I'm in the game, but not a musketeer, I fly for the Kattes.

>>14874507

That you Sophie you crazy Frog?

I haul trash.

>Simple interdiction op
>Get a call to assist pic related
>Bomb the fuck out of insurgents, celebrate by engaging bandit choppers
>One F-5 slammed by a Stinger, one Scooter flipped into the deck
>MEANWHILE!
>Remaining fighters hit the convoy, destroy an armoured car
>Strafing run results in few hits
>Close to winchester in a target rich environment
>Still got a chopper to deal with


Dammit dicelog....

>>14874630

that seriously sucks. I hope the witch lands safely and the rest of the mission is alright.

>>14874630

I *might* say bad things about the dicelog, but I have to rely on it, so I won't until I'm ash in the smoldering gravel.

I'm just a lowly mud-stomper, but things are getting started in Dirt & Mercs! Missions are selected, companies are loaded up, and maps have been provided. It's a little intimidating having made a character, invested funds into his team, and now we're about to go into very hostile territory with the notorious dicelog-gods looking over us.

What's been going on in the air of late, my (hopefully) winged friends?

>>14874693
...you know, in addition to what's been covered here >>14874630.

Bump with ARMY Sergent wants to flyyyyyyy!

>>14874918

"He wants to be a ballerina? That's my dream!"

>>14874607
That's me!

McCleach stumbles across the Tarmac towards the Hangar, "Whazz all youz wanekers doin outz at thiz hour!" The smell of alcohol is excessive, it's clear McCleach had been at Voodoo, probably since lunchtime. He turns in the direction everyone is looking, "Oi, YOU FUCKING COMMISH BASTARDS, KEEP IT FUCKINGZ DOWN, Mans got te gitz is facking sleep! SHHhhhhhzz!" he continues, holding a finger to his lips and trying futilely to get the Antonovs to make less noise. "I SAID KEEP IT DOWN!" he shouts, throwing a bottle in the general direction of the noise, as the last Antonov shuts down, the whine of its turboprops echoing one last time across the airfield. "Thatz better, fucking bloody red bastards. No rezpect for decent folkszzzz-" McCleach never finishes the thought, collapsing in front of the hangar, deep in a drunken slumber.

Anyone else think that the musketeers should just do a gun run on Weaver and be done with it?

I mean, he just cost them a plane.

>>14874730

Well Swarte finished their mission but I don't think whatshisname, the flight lead of the Lucky Guns(?) was entirely appreciative of being spared. He seems like an alright guy surrounded by jerkwads, but even then I think he felt a sense of responsibility to his flight. There exists that possibility that the Katten might be seeing him again?


Not sure where I put the "Why can't I hold all these bombs?" variant of this pic...

>>14875044
Killing him would actually be cheaper then paying his severance fee. And you could collect on his insurance.

>>14875073
He'll be member number four of Hell's Black Aces. Just you wait and see.

>>14875044

Naas. Shit happens and that's about the gist of it. PnM has a pretty good list of planes scrubbing going. Weaver's isn't going to be the last, I'm sure.

>>14875080
>>14875044
Hey, fuck you.

Frankly, I think Musketeer should scrub the mission at this point. Cut their losses and go home.

>>14875127
Just saying, I'm not sure that over at Griffin we'd let that sort of thing go unpunished.

>>14875128
The Helicopter has to die though. That's imperative.

I'm more concerned about what's going on back at the base tbh.

>>14875141

I don't think you're with Griffin... >__>

>>14875258
Yeah, the Griffin pilots don't show up to the forum to be up to date.

>>14875298

I've been holding fast for a while TBH. You're that butthurt/impatient guy from a night or two ago, aren't you?

>>14875316
OH GOD MY EYES!

>>14875331
Let's be honest, the Musketeers seem to be the only flight with their shit together at the moment.

>>14875370
Musketeer flight is combat ineffective at this point.

>>14875316
Look, I KNOW it's just a plane.

But if it was a girl, she'd be one incredibly hot Czech teaser in a skimpy bikini.

I. . erm. . I'll be on my way.

>>14875370

thatslikeyouropinionman.mpg

Anyway, I'm just gonna move along now. Thanks for stopping by!

>>14875370

I like musketeer flight, but their mission is falling apart.

>>14875141
Hey hey hey, we over at Griffin are a professional group.

We DON'T shot our own.

>>14875425
MiG-29s are so tits. When they made the MiG-35 it was like teaching the sexy Russian exchange student how to pole dance.

http://dcn.or.kr/a1/53292
Here's some really nice, high-res photos of MiGs. The site has right-clicking disabled, but if you're using Firefox you can go into Page Info, Media tab and save the images that way. I just don't want to spam a bunch of pics and cause any thread derailment. :P

Witch here.

It´s 11:00 AM in the morning, just got up. Oh boy, let´s go see the newest update for Musketeers!

...

FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>14875807
Did someone say MiG-35?

>>14874630
>F-5

Who fucking bought that? Show your fucking face. Explain yourself.

>Close to winchester in a target rich environment

GEE, I FUCKING WONDER WHY

>F-5

OH, THAT'S WHY.

>>14876801

Witch here. Dravot and me bought a Tiger II while Nick and our flight lead bought F-16 Falcons for the first mission. We lost a Falcon to a fucking lucky gun shot from a Mig-21, and a Tiger II to a botched landing roll.

So we started this mission with a Falcon, my Tiger and two Skyhawks. We met ground forces in need of assistance, so we did just that, then two choppers showed up. I blew one up with a missile, tried to stay on course to hit the other one next turn, but he was in just that sweet spot between being too close for my missiles, and too far for my guns. Cue two missiles up my tailpipe.

Then, Dealer, the Skyhawk following me, tried a hard turn at height 1 (I think). FAiling maneuver rolls normally means you lose height. He also failed the re-roll.

So... yeah...

I blame it on my character being French. After so long without a proper fight...


That said, I´m still kind of disappointed with the fact that a chopper could try and lock me for missile launch while I was very close and above it, then it did a perfect 180º in a turn and locked.

>>14876847
>and two Skyhawks

... much better. Much, much better. All is forgiven.

>Then, Dealer, the Skyhawk following me, tried a hard turn at height 1 (I think). FAiling maneuver rolls normally means you lose height. He also failed the re-roll.

Shee-it. Did he auger in right away, or did he get a chance to punch out after he stalled?

>I´m still kind of disappointed with the fact that a chopper could try and lock me for missile launch while I was very close and above it, then it did a perfect 180º in a turn and locked.

Yeah, don't underestimate CAS aircraft. Anything that can carry a heat-seeking warhead can rape your shit given half a chance. Both choppers and slow fixed-wing CAS aircraft have limited mobility, but their turn rate is generally much better then yours - you can almost always count on them being able to point their guns at you. Since they don't have any better options, they'll eagerly play chicken - either with their guns (which are bigger then yours) or with front-aspect heat-seekers. CAS aircraft generally get shot at by OVER 9,000 MANPAD SAMS, so they've got great defenses against IR stuff, both jammers and in basic design.

They might seem easy to kill, but... yeah. Come in fast to take your shot, so you can extend out of their range by the time they get their nose 'round.

>>14876919
>turn rate

More importantly, turn radius.

>>14876919
>MANPADS
Whoever thought up that acronym must be shot.

>>14876936
Cockpit.

>>14876936
>>14876963

>>14876963
a cockpit with a joystick no less.

I'd throttle her joystick, if you know what I mean.

>>14875096
Please don't give Sukhoi/Khornelog more OH SHI- ideas.

On a serious note, what happened to the muskets sucks majorly. failing a ACM roll of 5 or under with rerolls then an airmanship roll with 7 of less is pretty bad.

We here at Swart are doing well, just picked up a F-14A and are looking at at early Flanker by next month at the latest.

A few of us have started a wiki with the idea of collecting all the scatted info in one place.

http://planesandmercs.wikia.com/wiki/Planes_and_Mercs_Wiki

>>14877030

So how are you guys playing these games? On IRC? Using maptools of some sort?

>>14877059
PbP on the forums.

>Get off of a 13 hour workshift.
>My Marines and Maintenance Control driving me insane.
>Weather is shit.
>Log-in.
>All of my hate.

Fuck this shit. I'm tired, irrational, and pissed off, and at this point, Sabine is too. Get the fucking rape train ready Dicelog, because Hamlet ain't in the fucking mood you piece of shit.

>Hamlet'sfw

>>14876801
Hey you got a problem with the F-5?

>>14876801
The F-5 is a hell of a good buy to complement the little bomb truck that could skyhawks. they go for a mere 450 credits. thats for a TL 5 airframe with 4 store points and 2 pylons.

>>14877095
Hamlet tires of Dicelog's bullshit.

>Pic Related

>>14875096

Considering the Kattes got their CSAR bird to drop him off in Saudi Arabia, I'm guessing he's going to his Iranian paymasters for an F-14 to hunt for some Kattes.

Subcampaign in ace combat style is prepping too.. Missiles and enemies.. everywhere. Fuck physics!

>>14877083
I hope that's not our Tomcat.

>>14878056
just a random profile off the net.

Welp, seems that Griffin are entering the Hurt Locker now. Or rape coffin.

>>14878321
Dicelog makes anything a rape coffin. ANYTHING.

I honestly wonder what musket are going to do. I mean, they have one AGM left, and after that are reduced to being annoying. Other then killing that helo for posterity (and to save Weaver) I think they should bug out.

Fucking hell, the amount of damage taken from ground fire seems to be insane in these games.

>>14878519

Actually, Spiff's level of damage is quite reasonable. If he makes his airmanship check he's all good.

>>14874466
I don't know what type of plane that is but I want one.

>>14878609

I didn't pay too much attention to OPs pic but now I'm curious as well.

WHAT IS THAT?

Yak-130.

>>14878692

New Yak plane? I love those guys. Most underrated Russian design Bureau

>>14878745
I think Myaschiev is the most underated design bureau, or maybe Vympel.

>>14879018

Those guys usually make Missiles right?

>>14878692
I thought it was some kind of loaded up trainer from the look of the tail and how high the back seat is. Has some loose similarities to the Hawk 128 and the T-45c.

On the topic of Tigers, I don't think you'd be able to get an X-29 in P&M since only two were ever made, but could you get an X-29 in P&M even though only two were ever made? XD

I love the thing and wish it'd become a production variant like the Tiger II, Freedom Fighter, and the Tiger Shark which also never saw service.

>>14880190
I think Sukhoi said it was possible.

>>14877167
>>14877349
>you have something against the F-5?

YES. Mind you, its horrifically irrational and could safely be ignored. As F-22 fag pointed out, they're very cheap and quite survivable for the price...

>Fucking hell, the amount of damage taken from ground fire seems to be insane in these games

... but not at low-level. Especially at low level. Which is my main dislike; it's too damn small to have much staying power in a fight, (as the Muskets are now learning) and there's little structure to soak up hits from hostile guns. It reminds me of the Oscar; a fragile, fast little knife-fighter. With wing-loading of 70 pounds/foot, an F-5 turns like a dervish, but her power/weight (and acceleration, and climb-rate) simply can't match that of larger fighters like the F-16. (Roll rate, the most important manuverability measure, I cannot speak to, since no reference book on the face of the fucking earth seems to know, or care, about roll rate.) It basically boils down to being a fragile knife-fighter with limited oomph, and my philosophy tends towards... well, pic related.

The stores aren't THAT limited, mind you, unless you want to move mud. But the guns vex me. Two Pontiac M39s with 280rds/gun firing at 1,500 rounds/minute is... okay. Volume of fire is important for scoring lethal hits on jets that ghost through your reticule at 600 MPH, and this gun combo puts out half of what the M-61 does (6,000 rounds/minute.) On the plus side, having two guns is insurance against a jam, which could leave you toothless.

tl;dr planefag is a barbarian cowboy who flies Jugs and Phantoms, ignore his hurr.

>>14880190

ITS WINGS ARE SWEPT FORWARD

THAT MEANS IT'S THE BEST THING EVER

IT'S LIKE JESUS WITH AN AFTERBURNER

BECAUSE THE WINGS GO FORWARD YO

>>14880557
That's what my logic was too!!!

>>14874693
>Dirt & Mercs!

Get on your hands and knees, and beg Sukhoi to let you buy these, and their huge stockpile of unused Shillegah missiles, at a US Military fire sale:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M551_Sheridan

Parachute-droppable. Just forget the whole "gun-missile" thing and use it as a missile launcher.

>>14880674
Dirt and Mercs isn't run by Suk

>>14880756

What rules are you using?

>>14880674
Low Altitude Parachute Extraction System. Huh, never heard of this LAPES before. I assume they just throw the 'chute out the back of the plane and allow it to pull the payload out. But at that altitude and the speeds involved, isn't there high risk of damage to the vehicle and possibility of it tumbling when it hits the ground?

Asking because it might be a useful method of deployment in future D&M missions.

>>14881023
LAPES is dangerous for everyone. A lot of planes crash doing LAPES, and a lot of equipment gets destroyed more often then not.

>>14881042
Didn't even consider the sudden, massive change in overall weight and center of mass. Eff all that noise.

>>14881023
Actually done in the movie The Living Daylights with a jeep out of an unidentified cargo plane (C-130 possibly?) full of explosives.

I'm getting flashbacks.

>>14881157
>>14881042
>>14881023
LAPES: for when you absolutely have no other option.

Alternatively, the French Foreign Legion, the only assholes crazy enough to try it.

>>14880995

Home-grown and still in development. I use d8s and d10s. D8s for morale, handling special situations (planting explosives, field repairs, that kind of stuff) and a few more things. D10s for the shooting phase. You roll as many d10s as fire rates the weapons in a given squad have, and you have to get a result under the size of the unit you are trying to hit. Big infantry squads and vehicles carrying passengers are the easiest targets.

>>14881391
>Alternatively, the French Foreign Legion, the only assholes crazy enough to try it.

well, there are the ghurkas.

apparently in the 60's, the ghurkas were apprached about doing airborne insertion in a warzone, I think, vietnam/cambodia. (cant remember exactly). the Ghurka senior commanders sat for some time, thinking about this, and finally said, yes, the ghurkas would be able to do this, if it was very low-level.

the military brass reaction? well, "very" low-level flight might be dangerous, the parachute might not open in time

the gurkhas?

Oh! we get parachutes? in that case, yes, we can do it at any altitude!

only Ghurkas would be insane enough to willingly consider jumping out of aircraft at speed, without parachutes.

pic simply 'cos its awesome. Obviously shopped, you can see pixels in the camo.

>>14881607

Oh the Gurhkas. The only people not to get the memo in WW1 and were in Baghdad by Christmas drinking sangria off the ass of burkha'd ladies whilst the rest of us were up to our necks in mud, blood and bad poetry.

My next char... A Gurkha who accidentally a pilot...

>>14881607
Facepalmed, read it again, and did a double facepalm.

On the other hand, they probably didn't have too much experience in jumping out of planes or even fast moving vehicles at that time.

>>14881724

...he accidentially a whole pilot?

That's a good way to a whole pilot; accidentally. I'm picturing an Indiana Jones type thing... Take a Gurkhas take a base, about to get overrun, guy gets into a plans and uses it's guns. Somehow takes off, bails out and crashes the plane into the middle of the enemy forces. Lives, and thinks, "Wow. I want to do that again!"

There's kanji in the fucking captcha. WTF?

>>14882102
Replace plans with plane. He wasn't piloting a bunch of blueprints and maps in poster tubes. :P

this does raise the question, can a ghurka pilot mount a kukuri on a wingtip and try to get into hand-to-hand combat?

will the answer of "no" stop him anyway?

>>14882123
You just gave me a terrible idea. This might take a few...

>>14882155
Ok, I apologize in advance for how crummy of a sketch this is...

I think this is fairly self-explanatory. Sorry for my 4th grader drawing skills at the moment.

Anyone else suspicious of Warhound?

Warhound a Firestorm mission?

>Oh! we get parachutes? in that case, yes, we can do it at any altitude!

I literally exploded in laughter. Full-out, HAW-HAW-HAW style laughter. Because that is EXACTLY what the Gurkhas would say. I have NO DOUBT that they actually did that. Not after Bishnu and the Forty Thieves. Or Dipprasad and the Thirty Taliban. I have no goddamn doubt at all.

Some drawfaggotry for you.

Name the Mirage variant.

>>14883037

Group of Thuds and Tornados out of fucking nowhere. Here's hoping for some iron on that convoy.


Also, gonna have to pimp out the Ace Combat quick game thingy- it's open to anyone, it's just name a character, roll up stats and money, and get to killing. ATM it's just Emil Wilheim, a Belkan Draken driver whose last combat achievement was not dying after being shot down in '95.

>>14883749
Kfir?

Well, I've learned my lesson.

Minutes after making fun of the Musketeers for smashing their planes into the ground, Spiff gets hit by some AAA fire and rolls a motherfuckin 10 on his airmanship check.

Life sucks.

Do not taunt the dynamite dicelog, which apparently responds to Karma.

>>14885126

Well at least I did some damage while I was takin it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Q0Ulciz6fE


All that time spent collecting those little Tabasco bottles and nothing to cook on the fire...

>>14884317
I thought the Kfir had canards forward of the intakes, and at first I thought this one didn't have any. I suppose I'll go with a Mirage III based off this.

>>14885472
>>14884317

Answer's in the filename.

Pipes drop...

...but who dies?

>>14885605

EVERYONE

>>14885605
In the world of Firestorm metal pipes always win. They simply dont give a fuck what you are flying.

F-16? Chump change. F-14? Try harder next time you topgun wanna be. F-22? PPPFFFFT.

also meanwhile at the somewhat sinister OKB hanger

"As you continue observing the OKB flightline, you spot several aircraft being towed out of the large hangar complex. Two massive MiG-31s dominate the apron, along with a MiG-29 fullback. Another mule tows a single SU-35 from the hangar, lining it up alongside the MiGs. The aircraft are visible under the high intensity lighting on the apron, their mottled brown camo pattern and blue underside plain to see.

Ground crews rush to service the planes, racks of weapons brought out from ammo holds being hoisted onto pylons and mounts. Alamos, Archers and Adders are slung from underneath the wings of the aircraft. Large missiles are strapped to the belly of both of the Foxhounds, although it is hard to make out their type based on the angle. The work is being done at a frenetic pace, and off in the distance you can see several fuel bowsers pushing towards the OKB area, at least seven of them by your quick count."

>ohshi

>>14885594
I would never have gotten that. Didn't even know there was a Mirage Pantera. :P

>>14885802

Kestrel defecting to rebels confirmed.

All flights confirmed for being fucked.

>>14886214
Odd considering Kestrels rep.

>>14883749
>>14885594
>>14885605

Hey drawfag, are you on the forums?

>>14885802
Hmm...the Russian birds we already knew about from the OKB NPC entries on the Master Sheet, but I wonder what they're up to with all those transports?

Possibly moving base to another area?

New equipment?

>>14883512
its a 100% true story. happened in indonesia though, not vietnam.

i wonder if you could survive a fall 100ft into a marsh at speed though.

>>14888001
Defection to the rebels, relocation to Colombia are my two hot theories

Just moving in new equipment doesn't make any sense. They are fueling and arming there top flight to the teeth and are moving up more fuel pumps for what I presume are the rest of their A/C.

I have just realized something:

The F-22 and the Silent Eagle are really closely priced.

F-22:
Cost - $3,872
Maintenance cost - $155

F-15SE:
Cost - $3,840
Maintenance cost - $154

>>14889209
Then again, the F-15SE is expected to cost up to $100 million dollars per unit.

>>14889209


I think the rarity/how many where made of the unit is factored in as well. Also I would point out that finding a F-22 on the market will be harder than picking up a SE conversion kit + late model F-15E or a new build SE

>>14889237

But the prices are basically made for game balancing rules, not real world prices. Otherwise, the FC-1 would be cheap as hell.

>>14889520
I know. I know.

But it still bugs me that the HAL Tejas is marginally cheaper than the JF-17/FC-1 in the game.

I'm happy that I could pick up a Silent Eagle at all.

How are you all doing for your purchase options?

SHort Story Contest now on! looks like yet another way to earn some extra cash for your warfund.

>>14890335
I'll give Sukhoi credit, this game has a strong economic aspect to it, and these 'side quests' for dough are interesting if nothing else.

We have one flight renting out Bomber services, another leasing planes...

Gah. I had written up a post for P&M on my laptop to get back into the game after school is over. I play James Kennedy and hope to be dealing you all missiles or rentable airframes, soon. Considering all the East/West missile conversion kits, not to mention airframe loss from dicelog hate, I expect business to do well.

However, Forum ate my post when laptop decided to reload the page. Silly me, I didn't type it up into notepad. I did copy it to clipboard, but then I accidently copied over it.
Le sigh. Time to type it again and rejoin.

>>14890335
Man, I need to get vendredi back on the forums.

>>14890159
I'm looking forward to getting a JF-17, that said it'd wouldn't cost too much more to get a Eurofighter.

Of course I could just get a Gripen or an F-16C.

I wish the F-16E Block 60 or the J-10A/B were on the list, though.

>>14890559
Try having to re-do a couple month's worth of ypur flight's finances because your laptop went kaput, you had to restore it to an earlier date, and your last back-up was back in December.

I lost all the Planes and Mercs files I had saved on my desktop folder. And I didn't back them up on my external hard drive.

>>14890159
Well I just nabbed up a F-14A. So im set for a long, long, long time.

Warfrog will be getting Su-27 by next month. Bonnie was interested in a Sukhoi S-56 LFA, our boss (Playboy) is looking at buying something we can make into a airborne command post/AAR/AWAC.

>>14878249
>Swedish Eurofighter
>What the fuck am I looking at
>That's not a Viggen

>>14890602
Get a SAAB Awac bird.

>>14890573
Yeah, where the fuck is he?

>>14890335
Oh hell yes! Not that I am going to write anything, but this can only go well for us.

>>14890602
The F-14 is such an overrated platform.

>>14891481
I dunno mate. Excellent radar, payload, range and while it can't turn like the F-16 it can still dogfight when it has to.

Also its performance in the Iranian Air Force was nothing short of phenomenal.

That said why do you think its overrated?

>>14891558
It's a bloated unreliable product of the Navy's ill-fated TFX program.

>>14891624
Compared to the F-111B it was a godsend.

>>14890559

I was wondering where you went! Good to see our resident IRA gun runner back in the game.

>>14890159

Other than some cheap starting airframes, Griffin isn't going to be making any big purchases for a while. Just hot rodding our current rides.

I still think our ultimate goal should be a flight completely made of Gripens.

I think sukhoi is a douche playing favourites.

>>14891992
You sound like a dick.

>>14891558
50+ maintainence hours / hour of flying. Choice between ex-Iranian airforce airframes with fire control stuck in the 1970's or ex-USN airframes that are beaten to hell from carrier service.

>>14891992

Chill man. No need to get means if Sukhoi is helping a flight that's getting fucked over and over again by dicelog. That's just good GMing.

Swart is done, Musket is on Turn 17, and the other two flights are on Turn 3 and four respectively. WTF?

>>14892815

If all the flight's active pilots and Sukhoi are on the forum at the same time, they can blow through four or five turns an hour. It's just a matter of timing.

>>14892815
It comes down to coordination, some flights are way better at it then others. Every flight seems to have "That Guy" who is always late posting.

>>14892815
It is called, and I do apologize for using such a blunt expression, playing favorites.

>>14892854
Well, there's around 20 people in the game, I imagine some of them are 'that guy'

I think Swart is very slick though, they have a dedicated boss, a good team that seems pretty active, and a generally good playstyle that seems to help them through missions with speed and ease.

I wish my own flight was a little faster though, since we're in the 'late' flights at the moment.

What really cheeses me, is Suk puts out rewards for being quick/efficient, and we never get them because we are slow and talk about everything.

>>14892815
You have a group of players. One of them hasn't read the rules and is always late to games.

Would you start to favor others more?

>>14892878
I think it's more those flights had all players posting consistently, the other flights don't. I know that musket has a super fast post time.

We all know who we should be hating.

>>14892961
It Hungers...

I can't speak for any other flight, but mine has members that either have limited access to the net, or limited time to do so, so we can't bang out 3-4 turns a night like some other flights can.

I don't feel like Sukhoi is playing favorites. She's just doing what she can when she can for the game. That's all anyone can do really.

>>14892854
>>14892878

It's a play by post. The speed is variable based on how many people are around to get their posts in during a time frame when Sukhoi is around to process them. We're all busy at one point or another and that's one of the advantages of PbP games. People can post their turn when they have the opportunity.
Yes, that means sometimes it goes slow. Remember when there was recent down time while Sukhoi was plugging away at work over the LIbya stuff? Similar case for other people. It may not be some kind of national or world crisis, but people do get busy and may not have access to the net.

Our hired bomber guy is suddenly away with no net access beyond email 3 times a day. Sure it sucks, but we got our heads up and we'll move on.

I mean it's not like we suddenly don't have hot running water, a roof over our heads, and are being shot at in real life. Most of us on here anyway...

>>14893053
FIRE THE SLOW ONES! You are mercenary, not a charity!

>>14893126
>I mean it's not like we suddenly don't have hot running water, a roof over our heads, and are being shot at in real life. Most of us on here anyway...

Speak for yourself, I live in Oakland.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQhtzeFp_V0

>>14893156

You live in Oakland? What part?
I did say most of us, by the way

>>14893156
I'm not sure what is worse, the video of pregnant ladies fighting in a burger king parking lot, or the comment section below it.

>>14893156
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQhtzeFp_V0

I'm crying, partly with laughter, partly for the human race.

this was khorne log earlier.

Loved that it used the bone dice for how bad Spiff got whacked...

What a great omen..

Warhound is now my favourite Squadron.

>>14896460
I know they are all NPCs, but it just screams "Professional"

Who is Warhound?

Hey, as a fan of the original OP's stuff, and having been sadden by Mission 15's ending....
Has anyone heard from him recently?

Also: Any possibly open games, or games starting up for someone completely new to the game/system?

>>14896799

there's colombia, but IDK what's going on about that.

I run an on-again off-again campaign here locally, but since my HDD dies, I lost all the work I'd done on the system.

>>14896799

Well there's an Ace Combat one on the forums, using modded AW C21 rules, plus Firestorm Columbia (nothing much on that) Libya (full, and again not much doing) and another that's being worked on...

Dammit, why the fuck won't Sukhoi open up another flight for Firestorm?

>>14892402
>50+ maintainence hours / hour of flying

That's about average for a modern twin-engined jet fighter. It ain't a fucking car.

>>14897572

Talk to KD about servicing Mehrine legacy Bugs... I'm sure he'll give you the skinny in between bouts of random profanity.

>>14897410

GM thyself!

>>14897410

Because she's already handling 20 players while developing a game.

Common sense would indicate she has her hands full.

>>14894403
>>14892961
Can the general public view the dicelogs? Or is it a privatized group invite system?

>>14898032

The dicelog is an invite only system unfortunately.

Although the dicelog is invite only, the firestorm forum is public access.

One cool thing I noticed about the Firestorm game, is that with the entry bar set 'high' so to speak, it has kept out what I would call problem gamers. Judging from past experience, the comunity is helpful to a point, but if you are retarded they just shun you until you go away.

>>14898592
lol I know I stayed away from P&M due to how much of the lingo you have to know going into it and how complex it is. I still sure as hell love following along with it though. :)

>>14898696

If you admit to not know what it means when a frag package is spiked, winchester with bingo+1 and the ECM is OTL, then easy money someone will run it down, or just link you to a sprawling document full of lingo.

It's only really for flavour, if you want to use general terms, nobody will bite your head off. Case in point- Buns, Cajun mechanic, now in a ChiCom Fishbed. Has never used any 'official' fighter jock terminology, aside from the profanity of course.

>inforom session.

Yeah, pretty much, Captcha knows what it's all about

>>14899082
Yeah, see, I just felt like I was watching that part of Austin Powers with the "Queen's English." XD

>>14898696

In game? Most people keep the military lingo to a minimum. It's not really necessary to play the game. Maybe when Sukhoi does dialogue for NPC flights you have a problem but more often than not it's easy to understand.

>>14897572
>>14897605

Legacy Bugs (at least in my unit at the moment) are averaging about 20-25 hours per flight hour. Also consider this is the results of a full month's analysis and counts dumb shit like phase maintenance and us totally earfucking the Maintenance Action Forms (MAFs) when we are filling them out because times don't always jive (and there are plenty of times, documentation in my world could make your head spin.)

Compared to the M1A2 Abrams which I heard in teh Marines are getting about 40 or so hours of attention per hour of operation.

Not too shabby. To be honest a down gripe is about 8-12 real hours of work. Say removing, replacing, and running up and testing a Servo.

Shit to be honest we do fly our planes a lot. Usually they can go up, come down, get a Turnaround (Post Flight) inspection by the Plane Captain (PC) and be setup for the next flight that day (usually within 2-3 hours of landing time).

Also we have Hotpits/Hotseats. They go in, fuel up with engines running in "The Pits" (Fuel pits), come to line, get chained down, shut down an engine, aircrew hops out, new guy(s), hop in, crossbleed start the engine, final check, roll off to another flight.

Of course all of that is barring down gripes and BLIN (Built-in Logic Inspection) Codes. Which are codes that tell us shit on the servos/computers/whatever isn't working right and refers us to our wonderful publications (Pubs or properly "Maintenance Instruction Manuals aka MIMs) for further troubleshooting.

Yes, Naval/Marine aviation maintenance somewhat summarized. But there is so much more to it... Soooooo much more.

>>14898696
The Lingo isn't the entry bar, it's the requirement to make a fully fleshed out character.

>>14901857
The player content is pretty well done I think.

Damn, all the musketeers survived.

>>14904520
Survived they did, but the cost was huge.

29% damage to their F-16C
85% damage to their slightly upgraded Tiger II
One destroyed Skyhawk F
One injured pilot. pilot's extraction is unconfirmed.

its going to be interesting to see how they recover from this.

The funny thing is that I thought they where going to kick arse from the get go. 2 F-16Cs, 2 Tiger IIs. They had the airframes and the right people, but dicelog wanted blood....

>>14904701
It was always a risk to buy those hyper planes early on, since they represented a big investment.

>>14904701
Probably going to pick up a phantom E or IAI upgrade and go out as a 3 bird flight next mission.
Or maybe buy another two tiger 2's cuz fuck it, why not.

>perfect impalist
captcha you'r freaking me out man

Dammit, the game now even has Trivia! And the trivia is relevant, and the prizes are GM rewards of munitions.

SUKHOI STOP BEING AWESOME.
/or let me play.

>>14904779
>It was always a risk to buy those hyper planes early on, since they represented a big investment.

We could have bought cheap planes and gone through pilots like mayonaise in a fat guy´s sandwich... but I´m not sure that would have been any better.

Thing is, we don´t even know if future missions are going to pay more than they currently do, and what the relation risk/reward is going to be.

>>14904866
captcha is the anti dice log. It is trying to guide you. Listen to its wisdom.

>khz) ecresp

I shall ponder this wisdom captcha.

>>14904779

True, still. 2 F-16s mate, I dont think anyone could resist.

>>14905001
I think the only thing that Dicelog likes is the -21. Unless its creeks F-7.

>knowledge accure
0_o

I keep seeing this and I have no idea what it is.

Is it like Skirmishquest with planes?

>>14905130
http://s1.zetaboards.com/PlanesAndMercs/forum/1677055/

Start here. Read, enjoy.

>>14905148
This... doesn't really tell me anything. Just that it's a forum game. There's no "New reader section", just an archive which I'm not really interested in slogging through.

>>14905200

Firestorm section is probably the best place to start. Planes and Mercs is a play by post game with fighter jets. and a dice log that hungers for PC blood.

http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Mercenaries_and_planes

the 1d4chan article is a bit scattered, but it has Barons early stories that got us hooked.

http://planesandmercs.wikia.com/wiki/Planes_and_Mercs_Wiki

A few of us are working on this to cut down on the amount of slogging though threads for info.

>>14905200
About a year or so ago somebody by the name of "OP Again" asked /tg/ for advice for an upcoming game where he was to play a mercenary fighter pilot.

Some of the resident planeheads helped him out and it took off. At some point their DM pissed off to god-knows-where and the same planeheads that were interested in the first place decided to create forum to recreate the custom system OP Again and his group were using.

Now there's a play by post sort of beta testing of the system going on, and occasional threads about it on /tg/

...Ah. THanks for the actual info.

Sadly, I'm not much of a plane buff, so I'll have to pass. I've just been looking for something to take up my time since I got banned from SQ for... I can't remember, just that it was shameful.

I'm honestly surprised this is still around with my dissertation on aircraft maintenance...

Should go to /k/ and be like "Ask a Naval Aviation Maintainer anything..."

Anyways, we made it back, even bringing back the Tiger II cuz Witch has Balls of Fuckin' Steel and it needs fucking drawfagged immediately.

In addition...

Who thinks Hamlet gets her dream IAI 2000 Phantom? (or can we just "call" it a 2020 Terminator puh-lease?) I doubt we'll have the money after repairs, replacements, incidentals, and leaving a buffer for ordnance next mission.

Wish I could whip a story up fast, I have an idea for one...

>Sabine has one of her father's journals. In it is a draft of a submission he was going to make to Air Action Weekly. It will be written from his POV with her editing and comments. Could be fun to write if I can find the time... :(

Rumors abound of a possible dual campaign taking place in the Indian/Pacific Oceans around Australia and Southeast Asia with the escalation of the 2015 Thai-Cambodian conflict, which has fallen off, but both countries seem to be pulling allies closer and hiring PMC's like its crazy...

I don't know anything about this.

>*COUGH*

Debrief for Musketeer is up...

Fucking Warhound, I knew there was a catch.

>>14906090
I like how they quasi-failed the mission, but gained reputation for being generally Bros to a ground unit under attack by the enemy.

Get ripped out by your boss for being a good person, but gain much rep for being a bro.

Musketeer is in the wrong PMC, they are way to bro-tier for Eagle Corp.

>>14906186
Eagle Corp seems douchey.

Somehow this feels right.

Net Loss for Musketeer, that's what you get for being...

Heroes.

>>14906186
>>14906455
>douchey

"There's a certain dollar value attached to this operation."
(yes I modified the quote a little)

>>14906775
I like how Eagle Corp seemed more pissed off about them damaging an oil field then strafing civilians.

>>14906787

I guess it's about who that guy needs to answer to on up the chain and whether he'll be bringing home any bacon.

Holy shit! Caddy 12-80 is the fucking man!

>>14907282
Musketeer now has the sweetest ride! Being a bro pays off!

>>14907332

Who knew they do Voodoo.

>five mmundu

That too

>>14907540

OMG! GM FAVORTIIIIIIIIIIIIIISM!

>>14907716
Secondary objectives dude, Musketeer essentially failed their primary, but they found and completed a side quest with a kick ass reward.

>>14907763

LOGIC WILL NOT COUNTERACT MY CONSPIRACY THEORY!

>>14907843

Their replacement plane is a Canadian aircraft that was a replacement for another Canadian aircraft that the GM (also Canadian) feels sore about the cancellation there of...


THE LINES ARE CONNECTING!

>>14907901
Have you ever asked about her opinion on the 'ideal aircraft for Canada?"'

I think the "Weapons Locker" thread is more of GM favoritism.

>>14908011

Eh. I don't know gobs about aircraft but I won a round.
I'd ask you people to chill out but I doubt that'll happen.

>>14908208
Which one did you win?

>>14908233

Take a guess? :3

>>14908352
No idea.

>>14908639

Got a couple of sparrows out of it...

Also, Sukhoi has split the A-10 Warthog into A-10A Warthog and the new shiny +1 Tech Level A-10C Warthog.

Trivia confirmed for best thing ever.

So far Swart has won most of our warload for our next mission.

Also Musketeers should transfer to a PMC that appreciates bro tier actions.

I hate the Trivia, with google it's trivial as a challenge.

>>14909688

That's why Sukhoi is now using image questions as well as deliberately misspelling words to through off googlers.

>>14911779
I can confirm that tineye reverse image lookup was no help for the Douglas X-3. My standards methods are useless here. I was whamming wikipedia US Reconassiance aircraft pretty hard. My fault for not reading the experimental planes.

Trivia is fun! Breeds interflight rivalry

>>14909488
Is it bad that if before the Hornet itself I notice:
1. The NAN-4 Nitrogen Servicing Cart.
2. The A/M27T-5 Hydraulic Generator "Jenny"
3. The Hangar Doors
4. The Hangar itself.
5. I KNOW THAT HANGAR! Hangar 2 in Miramar. I want to say this was when the Navy was there? So that may not be a NAN-4B as those are relatively new and is most likely the NAN-4.

Also: Sparkly Clean Landing Gear and Paint job
>Idon'tthinksotim.jpg
>Though I understand its a fresh coat of paint.
No Puddles of JP5/Hyd Fluid on the deck
>Yeah some poor Navy Airman had to clean that shit up can't post pictures of safety hazards...

TL:DR I worked in that hangar when I was with VMFA-314, probably a decade after this picture was possibly taken. In those VERY same workspaces and just nostalgia'd like a mofo.

>>14909326
Is this adding on all the wacky upgrades the USAF keep saying they're going to do?

>>14912664
"A-10As updated under the incremental Precision Engagement (PE) program."

Looks like they all ready are?

http://www.airforce-magazine.com/MagazineArchive/Pages/2008/June%202008/0608fade.aspx

>Ask a Naval Aviation Maintainer Anything

What's the flight/maintenance hours like on the 14D?

>>14912676
>Old Busted -> New Hotness
It's nice to see the USAF doing something with what it has instead of just coming up with newer, increasingly expensive ways of doing the same job.

On that note, I can't wait to see the AIM-9X/N get going. Then I can finally beat Mobius 1 at his own game.

>>14912679
Wasn't in in those days and I'm a Marine. I still work under the OPNAVINST 4790.2A (aka The NAMP or Naval Air Maintenance Program). From what I heard in my last command working with some Navy guys (Its a fleet replacement squadron), the older hands loved them, BUT they were maintenance HOGS in their older days. Apparently, and most especially in the case of the airframes and hydraulics. But to be honest, we're having a hard time with Legacy Hornets. Even with some late fucking Lots. It seems like it wouldn't cost ZOMG so much to at least update the computers/servos so they aren't using late 70's/early 80s technology that seems to FAIL more than it AWESOME!s. Can't give you specific figures on the Tomcat. I'd say probably between 20-30 hours of maintenance per flight hour. Most likely their specials and phase inspections were ridiculous and added a lot of maintenance time though too. So maybe like 25-40?
>>14912708
Dude, you're telling me. My Division Officer was telling me they are a total game changer in how some things work.

http://youtu.be/4g4_jzqBJnA

I have no idea why a flare pod is "Unclassified Media"

Also I am a sad panda at the wanton destruction of Rhinos :(

>>14912748
Or that the flare pod is classified, and not fit for "unclassified media".

>total game changer
I may be wrong, but isn't the 9X supposedly able to launch BACKWARDS by just dropping off the rail and spinning on a dime? Now THAT would be a hell of a game changer.

>>14912748
Look. . .it's better for them to go that way. The German ones were just scrapped unceremoniously.

Also, the ability for short-range missiles to essentially flip in mid-air isn't exactly stop-the-presses material.

>>14912767
Yeah thats what I meant, it was a long 12 hour day at work with more undermanned, overtasked shit. My shop managed to get two jets in an up status and then lost two to down gripes. Go fucking figure. And both of them require lots of troubleshooting. FML. Maybe Electrics can man up and fucking do some work for once in their lives...
>>14912891
It is when your prior air tactics training focused on various aspect shots and this and that. Believe me, the 9X coupled with JHMCS (Jay-hommics as we say it) changes the way they do things, the CATM versions have been out for awhile and the JHMCS mods are rolling in on aircraft. I'm sure 9x on 9x training is being done, because now you can shoot the asshole to your left, many of the impossibles just became possibles, and tactics need to change or you might find yourself dying when you had a perfect shot.

>>14912993
>Jay-hommics
I bet USAF are really pissed off they couldn't shoe-horn that one into some kind of crappy acronym like everything else the US military does.

I'm looking at you, SEALS.

>>14913035
NALCOMIS...

Naval Aviation Logistics Command Operating Maintenance Information System.

Or....

One thousand ways to go insane.

Its the system for MAF documentation which is how we document man hours, order parts, document serialized component removal/installations, document awaiting maintenance times on down MAFs all kinds of shit.

Its the everything. NALCOMIS is essentially that sheet computerized on a tel-net connected host. Inidividual sections. And being something created by the military it sucks dick for rock.

Apparently they have OOMA which is Optimzed something something something. And it actually has a GUI from what I've seen but it gays the shit out of everything and all our little tricks and such are useless.

>>14913035
>SEALS.
Don't you mean NAVSPECWARDEVGRU?

Spiff is still on fire.

>>14912767
>Ability to spin off the rails and hit behind you

Wow, so the US and the west will finally have the same capabilities that the Russian's have had for years with the Archer...

And, the AIM-9X still can't fire under g load, restricted to 7 gs on launch, the Archer can be fired under 12Gs.

kattes confirmed for lucky bastards.

Now have F-14.

Any other Aquila guys on, by chance?

>>14915794
maneuver 5
Speed 28
ACM -2

FUCK TURNING! We'll fly around the world if we miss the first time!

>>14915918
I liked the comment about their payload choice.

1 Sparrow, Six Sidewinders.

Sparrow for the Warning Shot, Sidewinders for the kill.

Anyone seen Vendredi?

Welp, looks like Griffin Flight's got another anti-ship missile.

>>14916809
Jesus, is that thing big enough?

>>14916928
It's an an in-game range of 47 units, making one of the longest range AtG munitions on the list.

In real life it's supposed to be mounted the naval variant of a strategic bomber.

>>14916987

Well we can always sell it and get like 15 sidewinders or something.

>>14915872
Yes

>>14892878
This gentleman is correct.
It is possibly harsh, but come the fuck on, "Here, have a free plane n shit"

>>14917958
In our defense:
-We're rolling along on barely anything funds wise.
-Our flight went from most modern to 3rd most at best.
-You guys are "ZOMG Playing favorites!" over a CF-101B. Please. If we got anything more expensive than 500 (anything late 'Nam essentially) I'd even be like "Wait, what?"
-I'll be totally honest. I figured the favoritism was towards the Kattes if anyone.
>No offense Kattes but if you're sitting down in our dumps you'd think the same of the best flight. Its easy to envy those who are more successful. So its not professional hate or anything. I just wish I had a Tomcat and a Flanker.

Budgeting is extreme for our next mission and we're still rolling total shite for weapons with mediocore airframes. I don't see us picking up anything remotely nice in the near future.

You know what? If I was running it, I'd do the same. You don't fucking kick your players out of the game for bad luck. You set them up to at least keep going and see where they go from there. I see that right here. The Voodoo is all right, for its time. But we're up against things about a decade or two more modern than that. So its on us how shit pans out. Me I fudge dice all the god damn time in tabletop games. Why? For story purposes. It moves the game, makes it a challenge, or introduces something dramatic. No railroading needed. And yes I've had characters die on natural rolls, but I felt it was needed, and the party and player continued on.

Either this or we remain the Pariahs of the Mercs. I'm totally fine, because we at least got a bro-reputation for helping dudes even if we fuck ourselves up in the process...

Thats fucking dedication.

>tl:dr The haters need to go back to GMing 101.

I want to see Crutches say this to Sebastian.

>>14914879

Put this in your pipe and smoke it.

>>14918624

Don't think you've been tracking things well, pal.
Sukhoi's cut just about all of us a break or two in spots, but when the dice kill you, they kill you.

Knew I'd hit a nerve. Its more of a jealousy thing than anything and not your fault (if you are a Katte).

You guys are the total envy of the flight line now...

I think every flight has been rewarded 'somehow' by Suk, but it's never blatant, and it always kind of fits with the story.

Musket failed their mission, got payed barely enough to scrape repairs, but they did do a sidequest during their mission. There was no cash bonus, but they got an old Cold War era jet (early cold war at that) and it was explained in game.

I don't see that as favoritism, that just reeks of a good GM knowing how to tantalize players. I mean, maybe they'd have gotten the Voodoo and tons of cash had they aced the mission and the side quest?

Roleplaying is about choices, the Musketeers made a choice, and were both penalized (money) and rewarded (bro-tier rep+plane) for their action.

>>14919120
To be honest I don't feel all that jealous.

Sure they got some damn good birds early, but the potential for a catastrophic loss is still there.

I mean, the Musketeers their flight lead and one of their F-16s on their first mission.

I'm planning on making sure that Griffin Flight is financially secure before we start buying the big guns.

>>14918624

We got damn lucky last mission, but consider this-

We just finished an escort mission, for an unpopular strike group who never came back. And the first thing we do is buy a pair of maintenance hogs, while working for a group not known for deep pockets...

Totally not suspicious. And considering the cost of maintenance and weapons (no point taking a Cat without Phoenix's) we need to run high risk/return missions.

>>14916987
>>14916928
>Jesus, is that thing big enough?

I'm pretty sure it'll do the job well enough.

>>14920566
Hopefully that will free up some legit AtG contracts in universe for us.

I've got no jealousy for Musketeers getting a new-ish bird or Kattes flying around in super fighters or Griffin being creative and dominating the paint scheme market, it's part of what makes the game fun.

Eagle just put muskets on alert 10. Shits getting real.

>>14920566
Oh believe me its there...

And you'll hear about it...

Losing your entire "strike package?" thats rough. Sabine will give you an earful and be ready for Fox Six... Then again she'll never know the truth.

Alert 10 eh? Thats practically standing to the jet with a basic AtA load.

>>14922020
That reminds me of the giant AtA that shot down that annoying Georgian AWACS plane that one time...

Or the insano jet-propelled anti-ship cruise missile the size of a fucking F-15

>>14923274
>Or the insano jet-propelled anti-ship cruise missile the size of a fucking F-15

SS-22 Sunburn?
"only" half the size of a F15.

As used on the Lun.

mmm. Planes and mercs with ekranoplans. oh yes.

In other news, I've gotten around to updating my "improved" version of the MAS ruleset.

Containing nearly 200 planes and variants, more missiles than you can shake a stick at and all presented in an OpenOffice calc file.

Found here, in various downloadable versions:

http://s1.zetaboards.com/PlanesAndMercs/topic/4115309/

Other additions include reworked stats (semi-realistic now, where possible) & costs for all planes with expanded / optional rules for the more indepth experience.

Too bad my bro Air Action Weekly hasn't been around to play ball with, anyone else feeling like having a look and perhaps give me some suggestions? I'm always open for improvements.

>>14923431
That didn't carry Sunburns, it carried either the P500 Basalt or the P700 Granit which were Mig-21 sized.

>>14923680

.... how do we know those aren't actually MiG-21's they modified then?

>>14923705
We don't.

>>14923680
erm, no. The Lun-class was designed with launchers for 6 P-270 Moskit ramjet antiship missiles. Nato reporting name: ss-22 "sunburn".

P500 / P700 was the shipboard launched cruise missile system used on the Kirov. they're slower - mach 1.6-2.5, vs mach 3.5 for the sunburn, and a heavier warhead, 350 kt nuclear or 950kg conventional explosive, compared to 350Kt nuclear or 125kg conventional warhead on the Sunburn.

Completely different roles for the missiles. the Sunburn is an anti-ship missile, the Granit / Bazalt are longrange surface strike cruise missiles.

OKB confirmed to be moving by somewhat suss Eagle intel goons.

-Musketeers are on alert 10...
-Swart Katte is about to go chase the air convoy with their draken/tomcat.

Come on Griffin/Aquila, blow some shit up so we can find out what the fuck OKB is doing

>Completely different roles for the missiles. the Sunburn is an anti-ship missile, the Granit / Bazalt are longrange surface strike cruise missiles.

Incorrect, Granit Bazalt are anti-ship weapons.

>>14926296
It's been what, a week since the other flights finished?

>IN A WORLD of economic catastrophe, PMCs are everywhere

So how many of you have played HAWX? Because that game has a serious hatred of PMCs. It's honestly funny.

>>14926754

PMCs are the perfect villains: Stateless, faceless goons with lots of weaponry fighting for money.

Easy enemy without a chance of offending anyone.

>>14926754
The only thing I didn't like about HAWX was the trailer. Wait, no, that was the only thing I liked about the game.

Anyone else have a bad fucking feeling about the current storyline?

Shit is going down.

>>14926296
Fuck that. We did the digital first and it looked better way back in like '04. I worked on the jet, met the man who's Marine had the idea, he lobbied it through the Chain of Command to the Wing Commanding General to get it improved and honestly was a great Marine and Leader who knew his shit quite well when it came to aviation (he was a former program inspector) AND leading Marines. Regardles.. our "nuts" (double "0") came first damnit!
>pic related
>>14928732
Oh yeah, I think I will get to do that voodoo I do so well.


Actually I have no idea what to fucking do, but all I know is I get lots of AtA missiles and the skies will look like a Macross battle...

>>14928732
Fuck yeah it is... New mission, up ALL PMCs involved!

Airfield defense and it looks like we'll have to be making landings to refuel/rearm.

Missiles on credit...

Somebody keep the Squawk ready! :P

Why do you insist on posting about a game that doesn't exist?

>>14930407
Why do you insist on trolling people are playing a homebrew game... and sharing the good word about it...

>tl;dr Piss off.

>>14930492
Base defence you say? In a tomcat?

Don't mind if I do!

This is not a drill, this is not a drill! All Combat pilots at Djibouti International prepare to scramble to intercept enemy formations!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdAlYF67r9E&feature=related#t=00m35s

That's basically Aquila and Griffin flights right now.

>>14930704

If only I could find the full version-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfXEV61jSPU

"This is not a drill! Repeat, this is not a drill! If it was a drill, I'd be telling you it was, but it's not!"

You know how I know we're in an awesome RPG?

>>14930991
Do tell...

>>14930492
What is that?

>>14930991

Pipes fall and everyone dies?

>>14930991
Because there's currently 16 players fighting at the same time? And are they going to be doing this all on the same map as one another? Because if that second part is true, then I can think of no better evidence of this game being awesome until the action starts.

Can you take your airship pew pew circlejerk to /k/?
We like to talk about game here, not Top Gun fanfiction.

>there are 8 players fighting at the same time

ftfy

>>14931784
your trolling attempts are adorable.

Does anyone else notice how huge that map is. We have a shit load of ground to cover.

>>14931829

That's why God invented the AWG-9....

>>14931829
Oh am I wrong?

>>14931951

Yep.

So I'm thinking if we have the Draken and Flanker tank, while the Cat throws out some major DPS. Then the Muskets can kite them to shit. Then we just need to keep an eye on man regen, but that's why we have reserves at the airbase. Anyone lfg?


... wait, is that /tg/ talk or /v/ talk, i has a confuse

new thread my good mercs.

>>14931437