The ears.

They look like europeans, rather than humans.

pointy ears and elongated faces.

check the sketches in your 3E D&D players handbook under the races segment

>>9015421
I smiled :)

>>9015421

Glad to finally see somebody acknowledging our endless superiority over you mere mortals.

>>9015421
whites are subhuman?

do elves look anything like this?

Depending on the setting they're tremendously long in limb and face, beyond a normal human, and either taller or shorter than the average human, Or just like regular humans, only hotter.

>>9015420
are elf ears like LOTR where it's a human ear with a slight point at the tip, or like world of Warcraft Blood Elves or Night Elves? Or those anime elves with the ears that stick straight out the sides?

>>9015544
anime ears that move like facial expressions are the best.

I like my elves to look utterly alien and incomprehensible.

Elves look like this. That's all you need to know.

Elves have smaller teeth than humans and naturally thin eyebrows to eliminate the need for plucking. Elevn females generally have perky breasts, regardless of size, and elven males are generally have a willy like a mouse's tongue, which is why half elven crossbreeds are so common.
tl;dr elven ladies love man-cock.

It's the androgyny. All of them look like J-pop ladyboys.

>>9015571
So former meth heads, + pointy ears?

>>9015544

Well, uh, maybe It's like penis size.

It depends. Some have really big pointy ears. Some have slightly smaller pointy ears.

I like my elves to look like Iops.

>>9015592
Yes. Also, they're slender, androgynous and with angular facial features.

The difference is it's not gay if it's elves

A 0% obesity rate.

CH-BLAM. Can I get a hallelujah?

Humans have curves. Their features are rounded and smooth.

Elves have angles. Their features are pointed and sharp.

Pointed nose, pointed ears, pointed chin, pointed teeth, perky breasts, exceptionally narrow waist, fairly broad hips, etc.

When you think human, think oval.
When you think elf, think diamond.

Humans have curves, elves have angles.

Basically imagine an anthropomorphized wasp, and you've got a basic idea of what an elf's physical structure should look like.

Sharp.
Narrow.
Pointed.
Angular.

Nothing is smooth, nothing curves, nothing rolls.

SHARP. NARROW. POINTED. ANGULAR.

>>9015730
isn't her face too round to be an elf?

>>9015739
Why are you mocking her under bite?

>>9015746
I mean over bite.

>>9015730
Here's a different version; the proportions are very slender, but not bony. Likewise, the facial features arent so much angular as exaggerated. big eyes with no whites, small mouth, small nose...she almost looks like a literal anime character. Or a sexier Grey.

I'd let her mutilate my cow, if you know what I mean.

>>9015702
>Nothing is smooth, nothing curves, nothing rolls.

>SHARP. NARROW. POINTED. ANGULAR.

Don't stop, you're describing my perfect woman, here!

>>9015573
I always imagined male Elf-cock to be longer than that of a human, but maybe slightly thinner. I mean the rest of the Elven body is longer/slimmer than that of a human so I don't see why their dongs would be any different.

>>9015763
wait wait...
so you guys are saying elves either have jagged sharp faces like druggies, or smooth narrow faces like attractive versions of Greys?

And here's an example of the ever popular "they're like humans but with pointed ears and they're hotter" version.

>>9015862
I imagined it being spined like a cat.

>>9015797
This should turn you on.

>>9015868
Depends on the world. Some universesn just have Elves looking like perfect humans with pointy ears. Which is boring.

Others have them noticably different - very sharp, bony and angular, noticably non-human. Which is sexy as all hell.

>>9015868
It totally depends on the setting man. Only thing that's really required to be an elf is pointy ears and longer life spans.

>>9015873
Why does that elf look like she should have a Georgian accent? (American)

>>9015868
Those are two versions, yes.

They're either all points and angles, or they're basically human-gray hybrids.

>>9015874
...why? I mean, why on earth would you think Elves have cat dicks?

>>9015885
I find both attractive, but I am the man with a thousand paraphilias.

>>9015904
SHARP. NARROW. POINTED. ANGULAR.

>>9015903
Or they're just perfect humans. Three versions.

From a world building perspective I prefer the more alien versions, but I enjoy them all in terms of eye candy.

angular like this?

>>9015903
Or there are some cases where they're both.

Narrow, angular bodies combined with big mono-colour eyes, small nose, small mouth, but all facial features being very pronounced.

>>9015931
Make the head about one inch narrow.
Make the head about two inches longer.

Less round, more long.

Like a horse.

>>9015931
Yes, but even more so. Think of that as a half-elf.

>>9015931
Twenty hours in MSP.

Not much difference - but a bit longer and a bit thinner.

>>9015884
Sexy.

>>9015952

Do you mean Tolkien elves or fae elves?

>>9015952
sarah jessica parker?

what about Op's pic
images/1270559804931.jpg

and this
images/1270562644544.jpg

>>9016017
First one does it pretty well. Perhaps the face is a bit too wide, but can't tell due to the hair.

Second one is just a doll-like human. Too round.

here ya go, a real life elf

>>9015982

>>9016035
can someone try editting the second one, curious how it'll look

>>9016048
Perfect.

We've made an elf, gentlemen.

OP's picture is nothing short of perfection.

>>9016048
That's pretty much how i see an elf, yeah.

>>9015413
>>9015716
>>9016048
These ones are pretty much perfect as the "angular" elves.
>>9015730
This is an acceptable variant.

So, what about other races? Dwarves, halflings, orcs? How do they look compared to humans?

how do demons look? stuff like teiflings or demons like succubi for instance.

>>9016164
Dwarves are like humans but much wider and more muscular.

Orcs vary from setting to setting. Either big green and brutish, or small, bow legged, dark, and fanged.

>>9016164
If a human is an oval, and an elf is a diamond, a dwarf is a square.

>>9016220
This.

Human females have curves, elf females have angles, dwarf females are most just... straight lines, really.

I think the Arcanum half-ogre look is good for orcs: could almost pass as human, just much larger and exaggarated, rather than "inhuman brute".

>>9016295
I think this thread is for common depictions, not what we think would be cool.

Where did the idea to give elves pointy ears come from if Tolkein never mentioned it?

>>9016048
I see your efl and raise you a drow.

>>9016316
Tolkien never mentioned it?

>>9016316
Needed something to seperate them from humans, I guess.

"Unnatural, superior grace" sounds a bit masturbatory.

>>9016367
I always refluffed this with more emphasis on the 'unnatural' and less on the 'superior'. I imagine the different proportions of an Elf's body would make the way they move look...odd. Almost too smooth, too elegent, to the point where it passes into becoming vaguely disturbing to watch.

>>9016396
Keep in mind that nothing about elves is smooth.

They're sharp, narrow, angular and dangerous.

Sure, they're graceful and slender but...

Just think of a cat, really. Languid, loose and almost lazy. The next thing you know, every muscle in their body is tense and like a sinuous blur they're suddenly tearing their prey apart. It's all jerky and sharp, yet in a strange, graceful, beautiful way.

>>9016444
their skin sure is smooth...

>>9016344

Tolkein never explicitly said that Elves had pointy ears basically. Actually he mentioned a few times that they could be mistaken for humans.

>>9016444
>The next thing you know, every muscle in their body is tense and like a sinuous blur they're suddenly tearing their prey apart. It's all jerky and sharp, yet in a strange, graceful, beautiful way.

You have NO idea how much of a turnon that mental image is. I fuckin' love weird, fae-like, non-human elves.

>>9016594
man fuck human women, I'm converting to elves

>>9016508
Actually, beneath the skin you can probably feel every twitch of every muscle, and the shape of the bones.

>>9016541
I remember this discussion from lotrplaza... somebody posted a quote where Tolkien describes elvish ears as leaf-shaped. That's probably the beginning of the trope.

>>9016594
>>9016614

Yea. I'll take that over some dumpy dwarf or boring human ANY day.

>>9016594
>>9016614
I was going to try and describe further physiological behaviour.

... But now I feel dirty.

>>9016664

Basically, yes. But there's also this to remember:

"Elves and Men are evidently in biological terms one race, or they could not breed and produce fertile offspring..."
JRRT - Letters #153, September 1954

"The existence of Elves: that is of a race of beings closely akin to Men, so closely indeed that they must be regarded as physically (or biologically) simply branches of the same race."
JRRT - Morgoth's Ring, Athrabeth Finrod ah Andreth Commentary circa 1959

"Also I now deeply regret having used Elves, though this is a word in ancestry and original meaning suitable enough. But the disastrous debasement of this word, in which Shakespeare played an unforgivable part, has really overloaded it with regrettable tones, which are too much to overcome."
JRRT - Letters #151, September 1954

>>9016720
He never really was a storyteller. Much more of a linguist.

>>9016715
Not all of us are fapping! I was taking notes for my homebrew!

And for LATER fapping!

>>9016720
Good thing he didn't live to see what D&D has done to his elves.

>>9016765
I just picture elves doing everything in spikes, you know? They're either completely off and lazily, languidly strolling along, with every muscle in their body completely loose, putting minimum effort into anything, or they're completely on, putting maximum effort into whatever they're doing and undoing whatever obstacle that is in their way. I just don't see them as having a concept of "overkill". Hence why when they're "on", they'd be completely savage, with sharp, sudden, jerky motions, like how a lion tears the meat from its prey.

Yet again, very feline.

>>9016784
Or what fantasy in general has done to his entire setting over and over again.

>>9016720
>Elves and Men are evidently in biological terms one race, or they could not breed and produce fertile offspring...

So Tolkien also started the aspie tradition of bringing science into fantasy. He should have come out of the closet and called them unbermensch instead, then.

>>9016720
>Letters #151, September 1954

God that last one sounds like he regretted using the whole 'Elf' thing.


;__;

>>9016784
I think if he lived to see Gygax's concept of elves, he'd have commited suicide.

If he lived to see Japan's concept of elves, he would've probably used the massive amount of cash in his estate to bring down Hiroshima yet again.

If he saw Blizzard's concept of elves...


... Yeah, let's just stop there and say he's spinning so fast in his grave we could use him to generate free energy for the whole of Africa.

>>9016839
He was always a linguist and a theorist and a world creator.

If anything, you could consider Lord of the Rings to be "hard fantasy" in comparison to the "hard science fiction" out there.

I would use an analogy to Sci-fi

LoTR = Foundation
DnD = Star Wars

>>9016831
That would explain why they almost lack societal progress and progress personally at slow rate, despite living for hundreds of years.

imagine an elf walking down a runway, like naomi campbell or something, like that catlike movement that just seems to come natural to them...

>>9016831
Very nice. Interesting as well. Keep them strange and alien without them being impossible to understand or sympathese with - they are a PC race, after all.

>>9016862
I just wish he lived to read the Bastards and Bloodlines splatbook. My favorite crossbreeds (yes, breeds) were halfling+dog and elf+horse.

>>9016963
>halfling+dog and elf+horse

You're joking.

A Horse would split an Elf apart. What does she do, wank the thing off then scoop handfuls of horse-jizz up and pour it into her vag?

>>9016841
>God that last one sounds like he regretted using the whole 'Elf' thing.

A Gipsy lady told him what he had started.

>>9016913
Yeah.

Most elven structures and cities would likely be created in times of need and urgency. As soon as the time of need and urgency is over, they descend into stagnation almost immediately.

For example, let's say there's a standard elf civilization that has been just sitting around in a continent for several years, their refusal to act causing their population and cities to slowly dwindle into a secluded location.
Orcs come along to slaughter them all for their own purposes.
Elves suddenly go into overdrive and begin fighting and fucking like they mean it. The time of urgency causes rapid maturity and development.
The elves fight and fuck and expand and build and after a few decades, their dying civilization has become a massive empire that rules over the continent. The orcs have been hunted down to almost extinction and the war is over, with the elves having won.
The time of need is over and they can sit back, kick up their feet and relax for the next few thousand years, slowly allowing their empire to decay and transform into a secluded, dying civilization.
Rinse and repeat.

>>9016981
I don't know. Ask Owen K. C. Stephens.

>>9016996
Intriguing idea.
Imagine being a human villager on ground zero when elves begin to shift their culture from treehugging Hippie to bloodcurdling Nazi.

Are the elves part of the eco-system like mindworms in SMAC?

>>9016981
There's also halflings and harpies, ropers and dwarves, cloakers and halflings, gnomes and umberhulks and so on.

>>9016983
What did he start out of curiosity?

>>9017046
I'd say so.

As soon as their natural environment is harmed, they go into overdrive and begin fucking up everyone's shit.

>>9017055
The degeneration of elves from Germanic folklore to the stereotypical creatures of teenage fantasy that they are today.

>>9017046
>Imagine being a human villager on ground zero when elves begin to shift their culture from treehugging Hippie to bloodcurdling Nazi.

Time to get the fuck out of dodge. I don't see an Elvish Wild Hunt seeing much difference between humans or Orcs. Sure, they'll be targetting the twisted, brown monsters that destroyed one of their towns, but they'll trample over anything that gets in their way or looks at them funny without batting an eyelid. Or just to practice their sword-skills before moving onto the Orcs themselves.

>>9017068
So, almost like the white blood cells of the world? If one race becomes too much of a threat, the elves trigger into 'kill mode' and dismember the offending culture before lapsing back into dormancy?

>>9017115
Not of the world. Of the territory they live on.
They don't have some higher purpose, it's just their survival instincts are too strong.

>>9017142
Ah, makes sense. Does make me wonder why Elves would be seen outside of their communities, though. They don't strike me as the sorts particularly eager to go out exploring, when they can just relax in happy apathy.

> Wild Hunt
That's the term I was looking for! Ghaele Sidhe! I always preferred my Elves to be psychologically alien.

>>9015413
Don't suppose anyone has a larger version of this? DEM BEAUTIFUL EYES.

>>9017098
>>9017115
It's an interesting concept, isn't it? Lately, /tg/'s been a really good place for brainstorming, between the troll threads.

I'm imagining it from a human's eyes. As a child, they'd venture into the forest despite the warnings about elves they got from their parents, and perhaps even see one or two, who smile lazily at them and tell wonderful, exotic tales of their old empires, in voices that can go from deep, majestic whispers to high, musical cries in a moment's notice.

Slowly, the child turns into an adult and begins to worry about more important things. The marauding orc threat in the wilderness, forever growing stronger.

One day, the human is briefly struck with sorrow when he recieves word that his beloved forest that he visited as a child was attacked by the Orcish threat.

>>9017178
Well, there are black sheeps in the family.
Also, as I see it, this kind of elves wouldn't have their own ambassadors. They'd be more like "Yeah man send your talking guy. Meanwhile, we'll continue chilling out."

>>9017260
It's the middle of his life, and it's no longer safe for anyone to wander the wilderness. The orcs are everywhere. The town's under constant siege and the population has declined. It's forced to live off of its own resources. Trade has become impossible.

Then, suddenly, erupting from the ruined forest, elves.

Thousands upon thousands of elves, So many elves that they could've never had hidden there, plowing into the green tide of orcs with magical steel and brilliant magic.

Yet they don't stop there. In their terrible wrath, they tear the walls asunder and butcher everything in their way. Every obstacle is destroyed, whether it's human or orc in origin. The only way to survive is to run, and so he runs. Many of his family do not make it. Their screams are accompanied by the musical laughter of his childhood friend.

He's become an old man. People don't care about orcs anymore. They stopped caring about orcs long ago. Elves were the problem. Elves could never tell the difference between orc or man. They killed both, without distinction. Living in a small, sheltered community, hiding from the fae race that had suddenly dominated the continent and overgrown all other civilization with their majestic forests, he told his grandchildren of the elves. It didn't matter that they had stopped attacking. That they had disappeared into the hearts of the forests that they had created. They were a menace. They were a threat. Humanity needed to remember that.

He dies. Time passes. Eventually, the elven civilization fades into small groves and in its place, the younger races prosper. They forget why the elves were feared.

The cycle starts again.

>>9017178
I suppose there are some elves who just can't turn themselves off. Perhaps it's a mental defect, or perhaps it's the equivilant of their puberty. They just need something to *do*, y'know?

That's the origin of Elven adventurers.

>>9017294
More likely it's "constantly in mildly hyperactive state" than "can't turn themselves off"

>>9017294
>>9017273

Makes sense, yea. And it's definately an interesting spin on elves. Much more so than their generic Gygax or Tolkienesque equivilents.

Isn't the warmongering genocidal elf a bit "biel-tan"-ish? Nothing wrong with that of course.


>>9017192
>Gheallie Sidhe
Fix'd

>>9017243
sadly no larger version of it

Years of Spring & Summer: peace and growth

Years of Autumn and Winter: war and destruction

>>9017345
Of course it is.

When they understand that their species as they know it is under threat, they "turn on" until their species is in a stable position for several hundred years to come.

When they are under threat in any form, or whenever they are confronted by a difficult task, they "turn on" until the threat is neutralized to a degree of satisfaction or the task has been completed to a degree of satisfaction.

>>9017329
Funnily, we're actually bringing elves back to how they were originally. Lazy, mostly benign spirits of the forests that you DO NOT WANT TO PISS OFF, otherwise they'd curse your family or your village for the next thousand years.

Yet somehow, we're still keeping them a playable race.

I like these elves we've thought up. All sharp angles and narrow and spikes and on-and-off, it's awesome.

>>9017386
elf years being longer than human years, we would have a Wild Hunt every 60 or so years

>>9017386
That's a bit too short term in my opinion.

>>9017458
Still, too short term. I don't see any reasons for elves to go on a Wild Hunt unless they're endangered somehow.

>>9017486
Yea. It wouldn't be something that happens to any dedicated schedule.

Elves are eldritch horrors. They are born a writhing mass of horrible tentacles in the shape of an infant. At birth, they are bestowed a blessing that makes them appear to be a tall, thin, humanoid version of whatever species is viewing them. (humans see a "standard elf," dragons see a lithe dragonborn, etc). When dealing with most human-size creatures, this gives them a decided advantage in diplomacy. However, when dealing with dwarves, it helps little, as a tall, thin dwarf just looks like a human. Elves release a pheromone that confuse any mind that attempts to describe them, leaving most descriptions of elves to be vague.

Sometimes, /tg/, you can be awesome.

YOU HAVE MADE ELVES COOL AGAIN.

>>9017533
Get your Asari faggotry out of here, please.

>>9015571
No that's goblins... well at least their royalty.

>>9017588
I see what you did there.

>>9017588
Jareth wasn't a royal goblin, he was a ruler of goblins, whatever creature he as himself.

>>9017533
Elves with the Pseudonatural template. Mindfucking entities of the far realm ala Changeling?

>>9017630
Look.

Let's leave the Asari "assumes pleasing form" thing out of this, okay?

>Elves are made awesome again

>Wish I could have thought of this idea myself

>Realize I never could have

>>9017913
Elves were always awesome. You just haven't been looking at the right setting.

Elder Scrolls is where it's at man.

Dark Elves: Xenophobic slave holding theocracy based on ancestor worship and their three (actually living) ascended Gods.

High Elves: Aloof, arrogant, eugenicists that have reduced their genetic diversity to such a degree they mostly look related to outsiders. Also their names are just numbers.

Wood Elves: Tree worshipping savage cannibals that eat only meat, preferably from a fallen foe. When they get pissed off they role back time and revert to a collective, primordial entity that is the sum of all animal life and fucking murder everything.

>>9017913
... But I don't give a shit?

Brainstorming with awesome people over the internet is better than coming up with your own shit, in my opinion.

It's a community thing and I am happy I contributed.

>>9017997
You also forgot...
The Dwarves: Babylonian and bearded manly elves with a penchant for steamwork, magma, convoluted fortresses, and ultimately turned themselves into the skin of a "god" when they realized that existence is more or less a dream.

>>9017997
Well, we've made generic elves cool, not setting specific elves.

Typically more angular faces compared to humans. Humans with faces angular like that are sometimes said to have "elfen" features, so that's my assumption.

>>9017997
You forgot one:

Dwarf Elves: Bearded, Vaguely Hebrew, Steampunk Transhumanists who tell the gods to go fuck themselves as a hobby.

>>9018041
Ahem. Allow me to elaborate.

SHARP.
NARROW.
POINTED.
ANGULAR.

THESE FOUR WORDS DESCRIBE AN ELF PERFECTLY.

MEMORIZE THEM.

>>9015571
It's Oberon!

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>>9018177

I can imagine Hitler screaming this as his racial perfection for some reason. Think I've been on 4chan for too long.

>>9015413
Cher is an elf?

>>9018816
Don't worry, I can imagine it too.

>>9018132
I loved Azura and the Box.

It'd be Humanity, fuck yeah, except it was done by elves.

So Mortality, fuck yeah.

>>9016444
Damn, so that was why I'm always getting that urge to meow when I see some particularly eenteresting elf pics...