>Father was a Vindicare Assassin
That would be some lax assassin there.

>Mother was a tank commander
In before 'yo mamma so fat' jokes.

>chaos invasion of their homeworld
Everyone should have died.

>Due to the Chaos warps from the Chaos attack he has a body wide scar that looks like flame, and his hair has been modified to give the illusion of a night sky
Dirty mutant scum.

Ugh.
>Character carries her dogtags on him at all times, will go into a bloodrage if someone tries to take them.
>body wide scar that looks like flame
>air has been modified to give the illusion of a night sky.

;_;

ugh


tell me this is some kind of troll thread

>Character carries her dogtags on him at all times
Implying that the first thing the Inquisitor will do isn't take them off him.
Do it, OP. Do it.

Me: Waaaaait just a minute. Hair like night sky?

Him: Yeah.

Me: Elaborate

Him: It is pure black with white specs that look like stars and looks like you are looking into the night sky. But the specs don't seem to be in set spots and give off a faint glow.

Me: ಠ_ಠ Can you just say he has black hair with a few greys?

Him: That doesn't sound very cool at all. Chaos warps do stuff.

Me: Its not supposed to be cool. GRIMDARK.

Him: It adds character.

Me: Sounds like anime to me.

>>10075998
>Chaos warps do stuff
Truth. Usually it leads to the person in question getting purged like a bitch.

>Me: Its not supposed to be cool. GRIMDARK.
>Him: It adds character.
It can be cool AND grimdark. But yes, this is obvious chaos taint.

>>10075998

>black hair with white specs

Isn't that just dandruff?

Faggot: NO YOU DONT UNDERSTAND ITS POETIC AND SPECIAL

>>10075980
doitfaggot.jpg

> Chaos Warps

Im pretty sure those happen when you hammer B in a sonic game or something.

>>10075998
Yeah, have the Inquisitor take the tags off as a "Your loyalty to me must be absolute" kind of thing, then when he gets all pissy, he gets his head blasted off with an inferno pistol.

Or just have him purged for having 'Chaos Taint' (Scar and hair)

>>10076027
yes yes yes

I hope he attacks the inquisitor

>>10075911
OP, the standard answer is LET THE PLAYERS DEAL WITH IT.

Remind them Inquisitors want those touched by chaos usually dead.

tell him to reroll afterwards.

>>10075911

>Father was a Vindicaire Assassin

So I guess love DID bloom. Inside her vagina.

That character begs being purged very early in the game. If the player starts bitching about it, slap him around and suggest not to take fucking chaos taint as a character trait, no matter how insignificant. This is forty kay we are talking about, shit like that gets you and your entire family purged just to be sure.

on one hand, kinda faggy, but............

a good dm would let him do it if it didnt really effect any game mechanics, because its about having a good time right? when this kinda shit happens in my game, i kinda forget it until he brings it up again. Your players will be happy and in the end it has about zero effect on the game.

>>10075911
Seriously, how old is that player? I mean, ;Hair of stars' sounds like it came from a 16yo who writes bad poetry...

Let him play the character, but have everyone be aware of his OBVIOUS FUCKING HERETICAL MUTATION

Him: black with a few grey hairs? Chaos sure is crazy here

Me: I'll let your peers judge you... and an Eversor.

Him: Quit being a fucking jew about everything.

Him: Anyways, he was conscripted into the planets IG forces and on his first battle his whole squad was killed with him only to be saved by the inquisitor and a grey knight force.

Him: Because of his heretical looks the Inquisitor brings him along to keep a close eye on him and has loosely-based beliefs that he is protected by the emperor himself

[I wish I was making this up, he really said that.]

Me: Elaborate.

Him: That is why I have the body scarring and the crazy hair. Because the warps would have killed an average guardsman, yet this guy survived.

[End.]

Yeah, so I don't know what to do about this guy. Mary Sue out the fucking ass

>>10076043
>>10076056
>>10076057
Yes. Let him know that obvious mutation is usally shot on sight, and that the inquisitor wants to speak with him alone.
Get the Big ][ to ask him about his past. When he talks about his mother's death, have ][ get out a dataslate or something, and ask about her dogtags (since they weren't recovered at the scene), when he shows them off, have the Inquisitor take them, because carrying around your identity as an acolyte is pants-on-head retarded.
Watch as he attacks someone way out of his power bracket.

>>10076072
This.

If they purge immediately, Inquisitor applauds and say they passed the test.

lf they take longer, Inquisitor has to take them aside to remind them what to do with Chaos.

Uh, veto the character?

>Warped by Chaos.

Cut this bit out. Visible chaos based mutation = instant purge territory for all but the most radical of Inquisitors. If he wants to just be a regular burn victim then sure, but make sure his Fel is one of his poor stats because of it.

As for the Vindicare thing...kinda torn. Very "look at me, I'm special," but potentially fun. Especially if the father is sent back to kill his son to redeem himself for his past transgression (sleeping with his mother).

>>10076098

He is 21. Yes, I am serious

>>10076112

The problem with players like this isn't that they want all these crazy 'characterful' quirks (brotip: just ebcause it's weird doesnt make it 'better'), but the expectation it brings. He dies just as easy as a guardsman with the same stats and gear who grew up on an agri world at the arse end of nowhere milking space cows and I assure you that he'll get butthurt about this.

>>10076043
crazy idea here:

Inquisitor tries to take dog tags off the pc, BUT, the pc survives the ensueing fight and becomes a major antagonist in your game.

>Because of his heretical looks the Inquisitor brings him along to keep a close eye on him and has loosely-based beliefs that he is protected by the emperor himself
>only to be saved by the inquisitor and a grey knight force

Man, in a realistic, non-sue scenario the dude would be staked on a Nemesis rather than saved. Saved by Grey Knights and an Inquisitor, seriously? Since when have they started saving anyone, especially some fucking conscripts?

>>10076112
You could troll him back. Have someone else in your party make an even harder Mary Sue, and go along with it like it's nothing at all. And then if he ever brings up his shit, admonish him like "Jesus christ, again with the weeaboo star hair? Anyway, as I was saying, Bill's half-eldar psyker with color changing eyes goes yadda yadda yadda" stuff like that.

WHAT THE FUCK IS "THE WARPS"? Is this some retard that knows nothing about cannon? Sounds like he ought to play some Exalted instead.

>>10076112
Right. So. Father is a Vindicare. Saved by the Inquisitor and Grey Knights. Survived warp flames.

Rank 1 DH characters are not special snowflakes. They earn their snowflake status by surviving till about rank 5 or so.

OP:

Inquisitor confiscates dog-tags because he doesn't want his acolytes being identified.

Party forces guardsman to shave head bald, so he doesn't stick out like a glowing sore thumb.

>>10076139

You know purge means "kill the character", right?

>>10076112
Have an interrogation scene between him and the Inquisitor. And by interrogation I mean torture.

>grey knights saving guardsmen

I don't see what the problem with the dog tags is. Character creation encourages you to have little idiosyncrasies and keepsakes.

The rest though, yeah. Problems.

Fuck this guy, kick him out of the group unless he stops being such a RAGING HOMOSEXUAL. Seriously, this is just disgustingly retarded. Also heretical.

Dear god I couldn't stand to even be in the same room as this guy.

>>10076222
Your point being.....

>>10076234
Hey, after the first war of Armageddon, they exiled the entire population of the planet to work-camps and death worlds.

Anyone witness to a battle with the Grey Knights is purged, they are one of the Imperium's most closely guarded secrets.

Furthermore, aren't Vindicares unable to realistically have any children? Their entire purpose is to snipe or die trying, so that does not leave a good pension plan. Not to even mention the fact that each Vindicare is a large investment, and the big =][= won't be letting them go unless they are so crippled they can't hold a rifle straight anymore.

In short, kindly tell your player to stop that shit and make a simple character.

It doesn't matter how Mary Sue their player characters are. They're still playing Dark Heresy, and they're still going down.

You could just let the rules do the hard work for you. A character exposed to that much warp taint and horrific combat should have gained maybe 30 corruption points, 20-30 insanity? Make him roll permanent insanities and mutations if he fails the willpower/toughness tests, then watch as his 'Mary Sue' becomes a paranoid mutant freak.

Wasn't there a few threads worth of writefaggotry about a Guardsman being interrogated by an Inquisitor, and it was eventually revealed that he'd been saved from Chaos by some GKs?

>>10076193
Well to be honest a lot of people don't know about cannons.

If PC complains of TK, have Inquisitor say 'that fool thought he was "blessed by the Emperor". So easy to test.'

'We have dismissed that claim.'

>>10076279
i think the purging is more due to the fact that if a taint is major enough to warrant a grey knight then it is major enough to be a severe moral threat to anyone nearby, and its easier to purge just in case

Just have EVERY npc in the game accuse him of chaos worship for his faggy appearance. Like if he's ever trying to sneak around, have a random npc on the street look at him and scream bloody murder.

Make him a liability to the party (as he really would be), and it'll be the other characters that deal with him. You won't have to lift a finger.

>>10076112
Okay first rule. Players do not control the Inquisitor. Ever. Player may not have inquisitor in their back story or GIVE the reason for them being grabbed.
That's the GM's job.

Explain to him that you do not appreciate him cribbing on your job. Further reject his background and cite why. Request a new one.

If he bitches remember he doesn't have to play with you. Remind him of that.

Move on with your life.

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Ugh, why does his character have to be special from the beginning?

>>10076338
It ended in him being dragged off by the ]I[

>>10076282

I think of pretty much all Assassins (note the capital A) as more like of a human-like weapon and less of an actual person. Eversors and Culexus especially, but all apply. I always got the feeling that the Officio Assassinorum vigorously purged any trace of personality so as to ensure an efficient, emotionless killer. Regardless, all the steroids they pump in those bastards would shrivel their balls faster than you can blink.

You could always make him start with insanity points and have the Inquisitor quietly explain to the other acolytes "Yeah, he's mad as a box of frogs, but we think he has potential. Just smile and nod when he says his father was a Vindicare or that his hair glows like the night sky. Poor bastard was in the Tranch war. Just a bit of sympathy needed, if it prevents him from doing his job put him out of his misery."

>>10076388
I wish I could find that again on sup/tg/.

>>10076402
>>10076282
wouldnt surprise me if the whole lot were chem gelds

>>10076225
This anon may be onto something.

I posted
>>10076368
If he bitches too much tell him he can try to roleplay his way out of an interrogation. Use that word.
Go into detail and have a different inquisitor conduct the interrogation/torture.
IF by the end his character is not dead he can use the character and their backstory will be grimdarked up a bit. IF their dead you tell them to reroll.

>>10076368

I'd like to note that I go to college with this guy. We're friends and Warham it up all the time. (He plays guard, go figure.)

I cannot simply discard him. But I like the sound of taking away the dog tags, and having all NPCs calling him out on being a mutant.

>Character carries her dogtags on him at all times, will go into a bloodrage if someone tries to take them.
>body wide scar that looks like flame
>air has been modified to give the illusion of a night sky.

>>10076368
THISSSSS

All Offico Assassinorum are chemically rendered incapable of having children. They are also HEAVILY conditioned to not even consider it. They live for the kill and nothing else. They're barely different from Arco-flagellants.

Let him keep the backstory. Secretly add +20 insanity points to his character to represent the delusions of grandeur caused by Chaos.

Oh oh oh

Tell all the other players he's been mindwiped and given this fake personality so he doesn't have ties to the outside.

everything is totally false.

>>10076416
I find this horribly cruel, (Particularly if you do it with him in the room.), and amusing. Go for it.

>>10076443
He needs tough love one way or another and the best solution will come about by talking to him frankly and sternly about the topic.
Your issue is that the worst solution of loosing him as a player is also a possibility by going this route.

He knows some 40k fluff. He plays guard. He should fucking know better.

>>10076243

I assure you every character i have ever partied with who 'bloodraged' every time someone went to take their gismo was fucking boring. Why? Noone would interact with it,. Maybe if the character was genuinely mentally ill, it could be quite a tragic 'security blanket' type thing, but it never is.

To BLARG HULK SMASH for silly reasons ends the same way every time; them asking why the party 'overracted' to defending their own from a murderous loon.

That's not to say being murderously protective of an item = bad. We had a gunslinger in an AFMBE game who was deeply protective of a pair of dice. Old gambling buddies, true brother, all that guff. Well he fucked up and I took them to show we werent fucking around here. Cut to a few scenes later, wagon pulling away from a bunch of zombies towards whats basically the alamo finale, me fucked up in the back.

The bastard rifles through my pockets, passes shit out to the other players. I'm fucked, there's not much I can say about it. The last thing he takes is his dice. Throws my fella off the wagon to a pack of zombie horses with a 'reckon these are mine, friend'. He took his time with it and made it a personal subplot.

>>10076328

This is what I would do in your place OP. Pretend to all be fine with it, but use the rules and fluff to throw it back in his face at every opportunity. Fellowship tests will always be hard & there will be thrown rotten fruit ect from the masses every once in a while, enforcers & arbitraitors will always give him a hard time, ect. Then there is combat. Fighting redemptionists? They decide to gang up on the obvious mutant first. Fighting Demons? That warp tainted soul screems out to them as an extra tasty snack. Eventually his precious sue will die & you will simply smile & say "sorry, that's just the way the game works."

>>10076443
HOW ABOUT YOU JUST REGROW YOUR TESTICLES?

>>10076462

HOLY SHIT I want to play an Arcoflagellent now.

Expanding on >>10076150, the Vindicare bit can easily be turned into something workable.

Father had to, for whatever reasons, go undercover during a mission. Botched extraction, let's say. Went to ground, assumed civilian life for however long. Sired the kid who'd grow up to be Guardsman Sue and, shortly afterwards, was extracted without tying up loose ends (assumed he was infertile, was going to kill the mother before he left but wasn't able to due to time constraints etc). Which can lead up to Temple Assassins gunning for the character at some appropriate point down the line.

Don't be a passive aggresive faggot. Go ahead and call him out on his mary sue bullshit. Explain why it does not fit into the setting (if he expects to survive that is). Make the consequences of obvious taint clear to him.

Radical's Hanbook actually has a hive mutant origin path. It is not pleasant life.

Have Chaos cults CONSTANTLY try to recruit him, figuring he's clearly one of them. Similarly, genestealer hybrids keep confusing him for one of them. Basically, keep throwing every malformed enemy you can at him, under the guise of friendship.

Vindicare blend with city life just as well as evesors do.

The more I hear about the 40k setting, the less I understand why anyone would ever want to roleplay in it.

>>10076416
This... Oh, this.

OP, either you tell him to stop wasting your time with obvious bullshit or hand in your licence to carry a penis.

Tell him you don't think his character fits with the world and the story you're trying to tell. If he still persists, just let him play the stupid character. Try to ignore his dumb-ass backstory as much as possible. If the other players have better characters, focus more on them. Tell your story and have fun, and as long as he doesn't disrupt the game it'll be ok.

If you're feeling generous, have someone tell his character that he's going to be in trouble unless he keeps those mutations hidden, and if he ignores that kind NPCs advice, he's going to have to deal with the consequences. If he's a dumbass about it and his character dies, then it's his own damn fault. If he throws a hissy-fit about it, then tell him Dark Heresy obviously isn't his kind of game and that maybe he should find another group.

>>10076497
Awesome AFMBE story is Awesome.

>>10076530
I think this guy is onto something.

One way or another his backstory is way too much and needs to be modified. You need to be upfront and direct about this OP. It should go
"I'm sorry buddy but your backstory is unacceptable. Here's why. I have some suggestions if you want them."

A few tweaks like that guy's could lead to an interesting backstory appropriate for an Acolyte. (Will a child of an assassin perform better?)

Talk him down about the Vindicare thing, and maybe the hair. If you can't, go with the crazy route. Or you could have the whole mess be technically true. Maybe his father WAS an assassin. Or a Sniper. Maybe he does have super fucked up looking hair. That was created as part of weird ass cosmetic surgery or body modding ala hiveworld/etc, and he only THINKS that these things are true. He could also be a latent, or low grade psyker that really does project weird imagery, and is thus, not viable as a Guardsman anymore. (Maybe the rest of the team knows about him, or can find out. Whatever the case, use this against him if you go with his appearance. Either he's tainted and LOL purge, or his appearance gets weirder, and LOL purge. Or he recently manifested, so he takes all of advances in the pskyer path, and is in fact, a weird, slightly trained, and insane, psyker. Or you could talk him down into being Afriel Strain. Still special Snow Flake, but Curse-ed with Suck. And they look "Neat)

>>10076259
Seconded.

>>10076571
Mary sue faggot.

Is it really that hard to reveal at some point through the campaign that his father was really just a guardsman sniper who lied about being a high-ranking assassin with a troubled soul to get some niave girl into bed?

Not when mum is a 'tank commander'.
And still doesn't explain Grey Knights..

>>10076613
That's but one of the issues. GRAY KNIGHTS AND OBVIOUS WARP TAINT LOL are just as bad.

slip notes to the other players reading "PURE THE UNCLEAN" with the inquisitation logo all grimdark and slip him one that reads, "i'd start running if i was you"

>>10076582
What this guy said.

Part of beeing a GM is dealing with shit like this. So someone makes a stupid character that makes no sense? Deal with it. You're never going to find a perfect group. This guys character is a shitty Mary Sue but who knows, he (the player) might have really good ideas otherwise when the game is on. Or maybe he's a shitty player in every way but brings good snacks to share. Or maybe he's worthless in every way but fills one of the seats around the gaming table and makes it easier for you to balance encounters.

>>10076613
I like this option. It would settle his hash, and if he's enough of a little bitch to quit over it, then good riddance.

Star hair... ಠ_ಠ

No.

>>10076463
>>10076416
combine these two for maximum profit

Seriously, don't clue him in on it either. Speak with your other players privately, or pass them notes, so he isn't aware.

fucking hilarity ensues

>>10076571
Hearing bits and pieces from /tg/ in response to player stupidity is a poor introduction.
Read anything by Dan Abneet or some Ciphas Caine books. You can pick one up for like 8 or 10 bucks at Barnes and Nobles or Borders.

>>10076593
This reminds me of something you can do. Warn Him.
"Look your background has holes in it. If you don't want to clean it up or re-write it then we can move on. However, *I* will plug the holes myself."
I think the best way to describe this idea is Hung Out to Dry in Shadowrun. If the player does not provide an explanation the GM gets to make one up. This is a VERY BAD IDEA for players with GMs whom play it straight.

>>10076613
The thing is that his character doesn't know this. It's a big secret, but the player is dictating that it's FACT OOC.

>>10076652
>>10076665
The biggest problems. Chaos tainted = dead. Exposed to a daemonic invasion that warranted Grey Knights showing up = dead or brainscrubbed. Even if he's not mutated and not killed/made to forget then he knows about the Grey Knights who are an immensely secret group. He'd have a bomb implanted in his head that'd explode before he got the chance to talk (or write, mine, etc) about them.

combine >>10076416 with the mind cleansed background, have it so that all of this is in fact entirely made up, all of his memories are false

Vindicare CANNOT reproduce. Nor do the have any desire to, nor do they know how. END OF FUCKING DISCUSSION.

>>10076758
Vindicare could have been the half-arsed Throne Agent type of Vindicare. The sort that the Temple trains up as a favour to an Inquisitor.

>>10076748
The Voice in His Head Knows he is in Fact, a Bonafide Son of A Vidicare.

EG: Crazy as a Bag Full of Shit House Rats.

>>10076748
The grey knights were Alpha Legion that have definately fallen to chaos over the centuries, the Inquistitor is corrupt and the player is their latest experiment to bring a tzeentchian abomination into the world.

lol


have the parties' first mission be to track down an unnamed ex-assassin on a feudal death world

have that assassin turn out to be a horribly chaos-mutated Vindicare who for some MYSTERIOUS reason makes it a point to steal the chars mothers' dog tags

you can see where I'm going with this.

Sounds like a guy in my Dark Heresy game last year, whose name in game was Falcon, he was coloured red blue and gold, had a motorcycle and almost reached weapons limit.

>>10076530
>>10076613

I like these. Definitely having secret insanity points, maybe corruption. Also having the Inquisitor taking away the tags. But I'm torn between having his father reallt being a sniper lier, or an assassin that comes back to fix his 'mistake'.

Both are awesome.

>>10075998
sounds like dandruff to me

>>10076851
Oh yeah he continously bitched to the GM that he should allow certain rolls to get through that made no sense(and were natural 100's) and said to the GM that he didn't know any of the rules. Even though this said player was even more noobish than me at the time. Oh yeah I had my tech priest commit suicide for the lols that game ahhhhh good time. Rolled a 87 on trying to kill myself with the first shot.

>>10076903
Oh yes this guy constantly said that his character was 100% original.

>>10076867
Let him keep the tags, man. Think about it. They're the dog tags of his mother who was a mundane soldier. They're not part of the problem and fucking with them would just be dickish unless the Inquisitor is going to act like with all the acolytes.

>>10076867
Liar route, please. Vindicares cannot get it up. This is why they have Exitus rifles as replacements.

In as reasonable a way as possible, tell him to write a more appropriate character, and explain why his current one is a steaming sue-turd. If he refuses, you have what amounts to Call of Clthulu with chainswords as your rulebook. You barely even need to try to get his character killed in a gloriously humiliating fashion.

You know you could just point him at this thread and let him read.

>>10076416
>>10076416
This is a great idea.

>>10077076

I was planning on it. I don't want him getting offended though. He still a friend I want to be friends with him, just that his character doesn't fit the universe.

>>10076963

Yeah, leaving the tags does sound better. Plus it leaves room for if (READ: when) he learns his dad was a lier.

>>10077145
I'd enjoy seeing his reaction. Hopefully he'll figure out that we're all screaming and tugging at our neckbeards because of how hideously sue-ish his character is and not because, as he put it, we're a bunch of jews.

The Infantry primer clearly states to report any mutations to your commisar. The munitorium manual states no personal effects are allowed. Use the background to call him out and kick his teeth in when he complains. That's just how te game works.

>>10077187

I'm supposed to be tugging at my beard? Oh...

>>10077216
Yes. It's how we express our disapproval around these parts. Get to it.

>>10077145
If you really want to twist the knife, make it so that the father wasn't the liar, he was just an average guardsman who did his duty and died a gruesome death. It was the mother who was the liar: she wanted to give her son a role model to look up to- something that was unreachable but gave the child something to always aspire to. Something that would protect her son from the truth about his father's failure and his brutal demise. See how attached he feels to the dogtags after that.

>>10077278

See that picture? I love this idea so much i saved it just now just to use it for you.

the warps

warps, as in plural warps

TELL YOUR NECKBEARD FREND THAT ONLY INQIUSATOR CAN BE LIKE THIS!

>>10077278
this
a million times this

>>10077278

Simply genius! You sir must host a DnD/DH campaign for all /tg/ to play in!

>>10077579
That sounds like it would get rather complicated.

The only way it could work is if everybody rolled guardsmen and played as a platoon.

>>10077668
Iamsofuckingokwiththis

>>10077278
You twisted son of a bitch... it should be this.

>>10077729
In theory, it seems interesting. But in practice, it would be hell. The massive amount of coordination required to pull it off would devastate any who attempt to GM.

>>10077745
oh, I know

but still, a man can dream

*sigh*

>>10077278

Fuck yes, this is what should be done!

>>10077318
If you want to make it even more delicious, make it so that a Vindicare was assigned to their IG unit at the time of his conception, and is generally the figure the Mum based the lies on. Give him a hook in the story and the PC will drag the rest of the party along to follow him. This'll end with them facing a very pissed off Vindicare that's annoyed at both the rumours being spread about him and the amount of time wasted by the party that has also interfered with his mission.

What I find interesting about this line of conversation is that everyone is bitching about the 'special' character and how NO INQUISITOR WOULD EVER SAVE THIS GUY and NO GREY KNIGHTS EVER SAVE GUARDSMEN and all this horseshit (each one has a minute chance of happening -- its STACKING them that pushes it to pants-on-head retarded levels) but everyone bitching about a single mutation (which you can earn in Chargen alone), going on about how Inquisitors purge every moron they see with a mutation (THAT is likewise pants-on-head retarded)...do you people know this fluff at -all-? The Inquisitor picks up SOMEWHAT 'special people' because that's the very things that make them desirable as acolytes. Otherwise, no character would EVER be picked outside of a Schola and no Guardsman would ever fight Chaos twice (insta-purge the entire unit). The Grey Knights would kill anyone who knew they existed (hey, he knows about Chaos, purge him!) and the Sororitas wouldn't hunt mutants because the Inquisition would have exterminated them BY DINT OF SHEER NUMBERS!

>>10077793
the Grey Knights do go to great pains to keep their presence secret.
The problem tends to resolve itself on it's own though, as Grey Knights don't really even show up until the entire planet has been declared forfeit and everyone is either dead or cultist.

Even if they didn't the grey knights never, ever "save" anybody. That isn't their job, at all. If you and a grey knight are ever in the same room, you're about .5 seconds away from being killed six times over by the 500 chaos deamons that the grey knight is already halfway through tearing up.

>>10077865
You might want to let the author of the Grey Knight Omnibus know that, he seems to be under the illusion that the Grey Knights were doing their best not to get a few hundred Sororitas mercilessly slaughtered.

>>10077793
Mutations are generally secrets and mostly assumed to be of the genetic twist variety and not the warp-spawned variety. If not, then the player gets a bomb collar around their neck and/or works for a radical Inquisitor. There's a difference between "somewhat special" and "outrageously, improbably unique." Especially for rank 1 acolytes. If the character was kept as-is he'd be the group pariah. The guy who gets sent through doors first to soak up bullets. The guy who nobody trusts or gives a damn about because he's a dirty goddamn mutant.

By the way, welcome to the thread, Friend-of-OP.

>>10077882

>Implying that that case was anything like a normal GK exercise

>>10077882
hmm

of course, this being 40k nothing really makes any sense, and everything is contradictory.
The GK novel I read focused on tracking down a greater deamon, and the GK's actually killed some of the sororitas that didn't realize they were on the wrong side.

but then again, almost everyone died in that novel so it was kind of a wipe.

>>10077884
Oh no, not friend of OP. Lone gamer, just offering my opinions. I just don't like the attitude so many take that 'this is the ONLY way it can be done', divorced completely from any sense of, well, common sense.

As for your post directly, I agree with the bomb collar/through the door/soaking bullets and all. But that is still a playable character, even if the odds are stacked against its' survival. If it were my game, I'd lose the faggotry of the glowy hair, but the background itself is more than workable imo. No one would trust him for quite a while, and as the GM I would give him opportunities to earn off/burn off the corruption points so he has a 'goal' to work towards...but there's just not enough imo to nix it outright.

>>10077975
If you are looking for something else than "this is the only right way it can be done" here, most of the times you will be gravely disappointed.

>>10077975
The character concepts can remain intact without bringing a Vindicare Assassin and Grey Knights into it however. They add little (nothing in the case of the GKs) to the backstory and up the improbability factor to extreme levels.

>>10078007
this

as a general rule of thumb, my opinion is more right than anyone elses.

This applies to everyone on the board

>>10078007
That's true. Still, I know I'm not the -only- one this way. I'm one of only 2 ppl who play DH/RT/WH40k around here that I know, so I have to get my fix somewhere, even if it makes me want to rail sometimes.

>>10078043
Interesting that you dislike the GK more than the Vindicare. If I could do some tweaking with it, I'd lose the Vindicare and say the GK, for whatever reason (maybe they were there WITH an Inquisitor, who the fuck knows) did save him but he simply thinks they were Space Marines with weird shit on their armor -- after all, what does a guardsman know of proper Astartes armor? If he roleplayed a proper deep deference to the Astartes (SAVIOURS!) and an abiding loathing for the Malleus (maybe he has the Litany of Warp Detestation carved on the underside of his tongue and doesn't know it), then they add to it sufficiently. The Vindicare is more akin to plain wankery I'd say.

>>10078158
Hmm, good point. The GKs could be used like that. Before they just struck me as an element to make the character background even more special.

>>10078245

That's obviously the player's intent, but there's no reason you can't make it... Not suck.

>>Mother was a tank commander
>>Implying that the IG would let a woman have that much responsibility, in a position where you need soldiers to follow orders, not ogle their commander.

>>10078273

Easy solution: All-female unit.

>>10078273
mmm milfy tank commander being ogled by her crew of guardswomen--

0/10, by the way.

>>10078273

Nuff said.

>>10078273
>Implying the Guard is stupid enough to oogle when being ripped to pieces by enemy fire.

>implying >>10078273 wasn't posted just to derail the whole topic.

>>10078345
You oogle when off duty, soldier.

>>10078328
>General Atrian Havoc
>Atrian Havoc
>Havoc

I gotta present for ya!

set the fucker on fire, no more hair + new scars covering old faggy scars.

>>10078436

>a couple of logical leaps later

I MUST make Guardswoman Tanya!

>>10078623

Tanya would be a proto-Eversor. Insta-rape everything with dual pistols, blowing shit up, immune to mind control, etc.

Yuri would be a powerful rogue psyker.

So...I'm assuming we're done here.

>>10078680

This is happening in one of my games.

>>10075944
nine kinds of heresy right there son.

OP, let the players sort it out.

When mister-glowy-hair-and-distinctive-scar starts to get to much attention, the others'll shave his head bald, tell him to cover that shit up, and put him under so much scrutiny that he'll KNOW this was a stupid idea.

>>10076373
Amen to that.