>>5940124
>>Loyalists. You have chosen to remain loyal to The Emperor of Mankind, safeguarding his nascent Imperium from those who would seek to usurp, or destroy it. You fight a grim battle, but Horus and his madness must be stopped, no matter the cost.

Welcome to the Horus Heresy. In this, you will take command of a Space Marine Captain, leading 1000 troops in battle against the forces that would oppose you. Be warned, this is not the Great Crusade. You are fighting Space Marines, your equals, and no quarter will be given in the battles to come. There is no guarantee that you will live to see the end of the conflict ahead, but maybe there is a chance that you can make a difference?

So steel yourself for the battles to come, for all that waits is slaughter, and the laughter of thirsting gods...

>>5940124
>>Loyalists. You have chosen to remain loyal to The Emperor of Mankind, safeguarding his nascent Imperium from those who would seek to usurp, or destroy it. You fight a grim battle, but Horus and his madness must be stopped, no matter the cost.
Loyalist lunar wolves

>>5940124
>>Traitors. You have turned your back on the Emperor, the petty tyrant. For good or worse you follow Horus, though there are whispers within the legions that there are other forces at play...
Chaos is always more interesting and spiritual

>Traitors. You have turned your back on the Emperor, the petty tyrant. For good or worse you follow Horus, though there are whispers within the legions that there are other forces at play...
traitor run let gooo!

>>5940124
>Traitors. You have turned your back on the Emperor, the petty tyrant. For good or worse you follow Horus, though there are whispers within the legions that there are other forces at play...

Fuck this goodie two shoes shit, we dark ones now

>>5940124
>Renegades. The Emperor and Horus be damned! You'll rebuke both sides, and fight for the only thing worth dying for in this galaxy, yourself. It'll be a long, hard road, but what other roads are there in this madness?
The Emperor's a retard and Horus has warp dementia.

>>5940124
>renegades

>>5940124
>Renegades. The Emperor and Horus be damned! You'll rebuke both sides, and fight for the only thing worth dying for in this galaxy, yourself. It'll be a long, hard road, but what other roads are there in this madness?

>>5940124
>Renegades. The Emperor and Horus be damned! You'll rebuke both sides, and fight for the only thing worth dying for in this galaxy, yourself. It'll be a long, hard road, but what other roads are there in this madness?

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Alright, vote is currently tied so I'm going to sleep and look at the results when I wake up. Next vote will be your legion, so start thinking about that one, because it will have some effect on what you do.

I will be allowing Loyalists traitors and vice versa.

Nevermind, looks like it's renegades. So, pick the legion you belong to, GO! (For the love of the God-Emperor, please don't pick a different one each.)

Loyalists
I Legion - The Dark Angels
V Legion – White Scars
VI Legion – Space Wolves
VII Legion – Imperial Fists
IX Legion – Blood Angels
X Legion – Iron Hands
XIII Legion – Ultramarines
XVIII Legion – Salamanders
XIX Legion – Raven Guard

Traitors
III Legion – Emperors Children
IV Legion – Iron Warriors
VIII Legion – Night Lords
XII Legion – World Eaters
XIV Legion – Death Guard
XV Legion – Thousand Sons
XVI Legion – Sons of Horus
XVII Legion – Word Bearers
XX Legion – Alpha Legion

ATTENTION: Each Legion has its own quirk or specialisation. Keep this in mind when picking a Legion. If you really want to know what it is just ask (I'm too lazy to write them all up), but I'm going to bed for reals now and I'll answer all questions when I get up, so it'll be a few hours.

>>5940124

>Renegades. The Emperor and Horus be damned! You'll rebuke both sides, and fight for the only thing worth dying for in this galaxy, yourself. It'll be a long, hard road, but what other roads are there in this madness?

Don’t mind us, just trying to make it out of this shit storm alive

>>5940270
>VIII Legion – Night Lords

>>5940273
Little late there, chronicler.

>>5940277

I tried to delete my post, but it never works on mobile for some reason…

>XIX Legion – Raven Guard

>>5940270
>IV Legion – Iron Warriors
Iron Warriors are kickass. I want to be a petulant seethoid.

>>5940270
>XIV Legion – Death Guard

Pre nurgle death guard were based as fuck, maybe we could even be a psyker who hid his condition after mortarion had his autismo fit. Like typhon but not with our mouth stitched to nurgle's fetid anus

>>5940270
>III Legion – Emperors Children

I’ve never seen the Emperor’s Children much in quests like these, and I’ve always liked the colour scheme. Retaining an undeniable emperor’s children feel without completely railing the slaanesh train seems cool.

>>5940270
>XX Legion – Alpha Legion

Hydra Dominatus!

>>5940270
>I Legion - The Dark Angels
For Caliban.

>>5940270
>VI Legion – Space Wolves

Awooo! (the early years)

>>5940270
>XX Legion – Alpha Legion

>Renegades
>During the Horus Heresy
Why? Thats a retarded pick. Doesn't even make sense.

>>5940437
lol

>>5940446
exactly, should have went with chaos

>>5940446
Blackshields are a thing, even if most of them aren't going to last long

>>5940386
>XX Legion – Alpha Legion
Alpha Legion all the way. Still a terrible idea to choose renegade, but it is what it is.

>>5940446
>>5940469
>Who are blackshields
To be fair, this term should have been used instead.

>>5940476
>>5940479
I know what they are, but sitting out the war and waiting for the Scouring to roll a petty fiefdom isn't interesting.

>>5940482
To be honest, Im hoping that part way through, we can switch allegiance's and actually decide which one we are going to want to pick to fight for, because the end result is just letting canon happen and we either become a repainted chapter, or turn into a chaos warband and flee to the eye of terror after our fiefdom has been burned to the ground.

>>5940270
>Alpha Legion
Seems appropriate.

>>5940302
I agree

>>5940270
>XIV Legion – Death Guard
Let's bet nurglers at their own game. I hope we don't go Alpha Legion, it's the most obvious pick and therefore bad.

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>XX Legion - Alpha Legion. The many-headed hydra, the Alpha Legion is one shrouded in mystery, known for their secretive nature and subtle methods of subversion and infiltration. There are none better at remaining hidden or disappearing into the shadows, using subterfuge to achieve their objectives with minimal casualties, though some resent them for their "dishonourable" tactics in battle. But all warfare is based on deception, and the Alpha Legion are the masters of obscuring the truth. Hydra Dominatus.

>Alpha Legion: +10 to stealth rolls. You may also disguise yourself as another legion before engaging in battle, but be careful the enemy doesn't catch on!

You are the Alpha Legion, the last Legion, the Hydra. You know of a Terran saying from long ago that the last will be first and the first will be last, and perhaps this is true of you. Your methods and motivations are obscure, and it may grant you an edge in the battles to come, where all expect open warfare, clear allegiance, and honourable battle. Maybe you will subtly tip the scales of battle in favour of one side over another, or maybe you'll prevent any side from gaining clear victory, or perhaps you'll simply exploit the confusion of war to gather resources and weapons to yourself. Who can say? Nobody but you, of course.

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>>5940704

But first, what are your strengths? You are the leader of an entire chapter, and there's a reason why you've remained there despite the madness engulfing the galaxy. Pick TWO

>Born leader. Leadership comes naturally to you, and you can command and organise your brothers with ease. (You have an extra 500 troops under your command.)
>Well-equipped. You've got your hands on some fearsome weaponry, and you've made sure that you'll keep it. (Your men are better armed than the average.)
>Allies. You've convinced another force to ally with you, making your way through the galaxy together, instead of alone. However, they consider themselves to be equals, and will only obey your commands if it suits them. (You can pick allies from a force of Mechanicus/Solar Auxilia/Imperial Army/Knights/Another Legion)
>Charismatic. You have a silver-tongue about you, one that convinces just about anyone you speak to. (+10 to all social rolls)
>Renowned strategist. You're known for your strategic skill, and few in the legion are better at reading the obscure ways of warfare than you. (+10 to all intelligence rolls)
>Tough. You're simply a hard nut to crack. You've been on the verge of death before, but every time you've stubbornly held on to life and returned to the fight. (+10 to all endurance rolls)
>Champion. In battle a leader needs to hold his own, and you are no exception. Your personal combat skills have earned you a place at the front. (+15 to close combat rolls)
>Veteran. You've seen hundreds of battle fronts, from the beginning of the Great Crusade to now, and your men know how important you are. (+15 to the company you're embedded in)
>Luck. For whatever reason, Fate smiles on you. Once per operation (missions essentially) you may roll an extra dice, so long as there has been no critfail.

Additionally, what is your name?
>Piraeus Phormio
>Brasidas Skione
>Melos Aristogon
>Write in
>Alpharius

>>5940709
>Well-equipped. You've got your hands on some fearsome weaponry, and you've made sure that you'll keep it. (Your men are better armed than the average.)

>Charismatic. You have a silver-tongue about you, one that convinces just about anyone you speak to. (+10 to all social rolls)

>Brasidas Skione

Born leader. Leadership comes naturally to you, and you can command and organise your brothers with ease. (You have an extra 500 troops under your command.)
>Luck. For whatever reason, Fate smiles on you. Once per operation (missions essentially) you may roll an extra dice, so long as there has been no critfail.
>Alpharius

>>5940715
whoops, meant
>Born leader. Leadership comes naturally to you, and you can command and organise your brothers with ease. (You have an extra 500 troops under your command.)

Anyway, want the extra troops and more dice are always great. And the name is just too classic to go for anything else for me honestly.

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>>5940709

>Renowned strategist. You're known for your strategic skill, and few in the legion are better at reading the obscure ways of warfare than you. (+10 to all intelligence rolls)

>Luck. For whatever reason, Fate smiles on you. Once per operation (missions essentially) you may roll an extra dice, so long as there has been no critfail.

>Angeli amorphous

>>5940717
>Angeli amorphous

Is an anagram for Alpharius Omegon. This is a lie.

You must also remember that you are not expected to lead 1000 Space Marines on your own. You must delegate certain duties to your second in command, someone who can take command of the men if you are busy or even incapacitated. While your 2IC will not be as skilled or renowned as you are, they will bring more options to the table. Furthermore, this is the Hydra. If one head falls, another will immediately take its place.

Your second in command is Janus Kylon. He takes care of the day to day running of the chapter, training troops, ensuring that you have enough equipment, etc. While he will naturally accompany you to battle, you may also assign him tasks such as leadership of some of the men, or even tasking him with special objectives in battle or outside. If you fall, he will be the one to take command. But what's so special about him? Pick ONE

>Utterly loyal. He will obey any command you give without question, and he'll make sure the rest of your brothers do so too.
>Lord of War. His presence grants a +10 to combat rolls of the company he's embedded in.
>Duellist. He's capable of holding his own in a fight against enemy commanders. (+10 to his personal combat rolls.)
>Iron willed. He's a tough bastard. His presence will ensure the men do not retreat, except by your order. (Your troops cannot break)
>Terran Veteran. He's been fighting this war since the Unification Wars on Terra. (He cannot die.)
>Assassin. He's been trained to eliminate targets with extreme prejudice. (Once per battle you may make an assassination roll against an enemy leader or unit.)
>Retinue commander. He's in charge of your own personal retinue, bodyguards who will give their lives to keep you alive. (You will have 5 bodyguards, who will try to take hits meant for you)
>Quick. He's quick on the initiative, and he'll ensure your men are always the first to fact. (Your men will get a +5 to all actions, if they act first)

Rolled 2 (1d2)

>>5940723
Torn between these two options since they are both incredibly tempting and over powered. Loyalty is one of the rarest and most scarce resources in the traitor legions. On the other hand a second in command who we can count on to not die is amazing.

>>Terran Veteran. He's been fighting this war since the Unification Wars on Terra. (He cannot die.)

>Utterly loyal. He will obey any command you give without question, and he'll make sure the rest of your brothers do so too.

On a 1 I'll vote for loyal and on a 2 I'll vote for Terran.

>>5940723
>Terran Veteran. He's been fighting this war since the Unification Wars on Terra. (He cannot die.)

>>5940723
>>Terran Veteran. He's been fighting this war since the Unification Wars on Terra. (He cannot die.)
Always love the ultra-deadly old men in command.

>>5940709

>Renowned strategist. You're known for your strategic skill, and few in the legion are better at reading the obscure ways of warfare than you. (+10 to all intelligence rolls)

>Veteran. You've seen hundreds of battle fronts, from the beginning of the Great Crusade to now, and your men know how important you are. (+15 to the company you're embedded in)
>Alpharius

We’re old and wily.

>>5940723

>Utterly loyal. He will obey any command you give without question, and he'll make sure the rest of your brothers do so too.

Having a 2 that is beyond doubt will be mega helpful

>>5940709
>Tough. You're simply a hard nut to crack. You've been on the verge of death before, but every time you've stubbornly held on to life and returned to the fight. (+10 to all endurance rolls)
>Champion. In battle a leader needs to hold his own, and you are no exception. Your personal combat skills have earned you a place at the front. (+15 to close combat rolls)
We ought to be a proper warlord.

>>5940723
>Terran Veteran. He's been fighting this war since the Unification Wars on Terra. (He cannot die.)
We'll put our second through hell and back.

>>5940709
>Born leader. Leadership comes naturally to you, and you can command and organise your brothers with ease. (You have an extra 500 troops under your command.)

>Well-equipped. You've got your hands on some fearsome weaponry, and you've made sure that you'll keep it. (Your men are better armed than the average.)

>>5940723
>Utterly loyal. He will obey any command you give without question, and he'll make sure the rest of your brothers do so too.

>Terran Veteran. He's been fighting this war since the Unification Wars on Terra. (He cannot die.)

Hydra Dominatus!

>>5941126
You can only pick one trait for your second anon.

>>5940712
>>5940715
>>5940717
>>5940778
>>5941043
>>5941126

Character traits
>Well equipped: 1
>Charismatic: 1
>Luck: 2
>Born Leader: 2
>Strategist: 2
>Veteran: 1
>Tough: 1
>Champion: 1
>Equipped: 1

I'll need a tie-breaker between Luck, Born Leader, and Strategist. Pick ONE to drop
>Luck (Extra dice once per mission)
>Born Leader (Extra 500 troops)
>Strategist (+10 to intelligence rolls)

Name: Alpharius

2IC Trait
>Terran Veteran, overwhelming

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You are Alpharius. A name that means nothing, and everything to the Hydra. Perhaps you once had another name, long ago. Perhaps you will use it again. Or perhaps not. You have thrown off the heavy cloak of allegiance, and who can say if you will ever wear it again? Alpharius is just a name, one that many within the Legion have taken. Alpharius can never truly die. Your enemies will be confused, and they will never know if they will see you, or Alpharius again. But for now you must not reflect on the obscure ways of your own legion, but the task ahead of you.

Kylon nods his head at you. A veteran of the Unification Wars on Terra, he is a formidable warrior, one of the best under your command, and nigh unkillable. He’s old, older than your Primarchs perhaps, though there are so many contradictory rumours and whispers within the Legion that it’s hard to say when exactly the Twins took command. Regardless, he’s seen horrors and battles beyond the reckoning of even the most hardened veterans, witness first hand to the cruellest and most ancient weapons from the Dark Age of Technology; or at least that’s what you can gather from his scant and heavily censored record. The man refuses to speak of those early days, either from the memory or some other reason you can’t tell. All you know for sure is that he had some strange skill or luck in battle, somehow dodging blows that even your best swordsmen would have trouble parrying, or moving from a position moments before it is blasted into oblivion by artillery or tank shells. You wonder if the man can be killed at all.

“We are ready, lord.”

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>>5941195
He stands before you, holding out a small dataslate. The dim, chameleon blue of his armour glows softly in the light of your command bridge. The slate contains a full summary of your forces, ready at last to embark on their mission. About 1000 of your brothers in all, a full chapter. Taking the slate from Kylon, you briefly read through it, making sure that everything is in order.

What force does the dataslate show you?

>Line. Your chapter is pure infantry, and there is no task they cannot accomplish. Line chapters are a robust, common, all-rounder force. They have no weaknesses, but no strengths either.
>Elite. You have a large detachment of terminators and several dreadnoughts in your force. They are slow, but extremely tough and well armed, and only an equivalent heavy force can dislodge them in battle.
>Fast attack. Your force is primarily made up of fast, mobile vehicles and infantry; outrider squads, sky hunters, reconnaissance squads, etc. Their style is to hit the enemy and hit them hard before disappearing as suddenly as they appeared. They are extremely fast, but take casualties far easier.
>Siege. Your men are experts in siegecraft. They can crack open a fortress, or hold it to its end. They are armed primarily with heavy weaponry, but weak when not assaulting or holding fortified positions.
>Armoured. You are a force of tanks and armoured vehicles, sweeping across the battlefield to engage enemy armour or transporting your own troops rapidly. They are susceptible to heavy weaponry and fortified positions.

Additionally, what is your chapters name?
>Write in

>>5941164

>Luck (Extra dice once per mission)

Who needs luck when we’re smarter and better?

>>5941164
>drop luck

>>5941195
>elite

>Chapter:Orphans of Lerna

>>5941198

Dropping Luck in favor of strategist since having rerolls so early on may be to easy. We can earn some later maybe.

>Elite. You have a large detachment of terminators and several dreadnoughts in your force. They are slow, but extremely tough and well armed, and only an equivalent heavy force can dislodge them in battle.


>Truth Seekers

>>5941198

>Line. Your chapter is pure infantry, and there is no task they cannot accomplish. Line chapters are a robust, common, all-rounder force. They have no weaknesses, but no strengths either.

I think an all-rounder approach to start is probably best.

>>5941202

Orphans of Lerna is a based name, supporting.

In true Alpha Legion fashion, I think our first order of business should be to get established and develop a cover identity, preferably as Ultramarine morons

>>5941202
+1, gimme those Lernaeans

>>5941202
Supporting

>>5941164
> Luck
> Elite

>>5941198
This is >>5941043, on a different IP.

>>5941202
I'll back both of these. I know I said I was pro-Death Guard earlier, but I like the idea of an elite band getting by through 300 IQ strategems. Hopefully our Born Leadership bonus will help us out in the future. I'm very eager to see where you go with this quest AubreshQM, it's an ambitious concept.

>>5941198
>Elite. You have a large detachment of terminators and several dreadnoughts in your force. They are slow, but extremely tough and well armed, and only an equivalent heavy force can dislodge them in battle.

Orphans of Lerna sounds good to me

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You nod in approval as you look over the dataslate. An elite force of Lernaean Terminators and several dreadnoughts. Around 500 terminators in all, plus 100 dreadnoughts. The rest of your men are regular infantry, numbering 900. Indeed, it would even be possible to pass yourself off as a regular line chapter, keeping the Lernaeans hidden until the moment is right to strike. Armed with volkite and heavy weapons, they can crush all but the most resolute foes. The Orphans of Lerna are a force to be reckoned with, hard hitting and tough, though it'll be difficult to resupply and replace your elite troops, especially since you're renegades with no formal allegiance. But, all that means is you have to be even more subtle when dealing with the enemy.

The Orphans of Lerna

Elite Chapter
900 Line Infantry
500 Lernaean Terminators
100 Contemptor Dreadnoughts

Captain: Alpharius (?)
>Born Leader (Extra 500 troops)
>Strategist (+10 to intelligence rolls)

The Orphans of Lerna are Fully Equipped and at Full Strength

You hand the dataslate back to Kylon. There is nothing to change here, just a confirmation that your forces are at full readiness for the battles to come. Now that you have your final confirmation, you and Kylon walk over to the captain of your ship, the Rod of Asclepius, to review your coming mission. Captain Cimon is in charge of your fleet, making sure that your 3 ships are maintained and kept to a high standard, ever important for a force that will be on the move. If your ships are in need of repairs, or have the opportunity to be upgraded at a forgeworld, he will be the one to go to.

The Dagger of Mu
The Rod of Asclepius - Command Ship
Scylla
Charybdis

Cimon is a normal human, though he has more than proven himself in past battles. But what is his specialisation? Pick ONE

>Void warfare expert. Cimon is an expert at naval combat, giving you an edge when fighting other ships.+10 to void warfare rolls.
>Speed. Somehow Cimon is able to push his ships further and faster than any other. +10 to speed rolls.
>Navigation. Cimon has some skill at placing your ships where they need to be, whether through some trick or picking the right navigators you're not sure. +10 to navigation rolls.
>Boarding expert. Cimon is an expert at placing his ships alongside the enemy, getting you in the most advantageous position to board them. +10 to boarding rolls.
>Mechanic. Cimon knows his ships like the back of his own hand, and personally takes charge of their maintenance. Influence cost of repairing and modifying your ships is halved.

This anon >>5941432 again, if my IP has changed twice now.

>>5941701
>Mechanic. Cimon knows his ships like the back of his own hand, and personally takes charge of their maintenance. Influence cost of repairing and modifying your ships is halved
As Renegades, we have no supply lines and must get by on what meager scraps we can take. I say we go for ease of maintenance. In time, by strength of arms and low cunning, we may yet amass a true fleet for ourselves.

>>5941701
Looks great. The only note is that 100 dreadnoughts seem overpowered. Maybe nerf that to 40ish? I get this is 30k but still.

>>Mechanic. Cimon knows his ships like the back of his own hand, and personally takes charge of their maintenance. Influence cost of repairing and modifying your ships is halved.

>>5941721
I'll admit I wasn't sure on the dreadnought numbers. I know they're a little OP in-game, but other than that I'm not sure whether to make them worth 10 marines or 20. But since you're renegades they're nigh irreplaceable anyway, so that should balance things out.

>>5941701

>Mechanic. Cimon knows his ships like the back of his own hand, and personally takes charge of their maintenance. Influence cost of repairing and modifying your ships is halved.

I have to agree with other anons thoughts - resourcefulness is our best resource

>>5941721
>>5941761

We could reasonably say that only 60 of them are “awake” and the other 40 are unreliably active. Even in 30k, dreadnoughts weren’t always consistently sane or “rousable”

>>5941761
Cool. I think it will balance out if we are low on armored vehicle support since we speced into dreadnoughts and contemptor pattern dreadnoughts were by far the most common pattern.

>>5941786
It could also be that we have an excess of dreadnought chassis and sarcophagi with only a fraction of those 100 dreadnoughts having pilots.

>>5941761
Since we're renegades and Alpha Legion, we're likely going to be relying heavily on human auxiliaries. If we're fielding dreadnoughts, I suspect we either have an overwhelming upper hand or shit has hit the fun beyond all recovery. I'm curious how the strategic layer of the quest will work, but we'll be finding out soon.

>>5941786
Actually, that's a good idea. I'll say that you have 40 that you can regularly use, and the other 60 need a roll to wake up, with the possibility that you might break them if you do it without help.

>>5941812
Your fleet is pure Space Marines for now, but you can always recruit humans or other allies later on. Strategic layer will be revealed soon, next post will be determining your mission and then after that we'll get into the thick of it.

>>5941826
>right into the thick of it
Excellent, wouldn't have it any other way.

Glad to see you back Clone Wars anon.

>>5941701
>Mechanic. Cimon knows his ships like the back of his own hand, and personally takes charge of their maintenance. Influence cost of repairing and modifying your ships is halved.

>>5941786
>>5941826
On the subject of dreadnoughts, we could also balance it out with something like
>60 castra ferrums
>40 contemptors

Your survey the captain. He is a tall man, well built, with a powerful voice that echoes in the wide halls of the bridge. The crew pays as much if not greater deference to him than they do to you. But his real skill lies in his mechanical expertise, his breadth of knowledge on ship design, all the ins and outs of how they function, and if it weren’t for the his lack of augmentations you would think the man a tech-priest in disguise. As is, the speed and efficacy of ship repairs and maintenance under his watch means that the time you remain in port is short, and cheaper than usual. A valuable asset to have, doubly so when you have few illusions about the battles you will face.

He bows low as you approach, saying nothing. He and the crew have long learned that few words are needed to address the great warriors of The Hydra, silent and foreboding even for Astartes. When you are present, all fall into a hushed silence, from an equal mixture of fear and respect. Kylon stands at your side, looking beyond the man at the myriad screens and technical readouts behind him. You follow his gaze, past the ticking cogitators and whispering bridge crew to see on the central screen…

>A Hive World. One of many hundreds of thousands, it holds billions upon billions of people, and with them, war material and troops ready to be sent into the vast reaches of space. A jewel ripe for conquest, or perhaps just seizing what you need before leaving them in the dust.
>A Forge World. The domain of the Mechanicus, where every machine of war and sanctioned piece technology may be built. But the Mechanicus will not be easily parted from their possessions, and you will need subterfuge, guile, sheer brutality, or a combination of all three to take what you want from them.
>A technical readout of Space Marine cruisers. They’ve been pursuing you for weeks, but soon the hunter will become the hunted, and with luck what they have will become your own.
>Orbital scans of a Space Marine Fortress. They have chosen to leave only a token force to guard their precious holdings, while the bulk of their force sails elsewhere. Plunder, ripe for the taking.
>Write in?

This choice will determine your Target. You will have a choice of how you will approach your Target, each with its benefits and costs. Your presumed allegiance is TRAITOR.

>>5942111
Good to be back. End of the Republic is still in the works, just thought I'd try something fresh to get me back in the game.

Also gives me more time to figure out the absolute clusterfuck Kamino's going to be.

>>5942149
>>Orbital scans of a Space Marine Fortress. They have chosen to leave only a token force to guard their precious holdings, while the bulk of their force sails elsewhere. Plunder, ripe for the taking.

>>5942151
We are not going to change the outcome of the war by pirating. That's the shattered legions idea and they failed. At most you slow one side of the war down.

>A Hive World. One of many hundreds of thousands, it holds billions upon billions of people, and with them, war material and troops ready to be sent into the vast reaches of space. A jewel ripe for conquest, or perhaps just seizing what you need before leaving them in the dust.

We need to recruit baseline humans to convert into infiltrators and spies, as well as flesh stock/aspirants to further grow our numbers.

>>5942149
>A Hive World. One of many hundreds of thousands, it holds billions upon billions of people, and with them, war material and troops ready to be sent into the vast reaches of space. A jewel ripe for conquest, or perhaps just seizing what you need before leaving them in the dust.

good start

>>5942149

>A Hive World. One of many hundreds of thousands, it holds billions upon billions of people, and with them, war material and troops ready to be sent into the vast reaches of space. A jewel ripe for conquest, or perhaps just seizing what you need before leaving them in the dust.

We need mortal forces and a fleet’

>>5942149
>A Hive World. One of many hundreds of thousands, it holds billions upon billions of people, and with them, war material and troops ready to be sent into the vast reaches of space. A jewel ripe for conquest, or perhaps just seizing what you need before leaving them in the dust.

This is >>5941812 again.

>>5942149
>Orbital scans of a Space Marine Fortress. They have chosen to leave only a token force to guard their precious holdings, while the bulk of their force sails elsewhere. Plunder, ripe for the taking
We can find humans anywhere, space marine quality wargear and more importantly, gene-seed is harder to come by.

>>5942149
>A Hive World. One of many hundreds of thousands, it holds billions upon billions of people, and with them, war material and troops ready to be sent into the vast reaches of space. A jewel ripe for conquest, or perhaps just seizing what you need before leaving them in the dust.
For mostly the same reasons >>5942156, but we could operate in the underhives to keep a low profile, find stronger aspirants, and procure raw material. As long as we have a forge lord and a few techpriests with us, production of weapons shouldn't be an issue as long as we establish and maintain our supply. A hive world with a large mining or trade industry in the fringes of the galaxy should do fine.

>>5942151
Awesome, take the time you need. I'm just glad to know you're alive and hopefully well.

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>A Hive World. One of many hundreds of thousands, it holds billions upon billions of people, and with them, war material and troops ready to be sent into the vast reaches of space. A jewel ripe for conquest, or perhaps just seizing what you need before leaving them in the dust.

You nod at Captain Cimon, and he bows before leaving you to look at the data screens, showing you all there is to know about the Hive World you are approaching. The information is comprehensive, but you must always keep in mind the intelligence you have might not always be up to date or fully accurate.

Biron V.

Population: 36 billion

Environment: Temperate. Primarily forests and open fields. Several large oceans.

Primary exports: Cattle, wood, seafood, manufactured products.

Estimated defences: Weak. Outside basic ground-space cannons to fight off pirates or ork raids, the planet boasts a planetary defence force of around 500 million troops, of average quality.

Allegiance: Unknown. Has not declared support for the Imperium or Horus. No known encounters with Loyalist or Traitor forces.

Additional information: Minor hive world, one of the only inhabited worlds in the Biron system. The others are small mining outposts and militia training grounds. Conquered during the great crusade by the Imperial Fists. Minor resistance to conquest. Fully compliant with imperial rule since. Medium manufacturing capacity, currently focused on consumer goods. Can be easily converted to war industry.

Imperial Tithe: 50 million troops, 100 million tons of exports, [REDACTED].
Overall, Biron V seems to be an average hive world in the imperium. That Redacted notice intrigues you though; not much is kept secret from the Astartes, even in this civil war. Perhaps something to investigate.

What is your objective on this world?
>Raid. You’ll hit them hard and fast, grabbing what you can before leaving as quickly as you came. For this world, it will likely mean what riches they have and pure human stock.
>Infiltration. You will not make any blatant moves against the planet, not yet. Instead, you will do what the Alpha Legion does best: infiltrating the planet, gathering intelligence, and slowly subverting it until it is fully in your power.
>Subjugation. You will conquer this planet outright, and make it an outpost for the Orphans of Lerna! All that is on this planet will become your own.
>Destruction. Bombardment from orbit and then pick the ruins clean. There won’t be much left, but on the other hand there won’t be any risk for you either.
>Other?

>>5942709

>Raid. You’ll hit them hard and fast, grabbing what you can before leaving as quickly as you came. For this world, it will likely mean what riches they have and pure human stock.

Get in, get out, and move along.

>>5942709
Shoot, forgot extra vote.

Additionally, would you like to disguise your forces as another legion?
>Yes (which legion?)
>No, you will arrive as the Alpha Legion.

>Infiltration. You will not make any blatant moves against the planet, not yet. Instead, you will do what the Alpha Legion does best: infiltrating the planet, gathering intelligence, and slowly subverting it until it is fully in your power.
>Yes (which legion?)
>Imperial Fists
Go in, see redacted, fool the local population that their glorius conquers are here to check on them, see whats going on, then get out and fucking raid the place and disappear into the void.

>>5942552
>As long as we have a forge lord and a few techpriests with us
This is not certain. Due to the fact that you're a single chapter (and renegades on top of that), you don't have everything available to the average legion force. You have some techmarines, enough to keep things maintained, but making new stuff will require dedicated facilities which you don't have in your fleet, i.e the industry on this world, or ideally, a forgeworld. You will however get an opportunity to vote on what kind of legion specialist you have later on (since this is still the tutorial area, once the planet's been conquered, destroyed, raided, whatever, you'll have the full freedom to do whatever you want)

>>5942552
And thanks, nice to know people care. Been doing well, went through a bit of a rough period end of last year but things are looking better. Now I just have to catch up on all the quests I missed...

>Infiltration. You will not make any blatant moves against the planet, not yet. Instead, you will do what the Alpha Legion does best: infiltrating the planet, gathering intelligence, and slowly subverting it until it is fully in your power.
>Yes (which legion?)
>Imperial Fists

>>5942709
>>Infiltration. You will not make any blatant moves against the planet, not yet. Instead, you will do what the Alpha Legion does best: infiltrating the planet, gathering intelligence, and slowly subverting it until it is fully in your power.

>>5942710

You know what, I change my previous vote to the ImpFists infiltration mission ad this anon suggests

>>5942716

Honestly, creating this hidden empire of sorts would be quite good, and considering everyone is distracted by the heresy, we’re in a position where no one can afford to check for subversion.

>>5942709
>Infiltration. You will not make any blatant moves against the planet, not yet. Instead, you will do what the Alpha Legion does best: infiltrating the planet, gathering intelligence, and slowly subverting it until it is fully in your power.
>Yes (which legion?)
>Imperial Fists

>>5942726
tis good you are still alive QM

>>5942709
>Infiltration. You will not make any blatant moves against the planet, not yet. Instead, you will do what the Alpha Legion does best: infiltrating the planet, gathering intelligence, and slowly subverting it until it is fully in your power.
>Yes (which legion?)
>Imperial Fists
If we're hitting a hive-world, disguising ourselves as Imperial Fists seems sensible. The biggest issue is what we'll do if the actual Imperial Fists arrive but we should be fine to get a proper network underway.

>>5942719
It sounds like we need to get our feet under ourselves, if we're going to survive. Personally, I think equipping our space marines is less important than amassing tonnage. To be an actual force in the Horus Heresy, we would need at least a dozen battle barges but that isn't possible, so we can go for the next best thing and push for a plethora of lesser frigates and destroyers for a fast, nimble raiding force.

>>5942716
+1

>>5942817
Obviously we point and shout " ITS THE ALPHA LEGION" at them and hope the normies fall for it

>>5942980
Ingenious

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You decide that you will infiltrate the planet while disguising yourself as the Imperial Fists, the worlds conquerors. You will do what the Alpha Legion does best, deceiving the population into thinking that you’re on a routine patrol, all the while learning all their weaknesses, strengths, and fears. The humans shouldn’t suspect a thing. You turn to Kylon and give your orders. All he gives in response is a muted Hydra Dominatus before stalking off to begin organizing the troops, and painting them in the bright yellow of the galaxy’s undisputed experts of siege warfare.

How will you deploy your troops?

Select which companies you will deploy to the surface.

The Orphans of Lerna Companies
Alpha Company: 250 Lernaean Terminators
Beta Company: 250 Lernaean Terminators
Gamma Company: 450 Marines
Delta Company: 450 Marines
Epsilon Company: 40 Contemptor Dreadnoughts

(The companies may also be split and modified as you see fit, but for this mission I’m assuming you’ll keep them as is.)

Furthermore, what will your initial objective be?

>Intelligence gathering. You will learn all there is to know about this planet’s weaknesses, and strengths, the petty grievances between the leadership and the people, which side they have chosen for the war, etc. Knowledge is power, and with this your next move will become immensely easier. (Intelligence roll)
>Subversion of the leadership. You will put this planet’s government under your power, making sure they obey your every suggestion or misdirection. (Charisma roll)
>Subversion of the population. You will recruit and send agents into the wider populace, making them pliable to your directives. (Stealth roll)
>Identifying suitable aspirants in the underhives for recruitment. (Stealth roll)
>Searching for the source of that [REDACTED] in your records. It is unusual, and it would be imprudent to leave it unattended. (Intelligence roll)
>Write in?

>>5943072
I should also note that Alpha Company is the Command Company, and where you are automatically embedded. This will be noted in future posts. Furthermore, when subverting a planet only controlling the leadership is necessary for control of the planet, though you must keep in mind that the population can disobey the leadership, depending on what they’re told to do and how they're feeling.

>>5943072
>>Searching for the source of that [REDACTED] in your records. It is unusual, and it would be imprudent to leave it unattended. (Intelligence roll)

Good thing we got that trait at char gen.Didn't expect it would come into play so soon.

My guess is its something involving psykers, black site research that somebody does not want the imperium knowing about, or something the fists left behind (possibly hidden geneseed).

>>5943072
>>Intelligence gathering. You will learn all there is to know about this planet’s weaknesses, and strengths, the petty grievances between the leadership and the people, which side they have chosen for the war, etc. Knowledge is power, and with this your next move will become immensely easier. (Intelligence roll)

>>5943075
>>Intelligence gathering. You will learn all there is to know about this planet’s weaknesses, and strengths, the petty grievances between the leadership and the people, which side they have chosen for the war, etc. Knowledge is power, and with this your next move will become immensely easier. (Intelligence roll)

Is also a great option. I'll go with whichever anons find more popular.

>Gamma Company

You don't send terminators, chapter command, or dreadnoughts on a routine inspection.

>>5943077
>>Searching for the source of that [REDACTED] in your records. It is unusual, and it would be imprudent to leave it unattended. (Intelligence roll)
Gotta get me that mystery answered somehow.

>>5943072
>>Searching for the source of that [REDACTED] in your records. It is unusual, and it would be imprudent to leave it unattended. (Intelligence roll)

gotta love that [REDACTED]

>>5943072

>Intelligence gathering. You will learn all there is to know about this planet’s weaknesses, and strengths, the petty grievances between the leadership and the people, which side they have chosen for the war, etc. Knowledge is power, and with this your next move will become immensely easier. (Intelligence roll)

Better to get smart before we seek after the REDACTED info or subvert the population. Im guessing that the Fists will come looking for the pretenders if we stay too long though - we probably shouldn’t set up shop here.

>>5943072
>>Searching for the source of that [REDACTED] in your records. It is unusual, and it would be imprudent to leave it unattended. (Intelligence roll)

>>5943072
I agree with anon, we should just send Gamma Company and ourselves along with it.

>Intelligence gathering. You will learn all there is to know about this planet’s weaknesses, and strengths, the petty grievances between the leadership and the people, which side they have chosen for the war, etc. Knowledge is power, and with this your next move will become immensely easier. (Intelligence roll)
This will have us take a little extra time but is important for our subversion. I'm curious about [REDACTED] too but they're probably hiding it well.

Need a tiebreaker between [REDACTED] and Intel gathering. Will roll if there isn't one in 20 mins.

Rolled 2 (1d2)

1= [REDACTED]
2 = Intel Gathering

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It is decided. You will descend to the surface with Gamma Company, disguised as Imperial Fists on a routine check-up. As you feel the familiar shudder of the ship emerging from the warp, you turn from the bridge and descend to the hangar deck, where Kylon has assembled Gamma company and is using the chapters techmarines and some serfs to paint and outfit them in the regalia of the Imperial Fists. You quickly join them, shedding the snake skin of the Alpha Legion for another guise. After only a few hours you are ready, and as you place the MKIV helmet upon your head you see before you a full company of Imperial Fists where the Alpha Legion once stood. You do not give any speeches. The men have already been given their mission, and they need no further instruction. With Kylon at your side, you board the yellow Thunderhawks and begin your journey to the planet.

On the surface, a delegation of the planet’s leadership is already waiting for you at the landing pad. You had informed them of your arrival once the ships were painted in the Imperial Fist colours. They evidently suspect nothing. Indeed, as the gunship doors descend and you step onto the windy platform they rush towards you, smiles and joy clear on their faces.

“My Lord! King Friederich, at your disposal. It is a momentous occasion to have you here again! My father told me stories of your first arrival. To think we are graced with your presence in this hour of the Imperium’s greatest need! I must tell you our troops stand ready to fight alongside the mighty warriors of the Adeptus Astartes at your command!”

Interesting. It seems that these are fanatic loyalists, and they have already assembled a force of troops to send to the aid of the Imperium. You nod sagely, and begin walking with the king and his delegation to their halls of governance, discussing your arrival and the circumstances of the planet.

From what he tells you, the King has been raised on stories of this planet’s conquest during the Great Crusade, developing a near fanatic loyalty to the Imperium, and with the news of the civil war he has raised up what he can from the planet’s PDF to send out and contribute. A fool to your eyes, but one with deep pockets. 200 million fully equipped troops stand at the ready, and the King is offering you their command. A significant offer, but one you’re not entirely sure of. What will you do?

>Accept the Kings offer. It will be good to have expendable troops to throw at a problem.
>Refuse. They would be a nuisance. Better that they be sent off to die on a battlefield than have you managing loyalists.
>Write in?

>>5943470
Meanwhile, your men disperse themselves through the hives of the planet, ostensibly for a general tour, but all the while paying close attention to the planets institutions, the defences, the attitudes of the citizens as they pass them by. Several squads even cast off their armour, venturing deep into the underhive, forming networks of informants and agents that will slowly give you a complete picture of Biron V’s needs, fears, hopes, and all the miniscule things that govern the human mind. You inform King Friederich that you will remain here for several weeks, closely inspecting his legions before making a decision, and he is only too quick to accept. Slowly but surely, the Hydra wakes.

Roll 1d100+10 for success of your intelligence gathering. DC 30/50/70

Rolled 91 (1d100)

>>5943471
>>Accept the Kings offer. It will be good to have expendable troops to throw at a problem.

>Throw them at a Traitor Planet
>Loot and Profit?

Rolled 59 + 10 (1d100 + 10)

>>5943471
>Accept the Kings offer. It will be good to have expendable troops to throw at a problem.

this could be funny

Rolled 52 + 10 (1d100 + 10)

>>5943470
>>5943473
Nice. The first roll is 101. Great start.

>Accept the Kings offer. It will be good to have expendable troops to throw at a problem.

>>5943470

>Accept the Kings offer. It will be good to have expendable troops to throw at a problem.

Well, holy shit. There’s a lot we could do with 200 million PDF

>>5943473
Welp, looks like rolling is no longer required with that kind of a roll then. Either way, with the Ling unable to tell the difference between Traitor and Loyalists forces outside of one or maybe a couple of the legions at the outbreak, then we can either lie (really don’t like this option) and use them to raid a Loyalist system if the benefits are good enough, or naturally just use them to be used to assault some Traitor systems that are nearby that we can burn and loot and deny to the warmaster.
>Accept the Kings offer. It will be good to have expendable troops to throw at a problem.

>>5943473
>200 million PDF
I'm thinking we can throw them at a forge world or an astartes fortress, then reap the benefits. PDF are individually a nothingburger but 200 million of them? That's enough to fight a pitched planetary campaign. The best part is that they aren't even our own soldiers, so their long-term survival isn't a concern.

>>5943481
I should make it clear that 200 million PDF is a lot, but their main value is only in sheer numbers. E.g, if locked in a room together with a couple chapters of space marines they'd probably come out on top, but only just, depending how they roll. Against the bigger hitters like titans and tanks they are near useless.

>>5943502
>>5943503

Points well taken, but they would serve as a phenomenal distraction for us if nothing else.

We should be leaving this world with a shitload of aspirants as well - nothing stopping us from quickly going over-strength now that we’re going rogue

>>5943509
We were never restricted by numbers to begin with? This is the great Crusade Era, the Chapter standard as mentioned in this setting, was quite flexible. Whole “chapters” (this was what the ultramarines called a thousand strong company) could be from a couple hundred to some extreme cases like close to 10,000 members per company. It’s why we for instance could have our size beefed up to 1,500 and it not be considered overpowered or too big of a thing for some camponies, depending on the legion, the campaign history of said company, previous losses, etc. though any marines now, are not going to come into the picture unless we try and pull a Cthonia unfortunately. Normally it takes several years for a marine be judged ready to take on the armour of a space marine, and the civil war lasts at most between 7-10(wiggles hand) years long in total. At most, any recruits we get now, likely won’t become full marines until the tail-end of the Heresy or beyond unfortunately. Unless of course, we decided to go pull a Cthonia of course, which had its own pros and cons.

>>5943517
Raising new Space Marines from scratch to Great Crusade standard will take about 5 years, 4 if you rush it/roll well. Inductii take about 6 months to a year, and are generally inferior plus high risk of mutations and defects. You can also augment mortals to Space Marine standards, though that itself is risky and not worth it except for peak mortals. There's also the option of convincing other Space Marines to join you, but that's a whole 'nother can of worms.

>>5943527
What’s the equipment and training standards of this pdf army? Do they Leman russes and the like?

>>5943527
Nice! Well, if things are getting desperate/we really want to stock up on doing the whole Inductie nonesense(That was the Cthonia option I mentioned previously) then this serves as a great time-table to figure out how many men we can recruit or expect to join us before the end of the heresy.

>>5943553
They have Leman Russes but nothing better than that. Because the world has only medium industry, they can manufacture body armour and weapons, but they don't have the capacity for mass-manufacture of heavy vehicles, so they only have a scant few tanks. Equipment wise they're about equivalent to regular imperial army, not Solar Auxilia. Training standards are about the same, but these guys have little to no experience in proper warfare. Very firmly middle of the road in terms of human forces.

>>5943566
>how many men we can recruit or expect to join us before the end of the heresy.
Keep in mind that this quest (probably) won't end the instant Horus dies. You can have a staggered recruitment going with a schedule into the post-Heresy era, but the instant secret Space Marine recruitment centres are discovered the [REDACTED] are going to be all over your ass.

>>5943579
Oh, I thought it was more like, do your events in the heresy, and a tally up system occuries where, depending on the number of changes/points you've acquired by the seige, that it would result in either a minor to major change up before the duel and the death of Horus. Does that mean this can be extended into the scoruing as well? As for the inquisition, they've only got 4 people going for them and maybe a thousand knights to help them out. Besides, its not like they're going to be able to do much if we just start from scrath elsewhere in the galaxy that can be hidden from the imperium for centuries at a time. We're not the first to pull it off, and I doubt we'll be the last ones to do it either.

>>5943591
I'm not 100% on how this will all end but it definitely won't be a tally system just before the Siege starts. Then again, you could always completely fucking bite it and get wiped out before we even get to that stage, just have to wait and see.

>>5943620

I, for one, hope to stay safely outside of the crossfire and carve out a mini-Empire on the galactic fringe.

>>5943622
I don't, I want our name to be sung across the highest spires across the galaxy as Hero's that helped vanquish the great enemy and survived to live in the new Era that has come into existence with the Betrayal at Isstvan. Besides, mini-empire's on the galactic Fringe just put us on the war path of any Tyranid Tendril that comes storming into the galaxy later on, and it still isn't a garneted success of us ever being safe from discovery from the Imperium if we do hide out anyway. It might just honestly be safer to move towards the Galactic core, depending on if the Votann are a thing or not. (God I hope their not a thing.)

Tired right now, will update later. In the meantime, what Legion do you want to fight the most? Or which Legion do you want to avoid fighting the most?

>>5943803
Word Bearers.

Because no matter whether you're Loyalist, Traitor or Blackshield, fuck Erebus.

>>5943803
I agree with >>5943805
But I'd also wanna throw bands with that retard mortarion

>>5943470
>What will you do?
We abuse and take advantage of it
>Accept the Kings offer. It will be good to have expendable troops to throw at a problem.
In fact if we can create a sort of friendship with this king, his vassals and his people all the better. We can truly squeeze them of everything of note now or later on too, the fact that we have arrived in these sector means we have scouted ahead a bit. If the sector isn't too safe for the world to be taken yet, this planet could use an underground outpost made by us. Until we just claim the world.

Since we are remaining a few weeks and this world is capable of making infantry equipment, we can start recruiting/training mortal spies and infiltrators. Maybe some mortal infantry loyal to us too, we could have them train while sending down in missions the 200 millions until they are grinded down in to dust.


>>5943803
imperial fists and world eaters

>>5943803
I want to fight Raven Guard since they are our rival legion. I want to avoid fighting the Dark Angles or Ultramarines because of their statistical history as badasses who win pretty much every fight.

Rolled 3 (1d20)

>>5943803
whatever legion this is that isn't 2 or 11

>>5943803
I most want to fight the Iron Warriors because they have excellent gene-seed and tend to have high-quality wargear to loot. I least want to fight the Night Lords because they already have it hard enough without Alpharius infiltrating and subverting their legion.

>>5943805
>>5943806
I'm sorry you two had to hear it from me, but Argel Tal had it coming.

>>5943803
I want to chill with some Night Lords. I want to clown on some Sons of Horus.

>>5943803
In terms of fighting, everyone secretly wants to say Wordbearers. Just on the off chance they could find and kill Erebus no matter the chance. And indeed the same as I, fuck that man till he’s 600ft in the heart of a star. As for avoiding the most, blood Angels.

Also, has the betrayal at Isstavan already occurred yet? On what Segmentum anre we currently in right now as well? And how would we be able to carry of all of this manpower around with us?

>>5943908
>Also, has the betrayal at Isstavan already occurred yet?
Have you tried reading the quest?

You decide you will accept the King’s offer. 200 million expendable troops will go a long way in the battles ahead, even if they are nominally loyalist. You may have to keep up the Imperial Fists disguise for a little longer, but you doubt that will be an issue. There’s a distinct likelihood that these mortals don’t know much at all, and will follow whatever order you give them so long as they believe they are fighting for The Emperor and Imperium. The King is ecstatic when he hears that you are taking them, and he immediately orders his officials to begin preparations for their departure. Soon, the spaceports are busy with activity, supplies and troops being organised and transported to the waiting barges in space while your fleet waits above.

Meanwhile, you spend the time you have not currying favour with the King reviewing your agents’ reports. By all accounts the infiltration has gone excellently, and they present you with 3 key pieces of information:

The political situation here is tense, though not yet dangerous. The nobles are extremely unhappy with the King, on the verge of revolt for sending off almost half the PDF, their supposed “rightful property” were it not for the fact that the people love him, and the PDF is still loyal. There are whispers of assassination, but your men report that there is no concrete plan for a coup just yet.

They also report that they have successfully established a proper network in each major hive, and agents loyal to them have been recruited from the nobility, citizenry, and army. While you do not have total control, any actions you take from here will be made immensely easier by these mortal agents.

And lastly, your men report a persistent rumour that they have noticedin the deepest parts of the hives, wild stories about witches living among the population, echoes it is said of the Dark Days before the arrival of the Crusade. Your men would dismiss it as normal rumour-mongering if it weren’t for the persistence with which they’ve encountered these tales, and several of your lieutenants believe there is more to it than they have discovered. Very curious indeed.

You now have 200 million troops at your command, almost ready to depart. However, you have been presented with opportunities for further activity on this world, and you must decide if you will delay your departure for them or travel onwards to your next objective.

What will you do?
>Coup the King with the nobles. Risky, but with your agents in place this world should be fully under your control if you succeed.
>Encourage the nobles to revolt, then help crush the rebellion to cement the Kings loyalty. He should be indebted to any other “Imperial Fists” who come this way again.
>Spend some more time investigating these rumours of witches. There must be something more to it than mere rumours.
>Do nothing, prepare to leave with the army. You must be moving on.
>Write in?

>>5944253
>>Spend some more time investigating these rumours of witches. There must be something more to it than mere rumours.

>>5944253
>Spend some more time investigating these rumours of witches. There must be something more to it than mere rumours.
Psyker women got me acting unwise

>>5944253
>Do nothing, prepare to leave with the army. You must be moving on.
We have 200 million PDF and the transports to move them. I say we put them to use ensuring our chapter's future, spending valuable time tracking down a chaos cult doesn't get us any more men, resources, or wargear.

>>5943908
>>5943970
Istvaan V has occurred, about a month or two ago. Though the official timeline is completely fucked six ways from sunday, so events may be a little more fluid, e.g The Ultramarines aren't going to sit on their ass for 2 years waiting for the Word Bearers to come from Istvaan and stab them in the back. I may also modify some characters to be a little less retarded (but Erebus is still a dick). Segmentum will be decided later. The PDF are using their own ships they have from the lanet.

>>5944253

>Do nothing, prepare to leave with the army. You must be moving on.

Leaving with 200 million troopers is a phenomenal heist as far as I am concerned

>>5944253
>>Spend some more time investigating these rumours of witches. There must be something more to it than mere rumours.
This reeks of [REDACTED], so I'm all in for voting for this option.

>>5944264
Thanks QM, I'm happy that all things are going well then on our side of things as well as yours with the quest being written and thought out as it has been decided already.

>>5944253
>Spend some more time investigating these rumours of witches. There must be something more to it than mere rumours.

You decide that these rumours of witches are too serious to ignore, so when there is a convenient accident at the space port where a truck filled with live ammunition loses control and ploughs into a terminal, your departure is delayed by a week. You are extremely understanding, and the King is only too happy to direct his fury at his logistics officers for their incompetence. Elsewhere, in certain quiet rooms across the planet, holograph emitters come to life, displaying the 3 headed hydra.

With your agents in place, they begin making subtle inquiries among the nobility, army, and even some of the hive gangers about these obviously false rumours of witches, tall tales which mothers use to scare their children with. It would not do for their minions to start believing in ghosts now, would it? Surely there must be some source spreading this vile gossip, suggesting humans can have magic powers. Meanwhile you task several of your squads to go out searching for direct proof of these “witches” whatever, or whoever they are.

Roll 1d100+5, DC 60/90. Bo3

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>>5944676
As you wait for the planetary reports to arrive, you read up on the latest reports from Captain Cimon, who is keeping an eye on the state of the wider galaxy. In your local cluster things seem to be quiet, and he has not detected any major fleet movements, human or Astartes. The wider galaxy however…

Bloodshed in space. It is only a few months since Istvaan, and already the Imperium is unravelling. Civil war on Mars has broken out, between factions of the Mechanicum, and the planet has descended into total war, with even titan legions duelling across the Red Planet’s surface. The remnants of the 3 loyalist legions at Istvaan are still harassing Horus’s forces, but there is little these broken and shattered legions can do to stop his inexorable advance. Fleets are racing across the void to their strategic targets, and though you are no longer part of The Hydra you still have some access to The Network. Russ and the entire Space Wolves Legion has been dispatched to Prospero, for some unknown but ominous purpose. Lorgar is leading a significant part of his Word Bearers to Ultramar, the real Imperial Fists are racing towards Cthonia, and across the entire imperium fires are starting, systems declaring for either side or simply descending into senseless bloodshed. You have no doubt that soon the entire galaxy will be engulfed, the small fires growing into blazes which will burn the Imperium to ash, no matter the winner. War will consume the galaxy, striking at the very heart of the Imperium and the Emperor’s ideals of prosperity and hope, and there is no telling what will be left once it is ended. A grim, dark future awaits.

What is your attitude towards this civil war?
>Ambivalent. It is the way of humanity, to return to war and conflict. Perhaps it was inevitable, perhaps not. But you will not let these nebulous ideas trouble you, all you need to do is to survive.
>Regretful. The Emperor’s ideals were a chance for humanity to better itself, but now they will be scattered to the wind by Horus’ ambition, even if He were to win. A shame indeed.
>Disgusted. Horus is ambitious and The Emperor is a fool. How could He not see this coming? How could Horus betray all that he has fought and stood for? The Tyrant and The Traitor are little different.
>Write in?

Rolled 61 + 5 (1d100 + 5)

>>5944676
>>5944677
Write in
>Amused: We know better than most that all men wear masks. That the masks worn by the best of humanity and his progeny were hiding the seething faces of tantrumning, overgrown children is...simply hilarious. For all their lofty ideals and beliefs, they burn the galaxy In a fit of pique and wounded pride.

Rolled 91 + 5 (1d100 + 5)

>>5944677
>Ambitious: Our primarch was a master of game theory and ladder climbing so of course he encouraged those traits in his sons. Chaos is a ladder.

>>5944677
Of all the legions, for some parts of the 20th to go renegade is the most in character. Whose to say this is not part of the great plan?

Rolled 81 + 5 (1d100 + 5)

>>5944676

Rolling

>>5944677

>Disgusted. Horus is ambitious and The Emperor is a fool. How could He not see this coming? How could Horus betray all that he has fought and stood for? The Tyrant and The Traitor are little different.

Honestly, we’re smarter than both of these idiots

>>5944677
>>Ambivalent. It is the way of humanity, to return to war and conflict. Perhaps it was inevitable, perhaps not. But you will not let these nebulous ideas trouble you, all you need to do is to survive.

>>5944677
>Disgusted. Horus is ambitious and The Emperor is a fool. How could He not see this coming? How could Horus betray all that he has fought and stood for? The Tyrant and The Traitor are little different.

>>5944677
>Disgusted. Horus is ambitious and The Emperor is a fool. How could He not see this coming? How could Horus betray all that he has fought and stood for? The Tyrant and The Traitor are little different.

>>5944677
>Amused: We know better than most that all men wear masks. That the masks worn by the best of humanity and his progeny were hiding the seething faces of tantrumning, overgrown children is...simply hilarious. For all their lofty ideals and beliefs, they burn the galaxy In a fit of pique and wounded pride.

>>5944677
>>Disgusted. Horus is ambitious and The Emperor is a fool. How could He not see this coming? How could Horus betray all that he has fought and stood for? The Tyrant and The Traitor are little different.

>>5944677
>>5944681

Switching to

>>>Ambivalent. It is the way of humanity, to return to war and conflict. Perhaps it was inevitable, perhaps not. But you will not let these nebulous ideas trouble you, all you need to do is to survive.

>>5944704
Same, switching to Ambivalent as well. Feelings don’t matter to renegades that need to survive in order to plan out their next move.

>>5944677
>Ambivalent. It is the way of humanity, to return to war and conflict. Perhaps it was inevitable, perhaps not. But you will not let these nebulous ideas trouble you, all you need to do is to survive.

>>5944680
Switching to disgusted

>>5944699
>>>Ambivalent. It is the way of humanity, to return to war and conflict. Perhaps it was inevitable, perhaps not. But you will not let these nebulous ideas trouble you, all you need to do is to survive.

Switching as well.

>>5944677
>Write in
>>Amused: We know better than most that all men wear masks. That the masks worn by the best of humanity and his progeny were hiding the seething faces of tantrumning, overgrown children is...simply hilarious. For all their lofty ideals and beliefs, they burn the galaxy In a fit of pique and wounded pride.

>>5944677

>Amused: We know better than most that all men wear masks. That the masks worn by the best of humanity and his progeny were hiding the seething faces of tantrumning, overgrown children is...simply hilarious. For all their lofty ideals and beliefs, they burn the galaxy In a fit of pique and wounded pride.

>>5944279
We could grab more. Maybe wealth or something else. Or recruiting

>>Ambivalent. It is the way of humanity, to return to war and conflict. Perhaps it was inevitable, perhaps not. But you will not let these nebulous ideas trouble you, all you need to do is to survive.

>>Disgusted. Horus is ambitious and The Emperor is a fool. How could He not see this coming? How could Horus betray all that he has fought and stood for? The Tyrant and The Traitor are little different.

>>5944677
>Ambivalent. It is the way of humanity, to return to war and conflict. Perhaps it was inevitable, perhaps not. But you will not let these nebulous ideas trouble you, all you need to do is to survive.

>>5944677
This is >>5944262, as my IP's probably changed again. I'll back
>Amused: We know better than most that all men wear masks. That the masks worn by the best of humanity and his progeny were hiding the seething faces of tantrumning, overgrown children is...simply hilarious. For all their lofty ideals and beliefs, they burn the galaxy In a fit of pique and wounded pride.
As I feel like it fits a renegade Alpha Legion commander.

>>5943473
>>5944681
I just realized that both of our info gathering rolls are 91. I know the Alpha Legion is supposed to be good at spywork but this is insane.

>>5944937
We're the Alpha Legion, its in our blood to be exactly that amount of stealthy with our shit when it comes to spies and subterfuge.

>>5944723
>>5944724
>>5944898
>Amused

>>5944685
>>5944718
>>5944698
>>5944703
>>5944853
>Disgusted

>>5944688
>>5944704
>>5944710
>>5944714
>>5944721
>>5944736
>>5944867
>Ambivalent

If I've tallied it right, it looks like ambivalent is the winner, on top of an excellent success for the roll. Writing.

You look at Captain Cimon’s reports with indifference. The Astartes were bred for war, and this is simply another war amongst the stars. “War is duty, your duty war, and that is all you know and all you need to know.” If conflict is in the blood of humanity, as transhumans it is an even more innate part of your physiology, an inevitable outcome for living weapons of war. You do not worry much about the reasons for this conflict, only that you may have to deal with your cousin legions in time, traitors and loyalists both. All that matters is your own survival. Not The Emperor, not Horus, only you. You will not get drawn into the ideological conflicts or petty grievances between the legions and their primarchs, spending your life recklessly for some nebulous ideal that will wither in the ashes. No, you will survive, and your plans will be dedicated to that single objective above all others. Flexibility will be your watchword, a suitable outlook for a renegade who won’t deign to bow to the Loyalists and Traitors.

But then again, who is there to say that a full chapter of Space Marines might not have its uses later on? There are plans within plans, and there are many heads of the Hydra, watching, waiting, ready to strike when the enemy is weakest.

You put away the reports from Cimon when the auspex starts pinging with the response of your surface agents. You eagerly look through them with interest, wondering what they have found regarding the source of these “witch” stories.

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>>5945196
There is a glut of information, too much for a human mind to digest without significant aid, but you are not human. Much of it is from gangers and the law enforcement of the hives, reports of lynchings or hidden deals, and while none of it is direct, and much contradictory, with all the disparate parts at your disposal you can sift through the intelligence and piece it together.

The conclusion is obvious: Psykers. The profiles match your records and what little was spread among the legions before Nuceria. Though the Alpha Legion has comparatively few psykers among its ranks, and officially has never had librarians, you are still aware of their importance, and danger. An untrained psyker can either read a mind or destroy the minds of those around it. You have even heard rumours among agents of The Network that the psykers of the Word Bearers can summon forth strange beasts that obey their commands, though you have never seen verified proof of these claims. Locating psykers on this world is indeed an important discovery. You notice there has also been some talk about an incident of these witches being taken away by unsettling figures wearing ornate armour, but there is frustratingly scant elaboration.

Turning from the report of your agents, you look to the squads you dispatched to directly investigate. It seems that they have reached much the same conclusion as yourself, and what’s more, they have begun identifying and discreetly tagging several individuals who they believe may have latent or hidden powers! So far they have identified several hundred in all, across all hives of the planet. It is a pitiful amount compared to the men the King is granting you, but these will have a value all of their own.

What will you do now?
>Order your squads to begin capturing them. Risky, especially if fights break out, but you must have these psykers.
>Convince the psykers to come with you. Your men, the Emperor’s Angels of Death will take them to serve in the stars, where they can make use of their abilities freely and without fear.
>Talk to the King and ask him for a favour. It won’t risk your men, but you will be relying on mortals to undertake a very delicate operation.
>Leave them be. There is a reason the Emperor issued the Edict of Nikaea. You will not dabble in sorcery.
>Write in?

>>5945197
Hmm, psykers...
>Leave them be. There is a reason the Emperor issued the Edict of Nikaea. You will not dabble in sorcery.
>>Subtly tip off local enforcers to their whereabouts so that they can be dealt with before they can become a problem.
Psykers are too dangerous and we are too ignorant of the Warp to risk them.

>>5945206

Supporting. We’re too pragmatic to deal with such an unknown resource. Better keep our hands off.

>>5945220
Once we've seen psykers into action we can look into bootstrapping a pet cabal, but taking them into our chapter is just BEGGING for Chaos corruption. I don't have a problem with Chaos but I'd prefer we tried to go independent and only resorted to it if all else was lost.

>>5945197
Hmm, leaving them alone is just a problem waiting to cause itself, and it means following the Edict of Nikaea which is fucking retarded. Sending in either or men or the kings will cause a terrible situation to unfold, and tipping pdf about them while okay does mean that we lose out on several hundred psykers that are all just sitting their that could be a valuable asset to us either on the war front or divination choirs that can be used to tell which systems are going to be siding with which faction, and the strength or weakness of noth factions depending on when and where they show up. After all, pragmatism isnt just about being ruthless, its using all your tools on hand, and this most certainly merits that analogy in this case.
>Convince the psykers to come with you. Your men, the Emperor’s Angels of Death will take them to serve in the stars, where they can make use of their abilities freely and without fear.

>>5945230
Oh, it also means we can scan the psykers in question for their compatability with our geneseed and see if we can make some Librarians of our own once we can induct them into our ranks, so theres that as well. After that, they can spend time with whatever psykers that we have that have special techniques on their discipline and use that advice to hone their skills with using the warp to be better at their work then they previously would have been otherwise since we have very little experience with using large amounts of psykers of any type in the legion.

>>5945230
Supporting
I want some librarians, and we are absolutely going to need them once demons start popping out on the regular.

>>5945253
Meant this, sorry
> Supporting

>>5945230
+1

>>5945197
>>Convince the psykers to come with you. Your men, the Emperor’s Angels of Death will take them to serve in the stars, where they can make use of their abilities freely and without fear.

>>5945197#
>>Convince the psykers to come with you. Your men, the Emperor’s Angels of Death will take them to serve in the stars, where they can make use of their abilities freely and without fear.

>>5945230
+1-arino

You can’t pass this opportunity up. Though you are aware of the risks, that the Edict of Nikaea wasn’t passed just to placate Russ and Mortarion, the potential benefits are too valuable to ignore. Psykers, even unaugmented humans, are an immense boon on the battlefield, able to direct their power to utterly destroy even the toughest enemy or detect the most hidden infiltrator. Indeed, it had been a problem for several of your agents in years past, mind readers in the other legions rendering infiltration attempts pointless until they had learned to close and disguise their mind, but it is not an easily learned skill. But if you have psykers on your side, you can manipulate and bend targets to your will, while also keeping a vigilant watch for any who would seek to use their psychic powers against yourself. The major risk of course is in taking them on in the first place, since these witches are likely to be untrained, and you will have to determine how you will use them once you depart. You have even heard rumours of darker things, especially regarding the Thousand Sons, but due to their psychic nature there had been few agents with actionable intelligence on them, and the most damning claims had come from the least unbiased elements from their rival legions. You doubt even the Twins could have infiltrated them without trouble. But, if you can train these psykers and induct them into the Orphans of Lerna, who knows what they may bring to your force?

Roll to convince the psykers to join you. 1d100-5 from loyalist planet. DC 75. Bo3.

Now that you have the beginnings of what looks like a proper fighting force, how will you treat any human auxiliaries you manage to recruit?
>As expendables. Your Marines are the real weapon of war, a scalpel to cut through the enemy once they have been battered with these mortals.
>As a fighting force due their respect. Though they are no Astartes, they are still a valuable tool to have, and you will not waste them.
>On a case by case basis. Planetary PDF like this are only worth their numbers, while veterans from the Imperial Army or even Solar Auxilia are useful as more than a blunt instrument wielded by the likes of Perturabo.
>Write in.

Rolled 53 - 5 (1d100 - 5)

>>5945562
>On a case by case basis. Planetary PDF like this are only worth their numbers, while veterans from the Imperial Army or even Solar Auxilia are useful as more than a blunt instrument wielded by the likes of Perturabo.
As a Renegade, we must be cautious and discerning.

>>5945562

“This world is doomed and I can offer you a way out.”

>On a case by case basis. Planetary PDF like this are only worth their numbers, while veterans from the Imperial Army or even Solar Auxilia are useful as more than a blunt instrument wielded by the likes of Perturabo.

Rolled 17 + 5 (1d100 + 5)

>>5945562
>On a case by case basis. Planetary PDF like this are only worth their numbers, while veterans from the Imperial Army or even Solar Auxilia are useful as more than a blunt instrument wielded by the likes of Perturabo.

Rolled 38 + 5 (1d100 + 5)

>>5945562
>On a case by case basis. Planetary PDF like this are only worth their numbers, while veterans from the Imperial Army or even Solar Auxilia are useful as more than a blunt instrument wielded by the likes of Perturabo.

>>5945562
>>On a case by case basis. Planetary PDF like this are only worth their numbers, while veterans from the Imperial Army or even Solar Auxilia are useful as more than a blunt instrument wielded by the likes of Perturabo.

Rolled 7 + 5 (1d100 + 5)

>>5945562
Good grief, so that’s where all of those high rolls went after two 96’s. Sigh, well there goes that option then, either way I’m going to be voting on a case by case basis because treating all Auxiliary forces as expendable is just silly.
>On a case by case basis. Planetary PDF like this are only worth their numbers, while veterans from the Imperial Army or even Solar Auxilia are useful as more than a blunt instrument wielded by the likes of Perturabo.

>>5945615
Makes sense. We are good at intelligence, scheming, and infiltration. We may get a couple of psykers but not most. This is likely for the best.

Are we the good or bad guys?

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You instruct your men to approach them openly as Imperial Fists, to try and convince them to come with The Emperor’s Angels of Death, to live a life among the stars where they will not be persecuted for their strange abilities that draw the ire of the people around them. A life where they will be taught to use their abilities, instead of them erupting uncontrollably and dooming them to a life of seclusion, isolation, or even death at the hands of an angry mob.

Somehow it doesn’t go well. These people have heard of the Edict of Nikaea, and they are already suspicious towards any outsiders, the Emperor’s Angels or no. They won’t join some damn fool idealistic crusade, not when their lives are already at stake. Indeed, from what you gather it seems these people already expect to be taken away by some other force, and they are mor afraid of it than they are of you. At best you get a few children who enthusiastically agree, only to be refused by their parents and caretakers who jealously guard what little they have in the world.

It looks like they won’t go meekly. You can order your men to kidnap them regardless, but that would risk blowing your cover, while also angering these supposed civilians. Alternatively, you can kidnap a few specimens for experiments, psykers are rare and even among the librarius their abilities are not fully understood, though you doubt you’ll get anything immediately usable from them.

What will you do?
>Kidnap all of them. They are too valuable to pass up, and you have no guarantee you’ll fine more again.
>Take only a few for experimentation. It won’t risk your cover and you need to know more about these psykers.
>Leave. You won’t waste any more time with these witches.

>>5946124
Once you give the order you look over the final preparations for the departure of the planet’s PDF. The space port has been repaired and the last of the troops are embarking on the tugs that will take them to the behemoth transports that wait in orbit next to your fleet. The PDF is under the command of a General Culn, who has been ordered by his king to be obedient to you, though he has direct command of the entire expeditionary force. Your agents report he is a proud, yet capable commander, constantly training his troops to maintain standards, and superstitious, prone to relying on cards or “signs” to guide his decisions. Something that may be of use later.

The Biron Ist Expeditionary Force [PDF Force]

I Infantry Corps: 50 million men
II Infantry Corps: 50 million men
III Infantry Corps: 50 million men
IV Mechanised Corps: 50 million men

The Biron Ist are PDF, Human, and loyal.

Now that preparations are nearly complete, you contact Cimon aboard the Asclepius, to inform him that your departure and return to the flagship is imminent. As you see him appear on the pict-screen, you also notice beside him the…

Pick ONE.
>Primus Medicae. Chief of your apothecarions, his knowledge of Astartes biology is extensive, and will be an immense advantage in recovery from battles, or the creation of new aspirants from your gene-seed. (Better rolls when treating wounded and dealing with aspirants)
>Forge Lord. The head of your techmarines, it is his ultimate responsibility to repair and maintain your equipment and armour, particularly the Lernaean terminators and dreadnoughts. (Unlocks ability to make better equipment if you have the facilities, and better tech related rolls.)
>Librarian. You only have the one, but he has proven the value of his esoteric powers on past battlefields, and you will not foolishly discard the powers he wields. (Unlocks psychic abilities)
>Chaplain. Though his is a strange role, not quite officer, not quite soldier, he enforces cohesion among your troops, and acts as a useful ear to the whispers that fly among them. (Unlocks troop morale and loyalty.)
>Moritat. A silent one, but deadly. Possibly one of your most experienced agents, but one who no longer cares if he lives or dies in pursuit of his mission. (+20 to the company he’s assigned to, but if they fail he dies)

I was going to leave this vote for later, but I'll be away for the weekend so here's something to argue over until I return. Hydra Dominatus

>>5946105
Up to you. Though, are there really any good guys in the grim darkness of the far future?

>>5946124

>Take only a few for experimentation. It won’t risk your cover and you need to know more about these psykers.

We have to know more about them if we are to use them in the future.

>>5946125

>Primus Medicae. Chief of your apothecarions, his knowledge of Astartes biology is extensive, and will be an immense advantage in recovery from battles, or the creation of new aspirants from your gene-seed. (Better rolls when treating wounded and dealing with aspirants)

Having a rock solid Medicae group is probably the most important to chapter survival

>>5946105
It’s more difficult as renegades, but if your willing to do a lot to survive without just oozing with hundreds of broken war crimes per planet we find, then I think that would count as being a good person.
As for choices, considering we’re still in Imperial fist colours and nobody knows we’re from a Traiotors legion, we can get away with it by proclaiming these people as violating the Edict of Nichea by using their powers of Warcraft instead of submitting it and themselves to imperial authority should things become public knowledge to the planet in question. And choosing Primus because we can get a librarian from everyone we capture and the other people save the Forge lord are something we can naturally find or attract from other legions in the galaxy that won’t shoot us in the face , or are willing to join with us in order to avoid getting killed in a bloody last stand. Also, we can probably find a young Tech adept from a forge world somewhere and have him learn on the fly how to better work our tech and repairs and so on.
>Primus Medicae. Chief of your apothecarions, his knowledge of Astartes biology is extensive, and will be an immense advantage in recovery from battles, or the creation of new aspirants from your gene-seed. (Better rolls when treating wounded and dealing with aspirants)
>Kidnap all of them. They are too valuable to pass up, and you have no guarantee you’ll fine more again.

>>5946124
>>Kidnap all of them. They are too valuable to pass up, and you have no guarantee you’ll fine more again.
>>5946125
>>Primus Medicae. Chief of your apothecarions, his knowledge of Astartes biology is extensive, and will be an immense advantage in recovery from battles, or the creation of new aspirants from your gene-seed. (Better rolls when treating wounded and dealing with aspirants)

>>5946125
Hmm...

>>5946144
I agree with and support this. Everything else we can substitute, but medical care and future recruitment of astartes is indispensable. The thing about Forge Lord is, as tempting as he is, we can take as much wargear as we can pillage anyway.

>>5946105
We are Alpharius. I think our goal should be to amass a huge fleet with a lot of technical expertise, loot every planet we've managed to subvert for all they're worth, and then leave to get as far away from the imperial core as we can to start our own pocket empire. That's what the Ashen Claws did and it worked excellently for them.

>>5946125
>Take only a few for experimentation. It won’t risk your cover and you need to know more about these psykers.

>Forge Lord. The head of your techmarines, it is his ultimate responsibility to repair and maintain your equipment and armour, particularly the Lernaean terminators and dreadnoughts. (Unlocks ability to make better equipment if you have the facilities, and better tech related rolls.)

>>5946124
What will you do?
>Take only a few for experimentation. It won’t risk your cover and you need to know more about these psykers.
>>5946125
Pick ONE.
>Forge Lord. The head of your techmarines, it is his ultimate responsibility to repair and maintain your equipment and armour, particularly the Lernaean terminators and dreadnoughts. (Unlocks ability to make better equipment if you have the facilities, and better tech related rolls.)

>>5946125
>Take only a few for experimentation. It won’t risk your cover and you need to know more about these psykers.

>Primus Medicae. Chief of your apothecarions, his knowledge of Astartes biology is extensive, and will be an immense advantage in recovery from battles, or the creation of new aspirants from your gene-seed. (Better rolls when treating wounded and dealing with aspirants)

>>5946124
>>Primus Medicae. Chief of your apothecarions, his knowledge of Astartes biology is extensive, and will be an immense advantage in recovery from battles, or the creation of new aspirants from your gene-seed. (Better rolls when treating wounded and dealing with aspirants)
>>Kidnap all of them. They are too valuable to pass up, and you have no guarantee you’ll fine more again.

Need to keep our numbers up and the psykers are a rare resource.

>>5946255
>We are Alpharius.
You mean, Omegon, right?

The Horus Heresy will be updating a little later today.

>>5948472
We have been lied, just like our Brothers on Isstvan it seems.

You notice the Primus Medicae standing a little behind Captain Cimon, and once Cimon has made his report you nod to Medicae Aelius, who steps closer to the screen. Unlike most other legions, the apothecaries of the Alpha Legion wear no heraldry or white colours; the only symbol denoting them as Apothecaries is the faint Prime Helix on their left shoulder, so faint that only their brothers can see it, a practice put into place so that they do not get targeted in battle. Then again, the Alpha Legion is one of the only legions who would target Apothecaries at all, a practice considered dishonourable by most of your cousins. All the better for you, then.

“My Lord.”

You nod, and let him continue.

“All is well. The surplus gene-seed is secure, and my apothecaries report full readiness for the operations to come. We only await your command.”

Your surplus gene-seed is about 250 gene-seed you have to spare, for replacement purposes. After a battle, you must recover your fallen brothers’ gene-seed or it will be lost. This surplus gene-seed is meant to replace any permanent losses you inadvertently suffer, though it can also be used to create new troops, expending the surplus. You may also recover the gene-seed of those you defeat in battle, though this will come with potential complications.

You thank him for his report, and dismiss both him and the captain, before pinging your brothers to head to the Thunderhawk for your departure. As you board the Thunderhawk, the sycophantic King and his officials bidding you farewell with fireworks and a full day of celebration in the city, you review the report of your squads tasked with kidnapping some of the psykers. Of the psykers you recovered, they grabbed those least likely to resist, the young and old, about 100 in all, and have imprisoned them aboard your ships without issue. While you do not have any psykers of your own to keep them in check, a liberal application of narcotics from your apothecaries has put them in a state of total unconsciousness through an artificial coma, and they will not wake unless a counter-cocktail is applied.

What will be the method of experimentation your apothecaries will undertake on these psykers?
>Invasive. Sure to guarantee results, but highly likely to damage your specimens, perhaps permanently.
>Balanced. An even hand is sometimes better than the rod and carrot. The specimens will be pushed, but not to the point of expiry.
>Gentle. They will focus on preserving the specimens, and while it guarantees that you’ll keep them in good health, it may take awhile for results.
>Leave the psykers in suspended animation be for now. It is good enough that you have them in your hands.

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>>5948986
When you alight on the Asclepius’s hangar the whole space is abuzz with activity of techmarines and chapter hands preparing for departure. When you arrive at the bridge Captain Cimon and Kylon are waiting for you, and you can see the ships of the Biron Expeditionary Force moving into formation. All is nearly ready. You think this world has been quite the success all told, a sizeable human auxiliary force and the recovery of a small amount of psykers, all without a single loss. The Heads of the Hydra are many, and they are constantly growing. All that is left is to decide your next destination. As you step towards the main hololith, which projects into a space as tall as a knight, you see before you a holo-picture of…

>Segmentum Pacificus, the smallest of the Segmentums outside Solar. It contains highly strategic backroutes to Terra, along with the Word Bearers homeworld of Colchis. There is also a significant amount of undiscovered country to the Galactic West, some of which was never touched by the Great Crusade…
>Segmentum Tempestus. A rich segmentum, containing the Imperial Fist homeworld Inwit, the Death Guard homeworld Barbarus, and Deliverance homeworld of the Raven Guard. It also contains one of the largest clusters of Forge Worlds in the galaxy, the Belt of Iron, sure to be an important battleground if Horus does not take Terra by the end of the year.
>Segmentum Obscurus. A dark and dangerous Segmentum, infamous for the great Eye of Terror, known for the many strange and curious phenomena that lurk between its spaces, such as the Halo Stars. Contains The Iron Hands homeworld Medusa, the Dark Angels homeworld Caliban, and the home of the Space Wolves, Fenris.
>Ultima Segmentum. By far the largest of the Segmentums, it contains everything the galaxy has to offer, including innumerable hiding places. But you also know that it is certain to be where the greatest battles of this war will be fought, particularly around Guilliman’s realm of Ultramar and the road to Terra. Contains the homeworlds of the Thousand Sons, World Eaters, Emperors Children, Ultramarines, Night Lords, Salamanders, Blood Angels, White Scars, and Iron Warriors; at Prospero, Bodt, Chemos, Ultramar, Nostramo, Nocturne, Baal, Chogoris, and Olympia, respectively.

>>5948890
I may be slightly loose with my definition of "little"

>>5948988
>>Segmentum Tempestus. A rich segmentum, containing the Imperial Fist homeworld Inwit, the Death Guard homeworld Barbarus, and Deliverance homeworld of the Raven Guard. It also contains one of the largest clusters of Forge Worlds in the galaxy, the Belt of Iron, sure to be an important battleground if Horus does not take Terra by the end of the year.

>>5948986

>Balanced. An even hand is sometimes better than the rod and carrot. The specimens will be pushed, but not to the point of expiry.

Patient is a virtue, here.

>>5948988

>Segmentum Pacificus, the smallest of the Segmentums outside Solar. It contains highly strategic backroutes to Terra, along with the Word Bearers homeworld of Colchis. There is also a significant amount of undiscovered country to the Galactic West, some of which was never touched by the Great Crusade…

I say we make for the galactic west, and try to stay out of the larger conflict in the process.

>>5948986
>>5948988
oh shit i forgot about this part.
>Balanced. An even hand is sometimes better than the rod and carrot. The specimens will be pushed, but not to the point of expiry.
and
>>5948992

>>5948986
>>Balanced. An even hand is sometimes better than the rod and carrot. The specimens will be pushed, but not to the point of expiry.

Provided this quest lasts long enough, I have two goals. Preventing our primarch's death and playing a role in the Siege of Terra. To accomplish this we will need to be operating in the background throughout the heresy and in a position to act when needed with the resources required. We also must maintain our masks. A secondary goal of mine is also to reconnect to The Network.

>Ultima Segmentum. By far the largest of the Segmentums, it contains everything the galaxy has to offer, including innumerable hiding places. But you also know that it is certain to be where the greatest battles of this war will be fought, particularly around Guilliman’s realm of Ultramar and the road to Terra. Contains the homeworlds of the Thousand Sons, World Eaters, Emperors Children, Ultramarines, Night Lords, Salamanders, Blood Angels, White Scars, and Iron Warriors; at Prospero, Bodt, Chemos, Ultramar, Nostramo, Nocturne, Baal, Chogoris, and Olympia, respectively.

I say we make for Ultrimar and try to recruit more Alpha Legionnaires before they try and assassinate Guiliman and thus grow our numbers.

>>5948993
+1

I am also down with raiding Colchis for that sweet sweet lore before the Lion destroys the planet. That is also an interesting idea. We could try and infiltrate and extract resources/manpower from the traitor home worlds before they are destroyed. That is exactly the kind of fuckery that the Alpha Legion would do.

>>5948988
>Balanced. An even hand is sometimes better than the rod and carrot. The specimens will be pushed, but not to the point of expiry.
>Ultima Segmentum. By far the largest of the Segmentums, it contains everything the galaxy has to offer, including innumerable hiding places. But you also know that it is certain to be where the greatest battles of this war will be fought, particularly around Guilliman’s realm of Ultramar and the road to Terra. Contains the homeworlds of the Thousand Sons, World Eaters, Emperors Children, Ultramarines, Night Lords, Salamanders, Blood Angels, White Scars, and Iron Warriors; at Prospero, Bodt, Chemos, Ultramar, Nostramo, Nocturne, Baal, Chogoris, and Olympia, respectively.

Warzone Ultima Segmentum here we go
No shortage of things to do here.

>>5948997
>Supporting
Like the idea, and it enables us to have a large sway over the course of events that can go down in Ultima. I would have honestly preferred the Iron belt, because of the sheer brutality that that fuck up of a war turned out to be, for both sides but this pleases me just as well at the end because all of the players we can fuck around with in the other 50% of the galaxy that were in.

>>5949029
Also, I want to help the thousands from the wolves, and so that’s another reason why, especially since the razing hasn’t occurred just yet.

>>5948997
Supporting

>>5949030
Interesting idea. Perhaps we could use our psykers to send a message. If the Nightlords can send a shriek that penetrates the astrophathic choirs through torture alone then we can probably do something similar with patented Alpha Legion bullshit.

>>5949293
Agreed, especially if we can cause patterns and astropathic signals that can be used to be masked as other sources, for instance a direct message from Horus Lupercal relating that the Emperor wants the thousands to immediately depart their home system and to make way to a [X-Star System] to be judged for all of their psychic actions performed prior to, and after the Edict of Nikea, as they and Magnus swore that they would never use again. Alternatively, could just pop in as a force of Space Wolfs and tell them that we are seeking their assistance against the Treachery of the Warmaster, and that the Emperor requires their aid immediately, and to beware of traps and assaults launched by the Warmaster against prospero, as we relay the betrayals at Isstavan to them and the legions already confirmed to be Traitor, or forces already broken from other legions to be traitors.

It would completely spoil the surprise Russ used to launch the assault, and completely through his orders into chaos, as a portion of his son’s that aren’t part of his main force (which makes sense as he only managed to rally together about a 1/3 of his entire legion before the Razing of Prospero and the Revalation of Horus’s betrayal) are talking about Horus betraying the Emperor and killing 3 of his brothers in one fell swoop, a completely unthinkable action that would completely shatter his confidence in what he was going to do, and make him recheck back with Terra to confirm what the hell is going on in the rest of the galaxy to see if that was true or not.

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>>5948988
>>5948997
So glad that Ultima Segmentum is going to win. Time to do some recruiting.

>>5949327
Bar in mind, we’ve only got 250 units of geneseed on hand, any more we want to use for recruitment is either going to need to come from our fallen, anothe Alpha Legion company giving us their geneseed, or just straight up using other legions geneseed and just hypo indoctrination into thinking their an Alpha legionarie and not one of the other legions instead.

>>5949330
That's the surplus gene-seed, i.e. what we have on hand and readily implantable. Every astartes carry two gene-seeds. One in the throat and one in the chest. Geneseed matures every five to ten years. Also, we can steal is from the Ultramarines. Last, geneseed is easier to gather now since there is more of it around due to the primarchs still being around and the lack of mutations rendering it non harvestable.

>>5949340
Surplus? So, wait does that mean that we have enough nominal geneseed to outfit from the entire company from both geneseed? Pretty massive if so, but I remember that usually you can only get one geneseed per marine, as one of them is directly behind a marines reinforced bone plate, and who’s extraction almost always results in death so they just leave it in until said death already occurs and takes it out of the chest cavity otherwise. As for the neck part, yeah I know about that, it’s why it’s almost always harvested in the first place once those 5 to 10 years occur as it’s safer to extract it then the chest one.

As for how we get any of it, I know that. Most of what you argue is exactly what I argued in the first place we were going to have to acquire in the first place to get new marines. As for Primarchs, yes that does mean theirs more geneseed, but you aren’t just going to convince one to become a blood bank by making millions of geneseeds all over the place in every ship you and your legion possess either? So unless Omegon and Alpharius decide to visit us, not kill us for desertion, and decided to then give us some extra geneseed, I don’t really get how the primarch part comes into play with how we get new geneseed to harvest and use to grow our numbers?

>>5949374
I can explain. Geneseed is much harder to come by in 40k due to most of it being locked down on mars and being tithed from the chapters so they can't grow their numbers past 1,000 under the guise of testing it for mutations. Currently, there is less need to conserve gene seed and guard it zealously. Yes, it is still heavily secured but not to the degree it will be later. With the primarchs around there is less need to conserve gene-seed compared to later since the legions can rapidly replenish their stores and therefore it should slightly be easier to come by now.

>>5949313
Why would we strengthen the Imperium and make future operations harder for ourselves? We aren't Loyalists.

>>5948986
What will be the method of experimentation your apothecaries will undertake on these psykers?
>Balanced. An even hand is sometimes better than the rod and carrot. The specimens will be pushed, but not to the point of expiry.
>>5948988
>Ultima Segmentum. By far the largest of the Segmentums, it contains everything the galaxy has to offer, including innumerable hiding places. But you also know that it is certain to be where the greatest battles of this war will be fought, particularly around Guilliman’s realm of Ultramar and the road to Terra. Contains the homeworlds of the Thousand Sons, World Eaters, Emperors Children, Ultramarines, Night Lords, Salamanders, Blood Angels, White Scars, and Iron Warriors; at Prospero, Bodt, Chemos, Ultramar, Nostramo, Nocturne, Baal, Chogoris, and Olympia, respectively.

>>5949382
Ah, that explains it. Fair enough on that front then, it takes millenia for geneseed to crack and mutate, especially with the more extreme altered space Marines, like the Salamanders or Space Wolfs. So, if we did manage to acquire a safe space hide and use as our base of operations, before keeping comms with geneseed stocks being placed around thanks to our infiltration and geneseed production practices, then we could very easily get into the business of making thousands of marines once a decade if we set up our recruiting infrastructure safely from the eyes of the future heirs of Malcador and our more corrupted kindred.

>>5949385
In part because the imperium as of canon, is something ridiculously easy to work with and operate under, rather then just leaving things progress like canon without our intervention, so aiming for something akin to it doesn’t really make things more harder for us so long as the kind of things that we want get preserved, and not mutated and warped. That’s why I’m always going to be hedging my bets with an imperium, and not a warmaster, because one of them has a habit of focusing on other problems it needs to focus on and enact projects that take it away from dealing with constant exploration and defence from future threats. Horus, on the other hand, with all the backing of Chaos, would have none of that restriction, and if he notices our existence and use as a tool, he will either hunt us down and try to bargain with us to serve him, or kill us if we don’t. With no in-between with him, rather then someone like a bunch of highlords that were hastily installed after their predecessors got killed in the seige, we are far safer in the long term for our independence and health, to work under the shadow of the imperium that can be given the slip and disappear into the void, then the other faction that deals with Magic and demons. Plus, it also allows us to get a bunch of sorcerer trained TS that are going to have a great amount of trust under us, and listen to some of our suggestions and follow under us, then we are if we just to stay underground and get nothing while prospero burns and Magnus sells the souls of all of his sons to Tzeentch, before dipping out and not getting involved with the rest of the Heresy till the seige.

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You view the map of the Ultima Segmentum. Home to a full half of the legions, it is sure to be a bitterly contested battleground in the year to come. Now that the Istvaan affair has been concluded, you are sure that Horus and his compatriots are rushing with all speed to Terra to conquer the Imperium’s seat of power and crown Horus as it’s ruler, though you harbour some doubts as to whether even Horus can accomplish such a feat. There is of course The Emperor, but even ignoring the defences of the Sol System prepared by the Imperial Fists there are also the worlds that lie between Istvaan and Terra; Phall, Paramar, Voss Prime, and Beta-Garmon; and Horus has already lost the element of surprise. No, it is more likely that instead of a short march on Terra this will be a long, drawn-out campaign, one which will draw in all the Imperium into a bloody conflict that will be remembered for generations. You must then plan accordingly, for the Ultima Segmentum will be the site of fierce battles between those forces seeking to bring battle to Horus before he reaches Terra, and those who oppose them. Already you know that The Wolves are burning towards Prospero, the Emperor’s Executioners likely on their way to bring Magnus and his sorcerous ways to heel, while Lorgar and his Word Bearers are racing to Ultramar, the most distant of all the Emperor’s realms, and you doubt they will be there to enlist Guilliman and his Ultramarines for Horus’s cause. But beyond that, unless you find a way to directly connect to The Network again or capture a member of Horus’s inner circle, you will not be able to tell the movements of the other legions. Still, you can make an educated guess to where conflict will break out, and where it will not. It will be up to you to decide where your fleet will venture, whether to influence a particular battleground or to gather and grow your forces so the Hydra may strike at the opportune moment. All you have to do is give Captain Cimon the order, and the Orphans of Lerna and your PDF allies will depart into the dark reaches of space.

>>5949430
What area of Ultima Segmentum will you send your fleet?

>Set a course for Ultramar. Guilliman’s realm is by far the richest in all the Imperium, and it will be easy for you to infiltrate the Ultramarines, gathering resources and growing your forces in secret, or even stabbing them in the back when the time is ripe…
>Set a course for Olympia. Homeworld of the Iron Warriors, it is sure to be a musterground for forces loyal to Horus, abuzz with enough activity that you can pass unnoticed, gathering intelligence on the Traitors movements. Indeed, it may even be prudent to keep your Imperial Fists disguise and poke the hornets nest to see what comes out.
>Set a course for the Ghoul Stars. Perhaps the most mysterious region in all the Imperium, there are many stories about that place, not all of them false. It is at the very edge of Imperial Space, where the light of the Astronomican shines dim. It will be a perfect place to lay low and grow your forces without fear of discovery, and there are enough Forge Worlds and colonies around Thramas that you won’t be without resources.
>Set a course for Prospero. The Wolves will surely appreciate the help of their “loyalist” cousins, and it may be advantageous to help them put down the Thousand Sons, recovering their esoteric knowledge, or even finding an opportunity to place the sorcerer Magnus in your debt.
>Set a course for the Kyvas Belt. Within that unassuming system is a secret Alpha Legion outpost, a surveillance centre of sorts, where you will be sure to gain access to The Network and all the intelligence at the Alpha Legion’s disposal. It is also located near the route Horus must take to reach Terra, a good place as any to set up a base of operations.
>Write in? Is there a particular place in the Ultima Segmentum that you think the chapter should venture to?


Meanwhile, in the bowels of the Asclepius your Apothecaries get to work, waking some of the Psykers and subjecting them to preliminary tests to determine how exactly their strange and sorcerous powers function…

Roll 1d40, DC 20. Worst of 3. The result will be the number of specimens that expire during the trials.

I will also leave this vote up for the next 24 hours, since it's a pretty important one that will determine the general direction of this quest. Thought for the day: Every man is a spark in the darkness. By the time he is noticed he is gone forever. A retinal after-image that fades and is obscured by newer, brighter lights.

Rolled 9 (1d40)

>>5949431

>Set a course for the Kyvas Belt. Within that unassuming system is a secret Alpha Legion outpost, a surveillance centre of sorts, where you will be sure to gain access to The Network and all the intelligence at the Alpha Legion’s disposal. It is also located near the route Horus must take to reach Terra, a good place as any to set up a base of operations.

Intel is power!

>>5949431
>Set a course for the Kyvas Belt. Within that unassuming system is a secret Alpha Legion outpost, a surveillance centre of sorts, where you will be sure to gain access to The Network and all the intelligence at the Alpha Legion’s disposal. It is also located near the route Horus must take to reach Terra, a good place as any to set up a base of operations.

The rest are literally out of the frying pan into the fire lol

Rolled 13 (1d40)

>>5949330
>>5949340
>>5949374
>>5949382
My general rule of thumb for gene-seed is: No harvesting from live Astartes (mostly because I'm not assed to keep track of that for 5 years in-narrative), but you can harvest two from every fallen brother, if you have access to their corpses that is. Gene-seed can also be harvested from fallen enemies if you have the time and also stolen, since most of the legions will be running around with some to spare, just like you. Space Marine forts will have more, but they'll be tougher to crack. And if you ever meet Alpharius Omegon he can give you as much as you'll ever need but you have to find the sneaky bastards first.

Rolled 18 (1d40)

>>5949431 #
>Set a course for Prospero. The Wolves will surely appreciate the help of their “loyalist” cousins, and it may be advantageous to help them put down the Thousand Sons, recovering their esoteric knowledge, or even finding an opportunity to place the sorcerer Magnus in your debt.
Getting that debt from Magnus in order to acquire our first Librarian for our fleet is a very nice thing to get, besides we are only going to be in Prospero for a couple of weeks max before everything either calms down and ends without a fight, or we slink back and wait for the fighting to approach before we help Russ or Magnus in their time of need in order to have either primarch voach for us in order to guarantee our safety from either loyalist or traitors, depending on the faction in play.

>>5949462
After that, we can always slink back to Thramas or Kyvas afterwords as we plan out our new base of operations after we had our plan of making either allies or enemies and absconding with a host of knowledge and power that can benefit ourselves in the future for when we get our hands on our first librarian to acquire and then train.

>>5949431
>Set a course for Prospero. The Wolves will surely appreciate the help of their “loyalist” cousins, and it may be advantageous to help them put down the Thousand Sons, recovering their esoteric knowledge, or even finding an opportunity to place the sorcerer Magnus in your debt.

Lets go troll the space furries and get a big I owe u from Magnus

>>5949431
>Set a course for Prospero. The Wolves will surely appreciate the help of their “loyalist” cousins, and it may be advantageous to help them put down the Thousand Sons, recovering their esoteric knowledge, or even finding an opportunity to place the sorcerer Magnus in your debt.

>>5949398
The same Thousand Sons that currently suffering from the flesh change that Magnus, the second greatest psyker mankind has ever known, utterly failed to prevent? I'm open to alternative arguments but I don't see how throwing ourselves into battle against the Space Wolves is a good idea. As it is, the Imperium is guaranteed to win a pyrrhic victory. We need to be in a position to take advantage of the aftermath.

>>5949431
>Set a course for the Kyvas Belt. Within that unassuming system is a secret Alpha Legion outpost, a surveillance centre of sorts, where you will be sure to gain access to The Network and all the intelligence at the Alpha Legion’s disposal. It is also located near the route Horus must take to reach Terra, a good place as any to set up a base of operations.
Prospero is gambling our future on the generosity of a rabid dog and arrogant sorcerer. We're the Alpha Legion. Information is critical.

>>5949431
>Set a course for the Kyvas Belt. Within that unassuming system is a secret Alpha Legion outpost, a surveillance centre of sorts, where you will be sure to gain access to The Network and all the intelligence at the Alpha Legion’s disposal. It is also located near the route Horus must take to reach Terra, a good place as any to set up a base of operations.

>>5949431
>>Set a course for the Ghoul Stars. Perhaps the most mysterious region in all the Imperium, there are many stories about that place, not all of them false. It is at the very edge of Imperial Space, where the light of the Astronomican shines dim. It will be a perfect place to lay low and grow your forces without fear of discovery, and there are enough Forge Worlds and colonies around Thramas that you won’t be without resources.
Would it be possible to go from the Kyvas Belt to the Ghoul Stars? I would enjoy establishing a true and proper lair there

>>5949431
>Set a course for Prospero. The Wolves will surely appreciate the help of their “loyalist” cousins, and it may be advantageous to help them put down the Thousand Sons, recovering their esoteric knowledge, or even finding an opportunity to place the sorcerer Magnus in your debt.

>>5949528
I would lovenfor that to be the case, since both options more or less allow us to set up a base, but one of them acts as an easy relay station to patch into the Network, so I would hope we could eventually try and do something like that later on when we have the time to think about it.

>>5949521
Eh, I mean it’s less about the fact that he’s a rabid dog as much as a cunning warrior that loves to allow people to lower their guard and attack them when he seems it either best, or where it could hurt the most desu.

>>5949547
Which, doesn’t mean he can’t do stupid stuff, but he’s a lot more than just an animal you know.
>Set a course for Prospero. The Wolves will surely appreciate the help of their “loyalist” cousins, and it may be advantageous to help them put down the Thousand Sons, recovering their esoteric knowledge, or even finding an opportunity to place the sorcerer Magnus in your debt.

>Set a course for Prospero. The Wolves will surely appreciate the help of their “loyalist” cousins, and it may be advantageous to help them put down the Thousand Sons, recovering their esoteric knowledge, or even finding an opportunity to place the sorcerer Magnus in your debt.
Thousand Son fan here, and I think that is enough to explain my reason for voting as it were.

Russ will of course suspect we are up to something but I dont believe he will think we would be doing something traitorous.

>>5949579
Agreed, as of right now, Russ would have absolutely no idea how or why we would be in the Prospero system. The Alpha legion to him are a bunch of assasins and spies, the type of warrior that he hates, as well as makes him suspious of as a general sense of "Their obviously keeping something from me their not telling." But honestly other than that feeling that anyone thats know their dealing with an Alpha legion feels, nah he wouldnt automatically attack us or think we were trying anything worth killing over.

Honestly, I would just have us try and defuse the situation by us dressing up either as one of the loyalists or just one of his own sons that came in last minute to him but did it in incorrect manner. Because if we try and tell him dressed up as a loyalist about the Isstvan Massacre and how it was all under horus, then anyone like the Luna wolves, Night Lords, Deathguard or World Eaters will be either immeditalty disbelieved or will have us getting shot at once the information comes to them and they understand what would our arrival mean for them, as it would be a recruitment job. If we show up as a TS then we are going to be shot at no matter what we say and our words will not be believed. If we show up as ourselves, then Russ will automatically hate us, but not open fire as he knows the Alpha legion wouldnt make this shit up out of nowhere so he would have some doubts, but unless we roll great with our persuasion rolls, not likely going to change his mind honestly until he can confirm it himself, which would go down badly as I believe the Changeling was involved in the mess that resulted in that genocide from kicking off in the first place.

If we instead showed up as one of the various loyalists, he would be completely dumbfounded, but be more then willing to recheck with some of the local sector commands to make sure what we were saying was true and not hogwash from a space marine that would be spreading lies about his beloved brother Horus. And if we show up as a Space Wolf detachment, that came to tell him about the Betrayal and how we came to tell him the Emperor wanted him and Magnus back to Terra as soon as possible, would completely throw off his game from his own sons telling him this fact, before asking him if the order to come here to Prospero had been by The Emperor, or was in someway involved with Horus. As he was explicitly the one that came to Russ and convinced him to go kill Magnus in the First place, rather then capture Magnus and his legion as he was originally ordered to do.

And the Thousand Sons in almost every case involved, would be a mix of Dumbfounded stupidity and Horror no matter the scenario, which would grant us a chance no matter the circumstances to get some of them on board as they would be aware of the probable purpose of the Wolfs and would want a way to get on board any ship that come take them should the worst come to pass and Russ continues on with his assault.

Before we then steal more than a couple of Pyscher's and Marines, along with what else we can grab should the worst come to fruition and GTFO while we still would have a chance.

>>5949431
Hmm... On second thought, going to Prospero would lead to a lot of tension and leave our lives in the hands of rolling well against one, possibly two primarchs. That sounds more interesting than tapping into The Network, when that's something we can already do in the future, even if it loses us early opportunities now.

I'll change my vote from >>5949521 to
>Set a course for Prospero. The Wolves will surely appreciate the help of their “loyalist” cousins, and it may be advantageous to help them put down the Thousand Sons, recovering their esoteric knowledge, or even finding an opportunity to place the sorcerer Magnus in your debt.

>>5949547
>Rus apologia
>in the year of our Emperor -38k
The "Emperor's Executioner" lost more duels than he won and sent his own legion to be massacred in a blind attack against Horus's overwhelmingly superior force when it would've been instrumental in the Siege of Terra. Of all of the loyalists, he was by far the most reckless and wasteful.

>>5949528
Sure. You'll be able to go anywhere within reason, this'll just determine your starting location when shit starts hitting the fan.

>>5949600
The HH book series is pretty retarded and I hate characters being retarded so some things will be changing slightly. E.g Russ suicide charging the Traitors after getting to Terra won't be because he can't go 5 seconds without chimping out; he won't get to Terra at all (because getting to Terra with a full legion and leaving is really fucking stupid), he'll instead be racing there and run into the Traitors or trying to hit their supply lines only to get whacked by the vanguard who knew he was there through chaos bullshit. Something like that. I just absolutely detest characters acting like highschool girls in rival cliques and that will not be happening here.

>>5949600
Oh come on, the fight with Lion and Angron absolutely don’t count, especially as Russ could easily have killed either combatant if he was really interested in doing so, but he didn’t as he wasn’t a murderer out of habit.

As for that assault, if Russ had just gotten the balls to cut off Horus’s head after his special power with his spear went off, then it wouldn’t have mattered anyway as he would have destroyed Horus and his legion with a masterstroke of Horus’s own tactics against him. Besides, it’s not as if they could have helped anymore then they would already have done in the first place amongst the other 3 legions all guarding Sol against the incoming assault that Russ could have destroyed anyway if he had just killed Horus like he set out to do in the first place.

>>5949615
Huh, alright fair enough. Its not like the 70 plus book series that was originally planned for something like 12 to 24 books long weren't unknown for abandoned or retarded plotlines or actions that made more sense because the Plot demanded it, rather than any logical or consistent sense.
>>5949617
Bro chill the Fuck out, nobody with half a brain is going to die on the Hill that that sequence of events from Wolfspear was great as anything, but for Emperor's sake dont be the Furry Simp its really not something you want on for self pal.

>>5949594
we should be able to yoink at least one company of the nerds to our cause

>>5949615
Thats good to read QM I look forward to see what you will cook up for us!