"Yes, Rider, I'm fine... I just stubbed my toe on a shelf," you quickly lied to the Servant, not wanting to arouse any suspicion, even from her. Shinji... or you suppose, you, had asked the woman to remain guard directly outside of your room, apparently not wanting her watching him as he slept.

"I see," the disinterested woman quickly accepted your excuse before going back to guarding the door in silence... you looked into Shinji's memories, you didn't know exactly when the grail war was meant to begin, but it was a Wednesday, the date itself was... January 28th 2004... damn it, they don't have smartphones back in this era, do they?

Lack of smartphones aside, you immediately started to piece together what you could remember about Fate/Stay Night to try to survive the coming days... Sakura had only just summoned Rider yesterday, so you were too late to try to interfere with the ritual to get a different Servant, not that you thought you'd be able to get anybody who'd be useful, and especially not with your apparently non-existent magic circuits. Back to what really mattered, you started to think... if this truly was the world of Fate/Stay Night, the chances that Shinji Matou survives the grail war... were fairly minimal, there was only one ending in which you would survive, and you really didn't want to chance that. You really found yourself starting to regret that you never really delved all that deeply into the series... you'd only read the VN for Fate/Stay Night once, though you had read Hollow Ataraxia and regrettably watched almost all of the Fate anime that have been released over the years, though you had dropped a fair few of them one or two episodes in. Unfortunately all those other series were the opposite of helpful when all that mattered was what was going on right now. You still weren't really sure if this was a dream or not, but you really hoped that it was. It was that belief that let you act so... calmly. After all, something like this was just impossible, right?

You decided to put your doubts about if anything happening to you was even real aside and tried once more to think about what you knew about the current situation. If Sakura only summoned Rider yesterday though... you scratched your head... oh man, you really had no idea when anything was meant to happen in the grail war... when did Sakura summon Rider? You knew that she... probably summoned Rider before Rin summoned Archer... but when was that? It was a couple of days before Shirou summons Saber, right? You pondered to yourself as you sat on your bed, not sure about what sort of time frame you were working with here. You'd probably still have to go to school, you didn't want to start acting any different to normal... but... you knew that Rider wasn't anywhere near strong enough for you to have a chance against literally any of the other Servants in the war... so you'd probably need to try to align yourself with another of the Masters if you wanted any chance of surviving, but the question was just who you'd need to pursue...

>Shirou Emiya: Master of Saber (Artoria Pendragon)
>Rin Tohsaka: Master of Archer (EMIYA)
>Illyasviel von Einzbern: Master of Berserker (Heracles)
>Kuzuki Soichirou: Master of Caster (Medea of Colchis)
>Kirei Kotomine: Master of Archer (Gilgamesh)
>Someone else...?
>Do something else (What?)

Status Page for Rider


Class: Rider
Master: Shinji Matou
True Name: Medusa
Height: 172cm
Weight: 57kg
Alignment: Chaotic Good

Parameters:
Strength: D
Endurance: E
Agility: B
Magical Energy: B
Luck: D
NP: A+

Class Skills:

Riding: A+
This skill grants Rider the ability to ride any vehicle of creature with great skill, including Phantasmal and Divine beasts. However, this does not include the ability to ride Dragons.

Magic Resistance: B
The skill grants Rider the ability to cancel spells with a chant below three verses that target her. Even if targeted by greater magecraft and Greater Rituals, it is difficult for Rider to be affected.

Personal Skills:

Divinity: E-
The last vestiges of one who used to be a goddess, a hopeless memory of a time long since passed.

Independent Action: C(C+)
It is possible for Rider to stay in the world for one day without a Master, however this time can be extended somewhat through the intake of human blood.

Monstrous Strength: B
This skill allows Rider to temporarily raise her Strength Parameter by a single Rank for a duration of 10 minutes.

Mystic Eyes: A+ (-)
Cybele, the Mystic Eyes of Petrification, unfortunately, due to Rider's limited supply of Magical Energy, this personal skill cannot be used.

Noble Phantasm:

Bellerophon: A+ (Anti-Army)
A shining gold bridle and whip that allows the user to fully control and empower a divine beast, used together with Pegasus, this Noble Phantasm becomes a tremendously devastating attack and can be used to cut down vast amounts of enemies at once.

Bloodfort Andromeda: B (Anti-Army)
A recreation of the conditions of Medusa's home during her continuing degradation, a series of magic circles can be set up around an area to have a terrible effect on targets within the perimeter, who are brutally melted down in order to further power Medusa.

Breaker Gorgon: ? (Anti-Unit)
Shinji's Thoughts: Shit, what does this one do again?

I guess nobody is interested, alright.

>>5321972

This is a slow board, fren-- give it time.
I know jack squat about Fate so I'm refraining from voting.

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>>5321972
This... is... splendid... writing. I... can... see... why... you... called... the... other... Fate... quest... mediocre...

I'm... voting... for... my... mastah (?)... waifu (?)...
>Illyasviel von Einzbern: Master of Berserker (Heracles)

>>5321988
I called it mediocre because I disliked the general plot of that story and it didn't appeal to me.
Just a matter of personal taste where I was excited to see a new Fate Quest but was quickly let down.

>>5321918
>Shirou Emiya: Master of Saber (Artoria Pendragon

>>5321918
>Rin Tohsaka: Master of Archer (EMIYA)

>>5321988
This guys a known retard who namefags don’t count his votes. It’s encourages his behavior.

>>5321918
>Shirou Emiya: Master of Saber (Artoria Pendragon)

>>5321982
Want a tl;dr? Or do you have any specific questions? This opening is really not newbie friendly.

>>5321982
>>5322046
I can provide some information that the MC has about the characters if you want.

>>5322046
>>5322053

Sure, a small explanation would suffice.

>>5322054
Of the 5 supplied options, there's...
>Shirou Emiya: Shinji's best friend and an amateur magus who can become pretty damn strong with some decent guidance, he's not summoned his Servant yet but this can be resolved fairly easily.
>Rin Tohsaka: A powerful young magus and heir to the Tohsaka family of magi, she's fairly haughty but she's a good friend if you manage to get on her good side. Unfortunately she does hate Shinji. May or may not currenty have Archer.
>Illyasviel von Einzbern: A homonculus girl trapped in a body that is younger than her true age, heir to the Einzbern family of magi. She is also the Lesser Grail, a crucial component of the Holy Grail War... however she is incredibly quick to resort to violence and has no relationship at all with Shinji. Currently has a Servant in the form of Berserker.
>Kuzuki Soichirou: A seemingly emotionless man who teaches classes at Shinji's high school, he is in fact an incredibly lethal assassin who won't hesitate to kill anyone considers a threat. His Servant is an immensely powerful magic user who is undyingly loyal to him and will basically do anything for him.
Kirei Kotomine: This guy is basically the worst person on the entire planet, and going to him for an alliance would only work out if he thought he could make you more miserable in doing so. His Servant isn't really his Servant at all because Gilgamesh does his own thing, but they are in contention for the most powerful Servant in the entire setting.

There's probably nobody else.

>>5321918
>>Rin Tohsaka: A powerful young magus and heir to the Tohsaka family of magi, she's fairly haughty but she's a good friend if you manage to get on her good side. Unfortunately she does hate Shinji. May or may not currenty have Archer.

>>5322062
Thanks man! Hope your quest takes off!

>>5321918
>Shirou Emiya: Master of Saber (Artoria Pendragon)

BRO SQUAD BRO SQUAD BRO SQUAD!

>>5321918
>Kuzuki Soichirou: Master of Caster (Medea of Colchis)

>>5321918
>Illyasviel von Einzbern: Master of Berserker (Heracles)

>>5321918
>Illyasviel von Einzbern: Master of Berserker (Heracles)

>>5321918
>>5322186
Well if nobody else is interested in Caster, I'll change my vote to

>Illyasviel von Einzbern: Master of Berserker (Heracles)

>>5321918
>Illyasviel von Einzbern: Master of Berserker (Heracles)
>>5322504
the thing is Kuzuki would be kinda hard to get as an ally

>>5322508
that's an understatement

>>5322508
And Illya isn't? What could we possibly tell her to get her to agree on an alliance while she's still in her psycho loli mode?

>>5322511
That's why I voted for Shirou

>>5322518
Yeah, same here. We can get Shirou to agree unless we really fuck up the conversation. Rin hates us and she'll say no, but at least nothing more will happen. Illya though? We'll be lucky if she doesn't order Berserker to cut us and Rider to pieces for annoying her.

>>5322521
And that's if we're lucky. There's a lot worse things that could happen than just death.

>>5322523
True, but she should have no reason to do those things to us unless we really, really annoy her. Shirou is the object of her hatred. She'll probably just kill us.

Though no, wait. These will still result in a dead end, just an even more horrific one. Assuming we have a Tiger Dojo, the worst thing that could happen is that she kills Rider and leaves us alive to continue without her.

>>5322525
If we do have a dojo, I hope Kariya's ghost is running it.

>>5322529
oh, that'd be fun

>>5322508
I dunno, Kuzuki and Caster aren't really the type to shoot down a potential alliance immediately, and with her plan to purify the grail, having another master on her side isn't a bad idea, and she'd be able to help with Rider's mana insufficiency so she'd actually be useful as a servant again.

>>5322537
Why Illya though?

>>5321918
>>Rin Tohsaka: Master of Archer (EMIYA)

>>5321918
>Shirou Emiya: Master of Saber (Artoria Pendragon)

>>5321918
>Shirou Emiya: Master of Saber (Artoria Pendragon)
Shirou is the safe bet, as almost anyone who's not a background character hates Shinji.

Illya
>>5321988
>>5322272
>>5322424
>>5322504
>>5322508

Shirou
>>5322002
>>5322046
>>5322074
>>5322760
>>5322829

>Rin
>>5322034
>>5322065
>>5322585

It's a tie between Shirou and Illya.

>>5322908
roll for it.

Rolled 1 (1d2)

Alright
Shirou = 1
Illya = 2

Master of THE SWORD it is then.

The journey to Shirou's house was uneventful... of course it would be, not only was it daytime right now, but the Holy Grail War hadn't even officially begun yet and wouldn't for at least a few days. Officially it wasn't really permitted for the Masters and Servants to start battling each other until the last of the Servants had been summoned in the interest of fairness. Of course, the rules in this war were pretty much irrelevant anyway, considering that the man who was meant to be moderating was actually participating using Gilgamesh and Lancer... Lancer... you thought about the blue spear man for a moment, feeling like you'd forgotten something but eventually dismissing the thought. You did remember however that Lancer was incredibly dangerous as an enemy... and like the rest of the Servants in the war, definitely not somebody that Medusa could face off against with her incredibly limited abilities.

Soon enough you were at the front door of your best friend, and after a brief moment of hesitation, you pressed the doorbell. You only had to wait about 20 seconds in total before Shirou came to the door, and he looked surprised to see you. "Shinji? What are you doing here? This... isn't about Sakura, is it?" You remembered that Shinji had a few 'discussions' with Shirou in the past about Sakura coming around his house all the time, before you were in control of his body, and his relationship with Shirou was actually not as good as it should've been as a result... not to mention all the other stuff that you didn't really want to think about with the archery club and... you shook your head.

"It's not about my sister, no." Well... it was, but she was only a part of the much bigger problem that the entire town was going to face... and with any luck she wouldn't become a problem at all. Regardless you couldn't exactly tell Shirou about just what was going on with Sakura behind the curtain... not just yet, anyway. "I need to talk to you about something that's very important."

Shirou sighed, looking behind him for a moment before turning back to you. "Alright, Shinji, but this had better not just be some waste of time again."

"Alright, well-"

>"You may not believe me, but let me tell you about this little thing called the Holy Grail War."
>"All of Fuyuki City might end up dying in the next couple of weeks unless you listen to me now. This is a matter of magecraft."
>"Did you know you have a step-sister? Kiritsugu never told you what happened to his daughter, did he?"
>"I'll get to the point, I want you to be my ally in the Holy Grail War.
>Say something else (What?)

>"All of Fuyuki City might end up dying in the next couple of weeks unless you listen to me now. This is a matter of magecraft."
lets make him understand the urgency of the situation

>>5323266
>+Support
Hopefully we remember that Bazett dies when we try to explain him the HGW and the servants in it.
I think it was Kirei who kills her? Of course who else but the fake priest

>>5323291
Also if not mutually exclusive squeeze in that Kerry had a daughter , after we discuss the HGW.

>>5323266
+1

>>5323246
>>5323291
This.
I lowkey want to fire a tactical nuke at Matou state, and by that I mean sending Saber to yell some EX...CALIBAH.

>>5323246
>>5323266
Support

>>5323499
We need to cure Sakura first though, and it will be tough.

>>5323506
We may cure her from Worms™, but nothing will save her from being cucked.

>>5323246
>All of Fuyuki City might end up dying in the next couple of weeks unless you listen to me now. This is a matter of magecraft."

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>>5323517
>Shirou, you need to fuck my sister.
>Impregnate her, Shirou

>...that you didn't really want to think about with the archery club...
lore chads, what happened there ? I dunno much about fate
>>5323266
>+1

>>5323246
>>5323291
>>5323315
+1 to this.

>>5322556
Ilya a cute.

>>5323579
I think Shirou had a shoulder injury, and Shinji took it as an opportunity to kick Shirou out of the archery club? It's been a while since I read it.

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>>5323579
>lore chads, what happened there ? I dunno much about fate
Shinji, the guy we isekai'd into, is a real asshole. He used to be better, though still kind of an asshole, and he and Shirou were good friends up till middle school (We are currently in our second year of high school). The key events that practically ended his friendship:
Both entered the Archery club in high school. Shirou was the top of the top, a real talent, with Shinji as one of the best but not exactly at his level. A year and a half ago Shirou was injured in his part-time job and took a pause from Archery. Shinji pushed him to quit entirely, saying that he'd be a bother, only because he was jealous of his friend being better than him at something. Shirou accepted and quit. This was the Archery thing.
After his injury, Shinji's adopted little sister, Sakura, began going to Shirou's home to help him. She did this because she was in love with him, though Shirou was too much of an oblivious retard to see it. Shinji repeatedly tried to forbid her from going there, which she vehemently resisted because of her love, and because her life is generally miserable outside of Shirou's house and her relationship with him. That was strike two.
Shirou eventually discovered that Shinji has been hitting Sakura. He confronted his friend, because he's a good guy like that, and Shinji was unapologetic and got beaten up. That pretty much ended the friendship
What Shirou still doesn't know, and our isekai dude is trying really, really hard to avoid thinking about, is that Shinji has also been raping his little sister for the past three years, and she has been tortured daily by our loving grandfather's worms for the past 11, since she was given to him by her.

>>5323613
>spoiler
since she was given to him by her father, Tokiomi Tohsaka, who chose to keep and train Rin as his heir.

>>5323613
It sure didn't help that Shinji's 'grandfather' is a worm ghost who holds a metaphorical gun to his head. Nobody wants to end up like Kariya.

>>5323634
Zouken does not give a shit about Shinji, has not given a shit about him for his entire life, and never encouraged him to do anything. That was all on Shinji. Besides, Shinji didn't know what happened to Kariya. Only Sakura saw him die.

>>5323642
Oh, I know he doesn't know how Kariya ended up dying. I was just trying to say that the fucker would have no problem killing him if it gave him the slightest advantage in achiving his goals.

>>5323266
+1

>>5323266
+1

>>5323642
Zouken is a manipulator, he'll never let Shinji out of his schemes.

"-all of Fuyuki City might end up dying in the next couple of weeks unless you listen to me now. This is a matter of magecraft," you said with a matter of fact tone in your voice, and a few seconds passed as Shirou just looked at you with stunned silence as he processed the information that he was being told.

"...huh?" the auburn haired boy sounded confused by your sudden revelation, but you just shook your head in annoyance at his apparent decision to try to feign ignorance about what you knew very well was the truth. Or more likely he just hadn't been expecting this from you, it's quite a lot to suddenly bring up out of nowhere after all.

"Don't play coy with me, Emiya. I'm well aware that you're a magus, even if you're not a very good one," well, he did have the potential to become a very good magus if he was taught... sort of. His abilities meant that he's only any good at one very specific type of magecraft, but to the point where his overspecialization in 'swords' was enough to cover any real weaknesses he might have. Unfortunately you weren't exactly going to be able to take advantage of this unless you could help him unlock his true potential in the next few days. "I'm talking about something called the Holy Grail War, it's a battle between seven factions that is fought every 50 or 60 years in Fuyuki City, but this one is early, the last one took place only ten years ago." You couldn't recall the exact number of years that it should take between wars but it didn't really matter, Shirou's shocked expression had already shifted to one of concern now.

"I... I guess you ought to come in," obviously there was no other outcome to telling Shirou about the Holy Grail War, even if he didn't like you at all, which right now with your rocky relationship that may well be the case, he'd have no choice but to listen to you. He was just that sort of person, he couldn't just stand idly by when the danger of everyone in the entire city was present. "I don't want Taiga or Sakura to overhear this... so could you just wait for me in my shed?" of course it was wise to keep Taiga out of the loop... and Sakura... you didn't want to see Sakura right now for the fear of seeing her and vomiting due to the actions taken with your body against her. So long as you tried to distract yourself, you'd be able to avoid thinking about those memories.

"Alright, but don't leave me waiting long, Emiya... and don't tell Sakura about any of this either. Not yet, anyway. I'll tell you why later," you didn't want to cause too much suspicion by using different terms of address for the people who knew Shinji before, even Shirou... you kind of doubted even he would have much time for you if you revealed that you weren't truly Shinji but some outsider who had been dragged out of your own comfortable NEET life in the real world and forced into the body of an ineffectual tertiary villain wakame bastard.

You quickly made your way through the corridor of Shirou's house until coming out into the garden and heading straight to the shed. Sakura was probably somewhere inside the house but she was likely in the dining room having breakfast or something. You didn't know how much attention that Zouken was paying through Sakura, but if he were to somehow find out you were plotting behind his back, you'd be absolutely fucked.

You coughed a little upon opening the door to the shed too widely and kicking up a pile of dust that had settled on some metal machine parts, even though Shirou was a fairly tidy person normally, the shed was filled to the brim with random bits of useless junk and whatever else he had found interesting. "Yeesh, some workshop you've got here," you found yourself judging Shirou's workshop quite harshly, even though you already knew exactly what it was like from prior knowledge... actually seeing it in person was a different story entirely.

While you waited for Shirou, you started to mess around and scan across the floor, looking for something in particular until you finally found the spot. "Ah-ha!" you pulled away most of a tarp that had been strewn onto the floor over a faded looking circle that had been carved into the ground. This... was what Shirou would eventually use to summon his Servant... sooner rather than later, you hoped.

After a few minutes had passed, Shirou entered the shed, looking fairly sheepish. "Sorry about that, Taiga needed to be convinced to let me go off and do my own thing, I sorta had to bribe her with my breakfast," Shirou gave an explanation as to his tardiness, and you nodded.

"That's fine. I was busy looking around your workshop..." You pointed at a washing machine that looked fairly spotless. "Projections, right? Or rather, you created them with your magic, is that correct?" You decided to flex a little bit with your knowledge, just to surprise Shirou a little more, and it seemed to work.

"That's... right, how did you know...? I thought that they were perfect copies." Shirou seemed shocked that you'd managed to see through the projections with so little difficulty, and you smirked.

"Call it a lucky guess, but that's not really what I'm here to talk with you about." You shrugged as you dismissed the topic, you knew that Shirou used projections because he had revealed it himself to you inadvertently within your memories, but that wasn't really something you wanted to reveal.

"Then, what are you here to talk about? Is that Grail War thing you were talking about real? I mean I guess you know about magecraft and stuff, but... how do you know about it, the war?" Shirou was right to be fairly mistrusting, because the Shinji of yesterday would only be reaching out to Shirou for his own gain, so it was only natural that you would receive this sort of reaction.

"How do I know about it...?"

>"Rider, please show yourself."
>"That's not important... but what is important is getting you to summon a Servant as quickly as possible."
>"My grandfather was aware of it... the Matou are actually a family of magi with centuries of history and set the war up over two hundred years ago."
>"You could say that everything I know about the war was revealed to me in an oneiric revelation... as was the fact that your father Kiritsugu fought in the war ten years ago... and that you're a target for his daughter."
>Say something else?

>Write-in: Confess you're "a spirit from the future" who deeply regrets Shinji's actions. Prove it by telling him things no one else should know. Tell him you regret Shinji's actions and you're here to repent. Although nothing will ever forgive what Shinji has done, you want to help him the best you can. Refuse to tell him the specifics regarding this subject. Finish the speech by telling him to take care of Sakura.

Let's take the OOC route

>>5324570
Vetoed.

>>5324572
Based

>"Rider, please show yourself."
>"That's not important... but what is important is getting you to summon a Servant as quickly as possible."

>>5324558
>"Rider, please show yourself."

>>5324558
>"Rider, please show yourself."

>>5324572
Based, I will now participate in your thread.
>>5324558
>"Rider, please show yourself."

>>5324558
>"My grandfather was aware of it... the Matou are actually a family of magi with centuries of history and set the war up over two hundred years ago."

>>5324558
>"Rider, please show yourself."
Here, have a look at a tall (for a jap) lady in a (vaguely) bdsm looking getup.

>>5324558
>"Rider, please show yourself."

>>5324558
>"Rider, please show yourself."

>>5324558
>"Rider, please show yourself."

Rider seemed to be stunned by your relatively in depth knowledge of the inner workings of the Holy Grail, clearly she'd written Shinji off as an idiot already, but you weren't Shinji. Or well, you were Shinji, but you were a better Shinji, and you'd succeed at life where he failed. Rider dematerialized once again without being asked too, clearly she had decided to take the some time to think on what you had said about the Holy Grail, and hopefully reconsider whatever her current opinion on you is... though you know it's probably not going to end up being great regardless of what happens.

"This is... a lot to take in," Shirou ran a hand through his hair as he attempted to make sense of everything that you had said so far, of course, he was never going to be able to follow along when you started talking about the workings of the grail, but it was quite admirable that he tried regardless.

"Just be glad I'm the one telling you about it and it's not somebody else. A lot of the other Servants and Masters have something of a kill on sight policy for opposing masters... and the collateral damage of the war can get pretty horrendous," once again you sighed. The fire a decade ago... that was a result of the final battle of the Holy Grail War... two Servants were battling to the death and it ended up going poorly when a wish on the Holy Grail... went out of control." It was a partial truth, but you didn't feel like telling Shirou what had actually happened either.

Shirou's face tensed up as he thought about the great Fuyuki fire, obviously still something he was affected heavily by considering that the fire was responsible for destroying his entire family and causing him to change his outlook on the world itself. "This... this grail war, I don't know what I can do to help, but if you're telling the truth, it can't just be allowed to go that way."

"Well, if you want to help me, you..."

>"...can start by trying to summon a Servant with this summoning circle."
>"...can tell me if there might be any places within this house where Kiritsugu hid something he didn't want found."
>"...can skip school with me today while we look for another of the Masters... it's your step-sister."
>"...can help me convince Rin Tohsaka at school to help us."
>Say something else. (What?)

>>5325258
>>"...can start by trying to summon a Servant with this summoning circle."

>>5325258
>"...can start by trying to summon a Servant with this summoning circle."

>>5325258
>"...can help me convince Rin Tohsaka at school to help us."
Rin doesn't even have Archer yet, she won't be too hard to convince with Shirou around. Trying to summon Saber this early won't work. Shirou doesn't have his command spells yet, his circuits haven't been activated properly yet and it's harder to summon servants earlier before the war. It won't work and it might ruin the summoning circle.

I'm gonna be out of town for the next few days on business, I'll try to give you guys updates but not sure if I'll be able to do any writing.

>>5325258
>"...can skip school with me today while we look for another of the Masters... it's your step-sister."

She's normally hanging out in the park during the day, so it should be safe to go and meet with her.

>>5325258
>>"...can help me convince Rin Tohsaka at school to help us."
This seems like the easiest hurdle to cross at the moment.

>>5325258
>"...can help me convince Rin Tohsaka at school to help us."

>>5325258
>"...can help me convince Rin Tohsaka at school to help us."
Bribing Rin with a Shirou, how clever.

I came in expecting to shit on you for being a mediocre copycat, but I can only harass you for the latter. Pleasantly surprised at how this has gone so far, even if you type like someone for whom English is a second language. I hope you can rein in anons and squash namefags better than WhatIs (who's probably lurking, hi, you humongous faglord) could.

>>5325853
The only real loss is that we no longer get a cute magnetic hag bodyguard.

>>5325853

The writing style in this quest is the same as what was used in Paradox Reincarnator and the OP image is the same style WhatIs used to use too. After the first post I was a bit unsure as the tone was different, but every update since seems to have slipped back into the usual WhatIsAQM style. It's especially clear in the most recent update where a character with supposedly limited meta knowledge goes on a lorefag ramble about grail mechanics just like Paradox Shinji used to act. Considering they're using a new trip they might never admit to it but the resemblance is too close to be coincidence.

Fortunately WhatIs was a good QM when it came to pumping out a large volume of updates. There's a reason Paradox Reincarnator was so popular in its prime and dominated /qst/ at the time. Here's hoping they don't drop this story before there is a proper conclusion like the other quests.

>>5325942
Nice! A schizopost!

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>>5325853
WhatIs fucked up when he introduced way more characters than he can handle, and did not incorporate them coherently into the story at all. He could have cut down 1/3 or more of the cast and the story would have been the same and there would be less filler. The ending would have happened far sooner too. Also, detouring to Tsukihime's storyline and killing Nero, grabbing Aoko and Shiki(s) and doing nothing with them all felt like filler, and also having the Altrougue story line go nowhere was also pretty dumb.
>>5325258
>"...can help me convince Rin Tohsaka at school to help us."
I'm routing for you QM, this quest seems promising so far.

>>5325258
>>"...can help me convince Rin Tohsaka at school to help us."

>>5325258
>"...can help me convince Rin Tohsaka at school to help us."

>>5325258
>"...can help me convince Rin Tohsaka at school to help us."

Is Manaka in this?

>>5326677
I sure hope not.
I'm going for Rider waifu desu.
Maybe Rin if we can make that work.

>>5326708
I'm going loli harem route

>>5326709
I'm going to kill your parents for raising such slime.

>>5326716
OK sakurafag

>>5326719
Good luck getting the single loli in fsn to care about us though.
Really.

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I pity the OP for his best intentions having to go up against the baggage of grudges from the other quest.
OP I sincerely wish you luck in this enterprise. Luck and fun and preservation of sanity.

>>5326743
QM will have a successful quest if he avoid introducing a shit ton of characters, that is where previous quests fuck up. Having a bunch of characters who seem important but really add nothing to the plot and are just there for cameos and memes. So far this looks promising.
>>5326677
She can work as a final boss again, as long as there isn't dumb bullshit like breaking the fourth wall or having nega outer god powers or whatever.

>>5326708
Rider and Rin would be feasible, but I want to see where QM takes the romance since its too early to tell. Sakura probably won't win since she's fully obsessed with Shirou at this point. If MC tries to get with her even after the rapes that would be pretty fucked up.

>>5326780
>won't win
>win
It's called losing.

>>5326790
People can use different words anon, English is a very diverse language. I don't know what you're implying.

>>5326799
Retard.

>>5326803
Why does every newfag choose this buzzword when they have nothing intelligent to say?

>>5326808
You're obviously some sort of ESL with no understanding of nuance or intent in language who is being defensive about their lack of skill when interpreting another language.
Retard.

>>5326810
But there's not much point to shitposting about something so minor.
The point of my post was that "winning" when it comes to this Shinjibowl is equivalent to losing.
Nothing to do with your usage of the language.

>>5326810
>1 post by this id

>>5326814
I mean, its too early to tell either way. He only posted a handful of times and people are already schizoposting that its WhatIs again.

>>5326817
Would be funny if it is WhatIs desu.
Can't see him coming back to Shinji Isekai tho.

>>5326818
If it is WhatIs it's only a matter of time until he adds an all powerful loli for no reason.

>>5326817
If it looks like WhatIs, types like WhatIs, and attracts retards like WhatIs, then it's WhatIs

>>5326859
Retards like you?
Fuck off namefag.

>>5326821
And don't you forget, he has to be able to count male characters on the fingers of his hands.

Why'd we pick shitrou again?

>>5327173
Easiest to convince (considering the other options either don't know us, hate us, or just wants us to suffer), can use as our face to convince other people to work together/not kill us, and protagonist privilege is always nice to have in our corner.

>>5325258
>"...can start by trying to summon a Servant with this summoning circle."
I wonder if he'll still get stabbed by Lancer altough that would mean Bazett is already dead. Soo yea QM? Would Bazett still die or will we have a small chance to influence things so she doesnt get off'd by the fake priest?

>>5327187
Shirou has no such thing, he has a far greater chance to die than live in his own novel.

>>5325258
>"...can start by trying to summon a Servant with this summoning circle."

>>5327346
So every bad ending is a canon possibility? I was factoring true endings being the canon endings in terms of our survival/the world not getting fucked by the grail.

>>5327452
With how easy it was to fall into a bad ending, Shirou has pretty shit luck. Womb Realm Mandala for example only had Shirou decide to stay in the forest while Rin goes and watches the SAlter and Berserker fight. Remember, at this point Shirou does not have a Servant and wanting to be prudent he decides to stay back. Honestly anyone in that situation would make that mistake of not going to see the SAlter fight immediately, especially since its dangerous and Servants can move at the speed of light and kill in seconds.

>>5327328
Why don't we go looking for Baz?
We could warn her.

>>5327722
I don't think she'd be too hard to find either, since she's using the old Edelfelt estate.

>>5327722
Hmm it would help to get Rin before that since Baz is a Clocktower goon and Rin is the "Lord" of this region , would become a lot easier to negotiate when we have an offical with us besides she would not believe just the 2 of us.
We have to work quick tho Rin could be a pain in the ass to convince especially with our face.

>>5321914
Sorry, is there a previous archived thread? It's been a while since I've come to /qst/

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>>5327758
>Rin
>a lord
Not in a million years, Toesucker

>>5327766
lol
okay then I will rephrase it we live on her turf she is responsible for this region as far as i know she will lose face if something shit happens here especially if its about the HGW

>>5327763
This is a new quest, anons are talking about the last guy to attempt a fsn isekai.

>>5327777
What a terrible fuster cluck that was

>>5327793
But fun regardless.

And I am back in town.
Give me a bit and I'll get to work.
Some interesting conversation while I was gone.

Summon
>>5325264
>>5325272
>>5327328
>>5327376

Rin
>>5325284
>>5325421
>>5325691
>>5325782
>>5326117
>>5326572
>>5326501

Illya
>>5325304

"-can help me convince Rin Tohsaka at school to help us." Rin would be the next logical step, and while you knew that she hated you, she'd hopefully be a little bit more accomodating towards the boy she's crushing on because he did a high jump at some point. Especially when you revealed that he was a magus as well... and even more so when you revealed the corruption that has seeped into the grail since the third war as a result of the summoning of... Angra Mainyu, was it? Whatever the name of the god in question, it fucked the grail up hardcore ever since.

"Huh, Tohsaka...? What's she got to do with this?" Shirou seemed confused that you were suddenly bringing up the name from a girl he barely knew from school. Of course he'd heard her name because who hadn't? Despite having about as much charismatic ability and tact as a donkey, Rin was somehow considered the most desirable girl in the entire school. It was absolutely baffling to think about when you put it in terms like that. She has like literally one friend in the entire school!

"Well, if memory serves me, a few centuries ago, the grail war was devised by three people. Justeaze von Einzbern, Nagato Tohsaka and... Zolgen Makiri." The last name being the name that your asshole of a grandpa used to go by until he decided that the thing his family needed the most was a name that sounded less foreign... for some stupid reason. Why would he even care about the locals anyway? "As you may have been able to guess from the name, Nagato is Rin's ancestor, and seeing as Fuyuki City is land that is acknowledged as belonging to the Tohsaka for matters related to the supernatural by the Mage's Association, we're going to have to get her help.

"But... didn't Tohsaka just reject you again just last week?" You winced, damn it, previous Shinji! Why did you have to be such a clueless idiot? You thought back on Shinji's memories only to see him get rejected over and over again by Rin, she clearly didn't like him from the start, and hated him after the fourth attempt... so the six attempts after that would've definitely not improved things from that point either. Of course, Shinji had no way of knowing at the time that the only way to Rin's heart was to autistically fail at the high-jump about two hundred times in a row like a certain auburn-haired somebody.

"I don't want to hear about last week. There's way more important stuff going on right now than my love affairs, Shirou." More important stuff like ensuring you don't get murdered by Illya or... or... or any of the other dangers that lied ahead on the path that you may well not be able to divert from at this point. Still, it was going to be even more awkward to convince her thanks to Shinji's past actions, and they were just the past actions Rin was aware of! "I'm a changed man anyway." You tried not to give away just how true that sentence was before you quickly thought of a distraction for yourself. "Regardless, I think it'll be easier to get Rin on our side if your with me."

"If you say so." Shirou didn't entirely sound convinced that he'd be much help when it came to dealing with Rin, but hopefully she wouldn't be able to resist if you revealed you had information about some of the other Servants or something. You knew for a fact that positive incentive would be needed in dealing with Rin, telling her just straight up that the Einzbern corrupted the grail sixty years ago because they were stupid is something that you knew she just wouldn't believe... not from Shinji's mouth anyway. He had been a far too untrustworthy person for that. "So, how exactly are we supposed to do this anyway?" Shirou absentmindedly asked, and you stopped for a moment as you realized you hadn't actually thought that far into things.

>"You'll write a letter and stick it on her locker telling her to meet you on the roof."
>"We will literally just stop her in the school hallways, what could go wrong?"
>"If we hurry, we might be able to catch her before she arrives at school."
>"I'm going to find where she is and then have Rider pull the fire alarm so that the school is evacuated long enough for a chat."
>Say something else.

>>5328138
>"If we hurry, we might be able to catch her before she arrives at school."

Could we have Rider scout for her? I'm not sure when she starts skipping school if she does it at all.

>>5328138
>"We will literally just stop her in the school hallways, what could go wrong?"
Stop her in the hallway, ask her to talk to us on the roof. It's where they always talk.

>>5328150
>I'm not sure when she starts skipping school if she does it at all.
They don't stop going to school during the war, despite the obvious danger. Not Rin, not almost anyone else.

>"If we hurry, we might be able to catch her before she arrives at school."

>>5328138
>"If we hurry, we might be able to catch her before she arrives at school."
>>5328169
Some other quests have the MC actively avoid school which is smart, but most of the time its to prepare or train or whatever. Shinji right now can't perform even a single spell except for using some hexes from the Book of the False attendant. Is there a reason to even skip school since in the VN the only threats were Tohsaka if she's an enemy, Shinji and Rider with their barrier, and maybe the off chance of Caster visiting Kuzuki which is unlikely. 2/3 of those me threats are most likely eliminated since we're Shinji and Tohsaka may be convinced.

>>5328183
Perfectly reasonable, provided you have perfect meta-knowledge of all Masters and the threat they pose or don't pose. The characters in the story don't though, and they really should have started taking this thing more seriously. Rin almost dies to Lancer on day 1, for example, and this doesn't discourage her at all. Not to mention the whole Bloodfort clusterfuck, or Kuzuki being exposed in UBW or wormed in HF being the direct result of him deciding not to take some time off to stay with his lovely new wife.

>>5328169
They start skipping school towards the end of the war, to prepare for big fights and for recovery.

>>5328226
The war doesn't happen in broad daylight in the middle of the city, due to the Mage Association's rules about keeping magic secret. Going to school was relatively safe, and Shirou and Rin were defusing the sigils that Rider was setting up at the school, so they had plenty of reason to be there. Kuzuki is a master assassin buffed with Caster's magic, and can even kill Saber by surprise with his unorthodox style, so he had even less to fear than Shirou and Rin did.

>>5328138
>"I'm going to find where she is and then have Rider pull the fire alarm so that the school is evacuated long enough for a chat."
She will fall for us

>>5328138
>"I'm going to find where she is and then have Rider pull the fire alarm so that the school is evacuated long enough for a chat."

>>5328138
>>"If we hurry, we might be able to catch her before she arrives at school."

>>5328138
>"If we hurry, we might be able to catch her before she arrives at school."
Pulling the fire alarm seems like it would result in Rin calling us a moron.

>"If we hurry, we might be able to catch her before she arrives at school."

The faster the better. That's going to be a tough conversation.

>>5328138
>"You'll write a letter and stick it on her locker telling her to meet you on the roof."
If it was any other random she would only ignore but since it's Shirou I think she'll go.

Catch her before she gets to school
>>5328150
>>5328175
>>5328183
>>5328573
>>5328601
>>5328775

Literally just stop her
>>5328169

Fire alarm
>>5328334
>>5328507

Letter
>>5329025

"If we hurry, we might be able to catch Rin before she arrives at school." It was a fairly solid bet that you'd be able to manage such a thing, Rin was the sort of person who loathed getting up early if memory served correctly, so while she's not the sort of girl to arrive at school late because she liked to keep up appearances, there's not a snowflake's chance in hell that she'd ever be early to school.

"Right, well... do you mind if I tell Sakura and Fuji-nee that I've gotta head off early?" Always concerned with the feelings of those around him, Shirou glanced towards the door of the shed with a small amount of concern in his eyes, clearly despite the fact that the world itself might've been in danger of being destroyed over the coming days, he didn't want to make Sakura or Taiga upset. Some might call that having misguided priorities, but it was good that Shirou wasn't devoting himself fully to trying to save the world.

"Sure, but... don't say anything about Rin to Sakura, alright?" God knows the last thing you needed is Sakura to start feeling jealous about Rin, and... well Shirou just randomly skipping out early during the morning to go and see her. "Just make up some sort of errand that you need to run before school, I trust that you're able to think of something, like groceries or something." Hopefully he'd come up with something convincing, but more likely he'd just say something kind of stupid and leave anyway. Oh well.

"I mean... alright, I won't." Shirou sounded a bit confused about not mentioning anything to Sakura, but he didn't push it any further, you wondered for a moment what the boy was thinking about before you decided to just focus on what was important right now.

"Good, I'll be leaving shortly before you, and I'll wait outside the house while you make your excuses. Rider?" You called out to your Servant, who nodded before returning to spirit form and following after you as you took your leave of the shed... you could've tried to get Shirou to summon Saber early, but... it wasn't really wise to try something like that. You couldn't even see any Command Seals on his hand yet, so it was far too risky to push your luck. Saber would normally be weakened enough as it is by his botched summoning, you don't want to know just how bad things could get if the circumstances were made even worse by forcing the matter.

With that final thought, you hurried out of Shirou's house, walking back the way you came and reaching the front door of the house in record time... but just as you opened the door and prepared to leave the house, you heard a voice from behind you. "Nii-san? What are you doing here?" There was a hint of defensiveness in Sakura's voice, as if she was prepared for some sort of argument.

You froze in place as the voice brought dozens of memories to the forefront of your mind... of how terrible Shinji had been to Sakura, of witnessing the girl's dreadful treatment and not only doing nothing to stop it, but also eventually joining in on things. Your face paled as you tried to force the memories away, and you ended up sprinting out of the door as quickly as you possibly could, not daring to look back as you did. It turns out that you aren't immune to the feelings of second-hand guilt you now have from taking control of Shinji's body, though at the same time you felt absolved of any guilt from taking control of the body, accidentally and without any say or knowledge in the matter or not.

You ran for about three minutes before coming to a stop behind a tree on the side of a road... you felt like being sick thanks to those awful memories, and you wished you could forget them entirely. Your face was still pale as you slumped behind a tree, and Rider manifested in front of you, looking oddly concerned about the display. "Master... what was that about?"

"It's nothing, Rider. It's just... don't worry about it." You didn't really want to tell the woman the true reason behind your sudden burst of speed out of Shirou's house, she'd probably end up finding out about it anyway in time, and you didn't want to relive the memories that weren't your own any more than you already had. Perhaps you could come up with some excuse as to just why you're so different? Obviously telling people that you were some sort of outer universal entity that saw the world as a story was way out of the question, but you could maybe go with something similar. Like you could say that you were the spirit of somebody who died during the great Fuyuki fire, or that you had been hypnotized from a young age and twisted into being Zouken's puppet and that somehow that hypnosis had been broken! Anything to detach you from the actions that your body had taken.

"Very well." Rider didn't seem satisfied by the answer but at the same time didn't actually care about you enough to really push you for an answer, she wasn't even really your Servant anyway, so she didn't have too much of a reason to care. Hell, the only reason she really followed you in the first place was because she kind of had to thanks to the Book of False Attendant that had been given to you. She was also apparently thinking of some way to help Sakura while acting as Shinji's Servant, but most of the time that just boiled down to 'setting up a deathtrap at a place Sakura is guaranteed to be in on Shinji's command' and 'dying as a result of setting up said deathtrap'. You couldn't exactly call her very bright when it came to plans either way.

You sighed as you recovered from your brief outburst, you had only just managed to stop yourself from vomiting through focusing on your disdain for the original Shinji, but you also realized that you'd gotten a little too far from Shirou's house for him to be able to easily find you. You thought that there was meant to be some sort of mental connection that a Servant and a Master were supposed to share but it seemed that you didn't have such a luxury thanks to not truly being Rider's Master, so you'd have to communicate with her vocally. "Rider, could you go and fetch Shirou and lead him to me? I got a little bit too far from the house there."

Rider didn't respond but you knew that she was doing as you asked, she didn't really have much of a choice thanks to the Book acting as some weird form of a weak permanent Command Spell, unfortunately it clearly couldn't be used to power Rider up. "I need to get myself under control." You spoke out loud to yourself after waiting a few seconds for Rider to go get Shirou. Fortunately you had ended up running south, which meant you were actually closer to Rin's home as a result of running away from Shirou's house.

It took a few more minutes for Shirou to end up finding you again, and he seemed concerned about something when he finally caught up to you. "This... this doesn't have anything to do with Sakura, does it? Fuji-nee told me that she saw you sprinting from the house after seeing her, and you said not to bring Rin up to her too..." Shirou seemed concerned, but while Sakura was important, you couldn't afford to tell anybody the truth about her just yet. Not until you were in a better situation than you were currently in, anyway. The last thing you needed was for Shirou to try to play the hero and confront Zouken or something equally retarded that he is likely to do upon finding out the truth, and you didn't exactly want to have to forcefully restrain him with Rider.

"It's good that you noticed that, Shirou... but while I'm happy you're worrying about my sister, this doesn't have anything to do with her." You tried to dissuade Shirou's concern for Sakura. "in a non worst-case scenario, at least." You quietly added, not caring if you were heard or not, you wouldn't bother to elaborate even if you were demanded to do so. "Anyway, let's see if we can make our way to Tohsaka now, alright? I'm sure that she'll be interested in what I have to say."

"Right, let's go." Shirou nodded, thankfully quick to focus on things again rather than press for information about Sakura, and the two of you set off towards Rin's home. With any luck, this meeting will end up not going terribly... though somehow you doubted you'd be that lucky.

After about twenty minutes of walking through Fuyuki, you ended up near Rin's house, though the girl herself was nowhere in sight and there was no real way of telling whether or not she had actually left the house or not from just looking at the front door of her house. "Are you sure she wouldn't go to school early?" Shirou asked innocently, and at that moment an image of a drowsy Tohsaka popped into your mind, the girl really didn't do well with early mornings.

"I guarantee it." It's not exactly like the Mage's Association gave half of a shit about mundane grading systems anyway, you were pretty sure that having a good school grade was less important to being accepted and 'the ability to blow shit up with magecraft' was looked upon far more favorably.

With that thought in mind, the two, or rather three considering Rider was present in spiritual form, of you waited outside of Rin's house... ten minutes passed and there was no movement, you found yourself checking the time on your flip phone as you waited. Another twenty minutes passed with no sign of Tohsaka, until finally after around 30 minutes of waiting, the twin-tailed girl finally walked out of her door before she stopped in place upon seeing you standing with Shirou, her neutral expression quickly turning into an irritated scowl as she stormed over to you, obviously she didn't feel it necessary to keep up her typical public persona in this case.

"What the hell do you think you're doing waiting outside my house, Matou?" Apparently she hadn't even noticed Shirou's presence at all, choosing instead to focus entirely on the very much unwanted presence in her sight. You would've expected her to have at least attempted to pretend to be friendly for a moment, but... well she wasn't a morning person, and you were probably the last thing that she wanted to see upon leaving her house.

"Charming as expected, Tohsaka." You shrugged as you cheerfully greeted the girl. "But I'm not here for any reason you might think I've shown up to talk about." Rin assuming that you had appeared on her doorstep to be a general nuisance... wasn't really that unreasonable though, so you'd not hold that against her.

"Oh really, then what are you here to talk about, Matou?" Rin clearly wasn't in the mood to humor you, but she had apparently noticed the presence of Shirou now, and clearly didn't just want to rudely dismiss you like she had previously attempted to.

>"Oh, not much, just the fact that your sister is being abused daily at the hands of my grandfather and you somehow never noticed."
>"The fact that the Holy Grail War is even more of a scam thanks to the Einzbern managing to corrupt the Grail in the third war when they tried to summon a god of evil."
>"Well, the fact that your father was in fact not slain by an enemy Master in the last Holy Grail War, but was in fact literally stabbed in the back by Kirei Kotomine with the very knife that he later gave you as a gift would be a start."
>"I just wanted to ask how you'd feel if I revealed that I wasn't in fact Shinji, but a wraith from ten years ago possessing his body after being outraged by the terrible things he has done and would no doubt go on to do."
>Say something else.

>>5329153
>"Well, the fact that your father was in fact not slain by an enemy Master in the last Holy Grail War, but was in fact literally stabbed in the back by Kirei Kotomine with the very knife that he later gave you as a gift would be a start."

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>>5329152
>"The fact that the Holy Grail War is even more of a scam thanks to the Einzbern managing to corrupt the Grail in the third war when they tried to summon a god of evil."
Kek, we don't need reinforcement to run away from rape allegations.

>>5329153
>"Oh, not much, just the fact that your sister is being abused daily at the hands of my grandfather and you somehow never noticed."

>>5329153
>"The fact that the Holy Grail War is even more of a scam thanks to the Einzbern managing to corrupt the Grail in the third war when they tried to summon a god of evil."

>>5329153
>"The fact that the Holy Grail War is even more of a scam thanks to the Einzbern managing to corrupt the Grail in the third war when they tried to summon a god of evil."
>>5329174
Hmm we definetly should let her know about this later but right now I dont think its the best way to get her attention. It would be like getting woken up with a punch to the face, still if we fail to get her on board with something else we could always just drop the "bomb" on her.

>>5329152
>"The fact that the Holy Grail War is even more of a scam thanks to the Einzbern managing to corrupt the Grail in the third war when they tried to summon a god of evil."
>"Well, the fact that your father was in fact not slain by an enemy Master in the last Holy Grail War, but was in fact literally stabbed in the back by Kirei Kotomine with the very knife that he later gave you as a gift would be a start."
Let's not bring up the Sakura abuse right away, especially to the sister who thinks we're already a scummy playboy. We'll need a lot of proof for thr Einzbern Grail, and maybe Rin's dad being murdered. But bringing those two up at the same time is difficult for Rin to consider those as lies. Especially the dagger murder since the Azoth Dagger should be only something that her and Kirei knows about.

>>5329153
>>"The fact that the Holy Grail War is even more of a scam thanks to the Einzbern managing to corrupt the Grail in the third war when they tried to summon a god of evil."
I'm down with telling her about her father after we can ensure she doesn't try suiciding into Kirei.

>>5329233
Unfortunately it seems dummasery is hereditary in the Tohsaka family. Then again, you could say that about most magus families.

>"Oh, not much, just the fact that your sister is being abused daily at the hands of my grandfather and you somehow never noticed."

>>5329153
>"The fact that the Holy Grail War is even more of a scam thanks to the Einzbern managing to corrupt the Grail in the third war when they tried to summon a god of evil."
Honestly, possession is a pretty good excuse for when she asks how we know. The other two revelations can come later.

>>5329153
>"The fact that the Holy Grail War is even more of a scam thanks to the Einzbern managing to corrupt the Grail in the third war when they tried to summon a god of evil."

>>5329217
+1

I would keep the wraith story for Shirou at another time

>Your dad was murdered
>>5329174

>Holy grail scam
>>5329193
>>5329215
>>5329216
>>5329233
>>5329388
>>5329633

>Sakura abuse
>>5329212
>>5329301

>scam and murder
>>5329217
>>5329947

"The fact that the Holy Grail War is even more of a scam than it typically is because about sixty years ago during the fourth Grail War, the Einzbern summoned a Heroic Spirit that ended up permanently tainting the grail." You spoke calmly and without pause as you stared Rin in the eyes, enjoying her reaction as it went from irritation at your presence to confusion to what you were talking about.

"...What?" Rin obviously hadn't been expecting you to start talking about the intricacies of the Holy Grail War, so her reaction was even more priceless.

"Yes, if my memory serves correctly, it's because the servant they summoned was some sort of attempt to summon an Evil God, but in the end they managed to summon an incredibly weak nameless Heroic Spirit, a boy who was originally sacrificed thousands of years ago with the wish he would somehow become a God of Evil."

"Meaning that when he was killed during the war and his spirit was kept within the grail... the grail attempted to grant that wish?" You could say what you liked about Rin, but she was very quick to catch on to stuff relating to magic like this, and you honestly were expecting you'd need to explain things more than you already had, but you supposed that she really was bright sometimes.

"Exactly, the corruption isn't exactly very well hidden if you know what you're looking for either, under normal circumstances, the Holy Grail would only be able to summon those considered heroes, but the fourth war and of course this war has had beings summoned from the Throne of Heroes who are instead considered Anti-Heroes in addition to typical heroes." There were a few bits of evidence about the corruption of the grail, the only issue was that there was nobody around who was able to figure it out from the information they had available, and those who were aware simply didn't care about the corruption at all.

"Do you... have any sort of evidence to back up this claim?" Rin was clearly on the cusp of being convinced, her dislike for you not enough to make her reject the truth in front of her. You were fortunate that she was rational enough that she was at least somewhat willing to put her personal thoughts on Shinji as a person aside for long enough that it allowed her to consider what you were actually telling her.

"Well, the true identity of my own Servant for one can be used as evidence... but I don't exactly want to reveal her identity. Instead I'll draw your attention to the Caster of the last war, Gilles de Rais... I doubt you'll try to make an argument that he could be considered a hero by anybody." If you recalled correctly, Rin had some sort of a run in with the horrifyingly evil Caster of the last war when one of her friends was kidnapped.

"I... how do you know all of this, Matou?" Obviously she'd want answers, especially considering that there was absolutely no way that somebody who she had previously considered to not be magical at all should know what you were talking about. Of course she was still just ignoring the presence of Shirou, who seemed to have been totally lost by what you and Rin were talking about despite trying his hardest to follow along.

"I can't reveal that to you just yet, Tohsaka. But... I can reveal that if the Holy Grail War is allowed to be completed, the entire world may end up being destroyed as a result of a wish twisted by the evil god lurking within the Greater Grail." Unfortunately the Holy Grail could never be used for any sort of selfless purpose now, with even a wish as noble as wanting to save humanity being twisted into an apocalyptic event wherein all of humanity would be destroyed so they no longer needed to be saved.

Rin closed her eyes for a moment as she seemed to come to a decision. "Then... we'll go and dismantle the Greater Grail right now!" Rin obviously wanted to take action, and while you approved of her actually taking what you had said to heart despite hating the messenger and the long time goal of the Tohsaka, you shook your head regardless.

"Not something that any of us here can do, the Einzbern will be tremendously difficult to convince about this development and their Master will oppose us unless we can convince them... and also there's another problem, Caster has set herself a fortress up on top of the site of the Greater Grail, and I'm not sure if she'll be open to negotiations." While you would certainly prefer to convince Medea to help you instead of battling with her for no real purpose, there was no guarantee that she would be as willing to talk as Rin was. Especially considering that she actually had a goal for this Holy Grail War.

"Then what, you've come here to tell me all about this just to say that there's nothing we can do about it?" Rin sounded irritated again, as if she was remembering that she actually really did hate you. "Also, why is he here?" She pointed at Shirou, finally choosing now as the time to get curious about the presence of the third person in the conversation who was obviously having difficulty following along. "I swear, Matou, you're lucky I don't hypnotize you into forgetting all about the Grail War along with him." She started to walk towards Shirou, but you shook your head.

"That's not gonna be needed. Emiya is a magus. Not a very good one, but he is a magus. In fact, his father was actually once quite well known by most of the magical community... but I don't think he was able to teach Shirou his family magecraft, and so it died with him." Of course Shirou's father was known entirely for being the legendarily feared Magus Killer, but nobody needed to hear about Kiritsugu's sordid past just yet.

"Brilliant... more and more surprises every minute." You had to suppress a laugh. You hadn't told Rin barely anything about what you knew yet, and she was already growing annoyed at how little she knew. You had yet to mention Gilgamesh, or Kirei murdering her father, or what's going on with Sakura, or the orphan dungeon underneath the church... but all those could wait. "So, say I did believe you about all of this, what would you want me to do?" Rin decided to hit you with quite the frustrating question, it was obvious that she'd already bought half of what you had told her,

>"I want you to come with me to confront the Einzbern Master to try to get her to assist us."
>"I want you to come with me to meet Caster's Master, we might be able to convince him."
>"Actually, I want you to see if you can't activate Shirou's magic circuits. Mine too... if I have any that can be used."
>"Nothing until you've summoned your own Servant in a few days, we can't afford to rush things right now."
>Say something else.

>>5330230
>>"Actually, I want you to see if you can't activate Shirou's magic circuits. Mine too... if I have any that can be used."

>>5330230
>"Nothing until you've summoned your own Servant in a few days, we can't afford to rush things right now."
It's the only thing that we need Rin for right now. Going to Illya with her will make Illya even more hostile, and Kuzuki won't be more inclined to listen to her than us.

>>5330230
>"Actually, I want you to see if you can't activate Shirou's magic circuits. Mine too... if I have any that can be used."
Circuit Quality: E
Circuit Quantity: E

>>5330289
>"Actually, I want you to see if you can't activate Shirou's magic circuits. Mine too... if I have any that can be used."
I meant this, lol

Ok, I want to get two updates out today so could I please get 1d20 from 3 anons?

Rolled 19 (1d20)

>>5330387

Rolled 13 (1d20)

>>5330387

Rolled 9 (1d20)

>>5330387
Time for some godlike circuits again?

>>5330395
>>5330392
Yes.

>>5330398
I appear when needed.

Rolled 15 (1d20)

>>5330387

>>5330402
Holy-

>>5330402
Oh boy, so it begins again.

>>5330407
Just need Manakaschitzos and Sakurafag and we'll have the whole crew again.

>>5330402
History repeats itself, first as a tragedy, second as a farce.

>>5326677
>>5330412
Think sakurafag is already here or in another quest I'm reading.

>namefags/tripfags
I didn't want to have to do this, but please remain as Anonymous for the duration of this quest, thank you.
I don't want any gay cults of personality building up here like the last Shinji Isekai had, nor do I want to deal with the baggage of that quest from salty namefags.

>>5330417
Based,
>>5330412
>>5330415
Sakurafags have no chance anyway. MC even pukes at the sight of her.

>>5330428
Good

>>5330417
>Oh no, my actions have consequences.
Bruh, if you didn't want to deal with Sakurautist and the crew you shouldn't have made your MC Shinji.

>>5330432
They don't hold a monopoly on ideas and neither does WhatIsAQM, and I can very well tell them to fuck off if they want to try their bullshit here.

>>5330428
Considering our goal is survival, I don't really care about it.
That and magnet wife isn't in this quest so...

>>5330402
Nice roll, anonymous bro

>>5330489
Thanks brosef

>>5330428

Saving Sakura just makes sense, though, especially if you want to waifu Rider. And she's interested in Shirou anyway, so just pair him with her and then let Shinji pick from the other girls.

"Actually... I want to see if you can't activate Emiya's magic circuits... and possibly mine too, if I actually have any." You didn't know if Rin would accept your request, but you hoped that what you'd told her already would give her incentive to at least try to help you.

"What are you even trying to say now? You're telling me that Emiya-kun here is somehow a magus without having activated his magic circuits?" Rin chose to completely ignore the second part of your request, as if she was pretending that she couldn't hear it at all. You hoped that she was just focused on Shirou and wasn't going to allow her dislike of Shinji to prevent her from helping you out with your circuits... you knew that Shinji had some really shitty circuits that could be forced open, but you didn't even know if it was possible for Rin to do it.

"Tell her how you do it, Emiya." You turned to the boy, who seemed to be surprised that he was now being included on the conversation, especially after the past few minutes in which he obviously understood absolutely nothing that was happening whatsoever.

"Isn't my way the way everyone does it...? Wait, how do you know if I'm doing anything wrong anyway?" Shirou realized quickly that for you to tell him to tell Rin what he was doing kind of had to mean that you already knew, even though there was no possible way that you ought to have been able to tell.

"I just know, now tell Tohsaka." You crossed your arms as you continued to stare at Shirou, waiting for him to actually explain his idiocy to Rin so you could actually get his circuits activated.

"..." Shirou looked at you with annoyance, he was making it painfully clear that he was irritated that you somehow knew something he did in private when he was sure that he was alone. "I... focus and I... create something that can hold the energy I need to do magecraft from one of my nerves, it hurts a lot, but... isn't that how magecraft works? No pain no gain?" Shirou seemed to be trying to convince Rin, and her eyes were wide with a mixture of shock, pity and just all around befuddlement.

"You what?" She stared at Shirou for some time as she seemed to be trying to figure out whether he was being serious or if she was just being messed with, and after a few seconds of thinking clearly seemed to decide that the boy was being serious. "Are you out of your mind?! Do you have any idea how dangerous something like that is? You could've died! Hell, I don't even know how you could even bear that much pain... it must be like injecting molten metal into your spine!" Rin's reaction to finding out about Shirou's imbecilic dedication to performing magic was about what you'd expect.

"Yeah... it hurts quite a bit, but that's what everyone does, right?" Shirou tried to gain some assurance from Rin, who was just utterly stunned by his foolishness. Had he been anyone else, he probably would have actually died, but it seems that being the main character is useful for something.

"Good lord... you're completely hopeless..." Rin covered her face with a hand before she turned to head back to her house. "I'm going to be late to school because of this nonsense... but come in, Emiya-kun... you too, Matou." She hesitated for a moment before granting you permission to enter her home as well. "Just know that if this is some sort of elaborate scheme or hoax to trick me, I'll make you wish you were dead." Rin retained a cheerful attitude as she walked back into her house, and you and Shirou hesitated for a moment before you took the lead and followed after the girl. Rider was still silently watching from spiritual form, and you wondered what she was thinking as you followed Rin into her house, it would only be so long until she ended up confronting you about how much you had changed since she saw you yesterday. Rin was also a problem, she'd probably already started to theorize about your changed behavior, but with any luck she'd just dismiss such thoughts right now.

Inside of Rin's house, you weren't really impressed by it, the Tohsaka showed off about the same level of wealth that the Matou did. Of course the Tohsaka home felt a little less gloomy and hopeless than the Matou mansion did, so you supposed that was something Rin had over you... though you aren't really sure why you were that bothered.

"Right, well first off, before I bother doing anything else, I'm going to make sure that you actually have magic circuits, Emiya-kun... I don't really know why you think you might have circuits though, Matou." Rin frowned at you before shrugging. "I guess it wouldn't hurt to check..." You heard Rin mumbling something about crushing dreams when she turned around, for some reason she thought that you somehow couldn't hear her whispering her thoughts aloud, but you didn't feel like arguing with her about her tremendously rude behavior. The truth was that you kind of deserved such treatment considering what Rin knew Shinji for.

"Uh, how do you do that?" Shirou gulped audibly as he looked at Rin, his complete lack of knowledge with magecraft that was outside of what little he knew how to do made him worried that Rin was approaching with the intent to do something dangerous.

"Don't worry, it won't hurt... and even if it did, you'd have no trouble with it, would you?" Rin didn't seem all too bothered by Shirou's caution about magecraft and just approached and laid a hand on his shoulder before closing her eyes. You could see the focus on the girls face as she attempted to locate Shirou's circuits, before she took her hand off of his shoulder with a bemused expression. "Interesting... 27 Magic Circuits, but... they've atrophied so much that they'll only be able to carry half of their normal capacity of 20 Units of Magical Energy..."

"Is that good?" Obviously Shirou had no idea about the specifics of the situation, he really should've been trained better, if only Kiritsugu wasn't an idiot.

"It's an above average number of circuits, but your quality is low, unfortunately." You answered for Rin, who looked a little bit annoyed at having her thunder stolen from her.

"Yes, that's what I was about to say." Rin glared at you before sighing loudly. "I still need to prepare a few things before I can activate them for you though... it's a little bit of a complex process to do it safely after all." Rin admitted that granting somebody the ability to use their Magic Circuits wasn't exactly something as easy as just prodding them with magic and hey presto, they could use magic. "Alright then, Matou... I suppose I'll also check you." Of course, Rin should have no reason to believe that you had any circuits at all... and you only had a vague hope yourself, but damn if the ability to use at least some sort of magecraft wouldn't make the coming few days just a tiny bit easier. You'd been fortunate enough that Shinji in his youth had read and memorized basically the entire library of the Matou household, so the magical theory that you were capable of drawing on was pretty immense. Over the years, Zouken had managed to amass some particularly impressive grimoires, and with all that information in your head... you were sure that you could at least manage a few spells.

Just as she had done with Shirou, Rin placed her hand on your shoulder, though she hesitated for a long time before actually going through with it... and she ran a tiny fraction of her energy through your body. You could feel the strange sensation, it was like a minor electric current running through your body, until finally, Rin opened her eyes a final time. "Huh... that's strange... I thought that the Matou had been a dying bloodline... so why do I see 19 circuits? The quality is just a little higher than Shirou's... but it's strange, it almost feels like they had previously been sealed but something opened them up once more!" Rin seemed totally baffled by the development before shaking her head. "Opened... but not activated... how strange..." It felt like Rin was on the cusp of figuring something out, so you coughed and started to speak.

"Well, thank you for that, Tohsaka... but with that out of the way, I think-"

>"-we should be getting to school."
>"-we should meet with the Einzbern Master."
>"-we should take a visit to see Caster."
>"-I have an errand to run, alone. (What?)"
>Say something else.

>>5330692
>"-we should be getting to school."

>>5330692
>"-we should be getting to school."

>>5330692
>>"-we should be getting to school."

>>5330692
>"-we should be getting to school."

>>5330692
>"-we should be getting to school."

>>5330692
>"-we should be getting to school."

>>5330692
>"-we should be getting to school."
I we remember that Bazett is here somwhere then we should tell her it would be useful to request the help of a clocktower enforcer.

>>5331465
Whatever she is a hunter or smth. Still if we keep fuckin around she will wind up dead. Preferably before she goes to meet Kirei poor girl was even happy to be invited. Both Cu and her deserve a happy ending or at least a bittersweet one. We even have two very concerning arguments to get her on our side.

"I think we should be getting to school." You didn't really have any more business that you needed to resolve during the day that you could think of, and meeting up with any of the other Masters in this war was simply too risky right now. It would be far safer to meet Illya or Caster when both Shirou and Rin had their own Servants. That way even in a worse case scenario, the three working together would be able to defeat Caster and Kuzuki without all too much difficulty and there was also a chance of defeating Berserker too.

"Right." Shirou nodded in agreement, any later and you'd all end up being late, and while you didn't really care about being late at all considering how meaningless school was to you right now, it was clear that Shirou cared.

"Great, well... you go ahead Matou. I don't want to be seen arriving at school with you, I have an image to uphold." Ouch, that's pretty cold there Rin, but entirely expected considering how little she thought of you.

"Pfft, don't make me laugh Tohsaka." You smirked before turning to Shirou. "Come on, let's get going, Tohsaka obviously doesn't want us around any longer than we have to be." You weren't exactly a fan of being constantly talked down to by Rin, so you decided that it would be best to hit her where it hurts.

"H-hey, I-!" Rin tried to interrupt, not wanting Shirou to think any less of her considering that she had a pretty large crush on him. But you didn't really care about what Rin thought or even really wanted, in terms of motivation she'd originally just joined the grail war because she kind of wanted to. There's no depth or goal behind her actions in joining the war normally, she just does whatever she wants because that's what she thinks she's meant to do.

"Shut up Tohsaka, you wanted me gone, I'm going." You led Shirou out of her house, barely able to disguise your glee at being able to get away with tormenting her like this. Of course there was no way that she could know that you were aware of her little crush, so it was fine, and endlessly amusing for you.

You and Shirou quickly made your way to school, arriving a few minutes before it would be too late and quickly making your way to class. Of course the school day itself was tremendously uneventful, and while you were a little bit cautious of somehow bumping into Kuzuki there wasn't any reason for him to suspect that his identity was compromised just yet. So you just went through the motions, though you couldn't bring yourself to socialize with the vapid empty headed girls that Shinji usually liked to surround himself with, so you just spent the day having very little difficulty with the schoolwork.

Soon enough the school day was over and you were once more free to do as you pleased. But... the question was just what you wanted to do for the next few hours, you could go see Rin later on but she needed some time to make some preperations first.

>Go try to find Sakura, you may as well try to talk with her.
>Wander around town to see if you can find anything out of ordinary.
>Just act normally until going to see Rin.
>Loiter around Rin's home until she was ready.
>Do something else.

>>5331528
>Do something else.
>Search for Bazett before she gets killed by Kirei.
I don't think Shinji is going to remember unless he really starts thinking about it.

>>5331555
Support.

>>5331528
>Wander around town to see if you can find anything out of ordinary.

>>5331528
>Do something else.
>Search for Bazett before she gets killed by Kirei.
We need an adult.
Someone who actually knows how to fight as a magus and is truly competent. Dont get me wrong Rin is really good but her way of thinking might cause problems when we need to think shit through.

>>5331528
>Do something else.
>Search for Bazett before she gets killed by Kirei.

>>5331555
Support

>>5331555
>>5331528
Support
Let's save Cu's fangirl

>>5331555
who is she ?

>>5331649
An enforcer from the Mage Association who's participating in the Holy Grail War on their behalf, but she unfortunately trusts Kotomine Kirei and he kills her when she summons Lancer. She's looked up to Cu Chulainn since she was young and has always wanted to meet him, so she took part in the war to summon him.

>>5331555
+1

>>5331555
+1

>Go try to find Sakura, you may as well try to talk with her.

>>5331752
No

>>5331555
+1

>>5331752
What is there to talk about, that you raped her at a young age and somehow apologizing for it now will make up for it? Sakurafags are delusional, just leave the poor girl alone and have Shirou and later Rin comfort her.

>>5331815
I actually think it's dangerous if she finds out we have Magic Circuits that work if it's not framed right. All that suffering she endured because the Matou didn't have a magically capable heir is immediately brought into question. I'm also fairly certain Sakura does care about Shinji despite all he's done? Doesn't she support him after the events of the UBW good endings? Care may be too strong a word, more like pity maybe?

>>5331824
Sakura blames herself for her suffering. She's already apologetic because she thinks she stole his position as the heir. If he does have magic circuits, it will only confirm in her mind that she did steal what was rightfully his, and that he's justified to lash out against her.

She does care about him, as a combination of how much of a sweet girl full of love that she is, some Stockholm syndrome, memories of when he was pretty decent to her as a kid, compared to everyone else in her life other than Kariya and later Shirou, and her self-loathing telling her she doesn't deserve any better. But she also hates deep down, a feeling only brought to the surface by Angra's corruption.

>>5331815
Sakura doesn't actually hate Shinji though. She has too low self-esteem to actually blame him for what he did.

>>5331844
I'd forgotten about her self-hatred. Thanks for reminding me.

>>5331844
She was asking for it

>>5331844
Yea Sakura's unsound mind is a whole can of worms I don't want to open right now.

>>5332064
Heh, worms

>>5332064
>>5332069
>She was tortured and raped for 11 years since the age of 5.
Heh. Funny.

>>5332074
It is and I'm tired of pretending it's not.

present

>>5332250
He is back. Joy.

>>5332270
Is it REALLY Sakurafag if the vote hasn't been samefagged into oblivion in some convoluted write-in scheme that requires 200 IQ to understand?

Suddenly, as if you were just punched in the mouth by a pro-boxer, you remembered something incredibly important that you had just been completely disregarding. Bazett, the original Master of Lancer, and somebody who ends up getting killed off shortly before the Holy Grail War itself begins. Normally such information wouldn't be of any value to you, but it would've had to be a very short time before the war officially started, and you knew exactly where she died and who is responsible for killing her!

Right, it was Kirei Kotomine, for whatever reason, Bazett considered him to be some sort of friend and she made the mistake of trusting him, only to get her heart punched out through some sort of sneak attack from the fake priest. Something like that ought to have been impossible though, considering that Lancer should've been watching over his Master and he would've been able to kill Kirei in the blink of an eye. The only problem was that Bazett trusted Kirei so much that she didn't even consider the possibility that he'd attack her, and so she left Lancer outside of her house, a decision that turned out to be a fatal error.

But even knowing all this, would it be possible to convince her about Kirei's true intentions? She thought very highly of the priest, and she'd obviously be reluctant about turning on somebody based on the word of somebody that she didn't know whatsoever. Your memory on Bazett was a little bit fuzzy too, you knew that she could manifest the Noble Phantasm Fragarach and that she idolized her Servant, but would that be enough to convince her? It would be a risk, but now that you'd remembered that she both existed and possibly wasn't dead, you knew that you'd need to seek her out as quickly as you could now, there was no guarantee that she wouldn't be dying tonight or even later in the day!

Rin will have to wait, she'd need some time to prepare herself anyway, and you needed to get your ass to the old Edelfelt mansion on the east side of the city as quickly as you possibly could. You ducked behind a tree before looking around to make sure nobody was watching "Rider... I want you to steal a car."

"Pardon?" Your Servant suddenly manifested next to you as she was curious about what you were getting at all of a sudden.

"You heard me, Rider. I give you my permission to steal a car, your Riding Skill means that you shouldn't need to bother with keys or anything, right?" Riding was a skill that barely ever ended up getting used for riding anything other than the mount the Servant owned, though it could very easily be used even on something like a car or motorbike if you deemed such means of travel necessary.

"That's correct, but why do you want me to do such a thing?" Rider sounded fairly suspicious about suddenly being asked about her driving skills, and though it was quite literally impossible for her to deny one of your requests, you didn't really want to have to force her into doing anything either.

"I need to get somewhere fast. It's kind of unfortunate that you don't have any clothing that allow you to blend in somewhat, but I suppose that without a set of..." you clicked your tongue as you tried to recall the terminology. "Oh, right, without a set of Mystic Eye Killers it's kind of pointless anyway." Rider would need to wear her blindfold everywhere, a tall woman with long purple hair would draw enough looks by herself, something like a blindfold would only exacerbate the problem.

"Mystic..." Rider seemed to be confused by your use of the term, seems like she didn't exactly have much knowledge of the glasses, but that was kind of to be expected, even if Rider had some magecraft knowledge, it's not like she could be called a magus at all.

"A set of eyeglasses constructed using magecraft that sort of... turn off Mystic Eyes while they are being worn. But I don't have any, and I don't have any real way of getting in touch with somebody who sells them in short order either. It just means that you'll unfortunately have to remain in spirit form for most of the day." It really was quite an annoying problem, for as much as you were prioritizing your own survival right now, that didn't mean that you didn't care for the rest of the characters, you'd have to be stupid not to. Fictional or not, now that you'd found yourself in their world, you didn't exactly have any sort of room to judge them on that, who's to say that you weren't fictional too? Caring for everyone else meant that you didn't really want to make any of the characters suffer, you'd seen too much of even your enemies to feel that way. Well, except Gilgamesh and Kirei, but those two were just assholes who were asking for it. Zouken meanwhile... well, he's a pain in the ass to kill, and was actually one of the reasons you kind of wanted an alliance with Caster. Outside of Gilgamesh, there wasn't exactly any Servant in the war who could reliably kill the old worm bastard for good other than her.

"I see." Rider nodded as she took in the information, you felt a little bit bad that you wouldn't be able to get her a pair of the glasses, but now wasn't the time to dwell on it. "Any car in particular?" Rider was already looking out for a vehicle.

"Any will do, I suppose." You didn't mind, so long as the car wasn't tremendously slow or something you could get there in time, hopefully.

"I see." With that in mind, Rider simply walked over to a nearby sports car on the other side of the street and opened the door without issue, quickly getting inside the vehicle and taking a seat behind the wheel.

"Well... that was quick." You couldn't help but note Rider's speed at accomplishing the task set for her, of course despite everything or how she might feel about you herself, she would still relish the opportunity to drive just about anything at high speed. You rushed to the passenger side seat and got into the vehicle. "Alright, I'll try to guide you to the destination as best I can." Fortunately, even if your memories on the layout of the city were a little foggy, you had Shinji's knowledge to rely on, and he was fortunately aware of the old abandoned mansion on the other side of the town. "You'll want to go down this road..."

After about three minutes of incredibly reckless driving on Rider's part, with the car often exceeding speeds of 170kph as it barreled down the streets of Fuyuki while making completely ludicrous turns, your navigating ability was reduced to simply screaming the directions as the g-force slammed you into your seat at immensely high speed, and finally you came to a stop outside a rusted old iron fence.

"T-t-this is the place." Your teeth were chattering as you climbed out of the car, collapsing onto the ground as you tried to stand on the pavement. Your legs had turned to jelly out of a combination of the horrifying g-force exerted on your body and fear for your life. "Next time... can you tone down the speed a little bit, Rider? I feel like I'm going to lose my lunch..." For a moment, you could've sworn that Rider was smirking, but a second look had her taking on a completely neutral face. Hmmph.

"As you wish." Rider kept her response simple as you stared at the mansion. Time to make a decision.

>Break in through the front door, it's the best way to get Bazett's attention, even if it might provoke a fight.
>Sneak in through a window or something, if you don't immediately come off as hostile, it would be for the best.
>Knock on the front door. Why bother sneaking in?
>Just wait for Bazett to leave her house.
>Do something else.

>>5332541
>Break in through the front door, it's the best way to get Bazett's attention, even if it might provoke a fight.

>>5332541
>Knock on the front door. Why bother sneaking in?
Yeah... let's not anger an enforcer.

>>5332541
>Knock on the front door. Why bother sneaking in?

>>5332547
or an unnerfed Cu.

>>5332541
>Knock on the front door. Why bother sneaking in?

>>5332541
>>Knock on the front door. Why bother sneaking in?
I know Lancer is a jobber, but we're a bigger jobber.

>>5332541
>Knock on the front door. Why bother sneaking in?
>>5332551
unnerfed ? btw, if his master died, how did kirei kept control of lancer in the story ?

>>5332574
>unnerfed ? btw, if his master died, how did kirei kept control of lancer in the story ?
Same way every unruly servant is kept under control: Command Spells. Kirei, as the Overseer, has a bunch of command spells to use. Servants can't attack the Master as long as he has at least one command spell remaining. In the story Kirei somehow made a contract with him after he killed Bazett and he then used Cu to scout. To that end, he burned a Command Spell to order him to not win the first time he fights anyone. This is his handicap. Cu doesn't kill Archer and Saber in the first day of the war only because he can't disobey that order.

>>5332541
>Knock on the front door. Why bother sneaking in?
Lets try the subtle approach first.
Also remember that there are a bunch of stuff we could use to if not get her on our side, forge a temporary alliance. Such as Gil still being active and up, the corrupted grail , and the constantly suffering children in Kirei's basement. IF she thinks its bullshit ask her : As a Clocktower enforcer/magus can she truly afford to be wrong here? The Grail could cause a catastrophe that not only could kill a lot of people but jeopardize the secrecy of magecraft. For Gil , well he doesnt have good intentions at least from our perspective , he simply wants the grail to purge the "weaklings" and rule over the remnants after the grail catastrophe. Kirei is a black hearted (literally) false priest who revels in human suffering, oh and we also gotta find a way to kill the old worm bastard.

>>5332584
But yea If no one answers yea knock it down.

>Knock on the front door. Why bother sneaking in?

>>5332541
>Knock on the front door. Why bother sneaking in?

>>5332541
>Knock on the front door. Why bother sneaking in?

>>5332581
>To that end, he burned a Command Spell to order him to not win the first time he fights anyone. This is his handicap.
but why ? was he afraid he had some chance to kill gilgamesh ? if it was about himself, he could just be specific

>>5332700
No, he wasn't afraid of Lancer, and this bites him in the ass in UBW, one of the three routes, where Lancer ends up killing him. He just wanted to get some use out of him with the scouting and rejoice at making Lancer suffer.

>>5332541
>Knock on the front door. Why bother sneaking in?

>>5332541
>>Break in through the front door, it's the best way to get Bazett's attention, even if it might provoke a fight.

>Knock on the front door. Why bother sneaking in?

Whole bunch of samefags

>>5332983
Try not to cry too much.

>>5332983
barely any 1 post ids tho
what do you mean

>>5333050
>he doesn't know

>>5333051
>>5332983
Can you please leave this schizo shit at the door, thanks?

>>5333052
You going to start writing or keep bitching?

>>5333054
Fuck off, retard.

Bitch it is then

>Leave the schizo shit at Bazett's door

Bazett's overwhelming sense of justice represents a threat to Shinji.

>>5333075
Yes she could be dangerous, still would take this risk than the alternatives.

>>5332541
>Knock on the front door. Why bother sneaking in?

WHAT are we even going to tell her? Who think she's not just going to gore us in-site? I'm thinking most of you don't understand the implications of a Grail War, Emiya and Rin are one thing, Bazett is an entire diferente beast. This might just be the FASTEST dead route we can achieve.

>>5333238
faster than fighting zouken?

>>5333267
He might take pity on us and just half-kill us/torture us or do some fucked up shit to us as we are probably a fly to him. If we don't end up donut'd because we thought we had charisma on our side I'd be legit surprised.

>>5333277
But it's daytime and the war technically hasn't started yet, I think from all the candidates Bazett is one that might actually follow the supposed rules

>>5333289
Doesn't mean she will trust us, or she won't shut first and ask questions later. We ARE invadin on her turf unprompted and for all intends and purposes we are an enemy that'd gain quite the advantage if we cut her from the competition early. She might follow the rules, but she isn't dumb, and considering the reputation magus have...

>>5333300
Checked. We don't need to convince her of anything other than being more wary of Kirei, or at the very least keeping Lancer around so she doesn't job instantly. Also, we aren't really invading since votes went for a more cordial approach.

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Not wanting to get yourself or Rider killed by stupidly trying to break into the house that contained a man who could quickly kill you and your Servant without any real effort, you instead decided it would be better to knock. This way Bazett wouldn't automatically assume that she was under attack and may well be willing to listen to you instead of immediately setting Lancer on you.

"Rider, stand by in spiritual form... only intervene if things appear to be going poorly." You quickly told your Servant to hide herself as you raised a hand to knock at the door. You couldn't afford for things to devolve into a battle because you knew that right now while she was weakened, Rider was pretty easily the weakest Servant in the entire Holy Grail War.

Taking a deep breath, you knocked on the ancient wooden door of the house, the door didn't even appear to be locked, and on closer inspection it appeared as if somebody had broken in already, the indent of a boot was visible underneath the lock of the door, which must've been how Bazett got into the house in the first place. Looks like Bazett had just taken the easy route for security and decided to rely upon Lancer to keep her safe as she slept. You supposed that relying on Lancer for something like that wasn't too bad of a decision, and it's not really like a locked door was going to be able to stop any actual enemies in this war anyway... not to mention that it did somewhat help the illusion that the building was totally abandoned by having it be unlocked.

You waited for a few minutes, preparing yourself mentally for the door to open, but nobody came. You started to wonder if you had been too late, and if Bazett had already been killed, but just as you started to think such things, you heard a very faint movement behind the door. It was faint enough that if you weren't paying close attention, you would've missed it entirely.

"What do you want?" The voice behind the door was gruff and rude, and you immediately pegged it for Lancer. "My... uh, the owner of this mansion is sleeping right now, and she's not expecting any visitors. Go away." You supposed that you should count yourself lucky that Lancer hadn't immediately moved to solve the issue with violence, and you could probably thank Bazett for this behavior from him. Though you'd also have thought he might've learned his lesson about attacking first and asking questions later from killing his own son.

Still, you weren't exactly expecting it to be Lancer to come to the door, so you'd probably need to think of some way to convince him to trust you... or you supposed you could just make your excuses and wait for Bazett to leave of her own accord?

>"Lancer, I need to see your Master, I have information that may be of interest to her. I'm from the Clocktower."
>"So, Bazzet managed to summon a Servant after all, did she? Let me guess... you're Cu Chulainn? She always talked about how much she idolized him."
>"Let me in, I'm a seer and I've seen your future as well as that of your master, Sétanta. She's in grave danger."
>"Kirei Kotomine is secretly hiding the fact that he's the Master of a Servant left over from the last war. Do not trust him alone in the same room as your Master under any circumstances."
>Leave without saying a word and wait for Bazett to leave.
>Other

>>5333563
>>"Lancer, I need to see your Master, I have information that may be of interest to her. I'm from the Clocktower."

If he declines, quickly throw
>"Kirei Kotomine is secretly hiding the fact that he's the Master of a Servant left over from the last war. Do not trust him alone in the same room as your Master under any circumstances."

>>5333563
>"Kirei Kotomine is secretly hiding the fact that he's the Master of a Servant left over from the last war. Do not trust him alone in the same room as your Master under any circumstances."
This is ideal, actually. Bazett has known Kotomine for years and trusts him implicitly. We'd have a hard time convincing her if it's our word against his, especially if we start by lying to Lancer in order to speak with her. Lancer has no reason to trust him though or dismiss our warning out of hand. Kirei will never get his chance with Lancer on guard against him. Hopefully our second meeting will result in an alliance, but this is as good as it gets now.

>>5333580
What if Bazett Command Seals Lancer to leave her alone with Kirei? I'm not sure that's out of the question given her trust of him.

>>5333581
I really, really doubt Bazzett would be foolish enough to waste a command spell like that and potentially ruin her relationship with Cu. Remember, she entered this war just to be with him. She doesn't actually care about winning, her wish was granted the moment she summoned him.

>>5333563
>"Kirei Kotomine is secretly hiding the fact that he's the Master of a Servant left over from the last war. Do not trust him alone in the same room as your Master under any circumstances."
The man is more command spell then human

>>5333581
I don't think Bazett would ever command seal Cu to do something he didn't want, he's her childhood hero after all.