Class List
>Ace Trainer:
Chaser, Enduring Soul, Frontier Battler, Gym Battler, Stat Ace, Tag Battler, Type Ace
>Capture Specialist:
Apricorn Smith, Artificer, Collector, Engineer, Maniac, Poke Ball Designer
>Researcher:
Cryptozoologist, Petrologist, Photographer, Professor, Scientist, Watcher
>Coordinator:
Beauty Modeler, Coolness Portrayer, Cute Idol, Fashion Designer, Investor, Smartness Teacher, Toughness Contester
>Breeder:
Chef, Evolver, Groomer, Hatcher, Medic, Pusher, Trader
>Psychic:
Air Adept, Clairsentient, Earth Mover, Empath, Fire Breather, Hex Maniac, Influential, Water Pusher,
>Martial Artist:
Aura User, Black Belt, Juggler, Message Therapist, Ninja, Weapons Master
>Ranger:
Captain, Coach, Detective, Navigator, Rider, Special Operations Member

There has been some confusion as to how you gain Classes, and this is because I've never explained.

When a trainer gains a level they might meet the prerequistes to gain a Trainer Class. Trainers can go into one to three of the following eight Classes once they meet the prerequistes: Ace Trainer, Breeder, Capture Specialist, Coordinator, Martial Artist, Psychic, Ranger, or Researcher.
From there, once they gain the nessecary prerequistes, they may go into one or two Advanced Classes.
Trainer's all start with the title: Pokemon Trainer. A Pokemon Trainer can take up to three Trainer Classes and/or Advanced Classes. Since Advanced Classes always have a prerequiste of a Trainer Class, a Pokemon Trainer's Feature Options will look like one of the following examples: Three Trainer Classes, never pursuing a speciality in any of the three Trainer Classes. Two Trainer Classes and one Advanced Class, choosing to find an expertise in an area of one of the Trainer Classes chosen. One Trainer Class and two Advanced Classes, choosing to become adept at the class they choose by mastering two aspect of the Trainer Class.

You gain these Trainer Classes or Advanced Classes instead of gaining a Feature during Trainer Level Up. When you take a Class, you gain two Features anyway so you aren't missing out on your Feature you get during that level.

When creating the eight major classes, we tried to make certain jobs, as being part of a team of trainers, filled.

The Researcher and Coordinator give bonuses to their Pokemon, Teammates and their Teammate's Pokemon, so they do a good job as playing leader.

The Ace Trainer and Capture Specialist can eliminate a threat in the wild by killing a foe or capturing them - removing them from the encounter. This fills the role of an attacker.

The Ranger and Breeder have many supporting features that help protect their allies and their pokemon, undo dealt damage with their care or fend of wilds. They fulfill a defender role.

The Martial Artist and Psychic essentially add another body onto the field to attack with, while having pokemon of their own. The fills the role of extra damage, different from the Ace Trainer or Capture Specialist - who can eliminate a threat entirely, so that foes are going down.

Combat:

During a Round of Combat, you may issue one command to an Active Pokemon and you may perform one Trainer Action.

Trainer Actions are numerous and have several special cases but only a few actually use your entire turn so you may not issue a command to an Active Pokemon.

You may have more then one Pokemon out at a time, but this is discouraged since it gives the GM the chance to use several more wilds in the encounter.

After Trainer Actions, the Pokemon with the highest Speed goes first. They may use a Move and Shift. If they do not want to use a Move, they may Shift twice. When they use a Move, they roll an Accuracy Check and if they are successful, they roll for damage.

How lethal have you set this up to be? I mean, are we talking zero HP and unconscious, just go to a pokemon center? Or zero HP, you're bleeding out and that charizard is going to fucking eat you?

After rolling damage, you add your Pokemon's Attack or Sp. Attack Stat to the damage, depending on the Move's Range, or no Stat if it is not a damaging Move.

The Pokemon who is getting hit by the attack applies weaknesses, resistances and then subtracts their Defense or Special Defense from the damage, depending on what type of Range the Move was.

When targeted by a Move, the foe must roll +1 during their Accuracy Check for every 5 points in their Defense, if hit by a Move that consults Attack or +1 during their Accuracy Check for every 5 points in their Special Defense, if hit by a Move that consults Special Attack.

Or, you may add +1 to their Accuracy Check for every 10 points in your pokemon's Speed.

This damage system makes Moves that buff stats very important.

>>8005076
0 HP is unconscious, if your Pokemon is hit to -100% HP, death savings throws are necessary.

Humans can be rendered unconscious when their HP is at 0 as well, but they are easily brought to at 1 HP, but they'll need hospitalization after such an injury unless someone on your team has a solution.

>>8005076
If you are knocked out, your Pokemon will protect you by using random Moves until the encounter has ended or they are knocked out.

Pokemon centers are cheap, 10 per pokemon healed.
Hospitals are not cheap.

>>8005127
Good to know. Although from looking at the classes, there doesn't seem to be one that would specialize in healing. Or would that just be at the whim of whether or not the player has enough potions?

Fuck yes, P:TA thread! Glad to hear you've gotten so fucking much done. I'll be holding out for the release.

>>8005147

Clearly, one most whore one's Pokemon out to pay for the treatment of third-degree burns on 57% of their body, when the useless fucking cunts failed to block a Flamethrower attack.

Seriously, it's street-corners for the lot of 'ya until daddy can afford a new layer of skin, bitches.

>>8005167
There are a few classes that can heal or stay alive.

In Ace Trainer, the Enduring Soul is very hard to bring down, and can deal with being at negative HP.

In Researcher, the Scientist can produce potions in the field from virtually nothing.

The Breeder can take an Advanced Class in Medic.

The Psychic can become a Healer.

The Martial Artist has great HP bonuses, and is generally more durable then other classes.

>>8005179
About that, any Active Pokemon may intercept an attack with a roll of 6 or better on d20 as long as they can Shift into the path of the attack, disregarding if they have already Shifted that round.

>>8005179
Speaking of this, have we given any thought to inter-species relations? Assumedly it's treated as a lesser form of bestiality?

>>8005209

I love you, /tg/.

>>8005209
That will be up to you and your GM.

I'm not touching that. Ever.

>>8005234
Hahahah, good then. Good.

>>8005234

Good call. I hear that's what killed that "young girl running from monsters" rpg that /tg/ created.

Rules for masturbation are a gateway. Soon, your game is just FATAL repackaged.

So again, good call dude, good call.

Extended rests do recover some HP for pokemon and trainers as well, but staying outside of the safer borders of civilization for long is dangerous.

>>8005271
>Rules for masturbation
There's no way there were seriously rules for masturbation in that game. No fucking way. You're joking.

>>8005279

Yes way.

Anons convinced the dude to add masturbation as a mode to calm the girls.

Eventually, all kinds of rules for sexual details.

Then rape.

>>8005315
That's horrible. /tg/ I am disappoint.

HOWEVER, I do not wish to derail this thread. POKEMANS!

Gym Challenges:

This took a while to figure out how to handle, since you don't want the rest of your party just sitting around, but it's been figured out and it works like clock work now.

Basically, a 3 vs 3, one on one trainer battle against a Gym Champion - the rest of your team does watch, but it gets fun when everyone is into it.

These battles take about 5-10 minutes, the allies can watch from the side to Pokedex the gym leader's pokemon (since doing so in battle is a waste of time) and cheer on.

Building up the fact that they are battling in front of a filled-stadium crowd is important to build hype but this led to the question: Where is the crowd coming from?

The Gym's campus.

Gyms are essentially College like campuses with several thousand trainer aiming to replace the Gym Leader once they retire.

This also presents a place for players to go and arrange matches whenever they like at the local gym.

This is because everyone want to get many wins against trainers to prove their worth to the Gym Leader. Naturally, higher level students won't always show up since they already know they are in the running for replacing the Gym Leader and need to prove nothing.

This also eliminates "Our eyes have met! We must battle!" because that's just nonsense. A Trainer should never HAVE to accept a challenge, their pokemon might all be dead or near death and you just want to get through the forest. Yes, trainers sometimes will challenge you and be rough about it but you'll never have to accept the challenge.

>>8004564
is there any idea yet on psychic's hp levels it seems to me somewhat overpowered if one specializes correctly. For example a hex maniac/ healer could theoretically keep burning/thunder waving everything, and heal off the extra damage from the healer dailies.

Also how much grinding will be involved in the tabletop version?

>>8005368
Well theoretically, some crazy psycho COULD attempt to force the trainer(s) at gunpoint to send out their pokemon, right?

>>8005368

So what if you have multiple players gunning for badges? Wouldn't this method take up unnecessary time? Or are you just leaving that up to DMs?

Gyms NEVER need to be done in order.

Gym Leaders' pokemon wear 'bracers' that limit their Pokemon's power so as not to discourage new trainers. Gym Leaders are also sensible about this matter.

If you fight Blaine first, he'll assault you with his Charmeleon and Ponyta, battling Brock last ensures that you'll face his Aerodactyl and Rhyperior.

This format also easily allows for anyone to create their own Campaign setting with whatever Gym leaders you've created.

>>8005415
yeah but then you go martial artist on their ass, i think what he's saying is that crazies aren't the norm.

>>8005422
>Gym Leaders
>Limiters

Didn't Giovani try that with Mewtwo? Only, he was still crazy powerful?

>>8005419
my guess i you could have a double battle, or perhaps have less pokemon per battle, like 2v2 instead of 5v5

>>8005419
You'll find that not everyone wants Badges. In the campaign I'm GM'ing now, only 2 of my players challenged Brock. The other 3 were not interested in collecting Badges.

Also, 5-10 minutes is an estimate for your first time playing a Gym Leader. In reality, these take 3-5 minutes to get through unless you adding a lot of fluff - that's okay too though, it's really up to your group's style.

>>8005415
Yes. But at that point, complying isn't a big deal, is it?
Also, you'd likely inform local authorities, and they'd take care of it.

>>8005413
Psychics can do this, but at the point you're describing, around level 15, other trainers are doing just as insane things.

Also, I've never seen my players "grinding." Exp. from battles are high to that and weak pokemon you find are quickly caught up to the rest of your team. Around level 45, your pokemon significantly slow in leveling - but a well thought out level 45 can O.H.K.O. a trainer's level 70 if you know what you're doing with Moves and Type Advantages. I'd say a gap of 35 levels between a foe is dangerous, but still doable from what I've seen in playtesting.

>>8005368

I propose a sort of honorable conduct inherent in being a trainer. Challenging a weaker or damaged opponent then winning is dishonorable. Declining a challenge is dishonorable. Declining a challenge when all your pokemon are wounded, or the opposing trainer vastly outranks you, is not dishonorable. Sort of a psuedo-chivalric code. People won't want to battle with dishonorable trainers.

>>8005456
Mewtwo is BBEG material - I'd say he's an exception.

Also, the Gym Leader's pokemon are obedient and are not looking to "kill" challengers, only defeat them.

>>8005457
3 vs 3 is fast and fun. Plus if they lose and you win, you get to brag since you are only allowed one challenge per gym per month and your party isn't going to wait around for month for one trainer.

>>8005590
While honor among trainers is not the same through out there are very many punks.

Pokedexs and a training license take 2 years after high school (which ends at the age of 16 in the suggested settings) to get and cost about 40,000. This gets you out of trainer school at the age of 18 and you can start your adventures. Punks and assholes probably won't pass exams. The Pokemon Organization does not want thugs walking around with portable weapons.

I meant to say "There are not very many punks"

Just a reminder, all this fluff is only for the suggested game settings and subject to change depending on your gaming group.

>>8005643
While we're on the subject of punks with portable weapons....whats the word on organizations like Team Rocket?

Any other aspects of the game anyone would like explained?

Maybe a Class you'd like to know more about?

A Move? An Ability? Some Features that were released in the last thread?

On that note. What did /tg/ think of all the features?

Keep up the good work Dr. Stark!

also i have question about trainer classes, if one meets the requirements for two classes at level one, can he take both or would he take one at lvl 1 and the other at lvl 2?

>>8005707

That picture made me think of a question.

How're you dealing with storage? I'm assuming you'll still only be able to keep 6 pokemon on hand at a time, so what happens to the others you catch? Keeping with the CPU system of the games or what?

>>8005703
Gang activity will vary between campaigns.
Currently, my players just left Cerulean because of a gang war happening near Mt. Moon between Teams Aqua and Magma.

Generally, they use illegal Poke Balls and have illegal Pokemon Centers wherever their hideouts are so they can use Pokemon without getting detected.

>>8005707
If I could get Mewtwo's stats, it'd make my day.

how would you go about dealing with a player who is specifically looking for a certain type or nature of pokemon. Also, i took it that evolution items are somewhat rare in this, is that correct?

>>8005729
Poke Balls, owned by Devon Corp/Silph Co, have built in teleportation devices activated upon your capture of your 7th pokemon.

PC accounts cost about 5000 per year, and cost 100 to activate a teleport, replacing a pokemon with one in storage, when exchanging pokemon at a Pokemon Center.

>>8005711
Take one at lvl 1 and the other at level 2.
Taking a Class replaces the Feature you would have gotten that level.

This actually means that at higher levels, you might not be able to get a class during a level up since you don't gain a Feature per level at higher levels.

To be honest everything in this world seems expensive. What is the exchange rate from dollars to whatever it is they use for currency in Kanto/Johto/Hoenn? Just out of curiosity.

Guessing hunting is generally frowned upon.

>>8005805
so if you switched out your entire team at once it would cost 600 or would it 100 still?

>>8005844
you gotta remember it's based of yen, so it's not that much.

I demand the ELITE FOUR pictures!

>>8005786
Mewtwo's Base Stats:
HP: 11
Atk: 11
Def: 9
SAtk: 15
SDef: 9
Speed: 13

Depending on his level, we'll call that X, he'll have X-1 more stats wherever he wants it.

More on Mewtwo in a bit.

>>8005786
There are several Features that can control natures.
There are a few Features that can find particular types.
In terms of Species, I ask my players to give me a list of 3 pokemon they'd like to encounter throughout the campaign on the first day. It's the GM's responsibility to try and spawn at least 2 of those 3 during the campaign, so players can use pokemon they always wanted to train in an RP game.

>>8005844
Considering you can go win money from other trainers or contests, and a Gym Match win gets 4000, for example, everything is actually not very expensive. The 40,000 trainer's license is to justify the player's lack of money at the beginning of the campaign.

>>8006056
Thanks man. You're making a Mewtwo fanboy very happy.

>>8005903
If you're over hunting, but pokemon are plentiful and aggressive, unless you're looking for nests to stomp on eggs, no one seems to mind. At least that's my take on it.

More on Mewtwo:
Here are its Capabilities:
Overland 6, Surface 5, Underwater 2, Sky 4, Jump 7, Power 10, Intelligence 7, Telekinetic, Telepathic, Mind Slaver, Mental Lock

More Capabilities will be added appropriately. Capabilities for each pokemon is what I'm working on now.

Other then that, info from the source material doesn't change much.

Capabilities:
This is what separates the video game's pokemon from the tabletop's.

Capabilities is a new addition for the purposes of Pokemon Tabletop Adventures.
Each Species of Pokemon move at different rates in various terrains. They have different capacities for jumping strength and physical strength. Some Pokemon can fly while others can breath underwater. Many Species of Pokemon can be trained for being used as a Mount. Others are too small for that but can be used for infiltration as a result of their size. The Capabilities list all keywords relating to static abilities the Pokemon has.
Examples of some Capabilities:
Overland 1-Overland 10: This is a scale, accompanied with a meters per turn speed, given to each pokemon where Overland 1 is given to Slowpoke and Overland 7 is given to Suicune.
Sinker: Pokemon with Sinker cannot swim
Firestarter: Pokemon with Firestarter can produce flames without using a Move. Some TMs, such as TM 35 Flamethrower, will give a Pokemon the Firestarter Capability as well as the Move Flamethrower.

>>8006147
>Mind Slaver, Mental Lock

Can you explain what these are? I mean, Mind Slaver is fairly self-explanatory, but a bit more in-depth explanation would be much appreciated.

>>8006192
so it's kinda like additional stats to determine how a pokemon interacts and moves in 3D? also how would this tie in with the new Pokeathlon they recently introduced? (the HG/SS games have a series of minigames that involve pokemon based sports, like sprinting, wrestling, etc)

>>8006222
Mind Slaver is a Capability unique to Mewtwo.
He can mentally control the minds of several Pokemon and or Humans, from miles away. He can add a target who fails to make a saving throw by targeting them and using Mind Slaver in place of a Move.

Mind Lock is not unique to Mewtwo
Pokemon with Mind Lock cannot have their minds read.

>>8006270
I have no made rules for the Pokeatholon yet, but I will.
The Ranger's advanced class, Coach, is directly related to Capabilities and the Pokeatholon.

>>8006430
Thanks Stark!

>>8006430
I noticed that pokemon and trainers can get one shift per turn, is that like a move-action in DnD, also does that take up the entire turn so a trainer or pokemon moves and that is it's turn?

For those curious, these are the primary Capabilities.

Burrow, an underground speed ranked from 1-5. Intelligence, ranked 1-7, where 4 is average. Jump, ranked from 1-10. Overland, ranked 1-10, shows how much your pokemon can Shift per turn. Power, 1-10, is how strong they are/the average weight they can lift. Sky, ranked 1-10 shows how much your pokemon can Shift in the air per turn. Surface, again ranked 1-10, shows how much your pokemon can Shift on water per turn. Underwater is ranked 1-5 and shows underwater speeds.

Certain HMs/TMs grant Capabilities, or add a rank to them if your Pokemon already has that capability.

>>8006529
Pokemon and Trainers each get one shift per turn.

If either choose not to perform an action, they may shift twice.

If a pokemon is performing a melee attack, they may shift 150% of their usual Shift distance to get to the target.

A pokemon may shift for free in order to intercept attacks on a check of 6 on d20.

>>8006597
now does swift swim and chlorophyll affect both the pokemon's speed and movement (overland/underwater)?

>>8006667
Yes.

one thing i was unclear about was how pokemon keep moves, do they keep all moves taught to them or a certain ratio like +1 every ten levels.

Who is that girl in the OP? I've seen her (back) in several pictures like that one (she usually has Squirtle when they're standing next to their Pokémon) but never found out who the hell she's supposed to be.

>>8006783
she's blue, in the special series, there is a female protagonist ever generation and she is the first gen one.

>>8006783
That is Blue. Seen again here: >>8005234

>>8006773
7 Natural (Level Up/Egg)
7 Mechanical (TM/HM/Tutor)

Breeders can manipulate this and put any move anywhere in those 14 slots.

Okay so we know how Gyms are modeled and how they function. What about the Elite 4/Regional Championships (for example the Indigo Plateau in Kanto). Like I'm guessing to partake in each tourney you need each Region's respective badges, but what about veteran challengers? Do they need to get each badge again or could they reenter?

it's Blue read the fucking manga! Faggot!

>>8006783
Blue

>>8006831
Grow up.

>>8006830
Veterans must re-earn the right to enter. The championships are limited to 64 entries per year. Show 8 badges, issued to you that year, and you're signed up. When re-challenging Gyms to reacquire badges, Gym Leaders will NOT use the power bracers on their pokemon.

Get first place in the 64 and you may challenge the Elite 4. You enter with 6 pokemon, and get healed between the rounds, but must win all against all 4 in 3 vs 3 matches to become a Champion.

My first players participated, I placed them in different brackets and sure enough they made the top 4. They battled each other, congratulated the opposite when they won and the winner fought against the elite four and won. Barely. He was crowned a champion.

He battled a previous Champion, Red, in an exhibition match, but surrendered halfway through.

>>8006960

Can we have the stats on Red and his pokemon? Sounds suitably epic.

>>8006960
awesome sauce

could you go into more detail with the legendaries, i know they can always resist orders and are far more powerful then normal pokemon, but can they still be caught and tamed if someone was determined enough?

>>8006988
I can't find them.
He had Venusaur, Espeon, Snorlax, Charizard, Gyarados and Pikachu.

My first campaign's champion had, if I remember correctly, Pidgeot, his starter, Umbreon, Dragonair, Starmie, Magby, and Ponyta.

>>8007026
Certain legendaries are best kept uncaught unless you're aiming to be BBEG. However, if you are allied with legends, you can find ways to summon them. One of my players could summon Deoxys because he protected its egg as it was reincarnating itself over a few months.

A note about the championship - it's for sure a good way to end a campaign. After the BBEG is taken down, they got let in for free, even though they had 10 or so badges from mix and matched regions, for epic public service. After working together for ages, they were forced to see which of them went the farthest.

I also want to eventually run a campaign that starts with a Championship, the PCs meeting each other by placing high.

>>8007155
i figured the title legendaries would uncatchable, but what about the lesser legendaries that canonically have been owned like the birds or golems?

>>8007155
Set up an Irc and and let people sign up for it. I'd play that. Or jsut make a suptg chat room.

I was looking over the Alpha and the classes, and I'm guessing you'll add more to them like features and such in the future? Like Psychics and Fighters with their class features, plus the features of their specialization.

Really good fanfic written by a /v/irgin btw.

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5196885/1/GREEN_Act_1

>>8006960
Thanks. This sounds more and more badass everytime you post.

>>8007184
Go for it. The legends who aren't important to the ecosystem are rare, not unobtainable.

HAI GUIS!

WHATS GOING ON IN HERE?

>>8007195
I already released all the features in a previous thread.
Let me find the link.

There are 10+ per Class and 10+ per Advanced Class, another 20+ plain Trainer features, another 20+ Arms Features, and the 8 Class Features and the 6-8 Advanced Features per class.

Here are the thread updates -
http://4chan.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/5330406/
http://4chan.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/5364072/
http://4chan.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/6096491/
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/6801575/
http://4chan.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/6858482/
http://4chan.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/7128586/
http://4chan.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/7379393/
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/7829896/

The last link is the topic that has the link to the .zip with all the features.

Also, I heavily updated the 1d4chan page. Which is why I'm looking for Axiom.

http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Pokemon_Tabletop_Adventures

>>8007268
no you don't exist yet, and unless you are a mightyena evo, i hope you never do.

>>8007268
Stark is being a fucking badass

>>8007332
I'm excited for this...

Then again, I'm obviously obsessed with pokemon.

>>8007375
so stark.... whats the ninth class?

Can we at least get a name and general playstyle?

>>8007375
i just want my fighting/dark pokemon, although i heard through the grapevine that it is likely a lucario evo, which isn't bad, i just can't get over the fact that it's steel/fighting. It doesn't look metal at all.

>>8007412
Sorry, but the 9th class is entirely under wraps.
I'll give you this:
It finds way to find synergy with nature more then the Ranger who masters it, more then the Breeeder who brings nature up and more then the Psychic or Martial Artist who are practitioners of nature's power.

The reason I can't give more is because if it flops, we'll have to scrap it and rethink it.

>>8007417
Lucario evolution is entirely speculation at the moment. It is most likely a legend since it'll be staring in the next movie.

>>8007512
It will be IN the movie. Not staring.

It's going to be like Munchlax in Destiny Deoxys.

>>8007575
Ah. Well. we'll find out on the 15th when they release more info.

How effective can a one-type team be? In the handheld games, it's ineffective but fluffy and enjoyable. If I were to run an all-Ghost type team, would that prevent me from contributing or winning?

>>8007575
or donphan in the first movie

>>8007598
im going to try to run a fighting-type team, we can fail together!

>>8007598
Not at all. In fact, If you took Type Ace, an Advanced Ace Trainer, you'd be better off.

>>8007598
Not always the case

A one type team can be effective against someone who has a varied team, as you only have to worry about one of their Pokemon.

If you have a water type team with Starme and Swampart, you can Icebeam/Earthquake your threats away

>>8007629

In that case, Ace Trainer/Type Ace/Psychic here I come!

>>8007616
>>8007598
Or you can be breeder and get odd Moves onto your pokemon to counter their weaknesses.

>>8007651
This. In video games, I am strictly a Water-Type trainer. Works for me.

>>8007659
>>8007629
Correct.

>>8007684
I guess I'm not the only one? I always use water types.

Competitively, one-type teams are slightly inferior because if one of their pokemon is a sweeper of a super-effective type, you're pretty much screwed. However, for the actual game it's not a big deal.

>>8007651
>>8007684
water is a wildly accessible and diverse type, it's a bit harder, but still doable with the rarer less diverse types like electric and rock.

>>8007756

I always tried running an all-Ghost team. Parafusion is delicious...

Wait... You can choose to take a class instead of a feature right?

What if, you decide not to... ever?

Can you have a "Generic" trainer, with nothing special about them. Just an Average Joe?

By the way, what system is this? D20? D10? D6?!?!

I'm going to get dinner. Be back in a bit /tg/.

If any questions come up, I'll answer them when I return.

>>8007817

D20

Hey slightly off topic, Are the pokemon mangorines worth reading or taking a gander at?

Also, I decided to mix things up last time I played Platnium.

Instead of having a team theme'd around a certain type. I had a team that was theme'd around a color.

The color was white.

I think my final team was:
Empoleon
Gardevoir
Staraptor
Absol
Togekiss
... another white pokemon.

So yeah... I was a racist pokemon trainer.

WHITE POWAH!

>>8007851
Pokemon Special is fantastic. I shit myself with glee when I saw it in Zellers of all places for 7$ a pop.

Running a baton-passing all-Eeveelution team is a lot of fun. BUFFS BUFFS BUFFS BUFFS BUFFS BUFFS BUFFS

>>8007889
Anywhere I could read these online?

>>8007953
Posting from my ds so I cant get a link for you.

But it is on the site One Manga. It's called Pokemon Special

A few things:
1 - Will the "pressure" ability still exist? If so, will it actually be useful for once?
2 - Anyway to get Wonderguard on Sableye/Spiritomb >:-)
3 - How rare are evolution items?
4 - How do you handle Leafeon and Glaceon?
5 - How do you handle creatures who evolve during evolution only?

>>8007953
Rejoice.

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/pok_mon_adventures/

>>8008009
He said that trade evolutions (i assume thats what you ment) can still be evolved. I would guess that they would all become happiness evolves.

I assume leafeon and the like are handled by the GM. Like if you level up in a forset.

I think breeders can make wondertombs. We had a thread a few days ago where someone brought up that a wondertomb would make an awesome BBEG.

>>8007879
Awesome, my friend has a racial stereotypes team with ludicolo, jynx, and probopass on it.

>>8008009

1. pressure is a very good ability, just situational.

2. no, and doing so is faggot-tier, but you can get magic guard on one.

3. they seem to be rarer than in the handheld series.

4. probably any heavily forested or icy area forces an evolution.

5. What?

>>8008126
Wondertomb as lich I believe it was, I loved the shit out of that thread.

>>8008144
On 5

I meant trade evolutions, but IRL conversation messed me up as I continued typing
I apologize

>>8008147
Please tell me it was archived and if so link?

>>8008216
I have no idea, Sorry bro

How easy is it emulate "classes" from the game in this RPG? Like if I wanted to be a Pyromaniac could I? Are there options I could take to represent it mechanically?

>>8008009
Pressure does exist, when activates it reduces all foes' Frequencies At-Will -> Every Other Trun -> Battle -> Center

Wondertomb cannot happen.

Not very rare

Evolve to Leafeon with Leaf Stone or in a dense forest.
Evolve to Glaceon with Cold Stone or in a snowy region.

Special circumstances result in special encounters.

>>8007790
If you never take a Class, then you'll have to always pick from the Pokemon Trainer Features. There are about 25 to pick from.

>>8008216
The general gist of it was that it was a 4E game, lich tries to summon an elemantal army, mutates the players into the legenadry's, players can't stop him.
Once P:TA comes out, the gm will be running a game that takes place a few thousand years later. The elemantal army (which im sure you figured out are pokemon) have been tamed, and the lich was somehow stopped.

However, Team Generics leader has a Spirtomb that, intead of being made of 108 souls, is only made of 1... the lich.

Turnns out, Team Generics leader is just a puppet... its really run by his wondertomb.

Are TM's reusable or does the disc shatter upon use?

>>8008268
Very easy. Every existing Pokemon character falls into the 3 Special Class system.

Some examples:
Yellow - Psychic, Healer, Empath
Bill - Capture Specialist, Maniac, Engineer
Blaine - Ace Trainer, Type Ace, Researcher

>>8008268
ace trainer -type ace(fire) or psychic -pyrokinetic could both do the job.

>>8008366
No discs.
Syringes with a liquid that can only be used once.

They must be applied at Pokmon Centers since the pokemon needs to be sedated as it painfully grows the new organ that allows it to use the new move.

HMs are more like reusable syringes that prick the pokemon.

any TM can be an HM, any HM can be found in the form of a TM

In your games, how effective have hit and run tactics been?

Like an Abra with teleport using confusion, moving, confusion, moving, when the enemy might actually catch up, teleport to the other side of the field. Or flying pokemon who never need to swoop in for an attack?

How good are the close-quarter pokemon at closing the distance in general?

>>8008364
This brings up a great question. If we choose to run the game as a fantasy setting, how balanced would the DnD races be?

I don't really see a problem with any of them other then human (extra feat, not sure how balanced that is.)

>>8008443
That sounds horrific, but is a valid reason for needing multiple TMs O_o
Kudos

>>8008443
Awesome.

>>8008386
So what are the odds of getting stats for NPCs like those you just mentioned?

Also, and I'm sure you've probably mentioned this before but I'm too lazy to browse all those archives, we can multi class right? Like taking up Ace Trainer and Researcher features?

>>8008461
also how would a fast pokemon effect strategy? could you hit-and-run shift, by moving to attacking and then using a trainer move to shift away?

Any rules available to run a Collesium like game world? With snaging, Shadow Pokemon, ect.

>>8008461
Close quarter pokemon can move more then usual if they are using a melee attack during their turn. Ranged attack do have a limit, so even flying pokemon need to close the distance eventually. Teleport has a 10 minute cool down, so you can do that tactic once.

>>8008467
I have never thought about that. Ever. I'll think about it later. Maybe.

>>8008556
So far it's been easy for fast pokemon to play keep away, but once they are hit, they go down. easily. It's all up to what kind of pokemon you want.

>>8008535
see >>8004737
tl;dr?
You can triple class if you wanted to, but you can't take any advanced classes if you did. Or multi-class and take one advanced class. Or take one class and two advanced classes.

>>8008685
They will be included in the GM guide.

>>8008753
Cool. I always thought a post-apocalyptic Pokemon game set in a desolate environment would be cool to run.

>>8008523
>>8008476
It's the only that made sense to me.
I mean, a Rhydon would need to suddenly have a gland all over its body that let it sweat oils to be able to use Surf and go swimming.

TMs in Pokemon: Tabletop Adventures are... kinda grim.

>>8008718
Wait, if moves have a cooldown, how does the move Encore work?

>>8008718
ehhh, the races don't sound to hard to homebrew anyway.

They are pretty generic, even if you can't port over DnD elves directly, it would be pretty easy to just give a small bonus for each one.

>>8008797
So fluffwise, are they still called Technique Machines and Hidden Machines, or do they go by a different name? And if the former, are they nanotech or something?

>>8008804
Encore – Normal
The target is magically egged on to perform the same thing they did on their last turn, over and over again.
Battle – 2
Ranged **
Effect: 1 Target
The target uses the same Move for 1d4 + 2 turns. If the Frequency of the Move doesn’t allow the Move to be used so often, the target instead cannot use a Move during their turn.

>this thread

>>8008883
How does substitute work do it shift with the pokemon or stay in one spot? i'm downloading the alpha right now.

>>8008883
Cool

What about Return?
Is their a mechanical happiness value?

So... what happens if a human shoots up with a TM? I mean, im sure most of them would be fatal, but what about something that could probably affect humans, llike low kick or karate chop?

>>8008863
Technical Machines and Hidden Machines are nanotech that form the organ in the pokemon's body if the pokemon is compatible with the TM/HM. After a few days of being in place, the nonotech organs become organic.

Pokemon world is so high tech.

>>8008916
It floats, in front of oncoming attacks, for the pokemon who forms it.

>>8008931
The nanotech will dissolve itself, being unable to perform its duty in that body.

>>8008920
Return – Normal
The user’s care for their trainer is what compels them to make this devastating charge.
EOT – 2
Melee
3d20
Effect: 1 Target
The user may only use Return if they like their owner.

>>8008983
Do TMs reduce a pokemon's affection for trainers if they're painful to learn?

>>8008983
>3d20
HOLY FUCK WHAT?

>>8009008
return at max in game has a base power of 110 so it's quite a high damage attack.

>>8009008
>>8009042

Yeah, Pokemon have a HUGE damage spread.

>>8009008
Return is god tier bro

Just realized something; how does STAB fit into all this?

>>8009042
>110
More like 200.

>>8009001
not if they're sedated/numbed at a pokemon center. then they're just sitting in place for a while. no harm in that.

however, using a TM/HM out of a center would surely make them hate you if they understood it was your fault.

They'd also probably fear needles in the future. No Full Heals anymore.

>>8009008
Not easy to get.

>>8009114
without STAB?

>>8009114
I think you're thinking of flail with 1 hp or whatever that magikarp trick is

>>8009112
An additional die us rolled, depending on your pokemon's level.
1-10 - 1d4
11-20 - 1d6
21-30 - 1d8
31-40 - 1d10
etc.

It'll be in the player's guide.

Giving a needle to a ghost/steel pokemon
Oh my

>>8009148
Nope, Return maxes at 200. At least, I'm pretty sure it does.

Dr. Mr. Stark should be able to verify, since he also uses Shoddy Battle, though I don't know which server he plays on.

>>8009157
What about crits?
Do they do extra damage, or max damage?

Return is the move that utilises the Happiness in a more positive light, by rewarding the amount the Pokémon likes the trainer. It is a Normal Type Physical Attack with 20PP and 100% accuracy. It's power is calculated by the following means:
Base Power = Pokémon Happiness / 2.5

This gives a maximum result of 102 and a minimum result of 1

>>8009169
Eyes.

>>8009202
Max damage.

>>8009192
On Smogon's. I think 200 is right.

>>8009211
http://www.serebii.net/games/returnfrust.shtml

>>8009244
sableye

>>8009290
sableye has shown to be at least partially solid, or you could use a tongue

>>8009290
Hypodermic Drillbit Attachment, available at any center that applies TMs for you.

>>8009244
Friend code?

>>8009307
ok then, brozong. Its eyes are painted on.

Or spiritomb, the only part of it thats physical there, is a fucking rock.

>>8009343
www,smogon.com

>>8009352

>>8009343
I'm not playing the video games currently.

I occasionally play shoddy on smogon's server.
Dr. Mr. Stark there too.

>>8009356
The solution from the needle is used as a spray?

>>8009356
You could just, ya know, run it in your own game that they can't get TMs.

Just saying.

Why alter a fundamental aspect of the system just to suit your perfectionist needs?

>>8009386
I just have a bad habit of pushing things too far.

Not trying to upset anyone, I'm just wondering what would happen.

>>8009365
Elegant_Gentleman here!

Have you a UU team? I'm building one right now.

>>8009437
>what would happen.
Dr. Mr. Stark would use Frustration and deal MASSIVE DAMAGE

>>8009446
Any chance you could fit Dodrio in there?

>>8009446
a vote for primeape is a vote for PRIMERAPE

>>8009468
I'm basing it around Sunny Day because this thread has inspired me to make a theme team and it's freezing outside, but that's not a bad idea to throw in.

Anyway, about the actual game: Will HMs (or really any moves) have specific rules as to what they can and cannot do outside of combat?

>>8009516
In that case I'd also suggest a Houndoom with Sunny Day, Solarbeam, Crunch and Flamethrower. This is possible without a move pusher, all you need is the Sunny Day and Solarbeam TM/HM.

>>8009516
Not really, but some TMs and HMs will grant capabilities.

For example, if a pokemon has Sinker (cannot swim) but is taught Surf they will lose Sinker and gain Surface 1.

See
>>8006597
>>8006192

>>8009516
eggecutor is a good sunny day pokemon,

chlorophyll
Heat rock

Sunny Day
Hiddenpower (fire)
Solarbeam
Synthesis

>>8009446
Needs pinsir bro.

>>8009446
I don't have a UU team, but my team does suck.

I've actually been on shoddy for a bit if anyone is interested.

>>8009625
Are they tier only on Smogon or are there casual teams?

>>8009668
Not sure. I know you can challenge casually on the server, so i don't think it matters.

>>8009668
There are Rated and Unrated battles.

/tg/ should start up its own server!

Also, Acid_Burn reporting in as soon as I log in. I've got OU, UU, and NU bracket teams!

What about a SCIENCE! team?

Electrode
Magnazone
Porygon
What else?

>>8009684
fuck yes! i am getting a tauros right this motherfucking instant.

>>8009732
rotom

Just downloaded Shoddy, think I'll start up my casual team.

>>8009732
Metagross, fucker's a UFO.

>>8009732
/sci/ has a team like that.

>>8009745
Rotom is a potergiest. Thats not exactly SCIENCE!

I suppose mewtwo would work, but probably cant be used being a legendary.

>>8009732
Muk, Weezing, Exploud?

>>8009757
I suppose it could work.
>>8009780
Psyduck is only their mascot because his name starts with /sci/

The monstrosity is complete.

Challenge incoming!

>>8009707
We could just invade one of the servers that is empty and claim it as our own.

>>8009820
Yeah, When I heard this I tried to get /tg/ to make a rival team, The idea did not get off the ground.

>>8009820
Their team would be
Alakazam
Metagross
Slowking
Porygon-Z
Magnezone
Electrode?

>>8009846
I'm surprised. A /tg/ team would be AMAZING. Get the fattest, most angry and most creepy pokemon possible.

>>8009802
Muk, chemical waste, could work.
Weezing, same
Exploud, I wasn't aware that explouds werent naturaul.

>>8009859
Snorlax or Relaxo as the Russians say
Slowpoke
Muk

There were a few others, I forgot them.

>>8009859
Hypno
Slaking
Abomasnow
Snorlax
Lickilicky
Spiritomb

>>8009893
what is up with that oddish.. aint they supposed to be BLUE? not Black

>>8009893
Switch out Abomasnow for Froslass.

Why?

Because /tg/ needs to be the little girl.

>>8009930
ralts

a MALE ralts.

WE NEED TO BE A DELISIOUS TRAP.

>>8009907
It's up for interpenetration; I've seen several pictures that have them black instead of blue.

>>8009954
You mean male Kirlia.

>>8009930
>>8009954
I was thinking of creepy/large pokemon.

I wasn't thinking creepy in that sense.

Go for it guys.

Anybody else got questions about the tabletop?

>>8009974
Hmmmm... any chance of getting Dodrio's stats/abilities?

>>8009970
You mean Male Gardevoir

>>8009959
>interpenetration
>penetration

Nice freudian slip there. Sam.

>>8010014
I blame the spell check thing.

>>8009974
Is it possible to NOT qualify for any classes at level 1?

>>8009974
Fun matches. :3

The tabletop? Are you (or anyone in this thread) expecting to run an online game, for one?

About the actual mechanics: Unsure of this has been asked, but is there a Capability that allows water-types to be amphibious regardless of whether they would normally be? Such as how Seaking and the like just sort of...float or flop around in the games.

>>8009990
Dodrio's Base Stats
HP - 6
ATK - 11
DEF - 7
SATK - 6
SDEF - 6
SPD - 10

I haven't gotten to dodrio's capabilities yet - sorry.

>>8010048
They just have Overland 1. 1 meter per round.

>>8010030
Yes. My players didn't get their classes at level 1. Two got them at level 3 and one of them got it at level 2. One Has already began multiclassing at level 6.

>>8010053
Pokemon in the days of Chivalry?

BEEDRIL KNIGHT

>>8010053
It's fine, I'm just glad to get a basic idea of it's stats. And I assume Dodrio is usable as a mount?

Also, since pokemon only get 1 stat point at each level, their stats will be much lower than in the games, where they get multiple points for multiple stats. Does this make the pokemon in the tabletop game less powerful, or do the mechanics take the lower scores into account?

Just curious, did anyone read through some Features?

How were they?

Where any stupid? Useless? Overpowered?

>>8010108
Even back then Psychics dominated the battlefields.

Old stories said that those humans who possessed the strange gifts either were blessed by Arceus himself and others say that they were spawn of unholy breeding of man and pokemon.

>>8010154
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
>ARCANINE USED HELPING HAND
>ARCANINE USED HELPING HAND
>ARCANINE USED HELPING HAND
>ARCANINE USED HELPING HAND

>>8010154
They seem a little basic right now, but they do a good job of representing the variety of things to do.

Dual Wielding seems like it should be its own mechanic because of how double battles are.

>>8010110
Mechanics take the lower stats into account, also this further allows for a pokemon's individuality since their stat will be so different from the next dodrio who is getting better stats else where.

Dodrio will have "Landmount"

>>8010108
pic related

Can anyone hit me up with Toxicroak's stats?

Hijackan' Pokeuniverse Server.

GET IN HURR /TG/

>>8010198
Man that guy's gotta be 3 feet tall for a 4'07" Nidoking to tower over him.

Seriously Nidokings are SHORT

>>8010178
I think the reason I didn't was the fact that there isn't any official two vs two. Even fighting against Tate and Liza need two challengers and both would get a badge.

>>8010215
Connection refused!

>>8010232
5'7. Good luck riding

>>8010154
I only read through the pokemon so far, I can leave you a message once i get through the trainer stuff though.

>>8010247
Why are pokemon midgets.

But Charizard I'd expect to be wide enough to ride despite being shorter than me.

All I want is a Cloyster, because I've always thought that it is a fuck-awesome pokemon.

Pic related.

>>8010206
HP - 8
ATK - 11
DEF - 7
SATK - 9
SDEF - 7
SPD - 9

>>8010258
I wanna slowpoke your cloister until I bulbasaur
Goddamn I was like 13 or 14 when Ghastly made up that song

>>8010255
Garchomp's is 6'3
Gardevoir's is 5'3
Darkrai is 4'11 (double height for legs being out except they're really just for show)

>>8010223
>>8010247
>>8010255
You can say how tall/heavy your pokes are - up to 50% away from the norm. Just to add more 'individuality' for your pokes.

Mewtwo is 6'7"
If you go by the anime scaling which (can at times go for HURR to DURR in sizing of some species) its all bets off

>>8010281
Did someone say Slowpoke?

>>8010276
Can it be assumed that all stats are their game base stats/10 and rounded, or have you made adjustments in areas where certain pokemon are lacking?

>>8010340
I think I've changed less then 10 pokemon. But other then that, you're right about how I found base stats.
Since I can't possibly playtest all of the pokemon, I'm leaving it up to the internet to find pokemon who will need updates in later releases.

>>8009939

OP from here

mainly looking for good events to use in game

also, how do you handle pokemon like Goldeen or Seadra? just can't fight out of water?

>>8010492
They can only flop around on land, moving about 1 meter per round.

Events? Like story ideas?

>>8010529
basically

"mainly looking for events and characters to go along with them. big things like in the games where team rocket took an office building hostage, slowpokes being hunted for their tales, Bill and his transformation into a pokemon... strange and unique events to stand out with"

and do you still gain money every time you beat a trainer? like, you take bets on victory?

>>8010563
I make my players agree with NPCs before hand on the gamble if they do at all.

Plots?
How about Rocket is revived, so everyone goes looking for Geovanni, but the whole show is actually being run by a Level 100 Alakazam who is just using illusions and mind control to use the executives?
Or an organization that is bulldozing habitats and killing pokemon who oppose them?

a gang rivaling team rocket takes over a stadium or the like... with guns
caught in a cave-in that traps her in the mines where they dig up evolution stones


always liked the idea of an experimental Hyper Ball. mad-expensive, or maybe have to have major pull with Professor Oak. basically balls with immediate links to your PC, so you could call any of your pokemon right from the PC. take up a lot of power though, and can be exhausted after 6-10 uses for a few hours, depending on the rate you toss em out

>>8010588
Stark is God-Tier.

Pic related, best pokemon.

It's been good /tg/

Still looking for Axiom, but I'm heading out -

>>8010588
I always liked those rare pokemon hunters from the movies who took things WAY too far.

Can you imagine someone hunting Arceus?

>>8010655
Pic more related. Actual best Pokemon. Night /tg/.

>>8009954
was disapointed to find out that Kangaskhan was changed to be allowed to be male

was going to have a huge alpha bull attack the party in the safari zone

>>8010724
Fuck yeah.

Giant cubones.

imagined at one point Mewtwo returning to Cinnabar Island after Blaine died, taking over the gym