I thought our plan was to get the Pezun techs to slap together a Zeon Core Fighter and scare the shit out of Hovis.

Anyway, ZIEG ZEONQUEST!

>>12464437

That's not really something you can do in an hour.
Hell, it's not really something that you can do in several years.
Transforming surfaces are more of a Federation thing. It takes Zeonic scientists (through anaheim) something like 6-7 years before they even come up with the Menthuss, and that was hardly all that great. Hell it takes a newtype 14 year old designing the Zeta in his spare time before they finally get the hang of it.

Meanwhile, the feddies (well, the titans really) are throwing out the Gaplant, the Hambrabi, the Gabthley, the Asshimarr...

>>12464395
Maybe we can use the flash grenades to disorient Hovis, and David, Zolomon, and Elayne try for a modified Stream Attack?

>>12464503

Though there was apparently a test type of a Dopp fighter docking with a Gouf.

>>12464503
I'll let Arty explain his idea in further detail. The gist of it is to slap together a Kampher body and thrusters into a space superiority fighter.

>>12464533
How badly did it not work? On a scale of 1 to 10
1 being, the Delta Gundam shaking itself apart.
10 being Space Pirates attempting to replicate the morph ball.

>>12464519

I It would proably be easiest to fit Flash Grenades in the underslung grenade launchers.
So you want to get flash him the flare at close range, whilst Elaine behind you hits him with a Bazooka and Zolomon finishes up with his heat hawks?
If they're anything left, presumably you'll make it up as you go.

As usual.

>>12464503
Delicious delicious Gaplant.

>>12464678
I still think we should try for a chainmine if we can. One solid hit should be enough to take Hovis down pretty soundly, since those things were designed to take out battleships. Obviously it's going to be nigh-impossible, but Zolomon might want to take one just in case.

FUCK TO THE YES JUST IN TIME

>>12464678
Surprise him with the flash grenade, like, right in his cockpit at point blank range.
Do coordinated assaults until David is just close enough, have the flash go off, then synchronized simultaneous attack by all three.

FUUUUUUUUUCK YOUUUUUUUUU!!!!

I was just about to go to bed god damn it. Why in gods name did you have to start this now of all times?

The first team tries it's tactic first.
Multiple Flash Grenades strobe in the battlezone, followed by explosions as rocket proprelled grenades and Bazooka shots impact on or around the Val Valo.

Hovis reacts by moving a high speed, firing his missiles in speculative bursts. He pushes through the formation, apparently splitting them up, he swings around against one he's spotted, using AMBAC manouvers alter his direction of travel.
For a second his large claw arms are useless as they flail in computer organised motions and the Squad Leader attempts to make good on this oppourtunity by getting into his face and firing a burst from his 120mm from slightly above.
He takes some hits to his legs from the Val Velo's frontal Vulcans as he does so. According to your data readings his left leg is registered as destroyed. You didn't think it was that bad of a hit, must have been an unlucky fluke.

In any case, his attack on the Val Velo fails to penetrate, and with his legs damaged, he is unable to escape in time before the claws coil around him and finish him off.
His squadmates were just a second late as they make there assault. A pair of paint-explosions erupt from both sides.
Your readouts report light damage, and that the primary armour on the MA is 78% depleted.
Hovis continues to swing around, firing missiles as he does so. His megaparticle cannon reaches out, but fails to make contact. The other two are already gone.

They manage to make three runs before a stray missile takes out the second, upon which Hovis runs out of missiles, the last one attempts to finish the battle seeing him run out of ordinance, and manages to disable the left claw and the power feeds to the MP Cannon before the final claw managed to heavily clip him.
Whilst the teams attempt could be considered a failure, the Val Valo is so badly damaged that you personally would call it a draw. If that last guy had curbed his enthusasism for closing in, he might have finished it.

>>12464763
Because it's 5 GMT, and I was COMPLETELY knackered on friday?

>>12465014
Does 12PM EST - 5PM GMT work for everyone? I mean, I'm okay with it, but that's because I'm EST.

The second squad begins it's run.

The three of them first get Hovis's attention by firing off a bazooka shot at him. The shot goes wide, but it nevertheless get's the Val Valo's attention and they dodge away from his return fire. Despite their plan, the Val Valo refuses to pursue into the debris field and the two groups trade long range fire over large distances.
As you expected, Squad 2 loses his patience first and closes in. Not completely without guile he pushes a couple of debris pieces in first to cover is advance.
Technically speaking, this is a breach of the Testing Area rules, due to the possility of lethal collisions as well as creating navigation hazards.
On the battlefield however, it's still a perfectly fair tactic. One that you employed yourself yesterday.

The three come out from behind their cover and attack the Val Valo from three directions, circling around it at full speed, trying to avoid his return fire.
Hovis reacts well, constantly cycling the missiles on full auto whilst rotating and twisting on full burn himself, attempting to outdistance the Zaku's surrounding him.
In the end, his large thrusters prove the day, and he's able to outpace them. He swings around, his AMBAC disabled and levels a full barrage at the enemy with his missiles, mega particle beams and vulcans. One Zaku takes a direct strike and is instantly marked Destroyed, another is unable to avoid the missile storm and is destroyed also. The last one loses it's left arm and takes thruster damage, making him an easy target to finish off.

Well. Now it's your turn. So:
YOUR ORDERS?
also, brb dinner.

>>12465192
Follow the plan from here >>12464714
the modified Stream Attack, and throw in some chain mines.
Zolomon will try to entangle the MA's claws with a chain mine while David will try to hit the main body with one and Elayne uses her bazooka.

Flash strobe as an opening move works fine. Followed with a spaced bazookas, flash, and more bazookas. Don't just dump ammo, but intersperse shooting while Hovis is blinded.

The last salvo should be rapidly followed by -successive- charges with chainmines, 2 at least. First charger ought to come in the direction of the big cannon, while Hovis is still blinded and doesn't want to waste his big shot. Eat vulcan if you have to, and try to get one claw out of order. Second charger comes in from behind and chainmine the other claw, whether or not the first is destroyed.

Meanwhile non charging member pepper Hovis with zook at big cannon. Both chargers leave and pepper Val Varo with a last flash and all ammunition. And then the last member charges in with heathawk to either cockpit, big cannon, or main sensor.

Only problem is Val Varo's speed, and the possibility of Hovis deciding to spam attacks instead of dodging if he realizes that we are going to keep him in the dark for with successive flashes.

>>12465267

It's your turn.
You don't know how well you can pull off the Jetstream attack on your first try, but that's what practice exercises are for.

You give everyone a Chain Mine to use if they get in close. You cluster together, and wait for the go signal.
At the sign, the three of you surge forwards towards the Val Valo in single file.
"Stay in formation." you remind the other two as you lift up over the Megaparticle beam that reaches out at you.
You arm the flashbang in your GL and as the Vulcan banks send streams of 120mm paintballs towards you, you fire it and pull off and under the bulk of the Mobile Armour.
Above you, Elaine fires her bazooka in the instant your mobile suits head clears her line of fire. Your readout records the cockpit taking heavy damage. The armour is completely shattered, and the command signal circuitry has taken some damage.
Zolomon comes in with his Heat Hawk ready and Elaine lifts up and over, her chain mine lashes out at the nearest pince as it tries to grasp at Zolomon. The weapon entangles the claw, and then explodes taking out the claw.
Paying no heed to the vulcan shots all around him, Zolomon charges forward and slashes with his axe. His slash misses the cockpit fractionally hitting on the left side. With the depleted armour, the computers register critical damage, severing control to the Left arm, left gunbanks, and left missiles.
As Zolomon breaks off you manage to hit the underside with your own Chain mine. The damage punches through the armour in several places, causing a cluster of fauls in the drive system. It looks like he's taken a power and agility hit.

With him so badly weakened, you tell the rest of the team to stick to his lefthand side, and pour on fire from that flank until eventually the Val Velo stops moving. With his engines damaged, he can't swing around to face you.

Looks like the jobs a good un again.

>>12465823

I hope we havn't forgotten about the MS sized black tri-star memorial armband paintjob.

Back in early October we visited Solomon after capturing that Fed Carrier Hovis blew the engines off of.

>In the evening you go over various officer testimonials and try to put more into the space combat side of your combined arms doctrine. From the looks of it, whilst there's nothing wrong with using Space Fighters as harassing forces to keep control of the flanks, logistically they die too easily and often there are too few of them (or rather pilots for them) to make that tactic consistently viable.
>You recommend they build a better space fighter, but in the off chance that comes off as flippant, you try to think up alternate strategies.

So we potentially set things in motion for a new space fighter a month ago. After we get our medals we should ask the techs about that.
We should also ask Anita about helping us sechedule some appointments with various research groups and fellow officers. We should deffinitely hold a briefing on Trojan Horse weak points once we and the Wappa team are all debriefed.

All told. A pretty good first attempt of the Jetstream attack, which everyone appreciates when you all get back together to discuss how the second rounds went.
There's some reprimands from Exercise Control over moving the debris field. It was a good attempt, but frankly you get the feeling that Team 2 aren't as good as they think they are.
Team 1 on the otherhand you can see improvement with, all they need is a bit of confidence to engage at slightly longer ranges and they could have won that last round.

The exercise continues for two more rounds of the same. In the end, Team 2 eventually manages to get lucky, and win with attrition tactics. Team 1 on the other hand manages to go on to score two more wins. Your team never actually fails to defeat Hovis, although he does manage to defeat you personally by bracketing you in the debris field.

You draw some pretty interesting conclusions to MS vs MA combat tactics. You make a mental note to add them to some tactical essay at some point.

In any case, time's running short, so you all decide to call it a day as you have to get ready for the awards ceremony.

>>12465907

Isn't the saberfish space capable as well?

>>12465947
Yes but that's basicly a rip off of a federation design. It'd be easier to build up from a Zeon design already being worked on if we wanted to put beam weapons on them.

*COUGH*
>>12460279
*COUGH*

>>12465872

I thought we were just wearing that on our uniforms?

As I recall it was a single black armband, divided into three bands by lines of purple.

Anyway. You all get ready in your dress uniforms for the awards ceremony in one of the Briefing Auditoriums.
As you arrive you are greeted by the Station Head: Commodore Zamza, still much the same as you remember. Strauss is there as well.

"Gentlemen, we are assembled here to recognise the actions of those who gave their all in the name of Zeon, and more importantly what Zeon stands for, and what it SHOULD stand for. We are here honour those who are not here today, and for those who have given more than they should ever have been asked to give, and for those who have given more than was thought possible. Those who have stopped the unstoppable, those who have seen through the invisible, defeated the undefeatable and above all else, shown all men, be the federation or Zeon, what it truly means to be soldiers."

There's much clapping. Although you felt that it rambled on a little bit.

The awards take about an hour. Aside from the promotions you requested all going through. Everyone get's upgrades to their Knights Crosses, which techincally makes Nachtmaren a unit of Knights of the Realm.
All surviving members of the battle for odessa are given a specially crafted medal: The Odessa Cross. Plus, all of you who took part on the Jaburo op are awarded Operation Hunter campaign badges, and both you and the Mashiba team are awarded another Badge of Merit.

This concludes the awards cermony. You don't have anything scheduled for the rest of the day.

WAT DO?

>>12466183
See how our squad is holding up after recent events. Might be time to try to boost morale if it's needed.

>>12466183
Go have a drink with Straus, now that we're not about to pass out.

Can we reach Garma? Might want to check in with him. Maybe Dozle too. Just see if our commanders have anything planned for us.

>>12466274
>>12466205
>>12466217

Strauss is busy for the next few hours, but he should be able to make it to the officers mess for a quick dink around then. He says to invite Zolomon too. Since the officers mess in Pezun has no Karaoke facilities, you see no danger in this.

The rest of the team seem fine. You haven't seen Mauser in a while, but he's probably busy with his ship. Jolyne comes back reporting that the Gyan Cannon is okay, but the for a cannon variant she feels that the Shoulder Cannons lack punch, even with two of them.
She can't fault the close quarters abilities of it though, which will make a nasty suprise for someone sooner or later.

You try to gain contact with Garma or Dozle. There are no pending messages from them. Whilst Dozle's staff aides report that he's currently busy, Garma's aide reports that he is currently free if you wish to speak to him.

WHAT DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO GARMA ABOUT?

>>12466434
Some about Federation counter attacks. But mostly about Gihren.

It's getting to the point where he has to be stopped. One way or another.

>>12466434

Ask him what he plans to do next. Also, ask him if we can talk to Char about fighting the Gundam.

Talk about peace with the feds. Pretty soon it will have to come, and it will have to be more of a ceasefire followed by a pretty fed balanced treaty.

>>12466591
Not now though. Zeon is currently caught with pants down, and the Feds would hardly allow peace treaty unless it is heavily skewed in their favor.

We need to get Gihren under control, then get some break through over Feddies. Or we get break through first, then sue for cease fire to kick Gihren's ass, because, undoubtedly, he still have plans against Earth.

>>12466434
Ask how many of our forces managed to escape Odessa. What are Loyalist Zeon's assets? What suits do we have available and in what numbers?

Also, talk to the Pezun scientists and/or Garma about slowing research for new suits and shifting our resources to making the high end suits that have already been developed.

>>12466545
>>12466503

You ask Garma about what he plans to do now. You also voice concerns that the situation with Gihren and his Loyalists will need resolving sooner or later.

"For now, I've got the factories in New York and California working overtime to try and regroup our losses. I'm also seeing a fairly large influx of surviving units from Odessa reaching our shores that I'm trying to integrate with our current forces. The Federation have become bolder with the loss of Odessa as well. It's relatively quiet on the Rio Grande Line, Jaburo is still trying to recover it's losses from the looks of things. The north is becoming a meatgrinder though, especially with the winter weather making conditions much more difficult than they were even previously. As soon as the Outer Heaven is repaired I'm going to want you down here on either that front, or making our fourth and *sigh* hopefully final attack on Jaburo. As for Gihren, my fear is that if we concentrate on him, the forces we'd need to expend to finish the matter would leave us completely exposed to the Federation. But as you say, we DO need to do something. I believe Kycillia is looking into other more ...distasteful methods, you may want to travel to Grenada whilst the Outer Heaven is being repaired to talk to her more about that."

You talk to him about what we'd have to do to call a ceasefire.

"I doubt we'd be able to get decent terms out of the federation at the moment. Odessa is being treated as a major victory for the the Federation. I'll talk to father about opening a line for a dialogue though. I'll have to do it via letter again though. Are you up to sending Father another letter?"

"Sure, I can't cause ANOTHER civil war can I?" You reply.

So I guess we go do that then.

>>12466782
Well then, how about if at the same time as we attack Jaburo, Garma also sends some of our forces to go after Ghiren? He'd be quite a catch, and as has been said, he can be a good scapegoat for Zeon and a good bargaining chip at the negotiation tables.

Yeah, let's go see the rest of the zabis. All of them, Kycilla, Dozle, Degwin. Not Gihren, obvo.

>>12466782

Is Icelina still with Degwin?

Does his glorious hair need to send a message?

You're discussion with Garma finished you get back into your non-dress uniform, get some chow and a few hours later pick up Zolomon and make your way to the Officers Mess, where you all meet up with Strauss.

The three of you talk about old times, and what you've been all upto since Mastodon Battalion.
It seems that since the Civil War brewed up Strauss has been seeing more combat around here. He's also been working with Ramba Ral a lot.
Anyway, you all have a pleasant night and leave round about last orders at 11pm Zeon Time.

You get back and check your mail, mostly to make sure that nobodies managed to get into a bar fight or something since you were gone. It looks like you managed to luck out.

You do however have a mail from the docks saying that the outer heaven is going to take 12 days to fully repair. Well, that cements that. You make another note to call Garma with the ETA in the morning. Assuming he doesn't already know by then, and get to sleep.
Overall, not the worst day you've had.
You may have had better, but you doubt anything's going to beat that week of Laua's in Hawaii in June.

>>12466970
You aren't really sure. Although you imagine she would have taken a civilian transport back to America by now. Even Gihren hasn't gone as far as to randomly attack neutral civilian shipping.

Can we requisition another ship for the purpose of visiting Grenada and delivering the letter? Any simple transport would do.

Curse Gihren's name some. IF it hadn't been because of that missile launch and resulting EMP damage to Zeon forces...

>>12467024

. . . You sure?

Ohshit! Ask Garma how he and Icelina are doing. Possible way to indicate Earthanoids and Spacenoids can chill and have themselves a peace treaty?

Oh, and we need to check up on the Flanagan Institute people. Someone mentioned that last thread.

>>12467047
Yes. You can requisition passage on a ship heading to Grenada quite easily.
Although, shouldn't you wait for Garma's letter to arrive by post first?

>>12467072

Dammit, getting ahead of things. As usual.I need to remember everyone isn't an EXPERT POSTMAN like SIR DAVID LISTER.

>>12467061

And ask him when we can expect a wedding invitation.

In all seriousness, this would be a good way to cement a political alliance b/w NA and Zeon.

>>12467082

Actually, that could be our post-war plan.

LISTER MOBILE SUIT POSTAL SERVICE. WE'LL GET IT THERE NO MATTER HOW MANY WARS WE HAVE TO START.

>>12467148
HAHAHAHAHAAH

You get up around 8 in the morning, get some food and get ready. You're checking your digital mail for the morning when you receive a priority communication from Strauss.

"Strauss here, how quickly can you prepare your team? We have a situation developing in the nearby space zones."

"I haven't checked in with them yet, with I'd estimate ten to fifteen minutes. Why?"

"We've just received word from the 013th Experimental Corps attatched to the Flanagan Institute, their ship, the Bifrost is under heavy attack from Loyalist forces. They're retreating to reach our protection envelope, but they're badly damaged, and they say their Mobile Suit escort has been destroyed. I'm preparing my team, and we've got a Musai for ship support. I'll see you down in Dock 3 in 20 minutes."

YOUR ORDERS?

>>12467186
Fuck. Wake dudes up. Make sure to barge into Jolyne's room unannounced, since she could be naked.

Then suit up.

>>12467148

Oh god. DO EET DRAWFAGS.

I want a company logo for "Nachtmaren Deliveries" with the tagline "I WILL END YOU-re delivery woes" underneath.

>>12467186
Get everyone ready. Though, isn't Garma and Dozle and them the Loyalists? Why would we be attacking them? Or are the Loyalists Ghiren's faction and I've just got things messed up?

>>12467186
AWRIGHT IT'S GO TIME BABY

Strauss is not allowed to die. Nor is anyone else. And remember: punk Loyalist bitches left and right, wholesale. We want Flanagan friends to stay our friends.

I'll leave loadouts for people who know what's the best for these situations.

>>12467186
Time to get Hovis in the Val Varo for some anti-ship warfare.

Hovis, David, and Zol go for the enemy ships while Bernie, Elaine, and Jol secure the allied ship against the enemy MS? Calvin does his recon thing as usual.

Can we get some anti-beam chaff for the Val so it can get past any nasty Gelgoog's beam shots long enough to close in with the traitor Musai?

>>12467186

OhgodpleasetellmetheZeongisours.jpg

Roll out with our best stuff. Ghiren's probably got MP Gelgoogs at this point, so take no chances.

Bring out the experimental MSes like the Gyan Cannon.

Live combat so close to Pezun is a godsend. Lets collect all the data we can.

>>12467212
Garma, Dozle, and Kycillia are the Legitimacey.

Gihren has his Loyalist lapdogs.

>>12467212
Loyalist is Gihren's people.
Legitimacy is Kycillia, Dozle, and Garma, I think.

>>12467233
Would Gihren even have anybody who could pilot it? We have Char and all the best newtypes.

We need an excuse to go check the newtype facility, and to go fuck around with Kycilla to see if there's some Covert-type shit we can do to cripple Ghiren.
If only there was some pressing reason to-
>Corps attatched to the Flanagan Institute, their ship, the Bifrost is under heavy attack from Loyalist forces
Well there we go.
Grab a MS carrier, get everyone right the fuck on board. Hovis! Val Varo and/or Bigro.
Actually, list our space-capable MSes. What have we got in the way of space-fighting MSes?

>>12467206

The logo needs a menacing looking Skull Knight carrying a bright and cheerfully wrapped package as well.

Hmm. Or we could go down a ridiculously adorable route and chibify the skull knight and his stead. Pic related.

>>12467253
. . . This is a terrible, terrible thing to suppose-

But I think he has Norris Packard.

He also has that lunatic designer who was going to make the Apsalus.

>>12467253

I meant, I hope we're gonna be able to use the Zeong. Or the High-mobility Psycommu test type Zaku, that would be nice too.

Can we only bring as much as we can fit into the Musai, are are they close enough that we don't need to take a ship?

>>12467239
Ohhhhhhh. I thought we were the Loyalists since we're loyal to Degwin. My bad.

>>12467269
We should try to convince Packard to support Degwin instead of Ghiren if we can.

>>12467316

The only chance we get of that is if we get Aina to defect first.

You quickly start loudly paging everyone else in the team. You also send a message to Ookawara to prep your Mobile Suits for combat.
Most of them are already up, Zolomon needs to be woken as he's still sleeping off last night, and although he seems groggy, you know he'll shake it off by the time you get into a cockpit. You all rush down, stuffing yoruselves into your Vacuum suits as you do, to Hangar 11 where your suits are being stored.

"Okawara, have you got anything for Calving and Hovis?"

"I'd like to say I anticipated such a thing, but actually I can't take full credit... Hovis requested that the Val Valo he was using yesterday be requisitioned to the unit whilst were in space, and Calvin retained the Gyan he was testing with Jolyne yesterday and spent most of last night fixing the Recon package we were using on the Pezun Dowdage to it."

"Is the Val Velo armed with live ammunition?"

"We'll have her fully loaded by the time you're all suited up and armed, don't you worry."

SUITS AVAILABLE
1 NACHT-ZAKU (Your Act Zaku with an improved energy generator, allowing you to use beam weapons and with enahnced verniers for even more manouvability. There's a small smattering of extra armour here and there as well.)
2 Gelgoogs (One with the Cannon pack, the other with the B type manouveability pack)
1 Gyan Kreiger
1 Gyan RECON
1 VAl Velo
1 Zaku Kai

CHOOSE YOUR ARMAMENTS

>How badly did it not work? On a scale of 1 to 10

http://gundam.wikia.com/wiki/MS-07W_Gouf_Core_Fighter_Test_Type

>The MS-07W Gouf Core Fighter Test Type is a mobile suit variant of the MS-07B Gouf build by California Base to test out their own core block system. Using a Dopp Fighter it was a form of escape if the Gouf were to be destroyed. The Gouf Core Fighter Test Type is in Garma Zabi custom colors in his honor since he is the commander of the North American Zeon forces under the command of his brother Dozle Zabi, residing temporarily in California. The Gouf Core Fighter Test Type main weapons are two shields and two heat sword type-βIV.

It was painted in Garma's colours.

>>12467339
Well then, we just need some likable prettyboy to befriend her and convince her to switch sides. Shouldn't be too hard. Fucking Shiro.....

>>12467356
Nacht Zaku/David-Beam carbine, bullpup, Gundam shield, heat hawk, grenades
Gelgoog B/Elaine: beam rifle, giant bazooka, beam naginata, Zulu shield
Gelgoog C/Jo: beam cannon, beam rifle, wrist rocket pod, Zulu shield.
Gyan Krieger/Zol-beam lance, Krieger shield
Gyan Recon/Calvin-beam sword, Gyan shield, MMP-80 if available, grenades
Zaku Kai/Bernie-2x MMP-80, Zaku bazooka, panzerfausts, sturm fausts, heat hawk, chain mine

Hovis gets his Val Varo. We might want to look into welding some handholds onto it so we can use it as a booster sled.

>>12467339

Uh, Aina went AWOL round about the point that forces from Torrington and Madras took the BeiJing base.

As did curiously the squad leader of the Federations 8th MS team after the battle, which saw three Mk2 Aspalus MA's keep the enemy occupied whilst a Zanzibar full of escaping soldiers made it into space.
There are no records of a Gouf Custom participating in this battle, although Zeon command still has sporadic reports of MS equipped Geurrilla's operating against the federation in that general area.
Possibly trying to make their way to Africa.

Intepret this data as you will.

Just thought you should know.

>>12467438

One of the few happy endings in 0079.

Awesome.

*Makes a note on to-do: "Get Norris before loyalist dogs do*

>>12467438
Goddamnit Shiro! Well, at least if Packard makes it back to a Zeon base he can get a sitrep about what's happened, hopefully from a very anti-Ghiren perspective.

>>12467422
Don't forget, with the Nacht-Zaku's improved reactor you can now power Gelgoog beam weaponry if you so desire.
Also, Pezun's armoury list Beam-Sabers as well as Beam Naginta's as being stock as well.
Along with what appears to be the MkIV version of the Beam Bazooka that Jolyne tested waaaaaaay back.

>Hovis gets his Val Varo. We might want to look into welding some handholds onto it so we can use it as a booster sled.

You might not have time to weld hand-holds on for this mission. But it's something to consider for later.

>>12467493
Oh really? Well in that case, replace the Nacht's heat hawk with a beam saber or two.

The rifle/carbine thing is a toss-up. Gelgoog rifles are more powerful and have greater range, but the carbine's ability to be fired offhand and burst-shot capabilities have repeatedly saved our asses.

>>12467541
So, keep the carbine take a couple of beam sabers, otherwise keep the loadout?

>>12467493
I say upgrade where available.

And, on an unrelated note, what's the story with the "Zeon's Gundam" thing? I've heard of it before.

>>12467576 here.
Keep the carbine though. >>12467541 is right about it.

>>12467493
Ride Hovis into battle
advicelister.jpg
It's a perfectly valid tactic

>>12467541
Carbine it is. David's pretty much Zol's wingman for most of the campaign.

>>12467606
Pretty sure you meant to say Zol is David's Wingman for the campaign.

Did the Bifrost give any specific details on what was attacking it? That could be useful to know.

>>12467493
>Mk.IV Beam Bazooka

Time to reintroduce Jolyne to an old friend.

>>12467576

I'm not really sure, I know that's what the Gundam looks like if you use it with a Zeon pilot in Federation Vs Zeon for the PS2. I also think it's in Gihren's Greed a couple of times.

You mount up inside your newly refurbished NachtZaku and do a quick systems check.

"Before you leave there's just a few new things you should know about." Says Okawara over the comm.

"You didn't mess with the balance did you?" you ask concerned.

"No, everythings all balanced out to the ratios you left. Anyway, I've fitted a 4 meter long heat blade into both of your forelegs that extends from the bottom sole of your feet. I figure it'll be good for giving reach to those kicks you keep making. Next, we installed a pair of Gouf Custom pattern Heat Rods into your forearms, aside from the obvious, they also make good grappling lines."

"Right, I think I see where the switches for those all go, plus I see you added some head vulcans."

"Just a pair of 50mm guns. The penetration isn't great, but it's an extra edge right?"

"Right."

Once you're all loaded up, you exit the Hangar bay into space, and make your way around the asteroid to rendezvous with Strauss and his team of 4. They're piloting a mix of high end mobile suits, 2 Rick Dom II's, a Kampfer and a pair of High-Mob Gyans. Strauss himself is in some unidentified mobile suit that appears to be a cross between a Gelgoog and a Gyan. You're targeting computer registers it's IFF registry as "MS-17" It appears to be armed with a Beam Rifle.

"Good to see you made it in time, we'll be travelling aboard or with the Falmel Cruiser Pasternak at full speed to try and meet with the Bifrost to save them in time. Intelligence puts them as being under attack by a pair of Chivvay class cruisers with thier mobile suits. If we're lucky we can overturn them in 20 minutes. Hopefully there'll be something to save by then." he tells you.

Three mobile suits go inside the musai's hangers, whilst the rest of you mount on the ship to stay up with it. The Val Valo makes good speed alongside.

>>12467819
Oh boy, more dakka!

>Anyway, I've fitted a 4 meter long heat blade into both of your forelegs that extends from the bottom sole of your feet. I figure it'll be good for giving reach to those kicks you keep making. Next, we installed a pair of Gouf Custom pattern Heat Rods into your forearms, aside from the obvious, they also make good grappling lines."
Yes.
Wait, does this weigh down the Act Zaku at all? Does the extra armament affect its manoeverability?

>>12467819

It's a Galbady! Holy shit!

>>12467886
Even if it did we got its maneuverability upgraded along with the power plant and, obviously, newly integrated weapons.

After 15 minutes you can finally spot the tell-tale flashes of the battle up ahead, it's still to far away to get any details. You ask Calvin if he can see anything any better.

"I think I can make out 4 mobile suits or so. Might be more. I can't get a feel for their class, but... wait, that was a beam rifle shot. Whatever they are, they're packing."

It looks like the ship has released several Anti-Beam chaff packs into the battlefield, but it's running low.
You ask the Musai carrying you if it's packing Anti-Beam Chaff.

"Yes, we can deploy on your order if you want Commander." is the reply.

You're about 2 minutes away, and the targets have resolved to 5 Gelgoogs, the Bifrost itself is heavily damaged, and smoking and on fire. It wont last too longer.
Calvin tells you that there are two Heavy Cruisers trailing it from a distance, although you can't see them. Strauss is launching his squad now.

YOUR ORDERS?

>Anyway, I've fitted a 4 meter long heat blade into both of your forelegs that extends from the bottom sole of your feet.

We should've made a pelvic thrust our signal attack.

Now we will never have a laser penis like the Big O.

>>12467819

So wait. We can kick people in HALF now? And forearm chop fools likewise?

>>12468024

If we get any chances, go for pilot-only kills. A Gelgoog is a terrible thing to waste.

Same goes for those cruisers. If we can manage to mission kill them and force a surrender, we could go buy ourselves a big admiral's hat!

>>12468024
Maybe have Hovis, Calvin, and Jolyne go to become those cruisers' worst nightmares, while David, Zolomon, Bernie and Elaine ride in hard to take down those Gelgoogs.

The Musai can go against the enemy cruisers provide support. Hopefully Jolyne can get in a shot with her beam bazooka before they release anti-beam chaff.

Actually, that's an idea: Have Calvin and Jolyne use ballistics ahead of the Musai, with Hovis hiding behind it. That way the enemy will hold off on using their chaff, thinking we don't have beam weapons. Until Jolyne cores one with her bazooka and Hovis comes out from behind the Musai like a bat out of hell.

>Don't forget, with the Nacht-Zaku's improved reactor you can now power Gelgoog beam weaponry if you so desire. Also, Pezun's armoury list Beam-Sabers as well as Beam Naginta's as being stock as well.
Ask about a beam hawk later since the Act Zaku is set up with the space for a heat hawk anyways.
You are now picturing Zolomon with Beam Hawks. Manually.

>Along with what appears to be the MkIV version of the Beam Bazooka that Jolyne tested waaaaaaay back.
Well I think that may solve our beam weapon shortage. Rick Dom's have enough power output to use those and they deal roughly the same damage as a regular beam rifle.

>>12467819
>Endless Act Zaku modifications.
MY GOD IT'S BEAUTIFUL! Does seem like a lot of stuff to keep track of though.

>>12468093
Seonding.

>>12468024
Launch our squad to engage the gelgoogs, have Hovis attack the cruisers and unlock our suit limiters and go full newtype on the Gelgoogs.

>>12468024
Have everyone interdict the Gelgoogs for now, we have to secure the Bifrost. If we attract the attention of the cruisers, send Hovis over to sink them.

>>12468108
>>12468133
>>12468108

You order the Musai and Val Velo to go after the enemy ships whilst the Mobile Suits go after the Gelgoogs.

The two groups break away and head towards their targets. As the distance between you and the Bifrost shortens you can finally make out just how bad the ship is damaged. It's already beginning to launch escape pods whilst still firing back. The engines appear completely disabled and there's a lot of smoke and debris everywhere.
You engage a nearby Gelgoog as it swings round puts a beam shot at close range through a point defence turret. The shot has the fuzzy look of a weapon fired through low concentrations of AB-Chaff, as do the trio of shots fired from your own Beam Carbine. Sparks fly from the Gelgoog as you hit with two good shots. His right arm is sheared clean, the Beam Rifle with it, and the armour on his left leg melts away. You finish him off by testing out your new Leg blades, slicing the stricken suit clean in half. Both ends fall away.
Around you it's a similar tale, Zolomon's already engaged a pair of Gelgoogs, with Elaine backing him up. Bernie and a Rick Dom II from Strausses squad are back to back keeping a trio of them from closing in. The trio then becomes a two as Jolyne snipes one from afar.

Strauss is with you and points you towards the next target, you acknowledge his hand signal and move in to flank the opposing Gelgoog.

The Bifrost then launches it's special transport pod, used to transport MA's. The hatches blast away to reveal a white Zaku type mobile suit with a large thruster pack instead of legs. You recognise it as being similar to the one you fought in Pezun several months ago.

Then the Bifrost explodes.
Violently.

You're rocket about in your seat and tossed head over heels as your entire screen goes white...

>>12468355

D:<

Those 2 cruisers must die in payment.

>>12468355
Was that a self destruct or did the reactors light off?

>>12468355
:< Sadface......

Wonder who's piloting the MA- oh who am I kidding we all know it's Nell.

>>12468416
Isn't that the girl Lister terrified into a nigh-catatonic state during that test?

>>12468355

GENTLEMEN.

Nachtmaren needs a loli-newtype pilot of its very own.

>>12468416
We may hope it's Nell but there's always a chance it could be Lalah Sune.

Hey guys, David has never piloted a Gelgoog, provided we dont end up 'you have died in the intense explosion' it's something to check out later. We could quickly try out the various Gelgoog and Gyans available and get a better feel of them and ways to improve them.

>Strauss is with you and points you towards the next target
What's Strauss piloting btw?

>>12468391

Could have been any one of several things.

When you come to, you do a quick check of everybody. Nobody reports damage, just a little shook -up. The Gelgoogs are pulling back to try and defend their ships, in the distance you can see that your forces have engaged the enemy vessels.

Overhead the white shape of the MS you saw the Bifrost launch just before it exploded roar past you at high speeds, pursuing the enemy mobile suits. The psycommu Wire-Guided Beam Hands launching away.
Even with the losses you inflicted on them, the white suit is still outnumbered. You order the rest of the team to pursue the enemy, and to try and keep the friendly alive.

You all push forwards, naturally sinking into a combat formation, taking the occaisional shot at the enemy. Most of your fire is ineffectual as the Anti-Beam Chaff density worsens.

There's a yellow flash, and a Gelgoog explodes as 5 beam guns are shot through it at point blank.
By now however the Gelgoogs are firing back. Fuzzy looking lines streak out to try and catch the White suit, which turns and twists in torturous yet strangely precise evasive maneouvers.

You see the Kampfer on Strausses team push ahead, flanked by the two Rick Dom's all firing their bazooka's to try and put extra pressure on the enemy as you get close to the Chivvays.
Their shots don't actually manage to kill any, but they have to use their shields to defend themselves against it, which leaves one momentarily open, 5 beam shots split him in twain from head to crotch as a result.

Then Zolomon is dashing ahead of your all, rockets streaming ahead of him like they're travelling in slow motion and the widening corona of high explosives expands outwards until both he and it hit the enemy formation like a comet.

Explosions and smoke follow. Then chaos, in the middle of which, as is default is Zolomon Ringo.

>>12468528
Galbady Alpha

>>12468483

We must make it an order for her to be dressed in goth loli at all times.

Pic very related

>>12468529
Goddamnit Zolomon, why do we even need to be around with you doing this every mission.

>>12468468
Yes.

>>12468483
At this rate, Nachmaren isn't just going to be a squad, or a special forces unit. We're going to be a full Company.

>>12468529
We should try to find out which it was. Also, once we've finished off the enemy, collect the escape pods and help them back to Pezun on our Musai.

>>12468580
To kill shit while they're picking their jaws up and/or changing out of soiled pants.

>>12468536
MFW Galbady Alpha

>>12468529
>Then chaos, in the middle of which, as is default is Zolomon Ringo.

>I'd be the main character if this was a super robot show.jpg

Strauss pulls along side you as you descend into the melee.
"They did it! They finally did it! They actually managed to make a suit that Zolomon could charge into the middle of something and survive!"

You don't have time to answer as you close the gap with the enemy. You drag a beam rifle out of a gelgoogs hands with your heat rod, he looks at you confusedly and you fire 6 shots into him from close range in reply. The AB-Chaff is getting pretty bad here, and you replace your Beam Carbine with your Bullpup. A Gelgoog sees an opening and attacks you with his Naginta, you turn the blow aside with your gundam shield, spray his sensors with head vulcan before slicing the offending arm off at the joint with your leg blades via a backflip. When you right yourself, you fire a close range burst from your Bullpup into him. The suit disintegrates under the heavy fire. Although you do need to lash it on.

In the distance there is an explosion. With a bit of luck, that's the enemy Cruisers being dealt with. The AB-Chaff is playing merry hell with laser coms.
Zolomon has already killed another one with his charge, and the others are already making kills of their own. It looks like they weren't expecting you to respond with such numbers, or for Pezun to deploy it's ace fighters.
The battle is over within minutes, the enemy fight to the last, choosing to fight to the death rather than surrender.
It's a bad precedent for the civil war, and you ask Strauss if this is common.

"Not so much, but sometimes you do get diehard fanatics who dote on Gihren's every word. It seems he's been seeding them within the military for years. Most probably in preparation for a coup attempt anyway. Well, that's what I think anyway."

>>12468599

Well sweet, I wake up and this is still going. Now I just hope I can stick around.

>>12468631
Like >>12468592
says, let's pick up the escape pods and deposit them on the Musai, and call for a salvage team from Pezun to pick up the enemy Gelgoogs. At the very least, they might be good for spare parts.

>>12468719

We should be able to salvage what we can now.

The MSs just fly alongside the Musais.

>>12468631
Contact the MYSTERY PILOT and ask if they're okay.

>>12468631
Let's try to newtype communicate with the pilot of the psychomu zaku.

You rejoin with the White Mobile suit. It's taken no actual damage, except i appears that the left cable for it's arm was severed at one point. It's just sitting in space waiting for you.

"Uh, unidentified friendly, are you okay?"
You don't get any response.
"Unidentified friendly please respond."
There's another moment of silence before you get a reply.
"I want to go home please."
It sounds like a scared little girl.

"It's fine Nell, it's me Wolf. We can take you home, but first let's go to Pezun first and get a new ship okay." Strauss joins in.

"You know her?"
"The Institute usually either tests out their newtype weapons either on Grenada or here, Nell was usually the test pilot they used for testing in Pezun, as she was one of the less tempermental examples they had, and could stand to travel easier than others."
"... gone, all gone, so many people all gone..." Nell mumbles to herself listlessly over the intercom.
"That's less tempermental?"
"She's usually better, it must be the shock of the Bifrost and everyone on it being destroyed. We should probably search for escape pods and survivors."
"Right."

In a few minutes you meet back up with Hovis, Calvin and the Musai, all appear essentially undamaged. Hovis reports that he basically tore one of the Chivvays in two, whilst the other one fled out of the battlezone. They didn't want to overextend themselves and pursue however.

The MSN-01 is dragged back to the hangar bay, whilst you pick up escape pods. In the end it looks like about 60 people survived.
From a crew of about 300.
"Don't beat yourself up about it David, there was nothing more we could have done."
"They said you couldn't take out 4 pegasus class ships in 10 minutes, but we did. Then we still lost thanks again, to Gihren. If I ever find him, I'm going to blow his head clean off with a Bazooka."
"Get in line."

TO BE CONTINUED

omake?

>>12468825
Omake! Omake! Omake!
Zeon Quest Theater!

>>12468825
>I'm going to blow his head clean off with a Bazooka.

I see what you did there.

I'm kind of disappointed that we didn't get to talk about the Zakraider this time around. Hopefully we can bring it up next week.

>>12468825
Before you leave for the night apologised I wonder if you could answer something.
Should I bother to continue trying to design new fighters for ZQ? Because if it's a case of "official Gundam stuff only" it would be helpful to know that.

>>12468825
Man, Nell is really messed up. Hopefully if she survives the war, she'll get a nice place to live. Also, omake please?

>>12468825
Now we definitely can't nab 'er for our squad. She's damaged enough as-is. God only knows what would happen if she joined our outfit. Unless she's some kinda technical wiz or something. Those are always useful.

Figures as soon as I get back it ends, oh well.

>>12468920
Hey, at least you know for next week.

>>12468901
Welcome to Newtype warfare. Flanagan is a summer getaway compared to what Augusta and Murasame will be like.

And they're a week off compared to VESPA.

>>12468918

I've been nursing this evil plan of having Hamburger take care of her.

Then when the Cyclops Team ask for some help in their mission, we send both.

Romantic Hijinks ensure at Side 6.

>>12468931
Yeah. One the other hand, crazy is hot. So there's that. I'm just hoping that she won't get integrated into an EXAM system. That would suck.

Gihren Zabi's death will be followed by a time of great mourning. Not because he is dead, but because there wasn't enough of him for everyone to get a turn.

>>12468970
Is the Giundam universe, is there any cloning research?

>>12468975
Poor Puru. Every last one of them...

>>12468970
>>12468975
Clone him & rent them out. Save the original for special occasions.

>>12468970
When we do kill Gihren, it needs to be remembered as Gihren Night, for when every year we burn his effigy along with setting off fireworks.
If the scheduling works out, let's do it on the 5th of November.

>>12468840
>>12468851

-OMAKE-

Von Braun Municipal Library Records UC-0088
Title: Giants shall fall - Tactical Doctrines regarding combat against Mobile Armours.
ISDN: 78363584830
Author: David Lister
Catagory: Non-Fiction, War
Code: G-105
Borrowing history
1# K.Bidan (03.0087)
2# Ashta.J (05.0088) (overdue. current fine: $22.75)

-OMAKE 2-

Dear father
I hope this letter finds you well, certainly, I hope it finds under better circumstances than the last time I used these particular couriers to deliver my mail!
The matter I wish to talk to you about however is a serious one. Gihren's continued meddling within the war effort for his own ends is detrimental to all spacenoid life, and more directly weakens our position on the bargaining table when the time to sue for peace comes. The longer we let the war drag on, the worse it will become. We must sue for peace sooner rather than later, even now they are marshalling their forces in the aftermath of their taking of Odessa. If the forces arrayed against us at Odessa ever manage to get into orbit, it will fundamentally shift the balance of power in their favour, at that point, any hope of a benificial settlement will dissappear.
I cannot guarantee that I will be able to take Jaburo before this time. Or if that will even change matters. I believe that in the aftermath of our earlier attack, much of the HQ functions have now been transferred to Dublin.
Even a ceasefire that would allow us to put this broken house of ours in order would be enough.

The bottom line father is this, we CANNOT beat the Federation and Gihren at the same time. Gihren knows this, and he uses these facts to his advantage.
We MUST bring the Federation to the negotiating table as soon as possible.

Yours sincerely

Garma Zabi

PS: Icelina says thank you for the flowers, they were very nice.
PPS: Tell Dozle if you see him that I received his photo's of young Minerva. Tell him I will have them framed, and that he really must come visit us at California at some time.

THE ONLY CYBER NEWTYPE THAT WASN'T COMPLETELY CRAZY WAS GYUNEI

Also any zeon fighter would have to compete against FLY MANTA WORKS and the core booster, and let me tell you, the core booster is a fucking rape train

>>12468995
Exactly.

>>12468986
I take it that's a yes?

>>12469017
Those names are significant, aren't they?

>>12468998
We must also write 'GIHREN SUCKS' in FUCK-HUGE letters on the moon/asteroids. Preferably with a fuck-huge laser. We can let people who pay a modest fee to doodle or whatever on asteroid too. FUN FOR THE WHOLE FAMILY.

A shame about the lack of omake. Oh well. See you lot next week.

>>12468897
I might use the design at some point, I suppose. Or something similar.

>>12469017
Oh you, Judau.

Honestly, he probably absconded with it to Jupiter. Grey Stoke will continue to make our tactics known for the rest of the Universal Century.

>>12469045
>Preferably with a fuck-huge laser.

Gihren: A fuckhuge laser you say? Hmmm.... That gives me an idea....

>>12469052
Pretty sure in one of the mangas he comes back during f91/crossbone and beats up vanguard units with a patched together double zeta

>>12469038
>Those names are significant, aren't they?
Aye, laddy.

>>12469045
>A shame about the lack of omake
My foot & mouth are now thoroughly acquainted.

>>12469059
Did Gihren ever use the colony laser in the anime? I haven't seen it.

>>commusey seeming

Eerie.

>>12469068
Two, actually, in Skull Heart and V Gundam Sidestory. In the second the Gump jettisons its head armor and actually uses the High Mega Cannon once again.

>>12469080
Could you provide elaboration? I have very limited Gundam knowledge.

>>12469083

Oh yes he did. To kill Degwin and Revil.

Incidentally, If we get control of it, we could use it to blast a hole in feddie HQ and get them to come to the negotiating table.

>>12469049
Well that's good, I was worried we'd be locked into just what Zeon made in the war which we're moving well beyond now.
I dont care if those particular designs are used honestly, it's just that I'm the only one working on new ones at the moment. Given the time remaining in the war it would be difficult to get new fighters into production now even with UMP compatability.

>>12469100

Kamille Bidan and Judau Ashta are the protagonists of Gundam Zeta and Gundam Double Zeta respectively. Also two of the most absurdly strong newtypes ever.

>>12469105
Not really, since it's stationed outside lunar orbit, and Jaburo is in South America. Nothing has that range, and moving it would be impossible considering Luna II is overflowing with battleships.

>>12469100
>http://gundam.wikia.com/wiki/Kamille_Bidan
>http://gundam.wikia.com/wiki/Judau_Ashta
Here. I can't summarize for shit.
>>12469059
Well...damn.

>>12469129
Ahhhh. Thanks!

>>12469142
Thank you!

>>12469100
Bidan turns Anaheim Electronics' failed Gamma project into the Zeta Gundam, is taught piloting skills by Char Aznable, and is a powerful enough newtype to summon the ghosts of dead people to immobilize a mobile suit. He's one of the ace pilots of the AEUG terrorist group.
Ashta is a powerful newtype who is famous for being a crossdresser and being the only newtype who gets a good end. He joins AEUG after all their previous aces either die, disappear, or get brainraped.

...to think what we could have achieved without the civil war...

...if we had worked at keeping the family together instead of antagonising Ghiren...

Just think.

>>12469361
Realistically, it would have happened eventually. Gihren is too power-hungry and ambitious. It would have happened regardless.
The only thing we could have done is assassinate Gihren and either make it look like the Federation did it, or that it was an accident.

>>12469361
Gihren would have driven Zeon into the ground if we hadn't rescued Degwin from his clutches. The man poisons Zeon Zum Deikun and then his own father. Gihren's very existence is a liability to Spacenoid independence!

>>12469361
Riight...while we're thinking about such preposterous and fantastical scenarios, why not include what if we actually killed Amuro and the White Base, or if the Jupiter Fleet allied with Zeon, or we told Char to stuff it and kept him from interfering in our fights with Amuro with no plot armor.

>>12469400
and that takes a lot of work, considering that Zeon is in SPACE.

September 10th, 0079
Jaburo Nothern Defense Security Monitoring Center

Two bored looking Federation officers carried on a conversation while watching over their seemingly unchanging monitors.
"So then I said 'why dont you just put Mobile Suit arms on a ship and use that instead.'"

"That actually doesnt sound like a half bad idea. I mean look at that Gunta-."
The Federal officer was interrupted by alarms on his computer going off.

"Sonar is going nuts in sector twelve. Looks like impacts of some kind."
"I'll bounce a radio signal off to some of the ECM planes, see if they're picking up zeon activity."

"There was one big impact followed by a whole bunch of little ones."

"What the hell? Radio's no good in sector twelve, it's blanketed in Minovsky particles!"

"It's got to be a Zeon attack! Put the base on alert. Oh shit! Sector twenty just registered impacts!"

"Calling it in. This is Jaburo North monitoring center calling central HQ, we are under attack by unknown enemy forces. We're suffering large seismic events followed by Minovsky disruption on the surface. Please advise."

"Sector Seven now. All rader in the Jaburo Nothern Defense grid is now incapacitated."

"Jaburo Central HQ please respond. Our early warning systems appear to be targeted by some sort of enemy bombardment."

September 10th, 0079 05:15 Local (Jaburo)

General Revil had learned many decades ago how to sleep light. So it was that when General Quarters was sounded it wasnt long before he was on his feet getting dressed. He was just donning his over shirt when one of his aids came for him.
"Sir they need you in the command center right away. We're under some sort of attack but nobody knows quite what."

The elevator arrived at it's destination with uncommon quickness. Revil seemed to be stepping off even before it had come to a complete stop.

"Report. What are we looking at?" he asked in his calm but slightly gruff demeanor

"Deffninitely a bombardment of some kind. It's not a kinetic strike from orbit but our orbital zone garrison forces are reporting seeing lights coming in from the north at great speed."

"Doyle, does intelligence have any leads?"

"We're running through the list of possibilities but we only have two that would seem to fit."
The Colonel called up images on one of the larger monitors.
"The first is the 'Apsalus' which we believe to be an atmospheric flight capable warship. We think this is an all gun ship as opposed to our new Pegasus class Assault Carriers. However our reports on it's development site are conflicting. Some say Central Asia into the Gobi, yet others say South East Asia somewhere."

"And the other one?"

"We recovered plans in August for a weapon that would launch fusion plasma filled Minovsky bubbles. It was supposed to be built somewhere in the Central Americas or Cuba. A signifigant number of our analysists believed this to be a ruse once we found evidence that vital equipment was never transferred from one of the supposed Apsalus sites."

"What makes you think it could be that now?"

"There was some Zeon HLV activity at the beginning of the month near Cuba. We also had some shipping manifests of a large number of anti aircraft guns suddenly being transferred. In combination with the seismic events we're experiencing, minovsky radiation and the limited visual cues it all seems to fit."

Revil stroked his beard. "The next time intelligence finds evidence of Zeon Superweapon construction perhaps you could give someone on my staff a heads up."

"Aye sir."
"How much danger does this thing pose to Jaburo right now?"

"Nothing has actually struck the base armour layer yet sir." Reported a Commodore from the fleet engineering detachment. "They appear to be bombarding a wide area."

"They must be trying to cripple our defenses and launch facilities. Gentlemen listen up. Begin moving production blocks to secure locations and prepare to launch all space-flight capable vessels into orbit. If our launch capability is damaged it could take us weeks to get more ships up to the zero gee front. In the meantime all fighters and bombers are to scramble. Load up our heaviest conventional ordinance, we have to kill that gun dead."

September 10th, 0079 05:39 Local (Jaburo)

Depp Rog heavy Bombers cleared the hanger entrances from the eastern areas of Jaburo, turning north as they climbed to altitude.
"This is Tin Man, all Grey Wing units form up at fifteen kay. Tripple Delta stack, Brooklyn takes top, Avro takes center and Charlie takes lower."

"Dead Eye copies."
"Rocky copies."

"Gold Wing lead to Tin Man."
"Go ahead Flanker."
"One of my boys blew their launch. Landing gear wells hadnt been shielded against M-Fog, and fried his instruments."

"...I copy, how much of a delay are we looking at?"

"We're going to be ten minutes behind you minimum. Get to the target, we'll follow on full burners."

"Roger. Tin Man to Grey Wing we may be the only heavies on this run. Watch your spacing."

+++
"We're running out of ammo sir." Chief Gerulf said over the vibrations from the most recent shot.

"Good I was getting worried we'd have to hold up this 'kick me' sign all day. Save the last flash-bang to signal Mauser's Unit. Have we heard anything from Jamaca yet?"

"Observers are in position but no sightings yet. Minovsky blow-in from Panama is reducing ground level visibility."

Wesell grimaced. "We'll they had better come soon or I might start getting tempted to launch a Mobile Suit reactor set for overload from this thing."

+++
Lt. Commander Mauser kept a light hand on the stick of his specially modified 2 seat Saberfish superiority fighter. He'd been roped into leading a squadron of the Federation built fighters captured or rebuilt by the Zeonic forces in North America. It was their job to infiltrate any Feddie air units headed north today and destroy their bombers. The exact reason for this had never been made clear to him but he knew that he'd been passed over for combat duty in the upcoming assault on Jaburo because of it. Given the choice of bailing out over the Caribbean Sea or a jungle crawling with Feddies he was starting to get the idea that maybe it wasnt such a bad thing.

"Contacts topside." Reported the radio and electronics officer sitting in the seat behind him.
Punching up the laser com Mauser signaled the rest of the unit. "Everyone you know the drill. Keep chatter to a minimum and save missiles for priority targets only."

"You heard the man. Activate IFF."

As one all twelve fighters lit up their transponders, broadcasting their position and bearing to any other Federal aircraft in range. "I sure hope this Feddie IFF is worth the price we payed."

The squadron of red FF-S3 Saberfish came up off the deck and cleared the low level Minovski interference that hung in the lower atmosphere.

"Jesus." whispered Mauser as the Federation air units came into view. There had to have been hundreds of planes if not thousands.
"We have been pinged by enemy Radar." Reported the backseat REO.

+++

"FF-4 and FF-6 squadrons have completed refuling operations, we are clear to target. Flatmouse units are reporting no enemy top cover." reported one of the coordinations officers from the backseat of the Depp Rog.
"Sir we have a squadron out of position. I dont think they launched from Jaburo with us."

The pilot -callsign Tin Man- swore. "Hurry up and find out who they are before we enter Minovski scattering range."

"Aye sir." The unit coordinations officer took a minute to contact via some of the other bomber and interceptor groups before atlast getting a lasercom through the network to the new arrivals.

"They say they're with the Colombian Air Militia. IFF is a match but they dont have some of the updated security ratings we recently sent to Bogota."

"Damn Colombians never update their front line units. Stick them near the perimiter somewhere."

"Roger."

Far ahead a pair of the Flatmouse recon aircraft pulled up in a tight arc and swung back toward the air wing.

"Recon Twelve reports edge of Minovski zone at 100km and closing."

"All units this is Tin Man. Fog line is at one hundred. Cod's and Toriares are to cut across their axis and try and draw ground fire. Don Escargot units deal with any Triple-A on site. All Saberfish are to hold at medium altitude and prepare to run intercept."

A flurry of 'rogers' and 'copies' followed from the commanders of the other air squadrons.

"Fog line at twenty!"
"Copy. Tin Man to all Depp Rog's you are clear to begin your run. God speed."

The radio filled with static as they entered Minovski particle scattering range of Zeon held Cuba.
The pilot 'Tin man' nodded to his co-pilot and the two men increased throttle and pulled the nose up on their Depp Rog heavy Bomber.

"They've got atleast two emitters on the island looks like, perhaps three. One is deffinitely mobile and moving east, away from the target zone."

Up ahead a bright flash streaked out from the target area, passing some two kilometers above the bomber group.

"What the hell was that!?" Screamed the flight engineer.
"That's our target boys. Looks like the Zeeks are throwing a party for us."

+++
"That's our cue." shouted Mauser over the unit laser-com. "Everybody on the roof!"

The dozen red FF-S3 Saberfish lit off their rocket engines and pointed their noses skyward.
Mauser was slammed into his seat by high gravity as his fighter rocketed upward on blue flames. They'ed been sure to time this attack so that it would go off after the Feddies entered Minovski range. Federation planes towards the rear of the formation might be able to see them but they wouldnt be able to radio to the lead aircraft. Laser com would be more difficult now with space between each squadron increasing as they prepared for their seperate missions.

"Height is thirty thousand!" Called out the REO as they passed beyond the altitude the air breathing jet engines could assist. Mauser rolled the plane using thrusters and leveled out at thirty five thousand meters. The rest of the squadron soon formed up with little trouble, most of them used to manuvering vehicles in micro gravity.

"Depp Rogs are at Twenty One thousand! Begin descent!"

With minimum thrust the Zeon pilots nudged their planes onto a course that would drop them right behind the Federation Heavy bombers. Before long the altimeter began to scroll down rapidly and drag started to pull at the fighter.

"Thirty thousand."

Vibration began to run through the Saberfish from air friction. Speed above ground was likely closer to mach 4 than 3 at the moment.

"Twenty five thousand!"
"Engine start!"

Each Zeon pilot launched a pair of heat-seeking missiles at their target heavy Bombers. All of the fighters were past their targets before they could begin their roll and pull up. All around them explosions lit up the sky filling the air with burning debris. Bombers toward the rear of the group either had to pull up and risk a flame out or go around. To the Federal pilots' credit there was only one mid air collision, causing both craft to jetison their stores as they attempted to break off and regain control.
The bombers toward the front of the group soon found a dozen red fighters pelting their undersides with machinegun fire. One of Mauser's pilots was too close to his target on a strafing run and caught a stray bomb as the Depp Rog started to jettison its ordinance to lose weight.

"Red Three is down! No chute!"

Mauser ignored the report. Nothing he could do for a dead man. Tighting his turns he tried for deflection shots that wouldnt bring him into line with any dropped bombs. Without any nearby fighter escort the big bombers were as helpless as whales against Japanese Science ships. Still, those bombers that hadnt been hit refused to break formation.

After ripping a bomber in half with another pair of missiles Mauser and his wingman swung around to hit the four bombers still at the head of the squadron. Although still in formation they were now descendng and picking up speed. Even as he launched the last two missiles from his underside engine pods the bombers began dumping fuel and lit their afterburners.

"SHIT!" He cursed, breaking off as he realised what was happening.

The air behind the four bombers burst into flame from the dump and burn causing the missiles to detonate early.

Before he could come around for another pass his REO shouted out.
"Bandits Eleven o'clock!"

Four Flatmouse recon planes streaked in at high speed from ahead of the bombers.

"Break! Break!" Mauser yelled at his wingman and both Zeon pilots wrenched their aircraft into a dive. Cannon fire filled the airspace they had just vacated immediately followed by the recon planes. Both Saberfish were rocked by the supersonic shockwaves from the passing Flatmouse flight.

"Mauser, they're carrying gunpods where the radar normally is!"

Up ahead the surviving Depp Rogs released their bombs.
Mauser shook his head.
"Screw the enemy planes, Mission is scrubbed! All units break off and evade!"

Coming about he took his plane into a barrel roll that would make it hard for any fast moving Flatmouse to follow.

"This is twelve, I've spotted a second bomber group of Depp Rog's coming in hot."

"Fucking hell!" yelled Mauser. The Feddie Bombers that had already gotten through had probably caused enough damage. If another whole group got through there might not be ANY Zeon survivors.
Down below were easily more than one hundred Federation Saberfish climbing to deal with them before the rest of the bombers arrived.

"Three flight target the new bomber group. The rest of us are running interferance."

All the rest of the Zeon pilots lit off their rocket engines burning the remaining fuel as they closed with the new bombers. Mauser held off until he saw the Flatmouse flight descend from on high angling to come in on the tails of the rest of his squadron. Just before they were in position he kicked in his own rockets and screamed up after them triggering off one missile apiece from his topside engine pods. Four of the heat seekers struck three of the planes causing the fourth plane to break off.

Up ahead three flight launched the last of their missiles in their head to head, the rest of the Zeon planes diving down below them to deal with the climbing Fed interceptors.

"Incoming!" Shouted his REO followed by. "Flares! Flares!"
Mauser ripple fired half of his flares and then jettisoned the rocket engine pods for good measure before killing his thrust. A second later what seemed like thousands of missiles filled the sky in every direction around him. All of the jettisoned engine pods exploded from impacts and other missiles exploded into clouds of flak. Any of the other planes from his squadron he could see simply evaporated under the massed missile barrage.

Mauser's plane didnt escape unharmed either. Shrapnel tore through the port rudder yanking the plane around hard enough that his vision greyed out in his left eye. Using the control thrusters Mauser was able to pull out of the flat spin before the damaged craft could tear itself apart. Looking up through the canopy he was able to see that the pilots of three flight had done their job before they died. Tens of Federation missiles that had followed them detonated near planes from their own bomber group.

Pointing his plane straight down at the ocean he throttled back up, firing his machine guns at any Feddie plane in his way. A passing flight of Saberfish that were idling around the subsiding cloud of missile spam were too good a target to pass up though. There was enough time to unload gunfire into the cockpits of two and the engines of the third before he was past.

The fourth Feddie turned and followed him down, guns blazing. Juking back and forth to evade the fire wasnt enough and the metalic sound of bullets striking jet's body were distinctly audible. Instrument displays lit up red along the left side and in a flash a spiderweb of cracks covered the canopy on that side too. Mauser glanced back first over his left then right shoulder and was looking straight at it when a missile shredded the right engine.

+++
"Feddie Medium Bombers coming in low and fast." reported the Terminus sensors tech

"They'll be aiming for our air defenses. Did we get any canister shot put together?" asked Wesell.
"Only two. I'm not sure we can traverse the gun low enough to hit any of the bombers."

"We dont have to hit them, just wait until they're close enough for the shockwave to knock them out of the air."
"If you say so sir."

"And start disconnecting the Doms. The battle's close enough that we dont need the extra power."

The sonar display lit up as Federation bombs started to rain down anywhere they believed AA guns to be located. Which was everywhere.
Then the heavy hits from high altitude started to land. Rather than exploding on contact or detonating above ground in an air burst, these ones penetrated deep underground. Their explosive force sent shockwaves rippling through the surrounding earth and the hastily constructed bunkers.

"Bunker busters!"

Woah...... is all this canon or I just missed it, or are you revealing a hidden talent for writing fanfics Arty?

A dozen impacts from the heavy bombs walked their way across the anti-air defense zone. The last three bombs coming dangerously close to striking the Trebuchet itself. Shaking inside the command center continued long after it should have ended. The groan of walls buckling and the scream of steel tearing filled the air of every room and hallway.

"Evacuate! Everyone out!"
"It sounds like the entire structure is compromised." mused Gerulf.
"I can hear that, let's go Chief!"
"I have to lock out the computers. Go sir!"

Wesell stared for a few second before realising there was nothing he could do to convince the other man. He ran. Although the shaking from the bunker busters had ended the carpet bombing from the Don Escargot's now threatened to collapse whatever was left.

Reaching the MS hanger Wesell made his way along the catwalks toward one of the sets of stairs. He knew he wasnt going to make it though. Bolts attaching the upper walkways to the walls ripped free of the concrete dropping a section close to the stairs.

"Shit." Looking around Pete spotted the cables hanging from the hanger cargo crane. Ripping off one of his shirt sleves he wrapped it around the cable so he wouldnt burn his hands on the way down. Before he could get his leg over the railing the walkway he was on gave out, plummeting twelve meters to the hanger floor.

Hanging on for dear life Wesell started to slide down the cable, his weight pulling him down faster than his grip could counter. He planted his feet on the crane hook once he had slid down far enough and halted his descent. From there it was a drop of about teen feet to the floor. Even rolling with the landing wasnt enough to keep from getting hurt, cracking an elbow against the hard floor.

"Damn full gravity."

>>12471495
I wrote all of this just after the first Jaburo Assault. I posted some of the stuff about the construction stages of the Trebuchet not long after. Took me about a month at the time to change everything to fit with how apologised used it in the quest. I wasnt happy with how this part was all written at the time so I didnt post it and worked on it over a couple more weeks.
Then I promptly forgot about it all.

"Come on sir!" Shouted one of his men from the open back hatch on an APC. It was hard to hear though over the sound of the three Dom's stepping out of their maintinence bays... or the renewed rumbling for that matter.

"Additional Heavy bombers!" crackled the Chief's voice over the failing intercom.

Injured or not Wesell heaved himself to his feet and sprinted. A shockwave rippled through the hanger and one of the heavy support beams began to collapse. The closest Dom swivvled and caught one of the falling beams but all of the weight behind it pushed the MS back into the opposite wall.
Wesell could hear the concrete giving way but didnt look, he just jumped through the back hatch even as debris began to ping off the APC's topside. What seemed like a sheet of debris landed on them after that with even more rubble blocking the hatch. Another of the heavy braces dropped directly onto the vehicle, crushing it's small turret and bowing the roof of the crew compartment. Interior lights blew out from the force of the blow showering everyone inside with broken glass dropping them all into darkness.

+++

"Sky One to Tin Man, Sky One to Tin Man; Minovsky scattering is letting up."

"Copy that, my boys are out of ordinance."
"Status of enemy facility?"
"Out of action. Damage looks critical."

"Roger Tin Man. You are ordered to form up all combat elements and return to Jaburo ASAP. Our ship docks are under attack by enemy ground forces."

"Well shit, like we didnt have enough problems." He muttered to his copilot while changing frequencies.
"Tin Man to all units we are code Omega Two. Repeat: Code OMEGA TWO. Form by wings, try to stick together."

Unladen by bombs or much of their ammunition the Federal planes were able to beat a hasty retreat, rushing home to save their headquarters.

Noob's first attempt

>>12471550
Ahhh, very nice! Maybe I should try my hand at writing......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkObnNQCMtM
Flame and debris littered the field, the broken hulks of Federation planes and the Zeon anti-aircraft guns intermingled. Acrid smoke choked out the sunlight turning the former construction site as dark as night in places. Sonic booms from the fleeing Federal planes echoed though the air accompanied by the occasional explosion on the ground from munitions cooking off.

Within a half hour the worst of the smoke started to clear, the fires having exhausted any readily available fuel. The cool breeze blowing in off of the Caribbean did the rest. In one of the destroyed AA bunkers life stirred. A section of broken concrete wobbled slightly before being pushed out of the way by the solder trapped underneath. He pushed his way out feet first, kicking smaller blocks of debris out of the way. Looking thoroughly disheveled, covered in a mix of blood and concrete dust the young man heaved himself to his feet.

"Hello? Can anyone hear me?" His voice echoed through the burnt wasteland.
"HELLO!" He shouted again.

The soldier, Frakes, sat and pulled his left boot off, shaking out the spare Dog tag he always kept there. Kissing it he held it up to the sky, still white with fading contrails.

+++
Mauser leaned back watching the sun set and light fade from the sky. Water parted around the head of the Acguy he was hitching a ride on top of, the occasional wave reaching high enough to soak him with spray. With no room for a passenger and little chance of rescue craft being sent into this area he and the MS pilot had agreed this was the best solution.

After he'd ejected the MS had popped up out of the water to kill some Federation fighters that were lining up for a strafing run on him. Between the Acguy's Mega particle cannon and other large caliber guns the Federation fighters never stood a chance. The cover fire hadn't done his REO any good though, the man had already dead from a chunk of shrapnel the size of his hand before he hit the water.

"What the hell was his name? Ewert?" Mauser couldnt remember. That should have bothered him more than it did but he'd seen too many people killed in this war. He knew he probably should have fallen apart back in Mastodon Batallion but it just didnt seem to happen.

"Fuck this air war, I'm transferring back to the Space Attack Force."

(Yes I wrote this before Mauser became captain of the OH. I was as surprised as anyone.)

>>12469027
>We MUST bring the Federation to the negotiating table as soon as possible.
Oh no...I just realized...this would set up the meeting between Revil and Degwin, just like in the canon timeline.

It was hours before search and recovery crews reached the site. Zaku Tanks and a heavily damaged Zaku II assisted a dozen other assorted vehicles that had helped build the base. Now they worked to tear it down and free any soldiers trapped in the rubble.

It was into the morning of the next day just before sunrise when they began to find survivors that hadnt escaped on their own. The mono-eye of one of the Dom's shifted back and forth after being uncovered, showing that the pilot was still alive and consious. Unfortunately the external sound pickups and loudspeaker were damaged making it hard to communicate. One of the techs eventually spraypainted 'dont move' onto the back of a roadsign and held it in front of the camera.

By 08:30 the Heavy MS was uncovered nearly down to it's waist allowing the pilot out. Lt. Sophie Fran appeared calm and collected despite having been trapped in a buried MS for several hours.
She saluted Lt. Sarn as he approached.
"There should be an APC full of base personel about four or five meters to the right of my Dom. The rest of my unit were already moving towards the bay exits."

"Thanks Lieutenant that gives us some places to look. Did you see the Commander in there by any chance?"
"I'm sorry sir, I was preocupied with the base collapsing around me."

"Right." Sarn looked confused for a second then shook his head. "Not used to having other officers call me sir."
"I'm still a Lieutenant Junior Grade so you do outrank me."

"I'll get used to it eventually. Dont worry about the rest of your MS team, we'll get them dug out."

A shadow crossed over the pair as a transport planes flew over. Sarn held up a hand to shield his eyes from the sun.
"Oh good, the spooks are here. Like I didnt have enough problems."

Everything else I've got is a jumbled mess of notes it seems.

The commander and the Doms are dug out and the surviving engineers are transferred to the Rio Grand defense line just as the Federation attack hits it. Mauser is Transferred to New York for reassignment. The Zeon positions in Cuba are largely abandoned except for some fiarly basic monitoring stations and a couple of older Zakus.

The local concrete workers use their newly gained expertise and equipment to help begin rebuilding the local infrastructure.

>>12471812
Is that bad? I was under the impression that having 2 leaders negotiate is good, since they have the authority to enact whatever agreements they come to, without having to constantly check with their leaders (as a normal diplomat would)

>>12472295
Think he means that's how Degwin and Revil die in MSG. They meet up to talk treaty and Girhen kills both at the same time with the Solar Ray.

>>12472830
....oh. That would suck. Let's make sure Ghiren is captured and lobotomized and ready to be handed over to the Feds as a bargaining ship before they negotiate then.

>>12472830
That also happened right smack in the middle of Operation Star One, and generally negotiating in a theatre of war is never a particularly smart idea. True, they didn't have much option at the time, but it'd be far better to arrange a meeting on neutral ground. Von Braun or Side 6, perhaps.

>>12473086
But this is Gihren we're talking about. I wouldn't be surprised (angry, yes. Surprised, no) if he smuggled a nuke into wherever the meeting was set to take place if it wasn't targetable by the Solar Ray.

>>12473145
It depends. If he does, then all the Legitimacy needs is a reasonably watertight spin on it to implicate him, even if he covers all his tracks. Do that and Gihren crucifies himself for us. Possibly at the cost of our monarch, Revil, and maybe other significant members of the top brass and royal family.

The longer he goes on, the worse his position becomes, so he'll probably eventually just focus on taking as much of the Earth Sphere with him. It's actions like those, and the complete absence of moderates like Revil that ultimately lead to the rise of the Titans and Neo-Zeon's zealous philosophies.

We need to resurrect Zeon Zum Daikun's beliefs.

>>12473250
Yes, but we need to try to keep Moderates alive, in both the Federation and Zeon.
I know that Garma wanted to send us to the North American theater as soon as we were ready, but I wonder if we should undertake a black op side-trip to Gihren's bedroom closet. Or under his bed.

>>12473284
There are far better and more experienced people than us for that. I'm not saying that it shouldn't be done, just that Incognito should go instead of us.

>>12473346
Aw, but then there won't be any Gihren left.
David wants to fist Gihren with his Zaku Kai's Gundam shield.

>>12473166
>implying the mods are all asleep

rolled 14682 = 14682

God dammit I missed it.

>>12473672
Next Saturday, likely at noon EST.

>>12473514
As much as I agree with you (which is a lot), if the cost of waiting to get into that situation is the deaths of more Zeonic soldiers then I'm against it. We should try to have him taken care of in the most expedient way, and if we wait for the opportunity to go for a gratuitous kill ourselves it might give him time to do more harm.

But if we can clone him, then sure, I'm all for killing his clone. And selling clones of him to be killed by other people.

NEITHER GUNDAM NOR GM NOR DROP OF SIDE CAN STAY THESE MESSENGERS ABOUT THEIR DUTY.

>>12473909
I agree that he should be taken care of in the most expedient manner, but it also needs to be done quickly. The longer Gihren has a faction, the more resources are pulled his way rather than being concentrated against the Federation. If Incognito could get him, that'd be great, but we haven't seen any moves made toward that goal.
We may need to take direct action ourselves.

I believe that we should at least look into the option of doing this ourselves, rather than trusting that it will get taken care of by others.

>>12474132
Yes, but what do you think will be quicker: sending an experienced spy and assassin to find his way into wherever Ghiren is staying and kill him and any guards, probably finishing the assignment within a few days, or us waiting to meet him in battle? I'm not suggesting a long-lasting spy mission where he goes under cover but a go-into-Ghiren's-hotel-and-kill-everyone-no-one-was-spared-not-even-the-children mission.

And of COURSE we haven't seen any sign that this kind of thing is being done; something like this would be kept secret, even from us! For all we know, Incognito was filling Ghiren with lead while we were helping NEll! Okay, it's not likely, but what I'm saying is that just because Garma hasn't said anything to us doesn't mean that someone a bit more aggressive like Kycillia hasn't already sent someone to take care of him, and I doubt that she'd send anyone less competent than Incognito.

If no one else can do it besides us, or the oppertunity for us to take him out ourselves presents itself, fine. But we were not trained for undercover work or assassinations, and if it comes down to getting someone(s) to go assassinate Ghiren, I'd rather have someone better at it than us doing it.

>>12474246
All very good points, but that should not prevent us from at least coming up with a workable plan in case the opportunity presents itself. And while there may already be several black ops assassination attempts on Gihren already, the fact of the matter is that he is still alive, and the assassins haven't killed him yet.

>>12474300
OR IS HE?

Now, call me crazy, but WHAT IF he's already been killed and they've managed to set up a false Ghiren who will now start to shift his faction's intentions in ways that hinder the Federation whilst staying out of the way of Legitimacy forces, thus letting us use his side as a shield and spear with which to stike and defend from the Federation while leaving our forces less exposed.

>>12474327
Wait wait wait...a Kagemusha plot combined with a Puppetmaster conspiracy?
While it would be an incredibly convoluted and effective strategy if it worked, the nuke going off over Odessa kind of works against that idea. Either that, or they were incredibly incompetent to allow that to happen.

>>12474359
True. But it's possible that they simply didn't know about the nuke. Alternately, it's been a couple of days since then, maybe they only finally got him just now. I mean, okay, the chances that this is/has happened are so low as to effectively be zero, but it would be pretty awesome if Apologized does this. I don't know, maybe we can suggest it to Garma.

Oh man, what happened to the two Pezun Dowdage we left at Odessa? Do you guys figure the Midnight Fenrir took them? Because that would be awesome.

Missed it today, sadly. :(

Anyway, just a few side notes:

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/12454018/ is the "Zeonquest is tomorrow, discuss" thread from Friday for Apologised to chew on for ideas if he wants.

Also, I don't care how Gihren is eliminated. I only care when he's eliminated. :)

And Nell, poor thing.

>>12479288
Well, we have some time before the Outer Heaven finishes repairs, and Garma has suggested that we go to Grenada to speak with his sister on what to do about Gihren.
After that, we could go down, smash the Federation side of the Rio Grande Line, and see if we can't finally put Jaburo out of commission.

>>12476297
It'll be nice if Midnight Fenrir got them, or that somebody was able to evacuate with them.
Otherwise I hope the reactors were spiked to overload and the I-field to go down when the Feds reached that point as a final going away present.

Was talking to my father who's as much of an armchair /k/ommando as myself. He suggested a counter intelligence op to make the Federation think Girhen had something of value in Africa as a way of tying up the Odessa forces. Since Africa has plenty of natural resources he suggested a Zeon equivilant to Luna Titanium: a diamond carbide material.
Now I dont know if the Federation would buy it or if they did if they'd see it as enough of a threat but I thought it was worth mentioning.

>>12484075
A fascinating plot. We could suggest it when we go to Grenada.
If we're going with a false flag operation like that, it might be good to stage some fake fights between Legitimacy and Loyalist forces where the information could be dropped.
Even better if we then make the Loyalists think that the Legitimacy really is developing some kind of new armor in Africa, so that they send THEIR forces in too, and the Federation and Loyalists forces can fight each other while we stage another attack Jaburo.

Actually, since Africa does have lots of natural resources, what about setting up a second Odessa in Africa?
And then have it leak out of a research facility down there of a new material being developed and some preliminary reports showing that it's almost equivalent to Luna Titanium but only 3/4 the cost, and then have the report gagged under top secret classification as soon as the Loyalists and Federation get wind of it.
If they don't believe it, we still get a second Odessa for resources.
If they do believe it, then the Loyalists and Federation will be spending resources on a wild goose chase, shooting at each other the whole way.

>>12484436
>>12484075

We should do an elaborate, Operation Mincemeat-style operation. Create a believable intelligence leak and make it look like we really don't want this information out.

This is the most advanced intelligence operation in WWII. Check it out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mincemeat

>>12488912
Holy fuck yes!
We need to include a transport with a sample of this material apparently under attack, and the defenders preferring to overload the reactors on their Zaku's rather than allow the sample to be captured.

>>12489216

Guys, this is Incognito's area of operations, not ours.

>>12489557
Just because it's Incognito's job, doesn't mean we can't make special requests. If they don't think it's workable, then we'll leave it at that.
But we should still come up how the plan could be executed; it's still only Apologised doing everything, not an entire Military Intelligence organization.

>Even better if we then make the Loyalists think that the Legitimacy really is developing some kind of new armor in Africa, so that they send THEIR forces in too, and the Federation and Loyalists forces can fight each other while we stage another attack Jaburo.

Uh, Girhen's loyalists already hold Africa that's the second reason for wanting the Feds to attack it: It's not ours.

>Actually, since Africa does have lots of natural resources, what about setting up a second Odessa in Africa?
Please see above, it wouldnt reall help us much as long as Girhen has it.

>>12492809
If the Loyalists have that much control over Africa, wouldn't it be more difficult to make the Federation believe such a story?

Kycilla and the Legitimacy could stage a mock battle close to Federation patrols, with a Legit force trying to get away from a Loyalist pursuit force. Have them wiped out, and maybe send an ace unit (preferably one experienced with special operations) to attempt 'recapture' of the documents which show that the Loyalists may have developed a new type of armor, equal to Lunar Titanium, in Africa.

A possible hiccup is in whether the Federation knows about the Zeon Civil War. If they don't, we would be better served by going with the way Operation Mincemeat was carried out. If they do, the fake battle scenario could be used (dependent on what Apologised finally decides).

>>12468995
Oh god. Zeonquest 2's april fools will be a Gihren quest, where you are an escaped clone of Gihren. Are you a bad enough dude to survive the universe wanting you dead?

>>12494157
Meh. If he is different enough that he doesn't share the original's thinking and wants, I'm sure that Garma and the others won't put him to death. Alternately, get plastic surgery.

>>12494157

You are now visualizing a Paranoia campaign where the party are clones of the Zabi family.