>>9875163
Here's what I've done.

Prior to the campaign's start, I've asked my players to provide with a list of 5 pokemon they'd like to capture. I make sure that over the course of the campaign, at least 2 pokemon from each player's list appears at some point over the course of the campaign.

When the trainers are in populated cities, if they choose to go to a training post, and they are offering a powerful capture they've just made because they don't want it, offer some pokemon from their list at low levels.

>>9875295
>PTA thread
>Second post is Dr. Mr. Stark
>I have to go to work in 10 minutes

FFFFFFFFFFFFF

Perhaps someone can explain this to me. I've purposefully not paid attention to these threads, since /tg/ rarely actually gets anything done, but nonetheless progress seems to be established.

However, when I did stick my head in, I was told that pokemon are unimportant little side details, and the trainer's class was more important to the gameplay than the pokemon.

You can understand why I found this disturbing. What do you say to my admittedly several month old statement?

How to make up wild encounters on the fly:

Based on the place your players have decided to randomly start wandering, pick a species that would make sense to appear there.
Make 5-6 of the lowest stage in its evolutionary line appear and make 1-2 of its middle or final form appear as well.
Give them appropriate levels.
Pop up the pokedex and look at their base stats for HP. Multiply that by 10.
Deal straight damage based on your rolls with attacks, subtract their levels from whatever damage you take with them.
It won't reflect their pokemon's stats perfectly but sometimes you need to be able to spontaneously have encounter when your players say "Fuck plot, it's time for a new teammate"

>>9875409
I'd say "Trainer levels are more important than pokemon" is more than a little obscuring of the reality of the system. Pokemon are important (They are your weapons and HP bars and human shields and best friends and all that) but the Trainer classes are equally important because they can make your pokemon better and more effective. Also, the classes tied to your pokemon are HEAPS more effective than classes who operate independently from pokemon. So the dynamic IS different, but pokemon are by no means a "Side detail."

Bored skitty here, im bored and lonely, someone add my msn for a chat / cam! 55
if youre a wailord, add me: wailover@pokemail.pkm !! 63

>>9875502
Fair enough. As I was typing that out, I realized it sounded like I got trolled, but I *did* notice that 90% of the time discussion was not about pokemon, but about psychics and brawlers and gamblers and whatnot.

>>9875511
I lol'd

>>9875409
I'm not sure where you've gotten the impression that pokemon are little side details. They aren't. Rather, the trainer's class and abilities are equally important to the pokemon you use. They work together to create your character. Pokemon and Class together as one player, rather then a player and their 6 player characters they control.

>>9875332
Sorry, man.
I'm at work and I decided to hop in and on the front page was a new threads with lots of questions I've never seen before..

So Mr Stark, how close is it to being "finished"? and by "finished", I mean "playable"

>>9875534
Psychics and Martial artists are extremely popular choices because they sound cool, but they are both the classes who don't effect their pokemon much, and are somewhat underpowered because of it.

Think of pokemon as like having caster levels. Martial artists and Psychics are like Fighters. They're good at the beginning thanks to extra damage dealing and durability, but as the game goes on their effectiveness drops off as the Ace Trainer starts out-damaging him, the Breeder's poke-stats and movesets go out of control, and the researcher's skills make battles tactically simpler.

Coordinators and Rangers are a little underpowered too, but they back it up with sheer utility (Moneyfarming and Poke-swiss army knife respectively, and both are MADE for CHA-rape.)

>And then, what if you throw a powerful 'mon at your players and he rolls a natural 1 on his d100 roll and catches it? How do you deal with the power imbalance you've just created?

This is an easy one:
Make the pokemon hate the player.
As GM, you have control over the behavior of unloyal pokemon, while the player maintains control over their pokemon who are loyal.
Pokemon who are really powerful need to be tamed by players showing their own power and being kind to the pokemon.

An example of this is a player I once GMed in my first Pre-Alpha campaign. He rolled a 00 on a level 45 Arcanine when the whole party's strong pokemon was 25.
In the process of catching it, they also killed a few of its cubs and separated it from the rest of its cubs forever.
When he first sent it out and gave it a command, it about faced and tried to rip his neck out.

It took a while, but he eventually broke it and it became loyal.

Way and rate to mete our pokemon. Aside from encounters in the wilderness there might be actual professional breeders in settled areas. While getting tourney cred for a capture is the MOST IMPORTANT thing on an OCD trainer's mind there's the preservation of an expensive breed's bloodline as well.

I'm thinking geographical area vs season vs how depleted a region is. Not going for an exact simulation but having the Trainer's League issue poaching demerits and there be local release programs might make things seem plausible.

Random tables seem a little silly unless they're tied to WHERE the players are going to be. Also make it a decision between each method. With the random table thy might win BIg but by saving up whatever sort of xp or Plot Points this game has their prize catch is an assured wait away.

The 'Dream Team' method of asking players ahead of time what selection they want might fold into building the party. Especially if there's some sort of mechanism to foster TRADING between them. Might end up being the tavern cliche for groups to meet but at least it's an in-setting method.

>>9875614
>Playable?
People seem to be running alpha campaigns now.
If you want more extensive rules and whatnot, I'm looking to get Beta out in July. I'm positive Axiom is doing well on the Player's Guide and I'm nearly done (Within the week I'll be ready to start indexing it in pdf form) with the Bestiary. The GM book is all drafted out and will be made over the course of June.
We're getting shit done.

>>9875653
It's important to note that this means of generating wilds is needed because you never know when the trainers will go to terrain type X, but when it comes to plot battles, Gym Battles, important trainer events etc. you should plan out those stats for the encounters as you would any other tabletop game.

I see a lot of 'how can we help', though not in this particular thread. Anyway, I have a boring job for someone who wants to contribute:
I'd like the 5 pictures I'm going to be posting to have the Rotoms cropped out, shrunken and then placed inside one border similar to the Gastrodon image I'll post after the 5 rotom forms. This will be for the Bestiary. I'd like the rotom forms image to be the same resolution as the rest of the images. If you can get it done, post a trip and I'll add you to the credits. If you finish it and the thread is dead please link me to it on my steam page.

#2

#3

#4

Combine them much like this please.

Or this.

like this?

>>9876650
Fucking yes.
Who do I have to thank?

just write the check out to TehT

>>9875163
That first picture is sooo cute....but so sad too.

>>9876729
Thank you.
I need to save space on Rotom "Form X" because of the extra rules were Rotom will actually be able to possess any electronic device and get a Move based on the GM's decision.
Rotomcycle/Rotomcar/Rotomcannon/Rotomputer is go.

>>9876775
>Rotomputer.
ROTOMPUTER FUCK YES.

Dr. Mr. Stark, I've been playing this with my friends for a few sessions and we've been having a lot of fun with it, but there's one thing that confuses me. I think I read the rules governing it somewhere, but I can't seem to find them again.

What determines the order in which trainers get to issue commands? Do the Poke's go about those commands as soon as they're issued, or will there be a delay between it being issued and acted out if the trainer is fast and the Poke is slow? So far we've been just basing it on the Poke's speed, but I thought I read about the trainer's DEX being figured in somewhere.

Also, how do you determine how many points / level a Poke gets to allocate? So far I've been using a chart based on the average of their base stats (5-6 = 1/lvl, 7 = 1.25/lvl, 8 = 1.5/lvl and so on), and it works wonderfully, but I'm just wondering how we're intended to.

glad to be of service
i was bored out of my skull anyway :P

I have two main questions.

One, in the new Tracks of Light Pokemon Ranger game, Pokemon Rangers can use 'Ranger Signs' to summon Pokemon.
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Ranger_Sign

Will this be in the game?

Also, how do you handle one-on-one fights, gym matches, or other situations where only one trainer is really involved at one time without basically telling everyone else to wait.

>>9876863
It will be incorporated into DotDotDot's Acolyte.
During the Mystic update Ranger, Martial Artist, Capture Specialist and Researcher will be getting new Advanced Features.
I am going to personally work with DotDotDot to revise the Acolyte and incorporate it into canon as the new Ranger Advanced Class. The new Capture Specialist Advanced Class will be the Snagger.

>>9876849
Round order:
Trainer Actions
followed by
Pokemon Actions

During the start of each round, Trainers have their turns first. Refer to a trainer's DEX stat to see which trainers go first.

During their turn, a trainer can make a Trainer Action, Issue a Command and Shift.
Trainer Actions are;
Using a feature.
Using the Pokedex.
Using an item.
Returning/Sending Out a Pokemon.
Making a Trainer Attack.

Shifting is moving. Trainer can move 5 meters or 5 spaces per round, adding (or subtracting) DEX modifer.

Issuing a command is telling your pokemon what to do during that round. If you use a Poke Ball, this counts as your "Issue a Command" for that round. Your pokemon may still Shift but they may not use a Move.

If you send out a pokemon, that pokemon may not use a Move or Shift that round.

Speed determines the order that pokemon move during the round after the trainer turns are done.

During a pokemon's turn (the pokemon you issued a command to), They may use a Move and Shift.

Moves are what each pokemon have to use as attacks/buffs etc. during their turn.

Shifting is how much that pokemon can move during the round referring to the pokemon's Speed Capabilities.

>>9876849
Issuing commands happen simultaneously, though the pokemon can only act on them in the order their Speed determines.

Every time a pokmon levels up, you allocate 1 stat point to one of its 6 stats.

Are there any question regarding how to level up pokemon or does everyone have the Base Relation thing figured out? I know that this is the most common thing that players get confused about.

>>9877045
So it is always using a Move and then Shifting, in that order, or can you Shift and then Move?

>>9877113
You may Shift then use a Move.

>>9877045
Thanks, that really clears things up.
>>9877097
But if all Poke's gain a flat 1 per level, doesn't that render evolution almost pointless since you're only gaining a few points from it?

>>9877241
It changed the pokemon's Size, Capabilities, and Move sets.
Now, if you want to have a Squirtle forever, you're not completely outclassed by your foe's Blastoise, though it has an edge. All pokemon gain EXP at the same rate anyway.
Again, the core rules can always be modified for your gaming group.
That people want to play Pokemon: Tabletop Adventures at all is thrilling to myself and the rest of my team who has contributed.

>>9877305
This makes sense, after all, Ash' pokes stay unevolved for long periods of time and constantly outclass their evolutions.

>>9877305
>>9877328
But then, a Magikarp could potentially outclass a Gyarados.

>>9877241
If a pokemon, upon evolving, has it's Sp. Att., Sp. Def., and Defense rise by 1, it HP and Speed rise by 2, and it's Attack value go up by 3, that is still a net total of +10 points to different stats.

When you consider that a pokemon only gets +1 to a single stat at each level, I don't how you can consider an increase of +10 to a pokemon's stats insignificant.

will the beta release contain more description, and a sort of Idiots guide to the rules, i was having a hard time trying to understand alot of them, mostly because im rather new to tabletop adventure games, but i know i would really appreciate some really simple explanation of parts when you release the beta

>>9877502
Well, maybe but the differences between Magikarp's Base Stats and Gyarados' Base Stats are drastically different, not only a few numbers. And even if a single Magikarp outclass some Gyarados, is that really such a big deal in a tabletop game?

>>9877530
It will be provided in the Beta. This system is... complicated in its simplicity. I will provide rules for everything that needs it, and will include more detailed rules if they are requested in Beta Updates.

>>9877535
also isnt splash the only move a magicarp can learn, and with such a low powered attack it may outclass it in some stats, but it would never do the damage or have the attack variation to deal with different kinds of enemies

>>9877636
Magikarp learns Splash, Tackle, Flail, and Bounce.

All but Splash are damaging moves.

>>9877650
Let's not forget a Pusher who can turn that Magikarp into an Earthquaker.

>>9877650
hmm, i didnt know this, it could be due to the fact i havent trained a magicarp up since G1, when the beta comes out im catching and keeping a magicarp as a magicarp

>>9877045
Reflecting on this, wouldn't a LOW dex be advantageous, since you get to declare your Poke's move after having heard what everyone else is going to do, and plan in accordance?

>>9877961
I would assume that you would have the option to delay- depending on what you wish to accomplish.

>>9877961
Giving commands is supposed to happen simultaneously for both trainers, but I'm not sure how that would even work on the tabletop. Write down commands and just hope your opponent picked something you counter?

Thread kinda died there. HEY STARK, would you be so kind as to give further clarification on issuing commands?

Hey, guy, minor unrelated gripe: I just downloaded this here thing, and had a look at the Pokédex. Says Pidgeot has "Sky 7" under Capabilities. It also says this corresponds to an average speed of about 50mph. Thing is, it is consistently stated to be able to move at Mach 2, which is somewhere in the neighbourhood of 1500 mph, or in this nomenclature, Sky 10. Explanation?

Also, dude, the Capabilities explanation doc. 1000 mph != 8000 km/h. Something went wrong there.

>>9878587
I'd assume he just ignored that because it's potentially game-breaking. I almost wrote "silly," then I realized it's Pokemon we're dealing with here.

>>9878587
Sky 7, because to actually fly at mach two, planes are made of special metals so they don't melt.

In terms of issuing commands I need to clarify something:
The "issuing commands" Flavor wise all happen at the start of a round, but when it gets to your pokemon's turn in game, when they actually do anything is when you choose what they do. What this means is that you are 'retroactively' commanding pokemon when it is their turn. The reason 'commanding' happens at the beginning is because there are going to be instances where a trainer is unable to issue their command while doing something else so no command is 'issued' which would mean the pokemon does nothing.

>>9878032
Yes. Fast pokemon can be moved to the back of the pokemon's turn queue and act later during the round, but not whenever they'd like. If you are the fastest and choose to not go first, you are moved to the end of the queue.

Man I need a group to test things out, no one in my area even likes pokemon and rpgs they either like one but not the other & vise versa.

>>9878905
>>9878587
A lot of pokemon have ridiculous pokedex fluff that doesn't even make sense in the context of the pokemon games, most likely the result of picking big sounding numbers without researching them (like magcargo being hotter than the surface of the sun). I think toning it down is fine.

>>9879055
ha, I was wondering who posted that, since it told me there was a duplicate file. I'm glad if it was going to happen it was Stark.

>>9879055
Figured it'd be something of the sort.

>>9879255
Yeah. I've got a major hard-on for supersonic bird riding, s'all. Preferably sans incineration, of course.

Also, more weird measurements. Materializer:
"2.5 grams, or 5 pounds, of rock formed the Pokemon loses 2 HP. The Rock is formed adjacent to the Pokemon and a Pokemon can only add up to 25 grams, or 50 pounds, of rock over 1 round in place of a Move during their turn in an encounter."

That's probably supposed to be KILOgrans, considering that 1kg~2lbs, wheras 1g~0.002lbs.

I had a question too, though I imagine it's covered in the pokedex (i'm not on my home computer, so I don't have access). Do pokemon that level up from happiness or trading still level up that way in tabletop? Happiness I can understand, but having a pokemon level up because you handed it to someone else in your party briefly seems like it wouldn't work.

I only ask because two of my favorite mans are gengar and alakazam, and I'm planning on getting a geodude in my next game, all of which evolve from trading.

Any IRC games looking for another player?

>>9879360
Pokemon in P:TA evolve almost strictly through DM fiat. The only exceptions are pokemon that evolve with items such as the Eevee evolutions, which can happen through stones OR DM fiat.

>>9879360
>>9879497
Also, If the pokemon evolves by holding something while trading, then it works by holding something and leveling up while happy or when its AWESOME.

Or just when its awesome. Evolution is really free form like that.

>>9877004
First i've heard of this. GREAT SUCCESS.

Now I'll have to look up pokemon signs. To Serebii!

>>9879775
I'm back. Okay. I might have some ideas for feats to change, tweak, or replace.

Also, wow, how did I get so far with the Acolyte class without people telling me that Tracks of Light already introduced Ranger helpers launching attacks rather than simply using assists, and that aligning yourself with legendaries (Through Pokemon signs) was a thing you could do? I feel a little psychic.

Right. Major nooblet question; How do you determine a trainer's starting stats? Can't seem to find that info anywhere.

>>9880267
If the .rar in the OP's post is what I think it is, download it and look under the "Pokemon GM ONLY" folder.

It should be in the Excel spreadsheet called "Base Stats"

>>9880322
Those are Pokémon stats. I'm talking about the Trainers and the STR, CON, WIS and whatnot.

>>9880322
Oh. nvm. You said TRAINER'S starting stats. I'm dum.

All the games I'm in have been 64 point buy, minimum of 6 and I'm not sure what the max was because I never hit it.

It hasn't said that anywhere in the .rar

theoretically I suppose you could just roll out your stats if you really love randomness. It is a d20 system after all. I have no idea how that would work out though.

where the fuck is that sagefag who put >>>/v/ everywhere?

>>9880441
Busy being a faggot and targeting threads that aren't /tg/-related. This is a tabletop game.

>>9880415

Ah. Sounds about right. Since I'm already at it, I might as well ask another one:
Do pokémon still only get four moves, or..?

>>9880415
12 point max per stat

>>9880654
I'm assuming that means when initially stating trainers.

>>9880654
Heystark, I'm also working on my own cutom tabletop. Any advise? Other then the obvious "Keep at it and playtest it."

>>9881319
Get at least 3 friends who are equally interested in its progress to help playtest and critique. Don't rush anything. Keep ALL files, obsolete, dropped or irrelevant, that were at any time part of the project. Start easy, add complications later. Stray from the source material, especially if it s a video game.

Nothing else comes to mind at the moment.

What is it that you are working on, If I may ask, Halfwing?

>>9881440
That was me.

>>9881319
You making something too Halfwing?

Well...


I may have been posting under the name Spartan recently.

>>9881664
What does that even mean?

>>9881469
Stark, I thought I read somewhere that you're working on another game. How are you gonna get Pokemon Tabletop done if you're working on something else?

>>9881664
Wait...

>Halfwing always complaining about DSi
>Spartan complains about DSi
>Halfwing has taken an intrest in helping build homebrew settings
>Spartan is building one
>HALFWING AND SPARTAN ARE THE SAME FUCKING PERSON!

How the fuck did I not notice this?

>>9881686
I'm the guy making the Halo tabletop.

I'm really not surprised no one knows about it, there has only been 1 thread.

Also Stark, did you ever find the page borders you were looking for? If not I could probably through one together in photoshop. Won't be OMFG AWESOME, but would be better then blank pages.

>>9881761
Dude... I only made 1 thread. I would be pretty fucking surprised if you did.

I really didn't think it was important, so I decided not to mention it.

>>9881761
Halfwing, you're a samefag. All the fucking time.
You bitch about not being a samefag and say that you have different poster IDs behind each post, but you have a DSi and a computer.
What a fag.

>>9875163
>Christian cross
>Creature that evolves

No cognitive dissonance here? Really?

>>9883060
Maybe christianity has different rules in pokemon world?

>>9883060
PRO TIP: most Christians aren't science-denying creationist cockburgers.

>>9881898
>>9881843
>>9881761
>>9881686
>>9881664
>>9881605
samefaggotry

How does capturing work?

>>9883136
But, as a Catholicfag, my other Christian bros tend to go apeshit when I tell them creationism is bullshit. They suggest something has a low probability of happening, therefore it doesn't happen. Anyone who has ever done statistics can tell you "as time approaches infinity, the probability of an event happening becomes 1."

Bricks are shat, shit hits the fan, and some of the more science minded people are converted.

>>9881706
I'm not working on it now. It's something I'm going to make after Beta is out until it's done, then I'll go back to updating Pokemon Tabletop Adventure's Beta. It's not a big thing. Just a fun sit down and play game.

>>9883316
Each pokemon has a capture rate.

You roll a d100 and try to get under that number.

Certain balls and abilitys alter the result.

>>9883136
Bullshit. Most Christians are Catholics. And the Pope has stated that Evolution is impossible, All signs of Jesus-like figures in myths predating Christianity were put there by the devil, and that the reason the dinosaurs went extinct was the great flood.

>>9883350
Modifiers for level of health as well as status correct?

>>9883381
0.5/10

>>9883381
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19956961/

>>9883338
I'm seem to recall that the last pope (John Paul, wasn't it? I'm too lazy to double check) basically say, in response to the whole creationism debate, that "you shouldn't take the bible quite that literally."

>>9883431
>between creationism and evolution was an >“absurdity,” saying that evolution can coexist with >faith.

>The pontiff, speaking as he was concluding his >holiday in northern Italy, also said that while there is >much scientific proof to support evolution, the theory >could not exclude a role by God.

..........boy, you sure trolled us.

>>9883316
Each pokemon has a Capture Rate. It's a low number, usually.
When you throw any poke ball, you roll 1d100. If you roll equal to or lower then the number the pokemon is captured.
Poke balls might have way to raise the target's capture rate, and damaging/afflicting the target also raises its capture rate.

>>9883381
>and that the reason the dinosaurs went extinct was the great flood.
That's not true. The official stance is that they've died out since then.

>>9883531
Oh god, that's even MORE ridiculous

>>9883346
So, what is this project.

Stop arguing about religion.
Take it to another board.
I'd like this thread to remain open for any questions anyone has about Pokemon: Tabletop Adventures.

>>9883605
A surprise.
I'll only repeat what I've said before:
It'll make you dig out an old favorite from your closets and put together a game.

>>9883680
YOUR MAKING A LEGO RPG!?!

I LOVE YOU!

Has anyone actually played Pokemon Tabletop Adventures?

>>9883892
I'm going run it in a couple of minutes.

>>9883680
STARK!
PLEASE ADOPT MY BABIES!

>>9883892
My first group meets tomorrow for the 5th? time.
Their rival party meets on Thursday for the 1.5st time.

>>9883892
yeah, it's a bit wonky to find all the rules, but once down it works.

Also to helpful /co/mrade if you're here, i'm sorry i haven't been showing up to our game, i get called into work.

>>9884120
you in happy's game?

>>9884165
I am Happy.

Stark, one question, how often do you hand out TMs and do you hand out multiples or just one and let the group argue over it?

>>9884170
good deal

>>9883892
Yeah, and we've been having a lot of fun.

>>9884196
Sometimes, they find a TM case out in the woods. Gym Leaders award 2-4 TMs. They can also buy them - though the high prices, even after bartering, deter that method of acquiring TMs.

>>9883892
No, I'm waiting for beta before I test this with my group.

>>9884289
I don't know if anybody has sent you overviews of what has been going on in my game, but I'd love to hear what you think of it when you do.

>>9884289
ok cool, i've been having Gym leaders have have a line up and a victory condition. If you beat one, you get a badge and a TM, if you beat both you get the badge and two TMs.

example would be the ground gym leader is all about being stable and not being moved by your opponent. if you manage to do that and win you would get the badge and both TMs, in this case dig and sandstorm.

>>9884170
Sure you aren't the fake?

>>9884373
Do you want me to name off the towns you've visited?

Stark, you said water is your favorite type IIRC, what is your favorite Pokemon?

>>9884482
Wailord, right?

>>9884482

>>9884514
excellent

>>9884482
Wailord, as he has said multiple times.

>>9876775
Rotomdex?

I've always been a Ghost man myself, especially Froslass. There's just something about taming unearthly creatures that'll kill you as soon as you get boring for the lulz, if you pardon the expression. I appreciate that slight frisson of danger that comes with Ghosts, a twinge of fear that not even the Godmons can reproduce.

HEYHEYHEY

What about Gengar? Is he going to be able to hide in people's shadows, like in the manga and pokedex? Or is he gonna just be a tougher haunter like in the anime and actual gameplay?

>>9884120
Hi Happy. I'm looking forward to tomorrow.

And if Stark is still in here, you should send me an E-mail if you haven't already. If we're going to talk about Acolyte we should go for it.

>>9884640
I believe the gengar line has the capability phase or the ability to pass through solid objects.

>>9884678
Cya, tomorrow. I'm going to head out and finish the planning for your group and rivals.

>>9884289

Who's the author of these doodles? I've seen you post a few of them before, and now I want a source.

>>9884577
Sure, but when you return Rotom, your Pokedex would disappear with it. Still could be fun.

>>9884640
He has Invisibility and Phasing. You can essentially fluff it that he's hiding in people's shadows.

My question regarding LEGO still stands.

>>9884836
LEGO?

Also Stark, what is the acceptable line for pokemon that will be loyal?
im thinking of making the champion (an empath) have a suicune as a Pokemon, would that work if or would it still likely rebel or be morally reprehensible as a trainer?

>>9884836
It's a surprise, he doesn't answer speculation.

>>9884891
Yeah, what about this? My level 2 trainer has a level 28 Primeape (don't ask, lol) that probably shouldn't obey him yet. At what level should it?

>>9884891
Generally, for the legendary pokemon I've made them allied with several important NPCs.
They can be summoned to fight along side each other, but they aren't 'owned'. They are friends.
For a champion, the pokemon league should make an exception if a wild is willing to listen to their commands in battle.

As far as anyone's guesses as to what I'm putting together, I'll let you wait in your guessing games and neither confirm nor deny any guesses.

>>9884994
>Generally, for the legendary pokemon I've made them allied with several important NPCs.
ARCEUS IS BUDDIES WITH GIOVANNI OH GOD

>>9884929
I think the circumstances of the capture are relevant. If it was a skillful capture the wild should be cautious, but obedient. If it was an abusive, cruel capture the wild would be hateful, but broken. If the capture was lucky, and the wild was cruelly attacked, (maybe even a friend or two of its was killed) it would be disobedient. Thinking back on all of the pokemon I've made disobedient, it has mostly stemmed from a lucky capture roll after my players were being jackasses about basically poaching the mons. They eventually gained control of the pokemon, though.

So what is balance like?

I'm thinking of running an Alpha game to help you out here D.M.S. but i'm worried that due to one or two of my friends knowing more about pokémon they will have the advantage.

So my question is more of, if one player whats to starts off with a Swinub (which i'm lead to believe is a great pokémon) yet the other wants a Caterpie, won't one be greatly overpowering the other? The same question can be asked about generations.

2nd Question. How are you ordering the bestiary? Straight alphabetical or generation then alphabetical (same as pokédex number i suppose)? Mainly asked as i will probably run Gen1/2 only.

>>9884994
>For a champion, the pokemon league should make an exception if a wild is willing to listen to their commands in battle.

RRRREALLY?

>>9885158
the swinub player has the advantage here, mostly you want to allow them several pokemon with the same or similar base stat totals. Typing and stats don't matter as much as a good brain in the tabletop game.

>>9885158
The major difference is that Caterpie evolves MUCH faster than Swinub. So he'll be a butterfree in no time and be way better early-game. Butterfree isn't really that bad, either.

>>9885311
Especially with 7 spots for moves.
I get to keep all the effect moves and some attacks on my Butterfree.

Hey, I noticed that in the More Alpha Splatbooks folder, there's a doc called Breeding: Eggs Rule that I can't open in windows because of the colon, and I'm unable to rename it while it's in the compressed folder.

Could someone on a Mac fix that?

>>9885524
Can't you just extract it?

>>9885420
yeah the many moveslots makes some things awesome, im testing it now, but it's looking like dragonite will be the god-tier pseudolegendary, with t-tar second.

>>9885562

Nope, Windows bitches at me for it.

>>9885587
We conceded to giving my friend a Larvitar as his starter. What can we do to balance him out?

>>9885628
restrict his TM allowance? More fighting types? also it'll take an ass-long time to actually get to lvl 55, you've got a while, let him have his poke by the time you get to 50s-60s, everyone should have a reasonable counter or alternative.

>>9885587
My favorite part is that a lot of shitty pokemon got elevated a bit by the addition of trainers having more to do with their upbringing. Even with Dark/Ghost being banned from Elemental Sync, you can still give Shedinja a fantastic boost to his typing.

Now if only there was some way to get rid of that nasty weakness to Damage-over-time moves.

>>9885524
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=D5P64J4W

>>9885524
I was able to extract it with 7zip on Windows. Give that a try?

>>9885720
...or we just wait for Stark to be awesome as usual.

>>9885720

Thank you very much!

I'm trying to get me an Usraring, at level 40 you get your second ability correct? Quick feet and Guts?


Rape-Bear, I choose you!

This looks amazing. I came

At what level does a trainer get an Advanced Class?

>>9885808
At 40, you may gain a second ability.
Bestiary 2.0, which will include the 5th gen, will add new abilities and a third option for each existing pokemon.
That's the plan anyway.

At what level does a trainer get an Advanced Class?
Also, in a battle of, say, 3 vs. 3, is the experience for each Poke defeated divided by 3?

>>9885887
>>9885925
Sorry for the double-post.

>>9885896
I had just house ruled, that as an alternative you could pick the swarm/torrent/overgrow type boosting ability for one of your types. you may just want to do that...

>>9885925
when he meets the requirements for it, then you take it instead of a feat for that level.

>>9885808
Yeah, seriously. I was fucking around with a Stat Ace build and tried out a Speed Ace using a Quick Feet/Guts Ursaring holding a Flame orb and with functionally unlimited speed and Attack stats.

Was so rape I kinda felt bad.

>>9885925
You gain an Advanced class when you meet the requirements for it and you would gain a feature.

If a pokemon that is felled is worth 180 exp, I award it to each player's active pokemon.

>>9885989
yeah im trying to test some of these potentially crazy pokes out, most are dependent on certain ability or moves making them somewhat restrainable.

Man, these P:TA threads are like yo-yos. They sit down there for a bit, suddenly come back up, then just as quickly sit down again.

>>9886183
Translation: Never aim stat effects at Stat Aces bearing Ursarings.

And don't let them have Flame or Toxic orbs either.

>>9886239
I think it's because people go off to do something, then come back.

Also Ludicolo, is a rain Rape-monster, and sunflora goes from scoff-tier to powerhouse in sun.

>>9886315
Haven't tested it yet, but next up is to see if bronzong is unkillable, but the lack of a healing move should be interesting to see whether that's the case.

>>9886349
One more level and my Bronzong in Stark's campaign will be a perfect test subject for this. Ferdinand is level 39, and will be gaining his second Ability soon.

Watch out, here comes Trollzong.

>>9886430
tell me how this goes, i'm really interested to hear whether this is the case or not.

Also how much do ethic come up in your games, In my test game, i've had trainers recall pokemon that were badly beat to concede defeat, do you think that trainers should regularly let their pokemon fight until feinting or not?

>>9886349
>Roll Breeder/Pusher
>Teach Bronzong Rest
>FFFFF

>>9886502
The Gym Leaders I run always return their pokemon if they don't stand a chance at still winning and their pokemon are hurt.

>>9886502
Ahh, Ethics and pokemon.
I think we're operating under the assumption that pokemon want to get stronger, humans want to survive, humans can survive by utilizing pokemon, and Pokemon get their strength from being trained by humans. It's a mutually beneficial relationship (if, admittedly, a little skewed towards the humans.).

As for the ethics of letting a mon faint, I don't know. The practicalities of the situation stand that since pokemon are able to die, you should take care of their well-being. It hasn't really come up though.

What HAS come up is that when fighting against teams, I have a tendency to go straight for the trainer to cut off the effectiveness of his pokemon. In doing so, I've killed a couple trainers with rolls that were a little higher than I meant. Oops.

I'm thinking about having my players try to bust a "puppy mill" style IV breeding ring, think it'll go well?

>>9886754
Hopefully the Pokemon being bred there aren't being bred with some of the higher level techniques that PCs can potentially have.

>>9886430
But how is the Tanktrolleon coming?

>>9886754
Sounds like a solid quest. Breeders are great when they're all love and sunshine, but get even a little dark with it and they are easily the skeeziest of the classes.

>>9886790
It is coming well. It will still require a lot of teamwork with the other mons to work, but he can take care of himself pretty well.

However,I just couldn't salvage Delibird. If someone else can that is great, but I decided to go with Spinda instead. Teeter dance is pretty good in this.

So, what was the irc channel again? I can't remember. I was supposed to play, but hit a snag with finals.

>>9886850
tanktrolleon? is that an umbreon?

>>9886850
Awww but I love delibird. Understandable though. Teeter dance confuses all pokemon on the field?

>>9886863
No, its a potential build for Kecleon to take advantage of his Blender Capability (It makes all ranged attacks miss him when in Rough Terrain, and Melee attacks are at +2 to hit him) plus his relatively high DEF stat to create a workable tank/annoyer.

I wanted to try building a team of six gimmick pokemon in PTA to see if it works. It does up to a point. Nothing spectacular but a little better than it does in the games, and pretty fun.

>>9886897
All pokemon within 7 spaces/meters.

Essentially, yes, a large portion of the field is confused. And it can't miss. Not so good for free for alls where I'm likely to hit an ally, but if I'm surrounded by team rocket or something, it's pretty cool.

>>9886938
awesome, indeed, i may have to steal that.

Speaking of the gimmick build, question for Stark if you're still here:

For the Ace skill "Give it some push" I know you don't apply stats, but Do you apply STAB?

>>9887140
No. Sorry.

When is the game gonna be out?

>>9875851
see
>>9887341

Apparently July

>Go to /v/ to discuss more pokemon.
>They post scat pokemon pics and argue about nothing while getting spammed by spam bots targeting only their threads.

>>9887428
You're at /tg/.
You don't even need those other boards.

Will there be a guide to help novice GM's onto their feet with PTA? I'm new to the whole thing really, and It might help those of us unfamiliar to GMing.

Also, what is the ruling on how pokemon are used outside of combat? Just roleplaying? I say this in refrence to how a pokemon can only use the move CUT 30 times in battle, but in theory infinite times outside of battle.

>>9887607
Cut is At-Will, bro.
You can use Cut whenever you want.

>>9887607
See
>>9877578

>>9887655

Awesome. Same for stuff like Surf and strength, I'm presuming?

>>9887678
Also thanks.

>>9887607
Some moves give your pokemon Capabilities. For example, Strength raises your Power capability, which allows your pokemon to lift and push more. Dig makes a pokemon able to burrow. Flash turns them into a flashlight, etc.

Most of these capabilities can be used at-will unless otherwise noted. As for using pokemon moves outside of battle (I'm not sure if Cut actually gives you anything, after all) I'd say just go with what makes sense. If a pokemon knows Cut, he can cut down small trees or fences. If a pokemon has claws larger than his abdomen, he can do the same thing without having to waste a move slot. If a bird is big enough to ride and is strong enough to carry you, then you can ride him, but if he's still Pidgey sized you can forget it no matter how many times you teach it FLY.

>>9887722
Oh boy, someone should tell him.
>If your pokemon can swim and support your weight, it can get you across water as a water mount- or you can just go swimming.
>If it takes more then one pokemon to move a boulder in your way, or if you can just obliterate the boulder with attacks - do so.

>>9887763

>>9887742

Ah, kay.

Also, not to be too much of a bother, but I have absolutely no idea how to get the Alpha Splatbook so I can read it. Are there PDF's or something similar to that of the stuff inside it, or no?

If there are, could somebody post a link? Thanks in advance.

>>9887780
Stark's way ahead of you, bro.
>>9885720

>>9887763
>>9887779

Ohoho, I'm really behind on this, aren't I?

I love that picture. Holy crap, that's my goal.

>>9887792

*headdesk*

Thanks bro.

Stark... you still here? The thread is dying.

I want to get in on this D:

Anyone looking for players?

>>9887792

Wait, in that case, how the hell do I extract files from a .zip? I think I already tried downloading it, and failed miserably.

>>9887810
More like its a whole bunch of players looking for a DM.

>>9887825
Winrar? You can pretty much get it for free... well... anywhere.

>>9887809
I don't reply or contribute to discussion unless there is someone asks a question that isn't already answered in the thread or if there's nothing to say.
I'm working on the Bestiary at this moment.
I'm going to keep doing that unless there is meaningful discussion.

>>9887855

I am the epitome of failrar. I can't figure this out, it says some problem is keeping it from being encrypted. Oh well.

I'll just wait till July to read it.

>>9887913
Download this link.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=D5P64J4W
Try open that one.

>>9887940
>More food!
I think I just found my long lost brother in a manga.

>>9887940

Tried it, same result as last one. I'm sending the link to a more competent friend of mine, but thank you very much.

>>9887940
The following image comes to mind:
Man walks into a bar and approaches the most attractive woman. While opening the inside of his jacket and revealing over ten Gym Badges he says, "So, uh, ever seen a real man?" The woman swoons immediately and the fellow gets whatever he wants.

Pokemon Trainers are the jocks.

>>9888106
Oh god. Why do I want this to be a plausible reality so badly?

>>9888106
>>9888169
You do realize that becoming a talented trainer would involve having an athletic body to travel everywhere and would actually be incredibly intelligent. fa/tg/uys would not be the jocks in this world.

>>9888196

Then why are there Pokenerds in the weirdest places?

>>9888196
This is the truth. Pokemon trainers should get pretty wiry and spry and have the stamina of gods. Not to mention they need to be able to take some hits themselves for those times when Charizard won't obey you and would rather use your head for a candle instead.

Having an awesome pokemon would be like having an adorable, loyal dog, a porche, and a home gym that sees a lot of use all in one.

>>9888220
Every hobby has its neckbeards.

Notice they're still universally thin and wiry. They've just never taken care of themselves beyond getting all that excercise.

And considering the kinds of pokemon they generally use (Koffing, Muk, Magnemite family, Other "Cave" "Underground" or "Sewer" pokemon) they still don't seem to get out much for any reason other than to collect pokemon.

So, has anyone actually seriously used, or thought about using a Coordinator?

Moneyfarm or no moneyfarm, it just doesn't seem that much fun to base your entire character build around contests as I understand them in this game.

>>9888541
I agree 100%, hardly anyone is going to use Coordinator.

I've run a few Pokemon games, and I've achieved the most success basing adventures AROUND going to find monsters.

They gather information on where to find a certain one they want to capture in the gameworld, I tell them where it is based on how hard I want them to have to work for it, and they run into trouble and obstacles along the way.

It's hard to find people nerdy enough to run Pokemon games, but even with loose rules they can be very fun. I feel like there are a lot of storytelling opportunities its copyright holders outright ignored/missed.

>>9888541
Yeah, but if it wasn't included there'd be that one dude who really really fucking wanted to play coordinator, and it'd just break his heart that it was ommitted. And we don't want that.

>>9888541

I was thinking of doing that- I enjoyed a lot of the non-combat oriented stuff about the Pokemon world.

>>9888541
Well, you could always have your player challenge Gym leaders to contests.
"You think you're tough, Brock? LET'S SEE WHO'S THE TOUGH ONE!"

...Tough's a contest trait, yeah?

>>9889042
Yes, and that would be awesome.

>>9888541
One of my playtesters is a Coordinator.
He's a Coordinator/Ace Trainer and between Ribbons and Badges he levels up a lot. He's the highest level of the party. He enjoys it. The contests are much like Gym Battles where he needs to use strategy to win a Ribbon like he would a Badge.

>>9889461

That sounds pretty awesome. If I don't DM this for my group, I think I'll try Coordinator.

>>9889461
Also, I should note:
The GM keeps track of how much a pokemon likes you, naturally a pokemon is really psyched after defeating a Gym Leader's pokemon but most battles are so close, they are quickly returned in order to not collapse from exhaustion. Unless it was a one sided victory, in which case the winning pokemon will be able to soak up the spot light and make it super jazzed and happy.
However, in Contests there is no way the pokemon will be unfit to soak in the spotlight once they win. Its a huge ego boost to pokemon who win Contests and I've had several pokemon evolve while on the pedestal.

Goodnight, /tg/.
Nice keeping company with you good folks all day long.

>>9890130
'night doctor.
keep up the good work.

Night Stark.

Good luck, and god speed.

>>9890130
Have my children.

Bump

rolled 16 = 16

1. Use Mind Control on Arceus.
2. Become Omniscient, granting infinite int, and int modifiers.
3. Kill Arceus with a throwing star.
4. ???
5. PROFIT.

I'm more of a Steel, Ground, and Psychic guy.

>>9895235
I'm pretty sure one of the Mystic classes will allow you to essentially do that.

Not sure about the infinite Int mods, though.

>>9895235
>1. Use Mind Control on Arceus.
>2. Become Omniscient, granting infinite int, and int modifiers.
>3. OH GOD I CAN SEE FOREVER
>4. ???
>5. PROFIT. (With a surplus in insanity and exploding heads)

Fixed it for you.

>>9895235
>>9895982
>Implying you'll ever roll high enough to mind control Arceus.

>>9875159
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>>9897113
No. Seriously. Why the fuck is this shit still going on?

>>9898178
Because Swedish autist pedophiles.

>>9897110

Mind Control: Influential Feature
Prerequisites: Influential, 28 INT, Level 18
At-Will – Drains 15 HP every 15 seconds.
Target: Pokemon or Trainers.
Effect: You have control of the target entirely. You know what they know and can have them do anything they are capable of doing. Using this on a target leaves discoverable psychic residue.

Bro, there IS no roll. It's basically just * INSERT PSYCHIC ONOMATOPOEIA* "You're now under my control".

>>9879097
THAT GODDAMN IMAGE!

That's the image that I will never forget. Look at those tiny pokeballs, know what diameter they are? Approximately 12 gauge, do you have any idea how many ideas that concept spawned for me and my friends?