>Anyone remember that?

Yes. Someone made some pretty awesome writefaggin' about it too.

Yeah well you know what?

I love you, that was the best advice ever.

People said they wanted an update? Here's the update;

My character tried and trained to become his best, got the help and favors of old friends, and saved the day like a big damn hero. Then when that didn't work, and he was chained and locked away in a tower and tortured, he snapped asunder and broke the paladin's heart.

So yeah, the guy that said become the hero and win her over can go to heaven. The plan worked too well.

>>13254369

Yeah I saw that, it was real cool. Shame they couldn't continue it due to lack of info though.

>>13254386
Glad to know it worked out for you. More details may be required on how he broke her heart.

I don't but that sure is fucking hilarious.

>>13254386

...that's more depressing than what I wrote. Well, I guess if you liked how it worked out...

>>13254364
Someone obviously needs to slap that bitch and remind her where she belongs.
(hint: it starts with a k and ends with "itchen")

...


I jest, of course, but seriously - that kind of chivalrous bullshit rarely works if the character is MALE, much less if it's a female. Has nobody gotten annoyed by her view of men? Overdone chivalrous men get reminded that some women are actually strong and self-reliant all the time, why does that not happen here?

I guess I'll just post using images I can find on this computer. Some of them are relevant, but allot of them aren't.

---

Anyway so the last time there was a thread, I detailed how my character was shotgunned wedding-d with the groups paladin, who was done up like a chivalrous knight, but in reverse. That is, she treated men as the fairer sex and acted chivalrously towards them and believed they needed protecting.

Well during the adventuring our characters were in love to the point where the paladin more or less discarded her beliefs, and they did everything together.

However when they were forced married due to a mistake, she suddenly went 180 and staunchly returned to her beliefs, and had my character confined to the home and not allowed to leave or do anything dangerous.

>>13254650
Why did you let her do that?
Seriously. Was she the strongest fighter in the realm?

>>13254711
Not OP, but you should glance through the archived thread if you have any questions.

>>13254711
Yes, she was stronger then the rest of the party.

>>13254711
Yeah dude read the archived threads. They were pretty cool.

Pic related = My hero

>>13254595

Well in this scenario, her character actually is very strong, the strongest in the group, so she can more or less get away with it.

>>13254650

Anyway so, with my character out of the limelight afforded the rest of the group, it basically meant character death, as he'd no longer be part of the story. However I really liked him, and wanted ways to work out of the predicament. /tg/ suggested a myriad of neat ways to break free, ranging from running away forever, to sleeping with the party bard. In general though, the overall consensus was to train in my characters free time, and to stage an intervention.

>>13254401

By the way, if OP fills in the missing info, I'll definitely continue the writefaggotry.

>>13254876
Still gonna make the main character Gabranth?

Scored several Ulric's Fury (or furry) on a keg and now my character is dubbed "Kegsplitter"

>>13254940
...Wat? I think you misposted dude.

>>13254905

My version of Martin won't really resemble Gabranth too much except for some moves and the armor.

>>13254786

Hahahah! I like Canaan!

>>13254759

I approached the DM like people suggested (out of all the advice given I believe this was the best, really, talking to the DM about it helped everything), and tried to figure out how to work around the problem.

At first I got my guy to try actual training for things like strength, without the other servants in the house knowing (lest the tell the lady of the house). The problem was, that as much as my guy could or wanted to train, it wasn't nearly enough to compare to the amount the others (namely the paladin) gained/leveled by actual leveling. So that was that plan kaput nor even a significant amount of time after it began.

Another option that was much more viable was to contact old allies and hire mercenaries to assist in saving the day for the party when and if they got overwhelmed. This proved to be much better and manageable, and before long I got something of a small army of capable bodies.

Not everyone I wanted mind you, the two at the top of the list were busy or taken by the party, but most everyone was available at requesting the DM.

>>13254962
Just messin' with you man, you're writefaggotry's pretty good. Too bad it sounds like OP's char. had a bad end. :(

>>13254977
Fuck, I have to go. Hoping this thread'll be done when I get back.

>>13254977

So after lots of careful planning and organizing which was still quite difficult (the fucking head maid is a real bitch), my guy had everything ready, so now it was just to keep the paladin in the dark and out of my pants, and play the waiting game. Which didn't take too long thanks to the DM, and the reckless actions of the party bard.

So when it looked to be about the right time, me and my own little NPC party rode out. Sure I was going to be in big trouble with my wife, probably a beating, but hey... I was going to save the day!

>>13255208

So with the DM's help our little group basically tracked the party for a few days waiting for trouble to overtake them. Luckily it took less time than for word to reach the paladin that my guy had left the house, and thanks to the bard they were knee deep in likely TPK.

And then boom, over the hill on horses and carts and shit, we rode like the Light Brigade, except successful.

We shit kicked them orkoids like a collection of ugly asses. And there my dude is standing on top of a big pile with the sun behind him and looking like an awesome Tager lookin' motherfucker. But... that just made him more of a target.

>>13255382

Despite the DM being a huge help, I have a feeling that his sort of orchestrated but anyway so the guy's looking like the hero and the group is all sparkle-eyed at seeing their bro again. Maybe even the paladin, but it was short-lived.

The orkoid leader decided to show up and was pissed all his army was being decimated, and attacked the person he deemed most responsible, IE the guy looking like he saved the day.

He charged up the pile of KO'd/dead shlubs, and crit-ed my guy in the back. And then the fight started.

My character could hold his own, but it was a losing battle (a boss enemy appropriate for the group, who had been leveling while I hadn't), and if it weren't for the intervention of the paladin (most apt to drop her fight and storm through, because she had the most to lose), my guy would be dead.

Thankfully though he just got unconscious-made.

>>13255539

The battle was won though, and after my guy got taken care of, he woke up to the celebrations of the party (it was pretty much the battle to wrap up the quest/arc). Oddly enough the paladin was absent, so it was actually nice and great-like. It was later that night though that she decided to make an appearance, and it wasn't pleasant.

While most everyone took it as a good sign, she used it as the prime example of why my character shouldn't be out. If it weren't for her then I'd be dead.

While I had done everything right and effectively saved the day, and helped everyone and shit, it had more or less the reverse intended effect on the paladin which was all that was supposed to matter.

She couldn't take out her anger on my guy because of his state, but she made clear that if she couldn't keep him safe as it was and he wouldn't obey her, then she was going to remove the danger from the equation altogether, and he was going to be locked in a tower for the rest of his days.

Needless to say I was worried. I would have preferred a savage beating.

>>13255710

So once things quieted down, she took him back home, and quite literally chained him up and locked him in the attic till she could figure out what to do with him, having the maids feed him and stuff so she wouldn't have any interaction.

At this point, despite all the cool stuff he'd done and the events to transpire, I figured this was it, my characters ending was him chained away in the attic of the family estate out of sight, out of mind, and I'd be stuck playing the fagballs new character.

But no, she maintained that because my level of action had been so great, a necessary reaction was required. My character might have met his end, but not yet.

>>13254386
>I love you, that was the best advice ever.

FUCK YEA.

>he snapped asunder and broke the paladin's heart.

Wait, wut?

>>13255805

I do not like this paladin, Sam I Am.

>>13255805

It didn't happen until about a week later, but when it did it was violent and abrupt. I was able to ascertain that some guests had arrived, given the hurried nature of the servants. Just who though, wasn't clear.

About that same day I believe, in come several knights heavily armored head to toe in thick plate. They drag my guy down to the basement (where one of the old cells had been cleared out, probably beforehand). I figure something bad's about to go down, and though it did but not in the way I imagined.

My guy is sat at a table in the dim light, with the knights standing about, and one of them begins the conversation. Her voice gives it away, and I realize these are all knights of the order. Either my guy's wife summoned them, or they decided to intervene when they found out what happened, but either way here they were now, and they were scary ass hell.

So began the interrogation.

>>13254364
>Anyone remember that?
Yes, unfortunately. Wish I didn't.

>>13255891
Sounds like their "paladin" status is about to be called into serious question.

>>13255891

If anyone's read 1984, where they try to convince the guy that 1+1=3 through torture and brainwashing, it was basically like that, with my guy and these knights. Like I said, I believe that the DM had orchestrated this early on, to have the scenario pan out like this for the most drama.

---

So they talked about the stuff he had done, how it was unacceptable, and how harsher punishments should have been doled.

I said that was bullshit and that I wasn't some girly-boy to be chained beneath a bunch of women and my wife, while the majority of society went on normal-like.

They compared how much more capable my wife was, and made clear that in marrying her, I married into the Order as well. My life and It were one and the same now.

So it pretty much just degraded from there, because of my constant denials and refusals, they eventually became less and less civil, and resorted to more aggressive interrogation, torture even.

I later learned that my wife had been just outside the door huddled over crying, trying her best to keep herself from breaking in and killing them all for treating me poorly. Not sure if that counts for anything.

>>13255985
>Their version of chivalry includes torturing the lesser sex for wanting to have some freedom.

Et tu, Brute? Then Fall paladin!

I believe I should mention, that despite all the other threads and the images posted to related, I've never really made the degree of appearance the knights of the order have. Like there have been pics of armored women and stuff, but it's allot more like pic related. They're mostly hardened soldiers, and covered in thick solid armor, you can't tell by looking that they're women. That's sort of the whole point I guess. Much the same with the paladin, as with the rest of them, you can't tell their gender until they speak.

So yeah, it's not so much a chick in armor that fits more to her form, so much as walking tanks of metal, and deep down somewhere underneath is a woman.

>>13255985

Anyway so yeah, my guy was going against the order, it's ways, my wife, their rules, all sorts of other shit, and by effect the will of God.

In most if not all other cases, such a case would be deemed as simple heresy or demonic possession or whatever (something that the Order genuinely deals with regularly, actual demons and shit like that). Though because of my wife's status, they were to take a lighter hand. It was made clear though, that I was not the first to be like this, and there were many other cases such as mine for them to deal with, and it was usually the same way.

So they eventually resorted to torturing and violent interrogation and such, to get clear the message and me to accept it. In this case it wasn't so much my stubborn refusal of their rules, so much as my opposition to God that they were punishing.

Nothing to inflict serious body harm, but it wasn't all sunshine and lollipops and rainbows.

>>13255985
She was crying outside the door? It means that she's torn between you and the order's actions. It's a start.

>>13256077
Just out of curiosity, what kind of torture? Did they just rough you up with their fists? Or did they use tools?

>>13256077

Just to point out, they're not as evil looking or anything, but around or above that level of armor, is the idea.

---

As an aside, I'd like to note that I had at least considered something like this, and so had more or less a working plan for any such situations. As some people suggested, breaking down would have a desired effect in the long run.

I suppose the DM had something of a similar idea too though, because the further and further things got, I had to make rolls and saves for "sanity damage" or fortitude or whatever. So while I had intended to play along with things for story and drama, it was turning out that my character himself was actually breaking down as a result.

And so by the end my guy was brought to a diminished heap of murmuring about compliance to the Order and deliriously crying for his wife. He had already been stripped by now, and it was about at this time they branded him.

On the left side of the chest, the symbol of the order superimposed over a big cross. To demonstrate, I belonged to (or more actually was property of, I believe) the Order. So at last I had been broken down, like a horse. Now my guy needed to be broken in.

And that was where my wife came in.

>>13256187

My rage is palpable.

>>13256187
...sex?

>>13256220
At this point, I think it counts as rape.

>>13256187
Man, I don't care if this really happened or not. I'm at the edge of my seat hoping that the chick does the right thing.

>>13256226
Oh, so that does end up happening, after all.

The Bard must be having a "just as planned" moment.

F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5 FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

>>13256187

And so, they summoned my wife, who tried her hardest possible not to keep crying at the sight of her husband a broken crying mess, delirious and crawling towards her for help.

They made clear what needed to be done, although I assume they had beforehand, but just to reassure her. And so they left, and my guy was holding onto her leg like a scared child. By now he couldn't tell which way was up, and barely in his right mind. He was just broken down and bleeding, a world of pain and his wife was the only familiar thing to offer safety from it all.

She maintained a stoic demeanor throughout though and simply went through the motions. Which were, to throw him off her and remove any leftover tatters of clothing on my guy and hold him down. She was wearing a formal robe but did not need to take anything off, she could do what she needed in what she was wearing.

And so to my horror, she proceeded to make love to my character, holding down his broken shaking form against his pleading to stop. All the while she just kept a straight face, and only replied that "It's for your own good." and "Don't fight."

And so that was how their love was expressed, their marriage consummated. Forcibly, after torture in a filthy dungeon, with as little love as possible, if any.

Apparently this was the response deemed necessary by the Order representatives, after my guy had been broken down and convinced of his inferiority and dependence. And it worked. By the end, my character took enough sanity damage and was basically a vegetable, just lying there shaking till she felt she had done what was required, and even after that, when she left and convened with the others waiting outside.

>>13256409
So... "paladins", you say, did this?

Is your campaign using some sort of highly nonstandard alignment setup?

>>13256409

Ohhhhh.

Oh, I don't think I'm up to writing a happy ending now. No, sir.

>>13256427
Well, seeing that they are women in a position of power I see nothing out of ordinary here.

>>13256409

>>13256139

Beatings as well as other nasty somethings and others. Nothing like the rack or iron maiden, but lashes sure.

It is important to note, that these were the equivalents of the Orders inquisition, hence the heavy handed response. Normally no such measures would be taken, and my wife only contacted them about seeking assistance on what to do. But because mine was a persistent problem, and the wife was an important member, they sent the inquisition without my wife's knowledge.

She thought it was just some friends, or even other men, to help her convince me, but one day the knights showed up, and she couldn't really do anything after that, they just took over the situation and told her what to do. She knew things were bad the moment they arrived, but it was out of her control by then.

>>13256259

Yes, if it's any coincidence, the Bard wrote a poem/song to commemorate the event, which she learned the details of from the paladins squire.

She calls it "Recompense for the Rebel" and likes to sing and dance it when the paladin isn't around.

Use my standard bad ending then.

Broly, he destroys the planet. The end.

This has better end with some Griffith-levels going insane from torture and making pacts with demons.

>>13256409
At this point, my reaction as a player- assuming that I wanted to stick it out- would be to say that the sanity damage has split my character's personality.

He now has a "protector" personality which emerges whenever anyone in the order- or even resembling them- is nearby and acting in an official-ish capacity. It is extremely subservient in its actions and just takes it whenever abuse is heaped upon him until the people who hurt go away.

The other is the person who married the paladin originally and could never have believed that she'd do that to him, and has no memory of it. It's out most of the time, except of course that whenever there's any indication that he's in danger the other personality will grab it by the neck and lock it inside his head to keep it safe and and happy and still loving the paladin.

Most excellent, OP. At first, your opening statements made me worry about what had transpired, but now that you've thoroughly explained what has transpired thus far, it seems to me that the DM is setting up the Order to be the BBEG with this moral event horizon. I was a big supporter of that idea in the last thread.

Unfortunately, what happens from here is pretty much entirely out of your hands and in the Paladin's with outcomes varying greatly. At worse, with a seemingly high probably of occuring, she remains overall unchanged by the ordeal and lets the status quo continue, bringing the plot to a halt and making your character entirely hopeless. What I'm hoping for, though, is that your torture becomes the turning point for the Paladin to finally oppose the Order, which can work in two main ways. On one hand, she can take you and flee, undoubtedly triggering a relentless hunt by the Order when one of their own goes rogue. This would eventually lead to the other path where the Paladin takes the fight to the Order itself. Along the way, she can find some way to make you better, if possible.

Do continue pestering your DM on this matter, as it's pretty much the only thing you can do, at this point. He, in turn, will manipulate the scenario and guide the Paladin toward making the right decision that will lead toward awesomeness for everyone involved. This story shall not go to waste!

Also, the Bard needs to be punched in the ovaries extra hard now.

>>13256427

Well like I said, things were never supposed to go this far.

It just ended up that the actual legit evil members of the Order got involved. Evil members who still serve God, but do horrible things and are usually tasked with things like burning heretics and combating demons.

They showed up when the paladin expected priests or friends, and at that moment she knew things were fucked. If she didn't obey them, they'd just kill everyone in the household and claim demon taint, or whatever reason they pleased.

It is of course important to note, that these individuals are few in number, and kept largely separate from the dealings and locations of the Order. They're the ugly head that comes rearing when ugly work needs doing.

>>13256481

There is only one thing to do now.

>>13256510

Those fuckers need to DIE. Make that a future objective: Hunt down the whores that did this to me, and kill the shit out of them.

Also, consider shifting alignment to Chaotic Evil. After what you went throgh, going crazy is understandable. Going violently crazy is awesome.

>>13256582
THIS. Alignment shift to CE, but keep up the charade.

And let the shit hit the fan at the right moment.

>>13256582

Agreed. Brimstone and hellfire for all.

>>13256409

As a side note, up until that point, my character and the paladin hadn't actually had sex, despite being in love for a time before, and being married for a time until.

My guy's reasoning was that he didn't want her to get pregnant, lest he be then made to stay home and raise the kids, aka total permanent character death.

Her reasoning, made clear in passing, was that she didn't want to injure my guy in the act, due to the significant strength differences. Which as it turned out was a valid concern, because during that first time she fractured his spine. I'm not sure if it was because he was between her and stone floor (perhaps a bed would wield different?), but though he received medical attention after, it left a lasting impression.

---

So with that, my guy had been broken down by the inquisitors, broken in by his wife, branded and made subservient property of the Order.

For them at least, job well done. After my guy's wife finished up with him, she left to convene with the others, I image to discuss the situation from there and assure her it was the right course of action, as well as congratulate her and hoping for a successful conception, all that stuff.

Meanwhile my guy was left used and lying broken physically, emotionally, and mentally by the love of his life in the dungeon of his own house.

>>13256510
I think by this point there is only one thing left to do.
Ask another player to intervene, someone you have been friends with for fucking years who's PC would object to this seriously; have them save you, deprogramme you and get you back on your feet somewhere safe, if they can do this, you still have a chance, otherwise...well...PC is fucked.
After that...shit seriously needs to go down.

>>13256614

God damn it, this is pissing me off. It's always been a weakness, I guess, to take these things too seriously...but I can't just sit here. No. This shan't go unpunished.

>>13256614

It wasn't his wife that took care of him after, rather the maids that cleaned him up and got him medical attention, taking care of him till he was capable of moving about.

Not that it made a difference though, he just laid in bed all day not moving or responding to anyone, or eating or drinking. It was at the orders of the lady of the house, his wife, that they force feed/drink him when they went to her informing her of the situation and that he would die if not seen to.

Unfortunately, a few days later the paladin left to return to the party and continue on. And the whole time she had not seen or visited my character once. Although, that was probably for the best.

During that time and after, it was just that maids that kept him company and tried to help him however they could. Dressing him or taking him for walks, etc...

Even the head maid seemed sympathetic to his situation.

I'd like to point out something. Now, this thread seems fairly civil and on tracks.
...But what would the thread be looking like right now if the genders in the story were reversed?

Gentlemen, I present you: Double Standards.

>>13256708
Oh, we know it. It has been pointed out a couple times that if a male paladin treated a woman like this, his ass would fall down to Lawful Neutral so fast he'd think he jumped off a cliff.

>>13256708
And this is why chivalry's death is a good death.

>>13256704
Wait... She just goes off adventuring again?

But.... my awesome fight-the-Order plan...

FUCK.

>>13256708
If this was someone's story about their female PC falling in love with another PC they knew was a little misogynistic but they thought had gotten past that, then marrying them and getting locked up, tortured, and raped... I'd be raging pretty much exactly this hard.

Can't speak for how the thread would look, obviously, but my reaction would be mostly the same.

You need your guy to come out of his broken state, tricking the maids as his strength returns, and grows, fueled by hate and spite.

Eventually exploding out from himself murdering the servants who let it all happen, and track down tht bitch who used to be his wife. :D

>>13256735
But now is the perfect opportunity to unsleash the BLOOD AND CHAOS. It's not like he's a Level 1 Commoner, and who's at the house? A bunch of maids.

Seriously, this is like the most perfect excuse and opportunity ever to play CE.

>>13256704

During the time the paladin was away, the maids did a fairly good job of helping my guy (his characterization was more or less out of my control, his sanity was destroyed and wasn't recovering).

That is, he didn't remain in bed like in a coma. He still needed to be fed and dressed and taken to the bathroom, but they didn't need to lead him around by the hand all the time anymore. After seeing that he was alright, they could just let him go and he'd wander around while they could work.

They might need to let him out if he was stuck at a door, or take a break to find him when he got lost or fell down stairs or something, but in general it was life as usual in the estate, with the addition of a somewhat needy yet docile housecat, if you will.

He still didn't respond to anyone though, and they often found him rocking or crying in corners. All in all it was deliciously tragic to witness, the paladin had left thinking things would be alright and back to normal.

She regretted it to no end, spending the whole time adventuring only halfheartedly and grieving, barely leaving her room/tent. Still though she assumed that this was a bump in the road so to speak, and once she got back she'd find a Stepford Husband, as the various members of the Order had told her.

>>13256774
There is only one problem. As far was we know know, he's broken. The fact that his wife, the supposed love of his life, had him tortured to force him to her will, and then violently raped him kinda did a toll on his mind.

>>13256793
I swear, when she comes back and sees that you really aren't any better, she better have a fucking breakdown.

>kinda did a toll on his mind.
thatsthepoint.jpg

Go insane, recieve CE

F5 with the fury of a thousand suns.

>>13256814
That requires that he have mind left to go insane with.

>>13256773

My sustenance is...true HATRED.

Alternate route: decide in the long run that even they are unworthy to uphold the order. They are imperfect. They are flawed. They are hypocrites.

Even they sin.

Decide they must be removed. You will judge them.

>>13256498
>>13256735
>>13256811
And furthermore, NO, don't just throw yourself into CE! It'll be the true death of your character, and you'll destroy any possibility for a good ending to still come out of this!

Learn houses layout, Barricade, Set up maid corpses as traps, Trap female paladin, torture, rape and kill

>>13256854
But massive amounts of slaughter IS the good ending!

>>13256862
If the campaign consisted of mostly herping and derping around, sure, but this is too much serious business.

this actually seems to be one of the few times it is okay to go full crazy.

>>13256793

When she got another downtime break from adventuring, she returned and it was beautiful.

Basically the maids had to "reintroduce" my character to the paladin like he was a puppy or something getting to know a stranger. She returned one day, and without wait ran looking for him happily, finding him pressing keys on a piano, and ran up and hugged him. He didn't notice until it happened, and immediately he started shrieking and crying, fighting his hardest to get away till he fell from her arms and crawled backwards away shaking till he hit the wall and curled up in a ball.

After that she took a little more care, and so would be at one end of a room or garden and have the maids bring my guy in. He'd be trying to run or pull away though, whining and crying, but made to be there or interact with the paladin.

After about a week, it was at the point at least where he could be left with her and not run away. Though he still tried to avoid such situations and had to be forced there in the first place. And in general, he started shaking violently when she was around, and whined and drew away from touching.


At first arriving she was high-spirited and happy to see him. But when she began to realize overtime that he wasn't playing a game or pretending, that he was really like this, it progressively had an effect on her.

In trying to confide with the head maid, even she made clear to the paladin that it was a mistake to go this far as she had done.

>>13256917
YES, SHE'S BREAKING!

>Pally returns home.
>Finds husband has barricaded himself in some room.
>Pally forces way in.
>Moment of clarity when his eyes meet hers
>PC goes insane, starts screaming and screaming and screaming

How's that for a Stepford Husband?

>>13256917
It still hasn't hit her yet that she done goofed?

KILL WIFE
KILL SERVANTS
BURN HOUSE DOWN

KILL ORDER
MAIM ORDER
BURN ORDER

KILL MAIM BURN

>>13256943

Ah, I see reality is as glorious as my dreams. :3

>>13256917
Man, I know this is what she deserves, but dear God is it depressing to read.

>>13256945
Me thinks her submissiveness to the Order is even deeper than that of the ideal husband.

I'm on the edge of my seat here.

>>13256009
Sounds like real chivalry then.

>>13256986
Well, OP did say she was a relatively high-ranking/important member, so it may be a little harder than most to deprogram.

Pic related: paladin's face at this moment.

>>13256917

Eventually the two were left to dinner one night, and talking of things that had happened in the world or adventuring (more or less talking to herself, my guy neither said nor responded to her at all, just looking at a patch on the floor or something) though of note she would talk or ask questions or laugh to herself at something funny but at no response she would sigh or get a pained look (with the despair increasingly showing on her face), she felt things had gotten to the point where she could try to move further along once more. After all, they had been past that specific point before.

So after dinner and her talking was done, she carried him to the bedroom, carefully undressed him and tried to make love again. She approached it entirely differently, trying to take things slowly so he was comfortable, as well as try to make it passionate/pleasurable. Still though the response was the same, she could put her all into it as much as she wanted, but my guy just lay there with a dead look in his eyes, crying silently and shaking. And of course right there was the great big brand mark on his chest staring her in the face, still not fully healed and an endless reminder of what she had done.

She did what she wanted then put him to bed with her, doing everything she could for the past few weeks to shower him with love and compassion, culminating at this moment as she held him in her arms and drifted to sleep. Plagued by nightmares she was though.

And he did not sleep at all.

This shit is sad, yo.

this is delicious

>>13257087

I can't help but be both horrified and jealous about your group's set up. As a DM, I'd have been very much 'haha what the fuck no' about the time that the paladin wants to chain him to the wall. On the other hand, I'm impressed that you guys could take this along this far without group implosion.

>>13257063

It was at this point one of evil paladins who'd done this to him was passing by the town due to chance, alone. She thought she might come by and check out how her work had gone.

Upon seeing the situation, she murmured that normally the man was better by this point, like a 50s housewife. She admitted they might have gone a little too far.

My wife of course freaks out and asks who she is to do something like this to him.

"We're the Aristocrats."

>>13257063
>So after dinner and her talking was done, she carried him to the bedroom, carefully undressed him and tried to make love again. She approached it entirely differently, trying to take things slowly so he was comfortable, as well as try to make it passionate/pleasurable. Still though the response was the same, she could put her all into it as much as she wanted, but my guy just lay there with a dead look in his eyes, crying silently and shaking. And of course right there was the great big brand mark on his chest staring her in the face, still not fully healed and an endless reminder of what she had done.

WHY WOULD SHE DO THAT.

THAT IS A HORRIBLE IDEA.

FUCK I AM MAD.

>>13257120
YOU MOTHERFUCKER

>>13257120
Congratulations, /tg/ officially hates you.

>>13257120

>>13257120
SON OF A BITCH

>>13257120

10/10

(claps)

>>13257120
I believe the Paladin has just been told...

>She did what she wanted then put him to bed with her
She actually fucked him again, when she had broken him that severely and knew exactly what she'd done? What the fuck is going through her mind at that point, "Well, I broke him pretty badly, but he's at least still good for this"?

The rest of her actions thus far have mostly been screwy but mostly understandable, but that is fucking SICK. Bitch must die.

>>13257120
...

>>13257162
the first and only time that I've supported the DM stating that the paladin falls.

And he doesn't.

>>13257162
I think it's more of her naivety in believing that loving sex could make up for what she did wrong and make everything better. Probably something that can be blamed on her 100% Order upbringing.

>>13257120

Well, goddamnit

>>13257120

I must know. Has this been the plan the entire time, or did you deviate into this at some point when the paladin player become reasonable?

>>13257063

From that moment on she made it a point to take care of him herself, dressing him, feeding him, washing him and taking him to the bathroom, walking him and carrying him down stairs. She may have even made love to him once more while washing with him, but that scene was vague so I can't be sure.

Not that it mattered though, I wasn't even really playing the character anymore. As stated, his sanity was destroyed.

Despite her best attempts, nothing was changing, and now even more than before she was losing heart and hope. She prayed more often, spoke and slept less, regarded things with lessened interest, other than her extreme focus on her husband and trying to fix together his pieces.

Eventually it came to fruition during a walk through the gardens one day. She took him to sit with her beneath oak where they first kissed. She laid him down on her lap, stroking his hair and looking across the rows of pretty plants, talking about this and that. Eventually it just came to silence, which after several minutes she broke.

She had become too desperate, and broke down asking me what could still be wrong, begging me to respond or tell her, pleading that she would do anything and everything she could just to make things the way they once were. She drew my guy close to her and begged.

That fucking DM, right then and there, he made my guy regain a point or so of sanity, enough that I could have some effect on what he did. But I already knew my answer.

>>13257177

This anon just posted

>mfw

>>13257120
By the gods.

We've been trolled hard.

Somehow I saw this coming with the setup being way too perfectly crafted for /tg/.

>>13257120

Pic related, you magnificent bastard.

>>13257120
>>13257120
>>13257120

Oh man, do I have to put on a trip now?

I really don't want to.

>>13257192
And the dead-eyed shaking and whimpering while she pawed at him didn't tip her off that it wasn't going to work? Loving sex was actively failing to produce any positive response, so she decided to ride him while he sat there and silently cried, thinking that it would somehow HELP?

No, no one is that naive. Unless she's got a Wisdom score of around six, she can't possibly be that stupid, either. She knew what she was doing, knew that it wouldn't help, and did it anyway.

Bitch must die.

Disregard that, in the future consider a tripcode while storytiming.

Wait...
>>13257218
...
>>13257120
Oi! Faggot! Shut the fuck up until the story's over!

>>13257218

Oh, false alarm. STATUS GREEN, GUYS, WE HAVE NOT YET BEEN TROLLED HARD.

>>13257218

>>13257275
I don't know about that. I'd say we were trolled plenty hard, it just wasn't the OP doing the trolling.

What system are you playing, OP?

>>13257250
THIS. Stab her in the throat when she least expects it, burn the manor, go CE, take levels in Barbarian.
Your endless hate will be the wind that blows a tsunami of vengeance.

>>13257120
OH WHAT THE...

I JUST...

GODDAMN YOU, OP. WELL FUCKING PLAYED.

>>13257275

That was fucking amazing troll timing.

>>13257288
>>13257318
>>13257321

Yes, I'll admit. I feel damn hard for that. So hard, that I'm all the way past mad and back around to acceptance of my presence in a trolling master.

I'm not sure what happened there, it seems the thread was derailed.

Nevermind I guess.

>>13257218
And all was safe again. Continue.

>>13257247
After the 10/10 master aristocrat troll, I don't think we'd mind. There are tripfags who tripfag because they can, and there are tripfags who tripfag because they have to*. Then again, 4chan generally hates tripfags on principle anyway, I mean, there's even that secure tripcodes are for jerksb anner, so... rock and a hard place.
*See: Nurse-kun.

>>13257349
I think we know better this time.

>>13257349
You. GTFO. We aren't falling for your tricks a second time.

>>13257349
You are also a troll. 4/10 no where near as good as the first one.

>>13257247
Well... Looking at >>13257349 , you should probably start.

Oh god it's 4 am but I can't go to sleep yet, don't leave us hanging there man

>>13257375

That was actually me.

>>13257413
Oh... Many apologies, then. Please, continue with your engrossing but utterly depressing story.

>>13257413
FINISH THE FUCKING STORY, MOTHERFUCKER

It had been the same dream for nearly a year.

It was always the same location. A pristine hall of court, as if carved from marble, some strange, alien light shining down, blurring her vision. Always the same group of men and women dressed in white, expressions blank, seated behind her in many rows, to both sides. Always the same speech and the same movements.

Always the same trial.

"You are on trial for the following crimes," the presiding judge droned, reading off a curl of parchment.

"Guilty," Elizabeth whispered under her breath, because it always ended the same way.

"Wrongful imprisonment, physical and mental torture, rape..."

"Guilty," she whispered again.

"...assault, wrongful use of authority...my, this is quite the list."

"Guilty."

The judge rolled up the parchment, handed it to a servant with sharp shoulders and clouded glasses. "Now...will the victim's lawyer present his argument?"

Regardless of whether or not identities have been stolen by trolls, we shall remain here until we hear the rest of the story.

>>13257449
Goddammit, save the writing for AFTER OP is done with the story!

>>13257465
>>13257449
I agree. Good Man who art Titanium, there is a time and a place. We shall observe you exquisite storytelling in good time.

>>13257349
Well, we DO have a deep love of brilliant conspiracy theories. A well written multi-thread trolling effort does appeal to our fancies. And this narrative does have our dander up already, so assuming that something this horrific was the result of a brilliant troll instead of an actual playsession is almost an easier sell.

So what did you say? I could honestly use some closure on this issue.

>>13257492
>>13257465

Fine. I shall wait. Should really finish wrapping anyway.

>>13257218

She was leaned over, clutching what was left of the love of her life to herself begging for some response or sign that I was still there. Without moving or looking or doing anything I answered.

"Why did you marry me? Why are we still married?"

Those were the first words out of my mouth in a few months I believe. And she knew it. Understandably it took her a moment to respond from the shock.

"Because I love you! I married a man I loved more than anything in the world, I want to know if he still exists!"

Again my response was as dead and monotone as before.

"There was once a man who loved you with all his heart, with every fiber of his being. But you chipped away at him bit by bit, and the more he tried, the more he gave, the more you fought, till there was nothing left. Because you were so much stronger than him."

She took it like an icy dagger through the heart, her breathing becoming shaky as she fought back the tears.

"N-no! It's not true! Everything I did, I did because I care, to protect our love!"

"As did I. I have given all I am, and I am no more."

With that she drew in sharply, pulling him closer and tighter, before letting go and running off crying. And my guy just remained there till the maids came to collect him.

---

Forgive me if any of that reads poorly, it's how I recollect the conversation went.

>>13257570
...damn. Just, damn.

>>13257570
And so it was the beginning of the end.

>>13257570
>"I have given all I am, and I am no more."

Manly tears OP.

>>13257570

She should've manned up.

good job, op.

I hope you destroyed her inside as much as she did to you.

>>13257570

Oh, yes, this story is well-deserving of my squeaky, boyish rage. Are you done telling the story?

>>13257652
Patience, my friend. Patience. Hear it all, so you may more perfectly craft you own tale.

>>13257570

After that, the wife didn't leave her room for a good few days. I could control my character a little bit now, but I didn't really change the behavior, it kept driving home the effect when she asked of me.

I spent more time with the head maid, whom always hated me, but turned out to be pretty cool girl. Really just to pass the time, but it came as an added bonus.

Also out of the blue the stupid ooze mage came to visit (replying to the summons I sent requesting her aid in the big damn heroes moment), a few months late. Humorously enough, our mental/emotional levels were about the same, so she was the one so far after the initial "breaking in" by my wife, that my character most related to. It was only for half a day though before she left again, not being needed.

In this way it was kind of funny that despite my mental ineptitude, my character more or less acted as the house representative along with the head maid, while the wife was in seclusion.

>>13257652
I think it'll be over when he says it's over.

Hard to say how much heart-wrenching is left, though .__.

>>13257675

ooze mage?

>>13257675
>our mental/emotional levels were about the same

Wat. Who the hell is this chick, and why the hell did you ever contact her in the first place?

>>13257675

Wait, the maids are girls? In a place where women are in command?

>>13257724
There are butlers and manservants, are there not?

>>13257570
There is only one thing left for him to do now.

He is empty. But he has enough sanity to remember what was, and envy what could have been. In a fit of madness, fueled by the the last remnants of sanity you have left, you embark on a mad quest to unleash forbidden power and take it all back.

Rewrite your fate.

Take back the future that should have been yours.

You are the true villain. It's you.

>>13257751
And don't forget to rape Caska.

>>13257675

And so it continued like this for another week or so, until it was holding the party up. In response the paladins squire came to the estate to see what the situation was. She always regarded my character with disdain, essentially "corrupting" her master in her eyes. So right away she greeted my guy with hostility till the head maid intervened.

Then she met with the paladin and didn't come out for quite awhile and much shouting was heard. My guy started crying as a result, the some of the maids present holding him and trying to comfort him.

It ended with the squire storming out, and making a beeline for my guy. She threw the maids aside and started beating him, yelling about how this was all his fault, he was a weak piece of shit (and other swears), and how he should just die and she'd like it to be by her hand.

In response (after being thrown into a corner and being beaten) my character just curled up shaking again, bawling all the more and at the tipping point of losing sanity again, actually called out for help from his wife just like the time he was being tortured, although to be fair he was in delirium again.

The head maid was about to splatter the squire across the walls, but out comes the wife charging down the stairs with a sword and shield, smashing the squire away and sending her flying.

>>13257751

No, husband. You are the demons.

>>13257751
Not yet. The point really has to be driven home to the paladin, first. Chill the fuck out.

>>13257784
NO YOU FUCKING PUSSY
THE BLOOD MUST FLOW

>>13257751

Lose all vestiges of sanity.

Cut the branded section of skin from your body and turn it into a mask.

Hunt down all members of the church as an Assassin.

The only thing we have left is hate.

>>13257778
The gauntlet against the Order has finally been thrown!

>>13257778
Smells like a setup.

>>13257748

Yes when I say maids, I mean men and women alike. Most are men, but some are maids. The head maid is a woman though, and actually a medium-level member of the Order. Hence why I always had to be careful around her when trying to level or go against my wife's wishes.

>>13257712
>>13257723

She's a PC/NPC we met awhile back, an arch oozemage. Probably among the upper top ten of enemies we've encountered, except that she was only an enemy by misunderstanding. After the initial encounter, we've met her on and off, and remained friends to the degree that we can call on her for help or info.

Obviously though, she's not very reliable, case in point showing up months late to a summons sent by me requesting her assistance with an urgent matter.

>>13257778

>>13257778
FINALLY.

>>13254364
YOU FUCKING MORONS

HE'S BEEN TROLLING US THIS WHOLE TIME!

>>13257778

Eh. It's too late for her to redeem herself at this point.

>>13257850
But she's now going to do everything in her power to try to do so, anyway, and that includes raising hell with the Order.

>>13257570
Yes! Now THAT'S a MINDFUCK!

OP you beautiful bastard you are required to keep fucking going with this son of a bitch character. You are to soldier on, with the help of the Paladin he will be better, he will be fixed, the two of them will be stronger together when they both realise what brought them together wasn't some dickhead assassin, it wasn't some laws of the order, it was each other.

And then, the next time he arrives at the head of the fucking cavalry that saves the party, she will not berate him for leaving the house, she will cheer with the rest of them.

GOD DAMN YOU OP.

I have to leave in half an hour to go game with my group, but this story is so fucking enrapturing.

Someone archive this shit, I want to know the ending!

>>13257778

She stands in the way to protect me, and OOC I am informed that the head maid is smiling.

The squire retorts with more shouting, what the wife is doing, can't she see she's been blinded by my guy, it's all a ruse, etc... even if it is true, she has her obligations to the order, the state of her husband is unimportant, so long as he can serve as breeding stock.

The wife simply thanks the squire for her service and dismisses her from her service.

The squire is speechless, infuriated, and all manner of other feelings. She promptly challenges the wife to a duel then, as it's customary or something. The wife obliges though OOC I'm worried because the squire is one tough cookie and fully armed and armored, while the wife is just in a robe with a sword and shield.

NPC to the last though I suppose, as I see firsthand just how strong the wife has become during adventuring since our separation. She quite simply decimates the squire, actually destroying much of her armor, which was a gift from the wife. Now it makes sense how she was able to seriously injure my character by accident from just sex, and if trying, could probably easily hug him to death alone.

>Implying I ever had a chance to out-strength her

ROLEPLAYING: YOU'RE DOING IT RIGHT

>>13257942
God damn, what kind of bear woman did you marry Bro?

>>13257778
>>13257942
Damn I hoped that she had killed herself...

Also to sum up this entire story:

>>13257908
http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/tg/thread/13254364
No pictures saved, though, just thumbnails and text.
If someone wants to put this on sup/tg/, then OP is this the last thread you're going to make on this? We need to know if this is Part 3 or the conclusion.

>>13257942
What, is she built like a brick shithouse or something?

Oh and yeah I am the anti-weeaboo troll from eaelier, I decided to play some LoL.

Last game: Rammus 2/17/4. 6 Boots of Mobility. But don't worry I only play in 5 man premades and we decided just to fuck around with no purpose for a game or two.

>>13257942
There's a reason why the Paladin was the knight and her squire was the squire.

Now what's left to wonder is how exactly the rest of the Order will catch wind of this so that shit will REALLY go down.

>>13257996
How could it possibly be the conclusion? There's still so much left to cover!

>>13258007
Ah, those are the best. Sunfire Sundays are a favorite of mine. Entire team is tanks with nothing but Sunfire Capes, and one pair of Boots if you're feeling spunky. It's a recipe for hilarious disaster.

>>13257942

This had BETTER end with you going violently insane. . .

>>13258024
No, this is possibly only the beginning of something TRULY great.

>>13258038
>hilarious disaster
We stopped doing that because we kept winning games like that.

>>13258007
>>13258038
Bah, you scrubs. Back in the good old days we made dagon fives on tanks and mass bashers on int heroes.

>>13257960

While I'm not going to say she isn't strong, it'd be more fair to say that the whole party/game advanced while my character stayed still. So he's still like a normal guy while they're all pretty far ahead, with the paladin simply highest in strength as always.

>>13257942

So the wife sends the squire scrambling on her way in a beaten mess, back to the order to find a new master (she couldn't perform well enough in the duel). Handing her weapons to the head maid and having the other maids clean up the mess from the duel, she returns to pick my whimpering guy up, and carry him to the parlor to get him bandaged and fixed up.

Once done, she gives him a kiss on the forehead before heading off in a hurry. My guy returns to the main hall eventually to see the others, the head maid laughing with another and the others looking pretty content despite what transpired.

Eventually the wife returns, fully decked out in her greatest suit of armor that had never been taken off of display before out of reverence (her old crusade armor, before she joined the Order), and the related weapons. She clears some things up with the head maid, gives the rest instructions, and has everything she needs brought to the front and ready for transport.

My guy the whole time was just sitting on the floor by the door watching everything quietly. Before heading out the wife stops to put a hand on my shoulder.

"Don't worry Martin, I'll be back soon. I've got to take care of some things."

With that she heads out, and holding onto the door while peering out like a scared child (although of note my guy wasn't scared or anything, just a result of his low sanity), and calls after her with one thing.

"Good luck."

>>13258078
Hey now, I played DoTA with my bros back in the day. Favored the Nerubian Assassin personally, that bastard was hilarious. Couldn't bring myself to play with anyone I didn't know though. Entire community is assholes.

Anyway, bumping for OP to continue this tale of awesomeness.

>>13258099
SHIT'S ON LIKE DONKEY KONG

>>13258099

You're confusing my hate! I don't know what to write to justify things anymore.

>She quite simply decimates the squire, actually destroying much of her armor, which was a gift from the wife. Now it makes sense how she was able to seriously injure my character by accident from just sex, and if trying, could probably easily hug him to death alone.

"I Married the Tank: A Roleplayer's Story"

>not arming Martin and letting him come along too
Yep, still say you should have jammed a carving knife into her jugular vein whilst she slept.

>>13258134
To be fair, he's not even in any condition to be brought along. The Paladin just better hope that the Order doesn't send some muscle directly to her estate once she proceeds to piss them off even further.

>>13258133
He made the right choice.

>>13258099
Oh man your group should be happy I'm not you. This can only lead one way and I'd make sure what came out of that way was something truly diabolical if I started regaining sanity.

Manipulating people to your purposes is the most fun I ever have. And I kinda feed off by witnessing or hearing about the misery of others.

>>13258099

Anyway so that's where things ended up last game.

Any suggestions of what I should aim for or plan to do upon my wife's return? I'm not sure what she went off to do, or her success, but I imagine she'll be back soon, she's always been true to her word.

Also keep in mind of my character's state, I can't start leveling again or anything, so nothing drastic like that.

>in b4 suggestions of waiting for her to return, lying on the bed with nothing but rose petals covering up his body

---

Also any questions about the game so far? It's at a pretty hectic turn of events, so I'm not all that sure of what's going on or could happen, but I can defintely answer things about what's happened already, who's who and what's what.

---

Also has anyone seen that new Tron movie yet? It's really good! I just about died when I saw the Daft Punk cameo.

>>13258157
coolstorybro.jpg

>>13258168
Rinzler had some flashy Capoeira moves.

>>13258099

MFW she goes and slaughters all of the inquisitor-types in the order.

>>13258134
Still, this guy's right. SHE MUST DIE FOR HER SINS.

>>13258150
Dunno about you, but I think he'd be closer to his old self with his preferred weapon in his hands.
Give me something that can hurt and someone who's hurt me, and you'll have a wonderful chorus of agonised screaming.

>>13258150
I don't think she plans to leave anybody in a fit state to be going anywhere.

>>13258157
I think you need a hug.

>>13258168

Going CE is still an option.

Just saying.

>>13258168
Leave the manor in the aftermath. Leave her a note, what it says is up to you.
Seek out the other members of your old adventuring party; do what levelling you can along the way.
Hopefully by the time you meet again, things will have changed.

>mfw paladin goes crazy and turns the whole order into a mountain of corpses or dies trying

>>13258168
Continue to bro it up with the head maid. See if you can extract info from her regarding what the hell is happening.

Aim to recover sanity.

Try to get a little more active. Show that he is, somewhat, recovering.

>>13258168
Not much, I suppose. You're still basically a slavering wreck. Still, shit just got manly, even if you're not the manly one right now.

>>13258168
Considering what it seems the paladin is up to and what her state of mind is you can pretty much turn her into whatever you goddamn please if you play your cards right at the right times.

For now I think you should just celebrate that you completed the main goal here: Show the paladin that men are not to be trifled with and not to be fucked over. And that her order is fucked up something fierce.

Leave a note on the table that says "Gone Fishin'"

Never return.

>>13258208
Or alternately, do what I've been telling you to do all thread long: burn the place down, kill everyone, ambush and decapitate your wife with a band of mercenaries to back you up. Just remember to take something shiny from the manor before you torch it, it won't work otherwise.

Since OP is done with his story that fills my heart with double-fisted anger, I will continue mine.

My opinion has not changed.

***

>>13257449

The man sitting next to Martin stood. He looked clean and pleasant. Like everyone else, he wore white - even his skin shone like the skin of everyone else in the hall. "Good morning," he said with practiced drama, folding hands behind his back and walking out on the floor in a crisp, military strut. "Today I intend to prove that this...so-called paladin is guilty of the crime of abusing and destroying this innocent young man." He gestured to Martin, who would never look up and always keep his hands folded and eyes on the table. "This man, who simply wanted to experience the world and bring it some much needed hope. This man...whom the accused helped crush in mind, body, and spirit." He crushed his fingers into a fist.

The assembly spoke unintelligble, hushed words to each other. Elizabeth had never figured out what they were saying all the times she sat here.

The lawyer spread his hands in a shrug. "Of course...you've all heard the talk. Ever since the order was exposed from the inside, you've all become aware of their crimes, which is why I won't dwell on those. Instead, I'd like to jump straight to the testimony. If his honor doesn't mind."

The judge lazily waved a hand, cheek resting on old fist.

>>13258204
Seconded. Although I can't see how that would happen. Judging from his mental state it would take some kind of divine miracle to give him enough sanity to even remember his alignment.

Plus, I'm a sucker for happy endings. Riveting tale OP.

Well, time for me to go do chores. Thanks for the story, OP.

>>13258231
Granted, not exactly in the way initially planned, but it's still shown promise.

>>13258168
>>Also keep in mind of my character's state, I can't start leveling again or anything, so nothing drastic like that

Dude, easy answer.

She comes back and finds him practicing with his sword/weapon of choice. It would be easy to wrangle with the head maid, perhaps he just only really seems animated when he can see his old equipment. Normally he mopes around, mumbles any answers, winces when people approach him. However put his sword in his hand...

It's not acrobatics, it's not a dance, what it is is a practical demonstration of how to harm someone with sharpened steel. He practices every day. He goes outside and sits near the tree, swinging his sword. He comes when called for food, but he first chance he gets he practices again.

Then she returns. He winces away and drops the sword, as if worried she'll think it's an aggressive action.

How does she react? If she's anything like I'm reading, she'll be overjoyed that he was animated, if only for a moment, and then crushed when he returns to how he was.

Then she'll pick up his sword, and train him. She'll be so longing for that man she knew to return, that she would put a sword in his hand and train him.

>>13258247
OBJECTION!

Now that she's realized her mistake, she must live with the guilt of her actions for the rest of her life! Letting her live is a much harsher fate than killing her!

Plus, she's about to go ape-shit on her own Order. Gotta give her points for that.

>>13258276
Yet her own sin remains. A thousand dead paladins and clerics of the order will not heal her 'husband'.

>>13258168
Ignore the "lol kill everything" people OP. You've finally got the Paladin to see the error of her ways, don't throw it all away by RPing the easy way out and making your character go apeshit.

Hopefully she'll come back alive and you two can run away into the sunset together. Over time your character slowly begins to regain his sanity though he's never quite the same. He's quieter, sterner more taciturn than before. Eventually when he regains enough sanity points he cuts off/distorts the brand in a dramatic RP moment.

>>13258276
Sit back down, pantywaist. Her crimes deserve far worse than death.
I'm sure D&D, in most of its settings, has many things that fall into this category...

>>13258099

>>13258134

I'm not going to defend her actions, but I will say that my guy isn't really in a state to be adventuring;

- Severely mentally and emotionally disabled
- Physically weak normally (relative to the others' level), currently emaciated more or less due to not eating
- Currently just got beaten badly by the squire
- Still recovering the initial torture/rape (he still can't walk fully well from his broken back)

I mean the whole dealio with the conversation in the garden and mustering the concentration to see her off with good luck, was a great deal of effort/a one time thing so far. He still needs to heal physically, and even then it will be probably many years before he gets back his mental capacities fully, perhaps never.

One step at a time I figure, at least get better physically, start eating again.

>>13258294
You are suggesting he forgives the unforgivable.
This is far less realistic than what I suggested. And I did give a more peaceful suggestion: time apart. A lot of time apart.

>>13258237

LISTEN TO THIS MAN, FOR HE IS WISE.

YOU MUST DO AS PIC RELATED, AND EMBRACE HATRED!

BLOOD AND SKULLS! MAIM, KILL, BURN!

>>13258298
There's a spell specifically made to show you the most intense pain (or pleasure as the caster's choice) imaginable, the consequence of it being that after you recover from it (if you recover) your senses are all deadened permanently, since you can never feel anything even remotely close to what the spell simulated ever again.

There's another spell that traps you in a world where you're the only being to exist, while your true body will slowly rot and decay as if in a comatose state. You are aware of your surroundings but to you it's all phantoms that you cannot hear, nor interact with.

Just to name a few.

>>13258266
Yep.

Well plans never go as planned. OP has evolved a lot in his own decision making skills throughout the threads he has posted. Without that all of this would have fallen to the ground and died.

I really don't know where OP WANTS it to be taken. But I do know that he can take it wherever he pleases if he does it right. The paladin seems to be breaking down in another way not unlike OPs character. And is most likely going to do something really bad that will make her on the run from the order. OP can literally steer the Paladin towards any goal from then on if he does right by himself.

It all depends where OP wants it to go.

>>13258247

Two other servants of the court led Martin to the testimony stand, a little construction just in front of the table Elizabeth sat at. Like always, her gaze unmercifully pulled towards him to meet his back as he hunched over, attended by the servants. She could speak, she could gape, but the dream never allowed her any other form of control. If this was the dream walking shamans had spoken about...this wasn't it.

Martin's lawyer walked in front of the stand and put on his believable, drooping sad face. "Now, Martin...I know this is hard for you." He spoke as if to a child. "But I would really like it if you helped me out today. All right?"

"Okay." Martin's reply was so faint, so drained.

"What happened after they took you to the tower?" the lawyer asked.

"They told me I was defying their god," Martin said. "They beat me and cursed me until I couldn't move or think properly. Then they branded me with the symbol of their order."

"May we see it?"

Martin turned around, unbuttoning his long shirt. He never met Elizabeth's eyes, but hers met the symbol, scorched deep into his right pectoral. The dream never let her ignore it. The congregation's whispers continued as Martin faced the judge with shirt held open, and the judge bent over, chin rippling with fat as it pressed into his neck.

"Please note that this is the symbol of the order the paladin is assosciated with," the lawyer said, and the scribe's quill danced across his slip of paper. "They take to branding individuals and calling them their 'property'." The lawyer nodded to Martin. "Thank you very much, Martin. You can close your shirt, if you'd like."

>>13258317
This setting has magic healing, does it not?
It's fucking D&D, of course it does.
I'm sure somewhere in that messed-up head he remembers a long time ago, some nice smiling cleric fixing him up good as new.

>>13258274
I like this. Maybe combine it with >>13258294 to a degree. During one of their training sessions he takes an accidental stroke across the chest, and staggers under it a bit. When the paladin inevitably rips his shirt off to get a clear look at the wound it's revealed that it bisects the brand.

Cue, "I'm back, baby," moment.

It's great to see that the story went in the direction I was hoping for after all, OP, but don't get the idea that the Paladin will have everything resolved in just one trip. If that's the case, then the DM is doing it wrong.

The way I see it, the squire has crawled back to the Order to snitch on the Paladin, who departed to defend her actions and you. Considering that she rejected her current Order-sanctified gear in preference of her older stuff, she's probably going to declare separation from the Order altogether.

This, I imagine, is when the real battle begins.

It won't simply be a matter of offing a few evil inquisitor-types. The entire Order will be against the Paladin since having one of their higher-ups go rogue is bad for business. As tough as she is, the Paladin will still not be able to take them on by herself and will have to return to the estate quickly, hopefully before the Order gets there first. Then you and the estate staff (who I assume fully support the Paladin) will have to be evacuated to some safe zone before planning any further actions.

>>13258318
Yeah, I agree it's not realistic. But fuck, I like happy endings. Anyways, Fictional relationships tend to be unrealistic due to the power of twue wuv. Yes mistakes were made, but now that the character has realized her mistakes she can begin to work towards fixing them. I'm not saying it'll be easy or hell, even possible but they should at least try to go for the happy ending.

>>13258352
Also,
>mentally disabled
He's traumatised, not fucking retarded.

work on regaining your character's sanity and back to his former self. If your character still loved his wife when he went insane, make him remember that, and make him remember what she did to him. Never forgive her for what she did, but never stop loving her. Show her some strength of heart man.

>>13258318
>realism
>d&d
pick one

This seems like an apt reaction for the Paladin.

OP, where do YOU want it to go?

>>13258317
1st off I envy your roleplaying and your groups roleplaying.
What happened that your character responded like that to his trama(canatonicly)? Massive failure of will save or just due to how you spoke to your GM about your plans. What has the party been doing while all of this is going on? How is your GM doing all this in game as it seems it's alot about just 2 characters and the other players would get bored.

>>13258317

Let me restate my suggestion:

1. With the DM's approval, start going crazy in a different way. Start fantasizing about killing. Start maiming/scarring yourself.
2. Assuming you have Leadership: get in contact with some mercinaries, the crazier, the better.
3. While the paladin is away, bring in the mercinaries. Slaughter the maids/staff, personally kill and behead the Head Maid.
4. Burn the manor.
5. LEAD A PATH OF DESTRUCTION AND DEATH.

Failing that, completely break the paladin. No forgiveness, no remorse.

>>13258317
You want her to feel dealing with her squire is not enough, you want her to feel that her order must suffer for the path it put her down and the path that put you down.
You want her to embrace the anger she has in her own actions against the order, and with that destroy it, tear it apart piece by piece until she can scatter its ashes to the four winds and never allow such a cruel thing to exist again.
And from there you are the key to her redemption or damnation.
Whether you recover enough to push her along the path to teach equality instead of one gender is stronger than the other, or you change not at all, forever cursing her with not knowing what she must do to bring back the man she loved, tearing the world asunder in hopes that something will work.

There is of course with you going into demonic pacts or some such after she takes out her order and using the new imbalance in the amount of paladins to let the forces of chaos and destruction take over, but that's somewhat lame unless it has a specific reason.

However with the options at hand, I'd say I would wish for her to suffer eternally, but that's more due to personal reasoning than the evidence you've shown.

>>13258357
As for you own actions, I'm afraid that there still isn't much for you to do IC-wise, especially since you're likely to freak the fuck out as soon as any Order goons show up. This is entirely appropriate, though, and I appreciate how you seem to be sticking to this kind of character.

Just keep in touch with your DM on ways this whole situation can be spiced up, bringing up the suggestions we're making here. I imagine that he should already have some things to throw at you, personally, while all of this is happening.

And for the love of God, DON'T go throwing yourself away to CE.

>>13258404
I've been thinking about this but I don't think OP is the kind of person who would do this (same with the retarded MAIMBURNKILL guys) therefore I do not suggest it.

>>13258368

SHE FUCKED HIS BRAINS OUT

Seriously though she must have been clueless if she went through the 'motions' three times before noticing that something was wrong. Or maybe it's like some other people said, she noticed right away, but felt the urge for some quick satisfaction...

>>13258419
Finally some one else who agrees with me. Going apeshit and killing everything is the easy way out. There's more fun RPing to be had by continuing the relationship.

>>13258154
...aside from the whole 'wife being attached to a cult of misandrists and not being above the occasional bout of spousal abuse herself' part. For those parts it kind of sucks.

Well. I do remember advocating that you should do your best to turn your wife around. I think we can probably check that off the list. I think it's safe to say I never expected that bringing her around to seeing your side of things would involve reducing you to the kind of broken wreck that actually benefit from her old overprotective attitude.

What you need to do is focus on getting back in the saddle. This incident has left you levels behind everyone and dangerously low on mental stability. That's not something you are likely going to be able to correct in full, but you can start making some inroads on that. Still, you are playing a severely handicapped invalid, and that's going to limit your options.

On the one hand, you can probably get back into respecting her, but the whole broken back - torture - rape incident is unlikely to go away, even if your character really wants it to. That is likely to stick as a wedge between you for the rest of forever. Which might lead to all kinds of incidents where you're sitting in an otherwise normal situation with your girl and she tries to do something romantic, and then you come to missing the last five minutes, curled into a ball and screaming uncontrollably.

Time apart might just be the best option for this, if you get to the point where you can actually travel.

>>13258426

Look, I'm not saying he HAS to go all MAIM, KILL, BURN, I'm just saying that he must DESTROY the paladin, however he does it. So long as she suffers, dies, or turns evil: it's a win for OP.

But hey, what do I know? I posted>>13258319

>>13258351

Martin just dropped his hands. The lawyer stepped closer. "What happened after that?"

"Elizabeth entered the chamber and we had intercourse."

The lawyer pursed his lips. "The abovementioned rape, the court will notice, taking advantage of a tortured man in order for her to bear a child. No doubt, another body for the order to instill its twisted principles upon."

"That's not true," Elizabeth said aloud, even though she knew the dream would ignore her.

"And after that?" the lawyer asked.

"I was taken home and attended to by the servants," Martin said.

"But I realized my mistake!" Elizabeth slapped her hands against the table, which felt like pressing against a solid mist of smoke. "I realized it was wrong to impose my values on him! I realized it was wrong to torture him and break his spirit just because I was too stubborn to acknowledge his opinion!"

"While she went back to her adventuring party without you, I wager," the lawyer said.

"Yes."

The lawyer's head bobbed, distilling the testimony like he had done countless times before. "Thank you, Martin. You may sit back down." He and Elizabeth watched the servants escort Martin back to his seat, where he resumed his morose task of staring down hardwood.

>>13258442
Maybe faith replaced her conscious thought.

>>13258447
I'm still imagining an awesome moment once he regains enough sanity. He faces her slowly and takes off his shirt revealing the brand on his left pectoral. He then slowly and deliberately takes out his knife and cuts it off, all without uttering more than a grunt. Then he takes the marked flesh and throws it into the fire.

Of course going by his state now, that moment is probably a good distance away.

Actually, with the fact the wrath of the order will soon be coming down upon your house, what's to stop you from bringing up with the DM say... that oozemage you mentioned earlier in her own 'retardspeak' (for lack of better words) happens to alert some of the people who enjoyed working with your character of his current state, so they start trying to assemble again to get you out of this situation and ready for war if they need to be... and just happen to show up just as the first wave of order forces arrive to bring in the wife for interrogation.
Suddenly you have a declaration of war on your hands, assuming they can learn of what happened in time to say "fuck off" to the order.

I just got a brilliant idea.

Find a religion. A more balanced religion that doesn't look more favourably on either gender and ask them if you can be posessed with a celestial to help heal your mental instability. If that works then it has literally solved all your problems at once. Of course this means you might become something like a half-celestial or that something else happens to your character, but that's ok isn't it?

>>13258513
Could bring up one of the creatures from one of the 3e MMs that found weaker adventurers and would strike deals with them.
These spirits were totally benevolent and loved adventuring, but had no physical body of their own, so the deal would be that they would grant the would-be adventurer great abilities and power, and he puts up with a CG occasional back-seat driver living in his body who would share XP with him.
Just a thought.

>>13258447

This. Specifically:
>all kinds of incidents where you're sitting in an otherwise normal situation with your girl and she tries to do something romantic, and then you come to missing the last five minutes, curled into a ball and screaming uncontrollably.
Do that. Never, EVER entirely recover from this. In fact, at the touch of her (or any woman), scream, curl into a ball, and start crying. Never EVER let her forget what she did to you, and what she let be done to you.

>>13258442
I'm wondering just how you were able to manage an erection after all that horrific torture. You'd think being freshly branded and in massive mental and emotional shock would kind of make that sort of thing impossible.

>>13258484
He's IN LOVE with the paladin. Horribly afraid of her and having Nam flashbacks whenever she touches him, yes, but he certainly doesn't hate her. Probably. At least not now; I really don't think he has the mental capacities for serious hate at the moment. The fear is taking up too much room in his head.

>>13258484
Why would he want to destroy her? He genuinely loves her. I'm talking Princess Bride levels of true love. Despite what she's done to him, despite everything the order has done he still loves her even though he shouldn't. Sure he may never be able to forgive her but he may be able to move on.

Sounds to me like the OP is going to go in the direction of developing a romance wherein the Paladin will try to atone for her sins against him, and he will slowly regain who he is.

The best thing that can happen in this situation is for the paladin to be in a position where she is about to be killed, and he's right there. Just as the one inflicting said mortal danger on the paladin is about to kill her, they'll gag for a second and look down to see a blade running through their stomach. They'll fall down, revealing the ragged husband panting, releasing his grip on the sword as the paladin just stares at him as if to ask "Why? How can you come to my aid, after all I've done to you? How can you ever forgive me?"

He'll just stand there, slightly hunched over, and an ironic grin creeps over his face as she begins to tear up. He walks over and hugs her, a tear rolling down the side of his face as well.

"I never did do what you expected me to. Let's go home."

>>13258569
>>13258560
It seems more like he was in love, and now he's unsure, but due to his wracked mental state he clings to what he knew in his previous life, before all the torture, simply because that's the only stability he has anymore.

>>13258442
She probably had heard about this sort of thing from the same brilliant minds at the Order who gave her the "how to break your husband" plan. In her mind, it was supposed to go "the first time after Room 101 is going to be bad, but by time two he'll start warming up and by time three it'll be like it was before, only with less backtalk".

And, you know, she probably didn't want to believe that she'd murdered her husband. Because she did; your character is pretty much an empty shell with just enough of himself left to remember what he's lost.

Don't keep playing this character, though. Start playing a character who's pretty much the pally's therapist, probably a cleric of whatever god would be most appropriate. Either a warforged or a changeling/doppleganger, so that the gender thing isn't an issue.

Alternatively, play a female relative of your now-insane character who joins the party either to force the pally to atone for torturing an innocent person until their mind snapped or to avenge the blood-debt now owed to your old character's family.

>>13258546
Yes exactly. Its the prime time and most cliché story for "and then I/we became evil lol" so do the opposite. Find a force of good to help your mind come back. Find the most powerful and fearsome goodly divine force and let it help you. Invite it inside you and become whole again, but as something slightly different. The more your appearances and overall divine radiance you get the better.

And then you and the paladin will be ready for the troubles ahead. because oh there will be troubles abundantly.

Pic related, be like this.

>>13258577
Possible I suppose, but too sudden. I like the direction you're going but he just wouldn't be better all of a sudden. After he saves her he'd just go back to being a mute again. Maybe say a few words to let her know that he's still in there somewhere.

>>13258569
Fucking humans, how do they work?

>>13258577

No. He can never bring himself to touch her. Or really talk to her. No matter what happens, keep that aversion to physical contact.

>>13258494

The judge shook a fat finger, still reclining on his knuckles. "If I recall correctly...was it not this paladin who exposed the order's crimes out of guilt for her sins?"

"That is correct, your honor," the lawyer said with a curt bow towards the judge. "But sins were committed all the same. She must face due punishment like all the members of her lot. It's only right."

It's only right, Martin.

The judge's hairy brows crumpled, and his big looming mustache twitched. "Yes, yes, of course. And considering this testimony, as well as the examined evidence beforehand, I see no point in continuing any further."

They never assigned Elizabeth a lawyer. She always sat alone.

"Paladin. Stand before me and deliver your final words before sentencing."

She was crying now as she pushed herself up out of her seat. That had never happened before. Her being swam awash in sadness from the start of the dream to awakening, every single night, lingering through the daytime when she found herself re-enacting the terrible things she had done in her mind, unable to think otherwise. But now she was crying, the first new thing that dream had allowed since they began long ago.

OP, if you're still there,

1.what's your INT or similar score?
2.would you be allowed to transfer skill ranks?
3.do you have any skill with bureaucracy?

When you are clearly unable to fight and would lose any fight you are dragged into, there is only one way to do win. You must become the most dangerous man of all.

Those who win every battle are not really skillful. Those who render other armies helpless without fighting are best of all.
- Sun Tzu

>>13258619

Elizabeth moved behind the testimony stand, her fingers curling around its edge. She felt the tears sting but tried to keep a firm look, as always. She had said different things and different passages every time she approached this stand, thinking the dream was just a random gathering of her guilty conscience. But, as time passed, the truth had dawned on her - this was a sign from her god, that she had committed grave sins and that she would continue to suffer if she didn't fully accept what she had done.

Who wanted to accept something they never wanted to experience again?

"I have no apologies to give because none can compensate for the pain and suffering I helped cause," Elizabeth said. "I know that I continue to experience this dream night after night in an attempt to show me the error of my ways. I fully agree. I have made a grave mistake in judgment...harmed the man I love for the sake of foolish beliefs."

She looked over at him, sitting there with a total lack of color. "I was wrong. I will never forget what I have done. And until the end of my days, I will never stop repenting for these sins. If it's a burden I must bear...I accept it willingly."

"She has accepted her fate," the lawyer said. "I trust the punishment will be fitting to the agreement she has entered."

"It will," the judge said.

"Good. Now, I have one more question before your sentence."

The lawyer walked in front of her, sharply turned, and stared. "What makes you think this is still a dream?"

>>13258619
I haven't really been keeping up with your write-faggotry but if anything the Judge's lines and description made me think of Tony Jay voicing him.
And it was awesome.

>>13258633

I now decree that this is how the judge speaks. Like Tony fucking Jay.

>>13258631
...the fact that she's also gone insane, and hasn't realized it?

Good show, Sir Writefag. Good show.

>>13258387

I suppose from here, I'd like my character to recover obviously. Physically shouldn't be too hard, and once he gets in shape to where he used to be at least, the wife will probably take him with her. Mentally though is another issue though, as even leveling up doesn't effect the sanity level nor simple training or anything. It has to be slowly overtime, or in lump amounts because of certain events (the wife confessing her guilt, witnessing the squire being dismissed).

Further out though, I guess getting rid of the Order is a good plan. The only problem being, that there's only about 9 of us PC's, and Elizabeth herself, as strong as she is, is only about 90th-80th in terms of strength in the Order. Though their order numbers about 2000 or more in fighting numbers, so she's better than like 1900 of them, that's still too many to fight with just 9 of us.

As well, despite their odd social/cultural values, they do serve the church and do allot of good work, so they have allies in high places, not just the church itself.


However on our side, we have the King Elizabeth serves, the deposed kingdom of the Rogue, the band guild of the Bard, the followers and the cleric, some other places and kingdoms we've helped, and on top of that certain notorious individuals such as the ooze mage, and the revolutionary, etc...

If we sum up all our forces, we could probably combat the order and it's allies directly, but it would take much, much work to organize something like that for us, over something so seemingly trivial.

>>13258510

Well I doubt anyone from before will work with me now, except for maybe the oozemage, although she would more than make up for the rest of them. She's just kind of hard to get ahold of/pin down.

---

As for worrying about any attacks on the mansion while the wife is away, I'm not that concerned, the head maid is quite strong.

>>13258600
This.
Hell if you really want it to be a twist go all Book of Exalted Deeds on it by having the manifestation first appear as one of your character's hands becoming a flaming sword of judgment, the feathery wings and eyes of golden radiance showing up just before anyone can assuming demonic possession, however this can go in an interesting direction, whether you must permanently become one with the angel (and ultimately warping your mind to its view points, and memories), or if the union can be separated but if it is, that's permanent, and you're unsure of whether you'd return to your vegetative state or not.

>Find a religion
Oh my god that IS brilliant. Religion would be a near-perfect stabilizing factor for what's left of his persona (and not that out the ordinary for what other victims of severe rape and spousal abuse do). Whenever the wold gets too terrifying for you to deal with, you can always take refuge in the fact that there's a god out there who's not a total dick and is going to look after you.

And he gave you some cleric levels to prove it.

>>13258554
Yeah. No matter how much of a 'good end' this might come to, sex is likely ruined for him forever. Probably most forms of human intimacy too. This wasn't just his wife who implicitly sanctioned his torture and then raped him, this was someone who he had been adventuring with for an extended period of time and considered a very close and trusted friend in addition to a love interest. The levels of betrayal in what she did where truly staggering. All the more reason to distrust all people that try to get close to you an place all your trust in a divine source that's not about to betray you.

Maybe you should sneak off to a monastery or some such for your convalesce. Quiet abbeys are good for this kind of thing.

>>13258669
Yeah dude. It may sound a bit boring but I'd say go along for the ride. RP your character slowly regaining his sanity now that Pally has realized how wrong she's been. But still, he'll never be the same. Change his personality slightly once he gets better. Like he's more serious and shit and rarely laughs. Also, someone else suggested this but if he gets into any romantic situation he freaks out. He just curls up into the fetal position and wont budge. RPing the slow and painful healing process between your character and the pally should be hella fun.

>>13258669
I hate to do this but...
>trivial
>implying the fact that the 80th or 90th strongest member of a 2,000 strong army seeing the order as badwrongevil and abandoning its ways isn't going to be a HUGE FUCKING DEAL to the order, especially if she has any social standing that would allow a lot of people to know of this departure.

In essence: while it seems trivial that it's only your character's issue starting it all, due to the power players involved, it can EASILY snowball into something huge, and in all likelihood will. This could, of course, be different if your DM doesn't like to think of things in those terms.

Total war, while should not be hoped for, should be planned for considering the circumstances.
As you'd rather go out with your soldiers and allies in a blaze of glory attempting to take out an oppressive force, instead of being killed in the night when the enforces of the church show up to make examples.

>>13258675

If you DO get possesed by an angel, make sure to go the "Destroyed Mind" route. Leave nothing of the old character.

Imagine it: The paladin goes to find her husband, hearing that he entered a cloister, intending to apologize for everything. She sees him, kneeling at an altar, praying. She rushes over to him, sweeps him into her arm, and blurts out how sorry she is, how it was all a mistake, and how she realizes that men and women are equal.
He looks at her, his eyes aflame, and says: "I'm sorry, who are you, again?"

>>13258600
Add one twist.

The old character's mind and soul are gone. Forever. They died when they accepted the possession.

Make it clear that this choice was because the broken ruin that was once a man was no longer capable of thinking of any other way to help the woman he still loved.

>>13258669
Who needs sanity? Become berserker, turn your sanity into rage with a hellish shriek as you disembowel your enemies.

The paladin then becomes a chain to the last bits of your sanity. She desperately tries to hold on to you as your rage in battle becomes more and more vicious, leaving you a quivering husk after the clash. And in trying to hold on to the love you used to have, you manage to maintain your own little warped sliver of sanity.

I can't help but wonder how the rest of the party will react or have already reacted to what she's done to you, though. I can just see them berating her over it as she starts to get emotional, and then they're all silenced by the meek voice of a man who has been broken and tortured timidly standing up for her in his own little way.

"She regrets it. Isn't that enough for you?"

>>13258669
As hardcore as I imagine the head maid is, there's still probably plenty who could kick her ass. Those inquisitor-types, for example.

But the Paladin probably doesn't need to war against the Order up to their destruction. She just needs to beat them back enough for them to consider her not worth pursuing any longer. Some more potential allies you could probably find, though, are other former-members of the Order who have managed to find a way out, as well as existing members who may have doubts that the Paladin can influence.

>>13258675
>>13258687
And even after taking in the amounts it will help your character, having yourself as a celestially powered superbeing kicking BIBLICAL amounts of ass on a bunch of paladins from a badong order is just too fucking awesome to pass up.

Of course the whole celestial thing can also be played off slowly as you wish OP.

>>13258631

Elizabeth's eyes widened. He had never said that before.

"The Lord always watches his children," the lawyer said, walking towards her, his steps now resounding. "When they do good...when they do evil." He balanced the two ideas like invisible weights with his hands. "And he never forgets. No matter how much good they do...he never forgets everything else."

"Wh-what are you talking about?" Elizabeth asked. "I exposed the order! I saved Martin from madness!"

"Yes," the lawyer said, flashing a big, patronizing smile. "You did! And you were cut down later, remember? Your order wasn't entirely innocent. Some of them didn't deserve to be paladins, especially considering their use of torture and poison and assassins."

Elizabeth's foot shuffled back. "Then I...I'm dead?"

The lawyer nodded. "For quite a while. The departed can't move on until they accept and pay for their sins. The Lord welcomes everyone by his side, but not until they've paid penance. That's just how it works, I'm afraid. Penance equivalent to the sins dealt in life."

"Then it's over. If you're ending this dream, then that means I've gone through penance."

"You have not," the lawyer said. "You've accepted your sins willingly. The dream was meant to show you that. Penance is next." He laid a cold hand on her shoulder. "The Lord never forgets, though. The atonement you've enacted out of your own will during life will count towards that. You will be by the Lord's side soon enough."

>>13258740
>>13258746

HEISNOMOREmind.

>>13258740
>>13258746
You do realize you're advocating total character death, the one thing the OP said he absolutely did NOT want to do, right?
On that note, if he changes his mind about not wanting to go that route, that's when through the help of a trusted other prior to the possession you have a heartfelt note written out, even if the language used is broken from not being used to making complete comprehensible thoughts.
Alternatively the angel-bonded character assures her that his soul has found the only happiness it could hope for by becoming a part of the greater gestalt and giving up its individuality and all the pain that came with it.

>>13258761
Hm, then again, I do like >>13258739's thinking on how this matter can escalate to a bigger conflict...

>>13258740
>>13258746
No.

If anything make it so that you make a speech about how you're another person but still have the same personality. We want the celestial to MEND the mind. Not ruin it.

Damn its hard to find Darksiders Angels.

>>13258772

Nicely done, Titanium.

>>13258772
I'm sorry, but your version is by far, ten thousand times worse than ending ending I can see transpire. I'd even opt for the husband becoming Chaotic Evil and killing everyone than have this ending play out. Just getting my two cents in, but having her pay for her crimes because it was what her god wanted? That religion has got to be the most warped I've ever heard of.

Oh man, that writefaggotry and all that talk about the dude losing his mind to an angel and shit got me really depressed. GO FOR THE GOOD END OP!

>>13258827
I don't think it's what Titanium wants. I think he's just writan for the sake of writan.

>>13258793
This.

Also basing off of the slow recovery as well as angel possession, let's say he does discover religion through all of this?
What's to say the possession of a guardian angel of sorts isn't slow and partial, his mind slowly getting better as his wounds start to heal faster, the final signs before full recovery being the grand burning from his flesh in the kind of grayflames that only appear when wickedness is burned away, the mental form having returned (thought slightly altered in personality), and much stronger (on par if not stronger than the other characters), granting you a returned character.
Of course by slow return, I mean he's still going through the many hassles of everyday life as only someone who has been truly broken can go through, but he's slowly making progress as the paladin cares for him and tries to return him to who he once was, opening his heart and, as a side-effect, letting the angel in.

>>13258755
There's a reason I didn't suggest going paladin (irony of ironies!) if he finds god. The man is not the most physically imposing of characters. He would make a terrible berserk.

>>13258774
Again, not the best way to play it. Better he stick around and still not forgive the paladin for what she did. Every time they're in the same room he need still be there, body AND mind, not letting her move on from that emotionally or otherwise.

And they're still married. He's not walking away from that either, which would make thing a bit harder for her to move on even they DO come to an amicable end to their romantic relationship.

>>13258772

Elizabeth shook. "No."

"I'm sorry." The lawyer looked back towards the judge. "Verdict?"

The judge banged his gavel. "Guilty."

A spark of flame danced on his skin, and it suddenly erupted into wildfire. It whisked down the judge's body, across the floor, and the judge and the congregation, the furniture hall, was engulfed in scarlet fire that shone against the light.

"Full punishment," the judge intoned, the fire blackening his flesh, dissolving it into a putrid mist.

The lawyer stepped in front of Elizabeth, framed her face in his hands. "You must remember," he said, the flame overtaking him, melting his skin, his clothing. "It's for the greater good."

It's for the greater good, Martin. Please.

Elizabeth screamed, knowing it would never end.

***

MERRY CHRISTMAS

>>13258859
One thing I forgot to add.
This recovery of course would not be complete, his warped mind and broken spirit would have its effect of course, perhaps whenever anyone touches or when she touches him he flips out getting as much distance as he can in one quick burst of speed or readies to strike them down.

>>13258886
Never end? Oh come on dude.. :(

>>13258827
That's Christianity for you.

>>13258903

NO, I MAD >:(

He can use the whole "split personality" to his advantage here. Let the celestial destroy the "protector" side of the split mind and take its place. So when he is confronted by the badong paladin order he becomes something else entirely in mind, possibly having this show out from his body and with a voice change.

"THE FORCES OF GOOD ARE REPULSED BY WHAT YOUR ORDER HAS BROUGHT UPON MAN AND HAS BY REQUEST OF ONE BROKEN MAN SENT ME INTO THAT PERSON TO EXTRACT DIVINE RETRIBUTION AGAINST YOUR VILE KIND. REPENT EVILDOERS, SO YOU MAY YET BE SPARED OF THE WORST OF YOUR PUNISHMENTS."

If I were to go the "sell soul" route for healing, I think I'd want to do it like that guy from the other thread based on this did.

Where the character in his weakened state attracts the attention of a demoness. She consoles him and rehabilitates him, she promises to take care of him and never lies to him. In fact she's so kind and caring that he mistakes her for a guardian angel or his conscience. As such no one is suspicious when he responds as to how he got better or survived a sure-to-die situation, "It was my guardian angel!"

But through and through it all, the demoness is just working to corrupt his mind and body and as she gains power he decays more and more. Eventually his body is turned into a gate through which her and her friends can enter this plane, and he just serves as her pet from there on out. Maybe new wife, to pervert the relationship he had with Elizabeth.

And what more, it makes sense, if he's going to have a hand in putting down the Order and parts of the church, which would allow the demoness to thrive.

>>13258927
But she died trying to fix things. That has to count for something, right? ;_;

Cloistered. Cleric. Monk that shit up. See if you can take some vows, despite being married. When and if your Paladin wife finds ye, simply smile with gentle humour and continue with your work.More then anything, vow of silence.

Embrace a monastic life and enjoy the quiet sanity of labor and prayer.

That, or Wizardry. Dark magic, or fel pacts with beings beyond space time. Fuck sanity when you've got Elder Gods backing you up. She raped you physically. Rape the world metaphysically.

>>13258945
>and he just serves as her pet from there on out. Maybe new wife, to pervert the relationship he had with Elizabeth.

Kinky.

>>13258945
Aww dude don't do that.

>>13258952

She's getting less time in the broiler than others will.

>>13258945
>Demon
No. Find a celestial. Find a force of GOOD. Not a force of EVIL.

Seraphim, Cherubim, Virtues, Dominations, Archangels, Souls, Principalities, Powers, Thrones, whichever it takes to get your divinity up and as high as possible. Ascend the divine ladder. Do not descend into the depths of hell.

Fuck, this is better to post than Darksiders right now.

>>13258945
The biggest issue I can see with this is the fact that if demonic taint is found it may be twisted by the church to have her think that this possession was clearly much longer lasting than it actually was, and all the mental torment she went through was all some demon's ruse.
As well as put her own judgments in serious doubt as her slept with said demonic tainted person, multiple times. So my guess would be that it would cause her to either become much more resolved in her original faith than she was before the most recent events you mentioned in this thread, or warp her down the path of a church inquisitor determined to get rid of the taint and curse others like they cursed you.
By far this is the worst end one can ask for.

However if you prefer that over celestial possession, perhaps possession should not be considered at all.

For fucks sake guys, finding God in order to gain the mental strength to deal with your traumas does not immediately default to letting an angelic creature possess his body and erase parts of all of his mind. FAITH DOES NOT WORK LIKE THAT. And mind-erasure is really terrible roleplaying. Just get him to a religious sanctuary and into the hands of some very capable and understanding clerics so he can start getting his brain back together.

So does anyone have any questions about the setting or history of the game? Lore? Characters?

Sorry if someone asked something like this and I didn't see it.

>>13258869
Well, the important part is the whole "not mending" thing.

And frankly, the real reason for OP's character to die, or even be outright obliterated (well, his mind and soul anyway) is to make sure that the paladin can't fix this. Ever. No matter how much she might want to, she's never going to get the chance to atone to the husband she destroyed. She's never going to be able to ask him to forgive her, she's never going to hear his answer, she's never going to have closure for her sins.

Because some things even PCs can't fix when they break.

>>13258998
But it's still never ending?

BRO IGNORE ALL THE KILL DEATH MAIM THINGS!
THERE CAN BE VIOLENCE AND STILL BE GOOD ROLEPLAYING INVOLVING MAKING UP WITH THE PALADIN AND GENERAL FORGIVENESS ON HER FAILURES.

WAY I SEE YOU'RE CHARACTER IS BROKEN ALL THE WAY TO ROCK BOTTOM RIGHT? WELL BUILD HIM ALL THE WAY TO THE TOP!

YOU MAY HAVE BEEN TEMPORARILY BROKEN BUT WITHIN IN THAT MUDDLED MESS LIES SOMETHING.. IT SMOLDERS WITHIN! THIS LIGHT, THIS BURNING PASSION.

RAISE FROM THE ASHES LIKE A PHOENIX REFORGE YOURSELF INTO GREATER GLORY!

YOUR MISSION WHILE NOT SIMPLE IS CLEAR EMBODY EVERYTHING SHE HATES AND HOLDS DEAR! SURPASS THOSE QUALITIES IN WHICH SHE RESPECTS WHILE NOT BOWING TO HER MISTAKEN VIEWS OF HOW YOU SHOULD ACT. BE GENTLEMANLY YET BRASH! BE OPINIONATED WHILE RESERVED! COLD WHILE BURNING WHITE HOT!

>>13259016
What was the rest of the party doing during the months of time that passed while you and the pally RPing.

>>13259015
>For fucks sake guys, finding God in order to gain the mental stre
nobody talked about finding god, you are retarded

>>13259020

It's gonna feel like an eternity, at least. Okay, maybe I should've been more clear with that part. Still, burning all the time and stuff.

>>13259016
I have wondered greatly how religion works in this setting, considering it seems to be even more of a clusterfuck than most settings.

>>13259016
What have the Bard and the Rogue been up to this whole time? I hope they're still gonna get it for being douchebags.

>>13259016
Does the setting allow this?

>>13258513
>>13258600
>>13258675
>>13258687
>>13258767
>>13258928
You know the whole POSESSION OF A FORCE OF GOOD ON YOUR OWN VOLITION. And not the "lol demons hurr" thing.

>>13258157
I'm personally with the "go evil" guys, but I think that the "kill, maim, rape everything" angle doesn't work. That won't get back at anyone; it will make you cease to be the wronged party, and thus you will be a totally justifiable target.

No, I'm thinking you become a manipulator and, more importantly, that you direct your rage against the Order, not your wife, from a seeming standpoint of broken subservience.

When an Order priestess goes missing? You. When mercenaries corner and violate an Order crusader, miles away? Your set-up. When an Order demagogue collapses at the stand, found later to have been poisoned? All you.

Of course, it couldn't have been you. You're mewling and impotent. You don't have that kind of hate inside...do you?

>>13259016
I'm just impressed by all the thought that's been put into this. I hope your character gets well soon, but please, don't give up on him. I'm interested to see how Martin and his wife get through this bump in the road. If she really has changed her ways, it's worth getting better as a way to congratulate her new values.

>>13259016
I'm more interested in you reading my posts about a posession of a force of good to help your mind stabilize instead of being lured by demons. A lot of people seem to agree that this would be a great idea.

Oh snap, thread's heading to the purge. We need a new one if OP still wants to stay up and answer questions.

Also, OP, keep us informed of further developments. Just make sure you have your entire story ready before you start posting.

>>13259016
What are you doing when you are not dealing with all of this character drama? As immersive as it is, I doubt the main plot of the campaign was get "one dude married and then have him deal with wife problems".

On the finding god front, what do you think of the cleric path idea, and are there any conveniently available faiths for that?

>>13259086
Yes OP, since the thread is running out please tell us what you plan on doing.

Hmm....quiet, subservient males, quietly training to kill with blade and poison. A whole slew of em. Money and time, and power. A sprawling network of hate-filled assassins with one goal: Eradication of the Order.

And you, OP, as a the quiet hand that commands the board.

>>13259051

Trolling fags and making money respectively. Probably not, as theirs is a passive aggression. Kind of sucks, but meh.

>>13259050

Doesn't really factor much into play, it's just a motivating/driving force in the setting and for people.

Quite similar to real life really, it's what people believe in and can motivate them.

>>13259035

It was never months really, except until the recent bout of downtime.

So my guy made his big return, and ended the quest. Que downtime when the wife dragged me home, and got the inquisitors to order her to rape my guy. Back to adventuring right after.

Then they finish another quest, she gets home, gets to seeing what he's become, tries loving and sexing him back to normal. About this time they start adventuring but she stays behind, and around the time she goes to remain in her room they need her and send the squire.

>>13259008
>thrones

SOMEBODY CALL FOR AN EXTERNIMATOR?

>>13259135
If there are demons then there are also celestials.

>>13259135
>I see
(Guy who asked about religion)
That leads me to wonder about the workings of divine magic, as well as the influence of outsiders, demons, devils, angels, devas, etc in the world.

I'm gonna go with some of the folks here and say the fastest track to getting stable and recovered is to find religion. Offer the paladin an alternative when she gets back.

YOUR CHARACTER HAS A LATENT YEARNING OF DAYS BEFORE BEING IMPRISONED DOES HE NOT?

WELL HERE IS MY PLAN IF WERE IN YOUR POSITION. HAVE HIM MEEKLY BEGIN TO TOUCH HIS WEAPONRY BUT NOT IN A WAY THAT AROUSE SUSPICIONS. FEIGN GREATER HEALTH THAN YOU HAVE REQUEST WALKS THAT GO GRADUALLY FARTHER AND FARTHER OUTSIDE.

THEN RUN AWAY AND SET UP AN ENCOUNTER FOR A MENTOR TYPE CHARACTER. HAVE HIM HELP YOUR CHARACTER ON A TYPE OF SOUL QUEST AND TRAIN YOU!

YES BRO, I KNOW THERE'S ISSUE OF BEING CAUGHT AND WHATNOT SO DEVISE A WAY SO THAT YOU MAY MAINTAIN CONTACT AND TRAINING.

YES BEGIN TRAINING BE DISGUISED AS SOMETHING ELSE OR BEST CASE SCENARIO OPENLY. AS THIS HAPPENS THE GM MAY DECIDE THAT YOUR FRIENDSHIP BRINGS STABILITY DO SO BUT DO NOT LET ON TO THE WIFE ON SHE MUST HAVE THE IMPLICATIONS OF HER ACTIONS BE SET DEEPLY.. PLANT THE SEEDS OF DOUBT WITHIN HER!

NEXT CONSPIRE WITH YOUR GM TO SET A WAY UP THAT WILL ALLOW YOU TO GO MISSING WITHOUT A CHANCE OF BEING RE-CAPTURED.

AS YOU ARE MISSING BEGIN CHARACTER GROWTH AND PHYSICAL GROWTH TO PARALLEL THE GROWTH OF DOUBT AND THE FEELINGS THAT SHE DUN GOOFED. SLOWLY BECOME HER SHADOW. BOTH IN TERMS OF SECRETLY TAILING HER AND THE GROUP AND BEING HER DARK SIDE!

EVENTUALLY COME TO HER AIDE BUT ALWAYS ESCAPE NEVER BE THERE BUT FOR AN INSTANT. BE AS A MIRAGE AND LET HER LONG FOR YOU AND LET HER REALIZE WHAT SHE DID WAS WRONG AND THAT YOU WILL POSSIBLY NEVER FORGIVE HER.

AND WELL I'M OUT OF STEAM RIGHT BUT I'LL BE BACK WITH SOME MORE.

>>13259222

For light cannot exist without darkness!

>>13259100

The happenings between Martin and Elizabeth are separate games from the main campaign/game. In the main campaign game I play like the worst and most hated character ever, to get the other players to want my old guy back. Not intentionally do I play it like that, the character has just ended up being like that.

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As for the whole angel possession thing, I'm not really interested in doing, partly because it turns religion/cosmic powers into something they haven't been in the game, it would be strange to do so, but also partly because I've never really played a character like that, so don't think it would turn out well.

Also some other reason but I forgot.

>>13259248
That actually explains a lot as to your resistance to such an answer. No offense but it would've probably helped if you mentioned those beings don't work that way sooner.

Actually I have a question. How did she rape your character? You'd just been beaten and tortured and fucking branded. Then your wife comes in and knocks you down and etc... but how did she manage to get Martin's dick up?

>>13259222

So....you want him to become Tuxedo Mask?

>>13259248
Yeah that's ok. No need to push you into things the setting (and you) aren't liable to feel comfortable with. If you got something like that to say just say it.

Just promise me you won't go "lol evil with demons rofl" more than you would go "lol good with celestials rofl". Because if there ARE demons in the world then there are most certainly also divine beings to help.

And even if you haven't roleplayed something before, the only way to find out how good you are at it would be to try.

I just really really REALLY dislike the idea of turning evil just because you have the chance now. This is the time to go full on good and try to make sure that evil people like the ones that broke you never stay in a place of power in the world any longer.

And going evil would prove the paladin order right in their ways. Do you want them to be right? No of course you don't.

>>13259365

Guy who suggested becoming the manipulator here.

This is why I think he should still love his wife, but go after the Order like the French goddamn resistance. She needs to understand that, though he's not going to pointlessly antagonize her, he has been wronged in every spiritual, emotional, and physical sense, and he is not going to stop fighting until the system that breeds complacency with such injustice feels exactly what he felt, with interest.

Sure, going HURR DURR AHM EVIL NOW isn't the right way to handle it, but nor is becoming a virtuous moral center of forgiveness and peace. That just reeks of MORE complacency.

>>13259303
It is a mystery. Probably best to leave it like that. If Martin can remember how she did it, I'm pretty sure he doesn't want to.

>In the main campaign game I play like the worst and most hated character ever
That is just not possible. What little you have told me about the bard has already reduced me to frothing rage with regards to his character. I'm not sure what would happen if you actaully told me about him in depth, but I'm sure it has to be worse than the other guy you are playing now.

>>13259428
I agree. There's a difference between vengeance and lol kill everything and rape the bodies. But he has to get better mentally before that happens.

>>13259303
Unfortunately, despite what you may think, the body can respond even when you don't want it to, and even when you would think it would have no reason to.
That's why a lot of rape fantasies involve the guy pointing out the girl is clearly enjoying it, because despite her mental state, there's only so much the body can take before it gives into its biological functions.
This is also part of why rape is so brutal to the psyche, as it shows you really have no control over what others do to you and even over your own bodily functions.

>>13259456

If he does get better, though, he can't reveal it too early. When and if he starts doing some real damage to the Order, he needs to have the deniability of being effectively comatose. Only once he's started to gain the upper hand can he drop the ruse and take responsibility.

>>13259328
HAHAHA NO. I'M SUGGESTING FOR SOMETHING A TAD BIT MORE RUTHLESS AND AMBIGUOUS IN TERMS OF THREAT/NONE THREAT. DEFINITELY GO WITH ALT PERSONALITY AND ROLL WITH IT
>>13259246
YOU'RE GETTING ON THE RIGHT TRACK.
TO BE HONEST I LIKE THE WHOLE TAKE DOWN THE ORDER IN THE NAME OF GOODNESS ANGLE.

THE MAN SHE KNEW IS LONGER THERE FOR SHE HAS SLEW HIM. AS A FIGHTER RAISED IN STRICT MANNER IN ACCORDANCE TO HER BELIEFS TALKING TO HER WON'T BE TERRIBLY EFFECTIVE. INSTEAD SHOW HER YOUR SOUL WITH YOUR FISTS! I DO NOT NECESSARILY MEAN FIGHTING HER HEAD AS I DOUBT THE GM WILL ALLOW YOU TO RAISE YOUR STATS HIGH ENOUGH NOT TO GET OBLITERATED, BUT BY ALL MEANS SHOW HER WRONG! SHATTER EVERY LAST ONE OF HER PRECONCEIVED MOTIONS IN THE SAME WAY HER OVERBEARING ACTIONS DID TO YOU

>>13259428
>but nor is becoming a virtuous moral center of forgiveness and peace.
Lawful good is not "lawful nice". Nuff said really.

Refer to >>13258928 for my prime example of what should happen.
Spoiler: Its him and the paladin hitting the order at full murderous force after going through the healing process that is to come. Telling them to surrender so they can die quickly instead of slowly by his hands.

>>13259475
True, but he was in severe pain at the time and was barely coherent. I'm sorry unless she used some sort of drug he wouldn't have been able to get a boner. She fucking broke his back.

I may write more about this later, because I was thinking about the paths Martin could take now...and I realized Gabranth isn't the only path that works.

The only good end is for her to die taking on The Order. Of course that's out of your hands.

>>13259499
Good point, so let's chalk it up as a mystery that no one wants to bring up.

>>13259537
Yeah, you're right. It was probably never brought up while they were RPing. Would ruing the drama.

>>13259533
NO BROS! WRONG APPROACH

INSTEAD I HUMBLY SUGGEST THAT UNITE ONCE MORE AND TAKE ORDER DOWN THE ORDER TOGETHER!

>>13259583
I can appreciate you pushing the whole PERFECT END option and everything, but dude, you're just destroying the seriousness, as well as looking like you don't quite comprehend the gravity of the situation the OP's character is involved in.
No offense meant in any of that, but please if you want to keep contributing, do it outside of this zainy character you've invented for posting and do it as a person.

The religion idea brings an interesting situation. This all started due to her devotion to her faith The Order. Perhaps he finds his own religion not just for his own sake but to UNDERSTAND her. Perhaps by diving into some form of faith he would be able to discover what motivated her to do what she did. Whether that ends up as good or bad thing depends on who he worships which is up to you. At best it could lead to him fully forgiving her and moving on with his life. At worst it could lead to the worship of a dark God that is fueled by his sorrow ultimately leading to him sacrificing his humanity for power but at the same time realizing that no matter how much he hated her he still loved her, and she loved him in her own way.

Reading this just reinforces my long standing tradition of never having a plan more complicated than "I am going to kill all those motherfuckers".

I refuse to be responsible for killing this thread. My conscience can't take it.

This thread.

>>13259583
I... I really don't think that just washing away all of his trauma with manly spiral power is something that's really feasible here. It's way outside of the mood, and it's bottom-tier RPing besides. I think it's even worse than replacing his character with an angelic power source that strong-arms solutions to all of his problems.

Anywho, whatever solution you come to OP, I look forward to hearing about how it continues to manage to destroy your life.

>>13259828

I will be the murderer then. More writefaggotry in the future. Waspinator has plaaanz.

Then more lamia luchadore, because this shit is depressing, man.

>>13259828
Sadly, this thread is now a sinking ship. That's what 364 posts will do.

>>13259859
At least its managed some kind of turn around. I don't think there's any possible way that the next thread could have things happen in it that are any worse than what happened this time. Reading the early parts of the thread made me feel so physically ill I had to take a break from the internet for an hour and go curl up with a blanket until the nauseous depression fairy went away.

>>13259632
EXCUSE ME BRO BUT ALLOW ME TO DIFFER THE FIRST THREADS INVOLVING THE PALADIN CHARACTER HAD HER NATURE AS ODD YET INNOCUOUS AND YET IT LEAD TO THIS! ARE YOU SAYING THAT INVERSE CANNOT BE REACHABLE? THAT OUT OF THIS MELODRAMATIC SERIOUSNESS ONE CANNOT GO UPWARD INTO NOBLEBRIGHTNESS FILLED WITH AWESOME?
THERE WILL BE MELODRAMA EITHER WAY MIGHT AS WELL PUT ON A SMILE DO IT WITH PANACHE.

THEREFORE I SCOFF AT YOU

>>13259303

I figure just patience, and persistence. She's not short on endurance, so it's up to her really how long they take together. As in, does she have the patience and/or persistence to sit there and hump away until the necessary moment? A situation like this, I imagine she would, even if it took hours. It's fantasy after all.

As for how she actually did it, there was never really opposition to her. First time was alone in a basement after torture, second time was alone in a bedroom after dinner and attempt making out, third time well, if the descriptions are to be believed, she more or less just picked him up and kept him suspended pressed against her as necessary, as he didn't receive any injury from the third time.


All in all rather unsavory business reliant on how much time one was willing to spend, which appeared to be limitless.

>/end creepy rape analysis

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Also is anyone making a new thread or is this it?

>>13259957
moat

>>13259957

I'm thinking make a new thread once new things happen; the discussion on this is pretty much done.

>>13259957
>Also is anyone making a new thread or is this it?
I'd love to see a new thread. Unfortunately, I have to crash in a minute here, so I won't really be participating, but I'd love to read more when I get up tomorrow. I'm not sure how many people are still here as the thread falls to page 8 or 9, but I'd hope that folks would jump on a new thread if you were to make one. I, for one, support it.

>>13259957
Yeah, keep it to one thread OP, the general consensus of /tg/ seems to be go with the flow and try and get your characters sanity back. Just let us know what you're planning on doing before the thread goes kaput.

>>13259957
I would make a new thread, but I'm about to sleep.
In other matters, a song popped on my playlist, some of the lyrics for some reason made me think of your situation.

Don't you ever wonder why, nothing ever seems to change
If it does it's for the worse, seems it's just a modern curse
Sometimes when I take a peek outside of my little cage,
Everyone looks so asleep, will they die before they wake
And, hey. . . Don't you know? We're just products of our time and Hey . . .
What d'ya say? Show me yours, I'll show you mine
Better dumb and happy than smart and without any friends
Better cute and better loud, better join up with the crowd
Keep up or be left behind, there's a dust storm in my mind
Seems I can't see straight these days, doesn't matter anyway

>>13260121
Hey . . . Don't you know? We're just products of our times and
Hey, what d'ya say? Show me yours, I'll show you mine
Hey, what d'ya say? Hey, what d'ya say? Please don't ever -
Oh God, here's that question now. The one that makes me go insane
I'd gladly tear my heart out if you never, never, never, never change
Do you want to change? Do you want to change right now?
Do you want to change . . . I like my stupid life, just the way it is
And I wouldn't even change it for a thousand flying pigs
And I like you just the way you are, I like your face just the way it is
And I wouldn't even change it for a herd of screaming kids
And I like you just the way you are, I like you though you may not like me back
I would dazzle you with brilliance, if I only had the knack
'Cause I like you just the way you are, I like this life just the way it is
And the castles all around me, have been melting now for years
And it kills my brain to think of all the time I wasted here
All the efforts, sweat, and broken hearts, the screaming and the tears
And I'm dreaming again . . . Floating in a pool of mud
Try to get back where I was and I don't really care
Got a little talking to, by the mirror in my room, and I don't really care . . .
Whispering voices from the dead, come from underneath my bed
And I don't really care . . .
I like my stupid life just the way it is
And the chaos that surrounds me like a flock of screaming pigs
And it hurts my brain to think of all the stupid things I've said
And if I could change the future I would change the past instead
And I'm dreaming again . . . and I'm dreaming again . . .

>>13260137

Baby - sometimes I worry about you
Sometimes you're so far away, tell me what to do
I say, Baby . . . sometimes I worry about you
Sometimes I just can't believe everything you do
I say, Baby . . . sometimes I worry about you
Every day I feel the same, don't you feel it too
I say, Baby . . . sometimes I worry about me
Seems I'm falling down a lot, in between the scenes
I say, Baby . . . sometimes I worry about me
Getting harder all the time, harder now to see
I say, Baby . . . sometimes I worry about me
Light another cigarette, have another dream
It's the same thing every day, nothing ever seems to change and I . . .
Do you really want to change?
Testaments and growing pains. Tranquilizers for the soul.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained - evolution's cruelest joke
Why is everyone upset? I once knew but I forget. Something happened,
Something strange, something it appears has changed
Hey . . . Don't you know? We're just products of our times
And hey, what d'ya say? Show me yours, I'll show you mine
Hey, what d'ya say? Hey, what d'ya say? Please don't ever -
Oh God, here's that question now, the one that makes me go insane
I'd gladly tear my heart out if you never, never, never, never change

While clearly not all match, some of it seems like it syncs quite perfectly.

>>13260148
Note: upon reviewing these lyrics I see they're actually a different version than the one I have on my playlist and as such don't flow nearly as well.
Uploading the mp3 for those who wish to give it a listen.

>>13260189
http://www.mediafire.com/?n87j2npb22hr3to
Oingo Boingo's Change (Live), AKA: Martin's life.

>>13260110

No exact idea really, given that I don't know what the wife went off to do.

But assumedly, my guy will start trying to get better, eat more rest more, take more effective healing for his back, etc... so that at least physically he's at the same place he was before being forced into staying home.

After that is just mental recovery, which will happen overtime but not enough. To be more effective, I aim to have the wife take me with her next time, adventuring with the party. Even if my guy can't do any fighting or just watches (worst case, paladin just keeps him in a backpack), simply witnessing events and the main campaign again will invariably cause him to gain sanity again, even more if the wife is actually kind to him again.

Once a decent level of mental fortitude is reached, then my guy can start leveling like normal again. This way, all the healing desired is achieved without use of artifacts or celestial beings, or dark pacts or whatever, and allows for continued play in the main campaign as well as continued characterization and development between the wife, and other characters. The question is how to play that characterization, specifically with the wife. Things like her trying for sex again are obvious to respond to, but other things might prove difficult or interesting.


I would imagine by then, that if we haven't already rejected or taken to fighting the Order, that we would be in a good position to start doing so, or step it up.

I'll probably start a dedicated writefaggotry thread once I've written out the new story I've got in mind. I'll pad it out with La Serpiente as well.

>>13260270

Also before anyone asks, even if she gets all rapey again, or just coerces my non-responsive guy, there's no chance of her getting pregnant. Since the torture/rape, she's been taking potions or drugs or whatever to prevent it, without the knowledge of the Order.

To quote her, she's simply not ready for children, or to give up this life yet (ignoring or unaware of the fact that she could very easily saddle my guy with the kids and she could keep on adventuring).

So theoretically they could be sleeping together like rabbits, if for no other reason than combat bonuses, but as made abundantly clear already, even sex for procreation will likely never be something to arise between the two. If so then being a long and complicated process, marked with failure.

>>13260270
Once your character regains some sanity what are you planning on doing with the brand on his left pec? (How big is it btw? Like just his pec or the whole left side of his chest?)

>>13260363

Realistically it'd make sense to remove it, but I figure it might be more dramatic if it's just left there, rather than like skinning himself to remove it. Maybe see if the paladin ever is driven to remove it herself out of madness. Plus, at least initially, it acts as a nice guilt-tripper as well as deterrent if she tries to get frisky.

Size-wise about the size of an outstretched hand.

>>13260410
Yeah that's some good RP fodder. Judging by the chick playing the pally it'll make for an interesting story.
Well, it's midnight and I need to go to bed. Thanks for the update OP, can't wait for the next one.

>>13260450

No prob. People want to wait till something happens in the game before the next thread, don't know how long that will be, but I'll be sure to update.