Somewhere, at some date, great temples will be built to honor Gods long deceased. Wars will be waged over matters whose significance was lost. Great men will be born and leave legacies forgotten.The Copper Age has begun and along with it the chaos of the Neolithic begins to fade, making way for true civilization.Although they don't know it themselves, the people in the woodlands of North-America are currently experiencing a revolution, some peaceful, others violently, at the end of which they will either give in to anarchy or birth some of history's first real states.
Ualawa has brought peace to Rerete for the forseeable future, thanks to his great diplomatic skill. At home however, this skill is of little use, for he remains a foreigner to the people he rules; and no more is it apparent in the way he speaks compared to them.The expressions used by Rerete are sometimes alien and sometimes familiar to this man of Apoti'inste, and the alien ones have only increased in recent times.to be strong and resilient they call being "copper skinned"being exceptionally lucky they call "stepping on alligators"committing themselves to utter annihilation they call an "army of chaos"and wiping out a clan is to fight a "blood war"annoyances and inconvenience are "raining spears" upon themwhen one's efforts are fruitless, or an overachievement, they are "standing against a thousand"allies of convenience they call "friends in looting"and an unlikely friend is "bathing in the river"CUT
CONTThese are not the end of his troubles understanding Rerete however. He had thought upon learning these phrases that he had heard it all, but every now and again he continues to pick up bizarre things spoken by his people that confuse him.when elders warn of unlikely threats, then "not all snakes rattle"when great tasks need accomplishment, then "it takes an army to kill a mammoth"for those tempting fate "a mad camel is fiercer than a lion"for those lamenting "whistles and withers bring beans and squash"impatience is met with "don't skin a limping dog"helplessness is met with "a broken spear is still a staff"the reckless are told "even badgers fear a skunk"and the cowardly learn "to make a flute you need a bone"
Technology:>roads>treaties & alliances>record keepingPolitics:>chiefly bodyguards>chiefly raiders>chiefly enforcers>succession by birth>succession by councillink to previous thread that I forgot in op:https://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/2023/5669130/
>>5713022>treaties & alliancesAnd here I thought our red headed giants were gone from this earth.
>>5713024nah I'm just slow to prevent early burnout
>>5713026Truly you possess the wisdom of mother Rekokiki
>>5713022>treaties & alliances
>>5713022>treaties & alliancesKeep the diplomatic advancements rolling! Welcome back, QM.
>>5713022>>chiefly enforcersThe more despot the merrier
>>5713506>>5713166>>5713074>>5713072Though he is getting used to the country, Ualawa still seeks to make Rerete more like Apoti'inste. One way he intends to do this, is with something he calls Katagegko (roads) - a great many paths leading from one place to another. Not a ground-breaking or new concept by any means, there are plenty of paths already, some better traveled than others, but they exist.As such, Ualawa's insistence on changing our existing Gegko into Katagegko seems nonsensical to us, how would one even go about fortifying a path?The answer to this question comes in the form of a demonstration. Ualawa himself constructs the very beginning of a new Gegko, marks their edges with stakes, digs out a little bit of dirt within the stake boundaries, and beats the ground until it is even.It seems rather silly, but it is simple enough, and we get to work on marking and flattening all existing Gegko in the country, turning them into Katagegko.Ualawa proudly tells us that this is what his people use to guide their camels across great distances, reducing their travel times with it.Technology:>treaties & alliances>record keepingPolitics:>chiefly bodyguards>chiefly raiders>chiefly enforcers>succession by birth>succession by council
>>5714785>treaties & alliances
>>5714785>succession by council
>>5714785>succession by councilWe dont seem to be a dictatorship so far. we gotta get them Roman vibes going on here.
>>5714931>>5714852>>5714819>>5714787Consistently lagging behind the diplomatic game, Rerete have always made up for this deficiency with gifts and bribery. Now that Ualawa is in charge, be brings with him knowledge of better, more sophisticated politicking.Having already demonstrated his skill by officially making peace with Klaokgugette, he now seeks to go beyond established tradition by making agreements permanent and unfalsifiable.Where once people could simply break alliances and betray one another by conveniently forgetting about those alliances, Ualawa wants to put in place a system in which such betrayal is no longer possible.For this purpose, he will bring memory-men, recruited from unaffiliated clans, to all future negotiations, whose whole purpose is to remember the treaty in detail. Two for each contract, so that should one's memory fail, the other will make up for it.To prevent them from falsifying agreements for their own gain, they will be kept away from each other, one in each treaty-country.Whether the heartlanders will pick up on this practice or remain in their effeminate ways of secrecy and lies is yet to be seenTechnology:>record keepingPolitics:>chiefly bodyguards>chiefly raiders>chiefly enforcers>succession by birth>succession by council
>>5715126>succession by councilWe getting an event soon, or hitting a limit to how many steps we can select off the tech tree, or are we just going through the list until we're done?
>>5715183there's always a limitthe minimum options there can be is 3and mutually exclusive ones automatically disappear when one of them is chosen
>>5715316>>5715278>>5715214>>5715182Despite an extended peace time, battles are still being fought in and around Rerete.No major power is involved, and no great armies clash on the battlefield.What does happen however, are numerous raids by our new neighbors, all exceedingly small in their scale, but enormous in numbers, making it difficult to keep track of all of them.Often times, raiding parties successfully reach into the heart of Rerete and loot villages near the capital.The people of Eyeli Heslo are understandably concerned about all of this and so, have taken it upon themselves to assist our warriors where ever they can, and by what ever means they have.Over the years, this has lead to the people involved in logistics, who ship around supply for our warriors across the lake and around the country, to come up with various systems of following the items they sent out.Some do it by carving markings into wood or clay and adding it to the shipped items, while keeping a separate account of the item at home.Others do it by adding painted symbols to the items directly, with colors native to their home, ensuring authenticity of the wares.Thus, we know whether a shipped item has reached its destination or not, and can identify both embezzlers and raiders more easily, tracking them down and disposing of them, greatly increasing the army's response time.None of this involves the Chief or his lackeys in any way, and it might take decades for Rerete as a country to truly understand and tame these developments.In the mean time, Ualawa is using his personal wealth to fund an exploration mission in the colonies, to uncover what lies on the other side of the new lakes.The main team is headed for...>Puiorere (Lake Superior)>Kirasrere (Lake Huron)
>>5716419>>Puiorere (Lake Superior)I don't know what is the point of picking one over the other, unless this are known places in the quest and I am the newfag. But without real information of the true this is a false choice
>Puiorere (Lake Superior)We may get lucky and find something good.
>>5716419>Puiorere (Lake Superior)
>>5716419>Kirasrere (Lake Huron)
>>5716419>>Puiorere (Lake Superior)
>>5716419>Kirasrere (Lake Huron
>>5716419>Puiorere (Lake Superior)Go north young camel rider
>>5716505Changing my decision for better trade.>>5716756>Kirasrere (Lake Huron)
>>5716419>Kirasrere (Lake Huron)Considering how many ships are/have been lost on the lakes, and just how horrifying Superior is, Huron is a much better bet.
>>5716748>>5716678>>5716671>>5716653>>5716557>>5716449Most of our explorers are headed for the other side of Puiorere, while a few also set out for Kirasrere.Within a month, the Kirasrere mission returns, or what is left of it.The survivors made it back with the help of an adventurous young fisherman, but they themselves are unable to be spoken to.So devastated are they, that their bodies will not wake up, yet their hearts remain beating.It is unclear whether they'll survive.In the weeks and months they are being tended to, the Puiorere mission has still not returned.How shall this be dealt with?>send a rescue expedition>have the chief search them personally>just wait it out
>>5717100>just wait it out
>>5717100>send a rescue expedition
>>5717100>send a rescue expeditionIf it's dwarves I will become even more racist
>>5717100>send a rescue expeditionRight we are SOOOOOOOOOOO not ready for colonization. The Lakes claim yet more lives.
>>5717135It cant be the dwarves, they are a hot climate specialized sub-species.
>>5717138You'd think that the dwarves would have the good sense to limit their numbers to lessen their negative impact on the world, but sadly there is more than one breed, as evidenced by the artistic depiction in thread one.
>>5717138People can move lots of places, with proper attire. It'a our strength as a species, and QM confirmed that all the races are Homo sapiens.>>5717100>just wait it out
>>5717100>Just wait it outI would rather make it harder for whatever that killed them to trace their way back to us
>>5717279>>5717178>>5717150>>5717137>>5717135>>5717110Ualawa sends a small army of 100 men to rescue the explorers or bring their remains home safely, giving them four months to complete their mission.After three months time the expedition returns with the exploration team in tow.Our explorers tell us at length about their encounter with the people on the other shore.They say that the lands beyond the lakes are a relic of times passed. While the shores themselves are green, only a few days away from them, begins the vast and wild gray where trees are sparse, snow towers man-high year-round, and beasts beyond compare roam freely. Further yet beyond, some saw and almost died in, the remnants of the great ice, endlessly stretching across the horizon, never-ending and eternal, where miraculously, some dwarves yet live.The explorers themselves had never gotten to see these dwarves of the great ice, but the various dwarven tribes they had met beyond the lakes, told them of these ice dwellers, having spoken of them with great reverence and veneration.Furthermore, the dwarves of the lakes and beyond appear to be unrelated to the dwarves beyond the Utekko. This race of dwarf, they say, despite appearing identical to those of Apotirete, are of a milder nature, and appear to worship spirits similar to our own, wearing strange garments that do not soak underwater, as if they were a second skin.Such tales are quite encouraging for further exploration endeavors, but there are still the the reports of the comatose explorers to be waited for.Until then however, Rerete....>remains a mostly peaceful country>is attacked by a corn clan>faces revolting subject clans
>>5718354>is attacked by a corn clanSTRIFE BUILDS CHARACTER STRIFE BUILDS CHARACTER STRIFE BUILDS CHARACTERNice to see a new type of dwarf, culture wise. It's neat how we've found some similarities due to our kinda similar geographic position. I wonder if the Ice Dwellers are real or just legend?
>>5718354>faces revolting subject clans
>>5718354>is attacked by a corn clan
>>5718354>faces revolting subject clansThey don't like the new guy apparently.
>>5718354>is attacked by a corn clanCORN
>>5718358We're comparative giants, right Maybe dwarves are just IRL Homo sapiens?>>5718354>is attacked by a corn clan
>>5718354>KORN KLAN KILL
>>5719269>>5718992>>5718970>>5718943>>5718471>>5718358Word has reached us that a new clan by the name of lkofeminste (Blackmaizers) has appeared along the Sessre and is rapidly expanding in all directions.Ualawa appears to be familiar with these people, and tells us that Ikofeminste are one of Apoti'inste's former subjects of the far south.Though they were never a formidable people by any stretch, their way of warfare is wholly unknown to all but Apoti'inste and the great kingdom beyond the plains.True enough, word of their bizarre methods and exotic weaponry lines up with Ualawa's accounts.Beyond merely fielding bow and arrow like Rerete, they wield blades far larger than the sticks they are attached to, and posses miniscule shields no larger than a good fish.Most worryingly though, are the sheer numbers they bringAccounts of recently arrived refugees tell us of multiple armies, each with thousands of warriors.If they are to be believed, then most of this enormous force is currently engaged with Klaokgugette, which doesn't make the news of an invasion of our country any less terrifying.Ualawa issues the call to drafthow will he prepare?>wait for all the troops to gather>find an experienced leader>ask the council for help
>>5719943>find an experienced leaderI'm calling for 'total negrocorner death'.
>>5719943>find an experienced leader
>>5719943>>find an experienced leaderwe do preemptive strike
>find an experienced leader.If there is a chance we should massacre them then Loot and pillage take their women and riches then leave in good order.
>>5720364>>5720185>>5719987>>5719966>>5719962>>5719958>>5719945Not particularly skilled at war, Ualawa decides rather than hone himself as a leader, to find one instead with the necessary qualifications.His search is a short one, for one such leader of men is still present within the elder council. This man from the previous generation had witnessed nearly all of Kapotim's battles as a lesser leader.Though his clan has now long been absorbed into Rerete, he still takes pride in his status as a former king.Udegtpoyim Degtpoite may be an old man, but true to his clan's origin, the call to adventure compels him to fight Ikofeminste, and as such agrees to lead the troops for Ualawa.700 men are already present at Eyeli Heslo600 of which are equipped with copper spears, the other with bows and stone arrows.1000 more are expected to arrive within the next three weeks, 750 report to be bearing stone spears, and 250 bows with stone arrows, all 1700 are shielded.Of our troops, 500 are known to have experience with formation warfare, and 200 are known to have trained under these veterans.With all of that, Udegtpoyim, in the name of Ualawa, decides to...>wait the 3 weeks>wait 2 weeks>wait 1 week>take to the field immediately
>>5723127>wait the 3 weeks
>>5723127>>take to the field immediatelythey can send messages for the reinforcements, but we have to hit at the enemy NOW while they are busy
>wait the 3 weeks
>>5725460>>5723235>>5723233>>5723155Having decided to wait out the arrival of all forces, Udegtpoyim uses the spare time to teach all new arrivals about formation warfare - a decision Ualawa has concerns about, fearing an eventual uprising of our subjects using this acquired knowledge.700 more men could be trained up in this manner before the last of the troops arrived, and not a day too early.Unlike previous enemies Ikofeminste has forgone torching our countryside and slaughtering our people; instead they chose to head directly for Eyeli Heslo, where their army makes for an imposing presence.Though we couldn't get a good look at them, just from the space they take up outside the city, it is safe to say there must be at least 4000 of them.Ikofeminste's army's leader has sent out a warrior to deliver a message to us demanding our submission.Udegtpoyim calls Ualawa out to the field for him to hear this message personally.Knowing the overwhelming manpower the enemy seems to posses, and being personally familiar with their outlandish ways, for him, simply surrendering is not out of the question.Ualawa ponders his options...>submit to Ikofeminste>attempt diplomacy>fight them here and now
>>5726451>attempt diplomacyIf we can jew em, we can win!
>>5726451>fight them here and nowDiplomacy requires a strong position. They definitely don't believe we have one.
>>5726451>fight them here and nowYou do not negotiate with barbarians at the gates, you either surrender and hope they don't kill you or you fight them and either have VICTORY OR DEATH!!! And you lose 100% of battles you do not fight.
>>5726451>>attempt diplomacyThey are making demands. That's a start
>>5726451>fight them here and now
>>5726451>fight them here and nowWe are so fucked!
>>5727079not to question your decision anonbut if you think you're fucked, why would you vote for a battle like that?
>>5726451>fight them here and nowWe are protected by the spirits! Fate bends to us!
>submit to Ikofeminste We can try to end this peacefully and then work hard to subvert them from within? what is everyone's else opinion on that?
>>5727788Subvert them how?
>>5727246>>5727079>>5726668>>5726486>>5726454Ualawa walks marches past the soldier to personally deliver his decision to the enemy commander.Though he did not summon an army of chaos in his declaration, he made it abundantly clear to Ikofeminste, that should they want our submission, they will have to pay for it in blood.Out of respect for his brazenness, the man who goes by the name of Ogtakim lets Ualawa return safely to our army, before engaging us in combat.Back with his army, Ualawa quickly briefs Udegtpoyim about the unusual weapons of Ikofeminste that he knows all too well.In Apoti'inste, Ikofeminste's "Pforitko" were best countered with long spears and quick movement. Their miniscule peitakki, which they refer to as "Suyoirki" do not cover them from arrow fire, but serve to force an enemy into pforit range.With this knowledge imparted upon him, Udegtpoyim prepares his formation...(CHOICES IN SPOILER)
>>5729417Choice 2, have the bowmen function as Skirmishers and wear the enemy down. When they get tired encircle and finish them.
>>5729417>3As I see it, the arrows will force the enemy to close into melee, where they will drive our archers back while our wings stand strong and we'll have ourselves a Cannae. And if they stay and fight the spearmen the archers will shoot them up.
>>5729417>3Kite with the archers, use the two groups of spearmen to flank and fuck aroundFour is the worst option IMO, we can't stand a prolonged fight.
>>5729440>>5729510>>5729546We're outnumbered around three to one, normal tactics won't work for this
>>5729417>3I might prefer 2 but this is probably better than 4. We can't take superior numbers head-on and the archers can always fall back so the spearmen can pinch in if they get focused.
>>5729581>>5729750>>5729760>>5730919Udegtpoyim quickly sorts our army into three portionstwo of spearmen, holding the flanksand in the center, our archersthe enemy approaches us as a simple line, with some disorganized elements jutting out in all directionsbefore our armies clash, a good portion of their center has been whittled down by our archersbut as the lines solidify, they begin to suffer return fire from somewhere within ikofeminste's line.the front rank of our archers have taken up their shields and begun to engage the enemy in melee combatour flanks are holding, but small bands have begun spilling over to the sides, where they could lead the enemy to encircle us.Udegtpoyim orders us to....>pull back the center>expand the flanks>push a flank>retreat to the city
>>5731830>expand the flanks
>>5731830>pull back the centerIf we pull the center in we can make a little 'bucket' to flank the troops they send after it twice over. Something Something killzone morale damage!
>>5731851I'm worried they could outflank our flankers.
>>5731830>pull back the centerIm hoping this causes us to encircle them.
>>5731853It's arguable that thinning the line this early makes it even more likely for them to break through and get around us
>>5731830>pull back the center
>>5732084>>5731919>>5731855>>5731851As the archers pull back, the enemy pours into the gap, relieving the pressure on our flanksby now, every archer has converted to a spearman and their line has stretched out to meet the flanksas the enemy continues to push our center, the flanks naturally fold in around themwithin minutes, Udegtpoyim has completely encircled ikofeminste's armyas they become aware of their predicament, the enemies enter into a frenzy and try to break outwhile our lines are rapidly thinning out from this attack, forcing us to partially break the encirclement.After counting heads at the end of the daywe have come out on top, with 697 of our 1700 deadof the presumed 4000 enemieswe counted 3138 dead143 were taken prisoner, according to whom more than 1200 made their escapeAmong the captured is Ogtakim, the enemy commanderUalawa plans to release him with a message of...>perpetual warfare>insults and demands>return to status quo>honorable peace>reconciliation
>>5732683>honorable peaceWe've lost almost half of our warriors and this wasn't even their only army.
>>5732683>honorable peaceYeah; seems like the best we can hope for here. Dodged a bullet!
>>5732918Yeah we should definitely quit while we're ahead
>>5732683>honorable peacewhat would be the difference of this for a status quo ?
>>5733276technically a spoiler, but for clarification purposes:peace takes the L in stridestatus quo pretends it never happened
>>5732683>honorable peaceThey'll write songs about that one
>>5733404>>5733276>>5733037>>5732918>>5732724A month has passed since the release of Ogtakim; Ikofeminste has sent us a messenger agreeing to an amiable peace, under the condition that our captives be returned to them upon the arrival of this message.A deal as good as any.The 142 remaining captives are released and return home along with Ikofeminste's messenger.As peace and quiet return to Rerete, its warriors return home to their families, and over 2000 copper swords come into Ualawa's possession.The days following the return to normal, the Kirasrere expedition survivors have finally awoken. As their recovery comes along, they begin to tell us just what happened to them.Technology:>Cold Smithing>BreadDiplomacy:>Befriend Ikofeminste>Befriend KlaokgugetteCulture:>Oral traditions>Permeable tribalism
>>5734546>Cold SmithingHard toss-up between bread and this, but I feel like Bread is a lot easier to figure out B-but what happened to our Kirasrere frens
>>5734554you'll find out next time on dragon ball Z
>>5734546>Cold SmithingOur blades and minds, ever sharper.
>>5738328>>5735114>>5734560Ualawa dispatches a messenger to Ikofeminste to open up further discussion about our relationship with one another, while preparing his own departure to hold said discussions in the first place.Meanwhile, the expedition survivors describe their findings in vivid detail.Their journey across Kirasrere itself was uneventful, but as soon as they had landed they found themselves in a strange world, still green as ours, but notably colder.There, they found a strange folk of dwarves, who live in trees and drink their blood, preying upon any animal that walks below them.On most days they saw them, they ate dogs, cats, lions, foxes and the odd bearbut on occasion also toroko (mammoths) and a bizarre horned beast that resembled horse in shape, but toro in stature.Eventually the expedition tried to approach them, but fell victim to the very practice they had previously observed.The dwarves descended from the trees, killed, and ate the expedition, they made however no effort to chase down the escapees, likely assuming they would simply perish from their wounds.This is supported by the fact that the fisherman who rescued them saw many dark shadows lurking on the shore, surrounding the survivors.These...man-eaters must be avoided at all costsTechnology:>Cold Smithing>BreadDiplomacy:>Befriend KlaokgugetteCulture:>Oral traditions>Permeable tribalism
>>5739145What is "permeable tribalism"? I searched the term and could only find a reference to the ancient Jewish/Hebrew habits of some tribal members living under the authority of their own and some living in outside lands under foreign authority, but all of them holding a "Jewish/Hebrew" identity. Does it just mean our people will also view themselves as OUR people, no matter where they live? "A Jew first, an American or German or Ethiopian second" kind of thing?
>>5739147 you know that thing japan does where you have to live in japan for 10 generations to be "japanese" ?that's regular tribalism, the thing currently practiced in Rerete, and across the world"permeable" means that something can enter another thingI wouldn't fault you if this made you think I'm using a retarded term for "citizenship", but what I'm proposing here is nowhere as open as thatthough the concept is the same you could call it caveman's first immigration policy
>>5739145>Permeable tribalismWe need to prop up our numbers.
>>5739145>Permeable tribalismWe're honestly already on this path, and it sounds neat.
>>5739279>>5739231>>5739184>>5739182>>5739174Though we consider ourselves a single clan, many of our people are not true Rerete. Similar to Kloakgugette, we consist of many smaller clans and even a former rival, who have banded together to unite under Rerete.As such, pureblooded Rerete would consider these people somewhat lesser, despite our outward claims of brotherhood.These lesser Rerete have become so indistinguishable from true Rerete over the last generation, that even a true foreigner such as Ualawa would seem as though he was a native.As such, the aversion toward foreigners has lessened within the population, not least because the pure Rerete can no longer find fault in foreigners who have fully adopted their way of life.Indeed, it is such thorough assimilation that they would consider them fellow clansmen, no longer foreigners, no longer lesser.Ualawa is the first to be bestowed this honor publicly by the people of Eyeli Heslo, by having the elderly declare him born anew as Rerete.A gesture that endears him to our people.Having set the precedent, the practice of the elderly declaring one a true clansman of Rerete is spreading throughout our people.Whether one was born here or not is still the largest point of consideration when deciding what makes someone Rerete, a fact that is bolstered if a parent had been Rerete, and lessened if one does not adhere to every last custom of our people.They, who have lived the longest among our kin, would naturally know best who is and who isn't truly one of us.In other news, our messenger has returned from Ikofeminste and reports that they are willing to talk. Ualawa departs immediately.Technology:>Cold Smithing>BreadDiplomacy:>Befriend KlaokgugetteCulture:>Oral traditions
>>5745341>>5745219>>5744968>>5744602Ever since we had learned that jewelry was made out of Puio Utek - or Yotek as the colonials have come to call it - our people have been unable to process it. Even as we had conquered those who had the knowledge, they simply refused to give up their secrets.In the generations since, we have found our own source of Yotek and and been trying to find ways to work it.The most obtuse yet obvious method turned out to be just hitting it with a rock.Having nothing else to try, this is what the colonials have done for some years now, and this knowledge has since spread throughout the country, where it finally arrived at Eyeli Heslo.It may not be enough to forge Yotek weapons of our own, but it's certainly enough to reshape and repair any of our existing Yotek items.In the meantime, Ualawa's talks with the king of Ikofeminste have come to an end, the results of which our people eagerly await to hear.Technology:>BreadDiplomacy:>Befriend KlaokgugetteCulture:>Oral traditions
>>5748274Bread is easy enough to learn and is efficient enough that it would persist in any civ around usOral traditions might get locked out if we wait too long>Oral traditions
>>5748274>Oral traditionsat last