I tear up my character sheet and go home.

Is this real?

There are no pokeballs, potions, or anything else that make the setting work.

i slay the charizard

Your next campaign is Dark Heresy, set on an Adeptus Mechanicus Forgeworld dedicated to producing adorable stuffed animals.

>First Crusade
>wearing lots of plate, not chain
>ASPIE RAGE MODE ACTIVATE

>>11865182


new antagonists in black and white

>>11865205

Pokemon can be summoned and dismissed because GOD WILLS IT.

>>11865240
will black and white feature time traveling?

>>11865278
Pokeballs are holy artifacts bestowed upon knights by god's church in Rome. Pokemon are spirits in the service of the lord, and their many forms and names are cataloged in the hierarchies of the angels

...unless they are summoned from the hands of those abominable Persians, in which case they are clearly the demonic servants of the great deceiver.

This sounds WONDROUS. Make it a bit of a low-pokemon setting, so you only have pokemon in the hands of the knights and nobility, and then they usually only have one or two at the most. Fill in the rest with some very gritty hack'n'slash medieval swordplay and this would make for an amazing game of low-magic historical fantasy with a small dash of summoning tossed in for flavor.

It doesn't hurt that pokemon seem to naturally lend themselves to being used as heraldic devices.

I would play the shit out of this.

Pokemon's background fluff is grimdark as shit. Pokemon were basically war animals, bred and trained for mass combat. Imagine a hundred pokemon all using Surf at the same time, and just tidal waving over the enemy. Suicide bomber voltorbs. Scyther assassins. The world was kept in a perpetual state of shit-fuckery because any peasant with a pokeball and some spare time could become the Unabomber.

Course then some god-pokemon looked over and went BITCH WHAT THE FUCK and bampfed the world into the cheerfully epileptic child-friendly state we know it now.

this shit has always been canon.

>>11865443
Les Hommes a Trois; the Men of Three, who are well-rounded in the arts of science, war, and politics. Once they reach the level of Journeyman, they must set out on their own and practice their skills. Once they have fulfilled this, they may return to the Monastery and spend the rest of their days as they please.

Intellectuals, men-at-arms, and savvy businessmen have all come from the ranks of Les Hommes a Trois; which will you be?

>>11865152
>>11865521
How were Pokeballs created?

>>11865833
Forged from Poke berries apparently.
Nowadays its all machines and stuff thats puts them together but there are still a few master smiths that can forge the special pokeballs made from the berries.
Shit you not.

>>11865833
Pokeballs were originally made from Aprikorns (big-ass walnut-like fruit), so that's taken care of.

I'd change it to a church-run thing, with all churches having their own specific style of Pokeball. A Vatican-made Pokeball would be different from something made by Franciscan Monks.

The Saracens and the Turks would use all the zubat... all of them

>>11865876
Plus the occasional Viking raid.

I'm thinking of Viking pokemon being all tough ones, Raticates at the very least, because the Viking style of training is more RAM THEM UNTIL THEY GIVE UP then "lolapricorns."

of course, now I'm imagining a Lapras with a longboat riveted to its shell.

Okay, I want to play a brooding Spaniard who uses steel type Pokemon. He's from the city of Toledo.

Dibs on the pilgrim to the holy land who uses flying type

To protect the Church from armageddon.
To unite all peoples within our kingdoms.
To announce the glory of Christ's holy love.
To extend our reach to the Lord above.
Robert
Alexios
Catholic church charge in at the speed of God!
Mmmm little boys are hot!

>>11866156
Better version:

To protect the Church from armageddon.
To unite all peoples in the Kingdom of Heaven
To announce the glory of Christ's holy love.
To extend our reach to the Lord above.
Robert
Alexios
May the Lord guide our holy blades!
Draw your swords, and prepare to be unmade!

Someone draw a Viking and Electabuzz standing side-by-side, roaring at something.

because, y'know, Thor's fury and all that. They'd be all fucking OVER the Electric type.

>>11866221
I like your version of the second line better, but I like my version of the last two more. Either way, good job. Someone had to do the Crusader version of the Team Rocket speech.

. . . Merciful God.

It's. . . it's beautiful.

I now, desperately, want to play a crusading knight who rides a Rapidash into battle, shouting "GOD WILLS IT!" the whole fucking time.

>>11866248
>>11866302
>Rapidash

Fuck that noise.

BE A MAN OF THREE; RIDE A GODDAMN DODRIO INTO BATTLE.

>>11865811

I should run this in Pokemon Tabletop Adventures when it's finished.

Gonna need stats for baseline humans, though.

According to legend, Solomon was said to have discovered magic that allowed him to capture a small army of demons and bind them to his service, storing them in a ring or a jar. Among other things, he used their slave labor to construct the temple.

This has a place in this setting's backstory.

>>11867946
"And in antiquity didst Solomon, king of kings, discover the means to capture monsters that roamed the land, through cunning magics bestowed upon him by God, in jars and rings and a thousand devices besides. Yet these would break, shatter when the pressure came to be too much, and his charges would escape, howling, into the night.

So it was for centuries until, one night, a demon escaped its durance at the monastery where Saint Aprus didst study humility. His abbot bade him seek the demon, for Aprus was the newest and youngest of the monks, and had only just learnt the catechism of imprisonment, had been the one to renew it upon the creature's confinement. Thus, as Aprus was responsible for its escape, it was decided that he would be responsible for its recapture.

>>11868092

Aprus followed sorrowing, yet intent that he should find it, and wrest the secret of its escape from it when found. But the days were long, and after a week at its chase, wise Aprus was tired. He took his rest beneath a tree ripe with fruit, striking it once to take his pick.

Of the fruits that fell, he chose a red one, and bit deep, only for the thin skin to frustrate him-for beneath was a thick husk, one that frustrated his every attempt to sunder it. In anger, he laid about it with the haft of his walking-stick, only to have it break neatly in two along its middle.
And Aprus did smile, for this presented an opportunity.
Shortly, the demon returned, only to shy away when Aprus held forth the hull, hollowed and cunningly blessed. He didst cast it forth, and struck it neatly upon the brow, only for the demon to vanish into it in a flash of red light. As the demon struggled within, the nut rolled back and forth, flashing and wobbling-only to stop, and to cease its movement.

Then didst Aprus take the nut, and return to his monastery, presenting it to the Abbot. When the demon was released, it prostrated itself before him, laying its four arms upon the floor and praising the Lord God.

For his services, Aprus was promoted to Friar, and years later, to Abbot. After his death, he was Sainted, and today, we still use his miraculous discovery-Aprus' Seed, or Apri-corn."
-The Legend of Saint Aprus

>>11865521
seriously? source please

>>11868118
The Lucario Pokemon movie.

Movie starts out with two fuckhuge armies preparing to wreck each other's shit before Lucario Mary Sues it all away.

Or something. I saw it like, a year ago.

Electric pokemon saved Lt. Surge's life in the war. They zapped his enemies into paralysis. There's precedent for this.

>>11868096
>>11868092
What, no love for the writefaggotry?

Couldn't help myself.

A crusades era pokeball

>>11868220
Probably one of particularly high quality. Blessed by the Pope himself, prayed over by nuns for forever, et cetera, et cetera.

Master Ball in their day. Ultra Ball in ours.

Bump.

C'mon guys, this is awesome. I even wrote a backstory for how Pokeballs.


...


Well. Looks like it's up to me.


The Basion of Saint Aprus

The tree Saint Aprus sought respite under has become a castle-cathedral in the decades since his death. Construction began shortly after his Sainting, and continued for ten years afterward, resulting in the current Bastion.

Built in the shape of a cross, the Bastion is surrounded by a roughly circular keep, and outside that the city of (city name here). Within the center of the Bastion, under a great glass dome, is its greatest treasure.

For Saint Aprus' Bole is the only one that gives every color of Apri-Corn.

Many a Monk has agonized over the reasons, but no one knows why the Bole is the only one to carry every type. Any Apri-corn sprouted from it will grow more of its type, and with greater strength than the children of the latter, but no graft onto any other Apri-corn tree will work, nor bear the multiplicity of colors on every branch that is the miracle borne upon the heraldry of the Knights Keeper (this is a bit weak; someone with better knowledge of Old English will have to come up with something better). Within the halls of the Bastion itself lie the cells of master Apri-corn crafters, skilled in the arts of binding and sealing, and the rooms of Paladins mighty enough to have earned respite here in the holy of holies.

In the Keep surrounding it are the training-halls for young Knights, wherein they are issued their first (whatever we're calling Pokemon) and learn the mastery thereof. Below are the dungeons for arch-heretics, and the crypts for those who have earned it.

Last bump.

Goddamnit /tg/, we started out good, why do you suck all of a sudden?

>>11868846
Nighttime /tg/ is going to bed.
>and vainis
Captcha has it.

>>11866014

That's enough zubats to block out the sun.

>>11868900

Oh no you didn't just go there.
Shit, you did.

Thermopylae with pokemon.

Oh god.

I've always wondered what a pokemon game would be like if they set it in the past instead of in the "fancy future" Perhaps in the past there were a lot more pokemon that were killed or died out over time, making them absent from the current time line. It would make a great setting too. I even have the two versions for the setting, Pokemon Bronze and Pokemon Steel

>>11868927
"Word is that Cerulean City has already turned you down. And if those philosophers and Water-type lovers can find that kind of nerve. And of course Pallet Town has it's reputation to consider."

"A new age has begun, an age of Pokemon! And all will know that 300 Fighting-types gave their last HP to defend it!"

>>11868900

then we will fight in the shade

>>11869229
fucking lol'd

BUMPING LIKE THE FIST OF MACHAMP!

bamp

I love you forever /tg/

>>11865529
armor on a pokemon whose description says he can't be hurt by any sort of attack in the first place?

>>11871797
That description came from somewhere, didn't it?

>>11871797
Yo dawg, we herd you liek being indestructible, so we put armor on your armor so you can rape while you annihilate.

Writefag's back.

I was thinking that the Saracens and Turks have access to a single, weak offshoot of the bole that produces profligately but weakly-ergo the Zubat "quantity not quality" approach. Of course, there's nothing stopping them from training the hell out of their Pokemon, or giving Apri-corns (I'm thinking they call them something else, but my foreign language knowledge is wanting) to lowly but distinguished foot soldiers.

As such, you have legions of Pokemon under level 10 versus perhaps fifty Pokemon at LV45-50. If you're (un)lucky, one of the commanders might have a Legendary or Near-Legendary.

>God, gracced

Well, if that's not approval, I don't know what is. As you command, Captcha!

>>11865205

Pokeballs are mechancial versions of Apricorn balls, which also serve just fine for capturing a Pokemon.

Berries are capable of healing status effects, recovering HP, etc. Herbal versions of most medicines used in the Pokemon world existed well before the spray versions sold in the "modern" Pokemon world.

In short, your knowledge of the game world is a mite low.

>>11868958

One thing of note is that Pokemon are definitely regional in nature.

The ones that exist in Kanto/Johto and the surrounding areas? They do NOT exist in Isshu, the region of the world Black/White is set in. Likewise, it's known that some Pokemon species are "living fossils" at best, making them extremely rare otherwise- and Pokemon DNA can be reasonably revived from fossilized specimens.

Most importantly, many Pokemon develop according to their environment and the feelings aimed at them. Take Eevees, who'll evolve based on happiness and daylight, or a strong source of the right kind of radiation into a host of different versions.

So yeah, the idea of early Pokemon being literally "demonic" makes sense.

So yeah, perfectly reasonable to find an entire new pile of the pocket monsters depending on where and when

I'l fucking say it, even though i dont deserve to even READ it.

That writefagging is fucking DIVINELY INSPIRED.

I will now join the other anon on my rapidash yelling GOD WILLS IT!

>>11875502
R-really?

I thought it was a bit weak, really...but thank you.

Honestly, though, worldbuilding of this sort is not a one-man affair. Much as I would like to be praised alone for my efforts, I'm gonna need help with this.

So far, my idea is that the Saracens have Black Apricorns and the Turks have Red Apricorns; aside from that, I have very little. I can't find a good article on the military of each (though to be fair I only skimmed the Wikipedia article) so I don't know what to look for.

rolled 5, 5 = 10

...This makes me think that /tg/ should make a pokemon romhack around this ye-old idea.

>LOVING action
I think captcha's trying to say something...

>>11875036
>knowledge of the game world
>picture of a cartoon

Keep this thread alive!

>>11875887
Getting /tg/ to agree on something, much less actually do it, is a nigh Herculean affair. Better one man starts and just takes whatever help gets thrown at him.

If we're using the crusades in this, then perhaps the Legendary pokemon would be something akin to Archangels or something like that? Naturally, that means that no one would dare to try and capture them, but I think we could do without them being brought onto the battle field all the time.

Also, what about the Unknown?

>>11876235
Agreed. Adeptus Evangelion has Black Mesa Janitor, Pokemon Tabletop Adventures has Dr. Mr. Stark, Engine Heart has Viral...

I think EVERY big project that has cooked on /tg/ has had one person working to push it along, possibly with the help of a few closely assorted fellow developers, with the general community contributing after that.

>>11876586
I think playing up the whole pokemon = angels (or at least divine beings) would really help push the setting's feel.

Pokeballs are all to similar to Globus cruciger (those bejeweled sphere things with the tiny crosses on them that kings always have), pokedexes are radically similar to the Hierarchies of the Angels written up medieval scholars. St. Francis of Assisi dates from a century or two after the crusades, but the patron saint of animals is just a bit too topical to pass up. You can pile more religious symbolism that Evangelion into this and it fits just a little bit too well. And what knight WOULDN'T want a Bulbasaur or Charizard their shield.

thread has been archived go vote
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html

The pokemon world lives in a society like the one shown in "Demolition Man", that's why kids can dissmantle world-wide mafias and their plans.

Also the reason why no one rapes some 12-year olds walking around the globe.

rolled 3, 2 = 5

>>11876235
>>11876699
I can do the romhacking itself, but as far as coming up with designs for everything like maps, trainers, and pokemon, I'm rather limited. D:

I'd certainly need creative help with it.

>>11876953
That, wha? Son, around here we do things with PDF editors and a whole lot of dice. REAL dice, mind, none of this pansy e-lec-tonic number maker nonsense. You're sounding a mite bit like those boys from over /v/ ways...

Also, feeling a bit inspired, I started to look into writing up some writefaggotry for this, only to run head long into how balls terrible it is to translate something into latin. Sweet fuck, I am not surprised that this is a dead language.

>>11876953
Keep it to G1 (RBY). I'd go as far as making it a hack of G3(RSE), though; you'll need a GBA sequencer for the music.

I'm thinking you'll also need the memory size. The world we're going to work with is going to be HUGE, compared to the average Pokemon game; even if it's just kept to three or four cities and the trails between them. A shitload of custom sprites are going to be needed; about the only stuff you'll be able to keep will be background, and I'm thinking there'll be a lot of recycling of the sprites from Rustboro and the Mirage Tower.

But if you feel you can do it, full speed ahead.

Actually, to tell the truth, I'm fine with Pokemon up to G3 as long as they're either imposing or redrawn to look less stupid. I.E. Mightyena yes, Plusle/Minun no unless they're more ratlike, Gulpin/Swalot No Period.

Likewise, none of the Pollution Pokemon like Koffing or Muk-not enough trash for them yet.

I'd only add extra pokemon if they're commonly liked Hoax Pokemon. There are a few sheets of entire Hoax Series; have a look.

Bumpity. Why in balls is this on Page 5?

>>11877672
>I'd only add extra pokemon if they're commonly liked Hoax Pokemon. There are a few sheets of entire Hoax Series; have a look.

Say, if we're doing that, maybe Missingno. should have a cameo as an arch-daemon or something?

bump, because GOD WILLS IT!

Don't forget that there will be many different pokemon, and the ones that are the same will be different off shoots that are slightly different looks and all. Also try and make some that represent mythologies of the local area and not just make them random and/or animal knock offs. For example if it's in england/ireland then a fairy knock off would be one.

>>11879009
I like that. Put it off the coast of a godforsaken island somewhere and get mad rewards if you kill/imprison it.

rolled 5, 5 = 10

Alright, so far it sounds like:
>Original 152(Fuck you I count Missingno. as a pokemon) sans magnemite, magneton, grimer, muk, koffing, weazing, and mewtwo. (feel free to voice oppinions on this)
>Pokemon redesigned to be more feral and/or realistic.
>Hoax pokemon should they have fitting designs. (I never kept up with these so any information on them would be great)
>Original pokemon to reflect the region.
>Europe-based region.
>Work in GBA-based platform.

>>11880140
Given how filthy the middle ages could be, why leave out Grimer and Koffing and Muk and Weazing?

rolled 4, 4 = 8

>>11880160
Again, nothing is set in stone, especially at this point. It was suggested by >>11877672 but you do make a good counter-point.
I can't quite think of a reason to have magnemite and magneton around, for they seem almost too modern for the setting. Arguments to this are welcome.
As much as I like Mewtwo, it should be excluded for fairly obvious reasons.

Also, what about voltrob and electrode?

>judgement, ballego

Jesus, this is a thread? This whole time I thought I clicked on one of those "Godly Thread Screencaps".

Holy fuck.

>>11880361
Pokedex entry says they were discovered when the first electronic pokeballs came out.

>No Mewtwo
A Wizard did it. Lose the Movie/Series-Verse Frankensteins monster deal, make him more a Crime Against Nature. An abomination spreading corruption and madness.
>No Magnemite/Magneton
An alchemist did it. They look more like brass doodads and swirly bits.
>Koffing, Weezing
Clouds of black plague
>Mukk/Grimer
The mould and fungus, human remains liquefied by putrification, that gather in paupers graves.

The Inquisition approves of this!

>>11880140
Yeah.

Lemme see if /tr/ has any.

Also, if you feel up to it, drawing the pokes in the general style of woodcuts would also be cool.

There's also this, dunno if it'll be useful or not.

>>11880140
>>11880452
This version of Mewtwo with this pic equals Black Knight, roaming Europe laying waste to humanity and freeing his "own kind"

>human remains liquefied by putrification, that gather in paupers graves.
...
Grimer now 100% more GrimDark

rolled 6, 6 = 12

>>11880452
Fair enough.
>>11880406
Also says they might also be sentient energy, which gives me the idea of them being like ball lightning in this age.
>>11880504
I love this pic every time I see it. It could most certainly be used for inspiration. As far as woodcut goes, I'm not very sure how good it'd look in sprite form, but would make for bitching titlescreen art and such though.

Hmm, I'm starting to think it'd be unfair to leave out any of the classic 152. I'm sure all of them could be altered in one way or another to fit in, as proven thus far.

>>11880452
>>11880598
Stand back, I'm about to attempt writefagging.

>someness broudin

>>11880697
Inquisitor Heironomous placed his hand heavily upon the lectern, silently mouthing the prayer of Repellance. With a yawning creak, the vast tome before him is opened. Stood beside him, the frantic looking local minister shifts agitatedly.
"Well? What does the Pokerian Codex say...?"
"We will find nothing in this tome, this being existed not in the times of Learned Pokerian... It is as I feared." Hieronomous features paled, examining the the twisted remains or armour, bent into unnatural shapes as though a child might bend reeds. "Send Word to Rome, use your fastest Rapidash... This land is blackened by the Shade of Mew..."

>>11880598
This is europe version, he doesn't give a shit about pokemon any more than he does for humans. He's like the fucking tarrasque running around spreading chaos then going back to his layer and await for "heros" to challenge his might. He also gives a huge speech about something stupid before fighting anyone/everyone, and psychically forces them to listen to it if he must.

Also europe should have a fuckload of steel and dark type pokemon during this period.

If it goes on during the black plauge period then ghost type pokemon in the swarms. Multiple towns that have been walled off to prevent the disaster inside from getting out, letting all the people die in there. Lavender Town theme would be almost everywhere people are found.

>>11880826
Interesting start.

Something that occurred to me-instead of the Bike, get a Saddle. It allows you to ride one of your Pokemon-though I suspect due to the limitations of the game it'll be just the one sprite.

Might consider Rapidash AND Dodrio due to the Mach/Acro Bikes, though.

>>11880826
I'm on the road to Vatican City!
I'll fight crusades along the way!
I'm on the road to Vatican City!
I've got a sword and the power to slay!

>>11880826
Hi! I'm an acolyte of the Oaken Order! Have you finished your Pokerian Codex? If you have, I can give you this useless item!

The biggest question is which part of Europe will this take place in? I think we should pick a single country and have it deal mainly in/around that specific country. I was thinking either the holy roman empire(lots of internal conflict there) or Byzantine empire where the crusades mainly took place in.

The new pokemon B&W is set in (modern) America, team rocket is replaced by team europe who are a bunch of evil knights

This is getting archived

RIGHT?

What about the "You can only have six at a time" rule? How does this work out?

>>11880977
"Useless," my ass. This isn't Shiny Hoity Toity Future Pokemon Land, this is EUROPE DURING THE GODDAMN CRUSADES. ANY gadget you find is going to be valuable. A Pokeflute? Entrance attacking Pokemon to make them leave you alone. A catechism to find items? Ta-da, you can help the peasantry for a few coins and a hot meal when you're at low ebb. Teach your Pokemon to use Flash? Ta-da, never need a torch again. Exp. All? Now all your pokemon know what it's like to fight.

Don't be such a pissant.

>>11881008

I dunno that it'd be relevant, since someone mentioned earlier that it'd be a low pokemon setting, and I think that'd work out for the best.

THIS THREAD IS FUCKING AWESOME

rolled 1, 1 = 2

The eager warlock grinned to himself as he finished drawing the last runes of his summoning circle, with two outer circles for which to place the materials needed. He reached into his cloak for a vile, and poured the fuzzy pink contents of it into the center of smallest circle. Storing the vial back into his pocket, he went to the other corner of the room to retrieve the other required reagent: the pure body and soul of a human.

Shivering in fear, the young girl Amber was tied up with scraps of cloth, her eyes weeping in the final moments of her short life.

The crude man dragged her by the arm and into the larger outer ring, dropping her on her side. She struggled for all she could, but she could not move her body enough to matter. Her fate was sealed.

The warlock called out various words of power as the runes began to light up, filling the room with a grey glow. The summoning circle began to consume its offerings. First the pink tufts, as they scattered and swirled around the center. Followed by the pure body. Amber could only watch in horror as her flesh and bone were torn apart in a torrent of gore starting in her legs. A shrill echoed in the room as it progressed, until there was nothing left but a glow. Finally, the summoning circle easily consumed the last of it's offerings, Amber's very own spirit.

In a dazzling light show the offerings merged together, reforming into a new shape, very much like the creature the fur had come from, but a much more humanoid shape.

"At last!" the warlock hollered with glee, "The powers of the greatest demon are mine to control!"

"I shall call you... Mew II..."

>>11880504
Oh man. This image.

Think about the Houndoom guy as the replacement for the hashashin. (If they're actually from a later crusade, my apologies, but I'll continue)

The Inquisitor looked over the walls at the dark sands, his mind troubled. He knew that his side was the side of Christ, but the enemy had proven surprisingly resilient. Often he found his troop movements predicted by the one the Saracens called "Allah-Khazan", rumored to be a powerful sorceror. It was from his dark mountain that the greatest threat to the safety of Inquisitor Jussé's men came: The Hounds of Hell.

Bedecked in black clothes, festooned with bones and symbols of death, they would savage supply lines and patrols that rode at night. It was said that they felt no pain or fear, the touch of Allah-Khazan having purified their minds. OR so the Saracens claimed. Jussé suspected some sort of drug or witchcraft. Pensive, he turned his back on the sands, to look over his small bastion. He had maybe twenty knights to his command, and a hundred peasants outside the walls relied on them for protection. He would have to increase patrols if he was to-

A shock disturbed his train of thought. His breath caught, and he looked down to see the tip of a blade protruding from his chest. As it slid free, he turned. Upon the battlement, one of the Hounds perched. His clothes were black as described, but his veil was orange. As Jussé fell, the Hound spoke.

"It is the will of Allah-Khazan that this place be emptied. By blade and by fire we consign this place to doom. You shall fall. Your men shall fall. And one day, your god shall fall, and the ruins of your land shall be the meal of the Mightyena. Sleep now, and know that you have failed."

As Jussé's life fled from him, the dark night brightened, as flames began to illuminate the fortress. The last thing he heard were the cries of alarm, and the howling of the Hounds of Hell.

>>11881023
Ah, so most knights only ave a handful.
And if someone somehow DOES obtain more then 6, they could always keep them stowed in a pack or something... Or have a sanctuary for their pokemon hidden in the hills or whatnot.

rolled= 6,2=8
i launched my dick into the shaymin, its tight asshole, ripping from my intense girth, blood gushed out, covering my dick

>>11881054
Final line needs a bit of work. I don't think we're too set on what Mew is, so I suggest that Mew is like a holy figure for the christians, and Mewtwo will be referred to as "The Second Mew" aka Mew Two because well, its mere existence would be a blasphemy, being a demon. Calling it Mew Two would be like double blasphemy?

That's nice. /b/ is that way <-

>>11881109

they would call him AntiMew or something

>>11881119
It doesn't flow. The Second Mew works fine, I think.

The thing is, it's not just the pokemon that need to be doing the fighting. You should fight beside your pokemon in the most literal sense. I'm thinking that you should be limited to one pokemon on you at a time until you yourself reach like level 30 then you can bring a second one with you(no more than that though), and that pokeballs are rare, and instead of normally having to throw new ones if they fail to catch that they can be rethrown(give them a durability, that goes down depending on the strength of the enemy, if it fails too many times it breaks).

howhasthisnotbeenpostedyet.jpg

I find the prospect of pokeballs to be utterly stupid, especially within the time period of the first crusade, magical artifacts or otherwise, it doesn't add anything.

>>11881156
Read the Legend of Saint Aprus earlier in the thread.

Apri-corns are an extreme rarity; only the nobility can afford them, and owning a tree is a sign of considerable wealth indeed.

So chillax.

rolled 1, 1 = 2

>>11880994
The Ireland-UK area seems to be a good area.

Then again, I don't exactly have a map with japan right next to Europe open right now.

>>11881186
I did skim most of the thread, and it's still an awful idea "capturing pokemon"

>>11881214
It's got the most fluff on it, though, so it is therefore the most important.

Anyway, my plan for the beginning of the game-you're a young Knight Keeper in training, and the first thing that happens in the game is Abbot Oake (Steel) or Preceptore Chêne (Bronze) asking you your name, and your reason for becoming a Knight Keeper/Chevalier du Trois. Shortly thereafter you are inducted; you receive your first Pokemon-a Ponyta if you're playing Steel, Doduo if Bronze and...thereafter, I don't know.

Howzat?

>>11881195
That area didn't really shine much during the middle ages. Only during the late middle ages, which I doubt this will be taking place during, did it start doing anything significant. That area would be awesome to do if it was during the dark ages though.

>>11880841
>>11881132
I prefer this, The Shade/Shadow of Mew.
Emphasises Darkness. The idea it's cast from her light, and not a true being.

rolled 1, 4 = 5

>>11881233
Oh fuck I'm not even sure if GBA emulators can link together online.

Why not just one version? Much easier on the Romhack side of things, and much less redundant for those that might want to make a mod for Pokemon Tabletop Adventures.
(maybe /Tempered Gold/? I'm so clever hur der)

rolled 3, 6 = 9

>>11881245
I really don't know much about earlier parts of the middle ages, so if you've a better idea then by all means say it, comrade.

>>11881301
They can. Or Virtual Boy Advance can, at the very least.

If nothing else you can just do Pokemon Steel first and if reception is good enough, Pokemon Bronze second.

>>11880504
when I first saw this image the thing the popped into my head was basically pokemon meets Kamen Rider in the Ryuki style of there being an assload of Riders fighting each other for the right to a boon from the Ultimate Rider, Arceus

used this to somewhat bring the amount of riders down to more manageable levels by treating evolutions as super modes and also the main character would have been Evee
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_evolution_family

>>11881330
Italy is the best place, or Byzatine empire if you want to be PART of the crusade. France also had much importance, and would make a decent place. Holy Roman Empire(AKA Germany) could also be a nice place, what with all the barely being able to hold itself together.

>>11881245
>>11881330
>implying historical accuracy trumps rule of cool in a Pokemon only Medieval and GrimDark game

Nineball shows up, Grenades fall everybody dies.

>>11881447
I dunno, I had a mental image of a huge Oblivion-style world to explore-or two, to be exact; your homeland (England or France) and Byzantium.

Less of the whole "HURF DURF TREECORRIDORS" and more of a proper overworld.

Each'd have a little to recommend itself on-you can find Poison, Dark, Normal, Water, Flying, and Grass pokemon in England; while Fire, Rock, Ground, et al are found in Byzantium.

Again, though, this might be too ambitious.

>>11881484
What the dicks does that have to do with anything?

Frist thing first, Pokemon Bronze is a terrible idea.
The Bronze Age ended in the 1200 B.C.
We are talking about the first crusade, in the 1096-99 A.C.
Pretty much two thousand years of difference.
And bronze stopped being used when they discovered iron, which on turn was made obsolet by steel.

So, please stop this idiocy. Pokemon Bronze would be set in the Hellenic age and be a totally different game.
On the matter of Mew.
Mia or Meu would be a Latin alternative.
Mewtwo would be Meu Secundus or Ombra Mei or Antimia or something similar.

>>11881494
Nineball is ALWAYS relevant

rolled 6, 3 = 9

>>11881400
Italy seems like a good idea in that case. Maybe Molise, Campania, Apulla, Basilicata, Calabria, and Sicily?

Or if you want to include France, use the upper parts Italy and a bit of France, like Rhone-Alpes and PACA.

Holyfuck it's late/early/whatever it's 5:40am. I'm going to sleep. If the thread is around when I wake up I'll certainly make a return.

Thread has been awesome, and you guys are awesome.

>jostreve specific

>>11881500
You make a good point.
Consider Bronze reconsidered.
>>11881503
It's not related here. Go away, please.

ARCEUS VULT!

>>11881514
In a pokemon centered cursade campaign?

Nineball is ALWAYS relevant to campaigns as every campaign needs a hidden threat that poses annihilation to any who become too strong

>>11881541
IN THIS CASE IT'S FUCKING MEWTWO

NINEBALL IS NOT RELATED

/v/ IS THAT WAY <-

[CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR RAGE]

The Torterra tamed by Saint Martha would be called Tarasque from the castle of Tarascon where it was first found.

>>11881588
U Commencing Hostilities

>>11881608
It could be any other giant monstruous turtle pokemon, I think I remember a painting where the Saint use it to litterally surf over a lake, and it was said to be the spawn of the Leviathan, so Blastoise?

Also, Tarascon was named from the Tarasque/Tarasco, which always had that name apparently. Before it was called Nerluc.
So, the other way 'round.

>>11881650
Said Torterrasque

>>11881650
I prefer Blastoise. I dislike G4 pokemon.

BUMP
FOR GREAT JUSTICE!!!

I think Gen 1 and 2 pokemon should be in the game, fuck all other gens. Plus, these gens legendaries weren't retarded. *cough* Arceus *cough*

Siegfriend von Lancenstoss, Archpaladin and commander of the Dragontamer Brigade.

>>11882542
The whole medieval pokemon thing was introduced with the 4 Gen.
And Arceus is awesome.
ARCEUS VULT

Awesome Thread!

>Also pic totally related.

There's no reason to not include a mix of generations for such an effort.

Grimers and Muks certainly would do just fine- the medieval world is a filthy place, and Grimers breed from filth. Muks would be more likely in urban areas, where the debris and waste of thousands pools in heaps of stinking trash and "food" is more plentiful.

Oddly enough, such creatures would be considered a mixed blessing- dangerous to get near, but towns that had a decent population of the slimy things suffered far less plague and disease. They are considered fallen souls, whose punishment from God is to consume filth for eternity.

Koffings and Weezings are found in volcanic areas and deep in caves where bad air is found. Often, the idiot grin of one is the last warning a miner will have that the air is becoming poisonous or explosive, and a lit torch will often goad one into destroying everything in a single burst of hell-stench and firestorm. They are thought to be the souls of miners caught by the Devil and the sight of one will often make digger and owner alike abandon even the most promising prospects.

moar

Two monsters feared by many Crusaders, the Mighty Hyena and the Hounds of Doom.

The first is found in mountains and deep forests, where they hunt great deer- always in packs. Daring men have been known to steal pups from the pack, who grow to be more loyal than any hound and stronger than the most dire of wolves. One bite from a full grown creature can tear a man in mail in two, and such mountain men and mercenaries who tame one are in high demand for war and hunting the more fell beasts that lurk where the light of God is hidden.

The Hounds of Doom are wicked things, night-runners who hunt the desert sands and drink from scalding and befouled sulfurous springs that would boil a man in an instant, or kill him with the poisonous humours.

When angered, they breathe flames from the hell they were spawned from. The Saracen love them, taming the beasts as their pagan god's gift to punish the sinful with flame and claw.

We kinda forget that Mewtwo was created by science and all that shit.

Unless time travel is involved... in which case, welp

What would the Byzantines be like? I think they'd try to use their vast wealth to simply bribe the pokémon into their service.

The rare beast shown here is simply known as Absolution, for it is rarely seen unless the doom of all who bide by it's path is nigh. Though it's teeth and claws are fierce and quick if attacked, the wise know this beast is sent by God as a warning of divine punishment- earthquake, floods, and other acts of God- and give thanks that He has warned them to depart.

To wound such a beast is often only to bring the doom it has heralded more swiftly, for when Absolution sings it's death song, all who hear it will perish soon afterwards.

I know I'm a little late to the setting discussion, but Italy or HRE would be thematically appropriate considering the Pokemon games: both these regions are divided into many small fiefdoms, much like the seemingly autonomous cities that make up the Pokemon universe where there doesn't seem to be a centralized government of any kind.

>>11883334
What we call science now, back then they might've just called magic.
Occult rituals in far away Gomorrha may have given birth to That Thing That Should Not Be, before God's wrath cleansed the city with holy fire.

>>11883315
>>11883388

Moar please

>>11883334
I think some of us aren't getting that this isn't the pokemon worlds past, it's just an analogue of ours with pokemon interwoven into it. Not limited by the games fluff at all just adapting what we can of it.

Jesus...this is the best thread I've read all week.
Also:
Steampunk Magnemite, do want.

La toge tic, or as the common name Togetic is a pagan sprite known from the age of the noble Romans. It was often seen visiting orgies and other wild celebrations, where it would spread a strange dust that would make the revelers shake with un-natural levels of joy.

>>11883698
So where would these guys fit in?

>>11883422
Mewtwo as the last Survivor of Sodom and Gomorragh...? Looking like your pic...?
DO
FUCKING
WANT

>>11883744
Knights Templar, or something along those lines. Or possibly witchhunters...sadly I think the timeline is too early for them to be Inquisitors.

Does anybody else see diglets being really fucking OP? They can undermine a city's defenses in minutes and can't be hit while using dig.

>>11883760
Too early for witch hunters, too. The witch craze didn't happen until the 1600s. While the KT are topical, nothing about them fits with Team Rocket.

Missingno is an elder god

HE COMES FROM THE SHORE

Team Rocket is an organization that was arms dealers and represent the old world attitude on pokemon

>>11883744
I'm seeing them as an Egypt based (talking cat that brings fortune and all) neutral party that does wetwork for either side.

>>11883837
Disregard the Egypt part, I just realised they were under muslim control back then.

>>11883795
DIGGLET DIG DIGGLET DIG
TRIO TRIO TRIO
DIGGLET DIG DIGGLET DIG
TRIO TRIO TRIO
DIGGLET DIG DIGGLET DIG
TRIO TRIO TRIO

RBY/GS was about fighting over weapons (pokemon as weapons)

RS was about fighting over territory (territory is finite, but with the power of the legendaries, you can create or destroy land)

DP was about fighting over energy resources (all towns are themed after energy, and the goal of Galactic is to harness the unlimited energy of Time/Space Evolution)

BW... having already covered fighting over weapons, territory, energy, I figure will be fighting over ideology and righteous belief.

The crusader looking badguys seems fitting, and kids born in the 21st century have grown up with War in the middle east going on for as long as they've been self aware.

Magnemite could be baghdad battery based.

I always tought of the trainers as warlocks, able to change the sorts of a battle, controlling up to six of the most powerful sort of mosters at the same time.
Like wandering wizards, probably they think of themselves as gods, and are easily recognize by some peculiar vests, with the insignia of their guild.
Guilds are dedicated to the breeding of one of the three strongest pokemon of a region, a big city can have a green a blue and a red guild.
Orphans and unwanted offspring are brought to the guild where they recieve the necessary education and training to become a pokomen master.
When they hit the age of wisdom they are given one pokemon of the same age and they are sent in peregrination for a year from city to city, to learn the art from other masters and to train the monster.

The services of a guild can be purchased by a wealthy lord or a king, but they are mainly indipendent.
Who would question the authority of the monks who control a thousand charizards?

>>11883966
Magnemites are modular alchemical clockwork spawns.

Those batteries were already forgotten by a thousand years when the crusades came.

Hugh of Vermillious flattened himself against the side of the building, his knees shaking as he poked his head round to watch the gate open. It was quiet. The Saracen archers and Kadabras must be lying in wait for him. Still, if he were to die, his pride as a Crusader would not let him die penned up within the walls of Antioch. He turned to his loyal Hariyama (named Philip, of course), and nodded, once. He burst out and began running, Philip loping behind him and a squad of men with swords drawn and Nidorinos ready behind Philip.

Everything outside was still.

By the time he reached the gate, he was quite out of breath. Still nothing, though.

Even as Philip grabbed Hugh and began to run with him, they were too slow - the Saracen lookout turned his head, and yelled something in the barbarous speech of Johto. As the archers grabbed their bows, Philip turned his eyes to heaven to ask for help.

Godfrey of Bouillion flew past, going faster than the eye could follow or the Pigeot flies, his Rapidash's flames blazing in the wind, with cross and sword raised above his head. Hugh was the first to join his battle-cry - "DEUS VUUUUUULT!"

Holy shit, this thread is still here.

>>11884064

Shouldn't the Persians use different kinds of the same Pokemon? I doubt both the Persians and the Romans would use the same basis for all of their Pokemon. The Romans might use a steel based Magnemite as it is most fitting for them but not for the Persians.

>>11883904
Although they were under Muslim control, they were fighting the Turks who controlled Jerusalem, Syria, and Asia Minor. During the First Crusade, the Egyptians actually captured Jerusalem from the Turks before the Crusaders, but didn't expect the Franks to break their agreement...

Where do gyms fit into this? Is it like a mini-battlefield, where you fight your way to the leader and destroy them?

>>11883795

Fortunately, this is untrue. Pokemon using Dig take double damage from Earthquake or Magnitude instead of evading it, and Fissure is also effective. Lock-On or Mind Reader will also track a digging Pokemon, allowing the next move to hit regardless. So the best defense against a Ground type? Other Ground types.

>>11884115
Maybe you mean ARCEUS VULT!

Arceus qui es in caelis, sanctificetur Nomen Tuum, adveniat Regnum Tuum, fiat voluntas Tua, sicut in caelo, et in terra.
Amen.

>>11884192
Even then, Dig is a two-turn move and straight-out weaker than Earthquake even when it hits. It's easily predicted--switch into a resist, a flying type or something with Levitate. If you have NONE OF THOSE, something's wrong.

>>11865370
No

They aren't Knights, they are Poke-PETA, generally wrecking stuff just for "Pokemon Equal Rights" or crap like that

The Kabbalah protects the secrets of the creatures of legend that rule reality.

>>11884228

City walls lack the ability to do this, however.

>>11884228
You're thinking Pokemon game rules and not reality.

They can destroy structures and attack anything on the surface, and not every Pokemon is flying or able to levitate.

>>11865521
wow, the anime backstory is pretty good.

The games only say "one day a human was killing pokemon with a sword until the pokemon hid and the dude was like "dude why are you hiding?' and they were like 'you're killing us' and the human threw his sword away and they lived in harmony

>>11884303
Of course I'm thinking game rules, considering there's a pokemon tabletop game.

You specified DIG AS A MOVE, not the Burrow capability, right? They're separate things, though one causes the other. The point stands, burrowing under and using Earthquake whether to do damage or create rough terrain is the better move.

>mfw this is the best thread I've seen in a while.
I love you /tg/

>>11884249
This strikes true fear in me.... Oh dear god, no.

Poke'thulhu!!

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn to catch'em all!

Arceus was born from nothing, not even chaos.
Arceus soon made Dialga, Palkia and then Giratina.

Dialga created time, Palkia created space and Giratina created anti-matter. And thus, the Universe was born.

Dialga, Palkia and Giratina began battling and as a result were banished to their individual realms by Arceus.

Arceus then created Groudon, Kyogre and Rayquaza. Groudon formed the huge celestial bodies known as planets and the trio chose one to inhabit with life. Arceus created the sun then shot off across the Universe to create all the many stars.

But he had learned from experience, so he tasked Rayquaza as the peace-keeper.

The trio set to work, with Groudon raising land violently, creating volcanoes and mountains, Kyogre creating seas where the land was not and Rayquaza making an atmosphere full of 'air'.

Sure enough, Kyogre's waters started to corrode Groudon's land and this angered him. The two battled, but Rayquaza broke it up and sent them deep under ground/water before returning out into the ozone layer.

Soon, Arceus returned. It tried to make life, but failed miserably, so it created Regigigas. Regigigas moved the continents with his bare hands, piecing them together like a puzzle.

When the final chunk of land was put into place, the world flourished. Grass and trees sprouted everywhere. Finally, the world was ready for life.
---

Pictured, Joan D'Arc

Bandits roam the forests and unpeopled places of Europe, striking fear with their Rattatas and other verminous monsters...the people huddle, terrified, in their homes, Houndooms and Ursarings sniffing at the walls.

A continent in darkness, lit only by the flames of war.

I want this to be my next tabletop.

>>11884174

The idea of a field where to tread was perilous is not unknown- where the least of a great lord's servants would challenge a wandering knight, and then the second-least, and so on. The most worthy would battle the lord of the land themselves, and victors would be rewarded for their skill. An (often quite comfy) captivity might be the fate of a defeated challenger, until or unless friends or fate provided a ransom.

To prevent knightly men of God from slaughtering each other by the score, the Church instituted formal rules of battle and chivalry. Tournament grounds where the lord of the land and his men-at-arms would practice (often fiercely regional and specific as to their breed and manner of creatures) were considered a matter of civilized men to sharpen their battle skills before God and with honor.

Challengers would often make pilgrimages to prove their worth, and victors would both leave with proper reward and a "Pilgrim's Badge"- usually a small pin, blessed by the Church and a miniature of the heraldry of the lord defeated by the challenger in honorable combat. To carry a badge you did not earn was considered a great sin, and penance often extended unto death itself.

Such blessings served to help calm the otherwise wild nature of beasts, meaning stronger and stronger ones would heed the bearer's commands as his wanderings brought him greater glory and victory before God and man.

To take a worthy's badges without cause was reason enough to be severed from the Church, as holy things should never be so defiled by unworthy hands. Priests, nobles (who are consecrated by God to rule) and worthies on their (or have completed) pilgrimage journey are the only ones who should even touch such things.

>>11883744

When the first examples of black powder came to the Europeans, the Italians were the first to make it...into toys.

Squadra Razzo, an Italian merchant organization that first rose to fame supplying nobles with sparkly toys and firecrackers soon found a darker purpose.

Run only by a shadowy figure known as "Giovanni", members of the merchantile organization delved into forbidden alchemy, strange explosive weapons, and fragile yet occasionally highly effective pieces of war machinery.

To supplement and fuel their strange experiments, the Razzos often steal exotic animals, set up dens of gambling, and other sinful and depraved enterprises. To Giovanni, all that will profit him and fuel his hidden plan is acceptable, success is the only measure of worth.

It is said that his only son wanders the pilgrimage trails, angry and a rake-thief, unknowing of his heritage.

Ursanello, the cliff-climbing great bears of Italy are a marvel to behold. As tall as men, they bear a halo-like golden ring on their chests, and are possessed of inhuman intelligence.

It is said that when a bear saw an angel perched upon a tall tree, watching over a church below to bestow a special blessing on the first brave enough to approach it.

The hungry beast climbed to the top to devour it- but only caught it's halo, which burned it with blessed radiance. The angel was amused that such a foolish beast had dared where an entire town of Christian folk had not, and bestowed God's blessing on the beast instead, making it cunning and strong, nimble beyond that of any common creature.

To this day, Ursanello's children are welcomed in any village- a village that shares it's treats with the little ones is often rewarded with Ursanello revealing hidden caches of food to starving peasants in times of great need. Those who treat one as a common bear or attack it's children are visited by wrath instead, both from Ursanello itself or the local commoners, who know how the creature came to be and fear God's anger for attacking one.

rolled 1, 4 = 5

>Return to thread
>See a bunch of 3rd and 4th gen stuff suddenly.
>Seems like school got out early today. hur hur hur

But really, lets not jump ahead of ourselves too much here.

I'm going open MS Paint and make some pokemans.

to get back to some of the mecanics of the game. couldn't the play character be controled and worked like a starting fighter type pokemon. That way, 'you' would level along with your pokemon, increasing in skill as you battle more.

and how would evolution of the pokemon work?

DWM was here, Pokemon is for fags.

>>11885157
/tg/ is making a Pokemon PnP game. Two Trainer classes, Martial Artist and Psychic, Can use pokemon moves and can even jump in and fight a pokemon themselves.

>>11885157
>and how would evolution of the pokemon work?
>Crusades
>Christian
>Evolution

THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS EVOLUTION YOU HERETIC!

>>11885157

A lot of Pokemon Tabletop Adventures works just fine with the suggested setting here.

1d4chan is down, but the beta rulebook is still up:

http://www.mediafire.com/?dqri2jr49swo97m

>>11885239

JUST AS THE CHILD STARTS ITS LIFE ON ALL FOUR, WALKS ON TWO AND FINALLY ENDS ITS LIFE ON THREE LEGS, A PIKACHU CAN BECOME A RAICHU!
GOD WILLED IT!

After the fall of Rome, both paganism and Christianity were widely embraced throughout Europe. Many fell in doubt and attempted to worship both the Pagan idols and the Lord, directly violating the first commandment. After their deaths, the Lord punished them for their sins by turning them into a mockery of His creatures. These creatures could fly wherever they wished, yet they were not free, for they were trapped in their own bodies, their souls unable to pass on. Now they roam the earth as angry spirits, attacking the weak out of spite.

It is said that the howling ghosts of men and fallen woodbeasts haunt the Drachenwald and great forests of Eastern Europe.

The locals call the least of these spirits "Gasts" and their kindred "Haunts". The Lord of these spirits has never been seen by any alive, though legend say that the weeping of children for a Fallen Mother gave birth to the mightiest of these dark spirits..

Little else is known, save that the locals adorn themselves with Lavender,in the belief that it wards these spirits off.

http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?t=123150

That's a month-long PTA game on the Penny Arcade forums, if you want to see what it looks like being played.

I stopped reading halfway through the thread, so I gotta ask, are you guys still trying to romhack this? Because it would work SO MUCH BETTER as a homebrew modification of PTA.

>>11885440
>romhack
>/tg/

>>11885458
First half of the thread was talking about romhacking.

>>11885440
>/tg/
>finishing a project

>>11885477
>Engine Heart
>Pokemon: Tabletop Adventures
Most projects get trapped in Limbo for eternity, but some DO bear fruit.

rolled 1, 5 = 6

>>11885440
I'm the only one really planning on working on a romhack.

Otherwise, the setting could easily be made into expansion/mod of PTA.

So this is our world with pokemon spliced into in parts. Some questions then.

When did this happen that the timelines diverged. Roman times. Dark Ages. Forever.

Have pokemon been common or are they all pant splittingly rare?

What elements of Pokemon have made it to our world. religion. Organisations?

Would common people know what a pokemon was?

Are there real animals still?

>>11885515
>When did this happen that the timelines diverged. Roman times. Dark Ages. Forever.
They've always been around but practical ways to capture them are new; previously, they could be tamed like animals, but they were very good at killing their tamers unless raised from hatchlings.

>Have pokemon been common or are they all pant splittingly rare?
I'd assume it'd be the middle-ground.

>What elements of Pokemon have made it to our world. religion. Organisations?
I don't entirely understand the question.

>Would common people know what a pokemon was?
Yes, but obtaining one is difficult, and a peasant isn't likely to know what a Darkrai is.

>Are there real animals still?
Duh.

>>11885567
Why would there be real animals? Wouldn't Pokemon have obliterated them all after a short amount of time?

>>11885622

The games and shows seem split on this. I believe the show has shown normal birds and such, but in the games the function of normal animals are taken by their pokemon counterparts.

Also, I'd think most normal people would just know the domesticated normals. Ratata are pest, pidgy are for sight seeing, etc. You might be unlucky to have a Pikachu out in your barn, but that's about it.

>>11885622
Two reasons:
1) So you can put more stuff in the environment. It's either "Yes there are real animals" or "Oh look, another Pidgey"
2) The "canon" Pokemon universe has real animals. They just avoid talking about them whenever possible.

This shit is stil ON? Omg

Fucking Dragons man.

rolled 5, 6 = 11

>>11885622
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Animals

>>11885515

>So this is our world with pokemon spliced into in parts. Some questions then.

>When did this happen that the timelines diverged. Roman times. Dark Ages. Forever.

The first recorded example of such "monsters" is roughly equivalent to the late Roman empire- that is, about the birth of Christ.

>Have pokemon been common or are they all pant splittingly rare?

Increasingly common, though not sufficient to extinct existing species.

>What elements of Pokemon have made it to our world. religion. Organisations?

A "Team Rocket" equivalent, anyway (along the manga lines rather than the comic-relief of the anime)

>Would common people know what a pokemon was?

Certainly, though they're regarded as exceptional beasts- like white stags or unicorns (thanks to Rapidashes, that's more common than you'd think...).

>Are there real animals still?

Plenty of them. The Pokemon population is only just getting used to inhabiting areas of high human populations, and there's plenty of room for "normal" species at this point.

Pokemon is the current scientific classification of supernatural beings

in the ancient world, they would have been ghosts, spirits, magical creatures, spirits, gods and so on

Motherfucking Poenixes Bro

Ancient Pokemon terrors that lurk in the deep

Pokemons have their on board.

Big Damn Sea Monsters

Instead of "pokemon" they are still referred to as "Pocket Monsters."

"Pokemon" is too Japanese-sounding. Prior to the discovery of apricorns, they were just "monsters."

I guess humans have to be more tough then real world humans tho to make this work without pokemon slaughtering everyone.

>>11885740
Kabutops are extinct, though. The only way to get one is to revive the remains (encased in stone) through either occult magic coming from Satan himself or a Holy ritual that can only be performed under the supervision of a member of the Church.

>>11885746

The RPG however is /tg/ territory, always has been.

>>11885793

Humans are quite capable of killing Pokemon, if they want to.

>>11885675
Hm, alright. It just seems like, thinking through it, that bears would be extinct when fighting for territory with an Ursaring...that, or they'd move to habitats that were completely unlike that of their species, in order to avoid the stronger competition.
>>11885709
Interesting article...thanks a lot! I noticed with the Pokedex entries, but wasn't entirely sure.

>>11885799
>occult magic
What you are talking about are psychic or ghost type pokemon, which are hunted by Inquisitors (Fire-Type Trainers) wherever the influence of the roman church is big enough.

>>11885622

Nah, we do not need the grim darkness of the pokeverse.
Normal animals and smaller pokemon would provide a "balance".

"A animal is a mere creature, it is rarely dangerous" The lecturing scholar turned 180 degrees and walked the other way way in his annoying habit of walking around while doing lectures. He then turned to the class: "How many of you have seen a Rattata?"
Half of the blessed children raised their hands high. Great teacher Minkoz noded. He then said: "A rattata is not dangerous compared to other holy pokemon, you will find them everywhere. But the difference of them and house rats is that they rip apart a man if its not just a feek weeks old. You will see many commoners having Rattas as loyal companies, they are quite common. However, sometimes they evolve, into a fearsome beast called a Raticate. It is larger, it can tear trough walls like paper, it can outrun a horse with ease. A skilled knight would tame a small pokemon like Rattata, and then train it and hone it until it evolves, and then get it blessed."
The class looked confused at their great teacher, but they did mostly understand the objective of todays lesson.

Next Thread:
Ancient Greek, the box of pandora has been opened and many animals are undergoing strange transformations sometimes into monsters that wield infernal powers.

>>11885799
They can live in underground caverns
like that one episode, where Gary was all Indiana Jones and shit

>>11885835
Oh, of course, but that doesn't mean that the Occult cannot be used by the less savory men of this Earth to free beings like Kabutops from their stone prisons.

Frankly I just love this idea. A world where raticates and bibarels are dangerous opponents but manageable with a quick hand and a good sword. But god help you if you come across a Lairon or Rhyhorn. And a Charizard is capable of burning down a city. Awesome.

>>11885867
of course

I think we've passed auto-sage.

New thread?

Have I told you the tale of St. Joseph and his loyal Rattata companion? 'Twas said it was of the greatest perchentage.

>>11885928
Please do. We need lore :P

>>11885928
Still got 70 or so posts to go. Autosage hits at 300.

>>11886048
Yeah, I mentioned it because the thread seemed dead and when I searched for the thread on page 0 and page 1 I couldn't find it; turned out that was because there was a post between me searching page 0 and me searching page 1.

Anyway, we should at least try to make the thread less dead.

>>11885907

Yep. Plenty of dragons in this world- Charizards, Gyrados, Salamence, Dragonite....never mind the legendaries.

It'd probably actually work better without most of the legendaries, anyway.

http://www.pokegirl.org/
Surprised this hasn't been posted yet. It usually shows up eventually in the grimdark Pokethreads.

>>11886219
wut

>>11886087

I can imagine the Legendaries getting thought as greater archangels and archdemons, actually. Things that most likely don't exist, but sure as fuck have whole doctrines based on them.

Giratina, especially in Origin Form, makes for a great shadow pagan demon, actually. The kind of thing you could imagine in the tomes of elderly monks that talk about the pagan regilions of the old Babylonians and their heather, demonologist practices... and how to bind pokémon to their heretic will, they would perfor foul rituals and call on the name of the the greatest of the Demons and right hand of Satan himself - Giratina the Chained, the Shadow of All Things, who God himself bound to the undersides of the very world for its many and unforgivable sins.

>>11886274
Giratina is definitely Satan's personal Brokemon.

>>11886274

By comparison, Dialga and Palkia would have to be watchful archangels, then - figures not unlike Michael, emissaries of God's wrath, spoken in reverence and pictured in many a mural battling the forces of evil.

I'll probably fuck up the link, but if so, just copy/paste it (and tell me what I did wrong, please); new thread:
>>/tr/1517945

The way I see it is any pokemon is near enough a horror already. A Gengar is something that wipes out a village and leaves only the bones strung up as a mocking warning. Darkrai is the God of Nightmares and literally eats your soul after trapping you in your dreams. Legendaries are practically Greater Deamon/Lesser God level entities.

>>11886530
Just noticed I tried to link to /tr/... Maybe this will work better:

>>/vp/1517945

Alright, so Pokemon Bronze doesn't work...maybe instead of metals or colors it's items. Pokemon Sword and Pokemon Shield?

>>11886724
You need three >
>>>/vp/1517945

Let's move forward in time to the Spanish Inquisition. You offer your neighbors Swinub for dinner to find out if they're Jewish or not. If they refuse to eat the Swinub, you report their asses to the local authority ASAP.

>>11886724
You need 3 for interboard links.

>>>/vp/1517945

>>11886795
>>11886800
Yeah, I just found that out. Never had to do an inter-board link before.

Thanks.

>>11886530

No good.

just going to leave this here

>>11887011
see
>>11886800
>>11886795

One thing I have to add is that, assuming this is rpg territory, I think a PC should have a decent ability/chance to stand against one of these pokemon. Who the hell wants to stock up on plate, shields, and protective items to get ripped in half by a fucking Rattata?

>>11887051
That's why we should mess with the combat rules in PTA to make it playable.

>>11887051

Indeed. On the other hand, going against a Charizard is likely to end with you never getting a cold again.

>>11887412

I think a regular, prepared human should treat a low-level, unevolved Pokemon much like any dangerous animal- with proper gear, capturable. With proper weapons, reasonably killable.

That is, you could run out there with a shield, leathers, and a mace and bash some Charmander's head in.

Try that with a Charmeleon, and it'd be like trying to kill one of those velociraptors from Jurassic Park, unless you've got plenty of friends to help.

Try that with a Charizard, and you're going to die as an ashy smear on the ground unless you've got a small army to help- and expect casualties, and hope to gawd you can ground the thing or have plenty of archers.

That being said, the ability to organize is humanity's defense- one Charizard may terrorize a village, but a small army of crossbow-armed troops will probably give it something to think about, and a ballista bolt would definitely ruin it's day.

rolled 4, 3 = 7

So I made a CHARMANDER.

>>11888841
That's a start.

Based on this, I assume?

Yea know I'd love to play in a game of Pokemon Tabletop Adventures but I don't know if anyone is running a game or not.

rolled 4, 5 = 9

>>11889334
Moreso based on this image.

>lanciant red

There's an online game on the Penny Arcade forums >>11885406 linked to. And I know there's occasional mentions on /tg/. Ask now and then here or on /vp/.

>>11889351
http://s4.zetaboards.com/Pokemon_Tabletop/site/

Just ask for one.

Also, these forums are now the OFFICIAL forums. I handed over the key's to the site to Stark himself.

>>11889546
>Rules receive updates every friday
WHEN THE FUCK DID THAT HAPPEN?

Where would this creature fit in? A temmptress demon of the Saracens maybe? Just curious.

>>11890077
>Gardevoir's name may be a combination of garde (French for "guard") and devoir (French for "duty"). This is reflected on its Pokédex data, which explains how Gardevoir will protect its Trainer even at the cost of its own life. Its Japanese name may be taken to mean さあ、ナイト saa, naito ("come, knight") or 'Sir Knight'.

No, Gardevoir is an honorable guardian of chaste women.

>>11890077

No, as a motherfucking knight.

>>11889636
When Beta came out.

Goody! She's always been a favorite, and a regular from back in the good old days. Speaking of which, the male partner gallade would be the equivalent of a holy warrior? God damn, but this thread makes me want to force friends into a tabletop of this.

>>11890115
Just ask around the #pokeymans channel on suptg's IRC. Everyone there plays PTA.

BUMP FOR GREAT JUSTICE!

>>11865811
Men of Three would work better as Italian/Renaissance era men. Just saying.

Although, MOTHERFUCKING DODRIOS is always awesome.

>>11890094
Or a skirmisher/berserker.

So, let's say you're a regular old non-trainer... what do you do when you run across a charziard?

Throw rocks at it until it leaves you alone? (it's super effective)

>>11895718
A peasant throwing rocks at a fire breathing dragon?

I really hope that peasant has a plan B.

>>11895718
>Put head between legs
AdvicePeasant.jpeg
>KISS ASS GOODBYE

This thread is still alive?

Awesome.

>>11890094

Yeah, Gardevoir and Gallade? The Faerie Queen's Knights, her Shields and Swords. The Seelie send young Ralts into the human realm to earn their spurs, and delight in being the companion to a human of chivalry.

If their companion should perish, the fey creatures often return to their lord or lady's family and ward them unto death, seeing that the role of protector has fallen to them in place of their once-master. These in turn often form a family allied to their noble's house, a bond that can persist for generations and centuries.

Being creatures of Faerie, cold iron is difficult for such creatures to damage, though they show no real allergy to the stuff. Gallades frequently master the martial arts and overcome their earlier troubles with iron, bending and crushing it in close combat with un-natural strength.

Sir Tristan would never be able to forget the horrors of that day. It was supposed to be a simple pilgrimage, seeking out heretics and devil worshipers, and letting them see the Holy Light of God. Together with Augustine, the three-headed steed of his order, his most loyal companion whom he has raised from a mere two-headed chick, he had gone to the villages outside the monastery which trained him, expecting nothing more than children failing to pray on the Sabbath out of foolishness, and old priests misinterpreting the Holy Scripture.

It was only forty miles before he understood why they sent him out with a sword and Augustine. Why they needed knights with training like his.

The people of the village had fallen under the sway of a witch. She was a foul old creature, toothless and haggard, but her belief in Satan and all the other devils gave her a supernatural strength. She brewed up strange potions to sway the village and tempt them from God, and flew through the skies at night, filling the sky with her horrific laughter.

When Sir Tristan went to confront her, he found her home, a shack constructed out of rotting timber and damp thatch and surrounded by numerous weeds. When he demanded she leave and repent her ways, she merely cackled and slowly walked out. Thinking that it would be easy, he let his guard down.

Then she reached in the ground, and pulled up a mandrake. The creature's foul screech knocked him from Augustine, leaving him paralyzed and unable to defend himself. Augustine was confused, his heads darting about, trying to figure out what was going on. The foul hag issued commands in some black tongue, a perversion of the Right and Holy Latin he learned, and her beast sprung into action. It leaped on Augustine, planting tendrils and sapping his very life while he struggled weakly.

Finally standing up, Sir Tristan fumbled his blade from the scabbard. Seeing that he was up, the witch commanded her beast to attack him, and he found himself covered in some foul poison. As it sapped his life, he took his blade to the woman, stopping her from commanding the foul beast. She died with curses on her lips, condemning Tristan and Augustine to Hell.

Barely able to stand, Tristan watched as his loyal companion, barely able to move, took a desperate lunge at the mandrake. With his last ounce of strength, the three-headed bird spitted the creature on its beak, ripping it apart and silencing its cries.

Sir Tristan broke down and wept. He had succeeded, but his mount lay dying, and he was poisoned. Night approached fast, and if he could not make it to a Church in time, surely the beasts of this forest would claim him. Stroking Augustine's head, he prayed to God for an answer...........

Bump for the Poke-crusaders.

>>11890094
>>11896344
With Kirlia squires assiting the knights or acting as men-at-arms in battle.

Would gardevoir knights be noble landowner knights or religious order monk knights?

For some reason I see Gardevoirs as being Teutonic Knights.

bump for poke-awesome

I'd love a Mount&Blade pokemon mod.
Just think about it.
Mount&Blade with pokemon.
Goddamn just fucking think about it!

Mont&Pokeball, you start a young ambitious man and end with an army of hundreds of battle-hardened men and pokemon, ready to conquer castles and make kingdom fall.

A Pokemon: Total War would be fine too.
Just think of the war-hounds and war-pigs and war-elephants (not to speak of generic mounts like horses and camels), make it more common and make it nastier.

>>11897494
Would I have to bring an army of other trainers to field an army of pokemon soldiers?

Could I not just pump up my own PokemonTrainer skill and field a huge army of pokemon myself?

Oh sure, I'd get named NPCs in my party and they'd have their own themed pokemons, but most of the work would be done by pokemon under my direct control.

>For some reason I see Gardevoirs as being Teutonic Knights.

Gardevoirs haet Slavs?

>>11897555
Gardevoirs hate HERESY.

Crusading Knights were actually very religiously tollerant, simply because they had to employ people from nearly every religion to make crusades work. Orthodox Byzantine spearmen, muslim Turkish javelinmen, kurdish Archers, even Jewish caravan teamsters. The short lived crusader kingdoms were ironically very secular by necessity, even though they were in theory the military force of the Catholic Church.

Pegans didn't contribute to the crusades so they were fair targets.

So yeah. Gardevoirs haet slavs.

>>11897538
You can never control more than 6 at a time, and only you and the other "heroes" would have that many, the basic unic would consists of bands of men and pokemon, each man his own. Stronger units would have two, maybe one as a mount and one as a support, elite units would have three or four.

There would still be non trainer soldiers, you could choose not to use pokemons at all and slaughter those fucking beasts with cold steel and guts only.
It would be tough when you face a large army with fully evolved ones, but even a charizard must fall to a band of skilled crossbowmen.

>>11897665
So I can't make an all Gardevoir / Kirlia army?

Bah! I say.

>>11897780

Sure you could. But it'd have to be "squads" of 1 human with a six-Pokemon set under their control.

Black/White has the ability to fight with three at once, though apparently you won't be able to control all three each "turn". Six would probably be nearly uncontrollable from a commander's point of view, and two is probably the limit for perfect control. Knights would quite likely have squires with less-evolved and trained companions- so a knight might well have a Rapidash or Tauros for a mount, a Gallade for a "shield-brother" and their squire a Ponyta and a Ralts or Kirlia instead.

Not to say that a non-directly-controlled one wouldn't be effective. Just not as well co-ordinated.

>>11899382
>Black/White has the ability to fight with three at once, though apparently you won't be able to control all three each "turn".
Stop confusing triple battles with rotation battles, damn it.

There are going to be triple battles, they will be like double battles but with three Pokemon and an element of strategy in party order (Pokemon the right can't hit Pokemon the left and vice versa; only Pokemon in the middle can hit all three opposing Pokemon).

Rotation battles are something else ENTIRELY.

What about Blaziken's? Would they be on the Byzantium side as war beasts, or something like that?

>>11900772
Training with knights, honing their physical fighting abilities while mastering their powers over the flames that will purge the unclean heretics.

>>11900972
Purging Flame eh?
They'd prolly be seen as the manifestations of God's Wrath itself.