>>18669582
If you've got some questions, then here's the jist of it to get you started: InfiniCon takes place in the fictional Infinity city. A place which exists solely for the Con itself. Nearly every citizens is an attendee, and because of this, they are also partially responsible for running things in the city and the convention, which has led to some unique problems. While a few 'normal' people might live in the city, they are by far the most miniscule of minorities. Everyone else is some sort of geek, nerd, or fan, and it shows.

The city exists as a collection of 5 districts which cater to a different genre or type and fandom and even though they are separated into their own sections of the city, their coexistence isn't all that peaceful. Turf wars and territorial disputes are common as they try to keep each other from overstepping their boundaries.

If you want to know more, you can check out the 1d4chan article over here
>http://1d4chan.org/wiki/InfiniCon
And you can come and bullshit with us on the Rizon irc channel at #InfiniCon. Just open up chat.mibbit.com, select Rizon from the drop down, and type in #InfiniCon for the Channel.

So it's basically Vegas for nerds?

>>18669599
something like that, but with less gambling and more costumes

>>18669599
More or less. Tourism is definitely a big thing for InfiniCon as some people come for the larger annual events, concerts, gatherings, and so on. Not everyone can afford to stay, but that's partially because there aren't enough apartments and jobs to go around, and partly because a lot of fans are irresponsible teens.

>>18669626
Let get you the updated version of that.

I'd get a place in Fantasy, preferably close to Western but not so close as to be in "Turf War every Wednesday" territory.
I'd probably run with the bohemian homebrew crowd, pull the whole starving artist gig.

>>18669626
>>18669648
So where exactly do video games fit in there?

>>18669700

well, It's not like that you could be a videogame fan only in one specific district, so if you a hardcore mass effect fan probably you will try to find a place in the scifi-tech district, but maybe you can only rent room somewhere in the western media district.

Or if it's about working in the City maybe you are not just a videogame fan but actually now a thing or two about computers so maybe you work in a store or you are a programmer, something like that.

Or you just really want to wear that Link costume and break into other peoples house to smash their pottery, until someone catches you

>>18669700
Every district has their own video games, the way I see it. Sequestering them to one district wouldn't really make sense because gamers get along even less than the usual types of nerds. Imagine Call of Duty and Final Fantasy fans trying to share the same apartment, let alone a whole district?

Just think of each district as an umbrella for a certain theme, which can contain books, games, shows, and movies. Also keep in mind that living in one district does not keep you from visiting others or even enjoying the things it contains.

No reason for someone from the Anime district to not like the Elder Scrolls games in addition to JRPGs and City of Heroes, or whatever.

However, I guess if you just wanted to be a vidya kind of guy, the sci-fi district might be your best bet. It would have the more electronics stores with the anime district in a close second.

a little bump for the thread

where are the guys who kept asking me for a whole week that when will be the next InfiniCon thread?

>>18669582
Huh, her lips must be pretty loose to hang all the way down to her knee.

I bet the city smells terrible.

Can you just pick 5 districts or as many as desired? If only 5, the top 5 here, otherwise all of them.

> Warhammer 40K players/painters/modellers/fans
> Guitarists
> Bronies
> RC pilots
> Programmers
> Watch enthusiasts
> Gamers
> Futurama fans
> Star Wars fans

I haven't even thought of a Utopia like this before. I love you OP. While this obviously would never happen, and if it did it would be disastrous, it's an awesome idea to mull around.

Before I make my decision, a few questions. Do we bring outside resources to this city? What is the average age of the population? Drinking age? And are these turf wars legitimately violent? Or mostly posturing and financial?

>>18670349
>giving horse fuckers their own area

>>18670374
Nobody has these answers?

>>18670349
well as for now there is only that five district but they are not "only those things are here" but "mostly those things are here but you will find way more stuff"

>>18670374
you could bring as it's a "real" city in the setting, nothing says you can't
average population is somewhere around half a million settled citizen with another 100k tourist. Plus the people in the suburbs and the UnderCon
The turf wars are not really legal but as long as they don't get any more serious as a few bruises and such they will somehow overlooked

>>18670449
sorry I'm a little slow today

>Live in the suburbs outside of town
>Ride the Light-Rail into the Sci-fi district every morning
>Owner and master electrician of "Tesla Power Solutions"
>Our motto: "Ours is The Power to Change The World."
>Service, repair, and install gratuitous amounts of POWER for the sci-fi district.
>Invent context-sensitive "shootable" electronic door panels.
>If you want to open the door: shoot the panel.
>if you want to close the door: shoot the panel.
>if you want to lock the door behind you: shoot the panel.

>>18670449
I'll try:

1. Just like any other city, Infinicon brings outside resources in... Like most urban areas, almost everything is imported: from raw materials to finished products.

2. The average age of the population is probably a little younger than you'd expect, but old enough to know better.

3. Drinking age is set at the same as the drinking age in whatever country you want this to be in.

4. Sometimes... as violent as nerd-fights usually get... plus a little extra.

>>18670526
You become the space pirates?

>>18670374
>>18670574
oh fuck, age of the population not the number... I need to get some sleep...

But as the non said it, most not adult people will be just a tourist, the settled people mostly adults (with exceptions of course), but in the suburbs where whole families could live (like the family of the technician who works at the powerplant, or the doctors family who works at the hospital)
And of course the UnderCon will have it's part of young misfits too...
Although I think there won't be too much old people, but then again, there are always a few exception

>>18670465
The average age? Local drinking age?
If I opened a 40k-themed bar called The Commissar's Cap, would I get much business?

>>18670719
Fundamentally, this is a massive Convention, so Yes, i would drink from the Commisar's Cap.

Become an IT Tech-Priest, who occasionally writes Bobby Tables Attacks in SQL while quoting XKCD...

Either that, or professional banditry. Think about it...after so long, such a con is basically going to be Neckbeard Somalia.

>>18670719
>The average age? Local drinking age?
good question. We never really thought about this, but I think it would be safe to assume that roughly 30-40% of the population is somewhere between 20 and 35.
About the local drinking age...on one hand because of the number of young people it should be somehow higher if the city don't want a lot of trouble with drunk youths, but on the other hand the City REALLY needs every income, and people will always find a way to get their booze.
Right now I don't know (I would say that under 21, maybe as far as 18) but regardless you will have enough costumer

Can I live in the lolita district? I think that's the correct term.

I... just like women in pretty dresses.

I'd wear a suit all day every day, and be a perfect gentlemen. Because in my mind, this district is like stepping into a Victorian / Edwardian district.

>>18670869
>Think about it...after so long, such a con is basically going to be Neckbeard Somalia.
But don't forget there will be White Knights too! some of them maybe actual knights

"Welcome to InfiniCon!" the bright garish letters of the leaflet joyously proclaimed what I had already known.
I set my belongings into the apartment and begin carefully putting what small collection I have into an order. Choosing a district was far too difficult. I carefully slide a copy of Osamu Tezuka's Adolf beside the hardbound edition of The Killing Joke. A plush cutebold leans against a copy of Neuromancer. They were being ordered by importance, by sentimental value, nothing that could be discerned by an outsider.

I look on my pile of RPG systems. They were what pushed me to stay in the Fantasy district. I am a GM. Not a very good one perhaps, but interacting with a story was far more interesting than simply consuming it.

"I guess this was to be expected." I was the youngest within the shop. I had no roots, no lover nor family to really tie me down. The shop wanted to expand to InfiniCon and I guess, their best choice was me. I'm not sure if I should feel sorry for them or me.

I find the work sheet and go through it the tenth or so time today. Delivery for the weekly comics was on tuesdays as per usual, ready to be sold on wednesday. They space was generous and the shop had room to expand. I could run FNMs or maybe even a weekly RP, alongside selling comic, manga and roleplay books.

Still, I'm a stranger in a strange land, but I gotta push on.

What else can you do?

>>18670824

>>18670906
>Can I live in the lolita district? I think that's the correct term.

Why not? although that will be the anime/eastern media district most likely

>>18671036
I could probably handle that. As long as giant robots don't rattle the china too much, or something.

>>18670925
The distinction can be vague at times. Some Knights are going to be thugs with swords. Even the ones that are being all by the book would be within their rights to kick your ass for the sole purpose of holding you and your nice things ransom.

It all sounds wonderful at first, but then I think about my favourite quote from Bioshock:

“Everyone came to Rapture expecting to be captains of industry, but someone has to scrub the toilets."

So fa/tg/uys, when you realise that the market is already over saturated for the store you wanted to open, when all the jobs at established stores are already taken and each new position gets thousand of aplicants, when you end up being mr toilet scrubber, will you still enjoy living there?

>>18670598
I made their existence possible!

>>18671199
The thing is: we don't all need to work at a game store. Many of us will need to do the exact things we allready do, but it will be in an environment that is a million times more awesome.

Like the guy who wants to open the Commissar's Cap? Fundamentally, it's no different from wanting to open a bar, or a cafe, or a restaurant. He'll still hve to take orders, make food, and scrub dishes at the end of the day... the fact that he gets to wear a peaked cap and sash while doing it is what makes it priceless.

I suppose this would be a place where form would matter as much as function. I imagine being an architect here would be amusing.

"Sir, your plans for a thirteen-story condominium apartment complex was rejected, on the grounds that it featured an insufficient number of turrets, you have two, local ordinances require one per four stories... and the portcullis did not meet local building standards, it must be at least three inches higher to accommodate potential vehicular traffic. Make these changes and then resubmit for approval... if you do this within ninety days, the fee is waived."

>>18670824
I would retire to your fine establishment at the end of every day with my battul bruthas. Also that name is awesome as fuck.

>>18671479

>>18671505
livingthedream.jpg

>>18671138
I had a major case of staircase wit, and now I have to add something.

I think I would prefer to live in a section that is about something I myself aren't that interested in. If I'm living in the section about stuff I like, it might lose its appeal. Especially if I'm exposed to the creepy stuff everyday (looking at you MLP section!)

By contrast, if I live in a section about something I have low interest / knowledge in, the times I'm there will be strange and new and kinda magical.

bump

>>18671626
well no one says you have to live your whole life in one place, you can pretty much move around

I'd probably offer to tour normal people around the city a la Stalker. Maybe live in the upper areas of the con like a hermit, helping whatever warring factions (because there probably will be some) for whatever I needed at the time.

>>18669582
I'd be security/police. Host mil-sim stuff, let people play space marines with airsoft, charge to run my role-playing games instead of just accept room and board, all kinds of shit.

I'd have a ton of ways to make money and live at the con forever.

I was here for the first couple of threads.

What happened to all of the extra power shit that comes about when you get super deep in character? Was that scrapped or something?

>>18672437
not scrapped put put away until we get there. if we figure out the mundane workings we can still add superpowers later, also there are things that won't change until it's "batshit insane high-fantasy"

bump before sleep

I'm back. Let's see where we left off..

>>18670349
While some of these things are rather huge, they are not big enough to get their own district. Keep in mind that each district contains hundreds of thousands of citizens and lots of property as well. There would be plenty of space for all of those things in the already established Districts.

>>18670374
You could easily bring in anything you could pack or afford to ship into the city, I suppose.
Average age would probably be around the mid 20's, maybe older in some districts, younger in others. At least old enough to work and pay rent, I guess. Drinking age - National average of wherever you decide to plop this city, I'd say.
And turf wars.. Often nothing worse than bruising and scarping, like Hungarian said, but that doesn't mean they are exempt from unnecessary escalation and danger. There's always at least one guy who takes things too far.

>>18670906
There would definitely be a Lolita district. They've got to get their frilly dresses and peticoats somewhere, right? I imagine that would be one of the few groups that has allies in the Anime, Fantasy, and LARP district.

>>18675271
Arg... Mis-type. There would definitely be a lolita neighborhood, but they wouldn't get their own district.. Perhaps lolita groups or organizations.. But whatever. You get what I mean. It's late. Shut up.

>>18672437

I think we decided that there were a few different power levels that you could play the game at.

Completely normal and realistic
Immersion that acted more like delusion (people saw themselves as having superpowers and real weapons, but in reality, they don't)
And people actually getting real powers from increased immersion.

I don't think we've hammered out hard rules for those stats if you want to play it that way though, not yet.

>>18675271

do want

I'd personally rather work as a neutral party as a vendor or staff rather than integrating fully into a specific fandom. (although I definitely would hang out with a bunch of them)

I think I'll be living in the Sci-fi/Tech district, oftentimes going to the fantasy/RPG district, and sometimes go to the Western Media district. I'd probably stop over at Anime district sometime though, looking for good new anime & manga.

I'd probably use my Counter-Strike skills to help excursions into the Undercon, though. Or Shadowrunning stuff.

>>18672437
>>18675324
What this guy said. It exists in a few different incarnations.
While I'm not entirely keen on the idea of going into a fullblown homebrew just yet, once I do get there, each will be represented in the rules. In the case of Immersion and the crazy high fantasy super power angle, such rules would be optional, but still available.

>>18675412
You filthy neutrals make me sick...
I kid.
The closest thing to normal folk would probably be like yourself. Smart enough to know that dedication to one singular genre or thing is dangerously stupid. Being able to freely walk between districts is a fairly nice boon, when you get down to it.

Dedication to one thing may have its benefits, but it has its drawbacks, as well.

I'd collect and peddle eldritch artifacts of horror. I imagine I'd buy from Con-goers, but mostly import, and sell from a push-cart. My main path would be between Sci-Fi and Fantasy, with the occasional trek to the Anime quarter (for those who enjoy tentacled horror-toys of the sexual kind).

It's late and I need sleep. I'll see you goons in the morning.

and morning bump

It occurs to me, with all these images of chicks in sexy cosplay, that such an environment might actually help the male nerd populace at large get over their inability to hit on girls.
I mean, presumably, you'd get desensitized. If this chick dressed as Morrigan shoots you down, there's always the one dressed as Lilith around the corner.

Easy, I'd run a whorehouse annex drug-den, with theme and girls appropriate for the masses of horny nerds.

Gotta make bank.

>>18679681

...
Fuck you for thinking of that before I did.

>>18679781
Want to franchise this out to the LARPers?

I'm imagining a treehouse of ill repute.

>>18679681
and you will kidnap anyone who looks like a waifu too so they will work at your brothel?

>Modern Millitary district is filled with Re-enactors, Grognards, and FPS gamers
>Grognards run the place, Re-enactors are important functionaries, FPS gamers rebel but are quickly put down due to attempts to circle-strafe IRL

>>18675324
>Immersion that acted more like delusion (people saw themselves as having superpowers and real weapons, but in reality, they don't)
ODIN! I HEAR YOU ODIN! AAAAAH! MJOLNIR! MJOLNIR!

>>18679887
don't forget the airsoft guys

>>18680149
GUYS! spacings guys, some dildo bimbles in
to a MON-200 an you are all fucked

Is there room for a blacksmith in a pagan-esque society in the woods?

>>18680280
fuck no! We are way safer here, why don't YOU go out there?

>>18680361
I would say that there is even a demand for blacksmiths

>>18679859
Excuse me, this is a completely legal and transparant business, we have all required permits for both the brothel and the coffeeshop.
And the women are employees, they can quit if they want.
But I pay well, so why would they?

>>18679681
Seedy underbelly sort of stuff totally supports that, illegal substances and all. Where would convention room parties be without drugs and sex?

Additionally, running a whorehouse where a client can pick a girl dressed as his favorite waifu. Sex fantasies on demand would be an incredibly popular business model. I think I mentioned that in one of the threads..

>>18679904
Something like that.. But when Thor goes crazy, he starts taking everyone with him, and they are forced to play along.

>>18680361
Fantasy and LARP districts would love to have blacksmiths around. There would be issues with carrying live steel around the city, but most would find ways around that. High Quality replicas and collectors items are always in demand, after all.

There is also the Industrial District, which isn't as much of a district as the others, but if you wanted to build a proper forge, you'd want some property in the Industrial district. Trying to set up a forge in your apartment or some back alley is sure to be problematic and lead to poor quality goods and probably some hefty fines for almost setting a building on fire.

>>18681000
well he can build an authentic medieval forge in the larp district too

Bump

I apologize for the slowness of this thread.
Thursday night is game night, you see, and I'm the GM.. So I have to toss together the campaign for tonight's game.

I'll try and answer questions if people have any.

>>18669597
Any more of her?

>>18684393
Okay, i have a dumb idea for an InfiniCon campaign, help me flesh it out a bit.

Protagonist is a security officer for InfiniCon. Just like any real city, Infinicon has their own uniformed police, generally wearing Regulation Blues, but you may find slight pattern variations in the various districts (LARP security wears Breastplate over their kevlar, carries old-style nightsticks instead of colapseable batons, all Eastern security have sentai helmets, etc.) but the higher ranked members (detectives) get to dress... casually. Our hero lives in the Sci-fi quarter, but loves himself some Sam Spade... His daily wear makes him look like something out of a 1930's film noir movie, though he carries the regulation Taser-dart system all Sci-fi quarter cops have.

The game would be set a few decades after the founding of InfiniCon, late enough for the population to level out and the city to be it's own self-regulating body... you've got the old guard (people who immigrated to InfiniCon at the beginning), and the new migrants (always good for social tension), and the distinct... flavor of InfiniCon at your side.

Also: for some reason i get a real cyberpunk vibe off of InfiniCon, like, the ethical standards might be a little... loose regarding physical augmentation...

I'm a sci-fi lover at heart, but I end up living and working security in the Fantasy area because while I own some full steel armour and weaponry, I'm not into most LARP culture. So I'm a man-at-arms of the Fantasy food-and-drinks section, stalking the isles in brigandine with a billhook, snaring thieves and savagely beating trouble makers and anime invaders with my wooden club. I've occasionally had to drive out some of my fellow sci-fi lovers on their more boisterous excursions, praying none of them will recognise me behind my visor from the occasional small cons I go to in that sector.

>>18684769

right now the idea is that Con-Security is the less professional part of the law enforcement and there could be even volunteer Con-goers there, so even a full blown anime fan could be in the C-Sec theoretically, although they are more like a neighbor-watch then real police officers

The Enforcers are the "professional" police officers who can carry real weapons etc, but of course they could dress up too if it's needed and they want to, but the Infini City Enforcers are police officers first and Con-goers second

>Catchy Intro music plays as B-Roll footage begins.

Male: "Tonight: violence proceeds to escalate in the Black Legion - Sons of Frost conflict: we have an interview with one of the casualties."

Female: "A truck overturning in Neo-Tokyo shuts down vehicle traffic for three hours"

Male: "A recent amendment to Convention rules may put food vendors at greater risk."

Female: "And the Commissar's Cap celebrates it's fifth year in business with a formal Imperial dinner."

"Good Evening Infini City, this is Con News 9."

So it's kind of like in Yu Gi Oh when Kaiba rented out an entire fucking city for his tournament?

Well, that was only temporary, but still.

This guy has to be Chief of Police.

>>18685791
enlighten me, because I don't know shit about Yu Gi Oh

>>18685825


http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Battle_City

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Domino_City


Entire city was shut down for the Tourny.

>>18685864
well InfiniCon's main purpose is fun instead of battles but I can see the parallel

>>18685791
it's more like "if we host it, they will come... and build."

So the skyscrapers in the Sci-Fi district? The suburbs surrounding the place, even the grand central hall... all built by people willing to invest in Infini City.

The Yu-gi-oh setting was where they basically rented a city... which i imagine amounted to cutting every citizen a check and telling them to be out of town for the weekend.

>>18684929
I really want the professional police in all quarters to have extremely accurate/expensive costumes that fit the area/theme whilst still marking them out as police.

>Dosmetic disturbance?
An APC refitted to look like a hovertank rolls on in and disembarks a squad of Stormtroopers who move up to the house and resolve the situation.

>A fight in the local tavern?
The town guard, all in matching uniforms/armour burst in and quickly deal with the troublemakers, taking up to the jail-house on the back of a prison-wagon.

>>18686310
>pick up the can

Just had a neat idea-sectors kinda blend into each other. So as a buffer zone between Industrial and Fantasy you've got the Steampunks, and between Fantasy and Anime you've got everything from Escaflowne to Berserk.

>>18689193
Well, the border areas are separated by convention centers and major streets according to these maps
>>18669626
>>18669648

I don't think the districts and zones are split up by a specific series, but there could be neighborhoods for each of these things. Like, think theme parks with certain areas for certain shit. So, there could be a little steampunk area or a mecha neighborhood in those larger districts.

Also, bump

>>18689646
>>18689193

Well, there is no clear line for the borders apart from the main roads. And it could happen that on the both side of the road you fill see buildings that belongs to the same fandom.
Think about the districts as generalization, like in the scifi area sure most people will be a scifi fan, but you can just as well find there for example gundam fans, or some kind of DnD grognard. There will be always exceptions.

I'd probably find an empty patch somewhere thematically appropriate and open a nightclub that looks like a church. Sure, you can come for a drink, but the real fun is the running LARPs regarding the things in the night. The only problem I can see would be being overbooked, since people are gonna want to hire out the back-rooms for their LARP. That and the DJ being bothered with endless requests.

Me? I'd probably live in the basement of the nightclub or somewhere that isn't a dedicated District.

Question regarding Infinicon. Is it safe for someone dressed appropriately for one District of the 'con to go to another? As in say someone dressed as a Starfleet Science Officer (Sci-Fi district) wandering into the Medieval Fantasy District? Would they be turned away? I'm imagining something like that scene from Big Bang Theory where the guys have enough of Sheldon pointing out the anachronisms and suggest to him that he go as a Science Officer visiting a world whose culture resembles but is different from Medieval times?

>>18694973
> Is it safe for someone dressed appropriately for one District of the 'con to go to another?
Normally it's safe.
If you dress up like a brony then maybe you will get a few harsh worlds or some shopkeeper don't want to sell you things, but that won't be the norm.

On the other hand if there is a temporary grudge between two fandom for some reason and you part of one then it's likely that the other will harass you if you go somewhere near to their place

"Go to the Undercon" they said. "There's plenty of treasures to be recovered" they said.
Staying in make shift rest area with others scavengers, hunters and adventurers. Sleep whenever (Not that it matter when I sleep. Can't tell morning from night down here) I can and spend the rest of the time exploring.
Then after gathering enough item of interest I go up to the surface and start selling them. Gathering money to buy thing I like. Would probably travel around the Eastern Media, Sci Fi and Fantasy the most.

i would open a for profit shower and spa business with japanese style hotspring pools, where everybody would go to take a shower/bath. but as male neckbeards never shower the male section would be designed like an adult cinema and in the female section there would be hidden cameras

>>18695922
Good afternoon, bump.
Let's see what we've got..

>>18684761
Nope. I just have that one and it's the heavily shooped version. The actual picture is much less flattering. There's an idea in there though.. Professional photoshop artists.. Hmm..

>>18684769
>>18684929
While the Enforcers may be Policer Officers first, they are still citizens of Infinity City, and even though costumes aren't mandatory, I don't really see why they wouldn't have special uniforms, especially if it means showing off a bit of district pride.

>>18694973
It's not quite a gang colors type of thing, but citizens will assume certain allegiances based on what costume you wear. You won't get jumped for wearing the wrong costume, but other districts might treat you different. Aslo, like Hungarian said, there's also no accounting for any recent issues that districts may have had with each other.

You may head to your favorite sci-fi district restaurant, only to find they won't seat you because some punks from your district recently caused a huge scene and busted one of their windows or something.

>>18695922
i sure do love when women cosplay something that shows underwear, especially when the original concept they are cosplaying as doesn't

>>18701010
then I hope you will love this pic too

>>18701042
Wow, this thread is turning into /cgl/ in a hurry.

From what I've seen and read, we seem to have fleshed out much of the setting. Is there some kind of list of what needs to be established seetingwise before any sane (or otherwise) GM could run this?

>>18701042
Awwww yeah

It's a tough life being a solicitor in Infini-Con.

Sure, you've got all that money coming in from the RIAA and various media companies, but unlike in the City, in this city, any inkling that people get of your clients and you're going to be lynched.

It doesn't help that the firm gave you the job after a drunken night out when you expressed quite loudly your love for Japanese robot shows. The bastards.

Anyway, it's not all corporate scumbagship. There's IP conflicts a plenty between doujin circles, the various animation and comic studios and of course, good old domestic cases. Divorce, lawsuits, legal representation against criminal charges or prosecution: wherever there's people, they'll be lawyers.

Of course, you'd never tell your family and co-workers that you're starting to enjoy your life here, nor that you've adopted a Sentai villain costume for your court appearances. Best to keep that on the low. After all, you're going to be transferred out of your firms' offiices here anyday now.

Right?

>>18701092
well there is one thing that may really help any would be GM:
A long list with fandoms, and a short description about how people in them dress, act, etc. So even if the GM don't know every one of them he can use it as as crutch to make his/her game a little more colorful.

I'd sell people Internet access.

I'd open up an electronics repair shop somewhere in the Sci-Fi district. Mostly because I'm sure there will always be a need to repair the expensive stuff. Hell, depending on the time period, might expand it to include personal robotic cosmetics, for people who want a personal AI/computer companion for their costume.

Failing that? A pharmacy. Because even nerds need their daily dose.

(Another curious thing I thought is that this setting would be a PERFECT place for major crime rings around the world to deal in their illicit trades without federal interference. Imagine Zetas, Triad, Yakuza and various NA/European/Arfican gangs running about trading drugs, slaves and illegal goods without a care in the world. The smarter ones would likely try to "fit in" and act as fictional crime rings to hide their real intentions. Like, say, Team Rocket.)

>>18701444
>okay, here is the plan. We go into that bank, wave the toy guns and yell "PREPARE FOR TROUBLE!" then demand their money. After that we act stupidly and get out of there. This way noone will think that we are actual criminals!
>Yeah okay... but do we really need to bring this plush cat too?

So here's a thought. This place pretty much runs with costumes, right? So what power and influence would people like, say.. Tailors have?

Perhaps have a main store or a chain in Infinicon or something where people would naturally congregate to get their costumes professionally repaired or upgraded or such. These could serve as trading hubs between the groups, places of neutrality, and excellent places to hear all sorts of juicy gossip and generate plot hooks galore.

The LARPers and Anime cosplayers in particular would probably frequent a place like that. Let's face it. Roughing it INNA WOODS is hard on clothes; period or not. And you know how jealous girls can get about other girls in the same outfit who look better than they do...

I even thought of a name for the business; as groan-worthy as it is, I feel it to be clever.. "The River Stitch", and it has a caricature of Charon as the company mascot. But he's not using an oar, but instead he's using a threaded needle to start sewing through the 'water' lapping up against the boat which is actually cloth of some sort.

Just thought I'd try adding something to this.. May do more later. Not sure.

>>18701882

Well larpers tend to make their own cloths, not everyone of course. They can "live by" on the fabrics only. But of course if someone can produce high quality costumes he can set the price pretty much high because people WILL buy it. Hell, I've even seen webshops with shit tier costumes and people actually bought those at a high price.

And as far as I know /cgl/ has their own kind of edeition war. Namely that some of them thinks everything that you did not make with your own hands is shit, while some of them thinks everything you did not buy from <insert brand name here> is shit
Although I'm not that expert on the /cgl/ front.

So yeah, a famous and good tailor shop could have a little power, maybe they can even cause mass hysteria of some kind

>>18701882
That would work very well as an Infinity City backed shop. The employees there could be on the city payroll or volunteers, much like Con Security. However, you will inevitably have many smaller tailors/clothing stores spread throughout the city specializing in their district's (or perhaps fandom for the incredibly dedicated or talented tailor) costume needs. In the Sci-Fi district you might have a guy who is really good with plastics and prosthetics, while out in the Larper Forest some guy has set up shop where he repairs armor.

>>18702031
Seagulls (/cgl/ goers) will have those preferences, but most of your "low-tier" or nooby cosplayers will not be quite so inclined. Smaller businesses would still be able to thrive if they were cheap or had a good business model.

On the other hand, good costumes from THE Infinicon would probably be in high demand, making the store outrageously successful and (like Potential Writefag said) a good hub for gossip and plot-hooks.

>>18702129
well, low tier larpers are happy with a blanket and a dicksword. Or just two belts and two dickswords

I have a question regarding the list of fandoms. I'm writing something up real quick and thinking about using categories of size instead of stating directly how many members are in a fandom. I have no idea about the intended population of Infinicon, and even if I did I'm not good at distribution. How many people do you think should be in each of these categories? A range would be preferable.

>Cult (John Carpenter's The Thing, Dwarf Fortress)
>Small (S.T.A.L.K.E.R)
>Medium (LARP?, My Little Pony)
>Large (Minecraft, Dungeons and Dragons)
>Gargantuan (Naruto)

I'm probably totally wrong on the relative sizes of the fandoms, but that's just for an approximation. After I get the skeleton and a couple of fandoms in I'll post it here and see if we can't make it a collaborative effort.

>>18701882
>>18702031
For dresses, Lolita, and "formal" wear, owning brand items seems to be more prestigious, but being able to sew and design your own stuff seems to garner some respect. From what I've gathered, there is also some skill that going into coordinating an outfit, but I'm not really an expert on the lolita communities..

With costumes, there seems to be as much prestige to be found in owning and wearing an fantastic looking costume as there is in making one. Think of it like this: You may get the appearance bonus for looking damn good in a costume, but you get an even bigger positive reaction for having made it yourself.

The big thing to note is that quality costumes take time to make and require quality materials, which are expensive. There are benefits to taking the extra steps to ensure quality, but that also means the cost is far higher. On top of that, a talented costume maker can only turn out so many costumes in a certain amount of time. A crappier taiwanese sweatshop costume maker can probably turn out passable costumes in less time, but they are more likely to be poorly made and inaccurate. I've seen cheapo costumes rip to pieces just from wearing them around normally.. so.. there's that.

It's that old adage "Fast, Cheap, Good. Pick two."

>>18702405
larpers have their own district, although I tend to believe that they are the smallest on population.

DnD and naruto would be both fuckhuge if we count 3.5, 4e end soon 5e into DnD and not as separate things.
large group would be something... I don't know... Maybe something like a new popular anime fandom or an older popular one, like Madoka and Sailor Moon. But this is just a wild guess.
for medium group your gess MLP could be right, because while there are clearly nearly as much people watch it as for example Naruto, but fewer people would be admit that they are MLP fans
about small gorups, I think that STALKER wouldn't be a small one, it would be at least medium. A would think that some of the video games could be in the small group, for example Mass Effect. Because lot of people like it and everything but something is missing for people really cosplaying that, maybe DF would be in this category too.
The cult size... mostly obscure and mostly unkonw things, or just something that not really good or hard to cosplay it and/or really be a hardcore fan of it. I think Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy would be a good example (well before the movie at least) because people like it but it takes a special kind of people to be a really hardcore fan about it and dress as something from the book.

>>18702405
I understand what you're tring to do, but there is an issue with categorizing fandoms. Mainly, that fandoms consist of people with multiple interests in other things. With so much overlap it's really quite hard to think of them as singular entities with a quantifiable amount of members or followers..

Even if you asked a person to narrow themselves down to one specific category out of the 5 districts, you might still end up with ties, or generic answers like "Action Anime" or "Roleplaying"

>>18703101
Big Three Shonen Jump series should be lumped together.

Or something to that extent. Because the casualness and low powerlevels of those fandoms is of a distinctly different flavor.

>>18695028
Commissar's Cap guy here.

As an aside, I have been thinking about this since the thread began, and REALLY want to open that bar. Glad the thread still lives.

As for treatment in non area appropriate costumes, I figure while I wouldn't kick out clientele, 40k would be obviously favoured. Guardsmen would get a discount, cheap shots during Emperor's Devotional Hour, and Sororitas Saturdays. Likely other businesses would do similar.

>>18703378
and Ogrin bouncers... although it would be hard to make proper costumes for them... so maybe ork bouncers?

Good threads deserve bumps.

Am I the only one here just enjoying the cute girls?

I'd probably live near, but not in, the Eastern District, since I tend to like that stuff but not other people who like that stuff, if you catch my meaning.

Preferably, I'd like to get a job teaching something or other while publishing serial fiction on the side. I would assume a city built specifically to cater to creative media would have a market for weekly stories and ongoing novels and such.

Aside from that, live modestly and get to know people better. Probably doesn't sound to FANTASTICAL for such a city, but it'd make me happy.

Anyone else get the feeling we should make a couple of encounter tables?

I'll live in Eastern Media and Anime; I'll run a brothel called 'Interactive Fantasy Club'. My stable of 8-12 prostitues are all cosplayers with a respectable breadth of skill and 'characters' they are able to portray from popular nerd-dom (game characters, anime, etc). They're about 75/25 female/male (with half the males being traps). So long as they are convincing in their costumes, roles and know what they are doing in bed, I'll have them working for me. Looks are fourth behind these things, in the stated order.

I have a feeling such a thing would exist in this city, providing it was legal (or even if it wasn't, but if it isn't, I don't want to be in that business... organized crime is no-joke dangerous when run by nerds considering they all want to be like Aria T'Loak, Balalaika, Vicious, a Hive Gang, etc).

We'd be set up on a side street and the building would be the size of large bed and breakfast, but the rooms could be interchangable between popular settings and archtypes given one hour's notice. Special requests cost extra, obviously, and are based on if the entertainer is willing to meet it. My girls and boys are my top priority; they come before my customers do. Protection is non-negotiable.

Basically, a cosplay brothel / image club. The girls (and 2-3 boys, 1-2 of which are traps) are not the most attractive cosplayers (though still decent looking, maybe even good looking), but they have professional costumes and play their roles very convincingly, both in conversation and on their backs (or however you like them).

I would leverage my writing and technical skills to do production work for the many vidya gaem houses that would no doubt rise up in the city, earning my keep off the social incompatibility of the neckbeards that actually had raw talent but could not combine it with that of their fellows without assistance. Because some days, that is my fucking superpower.

Any district would be a place for my wanderings, but I would probably end up spending less time on the Eastern Media side.

As for Victorian/Edwardian shit, I'd probably take my money, buy a bit of space in the Main Convention Center, and open something akin to pic related minus the Penny Arcade guys and their slowly worsening sense of humor.

>>18709083
Probably call it something different than Olympus. Possibly Valhalla if I wanted to attract Techno Vikings, but more likely something with a neo-Victorian sound to it.

Best LAN parties ever, though.

>>18708911
Seems there would be a booming sex industry throughout the city with so many of you guys setting up places like that..

Which raises the question of if it should be legal or not? I've known many conventions which tried to be "family friendly" only to end up with a 14 year old getting alcohol poisoning or one of the presenters doing something vulgar up on stage or any of those countless stories about a 20-something sleeping with a minor..

>>18709156
It's a city as much as it's a con.

Solution: RED LIGHT DISTRICT.

>>18709156
Legal, but well regulated seems to be the best bet to keep things running smoothly.
Of course, even that won't stop any those things you've mentioned. The Vegas comparison is apt here again.
"What happens in Infinicon, STAYS in Infinicon."

>>18709156

You might as well make it legal, as it'll happen no matter what. World's Oldest Profession and whatnot.

The main concern when legalizing it to set clear boundaries, offer substantial benefits to sex workers (especially health care and contraceptives, because no one wants an STD outbreak), and tax it properly.

You get a much happier and less abusive industry if the workers are treated as people with lives and thoughts, and any potential physical or financial abuse is dealt with swiftly.

>>18709156
That... will always happen. You put enough nerds in a confined space with barely dressed geeky teenage girls...

Unless the security/police have Elder Scrolls style telepathy.

>>18709207
also if it's legal you can tax it

>>18709207
Whore houses with HR departments it is, then.
Less seedy, but that does also keep the possibility for forced prostitution around. That whole "waifu slave trade" idea from previous threads.

Also, additional revenue for the city with sex workers having to pay for their permits and keeping up to date with regular check ups and physicals to avoid any STDs spreading.

>>18709240
Public morals always come before practicality as far as governments are concerned.

>Which raises the question of if it should be legal or not?
The countries which have legal prostitution IRL: All of europe.
The countries that do not have legal prostuiton: USA, with exception of Nevada IIRC.

The rest is merely providing prostitutes so it doesn't count. Either way, democratcy demands it be legal, one idiot must not stand in the way of progress.

>>18670869
/tg/ - Neckbeard Somalia

>>18711592
Democracy in the US doesn't demand that it be legal. Democracy in the US demands it be criminalized.

This is why you need constitutional freedoms that a prudish majority can't vote away.

>>18711828
No, no, I meant democracy taken as a global idea. Like...each european country is 1 vote, each north american country is 1 vote, each african continent is 1 vote...

>>18711844
The same thing happens, but worse. Good countries are outnumbered by bad, and that's bad enough as it is, without the UN having more power.

>>18711592
>>18711828
>This is why you need constitutional freedoms that a prudish majority can't vote away.

*Sigh*

First and foremost, prostitution is a public health nightmare. You're giving one group of people a chance to engage in socially unrestricted sex with people they will never see again (the sort of people who have to pay for it because they have an STD that hinders their ability to get free sex), and giving another group of people to an economic incentive to lie about any STDs they picked up from the first people. This is why girls working in legal brothels around the world are either 1) so tightly supervised that they are essentially very well-paid prisoners, or 2) actually not that legal, because their bosses try to skirt regulations.

There are moral concerns as well, but prudishness is not first among them. First among them is the concern for how you fit work that is highly demeaning and highly invasive into a social structure that' supposed to champion human dignity. For example, if you're unemployed, should you have to accept brothel work or risk losing your unemployment insurance? (This question came up in Germany in 2004, and was sensationalized in later articles: no girls ever had to make this choice, and policy now clearly states they never will). Alternatively, if you have insufficient means of support, should prostitution be forced on the poor as the last viable means of labor? The underemployed turning to prostitution is already a major problem in many cities. It's akin to giving people the option of selling organs for cash. The rich will never do it. The poor probably will be forced to in some cases. And in accepting the possibility, we tacitly agree that it's ethical to allow it.

>>18714939
(cont.)
Then there's the shadowy underbelly of organized crime. Most argue that organized crime is forced out of business by legitimate competition, and that we would solve a lot of ills by legalizing prostitution, drugs, gambling, and so on. Prohibition and gambling come up a lot in these discussion. What rarely comes up? Strip clubs, which is already legal, where the workers are already frequently abused, and which have a tendency to be used for money laundering more than most businesses. Prostitution has the potential to be worse, because prostitution already drags in the underaged, girls enslaved to a pimp, or women literally enslaved as part of a human trafficking ring. Legitimize prostitution doesn't make that go away, it just makes some cases less profitable, and other cases harder to pin down. Immigration, child protective services, cops and social workers have to pick up the slack because someone somewhere decided that prostitution is theoretically A-Okay once regulated.

Finally, yes, there is a prevailing notion that sex should be reserved as something private and intimate, not sold openly. But that is far from the ONLY concern.

Public health. Dignity of the poor. Tendency to encourage or support other crimes. These are the factors that most concern policy makers, even when reservation of intimacy isn't considered an issue.

>>18714939
>prostitution is a public health nightmare
No it isn't, prostitutes in Australia (where prostitution is legal) have the fewest STDs of any profession. Prostitution happens anyway, as America clearly shows. Legalizing it encourages prostitutes and clients to take care to avoid STDs and saves police money.

>You're giving one group of people a chance to engage in socially unrestricted sex with people they will never see again
People have the chance to have one-night stands anyway. If you think certain people shouldn't, come out and call for licenses before people are allowed to have sex. This is what you're calling for, just in a devious manner than harms many more people than the targets.

>so tightly supervised that they are essentially very well-paid prisoners
In legal jobs people aren't prisoners.

>concern for how you fit work that is highly demeaning and highly invasive into a social structure that' supposed to champion human dignity.
It is demeaning to dictate for other people what they should find demeaning, and immoral to dictate what they should or should not do. The defining feature of the free world is the freedom to decide for yourself what you wish to do. Making other people comply with your ideas of modesty and moral decency is the defining feature of every authoritarian regime in history.

>if you're unemployed, should you have to accept brothel work or risk losing your unemployment insurance?
If you don't think so, laws for welfare benefits can ignore prostitution as if it was illegal/didn't exist and can carry on as they work now.

>The poor probably will be forced to in some cases.
Legalizing something doesn't force people to do it. It only creates options for them that either wouldn't have existed or would have put them at risk of arrest before.

>>18715732 cont.
>>18714939
>Strip clubs, which is already legal, where the workers are already frequently abused
Then why do so many people enjoy working in them? Because they have decided, for themselves, that it's worth whatever citation-less abuse they receive.

>which have a tendency to be used for money laundering more than most businesses
Thanks to their illicit nature. Make them more mainstream, not closer to criminal, to stop that.

>>18714969
>Most argue that organized crime is forced out of business by legitimate competition
Nice way of making it sound like agreement that you are wrong is merely a common mistake that "most argue".

>it just makes some cases less profitable, and other cases harder to pin down
How does creating an easy legal alternative and making it easy to report cases of abuse without incriminating yourself in the crime of prostitution make actually immoral practices in prostitution harder to stop?

>Immigration, child protective services, cops and social workers have to pick up the slack
No they don't; they get a job that's much easier because there's less demand for illegal prostitution and they can be more certain that illegal ones do have immoral activities in.

>>18715747 cont.
>>18714969
>there is a prevailing notion that sex should be reserved as something private and intimate
That is something people should make as a personal decision, and not force on others.

>Public health. Dignity of the poor. Tendency to encourage or support other crimes.
Legalizing increases public health, recognizes people deserve the dignity to choose their own jobs, and encourages businesses not involved in crime.

>These are the factors that most concern policy makers
Policy makers outlaw prostitution because the public object to it. Everything else is pretext. What's worse, usually pretext applied unfairly to one profession and ignored for all others, and frequently just plain untrue.

>>18715732
>>18715747
>>18715773
Free internets to you, sir.

>>18714939
>>18714969
>>18715732
>>18715747
>>18715773
Wow...

>>18715920
You stole my reaction...

>>18715920
>>18716048
Thank you gentlemen. *bows*

>see thread
>think it's cool, and would maybe like to live there
>realize I'd be kinda doing the same shit I do now, but probably worse
>argh

>>18716223
The positive draw, however, is being surrounded by thousands of other people who share your interests. Neighbors who might actually want to watch anime with you. FLGS that are in walking distance with more players and available games than you could possibly handle. A bustling community of competitive and friendly play for ever possible game. That sort of shit.

Even working a shitty retail job has the dubious benefit of having customers that are more understanding or at least more interesting.

Not trying to imply that us gutsy young folk could totally run the world better, or anything silly and short sighted like that, but a city with a much lower average age, like Infinity city would have, would act and function much differently from any typical city anywhere else.. For better or worse.

>>18669582
Infinity City, I guess it's not bad, it's about as good as when I lived in Eureka, but with a lot less hippies. People are just as dumb though, they get here thinking that they were going to be a professional Starcraft gamer or figurine painter then they get here and just get blown away by the quality of the talent here. Luckily, I guess, I never thought I was good any much of anything, I lust kind of drifted in one day and liked it.

Me? I'm just a shipping and receiving clerk, and delivery clerk for Amerika-San Patriotic Truck Parts, over near the edge of the Industrial District on East Main. It's not a bad company, run by a old Shadowrun burnout who took one too many trips into the Underdark, ya know...keeps caling all our customers Mr. Johnson [thank god I don't do the filing]. We stay in business importing pieces to some of the smaller fanbases. Lots of restoration truck parts, chrome and led's for the guys with the dekotora delivery trucks over in the Eastern section, Freightliner pieces for some of the Twisted Metal fans in Western, and stuff for some of the more selective Mechaheads I don't even want to know about. Last I heard they were trying to build a real Optimus Prime.

>>18716544
>but a city with a much lower average age, like Infinity city would have

That makes me think about the time when the citizens of infinicon start to became old. after all the ones who settle down in the City will probably remain there until they die. Maybe some of them will play "wise old sage" or something

>>18716611
Off work? I live in Western, down in Little Nevada. I share a kitchen with three other people, a blackjack dealer and a cocktail waitress at the New Montecito down the street, and some guy who just calls himself Courier, but works somewhere as a bouncer. Weekends, I play in the Eyeshield 21 Football League, I play at defensive end for our neighborhood team, the Little Nevada Wolfpack, or just relax with a couple of beers and read a book or play some vidya.

As for women, no I don't have a girlfriend right now. It's hard to get one what with the disparity the way it is. You've got to have quite a bit of confidence to try to pull it off, because some of the attitudes the women around here get is just amazing. Id have one too if I got as many ridiculous proposals as they get, but I still don't like it. I go over to Eastern once a month, though to get the pipes cleaned. You have to know what you're getting into, but you can find a decent “massage” over there for not too much money. I'm not going to mention my favorite place, and have all of you go over there and ruin it, but there's one with a redhead that cosplays the hell out of Rangiku Matsumoto. She's probably about 15 pounds too heave to really pull it off, but her tits are amazing.

>>18716660
>a redhead that cosplays the hell out of Rangiku Matsumoto. She's probably about 15 pounds too heave to really pull it off, but her tits are amazing.

>>18716660
I wonder how much money you would make giving "massages".

>>18694973 here

"Welcome to Sanctuary. Tonight is Vampire night, so if you want to be a background NPC, take and wear this token. Despite what the players say, Bloodplay is strictly prohibited here. Also, this place is considered an Elysium, so if you have beef with someone, check it at the door along with your longcoat and fake swords. The GMs have said that there isn't any more room for PCs, but if you want to be considered for a future game, fill out a character sheet and submit it to a GM.

If you want to try something new, the third saturday of every month is Sampler Saturday, where we play the first episodes of various shows and the bartenders try out new drinks on customers. Be warned that like the music, the DJ likes to throw in a show that throws everyone.

We have a few off-duty security officers drinking here, so don't do anything that would cause them to go back on duty.

Have fun and don't lose your soul into the night!"

bump

Unfortunately, I've got work in about 20 minutes, so I won't really be able to keep an eye on the thread for the next 8 hours or so..

Sexy lady duty and general question answering will be left up to my good friend the Hungarian LARPfag

Do we have to have this thread every day?

>>18723339
no, it's the same thread actually

bamp

>>18723339
>>18723360
Seems we are just very good at keep threads around for too damn long, huh?

It's a blessing and a curse.