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TalOS hated the Warp.

That was something he held close to his heart with every inch the Mechanicum covered in this dreadful dimension. Especially now the tides of the Warp have started to become tenuous and occasionally the ship they were upon would take an impact. These did not stray them off their course but the Primarch felt they were trying to damndest to do just that.

+With our retreat,+ TalOS began to speak the the bridge crew, +The Xenos will likely start to give chase. There is a high likelyhood that the Xenos have also laid a trap for us when we arrive at 3-87-3. If we can get contact, order all ships to prepare for combat the moment we enter the system.+

+Understood Arch Dominus.+ An Adept called out before going back to their duties.

+Arch Dominus!+ A Magos called out as he sent TalOS a series of graphs and data sheets through a direct link, +The Datasmiths have finished the comprehension of the fleet’s data and have realized the concentration of Psychic power was not the planet but the asteroid belt.+

+So my hypothesis is confirmed?+

+There is a 87% chance of that my Lord.+ The Magos answered as he arrived before the command throne, +Shall we parcle this data so that all know what we avoided?+

+We shall, there is no reason to keep the higher functions away from the Magos of their respective ships.+ TalOS declared with a certainty, +It shall also sure up my new hypothesis. While I surely picked a random destination, the Xenos have proven that they are somehow predicting such random chance at least once.+

+I understand Arch Dominus! I shall distribute the data in the communication parcle.+

As those words were finished TalOS noticed the first package of information being sent into the Warp. Thanks to Noosphere technology they were able to send said messages into the warp, as sending messages through was the basis of said tech. If it arrived at the desired target though was definitely up to the Machine God’s power against the Warp’s Denizens.

TalOS felt the weapons began to warm and prepare themselves. The power coursing through the circuits of the Onus Porbandi letting the Primarch know that they were ready. The time to fight was now.

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Several tears in reality began to sprout all across the system. These were but the harbingers for the fleet of the Mechanicum slowly moving itself out of the Warp and into real space once again.

+Raise the iron curtains and let us see our destination. Bask in the Glory that is the Machine God for we have ARRIVED!+ TalOS announced as the speakers blared the words across not only the Onus Probandi but the entire fleet.

Within the second of arriving he felt as a series of probes and detections were sent out across the cosmos. This was standard practice as he wanted to know everything there was.

TalOS felt himself curse as one of the Adepts called out, +Several enemy contacts discovered. Relaying their position now!+

TalOS simply took over the systems as he got a good look at the system. They had arrived between the second and third planet of the solar system. This position might have been okay if they were not on the run like they were but it was definitely not.

All around the map quickly generated of the system there were several flags. These flags were ships that belonged to the enemy fleet and only failed to notice the Mechanicum thanks to the speed of mechanical processing.

There were several ships stretched across the system which meant that they were casting a wide net to try and snare the ships coming haphazardly from the Warp. Clever but they were underestimating the precision of Mechanicum ships even at this range.

TalOS allowed time to move just a few seconds and his horror was founded. Within three seconds of their arrival the enemy ships have began to move themselves towards the fleet that was exiting the Warp.

There were ten ships per planet, with three planets within engagement range of them. That will mean that there will be twenty ships coming from the direction of the system’s sun and ten from outside the system.

This meant, finally, that their previous tactic of shoot and retreat would not work. He would need to issue a new stratagem to get things going.

>Try and break through the smaller force.
>Hunker down and take out the largest targets
>Try and find any purchase to keep distance.

>>5208391
>Try and break through the smaller force.
RAM RAM RAM RAM RAM.

>>5208391
>Try and break through the smaller force.

>>5208391
>Force allocation: First step is to find a planetary body to use as a shield, a planet without anti-orbital weapons is ideal as it will force them to come in at a determinable area.
>Second step is to concentrate all the ships fire upon the smaller forces to chew through them swiftly.
>Step three, as each ship drops out of the warp, have them regroup with the whole or on their own planetary body if they came in a large enough group. When we have two groups, we can catch anyone who dogpiles the first in a ranged pincer with the other group.

Best plan I got so far.

>>5208391
>Try and break through the smaller force.

Prepare our largest vessels to ram. Our smaller vessels shall screen for them and exploit the openings they make to escape.

>>5208391
>Try and break through the smaller force.
>write-in
1. We are not here to engage in a protacted conflict but to raid. The raid is over and the jig is up. We are achieving our goal of convincing the enemy to follow us and not pursue lucius.
2. It then supposes that the enemy is no doubt also going to follow us from the previous point of ambush as well as follow us here
3. We must ensure we remain at or beyond the Mandeville point and away from the gravity well of the planet while we charge up our warp drives for another flight. Perhaps if we are fortunate the enemy was expecting to hold us here, and have not prepared additional ambushes elsewhere. Never the less we should try to make good our withdrawal
4. In order to achieve this we should consider the facts. The enemy has superior ranged firepower than us, but they are poorer in melee. Typically we have done hit and runs but this will not suffice
5. Suggestion: divert all power away from the weapons to the shields and propulsion systems. Prepare boarders. Were going to try and crash through the thinnest point in the enemies net that leads to a suitable warp exit zone. When we get close, we will perform heavy board assaults to cripple the enemy ships focusing on shields, warp drives, and weapons. With those disabled, our weapons can then fire and disable the external engines and weapons and from there make good our flight to the next system leaving behind a number of the defenders fleet crippled. Concentrate our force into an effective spearhead to achieve this effect.

We still hold the advantage in melee.

>>5208391
>Try and break through the smaller force.

Part of me imagines an participative enemy with good warp exit capabilities will have predicted we intend to punch through a weaker point, and prepare to engaged us by dropping out of warp there.

"Make a golden path for your for", as the ancient Magi Dominus would say.

I ponder how we might counter this possibility. Perhaps if we exploit the fact that space is 3 dimensional, rather than treating it as 2.

>>5209046
*anticipative
Not participative

>>5209046
I think you give them way too much credit. Not even the Web Way is capable of pinpoint arrival into a system. If you have a Navigator you likely arrive at the jump points, which is the reason certain planets can act as Fortress Worlds.

>>5209117
I suppose so.
Still, I simply imagine that while they can potentially track us if they have a good psyker and the simple fact they have astropathic communications and navigators, their range exceeds ours as does their general warp capability so in a straight up conventional chase they have a slight advantage.

Which means we should try and think unconventionally

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Hmmm, different idea guys. How do you feel about this.

We are between the 2nd and 3rd planet of the system, each planet has 10 ships plus a wide net of "several" ships trying to contain us. 20 ships coming from sunward, 10 from out system and some others.

Rather than trying to break through the smaller force (and still allow the others to fire at us) and also potentially put us in a position where the fleet following us can get to us easily what if we tried to use the gravity wells of the nearby planets, ram through ships in that direction, and then slingshot ourselves to the next nearest mandeville point to make good our warp out of here?

It would take time and energy for the enemy ships to try and chase us by reversing their own momentums, plus we could use the planets themselves as a bit of cover.

In the very least, putting the planets gravity well away from the direction of the place we came from means if an enemy fleet is chasing us and drops out of warp they have to drop out of warp on the mandeville points opposite where we are.

>>5209117
Is this image semi-accurate to what you've written or is there a better placement description?
Would this idea work? Trying to slingshot via gravity wells and also putting them between us and where the enemy fleet may be following us?

>>5209186
Damn I do like the idea of using the gravity to give us a boost, plus we have the processing power to get it done quick and precise! We'd have to get rid of any ships that get in our way... About 20?

>Full speed ahead, do not slow down. Into the gravity well we go!

>>5209186
You forget there is a thing known as an Intercept Course...

>>5209285
Yes, he did forgot that! But I think we will enter the gravity well just at the right time, so we will have to fight a little less than those 30 ships for a little while as we accelerate.
Sadly I can't bother to look for what is the acceleration rate of said maneuver..

>>5208391
>Try and find any purchase to keep distance.
This is kind of our strength isnt it?
The Mitu are more used to fight orks and those often get close, meaning the Mitu have more experience with that kind of fighting style, so we should avoid it.
I kind of make this sound like we should fight like Tau dont I?

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>>5209425
I think our strength should indeed be to try and destroy the enemy from range where possible. However the Mitu I think have learned not to fight the Orks at close. That is inefficient at best suicide at worst. Mitu ships have a lot of fire power and shields too, so their numerical superiority plays to their advantage in the dakka phase. I'd say the difference between us and the Tau is that when push comes to shove, we are still capable of close quarters fighting. We excel at range, but we still have the armor, the weight, and the manpower of the imperium and the acillians to perform in melee where they are options to us. The bayonet to our plasma guns, where the Tau have none.

It's just that right now, we are are not fighting at our most ideal but with what we have. The ideal of our warfare I think should be one that any techpriest can agree with, technological and matériel superiority. To outproduce your foes, to make one or two or five ships for every one of his and for every dead servitor or tech thrall 10 more to replace them,.

As one of our brother Perturabo's son so well put it:
>"The greatest warrior of a Legion cannot shoot if his bolter is without ammunition. The deadliest super-heavy tank cannot crush the enemy beneath its tracks without oceans of fuel, and the heaviest artillery cannot pound fortifications without a constant supply of shells. The duty of an Iron Warrior is to win any war as quickly and efficiently as possible"
Or as Akurduana of the Emperor's Children spoke about the Iron Hands, who also understand this principle:
>"Superior armour. Superior firepower. Superior numbers. Sometimes I wonder how you Ironhands would cope with the odds stacked against you"

>>5209493
You're thinking too Macro. Your Doctorine of combat is Range makes Gains. Use superiors range to pepper the enemy before they can get close. You only go into close range as the Xenos are at their most capable when at medium range so you decided that its best to be in close range to use your turrets.

That's the issue I presented to you. With a pincer maneuver coming from both sides the standard 'keep them at range' is no longer valid.

Go towards the smaller force
>>5208415
>>5208417
>>5208501
>>5208767
>>5208598

Someone does not understand the post
>>5208421

Ultimately keep distance
>>5209425

>>5208421
>>5209186
You know, I mocked these but here I'm using the ideas in the post. This is once again a reason why I never really look down upon write ups and theories unless they don't really relate to the situation. Doing these, even if not taking the full situation into consideration, means its material to use.

>>5209621
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_assist#/media/File:GravAssis.gif
mmm gif. I am not sure if the mech ships would be faster relative to the other ships. Maybe the planets pull everything evenly...

>>5209659
Well really its a change in direction using the planet as a sort of pivoting point. If we are trying to figure out by how much it turns we would need to know for how long the ship would potentially in contact with the planet and how fast they were traveling.

Look, its a Primarch. Which the reasoning for the ideas are not sound your about to see what those ideas can bring.

>>5209663
KANSAI DRIFTO????? IN SPACE

Also can we give our waifu an extra set of arms? https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/5162034 for no particular reason

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TalOS looked at the situation and looked at it again. His mind was quickly running through the plans and ideas that he kept coming up with but ultimately he found them moot. Well, moot in the fact that they were not all going to make it out of this.

TalOS scanned the ships that were present and noticed what he had been hoping for. He sent a ping towards the ship and the ping was quickly returned with an uplink to the Tech Priest he was trying to reach.

+Arch Dominus, it seems the Xenos have grown crafty.+ Dux DOminus H3VST said as he demonstrated towards the display.

+Something like this was bound to happen.+ TalOS declared as he gave a small rumble, +We are in enemy territory and have no place that we are for sure is secured. We have relied on randomness but the Xenos have found a way to plan around randomness.+

+A sorcery perhaps?+ The Dux Dominus asked as he sent a series of potentially marked rituals, +None of these show the capability of telling the future but they potentially eliminate randomness. Do you think they have potentially perfect these while on the frontlines?+

TalOS thought to himself for a moment before his mind reached back to a moment he did not want to remember, +These Xenos play with the Warp. Such a realm is but a mystical place where we can barely. Maybe these Xenos have found something like time manipulation using its tides.+

+Foresight…+ The Dux Dominus allowed that to settle for a moment.

+I am sure that they do not have unlimited resources.+ TalOS declared as he gesture towards the ships, +Before we might have had a pitched battle but now we ultimately outnumber them. Thus I propose that we break out through their weakest point and give us enough time recover our Warp Drives for another exit.+

+I find your reasoning sound. We shall leave the manner of their mysterious foresight to the future and focus on the now.+ Declared the Dux Dominus, +I shall start plotting cordinates.+

+Do so and prepare boarding parties.+ TalOS declared as he looked towards the enemy, +As we are running straight towards them we might as well ram them.+

+Understood Arch Dominus.+

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TalOS felt the Onus Probandi slowly move itself towards the third planet and engage on all thrusters. The force of the machines were grand in their making and with a few subtle calculations he was able to get those few extra units of acceleration.

As they did this numerous other ships were popping out of the Warp around them. All of them were Mechanicum ships, which TalOS was thankful for. If they had already started dropping into the system it would have spelled the death of their fleet. That was not the case however so with every minute that went by the fleet was growing bigger and bigger.

After what TalOS found to be three minutes the Xenos started sending an orderly series of fire against the ships. Several volts of plasma and warpflame crossed the void shields and soon crossed into the metal hulls of a Mechanicum ship. The ship after a half minute of intense firepower fell with an erupting in fire.

TalOS watched this happened and looked towards the enemy ships that were going the same tactic he had done against them. That was a simple falling back and looking for firing solutions that allowed them the most time.

There had to be something that could be done about that. And that something came into his mind as he noticed the readings from the newly discovered third planet.

+I want gravitation readings done based on that planet.+TalOS declared as he began to realize the future in his mind.

+Readings started.+ A Magos stated from the Sensory station.

TalOS nodded to those words as he took the moment to allow his eyes to study the planet. They were weak from the numerous exposure to nullification but ultimately he started to grow something that he could use.

+Readings sent.+ Announced the Magos as TalOS received the package of vital information.

+Running calcualtions.+ TalOS announced as he let his mind be enveloped by the data.

As another ship of his fell the Primarch realized what he needed out of the data. He ran his hypothesis through his Machine Spirits and they slowly began to support his thesis. He then placed it forward and sent the data package to his fellow for a moment’s review.

There were no words on the return. All that was attached to the file was a digital signature of peer review from the Dux Dominus.

Thus the scheme was put into effect.

>>5209668
If you are going to post a girl with multiple arms for a techpriestess, you have to use mistral.
Perfect Order is the best ending

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Upon receiving the new coordinates the ships of the Mechanicum began to change their direction. While the change was moderately dramatic the fine tuned solution could only have been employed by the priests of the Mechanicum.

The Mitu Collection surely realized the change in direction and began moving for interception. TalOS was sure they were predicting they were going to hide behind the planet to use it as a makeshift shield against their assault. That would surely have been TalOS’s own first thought.

Normally when someone uses astral bodies to defend their ships it involves a certain decision. This decision was whether to flush out the enemy or let them fester behind their makeshift shielding. When it came down to it sieging stellar craft that were warp capable was something really stupid to do as once their manner of entering the Warp was allowed they could easily exit into it.

Thus, TalOS forced them to make only one decision in trying to flush them out of his defence. This meant that the Mitu would not only mistaken this as a retreat but also have to get closer to the planet as it was the most optimal path to take.

A total of seven Tartarus ships were lost as TalOS finally got a full view of the planet they were approaching. The place looked to be a frozen world being covered in a thick layer of white snow at the moment. It was a larger than average sized planet, which meant it had a greater than average gravitational pull.

It was gradual over a minute, but once they began to turn he felt the full force of the planet. The planet, though thoughtless, was trying its damndest to tear apart the numerous ships that were now caught in its gravitational orbit. If they were just a few meters closer they likely would have been drawn into the gravity well and become a wreckage.

They did not, and for a moment they traveled without a single bolt of plasma striking them. This backwater world acted as a shield against the incoming fleet that would have surely killed many more if they had attacked directly. Instead as the Mechanicum flowed over the planet the ships were getting closer. This meant that they were several minutes of movement of travel where the Mitu themselves were closing the gap and giving the Mechanicum no cost for such movement.

TalOS allowed himself a breath. As they began to pass the planet’s single moon he knew what would happen. His blood and pumping and the desire for destruction was starting to erupt through it. This was an influence of Particep Semper surely, but he could not deny the feeling he got when a plan was coming together.

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It felt that as soon as they hit the planet they were already around it. Before them was the ten ship fleet of the Mitu going head first towards them. The ships were foolishly moving towards the Mechanicum at full speed and surely they had noticed their error when the Mechanicum came rouding about the planet.

It was too late for them.

With the gravitational pull of the planet the fleet of over sixty ships in total started to round the planet and were being sent at max speed. It was only thanks to the gravitational that they made such such a sharp change and kept their speed.

As stated before, the Mitu were not ready for the impact.

The first ship to make contact with their ships was a Tartarus class ship. While such a ship would normally have barely made a dent against a cruiser the two ships impacted with a force that TalOS felt over the Noosphere network. The signs of immediate destruction and destructions of systems was enough for TalOS to confirm that he made the right plan.

Of course that was not the only ship as many other Tartarus Class ships began slamming into the ten ships and battering them to the Warp. One of the ships were crimpled by the attacks and soon exploded in a fire of plasma and crystal as the Tartarus Class ship disengaged from the target.

It was soon TalOS’s turn as the Onus Probandi directed towards what was likely the Flagship for the small fleet. It would be a direct his but even with such a tactically sound move they would need to finish the ship off with either gunfire or boarders.

TalOS was about to order the borders to the station but then realized something. They were not going to stay in the system, they would be leaving. While it was the most efficient and likely destroy the remnants with little cost to the fleet, there will not be enough time to recover them.

If they were lucky, after the war was over, they would be found. But the Machine God definitely did not have enough power to make such a thing happen.

>Do not send the boarding parties
>Send only those who agree to such a fate
>They are Servants of the Machine God, they knew the risk.

>>5209676
>Do not send the boarding parties

I should state, if its not obvious, the amount of life lost when sending boarding crews is less than if you simply shoot the ships. The difference is whether you willingly send both your sons and Skitarii to their death.

>>5209681
In thay case I'm changing my vote to
>Send only those who agree to such a fate
>>5209678

>>5209674
Ahem, you're part of the Mechanicum. The average amount of arms and legs are roughly 3 for both.

>>5209676
>>Do not send the boarding parties
Talos does not see his people as numbers and that has been beneficial so far. Why change it.
PLUS THE MITU HAVEN'T CAPTURED ANYONE YET!!!! DO NOT allow them to capture someone because then we are screwed

>>5209699
Shit, the capture part is a very good point.
I think I will wait for a bit more discussion so I don't keep jumping between votes.

>>5209702
I mean, you are not holding the system so there are bound to be captured people on the ships that were destroyed.

We must remember that in choosing not to intentionally send our sons, we are also choosing to have more of our other sons die at random of greater number. I cannot imagine Talos would not also consider this. OOC we should consider ourselves lucky, for other legions suffer maladies of the mind that result in such things as the moritat.

Ideally we'd send servitors and some more replaceable castellans. But seeing that we cannot.

>>5209699
A way to avoid this is to ensure those we send are rigged with enough explosives, both large ones carried by servitor and upon their bodies, and missions to deliver their payload and detonate. Ensuring that not even a single trace of them remains.

This will prevent their capture and exploitation.

I'm not yet decided.
I will say if we choose to do sacrifice, we are not alone among all the primarchs. Even Sanguineous, Vulkan or Guilliman have examples and would choose to sacrifice a few if it serves the greater victory and spares the lives of many. I do think Talos would only pick volunteers, and do so at random for perhaps many of our sons would volunteer. It would not be considered shameful, but an example of honor, of duty fulfilled. Only in death does duty end. Their names would ring in the halls of Lucius.

If we choose not to, if we place such high value on our sons that we would go against the holy algorithms of the equation of life, it would whether we like to or not, create a precedent that could one day be exploited. If we are reluctant to sacrifice our sons, even when need present and they be willing, our enemies will be able to exploit this.

We will one day anyone command entire armies of mortals, servitors and skitarii to risk their lives. To be too thrifty with them may risk being overly foolish, like McLellan, not wanting to risk even minor sacrifices for the greater goal.

Just my two bits, havent even decided myself but I kinda feel we should let the volunteers go if they so fervently desire to save their brothers lives.

>>5209704
In this case if we cannot absolutely ensure that even with explosives we will avoid capture I vote
>no, do not send our sons

We cannot imagine captures will never happen, they will eventually one day. But every day we can avoid them is paramount. The risks are great if the enemy learn even some of our knowledge and capabilities.

What bothers me is that all of our sons would volunteer, maybe even fight for the honor of dying for their father and their brothers. And let's not even mention the skitarii "I can totally kill four enemies before being brutalized by the enemy psyker!"

>>5209717
That's not even unique.
That's every space marine who has a good relationship with their father.
And even those who dont, if out of fear of shame. Like the sons of Pert and Angron.

The Emperors Angels of death may think they know no fear, but all at heart share the same fear of failure.

If we did have to we'd likely just pick among the volunteers by holy algorithim, sparing the officers of greater need by default.

>>5209676
>Send only those who agree to such a fate

>>5209676
>Send only those who agree to such a fate

I do hope if we absolutely choose to send our sons we offer them such a massive amount of explosives and incendiary that their very atomic bonds will divide into the motive force.

>>5209676
>Do not send the boarding parties
Our sons are important and not disposable!

So you all know, the value of a few hundred Acillians are not comparable to an entire ship. As it is obvious here you guys are placing the Acillians and Skitarii above all else, that many will recognize the decision. Good or bad.

>>5209862
I guess I should adjust my numbers to like, thirty Acillians. Anything more than 50 Space Marines is actually pretty much worth a ship. Still people will take notice of the emotional possibility.

>>5209862
>>5209863
Is the risk of capture still unable to be lowered to null even with provisions of ample amounts of explosives? We know it's a one way trip, so give them a one way ticket in the form of a glorious explosion and wroth of machine god

>>5209876
Explosives, it will probably empty your supplies. If you give the parameters your men will follow through with no question. Remember, you are essentially leading the Mechanical Tibetan Taliban of Space at the moment. They do not care if they are lost for the Priests have surely made sure their lives were worth the lose.

>>5209881
I suppose the final question then is if the lost in explosives is worth the prevention of the capture of a single acillian.

Releasing an acillian body or much worse an acillian themselves and giving the mitu hitherto ungained access to them could prove devastating in the long run.

But having no explosives is also a risk to our continued fight.
But then, even more so is ship losses. Better to lose explosives than ships or the security of the information of our acillians.

Given the information I suppose I'll change my vote
>Allow volunteers
>Divvy out explosives, deadman switches, and self termination programs to ensure no acillian is captured alive for interrogation or dead for autopsy , and that skitarii will also not captured even if by psychic intervention. For the skitarii blowing up the brain should be sufficient
We'll also of course strive to blow up those ships who are boarded as we pass by them wherever appropriate

It must be seen that we adhere to the battle algorithms, and that logic must be obeyed, not irrational emotion. Our sons can feel pride knowing we have permitted their sacrifice to save many, than withheld them for no gain but only more grievous losses. Else they could despair at the death and destruction and ask 'we could have done this instead, willingly' and ask why we did not permit it. How could we justify that?

>>5209676
>They are Servants of the Machine God, they knew the risk.

>>5210001
>Divvy out explosives, deadman switches, and self termination programs to ensure no acillian is captured alive for interrogation or dead for autopsy , and that skitarii will also not captured even if by psychic intervention. For the skitarii blowing up the brain should be sufficient

Additional to vote. It's a war - your subordinates risk their lives through your actions or inactions. They knew the risk, seldom subordinates who see the start of war will see it's end. They're your currency, you must spend them well and in death does their duty end.

>>5209676
>Dont send borders
Fuck no, our space marines are not going to be wasted like that

It's not a waste if QM says more will die if nothing happens

>>5209676
>Send only those who agree to such a fate
>>5210005
>Support

>>5210079
Fine I change from >>5210076 to
>Those who volunteer.

And support >>5210005

>>5209676
>Do not send the boarding parties

>>5209890
>Support

Don't do it
>>5209678
>>5209851
>>5210100

Send Volunteers
>>5210083
>>5210001
>>5209688
>>5209890
>>5210195
>>5210088
>>5210088

I can feel the gears of everyone's brains trying to wrap around the situation, and honestly its heartening. Anyways, do check and make sure I counted everyone's votes right as we did have a few changes in the crowd.

>>5210641
The likes of S4DD4M HUS31N will be remembered. Deus Mechanicus

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>>5210657
Our following is strong!

>>5210685
For once the censored german version actually makes sense.

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There were a lot of things TalOS had to weigh when it came down to it. He would send his sons and soldiers out to a guaranteed death if he allowed the boarding to happen.

Many things had to be calculated as TalOS thought to himself. The chances of them becoming prisoners was high but then again it would be mitigated. Though in truth that did not really matter as ultimately there were going to be prisoners from the other destroyed ships that would be collected.

No, what TalOS feared was sending his own sons to their deaths. It was as simple as that. He did not want them to become experiments or test subjects to the dreadful psyker. To be subject to the monsterous whim of creature’s whose full power and might came from the warp.

Thus he hooked himself up to all coms units that belonged to those, Acillian and Skitarii, who were preped and ready to board.

+My Sons and Soldiers of the Machine God.+ TalOS began as he received each of them, +What you are about to embark upon is a suicide mission. You will not be returning to the fleet for we won’t have the time to stage a recovery.+

TalOS allowed a moment for those words to sink in to all who could hear, +I give two parameters for the mission. First, I am not demanding you attend the mission. If you leave now I will make sure that nothing happens to you for that choice. Your life and potential knowledge are all great assets to the Machine God. Leave now if you desire.+

TalOS waited a moment but noted that not even the Tech Priests who would be boarding abandoned their position.

So TalOS continued, +You are all to carry as much explosive as possible to the boarding. When your death is imminent, you are to self destruct. If you see your fellow fall who has not self destructed you are to detonate his munitions. We will only leave gore and visceral behind for the xenos to discover afterwards. Do so now, you have two minutes.+

Upon those words TalOS felt affirmations and directions taken while everyone quickly started to move themselves across the complexe. Those that TalOS quickly alerted to the duty moved any munitions to the boarding troops to minimize the time they were here.

As they did so, TalOS watched as the enemy ship drew within only a few kilometers from him.

It was then that they had an impact.

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The force of the Onus Probandi was enough to nearly shatter the lone cruiser that they attacked. The ship had been battered and crawled for numerous occasions and this here was the que de gra of the attacks.

It was not the only one, but it meant that there was one less ship within the fleet.

Quickly after the destruction of the enemy ship TalOS felt the munitions of the Onus Probandi unload into the nearby ships with a full broadside. While a single broadside would not have crimpled the ships TalOS had closely calculated both the locations of the shots and the amount of damage that the ships have already gotten. It was enough to disable another of their ships.

With the impact done TalOS moved his attention to the boarding teams. With a simple thought TalOS gave them the go ahead. Upon his singular command they launched boarding torpedos at not only the nearest ships, but all the ships that were still standing within the fleet that will still be standing. It was a simple calc. Since the Onus Probandi was not the only Cruiser to have ram one of its Xenos counter parts. Said Xenos ship was still alive after the first, but it did not survive the second ramming by another of the ships.

With the other cruisers in the area they too set off their boarding torpedos. Much to the enemy’s terror they were now fighting off a fully armed and suicidal group that knew to make the most of their lives now.

TalOS wanted to monitor the situation but he could not. The ships that were either destroyed or boarded were now minor in comparison to the incoming fleet of twenty ships that were approaching them.

Distance was there though and TalOS had the Tartarus class ships align themselves and begin to fire into the enemy with accuracy and precision. The shots carried themselves through space and slammed into a single ship of the fleet with precision. It was a devistating attack that spelled the end of that single ship and sent it into the oblivion of space.

With the cover of gun fire the remainder of the Mechanicum fleet finally routed themselves with the Onus Probandi. TalOS commanded each and every vessel to send its gunfire into the ships in an attempt to demonstrate that the Mechanicum fleet meant business.

They did not stop, and it was quickly found out why.

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+Psi Scanners have picked up new signals.+ Declared a Magos as they sent the new readings to TalOS, +A new fleet is coming into the system!+

To TalOS’s horror numerous portals began to open up across the space the Xenos held. Slowly ships began to emerge from what was nearly a hundred portals that soon beckoned nearly a hundred ships.

TalOS quickly figured it out. This was the fleet that was meant to ambush the Mechanicum from the system before.

This was a battle they could not win.

+If we were to employ measures of retreat will we be safe to engage in Warp Travel?+

There was a moment’s chatter among the noosphere but the result did come from their most esteemed Magos, +We will be able to retreat out of the enemy’s range and engage the warp drives. We will lose ships, but far less than if we engage the enemy.+

+Then we will start the retreat.+ TalOS declared as he looked towards the ships that had his sons and soldiers upon them, +Your sacrifice was admirable. I shall not forget any of your names.+

And with that the fleet began to retreat by using the planet as a shield. The enemy might be in range soon but the with the planetary body in the way they would be able to leave without another shot fired against them.

As the Warp Drives began to warm themselves TalOS got a signal. The Primarch noticed the source and quickly linked, +Decarii D4M! Why have you contacted me!?+

+They have the ability to read the future!+ Declared the Acillian straight out, +Here is the information.+

TalOS felt a package arrive into his system and the Primarch realized, +Why did you…+

+As I am to die, the risk of contaminating the ranks of the Acillian are minimal. I am sorry to have not asked your permission Father.+ The Acillian said as TalOS noticed a change in the Acillian’s vitals, +Good bye.+

The last thing TalOS received was the confirmation of his son’s detonation. The mission and lives came first, and TalOS studied the records with the realization that the enemy were indeed using choirs to predict their movement.

There were things they could do, but TalOS liked none of them. He did however reach over and snared the Blackstone so that his next thought could not be seen by the Warp.

>Scramble the fleet and set everyone’s final destination to Lucius. With so many locations/predictions they will be overwhelmed.
>Using null tech, try and mask a majority of the fleet while letting the rest lead the enemy on a wild goose chase.
>They are stronger, together
>Write ins

Your sons deaths were not in vain.

>>5210709
>Scramble the fleet and set everyone’s final destination to Lucius. With so many locations/predictions they will be overwhelmed.

>>5210714
Actually, if only one ship gets captured or they find the black box of the order, they will find the way to Lucius with that vote.
I'm changing to
>Using null tech, try and mask a majority of the fleet while letting the rest lead the enemy on a wild goose chase.

>>5210709
what the hell does this mean.
They are stronger, together

>>5210734
The Xenos will look into the future and find out your next destination, no matter what kind of random occurrence you try to pull.

>>5210742
so then what does that option do.
the way you're putting it sounds like a surrender option.

>>5210744
I guess I wrote it wrong. Stay as a large fleet and try to ram through any form of resistance that the enemy could bring to bare.

>>5210747
In that case. I vote for.
>Using null tech, try and mask a majority of the fleet while letting the rest lead the enemy on a wild goose chase.

>>5210718
You know, maybe we should take one for the team and stop using the necklace when we trick the Xenos, that way our presence is more noticible while the masked fleet is less.

>>5210709
>>Using null tech, try and mask a majority of the fleet while letting the rest lead the enemy on a wild goose chase.
GODDAMN IT, WE HAVE TO SACRIFICE EVEN MORE OF OUR BRETHREN AS A DIVERSION.
How tf are we defending against all this in time...

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>>5210709
>Write ins
Ahem. This is a mighty fleet indeed. Indeed, such are the enemies strategy that is to amass such overwhelming force that we would have done in their shoes. It would take an equally mighty force to challenge them and their psychic prowess. Such capability is not in our hands.

But that doesn't mean it isn't out there. Take the fleet on a cut through Ork Space, it shouldn't be hard to find, the WAAAGH should read on our maps and psy scanners like a big giant green furnace. We know from history with the Orks that they seem to have some sort of large static background effect upon the warp.

The enemy fleet will be forced either to follow us into Ork space, or disengage. But I believe the enemy admiral proud and dogged enough that he will follow us. We will lure them into the largest concentration of Ork roks and ships we can find, where the Orks will want to target the greater fight: the Mitu fleet. In Ork Space, we can then more succesfully try to fleet back to Lucius, where their ability to psychically predict our movements will be thwarted by the background WAAAGH static. We can then activate the null tech, further hiding us from both the Mitu and also the Ork Gitfinders and Status Reporta's. We will hide away, lost into the psychic storm of the Orks as they howl and rage in delight at the gift of a massive fleet we have given to them.

Because if there's any place and any people prone to unpredictability, its the foul Greenskins. We will use one enemy to destroy and throw off another!

and if QM is so willing, we might even give our future Ork Mekboss rival a gift of a good fight and some fresh materials.

>>5210709
>Using null tech, try and mask a majority of the fleet while letting the rest lead the enemy on a wild goose chase.

>>5210747
Hey QM could this even work or are we too far from orc space (very likely especially with our shorter warp range).

>>5210813
You'd probably start running into Orks before hitting offical 'Ork Space' since the Orks are infact leaking out.

>>5210808
Oh god that sounds absolutely crazy enough to work
>supporting this

then I'll change from this >>5210758
to >>5210808

Okay, based and Risky as fuck. I wanted to change my vote to this BUT!
I do fear that we will have to fend off the ork attacks until the mitu get there, IF THEY get there. Big if, because if they don't, what do we do with all this orks against us?

>>5210821
well, the orks don't have future sight so we can just scatter and head back to Lucius.

>>5210821
We Parley and tell them there's an even bigger and better fight just right behind us. If that fails, we activate our Null Field generators and convert our void shields to a wavelength of the color purple. Which has been known to cause some Ork gitfinda's to have difficulties for as yet unknown reasons

>>5210822
Also this.

>>5210823
do we know about the purple ork thing?

>>5210825
I mean, maybe? The only thing is that Ork colors only affect Orks for the most part.

>>5210825
Well in that particular spoiler I'm just jesting. I do think Mezoa and Dutonis would have had some on and off historical battles with the occasional Ork raiders though
Or is it really a jest and not true? Only QM would know for sure

>>5210830
Everyone has fought Orks. Everyone!

>>5210831
Even Orks! Specially Orks!

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>>5210829
But QM!

Adeptus Mechanicus variants of standard Imperial technology are typically more efficient and effective. More of its automated systems are active, reloading mechanisms in place rather than 10,000 human slaves to load a shell for example, and the machine spirits are better attended to and maintained. 1 for 1, an Admech vehicle or ship runs in a superior manner to its standard Imperial counterpart. This also extends to things such as ship engines and propulsions. This even extends to our infantry, particularly that many of them have eschewed their biological training for bionic limbs and mechanical forms able to march further, run faster, without tiring.

The vast majority of Admech infantry, vehicles and ships are red.

Ergo, it can be statically be shown that DA RED ONES GO FASTAH. EVEN FOR DA 'UMIES.

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>>5210834
I got one answer for you.

White Scars

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Rolled 96 (1d100)

>>5210838
counter Lucky blue bastards.

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>>5210841
Counter-Counter

The Sneakiest gits in the land:

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>>5210844
Second sneakiest*

>>5210848
You don't disprove my point.

>>5210709
>>5210808
>Support
That just might be crazy enough to work!

>>5210758
In support this.

>>5210808
>+1 Supporting this

>>5210808
Just curious, are you attempting to accomplish this as one big fleet or employ one of the other solutions?

>>5210709
>>5210808
>supporting this
If I remember correctly, we where equipped for encountering Orks anyway, when we left Lucius.

>>5210808
>Supporting

>>5211473
We should arrive there as one big fleet, and then when we are as close as to inside the Ork WAAGH field or nearby activate some null field for an effect to shrink our presence against theres. But as to answer your question, I don't think I can speak for all of us anons. I will instead at least try to analyze the different options and consider what I think Tal0s would do.

>Scramble the fleet and set everyone’s final destination to Lucius. With so many locations/predictions they will be overwhelmed.
Risk:
High, for ourselves and our fleet. The enemy may scatter and demolish our ships, and surround ourselves. There is also the risk of many of them being lost to the warp. We already lost one Ark Ship that way, how much more our fleet?
Cons: We have little to no control over overall defensive strategy from there, and can only hope that most ships make back. We lose all cohesion.

>Using null tech, try and mask a majority of the fleet while letting the rest lead the enemy on a wild goose chase.
Risk: Our personal risk is massive, if we make ourselves the bait (which we should). But it gives our fleet a better chance of survival and making it to Lucius intact.
Cons: Again, lack of control, but this is somewhat hopefully mitigated by having our other larger fleet be stronger together as they retreat to Lucius while we make our own more daring escape. I don't think anyone else acting as the bait will work, given we have the psychic Sight.

>They are stronger, together
This is the least risky option for us, but of course, the least likely to succeed if our goal is to throw the enemy off a course to Lucius. The Orks in general are there to hopefully mitigate that risk, at least, by disrupting their future sight. But this is no guarantee.

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The middle option seems results in a better chance of our fleet survival, and allows us to draw the enemy away from Lucius. It is however, the highest personal risk option. One that I don't think Talos would be keen on taking. The only upshot is maybe we can try to personally boost our engines given we are no longer focused on fighting, but running the heck away. For Talos, who considers his life greatly, I would say he would consider more the third. But if he happens to be feeling plucky, the 2nd is the logical action.

In this situation, I would consult the Holy Algorithims of success and potentially his aspect as the Randomized Numeral God.

If I absolutely had to choose, I'd just stick the whole fleet together and hope the Ork WAAAGH field is enough.

Null Tech
>>5210714
>>5210795
>>5210811

Use the Orks!
>>5210808
>>5210815
>>5210927
>>5211229
>>5211484
>>5211491
>>5210817

>>5211669
ork it is...

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As the Blackstone settled upon his chest TalOS began to think and plan. His mind reached for the numerous details that somehow could lead to his victory against the Xenos.

Being able to see into the future was something that was being thrown around. But were there ways to really counter such a technique besides scrambling or shrouding your presence?

It was at this moment that TalOS felt himself realize something, +Magos N4VI, How close are we to the Ork held space?+

The Magos thought to himself before gathering numerous pieces of information that was about the systems of the Onus Probandi. TalOS could feel the man trying to process the information that so many would have faltered to.

+We are five jumps from Ork held space. Based on previous predictions we will start making contact with them in three jumps.+

+Sensory, are we able to pick up the possible energies of the Orks? From my understanding there was a theory that they were psychic beings.+

+Background activity has been a constant finding Arch Dominus.+ Answered the Magos, +It has been growing stronger and stronger these last few weeks.+

TalOS allowed himself a moment of calm thought as he processed the possible fate. The idea he had come up with was a wild one. One that was so insane that he was sure the Xenos would be driven insane from his train of thought.

With a thought he linked up with the Dux Dominus, +H3VST, I have a proposal that I shall seek your support for. There is a 23% chance that we are ostracized and stripped of our rank if we follow through with it.+

+Arch Dominus…+ The surprised words of the Dux Dominus rang in TalOS’s ears, +If it can save the fleet I will happily take the burden with you.+

+I propose that we steer the fleet in a hot chase to the region of confirmed Ork infestation and use the Orks to clean the Xenos off of us.+ TalOS proposed.

It was a few seconds at first, and then a full minute of silence. Every second here was vital and the Dux Dominus surely knew that. He however needed to think long and hard about the words. Since he was taking his time TalOS sent him a quickly made report that was sure to open his eyes.

After seventy three seconds the Dux Dominus spoke, +By the Machine God. If we fail in this I will personally see you turned into a scrap heap before throwing myself into a compactor.+

TalOS simply smiled at those words.

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To say that the scheme went well with the crew was a lie. Every single person within the crew seemed to have stopped for several cycles as they realized what exactly TalOS instructed them to fully plan out. They were however the easier ones as TalOS knew the others would be harder.

So he did not even bother with formality.

+Under my authority as Arch Dominus I hereby declare the activation of Protocol 1.+ TalOS declared as he invoked character override, +I am now issuing travel plans for the coming trip. Failure to follow my commands will result in termination.+

TalOS could just feel the panic and horror that went through the ships as they all received the data parcel. It was a scheme that none with an ounce of standard logic would have thought off the bat and many would have called TalOS out for it and have him tried.

That was the magic of Protocol 1. In times of peril the highest ranking member of the Mechanicus has ultimate authority. The issues with that decision is that if invoked a trial date is immediately ruled out after the time of terror is over. TalOS will need to answer for each and every one of his decisions from here onwards.

He will accept any punishment if it meant that he could save his fleet and by extension Lucius.

+Coordinates finalized and travel plan ready to implement.+

+Good.+ TalOS said as he looked directly into the void, +Have we received correspondence from our sister craft?+

There was a few seconds before the words were spoken, +We have received their packages and all are following the plan.+

TalOS took in a breath as he began, +Activate the alerts to alert the crew! Hold everything down that you hold dear! Upon this moment we traverse from the realm of our Lord and to the Realm of Monsters!+

Upon those commands the entire room went red with alerts. The entire bridge staff bolted themselves into place as the Ritual of Entrance was given. Just like it had so many times before

+Bring the Energy Generation to Max and disengage the safeties. Direct all power to the blessed Warp Drive, for we set off into Damnation!+ TalOS declared in a commanding voice that rang through the entire space ship, +Awaken her with all this might, awaken the Divine Sunderer! Pray to the Machine God for our souls as she awakens!+

The entire ship began to vibrate before the devilish feeling of the warp barely brushed TalOS’s mind, +Secure the Iron Curtains and wait, for we are now in the realm of thoughts and monsters.+

Upon those words the curtains fell and the Warp Drive screamed. A hole in reality was torn that allowed the Mechanicum to enter the Warp. It was only thanks to the presence of the Blackstone that TalOS did not feel the full might of the realm and instead smiled at the result.

The bridge was silent after they entered the Warp. While many were machine they realized the true terror of what they had just avoided and were about the face. Some might even have considered throwing themselves in the Warp if not for their reasoning matrices applying.

TalOS wondered if he now held the ire of every Tech Priest in the entire fleet for making that decision. None of them could do anything about it though as TalOS had invoked Protocol 1. Only the Fabricator General could deny him this ability and the man was not here at the moment. Not even those who represent the Arch Magi at home were powerful enough to deny the Warlord his right to complete dominion.

+We should probably expect some resistance from the Xenos when we exit the jump, as well as missing ships.+ TalOS said outright as he thought about the situation, +The Xenos know where we are going and will likely try their damndest to prevent our arrival to the Greenskin fleet. Thus make sure the weapons are prepared to fire the moment we exit the Warp.+

+Understood, Arch Dominus.+ Answered an Adept. While it was monotoned, TalOS felt her entire panic and malous in those words.

TalOS will present his solution but at this point he wondered if his fellows will even accept the new information. There were plenty of other things he needed to place his attention to, but the simple Moral of his commanding structure was surely on the highest priority.

TalOS shook his head in thought, maybe instead he should place his mind towards making sure as many people as possible survive.

>Try and placate any accusations of insanity.
>Focus on maximizing the potential of Warp Travel
>Make sure the guns are at their best, so that they can break through any fleet before them.

>>5211706
>Make sure the guns are at their best, so that they can break through any fleet before them.

>>5211706
>Make sure the guns are at their best, so that they can break through any fleet before them.

>>5211706
>Focus on maximizing the potential of Warp Travel
Not our strong suit, but given the scenario the need is great. We will likely more appeal to the Warp Generatoria, than fiddle around with psychic phenomena. Though their craft is dark, machine spirits they are still

>>5211706
>Focus on maximizing the potential of Warp Travel
we don't have to deal with their bitching if it works and if it doesn't we will be dead.

>>5211706
>Make sure the guns are at their best, so that they can break through any fleet before them.

>>5211706
>Focus on maximizing the potential of Warp Travel
The guns should be fine, and we can assuage what our crew thinks after we try and not die
We need to be fast to make sure we don't get caught on a bad jump, or in the event that the Orks see two groups of enemies and wants to fight both of us. We would basically be caught in a pincer of our own design then.

>>5211706
>Focus on maximizing the potential of Warp Travel

>>5211706
>Focus on maximizing the potential of Warp Travel
The eventual trial will likely be done by the fabricator general himself, we should be able to convince him that what we are doing is fine, for now let's focus on staying alive.

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Anyone up for a little personality quirk/trait for Talos? Perhaps we could consider what type of musical instrument he enjoys. Odd timing I know, but hey not like we're stuck traversing the warp.

>Other Fluff/Side Item
As Talos diligently spends and calculates every millisecond towards increasing the fleets speed and cohesion through the warp, coaxing out every extra ounce of effort from the terrible fury of the machine spirits of the Warp Drives while also propping up the stalwart and stoic machine spirits of the Gellar fields in their endless battle to keep the realm of monsters away, now and again even Talos must find some reprieve

Upon the Onus Probandi's Chapel Cathedrum, past the pews and altar of devotion, in the brief moments of rest and reprieve he can spare, he takes to to learning a musical instrument. A mortal man might take a lifetime to become a master, an acillian years, but to Talos it was a matter of sparing the occasional sessions to practice his fingers and mechadendric tendrils what he could download via noosphere on musical theory. Music, as all things, was a gift and expression of the Machine God. Music and song were applications of the blessed arithmetic of harmonics and frequencies, to create from a myriad of disorderous tunes a thing of order.

And all the music instruments of mankind, this was his favorite. The myriad of keys, buttons, pedals and dials, the intricate workings of machinery to produce sound from the varying frequencies of gaseous vibration, the Organ had a machine spirit of its own, meek and humble when compared to that of a war engine or a ship, but when one played its spirit sung with a cry of enthusiasm as loud as any other.

Before he begins, he considers efforts and those of the ship. The vessel was worthy of praise, for time and again it had saved his life, that of Uzi, and his sons and his crew. Using the sacred mathematical composures of the ancients, he composes music, one that encapsules and praises the brave plight of the ship's machine spirit, as it flies its way through the hellish realm of the warp. How it applies the sacred science to propel it with haste through the blasphemy of unreality, seeking the paths of least resistance and navigating the roiling currents. Not so different from the legends and tales of such ships of Terra's oceans. Perhaps, he wondered, the spirits of the Onus Probandi or the Warp Drive might hear his song, as it bravely navigates through the warp with haste. No psyker nor sorcerer was he, to conjure forth spells to guide through the warp as the aliens did, but he understood that even Machine Spirits could be made to hear the music of praise. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBAsLLuaL5c

>>5211813
The synth is the only choice, since it's a techy piano. Well, not really, but it's close enough.
Also if you add some tubular bells and horns, you can make a bootleg version of the mechanicus soundtrack, and all of them are bangers.

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>>5211853
100% agreed.

And he'd be a fan of the Moog. The oldest and thus most sacred of all the synthesizers.
https://youtu.be/5JhMMAJGQJU?t=35

>>5211853
>>5211879
I can totally see Talos being into synth music
>+1

>>5211706
>>Focus on maximizing the potential of Warp Travel
if we can cut the jump numbers from 5 to 4 that is a huge improvement

>>5211706
>Focus on maximizing the potential of Warp Travel
Godspeed

>>5211706
>Focus on maximizing the potential of Warp Travel

Wait aren't we stuck with the current short range warp travel speed because we got no navigators and our warp drives aren't the old STC shit whose range doesn't suck?

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>>5212326
Yeah
I gather we are going to try to either convince the Warp Engines to be a bit faster, and/or try to make the emergency jump navigational systems a bit smarter, or something like that.

>>5211706
>Focus on maximizing the potential of Warp Travel
>>5211853
>>5211879
I support Daft Punk Primarch

>>5211706
>Maximize warp

>>5211813
Is this just an excuse to have the Mechanicus Game Music be canon?

>>5212403
I don't know about his post, but mine definatly was.
Also a joke about Daft Punk being robots or something.

>>5212403
That's definitely a part of it.
I just think that every Primarch has some personal quirks. Leeman Russ likes to feast and bellow a song, Perturabo designs architecture, Guilliman supported the fine arts on his planet, and Sanguineous wanted his sons to learn them too. Talos? Well, what instrument is better for the crazy tech primarch than a massive pipe/synth organ.
Also because maybe one day I'd like for us to have an organ style missile launcher on one of our vehicles, so that we can sing praises to the Machine God. And because if we're going to challenge Lorgar to a battle of religions we better have some good music to back us up.

And most of all, we know from Devotional Bells on Shrine Titans and the Sororitas that holy music actually works to repulse the wicked (and of course, conversely, Fulgrim will show that wicked music can also empower the minions of Slaanesh). It would be very cool to have tunes that drive away the daemons, while simultaneously inspiring our legion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asr6_eNCuoU

>>5212403
That's a good enough reason for me. Organ+synth music is pretty fitting for a mad scientist like Talos desu

>>5211706
>Focus on maximizing the potential of Warp Travel

Focus on guns
>>5211713
>>5211728
>>5211784

The Warp
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Keep his people safe.

It was that thought of trying his damndest to make sure that as many of his people survive that kept TalOS upon the Command Throne. Warp Travel could take anything from days to a week of travel and during this time TalOS would have taken for himself was instead placed into the operations of the ship.

Knowing his goal it was obvious that TalOS needed to devote himself to their journey through the Warp. It is commonly known, much to TalOS’s enforcement, that the Warp is a dangerous place where anything and anyone can be lost to its tides. So TalOS focused on making sure that did not happen.

There were small things that the Primarch devoted himself doing. The first and most primary was making sure that the Gellar Field did not flicker. This was prevented with a careful adjustment to the rhythm of machinery and keeping a live monitoring of it.

There were times where they would hit something akin to a barrier or blockage in the Warp and it caused the Gellar Field to shutter. It was learning what caused these that TalOS was able to minimize the cost of life they could have caused.

The next was the propulsion system and navigation. When it came down to it the trip through the Warp was a pre-chartered affair where you would need to predict proper routes and rely on the Machine Spirits to navigate away from what is not safe.

There was a way to imporve this, TalOS realized, with the liberal use of the Psi-Scanners. With the Gellar Field held at a certain frequency he was able to push these devices towards scanning the ‘local area’ of the Warp. TalOS found the thought of using words such a ‘Local Area’ was immensely subjective as the Warp would keep changing and forming against his reasoning.

The Warp was alive and actively worked against him. TalOS knew this well and was not a fool about it.

So instead of working with it TalOS decided to fight against it. Whenever he neared a large force of Psi-Energy TalOS would cause the Gellar Field to flare against it and destroy the presence of the obstacle. This surely caused something of trouble in the Overworld but TalOS did not care for it.

With every burst TalOS noticed something. He noticed something that no Magos or Machine Spirit would have noticed through the scanners.

A constant in the chaos.

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TalOS only noticed it when he started to fight the Warp. An battle of logic against the malous reality caused the constant background radiation of something poke out.

It did not flicker and it did not shutter. It waned like the rest of the warp but instead of collapsing back onto the ship it always grew back at a consistent rate.

That did not make sense.

TalOS was in the Warp, a realm where nonsense and irregularity was commonplace. It should be obvious that the mysterious constant radiation that could be recognized as a source of order demonstrated that in the realm of insanity, it was logic that became the outlier.

What exactly was it? Many of TalOS’s order would have claimed it to be the purview of the Machine God but TalOS would deny it. After all the Machine God was a material being not one that dabbled in the realm of the mystical. It was someone or something else.

As TalOS wondered this his systems gave him an alert and the Primarch left the purview of the Scanner Systems to his bridge. Everyone continued their work to make sure the ship did not suffer any problems in transit and for that TalOS was thankful for.

The rituals began and ended a few minutes after that. They breached into reality with a brutality that caused the entirety of existence to hurt. They were there though, and that mean they have survived the first transit.

+Status.+ TalOS declared as he looked over the region himself.

+There is nothing but void here.+ Answered a Magos, +Friendly ships arriving.+

One after another the ships of the Mechanicum arrived in system. TalOS gazed upon the ships that arrived into the system and did not like what he saw. Yes indeed there were a variety of ships that arrived into the system a vast majority of them seemed to be damaged in some way.

The bridge was silent for a few moments until the logistics Magos spoke, +Arch Dominus, we have lost two of our ships in transit due to emergency tranmission.+

TalOS shook his head at those words but he accepted it. After all, if they did not fleet when they did it would have been far more than if they challenged the enemy.

+Move us to the nearest jump point. Hopefully we have forced the enemy to take caution and are thus slower in transition.+

Upon that command the ships began to move.

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They moved through the system with all the speed and haste they could muster. Of course taking their time meant that there was a likelyhood that the enemy would be right upon them but TalOS did not worry about that. They already knew where he was going.

+Arch Dominus.+ Announced the Scanners Magos with a small bit of alarm, +We are seeing signals coming from the other side of the jump sight!+

TalOS felt a moment of confusion wash over him as he looked towards the display. Far across space it appeared. It would have been seen as tiny to the human eye but to TalOS using the sensory equipment of the Onus Probandi it was far more.

It looked like a giant scrap heap.

And after that one arrived, several other sensors went off.

+Arch Dominus, a fleet is incoming around that ship.+

+Orks? Why are they all the way over here!?+ TalOS sounded his confusion, +They should be just battering the Mitu’s worlds! Something we have not predicted has occurred.+

There was a silence upon the bridge as TalOS felt a ping of them arriving in position. If they jumped now there would be little problem but confusion was still racking his mind. He took a moment to glance into their coordinates and tried to determine where they were relative to the universe.

A moment’s confusion his his mind, +They are traveling in the direction of Lucius.+

The crew was silent for a moment as TalOS gave the declaration of intent for the Xenos. Judging by the maps they were making a beeline for the location if you were to draw a line from this location to the Ork Controlled space and then extend it.

None dared to speak up about it as the knowledge entered their minds. But to TalOS it made no sense why they were making their way there! Did Orks have that kind of logic? Well, they were obviously making some sort of odd approach towards the planet which did not fit any previous occurrences that the Xenos displayed beforehand.

It did mean, however, that their fleet was now arriving in the system.

>Try and lure both Xenos into one another to finish the scheme.
>Attack the Orks and attempt to eat a few of them to realize what the fuck is going on.
>Head for Lucius, for the WAAAGH is on its way.

>>5213105
>Try and lure both Xenos into one another to finish the scheme.
it will weaken both and give us more time to head back to Lucius and for them to prepare.
also, our Null stone fortress is going to fuck the works up.

>>5213105
>Try and lure both Xenos into one another to finish the scheme.
We are going to be under scrutinity because of the plan anyway, so might as well complete it.
Just hope that they aren't freebooters hired by the Mitu, or heard that Lucius was a better fight.

>>5213125
my bet is the Eldar pointed them our way.

>>5213143
Makes sensez they are always fucking about. They know the blackstone fortresses as talisman of Vaul, maybe the null thing we done to it messed with their predictions or something.
As for why they haven't attacked us directly when they got the chance, it might have been another craftworld, or more convoluted eldar bullshit.

>>5213105
>>>Try and lure both Xenos into one another to finish the scheme.
fuckf uck fuck fuck fuck

I wonder about the damn craftworld of the eldar. They were deep in mitu territory. Do the mitu just leave them alone and pretend they are not *there* when those world-ships pass through their systems? Was it random chance that an Eldar ship was there at that time...

>>5213105
>Try and lure both Xenos into one another to finish the scheme.

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>Try and lure both Xenos into one another to finish the scheme.
Part of me wishes we could do something cunning. . .something brutally cunning. Like we might not have a piece of them to find out but maybe we do have some frozen orksicles we can eat and devise their crude language from.

Then its a matter of projection of a form via hologram and voice onto their Vox via our brilliant tech mind, and do something like:
>"OI YA GITZ. TELL DA UVA' BOYZ DAT DA PLAN IS WORKIN'.

>WOT? YOU AIN'T KNOW DA PLAN? DEN LISTEN UP. DA BOSS' CHOSE US CAUSE WE IZ' DA SNEAKIEST, DA MOST BRUTALLY CUNNIN' BOYZ SINCE MORK PUNCHED GORK. YOU'Z WANT TO KNOW HOW? JUST 'AVE YER WYRD' UNZ TRY AN LOOK AT US THRU DA SHIP. NOT EVEN DEYZ CAN TELL IF WE'Z ORKS ER' NOT." (as we hold the blackstone close)

>"TELL ALL DA UVA' BOYZ WE'Z FOUND DA BIGGEST OF DA SQUISHY'S FLEET WE'Z CAN AND BROUGHT EM DIS WAY SO'Z WE'Z CAN KRUMP EM GOOD AND DEN GO LOOT DEYZ PLANETS CAUSE DEYZ BEEN KRUMPED. DA FOIGHT IS ON IT'Z WAY, GET DA LADS 'ERE!"

>>5213291
Our crew already think we are insane and that the xeno starch is a corrupting influence, I don't want to add more fuel to that fire.

>>5213178
what do you think the odds are that after we find out the Eldar will be all "you needed those works for a distraction, No need to thank us Mon-keigh" in the snobbiest way possible.

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>>5213340
Well hey, if it works it works.

Part of me thinks we actually starting to become like Cawl after all. We know its gonna work, they just gotta trust us.

>>5213105
>Try and lure both Xenos into one another to finish the scheme.

>>5213105
>Try and lure both Xenos into one another to finish the scheme.

>>5213105
>Lure them into one another.

>>5213291
...You know that is something that orks would totally fall for. I'll back this because I find it hilarious. The orks will become convinced that there is some kind of sneaky git who is so bruttally kunnin he tricked a bunch of buckit headz that he wuz one of them all along and that nobody not even orkz knowz who he iz.

These are orks all we have to do is tell them that we are best kommando is so goddamn sneaky that everyone thinks it so we are and that we will lead them to the best fights of all(against Chaos) and we won't even be lying technically. Shit if they ever get suspicious just build a giant mech suit and paint it green and purple.

>>5213291
>support

Do it

>>5213291
>+1 Support
If they can't tell if we are Orks, then the enemy cannot tell if we are Orks

>>5213291
TalOS only needs a minute of conversation to understand the language of the Orks.

>>5213650
Considering it Is the ork language, 1 minute is overstating it by a lot.

>>5213105
>>Try and lure both Xenos into one another to finish the scheme.
If I could I vote against the ork communication, we are risking enough as it is.

>>5213105
>Try and lure both Xenos into one another to finish the scheme.
>>5213291
>support
It is risky, but if Talos would be smart enough not to do it if it wouldn't work. I'll back it

Orcs are fungus do they even have brains to eat?

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>>5213713
It works on flesh, it doesn't have to be brain although brain is probably better.

A space wolf has been described as thinking "the ponderous thoughts of trees" when he ate a piece of bark with the blood of a Tyranid monster on it. And of course he also determined the thoughts of the tyranid too.

Also yeah Orks do have brains. Ghazghuklls got pulped but miraculously healed, and also the feared "Squig Brain Transplant" is a thing among them.

>>5213713
The fact is that you only need flesh to gain memories, not brains. Brains just give you the best Gig per Pound.

>>5213895
Really that gland is truly a work of genius. From The Corax novel:
>‘Oh?’ said Guilliman. He raised the ewer in Corax’s direction, tipping back the lid with a thumb catch. The Ravenlord’s sensitive olfactory sense registered the fermented juices of grapes wafting from its throat. Wrapped up in the smell were volumes of information: the alcohol content, the colour, the acidity and the other, less-tangible factors that contributed to them – how long ago the berry had diverged from its ancestor, the soil it had been cultivated in, fragments of gene-code from the people who had made it, the composition of the air it had breathed, the trace minerals in the water that it drank
A Primarchs sense of taste is even more impressive than the average space marines.

>>5213713
They do have brains and a lot of other human like organs

>>5213224
Craftworlds are basically mobile worlds, the Mitu probably think twice before devoting the kind of resources to that sort of foe.

>>5213291
>+1
Imagine if we manage to convince them to go after the unprotected Mitu worlds next rather than Lucius!

>>5213105
>Try and lure both Xenos into one another to finish the scheme.

>>5213345
This makes a disturbing amount of sense.

>>5213345
Mysteriously appearing, leaving without saying anything, sending a war to your front step and then saying that it was for your own good is definatly peak Eldar behaviour.

>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST NULL THE WHOLE MONUMENT TO OUR GODS THAT WE TOTALLY BUILT 20.000 YEARS AGOOOOO
>Yes

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>>5214016
Imagine if it was what would have been the Will of Eternity that we nulled, so it doesn't fall into Abaddons hands.

He'd have to use some other Blackstone fortress and all the beautiful butterflies through time that comes from it.

Finish the Scheme, also fuck Eldar apparently
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>>5213674

A good amount of you want to talk to the Orks. That shall happen unless another chunk of you suddenly respond to this.

>>5214165
I'm still not sold on it, but I'm just one guy, so all I can do is hope that it works

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The bridge was stunned silent at the simple fact that they had wandered into a makeshift pincer maneuver. Add in the fact that these Orks were charging right towards Lucius and it was almost all his fears come true.

It was in a moment of complete fear that TalOS realized something, +Coms, can we listen to the Orks?+

+Processing Request.+ The Magos called out as a series of clicks and simmers went through the air, +They are employing human communication technology and it is unsecured.+

+Patch me into it.+ TalOS declared much to the confusion of the Tech Priests around him.

TalOS was suddenly blasted with a series of hoofs and hollars that he could not make sense of. It was as crude as listening to a thousands of Servitors whose Machine Spirits decided to commit suicide in order to torture their poor souls. There was a rhythm and rhyme to it though. When there was sense there was understanding. Upon identifying the words and reason the Primarch was able to learn.

“AAAAGHHH! Will you gits shut da mork up!” Yelled one of the noticeably louder Orks on the coms, “Nav’Git! How close are we to da buzzin!”

“We ‘ave twelve million zogs from dit.” Answered a quieter voice.

“Ya told me we were goin’ to be three million zogs away!”

“Dats what da spindily thingy told me.”

After those words TalOS heard a distinct shot from a gun ring through the coms network.

“Who gonna be next navi-git!”

“Git you!”

“Who said dat!?”

“Killa Kik!”

“Den he’s our next Navi-Git! Get ‘is ass in the navi-git seat before I blow ‘is brains out for be’in late!”

TalOS felt himself grow a small headache at the words that were spoken. He had just peered into what was honest insanity and somehow make something out of it.

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As nearly a dozen more Ork ships came into the system TalOS heard a call out, “‘Ey dere! Who da mork are you!?”

TalOS only needed a second to realize who he was referring too, “I’m da sneaky-git! I got da news!” Spoke the Primarch wanting to kill himself for saying that.

“Sneaky-Git? You don’t look Orky…”

“Best way to sneaky sneak.” TalOS declared as he felt the entire staff of his wonder what TalOS was saying, “Boss, I found out where da buzzin been comin’ from!”

“You ‘ave?!” The Ork called out as if he was trying his damndest to jump through the coms and to TalOS, “Where is it!?”

“Big-” TalOS thought to himself for a millisecond as he tried to come up with the right word, “Big laz gits fleet comin’ in! I lured dem here so we can all krump them!”

“Laz Git… Ah da Slimies!” The Ork called out as he shouted out in sheer cheer, “You just becom’ da best Blood Axe I ‘erever had!”

“Thanks Boss!” TalOS called out, “Come ‘ere and we can jump them together! I’ll let you and da WAAAGH have fist dibs.”

“Haha! You just beggin to be my right thumb! Come ‘in everyone we got a bunch of Slimies to Krump!”

As TalOS left the call he noticed nearly a hundred ships entering the system. TalOS noticed that all his remaining Mechanicus Ships, roughly sixty, had rendezvoused with TalOS. The Bridge was silent, both in awe and confusion as TalOS allowed himself a moment of rest.

+Divert our course away from the Ork’s new path and prepare for Warp Jump. They will not be fooled for much longer.+ TalOS declared to the crew as he felt the Onus Probandi move once again.

As they diverted from the path of the Orks numerous ships began to make themselves known at the other side of the system. A single scan was enough to tell TalOS that the Mitu Collective Ships were arriving and in a complete fleet as well.

One after another ths ships arrived and gavea psychic scan of the area. TalOS knew for sure that the Xenos were not expecting the Orks as suddenly their arrival formation began to move and break.

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The first ones to make the attack were, of course, the Orks. With the early warning given to them the greenskins were able to cross what would have originally been no man’s land thanks to the powerful guns of the Mitu Collective. Numerous small arms fire was sent flying through space and impacting the Cruiser that so helplessly was the first one to arrive.

TalOS was first to witness the inaccuracy of the Orks. But when it came down to it if they kep shooting so many shots the Orks were eventually going to hit something. That something was the before mentioned Cruiser that ended up exploding thanks to what was numerous small arms fire.

That Cruiser was only the start of the fleet’s arrival. One after another the Mitu Collective were sent from the warp wailing into space where the Orks were. The Greenskins now in range were actively trying their damndest to ram the nearest Mitu ships with brutal effect. Said brutal effect led to the destruction of three other Cruisers.

This fight was not one sided for the Orks though. Thanks to being within the jump point numerous Ork Ships were torn into and destroyed with the opening of Warp Holes. These rips in reality ironically gave the Mitu some room when the majority of their ships arrived in system to welcome the incoming horde or Orks.

Upon seeing that TalOS had enough.

+Activate the alerts to alert the crew! Hold everything down that you hold dear! Upon this moment we traverse from the realm of our Lord and to the Realm of Monsters!+

Upon those commands the entire room went red with alerts. The entire bridge staff bolted themselves into place as the Ritual of Entrance was given. Just like it had so many times before.

+Bring the Energy Generation to Max and disengage the safeties. Direct all power to the blessed Warp Drive, for we set off into Damnation!+ TalOS declared in a commanding voice that rang through the entire space ship, +Awaken her with all this might, awaken the Divine Sunderer! Pray to the Machine God for our souls as she awakens!+

The entire ship began to vibrate before the devilish feeling of the warp barely brushed TalOS’s mind, +Secure the Iron Curtains and wait, for we are now in the realm of thoughts and monsters.+

And with that Ritual, the Mechanicus Fleet fled into the Warp on course towards Lucius.

>Full Speed to Lucius
>Organize an Early Alert Fleet
>Try and make some Combat Ready Null-Tech.

>>5214222
>>Try and make some Combat Ready Null-Tech.

>>5214222
>Try and make some Combat Ready Null-Tech.

>>5214222
>Try and make some Combat Ready Null-Tech
I suggest we apply our mind to developing Null-Tech specific to throwing off chase from psykers and premonition of our movements. Anti-Future reading tech.

>>5214239
Not happening. You guys rejected that option... about four posts ago.

Also QM I hope you grace us with a few scenes of the Mitu Admirals bridge next update if possible. I can only imagine how its going for them right now.

>>5214242
Since I won't its easy enough to describe it like so.

"FUCKING ORKS!"

>>5214241
Oh right, the preserving the sight thing until we are sure if we want to dispose of it.

I hope the option isn't locked out permanently.

>>5214245
It was a different option. The one where you guys voted to stay as one doom fleet and run towards the Orks.

Lmao we'll have to tell our brother Alpharius about this one one day. That was funny.
>>5214222
>Organize an Early Alert Fleet

>>5214222
>Organize an Early Alert Fleet

>>5214222
>>Full Speed to Lucius
WE MUST!!!! One ork space-fleet is NOTHING!!! who knows how many more are going to Lucius with the promise of a good fight

>>5214222
>Full Speed to Lucius
The faster we get there, the more time we have to prepare for either Orks or Mitu.

>>5214241
Personally I think that option was rejected because it meant either some of our sons be sent as the bait, or ourselves, for it to work. Which wasn't very palatable. It is an idea worth testing on another time when the opportunity arises.
>>5214222
>Full Speed to Lucius

>>5214380
I think he meant in relation to fleet wide, which again you guys voted on already.

>>5214222
>Full Speed to Lucius

>>5214222
>Full Speed to Lucius
>>5214220
This was glorious QM.
btw TalOS is an INT and CHA build isnt he?

>>5214222
>Combat ready null
tech fucking orks

>>5214380
That's true. The "letting the rest lead the enemy on a wild goose chase." wasn't very appealing especially if the implication we were gonna be the bait.

But some day we should investigate null shielding the fleet without having to do that part and when the consequences of it not working don't mean a huge mitu fleet following us to Lucius.

>>5214678
Is there anything funny for April first?

>>5214678
Nvm, answered my own question.

>>5215026
Just as the Mitu General

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>>5214236
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>>5214239
>>5214625

Full Speed to Lucius
>>5214380
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>>5214600

Early Alert Fleet
>>5214255
>>5214273

You know, I would like to do an April Fools thing but I want to keep this story going. So have a clown. If someone gets me a better clown, uh, idk I'll think of something

>>5215352
If I was to do something I would do some Primarch Smut because it'd be hilarious.

>>5215354
The only thing more hilarious would be to give it plausibility to be canon. Which by this point is likely very possible

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There was no reason to delay or slow down.

With the Orks and the Mitu being close on the doorstep of Lucius TalOS knew this fact was certain. If they did not arrive at Lucius the incoming fleet of ships was going to annihilate the planet. With them there it would at least give Lucius a chance to defend against them.

It would require a series of Warp Jumps to cross the empty void between the Mitu Collective and Lucius. Using his growing knowledge of Warp Travel he focused his efforts into maximizing the possible potential of their unguided ships through the terrors of the gods.

It was hard. TalOS essentially blocked off any other form of communication in focus of trying to make sure they would arrive at the planet in one piece. None bothered to interrupt him in this endeavor as he navigated. A lesser general might have been worried about what his men would have come up with but TalOS trusted them.

They were Priests of the Machine God after all.

There was a moment as he stayed like this that he had to curse himself. He knew it was he himself who caused the xenos to get so close to Lucius. It was him who did not guard against them. Through his crusade he had allowed his home world to be both known and exposed to the ravages of space.

As he thought this the Primarch registered their position. They had arrived.

He exited the comotose of the machine and looked out into a barely changed bridge. Everyone there knew that the time had come and witnessed.

+Bring the Energy Generation to Max and disengage the safeties. Direct all power to the blessed Warp Drive, for it is our salvation.+ TalOS declared in a commanding voice that rang through the entire space ship, +Awaken her with all this might, awaken the Divine Sunderer! Pray to the Machine God for souls as she awakens.+

The words did not carry the flamboyance and pride that TalOS gave many times before. Many of the bridge started their work but the same lethargy of wear and tear was worked upon them. After a constant battle among the stars TalOS was sure many of them were frightened at whatever they might find. Though they were tired the vibrations of the ship began to carry itself through the ship before stopping.

+Raise the iron curtains and let us see our destination.+ TalOS said as his eyes began to widen, +Bask in the Glory that is the Machine God for we have ARRIVED!+

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The bridge was silent after that declaration.

None could speak up as they looked upon Lucius.

Even the Primarch felt his heart skip and fall silent as he looked upon the planet.

Previously there was a series of barren landscapes that would have covered the majority landscape. While their crest laid upon its surface it was something that only those close to the planet would be able to easily tell. Its Atmosphere would have few ships covering it as while it had power to reforge almost anything, Lucius simply did not have the metals to maximize on it.

Now, looking upon Luicus, TalOS saw factories for as far as the eye could see. No longer did the deserts of their planet hold sway as the massive factories that could be seen from space. Around its atmosphere were hundreds of ships that almost blotted out the sky in their number which were only accented by the massive Blackstone Fortress that guarded them all.

Lastly, TalOS looked upon the ‘L’ of Lucius. It was by far larger than anything TalOS even expected and it cemented the existence that this was in fact Lucius, the heart of the Lucius Federation.

TalOS shook the wonder from him as he forced himself to reassert himself. He keyed in a series of communications and tethered himself into the network that belonged to a certain Magos, +Arch Magos K00LT, do you have room within your docks for the Expedition Fleet?+

The coms were silent for half a minute as TalOS waited for the answer. Instead the voice of another graced his ears, +We do, Arch Dominus. Welcome back.+

+Thank you, Fabricator General.+ TalOS answered as he allowed himself a moment to hold himself, +We must meet immediately, if those of the High Council are able I wish to speak with them too.+

+I shall call them.+ The oldest man of Lucius answered, +I shall meet you upon the Blackstone Fortress.+

+Thank you, Fabricator General.+ TalOS answered before giving several instructions to the crew.

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The Backstone Fortress had changed a lot from the last time TalOS was here. Instead of a dirt covered landscape it now looked like a proper fortress. Once plain black walls were now covered with several pieces of metal that acted as both supports and arcs for the transformation effort.

The doors that have once been of the blackest stone were now modified. They had several components replaced with their Mechanicum counterparts. With his trained eye TalOS could easily tell that instead of simply building upon the structure many pieces of the fortress were removed and mounted again with the improved mechanics.

What was likely the most telling of it all was the atmosphere. Instead of using what was surely a psychic effect that mystically held in the air instead it was replaced with several generators and a techno-arcane gravitational technique that forced the air to stay where it was. It was genius in its creation, that much TalOS had to admit.

Noting all this the Onus Probandi docked within the ship and thus allowed all who were upon it to leave. TalOS himself was already on the move as he was given a direction on where exactly he was supposed to end up.

The room he was directed to was the Bridge which stood at the center of the ship. It was now a massive room where dozens of cogitators and servitors were hard at work making sure that all the systems of the Blackstone Fortress were coming to forwishen.

Standing next to the Command Throne was a small crouched figure that TalOS recognized immediately. He walked up and gave a bow to the man who commanded more respect then him.

+Protocol 11544.+ The Fabricator General annoucned as he looked up to TalOS, +You have done well, as you have returned with almost your entire fleet intact.+

+It is a blessing from the Machine God that I have arrived, Fabricator General.+ TalOS answered as he took the moment to rest, +Lucius has come so far from the last time I was here.+

+With the resources of the Hive Worlds and Dutonis that you have found, Lucius gained enough resources to fulfill my dream. Within ten years we will rival Mar’s own grandeur.+

+Mars…+

+The Holiest Planet, indeed. I had hoped to create a planet that would rival her and thanks to you it seems to be coming true.+

+Then I thank you for the chance, Fabricator General.+

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+I am informed of the situation from your data logs.+ The Fabricator General told TalOS, +I understand that Lucius is under threat?+

+We face the Orks and the Mitu Collective.+ TalOS declared without a hint of surprise, +The Orks are approaching Lucius and I am sure the Mitu are aware of the Plastoid’s death with our crossing of the gap.+

The Fabricator General nodded as he gained more understanding, +It is dire then. With our increased resources we are estimating that Crux Psycana shall be reached within a month. I see your estimates place the coming threat to start arriving in roughly a week as well?+

TalOS nodded as he heard the assessment, +That is correct. It will likely be small fleets of Orks, though I am sure the Orks will send a thousand ships upon the final day if they are able.+

+Then you have a job ahead of you, Arch Dominus.+ Answered the Fabricator General.

>Focus on fortifying the heck out of Lucius itself
>Begin running hit and run attacks on the incoming greenskins
>Work on making sure the fleet is at its strongest, so that the Blackstone Fortress Survives.

>>5215467
>Work on making sure the fleet is at its strongest, so that the Blackstone Fortress Survives.
It's our trump card, if it goes down, we lose.

>>5215467
>>Work on making sure the fleet is at its strongest, so that the Blackstone Fortress Survives.
Critical stage in our development as a Power.

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>>5215467
>Work on making sure the fleet is at its strongest, so that the Blackstone Fortress Survives.
It is our most important asset.
I dream of Lucius' Legion being renowned for the strength of its navy.

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>>5215463
If we take it at face value, rivaling mars or even coming close is well, astonishing. Particularly since it's being done within a single humans lifestyle (indeed a single war campaign) and even without the direct hand of the Primarch. Sure we've got lots of planets feeding it now, but Mars has been built up for 30,000 years.

Did you say Lucius might legit even surpass mars itself? That's . . . mind boggling amazing, even for the Fabricator General. The only plausible explanation I can say is maybe the Machine God truly approves our efforts

I think the moment we even HINT this on Mars there will be a roar crying out for Heresy for the idea that any other forge world could become more productive, and another roar of voices demanding proof. I scarce imagine what will happen when they have proof that there's a planet out there that is as productive as holy Mars.

Maybe the only thing Lucius is missing now is a giant orbital shipyard ring. And turning the moon into a giant orbital defense fortress/gun platform like Phobos.

>>5215467
>Work on making sure the fleet is at its strongest, so that the Blackstone Fortress Survives
>>5215503
It is impressive and almost hard to believe. Maybe Mezoa helped. Its founder was the friend of the fabricator general. We are also going to have major bragging rights with all our brothers
>Guilliman: I turned conquered my planet ans turned it into a functional, well organized, utopian society and solar empire
>Perturabo: I dream of making the planet I conquered into a well organized, utopian society...
>Angron: I WANTED TO CONQUER MY PLANET
>Talos: I turned my planet into a 2nd Mars and conquered half a sector

>>5215522
*Guilliman: I conquered my planet and turned*

>>5215522
>Half a sector
If we can get this Mitu and Orx war done before discovery, than we have the entire Gothic sector on our hands.

>>5215503
I can believe it, Mars hasn't had much of the way of imported materials either, and it isn't the heart of the empire yet, so mini mars.. not yet Mars!

>>5215541
This presumes we're able to gather more resources to Lucius than the Emperor is to Mars at this stage. Which isn't impossible, I'll give it that. Emperor might have more directions for his stretched resources than fueling it all into Mars where as we are putting everything we can into Lucius

>>5215545
The Emperor's side projects, mutual distrust towards Mars, and focusing efforts towards military expansion rather than to empower and repair Mars is why its resurgence is stagnated. Guess the real question is, what's going to happen when we get there and start fixing it.

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>>5215562
Let's not also forget that Mars is seriously fucked up six ways from Sunday from the age of strife and all the literal data daemons and abominable intelligences rampaging in the lower levels.

When Talos lands on Mars, he will cry two tears of oil:
-One that he has landed upon such a sacred, holy planet of his God
-The other . . .at what an absolute dumpster fire it is beneath the surface. Holy shit man someone grab the fire suppressant that's not supposed to burn!

I can see Mars being a sort of trap where dad chastises us for spending time trying to fix it rather than campaign like Lorgar building up Monarchia. Except at least, fixing Mars benefits the campaign's logistics so we have an excuse.

>>5215577
If he wants to complain about Mars repair and knowledge retrieveal, than he is free to do it openly, for every tech priest to hear.
I'm pretty sure the Mechanicus will be really supportive of his crusade after that.

>>5215562
>>5215577
When it comes to it I think dungeon crawling mars every now and again, fortifying as we go would be better than spend a large amount of time doing a 3d ww1 trench war to try and 'fix' it.
Maybe we can send our legion for training, 1k troops every now and again on rotation to both be Tech marines and treasure hunters.

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>>5215352
I dunno man

>>5215467
>>Work on making sure the fleet is at its strongest, so that the Blackstone Fortress Survives.
Don't you think that orks are weaker in space? They can't club gits in space.

Of course, our fleet won't mean shit when the roks fall, because oh yes they will fall...

>>5215467
>Work on making sure the fleet is at its strongest, so that the Blackstone Fortress Survives.
by the way, what happened to protocol 1. did the FG just say fuck that shit or is the trial postponed until the threat is dealt with.

>>5215467
>Strengthen the Fleet to ensure the Blackstone lives

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>>5215467
>Work on making sure the fleet is at its strongest, so that the Blackstone Fortress Survives.
Losing the fortress would be a very heavy blow to moral so we must prevent that. And if the xenos cannot make landfall all the better.

>>5215352
>>5215354
The "m" stands for mechanicum of course

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>>5215753
>Don't you think that orks are weaker in space? They can't club gits in space.
Thing is, when Roks fall, a large portion of them disintegrate or explode during orbital reentry.

Thus in space, the number of orks is greater than on land typically.

I said it before but a good "warm up" practice for specializing our fleet to fight orks later on is to get good at disintegrating portions of asteroid belts. And those don't shoot back, so consider it easy mode.

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>>5215467
>Work on making sure the fleet is at its strongest, so that the Blackstone Fortress Survives.
>Write-In
I'm going to take a page from QM's suggestions and make write-ins appropriate to the current situation.

So we want to strengthen our fleet. Currently, the mainstay of our forces and the most easily reproducible ship is the Tartarus Escort Frigate. Their strength comes from their numbers, each one carrying a battleship worthy lance at the prow and strong laser defenses. The weakness is, of course, their small individual size, a good hit from a Mitu ship of equal or larger size could severely cripple or outright destroy one, at range particularly.

We should work on mitigating that, and we have the perfect example sitting on our Secutarii right now: their Kyropatris Field Generator
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Kyropatris_Field_Generator

Individually weak, the Krypopatris Field Generator gains its strength from unifying itself with others of its number, dissipating the force of the blow over various generators. Creating a stronger shield out of the many.

We should see if the same can be applied upon our Tartarus ships to create a sort of hexagrammic shield formation, to give them greater holding power when the enemies ranged fire is superior.

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>>5216144
>Write-In
I also suggest testing if it is possible to combine lance beam strikes using either algorithimic firing sequences and specific frequencies, or perhaps even construction of specific subset of Tartarus that houses a powerful refractor crystal that could be synthesized via Lucius forges.

OOC the Eldar have prism tanks in which several of them can fire into the crystal of one of them, combining their beams. IRL there are also Beam Combiners.

Failing the ability to produce something like that, we could also investigate on specific lance beam frequencies that are more likely to create the sort of interference and precise firing data patterns to create a combined lance beam, further augmenting the power of our Tartarus ships to tackle much larger foes like enemy flagships

Just some ideas on how to strengthen our fleet besides "Make as many ships and defense batteries as possible". Which isn't a bad strategy either.

>>5216144
>>5216151
>+1
Good ideas to try

>>5216144
>>5216151
>support
There's no better way to test new battle technology than a battle

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>>5216151
Screw that. Think outside the box.
Let's fucking shoot gamma rays and melt anything at their general direction on AU scales. Yes it might displace the lucius orbit a little, maybe plunge it to the sun who knows

>"Those damn cog boys shot a huge flash from their planet that erased half the fleet. They were no fun to fight and there was no ramming"
translate that to ork plase. I wonder if we can control the star-core to create an accretion disk and fire jets... no, that would consume mass and we don't want that

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>>5216482
jets, you know?

>>5216482
Nuclear accelerated projectiles and mines. Also gauss weaponry for whatever reason. For an artificial star we can weaponize the plasma plumes a star naturally radiates and eject it. In addition to MASSIVE plasma damage it will also have an EMP effect. Nuclear torpedoes are another fun one irradiates and EMPs upon hit.

A big one since we got an artificial star is Plasma weaponry out the ass and EMP. Practically limitless amount of it at that. Lasers at long range and switch to plasma when they get closer. Plasma bombs. Plasma mines. Aka plasma everywhere.

Plasma/gauss is also underrated when you accelerated it so fast and hard it partially melts and energizes so hard it becomes plasma it goes so fast from the excess of energy and speed. Having an artificial star suddenly makes something like that entirely viable.

Plus I think with TalOS genius he would understand that big ass batteries+matter accelerator=easy logistics for primitives that hit very hard that aren't too energy dependent or chemically complex. Also rad bombs and nuclear accelerated projectiles are vastly underrated and fucking terrifying.

>>5216504
why lasers tho, gamma rays are stronger and reach way farther!! Same electromagnetic particle but better

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>>5216504
>>5216482
>>5216475
I just think it may be easier on QM to write stuff by linking it to existing 40k tech.

So for example, EMP. In Warhammer terms that's called "Haywire" weapons. Cawl for example, specifically builds his body with shields and insulation specifically more powerful than that of Necrons so he can unleash a Haywire pulse bomb that can fry the circuits off them, till they repair anyway.

Titans have large scale haywire missiles.

However against the Organic based ships of the Mitu and the questionable technology of Ork Roks they may not be as effective. They might have some effect perhaps, like causing radio interference and frying crude Ork radio vox, but they just aren't the same kind of technology.

As for weaponizing Lucius by tapping into the core, I don't see why not if we can spare the resources. We could build numerous Plasma Obliterators that are fueled directly by the heart perhaps.

>>5216504
If you mean Necron Gauss we'd need to encounter necrons first, but there are canon examples of Mechanicus reverse engineering and even combining Necron-Gauss in strange ways, to more or less success.

if you mean regular magnetic accelerators, in this era they are rare but not unheard of. Asides Custodes Tanks, nothing stops us from developing the Macro-Accelerator cannons of the Astreus super heavy tank earlier.

Also we certainly can choose to favor Plasma-Batteries as opposed to standard Shell Cannons for short range rapid firepower. Though I still generally prefer lances. Ranged is King baby.

I think if you elaborate the weapon more and give some examples, I could try to find a 40k analogue

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I hate this peanut cunt
Well damn, I understand there is no analogue to weaponizing a damn star in the 40k. It does have plenty of destroying stars howerer

>>5216475
Gotta be honest, shooting someone with radiation is very Admech. Hell, their basic Radium Weapons do that already.

>>5216151
I feel a power creep coming if this was to happen. Also, it would not actually change the attack much as with Admech Precision the guns can easily hit the exact same spot on a void ship. As this is the case there is no need to focus beams into an even bigger beam.

We are focusing on void combat
>>5215474
>>5215480
>>5215495
>>5215753
>>5215924
>>5215962
>>5216144
>>5215522
>>5215978

>>5216482
>>5216593
Star guns, well, you guys can easily harvest power from Lucius's core into Planetary Batteries but you think I am going to allow you to blow up half the fleet coming into system? The answer is clearly no.

>>5215924
When the issue is over. The Trial will be when the war has either calmed down or is over.

>>5216593
There are actual dyson spheres in 40k. Necron World Engines are basically weaponized stars. Projects for later
>>5216610
Dont Skitarii use Gamma pistols too?

>>5216645
The Cybernetica Datasmith does, which is fucking weird. I'm also pretty sure Horus Heresy Skitarii have it too though.

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TalOS walked through the ship yard that stretched out of Lucius to see as everything was moving. Several Servitors and Servo-Skulls moved themselves to cart around several tons of ammunition. They arrived at a ship where a Knight was standing vigilently, lowering itself to pick up the munitions and place them on the correct rack to be transported to the Blackstone Fortress.

On another end of the place TalOS watched as one of his Tartarus Class ships was swarmed with Servo Skulls, Serfs, and Tech Priests in an attempt to fix up the numerous pieces of damaged armor. TalOS took the moment to identify that indeed a vast majority of the low augmented serfs were from the hive world of Helmnet.

And then, across the ways, TalOS witnessed several thousand tons of rocks and stone be unloaded and dumped out onto a massive train cart. These materials, if he understood it, were raw resources gathered from the nearby mining world that was secured several years ago.

Lastly he turned towards the newest installation of the Ship Yard. It was a massive plasma cannon that was built from an STC schematic that helped keep Mezoa safe for so many years against the very foes they were about to face.

Everything was working as TalOS planned. In three days they will start to receive a series of assaults from the Orks and after that this sort of peace will be lost to the invading xenos.

TalOS heard a series of clicks from his side as a voice made connection with him, +Arch Dominus TalOS, it has been a while.+

TalOS turned to see a slightly more augmented friend, +Dux Dominus D3X, it is a pleasure to see you again.+

+Affirmation given.+ The Tech Priest answered as he gave a nod, +Have you taken the moment to review what I have sent you?+

+I have.+ Answered the Primarch as he gave the fellow his full attention, +You have done well to turn a majority of our manpower into Skitarii. But not only that but so many of the Manufactoriums are not only new but also following the princibles of FAG…+

+Conjecture: Such advancement would not have been possible if we did not have the manpower and resources.+ Answered the Tech Priest.

+That is true.+ TalOS admitted as he turned to his fellow, +Now what has happened on Lucius while I was away?+

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TalOS felt a secure connection port itself in one of his many cogitators, +With prosperity and ability a great many have gained power. First off, Dux Dominus AL3X has advanced herself to be worthy of her title with five manufactoriums under her sway.+

+Did she now? Thats… troubling.+

+Agreement.+ D3X answered back with a small bit of relief, +We have not however had any incidents with Xenos or Warp Tech as none have been discovered. That might change with the recent shipment. Question, What has brought you to aquire such goods?+

+I have seen potential in the fact that these materials were able to manipulate the Warp.+ TalOS announced as he acknowledged the Tech Priest’s summirzation, +The Evil Gods only have a presence when there is a psychic presence. They do not have a presence in areas like the Blackstone Fortress and the null projects of the Crystals. It is our greatest weapon against them and their champions. There is the chance that if someone had psykers they can eventually reverse our work. Have they arrived on Lucius?+

The Tech Priest nodded as he gave TalOS a new matrix, +Calculated, Out of the five billion that we have migrated to Lucius we have confirmed five thousand six hundred and seventy five psykers among the humans.+

+And what of them?+

+We are currently keeping the majority of them sedated. Only those who are below Iota are allowed to still walk among us. I have them closely monitored.+

TalOS thought to himself for a moment until he raised a brow, +And the reason they are still alive?+

+Many, including Dux Dominus AL3X, have voiced their concerns of exterminating such a resource. Thus we have decided to hold off until the High Court can convene once again.+

+Have any of them disappeared?+

+Not to my knowledge. There is a 23% chance of that changing.+ The Dux Dominus answered.

>Wipe out the slot of Psykers
>Keep them all sedated.
>Awaken them, we will use them for our defence efforts.

>>5216672
>Keep them all sedated.
Having a source of human psykers mean we can test first hand the effectiveness of our null tech, tactics and how to combat them, without having to deal with xeno tech.
And if we or one of our alliea gets to be the head of the project, it means we can jeep a close eye on AL3X

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>There is the chance that if someone had psykers they can eventually reverse our work.
Gotta figure out some countermeasures to this. The solution will surely present itself when we learn Technomancy and can do stuff like Null Matrices and more machine based null empowerment to resist reversal

>>5216672
I'm going to guess that none of these are astropaths or navigators, or rather that none of the planets we have recovered use astropaths or navigators because that would have changed a lot so. . .

>Keep them all sedated.
"We do not yet have the adequate facilities or know-how to safely deploy them. They have done no wrong, nor have they yet earned their honors.

When we reunited with Mars there will surely be many such places they can be better trained, such as the Ordos Psykana, and the fabled Astropathic arts. This science is lost to us, and thus like a foul greenskin mekboy tinkering with a Fusion Reactor, we risk catastrophe through ignorance. We should not risk it."

>>5216672
>Keep them all sedated
No point killing them all specially when their use isn't up.

>>5216701
>Support

>>5216672
>Keep them all sedated.
Shove them in stasis and stockpile them. No need to kill them but we cannot currently train them apparently since the knowledge is lost to us. Maybe one day we can awaken them with purpose in the future.

>>5216546
Eh, I more meant in terms of Lucius itself with an artificial star PLASMA EVERYTHING should be our local shtick in terms of local defensive weaponry cause it's not like your gonna ever run out of plasma. So just upgrade Lucius into a plasma spewing fortress of doom. Not like your ever gonna run out of ammo...like ever.

I have a fondness for magnetic accelerators because they are very easy on logistics due to the ease of munitions and 40k already has the power supply issue solved. So the logistics are pretty simple. More importantly, it hits a hell of a lot harder than a fucking flashlight and is vastly easier on logistics than bolters or plasma/meltas. So I think it's ultimately a lot more useful than Volkite weaponry given the complexity of other human forces. I was thinking it would be particularly helpful for Hive worlds and the like. Plus yeah Necron gauss is a ways away I think it has headed in the right direction.

Another weapon I think is vastly underrated is Thermite and incendiary in general, especially against orks. Plasma and fire will burn their spores. I know Tau has pulse aka ionic weaponry but we need more burning against orks. Sadly I do not have any good ideas against psykers besides null tech. I do think though we should exploit radiation weaponry more along with vibration and sonic based.

Wait the Mitu are organic yes...so wouldn't radiation and chemical weaponry potentially be especially effective? Maybe viral? Actually no plagues don't want a fucking Nurgle accidentally.

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>>5216610
Gonna guess linking ship shields to help deflect large blows is also too OP.

Yeah, it would have been nice to consider it for larger ships too but if its unbalanced then by all means.

Is there a way to gauge if something is going to be balanced if we ever wanna come up with designs? Would linked shields be too OP for Acillians or vehicles for example?

>>5216864
Just don't abuse the chemicals and radiation too much, we spent some significant time and resources on the FAG by cleaning the place up, and if even full machines have a limit on how much they can take, the mechanicus force would too.
I fucking misstype the captcha 7 times, I think my brain is leaking.

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>>5216864
Lorewise Lucius is renowned for its strong armor plating derived from Luciun, which is made via the artificial core, as well as having (though I don't know if we have done it yet) rediscovered the Mecharius Heavy Tank

The secrets of Plasma is more Ryza's thing. That being said, nothing stops us from one day going to Ryza, or Talos just being so smart that he can do it himself, to develop superior plasma weapons production. My main beef against Plasma is primarily lack of range and speed in comparison to beam weapons, but these could theoretically be mitigated. I do think Plasma makes for superior artillery capability than standard shells though

>I have a fondness for magnetic accelerators because they are very easy on logistics due to the ease of munitions
Define Magnetic Accelerators? Do they use a metal core for ammunition or plasma? Not too big a fan of that since it does rely on a finite supply of matter. A plasma weapon with some armor piercing kinetic punch does sound nice

Personally, my proposed solution to all of that would be me ideas on a Waldenclyffe Transceiver to be inveted alongside T35LA. Imagine if, anywhere on a ship, near a dedicated trasnceiver vehicle or base, an Acillian never needs to concern himself with running out of ammunition or energy charges? His weapon automatically ressuplied and recharged via galvanic energy waves through the air. The Necrons do something similar where their weapons do not need to be reloaded or supplied, simply deriving power from a field of generated energy in the air

And if we can go further with Technomancy to develop matter-synthesis devices, we could further implement even solid slug accelerator munitions much easier by having the ammunition created within the weapon itself, ready for use

A device like that would eliminate so many logistical constraints and allow for a wide variety of energy weapons to have their potency increased

>Sadly I do not have any good ideas against psykers besides null tech
There's a whole field of Null tech. . .. Everything from weapons to empower nulls, to small infantry, medium vehicle and large planetary scale generators. it's just Xenos knowledge right now

>Another weapon I think is vastly underrated is Thermite and incendiary in general
Not a bad idea at all, though I think Heat Ray/Plasma type weapons still have greater functionality than anything fuel based. In the Mechanicus Game, they even combined plasma throwers with Gauss disintegration energy, so we could just hose down spore areas and watch the green disintegrating energies spread out and consume stuff.

There's also Phosphex weapons too, nasty stuff and very hard to clean, but they burn with intense radiation.

Anyway, today is not that day. If it is in QMs plans, maybe one day Talos can have some glorious turns purely for tinkering and experimenting and weapons design but we should focus on the here and the now.

>>5216894
We still have not yet implemented our Separation of Forge and Civilian world ideas that were thrown around a few threads ago. As far as I can tell, there are still humans living on Lucius unless I'm wrong.

Radiation or toxic air isn't too big a problem if the entire population is servitors/techpriests. The problem is primarily when the unfortunate thing is that there's weak fleshy humans living on the world.

If we can achieve better planetary specialization, then really only the most toxic of stuff that would render it difficult to live for even servitors/machines (like radioactive phosphex) shouldn't be too big a problem.

>>5216897
Depends. Magnetic accelerator just shoots matter super fast. A sufficiently energized matter before expulsion will partially transform into plasma before ejection and shoot REALLY fast really far ala sonic boom. Transforming into a hybrid matter/energy blast weapon. Depends on how we want to go about it really. Gauss weapons can be surprisingly versatile like that.

I mainly support it since it's easier on logistics and hits harder than typical Imperial flashlights. The munition is super easy to make and acquire. Not as nearly as chemically complex as propellent or bolters. Plus bolter munitions are absolute bitch to manufacture and the logistics behind it are very annoying. Gauss far superior. Yet flashlights are fine but that is me being annoyed at 40k Imperial retardation.

>>5216894
I was more thinking in space and boarding actions. Obviously not such a good idea planetside. Mitu have a fondness for organic tech might as well use that against them no?

>>5216899
We have the moment we captured the non Forge Worlds. The FAG applies only to Forge Worlds. We have yet to come up with a derivative of FAG for non Forge worlds to keep them pristine. We currently possess only two Forge Worlds reformed under FAG. We really should figure out what to do with those shitty Hive worlds convert them into proper Forge Worlds or something. Not to mention an actual policy for non Hive worlds besides converting them into inefficient Knight Worlds.

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>>5216864
>>5216922
I suggest using the phrase "Accelerator" weapons since that's how 40k differentiates between that and Necron Guass.

Also, using Magnetic Acceleration to launch plasma at superior ranges, speed and amor punching? There is in fact, a 40k example of that.

Our favorite blue aliens do it as their standard weapon of choice.

But, nothing stops us from doing it 10,000 years ahead of them and proving that we are every bit as smart as them. And doing it better than they ever could. Maybe even making our own fast moving battle suits, to bridge the gap between Knights and Men and give our skitarii some armor capability.

>>5216924
Also by "favorite" I mean "oh warp no these xenos have to die in particular" aliens. If we ever live long enough to meet them. Unrestricted abominable intelligences? That's just heresy in a flying can.

Lol all this weapon theories. In Infinite and Divine Trazyn complains how his mind is literally hardwired to try and record and analyze stuff for posterity, even when he is about to die his brain is just recording the details of the weapon about to kill him in slow motion. Maybe this is part of what goes through Talos head even as he tries to plan the defense of his planet against overwhelming Ork attack.