Yeeessssssss!

For those confused:
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/8515581
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/8526381
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/8538520
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/8562185
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/8598508
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/8606900
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/8618962
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/8633908
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/8651744
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/8663665
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/8671001
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/8690201
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/8711026
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/8750800
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/8764141
TL:DR: Mercenary Air RPG (Area 88) in Africa, GM is a God, Missions are Fuck Brilliant, Execution of Missions is Barrel of Monkeys Fun. Planefaggotry is everywhere.

>>8787569
Ooooh man, dat landing gear... I want her to trample my dick ;_;

eeeeexcellent.

THANK GOD

/tg/ IS OVER-RUN BY FUCKING MORONIC BULLSHIT, BUT REINFORCEMENTS HAVE ARRIVED

First thread I see on refresh.

Pic is how i feel.

You spoil me, OP.

>>8787673
Fucking saved.

>>8787613

ZOMBIE LINCON DISSAPROVES

>>8787569
Did everyone make it out?

>>8787779
Read that as "did everyone make out"
Now I badly want some plane fapfiction.
Thanks a lot.

>>8787804

>plane fapfiction

Why do you put these ideas in my head?

Why the fuck do you do it?

>>8787819
Because I care.

>>8787804
Wait for sukhoi to show up to this thread.

LIBERIANS CAN'T CATCH YOU IF YOU'RE ON FIRE!

HOLDIN' OUT FOR AN OP

>>8787969
I like this pic.

OP again

Steve started by asking us all if we understood what we needed to do, as always. We then picked our gear. Hugs didn't have anything to do, since he was already loaded. I took 4 AMRAAMs and 4 AIM-9s, as did Biscuit. Scotch took 6 AIM-9s. We had asked around prior to the flight, and found out the base had no anti-air guns, they had been packed away already. We had also talked about alternates, and figured that if needed, an escape to Angola would be our best bet if we couldn't make it to the refueler or Kisangani. We talked to the weather briefer, and he told us we could expect an overcast at 9000 ft, so that might be an issue. The cloud layer was thick, extending 3000 or so ft higher, and there was drizzle in some areas, outright rain in others, the beginning of a storm system that was developing. We still had no idea where the fleet was as circled above the clouds. We tanked with the Midas, which then began proceeding to the rendezvous point. We were told that the final personnel were now on their way to the waiting aircraft.

>>8788092

Yes. Either way.. this shall be a battle they sing songs about!

>>8788092
I get the feeling that this is what it was like below those clouds...

>>8788092

Eye of the Tiger- playing.

Vodka- prepared.

EPIC ASSKICKING- INCOMING

The British know what you did. Which means the U.N. knows what you did. I have a feeling Steve is going to OUT OF NOWHERE FUCKING RAPTORS you guys.

Of course the Limeys may just try and rush you with their harriers. Are Typhoon's carrier capable?

>>8788291
No, Brits use Harrier GR9's from their carriers

>>8788291
The UN? I'd be concerned about the Brits. The UN would just send a strongly worded letter.

>>8788291

Best bet is Warsaw Pact or China.

>>8788358
I was thinking raptors because of that whole HMMWV debacle, maybe the U.S. wanted a piece.

Though I'm sure the russians wouldn't mind a shot either.

tl;dr: OP has a lot of people with very large airforces that want them dead.

It is late.

I should go to bed.

New Planethread.

I love you OP.

>>8788355
I'm retarded, I meant NATO.

I am full of herp and derp

So tempted to try and get my DM to run this.

god DAMN this is going to be one WILD ride.

i have that tingling feelings in my pants that indicates Pure Win is about to happen.

That or i'm too close to the microwave again.

>>8788448

So tempted at trying to GM this.

And trick someone else to do it.

Beast of Kandahar was here, the rest of you don't have nearly as cool a name as me.

>>8788509

>>8788509
teh fuck???

Reaver Flight

>>8788562
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RQ-170_Sentinel

OP again
It was pretty clear to us that the company didn't have a lot of faith in our defensive abilities, since we found out that the Midas and Bird Dog were being escorted by some of Blackwood's Hussars. It was still cool to imagine us tanking on the Midas with its MiG-31 and F-18 escort. We didn't have a chance to find out what was flying with the R-99 because Bird Dog called and told us we had some contacts closing from the Northwest. It was at extreme range for them, so they weren't sure, but their track path was going to put them over the airfield in about 30 minutes. Just three targets, although there were other targets 200 miles from the airfield, although it seemed that our airspace had been sanitized. The company had told us before we launched that the flight plans of major airlines seemed to be filed around our airspace, probably due to interference by the British MoD. We began to talk strategy, when Steve put down additional markers, three more in fact, south and to the west of the original three. Both were headed to Kitona. I joined up with Hugs to investigate the northern group, while Biscuit and Scotch remained over the airfield. We were then told that Bird Dog would begin a withdrawal soon, to keep distance between it and these contacts.

>>8788651

Aww shit...

It's beginning.

>>8788651

Wish I could play in a game like this. All my group ever runs is Dark Heresy.

Has OP named his flight yet? I missed the last thread.

>>8788785
I don't believe they did, no. They might have during this session, though.

>>8788678

>>8788763
Aeronautica Imperialis cross over, could be win.

Posting to keep love alive.

OP again
As we headed out, we flew in tight formation, talking about strategy. We both had our radars off, still 200 miles from the contacts. We figured that we'd pound on them with our search radars, (well, really, Hugs radar) try to scare them off, maybe force them to reconsider this approach. Since we'd be closer, we were also hoping to find out a bit more about the group then Bird Dog could tell us. Our engagement plan was pretty simple, fire at range, see if we could break the formation. Hugs decided we were close enough, and powered up the big radar on his jet. Steve let us move another phase, and then dropped seven more contact markers on the map where before there had been three. Hugs looked at me, and then said through his “mask” (he always muffled his voice with his hands, which while stupid, sounds cool) “Multiple contacts, on the plus side, we know you're not shooting down an airliner today.” We moved towards the contacts, changing our plan to 'shoot and run'. And then Steve dropped another four markers into the mass flying at us.

>>8788854
Well, shit.

>>8788854
The good news is you've got a reputation as some dangerous motherfuckers.

The bad news is a whole carrier air wing is coming to see just how dangerous you motherfuckers are.

>>8788902
Pic tangentially related.

>>8788854
Oh christ.

Damn, you ignore /tg/ for a few hours and this.


Sounds bad OP. Thats what? Over a full squadron?

>>8788919

No, this is related. Its the carrier launching the strike on them.

>>8788987
>>8788976
>>8788961
>>8788952
No pic dumps yet bro, we want the debrief!

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF~

>>8789011
Well, could be worse.
Could have a squadron of modern flankers closing in on them.

>>8788854
>and then dropped seven more contact markers on the map where before there had been three.

Oh dear....
Pic related.
its' Ark Royal's sister.

>>8788902
>>8788932

>implying a target-rich environment is a bad thing

The suspense is killing me

>>8789033
could be much, much worse for them, if this is escorting the Ark Royal.

OP again
Then things got worse, since a big search radar hit us, and locked on almost immediately. Hugs was shouting something so I dumped chaff and began a hard turn back the way we came. Hugs did the same thing and began to push back towards the base. As Hugs turned, he scored a radar spot on the other group, which was lucky considering his Rwr was going crazy. Steve put three more markers down on the southern group. Just so you realize, we now had 14 contacts in the North, and 6 in the west, all heading towards us. Steve also put down three surface based radar sources, one of them dangerously close to us. We were heading away, and I asked for a book on UK missiles. Another 20 miles and we would have probably been shot to pieces by a destroyer/frigate of some type, that apparently had been hiding/running cold until Hugs blasted his radar openly. We needed a new plan, we were now restricted to certain airspace, since we didn't feel like going up against ships with an itchy trigger finger. We decided to still make a long range strike, but from a bit closer to the airfield. Since we were allready heading back anyway, Scotch and Biscuit turned to join up with us, as we changed our intercept course towards the six aircraft south of us. Bird Dog figured they'd be arriving at Kitona first anyway, and if we took a long range shot, we might be able to take them down cleanly. But right now we wanted to get together to maximize firepower. Steve started to put down another contact, but this time it was flipped over, and coming off the airfield, so we let out a breath. The first transport was off and climbing out.

>>8789054
You've got to remember that this is a first world air wing, not some third world shit or a terrorist technical, but honest to god professional soldiers that are probably none too happy that OP killed 500 of their countrymen.

So it's victory or death! I hope you made those Brits pay for hurting your business.

>>8789034

If I knew how to photoshop I would change that to "The Congolese Crisis" and "HMS Ark Royal Steams South".

>>8789102
20 Contacts
5 mercs
1 Transport
0 Hope?

THIS IS FUCKING EPIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>8789105

Nah, most were probably German tourists...

>>8789120
That is awesome art dude! We need drawfags doing shit like that!

>>8789054
>implying a target-rich environment is a bad thing

>Implying the Flagship of the Royal Navy's air wing is a walkover like barely-equipped moroccan/3rd world airforces in north african dustholes....

>>8789102

>Steve started to put down another contact, but this time it was flipped over, and coming off the airfield, so we let out a breath. The first transport was off and climbing out.

THE FIRST TRANSPORT IS AWAY

What ever happened to the model Queen Vic with Realistic Battle Damage™?

>>8789186

Yeah, except the mercs don't have a big "Fuck Off!" gun to cover it with.

>>8789168
>>8789105

>implying that timid fighting is going to make the situation any better

OP again
As we flew south, we were told by birddog that some of the northern targets had changed course, and were now tracking to a point south of the airfield. It looked like they were going to try to stay between us and the group they were leaving. We all decided that this was the fighter wing escorting the main strike package. None of the contacs over there were changing speed or course other than that. Then the bad news, about 100 miles ahead of us, the six we were tracking suddenly rocketed forward, heading towards the airfield, and because of their position, Biscuit and Scotch as well. The contacts were doing Mach 1.5 now, and Hugs and I turned to intercept, pushing our jets faster then we had anticipated. Scotch called, saying he was getting hit by a radar, but not fire control. We had no clue what these aircraft were, and they were still accelerating. Hugs didn't like it, so we all decided, this group was going down in flames, no point holding back. Bird Dog started giving us tracking information, while Hugs did his own thing. He was going to hold fire on his big missiles until he was about 35 miles, ensuring a high kill probability.

>>8789373
>Mach 1.5

Uh, oh. Those aren't harriers OP.

>>8789373

>while Hugs did his own thing. He was going to hold fire on his big missiles until he was about 35 miles, ensuring a high kill probability.

>>8789373
Oh god.
Painful death incoming.

>>8789135
On it. I can't wipe out the text and replace it with new, but I can make something equivalent once I find a good enough picture. Way too many carrier shots seem to be taken from either the waterline or dockside and make for crappy dramatic magazine covers.
It'll take a while to run down a good picture t

>>8789373
>Mach 1.5
>Not Harriers

>>8789399
Shit!

Also, hi fligh/tg/uys, looks like I missed the start. I'm making popcorn, sad as that is.

>>8789432
Since this is pretty alternate Erf I'm thinking more along these lines

>>8789373
How fast does death move?
About mach 1.5.

>>8789476
If it's JSFs, op shouldn't be worried. Thing is crap compared to a Typhoon.

>>8789476
If it was JSFs, they'd have a harder time tracking them, but it would be piss-easy to defend against them.

>>8789489
I was going to say that the F-35's stealth might give it an advantage, but then I remembered the international orders don't get all the stealth goodies.

>>8789489
The issue with the Typhoons would be where the fuck they came from. They're not carrier capable IIRC.

>>8789489

Well, its not like we didn't theorize this happening. Incoming Typhoons.

>>8789548
cont'd.

And if they are Typhoons then OP has to worry about even more carrier based reinforcements showing up to ruin his shite.

>>8789571
>>8789562
refuelmind

>>8789548
Oh shit. I just remembered, Ascension Island.

http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gc?MAP-STYLE=&MARKER-STYLE=default&PATH=FHAW-FZAI&PATH-COLOR=
red&PATH-MINIMUM=&PATH-STYLE=&PATH-UNITS=nm&RANGE=&RANGE-COLOR=navy&RANGE-ST
YLE=best&SPEED-GROUND=&SPEED-UNITS=kts

British used it during the Falklands.

>>8789586

At least mine actually is a Typhoon.

>>8789617
They could make it with a tanker, but it'd be damn close.

>>8789571

>And if they are Typhoons then OP has to worry about even more carrier based reinforcements showing up to ruin his shite.

Not quite. The six Typhoons are foraging ahead to set up a BARCAP over the field, to sanitize the airspace for the strike package.

Meanwhile, the strike package is loaded out for- you guessed it- a strike. I doubt they have AIM-120s loaded, perhaps two sidewinders for close-in defense. The rest is MOAR DAKKA for the ground.

In sum- if OP's flight can badly wound the BARCAP, the strike package might not be as eager to dive into the airfield.

Also, is it just me or is OP's flight being thrown to the wolves? The most expendable rooks left behind to slow them down?

>>8789617

... I find it interesting you know about this site.

We continued our approach, watching all the contacts closing on the airfield. Another transport crawled into the air, this time an Il-76. Then Hugs opened fire, FOX THREE, FOX THREE, FOX THREE, FOX THREE, four missiles arcing off his rails, pushing ahead and up, getting kinematic energy. The missiles tracked in towards the targets, who were now diving for the deck, pushing up near Mach 2 at this point. Biscuit got ready to cold launch his AMRAAMs, as did I, while Scotched started to set up for a close intercept since he only had short range weaponry. Sandy decided now was a good time to take part. He told us “I cover my nuts with my hand, and tell my WSO to light it up.” His Aardvark's massive Jammer Pods roared into action, sending out “waves of jamming radiation” according to Steve. Biscuit rippled off his AMRAAMs, and I sent two of mine into the fray as well. The aircraft were pushing downwards, jinking, so they obviously knew they had incoming.

>>8789678
It has its uses for someone who likes planes.

>Also, is it just me or is OP's flight being thrown to the wolves? The most expendable rooks left behind to slow them down?

Or at least leaving the ones who brought down the hammer to the wolves.

It could be that this is a setup and OP is being fed to the brits while the transports get away unharmed.

>>8789617
>Ascension Island
>Ascension Island Royal Airforce Base

GM Steve is god.

Whoever decided to pack away the base's AA early needs to get fired.

>>8789681
>pushing up near Mach 2

Well not JSF's then. Enjoy ur typhoonrape OP.

>“I cover my nuts with my hand, and tell my WSO to light it up.”

>Scotch only has Sidewinders

I love this son of a bitch.

>incomings have not fired their own missiles yet

Hmmmm.

>>8789746
This makes me think Raptors wanting to stay stealthy with their bays closed.

But if that was the case OP probably wouldn't have seen them coming in the first place. INB4 drone distraction force.

>>8789681
>pushing up near Mach 2
oh boy...the rape train is going full speed now, it's got a one way ticket right up your asses.

>>8789746
They need visual confirmation.

>>8789734
It is not like they get to keep the base if the UK is coming for blood. Or that whoever was left behind won't be captured. Packing all the shit you can and getting the fuck out is the right thing to do.

>>8789681
>>8789746
They're diving, and jinking, not engaging. Sounds like another strike flight to me!

>>8789775
You would expect incoming missiles to trump the visual ROE. It's usually visual confirmation or weapons hot if you take fire, isn't it?

>>8789773

>drone
>mach 2

wat

>>8789135
>If I knew how to photoshop I would change that to "The Congolese Crisis" and "HMS Ark Royal Steams South".


I felt a little work was appropriate. Update to the modern Newsweek cover and a more modern style.

and if the Empire strikes back was in 1982 for the Falklands, given the events in this game.... this title is only appropriate.

>>8789800

Which is why I think Sukhoi might have it pegged here- if they knew there are missiles in the air, and they're Typhoons, and they're obviously inside AMRAAM range, they'd be returning fire right now.

And don't forget about the eventual cruise missile strike folks!

>>8789812
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_Polecat

See also MQM-42 and QF-4 (which would be all manner of irony).

Though the brits probably wouldn't have either of them.

>>8789826
>Phantom Menace

Brilliant.

Type faster OP. I'm chewing my fingers off here.

>>8789777

It's not about holding the base it's about just having that little bit of extra firepower to help. Unless the AA they had was completely useless there is no excuse to not keep every weapon on the line helping to cover the escape.

OP again
Scotch circled into a reverse turn, Biscuit following, so that the planes would pass underneath them, and then they'd light the burners chasing them. The question was how many would they be chasing? And how much faster were they going to go? Our missiles merged with the contacts, we held our breath as Steve rolled some dice, and then began to pull off markers. The force lost four aircraft to our ten missiles. We didn't know who had hit what, but that didn't matter. A two on two was something Biscuit and Scotch could handle, and as it was Hugs and me were out of position to chase them, since they had a speed advantage and we could at best, match their speed. So we turned north east, and pushed hard, racing towards the other massive force coming at the base. Scotch and Biscuit completed their half loop, their burners sending plumes of brown smoke through the sky as they began their dive as the two remaining aircraft roared underneath them at mach 2.1. Scotch made the spot “TORNADOS!”

>>8789829
Would the Limeys really be so dumb as to not expect ATA combat given the reason they're on this hunt in the first place? Especially on their vanguard assets?

I dunno, maybe I'm putting too much stake in Steve's troll-fu.

>>8789906
So, who's going to stay behind and wait for the cruise missile to strike?

Anyone?

Hands, please?

>>8789857

Hmm, good point, wasn't thinking about reece/target drones. Though I doubt they'd be jinking.

>Scotch made the spot “TORNADOS!”

Oh god, we were freaking out over Typhoons and shit and out comes the fucking old ground pounders.

Sukhoi called it, nice one.

Which means they just used up a large chunk (all?) of their BVR weaponry on strike fighters...

>>8789937
Might be old, but it's fast, and can cripple an airfield, maybe all the transports on the ground as well.

Credible threat, to the overall objective.

>The Tornado is cleared to carry almost all the air-launched weapons in the NATO inventory, including cluster bombs, anti-runway munitions, and nuclear weapons. Ground attack aircraft also have a limited air-to-air capability with Sidewinder or ASRAAM AAMs, and the ADV variant can lauch long range AAMs such as AMRAAM.

So if they're the strike variant, they do not, in fact, have AMRAAM/medium range missile capacity. Sukhoi is correct!

>>8789948
Wouldn't that also mean that the brits are now weapons hot on OP's wing?

It may not have been the airial assfuckery of Typhoons but those tornados now give the rest of the force a clear bill to launch some AMRAAM love OP's way.

>>8789937

If the RAF is gonna send Tornadoes from Ascension, I'm sure they're sending Typhoons as well.

This may have been a very ice cold maneuver by the Brits to get OpFor to play their cards.

>>8789958
Credible to the ground assets, but not to a pair of fighters armed for bear a decent distance from the runway.

Not sure what Steve's doing here.

I believe OP's flight just raped the SEAD force.

Now it's the Harriers turn. Wikipedia says the latest and greatest Sea Harrier can carry and launch the AMRAAM, so perhaps they expect those to fare for themselves.

I have two questions for OP: Do you guys role play before and after the missions, or is the game pretty much buying stuff and then flying?

Why don't you become a tripfag (at least temporarily) so we know when it's truly you?

>>8789974
Based on the info op has given, (which is pretty good for describing an air battle!) I don't think the other package is carrying any BVR stuff. The Tornados were the curveball, had they concentrated on the (most likely) Harriers up north, the Nados would be doing a high speed run in on the airfield.

Kudos to Steve for placing the ships where he did, since it basically kept OP from closing on the Harriers, and making the Tornados a more appealing target. That's how you GM. It's not a railroad, it's subtle manipulation, sweet sweet manipulation.

>>8790010
It also says: >the Sea Harrier was withdrawn from Royal Navy service in March 2006

>>8790004
>>8790010

I think it might've been a cold-blooded feint/lure.

Send the Tornadoes in, see if the OpFor opens up on them. If they do they not only reveal themselves and allow the RAF to shoot back BVR, but they use up a lot of their BVR missile capacity.

>>8790040
sea harrier was withdrawn, and the Harrier GR9 replaced it.

>>8790040

We're still using the Harrier GR9.

>>8790049
Awesome pic!

>>8790040

Eh? No shit? I didn't even check, I thought the Sea Harrier was still in service. Let's see...

>IUnlike the Harrier AV8B+ upgrade, the RAF have not installed a radar into its aircraft, although the aircraft retains an Inertial Navigation System. The primary air-to-air missile (AAM) of the Harrier is the infrared-homing AIM-9 Sidewinder (the combination of Harrier and Sidewinder proved effective against Argentinian Mirages in the Falklands conflict), but it does not carry the medium range AIM-120 AMRAAM missile.

You know, I really have no idea what the fuck the British are thinking over there.

>>8790073
>Missiles: 6× AIM-9 Sidewinders; or 6× AIM-132 ASRAAM air-to-air missiles or 4× AGM-65 Maverick or 6× Brimstone air-to-ground missiles

That's no BVR air to air capability. But at the same time OP's running low on BVR weapons themselves

>>8790049
Let's not kid ourselves. There is no way, in modern air combat, that op has a hope in hell of knocking out the entire force. They just can't carry enough firepower. Based on reliability, you're going to want two missiles on every enemy at a minimum. Maybe less in a dogfight, but in BVR, two is the minimum.

The way this is shaping up, OP and crew are just damage control, trying to limit just how much damage the British are going to inflict on the airfield.

>>8790049
Very cold-blooded coming from Western society.

You think those pilots were told about their role? I think Steve is a bit too much of a heartless bastard for this.

>>8790112
That's pretty much impossible to do. As soon as the British get visual, cruise missile is on its way.

>>8790090
I live in the highlands of scotland.
I've seen tornados at that distance, and from that angle, when they're flying through the valleys.

They have a habit of using trains down to Edinburgh for practice bombing runs, too...

and lets just say you do not want to be walking over the saddle of a hillside when you hear what sounds like a little thunder, and a Tornado comes overhead on full afterburner, less than 50 feet above you, closely followed by a pair of dutch F-16s, one of which was inverted.
I looked up into the cockpit for a second.

will never forget that. the sight, or the noise....

>>8790112
Considering the mercs are cutting and running I don't think they really give two shits about the airfield. Of course the brits probably don't know that.

>>8790112

>The way this is shaping up, OP and crew are just damage control, trying to limit just how much damage the British are going to inflict on the airfield.

All they really have to do is keep one of the transports from eating a missile on climb-out, or a cluster bomb on takeoff roll.

I.E. make a hell of a mess.

>>8790119

Its just my guess. Sending a flight of strike fighters rushing ahead like that just feels wrong.

>>8790146
That is fucking awesome.

I wish the warthogs I see from time to time would do shit like that.

>>8790112

Of course this is going to have ramifications as it is. Never mind anything else the Brits's might lose to come, 4 tornados downed is going to make them even more of an enemy of her majesty that they were already. They're going to hunt you down OP.

And sooner or later. They'll send typhoons. Or pull some favours from the US for some Raptor support.

>>8790104
>You know, I really have no idea what the fuck the British are thinking over there.

we have no idea what we're thinking either.
its effectively a gap before the f35 and the Queen Elizabeth class carriers come online in a few years. if Broon does'nt fuck it all up first.

Op again
The second IL-76 climbed off Kitona, heading away from us and the developing air war. The Tornados must have spotted Scotch and Biscuit, since they popped a few flares as they kept pushing hard toward the airfield, getting low and very fast. Scotch got a lock and let loose a sidewinder, but Biscuit didn't get anything on the two he tried to launch, failing both rolls (followed by much swearing). Scotch's missile raced after the Tornado, and locked on to the afterburners, detonating aft. The Tornado continued on, trailing some black smoke, and quickly exiting sidewinder engagement range. Scotch and Biscuit were fucking furious, going to full burner and climbing to meet us. The Tornado's were a lost cause now.

>>8790104
No shit, in AFG they're running them without even the 30mm ADEN gun pods.

>On one occasion, a Parachute Regiment major commanding an isolated outpost described the Harrier's gun-less air support as "utterly, utterly useless".

>>8790199
Mmm.

Scotch and biscuits.

Scotch biscuits.

Shortbread.

I like shortbread.

>>8790199

>The Tornado's were a lost cause now.

FUCK

FUCK

FUCK

THEY'RE GOING FOR THE TRANSPORTS

>>8790199
FUCK. That's four angry british gentlemen on their way to say hi to your runway at mach 2.

>>8790211

>running them without even the 30mm ADEN gun pods.

For the love of....

>>8790146
LOL! I'm a Scotfag too. Always mind-blowing to see an attack jet from above!

>>8790268
So, do the Scottish Tornadoes wear kilts?

>>8790199
>The Tornado's were a lost cause now.

There goes the runway.

In this situation, the last thing you want to do is eject if your plane's on the verge of going up in flames.

That'll just end up in getting you captured by Military Intelligence.

>>8790188

Both carriers are being built as we speak and the orders for the f-35's are in. Brown couldn't fuck them up if he tried. Not without a major diplomatic incident and alienating most of scotland where all the carrier jobs are. Even Cameron can't do much. I expect we'll lose a few ships from the surface fleet when the cuts come in though, probably from the new Class 2 FSC's BAE just won the contract for and maybe a reduction in a few Astute Class subs scheduled to be built.

>>8790154
And they have what, 2 out of 7 planes in the air, with Tornadoes coming in for a run?

Yeh...

>>8790244

courage, lad, remember OP said the more experienced (i.e. non-expendable) flights were escorting the outgoing transports. They might have defenses yet.

Worry about the runway.

>>8790268
eyup there.

nowadays its mostly tornadoes from Lossiemouth, but occasional typhoons, and of course nimrods too.

>>8790275
Yes, but they fly much too low to see if they have anything on underneath.

>>8789917

You know what would have helped keep some of the heat off those transports? Some AA

>>8790324
Want to know what would get needlessly turned into scrap when the cruise missiles hit in 15 minutes? the AA.

>>8790287
>Brown couldn't fuck them up if he tried

never underestimate the ability of politicians to wreck an otherwise simple job... the Queensferry Cyclops is no different from the rest in that respect, and he probably could shaft it over somehow.

At least he's better than My Little Tony.

This is better than the movies.

>>8790324

I betcha they're not after the airborne transports. They're after the runway. 5 transports still on the ground.

>>8790287

>England getting F-35 Lightning IIs and new carriers to put them on

This pleases me.

op again
Sandy provided a last line of defence, lighting up his radar, and having one of his Jammer pods imitate a SAM launch, which caused both Tornados to pull hard south, dumping chaff. Steve made a few rolls, and then told us, that as the Tornado's pulled away, the one trailing smoke suddenly began to pour smoke from one of it's engines, and panels were blowing away, flames pushing out from the damaged engine. He told Scotch that as he looked over, the plane burped flamed, then disintegrated into a Mach 2+ fireball, before crashing into the Atlantic. The other Tornado began a slow turn, heading towards the airfield again, but at least we'd delayed it, it would arrive at the same time as the Harriers now. We were told that a C-27J was pushing into the air off the field. Biscuit Scotch joined up behind Hugs and me by a bunch of miles. The four targets between us and the main force began closing on us, turning slightly to try to keep us away from the strike formation. We looked at the distances and hatched a quick plan, and then went to full military burner, racing headfirst at the defensive patrol. We all hit our Radars, figuring we may as well try to scare the shit out of them.

>>8790343

Better AA then transports.

>>8790363

>mostly undamaged runway

Now there's a shitty bombing run for you.

They might have a chance. Only two Tornados are left, and one took a knock from a Sidewinder proximity burst. If they're using iron bombs rather then Durandals, they might yet blow their rolls, especially the damaged one.

Also, where did you all get the figure of ten transports?

>>8790305
Tornadoes are pretty common, I've never see a Typhoon in the wild. Saw a Buccaneer when I was a kid, those things were LOUD!!!

>>8790368
Does Sandy get credit for that one, or is it an unclaimed incidental?

>>8790365

It's a nice feeling actually having some decent stuff for once. To be fair the Navy's actually done pretty well for itself in the past decade or so. The Type-45 is awesome, as is the Astute subs. The QEII carriers should transform our Force projection capabilities by an order of magnitude. Shame the Army hasn't seen quite as much of the love.

>>8790363
obviously.

JP233 runway cratering submunitions. deny the opposing force its landing point, if an escape route is unknown.

will likely have satellite imaging of the exact details of the entire airbase and what to neutralise. a burning transport on the ramp will just help further.

>Sandy provided a last line of defence, lighting up his radar, and having one of his Jammer pods imitate a SAM launch, which caused both Tornados to pull hard south,

BRILLIANT

>>8790346
He's not better at being good than TB, he's just not as good as being bad.

>>8790467
Hell, there is even a chance the surviving Tornado'll think a missile did in his buddy instead of earlier damage. Dunno how close they were together or how likely that is though.

>>8790368
SAM launch from where? One of the ships offshore?

>>8790498

more then that, this Tornado pilot just had his whole flight totally wiped out and he's still making for his target? Balls of steel on those Brits, man, balls of steel.

>>8790464

>nice to have decent stuff

Isn't it just, for a change?

>>8790411
>Now there's a shitty bombing run for you.

actually that "shitty bombing run" of Black Buck 1 cleanly cut the runway in half, preventing its use by argentine fast jets, forcing the pull-back of jets to argentine mainland, a move which prevented the jets having loiter time over the falklands, which handed the Royal Navy Harriers complete air superiority, and won the war. it also conveniently kept the runway usable for Hercules transports when the Royal Marines retook Stanley not long after.


which rather goes to indicate you need to do better research.

>>8790489
God, he gave us a real scare last year.

We all thought he was gone for good, then suddenly, candidate for EU President.

It was as if a million voices screamed "NO! WE THOUGHT YOU WERE GONE! GET THE FUCK OFF OF OUR TELEVISION SCREENS, YOU PROFESSIONAL TROLL!" at the top of their lungs.

>>Sandy provided a last line of defence, lighting up his radar, and having one of his Jammer pods imitate a SAM launch, which caused both Tornados to pull hard south,

Heh. "When i'm good, i'm very..Very good. But when i'm bad? I'm Better."

>>8790529

The Brits likely have no idea exactly what OpFor has on hand. Plus I think the Mercs are over land, so they probably assumed it was an SA-2 or similar.

>>8790568
I keep thinking that the brits informant got the news out to them rather than getting killed. Makes sense now.

OP again
We all broke the sound Barrier, although I will admit that Hugs was kicking the crap out of our tubs, blasting forward like some angry goose necked harbinger of death. He dumped his last two Alamo's at 50 miles, which gave them a pretty good energy boost from his own aircraft's speed. The rest of us were pushing up in speed, and I will admit, the distance I covered in a phase was pretty awesome, I had not had the Phantom up this fast ever before, and even on the table top I was thinking “For a 40 year old plane, this thing can haul ass!” I pumped off my AMRAAMs as I crossed the 25 mile line, with Hugs about 5 miles ahead of me. His two Alamos impacted, wiping out one of the Harriers (Made his spot check). Well, one of them missed, but the other didn't. My AMRAAMs came down, also knocking out one of the Harrier's, this one turning towards Hugs. Hugs roared through the formation at Mach 1.7ish, and asked Steve something. Steve was moving both remaining harriers in an impossibly tight maneuver, apparently they had slowed, using vectored thrust to help pivot to slap into a rear aspect shot on the Flanker. Both of them launched, Hugs pumping out flares, and cut burners. And then Hugs told Steve he was using his hemet reticule to launch an archer. So, flying through a loose formation of Harriers in a Flanker at almost double the speed of sound, Hugs launched a missile sideways off the rail towards one of the offending Harriers.

>>8790559

Actually I would have loved him to be President. If only to see the look on Brown's face. He might actually have made Europe a little better as well despite being a twat.

So when OP makes an ass out of the British will the rest of NATO step in to pull their ass out of the fire or will OP's merc company just start getting in piles of high paying offers from assorted countries who want people who can play ball with a 1st world airforce?

>>8790629

>flying through a loose formation of Harriers in a Flanker at almost double the speed of sound, Hugs launched a missile sideways off the rail towards one of the offending Harriers.

Screw it if he hits or not. Hugs Win

>>8790629
>So, flying through a loose formation of Harriers in a Flanker at almost double the speed of sound, Hugs launched a missile sideways off the rail towards one of the offending Harriers.

o.0

>>8790552

Looks to me like half the runway is a straight shot with no craters on it (that is to say, half of the runway the long way, so the entire length of it can be used.) Now I'm not quite sure of the scale, but judging from the road and other things, it doesn't look like that runway is so narrow that a fighter'd need the whole width of it to take off (landing would be a dicier matter, naturally.)

As for research, well, I'm not a Bomb Damage Assessment expert, but assuming that I don't know all the details of the Falkands war off the top of my head (as most people who don't live in England do,) why am I expected to do RESEARCH before commenting on a picture on fucking 4chan?

>>8790629
How?

Why didnt the Harriers shoot back

>>8790757
who the fuck knows.

>>40 year old plane
Make that 50
>So, flying through a loose formation of Harriers in a Flanker at almost double the speed of sound, Hugs launched a missile sideways off the rail towards one of the offending Harriers.
Fuck yeah. This is what Flankers were MADE FOR!

>>8790629
OP again
Another C-27J took off the runway at Kitona, the remaining Tornado quickly closing on the base. Hugs archer missed, but the follow up from Biscuit did not. The rest of us couldn't get locks, so we dumped flares and roared past the three flaming harriers falling towards the Atlantic, the fourth shooting, but missing at Scotch. Our momentum, like the Tornados, was an advantage. We were cutting into our fuel, but we had a lot, and now the other Air to Air Harrier was in a tail chase towards us, and it wouldn't win. We were now banging away with our Radar, despite having nothing BVR to shoot. The strike force accelerated a bit, but not much, but descending down below the clouds near the coast. We'd have a very short time after intercept until they were over the base.

>My AMRAAMs came down, also knocking out one of the Harrier's, this one turning towards Hugs. Hugs roared through the formation at Mach 1.7ish, and asked Steve something. Steve was moving both remaining harriers in an impossibly tight maneuver, apparently they had slowed, using vectored thrust to help pivot to slap into a rear aspect shot on the Flanker. Both of them launched, Hugs pumping out flares, and cut burners. And then Hugs told Steve he was using his hemet reticule to launch an archer. So, flying through a loose formation of Harriers in a Flanker at almost double the speed of sound, Hugs launched a missile sideways off the rail towards one of the offending Harriers.

I... I don't even...

>>8790629

Now thats what I call getting stuck in.

>>8790757
They did. He said they both launched. He flared and used burners.

>>8790794
using burners against heatseekers does not seem to me to be the best idea in the world.

>Steve was moving both remaining harriers in an impossibly tight maneuver, apparently they had slowed, using vectored thrust to help pivot to slap into a rear aspect shot on the Flanker.

Steve really does know his shit.

>>8790629
I, I think I.. I think I love Hugs...

>>8790740
>>8790757
>>8790764


sadly, my respect for steve's just dropped a few notches. It appears this is the Lobotomy Air Force, not the Fleet Air Arm.

>>8790821
Maybe he's taking it easy on them or trying to lull them into a false sense of security?

The last two missions were a bit of a kick in the nuts after all.

>>8790821
>>8790837
see
>>8790794

>>8790821
Maybe he's more concerned with running a fuckawesome game than with being 100% accurate in the process.

>>8790821
They did shoot back, but they were at a disadvantage, supersonic aircraft, all four air superiority, vs an aging strike aircraft with heatseekers. OP's group apparently didn't take the bait, and is just blasting through, towards the main force, trusting their speed is going to keep them safe from whatever remaining Harriers exist from the 'air superiority' section.

>>8790794
No, he flared and CUT burners.

>>8790870
He's also going babies on them.

The Liberian escort mission was riskier than this is.

>>8790870

I'm a little concerned that he might be going a little easy on them though given the scenario. Too much rule of cool ruins the atmosphere. Lets wait and see what happens.

>>8790875

They're going to hit those harriers at Mach 2 like the FIST OF AN ANGRY GOD. Then they'll haul ass, turn around, and come in for another go.

Bag'n'drag.

This is easily the most intense mission yet.

>>8790861

>implying all the Harriers fired as OP's group came in and didnt wait until you could smell the aftershave

>>8790875
Bursting through at supersonic speeds against enemies armed with heatseekers and giving them a sexy rear-aspect shot is just asking for one up the pipe.

Steve is going easy mode I think.

>>8790870

There's 14 harriers and your telling me only two got a shot off.

>>8790898
>>8790886

From the previous threads, right about now is when the players get their kick in the nuts.

Cruise missile, anyone?

Y'know, the British aren't really dumb, here. For starters, they only had Harrier assets in the area, and those same assets performed just fine in the Falklands. They had no reason to expect a Merc group to be better equipped. Perhaps they should know about Black Flag, or perhaps intel dropped the ball. Or perhaps the Tornadoes were supposed to nail the runway before any interceptors could get wheels-up, and Black Flag wasn't supposed to know about the goddamn carrier being in the area at all, but OH HAY they paid somebody off in a high place.

>>8790837
Argentine Airforce vs Harriers. 0 kills. Iraqi Airforce Vs Tornado, Baccaneer, Jaguar... 0kills.
5 mercs in 50-year old airframes, 1 engagement... how many tornado and harriers down?

hrmmmm.

there's suspension of disbelief, and then there's just plain unlikely. and we're well into the realms of silly there. and while I may well sit with ones tea and crumpet in horror old chaps, before the "butthurt" comments fly, I would argue exactly the same if it were the french, itallian, german, US, or similar first-world airforces...

>>8790912
Rear aspect on a Mach 2 is a tough shot, especially if the launch platform is slow, since the missile needs to first match, then catch the target's speed. The rocket will burn out, and then it *might* have enough speed to maintain closure.

I'm not saying that breaking through the line was smart, but compared to slowing and going sub sonic against Harriers in a turning fight, probably the best choice.

>>8790920

Six Harriers were flying a Barrier Combat Air Patrol between OP's flight and the other Harriers, the strike craft. A few of those six got nailed by BVR missiles before they could even fight back. The remainder took tail-chase shots.

Read the fucking thread.

>>8790943
To be fair, the Iraqi Air Force was utter rubbish. Same can't be said for all their pre-OIF assets, but their pilot training was quite subpar.

Why the fuck haven't those Harriers blaster your ass out of the sky. What is preventing them from doing the same thing you did to the Tornados? Shoudn't they have lit you up a long time ago?

GOD DAMN THIS SHIT IS EASY MODE!

>>8790837

Turns out the British weren't actually here to kill the OP's squadron, but to put on a charity airshow for the victims of Pointe Noire. The harriers were reacting slowly because they were giving free rides to the orphans of the OP's previous atrocities.

>replace Harriers with Spitfires
>2 of OP's flight shot down

Just as planned.

>>8790970
I'm going to go with: Harrier is an aging strike platform that doesn't do any job particularly well.

>>8790943

>flight of air-superiority fighters using brand-new, up-to-date air-to-air missiles engaging strike aircraft, many of them sub-sonic, with no radar-guided missiles

>flight of six tornadoes takes TEN MISSILES and two manage to survive, as is fitting for planes with modern ECM systems

Wow thought i'd missed this!

Awesome off bore shot Hugs! Didn't know he had the capability yet. This is going better than I thought it would after the numbers Steve threw at them...but then they're only now getting fired at so it could turn around REAL fast.

>>8790943
slight edit. had a brainfart - entire iraqi airforce, 2 tornado losses.

(a good few damaged and ditched from ground-launched of course, but not A2A)

So after firing at the Tornadoes and Harriers how many missles are left?

>flying through a loose formation of Harriers in a Flanker at almost double the speed of sound, Hugs launched a missile sideways off the rail towards one of the offending Harriers.

>>8790943
>>8790920
>>8790970

Please refer to this image to understand why the Harriers are getting screwed.

>>8790991
Yeah, but if the Harrier is an "aging" plane, what deprecating descriptive that excuses pathetic performance are you going to apply to the OP's squadron of antiques?

>>8790970
They don't have the capability to carry BVR armaments.

The british obviously knew about OP's former exploits so they should have been expecting stiffer resistance and maybe waited until they could bring in a few wings of Typhoons for air cover or maybe dragged the U.S. in and got some raptors on scene. The only reason this isn't a slaughter the other way around is that the brits dropped the intel ball off a fucking cliff.

I'm not saying that it detracts from the recounting of the sortie, but it makes it feel less like the previous missions where Steve master-tier-trolled the OP's wing with much less.

op again
Sandy angled towards the base, lighting off his own cans and going to maximum sweep. We approached the main strike package, but were not going to have much time to do anything, and there was still a lot of aircraft on the ground, despite the AN-22 getting into the air. We were then told that Bird Dog was bugging out, but that a gift was on the way. We had no clue what that meant, all we knew for certain was that our AWAACs was leaving us, so it was our own eyeballs. We dropped below the clouds, emerging into the darker lower altitudes below, our plains pelted by rain as we came off the burners, still on our supersonic intercept towards the mass of what we assumed were Harriers closing on the base. And then the lone Tornado made its run.

>>8791027
Actually now that OP is out of BVR missiles it's about the same. But they still have a massive speed advantage over the subsonic harriers, and the strike harriers are plain fucked.

>>8791049
The SU-27 is still pretty hot shit, even if the phatoms and the Viggen aren't so much.

>>8791049

Modifications. She can do 0.5 past Mach 3. She might not look like much but she's got it where it counts. Lots of special modifications.

>>8791067

what happened to the Harriers

>>8791087
When did they get their hands on a blackbird or mig-31?

>what we assumed were Harriers closing on the base

oh...shit...

>>8791067

A gift?

Here comes the Cavalry.

>>8791049
Flanker, Phantom 2000s, Aardvark. No Antiques there. They all benefit from being more specialized then the Harrier, which, due to its jack of all trades master of none philosophy tends to be inferior in every aspect.

I honestly don't care though, this would have been a fucking sweet game to play. "DAMN THE SIDEWINDERS! FULL BURNER AHEAD!"

>>And then the lone Tornado made its run.

Crap on a stick

>>8791099

Didn't a MiG-25 do Mach 3+ over Egypt once but barely landed, having slagged the engine completely?

>>8791110

A set up maybe.

>>and there was still a lot of aircraft on the ground, despite the AN-22 getting into the air
>>AN-22 COCK
>>and there was still a lot of aircraft on the ground, despite the Cock getting into the air

SO TO SPEAK

>>8791087

AND THE RIO IS A WOOKIE

>>8791118
>Aardvark
>18 July 1967
>Not aging
well 3 out of 5 ain't terrible.

>And then the lone tornado made it's run

And you guys doubted Steve. You doubted.

>>8791130
That's what happened to MIG-25 engines whenever they pushed them. Things were pieces of shit, fast pieces of shit though.

>>8791095

dissapeared due to plot, and the missles they fired

>>8791095
OP burned past their screen at mach2+ getting out of sidewinder range before they could shove some up their asses and outrunning the slower than molasses harriers quick as you please.

>>8791099
:-\

>>8791153

Ayup. Once you spun them up over a certain point, they'd start throwing fan blades and literally tear themselves apart. The Soviets simply didn't have the metallurgy to match the power output.

>>8791118
Flanker desinged, 1970's, first flight 1977. 33 years old
Phantom 2000 - basic airframe designed in 1950's, fist flet in 1958. 52 years old. 2000 upgrade designed in the early 1980's, demonstrated in 1987. 23 years old.
F111 first flew, 1964. 46 years old.

antiques.

>>8791206
They still managed to scare the piss out of NATO though. Until they got their hands on one and did a continent wide facepalm.

>>8791221
Most combat aircraft except a few of the generation 4.5+ers are at least 20 odd years old. Everything's an antique.

OP again

The Tornado passed low over the base, having slowed to make it's attack run. The canisters on it's wings flew open, and it flew the length of the runway, dispensing runway cratering munitions, and in the process wiping out the C-27 on it's takeoff roll, first by popping off a wing, and then the flaming craft dropped into a crater and rolled, tossing men and equipment into the air as it completed its flaming death throes. The Tornado began climbing, chasing after the large AN-22 that was slowly climbing out. We on the other hand, were just entering attack range, when three harriers almost stopped in mid air, disappearing behind Hugs and me in a blur of navy gray. Hugs couldn't get a lock, and I didn't have the aspect to do so, I did have a shot ahead of me, so I launched a sidewinder, switched targets, and launched another one. Both planes jinked, dumping flares, and whatever ordnance they were carrying. Small victory I suppose, and then both my missiles missed. Hugs meanwhile was cartwheeling sideways through the air, trying to manage speed so that he could get a lock on the Harrier's behind him. Then they launched.

>>8791221
by your logic then both of the US's primary aircraft are antiques as well. F15 and F16 are just as old as the Sukhoi.

>>8791221

Harrier jump jet- introduced 1969

>>8791067
>gift was on the way
>AWAACs was leaving us,
>we found out that the Midas and Bird Dog were being escorted by some of Blackwood's Hussars

Incoming backup.

>>8791232

>Then they launched.

DON'T STOP THERE DON'T STOP THERE DON'T FUCKING STOP THERE AAAAURRGH

>>8791232
This is what it should've been like all the way through. You should've been crushed from the start.

>>8791237
Hence them getting replaced.

>>8791232

I think your making half this shit up

>>8791238
Harrier GR9 was introduced into service in 2006. It's a goddamn baby.

>>8791264
What fun would that have been? These are mercenaries, fighting against the odds. Op isn't winning, not if my aircraft count is right. They're going to have to slow, and the Harrier is going to come into its element.

>>8791221
>>8791237
By his definition, the F-22 is practically an antique, at 20 years old.
Brotip: planes are designed to last a long time, gradually improving capability through upgrades and overhauls. Old does not mean antique.

>>8791279
Agreed.

Everyone who thinks that this is just a pile of bullshit fabrication, say aye.

>>wiping out the C-27 on it's takeoff roll
>>Then they launched.

Yep...things just took a turn for the worst. And that "Gift" is probably a company missile up the tail pipe for each of you.

>>8791264

agreed.

>>8791298
Liquidating assets was never so much fun!

>>8791283
It's supposed to be realistic.

This should've been a fighting retreat, not a CHAAARGE

>>8791281
Doesn't matter, it's an incremental upgrade on the aircraft, mostly avionics. And it's still a shit aircraft. Ask any fighter pilot if he'd rather be in a Phantom or a Harrier in an Air to Air engagement. Or a Flanker. Or a Viper. None will choose the Harrier.

>>8791291
I don't give a fuck, it is sweet anyway.

>>8791309
I think that's what Steve expected before they took off like a bat out of hell after the tornadoes.

>>8791267

>Harrier GR9

Oh, oh, you want to use THE LATEST UPGRADE of that fighter? Gee, okay, then, let's use that for the rest of them:

Phantom 2000- upgraded in 2000
Su-27- upgraded in 2006
Viggen, final interceptor variant entered service in 1980

So yeah, you need to shut the fuck up.

>>8791309
Given that they are the "fighting" part and that the "retreat" part is still very vulnerable on the ground I think they are acting pretty correct here.

>>8791225

"Wow, these things output slightly more thrust than we thought they di-SWEET JESUS IT'S SPRAYING FIRE AND SHRAPNEL SHUT IT THE FUCK DOWN!!"

>>8791322
considering it's the only harrier in service in the Royal Navy I'm pretty sure it's a fair comparison.

>>8791325

I'm not saying what they've done has been wrong. Just that combat screen of harrier should have been alot more aggressive than they were.

>>8791309
Best offense is a good defense. You want to knock the planes out of the sky before they get to the field. The british objective is knocking out that field, and whatever is there. OP and company just want to get out of there with as much equipment as possible intact. Racing out to meet the inbounds makes sense, why let them take out the full airfield and then engage?

>>8791264
>>8791279
>>8791291
>>8791306
>>8791309

Doing good there for a while, champ, but you got a little too obvious just now. Jolly good try.

Posts hidden, moving on.

>>8791291
We've already discussed that this could be the best trolling from /k/ ever.

It was decided that nobody gives a fuck if it is or isn't because this is awesome.

Also, too many little details have added up in OP's story for me to think it false. Conversely, the BS Grendel campaign story had pretty obvious flaws in its telling if you were looking for them.

>>8791322
I'm pretty sure Hugs isn't using the latest Flanker.
If he was, he'd be raping the shit out of everything, and outmaneuvering even those Harriers.
More than he is already, I mean.

>>8791359
>the BS Grendel campaign story
I don't believe I'm familiar with this.

>>8791354

5/10

>>8791333
Awesome!!!

>>8791322
>Oh, oh, you want to use THE LATEST UPGRADE of that fighter? Gee, okay, then, let's use that for the rest of them:

the latest upgrades from the military forces using them...
not the mercenary forces who were selecting their equipment on a budget a dozen flights ago.

what you're trying to say is that if I go out and buy a couple of old GT Ferraris or GT2 Dodge Vipers and get people to jump into them, they'll run as fast, and more significantly, as reliably and consistently as the Works factory cars...

no hope.

>>8791372
wait nevermind, that was the lolsuperpowered dark heresy thing, right?

>>8791354

bawww less, read more

>>8791385

The variants of the aircraft our Merc players are using have been specifically mentioned, which is how we know OP is flying a Phantom 2000.

>>8791385
Cars aren't really a good comparison here because collector cars will often run better than their factory counterparts.

Now if you had said honda civics or some other cheap POS you might have had a good analogy. But I'm just nitpicking.

>>8791388
Yeah. Chances are that Grendel actually did manage to defeat the Charnel Daemon in one-on-one combat - but everything after that was clearly bullshit or GM fiat.

>>8791346

>Just that combat screen of harrier should have been alot more aggressive than they were.

This. GM obviously removed the firing button from the yoke.

>>8791372
Check sup/tg/, it was a "campaign story" about a Dark Heresy character who was fat, smart, and not combat prone, but "somehow" rolled extremely well whenever it mattered. Ridiculously well. So that he singlehandedly killed things way beyond his ability to. The first story bit wasn't unbelievable, just a random bit of awesome obscenely high luck; but as the stories kept rolling in it became obvious that it was made up.

I think it got incorporated into a GW product somehow. That thread was also archived.

OP again,
I took a near hit, my hydraulic pressure dipping immediately. I checked the engine gauges, punched into burner, and climbed out of there. Hugs was still trying to get a lock, finally getting one, launching an archer, but yet again the damn thing missed. Luckily Scotch and Biscuit came in, both launching two missiles, ripping one Harrier apart, before zooming by towards the rest of the force. The Tornado was closing on the AN-22, and also launched two sidewinders, one going wide but the other impacting the cargo harrier, setting an engine on fire quite badly. Sandman roared in from behind, having finally caught up, in a supersonic gun pass, stitching rounds across the sky, and hitting the Tornado. He saw some smoke and an ejection. Unfortunately, based on his angle, a few stray shells hit the antonov hull, causing some more damage, but nothing too serious luckily. Figuring he's be less than useless in a dogfight with Harriers, Sandy burner climbed, ECM still pumping out, although since everything was degenerating into a dogfight it seemed pointless.

>>8791427
Again, read the thread, the Harriers were taken out BVR, and then the remaining ones fired when they could.

That Tornado pilot had balls of steel. I salute him.

>The Tornado was closing on the AN-22, and also launched two sidewinders, one going wide but the other impacting the cargo harrier, setting an engine on fire quite badly

GOD DAMN IT

>>8791354
These threads were better without the dumb troll.

>>8791490
Hooray, hooray, what a wonderful day, for the PCs are invincible.

>>8791506

Heads up!

>>8791509
And he managed to punch out, which I think is excellent.

>>8791533
What're the odds he was flipping off Sandy the whole way down?

Infinite missle code on?

>>8791528
No series of threads can go this long without getting troll attention. It's amazing they've stayed as troll-free as they have so far.

>>8791509

>That tornado pilot had balls of steel

Completes his goddamned attack run after having the entire rest of his flight get pasted, nails the runway, and even gets a sidewinder off at an escaping transport? Jolly goddamn good, ol chap!

>>8791533
He managed to punch out in a zone that is twelve minutes from being hit by a cruise missile.

So how many transports got out? 3? 4? When there were 9 or so aircraft that were supposed to evac the base? And now the runway's cratered and unusable.

not good numbers.

>>8791509

judging from what ive seen of him. that guy is going to land, walk/swim back to GB, grab a typhoon and hunt down OP's flight group.

>>8791547

The other threads have been awesome. This... hasn't.

>>8791569
I think 4 are in the air but one took engine damage and may or may not make it.

>supersonic gun pass

xD

>>8791569

Well The Company at least likely put the most valuable shit in the first few transports.

>>8791569

Actually I thought a few transports had gotten away even before OP's flight picked up hostiles. And where did he say there were ten transports to get away, anyways? I thought it was more like four or five.

>>8791490

You really are making this up arent you

>>8791568
Motherfucker's got legs, or maybe he can land his shute in the drink and wait for some CSAR.

>>8791592
>>8791580

still...not a good day for the company if they've gotta leave behind over half the evac force.

>>8791509
DFC for that guy.

>>8791490
This is either not the OP or his shit's falling apart.

Dammit, I give up. 5:30 am. Heading to sleep. This thread better be here when I wake up!

>>8791592

See

>>8788092

>We were told that the final personnel were now on their way to the waiting aircraft.

The planes now taking off are the last ones. Presumably most of the merc force is already safely out of dodge.

>>8791601
4 C-27J
2 AN-12
2 IL-76
1 AN-22

So 9 total.

>>8790119

I think we're misinterpreting those Tornados. My guess is that the brits didn't epect aerial threats and that the Tornados were going for SEAD. Any bets that the last sattelite pass from the brits was just before the AA guns were packed up? :3

>>8791653
>didn't expect aerial threats
>mercenary airstrip

lolno

>>8791574
>The other threads have been awesome. This... hasn't.

seconded.
its just gone from awesome to "completely pants on head retarded".
the tornado crew, on bieng picked up, will not simply be getting into typhoons to hunt them down... they'll be in the inquiry trying to explain why the RAF and fleet arm crews were replaced with exchange pilots from Turkmenistan.

>>8791681
I still think that it's Steve being a little more forgiving than normal. Maybe he sensed that OP's group wasn't feeling too good after the last two clusterfucks and wanted to let them feel heroic.

Or maybe OP's just making shit up. How the fuck should I know.

OP again
Hugs finally had turned, just in time to see two sidewinders closing on him. He took a direct hit, which blew off a chunk of his tail and wrecked one of his engines. His return fire silenced the Harrier though. He also disengaged, climbing to meet me above the clouds. Biscuit and Scotch were now engaged, until their sidewinders ran dry. They took out one more Harrier, but the rest were getting through, and Biscuit paid for it, getting into a turning fight with one of the British pilots, and losing, suffering a heavy hit that almost smashed his aircraft out of the sky, and sending shrapnel through him and his backseater, killing the backseater. There really was no winning at this point, Scotch was fine, but heading back into that pack was murder. The gift didn't help, four Phoenix missiles arrived on scene, and missed every single Harrier they were aimed at. The harriers overflew the base, dumping there iron and cluster bombs, obliterating the remaining aircraft on the ground, the hangars, barracks, fuel dump. We climbed out, hoping that they wouldn't pursue, since we no longer had a speed advantage. They didn't seem interested in us, so we tailed the AN-22, noting that the fires had been extinguished, making sure none of the UK jets continued at us. We learned a big lesson, going toe to toe with superior numbers in a dogfight is a bad idea.

>>8791703
Who cares?
Though to be honest, I was hoping for more of a blaze of glory against Typhoons.

>>8791703

Maybe we should just have the OP ask Steve why they had such an easy time with this mission?

>>8791723

Welp. I'd say it was a modest success.

>>8791723
>Biscuit paid for it, getting into a turning fight with one of the British pilots, and losing, suffering a heavy hit that almost smashed his aircraft out of the sky, and sending shrapnel through him and his backseater, killing the backseater.

So how long can he fly until he passes out from blood loss?

>>8791681
>>8791574

>Britfags upset their obsolete aircraft suffered instead of being LOL INVINCIBLE!

It works both way, OPs group seems to be doing well, but that's expected in an RPG. It wasn't a fair or balanced fight in real life, so it sounds like they used their speed and BVR capability to advantage.

I don't see a problem so far.

>>8791723
Definitely made-up. You're trying to suddenly pile on the negativity because we're booing at what an easy time you're having.

>>8791723
>four Phoenix missiles arrived on scene
Where was that tomcat when you really needed him?

>>8791781
Yeah, the BVR was the equalizer here. Turkey shoot initially.

>>8791723

I like how every missle launched is a kill, but return missle hits are LOL JUST A FLESH WOUND

>>8791723
see they're luck isn't good enough to get them through this without serious set backs. Hugs and Biscuit will probably need new aircraft after this and I doubt the company will be nice enough to give them new aircraft after this clusterfuck.

>>8791785

Oh shut up, I don't care if its made up, its interesting reading.

>>8791723

>HEAVY DAMAGE TAKEN

>EVERYBODY BARELY SURVIVED

AWESOME

Even WITH your aircraft shot to hell, GOD DAMN you're lucky to have survived. Also, when you get back to base with ships shot all to hell because you dove into a FURBALL against goddamn HARRIERS, nobody can say you didn't fight as hard as humanly possible.

>>8791810
It's not interesting whatsoever.

It's some twit who is loving his touch at writing fiction.

>>8791800
op's missile strikes seem to be waves. Take the Tornados, ten missiles, four kills. And op says 'kill' doesn't mean flash of orange kablooie, the aircraft might simply disengage, mission kill.

>>8791785
Actually it flows pretty well.

OP went in hard and fast using superior speed and firepower to take out a good number of enemy strike fighters. Once they lost their BVR and speed advantage started having to maneuver the slower more nimble harriers were able to pick them apart and drive them off.

It's like driving a car into a wall, you might punch a hole in the wall but then it's going to put your steering wheel through your chest.

>>8791800

One of the Tornadoes took a missile hit and lived. So did a Mirage in an earlier mission. Besides, usually the Mercs use (and hit with) multiple missiles on a single target.

Sidewinders (and most other close-range missiles) do 1d10 damage in the game and most aircraft have 6-8 Hitpoints, perfectly reasonable they can survive a hit.

Pretty sweet OP.
Haters gonna hate.

>>8791827
He's recounting a GAME dumbass. This was not a real military engagement, because, newsflash, MERCENARY AIR FORCES DON'T FUCKING EXIST. Take your britfag butthurt elsewhere.

To everyone going
>LOL NOT REALISTIC
This is an RPG, yes it is a fairly realistic one, but it's still a game. OP's group is enjoying the game. I'm enjoying the game. A lot of other readers are enjoying the game. If you aren't enjoying the game, hide the thread.

>>8791546

Not too bad. Could just be errors in the narration.

So far, according to >>8791490, Biscuit just launched a magical extra Sidewinder. (He's launched 4 AMRAAMS and 5 Sidewinders from a loadout of 4 AMRAAM/ 4 AIM-9) He should be out of missiles now.

Hugs has launched 8 missiles, don't know what his initial load was.

Baron has 2 Sidewinders left, Scotch has 3.

>>8791785

Actually it made sense. the group dominated while they had BVR and speed on their side. as soon as it became a furball numbers and the harriers unique capabilities tore the group a new one.

>>8791800
They're the PCs, of course they're going to be more survivable.

>>8791827

I disagree with your opinion.

You obviously don't like the thread. Hide it and move on. I'm sure there is some 40k, 3Evs4E or Wakfu shit going on.

>>8791785

Got that feeling as well.

How much funds does OP's group have to repair of buy new planes?

>>8791898
probably not much since they donated their haul last time to the Cruise ship survivors

>>8791898

IIRC OP himself has roughly 30mil. He is the richest of the group. I would guess the others are around 20-25.

>>8791917
A bad idea in retrospect?

install this.

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then install this.

http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/55385

Hide trollposts. Profit!

>>8791923
INDEED.

So let's get this straight: a bunch of slow, outdated fighters armed for strike roles take on a small group of fast multirole fighters loaded out for maximal anti-air firepower.
The slow strike fighters take heavy losses, but manage to complete their mission regardless and deal some damage to the faster, heavier fighters.
I don't see what the problem is.
I mean, other than the British Navy's reliance on outmoded hardware.

>>8791940
Slow yet highly maneuverable and far from outdated, taking on five rickety antiques.

and then the dragons flew in...

about as plausible.

That Tornado pilot better get some writefaggotry love.

>>8791967
I know.

The PCs took out about twice their number, while being in a numerical disadvantage.

>>8791930

Son of a bitch, this thing is like MAGIC.

>>8791958
Rickety antiques outfitted with modern missiles made for exactly the kind of thing they're doing right now. And they used em, and now they're getting their asses handed to them.

What are you complaining about?

If I have one critique of the RAF's performance in this mission its where the fucking Typhoons were?

If they could send Tornadoes from Ascension why not send some genuine air superiority instead of relying on a few non-BVR capable Harriers?

>>8791977
Writefaggotry about him being vaporized by a cruise missile five minutes after landing?

>>8791967

STOP REMINDING ME OF WHEN I FIRST SAW THE REIGN OF FIRE POSTER AND WAS ALL FUCK YEAH APACHES DOGFIGHTING DRAGONS MUST WATCH

FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUU

>>8791958
>>flanker + 2 phantom 2000s
>>rickety antiques
Does not compute.

>>8791994
He was moving away from the airstrip when he bailed, possibly for a good while before intercepting the AN-22.

C.Missile hits aren't THAT big.


Right?

op again
As we climbed out, the Antonov told us it wouldn't make Kisangani, and was turning south towards Luanda. Hugs broke off with Biscuit to provide what cover they could, since they also planned to land in Angola. I formed up with Scotch who did a visual on me, telling me that I'd lost some control surfaces, and had some light smoke, but nothing major. We decided to head to Kisangani, and met up with the tanker. As they approached Luanda, Biscuit rolled poorly, and his remaining engine failed. He started a glide, but wasn't going to make it. He ejected over an open area, close to the main city, punching out, trying to keep the aircraft pointed away from the city. He didn't make it. His Phantom augered into the ground, followed by Biscuit tangled in a faulty parachute deployment. That REALLY sucked. Hugs rode what remained of his Flanker in to the field, sumping his munitions and fuel, and then having his leaft gear collapse on landing. His aircraft was damaged, but recoverable. Scotch, Sandy and myself landed at Kisangani with no incident.

>>8791988
I'm complaining about the PCs going up against professional military pilots who outnumbered them four to one with equal, if not superior hardware.

>>8791980
A numerical disadvantage against strike fighters equipped with bombs rather than air-to-air missiles, yeah.
I still fail to see the problem.

>>8792026

>His Phantom augered into the ground, followed by Biscuit tangled in a faulty parachute deployment. That REALLY sucked.

AWWWWW GODDDDAAAAAAAAAMMIIIIIT

>>8791958
far from outdated, and being flown, equipped and controlled by one of the top ten global airforces, whose pilots have miraculously lost all thier training, whose SIGINT Nimrod and E3 AWACs seems to have miraculously disappeared, and whose intelligence services seem to have gone on holiday for the week, and completely failed to remember that their target has those "small group of fast multirole fighters loaded out for maximal anti-air firepower"

if it were the Moroccan airforce, or the likes, as in the earlier stories, It could be amazing. instead, its simply absurdly daft.

>>8792026
BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT

>>8792026
BISCUIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>8791991

That's basically the biggest loophole.

Real-world RAF might actually do that, but we don't have "mercenary air forces" flying modern air-to-air hardware in the real world.

In-game RAF basically committed one of the worst intel fuckups since Pearl Harbor, or something. They'd be idiots NOT to expect air-to-air capability from the multiple mercenary companies they should KNOW to be operating in the area. (Since they've just been sent in to blow them the fuck up.)

It's either a case of "whoops, all our fighters happened to be 2000 miles away that Tuesday," or "HURF BLURF OLD CHAP NO NEED FOR FIGHTARS." They had no business going in without an actual fighter screen, and even if they "won" this engagement, these kinds of losses will scuttle military careers.

>>8792026

Ouch, what a way to go...

>>8792026
Biscuit... Is dead?

DAMMIT.

>>8792062
I don't believe Biscuit died either! He was in a phantom! That alone means he should be alive by virtue of the rule of cool.

>>8792026
>>8791785

lol

>>8792076

Well, if that informant hadn't been captured they would have caught the entire airbase unaware. Maybe they just got cocky.

>tangled 'chute

BULLSHIT FUCK SHIT BULLSHIT

And that's....

>>8792026

how the biscuit crumbles.

YYYEEEEAAAHHHH!!!!

>>8792026
The worst way for a fighter pilot to go: smashed into the ground by his own ejection seat.

>>8792102

This.

That's why those Tornadoes were coming in hard and fast- they were supposed to shut the runway down hard before any interceptors got wheels-up.

>>8792030
Hey dumbass, a harrier with Iron Bombs is going to lose against AMRAAMs from a distance. Everytime.

>>8792026
Piling on the negativity too thickly. It's too obviously fake.

Although, Biscuit does deserve to die, after being shot up that badly. What with all of the shrapnel in him.

>>8792026
Aw man not Biscuit...sounds like you guys will need some recovery time and maybe a redeployment to another region after this.

>>8792102
Or maybe is a fucking RPG and a game. One really can't expect too much of a realistic scenario, because then the game couldn't even happen at all. It's a god damned game and its expected that the PCs are more powerful, even in the face of foes that would rape them in real life.

So the trolls just need to kindly go fuck themselves.

>>8792061

This, especially the lack of support from co-ordinating aircraft is just bizzaire.

>>8792030
>with equal, if not superior hardware.
Harriers are not designed for air superiority, and these particular harriers lacked gun and BVR missile capacity (and radar for that matter). They were completely outmatched by that multirole J-36 and F-4's, and were complete shite compared to the Flanker.

>>8792111
>>8792124

How is it fake? The tables turned the moment the group was forced into a fight that they had no advantage in. If I'm honest, I would have launched the AMRAAMS, done one high speed pass, and then said "Fuck it, I'm done" and climbed out of there.

>>8792127

>implying that they should take R&R instead of seek BLISTERING, HATEFUL VENGEANCE

NOOOOOO NOT BISCUIT.

>>8792124
lol dude, you are not fooling anyone and have already been proved wrong

>HURF BLURF OLD CHAP NO NEED FOR FIGHTARS

It is now my goal in life to find a conversation in which I can use this wonderful wonderful phrase.

Also:

BISCUIT!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>8792124
A pilot full of shrapnel is too hurt to properly control his chute and dies in the process isn't really that far out of the realm of possiblity.

>>8792156

and in the next episode, Biscuit returns as the Phantom Phantom, and as ghostly avengers, the players defeat the entire USAF F22 fleet......

>>8792146

Against the Royal Navy?

>>8792127
>>8792146

Hey hey I happen to agree man. The company would be pretty stupid not to ground and/or move the flight out of the area after this series of incidents.

>>8792145
OP again,

yeah, I am getting tired, I didn't write out the dogfight, but it ended up being a disaster, they boosted out of there, with missiles trailing after them. Biscuit and Scotch couldn't outturn the harriers who were pulling a vtol only maneuver all the time. We had actually discussed going back in, and decided it was worth a shot, since we had no clue what the 'gift' was, and our mission said protect the departing aircraft. I wish we would have just left, since we'd be in better shape.

Don't bother replying with the reasonable explanations I've seen so far about why OP's scenario is fine as a game; all the troll is doing in response is spamming "BULLSHIT". Obviously they have no real argument. Probably a butthurt Britfag.

>>8792177
Exactly, hence the "deserves to die" part.

>>8792204

They can line up RIGHT BEHIND THE LIBERIANS.

>>8792207

Well I guess they can bide their time. FOR NOW.

>>8791662
Why not? They prolly expected the mercs to just get the fuck out of dodge, most valuable assets (read: The fucking fighter jets) going out first.

>>8791800
ou mean save for the fact that more than half the missile launches by OPs group didn't result in kills, either? Just shut up and get out, you fucking retard.

For god's sake, they were having a turkey shoot at crappy subsonic strike fighters that don't even have air-intercept radars. OF COURSE, it's going to be a bloody reaping, given that every last plane in the OPs flight is superior to a Harrier GR.9 when it comes to air-to-air.

>>8791958
Five rickety antiques that are faster, better armed and equipped with better air-to-ar weaponry and sensor systems. Newsflash: The Harrier is also a "rickety antique". The GR.9 is just as shitty at air-to-air as the original version from the fucking late 60's, save for carrying newer version Sidewinders.

>>8792030
What equal or superior hardware? The British had NOTHING that was even equal to the fucking Aardvark in air-to-air performance.

>>8792146
They need to repair their fighters (maybe replace the flanker if it's too expensive to repair), and find a new pilot to round out their wing.

If they wanted to this could be a good reason to retire. If nothing else they'll need a while. And what manner of revenge can the wreak on the brits? Get shot up by some Typhoons?

If anything this was revenge for sinking a cruise liner.

>>8792127
You don't sit around and mope! Maverick did that he totally lost his shit for almost all the rest of the movie. No sitting around drinking from the sad glass while some sobby power ballad wails away in the background for you guys! You guys gotta get back on that horse and fuck it to death!

>>8792203
"Believe in yourself, Scotch."

>>8792229
Yes to all of this.

Revenge? This WAS the revenge. You're even now. If they let you be.