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  • File : 1316466315.jpg-(628 KB, 1184x1020, 1316115900675.jpg)
    628 KB PARTINAX ASTARTES THREAD Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)17:05 No.16354978  
    continued from >>>16350251

    The Partinax Astartes, otherwise known as the Obstinate Marines, are the unstoppable forces, the Emperor's Juggernauts. In the previous thread we discussed their history, generated some fluff, now is time for the hard graft - we need to figure out how to properly stat this homebrew and roll it.

    All drawfags welcome, all writefags welcome.

    Thread Theme Music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ1GbBlS9wM
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:07 No.16355001
    Do we have a 1d4chan article yet? Because this is definitely worthy of being archived in such a manner.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:07 No.16355006
    >>16354964

    Most glorious of all glories, Drawfag.

    I'm curious. Could we draw some as beakies? I think that would really work, with the shape of their armor and their helmets.
    >> Brother Contumacious 09/19/11(Mon)17:08 No.16355011
    Aight lets get this shit started
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:09 No.16355020
    Like the marines that this tread is about there shall all ways be a Partinax Astartes tread marching through tg.
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)17:09 No.16355021
    >>16355010

    They'd go right through the fucking thing.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:09 No.16355023
    we need to get a long living terminator drawn

    with all the extra armor and everything
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)17:10 No.16355034
    >>16355020

    at least for the next couple of days until it inevitably moves to 14dchan
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:10 No.16355036
    I'll create a 1d4chan article, since no one else has.

    Give me a few minutes.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:10 No.16355038
    Oh great more homebrew spacemarines.
    >> God-Emperor of Mankind 09/19/11(Mon)17:11 No.16355047
    I wish the real chapters would spike back. Maybe i'd have some incentive to write/draw...
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:12 No.16355062
    >>16355038

    If you don't like it don't post.

    Oh shit I'm feeding a troll aren't I?
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:12 No.16355068
    As they are the unstoppable force, they are also the immovable object.

    When two Obstinate Marines meet one another on the field of battle coming in opposite directions, there is only one thing they can do.

    They go faster.

    Each one grasps the other by the forearm, and activating their jump packs, they spin in the air and fling one another in the direction they were originally going - the centrifugal force propelling them faster than they could ever walk alone.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:13 No.16355081
    >>16355062
    DISREGARD HIM, FOR HE CAUSES DEVIATION FROM THE PATH TO THE OBJECTIVE. DO NOT STOP, FOR THE STRIDE CAN NEVER STOP.
    >> Brother Contumacious 09/19/11(Mon)17:15 No.16355094
    The troll will feed The March soon enough. That which stands in our way simply propels us to greater glory.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:15 No.16355095
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    >>16355006
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:15 No.16355104
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    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)17:16 No.16355108
    So. It's been mentioned that they might wear Power Boots, so we can port the stats over from Codex: Angry Marines if it's decided they have them.

    Also, I don't think they'd use normal Bolters, rather bolt pistols and a shield, power fist or somesuch, since the unstoppable advance would naturally bring them into close combat most of the time.
    I was thinking, at the start of the battle, each squad rolls a 1d6 on every single enemy squad. on a 5+, that enemy becomes the squad's target - they will constantly move toward them, using whatever advancement rules we come up with, until that enemy unit is destroyed, at which point THEN they can be given orders, to reflect their single-minded nature. If no 5+ rolls are had aon a squad, they can be controlled normally (until they're given a new target, at which point same rule applies).
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:16 No.16355115
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    >> Brother Non Enim Desinit Homo 09/19/11(Mon)17:17 No.16355128
    >>16355081

    You are right brother I shall continue to the objective.
    I WILL STOP FOR NO ONE!
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:18 No.16355137
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    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:18 No.16355145
    >>16355108
    Perhaps they are the only chapter to wield the much feared power shield?
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    >> Brother Contumacious 09/19/11(Mon)17:18 No.16355148
    >>16355108

    Tactical marines are further up in the wedge, correct? So they should have close combat weapons. Hammers seem like something the chapter would like.

    Devestator marines would weigh more, due to their extra equipment, so they would be further back in the wedge, allowing them to use their longer range weapons more effectively.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:19 No.16355159
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    i wish i had this drawfag's info
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:20 No.16355168
    Shouldn't they have pre heresy style armor? Because they're still doing the great crusade thing, haven't stopped to bother about this Heresy nonsense.
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)17:20 No.16355170
    >>16355148

    They could never stop to deploy though - maybe some kind of wheeled mount for them to deploy the bolter devastator on? (with a suitable reduction in accuracy)
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:21 No.16355175
    >>16355159
    you may refer to me as Shwig,but don't tell anybody.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:22 No.16355183
    >>16355170
    I think their army-wide special rule should be Relentless. Even their devastators are constantly advancing.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:23 No.16355192
    Why? Let's just give them magical snowflake armor, it's all just fanwank anyway. MK 9 WEDGE ARMOR IS GO.
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)17:24 No.16355193
    >>16355145

    That could be, yes.... It helps in the Advance, so power shields seem to be a good idea.
    >> Brother Contumacious 09/19/11(Mon)17:24 No.16355194
    >>16355168

    There armour would probably be barely recognizable underneath all the modifications.
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)17:25 No.16355210
    >>16355183

    yeah... I'll have to dig through the codexes to see if there's any other rules that can be applied to the Advance.
    >> Brother Non Enim Desinit Homo 09/19/11(Mon)17:26 No.16355215
    Where would we place the Dreadnoughts?
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:26 No.16355220
    >>16355192
    Fanwank or not, wouldn't it be glorious if you could actually field this army on the table?

    Better obey the rules.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:26 No.16355221
    They >do< stop. Only out of combat, long enough to load into their ships and fly to their next objective.

    Unless their librarians teleport the ENTIRE to a new objective...

    >Meanwhile in the eye of Terror
    Abbadon: What now...what conquests might I do to bring the favor of chaos upon me like Warmaster Horus did...what..what in the great powers is that noise?
    -THUDD -THUDD -THUDD -THUDD -THUDD
    Is tha-CRASH-
    -CRUNCH-
    -TRAMPLE-
    -BOOM-
    -Zzztttt-teleportout-
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)17:27 No.16355229
    One loyal brother said he was going to put together a 14dchan page, link it when you're done, I'll add some stuff to it.

    WE NEED TO GET SOME RULES DOWN, even just enough for playtesting
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:27 No.16355233
    I imagine they have a particular fondness for Vindicators, but often times they forget it has a demolisher cannon.
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)17:29 No.16355242
    >>16355221

    No, they don't. Read the fluff in the last thread. Thunderhawks open the front ramps and scoop them up when they're done. Battle-barges await to lift the planetary Processions when they're done. They never. Stop. Moving.
    >> Brother Contumacious 09/19/11(Mon)17:29 No.16355246
    >>16355221

    Well this brings up an interesting thought. Are they ALWAYS moving? Say techmarine 331 is making bolters; does he jog in place at his workstation? Or are marines/personnel that are on some kind of transport, or piloting said transport, or some similar situation allow to stand still?
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:29 No.16355252
    >>16355193
    I've got it.

    To be given the honor of using the power shield means that one must be positioned at the very tip of the wedge, and must bear the brunt of all that stands in the way of the imperium.
    These are the brothers that are the most ready to pierce through the hearts of those that oppose mankind and create a new path for the imperium to progress.
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)17:30 No.16355256
    >>16355233

    So? They fire it whilst moving. I mean, not that they expect it to HIT anything, but fuckit, one of the half-dead dreadnoughts welded to the side will probably hit something.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:30 No.16355257
    >>16355242
    Though there's no point in them walking INSIDE their own ships, so, they do stop walking, at least.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:31 No.16355265
    >>16355242

    So I say they aren't allowed to hold any units in reserve... ever.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:31 No.16355269
    http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Obstinate_Marines

    I've started the article, but a lot needs to be done.

    If some good friends could upload these pics to 1d4chan while I work on writing things up, it would be appreciated.

    Please don't edit the article for a bit. I'm working on it.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:31 No.16355271
    >>16355257
    They more or less jog in place when in their ships. I imagine them to be like wind turbines in that they may cease up if they stop moving completely.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:31 No.16355272
    HQ should have a special rule where he gets one more full game turn of actions even after he has lost his last wound.

    EVEN IN DEATH I DON'T STOP.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:32 No.16355274
    >>16355242
    thunderhawks have to land...
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)17:33 No.16355285
    >>16355257

    Doesn't mean they like to stop.
    However, remember it's only those with the gene-seed who can't stop moving, auxiliaries would just be normal people caught in the wake of the unstoppable Advance.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:33 No.16355288
    >>16355257
    To the contrary, when they are in their ships they are constantly training.

    So they march into the ship into the training quarters, and do not stop moving. Ever. Period.
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)17:33 No.16355294
    >>16355274

    > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerial_refueling
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:34 No.16355297
    >>16355285

    Enter: the first treadmills designed for Space Marine use.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:35 No.16355315
    >>16355297
    The ones that power the tank treads that the whole thing moves on?
    >> Brother Contumacious 09/19/11(Mon)17:36 No.16355322
    Alright, full members with gene-seed are incapable of stopping motion.

    Chapter surfs, auxiliaries, and personnel are normal (civilians, workers, techpriests) and provide services marines can not. These can be the people who come up with Chapter Emblems, and produce all the supplies.

    For the emblem, how about a chevron? Really simple, looks like a wedge, and can easily be painted upon units, even when in full motion.
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)17:37 No.16355328
    >>16355322

    as was mentioned in the last thread? why not just a boot? Stylized, maybe....
    >> Brother Contumacious 09/19/11(Mon)17:39 No.16355352
    >>16355328

    The boot was my idea, but people seemed to think ti didn't fit the fluff for them to have an emblem.

    I personally think they should. I know they "don't give a fuck", and don't have time, but the chapter serfs could.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:39 No.16355353
    guys, come on
    from old thread:
    >They attack as a permanent existence. Lighter and faster troops and vehicles arrive first, sowing destruction and confusion, pushing past the front line into the enemy rear to continue raiding and marking resources caches.
    While the enemy scrambles to deal with the sudden overrun, the main forces appears on the horizon as a massive cloud of dust that blots out the sun. Battle brothers, terminators, dreadnaughts and heavy armor units slam into the disorganized front like a tidal wave hitting a marina. Casualties are ignored, those who run out of ammo simply abandon weapons on the spot and grab anything they can to continue their march. As this wave of death rolls over the enemy, the massive titan forges and rolling factories the size of small cities appear. These are tended by teeming multitudes of servitors and tech marines, who salvage fallen soldiers, vehicles, resources, raw ores are harvested from the bleeding earth by massive mining servitor units the size of warehouses. Noxious fumes from gargantuan war forges choke and cloud the skies as a 5 mile wide tide of mobile industry consumes all in it's path.
    They take weeks to pass, from the first scout to the last scrap-servitor, and all that is left in their wake is scorched, blasted dirt that has been churned into a bog slickened by the blood of those foolish enough to try and stop their march.
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)17:40 No.16355363
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53c8reh_uh0

    I beleive this thread needs new theme music
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:40 No.16355365
    Why not just a triangle with the point facing the marines front.

    Even their iconography are always facing the objective
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:40 No.16355372
    >>16355328
    There were four viable ones:
    >Imprint of a Boot, from the Techpriests kciking them out of the workshop after having more armor bolted on.
    >A grey stripe on the shoulder, from a paintbrush stuck the wall of a corridor somewhere that everyone walks past, and no one has noticed.
    >A chevron, stamped on by techpriests
    >No symbol, they haven't bothered.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:41 No.16355377
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    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:41 No.16355379
    you guys are smarter than this. This isnt some star trek planet of hats bullshit where theyre all 'hikes for the hike god! boots for the boot throne! Theyre relentless in getting from where they drop to where their objective is. Unless you guys really think they get to a take and hold and walk circles all day around it. but thats retarded.
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)17:42 No.16355392
    >>16355353

    where's the archive of the old thread?
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:43 No.16355394
    >>16355372
    I myself am quite partial to the whole "having no symbol because of not having time for that shit" approach, it really speaks to their fixation on completing their tasks and having time for nothing else.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:44 No.16355410
    >>16355102
    Are you Niklas? Because your style looks like the style of Niklas.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:44 No.16355411
    >>16355315


    This gives me an awesome idea, Obstinate Marines need to bust down a Chaos fortress wall but their Land Raider's treads were taken out by a lucky krak missile. They try their best to wedge their way in on foot but to their shock they do not succeed. As small arms fire dances around them the brother marines rush over to the Land Raider wreck and carve out the bottom floor and plant their feet firmly on the ground and begin to push the Land Raider(Flinstones style). The Land Raider slowly starts to gain speed and their enemies frantically struggle to finish the Obstinate marine propelled machine. The Land Raider reaches extraordinary speeds before it finally crashes into the fortress wall and continues to plow through half the city. The Land Raider was supposed to be christened a name but then the Obstinate Marines realized they had a battle to fight, however it has gained a reputation among the enemies of the Obstinate Marines, known simply as: "That Fucking Land Raider".
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)17:44 No.16355412
    >>16355379

    >'hikes for the hike god! boots for the boot throne!'

    Oh fuck I lol'd.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:44 No.16355413
    >>16355145
    Even an Astartes Partinax must surely fall before the might of a *CLANG*

    WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT?
    >> Brother Contumacious 09/19/11(Mon)17:44 No.16355414
    >>16355379

    I'm not partial to the whole "they have to walk while inside their ships thing", but as a force, they do not take and hold objectives, at least for no longer than it takes for their March to pass it.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:45 No.16355415
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    working on the termie,opinions on what weapons to give to him?
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)17:46 No.16355428
    >>16355411

    Save that, drop it in the 14dchan page, I'll write it up as proper writefaggotry
    >> Brother Contumacious 09/19/11(Mon)17:46 No.16355430
    >>16355415

    Bolt pistol, and thunderhammer. Or bolt pistol and powershield.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:47 No.16355431
    >>16355379
    Their really is no down time for them. It wouldn't be that they would walk around in circles on a take and hold... they wouldn't do a take and hold because that is against their nature.

    If the reason why they must hold a position is because of an expected enemy attack then they would, instead of holding position, move forward and attack them.

    I figure that rides between planets must be pretty hellish for them though.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:47 No.16355436
    The constantly moving part is just dumb bullshit and is trying too hard to play on the comedic side of this Chapter. Just have it so that they seethe in their chambers while they wait for the next battle, the longer they wait the worse it gets.
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)17:47 No.16355441
    Managed to find the brave brother's page: http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Obstinate_Marines - dump the copypasta in there
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:47 No.16355442
    >>16355353
    that being said, let's please not take this full retard.

    They're a mobile force, that does not mean individual marines can never stop walking. That's (with all due respect, gentlemen) . . .
    fucking stupid.

    Thunderhawks and battle barges carry out planetary lifting duties of the mobile fortresses and cathedral-forges. Rhino transports move battle brothers between repair depots or barracks and the front of the column.
    Marines are rotated out of action for repair/re-armament/refit/food/sleep.
    The point is that they are rotated of combat into a barracks, which is on tracks, and always moving.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:48 No.16355454
    >>16355415
    see
    >>16355410
    >> Someone else. !!Qb2aRW+wCPO 09/19/11(Mon)17:48 No.16355458
    >>16355436
    I actually prefer that.

    I'd even go so far as to say that they would gladly accept help from other elements of the Imperial military because it makes the 'wading through the enemy to get to their headquarters' bit easier.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:49 No.16355467
    >>16355431
    Actually, part of the fluff that was written for them was that the Blood Ravens would often cooperate with the Obstinate marines, in that they would hold down locations for the obstinate marines while simultaneously receiving "gifts" from the held position.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:49 No.16355469
    Dark Heresy DM here. Should I have these marines show up as a cameo? What would their stats/rules be for crushing idiot PCs in their way?
    >> Brother Non Enim Desinit Homo 09/19/11(Mon)17:50 No.16355477
    >>16355392

    http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/16350251/
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:51 No.16355479
    >single minded focus on thier objective, ignoring anything that isnt a threat to them
    became
    >walk, walk walk, walk, GODDAMNIT, I HAVE TO STOP MOVING FOR 5 FUCKING SECONDS FUCK! Everything moves, even our buildings!

    Shame. this had awesome potential.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:51 No.16355486
    >>16355454
    >>16355454
    no im not niklas.
    >> Brother Contumacious 09/19/11(Mon)17:52 No.16355490
    >>16355442

    Agreed.

    I do think there should be massed foot marches as well though. The marines should have a mutation that makes it extremely difficult for them to remain idle, as well as their single-mindedness.

    They should always be doing busy work. Repairing armour, training, skrimshaw, what have you.

    And for some, they just like to march.
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)17:52 No.16355497
    I think what we need is a balance - so many they're not walking ALL the time, but certainly they do NOT like standing still, no matter what the reason.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:53 No.16355503
    >>16355415
    Whatever and a shield. I figure the termies would be the tips of the spear; maybe not the shootiest, but they need to be monstrously hard.
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)17:53 No.16355508
    http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Talk:Obstinate_Marines

    Dump any and all copypasta in here, I'll sort it out later on.
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)17:54 No.16355513
    >>16355469

    well that's what this thread was supposed to be about realising.....
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:54 No.16355514
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    Just a quicky sketch I did for this.
    I really like this whole damn concept.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:54 No.16355521
    >>16355467
    I did see that, but I was going off the idea that if no Blood Ravens were present, or any other sizable force really, to defend a location what would they do? Because I know sure as hell that they wouldn't sit there themselves.

    Also it would be awesome if a drawfriend could draw a Parintax marine with a couple Blood Ravens following behind him in the style of a Pilot Fish.

    Link for reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilot_fish
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:56 No.16355537
    >>16355521
    I think what would happen in that instance, would be that that if the position was the marines' main objective, they would capture it, and then return to base and have someone else sent to handle it then.
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)17:57 No.16355555
    >>16355479

    Then get involved and pull it back - I see what you guys mean, we shouldn't run with it TOO far lest it get too ridiculous.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)17:59 No.16355568
    >>16355555
    A sign from the emperor, quintuple fives.

    Perhaps strike some of the latest developments from the record, then?
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)18:00 No.16355576
    >>16355508

    The wiki is fucking awesome until I got to the march stuff, apparently they quickly got transformed into the ADHD marines since the last thread.
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)18:00 No.16355579
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    Whoever is writing that 14dchan page, keep fucking going, that's beautiful.
    >> Brother Contumacious 09/19/11(Mon)18:00 No.16355582
    >>16355537

    Sure. Obstinate Marines take, but they do not hold.

    They could work closely with other chapters. When they destroy all opposition, another chapter, or the navy, or IG comes in to hold it.

    I like the idea of an endless land train of factories and habs, and the idea that they are inexorably marching away from galactic center, toward unknown space.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)18:01 No.16355589
    >>16355555
    Yes fair enough. So the edicts of being an obstinate marine are basically "You have your mission. Do it, and never falter no matter the circumstance."

    So if that is their underlining idea it would be plausible, although not to comfortable for them to go about with defensive operations if no other ally is present to do such things for them.
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    >>16355479

    Fuck the walking, this isn't the Forrest Gumpmarines. They're incapable of INACTION. The squad accomplishes their OBJECTIVES as quickly and efficiently as possible. If that squad's orders are "take that bridge", consider that motherfucker got. If that squad's orders are "Return to the Monasterytank for refit and rest, they will be resting and refitting like fucking PROs. A---->B, no waiting. You do not want to be anywhere in the region of ---->

    As for the symbol, how about sometihng on the order of...
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)18:03 No.16355612
    >go on 1d4chan to see what the excitement is about
    >The loyalty of the Obstinate Marines is to the Great Crusade. When the Horus Heresy occurred they took no note - they were too busy conquering new worlds to bother with Chaos.

    Seriously?
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)18:03 No.16355614
    >>16355582
    NO! I got it! they can all carry treadmills! Then they can walk all day, and still be useful in any regard.

    BROTHERS! WE HAVE CAPTURED THE FORTRESS! DEPOLY TREADMILLS IN ALL CHOCKE POINTS! WERE GONNA BE HERE AWHILE!
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)18:04 No.16355624
    Have we forgotten about the multi-titan that serves as the main headquartes for the Obstinate Marines? I feel that it should be better represented/known about.
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)18:05 No.16355633
    >>16355614

    Damn, we might be moving away from the idea of EVERY MARINE NEVER STOPS WALKING but damn, that's a funny quote.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)18:05 No.16355635
    >>16355624

    It's still there, and now it's collided into an asteroid that they've assimilated into FUCK YEA. Getting dangerously close to too Orky though.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)18:06 No.16355646
    >>16355635
    Is...is that even possible, though?
    >> Brother Contumacious 09/19/11(Mon)18:06 No.16355652
    >>16355624

    The Fortress Monastery is now more like a giant spacehulk, comprised mainly of an asteroid, with titans, leviathans, and countless other vehicles and detritus adding to its bulk and armour.
    >> Spawn_more_Synaps 09/19/11(Mon)18:07 No.16355660
    >>16355607
    Thank you, I do however like the mobile monostary, the funerary rights, and a couple of the battle cries/mottos, thogh we all have to admit somewhere down the line things got flanderized
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)18:08 No.16355674
    >>16355555
    you must be from the eprah himself. Your timely quints may just have opened some eyes to how out of hand "dont let anything stand in your way" got.
    >> Brother Contumacious 09/19/11(Mon)18:09 No.16355680
    I think rank should be distance related.

    Scouts could be Trekkers, Tactical marines could be Travelers, Terminators could be Voyagers, etc. Any opinion?

    Have we decided that the Chapter Master struck out toward the end of Imperial Space long ago, and no one has seen him in thousands of years? The purpose of the Never Ending March would be to follow in his footsteps.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)18:09 No.16355682
    >>16355652
    It occurs to me.

    They've basically Gurren Lagann'd up a fortress-monastery. When it was first time to get it off world? Just fucking cobble something spacefaring to it.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)18:09 No.16355686
    >>16355652
    Perhaps this could be the very last weapon/resort of the Obstinate Marines: when ordered to perform an exterminatus (or when they need maximum breaching power), they ram the fortress through the targeted planet/location.

    >teatud was
    Yes, I'm sure Teatud was an obstinate marine, too, captcha
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)18:10 No.16355690
    >>16355635

    Yeah... the Asteroid bit can stay. Rather than crash into it, servitor vessels were sent light-years ahead to prepare the asteroid for the Partinaxus arrival. They docked their fleet into it, and use their engines to power the great vessel, having constructed an entire city across it's surface. When a ship is needed seperately, it mearly decouples and flies away.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)18:11 No.16355700
    >>16355624

    Mechanized Great A'tuin. A giant ass tank with the remains of four titans pernched on it's hull, bearing upon their shoulders the mighty Fortress of the Astartes Partinax

    http://www.lspace.org/books/whos-who/images/atuin.jpg
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)18:12 No.16355708
    >>16355674

    I thank you brother! It fell to me to whip this rabble into shape and by the Emperor, this chapter will be His finest by the time I am finished!
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)18:14 No.16355727
    And so the few tales that those hallow ranks of Parintax Astartes began to spread. Of those who had forsaken their attentiveness to the mission for the importance of speed instead. Some whisper of how these dissuaded marines found their way, twisted almost, to the forces of Chaos. Seeking a way to achieve greater speed than ever before.

    These dark horrors tread the realms of the Imperium as a Black Juggernaut, seeking destruction and only the doom of those before them. These hellish walkers of doom.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)18:14 No.16355736
    >>16355690
    >>16355690
    >>16355690


    THIS exactly! Their entire support and logistics forces work with the battle brothers at a level of efficiency that the rest of the imperium finds...unsettling. No politics, no diverging agendas...just The Objective and The Next Objective.
    >> Brother Contumacious 09/19/11(Mon)18:15 No.16355739
    >>16355727
    I think we should get the chapter down first, before messing with heretical Juggernauts.
    >> Spawn_more_Synaps 09/19/11(Mon)18:15 No.16355742
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    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)18:17 No.16355751
    anyone has references for power shield?
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)18:17 No.16355756
    >>16355727
    Slaaneshi? obsessed with the march, dedicated only to perfecting and improving thier movement? The old loyalist ideal of destroy anything that would impede you just a scrap of its fomer ideology fluttering in thier warped psyche? Sounds fun.
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)18:18 No.16355763
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    Fuck, /tg/ you we can GET SHIT DONE.

    Continue! What we need, really now, are exact rules and special tactics. - we can roll it to see if it works, so get thinking!
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)18:18 No.16355764
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    THEY NEED AN OVERSIZED VERSION OF THESE.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)18:18 No.16355767
    This crap about a lack of chapter heraldry is retarded. Loo, kids, it's this simple: As the pauldrons are rolled off the assembly line, they're robosprayed with their warning labels and symbols by servitors. They have a simple heraldic device out of necessity; it's sprayed on with a template, much like the writing on military containers and vehicles.
    >> Watt Mard 09/19/11(Mon)18:18 No.16355768
    rough rules on the marines

    Special Rule:
    I am a Juggernaut.

    Partinax Astartes squads do not stop for the enemy unless it is a threat to them. They continue on to serve their Emperor.

    If an enemy unit has a weapon, ability, or strength with the strength equal to or greater than the toughness or save of a Partinax Astartes Marine, then that unit will head for the threatening enemy (if multiple, then for the highest value nearest to them.)

    Squads may never get pinned. If a pinning test is failed, then take one wound automatically.

    =====

    Never stop. Never surrender.

    Any unit in front of the Partinax Astartes is treated as Tank Shocked (even though the PA are a troop.) - they can choose to stay and fight if they pass their leadership. The following turn, the Partinax Astartes will break close combat and continue to their objective. Unless the enemy in close combat meets the requirements for "I am a Juggernaut"

    Any "retreats" from failed close combat, always go TO the enemy's table edge. As the marines have not loss combat, simply decided upon a better objective off the table.

    Marines may stand their ground, but must take a moral check for every turn they stand still. If they fail, they must move onwards.

    ====
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)18:19 No.16355770
    >>16355751
    Storm shields already exist. If anything, a souped-up one of those.
    >> Watt Mard 09/19/11(Mon)18:20 No.16355784
    Single Minded

    Partinax Astartes marines must ALWAYS move towards the table objectives. Must destroy any (even weak) enemy units at the objective. Then proceed to the next objective on the table. You may designate which units go for what objectives.

    When an objective is taken, it counts as being held by a single troop unit so long as no enemy comes within range again. (Example: A squad takes the objective, kills two ork squads, and move on to the next. That objective counts as being held even though no marine is there; unless the enemy re-takes it.)

    ===

    Forward to Victory

    If there are no objectives on the table, then Partinax Astartes may select the two strongest opponents as their objective compared to the strongest Partinax Astartes unit on table. If no enemy meets these requirements, then the objective is to get as many Partinax Astartes across the table and off the enemy's table edge. Every unit gotten off the board on your opponent's side is a victory point for you.
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)18:20 No.16355785
    >>16355764

    That looks a -lot- like the Devil's Tongue from Tiberian Sun. I wonder which copied which?

    And yeah. That front needs to be on every single Parnitax Predator, Land raider, anything.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)18:21 No.16355789
    >>16355739
    Yes, yes. Fair enough. Just figured it would be fun to point it out since we, the people making the marines, were getting a bit off track with the Always Walking vs. Ultra-focus on the mission.

    I'm thinking they would be slaaneshi by default. Or maybe just undivided living each god's element by the way they operate.

    Perfection for Slaanesh
    Slaughter for Khorne
    (This might be a bit of a stretch) As opposed to the old marines way of thinking they might constantly seek new targets. A sort of changing of ways if you will.
    Can't think of one for ol' Nurgle though.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)18:21 No.16355797
    >OH SHIT, I JUST REALIZED:

    One of their primary objectives is to maintain full strength.
    They still think the Grand Crusade is going on.

    Tell me again, what was the full strength of a Space Marine force during the Grand Crusade?
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)18:23 No.16355804
    1d4chan article writer here.

    I hear you on the flanderization. I've been debating whether or not to write things as a more "realistic" chapter, or a more "over the top" chapter.

    As it is, I'm trying to write up a middle ground.

    Once I'm done, other people can go whatever direction they'd like.

    Also, if you people upload images and give me the file names, I'll make a gallery. I'm not taking the time to upload it myself. I have an objective to complete, and I am undaunted in my task.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)18:23 No.16355807
    >>16355797
    There wasn't one really, but it was typically around 10,000 if I remember correctly
    >> Brother Contumacious 09/19/11(Mon)18:24 No.16355813
    >>16355784
    >>16355768

    Those rules are pretty awesome, reflect their methodology perfectly.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)18:24 No.16355814
    >>16355804
    I thought 40k was all about being realistically over the top?
    >> Brother Contumacious 09/19/11(Mon)18:25 No.16355822
    >>16355814

    Some of the ideas getting tossed around were "realistically retarded"
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)18:25 No.16355823
    I think the "MARCH MARCH MARCH MARCH" thing should be handled like the Sleepless of the Emperor's Nightmares. Normally they're just restless, they always need something to do, and it just gets worse and worse until they CAN'T. STOP. MOVING. EVER.
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)18:25 No.16355824
    >>16355784

    >Single Minded
    This is perfect, and plays exactly how the chapter should feel.


    >Forward To Victory

    Perfect.

    >>16355768
    >Special Rule:
    >I am a Juggernaut.

    We don't have to keep this too serious, why not just make it, "I'M THE JUGGERNAUT, BITCH!"

    >Never stop. Never surrender.

    I like this.
    You, sir, are a gentleman and a scholar. You have made the Chapter proud.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)18:27 No.16355837
    >>16355823
    This. Only the ones that are older (and thus have the most pimped out armor) can never stop moving.

    Instead of beds, the oldest ones have treadmills. Chronic sleepwalking.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)18:27 No.16355838
    >>16355814
    busting through a ruined wall to get to thier objective "unit to be killed, flag to be capped" is realistically over the top. "I'm supposed to capture this point, but my wanderlust is too stroooooooong, so I'mma leave it undefended and keep hiking" is rediculously over the top though.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)18:27 No.16355842
    >>16355804
    As long as you don't make it completely hilarious and impossible to be taken seriously, go for either one.

    Much of the point of 40k is that just about anything could be interpreted as deadly grimdark and serious, or completely hilarious black humour. This chapter should do the same.
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)18:30 No.16355861
    >>16355838

    If they take a point, and move away, it still counts as held, unless an enemy unit moves into capture distance. Since the Partinax move in waves, this shouldn't be an issue much, and it's a very interesting rule for what is shaping up to be a Genghis Khan-esque mobile army.
    >> Librarian Watt Mard 09/19/11(Mon)18:30 No.16355864
    >>16355824

    I must undo the damage of my evil twin, who changed his name... he went back in time to undo the very essence of "Warhammer 40k", the game that our Emperor started to fore-warn civilization.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)18:31 No.16355866
    >>16355789
    The relentless unstoppable attack is very Nurgle. You can run, you can hide, but death is coming, in the forms of Nurgle's tireless marching heralds
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)18:31 No.16355869
    >>16355837
    you

    stop posting
    the horse is dead, the idea is stupid.
    Knock it off.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)18:32 No.16355883
    Why dont we give them a unit or two with the special rule of "cant stop marching". That way it gets represented, its a facet of the chapters personality, and people who feel like thats dumb to try to fight with, can either back them up with units who can hold an objective after one of them takes it, or just not use them at all, for better or worse.
    Even give a chaper hero or 3 the rule.

    Some are single minded on thier orders, some are obsessed with filling thier orders just to get the next objective radioed to them. Seems like a balance to me.
    >> Someone else. !!Qb2aRW+wCPO 09/19/11(Mon)18:33 No.16355894
    No, the eternal movement thing doesn't really make sense.
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)18:34 No.16355902
    >>16355869

    Don't be so quick to jump the gun, brother. The man has a point. Why not gives the marines with the worst of the Impatience mutation jump packs and even more powerful actuators? The Partinax Assault marines, the ones who can never, ever stop moving, who never rest, not for a moment.

    You could even go further with it - the marines most susceptible to heresy would fall to Nurgle if they stopped, and out of fear of this they barely slow down....
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)18:35 No.16355910
    >>16355883
    Perhaps that facet can remain for the recruits/scouts as a test to see if they are worthy of joining the chapter? Instead of this being an eternal march, it is the march to their first objective, which is to become a full battle brother of the chapter.
    >> Brother Contumacious 09/19/11(Mon)18:38 No.16355931
    >>16355902

    I like this idea. It isn't too dissimilar to the Black Rage BA suffer from. The restless or something.

    All Obstinate Marines dislike waiting, so they train, do repairs etc. The Restless take it to the extreme, always moving, always ranging ahead to fight.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)18:39 No.16355944
    >>16355902
    >the ones who can never, ever stop moving, who never rest, not for a moment.

    so, this is a successor chapter of the Space Sharks / Carcharodons then, with that being the flaw in their geneseed?
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)18:39 No.16355945
    >>16355931
    So now we have the Restless, and the Sleepless.
    I feel a trend in the Warp.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)18:39 No.16355949
    >>16355910
    I was actually the first one to say "this is getting rediculous" with the "hikes for the hike god" line. This is a community made chapter though, so if the eternal march can be included in some aspect without being completely rediculous, I dont see why it shouldent.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)18:40 No.16355953
    1d4chan article author here. This is what I've come up with.

    "Some opponents of the chapter have mockingly derided them as "treadmill marines" due to their propensity to never stop moving in the pursuit of an objective or from one objective to another. A common joke among other chapters is to ask them where their treadmills are. In truth, the geneseed flaws of the Obstinate Marines do render them with a severe need to move and act. However, they are also relentlessly single minded and methodical. All of their objectives are achieved with due order and careful preparation. Once objectives have been achieved, it is ensured that they stay achieved through the most efficient and expedient means possible, as none of the Obstinate Marines will stay in one place for too long. As such, their few communications with other chapters or the Imperial guard often consists of requests to hold areas the Partinax have secured. The Blood Ravens Chapter holds an especially close relationship with the Obstinate Marines, often holding objectives after the wedge has passed. As thanks, the Partinax have given them many gifts from fallen brothers and enemies.

    One thing concerning the accusations is true; the Partinax are never at rest. Their geneseed flaw renders them unable to sleep or stay out of motion for long. They are constantly working, moving, and training. When they have no active objective, they ceaselessly tinker with their armor, study tactics, or practice battle tactics with their battle brothers. "

    Do with that what you will.
    >> Brother Contumacious 09/19/11(Mon)18:40 No.16355959
    >>16355945

    I know, can anyone come up with a better name?

    Wont change the fact the concepts are close, but whatever
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)18:42 No.16355983
    >>16355953

    That's bang-on. Well done. It sums up the eternal restlessness as well as not being too ridiculous.

    To anyone else in this thread - that post pretty much defines the Partinax, so refer to that.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)18:43 No.16355996
    >>16355983
    Seconded.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)18:44 No.16356002
    >>16355953
    I like it.
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)18:44 No.16356008
    >>16355953

    Y'know, this also closes another large plot hole - that is, the sheer amount of artifacts the Ravens have 'appropriated' - at least, some of them.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)18:44 No.16356010
    >>16355953
    Brilliant
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)18:47 No.16356028
    >>16355953
    OCD Marines?
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)18:47 No.16356031
    >>16356008
    ... Well it still doesn't explain how they have shit from dozens of other chapters, I doubt THAT many Marines equipped with Relics have stood in front of the Obstinante Marines, but it might explain all the possibly chaos-tainted shit they get their hands on.
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)18:48 No.16356037
    When this thread is finished I'm going to add the writefaggotry in proper to the 14dchan page, as well as proofreading it. We can either continue fleshing them out in another thread, or discuss it some other way later.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)18:49 No.16356043
    >>16356031
    Well, remember that the chapter is quite old to begin with, so it may have had a good number of those relics to begin with.
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)18:50 No.16356047
    >>16356028

    They kind of are, kind of aren't. There is a parallell chapter we discussed in the last thread, the Obsessive Marines. There's a description on the 14dchan page.
    >> 1d4chan Author 09/19/11(Mon)18:50 No.16356055
    >>16356037
    I wrote some of it. I have it pulled up.

    But please dump all of it into the discussion page. I'll put it up as I get to it.

    The Rules are now up. If you think of any more, I'll watch out for them.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)18:51 No.16356063
    Possible rule: Get the %^(£ out of my way.
    If an opponent loses combat, he must move back D(0.5)X inches away - the marines also move with them and both remain in close combat.
    X is the number of marines. Terminators count as 2 marines each, Dreadnoughts 5 with no (0.5) modifier.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)18:52 No.16356071
    Got an idea, but keep in mind I don't eat, sleep, and shit the fluff and am kinda new to 40k so correct me if I get anything wrong.

    I think that the 'never stop ever ever ever' idea is stupid, however, it can still be used in moderation. The Catalepsean Node is supposed to let all space marines avoid sleep, right? Well, make it so that their geneseed can put it into overdrive. Partinax marines still rest when off duty once they've completed their objective and returned to their mobile base, but for those who have been given an objective, they don't sleep or rest until it is completed, the Node nullifies their need for sleep. For those that are returning from an extremely long mission, it is difficult for them to come out of this sleepless trance that the Catalepsean Node has put them in, and the techpriests often have to force them into stasis to break it. However, some marines who have returned from ridiculously long missions can't be broken out of this trance, and truly never stop working. They are transferred to a separate squad of the Obstinate Marines and are constantly given objectives to stop them from going insane from waiting.
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    >>16355953
    >OP comes up with an idea of "Don't give a fuck marines"
    >/tg/ makes it OCD marines
    t-Thanks /tg/
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)18:53 No.16356079
    >>16356055

    I've got the archive bookmarked, as well as needing to finish the one I was writing ('cause fuck, that went on forever).
    >> Brother Contumacious 09/19/11(Mon)18:55 No.16356091
    >>16356071


    I think we should stay away from sleep related things, we've already got the Emperor's Nightmares.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)18:55 No.16356095
    >>16356076
    They still have absolutely 0 fucks to give outside of whatever is the current objective, so it still kinda works.
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)18:55 No.16356099
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    Not OCD... just really. really stubborn. Or perhaps proud - who knows. No-one's gotten an answer from them either way.

    In the end, it amounts to anything less threatening than a tank, they walk through, practically shouting "THIS IS ME GIVING A FUCK."
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)18:58 No.16356127
    >>16356063

    A dreadnought winning is a full 2.5 inches MINIMUM.

    That is one FUCK of a bitch-slap!

    I LOVE IT.
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    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)19:00 No.16356161
    >>16356127
    Dreadnoughts are called Juggernauts for a reason
    >> 1d4chan Author 09/19/11(Mon)19:02 No.16356192
    For those of you who are truly obsessed with the idea of an insignia, I support the Chevron.

    However, I also believe that their wedge shaped armor is distinctive enough that they don't need one.

    But I'll allow /tg/ to decide. I haven't got time for this shit, I've got an article to write.
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)19:02 No.16356196
    >>16356063

    added your rule to the page minus the lack of modifier. The idea of a dreadnought bitchslapping a lesser unit 8" is just too hilarious to ignore.
    >> Certaus The Treader of the Damned 09/19/11(Mon)19:02 No.16356198
    I'll bring it up again since we seem to have a strong foundation for what it is to be a Obstinate Marine, but what should the fallen few of these Stubborn Astartes be? Weak willed? Unsure? Or maybe something like something I brought up in >>16355727

    Name faggotry to make it easier for communication and so on.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)19:03 No.16356205
    THE MEN GO MARCHING ALL DAY LONG (THROUGH WALLS! THROUGH WALLS!)

    AND WHEN ONE FALLS ANOTHER COMES ALONG! (ALONG!)

    THE TECHMARINES, THEY NEVER STOP, REPAIRING THINGS AROUND THE CLOCK!

    AND WHEN NIGHT FALLS, YOU'D THINK THEY'D DROP, BUT PARTINAX, THEY WILL NOT STOP!

    THEY ALL JUST MARCH AH-LOOOONG!

    WHEN DREADNOUGHTS MARCH, ALL THE WALLS WILL FALL! (WILL FALL!)

    THEY BURST RIGHT THROUGH AND NEVER SLOW THEIR WALK! (THEIR WALK!)

    THEY DO NOT SLOW, THEY DO NOT SLEEP, FOREVER WALKING TOWARDS THE PEAK!

    THEIR OB-JEC-TIIIIVE IS SURE TO FAAALLL!

    (refrain ad infinitum)
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)19:04 No.16356217
    >>16356198
    I would say they would be weak willed and too-ready to change course in order to achieve the fastest result. They would follow Tzeetch.
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    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)19:04 No.16356220
    >>16356192

    Not sure about that. Maybe three chevrons arranged vertically?
    A Drawfag needs to do a bunch of concepts.
    >> Certaus The Treader of the Damned 09/19/11(Mon)19:06 No.16356230
    >>16356205
    A novel idea, but these are the same guys who wouldn't give a shit about a gang of cultists shooting them with small arms fire unless they made the mistake of getting in the way.

    A battle hymn is good for a laugh, but would they really be singing it?
    >> Brother Contumacious 09/19/11(Mon)19:07 No.16356243
    Scout Captain Determinus the Wanderer

    Scouts of the Obstinate Marines chapter range ahead of the main wedge to gather intelligence and prepare the way for the inexorable March. Among these driven individuals there is a figure of legend, a Marine of vaunted perseverance.

    Scout Captain Determinus was recruited from one of the many worlds the Obstinate Marines journeyed across. As a young man he not only kept pace with fully initiated battle brothers, but he often led the wedge at its very point, even when the Imperium’s foes stood in the way. His unwavering determination earned him a place n the chapter, and his name.

    Since his induction Determinus has fallen victim to the a state little understood by the chapter; being idle is anathema to Determinus’ existence. He fears that his mind and purpose will wander, and allow the insidious touch of chaos to take hold. Instead he ranges ever ahead of the main wedge, gathering info, securing locations, and facilitating the March to stride ever forward. Often the wedge will arrive to find an objective taken, or an entire enemy encampment decimated by the Scout Captain alone.

    Determinus has ranged so far forward that he has not been seen by any member of the Chapter for hundreds of years, but without fail his intel will find its way back to the chapter, and his signature wetwork and makers will pave the way for the Advance.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)19:07 No.16356248
    >>16356230
    They themselves wouldn't be singing it, they don't have time for that shit. It is sung by everyone behind them.
    >> 1d4chan Author 09/19/11(Mon)19:08 No.16356258
    >>16356196
    Kindly let me edit the article. I saw the rule and had added it when I found you had already done so.

    Also, I support the name, "Move or be Trampled" instead. Although the profane name is funnier, I think this is less "angry marines".
    >> Certaus The Treader of the Damned 09/19/11(Mon)19:08 No.16356263
    >>16356217
    I was thinking about this. Would they focus on trying to achieve the most speed possible (slaaneshi) or what you said with being Tzeentchian. Maybe they can turn their attention away from either of those two and instead cease with their endless march and focus on the slaughter leading up to a certain point. A knee deep in the dead idea if you will.

    The last one is obviously Khornate in nature
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)19:10 No.16356283
    >>16356258

    Oh, don't be such a prude. You can oversee it, regardless of edits made.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)19:11 No.16356289
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    Guys, someone fucked up the archive for this thread.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)19:11 No.16356292
    If they talk at all, would they bother with time-wasting obscenities and adjectives? 'The blue one' vs 'that one' makes sense, but not 'kill that motherfucking blue one, that'll teach him to get in our way!' they deliver any and all requisitioned FUCK YOUUUUUUUs via power boots, not vox.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)19:12 No.16356298
    >>16356263
    Well, Tzeetch seems to be the most opposite of what it means to be a Partinax, i.e. be willing to change course and adapt instantly rather than focusing on the path ahead with an unheard of single-mindedness, so I would rather support that line of development over the others.
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)19:12 No.16356301
    >>16356243

    Yeah. Definitely.

    As a hero character, maybe he negates any infiltrated units, having already spotted them?
    >> 1d4chan Author 09/19/11(Mon)19:13 No.16356314
    >>16356283
    I wasn't taking issue with the profanity, I was pointing out that the other name was more chapter appropriate, and less like the Angry Marines.

    I don't give a fuck about profanity.

    That said, the stories are going up.
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)19:13 No.16356318
    >>16356289

    ..what are you looking at?
    Archive for the old thread's here: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/16350251/

    This one will likely be archived similarly.
    >> Certaus The Treader of the Damned 09/19/11(Mon)19:14 No.16356335
    >>16356298
    Fair enough. So would they keep their iconic armor then?
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)19:15 No.16356340
    >>16356318
    No, the one in the image is the archive for THIS thread.
    >> Brother Contumacious 09/19/11(Mon)19:15 No.16356348
    Good idea for the rule.

    I write fluff, don't know the rules so much.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)19:16 No.16356358
    So... the Obstinate Marine Scouts go with the usual:
    Marathon
    Lightweight
    Commando
    Plasma pistol + Tactical Chain-Knife
    What am i missing?
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)19:16 No.16356360
    >>16356091
    Fair enough, I didn't know about them, like I said, still don't know a whole lot about all of the chapters and whatnot.
    Anyways, though I like the idea of them being full-set on completing their objective, I don't like the idea of them COMPLETELY ignoring everything around them. If there are a group of heretics to the left of the march, they should heft their bolters to the left and spray them to death without stopping.

    And as for holding an area, if their objective is to hold the area, they sit there and hold the damn area. That is their objective. They don't give a fuck about anything else. They aren't the Walking marines, they are the Objective marines. The second they get another objective, they pack up, and they all leave the area. Maybe they leave behind some turrets to protect it.

    The idea of them busting through obstacles is hilarious, but impractical. If all the troop has is tactical marines and scouts and whatnot, they'll climb over it or go around. If they have enough Terminators and Dreadnaughts that it would be actually faster to bulldoze through any structures in their way, then they bust through. But it's the fastest way that's most important, not the straightest line to the objective.
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)19:16 No.16356367
    >>16356340

    I understand, but this will be archived alongside the other on that same site.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)19:17 No.16356372
    >>16356358
    Power Boots? Or do the Scouts not get those?
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)19:18 No.16356385
    >>16356263

    If you two are desperately after a Chaos equivalent (FUCKING HERETICS) then I think Tzeentch or Nurgle would be the likely candidates. Either fallen Partinax can't decide on what they want to do, having the drive to do everything at once constantly changing objective, or they just... stop. They do nothing. They languish, and stagnate.
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)19:20 No.16356406
    >>16356358

    Okay, I lol'd.

    GG.

    Seriously, though? Scout Marines are pumped full of adrenalin and Mountain Dew by Apothecaries, in order to keep them running. Their constant movement ahead of the Wedge is their training, their initiation. Only after that are they truly accepted into the Chapter - at which point the ones that are left don't ever want to stop.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)19:21 No.16356422
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    So, why has no one mentioned this yet?
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)19:21 No.16356423
    >>16356301
    Not a hero character, since you won't be fielding him.He will be just a bunch pf stratagems like reserve roll modifications and maybe some land mine left by him.
    >> Brother Contumacious 09/19/11(Mon)19:22 No.16356438
    >>16356385

    I like the idea of an Obstinate Marine literally just stopping in his tracks and started rotting, infecting the area around him, until he is a suitably nurglish monstrosity, and then attacking.

    Obstinate Marines would constantly be on the lookout for a Brother that halted, and would be quick to try to neutralize him.
    >> Certaus The now Indecisive 09/19/11(Mon)19:23 No.16356445
    >>16356385
    Insults hurt you loyalist scum.

    Besides I was just thinking that it would be a bit of fun to come up with Chaos flavors of these guys given how they are.

    I'm seemingly agreeing with the idea of Heretical Obstinate Marines falling mostly to Tzeentch, but as with all things, there could be exceptions to that rule.
    >> Brother Contumacious 09/19/11(Mon)19:24 No.16356455
    To whoever is making the 1d4chan page, you missed this part of the "Stubborn Meal" story.


    Allidus had never seen such a thing in his life. A momentous cheer rose from the guard lines. It seemed like this lone space marine would win the day. The celebration was premature, however. All the boisterous laughter died away as a massive monster, larger than the rest, rose from the seething mass. It dwarfed the space marine, and brandished its menacing claws and dripping biological weapons. Allidus had heard of this beast.; the hive tyrant, the leader of the swarm. With a deafening screech it charged toward the space marine, and with blinding speed it snatched him in its jaws, and swallowed him whole.

    Men began to flee. Lasguns were thrown aside. The Commissar fired his bolt pistol into the backs of the deserters until he ran out of ammo, and was overrun by the tyranid. Allidus looked on in dismay. They had come so close. The huge hive tyrant bellowed again, as if boasting of its victory. On and on it roared, until the pitch began to change into a gurgling bellow, and then a pained scream. The monster doubled over, and began to retch ichors from its maw, all the while screaming and screaming.

    Allidus watched in horror as the stomach of the monster began to split and tear. Taut sinew and meter thick chitin was rent open from the inside. The sound of tearing flesh and animalistic screams reached a crescendo, and the hive tyrant’s stomach exploded in a wave of gore. Out of the ragged red hole strode the space marine, covered in innards. Without even stopping to brush away the viscera the marine continued on in the direction he was traveling. Allidus’ jaw hung open, his mind unable to make sense of the spectacle he just saw. With the psychic direction of the hive tyrant severed the remaining tyranid milled aimlessly on the battlefield. A torrent of bolter fire from guard reinforcements made short work of them.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)19:26 No.16356476
    >>16356406
    My work here is done.
    Have a good evening, /tg/
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)19:27 No.16356490
    >>16356423

    yeah, you're probably right. Well, it'd be interesting to field him in larger games with the faster scout squads, bikes and a other quick units, keeping the main force in Reserve in terms of waves, because they're slower....
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)19:30 No.16356521
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    apologies for the delay.
    >> 1d4chan Author 09/19/11(Mon)19:30 No.16356527
    I added this to the special characters section.

    "Captain Obduratus
    Technically the chapter master of the Partinax Marines, he retains the title of "Captain", indicating that the Partinax are an entire company of marines from another chapter, having broken away in their relentless purpose. As one of the oldest marines, he is outfitted in the heaviest and most well equipped Terminator Armor of the Obstinate Marines. He is especially tough and skilled, even as an Astartes, and is believed to have been alive since the Great Crusade. Whether this is true remains unconfirmed.

    >>16356455
    Will be resolved.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)19:31 No.16356533
    >>16356521
    Holy shit that thing is intimidating.
    >> 1d4chan Author 09/19/11(Mon)19:31 No.16356541
    >>16356521
    Oh god yes.

    Although I hate to nitpick, their shield should probably be a giant wedge. Otherwise that is the sexiest thing I've ever seen in armor.
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)19:32 No.16356546
    >>16356521

    That fucking Terminator man.

    That is wicked. Good job.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)19:32 No.16356552
    >>16355411

    Can a writefag turn this story into legit literature and post it up on the 1d4chan page? Captures the Obstinate Marines pretty well I think.
    >> Brother Contumacious 09/19/11(Mon)19:32 No.16356553
    >>16356521

    brilliantly done
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)19:33 No.16356555
    >>16356527
    Too stubborn to die? Could make good name for a special rule, something similar to the one Yarrik has.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)19:33 No.16356558
    >>16356521
    Shwig, you are a god.
    >> Brother Contumacious 09/19/11(Mon)19:34 No.16356572
    >>16356552

    I'll take a whack at it
    >> Certaus The now Indecisive 09/19/11(Mon)19:34 No.16356573
    >>16356438
    Of all things that exist in the Galaxy only one has been rumored to change the course of the determined Patinax Astartes. There exist some of these Obstinate Marines simply stopping in place leaving themselves to rot in their very armor. If these rumors are to be believed than it is certain that this still abominations would arouse the deepest loathing from their former brothers as the taint of Chaos, and of Nurgle in particular has graced these fallen champions of the Imperium.

    The stay in place almost as a statue, but those brave enough to listen to them may hear their maddened mumbilings and the sound of horrid blisters and wounds fester with the blessings of Nurgle. It is after their diseased forms have polluted all around them when these relics begin to move again, but gone is their speed replaced instead with a truly unstoppable stride of warped proportions. Those they pass feel their blood boil and their skin peel, and those who stand before them are crushed beneath their diseased boots.

    The battles between the pure Partinax and the Still as some have called them are truly fearsome for any to behold. Some have referred to it as "An Unstoppable Force colliding with an Immovable Object"
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)19:35 No.16356585
    >>16356541

    The GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY WAY rule is so much easier to imagine when you see that terminator, isn't it?

    Ahahahaha.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)19:36 No.16356594
    >>16356527
    >he retains the title of "Captain", indicating that the Partinax are an entire company of marines from another chapter
    wut?
    >is believed to have been alive since the Great Crusade.
    WHAT

    EXPLAIN THIS BULLSHIT BEFORE I BLACK RAGE YOUR SHIT SO HARD THAT EVEN DANTE WILL SUCK MY DICK!
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)19:36 No.16356600
    Hmm. I just thought of something.

    What if they don't stop even when they're dead? They just get back up and keep on walking. Don't even have the brain process left to fire a gun, or do anything else: they just keep on going in their armour forever, like some fucking Space Marine zombies.

    Getting too ridiculous again?
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)19:37 No.16356609
    >>16356573

    The Still.

    Fuck, that's an awesome name. Hells yeah, that's going to be legit.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)19:37 No.16356611
    >>16356600
    yeah.
    Once they die/almost die, they are put in Dreads.
    Makes more sense then zombie muhreens.
    >> 1d4chan Author 09/19/11(Mon)19:38 No.16356614
    >>16356585
    I can only imagine looking up in awe and going, "... okay." And then SCRAMBLING THE FUCK AWAY.

    That thing is intimidating as fuck.

    It would have to be, what? Twelve? Fifteen feet tall? DAAAYUM.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)19:38 No.16356617
    >>16356594
    I HAVE NO TIME FOR DEATH!
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)19:39 No.16356632
    >>16356600
    knocked out, shellshock, those work. they march to the last objective and just wait. Little silly, but workable. after death? too much, I think.
    >> 1d4chan Author 09/19/11(Mon)19:40 No.16356649
    >>16356594
    You haven't been paying attention, bro. "Their origins are obscure and they've been around since the great crusade" thing is one of the fundamental aspects of their lore.

    This indicates that they are a company that broke off from a legion during the great crusades.

    It is, however, open to interpretation as complete bullshit. Since Captain Obduratus won't stop to answer questions about their origin or his.
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)19:41 No.16356653
    >>16356600

    They have the dreads (Juggernauts).

    So, no.
    >> 1d4chan Author 09/19/11(Mon)19:43 No.16356680
    I'm having trouble uploading pictures to 1d4chan.

    "File extension does not match MIME type."

    Dunno what's up with that. Well, I'll figure it out.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)19:44 No.16356685
    >>16356609
    Agreed. They should also become so bloated that rotting flesh bulges out of their armor.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)19:45 No.16356698
    >>16356594
    >>16356649
    The reason for this is that Astarte Chapter #1298 considers keeping record of its history a waste of time.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)19:48 No.16356730
    >>16356698
    There has always been a Captain Obduratus in Chapter #1298, but no one knows how MANY Captain Obduratus-es there may have been over its history.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)19:49 No.16356734
    >>16356649
    You do realise im raging over the idea that the "chapter master" is somehow still alive right?
    the chapter would have to have been noticed by the imperium from less then 1100 years for him to be not to be the oldest space marine alive. lets forget the the imperium were being fucking careful right after the heresy about the space marine number/chapters
    so they can't have been noticed forever.

    it just doesn't really work with the fluff at all
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)19:49 No.16356736
    >>16356685
    Which is saying a lot considering what sort of a mess their armor can be.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)19:50 No.16356743
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    >"I HAVE NOT AWOKEN, FOR I HAVE NEVER SLEPT."

    This quote. Just...this quote.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)19:51 No.16356757
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    jump packs and power fists all around!
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)19:51 No.16356760
    >>16356734
    I don't think anyone has said that the Imperium hasn't noticed them, just that their origin is obscure. Going from the short stories and such, the Imperium can call on them for help and they still follow official orders that they are given. It's just that in their offtime they keep on Crusading.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)19:52 No.16356770
    So, any special psychic powers their Librarians would have?
    >> Certaus of the everchanging name 09/19/11(Mon)19:53 No.16356780
    >>16356609
    >>16356685
    >>16356736
    Sounds good. Glad I could attribute at least something to this.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)19:53 No.16356782
    Maybe they should not have proper dreadnoughts, but marines who have served for so long that they have the equivilant amount of armour bolted onto them?

    So they start as regular marines, after several centuries they have enough armour to be classed as a terminator, then, after a millenia or two, they become living monoliths made of layer upon layer of armour plating, support systems, and weaponry, and are then classed as the chapter dreadnoughts?
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)19:53 No.16356783
    >>16356770
    Teleporting them through obstacles, blowing holes through obstacles, making them faster.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)19:54 No.16356788
    somebody has to convert a force of these guys.
    >> 1d4chan Author 09/19/11(Mon)19:55 No.16356801
    >>16356734
    So you can decide it's complete bullshit.

    The fluff is open to interpretation.

    These are Rumors. Is he a marine that survived that long? Probably not - but he is a marine in a chapter that utilizes the heaviest armor in the Imperium, so it's not beyond belief that he might have survived when less well protected marines have not.

    Investigated? The chapter just so happens to be 1k members strong, and has been around since the chaos of the great crusade, never stopping to do anything but continue the great crusade - and that, always on the edge of the Imperium. Since then, other chapters have completely forgotten their primarch.

    It's not as implausible as you'd think, if you'd consider it in depth.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)19:55 No.16356802
    >>16356782
    oh god.
    If a marine's armor is bulky enough to be considered to be dread size, and they are injured enough, the internals of the armor are converted to dreadnaught tech so support the marine. If they die, the armor is converted and put on hold for injured marines.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)19:57 No.16356819
    >>16356757
    any chance you could make a dreadnaught?
    complete with drill and impact-hammer arms instead of guns?
    >> 1d4chan Author 09/19/11(Mon)19:57 No.16356821
    >>16356757
    Absolutely Beautiful.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)19:58 No.16356828
    >>16356734
    >>16356760
    The way I think about it is this. It's not that the Imperium doesn't take notice, but that they aren't centralized enough to really be an issue. Like you can find a few hundred of actual marines gathered together and in consistent communication at a time, but more than that isn't likely and they only ever gather in larger numbers to continue crusading. Or something like that.
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)19:59 No.16356836
    >>16356770
    I can't think of any off-hand,
    except for one.
    RELENTLESS:
    On a 4+, all units within 10" ignore all morale tests for 2 movement turns, and continue to move in formation regardless of any units, regardless of any effects those units would have.


    >>16356782

    I love this idea.
    >> 1d4chan Author 09/19/11(Mon)19:59 No.16356842
    Alright. I officially cannot load images. I don't know why.

    Wherever you are, please try to upload the images in this thread and the previous one to 1d4 chan, because I cannot.
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)20:01 No.16356858
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    >>16356819

    You rang?

    But seriously? not really. They'd just beat them aside with their gauntleted hands.
    >> Brother Contumacious 09/19/11(Mon)20:03 No.16356881
    >>16356552


    The call had been sent. Information from the scouts far ahead had made its way back to the Chapter Officers on board The Pertinacious. After analyzing the data an objective was decided. From the great hulk of the fortress monastery an armada of craft detached, ships of every size and shape, bearing the foundries and servitors of war, and not least among them the mighty Juggernauts of the Imperium, the Partinax Astartes. Steadily the small fleet floated through space toward the malignant planet below.

    Careful surveillance from the scouts revealed that this planet, whose name was unimportant, was succumbing to the insufferable taint of chaos. Truly they were deluded in their madness, for the twisted servants of corruption decided to build their stronghold in the path of the Obstinate Marines’ inexorable march. The objective was clear, crush the stronghold, raze it to the ground, leave nothing left. Troop transports deployed their cargo; 100 battle brothers, bedecked in their stalwart and ancient armour. Sunlight glinted off them in a metallic sheen. A larger ship landed, and from its hold trundled a mighty engine of war. A veritable relic, the Land Raider Indomitalbe, whose machine spirit saw hundreds of years of victory. With the factoriums and warhouses still deploying, the Obstinate Marines began their methodical march to battle.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)20:03 No.16356885
    >>16356858
    I meant for stuff like more efficiently smashing their way through fortified bunkers/fortress walls/small mountains.
    >> Brother Contumacious 09/19/11(Mon)20:04 No.16356894
    Opposition was strong than expected. More than simple heretics defended the walls of the blasphemous fortress; powerful chaos space marines of the Black Legion also manned the parapets. They rained cursed fire down on the Obstinate Marines from heavy bolters and missile launchers. Still, the Juggernauts strode forth, never flinching from their objective. Indomitable rolled forward, lancing fire from its mounted weapons, tearing great gouges in the stone. Just as the defenses seemed to fall a luckily aimed krak rocket slammed into the Land Raider’s tracks, disabling the vehicle. Stuck in position, it was hit by more anti-tank weaponry, rendering its weapon useless.

    The Obstinate Marines threw themselves at the wall, never falling back, but their power hammers and gloves were no match for the chaos infused material. Lascannons had begun to take a toll on the stalwart marines. Brother-Sergeant Adamant surveyed the battlefield, and was inspired. He knew how to accomplish the objective. With little more than a whisper into his vox, he alerted his brothers. “To me.” Winking acknowledgment lights flashed on his HUD.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)20:04 No.16356899
    >>16356801
    And then again we encounter the issue of no record being kept by Partinax, so only accounts of their history are fragments written by others. However fact remains that earliest mentions of "Captain Obstinatus of Astarte Chapter #1298" come from M33 log written by Blood Angel sergeant and there are at least 145 later mentions of him. This lead some Inquisitors to speculate that "Captain Obstinatus" is merely a title held by the Chapter Master.
    >> Brother Contumacious 09/19/11(Mon)20:04 No.16356901
    As one the Obstinate Marines turned to the smoldering wreckage of the Land Raider. They began to work at the underside of the vehicle; powerboots making short work of the weakened armour. Small arms fire plinked all around them, but still the Juggernauts worked. Eventually the Land Raider was hollowed out, and filled with the marines. They lifted the mighty hulk with their inhuman strength, and started to crawl toward the wall, slowly at first, but gaining speed.

    Seeing the Marine’s plan, the foul chaos champion bellowed to his fellows to target the makeshift battering ram. Las rounds and plasma punctured the wreckage, felling marines, but for each that fell the brother next to him shouldered his burden. The marines mustered greater and greater strength, eventually brining the wreck to blazing speeds. With an earsplitting crack they collided with the wall, and sent a might rent along its height. Groaning masonry gave way, and the defense collapsed. Without a moments hesitation the marines abandoned their ram, and stormed into the gap. It took less than an hour to finish the remaining chaos filth.
    >> Brother Contumacious 09/19/11(Mon)20:05 No.16356908
    Some time later the huge manufactories and engine of the chapter arrived to grind the chaos edifice down to nothing, and recycle and reuse its resources. Soon nothing would be left of the blight upon this land. Techmarines and servitors wandered the field, collecting fallen weapons, armour, and the bodies of Obstinate Marines.

    Brother-Sergeant Adamant strode across the battlefield. By some wreckage he came across the shattered and broken body of the corrupt chaos champion. The wretched thing laughed as it saw the marine, and spat curses with its blood-chocked voice. “T-that fucking Land Raider…” Adamant did not give him time to finish his thought; a powerboot to the skill silenced the traitor forever.
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)20:05 No.16356909
    >>16356881

    Reading this + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ1GbBlS9wM

    FOR THE EMPRAH!
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)20:07 No.16356937
    >>16356885
    Something like...THIS?!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlOoIMd9524
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)20:08 No.16356943
    >>16356908

    Some Class-A writefaggotry, brother.

    You bring glory to the Imperium.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)20:09 No.16356957
    >>16356937
    That is what inspired me, but the opposite of that.
    It punches forward, then the fist/hammer pistons out., then retracts, punch, piston, repeat until the obstacle is gone.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)20:09 No.16356960
    >>16356937
    HOLY FUCK YES. MODIFIED POWER FISTS FOR THE DREADNOUGHTS THAT DO EXACTLY THAT.
    >> 1d4chan Author 09/19/11(Mon)20:09 No.16356961
    Excellent work, Brother Writefag. You do us all proud.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)20:12 No.16356989
    >>16356957

    Hell naw, son! The venerable warrior strides to the obstacle, places his closed fist against its surface, and then...the piston withdraws and slams home. Then, the piston withdraws...

    0-inch punches. clean delivery of kinetic payload to the target. distruptor fields arond the dreadfist remove loose debris and organic material from site of impact.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)20:14 No.16357004
    >>16356989
    Fair enough. Only reason I was thinking of having the fist piston out was so that it wasn't a complete rip-off of Big O.
    Fuck it, I'm imaging what my version would look like and it's retarded.
    >> 1d4chan Author 09/19/11(Mon)20:17 No.16357039
    >>16356881
    >>16356894
    >>16356901
    >>16356908
    I cannot add the images of our holy scribes, but your story of the enduring spirit of the Indomitable even in the face of death has been added to the 1d4chan article.

    It is called "Indomitable Spirit".
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)20:19 No.16357055
    regarding the PArtinax Astartes never sleeping.

    Wasn't there something in the old fluff about how a marine could let one half of the brain sleep/rest, while the other half was consious?

    A possibility could then be that thier version of resting simple consist of doing stuff that doesn't requere them to be at max efficientcy such as eating, meditating on strategem and getting briefed on thier next objective. Thier left and right side of the brain taking turn to rest.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)20:19 No.16357056
    >>16357004

    CAST IN THE NAME OF THE EMPEROR, YE NOT GUILTY

    Well, a way to separate the inspiration from it's derivation would be that the pistons slam home at the moment of impact for a punch, not a hugely drawn out dramatic affair. That also seems to fit the chapter's burning need for efficiency.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)20:20 No.16357064
    >>16357056
    *YE NOT HERETICAL
    >> Brother Contumacious 09/19/11(Mon)20:20 No.16357070
    >>16357039

    You Honor me.

    Thinking of whipping something up for The Still, but I don't want to inundate the chapter with my ramblings.
    >> That Guy !CrwtTbFNxQ 09/19/11(Mon)20:21 No.16357072
    The lost Chapter Master: Forrestus Ngup.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)20:22 No.16357081
    >>16357039
    "That fucking land raider" seems more fitting to me.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)20:22 No.16357083
    >>16357064
    >>16357064

    Wahahaha Aw, yeah.

    Man, the more I think about it, the sight of massive dreadnought fists blowing huge craters in it's target's armor on each punch is just..hnnng.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)20:23 No.16357090
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    Its stuff like this that makes me love /tg/ all over again every day. Hell, I don't even play or follow 40k that much (99% of my knowledge of the universe comes from /tg/ making stuff like this up, then me going back to figure out the original story behind the homebrew), but even I can appreciate the awesomeness that goes into these things.

    Shine on you crazy diamonds, and Emprahsque bless you all!
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)20:24 No.16357102
    >>16357072

    I kind of like this.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)20:24 No.16357107
    http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/CONTEMPTOR_PATTERN_DREADNOUGHT_BODY.html

    Drawfags take heed: I recommend this. But with much bigger fists. Also, Jumppack
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)20:25 No.16357111
    >>16357081

    yeah, this story needs to be called 'That Fucking Land Raider'
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)20:25 No.16357112
    >>16357090
    Yeah... it is pretty awesome. I just wish /tg/ did this for something other than marines, once in a while.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)20:25 No.16357115
    >>16357107
    and TREADS
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)20:25 No.16357117
    >>16357107
    Wow, that is scarily close to what's already been drawn.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)20:28 No.16357138
    >>16356937
    >>16356989
    >>16357056
    >>16357064
    AWW HELL YES

    THIS THREAD NEEDS SOME NEW MUSIC!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVuLideHsrs

    THE PARTINAX MARCH ONWARDS TO THEIR NEXT GOAL
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)20:29 No.16357155
    Partinax Titan.

    Appears @ :10
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAUkCNd4cVM
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)20:30 No.16357163
    >>16357112

    A homebrew Masqueradw bloodline, maybe?
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)20:31 No.16357180
    >>16357138

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ1GbBlS9wM

    You listen to that, then you GTFO.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)20:33 No.16357196
    >>16357180
    That's been posted like five times in this thread. >>16357138 is for after they've cleared one goal, as they march back to their ships to continue their unstoppable crusade.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)20:45 No.16357338
    likely going to be done tomorrow.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)20:46 No.16357346
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    >>16357338
    captcha ate my picture..
    >> 1d4chan Author 09/19/11(Mon)20:47 No.16357352
    Well, I have the pictures saved. Maybe it's some kind of odd flaw with 1d4 chan and not my connection that's preventing the uploads.

    Since no one is telling me they've tried, and I see no new uploads, I have no idea if it's just a problem with me.

    Either way, I'll upload them whenever I'm able. The Partinax Astartes will have the glorious gallery they deserve. The work of the drawfags shall not go unremembered.
    >> 1d4chan Author 09/19/11(Mon)20:49 No.16357365
    >>16357346
    That outline is glorious. I'm looking forward to seeing the finished product.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)20:58 No.16357457
    >>16357346
    Schweet
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)20:58 No.16357461
    One geneseed defect they have is that they are colorblind.

    It all makes sense if you think about it. They can't tell if the traffic light is red or green, so they just go. Not that it would have stopped them anyways...
    >> Brother Contumacious 09/19/11(Mon)21:02 No.16357498
    >>16357346

    Truly the Partinax Marines are blessed by the skills of an Artificer such as yourself
    >> Certaus of the everchanging name 09/19/11(Mon)21:08 No.16357565
    >>16356881
    >>16356894
    >>16356901
    >>16356908
    So I was busy, and when I came back I saw that Contumacious had already posted a story. Well I figured since I already went through the trouble of writing it I went back and stretched my virgining write-fag wings and changed up the story a bit to be from the perspective (more or less) of the chaos champion in Contumacious's story. So here we go.

    Turza 6 was a agri-world of little importance to the Imperium of Mankind. Yes it did produce scores of food for nearby Hive Worlds, but in reality it was relatively minor in the grand scheme of its sub-sector. Still there are those who lived on Turza 6 and found life there to be not to their liking. After one such rebelious group was crushed by an Inquisitor's Acolytes a tome was found amongst the wreckage of the insurgents compound. This tome inevitably found its way to a bookish Adept of the Adeptus Administratum. Unfortunately for the whole of Turza 6 this unassuming adept was a nascent psyker and the heretical texts the tome held warped the mind of the man, and soon he began to plot a method to bring the foul forces of Chaos to Turza 6.

    The adept preyed upon those bored of a life of tedious farming and animal rearing and soon he had a sizeable contigent of followers under his control. It was only a matter of time before a localized warp storm consumed Turza 6 and from its foul mouth did the heinous forces of the traitor legins pour forth. At its head was the Chaos Champion Actin Credast of the Black Legion. He looked upon the meager congregation that the adept had produced and decided that they would be put to better use to create a more permament gate to the warp beyond, and so began construction of a massive and terrifying altar to the dark gods. Credast had hoped to use this altar to act as a conduit to the teeming mass of daemons that gazed upon this world with hungry eyes.
    >> Certaus of the everchanging name 09/19/11(Mon)21:11 No.16357597
    >>16357565
    However... the warp storm ended and soon word came to the Astartes Chapter #1298 otherwise known as the "Parintax Astartes" or "Obstinate Marines" that a world under command of the Imperium of Man had become a unholy gathering of the forces of Chaos, and so they set out from their fortress monastery to the remote world. A company, 100 strong along with the ineffable might of the Land Raider "Indomitable" was all that was sent, but all that was needed to crush this force of foul warp followers. The transit to Turza 6 was a brief one as their astropaths were graced with good fortune as the warp yeilded before their ship, and spat them out in an almost record time from their departure. As the ship prepared to unleash its cargo the marines within were prepared to do the Emperor's duty.

    Credast was absolutely thrilled when he heard that worshippers of the Corpse God had come to Turza 6. He had indeed begin to grow bored with the congregation and the construction of the forstress protecting it. Although an impressive if not fearsome sight it was battle that Credast sought. Battle and Slaughter. However when word reached him that the specific Astartes that came to Turza 6 bore no recognizable heraldry and instead were what could be called "Walking Wedges" Credast began to worry. He had come across these loyalist before, and fear grew in his corrupter heart. He gazed to the horizon with mixed feelings. Battle would be his, but would victory?
    >> Certaus of the everchanging name 09/19/11(Mon)21:12 No.16357618
    >>16357597
    Credast barked orders at his subordinates and soon the sound of hellish bolters and plasma rung through the Turzan air. The shots hit a few of the marines, but their heavy armor protected them from all but the most lethal of blows. Still despite the almost impervious nature of their opponets the Chaos Legion would not let up, and soon the fruits of their violent labor shown as a few of the marines were being brought down. Credast however was still wary of the Land Raider as it had not fallen under any duress through out the fight and was soon to truly shatter the confines of the fortress. Credast drew attention to the danger of the Land Raider and demanded that something spell its doom or else it would be the end for them.

    The threat worked. A stroke of blind luck graced (or prehaps cursed) one of the Legion Astartes as a Krak Missle ruined the tread of the potent war machine, and Credast became elated. He howled his victory over the astartes and seeing as how their war machine lie derilict he assumed that they would finally falter and flee. He was wrong. The marines came to the side of the Fortress and with a single minded determination that surprised even Credast they began to attack the fortress itself.
    >> 1d4chan Author 09/19/11(Mon)21:13 No.16357621
    My objective of carving out the basic article is complete. You may now hold the objective and make your own edits as deem necessary.

    http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Obstinate_Marines

    And remember, if any of you can upload the pictures, please do so. Otherwise all this awesome drawfriend work will go to waste.
    >> Certaus of the everchanging name 09/19/11(Mon)21:14 No.16357627
    >>16357618
    Despite their determination their armaments were not able to peirce the empowered walls, and the ritual was growing so much closer to its completion. Credast hurled insult after insult upon the marines believing his victory secure, and when the marines turned away he was all to certain that he had won. Again... Credast was wrong. For the marines had returned to the ruined Raider and began to remove its under side with stomps and kicks. Credast was at the very least surpised, and soon grew into despair as he saw what the Marines had done. Donning the ruined Land Raider as cover they began to march forward and after a short moment began to sprint towards the wall with the raider prepared to act as a make shift battering ram.

    There was but a brief moment where Credast saw his end hastily approaching. He could not for the life of him figure out why this was happening, but this moment of introspection was quickly shattered by his rage demanding his attention. He roared to his followers to fire everything they had upon the raider. Indeed some of the Marines within fell before the onslaught of fire, but for each that feel the resolve of his battle brothers became so much stronger.
    >> Certaus of the everchanging name 09/19/11(Mon)21:16 No.16357649
    >>16357627
    It was a harrowing sound when the Raider crashed through the wall of the fortress. Those within were trampled beneath the feet of the marines, and as quickly as they entered the left through another wall on the oppisite side. The hellish structure groaned as ritual failed to complete, and in the few moments before the entire complex came tumbling down Credast gripped his head with some pathetic attempt to come to terms with what has happened. Only one thought ran through his warp-addled mind. "Again. It was that same FUCKING LAND RAIDER." The fortress collapsed and as the marines passed by the site to return to the Thunder Hawk Credast drug himself out of the rubble. Spitting up blood he tried to scream at the Marines, but instead it was a meagar voice that came out. "That Fucking Land Raider Agai-"

    He was interrupted as a bolter round shattered his skull, and the uninterested marine continued his march.


    And there we go. Done. Probably not as good as Contumacious, but hell... my ego can take the blow.
    >> Brother Contumacious 09/19/11(Mon)21:22 No.16357691
    >>16357649

    Very interesting to read the other perspective. Really well written!
    >> Certaus the Insecure 09/19/11(Mon)21:23 No.16357698
    >>16357691
    Hell yeah Internet validation!
    >> 1d4chan Author 09/19/11(Mon)21:23 No.16357700
    >>16357649
    Haha, hey, I thought it was great. Feel free to add it to the article. I'm done for the night.
    >> Brother Non Enim Desinit Homo 09/19/11(Mon)21:24 No.16357705
    >>16357649
    >>16357627
    >>16357618
    >>16357597
    >>16357565

    For a virgining write-fag you wrote pretty good.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)21:26 No.16357726
    I have a hypothetical solution to the emblem/no-emblem controversy.

    The Obstinate Marines *do* have an emblem, but they themselves had no input in its creation or use; it was wholly their techpriests, serfs, and other support personnel who did all that. The emblem is stamped, NOT painted, onto the pauldrons manufactured for Obstinate Marine use. It slowly wears down as the Obstinate Marines walk through flying bullets and brick walls, and is designed in such a way that it's recognizable until it's completely scoured away.

    The Obstinate Marines are aware of the emblem chosen for them. They neither approve nor disapprove of the emblem, but simply tolerate it, because they know allowing the non-Marines to decorate their armor with this minor detail is less trouble than telling them an emblem is a waste of time and asking them to remove it, only to have to repeat this every twenty years as the mortal techpriests, serfs, and so on are replaced by a new generation of menials.
    >> Someone else. !!Qb2aRW+wCPO 09/19/11(Mon)21:28 No.16357742
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    >>16357705
    Hope you meant 'burgeoning"
    >> Certaus the Insecure 09/19/11(Mon)21:29 No.16357747
    Oh shit... I just realized that I missed a part.

    this paragraph should go in between >>16357597 and
    >>16357618

    The tireless Obstinate Marines continued towards the seething fortress. They needed no sleep for they had a mission to complete, and they needed no rest for they would not tire even unto death. When the heinous protusion of the Chaos Fortress became clear on the horizon the marines were already prepared for combat, and it was the ancient Land Raider Indomitable that unleashed the first blow. Its munitions calling out like wrathful thunder as the walls it struck broke under its might. The marines were close now, and they could see the defenders ready for them.
    >> 1d4chan Author 09/19/11(Mon)21:29 No.16357750
    >>16357726
    Works for me. I suggest our drawfags work on creating a Chevron based emblem.
    >> Brother Contumacious 09/19/11(Mon)21:31 No.16357759
    >>16357726

    Agreed, good explanation for the purpose and practically behind the emblem.
    >> Brother Non Enim Desinit Homo 09/19/11(Mon)21:33 No.16357774
    >>16357742

    Thinking the same.
    >> Brother Contumacious 09/19/11(Mon)21:37 No.16357797
    Well I just had paragraphs of The Still fluff written, and it was quite good, if I do say so myself.

    Then Microsoft word took a shit and died
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)21:37 No.16357799
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    >>16357346

    I'm loving the armor, but I suggest the shield have a peaked or domed shape, or a point on its edge, to facilitate smashing through a wall. Or maybe a shield integrated into a battering ram?

    Would Obstinate Marines have any kind of weapon designed to make it easier for them to smash through walls, like a hybrid of a Power Axe or Chainaxe and the fire axes or entry tools firefighters use?
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)21:42 No.16357841
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    >>16357750
    Mock up I made from stock images and Photoshop of what I think a good emblem would be.
    >> 1d4chan Author 09/19/11(Mon)21:44 No.16357859
    >>16357799
    Focusing too much on odd weapons would take the focus off of their purpose; the armor.

    That is their unique thing. The core of what they are. They are extremely, extremely well armored. And their wedge IS their shield; charing forward and slamming into things is as much of a weapon as they need most of the time, the rest is just Great-Crusade era old as fuck weaponry.

    Power-Hammers and power-boots are good for the officers to have, though.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)21:44 No.16357863
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    >>16357498
    i hold the secrets of the machines :3
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)21:45 No.16357867
    >>16357863

    That techpriest is adorable as fuck.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)21:46 No.16357874
    >>16357863
    >Dat tech priest :3
    >> Librarian Watt Mard 09/19/11(Mon)21:46 No.16357875
    I come back from a shoot (work, videographer) to find my rules accepted and in the 1D4chan page.

    I feel like I helped make something wonderful.. but you, you guys are the glorious bastards that made this happen. The entire chapter is glorious.

    I will try to model some and post them in the coming months based on income.

    KEEP IT UP /TG/, you are all gods.
    >> 1d4chan Author 09/19/11(Mon)21:46 No.16357876
    >>16357863
    I'm pretty sure that would be worshiped as a god by some primitive cultures.

    That thing is MAGNIFICENT.
    >> Brother Contumacious 09/19/11(Mon)21:46 No.16357880
    >>16357863

    treads AND feet!

    Unparalleled genius!
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)21:50 No.16357908
    >>16357880

    I didn't even notice the treads until you pointed them out. Now I can't stop thinking about Termi-dreads out in front of the rest of the Chapter, crushing heretics beneath their feet while they obliviously skate their way to victory, like some sort of hybrid between an ice-skater and a dreadnaught.
    >> Techpriest :3 09/19/11(Mon)21:51 No.16357920
    >>16357908
    >>16357880
    >>16357876
    >>16357876
    >>16357875
    >>16357874
    >>16357867
    anything else that we're missing from the chapter?
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)21:52 No.16357930
    >>16357920
    Umm, Librarians?
    >> 1d4chan Author 09/19/11(Mon)21:52 No.16357932
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    >>16357841
    That's good, but let's keep trying others. Maybe we'll find one that truly stands out as "the one".

    Also, when I think of Chevrons, in spite of being ex-military, I can't help but think of Stargate.

    I think a variation on this symbol might be a good idea too. It's got the pyramid shape going.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)21:53 No.16357934
    >>16357863

    Hm. I've noticed that a lot of the design markers seem to resemble Warmachine heavy 'Jacks, specifically Cygnar. Possible source of inspiration or better yet, bitz?
    >> 1d4chan Author 09/19/11(Mon)21:53 No.16357942
    >>16357908
    Ice-Naughts.

    Ask not, lest ye be Iced.
    >> Brother Contumacious 09/19/11(Mon)21:54 No.16357943
    >>16357920

    Maybe some Scouts and Assault? If your up to it...
    >> Techpriest :3 09/19/11(Mon)21:56 No.16357960
    >>16357930
    how would you describe their librarians as?
    >> Librarian Watt Mard 09/19/11(Mon)21:56 No.16357963
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    >>16357876
    >>16357863

    Also known as "OP", "Crazy guy with to many guardsmen", and Commissar Urist McFuklaw

    If you guys want, I can assemble a proper codex, with written rules, graphics, and all. I'll use you guy's art/work if thats alright... but I will do this if you mentlegen want. I seriously would like to run these fuckers...
    >> 1d4chan Author 09/19/11(Mon)21:58 No.16357984
    >>16357963
    Sounds fine to me. Use what we have created to create a playable army. I love the idea.
    >> Brother Contumacious 09/19/11(Mon)21:59 No.16357996
    Probably as heavily armoured as a tacmarine, but with some flowing robes and such. I assume they would focus on shielding powers.
    >> Brother Contumacious 09/19/11(Mon)22:01 No.16358013
    I imagine full fledged techamarines being as tall as the dreadnaughts, with several rows of arms arranged vertically, allowing them to work on every part of a machine or marine at once. They would be followed by a swarm of acolytes, apprentices, servitors, and supply mules.

    Also, they would have many legs, or wheels, or treads, to keep up with the Advance.
    >> 1d4chan Author 09/19/11(Mon)22:02 No.16358026
    >>16357996
    Yeah. The Obstinate Marines are all about defense and forward motion/mobility. So the powers of the Psykers would be focused on that.

    Appearance wise, they'd probably be in Terminator armor (as senior members of the chapter), but specially modified for their needs.

    As for chaplains, I'm not actually sure they'd have any. They aren't really Codex compliant - they're operating under their own unique doctrines, although there's conveniently 1000 of them.

    If there is one, I suppose he'd be in Terminator armor as well.
    >> Librarian Watt Mard 09/19/11(Mon)22:02 No.16358027
    >>16357984
    Alright. It may take a backseat to my dark heresy campaign but it WILL get done. I will keep the world up to date by posting it in discussion for review? Does that work? JFX is my name within 1d4chan.

    I don't like to name fag, but I do like letting people know I can get shit done, at my own pace. It also helps cooperate things.

    Would the drawfag be willing to work with me? Contact me @ my email, to better coordinate these things if you would like.

    Also, again, I work at my own speed. I work when inspired. This inspires me to work.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)22:03 No.16358031
    >>16357960
    Their librarians are clad in the same armor as their brethren, but with further ornamental shields and wedges. They wield a large force wedge in one hand a large shield in the other. Probably with some robes, tattered to oblivion by their unstoppable style.
    >> Brother Contumacious 09/19/11(Mon)22:06 No.16358054
    I don't think the chapter would need a chaplain.

    For more ornamental armour for the Chapter, say for Librarians or Chapter, maybe incorporate some cowcatchers. If you google cowcatcher there are great examples. Perhaps as a gorget or around the kneepads or gauntlets.
    >> Brother Contumacious 09/19/11(Mon)22:07 No.16358069
    >>16358027

    That would be awesome and greatly appreciated. I've had SM models for a while now, and didn't know what chapter to play.

    I think I found my chapter.
    >> Someone else. !!Qb2aRW+wCPO 09/19/11(Mon)22:09 No.16358092
    >>16357908
    Ice Capades? More like Ice CRUSADES!
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)22:10 No.16358102
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    >>16357932
    Maybe a bootprint that is full of chevron markings?
    This would match the actual prints they leave behind, which will create a path for secondary squads of marines to follow behind.
    Another mockup, this one even shittier, but it gets my point across.
    >> 1d4chan Author 09/19/11(Mon)22:13 No.16358127
    >>16358102
    That is awesome. Right now, it has my vote.
    >> Brother Contumacious 09/19/11(Mon)22:15 No.16358146
    >>16358102

    I like it. The bottom of their boot is entirely made up of forward pointing arrows, to spiritually guide their brethren forward.

    It has my vote as Emblem.
    >> Librarian Watt Mard 09/19/11(Mon)22:21 No.16358212
    Relentless, or do they not have time for stopping, and shooting heavy weapons? Opinions?
    >> Techpriest :3 09/19/11(Mon)22:22 No.16358220
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    oh poop it seems like i ran out of time,sorry guys,gotta go do broquest stuff,ill be back later
    >> Brother Non Enim Desinit Homo 09/19/11(Mon)22:22 No.16358224
    >>16358102

    And mine.
    >> Brother Contumacious 09/19/11(Mon)22:25 No.16358251
    >>16358212

    Relentless
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)22:26 No.16358253
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    Just a fucking bootprint.

    Same guy who suggested the bootprint decal from the last thread, here.

    Just a goddamn bootprint. They're already pointy enough.
    >> Brother Contumacious 09/19/11(Mon)22:26 No.16358255
    >>16358220

    I think I'm in love...
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)22:33 No.16358324
    >>16358255

    HIS LOVE FOR YOU IS LIKE A TRUCK

    A BIG, HEAVY ARMORED TRUCK THAT CRUSHES ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING IN ITS PATH. THE RAPE TRAIN CAN'T BE STOPPED.
    >> Brother Non Enim Desinit Homo 09/19/11(Mon)22:40 No.16358382
    >>16358324

    Custom Chapter vehicle?
    The Unnamed Super Armored Rhino.
    Nicknamed by those who see it as "The Rape Train."
    >> Brother Contumacious 09/19/11(Mon)22:43 No.16358416
    >>16358382

    They should have a literal locomotive. As they march forward enginseers lay tracks, and the train rams into anything with the force of crashing starship.
    >> Librarian Watt Mard 09/19/11(Mon)22:51 No.16358486
    Outline
    -Fluff
    -Force Organization
    -Unit description, special rules, information
    -Point costs/options/the like (as it is done currently.)
    -Reference Sheet

    or

    Outline
    -Fluff
    -Force Organization
    -Unit description, special rules, information,Point costs/options/the like, all together
    -Reference Sheet
    >> Brother Contumacious 09/19/11(Mon)22:56 No.16358522
    >>16358486

    Option 1 for me
    >> Brother Non Enim Desinit Homo 09/19/11(Mon)22:58 No.16358549
    >>16358416

    Thats a much better idea. But how would that translate to crunch?
    >> Brother Contumacious 09/19/11(Mon)23:00 No.16358568
    >>16358549

    No idea. Translating cool ideas into workable, balanced rules is not my forte.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)23:13 No.16358722
    >>16358416

    Said train is the barracks for the non-space marine auxiliary forces. When they want to sleep, they have to get in specially designated vehicles to catch up with the train, and while it's still moving, jump into the boarding area. This also helps to weed out weak allies, as anyone who doesn't survive the jump/crashes into the train/can't jump far enough and becomes a paste on the ground isn't worthy of joining their Crusade.
    >> Brother Non Enim Desinit Homo 09/19/11(Mon)23:19 No.16358786
    >>16358722

    This very much this.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)23:21 No.16358815
    >>16358416
    I had an idea, and you just finished it for me.
    Basically, the way I envision Obstinate Marines working, is that each class of marine is as heavily armored as the next armor class.
    Scouts are as armored as regular Space Marines, Space Marines are as armored as Terminators, Terminators are as armored as Dreadnaughts, and Dreadnaughts are as armored as Titans.
    But what of their Titans?

    They have no Titans. They have The Train.

    If their battlebarge detects an obstacle in the path of the objective, they deploy The Train. As they make way toward whatever obstacle they make, the enginseers lay tracks behind them, and over the weeks of their campaign The Train is constructed at their landing sight by Techpriests. Once the obstacle has been found, the Marines hold position until the tracks are layed, and out of those that are willing to give their lives, they board The Train and step on the gas, knowing full well that they will not survive the impact.
    After all is well and done, the scrap from The Train is recovered and used to build another.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)23:22 No.16358821
    also is it just me or does this chapter bring an entirely new meaning to Assault Terminators?
    >> Brother Non Enim Desinit Homo 09/19/11(Mon)23:22 No.16358822
    >>16358486

    If you don't mind me asking, whats the estimated time for the codex?
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)23:24 No.16358833
    >>16358815
    *If their battlebarge detects an obstacle so great that an Obstinate Dreadnaught cannot plow though, they deploy The Train
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)23:32 No.16358934
    >>16357875

    add me on Steam: Synthonym.
    >> Librarian Watt Mard 09/19/11(Mon)23:33 No.16358946
    A friend suggested a nice little new rumor.

    Rumor from a friend:
    When the Emperor said, "Go forth and conquer the stars in my name" and blah blah blah great crusade, they made a vow to NEVER stop their crusade. They will continue until the end of time, or the Emperor himself says stop. Then, and only then, will they ever cease their crusade.
    Or so the rumor goes.

    Also question: To avoid legal beagals of Games Workshop, should I say "Unit is as found in the Codex Spess Mahreens" book, but with additional equipment? I think the best way to represent these marines is not new stats, but rather additional rules and extra equipment.

    IE: Assault Terminators can take Jet Packs (and may only move forward along the ground, like a rocket propelled wall of iron. Tank-Shock/Ramming rules may be used?)
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)23:34 No.16358953
    By the way, since these fellows don't know the Grand Crusade is over and they don't know about the Horus Heresy, you know what that means?
    They don't know of or recognize the Ecclesiarchy or the words of the Lectitio Divinatus, because they don't know the Emperor is dead.
    Their faith is unwavering, because as far as they are aware the big man is still going strong, even if the other Legions stopped crusading, the lazy bastards.
    >> Anonymous 09/19/11(Mon)23:36 No.16358965
    >>16358953
    new thread? we're way past autosage.
    >> Librarian Watt Mard 09/19/11(Mon)23:36 No.16358968
    >>16358934
    Telling me that is wrong and unable to find you.
    >> Librarian Watt Mard !1IU2nB2lT2 09/19/11(Mon)23:41 No.16359015
    >>16358965
    I got this shit.
    >>16359011
    >> Brother Perambulus 09/19/11(Mon)23:55 No.16359162
    >>16358968

    [hewp] Synthonym ? That's literally what it is.
    >> Anonymous 09/20/11(Tue)01:07 No.16359882
    Deathwatch Rules:

    Demeanour: No Mercy, No Respite
    Stat Modifiers: +5 Toughness and Strength
    Squad Mode Offense: Tactical Finesse
    Squad Mode Defense: Courage Under Fire
    Special Equipment: Modified Jump Pack (Terminator class)

    Unsure of which Solo Mode to take.
    >> Anonymous 09/20/11(Tue)01:09 No.16359908
    >>16359882
    Oh, and I think we also need a Curse of the Primarch in which we become inable of doing much outside the objective.



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