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    16 KB Planetary Governor Quest: Part Five TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/31/12(Sat)23:01 No.18532118  
    >Previous Threads:
    >>http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Planetary+Governor

    You are former Imperial Navy captain Elyssa von Braun, the newly appointed Planetary Governor of the planet Daysimir following the previous corrupt, incompetent, and, as it turned out, Tau-Sympathizing Governor Rodoris Caliphate the Sixths removal from office for failure to pay the Imperial Tithes.


    The world itself is somewhat larger than Terra and has gravity roughly 10% higher, along being notably richer in mineral resources, it also has deposits of several useful substances not found on Ancient Terra. It's population of 3 billion 32 million souls (The old Governor was fastidious about keeping up population census, if nothing else of practical value) is spread more or less evenly across the single inhabitable mega-continent of Daysimir, stretching from pole to pole and containing a wide variety of environments. The planet is dotted with smaller island chains and landmasses, but due to harsh climates they are populated only by research and weather-observation outposts, along with the occasional goat herd that remains only because they have no means of leaving. Recently you have begun building military bases on these islands to provide your PDF and Guard with harsh-environment training.


    Aside from divergent continents the planet is practically the twin of Ancient Terra, having been terraformed and seeded with Terran life forms during the Dark Age of Technology, the planet has both a massive moon similar to Luna and a range of trace minerals nearly identical to Old Earth, meaning that the population of Daysimir, unlike most other planets in the Imperium, does not require regular supplementary pills to make up for trace minerals that the planet is deficient in.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/12(Sat)23:05 No.18532148
    Once we finish up with our troubles we need to work on raising our population.

    We are increasing our infrastructure massively in most areas so we could support population growth quite well
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/31/12(Sat)23:06 No.18532155
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    The people of Daysimir are a hardy, independent, and freedom-loving folk, heavily armed and used to telling authority figures to go to Hell when their interference becomes annoying. Many of them are veterans of the conquest of the planet by the Tau Empire, and the following guerrilla war to free it. Resistance forces eventually won with the help of Eldar strike-teams from Exodite worlds in the sector and a nearby Craftworld. After 12 years of bloody guerrilla warfare beside their Eldar allies, along with the occasional Gue’Vesa or Kroot Turncloaks, the people of Daysimir shed the Imperial propaganda that the Ecclesiarchy had managed to hammer into the population after Imperial forces shut down their trade with nearby Xenos Empires. Since the end of the war the neither the Ecclesiarchy or anti-Xenos propaganda have been welcome on Daysimir, and clandestine trade with old Eldar allies continues in the wilderness to this day, far from prying eyes.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/31/12(Sat)23:11 No.18532191
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    It was because of this bloody-minded independence, martial spirit, and near-total disregard for the ancient Laws of the Imperium that Governor Rodoris was blocked from tyrannizing his people, by fear of a planet-wide rebellion, and was thus limited to squandering tax money on a lavish palace and personal pleasures instead of holding his populace in an iron grip as he had intended. The Governor was eventually removed from power when he began cracking down on the ancient civil rights of the planets citizens. Imperial authorities in the sector feared that a successful rebellion (As the PDF had atrophied from constant embezzling of funds for several decades) would encourage unrest across dozens of worlds and removed him from office.

    The planet is also unusual in that most positions normally held by Techpriests are instead occupied by civilian engineers and technicians, leaving the Techpriests in control of only the most complex and advanced pieces of machinery and greatly reducing the amount of influence the AdMech holds over the planetary government.

    The population of Daysimir boasts both a very low rate of mutation and almost twice the number of Geneseed-Compatible citizens, making it a popular recruiting world for fleet-based Astartes Chapters in the past, and was also one of the main factors in the decision of the Iron Dragons Chapter to settle on your planet as their Homeworld.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/31/12(Sat)23:16 No.18532226
    The planet is also home to several million Ogryns living in tribal groups on the northern reaches of your world, which has had the effect of making your people far more tolerant of Abhumans and even more mistrustful of the Ecclesiarchy. Until the Tau occupation and Rodoris the Sixth’s disastrous appointment to Governor, it was customary for the Regiments Ogryn attachment to simply be recruited from their homeworld.

    The Nobilis Proscriptae Sector is located on the farthest reaches of the Eastern Fringe, being far enough away from both the Tau Empire and Ultramarine space to keep interference by both parties to a minimum. In the immediate sub-sector (Called Kri by the local merchants) there are three Civilized worlds, eight Frontier worlds (Backwater Civilized worlds with little to no Imperial presence, often ignore Imperial laws concerning trade with Xenos, although this is true of most of the sector) one Feudal world, and a Death World that is the proud home of the fiercest and most highly decorated Regiment in the sector.

    In the sector at large is more of the same, a mix of Frontier and Civilized worlds with a peppering of feudal and feral worlds. In the capitol system of the sector there is one Hive World (Magnoris, the Sector Capitol) one Forge World, two civilized worlds, one Agri-world, and a very lucrative asteroid belt mining colony.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/31/12(Sat)23:20 No.18532243
    Of the Xenos presence in the sector, there are four major Empires: The Xin'Tar Warrior Hives to the "Southern” edge of the sector, the Kraan Hegemony to the North, The Jarki stars to the center of the sector, and an unknown reptilian race run by a "Cabal" in the East (And that's right near you!). There are also five Eldar Exodite Worlds, three Ork worlds (which are a constant pain in the ass) and one Daemon world (Which is a bigger pain in the ass to everyone than everything else in the sector combined). There are also several dozen minor Xenos races whose dominions extend over only one planet.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/31/12(Sat)23:29 No.18532263
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    Currently you are looking over the assorted wares of a visiting RT friend while a Departmento Munitorum representative oversees the distribution of new arms, armor, vehicles and equipment to your PDF, as well as the construction of the Iron Dragons Fortress Monastery on the ice-covered sloped of your largest mountain range.

    Other items of note:

    Your PDF have been incredibly well trained by the Iron Dragons and have undergone rugged mental conditioning, they now rival even the famed Death Korps of Krieg for sheer determination and lack of fear of death.

    The Promethean Creed has taken root on your world, and churches have begun to sprout up everywhere.

    Fortified Chapter Bastions that will serve as a place where the Iron Dragons that dwell among the people away from their Fortress-Monastery on their off time can gather to train and socialize have been completed.

    >CONT
    >> Anonymous 03/31/12(Sat)23:45 No.18532344
    >>18532263
    TheGameroom did some thing happen to your internet?
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/31/12(Sat)23:48 No.18532355
    >>18532263

    Your PDF has grown in size from 300,000 to 8 million, armored vehicles are in short supply simply due to the massive increase in PDF numbers, even after old armories were opened.

    You have begun local production of the Chimera APC and Ragnarok MBT (A Leman Russ alternative developed during the Krieg War, designed to be as simple to construct as possible, essentially a Plasteel box on treads with a cannon and Heavy Stubber) to supply your PDF and even export a little on the inter-planetary market. The Ragnaroks have taken the place of Leman Russ tanks in much of your PDF due to sheer shortage of the latter. The Departmento Munitorum is correcting this, however.

    Former Resistance leader Davos Ithkael has started a Planetary Militia, training troops up to the standards of modern day U.S. Marine Marksmen and arming them with Flak Armor, lasguns, Heavy Stubbers, Autocannons, and Ragnarok Tanks. It is unclear whether he has built up this force to fight off future invaders, you, or both.

    Your PDF has been armed with an improved mark of lasgun that packs more punch at the expense of using more ammunition, has longer range, is even more durable than the standard, and comes with an advanced targeting system that replaces the standard IG iron sights, although they are still included in case the targeting scope fails or is destroyed.

    >CONT
    >> Anonymous 03/31/12(Sat)23:52 No.18532374
    It might be more efficient to post the initial information via pastebin.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/31/12(Sat)23:56 No.18532395
    The Iron Dragons have discovered one of the original Dark Age settlements on the mountainside of your greatest mountain range, a factory hidden from scouring winds in the skull of a huge fossilized Dragon-like creature buried in the mountain. The Iron Dragons have taken the discovery of a Dark Age forge located INSIDE an ancient Drake on the side of a mineral-rich mountain as an obvious sign, and are constructing their Fortress-Monastery there, incorporating the super-strong fossilized bones into their Monastery as its foundation and support structure.


    The Iron Dragons have been delighted to discover within he ancient manufactorum several Dark Age Fabricators that produce 300% more than the ones they possess, still in working condition, and the STC printout to construct some kind of automated mining and mineral refinement facility.

    Centauran wheat has replaced all previous varieties as both a staple and long-term storage food.

    The Herbs you purchased, medicinal, edible, and recreational, have become popular garden plants planet-wide and are becoming a minor export item..

    Sarian Bell Flowers have become a great source of profit for wealthy business ventures specializing in rare plants, they grow well in the native soil, although they require climate-controlled greenhouses to thrive, and already they are becoming a profitable export. Many advanced Pharmaceuticals have been derived from the plant.

    Infrastructure Repair is complete.

    Orbital Defense Repair is 70% complete (Sped up thanks to Iron Dragons Techmarines)

    Orbital Docking station Amir is repaired and functional, an increase in inter-planetary trade has already been noticed.

    Dozens of defunct Orbital Defense Platforms have been towed back into orbit for later repair.

    >CONT
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)00:00 No.18532426
    >>18532395
    >several Dark Age Fabricators that produce 300% more than the ones they possess, still in working condition, and the STC printout to construct some kind of automated mining and mineral refinement facility

    ...The AdMech sure would be interested in this.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/01/12(Sun)00:00 No.18532427
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    >>18532118
    Finally some Planetary Governor Quest, I've been looking forward to this.

    Between the various herbs and flowers we bought from the Rouge Trader, we should have an abudant supply of natural medicines, we should start a pharmecutical company specializing in medicines to sell, with the large amount of casualties the IG sustaines, medicines should be in perpetual demand.

    See into the feasbiltiy of constructing an art school, with a large amount of artisans not only can we make a profit of the art pieces, but we could also use them to help build are budding tourism industry.

    For education, see about a policy for allowing free higher education, with the condition that any takers have to work for a number of years equal to their education.

    You said our biggest industry is mining, correct? Exactly what are we mining? Low value ores? High Quality gems? Anything Rare? Look into establishing refieries, valuable metals and gems can be used to create jewlery and artwork, less common metals can be used for industrial production.

    We've got a lot of unused land, let's use some of it for cattle rancing, we can then sell authentic beef, just like Holy Terra used to make!

    Fishing; Sure we can sell the fish via commerical fishing, but Tourism fishing can make tonnes of revenue for a fraction of the catch.

    Forestry can produce lumber used for high grade luxury items, we can sell woodworks to industrial worlds and places where trees don't grow anymore for huge profit.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)00:01 No.18532435
    >>18532263
    >>18532355
    >>18532395
    My we have done quite a lot already, and we are not even close to done.

    This might just be a pipe dream but I want to lead a crusade to exterminate the daemon world.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)00:02 No.18532437
    >>18532426
    We haven't had much to do with them.
    The ID handle things like that for us currently
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/01/12(Sun)00:04 No.18532453
    >>18532426
    We should inform the AdMech, while we're waiting for the higher ups to get here, we should have our Enginseers and Techpriests as well as the Iron Dragon's Techmarines study it, ostensibly to help them with the reaseach, privately to see if we can make replicas if/when they take it.

    (Naturally we don't tell anyone that part.)
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)00:06 No.18532465
    >>18532437
    If the AdMech get wind of it and they think we were concealing it, it'd land us in hot water with them, it might test the loyalties of the techpriests who work on it.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)00:08 No.18532479
    >>18532465
    We don't actually have many tech priests.
    The majority of our work is handled by engineers
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/01/12(Sun)00:10 No.18532483
    >>18532374

    >I'm writing up most of this as I go because I forgot to get it ready beforehand, first 4-5 posts were already written up, hence why they were posted so fast.

    >>18532395

    Many of the Iron Dragons not on active duty have begun to lead normal lives among the people of your planet, the population has come to trust them more than they trust you. One Brother-Sargent has started a pizza delivery business in your Capitol.

    The civilians that came with the Iron Dragons, mostly the families of recruits that were offered to come with their Aspirant sons and work as crewmen on the Chapter fleet (One of the reasons why the Dragons empathize so much with normal humans), have settled on the planets surface, most in the harsh icy regions near the Fortress Monastery, the rest as near the Chapter Bastions as they could.

    The Iron Dragons have inquired if you could send them the blueprints you possess and a few vehicles of every type your PDF has, as they are willing to reverse-engineer them both so you can begin local production and integrate useful features into their own armament.

    Your scribes have found no items of heretical nature among the old books, tomes, and fragments of text purchased from the Rogue Trader.

    One of your scribes believes he has identified the location of the star system etched onto the Xenos Helm you purchased earlier, somewhere in the neighboring Sector...

    You are currently looking over the wares, artifacts, and mercenaries offered for sale or hire by your visiting RT friend, complete list to come.
    (CONT, RT Merchandise incoming.)
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)00:10 No.18532489
    >>18532427
    Good thoughts but we also want to keep in mind how much the environment can take before it's shuts down on us. I think it would be a good Idea to set up an angincy to manage it so we don't mess it up (terra like biospheres are rare.)

    Independent of that I think we should start up local shooting clubs in schools and community centers. They would be designed to train our folks in how to use all the hard wear this new militia is getting and how to organize an army. They would also have the added bounce of making talent scouting for the PDF and guard easier.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/01/12(Sun)00:11 No.18532494
    >>18532479
    I know, but it only takes one leak to sink a ship, nevertheless we should ensure that any of our people who work on it are loyal to us first, and the cult second.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)00:12 No.18532497
    >>18532465
    >>18532453
    We are largely divorced from both the AdMech and the Ecclesiarchy.

    Our planet was only recently reclaimed from Xenos and the people didn't exactly like mechanicus personnel or ecclesiarchs to begin with so they mostly kept them away
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)00:13 No.18532513
    >>18532489
    Planetary scouts? Sounds good. It also reassures the veterans that we are committed to keeping their people ready for any attempts by outside influences to take over
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)00:14 No.18532521
    >>18532494
    That's true but the point is we are already very far from their power. Also the machinery belongs to the Iron Dragons instead of us so technically we have no say on whether it is passed along or not
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/01/12(Sun)00:19 No.18532556
    >>18532497
    I guess, I'm just paranoid about all those sleeper agents on our world, I don't want to fall into the trap we narrowly avoided with the tithe collector.

    >>18532521
    I'm not exactly sure of the balance of power between the AdMech and Astartes, I'd assume they'd want to comply with them, since they make more than a small amout of their war materials.
    >The Iron Dragons have inquired if you could send them the blueprints you possess and a few vehicles of every type your PDF has, as they are willing to reverse-engineer them both so you can begin local production and integrate useful features into their own armament.

    Do it, but also request that they help intergrate useful features into our own armament. Tit for Tat as it were.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)00:20 No.18532563
    >>18532453
    Right we should send a delegation to the closest forge world with copies of all the new STCs we have found. (ask the IDs about this first)

    >>18532483
    Accept the Iron dragons offer to reverse engineer but ask not to make any changes before we can get a reasonable (I know this will take a while to find) tech priest to sanctify the changes. But make a catalogue of them so we can test them easily.

    Lets start researching to tomes

    And build our university, and give our RT friends goods a pass (we already got so much)
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)00:22 No.18532578
    >>18532556
    Paranoid is good.
    We do need to be careful about stepping on the toes of our immediate allies is all I am thinking of

    We do need to see about increasing our population, the resistance and occupation would of cost our planet dearly and we are expanding our industry in all sectors
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)00:26 No.18532612
    The AdMech might not like us, but they will be our best goddamn friends if we turn over the STC designs.

    Seriously. Random nobodies get whole planets for discovering them. This is not a small event. We send a copy to Mars, and all the bad blood (on their end at least) goes away forever.

    We could bring a few techpriests to produce BONE implants for the Ogryns locally, instead of having them shipped in.

    Until then, we produce that automated mining facility and seed the moon with them. It'll give us all kinds of goodies as well as develop the moon for infrastructure.

    Yes on sending the Dragons some vehicles. Being best buds with our local Space Marine chapter is a very high priority, and they offer significant bonuses.

    To boost popular support (and I think someone else mentioned this) we could set up a series of target ranges for civilians to practice at, and maybe even earn some kind of firearms excellence award or some shit. The militia folks are like the NRA: All we have to do is be nice and they'll like us for it.

    >crusade against a daemon world

    I think that once a world has been taken by the Warp, it can never be brought back. Timehax, Unlimited Daemon Works, etc.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)00:27 No.18532617
    Rock on, OP. Just got in here, reading backscroll.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)00:27 No.18532623
    >>18532563
    I think ID techmarines double as techpriests for most things. Any changes they make will be sanctioned I'm sure.

    Especially once we give AdMech a copy of that STC. They'll sanction xenos-derived weaponry if we do that.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/01/12(Sun)00:28 No.18532628
    >>18532578
    Lets offer some tax deductables to households with children.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)00:32 No.18532662
    >>18532483
    >RT wares

    Buy the statue of MALCADOR THE SIGILITE at all costs.

    He is a figure that could inspire the populace greatly, and the statue would be well placed in the receiving room used by the administratum on-world to meet foreign dignitaries.

    The statue's value in making you look more normal ti visitors will be HUGE, considering the accusation from the Ultramarines of you being a fucking heretic.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/01/12(Sun)00:32 No.18532663
    >>18532426
    >>18532427
    >>18532437
    >>18532453
    >>18532465

    The Iron Dragons have claimed the Dark Age Fabricators as their property, the AdMech have been notified of the STC printout discovery, but the Chapter will be more than willing to supply you with a copy.

    Almost all of the local pharmaceutical companies have begun developing and selling drugs derived from the Sarian Bell Flower. Start a Government competitor?

    Build an Art School (10 C) or integrate into University (30 C) for an extra 5 C?

    You begin putting this education policy into effect, staff are searching for ways to implement this and jobs the graduates could do.

    Your planet has a mineral composition roughly the same as Old Earth, but richer in useful and valuable metals, and exports a little of everything. You also have deposits of Admantium and rare light metals used in the most advanced electronics the Imperium possesses.

    Much of your population already makes a living as ranchers of both Grox and cattle descended from ancient Terran stock (Sold to nobles sector-wide as a specialty item). Start a Government competitor?

    Fishing is how many coastal and riverside towns make their living. You have your staff look into tourism fishing as a diversion for wealthy nobles gambling their fortunes away in your Capitol. Start a Government industrial fishing business?

    Lumber is already an export item to exactly those worlds, with the increase in inter-planetary trade the industry is growing fast. Start Government competitor?

    >>18532435

    You have a feeling that the Iron Dragons share this particular long-term goal.

    (CONT in a moment)
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)00:35 No.18532686
    >>18532663
    >University/art school

    Let's bond it to whatever extent we can.

    Sixty currency units is a lot for the university and military academy, but if we let businesses invest in it like we did the farmers and seeds, they get a few things back: they can have some input on civic curriculum such that if they want a mechanical engineering program expanded they can push us to do so, and those businesses that bonded the university into existence can have benefits in terms of the contracts for the construction of university itself and for any manufacturing contracts that educated technicians the university produces will be needed to complete.

    So maybe they can help put up money.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)00:38 No.18532710
    >>18532663
    Start a few minor competitors under less obvious government control

    I think a separate art school would be good, it would be ostensibly outside our control so people would be comfortable with it rather than in our university
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)00:39 No.18532719
    >>18532686
    Having them buy in means we can offer per screening of graduates to companies so they can get the pick of the best.

    This is good
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)00:41 No.18532722
    >>18532453
    Don't fucking tell the AdMech what we have, the locals all hate them and they're just going to try to send people to study/confiscate it and stir up trouble. Bad enough that we have the Promethean Cult on-world anyhow. We've already had inklings of trouble between the locals and the AdMech.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)00:42 No.18532734
    >>18532722
    We will send them details of it but refuse them rights to tamper with it on the dual reasons of it belonging to the ID and we don't want to risk disturbing such valuable equipment
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/01/12(Sun)00:44 No.18532750
    >>18532489
    >>18532556

    You start an agency to monitor rising pollution levels and slow or even stop them if they can.

    Shooting ranges and training centers are being integrated into schools and public areas, your popularity has increased.

    The Chapter could keep the Fabricators and Printouts if they wanted (Unless the Mechanicum REALLY wanted that printout/Archaneotech, in which case they would tell the Marines to either hand it over or have fun with dozens of Titan and Skitarii Legions.) but have always maintained good relations with the AdMech and are giving it to them, keeping several copies for themselves of course. They will keep the Fabricators for use by their Chapter.

    The Sleeper Agents were apparently placed to monitor you in your first few months in power by the Munitorum rep and are leaving your command structure as you stand, the degree to which you were infiltrated is truly terrifying.

    You are wondering where an up-jumped inspector and Tax Collector got the skill and capability to place sleeper agents in your administration, considering the Inspectors cryptic comments regarding the future of the Sector and the small army of Stormtroopers he brought with him, you are beginning to think that he is more than a Munitorum rep, and even wondering if he is a part of the Departmento at all..

    (CONT)

    The Dragons agree.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)00:44 No.18532753
    >>18532663
    No, no government COMPETITION. These businesses are run by a clean version of the mafia, are you frucking crazy?

    Instead, create the beginnings of a plan for higher-level PROCESSING. WQe already make timber? Sort out some government-run artisan macro-craftworks or something to further process the goods we're exporting. We already have craftsmen? We find something further down the line. Fisheries produce delicacies? We create a huge chain of delicatessians and resturants in our las vegas like touristy capital. Pharmaceutical production is up? We make a company that pairs appropriate ones together and creates first-aid kits for the PDF and guard, or whatever else.

    No direct competition with our market, but we can have government industries that dovetail with the market or sit in niches.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/01/12(Sun)00:45 No.18532759
    Here's an idea, when we get the Uni/Art School/Military Academy up and running, we can sell attendent slots to offworlders (at a large markup of course, as they're not native citizens.) Not only can this make us some money, but the children of nobles who study here might be sutibaly impressed with the planet and could increase tourism.

    Ideally I'd want to start goverment to start up nationally run businesses across all sectors, but for the moment we should try starting a nationally run pharmicutical company, stating the need to help the quality of our healthcare.

    Graduates from the art academy could be put to use creating artwork used to help improve the planet's attractiveness as well as sold to offworld collectors, we could divert some resources from our mining and lumber for little to no noticble impact as it'd require less resources than exporting resource in bulk.

    If we combine the Miltiary Academy/Art College/University together they should be more efficent sharing resources than apart.

    Naturally the Military Academy should have some off campus areas for training and the like.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)00:45 No.18532762
    Let's not start government competition with any current industries. They're probably still sore over Rodoris being an asshole.

    The fishing industry seems like a good place to make money considering there's no civilian business. And we'd be able to regulate it to prevent overfishing.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)00:46 No.18532770
    >>18532753
    This is a much better plan than mine
    Switching from >>18532710
    >> Editor 04/01/12(Sun)00:47 No.18532778
    Some thoughts:

    1) Resistance: weapons and benefits

    We need to finalize a deal with these people. I'm thinking something like this:

    -We don't register or confiscate weapons, but we do get them to submit a weapons inspection and we number the types and so on so we know that there's x many thousand pulse rifles out there in the northern plateau. We convince them to do this by:
    -Giving them a carrot to the tune of several generations of lower tithes, tuitions, and conscription on their families so they can grow and prosper, but also cheaper officer's commissions so they're motivated to enlist.

    If we give them generational rights like Vostroyan Firstborn to any weapons they have and replace the xeno weapons with good quality imperial manufacture weapons, they can keep on with their whole thing.
    >> Editor 04/01/12(Sun)00:48 No.18532788
    2) Relations with various imperial powers

    We need friends, preferably on the radical side. Replacing the AdMech with our own guys won't work forever, and one day the ][ WILL knock on our door. If we know a bunch of people in the Imperium and have strong connections in place, we'll be far harder to dislodge or force into a disadvantageous position. As it is, the sector barely knows about us.
    >> Editor 04/01/12(Sun)00:49 No.18532798
    3) Relations with Xenos and renegades in sector

    We have various Xeno mini-empires around us. If we can use indirect connections like our RT friend to trade with them more or less legally ("we can't be held responsible for that Rogue Trader buying up all our surplus wheat and selling it to the xenos, and then selling us the rare metals he got off them for it! Of course we didn't come to a prior arrangement!") and get them in a position where they might be convinced to attack each other or the Daemon world, we would stand a better chance of survival. If we are to do this, we need to understand their wants, needs, military capacities, and so forth. Can't manipulate an entity you don't understand.

    As for the endless pirate mess, if we keep giving the Eldar back their soulstones their corsairs might be convinced we're not a good primary target, and if we focus on capturing pirate ships of Imperial make and refurbishing them rather than bringing about their destruction, we'll soon have able fleets of our own.
    >> Editor 04/01/12(Sun)00:49 No.18532802
    It would be ideal if we could form a stable relationship with Kroot mercenaries. Their unique physiology may make it possible for some radical AdMech biologis types to breed us some superior, intelligent Kroot warriors.

    Scraping together as many Tau renegades as possible would be nice. If they hate Ethereals and the Greater Good, we can secret away a few cadres of them and use them to keep our troops trained in anti-Tau tactics. Or maybe reverse-engineer their technologies and arm a number of our Rogue Trader's troops with it, on the condition that these troops be hired on from among our own populace, treated well, and able to return from service after a few years so that a fresh batch can be sent over...or something. Would be satisfying to answer a Tau expeditionary force landing with a barrage of pulse-rifle fire from massed heavy infantry wielding Tau weapons better than they can manage to themselves.

    The Orks either need to be wiped out or thrown headlong at the daemon world, though. Might make for good food for kroot carnivores looking to bulk up a bit.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/01/12(Sun)00:51 No.18532810
    >>18532753
    You could argue that not all businesses should be privately run, since pharmecuticals directly impacts healthcare, you could argue that it's an essential industry.

    Privately run businesses will produce less revenue than nationally owned ones, private businesses only contribute their taxes to our coffers, while nationally owned businesses contribute pretty much their entire profit.

    >>18532719
    Giving private companies first pick means the government is getting the castoffs, we should be aiming to get the best talent wherever and whenever possible.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)00:55 No.18532847
    >>18532810
    Oh the government naturally gets first pick but I mean for open calls once they graduate.

    See we earmark them before they graduate and ensure they go to us, whatever is left we let the companies screen to pick and choose from our rejects

    >>18532798
    Eldar relations are already quite good, the soul stones just means they will like us personally as well as the people of our planet
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)00:56 No.18532850
    >grabbing the initiative from the private sector

    That's cool, let's just forget about what happened last time there was heavy competition with these people. That huge war with the competition that flooded the capitol's infrastructure and sewers with enough bodies to let the genestealer infestation thrive, forget that.

    We'll just hope that they all understand that more profit for a planetary administration they were ready to violently depose is good for them, THIS time, because they're very reasonable and not at all heavily armed.

    Anon, let's remember what kind of citizens we're dealing with here. We're already fucked in ten different ways and the world is profitable enough, we're raking in the taxes. Let the private sector be.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/01/12(Sun)00:57 No.18532858
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    Here's an idea, we let the private companies run non essential industries, and when a business screws up and goes bankrupt, we buy it out and nationalize it.

    If the private sector complains they can only blame themselves, "We wouldn't've bought out the company if they didn't already run it into the ground."

    Not only does this get our hands on some businesses on the cheap, but it also acts as a deterrent for screwing up.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)00:58 No.18532878
    >>18532847
    >eldar relations good

    We have a pirate problem in sector, and corsairs have been mentioned.

    Eldar relations are fine with the POPULACE, but the administration we're part doesn't have any established relations with them.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)00:59 No.18532883
    >>18532858
    I like this, it opens us up to take control riemce by piece and we do it while acting benevolent. We save people from unemployment and ensure growth in a highly public way
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)01:00 No.18532895
    >>18532858
    We'll try it and see how they take it, but seriously, read >>18532850 a few times. These people were inches from rebelling as a group and fucking HATE the idea of governmental meddling. Don't push your luck.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)01:00 No.18532897
    >>18532878
    Which is the point of the soul stones. We didn't pay for them outright but they will mention we helped acquire them which sets us on a good track. And since the populace has good relations with the eldar they will tell the eldar we are ok and open to deal with them fairly
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/01/12(Sun)01:01 No.18532906
    >>18532850
    There was MASSIVE favouratism and corruption there, leaving everything to run in the hands of the private sector is also a good recipe for having our economy collapse. (Hello subprime mortgage crisis!).

    The genestealers and corpses weren't the cause of goverment run businesses so much as the govoner being a massive fuckup who pretty much did everything short of actively trying to destroy his planet.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)01:02 No.18532919
    >>18532897
    The soul stones were bought by the Resistance fighters, not by us. We have no buyback arrangement for future ones. A one-time deal is just that, the Eldar won't be influenced greatly by it.

    At this point, we have Ultramarines coming our way with accusations of heresy, a hive of tyranids in the middle of our capital, and a shitload of heavily armed resistance fighters that we STILL have no standing arrangement with for after the hive's secure.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/01/12(Sun)01:03 No.18532926
    >>18532563
    >>18532623

    The Iron Dragons say that Astartes Chapters pretty much get a free pass when it comes to technological advances, as long as their Techmarines say it isn't heretek you should be okay.

    The AdMech were already notified by the Iron Dragons and ships are already on their way to retrieve the Printout.

    You have your scribes begin translating and researching the tomes.

    Confirm buy University (20 C) and do not continue looking over RT goods (Are you sure about that?) ? You have 99 C to spend without cutting into project funding.

    >>18532578

    >>18532628

    You implement tax deductions for large families, you aren't sure what measures you could take to encourage population growth beyond that, you have your staff look into it.

    >>18532662

    Buy statue of Malcador the Sigillite for 10 C or look over other RT wares first?

    >CONT (Give me a minute to catch up with the backlog of responses before adding anything new please)
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)01:04 No.18532930
    >>18532919
    I said we didn't pay for them but we facilitated them getting them both by getting the trader to sell and by convincing him to lower his prices.

    It isn't going to be an instant we love you reaction but the populace likes us for it and the eldar will hear that we used our influence to ensure they could get them returned
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)01:05 No.18532944
    >>18532906
    Point being, the expectations and memories are still there and so's the independent spirit. We'll try the buyout, but nationalization/globalization of formerly independent businesses may well be seen as bringing the private sector to heel, and the private sector kills competitors, does not take well to a bridle, and is heavily armed.

    Why we'd bother at all is beyond me considering that HAVING a private sector allows us to bond projects and the taxes we're getting are from the export of rare and luxury goods. The peace is fragile, and greed is unwarranted.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)01:05 No.18532945
    >>18532926
    Look over the wares but get the statue.
    Set it up in a pubic square in front of the palace

    Also see about commissioning a statue to the resistance fighters who gave their lives to liberate their planet
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)01:07 No.18532949
    >>18532926
    >Confirm buy university?

    No, BOND university, military school, and art school if possible as per >>18532686 and >>18532719
    >> Editor 04/01/12(Sun)01:08 No.18532960
    >>18532945
    >public square
    Let's make sure the acid rain won't fuck it up, put it inside somewhere for now.
    >statue of resistance fighters
    Fuckyeah.jpg, secondan
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)01:09 No.18532967
    >>18532944
    Well if we do it and make sure the people are still in control they still benefit but the profits go to the government instead of some rich asshole noble.

    We could even raise pay rates and benefits so that people preferred us being in overall control while we have the various businesses run by a group of senior members of the existing work force
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)01:10 No.18532987
    >>18532960
    Well it is a very big statue IIRC but we can put it under a glass dome or something
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)01:11 No.18532989
    >>18532945
    Also didn't we have some plan about building statues to all the primarchs and the emperor? I liked that plan.

    Lets see the goods but our next orders of business should be space assets and recruiting those Ogryns.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/01/12(Sun)01:12 No.18532999
    >>18532895
    They were pissed off because the government was heavily interfering in their businesses and giving unreasonable advantages to things run by toadies and shit, it IS possible to have nationalised companies run alongside the private sector without actively screwing them over.

    Things the goverment should get their hands on should be infastructure and industries nessicary for the cities to function, IE mass transit, water, power. Also see into starting our own agricorp and/or buying stocks in them.

    One of the aspects of the free market is competition, the government can also be a competitor. Starting one business in an industry isn't siezing control of the industry, it's providing competion.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)01:13 No.18533006
    >>18532989
    Yeah a statue of the Emperor as a leader not a god and statues of each primarch with notable things, rowboat with the codex, Russ with the tactica etc etc
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)01:13 No.18533008
    >>18532967
    >rich asshole noble
    What nobles? We have no or little mention of nobility as such outside the Von Braun clan, which we're part of and which is having a very visible, celebratory, and public clan get-together in the capital quite soon. For all we know, we'll be seen as the richest asshole noble around.

    >they'll still be in control
    Last time we approached the 'clean mafia' that ran the businesses, the 'families' chafed at the thought of any government integration including taking on government positions and so forth. How do you propose we keep them in control when they want minimum government involvement?
    >> Editor 04/01/12(Sun)01:15 No.18533031
    >>18532999
    Let's try it with the provision that we shut it down at the first sign of trouble for now, at least until less problems arise. Should keep everyone happy until we have more elbow room.

    >>18533006
    >>18532989
    That was me, reposting it from my notes in a second.
    >> Editor 04/01/12(Sun)01:17 No.18533045
    >>18533031
    The idea was about how to do something awesome that would take the legs out from under the Ultramarines' claim that we were a bunch of heretics, and it was explained as follows:

    The objections the Ultras have to us are twofold. First, we are allying ourselves with something outside their power structure in the Realm of Ultramar and the group in question (Sallies and successors) happens to be a bit of a political opponent for the Ultras. Second, tyranids and gene-stealers are a major fucking concern for the Ultras for obvious reasons.

    Once you strip away/adjust for the Ward faggotry, the Ultras are very roman. They invest in power, expand their domain, deal harshly with rivals, and try to incorporate everyone else like them (other chapters) into their culture and thus their power structure (accept rowboat as spiritual liege).

    Philosophically, that cultural structure fits into a broader one, however - Rowboat is one loyal primarch of nine, and the primarchs are sons of the emperor.

    What we need to do is create an incredibly obvious symbol of this and confront the Ultras with it, which will make accusations of heresy difficult and requests to favor their primarch less than apt on their part. We need to put them in a position wherein they would look bad politically pushing us either into the Realm of Ultramar or away from other spess marine chapters, without making them hate us for it.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/01/12(Sun)01:17 No.18533048
    >>18532944
    I'm not saying "all of your business are belong to us", I'm saying we start up our own *competing business*.

    Things like Water, Power and Mass transit we should try to keep a tight grip on (Enron blackouts), but for acquiring new companies we should do so by acquiring shares, corporate buyouts and the like, we should try to be *fair* about it, something the previous govoner wasn't.

    TL;DR do this >>18532858 and not going Cuba over everyone.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)01:17 No.18533050
    >>18533008
    Because the companies will all be owned by honest hard working citizens? There is nobility on every planet they will be assholes and they will have substantial holdings in planetary businesses

    And we make it clear, the government owns the business but they run it their success or failure is up to the workers and they will benefit from it.

    It is no different to how it is now but there will be one more player they will have to watch out for. We will get the citizens on our side so that even if they clan mafia tries anything we can string them out and the populace will cheer

    We also will only be buying out businesses that failed under their original ownership we won't be pushing people out of established companies
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/01/12(Sun)01:18 No.18533055
    >>18532686
    >>18532710
    >>18532719
    >>18532722
    >>18532734
    >>18532753
    >>18532759
    >>18532778
    >>18532788
    >>18532798
    >>18532802
    >>18532919

    Bond Combination University, Military Academy, and Art School for 30 C on your part?

    The AdMech are already on their way to retrieve the Printouts and examine the Archaneotech in the Iron Dragons possession. Your population does not welcome the Ecclessiarchy, but they have no feelings one way or the other regarding the Priesthood of Mars, they simply have a higher than normal number of civilian engineers.

    Bring this deal up with the Resistance? You do not Conscript for your PDF, it's all volunteer. As is the Guard. Start Conscription?

    >CONT
    >> Editor 04/01/12(Sun)01:18 No.18533060
    >>18533045
    We can do that by taking our marbled capitol city and putting a ring of ten hueg statues around our palace and administrative complex. Directly in front sof it should be the Emprah, and completing the circle around him should be nine statues, one of each loyalist primarch, featuring some accomplishment or something they were known for. This means Leman Russ with a copy of the Tactica Imperialis or whatever awesome book he wrote that the Imperial Guard bases all its tactics off of, Dorn with his fist or some other symbol of legacy, Vulkan with his hammer because ARTIFICE, and Rowboat with his goddamn Codex Astartes.

    Put Rowboat at the Emperor's immediate right and ask the visiting Ultrafags to help commemorate the statue or sanctify it on their arrival if they have time, after showing them the progress on the genestealer cult.

    Put a respectable primarch on the Emperor's left - like Sanguinus. Put Vulkan opposite the Emperor, to tell the Iron Dragons that we still think they're awesome.

    And put palace or city-wide void shield emitters under the base of each statue, just to make them more than ornamental.

    And, uh, reinforce them with adamantium or something this time so the acid rain doesn't fuck everything up.
    >> Editor 04/01/12(Sun)01:19 No.18533071
    >>18533060
    If we lay them down with gifts of adamantium or some relics of the old governor's (or weave them a battle standard/banner of adamantite strands or something), show them the progress on the genestealer cult, and ask them to commemorate an enormous statue of Rowboat when they land, while filming everything for the evening news, WITH as many munitorum/administratum officials on hand as possible, they're going to have to balance the political exposure and hospitality with their urge to call us all heretics and start shit. Plus we have a chunk of the Iron Dragons chapter hanging around to back us up.
    >> Editor 04/01/12(Sun)01:21 No.18533096
    >>18533055
    DO NOT start conscription.

    Bond university, fuckyeah.jpg, combination school for 30 currency is a steal at twice the price.

    An estimate on the plan with the statues around the administratum complex would be good, details in my posts immediately above.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)01:23 No.18533101
    >>18533071
    No gifts. Fuck them
    We will meet them we will have the statues etc but we will be clear that it was their choice to come here and while we respect them we do not revere them

    Our populace would pitch a fit if we started sucking up to them
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)01:23 No.18533106
    >>18533050
    >>18533048
    Well, so long as we can occasionally raise money by SELLING shares of these companies back to the citizenry if we need to, I am behind an infrastructure and failed business buyout.

    Also as long as we REFORM every business we buy and put it back into the market. It could get the toadies and so forth out of the picture a lot faster, actually.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)01:25 No.18533116
    >>18533106
    Sounds good.
    We would want to keep partial control over things though as a longer term investment and to avoid having to bail them out again
    >> Editor 04/01/12(Sun)01:27 No.18533132
    >>18533101
    Well, whatever in the long run. But consider: the gifts are a bit of an entrapment; they are to the ultras as a political entity, and almost purely for the benefit of the cameras. The Ultramarines would have to swallow the knowledge that there was a live astropathic broadcast being sent to the Segmentum Fortress as well as the sector capital of one of their captains or representatives trying to throw their weight around and bitchslapping people when they'd just been presented with a relic.

    This would be so fucking priceless as blackmail we might get an actual apology out of them, not to mention a shitload of favors wheedled out of Macragge or something. Certainly an outcry and some brofists from chapters related to the Sallies, Fists, etc. If a Space Wolf saw that shit go down he'd totally tell the Ultras what he thought of them, amirite?
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)01:28 No.18533133
    >>18533106
    We could also work a deal that if the company is still profitable x years down the track the people in charge get a percentage of the shares the government holds of the business as a bonus.

    It increases their drive to keep the business profitable
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/01/12(Sun)01:28 No.18533137
    >>18533055
    No conscription for the time being, only do so if we're under attack or something. "Not necessarily conscription but conscription if necessary" should be the policy.

    Build the combined Edu-centre, name it after someone universally liked, and dedicate it to the fallen defending our world or somesuch, patriotic as it were.

    >>18533050
    This guy pretty much got what i'm trying to say, abiet in a much more clearly and shorter than my attempt.

    Personally I don't want to focus too much on the Primarchs, we should focus focus on the Emprah, have a couple of Vulkan, as he's our world's patron Primarch, and some Religious figures with universal appeal and non-threating doctrine, like St. Emelia, who preached compassion.

    Basically relgious stuff that won't offend anyone, thus we get brownie points for being pious, but we don't piss off anyone in exchange.
    >> Editor 04/01/12(Sun)01:28 No.18533139
    >>18533116
    The thing about having a 51% share is, you can just say "we need to raise more capital, create a million more shares, give 51% of the new shares to the company, and sell the rest."
    >> Editor 04/01/12(Sun)01:30 No.18533152
    >>18533137
    Having every primarch expands our appeal to both the populace, which REALLY hates having a few monolithic figures to worship, and to ALL space marines, which helps when you have Ultramar breathing down your neck.

    We're out in the middle of fucking nowhere, and there is a daemon world around. Now is not the time to skimp on making space marines like you and think you're swell.

    Build 'em all. Bond it if you can. Ask the Iron Dragons for help if they want in.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)01:31 No.18533157
    >>18533133
    They could also accuse us of bribery and trying to cover up our heresy

    They aren't liked here with good reason and we stand to gain more if they come across as assholes while we are being polite than if they can start throwing more accusations about

    But I just dislike ultras in general so I may be biased
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)01:33 No.18533171
    >>18533152
    I think our best bet for making nice with marines is the wolves or the fists.

    The wolves because they are already on the side of the non codex chapters and the fists because we are doing a big job of rebuilding and reinforcing the planet
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/01/12(Sun)01:36 No.18533188
    >>18533133
    Profit sharing; it's a good thing.

    We should also seek to provide extended benifits to government workers, to lure more talent.

    Free public transit passes, extended healthcare benifits, create goverment run shops that specifiaclly cater to government employees and families, by offering them discounts as well as tax free goods from there. (with a monthly limit, to prevent people from buying the goods and reselling them for a profit) Non-Government families can also shop there, but they have to pay normal prices and taxes.
    Retirement benifits are also something to look into.

    See into establishing Goverment run vacation/tourism sites, with benfits/discounts to government families, with other paying full price

    Note these benifits also apply to PDF and our guardsmen stationed here, which we then advertise when recruiting.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)01:36 No.18533191
    >>18533137
    >Basically relgious stuff that won't offend anyone, thus we get brownie points for being pious, but we don't piss off anyone in exchange.
    That's actually kind of an awesome thought.

    We should begin to insert small cults devoted to inspiring but human figures who have been canonized in the Imperium into our world's version of the promethian cult.

    We can include:

    -Malcador the Sigilite
    -Ollanius Pius, in human incarnation where the myths differ
    -Macharius, as we're on the Eastern Fringe and that makes him practically local as well as inspiring
    -Sebastian Thor
    -All those saints that started SoB orders
    -Lots of local and other saints

    As they're human figures and not monolithic gods, the citizens should be able to draw philosophical inspiration from them and not merely have them as sources of blind worship.

    As they're totally olay by the Ecclesiarchy, having lots of these chapels and statues in our capital will make us look even more normal to visitors.

    As each of them has an inspiring story that relates directly to Imperial values and thoswe of self-sufficiency, we can make them and the monolithic figures more relevant and meaningful philosophically to our hardy populace. This dovetails with our 'commissars that preach efficiency and capability' program.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/01/12(Sun)01:37 No.18533207
    >>18533055

    There is going to be a "Family Reunion" of sorts in a few months, inviting the various branches of the Von Braun Clan, which includes nobility on their native Hive World of Scrapfurnace to Navy Captains to Imperial Guard Generals to Rogue Traders, Merchant Fleet owners, industrial and food consortium owners, and you believe an Admiral. It's not much in the way of Powers that Be in the Imperium, but it's a start.

    Encourage your RT friend to contact and trade with local minor Xenos to learn about them?

    Begin building relations with Kroot mercenary groups and renegade Tau (If Any?)

    You begin building statues of Resistance Heroes in your biggest public square, made of local rock of course.

    The statues of Guilliman were made of an expensive and unique imported marble from half a Segmentum away, they happened to be extremely sensitive to otherwise harmless trace minerals in the rain of your world.

    You begin construction of a set of statues of the Emperor and his loyalist Primarchs around the capitol, each with a representation of his famous deeds near him.

    The government controls the power plants of Daysimir, but other utilities are in private hands. Many private homes, businesses, and schools are run by privately owned solar, wind, hydro-electric,thermal, or Cold Fusion power plants (For wealthier individuals and businesses). Pretty much everything that can be supplied by well water is.

    Begin exploiting untapped niche markets with subtle government proxy companies? Some businesses are already beginning to exploit these niches.

    >CONT
    >> Trade Advisory Legislator 04/01/12(Sun)01:38 No.18533209
    >>18532753
    Well technically not direct opening markets competitors. but competitors on indirect market.
    They will only interact with local businesses on the job market, since they will have access to governmental restricted areas the privates did not have and will be used to gather up strategic reserves and export the surplus into new markets the privates are not involved.

    And we could get all thins not as planetary governor but as captain-governour von Braun.
    It does not matter in the eyes of the Imperium as long as tithes are paid , and it will mater in the eyes of the locals as its the respected starship captain doing business to aid her position and not the imperial governor taking over local businesses.

    Regarding the AdMech and Achient forge situation , have historians, lormasters and civil engineers and a trustworthy political representative be present at the proceedings to ascertain the whole value of this, since it was found on Daysimir, and to maintain as much of it intact and in place due to the historical significance of it. Certainly precise copies can be made and shipped to adeptus mechanicus representatives. or else a accurate fully functional replica down to the atomic level set in place.
    At any rate we get to keep as much as we can and witnesses and record how it was done. more study material of mid level admech in action.

    also, i thought the purchase with the rogue trader was resolved in the last thread....
    >> Brother Hats 04/01/12(Sun)01:38 No.18533214
    Would it be possible to start provoking a ork wahhhhh, aimed at the daemon planet to weaken it defenses.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)01:40 No.18533235
    >>18533207
    Yes but exploit them in subtle ways, we buy shares in smaller companies rather than opening our own

    See about making a centralized water control corporation so we can ensure water is of a sufficient standard and reasonably priced and available to all
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/01/12(Sun)01:40 No.18533236
    >>18533157
    General corruption and the like are actions causing direct harm to the government, and thus treason, i'm not saying we BLAM every governemt employee that screws up (accidental screwups shouldn't be punihsed, as long as they learn from it, if we lose an empolyee every time someone screws up, we run out of employees, we treat our employees as Thrawn does, NOT Vader.)

    We should be giving governemnt employees good benifits to encourage recruitment, but we should also punish them harser than private sector employees since we hold our people to a higher standard. Carrot and Stick.
    >> Editor 04/01/12(Sun)01:41 No.18533237
    >>18533209

    >Regarding the AdMech and Achient forge situation , have historians, lormasters and civil engineers and a trustworthy political representative be present at the proceedings to ascertain the whole value of this, since it was found on Daysimir, and to maintain as much of it intact and in place due to the historical significance of it. Certainly precise copies can be made and shipped to adeptus mechanicus representatives. or else a accurate fully functional replica down to the atomic level set in place.

    FUND IT
    >> Editor 04/01/12(Sun)01:42 No.18533247
    >>18533236
    This is more or less right, except transparency is going to be far more meaningful than harsher punishment. Carrots are fine. Sticks are fine, but need be no bigger than normal so long as all the beatings are done publicly/in glass houses.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)01:42 No.18533250
    >>18533209
    Agreed. We prevent them from doing it in secret so we prevent them from pulling some bullshit to try and claim it
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)01:43 No.18533253
    >>18533214
    Not yet, we still don't have much of a navy, and I would like to have a far more solid industrial base before trying to take one the orcs or the deamons also we should call in some help from the ordos mallus (they are the ones who manage deamons?) on how to best fight deamons.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/01/12(Sun)01:43 No.18533257
    >>18533191

    You start laying plans for handing out information leaflets about these individuals and building shrines and chapels dedicated to them. Macharius ordered Exterminatus on dozens of human worlds if they didn't fight hard enough and exterminated untold numbers of minor Xenos races. He's remembered in kind of the same way we remember Alexander the Great: A great tactician, conqueror, and leader of men, but also kind of a sociopathic prick and tyrant.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)01:44 No.18533262
    >>18533207

    >Encourage your RT friend to contact and trade with local minor Xenos to learn about them?
    Yes.
    >Begin building relations with Kroot mercenary groups and renegade Tau (If Any?)
    Keep an eye out for them, and tell the RT to if possible.
    >Begin exploiting untapped niche markets with subtle government proxy companies? Some businesses are already beginning to exploit these niches.
    Be fair in competing with them, but sure. So long as quality of output rules the market we will not have a problem.
    >> Trade Advisory Legislator 04/01/12(Sun)01:46 No.18533275
    >>18533139
    I'd advise against that. unless you want to cede control of that company to its rival in the same market.

    WE can register such companies under Von Braun licence not governmental licence and have them act as governmental agencies that dont interfere with the Daysimir market.

    Since we are a former starship captains we must know a few places that we can open up with exports that wont conflict with local exports and thus keep them afloat and profitable enough.

    We should consider gaining private capital in order to establish the von braun noble dynasty.
    Which would entail contacting all von brauns and allied families and having them unified in political, economic and military scope. a few extra officials, a lot of starship officers and who knows what else we could gain firmly behind us...
    A loyal, dependable core to support any action and gain fast support, just in case.

    Not only in military pursuits, but in influencing imperial policy and lobbying our economic issues.

    butt for that we must amass personal power, to make such a thing attractive viable. thus my suggestion to start somewhere.
    >> Editor 04/01/12(Sun)01:47 No.18533282
    >>18533257
    Let's have the leaflets explore both sides of Macharius as a cautionary tale about the nature of success in the Imperium as well as celebrating his victories. He can be both inspiring in his way to a planet that understands desperation ("Macharius wouldn't have had US glassed with a cyclonic torpedo, I don't think. Hell of a fight we fought. Worthy.") and a cautionary tale about how Daysimir needs to stay strong.

    We are under no compunction to sugarcoat things or dumb them down. We can talk philosophy to people instead of merely preaching the gospel, and they will likely appreciate the truth of it.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)01:48 No.18533297
    >>18533275
    I like this.
    We enrich ourselves, our family and our planet all in one

    Also we can show that we are just as invested personally in making this planet work as we are governmentally. We ensure that no unfair advantages go to our businesses and have it all above board to keep any claims of favoritism at bay
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)01:49 No.18533306
    I'm all for getting the RT to be our in-between for xenos trade. That is precisely what they're for.

    It would also keep those xenos off our backs while we try to stamp out the daemon world (still not sure it's possible).
    >> Editor 04/01/12(Sun)01:50 No.18533313
    >>18533275
    >advise against letting the market regulate itself
    Nah, this is a program mainly aimed at rescuing floundering businesses and getting them back on their feet. We can secure the essentials and not trade their stocks if it's utilities or something we want to retain control of, but for everything else, once the government intervention's over we should let the market take 'em back into private hands as needed.

    >establish Von Braun dynasty
    Well, hell, we can shake some hands at the family reunion, but we can simply let our cousins run companies we create, license, and take a controlling share for ourselves in. We do the overseeing and keep them honest, they make a profit and provide a service to the planet (export of the luxury/rare goods our industries put out, finding markets for said exports, supplying necessary raw goods, whatever), and our populace does not see us as horribly greedy fucks so long as we offer them jobs with good pay in these endeavors at every opportunity.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)01:51 No.18533323
    >>18533297
    Seconded, we follow the Promethian creed so our people will be more receptive to learning about the people overall rather than the usual tripe the Ecclesiarchy trots out making them seem infallible
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)01:53 No.18533332
    >>18533313
    Well they mostly have no reason to have any on world holdings, we would set up trade agreements etc that they have for our products
    >> Editor 04/01/12(Sun)01:54 No.18533344
    >>18533332
    Right on, but if they want to invest in our world/buy land/build industry, that's still money poured into the local economy. So while we don't need to start handing out mansions and estates, if they decided that they wanted to expand a spaceport or buy that massive, rotting castle on the private island out in bumfuck and refurbish it with employ of local labor...
    >> Trade Advisory Legislator 04/01/12(Sun)01:55 No.18533348
    >>18533297
    actually we dont directly compete with with local businesses but use government position for them to act as government companies.

    Thus a Von Braun mining company may be able to mine were a other one may not be allowed to mine, but the Von Braun wont sell the stuff in competition to the other one. it will either go on a new export market (non Daysimir consecrated) or stored as surplus reserves for governmental use (to be appropriately refunded. storage fees from governmental payment too.)

    they wont be very happy about any kind of new actor in a market that is not a client, but wont be at our throat for creating a massive direct competitor.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)01:58 No.18533365
    >>18533282
    I like this sentiment. Dumbing it down for people always seemed to do more harm than good in the long run.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)01:58 No.18533367
    >>18533348
    See that is still getting too favoritism for them to handle IMO
    If we do it on an equal playing field as them we can push any accusations of favoritism aside and calm a lot of the potential issues
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/01/12(Sun)01:59 No.18533372
    >Mecharius debate
    Ugh, the reason I wanted non-controverisal figures was that they wouldn't piss off any diehard imperial visitiors, which is the exact opposite of what this would do.

    Since we are building up our tourism, encountering diehard imperial cult followers won't be too uncommon.

    Government should take a neutral stance toward Promethean faith, not taking part in it, and not really following the Cult of the Emperor, if anyone asks, we worship the Emperor because the Imperium itself exists because of him.

    If the government actively endorses the Promethian Creed, it'd attract attention from =][=.

    We should endore figures that don't piss *anyone* off.
    >> Trade Advisory Legislator 04/01/12(Sun)02:01 No.18533385
    >>18533313
    you dont see what i am getting at.
    its mostly a private action under our personal ownership that gets favouritism because we are p;planetary governor. (stop using your western morality of separation of power and conflict of interest, in the IoM that does not matter on a planetary level, as long as tithes are met)

    thus they will act as a free market agent,but in case of emergency can be used as a state intervention tool because we are planetary governor to control the markets.

    at the same time we get a large personal profit and influence in other export markets, and trading lanes.
    Profit and influence we can use to help a few Von Brauns, who will trade in the favour. with loyalty preferably.

    Thus slowly working our way toe creating a rather unified Von Braun dynasty and not a diffuse family.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)02:02 No.18533397
    >>18533372
    Promethean creed is approved so the =][= have no grounds for anything.

    They can't touch us without bringing the ID and therefore the sallies into question.

    And we won't be preaching it, the people will have access to both sides of the story of each and every person, die hard supporters can be told by our representatives that knowing the consequences of our actions is just as important as knowing when to take them
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)02:04 No.18533412
    >>18533372
    >government shoulodn't back the creed or cult
    Too late, we already actively backed and spread it.

    >attract attention from =][=
    Too late. Note the Munitorum guy who was adept at inserting spies everywhere.

    >controversial figures
    Macharius would not be controversial anywhere but on this world. We need to DEFUSE any such controversies, because they are what fuel the rift between our citizenry and the Ecclesiarchy. Besides which, it is a matter of philosophy and not of worship; it is the (enforced) worship they chafe at.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/01/12(Sun)02:05 No.18533420
    >>18533209

    I had to cut it off partway through due to sleep deprivation making every post take 20 minutes and me making stupid "lol so randumb" posts on a whim (Again, sleep deprivation).

    The Ultramarines are pissed because they don't like the Iron Dragons, and because they see Daysimir as belonging to them. Even though it was never part of the Ultramarine Dominion, Rodoris was engaging in negotiations to bring Daysimir into the fold when the disastrous statue incident happened. The Ultramarines stormed out of negotiations and refused to speak with the Planetary Government for years afterwards. Recently they told the Munitorum rep en route to your planet that it was a world under the "Rightful Dominion of Ultramar" that a "Deviant and possibly heretical chapter was attempting to set down poisoned roots upon" and advised caution until they could arrive to "Sort Out the matter with three companies, two Strike Cruisers, and a Battlebarge.

    >>18533262

    You mention it to the RT, who eagerly agrees.

    >>18533209
    >>18533209

    Your advisers agree that pretty much all of these ideas are absolutely brilliant, particularly you going into business under your own name instead of your capacity as Planetary Governor. This will increase your popularity among the Families and slightly increase popularity in the population at large, but also prevent both from viewing you as just another Rodoris attempting to take over the market with Government-run companies. This will, however, require you to separate the Treasury and your personal coffers into two different sums. (This will slightly increase your popularity as well).

    >CONT
    >> Trade Advisory Legislator 04/01/12(Sun)02:05 No.18533421
    >>18533367

    Of course its favouritism. but we are planetary governor. if they were planetary governor they would do the same and we would do just like them.

    but the imperium does not care, we hve the popularity to push for it , and we can create a better job market with it , thus getting the workers on our side.
    plus we can offer piecemeal partnership on the new export markets once we probed them to various other firms that dont compete with our export to that planet or system. thus ensuring that eventually every private firm gains something from this, due to the von braun market policy of bringing in non conflicting dasymiri exports to their markets.

    its a fair trade , and it gets us more of a connection.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)02:07 No.18533431
    >>18533421
    Except we need to avoid that at all costs because that's what caused the last governor to get overthrown

    We work above board and fairly to all do the people will back us up when shit hits the fan
    >> Trade Advisory Legislator 04/01/12(Sun)02:08 No.18533438
    >>18533421
    belay this .

    according to this:
    >>18533420
    we will be seen as a new trade family that deals with government contracts and various exports through von braun contacts.

    no favouritism, in accordance to local custom.
    went better than expected.
    >> Editor 04/01/12(Sun)02:08 No.18533443
    >>18533385
    My sentiments aren't particularly western and have nothing to do with separation of power.

    They have everything to do with what is known of the nature of the world, which has an armed citizenry with expectations of keeping their preconceived civil rights and a pervasively rambunctious private sector with two factions chomping at the bit to beat on the other one after a time of extensive bitterness.

    If we can slowly alter the private sector, one defunct company at a time, we can perhaps eliminate one of said factions without pissing off said armed and dangerous citizenry.

    As for the dynasty, I am putting a plan to you:
    >invite relatives over
    >give them licenses to operate and profit from companies that you oversee and own a controlling share in
    >this binds them to you, makes them owe you favors, enriches your world, and makes you more of a focal point of the dynasty/clan
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)02:09 No.18533456
    >>18533420
    >that Ultramarine force

    Shit, they intend to assault the ID.

    Hopefully their fortresses are built up by the time the smurfs get here. And hopefully our orbital defense plats are also operational.

    We can let the ID defend themselves, but for us, we are not bound by any of Rodoris' agreements or implied promises. Furthermore it is the Ultramarines who left the world alone.

    I do have an inkling that there's an Alpha Legionnaire pulling this shit somewhere.
    >> Trade Advisory Legislator 04/01/12(Sun)02:10 No.18533459
    >>18533431
    nope.jpg

    he tired to do that as imperial official. we are 'integrating' the von brauns in local business custom.

    that we use the planetary governor position and von braun contacts is expected by the families who are acting like a mafia, thus we can act like a mafia.
    they expect us to do it and would like us to do it. its their custom.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/01/12(Sun)02:10 No.18533461
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    >>18533397
    I thought the Promethan Creed was considered radical at best since they *don't worship the emperor as a god*

    I still say we shouldn't get involved it matters of fait, that way if any fuckwad =][= gets his knickers in a twist we can claim plausible denaiability, which we cannot do if we actively endorse it.

    We should keep official faith harmless and innoffensive to avoid pissing off puritans too much.
    >> Editor 04/01/12(Sun)02:11 No.18533471
    >>18533438
    >>18533420
    Cool.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)02:11 No.18533475
    >>18533420
    Ensure the ID's know they are incoming and have alerted their allies
    >> Trade Advisory Legislator 04/01/12(Sun)02:12 No.18533483
    >>18533443
    from the other threads i understood its not two factions. its a multitude of factions.

    and we would become one of them.

    sure eventually we would swallow a lot of them , but that is for the future.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/01/12(Sun)02:12 No.18533487
    >>18533282

    Done.

    >>18533306

    he Xenos are mostly peaceful and many maintain trading relations and even the occasional mutual-defense pact with Imperial worlds in the sector when major Imperial officials aren't looking. Daemon Worlds CAN be reclaimed, but it pretty much requires that every Chaos worshiper on the planet to be killed and a full Exterminatus.

    >>18533385
    >>18533348
    >>18533421

    These...are likely to be less welcomed by the population, but probably won't cause any high-up government employees to find the severed heads of favorite pets in their beds come morning.

    >>18533412

    You didn't actively endorse and spread it, the PDF simply picked it up while being trained by the ID and spread it to the rest of the population from there. The Representative does seem a bit secretive and competent at unusual things, and Inquisitorial ties would explain a lot...Except for the relatvely low position occupied by him.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)02:13 No.18533500
    >>18533461
    It is disliked by hard line puritans but it is still accepted by the Ecclesiarchy.

    Basically it is not a heretical belief but it is very very very hated by the "lawful stupid" of the imperium

    Lots of inquisitors fall everywhere from lawful stupid to chaotic stupid however so we should be ok
    >> Editor 04/01/12(Sun)02:13 No.18533502
    >>18533461
    The Promethian Cult is the chapter cult of the Salamanders, who worship and venerate the Emperor and their Primarch. Just not quite as hard as the Ecclesiarchy. The worst that can be said of it is that it is not for baseline human consumption, though it would likely be practiced on Nocturne and the worlds of successor chapters. I think we'll squeak by with our modified version of the Creed.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)02:14 No.18533515
    >>18533487
    He was however in the perfect position for a smart inquisitor to recruit from.

    He has the right balance of power and responsibility to get away with doing all sorts of things

    Sometimes the best way to get a job done is by pawns rather than queens
    >> Trade Advisory Legislator 04/01/12(Sun)02:15 No.18533527
    gah. my advice is somewhat less coherent.

    I just stayed the night up and finished ME3, and now have the uncontrollable urge to throttle prepubescent boys to death.

    I think ill be signing off for some time - going to sleep and recover sanity. if this is still on, ill revisit.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)02:17 No.18533549
    >>18533487
    by the way how popular are we with the people right now? Also what the status of the attempts to raise an Ogryns regiment?

    >>18533420
    I say we should do it.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/01/12(Sun)02:18 No.18533550
    >>18533515
    Yeah, when it comes to Inquistioral agents people tend to focus on the obvious Rouge Trader and ignore the humble tax collector who gets free reign to go over pretty much all your records.

    He's pretty much the perfect spy against planetary gonvoners.
    >> Editor 04/01/12(Sun)02:18 No.18533563
    >>18533420
    >"Sort Out the matter with three companies, two Strike Cruisers, and a Battlebarge."

    FUCK.JPG

    Good thing those statues we're building have VOID SHIELD GENERATORS in them to protect the Governor's Palace, huh?

    Immediately inform the Iron Dragons of this. They need to know.

    Maybe we want to send entreaties for aid and intercession to the following:
    -Sector capital
    -Segmentum fortress for Ultima Segmentum at Kar Duniash, where the Administratum capital for the sector is
    -Nocturne, home of the Salamanders, should the Iron Dragons think it wise to bother them.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/01/12(Sun)02:20 No.18533572
    What're the repercussions of adding fertility drugs to Ogryn supply shipments?

    They get needed supplies, we get more Ogryn's.
    >> Editor 04/01/12(Sun)02:21 No.18533582
    >>18533550
    So, uh.

    ...Why don't we just invite him over for tea and ask him if he's =][= and can help sort things out before our awesome PDF and other small victories are bombarded to shit by the Ultras?
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)02:21 No.18533585
    >>18533572
    I think mainly that we have a lot more ogryn to worry about

    We also could use them in our mining industry for the heavy labour
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)02:22 No.18533594
    >>18533582
    He has already left IIRC

    And the =][= has little sway over a chapter until they are proven heretical
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/01/12(Sun)02:24 No.18533609
    >>18533563
    Under the guise of protecting yourself against resurgant Xenos attacks, fortify the main population centres. Dig In.

    Since there's a Daemon World nearby, and we've done plenty of training against nomal Humans and Xenos, we should work some anti-CSM in there incase the Great Enemy sends their unholy champions against us.

    Begin contingency plans with the ID's
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/01/12(Sun)02:25 No.18533619
    >>18533443
    >>18533456
    >>18533459
    >>18533461

    You make a note to bring it up at the Clan Gathering.

    The Promethean Faith is sanctioned, but they were refused recruitment at particularly puritan a Shrine World because of it.

    The Families are NOT total Mafia, they are CLOSER to CLEAN mafia than they are to regular businessmen. Many were descended from crime families that went legitimate and still had living relatives from the "Bad old days" when the Occupation ended and Rodoris' reign began. They will treat you like Mafia if you start trying to drive them out of business to make way for your Noble asshole friends through kidnapping, forced confessions of treason, and trumped up crimes. Many just want to beat their Kneecap-smashing crowbars into...Well, useful, industrial crowbars that aren't covered in blood stains and tiny fragments of knee bone.


    I'll be out for a few minutes, I will return shortly. KEEP THEM TABS OPEN.
    >> Editor 04/01/12(Sun)02:25 No.18533622
    >>18533594
    We can invite him back or send a fleet his way, and the =][= may not have official power over a chapter but they may have agents monitoring the chapter among the chapter serfs or whatever other connections and may be able to intercede indirectly.

    The alternative is getting into a political shitfight with Ultramar, which is all about lining up all your guys on one side and all their guys on another and beating your chests until either someone goes home or someone decides to escalate things to a show of force.

    I don't know if we want to pick a fight between a couple of chapters of space marines. I think any such result would trash our planet. As such, we need to talk them the fuck down if we can or fight/scare them off in space.
    >> Editor 04/01/12(Sun)02:27 No.18533638
    Well, since we're digging in, I guess now's not a bad time to put up the speech I drafted for getting the Resistance firmly under your wing. Postan it now, people should let me know if it's shit or needs changing.
    >> Trade Advisory Legislator 04/01/12(Sun)02:28 No.18533643
    >>18533619
    Clean Mafia implies that favouritism and insider trading and regional monopolies are still practised, but without the rampant extortion rackets ant other violent criminal activities.

    at least that is what in understand from clean mafia.
    >> Editor 04/01/12(Sun)02:28 No.18533645
    >>18533638

    Next time the Resistance fighters are in a meeting with you, gather their officers and tell them the following:

    “You wanted a chance to return to your farms, to grow and prosper without the worry of a knife at your back or a noose closing around your family’s throat. As such, I will do you better. For five generations, the following benefits will be granted to those who can prove direct descent from a participant of the resistance - and these proofs will not be frivolous, though the benefits may be claimed posthumously as it was a long fight.”

    “First, your farms will be tithed more lightly than planetary standard. Not so much as to make your neighbors hot with envy, but enough to let your crops prosper. Let the breadbaskets overflow for those that held the cause.”

    “Second, your descendants will be at lower priority for all manpower tithes. Though they may volunteer freely and will be given good training and slightly less costly commissions for officer roles, we will honor the blood you have shed for this world and give your descendants a chance to shed less - though I fully expect they will be of mich mind to volunteer given the following.”

    “Third, subsidies will be paid into scholarships and other means of seeking after education for yourselves and your descendants. For five generations, the cost of learning - whether in university or at the military academy I intend to see built on this world - will be far lighter on the purse.”
    >> Editor 04/01/12(Sun)02:29 No.18533651
    >>18533645

    Cont's

    “These benefits will be noted down on Gubernatorial Writs, perhaps even writs that can be traded freely if the family wishes to do so - I will not deny them that freedom - and affixed to them will be some note of the exploits of the resistance veteran to whom the writ will be issued, whether posthumously or otherwise. The writs will have in them some estimation of the costs of the resistance campaign if the resistance fighters wish, and a total summa of benefits to be divided as appropriate among your descendants, in an amount of currency. Once this runs out there will be certain discounts for tuition, commissions, tithes, and land purchases that will last as long as the generations in question do. I would make it permanent, but that would be to create nobility - so after the last generation has had a try we will have to trust that your descendants showed spirit and steel as you yourselves did and secured prosperity for themselves.”

    “In order to issue the writs, the following steps will be taken: first, if possible, the veteran in question will be interviewed by an authority trusted both by the veterans and the Gubernatorial administration, and as a gesture of forthrightness and a historic telling of deeds some record will be made of the veteran’s deployment, wounds in battle, and armament. NO record will be made of the veteran’s name or identity save a small sample of blood and tissue to be placed into a purity seal attached to the writ itself. This will protect the identity of the veteran’s family for future generations, as we will not track names but possession of the writ, which we will also give the veteran and their family the means to defend.”
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)02:29 No.18533654
    >>18533622
    Well we can put the burden of truth on them about their accusations of heresy from the ID's.

    We can point out the refused to follow through on negotiations then left the planet in Xeno hands for however long well and truly signaling a lack of interest in the planet

    And biggest of all we can tell them that their arrival has been logged with the sector command and unless they have proof and good reason to start laying waste to an imperial planet they will cause themselves and possibly their chapter to be declared excommunicae traitorus
    >> Editor 04/01/12(Sun)02:29 No.18533659
    >>18533651

    Cont's

    “Second, the weaponry used by the veteran in the course of the resistance, if it survives, is to be examined by this selfsame trusted authority and its age and use determined. A copy of the writ may be attached to the weapon as further proof of authenticity. In this way, the weapons themselves may be passed on as symbols of the resistance veteran’s valor and proof of benefits to descendants.”

    “In the case that neither the veteran nor the weapons provide physical proof, we will institute a program whereby those that have physical proof may vouch for a limited number of fellows, such that those who are deceased, disintegrated, unmarked through luck in war, or otherwise off-put by this are not denied what they deserve.”

    “In return, we ask that when you do retire to your estates and avail yourselves of these benefits, the following be observed: if the weapons are less than pure in the eyes of the Imperial Creed, they NOT be openly displayed or used barring times of great need, as we are under greater scrutiny. To compensate you for this, we will also issue warrants to your families allowing them to own mightier weapons of whatever sanctioned make they choose, within reason. These will be passed down through the family and available at birthright.” (Think Vostroyan Firstborn here)
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)02:30 No.18533663
    >>18533585
    If we can get more BONE modifications, it is possible that this could work out. Also, they could serve as a wonderful source of servitor parts.
    >> Editor 04/01/12(Sun)02:30 No.18533667
    >>18533659
    Continues and ends.

    “Finally, should the weapon be of impure make and thus a weapon of desperation taken up by resistance veterans to defend their world, we would ask that the firing mechanism be disabled at the end of the veteran’s life, and that the weapon be enshrined as appropriate. This may also ensure that the souls of the veteran’s descendants are not affected by xenos taint, which may blight the brave spirits of those that threw off the yoke of the Tau in the time of need. Let us give you greater arms for the next crisis, arms that will not have you hewed down by a supposed relief force from deep within the Imperium, and lay to rest the arms you needed when things were at their worst when you go to meet your fates.”

    "As such, I give you these writs and style them after Malcador the Sigilite, who like yourselves served when proper authority was absent. You may come forward on your own time to recieve them, and to take your place as members of the Sigilian Band of Daysimir."
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/01/12(Sun)02:31 No.18533680
    I can't wait until the RT shows up and has more potentialy lucrative items for sale, we should estabilsh some rare crops that we keep VERY close to our chest and designate them as a king of planetary "Signature Good." I want to be like China during the Middle Ages when the Europeans thought silk grew on trees and shit.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)02:32 No.18533693
    >>18533643
    What I'm getting from 'clean mafia' is that they've gone legit/straight/etc and gotten out of crime, but are quite happy to start back up if provoked.

    >>18533654
    All this is true, but must be approached proactively. We have to accuse them of this publicly in a way that won't simply make them bomb us faster, BEFORE they get here.

    But good points.

    >>18533663
    Hell yes, heavy servitors.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)02:35 No.18533716
    >>18533693
    Well we wouldn't accuse them of anything but we would make them aware that their actions are being seen and are going to have repercussions for them and their chapter far greater than they thought.

    The main point to get across is this is not part of the ultramarines domain and they will not get anywhere trying to bully us into being part of it
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)02:36 No.18533731
    Editor, that is a hell of a speech. In fact, there was so much text I didn't read it. Maybe you can provide a condensed version?
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)02:37 No.18533748
    >>18533716
    We could if we wanted to be dirty point out that these people fought off their oppressors and false rulers much in the way Guilliman did, and that if they attacked these people they would be dishonoring his actions by declaring similar actions heretical
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)02:39 No.18533756
    >>18533731
    The tl;dr of it is cheap education, less tax and more benefits for 5 generations of resistance veterans family
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)02:44 No.18533796
    >>18533731
    Condensed version is:

    -Resistance fighters and descendants get five generations of cheap tithes on their farms, cheap officer's comissions if they volunteer for the PDF or other military, cheap college, and lower likelihood to be drafted into Administratum manpower tithe that the planet will be forced to pay.

    -In exchange, veterans come forward, get a physical exam, get their wounds noted down, and give an account of their historical role and present their weapons, and weapons are neither registered nor confiscated though the type of weapon is noted down. Identity of veteran is not recorded to protect privacy of veteran and family. Participation in resistance to tau and wounds taken in battle and weapon info noted down in writ.

    -Blood and skin samples are taken from veterans, affixed to a purity seal, seal affixed to Sigilian Writ. Writ is presented when benefits are claimed. Writ may be freely traded as commodity as desired. Copy of writ may be attached to veteran's weapon.

    -Dead or disintegrated veterans are vouched for by vets that are alive and obviously members of the resistance, starting with Davos Ithkael if necessary. This way, nobody gets left out because they got unlucky. Anyone that was lucky enough not to take wounds or had records destroyed or whatever, same deal - someone vouches for you, your story checks out, you get the benefits.

    -When resistance vets die, if they have xeno weapons, the weapon's firing mechanism is deactivated. To replace these, their families are given the right to own better Imperial weapons as a heirloom like Vostroyan Firstborn own their own weapons.

    That's about it.
    >> Editor 04/01/12(Sun)02:47 No.18533818
    >>18533796
    Benefits here are:
    -you know what kind of weapons the resistance vets have even though they're not registered.
    -the xeno weapons are taken out of circulation to a great degree when the vets die and replaced by Imperial ones, so you have less heretical shit on your world
    -the resistance guys and their families are given opportunities to excel, and given that they're already probably overachievers this is not a bad thing for your world
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/01/12(Sun)03:17 No.18534017
    >>18533796
    >>18533609
    >>18533582
    >>18533572

    The Iron Dragons have recalled their fleet from anti-pirate/Chaos Raider operations to defend their world. Messages have been sent to all three parties and they are waiting for supplies. Techmarines have been recalled from Orbital Defense repair to help finish the Power Supply, Void Shields, and Lance Battery of their new Fortress Monastery.

    Buy Planetary Improvements Fortress Cities (40 C) (Fortifies all of your cities against invasion) and Bunker Network (30 C) (Provides a network of bunkers in your major cities for defense against invasion and limited defense against orbital bombardment)? It is highly unlikely that the Ultramarines will actually attack an Imperial world, especially a well-defended one. According to their last message they apparently believe that the planet is being overrun by Genestealers and that the Iron Dragons are an under-strength, war-weary Chapter desperately seeking new recruiting grounds. The current state of things may prove to be a surprise, especially with the Navy Fleet escorting the Munitorum freighters in system (A few Cruisers with escort ships).

    You ask Ak'ryn about ant-Chaos Marine/Marine training for your PDF. He catches the implication and agrees to train your PDF against both the Ruinous Powers and more mundane Traitors.

    Confirm using this speech in next negotiation session with Resistance?

    Would you look to look at RT goods now or wait a while? He won't wait around forever. You have 95 C in your Treasury at the moment.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/01/12(Sun)03:18 No.18534025
    >>18534017

    Replies, not supplies.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/01/12(Sun)03:20 No.18534042
    Waiting for you guys to reappear from your lairs. Come back any time.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)03:21 No.18534046
    >>18534017
    Look at his wares and give the speech
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)03:24 No.18534058
    >>18534017
    >Buy Planetary Improvements Fortress Cities (40 C) (Fortifies all of your cities against invasion) and Bunker Network (30 C)
    Confirmed by this anon.

    >speech/resistance
    Do our advisors say anything about it? Maybe privately take Davos Ithkael aside and ask him if he thinks it's a good idea first, but otherwise my vote is for it.

    >RT goods?
    Sure, let's have a look.
    >> Editor 04/01/12(Sun)03:27 No.18534084
    I can't upvote my own speech, but I do like the idea of running it past our aides and altering any parts that people think will be taken badly. But this is as an opener to negotiations, not as some kind of end-all thing.

    And let's find out what the rogue trader has and buy those improvements.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)03:28 No.18534095
    >>18534058
    Buy the upgrades after we look at the wares but otherwise agreed
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)03:29 No.18534097
    speaking of the resistance, how's the genestealer-clearing effort going? Have we got our capital city back for now? Are the sewers under control?
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/01/12(Sun)03:32 No.18534122
    >>18534046
    >>18534058

    You decide to ask Davos about the offer before presenting it, then head to the Spaceport.

    Malector grins out you on the landing field, you notice the crowd of glaring Astartes is still lingering, staring with disapproval at the Land Raider that the RT charged them in exchange for leading them to Daysimir:

    "I was wondering when you would finally show my dear, a businessman cannot wait on a client forever, even an old friend with quite a bit of money to spend."

    You currently have 99 C to spend unless my math is off.

    Wares for sale:

    230 Virus Bombs (Note that "Virus Bomb" does not equal Life Eater Virus. These are your average, garden-variety Imperial Bio-Weapons), old and have lost a lot of their potency, many have become completely inert. However, they are still very lethal. If you can hire a Magos Genetor or Bioligis then he could likely return potency to the weapons and revive a few of the dead ones (They make good decoys anyway). (40 C)

    One Baneblade: Standard Mars-Pattern Baneblade, Malector found it on a voyage, but has to let it go considering that his Warrant specifically limits him to owning one at a time, and the Inquisition is already watching him under a neutron microscope for any excuse to render him down into a Servitor. (70 C)
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)03:33 No.18534129
    >>18534017
    I Confirm the Bunker Network (30 C) but would like to wait on the Fortress Cities till we have seen the RT's stuff.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)03:34 No.18534134
    >>18534122
    I would love the baneblade to be the centerpiece of our PDF but the 70c it costs would be much better spent on the upgrades
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)03:36 No.18534146
    >>18534122
    The Virus Bombs might be useful in purging the daemon planet, but I think Virus Bombs might empower nurgle? So i'm not sure.
    >> Changing the list a little bit with now, non-sleep-deprived judgement. TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/01/12(Sun)03:38 No.18534152
    Eight particularly vicious and high-quality Combat Servitors, heavily armored and armed with a variety of nasty close-combat and ranged weapons. (14 C)

    One Shadowsword tank. Malector plans on running away from any battles that involves fighting enemy titans as fast as possible. (50 C)

    One Archaneotech Plasma Pistol. (10 C)

    One over-charged Rhino APC. (5 C)

    One Ring-mounted Digi-Weapon (Laser). (25 C)

    Strong Balgor: Scaly Gladiator (Slave) (Necromunda-native Abhuman) absolutely loyal to its master and a vicious fighter. Pretty damn smart to boot. Allowed each of his enemies to cur him once before killing them back in his arena fighting days. According to Malector he has killed World Eater Berzerkers in single combat before. (10 C)

    One Mutant Vixen (Mercenary). Flying furry Psyker with a Tau Pulse Pistol a Billion-Colored sword (It's the Warp, don't ask). Is similarly loyal, but will launch on hour-long speeches about how everyone hates her because they don't understand what a super-special snowflake she is if given the slightest opportunity. Incredibly, indescribably annoying but handy in a fight if you can handle the near-constant cries of "Fursecution!". (20 C plus regular salary)

    A renegade Fire-Warrior clad in a Crisis suit. Looking for a new employer that hates the Tau Empire as much as he does (Mercenary). (10 C up front, plus a regular salary and a position on your staff.)
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)03:41 No.18534170
    >>18534152
    See I would like the fire warrior on hand just kept out of the way while we have visitors
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)03:42 No.18534189
    >>18534152
    I feel the servitors would be useful

    I think we should consider the 70c a serve for the upgrades though
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/01/12(Sun)03:43 No.18534196
    One personal Valkyrie Gunship. Gilded and decorated, very high-quality. (10 C)

    One Cyberian Granite (Significantly harder than steel) statue of Malcador the Sigillite.

    The Death-World seeds he found in the back of the Explorators freezer:

    Venus Mantrap: Vicious carnivorous plant, attempts to devour any creature that ventures too close. Grow only in tropical climes. (5 C)

    Crawler Vines: Highly dangerous carnivorous vine, grows swiftly in all climates and can cover entire continents if left unchecked. Good for use as a bio-weapon against enemy worlds. (3 C)

    Murder flowers: A stunningly beautiful flower whose petals will explode in a shower of mono-molecular shards capable of shredding Terminator armor if you stand too close to it for longer than a few seconds. (6 C)

    Pond Muck: Predatory blob of algae that resides in deep pools, lies in wait for prey before pouncing up to engulf them in an acidic embrace. (7 C)

    Other shit he dug up out of storage:

    20 Non-Chaos Zombies, stupid as Hell and contagious through bites and only bites, but can be herded towards the enemy with meat on sticks if needed as meat shields. More of a curiosity and zoo item than an actual weapon (6 C) (Completely unrelated to Nurglite Plague Zombies, which are dangerous as Hell)

    Four Ambulls (2 C)

    One tame Squig-Hound (8 C)

    A Fra'al vase. Very pretty. (1 C)

    >Choices?

    The Iron Dragons inquire about when they'll be getting those vehicles so they can reverse-engineer and provide you with blueprints (The IDs believe strongly in being self-sufficient for War Machines).
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)03:46 No.18534219
    This isn't the full list, but so far I'd say:

    -buy the Archaeotech plasma pistol and give it to the Iron Dragons to reverse engineer and ramp up for mass production so as to equip officers in our PDF with the design, and

    -get the fire warrior and use him to keep training your guys against the Tau and as the leader of any more renegades you bring aboard for the same purpose.

    The abhuman just isn't useful enough by himself. Anything that can get through an honor guard that might include Iron Dragon champions stationed at your side at a time of need is going to get past him in all likelihood.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)03:46 No.18534224
    >>18534196
    I say valkyrie and statue then the upgrades if we can afford them

    Send the vehicles to the ID immediately. We want them up and running as soon as they are able
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/01/12(Sun)03:47 No.18534236
    >>18534196

    A note about the Malcador Statue: The last time you looked over RT goods you asked to see it personally. When it is brought before you the statue almost seems to be watching you from cold, stone eyes. Instead of feeling unnerved by this you get a sense of calm, almost aloof benevolence. As if some old friend or father figure were watching over you from very far away...
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)03:48 No.18534246
    >>18534196
    >Iron Dragons
    You don't already have them? We will send them right away.

    You I would love to let lose those deathworld seeds on the daemon world (and maybe the orc world) e especially those vines.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)03:49 No.18534248
    >>18534219
    Reverse engineering archeotech isn't really possible or financially sound, that's mainly why it is so valuable.

    We intend to be keeping away from the pointy end of combat anyway so we don't really need it.

    My only issue with the tau is we have SoB, Ultras and munitorum personnel inbound and it would be a very bad thing to have a tau walking around on a newly freed world, regardless of his feelings on the empire
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)03:50 No.18534255
    >>18534246
    See virus bombs and death world plants getting put on a daemon world is just asking for trouble

    I thought we bought those last time though didn't we OP?
    >> Editor 04/01/12(Sun)03:50 No.18534260
    -Buy the statue of Malcador. Put that in the room you meet with the public and foreign dignitaries with. Make it the centerpiece of a personal motif that identifies you with the hardy, independant, but mortal nature of your people.

    -Buy the archaeotech pistol, give it to the Iron Dragons to reverse engineer if they can manage it.

    -Get the fire warrior.

    Everything else, pass on. We don't have a use for the virus bombs yet and most of them are duds, and we don't have the facilities to tinker with them safely. Our environment is our best resource, we CANNOT afford to fuck around with bio-weapons yet. But we could tell the RT we want to put them on layaway MAYBE.

    Give the Iron Dragons the vehicles they need.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)03:52 No.18534273
    Thee Valkyrie would make a very good personal vehicle, they are well armed and armoured and can carry an escort for us.

    We need that statue and it should go somewhere in the public eye
    >> Editor 04/01/12(Sun)03:53 No.18534278
    >>18534248
    >reverse-engineering archaeotech not possible or sound
    Usually you'd be absolutely right, but these guys are Sallies successors. At worst it's a nice gift for them, but these are likely to be artificers beyond compare.

    Maybe we'll roll well on a d100 or something, too.

    However, we could just ask the chapter's Master of the Forge if he could make more like it.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)03:53 No.18534281
    >>18534273
    Not to mention it is a very high quality one and might be able to be used to make blueprints for more
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/01/12(Sun)03:53 No.18534282
    >>18534224

    What exactly do you mean by "Upgrades"?

    >>18534246

    You order vehicles ad blueprints ti be sent out immediately. They thank you for your resources.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)03:54 No.18534283
    I would like to forward a vote for the baneblade. Being able to reverse engineer it with ID help might put us in the forefront of arms supply in this region.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)03:55 No.18534291
    >>18534282
    The bunker network and fortress cities.
    I figure they are a good thing to get done early since we have lots of hostile factions in this area of space
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)03:58 No.18534316
    >>18534283
    Baneblades need a lot of specific parts to make.
    We would have trouble producing them until we could make the armaments for them IMO

    As much as I love the idea there is general
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)03:58 No.18534322
    >>18534316
    Lost half of my post.
    There is generally a reason they are made on forge worlds
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)04:06 No.18534386
    So we all agree on the statue at least?

    I see two for archeotech
    Two for Valkyrie
    One for land raider, death world flowers and servitors

    Anyone else have anything to say on it?
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)04:08 No.18534398
    Buy the statue

    Don't hire the firewarrior

    Do the bunker network and fortress cities.

    Then take a rest. Till the ultras get here
    >> Editor 04/01/12(Sun)04:08 No.18534403
    >>18534386
    We definitely agree on the statue, I think.

    I'll throw in with the Valkyrie crowd. We can wait until the next round of taxes or something to finish all the upgrades.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)04:10 No.18534417
    >>18534322
    >>18534316
    We were separately investing in uplift. It would be a long term project. The Ragnarok is also giving local forges experience with armor (though nothing as fearsome as the Baneblade).
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)04:11 No.18534426
    After we finish with the RT, we should make the speech to the resistance and finalize negotiations with them and prepare to receive the clan.

    We should also think about the structure of our PDF rather more seriously. We may rival the DKoK in some respects, but our organization is not that of a siege regiment.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)04:11 No.18534428
    >>18534283
    >>18534291
    >>18534316

    It is not entirely uncommon for High-Imperial worlds (The highest standard Imperial Tech Level, one level above where you are now) to make their own Baneblades. It can also be pointed out that Astartes Armor, weapons, and non-relic tanks are also generally produced on Forge Worlds, but that doesn't stop the Salamanders or Iron Dragons.
    Confirm buying Malcador Statue, Valkyrie, and Archaneotech Pistol from RT and then Fortress Cities+ Bunkers for a total of 100 C? (You can afford it if you cut back on some project temporarily, say, the less-extreme local "Divine Mandate Commissars" or Orbital Defense Repairs.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)04:12 No.18534434
    >>18534403
    Well if we get one or the upgrades instead of both we can afford the archeotech pistol, death world flowers or tau bodyguard all of which sound good

    I am already in the Valkyrie crowd

    Of course the statue is a big question since we don't know the price of it but I would rather get planetary fortresses then get bunkers afterwards
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/01/12(Sun)04:13 No.18534437
    >>18534428

    Forgot my Trip there.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)04:15 No.18534457
    >>18534428
    Confirm the purchases but not canceling anything, see if we can haggle him down a bit or just delay bunkers or fortresses until we have the cash
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)04:18 No.18534483
    >>18534428
    I say don't buy the Archaneotech Pistol and not cut back
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)04:21 No.18534506
    >Confirm buying Malcador Statue, Valkyrie, and Archaneotech Pistol from RT and then Fortress Cities+ Bunkers for a total of 100 C? (You can afford it if you cut back on some project temporarily, say, the less-extreme local "Divine Mandate Commissars" or Orbital Defense Repairs.

    Sure, assuming we can't just borrow the money from personal funds. Can slow down our commissar project slightly.

    We'll think about Baneblades after we have the 600C scratch to upgrade to self-sufficient high imperial without AdMech interference.

    And tell the RT that if he finds a knight titan we'll buy it.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/01/12(Sun)04:21 No.18534507
    >>18534438
    >>18534457

    Alright, hagglin'.

    Roll 1d100. Below 50 you don't haggle him down. Above 50 you do. Above 75 you haggle him down an extra 10 C for a total price of 85 C. Below 25 and you both fail to haggle him down and insult him, losing rep and jacking up prices on his next visit/possibly causing him to sell his best toys elsewhere.

    >Confirm?
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)04:23 No.18534526
    rolled 91 = 91

    >>18534507
    Here goes nothing
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)04:24 No.18534534
    >>18534526
    We are best haggler
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)04:25 No.18534543
    You know what we should work towards? Being able to manufacture Kasrkin-quality carapace armor and being able to sanctify it. That'd be good for an assault on the daemon world.

    Baneblades are nice and all, but a large portion of our infantry having the best possible kit would do wonders. If we're cut off from reinforcements, every life counts.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)04:26 No.18534545
    >>18534526
    Since we have the extra 15 should we grab something else? As a show of good will
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)04:27 No.18534566
    >>18534543
    This is a good plan.
    It would also make our people happier about joining up if they had access to good armour
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/01/12(Sun)04:27 No.18534570
    >>18534506

    As of right now your personal funds and your Treasury are one and the same.

    Almost all of Malectors stock will have been bought up by the time he swings back around for his next visit, consider pretty much everything including mercenaries to be a one-time deal.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)04:30 No.18534589
    >>18534543
    Imperial hold on this region is tenuous. A world capable of producing war materiel of the calibre of a super-heavy tank would be a godsend. Then again, good carapace would as well.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)04:30 No.18534590
    >>18534570
    We should separate them once we start to set up businesses under our name, until then keep them joint

    So should we get some deadly flowers? Something else? Or save our money?
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)04:31 No.18534600
    >>18534589
    We could pump out considerably more carapace than we could super heavy tanks right now.

    Baneblades should be more of a long term goal for us as far as I am concerned
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)04:34 No.18534634
    >>18534590
    Leave the goddamn death world plants. Our environment is a pristine resource!

    >>18534600
    >>18534589
    We can work up to super-heavy tanks, but frankly we should shoot for Gorgons first so we can equal the DKoK's vehicle stocks. Gorgons, especially the rarer, covered kind, can transport fifty men at once to the Chimera's dozen.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)04:36 No.18534654
    >>18534634
    Oh I never meant have them on our planet

    Find some crappy moon with no atmosphere and play with them there, no fucking up our planet
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/01/12(Sun)04:37 No.18534660
    >>18534526

    You manage to haggle him down considerably with no hard feelings. You have new hardware, enough cash to start fortifications, and 15 C to spare.

    >>18534543
    >>18534566
    >>18534589

    You have 50 sets of Carapace armor previously purchased from this RT, along with 20 Hotshot Lasguns and power cells, but can produce neither locally. 20 suits of armor and the Hotshots are currently occupied by a group of young PDF who show special promise, currently undergoing Stormtrooper training to serve as your personal bodyguards.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)04:43 No.18534705
    We can afford the combat servitors.
    They may be a very good investment
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)04:43 No.18534711
    >>18534660
    Well, we have adamantium on-world so that's cool, but carapace is made of plasteel and ceramite. Do we have any plasteel and ceramite anywhere in the solar system? Can we trade for it without taking a bath?

    What would it take to produce Kasrkin-quality carpace and hellguns? (Not hotshot lasguns, the breakdown rate and difficulty of manufacture is significantly higher.)

    Let's give this some thought.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)04:45 No.18534723
    >>18534705
    We can always get more combat servitors. Get the abhuman bodyguard!
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)04:45 No.18534724
    >>18534711
    I think this would be a good plan.
    We were intending to make our planet into space Vegas but I think branching out is a better plan
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)04:45 No.18534729
    >>18534724
    Space vegas is already go, we can keep going there and branch out too.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)04:46 No.18534731
    >>18534723
    Yeah I only suggested it because it is 1 bodyguard or 8 melee and ranged combat servitors of good quality
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/01/12(Sun)04:52 No.18534774
    >>18534711

    You have the resources to refine Plasteel (Almost all Imperial planets do) and the ability to manufacture Ceramite (An Advanced Ceramic) The Iron Dragons will be drawing on local mineral resources to manufacture almost all of their equipment once they finish building their Monastery.

    Either Combat Servitors or Scaly Gladiator Bodyguard?
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)04:52 No.18534781
    >>18534731
    Bodyguard lets us save up 5C and has killed World Eater Berzerkers, is all.

    Anyway, I'm not attached. Want to get this wrapped up and see about making that speech to the Resistance.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)04:57 No.18534812
    I want to have this done with so we can focuse on Ogryns
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)04:59 No.18534824
    >>18534774
    I vote that we should not hire any one.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/01/12(Sun)05:03 No.18534845
    >>18534774

    What I meant was you have the materials on your planet to manufacture Ceramite. You do not have the infrastructure.

    Low Imperial planets are fairly standard, can manufacture simpler stuff like lasguns and Flak armor, basic medicine and solar/wind/thermal/Nuclear power plants. About half of the Civilized Worlds in this Sector are this tier. The others are High Space (10 minutes into the future level)

    Mid Imperial is more advanced, can manufacture all but the most complex products. Is fully capable of manufacturing most IG gear (Leman Russ tanks, lascannons, Bolters, Sentinels, Chimeras, Basilisks etc), satellites, Cold Fusion reactors and orbital minefields. Some lower-tier cybernetics and a few advanced medicines. Very few of these planets are in the Sector. This is the Tech Level you are at.

    High Imperial: The most advanced non-Forge World tier commonly available. Can manufacture practically everything from plasma guns to hellguns, carapace armor, Lightning Fighters, Thunder Bombers, Valkyries, orbital platforms, plasma reactors, Baneblades, even small merchant ships and Cobra Class frigates. Your limit is pretty much large Starships and Titan Legions. Very few planets are this tier and there are only three in your Sector (All in the Capitol system)
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/01/12(Sun)05:08 No.18534871
    >>18534845 (Forgot half my post)

    Right now much of your Infrastructure is relying on High Imperial grade Plasma Reactors and other vital systems. If a Warp Storm or enemy action cuts off your contact with the rest of the Sector then your most important infrastructure will eventually fail without replacement parts from off world that are too complex for you to currently manufacture.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/01/12(Sun)05:10 No.18534885
    >>18534871 (And again I forget to put everything down before hitting "Submit")

    1 vote not to buy anything, 1 vote for Bodyguard, 1 for Servitors, 1 neutral.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)05:15 No.18534923
    >>18534885
    Servitors please
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)05:15 No.18534926
    rolled 73 = 73

    >>18534885
    Here's a random number generated for no good reason, perhaps it will help decide something. I'm voting for the bodyguard, btw.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/01/12(Sun)05:16 No.18534931
    Gonna Archive and call it a night.

    I promise to start earlier and not be AFK for an hour at a time next time, as I think that was the point where the thread was mortally wounded.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/01/12(Sun)05:17 No.18534934
    >>18534923

    Servitors purchased, you have 1 C left in your Treasury. g'night /tg/.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/01/12(Sun)05:18 No.18534938
    >>18534926

    Make it a draw to be decided next thread.
    >> Anonymous 04/01/12(Sun)05:42 No.18535067
    I still think we should make Davos our husbando. Little romance in your campaigns is always fun and tests writing ability.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/01/12(Sun)06:41 No.18535326
    Dammit, I take a short nap and everyone goes and buys crazy stuff, I was hoping to get the Death World seeds as not only can they be used on those remote islands we have as Death World training camps, but we could then harvest more seeds to drop on the Daemon World.

    Let's try not to hire any more Xenos, we already have a bodyguard of elite troops in full Stormtrooper kit (Carapace, Hotshots w/ targeters, Krack/Frag Grenades, Meltabombs, Medpacks and Commbeads.)



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