>Lungi airport
Oh boy, Wikipedia time
>coastal town
>SIERRA LEONE

oh
shit

Background: Our operations are winding down in Liberia, Moroccan army units have seized control of vital sectors of the city, and are continuing their push supported by French Special Forces detachments. Under our air cover, they have successfully beaten back most armed resistance, and will most likely have secured the entire capital within six days.
We have continued our search for Copernicus, after action analysis has show that the aircraft was shot down, however we have not located any crew members or debris. The WSO of Griffon One has been recovered, but we doubt he'll ever walk again. Griffon One's pilot did not survive ejection. Griffon Two's crew remains missing in action. French Foreign Legion paras are currently searching the city independently of the main troops on their own initiative.

Our operations bureau has located the source of the aircraft that jumped us on your last mission. I know you've been through a lot, so I've been instructed to tell you that what follows has been approved at the highest level by the company. Background Asian Risk Solutions, or BARS, has established a FOB in Sierra Leone, and struck at us during our last mission with advanced Chinese technology. We suspect that the Chinese wanted a field test, and hired BARS to organize a little tech demo, with us playing the part of the patsies. Naturally we don't approve of this move on the part of BARS, and the board has voted to mount a punitive expedition.

And I thought to go to sleep as I have to move tomorrow...

FUCK YEAR

I do wish I hadn't just stayed up for 30 hours straight, though.

The mission plan is simple, strike hard, strike fast, and blow the majority of Lungi airfield to pieces before the BARS personnel can respond in force. Following this initial strike, our Special Operations Group (Snakebite) will execute a LALO jump over the airfield, and begin a sweep of the facilities, and will terminate BARS presence on the airfield. It is highly likely some BARS personnel will attempt to escape, you may engage if you are able, but priority is to support Snakebite.
Intelligence has also identified that the mercenaries are staying on the North Eastern corner of Tassos Island, away from the crime of Freetown. Hourly shuttles connect the camp (designated Op Point Baker) with the airport. The camp has been designated a secondary target, and appears to be lightly defended.
This won't be easy, so we've mobilized all BlackFlag squadrons that were available, and have placed them under your control for this operation. I'm sure you are aware of your comrades, Jaeger is available for air to air support, Badger for close air, and Demon for strike ops and SEAD. Full support is being provided at no charge to your squadron account. Don't hold back, give those bastards a bloody nose and send a message. Wheels up at 0500. That is all.

HUMINT: None
ELINT: Records indicate that our operation in Liberia drained the majority of BARS's long range SAM capability, however they retain a heavy defensive force. SEAD is advisable. Air units consist mainly of old Chinese license built copies of soviet era aircraft.
SATINT: Airfield defended by SA-8, ZSU-23, and 2S6 equivalents. 57Mm AA cannons located near Baker.

Threat Assessment: High. BARS is composed of highly trained ex-military operatives, utilizing modern technology. They know we're looking for blood, and they'll be ready.

ROE: Avoid engaging non-BARS units if possible, however, the board has designated this operation as priority black, proceed as required to accomplish the objectives.

Goddamn! THIS IS AWESOME!

>>11462513
>F5 F5 F5 F5

Same here

God dammit just checked the coords on Google Maps.

WHAT THE FUCK STEVE

>>11462527
Whoa. So you're not only the top dogs of your company now, but your company is going to outright exterminate a competitor?

Shit's gonna get fun.

Also, er... does anyone have the forum adress? I missed the last thread, it seems, and the archives don't appear to have it. I think.

I missed these threads! This sounds like it's going to go epically bad for op, although looking at the forces he has under his control...

How the hell are you going to use all those assets?

>>11462687
http://s1.zetaboards.com/PlanesAndMercs/index/

>>11462687
They have fucked with our shit way too many times. And they helped the Liberians.

Cue song.

>>11462621

Erm...What is this? I think it's called Planes and Mercs, but that's all I know about it.

>>11462658
Where do they point too? I suck at coordinates.

>>11462548
Ah. So those chinese telephone poles that splashed Copernicus were from BARS? That puts things into a much closer perspective.

I think for this one, you want to leave most of the AtG and SEAD or whatever to the other squadrons.

Grab the meanest, most advanced planes you can and be prepared for ACE COMBAT

>>11462712
This.

>>11462703
OP Again is a player who didn't know shit about planes, came to /tg/ for help, we in turn found out he was playing an RPG where he is a pilot in a merc air force.
We dismissed it as stupid.
Then some hardcore jetnuts and fligh/tg/uys thought the idea was cool, and began making inquiries. Soon we had a general system for tabletop air combat, and an RPG system. The OP began writing out mission debriefs, and we all began to gaze in wonder at his GM, some guy named "Steve" who is most likely a Canadian Intelligence Operative with a thing for planes and a mind that is dark and shady. The missions generally have a "Steve Factor" in them, and we are in agreement that the guy is probably one of the greates GMs of all time.

Long Story short, I generally hide all /tg/ threads sooner or later, but these ones stay open, and keep me up into the morning, waiting for updates.

>>11462797
HOLY FUCK! Is that an actual encampment on an Island?

Goddamn it Steve!

>ROE: Avoid engaging non-BARS units if possible, however, the board has designated this operation as priority black, proceed as required to accomplish the objectives.
>Priority Black

I love military-esque shit like this.

>>11462825
Pretty much everything steve mentions is real (geographically at least).

As for the actual mission, the best bet would be to roll in and turn the runway to scrap before the planes can launch. Of course the odds of that working out is slim to not gonna fucking happen.

>>11462864
I find it amusing to imagine the BlackFlag board of directors sitting around a table in some expensive office somewhere discussing in thinly-veiled socioeconomic metaphor just how badly they intend to fuck up BARS

I'd suggest getting some serious EWS going on. Like, say, an Aardvark full of ECMPs would be great.

;_;

>>11462871
Dude, not just geography...

http://www.backgroundasia.com/

>>11462884
"We are shifting to a new operational paradigm in which we project the Q3 profitability of BARS will decline in direct proportion to our expenditure at this junction. Now, if you'll turn to page thirty seven of your briefing documents, you'll note that BARS director Asmai Lokodi has a daughter attending Willowbrook Finishing School. We believe a preemptive move into this personal sphere will provide significant capital impetus for our venture, provided we are willing to accept certain moral vagaries to pass by the wayside."

>>11462871
Somehow I'm anticipating the ground-to-air to be the biggest hurdle, rather than the possible chinkwork buckets they'd be flying. They sent Chengdu's at fourth genners in the last mission, afterall.

Of course, it might be that the chinks have a secondary strip with the REAL air assets somewhere nearby, and that the current intelligence is of the same sort what AirScan had when they tried to take out the Vengeance, and that the REAL live fire tests haven't even started yet...

Yeah. Bring everyone and everything you can on this one. Without going into the negatives, of course~

>>11462948
Oh boy. Let's hope the FFL don't find out.

On a semi-related note OP, are your team planning on getting some new better planes for this mission? I have a feeling you'll need them.

>>11462905
Well I'll be damned.

Ok, op, see if you can get a rundown of all of the airframes your fellow flights will be using, first, that way you can plan the op with the capabilites of the aircraft in mind

>>11462948
All I can picture is some French Dudes roaring up in jeeps/land rovers wearing full combat gear and storming a girls finishing school in the most intense panty raid ever undertaken by a special ops group.

>>11462967
>that the current intelligence is of the same sort what AirScan had when they tried to take out the Vengeance

Oh lawdy, that was awesome. For everything they achieved, those CIA-funded asshats still managed to land not a single hit on the carrier.

And the Black Aces brought down an F-15. A motherfucking Eagle.

AND AN AMRAAM

WITH CANNON FIRE

>>11463005
It'd be hilarious if they played it off like a game and had a chat with the local authorities.

Just waving it in BARS' CEO's face that, yes, we can and we will.

>>11463007
I'm hoping that was the BlackFlag Intel guys getting their shit right for once to help out OP and apologize for past screw ups. Good trap, high risk, high reward.

>>11462905
>>11462979
How does Steve find these sketchy blackops/PMC guys?

>>11463007


Don't forget downing a goddamn Tu-22 with cannon.

Op, in addition to getting the airframes available, you might want to think about seeing if any of the wings have a bomber in storage, like Airscan had. That might be a big bonus for your op planning.

>>11463036
I'm not sure how a guy dressed like this will play anything off as just a game

>>11463067
Have them "assault" the school waving NERF guns.

>>11462948
I can visualize it. Old money-born, West Point-graduate retired cold warriors playing their pet wargames in comfortable private lounges in gentlemen's clubs from Washington, London, Paris, everyone on first-name terms with presidents future and past, and all the right senators and governors... cigar smoke and XO cognac, or four-figure callgirls and cocaine, whichever suits the mood that day.

>>11463094
It's only scary because it smacks of truth.

Damn, anyone have archive links to the last two or three missions? Last thread I caught was the one with him detailing how they were going to FUCK UP Liberia

As a sidenote, can someone update the 1d4chan page with each players kills?

I think the list is getting pretty fucking long at this point.

>>11463122
http://s1.zetaboards.com/PlanesAndMercs/forum/1528484/
I posted all of the missions there (not the archive links though)

>>11463053
>>11462994
Yeah, I think Steve is still building everything, but I already replied to the briefing email asking for information about what the other Squadrons fly/have available.

On the plus side, I have enough cash to upgrade!

>>11463137
Is it just me, or should the current mission be number 16? Aren't we missing the "I'm in ur base, stealin ur Falcons"-mission? AKA. the prince's rescue.

>>11463223
I noticed that and fixed it, thought I had posted the last one there.

>>11463203
Any potential buys you're considering?
Pic totally not related at all.

>>11463223
>in ur base stealin ur Falcon
That was just...there aren't words.

>>11463245
Hooray!

>>11463283
Love me some Fishbed!

>>11463203
upgrade from a bug?

I'm not really sure what else you can upgrade to. Maybe a super-bug or the like, but you're already comfortably fourth gen.

>>11463223
Grand Theft Falcon.

We desperately need some drawfagging from our resident drawfags. The early threads generated some awesome shit.

How long is the Vengeance going to be sticking around for once this mission arc is over?

If it's going to be a permanent fixture then looking for something carrier capable may be a good idea.

>>11463306
>upgrade from a Hornet
>Super Hornet
Holy fuck yes. No reason not to and plenty in favour.

Also a Rafale M would...oh wait.

Okay well we just need an Eagle or something similar.

Then again, if you're Twenty Minutes Into The Future, there's no reason you couldn't maybe pick up a military-ready Su-37 or (heaven forbid) an MKI or a PAK-FA or something.

GET A MIRAGE OP! If Ace Combat has taught me anything, it is that the Mirage is an all around ass kicker.

>>11463203
Do you have enough for an F-15E? as it can carry an unholy amount of ordinance.

I can't seem to find the picture with the F-15 carrying a whole shit ton of cluster bombs.

Well I am just hoping the chinese did not sell BARS these little birds.
Picture is related. it is the JF-17, something of an chinese/Pakistan made F-16 with alot lower pricetag that even PMCs can afford

>>11463364
The Rafale is carrier-capable, the Hornet and the Superbug are also, as are many many 4+ Gen aircraft. In fact, the F-15 is the only one I can think of offhand that doesn't have a carrier variant.

She's just a big fat heavyweight bitch, sadly.

Jeesh, well past one in the morning again. And I barely got to see the thread start off!

Well, at least there'll be the debrief soon. Good luck, OP.

Hah, its definitely been too long since the last thread.

So OP, you're supporting a para-drop raid on an airstrip, eh? One of your teammates should probably run a full AA package to shoot down any planes that get off the strip and the reinforcements that surely will show up. Also, load up on some radar seekers for the inevitable SAM's. Don't know if you should take a heli for CAS or if you're up for shelling out for an A-10 or some other dedicated CAS plane.

If I can suggest the Strike Eagle? It may not be current gen, but it was made to be a Joint Strike fighter and use almost any weapon. Don't know if it's Carrier Capable though off hand.

>>11463406
F-15N Sea eagle testbed, never produced.

Get an F-14 SE and boeing will love you forever

No going back to the roots and picking the most suitable wild weasel frame imaginable?

>>11463450
It's not. The only carrier-capable Eagle variant was cancelled.

The Strike Eagle IS a damn fine bird, though. That lady can flatten anything.

>>11463451
I hurred my durr, F-15SE Silent eagle.
appropriate captcha: have crazier

>>11463464
Definitely! Not sure why you posted a Thud though.

>>11463469
They had a working F-15N, but the navy passed it up in favor of the F-14

>dedicated AtA
Su-37 or MKI. Or a Raptor. Or an F-15C.

>CAS
Use the other squadrons. They're specialists.
The Black Aces are specialists at DEFYING THE ODDS AND SCREWING THE RULES

Well there is one requirement for op again's plane it must be a two seater as his RIO has saved his ass more times than we can count.

>>11463509
>F-14
It was good enough for the UN Spacy.

>>11463515
Superbug.

Seriously, not even a question. Straight-out upgrade from a fine plane to a DAMN fine plane. And he can stick some ECMPs on it and spoof the shit out of those Chinese bastards.

>>11463515
Every good pilot listens to his RIO.

>>11463512
>specialists

Don't forget napalm. They're damn fine at napalm.

I, personally, think the OP is going to get a Fullback. Don't ask why, but I just think he does..

>>11463587
Actually, with the Soviets fat and happy, I think they'd gladly let op buy some at a discount.

Man, I missed the start of another.

Also, holy shit. Do. Not. Piss off Blackflag.

>>11463464
It's old, yeah, but wasn't it one of the first proper SEAD birds around though?

I'm just enamored with the whole concept of parading right into the enemy's air defence network.

Plus the wild weasel motto of "you gotta be shitting me" is just quality.

>>11463557
And CRITICAL MISS.

>>11463587
The Fullback would be a nice buy, but a Super Hornet is probably a safer bet. Fullback's MUCH more a support plane and fits into a narrower niche.

>>11463605
>Actually, with the Soviets fat and happy
>the Soviets fat and happy
>the Soviets

>>11463624
Yeah.

Corporate Motto: Eye for an Eye is for Pussies. You take our Eye, we'll fuck your kid sister, kill your parents, rape your dog, break your legs, and force you to watch the view 24/7.

So we are all in agreement on him getting a two seater but so far its seems to be between the F-15E, EA-18G, and the SU-34.

>>11463633

How's the Fullback a support plane? AFAIK, isn't it just a Flanker with added AtG capabilities? And a toilet?

>>11463644
That's a pretty long corporate motto.

I still hope Baron snags an eagle.

Seems more German to me than a Russian bird.

>>11463605
>Soviet discounts
Terminator.

Seriously. If Ace Combat has taught us ANYTHING it should be that nothing tops the Terminator in a dogfight.

Except the Berkut. But that's not even a plane.

Unless Steve okays it, of course.

>>11463625
>This was the natural response of an educated man, a veteran EWO on B-52s and the like, upon learning that he was to fly back seat to a self-absorbed fighter pilot while acting as flypaper for enemy SAMs

This violates one of the core rules of combat flying...
“Never fly in the same cockpit with someone braver than you.”

>>11463633
>>11463557
Are you guys forgetting about the WAR CRIMES again, or are you just passing it as a given?

>>11463678
Actually, it's more like a miniature Bomber. It's meant for long-range bombing missions, hence the FUCKING KITCHEN BEHIND THE COCKPIT.

It's basically a scaled-down B-2, at least in terms of size and function. Just not so ludicrously hi tech.

>>11463702
With the amount of ordnance they sling, it seems entirely possible that the odd school/apartment block takes a mk82. Flying over populated areas doesn't help.

>>11463702
Hey now, the war crimes were always perpetrated within perfectly legitimate situations due to lack of perfect intel.

>>11463707
It's an SU-24 replacement, a light strike bomber. (A B-2 is more of a strategic bomber)

>>11463707
I would say that a F-111 or B-1 would be closer. I mean the damm thing is not stealth plane

>>11463742

Except this bomber still has full AtA capability.

Sukhoi, how's the Fullback perform in a dogfight?

>>11463689
Well, all I can say that the weasel in the shoulder patch looks like it'd gone two weeks without sleep and high on speed for a reason.

The weasel, you see, isn't as much "wild" as it is "downright wrong in it's rabid little head".

>captcha: how heresy
... huh.

>>11463742
Oh hey, was wondering when you'd show up.

Please help me explain why the OP should be grabbing himself a Superbug ASAP instead of dicking about with Eagles?

Also the Su-37 Terminator for dedicated air intercept.

>>11463758
Okay, I picked a bad example. So sue me.

>>11463764
Depends on whether it is carrying any ordnance. If it has AtA stuff mounted, it should do fairly well, but it isn't designed with that in mind. I'd have to go look up wing loading and turn rates for a deeper analysis, but on the surface, it has the flankers generally good handling, but high bleed off speed. When coupled with heavier weight, that means it won't be as good as your Flanker-Bs in a turning contest.

>>11463764
No data. But it has a very high wing loading of 629 kg/m^2. Compare that to the Su-27's 371 kg/m^2 or the F-15Cs 358 kg/m^2.

A turn fighter this bird isn't.

Thrust to weight is also bad for a fighter, at 0.68. Su-27 does 1.09, F-15C does 1.3 with newer engines, so a real fighter will leave the Su-34 in the dust when it comes to vertical maneuvers.

>>11463781
Well, the Bug can operate off a carrier, but the Strike Eagle carries a lot more firepower.

It really depends on what you are looking for. The Carrier Ops part might be important in the future, so I would be thinking about that, but I can't ignore the brute force of the Eagle's powerplant.

Ok they are gonna need anti-runway ordinance and lots of naplam or cluster munitions for encampment at Baker

>>11463911
Well if OP keeps either the Phantom or the F-18 there he would still have an option for carrier ops.

>>11463911
Here's a truly wacky idea.

Co-opt with someone in another squadron who's in need of a new plane. Get BOTH and let the other guy borrow whichever you aren't using.

sure is /k/ in here.

>>11463911
Oh, if OP had the money, I'd suggest getting both. Strike Eagle for ops where they have an airport, Superbug for Carrier Ops

It definitely never hurts to have a carrier capable bird.

Though MAS me wonder why it bothered to track if a plane is carrier capable.

>>11463953
Phantom is on the bottom of the Atlantic in little pieces.

>>11463966
Your point?

I like the F-15 because it has a precedent for doing weird shit to the airframe.

Since we're running off a strip this time, I suggest the Strike Eagle. And maybe save up for a Bug later.

Still recommending that SOMEONE in the squadron needs a damned Terminator or something. They're going to need an all-out dedicated dogfighting beast.

>>11464002
They do have a Rafale...

>>11463953

OP's phantom was blown up a few missions back.

>>11464013
That's a multirole bird. Granted, it's proven its mustard against a Tupolev, F-16s, F-14s and even F-15s, but it's not a totally balls-to-the-wall crazy dogfighting murder machine.

God dammit, I want a Berkut.

>>11464013
That had to make an emergency landing in enemy territory sadly.

>>11464002

Hugs has his MKI, Judge has his Fulcrum.

>>11464013

Rafale is either still on the UN airstrip in Liberia or in several pieces undergoing forensic analysis.

>>11463998
Ahem...

No one flying a Hind or anything?

>>11464045
>MKI
PROBLEM SOLVEDO

Might still want to stuff some Israeli shenanigans in it just for extra added rape.

>>11463944
A nice big fat Fuel Air Bomb should do baker nicely, maybe sprinkle some napalm on afterwords for seasoning.

I would roll with a big pile of cluster munitions to fuck up the runway right off, that would allow the assembled wings to be a little more pragmatic in dealing with the rest of the ground targets, rather than facing the clock of BARS getting their birds in the air.

>>11464039
>>11464045
Based on the brief, sounds like OP's group owns the UN airfield now. And Hugs does have the MKI as well!

If I had a hot girlfriend I would let Steve have sex with her to be in his group and play this game.

>>11464053
sup?

I still think this is all bullshit, ever since they wrecked the Royal Navy and all the Sea Harriers in the biggest bullshit ever.

>>11464013
...Which isn't allout dedicated AtA platform more of something allrounder, and in that note so is Typhoon.

Western philosophy is to make their planes all-capable. Russians seem to trust for "One plane,One job" style.

A-10 seems to be the notable exception to this rule and even that the Airfoce has been trying to replace with all-rounder

>>11464108
Flankers can do multi-role, and the Fulcrum is pretty much a multirole bird now that it has its newest iteration

>>11464106
Yes, because outfighting subsonic ground pounder jets without cannons or radars is really improbable.

In a stand up fight the AV-8 series is complete shite.

>>11464106

That was hardly a stunning victory for the Black Aces. They lost a good third to half of what they were protecting.

Besides, what do you expect heavily laden AtG Harriers to do against missile spam? The Brits really dropped the ball on that mission and didn't realize BlackFlag knew they were coming. And even then they managed to do a lot of damage.

>>11464108
Trying, and then the army bitches so they stop for a few years.

>>11464074
Better idea.

Throw the obvious Strike Eagle attack, have it loiter threateningly while dropping AGMs at the airport.

Then hit Baker with CRUISE MISSILE OUT OF NOWHERE

we just have to hope that they don't have any more of these four hidden

>>11464164
You don't want them to have time to get their pilots on the road before you take out baker.

Maybe use a low-flying terrain following missile to take out baker at the same time the strikes on the airfield starts.

>>11464124
I know but they still rely the Su-25/28s and Su-34 for mudmoving.

Flankers and Fulcrums in russian doctrine are to engage other planes and make sure the mudmovers get to their target without any problems

>>11464154
>and even then
Yeah, that mission proved that no matter how many Harriers they down, BlackFlag simply cannot go pissing off real modern military forces.

>>11464108
I was just thinking further on the SEAD angle, and it struck me that the Aces seem to mix roles a lot, constantly. Only the Aardvark seemed to be a one-trick pony. Which might really have been ideal, in a sense, that when air threats appear, there's no-one left to dedicatedly root around in case there's evil chinamen intending to surprise buttsex the AWACS bird with a telephone pole. To pose a crude example.

Then again, their ops seem so constantly mutating on the run that anything not at least a little furball-survivable would have led to a similar end that came to Sandy.

op, looking at SOLELY the roster of additional Blackflag flights available, I'd say have Demon flight load solely for SEAD, Badger for CAS along with runway cratering munitions, and Jaeger for overwatch, which leaves you and the Black Aces free to do whatever the fuck you feel like.

>>11464183

Hmmm, can Blackflag get and launch a cruise missile from somewhere maybe?

>>11464183
>low-flying terrain following missile
You mean a cruise missile.

And yes, you're right, a simultaneous strike would be much better. I doubt that BARS wouldn't see it coming, though.

You know what would be better? One of those ramjet-powered supersonic cruises that AirScan lobbed at the Vengeance.

>>11464212

Air-launched munitions can be launched from some of OP's flight, however their effectiveness against a soft target like this may not be very good.

>>11464227
Those dropped from Tupolevs...

>>11464241


Well, we know Blackflag has some big Russian Transports. What were they again?

>>11464241
There's a surface-launched variant.

Like, say, from a carrier.

I just wonder if Russia has some sort of mobile launch platform for the damn thing that they could set up at Spriggs Payne and just fire the damn thing off.

>>11464227

You need a Badger for Kitchens OR Kickbacks, IIRC, and unless Badger or Demon flights have one, I don't think thats gonna happen.

>>11464227
Something like the BrahMos?

>>11464257

*Blinder/Backfire

Sorry, I've got that goddamn song in my head.

>>11464227
Out of curiosity, what do you think are the odds that instead of completely abandoning the zone, AirScan salvaged a little by subcontracting their assets in the area to BARS? They propably had a negotiation channel open while they operated under the same "employer", so... I wonder if Baron and the fellas are going to have S-300's coming from below, and Eagles and Falcons from above?

This mission just screams "BOSS FIGHT" to my ears.

>>11464258
Not QUITE that insane, good sir.

>>11464264
BADGER BADGER BADGER BADGER BADGER BADGER BADGER

>>11464258
or how about the P-500 Bazalt or the P-700 Granit they are also ship launched supersonic cruise missiles

>>11464297
I should hope not. I doubt the CIA would want anything to do with The People's Liberated Republican Republic of Democratic Chinaland Republic.

On an unrelated note, I wish half of all pilots were that attractive.

>>11464304
MUSHROOM MUSHROOM?

>>11462797
The layout of that is just asking for one simple pass and a few tanks of napalm. OP should try going for it.

That just guarantees that there'll be AAA a-plenty. Better to leave it to something like a flying bomblet dispenser.

Do those exist?

>>11464360

Thats what steve WANTS!

...

Are the napalm-dispensing cruise missiles available?

Hold the phone folks Lungi is an international airport which mean there shall be plenty of commercial aircraft in the area meaning we can sneak a bomber or a few flights in as scheduled flights with proper transponders.

>>11464410
You can get cruise missiles with bomblet dispensers, sure.
Put in anti-personal bomblets, set some to airburst and the rest to delayed-action or vibration triggers.
That's fun to clean up.

>>11464437
Fuck yes. That was the best idea ever and still is.

But when you say "bomber" I'm thinking OP's new Strike Eagle. We'd rather have ATGMs dropped on the airport than shit like craterbombs and napalm, right? Because we're not stupid.

>>11464360
Durandalls and some cluster ammo for area denial will do the trick for the AF to take it out and then some rockets or iron bombs if the ground elements need fire support.

All and all this sounds like just more difficult version of the mission OP and his group played when they started the campaing.

>>11464466

The airport runway NEEDS to die, therefore, we need Durandals and/or an equivalent.

That way, the skies remain clear.

Don't forget a metric shitton of HARMs

>>11464463
Now this sounds like an excellent idea for the Baker strike. No chance of civilian casualties so we can just go fucking medieval on it.

Send TWO of those, then hit it with long-range ATGM volleys. Then rockets.

JUST IN CASE

>>11464466
I think a big ugly fat fuck with a 747 transponder would be lulls.

Or a C-130 pushing a MOAB out the back. as it flies over.

>>11464504

MOABs are US-only, I think.

Get a daisy cutter instead.

The sword of air, to strike down the path of the enemy?

>>11464504
ATC will be able to identify the type a couple of miles out. Any slow movers will be toast if there's any AA around.

>>11464466
I was speaking of a bomber or a few aircraft flying close enough together to give the same radar cross section as an airliner.

>>11464497
>>11464504
>>11464523
Good lord, you guys are truly obsessed with committing as many war crimes as possible.

>vericode: Pokémon gulags
Okay what the shit, I just HAD to point this one out.

>>11464536
1 F-15E, 1 Rafale and 1 MKI should make a pretty decent Jumbo.

>>11464542

Welcome to Planes & Mercs, ONE WAR CRIME PER SORTIE, OR YOUR MONEY BACK!

>>11464437
That trick works once, the brief states BARS isn't crewed by Somalis. They'd have a CAP and would definitely investigate any flights.

>>11464536
The reason I say this is BARS will most certainly have someone watching the radar in the control tower

>>11464579
>Somalis

Oh good god, those were horrible missions. Horribly funny, that is.

I'd caution against any lingering munitions such as mine bomblets or napalm. Remember, they have SpecOps jumping in after the raid to mop up anyone still alive in the facilities. I say just crater the runway then linger with a chopper or something to support the team on the ground while everyone else watches the skies for any incoming reinforcements.

>>11464613

You think that Antonov is still burning?

>>11464579
...And you can be they have moles inside BlackFlag who will tip off an incoming raid to one of their facilities in the region. So they will be ready for a fight,the only would be how much do they know and how long beforehand

>>11464613
There only was one of them I think... But yeah, what a fantastic mission that was!

HUGS MISSES! AND SCORES!

/Not ashamed to say I have dreamed of planes and mercs, like actually sleep dream.

>>11464579
I would be disappointed if they didn't but it may allow the flights to get closer before the are found out.

>>11464624

No choppers, and they've got a whole FLIGHT of Blackflag pilots who specialize in CAS.

>>11464536
Doesn't matter against civilian radar, those things are pretty much transponder-only.

That raises the question: Could you fix up a Mode-C transponder so that it missreports the altitude?
ATC almost never has height finders, you could probably exploit this to fake an approach profile, then use the extra energy to run the last few miles.

>>11464624
Timing a chopper to get there at the same time as jets would give ops an aneurysm.

I hate to crap on the planning (who am i kidding, I love it) but what large civilian airliner is going to be flying out of Liberia after the country got the snot kicked out of it?

So I guess the consensus so far is that OP should grab an Eagle and go for a Completely-Out-Of-Fuck-Nowhere cruise missile strike on Baker, simultaneous with the airport attack.

This good idea?

>>11464667


You don't file a flightplan that says you're COMING from Liberia!

Come on, man, at least TRY and think like a proper mercenary.

>>11464667
Call it a humanitarian mission. Pretend you are a privately chartered transport craft trying to get out some civilians.

>>11464691
>>11464691
HELL NO! Pull some reverse Psychology. File a Flightplan saying you are a Group of Mercenaries coming to bomb the shit out of the airfield.

>>11464709

No, hack the flightplan database and alter it so the UN aircraft are the ones that look like mercs!

Still the best plan ever made.

>>11464667
True but what about the smaller airliners there are bound to be people runing from Liberia.

>>11464709
>>11464733
Or just have the Eagle come in blatantly obvious. That'll fuck them up. Low and slow, but not stealthy, no response to traffic control.

And then suddenly, supersonic cruise missile out of nowhere. Followed by a Rafale, an MKI and a (I forget) popping out from underneath commercial flights.

>>11464780

Judge flies a Fulcrum, buddy.

Just remember folks we aren't gonna be able to hide all the flights as I highly doubt there are THAT many flights coming and going from Lungi.

>>11464796
Right, right.

And I keep forgetting about the Rafale. ;_;

>>11464818
Oh shit, you're right. The logistics of this strike just occurred to me. We're looking at multiple squadrons, at least a dozen planes.

Wait...does BF have any proper bombers?

Surprise MiG

>>11464857

At least sixteen, assuming minimum four planes/flight.

If any of the flights are six/eight plane elements, we could be look at anywhere from 20 to 36 aircraft.

>>11464876
2 Wire, not a bad trap, but definitely a chop.

>>11464857
That would be why I said a few flights back at >>11464437.

>>11464879
Holy shit, BARS are about to get raped.

Fuck the Eagle-strike plan, BA should come in and loiter ready to KICK SOME ass and let Badger deal with wrecking the airport while the cruise flattens Baker and Demon handle any initial airborne defense.

A thought, /tg/.

Can cruise missiles be used in a way to spoof radar signatures of actual aircraft? If so, perhaps op could use 4-6 to simulate a flight and get those asian fucks to light up and waste SAMs on them.

>>11464639
Ah, right, overlooked the support squadrons (again). Well, looks like they have everything covered.

>>11464924
Nah, see, that's why I suggested a supersonic cruise like the Russian Moskit to first-strike Baker into submission. Followed by the longest-range ATGMs you can get. Several dozen of them.

Or a high-altitude-dropped FAEB maybe?

>>11464924
A better and cheaper method would be to use target drones for that as they are meant to be shot down.

>>11464958
But the Moskit option means we get to real-world-test some high-tech shit for the Russians, AND suprise buttsex BARS with a ramjet-propelled telephone pole of doom.

FOR COPERNICUS

>>11464957

What was the FAB used in World In Conflict?

A few of those might do the trick. If only the Russians made thermobaric cruise missiles.

I am still in support of OP getting a Strike Eagle. For it is the BEST Eagle.

>>11464989
As am I. Seems like the best replacement for his Bug.

But using it for a first-strike on Lungi is, on further reflection, somewhat foolish.

>>11464975
well they do have the father of all bombs.

>>11465005
Well, if nothing else they can gear out for Air Superiority with a few AtG rounds, that way if BARS brings in anything from outside the base they can do horrible things to them.

>>11464974
I had suggested a BrahMos, P-500 Bazalt, or the P-700 Granit.

>>11464989
Baron's flight history proves that he ought not to over-invest in a single bird. Not one with a particularily expensive radar array, at least.

I'm still thinking he should stick with the bug and either save his spare cash for an early retirement or invest it in other forms of support for missions. Smart preparations and flying are more valuable than any airframe.

... although it IS a terribly sexy bird.

So apparently we'll be allowed to issue orders to Squadrons... It also seems we are in parity with Demon in terms of piloting skill.

BlackFlag Squadron Assets
Jaeger Flight
Flight Grade: A
2x F-15C, 2x F-14D

Badger Flight
Flight Grade: D
1x A-10, 1x SU-17, 2x F-16C

Demon Flight
Flight Grade: B
2x SU-24, 2x Tornado ECR, 4x QF-4G Phantoms

>>11465023
All equally insane options, and equally valid.

>celestial pelvises
Oh. Okay then.

>>11464709
This is the best plan ever.

>>11465048
That SU-17 looks reaaaallly out of place.

>>11465073
Well, last mission, Scotch's A-4 showed that old shit can still wreck shit.

>>11465048
>Badger
>A-10
Well damn that's pretty
>Demon
>2 Su-24s and Tornadoes
Oh. Okay...
>Jager
>F-15s
Ho.
Lee.
Shit.

>>11465048
So are you the only wing that got buddy buddy with the Ruskies? All the other wings seem to be flying [mostly] NATO birds.

>>11465036
Personally I'm torn between the F15E Strike Eagle and the EA-18G Growler as Op again seems to excel in the Electronic Warfare department and in bombing the living daylights out of everything.

>>11465095
>>11465095
I dunno, all those birds (save the A-10) are pretty multi-national birds. Well, maybe not the -Doomcat.

>>11465048

Well, you could have Badger flight take care of the runway and the specops with their birds, between those 4, they oughta be able to shitkick anything on the ground.

Jaeger flight can act as full airwatch, and Demon flight goes in first for SEAD.

Better ask Steve what the capabilities of those drones are, too.

>>11465048
Badger flight is looking really....fail I guess? Does their Grade mean they haven't been in many missions, or that they fail? If the second, do keep a close eye on them...we don't need friendly fire.

>>11465096
Could you maybe mount a couple ECMPs on an Eagle?

And fill the remaining pylons with Brimstone 2s.

>>11465111

Could be MW4 Mercs style, based on the capabilities of the airframes.

Makes me curious, OP, what's your flights grade?

>>11465111
I don't know what the grade means, wrote back asking.

I am kind of pissed at the awesome planes some of the groups have, although I guess my bug isn't too bad.

>>11465111
It looks more like they're unfocused. A pair of light fighters, an older fighter/bomber and a slow ass groundpounder really doesn't read like great unit cohesion.

Especially when compared with Jaeger's hot plate of whup ass with a side of rape.

>>11465142
Buddy, get that damn Strike Eagle and you'll have a multirole plane that can outperform an awful lot of even fairly modern shit AND utterly obliterate anything that isn't a hardened target.

...I have gathered two things.

This has occured before.
It involves planes..and mercs.

What is going on and is there a away for a pubbie to participate, as this sounds awesome.

>>11465158
It is the plane I have been saving up for. I wanted to buy it outright, and sell the F-18 to get a super hornet later if I needed it.

I love the eagle, especially its look.

>>11465162
You want to read this:
http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Mercenaries_and_planes

>>11465162
the OP (Baron) plays a semi-RPG'd version of AirWar C21 GM'd by the enigmatic and disturbingly thorough Steve. He comes to us with mission briefings looking for advice and then regales us with tales of warcrimes after the fact.

>>11465169
Do exactly this, then. You won't regret it.

>>11465169
OP has my approval on plane. Definitely go for the full multirole on this one, load out with equal AtA and AtG. If nothing else, go for mostly Air Sup, with two or three bombs dedicated to eliminating SAMs or something.

>>11465175
I shall do this at once, thank you.

Much as I love pick related, I say OP ought to get a Superbug.

>>11465162
Well as you said, they are mercs and it involves planes.

The OP is kind enough to detail his (awesome) groups escapades detailing their briefing first and allowing /tg/ to analyze the situation and post suggestions for him and his friends. Then he gives us an after-action report later on. These AAR's usually have the group's plans go to hell in a flaming furball, but they still pull through, often in spectacularly awesome ways. Unfortunately, they are not currently recruiting anyone, but we're content with just reading the crazy things they do.

It pleases me that despite the shit on /tg/, this thread continues to be a front page item, with just as much, if not more, awesome, then when it started.

>>11465215
I'm sticking with combo'd ECM pods and Brimstones personally.

Because Brimstones are just...well...they're just fucking awesome.

So op has decided on the F-15E also what was the model of F-16 does Scotch have?

>>11465252
That being said, there is an online merc game that is being started on the forums (multiplayer, still recruiting, two people per Squadron) and Sukhoi has offered to Run a Vassal Air War game.

>>11465259
I thought it was Hugs who stole the F-16, not Scotch. And it may be an XL or whatever.

>>11465268

Hugs stole it and gave it Scotch because he's a bro like that.

Having worked on them for a few years, I'd say F-15E would be a spectacular choice. Anything you can fit into ECM pods can already be fitted directly into an F-15E (albeit in inconvenient places). That's the reason it has a smaller gun magazine.

If you're wanting to go true multirole tho, a Su-30MK is hard to beat. It has SEAD and EW capability that the F-15E doesn't have, but the electronics on an F-15E (as well as the LANTIRN/Sniper pod give it a decided edge in conventional Air to Ground combat. No phased-array radar though (last I knew only charlie birds were getting the upgrade, as well as the helmet mounted cue system).

>>11462388
AM I THE ONLY ONE PISSED OFF AT THAT LOADOUT!

>>11465252
I am most amused by this. I have never seen anyone actually get vehicle combat to work effectively without rules lawyering it all to hell.

>>11465280
Well a PMC can get hold of that shit somehow, given time and funds.

>ECM can fit in the bird
Great. Slap a pair of GOOD Sidewinders on the thing and then mount those fucking Brimstones, unless anyone knows any better way of bringing truly silly quantities of guided AtG standoff munitions.

>>11465283
Indeed. Asymmetrical loadouts are the devil.

>>11465320

Uhhhhhh...

They've GOT four CAS birds, one of which is an A-10.

>>11465237
So... so... blue!

Man, this ball of dirt must really look different from up there.

As for Badger flight, I'm guessing they're the bottom of the totem pole for Black Flag. Their job is mud-moving, so I'm assuming they fly most often against targets that have at best AAA or manpads for air defense. As such, their earnings, and as such, airframes, would be a bit more rustic. Also, some mercs just propably wouldn't fancy taking up missions with risk evaluations and earnings comparable to the wacky and suicidial edge-of-the-apocalypse shit Black Aces fly. Steady keep, steady risk. Everyone remembers Biscuit and Sandy, afterall. Not necessarily incompetent, but propably not as motivated as the bigger boys.

Man. Considering there's going to be 20+ frames in the sky from Black Flag alone, I suspect this is going to be the mother of all furballs.

>>11465334
The key word there is Close air support he's speaking of AtG sniping.

>>11465284

That brings up another good point. Apparently the GM the OP's group has is scary good. He takes real-life geography, factions and PMC's and turns them into plausible senarios. More than once someone has commented that 'Steve' must be some sort of intel officer posing as a GM.

I think that out of all of the sorties they've flown (15) only one guy left the group. (At least I _think_ Sandy left. Did he roll a new character after his last one ate skyscraper?)

op, don't look threatening! The enemy might be low on ammo.

>>11465393

He ragequit after he disagreed about the manner of his char's death.

>>11465393
Yep sandy left

>>11465389
Indeed, I'd rather have BVR stuff going after Baker, and accurate AtG strikes against anything hanging around the airport instead of just napalming it into oblivion.

>>11465419
It was kind of a shit way to go, but Sandy decided to stick it out at low alt rather than expose himself to SAM fire. And his luck ran out.

Hey op, if you do decide to nape something, here's a cadence I stole from a guy in the US Army.

"napalm napalm it sticks like glue, burns old women and their children too"

Ya but at east he took quite a few people with him when he went.

>>11465469
Haha, oh wow. Almost as mean as it is true.

>captcha: mr meanness
... it prompted me to choose the picture.

Hugs may have the most cash, the best jets, the hottest women and the greatest kills, but in my eyes, Scotch is the better pilot.

He fights in Cold War surplus, has the most cannon kills, shot down an AtA missile, and has punched out and survived (three?) shoot downs.

>>11465469
I like that I also like the 7 P's Proper Prior Planing Prevents Piss Poor Performance.

>>11465508
Hugs is a bro, Scotch is the Man, Judge is dependable, and Baron torpedoed a cruise ship.

>>11465478
From said mission:

-Ground Incidentals-

* Sandman: Furniture Warehouse/Factory, Bakery, Butcher Shop

... yeah, he went with a bang, an armchair and a bologna sandwich.

>>11465529
Ouch you made me fall off my chair laughing.

>>11465508
Scotch is getting some hot French FFL pussy.

Because he's just fucking determined.

>>11465531
What better way to blast through the pearly gates, in a disintegrating flaming russian super jet.

>>11465531
Curse you I'd just gotten back in the chair too.

>>11465550
Let's not forget Scotch's international relations.

"I drop me pants and let the lass have a gander!"

>Scotch Gains Maintenance +1

>>11465550

No, he's banging that mechanic he smuggled out of Russia.

>>11465581
I thought that was Judge?

Scotch is Farenheit. It explains everything.

>>11465264
>there is an online merc game that is being started on the forums (multiplayer, still recruiting, two people per Squadron)

Thats a different game though, Mercenary Air Squadon. Its almost board-gamish, definitely not a realistic combat simulator.

>>11465654
Better than nothing though, I'm in, where do I sign!

Damn I nearly missed this one.

This mission will be a definite switch for you guys. You'll have to take it to the next level when commanding other flights. One things for sure...the game will take much longer than before.

And a Strike Eagle for your upgrade? Gotta admit its a nice choice for a multi role. I'll be praying you don't total it on the first flight out.

>>11465707

Only one thing will be damaged.

The radar.

Again.

And it'll be a total loss.

>>11465742
Baron is radar-cursed.

OP? I think the Captcha likes you.
>your amazing
Yes you are.

>>11465742
I still laughed maniacally when Baron made it through the murderdeath of that mission, landed safely, and then, as he taxies off the runway, BANG, nose gear collapse and the Bug smashes it's nose into the ground.

>>11465758
And the fucking radar is totalled.

AGAIN

Apparently the grade relates to pilot quality, and our flight is rated as B, maybe even B+.

>>11465782
Yeah, that was annoying.

>>11465790
Not as good as Jager.

Hope they don't show you up.

>>11465790

Well, that puts a snag into the "Use Badger for CAS/Runway fuckery."

Maybe one of you could load for CAS to lead Badger flight?

>>11465807
I doubt that they can beat op's Collateral Kill Count.

>>11465790
Yeesh, that doesn't sound good for Badger Squadron. Sounds like they just picked up some regular Joe-Shmoe fresh from training for that flight. I wouldn't give them anything too taxing/important, OP.

>>11465811
Again, Brimstones. Fuck cratering the runway.

Also an A-10 should be perfectly able to shitruin several groundbound birds before they can take off.

>>11465835
Badger Flight will fly point and locate enemy SAM sites!

(Any ship can be a minesweeper. Once)

>see thread
>read it
>my face

Giv'em hell, OP.

Wait.

A forum full of smart intelligent discussion not 40k-related.
Drawfaggotry.
Epic storytelling.
The longest 1d4 chan article
35 Archived threads, everyone of them 300+ posts and all re-readable...

Has /tg/ evolved?

>>11465904
Don't hold your breath.

Also it's TWO wiki pages due to sheer fucking ludicrous size. And I really must update the second page.

>>11465973
The Somali mission was awesome, almost as good as Blackport point napalm with Liberian convoy.

>>11465689

Check the forum

>>11465904
Evolution is heresy. The God-Emperor commands all living creatures to do His Will according to His Plan.

That should be enough 40k-faggotry for one thread.

>>11465904
While I'm not so sure TG has evolved. Planes and Mercs has brought all the good in the board to the surface.

back on topic I would have Demon fly in just behind the drones to run SEAD. Using the drones to hopefully bait out the Sam systems and any air assets BARS may have and assuming the drones are combat capable they can assist with the work.

>>11465807
Actually, I find myself wondering why Jaeger Flight isn't in charge of this mission, if they're the best pilots. Was a reason given? Is it just because they're apparently specialized while the Black Aces are more of a multirole group?

I also find myself wondering what OP's team is normally referred to as. It seems like all the other BlackFlag groups use one-word, two-syllable designations.

>>11466136
Bager should come in shortly before the special forces arrive and do CAS as that is what they seem to be equipped for but keep a very close eye one the ground and be ready to assist the special forces should badger flight panic and mess up.

>>11466185

My guess is either "Black Aces" or "Warcrimes 101"

>>11466204
Jaeger should be flying CAP as is their specialty.

As for Hells Black Aces they should do what they do best running all over the place blowing things up.

>>11466185
You generally give Command Control to people who've been in theatre longer. Also gives BlackFlag the ability to see just how good the Aces are, or if they should keep Jaeger at the top.

This needs archivation.

Bumping win thread.

>>11466379
Done

*comes in, reads briefing*

Oh wow. Someones going to get their shit ruined.

Pissing off a Merc company like that is bad for business.

>>11466949
Which mercenary company?

>>11466949
Blackflag

I mean, if they attacked OP and Co because they were paid to attakc them, that'd be just business. BUt attacking them because they're the first thing around for a fucking weapons test... now that's insulting.

All this infighting between mercenaries is pointless. The world needs its mercs unified under a single impartial entity. Its just better business that way.

>>11467744
Definitely. Just one big union for all of em!

No scabs.