Godzilla

Hi.

I'm kinda surprised Khorne wasn't our fault.

Hi.

I'm thinking some kind of Chaos God of Hubris.

It won't necessarily bring a new god into existence, according to the newest fluff in 5th edition rulebook humanity is undergoing a mass outbreak of mutation and psychic awakening.

This might not result in a new warp god, but bring about an intergalactic warp overlap or a new enslaver plague instead, both of which would be equally devastating.

>>9514669
Wouldn't Khorne be Orks though? I mean, all they want is to fight. Khorne is that taken to the farthest extreme.

Chaos God of GRIMDARK. It's sole purpose is to make everything darker and edgier and ZOMG HOPELESSNESS.

It's Superboy Prime.

>>9514694
Khrone is Hate

Orks don't hate

>>9514694
The orks got GORK AND MORK, ORKIEST OF ALL THE GODS!

>>9514669
Khorne was a combination of a lot of races actions not one specific event, I think he came into being during the late medieval period.

>>9514692
Unless the Tyranids eat us all first.

Fear. Every single mistake Humanity has made and every mistake they continue to make is due in large part to fear. Fear is necessary for our survival, but in 40k, humanity has taken in beyond the extreme.

>>9514594
Humans are heading in the opposite direction.

Eldar were a bunch of indolent hedonist faggots buttfucking and raping and murdering for fun.

Humans are an oppressive mass of hopeless worker drones serving a massive bureaucracy. NO FUN ALLOWED.

>>9514761
A Chaos God of Fear, eh? Considering how the current big 4 have opposites, who will oppose the God of Fear? Nurgle perhaps? Or Slaanesh?

>>9514792

Marneus Calgar, the God of War.

Superstition.

Eldar worship their gods in a decadent po-mo sort of way.
Gork 'n' Mork are worshipped because they's the orkiest.
Emprah/Omnissiah? Pure superstition and paranoid ritual. Nothing but a mental sandtrap.

Cultists of this as-yet unnamed Power would spend the bulk of their time in fervent ritual, avoiding their many taboos and reciting prayers with fiery passion.

>>9514792
Malal.

>>9514792
By that logic, the new god would be the opposite of Malal.
If Malal is Chaos For The Sake of Chaos, Chesed would be all about following and enforcing the rules.
Which kind of fits, when you consider Commissars and HERESYBLAM.

>>9514843
>>9514839
Malalmind.

>>9514843
YES

YES

YEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

NOW THE CHAOS STAR WILL BE SIX POINTED

THE JEWSTAR

FARGOTH, THE LORD OF THE RINGS

Malal.

>>9514873

It's shall be shall arise from the Internet.

Trolling for the Troll God.

"HI GUYS!!!"

Chaos Gods "Oh Fuck!"

>>9514843
Well yes, you got:

Khorne, god of simple-minded battle and slaughter versus tzeentch, god of excessive planning and douchebaggery.

Slaanesh, god of excess and pleasure versus Nurgle, god of apathy and despair.

All directly opposed. It would make sense that Malal, god of chaos for the sake of chaos would be opposed by a god that embodies pure order.

Think of it in a biblical sense. Malal is the whole demon "Complete anarchy and freedom no matter the cost" with the angel "rule with an iron fist. My way or be obliterated" mindset.

Back in the early days of warhammer/40k lore I believe it went something like:

Khorne gained his consciousness in the medieval period. It was on a battlefield that resembled a lake of blood. Khornes thrown still sits within that lake.... though it now resembles an ocean.

Tzeentch gained his consciousness in the Renaissance.
Nurgle in the black death.

oddly due to the warp being timeless even though Khorne, Slaanesh, Nurgle and Tzeentch gained their consciousness at set times in history.... they still existed and affected events before they were "born"

>>9515003
>oddly due to the warp being timeless even though Khorne, Slaanesh, Nurgle and Tzeentch gained their consciousness at set times in history.... they still existed and affected events before they were "born"
I'm completely alright with this. An awesome bit of fluff, there.

>>9514999
got it a bit wrong

"hope - despair" is Tzeentch/Nurgle
"lust - hate" is Slaanesh/Khorne

well, roughly. I still need to read a couple of the liber chaotica

>>9514999
>>9515158
You're both wrong.

Tzeentch is in opposition to Nurgle because Nurgle's core ideal -that everything and everyone eventually comes to death, destruction, and decay- belies an inevitability that infuriates the changer of ways.

Slaanesh is all about perfection of the SELF, and pleasure for the SELF, and thus Khorne's attitude of Destroy the OTHER, Slaughter the OTHER, is a drastic opposition.

By extension, if Malal is Chaos for the sake of Chaos, it makes sense that his rival would be all about mindless conformity and order.
I nominate that the new Chaos Power of Order be named "Chesed." It means literally "six," and being named after a number makes sense for someone all about the bureaucracy. Chesed's role, as mentioned previously, is also perfect given the current state of the Imperium.

>Chesed
>From the Kabbalah
Meh. Why not a word from a Turkic people of some kind, as that's what the Emperor supposedly was iirc.

>>9515333
Red lines represent "opposed" powers, blue lines represent "allied" powers.

>>9515633
Malal hates EVERYONE though. He/She is very much opposed to any god worship even its own.

god of atheists ftw

There's supposed to be some Xenos Cabal that believes that if humanity is destroyed, the Chaos Gods will be taken down with them forever too. One of the Traitor Primarchs is part of that cabal too, IIRC.

Hexadei, Chaos god of Opression, Conformity and Fear, opposed to Malal, Chaos god of Chaos.

>>9515333
I like. Chesed's not a great name, but it's decent enough.
And to be fair to thou, Khorne being phonetically Corn isn't exactly straight-face epic either.

Chesed, god of Oppression.
HAIL CHESED, LORD OF TYRANNY!

Found Chesed's theme song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_ZsERw4pWo

>>9515808
I can do you one better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUpIg9ZFsd4&playnext_from=TL&videos=me8quPt53lE

>>9515333
It's slightly (if not more) different in almost every book that handles it. That's one of the things I like about 40K, actually- the inconsistency. There's no real absolute source of unquestionable information. There's a lot of room for the players' own interpretations.

>Chesed
>implying Emperor or God Emperor [of Mankind] isn't good enough and doesn't fit better into the "Order for Order's sake" theme.
They're already worshipping him!

>>9515633
The hell are "Chesed" and "Malal"? God of Cheese and God of... Nothing?

What would a Sorcerer of Chesed be able to do? Dominate enemies? Chain them? Turn them to stone?

>>9515910
Chesed is some bullshit from Judaic Mythology. (associated with kindness and love)
Malal is a retconned God of Chaos that hated and had the single purpose of destroying all other Chaos gods. (among other things)
>>9515941
>implying they aren't able to purge the filthy xeno

>>9515941
As a master of a secret cult, he would lead near-constant prayers and give lengthy sermons about how to live your life, down to the smallest detail.

On the battlefield (since EVERYONE takes to the battlefield in 40k) he would command legions of troops marching and firing in perfect synchronization.

>>9515941
See http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Ecclesiarchy

>>9515961
Chesed is the number six in Hebrew. It has a variety of mythological and astrological connections, which vary depending on who you ask.
Stop trying to sound smart when you're just a pretentious ass. That's my job.

>>9515941
Petrification.
ME LIKE.
Combines Chaos and Tyranny nicely.

Mental Domination, yeah.
Paralysis, yeah.
Make targets into Constructs?

In the current state of the imperium, I find it unlikely that any more gods will be created, at least not by humans. The year 40k is far to ridden with conflicts with so many thousands of possible angles, I do not believe humanity as a whole has enough focus to spare on indulgences, at least not on the level that the eldar did before the fall.

I think humans are going to be too tied up with the C'tan, the hordes of orks, and the incoming invasion of tyranids in the next few thousand years to have time to throw planetwide metal concerts and orgies that span the solar system.

>>9515984
Several explanations. None of which I think /tg/ would like.
"God's Love for the People of Israel" isn't exactly the kind of thing i'd want involved in WH40K, fanfiction or no fanfiction.

>>9515980

He wouldn't have religion, he would have a bunch of dudes dictating his will and expecting you to follow it. They would be like propaganda officers and demagouges, spouting litanies of obedience rather than enlightenment. His would be an empire of iron, steel and concrete, built on the foundations of the back breaking labour of billions, with officers and soldiers and aristocrats enjoying huge boons for their service.

Chesed is unlike the other gods in that he wants to impose his will on the entire Warp. He wants to control it, so he can control every psychic being. When Cheseds forces obey orders and work in tandem, even Khorne's armies can't stand against them, but when disobedience is rife, Chesed is foiled.

He's also the God of Slavery.

you guys do realize that Malal opposes HIMSELF, right?

>>9516021
It doesnt need to be indulgence and rock concerts you know, that was eldar.

The crushing overbearing control of the imperium is actually pretty much their only focus, its pretty much all you're allowed to do.

A god of subjugation actually makes a suprising amount of sense should human psychic awakening continue growing. Well done /tg/!

This guy sounds a lot like Hasphut, the Chaos Dwarfs's guy. Especially the petrification angle.

>>9516145
Why do you think he can never seem to make up his mind on something?

CHAOS GOD OS INDECISION!

It's not really implied at all that there humans will create a 5th power. What is implied is the total ascendancy of Chaos and then the end of the universe.

>>9516264

Galaxy, you mean. Chaos ain't everywhere.

>>9516230
God is the Operating System of existence? WTF?

>>9516229
Seriously, people need to go read some Chaos Dwarf fluff which may or may not still be canonical.

But anyway, Hashut owns. It is interesting that the god of tyranny and industry is an offshoot of the god of battles.

Since The Fall didn't occur in Warhammer Fantasy how was Slaanesh born?

Chaos God of Religion and Intolerance

>>9516325
It was always around, like the other Chaos gods.

Every culture in Warhammer has its own gods that they invent for themselves. It is implied that they are all merely aspects of the eternal, all-powerful Chaos gods.

Nurgle, the Imperium is already rotten to the core. Fuck they worship a decaying Corpse of all things!

>If so what kind of God will Humanity unleash?
Choose one:

Best case scenario: The God of Fuck Yeah
Boring case scenario: The Emperor God of Grim Dark all the time
Worst case scenario: Chaos God of 4Chan

>>9516351
>>9516340
Since you brought it up, let me show you the last thread I was particularly creative in...

>>9514674
it suddenly all makes sense...

I can imagine that Chesed's domain would be a massive, seemingly endless quarry, filled with billions of the other gods daemons, surveyed by monstrous Golems (lesser daemons) and Taskmasters, Chesed's greater Daemons, who keep them in check through force of will and law. Chesed would dwell in a massive tower, visible from everywhere near Chesed's domain.

>>9516441
Everything in this domain would have to be numbered. Could be stenciled on with spray paint, could be engraved into your flesh. Doesn't matter. When you entire the domain of Chesed, you will be numbered, filed, stamped, sorted, pushed, and put in your place.

Xenophobia, Fanaticism, Hate

My theory is that there's an "Eye of Terror" for each of the Chaos Gods that exist in different galaxies, the remenants of dead empires that span the stars.

There was an empire out there that was as full of hate as the Eldar were full of excess.
An empire out there that was as full of schemes, too.
An empireo ut there that was as full of despair, too.

>>9516473

And if you were stuck there, you would work for eternity, unable to die, whipped if you stopped.

>>9516508

>>9516542

Pretty much. Anyone who subjegates people, wether it be malicious or benevolent, would end up fueling Chesed.

Business tycoons, drill-sargeants, dictators, generals, priests... I could go on. All of it goes to Chesed, the Chaos god of Stability and Tyranny.

I'd imagine that Chesed's domain would also have all sorts of elaborate, clockwork devices, each with a specified purpose and thousands of slaves turning the gears. Chesed would have ridiculously powerful siege engines on the battlefield, stuff that would put titans to shame.

>>9516642

All pulled by/powered by slaves. Bloodthirsters chained and whipped, not even their anger strong enough to break Chesed's bonds...

...most of the time.

>>9516730
>>9516642
I love you /tg/

As for slaves sometimes rebelling, it would have to be an extreme fire of rebellion to escape the Lord of Dominion.
We're talking Kamina-levels of Manly Passion For Freedom.
With that much fury in a single individual, you're either going to get a Red Lantern or a spontaneous Khornate Possession. Could be dangerous, but also potentially useful, on the battlefield.

>>9516805

To escape the Great Tyrant's Realm in the Warp, you would have to be VERY important to one of the other gods. Chesed's realm is a submarine made of sadness in an ocean of apathetic piss. A bit like /tg/. Rebellions would never happen, because a mortal's mind would be destroyed, while daemons would be ground up into pure, daemonic energy or be fed to Chesed, who is, like all tyrants, a greed-fuelled glutton.

Hmm probably a god of hatred, oppression, and ignorance. The EYE OF TERRA

>a submarine made of sadness in an ocean of apathetic piss. A bit like /tg/.

>>9516583
So is the Emprah Tzeentch or Chesed?

I'm all confused now...

Dear OP,

It's also strongly implied that the faith of the imperial people will someday help the Emperor ascend to true godhood so that he can fight the Chaos gods themselves.

Put 2 and 2 together.

>>9517430

As though the Emperor wouldn't become a Chaos god himself after chilling with the others for a few millennia.

I think Chesed's appearance wold be that of a ghost with armor. Helmet, that only shows one black eye, plate armor, gauntlets, belt, pauldrons (HUGE PAULDRONS, OBVIOUSLY) and would always carry a sword and a weighing scale, and would ALSO be the god of "balance"; because if you disrupt the balance, you disrupt the order. You fear to disrupt that balance so much, you have to live full of limitations to not be punished.

Chesed should also have paladins. Lawful stupid paladins actually. His daemons would look like decayed or fallen angels.

His cultist or warriors are actually puppets, null of soul or emotion, controlled by a group of sorcerers. BUT it would also meant that you get to DIE and he will NOT let your soul be eaten by anything else. He protects you because you served him, and you gave up your life because you were afraid of what could happen to you. He is a god of order, balance, retribution and fear, also a protector figure. As Nurgle could be seen as a god of Peace, Khorne as a god of Bravery and Slaneesh as a god of pleasure and joy/love, then chesed is the protector and guardian.
He also ensures no one can win this intergalactic war: war is the status quo.

>>9517525
>>9517430
horus heresy states thet the emperor was stronger than all the chaos gods combined. I think he CAN become a "chaos" god, but is bound to his physical body.

The God of Fear, Oppression, and Fanaticism?

I like. I like very much.

The idea is good, but the name "Chesed" is retarded.

Come on, /tg/...

>>9517623

Yeah. A guy from Anatolia who is the reincarnation of caveman shamans is somehow more powerful than the things that gain power from an entire galaxy's raging emotions, and took millennia to form due to such emotions.

This is why 40k is a retarded setting.

>>9517706
think it this way: the emperor was Malal.
Everyone was atheist while he was alive.
BLAM!

>>9517529
I like the idea of the puppets. Faceless, featureless dolls, each with a soul trapped in side, screaming to escape, but compelled against their will to move and fight. I don't think they'd be controlled by sorcerers, but by the oppressive will of Chesed himself.

god of sloth.

>>9517727

Since when did Chaos give a shit whether people are atheists or not. This is not DnD, they don't subsist on faith but base emotion. Unless the BL stuff has retconned that too, well after Goto one can expect anything...

>>9517732
more than against their will, convinced by Chesed. They just obey. Thats all what they do: Obey.
Their souls are actually "safe" inside those shells (safe from everything thats not Chesed), but by protecting their souls, they render themselves souless.
Sounds grimdark enough to me.

>>9517761
>Since when did Chaos give a shit whether people are atheists or not.
0/10

In case you are not trolling; Malal is a god of ATHEISM [warhammer fantasy]. Since you didnt get the joke, please get out of this thread.
Thanks.

>>9517529
I picture Chesed, or whatever we call him, a little differently. He wouldn't have a human representation. If he chose to manifest himself, it would be some kind of horrifying machine incomprehensible to a mortal mind.

>>9517820

The now squatted Malal is not the god of atheism in any version of Warhammer, nor has ever been.

>>9517832
Yes yes, but all chaos gods have a given "form" that we can understand. Nurgle, for example, is a rotting green bamboozled rotting weird fat ...thing. Did i mention is rotten?

>>9517860
It is inside /tg/

>>9517887

/tg/ = bizarroworld?

>>9517879
So yeah, by that logic, Chesed would likely appear as an incomprehensible lovecraftian set of clockwork.
Works for me.

For reference on the dolls stuff, check out this (nightmarefuel) video:

http://vimeo.com/4749536

>>9517908
sort of.

>>9517931
GLORIOUS

>>9517921
Me too. And I'm totally making a Cleric of the Path of Chesed as my next DH character, 'Chesed' being the Path's name for the Emprah- or would that be heresy?

>>9518403
Every planet worships him slightly differently.

None of my players have ever read Lovecraft, so I punished them last year with a planet where the Emperor is worshiped as a great warrior beyond comprehension, sleeping beneath the waves. (cf Planet Innis-Moth III)

If you want to call him Chesed, that should be fine.

>>9517529
No, he should still look like the Emperor. Or what other races imagined the Emperor to be like.

The double-headed eagles are his own beasts like the horrors and those weird seahorsey things.

I imagine the Astropaths end up flashburning into Greater Daemons thanks to each one being bound to his soul.

What happens to the Adeptus Mechanicus?

>>9517931
Nightmares: Achieved.

>>9519049
Admech become the taskmasters of Emprah/Chesed's new kingdom, given their coldly logical nature.

>>9519153
Counterpoint:

The Void Dragon's on Mars. Without the Emperor alive to hold it, it's freed, and let's face it, AdMech are his bitches.

So I guess what I'm really asking is:

CHESED V THE VOID DRAGON: FIGHT.

>>9519049
>>9519202

Perhaps what happens is that the golden throne, with the emperor on it, becomes the embodiment of Emperor, god of order, tyranny and slavery. I could see the astropaths being swayed by their psychic link to the Astronomicon. Perhaps the AdMech splits between those worshipping the void dragon and those enslaved to Emperor.

>>9519202
HERESY

But yes, I would pay to see that fight.

I'm liking the fear part the most.

What is the positive aspect of fear? Survival.

GUYS
I'M NOT QUITE SURE YOU'RE GETTING THIS!
EVERY TIME I READ CHESED I READ CHEESED!
AS IN "WHOA GUYS, I'M HELLA CHEESIN RIGHT NOW"
OR AS IF ONE WAS BATTERED WITH DAIRY PRODUCTS
OR TURNED INTO CHEDDAR

>>9519568
I read it as "Chess'd"

Like some old guy in glasses and a vest might say after he just checkmated you in record time. "YOU JUST GOT CHESED!"

>>9519591
WHOA,
IF IT'S CHESS'D THAT'S EVEN WORSE!
IT'S LIKE GOD OF ABS!

How about Discipline as the positive aspect of Tyranny?
Chesed's followers are very self-motivated; Chesed rewards laxity with death.

>>9519622
I've been hanging out with the other daemons in the warp, but there's one really weird one my friends tell me to avoid. Chess'd. He's got like a 48-pack and whenever he talks to anyone he's like HOO LOOK AT MY CHEST. GET IT? HA HA

>>9519663

As in "You have been lax in your duties. I think you would serve my Reich better as a construct. Prepare to toil endlessly for eternity while your soul screams for forgiveness"?

/r/ing immediate archival.

>>9519461
It's so heretical it's delicious.

>>9519428
Split between the siren perfect code of the Void Dragon (MARS CALLS! THE DRAGON CALLS!) and the flawless order of the Emperor-on-the-Throne ([insert code here]), leading to vicious oily battles of AdMech kitted out with gauss v warp-touched AdMech?

Fuck yeah, motherfuckers.

>>9519885
>flawless order of the Emperor-on-the-Throne ([insert code here])
>PICT RELATED OH YES.

>>9519952
What did I do now? It'd be awesome.

I am utterly shocked and appalled no one seems to have mentioned Necoho and Suzassin in this thread.

Introduced in 'Something Rotten in Kislev', a supplement for the first edition of Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay, Necoho was the Chaos God of Atheists and Zuvassin was the Chaos God of Undoing.

Necoho is only 'worshipped' in one tiny, tiny village in Kislev, and unlike all the other Chaos Gods, gets more powerful the less people believe in him. Zuvassin is the anti-Tzeentch, in that as the Undoer, if you follow him, you're utterly screwed unless you're really, really good. Basic followers have all their plans undone and in the actual rpg, you could try to cast a spell and there'd be a random chance you'd blow up/cast another spell/cast your spell/not cast. Plus if you followed Zuvassin you'd actually lose stat points each level...

It's speculated that the two were included as two aspects of Malal, as they represent no gods and Chaos essentially failing, which could be said to be the two aspects of Malal. It is interesting to note that Malal's symbol was a bisected skull - probably why the two Gods could be considered to be halves of Malal. Plus at that point the creator of Malal had severed contact with GW and retained copyright.

>>9519966
Flawless order of the Emperor-on-the-Throne? ([HOW ABOUT I SLAP YOUR SHIT, VOID DRAGON?])

>>9519982

Continued.

There's also the 3 Gods of Law and Order. To quote from the first ed Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay book, "The Gods of Law came in to existance at the same time as the Chaos Gods, and are dedicated to their own ideals of permanence and stability."

They consist of Alluminas, master of light, everlasting and unchanging. Essentially, permanence, the antithesis of the mutability of Chaos. Secondly there is Arianka, though not much is known about her as an unnamed Chaos God defeated her and imprisoned her in a crystal coffin. Lastly there is Solkan, a god of vengeance and retribution of justice upon wrongdoers.

The 4 Chaos Gods Nurgle, Khorne, Slaanest and Tzeentch, combined with Malal and the 3 Gods of Law Alluminas, Arianka and Solkan, make up the 8 points on the Chaos star.

As such if humanity gave rise to another Chaos God, it wouldn't become a Jewstar, it's have 9 points.

God damn it.

>>9519987
Let me have my infighting factions, foul chaos spawn >:C

What colors go to Chesed, anyway?

I'm picturing Chesed and his followers like a grimdark version of Jyggalag and co. from Oblivion.

>>9520003
Yellow and red.

>>9520036
Then he'd just be bizarro Khorne.

>>9520003
A very martial maroon or burgundy?

>>9520077
I wonder if you could fit a spider in a respirator tube?

>>9520118
Like the colour of MC-Ham's pants, there.

>>9520003
Very somber and toned down colors, chief among them being grey.

>>9520118
I'd say go nuts with the royal colors, but Slaanesh got there first.

How about greys with little contrasting splashes of color?

>>9520139
I use a nonhose system, thank the Omnissiah. I still have a lung in there I use.

But I think neutrals is a good start. What's his holy number?

>>9519776

Should be double archived immediately.

>>9520170
3.14159265.

How is the spider going to get out, if there are no tubes?

>>9514594
>>9514594

Fuck me I always loved that picture...

In going to battle against Hesed's forces one rarely hears the battle cries common to other chaos bands. For few fight for him willingly. Instead, the entire battlefield is subsumed in a din groans and anguish coming from his siege engines while the construct-enslaved silently scream, trying to escape from their prison.

>>9520198
Why are you always threatening me with spiders in various parts of my anatomy? I didn't even do anything this time. Are you still in that fucking farseer?

Double-headed eagles, somber-grey-neutral colors, Eagle-y motifs and pulling BRICKWALL CASTLE MOTIFs.

AdMech warped ramrod-straight, Sisters worshiping themselves to death, cultists who mindlessly, senselessly KILL! MAIM! PRAISE!. Massive byzantine castles and machines that don't seem to have any purpose. To walk with Chesed is to be safe. It is to be protected from harm perfectly. It is to live without fear of corruption or lawlessness. Everything is in order with Chesed. Everything is ordained and perfect.

Daemons' look? Lots of bindings and wrappings and stuff on the daemons. They are as metal or stone. Locks and pins and cages?

>>9520240
Or filled with so many praises and litanies that it's deafening.

>>9520289
Lost my name a moment there.

brb, sealing the warp

>>9520315
Hey, you assholes get half of Mars with the Void Dragon waking up and fucking everyone's shit up.

You'd also get to slapfight over Techmarines.

>>9520289
>Why are you always threatening me with spiders in various parts of my anatomy
Passive trolling. Sorry.

And yes!


>Massive byzantine castles and machines that don't seem to have any purpose
Like Macs?

And the leader of the army must be dressed in a sharp sports jacket. It's an icon of rank.

Ok, I had another idea. What if the presence of the forces of Hesed literally suck the color out of an area. Like one second it's color television and the next it's black and white.

>>9520391
>black and white
>sports jacket
YES.

>>9520344
>slapfight over Techmarines
What?

>>9520384
I'll just not take it too personally

>macs
hahaha that's pretty funny.

Maybe the daemons could be clockwork golemic types with massive metal eagle wings. Possibly with two heads.

Pict related?

>>9520421
Techmarines are full-fledged techpriests. If the Void Dragon exerts powers over Admech's priesthood, then in theory, it also gets the techmarines. Unless they're too faithful or some bullshit.

Which has potential for interesting shit.

They give birth to Empra, the God of Fascism.

>>9520601
And then the spess mehrens' stuff started breaking due to no techies.

And then they'd have to get an outside force to maintain their tech, meaning that they'd have to be dependant on someone else for once.
>my face

>>9520663
Exactly! Not to mention the Librarians might explode or something from the backlash.

Marines get fucked the hardest when the Empra gets back.

>>9520682
The spess mehrens might even have to band together.
...OH MAN.

The heck is going on here? Doesn't look like heresy...

>>9520682
Navy gets fucked harder.

>>9520710
SPACE WOLVES AND IRON HANDS, SLAPFIGHTING WITH ULTRAMARINES WHILE DARK ANGELS COMPLAIN.

It'd be AWESOME.

>>9520714
And then they drop out of warp-space in another universe all what the FUCK just happened while their astropaths bleed out and the techpriests scream until their voxes break.

Then they land and Earth is like 'the fuck is THIS alien bullshit'.

Cue crossover fic involving them prepping for chaos to drop out the warp.

>>9520712
Speculation.

>>9520682
And what about the IG? They'd be the Emperor's bitches still, right?
...And what about the Inquisitors?

>>9520744
About tech failure?

>>9520663
Then suddenly the Blood Angels consent to disperse all their built-up knowledge of the Baal Predator and Lucifer pattern engines.

But not to the Ad-Mech.

Dante has a good laugh and does a run which passes by every single Blood Angel and Successor Chapter with their hands out as a massive line of high fives run across a planet happens.

>>9520718
Slap-fighting with powerfists.

And, actually, Salamanders know how to fix their own stuff. Basic training-Does that mean we get to be the new 'Giz us bling, or we don't fix yo shit' guys?

>>9520744
I bet IG doesn't even notice because the Administratum's fucked hard- no FTL comm means no FTL coordination. EVERYONE IS STRANDED, NO ONE KNOWS WHAT THE FUCK.

Half the Inquisition melts because aren't most-all of them psykers? The leftovers start epic slapfighting each other. Some of them seek out the true Emprah, some fall to Chesed, some of them GET THE FUCK OUT and try to simply keep what's left of free Humanity in one piece.

>>9520769
Iron Hands are basically 'ADMECH: THE MARINES' so them and Salamanders both own shit up in this house.

>>9520783
If my trollface was able to be seen, I fear it would break the barrier between the warp and real-space.
THE IRON HANDS AND SALAMANDERS FORM A NEW CHAPTER. What'd it be called?

>>9520760
About humanity pooping out a new god, ala Slaanesh.

>>9520863
THE IRON DRAGONS.

the void dragon thinks that is funny as shit, of course.

>>9520863
Well, we'd need to examine the circumstances that would result in such an event. Are we talking about this actually being the Emperor, or an entirely new entity born of humanity's current condition?

This thread has got me thinking.

Anyone ever run a DH game with a chaos cult focus, but not use undivided or one of the big four, using one of the minor gods that got retconed, or from WHFB?

>>9520942
The Emperor passing on is the cause. How he dies might matter- I mean, Cypher finally getting through vs the Throne failing vs some other shit happening.

But yeah.

>>9520863

>About humanity pooping out a new god, ala Slaanesh.

>>9520969
We talking Starchild or the Emperor's released warp presence forming a new god? The Emperor's already a god, which we can see by his ability to scare the shit out of the Dark Gods. So it'd just be forming from him, *not* the gathered souls of humanity. The only outside influence on the newly formed presence would be any sacrificed psykers, but most of them were weaker ones who wouldn't have lasted in other roles, so it's doubtful that they could overwhelm the will of the Emperor.

Assuming I know anything about that sort of thing.

>>9520894
>atomictrollface.jpg
Thunderhawk dropped Land Raider thundercannon weapon platforms over there, please.

>>9520993
Quiet, you.

>>9521035
The Emperor's only sort-of a god. He's unique in that he has a literal physical form, and who the fuck knows what happens when you snuff that thing out.

He's also much more limited than Chaos- He has no daemons, and his Living Saints can basically be counted on one hand while Chaos is running around with Greater Daemons all over the fucking place in comparison.

There's very few obvious signs of the Emperor's divinity compared to Chaos'. He's either the more subtle type, or his flesh cages him.

>>9521035
Yeah, by all accounts The Emperor is a god, as there's enough faith in belief in him for particularly focused and "pious" worshippers to perform miracles. Miracles that don't seem to rip the fabric of space open for daemons to pour out of either.

>>9521059

>>9521072
>>There's very few obvious signs of the Emperor's divinity compared to Chaos'. He's either the more subtle type, or his flesh cages him.

SMELLS LIKE HERESY.
*BLAM*
*BLAM BLAM*

>>9521072
If it's his flesh caging him, then he'd basically be grabbing a 1-up when he dies. So he'd be staying the same as he is now. Problem being "as he is now" refers to his current perspectives and mental stability after being betrayed by half his sons, watching all his sons suffer, and being stuck on the golden throne for all that time.

Of course, him being the Emperor, it's entirely possible that he's actually well adjusted towards all this. But we don't know for certain. Not that we can do anything about it, so have faith.

>>9521109

>>9521120
Fuck off, Commissar, I'm Skitarii.

>>9521130
Yeah, we're stuck rolling 1d100 and praying for a low number.

>>9521143

In some of these pictures, the Zone really resembles the Warp.

>>9521159
True.

>>9521150
He gets auto 1s on everything except psyker powers.

>>9521365

>>9521365
You'd think he'd fail at being a good dad to Horus :(c

>>9514761
Yeah

>>9521414

>You'd think he'd fail at being a good dad to all of the primarchs

Fixed that for you.

>>9521395
>ba-dum tish

>>9521414
He also has -4 Fel.

>>9521414
I blame probability.

So...

Does anyone know if there's any truth to the story that Leman Russ, disguised as an unknown wolf goddess of fertility, visits Fenris every ten years to sleep with every strong, virile, child bearing man and woman on the planet, sometimes engaging entire villages in drunken orgies in order to personally choose new Space Wolves and produce strong sons to join the ranks?

>>9521523

>>9521523
>child bearing man and woman
I see a problem with your statement.

>>9521523
I know. It's false.

>>9521523

Ah yes, the so-called "wolf goddess." We have dismissed those claims.

>>9521523
No idea. Sounds like a 'neshi cult.

>>9521593

If you pay attention to them, they'll just keep coming back, you know...

>>9521654

Ah, yes, the so-called "Laughing Man." We have dismissed those claims.

>>9521673
Oh, hey Russ! How's the missus?

>>9521673
>Implying implications
>sees what you did anyway
Is Verity out of traction yet?
I heard you went into a murderous blood-rage.

>>9521636
Most certainly, actually.

>>9521688
He IS the Missus in that relationship.

>>9514594
IMO, The Emperor =/= The God Emperor

if a chaos god were born from the imperium, it would be one that was like the exact opposite of Slaanesh, it would punish any form of deviation in its followers, it would require you to kill anything that was different, and etc. basically it would be The God 40k or The GRIMDARK.

Praise for the dark throne, Glory to the grim god! etc

the god emperor wouldn't be a chaos god, in fact his origin specifically disproves the theory of him becoming a chaos god, The Emperor is all about his soul being inside of a human body. That is the real reason so many psykers die in the golden throne, because their souls are being added to the collective that is the emperor's soul. when he fought horus his soul was damaged as badly as his body, so it needs new parts to replace the destroyed ones.

The Emperor is a collection of the souls of the most powerful shamans in human history, each one believed to be about alpha level, each one able to reincarnate themselves so they never truly died.

Wrex is so hot...

>>9521701
Wait, what? What happened?

>>9521685

>>9521737

Ah yes, this so-called "Wrex." We have dismissed those claims.

>>9521747
Verity went narky on Russ and Russ all but lost it.

>>9521765
"Narky?"

>>9521688
Fuuka?

>>9521701
>>9521712
I don't know what you're talking about.

>>9521765

Yeah, and neither Verity nor Russ could hit each other.

>>9521751
>>9521755

Sorry, I'm out of air quotes.

>>9521774
You haven't had the wedding yet?

>>9521747
Russ laid into Verity.

>>9521783
And missed totally. I'm suprised the board's still standing.

And ha-HA, frogmouths win again.

>>9521774
Sure you don't.

>>9521803
About the craziness or what? What happened with Mirage?

>>9515333
sorry you are wrong too.

Nurgle is about keeping things the same, about stagnation, yes he is about "everyone dies" and being locked into that fate irks tzeetch, but the main reason tzeetch and nurgle hate each other is because one is stagnation and the other is constant change.

tzeetch hates Khorne because Tzeetch is all about planning, big strategies, chess, Khorne hates that, he takes an axe to chess boards, his champion actually kills anyone around him that actually tries to use strategy instead of just rush that hill and kill everyone.

nurgle hates slaanesh because of the whole isha thing, and because the love and good feelings slaanesh gives isn't real, it is all chemical, where as Nurgle LOVES his children, he is their daddy.

Khorne hates nurgle because Khorne is about the strong, if you are strong, fight that man and kill him, only the strong survive. diseases, similar to sorcery, don't care, they cut down the greatest warriors right along side the weaklings, and Khorne hates that.

Slaanesh hates Khorne because Slaanesh is about the sensations and the WHY and HOW you are doing something, while Khorne is all about the doing. Khorne is single minded in the extreme while slaanesh focuses on open minded and experimentation.

>>9516145
they all oppose themselves

khorne would like to kill himself in an orgy of blood (only worthy foe is himself)
Tzeentch plots against himself
Nurgle would heal himself (his healing is more diseases)
and Slannesh would go against himself to enjoy the pain from being defeated..

how would chesed oppose himself?

>>9521803

The fight happened to hit other parts of 4chan, as evidenced in this picture.

>>9521823

Something happened with Mirage, but I'm not sure what; really hazy about her, for some reason.

>>9521832
EVERYONE IS WRONG
[advice chaos]
NO ONE IS RIGHT

>>9521848
Oh. We're good then.

>>9521852
>captain AdM
Adam? HA!

>>9521795
Fuuka keeps posting a picture of my old self in a dress next to her, but I don't remember any of that!

I'm suspecting her extra-dimensional trickery.

>>9521909
Something's wrong with my vox-ponder. I snapped the antenna today and I'm using a pole as a stand-in.

Order is simple. Slavery is simple.
He should have two tenets.
DO WHAT YOU'RE FUCKING TOLD.
GET SHIT DONE.

Having the god of order take the form of random gears that serve no apparent function is incredibly tzeentchian, and pretty much the opposite of what we need.
I propose that his demons take the shape of polyhedral figures. The simplest, and lowest ranking being a four sided die, the next most powerful is six sided, than eight, ten and so on. Simple. Ordered.

>>9521940
Knowing Fuuka, it's probably a pict. from an alternate dimension. Or CGI.

>>9521940
Well, what does that mean for your marital status? If you are married, you, or she, would have a certificate or something, right?

In the old fluff humanity is on the verge of turning into a power psyker race, stronger and smarter with powerful psyker abilities. They'll probably form into a gestalt entity and eat the chaos gods and hivemind.

>>9521846
>how would chesed oppose himself?
Chesed is about dominion.
Chesed will make himself is own slave, to its own unfair rules. Constantly haunted by guilt.

>>9521943
>a pole
Your ...pole?
>snrk

Namless, any news on Liar?

>>9521909

Nothing of value was lost.

On another note, I randomly picked a .gif file for that last post. Thank Tzeentch I didn't pick this one.

>>9521988
The pict's probably from the future.

Man is himself a Chaos God.

>>9522019
Liar? Haven't seen him, but haven't had much time to look. Been fighting off a major chaos assault.

Chesed sounds inconceivably stupid. Really. The concepts sound okay but the name is just dumb. The only reason its been adopted in the first place is because the same guy kept repeating it post after post until everyone else adopted the moniker. There has to be something better than "Chesed" because having him named after the number six doesn't make any goddamn sense anyway since Chaos has nothing to do with six.

I propose we call him Godzilla until a more suitable name can be found.

>>9522057
Humongo.

>>9522053
I believe that he's been busy. Not been on too much.
>>9522044
Well, then could it be... destiny?

>>9522020

This one would've been fine, though.

>>9522077
>>9522057

Gigantor.

>>9522083
Gigantor
Gigantor
Gigaaaaaaaaaaaantor
Gigantor the giant robot,
He's at your command!
Gigantor the great big robot,
His power is in your hands!

>>9522019
My tent's pole, actually (btw tents suck I hate the jungle etc etc).

>>9522057
Maybe some angelic name to contrast- they're all lawful assholes and the Throne-Emperor is nothing if not a lawful asshole.

>>9522095

>>9522082
>destiny?
So why is Russ in a dress?

>>9522053
...Because it's starting to get creepy in here. It's getting harder to separate me from her. What happens when we take on enough of each other's traits to equalize?

>>9522082
True love~

>>9522083
>wh-POW

>>9522057
Guillamo.

>>9522057
Slaanesh

Khorne

Nurgle

Tzeentch

Malal

and...

Billy

>>9522108
Then you'll be a trolling ass forever and we wouldn't be able to talk anymore.

Maybe you should get a wraithbone robot body or something?

>>9522108
>>9522116

HI BILLY MAYS HERE WITH CHAOS

>>9521988
No idea man.

I just try not to have her eat me or turn everyone on the planet into Tyranids, or sheep, or stark raving mad.

Ah well.

>>9522108
I suppose your two personalities will become indistiguishable from eachother, so for all intents and purposes you two will be one, neither Tarvus nor Illeywhatever, but something... greater.
>>9522104
You'd have to ask Russ.

Warp Bound Billy, the God of Lawful Apathy.

>>9522135
Is there no love in the relationship?
...
Can I pet your tail?

>>9522108
>harder to seperate
Well, your souls should stay discrete, but it sounds like you're exchanging personality traits. It might be best if we transferred you into a waystone for the time being. It might be a bit bleak, but at least we can transfer you out again.
If you happen to know where we might find a recently dead space marine, it may be possible to reanimate the corpse with you in it. Of course, we could use a regular human, but I figure you'd want something more familiar. Unless you're done being a space marine and want to try something else?

>>9522167
>recently dead space marine
Or something similar? I might have an idea.

>>9522118
>Then you'll be a trolling ass forever and we wouldn't be able to talk anymore
Not good. Not good.

>>9522152
>for all intents and purposes you two will be one, neither Tarvus nor Illeywhatever, but something... greater
But I want to be me, khaine-damnit.

>>9522177
> khaine-damnit.
Sounds like we'll have to get you outa there, then.

>>9522129

>derp

>>9522167
>>9522176
Good job! Please share this magnificient idea with the rest of us.

>>9522167
>>9522176

>>9522203
Maybe we could clone Russ.

>>9522203
I have a few. First off, we could find some poor smuck that's about to fall to chaos undivided. Technically, their soul won't be theirs once they make the deal, so maybe we can... edge him out, or maybe YOU could be the one he makes the deal with! I mean, if he's gonna fall anyway, might as well move in, right?

>>9522234

That sounds like disaster.

>>9522239
If it helps, I'm sure I can rustle up a corpse and get a body put together. I've done it before.

Or at least made the thing's limbgun without me realizing it until I'd followed the directions and unhallowed the damn thing. Fucking Radial Malleus Inquisitors are nuts.

>>9522234
I see no way that this could end horribly.

>>9522234
>pict related

>>9522239
...Sounds good, but how are we going to get me out of her without splattering us over the ceiling?

>>9522276
I don't know dick about how that would work. It's your turn for an idea.

>>9522239
Just because they've sold their soul it doesn't mean they immediately lose it. In effect, Tarvus would be trying to evict a corrupted soul. He might get... dirty. Dirtier. Better to start with a fresh corpse.

All of these ideas are horrible.

>>9522276
Maybe you could tape yourself into a phylactery of wraithbone or those dumb gemmy things and use it as a core?

Jue, God of greed.

>>9522234
Wait, what?

>>9522164
Of course there is! It's just it's very hard to manifest seeing as how she's an ethereal being whose nature is incapable of truly being understood by our mortal minds.

>>9522305

>>9522263
>>9522276
It'd explain this.

>>9522321
Clearly one is a Callidus.

>>9522303
Better than yours, tinman.
>>9522292
That's just it! It's not corrupted yet! It's about to fall! Weak resolve! Means he won't be able to resist as well as someone who knew where they stood and what they wanted to be!

>>9522328
Hey, he's a dustbin. I'm the tinman here, Haxtes.

>>9522328

I didn't suggest one yet, as I have no idea what y'all are talking about.

>>9522321
>>9522325
Both of you >implying that being in the same body as a Russ-consciousness wouldn't be worse than any hell anybody could dream up. Summoning me would be okay, I think, after you got me out of her. Except for, y'know, the HOOKS IN MY BRAIN part.

>>9522321
Dammnit, that's Horo. Or Fuuka... Or maybe Verity didn't throw away my genetic samples.

...or maybe I'm just drunk and seeing double, yeah, I think I'll just forget about this.

>>9522338
Then shut yer metaphorical trap and open your figurative ears!
>>9522334
No, you're the Gear-rear.
>>9522308
Oh-kaaaaay.
So can I pet your tail?

>>9522334

No, I'm the tin man, as I'm empty.

>>9522363

>Then shut yer metaphorical trap and open your figurative ears!

>>9522363
What am I? What am I?
inb4doubleheretic

Uh, time's almost up.

>>9522353
There wouldn't be a Russ-consciousness in a clone. It'd be a blank slate.

>>9522361
Verity has genetic samples of you? Hmmm. Except that I despise that venomous monster.

>>9522363
Offer to use a brush. Indicate that you have superior brush-handling skills. Show (elements of) own pelt as proof.

>>9522392
You think I know?

>>9514594

THE NUMEN 8)

>>9522400
Have you seen my body hair? You think I'm not adapt at the care necessary to maintain it?

>>9522388
MUST
RESIST
TROLLING

>>9522400
No.
Do not want, on any level.

>>9522436
I think you are, therefore showing it off would demonstrate that you have the appropriate skill.

>>9522392
Think it's going to have to be a waystone for you. Fortunately Harlequins are quite adept at both exorcism and binding, so there should be minimal fuss.Hopefully we can spare a few. They should be with you within a day.

>>9522436

>Doesn't see what I did there in >>9522388.

>>9522445

>See picture.

If humans are going to awaken another god, why not the omnissiah/void dragon? We already have a god for stagnation and predictability, Nurgle.

>>9522470
I fucking see it, okay? You did the opposite, very clever! OH WAIT, YOU'RE COVERING YOUR FIGURATIVE EARS AND CAN'T HEAR ME!

Hey, do *I* get a say in whether I'm cloned?

I think I do. It's not happening.

>>9522479

Well, actually, no.

>>9522469
>harlequins
?

>>9522489
No one's really going for that idea anyway.
Can I pet your tail?

>>9522500
Well, then, what?

>>9522505
Not really.

>>9522489
I dunno, you've gotten kind of wishy-washy lately. What happened to the CHAMPION OF JUSTICE!?

>>9522520
>implying I'm no longer a FRIEND OF JUSTICE

Seriously? Point me towards some wrong that needs righting, so long as it isn't being perpetrated by Verity, and it'll be done.

>>9522519
Why not?

>>9522520

Yesterday happened.

>>9522540

See?

>>9522540
My body hair is wrong. Help me right it. I can deal with the front hair, but I can't reach the back.

>>9522540
...
...
...
I figured out a way to revive the Emperor. The Ecclesiarchy won't go for it. Some of them tried to kill us for it. It's why we've been in hiding ALL THIS FUCKING TIME.

Eh. Just before I go-What about Kriegers? Me and farseer were discussing it last night. They never take off their masks AND they have pressureised armour as standard issue. So, if you find an extra krieger somewhere...
See you.

>>9522578
Later, Tarvus. If we can't find you a suitable host in the next day, it's going to have to be a waystone. Hope you can handle that.

>>9522578
I'll ask Alex next time he shows up.

>>9522561

>Implying it would be good if he started walking around again

Ever heard of the Astronomican?

>>9522555
...

>>9522561
Uh...

>>9522624
After that big pose, you won't even help a friend shave his back?

>>9522631
I doubt that counts as 'justice', Haxtes. Also, hello.

>>9522620
Yes. So. How did ships navigate before the Horus Heresy? There was this beacon-thingy.

>>9522624
...hmmm? I'll give you that it's not guaranteed, but it's the best chance we've had in ten thousand years. And even if it doesn't work on him, there are these injured or incapacitated Primarchs who could benefit from the same procedure.

>>9522654
Dammit, why won't anyone help?!

>>9522631
It's not that, I just thought you wanted a trim?

>>9522664
Well, yeah, I need it shorter. Much shorter. Like, a half-inch at most. So you gonna help me?

>>9522658

>Yes. So. How did ships navigate before the Horus Heresy? There was this beacon-thingy.

I'm pretty sure it isn't explained.

>>9522659

Because that is fucking disgusting.

>>9522659
>sigh
Fine. But you'll owe us a great deal of favours, Haxtes.
>shwing

>>9522678
Go cuddle a horror.
>>9522686
FINALLY! Thank you.

>>9522721

>Go cuddle a horror.

I'd prefer it.

Ah, crud. another assault incoming.

Hello, Farseer. Goodbye, Farseer. There'll be a couple of Harlequins along to remove Tarvus from your head, within the next day.

Narl, don't let the Farseer shave any amusing designs into your back. If she does, it's probably Tarvus' fault.

Rubric, I intend to save you from the horror of you existence. Whether you like it or not.

Primarch - well damn.

rolled 3 + 20 = 23

>>9522721

>>9522758

>Implying my existence is a horror.
>Implying I need saving.

>>9522773
Easy.

>>9522758
>There'll be a couple of Harlequins along to remove Tarvus from your head, within the next day
Really? Not trolling?

>>9522758
Huh? Oh, huh.
See ya.
>>9522773
So... how's it going back there?

Wow, this thread really went to shit near the end. Oh well, doesn't cheapen the awesome that is the early stuff.

rolled 89 + 20 = 109

>>9522809
Hold still.

>>9522827

Shitty endings to threads, like this one, happens sometimes, Anon. It's still pretty awesome, though, I agree.

>>9522833
You doing alright back there?

>>9522862
>implying you're not part of the shit

>>9522893

Never said I wasn't.

>>9522884
Should be finished.
And only a minimal amount of singeing! I should have followed the Path of the Barber.

>>9522913
I appreciate that. How's it look?

Oh! Let's gather up all the hair and use it to mess with Ru-
Certain people.

>>9515333
Since when does "chesed" mean "six"?

More specifically, the Hebrew word for six is "shesh". "Chesed" (better transliterated "Hesed" with a dot under the "H") is a word that means... something like loving kindness. Learn2Hebrew, pal.

>>9522925
You look less like a walking tumbleweed, if that counts for anything.

>mess with
>trolling
How?

>>9522978
You know those junkyard cranes with those big magnets on them? The one's that they used to use to movie heavy metal cars with?

>>9523021
>Ad-mech stuff
Yes?

Night heretics.

>>9523080
Sleep well, mutant.

>>9523044
We'll need that, some wire mesh, and some crazy glue. And the hair.
>>9523080
Night, Russ. Don't forget to tuck in Fuuka.

>>9523130
I will set about finding those items post-haste.
...In the meantime, I have to deal with several irate bonesingers. Apparently he really did think there were bonesingers.
Morphed the dance-stage and everything.
Don't use anything too abrasive on your back for a couple of days.

Good-night, all.

>>9523021
>>9523044
>>9523130

>>9523172
Alright, goodnight. I'll see what I can gather up.
And finish up the rest of my body hair.

Good night!
>>9523181
OHHEYIGOTTAGOHAVEAGOODNIGHTBYE

so humans, when we do close the warp, what purpose does your emperor have?

>My face when all the chapters fight for the throne

>>9523230

We're the only ones left, and he's not my Emperor, so I dunno.