Waow...

Ain't you slow...that page has been there for days and days.

Oh shit it's been updated?

>>15972201
Man I simply cannot escape Gurren Lagann even after a 12 hour marathon/.

>>15972201
>25 July 2011: New page: 91
You're right.
On the other hand...
>23 May 2002: New page: 18

Hate to be the guy who asks this, but... sauce?

>>15972783
Nevermind, found it myself.

At this rate, it'll finish in less than thirty years! Awesome!

>nallize hilarity
I KNOW RIGHT

I think that we all know that it's the space elves that destroyed the human scout vesse;

>>15972907

My money's on the psilons.

>>15972907
No shit, they just blew it up with a missile. Signs point to how manipulative and cruel the space elves are-- just look at the diplomatic exchange on the bridge re: the existence of humans for your proof.

>>15972880
How? I've had no luck.

>>15972958
>manipulative and cruel
Erm. They lost one of their ships defending the remains of the human ship. The only reason they didn't just explode it and run was because OC McIforgothisname wanted the bodies for his summoning ritual or whatever.
So it's kinda his fault their friends died.

>>15972971
I'm guessing look at filename -> google Outsider Comic -> Profit.

Here you go though.
http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/

So is this, you know, leading to a threesome? Because that's the vibe I was getting here.

>>15973018
>ally race mentioning they were told by the elves nothing lived out in this region of space
>absolute disdain for anything not said in telepathic communication
>giving the other diplomats the equivalent of a middle finger when asked for clarification

>>15973053
No one knew humans existed.
That's why the humans send out those ships, to make first contact.

>>15973018

Their captain decided not to run so she could search it for loot.
Roger Wilco only asked to see their weapons fire so he could see if they shot any green beams.
He saw most of their beam weapons fire, but not all.

The Tempest is equipped with a beam weapon, I think it's called the Wave Motion Somethingorother. It takes time to charge before it fires, so they didn't use it in the battle scene.

On the bridge of the human ship, before it was destroyed? They detected a very large charge building in the alien ship that fired on them. It took several seconds for them to detect the charge, and several more for them to identify it as charging a weapon.

The bugs do not have an equivalent to the Wave Motion Gun. Only the Elves have a beam weapon that takes serious charge-time.

A weapon they decided not to use when the human survivor, who saw the beam that blew away his ship, was on their bridge.

And now they're rushing him off the bridge. Maybe they need to use this weapon the next time around, since the Umiak are using superheavies.

Nothin' suspicious goin' on here at all.

>>15973206

The Psilons have all the required technology and more, plus a disdainful and suspicious emissary.

The elves don't even have a proper WMG beam, they have a pulse cannon based on dumbed-down psilon beam. Bugs have a very short ranged beam so they weren't the culprits.

>>15973239

Yes they do. Hold on a second, lemme look through the tabletop wargame, I'll post the relevant part.

>>15973206
>>15973239
>using words I've never seen in the comic
Fucking tech pages.

>>15973206
Wave Loom, or what was it?

>>15973292

Wave loom is something bigger than what killed the human scoutship, that weapon did relatively little damage (cut it in half, left survivors and a clean hulk) and would be little use against screened and much larger and more advanced Umiak warships as a superweapon like the Wave Loom. Bellarmine got probably plasma focus'd.

>The idea behind the plasma focus (or plasma beam) is that you have some mechanism for focusing plasma into a tight beam over very long distances. I imagine some sort of "carrier wave" that accomplishes this long-range cohesion... here we're talking pretty high tech, even for the aliens, so only the Umiak and Historians have really mastered this technique. The advantages of the plasma focus are very high power and very good armor penetration/ablation; the disadvantage is limited range. The Historian version uses a different focusing mechanism than the Umiak version, and has significantly longer range.

>When the Historians gave the Loroi the plans for a dumbed-down version of their plasma focus, it was still too advanced for the Loroi to copy exactly. They could only get it to work in short bursts. The result was the Loroi pulse cannon, which sends pulses of plasma down the carrier wave to the target; it doesn't do as much damage as the Umiak plasma focus, but does significant damage at much longer ranges.

>>15973264

Alright.
Outsider Starship Combat Sim, pages 25 and 26.
Wave Loom Device, not Wave Motion Gun.
There you go.

>>15973313

1. Nobody knew how advanced the human ship might be. It could have been using some sort of supershield with amazing superadvanced armor as far as the attackers knew. Hit it with your best shot.

2. You don't know what kind of hole the Wave Thing would make. You just know that it would punch through heavy shields and armor. We just know that the beam that hit the Bellarmine blew right through it and that the next shot ignited their fuel.

3. It took minutes--MINUTES--between the first hit and Alex watching the second hit. Damage Control had to suit up and all that. The Historians would have been able to rapid-fire their plasma focus, and the Umiak would have had many plasma focuses to fire. There would have been a handful of SECONDS between hits. Alex would not have survived.

Someone hit them with a slow gun.

Author promised first page of Chapter 2 today.
Here's to hoping it comes out on time.

>>15973206
Probably those Historian fucks.

Also, new page should be out today. Chapter two started recently. The author has gotten his shit together, we usually get a page every week or two instead of every month or two.

>>15973403
>author promised
October 2001.
That's when this comic started.
October 2001.

>>15973417

He might be slow as fuck, but he's been - and I emphasize - consistently slow as fuck.
It'll come.

>>15973382

Historian and probably even Umiak (dunno about Loroi because lolfarsightimmune) would have seen the human ship for what it is.

And if the Historians wanted to not reveal themselves (and why would they), they could delay between shots. I'm not really convinced by anything shown so far that it was Loroi or Umiak.

>>15973403
I'm betting on next Monday. I'm just used to the comic updating on Monday when it does.

>>15973429

More evidence against wave-loom
>The wave loom is an area-of-effect weapon with enhanced penetration capabilities, which is limited by accuracy and power issues.

>It's meant to be a long range, area of effect weapon. I think of it in some ways like the German railroad guns of WWI -- fearsome, but with significant practical limitations that hinder its effectiveness.

The effect on Bellarmine, and the features of the gun (area of effect, inaccurate) make it even less likely to be what hit the humans (from a long range, and accurately with "clean" effect).

>>15973429
>And if the Historians wanted to not reveal themselves (and why would they), they could delay between shots.
Beryl said that the Tempest's sensors detected the shot. So there was no stealthiness or undetectedness to it, and whoever was firing it would know that.

Beryl also said they could not positively identify it, but that it was consistent with a plasma focus.
Beryl looked unhappy when she was saying that.
Was she perhaps upset about lying to the sexy alien?

>>15973403
The author is a bro, you can jump on the forums and ask him questions about the universe and he normally gives you a detailed answer unless its plot related.

Outsider is defiantly one of my favorite 'verse's.

>>15973490

They identified the shot, but not the source. That's stealthy enough.

>>15973478
>(from a long range, and accurately with "clean" effect).
Sixty kilometers.
Just sixty kilometers.
And instead of making a single clean hole just through the beam's area of travel, it split the entire ship in half.
And look at how broad that beam is. Bellarmine is 190 meters long. It's fat and thick and not particularly focused for a focused particle beam from SIXTY KILOMETERS AWAY, especially a beam meant to be fired from like TEN THOUSAND KILOMETERS OR MORE.

Also, looking through the combat sim, Pulse Cannons, the Tempest's other big offensive weapons? Don't work on targets at less than 3 hexes.

>>15973502

That's one of the things that keeps me hopeful about this comic.
The author already has everything (setting, plot, character development) fleshed out, and seems incredibly dedicated to it.
Even if he stops producing the comic I doubt he'd leave us without a concise picture of the stuff that would've come in the comic.

>>15973543

> "Size approximately 300 meters..."

Forgot about that. What in the alien navies is the right size to be that?

>>15973543

Plasma foci would work though, so maybe...it was not Tempest?

Also the short range wave loom would eradicate Bellarmine with those multipliers, being described by the author as an "area of effect weapon" in the story, and even pondering about giving it an area of effect in-game (which means MASSIVE AoE9, the damage done to the ship now feels even less likely to be caused by that weapon.

I'm now just more convinced it was the H's.

>>15973583

Two loroi ships with lasers, blasters and warhead launchers.

More than five Umiak ships with plasma foci in each.

Possible third party, no other ships are revealed.

I'd wager that it was the Historians that led the attack.
Everything about them revealed in the Insider and Word(s) of God paint them as shifty-eyed fuckers that can't be trusted.
Maybe they know some big secret about Humanity & the Loroi.

Shittiest fucking webcomic ever. The slow production amplifies the shittyness, but it's not the cause of the shittyness. Or even because the aliens are unimaginative, or the dialogue is boring... No, it's shitty because:
> NAKED. RESTRAINED. PSYCHIC MINDRAPE.

... IN CHAPTER CHAPTER ONE!

This is not shit you pull in chapter fucking one. This is shit you pull in chapter 7. Maybe chapter 4 if its fast paced.
Why? It begs to be retconned. It NEEDS to be retconned.

You have a alien /machine /plot device capable of creating a reality that's so real you can not tell the difference between it and actual reality. The Matrix and its simulated reality. Blade Runner and the so-human-machines you can't tell them and actual humans apart; that even the Alien series has... How many StarTrek: Next Generation and Voyager episodes revolved around the holodeck and all the wonderful reality warping horrors it can produce? Don't forget the one TNG episode where an alien produced a psychic hologram within a hologram.

It's cliche, it's stale, and it's going to get retconned... And it's going to take forever to learn the truth about wether or not it WOULD get that retcon, because its production speed amplifies the shittyness.

>>15973583

An esoteric couple of destroyers in the Umiak navy, and a "Cutlass" in the Loroi navy.
http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/fleet_umiak.html
http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/fleet_loroi.html
But there's actually a pretty clear picture of the ship on the girl's display, if you just look at the panel there.
It doesn't really look anything like either race's style.

I'm not betting on Psilons, though.
The comic's based on Master of Orion 2.
So I'd bet on Antarans.

>>15973631

Well now, remember that Alex is a blank before picking your tools of the trade.

I don't think Psilons exist in Outsider-verse.
Was there some Word of God that I missed?

>>15973631
... Are you delusional? I'm serious, are there anti-psychotics you forgot to take today? How could you possible think that's the direction the plot was going in? I just feel bad reading this post and imagining someone might exist.

3/10, you at least got a response out of me.

>>15973631
You're getting mad over a webcomic, bro.

Just relax.

Here's an unrelated but extremely cute bunny.

>>15973631

>assume matrix-esque twist
>never even hinted at
>raging at made up shit
0/10

>>15973631

...the mindrape was an establishing element, necessary to demonstrate to the audience that humans are immune to telepathy.
Which is something that the Loroi would notice immediately and which would need to be conveyed to the audience pretty fast.

>>15973631 clarification
And by this entire post, i mean that just by introducing this kind of "aliens are psychic" element into the material, there is NOTHING that we can trust, or take as a fact, or being real, or actually even happening because the guy in charge basically dropped a fucking NUKE on the plot line with that one character capability.

It's like giving a character the power to control fire, and making the main antagonist out of fire.
The dude just fucked his entire story over.

>>15973661

Humans have Creative, and are thus the real Psilon equivalents.
...kinda looks like humans took Creative AND Democracy, and are thus IMPOSSIBROKEN.

But I think people are talking about the Historians as if they were the Psilon, because the Historians still maintained a working knowledge of most of the Soia's technology.
Kinda silly, because the Historians mostly look like Gnolam to me in the fanart.

>>15973724
>fanart.
Uggh, I meant "concept art."

>>15973724

Yeah, like a filthy Gnolam could ever have the scientific edge!

>>15973740

Hey, Jews have done some pretty impressive things over the course of their history.

>>15973724

So... Humanity Fuck Yeah?
I've never played MoO.
Can someone explain this creative/democracy thing to me?

>>15973749

>terrible analogy implying Jews are not creative/cunning
>fullretard.jpg

>>15973752

Creative allows you to research everything ever.
Democracy gives you a 50% bonus to research speed.
Both, individually, are pretty broken.
Together?
That's Mary Sue territory.

>>15973766

Hey, you were the one who implied the Gnolam weren't creative and cunning.
Gnolams, the race that the Anti-Defamation League got in a tiff over.

>>15973752

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HumansAdvanceSwiftly

Humans are said to have reached Space Age much, much faster than the Loroi, who took over 200 years between the first satellites to the first manned space-missions.

>>15973649
>>15973665
>>15973675
>>15973686
>>15973696
My points are valid you fools.
The only thing the viewer knows is what they are given by the story writer through the point of view of the protagonist; we didn't know Neo was in the matrix until his face started melting. We all suspected he was, though, because we have the benifit of being outside the fourth wall and there wouldn't be a plot otherwise.

I mean really, would you just throw someone who got knocked unconcious from your psychic touch into a fucking brig cell immediately after? Or would you do the smart thing and KEEP HIM IN MEDBAY?

>>15973794

I'm a different anon from the one who was talking about the Gnolams, but sure.

>>15972165

OP's pick is just asking for the speech bubbles to be altered.

>>15973805

...or what if the telepathy does not affect Alex but it affects YOU, the reader, and thus it is that the main character can trust his senses while you are slave to illusion?

What if it extends to the forum and the Insider?

Are the Umiak actually WEREWOLVES?

>>15973829

Alex the first human "Ambassador".

>>15973805

They clothed him.
Obviously they spent some time in the medbay, probably taking turns riding his morning wood until that situation was taken care of, before they verified that he was fine.

The psychic powers section of Insider indicates that they think of psychic masking as a psychic power; it says something along the lines of "even exceptionally powerful Loroi have trouble masking themselves for long." Meaning that the more powerful you are, the better your mask can be. So Alex should look like fucking Nyarlathotep to them right now.
You gotta put him in a cell after you figure out that he's psychic-immune, because you don't know what other psychic powers he might have. He could use his superior alien telekinesis to break the restraints.

>>15973829

In fact, just replace "KTUMMM" in the last panel with "BOW-CHICKA-WOW-WOW".

>>15973631
>implying we won't all have died of old age by the time we reach chapter 7

>>15973933
That's actually not too far off. He's planning 7 50-ish page chapters. It has taken him 10 years to write 100 pages, including a prologue.

Personally? If this wasn't a fun time-waster for him, and if I weren't taking into account that maybe he just likes to draw, i'd say just get an artist partner and just stick to writing. It's not like his stuff is unknown. I'm sure he could get his pick of highly talented artists to help him.

But again, he's the one with the ball, he gets to make the rules.

>>15973933
I'll need to remember to pass knowledge of the comic on to my grandchildren.

>>15973838
>nyarlathotep

Yeah, I bet they want to see his screaming darkness...

(Seriously, I don't get it about the Loroi. Even otherwise rational, equal-minded people are forced to make sexist jokes about them)

>>15973964
One word.

Toady.

>>15973983

They're like the Asari, only with making you make sex jokes instead of making you think they're sexy.

>>15974026
That's what SHE said.

...oh god.

>>15973994

Oh fuck, remember when the author stopped updating for several months because he was too busy playing Mass Effect 2?
JUST IMAGINE WHAT WILL HAPPEN WHEN HE FINDS DWARF FORTRESS.

>>15974165

DON'T GIVE ANONS IDEAS

>>15973543
This reminds me of an important factoid:
>parallel course
Someone was shadowing them before blasting them.

>>15974440
Too bad our human guy doesn't know that, but if he had been on the bridge he probably would have died just like everyone else.

>>15973631
> NAKED. RESTRAINED. PSYCHIC MINDRAPE.
You've at least got to admit it helps tell the audience that these are not nice girls.
They'd just met Alex like ten pages ago and they RAPED him.
Which was hot, but also sorta a little wrong I guess.

>>15973585
>with those multipliers,
20xCharge at 0-10 hexes. Assuming one charge, that's 20 damage.

The upper-tier Umiak Plasma Focuses cab do 24 damage at 0 hexes, and the Historian Plasma Focus is supposed to do a whole lot more but isn't filled in. Plasma Focuses do additional Armor Ablating damage, I can't see anything saying that the Wave Loom does that, and human ships are only protected by armor and hull points. So the ship is actually less likely to survive a Historian plasma shot than a single-charge Wave Loom shot, by virtue of both damage points and the respective weapons' effects on their defensive systems.

Area-of-Effect could be a red herring, or it could apply at longer range than 0 hexes (partly because holy suicide Batman, how would you even fire such a beam; also partly because if it fires exotic particles and antiparticles or something they could be contained well enough to not interact to do whatever area of effect thing he has in mind until after the beam's passed the range at which the AoE would harm the ship that fired it, or something). Or it might be that normally the gun would fire multiple beams in a burst at once, simulating AoE without actually doing it.

For anyone who doesn't check up on the Outsider forums.

>>15973543

I get that 154 is the Bellarmine's registry number, but what does the spade stand for?
Are the other scouts labeled with hearts, clubs, and diamonds?

>>15973403

The author just changed the time from "Tuesday or Wednesday" to "Wednesday or Thursday".
Goddammit.

>really like Outsiders concept and everything
>really excited when I first find it
>seems like a billion years later
>oh a single new fucking page

Well. I guess this wont ever be finished by my life time.

>Loroi are probably the bad guys and Humanity is either going to be some faggots allied with the bug people ,or a 3rd party that suddenly becomes godly because of random mcguffin

Im going to be upset if that happens.

>>15974737

Loroi only look like bad guys right now because we've only ever seen them in abusive rapist mode.
There are six chapters to go, they'll probably soften up eventually.

>>15974704
It doesn't matter which two days of the year he updates, anon.
He's still going to take his goddamn time.

So six chapters huh?

What are we looking at, completion date somewhere around 2020? 2023

>>15974691
There were 6 scout ships assigned to the mission, I'm curious as to what happened to them.

Note that scout ship vaporized on first contact is rather common in MoO2.

>>15974832

>10 years to get through Chapter 1.
>Finish 5 more chapters in 10~13 years

Go finish your math classes, anon.

>>15974867
Has it....has it really been...theres no way man.

No fucking way man. You are trolling me right. It hasn't been ten years...right?....RIGHT!?

>>15974867

Parabolic growth curve.

>>15974804
> implying they have a mode other then abusive rape
No, sorry, everyone that isn't human or the two alien diplomats we've seen who seemed to be pretty brofist material are all horrble bastards for their interstellar-spanning crimes against both others and themselves.

>>15974894

This comic began in October 2001.
Do you remember when 911 happened?
Outsider is almost as old as that.

>>15974894
http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/update_history.html
>31 October 2001: New pages: Cover 1 2
First update.

>16 May 2002: New pages: 16, 17
The Prologue is completed!

>06 June 2002
No new page this week; the panels are all drawn, but as I feared, the 3D backgrounds still need a lot more work. In other news, Outsider has been nominated for "Best Science Fiction Comic" in the 2002 Cartoonists' Choice Awards. Thanks!

>1 August 2011: New page: Chapter 2 Cover

Yeah.
It should take about 80 years for it to actually reach the end.
We'll all be long dead by then.

>>15974935
WHO CARES!
Space Elf babes looking pretty good. Besides im sure we can offer them something.
If you know what I mean.
By that I mean
SOLDIERS
THEY NEED TROOPERS! ENLIST TODAY AND DO YOUR PART!

>08 December 2001: New page: 6
>Better late (or so they say) than never. Blame Return to Castle Wolfenstein. Also added a simple guestbook.
The first of many distractions.

>outsider started in 2001
>just got to chapter 2 in 2011

First of all
Fuck this gay earth
Secondly
What the fuck is this candy ass doing, writing a fucking novel? Its a god damn comic on the internet. Chug out some god damn filler at least christ

>>15974961
>blame return to castle wolfenstien


So what you are telling me is. The nazis are behind this?

>>15974972
>03 January 2002: New page: 9
>Well, at 9 pages this is now officially the longest comic I've ever done. Hey, at least I'm excited. :)

>>15974832
It'll be done around the same time as the third Starcraft expansion.

>>15974999
A Half-Life 3 joke would have been more appropriate, at least SC2:2 is trucking along.

No.

>>15975010

HL3 would be done in a flash once Gaben stops hanging out at the employee food storage room.

> chapter release time table talk
No.
The dude should just write a fucking script for each of the comic chapters, release them all at once when they're done, and then go back to taking his sweet ass time drawing the graphics. Seriously, just TELL us the fucking story if you can't SHOW us the fucking story within a reasonable amount of time.

>>15975022
He just can't resist Hot Dog Thursdays...

Have you guys read any of the bonus fluff he's written up?

Turns out there used to be a grand space empire that populated the entirety of the Orion Arm.

Odds are it's >>15974935 's pic related? I'd say high.

>>15975037

I say he should hire an artist to do the drawing and stick to story.
Maybe franchise this thing once it gains some internet following (like posters or something).
That way it wouldn't be a spoilerific drawfag-marathon.

>>15974737
Humanity has the Creative and Democracy traits.

In any MoO game, that means we're a ticking timebomb. There are two things that happen: 1) Either we get rushed/contained and die. 2) We wreck everybody's shit and take over the galaxy. Best two long-term traits in the game.

>>15973752
Creative and democracy are both not +production traits and so therefore suck.

>>15974972
>Chug out some god damn filler at least christ
Have you looked at the Insider section?
It's huge and constantly updating.
He's put more work into every aspect of this comic that isn't actually in the comic than he has into the comic proper.

Also, this is what Outsider was apparently originally going to look like... when he was planning it in 1998.

1998, guys.

>>15975062
>>15975061

Contradictory statements.
/tg/ duel is on!

>>15975053

The speculation I had was thus:
>The Soia were the alpha telepathic race in existence during their golden age.
>They discover proto-Humanity, a primitive race with better telepathic potential / powers than the Soia themselves.
>Soia are divided on the issue of Humanity.
>Some factions advocate exterminating / psychically blinding humans.
>Other factions advocate controlling the potential in humans.
>Secret plots on both sides, with one side working telepathic mute-ness into the human genome (therefore explaining the "old stories" Alex mentioned), while the other creates the Loroi to harness human telepathic power.
>Two sides discover eachother's handiwork, have civil war.
>Downfall of Soia Empire.
>Nascent humans & primitive Loroi isolated, begin individual developments.

>>15975086
Not really. Production typically just out-expands research places then wins. Long game benefits don't really help if you lose at the start.

That said, I'm reasonably sure the comic isn't going to be about one of the races zerg rushing us with better empire start conditions. Everyone is in a better position to beat us, but their victories would be boring from a narrative perspective. Human victory would be interesting from a narrative perspective. Hence, I'm using meta knowledge to assume that, if the author wants to make an interesting story, humans will end up broken-good.

>>15975145
I'm with you except for the "old stories"

I'm pretty sure that the old stories are, well, us, he was talking about shit /tg/ likes. Wizards and shit.

>>15975062

Reseach is King in Moo2.

you don't need production when you have automated factories and robo miners and core waste dumps and android workers and shit.

Lithivore + production and unification is, however, hilariously awesome.

>>15975182

Hm, I somehow doubt that.
Being on a diplomatic mission with aliens who don't understand human culture, it's a possible avenue for a diplomatic misunderstanding.
"Old stories" can be chalked up as myth.
RPG can't.

>>15975177
The umiak do look like a repulsive production race though. An alliance of combat races could forestall them long enough for research to matter.

>>15975208
Production is even kinger. do a hosteat game with 2 and see how it turns out.

>>15975267
But if what the Umiak admiral said wasn't a bluff, that they're now able to bypass Loroi positions undetected then it's too late for research.

Umiak have stealth field/cloaking device tech and are now sending fleets past the picket star systems. It's end game rush so there's no time to develop a counter tech or ship design.

>>15975267
That'll be 20 chapters from now. By that time we'll have already finished our first real intergalactic war.

>>15975249
>"Old stories" can be chalked up as myth.
"Old stories" could also be pulp-era sci-fi.
Lensmen isn't new even today. "Old magazine-published stories" and "old serials from popular periodicals" wouldn't translate.
"Old stories" is a decent way of getting that across.

Maybe Alex is thinking of pulp sci-fi. Maybe he likes Philip K. Dick and H. P. Lovecraft and thus has a passing familiarity with the era.

By Alex's time, the era of pulps, from 1910-ish to 1980-ish would be more than two hundred years in the past.

>>15975249
>implying RPGs aren't based off of myth

Also,
>taking me literally

I was talking about the general cultural background noise of psychics and magic, not specifically Dungeons and Dragons.

For those wondering, there's no doubt that humans will win this war.
The Outsider official forum has a thirteen page thread discussing post-war Terran ships talking incorporating tech gleaned off the Umiak and the Loroi, where the author Arioch has been participating.

I'm pretty sure that he's even mentioned a sequel to the current storyline there.

>>15975337
>sequel

The man better become immortal fast or he's going to have to name a successor.

>>15975317
>>15975318

Ah I see what you guys mean. Just cultural noise people were interested in rather than concrete, fleshed out settings. Got it.

>>15975295
The new Umiak tech doesn't cloak ships, it blocks Loroi farseers from detecting Umaik ships. The only reason that the Loroi have been able to hold the Umiak back is because they can detect where Umiak fleets will strike. The Loroi aren't strong enough to have a fleet defending every border system, so they keep them all at fortresses and send almost everything out to stop Umiak fleets when they're detected. With the new Umiak tech they can hit border systems without warning, destroying the picket force, bombing the planets, then just keep going until the Loroi can get their shit together. It was said by that Umiak commander that they had done just this.

>>15975337
IIIII don't think so. The best Humanity can do is getting the least fucked over by whoever wins.

>>15975466
It's been established that nothing anyone says - and especially anything said by a member of a different species - can be trusted, though. Even if it's the truth, it's not the whole truth. Everyone has an agenda.

>>15975483
I think that's pretty doubtful. The story doesn't appear to be heading in that direction.

>>15975483
>The best Humanity can do is getting the least fucked over by whoever wins.
Given the rapey tone of Human/Loroi first contact, I can't help but take that sentence literally.

You want to know the best part about the whole "humans immune to telepathy" bit? He's straight up plagiarizing Alan Dean Foster's "The Damned Trilogy" -- on first contact with humanity, the female scientist on board the scout ship attempted telepathic contact with the guy they picked up. She was in a coma for a few days afterwards if I remember correctly--it's heavily implied that whatever telepathy relies on rides straight through the "reptilian brain," the feral subconscious that holds all of man's baser instincts. It's described as an all-consuming rage, like the fire used in the comic here.

So, rather than actually write the comic, this guy spends all his time fluffing out the background for it? I'm starting to wonder if excruciating background detail isn't overrated. It's interesting, but then the story never gets told. It's an amazing setting WITH NOTHING GOING ON IN IT.

>>15973320

What is this outsider starship combat sim?

Where can one get it?

>>15975775
I think it's Fireblade that's pure rage, not ..Roger Wilco (don't remember his name, don't care).

And that wasn't humanity's first contact, just the first time one of the telepathic 'enemies' got a hold of one.
You should reread it anyway, HFY done right.

>>15975073

Wait.
Is that a motherfucking K'tinga class cruiser?

>>15975835
It's the incomplete tabletop wargame the author started making some time in 2005 or so, but still hasn't finished today.
http://www.well-of-souls.com/temp/OSD_Sim_v04.zip
It's both the reason /tg/ discusses the comic, and, being incomplete after the better part of a decade, an adequate metaphor for the comic as a whole.

>>15975267

Repulsive means that you can't do alliances or diplomacy or trade with other races.
http://www.well-of-souls.com/outsider/hierarchy_races.html
>The Morat are still nominally a sovereign power, and Morat fleets continue to fight alongside their Umiak allies when defending their section of the frontier.
>Despite possession of an independent military, the Morat are now almost wholly dependent on the Umiak for their survival.

>the Tithric desired to remain neutral in the war, but did not have the political unity to make neutrality work.
> attacks finally unified the Tithric politically and prompted the formation of a stronger central government (and a formal alliance with the Umiak), but it was too late: the Loroi under Admiral Sunfall razed the entire region.

>the Tanuki valued their freedom but recognized that their only way of retaining some self-determination would be to aid the Umiak as vigorously as they could.

Honestly, it sounds almost like the disparate common races of the nearby systems put aside their differences and formed a Last Alliance to overthrow the Dark Lord Sauron and end the dark reign of the Loroi Empire once and for all.

Just read through this comic. Overall, pretty good. Just wondering, though, am I the only one who thinks that pretty much every alien race except the Loroi come off as total bros? Even the fucking bugs seem pretty cool.

>>15976611

Yeah, but you can't go down on them.

>>15976669
BROS BEFORE BLUE SKINNED SPACE HOS!!!

>>15976700

BLUE ASSES BEFORE FUGLY E.T.s!

>>15976611

The bugs are awesome.
I love commander whatshisname.
Rambling, but at times, almost oddly poetic.
>We will derive no gratification from the destruction of [the Respected Enemy]
>Unnecessary blood boiling in empty space nourishing nothing revered by no one
>[Kikitik-27] whose promise is binding offers the opportunity to yet live
Bugs confirmed for Lawful Bro.

>>15976728
THAT DOESN'T EVEN RHYME, YOU'RE DISQUALIFIED!!!

>>15976734

They're paranoid as all hell though.
The reason they invade & conquer everything around them is because they believe everyone's out to get them, so they're taking them out preemptively.
Maybe the "unnecessary blood boiling" could have been avoided if you played nice, Umiak.

>>15976786

Hey, that ain't his own personal doin'.
He didn't start no war.
He's just finishin' one.
LIKE A BOSS.

>>15976778

We were doing rhymes?
Okay then.
BLUE CHICKS BEFORE FUGLY DICKS

>>15976824
YOU WERE ALREADY DISQUALIFIED, MOTHERFUCKER! GUARDS, THROW HIM TO THE RANCOR!

>>15976551
except that the Umiak have conquered Loroi territory
http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/forum_war_history.html

>>15976838

YOUR PET DOES NOT SCARE ME. BRING IT ON.

>>15976786

Maybe.
http://www.well-of-souls.com/outsider/forum_war_history.html
> each side tells a version of the incident that differs in who initiated the combat.
But maybe they were just PREPARED is all.

Hey, guys.
You wanna know what the most recent page he uploaded is?

Page 38.
http://www.well-of-souls.com/gallery/images/?M=D
Check it. Uploaded yesterday.

He's changing the dialogue around. It says "behavioral differences" now, it used to say "biochemical differences."
He also re-uploaded pages 35 through 39 today.
He's apparently fixing his old stuff.
Constantly.
All the time.

That's how you can make a webcomic for 10 years and never get anywhere; trying to fiddle with it until it's perfect. Perfection is a trap.

>>15976933
So he is, in fact, another version of Tarn.

>>15976933

>>15976933

>>15976933
Sigh.

What an utter dickhole. I was holding out hope that, one day, magic would happen and he's work on the comic more religiously. Turns out he IS doing that.. he's just doing it with all the stuff that's already out. Which means the comic will NEVER GO ANYWHERE. A guy can always devote more time to something, but spending all that time retweaking instead of anything else is NOT a behavior that goes away.

Fuck him. Why do assholes like this have to get the decent ideas?

>>15976988
Delicious hostility.

You must have plenty of decent ideas of your own. Do something with them.

>>15976988

He must be tweaking the setting & plot over and over again to get it perfect before making a page (ie. irreplaceable, at least picture-wise).

Whatever the case, the comic (when it comes out) will be of a fucking diamond quality.

>>15977066
No, because the author will die long before it is even close to being done, if he keeps going at his current pace.

>>15976988

What I want you to do right now is try to understand what sort of fandom he's acquired.

>A stunning online comic with plenty of hard science. The map is approximately 35 light years in diameter, and is available in both static and rotatable forms (Java required). I also tried making my own map.
http://www.projectrho.com/outsider.html

ATOMIC ROCKETS HAS AN OUTSIDER FANPAGE.
It wasn't enough to post Outsider references on Atomic Rockets proper, oh no.
Atomic Rockets guy decided to not just fanboy it up for Outsider, but to fanboy it up to such an extreme level that he would attempt to make a STAR CHART for it. A DIFFERENT star chart than the 3D Java star chart that Outsider ALREADY HAS. God knows why. Maybe math is how Atomic Rockets guy has fun.

This is the sort of thing that Outsider's fans do.

He probably received obsessive e-mails saying "now wait a minute..." from biochemically-inclined people nitpicking Beryl's use of the term "biochemical differences" instead of "behavioral differences."

Just try to put yourself in the shoes of a webcomic guy who has to deal with that sort of feedback for his hobby.

It's really no wonder he draws fantasy stuff so often. Nobody goes "wait a second sir according to my calculations..." for wizard battles.

Fuckin' /tg/. I love you guys.
Where else are you going to find a random argument over which set of racial perks are the best in MoO2?

That said: Unification / Prod+ almost always wins out over silly things like Creative. There's a reason fan-patches increased the cost of Unification.
Against bots? Creative does win the day but with Humans, its a different story.

I ran a 3v3 multiplayer game of MoO2 once.
Can't remember what the other side had, but the Grand Alliance I was in consisted of:
Researcher Race (Creative, demo, Sci+1): Researched shit. Gave it to the rest of us.
Production Race (Uni, Prod+2): Built shit.
Warrior Race (Warlord, Ship Attack/defense++/telepathic?): Took control of some of Prod race's ships via boarding actions to supplement own forces and generally kicked the shit out of everything with supporting fleets.

God, I miss MoO2.

>>15977005
No way.

Then I'd just be an asshole. Only assholes get the good ideas. I remain pure and innocent by thinking nothing at all times.

>>15977120
A brilliant solution, sir.

>>15977101
>Just try to put yourself in the shoes of a webcomic guy who has to deal with that sort of feedback for his hobby.

This is every webcomic ever. They ALL get emails about how they are DOING IT WRONG all the time. The only way any of them gets anything done is ignoring it.

>It's really no wonder he draws fantasy stuff so often. Nobody goes "wait a second sir according to my calculations..." for wizard battles.

...It would be too terrible a thing to shatter your naive view of the internet...

>>15977151
>this is every webcomic ever.
>they ALL get e-mails
I'm sure there are plenty of foreveralone comics out there.

I love how you can't tell who fired on the ship. Was it the Elves, or the Bugs? Maybe it was the Historians? Or maybe the story's version of the Antarans.

>>15972183
>>15973048

Notice this
"Outsider is self-rated PG-13"

We ain't ever gonna get a Ma3 or Oglaf out of this.

Goddammitsomuch

>>15977165
I'm trying to think of a clever, but terribly mean, response involving it not mattering since no one is with them to know they exist anyway if they're forever alone, but I can't think of one.

>>15977230

That's the big mystery that has everyone hooked on this webcomic.
I say it's the Historians, the shifty-eyed sneaks.

>>15977232
That's what the fan art is for

>>15977238
It's a simple but brilliant little twist that makes this stand out so strongly. I'd almost say that if the guy could ever just pick up the fucking pace he could easily adapt his story into a screenplay/ series. He's telling a good story so far, if he'd fucking get on with it already.

I love his devotion to detail and methodical process of organizing his data, but this is almost too much. Yet at the same time if he doesn't do some basic level of this his story doesn't flow as well.

>>15977238
Yeah, I'm only so religious about checking up on this comic because I want to know if the speehs elves turn out to be the good or the bads. I wanna know who took that damn shot!

Well, I guess I also like that it's a different take on elves. Not unique, but it's not stock at least. The potentially brewing shitstorm over how humanity compares to them interests me. A whole race of psychic nulls. I bet they are trying their very hardest to not shit their pants in terror right about now.

>>15977108

We all missed MoO 2, until we discovered DosBox.

>>15977238
I object to that blatantly misleading speculation, on the following grounds:
You have no evidence of our eyes being shifty. Beady, perhaps, but not necessarily shifty.

It's a great comic, too bad the creator will probably die of old age before he finishes it.

It also seems to be bizarrely immune to Rule 34, as I can't seem to find Outsider porn anywhere on the Internet.

To those who are wondering if it's the Loroi or the Umiak who are the bad guys, I have your answer.

Both of them.

>>15977407

I can see pretty much everyone in-universe being complete asshats.
The humans' explicit mission wasn't to find out who's less evil, it was to find out who was going to win, and join them to bring an end to this destructive conflict and rule the galaxy as father and son.
The mission is supposed to give exactly zero fucks about right and wrong.

>>15977297
O rly?

>>15977746

Dude, I can play MoO 2 on an Apple computer.
Or on Linux.
I could do this RIGHT NOW.
Saying "I miss MoO 2" while on a computer is like a perfectly healthy guy saying "I miss my left hand." It's RIGHT THERE.

Arioch, my voice is sexier.

>>15977877

It was pretty great of Relic to give a fan a shoutout like that, but it's still not quite as amazing as the shoutout to Hamish Sinclair in Marathon Infinity.

Hats Off To 819 is still the craziest fucking easter egg I've ever heard of in the entire history of video games.

> Play MoO2
> On Apple
> On Linux
Go on....

>>15977855
No no, I mean they made it on DosBox. I didn't know, now I do I'm downloading it now. I have a Mac myself, and had given up on MoO2 until I heard that.

MoO2 runs like shit for me on Dos Box. Is it supposed to be that slow? Is it a cycles issue?

>>15977969

Probably.
Since you're aware that it could be a cycle issue, you've doubtless already tried raising that, but sometimes it also helps to play in fullscreen for some fucking reason or another.

Just get MOO2 from Good Old Games and it should run flawlessly.

>>15977359

I hereby motion to Invoke Rule 35 on Outsider, requesting drawfag assistance

So, do the space elves have males or is this an all female species?

>>15979039
The males are basically fuckslaves who go insane if they go an hour without impregnating a female.

Needless to say, this caused an awkward moment when they assumed the same of humanProtagonist.

>>15979039

There are males. They are smaller and weaker than the females, combining that with their rarity gets them special status where they are more or less sequestered for the most part. They get twitchy if they go for a day or two without sex though that's as much cultural training as biological. One of them will be joining the crew later.

This reminds me of the male:female numbers imbalance being discussed in the Mithra thread.

>>15980347

O rly?

More info given via the creator talking on the forums or is it in an article somewhere?

>>15980454

His name is A Welcome Rain and he's a Farseer who's going to replace the Farseer onboard Tempest.

"Yes, a male Loroi character (Lenara Dozal, "The Welcome Rain") along the lines you mentioned is planned. He is the character depicted in this concept."

>>15980454

http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/insider.html

This is what the creator does when he should be drawing the comic.

>>15980508
>a male Loroi character
>The Welcome Rain

I see what he did there.

>>15980508

>A Welcome Rain
>A

Ran off of memory and didn't even check the name when I grabbed a quote.

Loroi male are all 4th tall midgets (albeit with large members) who have no hair outside what's on the head, which is kept in the form of a mullet.

>>15980508
>>15980524
>>15980529
I bet that Beryl is going to be the one who 'provides accommodation' to the male Loroi, leading Roger Wilco to have some 'Why am I so jealous' moments.

>>15980917
But Beryl said that Alexander had a comparatively larger member than Loroi males. Either human males have bigger dicks on average (being hearty, earth men and all) or Alex just has a freakishly large dick.

>>15981479

Pretty sure that she was referring to Alex's body (as in limbs and torso) being freakishly big compared to the Loroi males.
It was word of author that said the Loroi males have large penises.

>>15981678
>It was word of author that said the Loroi males have large penises.

Why does the author even comment on that?

Imagine this comic, but with Alexander Jardin with the personality of Londo Mollari.

>Captain Stillstorm, we humans are violent, passionate, fecund, and greedy. All you need do is provide us with weapons, blueprints, and several gaian worlds, and I can guarantee victory within ten years.

>One last thing, do not think to betray us. We will know, you have attempted to lie or conceal the truth from me several times, and have done a terrible job of it. We would see any act of duplicity coming a mile away. If you do, you will find out our capacity for vindictiveness. We are stalwart allies and sensual lovers, but betray us and we will be your most vicious enemies. To the Loroi-Terran Alliance, may the stars be there to conquer.

>Now where were we my dear, miss... Beryl was it? Once negotiations have been finalized, you will have to do me the honor of allowing me to escort you to one of my people's concerts. Dvorak's New World Symphony, perhaps? As I was about to explain on the elevator, though we can go for extended periods without "mating" as you put it, we are a vital and fecund people nonetheless.

>>15981702
People ask. You know, like this thread.

>>15981702
To cut short an ongoing discussion that would otherwise have continued for twenty pages, knowing his forumgoing fans.

Anyway if I remember this right, by Loroi standards his endowments are disproportionally small, being just as big as one of their own males', but on a larger body frame.

>>15981758
>>15981760

Well, I once read on 4chan how that the guy doing this anime where the guy becomes a girl if he comes into contact with hot(?) water answered the following question:
"Can he get pregnant while he is a girl?"
His answer:
"I don't think about it and neither should you."

If some Japanese can come to that conclusion, I think the comic's auther should as well.

>>15981738
You have my yes.

>>15981793
It was Ranma 1/2 and the creator is a woman.

>>15981793
Apparently not his style. All the backstory, essays on alien biology and culture, sci-fi tech, and all, he seems to be the kind who'd want to fill in any gap. In his place, I'd go "do you really need to know dick sizes for this race of fictional blue space elves" too but if instead he wants to put in "ehhh let's say human sized" I respect that.

It's only logical.
The female Loroi are all human-sized, so the males have to have human-sized penises as well if they're to reproduce (non-compatible genitalia would lead to... complications).

>>15981738
Fuck yeah Dvorak!

This little guy gets all the poon.

>>15982059
I am not even jelly if it means that he has to wear that haircut.

>>15982090
"Okay, here's the deal. You get all the blue space elf poon you want, but your hair has to look like this."

"Ehhh....."

Seriously?

>>15982101
I'd be worried about it too if my opponent was Londo Motherfucking Mollari

>found out about comic from this thread
>start reading it
>FUCKING CUTE SPESS ELVES

although to it's credit I'm liking what I'm reading so far.

>>15982059
When Beryl mentioned Loroi male's limbs were shorter, I imagined that Loroi Males look like dwarves with a beard that extends into a lion-like mane.

The idea came from the thread that suggested that Elves and Dwarves were one species with the females, Elves, and the males, Dwarves. And the description of the males behavior: one male per lots of women, women primarily due the warmaking/hunting, but men are extremely territorial sounded like lions.

>>15981275
And I bet the Loroi Male at one point will strike her in front of Roger Wilco, and a fist fight will break out between the two. Followed by legal shenanigans, followed by Beryl exploiting the one (duel/territorial battle for wives) loophole to keep Roger from getting spaced, but as a side effect Beryl and Roger will be considered married because he won her fair and square.

>>15982374

"Lets have lots of blue kids."

>>15982374
Yeah...that's not gonna work.

Reproduction for the Loroi is strictly regulated. Loroi females really only get access to a male in order to procreate. After which the baby becomes a ward of the state and neither the father nor the mother take care of it.

Monogamous long-term relationships are a human thing.

>>15982507
>Last Panel Expression
>Wait, what?

LOL.

>>15982507

Beryl's face is fucking hilarious.
It's says "you disgusting pig" because of the elevator incident just before.

oh I bet the space elves were responsible for blowing up the human ship. Goddamn elves, ruining everything.

Also that was an unbelievably good comic.

>>15982584

Now brace yourself to become a master of being patient.
This comic is known for its glacial update rate.

>>15982604
.. yeah I just read most of this thread and realized that.

oh well, the first half of pleasure is anticipation right?

>>15982630

Indeed it is. And we're about to get a new page today, if the author keeps his word.
In the meanwhile you should check out the Insider portio of the website.
It's filled with background shit.

>>15982507
Even better.

The duel is an ancient custom, back when a stable pool of males was a necessity for any self sufficient tribe, but each tribe could only really sustain a certain number of non-working males. Males needed a way to escape conditions that they considered sub-par, whether their home tribe mistreated them or they felt they weren't given their due.

It's not a fight for ownership of Beryl, it's a fight for the right to be her concubine, part of her harem.

>>15982566

Don't you mean Fireblade? The' the red-haired one in the last panel. Beryl is the white-haired one, and her expression is more "distracted with another communication while simultaneously relieved at not having to broach a potentially offensive and charged topic with an alien diplomat."

But Fireblade? Yeah, she's all "don't you fucking try anything you pink skinned freak."

Someone archive this thread and link it to the author in the forum so he can get some incentive to pick up the pace.

I'm too lazy to do it myself.

>>15982802
I feel Fireblade is going to become a more personable character as the comic goes on.

Her, Alex, Beyrl, and Tempo are all going to be the main cast. Fireblade can't just chill in the background menacingly for 7 chapters. She's already shown signs of lightening up.

>>15982727
But there are less males, and they are incredibly territorial. Wouldn't it be more likely for the male to have a harem of females, than the other way around. I suspect the traditional family structure of the greyish-blue space elves would be similar to a lion's pride.

>>15982868

She's a tsundere, right and proper.

>>15982978
Nah, post-stone-age Loroi were likely in much bigger groups than the 5-20 females of a lion pride, if only for genetic diversity. Self reliant tribe want to make sure that if it has to, it doesn't have to negotiate with the tribe next door - with whom the may or may not be at war with - for access to it's male if their one and only male kicks the bucket unexpectedly.

>>15982986

Fun fact, Fireblade hasn't had a child. Fate conspired to keep her from having enough time. Given that sex is only for fertilization in Loroi society, you can infer that she's either infertile or potentially dangerous to have close contact with. Not defective enough to cull, and a highly effective warrior, but too dangerous when she's in an emotionally charged state to risk a male with.

Ultimate tsundere.

>>15983037

And since males are smaller and weaker, the females can keep them separated if they try something stupid like starting a (tom)catfight.

>>15983084

She apparently lived her childhood on a Umiak-occupied world that was being put to the sword for not capitulating.
That's some screwed up childhood alright, enough to make a tsundere.

>>15983084
>>15983128
Dammit Fireblade, stop being my waifu. I'm not even supposed to have one of those.

>>15983122
Do the males have psychic ability on par with females or are they weaker/stronger?

>>15983164

Where did that picture come from?
Fireblade looks good.

>>15983181

About the same, though they usually don't have the opportunity or need to train stuff like combat telekinesis. The next farseer of Tempest is male, that particular talent is so rare that even males with it get put into the front lines.

I see a worrying lack of female space drow beards.

>>15981738
Read it in his voice.

>>15981738
OH GOD YES

And fuck me, I also read that in his voice.

>>15983215
Just made it; thanks.

>>15983256
Of course, I knew I forgot something.

>>15981738
Humans handle betrayal in style.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etYHWZyRSMU

>>15983403
Can we have one of beryl being adorable?

>>15983719

bump for naked Beryl pic.

>>15983896
Thirding.

>>15983164
>>15983403

Drawfag anon, are you still here?

>>15983719
Wait was that adorable you wanted or creepy as fuck because I keep getting those mixed up.

>>15983896
Hell I don't care if she's naked. Just her being d'awww is good enough for me. Her just being so happy all the time is so cute. Also, she's the only Loroi we've seen laughing, if I remember correctly. (And I mean really laughing, not 'launching the missiles' laughing.)

>Captcha
>need everyou

Well thank you captcha, that's a nice thing for you to say.

>>15984099

Nice work!

>>15984099
>>15984099
That is both adorable and creepy.

And I love you for it anon.

>>15984104
oh u

"Sorry for the delay -- it's been a rough few weeks. I'll try to get the new page finished and posted ASAP."

New page gonna come out soon.

>>15985416
Shall we use the valve time table?

>>15985562

Update schedule for the last three days:
>"Tuesday or Wednesday"
>"Wednesday or Thursday"
>ASAP

IT'S COMING

>>15982807

"Good news, your fanbase just multiplied!
Bad news, it's 4chan."

I can't remember, do the Loroi have an Emperor or and Empress

>>15985760

Emperor.
Loroi politics are dominated by the female due to males fucking all the time, so the title (or English translation thereof) makes no gender distinction.

>>15985692
>Well, I guess it can't be all bad. Who is their favorite character so far?
Londo Mollari
>but, wha...

>>15985785
How the hell do these interstellar civilizations manage to function with such outdated forms of government.

Nowhere near enough facial hair in this thread.

>>15985906
Writer fiat, all day, every day. There are no other possible answers.

>>15985906

The Loroi don't practice nepotism.
That might be a factor.

>>15985906
Well, they did have remnants of the former interstellar civilization's technology to work with.

Is there an archive of the Bearded-Outsider anywhere?
I could've sworn there was a thread about making it on /tg/ a while back.

>>15986003

Does anyone have beard-Outsider?

Isnt the main dude supposed to shack up with Fireblade?

>>15986221

HERESY

ALEX'S TRUE LOVE IS ALPHA BERYL

>>15985978
Yep, the elfs chose artifact homeworld + telepathic.
The humans, on the other hand, chose democracy + creative but their player's little brother did nothing but hit the next turn button for the first 150 rounds.

>>15986249
>>15986221

They have an 8-to-1 sex ratio. Jardin is going to be passed around like a space doobie.

The Loroi probably instinctively form 'cabals' of females for the purpose of monopolizing a male among them.

>>15986190

Outsider beard guy hasn't showed up since March.
The last thread he posted his beards in:

http://archive.easymodo.net/tg/thread/14095932

I'm sure that you could probably find him on the official Outsider forum. No way someone that dedicated/deranged wouldn't have signed up there.

>>15986221
What?

>>15986493

She's a hot redhead with a lustrous beard and a mysterious past. >>15983403
Of course he's going to end up with her.

>>15986221
>>15986249
>>15986320
>>15986493
>>15986507

Alex & Beryl love ending.

..Speaking of beard..

What happens when he starts getting stubble? Will the spehss elves flip out? Or is he a mysteriously hairless pretty protagonist?

>>15986634

http://www.well-of-souls.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=240

"
I thought about this a while ago, and decided that the details of personal hygene and sanitation would not be brought up as issues (as much as possible) in the comic. We can infer that these things are being taken care of off-camera. Similarly, Alex won't be growing a beard. We can guess that he had some sort of depilatory treatement, or that he has requested and got access to some sort of Loroi apparatus (or maybe he's just not "manly" enough to grow a beard yet).

The deterioration of Alex's uniform over the course of the adventures to come is, however, something I do plan to address in the comic."

The Loroi combat knives can double as shaving razors, apparently.

>>15986634

According to the author, Alex isn't manly enough to have a beard.
Probably a good thing, we want our ambassador to look like a Loroi male, not a proud Loroi warrior.
We can confuse their sexuality with our male war-beards later, after we get a nice fat treaty.

>>15986650
>>15986660
>not manly enough to grow a beard

Well, there goes my fan fiction. I so wanted to write about all the Loroi being enraptured by the manliness none of their males could given them. I'll never be able to write about the lusty blue space elf harem...

>>15986702
Sure you can, just set it after contact and with some main character who isn't Alex.

>>15986702

Male Loroi do not have body hair.
Alex could enrapture female Loroi through other...pits and bush kind of hairs.

>>15986776
>Male Loroi do not have body hair.
So they're like tiny Norwegians?

>>15986803

With jumped up libidos yes.

>>15986767
I was joking about writing anything.

If I write fap fiction, it's going to be about gender change. I don't mean your pussy hit with futa or guys turning into girls. It's going to be a petite girl turning into a hairy chested man though absurd circumstances. Then fucking everything that moves. Mostly other men. In fact, I'm going to go write it right now. Then come back here and post it. Then you are going to fap to it. I don't care if you don't want to. You WILL fap to it.

>>15986917
I like the cut of your jib.

>>15986917
>>15986917

>>15986984
After that, I'm going to write about bearded space elves. You'll cry as Fireblade rubs her rugged red elf woman beard against Alex's delicate human skin and teaches him the TRUE meaning of being a male in Loroi society.

You'll cry.

Then you'll fap.

>>15987035

<3

>>15987035

Brings a tear to my eye. A masterpiece in the making.

>>15987075
>>15987090
...Oh merciful Lord.

What have I gotten myself into?

>>15986702
>>15986917
>>15987035

WRITE IT NAO

>>15987136

One of /tg/'s Outsider threads.
...they pretty much all end up this way, somehow.

Hey guys, did you know that the first shots we ever saw Tempest fire in battle weren't even in Outsider, but rather, in Kris Straub's "Starslip Crisis" comic, in an extra called "The Alterverse War"?

>>15987197
..Fine.

If I can manage not to laugh myself to death in the process.

>>15986917
>>15987253

No matter how hard she tried, Fireblade couldn't hide it. She could conceal her precise intent, but every excuse she made was tainted by an undeniable tension. Not that it mattered. By the time the other Loroi on the ship realized was she was up to, it would be too late.

One Alex Jardin wouldn't even acknowledge the fiery Loroi's entrance into his room. He was too accustomed to them buzzing in and out. All eager, all terrified, of this new being. Fireblade was not one to let her fear rule her existence. If she could not rid herself of it.. she would have to conquer it. The distinct sound of the door sliding open went unheeded. Alex continued to categorize the quality of the food he'd been given by his caretakers.

"Is there something wrong with the food you have been provided?"

>>15981961

Female gorillas are not much smaller than humans but male gorillas have dicks less than 2 inches long. The "females are the same size so the junk has to be the same size" argument doesn't hold water. That being said the WHY isn't important, Arioch says they're the same size so they're the same size.

>>15982978

Loroi males are not territorial.

>>15983181

Roughly the same

>>15986337

If he's on the forums he hasn't made his presence known.

>>15987461
I thought you left /tg/.
In fact, I know for a fact that you told me that you weren't posting or reading /tg/ anymore in the LoL chat.

>>15987035

>steedAdd Now
goddamnit captcha

>>15987461
See:
>>15973319

>Alex about to have the most amazing night of his life.

>>15987461
Alex didn't need telepathy to figure out she was annoyed. Fireblade's deep voice was more gruff than usual, and a certain edge tainted it. Alex turned slightly to speak to the intruder, "No. I'm just not used to this.. fruit. This one sort of looks like a-" He wasn't allowed to finish his sentence thanks to the boot that collided with his back, but he immediately started to scramble to his feet, "What the hell!"

Yet he never made it off the floor. Fireblade dove on top of him, holding one hand to Alex's throat and pinning him down on his back. A knee, similarly, forced between his legs in an obvious threat to his manhood. Not that he could resist. He could feel her her superior, highly trained, strength in her grip and her arm. Any Loroi warrior took her training seriously. Fireblade much more so.

"Quiet! I would prefer to use as few words as possible in dealing with you. We cannot speak mind to mind, but perhaps action will speak loudly enough."

Fireblade then lightened her grip to allow Alex to breath. Which he only treated as an opportunity.

"Nng. Sorry, I'm not into bearded ladies. I saw one once at a carnival when I was six.. but it didn't do anything for me."

Fireblade gripped Alex's jaw tightly, causing a wince of pain from him, "Cute," She didn't know what a carnival was, but she knew an insult when she heard one "I'm already aware of the status of your native women. I find it hard to believe your people could be satisfied." She used her free hand to guide one of Alex's up to her face. Fireblade alone decided to let her beard grow in fully. Other Loroi were content to leave a token attempt, but she was a proud warrior. She forced his fingers to run through the hair covering her jaw. It wasn't as stiff or scratchy as he expected. Somewhat soft and luxurious.. as well taken care of as any other part of Fireblade's body.

"I'll show you what a real woman is."

"G.. get off me!" Alex barely managed to say through his teeth.

>>15987508
I came back.

I came back to write about bearded space elves.

>>15987701

>>15987701

Oh my God.

>>15987461
>>15987701

>Beard woman sex.
This thread is gold.

>>15987701

Continue.

>>15987701
Alex feebly tried to throw off his assailant. Fireblade would grant his request, but gripped the front of his shirt and took the entire front of it up with her as she stood. The ripping sound resounded clearly through the room, and the chunk of cloth was tossed carelessly to the side. Alex's hairless pecks and firm stomach sent a thrill through Fireblade she had not felt since first seeing him as a prisoner. Once she had never felt before then.

Alex didn't question her dazed expression. He took the moment to sweep the red headed Loroi's legs out from under her and leap on top to restrain her. Yet he didn't even lay a hand on her before he was thrust off by a force he could only feel as it crashed against his body. In the next moment, Fireblade was on top of him again. Her long trail of read hair spilled over her shoulder and pooled beside Alex's head on the floor.

She didn't look happy.

"You'll learn to respect me. You're already mine, Alex Jardin. It would be easier if you just accepted this." Before he could question her, she gripped the back of his head and pulled him up into a kiss. The iron grip of the Loroi ensured he would feel her fiery beard caressing him ever so gently as their lips touched. It tickled strangely. When she released him, he dropped to the floor breathlessly. Too confused to say anything even if he could. In truth she didn't want him to accept it. She wanted him to struggle. Without that strength, it was meaningless. Loroi males were so delicate.. so easy to break. Worthless.

"Crazy bitch!"

A desperate fist very nearly found her head. Once again she had gotten too lost in thought. If Alex hadn't shouted, he might have hit her.

Fuuka's back! And on a day-old, 300 post thread about Outsider. /tg/ is finally recovering!

I think this will soon be applicable to this thread.

>>15987461
>>15987461
>>15987701

>>15987944

>>15987944
"Good!" A low tone purred into Alex's ear. The hair of her chin barely tickled his lobe as Fireblade whispered. "Struggle," she flipped him over and drew one arm around his neck and pulled him back to sit on her lap, "So me your strength. -Then- submit it to me. I'll make you give in! I'll make you be mine."

A fire was in her veins unlike any she had ever felt before. Her senses forced into a keenness not brought on by any battle she had been in before.

Fireblade forced herself to focus and took advantage of Alex's confusion to remove the tattered remains of his shirt. Her hand next roamed down and slipped into the waistline of his jumpsuit, and a pleased, if not sadistic, grin formed at what she found, "I thought you didn't like your women with beards, Alex Jardin."

Alex plied his full strength against her in an instant, nearly wrenching himself from her grasp. There was a moment of struggle where Fireblade desperately tried to keep her hold on him. She regained control by wrapping both legs around his waist and clamping down. Alex could hardly believe such slender legs were so strong! He could hardly breath again.

"F.. fuck you."

"Not yet. You have to earn the right to see my other beard."

Her tone didn't waver, but Alex's attention was drawn to the feeling of heat pressed on his lower back. The heat radiating from between her legs betrayed her as anything but calm. The more he thought about it, the more he swore he could feel the quiver of anticipation in the Loroi's toned body.

"Ah, there it is again." She taunted.

"Dammit! Go down! You're not supposed to like this!"

"Is it customary for human males to talk to their genitalia?"

>>15988116 "Not yet. You have to earn the right to see my other beard."

>>15988116
>>15988116
>>15988116

>>15988116
>"Is it customary for human males to talk to their genitalia?"
Oh God I can't stop laughing.
Yes, Fireblade. Yes it is.

>>15988144

It's fireBEARD, Anon.

>>15988116
I didn't think you'd actually write bearded Loroi on Alex Jardin porn. Is this really necessary?

>>15988131

>Other beard
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTZ1znQAO8o

>beard sex

Now I remember why I still come to this terrible place.

>>15988157 Is this really necessary?

You need to remember that /tg/ is PACKED full of homosexuals who love nothing but short hairy guys and\or very large bald men.

>>15988157 Is this really necessary?

>>15988165
We're so gay, the straight people like traps.

We don't even know what to call people who like women...

I love you, /tg/. You complete me.

>>15988157

YOU CALLED THE THUNDER.
NOW REAP THE WHIRLWIND!

There was a curious tug at his ear, and the now familiar tickle of red beard on the back of his neck, before he could think of a proper reply. Fireblade's teeth gently nibbled on the edge of Alex's curiously rounded ears. It was a minor difference between them, but it endlessly fascinated her. She continued this activity till she felt Alex relax, and his reward was the withdraw of her legs to allow him to breath. In his weakened state, he wasn't able to make the escape he would like.

Hands slowly roamed through Alex's hair before Fireblade slipped out from under him. Before long, she stood towering above him, and all his addled mind allowed him to do was stare back up at her in wait for her next move. This came when a foot lifted and pressed her boot against his crotch. A momentary wince followed, but Alex found himself able to relax as the boot slowly rubbed against his hardened manhood. The reddening of his face must have betrayed him because she smirked and started to remove her uniform.

The miscellaneous bits of armor went first. Just enough removed so she could pull open the front of her suit. Her slender fingers took pleasure in slowly peeling it open to first reveal once smooth blue shoulder. Again Alex marveled at how she could be so strong yet show so little sign of it, but his eyes were soon torn away to her chest. The suit slowly revealing perfectly perky tits, but she stopped just as the edge of her nipple came into view.

"Are you enjoying yourself, Alex Jardin?"

>>15988157
My bluff was called.

Internet law forced my hand to this. We have no one to blame but ourselves.

>>15988265

Five bucks says her nipples are hairy.

;~; Is normal Outsider porn too much to ask for?

>>15988294
I will literally die.

Die laughing.

>>15988299
>normal
>sex with cartoon 12-14-year-old blue telepathic/telekinetic gynarchial /ss/ enthusiasts
That'd be no.

Nipplebeards.

He only continued to stare up at her slack jawed and dumbstruck as she peeled herself the rest of the way out of her uniform. Smooth blue skin greeted his eager eyes till the sudden appearance of the fire covering of her crotch. Once freed she got to her knees in front of him and forced her way between his legs. She pulled open his own uniform until granted access to his hardened manhood. Fireblade then pushed herself forward.. letting the heat of her arousal press firm against Alex's cock. He tensed at the sensation of her touch, and his cock jumped dangerously against her.

Fireblade merely smirked again and pulled away. Soon back to her feet and slipping back into her uniform.

"B.. but.. I.. wha," He couldn't seem to do much besides babble despite every effort.. so he only stared at her cruelly concealed body.

"You," She grabbed his hand and once again forced the fingers through her thick beard, "I will be waiting in my quarters. You will beg me."

Alex brought on a slow nod

"Good," Fireblade moved to the door of his room, which responded with a distinct swish of it opening, "It is there I will teach you what I expect of my males."

>>15988326
>>15988309
>>15988294
I'm doing something even MORE evil.

I'm cutting the story off there.

I'll write another installment sometime, maybe. I'll think of some good tortures to put Alex through for his training to be a proper waifu for Fireblade.

I giggled like a little bitch.

This is the funniest thing.

>>15988375
>>15988375

Aaaaand... archived.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15972165/

It is a basic presumption that this is getting emailed to Arioch. Because how could it not?

>>15988402
..I don't know.

>>15972183
>>15988349

This thread made a complete loop.
I love /tg/.

>>15988455

I'm hyped for the sequel. Alex gonna get turned into a sex slave.

>>15988448

>implying he hasn't already read the thread

>>15988469
Yeah, I think I've outdone myself this time.

Leo and Lilly? Baby stuff. A dwarf fortress dwarf gurran laggan ripoff mining the heavens for dragons? Piffle. Little Girl 40k? Complete with Caiphas and Jurgen having a tea party? PAH.

...I don't think I can forgive myself for this one.

>>15988518

Since I might miss the sequel thread, can you archive the thread at sup/tg/ after you write it?

>>15988571

Seconded

>>15988598
>>15988571
..If the internet hitmen don't take me out for this transgression, sure.

>>15988448
>check the archive
>see the thread there
"A Discussion of the unfinished Outsider webcomic and the unfinished Outsider Wargame"
>no clue or indication as to the horror that lurks inside
I love you, archive-maker.
You are a prince of cruelty.

>>15988732

I aim to please.