as to not trouble you. In addition, I will seek to establish a Crusader House based on the ideals of our own Promethean faith, as practised by portions of the PDF and by the Iron Dragons, and offer them the chance to train with the ORder should this be amenable; this will provide us with our own anointed warriors to combat future threats and assist, perhaps, in any future need for cleanup efforts when hazards of this sort arise, and should free up the Order to fulfill more of the Emperor's Will across the sector as they see the need for it."

    "Finally, I will seek to increase the technical capacities of our world so that we may create greater defensive works, perhaps culminating in our abilities being patterned after the Skitarii legions or Knight Households of the great Mechanicus households, but under the aegis and guidance of the Promethean Cult. This will greatly increase our battle-readiness and the ability of a given soldier to serve a long career, as well as allowing us to repair grevious injuries to both citizenry and military personnel from the greater understanding this would grant of cybernetics and medicae, not to mention giving any raiders something to be terrified of."

    "With that, I will wish you well and proceed in my own labors, likewise hoping you will meet with success in yours."
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)00:59 No.18811363
    >>18811180
    Focus on infrastructure first, and say, establish two Official spaceports (One for the capital, and then the largest or second largest city,) to get the attention for improvements, and then build a magrail system and improve our Road network.
    But the Space port in the capital must be the grandest, easiest to navigate and cleanest spaceport on the planet.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)01:03 No.18811421
    Is there any planet in the sector that could sell us ships to start a sea navy, or can we make ships ourselves? Also being on a supercontinent planet how useful is marine trade and do we have pirate problem?
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/22/12(Sun)01:04 No.18811439
    >>18811204
    >>18811222
    >>18811244
    >>18811255
    >>18811295
    >>18811303
    >Editor dropping another speech
    Dude are you an offical speechwriter or something, I mean holy hell.

    Also we should make a patriotic movie celebrating our triumph overr the most insidious agents of the Ruinous Powers. Starring Gel Mibson, it'll be a movie that doesn't let reality get in the way of a good story.

    >>18811363
    I don't see any problems with this, but I want to keep our spaceports to a minimum, for security reasons, also we should put genetic screenings on any airports we have too.

    >We still haven't found the souce of the genestealers that were killed by Broquisitor.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/22/12(Sun)01:07 No.18811467
    >>18811303
    >>18811180
    >>18811169

    The Ultramarines are descending to the planets surface right now, they will be in your Capitol within the hour.

    Just to clarify something, Is that Schola one of the Ecclessiarchy ones (Trains orphans into Commissars and Sisters of Battle from an early age) or just a local orphanage/school?

    You have also not talked with the Sisters about making the outpost permanent yet, and they may not take it well if you announce this before they agree to it.

    Sector Governors greatest problems in order: Daemon World, Ork World #1, Ork World #2 (Former Imperial world) and Ork World #3 (Former Forge World, conquered by Orks 300 years ago, three looted Titan Legions), and the plethora of local Void Pirates.

    You have 6 C in your Treasury. Spend 4 C on a program to counter rising pollution levels?
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)01:08 No.18811485
    >>18811467
    Yeah. Let's try to keep the planet from turning into the usual poisonous desert imperial planets tend to end up as.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)01:11 No.18811522
    >>18811439
    Perhaps it could be based around the ex resistance fighter who took up a Pulse Cannon and decided it was open season on Obliterators. That guy was wounded and survived, right? Give that badass a medal if he didn't get something already... cause yeah.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)01:13 No.18811551
    >>18811467
    Weren't we going to try and found our own sisters of battle based around the local cult?
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)01:13 No.18811559
    >>18811439
    I was thinking if it's a huge distance, it might be cheaper for now to just hire a few extra cleaners at the second space port, then build the maglev system out from the capitol. But Security should be a big thing on both systems.

    >>18811467
    Yes. And run some PSAs next to it.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/22/12(Sun)01:18 No.18811630
    >>18811421
    >>18811439
    >>18811467
    >>18811522

    >Reverse order on the list of Ork world, conquered Forge World is obviously the biggest threat, followed by former Imperial world, and then Ork world that just has Orks as far as Sector Command knows. Void Pirates still come in last.

    He's been awarded the local Medal of Valor and the Bleeding Angel (Purple-Heart equivalent and a nod to the Primarch of the Blood Angels)

    You can build a sea navy yourself. However, there is no Imperial Standard for seagoing navies, so you'll either have to buy another planets designs or design your own.

    There are dozens of island chains and a few subcontinents close enough to the main Continent that they are quite habitable, however settlements there were wiped out by weaponized Weather-Control technology used by the Tau, and it's only in the last 10 years that human habitation has begun creeping back into the coasts.

    >>18811559

    Done, you now have 2 C in your Treasury.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)01:19 No.18811636
    >>18811551
    As totally kickass as it would be to create our own Sisterhood based around the Promethian Creed, how long and frickin expensive would it be to get our infrastructure to the level it would require to make powered armour and bolt weapons?
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)01:20 No.18811646
    >>18811467
    Invite the Sisters for a permanent outpost and go ahead on pollution project. Also I vote for making our Schola Ecclessiarchy style with female orphans eventually becoming recruits at our SOB outpost and males becoming Commissars or officers in the PDF.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)01:23 No.18811680
    >>18811646
    Don't make it mandatory, just encurage them to join the sisters or the pdf.
    I don't exactly want to waste our next Einstein in the pdf.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/22/12(Sun)01:23 No.18811684
    >>18811467
    I envisioned it as a university, specifically catering to the Academics and With the Art school covering the arts, and the Military Academy running like a Non-Ecclessiarchy Schola Prognium, with more of a focus on military aspects and little to no coverage of relgious ones (There's an onsite chapel of course, but theology would be left outside of the official cirriculum).

    Withouht a heavy sisterhood presence the Military Academy would focus on supplying the specialists of the Guard/PDF, Combat Enginseers, Officers, Commissars and the like.

    Everyone trained at the military academy would get a through gounding of *practical* combat with a nice suppliment of unconventional warfare. None of this meatgrinder warfare bullshit.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)01:24 No.18811688
    >>18811646
    I would be against having Sisters permanently on planet. The locals would hate it, those who are following the Promethian Creed could end up persecuted and the Iron Dragons would not be pleased.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)01:24 No.18811692
    >>18811630
    Is there anyone on our planet who could design seagoing ships? Also start a government program to encourage rehabitation of the subcontinents and islands.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)01:27 No.18811746
    >>18811630
    Let's try and see if we can get some smallish patrol vessels built with some funds (and staffed with PDF volunteers,) and as we get experience with that, move our way up the scale. They'd mostly be serving as Gendarmes and coasties atm, but still, give them a hellstrike or two if we can spare them. Ideally We should fund it by selling of some of our stuff in storage, be it to the local populace in the case of lighter kit, or to some suckers, err fellow imperial planets for everything else.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)01:28 No.18811751
    >>18811688
    We could simply found a new city around their convent. That way immediate contact with people who aren't comfortable having the sisters around could be vastly limited, while giving the sororitas some time to get used to the locals.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)01:28 No.18811759
    Could we get the Sisters to agree that they could establish a permanent outpost if they would not persecute those that follow the Promethean Cult?
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/22/12(Sun)01:30 No.18811775
    >>18811636
    >>18811646
    Personally I'm against the Sister's method of fighting, while pious and zealous, their battle tatics leave a lot to be desired, honestly I wouldn't be suprised if the resources for the Church Millitant would be better spend having more effective frontline troops.

    Remember we already have Spess Mehrens here, why would we want to devote resources to their less effective counterpart.

    Our style of combat seems to involve alot of ambush tatics and hit-and-run, and say what you will about them, but the Church Millitant isn't known for subtlety, the Astartes at least have to go through a service period as scouts.

    Personally I wouldn't be opposed to them recruited, but I'd tell them up front that we'd be putting our military resources into better supplying our PDF, and we'd only be supplying them with a small amount of war materials, they are of course, free to use whatever they can raise to suppliment their own forces.

    tl;dr No hinderance, but no major support either.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)01:30 No.18811777
    >Ragnarok tanks that have been recently replaced by the more effective Leman Russ are being placed in storage; your advisers are recommending that you sell them off.

    See if we can get some offers for those. We could also start some kind of lend-lease programme to give the tanks to planets in need and get payment later on.
    Might help with Daysimir's and Elyssa's standing in the sector as well.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/22/12(Sun)01:32 No.18811797
    If we do decide to have the sisters here, (Which I am personally against, I'd prefer some subtle discouragement to get them to leave without offending them) we could supply them with *some* of the Ragnarok tanks to augment their forces with, even if they leave, we should offer them some as a gift.
    >> RollPlayer 04/22/12(Sun)01:33 No.18811811
    I'd say that focus on the current matter and projects at hand. We are already now basically bankrupt. The navy is not something we need to worry about now. The more urgent matters are the Ultras and the SoB.

    And for the outpost matter I would say no (but a gentle and very well shrouded no). Maybe later, when our people are more accepting of the Imperial presence.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)01:33 No.18811812
    >>18811797
    It'd save on warehousing costs at least.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)01:35 No.18811841
    If having the sisters permanently on planet is such a big issue, how about giving them an orbital station for now?

    That way, they can make trips to the planet to train or interact with the populations, but they'd generally be out of everybody's hair most of the time.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)01:36 No.18811847
    The Sisters of Battle - the fighting arm of the ecclesiarchy - are the very definition of fanatical. These guys are nuns with guns, they are handy as all heck when you want a heretic burned at the stake and I can totally see why having them around would be handy, but the downside would be that the liberal setup we have going here will be more closely monitored and we might be unintentionally driving a wedge between the hard line conservatives on planet and our mostly liberal population.
    Don't forget the huge benefits the Promethian Creed gives us. The Iron Dragons are pretty well personally training our soldiers and it seems like the best way to integrate the Chapter that is going to live here from now on with the local populace.
    I would think placing a permanent Sister base on the same planet that a Salamanders successor chapter is calling home might be inviting disaster down the road.
    >> RollPlayer 04/22/12(Sun)01:37 No.18811860
    >>18811841
    We don't have the money to build another one.

    >>18811797
    Giving them some of the tanks might not be a bad idea
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)01:39 No.18811879
    >>18811860
    >We don't have the money to build another one.
    Did we spend all our personal funds as well?

    If that's the case, perhaps we could refit one of the defunct orbital defense stations for them?
    >> Editor 04/22/12(Sun)01:43 No.18811913
    >>18811630
    >>18811467
    >speech now? Ultramarines landing.

    Speech NOW, before they land.

    >schola
    This would, like our Commissars, be a local variant on Imperium structures. It would be run by local administrators and the Ministorum/Imperial Creed/etc stuff would be replaced with Promethean Cult indoctrination and loyalty to Daysimir and the Imperium on a philosophical basis as well as a non-secular one.

    >sisters
    Change the tone to approaching the Sisters about these matters, not to announcing decisions; the outpost is not permanent yet, and need not be permanent, but the Sisters are welcome to stay, however, if they do stay they WILL be approached for training exchange, etc, and supported such that they can continue their duties off-world, not to mention given opportunity to relocate to the district with the most Imperial Cult followers to ease recruitment, etc..

    This is because 1) the population is amed and unpredictable, and 2) we need to address the Sister's presence NOW.
    >> Tgdude 04/22/12(Sun)01:44 No.18811928
    How badly of a popularity hit would we take with 1)the population and 2)the Iron Dragons if the sisters had a permanent presence?

    I'm tenatively for a SoB presence because they are another excellent fighting force and a anti-chaos anti-heretic specialist group.

    Can th Iron Dragons and this particular sister chapter come to an accord?
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)01:44 No.18811932
    >>18811847
    I say we should meet with their leader. Even SoB orders tend to vary quite a bit. Let's see if we get one that's reasonable by their standards, or if we managed to get one that would make the most puritan inquisitor nervous.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)01:45 No.18811945
    >>18811860
    I don't know if we could just "give" the sisters the tanks - I would think at the very least they might need a minor retrofit to allow soldiers in powered armour to fit and work inside them, but it could be an interesting project for our military engineers to work with.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)01:54 No.18812053
    >>18811932
    This arrange a meeting once we deal with the Ultramarines.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)01:55 No.18812062
    The sisters are too much of a risk. The hereticus are always too eager to point at anything and scream "HERESY". If they must have planetside settlement, it has to be on the isles where they are isolated from the promeathian beliefs.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)01:55 No.18812070
    >>18811945
    That, and/or we refit a few with locally made Hydra Flak or LR Exterminator turrets to help support the PDF.
    >> Tgdude 04/22/12(Sun)01:58 No.18812099
    Voting
    >speech before landing.
    >support Editor's speech with sob revision

    >meet with ultras

    >meet with sob leaders

    >review criminal code of dasimir as suggested in last thead
    >> Editor 04/22/12(Sun)02:02 No.18812150
    Asking the Sisters to not prosecute the Promethean Cult worshippers is like asking them to keep breathing. The Ecclesiarchy has already recognized it, the =][= doesn't persecute it, end of story.

    The SOB presence is currently maintaining order and helping to cleanse the ruins of the stricken city of chaos artifacts, traps, etc. Leave them there so they can purge cult remnants for now.

    IN FUTURE, IF they stay, giving them a base near their recruiting pool would be good for them.

    Moving them OFFWORLD eventually would give our citizens the assurance of being free from direct Ministorum scrutiny, and give the SOB order a GREAT place to train for zero-g and micrograv fights, shipboard combat, etc, and generally train better Celestains and Seraphim.

    The closest we will ever come to creating a SOB order of our own is the creation of a Crusader House, which is what the SOBs themselves very nearly are - they have just had =][= and Ecclesiarchial backing for a long time. Crusaders may well have originated in the Age of Apostasy, depending on how you interpret conflicting 40K sources.

    If we made our own Crusader House, it would need to be religious, so we can make it with the help of our military's Promethean Cult.

    For decent training and skill transfer, we can maaaaybe convince the Order of Sworn Swords to train with them.
    >> Editor 04/22/12(Sun)02:03 No.18812159
    >>18812099
    Agree with everything here that I didn't write.

    Propose to change name of city of Rtoas to Raider's Grief?

    Propose to change name of local port of Rtoas to Port Pius?
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/22/12(Sun)02:05 No.18812175
    >>18811913
    Personally I want to have the schools teaching actual school related stuff, I wouldn't mind having an offsite chapel near the grounds, but every minute teaching them theology is a minute not teaching them effective skills.

    People who want to fufill their religous needs have easy access, we don't bog down our education with theology, and we can take a neutral stance towards theology incase any puritan Inquisitors show up.

    (My main issue is the whole wasting school time to teach religion, they can do that shit on their personal time.)
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)02:06 No.18812191
    >>18812159
    Agree to name changes.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/22/12(Sun)02:07 No.18812192
    >>18811636
    >>18811646
    >>18811692
    >>18811684
    >>18811746
    >>18811751
    >>18811879
    >>18811928

    Bolters would require High Imperial level, one level above your current Tech level. Powered Armor, both Space Marine and normal human, requires High Imperial +, the next level after High Imperial, also what you need for mobile Anti-Orbital batteries, Knight Titans (If an Order decides to settle here), and building small starships.

    Build armed Patrol Boat fleet next time you can afford it for 8 C?

    Sell Ragnarok stockpiles for 340 C? (You have a fucking ton of them)

    You have 2 C in your Personal Account.

    Orbital Defense Platforms are normally not designed for habitation, although they can be upgraded with a small permanent Garrison to defend against boarders.

    The reaction is highly positive, especially the implied planning for a strike against the Daemon World, which is something the Iron Dragons are already trying to gather support for in the Sector. (+10 to popularity)

    The Genestealers were identified as remnants that had been lurking around the Palace (One of the few places not searched) plotting a suicidal revenge strike. It's believed that they were the last.

    Generic screening in the Spaceport has already been implemented.

    While neither the population or the Iron Dragons wouldn't like having a militant Ecclessiarchy presence (Or any presence at all) the real danger lies in how the Sisters will respond to the population. Tensions are already running high after 12 Mutants discovered in a refugee shelter were lined up against a wall and shot. None were tainted by Chaos, and one was a nine year old girl from a middle-class family that was born with six fingers on each hand.
    >> Editor 04/22/12(Sun)02:07 No.18812212
    Tanks and military:

    We should put the MILLIONS of Ragnaroks to a number of uses:

    -Gifts to the Ultras, just as a 'hi let's be nice' thing. They have a huge empire to run, they might put them to good use if they're not repulsed by the design.
    -Gifts to the Order of Sworn Swords, maybe they have support units somewhere that can use 'em. Or Repentia or something.
    -Gifts to local sector nobles, and to the Lord Sector if he wants 'em as gratitude for helping with planetary improvements.
    -EXCHANGES with neighboring worlds/the Munitorum for things we need. The exchange rates will be terrible, but it'll be a start to get:
    *Hydra tanks
    *Sea navy designs
    *Other shit we need

    After that's exhausted, sell 'em except for a half million to sit in our reserves just in case everything else goes to shit and put the money from sales in the government purse for other projects.

    We have a whole long list of shit that needs to be done before our TALENTED military is anywhere near meeting its potential in terms of being strategically and tactically effective.

    We have no artillery to speak of, for one fuckin' thing.

    We also suck at AA, rapid transport, air deployment, air power, sea power, amphibious landings or air assault capacity...basically we need to redesign the PDF and give them a good place to learn how to be the better PDF we'll need to claim shit by Right of Conquest.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)02:08 No.18812214
    >>18812175
    Zeal and faith are the only defences you have against chaos until you reach Eldar or Necron tech levels.
    So I'd prefer if it would stay a mandatory subject.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)02:09 No.18812237
    >>18812192
    Ok, so the Sisters(?) lined up the dozen mutants and shot them? How recently was this?
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)02:10 No.18812239
    >>18812192
    Would that be all our Ragnarok stockpiles, or just a part of them?
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)02:12 No.18812272
    >>18812212
    I also feel that we should carve our empire out in a swarth of bloodshed.
    >> Editor 04/22/12(Sun)02:13 No.18812274
    >>18812175
    >wasting time to teach religion
    >waste

    Let's get something straight, here. I really can't stress this enough.

    This is 40K and we have a daemon world for an enemy, the =][= to contend with, and a populace so independent-minded it borders on disloyal.

    Teaching religion is teaching mental conditioning and a moral structure that saves lives and binds the people to us.

    Especially with the Promethean cult.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)02:13 No.18812278
    >>18809839
    >>implying the imperium would ever put a woman in charge of anything
    I really wish 40k would've stayed true to its misogynistic roots.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/22/12(Sun)02:14 No.18812289
    >>18812214
    You know what else defends agianst Chaos?
    Having well trained troops.
    Well trained troops also help defend against Xenos.
    We didn't drive the Chaos raid off with zeal or faith, we did if by having highly skilled PDF, astartes support and superior tatics.


    Compromising our educational effectiveness to teach religion is inefficent, we should build a nearby temple and encourge people to go to it. This not only satisfies the relgious needs of the pious, it helps the school do what it does best, teaching.

    You don't use 20% of an automobile factory to produce clocks, you use it to make more cars, dammit!
    >> Editor 04/22/12(Sun)02:14 No.18812294
    >>18812192
    >>18812239
    Let's not sell off our Ragnaroks until we've had answers to whether we could directly trade 'em through the munitorum for Hydras, give them as gifts, etc. And let's keep a half-million in case everything else breaks, please.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)02:14 No.18812295
    >>18812214
    Whats our current tech level? Low Imperial?
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/22/12(Sun)02:16 No.18812319
    >>18812274
    I don't mind teaching Mental conditioning, what I do mind is having a class of medicine inturrupted to teach the Promethian Creed.

    The populace already freaking love the prometian creed, we can build a temple RIGHT NEXT DOOR to the Schola, and the students can go there before/after/during lunch/whenever.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)02:17 No.18812322
    >>18812289
    You are evidently not understanding either the level of training our troops already have or the effectiveness of the mental conditioning implied in zeal and faith in 40K.

    Our PDF rivals the Death Korps of fucking Krieg, bro. We have nine million well trained troops. Their training is among the best in the Imperium, end of story.

    This does not prevent WELL-TRAINED CHAOS CULTS from springing up among our well-trained troops.

    That takes a certain level of indoctrination, which military training creates anyway.

    It'll also keep the =][= off our asses, which we need to do somehow what with all the XENO WEAPONS our people have just LYING THE FUCK AROUND.

    Come on.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)02:17 No.18812323
    >>18812289
    >You know what else defends agianst Chaos?
    No, they can defend you from the forces of chaos, not chaos itself. That's the Emperor's job.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)02:17 No.18812327
    >>18812289

    No. This is 40k. Religion is key for keeping people from turning to Chaos. Well trained troops that don't have the zeal faith would give are useless in the face of the Daemonic compared to well trained troops WITH Faith.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)02:17 No.18812331
    >>18812175
    Have a theology class, but make it an exercise in understanding the similarities and differences in various imperal sects? While also stressing the need to believe in something wholesome and =][= approved lest you fall prey to things that go bump in the night.

    >>18812192
    RE: Patrol Boat, yes
    Sell about 250C worth of Ragnaroks, use the remainder for whatever we need tank chassis for, or in trade for shit the PDF needs. But converting a few to an AA system and a bunch to Artillery ought to be a good idea.

    Politely ask the Sisters to be a bit more discriminating when hunting heretics or those tainted by chaos (eg not shooting mutants out of hand,) but thank them for all they've done.

    Install CCTV cameras in the Palace.
    >> Tgdude 04/22/12(Sun)02:19 No.18812344
    >>18812191
    I second the name changes.

    >dead mutants
    If the sisters did this we can't have them on our planet as they will cause unrest through unilateral actions like this. A Prince must be like the Lion and the Fox.

    Voting to resupply the sisters amply and send them on their way if they killed the mutants.

    Voting to sell old ragnarocks. We need more planetary defences.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)02:19 No.18812347
    >>18812295
    Mid Imperial, but thats new. I think most of the planet is still low imperial.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)02:19 No.18812349
    >>18812331
    I'd like to suggest giving 25C in Ragnaroks away to poor worlds in need of vehicles to defend themselves.
    >> Editor 04/22/12(Sun)02:20 No.18812356
    >>18812319
    The populace is ambivalent and tolerant towards the Promethean Cult, and does not like the Imperial Creed, as per archives.

    The MILITARY likes the Promethean Cult.

    The Military numbers in the tens of millions max. The populace numbers in the billions.

    The math here is that less than a single percent, meaning 1% of our people, like the Promethean Cult.

    The rest are just fucking heathens that can be converted at the sword or whatever else.

    Let it go, everyone else is interested in teaching religion because of its applications in setting. Nobody's going to teach it exclusively, but it will be taught and made time for.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/22/12(Sun)02:20 No.18812364
    >>18812192

    >Oh Christ that last paragraph was a mess.
    >Also forgot to link to these guys.
    >>18812150
    >>18812159
    >>18812099

    While neither the population nor the Iron Dragons would like having a militant Ecclessiarchy presence (Or any presence at all) on planet, the real danger lies in how the Sisters will respond to the population. Tensions are already running high after 12 Mutants discovered in a refugee shelter were lined up against a wall and shot. None were tainted by Chaos, and one was a nine year old girl from a middle-class family that was born with six fingers on each hand.

    Your trip to the Spaceport is surrounded by a roaring crowd that crams the street from building to building and lines the rooftops, the stamping of feet and wordless chanting follows you to the walls of the Spaceport, and can still be heard as you meet a party of shining giants in blue armor.

    >Action, Governor?
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/22/12(Sun)02:20 No.18812367
    >>18812322
    Forgot to mention, unless this Schola is bigger than a city, the amount of indoctrination it'll deliver will be miniscule compared to the population size, we should stick to mental training and indoctrination to the military academy, civvies will get less of a use out of it and if we build a shrime/temple adjacent, they can worship there.

    I wouldn't mind having a religious studies class for the art school, but having zealous veternarians isn't going to do much.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)02:21 No.18812370
    >>18812192
    Talk to the SoB's canoness, or whoever is in charge of them.
    We shouldn't send them off or allow them to settle here without having a fucking talk with them.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)02:23 No.18812392
    >>18812367

    >zealous veternarians isn't going to do much.

    It prevents you having Chaos Veternarians.

    Prevention is better than cure and Faith is good prevention of Chaos.
    >> Editor 04/22/12(Sun)02:24 No.18812397
    >The reaction is highly positive, especially the implied planning for a strike against the Daemon World, which is something the Iron Dragons are already trying to gather support for in the Sector. (+10 to popularity)
    From mah speech? Fuck yes.

    >>18812367
    The academy is also not bigger than a city.
    >>18812370
    Seconding.
    >>18812344
    Let's not do that yet.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)02:26 No.18812405
    >>18812349
    Sure, but let's get something worthwhile from it. Like resources, or shiny local trinkets. ditch some of the older infantry weapons that aren't going to the Milita, and can't be sold to civillians in the program as well.

    >>18812364
    Welcome the Ultramarines in an order as is due their station, and don't forget to smile for the crowd.

    We'll leave the hair pulling for later.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)02:27 No.18812416
    Somewhere along the line we need to start a maritime warfare program. Most of the planet is covered in water and many of the islands have vital forces.

    If we do sells some ragnarok tanks we can start developing a navy. Seeing as we don't have plans on hand, we may need to start an R&D program.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)02:28 No.18812424
    >>18812331
    I like and second your theology class compromise
    Also second the selling of the tanks.

    But I would not thank the sisters for killing our citizens. What we really need to do is hash out some ground rules for how the sister should operate on our planet if they settle here.


    >>18812349
    I also second this.
    >> Editor 04/22/12(Sun)02:28 No.18812428
    >>18812364
    >Action, Governor?

    Get the media alerted, and broadcast footage to the Sector Capital and the Segmentum Fortress at Kar Duniash. If the Ultras throw their weight around, people will notice. If they're polite, your world gets good press.

    Welcome the Ultramarines to your world.
    Go down on one knee, then rise. These fucking guys are from a founding chapter and are lords of all they survey. Genuflecting is worthwhile.

    "Captain [insert captain's name here], [other Ultramarine leader names here], Lords of Ultramar, I bid you welcome to Daysimir. May your stay be fruitful."

    "We have taken pains to make the world safe, as you no doubt have heard. If you would like, we can recieve you at the Governor's Palace to review the tactical situation."

    Introduce relevant figures. Take Ultramarines to palace, making sure to show off the statues of the Emperor and the loyalist Primarchs.

    Tell them about purging the Genestealers and the Chaos Cult on the way, ask for input, offer to show them the locations, etc.

    Offer a gift of Ragnaroks.

    This is assuming they don't talk to you about their own agenda.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/22/12(Sun)02:28 No.18812429
    >>18812392
    Did you read the rest of what I said?

    Look the populace already are wholeheartedly embracing the Imperial Creed, we don't need to waste time indoctrinating it in civillian schools.

    If we build a temple next door, they can go there on their spare time since it's right next door.

    Furthermore we've got Smurf, Soroitas AND Inquistorial attention, we don't need to flagrantly advertise how non-conformist we are to everyone who visits like we're the freaking Space Wolves.

    If they like the Prometian Creed, they'll worship it on their own time, if they don't it's only going to piss people off, cause resentment, and resist it harder.
    >> Tgdude 04/22/12(Sun)02:29 No.18812432
    Question:

    We have extensive genetic testing.

    How effective is this at alerting us to a chaos tainted mutant population crisis?
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)02:31 No.18812453
    >>18812429

    >Look the populace already are wholeheartedly embracing the Imperial Creed, we don't need to waste time indoctrinating it in civillian schools.

    Yes we do. If we get Lax, it means said protection is weak. We need to teach the next generation or faith will erode.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)02:33 No.18812472
    Ragnarok tanks are good, but astartes gear is top of the line. Don't bother offering the tanks, it may be taken as an insult.
    >> Editor 04/22/12(Sun)02:33 No.18812474
    >>18812428
    Talk to Ministorum friend about TRADING ragnaroks for other tanks gradually, with other worlds in and out of sector. AA Hydras are a good place to start. Same with sea navy designs, possibly seacraft, etc as suggested here: >>18812212


    >>18812349
    >I'd like to suggest giving 25C in Ragnaroks away to poor worlds in need of vehicles to defend themselves.
    Seconding.

    >>18812331
    >Have a theology class, but make it an exercise in understanding the similarities and differences in various imperal sects? While also stressing the need to believe in something wholesome and =][= approved lest you fall prey to things that go bump in the night.
    Seconding, but make it easy for them to learn the Promethean Cult. Put chapels/churches to it near the training facilities wherever possible.

    >RE: Patrol Boat, yes
    Seconding.
    >Sell about 250C worth of Ragnaroks, use the remainder for whatever we need tank chassis for, or in trade for shit the PDF needs. But converting a few to an AA system and a bunch to Artillery ought to be a good idea.
    Nah.
    >Politely ask the Sisters to be a bit more discriminating when hunting heretics or those tainted by chaos (eg not shooting mutants out of hand,) but thank them for all they've done.
    Good start.
    >> Editor 04/22/12(Sun)02:35 No.18812483
    >>18812472
    These aren't your typical space marines, they fight with Guard and PDF and have a multi-world empire to deal with.

    Giving them thousands of tanks to bolster the capacity of their mortal fighting force to ship back home may not be insulting.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/22/12(Sun)02:35 No.18812489
    >>18812453
    How the hell will it be lax? We didn't exactly indoctrinate them in the first place.
    They'll pick it up from friends, family, general culture, and the Temple we'll build RIGHT NEXT DOOR.

    We're talking about a 30 second walk from the entrance, in plain sight, hell we could even have a preist stand nearby and offer blessing and whatnot.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)02:39 No.18812523
    >>18812474
    >Nah.
    Why not? It'll be a cheap and quick way to get desperately needed equipment using local industrial capacity, and could help build our way up to more complicated military equipment, which could help us out in the long run.
    >> Editor 04/22/12(Sun)02:39 No.18812525
    >>18812429
    >>18812453
    I don't think you guys are going to come to any kind of agreement anytime soon, but for the record I'm all for reaping the benefits of promoting the Promethean Cult to the populace by slow degrees for the Chaos protections, the PR benefits the government itself gets with every segment of Imperial society and administration (everyone from the Administratum to the Ecclesiarchy will like it better than heathenry), the protections from chaos, and the link to the Iron Dragons.

    How about we put it aside and deal with the mass of problems we have now, which includes:

    -A massive, gaping strategic hole in our defenses
    -A political situation that is a constant high-wire act, because of the:
    -Ultramarines that are here to visit, and the
    -Sisters that are getting the populace angry, and
    -All the local gomers with large, sometimes alien guns, and
    -The hostile worlds in sector, which sometimes send raiders and are generally dickbags.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/22/12(Sun)02:39 No.18812526
    >Seconding, but make it easy for them to learn the Promethean Cult. Put chapels/churches to it near the training facilities wherever possible.

    Precisely, we'll make it easily accessible and nearby, but we'll be spending school time teaching school crap.

    We could also do an annual religiously themed contest for the art school, sponsored by the Ecclewhateveritis, maybe have some religiously themed artwork created by the students on display at both the School/Academy, with plaques giving credit and prestiege to the creators.
    >> Editor 04/22/12(Sun)02:41 No.18812536
    >>18812523
    Because the Departmento Munitorum rep we know, who is currently on-world, is an =][= agent that seems to REALLY want to help us out and going through him might produce better deals than direct sales.

    Not checking with him may fail to leverage a hidden gold mine.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)02:41 No.18812540
    >>18812331
    >Politely ask the Sisters to be a bit more discriminating when hunting heretics or those tainted by chaos (eg not shooting mutants out of hand,) but thank them for all they've done.
    Wouldn't that be (although politely) be telling them not to do their job? If they shot a dozen minor mutants out of hand then no matter how diplomatic or polite you are towards them they will already have self justified their actions and I would not broach the subject at all until you get to know them very well.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/22/12(Sun)02:42 No.18812546
    >>18812212
    >>18812237
    >>18812239
    >>18812295

    This was a little over a week ago, the sister who gave the order was reprimanded with two weeks on bread and water for being over-zealous concerning the young girl, who had a relatively common and tolerated mutation that would have been easily corrected by surgery. On the other mutants they simply commended her for diligent service.

    Your regiment has more then enough Artillery, both Basilisks and Manticores, and you have the patterns for both, although you haven't begun local production.

    >>18812429

    ...If you aren't being sarcastic, I just have to say I have no idea how you got that impression.

    >>18812432

    The testing was designed specifically for Genestealers, however, Chaos Taint would show up as something being obviously wrong with this persons Genes far beyond normal mutation.

    >>18812428

    >Ultramarines in next post.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)02:43 No.18812549
    >>18812526
    Religions that have been part of Imperium life and survival for ten millennia qualify as 'school crap.'

    People will continue to tell you this so long as you keep posting to the contrary. Stop derailing the thread from more interesting things with your agnostic Imperial Truth nonsense, no one here wants to bring creationism into your classroom.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/22/12(Sun)02:43 No.18812551
    >>18812536
    Agreed, he's not only an Inquisitor who has agents on our world, but he's also our Munitorium contact, meaning he's in charge of supply procurement and our taxes, furthermore he seems to regard us rather favourably.

    Staying on his good side is benificial on many levels.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)02:48 No.18812583
    >>18812536
    >>18812551
    Well, yeah, we should definitely check with him as well before we go through with it, but if he's fine with it, or enthusiastic, we go right on ahead. Plus, we could use the same turret design on the Patrol Boats.
    >> Editor 04/22/12(Sun)02:48 No.18812587
    >>18812551
    Probably just a throne agent, considering OP said we had an Ordo Hereticus inquisitor either INBOUND or ON-WORLD with the Ultras, as in we have full-fledged =][= Inquisitors on-world NOW.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/22/12(Sun)02:50 No.18812605
    >>18812587
    I don't want to piss off a tax collector who wield's a force sword and casually slaughters Genestealers.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)02:53 No.18812633
    >>18812605
    Then do us all a favor and stop saying things you evidently don't understand about the planet's relationship to the Imperium's religions.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/22/12(Sun)02:59 No.18812673
    >>18812633
    >Bringing it up after I specifically ignore your blatant baiting last time and tried to move past it.

    Look, the reason I am against it is because I belive a school is best at teaching and temple is best at preaching, there's a reason why specialization works in industry, it's just more efficent. Teaching Religion in school is less effective than with a dedicated religious instituton and leaves less time teaching the subjects at hand.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)03:03 No.18812713
    >>18812673
    And I think you're wrong, thought you were wrong every time you exprssed your idea about efficiency, and will continue to think you're wrong as long as you keep raising points that are based on this bit of logic, so it'll be brought up anytime I damn well please as this is an open forum for everyone that ain't gettin' banned.

    But calling it baiting just makes you terribly easy to troll.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/22/12(Sun)03:05 No.18812723
    >>18812713
    Great, so we each think the other is wrong, now let's move past this topic and onto something else and stop bringing this topic up.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/22/12(Sun)03:08 No.18812749
    >>18812546
    >Also leaving decision on Ragnaroks until after this is over.

    >>18812587
    >>18812605

    Mirak is an ex-Inquisitor, and now a Munitorum Representative. To your knowledge there are no other Inquisitors active on Daysimir. There is an Ordo Malleus (Mistyped it as Ordos Hereticus in last thread) Inquisitor on his way to do a quick check and make sure that the recent engagement has not effected the PDF.

    >CONT
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/22/12(Sun)03:09 No.18812761
    >>18812546

    Captain Lucidus Culus of the Ultramarines gives you a smile that looks like it's struggling to turn into a superior smirk. "I do too, Governor." He neglects to introduce his Honor Guard.

    As you walk and fill him in on the situation, his universal response is to be condescending and superior without directly insulting you or the Iron Dragons. He goes as far as to say that the work load as Governor must be heavy, as any Captain worth her salt would have immediately seen the security hole that having all of your sensors on the same side of the planet and absolutely nothing on the other presented. After this another Marine, presumably one of the other two Captains, crackles over his suit com and tells him to tone it down before grumbling something about seniority being Groxshit.

    He does, however, agree to tour your Palace and other sites and visit the combat zone. You guess this is most likely to gather information. When you reach the Palace he looks upon the statues, particularly the station of Roboute Guilliman at the right hand of the Emperor. He frowns for a moment before asking where you put the statue of Vulkan.

    When you respond "On the opposite side of the Palace" he smirks for a second before the Chaplain says "In other words, opposite of the Emperor?"

    After this, his condescending remarks reduce significantly, but the scowl stays on his face throughout the tour and the long Valkyrie ride to the newly renamed city of Raiders Grief.
    >> Tgdude 04/22/12(Sun)03:10 No.18812771
    >>18812633
    Knock it off. It is clear you haven't read all the previous threads. The only person's opinion regarding the lore that matters is the GM's.

    >>18812474
    Voting
    >seconding talking to munitions agent about cash for clunkers program, trading ragnaroks for something more useful.

    >revising my vote
    no opinion on sob stay/go until we talk to their leader.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)03:14 No.18812814
    >>18812761
    I guess we got the message through to them, despite the reinforced nature of their thick fucking skulls.

    Now we can turn the spaceport into a stopping point for any space marine fleet that happens by and word can spread to the Ultras that they've all been well-received by us and think we're plenty okay.

    Stay on your side of the border unless we invite you over for tea, Ultramar. Nothing to see here.
    >> Tgdude 04/22/12(Sun)03:18 No.18812846
    >all sensors on one side of the planet.

    Ok op I laughed. That is a pretty big oversight.

    However we can calmly mention to Imperial Smurf Douche that our Orbital Defences, which will be an early warning system are nearly complete.
    >> Editor 04/22/12(Sun)03:19 No.18812855
    >>18812846
    Let's not give him any more information than absolutely necessary to complete his mission and get the Ultras the fuck out of here.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/22/12(Sun)03:20 No.18812858
    >>18812761
    Inform him that we just finished clearing up a Genestealer infiltration so all of our attention was down, not up, and that we got hit by a paticualarily sealthy and cunning force of corrupted Astartes, then tell him of the fact a local PDF managed to drive off a Chaos Warband (With the blessed support from the Iron Dragons of course!) is a hearty accomplishment.

    (Hopefully that'll subtly warn him what happens the next time an astartes tries to invade.)

    >Sororitas playing hide the bolter round with a child.
    I think we should politely and sutbly encourage them to find somewhere else to stay, their actions are a PR nightmare and antagonizing our incredibly well armed and well trained populace could only result in bad news for both sides.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)03:20 No.18812862
    >>18812855
    >>18812846
    in fact it may be preferable to have the ultras think we're stupid as long as possible
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/22/12(Sun)03:22 No.18812886
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    >Looks upon the statues with favor

    While he continues to keep up a mask of superiority and aloofness, the stare of the statue of Malcador the Sigillite seems to have troubled him deeply, and he cannot hide his surprise at the obvious evidence at how hard your Militia fought against the Chaos incursion, and his surprise at the number of Traitors involved. He had obviously assumed that a normal Warband had somehow managed to destroy one of your cities, instead of a marauding army. He also cannot help but smile at the report, backed up by the Munitorum, that 78% of all casualties had died with some kind of weapon in hand, or obviously trying to engage Chaos soldiers in hand-to-hand combat or with vehicles.

    He is...somewhat more pleasant on the trip back, although Victarion (Head Fire Priest/Chaplain) barely restrains himself from reaching out to strangle the gleaming Captain when he comments about how unfortunate it must have been to have missed the invasion of his homeworld while mammoth-hunting in the smuggest tone of fake sympathy you have ever heard.

    Finally, you return to the Palace, where you gather in a meeting room to discuss his purpose here. This time around he turns his head to avoid Malectors gaze as he walks past.

    >Action?
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/22/12(Sun)03:24 No.18812894
    >>18812862
    On one hand it'll make them underestimate us, and on the other it'll make us look like an easier target.

    Personally I'd like to use the fact we drove off a chaos warband during the worst possible time, with realtively little casualties, without extraplanetary support as a deterrent. We might be able to convince them that we're too much trouble to bother to take.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)03:25 No.18812900
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    So where are we?
    >> Tgdude 04/22/12(Sun)03:27 No.18812914
    Listen to what the Ultra has to say
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)03:29 No.18812924
    >>18812886
    If at all possible, subtly try to place Victarion at the very least out of arm's reach of Captain Lucidus Cuntus there... If he is going to poke at the Iron Dragons some more it would be best to make sure that blows will not be struck.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)03:32 No.18812944
    >>18812914
    agreed, let the metric fuckton of pain and death act first. Besides, we still need more info on his motives and methodology.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/22/12(Sun)03:41 No.18812995
    >>18812900

    On the frontier of Imperial Space in the Eastern Fringe.

    >>18812914
    >>18812924

    He is seated across the table, and a few seats away.

    He leans back. "To cut to the chase, Governor: We believe that this planet belongs rightfully to the Empire of Ultramar. The previous Governor was in negotiations with us for induction when he dealt our Chapter a grievous insult, which, if you have any familiarity with the history of your own planet, you no doubt are well aware of. Before this incident, the agreement had been all but sealed, and to my knowledge such agreements are not null and void at one Governors removal."

    >Note that the agreement, to your knowledge, was not that close to being sealed.
    >> Editor 04/22/12(Sun)03:42 No.18813007
    >>18812886
    >action?
    >>18812914
    Seconding.

    After he finishes, assuming there's nothing to respond to directly:

    "My Lord, would a modest gift of Ragnarok-pattern tanks be of any use to the Auxilia of Ultramar or in reinforcing other worlds you watch over?"

    reference: http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Ultramar_Auxilia#.T5O0ZKtAa8A

    If the answer is in the affirmative:

    "As you came here to aid us in a time of need, we are obligated to offer you something for the journey alone - despite not having any worthy battles for you to fight. As such, we will give you a shipment of these to carry homeward or to a worthy battlefield - not so large as to show hubris in throwing away our own defenses, but not so small as to be dismissive of your efforts or cause insult. Willingness to take notice of a world so far from Ultramar's borders and play a role in ensuring its welfare should not go unrewarded today."

    Then ask the following:

    "Would you say, my Lord, that you are satisfied enough with the progression of rearmament and the repair undertaken on Daysimir's defense network to take our regards to the Lord Macragge when you leave us to begin your many labors elswewhere?"
    >> Editor 04/22/12(Sun)03:44 No.18813023
    >>18812995
    >>18813007
    Hmm. Editing.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)03:44 No.18813034
    >>18812995
    >Before this incident, the agreement had been all but sealed

    Is there a polite way of saying "Yeah, all but."?
    >> Editor 04/22/12(Sun)03:53 No.18813107
    >>18812995
    Have the statue of Malcador the Sigilite brought into the room now, claim it is there to bless any such meetings with the Saint's wisdom and to grant all involved strength of the sort that Malcador showed in executing his duties to the Emperor.

    Put it behind you so that anyone looking at you has to see it at least in their peripheral vision.

    And possibly get a recording device in here, publicly, to keep official business on the record and not be like your predecessor. Inform anyone that questions this that it is to differentiate you from your irresponsible predecessor and out of respect for the gravity of official dealings.

    Then, respond as follows:

    "My Lords, I am afraid that the lack of formalization before the untimely death of my predecessor, in part due to the insult in question being dealt to your chapter - an insult that I think I have done much to undo with homage towards your own hallowed Primarch, though I will presently offer gifts that will do more - this lack of formalization came at a severely inopportune time."

    Continued.
    >> Editor 04/22/12(Sun)03:54 No.18813114
    >>18813107
    Continues.

    "What world would not like to be a part of Ultramar? Frankly, I could think of no world that would not benefit. But I am afraid that fate had something different in store, in the form of the Iron Dragons' arrival. As I understand the matter, the Dragons are, like yourselves, given to certain powers and subject to certain restrictions laid down by the Emperor himself and the Senate of Terra, including the creation of arrangements and agreements with regards to recruiting worlds and the government of same."

    "As the Iron Dragons are a worthy chapter and are seeking to recruit from and defend this world, and as the Senate of Terra does not give Ultramar precedence over other chapters in this matter to my knowledge and oversees all matters of this sort, I am given to understand that it would be a matter of having the masters of both chapters make their case directly to the Senate, under the shadow of the Golden Throne itself - unless, of course, you were to entrust them with the protections of this world as its own inhabitants eagerly have done."
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)03:55 No.18813123
    >>18813034
    How about taking a look at the planetory records of this 'deal' and seeing if this guy is talking out of his ass or not.
    Not to mention that this guy doesn't have a leg to stand on since in order for the 'deal' to be in effect it would have had to be sealed, signed and done. Since even Captain Cuntus there admits that it was not sealed he has to be a massive arrogant prick to think that this 'deal' is going to go forward and that the Iron Dragons will just up and leave.
    >> Tgdude 04/22/12(Sun)03:55 No.18813128
    we would appreciate the original documents for analysis good Ultramarine. Not for ourselves but to ensure no insult was inadvertently given by this administration and the Imperial bodies that sanctioned this governorship, to your Esteemed Battle-brothers the Iron Dragons

    >in short documents, no not taking your word for it or insulting you.
    >> Editor 04/22/12(Sun)03:57 No.18813145
    >>18813123
    We can't beat him by presenting the evidence - he can discredit it by saying 'I know about these secret meetings and other shit, you don't know everything' and since he's an Ultrasmurf captain we'd better have some serious firepower AND evidence if we want to accuse him of lying or openly claim he is decieving us.

    We have to outplay him at Imperial Politics: Lying and Referring to Precedent.

    The best precedent is the Emprah.
    >> Editor 04/22/12(Sun)04:00 No.18813164
    >>18813128
    Little bits of parchment with seals and signatures don't mean shit either way. He can have something written up by a scribe with an autoquill in five minutes, and it'll take you weeks to tell if they're fake.

    If he gives you a larger volume of documents, you'll just take longer to analyze them.

    If this merely required a delay tactic, that'd be fine. However, we have to cut this thing off at the head.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/22/12(Sun)04:09 No.18813243
    >>18813034
    >>18813107
    >>18813114
    >>18813123
    >>18813128
    >>18813145


    He frowns: "Well, we were hung up over certain negotiations about forgiving back taxes owed to the Imperium...But aside from that things were progressing well, until it started raining. After the incident he left several messages for us at Macragge, the last one pledging to join Ultramar and pay off back taxes himself, plus 10% for our troubles and a pledge to build statues of our honored Primarch across the planet, which would NOT disintegrate, and that it only remained for us to acknowledge his pledge of fealty, which "Stands whether my Lords deign to acknowledge my humble servitude or not". Governor Rodoris struck me as a perfectly competent individual, and a faithful man of the Imperium. I see no reason why you feel entitled to throw out agreements he made simply because he failed to have the military capacity to suppress a rebellious population."

    He leans across the table scowling: "And while the Emperor did NOT give us precedence over other Space Marine Chapters, we DO have precedence over Chapters settling on OUR TERRITORY after grievously insulting us several times in the past."

    You send for any records on your end of these transmissions. He takes this as another insult.

    >Response?
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/22/12(Sun)04:11 No.18813256
    >>18812886
    >Governor Rodoris struck me as a perfectly competent individual, and a faithful man of the Imperium.
    Ohohoho now we got him.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)04:17 No.18813308
    >>18813243
    After Rodoris the Sixth was removed from office, was he executed for heresy or imprisoned or what?
    Could this guy be still around and trying to cause political havok for us?
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/22/12(Sun)04:18 No.18813323
    Bring up all the information Broquisitor and our own Internal Affairs has on the guy and why he was assassinated, point out the massive corruption, abuse of power, and general ineptitude that cause the planet to pretty much revolt, then bring up how he went running to the Tau of all things for protection.

    Then point out how he managed to let a Genestealer infestation go by unnoticed.

    State that due to the sheer incompetence, governmental corruption and outright treasons he has committed, that any deals brokered by the previous govoner should be considered null and void.
    >> Tgdude 04/22/12(Sun)04:19 No.18813333
    >>18813256
    :trollface:

    Can we get the previous governor declared a heretic because of his incompetence?
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)04:20 No.18813349
    >>18813243
    >Governor Rodoris struck me as a perfectly competent individual, and a faithful man of the Imperium. I see no reason why you feel entitled to throw out agreements he made simply because he failed to have the military capacity to suppress a rebellious population.
    Could the Captain be ignorant of the fact that Rodoris was a Tau Sympathizer and most likely wanted to sell the planet off to whoever would pay him the most, be it the Ultramarines of the Xenos?
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)04:21 No.18813352
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    >>18813243
    >Governor Rodoris struck me as a perfectly competent individual, and a faithful man of the Imperium.

    Since I'm not the most diplomatic of people you probably shouldn't listen to me, but I would tell him to go fuck himself with his Bolter. In a diplomatic way.
    >> Editor 04/22/12(Sun)04:23 No.18813372
    >>18813243
    >takes this as another insult
    He's going to take everything as an insult. Fine.

    Do your best to put yourself right next to the statue of the Sigilite when you respond to him so he can't avoid its gaze.

    "My Lord, I was informed by my betters that the proof of the authority of a Governor answerable to the Priesthood and Senate of Terra is directly related to that governor's capacities to deal with rebellion - or preferentially prevent it - while paying his tithe, which is the very embodiment of loyalty to the Emperor himself. However, I feel it would be wise to ensure you were well informed of the nature of these incidents at their source, wherein you will be able to make the best of observations. You have seen for yourself the response of this population to a chaos incursion containing hundreds of traitor marines and know of their history in throwing off the yoke of the alien, and as such I cannot fathom any claim that this world's populace would rebel against a reasonable governor."
    >> Editor 04/22/12(Sun)04:25 No.18813385
    >>18813372
    Continued below.
    Mention the proofs in >>18813323 have been accepted by the Administratum. Then:

    "I believe I have no end of evidence of this governor flouting the will of the Imperium at large on a number of matters, and as such I would ask why you felt that Ultramar was dealing with anything other than a confidence man working to deface your great Realm by trying to use it as a shield for himself, distract its military and your fellow brothers with rebellion after rebellion right down to the last man until it was a worthless crater incapable of paying tithes to anyone for anything, and seeking only the next escape for himself."

    "I myself must take my predecessor's ousting by the Administratum to be the very word of the Priesthood and the Senate of Terra on the matter of his worth. As such, I cannot follow your train of thought - I see only the fortune of avoiding shame and grief for Ultramar in his ousting, as he prevented whomever took this world into your Realm from bearing the criticism of his peers. As such, I cannot but throw out his entire attempt to deceive Ultramar into taking this world, and therefore his safety, under its aegis - meaning that this was not then your territory after all, a statement I must temper with the record of Ultramar's lack of involvement in the scouring of the hated Tau from this world - which as I understand it is within the patrol route of so many void-pirates, alien foes, traitors, heretics, and other dangerous scum that I could hardly be convinced to believe it is along your patrol routes, for great Ultramar would not tolerate these."
    >> Editor 04/22/12(Sun)04:29 No.18813412
    >>18813385
    "As such, I must ask - out of a simple sense of duty to the system of fealty under which the Imperium functions - if you are prepared to take responsibility for destroying these hostiles what with all additional duties that weigh on the shoulders of Ultramar, so far from the borders of the Realm, as this would demonstrate clearly that it is indeed the territory of the Ultramarines - as, you see, the Iron Dragons have carried these duties out in the absence of any other forces, and would be glad to continue to do so, making their territorial claim the only one I was informed of and, I am forced to say, the only one I can consider based on my understanding of the matter. It is hardly fair to expect Ultramar to extend its influence so far when Hive Fleets and worse roam the Segmentum and your chapter is the one best versed in striking them down. We simply cannot ask so much of you."
    >> Editor 04/22/12(Sun)04:32 No.18813434
    >>18813410
    >After this, his response is simple: "I suppose you have sources to back up these accusations aside from the testimony of reported Xenos sympathizers?"
    "Though I am hurt, my Lord, that you do not trust me over my predecessor despite his many faults and inability to execute his office and the confidence of the Administratum and Terra in my capacities (read: that was insulting), I am glad to ask the servants of the Inquisition to put aside their sacred duties and verify their own findings for the better edification of a servant of Ultramar (read: sure I have sources, if you want to waste =][= time)."
    >> Editor 04/22/12(Sun)04:34 No.18813446
    >>18813385
    >distract its military and your fellow brothers with rebellion after rebellion right down to the last man until it was a worthless crater incapable of paying tithes to anyone for anything, and seeking only the next escape for himself.
    derp.

    its military and your fellow brothers with rebellion after rebellion ON THIS WORLD etc.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)04:36 No.18813455
    >>18813410
    >"I suppose you have sources to back up these accusations aside from the testimony of reported Xenos sympathizers?"
    I'm sorry - is he trying to invalidate our accusations of Rodoris sympathizing with Xenos by saying the evidence we have gathered is from Xenos sympathizers!?
    >> Editor 04/22/12(Sun)04:36 No.18813458
    >>18813455
    He may just be saying 'I have no reason to trust any of this shit you're parading under my nose."
    >> Tgdude 04/22/12(Sun)04:38 No.18813467
    Seconding what editor said, everything about it.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/22/12(Sun)04:43 No.18813504
    >>18813243
    >Forgot to add this at the end.

    Shortly after this statement, when the angry shouting of the Iron Dragons Honor Guard has died down, several burly Ogryns haul the statue into the room. It's presence obviously discomforts greatly.

    >>18813308

    To your knowledge he was not executed, although you don't believe that the Imperium knows about his dealings with the Tau.

    >>18813323
    >>18813349

    The Parade of evidence begins, from documents proving massive embezzlement, tax evasion, and corruption to the damning evidence of his attempt to hide behind the Tau, even going up to the point of adding Tau-supplied Kroot Enforcers to his police forces, in the form of transcripts intercepted by the Resistance, to Tau weapons caches and Xenos-Artifacts seized by the same. While all the while the Captain sits under the judging stare of Malcador the Sigillite in Stone.

    >>18813372

    After this, he sits and thinks for several minutes, eventually he responds with what you believe to be the only thing you can come up with.

    "Concerning these accusations of relations with the Tau, I'm going to assume that you have some evidence aside from the testimony of reported Xenos sympathizers?"
    >> Editor 04/22/12(Sun)04:46 No.18813519
    >>18813504
    >After this, he sits and thinks for several minutes, eventually he responds with what you believe to be the only thing you can come up with.
    >He responds
    >YOU can come up with
    Do you mean HE can come up with?

    If so, see >>18813434
    >> Editor 04/22/12(Sun)04:56 No.18813575
    >>18813519
    Though I will add this while resting your chin thoughtfully on your fist.

    "It occurs to me that it may be that perhaps the rains washing away the badly-wrought likeness of the visiage of your Primarch may themselves have been a symbol of Rodoris' lack of trustworthiness. It is said that the handiwork of a servant of enemies of the Emperor cannot manage to conceal itself with symbols of officialdom and fealty before the true faithful, such as yourself and the lords of Ultramar - that such things shine through plainly in their falseness. I cannot deny that it says much that his effort to pay homage to the great Gulliman resulted in the plainest disaster, and was insulting to behold or even hear of."
    >> Editor 04/22/12(Sun)04:58 No.18813589
    >>18813575
    >It occurs to me that it may be that perhaps
    What a fucking mess.
    "It occurs to me that perhaps..." is better.

    Off for a minute for more caffeine.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/22/12(Sun)05:01 No.18813605
    >>18813434
    >>18813455
    >>18813568

    "I see, then perhaps the Administratum would like to verify this..."Evidence" of yours. While it would be sad to see the man discredited so, it would greatly relieve us to know that your planet is not, in fact, overrun with Eldar-lovers."
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)05:03 No.18813625
    Just wanted to say how much fun I am having with this. Thanks Gameroom for running this and everyone who contributes. This has really made my night.
    >> Metatron 04/22/12(Sun)05:08 No.18813651
    >>18813605
    he knows about the trading conspiracy with the Eldar, but does he know they've been keeping this world safe?

    perhaps something like "I and my staff are still investigating these... rumors."?
    >> Editor 04/22/12(Sun)05:10 No.18813661
    >>18813605
    "It so happens that a long-suffering servant of the Administratum's Departmento Munitorum, loyal beyond doubt, is frequently on-world. I believe he, along with sources from the Holy Inquisition, will be glad to verify these claims for a Lord of Ultramar such as yourself. As for the matter of the hated Eldar, treacherous as they are, the Iron Dragon presence on this world should see to the matter of any pirates and the Rogue Traders who visit us regularly are under proper observation by Inquisitors as I am given to understand matters, so any presence of Eldar or interaction with them would soon garner their attention. Between the servants of the Inquisition, my naval connections, the Iron Dragons, and the will of the Immortal Emperor, I should think any overrun by aliens will be repelled presently."

    "However, my Lord, I am grateful to you for enlightening a humble servant like myself of this potential problem regarding sympathies for the lure of these Eldar aliens. You have pointed out to me that more need be done in executing my duties as governor, and unlike my predecessor I will be glad to see to the task in question. I will assure you as well as the Administratum that the matter will be seen to as quickly as the servants of the Emperor are able. You have my utmost gratitude for your aid and wisdom in helping to keep this world from the grip of the enemy."
    >> Editor 04/22/12(Sun)05:12 No.18813665
    >>18813651
    How about "In fact, I will launch an investigation into the matter with the help of the Arbites forthwith." This will give us an excuse to sort out sanctioning and get a feel for the local arbites, and probably involve as much record-checking as we want. Could be a whole decade before we actually do any fieldwork and talk to our own populace about it, let alone arrest anyone.
    >> Metatron 04/22/12(Sun)05:17 No.18813699
    >>18813665
    Can't wait to sanction a bunch of Exodite colonies and an entire Craftworld; absolutely ridiculous, but par for the course as this adventure has gone so far.
    >> Editor 04/22/12(Sun)05:19 No.18813712
    >>18813699
    Nah, sanction the humans dealing with the sudden appearance of Eldar artefacts by employing them under the Rogue Trader you know and the two related to you. They're 'field contacts' or some shit.
    >> Editor 04/22/12(Sun)05:20 No.18813718
    >>18813712
    And tell them to conduct their fucking business on the newly established moon colony or something. They can do that shit outside your area of responsibility if they're going to participate in it at all.
    >> Metatron 04/22/12(Sun)05:21 No.18813728
    >>18813718
    Verily
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/22/12(Sun)05:22 No.18813737
    >>18813625
    >>18813661
    >>18813665

    >Thanks, that means a lot to me.

    From the transcripts that have been brought to you, you see that the only mention of the Resistance referred to them as "A filthy rabble only slightly superior to the rest of the peasantry, and I've heard rumors of dealings with the foul Xenos known as the Eldar that continued long after their already questionable work alongside them during the latest Skirmish with the pathetic Empire of the Tau."

    You see that later, in a transmission he foolishly neglected to delete from his archives, he lauded the Tau Empire as "A rising power in the Galaxy, destined to encompass all in a new age of science and progress under the benevolent guide of the blessed Ethereals."

    >Action?
    >> Tgdude 04/22/12(Sun)05:25 No.18813752
    >>18813605
    Guys the ultra is grasping at straws with this. Eldar influence or not it's out of his jurisdiction when we prove the previous governor was incompetent to the point o heresy by asking if the Inquisitor/munitions rep has them from his embedded spies if he was operating on planet during that administration. If so can he verify our evidence.

    Then eldar loving or not, that is in the hands of us and the iron dragons
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/22/12(Sun)05:27 No.18813765
    I'm gonna cut it off here for tonight. I can feel the thread starting to run out of steam, or that might just be me.

    I'll continue next Saturday at 8:00 PM US Mountain Time (1:00 PM GMT Standard unless I got it wrong, which is likely.) Unless any more disasters happen I may actually start the thread on time for the first time ever.

    Goodnight, /tg/.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)05:32 No.18813797
    >>18813737

    >he lauded the Tau Empire as "A rising power in the Galaxy, destined to encompass all in a new age of science and progress under the benevolent guide of the blessed Ethereals."
    After we have dealt with the Smurfs and the Sisters, we really should get Rodoris declared Excommunicate Tratoris and posthumously executed if he is confirmed dead.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)05:32 No.18813801
    >>18813737
    This post is a bit unclear to me, are the transcripts about our tax man or the old governor? If it is the governor then shit balls this sucks.
    >> Tgdude 04/22/12(Sun)05:32 No.18813802
    Needs archive
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/22/12(Sun)05:35 No.18813815
    >>18813801

    The old Governor.
    >> Editor 04/22/12(Sun)05:35 No.18813819
    >>18813752
    Exactly. Going to try to shove this down his throat in dialogue.
    >>18813737
    Show the copy of Rodoris' comment to the Captain and everyone else there.

    "I cannot but put this before you, my Lord. Perhaps this fool thought he could embroil Ultramar in some reenactment of the events in the Damocles Gulf, and bring shame upon them. I am glad to expose him for the cheat and saboteur he was, and will caution against any machination that may lie in wait here, whatever trap he sought to spring against the Ultramarines. It is plain enough he was not meaningful in his claims of fealty to you and the Realm you represent; it is more clear that conflict over territory and duty would only serve his purpose. As such, I am motivated to place a moratorium on the fealty of this world changing hands at all, lest the new vassal finds himself so beset upon and embroiled that he is unable to make this world to serve our master on Terra entirely."

    If the captain seems to accept this:

    "I will gladly offer you a modest gift, my Lord, to make up for your troubles - would a tonnage of Adamantium and a number of Ragnarok-pattern tanks be of any use to your chapter or the Auxilia of Ultramar or in reinforcing other worlds you watch over?"
    >> Metatron 04/22/12(Sun)05:37 No.18813831
    >>18813819
    Editor, you are a god among Anons and fags.
    >> Editor 04/22/12(Sun)05:38 No.18813844
    >>18813815
    Thanks a heap for the thread and the quest, man. Was fun trying to just-as-planned your smurf.
    >> Editor 04/22/12(Sun)05:41 No.18813857
    >>18813831
    Thanks. I try hard to be as much of a fag as possible when not namefagging.

    So I'm developin' a plan to create the Von Braun Holdings ownership structure of other companies and so on, and redesign the military. Gonna be interesting.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)05:44 No.18813872
    >>18813815
    Thank you for the clarification, Also thanks for running this quest. It's been fun but it's late.
    >> Anonymous 04/22/12(Sun)05:58 No.18813993
    Aww, its over. I was hoping to gift the Ultramarines a kayak or a dinghy or something like that.



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