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    839 KB Zeonquest pt93 I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/11/11(Fri)12:53 No.13864246  
    Later than advertised because I thought I'd give this internet piracy lark a go and scan 70+ pages of Rites of Battle.

    Anyway...

    It is close to the end of the One Year War. For nearly a year you have been fighting for all your worth on land, sea and space to try and defeat the Federation.
    When Odessa fell, you failed.
    From that point on, it was simply a matter of trying to lose without losing to much in the process.
    Gihren Zabi did not help.

    Last episode you lost a friend.

    You had (fortitiously as it turned out) given the order to retreat early, to try and safeguard as much of your vital troops and warmachinery as possible. When the vaunted Midnight Pixy Death Squad attacked you gave as good as you got, effectively destroying the formation in the ensuing combat, but in their final acts, Calvin Hobart interceded to save you from the enemy BD Pixy, only to take heavy gatling fire in return, out of nowhere Hovis Goddard, your MA pilot dived in to save you both - his Val Velo was damaged, low on ammo, and unable to fire it's main cannon, in it's last act of defiance, the Blue Destiny Pixy broke free of the Val Velo's pincers and attacked the cockpit area directly.
    A massive explosion followed, signifying the end of a man who had backed you all up in countless engagements. On paper you may have only known him for six or so months, but to all of you, it felt like a lifetime.

    After this, the enemy were content to try and box your small fleet in. But you broke out of their fleet cordon and beyond their lines, luckily making it just as the Anti-Beam chaff wore off.

    But there was worse news to come - In his efforts to save you, Calvin Hobart had taken heavy damage, both to his mobile suit, and to his cockpit block, a monitor screen had exploded in his face causing heavy lacerations to the left side.

    The doctors say that he will never see from his left eye again, and that he won't be fit for duty for weeks...
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)12:55 No.13864263
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    >>13864246
    For Hovis.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)12:58 No.13864277
    >Calvin alive but wounded
    It's bad, but at least we didn't lose another member of Nachtmaren.

    How are repairs on our Nacht-Zaku? What about the rest of the squad?
    Have we been able to link up with the rest of the Zeon fleet?
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)13:00 No.13864291
    Fuck, it's like the end of the first Gundam 00 season. Everyone's gonna die ;-;
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/11/11(Fri)13:01 No.13864302
    >>13864277
    Essentially, the Nacht Zaku is going to need full factory support to be rebuilt. The others aren't much better. Even Zolomon and Jolyne have taken damage.
    Zolomon at least has managed to snag a Gundam Hammer, which he's imminently pleased with.

    If the enemy had decided to push the issue, you could have been in a real trouble. Luckily however, the enmy force staged an organised retreat, heading towards the Luna II forces and their battle with the Garrison.

    As they depart you're division totals up the damage you've incurred, and what you've dished out.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)13:04 No.13864323
    >>13864302
    >heading towards the Luna II forces and their battle with the Garrison
    Shit. We'll need to follow them, I think.
    If the main Federation fleet links up with the Luna II Federation Garrison, they'll be able to overpower the Luna II Blockade Fleet.
    Thus reinforced, they'll be able to mount a second attack.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/11/11(Fri)13:05 No.13864329
    >>13864291

    Only one guy died in that. Everyone else lived, even the guy who everyone was expecting to die by episode 8.
    ...and then they replaced that one guy with his identical twin brother.

    I'm not kidding this actually happened.

    Overall though, it WAS a bad year for snipers all round.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)13:08 No.13864353
    >>13864329
    Even as they begin tallying our losses, can Anita get us a lasercomm connection to the rest of the Zeon forces here? If we can harass the main Federation fleet as they try to link up with the Luna II Fed fleet, we might be able to catch the Federation in a pincer between us and the blockade fleet.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)13:11 No.13864372
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    Since the Nacht's trashed for the forseeable future, it looks like we might have to update to something else. Maybe a Newtype MA? Or finally get around to flying a Kaempfer?

    And did we ever see what happened to the Blue Destiny unit that got knocked out of the fight?
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/11/11(Fri)13:11 No.13864374
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    >>13864323

    Your team is in no condition to be following anyone.

    In any case, you total up the damage. Tentatively, you believe you lost somehwere in the region of 20 mobile suits, just over 2 whole companies worth. Only one of the Musai's was destroyed luckily, although another did sustain severe damage. Roughly 25 mobile suits did survive however.

    The kill tally is much more heartening however, aside from a large number of GM's easily numbering into the 20's there are a couple of high end Mobile Suits reported destroyed, several Guncannons and the real icing on the cake, no less than 6 confirmed Pegasus class vessel kills. It's is certainly this last point that resulted in the retreat order being given. Aside from that another 10 or so older pattern vessels were destroyed.

    However it doesn't look like you or your allies are in any position to pursue.

    In anycase.

    YOUR ORDERS?
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)13:14 No.13864389
    >>13864374

    The entire Fed fleet's disengaging, right? Link up with Dozle and see what our next move is.
    >> Zeta Zaku 02/11/11(Fri)13:15 No.13864397
    >>13864374
    Make for Pezun. It's the closest facility with the materials we need to get our team back to fighting strength. Calvin needs to be offloaded to a dedicated medical facility for the time being as well.

    We may want to contact Dozle and see if we can assist in hammering out an operational plan for the foreseeable future. With Garma and the remnants of the Earth Attack Force stranded on terra firma, we'll probably be working under him for the rest of the war.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)13:17 No.13864415
    >>13864374
    Confirm the salvage of that one Pixy suit.
    Even if we can't use it because of the EXAM, it's gundam systems might be useful for analysis.

    Also if we can't move for a while, we should probably attempt salvage operations to get usable replacement parts from lost suits.
    Oh, maybe we can even get another lunar titanium shield.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)13:19 No.13864429
    >>13864415
    I'd really rather not give Zeon access to anything that would allow them to potentially replicate the EXAM system.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)13:20 No.13864443
    >>13864374
    Can we get confirmation on what happened with the Blue Destiny-3 and Swchartz
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)13:22 No.13864463
    >>13864429
    Moot point, though. Zeon already is capable of making EXAM systems. Cima's suit was one, and Zeon already had the BD-2.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)13:23 No.13864468
    >>13864429

    Zeon already has an EXAM system.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/11/11(Fri)13:26 No.13864489
    >>13864443

    You lost contact with Nimbus Schwarzen as his battle took him close to the earths atmosphere. At this point it is believed that he has been killed. The status of the enemy BD-3 given the battle-damage you'd already inflicted on it is uncertain.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)13:26 No.13864491
    >>13864397
    I agree that the we will need repairs at Pezun.
    But first, we should make contact with Dozle, and try to hash out a strategic plan.
    If the two Federation fleets link up, they'll be able to tear through the Luna II blockade and launch a second offensive while we're still recovering.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)13:34 No.13864542
    >>13864468
    >>13864463

    Whoops, don't know how I forget that.

    Nevermind, then.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)13:35 No.13864550
    >>13864490
    In addition to a damage report on the squad, also get a damage report on the OH from Captain Mauser.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)13:35 No.13864553
    Check what's left of those Pegasus-class ships.

    See if any of them have any MS left in the bays, and if so, what types. Even if we have to run some troops in scavenged GM suits, that's one more suit we have in action. Heck, even some spare parts/ammo might well extend the lifespan on suits we can't fix otherwise.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)13:37 No.13864563
    >>13864374

    So can our force sortie with our current suits or do we need to go somewhere for replacements/pick up old suits?
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)13:38 No.13864572
    >>13864553
    We should pick up some GM shields, too.
    Not as good as our old trust Gundam Shield, but they're still better than nothing.
    >> Ben Barberry 02/11/11(Fri)13:42 No.13864602
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    >Hovis Goddard is KIA.
    >Calvin is wounded, and out of action for the near future.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)13:46 No.13864630
    >>13864543
    Good luck on finding more pilots on short notice. That's always been a problem for Zeon.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/11/11(Fri)13:48 No.13864645
    >>13864550

    The Outer Heaven sustained minor damage, thanks to it's improved AA coverage and additional armour it received during it's upgrade at Pezun.

    The fleets begin to merge together as you all decide to follow the retreating enemy force from a distance. Eventually you're able to get back into contact with the other fleets and get an idea of their situation.

    Char's genada component has lost upto 90% of their Mobile Suit assets and 75% of their ships. Only the timely intevention of a pair of Elmeths from the Flanagan Institute and the survivors dogged persistance saved this front from collapsing completely.

    Dozle's force fared better. 40% Mobile Suit losses and 20% ship casualties. He was able to aggressively draw the enemy away from the mauled Grenadan forces and then keep them on his front with repeated blitzkrieg feints and moving his battleships forwards, exposing them to some fire, but enabling them to lend fire support at optimum range.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)13:49 No.13864653
    >>13864602
    You weren't here last week, were you?

    Anyway, we need to get the Outer Heaven to open a laser comm channel with Dozle's command network and see what we're going to do.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)13:50 No.13864657
    >>13864645
    Any intelligence on Gihren?
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)13:51 No.13864668
    >>13864645
    Are the Elmeth MA's using our suggested Recon/Sniper package? Who's piloting them, anyway?
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)13:52 No.13864675
    >a pair of Elmeths

    It would seem our little girl has grown up, in the harshest way possible.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/11/11(Fri)13:57 No.13864710
    >>13864657

    Nothing. He's been pretty quiet lately. It's possible that when that last stunt he pulled backfired, he lost a lot of his traction with his own faction. If that's the case, then the Loyalist Zeon faction is effectively neutral now.
    Certainly it's fair to assume this possibility is not one that has passed Degwin and his staff up, but that's neither here nor there at the moment.

    >>13864668
    >>13864675

    Elmeths were both equipped for long range combat interdiction as intended. The Recon/Spotter option is still undergoing tactical evaluation, and there are concerns about putting such a rare commodity as a newtype who can actually control bits into what is simply a glorified AWAC's unit instead of actual combat unit.

    Pilots are listed as Lalah Sune in the finished model, and Nell Dyland in the Prototype.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)13:58 No.13864714
    >>13864645
    Are there any ships that will be making their way to Pezun for repairs?
    If so, we should send the critically injured, our Nact-Zaku, suits requiring factory repair, and Calvin to Pezun for their better medical facilities and for their factories.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)14:01 No.13864740
    >>and Nell Dyland in the Prototype

    Called it. Gawd, I hope Lalah was able to soften the trauma this time.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)14:01 No.13864741
    >>13864710
    Before we move too far away, let's loot some of the Pegasus carriers, see if there's any GM's, or even a Gundam, for us to salvage and use.
    Hell, at the least we can pick up a lunar titanium shield.

    Also, send a message to Nell, asking if she's feeling alright, how she's doing, general concern for her well-being.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/11/11(Fri)14:01 No.13864743
    >>13864700

    Unknown. Based on encounters and confirmed kills, Amuro in the Solomon Express is still up and about (Char confirms that they were only able to fight each other to a stalemate. Again.) The Midnight Pixy squad has been destroyed and the Heavy Gundam has been destroyed.
    Both the BD-3 and the G-3 piloted by Bandit are unknown, but in the absence of any evidence to the contrary, are assumed still active.

    You did not encounter the G-05 or 04 in this mission. But that was to be expected as they are believed to operate out of Luna II, and are probably acting as a rearguard there at the moment.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/11/11(Fri)14:04 No.13864763
    >>13864714

    Yes. There are several ships making there way in that direction, a couple think they can make it to Solomon and are heading there instead.

    >>13864741

    You can order your contigent to try and pick through the battlefield for survivors and resources if you want, but you wont be able to do this personally you understand.
    Also, the other forces have merged into a single unit under Dozle's control and will be leaving you here.

    You'd better hope there isn't a second wave coming.
    >> Zeta Zaku 02/11/11(Fri)14:05 No.13864775
    >>13864743
    >Solomon Express
    I keep forgetting he's using that now. Not looking forward to having to deal with that monster.

    Also, the Heavy Gundam was destroyed? How'd they manage to accomplish that?
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)14:07 No.13864785
    >>13864763
    Well, David doesn't have a suit right now, and all of the Nachtmaren suits need repairs.

    Would it be acceptable to Dozle if we did some battlefield repairs and tried to scrounge an MS for David, then make best speed to link up with them later?
    Without a suit, David is far less useful.
    >> Zeta Zaku 02/11/11(Fri)14:07 No.13864787
    And I still say we depart for Pezun ASAP. The unit is essentially crippled, we shouldn't stick around looking for trinkets.

    Polite sage for doublepost.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/11/11(Fri)14:07 No.13864793
    >>13864775

    By slicing it with a beam saber until it died.
    Plus, David managed to cause an ammo explosion in the shoulder cannon with his heat rod.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/11/11(Fri)14:09 No.13864801
    >>13864785

    The Nacht is repairable, but you need spare parts from Pezun to do it.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)14:10 No.13864805
    >>13864787
    I do not consider getting another gundam shield to be just "a trinket". Shields have saved David's life in the past, and if we're going to be fighting more gundams, then we're going to need every advantage we can get.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)14:10 No.13864806
    >>13864763

    Hmm. Badly damaged and alone if the Feddies get their gumption up for another round?

    Cancel salvage operations. Head for Pezun, we need medical, new suits, and probably could use some rest while we're at it.
    >> Ben Barberry 02/11/11(Fri)14:11 No.13864817
    >>13864653

    Not exactly. I had to catch up on the Archives. When I have been in time for Zeonquest though, I usually didn't post anyways. I stopped way back before we had left earth.

    Also, since this character is probably dead already, I'm sure you gents won't mind if I use his likeness to post reaction images.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)14:11 No.13864818
    >>13864801
    I understand.
    I was saying that we try to salvage a working suit from the battlefield, such as a gundam that got left on a Pegasus when the crew abandoned ship.
    >> Ben Barberry 02/11/11(Fri)14:11 No.13864820
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    >>13864817

    Forgot my picture.
    >> Crix !!nLvSV/0cRma 02/11/11(Fri)14:11 No.13864822
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    >Cancel salvage operations.

    You can't cut back on funding, you'll regret this
    >> Crix !!nLvSV/0cRma 02/11/11(Fri)14:14 No.13864845
    >>13864818
    Is right, the Pegasus is a pretty solid ship, unless it OUTRIGHT EXPLODED, it's probably got something left on it, or even steal it's mega particle turrets wwwww
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)14:15 No.13864854
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    Can someone fill me in on some background details?

    - Why is Garma still alive? Assuming the Nachtmaren saved him, why hasn't Char attempted to kill him again? Are you really telling me that Char has gone the entirety of the one year war without offing a Zabi? It's intrinsic to his character, its something he has to do in order to get over his internal turmoil.

    - How much of the original White Base & Gundam storyline happened? Project V, etc.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)14:16 No.13864865
    hey guys, maybe we should stop being so damn materialistic and get Calvin to some fucking proper medical attention.

    He gave his eye for us, and we're gonna stick him on the back burner while we rummage through the dead looking for shit?

    There will be many, MANY chances to salvage things we need in the near future.
    But for now, we need to honor Calvin's and Hovis's sacrifice, and get that man some damn help.

    Get your priorities straight /tg/, the men come first
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)14:17 No.13864881
    >>13864845
    You know, Mega Particle cannons are kind of high-tech. By their very nature they're kinda delicate. I don't think you'd find anything worth salvaging after a nuclear explosion.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)14:19 No.13864891
    >>13864854

    Garma's alive because we saved his ass. Char hasn't gone after him because we (Garma's people) handed him proof (on a nice saucer, no less) of who really did the deed.

    He has a name for his hate, and it is Gihren.

    Far as the whole White Base thing, we actually haven't seen Amuro and company up close all that much. Last time anything happened was yet another draw with Char (see this thread, >>13864743 ).
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)14:19 No.13864893
    >>13864854
    Char found out that Gihren alone was responsible for his fathers death or something.
    >> Ben Barberry 02/11/11(Fri)14:19 No.13864894
    >>13864865

    This man is right. Calvin saved Listers ass, the least we can do is thank him properly for it. While we're on that note, we should probably get a Nachtmaren funeral service together for Hovis, since he's been our bro for quite a while.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)14:20 No.13864900
    >>13864865
    Calvin's situation is stabilized, and we likely WILL NOT have a chance to get a lunar titanium shield before we are next in combat.

    You get your priorities straight, instead of panicking as soon as someone under our command gets hurt.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)14:20 No.13864906
    Personally I'd go for salvage ops. Chances are there will be plenty of useful things to find.
    >> Side-O tree Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)14:20 No.13864907
    >>13864854
    There's also the issue of Garma's Death, and Gihren's steady usurpation of the principality as triggering Degwin Zabi's willingness to sign a peace treaty before the Federation reaches Side 3.
    >> Crix !!nLvSV/0cRma 02/11/11(Fri)14:20 No.13864909
    >>13864881
    >I don't think you'd find anything worth salvaging after a nuclear explosion.

    Did you fucking miss where I said UNLESS IT FUCKING EXPLODED in ALL CAPS so idiots like you could see it? There's more than one way a ship can be rendered inoperable.

    >why hasn't Char attempted to kill him again?
    It's been awhile since I've seen 0079 but Char's attempt on Garma was pretty passive, for all intents and purposes Garma got himself killed.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/11/11(Fri)14:21 No.13864917
    >>13864854

    Garma is alive because he deployed in his mobile suit at the critical moment when we entered the scene carrying his girlfriend. Char still managed to get his Gaw killed, but he wasn't on it at the time.
    Char was then sent to pursue White Base as it made it's way to africa. The two of them weren't even in the same country until Odessa, by which point Char was getting obsessed over taking down the Gundam instead and never got an oppourtunity.

    Later on we revealed that it was Gihren who killed his father, and at this point the whole situation seems to be defused.
    >> *Throw hands up into air* Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)14:25 No.13864955
    >>13864891
    >>13864893
    ... are you fucking kidding me? Have you guys really conveniently schlepped EVERYTHING bad about Zeon onto Gihren without leaving any vague moral ambiguity? This is completely ridiculous. A core facet of the story that made Char a conflicted antagonist was his brutal revenge quest. Instead you "conveniently" found proof that Gihren was to blame so that Char would still be BFF with Zeon without having him racking up a Zabi-kill count (despite all of them being war criminals and deserving a firing squad anyway). OMGmyBFFChar. The first rule of writing is that you NEVER get to have your cake AND eat it.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/11/11(Fri)14:26 No.13864965
    So: Depart, or Salvage from the battlefield? Could I get a vote please?

    NOTE: IN ORDER TO AVOID MULTIPLE VOTES ONLY THOSE VOTING WITH A TRIPCODE WILL BE COUNTED.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)14:27 No.13864980
    >>13864955
    If you don't like it, Get The FUCK OUT!
    We don't want your kind around here, fag.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/11/11(Fri)14:28 No.13864982
    >>13864955

    It's not that everyone else is all nice people, it's just that it's hard to look bad next to COSMO SPACE SPACE HITLER.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)14:28 No.13864988
    >>13864955
    Your tears taste like honey. Give me more.
    >> Ben Barberry 02/11/11(Fri)14:28 No.13864991
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    >>13864965

    What about Namefagging?

    I vote we salvage. With Calvin's condition stable, we can visit him later. We, and by extension, The Principality of Zeon, will need any advantage they can get.
    >> Holdout !bSYiFCKrn6 02/11/11(Fri)14:30 No.13865003
    >>13864965
    Voting for salvage and sending the Nact-Zaku and Calvin ahead on the other ships already heading towards Pezun.
    >> VotingGuy 02/11/11(Fri)14:31 No.13865011
    >>13864965
    I'm voting to depart

    I can't be arsed to figure out how to operate a tripcode, so I've assumed a name, I hope that's adequate.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)14:31 No.13865016
    >>13864955

    Oh, don't worry about the whole revenge thing.

    Gihren's only alive because he hasn't been visible, or else Char would have gone after him. And this isn't "Gundamquest: Let's rehash everything like you want it". Read through the two years worth of posts on suptg and get an idea of what's going on, or else you'll be wasting rage on innocent parties.
    >> Crix !!nLvSV/0cRma 02/11/11(Fri)14:31 No.13865017
    >>13864965
    Salvage, if it's possible we could transfer Calvin and any other wounded zeon soldiers to another ship that would head straight to pezun.
    >> Tripfagging 02/11/11(Fri)14:33 No.13865030
    >>13864965
    Depart
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)14:35 No.13865044
    ... so, Hovis died, then? If you asked me, I'd have expected this to happen months ago. But still, damn, I wouldn't have thought that the death of a character on an internet quest, of all things, would be such a burn...

    I suppose it's the result of slowly getting accustomed, and attached to these adventures.
    >> Holdout !bSYiFCKrn6 02/11/11(Fri)14:35 No.13865048
    >>13865017
    >f it's possible we could transfer Calvin and any other wounded zeon soldiers to another ship that would head straight to pezun.
    Exactly. There are other ships going straight to Pezun, and some to Solomon. They'll have the space to take on Calvin and the Nacht-Zaku.
    There is no good medical reason for the Outer Heaven to have to be the ship to take Calvin to a better medical facility, rather than some other ship that can make the trip just as fast.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)14:45 No.13865136
    >>13865044

    Hovis also got seriously wounded in Hawaii, losing a leg. He's been our MA specialist the whole time, and has saved our collective asses more than once. Right up to the end.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/11/11(Fri)14:47 No.13865148
    4 for Salvage
    2 for Depart

    The order is to salvage. As for transferring the most badly damaged units to another ship as well as Calvin to Pezun, there are no available ships from your contingent with space for the Mobile Suits.
    It's possible that some of the ships from Grenada or Solomon might have space though. Asking them reveals that there is a Musai class vessel that is returning to Pezun with a destroyed kommusai pod and a near empty hangar bay if you want to use that.

    YOUR ORDERS?

    BRB DINNER.
    >> Holdout !bSYiFCKrn6 02/11/11(Fri)14:50 No.13865180
    >>13865148
    We'll load up Calvin and the Nacht-Zaku on that Musai, then.
    >> Darkstar 02/11/11(Fri)14:51 No.13865190
    Voting for salvage.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)14:57 No.13865252
    >>13864955
    Not everything, but Gihren really IS that much of a douche even in canon. The jury is still out on how much Degwin knew about Gihren's misdeeds. He didn't know everything, but I find it hard to believe that he was totally ignorant either.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)15:16 No.13865429
    Granted, the thing is pretty much mission-killed at this point, but if we send it back then we'll be out of the fight personally until we get back to it, right? I'm all for seeing if we can grab some salvage while we watch the rear of our battlegroup. And the sooner Calvin gets that eye looked at by someone more qualified than a field medic the better I'll feel.

    Later on we should see if we can get the exam system added to the list of banned war practices that WMDs and attacks against civilian targets are on. Mobile suits driven by a computer filled with tormented souls that slowly drive their pilots crazy does not strike me as a technology that civilized nations should be involved with.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)15:20 No.13865465
    >>13865429
    The war is almost over at the point. We can use that as a bargaining chip during peace negotiations.
    >> Arty 02/11/11(Fri)15:27 No.13865533
    >>13865148
    If anything it might be better for the OH to leave for Pezun while the Musai with the missing shuttle uses the extra space for salvage. That way we wuldnt have to move a critically injured pilot out of the Medbay, through space in an EVA medi-pod and onto another ship.

    Our two least damaged team mates could remain to help protect the other ship. Also if we needed David to vacate the MS bay for any reason he could stand on the hull with a beam rifle ready to snipe anyone that posed a threat.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)15:50 No.13865746
    So it's been close to 3 hours and nothing has happened.
    >> NewGuy 02/11/11(Fri)15:56 No.13865792
    Wow, first time looking through tg and I find zeon quest. Cool! Read the whole damn thing last week- Could help but imagine the Gigas as painted like a giant cycloptic skull wearing a humorously small sombrero.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/11/11(Fri)15:59 No.13865823
    >>13865746

    It hasn't been 3 hours. 1 at most.

    You opt to salvage anything useful from the battlefield whilst you still have time. A lot of the wrecks are drifting back towards the earth, you aren't sure if that's not going to be a problem for those below, but right now that's not your primary concern.

    You have your damaged mobile suits transferred along with Calvin to another vessel heading towards Pezun. Several of your techs and medical staff go with them.

    You spend an hour trying to salvage as much as you can before it becomes too dangerous to try and salvage from the ruined ships as they begin re-entry.

    SALVAGE RESULTS

    3 GM Shields
    8 Beam Spray Guns
    3 GM Command Beam Rifles
    2 GM Machine Guns
    1 Hyper-Bazooka
    3 330mm Rick Dom Bazooka
    1 Beam Bazooka
    1 Gyan Shield
    A reasonably amount of salvagable UMP parts of all varieties.
    Boxer Shield.

    12 zeonic survivors rescued from the debris
    14 POW's taken.

    No intact Mobile Suits were found.
    >> Arty 02/11/11(Fri)16:02 No.13865857
    >>13865823
    >12 zeonic survivors rescued from the debris

    FUCK YES.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)16:03 No.13865873
    >12:53
    >15:50
    >> NewGuy 02/11/11(Fri)16:04 No.13865881
    >>13865823

    Do we know anything about Hovis's family? if not make note to self to find out.

    Need to know where to send the letter.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)16:07 No.13865914
    >>13865857

    Statistically their from Char's forces...so lol.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)16:09 No.13865933
    >>13865823

    Figured finding an intact suit in all that was doubtful- still, at least we've got a decent pile of replacement parts. Pezun, gentlemen?
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/11/11(Fri)16:12 No.13865964
    >>13865881
    I may have mentioned something earlier. Like back in last April earlier.
    Essentially, he was estranged from his wife with one daughter in some way. You never found out if he was just divorced or if they died I don't think.

    >>13865914

    Be fair, they DID survive for several hours against a fleet which had them outgunned and outnumbered by a significant margin.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)16:14 No.13865974
    >12 zeonic survivors rescued from the debris

    looks like we've found our replacements.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)16:15 No.13865987
    >>13865964

    And, y'know...they had Char. That alone drops your survival rate as an MS pilot. :P

    In any case- let's see if we can get any useful information from the Federation survivors, and find out how many of those Zeon ones are pilots (and if so, are they in any shape to drive a suit?).
    >> Holdout !bSYiFCKrn6 02/11/11(Fri)16:17 No.13866005
    >>13865933
    Yes. Now we can get to Pezun.
    >> Arty 02/11/11(Fri)16:20 No.13866024
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    >>13864743
    >The kill tally is much more heartening however, aside from a large number of GM's easily numbering into the 20's there are a couple of high end Mobile Suits reported destroyed,
    I hope that was meant to be 200's because you said we'd killed 30 GM's in the opening attack.

    >>13864374
    >the Heavy Gundam has been destroyed.
    And here I thought we were fighting the 5th gundam in that fight. It's easy to see why, they both have big gatling weapons.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)16:23 No.13866059
    what ever we do treat the POWs well we are still knights of the realm.

    lets gtfo to hiding some spare MS in a safe place just in case we need some down the road things seem to be getting bad
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/11/11(Fri)16:46 No.13866286
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    Some of the survivors are injured, and a few more will probably want to rejoin their units now that you've picked them up. It'd probably be best to wait until you return to Pezun to start headhunting people.

    >>13866005

    The journey back to Pezun is a sombre one. The only saving grace is that at least this time the Outer Heaven wont need to be repaired as badly as last time.

    You arrive two hours later, the mobile suits and personnel you sent on ahead should have arrived an hour before. As the Outer Heaven dock inside the large asteroid base, which is once again the scene of much chaos and activity. Lately it seems that you only ever arrive here to deliver bad news.
    Strauss is there to welcome you at the gate.

    "I heard what happened. It looks like our luck just ran out."

    "I suppose" you despondantly respond.

    "I know it's not really what you want to be thinking about right now, but there is a priority call from the Flanagan Institute as well as from Legitimacy command on Grenada asking for clarification about your current command hierachy position now that Garma has realistically removed himself from the tactical net for the time being. I also started forwarding orphan pilot survivors from the battle who lost their unit. Oh, and I think the Cyclops Special Forces division is requesting pilots from your unit, I'd understand if you turned them down though. In anycase I've forwarded all mail to your office on the station as usual."

    "Thanks, I suppose."

    "Try to keep yourself busy David, it helps."

    You thank Strauss for his concern and make your way to your office.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)16:49 No.13866318
    >>13866286
    Well let's check our mail.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)16:50 No.13866325
    >>13866286
    Well, seems like we're a fully independent unit now. Under command of David Lister alone. At least for the time being.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/11/11(Fri)16:53 No.13866350
    FIRST MESSAGE

    FROM: Dr Flanagan, Flanagan Institute Director
    SUBJECT: Trial loan of assets

    Dear Command Lister, I am writing this request to you under somewhat unusual circumstances. Traditionally any Flanagan Institute military assets are, whilst coordinated tactically by the military still monitored and cared for by Flanagan personel and still remain fundamentally part of the Flanagan Institutes listed assets.

    However, due to astringent requests by the asset in question, as well as a similar precedent in the case of Lalah Sune, I am offering you the following to be inducted directly into the "Nactmaren Unit" chain of command, under your direct command: 1 Prototype Elmeth Newtype Psychommu Attack Mobile Armour and 1 Nell Dyland.

    Understandably you may refuse this offer if you wish, and I only make it due to assurances from her immiediate handlers that this will not be an undue risk of our assets. Your longstanding campaign record is another reassuring factor in this.

    The assets in question should already have been forwarded to Pezun Research Station by the time you receive this letter, and I await your response.

    END
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)16:53 No.13866354
    >>13866325
    Or better yet, we get promoted tp Garma's position.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)16:53 No.13866355
    >>13866286
    So read mail find out about zeong, loot zeong rape every feddy ever.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)16:55 No.13866362
    >>13866350
    >nell replace hovis
    >mixed feeling but I am fine with this
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)16:55 No.13866369
    >>13866350
    FUCK

    YES
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)16:56 No.13866372
    >>13866350

    >Nell replaces Hovis
    >Hovis & Nell working in tandem

    If only...
    >> Zeta Zaku 02/11/11(Fri)16:57 No.13866376
    >>13866350
    Well, this will be...interesting. At least we'll have Jo to look after her.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)16:57 No.13866379
    >>13866362
    Either way Nell has some big shoes to fill.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)16:58 No.13866388
    >>13866350

    So, David Lister. Many wish to be the little girl. Will you be the little girl's surrogate father?

    (At least with an Elmeth, she won't be in the front line as much.)
    >> Arty 02/11/11(Fri)16:59 No.13866400
    >>13866362
    Same. I'm kinda worried about how stable Nell will be with us nearby on a semi-regular basis.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/11/11(Fri)16:59 No.13866406
    MESSAGE 2

    From: Admiral Kycillia Zabi

    Normally I would leave this discussion for my subordinates, but given your position as my brothers personal elite corps I consider you worthy of more respect.

    Lord Garma's decision to mount a guerilla campaign in america against the Federation has realistically placed himself outside of a position where he can give acceptable level of command to units outside of the earth.
    At this point in time this accounts for two units, your's and that of the Ral team.

    I have contacted the Ral team already and I accept his stongly worded position to maintain neutrality in his current duties, and that falling under Legitimacy command would damage Zeon's case against bringing our brother Gihren to justice for the crimes against humanity he is responsible for.

    Your unit however, given it's propensity for destruction would probably be better used if it was part of the legitimacy tactical network. I expect your response on this matter forthwith, as understandably time is now very much an endagered resource for us all.

    Lord Kycillia out.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)17:00 No.13866413
    >>13866350
    Elmeth.

    We have defeated many tragedies of the 0079. But can we defeat this one? Only one thing is clear.

    May it be David Lister's finest hour.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)17:00 No.13866423
    >>13866400
    Nell was more or less fine with us last time we saw her. I suppose that as long as we don't go newtypespace on her it should be fine.
    >> Holdout !bSYiFCKrn6 02/11/11(Fri)17:03 No.13866456
    >>13866350
    Accept Nell into the Nachtmaren.
    Others may think it wasteful of such a powerful MA, but I'd prefer to use Nell and the Elmeth in a Recon/Sniper role, disabling capital ships by hitting their engines and hangar bays.

    As for where we are in the command hierarchy, I think we should try to stay independent, or perhaps get ourselves attached to Dozle and Solomon until Garma's return.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)17:04 No.13866459
    >>13866406
    I agree to being put under the tactical network but tell her the we reserve ourselve the right to refuse order we deem suicidal and that we'll want some space to do things our own way.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)17:06 No.13866482
    >>13866406
    Accept Nell into our group.

    Remain independent. Team up with Ral's team. NEW NACHTMAREN!
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/11/11(Fri)17:07 No.13866485
    MESSAGE 3

    Cyclops SpecOpsFor Command

    [TOP SECRET, EYES ONLY]

    Recently one of our Cyclops teams engaged an enemy production facitility in the polar regions. Whilst the facility was destroyed, it was able to transfer a prototype mobile suit to space. Said Cyclops team is currently pursuing the prototype into space, and our suspected intel leads us to believe that it is heading for a supposedly neutral colony in side 6.
    The Cyclops team in question however is currently understrength, and I am requesting personell from your unit to make up the numbers and to secure victory.

    Obviously I don't want to poach your best pilots, I was thinking Petty Officer Bernard Wiseman?

    I hope you agree to this demands. Whilst I can't claim that the fate of Zeon hangs in the balance of this mission, or have my words as weighted as Lord Garma or Lord Admiral Dozle, all I can do tell you that one man could make all the difference in this mission.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)17:07 No.13866491
    >>13866456
    Garma's going to be on Earth until the end of the war. He's out of the picture by now.

    And realistically, ever since we came to space, we've been acting by our own accord. Garma's been out of contact most of the time, and we made our own decisions. I say we continue to do the same.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)17:07 No.13866495
    >>13866413
    >>13866423

    I think we need to talk to Nell first.

    Is this a case of her wanting to join us, or being shoved into the front lines? She's a little girl, and hearing her called an "asset" gives me the creeps.

    We talk to her before she joins us. And preferrably have someone with psychological experience observing it and get opinions from there.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)17:09 No.13866512
    >>13866485
    Well we're on our own now, and Bernard is as much a full member of the team as any of us. (He's also not one of our main characters), so it's for him to decide.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)17:09 No.13866513
    >>13866485
    >gundam Alex
    >Calvin has a zaku kai over a zaku II
    >he also has more experience
    >go for it big boy
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)17:10 No.13866519
    >>13866485
    HAMBURGER TIME!
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)17:10 No.13866520
    >>13866513
    Calvin is out of combat for the foreseeable future, what with him losing half of his face.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)17:11 No.13866536
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    >>13866519
    >> Holdout !bSYiFCKrn6 02/11/11(Fri)17:11 No.13866542
    >>13866485
    ....No. If Bernie goes, we all go.
    On the plus side, we might be able to capture the Alex.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)17:11 No.13866543
    >>13866520
    I derped I meant bernard
    >> Zeta Zaku 02/11/11(Fri)17:13 No.13866562
    >>13866456
    That's essentially what the Elmeth already does. SOP is for it to hide away somewhere and send bits to blow shit up. Lalah became the Ghost of Solomon doing exactly that, since the Feds couldn't figure out how their battleships kept exploding themselves to death at berth.

    Also, Operation Rubicon time. Bernie should go, with our blessing.
    >> Arty 02/11/11(Fri)17:14 No.13866576
    >>13866406
    >>13866459
    I tend to agree. We wont follow orders that will break that Antarctic treaty. That doesnt mean we wont get creative in a hurry if pressed on it.
    “Never tell people how to do things. Tell them what to do and they will surprise you with their ingenuity.” -George Patton

    >>13866485
    Bernie is a true Ace pilot now hands down. The guy was going toe to toe with EXAM suits in that last battle. I'm reluctant to send him but we all know that's based on meta knowledge. How long do we have to decide on it? We might want to talk to Bernie first.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)17:14 No.13866579
    >>13866542
    That would be too much. The rest of our team can be put to better use somewhere else.
    >> Darkstar 02/11/11(Fri)17:19 No.13866631
    Wiseman can't go alone, although this isn't the canon storyline, wiseman died in the canon trying to capture/destroy the Alex.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)17:21 No.13866644
    >>13866631
    he was a rookie
    he had a zaku II
    >he is an ace
    >he has a zaku kai
    >> Holdout !bSYiFCKrn6 02/11/11(Fri)17:24 No.13866688
    Okay, admittedly most of my concerns about sending Bernie alone are from meta knowledge.
    Yes, he's an ace pilot now, rather than just a rookie. But with all of the changes we've made to the timeline, can we really be sure that his opposition hasn't gotten better as well?
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)17:24 No.13866697
    >>13866631
    I'm worried that the Feds might send Amuro or another ace to protect it, if it's as important as everybody believes.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)17:25 No.13866699
    >>13866579

    This is a somewhat frightening thought but...

    ...capturing the Alex and using it against Amuro.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)17:25 No.13866708
    >>13866697
    Amuro's caught up in these massive space battles we keep having. The Feds aren't going to send him off to protect a prototype suit, even if it is a good one.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)17:25 No.13866711
    >>13866485

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZULhqmhv3o

    BECAUSE WE KNOW THE FIRST ATTACK WORKED SO WELL. OBVIOUSLY THE SECOND GOES EXCEEDINGLY TO PLAN.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)17:25 No.13866712
    Accept Nell into the Nachtmaren, but for God's sake don't give her waking nightmares again.

    What exactly is Kycillia asking us for here? To openly throw in with the Legitimacy (a good choice, since Garma's off the grid for the rest of the war and we obviously aren't going to side with fucking Gihren) or to side specifically with her?

    Ask Bernie what he thinks about tagging along with the Cyclops. Tell him we have a hunch this could be important, but it's up to him. (And then Bernie returns in time for Christmas bearing gifts of Alex.)
    >> Zeta Zaku 02/11/11(Fri)17:26 No.13866716
    >>13866644
    He had a Zaku Kai in the OVA too, though it was pretty banged up, had nothing but a heat hawk, and was running off of parts he bought at Radio Shack. And he still managed to mangle one of the Alex's arms and cut off its head.

    And now we've turned him into KING OF THE CHAINMINES, DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH GRENADES. He can easily handle this on his own. The Cyclops Team is all aces as well.
    >> Arty 02/11/11(Fri)17:26 No.13866719
    >>13866644
    Actually he had the exact same suit in 0080 as he does right now. He's just a much better pilot now and he's got a tricked out Marine Gyan shield.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)17:27 No.13866726
    Accept Nell.

    Don't side with anyone. Remain "neutral" so far as we oppose Gihren and fight for a good Zeonic peace.

    Let Bernie go if he wants to. Don't force him.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/11/11(Fri)17:28 No.13866737
    >>13866631
    >>13866708

    >Amuro's caught up in these massive space battles we keep having. The Feds aren't going to send him off to protect a prototype suit, even if it is a good one.

    The Alex was meant for him. If you think him with the Solomon Express is bad, you aint seen nothing yet if you let him get that thing.
    >> Darkstar 02/11/11(Fri)17:28 No.13866741
    >>13866644

    So you think the scenario is going to be exactly the same EXCEPT Wiseman is a better pilot? I still wouldn't send him alone.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)17:29 No.13866754
    >>13866716
    don't forget "OH GOD I ATTACKED AND SURVIVED JABURO TWICE" I also think his Zaku kai can handle beam weapon now
    >> Strategist 02/11/11(Fri)17:32 No.13866776
    >>13866688
    you're probably right about the alex being more dangerous. If you remember, in the last battle the MP pixie had a wrist mounted gun, very similar to the alex, if the mobile suite in question even IS the alex. For all we know, with all of the changes it could be a massively overpowered monster equipped with bits or something.

    I think we are going to need to be upgrading the natch zaku -again-, and i came up with a couple of ideas. First, the pixies had a wrist mounted gun, we should go for one of those in one arm, preferebly a beam gun. Even if it doesnt have the long range of a rifle, or even the carbine we had for a while, it would be a very nasty surprise in the close to mid range battles we seem to be getting in so much. Also, a couple of single shot bits would be a nasty surprise, even if we only get like 2 shots, in the middle of a sword fight, that would seriously mess up anyone.

    Also, for calvin. A loooong tim ago we captured a rail gun, i was thinking a sniper rifle version of that would be a fairly effective weapon, because you can shoot and scoot, and since it isnt a beam it should be somewhat harder to track back to the shooter. Would be nice if we had some sort of contact beam explosive for the payload.
    >> Darkstar 02/11/11(Fri)17:32 No.13866777
    >>13866737

    I'm for going after the prototype mobile suit, just not for taking a chance on losing a good pilot, I'd rather send a 2-3 man team.
    >> Holdout !bSYiFCKrn6 02/11/11(Fri)17:34 No.13866796
    >>13866737
    Amuro must not get the Gundam Alex.

    Why not send Bernie and one other (Zolomon). I would feel much better if there was someone to watch Bernie's back.

    As for throwing in with the Legitimacy, I think we should, whether it be as another independent command under Kycilla or even completely independent.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)17:35 No.13866806
    >>13866796
    If we're going to be fully independent, then let's not side with anyone and fight for "The good of Zeon" as a whole.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/11/11(Fri)17:36 No.13866814
    >>13866776
    If you remember, in the last battle the MP pixie had a wrist mounted gun, very similar to the alex

    Mathematically similar in fact.

    It never came up, but all of the Pixies had customised loadouts.

    1 had Arm Gatlings
    Another had a Gundam Hammer
    One had Beam Sabers instead of daggers
    The last had beam blades fitted into his reverse forearm mount and knees.
    A couple switched to beam weaponry luckily for you, which hampered them in the battle.
    >> Darkstar 02/11/11(Fri)17:36 No.13866817
    >>13866796

    This.
    >> Holdout !bSYiFCKrn6 02/11/11(Fri)17:37 No.13866825
    >>13866776
    Well, for a nasty surprise, why not cut down one of the GM beam spray guns we salvaged and bolt it on to one of the Nacht-Zaku's arms.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)17:38 No.13866834
    Federation doesn't have psycommu so no bits for them the alex is just vastly superior to everything else by itself
    >> Arty 02/11/11(Fri)17:38 No.13866838
    >>13866776
    >Also, for calvin. A loooong tim ago we captured a rail gun, i was thinking a sniper rifle version of that would be a fairly effective weapon, because you can shoot and scoot, and since it isnt a beam it should be somewhat harder to track back to the shooter.

    I was thinking the same thing, mainly because it cant be blocked by beam chaff. Unfortunately we only had so much time before leaving Pezun last time and Bernie was in need of an upgrade more than anyone.
    Calvin is also out of the fight now for what could be for the rest of the war. Whoever we get to fill the open space(s) left by him should carry one. Recon pilots should not be engaging at close range.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)17:38 No.13866840
    >>13866825
    I want to have them replacing our head vulcan.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)17:39 No.13866844
    Here's a thought:

    Send Zolomon with Bernie in to capture or destroy the Alex. If they end up fighting inside a colony, Zolomon's close combat skills are legendary.

    Talk to the Institute about spending a bit of time there training with Nell and getting our techs familiar with the Elmeth before we roll out. With a little luck, we kill two birds with one stone. Tell Kycilla we'll be ready to help once we've gotten the gaping holes in our lineup filled with new and effective pilots.
    >> Holdout !bSYiFCKrn6 02/11/11(Fri)17:40 No.13866853
    >>13866806
    The problem with that is getting access to spare parts and resupply.
    Ramba Ral can afford to stay completely independent, because he's sitting on those nukes and won't be fighting anyone.

    We're going repeatedly back into the thick of the fighting, and will need to stop in for repairs, spare parts, ammunition, and support facilities like we're doing right now. This would be much easier to get if we side with the Legitimacy.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)17:40 No.13866855
    >>13866844
    We aren't exactly carrying around pockets full of time though.
    >> Darkstar !!qNC62NaRJ6C 02/11/11(Fri)17:41 No.13866859
    >>13866825
    Yet again if plausible sounds like a good idea.
    >> NewGuy 02/11/11(Fri)17:41 No.13866861
    I'm for sending Bernie. And as for joining the legitimacy- I am all for it as long as Kycillia knows were Garma's man.
    >> Strategist 02/11/11(Fri)17:42 No.13866870
    we should probably get ourselves under Dozle, hes the one that can make best use of us. Also, he would let us go and hunt down the people responsible for creating EXAM, so thats a plus. We might want to question anyone who might know about EXAM while we are waiting for our suits to get fixed up. Then, we should send the entire unit after the Alex, so we can get a handle on what their current gundam is like, and what they might be aiming for in the future. Also, the designers might know of a lead we can use to hunt down the EXAM MS production line. Hovis will be avenged.

    >>13866825
    I don't think they have enough punch to shoot through a gundam, which is where we would probaby be needing it the most.

    >>13866838
    The best person to have sniping is the person keeping out of the battle, and scouts have to be good at analyzing everything they see fast, then they call in the artillery wherever it would do the most good. Pretty much my thoughts on the matter.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)17:44 No.13866896
    >>13866870
    I actually like the sound of siding with Dozle. Though not really "under" him as much as beside him.

    We do know him much much better than we know Kycilla. And from what we (the characters) have heard, she is kind of underhanded. Dozle is the most honest after Garma.
    >> StJava 02/11/11(Fri)17:46 No.13866905
    You know what. . .

    What do you think are Bernie's abilities right now Apologised? I never saw the main series in which Bernie died. I can't make an educated decision without knowing what he did before and how he's changed now.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)17:47 No.13866916
    >>13866896
    Being under kycillia mean we get higher priority for s psycommu suit though.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/11/11(Fri)17:47 No.13866918
    Firstly you decide to give the greenlight to having Nell in your unit. You decide to see her handlers to see how she's holding up.

    Sara still seems to be with her, and she recognises you from earlier.

    "So, how's Nell feel about being assigned to us?" You ask.

    "It was mostly her idea. She asked out of the blue shortly after she put herself forward for Elmeth pilot tests. Given that she wasn't doing her neuromancy readings anymore..."

    "...what? I thought that was her primary role in the Flanagan Institute?"

    "It was, she basically refused flat out to perform them any further. When pressured she either went flat out non-responsive or starting getting highly agitated, constantly screaming something about how "she can't stop it" or "it's not my fault". So, the institute was happy that she was trying to keep herself useful and given that she's already got combat experience she's proven to be reasonbly effective in the Elmeth prototype."

    "Is there any difference between the prototype and the complete model."

    "Less armour plating, no decoration. But given that any hit will be a mission kill these days with beam weapons everywhere, it's not considered a problem. The armour on the Elmeth proper is mostly just for aesthetics anyway."

    NELL DYLAND HAS JOINED THE NACHTMAREN.
    >> St. Java The Incandescent, King of Good Vibrations 02/11/11(Fri)17:47 No.13866919
    >>13866896
    >>13866870


    YES BRILLIANT
    SIDE WITH DOZLE
    THIRDED AND SIGNED!
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)17:47 No.13866920
    >>13866916
    Yeah, but that's too meta. What would David choose to do?
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)17:48 No.13866924
    >>13866777

    Actually, since the Nacht Zaku's pretty much fucked at this point, trying to yoink the Alex for David to use sounds like a good plan. Sadly, trying to finagle our way into the mission would be too meta. We'll just have to count on Bernie to pull through before the war ends.

    In the meantime, we should hold a service for Hovis, make sure Calvin's healing up, meet with Nell, and respond to Kycillia. Might want to ask what the crew thinks of throwing in with her first, though.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)17:48 No.13866931
    You know the more I think about it the more I am convinced that Our newtype power is like Bastila's battle meditation anyone else agree?
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)17:49 No.13866937
    >>13866918
    Get her shit painted like a skeleton shark.

    And yeah, definitely go with Dozle.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)17:49 No.13866943
    >>13866931
    I don't know what any of that means.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)17:51 No.13866964
    >>13866920
    Well we know about psycommu and we know about the psycommu zaku since we fought it. Honestly though David would probably agree to help but tell her his unit is still Garma and that he gave us commands so we reserve ourselve a veto on mission and how we handle them. Sidding with her also mean we can keep contact with Flanagan for bits and part for the helmet.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)17:52 No.13866970
    Send Bernie to go with the Cyclops if he wants to.

    AND SIDE WITH DOZLE. NOT REALLY SIDE, BUT BE ALL, "WE TRUST YOU MORE THAN HER." ALSO, DO WHAT WE WANT, DONT TAKE NO ORDERS. WE BIG BOSS NOW.
    >> St. Java The Incandescent, King of Good Vibrations 02/11/11(Fri)17:53 No.13866986
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    I seriously think siding with Dozle is what David would do. We know the man. He referee'd our game with the now dearly departed Black Tri-Stars. He is a boss. We saved his brother. He's practically an older brother to us.

    As far as I've seen right now, he's a good guy. Take the third option. We are garma's- and as long as that is true, we stick with the closest thing TO garma- and that is Dozle.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)17:55 No.13866999
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    >>13866986
    >>13866970
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/11/11(Fri)17:56 No.13867013
    >>13866825
    >>13866840
    >>13866859

    Beam Spray Pistols, even cut down, are much too big to be used as head vulcans. You could however have them placed inside your forearms, but this would mean removing the Heat Rod from whichever armour you mount them to.

    >>13866905

    Bernie, whilst not as good a pilot as some of the monster oldtypes of this era such as Gato Ramba Ral, Yuu Kajima, or Sleggar he is easily on par with second tier oldtypes such as Cima Girahou, Shiro Amada, Johhnny Ridden and Shin Matsunaga.
    His primary skill is the use of munitions such as grenades, panzerfausts and chainmines in inventive ways as well as an intuitive lateral way of approaching tactical problems.

    He's a solid all-rounder who, whilst not as explosively effective as some of those aces listed, is eminently more reliable.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)17:57 No.13867023
    >>13867013
    Sounds like he'd be good support for the Cyclopsisesesesesees
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)17:57 No.13867024
    Kycillia lost 80% of her MS/Ships so she clearly need us more though.
    >> Strategist 02/11/11(Fri)17:58 No.13867039
    Dozle is in command of the space attack forces right? Thats what we do best. I figure acting as a detached unit under him would be probably the best use of our skills. he gives us overall orders, and we come up with crazy (read: explosive) ways to complete them.

    >>13867013
    how effective is a beam spray weapon against a gundam at close range? Would it have the power to blow through their armor?
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)17:59 No.13867045
    I know this is late, but is there any chance we could salvage the remains of the pixi that killed Hovis?
    I know it was half destroyed but that's still a lot of Gundamium we might be able to use.
    >> St. Java The Incandescent, King of Good Vibrations 02/11/11(Fri)18:00 No.13867050
    >>13867013

    Alright. How do you think he's improved compared to "canon"? And I seriously need to find a torrent of this series or something. I think it'd make this quest so much more fun. All I had was gundam wing zero off of toonami when I was growing up and Endless Waltz movie with them too.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)18:00 No.13867053
    >>13867024

    Point. I suggest we put it before the team and get their input.
    >> St. Java The Incandescent, King of Good Vibrations 02/11/11(Fri)18:01 No.13867065
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    >>13867024
    We also don't have much reason to trust her.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)18:02 No.13867067
    >>13867045

    The Pixie that killled Hovis was vaporized. Most of the ones we killed seemed to have been reduced to scrap as well.

    Besides, I'm not even sure the cut-down Pixies use Gundanium in the first place.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/11/11(Fri)18:04 No.13867092
    >>13867067

    They do, and the one that killed Hovis was mostly vapourised. You found and retrieved the central torso block which was all that was left.
    The cockpit doors were open, and the cockpit was empty.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)18:05 No.13867100
    >>13867067
    They do. Like most gundam of the OYW. That's what make them different from GM.
    >> St. Java The Incandescent, King of Good Vibrations 02/11/11(Fri)18:05 No.13867101
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    >>13867067
    No it wasn't. I just lost all its limbs. And the cockpit was open. I think it was implied that the dude escaped.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)18:06 No.13867109
    >>13867065
    THAT GIF IS AMAZING
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)18:06 No.13867117
    >>13867065
    we don't have reason to not trust her other than meta knowledge either.
    >> Strategist 02/11/11(Fri)18:07 No.13867122
    Hmm, now that we have the Elmeth, we know what a bit is right? Could we try and tune one or two to David, and mount them on the back of whatever suit we end up in? It would be a pretty effective surprise, even if we only get two shots. The real reason an all range attack was so nasty was because you didnt know it was happening until the beam was shooting at you. Imagine having that duel with teh blue destiny, and in the middle of our beam sabre fight, a bit pops up from under his feet, and shoots right at him? Even if it doesnt kill or criple, that would be enough of a distraction to let us get a kill with other weapons.

    >>13867101
    Implied nothing. We know hes out there, and hes on the top of the list of people that absolutely must die. Even above Gihren, at least until space Hilter does something that gets us more pissed at him.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)18:08 No.13867131
    What the fuck is a bit?
    >> Holdout !bSYiFCKrn6 02/11/11(Fri)18:09 No.13867150
    >>13867122
    It wouldn't work, because of the space requirements for the psycommu system.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/11/11(Fri)18:10 No.13867151
    >>13867117

    Maybe not, but a lot of the arguments for Dozle do make sense.

    The vast majority of you seem to want to join with Dozle at Solomon for now, does that sound okay?

    Also, the NachtZaku can be repaired here in Pezun, but it will probably take about a day. Most of the internals aren't UPS unfortunately, still sometimes that's the price of performance.

    If you want those Beam Spray Pistols incoporated into your suit, now would be the time to say so, and how so.
    >> Zeta Zaku 02/11/11(Fri)18:10 No.13867157
    >>13867122
    Not really. The Elmeth's bits were titanic, about as big as a good-sized MS torso. There's also the issue that psycommu systems can't be made that small yet.
    >> St. Java The Incandescent, King of Good Vibrations 02/11/11(Fri)18:10 No.13867161
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    >>13867122
    Do we know the name of that dude? Or what his rank is? Or who was supposed to be piloting that thing?
    >>13867109

    Thanks. I think Apologised linked it AGES ago. I mean, it was close to the Black Tri-stars "Got Game?" achievement image I saved. >>13867117

    She's generally been terse if not outright rude. We've worked with Dozle. We haven't worked with her. She's shifty, and I don't know the reason behind that most people think she's shifty, but even I can tell she's shifty.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)18:10 No.13867162
    >>13867122
    We don't have a psycommu for them to work even if we install them.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)18:11 No.13867167
    >>13867131

    Basically a laser cannon connected to an engine that launches from it's command MS and is piloted with Newtype Jedi powers.
    >> St. Java The Incandescent, King of Good Vibrations 02/11/11(Fri)18:11 No.13867173
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    >>13867151
    Dozle and Shin! Yeah! Those guys are awesome!
    >> Holdout !bSYiFCKrn6 02/11/11(Fri)18:12 No.13867181
    >>13867151
    I'm fine with throwing in with Dozle.

    As for the beam spray gun, I'd like it mounted on the left forearm. That'll leave us with 1 heat rod, and with the holdout beam spray.
    >> Arty 02/11/11(Fri)18:12 No.13867183
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    >>13867013
    >Johhnny Ridden and Shin Matsunaga
    >Oldtypes
    Wtf am I reading?

    >Beam Spray Pistols, even cut down, are much too big to be used as head vulcans. You could however have them placed inside your forearms, but this would mean removing the Heat Rod from whichever armour you mount them to.

    Okay, put the beam spray gun in the left arm and take a GM shield. If we lose the shield for whatever reason that's the perfect opportunity to beam spray a fool in the face. Heat rod stays on the right arm so that we can still use it with the shield equipped. We might want to consider switching to a regular beam rifle over the carbine since the spray gun is good a close range.

    Talk to the team about Kycillia.
    >> Zeta Zaku 02/11/11(Fri)18:13 No.13867189
    >>13867151
    And yes, let's go with Dozle, though it wouldn't hurt to stay in touch with Kycilia.

    As for the Nact, let's go with one of each, heat rod and spraygun in opposite arms if we could.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/11/11(Fri)18:13 No.13867194
    >>13867122

    Impractical. Bit's a small remote units with a very small beam magazine (about 5 or less) when they finish firing they have to return to the Elmeth to recharge, much like the Beam Clip rechargers that most larger warships and bases now have. In fact much of the Elmeths size is due to needing this equipment. As of yet miniaturising that technology is not at a viable stage.

    There is the merits of the wire guided psychommu units used by the Psycommu Zaku prototypes, but even that technology is overly bulky and probably wouldn't mesh too well with your current suit.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)18:17 No.13867235
    >>13867194
    if we ever get our hand on a psycommu for our natch zaku we can always borrow nell bits anyways.
    >> St. Java The Incandescent, King of Good Vibrations 02/11/11(Fri)18:17 No.13867242
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    >>13867194
    Huh. Speaking of other suits, what's out there right now that's still more advanced than what David Lister is currently inside? On both the Feddy and Zeon (All zeon) sides.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)18:18 No.13867251
    >>13867183
    I like your ideas.

    Further modification possibilities(?):
    Put the beam spray gun so it comes out the bottom of the left forearm.
    Add some additional armor plating on the top of the left forearm.

    We can hold our shield and still fire out from our beam spray with surprise. And if we lose the shield, we've still got some sturdy armor on the top of our left arm to knock a fool with.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/11/11(Fri)18:20 No.13867270
    >>13867183

    I feel it would be remiss of me not to mention a third option to you on the subject of the Beam pistols.

    You COULD retrofit one into the center torso, sort of like what the Rick Dom's or the later Sazabi have. Although it would be impossible to reload from that position, and whilst the alternative of linking the gun DIRECTLY into the power reactor for infinite ammo is viable, that could strain performance of even your monstrously powerful reactors.

    This modification would take at least an extra day of work to perform. As is, replacing an arm will probably take an extra half a day's worth of time.
    >> Zeta Zaku 02/11/11(Fri)18:23 No.13867298
    >>13867270
    Is there enough room for that? The Dom series are fat suits, and the Sazabi was just HUEG overall. The Act's torso seems fairly compact in comparison.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)18:25 No.13867305
    Well everyone's going to need some time to repair and rest up. Get sleep. Get fed. Relax a little bit. We've been non stop for ages. Take some time, get our suits fitted up, and then let's head to Solomon and see Dozle.

    Let's get a beam spray attached to our left arm. On the underside so we can still use our shield and fire it at the same time.

    As for a chest gun, could it be internal, so as to surprise the enemy when we suddenly blast them from a small barrel they never noticed?
    >> Holdout !bSYiFCKrn6 02/11/11(Fri)18:25 No.13867312
    >>13867270
    Half a day doesn't seem like much of a difference, and it'll let us keep both heat rods.
    The holdout beam spray wasn't really meant for more than one or two shots, anyway.

    Oh, is the Elmeth Prototype equipped with AB Chaff pods, or any kind of anti-beam coating?
    >> Holdout !bSYiFCKrn6 02/11/11(Fri)18:28 No.13867333
    Also, last I could tell, people all seemed to agree that we need to stop the Alex from getting delivered.

    Will we send Bernie and Zolomon, or just Bernie?
    Zolomon's close-combat capability could be very helpful, and having backup for Bernie sounds better than sending him in alone.
    >> Arty 02/11/11(Fri)18:28 No.13867338
    >>13867270
    I'm still leaning towards mounting it in the arm. We'd be able to aim it far more effectively that way rather than having to move the entire suit.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)18:29 No.13867347
    While we've got some downtime, find Jolyne and just hang out with her for a second, then ask nonchalantly, "So after this is all over, want to get married?"
    >> St. Java The Incandescent, King of Good Vibrations 02/11/11(Fri)18:30 No.13867355
    >>13867333

    I don't want any of the team ever having to specifically operate alone. I'd send Zolomon and Bernie or no one at all.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)18:32 No.13867368
    >>13867355
    Bernie wouldn't be alone. He'd be with the rest of the Cyclops team.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)18:32 No.13867374
    APLOGIZED, CAN YOU TELL US ALL OF OUR NEWTYPE POWERS? FINALLY?
    >> Holdout !bSYiFCKrn6 02/11/11(Fri)18:33 No.13867377
    >>13867368
    Yeah, and we know how well THAT turned out in the canon timeline.
    >> St. Java The Incandescent, King of Good Vibrations 02/11/11(Fri)18:33 No.13867381
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    >>13867368
    He hasn't trained with them. He doesn't work with them like he'd work with one of the Nachtmaren.
    >> Darkstar !!qNC62NaRJ6C 02/11/11(Fri)18:36 No.13867400
    >>13867355
    Agreed.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)18:37 No.13867410
    >>13867377
    Bernie's different than canon (he's an ace in this timeline)
    >>13867381
    He didn't either in canon
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/11/11(Fri)18:38 No.13867418
    >>13867312

    No. Because it's supposed to operate almost 3km away from the combat zone.
    >> Strategist 02/11/11(Fri)18:42 No.13867438
    the whole point of having a beam weapon in hte arm is for the surprise factor. they think that they just removed either your weapon or your shield, and then suddenly BEAMTOTHEFACE! they are dead, or staggered enough to get killed in the next five seconds. the chest mounted one is also reliant on having the torso aimed in exactly the right direction, even if it can move a bit, its not as verseatile as the arm mounted one is. i also daresay we can manage to set it up so its possible to reload, even though we probably wouldnt carry more than a single spare clip for it, what with being a surprise weapon.

    >>13867400
    >>13867381
    Exactly. We should all go, because it gives us the best chance to capture the suit, and then we can tear it apart to find out what they intended it to do, and if we capture the designers we can potentially upgrade all of our current and future designs. They might also know something about the EXAM, which we should be hunting down ASAP.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)18:42 No.13867441
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    Probably not S Rank yet, but maybe around 800 exp.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)18:42 No.13867445
    >>13866986

    Garma would appreciate it, anyway. Dozle and Garma are (literally) bros after all, and frankly....I like his style.

    As for mounting a beam spray, I think it's best as an arm mount. Sure, limited ammo. But much better field of fire, and no risk of causing a reactor fault if we stress the power systems. Which we tend to do. A lot.
    >> Holdout !bSYiFCKrn6 02/11/11(Fri)18:42 No.13867446
    >>13867418
    Regardless, I want to make sure that in the off-chance that an enemy goes after Nell, that she has as many passive advantages as possible.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)18:44 No.13867461
    >>13867446
    The enemy won't even be aware nell exist if she does her job right
    >> Holdout !bSYiFCKrn6 02/11/11(Fri)18:46 No.13867476
    >>13867461
    Do you really want to depend entirely on that for Nell's defense?
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)18:49 No.13867501
    >>13867476
    Yes because unless she pulls a Lalah the fed won't ever see her.
    >> St. Java The Incandescent, King of Good Vibrations 02/11/11(Fri)18:57 No.13867564
    I just watched Bernie get offed in 80 over youtube. Who was that kid who kept running after him?
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)19:03 No.13867617
    I'd firmly put a vote into sending someone else along with Bernie, just to be safe. Nachtmaren needs to stay together as much as possible, now that we're taking losses.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)19:04 No.13867624
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    >> St. Java The Incandescent, King of Good Vibrations 02/11/11(Fri)19:06 No.13867634
    >>13867624
    Hm. What religion is Gihren?
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)19:08 No.13867649
    >>13867617
    Yeah, and sending away two of our pilots instead of one sure is keeping us all together.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)19:09 No.13867660
    >>13867649
    As much as possible. If we HAVE to split up the team, let's not let anyone end up solo.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/11/11(Fri)19:09 No.13867663
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    >>13867446

    Fitting an AB-Defence launcher pod or two on the P-Elmeth would be possible. The designs are already in final testing phase for shipboard use.

    You might notice a drop in maneouvability though.

    Anyway.

    You send a missive off to Solomon GHQ asking to be inserted into their chain of command. You wont be getting a response immiediately as it has to shoot up the totem pole.

    You order the fitting of a Beam Spray gun into your shield arm, and also nab one of the GM shields you salvaged. Works already underway, but they agree to your proposals, at this point Ookawara probably enjoys the challenge.

    MEDICAL REPORT OF CALVIN HOBART

    Left Eye has had to be removed, damage due to exploding glass shards was near total. Minimal nerve damage, there are currently no signs of brain damage.
    Nevertheless at least two weeks of observations is advised.

    Aside from the loss of his eye, he also sustained damage to the left side of his face due to exploding perspex fragments and electrical discharge. Some fragments caused minimal damage, others managed to penetrate deeply into the bone of the skull, although the brainpan was never breached.
    Scarring caused by fragments will most likely heal with minimal scarring in most places, burns will require plastic surgery to remove disfiguring scars however.
    Skull luckily shows no signs of fracturing at this time.

    Muscle damage to the mandibular region will require at least two weeks to heal as well, a neck-brace has been added.

    Overall time for recuperation: 4 to 5 weeks.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)19:10 No.13867668
    >>13867634
    I bet it's Gihrenism.
    The central beliefs are to be as huge a dick as humanly possible.
    Unsurprisingly, Gihren is both the equivalent of the Pope and Jesus.

    (note: I am currently sleep deprived, therefore, I find stuff more funny than it should be)
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)19:14 No.13867693
    >>13867564

    The kid is Al, the point-of-view character. He helps Bernie rebuild the Zaku, and is an all-together good kid.

    He is running and screaming because he has just found out that Bernie doesn't need to fight anymore (he was fighting to prevent a nuke attack, it was intercepted before it could happen). Bernie had resigned himself to fight to the death to destroy the Alex, and well.....
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/11/11(Fri)19:15 No.13867698
    >>13867668
    It's a pimped out version of Survival of Fittest ideology riding on top of Zeon's original ideas of Contolism called Survival of the Selected.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)19:16 No.13867703
    >>13867693
    since cyclop isn't under gihren no nuke so bernie will survive this
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)19:19 No.13867734
    ...The potential for Operation Rubicon seems too high. This does not sound good.

    I just hope we don't run into a RX-78XXNT-1 (what the hell happens when you put a newtype into contact with exam?) or some other XX equiped unit.

    Perhaps we should tag along?
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)19:23 No.13867761
    >>13867734
    Alex is for Newtype use so there will be no EXAM in it and we destroyed all the known pixies
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/11/11(Fri)19:30 No.13867808
    >>13867734

    You finally get in contact with Cyclops Command to get the lowdown.

    You ask about sending a second man as well.

    "Unfortunately that's a no go. Side 6 is neutral territory, and has been a no-fly zone for both forces for several months. Rals team has been allowed passage into Side 6 as they agreed to conduct the investigation into the Von-Braun incident, but nobody else. In order to infiltrate into Loum we've had to set up several dummy accounts, smuggling deals and work-arounds, and unfortunately we can't change them at this stage. We only have space for one more pilot, and he HAS to be added to the Cyclops team. Sorry, but whilst I more than appreciate the offer, we can't take an extra man at this point."

    Looks like that clarifies that. You also get a message from Admiral Lord Dozle at this point. You ask the Command Liason to hold the line, as Dozle is on the other. Knowing when he's been trumped, he agrees.

    "Your message was forwarded to me several minutes ago. I would be glad to take the fabled Nachtmaren Unit under my command! Please feel free to journey to Solomon and acclimatise yourself with our defensive measures!" Dozle tells you, larger than life as always.

    "What's the status of the Federation fleet Lord Admiral?" you inquire.

    "When they heard their reinforcements were coming, the Luna II forces started attacking aggressively, the Garrison forces were unable to hold and staged a multi-part retreat maneouver pulling back to their final defensive lines at Side 4. Wherupon the heavy defensive sattellite network afforded them some sanctuary. It looks like the federal forces will meet up and then move back to Luna II to reorganise themselves. I think the Federation is going to give us a couple of days at least to lick our wounds!"

    You thank Dozle for the information and his hospitality, and you tell him that you hope to take him up on his offer soon.

    Dozle cuts the connection, and Cyclops Command returns...
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)19:32 No.13867828
    Apologised, can we second Bernie to Cyclops for the duration of this mission, then have him returned to us? They'd essentially be a temporary duty assignment for him.

    We show him the Cyclops message, then say: "Bernie, I think this mission is important. You've seen firsthand what a powerful mobile suit in the hands of a good pilot can do. You're part of a team of such pilots, and one of our most dependable members. If the Federation gets this prototype into battle things will be bad.

    That said, if you go, this is just a temporary reassignment. You're a Nachtmaren, and we'll want you back. Stay alive, and if you need help, call us.

    Your call, Bernie."

    Make sure he has a private way to get in contact with us fast. If the mission goes to shit, Nachtmaren bails out Nachtmaren.
    >> Zeta Zaku 02/11/11(Fri)19:35 No.13867856
    >>13867828
    I think that was always the proposal here. The only reason they're requesting another man is because Andy Strauss died in the Alaska raid.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)19:36 No.13867871
    >>13867808

    Let Cyclops Command know we'll ask our man and get back to them ASAP. Less than an hour.
    >> St. Java The Incandescent, King of Good Vibrations 02/11/11(Fri)19:39 No.13867893
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    >>13867828
    Seconded and signed. If Bernie goes, it's his own decision. We gotta hope he's grown up and aided from what we've taught him, like Garma has.

    And if possible at all in the slightest, I want us close enough to help him. I like that line the other anonymous said.

    Nachtmaren bails out Nachtmaren.
    >> Darkstar !!qNC62NaRJ6C 02/11/11(Fri)19:39 No.13867897
    >>13867808
    I guess that settles it then. Ask Bernie if he's up to it and head out from there.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)19:40 No.13867903
    >>13867893

    I honestly don't see how we're gonna get to Side 6 from Pezun in a hurry. Hes effectively cut off from us.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/11/11(Fri)19:43 No.13867917
    >>13867828

    That's perfectly fine. He'd be going in undercover anyway.

    Command agrees to these terms. You finish your conversation and then begin to look through eligable pilots here in Pezun for induction into the Nachmaren team, you're going to need to replace Calvin at least from the sounds of it, plus if Bernards going then you'll need a new pilot to replace him too.
    Nell's MA should fit nicely inside the MA pod in the Outer Heaven and by tommorow evening you the repairs on all of your mobile suits should be fini-

    You wake up with to the sounds of the 7 o' clock alarm still set from last time you were here. Evidently you passed out on your desk from fatigue.
    To be frank you're amazed you haven't done it before now.

    You get a nasty shock when the bathroom mirror reveals a huge horrific black discolouration dominating your left cheek, until you realise it's just from where you fell asleep on a biro.

    You get yourself a much needed wash, shave and a shower to try and smooth out the aches and pains of what was probably over 2 days continous combat fatigue.

    You check your messages.

    It seems that at 10 there's going to be a military funeral for all of the lives lost yesterday. Zolomon has sent you message saying they're going to hold a personal remembrance for Hovis in the Officers quarters at 4pm in a pre-booked private room.

    Looks like it's going to be another long day. You get your dress uniform out of storage.
    >> MS-06FUCKYEAH !!HCw4miKyNa0 02/11/11(Fri)19:43 No.13867921
    >>13867893
    Ok, up to date. Missed it 'cause it wasn't on the front page!

    >>13867808
    See if we can send extra supplies with him. Enough for another Mobile Suit could be a serious boon in such a clandestine operation.

    Also, if we're going to add AB Chaff pods to the Elmeth why not a small, Battletech Style Anti-Missile System to take care of non-beam standoff weaponry?
    >> Strategist 02/11/11(Fri)19:47 No.13867948
    ungh. i dont want to send a single person off against the alex, but we dont really have a choice. If we dont send him, theres a good chance it escapes, and we get screwed by amuro when he receives it. We should give a huge amount of weapons to bernie to make up for this. Maybe a beam bazooka or two, or some custom explosives? Hell, tell him he has full access to the armory, and is to take anything he thinks he might need.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/11/11(Fri)19:48 No.13867958
    >>13867856
    >I think that was always the proposal here. The only reason they're requesting another man is because Andy Strauss died in the Alaska raid.


    ...you don't think?

    >>13867921
    >why not a small, Battletech Style Anti-Missile System to take care of non-beam standoff weaponry?

    That's what head vulcans are for, although some missiles simply have too high a speed to be intercepted this way.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/11/11(Fri)19:49 No.13867965
    >>13867948

    You AREN'T sending a single person against the Alex, you are sending one man to join a team of dedicated hardasses easly on par with the Midnight Fenrir to deal with the Alex.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)19:49 No.13867971
    >>13867921
    I'm strongly against any modification to the Elmeth it doesn't need improvement since it's current survival rate is 100% it will never see the frontline and to people that don't know what it is it's only a shuttle. Adding things on it only would make a big flashing red "Shoot me sign".
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/11/11(Fri)19:53 No.13868001
    >>13867971

    Even Airforce 1 has passive air defences like flares and chaff, and that's the most not designed for being on the front line of anything plane in the world. AB-Chaff dispensers are fine.

    Remember though, they wont stop a Beam Saber...
    >> Holdout !bSYiFCKrn6 02/11/11(Fri)19:53 No.13868008
    >>13867958
    Bernie to take whatever he needs from what we salvaged and from our armory.
    >> Strategist 02/11/11(Fri)19:54 No.13868016
    >>13867965
    Yeah, i know Bernie isnt the only one, but i meant out of natchmaren in whole, only he is going. The fact that they compare to midnight fenris does give me comfort though. I suppose his going away messege should include something like, i want you back in one piece, with a captured prototype proudly painted in natchmaren black? Also, offer anything in the armory that they think might be useful.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)20:09 No.13868128
    >>13868001
    Yes but seeing as the elmeth will need to stay next to stationary to stay in the beam chaff effect zone and that they'll just have to close on it... I'd take maneuverability over it.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)20:09 No.13868131
    >>13868016
    I'm just a bit wary that Bernie may not be able to take advantage of the unit cohesion and camaraderie he has with us. As far the Cyclops team are concerned, he's just a placeholder. A very skilled one, but a placeholder nonetheless.

    It's like grabbing an Green Beret and sticking him into a Navy SEAL team.
    >> Zeta Zaku 02/11/11(Fri)20:09 No.13868140
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    >>13868016
    It's disappointing how often people underestimate the Cyclops team. The four of them destroyed an entire garrison themselves, and Mikhail singlehandedly took out an elite MS team while drunk off his ass. Hell, their leader is voiced by Master Asia.

    Cyclops Team is motherfucking badass.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)20:11 No.13868155
    >>13868140

    and the Alex handled them like a bunch of mooks.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/11/11(Fri)20:11 No.13868158
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    The mass funeral is a sombre affair. Done with a depressingly level of precision honed by lots of practice by the pastoral staff.

    They give solemn speeches about about sacrifice for the greater good, and going on to a better place before launching what few coffins they had into space.
    The whole thing was a rather depressing affair and you're glad when it's over.

    The individual families will have to be informed of course, and they will probably hold civilian services of their own as well.
    Oh god, you have to inform Hovis's next of kin.

    You return to your office not really looking forward to writing said letter. Instead you procrastinate and call in Bernard and talk to him about the Cyclops team mission.

    "...ultimatly it's your call either way, nobody will think less of your for turning this mission down. Hell you'll probably see more action if you stay with us. But they need a good pilot, not some rookie, and they asked for you by name, and you've seen what a Federation Prototype is capable of in experienced hands. If there's a chance that we can stop on from getting into those hands then so much the better. But again, I'm not going to order you to stay or to go. It has to be your decision. Think on it."

    You dismiss Bernard and then try to tackle that letter.

    4'o Clock rolls around with you not getting any close to finishing it.
    You decide to take a break and travel to the Officer Mess to find Zolomon and the rest of the crew already there.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)20:12 No.13868165
    >>13868140
    It could have easy turned out differntly had they been given an additional MS. Or even if Bernie hadn't slipped up with that stupid accent.

    Make sure he knows that Sydney would be underwater this time of year.
    >> MS-06FUCKYEAH !!HCw4miKyNa0 02/11/11(Fri)20:14 No.13868191
    >>13867917
    Oh boy! Depressing Formalities then getting absolutely shitfaced! Too little sleep for David.

    Are we macking on anyone of late? Should we take this opportunity?

    >>13867958
    That's why I was suggesting it for the Elmeth, which lacks such defensive measures.

    Also, if there's any space in the day, we should totally review Solomon's TO&E like Dozle suggested, and maybe get a handle on snagging new pilots.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)20:15 No.13868201
    >>13868165

    Lots of metaing but good point.

    Advice:
    "You're going undercover. Double check everything. Make no mistakes on your prep: equipment and information. Bring lots of grenades."
    >> Strategist 02/11/11(Fri)20:17 No.13868216
    >>13868140
    Hunh. Really? Yeah I could see that, I never really did manage to watch anything from Gundam, so the most experience i have is a couple of youtube videos, and the wikis.
    >> Arty 02/11/11(Fri)20:20 No.13868238
    >>13868191
    >Are we macking on anyone of late? Should we take this opportunity?
    At a funeral? No.
    >> St. Java The Incandescent, King of Good Vibrations 02/11/11(Fri)20:23 No.13868266
    >>13868191
    >>Macking on jolyne or Ruubens right after the fucking Zeonpocalypse that has been the last:
    Raid on Jaburo,
    then Odessa,
    then Gihren being a dick,
    then that fucking Jupiter Ghost,
    then the blockade we engaged,
    then we flew down to California,
    then we flew back up and dealt with bailing out Char, Kycillia, Dozle, and Shin,
    in which process we destroyed the Midnight Pixy Death Squad,
    and lost Hovis and Calvin from our team permanently

    Can you SEE how this might not be a good time for macking?

    Also, looking that over, we've been through a shitload of bad stuff as of late. How long a period of time has that been since our last Jaburo attack? And what GOOD things have happened as of late?!
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)20:23 No.13868268
    Go up to Jolyne and nonchalantly say, "You wanna get married?"
    >> Arty 02/11/11(Fri)20:27 No.13868297
    >>13868266
    >How long a period of time has that been since our last Jaburo attack?
    Less than a month. I think it's November 29th or 30th now.
    >> Zeta Zaku 02/11/11(Fri)20:27 No.13868300
    >>13868155
    You didn't watch 0080 did you?
    >> MS-06FUCKYEAH !!HCw4miKyNa0 02/11/11(Fri)20:28 No.13868305
    >>13868266
    Hey! Think about all the relationships that have started after a main-ish character dies? But yeah, totally valid point. We also totally macked on Cima during that procedure too. We should probably focus on more important things, such as delivering eulogies, avoiding writing letters, and drinking until the hurt stops. (P.S. I don't know if this has been mentioned already but nice name for Nell there Apologised. I have a feeling she's going to shoot some people down.)
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/11/11(Fri)20:28 No.13868307
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    Your nursing a shot glass of straight gin as Zolomon is trying to tell a tale that happened less than 6 months ago.
    You think.
    This war is stretching out your perceptions of time to all kinds of distorted shape.
    Looks like Einstein was right, time is relative.

    "Anyway, so there he is, no shit, he's lost a leg because we've spent the morning looking for a paranoid delusion. He wakes up, still groggy as fuck, and basically manages to solve a columbo level murder whilst under the effects of blood-loss and painkillers."

    "...didn't he brain the bastard with his crutches as well? Threw them out of a window?" Jolyne adds.

    "I think I remember that much." Elaine comments

    "Seriously? You kidding me right?" Bernard questions.

    "Nope. This actually happened. A week later he was storming around in the Rhinoceros."

    "I remember the Rhino, but, what was the Hildolfr like? I never actually saw any footage of it."

    You ponder the question.

    "Sodomy." You conclude.

    And so it goes.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/11/11(Fri)20:29 No.13868316
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    >>13868307
    You wake up the next morning, partially hung over. You shamble about for a few hours nursing a receding headache before attempting to tackle the letter.

    Dear Mrs Clensli

    I regret to inform you that during hostilities in low earth orbit on 29/11/0079 your ex-husband: Commander Hovis Goddard was killed in action.

    Whilst Hovis never talked about his family life, I know that this tragic news will come as a heavy blow, As in the long months I have known him, I never have I met a more reliable, honest and hardworking man.
    For over six months, Hovis Goddard has been the bedrock of this unit, the constant to which we always felt we could rely on, and with his passing I feel that not only our own small band of brothers, but mankind as a whole, has been diminished in a way that it will never truly regain.

    He was my friend, he was my brother, he was Nachtmaren, and above else, he will be remembered.

    With regrets

    Commander David Lister (ZC, KCoZ, OM)

    TO BE CONTINUED...
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)20:31 No.13868327
    >>13868307
    >sodomy

    I chuckled
    >> MS-06FUCKYEAH !!HCw4miKyNa0 02/11/11(Fri)20:40 No.13868411
    >>13868307
    That filename made me tear up a little. :(
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)20:43 No.13868440
    On a last unrelated note giving the Elmeth beam chaff mean that it can not use it's close combat weaponry anymore just sayin'. since you seem to forget the elmeth has two mega particle cannon.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)20:45 No.13868451
    >>13868440
    particle beams and lasers are different
    lasers are amplified light
    particle beams are charged particles ejected out of a magnetic cannon
    >> Zeta Zaku 02/11/11(Fri)20:46 No.13868471
    >>13868451
    All beam weapons work on the Minovsky particle principle. Nobody's weaponized lasers yet.
    >> Arty 02/11/11(Fri)20:47 No.13868477
    >>13868316
    OMAKE?

    >>13868440
    >>13868451
    Beam chaff will only block it's own weapons if it happens to be deployed. If she got into a situation where it was necessary to launch it she should be using it as a chance to escape not fight.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/11/11(Fri)20:49 No.13868493
    --OMAKE--

    Zolomon was probably still drunk from last night Ookawara concluded.
    These ideas were not ones a sober man could have concocted.
    Well, MAYBE the triple beam shield design, but the rest of it was bordering on the sort of thing you'd sell as a kids toy.

    "So, let me see if I've got this right. You want to keep the Gundam hammer... but then install a backpack mounted binder containing multiple beam lances, which you want to use as, and I quote, "Javelins of Doom". "

    "You forgot the arm mounted beam sabers - like one of those pixies had!" Zolomon helpfully reminds him.

    "Okay... let's just ignore the constraints of time, money, the fact that adding a great big unsymetrical binder on the left side would throw all of the stabilisation programing out of whack, or the fact that we'd need full access to the MS engineering workshops to even get this done on time. There's also the fact that the Pixy could power those blades by fitting no less than 8 micro-fusion reactors through-out it's body. And finally let's not forget that I also have to repair all of the mobile suits, on top of further modifying the Bosses suit as well."

    "So, no?"

    Ookawara just sighed.

    "You know, whatever. Just put it on my to do pile and if we get to it, we get to it."

    "Thanks man!"

    "...what are you even going to call this variant anyway Zol?"

    "I dunno: Gyan Skullfucker?"

    "...look, how about I think something up?"
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)20:51 No.13868504
    >>13868201
    I meant it more as a joke, but yeah. He needs to know how to act as a member of an infiltration team.

    He should be better off this time though, going from a Spec Ops team to another Spec Ops team instead of being some rookie pilot being transfered to a Spec Ops team.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)20:51 No.13868505
    So where are we at?

    We just snubbed the fuck out of Kycillia.

    Dozle's lads are in rough shape, but we've thrown our lot with him.

    Char continues to get everyone around him killed.

    The illegitimate Zeon is sitting back while we get ground down.

    Garma is effectively out of the action and safe.

    Gentlemen, I think we have them right where we want them.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)20:51 No.13868511
    >>13868477
    if she tries to escape she'll lose the effect of the chaff and she'll have reduced maneuverability anyways. The Elmeth is like a WW1 artillery gun, the only thing that could currently counter it is another psycommu system with bit and feds don't have that.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/11/11(Fri)20:52 No.13868524
    >>13868505

    Define "them"
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)20:59 No.13868587
    >>13868524
    I think he mean that if we can keep solomon and destroy the Alex we can effectively start negotiating for peace
    >> Arty 02/11/11(Fri)21:00 No.13868591
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    >>13868493
    >but the rest of it was bordering on the sort of thing you'd sell as a kids toy.
    Perfect! The G-Fighter program failed so this series needs some more kids toy acting to fill its place.

    >>13868493
    >but then install a backpack mounted binder containing multiple beam lances, which you want to use as, and I quote, "Javelins of Doom". "

    Kinda like the second set of flip out arms on the Super Custom Zaku F2000?
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)21:04 No.13868614
    >>13868524
    Not sure, but whoever they are, they're fucked.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)21:04 No.13868615
    >>13868300

    Apparently, you didn't.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)21:07 No.13868648
    >>13868615
    Dude the Alex barely managed to kill both members of Cyclops it fought and it was a 1v1 each time. I mean shit, in the second battle the Alex got taken out by a ZAKU!!! And Mikhail had the Alex dead to rights if it didn't whip out the surprise wrist vulcans.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)21:12 No.13868694
    [META] We need to find missiles lot of missiles since the feds are going to use mass beam chaff for solomon capture [/META]
    >> St. Java The Incandescent, King of Good Vibrations 02/11/11(Fri)21:18 No.13868759
    >>13868493
    yes

    Yes

    YES

    YEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!
    >> Arty 02/11/11(Fri)21:24 No.13868816
    >>13868694
    Since we know about beam chaff already and have been using it heavily it's a good bet that Admiral Dozle is already prepared for Federation use of beam chaff. This is a good thing, but we can do more.
    The captured railgun should take less power to use than a beam rifle so Gyans should be able to make use of them as a primary ranged weapon. This is why the Gelgoog was chosen over the Gyan in the series: it lacks long ranged weapons, and Doms can only do so much to support them.
    Wait, waitwaitwaitwait...
    The Gyan cannon Jolyne tested out before we went to Von Braun. Replace it's standard shoulder guns with railguns.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)21:28 No.13868857
    >>13868816
    That's actually not a bad idea, we can also keep the Elmeth straped on or near the Outer Heaven until it gets under heavy fire, that way we won't need the beam chaff and the OH get more firepower.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)21:34 No.13868904
    >>13868857
    >loot the Elmeth bit pod and install it on the OH
    >OH is now the best battleship ever
    >> Researcher Sam 02/11/11(Fri)21:39 No.13868953
    >>13868816
    >>13868493
    Looks like that triple beam shield design is getting used.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)21:41 No.13868972
    >>13868158
    More like
    > You dismiss Hamburger.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)21:41 No.13868973
    >>13868493
    Gyan Skullfucker does have a certain ring to it....
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)21:54 No.13869119
    >>13868504
    Just make sure he knows what the current weather in Australia is like.

    PROTIP: partially cloudy, with a chance of falling colonies.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)21:55 No.13869140
    Now assuming Hamburger returns victorious, here's a question:

    What do we do about his new girlfriend?
    >> Holdout !bSYiFCKrn6 02/11/11(Fri)22:06 No.13869257
    If the AB chaff pods on the Elmeth Prototype are designed to be detached like fuel drop pods, I think it could recover some of the lost manueverability while still having the use of AB chaff if it needs it.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)22:13 No.13869323
    >>13869140
    POW. Its unlikely she'll join Zeon as there must be a reason she signed on with the Feddies.
    >> Arty 02/11/11(Fri)22:14 No.13869344
    >>13868953
    I dont think so Sam, I think he just meant it was something crazy that a sober person might have been able to come up with.

    >>13868857
    >>13868904
    And if any of the bits are lost spares can be swapped out from the OH quickly. How many extras will we be able to carry?

    Something else to look into at some point is how powerful the various captured Fed beam weapons are.
    Captured weapons:

    Gundam Beam Rifle (mk.1?)
    Guncannon Beam Rifle (Long Barrel type)
    Ground Gundam Beam Rifle
    GM Command Beam Rifle
    Spray Beam
    Backpack beam cannon (Guncannon Mk II)
    What happened to that Guncannon anyways?
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)22:18 No.13869375
    >>13869323
    No, I mean how much shit do we give Bernie for actually having love bloom on the battlefield?

    I mean, it would turn him into a walking cliche!

    Then again, Christina might end up as hamburger this time around, which would ensure that 0080 remains the most depressing Gundam ever even in an alternate universe.
    >> Holdout !bSYiFCKrn6 02/11/11(Fri)22:21 No.13869400
    >>13869375
    We do things like paint up his Zaku with "Just Married" signs and flowers. Joke about him 'consorting with the enemy'.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)22:30 No.13869495
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    >>13868307
    Goodbye, Hovis.
    >> Anonymous 02/11/11(Fri)22:31 No.13869505
    >>13868953
    We draft more newtype to uses more bit and soon we'll outgun the feddies
    >> Arty 02/11/11(Fri)22:33 No.13869526
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    You know, there are already attachment points that would be perfect for addition beam lances, but they're being used by the esternal tanks.
    We could relocate the tanks to the back of the skirt armor but that could seriously screw aound with suit balance. Who am I kidding, the added arms will already screw plenty with the balance. It should be perfect!



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