It's... it's beautiful

this has serious potential

I laughed so much harder than I should have.

ACCURSED AFFLICTION! I AM DOING GOOD. ITS HORRIBLE.

Fucking AWESOME

Wait, wait, wait, this wasn't everyone's first instinct when reading that entry?

>Turn into bear
>Go fishing

Carry on.

funniest and most awesome case of lycanthropy I've heard about, haha.

Oh fuck, you're like benevolently sinister.

Hah, I was expecting the Werebear to murder the shit out of his own party, but that's even better.

I knew the aligment system was retarded but this comes as a surprise.

*necromancer succeeds roll*

OH MY GWAAAAA GUYS I DO GOOD DURING FULL MOONS

WE NEED TO CURE ME NOWNOWNOWONWNOWONW

OP here, what should i have him do next?

There is a prestige class called Bear Warrior, but a barbarian cannot be a werebear without falling.
Alignment makes a lot of sense.

>>16276306
FOIL HIS OWN PLANS!

>>16276306
Fight bandits, carry people across a raging river, and fuck up some bees, because bees are chaotic evil.

this is awesome.
make him build cave refugees for the villagers where he cannot find them, with bee hive traps against himself.
maybe donating to the church, that always torture the players.

This gives me an amazing idea: The players are hired to hunt down several werewolves who have been terrorizing the area. unbeknownst to them, the werewolves are THEM.

The PCs are the BBEG.

>>16276306
Make his bear form figure out that he's normally an evil necromancer (shouldn't be too hard when he wakes up in a room full of disfigured corpses etc), and kill himself.

Such a dick move, but lolwin.

archive. this. shit.

>>16276369
Thievery is happening to this idea. Now.

>>16276390
The first half had merit.

>>16276306
Smash some skeletons and such. Next day, vow to destroy the rebels destroying your undead.

>>16276369
That only lasts as long as they fail to make that Wisdom check.

>>16276390
>Make his bear form figure out that he's normally an evil necromancer
Bueno, this is a great idea-
>and kill himself.
Fail, never GM

>>16276317
"Hahahaha! I like your style, friend."

Have him wake up naked next to naked druids, apparently he was a part of a shapeshifting orgy with nature lovers.

A few questions:
Are there any normal and/or dire bears in the area?
Is a werebear sapient or intelligent in it's changed form?
Can it communicate with "vanilla" bears?

If yes to the above, four words: Villager Bear Cavalry Militia.

Then what if he was bitten by the moon?

werebear romances female NPC who swoons at his manly bear-ism and falls in love with him. She begins a plot to turn the necromancer to the side of good so that she may also enjoy his company on the other 27 days of the month.

AND/OR

'cure' for lycanthropy involves splitting PC into two beings - evil necromancer and good werebear. The two must then fight - TO THE DEATH. Have the player keep playing the one that survives.

>'cure' for lycanthropy involves splitting PC into two beings - evil necromancer and good werebear. The two must then fight - TO THE DEATH. Have the player keep playing the one that survives.

I love this idea, despite it not making sense in this setting.

>'cure' for lycanthropy involves splitting PC into two beings - evil necromancer and good werebear. The two must then fight - TO THE DEATH. Have the player keep playing the one that survives.

THIS

Once he is aware of his condition you have to engineer a way to encourage him to change, just once, willingly.

>Any voluntary change to animal or hybrid form immediately and permanently changes the character’s alignment to that of the appropriate lycanthrope.

>weretroll.jpg
Problem, LG hero?

>>16276576
but that's not how it worksssssssss :(

>>16276590
IT'S CALLED THE RULE OF COOL, PUSSY

Have the werebear infect the rest of the necromancer's evil friends. Now, every full moon, the campaign is suddenly about a group of LG werebears saving a village being troubled by an evil necromancer and his allies.

>>16276613

Honestly, I bet you could pull this off with two different groups of players. It would get pretty hilarious if they bumped into each other by the water cooler.

>>16276566
Fuck making sense, it's an awesome idea and needs to be done.

>>16276613

I like the cut of your jib.

This thread and the one about making a punch wizard able to lift the universe makes me want to play D&D simply to break it.

>>16276613
...And perhaps, realizing he's an evil necromancer, the bear would curse himself and his allies to never remember what they do on the full moon! And their lycanthropy activates more often!

no john, you are the heroes

>necromancers face when

Clearly he needs to become Bear Man, the half-bear superhero who fights crime by night

>>16276708
Neeeeext M&M character.
How many flaw points is that worth?

Does this mean that if the PC was infected by a wereboar, which is neutral, he'd sit around and smoke weed all day, not caring about anything?

>>16276892
They tend to just wander around.

Maybe eat some mushrooms.

>>16276892
yeah but he'd never get infected by a wearboar, because all the do all day is sit around and smoke weed, not caring about anything.

>>16276910

Pick up a wereboar and jam it's tusks into your face until you fail a Fort save.

>>16276931
>>16276910
or steal his weed

>>16276980
NOBODY TOUCHES MY CHRONIC, SNORT SNORT!

>>16276892
WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU GET BIT BY A WERE-HONEY BADGER?

>>16277082
NOBODY CARES

>>16277082
Instant BBEG

>>16277082
>Implying you would survive

>>16276892
You wake up. Someone has taken the skull of your undead minion and turned it into a candy bowl.

Someone in this wretched villa still resists your authority...

Someone will pay.

>>16277082
You become a complete and total dick that enjoys chewing off the testicles of whoever gets in your way.

>>16277082
silly anon
The Were-Honey Badgers dies out with the same generation that they were created.
along with everything else in that region of the world.

>>16277136
Oh god you're right.

Even if they gave the half-a-fuck it would take to make sure that everything they fought (and ate) was dead, it would still manage to kill EVERYTHING in maybe a few weeks, tops?

bump

>>16277082

have the wearbear don a helm of opposite alignment, when he wakes up he'll be a lawful good Conjurer

Isn't the animal form actually neutra? I thought the Lawful Good part was just the alignment that is most common among werebears and their bear forms are still neutral.

>>16278466
Even under the alignment section specifically for bear form, it says always Lawful Good.

Bears are godless killing machines. They know nothing of law.

Also, enjoy your new wife.

>>16275993
The new face of teegee...

>>16277278>>16277278
>To make matters worse, during the frenzy, all bite attacks have double the normal chance to transmit lycanthropy.

bump for late night crowd.

Wow its been like a month since I saw an idea I'd steal and this I would steal the shit out of.

If this happened to me I would laugh and laugh and laugh... Mainly because its just something that would happen to me.

Now I do know people that would freak the hell out that their character is now ruined. But then they were also whiny shits and complained when things did not go right for them all the time.

I remember one game where one of them bitched for an hour when they lost their character. All I said was "That was your first... I am currently on my 6th. Cry more."

>>16277278
I'm sorry, but thanks to Redwall there's no way I can consider badgers to be Chaotic Evil.

Well, Redwall and the college I attend.

>>16276613
Oh god, that is fantastic. Party of warebears? Hell yes.

>>16276854
You could probably houserule a big flaw that the change is unwilling. That's what I'd do.

Why don't prisons just have werebear wardens that bite all the convicts so they're Lawful Good?

>>16279928

I have to do this in my next campaign.

>>16279928
Because they are ONLY Lawful Good when they are changed into Werebears during the full moon. The REST of the month they're their normal, evil selves.

>>16279963

I though the alignment was progressively changing to a middle ground between the lycantropy form and the original PC.

>>16279973
Nope. When transformed they are Lawful Good. They have to WANT to change alignment when in normal human mode.

>>16279963
Once they know they are a lycanthrope, they have to make a progressively more difficult will save every time they change, or permanently become the alignment of their animal form, even when in human form. And if they ever change on purpose, they automatically become that alignment, no save. So they can't even use that ability to break out of prison without immediately deciding that they deserve to be their.

>>16280008
there* even

>>16279928

hm....
note to self: super dogmatic society; forces any malcontents to be bitten by werebears and imprisoned in a penal colony that through some form of magic or another has full moon effects every day for the whole year, unless they agree to make a voluntary shift to werebear and enlist in the country's crusades to 'enlighten' other realms, who naturally fear the werebear overlords.

Werebear paladins may or may not use normal bears as mounts.

>>16280038
Mother of god.

I don't get it, the moon is technically always out so shouldn't lycanthropy be constant never ending torture regardless of time? I mean, just because you can't see the moon doesn't mean it isn't always there, it still effects tides in the morning, noon and night regardless of visibility... So what the fuck? Why does it, simply being 'at night with a full moon' matter at all? The way the moon looks from the Earth is entirely due to its position in relation to the sun, so shouldn't lycanthropy be attributed to the sun instead of the moon, if anything?

Curses, how do they work?

>>16280251

>Science & Magic.

No. Please. No. This is a fine thread about bears. Please, no, I beg you.

>>16280251
it just happens to kick in when the moon is full; the curse is there all the time, that's why it's possible to make voluntary transformations

>>16280251
Magic.

Seeing the moon, defining it as the moon. Saying "look, that is the moon" is what sets it off.

Consensus reality and all that jazz makes applying science to most magical paradigms a waste of time since science is just a product of consensus reality in any setting that works that way.

>>16280267
The GLORY of Doom mocks your inability to use both for the greater power of the whole.

With this cool pose, I, VICTOR VON DOOM, employ both science and magic and look pimp as shit doing it.

>>16280251
>Sun-bound lycanthropy.

>In an interesting twist, werebears are raping and killing people in broad daylight and turning back into humans at night, more at eleven.

Actually I can see some novice arcane caster totally fucking up his curse spell and this totally happens.

>>16280267
magic IS science.

picture if you will, a race of beings, old enough to predate whatever current world you're residing on. they evolved and learned much like we did, but, given that we don't know how much time they had to dick around before they vanished, they could have advanced their knowledge of the universe and applied sciences to the point of say,
oh i don't know, a universal system that could reform and disperse matter when presented with passwords (magic incantations) or visual identification (sigils, runes, etc)

>>16280251
Have you, like, *never* heard of werewolves? It happens at a full moon because it happens at a full moon. Yipes and cripes, man.

>>16280397
The moon is always full technically, that's the point.

>>16276333

laughed at this harder than I should have.

Party of were-bears channeling the spirits of winnie the pooh, yogi, and baloo?

>>16280465

"Only the light of the sun reflected on the half of the moon at night can awake the curse of lycantropy"

Welp, here you go.

>>16280484
Jungle Book Baloo, or TailSpin Baloo?

>>16280484
The Pooh in that party is going to be a complete asshole.

Perhaps even enough of one to be party leader.

>>16280484
Don't forget Smokey Bear. Imagine one evil player seeing a forest fire, and making a will save. When he passes, he sheds a single tear, and doesn't know why...

Bear Fucker Man

The BBEG of this campaign.

>fucking up bees

After a few months, Necromancer notices that he has a shit-ton of honey in his larder. There's also a market for honey in his surrounding villages that the villages can't account for. Barrels of the stuff just show up once a month, and it helps them get by.

Wereform has been campaigning against a hive of dire bees, who are now paying him honey in tribute. They've also declared war on the Necromancer's undead minions.

>>16280725
The bees are the minions of a particularly homosexual werepig druid.

>>16275993
OP your wearbear better tap for G

>>16275993
OP your wearbear better tap for G

>this entire thread

I love you, /tg/.

"Would you make a Wisdom check, please? DC 15."

*Rolls dice*

"Yeah, I made it, so what?"

"Did you know that you like to attack with your natural weapons?"

If the Werebear passes his Wis Check, have him become aware not just of his necromancer side, but all his plans.

He immediately resolves to go and fuck up those plans in the only way expected of a bear. Mauling and biting the shit out of it.

Any surviving minions will babble incoherently about a walking bear as they're dying.

>>16279984
I call bullshit.
>A character with awareness of his condition retains his identity and does not lose control of his actions if he changes. However, each time he changes to his animal form, he must make a Will save (DC 15 + number of times he has been in animal form) or permanently assume the alignment of his animal form in all shapes.

>>16280251
Its the moonlight that does it. The pure light of the entire moon not being corrupted by the harsh light of the sun is required. Also, i hear people become more easily aroused during full moons.

>>16281229
>Also, I hear people become more easily aroused during full moons.

I'm pretty sure that's thunderstorms.

>>16281216
Oh god, that would be such a sure way to dick over the necromancer.

"Yeah, you made the DC check. You also noticed that a curse has been placed to have the moon remain full every single night. Better hurry up on that cure!"

>>16281751
Pretty sure that's nighttime.

why are werebears lawful good exactly?

thems bears will eat you slowly.

>>16282877
Because when the question "What would the most badass wereX paladin be?" the answer was bears.

This thing is the best thing ever, and I love you all.

Werebear Paladin of Pelor, a repentant Rogue blessed so that he changes into a werebear at day time.

Bump.

>>16282877
Because Beorn from the Hobbit.

>>16283275

Lycanthropes can change voluntarily at any time day or night, they change involuntarily during the full moon.

Make them all werebears!

Shenanigans ensue!

So wait, if werebears are Lawful Good, which wereanimal is Chaotic Evil? Just out of curiosity.

>>16286099

>>16277278

>>16286721
Bah, badgers are boring. I was hoping for a weresnake or something awesome.

>>16277082
Azrael from Ravenloft happens

Could you possibly make it a werebear paladin, just so it can have a celestial bear mount?

But seriously guys, why is it that it took this guy pointing it out to you to think of this?

Like, the fact that not all animals had evil forms of lycanthropy made me always want to make Good or Neutral lycanthropes whose normal form was evil.

Usually, I thought of it in terms of an NPC, 'cause controlling a PC is difficult, but this idea has always been in the back of my mind.

Why else would Werebears be LG?

If were curse infects everything the victim bites, how long before there are armies of them every full moon?

>read OP
>scan thread for screenshot
Dammit, you guys.

>>16287184
>Why else would Werebears be LG?
because if a fucking werebear says he's right, who is going to argue with him?

>>16288677
/thread

>>16287301
Wait, what?

>>16276306
The bearform activly attempts to counter any evil acts done when not a bear
this bear-form becomes a overarching enemy, causing the party to search for the cause, eventually (after much effort) the group find out who it is, at this point, the bear from has become the BBG and lich and bear must fight it out in their head for dominance.

Werebear is still a mage, isn't he? Have him secretly research the ways to eradicate his evil human form and stay as a bear forever. It could be really fun when PC finds out.

I think it is more fun if he just keeps the bear form as a mysterious do-gooder. No need to have the bear actively sabotage the necromancer, it is enough that he undoes the damage done or makes it harder for the necromancer to do his work.

It's hard to raise an undead army with any subtlety if all of the communities have better food, medicine,and higher life expectancy.

For extra fun have the villagers treat the bear as some superhero. Obviously he's a big freaking human or maybe even a half-orc who is wearing a Bear mask and saving communities. Imagine the frustration of the party when any investigations only point within if they go anywhere at all.

This would be an awesome reversal of the usual lycanthropy story.

Evil man mauled by werebear turns to goodness, proceeds to kick ass and maul entire evil cult into more with BEAR JUSTICE.