I don't have much planned yet, but I am thinking that I want the players to run into some kind of giant superscarybad monster that forces them to run away.

I want the game to retain its natural 4e grimdark feel, though, so I was thinking of including something about the Eladrin of the area becoming nomadic because of the aforementioned scarybad.

>>17740517
Have your players seem that wolf princess weeaboo thing?

>>17740565
Not to my knowledge. Of course, I'm not even sure what it is you're referencing.

>>17740594
He's talking about Princess Mononoke

Which is very good, incidentally.

When all the world has gone to sleep
The hunters to the forest creep
From out 'the wild wood comes the call:
"The hunt is life ... the hunt is all ..."

An ancient forest beckons me
To run skyclad amongst the trees
My lusty spear, it cannot wait
The gentle deer to penetrate

Cernunnos, Lord of Beasts, he grunts:
"Come join us for the Wylde Hunt! ..."

Have you considered Corpse Candles. Little lights that call out to you from the darkness. People follow them away from the path the light suddenly blinks out and leaves you lost in the forest alone in the dark.

>The Fae

Oh baby, while my expertise is Changeling, you've come to the right place when you want some advice on creepy/awesome Fae shit. What in particular are you looking for?

>>17740619
Oh! Yes, yes we have all seen that. I don't want to overuse anything from Mononoke, but a reference here or there would probably go unnoticed.

>>17740623
I do like Corpse Candles, and I hadn't thought of it. Thank ye, kind sir. I also like the idea of the Wild Hunt, though it was something I was planning on introducing later on, so if anything, it would only be a teaser, of sorts.

>>17740660
P-p-pickle surprise?

>>17740660
The game is very grim, and also dark, so I'm primarily looking for grimdark + overgrown + scary nature, not happy nature.

Sent the Wild hunt on there asses. Maybe a single hunter comes a cross them by chance and your party deals with him easily but that the attention of other hunters, maybe even the lord of the Wild Hunt may want to see hunt a new kind of prey.

This is also their first visit into the feywild, so there are no established precedents as to what they will encounter or how it will look and feel. This is less of me trying to pigeonhole images, and more of searching out good inspiration.

>>17740505
I'd look up Hellboy II: the Golden Army
The elves, trolls, and fairies of that movie are what a grimdark feywild should be, in my mind.

captcha: arbo'rous bratur

Arbor? how approriate

>>17740712
Up until now I've avoided the movie because it looked kind of lame, but I never considered it for feywild inspiration. I'll check it out.

>>17740662
Oh shit what was that horse demon in fae lore. It's like an awesome beautiful horse that keeps harrassing you to take it as a mount. When you mount the horse you find yourself unable to get back off again. The horse will then head towards its lake and dive in... you drown.

Also pick related. The party could meet the Green Knight. Challange the party a blow for a blow. When their best fighter hits the green knight let their blow knock his head clean off. The Green Knight then picks up his head and tells them that he will return later to take his swing.

>>17740685

Well, first off, remember that the Fae used to have all sorts of fabulous and complementary titles. The Kindly Ones, The Gentry, The Fair Folk, The Lords and Ladies, and the like. This wasn't because they were particularly deserving of these titles - it was more that if you said anything that insulted or offended them they'd fucking ruin you and anybody who kinda looked like you.

Fae logic is weird, alien, and nigh incomprehensible to normal people beyond protocols for interacting with mortals (if they're there at all), and yet, it all makes perfect logical sense to the Fae who follow it. They're often actually strictly bound by these rules and sometimes even disappear in puffs of bad form when they violate these rules - if they're even capable of breaking them (or CONCEIVING of breaking them) at all.

To most people, the best way to deal with the Gentry is to not ever get noticed by them in the first place. Never be interesting to the Fae, in a good way or a bad way, because their attention is almost invariably going to end up sucking for you because of how warped their thought processes get. If one's doing something nice for you, pay it back in kind, but not too much or it might get more offended than if you'd stiffed it entirely. If something's being cruel to you, suck it up and try to bear it as stoically as possible and pray they're not the kind that gets their jollies from treating people like Job.

If you've been found interesting by a Fae, congratulations, you're probably already fucked. You're not going to escape it and you're probably not going to thwart it unless it's narratively appropriate that you do. Pray for the one in a million chance that they grant you a no-strings-attached boon instead of some sort of monkey's paw, or instead of taking you back to Faerie to be a conversation piece.

>>17740712

anon from >>17740743, I loved it to pieces. If nothing else, the art design is FANTASTIC.
It's helpful b/c the BBEG is a rouge fay prince. (that's no spoiler, it's made pretty obvious from minute one of the film)

Another good one to look up would be Pan's Labyrinth (and just like Hellboy 2, directed by Guillermo del Toro). Pan's Labyrinth doesn't have as many monsters though.

>>17740764
Ahaha yes! Both of these ideas are awesome and EXACTLY the kind of thing I'm looking for! A thousand action points to you, anon.

>>17740764
IIRC I think you're thinking of is a kelpie.

Oh fuck what was that thing. Fae music and fae wine! NEVER FUCKING LISTEN! NEVER FUCKING TASTE IT!

Old lore. If you listen to fae music and join in their dance... yeh... you get tired... fae don't.... not a single fuck is given by the fae... dance dance dance "oh this is fun" dance dance dance "oh shit can't stop" dance dance dance "FUCK FUCK" dance dance dance "WHY!?" dance dance dance "so..... tired" dance dance dance *dead* dance dance dance *still dead* dance dance.

>>17740786
That is, more or less, exactly what I had in mind. Kind of like the faeries from Midsummer Night's Dream, only even more vindictive. Or perhaps the Changelings of yore (I think they were French?) No Tinkerbell type pixie stuff.

>>17740788
I liked Pan's Labyrinth, and watching it definitely was a huge influence in me making the decision to send the party into the feywild. I didn't realize Del Toro was behind Hellboy II, I'll definitely have to watch it now.

Speaking of the French,
>captcha: Accuracy gateau
Now there's one hell of a cake.

>>17740858

The dance does this, yes, but the food and drink (and sometimes rest) is usually more about the implicit acceptance of Fae hospitality, and buying into their fucked up system of laws and logic. You eat that delicious meal and all of a sudden you're stuck in Arcadia. Sometimes, the Fae just get angry at a mortal pilfering their stuff.

>>17740867

Have you ever read World of Darkness books? There's an entire line about these sorts of Faeries, called Changeling: the Lost. Even if you never run it it's stuffed full of incredible examples of how hardcore/terrifying the Fae used to be in the old stories.

>>17740858

like Tir Na Og (land of unending youth) from Celtic myth.
Mortals can stay there, if favoured, but if they want to visit the real world, they CANNOT touch Earthly soil or they'll age rapidly, as days in Tir Na Og is centuries on Earth.

At not-my-computer right now

Bumping so I can contribute later

This picture inspired me for an encounter (yes, I did steal both the idea and the pic from Jason Chan's website). One of the party males gets seduced by what they believe to be a beautiful Eladrin lady. They escape to a hidden copse of trees, and she begins to undress him, but as she reaches for his sword, he notices all the other swords littering the ground...

What's feywild?

>>17740916
One of the parallel planes of existence in 4e dnd's world. It's just like the mortal world (with the same laws of physics and magic and stuff) but super overgrown and inhabited by all sorts of super crazy fucked up faeries and monsters and stuff.

>>17740938
Sounds pretty fucking awesome

>>17740916
It's a living hellscape that dresses itself up to look whimsical and magical. In effect it's the random ass shit from Grimms fables, pagan folklore and Arthurian legend. It's the home of the faries and they ain't no fucking tinkerbells.

>>17740887
I have not. I'll have to see if it's up on /rs/. I'm particularly poor right now, and don't have the funds to pick up such a book.

>>17740894
This part is a little more extreme than I'm going for right now. I don't want to trap them in the Feywild, they're just traveling through. The main story is still in the mortal world.

On a side note:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbmcvV0hnDg

>>17740505
SO I'll try to dump something from my changeling folder.

>>17741031
Please do so. I'm starting to run out of stuff, so it is much appreciated.

Heroes go to Feywild. Heroes wander around a hedge maze of thorns that deals xp damage. Heroes get hungry and try to make a fire. Because they haven't made the appropriate contracts with fire, it doesn't warm them or cook their food, but will burn them. Maps and compasses are useless because they haven't made a contract with earth. When they start infighting, faeries show up to literally feed off the drama/xp. When they ask the faeries how to make fire and compasses work, the faeries offer to make a contract with them, but those always have a catch.

Realize Faerie *is* hell. Lucifer sold the Fae a piece of hell for them to do with as they like. The payment (teind) is 7 of their best and brightest every year. Which means if mortal heroes do succeed in overcoming the beautiful madness of Faerie, they suddenly become high on the list of "people to abduct and sell to Satan." Note that Faeries do not stay in Faerie. Even if the mortal heroes escape they could be hunted down in gray Earth. And they will be easier to hunt the more contracts they made with the Fae.

Feel free to include tinkerbell. Just so long as she shows up when they're mad at each other and acts like a fucking piranha, eating their xp, turns into an eldritch lawyer when you try to reason with her, and threatens to steal their future children in the gray Earth in payment, you've got the atmosphere exactly right.

Yes, I know much of this is guild wars concept art. No, I don't care.

>>17740962
To run Fae you NEED to read Changeling

>>17741060
I like your ideas of fire and compasses and stuff not working, and having to make a pact in order for them to do so. I think this could even extend farther into things like magic, steel, and sleep.

>>17741089
Forgot me picture.

And I'm all spent on good pictures. I'm still here, though, so don't stop the good ideas. I really love all the stuff you guys are leaving here.

However, in Irish folklore, the primary characteristic of the sidhe is not
that they are *evil*, per se, but that they are powerful and capricious, and
have ways of thought and action not altogether human.

Who are they? "Fallen angels who were not good enough to be saved, nor bad
enough to be lost," say the peasantry. "The gods of the earth," says the
Book of Armagh. " The gods of pagan Ireland," say the Irish antiquarians,
"the Tuatha De Danan, who, when no longer worshipped and fed with
offerings, dwindled away in the popular imagination, and now are only a
few spans high."

-- William Butler Yeats, "Fairy and Folk Tales of the Irish Peasantry"

Drives home what the fae are if nothing else.

ts of my stuff is kinda modern. Some of it is still useful.

>>17741089
HE'S GOT IT! Seriously dude, Faerie is a place where the laws of physics are owned by a cabal of beings driven insane with the boredom of immortality. Read the Changeling book, it has a compendium of lots of contracts like Omen, Hours, Vainglory, Summer, in addition to elemental contracts. Every single aspect of the natural world operates according to a contract in Faerie, with clauses and catches, and to make it even more complex, the magic of that place (the "wyrd") enforces contracts differently depending on whether they were made in good faith (the spirit of the law) or bad faith (the letter of the law). The fuel is the emotions of beings with souls, hence all the Fae's child-abducting and hero-tormenting, as they are soulless. If this starts to drive the heroes insane, then it's working as intended.

so for the sake of fun, what is the most fey-like experience you have had IRL? no need to BELIEVE it is anything supernatural, just... events that could be perceived as such

>>17741197
Having abusive parents? Think about it from the perspective of a 6-year-old: Parents are all-powerful and godlike to you and determine every aspect of your life, and yet are incomprehensible, cannot be reasoned with, fly off into rages, and pursue capricious desires.

>>17741197
well then, I got three tall tales!
when I was a wee lad I was spending a vacation at Water-island, my grandfather borrowed a house there. Anyways, up on the mountains there were these...patches of dead, dry white trees that my grandfather called the witch-forest. Once when we were walking trough them we heard this loud hooting noise (don't think there is any owls there, anyways, it sounded like someone blowing a giant bottle) my grandfather looked up and around him and said "must have been a Stubbgubbe (treetrunk-geezer)"
I miss that old man...

stay tuned

>>17741197

>>17741268
Another tale! I was not so wee anymore, nay I was big enough to go to school now, and early one winter morning I was walking the long, dark and lonely road to school.
See, up north in the world we do not get sun during winter. it is night all day round, so we have streetlights everywhere.
casting a long shadow from behind me was a big tree that I had just passed and t'was by mere chance that I spied in that shadow treetop a human figure. I froze for a second and the figure flinched, and crouched up, as if to prepare for a leap.
I noped and ran all the way to school.
Must have been my imagination or some trick of the light...surely.

>>17741197
I grew up in sunny, heavily urbanized San Diego, which has pretty limited wildlife, relatively speaking. My grandparents lived up in the sierra nevadas, and they had a pretty broad expanse of wildlife. The first time I ever saw a deer (at least, I'm pretty sure it was a deer), I didn't know what to think. It was probably about thirty feet away, and there were a lot of trees between me and it. Add in that it was very dark out, and I was probably about 5 or 6, and I swear for the life of me the thing was the size of a moose, with giant antlers and a shadowy form. I'm 24 now, and know damn well that's not what I saw, but I still can't shake how, at the time, I felt like I was being visited by some kind of ancient forest god from beyond.

With Fae, Pacts are the shit.
Not to stress it enough, read Chan

And by Changeling, I mean Changeling: The Lost, not the Dreaming

Also sorry for some fucked up posts. 4ChanX does that to me

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>>17741386
last tale, this one be short.
One summer afternoon or possibly evening, it is hard to say as the sun never sets during summer, up north, I was on my way home from who knows what errand.
I passed the old barn (which have been there since, like the 18th century or something) when I heard the most curious flute music. The whole situation was most queer, for I heard not a single car, bird nor bumblebee, even the wind was still, yet the unkempt lawn (more like forest) of the neighbour swayed gently.
I started following the flute music... but decided against it, because I have seen the movies, read the stories and heard the tales.
The fey won't have me, no sirree

>>17741389
I once saw a moose throw up
is this thread getting archived btw?

my car keys, cellphone, and wallet keep getting moved around to the weirdest fucking places in my house by faeries

>fucken fey...

This is how I Archfey

>>17741512
Bahaha! That's awesome.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/17740505/

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>>17741474
any more stories?

>>17741575
>hair is spiders
>FUCK HOW DO I MOVE
I lol'th

>>17741595
With that one, my changeling folder is used up. I'll try to look up more pics, but I cannot promise anything.

>>17741628
I see what etc.pp.

Not all pics may be what you want, I go by the thumbnail. But I also discovered that lots of the 5000 char art pics I downloaded yesterday look kinda fae-like.

>>17741774
This was such an awesome movie.

>>17741800
Everything I learned about Scandinavia I learned in the past year from watching their movies.

>>17741800

Could you fill me in on the title of this awesome movie?

>>17741845
trolljegeren - trollhunter

>>17741845
Trollhunter. It's fucking great.

>>17741774
>1774
>1774
Funny thing is that this portrayal of trolls really goes hand in hand with the mountain troll in Harry Potter 1.

Aw shit, son! I'm a whore for Changeling: the Lost (or any old folklore, for that matter), so this is gonna be a cash thread.

Other things to bear in mind with True Fae is to give them weaknesses to certain things. "Cold Iron" (Iron made without smelting steel, IIRC) is a traditional weakness, but other, odder weaknesses also exist.

A TF with armor like diamonds and teeth like knives cannot cross a circle of holly leaves. A beast of gnarled willow-wood and oozing thick sap dies if it gets stabbed by a knitting needle left out under a cloudless full moon. A cat as tall as a man with eyes like coal starts puking blood if it every tastes toad's piss.

Giving odd weaknesses (1) makes the scary tough Fae vulnerable, and (2) leads to all manner of weird PC ideas.

>>17742127
like knowing their real names
also:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlLjr6Q01qU
listen to the lyrics
is this changeling the song, or what?

>>17742208
This also leads into scary powers like stealing the heroes real names. Suddenly neither you nor anyone who ever knew you knows your name. And you can't just pick a new one either. Trying to get it back or get a new true name is just the sort of quest you can expect in Faerie.

>>17741608
>>17741197
I have one.

I was out camping with my dad once. I must've been about 12 or so at the time. We were at this old campground in Northern Ontario, just near the end of summer & beginning of fall, when the kiss of frost was starting to ease into the night air.

It was late afternoon, and - while dad had gone shooting the shit with some locals (Seriously, the dude knows EVERYONE), I was clambering about in some trees not far from the path.

I'd been screwing around all afternoon, talking to myself and playing through imaginary episodes of Digimon at the time, looking at the way the trees had grown (or had fallen) and thinking of what it'd look like for Agumon or Gatomon to clamber up them. Then I saw a face and froze for a moment, surprised in that I saw someone and thought I'd been alone

>>17742292
AND THEN!?

>>17742374
Then he was abducted and taken to Faerie, while he was replaced in this gray Earth with a fetch who has all his memories and thinks it is the real boy.

>>17742127
From the side, I saw a child-sized sleeping face the color of aged wood peeking out of a hollow in a fallen tree, with eyes closed. From where I was, it looked like a hobbit with tan skin and black hair, snoozing.

I wasn't sure what to make of it. I blinked a few times, and pressed a bit on the lower part of my right eye (this is something I saw from a James Randi-esque show, which recommended that - if you see anything weird that makes you think "GHOST" or the like, dither the eye. It'll affect the shape of the eye and cause the light hitting the image to distort, thereby proving that the thing you're seeing is likely "real" rather than imagined or an afterimage).

The image dithered - I wasn't just overtired or pretending I saw puppetmon.

I wasn't sure what to do them - the part of me which read up o folklore and herbalism and shit said to back away, since this was a 'sacred place' (I was seeing a nature-spirit or something), while my scientist side.was curious and wanted to get a closer look.

I turned my left pocted inside-out, just to be safe, while clutching a multi-tool my dad's friend had given me once (it had a knife in it, and I was pretty sure it had some iron in it).

I ambled over to the face, to get a better look.

>>17742431
Even as I moved, I already killed the magic.

Shifting my perspective immediately gave away the illusion - I was staring at a bunch of leaves which had been hit by the afternoon life, and looked like a face from the side. I went over to look at them, just to be certain, but it was as I saw - a handful of leaves, which had only looked like a face due to that stupid part of the human brain which knee-jerks into going "FAC" when it sees something remotely face-like.

I wasn't sure then whether to be disappointed that I'd "killed the magic" or to be proud that I was bold enough and curious enough to check it out (and be slightly sheepish that my rational 'scientist' side gave way to irrational flights of fancy. I played around a bit more, then went back to my dad as we got going with prepping dinner at the campfire, father and son. I didn't tell my dad about this, though - he's a skeptic through and through, and would've probably laughed at me if I told him.

It still stayed with me, though - that I saw that, and that I still went forward and checked it out and ended up choosing reason over wonder. I sometimes wonder what I might have done if I chose not to investigate and what that would'e meant for me as a person.

All I can say for sure, though, is - when I read the Changeling: the Lost Core rules, I had a slightly uncomfortable chuckle with myself.

>>17742540
they noticed that you noticed...

>>17742540

So, if perchance there is another person out there who find this story a little too familiar for comfort, and someone has a very different set of recollections of that day, I'm so sorry. Please, take no quarrel with me. You know as well as I - we're just too damned curious for our own good.

I'll buy you a beer- it's the least I could do.


On another note: have soem more delicious Fae soundtracks. Madka MAgica may be overrated as hell on /a/, But I think it's too appropriate not to share:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTniKDVctbA

>>17742587
Gawd, now I'm all hyped up over writing that. I hadn't even planned on doing Creepypasta, it just sort of happened.

Anyhow, here's some more good tracks from Madoka.

I use this as the theme for a particularly ehtereal Hedge-entity in CtL, if not a True Fae itself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5U4z9hs-dcQ&feature=related

And I use this to describe ANY time the players enter the Hedge.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqG7xdx-17E&feature=related

>>17740762
>>17740762
Does anyone have sauce on this picture? I love it, I need sauce! Please! Thank you

>>17742637
One final recommendation, OP et al, and then I'm through - try reading Charles Vess' The Book of Ballads, particularly their revision of Tam Lin. Tam Lin is a great story, and works well as a tie-in to something like this story >>17740910

Also, try The Books of Magic by Neil Gaiman. The trip to Faerie is right up your alley.

>>17742540
>ended up choosing reason over wonder
Dammit, no. Choosing to be sane does not mean you suddenly lose the ability to be awed, amazed, made speechless, or moved by the universe around you.
If understanding reality made a person lose their sense of wonder, we wouldn't have nearly as many scientists, or science enthusiasts.
With greater understanding should come greater wonder. It's raining METHANE on Titan right now. Do you realize how fucking awesome that is? There are bugs that produce chemicals for the express purpose of EXPLODING them in predator's faces when they get too close. Your nasal nerve endings have the closest connection to your brain, out of all your nervous system, and they get replaced over the course of a month by new ones.
You don't need to delude yourself into believing fairy tales and folk lore, or let yourself fall prey to your faulty heuristics and biases, in order to appreciate what's around you.

>>17742836
this

straw vulcans of the world, unite

>>17742836
there is countless of people who decided to take that one step over the border to the world of the fey... thing is...you never hear their stories.
guess why?

>>17742862
He's talking about reality. You are not. Its called a RPG because its fucking fantasy, not reality. You appear to confuse the two to the point you can no longer communicate with other human beings.

>>17742735
>Also, try The Books of Magic by Neil Gaiman. The trip to Faerie is right up your alley.

Oh hell yes, this.

Also, have you ever played any of the Thief games? The Pagans and The Trickster are aspects of that setting that would be really fitting for what you want.

>>17742885
sheez, you're no fun

>>17742917
Your sense of "wonder" is a series of cognitive errors so severe it emulates mental illness. You lose your keys and blame faeries. The only people truly capable of wonder are the ones who recognize that "faeries" are not real and do not actually steal keys, who study the human mind, and derive their sense of wonder from the origin and function of memory that sometimes results in misplaced keys.

>>17742862
I got a job standing by a sign for about a month, by a bus stop.
Believe me, there are plenty of people who have "taken one step over" and are perfectly willing to tell their stories to random people.
Fuck lady, I don't want to hear about your home on the other side of the universe, or how you can manifest your spirit to cure yourself of the common cold.

>>17742977

So basically what you're saying is that you don't believe in fairies?

People like you are the reason there are so few left.

>>17743002
>>17742977
holy shit, calm yo tits
we're just making shit up for changeling games, sheez

>>17742836
It's okay, guys. I watched Carl Sagan's Cosmos. I thought it was fucking cash. More than anything, the whole 'killed the magic' thing was a thought I'd entertained as a kid who'd not quite come to grips with his burgeoning materialist/atheist worldview. As I've matured, I've come to understand this much better than I'd done when I was a pre-teen.

I agree wholeheartedly with your point - that one need not be a delusional Wiccan hippie who believes in magic and pixies in order to find wonderment and awesomeness in the world.

I guess the point I was trying to make with that point (and I still do meditate on this from time to time) is that I am the kind of person who would shatter a cool illusion to figure out how it worked, and that there's nothing wrong with that - being able to think and to understand is so much better and empowering than merely being held in awe.

This story was true, BTW. I really did see something which I thought was a face, and was actually a bunch of leaves. It was impressive while I was "is that a PERSON?" thing, but after I found out it was "oh, another one of those 'thought I saw something' things."

I also once thought I saw a glowy pair of barghest eyes during a power outage as a rugrat; it was really bit of shiny plastic catching my mom's flashlight. Still, active imaginations amongst kiddies can lead to weird interpretations - I took this whole story about Face in the Woods as a sign I was growing up, particularly compared to the devil-eyes-in-my-bedroom or the time I swore I saw the Great Pumpkin.

>>17743023
You may be. I certainly was. But then some retard came in telling us that its all real.

>>17743043

except no one said it was all real, you obviously cannot spot a joke on the internet.

>>17743043
Otherscifag here.
No, that was miscommunication, and you trolling yourself.

>>17743025
Good on you.

>>17743061
Its obviously not a joke. Is this your first time on Earth? This Is What People Really Believe. Not a day goes by on /tg/ without someone who has to be told their RPG is just fantasy. This is especially true for the motherfucking sword threads, where every asspie on the internet thinks swords are Their Special Area Of Knowledge, but everything they "know" they got from D&D supplements and Disney movies.

>>17742705
Look up artist Aaron Diaz, it looks like his shit. He drew a webcomic called Dresden Codak, and -while it gets a bit pretentious at time with its transhumanist themes - it has some drop-dead gorgeous art.

Among other True Fae-esque things, try looking up the llorwyn/Shadowmoor settings from Magic: the Gathering. I played the block(s) when they were in standard, and - in addition to having great European fairy-tale/folktale fluff (PARTICULARLY the dark-world of Shadowmoor) the art for the setting is lovely.

Also, if you're not adverse to animu shit, the surprisingly good Princess Tutu has some excellent dark fairytale elements to chew on (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHZqxecCukg). Don't let the cutesy title put you off- by the time the Crow Princess shows up, shit gets REAL.

I liked this thread better when we were all just having fun

>>17743103

People believing they are knowledgeable about a certain subject because they play games with aspects of that subject are not the same as people believing in folk lore, and fairy tales.

One is just stupidity, the other is ignorance? Maybe even faith though I hesitate to use the word.

But seriously... you can tell by the wording, and the entire context of this thread that they guy was poking fun. You're just making yourself seem arrogant and self righteous by assuming that he actually believes in this stuff, and even if he does who fucking cares? Just you it seems.

>>17743185
Its neat how you're such a dumbass you enable and empower him, blame me, use words to mean the opposite of their actual meaning then tell me I can't read, and finally admit you're wrong. Shut the fuck up and remove yourself from this Earth so that you do not hurt another human being with your radioactive stupidity.

>>17743170
As do I.

I'm a little tapped out of good art/story recs for OP. Any ideas?

I'm thinking The Mr Norrel & Jonathan Strange novel, but I've not actually read it and so can't fairly recommend it.

OOH! There's a great (though unknown) Disney movie called The Watcher in the Woods. While it's a pure 80s girl-in-strange-new-town movie, it had some suspenseful stuff which works well for building tension, particularly among the normal vs fae worlds. Try and get the extended cut if you can, the FX for the Watcher were amazing for their time.

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I've only been coming to /tg/ for about two weeks now and you are the first asshole I have witnessed here.

Good job sir. I'll go kill myself now.

Also I am not the most linguistic fellow, and am well aware that I occasionally use words improperly, but that has little to do with you raging over someone making a joke, a fantasy based joke about the Fey, in a Feywild thread.

I don't understand why you would enter this thread. What is the big deal if people choose to hold a little stock in silly folk tales, they are interesting and make the world seem a little magical, I see no problem with that. If you think the guy blames fairies everytime he loses his keys then you sir are fucking retarded.

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Some people choose to enjoy folk lore, and fairy tales moreso over reason and logic, and this asspains you? I thought the people more ingrained in reality were suppose to be the more tolerant ones.

I believe the Feywild is all about perception. The Feywild is a mirror of the material plane, except sharper, more intense and misleading. Aromas and smells are much more engaging and at first may lead you into a euphoric trip but then drag you into a kaleidoscope hell. Rocks and ledges are 500% times sharper then in the real world and can cut as easily as sharpened steel. Flora is much more colorful, much more beautiful, much more subtly deadly. Everything is amplified, and much more majestic, noble, dangerous, and deceptive. I believe this phenomena is called the Bright Beauty or something.

There's also leylines, which the gnomes use to great affect. I used leylines to fuck with arcane users, if they were standing near one there was a 25% chance that the square they were casting the spell on would 'get caught up in' the leyline flow and change the origin square to a d6/scatter die combination.

As for encounters, I did a lot of 'classical' encounters, like trolls over bridges, the Headless Horseman, Three Blind Mice, and the Green Knight. Except the trolls fought on a bridge a 100 feet off the ground. The Headless Horseman was an undead centaur lich that hunted other centaurs and decapitated them, then when the Horseman 'died', he would hop into a previous victim and continue riding. Three blind mice were arcane wererats that asked the party questions and on wrong answers they would magically dim the lights. The Green Knight was a dryad that did ride by attacks and disappeared into the tree trunks.

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My (Irish) grandparents always called me the Changeling or Fetch because While my mom had red hair and dad had brown hair (both had hazel eyes) I was born with blonde hair and blue eyes. IMy hair turned brownish as I aged, and i shared similar body structure with some family, but I still look so different from them at the same time. Doesn't help that I've always felt at home in the woods.and forests near my first few homes.

I had a few games with the Feywild, and I used to of the experiences and stories from my grandparents in them. One had Druids being some of the children that the Fae would abduct from their cribs. They were entirely human, but because they were raised in the Fae, they were as difficult to reason with/interact with as other Fairies and such.

Another had any in game Druids/ some Rangers/ and Lycanthropes feel a strange kinship or connection with the Feywild and its denizens, like Teifling and Cambions would in the Hells/the Abyss. This aided in dealing with them at first, but them, but then after a while, side with the Fae and start some infighting. eventually they might abandon the party or find that they are not subject to the Wild Hunt because they are welcomed to join the fey in hunting down their former party. Who says only Evil gets to corrupt others?

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Dammit, forgot my picture.

>The Green Knight was a dryad that did ride by attacks and disappeared into the tree trunks.

Dear god, this is amazing. I like giving my PCs guerilla-style combat when I want to ratchet up the tension, and I love applying supernatural abilities to tactical combat.

Sirrah, I want to give you a gold star.

Also -while they are a pretty BS read and I don't recommend it for all folks wanting to go True Fae, Bruno Bettelhiem's The Uses of Enchantment and Robert Bly's Iron John provide some ideas on how to symbvolically look at fairy tales as aspects of a cahracter's psyche.

I don't know how much of a character-driven narrative OP's game is, but perhaps having a Wild Man fae live in the woods and be some enigmatic, dangerous symbolic father figure/stand in for a father figure might provoke some tasty, tasty drama. I'd particularly recommend combining the "Fae have weird rules" quirk and make it so that - if the PCs recieve this figure's aid, they have to do something like carve a symbol on wherever they lay their head that night, be it their satchell, the earth beneath them, or another PC. Make bad things start happening if they don't do this, like failed attacks or skill checks, or else weird bodily alterations (like moss growing on toes, coughing up sawdust, etc)

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Thank you! I will check out all the stuff that you suggested.

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Glad I can help.

I just wish I knew some more stuff that could be of aid to you.

Remind me again - the Feywild is particularly European themed folklore, right? Black Forests, wild beasts, temperate summers and deathly winters? I can't say I read or played much 4E, so I'm a little out of date on it.

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I found the picture I was looking for on Deviantart if you or anyone was interested.

http://fealasy.deviantart.com/art/Fallen-Ones-67129845

I wasn't particularly participating in the conversation at all, I just liked that picture a lot. Thank you again, I am still checking out Aaron Diaz's stuff and I like it a lot.

As far as the Fey, I wish I knew more of it's beginnings as well.

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I ask because there's some great stuff in Asian folklore that works well, too - the Japanese kitsune is a personal favourite of mine. These fox-spirits tends to fulfill the trickster role of Corpse candles or willo'th'wisps, but they can also assume human forms and function slightly like Succubi, only infinitely less LOL EVIL and more like mischievous (and even occasionally romantic) tricksters.

Perhaps the ol' succubus bait-and-switch might work with one of these (Beautiful maiden is rescued, starts fawning over on PC, gets alone time with said PC and start going all demonic level-drain sex on 'em), only replacing the nastier level-drain stuff with more Fey-themed flaws, like banes to certain armor types or indentured servitude to the kitsune until the PC can figure out a way to break the spell. Alternately, a more benificent version of this might offer the PC favours in exchance for favours like the first blood of every prey animal killed, or the like.

Two more things before I go to bed

One: read the webcomic Gunnerkrigg Court. It has amazing art in the later chapters, interesting characters, and a neat look at how Fae creatures would live and think in a wilderness world. What I especially like about it is how it demonstrates how one can have a fantasy setting without having to fall into either sword & sorcery or urban fantasy tropes - while fighting and violence do pop up on occasion, they're not a main focus of the story and many of the solutions of the problems the characters encounter are (IMO) far more interesting precisely because they choose a non-violent solution

two: there's a great game on Drive Thru RPG called Fairy's Tale which deals with a more sanitized version of fairies. While mostly a kid's game, it's got some interesting stuff on fairy culture and (especially for the dark fairies) has some good ideas to build into how a warped & whimsical world would look

... Maybe there's a way rationalize this psychologically speaking, but I am not a psychologist.

I prefer to get to the facts so here is the gist of it:
> age 5
> I befriend a little man who came out from the small wood in my back yard.
> Adult proportions, but about one foot tall. He is invisible in shadows, and would often hide in mine when other people were around. Sound like an invisible friend much?
> When we met, I asked his name after introducing myself (as my mother taught me), but he just laughed at me. So I called him John, like my old next-door neighbour.
> When I was 6, my 8-year-old sister saw me playing with him through the window, but then he moved and was gone, she says.
> When I was 7, I saw John significantly less. He just seemed to like me more when I was younger and asked fewer questions.
> I remember missing John when I was 8, but I moved on and hardly thought of him by the end of the year.
> When I was 22, I was visiting my hometown over the summer. I was biking through the (fairly secluded and wooded) park when I had to stop and stare, suddenly. Playing with a boy in the sand around the playground equipment, there was John just as I fucking remembered him! I started to laugh loudly in surprise, and before disappearing into the boy's shadow, John stuck his tongue out at me.

When I think about it now, I would have to be a fool to think what I saw was real, but I know what I saw clear as day. Call me crazy.

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>>17744336
>mfw I can't take this picture seriously because of how many shitty magic cards /tg/ has made out of it

>>17744431
Huh, haven't seen any of them myself, but I don't really look at Magic threads. Just always looks like something awesome to make an NPC or maybe antagonist out of.

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>fairly empty
not sure if pun...

>>17744431
/tg/ has made too many shitty magic cards out of half the images that circulate the board, and too many truly terrible cards out of the other half.
Let it go.

Creature: Imagine a rabbit the size of a large dog. Give it the upper body structure of a human. It can speak but it slurs it's words a bit. Instead of teeth or a tongue it's mouth is filled with writhing tentacles tipped with bone spurs which it uses to bring it's prey towards it's mouth. The eyes have no pupil or whites and are odd colors.

After a night of sleeping on it, I return with some more thoughts.

As a way to mess with the players, try and incorporate the whimsey-oriented fae in odd places. Stuff from CtL's pregenetior, Changeling the Dreaming, deat with faeries who try to keep everything cheerful and bright. Now put them in this in a way which makes them a scary contrast to the frighteningly monstrous True Fae we've discussed previously.

There was a chapter in Berserk where Puck (the little good fairy who heals the series hero, Guts) infiltrates the realm of the child-demoness Rosine, who made her realm as a magical playground. Puck started playing ball with the other fairies (the stolen souls of children, turned into Rosine's minions), and it seemed like they were having fun - until Puck caught the ball they were using and realized it was a human eyeball.

Perhaps something like that - where there are genuinely innocent and well-intentioned creatures who physically cannot percieve harm or misery befalling others and so - while they will be genuinely nice to the PCs, they lose all sight (and perhaps memory) of any NPC/PC who is slain or horribly injured.

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I could also be really scary if they are simply incapable of understanding the concept of hurt people or death, just treating them all the same no matter how the characters behave…

Does this make any sense?

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I think I get what you mean.

"Look at his horse's eyes! So pretty!"
They proceed to slit open the iris.
"Hee! It's all slippery in here!"

I personally like the idea of fucking with the PCs with genuinely nice but ultimately naive creatures, but that's just me

Do what floats thy boat, sirrah!