>>12837309Has it already?


yes

The average Space Marine (in fluff) would wipe the floor with Samus.

A bazillion Space Marines (in the actual game) would be no match for Samus.

Samus is one of the two lost Primarchs.

U mad?

The techpriests would try and reverse engineer the marumari and beta test it and deplete an entire stockhouse of servitors as it rends them into unrecognisable shapes.

>>12837325
>The average Space Marine (in fluff) would wipe the floor with Samus.
I would rage. I would type up a diatribe weighty enough to fill a dozen post-limits. I would spend the rest of my life hunting you down to enact violent, bloody revenge for this statement.

But Other M is canon, which means you're absolutely correct, so I cannot. Goddammit.

>>12837325
>A bazillion Space Marines (in the actual game) would be no match for Samus.

>implying Spehs Mehrens aren't much more intelligent, powerful and threatening than the space pirates and GIANT ALIEN CRABS Samus is used to fighting

Barring the bosses of course.

The Imperium needs to engineer a perfect Spess Mehreen killing machine.

Oh wait, they already did. It's called Codex: Imperial Guard.

>>12837350

>>12837351
>But Other M is canon, which means you're absolutely correct, so I cannot. Goddammit.

What's wrong with Other M

>>12837350
Of course they would... You have to be a girl to have the kind of flexibility to use the morph ball.

>>12837390
I know you're trolling, but Jesus man there's limits.

>>12837403
Or maybe he just hasn't played it. It's not like it's that hard to lose touch with the vidya

>>12837390
>Other M
PSSSSSHHHHHHHH-!

PIC FUCKING RELATED ARGLEBLARGLE

>>12837390
Well to start, there's the fact that it portrayed Samus as a bone-headed, codependent and utterly submissive fuckwit; even though every other game both before and after Other M in the timeline protrayed her as sharp, independent and capable.

I really wish Nintendo would flesh out the Metroid setting beyond "the setting that Samus Aran© happens to be the main character of." I'd love to run a game of some sort in the Galactic Federation.

Also, the Super Metroid theme is now playing in your head.

samus would own those cowards and their METAL BAWKES

>>12837432
I can't really remember it.

Youtube me the finest rendition.

>>12837432
Fuck the 3D games. Old Metroid is best Metroid.

>>12837432
>implying it's STOPPED at any point in the past sixteen years.

>>12837427
Oddly Other M did so badly, Nintendo has put together to figure out why

REMEMBER ME

>musical Pritin

>>12837431
Samus is a merc, though. She can't just rush headlong into a military campaign and do her own thing. She had to be submissive to her supperior officer on the grounds she was getting paid to do so and using loaned tech that could be turned off at any time.

>>12837325
>The average Space Marine (in fluff) would wipe the floor with Samus.
Haha, no.

>>12837453
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATw5tPH-mG4

or, alternatively, the title theme, which many people remember better:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPT8GBdRCWE

Come on, guys. Other M wasn't THAT bad. Pretty bad, yeah, but not as bad as you make it out to be. Robotvoice Aran certainly bugged me, and the Ridley cutscene seemed contrived, but everything else seemed decent enough.

>>12837488
You underestimate how broken the average fluff Marine is.

>can spit hydrochloric acid
>can gain memories by eating someone's brain
>wounds regenerate in seconds

>>12837528
>wounds regenerate in seconds

I thought they just heavily clot in seconds.

>>12837484
>implying that as a mercenary, you always have to be submissive.

Pic related.

>>12837484
Okay I know shine all about Metroid, but isn't Samus meant to be this lone wolf bounty hunter as in she kills dudes and turns in their heads for cash? Why would she be taking orders from this officer guy?

And hasn't she saved the universe 3 or 4 times now? They should just stay the fuck out of her way.

>>12837519

>>12837504
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPT8GBdRCWE

DAT MELODY-THAT-HAUNTED-MY-CHILDHOOD

You are now imagining a squad of Spartan IIs, a squad of Spess Mehreens, Samus, and a star of Clan Elementals being turned loose aboard the Enterprise while Goku is using it as a bludgenoing weapon against Superman, who is himself armed with a Star Destroyer, all of which is going on on the back of an Imperator Titan which is engaged with the protagonists' mobile suits from every iteration of Gundam.

Let the nerd fight to end all nerd fights begin.

>>12837528
Yeah, like any of those is useful when you're getting blasted to shit by a super-missile.

I mean really, are you trying to make it just how apparently one-sided this match-up is?

Space Marines are exceptional SOLDIERS. Useful in certain circumstances, certainly leaps and bounds better than your average highly-trained special forces jarhead.

But you know what?

Ultimately, they're just Mooks In Power Armor.

>>12837550
Well, everyone knows who would win that fight.

MERCENARY FIGHT!

MERCENARY FIGHT!

>>12837550
The fight ends when Mr Rogers gets every to calm down

>>12837550
*yawn*

It's already been looted by the Orks.

>>12837571
Aw yeah. Ravens were here. Lynxes are faggots.

>>12837504
I find the latter frustratingly tiresome, as it never dips into the next verse, which I am always waiting for, and is the good part of the song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZnEzNDktdE&t=28

ITT: faggots who don't realize that the baby metroid getting killed deeply scarred Samus's psyche. She even reflects on it in the opening of Other M. Sure, she's lonegunned every fucking mission to that point and killing aliens wasn't that big a deal. But the baby, a FOUL XENO, gave it's life to save her. Which is why she felt compelled to save the etecoons and Drachorus, who in turn repaid the dept and saved her.

tl;dr: Samus loves xenos.

>>12837563
samus is just a fucking horrendous threat to take on. fully upgraded she could probably take a full bolter burst without harm, she can macross missile massacre, has bloody intense anti-personel beam weapons, and if everything else fails, can kill everyone by shinesparking. samus RAPES.

>>12837528

>Can spit acid

Too bad it doesn't go farther then like 2 meters, 5 tops. Plus acid is pitiful tier compared to what Samus has to fight on a daily basis.

>Can gain memories by eating

To be honest this seems a really off the wall thing for the Emperor to give to a warrior designed to be the ultimate killing machine. Seems like it would go a lot better with some kind of genetically engineered hard boiled super detective. I guess it has some limited utility while tracking shit or something.

>Can regenerate wounds instantly.

They aren't fucking necrons you retard. They can CLOT near instantly, but if Spacemarine Billy Bob's Space Full Plate gets pierced by Space bullets, hes still gonna be walking around with the wounds, just they wont be bleeding out into his suit. Internal Bleeding is another matter though, since the Larraman cells clot on exposure to oxygen.

On the other hand, Samus has the fucking swiss army knife of personal armor. That thing has like 5-6 different guns, all of which are chargeable, a portable missile launcher, a flamer, and a bomb dispenser in morph ball mode.

>>12837431
the thing is other M is based just after super metroid. And the end of super is when she left the army to go on her own so she still would listen to her old commander.

>>12837633
When did Samus get a flamer? Samus doesn't have a flamer.

>>12837528

>Plasma weapons are some of the most powerful, most volatile weapons in 40k

>Samus has a perfectly stable plasma cannon with infinite ammo that she has no qualms about using

And Samus would lose. Riiiiiight.

If we want to be fair about it, Metroid was ruined as soon as they took her out of the powered suit. No, i don't mean by putting it in 3-d or sex appeal or whatever, but by fleshing out the rest of the universe in the wrong damn way.
Samus quickly stopped being unique when nameless soldiers, other mercs, and countless other races all had access to the same, or better technology than her Chozo suit, a relic of the most advanced lost society ever.

Samus went from the sole hope, to someone constantly inferior surviving by underdogging her way across the galaxy.

>>12837663

In one of the Prime games she gets a flamethrower equivalent, I think. Ate missiles like a crackbaby.

>Hompous act

>>12837670
Oh wow, I completely reject that canon. Wow. That is terrible. That's bad.

>>12837663
In metroid prime you could use a flamethrower when you charged up the plasma beam or something. I might be wrong though.

samus vs space marines would be close, the spess mahreens have uncanny marksmanship and devestating firepower. I mean a good dead center volley from a heavy bolter would tear her apart. then again, by then she could have missiled and plasma'd them all to death.

>>12837563

>Ultimately, they're just Mooks In Power Armor.

This.

A space marine is a fine warrior. But he can still be killed by a inbred mutant warrior with a laser pointer or a rusty pitchfork.

Samus is a goddamn genocide machine. The Imperium should just throw away its current arsenal of Exterminatus tier weapons, and just start firing a drop pod containing like 10 clones of her at the planet you want destroyed.

>>12837674
>My face when I bought the Trilogy for Wii and never even opened it, and am therefore ignorant of this fact

>>12837644
>And the end of super is when she left the army to go on her own so she still would listen to her old commander.

She might of listen, but following order blindly to point of "Don't use the fireproof suit in the fire level" is fucking stupid

>>12837663
In Metroid Prime, If you charge the plasma beam and then shoot a missile your gun instead starts spewing fire like a Red Elder Wyrm.

>>12837670
>underdogging

no she pretty much rapes everything. to be fair she cant manipulate ice or shapeshift but she has agility and good old fashioned dakka.

>>12837664
The plasma weapons in 40k have been said to house the power of the center of a large sun.

While I don't think samus's weapon is that powerful, it should still be more than enough to deal with space marines.
Not to mention the serious speed Samus has over a space marine. Space marines are fast but the Chozo genes make Samus about as fast as an eldar Aspect Warrior.

>>12837698
Get off 4chan and go play it. It's really fun.

>>12837703
that's true. ninja did fuck up that part majorly

regular samus=excellent bounty hunter but not heavily armed

fully upgraded samus= living incarnation of death

depends on which samus we are talking about.

Just a thought - isn't the Imperial Navy already real good at killing Xenos?

What does the IoM do with Xeno populations anyway? Do they even bother to invade if there's no one already there ( ie humans ) whut are in need of oppressing?

>>12837711
I don't play 40k, but I have seen pictures of Tzeentch, and I have seen pictures of Chozo, and I think we can work something out here.

Samus's suit can be dataa hacked, effectively shutting off life support. Also a heavy impact such as explosion concussion can cause it to reboot and delete all of its available tools.

>>12837698
>Has Metroid Prime Trilogy
>Hasn't even fucking opened it

Where the fuck have you been in the last ten goddamn years. Play it, RIGHT NOW.

>>12837742

You know as well as me that those are very flimsy excuses that were used to justify Samus' suit losing all of its shit. Again.

>>12837742

As if ANYONE in the Imperium of Man knows how to hack "ChozoOS 20.7". Or how to hack.

>>12837742
The technicians of the Imperium barely know their own equipment, it'll be a miracle if they can hack the technology of an alien they've never seen before.

even if life support shuts off, all the planets of significance in 40k have already been terraformed. Any human and most aliens can walk onto nearly any planet and take off their helmet without any problems.

>>12837742
Yeah, but the canonical scenarios required to initiate a reboot are generally something along the lines of, "oh god I'm falling out of space," or, "Outer Things in my brain aslkdjfk."

Unless somebody brings a titan or the Obliterator Virus, I think she'll be good. Hell, if it's a small titan she might well kill it for a power up.

>>12837777
QUADRUPES DON'T LIE

>>12837731
Samus is an agent of planetcide. A metal-encased harbinger of annihilation.

The IoM might be able to do what she does, but they do so at the cost of human life and precious resources.

>>12837777
So only canon that supports your viewpoint counts now?

>>12837633
Yeah, I think most things she fights have caustic acid for spit.

And the bit about eating brains... how the hell would that be useful? So they eat space pirate brain, and find out the ass-clenching fear they have for some woman in orange armor.

Real useful. And that "regenerate wounds" thing IS bullshit. They're not Wolverine. What they CAN do is survive with some grievous wounds.

>>12837802
>Hell, if it's a small titan she might well kill it for a power up.

If it's bigger than Samus, it's FUCKED.
That's what you learn from bossfights.

>>12837814
Space marines are known to have regeneration, not as extreme as Wolverines, but enough to make them physically immortal to age.

>>12837833Space marines are known to have regeneration, not as extreme as Wolverines, but enough to make them physically immortal to anal virginity loss

>>12837810

Ok then, multiple Space Marines can be soloed by a single Imperial Guardsman then. Or poisoned to death. It happened in 40k so its totally canon.

I'd accept that Samus could take on a space marine or two, but titans seem a bit out of the question. as a titan has tank armor and guns that do large AOE attacks. If Samus could somehow get on or into the titan, then I'd say she has a chance, but I could only imagine the hell one would have to go through to get there.

>>12837742
>delete
>delete missiles
>missile deleted

HOW DOES THAT EVEN WORK GAME

EXPLAIN TO ME HOW YOU DELETED THOSE MISSILES. I WANT TO KNOW.

Samus has that running invincible smash attack, zero-g jump out of fucking nowhere, and infinite icey pew-pew

Oh, and fucking Spin attack, mines, ball-mode, resistance TO mines in ball mode, and a ship that looks like her head

>>12837857I'd accept that Samus could take on a space marine or two, but titans seem a bit out of the question. as a titan has tank armor and guns that do large AOE attacks. If Samus could somehow get on or into the titan, then I'd say she has a chance, but I could only imagine the hell one would have to go through to get there.

VOLCANO CANNO TEMPORARILY DISABLED

GRAPPLE BEAM

ROLL

THE CREW IS FUCKED.(BTW THERE WAS A POWER UP IN THE THING ALL ALONG SAMUS CAN NOW SHOOT VOLCANOS)

>>12837814
>So they eat space pirate brain, and find out that tubes are wonderful

FTFY

>>12837833

No they don't regenerate, 40kid. They DO clot external bleeding near instantly, but there are instances of them dying from internal bleeding. The redundant heart and lung help a bit when they've been shot in the chest with a bolt pistol, but they aren't krogan tier regenerators, or regenerators period. If they could, why would Calgar be 80% metal? You damn well know ward would claim that he had some "enhanced healing factor" or some bull like that.

>>12837857
>samus
>somehow get on
>SCREWATTACKSCREWATTACKSCREWATTACKSCREWATTACKSCREWATTACKSCREWATTACKSCREWATTACKSCREWATTACKSCREWATT
ACKSCREWATTACKSCREWATTACKSCREWATTACKSCREWATTACKSCREWATTACKSCREWATTACKSCREWATTACKSCREWATTACKSCREWATTA
CKSCREWATTACKSCREWATTACK
>samus is now wherever she needs to be

>>12837857
>the hell one would have to go through to get there
The sort of hell she goes through in the games, maybe?

She does have a speed boost. One assumes she could outrun most missiles.

>>12837883
>So they eat space pirate brain, and find out that tubes are wonderful

They already know tubes are wonderful... Spess Mehreens love the kawk!

>>12837881

>Samus running around with a Volcano cannon mounted on her arm.

..... I think I just came.

Samus already exists in the 40k universe.


What the hell do you think the Tyranids are running from?

>>12837919
>tyranids
>orginally known as: space pirates

IS IT TRUE? YOU BETTER FUCKING BELIEVE IT

>Imperial Navy panicks and attacks Samus.


>Samus received missile upgrade: VORTEX TORPEDOES!

>>12837889
Marines like Calgar and Dante have all the metal because they have unhealable injuries. there are some things even Wolverine can't heal from.

>>12837937
Marines are not equal to Wolverine. Stop implicitly suggesting that is so.

>>12837935
>samus finds dead space marine and/or downs a space marine
>UPGRADE: ADAMANTIUM SUIT

bonus points if it's the ADAMANTIUM PHAZITE COMPOSITE SUIT

>>12837919
Elmyra Duff?

>>12837935
Vortex Torpedos?

FUCK, everything's dead, sorry any other setting, Samus has this. Don't test her.

>>12837953
Elmyra is also Samus.

All icons of feminine power are secretly Samus.

>>12837937
Clearly never read the comics where Wolverine came back from being a skeleton. Just accept that Space Marines can take some serious injuries but not bounce back from everything.

>>12837947
see
>>12837833

>>12837958
>vortex torpedoes
>low on ammo
>fire
>collect ammo from remains of planet

>>12837919
It's a little-known fact that over the course of a long campaign of borderline terrorist actions, Samus destroyed every tube in Space Pirate territory. Stripped of their source of power, the pirates turned to Science Team, who decided that the best way to unfuck their situation would be for everybody to do lines of Phazon off each other's carapaces.

A potentially related little-known fact is that Tyranids are deathly afraid of two foot-wide spheres and the color orange.

>>12837970
Well fuck

A more appropriate match-up would be Samus vs. Mega-Man.

But putting Samus against a glorified stormtrooper is just retarded.

I don't know why 40k fans act like Space Marines are just unkillable. That's simply not true. They might be supersoldiers but they're not all fucking gods of war.

>>12837985
>Doing lines of (Substance) off of (Object)


Dammit Science Team, that's your solution to EVERYTHING.

>>12837999

Indeed. Only one is.

>1861 Oppown

>>12837937

Look kid, Space Marines are not wolverine. They never will be, god and gw willing. There is literally no canon to support your "space marines regenerate" crap, theres years upon years to support me saying they can't. Though maybe the Empra might of wanted to toss that "Gain memories though EATING" organ for something to give Murheens a super healing factor. But he wanted marines to be able to gain gay porno by eating an eldars dick too much.

>>12837999
>Samus vs. MegaMan

Well...fuck...

brb, storyboard...

>>12838020
Space marines are not Wolverine

Though, they have a form of regeneration that allows them to live as long as they do.

Accept it.

>>12837978
Let's be entirely honest. Wolverine coming back from being BURNED DOWN TO THE BONE is super, super lame.

But yes, Space Marines have mild regeneration. Would it save them from a shot to the throat? Unlikely. Certainly not to the head.

>>12837999
WHICH Megaman?

Megaman original formula? I'd say Samus, sliding won't save his ass

Megaman X? I'd have to give it to the blue bomber on this count. He's a quick fighter who can shoot screen destroying attacks (MMX3's upgraded charged shot)

Megaman ZX? Samus again, they're just borrowing power from the originals, ergo I believe them to be weaker.

Megaman.exe? He might hack her systems, but Lan is fucked

Megaman Trigger? Samus again, but only because Roll sold all his shit before the fight

THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE

>>12837985
This would explain their reluctance to fight the Safety Marines and their Medicine Balls of the Emperor's Fitness.

>>12838064
SO IT BEGINS!

>>12838058
Samus has those nuke grenades that kill everything on screen too though.

>>12837999
Kasrkin are supersoldiers. Space Marines literally are Gods of War.

>>12838091

Karskins are well trained special forces. Marines are Shock Troopers. Both still get killed by a retard with a flashlight.

>>12838087
True enough, but Megaman has faced 'large' attacks before, and if there's room to dodge, he'll find it.

She also has a limited supply of nukes where as he just needs three seconds to charge

>>12838091

Funny, if Space Marines were as invincible as the Imperial propaganda says they were then you'd think there wouldn't be any need for the Post-Retirement Life Support Coffin.

>>12838045

Fine then. Link me to a canon source stating they have regeneration. Page number too.

>>12838115
How big is that thing in relation to an average human?

>>12838091
Kasrkin are not supersoldiers. They're special operators. Think the NPCs from the British arcs in CoD Modern Warfare 1 and 2, but with lasers, and you've got more or less the right idea.

>>12838091
No, Karskin are Delta Force/ Navy SEALs and that sort.

Space Marines are those organizations as they appear in 80's action films.

Neither of those really compare to a being that single-handedly destroys planets on weekends.

>>12838124
Big.

Samus can navigate stairs.

>>12838115
everyone knows space marines only choose to die to get interred in those things.

>>12838144
/r squad broken copypasta

>>12838144
Welp, game over.

>>12838144
Chaos is fucked.

The second floors of buildings were their last stronghold.

>>12838124

Lexicanum disappoints me with its lack of a ripped IA datasheet.

I'd guess 3 or so meters high.

>>12837762
Full disclosure, I beat Metroid Prime inside out on the Gamecube. When I bought the Trilogy, I figured I should play through them all in order, and that kind of soured the mood because that's a fucking lot of collecting all the same shit over and over, especially with me having collected it over and over before.

>>12838144
>BROTHER LUCIAN! THE ORANGE WITCH HAS SCALED THE STAIRS AHEAD! WHAT ARE YOUR ORDERS?

>Stand down, brother. There is nothing more we can do. This "Samus" has eluded our grasp once again, it seems.

>>12838196
She starts shooting at them out of the second floor window.

>>12837937
Are you a retard? Wolverine heals from *everything*.

Space marines have increased healing capacity, they do not fucking regenerate, nor do they regenerate in seconds, or there would be no space marines with lost limbs or cybernetic implants and there sure as fuck wouldn't be any dreadnoughts.

Nor do they spit hydrochloric acid (do you know what that would do to the fucking body?). If they *had* hydrochloric acid in them, it would eat through their flesh and fucking *kill* them. They *can* produce an acid but it sure as hell isn't hydrochloric acid.

rolled 51 = 51

>>12838058
>Megaman original formula? I'd say Samus, sliding won't save his ass

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQBU4ZfA_qY

>>12838219
You have an organ that is fucking FILLED with hydrochloric acid ALL THE TIME.

It's called your STOMACH.

>>12838219
>MFW regular humans can spit HCL naturally

>it's called throwing up

>>12838136
Planetary Defense Forces are the armies of worlds. They are comparable to regular 1st world armies today. The Imperial Guard is composed of the top x% of those PDFs. The Guard itself is SOCOM. Stormtroopers are the top x% of this massive SOCOM entity. Kasrkin are considered to be at least Stormtrooper level, if not better.

>>12837999 I don't know why 40k fans act like Space Marines are just unkillable. That's simply not true

40K has a terminal case of fanboyitis. Despite the setting being fairly low powered by Space Opera standards, fans are confident that, if something exists in 40K, it's TOTALLY THE MOST POWERFUL THING EVER.

This is why you get fans seriously arguing that 40K could stand up to the Culture, despite the multiple order of magnitude difference in power levels.

Inb4

<place character here> vs a space marine

>>12838219

*I* can spit hydrochloric acid!!!
I take this! (pic) So I DON'T spit hydrochloric acid!!

Am I a goddamn superhero?!

>>12838221
I feel like I shouldn't have to point this out, but he took nearly all of those attacks and dodged... Heat man's telegraphed charge attack

>>12838252
And the Culture's author having no interest in making war fun or interesting, and so giving his precious culture an automatic "I Win" button and calling it an "Effector."

And if that fails, another one, labeled "Gridfire."

>>12838221

>Finally defeated him.

>>12838262
Kirby would destroy them like the fist of an angry god if they stole his sandwhich

Hell, he destroyed a castle, unleashed ancient evil, defeated ancient evil and generally traversed the land because someone stole a goddamned SLICE of cake (IIRC)
The rest of the cake was right there, he ate plenty of cake on the way, but you just don't fuck with Kirby's food... then again he didn't get his slice of cake back at the end of the game, so who knows

>>12838091
No, Space marines are weapons of terror. They're skilled, they're big, their weaponry is loud and they are intimidating.

You give a guy a rocket pistol that renders people into chunks of bloody flesh with each shot and put him in a place where everyone can see him do it and your enemy is suddenly demoralized... Doesn't matter that he cannot do this for long, he has a giant impractical loud as hell chainsaw sword to hack people to bits with when he runs out of bullets. You give him heavy armor so that almost all enemy attacks are deflected off of him, and most personnel weapons that aren't serve to make him only look like an unstoppable murder machine. You run a giant religious propaganda spiel that makes these guys out as the god-emperors angels of death. You set these guys up so that they can tear apart tanks if they need to and in *very* rare cases deal with foes that no one else can.

These guys are skilled warriors and all, but they're mainly propaganda and terror weapons. The *truly* effective warriors are smaller, quieter and far more deadly... things like vindicare assassins, but vindicare assassins cut off the head, they don't demoralize enemies and simultaneously inspire allies.

Space marines are highly limited in number so you have to be careful *how* they're deployed too, 99/100 times it's far more feasible to just land 20billion guardsmen on a planet and say 'fuck you', or deploy an eversor temple assassin to take someone out in a way that's so messy and obvious that no one dares speak of it.

>>12838243

>PDF is equal to modern day first world army.

Umm no, just no.

Leaving aside for a moment the pitiful performance of 40k weapons to their real world equilivents, a PDF exists for one purpose and one purpose alone. To get its ass kicked by a minor force of orcs and force the Ultramarines or whoever the hell to get off their asses and come save the planet. A PDF has literally NEVER saved a world it defends, baring some mary sue fan fic like Ciphras Cain. Not to mention its pretty much canon they get shitty kit compared to the regular guard. A PDF is a third world milita riding around in a pickup truck with a MG welded to the back.

>>12838341
Don't Orks regularly rout entire guard regiments using only pickups with machine guns welded to the back?

>>12838243Planetary Defense Forces are the armies of worlds. They are comparable to regular 1st world armies today. The Imperial Guard is composed of the top x% of those PDFs. The Guard itself is SOCOM. Stormtroopers are the top x% of this massive SOCOM entity. Kasrkin are considered to be at least Stormtrooper level, if not better.


this

>>12838341
>mary sue fan fic like Ciphras Cain

rolled 5 = 5

>>12838274

It's more the point that he took all those attacks and STILL killed them all.

Not that I'm saying the Blue Bomber would win, but don't count him out.

>>12838285

>u mad?

>>12838341

A PDF on a very tech-heavy world might be almost as good as Guard, bar a bit of training. On other worlds, like anon said, they could be guys riding around in technicals, or even be armed with muskets. 40K's infinite variety of worlds, etc.

They are canon cannon fodder.

>>12838369

>Never loses
>Unnaturally skilled with his chainsword.
>Beloved by all
>Has a banging hot Girlfriend whos also an inquisitor
>his aide is superspeically immune to warp magiks

Yeah sounds like a well balanced character to me!

>>12838341
Compared to the other denizens of 40k a PDF IS equal to a modern first world army. It's just that the Imperial Guard is EVEN BETTER and the IG drops like flies.

rolled 37 = 37

>>12838268
It totally depends on who your spiritual liege is.

>>12838377
>canon cannon fodder

rimshot.txt

>>12838398

No a PDF is equal to those guys in Africa armed with AK47s who can stand out in the middle of the street blazing away from the hip because the other side is doing the exact same thing.

>>12838376
Fair enough
But Samus always can take quite a beating.

Not to mention that she can infinity jump, and I'm pretty sure she can shoot in 8 directions as opposed to left and right only

>>12838398
Pretty much. Just because hyper-evolved space bugs, space elves, space orks, creatures from hell and ancient terminators can rape them doesn't mean that PDFs aren't armies drawn from the populace of a world to defend it.

>>12838393

>Never loses
Comes damn close. Besides, I'm finding it hard to think of a Guard series where they do lose.

>Unnaturally skilled with his chainsword.
Compared to who? Gaunt had more fancy fuckery going on chainsword wise "I'm the only one to thrust with a chainsword ever, aren't I clever!"

>Beloved by all
thatsthejoke.jpg

>Has a banging hot Girlfriend whos also an inquisitor
They're fuck buddies at best, and he sees her every three books or so.

>his aide is superspeically immune to warp magiks
Untouchables being totally unknown in 40K.

I think we just have ourselves a hater here.

>>12838398

>modern first world army

By which we mean World War 2, where tactical evolution ceased as far as the makers of 40K are concerned.

Their flyer rules are some straight out of World War 1 shit.

>>12838454
The 'never loses' complaint can be applied almost every protagonist ever. It's a good sign that you're arguing with a troll, a hater, or a retard.

>>12838393
People need to like him, it's a key plot device.
Yes people can be highly skilled, this is not all that odd for 40.
Jurgen exists to even the odds against equally bullshit warp dickery.

>>12838479
Guard tanks are pretty much WWI in design.

>>12838398
If they give them all this training...why do the generals just have the men charge forward while their own artillery shells the area?

>>12837369
FYI, thread finished way back here

>>12838502
Because when you draw the best soldiers from a million worlds, you still end up with billions of guardsmen. Throw in the clusterfuck that is the Emperium's heirarchy and you get commanders whose only qualifications are their ancestors.

>>12837999
>Samus vs. Mega-Man.


Ends in /ss/

>>12838551
Can you /ss/ with a robot?

>>12838551
"Oh wow, it looks like your arm isn't the only place you're packing a cannon my little blue friend!"

>>12838548
Okay, how about training IG soldiers that in the event of a hull breech, if you are sucked into space, to recite the litany of the vacuum and make a swimming motion towards the ship?
Or to shout the litany of stealth when sneaking up at someone?
Competent Guard regiments are around, but the vast majority of them are shit.

>>12838598

I'm pretty sure Imperial Guardsmen themselves don't take the IIUP at face value. The ones that do, well, they'll get it knocked out of them in the first fight. The number of Guard regiments that can into stealth belies that bit of fluff.

>>12838598
>recite the Litany of Vacuum and make a swimming motion towards the ship

New favorite way to troll Guard players: acquired.

I played Metroid, that Samus bitch's weak ass weapons cannot even punch through, or even dent walls or even fucking doors unless they are special color. No way in fuck anything in that cunt's arsenal can scratch adamantium or ceramite.

>>12838676
But the only walls and doors she could bust through WERE adamantium and ceramite

>>12837970
So that's why the Chozo died off...

>>12838676
In all 40k vidya games, mereens can't go through walls either.

>>12838743

True, but for Metroid it is a feature, for 40k it is a limitation of the game engine. If the engine was buff enough 40k games would let the player blast through everything and anything with enough shooty-shooty. Metroid will still make you get the right coloured thingie to fuck the door open and forget even thinking about blasting a hole in the wall next to the coloured door.

>True, but for Metroid it is a feature, for 40k it is a limitation of the game engine.

Buulllshit. As in 40k, the game does not reflect the fluff, unless you truly, genuinely believe that spess pirates manifest from thin air when you leave the room, and that their only means of travelling from room to room is by shooting doors with missiles they don't have.

>>12838920
Maybe they're just really good at hiding

>>12838878
Colored doors actually make the game easier.

So you blast through the wall next to the door, and then there's an acid pit you can't swing over because you don't have the grappling beam because you broke sequence. What now?

If they didn't have colored doors, nobody would ever finish the goddamn thing.

>>12838920
>talking about colored doors
>ignoring the elephant in the room that is SHINESPARK

Ahhhhhh, here's a /tg/-worthy topic.

Samus, by a long shot.
Rapid fire plasma weapons: check.
Anti-armor, anti-personnel missiles: check.
But most damningly, far superior manuverability.
Samus doesn't have to anchor the fight, and has far more ability to disengage at will then the Space Marines do to force her into melee combat -which is where she's genuinely at risk. Bolter rounds need to penetrate the target to really work, but I think it's fair to give victory in a chainsword brawl to the Mehreens. They're probably strong enough to tear her limb from limb, armor or no, and she's never had especially stellar hand-to-hand abilities.
This makes sense, most of what she hunts is best dispatched at range after all, but for purposes of this match-up it's her Achilles Heel.

>>12841900

Her missiles aren't anti-armour.
Her plasma is weak as well.

She can't even kill local fauna unless they wave a large, glowing weak spot at her.

The only way I can see her taking out a marine is if he disassembles his backpack and lets her take potshots at the generator within.

Space Marines are supposed to fight as Squads at the very least. Samus is some lone wolf bullshit.

>>12841947
What's the stated strength of Space Marine armour?

>>12841988

I don't think it's ever been stated.

It's bound to be stronger than the chitin of the enemies in Metroid.

>>12841988
Same as human power in the head, 2 points more in the torso (and in the pauldrons)

>>12841997
Those enemies who may take several dozen missles to kill?

Zerg chitin is pretty strong too if I recall correctly.

>>12842042
>Those enemies who may take several dozen missles to kill?
That can be interpreted two different ways.

>>12837309
I"m sure any Space Marine could face Xenos scum without breaking down and crying for a man to save them

So she can beat up spesh marheens? Who can't?

Can she survive an EXTERMINATUS when they decide she's too big of a threat to let live, and a planet is an acceptable sacrafice

>>12842618
She's blown up every planet she's ever visited. Yes. She can survive Exterminus.

(heck, she was raised on a planet with 20 times standard earth gravity and a venus style atmosphere that melted steel in seconds. She's not human by any definition)

>>12842104
They send Samus in because direct orbital bombartment by navy warships doesn't kill space pirates or metroids. Just scatters them.

Let's give this thread a slight twist.

How would 40k factions fare against the critters found in the Metroidverse?

Eh, it's not a stretch that she can employ anti-armor projectiles. And in 40K, which it's apparently assumed is the native universe for this brawl, plasma is plasma. Early 40K plasma weaponry had variable discharge settings, Samus could just prefer kid gloves shooting to save her suit's power source for harder targets then the basic crawling spiky thing.
And none of that's as important as her ability to move and command the fight's tempo. Assault marines could be a problem of course, and heavier weapons would be imperiling.
Assault Cannons like the kind Terminators prefer are nothing to get cocky around.

>>12842695
Agaisnt Metroids?
I think it would be similar to an enslaver plague, until they found out they were vunerable to extreme cold.
I don't think there is a single weapon in the Imperium that is the equivalent to the Ice Beam, however.

You're probably assuming this is a fight out in the open. Since when does Samus do that?

She can shrink down to a ball and move through tiny holes and vents, move at super-speed, grapple and air jump and all kinds of crazy movement shit. Even Spess Marinez will fight her on her terms, and when she fights on her terms she wins.

>>12842711
So they'd have to bring in a specialist...

Samus is a scary motherfucker. Did SA-X not teach anyone anything?

>>12842695
Interesting idea....
Good at first, but progressive poorly. Mobility issues would start at nuisance grade, and rapidly escalate to operation failure inducing. Tanks and the like are probably automatically useless.
Also environmental hazards are common as hell on Metroid planets. SM's are 'ard enough to cope with acids and poisonous atmospheres, but lava/magma are still likely to be deadly as hell to them.
I don't think the SM's, or LAWL IG, get by effortlessly, or perhaps not at all.
However: Seraphim. Having small, more maneuverable armor/jump-pack combinations better suited to sustained flight probably fair quite better.
Plus, they take their flight combat training with an emphasis on close-range gunplay. That's going to be very handy.
Really, given their lighter weights and smaller profiles the Sisters are actually well suited to an operation on Zebes or one of the rest. 300lbs of SoB platforming probably fairs far better then a near-ton of SM trying not to fall through the weird crumbling terrain.

Samus can find the weakness in any armor thanks to the scan visor. She also has an Heat visor, echo visor, and some other visor from Prime Echos.

Samus' weaponry in the 2D games can faze through anything, rock, steel, tubes, it does not matter. You may be protected on the outside, but all of your organs will get fried.

Her Grapple beam can latch on to any especially magnetic point and rip it off.

Her dodge ability can make her invincible to any artillery shot at her, and immediately shoot a fully charged beam to her opponent.

When all else fails, she has the Power bomb and shinespark . Which can vaporize anything they touch.

And lets not even talk about Samus if she has the Phazon system with the X-ray visor.

If anything, Samus is TOO overpowered. Against ANYTHING. I would even go as far as to say she's a Mary Sue in terms of abilitys.

If those points were stated, I'm sorry. The thread was kinda TL;DR. My points was also probably the same. I apologize for that too.

>>12842723
Reminds me: IIRC SM's don't get much zero-G combat training or even experience. They tend to operate in near-Terra standard gravity levels.
That could be decisively problematic.

>>12842695
I'm curious about how would the Imperium fight the Ing, what with them being capable of at will instant posession, even of machines.

>>12842765

The Ing have take over the Emperor. Are you a bad enough Marine to save him ?

>>12841900
>Samus
>Weak in melee
>mfw Screw Attack

She may not have "melee" in the sense of being skilled with a chainsword, but she can disintegrate enemies simply by jumping into them.

Closing to melee against fully-powered Samus is a bad idea.

>>12842765
ING TITANS.

ING TITANS EVERYWHERE.

>>12837334

Samus and Samuri Jack are the two lost primarchs

If the Energy Tank system is anything to go by, Samus's suit, by itself, is not all that strong, and instead relies on a coating forcefield that is renewed whenever it recieves any sort of assault.

So if we go by that Samus would be fighting at full capacity and unharmed till you manage to pierce her armour, at which point she goes down from any sort of assault.

Of course, Samus only fights at full power for like, 5 minutes every mission.

...and the idea of Samus sneaking around a Death World slowly gaining 40k weapons and technology is awesomely terrifying.

Great now I have this image of Orks following Samus because "She's the shootiest"

>>12842776
I tend not to count that; it's a late-in-the-game upgrade, and...wonky. The insta-kill attacks are too hard to even speculatively quantify.
When I say melee, I mean like actual _melee_. Not shooting at close range, but actually killing with limbs and/or CC weapons. Like how Samus fairs with a power weapon in her face and an angry marine trying to tear her leg off.
That's SM killing range, I respect that.

>>12842759
Space Marines main job is salvaging Hulks and boarding... It's in the name for fuck sake.

>>12842886
And hey, that's great as long as the battlefield is nice and reasonable.
SM's are man-size tanks. That means bane as well as boon, and while there probably is a zero-G specialized chapter the average Codex Marine is likely in for a world of hurt.
Deal.

>>12842908
All SM's are trained in zero G environs. Their suits are capable of zero-g, some of their implants are specifically to deal with radiation in outer space.
What have you been drinking. I don't care shit about your silly anime character beating SM's, just get your fluff right.

Don't forget that physical damage to the Chozo powersuit merely drains its energy. And if she can recharge her suit in seconds if she can find an adequate power source.

Not to mention the fact that Samus is so fucking fast. Once you get the speed boost in Super Metroid, you can do god-damn kill everything super-jumps.

I only played Metroid Prime, Metroid Prime: Hunters, and Super Metroid, so I don't know a lot about the metroid universe. Maybe this is a good thing, because it allows me to extrapolate from the imagery in the games I have played and make a setting without it being tainted by canon. The end result probably will not even resemble the canon Metroid universe, so I might as well give it a shot.

What makes me want to make a Metroid-styled game is that Metroid looks a lot like dungeon-crawling in space. There are ancient, unexplored temples and planets that are crawling with exotic and deadly creatures and rigged with traps from a forgotten but advanced race.

It wouldn't be too difficult to throw together a 4e-style "points of light" in space, and given that the games are known for their eerie aesthetics and being set in unexplored worlds, fleshing out the civilized areas and history doesn't seem absolutely necessary at first.

One element of the games that would be very nice to preserve is the "magical" element of ancient technology. I don't know why, but Samus's equipment always seemed very fantastic to me compared to other sci-fi games. Maybe that is because its function is never fully explained and it has strange capabilities.

(mulls this over, brainstorms. References big file of system designs that I never gave fluff.)

>>12842759
>>12842908
Oh shut the fuck up faggotass. Read some fluff.

3rd Edition Space Marine codex, Space Marines attack a Traitor stronghold on an asteroid fortress, with near-zero gravity.

>>12842917
Well, they do get the adapting skin, and the organ for surviving in suspended animation, but zero-G training?
Err, no. Not in any novel, the SM codex, or even Lexicanum.
They don't get issued maneuvering gear, weapons that work outside an atmosphere, or space vehicles not used as boarding craft or as warships. Even IG are better suited for the job.
No, it's cool. Make shit up, I ain't mad.

>>12842919
3th Edition Space Marine codex. Mention of the powerpack of some Space Marine being damaged, the Space Marine notices how his power armour is less protective with less armour.

Same power = more armour rule applies to Space Marines.

It's Powered Armour. Not Space Plate Armour.

>>12842938
That word..."near"....like, "close too but not actually."
Damn so close, and yet so far.
Like "nigh unto zero gravity", like some goofy superhero.

>>12842940
>They don't get issued maneuvering gear, weapons that work outside an atmosphere, or space vehicles not used as boarding craft or as warships. Even IG are better suited for the job.

>IG
>in space

Imperial Guard doesn't FIGHT in space FAGGOT! The Imperial NAVY fights in SPACE, and the IMPERIAL NAVY transports the IMPERIAL GUARD towards their PLANETARY TARGET!

And yes, they do get gear that works without atmosphere.

In fact, all Space Marine weapons work without atmosphere. In fact, Space Marines always wear space suits.

In fact, all power armour has magnetic boots.

>>12838064
>>12838058
Megaman is Samus. The quiet adventurer slowly collecting powerups to eventually fuck everything are one in the same. The only difference is Samus is so god-damn faster and can shoot more directions than left and right.

>>12842973
Man, so mad, so little tangible point-making.
Ok, so...
Vacuum sealed armor, yes. _Weapons_, no. Jump packs need air. So, no, they don't bring EVA specific equipment.

WRONG, bright eyes!
There's an Inquisitor-prompted Stormtrooper assault on a AdMech asteroid facility in the Soul Drinkers novels in which they attack in vacuum resistant suits with proper oxygen apparatus. They get butchered, small surprise, but they're actually equipped for zero gravity and hard vacuum deliberately and carry lasweapons as for among their various merits are how well they work without propellant.
Not Mehreens, cuz the Meh only fight dirt-side -even when it's only a small pile of dirt.

Fail. Fail fail fail.
Gather up your clever greentext use, your so-witty mfw meme away, and most of all your raging Flamer fanboy butthurt, and take them away from /tg/.
And do some basic homework next time.

>>12843027
>There's an Inquisitor-prompted Stormtrooper assault

>Inquisitor-prompted Stormtrooper assault

Yeah, totally Imperial Guard using their own space assets... no.

>Vacuum sealed armor, yes. _Weapons_, no. Jump packs need air.

Bolter, needs no air. Las cannon, needs no air. Plasma gun, needs no air. Jump packs, need no air. Where the fuck did you get that jump packs need air?

>>12843027
>and carry lasweapons as for among their various merits are how well they work without propellant.

>implying bolters need propellant.
>implying rockets need propellant.
>implying space ship thrusters need propellant.

>Not Mehreens, cuz the Meh only fight dirt-side -even when it's only a small pile of dirt.

SPESS MURHEENS DUNT FOIGHT IN SPESS!

>>12843027
>Not Mehreens, cuz the Meh only fight dirt-side -even when it's only a small pile of dirt.
You literally have no idea what you're talking about and I suggest you go look up the Nimbosa Crusade.

>Space Marines don't fight in space

I'll drink to that, friend!

>>12843051
M9 works in vacuum, yet helicopters do not. Who would have thought?

>>12843084
Are you suggesting that a jump pack creates lift by moving air with whirly blades rather than blasting out rocket exhaust?

>>12843077
>mfw I read it in his voic

So much neckbeard nerdrage in this thread.

>>12843084
>jump pack
>helicopter
>the same


OH MY GOD MY HELICOPTER IS ON FIRE OH MY GOD SOMEONE HELP ME AAAAAAAAARGH!

>>12843077
Technically everywhere is a space.

>>12843027
There have been so many threads here arguing whether bolters can fire in zero-G or not... Yes, they can. IA. Storm bolters can to. They have casings because those include the oxygen allowing them to fire in zero-g. Never read the Warhammer monthly comics either, have you? So many times do space marines board Hulks and abandoned ships, it's one of the things they HAVE to do. It's sort of a deal with the mechanicum, they look for STC on hulks, mechanicum provides gear.

Seriously, you did not know this?

Yes, some IG is outfited for zero-g environs. Elysian drop troops, on occasion, for instance. However this is because Elysia is OMFG! rich.

>>12843101
I like it.

I helps me vent my rage on annoying internet-know-all dipshits, instead on people in my direct neighbourhood.

>>12843113
True, but that's semantics.

Unless you're implying there are Space Marines everywhere...

>>12843126
CREEEEEEEED!!

>>12843051
>>12843068
>>12843071

For once, I have a good reaction pic!

But yeah. Blame GW, Space Marines don't fight in space. They fight in asteroids, they fight in space stations, they fight in spacecraft -all kinds of places that're varying kinds of in and near outer space, but not in the stuff itself.
In space they just bob around and hope they get picked up before they starve to death.
Kinda sad, really.

>>12843144
What would an SM be doing bobbing in the middle of space in the first place?
Also
>Implying astronauts can survive in space for extended periods of time with no back up

>>12843144
>Implying anyone would want to fight in DEEP SPACE

Fuck, you're retarded.

They only fight in deep space in Star Wars, because Star Wars is created by a guy with cancer for a brain.

>>12843144
>implying it's useful to fight in empty space

>>12843068

>Fight in space
>Their primary weapon produces much recoil that it can only be wielded by space marines
>Hey guys I'm going to shoot a weapon that fires mini rockets and expect to somehow not go spinning through space out of control.

That is retarded, even for 40k.

>>12843144
Why the fuck would you go fight in deep space? There's NOTHING of value there, absolutely NOTHING.

>>12838393 implying Commissar Cain is not the Emperor in a disguise

Also, tbqh, I enjoy Sandy Mitchell's rendition of the 40K universe over all the other iterations. Ciaphas is a hugely entertaining and likeable rouge vs the one dimensional characters of the GRIMDARK universe

>>12843118
Apologies.
I did know bolt round had to use propellants as they're gyrojet rounds and thus are self-propelled instead of gas-propelled.
But I didn't know they actually carried, in every last one, enough oxygen to create enough thrust to maximize their actual utility.
I should have gotten the Space Hulk crap though. Tsk tsk.
What shame, in not precisely knowing the workings of a fictional super-future bullet, what shame.

Dark Samus and Phaaze show up in 40K.

WHAT NOW?

>>12843181
Derelict with artifacts. Maybe even a metroid larvae.

>>12843191
Your mad is showing when there really isn't a need to be.

>>12843194
Chaos steps it's game up massively, and Abbadon gets replaced.

>>12843177
Name me one source on the ridiculous recoil?

As far as I know, the problem of humans carrying space marine bolters is that it's about the weight of the weapon, not the recoil.

Also, magnetic boots.

Also enhanced muscle strength for bracing.

>>12843191
Even ancient black powder has oxidizers which doesn't require an atmosphere to burn.

>>12843209
Just trying to keep things light and friendly, it's the /tg/ way!

Oh, and jump packs have massive air-intakes, so I kinda assumed they work on rotors and not pure gas expulsion or a ramjet mechanic.

>>12843191
When you're making an argument, you're expected to do the research.

>Space Marines can't fight in space.

>Fluff mentions Space Marines fighting an successful underwater war against an Warboss and his army of U-Boats.

>It's more difficult to fight underwater then in space.

Sometimes I think all of you fell on your head as a kid.

>>12843243
>thinks underwater is more hostile than space
>says "then" when he means "than"
>thinks someone else is the stupid one

giggle.wav

>>12843235
>Oh, and jump packs have massive air-intakes, so I kinda assumed they work on rotors and not pure gas expulsion or a ramjet mechanic.

>artwork shows giant jets of fire coming from jet packs

>videogame jetpacks clearly sound like a jet engine, instead of a rotor

HERPADERP

In Other M, instead of having to find all your stuff you have it all at the beginning, but it has to be authorised first. 'Don't use your power bomb, it will cause too many civilian casualties / collateral damage'

Reasonable right?

There's this part where you have to run through a hot place full of lava, that constantly drains your energy. Why don't you use the Varia suit? BECAUSE ADAM HASN'T AUTHORISED IT, HURR DURRRR. Samus doesn't even say anything, she just takes his orders like a bitch.

That's not even mentioning samey corridors, boring enemies, making Space Pirates boring again and NO EXPLORATION.

>>12843257
Oh, did someone get hurt in the butt?

>>12843217

>Furthermore astrates weapons impose a -30 penalty to all tests made with them by presumptuous mortals due to improper scale, weight, and/or RECOIL- even in power armor.

Thats just what I was able to find in 5 seconds of searching. I'm pretty sure one of the soul drinker books mentions how hard it is for this inquisitor who got a bolt pistol from some marine to fire it properly due to the recoil. The weight is a factor, but theres also the fact you're firing a weapon designed to be braced by a 2 ton super mutant.

>>12843267
>videogame jetpacks clearly sound like a jet engine
Methinks that jet engines still require an atmosphere.

>>12843278
That recoil doesn't matter IF you're a Space Marine.

So
>Fight in space
>Their primary weapon produces much recoil that it can only be wielded by space marines
>Hey guys I'm going to shoot a weapon that fires mini rockets and expect to somehow not go spinning through space out of control.
is total utter bullshit, as Space Marines have no problem with the recoil from a Bolter.

>>12843221
Mm, true.
Same reason you can fire a firearm underwater, after all.
Theoretically you could have a gyrojet that uses an electric ignition as well.
That might not matter, though. No atmosphere, no rotor use. It's all gas-propulsion or nothing...
And AFAIK the issue of Bolters and Recoil lacks a definitive answer. There's no apparent consensus among BL authors, nor as to why the SM Bolters are so much more massive yet Bolt Pistols stay the same size while sharing the same round.

>>12843271
Judging by the things she does in the future, she becomes competent after the end of Other M.

>>12843271

Other M is the metroid version of Matt Ward.

>>12843285
sounds like =/= is the same as

Stop derping.

>>12843289
Space Marines obviously get no recoil from firing a Space Marine Bolter, as the Bolter is designed to be fired by Space Marines who potentially could fight in zero-G environments.

>>12843287

Newtons first law maggot, a marine floating in space who decides to fire off his bolter will go zooming into deep space. End of discussion. No mag boots or other crap is gonna save you if you do something as stupid as firing a bolter on full auto while floating over to the enemy ship.

>>12843267
C'mon, stop making me laugh.
I'm bothering my flatmates.

>>12843271
Yeah, that's part of the creepy. The persistent monotone doesn't help at all. It's like they were actually aiming for Cammy during her brainwashed days -dead, uninvolved, and disconnected.
But to be fair, that's how the Wapanese view soldiers. Obiedience above everything in even the smallest matter = proper service.

>>12843217
>magnetic boots
>bracing
>IN EMPTY SPACE

>>12843243
>underwater
>firing a weapon doesn't send you flying in the other direction
>everything isn't moving at relativistic speeds

>>12843310
Just put them on pneumatic discharge.

Problem solved.

>>12843305

Thats so stupid I don't know where to begin tearing it apart. A gun that is mentioned in fluff as having a hellish recoil, doenst recoil because it was designed for guys who fight in space? Nice logical fallacy bro.

>>12843213
Dark Samus with the Mark of Chaos Ascendant?

Dear god.

>>12843329
>Space Marine bolter designed to be used by Space Marines
>Space Marine fires it
>No recoil

Keep derping friendo.

>>12843330

>Dark Samus as Warmaster of Chaos?

Imokwiththis.jpg

To be honest I highly doubt that samus would even fight the Imperium..probly avoid em all together, but if they where her only empoyers aviable then yeah she would work with em...but pit in a non space fight against any NON HERO class character she could win.....now the ig? she would win for a time but the numbers man DEAR GOD THE NUMBERS! she may have limitless ammo but even that sexy killing machine would fall if enough bodys where poored onto it...and as for space? well fast her ship is but I dont think she would fare well in ship to ship combat

>>12843330
Yeah.
Plasma weaponry with that Flames of Tzeentch Edge.
Armor bolstered by Marks of Nurgle -that ain't just an energy field any more.
Slaanesh for speed, Khorne for ferocity.
The end comes, indeed.

>>12843324
Why the fuck would a Space Marine be floating in deep space anyway?

No cover, faggot.

Just turn on the magnetic boots and stick to the hull of the ship.

Fuck.

If a Space Marine floats away too far in deep space, he can just hit the teleporter beacon, and get back to the ship.

>>12843305
Bolters fire little rockets. Rockets exert force on whatever is behind them. When the bolter shoots, it is pushed backwards by the exiting rocket.

>>12843353
well there's scarier stuff


like dark samus crashing a leviathan right into terra


imagine what phazon overload will do to that lil' corpse of an emperor

Depending on when in the series you take as an example, just THINK for a second of the sheer ludicrous arsenal of weaponry Samus has ever had access to. Her weaponry has included:

- A vaguely explained "energy cannon" with astonishing rapidfire ability
- A missile launcher
- A BIGGER missile launcher
- A triple laser
- A gun that SHOOTS THROUGH WALLS
- A gun that shoots plasma
- A gun that shoots some form of near-absolute-zero condensate
- A dark matter beam and can cause a dimensional fucking rift
- A gun that fires pure concentrated sunlight (wtf?) and can generate a miniature sun
- A gun that shoots homing sonic bursts and can SPLIT THE FABRIC OF SPACE AND TIME
- A laser that shoots pure phazon at shit
- Power bombs, which, let's face it, are basically meltabombs.

>>12843360
>Why the fuck would a Space Marine be floating in deep space anyway?

Exactly.

>>12843368
And that force is held back by the Space Marine's muscles and his powered armour, as Space Marines do not suffer from recoil when firing their bolter.

The idea of a Space Marine FLOATING through space shooting is idiotic, as the Space Marine could easily fire his bolter away from the space ship, to attach his magnetic boots to the hull of the ship/attach some space walk lines to the ship.

>>12843378
Man, it's a videogame from the NES era. Of course it's full of horsecrap bullshit sciencefiction weapons.

Personally, I think they should have stopped making Metroid games when Metroid was still good.

>>12843411
a 40k fan has no right to talk about bullshit


btw a lot of them are from the 3d series

>>12837550
And then comes along a drake. Game over.

>Could the Imperium engineer a more perfect xeno-killing machine?

>Has it already?

Orks.

People always think the Imperium is the big driving genocidal force in 40k, as evidenced by the fact that if it's from 40k, it's either Eldar, Human or Ork.

It isn't the Imperium that's killing all the other aliens.

It's the Orks.

Remember, the Imperium only attack Orks in Imperial space. Outside Imperial space, they don't give a fuck.

>>12843436
One that looks like this.

>Implying that Samus won't get so wet at the sight of muscular manly spess marines that she can't even fight anymore.

>>12843393
True.

Fucktard was making it sound like they didn't have recoil in the first place, though.

>>12843421
>a 40k fan has no right to talk about bullshit

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU WANKING, YOU PIECE OF SHIT?

I WAS PLAYING FUCKING METROID ON MY NES WHEN YOUUUUR FUCKING GAY HOMODAD WAS STILL IN THE WOMB OF A DIRTY HOOKER YOU FUCKING FUCK!

Also, the 3D Metroids were incredibly mediocre compared to the glorious 2D Metroids.

>>12843455
>implying Metroid Prime wasn't pretty incredible
>implying the other 2 aren't still pretty good

>>12843455
I liked Metroid Prime.

In fact, EVERYONE liked Metroid Prime. It was one of the most highly acclaimed games, both critically and popularly, to ever be dragged out of an otherwise dormant franchise. The only bad thing anyone could find to say about it was that the controls were TOO GOOD AND THAT IT WASN'T HALO I AM NOT MAKING THAT UP IGN FUCKING SUCK

And, personally, I adore the Wii control scheme. It works beautifully. It took me, the one with the hand-eye coordination of a dead seventeen-year-old fish, about two minutes to get the hang of it. Anyone who complains that it's "too awkward" can just fucking eat a dick.

>>12843469
>Megman Legends 3 still isn't out

I mad

>>12843472
Want to switch weapons? Here, flick this little stick that registers movement in 8 directions.

Need to aim up? Here, hold this button and stand completely still.

>>12843472
I don't like Metroid prime.

Your point is invalid. In fact, I don't like metroid at all. Or platformers for that matter. Give me fucking Painkiller.

>>12843472
Oh hi there Nintendo marketing board. How's the money you made of the Wii? Still taste good?

>>12843522
The controls for Corruption were awkward when you first started playing it, sure. After a couple of minutes in it was not that hard to get used to em.
I still wish you had the option to use a game cube controller though.

>>12843488
There's going to be a Legends 3.

On that note, which one did you like better, 1 or 2?

>>12843522
Don't be a durp.

>>12843498
I fucking love Painkiller. It is quite likely the most metal game ever.

>>12843490
>need to aim up?
Point the fucking remote up. I aim up.

HOLY BALLS IT'S LIKE THE CONTROLS ACTUALLY DO WHAT I TELL THEM TO AND AREN'T OVERLY COMPLEX OR ANYTHING JESUS CHRIST

>>12843531
And then there are people who like to play first-person games on a controller. For...some unfathomable reason. Sure. Whatever.

Not giving players the CHOICE to use whatever controller they damn well want does kinda suck, but that's what they get for tying the controls so tightly into the actual Wiimote itself.

>>12843553
True, and like I said I do not mind the Wii controller at all, just at those times when you had to scurry around durring a boss fight it didn't help when you lost control because you turned to quickly and aimed too far away from the sensor.
Of course, that might be due to the fact I have herpaderpa motor skills.

>>12843553
You like the Wii? Fuck you, you have no place being a metalhead. In fact, you play games on a console? Fuck you.

It's a shity control! Face it! I don't want to fucking jump around when I game, I have a gym for that. Also, I'm used to the classic controler and it's only awkward if you never used it. It's more immersive then trying to avoid crashing into the couch.

>>12843541
1 honestly, found the town more well developed, loved the interconnecting island-dungeons, and I enjoyed just dashing around town, fighting cars

2 was still great, but more... isolated

>>12843553
>Point the fucking remote up. I aim up.

Hello? Gamecube game?

>>12843594
He's talking about corruption.

>>12843588

My only complaint about 2 was how disjointed everything was. Sure, it was cool to have a bit of a picture of the world, but the single island of the first game was really well done.

I'd still say 2 is easily the better game in every other regard though.

The marines experience less recoil because they mass 10 times as much as an unarmored human, probably, and the round is a rocket anyway so the initial push isn't all the thrust it's got to reach the target.

I somehow never played a metroid game in my life. I feel bereft.

Oh well there's always Samus hentai

>>12843616
The post he responded to was responding to the statement about the Gamecube game controls, specifically
>The only bad thing anyone could find to say about it was that the controls were TOO GOOD

>>12843616

>>12843472
>In fact, EVERYONE liked Metroid Prime. It was one of the most highly acclaimed games, both critically and popularly, to ever be dragged out of an otherwise dormant franchise. The only bad thing anyone could find to say about it was that the controls were TOO GOOD AND THAT IT WASN'T HALO I AM NOT MAKING THAT UP IGN FUCKING SUCK

>>12843630
2 was great, fighting that giant damn robot in the fire dungeon felt epic, and taking over desert town was pretty satisfying

That being said, sometimes it felt too big, too many connecting areas that needed load times.


God I want more Legends

I know this isn´t /v/, but if we´re bitching about Other M:

http://moonbase.rydia.net/mental/blog/gaming/metroid-other-m-the-elephant/article.html

If Samus get all of her guns, a Space Marine should get a multi-melta. No more Samus.

>>12843758
Haven't played Other M (I'm a 2d Metroid hunter)
But half way through and... GOD DAMN!

>>12843786

Unless of course she use her vastly better mobility to attack from more than a dozen meters away from the marine.

What if the X get in the 40K universe ?

How fucked are they ?

>>12844199

Pretty fucked. X are basically a ¨completely destroy this setting overnight¨ button. Once they´re FTL capable, your universe is irredeemably fucked.

They were only able to beat them in Metroid by exterminatusing them before they could get FTL.

>>12843393

>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFkFo5SBx-g

Gee that sure looks like they suffer from recoil to me.

>Inb4 frantic backpedaling by the 40kids
>Inb4 some bullshit claim they make regarding canonicity of a DoW cutscene

If it appears in the media of the franchise, its canon buddy.

>>12844327

Are there STILL people who don´t realize 40K is meant as black comedy? Really?