I'm always looking for new games to read. Hit me up and I'll help pimp it out for you.

skipping page 2 (is just the title).
Page 3 is the usual thank-yous and such.

>>18757682
pimp it, bro! 9 coupons left.

wtf, malicious code in page 4? gah, hold on. This calls for minor photoshop.

trying page 4 again..

Nice cover art. Who did it?

prologue

>>18757801
A crazy serbian named Adam Isailovic. He kicks ass

http://adamisailovic.com/

I saw you in reddit earlier today. I have to say, your stuff looks really good.

7 its the second time I post this comic here, although I changed some dialogs to fit the book better.

>>18757886
thanks! want a coupon?

9

10

>>18757908
Yeah, please

>>18757972
you got it. 8 left.

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>>18757886
Link?

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Send one my way? This looks interesting.

I'll give you this: starting a source book with a comic is kinda unusual. But it works because it hooks you right away.

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>>18757653
I don't run a website or anything, but I would be up for showing it around my university games society, it looks intriguing.

>>18758037
sent, 7 left.
>>18758065
Thanks man, that was the idea!
>>18758019
reddit.com/r/shadowside

I'd love one. Thanks!

>>18758019
http://www.reddit.com/r/rpg/comments/se6gp/hey_guys_remember_the_enter_the_shadowside_game/

>>18758104
>>18758097
sent and sent. 5 left. I'd really appreciate if you could help me up with the reviews in DTRPG, btw. Don't lie of course, post whatever you think it's honest. I think it will let you do that once you download your copy.

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OP, this is fucking awesome. No need to give me a copy, let someone else who can't afford it have one.

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Thank man, I'm on a bus right now so I'll give it a read on my trip.

Thank man, I'm on a bus right now so I'll give it a read on my trip.
Art is neat.

>>18758137
Oh shi-

>>18758179
that's a gent, right there.

>>18758246
You're very welcome! Do let me know what you think when you're done, good or bad I want to know. Specially if it's bad!

I really liked the concept when I read it a while back. It has a lot of cool ideas possible, and I'd like to read it if you're willing to toss out a copy. I'm more than willing to review it, if you'd like that.

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Art is awesome but I can't wait to see some mechanics.

>>18758292
Sent! 4 left. And yes, a review would help me tons. I have zero budget for publicity, so coming here and to reddit is about all I can do. Word of Mouth is going to make or break this.

>>18758300
Ah, well, just in time. Comic's over. This page explains a little bit about character creation, and next is the character sheet, which I didn't post to DTRPG, but what the hell, we need some meat in the thread.

>>18758110
Upvoting. I'm loving everything I've seen so fat, and if you got praise from trollitc, that means something too.

Man, this seems really cool! could you throw one of those copies my way?

aaand 24, at least we got to see the character sheet.

>>18758324
If it can be used for horror, I'll probably have good things to say about it. I figure a bit of word-of-mouth on /tg/ will also help, so if it's good, I shall mention it whenever appropriate.

>>18758388
done, hook me up with the review, man. 3 left.

That's all I've got, gents.

>>18758411
Agreed about /tg/.

You know what, fuck it, I don't know if this hurt or help my sales, but I want to post the orgs too. Here we go.

>>18758443
Gentleman and scholar, etc. thank you.

first org

art here was not by adam, but a different guy named Jesus Garcia.

second org

>>18758396
This.... this is genius. The way stats combine... wow, OP.

>>18758523
thanks man! It was a way to have 14 stats with the maintenance overhead of just 7. Also, you see the split between physical and non-physical. Body and Soul are like HP counters that don't really matter much, storywise losing points here is just "fleshwounds" and "bruises", or "headaches" and "flashbacks", if mental. If they run out, then Life is the actual, real HP counter, and losing points there is serious business, grievous damage, long-term recovery, permanent consequences, etc.

These factions are seriously badass.

the original faction of the unnaturals (another project I had)

>>18758586
thanks man. trying to have something for everyone. They're all archetypes, really, but I wanted enough wiggle room for every player to make whatever they wanted. I hate the line "but [class] is not supposed to [action/attitude]".

>>18758567
So we can have big damn heroes that eventually just run out of luck, eh?

this one is based on old school occultism. Golden Dawn, Rosicrucians, etc. Think Eyes Wide Shut with less sex and more actual magic, or Rosemary's Baby in a higher social class. Old rich fucks messing around with powers beyond the mortal plane.

>>18758396
Am I correct in reading this that the Spirit stat can be used twice for a paranormal skill? Or is the Mind/Spirit selected based on the skill or circumstances surrounding the skill use?

Also, gotta agree with >>18758523, this is a beautiful combination of stats. Do they decrease proportionately with damage to body/mind/life? Like if I have a Charisma of 4 and Life of 6 (So Beauty of 5), and I take 2 Life damage, does that drop my Beauty to 4?

>>18758634
you have no idea how right on the money you are.

One core mechanic here is "Belief Points", which work like Mana for casting spells, and like Bennies for fixing failed rolls. They represent your conviction, which is the source of your power in the Shadowside (a realm made up of thoughts and feelings, after all). So yes, literally, Soul and Body are HP counters to mechanically represent heroes who have firefights and face oncoming buses and do all sorts of crazy stunts, until yes, they run out of luck and a single bullet cripples their third vertebrae. The goal is to have players start to seriously worry once Body and Soul go low.

>>18757653
If you've any copies left I'll gladly take one to look through

>>18758666
>Am I correct in reading this that the Spirit stat can be used twice for a paranormal skill?

close! What happens is that a big part of the game is something called "Hierogamy", where the PC willingly hosts a spirit with him. The spirit has stats of his own. So what >>18758396 is saying is that the final Might for that skill, is the sum of the skill points of the PC, plus the skill points of the spirit the PC is in Hierogamy with.

Pic related, a sample filled out sheet:

>>18758705
Ditto. I'd love to peruse this as well.

Oh hey, I was wondering when you'd come back. Did you do anything with the opposed check scale?

>>18758705
sent, 1 left!

>>18758666
>Also, gotta agree with >>18758523, this is a beautiful combination of stats. Do they decrease proportionately with damage to body/mind/life? Like if I have a Charisma of 4 and Life of 6 (So Beauty of 5), and I take 2 Life damage, does that drop my Beauty to 4?

That is correct! If a character reached the point of actually having life damage, then all his stats are penalized accordingly. This is something that should not, by all means, happen frequently. This is a big deal for the PC, something that will leave scars even after it heals. Usually Body and Soul will soak up all damage first, and are easy to restore with things such as first aid kits, or even rest. Life damage on the other hand requires calling 911 (an example, I'm just saying it's a big deal). And yeah, Life damage does penalize all rolls.

Bumping for more info.

>>18758788
thank you! dling and reading.

>>18758735
Holy shit, now I'm really psyched. I didn't realize you'd be hosting a spirit, and that this would affect your stats. (Btw, Mind and Dexterity are missing a stat. It look like it transposed them a bit off).

Does the spirit you're hosting have their own world-turtle that you combine with yours, or just a set value or range of values for all stats? Can your spirit be something like a demon or angel, or does it have to be a spirit of an actual person?

Totally up for a copy of this if there's one left, looks very interesting and I can pump it with my irl people for ya

>>18758741
Sent! aaaand I ran out of coupons! Enjoy!

>>18758745
Hey! I had a guy who is a mathematical genius named goatsgomoo take a really hard look at Jacob's Ladder. It took a lot of back and forth, but finally he gave it his blessing. It is Very Fucking Accurate now, from what I'm told. I'm looking for the thread now.

>>18758817
That's a cool part for me too! The Spirit is roleplayed by the StoryHost. The StoryHost is supposed to be agreeable to what the PC wants, but yes, it's a different person that goes with you, and has mental conversations with you.

Here's the page on Hierogamy :)

>Does the spirit you're hosting have their own world-turtle that you combine with yours, or just a set value or range of values for all stats?

You combine the two world turtles, as in >>18758735 see how each trait has three numbers, left is spirit, right is PC, center is the sum.

>Can your spirit be something like a demon or angel, or does it have to be a spirit of an actual person?

Angels and Demons, and ghosts, and all kinds of entities. Malleos is more likely to use judeochristian terminology, but Somosa, for instance, refer to their spirits as "Abuelos" (grandfathers), as they are their actual ancestors, who usually died as slaves...

>>18758819
sorry bro, I just ran out! It's just five bucks though. If you really can't afford it, email me at blacksmith@fableforge.org and I'll send you a fresh coupon tomorrow.

Ahahah I love the /x/ faction. I have friends who would love this.

Not kidding, the more I read the more I'm falling in love with this shit.

and that's it. There are two more organizations.... but they are supersekrit...

>>18758937
some say that is the *least* realistic part of the whole book.....! but what can I say, they're fun to write.

>>18758941
thanks man!! pass the word, seriously!

>>18758970
Seem fun to play. The powers remind me of pic related.

Weren't you looking for writers last time you were here? I was going to join up but then school started and sucked up my life.

>>18759012
It's all open canon!

>>18758996
It's the second time I hear about that game, apparently it's really good! I'll try to get it.

>>18759012
That's right! I'm going with something called "Open Canon", basically, anyone who feels inspired to write anything Shadowside (or draw, or sculpt, or whatever), is allowed to sell it and profit from it without owing me a dime. So very soon, I hope, we should see some more Shadowside related stuff by other authors.

>>18759039
>>18759024
But isn't that a little dangerous? What if someone writes shit, won't that dilute your brand?

OP, post the URL of your store page already. You've earned my monies.

>>18759061
Well, even though I want zero royalties, I did reserve the right of choosing what is canon and what isn't. But that's what the subreddit is for. There are official writers there, one of each organization, and the idea is to work with everyone who wants to write, as long as they're willing to play ball. In the end, we'll only give the "canon seal", so to speak, to the quality works. Then they can sell them and keep all their money; it's theirs.

>>18759073
lol, http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product/101372/Enter-The-Shadowside---Core-Book
buy buy buy

>>18759110
Please don't do like owod and document fucking everything. I hated when my players arrived at the table knowing more than me because they googled it. I hated even more when I tried to surprise them and they said it wasn't canon.

>>18759156
I'm sure that isn't the intent.
The vibe I got from the project was that you can write/do whatever you want, but the author gets the write to say what hits the actual canon.
As in, you can have as much fun as you want but he gets to choose what is a part of the universe.

>>18758996
I've been saying this forever.

>>18759156
We are of the same mind. No, the corebook leaves a lot of things vague on purpose. We'll never have authoritative Bibles, only ... general directions.

In fact, I'll give you a spoiler: the endgame has the seven organizations taking opposite sides on a sort of spiritual war. Which organizations take which sides... will always be different from one campaign to another. Everything is designed so that whichever side each organization takes, there are good fucking reasons to support their decision. So yeah, everything is open to the StoryHost and the players. Nothing is in stone.

>>18759185
Yup, that is correct.
Basically, we will protect canon at a spirit level: Scavenger will always be about anarchs and geeks, for instance. But different authors may use different specifics and it will be cool as long as they remain true to the spirit.

>>18759187
> the endgame has the seven organizations taking opposite sides on a sort of spiritual war. Which organizations take which sides... will always be different from one campaign to another.

I.. don't think I've seen that done before.

I like it.

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I hope you guys enjoyed this stuff, and if you want to help out, find me in /r/shadowside.

It's been real, gents.

>See this
>Remember it from a while back
>What? Released?
>MFW
I'll have to send this on to my DM. And grab a copy myself.

Thanks OP. Looking really good.

Wow, this looks fantastic. Can you put this on Megaup-

on an FTP for us fa/tg/uys that weren't here for the invites?

OH SHIT

this finally came out?

A-are there any coupons left? There's a few irc rooms I'm in that were interested in this when it first came out.

>>18759408
I got one of the PDFs. Here's a screenshot of what OP has to say about your idea.
Don't be a dick.

> look at DTRPG page

> the squareness of this world has made your mind wander, and in dreams you've been given glimpses of elsewhere
> squareness of this world

EARTH HAS 4 CORNER
SIMULTANEOUS 4-DAY
TIME CUBE
WITHIN SINGLE ROTATION.
4 CORNER DAYS PROVES 1
DAY 1 GOD IS TAUGHT EVIL.

>>18759494
Wow. This will be the first time I'm convinced not to pirate something.

I've told everyone who ever mentioned interest even in passing about this (and then some).

May you be showered in nerd gold, OP.

>>18759494
What are you, his butler?

I just wanted to peruse a book that I would likely never play and surely never pay for. But OP is entitled to my money. I suppose if he ran a book store, people would not be allowed to touch the books before paying for them?

That's a ridiculous practice.

>>18759593
So having 40 pages of a 70 page book up in this thread, right here, right now, isn't good enough for you to make up your mind? I think you may be the type of person responsible for the death of shareware.

>>18759621
Shareware's still about. Preordering is what killed most of it off.

>>18759593
Did you read the screenshot I posted? Just email OP, tell him you can't afford five bucks and he'll give you a copy. Jesus, dude.

For the record OP, your PDF will be wrong when transferred to book format. Odd numbered pages are always on the right, with evens on the left. So either your numbering is off or your Organizations and corresponding pictures are on the front and back of the same page and not side-by-side.

>>18759649
Let us review, shall we?

>70 page sourcebook
>5 bucks
> Indie game, one man production
> open canon so other writers can profit
> gives away ten copies
> will email copies to poorfags

And you say

> lets put this on mega up!

Mfw I have no face.

>>18759621
40 pages and exactly 19 of them are garbage. If I go buy the latest DnD you can bet your ass half the rulebook isn't a comic.

>>18759559
ditto. If only more artists operated this way.

OP, did you illustrate all that yourself or have it commissioned? It is very good for an indie game

>>18759751
wow. 9/10. came this close to a good rage, there.

>>18759494
>stiffle

OHHHH PEEEEEEEE

>>18757835
not OP, but see this >>18759785

>>18759822
Your numbers are flipped in your post, but thank you! I did not have a chance to read through the book yet.

Damn. OP you have earned my moneys. Buying a copy of this on payday.

It would be awesome if more sourcebooks started with comics.

Whoah, I remember this! That was awesome. Anyways, congrats, OP! I'd buy this in a heartbeat.
As soon as I can figure out how to get my debit card.

>>18758350
>>18758443
Shit, man, I remember you asking /tg/ how they were feeling about these a long while ago. I assumed it was just another "lolguise look what I thought up in class today" that was going to go nowhere. Way to prove me wrong. If I ever stop being a huge poorfag, you will receive $5, or whatever DRPG gives you in sales.

This thread makes me feel I should get off my ass, put Skyrim down for a moment and just write the story I've had in my head all winter.

>>18760043
I remember that too, and I thought the same thing. This is one of the rare cases when people actually end up doing what they promised they would do.

>>18760043
Email OP, he said he'll send free books to anyone who can't afford the price.

I hate reddit, but I'm making an account for this.

Made it home finally. Read the entire thing on the bus, aside from the DO NOT READ THIS at the back. I am for sure going to run this. For some reason it's reminding me of Nobilis, but without being shit.

In terms of layout, I was a little confused when I saw items with modifiers on them at the start of the book and no mention of them until near the end. That could be easily fixed however.

>>18760623
> aside from the DO NOT READ THIS at the back
oh fuck, I don't think I could resist something like that....

>>18760711
It was tempting, I started to skim but then was like NO. I WILL RESIST.

Storyteller's aren't supposed to read until they've run about 6 sessions or so. Not saying any more than that.

>>18760749
must be related to the endgame thing.
Shit, now I MUST know...... gaahh.. I need a DM!

>>18760623
Sounds like it's well worth the five bucks. Welp, that does it for me, OP got another sale.

No, thread. It is not yet your time to die.

Whoever of you is Dustin R: your review is poetic but you didn't actually talk about game.

>>18760623
If you run it online, I'd sure as hell like to participate.

Keeping this alive for American /tg/.

>>18759751
>40 pages and exactly 19 of them are garbage. If I go buy the latest DnD you can bet your ass half the rulebook isn't a comic.
If you buy DnD right now all of it would be garbage, comic or not.

>>18766066
I agree there. Others disagree, but regardless of how we feel about DnD, saying that the comic was garbage is just trollish. The art is awesome, and the story is a good example of how Hierogamy could go.

I'm got a coupon yesterday. I just finished reading it.

Came back to say the book is actually pretty good. The fluff mixes with the rules, specially with Belief Points, which you can use like MP but also to mess with your dice rolls. Belief Points are awarded when you win hard rolls, but you can also lose them when you fail easy rolls, so that represents conviction pretty well. PvPs with Belief Points are going to be fucking brutal, I bet.

All in all, it's great. I'm gonna pester my group to get this.

I like mage.
I like unknown armies.

They both have a couple issues for my players, such as being convoluted, needlessly complicated, etc.

This is the modern magic setting I've always wanted that I never knew I wanted. Thanks OP.

>>18767387
This, very much.

It reminds me of Unknown Armies, but on way less LSD, if you know what I mean. This is not a knock on Unknown Armies cuz I'm sure that game is exactly what it wants to be, but Shadowside's universe that just makes more sense and has more internal coherence. Also, I read the Endgame part I wasn't supposed to read, and I sort of regret it, but it's what made me see how the whole thing wraps together.

>>18767465
does /x/ know about this game? I think they should be thrilled to know one org is linked to them, but knowing them they'll probably find something to bitch about.

>>18768101
I just told them, lets see if they have anything to say.

>>18767170
if you come back to this thread: is there more information about the organizations elsewhere in the rulebook? Other than what was posted here?

>>18769925
Feel free to write some.

>>18769967
>>18769925
>>18769925
if you dig deep enough in the subreddit, you find stuff like this: http://www.reddit.com/r/shadowside/comments/p5xvf/storymalleus_thy_will_be_done/