Hey, /tg/, you're not allowed to be as fast as /v/.

The inevitable Nintendo scythe may fall on this, but until then, awesome comes to 4Chan.

Because, you know, CS gas was never developed in the Pokémon universe.

>>9494883

No, it seems it wasn't.

>>9494832

Who would they send the C&D to, anyway? moot? 1d4chan? As long as Stark keeps his contact details secret, Nintendo literally can't do anything.

>>9494832
Now this is coming up here?

Look, if it isn't for profit, it does no harm. Has anyone shut down fanfic sites? Because that's what this stuff basically is, just in a very different form.

>>9495031

Laws differ on this.

Fanfiction falls under fair use, I think. But games are a different story.

Fanfiction is pretty much copyvio, but nobody cares most of the time.

>>9495047
How so? What's the big difference as long as you aren't selling it?

This has been looked into with other projects and everything's very clear. As long as Stark acknowledges copyright for images and characters, it's entirely legal.

>>9495002
And besides the point, Stark isn't trying to make cash outta' this, it's just a hobby thing.

All I know is that Chrono Compendium got shut down by Squaresoft when they were making a completely free sequel-hack.

>>9495116
I had thought that was because it's a hack--to use it, you'd have to have an illegal copy of the actual game, rom/iso or not. Even unhacked, those are illegal.

>>9495116
I believe they were trudging on their respective territory; Videogames.

>>9495142

Square actually packaged a Japanese SNES rom in the playstation version of Chrono Trigger, for whatever reason.

Or rather it was a file that essentially acted identical to a SNES rom.

So, ITT we daydream Pokemon Tabletop Adventures Campaigns?

>>9495256

Sure, why not?

Yeah, P:TA general.

Awesome.

So, anything you guys really want to try once beta is out?

I'm thinking about going as a classless trainer with the "Guys, Watch This!" feat.

Just be a fairly average trainer, playing with his pokemon, battlen, traden, trainan, the usual pokemon stuff. But always have 1 feat point that I don't use (or maybe 3 at higher levels)

Then, the first time my pokemon all faint... I spend a single feat point on the Martial Artist class (and 2 advanced classes if I am a high enough level at the time)

DURING THE MIDDLE OF THE FIGHT.

AND THEN I FUCK UP WHOEVER HAD THE BALLS TO HURT MY POKEMON.

>>9495363

I thought I was the only one to have this retardedly awesome idea.

Though only one Trainer action per turn. You'd have to pick up Multitasking and even then you'd only get Martial Artist and one subclass.

Still fucking awesome.

>>9495256
The year is 1941. A small group of soldiers are separated from their platoon behind enemy lines, left to wander the German countryside. With only their rifles, their army-issue pokemon, and the man watching their back, they have to find their way back to allied territory.

And if that means busting some nazi head, then so be it.

>>9495363
>>9495414
A trainer focusing on nothing but generic trainer feats would have no reason NOT to take Multitasking (And duel Wielding, for that matter)

>>9495414
Reread it. It can only be used when you would be able to use a trainer action (ie, on you turn during battle) but its a free action, you can gain the class and two advanced classes AND STILL BE ABLE TO ATTACK, all in a single turn.

So even when you gain the class you can leap into battle and start fighting without having to wait.

Also, since your pokemon all fainted, i'm pretty sure you would qualify for the Enduring Soul advanced class.

What would be a good choice for the 3rd advanced class?

>>9495424
In the other thread, we discussed that Hitler would have a smeargle. Also, Gym fights would be replaced by liberating camps and fighting the overseers of the camps and getting their dogtags.

Also, Vietnam was discussed. Guerrilla warfare with pokemon. How awesome is that?

>>9495466
Yep, which also means that when I become FILLED WITH THE RAGE OF A THOUSAND PRIMAPES I can beat the shit out of the enemy twice a turn.

>>9495539

Enduring Soul's an Advanced Class of Ace Trainer. You'd have to be Martial Artist/Ace Trainer/Enduring Soul if you went that route.

Also you only qualify if you yourself are knocked unconscious.

Here's an interesting tidbit. Special Ops Rangers/Martial Artists can get higher damage reduction than a Black Belt up until the Black Belt's Strength modifier is +13.

>>9495549
>>9495424
So, /tg/. What wild pokemon make sense for the German countryside.

And for that matter, what makes sense for the Nazis to use? (Houndoom and Honchkrow families are a given)

>>9495629
Ohh nice. Its not even finished yet, and people are already breaking the game open and going to town.

Explain, please.

>>9495630

Alakazam for officers, maybe Skuntanks. Dragonites...

>>9495630
Low level Rattatas with Quick attack and a Focus Sash. Since, you know, Nazi's are dicks.

>>9495629
FUCK. then what would work for PURE BERSERKER RAGE?
>>9495630
Gastly. Poisen gas and all.

As for the country side, I think they would be fairly 'normal' (real world wise) pokemon.

Growlith, Tuaros, Miltank, Volbeat, etc

>>9495663

A Special Ops Ranger can get up to Perfect Armor, which gives them a damage reduction of 25.

A Martial Artist/Black Belt can get Toughest Skin, which gives them damage reduction equal to their strength modifier tripled. This replaces the Martial Artist's Tough Skin, which gives damage reduction equal to one's strength modifier.

Stark said all damage reduction stacks.

Now, a Ranger/Spec. Ops/Martial Artist can get Perfect Armor and Tough Skin.

With a Strength of 16, this would give 25+3 damage reduction.

A Black Belt of equal strength with Toughest Skin would have 9 damage reduction.

The Ranger would stay ahead all the way until the Black Belt had a strength of 36, giving him a strength modifier of +13, and giving him 39 damage reduction. Perfect Armor/Tough Skin combo would give 25+13 = 39, as well.

From then on forwards, the black belt would have the advantage.

But, minoring in Martial Artist as a Spec. Ops means you'll never make Captain, which is more rangery and has some nice features of its own, including the ability to use HYPER BEAM as well as being an officer.

>>9495884

'scuse me. At +13 strength mod, the Ranger would have 38 damage reduction, edging under the Black Belt by one point.

>>9495766
Black Belt/Weapons Master.

However, if you playing as an "average joe" trainer, then it wouldn't make sense, since i doubt you would have a weapon on you. Unless the class works on improvised weapons.

If it doesn't, go with black belt/ninja, or black belt/ aura user (although that would also ruin your "average joe" concept)

Oh, and one more thing on the damage reduction issue - It's very unlikely a Ranger will have the Strength to keep up with a Black Belt anyhow. So this isn't as bad as it looks, really.

>>9495630
>Plants and animals are those generally common to middle Europe. Beeches, oaks, and other deciduous trees constitute one-third of the forests; conifers are increasing as a result of reforestation. Spruce and fir trees predominate in the upper mountains, while pine and larch are found in sandy soil. There are many species of ferns, flowers, fungi, and mosses. Fish abound in the rivers and the North Sea. Wild animals include deer, wild boar, mouflon, fox, badger, hare, and small numbers of beaver. Various migratory birds cross Germany in the spring and autumn.

So, Snovers in the winter, a lot of grass and tree pokemon, Lots of the more freshwater-type fish pokemon, Spoinks and Swinub (for boars), Stantler (for deer), Vulpix (fox), Lopunny (Hare), Probably most of the derps (beavers, badgers, etc.). "Migratory birds" would mean a lot of the derp birds. Rats too. Rats are everywhere so Marril, Pikachu, Pichu, etc.

Pokemon that probably WOULDN'T appear would be tropical ones (A lot of the fish, a lot of the birds. Chatot especially) Obviousely un-european stuff like Girafarig and Hippowdon would be right out except as zoo exibits or special boss-pokemon belonging to the nazis.

>>9495884
Except the whole point is that as soon as his pokemon dies, he jumps into the battle with the sole intention of killing whatever it was that just hurt his pokemon.

Damage reduction doesn't matter to me, Damage output does.

>>9496063

Wasn't talking to you, friend.

>>9496019
Rivers and lakes mean Magikarp, right? I'm sold.

I haven't read a damn post in this entire thread, but here's a gift I just found in [a/.

Enjoy your Zen Pokeism.

>>9496119
Bear with the comic.

>>9496130
It's only a bit confusing because there's no text.

>>9495630
That would be the guard pokemon. However I see most Nazis being issued fast pokemon. It fits the blitzkrieg type of warfare. French would of had defensive pokemon from the last war. Brits would have idk, but Americans once they enter would have mostly just the evee line as it allows mass production and speciality that the Americans had during WWII. I would also say psychics for communication something Americans excelled at. For the Russians I would have cheap and expendable pokemon like rattatas and raticates.

>>9496147
Those who have finished this before, let others meet this.

>>9496158
SUFFERING

THE HUMAN CONDITION

>>9496170
PI
KA
lern 2 kana, brosephs

>>9496188
2 moar to go.

>>9495931
Weapons master seems perfect if it allows improvised weapons. Grab the nearest log/rock and FUCK SHIT UP.
If not, aura user would give a GREAT "oh crap" moment. "We just pissed this guy off to the point that he is USING POKEMON ATTACKS!"

For some reason, I really don't like ninjas...

Of course, I could always stick with black belt and take Massage Therapist at the end of the battle. Finding a way to use the newfound strength to help the teams pokemon.

>>9496195
I do so love a simple, but evocative comic. Even more if it involves ancient childhood memories.

>>9496207
Last page.

And thus, the cycle continues.

Of course, how Pikachu called in to adopt a baby with only "PIKA PIKA PIKACHU CHUUUUU", I don't know.

>>9496224
Sauce is ancient:
http://www.nofna.com/

Also, (drawn) spiders present in later art.

>>9496204
I forget the specific crunch for weapons master. Is it only applied to melee weapons or do bows and arrows (or Guns, for the War campaign) apply?

This might be useful for the campaign if the "Martial artist" classes are refluffed with something essentially the same, but focusing on war tactics and fighting instead of just beating up everyone.

>>9496224
Oh my god that baby's face

It is "WUTCHU TALKIN' 'BOU', PIKACHU?"

>>9496082
My bad, someone (could have been you) reccomended it before that. So yeah...

>>9494350
Why are we using this as the OP pic?
It's awkward.

>>9496322
fag

>>9496322
Because thats what you do for these pokemon theads.

So... any other cool builds people want to try?

>>9496322
Gets attention and is on-topic.

>>9496263
Maybe call it "soldier" for war-style campaigns?

>>9496263

Weapons Master isn't really as well thought out as the rest of the classes. They automatically get the Master level Arms Feature for any weapon they want, but they get Slash as their second feature even if they choose bows or throwing weapons (the latter of which I'm sort of disappoint in anyhow, given Jugglers are supposed to use them but their damage is Int based, which martial artists get a penalty to... oy. Jugglers make up for it though with Weapon Rain so they can attack up to four times with Multitasking).

The rest of the class just gives you a few pokemon moves as features, which aren't that many.

>>9496433
...
Juggler/Black Belt FIST OF THE NORTH STAR it is.

>>9496433
I figured Weapons Master was just for those interested in the RP aspect. There's at least one of those for each Class, i.e. Chaser, Chef, Hex Master, Engineer, Petrologist, Photographer, Rider, Fashion Designer.

>>9495256
If we overlay some standard fantasy races over the PTA framework, it would probably make a pretty bitchin' campaign.

Humans are the catch-all, of course.
Elves commune with pokemon easily, making them excellent Rangers or Breeders.
Gnomes are great artifacers, making good capture specialists or Researchers.
Dwarves are build like brick shithouses, making good Martial Artists.
High Elves are good with the forces they only know as "Magic" making them good Psychics.

Any others?

>>9496385
From archives:
Uncle Capture Specialist catches a strong wild.
Mother Breeder breeds a thorough-bred Egg and hatches it with their bonuses. The Breeder will push good moves onto the pokemon as it grows up.
Father Ace Trainer takes over from there and raises the baby with their leveling bonuses to make it really powerful.
Big Brother Psychic, Martial Artist or Ranger are always at its side while its training in the wild, always intercepting hits for the team's prized pokemon to make sure it's always safe.
Eventually, you'll have a super strong pokemon who would die for any member of the team, though it won't because it's so goddamned powerful.
At this point, Grandpa Researcher and Grandma Coordinator will use the prized pokemon against the Elite Four and in Master Contests, since they have the most features they can use in tournament settings.

Do this with several pokemon.

Basically, the happiest family in the whole pokeworld.

I WOULD SO BE THE BREEDER IN THIS FAMILY.

>>9496557

It's not even as awesome as the rest of those in that respect, sadly.

>>9496532

Throwing Weapons only, mind you.

>>9496606

This bugs me. Why does the Researcher have "the most features in tournament battles"?

After looking and looking I only see options for things like commanding an ally's pokemon, which you can't do in an official battle.

>>9496557
Engineer can build vehicles. And weapons. And anything else they want.

Hex masters are able to inflict status conditions on both pokemon and humans.

Photagraphers get money for every picture they take. They liiterally generate cash from nothing.


Hardly there just for "RPing"

>>9496652
He can identify how much HP an enemy has, what level it is, what moves it has, and all that good stuff.

Very useful when fighting in a tourney.

>>9496693
Coordinator can grant abilities to their contest winners during official battles because of how Cool/Smart/Beautiful/Tough/Cute their pokemon are. Arguably just as useful.

>>9496693
Finding out what moves your enemy has is useful.

When your enemy is limited to 4 moves.

With a limit of 14, it's easy to guess.

>>9496633
... back to weapons master then.

>>9496693
>>9496766
Hence why Gramma Coordinator is listed on equal time with Grampa Researcher.

Wow. The last time I saw one of these threads, it was being trolled by haters. I loved this game since I first of heard of it a while back, and I come back to /tg/ after months of taking a break from 4chan as a whole and /tg/ has now accepted it into their hearts. Link to most current alpha material please.

>>9496811

http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Pokemon_Tabletop_Adventures

>>9496811
Welcome back.

Most current Alpha is on 1d4 chan

1d4chan.org/wiki/pokemon_tabletop_adventures

I'm currently hoping to get a chance to play my Iron Chef: Kanto idea.

Right now, though, I'm playing a character that's basically Steve Irwin.

>>9496019
>>9496095
What would be some Freshwater pokemon? A lot of them (especially the Hoenn ones) are going to probably be Pretty salty.

Magikarp is one, as are things like Maybe Psyduck (if we're going by Psyduck as a duck rather than as a platypus)

Of course, Germany has a border touching the ocean, doesn't it? That opens up the animal spread a bit.

>>9496914
So yeah, what's the trainer feat spread on that little idea?

>>9496925
Most pokemon can be both.

>>9496811
Everyone was trolling for 1 of 3 reasons:

1. They thought it was a thread about the games, and didn't realize it was a homebrew system
2. They thought it would end up like any other homebrew posted were it would either be dropped after a week, or be horrible unbalanced.
Or 3. They were trolls.

Its been around long enough for 1 and 2 to no longer be a problem.

3 is still pretty common.

>>9496936

Breeder, Chef, Martial Artist.

Specifically gunning for the Natural Food + (make food from anything) and Soul Food (make food that tastes so good, it makes you happy. No matter what.). Combine that with some Pokemon ("SCYTHER! MINCE!") and appropriately silly facial expressions, and you're good.

I love how a Ranger Captain can summon a fucking bus once a month to shuttle them to the next city and cast hyper beams with their little glo-whip.

Would you play this campaign?:

Pokemon + The wild west.
Characters are wandering duelists/settlers going from town to town exploring the pokewild west.
Pokemon box does not exist, but 6-man team is enforced, meaning players are encouraged to unload pokemon they know they aren't going to use, either by eating them for survival, or skinning them for supplies, or selling them to fur traders or chefs for cold hard cash. Capture specialists are thus the cashcows of the campaign.
Trainers gain levels by beating each town's best duelists in quickdraw battles, which can and WILL be deadly (As you are aiming for the trainer before he can call out his pokemon. If you're not careful you'll kill him, but if you're not careful he could kill you.)

Basically Red Dead Redemption with the guns replaced by pokemon.

>>9497047
I meant the Steve Irwin setup, but that's awesome too.

>>9497047
Hey! Axiom. Wasup?

Also, awesome build.

>>9497103

Lookit me, I'm a Dex whoring Capture specialist. I'm rich AND the fastest gun in town.

>>9497126

Ah. Well, it's just started, so right now, it's a Capture Specialist with unusually high STR, unusually low WIS, and a phobia of Mantines.

>>9497134

Hey, Halfwing. How's it going?

I want to try being a Type Ace for Bug Types.
Duel class that with Stat Ace Speed.
Get a Ninjask.

Nothing can hit me!

>>9497226

Ohai, my name is Machamp and THIS IS MY FIREPUNCH.

>>9496914
Avoid Mantine like the plague.

>>9497254
What's that? I can't hear you over the sound of my astronomical evasion score. (For every ten points of speed you get +1 to your evasion. Plus Speed boost gives me +1 speed stage per turn (An extra something like +25% to the Ninjask's speed score) and after a few turns he is literally unhittable unless you roll nothing but criticals.

>>9497194
Not much, just finised the Pokedex Entrys and sent them to Stark.

Also been thinking up cool builds I want to try.

Berserk Joe (the one in this thread, classless until his pokemon faint, then he gains 3 classes and kills whoever laid a finger on his pokemon)

And the Rune Master with the Unown Voltron I posted in the last thread. (M for the head, Y for the body, P for each shoulder/arm, E for each hand, I for legs, and L for feet.)

>>9497320

That's actually why he mentioned Machamp. Machamp's ability makes all moves unable to miss.

>>9497343
Oh right. Forgot.

>>9497320

>Machamp
>he thinks evasion matters

Bitches don't know about my No Guard.

I wish I had a Machamp Trollface picture.

>>9497226
>mother of god.jpg

Holy fuck... that... I think you just discovered FTL in the pokemon world...

Whoah.

Wait.

There's a Pokemon tabletop?

SOMEONE FILL ME THE FUCK IN.

>>9497343
Specialize in ranged attacks.

Then just do hit and runs, since machamp has to be next to you to hit, you don't have to worry.

No different then the wizard class in any other system.

>>9497404
1d4 chan.

Search for pokemon.

Scroll down.

Click link.

?????

Profit!!!!!

>>9497404

d20. Made by Dr. Mr. Stark.

Details and downloads at http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Pokemon_Tabletop_Adventures

Only Alpha version's out so far. Beta's mostly done, and should see release soonish.

>>9497430
Plus, Ninjask can move something like 30 spaces per round while Machamp can only move, like six. Also, above a certain speed threshold, all movement capabilities go up.

So unless Machamp has some ranged attacks (which I'm sure he does, as physical ranged attacks exist) Ninjask wins.

So I have a question.

If you take the feat The Chosen One, does that mean you can't take an advanced class?

Well, we could always give Machamp Fire Blast.

>>9497489

Though, if you're too much of a dick about it, your GM'll just do a "Exploding Gravellers fall, everyone dies"

Also, to max out evasion though Speed, you'd need a literally impossible number of stat points.

Assuming a base stat of 10 SPD (pretty high), putting all stat points until lvl 51 into SPD would only get you a grand total of 6 evasion. That's still a lot, but it's not game-breaking.

>>9497517
In 1st gen, it could learn fissure.

Those were good times.

>>9497505

No.

In fact, if I'm reading that right, it requires you to have two advanced classes to take it.

>>9497489
Only attacks a machamp would have that are ranged would be Aura Sphere (if he can even learn it) and even then, his weak Sp. Atk would render it useless.

The only thing you really have to worry about is fire punch, and if you stay out of range, it shouldn't be a problem.

>>9497547
Yeah, I figured it was either "Costs 2 classes" or "Must have 2 classes before you can take"

Just wasn't sure, that needs to be worded better.

>>9497621

Any feature that replaces another feature specifically says so. "This Feature Replaces Capture Point"

It should be phrased as "Requires two advanced classes," though - otherwise, someone might get confused and think that getting features of an advanced class would be enough.

>>9497533
Isn't that a ground attack? Ninjask is a flying type so its immune.
>>9497529
Hit and run with ranged attack would still work.

>>9497565

Rock Slide, bitch.

>>9497695
>>9497713

Fuck special attack or stab, enjoy your 20d10 damage, motherfucker.

>>9497662
See what I mean, its just very bad wording.

>>9497695

Yes, with some mild caveats.

By building like that, you'd have bugger all for attack and defense stats. This means you do no damage, and take a fuckton.

Also, you get only one Shift action per turn. This means you're limited to Ninjask's much weaker SATK stat and ranged movepool, since you can't risk getting close enough.

And, of course, wild Pokemon can just target the Trainer instead.

>>9497621
>>9497662
>>9497746

Just changed it.

>>9497713
Whats the range on that? If its to low then ninjask still won't have to worry about it and oh god I'm minmaxing somebody make it stop.

Hey, Axiom. Bringing up what I did in the OP - the rules for the Styler don't seem to exist yet. You know anything about that, or is that something that's gonna wait til the beta?

>>9497806

Doublechecking the rules, it seems that Ranged has no actual range. If the two pokemon are fighting, it seems it's assumed they're close enough for it to hit.

Also Rock Slide happens to use the attack stat instead of the special attack stat, as it has an asterisk.

>>9497529
According to the file I have, it's 16 base speed.

Add to that the fact that stat aces get two extra stat points in their chosen stat at levels divisible by 10, so assuming you take Speed Ace at level 20 or so, from 30 and on you get 6 extra points.
And then you get to add half of your STR mod (which is going to be pretty high for Aces) to each of your pokemon's base speed.
That's an easy extra +1 or 2 evasion at level 50 (On top of the +6 he'd normally have). Still not game breaking by any means, but ever so slightly better.

Now what IS game breaky is that Ninjask has Speed Boost on top of that. Every turn he survives he gets an extra combat stage to his speed, meaning every turn he gets that much harder to hit every turn. If it goes all six turns, you have (If I'm not mistaken) 200% of your max speed, THATS when you have something like +14 to evasion and you almost literally can't hit him with a roll lower than 16 for most moves, and 17 for a lot of the stronger ones.

>>9497816
I think it was posted in one of the archived threads wasn't it?

If you crit the Ninjask, its speed gets cut in half for a turn so that helps.

>>9496119
>This comic

>>9497774
>Implying I'm using Ninjask as anything but the best damn Swords Dance-Speed boost-baton passer ever.

YOU'RE A STAT ACE/BUG ACE? LOL

I'M A STAT ACE/ROCK ACE, AND MY MACHAMP IS ROCK ELEMENT. ENJOY ANOTHER 4D10 STAB DAMAGE.

>>9497816

At the moment, I think the released rules consist of the Friendship rules, as well as the associated Ranger features.

I'll make sure to get some clarification in Beta on how the Styler works, cause it's not clear. In fact, I'll whip off an e-mail to Stark and see what he's been doing.

My best guess is that it'd take three trainer actions (three loops), and you can't attack or do any hostile actions towards the Pokemon. Probably throw in an varying accuracy check based on how pissed off it is. Keep it low, though, since it takes multiple turns.

>>9497850
Combat Stage 6 is 250%.

But yeah, there ARE attacks that NEVER miss. Expect the DM to send a few of them your way.

>>9497932
How dare you counter my ridiculously specific build with another ridiculously specific build.

>>9497976
Oh, I do.

That's what my other five pokemon are for.

>>9497850

Yeah, that's good to know.

Honestly, though, there are so many always-hitting moves, and Pokemon have plenty of space to carry them. Combine that with the fact that its really more of an irritation (no damage, no defenses), and it's not something I'm too worried about.

Also am I the only one who wants to use the Normal Type ace to turn a Gengar into a clefable? Or otherwise bring ghosts "back to life"

>counter Ninjask with Machamp
>don't realize Ninjask is part-Flying

>>9498045

What's your point? With such a focus on speed, it'll have nowhere near the attack power to bring Machamp down in time.

>>9498045

>>realize that Machamp can take a STAB from something like a speed-demoned Ninjask and give it back with beyond interest.

>>9498036
>ghost/normal type
>Immune to both ghost type attacks and normal type attacks.
>Holy shit.

>>9498036

Interesting concept. Only that'd turn Mismagius into some sort of witch loli, and Spirittomb would be a misshapen blob of flesh.

>>9498045
Fire puch and rock slide are both physical super effective attacks.

>>9497879

A quick search of the archived threads didn't find it. I'll get a clarification.

>>9498091

Not this shit again.

The wording suggests it'd be just Normal. It doesn't magically become dual-type, that'd be stupid and overpowered.

rolled 20 = 20

WHAT'S THIS?
NO POKEGIRL PORN?
I AM SO ASHAMED, /tg/!

>>9498166
Ashamed for posting pokeporn, perhaps?

>>9498078
>>9498089
see
>>9497903
You all assume I'm not baton-passing all this speed over to my Stat-ace-speed-mojo Heracross so he can stick an Aerial Ace up the Machoke's ass. (Of course, Rock-type against an Aerial ace changes thing. Simplifies things really, because that means I can just use a STAB close Combat to do the same thing.)

It's not perfect, but its pretty damn close. How many pokemon learn No Guard?

>>9498091
I think that is the only type combo that is completely immune to itself...
How would fighting factor into that? I THINK it would do normal damage, but I'm not sure.
>>9498109
>Loli
PROBLEM ANON?
>spititomb
Enjoy your 108 spirits of pure evil given life and no longer bound to a rock fucking your shit up.

>>9498206

And you assume I'm not just going to Haze you as you come out because my Pusher ally is awesome.

>>9498245
Precedent: Ground/Water types are completely immune to Electricity even though Water is weak to electricity.
Therefore, Ghost/Normal is immune to fighting completely unless they use odor sleuth or that other move beforehand.

Also, To Gengar is already Duel-type idiots. Ghost/Poison. Replace Poison with Normal, receive Rape machine.

>>9498132
Gengar is Ghost/Poison. You sustitute poison for normal.

>>9498295
Like I said, not perfect but pretty damn close.

>>9498206

Seven turns to set up. You've got a pretty decent (>50%) chance of being hit at first, an extremely real chance of taking a Swift attack up the ass, and a GM that's pissed at you for trying to break his game.

Also, remember that Baton Pass only transfers Combat Stages - not the actual stats. Your Combat stages will be based off of Heracross's SPD stat instead, making this build entirely a moot point.

It's really less of a big deal than you think it is.

I read that the Pokemon's appearance changes when a type ace does his thing.
Type Ace (steel)
Jolteon
mix well
Mobile ball of razor wire

I know, no real mechanical effect, but it sounds awesome.

>>9498377

You can mix Steel with several Pokemon to make all sorts of awesome.

A Steel Snorlax is essentially a mecha fighter without a cockpit.

>>9498377
Steel tyranitar: Mecha godzilla
Normal/ghost gengar/clefable: zombie clefable
Dragon charizard: NO CHANGE

>>9498333
I am resisting my urge to troll in response to this because I respect this project too much to ruin the thread.

Oh, man, you're right.
...
My head is full of ideas now.

I'm imagining a Ranger Captain on top of the Dragonite Bus, as it's making a mad offroad dash after Team Buttfuck.

Fourteen Pokemon line the top of the bus with the Ranger. Seven Helpfuls, one companion, and six Captured. The Captain takes out his styler and in unison they point at the evil team's mecha.

Fifteen Hyper Beams go off in unison and become as one.

Oh man. Use Type Soul on Shedinja. Ghost/Normal type Shedinja = Immune to everything but Dark attacks.

Which doesn't help TOO much since Dark attacks are pretty much already Shedinja's worst nightmare. But still its nice to get rid of those silly Bug weaknesses.

>>9498503
You know... I knew this project was going to be awesome from day 1.

I just didn't realize it would be THIS awesome.

Also, the average party has 5 people, and a ranger campaign isn't to much of a stratch... 60 hyper beams... SO MANY HYPER BEAMS.

>60
derp, how do i does math?

75 hyperbeams.

>>9498573

Don't forget toxic, sandstorm, hail, and all of that.

In reality you wouldn't have enough actions to do 15 hyper beams at once. Maybe three or more depending on how companions and helpfuls work.

But that doesn't stop the awesome.

>>9498623
Three at max. One for each pokemon he can issue commands to (Assuming he has duel wielding, 2) and one from his Capture Styler.

Still awesome.

>>9498623 see
>>9498599
>3 hyper beams a person
>5 people
Sure is 15 hyper beams in here.

>>9498650

TAKE THIS, TRIPLE FINISH!

>>9498650
Oh, and helpfuls can't really be used for combat. Only party pokemon and your companion. The helpfuls can only be used for putting out forest fires and stuff.

>>9498664
Even better

Thanks for the heads up Axiom, how the Styler works is below. About your starting packages idea: I think it's cool, I like it. What I let my players start off with was a backpack and whatever they brought in it with them from home (within reason). I keep a very close eye on player inventory in game. I don't want poke marts in my players' backpacks.

Range Stylers have 10 Energy in them. Any Ranger can recharge that for free at Centers, Marts, Police/Ranger departments. When a Ranger makes a Restraint roll, they roll 1d100 and must roll under the pokemon's Capture Rate. When making a restraint roll, the target's capture rate is raised 25, because unless you're making that pokemon a Companion they'll only be with you for a short while anyway.

The 1d100 roll is used for nearly every roll in this game that involves adding a pokemon to your team except for the Psychic's mind control feature (Capture rolls, Restraint Rolls, Egg Rolls, Possession Rolls). So if you plan to make other ways of converting pokemon in this game, try to use the d100 roll to make it similar to the other rolls.

>>9498706
She has Too Many Pokemon

>>9498706

Awesome. Thanks.

>>9498706

10 Energy, and uses 1 per Restraint attempt unless one has features for that?

Gotcha, thanks.

After downloading all the material, one question strikes me: how does the Gm run a campaign with this? Something like D&D is easy since all the players instinctively know what they should do- kill monsters, save people, get loot, grow stronger, repeat. But I have no idea what direction to take with this game... anyone have any good ideas to motivate players/build a storyline?

>>9498706
Sup stark.

If you haven't checked steam yet, I'm done. Anything else you need taken care of?

>>9498706

Huzzah! You're here!

>>9498750
No she doesn't, rangers get 7 pokemon.

>>9498800
Well, the games themselves make for a good basic framework. Disregard females. collect pokemon. Earn Gym Badges. Fight off the team of the week. Beat the elite 4. Fight. Get XP for your pokemon. Build an asskicking team. Repeat.

There's still loot and people to save, and badguys to evicerate, but it's all done with a fine overlay of adorable cockfighting.

>>9498706

Thanks for popping by. That helps.

>>9498706
OH!

I was asking earlier, With the feat "The Chosen One" is that : "requires 2 advanced classes begore you can take this" or "Take this instead of 2 advanced classes"

>>9498808
I have seen it. Thank you, Halfwing.

>>9498800
How I've run my two, starting-from-the-professor's-lab campaigns:
Players start level 0.
Played 2-3 sessions with no goal in mind. Let Players choose where they wanted to go. They explored, caught pokemon, picked classes they wanted to shoot for, got a badge or two.
Next session: Hit em with world developments. They won't react immediately, they still want to catch pokemon and fight gyms. Let them, the world change won't effect them personally too much, and they are just starting off, what could they do to stop the world from turning?
Slowly integrate that problem's effects into their party. Add more side-effects of the event. Help players realize that something needs to be done.
Players will try to save the world, Gym battles and wild encounters a close second to their new primary goal.

I'll post some plots of campaigns I've run/plan to run in my next post.

>>9498932

Looking foreward to it!

You sound like a fun G

Oh. Most important part of campaign ending:

So, your players saved the world/city/whatever.
They put so much effort into this that they've neglected the Gym Challenge or whatever they originally wanted to do.
In game, the campaign should have been less then a few months.
Elite four members show up to the public ceremony, honoring the players' public service and say, "Hey, good job fellas. How'd you like to participate in this year's pokemon league championship?." "But Bruno, we don't have enough badges." "It's okay. You're in."
Time Skip
Next Session, place the players in different brackets for a 64 man championship. They'll need to put their skills against each other instead of with each other for (hopefully) the first time to see who wins it all. Winner gets a chance to battle the Elite Four to see if they are a Champion, or 'just' a tournament winner.

>>9498932

Awesome! But what kind of world-shaking events would pokemon trainers need to stop? Team Rocket taking over the world? Ancient evil pokemon gonna get released? Are there cults and stuff that worship the legendaries as gods?

Aaaaaand a few more questions.

1. Does the "Guys, Watch This" (or whatever it was called) let you gain classes in the middle of battle?

2. For the same feat, Can you gain more then 1 feat (or class) a turn?

3. Does the Weapon Master class work with Improvised weapons?

4. Can Rune Masters (or players in general) choose to have their Unown be 'backwards?' (like the bottem of an L facing left instead of right)

>>9499050
All of the above and more?

>>9499050

Worse.

Trainers have wisened up and are all using balanced teams instead of five magikarp or machop/mankey/geodude.

>>9498907
You need to have 2 Advanced Classes. Sorry for the poor wording. Thank you Axiom for editing my shoddy work. You're amazing.

Plots:
Players fight Gyms. Player make it to Cinnabar eventually. Blaine's place got broken in to. Shit got stolen. No one cares. Oh wait, it was important stuff let's investigate. Off to Sinnoh. They found Galactic. Galactic killed one of the players. Galactic's building radio towers nation-wide. Using Blaine's stolen stuff to do so. Galactic tries to piss off steel types with sound waves that make them all rampage, it lasts for a few weeks. Eventually Dialga comes out from its dimension because it's so pissed. Cyrus tries to catch it. Players stop Cyrus and kite Dialga until it loses interest and returns home. Cyrus tries to get Deoxys. Players stop him by allying Deoxys. World saved. Championship time.

Currently running this campaign:
Gym battling. Wild Capturing. Cheap ass poke balls from new company! Aqua in Kanto. Aqua kills Bill. Bill's heir dies. Pokemon Storage Company unowned. 40% of the population's pokemon are moved into the new cheap poke ball. Silph Co's president is murdered. Siplh Co's heir (a party member) is a target. Devon Stone is killed. Steven Stone (another party member) is a target. The cheap ass poke balls are missing 'submission' chips so the party is worried about what it will do for the nation's capture pokemon. There is a mad grab for power in the pokemon corporate world. Players find a lab where 10 assassin pokemon were forged for each big NPC in the world. They are trying to stop whatever Aqua's plan is right now. (More details as we play more sessions I guess.

>>9499153
So Battle Frontier teams in the single player game?

OH FFFFFFF-

>>9499180

Someone's playing Steven? How's that working out?

Second campaign sounds pretty awesome.

>>9499153
OH GOD WE MUST STOP THIS BEFORE IT SPREADS TO THE GYMS!

...

OH GOD! ITS ALREADY HIT VIRIDEAN CITY!

>>9499052
>1
Yes
>2
Yes
>3
Yes
>4
I don't see why not.

The next campaign I plan to run:
First session: The top 8 of this year's pokemon league championships. Players will be allowed to be up to level 20. Have several different pokemon. Be way powerful.
After a winner is declared, and they get to fight the elite four their battle will be interrupted. A war will be announced by two legendary pokemon on TV and players will have to pick a side. The 8 players will split up and pick sides into two groups (I'm co-GMing this campaign with another GM) and the players will ahve to collect certain items for their legendarys since the legends are keeping each other at bay. Cults will form. People will work against both parties. The parties will work against each other. Time will be a huge factor. In game, only 2 weeks will pass before D-day. D-day will be the final session where they show up to the destined place for the all out war.

>>9499219
I came in late in the campaign, so he had be play as an important NPC so he wouldn't have to use a DMPC.

Shit is pretty cash, if only because Steve is SUPER powerful (Like, ten or fifteen levels above the rest of the party, and started out packaged with a level 85 Metagross) But I feel like I should probably pull my punches more often than I probably do.

>>9499264
Cool

>>9499264
>1, 2, and 3: Yes
BERSERKER JOE LIVES!
>4: yes
VOLTRON UNOWN LIVES!
>Campaign
...
Need any players?

>>9499219
Originally, Steven was going to be a GMPC that I was going to kill off for plot reasons and because I hate playing when I'm GMing. Someone from /tg/ wanted to join my group. He took Steven and Steven is now still alive. For now. Steven's pokemon assassin is a powerful, genetically modified Blaziken. Perfect for defeating a Steel Master. He's playing Steven well and being a powerful asset to the team but is just as useful as other members in the party. The only thing he has that makes him REALLY useful to the party is his bank account.

>>9499269
Also, I never played R/S/E and didn't read the Manga or Anime episodes with him in it until AFTER I started playing PTA, so I was making shit up about his personality for the entire first session.

Fun times.

>>9499324
Oh. And the Silph Co heir's pokemon assassin is now the player's Companion. It took some time to convert him but it worked. 2 Assassins converted, 1 defeated, 7: Location Unknown. Then they'll get to meet the boss.

>>9499269
>>9499324
>>9499356

Excellent. Sounds like you guys have had a lot of fun.

So when is Game Freak gonna make Kangaskid and Kangasbull?
Or Hitmonjaa?
Or a fun fire/water or grass/fire?
Or some evolutions for pokemon who are so easily forgotten?
Or a female professor?
Professor Banyan, or Maple or Willow like I've seen in the last thread?

Anybody else have specific hopes for gen 5? pic related

>>9499472
A pokemon based on Hot Chili peppers. Grass/Fire. Natch.

Also, I am ashamed to say that If I were GMing PTA I would probably ask my players if I could include some original fakemon do not steal for them to use alongside the official 400+.

>>9499472
>Hitmonjaa
Oh god yes, do want

And for 5th Gen? Steel Eevee, Ghost Eevee. More uncommon type-combos. A useful Grass starter. And a goddamn Dark-type Gym.

>>9499472

For Ditto to be useful outside of breeding.

>>9499516
It's really easy to give base stats to a pokemon, give it a move list, some capabilities and make it play in P:TA. Really easy. One of the Assassins in the campaign I'm running, is Zoroark.

>>9499472
>Kangaskid/Kangasbull
>Not another pun on a famous conquerer + A kangaroo

Joeypoleon FTW

A Fire/Ice worm creature with Thick Fat that lives around snow covered volcanoes. Evolves into either a Fire/Dragon, Ice/Dragon or a fuckhuge version of its Fire/Ice form depending on it's moveset.

>>9499472
Evolution for Farfetch'd

Make it Knight themed instead of Samurai themed.

Piss off all the weeaboos.

>>9499472
>Hitmonjaa
>Jaa
>Who the fuck is...? OH SHIT TONY JAA
Yes please.

>>9499472
She looks so hipster and not 10 years old.

>>9499472
(pure) Flying, fighting, and rock starters

Shared pre-evolution for volbeat and illumines(sp?) As well as a seperate Elec/Bug evo for each.

Shared pre-evo for miltank and tauros.

Centaur miltank evo.
Minotaur tauros evo.

Alternate evolution for dragonair THAT ACTUALLY FUCKING LOOKS LIKE THEM AND NOT A RETARDED ORANGE YOSHI!

Something to make unown decent. Not even great, just more then a gimmick.

More Feebas style fish. One for each contest stat. I want my Gyrados/Milotic/Cool Dragon/Cute Dragon/ Smart Dragon/Tough Dragon team.

End-game content for contests. Also abilities that have an effect in contests.

>>9499651
A cowtaur Miltank would still have udders. This would be horrifying, and fuel the fetishes of many people.

>>9499651
I too would like to see more contest content.
I want to be Ruby from the manga.
I want to get all the girls with my beauty.
I want to be the very best.

No more legendaries, I still think most the legendaries aren't legendaries and don't exist.

An evolution for Shuckle.

>>9499716
Ruby is fucking awesome in the manga.

Shit tier: Emerald
Normal Tier: Pearl, Diamond, Yellow
Good Tier: Platina, Blue, Silver
God Tier: Sapphire, Green, Red, Gold, Crystal
Most Beautiful Tier: Ruby

Knowing trends, they'd put in a Hitmonchuck before a Hitmonjaa.

>>9499606
>>9499472
Needs moar Hitmonsegal.
Or Hitvandamm

...

But seriousely, a real Hitmon evo:
Hitmonchiba
HUGE eyebrows.

>>9499764
I think you mean Hitmonnorris. Oops, more then 10 letters. Hitmonchuck? Nope, still more then 10 letters.
Hitmonjaa it is.

>>9499786

Hitmonchuk

>>9499786
Hitmonoris. 10 letters. Bitch.

>>9499806
>>9499786
That reminds me

Raise the character limit by, like, two characters and follow proper capitalization.

We all know its supposed to be Feraligator, not FERALIGATR

So DM Stark. Any advice for further homebrewers interested in creating their own Abilities/Capabilities/moves for their fakemon to use?

>>9499516
I will be doing this if my players want some original stuff. I have sprites for about 50 pokemon that I would like to see. Including the Flying/fighting/rock starters i mentioned. And only 2 of them are legendary, and one of those is really just a new deoxys forme.
>>9499823
The new dragonair evo?

Dragonstorm

Also, if anyone has the comic of a guy imagining what his dragonair will look like, THATS what I want it to look like.

>>9499974
And BTW Pic potentially related to a super Sentai themed pokemon.

>>9499974
I think it'd be easier to homebrew after I see the Beta. I plan to try and make a few classes, even though Stark has hit almost every base in terms of trainer types, but I'd like to make a 'magic' class. Stark don't care about other people's homebrew material. He's said that much in previous thread. Go for it, and if it's good the community will use it. Isn't that what this whole project is about?

>>9499522
>eeveelutions
NOT THIS SHIT AGAIN. How about something new? A seperate pokemon that, instead of evolving into the Special type, evolves into Physical types.
>>9499548
One of the Fakemon i mentioned is a poison type ditto. It can learn poison type moves, and can actually fight, but is still able to transform. However, it keeps the poison type, and isn't an exact copy.

>>9500120
The class you're making is called the Mystic, and Stark already did it. Sorry bro.

>>9500160
Mystic is about posessing pokemon/borrowing pokemon's power to use on your own.

I think he's talking about more traditional vancian magic, magic missile, cone of cold, etc.

>>9500160
See
>>9500187

>>9498750
> all 493 pokemon

there are 493 pokemon?
I detect faggortry

>>9499974
Playtest. See what works see what doesn't I can't offer any better advice since I'm not a professional. I just love games.

>>9499976
pic related

>>9500121
Awesome.

Can you post them?

>>9500230
Very much.

>>9500187
Wouldn't that just end up being the same thing? What sort of magic could you get that couldn't be replicated by using a pokemons power?

>>9500230
Where have you been since 2007?

>>9500250
I don't know.

Personally I would just refluff psychics and call it magic, but he might have something in mind.

>>9500241
Thats the one.

>>9500243
I would but I am posting from my DSi. But when I get the chance, I'll post them.

>>9500253
Playing the original 150, the only ones that exist as far as I'm concerned.

>>9500343
Once again, I'm resisting the urge to troll in the interest of not ruining the thread.

This whole project is like a childhood dream coming true. I really hope that some one in my area is willing to play.

>>9500343
>he pretends that ignoring fact will change it

>>9500408
I don't pretend that it will change it. I simply know that, with each new pokemon, the faggotry grows greater.

>>9500420
>Implying that there were no huge faggots in gen 1
>Dugtrio, three Digletts.
>Electrode, and upside down Voltorb
>Magneton, three Magnemites

ANYway, How would a High Fantasy Pokemon campaign go? Hoards of Orcs and goblins mounting growlithes, and attacking with Skarmories.

Which reminds me, how much XP does a pokemon get from defeating a trainer?

>>9500378
Don't worry, I'll take care of it.
>>9500343
Really? I guess you enjoy having horible balance, bad graphics, and shitty mechanics. There is litterally nothing good about them other then being nastolgic.

You can't even argue that those where the only games they planned. The original intention was for them to get out Red and green so that they could make Gold and Silver (which were planned from the beginning, this becomes even more obvious when ho-oh shows up in the FIRST FUCKING EPISODE)

I can understand not liking gen 3 and beyond. They changed a lot, and you couln't keep your old team.

However, Gen 2 has better graphics, Identical gameplay mechanics, AND fixes the balance issues of gen 1. You can even keep your old team.

There is LITERALLY no reason to only like gen 1, unless you are an elitest douchebag.


And with that, feeding time is over.

>>9500512
Or, for that matter, a non-pokemon monster, like a orc, who might have trainer levels.

>>9500534
This just fuddles the issue of what is a pokemon and what isn't. If Kobolds exist in the same system as Pokemon, what's to stop you throwing a pokeball and catching a Kobold?

Hm

>>9500512
If I were to do a fantasy Pokemon I would not include fantasy races like Orcs.

Pokemon share DNA - they are a single race.

Pokemon are identified by any Pokedex. Fantasy races are not.

>>9500604
Only things with souls can be caught in a poke ball?

Yep. I just did that. Kobolds have souls and pokemon don't.

>>9500522
This, anyone who didn't like gen 2 should be shot in the fucking mouth.

>>9500640
Meant to say, only things without souls can be caught.

>>9500645
My mouth is gone.
But seriously, I like every gen. Second is just my least favorite. But I still like it a lot.

>>9500640
That's an elegent way to do it I guess.

It comes under contention when you consider that God (Arceus) is a pokemon. Do Gods have no souls?

Methinks I'm going to use this system to run a game of POKEMORPHS.

Anyone remember that terribad fanfiction waaaay back in the day? Pokemon + Animorphs, race of Mews who developed a Ditto Device to enable anyone to learn Transform, and it just so happens a bunch of human kids are tasked by them to save the world after a Team Rocket-controlled Mewtwo fatally injures them.

This seems like the perfect system to rebirth the concept.

>>9500690
I was going to suggest for a Fantasy setting a new class to deal with the presence of Gods, when I realized that the Advanced classes for Mystic (and Researcher's Cryptozoologist class) essentially do that already.

Now all I can suggest is a Ranger or Martial Artist class that draws additional divine power from God pokemon. Poke-paladins.

>>9500722
Wow. /tg/ just keep coming up with more fun campaign ideas. For a system that isn't even completed!

>>9500722
W-why would you do that?

>>9500745
So pretty much a Martial class with some Godspeaker/that other one-like feats, possibly related to capturing with the Styler?

If it's a Ranger offshoot, maybe one of its class features should be gaining the ability to use Helpful pokemon in battle for a few turns before they run away. That + the Ranger feature that lets you command pokemon without needing to capture them would be pretty useful to the party.

Also, Smite Evil (Or Smite Good, In the interest of equal time to Lawful-evil Giratina worshipping or Chaotic Evil Darkrai-worshipping Paladin)

>>9500758

Because I thought the concept was rather keen.

>>9500826
I'm sorry, I just have bad memories.

I'm intersted in doing a Ranger-only campaign (Other classes are allowed, but everyone has to roll a Ranger as their first class) and have a big murder mystery or crime syndicate bust.

>>9500855

Bad memories? Of what? The particular fanfiction series in question, or of Animorphs itself?

Everyone had bad memories of Animorphs after what Applegate did to the ending.

>>9500855
Poke-night watch.

Combine the Ranger Procedural with the Fantasy Campaign. Include Paladin Advanced Class.

Win GMing forever.

>>9500890
You mean when she jumped ship and let ghost writers take over the last 20 or so books, then she showed up again just to fucking cliffhanger the ending? Yeah. Pretty rough times.

I think a campaign where the party plays as Rockets or whatever might be kind of cool. It'd be like the pokemon equivalent of an evil campaign (except more like a mildly disgruntled campaign).

We've been over this. To make up for the lost time, Farfetch'd should have a split evolution like Tyrogue.

Attack>Defense: Flying/Fighting Bushiduck
Defense>Attack: Flying/Steel Sirduck
Attack=Defense: Flying/Ground Talltale (cowboy duck)

>>9500890
God that ending pissed me off.

I LOVED animorphs... but that ending...

>>9500926
THAT'S a class that needs exploring. Thief classes based around stealing and brainwashing other people's pokemon. the yin to the Ranger's Yang.

It would need some strict rules for NOT stealing a party member's pokemon, but It seems like a workable concept for a Trainer class.

If anyone's curious, I could post my pseudo-post-apocalypse real world pokemon setting.

>>9500928
I like the name Absir'd for the Knight themed one.

Also, Gullib'l. I like sticking to the nameing theme set up in Farfetch'd's first form.

This topic was a great success.

>>9500991
Do it to it

>>9501001
That makes perfect sense, actually.

Think there's a better type for Tall'tale? Though I like how they both conveniently fill type spots that there was only one of, and their occupiers are/were version exclusives.

Also, Spinda evo. Should it get even dizzier or straighten itself out?

>>9501033 Alright. Here we go. I'll start with World History.

World History
It is theorized that the Tunguska event was Mew hurtling to Earth. This is theorized by mapping the spread of the Pokerus combined with reported Mew sightings. At first humanity is unsure of the mutating flora and fauna that is spreading around the world, especially since some humans mutate as well. When an animal, whether human or otherwise, begins mutating because of the Pokerus they slowly start to lose their memories and speech capacity. When the process is complete, they remember nothing of their previous lives except for fleeting dreamlike impressions. On animals and plants, it twists them into pokemon similar to the animal they once were. Humans have some small resistance to this, but not much. As Mew spread around the world, so the Pokerus spread.

Children have to get inoculated against pokerus, those that don't are susceptible to becoming pokemon. So poor areas, such as Africa, have it running rampant. Pokerus is transmitted via saliva and feces of infected people and pokemon.

>>9500970
Snagger class! Would it be a whole new basic Class or maybe an Advanced class for Ranger (Kind of a "Fallen" Ranger)

>>9501081

It isn't until the 1920s, when a vaccine to the Pokerus is developed, that Pokemon become part of society, beginning with the end of WW1 when the first regiments of Pokemon trainers appear. When WW2 began Pokemon were there from the start, with the German Blitzkrieg being revolutionary for its use of Pokemon.

However, WW2 was the end of large nations. The resources expended by the nations during the war left them unable to cope with the issues at home created by pokemon. Nation after nation fell apart, becoming city-states. Transnational corporations such as PokeCentre, and Police Corp began to rise and became one of the few constants in the world.

In 1964 the Elite Four arose in Osaka Japan as a group of Trainers who aimed to restore order to the world. They set up a competition system where trainers have to travel between cities to challenge the city's gym leader. This was done to encourage travel, and economic growth. The Elite Four are now an organization of 4 representatives from each continent who work together to keep civilization alive. The League Champions, who have been able to beat the Elite Four of their continent, are the enforcers of the Elite Four, though the Elite Four also has a veritable army of trainers and bureaucrats to support their cause.

>>9501101

Pokemon training and handling was revolutionized in 1964 when Kurt Mauser designed the first pokeball made from an apricorn in Germany. Apricorns were strangely wide spread plants that had been altered by the Pokerus but had not become Pokemon. This connection to the Pokerus is what allows the pokeballs to capture pokemon but not normal flora and fauna. This invention made catching Pokemon easy enough that almost anyone could do it, expanding the population of professional trainers greatly. Additionally the ability to store Pokemon indefinitely in an object the size of a baseball meant that almost anyone could own a Pokemon without having to worry about upkeep costs, so long as they could afford a Pokeball. However, Pokeballs were expensive as they had to be hand crafted. This meant that only the wealthy were able to purchase them, leaving the less fortunate to deal with the issues of feeding their Pokemon.

In 1978, with improved manufacturing means, the Poke Mart company created the first mass produced Pokeball. The mass production of pokeballs made PokeMart a rising company, and it was quickly subsumed by the PokeCentre Corporation. The decreased cost of the mass produced pokeballs (though they were still fairly expensive) created a second expansion of the popularity of Pokemon. The most recent revolution in Pokemon came from Bill Gates when he developed the PC Storage system in 1997. This allowed for Pokemon to be transported between locations over the internet while inside pokeballs. Unfortunately, due to the City State nature of the world, infrastructure quality is at an all time low, including the internet.

>>9501099

I'm thinking some sort of Team Lackey or Team Grunt could be a class, with advanced classes like Snagger, Con Artist, Executive, or... I dunno.

>>9501131 Moving on to the Pokemon League

Pokemon League
Everything is City-States, with Cities competing for the right to have a Pokemon Gym because they bring economic stimulus. A Gym Leader must come from the town in which their gym is located. A gym can switch locations if the Elite Four give a challenger city permission to send their champion to face another city's gym leader. Gym leaders have a wide range of pokemon, and save their best for Champions.

When a trainer encounters another trainer either is free to challenge the other to a battle. The trainer who is challenged gets to decide if there is a wager on the match, and what the wager is. Wagers can range from a friendly bet, to money, to equipment. Some trainers choose to make the wager the ownership of a pokemon, but this is discouraged by the Elite Four and can be refused without consequence.

Despite the fact that the Elite Four enforce the wagers whenever possible, many trainers who lose matches in the wild often become desperate over their loss, resorting to violence against their opponent. If that happens, the attacker is now a criminal and any injuries that follow are considered self-defence, or assault. The attacker can then be formally charged and imprisoned. However, such unregulated battles often result in fatalities in the wilderness.

>>9501137
You are overcomplicating things.
All classes can be played as bad guys. Refluff them if you msut.

>>9501046
Split evo. At level X it evolves into a pokemon with very balanced stats, that is decent all around, but not great at anything.

If at level X it knows at least 1 move that causes confusion, it gets dizzier, gains the ability that increases the chance of secondary effects, and works by taking the annoyance of confusion up to eleven, knowing attract, a few different confusion moves, a paralasis move, and stomp. but its stats are all over the place, making its difficult to actually train.

>>9501146

Armour and weapons that have no connection to a pokemon are not permitted in normal battles (for example, a cubone's helmet and club are allowed, but a machop with a sword is not). This is not a common issue in sanctioned battles, as outside items will not enter a pokeball with a pokemon. However, some trainers who do not use pokeballs provide their pokemon with armour and occasionally weapons.

Gym battles take the form of a one on one battle. The challenger and the Gym Leader each choose their single best pokemon and then battle with only those. This is to prevent a Gym Leader from succeeding simply through attrition.

>>9501172

North American Gyms: Mexico City, New York, Chicago, Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver, Phoenix, and Orlando. Los Angeles had one until a pokerus outbreak made the city unsafe, and the gym was moved to Montreal.
North American League Headquarters: New York

South American Gyms: Guatemala, La Habana, Ciudad De Panama, Tegucigalpa, Buenos Aires, Rio De Janeiro, Lima, and Bogota
South American League Headquarters: Buenos Aires

European Gyms: London, Paris, Madrid, Berlin, Rome, Moscow, Stockholm, and Vienna
European League Headquarters: London

Asian Gyms: Tokyo, Mumbai, Seoul, Jakarta, Karachi, Beijing, Tehran, Istanbul
Asian League Headquarters: Tokyo

Oceanian Gyms: Sydney, Auckland, Melbourne, Brisbane, Perth, Adelaide, Port Moresby, Suva
Oceanian League Headquarters: Sydney

African Gyms: Lagos, Cairo, Casablanca, Cape Town, Nairobi, Kinshasa, Dakar, Abidjan
African League Headquarters: Cairo

Global League Headquarters: Osaka

>>9501185 Now for organizations.

Global Organizations
Poke Centre: The PokeCentre Company was the first transnational to appear in the wake of the collapse of governments. The Company has franchise locations all over the world that charge a small fee for the use of their facilities, including Pokemon registration, trading, Storage PC access (when available), and of course medical treatment for Pokemon. The company also owns the PokeMart chain which, while not as common as PokeCentres, offer many useful, though often expensive, items and equipment for trainers.

Police: The Police Corporation is a private security force that many cities employ to protect them from encroaching threats, both pokemon and human in nature. Cities that are too small to hire the Police Corp for protection often have Pokemon Rangers who form a volunteer police force.

Elite Four: The Elite Four is a global organization dedicated to preserving civilization. They do this by encouraging travel between towns through the Pokemon League. They set the rules and decide any disputes for the league.

One of the things I find interesting - technically speaking, there aren't always 8 gyms in a region [though there are usually 8 badge-bearing gyms]. See Saffron City's fighting gym, for example. The only restriction is that you must have AT LEAST 8 badges from a given region to enter its league, so each region COULD theoretically have more than 8 gyms.

>>9501185
>Oceania
>Didn't include anywhere in the Pacific Ocean.
Try Rapa Nui. Honolulu. Fiji. Samoa. Would make for epic oversea adventures.

>>9501196

Rocket Gang: The Rocket Gang is an organized crime group originating from somewhere in the former United States. They commit crimes such as arms, pokemon, and drug dealing to increase their wealth, though they often have a hand in most organized crime in North America, and there are rumours that they may be spreading globally.

Team Magma: Team Magma is a cult that believes that humanity's problems stem from the oceans and that if there was more land humanity would return to its once prosperous form. They seek out legendary pokemon and advanced technologies to further their goals, which are at odds with Team Aqua's.

Team Aqua: Team Aqua is a cult that believes that humanity is a plague on the land and needs to be washed from the world in a biblical flood. They search for legendary pokemon to remake the world into something cleaner. Since their goals are the opposite of Team Magma's the two cults often come into conflict, creating fatal battles.

Galactic: Galactic Corporation believes that humanity's future on the Earth is limited, and so they must expand into the stars. While not overtly sinister in nature, Galactic will stop at nothing to advance their goals.

>>9501217
I pretty much tried to stick to the area around Australia obviously. Of course there's no reason you can't change it in your game.

>>9501218 Occupation Ideas now.

Occupation Ideas
Pokeball Smith: A smith is a person who knows how to make pokeballs out of apricorns, as well as repair, and modify standard pokeballs.

Pokemon Breeder: A breeder raises pokemon often from when they hatch for the purpose of breeding them to make baby pokemon. They know how to take especially good care of their pokemon which helps to make the pokemon more loyal.

Pokemon Ranger: Rangers defend Pokemon from people, and people from Pokemon. In towns too small to afford the services of Police Corp. volunteer Rangers protect the citizens from pokemon, and from criminals.

Specialist: A specialist focuses on a certain type of pokemon, learning all they can about that one type. Often they mimic their preferred type in some fashion so as to better understand their pokemon.

>>9501252

Coordinator: Coordinators collect pokemon not for battle, but for performance contests. To enter contests often a certain etiquette must be followed, lending the Coordinator to being a skilled diplomat.

Researcher: Researchers are interested in pokemon for the sake of knowledge. They learn everything and anything about all pokemon. While Researchers may not have as good battle skills as Specialists, they often know far more.

Bandit: A world of nation states leaves a lot of land unclaimed, and a lot of roads unsafe. Criminals regularly prey on travelers, using whatever weapons they have, whether it be gun, club, or Pokemon. Bandits are often skilled in a combination of stealth and brutal combat.

>>9501170
The ability you're thinking of is Serene Grace.

With that in mind, I like the name "Zenda". Maybe give it a black/white split spot pattern too?

The "even" one should be... Blanda. I dunno. Though keep in mind, Zenda's stats being imbalanced could actually make it a better poke than Blanda because hyper-specialization is a very good thing currently. Who knows, gen 5's metagame may throw that out the window.

What other pokes need help. Third stage for Marowak, Exeggutor, Dugtrio and Electrode, maybe? What would be this gen's useless bug type line and moderately useful normal type two-stage? Its fossils? It seems pretty hard to compete with Bidoof.

>>9501272
Bandit replacing MA?

>>9501272

Exterminator: In a world with insects and mice that can easily maul a person, the formerly simple job of being an exterminator now belongs to a grizzled few veterans. Though Rangers may try to provide this service, there's no one as good at it as an exterminator.

Psychic: Sometimes the Pokerus has strange effects even on inoculated people. Psychics are the most common form of this. Most psychics have a low level telepathy that they can use to communicate with their Pokemon, but there are some that can read human minds, and a few who can simulate some Psychic Pokemon attacks.


That's all. I originally ran this using BESM3e. I can post the BESM3e mechanics stuff if anyone is interested.

>>9501158
However, Snagger is a class that doesn't have an analogue in the current ruleset.

I think it makes more sense as an advanced class for Capture specialist, and it seems a little too powerful to be an early-game class. Seriously, stealing shit from other trainers, that's pretty hardcore.

>>9501275
We have not seen an earthworm bug type. Nor have we seen more spiders since spinarak. I don't want to see an evo for Electrode or Dugtrio.
For fossils:
Where is the T-Rex, the Triceratops, the Stegosaurus, the Ankylosaurus?
Just thought of a solution for Triceratops: Kecleon evo to look like a jackson chameleon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackson%27s_Chameleon

>>9501295

The system I used was BESM3e which is classless, so all of these occupations are entirely fluff to suggest ideas to players.

The party wound up being a chef that wanted to make the perfect meal (out of pokemon of course) with the help of his cyndiquil, a researcher who wanted to make the first pokedex (had an abra), a deaf mute drifter psychic with a jigglypuff, and a misanthropic old man with a ghastly.

>>9501185
North American Gyms not including Dallas/Ft. Worth or Houston? What's wrong with you?

>>9501346
Originally, the Snagger WAS an advanced class for the Capture Specialist.
It was thrown out entirely because stealing you party member's hard earned pokemon or even their prized pokemon they love so much is... Terrible.
I don't think I'll ever finish a class like that myself, but I'm sure a clever fellow in /tg/ could figure out a way to make a Snagger without making them unfunny for party members.

>>9501372
Triceratops sounds perfect. Since land life wasn't the only one, though, what about something like a smilodon for variety? Ground/Bug earthworm would be interesting, as would Dragon/Bug changing "worm" to "'wyrm".

Also, ghost types. There aren't enough ghost types. Water/Ghost pirate ship. Steel/Ghost...something to do with rust, or haunted armor. Rock/Ghost gravestones. Grass/Ghost as a dead tree or jack-o-lantern. Psychic/Ghost mass of ectoplasm.

>>9501419
Right. Stealing from party members has been a problem since Rogues in AD&D.

>>9501446
Derp, since dinosaurs weren't the only ones done.

>>9501419
Well, You could provide some fluff reason for people on the same party to be unable to steal each other's pokemon. That would diffuse a lot of the tension around the class.

>>9501479

When has fluff ever stopped asshats? Especially power gaming asshats.

>>9501372
T-Rex been done, bro.

>>9501446
>pirate ship
You...remember these things are based on animals, right?

>>9501537
Rampardos is a Pachycephalosaurus.

>>9501537
I'm not sure if you are serious.
Rampardos is a Pachycephalosaurus. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pachycephalosaurus
TRex will have rows of teeth.

>>9501543
Not necessarily. Do Drifblim and Rotom look like animals to you? That's the idea I'm running with here, haunted objects.

>>9501543
Castform.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teru_teru_bozu
Magnemite.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnets

>>9501544
>>9501551
Damn. 'pologies for my inability to differentiate dinosaurs.

>>9501218
Somehow, this is the first time I have realised that Magma and Aqua were just a thinly disguised Crips vs Bloods refference.
>>9501419
I'LL TAKE THE CASE!

>>9501572
No problem. Them dinosaurs come in all sorts of shapes and we're not as exactly familiar with them as were are with say... a pigeon or a rat; something we do see everyday.

>>9501533
When you back that fluff up by stating plainly "You cannot snag a pokemon owned by a party member and/or any trainer controlled by a player." State in the rules for the GM to point at while saying "I don't know what to tell you, sorry, out of my hands."

It probably won't stop asshats, but it's the best defense. Get the Rules lawyers on your side and you'll outnumber the douches.

>>9501582
Actually, Aqua vs Magma is Pirates vs Ninjas. Check out their bandanas/sailor shirts on Aqua and the cloaks/baggy gi pants on Magma.

>>9501606
Well...it's illegal. And you just stole someone's Pokemon. They aren't likely to be very happy with you. Neither is their Pokemon, for that matter.

>>9501582
You do Snaggers, I'll do Poke-Paladins.

(I'll probably wait until after Mystic is released to see if I can mine the legendary-derived classes for any inspiration for a legendary pokemon-themed Divine-powered Ranger offshoot)

>>9501572
No, no problem.

Let's see, more ideas just to throw them out. Unusual type combinations seem to be a good start. Steel/Dark? Fire/Poison? A Fighting legendary, because there should be one?

>>9501643
Then what's the good of a Snagger at all?
Probly why it got scrapped. If you take away why one snags, then why snag?

>>9501662
Water/Dark, Fire/Psychic, Grass/Fighting. As starter finals, but honestly, I just want a boxing dinosaur that punches solarbeams.

>>9501625
>The crips are pirates and the bloods are ninjas.

Suddenly the gang war makes sense!

>>9501662
>Fighting legendary.
>Remembers earlier post.
>>9499998
>>9499974
OH GOD YES MAKE IT HAPPEN

>>9501643
Well, there can be good snaggers I suppose. If you fight an evil team, you can pretty much be assured that their pokemon are probably being abused. If you only steal evil people's pokemon you won't have too many problems with the law.

Now a Chaotic stupid Snagger could probably fuck up a party's reputation pretty hard.

>>9501727
How about this: MAJOR LEAGUE penalties on loyalty, stats, attack choice, etc. if they try to use the snagged PKMN without taking the time to work with them.

>>9501707
Sentai, the Legendary Trio of gen 5.
Fighting/Grass, Fighting/Fire, Fighting/Water.
Make them humanoid, similar to gallade, alakazam, magmotar or electivire.

I was the guy that posted the post apoc pokemon setting and I was wondering if anyone had any comments about it (other than complaining about gym locations, as everyone will have a complaint).

>>9501661
>brofist
Guess I'll be starting it after beta, and your waiting for omega?

Hell I'll probably be making my own fakedex, completely stated out, as well as other new feats/classes.

>>9501762
Players will bitch for ages after their 'i gave him a cracker we should be friends now' doesn't work right away. Seems like a headache for the DM.

>>9501691
Breloom fits that description save dinosaur (and that is arguable).

With the starters, I'd like to see what gen4 almost did. Make their secondary type super-effective against the starter that beats them. So following that, it'd be something like Fire/Electric, Water/Poison, Grass/Ground or Rock. Probably Rock, since Grass/Ground was done but so was Fire/Fighting. It could also use the Dark/Fighting/Psychic thing, which you did, but in the opposite direction.

Goddomot, why do I only ever find these threads so late in their life span? I have to leave soon too. I love reading them in the archive, but I'd like to participate too for once.

>>9501765
Their special ability should be all about using all three in one team. Like they get a stat bonus, or you can switch between the three of them for free.

>>9501786
Shitty players need to find a new GM then.

>>9501791
Not dinosaur enough, but Breloom was pretty sweet.

>>9501786
It's not supposed to like them. They just stole it from its rightful owner. But if they can get feats that increase how quickly it'll turn to them (like Silver's Totodile), or that they'll fight for them anyway (as if they had an assload of badges), then it makes it more viable.

I'd totally play a Snagger that takes one of a beaten trainer's Pokemon as a trophy. Shit would be cash.

>>9501781
It was pretty good.

I would probably change the one-on-one structure of Gyms. The way the system is setup has the potential to make one on ones really one sided. Team Synergy is pretty important for PTA.

>>9501848
Out of curiousity, for those who plan to make the Snagger, would this be an Advanced class for Capture Specialist?
I'm trying to have 1 new advanced class per Class during the Mystic update and I've yet to have a 'new' class for the Capture Specialist. Maybe you folks could make it if it's not too ridiculous.

As for the Nature-Paladin, that could be an interesting addition to the Ranger as an Advanced class.

After Beta is out after all, P:TA will be one giant community project with as much content as there is contributions.

For the people asking about stealing the teams pokemon, I was thinking this: The act of snagging a pokemon is what creates a shadow pokemon, since they have to be moved to a new pokeball, which causes severe mental trama. A Shadow pokemon will randomly go into a rage, where its movepool becomes limited, it can't learn new moves, and it is also confused. Being near its actual trainer will ALWAYS activate this, so stealing a teamates pokemon will render the pokemon useless to you.

You CAN steal gym leaders pokemon, however, since gym matches are heavily spectated and guarded, you will be killed before you even manage to leave the gym.

>>9501794
I showed up 2 DAYS LATE to the last thread... seriously...

>>9501939
Snagger would have to be either Cap. Specialist or Ranger (the two classes based around kinds of captures) and Capture Specialist fits better.

>>9501965
Killed? No. Arrested, detained and jailed forever? Yes.
SUGGESTION TO THOSE MAKING SNAGGER:
POKEMON CAN ONLY BE CAPTURED IF THEY DONT LOVE THEIR ACTUAL TRAINERS. But jsut cause they're being saved by you doesn't mean they automatically like you. Add these few clauses to how the Snagger works or it will be hell for the GM as the Snagger runs around stealing everything from normal trainers.

>>9501965
That would be effective, and reflects how snagged pokemon work in Colosseum

>>9502001
Yes. Loyalty is Snagger-repellent

>>9502001
Maybe not 'love'. The pokemon that are allowed to be snagged should have at least have a negative tendency towards its owner in order for it to be allowed to be caught.
This, plus Halfwing's adaptation of Wes' snagging in Colosseum would look pretty spiffy. They shouldn't be Shadow pokemon though. They should rage though, and I mean that literally. They should mindlessly use the Move Rage unless they are calmed down and converted.

>>9502054
Loyalty being Snagger repellent.
Why did I never think of this before?
Suddenly Snagger doesn't seem to stupid in game. At all. Too bad I deleted all of its rough notes for features long ago.

>>9501939
I was thinking I would either go with the Team Grunt idea posted earlier, or start adding "hybrid advanced classes" So the Snagger class would require both the capture specialist and the ranger class.

Not sure wich yet. However capture specialist gets WAY TO MANY bonuses to catch rate. That won't end well. But I'll see what I can do...

>>9502001
Snagging doesn't always work. Its going to use the regular capture rules with a large penalty.

And yes, killed. This is basically like trying to kidnap the presidents kids... during the middle of a press confrence with them right next to him.

They WILL shoot to kill.

GM can change this if they want though.

>>9502163
Haha! Halfwing, you're already on to what would be my group's P:TA PHB2!
Advanced classes that require multiple Classes as their prerequisites!
This would be done with gen 5 bestiary update. We've not begun to work on it. It's just what we had decided to do to, to come out along side the second Bestiary.

I'll be heading to sleep for now though /tg/.
I'll check thread in the morning to answer any more questions that come up.
Until next time.

>>9501939
Paladin stuff. How are these for the basic features: (Keep in mind, I thought these up with a fantasy campaign in mind)

Smite: Probably a Daily power. I kinda thought this up with Alignment in mind even though I know PTA has no alignment. Pretty much a melee attack by the trainer that does "Super Effective" damage against someone of opposite alignment.
Or OH! It's an attack with extra damage powered by the types of their patron legendary! So if you're a Paladin under, say, Lugia, your Smite will do somethingDsomething of Dragon/Psychic damage with appropriate super-effectiveness or resistance as needed.

Righteous Fury:
Your voice is filled with the vengeance of your patron. Pokemon you command are willing to fight for you.
Effect: Pokemon with the "Helpful" title have four of their moves revealed to the Paladin, who may command the helpful pokemon to attack. An attack by a Helpful pokemon counts as its action, and it is released after performing it.

Quick and dirty writeups. Any ideas?

>>9502254
>Or OH! It's an attack with extra damage powered by the types of their patron legendary! So if you're a Paladin under, say, Lugia, your Smite will do somethingDsomething of Dragon/Psychic damage with appropriate super-effectiveness or resistance as needed.

Better idea. Don't bring alignmentfaggotry into this.

>>9502282
>>9502254

And by Dragon/psychic I mean Flying/Psychic

>>9502254
Bad news friend, Mystic can already smite.
Though that power to give Helpful attack commands is really new and exciting.

I would like to ask something should smite come back sometime, that being... do you have a rough idea on a release date for the beta?I have worked on a few homebrew games with a friend or two on this line but never really got too far with it... not in a d20 sense anyways but your game seems to have mad crazy potential... honestly I'm looking foreword to this more than I did spore, and dear god was that a let down but you know... no pressure? haha

>>9502254
>>9502236
And if we're going by dual-class prerequisites, I imagine it would have to needs something like Ranger/Mystic or something.

>>9502236
Cool, but I am currently leaning to the Team Grunt class. Any ties to capture specialist just seem so broken.

However, If you need a new Capture Specialist class, How about something involving seals? They would give a bonus to apperal in contests, and could even give a small effect in battle when you send out your pokemon, weaponizing the pokeballs (Fire seals could cause some minor burst damage, Petals could heal nearby allies, Smoke could lower enemy accuracy, etc.)

>>9502322
Goddammit. What skill is it? If Paladin requires Ranger/Mystic to get Maybe the Paladin just gets an upgraded or tricked out version of it.

>>9502365
Why is this still being discussed?
Any class can be an evil class.
Whatever. Stark's all 'everyone can make anything and play for fun, lol' which is good in theory. But, then jackasses will just fuck up common sense.

>>9502322
Well, maybe instead of An attack, it would be more appropriate to get a defensive skill instead.

Divine Armor:
Static
When taking damage from powers exhibiting a type, the paladin is considered the same type as its patron legendary, and applies weaknesses and resistances as appropriate.

Become a patron to, say, Registeel, and weapon attacks without alignment (Which I would assume default to normal type) would be "Not very effective."

>>9502332
>Spore
I WAITED SIX GOD DAMN YEARS FOR THAT GAME!

I CHECKED THE 3 DIFFERENT FAN SITES TWICE A DAY EVERY DAY!

...
God damn it maxis. You had created the best god damn game the world had ever seen. You created what was literally the perfect sandbox game. I could take the delays, at least you were working on it.

But then you tried to get rid of that teen rating, and lower it to an E...

You had so much potential. You had nasa begging to see what a terraformed mars look like. You had robin williams create a creature so vile, that the game itself crashed to prevent it from having kids. You created a game that could be sold to hardcore gamers, while still being used in Biology, Psychology AND History classes as educational material.

And you threw it all away. Just to get a slightly broader audience.

Maxis, I am dissapoint.

So, peanut gallery, any more ideas for Paladin (It might need a more pokemon-y name, by the way, but Paladin is an okay placeholder) and Snagger?

>>9502579
Snagger requiring a bad relationship between the trainer and pokemon seems to be the easy way to handle it. I'd personally set it as a capture specialist, and just throw on a ridiculous capture rate penalty.

>>9502579
For paladin, how about a feat that allows you to hit for super effective damage against things your patron is weak against? Assuming the Paladin is meant to be fighting either alongside or in protection of the legendary, it would make sense that the trainer would be able to cover the legendary's typing.

Say, if your patron is Registeel, Your special attack would deal super effective damage against things that are strong against steel. So your attack would hit Fire, fighting, and Ground types for super effective damage.

>>9502427
>Why are there corrdintors if everyone can enter contests? Why are there capture specialists if everyone can catch pokemon? Why are there ace trainers if everyone can battle? Why are there researchers if everyone can learn stuff? Why are there breeders if everyone can breed pokemon? Why are there psychics when everyone can... Okay... That one doesn't work... But you get my point.

Anyone can join a Team. The Team Grunt is just the best fit. They are the ones who practice evading the law, stealing, and litterally getting away with murder. So when the group has to do one of those, anyone can do it, but only the Team Grunt can do it with no risk of drawing unwanted attention or getting caught.

>>9502579
Not an idea, but would combining the Ranger skill "No Restraint" (Lets you command pokemon without capturing them) with "Righteous Fury" work? That seems like an awesome move combination and I want to know if it is in fact, doable.

The problem is if you don't have to restrain the pokemon, are you given an opportunity to learn the 4 moves? Maybe if you tell the pokemon to attack with No Restraint, it uses an attack at random since you did not specify? Seems like something that should be cleared up before people get confused.

>>9502651
I suggest a skill somewhere down the line that lets you do that thing Team Rocket does in the games once you kick the boss's ass, where the screen goes dark for a split second and when it comes back up the entire building has been abandoned.

>>9502651
Plus, just like there can be corrupt rangers, there can be noble Grunts I imagine. Or at least Grunts that believe what they are doing is noble.

>>9502579
Enforcer sounds like a cool name.

Also, the thread has reached the point where my DSi takes a full minute to completely load the page, So I'll probably be leaving soon.

Any questions before I head out?

>>9502785
What would the other advanced classes for the Team Grunt be, if I may ask? With a little overview for each idea?

Paladin needs to do something with his companion. Maybe he can change his Companion's typing to the patron legend's, or learn a signature move. The implication being that the Paladin's companion pokemon is turning into an avatar of the god.

You know, many people seem to be keen on running a war themed campaign. It would be fully possible to create new advanced classes around that concept.

Ace trainer advanced class: Veteran soldier.
The veteran soldier has seen his fair share of battle, and cannot be phased by the horrors of war. No fear, no hesitation, just the orders he is given. He is always one step ahead and one level above his enemies, and little takes him by surprise.

Breeder advanced class: Mass breeder. The mass breeder specializes in creating pokemon not for himself, but for use by total strangers. Pokemon bred by the mass breeder will treat any master as if he was bred by him.

Capture specialist advanced classt: Snagger. The snagger appreciates the bond one must have between pokemon and trainer, for he knows exactly what waits for him if that bond is broken.

>>9502953
>Learn a signature move.

Oh shit. My companion just learned Roar of Time. All y'alls are fucked.

Coordinator advanced class: USO.
The USO uses his pokemon to keep morale in the front lines high. He also serves an

active role in assaults, his pokemon's powerful demonstrations demoralizing enemy

combatants.

Martial artist advanced class: sniper.
The sniper uses his pokemon from hiding, firing ranged attacks such as sonic boom

and psychic without being traced back. It is not an easy feat, though, and the

sniper and his pokemon must be as one.

Psychic advanced class: warmind.
The warmind knows the the two most important parts of a battle are knowing the

enemy and knowing yourself. The warmind uses his psychic abilities to predict the

enemy's movements and to make sure his enemy cannot predict his.

Ranger advanced class: Guerrilla.
Even in times of war, wild pokemon far outnumber the trained. The guerrilla

specializes in using massive amount of wild pokemon. Though it takes a great while

and a great many guerrillas to assemble a great force, they can easily turn the

tide of any battle.

Researcher advanced class: forward recon.
The forward recon takes him knack for memory and applies it to war. With a glace,

he can determine the size and power of an entrenched position, even if none of the

pokemon are sent out. The forward recon has an amazing knack for quick and

photographic memory, as well as a knack for insightful reading of people.

>>9502825
Well, earlier someone suggested Con man, Snagger, and Executive. I was also thinking of including a class that deals with making your pokemon hate you. And possibly a hacker. It needs play testing anyway, so I'll just see what my players come up with.

Also, depending on what I can come up with, I might make a Stalker class (anime team rocket)

One of the Class feats I have in mind is being able to survive lethal attacks, with the upgraded version also applying to your pokemon. Although for balance reasons, I will probably make it so you can choose the be unkillable from special attacks, or physical attacks, but not both.

New thread?
>>9502650

>>9502746
"Hasty Retreat" If you are caught while attempting an illegal action, Roll 1d20. If the result is higher then 10 (needs testing) you may avoid all concequences. The action you were attempting is automatically failed.