And so the epic tale continues

I agree, been reading this for a while and I have to say that it's very awesome.

Archived this thread, without the fucked up tags.

It says to put a comma there, whoever archived last thread. Get it together.

>>17611799
Why archive it so soon?

But anyway, showing my support!

>>17611987
because if I wait, someone will archive it and fuck up the tags again

OP, I really hope this becomes a regular thing, because it is freakin' awesome.
10/10, would read again.

Journal Entry 111

While we were getting ready to move out, a lone rider shows up with a white flag and hands our Warleader with some scroll. A formal demand of surrender. Terms are surrender and they'll only enslave the tribes. Failure to do so and it's death for all by command of king under the might of whatever god. The messenger survived but he got his answer carved in the corpse he's chained to. Dramatic but effective. The trip back to the main camp should be about two days hard march. We're ready for it. Said goodby to Wolfdale the farming community, soon it'll be in flames. Once we get to camp, and with the resources we got here, we'll hold out for the winter and start attacking come spring assuming Wolflake doesn't send an attack force. Well, time to move.

Alright, I need to take a break, I actually have a game to GM. Unrelated to this. I'll pick back up after midnight EST.

Ensuring the survival of one of the best threads in some time.

Let us return to talking about how much shit the orcs are going to wreck.

What's that? Mage MOUNTED CALVARY? Cav. Archers toss enough of the infantry's shit anyways, throw lightning and fireballs outa nowhere and you've got a iron plow on which the enemy will shatter itself. I jest though, OP seems to be portraying magic users as powerful in regular combat but not in larger scale actions. Now we just need railroads to drive the zepplins out of business over cost efficiency.

>>17614227
If the narrator manages to get himself into some position of power within the orc army, I imagine that he could persuade them to burn down the town they came from with relative ease. That would probably lead to the orcs becoming an unstoppable horde of doom though, which. . . Matches the slow descent of the party perfectly.

Journal Entry 112

Only a day out and we come face to face with one the Wolflake armies. They were on the way to sack our encampment while we were away, but we caught up to them. We have to go through them to get back and they are ready. We're about a mile apart, preparing for the upcoming battle. I'm in third wave again. The numbers appear even. My rough estimate is eight thousand each. The Wolflake army is mostly wearing heavy chain armor and brigandines lots of greyish blue and are using big tower shields. Lots of long spears. I think that they're moving into multiple phalanx formations. Fuck. I wish we had more magic users on our side. The only place that had any great number of them was Aeyllin, each side only appears to have a handful. A handful of casters and one telepath. Marcus has been playing his best courage song to the tune of “We will rock you.” The Orcs have gotten into it. It's fucking inspiring. Mike is as ready as he'll ever be and Jason is getting hyped. I hope someone's watching over us because this is going to be insane.

Yes! You've returned once more.

Well this is interesting. Your latest post has vanished. I have a copy of 113 in case you do not.

>>17615489
I noticed that. He said he edited mistakes once before so hopefully that's what he's doing

Journal Entry 113

It's been a few days. Where to begin.. It began to snow at the start of the battle. It was almost cinematic. I used up both magazines of my gun. 16 bullets. After that, it was the sword. It's not easy adjusting midswing to try and hit the holes in their armor. Sometimes I would try and get a few seconds by making them see something else, or just mentally knock them silly. I felt a lot of people die that day. We lost. The cavalry smashed upon the phalanx's flank like the ocean and shattered their defenses. It looked good initially. Then they each were systematically separated and slaughtered, one at a time. They went in way too early. By the time the front line got there, the phalanx reformed. We must of killed half of their force, but we lost almost everyone. I met up with the others. Marcus had taken several arrows but was good enough to move still, Mike was out of magic but had avoided injury. Jason's blind in one eye, a spear got lucky. He was alive but bleeding everywhere. I was still unharmed but exhausted by then. We decided to make a run for one of the other warcamps to warn them and get medical treatment, magic or otherwise. We were caught by a patrol and I was run down by a horse, trampled and speared. There was fighting but then everything faded out. I only remember blackness after that.

>>17615506
Yeah, 113 and 114 were originally going to be one post, but it got so huge I had to split it, and that caused some problems, plus a lot of other errors. It's been adjusted.

Journal Entry 114
I woke up naked and tied to a rack. The survivors dragged me back. I guess I was still alive. I was healed and to be tortured, repeatedly. Not for information, just to make a point. For fighting for the enemy. Any information was just icing. There was only two of them. The cleric and some archivist? The archivist was taking notes it looked like in a huge book. The cleric never got a chance to turn the wheel. I made the archivist think he was with me. He murdered the cleric and set me free. Then stole anything of use from his mind, then erased everything. A mental format. I stole some clothes and managed to find my things nearby, spread across a table minus my sword. The Kindle was turned on. I wonder what they thought of it. I used one of the cleric's spare robes and managed to get out of the dungeon by making the guards think I was him. I left the hood up, so I only had to manipulate the one looking at my face. I escaped and now I'm in town. Welcome to Wolflake.

Problem solved I suppose.

008 I really must commend you on the amazing story you've presented us with. I've been following it since you started and it keeps getting better. Thanks for sharing.

-Ceryle

Journal Entry 115

So I have no money, Mike had the money. I'm hiding out in one of the seedier inns. I..manipulated the innkeeper into thinking that I had paid him in advance for a few weeks and that I was an old friend and certainly not the stranger the guards are looking for. I got a nice hot meal and a warm bed for my efforts. From what I got out of the archivist, the others were not captured and may still be out there. Meanwhile I'm here. Wolflake is a much larger city then I expected. It's certainly no village. It's as large as Aeyllin at least. All plaster and wood structures, stone walls. It's divided up into districts by use. The smithing district is in full production for the war. The market is bustling but a sense of apprehension is thick in the air. Residential is quiet and constantly patrolled. Lots of anti-orc propaganda. The town crier is constantly going off about them murdering babies for food and raping everything with legs. I did the old taser in the alley trick to get some money, not much, but enough for some new clothes. Trousers and tunics. Oh baby. At least they're clean.

I'm a bit curious as to how a warlock can be out of magic, but then again it sounded like a brutal battle. So I'm guessing pure exhaustion.

Hope the others in the part are alive...

Journal Entry 116

I recognized someone today. I was in the market, grifting someone, when out of the corner of my eye I see Avery, dressed in the robes of the sun church. What the hell, what is she doing here? I stayed my distance and followed her for awhile. She went into the local Sun church. I asked around some of the apprentice clerics hanging around outside about her. She arrived in town two months ago to help in the war with healing. A call went for help in the Orc war and she left Rosenbridge to volunteer. They don't know anything about Alex though. Apparently Avery's become a very devout believer in the ways of the sun worshipers. She has become an accomplished healer as well. She's still considered an apprentice but is moving up in the ecclesiastic ranks. I'm going to try and make contact with her tomorrow.

>>17615524
>-Ceryle

What fresh hell is this? Either namefag up or stay anon, signing your posts is just fucking retarded as shit.

Journal Entry 117

So I met up with Avery today. I just walked up to her while she was out doing her rounds and Surprise, it's me! I surprised the shit out of her. She was ecstatic to see me. So many questions. We found a nice outside cafe and had a long talk. I told her of our adventures to Winterfield, to Aeyllin and back. I left out some things of course, she doesn't need to know our part in king slaying, grand theft everything and child abandonment. She said a prayer for Amanda and Dan. After so long, she assumed that we had all died. She joined the church after a vision, and because she believed she had nothing left. Alex recovered fully and after talking with some spell slingers, found he was more suited for sorcery then wizardry. I could be wrong, but doesn't that require a special genetic background to use? He got some instruction and can throw around spells now. Apparently has trouble keeping control of it and accidentally caused some property damage. He headed off to Aeyllin a little before she left for Wolflake, to learn to control himself better. If my math is right, he was arriving as we were leaving. Assuming something didn't slow down his trip. According to Avery, Alex had been hoping to find us there, he never gave up hope. As for the others, they were shipped to the Wildlake slave pens. Something will have to be done. Anyways, I let Avery recharge her laptop and ipod off my charge stone. She was giddy. Unfortunately, she doesn't have any new movies.

Journal Entry 118

Met up with Avery again for lunch. She put two and two together over the course of the night and realized that yes, I'm the “baby murdering orc lover traitor spy” that escaped from the dungeon a few days ago. She confronted me about it. I wasn't going to lie to her. So then a Paladin showed up and sat down at our table. I felt very uneasy around him. Avery said wasn't going to turn me in to the king, but I was going to be “arrested” under the church and held in protective custody until this war is over or they figure out what to do with me. So I went. I'm not going to fight her, there aren't enough of us left for us to be turning on each other. They let me keep my things. I don't think Avery even knows I have a pistol with me. She did take my journal though, and read through it. I just got it back. She can't decide if she should be furious with me or not after all I've done and all I've suffered through. I think she was more incredulous that I've been documenting it in detail. It's a good thing she doesn't know about the things I didn't document. She is adamant, however, that I need to pay for my sins. Maybe I do. Maybe I'm not done sinning. Anyways, we watched Strange Days and then she left. My “cell” is a plain stone room with a plain bed, a tiny window and some church iconography. It's not exactly tiny and I'm not imprisoned here, I can walk around, just not leave the wing.

interesting development. also, i was on my phone yesterday but i wanted to say that it was a pretty good idea to have that replicating bag for making new bullets.

>>17616198
Why not have the replicating bag make more ipads?

So Avery knows about the Narrators psionic powers? I wonder what sort of measures she has taken to ensure he doesn't just walk out? Maybe he just doesn't have any guards.

>>17616212
MIND = BLOWN

Well, I doubt she would take many honestly. I mean, even if he did horrible stuff he's still the closet thing to a best friend/non-genetic family one could have in this setting. She would probably worry about the others though, but I doubt she would worry about him harming her unless she forced him to.

>>17616212
Alternatively, make more guns.

>>17616212
Small objects only. Think coin purse. The narrator has been using it to make more ammo.

>>17616237
>>17616212
The dupe bag is small, barely large enough to hold the bullets he's making. It would of been something made originally to dupe gems or jewelry or for magic experiments and enchanting work. The journal writer just found a better use for it. That doesn't mean there aren't larger ones out there, this is just the one he managed to get his hands on. Otherwise he'd of been duping whole gun magazines instead of one bullet at a time.

Keep up the good work, OP. Been reading this since you started at #1 and keep coming back for more.

>>17616267
Or entire guns, so that the entire Orc horde was armed with real firepower.

>>17616307
same here. Loving every minute of it.

lurking

Journal Entry 119

Well, I was in that place a grand total of 21 hours according to my mp3 player. The longer I was there, the more.. claustrophobic I felt. Avery came to see me in the morning and we talked about what I was doing with the Orcs. Told her my side of things and I may of convinced her that this was isn't about good and evil, it's a landgrab. Come lunch time, she was off doing church duty and I had decided enough was enough and walked out. Poked a few minds to get my way, but I didn't hurt anyone, for Avery's sake. I left her a note apologizing. I'm back at the inn. Not feeling so claustrophobic now. I need to figure what to do. I'm stuck in Wolflake with the guards and now the sun church looking for me. I bet the rest of my team think I'm dead on the battlefield. Thinking back, getting mindraped by Skinhead Mctattoo was the best thing that happened to me on this world. She opened some doors for me. Without that, I'd be truly fucked. At least I have some options. I'm going to poke around town tomorrow and see if I can find anything useful.

Journal Entry 120

Hey, this city has an airship port. I have an idea. I just have to wait for the airship to arrive. Anyways, managed to grift some money and browsed the market. News from the war. The surviving Orc hoard managed to sack a few supply caravans and a farm, everyone murdered, dead strung up, babies eaten, etc etc. Between the lines, I'm glad they're still fighting, they haven't given up yet. Picked up some rumors. Apparently the royal castle's been enhanced by a thieves guild turned traitor and even they haven’t been able to break in since. There goes that idea. The city gates are locked up tight, only allowing trade caravans in, and anyone not expected gets arrested. There's also the curfew. So yeah, this place is under marshal law. Whispers on the street is that there are some freedom fighters skulking about. I took a look into it that and anyone that knows anything is a toady for one of the noble families, the Rheingrafs. I can't tell if it's an elaborate trap, or a manipulative attempt at a backdoor coup. I'm going to take a risk and dig deeper.

Journal Entry 122

So while #1 is baking, I'm seeing about Target #2. A Madam of a brothel. High class establishment, all the girls are magically purged after every use, silks everywhere. She's been using her girls to gather info on dissidents. I paid a visit. Went for a ride around the block. I'm going to try greed with this one. Maybe she's not getting paid enough for the information. Maybe there are people who will pay more. Maybe she deserves some political favors for all the good she does for the nobles she supports. Nobles that she saved with her information. She looked pretty lost in thought on my way out. We'll see how that works out. In other news, it's time to move out of the inn. Avery left a note on my bed ordering me to return for my own good. No surprise paladins or anything this time. I've since moved in to an abandoned tower residence on the seedy side of town. Not a lot of room, but it has a clean bed I can use and privacy.

How much of his stuff did he get back? His gun? His duping bag? Obviously he has his charging stone and his kindle.

Journal Entry 123

I guess I won't get a chance to find out how my experiments are doing. An airship is in town, a small cargo hauler from Hebiry, one of the main trade hub cities along with Rosenbridge and Wildlake. Airships always draw crowds, so I went over to poke around a bit. The last two airships I've been on used a magic dongle was required for any of the navigation stuff to work. Flying one looked easy enough. Who would have the key? The Captain of course. Found him at the picking up chicks at a tavern after he was done unloading. He didn't have the key. It's locked in a safe on board the boat. I did get the combination though. So I am going to traipse over there, think my way aboard, take the key and fly away. Grand Theft Airship. Fuck yeah.

>>17616873
When he ended up in the dungeon? He only lost his money and sword.

>>17616896
After he got charged down, but you answered my questioned just as well.

Journal Entry 124

Clearly I was drunk on success. So I get to the airship pad and SMITE. Paladins. Clerics. Avery. She guessed I'd try and escape. She read my journal again. I am in a lot of trouble. I'm back in the same room, but now I have this thing on my head, some kind of leather band that I can't take off. If I move then a few feet from the church, pain. Avery says it's only pain because I've become evil and it's the church's god influence burning away the at the evil. She says that once it stops burning me, I'll be good and can leave. I feel like a child that's been grounded. She confiscated my gun and my charge stone, so I need to see her now to keep my stuff running. To make matters worse, they're all, all of them, wearing glowing temporary tattoos that are blocking me off! Fuck.

Alright, that's enough for tonight. I'm going to crash and will resume when I wake up. Until then Gents.

>>17616982

I love where this is going

>>17616982
. . . This doesn't look good.

I sense Avery getting a "compulsion" to remove the headband.

>>17617041
>wearing glowing temporary tattoos that are blocking me off-

Didn't see that did'ya?

>>17617062

I didn't understand the wording, no.

>>17617281
>Most of the paladins are likely facing life in prison for their savage crimes, and the king will likely be executed like the scum he is, but all non-combatants will be spared. The orcs just want their homes back, after all.

Where's the bard & warlock?

>>17617436
Didn't get captured. Probably still with the orcs

>>17617486
Well he needs to get them quick. Also I haven't heard much about the thief, what happened to him? He still training to be master thief back before the Orcs?

loving this! so damned awesome. dude, repent and convince Avery to go with you and collect the others. RENOUNCE YOUR EVIL WAYS AND BECOME A CHAMPION OF JUSTICE!!!

>>17617553
I don't think that's in the characters nature. He's pretty much NE right now, he's doing stuff for himself (and for the Terrans). No amount of LG antics will get him to a tone, he still thinks that the Terrans are better than these people. He just wants to get home, but is constantly getting pulled into these dangerous situations where he's barely escaping by the skin on his teeth.

She's had it good, she was protected by LG Sun Church. She was sheltered, given luxury, and joined them living the good life while "spreading" the word. The Narrator it seems to be constantly on the run, from barbarians, orcs, guards, or w/e. Only good time he had was in the University.

I need moar god damn it

the narators done good and bad, if he hadnt stepped up and used his mind powers to slap some sence into the orcs they may well have become the baby eating butchers that the town criers claim they were. considering that the N was going to be tortured to death just because, I cant help but suspect that the pow camp may get chopped to bits and swept under the proverbial rug. i am a bit suprised the goddy two shoes sunworshiper didnt react to her "side" torturing prisioners to death just for fun.

>>17618081
They're EEEEVUL though. They obviously deserve it.
/sarcasm
Hate hypocritical Good-aligned characters. Fingers crossed that the psion can get her to actually think for a few seconds.

i think the narator is cn/tn with the good acts brobolds ect equaling the bad tasers ect (bar regicide which 008 hopefully shows the reprocussions of) i see the narator as an alright guy only doing evil as a last resort

>Avery. She guessed I'd try and escape
>Avery says it's only pain because I've become evil and it's the church's god influence burning away the at the evil.
>She says that once it stops burning me, I'll be good and can leave.

Okay, that was the last fucking straw. I understand that she kind of wants to help you, I understand that she thinks you need to be saved. But a fucking torture device to "make you good"?
No, thats fucking it, as soon as we get that thing of our head, its MINDWIPE-TIME for her. If she forgot that we're all terrans and sitting in the same boat, she deserves to forget everything about being terran.

Turn her into a vegetable.

The Sun church seems overpowered. They have temporarily magical runes to completely negate a psions abilities? They've what amounts to proximity based slave collars. Presumably they have 'divine' protection from anything 'bad'. Why have they not conquered the world in the name of 'good' yet? I mean, from the looks of it they're certainly not against brain washing.

I'd say the same about psions, but given the presence of magical anti psion tattoos, this kind of removes them from the equation.

Good antagonist though 008. This would play out even better, assuming the portal creator was an arch devil or something; whom was, ironically, 'good' by contrast of the Sun Church.

>>17618178
helping the kobold found new chicago is major good points in my book. they/he could have just fucked with them and run off, but instead helped them find a way of life that dosnt involve dozens of them dieing in an attempt to steal some one elses food.

>>17618274
look at real world churches. they have money and lots of it, they can get their hands on damn near anything if they really want it, and this is in a world where there is no proof of god or raising the dead

So Once this gets farther along You should see about getting a few copy of this printed out as a book. Or just selling it e-book style.
AKA I want to give you money.

D&D alignment is flawed, should do away with it. Detect Good/Evil should be renamed Detect Good/Evil intentions. Smite/Bane law/evil/good/chaotic would be smite/bane alignment intentions. So if you're thinking of something chaotic, or doing something chaotic, you'll be smited by someone thinking of lawful or doing something lawful.

Or just do the Eberron thing. Where alignment doesn't matter, the LE Vampire King is trying for world peace while the CG Queen is trying for world domination. The LG/NG Church went on a genocide against Lycanthropes and Shifters just because their were a few bad apples. Red Dragon has just as good chance of saving you, as the Gold Dragon as to eat you.

>>17618300

Ya, but they don't have magical anti problem tattoos. They're insane; don't have anything 'divine' backing them; and are waning.

>>17618300
True, however this place is isolated and they only sent out a few clerics/paladins. They don't seem to have a major church here, and I don't see how a group of small missionaries will have A.) Magic tattoos that protect them against psionic effects, B.) Immovable torture band that "burns away the evil".

I wouldn't call for a retcon, but I'd have the narrator describe what happened as like a "vision". Telepathy and Precog go kinda hand in hand.

>>17618347

Have you ever seen any of the old chapels in parts of Europe? Relics everywhere.

And judging by the size of the city, it wouldn't surprise me that a church building would have the information necessary to deal with a psionic threat.

Also, Entry 121 seems to have disappeared

>>17618932
Psionics is suppose to be rare, and mysterious. The academy only had a handful of students, small enough to sit in a circle to mindrape each other.

121 IS missing, wtf, I know I posted it, someone even responded to it. That's missing too. Reposting! Also good morning.

Journal Entry 121

I talked my way into a meeting with these freedom fighters down at the slums. Not very organized. Their plans were odd, probably orders from on high with no context. They have a list of people that need to be dealt with, and I don't mean killed. Publicly humiliated, disgraced and so on. Replaced in a way that won't draw undue attention. Their methods leave something to be desired. Dirty rumors and name calling more or less. I have some ideas on how to deal with this, but is this actually going to help me in any way? Well, it keeps me occupied and I can experiment so I gave it a shot. Target 1. There's a tavern keep in the market district who runs The Wolf's head, that needs to be ruined. I paid a visit during his slow hours, cased the joint. He's a retired adventurer, hard core supporter for the king and his policies. Gives discounts to off duty military. They call him Screaming Howl of Wolflake. Some based around one of his adventures in the earlier Pacification war years ago. Know what else screams? Babies. I put in the niggling fear that it's an insult. That maybe everyone's been making fun of him behind his back this whole time and having a grand time about it. Taking advantage of his ignorance for cheap booze. I'll let that bake for awhile and see how it turns out.

Back on track.

Journal Entry 125

So my imprisonment in the church. Avery has been spending her breakfast and dinner with me, we sit and discuss and debate. She has admitted that if she had gone with us to Aeyllin, she'd be in a similar state. If she'd take off that damn tattoo, I could show her, right in her mind. But no, I can't be trusted yet. She's very naive about what's going on out there. Being locked up in a church and surrounded by like minded people all day skews perspective. Divine group think. So yeah I'm bitter. So a little after breakfast, a Paladin walks over and backhands me across the room. I think he broke my nose. Then he heals me and tells me to keep my hands off Avery. Calls me scum. The works. Leaves me there crumpled on the floor. I think he's jealous. I mean, I'm not going to mess with her, even if she's the reason I'm here. She's like a little sister to me. Either way, I need to get out of this fucking place. This is an intolerable situation.

>>17619953
>So a little after breakfast, a Paladin walks over and backhands me across the room. I think he broke my nose. Then he heals me and tells me to keep my hands off Avery. Calls me scum. The works. Leaves me there crumpled on the floor.

WHAT A DICK

Journal Entry 126

Know what there is to do around a church all day if you're not a member? Sit around and do nothing. Self reflection maybe. Not for me. I have made it a personal quest to find ways of fucking with the paladins. All the church members meet up in the afternoon for their prayer service. That's when I work. Moving things around, hiding things. Rearranging. Sure, it's stupid little pranks but what else am I going to do? I did get some news from my two experiments. The Tavern owner's gone over the deep end and has barred military and even guards from using his place. He may even be behind a minor poisoning of some guard captains. The Madam wasn't as successful. Word is, her backers decided to give in to her demands. How did I find this out? The freedom fighters found me when one of their members were in for magical std treatments. I may of gotten the attention of the Rheingrafs from my work.

>>17619747
I saw two 119 and 121 then I manually refreshed after reading >>17618932 and they were both gone for me too.

Journal Entry 127

News from the war. It sounds like the Orc cavalry is getting its shit together. The town crier is starting to use the throw around the horse mounted demon card loosely now. On the other hand, it sounds like they lost another major battle. The orcs are winning the skirmishes but not the large scale battles. Heavy losses on both sides. Most of the church personnel have been called away for healing and the occasional resurrection for any dead war hero nobles. This would have been a grand opportunity and Avery apparently came to the same conclusion, so I've been leashed. I have a chain around my leg that's connected to my bed post. I have about 20 feet of slack. Just enough to make it to the “bathroom.” Chained up like an animal. This is going too far. This will not stand.

>>17620149
>>17619747
Should have worked that into the story. That someone had stolen the page from the journal.

Journal Entry 128

I have escaped from the church. The idiot freedom fighters decided to break me out while the healers were away dealing with war casualties. I managed to get the things Avery took from me. Found my pistol under her pillow. What the hell is that all about? So they unchain me, get that stupid pain crown off me and we make our grand escape. Right to one of the Rheingraf holdings, a decorative cottage near the market. A guest house. One of them was there, all dressed in more layers of clothing that was necessary, even with the cold weather. They want me to work for them under their house spymaster. They didn't offer the position. They told me. People with my skills are few and far between apparently, and they think they can get a political advantage with me under their spymaster. Oh, and escape is nigh impossible. The spymaster can just up and disappear whenever he feels like and for some reason, I can't touch his mind. He's no telepath, he's just impenetrable. He put some kind of magic link on me, so he knows where I am at all times. So I'm still a prisoner, the chains are just invisible this time. I'm a commodity rather then an animal. Wonderful.

>>17620443
Still better than the religious nutjobs.

I think it's time someone started building bombs. LOTS OF BOMBS!

>>17620443
All he has to do is put a bullet in the spymaster's face, he's already beyond the point where killing isn't an option.

Journal Entry 129

So the Rheingrafs. They run half the trade caravans in this kingdom, started as an imports-exports merchant family that got lucky back during the last pacification war and earned themselves a noble title from secretive war profiteering that fucked the other side's logistics. They've tasted power and want more. They are one of the richest noble houses in the kingdom, but have the least amount of political power since they're relatively new to the scene. They have the money but not the connections that the other nobles have. Their secret backroom handshake deals have been few and far between. My new boss, the spymaster, was imported in from the afar and is obscenely loyal for some reason. He's one of the elf ethnicities. I bet he was programmed. People don't get this fanatic for nobles on their own. At least I hope not. Might explain why I can't touch his mind.

>>17620643
Find a way to free the spymaster!

>>17620673
Doubt he wants to be freed.

Anyways, if one of his talents is as rare as they say he is, this might not actually be a bad thing. Working for a noble house could be pretty posh (but again, that assumes that his talents are rare enough that they'd consider his requests and that they can't just break him).

Journal Entry 130

So the spymaster took me in to the field today now that I got the house history down. This mainly consisted of puttering around the market while he checked his contacts and me making sure that they weren't holding back anything, and the both of us beating the shit out of someone when they were. Half his network is compromised in some way. He's stealthy as hell, but not too good at running a spy network. Ran into Avery. I'm under noble protection now, so the church can't legally touch me, as long as I'm not performing profane undead rituals. Within the city walls anyways. She's upset of course, but I think I got the point across that I am still in danger. I need to get out of this fucking place. I hope the others are still alive.

>>17620755
Was she wearing the tattoo still? if not, he could have 'shown her' like he was talking about doing earlier.

Then again it might be illegal.

>>17620776
Illegal? Why would that matter, most of the things he's done so far have been illegal. Besides, if they were back on earth the things she's done to him would be a one way ticket to jail for at least half a decade.

i would love to see the effects of one of the characters dying and being reincarnated/resurected having them know they died and the afterlife (and also the possability of sexy elf chick if reincarnation)

>>17620755
How many of you would have burned the church down after what you went through?

I would have.

>>17620827
Because if he does something TOO illegal the noble house he's being held by may have to give him up to face punishment.

Journal Entry 131

After all this time, I still wake up some mornings thinking it's all been a dream. Nope. Still here. So we have begun a process of kidnapping compromised members of the spy network and instilling some loyalty. Through mind rape. Mind rape and beatings. I'm actually disturbed by some of this shit. I'm rewriting parts of these people's lives in a few of these cases. It's incredibly draining too, to the point where I started bleeding a few times. I haven’t done that in awhile. Needed a few rest periods to recover. I'm still looking for some way to escape this situation without drawing too much attention or ire. Wandering town is easy enough, the guard long gave up looking for the escaped prisoner and they didn't even have a good idea of what I looked like or any personal information. I'm still a fugitive from the church, but that's on hold as long as I'm under the Reingrafs. The church has kind of taken it as a personal insult that I keep escaping them. Initially I was just Avery's pet redemption project. Now they've convinced themselves that I'm some kind of criminal mastermind that's insulting their god and shitting all over everything they stand for. Yeah, their magic tattoos have worn off, but their motivations are too deep seated to wipe away in passing. It would take a whole mindrape session to clear that away.

>>17620991
Then mind rape them. If I was in the same situation i would have turned them into vegetables.

>>17621016
You make it sound so easy. It's not like there's only one of the church to worry about, and after he gets the first couple the rest would probably notice. Plus, his stamina and prowess aren't infinite.

Mine rape takes time. It doesn't take much time for the rest of the church to power up their smites and holy laser arrays.

>>17621016

Not to mention if he goes around mind-raping important people, it's just going to bring the whole 'psion" thing closer and closer to public attention. It's kind of not, right now. Unless the author keeps a low profile, he's going to get assassinated by other psions. At best.

Think about it. If he acts like a script kiddie that thinks he's untouchable, all he's going to do is teach the authorities how to counter some very powerful people who are very comfortable playing it smart and keeping it cool, and don't want to lose that for anything.

Journal Entry 132

So I got brought along to some royal ball the King was hosting. It wasn't in the castle, no, he has a whole separate building for stuff like this well away from the castle. The Rheingraf's wanted me there for information gathering. Nothing too intrusive. They were all there, dressed in their latest fashionable imports. I had to wear some absurd outfit with multiple sleeves and feathers. There's music and fancy noble food, most of which I wanted nothing to do with. Stuffed mice, various bird tongues, some kind of bone pudding. At least they had seafood. I can deal with that. Lots of alcohol, elven wines, dwarf brews, some rare Margarita knockoff from the south. So the party took place in some huge ball room with lots of mirrors. Mirrors are pretty rare, so this is some kind of show of wealth. There's more to it though, I was sensing people behind the mirrors. Watching. The King never made a public appearance. He may have been one of the ones behind the mirrors. I did hear some gossip, picked some minds. Apparently Winterfield is a huge mess. With no royalty, the advisers tried taking power and then one of the Generals seized control and tried forming a military junta. Last word anyone's heard from them sounded like a civil war was about to kick off with the barbarians approaching. They did get another airship though. Someone else must of noticed the gap and filled it. Anyways, after the party I dumped all the info I got on the spymaster, and he's been sorting through it for anything relevant.

Journal Entry 133

I managed to escape! Freedom! I can feel the proverbial collar slip free of my neck. It feels so good! So the spymaster took me out of the city to run the loyalty test on the Rheingraf cattle and horse farm. Some of the news we picked up at the ball seemed to indicate that there was a skim going for one of the other houses. That place apparently was a recent acquisition and maybe old loyalties die hard. So we get out there, it's less then a mile from the city and pretty safe, has regular guard patrols. The workers all come out and look scared as shit. Word's gotten around. It suddenly occurred to me. The guard patrol won't be around for another hour. It's me and the spymaster, some farm hands and the farm accountant. Bang Bang. He took one in the head and one in the chest. He falls over and then just up and disappears. The workers scattered to the wind. I ran in the other direction. I have a general idea where the Orc war camps are, I'll head there and see what ever happened to the rest of my team.

>>17621693
Recurring villain? Recurring villain.

>>17621778

Personally I think the church is going to be the primary antagonists.

>>17621834
Oh, I agree. I just suspect we might see more of this guy.

Yeah, people just don't dissipate when they die. He's still alive, and probably pissed as hell. Although I have to say, I doubt the journalist will take kindly to the idea that he may have to empty a whole clip in someone's head to actually kill them.

Undead Spymaster?

>>17621984

Or, even if he is dead, the Rheingrafs now know that our narrator has flown the coop.

>>17622052
Betting he was a transformed outsider. Most likely loyal because he was bound by a pact.

>>17622312
Then his death would've most likely unbounded him, which in that case he would most likely view the narrator more favorably for "killing" him. Assuming he can be killed, and not just sent back to his native plane of existence.

008 I was wondering, could you possibly give us some information on what the folks that were captured are up to, if they are up to anything. I mean they surely can't be dead, and written off like that, perhaps they too discovered something and got out. It'd be funny if the group of adventurers that they bumped into after setting up New-Chicago was actually them. Just that the narrator and everyone else can't remember what they look like.

They were just with them for not long before they got caught. The cleric chick could've lasted longer on him, in his memory because they did stay in the church for a while longer before escaping again.

>>17622368

as the journal writers knows stuff, so shall we

>>17622368
Hate to tell you this but... Well, they got sent to the slave pits in that one town where the journalist first got his powers.

>>17616050
>Slave-Pit Exposistion
>>17622407

>>17622368
I haven't decided what happened to the three in the slave pits yet. They aren't dead. They could possibly be a side story later on if we don't get around to meeting them again. The only other one is Alex, and he's in Aeyllin by now and attending the university.

>>17622557
Can you give us a list of the names, and their status. I'm horrible with remember names.

Journal Entry 134

I'm camped out in a small cave in a ravine. I didn't think this through. No food, no water, it's starting to snow. Sure, I could try hunting with my pistol, but I have no knife. I managed to start a fire using some tree branches, dry leaves and my taser. I should have enough wood for the night, but it's so cold. I'm going to try melting some snow for water once enough falls. Hopefully I'll reach a camp tomorrow.

Alex: At Aeyllin. Sorcerer, Wild magic
Marcus: Bard
Jason: Rogue
Mike: Warlock
Journal Writer: Psion, Telepathy build
Avery: Cleric of the sun church
Dan: Dead
Amanda: Dead
Ian: Arrested. Slave
Max: Arrested. Slave
Austin: Arrested. Slave

>>17622704
>I didn't think this through.
Yeah, you were at a horse farm and didn't steal a horse to ride away on. That was pretty silly.

>>17622784
Or a knife, or food, or sufficient clothing from the sounds of it.

>>17622728
OP, you are a magical man. Maximum-est brofist to you.

>>17622784
a lot of the journal writer's plans have been short sighted. That and he doesn't know how to ride a horse, especially not the local ones that have been trained in local ways.

Journal Entry 135

I lucked out and stumbled into one of the Orc patrols. They had heard of me and I was dragged back to the war camp and put in front of the High Command. I was presumed dead and put out of mind, and now I had to convince them I wasn't a spy. That took awhile. I gave up as much information as I could on the situation at Wolflake. Afterwards, they set me loose on the camp. I found the others. I'm glad to see them, and they the same. They thought I was dead when they left me behind in their retreat. It sure felt like I was at the time. They're doing well. Marcus has some scars he seems to think will impress the ladies. Mike's doing fine but he's pale as a sheet. Jason ultimately lost his eye, but one of the camp spell casters gave him a replacement. More or less a Ruby jammed in the vacant eye socket. He says he can see better then fine with it. It's creepy as hell to look at though. I told them of my time in Wolflake, about Avery and her news on the others, about the Rheingrafs and my escape. We watched Strange Days. I'm about to sleep. I'll find out how the war is doing from this side's perspective in the morning.

I can only imagine how the rest of the group is taking Avery's "going native."

Fuck yeah, back with the bro-orcs. Maybe now he can introduce something like lamellar armor. Roman/Mongol orcs. Terror of Faerun or wherever.

I'm pretty sure that the "Evil" races (Orcs, Kobolds) have been the most reasonable--and maybe even naiive.

The humans and other "Good" races are unreasonable and manipulative dicks. Fuck those guys. (Although that does explain why they are dominant.)

Ruby for an eye. Cool, but really creepy. Wonder if he can exchange it for other gems... Cause I wouldn't doubt him changing it out for some magical diamond or something.

>>17623250
Crossbows, thermite, gunpowder, Fragmentation grenades (gunpowder+clay pot+glass filling), trebuchet delivery system. He could bring them all the way up to WW1 level tech if he really applied himself.

Journal writer had best get that tracking spell taken off him by friends/orc shamans before the enemy exploits it. Could be trouble otherwise.

>>17623338

What the Orcs really need is a better grasp of guerilla warfare.

>>17623340
or use it to set up ambushes. They're in the mountains. When Wolflake sends its army to crush the 'main camp', they get suckered into a ravine, avalanche+archers=war of attrition.

>>17623338
how do you make thermite?

>>17623338
I feel this is mostly because the 'evil' races have a tendency of being fucking desperate. The good races feel they can afford to be more arrogant.

inb4 the Journal Writer is the BBEG in OP's game, and the story being told is his Start of Darkness.
He'll bring forth the 'doom' prophecised by the oracle in Aeyllin/Ayellin/Yaglhahmahgah who will eventually sic the PCs after him.

Or something.

>>17623381
At simplest? Aluminum+iron oxide (rust). Powder both, ignite them, get lots of heat. A magnesium ribbon is usually used for ignition, but is not necessary to the chemical reaction (any other similar ignition source could be used, i.e. fucking magic).

Coming by Aluminum would be difficult, because aluminum refining is a very energy-intensive reaction.

Journal Entry 136

This is a war of attrition. The Wolflake armies are winning the battles but taking such heavy losses that they can't easily resupply, especially with most of their ground supply lines broken by the Orc raids. The Orcs on the other hand, have yet to have a decisive victory. The battles are usually routs with most of the survivors retreating. They can bring in replacements easier, mercenaries, but that can't go on forever. The cavalry is adapting nicely to the stirrups, but there aren't enough of them to make a big difference, and they've been taking losses from the enemy phalanxes and archer lines. Since I've last been here, they managed to get some artillery. Catapults. They've been using them to launch tar covered, burning hay bales in to the phalanxes during the opening salvos. Too bad we can't get our hands on some “alchemist's fire.” It's some variant of greek fire/napalm. It's apparently hard to come by out here. They also just got a shipment of specially trained war dogs. Big nasty things trained to go after anyone with the Wolflake symbol on them and follow verbal orders. I got a new sword, a longsword. It's seen better days. The blacksmith described it as “experienced.”

my sword is experience

>>17623508
>Coming by Aluminum would be difficult
Major understatement. Aluminium was considered a precious metal right up until the industrial revolution.

>>17623520
>robot futa waifu
ALLOFMYMONEY
Playing with her joystick would be so much fun!

Blackpowder is easy and everyone should know how to make it.

Charcoal, sulfur, saltpeter (potassium nitrate.)
15%, 10%, 75% respectively. Add fire and BOOM. Put some in a thin, studded iron ball and you've got a frag grenade. Enjoy.

>>17611378
What was the name of that comic again? I remember looking at it awhile ago, but forgot to save the link.

>>17623886
olgaf.

>>17623886
Oglaf.com

>>17623514
If they help invent the stirup, why not try to introduce horse archery? That'd be next logical step. I'm sure you can convey the basics of a re curved bow, and how to shoot it on a horse. That'd make short work of the phalanx. Also don't Orcs have dark vision or something, they could do night raids.

>>17624075
Going from concept to R&D, then through prototyping and into mass production, then training an entire military to use something effectively... it's not a short process. Months minimum, more likely years- bows have to be cured, you know. Events aren't occurring on a timescale that makes that feasible right now.

I was the guy in the original thread. The one that demanded that the whole idea become a quest thread. I was going to jump on the idea if no one reacted. The next post was 008, effectively calling dibs by starting the story off. Now I missed my chance.
Feelsbadman.

>>17624133
Fuck the po-lice and do it anyway (in a different setting, obviously).

I was considering doing a quest like this and then realized I had way too many other things to be doing.

rolled 95 = 95

>>17624133
Yeah, I agree with >>17624152
Do it anyway!

>>17624095
True enough, they can be taught the basics still while the war is going down. Usually during winter is when both parties camp out, and do training and what not.

Still the stirrup seem to have taken off. Too bad they don't have the wild mage, he could've been useful.

>>17624180
Hmm... sweet. I'll do some writing and see what I can come up with.
But let's not jack 008's thread. He's done an amazing job.

rolled 42 = 42

>>17624219
Well, yeah, if you're gonna do a quest you should start new thread

Alright, I'm going to take a break, I have a game to GM. I'll pick up again in 4-5 hours.

>>17624292
Yea. There's three viable characters to start a quest thread on. The one's enslaved, they're not doing anything. Also it'd be funny if the narrator somehow made everyone forget his name including himself, just calling himself the narrator/journalist.

008, this thread is good and you should feel good.

>>17624324
The journal writer has a name, he just doesn't write it down, that and I haven't bothered to think one up. The only ones that have names written down are the Terrans. Even reoccurring characters are referred by description or occupation.

>>17624324
Are you actually going to take his setting, his characters and make a fanfic? At least use an original character.

>>17624324
>>17624427

He's right. Leave 008 continuity and characters and think up your own! Or let the players decide who the main char is going to be and what s/he will take (although you'd have to put some limits otherwise they will make some scientist super-genius will all the modern tech stored neatly in his head or something like that).

The setting can be the same though.

>>17624427

I agree. The premise is good, modern people trying to cope in a magical medieval world. But branch out a bit, maybe the journalist isn't magical for instance. Maybe he had a specific, applicable trade in the modern world. Maybe a lesser used type of magic?

Don't just take this setting and play in it, make your own! Not like you need to know everything, just enough to get started. The rest will follow.

>>17624595
A prohibition era sleuth would be a cool character to throw into a fantasy world. In fact, any character from a time where no one read fantasy novels would be fun.

>>17624634
A hard-boiled PI down on his luck thrown into a magic world? Could be pretty damn awesome.
If the DM can pull it off and write the whole thing in Noire style, that would be amazing. (of course that is not necessary)

>>17624674
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiGKxCAg_0o
>my mind when that
He'd be able to really make a difference in murder investigations and such, with his rival being some cleric

"Your honor i have significant proof that That Man!"
>points at the defendent
"Killed his wife in cold blood over a domestic dispute, that she didnt make him dinner."

>Cleric walks in
"I summoned his ghost, the guy says the mailman killed him."
FFFFFFF

Bumping.

bump

Journal Entry 137

It's been a few days. I have been sent out with a raiding party of about 30 mercenaries, mostly human. We're sacking a trade caravan heading in from Kinild by land. I almost feel like a bandit. We're camped out off the side of the road under heavy brush, snow, in ditch and waiting. It's pretty boring. A few of the guys are light sleepers and taking a nap, even though it's bleeding cold out. The rest of us are keeping ourselves entertained with war stories while watching the road. We have a few two man patrols making sure no one is sneaking up on us. No idea how big this caravan is, or even what it's carrying, just that there is one. One of the mercs has some heating stone, stays a new warm temperature he's been using to keep his hands warm. I gotta get me one of those. My Terran compatriots are back at camp. They're learning to ride horses. I feel all left out. It's kind of funny. Our big plan was to get to Rosenbridge and free our friends and they aren't even there anymore. Alex would of just missed us, Avery's gone native. The others are who knows where and probably in a bad situation, as they were slaves last Avery heard. I guess the next goal after this war is the Wildlake slave pens and then where ever they've gone. I'll be pissed if they got sent to Winterfield or Aeyllin. Running in fucking circles.

During an earlier run of the "portal to fantasy land appears, what do?" threads, there was someone who sounded off about starting a tabletop game using that premise.

He went camping with his pals, and started running the game there. The PCs were the players, carrying all the stuff they brought with them to camp, but displaced into medieval Poland or wherever it was that he was.

Yay, your back. Wouldn't going after Alex make more sense though? Doubt he's going anywhere soon because of his learning in Aellyin. Then again, probably a time frame on the others in the slave pit, so best to get to them quicker so as for them to not be sold...

Journal Entry 138

We ransacked the caravan all right. 10 guards, 20 or so merchants, staff and passengers. Most of the guards went down, only two surrendered and they didn't even put up a fight. Our prisoners are being stripped of valuables and being sent to another camp to be ransomed back. Our cargo haul looks to be food supplies, smithing ingots, spices, what I thought was mage reagents, clothes and a chest of gold coins. Bribe money? Taxes? But why is it heading towards Wolflake? I felt I had to know. So I poked around in some of the survivor's minds. This caravan was a shipment for the church of the sun worshipers from one of their larger central cathedrals. They don't do their own caravans, they use third parties. Whoops. If they ever find out I was involved in this.. I can't let Avery read my journal next time she catches me. Part of me is worried, part of me can't stop laughing. So we're heading back to the war camp with our riches, should be a two day ride. We're certainly more armed then their original guard retinue. Wait, why was the church getting money? They operate on tithes, cleric services and don't pay taxes. The caravans drivers don't know anything about it. Something's funny.

>>17627089
If you know that just dont keep the information in your journal!

>>17627089
I find it kind of funny that he assumes he is going to be caught again.

>>17627188

It really is a fairly safe assumption at this point. Look at the journalist's track record up to now. He has been captured more times than a flag on a CTF map.

>>17627089

Personally, I want to see him help Avery see that she's been brainwashed.

Really, now. Sun church? Torture a viable means of making people good? Un'lawful' (here it's legit, but the church is kept out of the legal system (officially) for a reason IRL) arrest and detainment? I'm no 'religion bad durhurhur' type, but you can't help but think this might be a bit shady.

>>17627253
>Sun church
>a bit shady

>>17627298
PELOR THE BURNING HATE or Zarias you think?

Journal Entry 139

I'm learning to ride a horse. We're still on the way back. I've already fallen off twice, luckily didn't get injured. No stirrups of course. So I've been thinking of what else I can do for the war effort. Just to tip the balance. I'm sure Jason and myself could rig up some kind of scale model trebuchet for them to learn from, but that's more of a siege machine then battlefield artillery. Maybe the Chinese repeating crossbow, but I don't actually know how that works. I really don't want to introduce gunpowder. It's easy enough to make, they have most of the ingredients back at camp. Hell, we have the ingredients to make some here in the reagents crates in the caravan we're taking back. Anyways, the Orc cavalry is already starting to experiment with horseback archery, maybe the OH FUCK.

>>17627017
The GM was a she and they were a bunch of polish engineering/ Chemistry students. I wish the guy telling us about it updated that but all we got was a taste then he left. I think the name of the book they got the idea from was " an engineer post in time" or something.

>>17627341
why would he write that?
must not be too OH FUCK worthy.

>>17627253
Oh god I can't believe I just did that.

>>17627371
>I really don't want to introduce gunpowder. It's easy enough to make.
>the ingredients to make some are here in the reagents crates from the caravan

That's a good question really. I'd of figure that if it was something serious it would just be half of something written, with a jagged ink line to indicate something bad. Then again, we don't know what kind of "OH FUCK" it was. Could be a "Oh fuck, not this shit again," or an "Oh fuck this is awesome!," but chances are it's an "OH FUCK WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT."

>>17627425
Oh! good point.
That bitch.

>>17627425
Oh. OH! Avery, you fucking bitch!

>>17627341
>Gunpowder ingredients in crates, author is writing suddenly OH FUCK!!!!!

>Camp is being shot at by cannon.
>SHITJUSTGOTREAL.jpeg

>>17627492
Also on that note, it seems the SUN God is teh BBEG, so imma go with Pelor the Burning Hate.

>>17627341
Well it seems that the Church whore is introducing advanced tech to the local so i guess the author need to show them how-2-assault rifles.

>>17627490
HO SHIT

Good call. Avery's officially a Sun Whore.

Rape that fucking city sideways.

>>17627516
Going with this. Even with only rudimentary knowledge of gunsmithing, the Narrator should be able o invent breech-loading Howitzers, at least.

>>17627500
go go pelor the burning hate, kill everyone and everything.

>>17627341
and thats all the motivation required for orks to be taught how to make tanks.

Journal Entry 140

I met with the others soon as we got back to the camp. I dragged them over to the caravan and we went through the materials. Between the ingots and reagents, we figure there is enough to build one simple cannon and fire it multiple times. Does that mean the gold is to pay a smith to make it? What's going on here? Maybe it's coincidence. Maybe Avery told them things she knows this world isn't ready for. If this was to be given to the Wolflake military to copy, that would be very bad. Okay, so what right do I have to decide what technology the locals can and can't possess? They have magic. At the same time, I've already been irresponsible with handouts. I'm conflicted. Anyways, I gave Jason the go ahead see if he can't help the camp bow maker invent the recurve bow while the rest of us figure out what to do.

>>17627564
I personally want the author to personally kill the bitch Avery. I think it would be VERY fitting.

>>17627557
Tanks are not in the cards right now. They dont have anywhere NEAR the industrial base or discipline to do that, but i dont see cannons and muskets as being too far out of the equation.

>>17627564
>Orc cavalry with stirrups and recurve bows versus religious zealots with primitive cannon

fuck the cannons, how can we make railguns in D&D? i know we can do it, i've seen threads

>>17627675
That's the peasant railgun; it requires several miles of peasants and some rules from AD&D.

Well, obviously only one thing to do. Show the orcs how to make a cannon. They could actually make the cannons out of a tree trunk if needed, although I bet that would take longer than casting one out of metal...

>>17627675
That would be the commoner railgun, made by lining up thousands of commoners in a row and having them pass an object to each other ( a free action). You can actually get that up to relativistic speeds, if you have enough commoners.

>>17627691
>>17627707
no it involved using lightning bolts to charge plates and involved real science, not just taking advantage of game mechanics

>>17627742
Well in that case I have no fucking idea what you are talking about.

All I know about railguns is that it involves magnets, and electricity. 'Bout it. OH! Maybe the narrator, when far enough into the future, could do Tesla right and set up giant Tesla coils. Although they would probably be magical Tesla coils.

>>17627760
I remember the thread >>17627742 is talking about. You'd have a wizard conjure two iron rails and launch a projectile using a maximized empowered lightning bolt to supply current.

Involved a debate as to whether it would work or not.

>>17627790
Hm, don't remember that one, but from my limited knowledge of railguns, I would say they require more effort than just pumping them full of energy.

>>17627825
which is where the collective knowledge of /tg/ comes in

You need a magnetic field in addition to the current through the projectile. You can get it with current but you would need coils in addition to the rails. Having seen a small railgun setup I think arcing might throw the rod off.

Fuck me, I can't find it in archives. Either it didn't get saved or I am a retard.

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/archive/index.php?t-66396.html

not the one i saw on here but still related

Whoops. I think it was not arcing the but the magnetic field that was doing now. You can't bunch up too much with the magnetic field generation is the issue.

Journal Entry 141

The recurve project went bust. The bow maker doesn't have the aptitude or creativity to get what we're trying to describe. Maybe we need a proper artificer. So we went back to the drawing board and had a long talk. If Wolflake is going to have explosives, then so should we. We aren't going to give them cannons, but we are going to give them gunpowder. We'll show them how to make a ceramic or wooden barrel grenade. Something they can fire from their catapults. Something simple. We'll let its usage evolve on its own from there. There's the high probability that someone is going to blow themselves up from this. Mike and Marcus are mixing the chemicals now to produce the first batch. I've had a lot to think about over the past few days. We're making a bigger and bigger impact on history as time goes on. Is this what we were brought here to do?

>>17627925
Is THIS your card?

I fail at physics. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railgun.

>>17627987

That's the one, friend. You are a gentleman.

Addendum: I suck.

pathfinder's bestiary 3 had a cannon golem

how would we go about making a railgun golem?

>>17628082
YES

>>17628082
Cram an air elemental inside.

>>17628148
We can just make a new thread. Threads are infinite in supply.

>>17628173
Post scaristy 4chan.

Journal Entry 142

Well, we held our first demonstration today. We made a small prototype using a clay jar, filled it with metal shavings from the blacksmith and packed it with black powder. We found a nice safe place and set up some of the training dummies complete with scavenged Wolflake armor. We had Mike light it from his maximum casting range and all took cover. It took a minute before it went off. The Orc's first reaction was that it was just a fireball spell anyone could use. Then they examined the area. The armor shredded from shrapnel, wood pulped, some rocks destroyed. I think they got the message. These aren't toys. We have enough ingredients to make 20 more of the hand variants, or 5 big ones for the catapults. They wanted us to make the big ones. High Command doesn't consider us just mercenaries anymore. We now have bodyguards.

>>17628225
Archimedes. Da Vinci. Tesla. Edison. The Wright Brothers Currently Unnamed Journal Writing Guy. Time to go big.

>>17628225

Bodyguards!

Moving up in the world!

Although I do understand the worry about moving along technology faster than it should, specifically weapon technology, I don't see much harm in releasing agricultural technology, or medicinal.

All of this just seems to put commoners on slightly more common ground with wizards. Just slightly though.

>In before the Journalist screwed up and was drawing too much from the caravan, Avery never introduced cannon technology. Until the gunpowder bombs hit, that is.

>>17628225

Journal Entry 143

I'm pretty sure Marcus has developed a relationship with a half-orc girl in one of the Orc supply caravans. Every time they show up, he vanishes for awhile. Doesn't he remember what happened in Aeyllin? God damn bards. So we have our catapult bombs. We sealed them with wax and buried them in crates near the armory with clear markings so some idiot doesn't accidentally blow the whole thing with a torch. It'll take a directly aimed fireblast to trigger them now. Maybe. We'll dig them up when it's war time. In other news, still learning to ride a horse. I don't even know enough about horses to describe it's breed, or Earth approximate breed. All I know is that it's brown and named Medley. I have no idea why. It certainly doesn't sing.

>>17628270
>Thomas Edison
What? He doesn't deserve being on the list with the others.

Its gonna be really funny when it turns out Little Miss Sunshine isn't actually giving them bombs--or weapons of any type.

>>17628302
Isn't he the one that burned down Tesla's lab and set back human technological development by decades?

You can create a primitve slowmatch by soakinng cord in saltpeter, and quickfuse by soaking a cloth tube in pre-corned blackpowder that has been mixed into a slurry

>>17628317
Don't forget that she knows that the writer has given out how to make stirrups. If she has any understanding of how important that is, she may have felt that gunpowder is a legitimately equal gift of knowledge.

>>17628317
Oh she may not be giving them up willingly but this church has its hands in far too much mindrape to unconvince me they got the info out of her through...less than willing means.

Journal Entry 144

Winter is in full effect. We had a blizzard today. Everything's frozen. At least our camp was set up to avoid the harsher winds. Not a lot to do while sitting around the fire, shivering. So I started asking questions. I was wondering why the Orcs never use their own Phalanx formation in the war. Many different answers. Simplest answer? It's not their style. They don't care much for the long spears and big shields and tight formations. They rarely use shields and if they do, it's always something small like a buckler. Sure, they can withstand physical trauma better then a human, but really. Their tactics are more suited to smaller scale tribal conflicts, which makes sense. That's what I've observed so far. Not so good at war, pretty good at skirmishing. It fits their tribal mentality. If these guys ever get organized into a proper civilization, they'll be a real force to be reckoned with.

Didn't that other chick's ipad have a ton of farming and avricultural information? The chick the barbarians killed. Journal Guy even briefly laments that she hadn't shared it. Want to give the orcs a logistical edge? Give them the info to outproduce the humans, feed all their people and sell the surplus for a profit. You're looking at a lot of extra food if we're comparing medeival agriculture to modern. Even without mechanization, one farm like wildlake could suply the entire Orc army.

>>17628394
And then bring in loads of mercenaries with the promise of reliable food sources and lots of money from the profit from selling the crops. Brilliant!

Between outnumbering the humans with loads of mercenary volunteers (there's a distinction between drafted-and-paid captives and actual volunteers in a combat situation - volunteers acknowledge the risks and are more willing to actually get out there and fight), and the regular food production, they could win the war hands-down through both superior numbers and sheer logistical strength.

Now that I'm thinking about it, and another anon mentioned it, I really doubt Avery gave up the knowledge for how to make a cannon willfully. She doesn't seem like the type of person to teach others how to make something of mass destruction. She seems more like teaching them ways to live better, not kill each other better. So if she did give the knowledge to them, I highly doubt it was willfully.

>>17628523
She DID pretty clearly get brainwashed by the church, as I said in >>17627253

Wouldn't be hard to assume they grabbed her, got what they wanted, and then pushed her into service with the clergy to keep her under their thumb and make sure it 'took.'

>>17628523
I'm thinking that this is another symptom of the Narrators sociopathy, and he likely going to be called out on it later. He's becoming paranoid.

Journal Entry 145

Well, Marcus got drunk, sat down in the middle of camp and sung the entire 50 States Capital song followed by the most hilarious dulcimer rendition of Barracuda. We quietly dragged him back to his tent. I'm good enough on a horse now that I went out on a mounted scout patrol. Important or not. I needed to get out, even if it's freezing cold. I was kind of babied along by the others. Us Terrans have become well know. Just like in Aeyllin. Speaking of that, I wonder how the invention of the bicycle is going. Anyways, nothing new on patrol. We left sunrise and came back sunset. My hair was nearly frozen, even with a hat.

>>17628563
Hey, I wonder if we'll be seeing ball-point pens replace quills in the recent future.

He should have good that infinite lumber town about wood pulp paper making.

Journal Entry 146

It's cold enough that my pen ink is starting to freeze up. I've been having to hold it over a fire for a bit to get writing again. This may be the last Entry for awhile. We're hunkered down and practicing for war, holding mock battles and when we're bored, snowfort fight with the goblins. The trade caravans to Wolflake have apparently stopped for now according to our intel. This world doesn't have a Christmas. What a shame. This kind of hit me hard, because I realize how little I've thought of my friends and family back home. I'll never see them again. Us Terrans have pretty much become my new family. At least there's that.

Journal Entry 147

The Spring thaw is finally here and the ink in my pen has defrosted enough to use again. The war camp is packing up soon and we'll be on the march. It's time to get this war underway. So, in the interim, I've gotten better at horse riding and sword fighting as has Jason. Mike learned some new tricks and Marcus...got his dulcimer tuned. Both metaphorically and not. Anyways, it looks like our precautions on our catapult bombs worked, they're still dry. Good news with that. Our scouts report that Wolflake is already on the move and that they have people with them wearing the iconography of the sun worshipers on them. Fucking fantastic. I knew it would come to this.

been following all day. keep it up. this war is getting interesting. the integration and invention of new tactics and tech is fun to follow. also the moral dilemma fun to read.

I'm stuck at work until ass end o the morning. This is really brightening my nifht. Thanks again, 008.

>Our scouts report that Wolflake is already on the move and that they have people with them wearing the iconography of the sun worshipers on them.

KILL THE WHORE

KILL THE WHORE

KILL THE WHORE

That damn bitch sounds like she is trying to set up a Sun God master race.

>>17628834
Man, that is really an unnecessary level of hostility towards someone who is ultimately not really trying to hurt the protagonist. Yes, she's misguided and working against him and kind of brainwashed, but she's still a Terran and she didn't kill him or take more drastic action when she had the chance. Multiple chances.

Paladin guy needs to get knocked the fuck out the next time we see him, not permanent coma style knock out just like half an hour.

>>17628853
You're absolutely right.

In retrospect, I retract my 'KILL THE WHORE' statement, and instead redirect all of my energy towards a swift kick in the ass, followed by a stern talking-to, in order to help her see the error of her ways.

Immediately followed by stabbing some other bitches.

>>17628806

I'm in the same boat man. Overnight shift at a gas station. This has been making my night feel like It's going by at a nice pace.

Journal Entry 148

Our first major victory. The battle of Wolfgate, a tactically important fort right in the middle of the kingdom, right on the two main trade roads and supplied by the river and nearby farms. We met the enemy army and they immediately retreated to this area, a better position for them? So we're lining up and they're getting into their phalanx, we're about even in numbers, at least ten thousand. Spellcasters burning everything they have in the opening volleys, archers firing in high arcs. The sun worshiper paladins and clerics start going through their wounded and bringing them back up. Then we unleashed the catapult bombs. We did the math, checked and rechecked the angles. 5 fired, 5 explosions, shrapnel everywhere, right in the middle of their formations. Fear and Panic in the air. Chaos. Then the cavalry and the first wave hit with their war dogs. It became a one sided fight. Wolflake tried retreating but were cut off. Prisoners were taken, wounded taken care of. Jason and I spent hours going through the dead looking for Avery. She was luckily taken alive. The battle traumatized her. I'll visit her once she's recovered and we'll see what's what.

>>17628867

girl needs a good spanking.

but that paladin fucker needs to die.

>>17628903
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!

>>17628908
For breaking protags nose and having the hots for Avery?
He needs a swift kick to the dick but nothing more.

yes. Avery is alive. i await the encounter.

>>17628834
>>17628842
>>17628859
>>17628867
Let's not be hasty. We know about that damned pain-crown, right? See if the Shaman can put together something similar: an empathy crown. Then when we take the whore prisoner, we have her 'serve her sentence' healing the sick and injured in one of the 'pacified' orcish communities, feeling their pain and anguish. Include amuzzling enchantment so she can't speak or justify sun-church's actions, just heal and feel. Six months of work in a death camp created by the people she thought were righteous should be enough to break her faith.

>>17628925

very swift. so swift his grandkids will feel it.

>>17628903
VICTORY.

>>17628940

THIS!
THIS!
A MILLION TIMES THIS!!!

>>17628940
You want to enslave someone for six months of forced labor while keeping them muzzled. Someone who caused the narrator a few days of inconvenience and pain through some well-intentioned foolishness.

Consider the concept of proportional retribution before suggesting these sorts of things, would you?

>>17628960
Neckbeards gotta live out their harem fantasies

>>17628381
Huh, I wonder if it will ever get to a point in which the writer will ever have to tell the orcs that if they don't change that they will lose.

>>17628960
This. The poor girl's just been through her first battle, something the Narrator's gotten used to by now. She needs to be spoken with, calmly and carefully, and then given some options.

Maybe they can make her switch sides.

I'm telling you guys, every grievance can be corrected by applying sufficient kinetic energy to the groin, including women.

>>17628960

revenge is a dish best served cool and ironically.

>>17628960
It's not a matter of revenge. It's a matter of breKing her faith. She'd be freer than he was when she kept him caged in town. She'd be forced to confront evidence that the side she'd chosen was the greater monster in this conflict. And the only person she could talk to about it would be herself. Nothing forces moral clarity like being trapped with yourself.

Or, more likely, forcing her into that kind of bondage would just push her farther into the grips of the Sun God. People like to have something to hold on to, and in that kind of situation, I can easily see her becoming even worse.

Except this isn't a quest thread guys :V

>>17629022
>>17629005

ahh the workings of the human mind. I say we watch and wate to see how this unfolds

Journal Entry 149

We have taken Avery into “Terran Custody.” Marcus, Mike and Jason were excited to see her, and we all sat down and had along talk around a fire. Avery was furious that we leaked gunpowder to the Orcs. I countered with the captured caravan with the cannon ingredients. She claimed to not know anything about it, just that a new and important church weapon was being delivered. And she was telling the truth. We all sat in silence for awhile with that reveal. Someone else leaked cannon design to the church. Either Alex or the others. This is not good. So I informed Avery that she is a prisoner of war and in our custody, and that I was going to take the moral high ground and not chain her to a fucking post or shove a slave crown on her head like she had done to me. As long as she's with us, she's under our protection. Let's see how she likes it.

Journal Entry 150

Stop reading my fucking journal Avery!

>Then stop leaving it out for me to read!

>>17629005
She doesn't need breaking or a forcing of moral clarity. Her biggest problem is naivete. She needs to be exposed to the way that things really are while having the narrator near her to provide advice, company, comfort, and sympathy. A light touch and kindness generally accomplishes far more than heavy-handed dickishness.

And it doesn't involve torturing a fellow Terran over useless shit. So what if they disagree over serious and fundamental matters; they shouldn't be hurting one another because they're closer kin to one another than anyone else on the planet. Express that feeling openly and forcefully, and it will help matters, too.

>>17629043
OK, I laughed.

>>17629028
Speculation is fun.

I would think that there's more then blind faith on the side of Avery, remember she was keeping a gun under her pillow when the writer escaped.
Could be something more there.

Also, Paladins of the Sun?

>>17629043
Lol'd.

>>17629054

more like paladins of the douche amirite!

>>17629068
Can you detect the irony in this post?

>>17628842
>>17628867
I guess I'm just having nightmare flashbacks of that Reverse Chivalry paladin story we had about a year ago. But you're right. Horrible level of naivety. Gotta break it sooner or later.

Now that we know it wasn't her, that doesn't leave a lot of suspects. Alex had contact with the church. And remember the whole "this healing has a price"? He probably gave them information as payment, not having anything else.

Holy shit.
they just started a medieval arms race with gunpowder.... this cannot end well.

>>17629100
We know psions are about. If one of them js working with or backing the church, they could have pulled it from Avery or Alex's mind while they were in church custody. Or one of the enslaved Terrand could have offered it up as payment for his freedom. I'm sensing layers here. Distegard my previous statements about punishment. This may go deeper than we're seeing.

>>17629115
Not only that, but a medieval arms race involving religious nutjobs. Its Alpha Centauri all over again, only the Believers have a tech advantage.

>>17629183
Well.

This won't end well.

Journal Entry 151

We've reaped anything worth value from the fort and it's surrounding lands and burned it all to the ground. We then made for the highlands to set up our new war camp while we prepare for battles to come. Avery has not taken well to hard marches. I don't suppose you get a lot of exercise when most of your day is spent on your knees. So we are trying to figure out why the sun church threw their hat in the war. Possibly for massive political favors and/or donations? Maybe a chance to become the head church of Wolflake? Avery has been completely blind to the politics running rampant through Wolflake and was shocked to find out she was being shipped to the front lines with her fellow clerics and paladins to lend support. Our camp paladin, follower of one of the warrior gods, wanted to listen in on this and even he agrees that it doesn't make sense for the sun church to of joined up like that. Even he isn't here on official business, he's here because this is what he does. The sun worshipers aren't warriors, at least that's not what they've been preaching.

>>17629204

>I don't suppose you get a lot of exercise when most of your day is spent on your knees

I want to make a dirty joke about paladins here but I actually like Avery...

>>17629183
Aren't the church a little behind, though? They have no remaining captives to give them more tech, and unless they can mind-rape like psions, they probably didn't get much out of whomever told them about gunpowder. The orcs and other races have more standing with the terrans (assuming that the church chick does actually change sides) since the terrans mainly follow journal guy's lead, and will not likely be happy that the church decided to kidnap and imprison him.

The church's best bet is either the sorceror in Aeyllin (spelling?) or buying some of the slaves from the market in exchange for info. Gives journal guy even more reason to find them, so he can keep the arms race down.

Of course, the church has had gunpowder tech for longer, so they'll have had more time to experiment, and since church chick wasn't the one who told them, we don't know quite how much they know yet. Makes sense the person telling them would try to keep as much secret as possible though, to provide better barganing later.

Also, I want to eradicate the church now. Believers got on my nerves so much in SMAC, with their constant demands for tech.

Journal Entry 152

We have gotten new materials and produced 10 shrapnel bombs for the catapults. Carefully sealed them and have them in a safe place until we need them and have them under guard. Avery hasn't tried escaping, she's rubbing it in that she can take her punishment and won't go running off at the first opportunity like I did. Yeah, she isn't chained to a post either, or getting punched around by bored paladins, not to mention SLAVE CROWN. I'm not holding grudges, oh no. Not me. So she has spent her time wandering around the camp preaching the word and getting a lot of dirty looks. She then toom Mike aside and had a long talk about his pact. I'm not sure what was said but they both came out of it pale and quiet. So the war. Wolflake has refused to capitulate of course and High Command is deciding where to strike next. I'm always ready to suggest sacking of the Rheingraf holdings. There's always the chance that Wolflake will gather all of it's forces and come for us instead, so we are gathering our forces up. Our camp grows daily. We've already replaced the numbers lost in the last fight. More recruits. This time an elven band of archers from the wild elf settlements on the east boarder who have also experienced Wolflake pacification in the past and decided that maybe they should get in on this. They don't wear a whole lot and are surprisingly barbaric, but highly disciplined in combat, or so they say. Quite the multiracial band our side is turning in to.

Alright, that's it for tonight. I'll pick back up after sleep and breakfast and see where this takes us. See you then Gents.

it's like so awesome and shit.

>>17629318
Sweet, Wild Elves. Sucks that Avery's not getting the picture that nobody gives two shits about her little cult.

An ordinary(?) human gets drawn into a D&D setting but it turns out that the humans in this part of the world are power-grubbing genocidal shitheads so the MC joins up with the Orcs. This is so fucking awesome.

>>17629348
An unordinary yet gifted Psion.

He still needs to shave his head.

>Band of Archers
Maybe these guys are bad enough dudes to understand the better bow designs.

I see nothing bad if the "uncivilized" races band up. Like I said before, the Orcs and Kobolds are reasonable, and the Humans are dicks. As long as the Orcs keep the moral high ground (which they seem to be doing, what with the taking of PoWs), I'd toss my hat in with them as well.

>>17629299
A bit, but they're undersupplied. They wasted all winter without the ingredients to make cannons or powder while the orcs have been handed an easy-to-use blackpowder weapon they can deploy without retrofitting or trainIng because it uses their existing tech. All it takes is practise in timing the fuses. The church is over-reaching and trying to create complex and specialized gear. The orcs can mass-produce theirs with ease. Logistically, the orcs have the advantage.

>>17629327
Thanks again for a great thread, 008.

>>17629318
Inb4 mike turns traitor because of his pact. Sun-priests offer to 'save' his soul in exchange for info and being a traitor for a while? Given how scary it seems to be, odds are he'd take it. Maybe he already has. There was a hell of a lot of chaos after the fight, and he could have been captured, worked out a deal, then been released to spy on orc army and other Terrans. Gives an alternate explanation for where they got info on gunpowder from too.
>>17629348
My thoughts were that he's with the orcs more because he doesn't want to be solo against the sun-priests at the moment. They're not the best people he's met, but they are willing to protect him, and are the least bad side which will do so. Aeyllin was nicer (to him at least), but would probably just hand him over if the sun-priests came calling.

>>17629384
You're assuming that the Church only has branches in Winterhold and the areas near it. Given their power, they may well have sent the recipe to other branches, which could start building gunpowder weapons faster. Of course, it's possible that the Church only learnt about gunpowder recently after the first battle of Winterhold. They could have taken powder from one of the bullets in his gun without him noticing it happened when he got it back (they read his journal, and he's not exactly keeping track of bullets) and had an alchemist figure out the composition from there.

>>17629364
inb4 shaving his head gives him a power boost

Developing cannons that don't actually break at first use would probably take years for orcs.

>>17630472
Not with Magic.

>>17630491
If they don't have the technology to cast a proper canon body it's not gonna help them much.

>>17630529
Just make one out of a tree trunk and transmute it.

Things get done faster with magic. Just at the moment they have short supply of mages that can do these things. They have the Warlock, and the Old shaman. However I believe that's just it.

>>17629383
Them being elves and me being racist, I expect them to know how to make bows, they would probably figure out the composite bow from a decent explanation.

>>17629414
Still, they are making cannons and not mortars right? I may be wrong but I thought cannons fire cannonballs, I do believe hand grenades have a better area of effect.

Very close to autosage, new thread / minimize bumps until 008 returns?

>This time an elven band of archers from the wild elf settlements on the east boarder
>They don't wear a whole lot

QUICK! TAP THAT ELVEN ASS BEFORE THE BARD DOES!

>>17630799
Avery is right there.
Pretty sure we were going for her.

>>17630799
>before the bard does
Too late.

>>17631031
>Be stranded in fantasy world
>Have any kind of fantasy pussy you can imagine around
>Go for the terran girl that is stranded here with me

>>17631249
He makes a good point.
We havent even seen Dwarves yet.

>>17631249
Dude's confirmed he's gotten laid here before - and probably with Tieflings and elves and the like. Switching back to the 'standard' stuff after boning chicks like that can make everything feel new and exciting again!

What about Throwing axes? It would fit the Orcs personality, it would help break up the phalanx as the axes would destroy the shields.

>>17631712
That's nice, but pilums would be even better. Cannot be thrown back, if thrown with proper force it gets stuck in their shields weighing them down and making them unwieldy, forcing the soldier to drop the shield or spend time trying to yank it out.

>>17631871
The thing is, the Francisca is thrown before a charge. So basically they go in, throw the axes, the axes cause massive disruption to the Phalanx. Then the orcs charge in with heavy cavalry, and break up the formation of the Phalanx.

The Phalanx is only good if they got a solid line, now with the throwing axe, stirrups, and bombs they'll tear through the Phalanx.

>>17631931
Allow me to blow your mind.
Use both!

So, any chance we're gonna see the railgun that's powered by iron rods and lightning magic? Because if you're going to have magic AND know some science, might as well go big.

Saw this thread earlier, and all I got to say is stay awesome /tg/.

Oh! And is anyone else finding the idea of those kobolds from earlier going around in togas and being like Athenian democracy an amusing and awesome thing to happen?

>>17631961
True, however the Orcs said they never went for the spear thing.

Orcs don't like spears? No problem. Allow me to introduce the heavy crossbow with an ax blade on the end. Shootah and Choppa all in one. Make the metal bow a bit longer than where you attack the string, sharpen the points, and now you have a combat pick as well.

Journal Entry 153

The battle of Aganis Field. Finally, a location without Wolf in the title. The area is one of the unfarmable plains in the kingdom, boulders and rocks that they can't easily break up so the kingdom put anything that smelled bad. Leather tanneries, soap making and so on. The fumes in the area burn everyone's eyes. We didn't even plan on a fight here, we were passing through when one of the smaller Wolflake armies showed up, also passing through the area. They held their ground and so did we, then the fight was on. We set up two of the bomb catapults. Archers and casters tossing everything they have and then we fired the catapults. The enemy pulled into a Testudo formation. Really. It didn't help them a bit though, their formation was blown apart and cavalry wrecked them before the front line slammed into them. Avery sat out the battle on the hill with the other non combatants, but she came down afterwards to give her healing support. Prisoners taken, the nobles sent to be ransomed. We looted the area afterwards and got the hell out of there. Everything smells now.

>>17632456
Welcome back, for the yays.

We're over autosage on this thread, start new!

Great, first post of the day and we're already autosaging. Alright, I'll see about making a new thread.

>>17632456
Glad to see the orcs have made a turn around in the war, now they're making large decisive victories while winning skirmish after skirmish. Wont be long until we see the humans starting to make more desperate actions, warlocks and deamon pacts in full view of the sun church or some such. Assassins and Saboteurs will make their appearance soon most likely

>>17632362
forget crossbows, we have guns with axes

>>17632493
That... seems incredibly impractical. that mechanism would be so easily damaged from any extended combat with the axe.

>>17632493
True. But early guns are a pain in the ass to make. Metallurgy is NOT up to making a barrel that will not break during fire unless you put a TON of research into it. Its a process that would take decades of research, and just magicing everything to not break would be too expensive or be too slow. Plus making barrels that arn't large enough to easily sandcast (if they know what sand casting is. They might use mud casting which is almost guaranteed to cause barrel fracturing during firing) is a bitch.

>>17632516
Not really. A flint lock or wheel lock is actually very durable. The problem lies in that the melee attachments become superfluous in all but the rarest of cases once gun has enough range and power. Only real one that remains viable is the bayonet to fend off cavalry charges like pikemen/spearmen. Or when a commander decides to fuck casualties and just take the losses to get in close. A spear like weapon is good for that sort of thing.

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