>>8257687
churning eddy.

Erata text:


Players play a MAGIC subgame, using their libraries as their decks. Each player who doesn't win the subgame loses half his or her life, rounded up


Seriously, this will piss your oponent off.
Trust me :P

>>8257714
Damn, forgot pic

Why settle for less?

>>8257703
Holy shit, that's great

>>8257714
>>8257723

What the fuck?
Was Wizards on crack when they made this card?
What the hell? But that seems rather amazing under a mirror.

*come back to previous game*
"OH IT'S MY TURN AGAIN, LET'S PLAY SOME MORE MAGIC!"

I'd be like "Fuck this shit" and give up after a while.

>>8257729
What happens to the second effect?
Does it fizzle?

>>8257758
You shuffle the non-existant card into your library, with the net effect of just shuffling your library.

can imprint more than one card on the mirror, meaning you choose a spell to go off each upkeep

>>8257816
derp i fail typing
Can you imprint more than one card on the mirror, meaning you choose a spell to go off each upkeep?

>>8257751
For extra lulz, make sure you've got multiple copies of both cards, so you can put your Sharazade in your Sharazade so you can play while you play.

Note that this is probably the sort of shit that gets you kicked out of tournaments.

>>8257784
Wow.
that's really awesome

>>8257827
Hell yeah.
I'll call it X-zibit.deck

>>8257819
I think every spell on the Mirror goes off every turn.

>>8257827
Dear god.... with some decent tutors
1st Main game sharazade... sub game of a subgame of a subgame of a subgame.
2nd main game sharazade... sub game of a subgame of a subgame.
3rd main game sharazard... sub game of a subgame.
4th main game sharazard... one more subgame.

10 subgames of magic later...

>>8257850
>> 10 subgames of magic later...

Oponent: See pic

Dragon Storm

>>8257850
Then add this card and the Troll is complete.
Make sure you can sac it at something when you decide to end the torment.

>>8257936
I don't even play MTG, but FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

>>8257936
....
A flying trample 6/6 for 2BB
WTF is Wizards doing atm?

>>8257850

>>8257850

Ah yes, the old shitloads of subgames ploy. Too bad your opponent came with his mill/exile deck.

>>8257850
Nonono. You stick the sub-game Sharazads on the subgame panoptic mirrors, so that every turn of the sub-sub-sub-game, you play another sub-game, and so on all the way up the subgame tree.

>>8258045
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCK

>>8258045
This is the game that does not end,
It goes on and on my friend,
some people,
started playing it,
not knowing what it was,
and they'll just keep on playing it forever just because,
this is the game that does not end...

>>8258045
And with
>>8257936
You can keep this up forever.

>>8257850
This should be complemented with stasis, or something that will help slow down each game.

>>8258073
Ahahahaha
Holy shit, this may actually be a funny as shit deck to create some day.

Aren't Stasis's expensive as fuck tho?

Find a way to combo it with this.
Maybe using Storm spells.

Okay, so tentative card list:
4x Panoptic Mirror
4x Shahrazad
4x Abyssal Persecutors
8x Swamps
8x Plains

That's 28 cards; what should the other 12 be? They should be cards that'll slow down play as long as possible.

>>8258142
fffffffffffffffffffff

I wish there was a magic card that lets you win by engaging the other player in fisticuffs and winning.

>>8258157
Aren't AP very expensive for a joke deck?

>>8258166
What price laughter?

>>8258142
The copies created by Panoptic Mirror won't trigger this, unfortunately.

>>8258157

Pulse of the Fields (1WW - Intstant - Gain 4 life if you still have less life than the opponent put Pulse of the Fields back in your hand)

Platinum Angel (Self explanitory)

Lots of Removal... Lots of Counter/Bounce... Isochron with counterspell or boomerang on it is always fun

>>8258142
Imprint >>8257723 and a cheap retrace spell, run artifact lands and Academy Ruins.

Slowing stuff down?
Walls (pic related)
Winter Orb
Trinisphere
Sphere of Resistance
TangleWire
Fog
Exhaustion
Stasis
Static Orb

>>8258190
Life gain to stall/troll
Platinum to prevent your death
Removal to get the best use out of Abyssal Persecutor and keep your opponent from gaining field presense.

Sounds like WUB would be the best colors. Blue allows access to Wall of Denial (the ultimate troll wall) and counterspells. If you're mister money bags bust out your cryptic commands.

>>8258142
Storm doesn't work, because you don't actually play the copies it makes.
Pic related would be a better choice, provided you can play with Unhinged cards. Every turn, you start a subgame...only to hit another subgame the moment you return.
If you win the Enter the Dungeon sub game, search for Enter the Dungeon and Shahrazad.
Proceed to trollface.

Speaking of cards you can have fun with.

I ran this card in a deck once and actually made it work.

>>8260072
>Storm doesn't work, because you don't actually play the copies it makes.

Here's your fun storm combo, I used it to take out 6 people at once in a multiplayer game:

Aluren -> Cavern Harpy -> Brain Freeze.

Grats you just milled the whole fucking table.

>>8260151
I know storm is a good mechanic, my point was that storm doesn't work with Spell Helix the way >>8258142 implied it did.

>>8260172
Oh I know. I was offering an alternative storm combo.

Sup

>>8260176
Oh, well then. Allow me to say that that is a mighty fine combo.

>>8260255
Thank you. Now if only I could perfect the deck around it.

I need to sit down and finish that G/U deck someday. Plenty of card drawing mechanics now, but it needs defense while ramping itself up...maybe some low cc landfall beasts or something.

>>8260284
Oh wait... better idea.

Monogreen elf/beast deck with wirewood channeler for blue.

Plenty of defense and a bait and switch against anyone predicting the combo.

>>8260172
unfortunately it does now. M10 changed the word play to cast which means that storm does work that way now. Hive Mind and any storm is awful.

>>8257827
It's banned in tournaments for a reason.
I think there actually was a deck that used Fork'ed Sheherazades to rob the opponent from win conditions by RFG'ing cards from the opponents deck in the main game. Rules for subgames worked different back then, though.

>>8260363
Sorry to rain on everyone's parade, but neither storm nor Panoptic Mirror would trigger Spellweaver Helix. The Helix triggers whenever you play a card, and the copies from the Mirror and storm aren't cards.

>>8260363
The change of terminology with M10 is completely meaningless for those cards.
Panoptic Mirror and Lightning Helix copy a card and make you cast (play) the copies, which counts for triggering Storm on a spell with Storm and the "storm count".
Meanwhile, Storm and Hive Mind only copy the spell (which is what a card becomes when you cast (play) it), which means the copies are placed on the stack without being cast (played).

Man, there are so many incorrect things in this thread I don't even know where to fucking start.

>>8260871
You might wanna try?

>>8260980
Fine.
>>8257758
Don't overuse the word fizzle. It's already misunderstood as it is.
>>8257784
Not quite. The copied spell is a game object and is randomly shuffled into the library. Once you receive priority, it ceases to exist as a state-based effect.
>>8260072
Yes it does because you cast the spells.
>>8260172
Yes, yes it does.
>>8260425
Storm would trigger because you're CASTING A FUCKING SPELL, DUMBASS.
>>8260550
This fucker's got it right.

>>8257723
>>8257714

Wow, guess I >>8262451 was way late to the party.

>>8258157
Bitches don't know about my Scepter Chant.dec

>>8262585
Plus this.

>>8262585
>>8262594
this makes me angry

>>8260172

In >>8260072, >>8260425, and >>8262424 they were talking about storm copies and mirror copies triggering the spellweaver helix, not about the panoptic mirror's spell triggering storm.
You've got their intent backwards.

>>8262585
I used to run a white/black deck with the scepter in it. my favorite spell to imprint? holy day.

this worked real well once kamigawa set came out and there was much less artifact hate. another spell i'd imprint was ...shit I forgot the name, but it created two 1/1 solider tokens. nice token factory, plus i ran Pristine Angel with it. Attack with pristine, wait for opponent to try and do something to her, in response make two solider tokens and untap angel

(pristine angel has protection from everything while untapped)

>>8262701

forgot to add also that pristine angel untaps whenever you play a spell

>>8258157
more lands

Why no Wrath of God so far?

Time Walk, Time Warp, Walk the Eons....take another turn.

>>8262644
Alright, that's true. I suppose I misunderstood.

And for the Scepter/Mirror, I'd love to put pretty much anything that cantrips into it.

Oh hell, you could even put Concentrate or Tidings into the Mirror and get a one-sided Font of Mythos/Howling Mine going on. Crazy card advantage.

>>8260120
Deja vu.

Gentlemen...

Actually, it's far from perfect. I'm trying to squeeze in a copy of Confusion in the Ranks, but I don't particularly want to drop anything...

>>8263272

You need a faster mana curve... at those costs you'll be dead before you play anything.... make a competitive control deck then add troll elements to it where you can... otherwise you'll be dead before you can play shahrazod

>>8263635

Bleh, a faster curve means we'd need to remove a lot of the troll elements from it. It's never going to stand up to any remotely competative legacy deck, so why not just play possum until somthing happens?

It's not as though anyone will ever be allowed to play it more than once, in any case.

That said, I'd love to see your take on it.

>>8263676

Mmm, my take would use Standstill, Stripmines, Crucible of Worlds, wrath, nevinril's disk, elspeth, force, brainstorm, counterspell, swords.... that kind of stuff

Crucible + Stripmine with a standstill out 'causes sooooo much rage.... also when they finally break standstill you just counter what ever they played to break it... then play another on your turn and grin at them ;-D

Can you use Ring of Ma'ruf or Burning Wish to pull a Shahrazad from the main game into your subgame?

Also, Shahrazad cost two or less. Therefore, any good Shahrazad deck requires Izzet Guildmage.

>>8263745

...ok, yeah, that is more rage inducing than my proto-deck... continue.

>>8263782

That's why I put the R//D in the-

>Izzet Guildmage

OHGODWHAT

You'd need to test this a lot, but this is the competitive legacy control deck i play IRL... with your troll stuff tossed in, and almost all the win conditions removed lol...

I had to lose mishra's and decree to get the troll stuff in... so i'm not sure how the deck will do against mass creatures.... so you might want to toss some wrath/nevinyrral's disk in to deal with those... but it's up to you... that's a lose framework for the deck IMHO...

IF you REALLY want to be an arsehole, get Burning Wish and leave the Shaharazad out. That way you can show them the deck and have them wonder what the christ it does, and Wish it in when all the pieces come together.

>>8257687
Any take an extra turn effects honestly.

What, no Grip of Chaos? No Eye of the Storm?

>>8257687
turn 1 to n-1:some kind of mana ramp idk lol
turn n: play panoptic mirror, play dovescape
turn n+1: imprint time stretch
turn n+whatver:BIRDS EVERYWHERE WHAT I DON'T EVEN

>>8265868

Put a Coat of Arms in there.

rolled 59 = 59

rollan

>>8265868
>>8265922

Insert this into a turbofog deck.

Mana curve, anyone?

win