>heh, the male one's crotch has a ... oh. oh god. fuck. fuck that. fuck off. god damn it.

Colour another picture in with a pencil.

>>16094220
Genital sheath?

>>16094220
Even as a furry, when I noticed that, I was like
>And WotC was OK with -THAT-?!

>>16094229

>>16094228
Been trying to trace some DAZ renders to make art myself, but I keep finding myself unsatisfied with the results.

>>16094229
Correct, though the proper term is cloaca. [/assburgers] [/knows_too_much]

>>16094239
> implying that that's WotC art.

>>16094273
I remember seeing a similar image (shruken down from the original resolution) as the default portrait for a dragonborn with the gender not yet chosen in the offline Character Builder app.

As far as it actually being WotC artwork, a quick Google search of the original filename shows that it's by Jared Turlock, whose name isn't in PHB1, so it may not be official. Might have been pre-production concept art.

>>16094198
The female has mammaries, so she feeds milk to her spawn.
They also happen not to have lips but sharp beaks.
Ouch.

why the fuck do they have nipples? and why is there a nail coming out of their ankles :|

>>16094375
The rear-facing toe is fairly common in the animal kingdom. It helps bird-hip types and those with backward knees (not a biologist so I don't know the technical term... digitigrade?) to balance, by giving them a wider gripping area.

Or something.

>>16094375
First question: see >>16094340
Second question: it's a dew claw. It's a vestigial digit. Probably a remnant of their draconic heritage that they've evolved out of.

>>16094340
They don't have beaks

>>16094386

Yeah, but that's what heels are for. Which they have. And a backward facing toe.

As far as reptilian anatomy goes, the feet are pretty terribad. If anything, they should have a vestigial spur around their inside ankles instead of a toe jutting from their heel. That thing's just begging to get broken when they run.

HEY, OP,
Tell me about your player's character. Gender? Color? Weapon selection?
Tell me what he's look'n for and I'll see what I have.

No promises, but you've just not given anyone anything to work with.

>>16094706
Male, black scales with purple scales on the stomach, gold eyes. Wears crimson scalemail and uses a maul.

>>16094727
Well, I have this one.

It's kinda flat, but it matches the character.

>>16094797
It'll do for now. I'll just have to nag a friend or grab a commission to get it exact.

>>16094839
If I knew what he wanted in the face department, I'd be glad to take a shot at a bust.

Rule 63

Are people that shocked that someone did a nude anatomy shot of a WotC product they handled?

>>16094862
... I don't think anybody's shocked.
It's just the same 'WHY DO THEY HAVE TITS?!"

>>16094874

because humans like them?

and having a PC race that is biological and not a horror would probably look like the other PC races, and all other flesh bags have females with ta-ta pontiental?

Why is everyone so iffed about the dudes genetalia? Looks kinda practical.

>>16094982

penis envy?

I"d rather male and female Dragonborn looked identical, and you could only tell the sex by ramming a thumb up their ass like Steve Irwin.

I have no pictures of black Dragonborn, so have the only white one I've ever found.

>>16094982
The concept of a [i'm not even describing it] penis that recedes and emerges from a more dense and rough 'package' is kinda disgusting.

>>16094916
> because humans like them?
I don't know, do they?

>>16094220

>>16094394
dew claws are not attached at the ankle or anywhere near it
and i thought dragonborn are humanoid reptiles not scaly humans so why would they have mammary glands (that being said i don't really know their lore if they are some sort of human hybrids i guess it can make sense)

>>16095024
well, they're not humans are they? I wouldn't hit on a dragonborn regardless of how their schlong operates, it's going to be a rough ride regardless with all those scales. I just don't fail to find it disturbing I'm affriad...

>>16095066
BECAUSE MAGIC BITCH!
You're trying way to hard.

Their born from dragons with the 'magic genes' from non-dragon species I do believe. So there's some mammal in there.

>>16095066

>humanoid reptiles /= scaly humans

except that being humanoid might imply certain "human traits" and that by a race having them, it seems less odd.

>>16095066
Why do female Shardminds have boobs?
Because boobs are awesome.

>>16095066
They've been stated to be monotremes. Like platupi.

Dragonborn? More like dragonbros.

>>16095209

>>16095214

>>16094198


Why the fuck do reptiles need boobs and nipples?

>>16095229

To nourish their newly-hatched young, of course.

Why not?

>>16095229

to feed their young, and to shame the elves.

>>16095118
And because big boobed bitches in clothes that show off their bum, belly and cleavage, equals horny teenage monies. And there's a lot of them.

It's like why everyone plays Modern Warfare, claiming they like it because of all the "realism", while something like IL-2 Sturmovik or Steel Beast Pro are just "boring" or "what's that you talking about, pops?" For the same reason people play games with big tittied elves on the covers, because they're "fun", not because of all the big tittied elves that you can wank to afterwards with some help from the internet.

But you must never say this out loud. No, if you made an actual game about big titted sex, it'd get the X-rated stamp and lots of angry ladies demonizing on it like that. But just put on pictures of people who look like they do porn for a living, and cover it all with bright colours and flashy lights, and it'll dull all parents into "aw, it's a kiddie game" state of mind, and then it's ok for you to play it.

*sigh*

I'm sorry, sometimes I forget my age and get confused when young people don't know any of the things that I remember from my youth, like the Cold War, and the lack of mobile phones and the internet. When you actually had to remember shit, instead of just googling it.

And when RPG characters had to roll to tie their shoelaces or die trying, and we liked it just the way it was.

>walking, talking, fire-breathing lizard people who use magic

COOL

>they have boobs

OMG UNACCEPTABLE THIS IS AN AFFRONT TO BIOLOGY MY IGUANA HAS NO BOOBS THEREFORE YOUR FANTASY DRAGON PERSON COULD NOT POSSIBLY

>>16095273
I would play the fuck out of a Call of Duty with Elves with big tits, it'd be amazing.

Also to anyone who says. No, they're not lizards, nor mammals. They're fantasy animals, mammaliam lizards. Similiar to both, but not really either.

AKA, IT'S FANTASY BITCH, THEY CAN HAVE BOOBS AND IT CAN BE COOL.

It also to partly show clevage, but guys designed them and they liked boobs, and to make them feel MORE human so more people want to play them, and females can feel closer to them if they were just a bit skinner than the guys.

It seems STUPID to not inculd breasts, toher than "LOL REALISMMMM, LIZARDS DON'T HAVE BOOOBIESSS".

If I remember, in thei first 4e picture they barely looked very feminine, but I may be wrong.

>>16095229
Maybe they are not reptiles, but mammals (hence mammary glands)? Not all mammals are just humans and four legged critters. Whales and dolphins are mammals, and have tits. The platypus is a mammal, with tits, and that fucker had a beak and layes eggs.

Or it's one of those magical animals, like dogs that are made of shadow and spawn by spray spider web on the embers of a dying fire to nurture its babies into existence, and once the fire dies out, they will hatch and scuttle off back into the shadows.

>>16095280
I'm not really all that upset about it, I just find it odd that all females, regardless of their inhumanity, must have tits. But that's heteronormativety for you, everything gotta fit into our pre set gender roles or some poor straight dude is going to get all angsty and uppset because he can't project/fap to it properly.

>>16095333
Kobolds are still cool.

But when they also get breasts, I quit Internet forever.

>>16095333

you do realize that shittons of mythologies have animal human hybirds with boobs, right?

Egyptian gods and all that.

It's not a new impulse.

>>16095346
agreed.

>>Inb4 someone posts kobold tits

>>16095280
the first part fits perfectly with in-world logic
the second part is meta bullshit and immediately breaks immersion

>>16095333

More like what >>16095311 said.

>to make them feel MORE human so more people want to play them

The more "human" something looks, the more people can relate to it. That's a fact. If there were almost no physical differences between a male and female of a beast-type race, chances are it would end up being a very unpopular and unused race/sex choice for female players (and male players who roleplay female characters).

Weren't Dragonborns "made" instead of actually "born"? Perhaps it's a remnant of their human anatomy, not fully transformed into whatever the draconic equivalent should be.

>>16095351
>>Heteronormativity
>>New impulse

>>16095375

>the second part is meta bullshit and immediately breaks immersion
>meta

>>16095383

maybe,

the creator of humans in 4e is dead, and yuan-ti are basically modified humans. The dragonborn could have been made using any of the humanoid designs with females with boobs as a base.

Can we please agree that Dragonborn are a fantasy race of magical mammal like reptile people, and just leave it at that?

>>16095383
Dragonborn 'evolved' from ancient dragons, like before the Dawn War ancient.

>>16095383
3.5 Dragonborn are humans who begged to be Dragons, if I remember correctly.

4e are an actual race with unknown origins. (It's implied they're more "pure" forms of Dragons.) They used to be the most powerful race with a massive Empire before war within and without destroyed it.

At least in "Default" setting.

>>16095407
blasphemy! We're having so much fun!

/tg/, I have a quandary for you.
If DRAGONS can mate with anything, and HUMANS can mate with anything, what happens if a human mates with a dragon? What's the baby like?

>>16095439
A infertile offspring. Using logic.

A half dragon/half human mary sue race that can breed with anything twice as fast as the its parent races, using magic.

>>16095439
Dragon that can shape shift into a human.

Maybe they're human form has horns and scales and such.

>>16095320
all mammals got tits
no reptiles got tits

magic can create any form that is required but it means any weird shit was intentionally created to server some purpose

>>16095439
Before 4E, half-dragon. A human that develops wings and claws and shit as he ages.

After 4E, not sure.

>>16095311
>I would play the fuck out of a Call of Duty with Elves with big tits, it'd be amazing.

To tell the truth, so would I.

I don't mind all the sexyness, if it fits the setting. Having gritty "realism" and detailed military gear, and then some angsty butch lesbian with more exposed skin than sense, toting a massive gun and running around hating. It's like making love to a beautiful woman, and then your granny joins in.

But if it's a game all about that sort of thing, that doesn't take itself seriously (like Borderlands), then it's more like making love to a beautiful woman, and then your granny joins in, but it's okay, because she's also a hot woman, because it's the past, you got a time machine, loose morals, and are also your own grandad, in a few minutes.

>>16095439
... isn't this the ORIGIN of the Dragonborn? Descendants of people who mated with dragons?

>>16095467
Ergo, maybe they are not reptiles. You're forgetting that dragons have 6 limbs (4 legs and wings), which I don't find many reptiles having.

>>16095517
So dragons belong in the same group as insects?

>>16095478
Na, that's 3.5

>>16095469
Thing is...It's up to the player and GM to choose how sexy they want their game.

Base DnD isn't really...Anything. I mean, it's got some unique looks. (Such as the armours. They have a unique look) I look at the Dragonborn, I see boobs but not neccesarily sexiness, you know?

Just the potetional, but that's totally avoidable.

Also...Mmm, that'd be amazing. It's be like sexy Shadowrun in first person.

>>16095540
No, it just means that it belongs to a different class of animals, just like the pegasus.

We can't really evaluate fantasy animals with our own real world evolutionary charts. Where would a Beholder go to? Is it a mammal (does lady Beholder a big breast floating around?), a reptile, bird, insect, or what?

Remember, prior to Darwin and friends, for all people knew, animals spawned from holes in the ground. Fantasy is bound with mythology, not science. It's the realm where you can fuck Mother Earth and make shit appear (doesn't homunculus myth require sperm to be planted like plant seeds?), or have your nubile maiden virginity taken by the harsh seas, and summon a race of sea people from your vagina. Zeus, an Olympian and the descendant of the Titans, had sex with humans in animal form, and fostered babies! Super babies!

Where's your science now?


I don't mind a setting taking a turn from the Science Express, and all I care about is that it'll stay true to its own logic and world rules. But then again, having shit like wizard cleave a bear in half with a stick (thanks critical hit charts) or dwarf being so stubborn that it defies the laws of gravity, are just so much fun that sometimes we must forget "realism" and "science", and just fuck around a bit.

>>16095541
>Thing is...It's up to the player and GM to choose how sexy they want their game.

True on all fronts, but if the game flashes around artwork straight from WoW, it'll attract more of that crowd than the Tolkien ones favoring pseudo middle ages where magic was just a fancy word old farts threw around to scare people (how many actual spells are cast in whole of LotR).

>Base DnD isn't really...Anything. I mean, it's got some unique looks. (Such as the armours. They have a unique look)

That's another thing. Why does all armour come in sets like this is some computer game? First time playing D&D (4th ed.), I wanted my character to have hardened studded leather greaves and bracers, and a gambeson. Seemed like a light enough armour, no? "Yeah, sorry, your character cannot have that, you don't have scale mail feat."
>okay.jpg

Luckily I found out that in Japan they had something similar, but with leather slaps instead of metal plates in the jacket, so I just ran it as a leather armour. But still...

>I look at the Dragonborn, I see boobs but not neccesarily sexiness, you know?

But you do know someone's rubbing off to it, right?

>>16095742
I'm not getting into the WoW 4e argument, because I don't agree with it, but I do see your points.

Also, yeah I know, but humans have rubbed off to EVERYTHING. How common is porn with females getting fucked by animals?

Also, I've seen Dragonborn drawn in many ways, from sexy to badarse. I'm sure someone can't help but rub.

>>16095778
Ay, there's the rub.

>>16095778
>I'm not getting into the WoW 4e argument, because I don't agree with it, but I do see your points.

Not trying to go there (lord knows it's like having a race through Chernobyl reactor 4; you might win but only because you died last of shitting your internal organs out). Apart from the little snafu with the armour, the game was enjoyable, mostly because the GM wasn't a twit who couldn't do it if it wasn't in the rules, which meant that we could do stuff like makeshift molotov cocktails out of jugs of oil and some fire magic, etc.

My argument was more about things like if you're playing Call of Cthulhu, the chance of having Tank Girl like characters fucking things up is miniscule (unless the GM is sleeping or wanting to sleep with her fat assness), and there aren't many startrekian bald headed social workers in the grimdark of the far future (though lord knows some Tau players are trying as hard as they can).

The choice of game already has a great affect on how people will play, and what sort of people are attracted to it.