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    412 KB Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)18:59 No.15808361  
    Evening /tg/

    I'm going to be running a game set in the Fallout universe, I've got the mechanics and such worked out. What I need help with, is some ideas.

    Here are the basics of the setting:
    -Same time period as FO3
    -It is set in and around London, England
    -For this I presumed that Vault Tec were active in the UK and built at least some vaults.
    -My PCs will most likely be newly emerging vault dwellers, but I suppose they could start as wastelanders in a town.

    I need help defining some factions. I've though of a couple so far:
    -Hooligan Raiders - Based out of the ruins of various football stadiums in London, hooligan raiders adorn themselves in the colours of their chosen football team. They have an almost religious devotion to their team. Conflicts between two different teams are particularly bloody, but they don't mind fighting wastelanders either.

    - East London Trading Company - Somewhat organised militaristic faction who dress themselves in redcoats. Heavy on propaganda and taxation, they do keep their citizens fairly well protected.


    So /tg/, I'd like some more ideas for factions for post-apocalyptic London. Any other ideas would be appreciated as well. Thanks!
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:03 No.15808411
    I suppose guns are super rare, unless England in the Fallout Universe is largely unlike England in real life today.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:04 No.15808423
    Now I don't know all that much about England (Amerifag here), but I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the UK would probably have a special bunker for the royal family and other high ranking nobility. As such, why not have a Royal Guards faction? As the only legitimate ruler left, they would probably focus on restoring order to the Islands under the new Monarchy.

    Ooh, and make them the Fifth Monarchy Men.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:06 No.15808451
    Well you could also include raiders from the French side of the chunnel. Yes I wrote that right, chunnel. you could also include some sort of variants of the gangs that are there now. The Yardies that have major connections with drug running (jet, psycho, buffout, mentats), Irish gun runners and the like.

    consider major landmarks that might still be standing (big ben, the Buckingham Palace, parliment) and make them power centers.

    Oh and ghouls, always ghouls. that speak in the most ghastly cockney accents.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:07 No.15808463
    >vault
    There are none. Period. Vault Tec was an American company run by the American government for American experimentation and American preservation of the American political core.
    Your British people are far worse off than America.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:08 No.15808481
    I like the idea about the hooligan raiders- thats pretty good actually.

    Personally I wouldn't have vault tec vaults in the UK. I'd have them built by a different company but along similar lines. Perhaps drop the whole 'we're going to murder our customers with sadistic glee' themes vault tec were using- you can get monsters and things hiding in abandoned shelters or where a facility broke (for example a nuclear blast redirecting a river over a section of a vault and radioactive water gradually seeped in.
    Possibly have the aspect more focused on the human elements that are fighting each other rather than hordes of mutants. Not sure if the UK had the FEV.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:09 No.15808497
    >>15808481
    Pretty sure it spread into the atmosphere at some point.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:11 No.15808523
    >>15808481
    or alternitively loads of people evacuated north to the Scottish/welsh highlands before the nuclear exchange began and stayed there until the radiation in england had fallen to more tolerable levels, where people started moving back towards the old cities.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:11 No.15808528
    >>15808411
    I was thinking about getting around this somewhat by making England a faction well at war as the bombs fell. Lots of old military hardware lying around.

    >>15808423
    I really like that idea. I imagine they would be quite a benevolent force. I'm not sure who would be the monarch in 2100 though.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:11 No.15808529
    >>15808463

    That's not to say there couldn't have been a British/European Union alternative company that worked to manufacture bunkers for a profit.

    An expansion on the underground subway/netro system could also work such as in Metro 2030, I couldn't really give more (Canada/Colonyfag here) but its an open playing field, just don't go too crazy.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:13 No.15808547
    >>15808463
    No reason he can't have a similar British based company.
    >> Braith117 08/03/11(Wed)19:13 No.15808558
    I see lots of zombies in your ghouls in this setting, because that's about all that's alive outside of North America as far as the Enclave knew.

    That aside, assuming you can still find some prime normals out there, they likely survived out in Wales or Scotland(not much to nuke and there are bound to be tribals galore out there in that case.

    I see Fallout 2 does England as your setting now, minus the American factions and all their toys.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:14 No.15808564
    >>15808463
    >>15808481

    Yeah, I think I will change them to a different company name. Time to brainstorm some names I guess. I was thinking something that makes it sound rather small time, like _____ and sons Nuclear Bunkers ltd.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:14 No.15808569
    What's good about being in Britain is that you can finally explain where Tenpenny came from.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:14 No.15808571
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    Britain wouldn't have vaults, but it WOULD have bunkers and shelters built by the government, as existed during WW2. They'd probably do a much better job of preserving British government, perhaps leading to a more totalitarian state, one with cameras everywhere and Securitrons on every corner.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:14 No.15808572
    >>15808411
    >Implying there aren't gunstores in nearly every major city, and in a lot of large towns
    >Implying there wouldn't be military armaments aswell
    >Guns owned by hunters, target shooters, etc
    >Guns imported from overseas following the nuclear war
    >All the illegal weaponry on the streets aswell
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:16 No.15808600
    it always disapointed me that when they aquired the fallout i.p. they never dares to venture off and make it their own thin, for example take the story to europe and england for example.

    Fallout London would be bloody awesome.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:16 No.15808603
    I think Scottish/Welsh tribals would be quite good. I'm thinking they'd be extremely xenophobic towards and English who survived in vaults.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:18 No.15808618
    >>15808571
    Now that you say that, perhaps I could change the backstory up and make England get all 1984 in the buildup to the Great War. Maybe the citizens see the destruction as a chance to break free of the totalitarian regime?
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:20 No.15808641
    >>15808600
    No it wouldn't, that doesn't fit the theme of fallout. Fallout has always been about a retro-y post war America. Plus London got its shit kicked in. HARD. They've been DESTROYED.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:20 No.15808650
    You could read up on Burlington, it's basically a real life Vault built in the cold war to house the 4000 civil personnel. This site even has maps and everything (http://www.burlingtonbunker.co.uk/), so you could probably use it in your game.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:21 No.15808666
    Also, I just found this on Fallout Wiki: http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout:_Resource_Wars

    So apparently SOME consideration has been given to a game not following North America
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:22 No.15808668
    The Tenpenny Family Estate: Located in the rural countryside of southern England, the Tenpennies managed to avoid most of the bomb blast, being in a rural area, however the end of civilisation certainly affected them. Due to their vast lands, people from nearby farms fled to them. Since then, the Tenpennies have become almost tribal. The Tenpennies label themselves "Lord" and "Lady", while the workers who live in the camps outside their manor in their fields are titled as Serfs and locked into Tenpenny service.
    The men who enforce law on the estate are generally titled as Knights, taking the title of "Ser" before their name. They are usually armed with old, ornate hunting rifles and shotguns, although do not don armour as is their namesake. They often hold large cottages and have a few Serfs under their command on the Tenpenny lands.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:23 No.15808681
    >>15808618
    Possibly, but with the pretty poor selection of weaponry availible to the general population an uprising probably wouldn't work.
    sure there are loads of guns on the streets but compared to the US the density and quality of weapons, not to mention ammo is quite low- especially given I assume most of the people and their weapons would be vapourised in the inner cities when they get nuked.

    You'd probably get a few crude firearms witrh the scavengers and whatever's left of the government would probably have the only stuff worth a damn.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:25 No.15808719
    >>15808641
    Then you haven't been listening to teh old developers opinions about it.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:26 No.15808740
    >>15808572
    >imported
    >following the nuclear war
    "Yeah, ask that mutant gang if they'll traOH GOD THEY'RE RAPING US."
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:26 No.15808752
    If you really want to work within the Fallout vibe, work in some references to period British sci-fi. People like John Wyndham (The Day of the Triffids, The Kraken Wakes and The Chrysalids) or Samuel Youd (The Death of Grass, The World in Winter). Classics like After London, The Sleeper Awakens or The Machine Stops might be sources to draw upon, too.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:27 No.15808755
    >-Hooligan Raiders - Based out of the ruins of various football stadiums in London, hooligan raiders adorn themselves in the colours of their chosen football team. They have an almost religious devotion to their team. Conflicts between two different teams are particularly bloody, but they don't mind fighting wastelanders either.

    Make it so that nobody actually remembers what football is.

    >>15808571
    >>15808618
    Reclusive mole people living in a vast system of bunkers in the deepest parts of a now even bigger subway system. Subways are the new underdark. The mole people are extremely totalitarian and there are cameras in every hall. Recently their overtly bureaucratic government has finally accepted the decision of expanding to the surface and start topsider colonies. And everything is banned down there.

    Also Triffids and Welsh tribals wearing sheepskins using longbows.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:27 No.15808758
    >>15808668
    They go hunting for game in the forest with tamed, mutated foxhounds, riding on horseback, which is where they get most of their foods, as predators lurk in the surrounding farms to eat the crops and make returning there unsafe.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:27 No.15808764
    It would have been torn to shit even beforehand. They fought a massive war in Europe and the Middle East for resources.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:28 No.15808782
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    >>15808650
    A picture
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:28 No.15808785
    >>15808758
    The tenpennies sometimes use these crops and fields as a punishment. They will leave someone to run for their life in the fields. If they outrun the predators and make it to the other side of the field - They are exiled, but gain their life. If not...
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:29 No.15808789
    >>15808641

    American retro doesn't fit in Britain, that's true, but Britain has it's own retro periods! Maybe one part Austin Powers, one part 1984, one part HG Wells?
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:31 No.15808814
    >>15808752
    I totally want mutant man-eating plants now.

    And I have the temptation to make the major plot device a tripod a la War of the Worlds. Everyone trying to seize it for various reasons.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:31 No.15808820
    Remember to include a fanatical druidic cult in the countryside, which burns captive alive inside giant statues. Their leader is a ghoul who calls himself Lord Summerisle, but is cagey about what he did before the war.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:37 No.15808890
    Royal guard ghouls still standing guard on their old posts.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GZBkajhZ0Y
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:37 No.15808899
    >>15808789
    'Kay but that wouldn't exist. Remember how post WW2 everyone in America was happy because we never fought on our soil? Everyone else was dreary because everyone was in the middle of the fighting in England? That's what happened in fallout. The nukes fell on America, but it was still a happy place because until then nothing had happened. As >>15808764 said, the place would be dreary and their happy culture destroyed BEFORE the nukes fell. After that there would be little to no references to the retro times that survived.
    Get what I'm sayin?
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:37 No.15808902
    >>15808755
    >Welsh tribals wearing sheepskins using longbows.
    This, 100% this.
    The higher-ups speak welsh entirely, and the lower tier welsh tribals speak a pidgin language mix of welsh and english with a welsh accent. Their chief thinks he's king arthur.
    Longbows in the wasteland are at least necessary if you're setting it in england.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:38 No.15808907
    So what mutant wildlife do you think would be around? English wildlife isn't very interesting, so I'm rather stuck for ways to mutate it.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:38 No.15808910
    >It is set in and around London, England

    /v/ here, there was no nuclear holocaust in London.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:40 No.15808929
    >>15808910
    Cite your work faggot.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:40 No.15808931
    >>15808907
    Radbadgers. Just. Fucking Radbadgers.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:40 No.15808938
    Instead of Vaults, Britain had a stay-behind network of people in villages, away from nuclear targets. Part-time paramilitaries with secret caches of gear and instructions.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:41 No.15808949
    >>15808907
    Watership Down,
    With Mutants.
    Go wherever you want with that.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:42 No.15808963
    >>15808910
    >1000's of nuclear bombs dropped on each side of the world
    >Thinks anyone is spared from nuclear holocaust
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:42 No.15808970
    >>15808907

    Mr.Toads, Peter Rabbits, etc.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:43 No.15808972
    >>15808899

    So it wouldn't feel as grimderp because Britain was already a wasteland before it got nuked?
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:43 No.15808976
    >>15808949
    >Watership Down,
    >With Mutants.

    Welcome to - Mutant: Undergångens Arvtagare (latest edition of a swedish rpg inspired by gamma world).
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:43 No.15808977
    >>15808929

    I play Fallout.

    Only China and the US were hit by nuclear bombs. I'm assuming the rest of the world is just too busy to help out.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:43 No.15808983
    Right, factions so far:
    -Hooligan Raiders - No idea what football is, the team is their religion

    -East London Trading Company - Redcoats with machine guns!

    -Welsh tribals - Armed with longbows and the like, pretty much as >>15808902

    -Royal Guard - The last remnants of the royal family emerging from their bunker along with their guards
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:44 No.15808991
    >>15808938

    Morlocks in the underground (subway) are a must. Also Wombles, perhaps some abhuman hobbit-style race? Or anthro talking hedgehogs?
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:44 No.15808995
    Games Workshop headquarters is inhabited by a cult of ghouls (Think Bright Brotherhood) based around worship of Chaos Gods, interpreting all the rulebooks as being actual holy books.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:45 No.15809000
    >>15808970
    well that's The Wind in the Willows, but yes, that too (and there's The Secret of NIMH and Plauge Dogs though I think they be American, still about animal experiments and fear and doom).
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:46 No.15809008
    >>15808983

    Well, how wide a scope is this? London is pretty huge, going as far as Wales seems over ambitious.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:46 No.15809013
    You know what? I want to play a game in the Commonwealth. You know, around the New England Commonwealth?
    They have the Institute, which is descended from MIT, and almost as advanced as Pre-War America.
    It actually boggles the mind how many pre-war remnants are around in Fallout in sufficient numbers to make things the way they were.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:48 No.15809036
    >>15809013

    That sounds like a pretty great idea. You should make a thread and talk about it.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:48 No.15809037
    >Only China and the US were hit by nuclear bombs.
    >I'm assuming the rest of the world is just too busy to help out.

    So some big fuckers missed and caused tidal waves and melting of caps and now most of Brittan and London is ravaged by floodings, power planst whent KABOOM! And now acidic clouds of mutagenetic radioactive rain storms and killer mutagenic smog roams the lands.
    >> Braith117 08/03/11(Wed)19:49 No.15809048
    >>15808899
    Problem that according to the Enclave's satalites, there aren't any human civilizations outside of the former United States. Much of Europe was devastated in their war with the Middle East, and were then nuked to oblivion during M.A.D.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:49 No.15809049
    >>15809013
    Yeah, I'm planning on having both the Commonwealth and the UK (or at least, my idea of it) as locations in an upcoming Fallout game I intend to run.
    I always imagined the Commonwealth's civilised areas as a giant homage to Blade Runner for some reason though...
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:49 No.15809050
    >>15809013
    >They have the Institute, which is descended from MIT
    I thought it was based on Miskatonic University?
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:49 No.15809059
    >>15809008
    I was going to have them come down into London from the North with the goal of scavenging, looting, and lots of pillaging.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:49 No.15809061
    >>15808977
    Everyone was fucked up, actually. Eurasia tore itself apart with a war and all the closest allies/annexed territories of China and America were nuked as well. That means all of North America and at least most of Asia.
    The developers actually said everyone's about equal in how destroyed everything is.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:50 No.15809064
    >>15809037

    I always assumed it was a cold war situation, with everyone locked into alliance with China or USA, so Europe (at least) and probably the whole world got nuked. Also, the destruction of the ecosystem was global, everywhere is wasteland now.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:50 No.15809069
    >>15808977
    No. It was the reds they were fighting. Everyone got hit in the world war.
    >>15808972
    No. It would be more grimderp because we wouldn't even have that whacky fun retro feel. Everything would just... suck.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:50 No.15809071
    >>15809048
    Their satellites are broken. Problem solved.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:50 No.15809072
    >>15809008
    >London is pretty huge, going as far as Wales seems over ambitious.

    Aye. Make it a mostly flooded London with different watercrafts as vehicles and mostly flooded underground subways to swim through and such.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:50 No.15809074
    >>15809050
    No, MIT. That's why they're so great with AI and robotics, get it?
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:51 No.15809078
    >>15809008
    I think it would be reasonable to have some longbow-wielding welsh tribals in some mutated forests outside of London, personally. Definitely not the biggest player in London, though.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:51 No.15809082
    >>15809069

    >Everyone got hit in the world war.

    Well, my bad
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:51 No.15809086
    >>15809048
    Its all probably handwavium by the game developers to get out of answering annoying questions.
    If you want to make a post apocalyptic fallout game in london, go ahead.
    There are some pretty cool ideas floating around.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:52 No.15809092
    >>15809072

    Eh, I'd propose a FO3 solution: isolated patches of city that can be visited via underground tunnels, the rest impassable ruins / radioactive craters / atomic super triffids.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:53 No.15809114
    >>15809078
    that's pretty fair enough, sheep shagging jokes ahoy!

    maybe have semi-sentient killer sheep? that's what Mutant had, psionic sheep that killed you with a thought roaming all over Gotland, that and Rubbits, fucking Rubbits.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:53 No.15809120
    OP here, we've got some fairly awesome factions so far, but none of them really fit the bill as 'major players' in London, apart from the redcoats and the football hooligans (who are obviously all divided).

    Any ideas for BIG factions? I was thinking military remnants, although it might get a bit similar to the Enclave, and I want to try and avoid similarities to American Fallout factions.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:53 No.15809121
    The only places that more or less fixed themselves are NCR, Australia, Japan, and some islands in the South Pacific.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:54 No.15809126
    >>15809074
    Herpderp, makes sense too. I'm guessing that MIT is just their capital, though? I mean, within 100 miles is the most university-dense area in the country, and I would be surprised if MIT would be able to establish everything on their own.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:56 No.15809150
    >>15809120
    Guess some modern.. uhm.. postapocalyptic day templars or some such?

    Clockwork Orange Style Gangers is a must.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:56 No.15809155
    >-It is set in and around London, England
    Stopped reading right there, and i fucking love Fallout you bastard, y u do this?
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:56 No.15809156
    >>15809120
    A faction of Ghoulish Guards who wear makeshift versions of that tall black headgear.
    They're ruthlessly pacifist, shooting anyone who commits violence in their sight.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:58 No.15809181
    >>15809078
    So, Point Lookout in the UK?
    Fun fact: no bombs ever hit Point Lookout. It degenerated to that state on its own.
    Don't hold your breath for New Zealand or Madagascar being a paradise.
    According to the devs, Australia is pretty much Mad Max. Thus proving that no matter what catastrophe it is to hit the world, Australians will immediately revert to Mad Max.
    Nukes? Mad Max. Asteroid? Mad Max. Supervolcano? Mad Max. Waterworld? Mad Max with Jet Skis and powerboats. Global lack of resources? Mad Max on specially trained kangaroos. No matter what, Australia will find a way.
    >>15809114
    That'd require FEV. I don't recall it ever being spread there.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:58 No.15809183
    >>15809156
    Could be a conflict between those guys and the remnants of the monarchy in the ruins of Buckingham Palace.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:58 No.15809189
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    The British govt had well-established plans for surviving in control following a nuclear attack. They advocated a semi-feudal system, with each government minister having absolute martial control over a sector of London or the country. So I could easily see an Enclave-style faction, and one which controls a good part or even a majority of the city / country.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square_Leg
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)19:59 No.15809196
    >>15809183

    Buckingham Palace is opposite Parliament, no way it'd be anything but a crater.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:00 No.15809203
    >>15809181
    That Mad Max bit made me laugh quite a lot more than it should have.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:00 No.15809206
    >>15809120

    Well I picture the stay-behind network to be a general background thing, the same way random Vaults help spawned towns and cities in Fallout America. It helped people organize communities, but they couldn't maintain structural integrity as their stashed radios broke down and discipline broke.

    Major powers around London? The Archbishop's army is marching from Canterbury, bound for an apocalyptic conflict with the Trade Union Council.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:00 No.15809212
    >>15809120
    People from the big (aformentioned) fallout shelters. Governmental remnants who mainly stay outside of London and are trying to restore order to the country. You don't see them much in London itself, only lunatics go into that radioactive hell hole, but occasionally groups come in heavy protective gear with a lot of rquipment like tanks and the like to salvage old pre war governmental buildings to collect old classified technology and surviving documents, not to mention instilling fear into the hooligans and other assorted scum as a warning to never leave the city.

    Also their main base is centred around one of the more remote royal palaces along with the royal family.
    Potentially there are two big factions fighting for two different monarchies where the lines split during isolation.
    the players probably wouldn't see this much, probably a few small skirmishes in the suburbs.

    unless they venture into the countryside...
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:01 No.15809217
    >>15809126
    Yes and no. That's the Institute. Most of the New England Commonwealth is nuked to glass like everyone else, but the Institute is a technologically advanced SOCIETY around that entire area, descended from MIT ALONE. They probably rebuilt everything else in their image.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:01 No.15809220
    >>15809196
    To be honest, the amount of shenanigans they pulled in FO3, it'd probably be cool to at least keep some ruins around.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:02 No.15809229
    >>15809189
    >Feudal System
    Sounds easy enough, OP could have earls and dukes and so forth.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:02 No.15809231
    >>15809203
    The supervolcano would require a few more snowmobiles, but they'd manage.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:03 No.15809243
    >>15808571
    In places, certainly. A lot of it would probably be like the degenerate government in World War III, by L Ron Hubbard. (I know, the man is a schmuck, but as a vapid, post apoc war novella it's actually pretty good. In some ways, it's very close to those Black Library books featuring elite Guardsmen, and is a likely inspiration for some of them.)

    The reason I have trouble with a normal Orwellian regime is because a Fallout style setting sort of implies a level of organization and infrastructure that is not so common in Fallout.

    I would much more lean towards feudalism with guns, with civilized Britain mostly consisting of petty feudal kingdoms in the same fashion as Britain in pre Norman times, (Ie, during Arthurian times.) Personally, with that setting, I think it would be highly amusing to have a so called Arthur, undoubtedly in Power Armor, and some damn fancy Pre War SCIENCE! Sword.

    Or you could just have a goofy schmuck with a plain old sword, and shitty metal armor. He could be bullying some credulous people like Dave was. If you didn't want Arthur, it could just be "His Majesty, King Fathead", or whatever. Great opportunity to shoot a primitive screwhead in the face if your players liked that sort of thing.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:03 No.15809246
    Right, I think I'm going to set Windsor Castle up as a stronghold for the monarchy remnants. It's outside London, but not too far away that task forces can't be sent into the city.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:04 No.15809262
    >>15809181
    FEV got blasted into the atmosphere at least once. It could end up anywhere.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:05 No.15809267
    >>15809220
    Nah. Remember the White House in FO3?
    As in, the crater full of Glowing Ones and Feral Ghoul Reavers if you had Broken Steel and were high level?
    Remember every building anywhere near it being rubble? Yeah.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:06 No.15809275
    >>15809262
    If so, I'm fine with that. Giant mutated sheep, ahoy!
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:06 No.15809283
    OP again, I think I might have the background to the campaign mention the splitting up of the UK into feudal kingdoms. London is a big battleground as it's where lots of borders meet and where lots of juicy pre-war tech is located.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:07 No.15809292
    there has to be a yellow submarine.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:08 No.15809301
    >>15809243
    Oh how silly of me. I was talking Arthur jokes, and I forgot Monty Python. Well, only if you wanted to be a little silly at some point. It would be fairly quick and inconsequential to have some encounter with Pythonesque Grail Seekers though.

    To avoid making things get out of hand, they might have any number of things that resemble, but are not functionally similar to a "Holy Hand Grenade". It might be anything from a plain old grenade, to a plasma grenade, to something daft like a flashbang or smoke grenade. It's not like THEY know what it does precisely. It would be a fine, fine way to mess with metagamers.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:08 No.15809307
    >>15809243
    Well, a lot of places are Orwellian in Fallout, in small communities. See Vault City, the Enclave, the Republic of Dave, the Strip if run by House, et cetera.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:09 No.15809316
    >>15809292
    The Kings from Fallout: New Vegas.

    But not The Kings. The Fab Four-Hundred
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:09 No.15809320
    >>15809243
    >Arthur
    >feudalism

    And you were doing so well... Some kind of neofeudalism is certainly a good thought, but provided it's done with suitably British ineptness, even a 1984 pastiche wouldn't be out of place. Think more Alpha Complex than Oceania.

    Besides, if we're going with a feudal system, we can have many factions with very different philosophies, so no reason not to have both.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:09 No.15809321
    >>15809301
    >It would be fairly quick and inconsequential to have some encounter with Pythonesque Grail Seekers though.
    GEC.. Uhm, Grail [G.R.A.I.L.] Seekers, yes.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:11 No.15809337
    >>15809301
    Perhaps the holy hand grenade is some sort of pre-war nuclear hand grenade? The PCs find out and are tasked with stealing/deactivating it from under the grail-seekers noses.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:11 No.15809338
    And then there's gunpowder treason and plot to be had, some how one has to be able to blow up parliment!
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:12 No.15809354
    London - Big Ben, Parliament, doesn't exist. Completely fucking destroyed. There was a nuclear war after all.

    But London has a lot of fucking suburbs, which survived, while the Thames carried the radioactive bullshit that was once London proper to sea.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:13 No.15809361
    >1984

    maybe there's an active A.I. controling all them cameeras all over London and if the player get caught doing things while it watches its opinions of the characetr shifts and changes and eventually there's some sort of final encounter..

    >sinessin 1950
    close captcha, close.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:13 No.15809363
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    Every age of strife in British history has a Blackadder.

    The post-apocalypse would be no different.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:14 No.15809368
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    >>15809283

    Sounds good. Britain has been divided in pieces in many periods, there are many possibilities depending on how many factions you want.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:14 No.15809372
    >>15809321
    fuck yes.
    Come up with an acronym similar to a G.E.C.K. except it's GRAIL.
    It's a GECK with multiple charges.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:15 No.15809380
    >>15809354
    yes lets destroy some of teh most interesting locatiosn to play around with.. or, lets not!

    I'm still up for partial flooding making a much more interesting twist then just nukes, for London.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:16 No.15809402
    >>15809354
    >Big Ben, Parliament, doesn't exist
    How could you say that?
    The washington monument is almost completely intact, for instance!
    Honestly though, I agree. There isn't really a building as tall as Big Ben which could sustain hundreds of years of being out of use even if it survived the initial nuclear blast.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:17 No.15809411
    >>15809380
    >interesting

    In a video game, maybe, but Big Ben is just a big clock.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:17 No.15809413
    >>15809372
    >GRAIL

    well it has a nice big A.I. right there in it.. (maybe a second A.I. - brain in a jar, to some how 'combat' the 1984 A.I. - brain in a jar?)

    Main plots!

    And I'm sorry if I'm not thinking of this as a pnp any more but a crpg.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:19 No.15809450
    >>15809368
    I think this map would be great to base it on, throw in mercia being full of pagans, for instance.
    Also, have the Archbishop of Canterbury be significant, somehow.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:19 No.15809452
    Fallout proper is mid-20th century retro-futurism, with an apocalypse on top, right? Pick your big theme (be it a UK version of the same, or futuristic feudalism or whatever) and fit ideas to that. Not that you should pass up a great idea that doesn't quite fit the context.

    Definitely agree that Triffids or equivalent are a must have.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:21 No.15809467
    >>15809320
    Don't be a cunt. I specified some fuckwhit who is using Arthurian legend to get cachet in a society that is not itself likely to be feudal in the sense I know you mean.

    I am also aware of the historical details and such that distinguish the feudal period from later periods.

    We are talking about amusing things to do with a game that's about the end of the world as filtered through B-Movies and pulp magazines.

    I can be a little silly. Besides, most of the surviving legends were initially conceived of and codified in the prototypical form we know them in the early feudal period. You get myths about Arthur that are stupidly ahistorical. I know of very little Arthurian legend that's actually not feudal or medieval. And there isn't any reliable or definite account about anyone who sounds a lot like Arthur.

    Unless that was your point? Because it's pretty obvious he wasn't a single real person.

    I must apologize, you just riled me. But you know, all I wanted to do was suggest an idea for some variously shady or silly man playing on the folk culture and legend likely to be available to the Post Apoc British people, likely looking for a promised King.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:22 No.15809486
    Have a perfectly clean Police Box sitting on a street corner. For some reason no one can quite get the lock open.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:23 No.15809503
    Guys guys guys.

    MI6 in Fallout: London. Y/N?
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:23 No.15809504
    Have some of the lords of the different places to be based on the lords in stronghold.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:24 No.15809507
    >>15809452
    Yes, quite. We would want to be dog robbing the same sources as League of Extraordinary Gentlemen did for that "Black Folio" one. It had your Triffids and British Style rockets, and what have you.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:25 No.15809527
    >>15809503

    Yes.

    The would make very good 'Man behind the man' players.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:26 No.15809535
    Waterski Jousting!

    Also, Lady of the La.. Thames and Yellow Submarines, some female Sgt. Pepper as companion, and of course a Maxwell's Silver Hammer (quest thread for a super special power sledgehammer or some such).
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:27 No.15809544
    Wasn't there a guy who set up poker nights that ended up being mobile casinos where nobility and celebrities went and lost huge sums of money while constantly changing locations to avoid police raids back in the 1950s or something? Because if it turns into some totalitarian place that'd be cool.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:27 No.15809546
    OP again. I really like the sound of the neo-feudalism thing. Would help establish some major factions. Anyone want to come up with some kingdoms? My ideas:

    Mercia, in the north is very backward. Backward to the point where they all follow a power armoured man named Arthur and ride mutant horses.

    To the West of London are the lands of the monarchy remnants who emerged from their bunker.

    The Welsh tribals surge down the border between those two into London.


    Also, I'm looking for fairly silly in this. This isn't going to be a srs bsns grimderp campaign.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:27 No.15809551
    >>15809452
    Triffids aren't an out of context reference. John Wyndham was writing his sci-fi in the 50s.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:28 No.15809563
    >some female Sgt. Pepper as companion
    who of course where a member of the Lonely Hearts Club Band (of scoundrels).
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:30 No.15809575
    >>15809486
    that would be pretty awesome. they just find it one day but nothing happens so they move on. If they come back a week or month later it might have dissapeared but that may be too over the top.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:32 No.15809607
    British Fallout? Tank Girl has to make it in there somewhere...
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:33 No.15809609
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    >>15809546
    A very neat, well kept town where there is no crime, the neighborhood watch makes sure of that. It's all for the greater good.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:33 No.15809612
    We've done this quite a few times.
    http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/8722284/
    http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/13664828/

    Dalek looking securitrons, Robin Hood based gang that only got the "Steal from the rich" part of the line and never saw the "Give to the poor" bit.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:33 No.15809620
    >>15809551
    Hence new paragraph. You're right though, they're perfect.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:35 No.15809637
    >>15809612
    And I've contributed to every one of them.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:36 No.15809645
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    Have some mysterious druids.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:40 No.15809674
    >>15809612
    to be fair robin hood never had the whole give to the poor anyway.
    One legend had it he wanted his bow and one last arrow to fire out of his cell and to be buried where the arrow falls. He used the arrow to kill a nun.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:41 No.15809681
    >>15809674
    That's an utterly fantastic dick move.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:41 No.15809682
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    >>15809546
    A nation of totalitarian mole people with surveillance everywhere in their dank dark tunnels underneath london. Their soldiers where big pith helmets that cover their entire head with two holes for the eyes to protect their skin from the sun. They've started to try and colonize the surface and bring order to the savage topsiders. Cue guys like in the pic singing men of harlech as the welsh tribals draw nearer.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:43 No.15809705
    WINSTON CHURCHILL EQUIVALENT AS A BRAIN IN A JAR.

    HE IS A DICK. BUT HE IS ALSO QUITE CHARMING AND LINGUISTIC.

    HE IS STILL A DICK, THOUGH.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:45 No.15809723
    >WINSTON CHURCHILL EQUIVALENT AS A BRAIN IN A JAR.

    Margaret Thatcher Brian in Jar as an Iron Lady (Android Body)!
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:46 No.15809725
    The national anthem is the Safety Dance.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:47 No.15809745
    >>15809682
    Also bonus points for getting the irony.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:47 No.15809746
    >>15809723
    Eh. Winston makes sense for a whole 1940s-1950s aesthetic, only a British one not an American.

    Also Orwell's recipe for a cup of tea is holy. HOLY.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:52 No.15809804
    >>15809546
    The only thing that really strikes me as bad about that is Mercia being ruled by an Arthur figure.
    While most Arthurian legends are just legends, historically he was supposedly a Briton who fought the saxons and died. The Mercians were the main enemy of the britons historically in the 7th century which is essentially a generation or two after Arthur, so having them being ruled by a guy named Arthur when there are much better options irks me a bit. Personally I'd think either one of the welsh tribals or the king in London being called Arthur would be the best place to put him, and you definitely should put Arthur somewhere.
    It would be much better to have Mercia ruled by a guy based on this other great fellow here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penda_of_Mercia
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:54 No.15809831
    One more thing, what's the currency? Caps make no sense, so what would it be?
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:57 No.15809857
    >>15809831
    Monocles
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:57 No.15809860
    >>15809831
    The motherfucking pound, except the tribals, they use sheep's teef.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:58 No.15809867
    >>15809831
    Tea bags. They survived, somehow.

    Would there be any tea in Fallout UK? It'd run out, wouldn't it? And we couldn't import it.

    My, what an apocalyptic fate.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)20:59 No.15809881
    >>15809857
    fucking this
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:00 No.15809897
    >>15809831
    sterling silver?
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:01 No.15809903
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    >>15809867

    >England
    >No Tea

    Oh god.

    We went halfway round the world, beat up the natives and founded the largest military empire known to man just to get a cuppa.
    It's goddamned genetic - a lack of Tea would be more a sign of the apocalypse than the nukes.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:02 No.15809911
    You need somebody with an awesome voice worthy of Frank Horrigan or Legate Lanius or the Master or Liberty Prime for the final boss of the main campaign. Anything else would be an insult to Fallout.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:03 No.15809920
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    >>15809911
    BRIAN BLESSED
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:05 No.15809940
    >Fallout
    Awesome.
    >Fallout in Britain.
    DOING IT SO VERY WRONG.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:06 No.15809945
    >>15809867
    IT SURVIVED DUE TO THE ROYAL BUNKER, SOMEHOW THE RADIOACTIVE DIRT MANAGES TO MAKE TEA LEAVES GROW WELL, CRISIS AVERTED! phew.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:06 No.15809947
    >>15809920
    Ideally, yes. Get BRIAN BLESSED to voice the BBEG, if you can.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:06 No.15809948
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    >>15809920

    If it's good enough for Blakes Seven, it's good enough for me!

    On that note; Blakes Seven and FLASH! AAHAAAAA
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:09 No.15809977
    >>15809945

    NO, THERE IS NO TEA LEFT.

    AT ALL.

    THERE IS, HOWEVER, A TEA-LIKE SUBSTANCE THAT WAS MASS-PRODUCED IN SUCH A QUANTITY THAT IT'S STILL POSSIBLE TO FIND PLENTY OF EVEN A CENTURY OR SO AFTER THE WAR.

    PRESENTING "ATOM'S OF PICADILLY," WHEN YOU WANT YOUR DAILY TEA-TIMES INFUSED WITH A LITTLE GOOD OLD-FASHIONED NUCLEAR PUNCH!
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:10 No.15809982
    >>15809903
    Actually that could be an interesting one. the nukes didn't fall anywhere near Britain and it was spared the worst of the fallout. but when the tea ran out anarchy reigned and the country fell in line with the others. The last stocks of tea are fought over more viciously than any precious metals or advanced technology.

    there are rumors that a man in his shed has invented a machine that makes tea from thin air. all of the factions are seeking this man and his shed for surely it will bring salvation to all!
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:10 No.15809985
    After this we can do Fallout Romania yes?
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:11 No.15809996
    you've got to have a guy in his shed who makes some unbelievable technology out of bits of junk. And a trainset.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:12 No.15809999
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    OP, I drew up a rough map of what I'm thinking.
    London is supposed to be the circle. It's divided kind of in half, with the control only being formal with gangs everywhere of course. The whole region northeast of london is either feudal, controlled by the ELTC, or some mix of both.
    It's pretty shitty but I think it will help slightly.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:12 No.15810002
    >>15809985
    No.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:12 No.15810005
    >>15809903
    >>15809945
    >>15809977
    The main quest for the group will be to locate a lab bunker rumored to store the seeds for a tea plant able to grow in post apoc Britain.

    Much is at stake! Many factions are desperate to locate this lab and unite the people under their banner for the promise of renewable tea!
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:13 No.15810007
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    >>15809982

    >man in his shed has invented a machine that makes tea from thin air.

    >mfw

    I think we've found our "King" Arthur. Returns in England's greatest hour of need? No tea qualifies in my (somewhat tongue in cheek) books!
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:13 No.15810008
    Punch and Judy? Fine British tradition, very popular during the period.

    How to Falloutify it?
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:15 No.15810026
    >FO3

    Maybe if you like a game that shit on the previous games' lore.

    Go FO1 or FO2 based game. Radscorpions, Super Mutants everywhere.

    >>15809985
    >Having a Fallout game outside the US when FO is centered around the American 50's.

    If you want post apocalyptic London be sure to include the Dosh.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:15 No.15810027
    >>15809982
    The guy in his shed is known as the Guvnor
    Everyone seeks the Guvnor's Refined Atomic Invigorating Liquid.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:15 No.15810031
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    >>15810002

    okay.jpg
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:16 No.15810035
    An Orwellian London, loyal to the survivors of the Royal Family, with cameras everywhere would be cool. Dalek peace enforces.

    It also turns out that the Royal Bunker had some... problems. While the proud face of the monarch is displayed throughout, it is somewhat outdated. In reality, the King/Queen is a Ghoul who is never seen in public. And also quite mad. It is the Prime minister who actually runs shit. Prime Minister may or may not be rip off of Winston Churchill.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:17 No.15810041
    >>15810008
    Actual mutated crocodiles and wife-beating. Keep the voices.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:18 No.15810046
    >>15810007
    Fuck yes, this is where to put Arthur.
    Returns in England's greatest hour of need with infinite tea.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:18 No.15810048
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    >>15810026
    >Dosh

    This is the currency.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:18 No.15810049
    >>15810035
    i like this
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:19 No.15810068
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    >>15810027
    GRAIL
    fuck me i didn't see that at first
    >> --W-F-I-- 08/03/11(Wed)21:21 No.15810080
    >>15808361

    OP you Realise that GW HQ in all it's Nazi like Glory HAS to be the place where the Power Armoured guys are.

    I really do not see why people have a problem with Fallout: Not Merica hell everywhere is Falloutable.

    But Yes the Football hooligan raiders who do not know of football any more or have its Idea completely backwards like fields of battle and murder for the masses to watch. London has silly amounts of pigeons too right? There you go Giant Mutant Pigeons as dangers.

    Big Ben is a MUST have as are Ghouls with Big fuzzy Black helmets/hats.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:21 No.15810085
    >>15810041
    And the policeman, don't forget him.

    A little home with all of these weird, derange people. A man who constantly steals stuff and caused mischief, his wife who tells him off and they have quite violent episodes and another man under the delusion of being part of the police who joins in. And the mutant crocodile.

    Their mentality, voices and grotesque faces are partly radiation exposure from somewhere and party due to initial violence leading to more of this behaviour due to attacks to the head.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:22 No.15810099
    >>15810080
    Pretty much agree with everything you just said, but I still want
    >>15808995
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:24 No.15810110
    right, need little plastic miniature space soldier men jokes.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:24 No.15810116
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    >>15810080
    >Games Workshop HQ

    Ooooh...How about a faction that's found a legible copy of a 40K Codex and took it literally?


    ...Not Spess Mahrines, too easy. Praetorian Guard?
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:25 No.15810126
    >>15810116
    Ghoulish cult of nurgle.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:25 No.15810128
    Battle Bunker.. (players get all excited) ..full of miniature plastic space men.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:26 No.15810134
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    >>15810116
    >> Spawn_More_Synaps 08/03/11(Wed)21:27 No.15810151
    rolled 21 = 21

    >>15810116
    Khornite Super Mutants
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:28 No.15810154
    Needs a gang called the Bennies who use a lot of benzedrine and have kept the clock in the tower at the Palace of Westminster chiming on time.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:28 No.15810158
    >>15810151
    >>15810126

    Needs to have something...British. Some little flavour.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:29 No.15810167
    >>15810154
    They're also very good at evading pursuers.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:30 No.15810182
    >>15810158
    Top hats.
    Or just have it be british via being based out of GW HQ.
    I mean, not everything in the other fallouts is entirely about america.
    >> Spawn_More_Synaps 08/03/11(Wed)21:30 No.15810190
    rolled 42 = 42

    >>15810151
    No, wait even better, Super Mutants that think they're Orks, they could even be one of the hooligan factions
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:32 No.15810217
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    >>15810190

    >mfw

    It's PERFECT.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:34 No.15810253
    >>15810190
    >super mutants
    >caused by dipping in FEV vats
    >in Britain
    No.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:34 No.15810255
    >>15808564
    It's not Fallout with Vault-Tec. Period.

    It's like a Half-Life game without Black Mesa.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:36 No.15810277
    >>15810253

    FEV was released into the atmosphere at least once; Immersion is not necessary.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:37 No.15810302
    >>15810253
    >Implying they'd be 'first generation'
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:38 No.15810309
    Fallout is based entirely on 1950's cold war americana urban mythology. Why the FUCK would they set Fallout in another country?

    Fucking retards.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:38 No.15810310
    >>15810255
    You heard it here, folks. Half-Life 2 was not a Half-Life game.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:39 No.15810336
    >>15810255
    Well, the only thing unique Vault-tec presents is wacky psychological/scientific experiments.

    So we just need to think of a way to put those in. An Orwellian faction, as suggested earlier, may have had it's deep roots earlier as a sort of Enclave equivalent and decided to do some experiments.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:39 No.15810343
    >>15810310
    Did you play Half-Life 2 or are you just clinically retarded?
    >> --W-F-I-- 08/03/11(Wed)21:39 No.15810345
    >>15810128
    Lol
    Also
    G lobal
    R eplicating
    A rtificial
    I nteligence
    L abourer

    Points if you make it all crazy in the general vein of kill all humans make world pure that AI in fallout normally have
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:40 No.15810352
    >>15810310

    Black Mesa East.

    YesIknowitbarelycountsasalab.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:40 No.15810354
    James Bond and MI6? Maybe put that in the London area?
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:41 No.15810367
    >>15810336
    The entire Fallout franchise revolves around Vault-Tec.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:42 No.15810384
    >>15810309
    talk (read what they have said) to the original fallout designers and you'll hear (see) that they where disapointed that fallout 3 was not taken to a whole new place with new fresh ideas (while still retaining the level of humor and tone).
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:43 No.15810400
    >>15810367
    Yes, yes, it's a central theme. But slap a different name on it and keep the central elements, and it's still Fallout.

    But what is Vault-tec? Vaults and crazy experiments. Vaults are pretty easy to justify.

    Crazy experiments need an origin, though.
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    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:45 No.15810418
    >>15810410
    That's a smell pest in Fallout Austalia.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:46 No.15810430
    >>15810367
    Yes, but we're talking about the setting, man.
    Playing a fallout game in a country other than america is perfectly reasonable.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:46 No.15810433
    All this talk of Vault tech reminds me that what I really want to see, and even play, is the first few days or weeks starting from when the bombs hits.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:46 No.15810439
    >Vault 034
    >Vault full of 6 people
    >100+ Super Mutants
    >Piles of Dosh

    Though FO Universe revolves around US, so I doubt Bethseda would make one outside of it.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:47 No.15810453
    >>15810439
    Well, yeah. But we're just doing hypotheticals, it's not like we're sending this to them.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:48 No.15810460
    >>15810400
    Well, for vault-tec, it was a shadow government who wanted to reset the world, or rather colonize an other world but those plans fell through. They didn't know what the optimal society should be so they built the vaults with all sorts of experiments in the hopes of figuring out what the best society should be. Then started a nuclear war.

    It wasn't the best thought out plan.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:49 No.15810481
    Also there could be FEV-strain labs in London (which cracked open when some quakes, tsunamis, floodings happned and the FEV's ran out in the water supplies).

    Making it a twisted setting of the american west coast fallout, with a flooded London where the water (abundant source of) is full of FEV.

    Vehicles being water based and cthulhian fish people and giant tentacles from the thames! (JRR Tolkien and Lovecraft)

    Also the PW for a Vault Door has to be "Friend".
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:50 No.15810498
    >Vault 007
    Vault is proclaimed as the most advanced of all vaults, holding the highest knowledge of the british military at the time of it's closing.
    Every inhabitant is secretly a member of an obscure intelligence agency. Everyone goes into it thinking they're the only one.
    Eventually someone breaks into the extremely well defended center of the base, receives note that they are the best spy in the spy-vault. They're given a gun that shoots tea, for which there is a lifetime supply of ammo.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:52 No.15810541
    >>15810481
    I say, we do a compromise.

    Radiation for some mutant animals and shit,

    But, predominately, the enemies are other humans (Britain has a more condensed population), ghouls and robots.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:53 No.15810548
    >>15810481

    >(which cracked open when some quakes, tsunamis,

    That's Japan.
    I know we're both post-Imperial, Island nations with a reputation for stiff upper lips, a love of tea and odd humour, but England isn't located on a whole shitload of faultlines.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:55 No.15810577
    >>15810548
    I think he meant to say they cracked open when anarchy hit the UK as tea supplies were exhausted following the apocalypse.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:58 No.15810605
    >>15810577

    Ah, I see.

    Yes, the chaos following the exhaustion of tea would have been terrible. Not so bad at first, as people tried herbal and nettle tea, but after the first 48 hours...Well.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)21:58 No.15810617
    >>15810548
    which is all good, though they coudl be of V-tech origin (a series of Vaults nuclear powerplants exploding) ice-caps melting, n-bombs or offshore submerged vaults going BOOM causing a flood wave partially/mostly flooding London.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)22:00 No.15810634
    >>15808681
    Go check out the weapons from Metro 2033. Many of them are cobbled together from scrap using homemade ammunition with Military-grade ammo having become the standard currency. Given by New Vegas' time, the Gun Runners are building high quality guns and ammo off of schematics, I'm sure driven survivors in Britain could do the same. Hell, the Sten Gun was the most popular SMG used by European Resistance because it was easy to make. Also, go wikipedia "Borz Gun". It should give you an idea of homemade weapon quality.
    >>15808755
    FUCK YES. Also, have them make massive makeshift shrines that they worship regularily in the middle of football fields. And have them treat the fields as holy ground. Also make sure they have crazy beards and act as much like vikings as possible, raiding shit.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)22:02 No.15810665
    >>15810577
    no no the tea shortage is why the UK never managed to pull together and sort things out when the catastrophy struck. riots, neighbours killing neighbours over the rumor of a single ol' bag..
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)22:02 No.15810671
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threads

    Op watch this. Should give you help later on. This film is fucking scary. first 30-40 minutes boring as fuck but when the nukes hit shit really hits the fan.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikJb4jMidh0&feature=related part 6 is where the nukes hit. Ready your body.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)22:02 No.15810675
    A few random ideas.

    Have it so one of the football hooligan groups is based on Manchester. They've mixed City and United into one group...

    For guns, have a mix of old WW2 guns, like the Sten gun. The Sten gun had a stupidly easy design that meant it could be very easily manufactured. The Lee Enfield, Bren Gun and SA80 are mandatory too.

    This should be the theme song.
    >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHcunREYzNY
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)22:08 No.15810740
    I've got it. Each squad of football hooligans is named after the shirt sponsors. They are usually the biggest thing on the shirts anyway. So you've got the Samsung Blues taking on the AON Reds and the Emirates.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)22:09 No.15810758
    >>15810548
    >implying nukes didn't create fault lines and fuck up tectonics in general
    It'd be kind of cool for most of Japan and Oceania to be under-water due to this.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)22:11 No.15810785
    An Oxbridge faction that's trying to keep some sort of knowledge together, and have access to the more sci-fi weaponry/armour?
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)22:12 No.15810793
    >>15810418
    Fallout: Australia does play a lot like SotC at times, doesn't it? Those fucking koalas man. those fucking koalas.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)22:12 No.15810801
    >>15810785
    Cambridge faction must also be present and their bitter rivals.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)22:12 No.15810811
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    >>15810740

    Why the hell didn't I think of that?
    >> Aibaleet 08/03/11(Wed)22:13 No.15810818
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    Buckingham Palace should be a place draped in legend; of an ancient treasure guarded by MASSIVE BLOODTHIRSTY RADIOACTIVE GUARD-CORGIES

    Then have the players storm the palace only to find out that all the corgies want to do is play
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)22:14 No.15810835
    >>15810793
    No, it's plays out like Mad Max while dodging spiders.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)22:15 No.15810839
    >>15810801

    Yeah, looking at the distances between Oxford and Cambridge, they wouldn't exactly unify. A fierce rivalry between professors wearing tweed coloured power armour.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)22:15 No.15810847
    there needs to be a guy selling curry-corgi chunks outside Buckingham Palace.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)22:16 No.15810852
    >>15810818
    But they play like puppies. Tackles, wrestling, little nips and hyperactive digging. Except these beasts are as big as a tiger with unparalleled hearing and smell. Totally blind.

    It loves you. I loves you dangerously.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)22:17 No.15810881
    Uhm.. so the classic fallout 'dog' will be a honorable mentioned corgi?
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)22:18 No.15810896
    >>15810881

    Not a Bulldog? For shame.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)22:19 No.15810912
    >>15810881
    No. Corgis are huge and live in Buckingham.

    The honorable dog will be a bulldog.

    IT IS THE BRITISH THING.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)22:20 No.15810917
    One of the hooligan factions needs to raise british bulldogs. Bulldogs the size of horses. They ride them into battle.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)22:21 No.15810928
    Corgi for extra Bald (Charisma boost)
    Bulldog for.. something
    English Shepherd for somwthing to do with the welsh and their killer sheeps.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)22:23 No.15810952
    >>15810917

    The Sorbet Hams and the Macron Blues have the worst rivalry oft them all.. and would be great for riding bulldogs into battle. Or rather, they look viciously at each other from opposite side of the Thames.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)22:24 No.15810982
    also maybe there should be some crazy bastard (companion) talking in gaelic, dressed in a kilt, blue paint in his face, and wielding a greatsword.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)22:25 No.15811003
    Given that there's a royal family faction, surely we need a Roundhead faction led by the IRON LADY, who uses the Cromwell system in an attempt to seize power.
    >> --W-F-I-- 08/03/11(Wed)22:27 No.15811039
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    >>15810928
    Killer Sheep you Say?

    Pic related the Welse version of Deathclaws
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)22:27 No.15811044
    >>15811003

    Also, the New Model Army refers to the fact that they have a New Model of Securitrons in their army, namely the aforementioned Daleks.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)22:29 No.15811070
    >>15811039
    The result of radiation and welsh habbits.

    Or crazy welsh mad scientist in love with sheep.

    Also giant mechanical dragon in wales? Might be cool? Imagine seeing a terrifying tech-dragon... and have it speak in a Welsh accent.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)22:31 No.15811101
    If you're wanting some sort of travel, so the factions outside London have an actual effect, you could have a very basic rail system, using classic steam power. Though, both Oxford and Cambridge use different scales for their trains.
    >> Aibaleet 08/03/11(Wed)22:32 No.15811111
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    >>15811070
    No no no.

    Imagine it voiced...

    By Sean Connery
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)22:32 No.15811117
    >>15810835
    I said at times. Don't tell me facing off against a 50' tall Koala didn't put hairs on your chest?
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)22:39 No.15811208
    >>15808361
    mmmmm honestly London doesn't sound like a great choice... Outside of major conflict unlikely to have high tech arms and armor. No chinese no americans no super mutants
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)22:39 No.15811227
    >>15811208
    >Implying high tech is the point of a fallout game
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)22:41 No.15811239
    >>15811208

    Instead you have Scots, Welsh, French, Irish as 'enemies', with Oxford and Cambridge becoming technological power houses providing the sci fi weapons and equipment. Sheffield can become the industrial powerhouse of the north, interested only in trading.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)22:41 No.15811240
    >>15811208
    >no imagination no familiarity

    oh you poor poor thing.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)22:43 No.15811287
    Given the English love of the Navy, you could have a faction based in Portsmouth/Southhampton, which in this universe became one giant city. A 'Blue Blood' sort of thing, driving around landships. Slaves using ores can be the power source, while the noble officers run the thing.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)22:44 No.15811316
    >>15811239 Sheffield can become the industrial powerhouse of the north, interested only in trading.

    Unfortunately, nobody can understand a fucking word they're saying, and the city dies a slow and lonely death due to isolation.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)22:46 No.15811341
    >>15811239

    >Irish

    Somebody upthread suggested a Cromwell type faction; If you know your history, then you'll know that that's the perfect setup for two factions that bitterly hate one another.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)22:46 No.15811349
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    >>15811287
    How about this kind of thing?
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)22:48 No.15811392
    >>15811316

    I like your style!
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)22:50 No.15811417
    >>15811349

    That sort of thing exactly. They could play up the reputation that they are true nobles and upholding the finest traditions of the Royal Navy, but in reality they little more then pirate, raiding villages at will.

    Bit like Sir Francis Drake, really.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)22:50 No.15811425
    NO. STOP THIS.

    This sucks.

    London and all of England was absolutely DESTROYED.

    FOREVER.

    Along with all of Yurop and pretty much everywhere else but America.

    So no London. No anything. Only AMERICA. Got it, Eurofaggot?
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)22:52 No.15811447
    >>15811425
    Did you come here with the rest of /v/? Cut it out.
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    >>15811425

    >nofunallowed.jpg
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)22:52 No.15811475
    >>15811425
    Tenpenny's implied from Europe.

    They never said Europe got destroyed. badly damages from the Resource War, but not destroyed.

    Deal with it.
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    >>15811425

    >Stop being creative! It's badwrongfun!
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)22:55 No.15811530
    I was going to try running a Fallout game set in the Midwest.

    What system are you using? I found the Fallout PnP pdfs, but it's pretty complex.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)22:56 No.15811557
    >>15811341

    Playing up the sectarian violence aspect might be more interesting though. Make it focused on the production of tea though...

    I've got it. The Church of England are the one's who know the recipe for Tea, having bought all the Guvnor's Refined Atomic Invigorating Liquid devices. Various religious offshoots try to make different types of tea, using different methods..

    Hence holy war over tea. It's very British.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)22:57 No.15811572
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    >>15809267

    You mean the inhabitable, intact buildings literally on the other side of the fence? Just down the road from the ridiculously-intact Capitol Building, Washington Monument, etc.?

    One of the first and most obvious departures from reality in the Fallout games is how nuclear bombing is far less destructive than it would be in real life.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)22:58 No.15811586
    Europe got totally fucked int the fallout Universe. They started the resource wars and for what was left in the mid east and north Africa. Once that ran out Europe fell into tiny warring nation states. They were already feudal before the bombs fell. The continent got fucked period
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)22:58 No.15811587
    Personally I'd prefer if the Irish were entirely isolated from events taking place in Great Britain.
    Also Highlander Ghouls man, Highlander ghouls.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)23:00 No.15811624
    >>15811586

    We. Don't. Care.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)23:01 No.15811637
    >>15811557

    I still like the idea of "King" Arthur being, well, a proxy Arthur Dent with a properly calibrated food dispenser. Afterall, the story goes that King Arthur will return in the hour of England's greatest need, and no tea? UNTHINKABLE. Even during the blitz, there was always a cuppa. The British Army is the only military to have a kettle built into every armoured vehicle as part of the design requirements.

    We built a fucking Empire on the stuff, it's like Spice to Navigators, or Ketrasel White to a Jem'Hadar.

    And there's no reason there can't be more than a couple of major factions; Have it start out appearing that the Church, University and Cromwells are one faction, and the Irish, Welsh and Hooligans are another, and then expand on the intricacies in the interactions. Playing off the way that you had the Pale Irish and the Wild Irish during Cromwells magical slaughter safari.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)23:02 No.15811658
    >>15811587

    Well, there are large numbers of Irish immigrants in Britain today. The country might be isolated, but there are enough Irish to have a presence in London for sure.

    Highlander Ghouls is an awesome idea, and you should be commended for it.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)23:02 No.15811660
    >>15811475
    Lead designer confirmed this.

    Tenpenny's from Great Britain.

    That means people live there still.

    Now if the conditions are worse than in America, maybe. We could try and make it deadlier.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)23:02 No.15811669
    The idea of England having been a war-blasted hellhole before the Apocalypse actually works in your favor. You could have bunkers all over the place, London turned into a giant, half-flooded warren of repurposed subway tubes, military tunnels and bunkers. Old Home Defense bunkers and armories, Bobby-Bots, and so on.

    London itself could be like the Mall in FO3: a dangerous hellhole full of mutated monsters where only the craziest motherfuckers dare to go. Yet home to powerful old weapons technology and other rare supplies.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)23:02 No.15811673
    >>15811425
    china would certainly have its own vault like shelters. I ran a game set in Hong Kong where a US super carrier filled with troops washed ashore when the bombs fell. Begin US invasion all over again
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)23:03 No.15811694
    After this can we Fallout Russia and Fallout China?
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)23:05 No.15811721
    >>15811658

    What he said.

    My Grandparents are from Dublin. I'm from Sussex.

    I'm third generation Irish, yet I still spit at the name Cromwell, I still eat Irish food (coddle, mmm-mmm) and I know Irish folklore.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)23:05 No.15811727
    >>15811637

    Oh, I love the King Arthur/Arthur Dent idea, especially as it plays up the eccentric British inventor archetype. In my personal game of this which I will now be running (thanks for the idea guys, I've been looking for a game to run!) the device will still have been made by 'Arthur', but they'll be controlled by the Church.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)23:07 No.15811777
    This setting for exaggerated post apocalyptic Britain is really awesome, but it's not Fallout.

    Fallout is exaggerated post apocalyptic America, that's the point of Fallout.

    Deal with it.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)23:08 No.15811806
    >>15811669

    Honestly, you could have two distinct and seperate sections to the game; Wandering through this Green and Pleasant Land, and making your way through the carcass of the largest city in Europe*.

    *Population of 7.5m, next largest is Berlin at 3.3m
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)23:09 No.15811820
    >>15811777
    Well you see, if we made this and called it something else fags would just say it's a ripoff of Fallout and complain.

    So may as well just call it Fallout UK. Besides, some of the Fallout team expressed desires of wanting to do a non-American based game i.e Sawyer once said he wanted to do a game about the Resource War.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)23:10 No.15811825
    >>15811637
    I love the King Arthur returning in England's hour of greatest tea to deliver tea to the wasteland idea, personally.
    >>15811658
    Well it goes without saying that there would be irish surviving in britain, but I meant Ireland, really.
    I'm thinking that Ireland itself would be rather like dark ages Ireland; isolated but with underground monasteries, illuminators transcribing pre-war documents and such. Besides the Illuminators you'd have tons of kingdoms that go to war every once in a while and call it a party.
    On second thought, I think some traveling Irish Monk style dudes might make forays throughout europe seeking manuscripts. Shit would be quite cool.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)23:10 No.15811835
    >>15811806

    That contrast is a thing of beauty. Seriously. I'm going to use that line in my own game.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)23:11 No.15811847
    >>15811777

    We don't care. Really. You're either new to /tg/ or a troll, because this shit is what we do. It's called creativity.

    >>15811727

    Ah, fair enough. Means you can't have the GRAIL seekers, though.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)23:11 No.15811854
    >>15811825

    I love the travelling Irish monk idea.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)23:12 No.15811872
    >>15811847
    Perhaps the tea while suitable is... sub-par.

    The GRAIL is said to be a device capable of making a proper cuppa.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)23:12 No.15811881
    >>15811820

    Anyone who calls this setting a rip-off of Fallout is an absolute moron. The only similarities I've seen while skimming are the post apocalyptic setting.

    They might as well call any setting based after a nuclear war a Fallout rip-off.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)23:13 No.15811887
    >>15811777
    >Set in the Fallout universe
    >Exaggerated British culture in the same vein as American culture in Fallout
    And you're saying this isn't Fallout?
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)23:14 No.15811907
    >>15811872

    ...You mean it tastes almost, but not quite, exactly unlike tea?

    >>15811825

    Actually, Ireland was one of the bastions of civilisation during the dark ages; They kept proper records, had a free health service(ish), and preserved a lot of knowledge.

    >>15811835
    Which line, Green and Pleasant land and Carcass of the largest city in Europe?
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)23:14 No.15811914
    >>15811847

    Hmm. Perhaps there were only a limited number of GRAIL's built, and with no prototypes or backups or plans or anything, finding one is like finding a working GECK. So different groups go out to try and find working GRAIL's throughout post-apocalyptic Britain.

    There's the GRAIL seekers.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)23:14 No.15811916
    Is OP still here? Also is this thread archived yet for future usage of the many ideas and creativity in it?
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)23:16 No.15811929
    >>15811907
    >>15811835

    Yeah. The transition from 'Green and Pleasant Land' to 'The Carcass of the City' is a good one really. I'm sure some wordsmith could put it in more poetic terms.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)23:16 No.15811933
    >>15811907
    That's exactly my point with the Ireland thing, and I think it would fit rather well because, well, who bothers to drop nukes on Ireland?
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)23:17 No.15811962
    >>15811914

    That would devalue King Dent's invention of a tea-replicator.

    Perhaps the device breaks, or it doesn't have the exact formula; The GRAILs are said to have a couple of teabags, which would be enough to perfect the device?

    Oh, and don't make it obvious who King Dent is; Refer to him as King Dent, and have him introduced slyly as Dent. Arthur Dent.

    Stealth puns!
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)23:20 No.15812005
    >>15811962

    Stealth puns are vitally important. We need to get the humour just right.

    Oh, Slough was utterly untouched by the apocalypse. It's still in a pristine state.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)23:21 No.15812014
    >>15811929

    The term "Green and Pleasant Land" originates from "And did those feet in ancient time" - you may find a line or two of that useful.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_and_pleasant_land

    >>15811933

    Ah, I misunderstood you. Yeah, it's pretty perfect - Ireland...isn't really on anyone's shitlists, as far as I know.


    I think we're approaching the bump limit; Worth archiving and starting a new one?
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)23:22 No.15812021
    >>15812005

    ....How can you tell?
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)23:25 No.15812071
    >>15812014

    Archive request sent. Vote here
    >http://chanarchive.org/request_votes

    It's the top thread, with /tg/ in the URL. Just need three votes.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)23:28 No.15812106
    >>15812071

    Voted.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)23:32 No.15812163
    >>15812071

    Two more votes required guys. Just need to go to the link and click the vote button.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)23:34 No.15812195
    >>15812163
    >congrats, this thread has been requested 4 times and will now be archived: http://chanarchive.org/4chan/tg/
    But what happened to sup/tg/?
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)23:35 No.15812208
    >>15812195

    That's a good question.
    >> --W-F-I-- 08/03/11(Wed)23:35 No.15812210
    >>15812071
    Voted.

    Also these Badwrongfunfags Can you Cite which Game says there is No Europe in the fallout universe? Because I have played the everloving shit out of Fallout 1,2 and 3 and a bit of Tactics and none have said that England and such is gonners.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)23:36 No.15812223
    >>15812195

    It's there too. So it's archived at two locations now.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)23:36 No.15812231
    >>15812210
    From my knowledge of their claims, Enclave satellites report that Europe no longer exists.
    I doubt the authenticity of Enclave reports.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)23:40 No.15812286
    If the UK is gone, explain MacRae, Dean Domino and Dr. Mobius.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)23:40 No.15812288
    >>15812231
    Yes. Especially since a Dev talked about GB and said Tenpenny came from there.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)23:40 No.15812297
    >>15812231

    Oxbridge, having discovered the Enclave satellites in orbit, engaged in one of their rare collaborative affairs, to put a 'field' over the UK which would make satellite images of the area worthless and show an uninhabited wasteland.

    There, done.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)23:42 No.15812318
    >>15812286
    Dean Domino was alive before the war..
    Also was Dr. Mobius.
    Don't know who MacRae is.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)23:43 No.15812336
    >>15812318

    Before the w...Have you ANY idea how long after the war the Fallout games are set?

    MacRae was from the first game - he taught unarmed combat. Scottish.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)23:46 No.15812382
    >>15812336
    Yes, did you actually play Dead Money or Old World Blues?
    Dean Domino has been trapped in the casino since the bombs fell. He is a ghoul.
    Dr. Mobius was alive working at Big MT before the bombs fell. Probably already a disembodied brain, at that point.
    Also it's very much possible for someone to seem something yet be born in America: Personally I have trouble believing that a Scotsman went from Scotland to California at the time of Fallout 1.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)23:49 No.15812435
    >>15812382

    Alright, you got me.

    But MacRae and Tenpenny, well

    http://www.1up.com/features/fallout-3-afterthoughts?pager.offset=2

    Just after the picture of the Brahmin, question about Tenpenny.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)23:51 No.15812466
    >>15812435
    Yeah, Tenpenny is confirmed as from the UK. Pretty crazy that he managed to cross the Atlantic in my opinion but oh well.
    >> Anonymous 08/03/11(Wed)23:56 No.15812543
    >>15812466

    Well, from the looks of things across the games, ocean levels have dropped somewhat; Also, there are working aircraft here and there.
    >> Anonymous 08/04/11(Thu)06:52 No.15815733
    OP here, woke up in the morning expecting this to have 404ed. Thanks to everyone for you help, this has been an excellent brainstorming topic! I'll try and get back to you once I've run the game...



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