>>16521370
Now, before you get your knickers in a twist, you won't be dealing with the Gammas, you'll be starting on Omega to Sigma. Nice and easy, not too much hassle. Users are drawn together, so if you discover anything higher than a Sigma, call in back-up straight away. You do not talk to the User, you don't look at the User without your helmet on, you keep the tint at all times. And try and keep out of eye contact, some can get through the visor. Use the recorded audio only, and if it moves in a way you don't like, feel free to pop it in the knee-cap, most aren't immune to pain. Do not question orders from your superiors, do not doubt your goal. Some can turn the smallest doubt into a fully fledged mutiny, and I've popped enough boys in the brain-pan to know that most of the time, it's permanent. If you survive and do well, hell, you might get transferred into a Counter-Magi squad and get the right to question orders. But until then, you do as your told, got it?
Now, move out! Those Users ain't gonna turn themselves in!

well written, OP.

>politics isogical
Yeah I suppose it IS politics, Captchan.

Fund it!

Very nice, I like it.
Is this a campaign setting you're working on OP? Looking for help, or just to share?

Also:
>Africas gone to the dogs
That ship's already sailed.

These fools believe that they can stop the rising tide, castrate us and turn us into their loyal lapdogs, but they do not understand the nature of our existence or the nature of our birthright. In the end is they who shall kneel before their rightful rulers.

They will come at us with their vaunted technology, and send the best, most intensively trained of their number to take on our least, but their bullets shall be as raindrops on a window, their courage as the suicidal bravery of a man choosing to fight a lion with his bare hands. We will rend them apart, reforming them and repeating the process again, and again, and again, until their will breaks. When they thank us for offering them the release of death, we will rip the souls from their bodies and use them to our own aims and ensure that their torment remains eternal.

Do not fear their prattling, threats, and propaganda; they are nothing more than dogs snapping at their masters before the chain is pulled.

So where can we learn about the various User types? My buddy told me that a Pusher can fuck up a guy's thoughts and memory something fierce. Like killin' comrades and suicidin'.

>>16521370
What about the families sir? Will they be compensated?

So, uh, I just came across this guy. Do we kneecap him or what? I kinda need orders here sir. He's lookin' mighty hungry, and I'd rather not find out what he eats.

>>16521495

Fuck their families! Those users are weapons and nothing more, their families would be exhilarated knowing little Timmy is protecting an ambassador while in Russia.

>from a Theta level living grenade to a Gamma-level walking war-head

Looks suspiciously 40k-like.
But what about Beta and Alpha levels?

Omega-Tau: Slightly enhanced human, no real threat, easily subjugated by higher level Users. Recommend de-powering and release
Sigma-Omicron: Abilities become noticeable to public, may develop based on environment (animal communication, control of bricks). Recommend capture and study. Either commission or de-power and release.
Xi-Lambda: Abilities are very noticeable/unnatural (Telekinesis, thought sensing, power over plants). Recommend capture and commission. De-powering difficult, may prove fatal for subject. Terminate if required.
Kappa-Eta: Subject is very powerful, but very noticeable. Attempt to capture before evolution to next level. Commission or termination recommended.
Zeta-Epsilon: Subject is extremely powerful, may become delusional. Immediate capture, commission or on site termination recommended. DO NOT ALLOW SUBJECT TO EVOLVE PAST THIS LEVEL.
Delta: Subject is extreme danger to society. Must be terminated on site. Commission possible, but not recommended.
Gamma: TERMINATE SUBJECT. ABILITES MAY EFFECT LARGE AREAS. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO COMMISSION.
Beta: TERMINATE. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO ENGAGE WITH SOLDIERS.
Alpha: [Information classified] Activate "Merlin" protocol, await further orders.

>>16521469
You blew up a car that took a parking space, man! That's not cool!

>>16521528

Greek letter ranking is realistic. It's 40k that picked it up from reality.

Alphas and Betas are probably on multiple silo+ level and/or destroyed preemptively and/or never encountered yet and/or melt down by themselves trying to keep powers in check.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afT1fAwSr-Q

Oh look, another /tg/ setting wanking totalitarian shitpile governments.

Sir don't you think all this combat gear is nessercy? I mean, we're Omegas and Sigmas, a cop with a shotgun can handle them. For Sankt Kaiser's sake, have cloaking tech and semi-powered armor here! Are these weaker ones that dangerous?

>>16521528
>everything must be fom 40k because 40k is what started this board and the most popular subject no way it can come from a scary place called REALITY

>>16521562
It looks like it, yeah.

>>16521495
All immediate family are put on Commission pay, which varies on the abilities of the User. We 'anit heartless, lad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63zO34ZSXL8

>>16521569
*I mean, we're handling Omegas and Sigmas here!

Bloody typos, hate them

Guys did you see the latest Network world video about power armor? Here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wUALM8arYE&feature=feedu
I can't wait to beat those users using logical, comprehensible, technology. Let's see them magic themselves out of a falcon punch.

>>16521618
When can we have those railguns next? I'd been itching to try one of those badboys for awhile now

>>16521618

>cyberdyne

welp thats that then.

>>16521618
This. Fuck genetic engineering or mechanical limbs, battle suits are the way of the future and I get to retain my civilian identity if I get bored or retire.

>>16521569
Until we get something more defined than the rankings, we need to prepare you for anything. And Omega can't make you shoot your buddy, but he might make your gun jam, so his big buddy can fry you or explode you before you can shoot him. Don't get me started on the Trojans. Bastard looks like a Tau, turns out to be a Lambda and then you're up to your neck in shit because you didn't bring the right bullets.

I always liked a setting of technology vs magic. What I hate is how the human or normal faction is always in the losing side of the conflict and can only beat the magic faction through sheer numbers instead of taking advantage of advance technology or tactics.

>>16521663
yes sir. Understood sir.

>>16521618
>Cyberdyne

Seriously, the company still haven't changed their name even though they know the implications of using it?

Sir, I heard... stories about how some of them can maybe heal people, if that's true are they less of a threat to us, or can they mess our bodies up from the inside?

Um, sir quick question, what's the exact threat level of a teenager with the ability to nullify magic. Without any kind of equipment? I saw this kid knock the stuffing out of some Kappa-Eta.

>>16521736
some can do both better pluck them up to be sure we can de-power them later

>>16521660
Yeah, a buddy of mine was a Counter-Magi, got some sweet implants, a new arm, the works. But, when he went on leave, his car got trashed by some Pro-Mage kids. Just because some asshole User smashed his arm!

>>16521736

Healing and killing is the same process, applied in two different directions. Even a non-user medic knows how to cure you - this means he knows the best ways to severely fuck you body up.

"Apache Three, this is Doper One, we're under fire! Request immediate assistance, Indigo prior- shit! She turned Hulbert into a fucking chair! Send back up, now!"

>>16521754
What about pure healers, sir? I mean, what are they gonna do? Heal us to perfect health?

>>16521764
This is Apachi Three. We hear you, we are ready to assist.

>>16521765
Son, do you know what cancer is?

>>16521765
What were you told about questions? If command tells you to take 'em in, you do just that! No questions, no problems, no one getting killed 'cause some pycho user made some prick think all his buddies are trying to murder him!

>>16521765

Heal your endocrinal gland into producing lethal doses of hormones. Overstimulate your heart via that defibrillating power. Make an aneurism in your brain. Give you rapid oset cancer.

And that's just off the top of my head.

>>16521798
Yes sir, I do know what cancer is. I'll shut up.

>>16521765
What part of do not question orders did you not understand soldier? If I tell you to pop a user I don't give a shit what you think they can and can't do. You take them out swiftly and efficiently and then if you're still alive you wait for me to give further orders.

>>16521808
OK OK I get it, sir, every user is a danger, I'm sorry.

>>16521370

Sir! Sir! Question!
Did ever happened that a user after capture somehow shot himself in the back of his head... twice?

>>16521839
Yes sir. My apologies sir, they plucked me from the Marine Corps just recently and I'm trying to get my barrings that's all.

>>16521854
Hopefully not, lad. The moment we get 'em in, it's a repression chamber for them and the only people holding the guns are our boys. No worries there.

Archive? This is a pretty interesting setting.

Oh boy, here they go again. Listen, the only thing you people are achieving here is pissing off the wrong folk. The only reason this works is because most magic users prefer to be alone. But once a major threat, say your little crusade here makes the alarm bells ring, you are going to have big troubles. Well, it would if you were any good at your job.

>>16521884

You misunderstood me Sir! I meant that they accidentally commit suicide with our weapons... in a magical way...

>>16521920
how is it up there, on the moon, by the way?

>>16521758
>>16521758
>Yeah, a buddy of mine was a Counter-Magi, got some sweet implants, a new arm, the works. But, when he went on leave, his car got trashed by some Pro-Mage kids. Just because some asshole User smashed his arm!

That sucks. But, it’s nothing from what I heard. There’s been talk that the reason why we don't use genetic engineering against the witches is because apparently those whose genes were tempered were much more malleable to magic than the average person. Well, that and the cost but I believe the first one.

>>16521932
Only the ones that refuse to rehabilitated. They go to a special camp where nobody ever hears from or sees them again.

>>16521952
Dusty and quiet mostly. Well except when some creation of the damned nazis manages to break free. I swear, we triple checked every corner in that bunker 4 times but still some new abomination finds its way to surface every week.

>>16521920
Users need to be regulated, it's a small price to pay for having literally superhuman powers. You might think it's cruel but you don't have to worry about whether someone on the street has the power to fuck your head up and you don't have a chance to stop them. And what if we do leave them alone but they don't extend us the same courtesy? What if some of them band together and none of us have the training or Ability that these Users have? That's why we try to snatch them up and help them to serve our country, and if they don't want to be patriotic? Well... it was probably only a matter of time before they put their own interests before the interests of our great country.
That's why these fucks need to be controlled, otherwise our nation will become dozens of little splinters of land each controlled by some psychic robber-baron who can make your brain explode if you disagree with him.

PLEASE, everyone know tHat alpha can't Exist. Let's just Picture the aMount of Energy that sucH a bEing Is Supposedly need to be able to Channel. Obviously, NoThing could even RemoteLy come close to such levels. thIs merliN protocol is Greatly unnecessary. MoneY is being wasted on such MassIvely Nonsensical theorys. Don't you think that the Government should focus that money on more progressive programs? such as finding an alternative solution to foster user development, rather than obliterate or weaponize it.

I love you /tg/
I just wanted to let you know that

>>16522108
So many typos, I'm really ashamed of myself.
Oh well, I guess I'll just have to ensure that it never happens again.

I joined up 'cause one of those Lambda fucks mind-controlled my sister into letting him rape her. I killed the fuck with my pocket knife while he was at the bodega. Cops came quick, but I gave in easily. Clerk snapped out of it and flipped out thirty minutes after the cops showed.
Trial was quick and but I got thrown in the slammer anyways. They called it a hate crime. Week in, and a pair of suits show up carrying some fancy credentials, throw me in a black Ford Explorer and two months later I'm here.
Good thing too, I was a skinny little shit when I got canned, but for some reason the gangs kept their distance. Two days in, everyone knew and all in one day a white guy with a Nazi tat, a black guy, and a Chicano walk into my cell, one after the other. Here I was thinking they were gonna take turns with me. Turns out each one handed me a pack of cigs, said I did the Lord's work, and walked out.

Now, remind me: Can anything above Chi notice a red-dot on them?

>>16522089
While I agree that proper training is important, your kind most certainly does not have the means to do it. All you can provide is fear, and fear has always been the greatest motivator for desperate acts. Do you honestly not see that the moment one of your test subjects (lets not kid ourselves, that is what they will end up as. ) slips away you are going to be more fucked than a sponge in the rape dimension.

I remember when they came, I was.. ten, I think? I really can't remember much, just that I was woken up at night by my mom, and she had this really scared look on her face, like she'd seen something horrible. She told me to get up, I didn't even have time to get any clothes on, she just grabbed me and opened my bedroom window (we lived in a bungalow) and practically threw me out, jumping out after me. I heard a crash at the front of the house and voices shouting. One was my dad, I think, and the others were curt, barking shouts. I know now that it was the soldiers who'd come for me. I remember wanting to cry out, but my mom clamped her hand on my mouth and told me to not say anything.

[cont]

now the question.
in a game like this what would you rather play? the magicians or the mercenaries?

and why?

>>16522108
Understood. Backup en route.

>>16522208
Mercenaries.

>>16522208
Mages. Seems like there's the potential for far more interesting, emotive characters and games. Trying to keep control of your powers while being hunted by an oppressive government that just sees you, at best, as a weapon to be used and at worst a threat to be destroyed. It's got a nice WoD-y feel to it.

>>16522208
Let's see, with the mercenaries I get cool gear, armor and other advance technology with a decent paying job.
With the witches I get discrimination, power that I can barely control that endangers the innocent and my loved ones and I get treated like dirt.

I think powered armor army suits my needs.

We ran away, as I heard several short bangs, and a muffled scream. I was too young to quite know exactly what had happened but some part of me knew my dad had died then. We crawled under a hole in the back chain-fence, keeping quiet as possible, into an alley where we started to run, my mom leading me by the hand. She was crying. I could hear a helicopter overhead, it was using spotlights to try to find us. We came to a point where the alley met the road, and in front of us was a sewer access. My mum did something I didn't understand at the time, stepping forward and lifting her arm into the sky. The iron disc lifted into the air and with a turn she threw the levitated disc in the direction of the helicopter. It was then we heard shouts as the soldiers stormed out onto the street, shouting at us to lay on the ground. My mom screamed and pushed her arms toward them , pushing them all over with a wave of energy as she practically pushed me into the hole in the road.
I climbed down the ladder, almost losing grip several times, until I finally slipped and fell. Luckily I wasn't far from the bottom and I got back up quickly, as my mom dropped down nearby. She told me to run and I did, into the total blackness of the sewer tunnel. She ran ahead and grabbed my hand again.

[cont]
[also setting a name[

>>16521460

Does no one remember Mage: the Ascension? This is pretty much it.

I'd imagine all Combat Helmets are lined with tinfoil to avoid possession or suggestion. This would probably apply to most headgear from Patrol Caps to Combat Caps.

>>16522185

Bullshit. Every User I've met and killed so far was a power-tripping asshat. Do you know the numbers of them I've encountered that used their powers to go on serial-killing sprees just because they had a slightly bad day, or mentally controlled someone into being their slaves because they had a crush on them? You talk of Users training Users, but all that results in is an organization completely distant from normal humankind, far more dangerous then individual renegades.

Your days of dictatorship over those that don't possess the same ability to manipulate reality are over.

>>16522270
>>16522297
I think it'd be awesome to have a nWoD campaign mixing Hunter and Mage, pitting them against each other in a world in which wizards start popping up everywhere and the government has to put its foot down. Hell, the other 'Fae' races could be in it too, just playing tiny roles.

I was subject to mind-control once.

Well, sorta. The little fuck managed to "hack" my nervous system and took my body for a joyride. He killed nine people, raped four of them, and a bunch of other horrible shit that doesn't seem worth mentioning after those two. You might of heard about some of it, he was a serial killer using my hands.

Worst part is, I finally got caught when I broke free and knifed the little fucker, he'd screamed loud enough that his neighbor heard, and called the cops. I was too worn out from fighting my own body to even try to get away.

It never even made it to trial. I got scooped up while being processed. Nice little cover story was made too. Someone "caught in the act" was hit by a train, and rendered totally unrecognizable.

I could hear the armed men coming down the ladder behind us, the splashes of our feet in the water clearly giving our direction away. They shouted and fired shots from the ladder, luckily missing as we ran. My mom's hand glowed blue for a moment and suddenly I could see again! The lights was still dim but suddenly I could see ahead, the wires along the walls, the... filth I was running in barefoot. Behind us came lights, obscenely bright under my newfound vision, and more shouting, the occasional gunshot as they tried to disable us. I've never run faster in my life than I did that day, as a crying, terrified young child.

As I sobbed my mom kept saying to me - "we'll be okay, we'll be okay", repeating it like a mantra, as if saying it enough times would make it true.
We turned a corner, hoping to find enough corners to eventually outrun our pursuers.

A huge light, however, shined ahead of me. I blinked my eyes and as my blue-tinted vision faded back to normal, I saw two soldiers approaching us, guns held high. My mom tried to turn us around, only to find us surrounded by more troops. Tears streaming down her face, she let out a terrified snarl, two balls of fire forming on her hands, the fire traveling up her arms and meeting at her back, lighting the tunnel with a violent orange glow.

[cont]

>>16522339

Could be Unknown Armies, too. Just make special tactical units for the Sleepers faction. Hell, the weirdness of Unknown Armies would make this extra fun. What tactics do you use to hunt down an Avatar of the Pilgrim?

A user with control over radio waves would be able to fuck these guys up badly, since they have sealed helmets.
The user could block their real signals and give them false information, or even "orders" from command telling each individual that someone else on the team has been compromised. Or even just blatantly ordering them to team kill, since they aren't supposed to question orders.

They shouted. "OPEN FIRE" and the air around me cracked with gunfire, my mother's body dancing like a macabre jig, blood shooting from both sides of her body as bullets racked her from both sides.
I remember clamping my hands to the sides of my head due to the noise, and dropping to the ground. A terrified, screaming ten-year-old now coated in his mother's blood. When the noise ceased my mom just fell to the ground, a final splash signalling her demise. It was all quiet, save for my sobbing, my hands pulling at my mom's clothes. I was begging her to get back up, even as the shallow water around us turned scarlet.

The soldiers carefully approached me. "What do we do with this one?" One of the troops asked another.
"I don't know, does he look like an S-Omi?"
"Fucked if I know, he probably would have done some of that shit by now if he was".
I heard one of the masked men speak into a radio on his shoulder.
"Bravo squad to Alpha, LT, we've got a kid here, doesn't look like a User. We had to terminate the Kappa."
The radio replied :
#"You stupid bastard, now we'll never knew how she kept hidden for so long"#.
"Sir, some serious shit was about to go down, we had to terminate"
#"Fine. I don't know about the kid, just bring him in for testing. If his mom was a User, he probably will be too"#

[cont]

>>16522500

whoops, forgot the name. Writing more in a moment

>>16522397
Had I played that game I would have a clue as to what you're speaking about. As it stands, I have no fucking clue.

As this conversation happened, they hadn't seemed to notice my cries, pouring from me wave after wave, growing in intensity. My hands clenched around my mother's bloodied clothes, torn to rags by the bullets, and something rose within me. Something red, hot and violent. The sobs began to gave way to stifled snarls, and a small fire began to spread over my body. The soldiers noticed, shouted and raised their weapons. "Shit, SHIT! SHOOT IT!"

The tempest that was growing inside me escaped as I let out a single, anguished scream. Before the soldiers could fire, the tunnel filled with fire, blasting out from me in all directions, flaying the troops' flesh and burning them all to nothing.
I learned later that sewer grates for miles had been blasted out of their holdings as the explosion tore through the tunnels. Heh... I still have the newspaper clipping I found years later about it.
As the screams and fire receded, the tunnels were covered in a thick, oppressive silence. I cried for what seemed like hours over the charred remains of my mother. I can't remember which way I went after that. I just.. stood up and ran away. I remember what my head had felt like after my mother had given me the Vision, and with a feeling like the muscles on the back of my neck contracting, I could see in the gloom once again.

After a while I slowed to a walk. There I was, a grief-stricken, terrified, crying ten-year-old in blue pyjamas and no shoes, and no idea whatsoever of where to go, what to do. I walked and walked, I felt like I was down there for days, taking random turns, and just going as far as I could away from what had happened, where my life had been completely destroyed.

[cont]

>>16522208
Ay Sir, Merc through 'n' through.
Readdy a Show them Baddies That'a when thay Step ot-a line, we gona come get Em.

>>16522208
>>16522208

a mage simply because of the hi-jinks and roleplaying

In the end I just looked up at a ladder and decided to go up. I felt completely empty, like this was all a vague dream and if I just got through it, everything would be okay again.

How I got out still amazes me.I had a child's strength, and I was pushing at the sewer covering with everything I had. It rattled a little, and I pushed and pushed but couldn't open it. In tearful frustration I bashed at the covering with my fist, a claustrophobic fear overtaking me. After I had almost split my skin beating on the cover, it opened, and I felt hands grab my clothing and haul me out. I jammed my eyes closed, certain that the soldiers had found me, but instead I felt myself being carried.
As we turned a corner I was placed back on the ground. Whoever had been carrying me was speaking. "Hey, hey! Are you alright, kid? It's not safe, we've got to get you out of here." The man, tall and lanky, with ragged clothing and mid-length hair, looked to and fro with urgency.

[cont]

>>16522658

Forgot the name again!

The ragged man dropped to his haunches, examining me quickly.
"Oh, shit. You're Gray's kid, aren't you? I've been looking for you. Where's your mom?"
At the mention of my mother I just began crying again. I had thought that I had cried myself out forever, that I'd exhausted my anguish for a lifetime but in this relatively safe area, it flooded from me like an unstoppable tide.
The stranger's face fell. "Fuck. They got her." He stood up, turned away, looking back and forth as if in indecision. Suddenly he span back to face me as I managed to choke back the sobs. "Alright. We're going to go somewhere safe. I'll get you out of here, just come with me." He took ahold of my hand. Part of me wanted to pull away, to stamp my foot and not move, but I knew deep down that I had to go with him.
He led me down the alleys I had come out in, I was somewhere close to the center of town. I had come further from my home than I had thought.

As we passed an exit of the alley to the street, I could see police cars parked, blue and red flashes illuminating the night. The stranger stepped into a shadow, pulling me with him and pressing his hand against my mouth. "Shh!"
The shadows around us seemed to encroach, enveloping us, as several more soldiers as well as police ran past the alley, two soldiers stopping to scan the alley with a flashlight. The corner we were behind being just enough to hide us.

[cont]

>>16522574

This is why Users need to be put down. Is the life of a woman and child (With immense and dangerous power no less) worth the lives of a dozen or more other human beings?

Only if they use it for the betterment of mankind, and not to kill a shit load of people.

>>16522798

says the guy willing to kill people who have done nothing wrong out of blind fear...

>>16522813

>Trying to justify NOT killing people who can turn you into objects, burn you alive, or destroy your sanity with a simple thought.

I seriously hope you don't do this.

Pic related by the way, it's what happens when you let an easily influenced and potentially unstable human being have the ability to do anything they want.

>>16522864

you are assuming they are all power hungry and evil by nature.

>>16521370
>>16521378
got it kill all magic users. im pretty sure i was doing that before you were even in basic however
suffer not the witch to live

Seemingly content with their sweep, the police continued their patrol.
"What did you DO down there, kid." He told me "You've got the whole damned Ministry looking for you."
We continued to lead me, up to an unmarked red door on the side of a plain building.

He placed his hand on a small section of the door - I noticed the pain slightly worn there - and closed his eyes. A moment later the door opened, onto a stairway heading down back underground.

That's when I met Great Lou. A huge man, with long white hair arranged into dreadlocks.
"What in the seven hells are you doing out there, Tom? And who is that?" He demanded, his voice low and quiet but the anger clear.
"I was waiting for the Grays, you know their escape plan just as well as I - if they could get away, they were to head for here" This 'Tom' savior of mine replied.
"And you know that I told them not to. They could have been followed too easily."
"So? It was the best escape plan they had. Failed anyway. This kid is all I could find. It's Elizabeth's son. I'm thinking he caused the explosion in the tunnels, or his mom went nova to protect him. We can't abandon him to those Ministry pigs."

The dreadlocked giant went down on one knee, taking ahold of my face, turning it left and right.
"He doesn't seem hurt. Take him out, find somewhere for him. Maybe Suz can take care of him. I've gotta get back to packing up. We're moving out the moment this shit dies down, Tom."

[cont]

>>16522893

They don't always start that way, but it should be duly noted that there is a saying about this sort of thing...

'Power corrupts... Absolute power corrupts absolutely.'

>>16522864
>trying to justify killing an entire group for their individual capacity for committing crimes
>OH MAN I'M PRETTY FUCKING STUPID AREN'T I
>HYUK HYUK HYUK

>>16522941

>Implying that a group of supernaturally gifted (in this context... So magic) individuals wouldn't have a highly skewed potential for crime.

>HERP DERP I CAN TYPE LIKE AN IDIOT TOO
>THIS CONTRIBUTES TO MY POINT SO WELL

>>16522916

Tom took me with a tired-looking woman called Susan. As we went through the dark corridors, I saw people hurrying to and fro, packing objects into backpacks and duffel bags, but taking the most care to not make any noise.

After I was left in the woman's care, she hugged me tight and told me how my mom was so brave, and how she's miss her so much. I felt beyond caring about things then. I just felt eternally tired.
I said that I wanted to sleep, and I was given a bed.
I call it that, it was little more than several piled rags with a sleeping-bag as a duvet. My stinking clothes dried now, I laid down, staring at the concrete ceiling for a moment and fell asleep.

Susie was a kind sort. I miss her, y'know. She took care of me after mom died.

We moved out the next morning. I was gently awoken by Tom, and he told me that the people in the hideout were carefully being moved in twos and threes, in plain cars or vans. Later that day, our turn came and we left, Tom not leaving my side at all that day. We left in a car with two others, headed out toward the east. I learned later that the renegades had moved out of the town in all directions, planning to meet at a building several hundred miles away. I learned from conversations between the other escapees that it wasn't just my mom and dad, but dozens of other people killed in the raids the night before.

That's how I escaped the Massacre of Luton, and how I ended up here.

[cont]

>>16522983
Although I disagree with the suggestion of killing all those who posses a threat, I do agree with the belief that those with power have responsibilities. Users in a sense are restricted in a way a person who wants to carry fire arms is restricted to training, following regulations, are registered and making sure they have clean profile.

You can`t have a person who wields the power of atomic bombs with the same freedoms as most normal people. It`s sad but it`s true, these people need to be kept on a tight leash because they literally have the ability to ruin entire cities unlike most people.

>>16523117
If they're that powerful, they can just control you, rather than vice versa. I know y'all like to jerk off to HFY, but sheesh.

A spectre is haunting the United States. The spectre of wizardry. All of the powers of the Ungifted establishment have entered into a holy alliance to exorcise this spectre: conservative and liberal, republican and democrat, gun control advocates and the patriot militias.

Where is the proponent of User rights that has not been decried as secretly being one of us by their opponents in power? Where is the advocate who has not smeared actual Users as terrorists while denying these allegations?

Two things result from this fact:
1. Users are already aknowledged by every segment of American society to be a separate society, unto itself.
2. It is high time that Users should openly, in the face of the whole world, publish their aims, their tendencies, and meet this nursery tale of the Spectre of Wizardry with a manifesto of the party itself.

I hope you've been paying attention, because this is important. You're young, and likely going through what I did back then.

At the new hideout, a place we called Haven (a ridiculous name, it was a fetid basement, barely an oversized hole in the ground, we lived barely better than rats). I was forced to be accustomed to my new life.
I grew up in that tiny warrens of rooms, and through every second of it I blamed myself for what had happened. As I grew older I began to understand what I was, and I told myself that I had done something, said something, let someone know that I wasn't like other people. That that was how they found my mom, and why I ended up here.

We mostly resorted to petty crime for food, or working cash-in-hand jobs for pittances. We were all told, unequivocally, that we were to never, ever practice the Gift outside for any reason.

I was outside of the Haven one day, scoping a grocery store for a quick snatch-and-grab, when I saw a young girl being taunted by other girls in school uniforms. "Witch! Witch!" They called her. "Burn the witch! Burn the witch!"
The young girl kept walking, trying to escape her taunters. I didn't follow, just watching from afar, and soon they all escaped from sight.

It wasn't long after, a few days perhaps, that I was out again, and I heard a scream nearby. The child's mother had taken to escorting her to and from school, but they had been surrounded by armored, armed police.

[cont]

>>16523129

So because they were lucky enough to be born with supernatural powers, now they get to control the vast majority of the population who don't? That's completely removing any ability for people to progress in rank through effort or improvement, little better then a dictatorship. You complain about HFY, but there's also the complete opposite extreme where you're basically jerking it to the idea of being a superhuman being who gets to push around "ALL THOSE STUPID NORMIES WHO MAKE FUN OF ME IN REAL LIFE FOR LIKING MAGIC". Is that last part a strawman? Yes, to the exact same degree as you claiming anyone who sides with the Mercs is jerking it to HFY.

>>16523129
>Implying my perceptions/opinions about humanity have any influence in my opinion about people who can endanger thousands if not millions of lives, user or not.

Yes, because a person of mass destruction can control the minds of individuals now. Those who have mind control are obviously dangerous individuals and for those who intend to exploit their abilities should be persecuted under the full extent of the law and be under strict surveillance. I don't advocate genocide but I'm not stupid either.

I went to look away. It was just another Taking, we couldn't interfere, even if they were like us. Some part of me almost felt like I should give myself up, like perhaps we WERE the monsters they demonised us as.

"GET ON THE GROUND." They shouted. "GET ON THE GROUND!"
The young girl was terrified, and a crowd had gathered, other police doing their best to move them on. The mother was equally frightened, moving to protect her cowering daughter. One of the police moved forward and brought the butt of his shotgun onto the woman's shoulder, knocking her to the ground. The wind picked up and I saw the young girl's eyes widen and her arms move up, doing something to protect her mother, but she was too slow. Another officer brought his gun down on her equally hard as the last. The bastards beat down an eight-year-old girl, for christ's sake. The officers put weapons to both the mother and daughter's heads. Someone in the crowd shouted at them to stop. "What are you doing? She's just a child!" and ran foward. He was immediately stopped by a hail of gunfire. A curt order from the police captain, and both the woman and girl were shot dead.
The looks... the looks on their faces. The men rounding the Gifted up, killing them, were actually -enjoying- it. I realized then what those men were. Sick, cruel, spiteful, jealous Ungifted playing with the pathetic mechanical power they'd been given by their violent masters.
I knew then that I was wrong. My mother's death wasn't my fault. They'd have killed her anyway. We weren't monsters, we were better. Better than these men who sought to destroy us utterly because they weren't like us.

>>16523329

I returned to Haven that night and cried myself to sleep. It was like my mother's death all over again. I was a coward and the child and mother died.
I promised I would practice, get better, get stronger. After that I vowed I would never let a Gifted by murdered, sold into bondage by men like that.

I suppose the Movement started then, twenty years ago. I'm telling you this because you've doubted our methods. We're violent, perhaps, but only were violence is needed, and only ever to protect our very existence. Know that the men we kill are evil, sadistic souls who won't rest until every one of us are dead, or lobotomized vegetables.

You said that we should find a better way but honestly?
Well, son, I can't see one.


[end]

>>16523336

Great job.

Now do a story from the perspective of someone who's family members were brutally murdered/mindraped by a "Gifted".

>>16523336

I'm half-tempted to write a lot more stories based on this premise (maybe even about this character, I don't want him to be a 'good guy' as much as anyone else in the world, give him a bit of a dark side, maybe give him a bit of a superiority complex), really flesh the idea out a bit.

>>16523387

I might well do, I don't want to make this one-sided totalitarianism revolution jack-off fiction. Heroes and villains on both sides (humans are brutal out of a perceived need, which makes the Gifted more dangerous out of an urge to survive)

>>16523422

Well duh, it is pretty natural that the more repressive the regime the more barbaric the rebels will be.

Having a totalitarian police state gives you the option of playing real dirtbag terrorists without feeling like the bad guy; and fighting dirtbag terrorists lets you play a police state thug without feeling like the bad guy.

>>16523497

EVERYBODY WINS!

(except the moderates)

>>16523497

A damned fine setting for an RP, then. Damn, this is a good thread. Can we archive it?

Some have protested vehemently against the capture and confinement of magic users on the grounds of inhumane treatment. And make no mistake, our treatment of them is harsh - this I will not dispute. Many have pointed towards the internment of Japanese citizens during WWII and Muslims citizens during The Long War as examples of unfair treatment in the past that we have come to regret and argued that we too, in the future, will come to regret our treatment of magic users. But this time it is different. Not all Muslims were terrorists, and as it turned out, the overwhelming majority of the Japanese were completely loyal citizens. But each and every magic user has the potential to wreck havoc with nothing but their organic powers. I am not saying all magic users seek chaos and destruction (And results so far have shown they are no more likely to commit crimes than the average citizen), but it only takes one.

The close supervision and if necessary, confinement, of magic users is essential to our continued collective safety. By virtue of their capacity for destruction, they MUST be kept on a tight leash. We've been lucky that so far we have only had to deal with mindless outbursts of violence or accidents involving out-of-control powers. That incident at Golden Gate Bridge that killed two hundred people? Complete accident, kid imagined the cables looked like spaghetti and poof - the bridge collapses, plunging everybody in it into the ice cold water.

God help us the day we get a truly malicious, cold-blooded, and intelligent magic user.

>>16523513

Actually, in such a world real dirtbags get to think of themselves as moderates just because they happen to be so relative to the other factions.

When you get to be the "why not just tag them all with RFID chips" or "put them into walled off neighborhoods with armed guards" guy and seem like a moderate in comparison, that is a bit like the asshole jackpot.

Dilemma: Everyone has a nuke in their head that they can set off at any time, but doesn't know that they do

What do you do?

Instant Death Mode: Everyone has a nuke in their head that they can set off at any time, but they don't know this; however, a few people do and are spreading the information by word of mouth according to personal discretion

the conspiracy is out, what do you do?

>>16523584
At what point am I informed of the conspiracy?

>>16523584
>>16523597
>>16523584
Uh, as in the people spreading the information. This is a bit of a moot point I suspect, because unless it is more or less 'there is this guy and he told another guy and we have them both' then it won't change my response much.

>>16523597
>>16523603
I think Anon is trying to restate the User v. Mundane argument of the OP in another form

In b4 samefag

also, if you are informed of how to activate the nuke, how do you stop yourself from detonating it reflexively?

>>16523537

The interesting groups will be the true radicals on both sides, especially magic users, whom even other Gifted see as extreme, and the Ungifted radicals who see people who've come into contact with Gifted as tainted or dangerous themselves.

>>16523665
Well, yes. Obviously.

>>16523199
I shrugged.

>>16523534

Indeed. Even most metaphysical terrorism has been relatively low-key, given what Users are capable of. The Opus Majus bank robberies and political assassinations of the previous decade were modeled after the methods of baseline human revolutionary groups, and did not exploit the lateral advantages provided by reality altering abilities.

However, recent reports are more troubling, things that would make the early frontrunners of the offensive branches of The Movement seem harmless in comparison...

>>16523706
The Movement, as it is called, is the greatest threat to civilization in the history of humanity. They are actively inflaming humanity, creating tension and triggering series' of atrocities that remove any hope of negotiation or containment. Therefore, it has become necessary to negate that threat, for the good of all.

No matter what.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBhhhWDcrSo

THE MOVEMENT IS YOUR LIFE

JOIN THE MOVEMENT

>>16523866
Any sensible person would understand that once The Movement passes a very low tipping point the policy of containing it is very much detrimental. Once you cannot contain The Movement (which happens quickly, almost as soon as there is more than one gathering) then you may as well shift to accepting it. The advantages are so weighted on their side as soon as they get even a small degree of proliferation on the go.

At least by acknowledging and accepting you allow yourself some measure of influence on what The Movement will ultimately become as a social system.

>>16523706

16th October, 2016 (16/10/16)

Excerpt from the private trial of Langley Nugent, age 35, May 2014

--THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION IS HIGHLY CLASSIFIED, CLEARANCE OF BLACK OR ABOVE IS REQUIRED FOR THIS DOCUMENT--


...

[CENSORED]: So Mr. Nugent, you admit to slaughtering twenty-three American citizens at Only Heart chapel on august seventh?

Nugent: Of course I did, you ignorant fucknugget. I already told you what they were doing there.

[CENSORED]: And you felt no guilt or compunction at your actions?

Nugent: Fuck no. They all had it coming. They were taking us and putting us up on fucking boards like roman crucifictions!

[CENSORED]: Now, Mr. Nugent, we exampined the scene and found no evidence of your allegations. What we did find were a lot of dead innocents. Why was that?

Nugent: Of course you did, you facist. You just took the bodies away and claimed I killed them for no reason, playing it all up to the media, but you're good at that aren't y-

(He is cut short by the judge, who orders the prisoner to simply answer the questions)

[CENSORED]: Mr. Nugent, there is no need to get angry, we're just following the law.

[CENSORED]: Is it true that many who share your condition have been found mentally ill, that insanity is common among Gifted?

Nugent: Fuck off. That's what you spin to the cameras isn't i-

(he is cut off again by the judge)

[cont]

[CENSORED]: Language like that will find you in contempt of court, Mr. Nugent. Hold your tongue.

Nugent: We both know how this is going to end, -your honour-. I'm going to be found guilty and executed. That's what you do, isn't it? JUST FUCKING DO IT! FUCK THIS CHARADE!

[CENSORED]: Now, Mr. Nugent, I assure you that will not be the case. Answer our questions honestly and we will be fair. This trial isn't rigged.

[CENSORED]: Tell me, Mr. Nugent, what you did to the churchgoers in the chapel?

(Nugent assumes a defeated posture, and his next reply is bitter)

Nugent: I strung them up like my kin they slaughtered, and I put them all on display, nice and orderly like, so you can all see what happens when you persecute us.

[CENSORED]: So you admit this to being a genus issue? A genus crime, if you will?

Nugent: No I did not, you bastard. It was justice, not a hate crime. They had been killing people in cold blood!

[CENSORED]: As was stated, no bodies of any others than the ones you killed were found at the crime scene. So tell me, where were they exactly?

Nugent: Crucified along the inside of the chapel. They were going to string me up too, until I broke free of that fucking silencing collar

[CENSORED]: They restrained you?

Nugent: They took me as a mob, one of them claimed I'd lit a cigarette with my finger, he was full of crap, they just wanted a lynching

You now realize this is Harlem Quest in the future. Pray for the soul of anyone who say the N word.

>>16523907

You mean people who didn't get lucky on the metaphysical dice roller get confined to secondary citizen status, huh? Fuck you. I worked hard to get where I am. 5 years of study at an engineering oriented college funded by 8 years working my ass off at the industrial plant , 20 years managing a munitions company making the materials and weapons needed to ensure us hard workers don't get crushed down by your "Aryan Race." Yeah, you heard me. It's no secret now that Hitler was a Theta-level empath, along with all his cabinet members. You fucking think we're going to lie back and let you shitheads lock us up in your camps for the sake of your bullshit eugenics policy? Under your system, it wouldn't matter how hard you worked, or studied, or applied yourself. All that fucking matters is whether or not you were born with it.

Rogue Mages/Psychics threatening the world with Eternal Darkness?

I guess it's time to... LIGHT UP THE NIGHT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkLvpt9Z3fA&feature=feedrec_grec_index

>>16524001
Sorry, I wasn't really intending to participate in this thread roleplay. Certainly if not everyone can be taught magic then the variables change pretty drastically - as long as a majority or sizeable minority can't you are going to have a prolonged conflict (which will probably ultimately be lost assuming significant numbers of those who *can*, but may last a great deal of time).

>>16523906

And for commissioned users: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTbpyd_8mSM

The Corps is Mother, the Corps is Father

[CENSORED]: And they took you to this One Hear chapel?

Nugent: Yeah. I don't even know for sure if the guys they killed were even Gifted. They just roped my hands and slapped a Silencer mask on me. Gimped me up, they did. Just looked like a normal church, right, but the doors were locked. They took me inside and it was all, like, the bodies just strung up high, like some fucking sideshow

[CENSORED]: And then?

Nugent: I burned the ropes and then, I don't know, I just saw red. Punched one guy and he went flying, threw the benches around to break on 'em. When I was done I took a knife from one of them and cut a few up. But then I thought, why not do to them what they did to us, right? So I pulled the nails out of the pews and used them as makeshift crosses, and I pushed them up onto it and started putting 'em up, one by one.

[CENSORED]: And none of them stopped you? There were twenty-three people there.

Nugent: Yeah, and they were worth shit against a Homo Majus, right? I strung 'em up and left them outside as a warning. What I didn't realise it there was another guy, who'd been hiding, he whacked me as I went to getaway and knocked me out with a chunk of wood. Next thing I know I'm lookin' down the barrel of a gun.

[CENSORED]: I think we've heard enough, your honour.

...


--The prisoner was later found guilty and executed, as per the Mandate. The bodies of the five 'Gifted' lynch victims were interred privately in the Artemis facility in Wisconsin. There was no way of telling if the victims had been Homo Majus or otherwise.--

While their relevance to the Movement and therefore to government enforcement (also we need a name for the soldier guys from the start of this thread, counter-magi are the elite units, what is the whole organization called or at least a generic name for User Mandate enforcement in general?) is minimal these days, Opus Majus is still responsible for much of the terminology still used by both sides today: Homo Majus, Gifted, Ungifted, etc. You can still find pamphlets of Opus propaganda circulating in the larger cities today, and see counterculture members wearing their symbols on t-shirts like the face of Che Guevara.

However, the best evidence indicates that they were never strongly connected to the main body of The Movement, and instead flared up and then sputtered largely on their own.

That was, until this video surfaced of a recent incident, depicting a figure we believe is the metaphysical terrorist known by the alias "Pankrator" - the top lieutenant of Opus Majus in its heyday last decade.

The resurfacing of Pankrator could mean that the mysterious leader of the organization could be active again, somewhere in the deepest and darkest corners of The Movement underworld; but that is just conjecture.

>>16524157

The Ministry

(Shortened from the Ministry for Majus Management and Containment) Or MMMC.

Someone archive this thread. It's beautiful...

>>16524157
Orderlies?

>>16524182

I can imagine MMMC on the shoulder of some trooper's armour, with some badassed visor (the OP mentioned something about a kind of helmet?)

>>16524182

In the spirit of inter-agency nicknames (CIA guys calling M-6 "Mischief Inc." for example), I imagine the Ministry are sometimes referred to as Mischief Makers; and among nerds Mage Mashers.

Bumping for epic thread

>>16524191

I'm with this guy. Anyone got an archive link? I think I wanna run with this setting. Sounds fun.

>>16524488

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/requestinterface.html

Archive link for those interested.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/16521370/

>>16524587

thank you

Yeah, um, most Users in my sector turn up around breakfast places. Waffle houses, ihops, bagel stores. If it sells breakfast, there is a good chance that the customers have recieved a more exciting wake up than coffee. Abyone else get weird patterns like that? Cause lets face it, weird patterns go hand in hand with a setting like this

This needs more fluff. Maybe flesh out the factions a bit more, (We've got The Movement and Opus Majus on the side of the Gifted, the Ministry, the Counter-Maji (Counter-Maji Response Department or something?) on the Ungifted side). Maybe other human organisations from around the world (A Korean nationalist Maji army springs to mind)

Bear in mind that just because organisations may be grouped on either side of the Gene Divide, they make not work with or even like one another.

>>16524587

Hey my archive turned up. I thought it hadn't gone through.

Needs more evil.
I think the Governments should have the only known living "Alpha" class in containment and incarcerated, and using his blood to artificially augment or even accelerate the creation of higher tier'd Users.

I think there should be scandals where an innocent little girl identified as a potential Beta Class gets killed in public, caught on camera, that kind of thing.

Also, you cant have a campaign setting about opressed minorities suffering from exploitation without a Magneto.

You gotta have a Magneto.

>>16524855

He should be more of a Hitler-style leader, though, someone charismatic (maybe even not that powerful) but secretly totally evil and power-hungry.

Or the guys running Human society are actually all Betas who want to eliminate all other Users to secure their own powerbase?

It's a strange situation, this. I don't think it could ever end truly peacefully - until one genus (you remember we're talking about a minority with a huge evolutionary advantage) destroys the other, there will always be conflict and strife, I think...

I sat in the cafe, nursing lukewarm coffee, and staring into the plate of quickly cooling roast beef that remained untouched since it had arrived. I'm hungry, but I can't stop thinking, and when I get to thinking, I remember. There are some kids in a booth not too far away, and like most other people in this day and age, the conversation is about 'The Gifted'. Once in a while, one of them shoots an icy look at me, filled with contempt because I'm wearing my uniform...

'It's almost more than I can stand... It's too much...' I think to myself, before remembering that I've been through some stuff that could be considered 'much worse'. In my time with the CMARTF, (or 'Counter-Maji Armed Response Task Force' as it's known when not put into an unflattering acronym) I've seen some shit that would make the hair on the heads of those kids turn white and fall out... They don't understand. They cannot understand.

My hand is trembling, I set the cup down noisily, and push away from the counter, throwing a handful of bills that may or may not be too much for the dinner I didn't eat. I want to walk out, and go to the place I should have an hour and a half ago... Some place filled with lots of liquor.

The enlightened politicians are two-faced jackals, who simultaneously acclaim the 'human rights' of the Maji, and send men like me to go and kill those of them that are deemed to be too much of a threat. One of these seemingly innocent Maji seems to be one of the more popular members of the group of kids that now unexpectedly stands in the way, barring my exit.

"Where are you going Soldier Boy? You didn't finish your rations!" Mocks the little Maji filth. His friends snicker, and pat him on the back. I remember fighting against a Kappa two months before, and the flashback brings a cold sweat to my brow.

"Look! The tough guy is scared!" the little inhuman monster bleats... His sheeple continue to heap praise upon him, like some kind of congregation.

[CONT]

I like this setting.

It's like Modern Urban Fantasy Fucking Afghanistan.

>>16524687

(From the Majus Indentification and Control Manual)

...almost all Users are more skilled with certain disciplines during the day than they are at night, and vice-versa. Practices pertaining to biological processes or physical manipulation (Telekinesis, for example) seem to become easier during daylight, similarly, 'metaphysical' Practice (anything that seemingly violates the laws of physics) (such as mind-control, conjuring fire or lightening, partial or complete invisibility or Chronomanipulation), seem to be easier at night. This is seemingly the cause of UV light on Users, and has been confirmed by the use of UV torches on Users during combat situations at nighttime.

In a combat situation, Users are arguably more dangerous at night, so it is advised to conduct operations during daylight hours, or with heavy UV light support....

>>16524985
[CONT]

"I just want to go home..." I mumble, too tired to be patriotic, or defend the honour of fallen comrades. They don't move. "Why? What are you gonna do baby-killer?" Asks the Maji, "If you touch me, the cops'll have you locked up, it's a genus-crime to attack a Maji you know!"

His idle threats bring a little smile to my face. The kind you get when you know a hilarious little secret. Just like they taught me, I focus my will to hide my secrets... He may not be a telepath, but I'm not willing to take the chance.

"Do something Fascist!" Calls out one of the cronies to the Majis left... By now, the Waitress behind the counter has gone off to hide in the back. Nobody wants to have anything to do with situations like this...

"Please..." I repeat, one last time. There is a sensation in the air... Like ozone, or the moment before lightning strikes. Whatever this Maji is doing while he sickeningly grins at me is nothing but bad news.

I'm well trained, but I'm no superhuman. There are eight of them, and one of them is a Maji. Just one of me, without any of the technology that keeps Mankind competitive against foes like the one standing in front of me. Wearing the uniform was a mistake... These kids were looking for a fight.

Just like that time five years ago... During the panic, before the laws that protect the monsters were put in place. When Soldiers like me had to hunt them down... The flashbacks are all coming back to me, all the fear, anger, hate, and pain.

Two days later, I am dead. The Maji fried me like a roast chicken. Humanity hasn't been neutered entirely, it would seem... A public outcry against the abuse of power in Maji-Centric neighbourhoods arises.

The irony...

This time, the Maji shot first.

goddammit this needs a system.

what system would this play well in?

>>16525145
ummm, fff, Iunno, so mod of d20 or maybe a teched-down eclipse phase?

perhaps BESM

>>16525145
GUMSHOE, like Esoterrorists? Perhaps too narrative
ORE? It's gritty enough

Psychic: The Shroud

I know it doesn't exist, but NWoD would be a good place to start.

>>16525185
wasn't the original idea to run Mage versus Hunter with the paradox somehow nullified?

Or perhaps the older orders of mages got wiped out and now every new mages is essentially rediscovering their heritage while the Hunters go public with everything, making it that much harder to hide the inevitable paradox that winds up putting more militant blame on awakening Mages and dragging the fight even morei nto the public eye causing yet more paradoxes to blow up and terrorize the mortal populace

fuck, man, I like it

>>16525290

Perhaps some event that triggered mutation to the gene in people.

>>16525306
don't Mages reincarnate when they die?

so if the Hunter go public with an Anti-mage pogrom, then the more they kill Mages the more Mages seem to pop up out of nowhere, but there is an actual maximum rate at which the Mages can be killed/reincarnated

this is hilarious

>>16524855
>>16524912

The point of this is to give both sides villanous and heroic overtones. A Homo Majus committing acts of terrorism to distract authorities from secret caravans of innocent Gifted leaving the city, a Merc killing a convent of Magic Users who've been using mindraping powers to run a child pornography and human slavery ring...

I hope to god this lore doesn't go the way of so many Humans vs. Magic systems and basically make the human side destined to lose. I want to see an actual setting where both stand an equal chance of winning for once. Maybe the magic interferes with technology to an extent. With properly shielded technology, such as those used by the Mercs, it can operate, but when being used by a Homo Majus, the proximity to that magic means it'll bug out all the time. So low-level Alphas and betas can still use most forms of technology, but anything above a certain point can only rely on primitive level tech and their magic, to balance it out. As it is right now, things are unbalanced in the way of the mages.

>>16525349

I don't think it would fit the setting.

The idea is that there are a lot of low-level magi, often ordinary, law-abiding people, blamed as a whole for the actions of radicals, or the misguided accidents of a few super-powerful ones, like a kid who turned a whole village into stone.

It's about essentially how humans turn on one another.

A group of sufficiently powerful Users get together and fuck off to Europa, and start a colony there.

Some few-hundred years later, humanity expands into the solar system and comes into contact with a small empire of Users spread across the moons of Jupiter.

Depending on whether normal man eliminated their Users or assimilated them, this could be an extremely hostile encounter or the start of a great friendship.

>>16525449

Or vice-versa, Humans fuck off and do their shit elsewhere. You also have to consider that a human might give birth to a maji, or vice-versa, since what actually causes the mutation still isn't really known.

>>16525422

Agreed. Though I wouldn't want it to be such a plain stalemate.

Maybe humanity can win a lot of battles between soldiers and untrained Maji, but perhaps politicians and public outcry prevents them from winning the war. Society itself harbors the magic users.

To make it a little clearer, since I'm basically just rambling:

The government is evenly divided between extermination/Control and Understanding/Freedom. This self-defeating bureaucracy prevents them from doing anything more than sending task forces to stop radical Maji organisations.

>>16525422

Yeah, it needs to be balanced, and try to avoid cliché. The powers of 90% of magi need to be limited, or certainly reduced to where they're just as vulnerable as anyone else under teh right circumstances.

>>16525470
That's also possible, but if the humans can randomly give birth to a User, then running elsewhere won't really work. Also, I assumed we were using fairly modern tech, and we don't have the capacity to travel to and colonize other celestial bodies.

A bunch of Users, on the other hand, could magic up a solution fairly easily.

>>16525481

Good idea. It'll add the political side of the setting as well. Do you follow the orders of your organization and continue receiving funding and support, or do you try to be more proactive (whether that means stepping up combat to take out more Maji or canceling missions on targets that don't have enough evidence to be linked to the crimes), and lose your government backing?

On the Maji side, would you be willing to attack a government building of a town that's been known to discriminate against your kind, and lose public face, or defend a normal human who's been falsely accused by Maji groups of racist actions and is now in danger of being killed by retaliatory attacks, but be seen as a "traitor" by your more radical kin?

The Movement, perhaps, are an underground (read: treated as criminal) organisation who take it upon themselves to police the Magi community. They are zealously protective of their own against Homo Sapiens, and are major advocates of Magi Rights, but also deal harsh, brutal justice to Magi who 'violate' the Movement's laws, or threaten the Magi's public image, in order to preserve the fragile peace between the Gene Divide (since they know that if it ever gets really bad, the Magi will probably lose).
Whilst law enforcement and the Movement's activities often clash, many police forces tend to look the other way when particularly troublesome or sensitive Maji incidents occur, seeing it as both practically and politically easier to let the community deal with it themselves.

>maji suppressed (most powerful/dangerous killed, rest trained and brainwashed)
>alien contact
>aliens have their own maji
>humanity at serious disadvantage b/c they destroyed their magic support
>huge rush to get maji back
>race against time, and against those who want revenge

yes/no?

>>16525547
>>16525566

The Opus Majus and the Movement would have some major disagreements then. This could be very, very interesting....

COME AT ME BRO

>>16525594

Right? Once both sides stand a fair chance of winning, and have inner conflict, the game becomes a lot less cliched and more intriguing.

>>16525610

You could have some badassed stories about cornered MMMC being 'saved' by Movement agents from Opus radicals (and then promptly expelled from the neighborhood).

>>16525603

Some drawfag do something like this, but with the guy in modern clothing.

>Name: The Sapien Commission
>Designation: Genus-Crime related Terrorist Organization.
>Strength: Unknown. Estimated 100,000+
>MO: Car bombings, assassinations, vandalism, theft, assault, etc.

The Sapian Commission seems, at first glance, to be more like a Neo-Nazi racial hate gang. This isn't far from the truth of course, but the reality is a little stranger than fiction. The ranks of this terrorist organization will recruit anyone who can prove to be 'Homo Sapien'. Ethnicity, or religion has little to do with the recruiting process.

Although their usual activities are only slightly within the realm of terrorism, the fact is that this organization, and members in it, are violently fanatical, and will often hunt down perceived Maji.

'Official' policy mandated by the founders of the group, claim that all potential Maji are to be tested first, but often times, members of this rapidly growing faction fail to do this, and kill anyone accused of being a Maji.

Not unlike a modern inquisition... Of the unruly mob variety.

It's a piss-poor mockup, but maybe seeing something like this spraypainted lets Maji know they're safe - but lets /both/ sides know not to cause any trouble.

let us not forget, also, about your typical underworld dealings. Maji and Humans both can just as easily succumb to drugs, drink, human trafficking, etc. The more crime-friendly areas would often have a higher mix of the population, both often after the same things.

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It would be interesting if Maji have to deal, as a counterculture, with organized crime as a necessary evil ally; and The Ministry have to deal with backseat driving politicians and Our Corporate Sponsors as a necessary evil (from the perspective of they make your job harder and put your friends in jeopardy for stupid bullcrap) ally.

Even the bulk of the Maji underground/Maji-centric communities, basically governed by the Movement, would have to be permissive of a certain level of non-violent crime: contacts in the criminal underworld are necessary for forging ID's, smuggling people in and out of places, and laundering cash. And not only would those favors need repaid, but if you are already smuggling people, smuggling guns/drugs/stolen goods becomes a natural revenue stream you can perform concurrently.

It also seems like The Movement's legal code it enforces on Maji is a bit of "do what you will without harming anybody else", so things like selling drugs, not paying taxes, squatting in abandoned buildings, sapping power and water from the grid, and ignoring customs enforcement and border security would not really seem like crimes to them.

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Of course, Opus would have a more adverserial relationship: regular Maji are great - useful abilities, a black market, Movement guys won't hassle you for moving product or hot items; whereas Opus are, seen as anyway, dangerous anti-human terrorists. The mafia rolled on fascists, why wouldn't they roll on Opus? But at the same time, these are the serious arms smugglers, the guys who are serious about high-level international black revenue streams, etc.

My best guess is that street gangs, outlaw motorcycle clubs, and the various nth-generation immigrant mobs like the mafia and irish mob would be the ones The Movement has contact with; whereas Opus would have ties with highly internationalized groups without national loyalty to the U.S. like the Yakuza, Russia Mafiya, Triads, etc. Groups that still retain the majority of their powerbase in other countries and have large international black market networks.

Just my thoughts.

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