We need to get our feet on planets before settlers do.

We need to enlist them to colonize with us.

>>10698641
Details please.

Offer this new organization a relationship with us, based upon policies of workers rights and sovereignty. We can become the primary provider for Mars if we play our cards right.

Too bad about Pandora.

Can we use what we found to discredit Pentex?

Fucking Martians.... Hmm I don't think we should interfene.
What about that corp? Info on it, please.

Which you know, served them very well, even when faced with massive alien forces that even attacked them at the technological level.

Having a triple support system like the Magi Should be standard issue for any AI Computing we do. It's relatively efficient, safe, and has good PR possibilities- keeping that HUMAN element in the loop of decision making at all times.

----------------------
Again!
Is a man not worthy of that which he toils for?

We MUST not let some corrupt bureaucrat, or simpleton politician take what is rightly ours!

Militarize Ares is we must, build up our strength until no foe would DARE take what is ours.

Release the information we gathered, along with our Umbra information, to discredit Pentex. Imply that their use of Umbra around Pandora caused all the damage.

>>10698748

Oh, that might come in handy. But why that corp?
We should rather contact the political party, group, whatever.

>>10698748
sorry not sovereignty, self-determination

Did you get the bit about expanding to the next three closest systems?

>>10698641
Set up in the umbra around ares, start testing anti-umbra creature weaponry fortify the shit out of it when you find out what will work.

Do the same for everything else.

>>10698641
Can we get recordings of the Umbra creatures destroying the Pandora-analogue?
I'm voting to start an Umbral fight. What's Pentex going to say? They can't say anything, otherwised they admit culpability in the destruction of Pandora. Also we should release the data concerning the corrupted DNA, and how it's sure as hell not natural.

>>10698780

We will gain a major enemy if we do that, though.
Who know how many military crafts are there in Alpha Centaury. Do we have means to detect Umbra stealth?

We should get with the times.
This reeks of Old Earth colonialism and we all know what happened last times it did.

We should prepare ourselves for the coming storm, fortify OUR planet Ares againts takeovers of any kind, and position ourselves as a major player in the coming games of war.

We should covertly foster Mars's...disenchantment with Earth.

>>10698743
Approximately 4,562,000 individuals wish to be transfered to new, habitable planets where they can live off the land as they like without the interference of the UN or the interference of corporations.

The transfer deadline is 2180. If they're not on their way by then, they opt out of the project.

The total sum of their wealth that they're offering for this is...

$27.8t.

That's $27,800b.

>>10698846
O_O

HELLO PEOPLE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO BUY A SPACESHIP? WHAT ABOUT ALL THE SPACESHIPS?

>>10698846
With that kind of skilled labor, manpower, and our own resources on Ares, we could become a power to rival the UN itself!

Nay, we could declare independence and rule as our OWN sovereign power!

>>10698846
THE TAU CETI PLANET!

The primordial planet. It's habitable, isn't it?

MOVE THEM TO IT!

This is looking more and more like ZotE.

The mars situation, that is.

>>10698801
>>10698818

How about the info we found about what they did in Umbra? Eradicating on of the native civs, setting them self up as some kind of gods of destruction? Should we reveal all.

Also, hacking attempts on Pentex please. Mainly concerning their forces, their assets and atrocities committed in Umbra.

>>10698866
Buy? no no no, offer to transport them and assist in setting up their first colonies, then take the ships back with you.

>>10698871

Bah, no government or corporate interference means exactly that.

>>10698846
Dedicate all possible ships to transporting these people, and build a few more transport ships with the newest security systems to prevent any kind of sabotage or disaster. If we start transporting these guys and a ship goes down, we'll be totally fucked.

>>10698881
We don't really have anything we can prove yet, though it'd likely be bad pr.

>>10698641
Find the origin of the colonization venture. Makes sure they are not a megacorp venture. If megacorp, we set up a competing venture AND send a spy into their midst. Get ready to make claims on all worlds they want to send colonists too. If NOT a megacorp, invest heavily into it until we take it over. Buy it out.

>>10698894
Also upgrade all of these systems on the other ships being used for this.

>>10698818
You have recordings of it.
>>10698801
You lack the technology to do this just yet, you need more Umbral research.
>>10698789
You lacked the cash to do that. I was going with the requests that others already ordered.
>>10698780
This is a big call.

Does everyone really want to release this information?
To the public or to the UN?

Dammit, Plasma, you ignore too much.

We asked few years ago for Morgan to give us territory on Chiron and build a colony. You even said you would go along with it... but I guess you forgot... its easy to miss things in this quest, it goes way too fucking fast.

>>10698846
Ask them if they would like transhumanism.

>>10698762
>Militarize Ares is we must, build up our strength until no foe would DARE take what is ours.

Actually, I think that this is an important point.

Simply put, we're surrounded by utter bastards. Ares is a prime location for colonisation, and with this new Mars movement that makes it a whole lot more valuable.

We can't rely on our ships currently stationed there. Not because they're not strong enough, but because I for one want to send them to Epsilon Eridani to fuck MNU for killing our colonists.

That could leave Ares undefended, just waiting for someone to move in and fuck with them. We should look into a dedicated defence force there, maybe a well trained standing army of natives, and defiantly some space based assets.

I'm thinking we should start of with a battlesation, and then back it up with tons of drones.

>>10698846
Send them all. Expand as much as is necessary to get them to all of the habitable planets we control by 2175 at the latest. If we need more money for this project, start collecting deposits.

>>10698877
Aside that we dont have mechas.
Or Jehuty
>>10698894
Plasma, I second this.
However, mobilize as many defense drones and military support craft we have.If we lose even ONE ship , we will lose a potentially huge chance for a PR extravaganza and the support of a new generation.

Get the Lone Gunmen on it to ensure safety and stop any dangerous situations or infiltrators.

>>10698846
How about Tau Ceti? It's a virtual paradise, out of the way, and we haven't sunk a lot of money into it yet, relatively.
Part of the deal though, should be that we get to keep a mining operation and such in the system. We won't interfere with them, but we'll be there if they need someone to bail them out. An escape hatch, in other words.

>>10698915
It's too dangerous, we couldn't win against them as we are.

>>10698915
Release it ALL as one big bundle to the public. Don't make and statements. Just release it to the public.

Let them make up their own minds.

>>10698915

Start leaking it to reliable top UN officals.

>>10698933
One man can only do so much for something like this.

We can't possibly send 4.5 mil people in that timespan.
How much can fully outfitted cryo-ships hold people?

Of course we could offer them transhumanism and instantly transfer them but I don't know if that will be profitable.

>>10698933
It's not just the speed, it's that there's too much going on, too much to consider. Maybe, once we've researched it, we can turn over some of our operations to an AI group. A benevolent one.

>>10698866
>>10698871
>>10698873
>>10698905
>>10698894
It does not appear to be a corporate venture. It honestly seems to be a gathering of the rich and their families and the people that they know and are willing to support. It honestly seems like a through and through attempt to gain some independence of their own.

Depending on how many you get out of the solar system by 2180, you will get a percentage of that $27.8t.

>>10698977
If we give it to the UN, it could end up nowhere.

If it gets leaked to the people, the masses will all turn into sheep against Pentex.

>>10698915
>Does everyone really want to release this information?

I'm going to say no. If we can avoid conflict with Pentex until we're ready then we should.

>>10698963
>>Let Pentex's spin machine make up their minds.

How about no? I like the release idea, but we need to put it in our light. Ancient cults do not achieve power without being able to spin like a mad DJ on crack.

>>10698938
Deny. No, we dont want to make TH a common thing. It loses value.

>>10698944
It's not his fault, this is one of the fastest moving QUESTS- ever.
And I've seen a lot .
Second.Fortify Ares!
It is OURS.

>>10698933

>>10698989
Currently, you're in the process of upgrading all of your ships to colony ships.

These can carry 1000 people in cryo and 2000 tons of goods.

>>10699005
This is our only chance. Once Pandora is gone it will fade from the public's memory. We need to strike while these images are fresh.

>>10698915
I say first to the UN, but that's me being cautious.
What say the other members of the Board?

>>10699030
include the evidence of their worship of destruction in with everything else.

>>10699023
Which means a minimum of 4,256 ships to transport them all.

Dammit to hell.

Focusing all of our assets into people transfer, how many can we realistically transfer to Alpha Centauri?


Also, calling it, DM is going to seceed Mars in 4-7 years and all of our venture will be for naught... AGAIN!

>>10699030
Sure, first to the UN works. The UN is the people with the law-making and the huge angry spaceships.

Based on others replies, I say we release it to the public. We imply that Pentex is involved. Not so much implying, as push the data in that direction. Make the people look at Pentex as an evil corp.

We're forgetting that such a huge influx of cash means we're BONED, we'd have to give it to STFU, guys.

We NEED those dummy corps set up, or at least to make some ridiculously expensive venture/project!

Either build that Long Term, Intergalactic Portal Project, or make Ares into our main base/Planet complete with defenses.

>>10698996
We've been producing 20 cryo modules 7 of our Earth based construction yards since at lest 2160.

How many do each of these individually hold.

All we need are potential colony sites, and then we get them to fund the ships we build in a joint venture (remember we just got those extra construction yards from RDA as well), yeah, we could make a few billion out of this.

>>10699015
Common? They'll be paying 27.8 TRILLIONS to become (not get the tech, just become) transhumans. They'll be paying around 6 million per person.

>>10699050
But the people are the ones that force change. And stop support Pentex with money.

Release it wide to everyone.

>>10699044
Well, we could offer the transports to the highest bidders and transport as many people as possible.

>>10699056
Oh, right... totally

>>10699044
If we could get interstellar portals researched and built by 2179, we could do it. With ships only, It's fucking impossible.

Oh, don't forget to include the information on "green goo" bomb.

I'm in favor of supporting the release of Pentex's handiwork, ASAP.

When this Mars thing explodes- anything Pandora related will be MEANINGLESS.The UN and the Megacorps will crack down due to lack of labor, and bad things will happen.

I suggest we prepare for the storm, fellas.

We are currently having all of our Earth based shipyards making Cryo pods, right? How many could we fit in each pod and how many do we have total? Any idea on how feasible it would be to just make one big colony ship and take them all somewhere? I'm thinking something BIG, like, ten's of kilometers in size, just some pandorium engines and a fuckhuge line of towed cryo pods.

>>10699068

Also, this deal would pretty much just include transfer and a morph. Not backups, not immortality, not custom bodies. That shit would cost.

...If we knew more about Umbra, we might have been able to slow or even reverse the damage, but it's too late now.
We made an oath we couldn't keep, and now all we can do is avenge Pandora, for wasted potential more than any sentimentality of course, but still...
(I know a bunch of people on /tg/ wanted the Na'Vi to die painfully before the planet was cleansed... And the movie was nice looking trash, but this still feels wrong)

We don't want to send the Mars colonists to Ares, because that's against their "no corp control" clause. We can give them Tau Ceti instead, as it represents less of our investment, isn't already populated by an indigenous civilization, and won't eventually result in a colonist revolt.

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I'm repeating myself here.

You will get a percentage of the $27.8t based on how many you transport.

You will get approximately $6b for every 1000 you transport.

>>10699015
>It's not his fault, this is one of the fastest moving >QUESTS- ever.
>And I've seen a lot .
>Second.Fortify Ares!
>It is OURS.

Yeah... I even keep losing track of my own suggestions. DM must be really strained to follow everyone.

>>10699023
I propose researching larger ships based on a modular design, as well as more efficient cry chambers, having more effective utilization of space, as well as increased comfort if possible.

>>10699162
It's never too late. It is not the Viking way to accept anything as lost without a fight. We will save Pandora, or we will obliterate Pentex. Perhaps both. This is what we do.

We have -14- shipyards.We have tons of money.
WHY NOT BUILD A GIANT ARCSHIP?

We need to capitalize on this venture and get our best men to design a large ship capable of transporting dozens of thousands of people.

Moreover, if we play our cards right with the engineering, we could retrofit the thing to become a military vessel to support our Ares defenses.

It's a good idea.

>>10699200
whoops, cryo chambers

>>10699131
I'm liking this idea. But the important question is, will the people accept this? And keep in mind everyone, we don't need to settle them by 2180, just get them out of Sol.

I am more interested in gaining more colonists than money, but I guess we were doing that before anyway.

If we were REALLY Vikings, we would never- EVER willingly give up Ares. To anyone.

Plasma, start developing Ares's defenses and military defense networks.A portal based quick response system would ensure maximum speed and minimum cash expenditures.

>>10699126
>Megacorps will crack down due to lack of labor, and bad things will happen.

Meh, we should still gain money from our energy transfer.

We can't possibly meet the deadline in time with conventional shipbuilding techniques. We have to decide now, if we're going to settle for a percentage of people, or if we're going to offer uploading their minds.
My vote is for trying to turn construction to a cuper-cryoship.

>>10699299
I also like the super-cryoship arcdesign idea.
1, it will have reusability, and 2, we can always retrofit it for other, more military purposes.

>>10699293
We should just adopt some of their requests and try to gain their trust and business. It would not impact us seriously to make workers happy, and we could make a killing by having exclusive economic relationships with them. Maybe even sell some warships or technology if it comes down to it!

>>10699299
I've been suggesting that for several threads, but Plasma is a douche about it.

We should start agreeing to transport as many of those people as possible, and using the gained funding to construct as many additional construction yards as possible, designing new and larger ships- ten thousand people each? Fifty thousand each?- and then constructing them.

After we finish transporting these people, we'll be able to use these to found our own new colonies.

>>10698846
27,800X10^9/4,562,000 = $6093818

That's six million ninety three thousand and eight hundred and eighteen dollars.

Each of our, I can only assume many, cryo pods can carry 1000.

Each pod with a colony to go to is now worth,

$6093818501

That's six billion,
ninety-three million,
eight hundred eighteen thousand,
five hundred one US dollars.

I don't remember how much a ship with an interstellar drive costs, but I think we'd need around 10 or so of these to make it pay for itself.

I don't know if this is economical without further research. We'd probably need them to go for a joint venture to pay for the ships, which reduces our overall profits.

>>10699333
I'm gonna support this too, if it's possible

Have out CY in Alpha Centauri building tons of modular warships. Always. All the time.
If we release the info, I expect the retribution from Pentex cult

Take a lesson from sci-fi in general, not to mention Ace Combat: never put all your eggs in one basket.

If you're going to build an ark ship, build more than one. Preferably 3-5. That way, if one suffers a catastrophic failure, the rest can either help or continue on.

>>10699346
>:|
Yes, let's insult the guy taking time out of his day to amuse us.

Anyway, a cut of those trillions is better than nothing, so let's build as many cryo-ships as possible now, and funnel the cash we get from it into interstellar portal research.

>>10699337
Agreed.

>>10699377
Actually yeah, I was thinking increasing existing designs, not making an arc or anything. Construction of such a thing would take too long given our deadline.

>>10699346
I'm not a douche about it. I'm just running an exceptionally slow quest with a lot of math behind it and it's quite difficult for me to keep up with everything.

However, I have added "larger ships plz" to the research list.

Right, now I know most of your requests, moving on to 2164.

Have we been able to miniaturize the standard portal gun?

>>10699392
Actually, I was implying that Plasma didn't allow it then because he planned this for now. And if we already had a massive colony ship, we'd reap all the benefits.

>>10699346
Its more likely that he can't just follow everyone requests without seconds and thirds.

I've been pushing R&D expansion (and espionage department) for several sessions now but FOR SOME REASON NOONE WANTS TO GET BEHIND IT. DAMMIT PEOPLE!

>>10699432
No, too expensive

>>10699454
Uh, I think we have increased our R&D several times and are funneling in something like 10% of our profits into it.

>>10699454
Espionage departments got up to thirded last thread. What're you up about?

How feasible is terraforming?

Can we get to Master of Orion II level of terraforming where we can turn EVERY SINGLE planet into paradise world?

I'm in favor of giving Aperture Science a not inconsiderable amount of money and just telling them to go nuts with it.
And yeah, make sure our espionage and security are top notch.

>>10699377
Not even Ace Combat, just look at SMAC, and that was in-universe. If the unity had been eight ships instead of one that assassin would never of made a difference. Only one ship would of been destroyed and everyone else would of landed and gotten on nicely.

If we build one of these ships, we need a colony to receive it (it wouldn't look good if millions starved to death on our account) and should really include some sort of escort, but we'll have to talk to the UN about that.

>>10699482
No, I don't think that happened.

We need disambiguation of our profits and expenditures ... but I guess it will clutter thing too much?

>>10699495
Not bad, check how much it would take to fund another "section" of research.

>>10699490
Well, I guess it is a question of "sooner or later, most probably later"

Did we transhumanise all the important people?
We should also do that to all scientists and give the intelligence enchantments so that they are more competent.

>>10699520
Unless we can expand our Tau Ceti colony only AC will be able to support that.

>>10699490
Sooner or later, most probably later.

>>10699490
Let Weyland-Yutani worry about advanced terraforming.

>>10699490
I reeeeeeeeeeeally doubt it.

What technologies did THOSE space faring civs had?
Also, we dont even have FTL yet, dude.

We're not even a Type 1 civilization on the Kardashev Scale.

>>10699570
Plasma, could you tell me how much it costs to produce a starship with intersteller drives please?

>>10699645
No faggot. Look at the earlier threads.

Year 2164:
The New People of Ares are spreading exponentially. They have conquered the continent of Lacedaemon and are ready to spread and conquer others with your aid. You are beginning a large production campaign to produce more military goods, as well as mandatory military training for everyone on Ares.
You inform the UN of the Pentex situation. You tell them what you know of the Umbra, what you know about Pentex, everything.
Research on Artificial Intelligence is complete - another early breakthrough.
You have begun the construction of seven colony ships to Tau Ceti.
The New Colonies organization has recieved response from several corporations, including yourself. Chrysalis, Morgan Industries and Weyland-Yutani. Weyland-Yutani starts a massive new campaign talking about the recent discovery of a habitable terrestrial rogue planet that drifted into orbit of one of their systems. An opportunity!
The Pandoran Euthanization event is about to begin. The UN is inviting you to a private digital conference. Pentex is also attending. Join?

Balance: $35b
Income: $635b

>>10699585
true.

Yet, at this moment if we didn't have other corps to worry about we could successfully colonize worlds and bring up the population to ~5 billion, essentially giving us our own Planets and giving the possibility to form our own government.

>>10699666
Definitely

>>10699666
Attend. Have portal commandos on standby.

>>10699666
Yeah.

And we should have released the information publicly.

>>10699645
>10 billion per light year between Earth and its destination.

>>10699666
>Research on Artificial Intelligence is complete - another early breakthrough

HOLY SHIT! SWEET!

SAY HELLO TO OUR NEW FRIEND.
Ask her how she feels.

Put her to work in R&D.


Also consider the "Magi" system one of the anons suggested.

>>10699666

Let's try and convince those three megacorps to form an alliance. They seem to share some of the same goals as us.

>>10699645
$10b-per-lightyear you intend for them to travel.

You currently have three Pandorium engines. If you install them in a starship, they can travel any distance - plus they're for free, after the initial purchase.

>>10699666
Absolutely. Shit is going to go down, either way. If the UN fucks Pentex, awesome. If the UN does nothing, we get to put them on our enemies list as well.

>>10699666
Cost of Magi-type tri-AI system?

>>10699729
We should probably get a program going to gradually replace our navy's engines with Pandorium types.

>>10699666
GLORIOUS!
Soon, the Principality of Ares will be BORN!

Awesome on the A.I. research. Now, we;ve all seen the Terminator movies.PLEASE begin research on benign, pro-humanity limiters on their behavior, or at least put some strong safeties research in place.

We cannot let Skynet Incident occur.

>>10699708
Yes.
this.

10X

Also all of our warships and battleships. Increase the surveillance everywhere. As soon as we detect umbra shadows, fire at will (consensus on this?)

>The Pandoran Euthanization event is about to begin. The UN is inviting you to a private digital conference. Pentex is also attending. Join?

I say Yes, unless we can get some kind of PR boost from not attending. Any ideas, fellow Vikings in Suits?

>>10699666
>Join

And a Rogue planet "happening" to drift into one of their systems? Oh well, it is their crap. Still propose Transhumanity.

>>10699727
>SAY HELLO TO OUR NEW FRIEND.

Eh... this came out wrong. I meant introducing ourself to AI and talking to it for a bit.

>>10699763
Shooting any umbras could lead to a diplomatic disaster if an agent tries to enter peacefully, or for the purposes of negotiation, etc.

>>10699777
>And a Rogue planet "happening" to drift into one of their systems?

Yeah, I thought that too.
I hope those aren't Aliens or Predators or whatever

Thirded on the Magi System research.
It's a combination of our neural/biological research and our A.I. recent development, with built in safeties- the human brains will instinctively seek to protect humanity, provided we choose the RIGHT donor brains for the project.(Which we should.)

Also, treat our new A.I. friend cordially, and welcome her/him into our fold, and get him , willingly if you can to work on research.

>>10699799
I meant in Alpha Centauri space. Stealth ships appearing suddenly.

>>10699821
Definitely need to get a MAGI system going.

>>10699814
I'm getting a Yuuzhan Vong feel.

Random planet appearing on a system?

Yeah, right.

>>10699845

Oh, and were we not to call it MIMER (after the guy from Norse mythology who guarded the well of knowledge)

>>10699846
Goddamnit, we are THE most self-aware, genre conscious Corporation ever.

I mean, what's next, do we begin advising our enemies to name their own research projects names like "Skynet"?

You join the digital conference. It's between Regent and several key members of the UN. His face drops as soon as you guys enter the discussion.

"So, what are they doing here?"

"You'll see. In any case, you wanted to negotiate ownership of Pandora?"

Apparently Pentex is offering several trillion for ownership and also only asks for $50b per Pandorium engine, designed solely for UN starships.

This is how the UN responds:

"No."

A Weyland-Yutani representative joins the discussion.

"Judging from the reports we've recieved from SLINT, you're just not trust-worthy. And before you speak, the UN has its own research department. We know all about the Umbra and its secrets, just as they do. You can't fool either of us.

"We're granting ownership of Pandora to what has been the most productive and trust-worthy corporation so far: Weyland-Yutani. We shall purchase Pandorium engines from then for $25b a ton, which we shall use as we please.

"SLINT, your job is to ensure that no one else gets their hands on Pandora. You will no longer be assisted in this process by Pentex and if any Pentex starship appears in Alpha Centauri space, you have full authority to shoot it down.

"However, for security purposes, no military starship that you own that exists in Alpha Centauri is allowed to leave Alpha Centauri - for security purposes. If we detect an armed vessel leaving the system, you will be fined two hundred and fifty billion Do you understand?"

Well, do you? What are your opinions and do you accept this deal?

>>10699645
>>10699356
Oh, and we have produced 280 cryostasis modules, since we started there production in 2160, with 140 being produced each year. So 420 by the end of this year.

We have 17 years until the deal ends. in that time and at current rates of production we could have 2380 cryo modules out. Excluding for the reuse of colony ships (which will depend on where we send them to get started) we're just not going to be able to shift all these people unless we up construction some what, to around 250 each year.

That's not a huge amount, really. we'd need five or six more construction yards, to meet pod demand alone. And obviously we would have a backlog from when we weren't meeting the necessary output levels.

I've said nothing of ships, but I think it's 20 modules a pot, with current research the way it is, of course.

Alright, that's all I think we can say about that then.

>>10699878
I liked GLaDOS to be fair. It give her personality I can relate to.
Also, goes along with the roots of our R&D.

>>10699887
BRILLIANT!!!!!!!!

>>10699920
Bull fucking shit.

>>10699936
We can have two AI. And I also believe we should go with the Magi system. Plasma, how are our little buddies doing?

>>10699920
That's bullshit. And unacceptable. We've got other interests in the AC system which can't be voided because of one planet.

Inquire as to any other pwning that Pentex will recieve. Aside from that, accept, and then find a new place to build a military shipyard.

>>10699920
We should negotiate to change our starship tithe to them, say half stay with us for the purpose of guarding the planet.

>>10699920
...I'm fine with it, but could we at least ask why we are trusted to protect Pandora but not own it?
Also, is the euthanasia still scheduled?

>>10699980
You do not have any AI currently existing. You have the technology available to create one - and you can either create a biologically based one, using neural networking, or a standard, mechanical one. Your choice, really.

>>10699920
>>10699920

WHAT!?

What the fuck ever for would we accept this deal!?
WHAT- HOW would we ever- EVER profit from this!?

Tell them this:

"We're a corporation. You're giving everything to WY.What is in it for US"

>>10699920
Can we get a share on the profit from pandorium? A lil one? Just a bit?

Also, we must seek alliance with Weyland-Yutinary.

Oh... Maybe we can have SFTU join this conference too? We'll need our daddies help to counter Pentex.

>We know all about the Umbra and its secrets, just as they do. You can't fool either of us.
It seems UN is not as incompetent as we thought.

>>10700000
Euthanasia still going ahead. Apparently they accept that this is being done for the purposes of profit and really, do not give a shit.

>>10699987
We have no other assets to use for construction.

Not to mention Hermes is in AC, and if we want to use it for weaponry it will be difficult under these terms.

We've been in AC longer than the UN or WY. We'll make sure no one fucks with Pandora, but to block us from manufacturing military grade ships to leave AC is laughable.

>>10699659
No I'm lazy.

>>10699920
>However, for security purposes, no military starship that you own that exists in Alpha Centauri is allowed to leave Alpha Centauri - for security purposes.
Do this "*Coughs laoudly* Oh, I'm sorry, I'm allergic to bullshit."

"Give us one good reason why we should cripple our extra Alpha Centuri exploration plans"

>>10699949
Totally fucking second.

>>10699920
Question, what would you do if we suddenly shut down power from space?

cause you're screwing us over here and i don't feel we should support you in any way if this is how you're going to treat us.

>>10700009
How about combine the two? So we have something biological, like some Genetic Lifeform, and something mechanical, like a Disc Operating System

>>10699920
Oh, and Plasma? If we get a moment alone with Regent, mention the word "Haglund". I'm sure he'll understand.

rolled 33 = 33

Ofer transhumanity to each transportee, after signing a non-disclosure agreement.

There will be quite a lot of ppl ready to do that if they truly want to be free. The thing of getting a new body at destination has the same chance of you waking from cryo so a lot will opt for it .
Offer it. Pluss they will pay the same price. Infomorphs

Go to meating . bea ready for momentous fuck up. if it is a fuckup release the files to the public. through all the news and nets...

I CALL HORSE SHIT.
We're a corporation.
They are asking us to do something for NO compensation-moreover, if we fucking fail SOMEHOW, we lose MONEY?

NO.
NO.
Every risk must have an equally good reward.
Either they up the ante and give us SOMETHING worth our while, or they can watch our fucking asses depart.

>>10700020
No, it's not. We will shoot down the ship carrying the bio-weapon regardless of any agreement.

Don't they understand that it's an illegal weapon? If the UN isn't going to respect its own laws, neither will we. If necessary, we WILL back our principles with force.

>>10699920
>However, for security purposes, no military starship that you own that exists in Alpha Centauri is allowed to leave Alpha Centauri - for security purposes.

Nah, this one is unacceptable.


Also, they do know that Pentex has stealth tech, right?

OK, THIS IS BULLSHIT!

AC is our only major center. If they force us to keep war capable ships in system, then fuck that.

Of course, if they lifted the restrictions on us within the Sol system, we might reconsider.

As in, no more forced construction for the UN in the Sol System. Any ship we make in the Sol System is ours completely. No service for the UN.

>>10700009
Well I'm going to put forward one vote for creating a neural network based AI. I mean, we might as well.

Who's with me.

We do what we must,
because,
we can.

>>10700009
We already told you we wanted to research a Magi System.We have more than 6 votes on it.

http://wiki.evageeks.org/Magi

They are applications of our own bio-networking research AND our new A.I. research program.A triple-supercomputer A.I. intelligence with equal voting capabilities- that have a biological brain serving as redundant backups to serve as moderators for behaviours.

It's brilliant.

>>10700083
Then why not go for
>>10700050 ?

>>10699920
The UN, as always, is being a fucking bitch. We have warships, and they know we do. We do not bow to them. We follow our own path.

>>10699926
>>10700078
>>10700070
>>10700057
>>10700044
>>10700025
>>10700013
>>10699982
>>10699949
THE CONSENSUS HAS SPOKEN!

>>10700083
Why bother making only one? As long as they have no access to anything important other than our research computers, which, by the way, should be completely separate from the corporate system, we can have as many as we want. Hopefully, they'll be delighted to help us to learn new things.

Actually yeah fuck that deal, we can't freeze our production in that entire system.

I think we've agreed- for ONCE, on two things.

The Magi System, and a resounding "NO, fuck that, offer us a better deal, or we're out of here" to the UN.

Every time we think things are going reasonably well, and sometimes when we know they aren't, we get screwed. I know it's part of the quest's formula, and it's actually pretty realistic, but it's also extremely annoying, especially when most of our attempts to prepare for future FUBAR moments result in pretty much nothing.

>>10700097
Well I agree that we should implement the Magi system.

I just think that we should go with three of the same type, in case one type proves to be inherently superior.

Also, send an emergency communique to all our facilities to HIGH ALERT.
NOW.
I smell shenanigans.

Tell them that we have already been attacked by MNU in other system.

We will not agree on letting out ships reside in the system, we will not play a role of defender. We aren't even getting paid.

Make sure they understand that UN authority does not stretch all over the galaxy.

OK, how's this for the terms.

We will protect Pandora as well as WY and The UN's interests in AC with ships built in AC.

However, we will be allowed to move our current ships out of system, and the ban will only apply to new ships. Which we will of course build to protect as we say.

However, the UN will remove current sanctions on us within the Sol system. All ships we build, regardless of weapon capability, are ours, and will not serve the UN. AND, they will not tether us down with similar sanctions in the future. They can not impede the free market.

If they don't like this, they can try all they like to get to Pandora and the Pandorium. If they want to fight through our horde of ships in system, fine. Also, see how much they'd like to lose our solar power in Sol. And our portal tech.

>>10699982
>>10700044
>>10700025
>>10700015
>>10699988
>>10699949
"Fine. All military starships that exist in Alpha Centauri must remain in Alpha Centauri. At least half must be dedicated to the Pandoran barricade, allowing- oh, missile impact in three, two, one..."

You can see the bio-warhead crashing into the surface of Pandora, releasing the virus that will render the planet lifeless into the atmosphere.

"What was I saying? Right. Allowing the other half of your forces to be elsewhere in the Alpha Centauri system. You see, your star fleet is growing rapidly. We don't like that. We can't risk an attack on the solar system - after all, we're still not sure whether you assisted in the Neptune situation or not. However, if you going to be this disagreeable, we're also willing to remove our warship tithe from you.

"Additional punishment for Pentex includes a thorough examination of all Umbral technology to ensure it's safe, and we'll keep a close eye on any research that they may be developing in the future.

"So, what do you say to this deal? No more starship tithe but Alpha Centauri warships stay in Alpha Centauri, with half of them protecting Pandora."

...Time after time we've been nothing but good to the UN and have been the butt of no less than two different concerted sabotage events. Yet we've been punished along with the instigators. Does the UN have a 'no tattletales' policy?
How much of the Earth's energy do we supply?

>>10700146
2nd

>>10700169
>Make sure they understand that UN authority does not stretch all over the galaxy.

Also tell them that they cannot hold their shot together in their own system (mars, constant earth wars) who do they think they are to try to regulate other systems at this time?

>>10700108
Alright, I will say this.

The deal sucks, but it might be the best we're going to get from them.

They have our Earth assets at their mercy. That's not good no matter how you look at it. Lets say that we'll do it as long a we're allowed to use our current 4 warships for security for transports heading to the system, in case of vengeful Pentex retribution attacks.

That's not unreasonable, is it?

>>10700146

THIS.
The U.N. might be planning something. Think, things could be going on behind curtains that we cannot see. Who says that the Weyland-Yutani did not bribe the U.N.? They are purposely trying to keep forces locked in place..

>>10700199
>You can see the bio-warhead crashing into the surface of Pandora

Godammit Plasma.

>>10700169
>>10700176

If we do this, you better prepare you asses for a fight. The UN is already under pressure due to the Mars Incident.We better already twitter(!?) or email our facilities to go into high alert and temporarily shift production to full military defenses.

>>10700199
"fuck no, you still aren't giving us anything only making demands."

Give orders for them to shut down portals and power transfer for the next half hour.

>>10700199
...I'm okay with this.
Remember they only banned warships
With our modular design, it shouldn't take much effort to turn them into transport ships.
So what if they're transporting weapons which will be equipped by them as soon as they leave the system?
Technically, they won't be warships

>>10700199
I'm pissed enough to declare war on the UN right now, but it's not worth it. Not without preparation.

This is a megacorporation. Government interference is never appreciated, but this goes above and beyond what we're willing to accept. An orbital strike above the UN building should make our point nicely.

>>10700250
"We're removing the two hundred billion tithe per decade. That's not enough for you?"

>>10700199
Decision time.

We aint fucking around, and neither are they.

We're Vikings.We live for this shit.

All stations on high alert and begin evacuating Earth ASAP?

The UN is being a douchebag and making us do stuff they have no right to do so.

>>10700199
>No more starship tithe

Acceptable

>Alpha Centauri warships stay in Alpha Centauri

"I'm willing to commit to this, but you have to understand that the galaxy is a dagerous place, we have already lost one colony ship to an unidentified Megacorp operating in Ep. Eridani, if Warships are allowed to leave sol, even after serving with the UN, to look after our other colonies then I will agree."

That's what I think we should say.

>>10700199
Their warship thine is hardly a dent in our profits.

No, we do whatever we want with our ships in non-Earth space. We need them for protection and exploration. We have already been judged for our non-involvement in Neptune incident, you can't use that leverage anymore.
Also, we are not playing a protector without compensation. I say we ask for 50% of Pandorium profits.

>>10700295
They have every right as long as they hold the power. The solution to this is obvious.

>>10700285
"Fuck no it isn't."

Disable all portal solar facilities around Sol for one hour.

"You've fucked with us too many times. We're reasonable men and women, and you're about to push us to unreasonable lengths."

Then give them back their power.

>>10700285
Not really, that was another bullshit decision you forced down our throats.

Now you've proven hostile to us, all demands are off, or we shut down essential services.

>>10700295
Don't be hasty. If we declare ourselves enemies of the UN, we declare ourselves enemies of Earth. Earth, by the way, is what buys our stuff and is the basis of our currency system.

>>10700285
That's not bad.
We should accept it for now, really.
>>10700295
For the moment, I take back what I said.
Let's accept the deal , and just begin moving the fuck out of Earth in secret.

We're caught between a rock and a hard place.

Let's even the odds before we declare independence.

>>10700250
Let's not go around making threats just yet. We don't want to come around as a bunch of greedy corp types like Pentex and RDA. I say take the deal, but I also want to see what Pentex has been researching. Request to be part of the UN investigation on Pentex. We want to see what they've been up to.

>>10700317
Belay that.
Agree for now.
Trust me, dude.
We're Vikings, but we're not stupid.
Take the deal, and prepare for war.

>>10700295
>>10700284
>>10700250
OK guys, I think we should take this deal.

It's just that this early in the quest going to war with all the other Megacorps and the UN (don't forget they still have a seizable fleet) is probably the fastest way to GAME OVER.

Here's what we need to work on.

Ship to ship missles, bult of portal edged metal to make them easily capable of breaching ship hulls.

They are filled with Hermesium. The Hermesium will burn up wildly inside enemy ships, burning the ship itself, but more importantly, just destroying their air supplies.

>>10700337
No, it isn't reasonable, they're clearly acting hostile, and they do now hold the "power", we do, litterally.

>>10700285

Listen 200bil$ a decade is damn small amount of pay considering what you are asking from us. We aren't going to leave our ships there when there are hostile corps all over the place (MNU destroying our colony ship)

Also, we need % from Pandorium mining from 20-50%

>>10700317
I'd like to do this, but we are businessmen, throwing a tantrum will only make things more difficult. Just keep an eye on Weylend-Utani for when they fuck up. If we keep ourselves more or less ethically sound, sooner or later we'll be the most reliable group.

>>10700365
*do not hold

>>10700308
I do think that we should try to push for the right to buy Pandorium engines as well.

I think we've agreed for now to accept the deal.

The UN's not gonna budge easily, and to be honest- we need to be careful.Weyland Yutani's manipulations are now evident , and while I was agreeing to go to war...

Let's not.

THIS IS A TRAP.

Let's accept the deal for now.

>>10700348
What makes you think Plasma isn't goading us into a conflict as part of the second arc?

>>10700372
I don't think you understand how much of a hold our power supllying really has, we're talking about most of the planet here.

Oh, banning "WARships" I see?

Okay, we'll just build "carriers", "dreadnoughts", "titans"

>>10700371
Remember "Modular"
We are going to be rules-lawyering dicks about what defines a warship and twist it to our favor.

>>10700395
No. We have not.

rolled 50 = 50

"we actualy have no incentive to protect pandora" smile,
" we did it to negate it's resources to any competing company"


If we are not friends with wayland ad this:
"As they are restricted and wayland yutani have the grip on it, well you are on your own"

grin

>>10700395
Also, lower the penalty for losing a ship or letting it escape.We're vikings and brave, but not fucking retarded.

>>10700199
BYE JAKE SULLY.

Accept the deal, and set up to spy the fuck out of W-Y's efforts.

>>10700398


Also, this is gonna piss off most of the entire earth population if we suddenly cut their power. And who is going to blamed? Exactly...
DO NOT CUT POWER.
ITS A TRAP.

>All military starships that exist in Alpha Centauri must remain in Alpha Centauri

I don't get it. Does that mean new ships are free to go?

The primary UN representative is about to blow his head off at you before the WY representative makes an offer. Meanwhile, Regent's screen goes off. Clearly, he's had enough for now.

"Hang on a second. How about this - if you assist us in the Pandoran blockade, we'll offer you two hundred billion per annum. It's barely a dent in our current profits, let alone what we'll be making in the future - and well, as a subsidiary, that's got to be at least half of what you're making right now.

"So, what do you say? In addition to the current deal, two hundred billion per year. I don't think you can ask for more than that fairly, can you?"

The UN representative fumes at you while the WY one waits expectantly.

>>10700432
It doesn't much matter, since they'll have no bloody power.

Why are you guys screaming TRAP?

>>10700440
That means all that exist now and in the future.

>>10700444
That is acceptable.

I'm just one poster, and if the broad consensus is to draw ourselves into conflict with the UN, WY, Pentex, MNU, Tyrell, and even Zorg (not to mention the Earth superpowers, fuck with their electricity and NO ONE is ever going to want to use our shit, it's going to be a PR nightmare) then I'll have no choice but to agree.

But I strongly suggest that we don't do this, yet.

>>10700444
Take it.

Also, become very concerned at the fact that -200- billion per annum is NOTHING to them.

Become very scared.

>>10700444
Sure thing.

Accept deal already. The UN CAN AND WILL hurt us if we keep pushing them.

>>10700444
Heh, he doesn't realise we're bigger than he thinks.

Hmm, see if we can get the possibility to mine pandorium for our own use (non-selling) or at least buy directly on the spot for reduced prices.

Fuck these guys. Both of them. We need a space where we can construct our own warships without interference.

>>10700444
We can not ask for much more than this.

Deal.

>>10700456

BECAUSE.
We are most likely being goaded into a fight. Or doing something drastic in order to get our point across.
One that should NOT be done is cutting the power to earth. EVEN FOR A FEW MOMENTS. THIS IS A NO GO.

>>10700444

I prefer % gains. 5-10%

>>10700477
They're a megacorp, not that suprising actually. Still, we should drive it up. At least 300

No war. Not yet. Take the deal, and ramp up construction of fucking everything. In a decade or so, we make our move, either moving out of Sol entirely or taking the system.

Remember, we can't discount STFU's involvement in this fiasco. There may be a simple reason everyone is always one step ahead of us. I suggest we direct espionage efforts into STFU's operations.

>>10700444
Yeah, let's accept the deal and move along with the plot.

We've calmed down a bit.
We're NOT going to be goaded into an obvious trap that WY has obviously manufactured.

Let's make preparations for long term defense of Pandora, and of course, making Ares something that can resist EARTH"s burgeoning penis.

>>10700493
We have other colonies, this is a set back. Nothing more.

We will rebuild, we will rise again. Right now we should be glad that we have some extra income and don't have to worry to much about Pentex fucking Aries.

No, we only have to worry about them fucking everything else we own.

>>10700463
>That means all that exist now and in the future.

I don't like this. I don't like this at all.

ALL of our industry and production is based there. We had to move from Earth for that. What now? We move from AC?

We don't have anywhere to go right now.

>>10700444
Go for it.
Also, how feasible is it to have our warships converted into transports, only to have a re-conversion system right outside their jurisdiction?

>>10700544

Ares, motherfucker.
We've been talking about making it our homebase for a while.
Let's take this seriously and make Ares our real capital base, away from WY, Earth, and all those other dickheads.

>>10700518

That is about 1/3 of our ENTIRE INCOME.
And that is a DENT for them.
We need to get boots on Pandora and start mining resources.
Or soon we WILL BE outgunned on all fronts as Wey-land...
OH MY GOD.
Is Weyland corp building a system crushing fleet with with the money they are getting? Simply somewhere else with the money they are getting? As with the profit thing..

>>10700525

Our parent corp intentionally sabotaging us? That's a little odd, if you consider profit motive.

Ask UN if they have Umbra shadow detecting technology.

If so, we want that.

>>10700547
>>10700526
>>10700525
>>10700498
>>10700486
>>10700485
>>10700477
>>10700465
Well I think that settles it then.

Frankly, I don't believe W/Y can be making that much profit ahead of us. We supply energy to practically the entire solar system, for God's sake.

Accept some sort of deal.

HOWEVER, WE NEED SOMEWHERE WHERE WE CAN MAKE SHIPS IN THE FREE AND CLEAR.

WE NEED TO EXPAND OUT OF OUR CURRENT SYSTEMS.

PLASMA, WHAT IS THE CLOSEST STAR SYSTEM WITH A HABITABLE PLANET?

We'll be fine.
We need to diversify our actions, and only use AC facilities specifically for resources in that area-

We need to strengthen our other colonies, specially Ares.We also need to keep our development a secret.

You seem to want to accept the deal.

With that, the video conference ends with the UN representative looking like he's about to burn the WY one alive. Still, Weyland-Yutani's guy looks pretty self-assured and confident about it all, seeing as he offered you more cash than small countries make without breaking a sweat.

Over the next few days, Pandora's ecosystem disintegrates. All that is left is a barren, dead sphere, hovering in space.

One last thing before next year, then.

How do you wish to make your AI?

Make three, as per the MAGI system? Make one?

Biological or mechanical?

$10b per AI, regardless of material.

>>10700594
We're a subsidary, we got a few incomes on the side (among them the energy market).

They are a Megacorp. They control thousands of companies all over the world, doing everything possible.

>>10700563
What the hell are you talking about?

Ares, just as Pandora and Hermes, is situated in Alpha Centauri system.

>>10700575
We're already pushing to be a part of their Pentex investigation scheme.

We fucked Pentex, but stealing their tech is another thing all together.

Oh, and is anyone one for having a sending Pentex a message?

>>10700611
After that deal, what's the status on our ship building rights?

>>10700611
Group of three, two mechanical, one biological, that way no matter what they get infected with they can't have complete control taken.

We need to more focus on consolidating our position and alliances. Just focus on Ares and possibly opening relations with Morgan Industries and now the new Chrysalis Corporation.

With pretty much everybody trying to fuck us over, we need at least a few people that we can trust.

>>10700594
True, but remember, with infinite power, comes cheaper prices, and it places us in a bad position.If we cut power, suddenly Earth becomes our enemy.

They might want to overtake us and put us under the UN, which I'm sure the UN wants. We're too important to leave in Corporate hands.On the other hand, W/Y is obviously manipulating the UN.

>>10700600
Tau Ceti, other than AC and the Solar System.

>>10700611
Urgh, fucking stupid.

We should have at least talked with STFU before accepting.

>>10700600
Ep Eridani, at 10.5 Light years.

Though Tau Ceti is already settled and is only a bit futher away, at 11.9 Light years, if we're going to re-outsource our production, that might be the best place.

>>10700642
And WY. Especially since they control the Pandorium now. And they'll want good relations since we control AC... airspace? Spacespace?

>>10700611
>>10700050
How about this?

>>10700632
No

>>10700639
- Military ships in the Solar System must serve in the UN star fleet for 6 years after construction.
- Military ships entering the Solar System are boarded and confiscated by the UN. Offending parties are also fined for $250b.
- Military ships in Alpha Centauri cannot leave Alpha Centauri.

>>10700611

Make three, as per the Magi System, all part of the same support system, with the biological personality interface system we've perfected, to create the EVA style Magi- 3 AI's supported by Human Brains chosen for their humanity, their logic, and their ethics.

Build it on Ares.

>>10700694
Think you meant trade ships on that first one.

quest cancer

>>10700685
I am still not sure about WY, especially with their latest offer. The fact that they were willing to make that offer in the first place so the agreement will be mutually beneficial may mean they have nothing against us. But at the same time I still don't trust them after the stunt they pulled to gain control of Pandora.

We should at least try to be civil with them.

FUCK! THAT DEAL SCREWED US.

PLASMA, BEGIN SENDING SHIT LOADS OF RESOURCES AND COLONISTS TO OUR TAU CETI PLANET.

BEGIN RESEARCHING INTO TERRAFORMING THE SHIT OUT OF IT. IT'S PRIMORDIAL. WE NEED TO MAKE IT MORE HABITABLE FOR HUMANS. SEE ABOUT SENDING ANIMALS FROM BOTH EARTH AND ARES TO IT TO SEED IT WITH LIFE.

WE NEED TO INDUSTRIALIZE THE FUCK OUT OF IT. MAKE IT OUT NEW HUB. AND NO ONE WILL TAKE IT FROM US.

CONTINUE BUILDING UP OUR FORCES IN AC THOUGH. WE WILL AMASS A SIZEABLE FORCE THERE AND WHEN WE DECLARE OURSELVES AS A FREE ENTITY, WE WILL FUCK THEIR SHIT UP AND TAKE IT BACK.

>>10700611
>>10700694

this was fucking awful.

I suggest funding Mars secession. Lets see how they will deal when there are two major players in space politics.

rolled 51 = 51

No to the money. Yes to some percentage of pandorium!

Be smart.

We need those friggin engiens in the future

>>10700712

And then build a permanent defense fleet around the planet along with the highest security possible.
A.I.s like that are gonna be extreme high importance targets for ANY competitors.

>>10700639
We can build any thing we want, really.

AC can build military ships, though that would be seen as a fully hostile military build-up and probably provoke a respones like this one.

In Sol we CAN STILL build warships, but they must serve 6 years in the UN fleet before they're released for our use.

Obviously, there's no restriction on unarmed vessels.

>>10700726
Yes, how great. Now we can't even send military ships to escort/protect our assets. Expect MNU, Pentex, Tyrell fucking with everything we own.

No way, we should have agreed to their proposition.

We should also begin making Mars secede, albeit COVERTLY. Nothing to trace it back to us.NOTHING.

Let's make the UN pay for fucking with us.
Anything they lose, we gain. Disenfranchised people become exellent skilled laborers on a world that offers them good pay and a new world to visit.

Let's make Ares the NEW World of Tomorrow!

>>10700640
Got it.

Anyway, I'll be accepting requests here for next week, but I'm done for the night. Didn't get as far as I wanted and it's been subpar really. Sorry for not being as good as I've been before but I hope you folks enjoyed it anyway.

>>10700741
No, military ships built in or entering sol space are seized. it was trade ships that needed to serve the term.

WHAT THE FUCK, OP!?

You just raped the shit out of us.

>>10700779
Fuck you, I'm done with this shit.

>>10700723
Well, it's not like we're ever going to trust any corp fully... I mean, not even MI.

Also, remove any interstellar engines from the AC warships and replace with intrasystem drives. Make some transport hulls for the remaining engines and send back to Earth to pick up cargo/cryo units.

>>10700741
And if we increase Modular research, it shouldn't be difficult to convert ships one way or the other.

>>10700779
Oh I had tons of fun, bro.
It's getting tense and heated, and we have actual ENEMIES worth a damn, and a fast moving story.

To be honest, this is going good.
And I;m sincerely hoping this doesnt go like IRON QUEST, which our friend CPU died on us.

So take your time, man.

>>10700728
>I suggest funding Mars secession.

I'm personally all for this. We have a fuck ton of cryo pods, if we're not going to build ships for them then at lest we should sell them to other Megacorps who're looking to support the exodus.

>>10700779
It's alright. It was fun as usual, and I eagerly await the next installment.

Build many AIs

Put them on Earth and all kinds of space installations. When the time comes we will utterly fuck them all up.
Proceed transhumanasing people.

operation Phase Eclipse is go. We will fuck them all up.

>>10700798
>>10700783

Dude, it's fine.Is this your first Quest?
Most quests have this problem, where the DM caters only to the players, and the players become godlike, and it gets BORING really fast without a challenge.

This one actually has a random element to it. and it's fun.

>>10700689
Seconding GLaDOS, because we haven't tempted fate enough by actually dealing Pentex significant damage.

Already archived Y/N

Too lazy to check.

>>10700779
Right then, things are looking bleak and it's always obvious we're playing in a league with bigger guys. Still, I like it. I'll be around next week.

>>10700798
Relax. Pentex is getting it far harder than you. An entire decade of planning, gone to waste, all of their research, in the hands of the UN and the eyes of the UN on their every fucking move.

The UN is just as paranoid and just as powerful as any megacorporation and they will not allow any threat to them to exist.

>>10700779
No, its been good.

We got bogged down in this UN-WY-pentex thing but next week we have less to worry about.

Well, except for Pentex and this rouge planet shit. But hopefully we can progress a bit more.

Thanks again.

Even though that program with the people who wanted to leave Sol was to avoid corporation interference, maybe we can set up another offer that we will create colonial cities on Ares where people can migrate there for a significantly cheaper cost. Say that we will maintain basic infrastructure but besides that allow the colonists to live without our interference.

At face value it would look like a PR stunt where we are helping people who want to colonize new worlds, but it will instead be an attempt to bolster the population of Ares so eventually once it becomes strong enough by itself we can move our corporate HQ permanently over there.

Hell, maybe even later we can try to rally the colonial cities and try to gain independence. So instead of being a corporation, we will be a planetary government. An entire world with a booming human population with an integrated Aresian population. With the backing of a fully colonized and self sustaining planet, we will definitely be able to get shit done. Fuck Earth, man.

Though this will probably take decades to happen.

>>10700890
>just as paranoid and just as powerful as any megacorporation

Which is great, because there are more megacorps than there are UNs.

>>10700828

I meant making the planet itself independent.


Also, speed up with Ares uplifting. Have them reach Earth level and possibly surpass it, then we can say "fuck off" to UN as they would have absolutely no authority on alien race.

>>10700853
Nah, done two before this, really. One turned out pretty well, one lost steam and died.

Anyway, still making notes. I'll make sure you guys fund the Martian secession.

>>10700890
The U.N. is stupid, we were fine with things up till they started trying to punish us for bringing acts such as what happened to pandora up to them.

Now they've made themselves an enemy and one that they can't really deal with, we have a stanglehold on inter-sol power and transportation.

>>10700901
Yeah okay, but lets make sure to treat the Aresians as equals and not do to them what... humans have done to every indigenous population they can.

>>10700901
FFFFFFUUU-... game ended before finished typing. Oh well, maybe next week.

Twas fun

We'll be fine.

Plasma already began building our New Magi A.I. system, designed to support our R&D for the future, and when it becomes stable and efficient enough to trust with security and such, we will have a better chance of dealing with hacking intrusion than before.

Moreover, we have the upper hand in the short term. Establishing mining operations will take time, and we will make money doing our job, which we are good at-defense.

We take this time to build up ARES and make sure we have shipyards and defenses elsewhere?We'll be golden.

Also, Kudos if we prepare our own bases on Earth System with self-destruct mechanisms.

If they fuck with us- BOOM. Earth has no power for quite a while.

>>10700981
Also- we need another colony.Ares is fine, but they are uplifted aliens.

We need our OWN planet.

>>10700981
Or transportation, don't forget the lack of easy transportation.

And yes, I agree with the self destructs in all our facilities.

>>10700961
I always figured that we were trying to mold the Aresians into our bro-tier alien comrades. Like said someone said earlier, a client race of sort. Fully integrated into our society and treated as equals.

Since yeah.. every other attempt at subjugating an alien race in fiction always ends terribly, so why not make them willingly join us instead?

>>10700890
Yes, but why the fuck are WE getting punished, AGAIN? What the fuck did we do? We even went out of our way to gather the evidence about Pentexes misbehavior. However you put it, there are no justifications for this.

Just because we have military assets in other system? I'm sorry, we are not the only ones who have them, how about MNU, MI, or any other corps? Do they get sanctions? No, they don't.

Both threads are archived:

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html

Vote them up, tell your friends and family, ect.

Well we hit the big one O, albeit that it took one more thread than it should of.

It's been four decades and we only have bases in two star systems besides Sol. We need to start painting our ships red or something.

I TOLD you all.
Last thread, I TOLD you.

We're in the road of going all Principality of ZEON.
You didnt believe me, didnt you?Rebellions, UN being a douchebag, corporations being more powerful than the government?

We're like a few steps away from going all "SIEG SLEIPNIR" and dropping a colony on earth.

Are we gonna make Mobile Suits too?

>>10700948

Don't forget on making lots of AI infiltrators in every aspect of UN and Earth culture, governments, warships, space stations and stuff.

Also, info-morphs and stuff

If they try something again, we just destroy all the have.

>>10701102
I am all for that now.

Before, I even thought helping USA and UN but now... no.


Speaking of USA. How did the war go? Or is it still going? Man, that would be the longest fucking war then.

>>10701106
Not without self-destruct mechanisms.We dont want them getting caught and our tech being reverse engineered.Plus any REAL Magi system like we asked Plasma to do would be huge.

THREE Supercomputers backed by Organic Support Systems ?That's gonna be huge.

>>10701042
I think it's because, thanks to Aperture Science, our proportions of size to power is off the charts. We have the biggest and most advanced fleet the UN know of, thanks to Portals we have nigh-infinite energy. Face it man, we're scary.
Also, for AIs I vote we make GLaDOS and the Magi. We can afford it, and I think that they'll pay for themselves within only a couple years, and then they'll make us a lot more money.

>>10701042
You're building a large military force in the most commonly observed system outside of the Solar system. The UN is extremely paranoid about this after your previous involvement with the Neptune incident.

Also, you entered a deal with an isolationist organization that wishes to leave the dominion of the UN. That's another point against you in the eyes of the UN.

Also, as far as the UN is away, your most valuable resources are in Alpha Centauri. You've got no reason to move your forces elsewhere, in their opinion, so this is just insurance that you don't.

>>10701102
Unless we have Minovsky particles, there's really no point is there?

>>10701163
hey, Plasma, small question.
Considering our resources and the building of the New GlaDOS and Magi systems....

Can we actually make something like the SDF 1 yet?

>>10701163
Hey, we were framed for Neptune. And since when is the UN so worried about people leaving?

>>10701163
>so this is just insurance that you don't.

Consensus seems to be opposed to things.

As it stands, it looks like we're going to be securing our shit against intrusion in AC, laying out plans for colonisation in both AC and TC, which means we'll have to move construction yards to TC.

I imagen the UN won't like this. But unless we start building a huge military force there they can't really complain to much.

>>10701163
Speaking of military forces.

Can you tell us how strong are other rivals and UN in military aspect? (I mean, from what we can observe. Pentex should have much more ships in Umbra. MNU has base in that one system, etc)

>>10701232
Still, no one could really come to a conclusion about who or what did the Neptune incident. As for why they're so worried about people leaving? As long as corporations have assets on Earth and in the solar system, they have a fairly large amount of control over you.

As soon as you leave entirely, you're not longer under their control. Anything and everything could happen.

>>10701163
>>10701222
Plasma,
About the AI's and the transhumanism... could we go on at a higher level of reserch and get something like Cortana?

Masive Researcher brain clones FTW

>>10701283
ANYTHING?

>>10701283
As long as our energy transfer portals and portal infrastructure remain in-system, we'll have a stake in the future of Sol. Sol grows, more money for us.

>>10701311
You can already create Cortanas.
>>10701255
The UN is going to majorly crack down on Pentex in every way you can imagine.

As for the MNU, you are unaware of the relationship there and what's going on in Eridani Epsilon.

>>10701222
You want to make a kilometer long warship that is capable of turning into a giant robot?
First lets start making ships of that size that are specifically not designed for combat, but can easily be modified for war. ...How much money would rich yuppies of the future pay for an Interstellar Cruise?

>Also, you entered a deal with an isolationist organization that wishes to leave the dominion of the UN. That's another point against you in the eyes of the UN.

What was that UN said about self-determination of people?
Something like this I think:
>Chapter 1
>2. To develop friendly relations among nations based on respect for the principle of equal rights and self-determination of peoples, and to take other appropriate measures to strengthen universal peace;

So what, they are going against their most important principal of giving the right to people to self-determine and if they want to give them right of their own government and territory ?

Throw the charter in their face. If people want to secede it is their BASIC HUMAN RIGHT.

We are not seriously going to try for giant robots in space are we?

Plasma, when and/or will you be starting Corp Quest again?

>>10701354
Thats good.

But I meant the military strength of UN. Like how many ships they have, if they are more advanced then ours, how strong they are, etc..

>>10701385
The UN has repealed the Charter.
In the Grim Darkness of the 22nd Century, there is Only the UN.

Pray they do not alter basic human rights further.

>>10701354
>>10701311

What is Cortana?
And please do not refer to wiki, just give small explanation.

>>10701422

Well, we NEED to have them, bro.
Didnt you read Plasma's text? Out there in deep space, anything is possible!

What happens if this guy comes?
>>10701338

Then you're gonna be like, "Man, I wish I had a SDF 1'ss"

Also:
Several megacorporations refuse to use the power that you supply. They own a sizable percentage of territory in the solar system. Also, the South American Alliance and India refuse to as well.

As for the result of the war between the United States of America and the South American Alliance, Columbia is the 62nd state of America. The USA also wanted dominion over Venezuela but they couldn't get it, it seems. Primary reason for the war is that America was quite terrified of a major power suddenly popping up just South of it.

>>10701454
The AI from Halo. Master Chief's buddy.

>>10701283
>As long as corporations have assets on Earth and in the solar system, they have a fairly large amount of control over you.
>As soon as you leave entirely, you're not longer under their control. Anything and everything could happen.

So what?

Should have thought before going "lol, Capitalism, Free market, give all the power to corporations, derpe herpety derp"

They should have seen this coming a mile away.

>>10701354
>>10701454
Essentially Cortana is a self-aware computer program that is capable of learning new things about a variety of topics with no discernible limit, at the cost of said knowledge actually degrading her into non-functionality within a matter of years.

>>10701385
Oh, they have the right to secede.

Doesn't mean that the UN likes it.

>>10701486
>America
>adding states by conquest

Plausible, I guess.

>>10701518
Now I'm curious. Has there ever been a case where a country basically went fuck you to the UN and left? What did the UN do?

>>10701499
Oh

Was it super advanced or something? Was she sapient or/or sentient?
I remember that she was just annoying.

>>10701429
They've got six warships constructed by you, one supermassive defensive space station constructed by you and around two hundred war drones constructed by MNU.

>>10701516
>at the cost of said knowledge actually degrading her into non-functionality within a matter of years.

...Why? This seems a serious flaw which I wouldn't associate with AIs

>>10701558
Yeah bro.
A Highly Advanced AI capable of self adapting, improvisation, learning and intuitive leaps and creativity?

That's like the Holy Grail of computing.It would revolutionize the world. And some people believe it would make mankind reach something called the Singularity.

>>10701518
You speak of the UN as a single entity, but in reality, it's composed of an association of member states.

How many nations are on the Security Council, and could we sway them?

>>10701585
Thats it?

And, hey, what did they think of supermassive defense station? I suppose it should have surprised them alot.

>>10701606
In modern term 5:
Russia, USA, China, France, UK.

We could sway Russia, maybe.

>>10701589
It's called Rampancy. After a number of years, the AI becomes so absorbed in thought - about itself, about the nature of everything, philosophical stuff - that thinking takes up more and more of its processing power, its memory, eventually causing its vital functions to fail. It thinks itself to death.

>>10701600
Well, we are not sharing that. Fuck them.

We'll lead Ares and/or our own planets into singularity and transhumanism.

>>10701631
In addition to those five, there are 6 other members who change every so often. The five listed are permanent members of the Security Council.

>>10701633
Man, fuck that shit.

I hope our AI is better than that.

>>10701486
Why doesn't India want to use it?

Is it because of Russia, China, and, what was it, the Islamic Union? I mean, they all use it so maybe India just hates it because their enemies like it.

>>10701661
Different kind of AI so probably.

Those are just "smart" AIs in universe, they have absolutely no programming shackles.

>>10701589
Essentially, it begins to allocate all its processing power towards intelligence, instead of maintaining coherency. things like their memory becomes so convoluted they begin to form infinite feedback loops.
Before that though, they tend to become murderously insane.

>>10701631
In terms of the major players in the 22nd Century:
The United States of America
The South American Alliance
The European Union
China
India
Russia

Of course, there are still some internal conflicts and strong arguments, but when someone leaves the UN, it means that none of the six have influence over them. None of them are in control. They can't really have that.

It's 3:40 AM, I'm sweating like a horse and I am tipsy. I might not be making sense.

Remember Plasma, we especially asked to have backdoors in every ship we had constructed for UN. We should put out AIs our info-morphs into them as sleeper agents.

>>10701649
>We'll lead Ares and/or our own planets into singularity and transhumanism.

Don't you mean transhumanism/transaresianism?

Well, you've got to accept life is a compromise.
An A.I. with no learning limitation shackles can outperform another AI in intuitive leaps and such, but there's also a greater reach of the A.I. suddenly going
"NUMBER FIVE IS ALIVE!".

And then, if you're not lucky, the A.I. suddenly might go all Skynet on your ass.

Shackling an A.I. and putting limits in it is for it's own good as well as ours.

>>10701693
Kind of makes me wonder how cortana will go down, I mean rampancy isn't a definite thing, nor is the thinking themselves to death, it's just an average of 7 years, not an absolute.

On the other hand, cortana has absorbed far more information than she should have by that age.

>>10701661
The process was alleviated in later models I think.
Also of note is that "Smart" AI aren't really AI. They're actually a modified form of transmuting a human brain into programming. For ethical reasons in Halo at least the Brain was a copy, but the "Smart" AI are still 'imprints' of a human thought process.

>>10701685
Oh, yeah, I forgot the seventh. Islamic Union, yeah.

But, yes. It's essentially a case of "well, I'm not using it, I'd rather destroy their power source than use the same one". Then the other nation goes "well, they might attack it, so I'll defend it, blab blab blab". You get the picture. Such reliance on a single power source is a weakness that can be exploited.

>>10701726
I know how you feel. It's 26.8 Degrees C in my room and I'm down to my trousers and nothing else. What is it about the summer? Even night is boiling.

>10701746
I don't remember what came of this but I don't think it was implement in the end.

>>10701764
Not to mention she got raped by the Gravemind or something along those lines. Ew.

>>10701803

They are refusing cheap, clean energy for that? They could still leave other methods of energy and use energy transfer .. but its their call, screw them.

>>10701803
>Such reliance on a single power source is a weakness that can be exploited.

Humm, they're wiseing up. Luckily, I doubt they'd expect the one to be responsible to be the friendly Viking megacrop who runs it all.

>>10701828
Man that was hot.

I am going to plead DM for making more thread again.
Please

>>10701763
Skynet? I think with Aperture Science we already know exactly what happens when an AI runs rampant.

>>10701944
Nah, I've had enough GMing for the night.

I recently bought STALKER and it's been hovering in my mind throughout the entire time. I've been constantly thinking "ENOUGH QUEST SHIT, IT'S TIME TO PUT ON YOUR UKRAINIAN FACE AND CAP SOME BLOODSUCKAS".

>>10701969

I SHOULD get to gaming too.
I want to download STALKER and get OL on it.
Or something else, if someone says it's just as good.

>>10701969
I meant more often than once a week ...

but yeah, STALKER is a good counter argument, have fun with it

>>10701999
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Y3OL05OH

Here you go, uploaded OL 2.1.1 for ya

>>10702061
Thanks, bro.
I like DDL more nowadays rather than going through torrents.

Getting panicky at "CEASE AND DESIST" letters my friends got.

>>10701892
Got an idea!

SEXBOT AIs for the Transhuman Playboy/Girl.

Good idea? Y/N

>>10702154
no

>>10702154
Sounds like both at the same time.

Sexbot transhuman AI? Hot.

Rogue AI let loose in a colony of more or less defenseless transhumans? Probably a bad thing.

>>10702178
Darn. But would it sell anyways? This is the future, ethics are probably low in the general population.

>>10702193
First thing obviously.

I don't know if MI operates any warships, but here's a model if they do. Toned down the color a bit so it looks less like BEES IN SPACE.

>>10702236
No.

Just because an inn keeper would likely give you a room in exchange for sex, doesn't mean that you do exactly that in a RPG.

There's roleplaying and there's creepy.

>>10702308
>Talking about Cortana
>Ilikebees
>Beemind

>>10702308
SWEET.

Not MI, but I can think of another faction that could use an altered version of that model.

>>10702321
This is 4chan.

>>10702321
Not to mention that we're a megacorporation.
We specialize in ships, military technology and cutting edge stuff.

Small scale applications like porn is beneath us, and it would be very weird if companies like Lockheed Martin suddenly made sexdolls.

>>10702358
>Lockheed Martin
>sexdolls

I would pay good money for an SR-71-tan.

>>10702358
>aerospace company
>Superplanes
Supersexdolls?

Can a drawfriend draw Ares, I have hard time imagining how they look like (yes, I read the fluff)

For the idiot clamoring to have the Mars secessionists relocated to Ares: that planet is already inhabited! It has a native population that we've been helping for the past several years! It's within relative spitting distance of UN military reprisal! AND THE SECESSIONISTS DON'T WANT CORP INTERFERENCE! THEY DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH US AFTER RELOCATION! THEY WILL FIGHT US ON THAT GODDAMN PLANET YOU FUCKING MORON!

>>10702358
Well, not us directly, but maybe a small wholly-owned subsidiary.