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Your name is Akule Naonae and you are a solider. You are seventeen years old and your rank is unimportant in the chain of command. You serve in the Centralia's Peacekeeping Infantry Force- currently deployed in the occupation zone of Northland.

It seems ridiculous that with today's modern day technology, concepts like “war” and “soliders” still even exist. You feel outdated here- at the very least. The world wide computer network has existed for a few decades now, flying drones can explosive payloads, and most nations are so developed and politically entrenched starting even one conflict would quickly involve everyone. Most major nations of the world have nuclear weapons- so none of them are ever going to fight each other. Wars only exist now in little shithole countries- much like Northland.

On a routine patrol, you and your squad have almost finished your route. It's going to get dark soon; and you will return to the base momentarily. You don't much like walking around on foot; but you understand why. You're just here as a display of force. The way your great grandfather fought in war is as alien to you as the concept of fighting with knives in the jungle in the old iron ages. You're going to go back to your barracks which has internet and hot showers for gods' sake.

Wait a second. You're feeling a little exposed here. You got a bad feeling all the sudden.
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”B-Bomb!”

It's too late. Your squadmate, Ranja, is blown apart by the blast. The others and yourself avoid the blast- just in time for the ambush from the nearby concealed freedom fighters.

“Occupiers! Get them!”

The hail of bullets quickly shred and wipe out more members for your squad- your cheap and mass produced kevlar vests and ballistic helmets do little to protect you. Only a few shots of return fire are even issued- your squad is wiped out.
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But somehow, miraculously, you survived. Flung backwards by the blast and crawling away through the hedge at the edge of the city limit- you avoided notice by the insurgents. In the confusion you lost your gun, and you were clipped by a bullet.

You need to get away from here before you're found- but at the edge of the city your only option is to either go back into the city limits alone, unarmed, with resistance fighters still active, or to drag yourself into the desert towards the blonde mountains- a sparsely inhabited wasteland belonging to the indigenous reservation. This is not good...

>Go towards the mountains
>Return to the city
>Wait for help
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>>5371032
Where in the timeline is this set?
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Waiting for help might not be good, but k feel like trying to crawl into the mountains might be worse...
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>>5371040
Safe to say, before the Hegemony. Before the nuclear Holocaust, even.

>Go towards the mountains
Let's find out why the Hegemony never absorbed or exterminated the Blonde minority
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>>5371056
Yeah, that sounds like something that'll probably happen, innit. I mean, he's going to genocide all the others.

Actually, i wonder if this means we'll get to see the other races, before akule nae nae'd them into the way of the dodo
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>>5371035
>Go towards the mountains
>>5371040
Akule Naonae was the first Supreme Ruler so probably just before he unify the planet.
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>>5371035
>>Return to the city
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>>5371035
>>Go towards the mountains
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>>5371035
>Go towards the mountains

Welcome back, Boss.
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Is it just me, or does the art here feel very early-quest? The style of the monkeys, like the rebels that attacked them, looks a bit similar to banana's earlier work.
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>>5371035
>Go towards the mountains

>tfw we play as Akule
https://youtu.be/dyIilW_eBjc
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>>5371035
>Go towards the mountains

Awesome to have you back man! This is gonna be awesome, the mystery of what created Akule.
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>>5371188
I sort of wonder if he's less brutal than his legend or the regime he inspired...
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>>5371082
Well we are going back to the past after all
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>>5371035
>>Go towards the mountains
Waiting for help will just get us killed, going to the City will be a challenge since there will probably be blockades and enemy soldiers trying to intercept/ambush there. Mountains it is.
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>>5371032
Im gonna COOOOOOOOOMMMMMM
>>5371035
>Go towards mountains
Ugh pre established canonical lore as to why akule spared the blondes and the headdress and what made him stand out among his peers??! oh fuck guys- Im gonna coom again hold on im still recovering give me a few posts
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>>5371035
>Go towards the mountains
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>>5371035
>Accept you fate. Let the darkness overtake you.

>>5371209
I’m hoping for it.
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>>5371035
>Go towards the mountains
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>>5371035
>Go towards the mountains
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>>5371035
>Go towards the mountains
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>>5371032
>Space Monke goes well Metal Gear Solid 3
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>>5371032
>Space Monkey goes full Metal Gear Solid 3
Monkino is back on the menu
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>>5371032
>Mountains
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>Two retards crash into the electrical pole outside my house
>10 Hours without power
>Over 18 hours without internet
>The day after I start the Quest again
Apologies for the delay. I will post again as soon as I am able, probably 8-12 hours from now.
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You have decided to head towards the mountains. It is highly unlikely any of the Northland insurgents go out this far- land beyond here belongs to the indigenous peoples of the blonde mountains and valleys beyond.

You find you are able to stand- but without water you are totally hopeless. Within a few hours of entering the wilderness, you come across a road and walk along it. Then, you are stopped by a truck. With the political tensions in this region high, you guess you shouldn't be too surprised you got stopped by the members of the extremist blonde militia. You state your name and rank and with that, they capture you and take you away to their nearby encampment.

The ride in their truck is anything but quiet. The two jabber on in blondespeak- the language of these people. You don't speak it; most Mainlanders do not. They made an assumption you don't know the language and as such can speak as safely as they want in front of you. Every syllable and word is spoken with ferocious intensity- you wonder how much of it is directed towards you.
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You find yourself in a small, windowless room in a complex. The room is kept dark, and you are locked behind a heavy metal door. Within an hour, a muscular shirtless man wearing a sack for a mask comes within. He unfolds a towel with several rusted, painful looking implements on it- slowly placing them out one by one to increase the intimidation factor. You were brought to a torturer?

“Y'u will answer my questi'ns.” he says, in broken Mainland.

”I am a soldier for the Centralia army. The convention of nations outlaws torture as an interrogation tool-”

“Shut up! D' what I tell y'u!”

”I've never much believed in that sort of thing anyway, I suppose. But just to warn you, I don't really know anything useful. I'm just a foot soldier.”

“Why were y'u cr'ssing int' 'ur reservation?”

”Because my unit was ambushed and I was shot. Your “d'cters” treated my wound when I came in. You of all people should know how much the Northlanders hate us.”

He seemed angry at you making fun of his accent, but he doesn't know much how to respond. You can see him sweating from the damp cloth on his head.

”...You know, there is no real purpose for you to be wearing that mask.”

“What?”

”You aren't going to let me escape the complex anyway, so why cover your face? Me seeing your face or not doesn't change anything- and moreso, you blondes all look the same to me. I wouldn't be able to identify your face in a lineup even if I did manage to escape or get released.”

“Shut up!”

”I already know the reason- it's that psychology experiment. Any primate with their face covered is more likely to commit painful or immoral acts- even if behind a wall or one-way mirror where their face being covered is irrelevant. Simple wearing a mask covers it. I studied psychology for a short while- fascinating stuff.”

You aren't exactly sure why you are so confident, but he does pull off his mask with a sweaty huff. He listened to you now at least- you have some kind of in.

>Ask to speak with someone who has less of an accent
>Request the leader of this compound to sort out this misunderstanding
>Mock the torturer
>Other (Write In)
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>>5372169
>Request the leader of this compound to sort out this misunderstanding
No use in trying to do anything. Just sort it out. Though i doubt it'll end so easily.
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>>5372169
>Request the leader of this compound to sort out this misunderstanding
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>>5372169
>Request the leader of this compound to sort out this misunderstanding

Go big or go home.
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I feel like this sidequest is gonna go full Spec Ops The Line
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>>5372169
>Request the leader of this compound to sort out this misunderstanding
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>>5372169
>Request the leader of this compound to sort out this misunderstanding
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>>5372169
>Request the leader of this compound to sort out this misunderstanding
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>>5372169
>Request the leader of this compound to sort out this misunderstanding

Also...

" Any primate with their face covered is more likely to commit painful or immoral acts"

One might say they'd even be able to commit acts others would call... UNSPEAKABLE.
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>>5372305
This guy gets it, Im so fucking pumped, kinda makes me question if akule had a bottom half to his mask beforehand his "Acsension" and maybe the removal of it while still being so aggressive is what makes him unspeakable
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>>5372169
>Internally mourn the obvious mistreatment of the tools, especially the scalpel. How is it supposed to serve its function with an edge dulled by rust? Poor scalpel.
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>>5372193
Strangely enough I feel this is gonna go the way of "Raised by Wolves" with him going back to his "spiritual" roots with the natives and coming back as a walker of both nations helping him unify the the powers that be against a common enemy, might even meet one of these "spirits" and it ends up being an alien that starts Akule on his path to the stars
Hoping this quest helps the hegemony stumble upon his mask or other akulian artifact and some extremists/Akulian cult start trying to clone him as an indigo or just using his DNA to augment people, Idek if our boy is special but with the potentially 1000 year gap since his reign on the current lifetime he has enough of a legendary status to where it would definitely cause some sort of story line
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>>5372169
>Request the leader of this compound to sort out this misunderstanding
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>>5372445
Ehh....is it? Akule didn't go back to his roots, he burned the whole fucking forest. There was a nuclear holocaust at some point, and then he took over and genocided everyone that wasn't mainlander or blonde.
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>>5372169
>>Mock the torturer
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>>5372553
The roots of the hegemony have been shown to be ruthless, im not saying he'll come back a hippie, im saying he'll come back a warlord with a path given to him by someone or something, indigenous blondes get to live as weve learned, so maybe they teach him about the black and white blade, maybe hes some sort of prophetic thing and old shaman with starsight or some shit we havent learned about yet, I just know he will develope a relationship with the natives that will change his views to something of a necessary evil that makes him "the unspeakable"
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You decide to request to speak to the leader of this compound; the infamous blonde separatist named Zaj Anak. Shown on television and internet videos on long rants about racial separatism and decrying the modern democratic systems of many nations- often accused of being both a racist and a religious fundamentalist. It's strange seeing him in person. You also find it quite strange to see how old he is; most of the videos and broadcasts about him are decades old now. He's got to be, what, fifty? Sixty? He's an old man now, all that fight must have left him.

“I was told you were intruding into the reservation-”

”After I was shot, yes.”

“...You fight for a Mainlander army, isn't that right? We recovered your uniform. Centrailian army- the same army currently pillaging the Northland for their oil.”

”Yeah. That's right.”

“So you... admit it?”

”Of course. I know why our government is really there. They pretend its to “depose the regime” and “keep the peace in a country accepting democracy” but it's really for the oil.... Can I get a cig?”

Without a delay, the old man hands you a smoke and a lighter. You were really craving one too- you've been hooked on these things for four years ever since your phone offered you a free sample on your birthday at the nearest smokeshop. You're not gonna stop now.

“Strange...” He continues. “Everyone says it is for the oil, but I have never seen them take any.”

”They don't need to.”

“Hmm? What do you mean? They have come to take the oil- the same oil that is said to stretch all the way under the blonde mountains-”

”No no, you don't understand. It has nothing to do with the oil. As long as it is dug out of the ground and sold, they could dump it in the ocean for all they care.”

“What are you talking about, fool?”

”What currency do you need to buy oil with? That's right- its contracted. No matter what nation, people, even private billionaires- all of them must use DanboMarks- Centralia's Reserve Currency. This means, no matter what, the DM has a backing in a real world physical commodity. The companies that print the money can print as much as they want for unlimited capital, the actual oil is meaningless.”

“Centralia is one of the world's richest nations and the most hungry for oil.”

”I don't like the fact they're killing our planet with that shit, but there's nothing I can do about it. And I am not rich. Nobody I know is; it's just the ultra rich that have all the money.”

“You coward!” He snaps.
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”Wha-”

“You claim the very army you fight for fights for injustice, to make the rich richer. You aren't even one of them- and yet you still fight for them! How do you love your leaders so?”

”I don't. I hate them. They're all corrupt, career politicians.”

“That's even worse!”

”It's my job.”

“I don't give a shit about your job! Every other word out of your mouth has been YOU YOU YOU, you worthless, spineless coward! How dare you sit here and eschew all responsibility for your own country, your own people, and yet you fight their battles for them! You're an agent of evil gods! That is the word our people had for you Mainlanders- Colonizer. That's what you are.”

”Oh, I'm so sorry my great ancestors came to your country and forced you to build schools and hospitals and stopped you from raping little slave boys.”

“Historical revisionism! Our people were close with the Gods and the land, you are a soulless demon. Your apologetics for your colonialism fall on deaf ears. You have no idea the suffering our people endured for you Mainlanders-”

”Here we go again with that word. “Mainlander.” Do you know what would happen if I could magically join my great great great grandfather during that colonial era? He'd slap me upside the head if I called myself a “Mainlander.” Mainlanders didn't exist a few hundred years ago. Do you understand that? I am a mutt.”

“You are blue. Like them.”

”Blue, what? Northlander? Eastlander? West? Islander? Nomadic Intermittent Post-Population? You said that I fight for my people, no I don't. Those aren't my people. Do you know why I joined the army? Because my mother's medical debts would pass to me underneath the debt-inheritance laws, and military service is one of the only ways to get it waived. Plus, it's the only way I can afford healthcare later in life when I need it- and even that will probably be taken away by government debt or unending inflation.”

“So it's for money then.”

”Pfft. Money. What money? What money is there for me? There are no careers I could pursue that could give me the life I want- even my grandparents standards of living are but a dream. My countries technocratic elite automated that away. I will never afford a house nor a family- at least not without passing on crippling debt to my children.”
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“So you have no honor then? Are you a slave?”

”Yes, I am a slave. I was born a slave, and I will die a slave. The modern world is built on the back of slavery- and not bullshit Redmane slavery, still cringing and whining for more reparations because a few thousand of them were taken away from their shitty slave-markets from their country into ours. I mean real slavery- slavery of the mind and soul. I was born in a world where the morals and laws of the land were set in stone- where leadership was beyond accountability, and my people were broken and scattered among themselves. You speak of “honor” like it means anything to me. Honor? What is honor? It's a concept that exists in inferior, lesser socieities. You just criticized me for fighting for myself- why wouldn't I fight for myself? There is nothing else to fight for. I have no allies among my people- idiots constantly demanding their little racial shitstain be given extra advantages, little sociopaths rewarded. Why make friends when they'll move away, or bend you over for a quick buck? Why value your family when over half of all couples will end divorced and children end up in broken homes- at best, your children will toss you into a nursing home when they get to be your age- a far cry from the wise village elder thing you got going on here.”

“You claim to hate your society so much, but yet you have done nothing to change it. You can vote. You can join with others. You can move somewhere else.”

”Hah! Vote. That's the funniest thing you said so far. Elections are bought, not one. Not a single politician supports what I support- because that would mean getting rid of the biased courts and special rules that give them a leg up over the “normals” that they rule over. Move? Move where? Every scrap of land on the planet is owned. Every river, every electrical generator, every morsel of food is owned by someone and all of them want a cut. You say I am a soulless, selfish monster- and I am. That's because all of the selfless people were consumed long ago. How can I be friends with someone when everyone is willing to sell you out for a quick buck? Am I weak? Perhaps I am- but if everyone is as weak as me, perhaps it is not the people who are weak, but the system too strong. I don't believe in higher powers, Gods, or purposes- because they were optimized out of my thought process. In truth, you are lucky. If the colonial era happened just a few hundred years before, your people would have been killed and your land stolen. If a hundred years after, you'd be “democratized” and become the same soulless, rootless cosmopolitan society that I live in. Nobody I know thinks as I do- they are sold an identity, it is not forged by togetherness. I have no allies, no family, nothing. You call me a colonizer, but I was colonized first.”

“A man without brothers... that is no way to live.”
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In the end, the Elder calls off your interrogation and the torturer. You aren't free to go, however. You must be listed as MIA back at your base- and you know the Centralia army wouldn't risk an international incident to come looking for you here...

For now, you remain in the town filled with blondes. The small village is very rural and rustic- a mountain town where time and people move and talk slowly. It's a big change of pace from the big cities where you are from. With nothing else to do, you sit in the town square and watch the people go by.

It's interesting to look at them. The blondes are different from the Mainlanders- not just the color, but their physiology is slightly different. It's also interesting as you see their faces and bodies- you don't see a single one obese, critically underweight, or any number of facial or skeletal anomalies. You begin to piece together a theory as to why that is; the blondes have a more rough way of life then the Mainlanders. They still have access to most medicine, like the antibiotics they put you on, but their technology and infrastructure is not enough to allow every little underweight baby and sickly child to survive. People here have to be tough- you figure it has a eugenic effect. Look at how all of their males have the thick skin on their muzzles- a trait bred out of many Mainlanders which makes them unable to eat prickly fruits and sharp, sticking insects. Look at how long and strong their tails are- enough spidermonkey admixture from the prehistoric days exist to keep them able to support their own weight with a tail.

You figure you're going to be here a while. What should you do?

>Pick up as much Blondespeak as you can
>Ask the Elder about their culture
>Try to make a friend
>Other (Write in)
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>>5372578
>Pick up as much Blondespeak as you can
Truly...we live in a society.
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>>5372578
>Pick up as much Blondespeak as you can
>Ask the Elder about their culture
>Try to make a friend

Might as well try all three at once if we're really here a while. We can learn Blondespeak as we learn more from the Elder. If we get the chance to talk to more of the locals we can learn more about blonde culture and maybe pickup a friend or useful ally.
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>>5372578
>Pick up as much Blondespeak as you can
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>>5372578
>Pick up as much Blondespeak as you can
can't really make a friend without knowing the language
interesting to see Bananas embracing the "political containment thread"
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>>5372578
>Pick up as much Blondespeak as you can
Akule is a doomer who got the chance to force his manufactured neurosys back on society, he is /ourguy/.
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>>5372578
>Pick up as much Blondespeak as you can
>Ask the Elder about their culture
>Try to make a friend
But if it comes down to it
>Try to make a friend
Clearly the guy needs a girlfriend, fucking hell.
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>>5372578
>Try to make a friend
A man without brothers, eh? Let's fix that.
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>>5372571
I don't know about a prophetic shaman or anything like that, but...

>great physical strength
>eugenic and supremacist tendencies
>strong emphasis on tradition
>masks

...It KIND of seems like Akule's Hegemony is rooted way more in Blonde culture than that of the Mainlanders. Ironic, how the Blondes became just one more discriminated-against minority in the future. Their own cultural ideals, wielded against them. Ouch.
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>>5372739
Not culture, values. Blonde culture has stuff like the music and ethnic stuff. It would seem more that Akule will get inspiration from them to develop his own ideology.
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>>5372754
Values are part of culture, a BIG part. However, yes, I guess it's true that he seems to have rejected their material and artistic culture (except masks) in favour of the Mainlanders' video games and advertising-based social engineering.
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>>5372578
>Try to make a friend
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>>5372758
By 'values' i meant that he tooks specific things from their society. The blondes here aren't actively practicing eugenics, it just happened because their conditions didn't allow fat or sickly babies to survive.

Hegemony Culture, on the other hand, actively seeks eugenics.
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>>5372578
>Pick up as much Blondespeak as you can
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>>5372578
From most to least important, since we're going to be here for a while:
>Pick up as much Blondspeak as you can
>Ask the Elder about their culture
>Try to make a friend

Blondspeak first, then culture, then friend.
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>>5372578
>>Pick up as much Blondespeak as you can
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>>5372578
>Pick up as much Blondespeak as you can.
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You decide to pick up Blondespeak while you are here. The language of these people is unusual; while most people speak in the language of the Mainland after the colonial era, the geographic isolation and cultural uniqueness of the Blondes has kept them isolated. You don't hear any loan words- only except the concepts and names of nations that didn't exist for the blondes centuries ago.

Interestingly, the blondes have many words for many things. Some even some allegorical. The biggest example is for their knives; knife-keeping is a tradition that is only found in the most rural of Jaxtians in the modern day; cooking and housework are only done with safety peelers or automatic knife-machines; knife ownership is illegal because they can be used as weapons. But the blondes don't have a word for "knife", they have two words. They use "Clean" or "White" to mean one knife, and "Unclean" or "Black" to mean a different. The white used in home and for cooking, and the black used in the field, for hunting, and for fighting other tribes. It's an interesting historical fact- a sort of self fulfilling prophecy. Like living things, concepts like that evolve through selection pressures; tribes who adopted that tradition would face less sickness and infection at home while making their enemies suffer more, and as such it would eventually spread to all the blonde tribes.

Of course, learning a language isn't easy, and only being immersed in the native culture do you even get a taste of it. It is one such day near the village you come near something you didn't expect- a tiny, feeble bird fallen from the nearby try. Its nest had been loosed by a wind storm, maybe, or a thrown stone- it is impossible to tell. The poor thing is starved and looks at you without even an attempt to run away- have you imprinted upon it or is it too weak to even try to escape?

You don't think the blondes would much care for the life of a bird; not that they would listen to you much anyway. You're only here as a guest- and only barely.

What should you do?
>Take the baby bird and nurse it back to health
>Leave it to die
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Eh..no idea, honestly, nursing the bird is good and all, but at the same time, Akule doesn't seem to be too big on caring for the weak.
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>>5372945
>Take the baby bird and nurse it back to health
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>>5372945
>Leave it to die
Doomer gonna' doom.
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>>5372945
>>Take the baby bird and nurse it back to health
Sometimes the weakes looking chick can grow into the strongest Eagle.
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>>5372945
>Take the baby bird and nurse it back to health
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>>5372945
>Take the baby bird and nurse it back to health
He clearly need a friend.
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>>5373013
+1
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>>5372945
>Take the baby bird and nurse it back to health
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>>5372945
>Leave it to die

If he dies, he dies.
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>>5372945
>Take the baby bird and nurse it back to health
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>>5372945
>Take the baby bird and nurse it back to health
No infant can survive on their own, it takes family/society to raise a youngster. This bird has not yet had a chance to fail or succeed those tasks - even it we try to raise it, it might still die. But we will give it a chance to strive for a future.
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>>5372945
>Take the baby bird and nurse it back to health
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>>5372945
>Take the baby bird and nurse it back to health
Imagine thinking that the only way to win at nature is to zerg rush reproduction.
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>>5372945
>Take the baby bird and nurse it back to health
We feel for this bird, no family, no home
Also meta kickass legendary bird companion to add to Akule lore
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>>5371032
>the latest episose of Space Monke qst revolves around Akule's rise to power
Holy fucking shit. The kino is beyond comprehension and I am in awe.

>>5372945
>Take the baby bird and nurse it back to health
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You take the baby bird with you. In your cell, more like a small room in the central complex without even a lock on the door, you set up a nest for it by the window. Perhaps one day, it will learn to fly away on its own.

"Hmm. Is that your pet?"
"What- oh no. It was just injured..."
"You are kind to animals?"
"Yeah. I've always been good with animals. Better then people, honestly."
"Haha, I feel the same way."

You are met with by Brun Anak, the son of Zaj. He says he has come to check on you, and offer you work in the camp.

"I'm surprised you didn't force me to help out yet."

He frowns.

"We do not cut off tails here. Blondes do not take men as slaves."
"Every society takes slaves. Today, they are called felons and debt-inheritors. In the past, they were contracted employees. The name has changed, but not the status."
"We do not. We do not inflict such a shame upon a warrior."
"Are all blondes warriors?"
"Every man is."

You aren't sure how to respond.

"Do you consider yourself a warrior?"
"I am a Solider."
"That's not what I asked."

>Yes
>No
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>>5374328
>No
I don't think he would see himself as one. He fights because he has to, not because he wants to. He has no passion for it.
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>>5374328
>No
A soldier is just another type of slave.
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>>5374328
>No
A warrior is someone who fights for a cause. A warrior has honor. A soldier is just another tool, like the gun they wield
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>>5374328
>No
He doesn't really give a fuck about any of it, so does he?

Also, i noticed something, why do you often spell Solider? This is like, the 3rd time you've done it. It's not an simple typo because you did it like twice in a row in the OP and it's probably not an autocorrect given Solider is not a word.
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>>5374328
>No
This is not the Akule we know, this monkey shows little loyalty to the cause he "fights" for, this is the Akule we are guiding, training, and building into the monkey of legend
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>>5374328
>>No
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>>5374386
Well, Akule for sure ain't no Gasser or Liquider, therefore he supposes he's a Solider.
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>>5374328
>No

"I am no warrior. I have not fought for honour."
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>>5374404
I don't know, has he kidnapped any blonde children to turn into cyborgs?
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>>5374328
>Yes
Akule is one, even if it’s one without a cause. He fights because he chose to, not because he was forced to.
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>>5374328
>No
He's too much of a doomer to say yes even if the Blondes are probably right about him being on
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>>5374410
>>5374328
>No
Probably more honest.
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>>5374328

>No. A warrior is one who makes a life of war. Akule went to war to flee poverty, as did his nation-state. Also, he carries no knives, while Brun Anak Purple-Cloak keeps his black knife unsanitarily close to his white knife, as did the two other blondes. These knives are bound together at the hip.

Could Akule become a warrior? Yes.

Interesting that women are not warriors, and the door is left open to enslaving women.
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>>5374410
Supporting this version of 'no'.
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”No. I have never fought for honor, only for myself. Never a cause. I was a soldier, not a warrior.”
”But if circumstances were different, you could have been a warrior. Hence, all men are warriors.”
”Just men? Not women?”
”Oh please, all women are slaves.”
”That is considered very sexist in our society.”
”And? Women are slaves- they are first slaves to the men in their lives- their fathers, brothers, and then husbands- and then they are slaves again to their children. Please, the plights of women are of no interest to me.”

While his culture is much different and alien to your own; you feel there is some truth to his words. Perhaps in another life, you could have been a warrior. You always felt very strongly about the truth- you've always believed in some things. When you were younger, you even considered a career in politics to change what is wrong with society- but you knew it was folly. You began to only fight for yourself- and you don't think that is going to change any time soon.

Over the next few weeks, you and Brun become fast friends. He's only a year or two older then you, despite the fact you're already taller then he is. As the son of the local chief, he's very important and well respected among the blondes here. At first, you assume this is purely because of his heredity title, but you notice something else.

Because of the time you spent in the army, you learned a great deal about leadership. But the methods the army used to train and lead were much different. The army was bureaucratic, efficient, and ran like clockwork. The blondes are anything but- but more natural. Brun capitulates as he leads, compromising, dealing with individuals as they come and as they are, not as figures on a sheet. It's inspiring to see how much his people respect and value him- not as a boss or tell-all figure, but as a leader right there with them. You realize of course the only reason his methodology works is because of how few people he interacts with; someone so personal and intimate with their charges could never exist in a massive society like Centralia- with close to a billion people living within, the scale is simply too great for such a personal touch. But still, you feel inspiration.

Of course, you are still their prisoner. Though you live in the compound and do as they ask, you have not been grilled for information nor denied basic living and luxuries. You feel more adopted then enslaved. You get your chance to leave when, one day, you are reminded that you are technically among a flock of terrorists.
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”Within Northland, there is a Rapist. He's a Redmane, Alpha-type. He raped an innocent woman, and it is time for him to pay.”
”In Northland, not the reservation?”
”That is correct. I will be gone for a day or two to administer his punishment. All those who lust for flesh that is not their own will be blinded- so is the commandment of the Gods.”
”But... it's Northland. The woman wasn't even a blonde.”
”That is correct.”
”So why do you care?”
”What?! Akule, how could you say such things? What he is done is wrong- he will be punished!”
”I don't understand. The victim and the perpetrator are not your people. Would it not make more sense to leave him there so he can brutalize more of your enemy?”
”Akule...”
”What? You yourself said you want to defend the reservation, the blonde way of life.”
”The blonde way of life doesn't allow for predators to go unpunished! Why would you defend a Redmane?”
”I wouldn't. In my country, women can't walk the streets at night because of Redmanes. Strong and more often Alpha-types then most men, yes, but not worth their latent criminality. Our culture teaches all are the same under the fur, but we all know it is not true. I hate their ugliness and their stupidity. But once again- this is not your battle.”
”I'm disappointed in you, Akule. All injustice is my battle.”
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You have no idea what this idiot is talking about.

Brun speaks so proudly of his own race, and his own people, despite the fact he is incompatible with all others. It's true, you yourself have racist beliefs, why wouldn't you? You are a Mainlander, mutt race as it is, and you don't like living among the Redmanes either. But even Redmanes look more like your own people then the blondes do- does he not understand?

Races cannot live together. They can only subsume or destroy each other. There is no other outcome. The blondes only live as their own distinct culture because of their geographical and political separation from each other. Even the minor financial and societal barriers in your country, separating the unintelligent race from the intelligent, it cannot stop the cultural cross contamination. You've seen Mainlander children singing Redmane songs and wearing Redmane clothes. The blondes know nothing.

But Brun is above all else proud and stubborn- and he is also smart and capable. You know he will succeed in this quest. You're just surprised when he comes to you again, just before they leave.

”Akule. Can we talk?”
”Sure.”

It has been a day since you last argued with him. He seemed apologetic.

”Would you come with us?”
”Wh-what?”
”It could be useful to have a Mainlander with us on your jihad. You'll blend in with the Northlanders must better then we can. If you can help us identify him, we can nab him.”
”Brun... I said this was not your battle before- and perhaps I was wrong- but I know for certain this is not mine. I do not worship your Gods, nor do I follow their commands.”
”You will not be the hand that delivers the punishment, Akule, merely help guide it. What do you say?”

>Help out
>Refuse
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>Help out
REDMANES could be here
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>>5375266
>Help out
Do our strange mountain-buddy a solid.

Redmanes look badass. Shame they're extinct.
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>>5375266
>Help out
What are friends for?
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>>5375277
They look ugly as fuck, i thought someone spilled raw minced meat on him for some reason. From akule says, it's like if you had an entire race of Agoris with hoodlum tier etiquette
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>>5375266
>Help out
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>>5375277
From the sound of it, Mainlanders are mix-raced. My bet is that Redmanes were absorbed/folded into the Mainlanders, both genetically and culturally.
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>>5375291
Yeah, no.

It's pretty obvious that Mainlanders are supposed to be a mix of multiple denominatons. I'd suppose it'd be what would happen if you took every nationality (german, french, british, scandinavian) and mashed it into one. That'd just be european.

Redmanes seem to be their own thing. Closer, but they're not genetically integrated. And we know the hegemony just straight up erased all of them, too. The only people who haven't been genocided by the time of Vantix (which is like, thousands of years from now) are the Blondes and Mainlanders.
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>>5375277
I predict a red maned gene being dug out of the the hegemony when we go into actual planet raiding, maybe as an antagonist or maybe as dark harbingers of the hegemoney we might have to put into stasis between fights
>>5375266
>Help out
We need to become a warrior
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>>5375297
Interesting and all, but it wouldn't help. We already have custom-made giga-alphas who are stronger than any redmane. All you'd be doing is making them retarded and unable to think past the present.
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>>5375266
>>Help out


>>5375277
Thank god we dont have to deal with them in the main quest.
I do think they look cool. Wonder if there were ever green manes or orange manes.
>>5375284
I too thought it was some meat before i started reading.

Does the Main quest timeline have Gene babies? Like Designer babies?

>>5375304
Has a point
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>>5375266
>Help out
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Well, it’s good to know Akule’s racism was something he began with, although it’s nice to see him making friends.
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>>5375306
>Like Designer babies?
Yes, and no. There are clones, but they aren't just assembled, they're made from previous people's DNA. And it certainly ain't "designed" to people, the government just decides when they want to make one.
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>>5375304
Im not saying its an outright truth anon, but we are actively being presented more lore that definitely expands the thinking players are going to be taking in regards to our own race, it might not even be a thing we stumble upon as much as the gene just reactivating itself through an unforseen mutation or a mother to an Jaxtian with delusions of grandeur raising a herculian figure under the teachings of the hegemony, Red manes hold more power than blondes or mutts like Akule in his time which puts into question the status they hold and any fringe beliefs some jaxtians, especially the more belief susceptible blondes, will hold on seeing a redmane in the far future
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>>5375310
The real racism was the friends we made along the way
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>>5375315
> Red manes hold more power than blondes or mutts like Akule in his time
No they don't. They're obviously an "protected minority", this whole thing just looks like an allegory for europe and "troubled youths"
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>>5375315
Not arguing against you either just arguing to cause discussion, I agree its probably a bad idea kinda why I put "Dark Harbinger" as a descriptor but I feel it would be accurate seeing a squad of metal gorillas and a larger metal gorilla with a giant red mane would give me hardcore 40k vibes
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>>5375296
That’s what I mean by absorbed later. Stronger muscles are useful, the identity less so. Don’t turn the containment meme into a reality lad.
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>>5375318
Aint that just it though boss? The people are scared to offend the real monsters because a few wackos said "They aint all bad" and theyll be punished for speaking out, the only real justice is coming from another country from a "genetically inferior" people, but their morals and foundation set them apart as well, has Akule ever actually met a redmane? Would a redmane of the future hold that type of sentiment if it was truly a minority in a place where they do take statistics into consideration?
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>>5375266
>Help out
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>>5375324
>Stronger muscles are useful, the identity less so
It's, apparently, less that they are stronger, and more that they are alphas more often.
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>>5375330
The hell you talking about, mate? Redmanes, like he said, have a tenedency to do stuff like rape. They're not dealt with, generally speaking, because of centrallia's corrupt political thought.

That's all he's said. Society has no real values and only tries to preach togetherness to ignore any real issues.
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>>5375266

>Help out
Fuck redmanes.
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>>5375314
Actually, the government does design them. We could revoke Talcent’s decision and create Indigo Ubermensch to replace the Monke Race in a generation if we wished it.

>>5375315
Da fuq?

>>5375337
Modern society you mean. The Blondie’s more traditional society has real values that tries to address real issues, they wouldn’t be invested in bringing this rapist to justice otherwise.
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>>5375266
>Help out
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>>5375284
Agori was a fine lad at first, undone more by trauma and self-loathing than by his genes.
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>>5375337
>Redmanes, like he said, have a tenedency to do stuff like rape. They're not dealt with, generally speaking, because of centrallia's corrupt political thought.

This is what Akule believed. Akule is a racist doomer who became an "Unspeakable" tyrant after adopting some of the customs of some theocratic noble savages, and then his regime re-instituted many of the same identity-eroding policies he seemed to have reviled.

Don't take it at 100% face-value, even if it aligns with what you know (or believe you know) of the real world. Just like Yaun'tul's monologues about the "obvious", "objective" flaws of Jaxtian society, there is the possibiltiy we are dealing with a biased narrator.

Don't forget, Bananas doesn't actually like totalitarians, just thinks they're inevitable
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>>5375499
This is also what Brun and his friends believe as well, otherwise they wouldn’t be doing this jihad. Also, we haven’t even gotten passed Page 1, curb your own biased narration until we actually finish this quest, alright?
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>>5375499
I'm taking at 100% face value now.
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>>5375532
>This is also what Brun and his friends believe as well, otherwise they wouldn’t be doing this jihad.

Maybe. From what we see, Brun believes in holding Redmanes (and everyone), individually, to the moral standards of his Blonde religion. This differs from the collective racial judgement which Akule's Hegemony would later adopt.

>curb your own biased narration until we actually finish this quest, alright?

All I said is we should withhold judgement based on real-life suppositions, and pointed out what Bananas literally said about his belief and the internal logic of this quest in the QTG. It isn't me being biased. I'm just reminding people to not take everything Akule says as gospel, and the be aware of the author's beliefs when trying to understand his world's internal logic.
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>>5375543
Let me just make this very clear now; I don't believe in SHIT.
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>>5375557
I wouldn't believe in fecal matter either, monkey man.
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>>5375541
>>5375543
Anon, you just stated what you believed about Akule at face value, then told us not to take our interpretations at face value, all from the first page in this thread. MonkeGondi’s story hasn’t even been told yet, just wait.

>>5375557
>Let me just make this very clear now; I don't believe in SHIT.
Kim Jong-un Status Achieved.
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>>5375568
I didn't. Akule's SOCIETY adopted certain norms. We've had many thread to establish and explore them. We also now have a baseline of what Akule believes, thanks to his personal dialogues and monologues (though that may change). I suppose it's possible he's posturing, so I guess I could be misjudging him, though.

>>5375557
Nobody is utterly without beliefs, and you've stated at least a couple of yours in the /qtg/, but if you'd prefer to play it close to the chest, you do you.
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>>5375532
Fully agree, you should still seperate yourself from the MC however for the sake of plot IMO again not arguing against your opinion again, I love back and forth even when im berated for my schizo sidetracks and sorry for trying to force plot, I just really like bananas twists and im always looking for the next no matter how little the reference
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>>5375581
>Akule is a racist doomer who became an "Unspeakable" tyrant after adopting some of the customs of some theocratic noble savages, and then his regime re-instituted many of the same identity-eroding policies he seemed to have reviled.
You did.

Akule’s Society adopted certain norms after a Nuclear Holocaust wiped out the Old World Order in a worldwide apocalypse, which I’m sure shook up norms quite a bit. Plus, the kid is 19, he’s still an edgy teen with developing opinions even if he’s giving off kidnapped!Ceaser vibes. Just don’t judge a book by the first page, yea?

>>5375584
I get schizo sidetracked as well, it happens when you’re so hyped for something (Steins;Gate was my original hype). If you’re looking for a twist though, here’s a meme of MonkeGandhi.
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>>5375618
All the things I said about him are either currently true (but maybe, as I said, change) or are lastingly-true of the civilization which resulted from his ascent and legacy.
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>>5375623
Again, face value, and this civilization is a result of many leaders, not just the founding one. Akule’s regime ended long before this quest’s beginning.
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“This is a Breaking News Alert! I'm your host, Nayl Miss. Tonight, in Northland, an egregious and blatant act of terror and violence in broad daylight. The victim, a 24 year old Redmane, was accosted by a group of masked blonde men carrying knives on their person outside of their home- a crime in Northland- before apparently stabbing the victim in both eyes and then driving away in a large unmarked van back over the border into the Blonde Reservation Zone. This gruesome act of violence was claimed to be done in retaliation for the alleged sexual misconduct between the Redmane second generation refugee and the anti-womens' reproductive-rights activist Dmali Radoor. While Dmali refused to comment on both the trial and the attack she did say quote “my decision to not abort the pregnancy remains- it would be wrong to kill a child for the actions of his or her mother or father”- endquote. I would also like to remind our viewers a little Breaking News Factcheck- a fetus is not a child as defined by the Mainland Dictionary. The Redmane, who name will remain anonymous due to his future legal proceedings, was awarded with free bail from the Northland government because of his status as a marginalized Jaxtian.”

“...We have also revived some more information- the Golden Hand has taken full responsibility for the attack. The religious terror group, still publicly known and active inside the Blonde indigenous Reservation- Is it time to allow Centralia Peacekeeping Forces to enter and make arrests within the reservation? What are the political ramifications of the reservation still not allowing the extradition of the infamous terrorist leader, Zaj Anak? Later tonight we'll have our political experts and insider in the Centralian government on potential sanctions- in the meantime, the Northland Peacekeeping forces would like to assure the citizens of Northland that they will be doing all they can to protect them and this this egregious crime will not go unpunished- it is being investigated as a hate crime. This is Nayl Miss reporting from Breaking News Headquarters- don't go away.”
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You hop into the back of the unmarked van down the street before they veer away. As you enter, you see the other blondes- Brun's friends and companions. They are coated in blood- wiping away the red stains and ocular fluid from their knives.

It's true, you are a soldier. You were desensitized to violence and trained to kill. But you never, ever though you'd see something like this. It was almost thoughtlessly easy to order the attack- all you did was say which direction he was heading from the city square and the men did the rest, but now you're feeling a little queezy. You've shot at people before, yeah, but they are always little black dots on a far away hillside. Just the thought of pushing a knife into someone's face- or eyesocket- even worse, just makes you feel a little uncomfortable. The blondes are in high spirits, as for yourself, you are reminded of the fact you were probably only about a five minute run from the embassy.

Later, once you are back at the encampment, you go to your room to find your bird box empty. Looks like he flew away.

”Hey, Akule. Thanks for your help today.”
”Oh? Yeah, thanks. I didn't do much though.”
”Nonsense! You performed cool under pressure and you didn't stand out either. You'd make a good spy.”
”Uhh... Thanks?”
”Why so glum?”
”I don't know, just seems pretty... harsh.”
”For a rapist?”
”No no, just... I wish it just never happened. You know?”
”Well, so do I, but you can't control what can or can't happen. Punishments like this ensure they don't happen again.”
”Making him blind would turn the Redmane into a cripple and dependent on the state for the rest of his life- as much as he was already. Wouldn't it be better just to have killed him?”
”Harsh punishments can give people a chance to learn from their mistakes, a dead man learns nothing. Tell me, would you rather be blind or dead?”
”Dead, probably.”

Brun frowns, but says nothing.
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It has now been three months since you were brought among the blondes, and you find yourself much more at home now. Friends with Brun and proficient at Blondespeak, you are allowed to go out as far as you like now. The temptation to return home is still there, but you find it harder and harder to think of a single reason to leave. You don't know if you'd be punished for desertion, for one, and two, what exactly do you have to go back to? An aging mother who passed her life-long debt to you? A civilian life in a tiny one room apartment on government welfare?

Brun invited you to drive to the next nearest town before you got a flat tire. With no reception out here anyways, and the season being perfect for it, you both decide to camp out under the stars instead.

”Wow, look at the sky. I can actually see the galaxy.”
”Hmm? You've never seen it?”
”In pictures online and in books, yeah, but never in person. Never with my own eyes. It's the light pollution.”
”We never call it a galaxy. For us, it is a belt.”
”A belt?”
”Yes. Our people knew first that the world was round. We thought it was very fat, so it had to wear a belt to stop from spilling out into the sky.”
”Pfft. What a silly superstition.”
”Silly?! Do you even know their names, Akule?”
”The bright ones? That's Vetuck, and that's Nan.”
”...You seem to miss the things right in front of your face- what's the name of the Galaxy?”

>Write In
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>>5375760
>>Write In
the Milky Way

So we have to force QM to make humans cannon. maybe even genocide or make peace with them.
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>>5375760
>Gongalla Galaxy
Hehehe
Alternatively:
>Astra Galaxy
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>>5375760
I'm certain that there's probably a good monkey-related name someone could make
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>>5375774
Not really? Even if it was, they could just not exist. Or this could be set fifty billion years before humans existed.

Either way, cringe.
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I got nothing.
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>>5375760
>It's Proconsulus
I just searched for the oldest ape ancestor I really hope that this isn't a trick question and the name of the galaxy was said in some past thread.
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>>5375760
>"Danborial"

>"I hear that philosophers of the past talked of the galaxy as if it was a great Danbo tree. That the stars and worlds were fruit that might be leapt between, as if suspended upon branches high up in that nothingness."
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>>5375884
>>5375913
Supporting either of these.
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>>5375913
+1
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>>5375780
Great Banana?
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>>5375913
+1
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>>5375884
I like this one
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>>5375760
>Sanig
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>>5375913
+1 Danbo Yggdrasil sounds based as fuck
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>>5375913
+1
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>>5375913
I'll support this.
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>>5376419
The CEO of Racism....
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>>5376419
Ah, so it is going to be ‘that’ sort of story, huh?
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>>5376419
Nothing like a little genocide to start the day.
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>>5376433
Ehh, we already knew from the start that akule genocided everyone. This isn't even the start. At some point, there's gonna be a nuclear holocaust that is so horrible that jaxtians thousands of years laters have an inherent fear of nukes to the point they would have exterminated the swall if they had them
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>>5375913

>Support. Ripe fruit, waiting to be plucked from the world tree.
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>>5375284
Akule isn't known for accuracy and sanity.
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>>5376419
>The Black expy monkes are genocided by being put in cages on boats
Jeezy Pete.
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>>5376419
It would be more believable if Akule killed the redmanes using masturbation machines and made lampshades from their hides
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>>5376678
masturbation machines are to be used only on the Goldnoses.
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”The Danborial. The great tree of the cosmos.”
”You have quite the imagination. That's not it.”
”So it's Proconsulus then? The ancestor of all apes?”
”Wha- Akule. We live in the Lotus Galaxy. I thought Mainlander got a better scientific education then we did!”
”Oh... I knew that.”

You're actually feeling a little embarrassed. You somehow forgot that was the name of your galaxy. You guess it really hasn't come up since your admittedly pitiful public schooling. The blonde by your side is laughing at you now.

”The “Danborial”- pfft ahaha. How did you come up with that!”
”Shut up! I guess I just keep my eyes down to earth instead of up in the clouds.”
”Yeah, maybe if you stick your face in the dirt!... Which is not a good look for you, Akule. It doesn't suit you to kneel.”
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The next day, you have your truck repaired and you return to your “prison” compound. With Braun still with you, you ask him what you were even making that trip for in the first place.

”Oh just some ammunition, some supplies, things like that. And one special package- just for you.”
”Hmm?”
”It's your knives.”

Suddenly, you are presented with a pair of white and black handled knives- with sheathes and a belt. Just like the ones the tribal blondes wear.

”What!? Brun, I can't accept this.”
”Why not?”
”This is... not my way. This is your people's custom, not mine. I have no use for a knife- at least as a weapon.”
”What, never fought with one? The military never trained you?”
”No. We're supposed to use the butt of our rifle if we need to fight up close, until we can clear the way for a point blank shot. Or if hand to hand is required, usually we engage a hold...”
”Fuck that. You're gonna learn how to use one of these. Just like us.”

Brun's already drawn his, stuffing your own white-handled knife into your hand.

”What are you doing!? I am not going to spare with you with such a sharp blade. Are you insane?”
”No, we'll just be touching tip to tip- hehe. Sparring is always done with the clean blade- you will be fine. Little knick on your finger won't kill you.”

You find yourself strangely nervous. Despite military training, playing around with blades is making you feel a sense of anxiety. You feel guns are more predictable. Knives are quick. How are you going to do this? You don't think Brun is going to take no for an answer.

>Try to cut him
>Avoid injuring Brun
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>>5376730
>Try to cut him
He's going to be way, way better than us. Don't be stoopid.
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>>5376730
>Try to cut him
We don't want to injure ourselves, but he's forcing us to do this... so he'll have to take the cuts if we can deliver them.
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>>5376730
>Try to cut him
We have to actually try or this is going to be fruitless and we might get hurt
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>>5376730
>>Try to cut him

>tip to tip
Fuck off
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>>5376730
>Try to cut him
I trust you Brun.
If he ends up dead from this duel I swear Allah Bananas….

>>5376437
I was hoping for a bit of subversion on that front to be honest. Like, we turn Akule into Gandhi by the end, and have the horrifying reality be that it doesn’t matter, his tale and teachings twisted and distorted by time and the monstrous machine he created. Like, I wouldn’t expect accurate history from a totalitarian regime of all things. Instead, people will just Other Akule as a racist monster rather than reflecting on the nature of the Beast itself.

Oh well, here’s hoping that this prequel turns out to be a better Solo movie than Disney gave to Han. Would Monke!Walt Disney Nathan Nut-Thief as his mascot?
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>>5376730
>Avoid injuring Brun
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>>5376730
>Try to cut him
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>>5376730
>Avoid injuring Brun
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>>5376419
>redmanes bad even though they have BRC
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You end up trying to cut Brun. It's nothing personal- it's just that you know he's going to be much more experienced with knife fighting then you- since you can't possibly match his ability to deflect and control the point of the knives, you focus on offense.

”You missed!”
”Grrr... Stop- fucking-!”
”You'll never hit me like that!”

Bastard. He's way too quick. You start to make more powerful and faster swipes, with him deflecting each point- eventually, he has to take a step back from your wild swings.

”Phew- Akule! I didn't know you were so angry with me. Did I do something to offend you?”
”... No.”
”You'll need a lot of practice. Both with the blade, and with controlling your anger. This is not a weapon for butchers and Alpha-Male-Headed men. Anything you feel within must be held back- reserved, like water a second from boiling. Strong and fierce, but controlled. You will learn, and I will teach you.”
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Some time later, you find yourself in the back of another van- this time, by your own volition. You are traveling to a slum in Northland again.

”It's the Greenfaced, this time?”
”These Greenfaced, Akule. What are they like in your country?”
”In Centralia? They mostly kept to themselves... Hardworking, at least. Insular. Not the worst traits for an immigrant.”
”They work hard to impoverish others, that is indeed true. These ones open businesses that prey on people- casinos, loan sharks, real estate, landlords... they use money to make more money. Especially the loans. They charge people huge interest rates, compounding their interest every week to make them pay the maximum amount- some people end up paying five, ten, even twenty times more then they borrowed.”
”That's pretty bad but... they agreed to the loan. They can read the fine print.”
”And? It's usury. They don't do it to everyone equally either. They borrow money between each other all the time- what percentage do they charge then? Nothing. The scum that work at this one have stolen so much from this community, some blondes too, that they made all local businesses go bankrupt. It's wrong. We aren't going to stand for it any more.”

At dusk, you sneak towards the property line seeing its pristine condition in this scummy neighborhood. The truth is you held your tongue about the Greenfaces to Brun- you really disliked them. Their beady eyes and the way they jabber on in another language right in your face, you can just tell they are talking about you behind your back. You never liked them, honestly, but you never thought this would be something you'd be doing either.

”Brun, what are we doing here?”
”What- out of ideas?”

>Vandalize the property
>Break in and find something to steal
>Start a fire and burn it to the ground
>Other (write in)
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>>5377264
>Break in and find something to steal
TAKE BACK OUR MONEY BBY
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>>5377275
What are we going to do with money in some far-off mountain village, stoopid?
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>>5377264
>Break in and find something to steal, and give it to the poor.
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>>5377264
>Break in and find something to steal, and give it to the poor.

Feels goooood man.
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>>5377280
>>5377284
Won't that just result in the poor people getting screwed over once they call the cops onto them for owning stolen money?
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>>5377264
>>Start a fire and burn it to the ground
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>>5377264

>Get a Centralia flag and hang it discretely in a corner, like the greenfaces are flying it in secret.

The goal is to frame the greenfaces as secret Centralia sympathizers.
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>>5377306
The people already don't like'em math
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>>5377310
mate*
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We can burn down one store. Northland can instigate pogroms.
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>>5377278
MO MONEY NO PROBLEMS
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>>5377264
>Start a fire and burn it to the ground
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>>5377264
>Break in and find something to steal

Akule getting radicalized by the Monke Apache Taliban is pretty interesting.
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>>5377284
+1
Remember the canon info we know about Akule's bloodline...
>Strong moral core
>Innate love of living things
Makes me feel like we made the "right" choice with the bird, too.
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>>5377264

>>5377280
>Break in and find something to steal, and give it to the poor.

Seconding this.
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>>5377264
>Break in and find something to steal
The other two options they could get back with insurance, stealing something will at least give wealth towards us or someone else if we give to the poor.
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>>5378381
What was he even banned for.
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>>5378387
A janny from the Greenfaced tribe was mad about being called out.
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>>5378387
Writing interracial cuckoldry and humansized mosquito sex.
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>>5378654
Bedbugs, based on the reproductive method.

>>5378412
I am hoping Bananas is going somewhere with this thread's thinly-veiles racial commentary.
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>>5376419
Monkey Drown in Lake! Million Pity for Red Monkey Family Drown in Cage
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>>5378659
>I am hoping Bananas is going somewhere with this thread's thinly-veiles racial commentary.
Yes, genocide. That's how it ends. Being a prequel, we mostly seem to follow Akule in his early years.
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>>5378688
I meant sormwhere interesting along that journey, as opposed to just a catalogue of the reasons he didn't like not-Jews and not-Blacks.
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Punishing the Green-Faces with arson or vandalizing the place seems counter intuitive. After all, the blondes don't like them for hoarding wealth. So it makes the most sense to take that wealth.

”We should steal it.”

With that, Brun nods and directs his men. Within moments, you've broken through the meager locks and have entered inside. Just as you suspected; the Green-Faces stored much of the value of this business right here on the property. Looks like their distrust of everyone else paid off- not stored in a bank.

”What's that note, Akule?”
”It says... Uncle, Father... with phone numbers next to them. One of their clients probably stopped answering their phone and they want to call their family members to try and harass them until they can collect.”
”That's horrible! Surely such a thing doesn't happen in Centralia.”
”Well, banks don't do that there, but mostly because you can't block their numbers...”

In the back of the office is a few large vaults and locked doors with large amounts of wealth- mostly paper money, but also some gold, jewelry, and other valuables.

“This will fuel the Jihad...”
”No- we should give it away to someone who needs it more. Charity.”
”Brun, you all came all this way out here...”
”So? In that case- take enough to pay for gas and drinks for all of us, then we donate the rest. A small bad deed among a good. The Gods would smile.”
“Yes! Brun is wise- you truly are the Son of the Chief.”

That settles that. Soon enough, the goods are given away freely- no strings attached- to the orphans and displaced children from the occupation in Northland. Scarcely few blondes among them, but the terrorists you are bunking with seem not to mind that very much at all.
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News of your minor victory spur a great deal of praise from when you get back to the compound- not that you did much. Brun is given most of the praise- but deflects all of it to him, his fellows, and even yourself. Technically still his captive, more then anything.

That night, a small ceremony is announced. One of the elders wants to play a song. He begins on the Cajamat, a real ugly screechy thing with two strings. Many of the blondes sit around, with Brun and yourself invited, as the elder plays a very, very old song.

>Talk to Brun
>Listen closely to the song
>Excuse yourself
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>>5380411
>Listen closely to the song
It would be disrespectful to talk, probably
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>>5380411
>Listen closely to the song
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>>5380411
>Excuse yourself
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>>5380411
>Listen closely to the song
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>>5380411
>Listen closely to the song
That ballad from the future blond was cool.
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>>5380411
>Listen closely to the song
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>>5380411
>Listen closely to the song
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>>5380411
>Listen closely to the song
>Talk to Brun after about it
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>>5380411
>Excuse yourself
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>>5380517
>mfw present time Hegemony, with all of its social engineering, even at it's worst, is way, way less brutal than Akule's reign
>mfw I have no face since it was peeled of.
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>>5380517
>>5377576
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>>5380517
Bahaha, that makes sense why the Takars have a green muzzle. Seems the Green face bloodline did pretty well for themselves in the Hegemony.
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>>5380517
I'm guessing that's uh, organ harvesting yes?
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>>5380517
>Anastesia, when you get dissected, is the REWARD for betraying yourself to the genocider of your people
Holy fucking hell Akule
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>>5380771
Unless you were a self-made millionaire, I guess. Then you get forcibly bred into Mainland stock.
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>>5380771
Well, to be fair, they don't exactly *need* them to cooperate, do they? It's the usual 'if you cooperate, i'll give you a clean death'

Except this time they're just harvesting the organs and the reward is not suffering horrible pain.
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You listen closely to the Blondish song. More then the words themselves, you listen between the lines.

The blondes are an old culture. At this point in time, they are probably the only traditional culture left on this planet, mostly untouched and untainted from the others. Their cultural values are alien to your own- the ideas of libertine democracy are not present in their culture. There are values that are present; and the way the song is sung makes you feel as though the people here believe in what they believe very strongly. Even if it is ultimately wrong. Gods and ancient heroes aren't real. There is no special afterlife, nor strength of the spirit that lets the hero of this ballad win no matter what.

But you will say this about the ballad; it is simple, clean, performed with heart. You can see Brun smiling, even though you are sure he has heard it before. It is not novelty that motivates the crowd's reception of quiet concentration, somehow many times more respectful towards the performer then a stadium of cheering fans.

Truthfully, you grew up in a time and place immersed in a world where stories exist in context of other stories. Every story is judged, consciously or not, against every other story- but the blonde's song isn't set up that way. The characters grow and change, but there is no grand twist. The same values at the start of the song are exalted at its end. Something about it, its straightness or how “cliche” it would be in your own culture, makes you feel like you're missing something. The hero stays a hero and the villain stays a villain- and even the pessimist inside you trying to find it can't see the thinly veiled social commentary of the age of when it was written. This is a story that exists for the sake of being a story.
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Later, Brun and yourself duel yet again. Your knifework is something you've developed a small passion for, and you seem a natural study. However, during a misstep, Brun's knife accidentally cuts into the webbing between your thumb and hand, disabling your knife hand.

”Fuck- ouch!”
”Oh no, Akule, I am sorry.”
”It's alright...”

You pick up your knife again with your other hand. You won't be using your right for a while.

”Hmm? You're using your left hand?”
”Might as well. We can continue practicing.”
”I thought you were right handed.”
”I am. Well, I'm pretty ambidextrous, but it's still right hand dominant.”
”Akule... you never told me. Left handed knife fighters are already a rarity, but one who can use both hands equally well... that is a rare talent indeed. The type of hero only songs sing about.”
”Oh please. I am no hero.”
”I am sorry for injuring your hand, oh great one!” He says, with a mock bow.
”Oh, shut up! I know it wasn't on purpose.”
”It was the little evil.”
”Hmm? I thought that was the blonde word for accident- why did you pronounce it that way?”
”There are three evils, Akule. That is the nature of evil.”

>Ask Brun about the nature of evil
>Train your knife fighting more fiercely now
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>>5381080
>Ask Brun about the nature of evil
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>>5381080
>Ask Brun about the nature of evil
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>>5381080
>Ask Brun about the nature of evil
Doomer Akule
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>>5381080
>Ask Brun about the nature of evil
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>>5381080
>Ask Brun about the nature of evil
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>>5381080
>Ask Brun about the nature of evil
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>>5381075
>and even the pessimist inside you trying to find it can't see the thinly veiled social commentary of the age of when it was written.
That doesn't make sense, Akule notices here

>. Gods and ancient heroes aren't real. There is no special afterlife, nor strength of the spirit that lets the hero of this ballad win no matter what.

That in itself is a social message, even if the message is as simple as "Gods are real and the strength of spirit lets you win no matter what."
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>>5381204
Akule is from a very post-modern, relativist society inundated with narrative subversion, irony, self-awareness, and meta-commentary (get it? it's us!), so for HIM a straight-forward and unnuanced message like that barely even counts as social commentary. A story about heroes being heroic and villains being villanous, with no twists, no antiheroic impulses or moral relativism, and no clever (or "clever") moral message about the politics of the day might as well be a children's fairy tale.
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>>5381080
>Ask Brun about the nature of evil
>and the nature of good as well
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>>5381080
>Ask Brun about the nature of evil
>Practice the basic forms with the left hand. Traditions became tradition for a reason. No need to deviate until the hand knows the first principles by heart.
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”What exactly are the “three evils”, Brun?”
”Not all evils are evil, Akule, You know this. The little evil is our word for accidents. The evil that is done by animals, nature, children- and the unwary. This is the little evil. We demand payment for damaged property or lost time, or a sincere apology for a slighted friend, or public work if the evil harmed the public. All punishments must fit the crime. The second evil is true evil- the intentional, directed evil. Done against a stranger or a victim, an act of hate. Rape, theft, deceit, usury, sabotage... this is evil that is punished in the manner of which it was done. Lustful eyes are put out, thievish hands are cut off, broken vows are answered with broken bones.”
”Our culture would consider that barbaric.”
”Evil is barbaric. If the punishment to cruelty is not cruelty, then what else could be a fitting punishment? Is the guilty party not deserving of the same cruelty they inflicted on the innocent? To treat the guilty better then the innocent, as your culture does, is a gross injustice. It is the greatest evil.”
”Injustice?”
”No... Another word. ...Betrayal.”
”I have never heard on of your people speak this word.”
”That word we do not use in this language, Akule. It is taboo. It is the unspeakable. Betrayal is the worst evil of all; it is the only evil that strikes twice. The first is when the evil is committed, and then the second? When the injured realizes they have been betrayed. Surely my wife would not cheat on me with another man, there must be a misunderstanding, we've been together for so long. Surely our trusted priest would not lie to us and steal from us, he is a respected holy man. To know that someone you believe in and love so closely used that trust for themselves is the sharpest knife, pulled and twisted, worse then a stranger and worst then an act of the Gods. Trust broken is the worst evil of all. Do you understand?”
”I do.”

As the time goes on, the season changes. It begins to get cold, and then snow. The pleasant though dry alpine climate quickly changes to freezing cold as windstorms and rain freezes the compound. Communications between the different tribes of the reservation stop as people begin to hole up for the winter.
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”Is it always this cold in the winter, Brun?”
”To be honest with you... no. This is unusual.”
”It may be climate change.”
”I do not believe in such a thing. Jaxtians are fools to believe their actions can upset the balance brought by the Gods.”
”Believe what you wish. It will make life hell for everyone either way.”
”By making our heat less intense and our winters more like the rest of the world?”

Brun obviously doesn't understand the concept, but you can't help but find his clever assertion amusing. After all, there is truth to it.

”Of course- you may not be negatively effected, but the rest of the world will be. There are billions of people on this planet, and a majority of them live near the coasts and equatorial zones. It will cause a mass exodus. Every nation on Jaxt will be overflowing with unskilled labor and climate refugees- and the crime, poverty, and hatred they bring with them.”
”If you do not care for them- Simply don't let them into your borders.”
”Centralia's coward government will let them in.”
”It is a good thing I do not live in Centralia then.”
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For the past four hours you have been outside- scanning the horizon. It has gotten dark out and the last shafts of sunlight fade away- even your coat can't keep in your body heat.

”Fuck... hurry up...”

You were told that someone was going to be returning to the camp before nightfall. You can't miss them- they are an important messenger belonging to the Golden Hand.

Even worse- you know what tonight is. This is the First Day, or in other words, the day after New-Years. For the blondes, this is a religious holiday celebrating the first day of creation that the Gods made. You know there is a warm kitchen and dining room with a feast just waiting downstairs- and you're stuck doing this bullshit.

If nobody comes before nightfall, you can go downstairs. But if not, you'll miss something important and somebody could even die- you can't mess this up. Brun will never trust you with jobs like this again if you don't. It's so damn cold, you just want to go downstairs already. You make a final scan of the horizon- do you see anyone?

>Yes
>No
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>>5381413
>Yes
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>>5381413
Anyone know what that thing in the bottom is? In the snow.
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>>5381413
>Yes
Pic related looks like a dead/collapsed dude and a trail leading to him.
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>>5381413
>>Yes
Abnormalities in red
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>>5381413
>Yes
That lump of snow looks suspicious
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>>5381413
>Yes
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>>5381413
>Yes
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>>5381413
Wait wait I think I see them. The three snow lumps in the middle, White lines where they meet the actual snow.
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>>5381412
You know, if the Climate Catastrophe was really happening, the rich wouldn’t own beachfront properties, and if you contrast the water levels of the Statue of Liberty between it’s creation and now, you’ll find how eerily similar they are, considering we should all be under water by now. But hey, it’s not like a global cabal of elites are inciting climate doomsday hysteria as a justification for increasing authoritarianism and personal gain, that would be silly, right?

>>5381413
Watch as the real answer to the puzzle be No, and Bananas is just trolling us.
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>>5381559
Wait, the Jaxtians have a Statue of Liberty, too? Is it in Centralia? I mean, you wouldn't just be going on a silly little off-topic ramble, would you?
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>>5381559
>But hey, it’s not like a global cabal of elites are inciting climate doomsday hysteria as a justification for increasing authoritarianism and personal gain, that would be silly, right?

Yeah, it would be silly because it assumes the elites are a monolith. There are many powerful groups that DON'T benefit from climate hysteria. Like the oil and gas lobby, and pretty much all the carbon emitting industries. Why oh why would these industries, backed by their own cadre of the wealthy and powerful just let other elites spread a hoax which actively hurts their interests if there is absolutely no truth to it?
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>>5381559
yeah I'm starting to think it might actually be "No", all these answers claiming to see something seem to be stretching.
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There's a blue pixel by the right-most red circle, against the green mountain backdrop.
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>>5381821
Where?
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Blue pixel highlighted. I'm guessing that it's background sky that got missed, but hey, whatever.
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>>5381828
Damn, talk about sight

Maybe it is them?
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Eagle Eye Akule, picking out a defect on a distant mountain through snowfall.
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>>5381841
>Enhancing intensifies.

Or we just had to answer yes.
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>>5381413
>No
It doesn't ask 'Is there anyone out there', just if you can see someone - and I can't see someone. There may be many marks and irregularities, but nothing there is identifiable as a Jaxtian apart from Akule.
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>>5381413
>No
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>>5381413
>>No
But maybe they've come and went? There's fresh tracks. Quickly notify someone about that and see what they say.

>>5381828
I wouldn't put it past Bananas to do this, but I think that if he did it'd be Jaxtian blue instead of sky blue.
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>>5381571
Is it off topic if Akule brought it up as an article of belief? Or how every Climate Doomsday Prophecy is always wrong, but always believed?

The more interesting angle of thought is how humans always believed in these doomsday prophecies (often biblical) since ancient times. Does this speak of something innate to the human condition, if doomsday keeps cropping up in every generation? It’s a thought that does deserve exploration, at least.

>>5381577
>There are many powerful groups that DON'T benefit from climate hysteria.
There are many more powerful groups that do benefit from it, and they overpower the fossil fuel lobby. It’s funny how no one questions if the people advocating radical change in the government, the economy, and living standards don’t have an alternate agenda. Green Non-Nuclear Energy just ain’t gonna meet the demand for energy, it’s almost like you’ll need to drastically reduce the population to have a chance at meeting climate goals- huh, almost like Akule. Strange, that.

>>5381828
That’s an autistic amount of dedication anon, have my
>Yes
Is the messenger supposed to be blonde, or blue?
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>>5382014
>Is it off topic if Akule brought it up as an article of belief?
Yes. This is not le epic political debate thread. Piss off.
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>>5382018
Actually, this is the Political Containment Thread. Try and stay on topic anon :^)
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You stay outside for yet another hour as you desperately try to spot the incoming messanger.

Is that mound of snow him? Maybe he collapsed and you didn't see him before?
Are those tire tracks or footprints?
Is that a far off mountain or incoming shape?

You strain your eyes further and further until the sky gets so dark that looking out becomes impossible. That's it- you've missed him. He could be collapsed in a snow field and you would never know.

Just then, Brun comes up from below. He's not wearing a coat- clearly he doesn't intend to be out here long.

”Akule!? You're still up here?”
”I was l-looking for the messenger. Like you asked. But I didn't see anybody...” You can't stop yourself from shivering.
”Oh... they called in. Nobody was coming tonight- the weather was too bad.”
”Wha- Why didn't you tell me!?”
”I mean I was going to! Sorry Akule. It was an accident.”
”So I stood out here for nothing!?”
”I just got distracted with how nice it was without you there!”
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”Argh! Come here so I can kick your ass!”
”Haha- Wait, Akule! Wait, I was just kidding!”
”STOP LAUGHING!”
”Wait! Haha- Wait!”
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When the snow clears and the days get a little warmer- the mountains become passable again. Your first time being so isolated from the elements- never an experience you had in Centralia. You speak with Brun and his father, Zaj, and the leader of the Golden Hand. The last time you spoke to him you were in a torture chamber.

“Brun and I have been speaking about you. With the passes open, there is opportunity for transport between the reservation and the mainland- Northland and Centralia both. Given both the occupiers and Northlandy freedom fighters have captured some of our agents in the past- we may be able to organize a prisoner exchange.”
”I haven't been treated much like a prisoner.”
“Of course, we all like you now Akule.”
“But this is your opportunity to return back to your homeland- back to Centralia.”
”I don't want to go back. I want to stay here.”

Zaj's eyes open wide when he realizes what you said- and you're a little surprised yourself. You answered truthfully though. You don't want to go back. There is nothing for you there. What little vestiges of a family, just your ailing mother, and military life don't appeal to you much any more at all.

”Akule... are you sure? Why not?”

>Write In
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>>5382191
>"Zaj, you have something here that I don't think exists anywhere else. Not in Centralia, certainly not with the Northlanders. Your people are.. right. Not fucked up like everywhere else. I want to be more of a part in this."
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>>5382014
>It’s funny how no one questions if the people advocating radical change in the government, the economy, and living standards don’t have an alternate agenda.
Literally an entire wing of the mainstream, western political-media establishment does this. You are not discovering a hidden truth. Either you are right (about Earth, in real life) and a substantial number of people agree with you, or you're wrong (about Earth, in real life) and a substantial number of people disagree with you. Either way, can you get back to questing here, on Jaxt, where climate change may well be real OR may not, but we haven't found out yet?

>>5382191
>"I hate my people. I hate my culture. I know it's... Wrong. Betrayal, maybe, what you call the Great Evil. But... I don't want to be a Mainlander. I want to be Blonde."

It seems to, ironically, be the truth. Dude went native. He's Last Samurai-ing it. He's going to cosplay like he's Grey Owl as a dictator. He goes out of his way to exclude enough Blondes from his grant miscegenation project to preserve their phenotype, even as he's slicing off green faces. Akule is a weeaboo, and this dark truth is Unspeakable.
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>>5382262
Don't be cringe, he doesn't want to be blonde, he likes their non-poisoned culture. He doesn't believe in their gods or in heroes or in their stuff.
>>5382196
+1
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>>5382187
Leaving your friend out in the cold just to chase some tail? Dick move bro.

>>5382191
>I have nothing left. Please let me stay.
Honesty is the best policy. Maybe Akule can chase some blondie tail and become the OG Ingar.
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>>5382196
+1
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>>5382413
Akule isn't going to go full native, mate. He's eventually going to take over the world.
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>>5382421
…do you even know who Ingar is?
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>>5382438
Ingar was a retard obsessed with some random female to the point he decided to burn everything down
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>>5382191
> In that place, nearly all people are slaves. For the first time in my life, I feel free and alive. Most of all my involvement here has given me purpose.
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>>5382441
You left out the part where he tried to take over the world, which I suspect would’ve happened anyway with or without his weird waifu obsession, given his childhood neuroticism. It’s wasn’t a comment about Akule going native, it was a comment about Akule going balls-to-the-wall neurotic in his takeover of the world.
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>>5382454
I like this answer.
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>>5382456
Bananas confirmed that he would have chilled if we gave him the waifu. He was an crazy retard like their entire generation.
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>>5382461
We should’ve given him his waifu in all honesty, a Blondie Genius Supreme would’ve been epic. Still can’t believe we fucked up that 2nd chance, I honestly thought that hair sample was a key card.
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>>5382463
He was a weirdo who hadnt even talked to her. For all we knew at the time, he could have ended up hating her and getting even more psychotic.
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>>5382411
Akule doesn't believe in their gods, but I think we can assume he comes around to the idea of quasi-religious hero-worship, since he forms a cult of personality. Or maybe it happens against his wishes? We'll see!

>>5382485
Hindsight is 20/20.
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How are you all liking this one so far? I was worried this might ruins Akule's mystique a little bit...
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>>5382864
I like it.
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>>5382869
I like it. It's interesting to see the history of the hegemony.
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>>5382014
A fuck we really are the /pol/ containment thread
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>I grew up fed lies. That if I did what I was supposed to, followed the rules, things would work out. Instead I became slave to a society that trapped us in a cage of cheap amusement so we could keep their wheels turning. When I came here I felt family, real family for the first time. I felt the purpose that comes from fighting for the good of others, not so you can pay off some debts cheated onto you. I found the love born from choice, a bond of dedication and values, not someone chained to the byproduct of a hormonal drive. I've been feeling so many thoughts and desires held back , and for the first time, they feel... Speakable.
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>>5382869
Not gonna lie, it does ruin Akule's mystique. I’m enjoying it, and I reserve the right to change my opinion when all is said and done, but it sort of feels like a better quality Star Wars Prequel Trilogy.
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>>5382869
Yes but no, as in it also makes me wonder if Akule was really as bad as he was made out to be, or if he was just used as a scapegoat to promote unity for the golden hand to become the ones in power
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>>5383026
I don't think the Golden Hand guys actually managed to come out on top. There has never been a Blonde Supreme Leader, and hey are sometimes discriminated against in employment. Large chunks of their ideology, like theism and equality under (theocratic tribal) law, were abandoned and are outright ridiculed, while many of the same systems of social engineering and population-doemstication which Akule's Centralian society practiced are still VERY much in use by the Hegemony.
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>>5382196
+1
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>>5382869
Honestly, I'm getting real Fight Club vibes.

Love it.
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>>5382869
I like it, but some conclusions naturally seem forgone, and sometimes I have trouble seeing the value in a choice. If Akule didn't care to ask about the Blonde concept of evil, would he never learn it? Would that... Matter? Would it change who he is or who he became, what the Hegemony's fundamental nature is, the fate of the Blondes or anyone else?

Other times, votes seem pretty much pointless because... Well, people mostly just vote to do what Akule would do, based on what we know of him or his history, or think we know. It makes me wonder if we could really guide him towards anything else. Obviously he was always going to be an 'Unspeakable' dictator, and a victorious one, but I sometimes get the feeling that this is less a quest and more a story where we only get to tweak little things. It's not the vibe this quest usually gives, which is much more open-ended, and even in Boys & Girls we got to establish key elements of the setting and the individual characters' personalities and desires. Here... What have we really gotten to determine about Akule's values or beliefs?

It would be cool to see the 'man' behind the mystique, but less so if there's no opportunity to shape him or reveal something unexpected about him. I'm enjoying this chapter, but not really the way I usually enjoy Space Monke, or quests in general. more like a cool origin story for a character in traditional media.

(It's a good thing you're good at writing and art, too. And who knows, perhaps the twist or turn is coming!)
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Does anyone else ship Akule and Brun?
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>>5383209
Anons would never go for it.
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>>5382869
It only really makes me wonder how you take how most anons 99% go for kindhearted answers to your prompts but you still make a fierce emotionless space empire
It's becoming very obvious through these sidequests.
I mean, we've mostly been making akule a (mostly) nice guy, but he obviously becomes a genocidal dictator and I really want to know how you manage to consolidate the responses of the people and the story that you want to tell
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>>5382869
It comes off as less fun than past quests and more close to home. Following a nihilistic doomer MC constantly ranting about minorites and immigration and how much he hates the government is just less compelling than 4x space opera.

The flash forwards are an interesting dramatic flair but it just drives home how unlikeable the MC is.

You don't need the MC to be good, think Light Yagami or Dan from Dan Vs or even Cartman from certain South Park episodes. But you want them to be entertaining and compelling. And Akule right now is about as compelling as going to a random board here and reading someone whine about shit.
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>>5383209
>>5383212
I'd go for it.

>>5382869
It's... fine, but I feel like we're watching an extended cutscene more than anything. Would like it better if it felt we were shaping future!Akule in any way, which I feel like there could've been room for in the start since he was shrouded in so much mystery (you wouldn't have to retcon much) but might be too late at this point.
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>>5383209
Not really, but it says a lot when a male honor group/friendship/brotherhood is portrayed that people(even myself) are so heavily trained to look for homosexual subtext to any of it. This long-forced meme of: guys hanging out=gays. Just really noticing it for the first time.
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"I want to be a part of this. You. The Golden Hand, the Blonde people. For the first time, I truly feel free here. Like I have a purpose."

The old man's face softens.

"In that case, then let me be the first to welcome you to our family. You're home now, Akule."

When the snow melts later in the year, Brun and yourself travel along the edge of the blonde reservation towards a port town- the tiny stretch of blonde homeland that does not touch Northland touches instead the western province of Centrailia- or in other words, home of the westlanders.

It's crazy how close such a tropical, nice coastal land is to the inhospitable mountains. You're here for something very important, and you have the feeling the only reason why you're here is because Zaj "accepted" you. You must be trusted closely now to help pick up this... whatever it is.
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The Westlanders are known for two things; their happy go lucky attitudes and their very, very beautiful women. Oh, and their white flowers, they just go nuts for them.

Of course, the Westlanders are so genetically and culturally close to Mainlanders that they aren't even considered a different "race". They are just a culture; Mainlanders are all partially Westlander. The only real holdouts of what was once there exist only in sleepy port towns and among the urban rich- like this arms dealer you are told to meet with.

Of course, technically you are in Centralia now. The heavily policed, technology advanced, surveillance state of your birthright. This isn't the war-torn Northland. Any idiot with a cell phone could snap a picture of Brun and yourself doing something suspicious and the police would be on your ass in minutes. But it's also the only place to acquire top of the line stuff; not the military surplus weapons of the Northlander freedom fighters or Blonde "terrorists".

"Come in, sit, sit."
"...We really need to get going. Where is the package?"
"Ahh, just a slight delay."
"Delay? You said it would be here already."
"It should be here today. That's what I said."
"That is NOT what you said."
"Come on mon', sit, relax a bit. I promise it will be here soon."
"We risked our LIVES to come here and you don't even HAVE it???"
"Akule... calm down... This is our go-to guy. Have some patience."

>Relax
>Punch the arms dealer
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>>5383302
On one hand being hostile to our arms trader is a bad idea, but this does seems to close to an ambush for my taste.
>Relax
Only because punching this one guywould do little if we are indeed in a trap.
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>>5383302
>>Relax
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>>5383302
>Punch the arms dealer
Something's shady about this.
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>>5383302
>Punch the arms dealer
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>>5383302
>Be careful
I think that instead of relaxing, we should keep watching the situation. Punching him wont do if it's normal, but it could very well be a trap
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>>5383350
Yeah, supporting.

Stay tense - but no violence yet
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>>5383302
>Relax

Even if you don't trust this guy, what would punching him achieve? If you actually needed to act against him, be it for threat or torture or to take him out, you'd use your knife.
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>>5383209
>Does anyone else shi-
No.

Don't try to ruin a cool male friendship with your fujoshi garbage.
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>>5383302
>Relax
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>>5383302
>Leave while making an effort to throw off any tails.
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>>5383302
>Relax
Fiiine, only because you said so Brun. I do reserve the right to punch this sucker if this does turn into an ambush.

>>5383238
Less compelling, or just unlikable? I mostly agree with you at the moment, the flash forwards, while amusing, undercut the main narrative and character introspection. Instead of exploring Akule’s character in interesting ways, it sort of just confirms he’s just a Doomer Hitler, which makes anons not want to identify with him, and that’s a problem if we’re playing as the MC.

Despite these misgivings, I still have faith that Bananas has something up his sleeve, he hasn’t failed us on the narrative before. It’s just a slower start than we’re used to.
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>>5383426
It's actually both. It makes me feel like I'm moderating again.
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You decide to relax... but stay alert. You don't like this. It could be an ambush, or a set up.

You pace the room, fidgeting with your knife, while you peak out each and every window. The arms dealer looks a bit nervous.

“Brun, I don't like your new friend here very much. He always looks like he's thinking bad thoughts.”

”It's his first time, he's a little high strung. But he has a point. We don't want any trouble, just give us what is ours, and we'll be going.”

“Still, you could always stay a bit longer. My wife is a great cook. Maybe some freshly squeezed juice and- oh wait, I think I hear the car coming.”

Within a few minutes, you have your package and you leave. Thankfully, your cover was not blown. On the long, quiet truck drive back to the reservation, you find yourself lost in thought.

The Westlanders. Once their own people, now just another hue of Mainlander. They chase the dollar, watch out the windows suspicious for their neighbors, but still put flowers in their hair. Does Brun not see it? Does he not see the blondes will suffer the same fate?
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It's only a matter of time. It all comes down to genetics, and population numbers. The superior nation will always conquer the lesser, if it be through war or economy. Centralian money and Centralian morals will sweep the whole world. It's even worse for the blondes- as their identity is so tied to how they look. Their blonde fur is a dominant trait- meaning that any blonde and blue pairing will result in a blonde child. But that child will hold that recessive trait now and forever- eventually, the entire population will have the recessive Mainlander coloration gene. And with the sheer numbers, eventually, all of the blondes will be blue.

It isn't something you wish for... you don't think. You just know it will happen one day. Eventually, the reservation will be forced one way or another to join the rest of the world. If it be from force or from the blondes themselves seeking a higher quality of life; The cultural and genetic separation will be removed and then they will be wrapped up. Everything unique and special will be paved over by the bulldozer of Capitalism. You're just one of the only ones smart enough to see it.

Perhaps as it happens to the Greenfaces and the Redmanes and the Westlanders- you won't cry about it. But for the blondes, that would feel like a shame.
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”Woah- That's a big fucking gun.”

”It's a sniper rifle. Top of the line. Has some anti-material properties too.” Brun says excitedly. You didn't think he's geek out about this kind of military hardware. He's more of a knife guy.

”Is this... for a war?”
”No- it's for a target. One in particular. You ever heard about Durza Ampa?”
”He's one of the main peacekeepers in Northland. I think our detachment heard a speech from him. About how important our mission is here- to unify and protect Northland. He wears a nice suit. This for him?”
”Yeah. And for you.”
”Wh- Wait! You mean you want me to... kill Durza?”

Brun smiles.

”You have military training with weapons like these- things that our people haven't. I had my misgivings, but once you said you wanted to stay... I knew you could be trusted with a mission like this. Do you think you could do it? Assassinate that man?”
”I mean... I was trained to kill.”
”But can you actually do it?”

>Yes
>No
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>>5384004
>Yes
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>>5384004
>Yes
Didn't we have our whole speech about how we didn't give a fuck about our nation and that the whole war was obviously just about getting oil? Yeah, i don't think he'll feel bad about killing that man.

Also, i wonder if akule is the reason the blondes haven't become a part of the mainlander pool.
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>>5384004
>Yes

>>5384029
>Also, i wonder if akule is the reason the blondes haven't become a part of the mainlander pool.
I thought this was explicitly obvious.
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>>5384039
>I thought this was explicitly obvious.
We know he's the reason they didn't get genocided, but according to his thoughts, they're also inevitably going to be extinct because mainlanders are stronger - which hasn't happened despite the hegemony itself being like, thousands of years old if i remember correctly.

I mean, is there some specific breeding limit that ensurse blondes will continue existing?
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>>5384042
In the present day all relationships are controlled by AI, so there's probably something out there encouraging Blonde/Blonde matchups, yeah.
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>>5384043
That's the moddern day, but the hegemony has been around for a very long time, and blondes aren't even privileged during the modern days, so what i'm curious about is what exactly is their 'status' as a group, and how they survived through the huge span of time between Akule and Vantix Garastra
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>>5384004
>Yes
If needs must
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>>5384004
>Yes
But I don’t want to.
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>>5384004
>No
What a twist!
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>>5384105
Not really? They're terrorists. I mean, we ransacked a bank not long ago.
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>>5384108
I mean Akule not being preparex to murder someone despite his reputation.
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>>5384115
That doesn't really make sense. Akule has already shown a willingness to do so, and he's said and thought so himself that he knew his whole nation was corrupt and worthless.
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>>5384003
I don't think that's how genetics work
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>>5384124
>No
I think Akule is more interesting as a character if he has this feelings but doesn't yet have it in him to kill someone with his own hands. I think it makes more a more dynamic narrative seeing how he struggles with his contrasting feelings as opposed to him speed running into the rebel conquerer.

(I think even the flash forwards notably don't show him doing the deed himself. I think that and this vote together is giving us to option to shape his character like we wanted )
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>>5384004
>Yes
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>>5384141
>I think Akule is more interesting as a character if he has this feelings but doesn't yet have it in him to kill someone with his own hands.
That doesn't seem to be really following his character we've seen so far, however.
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>>5384124
Many people hate their weak societies and government but also aren't really happy to take a life in cold blood.

>>5384149
What's even the point of the prompt, then? Obviously it's allowed, and within the scope of Akule's character in this moment, or else we wouldn't even be allowed to vote.

We didn't have a vote on if Akule liked Redmanes or The Greenfaced, or his society's socio-economic model, or race-mixing. QM fiat told us that, no, he sure doesn't. But we DO get to choose if he's comfortable being an assassin. Therefore, either answer can presumably make sense, and carries meaning.
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>>5384160
Eh...you can choose to say no, sure, but it doesn't seem to really fit what we've seen so far.
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>>5384149
I think it does. He gives to me the classic teenage "I have it all figured out", syndrome. I can for sure see him as someone who talks a big game but still is too green to kill a person himself
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>>5384004
>Yes

The question isn't whether Akule can do it, but whether he thinks he can do it. Akule was willing to go all out in a knife fight, trusting in the prowess of the Blonde. He wants change, but previously felt too weak to cause it. I think that Akule trusting in the Blondes to help him physically do the task, while not doubting his own mental ability to pull the trigger, is a reasonable way forward. But will Akule be captured and experience prison life in yet another society?
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Also, so maybe Akule isn't a skilled geneticist. No big deal. He wouldn't be the only Supreme in that category. Maybe his opinions are based on observation of multi-factor traits rather than simple a simple recessive.
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>>5384228
Checks out. If he was a skilled geneticist, he wouldn't be a disposable army grunt.
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>>5384004
>Yes. Easy.
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>>5384004
>Yes, I could do it. I don't want to, but I can.
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>>5384378
Yikes. Westlandian comfort women, eh?
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>>5384488
Looks like they're being shipped off to be dumped into the sea, innit?
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>>5384488
Beautiful women. Think Akule ever got a Westlandian waifu, or did he go full native instead?

>>5384503
The ‘Akule made promises to his men’ and the flowers in the hair tell a different story.
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How Mr. Monoblade peelz fruit? With teef like a savage? Or is he just a dirty dirty monkey?
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>>5384716
He only drinks the Jaxtian equivalent of Capri Sun.
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Durza Ampa. The perfect representation of everything wrong with the world today.

Extremely rich from a well connected family. Government official placed by nepotism into a soft position where nothing is expected of him- some “Peacekeeping Official” for Northland. His salary from that position is a good six to eight times the national average; which doesn't even come close to his real total net worth. All stolen from the tax payer, no doubt.

He's an advocate for many causes. Swears on the value of peace and Centralia's moral supremacy despite their colonialism. Champion of Homosexual rights- which he also has a lot of money in. You hate his weak chin and ugly stump of a tail but you will admit, he cleans up nice in a suit. This one you'll do you'll do with pleasure.
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It isn't too hard. When you were in the army, you shot at a lot of people. You never knew if you killed them or not. They were just like little black dots on the side of a hill. This time is the same. You don't need to see inside of the limo- the rifle does the rest.

From then, you have to go quick. Back to the reservation. This isn't the same as blinding some rapist immigrant; this is serious shit. The political tensions will get worse. The Centralia government will likely suspect the Northlanders, up until the Golden Hand takes credit for it. This is an assassination. It may not be the straw that breaks the camel's back, but you know that the blonde's way of life won't last forever, and this will be one of the reasons why.

Of course, you aren't taking responsibility for that directly. If you didn't agree to this, then another blonde would have; maybe Brun. The end result would end up the same. You're just along for the ride.
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In the following days, news coverage of the shooting is a huge deal, but quickly swept aside and forgotten as the next big event draws attention away from politics to Northland to another issue; Centrailia's media circus ensures that the things that get the spotlight are in the best interest of the ruling class.

As for you, your return to the reservation isn't met with heroic applause like your blinding of the rapist or stealing money for the poor. This time, it's much more subdued. Perhaps the weapons were too advanced to appeal to the traditionalists, or maybe it was too bloodthirsty and means-focused to really rile up the blonde warrior spirit. Until you watch the broadcast yourself.

“The Northland Peacekeeper and advocate for change, Durza Ampa, and his fiance, were killed while driving in a motorcade in a shocking attack of political violence...”

”...You don't seem very shook up by this.”
”Hmm? Brun, you're the one who gave me the weapon. If it can pierce bulletproof glass it can pierce a skull. Are you seriously blaming me?”
”No- I didn't say that. It's just not right. I didn't want any bystanders to get hurt.”
”Causalities are inevitable. Who knows, we'll probably find out she was pregnant next...”
”Is this a joke to you? Is that how you really feel?”

>Of course not. I feel awful.
>The ends justify the means.
>No, I enjoyed it.
>I don't feel anything.
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>>5384919
>Of course not. I feel awful.
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>>5384919
>I don't feel anything.
Akule can't go five fucking sentences without going "oh everything is horrible, everyone's gonna be extinct, everything will get worse, everything is inevitable"

At least he'll become all genocidal and actually give a fuck later.
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>>5384919
>"I don't feel anything."
Honesty is the best policy and Brun's sharp enough to see through any lies.
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>>5384919
>Of course not. I feel awful.
I think it’d be more interesting for Akule to have regrets than the traditional ‘killing bystanders are necessary/excites me/I don’t give a shit’. Like, he still is just a teenager, he should have regrets about killing innocents.
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>>5384929
Plus that whole ‘innately cares for life’ that his bloodline is known for (though obviously he’ll pitch for the other team during his ‘Unspeakable’ years).
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>>5384919
>I don't feel anything.
Seems to be the case nine times out of ten, with the way he's written between votes...

I cede to the will of the many.
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>>5384919
>I don't feel anything.

She enabled his cruelty in the same way a factory worker making guns enables conflict
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>>5384919
>I don't feel anything

Her death doesn't feel different than any of the other horrors seen on the television. It's not like Akule even saw her through a scope. No stimulus to turn on his empathy.
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>>5384919
>I don't feel anything.
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>>5384919
>She was a slut, she deserved it
>Just look at her clothing, it covers everything except her tits
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Are we playing as Monke Supreme Gentleman?
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>>5384919
>Of course not. I feel awful.
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>>5384919
>I don't feel anything.
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>>5384919
>I don't feel anything.
She was likely a gold digger, marrying that corporate trash.
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>>5385022
Also this. She was as big a rotten piece of shit as our original target.
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>>5384919
>Of course not. I feel awful.
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>>5384919
>"I don't feel anything. Even though there is this voice inside that tells me I should feel awful, I didn't."
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>>5384925
>I don't feel anything.
She was likely the relative of some other aristocrat that got engaged to Ampa to keep him on track.
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>>5384919
>Of course not. I feel awful.
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>>5384919
>I don't feel anything.
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>>5385248
+1
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”To tell you the truth, Brun, I don't feel anything. Maybe deep down there is a feeling of sympathy, but no regret or remorse.”
”And this is how you Mainlanders do war? Anyone to feed your bloodlust?”
”Hah, far from it- I wish we did! We treat our prisoners of war and the civilians of an enemy people better then our own citizens. I never said I enjoyed it. She was an enemy too, though her role was different, they were both guilty of the same.”
”...I can't believe this. Someone like you and Father will still... grr..”

That was strangely accusatory. Brun isn't usually like this; his normal joking self got so serious all the sudden. You find it hard to believe he'd defend a random female like this- you didn't think he thought much of any woman, much less some high value floozy. Your closest friend among the blondes won't even speak to you- though none of the others seem especially offended by your accidental killing. What gives?

On a following day, you are walking through the village when you are suddenly hailed by Zaj again.

“Akule! Come here- I need your help”
”Ahh, what is it, Sir?”
“Well, this is the season to work with clay before it gets too hot and it all dries up. Would you like to make pottery with me?”
”Oh- ok, sure!”

This was unexpected. It feels nice to be included, yes, but having an artistic task like this really gets you going. What a nice surprise. The ever-paternal Zaj tells you how to set up the pottery shop, preparing the spinning wheels, cutting and measuring clay. Soon enough, you are arms deep in your work.
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“So, Akule, tell me. What was your father's trade?”
”I never knew my Father.”
“That is a shame. I hear that is common among Mainlanders.”
”Divorce is very common, yes. I asked my mother about it, but she never told me why she kept me instead of, you know, aborting me or whatever if he wouldn't stick around.”
“...This is too dark a conversation. What trade do you know?”
”I am a solider.”
“Warrior, yes. But that is not a trade. Every man should know a trade.”
”People can get paid a lot of money working in the army at the higher ranks...”
“Ahh- but that is the problem. One who makes war his sole profession has no need for peace, where as one who only learns peace will not be prepared for war. A man must have both.”
”I understand. I guess it shouldn't be about the money....”
“What do men your age do? I hear of advanced computer technology. Do your friends build them?”
”Oh no. They are built by factories, mostly. So is pretty much everything.”
“No carpenters? No knife makers? Surely the machines must be watched by someone.”
”Oh they are, but that doesn't take many. Your culture doesn't have that advancement. You make things by hand, we use machines. One man with a machine can make as many as a hundred or a thousand by hand; there is industry, but no room for people.”
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“...Then how do men make their way in the world? Surely they must do something to survive? To make money?”
”Well, that's just it. There are always things to be done and work to do, but every year there is more people and less jobs. It becomes easier and easier for one man to do more work, so there are less men working. The pressure has already gone far past the tipping point- every year, labor becomes less valuable, and people become more expendable.”
“I do not understand your culture. Your people are obsessed with money, but yet you claim they cannot find any trades to make it. You have an incredible economy, that all say is the richest in the world, and yet people are very poor. How can a man attract a woman without a stable trade? How can the secrets of the trade be passed from generation to generation?”
”Well, that's just the thing. They don't. It's all a matter of economics. Work is only done by people that is too expensive or complex for machines to do yet. Even the invention of the computer and the internet destroyed millions of people's livelihoods and way to exist. There are still some valuable jobs out there- but the competition just gets worse and worse every year. There is always someone more qualified willing to work more hours for less pay then out; often an immigrant, and then you are out of your job. That's it. People only survive on the skin of their teeth and by subsidized handouts from the government.”
“You seem to know much about this. What will solve this problem?”
”The only “solution” is massively population decline. Violent, or otherwise.”
“...Akule, your pot is slipping off the wheel. Focus on your work when you speak.”
”Ack- Sorry.”

Zuj speaks less as you seem to get the hang of following the motions of his hands. Your fingers are stained with the quick- but you seem to be getting it. How do you make your first pot?

>Careful attention
>Frantic energy
>Stern Technique
>Artistic Inspiration
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>>5386449
>Artistic Inspiration
I like to think this is the moment Akule can do "something" so to speak. Something done by him that's inconsequential but pleasant.
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>Artistic Inspiration
Yeah sure, let's have him do *something* that isn't just doomer grumbling.
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>>5386449
>Frantic energy
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>>5386449
>Artistic Inspiration
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>>5386449
>>Artistic Inspiration
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>>5386449
That’s not how economics work Akule.
>Artistic Inspiration
Just make something beautiful instead.
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>>5386449
>Frantic energy

Cue the single manly tear.
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>>5386449
>Artistic Inspiration
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>>5386449
>Artistic Inspiration
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>>5386445
>you didn't think he thought much of any woman
I don't think that Akule is but is Brun unironically gay?
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>>5386659
He wouldn’t leave us out in the cold to chase some tail if he was gay for us.
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>>5386659
He's muslim, stoopid

They literally called their war "jihad"
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>>5386672
Bacha bazi, lad.
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>>5386659
How can you be ironically gay?
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>>5386507
>>5386668
Who says that was woman tail?
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>>5386710
>this obviously middle eastern-inspired character is sexist
>that means my heckin fujo fantasy is canon
stop it
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>>5386449
>Artistic Inspiration
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>>5386710
Still a dick move, and while I would tolerate it as a friend, if he was a woman I would discount them as a romantic partner. Seriously, fuck that shit.

>>5386729
Never said that shit was cannon, our bromance shouldn’t turn into a romance.
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>>5386449
>Artistic Inspiration
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>>5386729
We'll see.

Doubt they'll be gay, with support-for-homosexual-causes being one the sins levied at Ampa's feet
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How is population decline meant to solve any of the problems Akule is talking about?
Like, if society is advanced enough (even more than we are), I could see why mass unemployment would become an issue (although that implies either a very quickly changing job market, or amazing technological advancement that we haven’t seen any sign of), but how in the world is a lack of aggregate demand in the labour market meant to be solved by killing people?

Maybe Akule is just bad at economics as well as genetics.
>>5386449
>Artistic Inspiration
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>>5387059
"Demand" literally doesn't matter here. What he's talking about is the fact that there are just too many people to have an proper job market. It's a race to the bottom of who can work the most for the least amount of pay.

If a 1000 jobs make enough stuff for 10.000 people, then 9.000 out of those people will be unemployed.
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>>5387081
I mean, that really depend son if there are other products or services those 9000 people can provide which other people want.
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>>5387092
That's the thing, Akule is saying that there aren't. A single person is able to produce for way, way more. Outside of useless busywork, there are just too many people for not enough jobs.

And this issue doesn't get solved for thousands of years. Only with the Hegemony's interstellad expansion is there finally an abundance of demand for labour.
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>>5387094
That depends. Some of the 'jobs' we see people doing in the 'present' of the Hegemony probably count as busywork, but are also demonstrably not useless.

Don't take Akule's monologues as objective reality. They're just, like, his opinion, maaan.

(And he is by his own admission not very educated or skilled)
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>>5387094
…….?
Nowadays, 1000 jobs can sustain 10000 people. QoL wouldn’t be at modern standards, but with the right skills, land and capital it would be Very Possible. We have a mild unemployment issue, however, not some kind of horrible society poisoning one like Akule is insinuating. This isn’t just because a third-half of those peoples are dependants (children, students, elderly, disabled), but because the rest of those people can meet our wants as well with jobs like research and development, retail, entertainment, commercial goods, hospitality, the primary industries that feed those, etc.

What you’re suggesting would be like if the Industrial Revolution meant that we permanently had unemployment rates in the 50-60% after the aftershocks of so many jobs being made outdated settled down due to the enormous productivity increases, which is evidently not the case.

Even if it was, how in the world would killing half the population possibly solve anything? You’d still have the exact same problem, just with less people.

If the issue is that the government is implementing policies that prevent those spare few thousands from meeting people’s wants or raising QoL (or at least not helping it along with things like skill retraining), then that’s a societal issue, not an economic inevitability that can only be solved by genocide.
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>>5387099
The Hegemony is extremely advanced, however. Way more advanced than their time. We know there is actual demand for labour.
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>>5387059
>How is population decline meant to solve any of the problems Akule is talking about?
It isn’t. That isn’t how economics work. It’s like saying the invention of the tractor created massive unemployment in the agriculture sector, it’s a retarded point on it’s face. What actually happens is that when you make an industry more efficient, it frees up more labor to do other, more economically productive shit that improves a society’s standard of living. Killing a lot of people will just result in a lower standards of living, since there isn’t enough labor to produce better standards.

>>5387081
That can simply be solved with immigration control, but even then, the other 9,000 will be employed in other industries, if the market was allowed to function as it should.

>>5387094
Or the opposite is true, and Akule kneecaps the Hegemony from progress for thousands of years.

>>5387099
That VR busywork is useless, since VR serves no economic or scientific function, and is an active impediment to productive work. If the government didn’t subsidize his lifestyle, VR Coomer would have to actually get a productive job to subsist in his shitty cubical.
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>>5387105
That's just stupid. It's easy to say "It works in our society if you add children and elderly and etc", but it's retarded to think that society can survive solely on useless service jobs that can just as easily be automated, and might very well have within Centralia. Especially primary industries. What, is everyone gonna work as Monkeymart or entertainment?

I hate it when people say automation doesn't result in unemployment because "muh industrial revolution". The industrial revolution was literally based on manual labour. Machines had to be manned by humans - nowadays, the only job you need is repairing the machines, and you don't need that many people doing it.

Population control, in theory, would mean less people competing for jobs. It's literally true - peasants got WAY better life quality after the black plague because the cost of labour actually mattered. When your employer can easily replace you with someone who'll work for less, your labour has no value.
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>>5387107
>the other 9,000 will be employed in other industries, if the market was allowed to function as it should.
Do you even read what you are saying? THERE ARE NO JOBS, THEY ARE *ALL* AUTOMATED. Are you living in fucking 1950? Do you not realize what AUTOMATION means? No, you can't just 'go get a job in another industry', the other industry is ALSO automated and there are fifty thousand fucking workers competing for the single job opening you might be able to get.
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>>5387107
>That VR busywork is useless, since VR serves no economic or scientific function
I think that's wrong. They seem to be using it to fine-tune the AI to increase to sophistication of their social engineering.
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>>5387110
Perfect retrainability and an ever-desirous market which can manufacture more work ad infinitum seems like a fantasy to me, too, but this notion that if we get TOO efficient then everyone will just be locked out of employment also seems unlikely. Everyone CAN indeed work at Monkeymart, in entertainment, in service, hospitality, and caregiving rolls, producing novelty hadicrafts... Or at least enough people to keep the place from feeling as dystopian as all this. A future full of miserable unemployed people is a product of bad governance and an out-of-control market, not economic inevitability.
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>>5387127
You are beyond delirious if you think a society full of wageslaves working at meaningless useless fake jobs is anything but an dystopia. Like akule says, basically everyone is just dependant on government aid.
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>>5387107
In fairness, the VR busywork does have a purpose- they use it to idiot grade their inventions. He gets paid by commission.
50% of it is definitely just to keep him out of trouble though.

>>5387108
A. Jaxtians clearly have dependents too, but that’s beside the point.
B. Our machines still have to be manned and maintained by people. We haven’t yet created a machine that can run indefinitely without human supervision and maintenance. The Industrial Revolution is The Example because it is the obvious example of this scenario- an early capitalist society that saw a sudden enormous productivity increase. Automation leaves people permanently out of work not because of the inherent nature of it, but because it leads to job skills- the jobs being replaced by machines- no longer being relevant. Therefore, if a society sees a fast enough pace of automation they may always have an automation issue as skills are made irrelevant and new skills put in demand faster than the workforce can adapt. It is not because we have made machines that can outright replace humanity as a whole.
C. Post Black Plague peasants got better quality of life because their demand for labour was tied directly to the land they worked, not other people. Feudalism isn’t capitalism. If we had our labour demand tied to something that wasn’t other people’s wants, genocide would ‘work’, but that’s not applicable here.

D.The Hegemony is a direct counter example for why killing people isn’t The Solution. The Hegemony seems to be able to find work for nearly everyone, despite being enormously advanced, having AI that can outright outthink people, and a population in the hundreds of billions. Therefore, genocide is not the only solution even if it is one, which I highly doubt because genocide does not address the factors in the first place that lead to 10% being able to leave the other 90% unemployed.

(Mind, transitioning away from the free market to a hyper efficient state run economy and so decoupling labour demand from people’s wants to the state’s wants is a solution, but probably not one we can do in real life. More government action would make more work though…. Hm.).

>>5387110
This is, in the most literal sense, a skill retraining issue (ie. these people have the terrible luck to have skills for a job that now no longer exists), not the inevitability of robots being able to do things.

Mind, once IRL we get around to creating AI that’s as smart as people, even if only in certain capacities, *then* we’ll start seeing some really bad news.
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>>5387132
>Our machines still have to be manned and maintained by people.
OUR machines. This is a monkey society. And while we don't have fully automatic machines, we need way less worker than even two decades ago.
>but that’s not applicable here.
It actually is. With a reduced population, there would be a lesser pool for labour and higher demand, meaning there would be higher quality of life for workers.
>The Hegemony is a direct counter example for why killing people isn’t The Solution. The Hegemony seems to be able to find work for nearly everyone,
EXCEPT, The Hegemony is an interstellar society with basically limitless resources. There is ALWAYS room for expansion. We'll ALWAYS need more labour because we're expanding, not stagnating.
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>>5387129
A small amount of people maintaining and operating the machines that perform our primary and secondary industries while the rest of us work administration, retail, entertainment, hospitality, service, education etc etc. sounds pretty nice, actually, as long as the government actually does something with all those resources and doesn’t cock it up for ‘jobs and growth’.

Maybe we can finally have a four day workweek.

Even if none of the above will ever come to pass, though, I still don’t see how genocide helps anything until we inherently decouple labour demand from our actual demand (be it people or state).
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>>5387108
I’m sorry, do you want to handplow a field and live off subsistence farming? Because eliminating the heavy burden of manual labor does improve living standards, because that labor focused on substance is now freed up to do more productive shit. Just because the plague created a greater demand of labor after the fact doesn’t mean that the plague was a societal good that should be artificially recreated, it’s retarded on it’s face.

>>5387110
If automation killed employment, humanity would logically be 99% unemployed today. Just because you improve productivity doesn’t mean everyone is forever going to be outta the job. The introduction of the Cotten Picker didn’t lower the demand for labor, it fucking increased it.

>>5387123
No, the Hegemony is using it as a societal opioid to keep the useless, unproductive monkes from causing trouble. It’s a personal Bread and Circus, now available to the shitty cell you call home.
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>>5387137
>Sounds nice
Literal wagelave mindset. I'm certain the people working in Amazon warehouses and Walmarts just LOVE it there.
>>5387138
>I’m sorry, do you want to handplow a field and live off subsistence farming?
Would you rather spend all day stacking boxes and peeing in a bottle?
>The introduction of the Cotten Picker didn’t lower the demand for labor, it fucking increased it.
Again with the stupid industrial revolution comparisons. Let me put it in a simple way: Modern Automation DECREASES jobs. There are no more new employment opportunities created by assembly lines.
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>>5387143
Modern Automation decreases inefficient jobs, and the labor is transitioned into more economically productive pursuits. If the total amount of jobs decreased with a rising population, 90% of the world would be unemployed by now. Your logic is flat out wrong, and I ain’t gonna continue the debating this with an economic illiterate.
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>>5387136
>>5387143
> With a reduced population, there would be a lesser pool for labour and higher demand, meaning there would be higher quality of life for workers.
…..In a capitalistic society like Centralia, the proportional decrease of labour supply and demand would be the same, unless you specifically target either the working population or dependents.
How in the world does demand go up? Who’s buying, the dead people?

And the Hegemony can always find work because
A. They are purposefully not replacing their labourers with machines with AI. Which they could. At any point, once we master Three-Mind.
B. They are always, as a government, doing things.

The ability to do B is not unique to a stellar empire. Centralia near certainly has a slew of projects they could do that could have tangible effect, like cleaning up the ocean or trying to make medicine cheaper, that would create work. They just don’t, because, like in real life, they won’t or can’t afford it. The Hegemony being able to do B is their nature as a governing body, not some economic miracle.

Professing that everyone doing tertiary and quaternary industries would be nice has no relation to Amazon abusing worker’s rights, and it is better to work for a wage than work to not starve to death.

And no, no automation ever in the world ever created jobs, they increase productivity and the nature of the economic system we created, flawed as it may be, does the rest. Look at the unemployment statistics of IRL nations- most of them, from Egypt to Australia to China to America to India, have unemployment rates of 2-8%. There is no correlation between more automated societies and higher unemployment.

But finally, your first point is true in that we don’t know how Jaxtian machines or society works, although I highly highly doubt that they’ve made machines that can do as you say, and so after you’ve had your parting shot I think we should just drop it. Irregardless of automation in the real world, Akule believes automation is killing jobs in his fictional world and the only way to solve this is, somehow, genocide (????), and he may be right or wrong, and real life examples and trends have minimal bearing on this.
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>>5387178
I love your articulation anon, I can only aspire to your level of exposition.

I would ask if you think living standards would increase with the collective abolition of minimum wage, but I figure it’s irrelevant atm. You think Akule will do a conventionally nice pot, or would it be something akin to being inspired by acid?
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If Centralia has an overabundance of population, they can always use more rifle-monkeys. If nuclear ballistic missiles are the issue, then start building mobile flak or something and have the grunts man that.

When Centralia gets to the points that they are a one world government and can't expand or expend their excess productivity in war, then the answer becomes Zardoz, not intentional population reduction. Let the peasants compete against each other while looking for a way to expand society's reach to exploit ever more resources and increase carrying capacity. Bottlenecks may arise, and the society will need to find ways around or through them to continue to develop.
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Wierd I just thought about how many human mmorpgs have a lot in common with these fake job vr things that future monkes do.

Whats the phrase...a false sense of productivity and accomplishment.
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>>5387235
Games are just real life without stakes
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>>5387212
I think Akule would make a nice and normal pot.
This is his first pot.
Would be weird if he made something simultaneously functional and insane.
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>>5386449
Question regarding the main quest (not the sidequest): what does the mass media / pop culture of the hegemony (films, music, etc) look like?
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>>5387336
Our main exposure to mass media was the revelation that the organisation that makes all the digital media- and it is only one organisation, or at least one makes the overwhelming majority- is owned by the state.
Also, it’s the same organisation that gives out awards for good films and presumably similar texts.

Take that how you will.
The Jaxtians seems fine with it, though.
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>>5387178
>How in the world does demand go up? Who’s buying, the dead people?
Think of it like this: while demand will go down, there's still going to be a lot of dependants and workers. In general, there's still going to be a similar number of jobs, but the working pool will be far smaller. Basically, there's too many people competing for the same jobs.
>The ability to do B is not unique to a stellar empire.
In our situation, it is. The Hegemony is able to always do things because, as an interstellar empire, they have basically limitless resources. Even if they were a capitalistic society that wasn't able to just print more money whanever they needed to, they'd still have limitless potential for projects.
>Professing that everyone doing tertiary and quaternary industries would be nice has no relation to Amazon abusing worker’s rights,
Yes, it does. The idea that it would be nice for everyone to work in meaningless, horrible service wage jobs is beyond retarded. It has never been nice, and it never *will* be nice, especially not in an capitalistic society.
>There is no correlation between more automated societies and higher unemployment.
Are you retarded? The Industrial Revolution *created* jobs because they had a different kind of automation. Sure, there were no more stagecoach artisans, but there were now a kajillion assembly line jobs at the car factory. Nowadays, the assembly line works by itself, and you only need a few workers to make sure it keeps going. The amount of jobs decreased.

And you're just straight up wrong if you think unemployment hasn't been increasing. OUR society, however, isn't that heavily automated.
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>>5387336
From what we've seen, the main 'entertainment' of the hegemony seems to come from virtual reality. One example we got, for example, were virtual interactable movies generated by artifical intelligence. So you could, for example, watch a movie, pause it, ask the characters what the fuck was going on, and tell them to do something different, and they'd do it at real time.

There also seems to be stuff like virtual reality waifus, for the people the state is actively suppressing.
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>>5387178
>being this willfully ignorant
I don't even know what this is called. Blinded by optimiism?

What is happening in this quest's timeline is literally what is happening in real life. There is no reason for a corporation or a company to keep adding more and more of these "new jobs" when they automate everything they need. Unemployment rates are never accurate and don't take into account people who work shitty part time jobs to just barely survive and those who no longer look for work- like people with useless collage degrees of which there are millions among people in OUR generation. THere were no fucking NEETs 50-100 years ago.

Even if we accept that these new jobs just appear magically it still doesn't change the fact that the labor market is so inflated that workers are utterly replaceable and pay is so terrible. The gap between rich and poor continues to grow bigger and bigger- even in the real world these minimum wage people have their lives subsidized from the government- free food, hosing, education, etc. The money and profit generated from this automation is NOT going to you and me and the average worker but upwards towards the ownership class. What happens when the ownership class no longer want to keep paying taxes and support the existence of the peons? It's pretty fucking obvious.
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>>5387399
Anon, that’s like saying Pol Pot improved QoL by murdering a quarter of his people. Your just flat out wrong about all of your points.

>>5387412
>What is happening in this quest's timeline is literally what is happening in real life.
Lol, what? Where’s the massive intentionally subversion of the nation by the elites? The US occupation of Canada, or the billion people living therein? The woke bullshit? Intergenerational debt and the Native American Taliban? Akule may be dealing with with some similar problems, but what’s happening in-quest isn’t happening irl.

Second, just because you’re experiencing shitty minimum wage jobs because of your useless degree doesn’t mean that you can’t find meaningful employment. Go into a trade school or a union training program, they actually get good pay. Stop being a doomer and blaming automation or the rich for your woes, Jesus.
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>>5387452
>Anon, that’s like saying Pol Pot improved QoL by murdering a quarter of his people.
Pol Pot ruined everything by decimating his population. There's a difference between retarddely genociding anyone who wears a glass and population control to avoid having too many cooks and too few kitchens.
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>>5387412
The ownership class barely pays taxes as is. You don't need to do a great reset to take control of the world when you ALREADY control the world.
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>>5387452
The Rich have been responsible for like 70 percent of the bad things on the planet since the concept of the rich even existed.
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>>5387460
>Implying it'll ever be enough until everyone is an 80-IQ Wageslave working an 12 hour workday and living in a pod and subsisting solely on government "aid"
And even then, they'll still seek *more*, because that's just what greed is.
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>>5387452
In fairness, unemployment is a problem that will always haunt us and always will be fought- but declining wage growth, social stratification, and weakening Unions and worker rights are also real problems that automation lends them self too. It’s not doom worthy, but it’s not as easy as ‘just go job’.

Worst thing is, these problems aren’t inevitable, the government has addressed them before and hopefully will do more in the future. We just have some real pricks up in Paliament who need a literal fire lit under them before they take a few risks.
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>>5387493
I think the opposite is true mate- it’s the government that causes these social problems, and that society would heal if government stoped trying to solve these problems though expanding state power.
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>>5387462
Then maybe enmity should be directed to them instead of reeing about Black and queer people.
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>>5387516
Without threat of state consequences, there is no reason why the powerful won't exploit the less powerful as hard as they can.

It if weren't for fear of legal trouble why wouldn't Walmart have five year olds in sweatshops in the US.

You don't think Dole would use full of Kunte Kinte plantations in the US if it was legal? They would save millions on salaries.

A company is an amoral construct by definition. There needs to be a carrot or stick to get them to act ethically otherwise they will do anything they can for profit.
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>>5387412
Then we get class warfare. One side will win the class war, and it’s not the smaller side
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>>5387412
No bro, we need to keep importing billions of illiterate third worlders to do all these jobs automation will create. The Diversity Commissar and Handicapper General said so.
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>>5387569
What about the abuse of state power, like literal genocide and slave death camps filled with the undesirables? If we’re going full hyperbolic, the State can do more damage than any shitty corporation by the very nature of its unparalleled power, and is more unaccountable by that simple fact. The powerful collate in the State to exploit the rest of society, like all political elite throughout history end up doing. Decentralize the power into local governments, if you want to solve social issues, don’t centralize it into an unaccountable authoritarian state like the Hegemony.

>>5387616
Kek
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Jesus Christ, I'll see you all when we're back to the main quest. This sidequest and Akule's doomer monologues are bringing out the worst in anons.
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wait, you guys are genociding people to lower unemployment rates?
I thought it was just as a joke you know haha what if we killed all of the people we didn't like and then founded a eugenics based dictatorship on the ashes for the lolz
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>>5387633
Just ignore the spazzing, I’m sure the autism will calm down when the next update comes around.

>>5387638
No, Akule is. And yes, it’s as dumb as it sounds.
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>>5387623
How exactly is a local government less likely to be abusive.

At least in the US local governments are often the most corrupt. With many state senators running unopposed and companies writing laws for them verbatim. Especially with algorithmic gerrymandering several local governments are democracies in name only.

The reason why governments are on average more ethical than companies is that governments tend to be more answerable to the people via democracy. That democracy is often compromised by outside factors but a governments base loyalty is to the people a companies base loyalty is to profit.

It's like how a feral dog and a non feral dog can both maul you but the feral dog is gonna attack you by default, the non feral dog needs to be trained to attack you or provoked by hunger or the like.
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>>5387605
In general class warfare tends to favor the wealthy only when the people with guns and/or swords listen to them. There are quite a few populist uprisings across history that were successful in some manner.
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>>5387633
The first side quest had anons going on and on about ethics and cultural biases, this side quest's main 'tism-debate seems to be about economics and labor value. With that in mind, I bet that the next quest will be about a psychic and the anons will sperg about religion.
>>5387693
Somewhat but nor really, every "class warfare" since the dawn of feudalism had the merchant class come out on top, even the October Revolution was against an authoritarian, rural state, not against the merchant class.
The populist uprisings that worked were the ones thag either didn't happen in a society with a strong mercantile class, or were just a game of musical chair between the wealthy "aristocrats". Ex: the American Revolution.
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Giving this feedback because I respect BQM as a questmaster. This is the least fun I have had playing in or reading any installment of Monke Quest.

I think the Star Wars prequel comparison works here. Not because the writing is bad, but because it shows the origins of a masked brutal dictator character but what we get is a whiny little shit that is hard to like.
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>>5387736
Looking at stuff like the Arab spring and various grass roots leftist uprisings in the third world my working hypothesis is that it is relatively doable for the populace to overthrow a regime but pretty hard to keep a new one from forming in its place.
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>>5387633
>>5387754
I bet you both think the boys and girls sidequest was the best thread, too.
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>>5387766
My personal favorite was I think Four, where we had the fight against the Worm and the introspection on the nature of nihilism from the supreme and the cow people

I also liked Boys and Girls a lot.
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>>5387778
If you have bad enough taste to dislike akule's story, you probably have bad enough taste to like boys and girls, is all.
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>>5387766
3 or 4.
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>>5387754
Imagine if he was a balls to the wall good guy, but then pulled a Joker. It’d be an entertaining arc at least.

>>5387766
1’s underrated, and the Baal Wars arc was completely lit. 4 was also completely bonkers in terms of action, thought provoking, and consequences. I sort of wished that we simply conquered the fishmen outright, I want to explore them like we did the Ventuckers.
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I just wish people would stop dooming IRL.
World sucks. World always sucked; world sucked less than it did two decades ago, and there’s only a small chance of it sucking more two decades in the future.
World’s not going to end on us; if someone is saying what Akule is IRL and their solution is *genocide*, they are, at minimum, wildly overreacting.
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>>5387836
You mean retarded. The economic argument for genocide makes no sense, Akule was better off using Climate Change as the reason for massive depopulation.
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When you were a child, you never much imagined yourself as a soldier. You always imagined yourself as something of an artist. There is something pure about that. Bringing imagination to life and making your living on it; a skill that comes from the heart. Something a machine could never do. Well, until they started to train computers to do just that...

You work on your pot. The smooth and repetitive nature of the work is hypnotic. The pressing of your fingers against gently yielding, supply clay. It is like each motion you make, no matter how small, makes a huge impact into the final product, though none who see it will know them all.

No. Not product. Creation.

You aren't going to be making a masterpiece on your first go anyway- but that you already accept.

Perhaps you spoke too harshly to Zaj. It isn't so much that you think that there is no opportunity for people to succeed in your nation and among your people- it's just abstracted by so many layers of capitalist reality that there is no process of creation. There is no beginning, middle, and end; only the start and end of your shift. Nobody makes pots, even though decorative pots are sold, in Centralia. They work at a factory managing logistics and deciding sales targets. Or they work in the warehouse, or they work in retail and sell them. They don't make anything. Perhaps that is the reason for the estrangement. It isn't enough to be a part of a tiny cog in a giant corporate machine, at least for you. Every man should know what he is. That's your perfect world- the doctor, the technician, the farmer... the warrior. All of them know what they are. They know what they give to the world, and what the world gives them back. Perhaps it is too simple, but that is the way things should be. That is how you feel at this moment; making... this.
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“Are you finished? Let me see.”

You step back and show Zaj your piece of crockery.

”I took inspiration from birds to make the handles. If I knew how to sculpt I would have made them look more like feathers thought...”
“You know we are using these for simple water and grain jars, right?”
”O-Oh.”
“Haha, that is quite alright Akule. You will have the prettiest water jug of them all. And look at that form- you even made the pieces thicker at the weak spots so as to avoid breaking in the firing process- what a clever lad.”
”Thanks.”
“I can tell a lot from a man by what he can create, and what he does. Over this last year, we've really got to know you, Akule, the Mainlander. And so, as such, I want to formalize my invitation.”
”Hmm?”
“To join my family. To become an Anak. I want to adopt you.”
”But I'm... a fully grown adult. We aren't even related?!”
“So? Out here, you have no family, and based on what you told me, you have little to no family back home either. So why not join another? If there be an old woman with no one, why not take her and let her knit sweaters in your warm home. If an orphan child is living on the street, why not take them under your wing and raise them? The blondes have always done such things and always will.”
”I mean, this seems like a big deal... Aren't I a runaway fugitive? How can we even get this legalized in writing?”
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“Huh? You will take my name and call me father. I will call you Son, and Brun will be your brother and you and him will be known to all as brothers. You will fight the world together. This is all. Is there anything more then a family is? We will declare it publicly. What else would one need to be a family?”
”I guess... not.”
“Brun has no brothers, Akule. The same as you. Many sisters, yes, but my weak seed gave my wife no more sons- none that survived past childhood. This is especially a problem for a chief! Do you remember what I said to you when we first met? I meant it. I want you to join us Akule- everything in my house and my home will be yours as is my son. You will be my Son. Will do you do this?”

Imagine, yourself... a Mainlander, but as a Blonde. As an Anak. Akule Anak. That will be you. There is no other home for you in the world- that much you have already accepted when you asked to join with the blondes. Is there anything better then to be family?

>Join the family
>Politely decline
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>>5388163
>Join the family
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>>5388161
>You always imagined yourself as something of an artist.
Hey! Just like Hitler!

>>Join the family
I don't think we have any reason not to desu.
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>>5388163
>Join the family
The Naonae family still exists in the future, I wonder what will happen for Akule to use his name again.
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>Join the family
This seems logical, but also giving cijan founder-tier lineage seems nice, the lad deserves it.
>>5388240
It's not a sibling thing. He has no siblings or other family members. I would guess he eventually calls himself Naonae again, but there is also the fact that the Anak are still around, the latest hegemon is one of them.
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>>5388163
>Join the family
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>>5388163
>Join the family

If only this was the endgame, and Akule happily lived out the rest of his life serving as the harsh right hand of his charismatic brother and committing acts of ideological domestic terrorism.

World would be a lot better for it.

That’s really saying something.
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>>5388333
>World would be a lot better for it.
What the fuck are you talking about? The Jaxtian species would just drive itself into extinction, and we would have been later on eaten alive by the balaathi even if we somehow managed to hold out for thousands of years.

We're literally going to have an nuclear holocaust, you know.
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>>5388338
The nuclear holocaust would have occurred irregardless of Akule or not, but Akule was the man who came out of the ruins, conquered everyone else, and decided the best way to run the ruins of the old world was to promptly slaughter a large proportion of the survivors in sarcastically cruel fashion, before institutionalising all sorts of genocide, class, racial and gender bigotry and a restrictive caste system.

Just because the Hegemony worked doesn’t mean it was the only possible ideology, or that it was the only way the Jaxtians could have survived and progressed in a manner able to fend of the Balaathi. The existence of our rivals alone puts that to rest, who have their own governing systems with various levels of authoritarianism. Unity is an excellent thing, but the instatement of a system that reads like an unholy fusion of the Third Reich and Oceania with an extra helping of crimes against Jaxtian kind is hard to justify as the optimal result here. The viewpoints of neither people who cannot fathom any other result nor the same person who created this system be trusted to empirically examine its virtues and vices.

TLDR, we have seen the Hegemony regularly commits horrific crimes, and its primary virtue seem to be the ability to unite everyone in one direction, a trait that is not unique, and comes at the cost of the jackboot on everyone’s neck forever. Just because it’s the future that it is doesn’t mean it is the future we needed or wanted.
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*created this system should not be trusted
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>>5388358
Whatever points you have about "a bad future" don't quite matter when the alternative is a horrible extinction. If the jaxtians didn't die due to the holocaust and the following dark age, they would have died due to some space threat.
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>>5388163
>Join the family
Finally! A chance to shed the doomer from his soul! Now all he needs is a wife.

>>5388358
Ever thought that whoever survived a nuclear holocaust wouldn’t make the perfect utopia in your head? I knew you motherfuckers wouldn’t try to identify with Akule because the whole Hitler shit was confirmed.

>>5388362
Your assuming that the Hegemony didn’t cuck the Monke’s development for thousands of years.
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>>5388162
>We aren't even related?!”
Yes Akule, it's an adoption
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>>5388163
>Join
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>>5388370
> Ever thought that whoever survived a nuclear holocaust wouldn’t make the perfect utopia in your head? I knew you motherfuckers wouldn’t try to identify with Akule because the whole Hitler shit was confirmed.

If we ever get nuked, I doubt whatever comes out of the ashes will be a shining city on a hill, but I feel it’s reasonable to proclaim that the the following genocide and extreme discrimination was probably quite unnecessary.

Akule is relatable in that he’s a disenfranchised soldier in a world that doesn’t seem to have a place for him. But you have to admit that every time he’s says something like ‘racial coexistence is impossible, the stronger will eat the weaker’ or ‘the only solution to unemployment is genocide’ or ‘I killed an innocent woman in an assassination, and don’t feel any pity at all’ or ‘these people who look different from me are fundamentally worse than me’, he does become somewhat… less so.

>>5388362
Until proven that the Hegemony in it’s all its murderous glory was the salvation of Jaxtian kind, I remain unconvinced that genocide. strict discrimination, deeply amoral ‘tests’ and the like are all necessity.
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>>5388414
>Akule is relatable in that he’s a disenfranchised soldier in a world that doesn’t seem to have a place for him. But you have to admit that every time he’s says something like ‘racial coexistence is impossible, the stronger will eat the weaker’ or ‘the only solution to unemployment is genocide’ or ‘I killed an innocent woman in an assassination, and don’t feel any pity at all’ or ‘these people who look different from me are fundamentally worse than me’, he does become somewhat… less so.
I think some people DO find that relatable. Akule seems to be inspired by various online subcultures lime the blackpill, doomers, parts of /pol/ etc.
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>>5388362
We have literally zero way of knowing this.
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>>5388553
We literally do, if the jaxtian race never went to space, they would have either died before or been exterminated by the Balaathi
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>>5388714
Okay, first of all
>We don't know that
You can say "it's very likely they would," but you can't state absolutes about a hypothetical situation we've never seen. Come on.

And second of all, are you implying that the Hegemony is the only possible way the Jaxtians could've gotten to space? Really? Out of the billion possible futures the one that's canon happens to be the one and only "correct" path forward?
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>>5388720
>you can't state absolutes about a hypothetical situation we've never seen
If i'm holding an apple in my hand, i can say with certainty that if i drop it, that it'll hit the flor, despite it being 'an hypothetical situation i've never seen'
>Out of the billion possible futures the one that's canon happens to be the one and only "correct" path forward?
Outside of retarded 'but what if this thing that had absolutely no chance of happening at all happen' hypothesis, without akule unifying everyone, they would have continued to squabble and then either killed themselves with nukes or survived for thousands of years without an absolute unified racial government that would have allowed for them to expand into space as they did.

Without the hegemony's control economy, it would have been extremely hard to start their space empire, and without the hegemony's genetic engineering, we would have never gotten the likes of Vantix, Maktana, Bost, and so many others that were absolutely necessary to stop the Balaathi, who would have happened regardless of what jaxtian society was like.
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>>5388751
>If i'm holding an apple in my hand, i can say with certainty that if i drop it, that it'll hit the flor, despite it being 'an hypothetical situation i've never seen'

Some anon in this thread is really trying to get a leg up in an argument by pretending that he's never seen anybody drop anything by accident before. You can't make this up.
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>>5388759
Absolute retard. The idea that you can't "be sure" because "you haven't seen it happen" is stupid.
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>>5388763
It's a good thing I never said that.
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>>5388751
>If i'm holding an apple in my hand
>literal apple metaphor
I was going to say you were comparing apples and oranges, so thanks for beating me to it. You realize that alternate history isn't physics, right? Can you give me definitive answers for what American politics would look like today if:

>The Confederacy won the Civil War?
>JFK was never assassinated?
>Nukes were never dropped on Japan?
>Al Gore was president instead of H.W. Bush?

I'm going to go with "you can't." You can speculate and make educated guesses, but without some kind of scifi timeline jumper nobody will ever know for certain what would've happened. And this is for relatively recent events where we know far, far more details than something that happened THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO in a FICTIONAL SETTING where the limited information we have is fed through us through severely biased POVs.

>without an absolute unified racial government that would have allowed for them to expand into space as they did.
It's not racially unified. The blondes are a culturally and physiognomally different race that survived only because Akule was a weeaboo, and apparently they didn't impede the glorious Hegemony.

>But that's because the blondes are okay and every other race would've impeded it!!!
We have literally only seen the other races through the eyes of a genocidal maniac.

>Without the hegemony's control economy, it would have been extremely hard to start their space empire
I'll give you this but only because Bananas has made his viewpoint on authoritarianism clear. Nothing says it had to be the Hegemony in its current form that imposes this economy.

>without the hegemony's genetic engineering, we would have never gotten the likes of Vantix, Maktana, Bost, and so many others
There have clearly been great men and women throughout human history without any genetic engineering required.
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>>5388816
> Can you give me definitive answers for what American politics would look like today if:
If i knew that a meteor was about to hit earth and that one man in the entire human population of the time had the capabilities to save them, i would know pretty well what'd happpen if he was that.
>It's not racially unified.
The Blondes don't hold any power. The Mainlanders do, and there's no more "Centrallians" or "Westlanders" or "Northlanders", just the Hegemony.
>We have literally only seen the other races through the eyes of a genocidal maniac.
We don't need to "see" because it literally doesn't matter. Akule genocided anyone that wasn't a blonde or mainlander because of his whole culture war belief. It doesn't matter what he did as much as the result being that there was a single cultural group (aside from blondes)
>There have clearly been great men and women throughout human history without any genetic engineering required.
Yes, but without the specific genetic engineering we wouldn't have gotten the ubemonkes that saved the hegemony several times over - and for fucks sake, Maktana IS LITERALLY an descendant of Akule himself.
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>>5388828
>If i knew that a meteor was about to hit earth and that one man in the entire human population of the time had the capabilities to save them
Okay, but, like... you don't know that. That's the whole point of this.
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>>5388834
I know that the Balaathi are inevitable, and without the specific set of circumstances that allowed for the genetically engineered uber-elite geniuses that allowed the hegemony to survived, they would die.
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And just like that, you are now Akule Anak. The ceremony is surprisingly brief and sparse, just a simple declaration to the people of the village, who understand and begin to spread the word. All you have to do is correct those who name you incorrectly, and then they nod and change your address. You are no longer Akule the Mainlander, you are Akule Anak. The moment you took on that name, it is like a magic spell. It's like you are covered in paint and everyone looks right past your blue fur and instantly; you are one of them. It really is incredible.

You didn't quite realize exactly what that meant until it happened. You knew that Zuj and his family were important; being the leader of the Golden Hand and all, but you didn't realize exactly how important really. The Anaks are probably the most famous of all blonde families, even other tribes still in war with your own seem to respect this family's name. You suppose you should be thankful that out of all the blondes who decided to adopt you- it would be this one.

The Mainlanders have famous families too. The Blackspots, Durix, the Takars- though they are foreigners. All of them are, of course, very rich. The Anak family is respected not because of their money- they are not even the richest of all blondes- but for honor, tradition, strength of arms, and the approval of those that follow them- not wealth.

But by far the most interesting change was the sudden amount of... female attention. Something that you can honestly say you don't remember having any of back in Centralia. As one of Zuj's sons, you are a very eligible bachelor. You like it. It makes you feel good. It's no small lose- Centralia women were all whores- even the few good ones were already taken or hidden in the cracks where you could never find them. Guys like you were practically invisible to them. Here- marriage is the standard, no polygamous sugar-daddy nonsense. You'd be surprised that Brun isn't married yet, but considered arranged marriages are still common among the blondes you suspect as the son of the chief he's probably waiting for a similar high-value match.

Speaking of Brun, he has seemingly become more aggressive lately, ever since Zuj invited you to the family. You understand why he may be upset, and he seems to be avoiding you, but you still train with him. When you spar with knives- you know the restraint he must have. You are sure he could have killed an uncountable number of times- as for yourself, you don't think you ever even got a window no matter how much you try. Your knife fighting skills improve, but Brun just seems one step ahead always.

”You can't beat me, Brother! Mainlanders are too civilized. You need the killing instinct- you don't got it!”
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It is later. Entrenched as an Anak and as a member of the Golden Hand, you are given command of a small squad in the mountains. While tracking the movements of a small tribe- you are alerted to a vehicle entering the reservation.

“What could it be? They couldn't be soldiers looking for you- could they?”
”Zero percent chance. Centralia's government would only ever use official channels even if they cared about one soldier a year MIA. Blondes have free reign in and out of the reservation, but everybody else needs permission with the tribes whose border they cross. This can only be something else- outlaws or thrillseekers..”
“Blondes and yourself, Akule.”
”Right.”

What should you do? These are intruders on your land- either Mainlanders or an enemy tribe. The same as you once were. Until proven otherwise, their intentions can only be criminal.

>Snipe them from a distance and claim their lives
>Ambush them and put them to the blade for glory
>Disable the car and capture whoever is within
>Other (Write In)
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>>5388844
>I know that the Balaathi are inevitable
Sure.

>without the specific set of circumstances that allowed for the genetically engineered uber-elite geniuses that allowed the hegemony to survived, they would die.
Again, you don't know this. You can say
>I think the Hegemony is the only thing that would've stopped the Balaathi
or
>I strongly believe normal monkes never could've stood a chance against the Balaathi

And these are fine and arguable things. But unless you are Bananas, or until Bananas gives us a flash-forward into a future where the Hegemony didn't exist, or a different, less genocidal form of it existed, you cannot say you KNOW. Because you don't. It's that simple.

>>5388847
>Centralia women were all whores
Man this guy is just checking all the boxes. You'd think this thread would make people stop and think "wow the glorious Hegemony is founded on the back of the ideals of a cringe /pol/tard incel doomer" but I guess not.

>Ambush them and put them to the blade for glory
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>>5388414
That’s the point, Akule isn’t relatable, he’s a whiny genocidal doomer that needs an actual education beyond his bullshit public schooling. Even if one of your points was a player decision (I killed an innocent woman in an assassination, and don’t feel any pity at all) and another bluntly false with his adoption of Blonde culture (these people who look different from me are fundamentally worse than me), he just isn’t a likable or compelling MC. I think playing Brun or his father would’ve been more interesting and compelling, certainly more likable.

>>5388441
But those subcultures aren’t enjoyable to play as, at all. It’s all doom, gloom, and wallowing in your depression. Fuck that shit.

>>5388751
Your assuming the Hegemony’s totalitarian government and economy was absolutely necessary for all that, when in all actuality the Hegemony probably retarded society to enforce conformity and stability, much like post-Warring States Japan turning their samurai into bureaucrats to reenforce their totalitarian society, not to mention the lack of internal competition to promote progress. We probably would’ve progressed a lot faster without the Hegemony than with it, in all honesty.
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>>5388859
>>Disable the car and capture whoever is within
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>>5388859
>Disable the car and capture whoever is within
Killing them is retarded. We have no idea of who they are.
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>>5388874
But it's more fun.
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>>5388861
>Again, you don't know this
>hurr but you can't be one hundred percent sure because i said so!!!!
No. I don't care about "But what if in this retarded hypothetical situatio-" no.
>>5388862
>We probably would’ve progressed a lot faster without the Hegemony than with it, in all honesty.
I know you're a faggot who thinks that globohomo is unironically good and that centrallia sounds like a paradise, but that doesn't mean you need to be retarded.
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>>5388879
>I know you're a faggot who thinks that globohomo is unironically good and that centrallia sounds like a paradise, but that doesn't mean you need to be retarded.
Kek.

>>5388876
Yes it is fun. But fun must be in moderation.
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>>5388876
More fun how? It's just retarded behaviour
>someone walked into my reservation, i'm going to snipe them from a mountain
We're not sand people.
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>>5388883
We literally are sand people.
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>>5388887
Like hell we are, blondes have all their stuff about honor and justice. Sniping someone for setting a foot on your territory is neither honorable nor just.
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>>5388890
Good thing I didn't pick the sniping option? >>5388861
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>>5388861
>Even if one of your points was a player decision (I killed an innocent woman in an assassination, and don’t feel any pity at all) and another bluntly false with his adoption of Blonde culture (these people who look different from me are fundamentally worse than me), he just isn’t a likable or compelling MC. I think playing Brun or his father would’ve been more interesting and compelling, certainly more likable.

I’ll readily give you the first, but he outright said the second twice- first with the Redmanes, and then with the Green Faces. Just because he isn’t going ‘all people who look different from me suck’ definitely doesn’t mean he’s not indulging in healthy doses of racism (and apparently, misogyny).

>>5388859
>Disable the car and capture whoever is within
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>>5388859
>Disable the car and capture whoever is within
No need to go crazy… yet.

Also sad that we aren’t as close to Brun now, but I suppose that’s inevitable, what with anon deciding not to reciprocate his views.

>>5388861
Frankly I expected a better character, all my Akule hype and investment is pulling up daisies at this point.
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>>5388890
Well, maybe the Blondes think sniping people who intrude on your homes and don’t announce themselves as just and honourable.
Wouldn’t be the greatest shock.
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>>5388879
Kek

>>5388897
>definitely doesn’t mean he’s not indulging in healthy doses of racism (and apparently, misogyny)
All of which he learned from public schooling. Where else would he learn it? His father’s still out buying a pack of cigarettes and his mother is objectively horrible, putting him into debt slavery with her irresponsible spending. The man clearly needed some love, or at least a stable family structure.
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Akule is a good protagonist and anyone who thinks he's bad because "muh heckin /pol/ chud doomer bloomer goomer zoomer" probably didn't even read the first threads

What, did you expect him to be born a two foot tall giant with a crazy mask who genocided everyone for the lolz?
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>>5388915
>What, did you expect him to be born a two foot tall giant with a crazy mask who genocided everyone for the lolz?
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>>5388859
>Disable the car and capture whoever is within

>>5388861
>You'd think this thread would make people stop and think "wow the glorious Hegemony is founded on the back of the ideals of a cringe /pol/tard incel doomer" but I guess not.
Do you really think hzbTuK2+ or E/WniIkY see that idoelogy as anything less than "unironically based"? Come on.

>>5388915
Akule's a fine character. He just seems a bit static and inflexible for a quest protagonist, and his lengthy /pol/ manifestos are spurring a LOT of ideological shitflinging that really IS making this feel like a containment thread between updates.
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I agree that Akuleiot Rogers isn't fun to play as.
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>>5388828
Akule's regime leading to a space empire doesn't mean that was the ONLY way to get a space Empire.

You can get to Alaska from Russia through the Bering straight but that's not the only route between the two hemispheres
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>>5388897
Wrong link.

>>5388968
>Do you really think hzbTuK2+ or E/WniIkY see that idoelogy as anything less than "unironically based"? Come on.
Yeah I can't argue with this.
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>>5388915
I think he's fine and well-written as a character but I don't think he works well as a MC. He's too evil to identify with, he's not funny or charismatic enough to like, and we have zero room to change any of this.
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>>5389054
I am fine with villainous pro tags but he isn't interesting to follow like Light Yagami or early season Dexter or Joe from You. He's basically if you took that one guy on the internet you wish you could slap and built a quest around him
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>>5388915
I find him somewhat interesting. I actually enjoy the debates, at least until someone starts dropping personal insults (why even…).

But I definitely enjoyed the main quest more, and one of the reasons is because all the Supremes have been more compelling than Akule, and a lot less whiny.
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>>5389079
Agori was pretty whiny and gloomy in fairness. But then, we also voted to have a child kill him with a chesspiece.
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>>5389084
True.
But Agori was smart, passionate, charismatic, very personally and dramatically evil and fully willing and able to dismember people with his bare hands, all of which are significant advantages over Akule.
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>>5389102
Give it time. We know from previous threads and the bonus flash-forwards that Akule develops a considerable degree of flair, between his bright pink robe, his crazy tribal mask, and his knife-themed genocide poetry.
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>>5388861
>Man this guy is just checking all the boxes. You'd think this thread would make people stop and think "wow the glorious Hegemony is founded on the back of the ideals of a cringe /pol/tard incel doomer" but I guess not.

You're only realizing this now? The Hegemony is a facist, supremacist, sexist regime. What did you think it's founding ideals were? Pragmatism!? Ha!

The QM aluded to it's sordid history. We were fine with it because all the dirty deeds were done in the distant past and we got to make more fun decisions like where to colonise and what space ships to make... and who to enslave.

I don't like this side quest, not because it's cringe but because it's BORING. I'm going to lurk until we get to make fun decisions again.
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>>5389115
We're over halfway done with this thread. I'm concerned that without a considerable multi-year timeskip we're never getting there, and if anything the flash-forwards make it seem less likely (why would we need them if we're going to get insane Akule inquest?).

>>5389118
>You're only realizing this now?
What about my statement made you think I was only realizing this now?
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>>5389137
>What about my statement made you think I was only realizing this now?

The fact that you even made it in the first place.

Okay, better question: What did you expect Akule to be like before he became Unspeakable?
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>>5389148
>What did you expect Akule to be like before he became Unspeakable?
I was fully expecting either a descent into villainy or a subversion like him getting framed/his deeds being twisted over the millennia. Not him starting racist and then continuing to be racist and then ending racist.
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>>5389150
Fair enough. That's a valid expectation.
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>>5388859
>Disable the car and capture whoever is within
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>>5389137
>>5389102
The issue is we are getting Episode II Annikan instead of Episode V Vader
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>>5389203
Or, hell, Episode III Anakin. I think I'd prefer it if we were murdering younglings right now.
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>>5389150
In fairness, development has taken place. He went from being a bland, directionless doomer with no skills or friends to a terrorist with a cause (sort of) and a community. The real (for me) problem is that so far none of his philsophical underpinnings OR developments are really things we, the players, got a chance to guide or weigh in on. He believed what he believed, and when new ideas were introduced that altered those beliefs, neither the ideas nor the ways in which they changed him were reqlly ours to determine. Even his move towards community and purposeful action are mainly driven by the Golden Hand, with our vites being "progress the plot, or don't?" more often than not. This new vite seems different, which is why I decided to join back in.
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>>5389207
It sounds like we're agreeing desu. Akule's changed in entirely superficial ways: he's still exactly as much of a blackpilled doomer as he was at the start (and will be at the end), he's just a blackpilled doomer with a family and a cause now. I would've been interested if this whole family thing caused him to lighten up and drop the /pol/ stuff, only for something traumatic to happen later and cause a 180 into genocide, but instead it's just one thing forever.

>The real (for me) problem is that so far none of his philsophical underpinnings OR developments are really things we, the players, got a chance to guide or weigh in on.
No, I completely agree. It's difficult to tell how most of the choices in this thread affect anything, which is a huge change from the regular quest.
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>>5388859
>Disable the car and capture whoever is within
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>>5389102
Also, Agori’s story was about dealing with being in the shadow of greater men. He was originally supposed to be the Supreme to finish off the Baal, but got cucked and overshadowed by other and had to deal with the fact that he was the right Supreme at the wrong time. He’s one of the more underrated Supremes.

>>5389115
We don’t have much time left, it seems like this would need a Part 2 to really get good. I think we should’ve started at Akule’s reign, it wouldn’t have really changed anything narratively but it would have improved our perception of him from being a whiny uncharismatic incel.

>>5389137
Honestly, I think the flash forwards do more damage to the side quest than add insight. It reinforces the perception that our choice are irrelevant and don’t matter, and that there no secret good side to Akule that the Hegemony twisted his history to it’s own purposes.

>>5389148
Less whiny uncharismatic doomer incel. Like, after the whole Ceaser shit during interrogation, he’s just pathetic.

>>5389150
This too. I was hoping for a dynamic, complex character, not whiny Hitler from beginning to end.

>>5389207
>>5389221
I’d argue that he still is a bland, directionless doomer. Really, what action has he taken of his own initiative? He was dragged into all of his missions and tasks, he didn’t attempt to make any friends, even his assassination was internalized as an inevitability, to be taken care of with or without him. He isn’t inciting anything, he’s just going with the flow.
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>bleh bleh bleh i expected a heckin subversion but didn't get what i wanted!!!! why is the scary genocider an racist??? how come my choices dont matter in a prequel?
shut up
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>>5389367
If our choices don't matter why make it a quest at all?
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>>5389401
It's a prequel, you buffoon. Your choices are only going to be stuff that affects the now, like whether to kill the guy or what to do with these people. Of course they're not going to matter in the overall story like our choices in the main quest do, we already know how it all ends.
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>>5389406
We only know that Akule is remembered as the founder who genocided several races.

There are several ways a QM could have us vote that shape his character that still end up with the present day of the quest.
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>>5389420
Making him into some kind of misunderstood guy who was framed is retarded, so it's hardly bad that we don't have the opton to do that.
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You have decided to stop the car without harming the occupants. You know you could probably just shoot your rifle at them- but you're afraid the car would veer off the road and you'd accidentally kill them that way. This is safer- you put out some tire spikes at the bottom of a small rise and wait for the car to stop. It does.

Approaching with your men, you find no armed resistance. Nobody gets out and tries to flee either- it's just a regular civilian car. It's a nice car too- a Baltimian Land-Crusier. Really nice car. The kind of car you always wished you could have had. You are utterly shocked when the window rolls down.

“Hallo? Why you destroy my car?! What are you doing?!”

It's a Small-Ear. He's also speaking bad Mainlander- a language you have not spoken for the better part of a year now. You think you feel your brain reset. They are from a very far away place. The blondes are shocked too- they've certainly never seen one before. They also do not speak Mainlander- you'll have to translate on your own.

”This is the blonde reservation. You are not allowed to be here.”
“Wha- we make wrong turn. Tourist. You fix car and you pay.”
”Shut the fuck up.”

The man looks angry for a moment, until you put his hands on his car, aggressively. He shrinks back. He's small, shorter then a blonde, and yet somehow, he gets to drive this. It's about that time, you think, he sees your guns and knives.

“P-Please mister. I only tourist.”
”I told you to be quiet. Worthless little slime. Little fucker Smalleared cunt. Fuck you. Where did you get this car?”
“I bought- you want car? You take- please don't hurt me.”
”You bought this? I'm a Mainlander. You little cunt. Why can you afford this car and I can't? This is the pinnacle of Mainlander engineering. Mainlander scientists invented the combustion engine. In fact, Mainlanders invented the air conditioning in that car too. And the radio. Everything. My people made this. Your people made nothing. Your people shit in ditches on the side of the road. Just look at you. You ugly little faggot. I fucking hate you. Look at your unibrow, your oily fur. What have you given to the world? What has your race done? Nothing. Redmanes can become Alpha-Males more then once in a blue moon unlike Mainlanders, Green-Faces are smart, Westlanders are beautiful... but what do you have? Nothing. Even your women are fucking ugly.”
“Boss man- please- you in charge?”
”I wish I was in charge. If I was in charge, I would put all of you and your wretched kind to the fire. You're a dozen a mark- little dull-pelt interchangeable monkeys. I hate you. I'd burn you, your people, all of them. Burn them all to ash and spread the ash to the water, destroy every record of your people's existence- and many, many years after I am dead no one will even know you ever fucking existed.”
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Back to Blondespeak.

”Call a tow and get this one off the reservation. He's no threat.”

With no relation to the Northlander freedom fighters, Centralia's peacekeeping forces, or any faction of blondes or arms dealers- this one is free to go. There is no purpose for him to stay here any longer- no need for him to go to the torture chamber. No reason at all.

Over the next few months- the year grows hot again as you just pass your official one year mark in captivity. It's crazy to think how much your life changed more in one year then it had for almost all of your teenage years. They say that life goes by faster the older you get, so a combination of your age and what you've been doing you feel like this year has lasted a whole lifetime.

You are approached by Zuj Anak again, and he embraces you warmly.

“Akule, my son!”
”...Father.”
“Sorry to press this on you so quickly, but we have little time left now.”
”What is it?”
“I must ask you for a favor again. It is... about Brun. And me.”
”I'm listening.”
“...I'm getting old, Akule. You may not want to hear this, but I am reaching the end of my life. I've lived a good, long life- but now, it is nearing its end.”
”Nonsense! You are perfectly healthy- the doctors said so.”
“I know, Akule, but this is one of the things you just... learn. I can just feel it. That last winter, I felt a specter creep into my bones- the Gods eyes were upon me then. That was my last winter, I will not live to see past the next one. This I know for certain.”

He is quite old now; even this past year he seems so much more frail, so much softer spoken, but you aren't sure if it's just his aging or the fact you look at him in a different light now.

”...What does this have to do with Brun? Your inheritance?”
“More then that. The Golden Hand, Akule. You know I am the leader of that group- and naturally, it will need a replacement.”
”So Brun, your son, is who you are picking?”
“I'm afraid its not that simple.”
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“We blondes have traditions, you know. The men want to be lead by someone worthy. Do you know our word for Ruler?”
”Yes- it's translated as One-Who-Leads. Pretty self explanatory.”
”Not quite. Blondespeak uses different words then Mainlander- the “tyrant” is One-Who-Rules-With-Strength. The “slaver” is One-Who-Leads-With-Coin. The “king”? One-Who-Leads-By-Blood. Brun cannot be a King. He must be a Ruler. It is not enough for him to be born into his position- he must lead in all ways. He must be the best at fighting, the wisest, the fastest, the best with women- though not quite as good as me, heh. But do you understand?”
”I'm not sure. Does he need to... prove himself?”
“Exactly. But who you ask? His brothers. Hence, we come to you. I must admit- I didn't want to spring this on you, for you to think I only adopted you for this old tradition...”
”So the one who wins these contests... they become the leader of the tribe?”
“Not necessarily. All of the chief's sons are candidates, and those who are his son-in-spirit, and the sons of those high enough to be the chief's own brothers-in-spirit. The winner will always be chosen by the current chief. That is the way of succession. This is the way we choose our rulers- the best will always win out- not the most rich or strongest or most closest related by blood- but by the contents of who they are. What really matters.”
”So you want me to compete against him?”
“Yes, Akule. And in the next few days it will be the hottest and longest day of the year- the time of ordeals. I wanted to tell you now so you have ample time to prepare, it would not be fair for Brun to know but not you.”

That must be why he's become so competitive lately. He must want to look good for his father... though you think it's all a game. There is a literal zero percent chance Zuj would pick you of all people to lead the tribe- both a foreigner and adopted son. He will always choose his biological son. You are just here to make Brun look good to all the other young men in the tribe, to “earn” his place of privilege and power.

“...Will you compete?”
”Of course.”
“Oh... Thank the Gods. I was afraid you'd think yourself unworthy- just because you are not a blonde. I want you to know you are ever part as much my son as Brun is. But I want to warn you now, this trial is very dangerous...”

>You are confident
>Remain Cautious
>Worry about Brun- it will be dangerous for him too
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>>5389451
>You are confident
Brun is way, way safer than us. If we don't end badly hurt or dead, he definitely wont.

Also, lol, tiny monkey.
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>>5389451
>You are confident
Ha, is that a Hegemony symbol on Brun's hand in that cutaway? And this leadership selection... Akule really stole almost every innovation he added tonthe Centralian norm directly fromnthe Blondes, huh?
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>>5389451
>Remain Cautious

Aloha. Do the small ears get money because their islands were used for nuclear testing?
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>>5389426
We could have done a start of darkness instead of starting and ending mostly the same
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>>5389495
>Culture gets copy pasted by a larper into a galactic civilization you are only second class citizens in

Salty asf
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>>5389451
>Remain Cautious
Gloat after you win the battle. Also holy shit, Akule. I didn't expect him going full apeshit right then.
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>>5389451
>You are confident
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>>5389524
He lost it when he saw a race he thought "lesser" having access to something he wanted his whole life.
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>>5389575
Yes and no, it was that, yes, but it was more so that he, an mainlander who worked all his life, couldn't get an *mainlander* invention, and someone he saw as lesser from a race that, according to him, invented nothing, did.

Basically, you could compare it to an person from a farming country not being able to afford the fancy produce their own country sends overseas.
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>>5389581
More like a lower-class person from a wealthy country being unable for afford a Lambo, and being mad at a "street-shitter" millionaire tourist driving one through his town.
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>>5389451
>Worry about Brun- it will be dangerous for him too
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>>5389451
>>Worry about Brun- it will be dangerous for him too
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>>5389449
Da fuck Akule? Did a Smallear bully you and fuck your mom when you were young? Jesus.

>>5389451
>You are confident
>Worry about Brun- it will be dangerous for him too
I’m confident in our abilities, and in Brun’s ability to win, but I do worry that he may be injured in the process, and someone unqualified leading us

>>5389495
Yea, this is starting to turn into the Han Solo Prequel now.
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>>5389852
I wonder is Cijan is a descendant of the true Anak bloodline, or of Akule's own?

Also, for all I and some others have criticized this thread, I would like it noted that I am really enjoying seeing the array of unique phenotypes that Jaxt used to host. The Smallears are a neat-looking ethnicity, too. I've long conceptualized the Jaxtians are blue orangutan people since Alphas were elaborated upon, but with all these unique colourations, I'm beginning to see them more as gibbon-people.
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>>5389859
Honestly? Wouldn’t be surprised if it was a bit of both, given his extreme intelligence and reserved nature. Maybe Akule had two wives, one as Anak and the other Naonae.

I like the other races too, it’s a nice change of pace.
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>>5389859
+1.
Still having fun. I just don’t like Akule.

>>5389852
>Gets lost in the desert
>Random man screams bloody murder at you
>Refuses to elaborate
>Makes you leave
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Okay, uh, i just realized, but wasn't jaxtian architecture supposed to be *vertical*? Why do they have normal houses all of a sudden? Not to mention knifes being blonde-only doesn't make sense when it was specifically mentioned they learned knives because they were easy to use in vertical places.
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>>5389893
Knife-fighting and vertical architecture were probably both way more common in the ancestral regions and conditions of Jaxtian society.

Note also that the Blondes have stronger tails due to "spider monkey admixture", itself tied to an ancestral, arboreal lifestyle. Their rugged, desert-mountain lifestyle probably necessitated squatter abodes, while they kept the physicality and martial traditions alive.

Mainlander society seems to have abandoned knife-fighting because it doesn't value tradition or physicality (perhaps to the detriment of such a kinetic race as the Jaxtians), and because guns are broadly more efficient.They may have done likewise with their building plans, adopting an easier-to-build plan that is psychologically-upsetting to the average citizen in order to save money... Though I don't know what we've actually seen much of the way they construct their homes, yet.
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>>5389902
>that is psychologically-upsetting to the average citizen in order to save money
Literally impossible. A literal trained, genetically edited shock marine giga-alpha was going fucking crazy just from spending a FEW MINUTES in an vertical station.
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>>5389905
non-vertical

He was sweating like crazy and saying their buildings were sideways.
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>>5389905
>>5389907
I think that's less because it was like a human house and more because it was a continuous strip with gravity arranged perpendicular to how it was on the Jaxtian ship he just left, and that change (coupled with different ways of organizing layouts) led to his confusion.

Monkeys, great-apes, birds, and squirrels all think more vertically than humans, but it's not like they go immediately bonkers from being in a rancher-style home and can't figure out how to navigate it unless you add three more floors and change all the stairs to ladders. Still, it might not be INTUITIVE or IDEAL to them, just like most people might find it weird to live in an extremely vertically-inclined home with few adjoining rooms and lots of stories.
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>>5389883
Normies get out REEEEEEEEEEEE!
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>>5389905
From a certain point of view OUR modern society drives us crazy due to how counter intuitive it is to our instincts.

For example stress related health conditions caused by our brains thinking we are in constant life to detach situations due to workplace bullshit.

Of course that could just be headcanon but I do like the idea that Capitalistic Jaxt was so fucked up it would basically torture 90 percent of the population all day for the sake of profit. Just like irl capitalism does.
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The hottest day of the year- and your ordeal.

The ordeal is to climb a sacred mountain. Two or more boys compete to see who may reach the top first. Brun has never climbed this mountain before- and neither have you. It must be a thing unknown to all of those who compete. The way up is a mystery for each; this is about strength, endurance, and raw climbing skill- something that all Jaxtians value. You'd just feel a little more home in a tree then a steep incline of rocks...

Brun seems a little less competitive then his usual self as you drive out to the mountain- only beginning your ordeal when the sun is in the highest spot in the sky.

”Usually, three measures are used to determine who will be the next chief. An ordeal, a test of mind, and the duel.”
”I see. So if you win two out of three, you're the champion?”
”Not so much- it just makes you look better.”
”Is this the part where I say “May the best man win”, and then you respond by saying “I intend to?””
”I won't if you don't start it.”
”Alright. When do you want to start the race? Nobody else is here... there is no judge or adjudicator? How do you make sure nobody cheats?”
”Any man weak enough to be cheated and not stop it deserves it at this stage. Besides; while only one of the Chief's sons gets to be the next chief, they're all supposed to be friends afterwards. After all, if I'm the chief, and you're the warleader, and our hypothetical youngest brother becomes the medicine-man... makes sense that we have to agree who wins instead of fight over it and resent it for years. Right?”
”...Yeah, I guess so.”
”Look- my shadow is about to disappear under my foot. Let's go.”
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With a burst of speed on open ground and a fire of determination, you are confident you can win against Brun. You dash up the rocks quickly- your sweating palm-pads quickly evaporating against the hot stone. While Brun is certainly a better outdoorsman then you are in climbing- you do have the advantage of height and reach on him, making you better able to clamor up these rises.

It's a hard climb. The sun beats down on you mercilessly. The only real rule was that both of you had to carry the same amount of water- one pouch. But your knots aren't quite up to snuff, because halfway up the mount you find your water pouch slipping and falling down the rise. Shit, you can't lose that. It's too important to just abandon it.

You look down to see where it landed, and behold, something unexpected. There is a tiny furry creature standing over the waterskin- a Nut Thief. This one is a wild one, it's fuzzy and unkempt with a darker fur color intended for camouflage. They aren't a domesticated species yet- though some people have thought of experimenting with selectively breeding them to become more docile...

But this one? It has your precious water. You creep closer and it freezes up. You've always been good with animals- how should you approach this one?

>Keep it calm and approach softly
>Dash at it to scare it away
>Throw a stone and kill it
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I don't think approaching it softly will work. It's a wild animal. Maybe the introduction for the nut thief's has some clue, but i'd say our best chance is just getting it to run away.
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>>5390453
>>Keep it calm and approach softly
Get mauled to death
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>>5390456
You know nut thieves are tiny squirrel animals, right?
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>>5390461
It's a joke about cats being able killing commoners in 3.5e. Even though Akule wouldn't be a commoner.
It's an old meme, and kind of unrelated, but it came to my mind when I voted.
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>>5390453
>>Keep it calm and approach softly
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>>5390453
>Keep it calm and approach softly
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>>5390453
>Keep it calm and approach softly
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>>5390453
>Keep it calm and approach softly

...Also, Nut-Theives aren't domesticated yet? Huh. I'd assumed the Jaxtians had them for a good long while since they'd become a pet species - so, which species of this age DO the Jaxtians currently keep as pets?
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>>5390453
>Keep it calm and approach softly
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>>5390453
>Keep it calm and approach softly
>>5390552
I would imagine it's a matter of tamed =/= domesticated. Cats aren't domesticated but some are still pets. It would also explain why Akule noted that this Nut-Thief is a wild.
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>>5390453
>Throw a stone and kill it

Its just a squirrel.
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>>5390676
>Cats aren't domesticated
Cats have been selectively bred and altered from their wild state by close proximity to humans, including sometimes for specific characteristics and with our conscious and concerted effort. They're very domesticated.

But yeah, otherwise you're probably right. Nut-thieves at this point in the timeline may be more like the fancy, captive-bred skunks and semi-domesticated foxes in our world.
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>>5390453
>Keep it calm and approach softly
Don’t worry little one, I ain’t gonna bite.

Getting another pet would be low-key kino.

>>5389981
Better than tortured and starving, like irl socialism.
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>>5389905
The giga alphas also suffer from ultra roid rage. Their mental stability and intelligence aren't going to be the best until further improvements are made. Keep in mind they are currently first and second gens. Not enough time for eugenics programs to really work out the kinks on them yet. Notice how the older alphas weren't bothered by that stuff? Sure their smaller, weaker, and older but much more stable in temperament.

>>5390453
>Keep it calm and approach softly
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>>5391015
I think you’re right, but I also think that older alphas in general are probably more stable, so the difference is not that extreme.
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>>5390453
>Keep it calm and approach softly
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You attempt to approach the small creature. Softly. You lean down and avoid eye contact, holding out your hand for a sniff.

”It's alright little one, I'm not going to hurt you. Let me just take that back...”

Even as you draw closer and closer, the creature doesn't move, just standing there and looking at you with it's doll-like black eyes. Eventually, your feet scuff some dirt on the way up to the creature and it leans down to bite your water pouch... before running away with it.

”Hey! Stop! That's mine!”

Keeping up to its species namesake- they like to steal things- it stole your waterskin. Even if you attempted to chase it and are careful enough to keep your footing, there is no telling how much distance you'd lose and if you could even follow it. Within a few mere seconds it has run into a stony reach and then disappears among the crags- no doubt stashing its new find in its nest. It's gone.

What possibly convinced you of trying to reason with a wild animal? You honestly and truly believe that Mainlanders, like yourself, are the closest of all the races when it comes to nature. Other races brutalize and chase away animals, or even worse torturing them for traditional medicines, while the Centralia government spends billions on green energy projects to avoid upsetting their ecosystems... corrupt as they are. But it shows moreso the culture behind it. Of course, it is only now how stupid you feel thinking that would somehow translate to this animal obeying your wishes; do you honestly think it evolved to trust blue fur of your hue over any other? Stupid.

The sun has past its apex in the sky and the day only gets hotter. The stones around you have absorbed so much heat that they are radiating up at you like an oven. You feel positively cooked. You're sweating like an Eater and its not getting any better without fresh water to drink. They called this an ordeal for a reason- worse yet, there is no shade on this mountain. No trees. You can't take much cover here- and you realize soon that your nose is no longer wet, and you've stopped sweating. That's bad.
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As you climb on, you begin to feel the lingering sensation of doubt. Why are you even here? Why did you even agree to do this? And worst of all... why didn't you try and cheat?

After all, you know the truth about the world. Times like this make you understand it all the more well. The only thing that matters in this world is power. Nothing else. Agreeing to some ridiculous trial like this was a totally pointless endeavor- and even worse- the fact you didn't even try to cheat. You could have just waited at the base of the mountain and pretended like you got there first while Brun comes back down. You could have brought some extra water, or anything- not actually abiding by the rules. He said so himself; no outside judges would know. There are no Gods at all, so why are you obeying some pointless tradition?

The truth of the world is that power is all that matters. Political power, physical, sexual, and monetary- money translates to power well in this world, but it is only one facet. The only thing that matters is ones on position and personal happiness. Not some absurd notion of honor and fairness, not your country, not even people in your life. They are meaningless pawns. You see through the lies and puppet-strings of the moralists and religious and familial connections. By all means, pretend to care for others, but only to stab them in the back. Do the bare minimum to keep in contact with your parents so you can assure their inheritance money, and then stick them in a nursing home. This is the way everyone else acts in the world- all of the billionaires and petty criminals- all of them only care for themselves. They only care for number one, why shouldn't you?

It is utterly foolish of you not to live and die by these own principles- the principles the ugly, physical world has taught you time and time again through its scientific laws and political realities. The strong can use their strength to remain strong and get stronger- you must simply become strong and consume all others in your path. This is the way you should be living, and you aren't. Like a fucking dumbass- ouch, here comes the cramps.

You're feeling especially philosophical now. Where should you focus it?

>Inwards
>Outwards
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>>5391170
waaaaa waaaaa waaaaa waaaa -Akule

>Outwards
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>>5391170
>Inwards
Maybe it's time to reflect and grow a little? Akule's becoming (in some ways) a better person. Let's begin to rationalize that, crystalize it into actual personal growth.
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>>5391169
It may have been stupid, but I still consider it the correct decision, even if it is irrelevant.

>>5391170
>If it help us move up the mountain, outwards. If that’s irrelevant, inwards.
I’m not certain what is being asked of us here. If it’s about focusing our effort right here and now, we should use it to finish the trial. If it doesn’t matter to the trial at hand, I’d prefer our philosophical ramblings to be directed inward. Maybe we can achieve a brief moment of lucidity, where the world’s not at fault for his problems, but really he’s his own worst enemy. It may not matter, but I would like that.

Also, fucking hell Akule. What did your mother do to you if that’s how you view family relationships as?
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>>5391170
>Outwards
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>>5391191
I think we can conclude that Akule was not given a lot of love as a child.
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>>5391169
> truly believe that Mainlanders, like yourself, are the closest of all the races when it comes to nature.

……..???????
The racism escalates.

>Inwards

Akule, you were literally adopted by the Blondes and decided to stay with them. Where the hell is this coming from?

Are you having sun stroke or something?
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>>5391220
>Where the hell is this coming from?

Anon... He's clearly been a racist for years. We are all privvy to his internal monologue, so we've SEEN where this is coming from. We all watched him lose his shit because a small, dark man owned a fancy car he's too poor to buy and slaveringly fantasize over exterminating his entire ethnic group... A thing we all know he will almost certainly do.

His tolerance (or reverence) for Blondes is entirely because he's gotten to know and appreciate them personally, and because he festishizes certain aspects of their culture. If Akule is Hitler-esque, then his attitude to towards the Blondes is... Like Hitler deciding Japanese count as 'honorary Aryans' because he liked the cut of their jib, or that Sioux were effectively Aryan because he liked Karl May's Winnetou books growing up. He's just making a conditional exception, not necessarily for entirely rational reasons, in an otherwise xenophobic and hateful worldview.

Honestly, considering he thinks all minorities (except Blondes) are shitty and bad in various ways, that Mainlander women are all a bunch of worthless whores, and that Mainlander men are corrupted, brainwashed slaves who should have no duty even to one another or their family... He's a less a racist than a total and absolute misanthrope, who just hates minorities and foreigners SLIGHTLY more.
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>>5391234
I’m just shocked at his sudden sperging against the entire concept of family and loyalty, when it seemed like he at least appreciated his adopted family.
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>>5391170
>Inwards
Akule needs to understand himself before he can hope to overcome his trials.
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>>5391170
>Outwards

What a sad dude but yeah, the culture he came from messed him up. How much love did he experience?
He doesn't understand that honor is members of honor groups enforcing their shared values on each other in order to keep standards high and preserve culture and order.
Even rational egoists understand that playing nice with the people you are close to brings a greater benefit than just using people.
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Just caught up w/ the quest and I gotta say BananasQM has written a fine work of transgressive literature worthy of study. If I was a polisci prof, I'd make my students read Supreme Space Monke ruler quest!!
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>>5391170
>Inwards
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I fucking told you idiots that approaching him gently was stupid
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>>5391170
>Outwards

It’s not our fault - it’s society’s!
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>>5391170
>Inwards
Maybe he should stop coping and start acting
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>>5391170
>Inwards

You're a hypocritical piece of Trash, Akule. Stop blaming everyone else for the fact you're a cunt and take some damn personal responsibility for once.
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>>5391234
I’d argue Hitler had more of a character arc than Akule. Hitler was a commie before he became a Nazi after all.

Approaching Akule as a misanthrope does make certain sense though, and exploring why would’ve been more interesting.
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>>5391170
>>Inwards
Its time to Expand the Racism!
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>>5390812
Tell that to medicare, medicaid, social security, the interstate highway system, food stamps, WIC, and the countless industries propped up by government subsidies. Holy shit this really IS the political containment thread .
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You know what? Fuck it I, think pivoting and leaning INTO making Akule a piece of shit we can enjoy ragging on was a good salvage move

>Inward
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>>5391541
All of which is bloated and failing, but at least it isn’t Venezuelan tier failure.

>>5391550
Turning Akule into a cartoon villain is a failure in storytelling. If there’s nothing we respect about the entity we’re playing as, it does nothing but harm the integrity of the quest. It’s like playing as Darth Jar Jar, people will stop beginning to care.
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>>5391588
>nothing we respect
I mean, he's nice to animals, he's a quick study, and he eventually develops a dictatorial panache.
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>>5391275
I think it's a moment of self-reflection and self-pity, as well as a chance for the character to either pivot away from utter doomerism or further INTO it and away from this tentative loyalty he's been showing to the Anak family and their tribe.
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>>5391592
He’s a raging autistic racist who’s unemployment policy is literally genocide, I can’t see him as the successful tyrant that’s he’s destined to become.

>>5391596
It would be amusing for Akule to have a spirit journey on this Native Reservation. Like, he pulls some sort of anti-theist Moses rebirth after three days of starving on the mountain.
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>>5391618
Kek
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Wow. So much hate for Akule but really I like him. As much as he emotes and angsts, his actions speak much louder. He knows the world is fucked, he knows he's fucked up from being fed bs his whole life, he knows the blondes are pretty cool, and he's questioning his deeply held beliefs and assumptions and searching for truth.
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>>5391674
It's just your usual tirade of retards, like in every thread. Anyone who unironically uses the word "incel" should have their opinions immediately ignored.
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>>5391170
>Outwards
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>>5391702
This is true. Bunker trannies have a lot of time on their hands.
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>>5391674
>he's questioning his deeply held beliefs and assumptions and searching for truth
That’s the only questionable thing in your post, but the thread isn’t done yet, and hell, maybe this vote will get him to question his beliefs.

You know, I wouldn’t mind seeing the Great Danbo Tree in the Sky again from the top of this mountain.
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>>5391674
He's a bit of a doomer retard but it makes sense why he is one right now and how he will become the Unspeakable.
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>>5391170
>Inwards


>>5391702
Spoken like an incel lmao.
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>>5391588
We already crossed that hill. It's like The Room or Mother. The Quest already failed at making Akule a compelling villain protag. So now we go camp , full on "Diary of a Supreme Gentleman."
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This one is taking a lot longer then normal. Sorry.
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>>5392370
It’s fine Bananas.
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>>5392344
I’m just gonna ignore you suggesting we make this quest intentionally campy and cartoonish. That is not a solution.
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>>5392370
Writing for Akule sounds hard.
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>>5392643
I would guess it's the art
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>>5392613
Not cartoonist but shifting Akule to a Cartman style "Character you love to hate" as opposed to a Light Yagami style "villain protagonist"
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>>5392836
This seems pretty subjective. >>5391702 is seemingly wrong about how many voters actually both like and agree with Akule, but there ARE many that do, or who are at least neutral towards him. I'm one of them, insofar as while I don't agree with him, I think he's a fine enough character and not that off-base for who and what we know he'd become.

My issues are with quest structure and a decreased sense of adjacency. Making Akule a more deliberately-hatable guy we root against wouldn't help. The last few votes seem to be moving in a direction I enjoy, though!
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>>5392836
Uhhh, I’d rather have the Light Yagami style in the quest rather than a doomer Cartman desu bro

>>5392869
I think focusing our efforts on shit we can control, like introspection and a character arc, would be a nice change of pace
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>>5392869
I agree, I personally have found Akule to be plenty compelling. Maybe seeing the Hegemony's proto-ideology stewing in a nihilist zoomer's head has turned off the people that already viewed its tenets as an unspeakable abomination. There's no use catering to these people because they view Akule as fundamentally Wrong and any character traits or redeeming factors are irrelevant because he is Wrong and therefore Bad. And we haven't even seen the story here start to reach fruition. It's pathetic.
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>>5392892
>we haven't even seen the story here start to reach fruition
We're on Page 7. If it hasn't even started to reach fruition, and if this is intended to be a one-shot like Boys and Girls and considering the overall reception I'd be surprised if it wasn't, that means there's a massive pacing problem.
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>>5392901
>and considering the overall reception
A few autists who dislike the hegemony being angry that akule isn't wholesome keanu chungus 100?
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>>5392920
How does that change what i said? Bananas said that when the retards started complaining about akule being an 'meanie incel racist zoomer doomer buzzword'
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>>5392929
You don't have to agree with the criticism to acknowledge that Bananas does, and that therefore there's probably not gonna be a sequel to this one-shot (or it'll be radically different if there is).
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Just because you have trouble udnerstanding the words doesn't make them buzzwords. The things people said about Akule were all pretty accurate and applicable. He is openly a racist, he seems to have been involuntarily celibate (or at least unpopular with the "whore" women back home, who he resents), and he's a doomer (because he literally seems to mirror the directionless nihilism associated with people of that substrata in real life).

I do admit I don't get why people in this quest are surprised by his personality, or consider it a breaking point considering how many brutal and not-infrequently-bigoted dictators we've played as at this point.

I think some players' inability to separate emotionally in this sidequest has more to do with a lack of cool, fun distractions to help take their mind off of it, and the relative peeling-back of the sci-fi fantasticism to reveal the much more mundane root of that ideology. We aren't debating whether or not we should genocide hermaphoroditic space-weevils to build extrasolar colonies now; we're sitting inside the brain of a depressed, angry twenty-something while he throws a tizzy about how not-Blacks are STILL whining about slavery even though HE'S the REAL slave, and the players can neither vote to change his mind nor to take his mind off of it and go do other things. We can only wait for a not-South Asian to drive through town and decide how brutally we accost him.
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>>5392938
I think the leadership challenge, and the crystallization of his philosophy and mission during it, will probably be a pretty big deal character-wise. BQM is a good writer. I think he'll pull it together organically for an impactful conclusion yet.
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>>5392892
I think that’s the problem people have, it’s less a character introspection on how he came to adopt his views and more of a platform to express the views via ranting. I think a character exploration/arc would be more interesting.

>>5392938
I would be alright if this was 2-3 parts, it would fix the pacing issues. If that was what Bananas intended instead of a oneshot, he should outright stated it is read of implying it was going to be a oneshot like Boys&Girls.
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>>5392942
>Just because you have trouble udnerstanding the words doesn't make them buzzwords.
It's "buzzword" because they're stupid. Incel is a stupid term.
>A lack of cool, fun distractions to help take their mind off of it
Is discovering about the origins of the hegemony and the state of old jaxt not enough distraction? The boys and girls side quest was a railroad from beginning to end, quite literally, but people are surprised when a sequel doesn't really have a lot of choices? You can't just choose akule to not be racist, or else he wouldn't become the genocidal hegemon.

Like, i agree that the metaphors are way too direct and obvious, but it's hardly the first time. Only now that the thin metaphor is about stuff they don't like that certain people seem to complain.

Also, stop using images, i keep thinking the updates are finally here and i keep getting disappointed
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>>5392942
>the players can neither vote to change his mind nor to take his mind off of it and go do other things
Isn’t this the lack of agency the Agori hater’s where whining on about?
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>>5392957
>stated it instead* of implying it
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>>5392958
>You can't just choose akule to not be racist, or else he wouldn't become the genocidal hegemon.
You could choose when it happens, not if. Him being the same character beginning to end make him as flat a character as day old soda.
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>>5392962
It's different, innit? Akule *has* to be racist because he *has* to genocide the other races. Otherwise, it turns into some sort of weird alternate universe.

Agori just straight up ignored many choices because of his psychosis, but at least we got to stab him in the end.
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>>5392958
>It's "buzzword" because they're stupid. Incel is a stupid term.
Sure, we can just call him a misogynist loner who couldn't get laid. This is also true.

>Is discovering about the origins of the hegemony and the state of old jaxt not enough distraction?
Not really, or people would be having fewer discussions like this and more discussions about the future and their plans for what to do next.

>You can't just choose akule to not be racist, or else he wouldn't become the genocidal hegemon.
True, but some people seem to have expected or wanted a subversion (it would have been kind of neat, I guess) or a chance to direct exactly how he got to that point (also would have been cool). Instead, we're mostly passive observers, just like Akule is a passive participant. his ability to affect society is limited right now, and our ability to affect him is limited, so it makes sense some people feel divorced and alienated from events.


>Also, stop using images
Pic related.

>>5392962
>Isn’t this the lack of agency the Agori hater’s where whining on about?
I didn't hate Agori but, yeah, that's part of the reason some people got tired of playing as him.
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>>5392946
Yeah I don't think it's impossible to wrap /this/ thread up nicely. I was just saying that 1) there's no way we're getting to the dictator stuff in one thread (which I assume is what 'fruition' meant), and 2) I find it unlikely there will be more than one thread, for reasons addressed.


>>5392942
> I don't get why people in this quest are surprised by his personality
I haven't seen people be surprised, really, just annoyed.

>or consider it a breaking point considering how many brutal and not-infrequently-bigoted dictators we've played as at this point.
Because it's exactly what you said, it's cool and fun to play as a space dictator and it's not cool and fun to play as a powerless whiny doomer, even if they're exactly the same amount of morally reprehensible. Is this an obvious point Bananas is making? Does this expose con/qst/adors as complicit hypocrites? Yeah, sure, duh. Art(tm). But it doesn't change the fact that the most people play quests to have fun, not to have artistic statements made at them, and it sure seems like a lot of people are not having fun. And this is supposing that this thread was supposed to be making statements in the first place, if it was purely intended to be a neat prequel romp then I have no idea what the hell Bananas was thinking

>>5392957
I agree that he should've told people.

>>5392958
>Is discovering about the origins of the hegemony and the state of old jaxt not enough distraction?
Not really. It's literally just a 1:1. Funny the first time, boring and expected the dozenth.
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>>5392973
Isn’t that what Talcent did as well? I remember the Hazzar Genocide vote being ignored as well. Seems it’s less different, I think.

>>5392980
Maybe that’s the core problem again, feeling a lack of agency in meaningful choices. Maybe if the choice felt like mattered to the story at hand more, people would be more invested (or distracted, if you think that’s the problem).

For myself, I’m still hoping the bird we saved plays a bigger roll than characterizing Akule as a naturephile.
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>>5392980
>This is also true
And? It doesn't make calling him incel any less stupid.
>Not really
Obviously, if the same old retards keep complaining then there'll be less discussion.

Personally, i like seeing the blonde society and akule interacting with them outside his rants. When he's not rambling about doom, he's a pretty funny straight man.
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>>5392980
Thinking about it actually, it’s starting to remind me of ‘Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead’. It gives the same vibe, being self aware passive observers who could act but inevitably don’t and end up dying because of it.

I never expected those English Literature Lesson to come up in my life again.
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>>5392990
>And? It doesn't make calling him incel any less stupid.
I mean, it does, because the word is being used in its proper context. it's not my fault or anyone else's that you dislike the word on principle and get triggered by its usage regardless of relevance or accuracy.

>Personally, i like seeing the blonde society and akule interacting with them outside his rants.
Agreed! The glimpse of pre-Hegemonic Jaxt is pretty neat. I think this sidequest has a lot to recommend it. it maybe would have benefited from a more flexible viewpoint character, thoguh, ro just being a short story.
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>>5392986
>Does this expose con/qst/adors as complicit hypocrites?
I though it was just to have fun. I would’ve love to continue that innocent 4x scientist of the first Supreme desu.
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Shut up, unironically. I'm not going to read you arguing about THIS of all things.
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>>5393023
>Am I on the right track?
Who fucking cares? We're talking about monkeys, nominally. Stop being a huamn Akule.
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>>5393027
K
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>>5393027
Hey man just wanna say I'm still enjoying the thread and this peak back into what started the Hegemony. I'm sorry these vocal retards are making you think this was a bad thread and can't just enjoy the monkey dystopia that Akule created based on eugenics.
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>>5393028
You will never stop me from being a real huamn.
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>>5393027
I’m enjoying the thread; it is interesting to see where it all began.
The double whammy of people saying we should like Akule, and people actually agreeing with Akule (!), throws me off, but that has nothing to do with the quality of your writing.
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>>5393045
But Bananas can, and will, and did.

>>5393027
Based.
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>>5393058
Anon I... deleted my own reply because I was shitting up the board with a post that was only going to lead to more arguements, politics, and whining.

BananasQM, I'm sorry.
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>>5392958
>The boys and girls side quest was a railroad from beginning to end, quite literally

On the contrary, we could EASILY have gotten Hwat killed at various points of Boys and Girls, there were options to stage a coup with Anak that we didn't take, a conspiracy we might not have uncovered. For Kima, we had multiple choices to pick what she would do with her life - trying to become the supreme herself was an option the playerbase voted for, not one that Bananas forced us on. Even if Kima's candidacy would never have made it in the end, there were other events and actions within the quest we most certainly got to choose - the time and way we flunked out was entirely our own decision, for one thing. If Bananas hadn't stated that there was no way to get there off his own back we'd never have known those plans behind the scene, but just accepted the failure we'd chosen.

So, no. It wasn't a railroad.
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>>5393229
It's cool man.
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While you climb the holy mountain; your thoughts drifting back towards yourself. Away from the world. It's times like this that your normal defense mechanisms fall away. It's time to take a long hard look at yourself- or so they say. You spit on the stupid tradition that brought you out here, you curse on the animal that took your water, and you feel the pain in your arms and legs as though they are the fault of the stone beneath you, but none of that is true.

The truth? You've always been a fucking loser.

You remember the times as a child; the frequent spells of loneliness- learning and living for oneself. Little family, few friends. The constant need for escape; escape into fictional worlds or even worse, scenarios one imagines. Too quiet, reserved, and “independent” to ever seek true solutions for your own problems. Did you confront your bullies? Did you ever take a stab at solving the things about the world you didn't like with your own labor and mind? No- you imagined them away. Relegated them to your control in your blissful imagination. You got many times more revenge against your oppressors by imagining yourself defeating them, over and over, physically or mentally. You played games and wrote stories where you, or later, a thinly veiled allegory for yourself managed to take over the world. You had many women in your imagination as well- never one for real. Nothing you've ever done amounted to much of anything, did it? An imagined life isn't a real life. An imagined victory isn't a real victory. You never mastered any skills, you only imagined yourselves mastering them, and then, proceed to live the rest of your life without any true conviction, no true effort, permanently crippled by your own volition.

Truth be told, looking inwards, all you see is the illusions you've built up over your life. “I could be a great man, if only I had the right opportunities”. Or I could just “work hard when I'm older”, then it will all work out then. My REAL life and REAL self isn't here yet. I'm just a kid after all. I never had true independence yet. The game was rigged from the start. It's not my fault. I didn't grow up in the right economic time. It's not my fault, my parents divorced. Yeah, so did half of all Centralian couples with children. Guess you're all just useless now, huh? Why aren't they so tormented and useless too like you are? You can't even manage to get a career valuable enough own a home or attract a woman to breed with- something animals and criminals can do. You are a joke.
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There are only really two realities- two possibilities. There is the reality where one's own circumstances are out of their control, and the one where it is not. You are either built by your experiences, your genes, your sex, your family, your economic status- or you are not. You can't have it both ways. People want to believe it is both; a convenient way for them to blame all hardship and weakness they have on things out of their control, while getting to claim all their victories as solely their own- they worked for it. They learned it. But their addiction? Their inability to trust others? Their rudeness and short attention span? It wasn't my fault. But it is your fault- if you have the will to change it, to modify oneself, then everything is ultimately your own damn fault because you haven't stopped doing it yet. Can you control yourself, can you master your own base impulses, or can you not? It's one or the other, not both.
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I wanted to be great. I wanted to become someone valuable, powerful, useful, desired, loved. Not loved for who I was, not freely, not the way a beautiful woman or a clever child is, but from the sum of my actions. The sum of my masculine impulse to provide value and be of becoming instead of being. I wanted to straddle puberty and look out into the world and say “I am a part of this and I deserve to be a part of this”.

To be valued. As a man, to be sexually powerful. To be economically powerful. To receive a firm handshake and the nod of approval, or at least the look of adoration present on every father's face when their son achieves some great thing they wished they had. I've never had that feeling, and I never will.

Awwww waahhh wahh you never LEARNED how to be a real man. Nobody ever taught you how to learn, nobody ever gave you that helping hand that let you make yourself into yourself- but ohhh not that way, not the way other people get their free hand out that invalidates all the effort they put in. At least, according to you. You're such a faggot. I'm tired of hearing you complain. All I do is complain- and I'm my own worst critic. So I stop complaining. I turn it off. I'd rather wallow in oblivion- animal quiet- as opposed to listen to my own hyper critical voice in my own mind. I can only imagine everyone else has no such voice- or they do and they are equally miserable. Equally cuckolded by the modernized industrial system that makes one believe they are powerless. Powerless or powerful, irrelevant. Real men blow the shit out of themselves with bomb vests for fake Gods. You can call it stupid and a pointless endeavor, not even scratching a dent in the institutions, visible and invisible, that they are battling- but you yourself wish you were so brass and so bold as to take violent revenge on those who harmed you. Maybe your standards are just too damn high, did you consider that?

Oh look at me, I'm Akule, a pure blooded “Mainlander”, better and superior then every other shitty race of shitty bipedal monkey. Look at me. My pelt is so blue and my nostrils are just the right shape- the genetics of the great master race. Look at what my people have accomplished- and which of those things did you accomplish? You hate the world they created and yet you're proud of them. You want it both ways again, you stupid fuck.
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Other people have achieved more with worse circumstances. One cannot blame their circumstances for their misery if others with objectively worse circumstances have done better then you. Unless you're actually SO pathetic that you believe that drivel. “Oh well, that person had to cut their leg off because they had diabetes, so they got that wake up call they really needed to get healthy!” or “oh that person comes from a shitty war torn country, that's why they work so hard and got into an aeronautics facility and made millions of dollars!” Aww, poor widdle Akuwle who was so comfortable for his whole damn life he never “woke up”. You'll never wake up you stupid faggot. You know you need to do SOMETHING and you won't do it. You already KNOW better. You are not a Master of anything, you are MASTERED. Not a controller, but CONTROLLED. You reap what you sow.

Maybe I do hate the world. Maybe I think this world is bad. Maybe I think the traditional values of the time may be the wisdom we see now. Maybe I think those in charge have bad intentions, or maybe they are just dumb. Of course- only your own unparalleled arrogance could make you actually believe such nonsense. Why would you, a dumbfuck nobody teenager, actually think they know better then the collage educated hyper rich elite such geniuses who are trusted and scrutinized by everyone in the actual communities who run this shit? Science, morality, art, law enforcement, civic planning, racial politics, governance. All of them are just... wrong? Always wrong? And you're always right? It's like you know that's not true, but you can't actually accept it or say it out load, or else you'll die from the thermonuclear humiliation of the years of your own arrogance of being so smugly confident in your own abilities. Your own abilities of... imagination?

You wouldn't say your suicidal, but the times when you imagine the earth reaching up to swallow you? Yeah, you feel that. Sometimes, the best you feel is when you are totally depersonalized, your own mind wandering from your own choking ego and instead filtering through pure perception- the universal connection that makes you feel as though, yes, I do know what I'm talking about. You feel like you do in those moments, but you can't say you do. The moment you do, the spell is broken, and you have to remember the dumb little clueless hypocrite who said it is you.

Somewhere during all that nonsense- you think you've reached the top. Hey, wait a second... is that...
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Okay, now you're sure you are hallucinating.
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King. Warrior. Magician. Lover.

He speaks, and the world listens. Always hungry.

Chauvinist. Lady Killer. Penetrator. Predator. Meat-Eater. Doer. Judge. Crafstman. Boss. Terrorist. Scientist. Builder. Rapist. Destroyer. Archpriest. Enslaver. Philospher. President. Killer. Authority. Racist. Law-Enforcer. School Shooter. Winner.

Hylic? That's what I am. You blame me? Do you see any deep meaning, any philosophical koans written in the bonds between my atoms? There isn't anything else to aspire to be.

Would I be like you? I want to.
Could I be like you? ...I could.
Should I-
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”Akule?”
”Aaah!”

Suddenly, you find Brun standing over you. You almost forgot the whole point of why you came out here- this... race to the top. It seems like you got here first.

”Are you alright? You look... fried.”

And then you see it- the waterskin on his waist. He still has some water in it- you can practically smell it. You want to ask for it so bad but... would that show weakness? Can you afford to show weakness?

>Ask for his water
>Say nothing
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>>5393375
>Say nothing
We shouldn't be weak!
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>>5393373
That's a pretty cool image.
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>the elite are right because the elite said they are right
that's pretty fucking pathetic
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>>5393375
>Say nothing
Enjoy your psychospiritual experience Akule.
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>>5392880
I would to, but that's not what BQM gave us
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>>5392942
Exactly, he went from Darth Vader to Eliot Rogers. People tend to be cool with really fucked up guys in fiction (think of Tyrion Lannister for example) But him being a whiny punk makes it all less entertaining and there fire highlights his character flaws in ways that aren't compelling.
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>ask for the water
Shows character growth
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>>5393375
>Ask for his water
"...Yeah, I did fry myself a bit, Brun. Not sure what I was thinking."


If he says no, he says no. But refusing to ask for water we need isn't manly, just... stupid.
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>>5393375
>Say nothing

The first of many sacrifices on the altar to
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>>5393375
>Ask for his water
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>>5393375
>Ask for his water

We are brothers
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>>5393375
>Ask for his water
Even the strong get thirsty. This is called an ordeal after all.
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>>5393375
>Ask for his water

Accepting your weakness and failings and trying to rectify them is what a real MAN would do
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>>5393375
>Ask for water

>>5393373
Neato image
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>>5393375
>ask for the water
Best case: We get water, worst case: he says no.
Saying nothing? Best case, he gives us water out of pity and seeing us melt away in a barely conscious state. Worst case, we pass out.
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"Brun... can I please have your water? If you have any left. Please spare some for me."
"Oh- you lost yours? Or drank it all? You got up here so fast- you must learn to pace yourself on an ordeal. It is not something that you can rush- it is meant to cut your teeth. Oh, here."
"Thank you, Brun."

With that, you take the water and drink deep. It doesn't matter it is lightly warm- both from the fading day and Brun's own body heat, it is the most delicious water you have ever tasted.

Days after your ordeal, you have fully recovered, but you are not the same as before. Every moment now you feel is something that must be spent with purpose and intention.

You return to Zaj and ask him to show you the finer points of pottery once again- all under your own initiative. You speak to the blonde warriors and see how they strip, prepare, and arm their weapons- something the army only taught you in the most vague sense- as though your rock solid logistics will simply always be there in all situations. While your scientific knowledge from your schooling is certainly higher then the blondes- they have a certain scrapiness to them- most of their cars are half a century old, with new parts constantly being made and retrofitted from the old. To learn such mechanical skill is to know the value in ones own hands- even if such skills are ultimately pointless to ones eventual goal.

Others have noticed.

"Akule, you seem... different."

You are doing calisthenics- you made it your mission to not spend a single moment at rest unless you are sleeping.

"Different? I don't feel any different. Care to explain how?"
"I'm not sure. You certainly don't talk as much though."
"I can get more out of listening."
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After the ordeal, Brun and yourself are subject to yet more scrutiny by your adoptive father. Simply put, this is about succession.

It seems neither of them expected you to actually come out on top in your ordeal. Brun seemed to keep the fact you nearly passed out and died on the way up there to himself; a fact you appreciate. But you did reach the top of the mountain first.

"I wish to do things between both my sons fairly. Both the eldest and the younger. The ordeal shows that Akule is stronger-"
"Hmph. Just overly tall..."
"-And it is pointless to perform the test of the minds. Akule does not know any scripture or the names and commandants of the Gods- Brun would win easily."

Zaj looks at you, as if expecting you to finish his train of thought. Your fingers pass to your waist.

"He seems to know, Brun. The final challenge between you two- the duel! Of course, the succession of the tribe's leader will be my choice- but I wish to do things fairly. Whichever of you wins this duel... I will make them the leader of the Golden Hand."

As you take up your position, Brun looks confident.

"You won't beat me Akule. Surrender now!"
"Not a chance."

He's right, of course, even with your newfound determination, Brun has a lifetime of practice that you don't have. You have the advantage of size and strength- and he has his willpower. You can't beat him, at least not as you are.

>Accept your loss to Brun
>Give yourself that last little push
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>>5394338
>Give yourself that last little push
It seems stoopid to surrender, no? The point is testing the strength.
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>>5394338
>Give yourself that last little push
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>>5394338
>Give yourself that last little push
We’ll lose, but we’ll at least provide him a challenge!
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>>5394338
>>Give yourself that last little push
Never give up
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>>5394338
>Give yourself that last little push
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>>5394338
>Give yourself that last little push
Brun will be the reason there are traitor-specific knives in the future, won't he?
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>>5394402
No? We already have those. Black Knives are specifically unsanitary knives made for enemies. Furthermore, Brun isn't going to betray us, because the Anak bloodline survives all the way until modern times - and it can't just be Akule, because the Naonae Bloodline is *also* alive.

Since akule has no family and brun has no brothers/sisters, it stands to reason he won't betray us.
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>>5394338
>Give yourself that last little push

We'll still lose, of course, but Brun can't just walk to the throne upon concessions. For his sake and the tribes, he needs to be seen to win this - and we need to provide at least something of a challenge for him.
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>>5394338
>Give yourself that last little push
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>>5394423
Depends when he betrays us, if he does. If he's already had kids by that point, it's possible Akule might still respect him and his father enough not to castrate all their heirs.
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>>5394447
Given his track record, that seems unlikely
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>>5394338
I do wonder if the test if minds would be an interesting mini game where we have to apply what we earned about Blonde philosophy a series of moral challenges
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>>5394466
That was pre Hollywood style vision quest
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>>5394338
>Give yourself that last little push
Based doomer --> improover Akule

>>5394564
I assume the guy means his future track record (as seen in the flash forwards).
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*hits blunt* What if the twist is that this Akule goes down a different path and this is actually a Star Trek Mirror universe type of situation.

And that sets us up for the next installment of the main series by having a Mirror Universe vs Main Universe conflict.

Think about it, why have a prequel now? Boys and Girls directly tied into the next episode and actually cut back and forth between it in the timeline.

Doing the "Federation vs Evil Universe" story where the "good" universe is the Invasion force would be an interesting twist on a well trod sci Fi concept.
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>>5394699
That sounds extremely cringeworthy
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>>5394699
-1
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>>5394699
Who let the DC writer in the thread?
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>>5394699
Get better cannibis.
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>>5394699
>everyone hated that
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kys
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>>5394338
>Give yourself that last little push
C'mon Akule. It doesn't matter if you can do it... IT MATTERS THAT YOU TRY! COME ON AKULE! FIGHT HIM! CUT YOUR BROHTER, SPILL HIS BLOOD AND ROAR HIS NAME!

>>5394699
...the fuck? I would sooner piss in a cup and drink it than subject BananasQM to this nonsense.
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>>5394338
>>Give yourself that last little push
GO APE.

>>5394699
no thanks I think having BananasQM do a fucking 4th wall break would be more tolerable than multiverse dumbshit.
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>>5394699
I mean this thread will probably tie into a future one at some point somehow.

I wouldn’t be shocked if there’s some sort of big reveal at the end that the Hegemony has Akule’s DNA preserved for cloning or has his body frozen in a vault somewhere. We’ll probably find something out about his fate that recontexualizes some lore idk
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You have trouble explaining exactly what you're doing- but you need a little boost. Something to give you the competitive edge; the tiniest push to overcome your natural hesitation, your weakness. Brun and Zuj accept this; nothing you can do here can let you cheat at this.

Taking a cloth, you cut holes in the fabric before placing it over your head; and your little push is complete; a mask.

”Ooh, trying to intimidate me, huh?”

You don't say anything. You don't want to ruin the illusion. The mask is meaningless here- both of them know who you are and know your face underneath the mask; it isn't to protect your identity. Its purely psychological. You try not to overthink it, as you know it is a placebo. But within that moment, you feel like your self is one step further removed from your actions- your body moves without its normal painful self-awareness that plagues your everyday. The logical and instinctual parts of your brain can function more easily without the emotive and sentimental making you second guess yourself.

The truth is; since your day on the mountain, your beliefs have not actually changed. You know the same things are true- it is simply ones approach to them that is different. The only thing that matters in this world is power. This is a physical, ugly world, filled with competition and traitors. Everyone's life and positions exist only balanced on a razor's edge.
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Through this, you can see the truth in belief. Everyone believes in things, even things that are not true. They are lies and assumptions. Every thing- money, the nation-state, the concept of race and sex- all are social constructs. Not in the way the deviant homosexual revisionists believe it to be, but in the sense of the reaction to the underlying physical reality.

We cannot control what we are, or the rules of this physical universe. Each person exists not as a whole and encompassed being but only a set of biological systems and social connections, each which could be cut away or destroyed or built up wholly again. The rich man is not rich inherently, defining himself as separate from a plebeian, but is only “rich” due to the numbers on a page everyone agrees he is owed. If one simply takes that way from him, he has nothing else but his body. Then, he is no different from an animal.

The truth is that before your day on the mountain, you don't think your mind extended beyond these illusions. You did hate the capitalism that you perceived as destroying your culture and people, but you didn't hate it truly as much as you hated your own lowly status within it. You never truly hated Durza, you just wanted to be him- with his money and respect and hot wife. You guess on some level you knew, or believed you knew, that you would never achieve the same level so you were bitter and angry. That is a hard truth to swallow, but you have move past that now.

You still believe there is something truly wrong with the world. You don't know what, but something about this world is twisted. Before, you would rail against it and cry about it harming you, where as now, you know that the only true choice one has is to work against it.

With a quick sidestep, you exploit an opening left to you and disarm Brun. You've won.

”A-Akule!? I can't believe it. You won! Don't you feel happy?”
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To tell you the truth, you don't feel anything at all.

Continues later
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Holy shit.
I’ve only gotten the opportunity to read the last few updates now, and my respect for Akule has increased ten fold.
Absolute masterpiece of character development, well worth the slow beginning.

Also.. that’s your brother! Whot!
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..What?
..Why?

That doesn't even make any sense. And how the hell is he supposed to be dead if there's still an anak bloodline, as well as an naonae? If he suddenly decided he hates his brother enough to kill him for no fucking reason, then he would have no reason to just...i don't know, give his name to some other random person.

He has no children, so that can't be it, and since Naonae are known to be his descendants, it's not like he became an anak and gave someone else the naonae name.

This is just..retarded. Is it supposed to be some ebin subversion? He suddenly decides to murder him because 'le edge'?
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>>5395721
The fuck do you mean, character development? This is character obliteration
>and then he became le epically edgy murderman that stabs people for no reason lol xd
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>>5395732
Despite myself my estimation of Akule as the main character had risen greatly before the revelation at the very end in which he killed his brother, so I’m going to wait until the next update before being bewildered by it. I assume there’s a reason here.
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>>5395747
I struggle to see a scenario that could explain this in an satisfying way

It just looks like edge for the sake of edge regardless of previous characterization or story. Its agori all over again, except agori had the excuse of being bipolar since his first ever appearance
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I figured this was gonna happen, what with the ‘Unspeakable’ betrayal stuff and all, but I was hoping to be wrong. Shame, I really liked Brun, and I was hoping to keep that relationship pure on our end. I guess just wasn’t meant to be.
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>>5395719
...Huh.
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>>5395732
Akule said at one point that he doesn't think that Zaj would actually choose him even if he did better than Brun, maybe that's why he's killing him?
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>>5395908
How would killing a brother who accepted his victory make it any more likely for him to win? Akule is not stupid.
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>>5395719
Okay I take back the improover stuff.
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>>5395719
worst update in the history of /qst/
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>>5395719
Is this because we picked the "didn't feel anything" about the assassination? Wtf
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>>5395921
>Akule is not stupid.
Maybe that's the big twist, that he was stupid all along
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>>5395947
You DO NOT have 9892 basedjaks
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>>5395947
Came a bit out of left field and I'm not sure how I feel about this, but Akule snapping and committing acts of terrible violence seems very appropriate. Just... Maybe not THIS act.

>>5395965
BQM, where you going with this?
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>>5395719
Damn, I wasthinking he was gonna push Brun off the mountain but this is just blatant. Like he's making a point by openly killing Brun.

He'll come to regret killing Brun, though, for sure.
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>>5395955
That doesn't make sense either, because he managed to create an government that lasted for thousands of years.

I mean fuck, the Hegemony's symbol is basically the symbol of the golden hand, but now this whole thing is fucked for literally no fucking reason. He literally already won. Brun had already accepted his victory.

There was *literally no benefit for doing this*. Literally zero benefit.
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>>5395955
Remember, all that’s needed to solve unemployment is GENOCIDE

>>5396069
I already regret my vote, we should’ve just accepted Brun as the leader and noped outta the contest.

>>5396205
Actually, there’s massive detriments to this. Akule just royally fucked himself.
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>>5396205
Irl a lot of leaders of powerful governments have been pretty incompetent

But really the prequel comparisons are getting depoer.

Odds BQM makes it a fake out?
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>>5394699
>The actual update winds up being almost as hated as this.

Like poetry.
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>>5396332
>Irl a lot of leaders of powerful governments have been pretty incompetent
Not the *founders* of those governments.
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>>5396336
I mean, yes, sometimes. Not to get all "IRL politics", but depending how you feel about someone like Mao, he might count. He has many defenders, but plenty of people consider him incompetent and consider Deng to have salvaged his shitshow.

Getting away from specific IRL examples, it's entirely possible to have a sort of dodgy founder as long as he had charisma and competent lieutenants and immediate successors invested in his value as a propaganda tool.

Keep in mind Akule seems to have come to power right after a nuclear holocaust, when there might have been a derth of surviving, competent, charismatic leaders.
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“B-Brun!? NOOO! Akule- What, what have you done! Why?!”

”Don't play me for a fool, Zaj. You know why. You took me prisoner. I am escaping.”

“No! What- I took you in as my own, traitor!”

”You only took me in because you knew Brun would never give you a grandson. Your family name would end with him; that was the only reason you were desperate enough to adopt me, a foreigner. You were too ashamed of him to take in anyone else. You let your guard down, and now I have the upper hand.”

“W-what! I was going to p-put you in charge of the Golden Hand. You would be the leader of the blondes. You would be our pride!”

”You are a fool. I don't care about the blondes. I don't care about your religious cult. The blondes are a blip. This was all calculated. There is no one else in the building- no one can hear you. Nobody will stop me when I leave the camp alone in a truck loaded up with the Anak family's gold. I will return to Centralia with a story. How I was so clever to gain the trust of my captors and betray them; all of my culture's heroes are “clever” like that. I'll become famous there; the lone soldier who defeated the most infamous and feared terrorists in the world- the leader and his heir. I'll whine about my newfound PTSD to get a big pension, and work my way into becoming a general. Get the ear of the right people. You were merely a stepping stone.”

“You... you cared about us. You loved Brun, I know you did. How can you do this?”

”I never cared about you or your faggot son.”

“Liar! I will not sit here while my son hides behind a mask and hurls insults at me!”

”I am not your- get away from me-!”
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“...”

“Akule... why? Why betray us? Your life was here. You could have had happiness here. You could have wielded the Golden Hand as an instrument of peace and justice. Please speak to me.”

”...This is not a world for honorable men. Men like Brun don't belong here. The moment you would become a real threat to the system, it would destroy you. One computer-guided missile and so ends your entire organization. There is already talk of ending the amnesty and blonde-reservation after I killed Durza Ampa. How many rich young Durzas do you think it would take until what is wrong with the world is right again? How many rapists? How many greedy bankers? I wasn't born to sit here with among strangers and live out my days, with my head in the sand, while the rest of my kind decay into what they are now. But honor and justice can't fix it... only force. Only power. This is a whore's world, and I intend to fuck it like one- with both of my knives.”

“...It's too late now... I cannot possibly stop you. With Brun's death, you are the greatest knife fighter in the world, and I am but an old man. But there is one more thing I will teach you...”
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“This is your mark now. The most blasphemous, unspeakable of all- the Mark of the Kinslayer. Feel the blood seep into your soul. Even when you wash it away; it will always be there. You betrayed us, and nothing you ever do can wash that clean.”

”...You are a beautiful people. I won't let you go into that darkness. I will always be a Mainlander, I cannot change that, but I won't forget what you've done for me when I bring the flame that purifies the world.”

You take Zuj closer. He winces as you press the bloody knife against his chest.

“...I thought you were a blessing, when the Gods brought you to me. You would take my name- and continue my line... Not end it.”

”I will. But each blessing you receive, is also a curse...”
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Many years later in Centralia's highest military command base, you come across two other generals, examining their knives.

”Look here, the handle is made of whale bone- with gold engraving.”
“Woah! I thought the whales went extinct in the wild from ocean acidification!”
”They did- but in captivity- some contraband can slip through. All depends on who you know- Hey, General Naonae! Oh- want a smoke?”
”No thanks. I prefer to control my habits, as opposed to the other way 'round.”
”We were just talking about our knives.”
“Mine's handle is made of real leather. It looks pretty nice, doesn't it?”
”Mhmm- now hold on, I think we should be thanking you, General Naonae. Wasn't it your suggestion to congress to allow such traditional and obsolete weapons to be worn ornamentally? And here you are, wearing two... and yet despite that... I mean, come on.”
”Hmm?”
”Look at them! Where is the style- don't take this the wrong way, General, but where is your sense of fashion? Where is the glamour!? What are they made of?!”
”Carbon steel.”
“Is that... black and white spray paint?!”
”Haha- I mean, isn't it ironic that the man who suggested it is shown up by his colleagues?! I mean no offense, General Naonae, but was that really your intention? Or is it to show some kind of humility- was that your intent for them?”

You smile.

”No, General Garastra. They are intended to be used.”
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Thank you for playing this Space Monke Quest sidequest! While I'm not especially proud of this thread, I do hope you found some enjoyment in this prequel to the rise of Akule the Unspeakable and the Hegemony.

Really quick, I'd like to take a moment to explain my thought process and also apologize for the (admittedly) poor timing of this sidequest. Essentially my original idea for this "Unspeakble" story was for it to be like a special "easter egg" or secret installment of Monke Quest- something you got to play if and when someone from the thread correctly deduced Akule's family lineage. The original plan was to sprinkle little clues here and there, in relation to Maktana and of Akule's origin being a big mystery that would take several threads for someone to piece the clues together. Unfortunately, due to one bonus image I posted, it revealed this "secret" way too early. As such, I was put into the position of either doing the sidequest next after Part 6, or putting it off when it would be less relevant to the overall discussion. I realize now that doing the sidequest first was a big mistake. Checking the archives, I realize it has now been six real world months since we made our last Supreme change- and as someone in the QTG Discord put very well- it's basically been 3 "experimental" threads in a row, with B&G, Chapter 6, and this thread all with very slow form and character driven narratives instead of the larger scope and faster timescale of the mainline civ threads. I didn't realize quite how long this thread would take either, and fully planned to knock it out in two or three weeks, but then felt I wasn't giving players enough choice- but the filler choices weren't very meaningful anyway! It wasn't very well planned compared to my other threads, and for that I feel it fell pretty short. Out of all the threads I think this one was the most frustrating and boring to run too, especially at the end.

I will be eschewing the tradition of answering or asking questions at the end of the thread to take some time off instead. I hope this thread's poor reception didn't scare too many veteren players away- as I'd kind of like to start fresh with Chapter 7 and put all this behind us. Hopefully a return to form and finally fucking finishing the Yuan'Tul plotline will breathe some new life into the thread.

But anyways, thanks again for playing and I hope to see you again soon.
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>brun was actually gay
Excuse yourseld to the fujoposters!
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>>5397363
I don't think that it was really bad, most of the bad reaction was probably caused by early Akule being a doomer in a setting similar to IRL so the politics were more polarizing than usual and Brun being killed in a clifhanger when people couldn't think of a rational why he did it.

My favorite moment was his hallucination.
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That was a disappointing ending, honestly. He just randomly decides to kill Brun because something something world sux, we never get to find out about the nuclear holocaust or how the hegemony actually came to be, and the clone thing is weird

I mean, how the hell did they make a clone back then? We didn't have that kind of technology when we started, we had to find out Indigos - i mean, we literally had to find out an specific technology that allowed us to make fully independent clones, as opposed to simple children in different mother

It feels like a big cop-out, in all honesty
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>>5397373
>Couldn't think
This was hardly rational, either. By no means did he need to kill Brun. Fuck, if he wanted to keep them alive that much, he could have easily just coerced him into staying hidden instead of continuing his terroristic stuff.

Like, there was literally zero reason to kill him. If anything, this was worse, because now someone ELSE would take over when the old man died, someone who could have decided to continue the terrorist activities.

It's literally the most retarded decision he could have done
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>>5397363
I enjoyed some of it, especially Brun, Zuko, and the lore bits, but this has tainted my perception of Akule to the point that I’m rethinking my civil war vote. I think you should’ve leaned into the relationships more, and eased up on Akule’s political monologues. This was supposed to be an exploration of the man behind the mask, not his political beliefs. Thank you for explaining your thoughts on this, it does clear up a lot, and don’t feel pressured about rushing, I do enjoy your more character focused, experimental threads, I just want you to do want you want and be happy about it, k?

If you ever want to do an experimental side quest, I would love an alt-history where Akule doesn’t kill Brun and becomes the leader of the Golden Hand. Not only would that solve some of the ‘meaningful choices’ issues, but I think it would be low key kino to really explore the characters, relationships, and the settings of pre-Hegemony. I’d love to revisit all this again, if it isn’t too much of an inconvenience Bananas.
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>>5397363
I enjoyed some of it, especially Brun, Zuj, and the lore bits, but this has tainted my perception of Akule to the point that I’m rethinking my civil war vote. I think you should’ve leaned into the relationships more, and eased up on Akule’s political monologues. This was supposed to be an exploration of the man behind the mask, not his political beliefs. Thank you for explaining your thoughts on this, it does clear up a lot, and don’t feel pressured about rushing, I do enjoy your more character focused, experimental threads, I just want you to do want you want and be happy about it, k?

If you ever want to do an experimental side quest, I would love an alt-history where Akule doesn’t kill Brun and becomes the leader of the Golden Hand. Not only would that solve some of the ‘meaningful choices’ issues, but I think it would be low key kino to really explore the characters, relationships, and the settings of pre-Hegemony. I’d love to revisit all this again, if it isn’t too much of an inconvenience Bananas.
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>>5397397
>>5397398
I didn’t mean to doublepost, I meant to fix an autocorrect and ended up being unable to delete neither the original or the new post. Sorry about that lads.
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>>5397397
I too enjoyed Zuko
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>>5397363
Thank you for running, even if it didn't end up quite as fun as the others. Sorry for making that Akule deduction and stating it so bluntly, I hadn't realised what problems that would cause.

>>5397376
Would certainly have made sense if the Anaks just continued through the line of a cousin or something.
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>>5397419
>Sorry for making that Akule deduction and stating it so bluntly, I hadn't realised what problems that would cause.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GEStsLJZhzo
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Archive Link- https://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/2022/5371032/
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>>5397363
I think it was a solid enough character and story, but elwould have perhaps been better as a traditional, non-interactice story. You're a good artist and writer!
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>>5397474
You know, it's pretty funny that in the reconquista you had a mainlander bloodline that became blonde teaching blonde culture to a blonde bloodline that became mainlander.
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>>5397363
He cloned Brun. In the end Akule felt regret. I wonder if he wrote that blonde song.
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>>5397548
That makes a lot of sense
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>>5397548
What was that song again?
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>>5397712
https://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/2022/5284677/

Ask him to play. Perhaps the resemblence is a cooincidence.
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>>5397474
I thought we let a Baltimian live?
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>>5397996
Yes, one of them. The brother, i believe
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So, what the fuck was the nuclear holocaust after all?

I was waiting for it all thread, but we never got the answer.
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>>5398539
Well, from what I can put together, Akule and some Generals from other prominent bloodlines in the future issed an ultimatum to the governments of thr world and started dropping nukes, assuming 1 a day(5 days of terror or something it eas called), until they complied. Probably meant killing a bunch of bloodline billionaires and politicians and unconditional surrender from all nations.
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>>5398690
Is it? I mean, the nuclear holocaust apparently left jaxtians so afraid of nukes that they would have genocided the swalli if they owned nukes.
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>>5398728
Honestly? I’m afraid so. Masked!Akule would be the only monke willing to use nukes to advance his genocidal agenda, all he really needs is access to the codes and weapons infrastructure.

I was really hoping for a Punished!Akule, fully gone Mad Max after the Cuban Missile Crisis took a sour turn. Hell, I half expected Bananas to go full on GoldenHand!Akule with an Alive!Brun, and at the end of an ancient traditional crowning ceremony have the nukes go off in the background. It would’ve been a nice twist to end this off on.
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>>5399131
Yeah, see, i know that akule would be *willing* to do it, but it would be weird that he'd nuke everyone *and then* basically make nukes a cardinal sin in their uclture.
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>>5399210
He may not have imposed a ban on nukes or encouraged the monkes to think of them as a taboo; rather, the horrors of the armageddon he wrought may have simply resulted in their culture naturally coming to abhor them. Perhaps the Hegemony even obfuscated his responsibility for the apocalypse, pinning he responsibility of the decadent old world. Akule isn't above utilizing brutality, lies, and manipulations to gain and hold power, obviously.

>>5397366
>tfw your buddy ditches you at the Christmas party to chase tail
>tfw when you're like "well, I get it, pussy has that effect"
>tfw he was chasing dudes, and just didn't even think you were attractive enough to hit on
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>>5399218
Akule isn't an idiot, and he wouldn't just nuke up everything for no real point. As we've seen, he likes his genocides up and personal.

A nuclear holocaust makes it sound like an actual DEFCON 1 state with a giant nuclear exchange
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>>5399131
"The Valley of the Blondes is yours, Akule, but I'm keeping the helicopter!"
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>>5371032
This thread has lived up to its title
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>>5399218
>tfw he was chasing dudes, and just didn't even think you were attractive enough to hit on
Motherfucker!

>>5399228
>pic related
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>>5399131
The quest would be far better if all those were options available based on our votes. Being a prequel didn't mean it had to be on rails, there are like a dozen different ways Akule could have become the Unspeakable
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>>5399678
Imagine Brun getting hit with a lethal dose of radiation, and Akule has the chose of either killing his brother or letting him suffer. Imagine if the Unspeakable part came unbidden to his mind, constantly haunting him until he decides to wear the title. Akule gets a front row experience the Nuclear Holocaust upfront along with the failure of corrupt democracies to prevent all of this, fueling his rage against the multipolar broken world.

It’s like a sandbox, we have to abide by the main barriers (Nuclear Holocaust, two surviving races, etc), but we could largely play with how it all connects together. There was a lot of freedom in a vague history.
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FORGED BY HOLOCAUST,
TAKE BACK WHAT WE LOST,
WHITE KNIFE TO KILL A WAYWARD FRIEND
BLACK KNIFE, HONORED FOE TO END
MASK OF DEATH, INVINCIBLE!
AKULE- THE UNSPEAKABLE!
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>>5400136
It certainly makes this whole thing look more dramatic than it actually was
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>>5400136
Wonder what the dots above the eyeholes represent?
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>They still haven't noticed
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>>5400578
>We notice a detail you, sparking you to be upset that you had to do this side story before you wanted to
>We don't notice this other detail, and now you are upset about it
Do you want us to notice things or not?
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>>5397357
Hmm the generals uniforms are different... so its either different branches or kind of a UN situation.
They are in Congress with these knives, Akule kills them all or holds them hostage to seize control of the nukes?
Garastra is there so he is either in on it and playing dumb or decides to go along with it?
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>>5400578
I honestly don’t want to reread this sidequest, but I’m willing to if you promise that this isn’t just you trolling like with the Watchman!Akule stuff.
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>>5400821
What was Watchman Akule?

Also since Brun actually was gay was there any option to vote on where it would come more into play?

Like for example if we went to that party.
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>>5401154
Watchman!Akule was when we had the option to go to the party and didn’t take it for fear of killing the messenger. Would’ve liked to have partied, fucking Brun literally blue balled us.
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>>5400578
The newscast background with the blinded redmane had the symbol for the Golden Hand on it. A hand with a triangle inside with a circle at each point.

Minus the hand... that's the symbol of the Hegemonic government.

Did Akule mend fences with the Golden Hand, did he assume leadership despite killing Brun and his father, or did he just rip off the symbol?
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So unironically when do you want the next thread?
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>>5401963
Right now
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>>5401963
12 hours from now
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>>5401963
Literally as early as possible
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>>5401963
You have 5 minutes
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>>5400578
Did a quick recap, and the only thing I could think of is the Bird leaving us only to come back in a hallucination, and the three circles on top of one anther meaning something else that’s significant. That, and all of our duty focus votes led to a loss of another potential relationship (the rapist vs the bird, the messenger vs party, etc). I do hope this isn’t another party troll Bananas.
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What's with the monkey gayfaggotry I keep hearing about in QTG?
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>>5402048
Protag of the quest was adopted by a mountain noble savage terrorist leader because his biological son is gay.
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>>5402058
How did his faggot son affect his decision
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>>5401963
How about December 1st? Would give you some time.
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>>5402063
Read the quest. Find out.
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Well, if whales went extinct due to ocean acidification then runaway global warming due to sublimation of seabed methane was not far behind. The asteroid shield might not have happened without the Hegemony it could have spelled doom for Jaxt.
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>>5400578
The bit about how Cinan has his twin-tipped tail and brainpain because of faulty cloning?
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>>5403575
Perhaps how the blonde epic song was of a brother killing his brother, and here adopted brother killed brother?

Or is it connected to what Cijan said about his preferences in a mate?
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>>5403575
Twin-tails wasn’t genetic mate.

>>5405453
Is Cijan gay? Too bad, we need that Ubermench baby.

It would be an IC justification for why Cijan was so irrational as to be willing to give up that millennia advanced tech for a two monke’s lives though.
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>>5405467
>Twin-tails wasn’t genetic mate.
But his headaches and hyperintelligence may be.
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>>5405467
>This completely unrelated monkey was called a faggot
>Ergo that means the descendant of his thousands of years down the line is
What the actual fuck are you on

Genuinely cease your faggotry
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>>5405493
Calm yourself, friend. We're just trying to puzzle out the answer to >>5400578. We know from >>5397363 that there were lasting genetic issues in the Anak line, so the idea that some of Cijan's oddness could be related to this revelation, or his being descended from a clone of Brun, makes some sense. Maybe, genetic issues being on the table, he inherited a "gay gene" which the Hegemony would otherwise have eradicated?
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Maybe the immortality machine would overwrite the gay gene?

Also, the Hedgemony used to gaurantee people a meaningful career like the blondes had warriors learn a trade BUT now they have people doing easy meaningless VR busywork as a way to earn welfarebux. What's up with that?
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>>5405493
I wasn’t on the gay!Brun train, I just want to figure out the puzzle of >>5400578.
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>>5405517
It’s the people themselves that’s the problem. There only so much you can force a person to advance themselves or put in effort to to better things in life.
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>>5405519
They could create entertainment but... it would be an unacceptable competitor to the Hedgemony propaganda apparatus.
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>>5405498
>Gay gene
>In a bloodline millenia long
That's not how it works you stupid retard
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>>5405555
Whales still have toe bones. It could happen.
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>>5405518
Think that one through again, but slowly.

An bloodline...but gay. Think real hard about what doesn't make sense here, anon. Just try.
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>>5405560
"Toe bones" don't stop you from reproducing
>But they could have done it!
Every single one of them, across hundreds of generations? To the point they became an powerful hegemon family and even then there was nothing about it

Consider throwing your fujogoggles in the garbage
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>>5405555
Stop being a cunt.

>>5405561
>>5405563
In real life, certain genes are believed to correlate to homosexual behaviour. The same could well be true for alien blue monkes from a fictional unievrse.

>but how would it be inherited??!

It could be recessive or environmentally-activated, cropping up only periodically across generations, under correct conditions. It could be partial or incomplete, causing homosexual behaviour but still allowing for bisexuality, thus facilitating offspring. Or maybe it just encourages DEVIANT behaviour, not always gay or even sexual?

Or, as a powerful bloodline with a lot to lose, the gay dudes could just suck it up, take one for the team, and impregnate a female spouse anyway, just like noblemen who liked dick did IRL.

>ur just a faggot lol

This could all be wrong. I don't actually think the big twist is likely to be "Cijan is gay" so much as it's likely to be related to his headaches, twin tails, and other oddities. But do some research, use some imagination, and stop being a belligerent jackass.
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>>5405573
It's a millenia old bloodline in an geneticist society with big brother tier surveilance and very strict rules, stop trying to push yet another mindbogglingly retarded theory that makes absolutely no fucking sense taken from some badly interpreted comment
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>>5405576
It's okay that you don't understand genetics and/or are bad at reading, anon.

>It's a millenia old bloodline in an geneticist society with big brother tier surveilance and very strict rules

If ANY genetic abnormalities survived in the Anak (which IS the case, since they're KNOWN to be "genetically unstable", as per >>5397474), something as innocuous as a recessive "gay gene" could easily survive. One family line producing a male with unconventional sexual urges isn't a huge deal, especially if it's only every few generations, they produce heirs either way, they don't always act on their urges, and their bloodline ALSO produces "consistent excellence" (which is ALSO explicitly the case).

They probably get extra leniency considering the bloodline was literally revived under DIRECT orders from Akule the Unspeakable, in spite of his EXPLICIT understanding that the founding male for the bloodline was gay and that his heirs would be genetically-abnormal in a variety of ways. With that history, their otherwise-stellar performance, and keeping in mind that we KNOW the Supremes and social elites have gotten away with corruption and skirting the rules of society in the past... You really think occasionally producing a homosexual would be enough on its own to outweigh the rest and to get the Anaks returned to oblivion?

Cijan Anak and his relatives probably have WAY weirder and more interesting peculiarities than occasionally making out the same sex or whatever the fuck, IF that's even a thing. The big brother eugenicist surveillance state EXPLICITLY tolerated this from the moment of their revival.
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Its just a theory.

A gay theory.
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Just noticed the bomb under the vehicle in the OP thread pic.

Also, Cijan and Akule look a lot alike in the face, right?
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>>5405591
I feel like you're not understanding it, here, this is an society that manages to nearly wipe out a good majority of genetic diseases, lasted for millenia, your entire theory is literally
>this guy was once called a faggot, ergo his clone's descendant several thousand years ago is gay

The drift alone over the generations would have ensured this 'gene' would be extremely unlikely to survive
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Cijan considers himself a traditionalist in love that ironically doesn't even like Blondes.
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I appreciate you all continuing the thread.

In relation to what I was referencing; it was just a minor easter egg related to Akule's portrait.

>>5405517
>>5405519
>>5405530
The Hegemony guarantees people the right to meaningful careers. VR work testing and idiot-proofing machines is meaningful, as is being a waiter, a day servant to a powerful family, or a laborer performing basic work- it's all necessary and required for society to function. It just isn't very glamorous.

>>5405688
Cijan is supposed to look like Brun, yeah. The straight edged ears. Sadly I have a bit of sameface because Akule's original design was a bit more distinctive.
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>>5405762
The Anak line has remained genetically unstable for millenia, across generations, all due to the initial imperfection in the cloning process. Going to go out on a limb and say that whether the damagedor deviant genes are related to gayness or migraineness, or something else, the Hegemony did a poor job of cleaning up that bloodline.

>>5405792
Was the easter egg that those two generals he was soeaking to are the ones he killed and was posed above for his official portrait?
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>>5405803
>Was the easter egg that those two generals he was soeaking to are the ones he killed and was posed above for his official portrait?
One of those generals is an Garastra, so why would he have killed him?
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>>5405808
We don't know that EVERY member of the Garastra family was okay with the coup.
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>>5405811
Yes, but he's specifically an general, and the garastra are supposed to be basically the most 'standard' supreme ruler family

So it would be weird if he killed the one garastra with power (general) and the others were left alone to become powerful
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>>5405812
Families can be large and sprawling. Even if you kill General Garastra and his sons and daughters and wife, his cousin Resirix Garastra or his second cousin Venric Garastra might be heading their own branches of the family through which the name continues.
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>>5405812
If the rest were willing to play ball, and were smart, strong, and well-bred, why not?
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>>5405812
Perhaps it was less of a sneak attack and more of a duel.



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