Is this a fantasy version of Rome, or just Rome rome

BACKGROUND DETAILS
WHO ARE WE
WHERE DID WE COME FROM
WHAT IS OUR FAVORITE FLAVOR OF JAM

>>12257901
Rome with dorfs and Lizardmen and shit.

Excellent. I have been waiting. How big is the empire we are apart of? What are our neighbours like in terms of size and culture/armies? Is our army literally the Roman army or does our army differ?

>>12257907
1. Commander Justinian
2. We used to be a soldier in the imperial army
that's all I know

three post infodump inbound. I'm gonna use this setting quite a bit so... yea. brace for impact.

The Degnarian Empire: One of the two great nations of man, formed of discipline, obediance and martial prowess. Led by the Emperor and his 6 Praetorians, each elected to their position by the Representative Senate. These 6 elects controll the daily workings of the Empires Armies, Foreign Affairs, Internal Security, Commerce, The Historical Archives, and Foreign Intelligence. Should the Emperors bloodline be struck down, the Praetorian named First by the Senate shall become the new Emperor, and his bloodline that of Royalty. These Preatorians are elected as is needed by the Senate, and they hold their position carrying out the Emperors commands and managing the Empire permanantly, or until the council determines that they are no longer fit to serve, or succeed the Emperors heritage should the unthinkable occur. It is rumored that before the defeat of the Immortals and their dread legions there was a 7th Praetorian, one who spoke the will of the gods to the Emperor, but the Archivists will neither confirm nor deny this.

The population consists mainly of humans, though there are large populations of Dwarves and Lacertans as well. The latter two still pay taxes for the crimes their ancestors commited against humanity many, many generations ago. Each village will send its best respected, most important being, be they dwarf, lacerta or human to their governing city each year to council their Lords (depending on the city size there may be two or many noble families ruling and vying for a seat on the Representative Senate) on their villages wants and needs, pay their villages taxes, and most importantly cast their villages vote to whichever family they beleive will best serve their villages interests on the Representative Senate. This is a tradition as old as the Empire, enforced by the third law passed by the first Emperor, and any who shun the tradition and break the law will see their family stripped of all rank, scattered to the distant corners of the empire and beyond, before the one who broke the law is finally executed.

What is the current tech level for weaponry? I remember you mentioning crossbows in the last thread.

In the first Age, the Age of the Imortals 4 of the 7 Great Dragons called the lands now controlled by the Empire their home. Galrauch, the Dragon of fire, Mortiat the Dragon of Earth, Ghezboran the Dragon of Ice, and Shintja, Mother of all Dragons. It is on the bones of the Old Bitch Herself that the Emperors Palace is built, his decrees issued from the mouth of the dead beast, and around that corps, the Capitol of Dragons Reach is built.

thats my summary of Degnar, the most powerful neighboring nation is the Uurlanthian Kingdom (think feudal europe with elves and catmen), the Dwemer Duchy is sandwiched on a peninsula in between the two, which are separated by a huge fertile valley which the two human nations often fight over. another war over the valley is brewing right now

>>12257969
Is the Dwemer Duchy similar to us in that they're Roman-esque or are they vastly different?

>>12257969
What about our personal history?

>>12257949
pre-black powder, high fantasy late feudal

Does the empire have smaller vassal nations/are there smaller nations nearby or is it only the two you mentioned?

>>12257982
vastly different, kinda like dwarven Switzerland... they had surface holdings but those got wasted in the First Age, they live in a massive underground city, and its a meritocracy.

>>12257990
At age 15 you volunteered to join the Emperors Legions, and were a member of the 351st Light Spearmen Battalion. At age 18 you were the captain of your unit. You caught the attention of Lord Cassius Deussel (one of the greatest commanders in the history of the Empire), and served as his Second, Squire, and surrogate son for the last five years of his life and service. Upon his death you were placed in the officers academy, and now, two years later you have graduated.

>>12258064
there are a number of Orc clans roaming the northern tundras, and some of the larger swamplands in the south, but no proper vassals.

>>12258095
Welp, I'm satisfied. You guys got any questions I didn't think of?

Is our army basically the Roman army or are there differences? Like are our armies more known for archery or something.

>>12258137
Basically the Roman Army, a bit scaled up, with race appropriate auxiliaries added.

>>12258135
>gonna take that as my cue to move on with the plot, if you have any more questions just ask.

As you breach the near side of the Training Battalions internment camp, a red-faced runner sprints up to you. "Commander Justinian..." he pants "the Lord Commanders forgot to give this to you" he says, holding out a steel key-hooop, heavy with keys, and a slightly crumpled piece of parchment. "These are the keys to your Maniples barracks compound, three keys for each hall, and one for the main gate. directions are on the parchment" he huffs out before saluting. You return the gesture and move through the camp. Most of the prisoners live alone in simple cloth tents, not particularly caring for the company of traitors, deserters and murderers, though they be the same. When you reach the other side of the camp, Sansa is easy to spot, her shoulder length black hair has been cleaned out... no doubt having defiled a fair amount of water in the cleansing. She is leaning against a guard tower in a simple tan tunic and leather pair of pants, with a truly ancient crimson sash tied around her waist, one of her sheathed longknives sinched up inside it. She seems to have replaced her bow, it is resting across her shoulder, and from it hangs a battered looking cloth 'sack', no doubt the tent she stayed in. Judging by the dark wetness gathering at the bottom of the sack her battle garb is inside, along with her exrta blade. She hears you coming and turns to face you, but says nothing as you are still more than a few feet off.

>what do?

If the Dwemer Duchy doesn't have massive steam-powered robots I'll be greatly disappointed.

>>12258295
I suck at dialogue so something along the lines of...
"I assume you are aware you've been pardoned after this battle. You're free to return to whatever life you had before or wish to make for yourself now. Unless, of course, you rather continue to serve under me."

>>12258295

offer the skin and tell her we want to have a nice chat over some good grog

>>12258295

Long hair? In the army? Cut that shit off right now, Soldier! That's a battlefield risk that we can't take, especially in close quarters!

>>12258338
No! Offer the skin only if she accepts, so we have similarities to what happened to us after the mock battle. Life is about things like that, heh.

>>12258333

This but add in something about money and steady employment with possibilities of land after a few years of good service.

>>12258372
Right. We totally have to get the whole army worshiping their commander like Russel Crowe did in Gladiator and real life too if I remember my history correctly.

"You wished to see me Commander?" she asks you, as soon as you are close enough for conversational tones.

"You fought well today." you reply blankly, not expecting her blunt manner.

"Well, what did you expect. It was either survive to be pardoned, or die for a crime I didn't commit" she replies matter of factly.

you motion for her to walk with you, and she follows, obviously not sure of what she should be doing "There are two things that should be a given in any camp of soldiers, food on the fire, and men diceing. I saw neither in this camp."

"Whats your point?" whe replies "Most men lost their money paying for their trial, and we are only fed what the Captain of the guard sees fit."

"I was simply thinking you may want a good glass of mead and a hot meal, I know of a good place to get that... and feel I owe you something for your part in my earning my new rank."

Sansa simply nods, looking at you, now that you have changed into your citizens garb before asking "You owe me a glass of mead... but not a drink from the tonic you have in that skin?" she asks pensively... clearly both curious and thirsty. Laughing you hand her the skin and lead the way to your favorite tavern.

>you guys are gonna have to roll for getting her to join your retinue. 1d100, low is good

rolled 93 = 93

Let's do this.

rolled 6 = 6

>>12258519
We can do this easy.

rolled 42 = 42

>>12258536
SHIT

Oh /tg/ dice roller. Thank you so much... We could of used her too.

>>12258539
PLEASE GO WITH THIS FOR THE LOVE OF THE DICE GODS AND NOT THIS>>12258536

Anyone saved that /tg/ dice pic?

>>12258536
>>12258539
>>12258541
>well, you guys used your "the dice gods hate /tg/ botch fast

Several hours later, you and Sansa are sitting at a table near the back of a tavern at the edge of the military district in Dragons Reach. Not a single mead glass sits on the table, but more than a few empty tumblers once full of various Dwarven whiskeys and brews make up the alcoholic carnage.

"No" Sansa says "Not a Barrel Vodka" dropping the now empty glass to the table. a smirk on her face.

"So..." you trail off, downing a glass of Imperial BeardBurboun... not that either "What do you intend to do now, a career military woman, out of the Legion?"

"Truly I have no idea" she replies, seeming to sober up quite a bit "I've been in the Legion near as long as you, with nothing to show of it... I suppose I'll sell my skills as a mercenary."

"Why not sell them to me?" you reply "I need to start building my retinue, and could use your skills. The pay is good and steady. Surgeons and barbers on hand to keep you alive and whole, a roof over your head, or at least a quality tent. And land somewhere when you decide to retire perhaps."

The Waitress leaves another tray of drinks, all of them dwarven. Sansa picks a glass at random, staring into it for a few minuites before tenatively responding "While you seem to forget that I am forever a plebian or a soldier now, never a citizen... the other perks of Imperial service are more than enough to make up for that. I accept your offer, Commander."

"Justinian, please. And I'm glad to hear that. Now lets get back to the pressing mystery at hand." you reply, selecting a glass of your own raising it in a silent toast before downing it. Damnit, still not the same brew.

>anythin else you want to ask sansa, or skip ahead to your briefing tomorrow morning?

>>12258675
How many people can we have in the retinue anyway? Or is there no set limit?

>>12258675
What was she charged with and what skills would she say she's best at?

Also, lore question since I've forgot - how did one become a citizen in Rome? Was it only by being born into it?

>>12258675

are you using a system or just freeballing it?
oh , and are all of the men that were under our command pardoned , or can we just take them with us? if so do it and have them all refreshed and back up to full stength

>>12258675
Oh yeah, one other thing I think we should do. Find Cassius and congratulate him on a tough fought battle. He seemed like he was a friend to a degree and we shouldn't put him down so much after taking his shield. We may of lost if Sansa hadn't of held the line.

>>12258697
generally 5 to 10, but older or more cowardly Commanders have more.

>>12258709
freeballin. Most of the men you previously commanded that would have been pardoned died. The others have yet to get that far. Those units are loaners for the test battles; you will pick your permanent units from a larger list when you go to your meeting tomorrow.

>>12258705
In Degnar you earn your citizenship (starship troopers style)

"its a long story... that I'd rather not get into when I'm in this good of a mood" a red-faced Sansa replies to your inquiries about her crimes. You could look it up in the archives, but from what she said of it that would not be the true story.

... why is the floor moving?

>>12258675
She said "a crime I didn't commit" earlier. Let's see if we can find out her history while she's drunk and in a good mood.

>>12258772

well , great we drank too much , now sansa will have to help us to our quarters (wink,wink)

>>12258772
It seems we are well and truely sloshed. Time to drunkenly sing bawdy tunes all the way to the barracks!

>>12258772
Hmm. More drunk than I thought. Guess we'll wait to find out the story behind her supposed crime. I think it's time we retire then. Escort Sansa to her new quarters now that she's apart of our retinue. We should make sure she's taken cared of before we hit the sack.

Well, we're slammed. Time to head back and crash before the meetings tomorrow.

>>12258817
>>12258811
>>12258808
You eventually stumble to your feet, something you think is coherent falls from your lips, and Sana gets up too, supporting each other you saunter to the counter and slap one of your larger coins on the bar in the way of payment. The barkeep moves to give you coins back, but you wave it off. Sansa blurts something out as your head lolls forward. When she jerks it up you realize you have her held in one arm and several bottles in the other.

You finally reach your new barracks complex a large X-V-III emblazoned on its armoured gate. after a few minutes of trying you find the key that opens the side door. after the treacherous passageway is negotiated and slanderous door re-sealed a smallish lacertan servant with a glowing orange pendant walks up to the two of you. Wrapping your cloak around Sansa again to shield her from the brisk autumn air, you follow your reptilian guide to the Officers Dormitories. You point to the room across the hall from yours, and feel more words tumble out of your mouth. Something similar repeats them from Sansa, and you flop down on your bed; asleep almost instantly.

You awaken to rude rays of midmorning light assaulting your eyes through an open window. you roll off of something hard... and find Two bottles of alcohol, their labels somehow missing, and a piece of parchment with some indecipherable hieroglyphs trying to pass off as common on it. Great.

You make your way to the dining hall, and find Sansa hunched over a glass filled with a thick red juice. "Good morning" you manage to croak out. Sansa simply points at the messenger box in response, groaning. You read the message on it, it seems you are to meet the Second Praetorian in his office in the palace at midday. It seems you have an hour to burn before you need to put on something formal and leave for the palace

>>12258971
Chat with Sansa. Try to make ourselves presentable. Maybe find something to cure our damned hangover.

>>12258971
Let's try to sober up as best we can. Don't want to arrive at our first meeting too hung-over. See if Cassius is around as well I suppose and see how things went for him.

>>12258971
How drunk was I last night?

>>12258971
Get some liquids in us for the hangover, bathe, shave, and get to our meeting early.

>>12259006
>>12258998
>>12258995
"At least as drunk as me... lightweight." You laugh at that one, considering that you have at least 50 pounds on her, that makes her a heivyweight, not you a lightweight... but you let it slide.

"What are you drinking?" you ask, going through the various juices and fruits lining the shelves.

"Juiced tomato, eggs, vinegar, milk and a pinch of what is either Uursan piss or some juice that I found. I adapted it from my fathers old cure for hangovers... since we're missing a few of his recommended ingredients." She gags and hacks after slamming the concoction. While you settle for an apple and a glass of milk, presumably from the cow you can hear lowing somewhere in the compound.

"Sounds delicious" you reply, crunching into the apple... not as loud as you were expecting, but...

"Dont you have a meeting to be to?" Sansa asks inquisitively, aping your choice of food after her hacking stops.

"I'd rather you hadent reminded me of that but..." you sigh in response "I'll be at the bathhouse, I should be back before nightfall, hopefully my command will arrive on the morrow."

As Sansa finishes her apple she rises as well, replying "I have armor to clean, and if you dont mind I'll take my months pay so that I can get a change of cloths from the market district." you nod your ascent before leaving for the bathhouse.

Several hours later you find yourself walking the Bleeding Causway towards the hollowed out tail of the massive set of dragon bones. The path is lined with great crimson banners, each with the sigil of a diferent emperor emblazoned on them, their age increasing until you reach the banner of the Great Slayer, Emperor Cornelius the First; and the entrance to the palace. The mighty doors swing open, the hall is wide enough for four fully armored Uursan to ride abreast.

About halfway up the tail you make a turn to your right, entering the holdings of the Second Preatorian. The man is waiting for you, his crimson robes trimmed in gold, not black today. "I'm glad you made it on time, commander Justinian" he greets you, dismissing your salute. "The Fifth informs me you had quite the night after you left us yesterday. But that is of no matter. Would you rather hear you mission first, or see the list of available battalions before I tell you your task?"

>>12259141
Mission first. That might determine what battalions we pick so it's best to have all the information we can first.

>>12259141
Mission

>>12259141
battalions first definitly , so we can then suit our troop choice to what we'll be doing

>>12259159

meant this , curse you brain

>>12259159
>>12259141
Mission first so we can choose an appropriate battalion.

>>122591
FUCKING GOD DAMNIT BRAIN STOP IT
MEANT THIS>>12259153

"Very well then, Commander." The Preatorian responds, sliding the overturned sheet of parchment back towards himself. "As I'm sure you know, magical items are becoming increasingly rare as the centuries march onwards, so those functioning items still held by the Empire are guarded closely. Unfortuanately one of our largest arcane items was stolen," The praetorian sighs at this "a Brazier of Eternal Flame... and its keystone. As I'm sure your aware, a well maintained Brazier can keep several Batalions of Lacertans at peak combat condition for weeks on end with proper rotations. The tracks indicate the headed northward. The rate at which nonhumans are leaving their Burroughs, along with those humans who dwell with them suggests we will soon have another rebellion over the Abhuman Taxes soon. This we cannot have, with war in the East looming so near. You are tasked with nipping this uprising in the bud, lest it bite our arses off when fighting TRULY starts in the East. Do you have any questions?"

>The filled in boxes are major cities, the one with the yellow spot is Dragons Reach. The open boxes are minor cities, the circles ouposts/forts. The brown tracks are Imperial Highways (squigly because 3500dpi mouse + GIMP is really good at picking up my mouses input... to good at it really)

Question here about the Lacertans. Physically are they stronger/faster than humans? What are the pros and cons of each race.

Also, to clarify is Sansa a Lacertans?

>>12259296
Who are the prime suspects for the Brazier's theft?
What can we expect to be facing in our mission? Where is our mission located?

>>12259296
Where are we on the map?

In terms of IC questions - How big is the brazier and thus how many people would likely be needed to steal it? Have any cities towards the north been giving any problems in terms of resentment to the taxes or had a previous history of that kind of behavior?

What kind of resistance are we expecint to meet in tracking down this item?

Was it a small group or are we heading to meet a small rebellious army or something...?

>>12259326
I was wondering about this as well.
Also, I think I will stop by in here since Dragon Quest is apparently not happening tonight.

I say we pick pretty much only aux units. Sure it might bite our asses later in that they might be less disciplined, but I think we could say we could be "naive" and optimistic since we are the heroes. Also, if we use mostly Aux troops, it will help us maintain a holding in the north because they will be more reluctant to rebel against their own brethren. So we need to keep their morale up as well.

>>12259358
Oh shi- It's you. You're allowed to roll in this quest. We like low dice rolls.

rolled 72 = 72

>>12259380
well, I could take that as a compliment I guess. Let's test this out.
Was a 1d100

rolled 25 = 25

>>12259390
Yeh, I think /tg/ dice have something against me or something, I dunno.......

>>12259358

Kinda iffy about that. If we could have at least one professional unit or something so we don't end up having a mutiny...

dice you say?

>>12259358
Let's see what's on the list before we decide on that but I'm also against taking only auxiliary units. Our professional units will be needed as a strong core I think and after our last battle where our auxiliary units ignored our commands, we want to avoid that. To be fair, that might of been due to them being convicts and all but I'm not sure about that.

>>12257873

As an avid Roman history lover OP, i can never like this.

A maniple = 2 Regiments made up of 3 Battalions?

Jeezus kraighst, a maniple is a tactical unit not a strategic one that can hold it's own like the cohort.

The fuck?

>>12259419

Exactly, some of them ignored our commands and they were forced there with the only alternative being death. It doesn't seem smart to have ONLY aux units under our command with no one to enforce order on those long trips...then again we could commissar it up?

>>12259326
>>12259334
>>12259338
Dragons reach. Lacertans 8 foot tall slab-o-meat Lizardflok, the strongest sentient race on the continent and tougher than humans but slow as hell and not very agile. Sansa is a human. We are in Dragons reach, the city with the yellow dot on the map. And the group would have to be sizable.

"Judging by the size of the footprints, it was likely a group of disgruntled Lacertans, and a few human and dwarven sympathizers. They were bearing roughly north-northwest, most likely headed to some Draconian Ruins built into the mountains between the arable lands and the northern tundra. Since Lacerta were made what they were by Dragons Magic... that seems logical... be warned that there has been a steady stream of disgruntled plebians and citizens, mostly lacerta mind you, leaving cities and villages for the past month now... though the Emperor only recently decided to act. You already have a unit of Dwarven Scouts in the field tracking this group... its large enough that you should be able to follow their trail until you meet up with the scouts. Anything else, or are you ready to choose your other five battalions?"

rolled 63 = 63

I agree, I don't think we should take ONLY, but mostly none the less. We need to probably get heavy cavalry and armored units as proffessional units.

Also, I picture us to look like this, maybe a wee bit younger though.

rolled 49 = 49

Alright, I'm going to go out on a limb then and assume that humans are average. If the lizard folk are the heavy hitters what are the dwarfs for? I mean besides drinking us under the table.

>>12259441
Has anyone looked into possible villages/cities helping out these individuals who are leaving? If a sizeable amount of them are hiding out in the wilderness or some ruins, they need resources to survive and they can only hunt for so long.

If we can narrow down an area, it would help our search.

Also, I assume by the fact it wasn't mentioned it means that there aren't any specific cities known to be sympathetic to the non-humans/had a history of uprisings?

>>12259467
Lizardmen=Offence
Dorfs=Defense

>>12259435
>I drew inspiration from roman history... mainly names, and I kept the order and simply put in fillers to reach the fluff sizes I was shooting for (narrative and such). I knew the historic sin I was commiting... and I apologize.

The Praetorian turns over the list "You will have a choice from these units, as you are my first meeting today the list is untouched. fresh units are denoted by a "G", reserve units being rectivated with a "Res", and units simply on a roatation with a "Rot"."

>list is big, I'll post it next

>>12259490
Not necessarily. Our legionary battalion in the previous battle was definitely defensive over the dorf warlords and our dwarven auxiliaries weren't lasting long against the berserkers until we flanked them from behind.

>>12259467
They are the anvil to the lizards hammer. You understand them being dwarfs and all that jaz, they happen to be too drunk and stubborn to run away.

rolled 77 = 77

>>12259441
I say we go ahead and get our battalions. Hopefully there will be better unit choices than the initial part.

Also, going ahead and getting my shitty rolls out of the way hopefully.

>>12259497
I say a good Legion shieldwall should serve better than dorfs. Humans can be stubborn too.

The mountain city to the west of the stem of the "T" the rang forms is mostly dorfs, as is the other major mountain city, and the two southernmost cities have large Lacertan populations

184th Legionary Rot
196th Legionary Rot
200 Legionary Res
454th Legionary G
455th Legionary G
456th Legionary G
95th Light Swords Rot
72nd Light Axes Rot
88th Light Spears Res
200th Light Swords Res
198th Light Axes G
300th Light Swords G
295th Bowmen Rot
578th Bowmen G
579th Bowmen G
580th Bowmen G
99th Hunters Res
124th Hunters Rot
150th Hunters G
98th Warlords Res
57th Warlords Res
65th Warlords Res
400th Light auxiliary Rot
437th Light Auxiliary G
438th Light Auxiliary G
439th Light Auxiliary G
28th Dwarven Scouts Res
50th Dwarven Scouts Rot
800th Berserkers Rot
809th Berserkers Rot
201st Lacertan Skirmishers Res
248th Lacertan Skirmishers Rot
176th Lacertan Stalkers Rot

rolled 56 = 56

>>12259497
I dunno, I don't see the lizards being the best hammers unless they're on chariots on something. I don't think we should typecast the races lest we get screwed over for thinking this is rock paper scissors.

>>12259496
Yes, but in general with the Lizardmen generally not wearing any armor and the dorfs favoring heavy armor the Dorfs are, as>>12259497 said the anvil to the Lizardmen's hammer.

>>12259496
Light infantry isn't really the kind of "hold the line" unit, the light dwarfs are supplement units to slow moving defensive formations or screens for skirmishers.

rolled 47 = 47

Sorry, I have to play the idiot and ask, but what does rot, res and g stand for?

Before we pick - can we get a little more info on what these units are good at:
- Bowmen vs hunters
- Lacertan Skirmishers

Well I think we need at least one battalion of archers if not two.

rolled 1 = 1

Could you give us a rundown on what each unit type is good at and for OP.

>>12259530
What are the Bowmen, Skirmishers, and Light Axes, Swords, Spears etc. Equipped with?

>>12259549
Rot=Rotation, meaning experienced unit presumably, G means fresh unit so inexperienced, Res means reserve
>>12259530
How many do we get to choose?

Until we find out what some of those units do, my current thoughts are we try to pick more of the reserve units rather than rotational of fresh. We're likely going to face an unprofessional army so we don't need to take our nations freshest or most experienced troops. For sure take a few units of either fresh or rotational units but maybe at least half reserves?

>>12259580
On that note, wouldn't it be better to get the units on rotation since they have...you know experience?

Hmm maybe I should get a tripe code.

>>12259580
3 per company
2 companies

>>12259530
150th hunters
176th lacertan stalkers
454th legionary
455th legionary
and 98th warlords should do

>>12259589
Reasonable enough...thought I'm still a bit iffy about the fresh units. However, we are technically fresh as well right?

>>12259600
Nah, just Namefag. Generally people won't steal your name. And if they do it's usually painfully obvious.

rolled 45 = 45

Also OP, I will be constantly rolling a 1d100, I have noko on because it is more convenient. sooo yeah.

>>12259580
I think your explanation hits it on the head and we pick 5 I believe.

>>12259609
Except we're picking up dorf scouts on the way. So, 5.

>>12259618
No ranged units? Stalkers are a good idea though. They almost fucked up our hunters...if we ambush with them correctly it'd be awesome

>>12259610

Kay, I guess I just need a name that isn't shit...

>>12259609

okay then , just add 124th hunters to this>>12259610

>>12259630
You sir are correct I forgot about our dorfen scouts

Rot is a unit on roatation, Res is a unit being brought up from reserves, G is a green/freshly trained unit.

"+'s" denote level of training base, 1 to 5 scale

Legionaire: +++++. Platemail. Tower Shield (hardened oak w/steal studs) 6.5 ft spear, longsword. Phalanx (200 head)

Light Infantry: +++. equipment varies. Harassment/faster attacks (150 or so head)

Archers: +, Cloth, Shortbows, volley fire, 300 head

Hunters: ++, Leathers, Longbows, Longknives. Stealth/tracking, forest superiority, 75 head

Dwarf Warlords: ++++, Platemail, Warhammers/Axes (twohanded) Shock infantry, 150 head

Dwarf Auxiliaries: +++, chainmail, handweapon w/shield as Human light infantry but beefier and slower

Dwarf Scouts: +++, Leathers, Crossbows, round shields w/axe or shortsword. Speed on open fields, finding shit, marksmen, 100 head

Lacertan Skirmishers: ++, cloth, Javelins, clubs. fast moving, harassment, 150 head

Lacertan Berserkers: +, twin handweapons or a greatweapon. Shock infantry (glass cannon) 100 head

Lacertan Stalkers: ++++, leathers, Throwing axes, shortswords. Ambushers, swamp superiority, not for prolonged engagements, 75 head

>>12259610
I say swap one of those legionarys for a Rot one, better to have an experienced legion to teach the newbies what's what. Otherwise, sounds good.

>>12259666

the scouts are'nt part of our maniple , are'nt they? the're just auxillaries
if so just go with this>>12259651

>>12259650

Disregard this, hunters are awesome

rolled 99 = 99

248th Lacertan Skirmishers Rot
This is most likely our screening force. Frontline/flank protectors. They are experienced so they know better than to charge when they don't need to and all that jazz.

196th Legionary Rot
454th Legionary G
Our bread and butter troops. Take an experienced with a newbie group so that the newbies can learn from the older group.
98th Warlords Res
437th Light Auxiliary G
I figure we use these two primarily as flankers. Since the Dwarves are reserves there will be less, but they will be at least slightly experienced. They would be the real firepower of our flanking force.

>>12259695
scouts are part of your maniple, as they are an Imperial unit, were they scouts, or a cavalry wing from a noble house they would be an extra... but those are contracts you need to make on your own

>>12259680
This is a good plan.

>>12259680
I with you on that.

I wish we had a topographical and geographic map so we could see what kind of terrain we're going to be heading into, and if there'll be swamps, forests, or any climactic conditions we should prepare for.

>>12259726
were they *mercenaries*... gah

>>12259671
Alright, lets take.
800th Berserkers
176th Stalkers
98th Warlords
295th Bowmen
and 454th Legionary

I'm thinking we take:
124th Hunters Rot
456th Legionary G
580th Bowmen G
88th Light Spears Res
400th Light auxiliary Rot

This way we have good trackers in the hunters and scouts we're meeting up with, have a unit of heavy infantry and some light units to base around the core which would be the heavy legionary unit. I figure we should focus more on speed units and not use Lacertan's due to the problem with regulating their heat.

>>12259717
Change that Light Auxiliary for a Lacertan Skirmisher unit? I'd rather not have an all-human force suppress a non-human rebellion, that would just breed further racism and resentment. Otherwise, sounds good.

>>12259717
I like this, but would it be possible to swap one of the flankers for hunters or something with range greater than a javelin? If we are hunting a lizard majority force could we outrange them and get more hits in with the longbows?

>>12259671
no cav?
anyway , methinks we should switch out our stalkers with the 50th dwarven scouts since we're not gonna be in any swamps in the forseeable future also this>>12259680

rolled 20 = 20

>>12259717
I take that back, get rid of the light infantry and get us some hunters. Didn't know they would be that bad ass. Probably some reserve hunters as well.....so


248th Lacertan Skirmishers Rot
This is most likely our screening force. Frontline/flank protectors. They are experienced so they know better than to charge when they don't need to and all that jazz.

196th Legionary Rot
454th Legionary G
Our bread and butter troops. Take an experienced with a newbie group so that the newbies can learn from the older group.

98th Warlords Res
99th Hunters Res
I figure we use these two primarily as flankers. Since the Dwarves are reserves there will be less, but they will be at least slightly experienced. They would be the real firepower of our flanking force. The hunters are for the nice mixing firepower in the force. Soften up whatever they are flanking and move fast than the dwarves to buy them time to get to the fight.

just a clarification, Auxiliary denote a nonhuman unit, I didnt add Dwarven to each one for fear of overfilling the text field

>>12259766
I shall second this noble sirs plan.

>>12259766
Switch one of those for Berserkers and we got a deal.

I'm really not sure how to choose the five units...here's what I came up with.

Legionaire
Warlords
Warlords
Skirmishers
Hunters

Legionaires being the core of our army and warlords going for flanks I guess. Skirmishers could hang back with the hunters and act as our reserves I suppose and hunters just shoot...things.

>>12259766
My only problem with this is we're focusing on too many heavy units. We're not fighting another professional army here and this seems like overkill for something like that. I think we should take more light units, especially if we're going to have to trek through the mountains to find these guys.

rolled 18 = 18

>>12259755
>>12259753
There are Dwarves and Lacertans in that list, also, yeah, hunters sound to be freaking awesome.

How are we going to supply our army while we're on the go?

>>12259761
cavalry are rased and fielded by the noble houses, if you want some cav you'll need to negotiate a contract for a unit.
>hint, your young for a commander, dont expect much luck from well established/well off noble houses, you'll be considered to risky for the investment

>>12259766
Additionally, I am against bringing the Lacertan's with us because of their coldbloodedness. Not sure what the climate might be like, but it could be pretty brutal in the mountains and we don't have the brazier to keep them alright.

>>12259766

take out them skirmishers , son
there could be rebel sympathizers in there , and we dont want our troops turning on us during a battle , so i vote to change them to 50th dwarven scouts.other than that i agree

rolled 44 = 44

>>12259801
I'd be okay with switching the
98th Warlords Res
for
28th Dwarven Scouts Res
since we picked up a hunters group instead. This makes our flanking force much faster and more efficient in softening whatever they flank with the range capabilities. I assume dwarf scouts use the throwing axes OP?

>>12259824
They're actually warm-blooded. So, it's all good.

>>12259811
A very good point!
Is there going to be a supply line that we'll have to worry about?
Are we going to try to carry all of our supplies ourselves?
What about resupply depots and fortresses where we can resupply?

Logistics is just as important as tactics and strategy, and one of the primary skills of the Roman Legions.

>>12259786
I'm really against the berserkers, I mean we saw them tear apart our light dorfs but were in turn shredded. Glass cannon's are all fine and dandy...if your only doing a single engagement. this is likely to be a long drawn out fight, and the berserkers will crumble fast.

Arcani, maybe

>>12259834
Crossbows. And we're picking a unit of them up on the way.

>>12259766
This is actually a pretty solid list.

I'm just concerned that there are no cavalry on the list. I like that we have the Warlords for flanking, but will they be able to get in position fast enough? I assume the hunters will be able to, but Dwarves are short and heavily armored.

>>12259839

True, this point hits home even harder considering that we only have 5 battlions. Losing 20% of our forces or writing them off as throwaways isn't really a good thing...

>>12259834
they may have some, but they are equiped with marksmens crossbows and racheting loaders
>>12259837
cold-blooded, thats why its so bad that they made off with a brazier. Its damn cold in the mountains, that blue area north of the mountains is frozen, blasted tundra, only the hardiest of Orc clans live up there

>>12259834
Dorf scouts use crossbows. Replace the skirmishers with 88th Light Spears Res and the warlords with the 580th Bowmen G and I'll agree. I don't forsee the enemy being heavily armoured and archery will be a nice bonus in mountain terrain. And as I mentioned, the lacterans will be bad for their coldblooded problems in keeping them warm.

>>12259766
Now that I know hunters have longbows I approve of this list as well...this is assuming that our battalions are easy to maintain even with heavy armour and what what not.

>>12259839
Yeah, I suppose you have a point. I really just like the mental image of a bunch of huge, crazy-ass Lizardmen crashing into the enemy flank.

>>12259863
He has a point I vote we implement his changes.

>>12259766
>>12259860

In light of that why not replace skirmishers with light infantry?

>>12259852
CAVALRY IS ATTAINED ON CONTRACT FROM NOBLE HOUSES, TALK TO SOME NOBLES IF YOU WANT CAVALRY sorry, repetition can get irksome, so I made the post big and noticeable.

>>12259838
you will have a corps of bowyers, surgeos, smiths ect attatched to your unit, and will be able to resupply at each city you pass. You have the power to requisition additional supplies if you feel you may be away from civiliazation for a while

Are these going to be our forces forever? If so we need a balanced lineup rather than just what we need for this mission.

>>12259881
because RANGE RANGE RANGE

>>12259904
Which is why I think we should add bowmen instead of skirmishers. Bows = greater range than javelins.

>>12259863
I do not in any way support dropping the Warlords. And as was said, that would be an entirely human unit which is bad press.

rolled 1 = 1

To be honest guys. The reason I wanted a well balanced force is because I think we will probably have to stick with the units we are choosing for quite some time. So the more efficient they work together the better.

248th Lacertan Skirmishers Rot
This is most likely our screening force. Frontline/flank protectors. They are experienced so they know better than to charge when they don't need to and all that jazz. Most likely used to aid our flank, or to run up and harass infantry lines marching.

196th Legionary Rot
454th Legionary G
Our bread and butter troops. Take an experienced with a newbie group so that the newbies can learn from the older group.

28th Dwarven Scouts Res
99th Hunters Res
The Dwarven scouts will move up quickly, fire volley after volley into idling or mobile troops. They will also be covered by hunters that have their own bows and arrows and are well equipped for melee. I'll be damned when a dwarf can't hold his own in melee combat when range is out of the question afterwards.

Otherwise, we still need a good mixed force that can hold it's own in all situations. Romans prided themselves on being able to handle almost any strategic and tactical problem that presented itself.

>>12259898
until a unit is obliterated, or you request to roatate one out due to disagreements with its captain, or its severely understrength, yeah. This is what your gonna have for at LEAST the duration of this campaign... and a good chunk of this into your next one as well.

>>12259920
We're meeting up with the scouts, meaning there will be dwarves there. Alright, if you're that worried about that, take 438th Light Auxiliary G instead of the light spears I suggested. Warlords shouldn't be necessary in this since we'll have 2 legionary units and it'll only slow us down more.

>>12259915
Yes, but we can't screen with bowmen because they'll get eaten alive by fast charging units. We have hunters and skirmishers so that's probably enough ranged firepower, especially with our huge shielded and heavily armored main force of leigons and warlords.

>>12259915
we're going to be fighting in the mountians so our legionnairies wont be able to get into a proper phalanx
i vote we switch out our phalanxs with dwarf auxilaries so we can have easier time fighting in mountian terrain

>>12259929
Since we're picking up a unit of scouts on the way I suggest we replace those scouts with a Warlord unit. Other than that you have my full support.

>>12259929
This is good, but I'm afraid that without the Warlords we'll lose that decisive shock. If we can rout them with a warlord flank charge we'll lose less troops overall than grinding them down with leigons.

>>12259936
In that case, I vote for
>>12259929
This seems like a good force,

>>12259929
Drop the skirmishers. We'll have 4 ranged units if you keep them and I still maintain it will be HELL keeping them combat worthy in the mountains.

>>12259973
I agree except for the lizards, we are marching into cold territory her,e and they have a nice constant fire to keep them warm we do not. I say replace them with a Light Auxiliary and have our hunters act as our screening troops.

>>12259998
This guy again. >>12259968 has a very good point and the warlords will be able to bring a standstill grind to an end quickly.

rolled 41 = 41

>>12259929
I'm getting a consensus that most people want the warlords actually still.
>>12259969
>>12259968
>>12259943
>>12259920
and me of course wanting them in the beggining


248th Lacertan Skirmishers Rot
This is most likely our screening force. Frontline/flank protectors. They are experienced so they know better than to charge when they don't need to and all that jazz. Most likely used to aid our flank, or to run up and harass infantry lines marching.

196th Legionary Rot
454th Legionary G
Our bread and butter troops. Take an experienced with a newbie group so that the newbies can learn from the older group.

98th Warlords Res
99th Hunters Res
Again, Warlords for shock heavy infantry with the hunters. The hunters can soften whatever the Warlords charge into and can also hold their own in melee.

Since we have a Dwarf Scout unit joining us I consider them to be reserves and they would most likely be our main phalanx supporters with ranged. Softening charges and the like.

>>12259998
One thing to keep in mind is that we will be stuck with these units for a while and while the lizards might not shines this round the next time we might be in a warmer climate. However, if we get to add more units after this campaign then...yeah drop the skirmishers.

>>12260017
I'm Commander Shepard and this is my favorite force in the thread.

Screening and Ranged:
28th Dwarven Scouts Res
99th Hunters Res
+Dwarven Scouts enroute

Main Battle Line:
196th Legionary Rot
454th Legionary G

Flanking/Shock Troops:
98th Warlords Res

Remember, we get some Dwarven Scouts enroute and this army has to last us through many situations.

>>12260017
If you replaced the skirmishers with a light unit and made the hunters the rotational unit, I would support this plan just to move on at this point since it seems like we won't get a full consensus. I think the light unit could serve as a screening force and I rather have experienced hunters since they can infiltrate as well.

And finally, I will once again repeat I am against Lacterans in the mountains. Cold lizards are not very keen on fighting.

>>12260017
this seems to be the consensus list, so your choice would be:
248th Lacertan Skirmishers Rot
196th Legionary Rot
454th Legionary G
98th Warlords Res
99th Hunters Res

and:
65th Dwarven Scouts (meet in field)

is that what you guys are leaning towards?
>note: it WILL be a bitch to keep Lacerta at combat temperatures in the mountains.
Note: if you want cavalry start looking into noble houses to talk to, you have a day or two before you are expected to leave

rolled 71 = 71

We need to make an exception for the Skirmishers. We need SOME Lacerterns or bad press will ensue. We will make the appropriate arrangements for them to be cared for. They aren't just ranged units either. They are more like......well skirmishers....think hunters but stronger, faster, and bigger. Not as smart though.

>>12260017

WE ARE FIGHTING IN THE MOUNTIANS

PHALANXES CANT BE FORMED IN MOUNTIANOUS TERRIAN

SO WE NEED NEW MELEE INF. THANT WONT GET TOO TIRED WALKING AT AN INCLINE ALL THE TIME( LIKE WARLORDS) OR WONT FREEZE TO DEATH (LIKE LACERTANS)
SO GET DWARVEN AUXILARIES AND DROP THOSE SKIRMISHERS FOR MORE HUNTERS

>>12260038
True, but we want some lizards with us for propaganda. Remember we're fighting mostly nonhuman rebels, if we have a mixed force ourselves it'll look less like those asshole humans being racists.

I say talk to some noble houses but don't worry about cavalry for this campaign. Let's get an idea on who would be interested in sponsoring us for cavalry and then let them decide based on this current campaign. They'll likely be more trouble than they're worth in the mountains I think.

>>12260049
Agreed but replace 248th Lacertan Skirmishers Rot with 400th Light auxiliary Rot.

>>12260049
When OP makes a note of it I think it's a sign. Swap skirmishers for light infantry?

>>12260049
Alright, replace the skirmishers with dorfen Light Aux and let's go

>>12260049
Rather than cavalry, are there any trackers or experienced rangers that we could hire for the duration of this mission? Also, when we enter the operational area, I want funds set aside for the hiring of local guides and lookouts.

>>12260060
Chill dude, they are not just phalanx troops. They are also entirely capable of normal combat without the spear wall. That's why they are our mainline, they are good in every situation.

I agree with dropping the lizards though. I'd say a dwarf scouts or human hunters instead.

>>12260068
And let's do this. It wouldn't hurt to talk to them.

>>12260079
Our hunters and scouts will preform this roll admirably.

I'd argue using Lacerta could be used against us in propaganda. You know, how the empire is sending them to their deaths in the mountains when they don't have proper magical support to let them live? Hell, you could argue there'd be positive propaganda at the fact we're NOT using them to protect them from the climate.

>>12260060
A phalanx CAN still be used, it'll just be highly dependent on us choosing the battle ground and maybe using smaller units rather than the full unit. Plus, they CAN fight outside of phalanx. They do have the big ass shields, which will be useful for protection against enemy archers and they do have longswords. I will concede 2 units of them might be overkill but I don't think they're useless, especially since they're the best trained troops we have access to.

>>12260079
This sounds good, we won't be needing cavalry in the mountains and don't want to earn noble bad will by getting their expensive cavalry killed.

We can wait until we get a mission more suited to it and some fame before recruiting cavalry.

Also swap the lizards for the aux.

I'm fine with hunters instead of skirmishers. Let's make pincushions out of their hides.

rolled 6 = 6

>>12260049
OP, what if I say I think we are tactically sound enough to deal even without the skirmishers? Can appropriate arrangements even be made? I'm thinking, bring them with us, let them idle and stay at camp by the fires so that they will think we are kind and perhaps spread that idea among the region inhabitants. I'm bringing them more as a propaganda tool now than anything else.

We are a commander now, we need to think of political backing as well as getting the job done. To be honest this many forces seems overkill anyways.

>>12260109
you could keep them idleing at camp, yes. And the Arcanum vaults are _HEAVILY_ guarded, and it is suspected they are heading to a set of ruins that were once a stronghold for a Dragon King and his Army. if you seriously think this is LizardSparticus you may as well roll for anal circumference now. /spoiler

>>12260109
>idle and stay at camp by the fires so that they will think we are kind
More likely it will end up with the Lacertans going "Why the fuck did the commander drag us all the way out here if we're not gonna do anything except freeze our tails off?" while the rest of our forces are thinking "Fucking REMFs, staying behind and doing nothing while we've gotta do the real work. What the fuck was the commander thinking, if at all?".

rolled 99 = 99

>>12260137
Could we conscript willing forces from the region? If not then sure drop the Lacertans for
400th Light auxiliary Rot
I assume these are dwarven?

>>12260163
Correct, and yea, if you turn out to be good with words you could recruit locals

>>12260163
Yep.

>>12260109
If anyone tries to nail us for not bringing them along, just go on a spiel about how some nefarious elements has stolen the empires means of ensuring they can survive in combat better and they're threatening the lives of lizardmen serving in the army across the entire empire rather than helping them. BOOM. Instant brownie points with some people at least.

rolled 94 = 94

actually, everyone but me and one other person want to keep the Lac, me, only because I might be thinking a little too far ahead. Drop em

>>12260163
take 295th bowmen instead since it sounds like we have a real battle on our hands

>>12260152
This, they're soldiers. Also I'm not a fan of writing off 16% of our forces as dead weight. We could use the extra battalion later on.

Using locals...eh, it could be alright. I still don't like relying on auxilaries too much.

rolled 3 = 3

>>12260198
I was thinking more ranged too. What if we picked up another Dwarf Scout group? The amount of devastation from a 2 phalanx and 2 Dwarf crossbow main body seems a bit large.

>>12260218

I'm fine with this idea. Anything that can perform a range and melee role should be fine I think.

>>12260218
agreed 50th dwarven scouts it is

>>12260218
This would, of course leave us with a complete lack of a hard-hitting melee unit.

>>12260239
are you forgetting the warlords?

so...
196th Legionary Rot
454th Legionary G
98th Warlords Res
99th Hunters Res
50th Dwarven Scouts

and:
65th Dwarven Scouts (meet in field)

good?

>>12260218
Disregard >>12260239 I was thinking you meant drop the Warlords. But, without the Light Aux or Skirmishers what would we use for a screen?

>>12260239
We have two legions, one of which is experienced. You think one can't hold while the other swings around to hit the flank?

>>12260265
excellente

>>12260265
I still have issues honestly but I'll compromise on this otherwise we'll get no where.

rolled 72 = 72

>>12260239
I think he is. So list is this:

50th Dwarf Scouts Rot
196th Legionary Rot
454th Legionary G
98th Warlords Res
99th Hunters Res

>>12260265
Good. Let's get this pain train rolling, the rebels have to make the 3:10 to Yuma.

>>12260265
Sounds good. Can we get more info on these ruins we think they fled to?

>>12260267

The scouts have axe and shields, for now they can screen. Later on we'll obviously get sturdier units for that role. Unfortunately, we're just starting out so we can't have everything.

>>12260305
Oh yeah, I completely forgot about that. I'm in, lets do this.

>>12260305
Really? You want to use the scouts to screen? Oh man... We're going to regret not taking light infantry I tell you all. Having so much heavy infantry in mountain terrain is retarded...

Whatever. I will stop arguing. Few people seemed to agree with me anyways.

Okay, now that we have our army, we should start hitting Intelligence for any recon info about the area we're going to, consulting the Archives about what we could conceivably expect in the Ruins, and if anyone has a profile on who the thieves/rebels could be and any psychological weaknesses we can exploit.

Also, we'll need to inform our command staff and have them get started on the logistics.

Dear god people, at this rate autosage is going to kick in before we decide anything.

Screening and Ranged:
50th Dwarven Scouts Rot
99th Hunters Res
+Dwarven Scouts enroute

Main Battle Line:
196th Legionary Rot
454th Legionary G

Flanking/Shock Troops:
98th Warlords Res

Does anyone have any objections? This gives us an average ranged presence, strong skirmishing, strong mainline, and good shock. And we won't have to write off 15% of our forces due to climate.

>>12260283
>>12260281
>>12260269
>>12260236
Standing upright over the table you notice the autumn sun is well on its way across the sky, You denote your choices on the sheet of parchment, and the Praetorian nods. "I shall have them relocate to your barracks compound today. And, a etiquette note, commander; it is customary for a commander to take his Captains for a meal before deployment. This is in no way mandatory, but..."

You nod in understanding. "Thank you Sir, but I fear I have already held up your dealings for too long. I shall see you upon my successful return" and at that you make your way out of the palace and head for your barracks compound.

rolled 52 = 52

I say on the way up there, we talk to the Captain of the 164th Legion and see if he and the newer one can do drills while walking. Like formation changes and the like, while we march. Just to get the 454th up to snuff a little bit. Not enough to get the famished and exhausted though. Just to keep order and make sure they don't idle.

>>12260336
Dude, 1/3 our force is light infantry. That's plenty.

Guess we have a dinner date then...also should we try to get one more person for our entourage? A grizzled vet missing a leg to be our military advisor?

>>12260352
Also get Sansa to work with the hunters so they're not completely incompetent. Unless she tells us she has other skills that would be useful. Another reason why I had wanted the vet hunters so we could use her in other ways.

>>12260352
What this guy said,
>>12260338
followed by dinner with our new captains. Let's meet these blokes.

>>12260368
I disagree. They're ranged units and thus not truly meant for melee combat like real light infantry is. Plus, I loathe the thought of putting in our ranged element into close combat willingly. I sure as hell wouldn't send our hunters or scout unit to flank berserkers if I had the choice but with what we have available, things like that might be necessary.

rolled 91 = 91

>>12260374
I had the complete opposite idea actually. Get Sansa to work with them to improve morale as well as make sure we have good relations with our soldiers. That is absolutely key in my opinion. Half of the fight is knowing that your flank won't break till pretty much all of them is dead. Of course we need to also show compassion and not just throw men into the meat grinder because we can. That is just immoral in my opinion.

>>12260388
invite sansa

When dining with our captains, I think we should go with the what we can best afford. We don't want to snub our subordinates; we need to show them that we value them and consider them worth our investment.

>>12260399
Didn't I suggest Sansa work with our hunters? I just would of preferred it if we had the veteran hunters and we used Sansa for other things.

rolled 62 = 62

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIT, before we go, I was going to ask whether or not the Praetorian's policy on prisoners or not killing them outright is.

>>12260392
You forget these are DORF scouts. With shields and axes. They're possibly even heavier than light infantry.

>>12260409
Too rich for an initial meeting. Let's be practical and efficient here. We save something like that for a victorious campaign.

>>12260392

No one ever said they were dedicated melee units. And by no one, I mean the DM. They seem to be multirole units. Their actual strong point is in tracking.

Also, while putting some of our ranged units as skirmishers is admittedly not the best of ideas I think this gives us a better balanced army.

>>12260409
Agreed. We need to start building loyalty now, so they'll stick with us when the shit hits the fan later.

>>12260420

Good point, do we slaughter them to a man or take them back to be...slaves?

rolled 90 = 90

>>12260431
>>12260426
I agree with both of these statements. Also, I really want to do this with the least amount of impact on the local political and economic structure.

Before we leave, we should ask the Praetorian about RoE for this mission; what's the policy towards prisoners, collaborators and partisans. Will it all be up to us, or are there some standing orders that we have to abide by?

>>12260426
Dorfs specialized as marksmen. Yet we're blunting that advantage by planning on using them in close combat. Besides, we've seen how easily dorfs can be cut down in our last mock battle. It's not like they're the be all-end-all of infantry just because they're dorfs.

>>12260456
Just because we're using them as a screen doesn't mean they can't fire their crossbows as the enemy approaches. Besides, they're the best medium infantry we have.

>>12260449
>least amount of impact on the local political and economic structure
You are right in that we will have to handle this delicately; these are citizens, not a foreign nation.
Economic instability can't be helped. All we can do is resolve the situation as quickly and as efficiently as possible. For that, we'll need to employ the locals.

rolled 66 = 66

>>12260456
True enough, but I'd rather have 2/3 the forces that are slower but more versatile in that they could let off many bolt rounds into whatever they are about to engage from far away.

Light Infantry: +++. equipment varies. Harassment/faster attacks (150 or so head)

Dwarf Scouts: +++, Leathers, Crossbows, round shields w/axe or shortsword. Speed on open fields, finding shit, marksmen, 100 head

>>12260472
Which is why I was suggesting we drop one scout unit for light infantry. A unit dedicated to screening our troops and better at fighting would be more efficient than using marksmen who have some ability to do close combat fighting.

Regarldess, I will drop the matter now. It's already been decided and you all seem to find using the dorfs as screening troops as acceptable. Ergo my opinion is irrelevant now.

Alright, it looks like we're deadlocked with which restaurant to go to (best we can afford vs. cheap and practical). Sounds like my gaming group on trying to decide Chinese, Thai, or pizza.

Since we probably won't be marching out for a few days, before we have the dinner, why don't we individually speak with the captains and get a feel for them, see which would be better for their temperaments.
This way, we can get going at last.

rolled 24 = 24

I wonder if OP thinks he bit a wee bit more off than he could chew when it comes to debating tactics and strategy in /tg/ now ><

>>12260529
He had to have seen this coming. I mean it only happens EVERY time /tg/ has to make a decision with more than a few options.

>>12260529
It's what I feared would happen in the first place during the last part of the quest. It went as smoothly as it did, I think, simply because there were few people involved in the battle who had the same line of thought. Who knows what would of happened if we had this many last night, all thinking of different strategies for the battle.

After a brief stop in the Archives you feel that if the Rebels truly have holed up in the Ruins at DragonsTomb you should be able to take the keep using much the same tactics that brought it down the first time. Your own personal knowledge of the lands north of here are that you will be moving mostly through more or less fertile foothills and pine-forests until you near the mountains, at which point the terrain will roughen quickly.

Walking down the Nobles Causway your are surrounded by mercenaries shouting the benefits of hiring on their bands. Some damned fool of a felixsian runs up to you in new leathers with a new battle-axe, claiming to be the best axehand on the Continent of Carnasia... by the looks of him, he was a painter until he woke up this morning. Off to your right you see a group of elves polishing the gemstone bridels of their velociprey mounts, the great riding lizards would be just as hindered as Lacertans where your heading though. You are about to turn to your barracks when a muscular femenine form in riding armor is thrown into you.

>>12260548
Did you drop your trip?

rolled 92 = 92

Meh, to be honest, I'm trying to think like a Roman Commander. It is quite unfortunate we don't have a group of cavalry though, but what we have will suffice. I don't think a lot of people realize what Roman style tactics were. There really wasn't one. It was, have a force that can handle pretty much anything thrown at them. They did it extremely well too. This was because of how large of an empire they had they couldn't just specialize fighting off certain cultures.

> Off to your right you see a group of elves polishing the gemstone bridels of their velociprey mounts,
> velociprey mounts

"I DONT CARE HOW WELL ESTABLISHED YOUR HOUSE IS!! MINE WAS AT THAT STALL FIRST!!!!!" she screams at a middle aged man leading a horse to the stall clearly ocupied by an Uursan, the great bear nearly three quarters again the size of the warhorse, both in full barding, a great polehammer strapped to its side.

"There is word an expedition is headed north soon, and I will not have my house overlooked on your account Mistress Jayne." the older man replies in a condescending tone.

"And what would your horses do but break their ankles on the rocks? Lord Baltarius?" She replies "uursan are the kings of the mountains and tundra, you keep your fat fool ass in the south where it belongs."

"House Garlian lost all honor when your father died, you little whore." the older man replies as you pass hearing range you can make out the clop-clop of horseshoes rapidly moving away from you.

>continue on to your barracks complex or investigate?
RoE are to take down the rebels, any prisoners that dont prove to be too much trouble can be brought back for trial

>>12260556
Dodge out of the way, see who was thrown into us, and who did the throwing.

Also....I guess be a gentleman about it and help her up and see what caused this?

>>12260588
I think we found our Cav contact.

>>12260559
Nope. Never used one.

>>12260575
We're the PC. We're allowed to be above and beyond the standard Roman general and revolutionize warfare in this universe. At least I hope so, heh.

>>12260588
Investigate.

>>12260588

FUCK HIM UP FOR IMPUNGING ON THE HONOR OF A RESPECTABLE LADY

rolled 39 = 39

>>12260556
You must play Monster Hunter Pax. I do too. I have sooooooo much time put in that game about 400 or so hours on just one character. Who knows how much on others.

Also: Take it with strides, try to just use her momentum to push let her glide past us while we stay stable. Then ask who the hell she thinks she is.......

>>12260588
Holy fuck yes! We should hire her!

Bear cavalry and dwarven snipers! Can this army get any better?

>>12260588
Ooooh, investigate. Uursan=BEAR CAVALRY?
Also, word of advice, try ending posts with a bit more obvious WAT DO choices so we don't end up dicussing options for hours.

>>12260617
How about no.

Let's investigate though.

>>12260588

Bear calvary

"A damn fool he is indeed...did I hear you mention Uursan? I'm preparing for an expedition of sorts and I must say that I find the thought of having a group of Uursan with my forces rather comforting."

>>12260616
Yeah, I thought you were OP for a second.

>>12260619
Oh Monster Hunter. How many hours I wasted on that game and how many times I randomly dropped in on a friend to play that game late into the night.

rolled 78 = 78

>>12260588
FUCKING BEAR CAVALRY HELLZ YEAH

I could go for some bear cavalry.

I don't know, bear cavalry might sound awesome but they can't be very fast. We need fast attack.

rolled 40 = 40

>>12260668
Have......You.............
You have no idea how fast bears are........They are bloody fucking fast. Also, FUCK YEAH BEAR CAVALRY

>>12260668
We have two legions of slow heavy troops. Bear cavalry is going to be faster than a shieldwall.

>>12260668

Yes, fast attack is needed, bears are pretty fast when needed. If we pick up a battalion of bear calvary for a good deal I see no issue with this.

>>12260619
>yea, played the original on my buddys ps2 back when. And no, I'm not intimidated, this setting is gonna be used for the Tactical RPG I'm making!

"Are you alright M'Lady?" you ask, stabilizing the fuming form you suddenly find in your arms. "And might I venture what that was about?"

She sighs, taking a step away from you and turning, straightening the leather riding pants she is wearing "Lady Jayne Garlian, head of the Garlian household since my father died of illness last year. And that was nothing, simply an old feud spiking up... as they all seem to be since I inherited the family holdings. I dont suppose you happen to know the Commander headed north, would you captain?"

>>12260699

Tell her yes, and inquire about bear calvary.

>>12260699
Why yes. That would be me.

>>12260699
Give her a smile. "This must be your lucky day because you are speaking to him."

rolled 2 = 2

>>12260699
Stifle a little laugh at her lack of courtly awareness.

"M'lady. I think this might just be the luckiest tumble you've taken in a while. I am that commander and yes I am in need of your services."

I have no idea what the pricing is and how much funds we have available. Mind elaborating on that OP?

I played MH on the PsP and Wii, dropped the Wii since I hate playing with the newbies online.

"That would be me, believe it or not." you reply, glancing at her mount "Are you looking to go on a campaign then?" its an obvious question, but protocol demends it.

"In fact, yes I am. My Houses honor and effectiveness have been in question and our power in decline since my fathers passing; and a successful campaign could very well stop the uncertainty and rumors of dishonour piling up about my house. How much of your requisition are you offering?"

>1d100 to seal the deal with cash (easy) or charms (not so much)

rolled 30 = 30

>>12260785
Charm. We can do this easy.

*troll smile* "Of course I know him. Would you care to meet him, it so happens he was looking for a new mount." ~something along those lines

Take her to our command tent or whatever and sit down in our command chair.

>>12260785
potential love interest?

rolled 9 = 9

>>12260785
LET ME ELOQUENTLYGENTLMAN THIS WOMAN

rollin

>>12260802
Damn. I should of followed my advice and let you do the rolling.

>>12260792
Just be glad you rolled as well as you did, or you'd be eating those words.

rolled 21 = 21

>>12260802
Hell yeah, I fucking love this quest thread already

>>12260802
go with this please

Still...I want to look into velociprey later...

rolled 20 = 20

>>12260808
I know right.

>>12260812
We already used our once per quest tg hates us freebie to use another roll.

>>12260815
YOU ARE BELOVED OF THE DICE GODS

rolled 68 = 68

Nah, they just like throwing low rolls at me. In Dragon Quest we need to roll high. So I ended up finagling like three rolls and saying I would refuse to roll in that thread again. These were important life or death rolls as well actually.

30 is pretty good, perhaps we can seal the deal with cash.

>>12260828
Actually, we've used it twice. Apparently the /tg/dice can sense tickery, making low rolls better doesn't reverse the effect.

>>12260861
I meant once today. I know we used it in the last session as well. I quite remember since I was the one who rolled that 96 against Cassius... Heh. At least I made up for it with the final roll against him.

Judging by the tight braided tail her brown hair is tied back in, and how natural she looks in armor, you get a hunch and act on it "If I would be defending the honor of a lady, I feel I would be obliged to offer whatever price you feel is fair."

She lights up like a tree, sometimes career warrior women can be so easy... why most men run scared from them you have no idea "I, uh... erm thank you, Commander..."

"Justinian, you may call me Justinian" you reply suavely, between the catch, kind words and the abnormal ammount of youth beneath your uniform you seem to have knocked her thoroughly off balance.

"Keep my men fed and cover half of their pay and I believe you have a deal... Justinian. where will my men find your barracks structure, and when will we leave by?" You smoothly walk up alongside her, filling her in on the details she will need to know for getting her men deployed to your barracks and for the mission; by the time you have rounded the corner off of the causeway her runners are setting her house in motion and you are discussing with her which dining hall you should take the Captains too.

>I have work early so I'm gonna have to call it for tonight, I'll be back Thursday at 8ish my time, 9ish according to 4chans post date/clock thingy. please archive

>>12260909
Curses. Looks like I'm going to have to miss next quest.

rolled 15 = 15

>>12260909
Awesome, I got Comp. Sci and Calc 2 tomorrow so I won't be here for the start I don't think. But I will try to be.
Been fun.

rolled 83 = 83

>>12260978
Look at my goddamn roles, holy crap. /tg/'s mods really need to fix this....also, this post will be above 50?

rolled 48 = 48

>>12260996
Imma leave it at that then, g'night everyone.

Also, anyone archive it yet?

>>12261002
Trying but it won't let me. Says: Invalid thread! You make my server cry. (Error: 404 response received)

>>12261028
Okay, got it working now. Thread has been archived.