>>16301023
bump

Confusing, can you explain a little better?

rolled 55 = 55

Holy fuck those rules...

>>16301231
whats so complicated?
You play in the present boards, 1 - 4 moving pieces around, or you can move a piece in the past/future board.

At the end of the 4 boards the present boards are adapted to best represent the past board, and the future board is adapted to best represent the present boards.

It all seemed pretty clear to me

>>>16301231
>>16301238
FUCK it crashed. I lost the whole explanation.

>>16301324
...but what do you do?
Are there spaces on the boards?
Do you have more than one piece? Can you gain or lose them?
I don't know what I'm reading.

>>16301324
>>16301333
Anyhow, this guy has the jist of it.

One thing I need to include:
>if there is no Present concensus for a peice, it remains unmoved.
As listed before, if another peice moves to its spot by majority, it gets captured int the future.

>>16301343
>...but what do you do?
>Are there spaces on the boards?
>Do you have more than one piece? Can you gain or lose them?
>I don't know what I'm reading.

Well, it's Chess, nd it plays by Chess rules, with the exceptions this TimeCube adds to it. Every square in the image is another chess board, and has its own set of black and white pieces.
ANything else?

>>16301343
its chess dude. Each board has all the peices a chess board would have.

Hence the name TIMECUBE CHESS

>>16301324
>>Seemed pretty clear to me

Are you some sort of theoretical physicist? Even my best Doctor Who knowledge can't help me here.


OH SHIT i just got it. So you move a piece on the past board, then all the present boards change to reflect it? but who moves first on the past board?

>>16301355
WELL MAYBE I DIDN'T SEE THE WORD CHESS BECAUSE I AM A MORON OKAY?

>>16301352
So... you play on the past board, and then that changes what happens on the present boards, and then that changes the future board?

>>16301366
nah man, Im just a basement nerd.
And the past board doesnt update to the present boards until the end of a 4 turn cycle.

>>16301366
Here's the update.

>>16301366
> but who moves first on the past board?
Whoever wants to. Its a coin toss to see if the game goes clockwise or counterclockwise, but the Past doesn't even have to be touched to change the Future and win the game.

Keep in mind, this is a game about options. You don't have to take an option, but they are nice to have.

>>16301369
yes, this is what happens.

there are 4 turns in a round.
each player gets 1 move for each present board. This move can either be taken on the current active board, the past board, or the future board.

After all 4 present boards have been played upon (or atleast the moves used elsewhere) then the update cycle happens, present changes to resemble past to the best of its ability. and then future tries to best represent the most democratic version of the present.

>>16301371
So:
4 turns on past board
change present board 1 to match past board
4 turns on past board
change present board 2 to match past board

It says that you can choose to move on either the past or future boards? That confuses me. I mean, I understand that, but wouldn't moving on the future board not affect the other ones?
Except... no, something about the present.

nope I'm confused again.

>TIMECUBE
I'm sorry but those two words together, I can't help by think of stupidity and bigotry that even the worst of /b/ can't rival. You need to change the name.

>>16301404
fukck it crashed again, wiping myexplanation, gimme asec.

>>16301391
Isn't is always a thing that White goes first?
I thought that was a thing.
If I'm not crazy and that is a thing, you should keep it.

>>16301424
It was inspired by this thread:
>suptg=[THREAD DELETED]
Whaaaaat.

I know you are referring to the bullshit Timecube philosophy. Sorry about that.

>>16301435
>white goes first!
Does it? I always played by coin toss.

>>16301404
Ok, here the short version of what I wrote before.
You get One Turn per Present Board. Once you play each turn on each Present board, thats 4 turns, ending the Round. At the end of a Round, you resolve the Past with the Present, and then carry on those changes to resolve the Present with the Future. This happens only once a Round, at the end of each Round.

Now, change the Past, you change the present, which changes the future. You change the Future, it does nothing else to the other boards but is necessary to get your Future King out of check or something, or to put Their Future King into check or checkmate.

You can Skip your Turn to make a change in the Past or the Future. The resolution takes effect at the end of the Round.
Cool?

>>16301023
I think I may remember the thread you refer to.

>>16301511
The crazy one where /tg/ tried to make 4 dimensional chess, then made 5 dimensional chess?
That's the one. I believe it got graveyarded so I couldn't find it on suptg archives.

>>16301520
bump

>>16301482

I don't know what the hell are you talking about, but it sounds awesome.

>>16301618
You get four turns per round. you can spend you turn normally, or changing the timeline. Shit get temporally resolved at the end of four turns. Repeat.

>>16301633
bump

I think I'd have to see a video of this in action to actually get it.

The block of text on the left:
>Moves on the present board must resolve at the end of four turns blah blah
is extremely obtuse. In fact, /as written/ you would annihilate all except (at most) four pieces per side from every present board at the end of the first round. Since all but four pieces would still be in their starting positions and therefore coincide, you see?

Still, anything that makes chess more dynamic and less "lol i memorized 500 openings" is good in my book.

>>16301750
I updated it later on to fix some issues.

>>16301750
Sorry, what would you like clarified?

>>16301750
>>16301755
>>16301772
oh shit I see what you mean, gimme a sec.

>>16301790
Updated again to fix that issue. Thanks Vedi!

>>16301333
Firefox Extension: Textarea Cache. Have a nice day.

Also bump because this is hilarious and I want it to still be here when I'm done minecrafting.

>>16301901
Now I have to go find 5 chessboards and somebody willing to play this shit.

>>16302215
SIX chess boards. What are you, educated ONEist stupid? Cube has 4Sides 4 corner simultaneous existence with top and bottom!

This deserves a bump.

>>16302051
Thanks for the extension, Bro! But does it work with 4chanX?
OP has returned!

>>16302051
I use Chrome, bro.

If you don't mind I"m going to establish some more terminology before going further:
P = Past; R = pResent; F = Future; Rr = P resolution; Fr = F resolution (propagation of changes, annihilation, etc)
Trade = a sequence of two moves. Notation T##
Useful Unicode: ♔ ♚ ♕ ♛ ♖ ♜ ♗ ♝ ♘ ♞ ♙ ♟

>>16301482
Just to clarify this point, that is EACH PLAYER plays their turn on each board?
So assuming first(white), then WP1 has W and B both make a move; then play shifts to BP1 where B, then W, makes a move? (Assuming a fairly "normal" round).

Also, in the case of moves in P or F, if after white's play on BP1 white decides to move on P, is black also bound by rule to similarly effect a change on the past state? (I'd argue against this as it makes for a more interesting game.)

EDIT: Never mind; I read back over and see that change propagation was covered. I'll leave the below here because I bothered to type it and maybe it'll be useful to someone else (houe-rules, tweaks, ideas, etc)
Similarly, how are changes from past to present and present to future propagated? Is it immediate? Is there a delay? Is it instantaneous or timed.
Example:
T01 WR1- ♙E4 ♟F5
T02 BR1- ♟E4 ♙C5
T03 P- ♙D3 ♞C6

P♙D3 could:
-Immediately propagate to the present
-Propagate only after ♞C6 (one trade)
-Propagate at the end of the round (I believe you may have mentioned something of this sort?)
-Propagate after the subsequent trade (canonically, BR2)

Additionally, I'd like the exact nature of the propagation clarified further. A propagation from the past might be:
-Only to the present (thus updating the state of the present without yet affecting the past)
-Present AND Future
-Present then future with delay (one move, trade, round, etc.)

-With promotion; is the change in rank likewise propagated forward exactly? Or could P♙G8♖ result in Rr♙G8♗? If not, do paradox rules account for white having three rooks?

-How are changes propagated to the past? You've noted that P → R is at the end of a round and there is no F → R relationship, but conversely there must be an R → P propagation or P will become so divorced from the current state of R as to not be relevant.

-In the event there's a perfect tire in the consensus of a piece's position, I assume the F position carries greater weight (thus altering R and P indirectly)? Can this cause annihilation in P such that it propagates forward and destroys the piece in F as well?

-Is history resolution recursive or singly iterative in nature? That is, would the above situation be instantaneous or have a round of windfall to allow history to "correct" the situation?

I like it anon; lots of juicy corner cases!

>>16304371
>Similarly, how are changes from past to present and present to future propagated? Is it immediate? Is there a delay? Is it instantaneous or timed.
Delayed until the end of the Round. Also, you are not REQUIRED to make a move in the past or the future at any point, unless the opponent has put your Past/Future King in check, whether it be by direct manipulation of the timeline, or the result of paradox resolution.

>>16304345
No idea; I don't use that. But it's so generally useful I'd install it anyway. The amount of inane ranting that has saved me has worth beyond measure.

>>16304321
Now why would you go and do a silly thing like that? (trolololol)

test post

>>16304545
HALLELLUJAH! AFTER TWO HOURS OF WAITING!


Oh, I REALLY like you, Anon!
>>16304377
>With promotion; is the change in rank likewise propagated forward exactly?
I had not considered that, but will say YES. Promotions in the Past will result in the unit now existing in the new location as it's new rank. Promotion in the Present (possibly via one in the Past) will be less likely to occur due to non-consensual resolution of the same piece in each of the four Presents.

>How are changes propagated to the past?
They aren't. You can make a move directly in the Past, but time is purely one way.
>Is history resolution recursive or singly iterative in nature?
Singly iterative, unless I mistake your intention.

>-In the event there's a perfect tire in the consensus of a piece's position, I assume the F position carries greater weight (thus altering R and P indirectly)?
The F(Future) position is the WEAKEST in the game. Consider each piece has a level of Temporal Force. A piece with a TP of 4 has all four boards supporting it's existence in the future, because it is in the same spot on all four Present boards, while a piece that has does not have any concensus not only does not move, but also has a TP of 1, making it possible for almost any directly moved unit in the future to capture it.

>>16304548
bump

MY BRAIN IS FULL OF FUCK!

Im confused. Not by TimeCube chess, but by the refrences to 'crashing' and these posts:
>>16304545
>>16304548

What exactly is happening here?

>>16305850
Well, the crashing posts are when the 4chanX Chrome fast reply tool crashes all instances of 4chan, because it doesn't like it when I hit the Enter Key to add another line sometimes.

The other posts are referring to me being unable to post on 4chan. At all. Pic related, it's what I get for hours at a time. and status.4chan says that Posting is down, but just for me.

>>16306798
bump

You mentioned a paradox state, which would effectively freeze 2 future pieces together until (presumably) the present was 'fixed' to resolve the paradox.

What if such a situation occurs involving the king, would that be... temporal check?

>>16307132
>What if such a situation occurs involving the king, would that be... temporal check?
Good question... Thanks for this!
I would say No, as this prevent a paradox frozen Future King from being subject to Checks and Checkmate in the Future.

>>16307132
Another point, of multiple Paradoxes occuring.
Assume you have two pieces in Paradox, and then another piece moves to the same Location. It would also then be stuck in Paradox. This makes Paradoxes temporal traps, and possible triple-kills for a smart enemy player, when he moves his opposing pieces into Paradox with yours and has a higher Temporal Force sustaining it than the fellows in Paradox.

You talk like a fag and your shit's retarded.

So if in the first round everyone moves their pawns around on the present boards, does the resolution become moving them all back so they resemble the past?

>>16307310
Nope. The past is one point in time, the future is another point in time, and the present is in between.
The Past only effects the Present when and only after you directly manipulate it.

>>16307310
thanks for that though. I''ll fix that in the next update of the rules.
Think of it like two armies coming to battle. The Past is the two formations coming at eachother, while the present is four different possible ways the battle could go, and the Future is some point in the Future in which the four possible realities resolve themselves.

Moving pieces in the past is as though you are altering your pre-battle formation, so as to exploit your future knowledge of the enemy's movements in the Present.