Good sir, you had best believe I am going to model one of those onto one of my officers.

I even have a drill of the proper size already, since I only use 1 size of drill on my minis but I got like 4 different sized heads.

>>14075378
That's....that's not bad....

>>14075378
Not gonna take off

A katana could still cut through it.

>>14075378
This is the best idea EVER!

I now have a idea for what my techpreist will be doing!

Read that as Drill Raper.

I am ok with this.

>>14075378
Enjoy your flimsy as cardboard "blade". Oh, and good luck trying to cut with it, OP.
>oh but you can't stab with chainswords nubcake
You don't need to. Monomolecular blades.

>>14075410
>>14075378
Semen, log in please

Woah. That... Christ.

It actually fits the combat style of a rapier too. The spinning motion of the drill can help parry attacks, while the tip of the drill would be able to let it more easily penetrate thick hide and armor.

I'm sold.

>>14075400
Source, please.

>>14075424
>Enjoy your flimsy as cardboard "blade".
Haha yeah it's definitely not going to be made out of SPACE MATERIALS like every other sword in the 40k universe.

That thing would break so fucking easy.

>>14075471
>Implying the drill rapier would be in 40k

>approw notion

>>14075378

>>14075478
Didn't you get the memo? It's made of SPACE titanium

DRILLSPEAR!

>>14075487
So are chainswords. So are tyranid choppy bits. So are ork choppers.
It would break easily as fuck.

GIGA
DORILU
RAPIER!

This.. this is so genius I don't even know. It's so basic to the idea of chainswords. I'm sold.

Until someone proves otherwise, Drill Rapiers are now canon in Warhammer 40k.

>>14075424
>>14075458
>>14075483
>>14075471

>>14075378

>>14075490

Drill spear could get away with using a more anime-ish cone drill. Just saiyan.

>>14075424

I came.

Guys

Hey Guys

What if we put a power field on the drill rapier?

>>14075556
POWWA DRILLU RAPIERURU!

>>14075499

Chainswords don't break when they cut through power armor, why would this break when it's already established that fast-moving molecule-thin carbon-metals don't break in 40k as long as they're part of a sword?

>>14075556
Oh, that is totally possible.

Okay, this is viable now.

Fencermarines
Armed with Bolt Pistol and Drillrapier
Its so oldschool

>>14075556
You just made a power sword that can't slice or cut. Good job reinventing the wheel and making it with 3 sides.

>>14075562
The teeth do chip, you are stupid.

less stupid than chainswords
more AWESOME

I approve

>>14075527
>implying anime invented drills

shit dude, I had this exact idea the other day! high five! i just didnt post it because i dont know shit about 40k.

>>14075569
no but it can pierce better than a bolter can which gives it great range of application when everything your fighting is armored like a fucking abrahms.

>>14075577
>LESS stupid than chainswords
2/10.

>>14075567
make that a black-powder muzzle loader bolt pistol, add a tophat and a targeting monocle and you're golden!

>>14075578
OMG ITS SYLAR GET IN CAR

>>14075585
The obviously didn't, but anime tends to use conical drills, which of course are not normal.

>>14075597
>pierce better than a bolter can
in response to
>You just made a power sword that can't slice or cut.

When did I ever mention a bolter, numbnuts?

THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING

guys... what if... we put a drill on a chainsword?

>>14075569

You know why rapiers replaced heavy cutting swords in real life, right? Fast as all fuck, and much sturdier than people expect...thicker than a typical broadsword, for instance, albeit narrower in breadth. You'd be able to parry more quickly, strike and feint more quickly, and stick the blade right through their eye, and we all know that a piercing weapon beats a slashing weapon when it comes to heavy armor. See the estoc for details.

>>14075616
Then you...made a chainfist with a weaker energy field and bundled into a sword.

>>14075378
And this idea hasn't come up before why...?
That has the potential to be nothing short of awesome.

>>14075378
One for all and all FOR THE EMPEROR!

>>14075638

those sword wasnt really heavier, maybe just a little. but the center of gravity for the rapiers was near to the grip.
Also rapiers were never swords for war

>>14075638
>and we all know that a piercing weapon beats a slashing weapon when it comes to heavy armor.
Nope, that's a myth.

>>14075616
Combi close combat weapons are the new win-all shit of the universe. I'm sure some special character would rock it. Chainsword-drillrapier with a power field that hits like a chainfist at standard initiative.

>>14075378
That's a smallsword, not a rapier. Notice the lack of crossguard and small "cup".

Guys! Guys! What if the drill rapier had a tubular blade which vented excess energy, so when you stabbed, the heat would soften metal and then the drill did the rest!

>>14075638
If the chainsword and drill rapier had the same audience, Space Marines would be using this drill rapier more than anyone else. Marines aren't known for being nimble unless they're Scouts, because they don't need to be.

Besides, history is just men vs. men, not men vs. xenos.

It should have spikes that come out once it's inside the target for MAXIMUM DAMAGE.

I just don't understand why no-one have ever done this before. It's so basic. It's ridiculously obvious.

I guess that is what separates us from OP. OP is an innovator! Nothing short of a genius! D:

>>14075638 You know why rapiers replaced heavy cutting swords in real life, right? Fast as all fuck

I've posted this before, but dammit it's the most realistic swordfight I've ever seen in a movie; the final duel from Rob Roy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27M5KWI_q50

Basket-hilted broadsword versus rapier (is it a rapier? my sword-knowledge isn't that great. It might be a smallsword), and it's just so damned clear from it what a massive advantage a light thrusting sword has over a heavier sword in an unarmored duel.

Speaking from experience, there are DH rules for a Steam Drill. You can give it the Mono upgrade.

>>14075569
FOR FUCKS SAKE DO YOU KNOW HOW HARD I'M TRYING TO RESIST MAKING A CHAOS SPACE MARINE ARMY? OBVIOUSLY NOT. CUNT.

>>14075706
Now that i think about it, isn't there a weapon in dark heresy that does something similar? It pierces, then a bunch of metal strings get shoved in the target and move around ripping his insides.

>>14075706
Or even better, you take a mono-wire, shoot it into your enemy and than swirl for enemy-slush?

Use a Harlequin's kiss.

>>14075679

Sure, buddy, I bet you think katanas can cut through plate, too.

>>14075694
There are other people in the universe than Space Marines. I could see every other Commissar with a drill rapier.

Or small drill rapiers as bayonets for guardsmen.

Fucking Preatorians, man.

>>14075725
>Now that i think about it, isn't there a weapon in dark heresy that does something similar? It pierces, then a bunch of metal strings get shoved in the target and move around ripping his insides.
That's from Rogue Trader era-40k, the Harlequin's Kiss. Fires deathspinner filaments inside >>14075569
your abdominal cavity through a pointy needle, not a good thing to wake up to.

Also:
>>14075569
>Good job reinventing the wheel and making it with 3 sides.
Yes. That means it fits into 40k perfectly.

This is like:
Oh Jesus.
There is no word for how awesome this is.
Sigvald the Magnificent armed with one of these sweet motherfuckers and a space marine generator and you are done.

>>14075706

like a chainsword but instead of chains... you have drills

>>14075757
Nothing can cut through plate. The fact that I know your fapping over a weapon's fictional combat performance does not mean that I fap over a different weapon's fictional performance.
Slashing weapons were used to best effect against armor because they were used as bludgeons. Stabbing weapons couldn't do shit against armor.

Can it replace ass blades ?

>>14075820
so instead of rectoblades you get a rectodrill?
Sounds viable to me.

>>14075723
>CUNT!
I have those too.

>>14075725
Rippers of the Dark Eldar does something similar, but it doesn't really pierce something and then releases it's weapon. It's just mono-filament polymers shot at the enemy at high velocities.

Think of it as someone shooting spider-web-thin ropes at you that are sharp as diamond, that starts cutting into you as you try to move, wrapping itself around your arms, legs and then rips it apart as you try to escape.

>>14075838

>>14075715

everyone came up with something that nobody thought of. It takes a real genius to came up with something that everybody thought about.

>>14075718
In the first fight he uses a smallsword IIRC, in this one he seems to choose a rapier, but what he ends up using looks like a dueling saber (which is a saber pretty much only in name, being a smallsword blade with a saber hilt).

Do not read too much into that fight, the weight and slowness of the Scottish backsword are greatly exaggerated, as is how fast Rob tires from swinging it.

>4chan
>Geniuses

>>14075811 Stabbing weapons couldn't do shit against armor

Which was why specialized anti-armor swords like the estoc were 100% thrust oriented, without even a cutting edge.

Oh wait.

OP here. Guys, please, stop being so serious.

Why are people saying this wouldn't cut?

Anybody that is saying that has never used a power drill before, those things are dangerous on all sides, not just the tip. This would be those, but sharpened for combat, spinning faster, with force behind them, and with a POWER FIELD.

This thing would rip shit apart.

>>14075835

>>14075811

Warhammer dude. Dude warhammmers. As in military pick. Knights feared bec de corbins and all their smaller cousins for a damn good reason. They stab right through plate armor.

>>14075811
Longsword techniques against plate consist of:

-Grappling (locks and throws using the sword as a lever)
-Smacking them in the head by using the pommel/cross as a hammer/pick
-Stabbing them through the weak spots (visor, neck, armpits and other parts with "just" mail)

A rapier is shitty against plate, but so is a falchion.

>>14075922
lol @ the idea that an OP somehow controls the chaotic flux of /tg/

you just opened the rift, we're the ones who pour out into the materium

>>14075900
This is quite right. But it doesn't "cut" through plate. It just finds a soft spot in your armor (there ALWAYS are soft spots in the armors) and pierce the joints, geting into soft flesh.
In a real situation you die after 3 or 4 minutes of bleeding, specially carrying a fullplate and runing from a battlefield.

In 40k... dude, everything is possible.

>isaid versa.
sorry captcha, didn't get it the first time

>>14075926

I once saw that if you do not take seriously the safety measures then a drill can rip your scalp of.

>>14075788
Did someone just find the STC-print for making elephants?

Awesome.

WE HAVE TO DO THIS TO MORE WEAPONS.

FUCKING, JACKHAMMERS.
WHAT CAN WE ADD A JACKHAMMER TO?

>>14075811
Piercing swords are called as such because they're good at piercing. In battle they could penetrate the weak points of the enemy armour, such as the seams.

Also, they obviously work. The spaniards were famously deadly.

>>14075990
A normal hammer.

>>14075990
Jackhammer/Storm Shield

>>14075990
SLEDGEHAMMERS.

THE JACKSLEDGEHAMMER.

OP is a terrible idea, as anyone who has ever worked with a drill that size can tell.

>>14075718
>I've posted this before, but dammit it's the most realistic swordfight I've ever seen in a movie; the final duel from Rob Roy:
>YFW realize that the broadword is a horrible crowbar
>YFW you realize that the most realistic duels are in an old Riddley Scott-movie called "The Duellists"
>YFW you realize that all that makes that scene outstanding is how it was framed by the story.

>>14075900
>Fightan against turks and russian
>Mail, mail everywhere!

>>14075990

Jackhammers are good for punchy or stabby.

>>14075953
Aaaaactually, rapiers and sabres were better at picking soft spots in the armor. Not to say "stab in the face" since it was quite unrealistic.

But then again, the most powerful weapon of medieval times was the bow.
You can kill from afar > you have to get to close combat.
And you don't see me saying "Wow! I had an idea! let's put Power Fields on ARROWS!!"

>intense spinning.
>magical space material.
>incredible heat buildup at touch.
>forcefields'n'powerstuff
how can this NOT be useful, with a bit of imagination, one cold think of a drill design made for shredding armour by hacking away at it piece by piece. or, you know, if marines would ever display any actual kind patience or skill with their weapons.

>>14076039

Been there, done that.

Or at least my Arch Militant has Lathe Arrows.

>>14076039
Plasma guns. Already ignoring most armor.

>>14075600
>chainsword
would jam against soft targets and break against hard targets, has to be opened to replace chain, can't be done in combat

>drillsword
would not jam against soft targets and would not break against hard targets, blade easily replaced, can be done in combat

gtfo 40gayfag

>>14076039
>And you don't see me saying "Wow! I had an idea! let's put Power Fields on ARROWS!!"
There are guns, and some Eldar guns shoot mono-blade stuff.

Honestly, it's like you've forgotten how this whole space-fantasy thing works.

>>14076039
Uh... When we are talking about legal weapons. Crossbows man - pope didn't allow to use them in the battlefield because death rates rose too high.

>>14076019 The Duellists

The movie had some nice smallsword duels, but the saber duels in it are ridiculous. They struggle to lift them, and swing them like they're made of lead.

Probably used extra-thick blunts for safety, but still, it ruins any claim the movie had to having realistic swordfights.

>>14076079
>would jam against soft targets
Care to explain?

>Making powertools into warhammer weapons
Now thread goes in right direction! Just don't forget to make stats for Dark Heresy

Guys, seriously, guys:
>Warhammers with a saw blade that runs the length of the top, no more pussified grazing blows!
>Shields with oscillating drills for spikes, clang clang BRILL BRILL
>Bath slippers with pistons, fuck yeah!

>>14076089

He didn't allow them against christians.

But no-one gave a shit about that law.

>>14076089 Crossbows man - pope didn't allow to use them in the battlefield because death rates rose too high.

Oh Christ, not this shit again. The pope banned all missile weapons - crossbows, bows, slings, the whole deal. And absolutely nobody payed any attention to the ban. Also, it happened in the 11th century, long before plate armor was around.

>>14075990
An Ironsides dreadnought. It works great. :)

Let's see... Tanks already have bulldozer blades on the front, Techpriests use servo-arms in close combat, so let's put a backhoe on the rear of a tank to keep those pesky infantry off the rear armor in close combat! And. . You know. . Power-fields.

>>14076097

Guts clogging up the machinery.

>>14076097
fleshy bit get into the chain drive fucks it up
read about chainsaw accidents on soft tissue. they jam fast as fuck (hurt like a bitch though, obviously)

>>14076108
I'm talking about death-bringing power here, not the specifics of that law, it's consequences and usage in practice. Bows were never dislegalised, even against christians, that is my point.

>>14076019
>OP is a terrible idea, as anyone who has ever worked with a drill that size can tell.
Chainswords and three meter long Katanas/Gunblades aren't better.

>>14076081
But they are not Tech-Artifacts like powerfield generators and Eldar make most of their catapult/shuriken/etc weapons of psychic bone material. So... yeah, they can afford it.

>>14076077
Exactly.

>>14076071
Your Magus should be executed for being dumb. He's not only wasting PRECIOUS metal and materials, but as well as the resources of the Lathe system, such as fucking time.

Seriously... Some people that I bump into... oh god.

>>14076103

brb, equipping all of my Sister Repentia with Power Jackhammers.

>>14076149

>Your Magus should be executed for being dumb. He's not only wasting PRECIOUS metal and materials, but as well as the resources of the Lathe system, such as fucking time.

It's a RT game. To quote Futurama 'I don't think you understand how rich we are talking, let me get my top hat'

That and she ALWAYS recovers them if it's possible. She's not letting something like get lost. 1 shot, one kill and 1 recovered arrowhead.

>>14076159
Most (I think all) SDS drills have a hammer function, a turn-only drill function and a hammer drill function.

OP's idea can easily incorperate a jackhammer.

>>14076159
You could make a jackhammer fist. Just like Horus Powerclaws...
But they PENETRATE.

In game terms, I'd say that it does less flat damage than a regular chain weapon, but have higher precision/critical chance and have higher penetration.

>>14076197
And when the jackhammer bit extends, a drill extends out of the jackhammer bit!

>>14076089
>implying the pope didn't ban crossbows because they allowed an untrained commoner to kill a heavily armoured noble.

>>14076120
>>14076121
I don't doubt that chainsaws are bad weapons, but wouldn't a weaponised chainsaw have all of it's machinery behind protective screens and filters?

Of course, this is 40k, so logic doesn't really apply.

>>14076039
Rapiers are civilan weapons developed for unarmored fighting. Sabres are cutting weapons, developed for battlefield use, but only became really popular once armor began to disappear from battle. Also they didn't exist in medieval times, they appeared in the renaissance (though a case could be made for sabres, since curved swords did exist, like the very choppy falchion and several oriental swords, but they weren't great against armor).

If you mean thrusting blades which might've evolved into the rapier that were made for armor piercing, that'd be true.

>>14076194
OH! Okay, you have the Adeptus Mars levy to use them them. Just... just don't tell the Inquisition we said so. We have to make those filthy fleshbags believe they are in control.
And could you ship one for us, here at guyz_from_marz@imperiumail.com? We'd appreciate that, for archiving and whatnot...
You know the 'drill'. 01001000011001010110010100100000011010000110010101100101

I'm a pit fighter with a rock drill.

Mine's bigger.

>>14076209
>but wouldn't a weaponised chainsaw have all of it's machinery behind protective screens and filters?
I can't see a way to drive the chain without having at least one gear. which would get clogged.
probably not as fast as a IRL chainsaw but still too quickly to make it an effective weapon.

but as you say, 40k, logic no longer applies.
just sayin' that a drill sword is less retarded than a chainsword

>>14075990
Power Fist.

>>14076224
I meant those. Not a forgemonger myself.
And if you look closely at a claymore you will notice it's a fat blade (why it was so heavy), and even if meant to be used on horses like the Montantes (i don't know the name in english) or Twohandeds, they were very effective at piercing a target's soft spot, specially if immobile.

>>14076207
And the drill is covered in teeth which are chainsaws and the chainsaws have nukes for teeth and the nukes fire lasers at everything.

Gentlemen, behold, the DRILL ARM
http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1184255_99111399007_InqDelphanMain_445x319
.jpg

And this is why the Mechanicus are just plain better.

Also, all glory to the Drill Rapier!

Leman Russes are tracors?
let's get some sort of converted road roller tank...

I found this thread from 4chan's homepage and I know practically nothing about /tg/ or gamesworkshop but I approve nonetheless.

>>14075378
My jimmies were rustled at first, but then I read this.
Jimmies status: Not rustled.

Archive this thread pl0x

My tech-priest is from the Lathes.

Fuck the rules, because I want a sanctified, lathe, drill rapier.

>>14076346
With a power field?

>>14076331
do it yourself, faggot.

>>14076436
And if I do?

>>14075400
>>14075462
I'm with this guy on the subject of source

>>14076436

I know not how, as I am a lowly faggot sir.

This idea is awesome. My brother came up with it a long time ago, he loved the pic OP.

DRRRRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLL
RRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRR

>>14076697
More like 'Raper Drill', am I right?

>>14076711
probably.
now for the red and gold color finish.

>>14076435
I don't need a bitch ass powerfield when its LATHE FORGED

Don't forget to put a chuck key on a lanyard for the thing. It sucks when you need to use a different drill bit and someone's lost the chuck key.

I have some horrible puns for this....

>>14076870
Seriously, just use an SDS

>>14076943
Got a hand-held hammer-drill from a pawn shop recently. Plugs into the wall so it's got good power, and takes half inch drill bits. I'm fairly in love. But it's not a Special Direct System. :/

Back on topic; So now we need a seismic-hammer rapier-drill!

>>14077005
lucerne hammer style?
polearm, hammer on one side drill on the other

>>14077005

OK WE GOT THUNDERJACKHAMMERS NOW.

FUCKING, ORKS GOT CIRCULAR SAWS.

NEXT IS ROTOTILLER.

What if

You had a motorcycle

With sawblades for wheels

>>14077129
Give the cycle retractable chainsaw teeth, two rows on each wheel that extend from it. And arm the rider with a drill rapier.

>>14077159
No no, a drill rapier isn't good enough.

We need a drill LANCE.

iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit's finished.
damn it sucks.

>mfw this thread
That's pretty boss, OP.

>>14077079
That'd be perfect for swarms of boyz, gretchin, or smaller nids. Unfortunately I could only see it being used by orks, so it probably wouldn't see much use, but when it did it'd be epic.

I know killa kans have these, but ever since I saw a concrete saw as a kid I've wanted one. I should model one onto my army's champion.

>>14076121
The little blades on chainswords apparently stick out far enough that the stuff does not reach the chain itself.

I really have no idea, maybe the bladed bits are the only exposed bits and the rest of the chain-front is somehow shielded.

>>14077129
The Painkiller is a Gary Stu.

>>14077498
I think you're just jealous of his CHROMIUM PLATED BOILING METAL

CODEX: DIY Marines

>>14075400

anyone ever give the source for this?

>>14077079
orks will put a power field around a wheat thresher so they can cultivate 'umies in the battle field

>>14075718

I saw seven different instances in which Rob could have won the fight instantly by simply being more aggressive and pushing his weight and height advantage. It may be considered dishonorable (read: smart), but that basket hilt is meant to be used as a steel boxing glove. If rob had just got in close and punched that fucker on the nose, he could have broken him with his bare hands.

I approve.

No archive
>yfw

Well its much less stupid compared to a chainsword, but whatever.

A small note, that if the spinning drill is too massive it will act as a gyroscope increasing the rotational inertia of the sword making it more difficult to "swing."

Really the intelligent method would be a weapon with a thermal lance on the end of it and quickly burn through anything you thrust at.

its been done...

>>14079689
I nostalgia'd.

That's it. I'm sick of all this "+1 bleeding rapier" bullshit that's going on in the d20 system right now. drill rapiers deserve much better than that. Much, much better than that.

I should know what I'm talking about. I myself commissioned a genuine drill rapier from Spain and my local hardware store for 18,000 dollars and have been practicing with it for almost 2 years now. I can even drill through the heavens with my drill rapier.

Drill Rapier smiths spend years working on a single drill rapier and twist it up to a million times to produce the finest drill blades known to mankind.

Drill rapiers are thrice as sharp as European swords and thrice as hard for that matter too. Anything a longsword can cut or drill through, a drill rapier can cut or drill through better. I'm pretty sure a drill rapier could easily stab straight through a knight wearing full plate with a simple thrust.

Ever wonder why medieval Europe was known for it's awesome furniture? That's right, they were using their awesome drill rapiers as handy tools to build their empires. Even in World War II, American soldiers targeted the men with the drill rapiers first because their killing power was feared and respected.

So what am I saying? Drill rapiers are simply the best sword that the world has ever seen, and thus, require better stats in the d20 system. Here is the stat block I propose for Drill rapiers:

(One-Handed Exotic Weapon)
1d20 Damage
15-20 x6 Crit
+4 to hit and damage
Counts as Masterwork

(Two-Handed Exotic Weapon)
2d12 Damage
13-20 x6 Crit
+8 to hit and damage
Counts as Masterwork

Now that seems a lot more representative of the cutting/drilling power of drill rapiers in real life, don't you think?

tl;dr = drill rapiers need to do more damage in d20, see my new stat block.

bump for awesome

>>14078671
Not the guy you're responding to, but I think it may be harder to get in close like that than one might think. If not physically than at least psychologically. Consider that a rush to bring you into that range could easily skewer you on his blade, which he can bring up almost instantly, and possibly faster than you can deliver a good punch.

Not saying it's not possible, or even probable, I had the same thought at first, but I fenced for several years and I think it might be a little more difficult than it appears at first glance.

in before fencing =/= fighting, I know but I think the point remains.

The reason it hasn't been concieved of before is because in 40k it pays to be the shootiest/choppiest. Precision is all too often sacrificed in the name of power (and rightly so, since oftentimes stoping something with huge FUCK OFF weaponry is more important that doing it with precision).

>>14078671

Agreed.

The fight in that episode of Firefly was better.

>>14075378
I had an idea for drill rapiers for a homebrewed setting I was working on awhile back.

Here's a rough picture of it being used as a walking stick by a robot beak doctor.

This is now what the Impact enchantment does in my 3.5/Pathfinder games.

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