Dominus TalOS DAV1S; Born of the Empyrion, Abhuman Superior, Potential Chosen of the Machine God, Traditionalist, Princep of Particep Semper, and Father of the Acillian. ‘Born’ upon the world of Lucius, TalOS has grown in just nine years to one of the most important Tech Priests of the planet. Through his ability as a Princep TalOS tore through the attacking Plastoids and saved Lucius from what might have been a total annihilation. Realizing the Forge World needed something more to protect itself, TalOS used his very own genetic template to create a legion of one thousand Warrior Priests known as the Acillian. Now with the rank of Dominus, TalOS will lead his freshly created Sons into a war of revenge against the Plastoids. And he shall not show these Xenos any mercy. ++The Rules++>Vote with Greentext>Write-ins can be accepted, and might even be used in the final without majority rule. Previous Threads: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=The%20Machine%20QM
The void was a dark and cold place. A vast nothingness that only has meaning to those who are capable enough to comprehend its secrets. Such comprehension was being done by the numerous Magi and Machine Spirits assigned to the operation of the navigation systems. What was produced by these Tech Priests was a string of code containing the optimal numbers for Warp Travel. These included but was not limited to the strength of the Warp Gate, the balance of the Gellar Field, and the amount of mental thoughts that the Skitarii were allowed to have in order to encourage a certain direction. These calculations was something the Tech Priests of Forge World Lucius understood almost innately. Numerous experiments involving teleportation and the Warp had lead them to knowing so much more about the effects of Warp Based travel then most other Forge Worlds. Even with this benefit however they still had problems. They had to travel in a series of jumps, each jump taking approximately six hours to complete. These were because the calculations given by the Magi gave an unacceptable margin of error once you got beyond 10 light years. These errors were not acceptable, especially when there was a tendency for spawning ships into one another and causing a catastrophic collusion. The Warp was a dangerous place to humans, both mechanical and flesh alike. TalOS, as well as the entire Forge World of Lucius, knew this to be the case. Currently hanging out in space were a total of Twelve sacred Void Ships. At the center of them all was the greatest ship of them all, the Ark Mechanicus Lucius that was told to be the progenitor of Forge World Lucius. Said ship had been awakened by order of the Fabricator General, currently being commanded by Arch Dominus J0LT. The Arch Dominus was also the head of the Plastoid Crusade, his command currently equal to any demands the Fabricator General would make. From the Ark Mechanicus data was given via Data-Tether to each of the Subordinate Ships. Every time they exited the Warp the Ark Mechanicus would glare at the Plastoid’s Home World to gather as much information as they could. After the Arch Dominus reviewed the information he created a several Giga-Byte review that detailed the potential attack plan and sent it to the other ships. These ships, with their Prime Dominus at its head, would review the information and make their own edits to send back to the Arch Dominus himself. These Prime Domini during this time could, if they decided, distribute the given information to their Fellow Dominus who were currently their Subordinates.
The room the pair were within gave a subtle green glow as they looked at the Holo Feed in front of them. These two could view this information within their personal Cogitators and have the information processed by their personal Machine Spirits. They however did not choose that because it made their collaboration just that little bit harder. Thus the display was out in the open, interfaced by the pair of Domini with mechanirites. +Nine grand cities, they must have attempted to create a mockery of this with the Spires.+ TalOS pointed out as he placed a rough image of the ritual lines he had previously determined, +The Plastoids see this arrangement as holy. Possibly them trying to get power from their God?+ +Analysing, possible.+ Admitted his fellow Dominus as the fellow spun the world around for a few moments, +It is not hard pressed that their God has rites and rituals just like the Machine God. They are but foul imitations however.+ +Beyond foul, it is the action of Heathens.+ Declared TalOS as he watched the hologram move before him. Within moments a series of images were shown to them, displaying the twelve ships of their fleet near the atmosphere of the planet. It then displayed a series of attacks and menuevers that were to be accomplished across the globe. +Three locations the Arch Dominus has identified as potential landing zones. Based on the information gathered beforehand the city of Lorsch, Slaw, and Kikir are all logistical hubs for the enemy. Elimination of these are paramount to our success.+ Declared D3X as he zoomed in on their ship, the Onus Probandi. +Hmm, it looks like the Arch Dominus has taken my suggestions to heart and wants to make a teleportation drop.+ TalOS said as he reviewed the feed, +Once the Homing Beacons are settled we will be able to teleport the Acillians to gain a landing zone, which will then be used to welcome the Titans and Skitarii to reinforce the position. If all goes well, we will be able to take the city within a day.+ +Analysis concured.+ Announced D3X as he turned off the feed, +The Arch Dominus has shown his years with this.+ +He has, indeed he has.+ TalOS admitted as he placed several records of their conversation into memory.
+This will be our first battle as Domini.+ TalOS informed his fellow with a thin bit of wonder in his voice. +May the Machine God bless this day then.+ Declared Dominus D3X as he finished the rite of deactivation, +This will also be the first field test for your Sons.+ TalOS gave a solemn nod as he heard that, +I believe they will perform well, and I will be there to support them in the initial beachhead. I do wonder if it is wise to not be within Particep Semper though.+ +Teleporting a Titan from 57 units above to the ground has an Error Margin of 67% with simple Teleportation Homers. You know this, Dominus TalOS.+ D3X scrutinized with a good bit of weight in his words. +I do, however it is what Particep Semper desires. Even as he sleeps the Titan knows we are approaching the foe who so grievously injured the Forge World.+ TalOS admitted to his true thoughts on the matter. +Observation, you are not immune to the Manifold. That is to be expected.+ Dominus D3X identified within only a moment of thought. +There is not much that can be done about it.+ TalOS admitted as the two walked down the hall, +You know, Dominus D3X, you have not told me what kind of battle form you are taking for the coming fight. What have you decided upon?+ +Processing request, retrieving information.+ The man said before sending TalOS a package, +Standard Dominus Battleform with Volkite Blaster and Heavy Stubber. I however plan to be backed up by my personal Skitarii Ranger Guard as I believe their armaments are capable enough to eliminate the Xenos within two shots.+ +Two shots? I remember the records were stating at least three to four per Xenos.+ TalOS said as he reviewed the package, +However the proof is here, however this does not tell me what you have done to improve the ratio.+ +I have implemented a new magnetic field structure about the firearm by hand, giving it a 23% increase in mass per shot. Do you wish to see?+ Asked the Artisan with a small bit of hope in his voice. >No, it would be time to go see Particep Semper>My Sons need to be checked on, sorry friend. >Sure, maybe there is something about your design that can be standardized.
>>5065830>Sure, maybe there is something about your design that can be standardized.
>>5065830>Sure, maybe there is something about your design that can be standardized
>>5065830>>Sure, maybe there is something about your design that can be standardized.> and if not maybe they can be produced for my sons considering their low numbers.
>>5065830>>Sure, maybe there is something about your design that can be standardized.Experimentation, as far as I can remember, is not heresy in and of itself, especially when such improvements can be referenced within other STC fragments (which considering some of the bullshit the DOAT humans got up to is more than likely.)Also can't wait to see what happens when our legion meets our kids. It's like the parent trap, but with super soldiers, and only one parent.
+Sure, maybe there is something we can apply to the other weapons and armaments.+ Admitted TalOS with a good amount of openness of mind. The two of them made their way through the halls of the Onus Probandi. A good amount of the structure was angular and filled with exposed piping, which maybe to a normal man would have put them off. However to the Tech Priests of Lucius these exposures was something of both a particle aspect for the Tech Priests doing inspections and beautiful in that many of their fellow priests could admire their work. Within about half an hour they arrived in one of the many barrack wings of the ship. They were scattered throughout a ship of this size so that troops could be quickly deployed. If they were all in one place, the response rate would drop by a staggering 50% in many areas across the ship. This one here was filled with Skitarii. Many of them belonged to numerous Domini around the ship, but mainly it belonged to those who directly paid fealty to the Dominus Dux of the ship. +GHS546, present to me your armament.+ Declared Dominus D3X as he made his way towards a series of Skitarii who were currently doing maintenance. The one who was called out quickly got out of his seat and ran over to the two Priests. D3X took the weapon out of the Skitarii’s hands and placed it on a nearby table. TalOS had to take a moment to study the frame of the machine with his eyes, already being able to read the device from here. +This is fine craftsmanship.+ Declared TalOS as he rubbed his hand across the frame and traced the golden lines, +And the Machine Spirit is quite calm, as if their person was crafted with a sheer precision needed to make them relaxed. Do you mind if commit a ritual of disassemblement?+ +Permission granted.+ The pride coming out of D3X was almost blinding just from those words alone. TalOS took out a series of tools he always kept upon his person, +Release the tension wire, unscrew the modular, clear the two halfs from one another.+ Of course TalOS could have blazed through this and maybe he could have even ignored doing so. He had already learned a good majority about the weapon before him just by looking at it with his eyes. However the Primarch decided to still take it apart, for it would be foolish to think you know everything from a glance. I’m trying to come up with good names for certain positions. I cannot really find any names for those who would essentially be equal to a Marshal of an army. Dominus Primes are now Dominus Dux (Literally just Dominus Commander but latinized.)
The first thing he noted was the sheer quality of work. Throughout the firearm the precision of wiring and bolts was something a manufacturing machine could not achieve. No, this was the work of the true artisan that was in love with his craft. TalOS then examined the rifle itself. The Galvanic Rifle is a special armament that uses a ‘Servitor Round’ to gather up a large amount of electricity. This made it so that every shot was able to hit much harder than other weapons, such as those using Radium, would originally be able to manage. Most of these parts were exceptional, lovingly crafted by the hands of D3X himself. Their dimensions were the prime standard, reaching the top percentile of said quality. Though this was not what TalOS was here to see he enjoyed these few moments to absorb his friend’s work. The next TalOS turned towards was the barrel itself, +A six wires twisted across the interior of the barrel causing the Servitor Round to spin in mid air, divorced to the straight lines that are used normally. How were you able to achieve this?+ +Data selected, this was initially done via the retrofitting of wires into the rifled barrels of stubber weapons. I have since adjusted the process and now employ a series of tools in order to carve out metal of the correct type and quality.+ TalOS nodded as he looked deeper at the wiring, +Instead of using an adhesive or melting the two metals together you fitted the wires to an exact degree throughout the rifling. Hmm, I was hoping it would be possible to produce this armament but it seems that only Artisans would be capable of such a make.+ +Indeed that is the case. While I was blessed to realize the solution to the holding of wires I too do not believe that it is reproducible through standard assembling machinery.+ Admitted the Artisan, +This is one of the main reasons that my designs are still under review even after a year worth of its existance.+ +Most designs are not approved for at least two to three years worth of existence.+ TalOS told him with a good bit of will in his heart, +The reasoning is sound, essentially giving the Servitor Round a spin to increase penetration.+ As TalOS said these words the ship itself began to shake and shift, a red light coming one from the nearby door. The rumbling came to a crescendo before it stopped completely and all the lights returned to their standard color. They had entered the Warp once more it seems.
TalOS took a moment to collect his thoughts after the entering into the Warp, +That does bring the question, is it truly impossible for it to be standardized?+ +I have been considering it for a while, however there are no STC fragments that are supporting it and the time I took making it with my current tools only allowed me to shorten the time to three times the original. While the extra penetration is useful, having three arms for the cost of a single higher performing one means the opportunity cost is in favor of the original design.+ TalOS nodded to himself for a few moments as he thought about it, +Would it be possible for you to demonstrate this to my Sons? If it is approved but not able to be brought into construction, I think they would benefit highly from having a weapon such as this one.+ +That is a consideration, and reasonable.+ Admitted the Tech Priest as he thought to himself a bit more, +However they will not be able to do what has been done here without a great amount of training. Thus I would desire them to at least be of the Artisans before I were to teach them this technique.+ +Becoming an Artisan… that would mean they would need to assume the rank of Tech Priest.+ TalOS said as he thought to himself more and more. +It is rare, indeed, but there have been Skitarii who have ascended to the rank of Tech Priest before.+ pointed out D3X as he handed TalOS a series of examples, +However I believe it would be a change in their relationship between the two of you, considering they will gain a series of rights allotted to all of the anointed.+ +The right to discovery, the ability to amass their own property, and the requirement of a contract with me.+ TalOS summarized the few of many rights given to a priest, +I have been considering the idea of this coming, however I still do not know what to make of it.+ +Comprehension reached, indeed it is something to study and weigh the benefits of. There is also a series of precedents and laws that must be considered before you elect either. I would suggest you look into these as the crusade comes to an end.+ TalOS gave a nod in agreement to his equal in rank, +Your matrix has yet to fail either of us it seems, Dominus D3X.+ TalOS said as he gave a subtle bow to the Tech Priest. +Do not try to oil me up, TalOS. We will wait till after the Crusade to discuss this further.+ Said Dominus D3X as his voice was far more deadpan that usual. +The cost of trying was minimal, it was worth the shot.+ TalOS said back with a smirk. >Continue to bullshit with D3X. >TalOS should make his way to his Sons, preparing them for the battle>Particep Semper has been getting a little restless, might go visit him.
>>5066596>TalOS should make his way to his Sons, preparing them for the battleParticep will get his glorious battle soon, but our sons deployment will come first.Unless he has hidden in his memories a way to safely teleport to the ground.
>>5066596>TalOS should make his way to his Sons, preparing them for the battle
>>5066596>Soothe the titan mentally.>Visit our sons.
>>5066596On one hand talking with best girl (particep semper) is always nice, but on the other our sons probably need help>TalOS should make his way to his Sons, preparing them for the battlehttps://youtu.be/XTgfYSgh2FU
>>5066596>TalOS should make his way to his Sons, preparing them for the battlewe don't wanna neglect the best girl, but Particep will be sitting this battle out, so we should spend time with our sons who will be there.
>>5066908I thought he will be deployed after we secure a Landing zone?If the last vote means we won't be riding in our titan then I'm changing my vote.
>>5066937Yes, particeps and us wil be sitting the battle for the landing zone out, nothing we can do about it unless he pulls a secret teleportation tech out of his databanks.
>>5066596 #>TalOS should make his way to his Sons, preparing them for the battle
>>5067091I mean the entire battle for the planet, The landing zone which was understood to be risky and dangerous for teleporting a large object would be a bad idea, I thought this was clearly implied? It might just be safer to drop him from the sky with rockets and parachutes to land.
>>5067514There are nine cities, each one is fping to take more tha one quick battle to take, don't worry.Lucius specialty is teleportation, I doubt are going to use titan drop pods. Not that I think there would even be one big enough for a Imperator Titan.
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>>5067592Inb4 we get insta killed
>>5067544>Not that I think there would even be one big enough for a Imperator Titan.Spot the heretic!Obligatory Hold my sacred oils for me!
+See you in three hours for the final review, Dominus D3X.+ TalOS told his fellow as he reassembled the weapon and made his way towards the door, +Do make sure your men are ready, for my Acillian will be.+ +They are always ready, Dominus TalOS.+ Answered back by the Tech Priest answered as he looked over the reassembled form of the Galvanic Rifle.Walking out of the room TalOS had some things to think about. He had saved all the information that D3X gave him and had already moved on to other things to question and consider. The top of these was the coming battle. Their target was already declared, the city of Slaw. TalOS knew that the city sat upon the equator of the planet, making it sudo-isolated from the rest of the planet. If they were able to strike fast enough and with enough force they could likely take the place over and start to use its own defences against their makers. TalOS was not completely fine with that. He did consider that the only real defences they would be using would be a series of walls that outlined the majority of the city. These walls prevented ground assault while a dome covered the entire place to prevent aerial assault. It would be the first true test of the Acillians to take this city from enemy hands. However there was only so many times that TalOS could rehearse the coming battle. His mind soon drifted towards home and his parents who were left behind. Magos C4R and E11IE, while wanting to come, had to stay back thanks to this entire operation being undertaken by the Domini. After all, if they failed here logic dictated that if they failed here there needed to be those who would prepare for the inevitable counter attack to their current counter attack. TalOS kinda wished at this point they could start throwing rocks at one another. He was saddened upon the realization that it would take years for the rocks to reach the alien's planet and give them enough time to prepare for the asteroid. However that childish thought was put away when TalOS felt something shift near him. The air becoming more tense as warp energies began to collalest. The next moment he felt anger and power, the desire to rampage against a foe that was currently unseen by him. They were detected, not by TalOS, but by Particep Semper. In that moment, in the middle of the Chaotic Warp the ship shook for a moment. In that single moment TalOS activated one of his Father’s inventions, a teleportation scrambler, that saved his life right when numerous balls of chaotic light ripped into reality through the Gellar Field’s influence. Out stepped the Plastoids, nearly thirty Plastoids at either side of the hallway. All prepared to fight.
These next few moments were a blur, even to a Primarch. These next few moments decided the fate of this exhibition, more so than anything that came before. If TalOS made a single movement, a single inch, in the wrong direction the Primarch would face death. He was a Primarch and Chosen of the Machine God though.The first action that TalOS committed was taking out a Volkite Blaster that was made by his trusted son, AL4N. Three shots rang out as he engaged the machine into a fully automatic fire that went through three of the Plastoids with perfect aim. It was to his luck that the bolts of energy did not stop there and carried into the stomachs of two that were wrongfully standing behind them. He was not finished yet, was already getting out a stubber crafted for him by an upstart Acillian by the name of NIK0LA. He gave the firearm a pair of shots right into the skull of a Plastoid, severing their brain matter from the rest of their body with a gory affair. In the next millisecond TalOS felt the air around him begin to move and mutate. In a quick understanding TalOS ripped his hand forward and torn asunder the foul witchcraft that was about to be used against him. It was a violent display of denial causing the sorcerer to implode through the sheer force of TalOS’s retaliation. He had to do the same against another, this time preventing the golden lights from coalescing around him in a foul attempt to take over the Dominus' sensory organs. However that was the last denial of their foul sorceries as the numerous witches around him caused the air around TalOS to become caked in ozone. Lightning, several strikes of it, blasted into TalOS. He felt his flesh beginning to rend from his body. Numerous blood vessels within his body began to bleed a dark black as the Autosanguine systems that were within his body went into overdrive in an attempt to rescue the Primarch. Assassination.That was their objective. He would deny them that!Administrative User Endangered!Before the the attacks could all land and kill the already heavily injured Primarch, several of the vents within the room shattered into a million pieces as the room was flooded with a sea of servo skulls. As if the hand of the Machine God itself rescued its most vital asset from the machinations of another God, TalOS was saved as numerous Machine Spirits gave their lives to save him.
+DEUS MECHANICUS!+With a warcry TalOS ran at the largest amount of Plastoids. These milliseconds was also when the numerous Servo-Skulls assigned themselves under TalOS’s control, allowing him to gain an immense amount of information about where the Xenos were and where they were injured by the skulls. Before TalOS would have to process all of this information, laying out his plan and assigning his strikes within a few seconds of thought. However, now with the Dominus War Programs processing the data and him reviewing this information to employ in his next few attacks, TalOS was able to do so in a mere .47s of a second. First he aggregated the fact his arm carrying the Volkite was singed beyond use, causing the Primarch to drop the less efficient stubber in trade off for his custom Volkite. He then raised his gun, the War Programs giving him the same kind of assistance that TalOS previously gave to the Skitarii under his command. The Machine Spirits of the Program and TalOS together were approaching a perfect symbiotic relationship only a Tech Priest of his skill and these Machine Spirits could reach. The results spoke for themselves. A single shot of the Volkite swam through and perfectly avoided the Servo-Skulls, gaining purchase upon the neck of a Plastoid whose armor had been damaged from one of the flying skulls flying into it. Upon its death the bolt still had energy, sending two strands of molten flesh and metal into those who stood behind him. This was repeated by the two other bolts of Volkite Blaster Fire. TalOS then quickly followed these bolts in a way only a Primarch could. In a flash the Mechanrites upon TalOS’s back had already given the Dominus his Omnissian Axe. A prize this weapon was, especially when it was within the hands of a Primarch. The first Plastoid did not see the strike coming through the sea of skulls. A chink in his breastplate was all TalOS needed to remove his legs from the torso. The ground beneath the Xenos’ feet began to shake as a full bred Demi-God began the dangerous slaughtering of their kind. The remaining eight were killed, this entire flank destroyed as TalOS’s programmed Mastery of the Omnissian Axe did not let him down just for a second. With their annihilation TalOS quickly turned towards the others who were fighting. Numerous sparks and explosions erupted as psychic powers and plasma fire were shot into the skulls. TalOS felt a simmering hatred as he crossed through the hall and slammed himself into the remaining Xenos. This time there were six of them, all killed on the edge of his Omnissian Axe. It was then the fight ended, only twelve seconds passing from the moment the Xenos appeared to now.
With a moment’s thought TalOS quickly assigned the numerous Servo-Skulls to his control, identifying them as ones who were suppose to be in storage right above him. He thanks the Machine God upon his two hearts as the Primarch quickly reached for some form of communication. He did not get any however, likely because of the Warp Interference by the Xenos coming upon the ship. His current position placed him a little ways past the middle of the ship. This placed him a good way towards his Sons, and a good way away from the Bridge of the ship. There however was also the numerous life support systems that kept this void ship even alive. >Go meet up with the Acillians. >Best to get with the other Domini, after all this entire attack is an assassination mission. >Fuck! The Gellar Fields!pic not actual layout. Just one I grabbed.
>>5067638>Fuck! The Gellar Fields!If they get those down than it's easy backup for them.
>>5067638>Fuck! The Gellar Fields!
>>5067638>Fuck! The Gellar Fields!our sons can probably handle themselves and if the gellar fields go down we are royally FUCKED
>>5067638>>Fuck! The Gellar Fields!
>>5067638>Geller fields.>Entreat the ship to trigger the alarm.
Oh shit a Mechanicus Primarch quest.Are we smarter than Perty and Ferrus?
>>5068093We made our own bootleg space marines, so maybe?
>>5068093Obviously! After all we know of the glory of the machine God. Only fools don't acknowledge the infinite might and perfection of the machine God
>>5068114This guy has it down. Perty took only a few days to learn 'all the secrets' Mars had to offer. We all know he was just doodling aqueducts and the Tech Priests sent him home after giving up on him.
How will we deal with big E being a godless heathen even if he is potentially the omnissiah? Actually considering we have learned to be suspicious of witchcraft would we believe the emperor is the omnissiah or would we believe he is a witch using sorcery to fake being the omnissiah?
>>5068166He was not the oninissiah, but merely a vessel for the Motive Force to create the primarchs and the Imperium.Obivously our creation is fundamental in the coming of the omniasiah, if ourselves aren't it.
Ya know, even though the device is very important I cannot easily find a picture for a Gellar Field like I could a warp drive.
>>5068176i found this image of the reality anchor from the scp universe maybe we could use it as an interpretation of a gellar field
>>5068184I like it.
He ran through the numbers and algorithms that were within his system. The numerous Machine Spirits that he had collected over the relatively short years of his life quickly went through the selection of information available. Creating a rendezvous with his sons was something he very much considered, but TalOS already ruled that they would be able to take care of themselves. As for the Bridge, well the priority of the Dominus’s current objected subverted all others. Information Gathered.Priority Assigned: Protect the Gellar Field.TalOS could not agree more with his Machine Spirits. Quickly the Primarch ran through the halls with speeds comparable to vehicles. Around him a swarm of Servo-Skulls went through to back up the Tech Priest in whatever escapade he chose. The alarms of the ship blared as the defence Machine Spirits confirmed the numerous attacks upon the hull of the Onus Probandi. In these few moments he quickly tested out his limbs. He could feel a faint pain going across his flesh as the Primarch tried his best to measure out the wounds. Most of his wounds were first and second degree burns, all created by the foul powers of the Xenos. The most devestating of them all was the fleshwound upon his right bicep, which was not only a third degree burn but several scorched holes were drilled into his flesh. To put it simply TalOS had lost the limb for the time being. From his sheer knowledge of his own autotomy it could possibly be repaired with several days of maintenance. Still, that was asking for days and not the minutes that TalOS currently had. The only fix that the Primarch could do was ordering his Mechanrites to reach down and snare his flesh arm. Thus the Primarch’s right arm was simply being puppeted by the Mechanrites, but it was enough for him to handle a Stubber once more. It was thanks to this that TalOS was able to skillfully take down each and every group of enemies that he faced in his trip over. The Plastoids were mainly in groups ranging from five to ten persons, which meant that a majority of them received Volkite bolts in the heads and necks while their heads were severed by the strong grip of Mechanrites. In all these fights TalOS made sure not to incur the wrath of his enemies by murdering them as fast as he could. While he had the Servo-Skulls to protect him, TalOS knew that he could easily get too close and give the Xenos enough time to get him killed.
With the sheer amount of Servo-Skulls TalOS was able to identify the siege encampment that the Xenos seemed to have made outside the Gellar Field’s holding facility. There were a total of fifteen assigned duking it out with only eight Skitarii and Servitors. It was a blessing by the Machine God that TalOS was able to make it before the attackers were able to breach the defences. However, as TalOS was studying them through Servo-Skulls, the Xenos obviously figured out that he was there. Several of them were already turning to face him. With a fire in his stomach the Primarch decided it was now or never, and quickly made his way over while ordering the attack by the Servo-Skulls. The next minute was something closer to a blur, the numerous skulls being incinerated by the attacks being made by the Plastoids. These attacks ranged from plasma to psychic, but even though these attacks injured the swarm of Servo-Skulls they did not do any harm to TalOS. And that was exactly what the Primarch needed. His weapons to bare, TalOS was right behind the dead flying skulls with a Volkite Blaster slamming into three of the Xenos. While these strikes were not as perfect as TalOS would have wanted, they still caused four other xenos to die as the shots continued forward and struck these sadden xenos with molten slag. In a flash TalOS was upon the remaining Xenos, bringing down his Omnissian Axe through their necks and skulls. With a series of sweeping strikes the Primarch was able to cut down their number from seven remaining to a mere one. This last one tried to do something, however his attempts were quickly stopped as from behind a large Servitor arm came around its waist and raised the Xenos in the air. There was a loud crunch as the Servitor engaged a series of hydraulics to augment its strength to nearly the same amount TalOS uninjured could achieve. TalOS looked at the fallen body of the Xenos and then looked at the machine, +Thank you, DFY8777. You have made the Machine God proud.+ The Servitor gave a low, but happy, buzz as it returned towards the barricade with TalOS in tow. As he approached the eight remaining Skitarii quickly gave the Dominus a bow as was custom. TalOS raised his hand and gave the relief command, the machines quickly standing up straight as was accustomed by their Machine Spirit’s programming.
+Status report.+ TalOS declared as he looked over to see the massive array of technology that made up the Gellar Field Generator. +Enginseer F0LT, our liege, was killed by the Xenos threat.+ Declared the most metal of the Skitarii, +Objective given was to protect Life Support Systems. Objective is currently being fulfilled.+ +Smart.+ TalOS said as he glanced over and saw the numerous corpses of fallen Skitarii, +Have you been able to make contact with any Tech Priests within the ship?+ +Negative, Dominus. Attempts to Data-Tether with allied Skitarii have failed.+ +Have you attempted wired based communication?+ +Unable. This nor and my other seven units do not contain the necessary knowledge or augmentations.+ The machine said while pointing to a nearby port, +That is the nearest port.+ TalOS nodded before dashing towards the system and looking over it. Even at a time like this he needed to adhere to ritual, which meant cleaning out the port and then examining it to make sure the port was still structurally sound. Upon completion the Primarch injected his Mechanrite into the system and began to test out the numerous systems and Machine Spirits presented to him. +Oh Spirit of Onus Probandi, please grant me the sensory applications I so desperately seek.+ TalOS spoke before inserting his Mechanrite into the machine. The next few moments was TalOS being flooded with programming and information. The Machine Spirit however must have been in some way disturbed, as TalOS could not see a good strand of logic throughout its computations. Such a thing was not good, and was obviously the work of whatever the Xenos was using to jam the entire ship.
However that did not mean comprehension was impossible. The mind of a Primarch was something that should never be underestimated, especially one who was educated in the workings of this very thing. Scrambled pieces of data were organized and placated while others were assigned to the dumpster. It took TalOS a whole minute to realize the information, but he was able to identify these things. First, the Bridge was damaged nearby beyond repair. Numerous damage reports coming from there dictated that it was likely one of the primary locations for the Plastoids to attack, and they must have succeeded considering TalOS could not get even a trace of communication from the Dux Dominus or his immediate crew. The second was that the vessel itself did not exhibit any external wounds. Maybe this was thanks to the infallible wisdom that the Warp is ultimately dangerous, but damn would he not put it below the Xenos to blow holes in the Voidcraft. Third was the detection of battle across the ship. TalOS could glean the faintest of communicae from those still alive, which he instantly recognized two of them being of Dominus D3X and Mitarii AL4N. Both were requesting orders, but TalOS couldn’t send any packets of information before the packets experienced immense loss through the cyber works. It seemed the Acillians took over the Titan Hangers while Dominus D3X was slowly migrating towards the Bridge. However, even with all that was happening now, TalOS was able to make the Fourth and final observation. This observation was that they were still on path towards the Plastoid homeworld. Arrival would be in two hours fifteen minutes. >Stay in position, using whatever systems available to commandeer recruits for Gellar Field Defence. >Get to the Acillians!>Catch up with D3X towards the Bridge>Try and give an honest effort in repairing the failing Machine Spirit of Onus Probandi. Though this means you will be disabled for the immediate future.
>>5068205>warn the defenders of the Life Support Systems of what we are going to do and prepare them for any possible scenario with our protocols>Try and give an honest effort in repairing the failing Machine Spirit of Onus Probandi. Though this means you will be disabled for the immediate future.
>>5068205>Stay in position, using whatever systems available to commandeer recruits for Gellar Field Defence.>Try and give an honest effort in repairing the failing Machine Spirit of Onus Probandi. Though this means you will be disabled for the immediate future.Get whatever reiforcements we can and than start repairing.
>>5068212I just wanna say this now, if you read the wording, you cannot choose both the repairing and the recruiting. Both require your active attention and repairs will take all of yours.
>>5068227That's I said to do one after the other, and the recruiting to juat get whatever we can get.But I'm ok with cutting to just repairing, having comunications back is too important.
>>5068205>Repair the spirit.
>>5067638 #>>Fuck! The Gellar Fields!
>>5068205 #>Repair the spirit.
>>5068205>Stay in position, using whatever systems available to commandeer recruits for Gellar Field Defence.
>>5068276bruh
Imagine if we meet proto Cawl.Also I hope we live and become the next Archmagos. Maybe after the HH....I hope we survive the HH.
>>5068205>Try and give an honest effort in repairing the failing Machine Spirit of Onus Probandi. Though this means you will be disabled for the immediate future.having the ship itself helping to fight against the plastoids seems pretty helpful
>>5068205>Try and give an honest effort in repairing the failing Machine Spirit of Onus Probandi. Though this means you will be disabled for the immediate future
>>5068205>Try and give an honest effort in repairing the failing Machine Spirit of Onus Probandi. Though this means you will be disabled for the immediate future.
>>5068377I mean, atleast you guys don't need to worry about decapitation anymore. Seems like the only way Primarchs go out, though that might be because none of them wear helmets.
>>5068597Just curious, how come we have a body made of flesh?
Bro's, I just thought of something. Gellar fields apply a sphere/layer of 'normal reality' around a ship or area right? If they're programmable machines or even better, ones with an STC based design that can be modified and or added upon, couldn't you repurpose them to apply ANY desired effect on a a desired area?Think about it, Gellar tech basically insists another reality upon the one it's currently within. So, couldn't you essentially make Gellar field Cybernetics that allow you to play god in a certain short field of influence?
>>5068936I'm pretty sure that Gellar Field are enourmous, so I doubt it can be fitted as a cybernetic.
>>5068205>>Try and give an honest effort in repairing the failing Machine Spirit of Onus Probandi. Though this means you will be disabled for the immediate future.Fix da boat nao plz.
>>5068855Because a good amount of people on the last thread said: "We are already perfect and created, right? Since the Emperor is the one who created us." Don't worry, you will be able to get rid of your flesh real soon.
>>5068940I mean, a Primarch hasn't tried to shrink the area down. A Primarch with a near perfect understanding of machines might be able to pull something that many think impossible off.
TalOS disconnected his mind just for a moment, relieving himself of the Machine Spirit’s weight for those moments to think. This area was partially secure to the point where the Skitarii might be able to stave off another attack. But if the Plastoids made a concerted effort in trying to destroy this area they might very well succeed in breaching the Gellar Field. However, that left TalOS with the simple fact that if this Ship does not function, there might be no way of preventing the Plastoids from destroying the entire thing. Communications are down, making the ability to regroup and repel the invaders impossible. Thus there was only one thing the Dominus could do, +Skitarii, I will attempt to attune to the ship and repair her Spirit. You are to commandeer any allies you can and defend this place with your lives. Am I understood!+ +Understood, Dominus. We pray that you are successful.+ The man-machine said while making the cog with its hands. TalOS grew a small smile as the Servo-Skulls began swarming the area in a sort of mock ritual fashion, +Indeed, pray for me. If I am successful we shall defeat these Xenos and bring an end to this boarding!+ With that done TalOS took out a small burner of incense and lit it. The smell caressing his senses as he kneeled before the terminal. Time went by, and he allowed himself to slowly creep into the bowels of the mechanisms and systems. The next thing he knew the Primarch was no longer in the room containing the Gellar Field, but instead a sort of data center. He felt out what was a series of pipelines, all leading too and from different areas about the entire ship. These were the circuits that were meant to contain Onus Probandi’s functions and numerous Machine Spirits. That was the thing about larger Machine Spirits. While on the surface they are large and mighty things the Spirit itself was only a whole piece of numerous parts. Just like how the Machine God it but the extension of all Machine Spirits and the Motor Force, these systems and algorithms are what makes the Machine Spirit of Onus Probandi possible. However just as TalOS was in there he noticed a series of problems. Numerous problems that all stemmed from hostile code. Yes, these were viruses. The Xenos saw fit to release Viruses into Onus Probandi’s network. First things first TalOS needed to free the defences of Onus Probandi, its divine immune system. TalOS quickly retrieved a directory and navigated himself towards the Cogitator responsible for these functions, but was instead stopped by the Xenos Virus.
Several of them were blocking his way, clogging up the area with malicious and useless data. TalOS glanced at the data, realizing it all to be but gibberish to a person like him. Likely it was in the languages that the Xenos had, and the Xenos that TalOS consumed did not know of such protocols. Without much to do TalOS engaged the systems and started the Administrative override. The thing about Viruses was that they were sustained by the Machine Spirit itself, eating at its life force in order to continue its growth. To terminate them, a Tech Priest had to carefully prune the programs that were keeping it alive without harming the Machine Spirit itself. And TalOS did just that, cutting out a series of programs that allowed the Virus to infest this very cogitator. However, with those dead, TalOS felt a shift within the metal wires. They were looking at him, the Viruses were. Within moments, as if they were living creatures, the Viruses threw themselves at TalOS with the intent of infecting him.TalOS quickly started to fall back, summoning a series of barrier Machine Spirits from his personal databanks. Like a fiesty vermin they threw themselves at the wall like a literal fluid. The Tech Preist quickly started to slaughter the programs by deleting their current locations, but then something pierced the wall. “EAT HIM!” “GIVE UP, TALOS! YOU CANNOT WIN!”“RUN HIS ENTRAILS IN A CIRCLE! THEY WILL MAKE THE BEST SPELL!”They were speaking, the viruses were speaking to him! And they were not speaking in the divine tongue of the Mechanicum, but the language of the Plastoids. What in the world had the Xenos created!Fear however went away as fast as it came, for instead TalOS felt a subtle anger swelling within his stomach. These foul things, creations of a Dark God, they were a dark imitation of a Machine Spirit. With a thought TalOS explored the systems, laying the entire ship’s network within his mind. The next thought he gripped unto a subroute, jumping his connection through a pair of idle Noosphere Routers. This gave him a quick moment to flank these foul programs which with a swipe of the hand he deleted all the systems that were supporting their existence. It was comparable to taking a sword and slicing the tendrils of a foul mutant.
That attack had wounded the Viruses greatly, each of them trying to recover the strength they had so quickly lost. TalOS however did not give them a chance and started to clear out the stains upon the network. First he freed the defence systems, which soon created an army of Machine Spirits who were all prepared to follow TalOS’s orders. Quickly they all got to work, TalOS guiding the programs throughout the entire ship and clearing up wherever the Viruses thought were well defended. The mind of a Primarch was powerful enough that once the chink in the enemy’s front lines were found, TalOS divided and conqured each cogitator one program at a time. The pruning back of the Viruses soon led them to the source of them, TalOS quickly identifying it as some kind of Xenos cogitator. With the full force of Onus Probandi behind him, the Primarch sent a massive electro shock wave through it and blew the box into pieces. After a second of killing that damned machine TalOS felt for a single second the entirety of Onus Probandi. The Ship’s Machine Spirit, once again in full functioning order, gave the Primarch something akin to a cat lovingly rubbing itself against him before starting up the entire communications network. Since he was here TalOS started it: Dominus TalOS: Attention all personnel, Onus Probandi has finally been purged of all harmful programs. Report your positions immediately!And with a flash TalOS was flooded with information from all forms of soldiers and Priests. TalOS gained within those seconds a complete view of the entire ship, ranging from where it was injured to where the massive amounts of resistance were. The Bridge was lost, being home to what TalOS was realizing to be the main station of the invading force. Such information was relayed to Dominus D3X moments before he cross the point of no return, and luckily went into a nearby passage to avoid any guards. However besides this area there was only splotches of Xenos across the ship with nearly none at the back of the ship thanks to the Acillians. That meant that the Warp Drive was still safe, likely the second most important machine when one is traveling the warp. With all this information gained TalOS created a series of potential stratagems, though he had to choose which he wanted to employ. >Have everyone gather at the back of the fleet and sweep through the ship. >With his eyes wide now, have everyone strike and numerous locations where the Xenos are weakest from their current position. >Declare a fight for the bridge, afterall the first thing they needed to do was get it back in their control.
>>5068963>With his eyes wide now, have everyone strike and numerous locations where the Xenos are weakest from their current position.
>>5068963>>With his eyes wide now, have everyone strike and numerous locations where the Xenos are weakest from their current position.
>>5068953Yay
>>5068963>With his eyes wide now, have everyone strike and numerous locations where the Xenos are weakest from their current position. PRAISE BE UNTO THE MACHINE SPIRITS, FOR THEY DO NOT FALTER.
While TalOS could reroute the numerous forces around, that took time. If they did not exterminate these foul Xenos from the ship they were likely to cause enough damage that the Gellar Field might not be able to save them from the warp. Thus TalOS’s stratagem was determined, Strike Teams. First things first TalOS searched the rear of the ship and found that Onus Probandi had detected a series of small Xenos squads. If TalOS had to guess these foul creatures were trying to poke at the defences that his grand Acillians managed to create. With a smirk TalOS began by activating a nearby communication boee. The standard Acillian only has a short range vox caster on them. However, inside a ship of this size it was only a matter of a few switches and readjustment of frequencies before the TalOS finally got to them. The first one he addressed of course was the Mitarii, +AL4N, my Son, can you read me?+ +Father! You’re alive!+ The sudden shock within his voice was enough to make TalOS elate, +What is your position, I will personally lead the Acillians to you!+ +I am safe, Son. I am currently holding out in the Gellar Field Chamber.+ TalOS told the Acillian outright, +We need to take back the ship, that is the objective I am giving you. There are currently three teams of Xenos wondering the nearby halls in an attempt to find some sort of opening to the Titan Hanger.+ +Understood.+ TalOS heard a series of clicks that were the obvious channeling of a Vox Caster, +Speak their locations and the Centarii will have them destroyed.+ TalOS gave their locations, quickly deliberating a series of coordinates that guided them to the Xeno’s flank. TalOS however was aware that this would take a minute, a minute that he did not have. So the Primarch transferred this method of communicate to a series of Machine Spirits and a small fragment of his attention to make sure things happened correctly. Next was getting in touch this his fellows. Dominus TalOS: Fellow Domini, if you would allow me I have determined a method of executing the Xenos currently onboard Onus Probandi! Dominus CL3RK: Indeed you are young, Dominus TalOS, but what of the Dux Dominus!Dominus TalOS: I have reason to believe he was assassinated upon the initial boarding along with a great amount of the Command Staff. I am issuing orders now.
Dominus H0RT: Bless you might be TalOS for clearing the taint upon Onus Probandi, you know full well you are not in a position to order those who hold you through seniority![/green]In these moments, mere seconds in the ‘material realm’, the Acillians have already started to engage the Xenos. TalOS watched as they skillfully struck with precision and narrowly dodged a series of Plasma Based attacks against their persons. The fighting was hard, but they were winning thanks to percise positioning by TalOS and his Machine Spirits. Dominus CL3RK: Are you sure we should not regroup? If we take this to the letter it will mean our remaining forces will be forced to engage foes without overwhelming numbers! We must regroup!Dominus U1T: But what of the Bridge? If the Dominus Dux is alive at this moment his potential loss will be insurmountable!Dominus H0RT: We do not even know if he is alive!In the next few moments TalOS noted that the Acillians have all but won their fights. Sadly one of them was killed upon receiving a volley of foul sorceries. Such a thing TalOS had to let go and start issuing new orders. From there the Acillians would start advancing in groups of ten, led by the Decarii. Routes and plans were quickly mapped out and assigned to the greater scheme, however TalOS felt a small problems and errors were starting to form. Many of the Skitarii around the facility were not moving to TalOS’s battleplans. Enginseer J4CK: We are taking heavy fire here in the maintenance shafts! I need support sooner than whatever these plans ask for!Dominus U1T: My Apologies Enginseer, but we both know that the Dux Dominus comes first. This entire Crusade will be lost if what happened to us happened to others, and the majority of Dux Domini are dead!Dominus CL3RK: We are talking a mere 3.76% chance of him being alive, Dominus U1T!TalOS did the calculations, if he did not assume control of this situation there was a growing chance they would take too many casualties. While this conversation took only a minute, TalOS knew that a minute could win the War. >Assume direct control>TalOS is a Primarch, convince them diplomatically>Give them a taste of true power, a God Machine’s power. >Write inMy apologies this post is shorter. Tbh I wanted to make it longer but this moment needs a vote.
>>5069824>Give them a taste of true power, a God Machine’s power.
>>5069824>Give them a taste of true power, a God Machine’s power.Diplomacy takes time and assuming direct control will damage MC's political station. It's better to inspire them to work with MC as Machine God chosen but if even this doesn't work then MC need to destroy xenos only with Acillians and few magi help. The rest of magi must enter in queue for assassination. They're too stupid to let them live and ruin future operations.
>>5069824>>Give them a taste of true power, a God Machine’s power.
>>5069824>Give them a taste of true power, a God Machine’s power.Let the power flow from within with the power of our creator guiding it.
>>5069824 #>Give them a taste of true power, a God Machine’s power.We are on a ship in the warp, attacked by demon cultists, connected to a cellar field, and in a dire hour. Insane zealotry is both in character and will probably damage the demons’ shenanigans through sheer willpower.
>>5069821>Give them a taste of true power, a God Machine’s power.
>>5069824>Give them a taste of true power.>Fellow Domini, this squabbling is achieving nothing more than serving the enemy in their attempts to destroy our crusade. I am putting an end to this squabbling.
>>5070305+1
>>5070305Support
>>5070305>Supporting this
>>5070305Supporting the write-in
Gentlemen, may I dream of the future with you all?Every Legion has its quirk, its trait. The Iron Warriors are siegemasters unparalleled and logisticians to surpass the ultramarines, the Salamanders have their primarch and his proclivity to producing master crafted weapons. I wish to propose that our future legions. .. uniqueness be more than just Cybernetic Augmentations, which surely will still be common among the Iron Hands and Iron Warriors. What should set us apart is our love of energy weapons, the purest form of the motive force used upon the foe. Our Forge World should establish itself into the production of these weapons until rather than a rarity, they become a standard.Volkite armamentsThe Zepherus Meltagun with its longer range (we could perhaps develop an automated calibration system that takes minutes rather than hours)Maybe even reliable rapid fire plasma guns ala the Tau's method, doing 10,000 years before they crawled from the slimeAs for yourself, I hope we continue to upgrade and perfect our own Volkite Blaster until it is truly a signature weapon!Maybe even we can develop our own disintegrators like the priests of mars but just be careful to call them "Skorpius" instead of "Adrathic" so daddy doesn't confiscate them.
>>5069824Hey QM what was our original purpose? the path that we were supposed to follow right out of the pod?
>>5070554I feel like we were supposed to be the anti-chaos considering our psyker power is to shut down other psykers.
>>5070562It must surely be the will of the Machine God
>>5070562You think so? I have noticed that we have natural Psyker powers, so I guess that's a possibility. It would be funny if we were supposed to be the Naval Primarch, but the Machine God changed us.
>>5070554Your original purpose was to be the head tech jockie of the Imperium, since Emps at some point probably planned to back stab the Mechanicus. Lets just say his beliefs makes him oblivious to the fact that enough faith can in fact create Gods.>>5070562Actually you guys did this to yourselves. Thanks to cannibalizing the Psyker Xenos so thoroughly, all Primarchs in some way being psykers, and a little bit of help from a certain deity, you guys became essentially the antithesis of a psyker. Of course TalOS has the knowledge to cast spells, as a character he will never do so since he knows the existence of The Dark One, TzeentchI will say though I am tempted to make his Psyker tricks work like an improved Gellar Field. Maybe instead of learning Psyker bullshit from books and literal daemons like Magnus TalOS just bases his effects off Machine Spirits. These are just ideas though and desu I don't want TalOS to be slinging spells like a Thousand Sons, especially when he literally fought beings who do that exact thing.
>>5070543This is not a bad idea, not at all. Actual spoiler: Your sons currently with the Emperor already have their gimmick written down. It involves having fun with certain kinds of Imperial German weapons.
>>5070625Boo, 40k has enough Wehraboo shit.
>>5070630Shush
>>5070630I'm not talking Nazis. The Prussians were famous for it but really everyone used this weapon.
>>5070634Oh, howitzers.
>>5070639Artillery is the Iron Warrior's specialty. Though you probably have it after this one.
>>5070625I don't know much of prussian weaponry, so I'm going to guess precision rifles, artillery or the spiky helmet.
>>5070641Ah, a flammenwerfer! But I had thought that was the Salamander's specialty?
>>5070616This is wonderful because I've always loved the idea that a mechanicus primarch also had some blank or null properties. Maybe even one glorious day, we conveniently discover an Inertialess Drive STC that those perfidious Necrons were hoarding on one of their ships, and our flag ship becomes unreliant upon Navigators.Of course, we would never ever let this slip out publicly or else we have every Navigator Dynasty in the galaxy after our heads.
>>5070646So it has to be either laser needle guns for not jaegers right?Or zweihanders and headbutts
>>5070641Replied to the wrong post.
>>5070650Look, this thing is about to be filled with spam so I will tell ya. Gas, they love gassing their opponents before advancing and killing those still alive. However overall they love doing the most practical thing possible with little regard for Morals. So flame throwers are defiantly on the menu.
>>5070662Wow that's super lame. Who the heck wants to play a poison build? Such treachery is bad for a marine's soul, be more honorable.
>>5070668I mean I am more than open for suggestions. While I know it this idea is not set in stone. I just like thinking how the Marines would advance forward as all the enemies are slowly dying of an invisible gas, the only thing telling them the air changed was an Amber Sun.
>>5070674Gas is the weapon of cowards, and if the legion uses it then it is that much lamer. Working with other forces will be a hassle too, the Imperial Guard has enough on their plate without having to requisition masks (though the Krieg would be a good partner). And how will civilians under siege be liberated if they're all dead because the Marine Legion specced into a thing that causes such high collateral damage?If you go ahead with this, I hope TalOS gets a chance to reform the legion with his own ideas.
>>5070683Duh, of course you get to do that. Its literally one of the things Primarchs do on the normal.
If I gotta be honest, I did not think anyone would choose this. Instead, everyone did. >>5070561>>5070551>>5070443>>5070432>>5070402>>5070333>>5070305>>5070154>>5070127>>5070024>>5070003>>5069938>>5069876>>5069831
>>5070688Nah, its kinda badass. Also, spoiler please.
>>5070688Space Marines are more effective than gas. And who's talking about morals? I'm talking about the Space Marine legion not sucking when working with others. Even the Nazis didn't use gas because they couldn't fit masks on their horses.
>>5070692Deleted it for you boss. >>5070693 And who cares if they are more effective? Even gas kills them, Whatever they used on Vraks proved that.
>>5070693...[Spoiler]Respect everyone else.
>>5070692Huh I thought our legions speciality would be 1.) Mechanized or Tank assault2.) Cyber Warfarebesides the gas speciality would probably go to the death guard post Primarch reunion.
>>5070701These are your Sons before you meet them, the Primarch does a lot to change the legion. Especially a legion that will be 10 years old.
>>5070683Krieg only gets masks on nearly on 40k, because the planet only gets fucked when they rebel and the general nukes everything.>>5070692>>5070693>>5070695What did I miss?
>>5070706Oh, I got it now, anon deleted and than spoilered it.Ut's kind of obvious, guess I'm retarded.
>>5070698He told me to fuck off, get off your high horse.
>>5070706Spoiled it on QM's request.
>>5070674Dont listen to them QM. let Gas be the thing our sons are doing right now. We can either encourage it, leave it, or remove it completely when we meet and take control of our Legion.
>>5070716I agree.
>>5070662Damn that's sexy
How does WW1 Gas do in space?
>>5070733Just pump out enough of it and it will fill space up
>>5070735And if their opponents are vacuum-sealed or don't breathe?
>>5070736Specialty made gas that melts their suits but not yours.
>>5070737Lewd!
>>5070739I said they were practical with no morals, of course they wouldn't care for how lewd it gets.
>>5070737so, how far on the civilian casualties scale is our legion. From Salamaders to marine malevolent
>>5070668You obviously haven't seen the power of Phosphex.Even Guilliman, who hated the stuff, admitted in the end that it still played a key role in certain outcomes such as the need to deploy it on the planet of Tholas against an overwhelming orc horde that had the capability to wipe them all out.>>5070737I gather this means our sons employ a lot of Destroyer Companies!
How well do the brain matter as circuit board that are Machine Spirits fare when exposed to gas?
>>5070743I mean if they were let out on the populous I would give them a little something below a World Eaters Pre-CSM but Post-Angron. Though unlike them these fellows would weigh whether future compliance was worth the gas attacks. You can guess that answer they came up to most of the time. Normally the worlds were reclassified from Hive to Agri when they were released.
>>5070683Who says we will need to work with IG regiments?By every indication, we are going to be working more with Admech Regiments.Those dudes use Rad Weapons as standard weapons specifically knowing their servants and servitors are resistant to such effects. Gas will more than be capable of surviving by our fellow Skitarri and Servitor Admech allies
>>5070757Space Marines fight for all of mankind.
>>5070759But not in the same ways, as the Death Guard, War Hounds, and Night Lords show.Its entirely feasible we aid mankind by the spreading and establishment of new Forge Worlds
>>5070775They are all excommunicates.
>>5070776Not prior to the Heresy.And while they were loyal, their methods of warfare were sanctioned by the Emperor himself
>>5070759But we fight for the Machine God not the petty flesh sacks
Dominus U1T: Such a chance is worth it! His value correlated to that chance is above that!Dominus CL3RK: MORE VALUABLE THAN OUR LIVES!TalOS felt something close to a servo popping at that moment. These idiots were going to doom the entire ship to damnation if they continued like this. By the Machine God TalOS hoped this was not happening to the other ships, but he needed to pull things together right now! If they were not going to acknowledge TalOS on the merits of his plan before even processing it, then TalOS would simply need to show them his authority. In truth TalOS had no such thing in a de jure sense, but he had one authority that was De Facto. For those within the Titan Hangers, the sound of an engine being awakened came into their ears. Dominus U1T: Our lives are worth less than that of a Dux Dominus! Without their knowledge we will not even be able to take over the planet!Dominus CL3RK: The Crusade is null in void if weThe Noosphere grew silent for a moment as everyone within it felt something was off. The Noosphere was of course was made from a series of Machine Spirits, all of which allowed this communication to take place. However, as is the ability of Domini, the Tech Priests noticed a shift in the precense of the Machines. In the next one, they personally felt an extreme urge. This was something they had only experienced by a wayward Machine Spirit. A Spirit so hostile that many times they were slotted for either purification or elimination. Somehow, through the Noosphere network, they were feeling it in their souls.Dominus TalOS: Fellow Domini, this squabbling is achieving nothing more than serving the enemy in trying to destroy our crusade. By the will of the God Machine Particep Semper, I declare an end to this and assume the role of Dux Dominus!Surely his fellow Tech Priests were wanting to retaliate against TalOS, but they were all terrified by the sheer force of Particep Semper. TalOS, through a little work with the Machine Spirits, had interfaced the Tech Priests to the God Machine itself. At this moment they were all trying their best not to fall under the will of the God Machine, which in itself was admirable for how long they were resisting. TalOS however did not need fools who thought destruction was their only option after all.
With a thought TalOS disconnected them from Particep Semper’s ever simmering will. Dominus TalOS: Follow my orders to the letter and we will all make it out in one piece, all upon the Authority of an Avatar of the Machine God!Dominus CL3RK: I understand, I shall be advancing my Skitarii to your plans. Dominus U1T: Copied and filed. Praise the Machine God.And such they did. Without different processes and algorithms causing there to be problems with the attack, TalOS watched as they all moved near perfectly. First the group on the aft moved over and took out two strands of Xenos. The battle was happening with a near perfect precision and timing. Those on the Port side were also starting to engage the enemy, which would have been a foolish move if it was not just a cover for the Acillians to come up behind the Xenos. Just like many other places around the ship TalOS witnessed a near perfect destruction of the enemy forces. There was not a Xenos alive after each of these strike forces. The web that soon made up the ship was immense and perfect. After each attack by the Strike Forces TalOS was gaining enough data to estimate their ability and that of his own forces. The Machine Spirits that were within TalOS’s systems, finally being given a real challenge, began to adjust further to his way of thinking and began providing helpful suggestions that the Primarch needed. Or maybe it was TalOS finally getting use to the Machine Spirits. The Primarch did not really care as he continued his data collection and processing. The only problem came when the Primarch noticed a series of forces coming towards him. The force totaled roughly thirty, the same amount as the previous assassination force, which gave TalOS a little pause for the moment.
In those few seconds that TalOS was trying to process an stratagem against these Xenos they made contact with those who barricaded the Gellar Field. The number of Skitarii had risen from a mere eight to fifteen strong. This was a good number for the defence, exactly how TalOS had judged it. However that was when something of an anomaly happened. Taking over the eyes of a Skitarii TalOS noticed many of the Xenos were starting to change. No longer were they but simple Xenos but instead becoming close to demented mutations of flesh and blood. Creatures like this ran their way towards the Xenos and tried their best to murder the Skitarii and recieved a series of bullets for their attempt. Besides the obvious mutants the Xenos were now bringing, the Xenos had started to release more Psychic powers. Deep in TalOS’s mind he understood what they were doing, that the Xenos were using their powers in such a way that was proving more lethal to everyone involve. This was quickly proven by the exploding skulls of two other Psykers right when they casted several spells at once. TalOS should have expected this, he knew it but he did not calculate it! Were these Xenos so suicidal that they would give up their own lives just to murder him!That was a foolish question he realized, indeed it was worth their lives. They tried to do this exact thing before but TalOS was saved by a miracle of the Machine God. They would try again. Thus TalOS processed his personal options. First things first was just going out and fighting them. Even with the cover of what was a swarm of Servo-Skulls TalOS wondered if he could outright face the power of the Xenos. With maybe a few injuries, the Primarch could surely face them. The next of course TalOS could call upon his fellow forces, however this change in calculation would lead to the death of two Acillian and ten Skitarii in addition to his already calculated fatalities. Was that the price TalOS was willing to take? The next thing was not an idea from his head, but instead something he caught at the edge of his true vision. The Primarch turned to see a massive device that quaked with powers that he knew were an anathema to the Warp. Maybe the Gellar Field could be used against the Xenos…>Fight them yourself>Bring in reinforcements>Overclock the Gellar Field
>>5070799>Fight them yourself
>>5070799>Fight them yourselfThese are brave Xenos to come within Volkite range
>>5070799>Face them ourselves.>Rapidly compile all the knowledge and moves of our previous interactions with the xenos and begin to run prediction algorithms. Dispatch them more efficiently than before.We can relinquish control of the crusade after. But for now, we are in charge.
>>5070799>Overclock the Gellar FieldHave faith in the machine spirit's might and engage in the holy overclocking rituals
>>5070799 #>Overclock the Gellar FieldPrimarch says: “Cease your mutatey actions at once!”
>>5070799>>Overclock the Gellar Field
>>5070799>Overclock the Gellar Field
>Overclock the Gellar Field
>>5070787https://youtu.be/XRHzkqA2O9M
>>5070852This sounds good+1
I hope we will have peaceful moments where we get to tinker and create new inventions on Forge World Lucius.And they can't call it Tech Heresy, since we're a Tech Priest with the blessing of the Omnissiah
>>5071769Personally I want us to invent shiny things like automated factories or mining the core of uninhabitable moons and stuff and then use them to massively help the forge world grow
>>5071792I'm sure such things exist already, within reason of the Cult Mechanicus, but we could definitely be like Guilliman and focus on logistics. Imagine if we have our own 500 worlds to rival his!I've always liked the idea of trying to make people live as close to the high standards of living of the DAoT as possible without going full on tech-heresy.Humans on peaceful world will be provided for a set amount of their lifespans, given the means to live out fulfilling lives. Then, when they become old and elderly, they give themselves unto the servitor legions to further spread the goals of humanity as eternal workers or soldiers.Most of all we should make servitorism less. . .brutal if we can. Can we cut out the parts of the brain that feel fear and pain maybe? Or make servitors feel content with their lot?Then we'll be as close to the AI serviced society of the past as before.
>>5071853...and they shall (quite literally) know no fear.
>>5071908You know, space marines are still capable of feeling fear and terror. They feel it differently, perhaps, fearing things like failure, defeat, shame and humiliation. But still fear.What if we were to remove that sensation of fear from our marines? As well as pain. We'll be like the Iron Warriors only instead of getting depressed from grevious losses, we take pride in that we fulfill our purpose as tools in the service of Mankind and the Machine God.Kinda like how higher level techpriests are also able to turn on and off their emotions.
>>5071751You should probably greentext if you wanna cause the tie.
>>5071853>>5071908>>5071921I mean, you guys already had your chance to do this a while back between making the Acillian more Skitarii or human, you choose Human. Now because of that very decision there is a good chance that some of your men will choose to gain said augmetics, but first they must prove their battle effectiveness in the Crusade. Now you have mention of cutting out the thinking part of Servitors, that is exactly what Skitarii benefit from. They are constantly fed positive foci that gives them the impression that they are serving the Machine God at this current moment. Now if someone were to say standardize this process by making it easier to implement and create, well then it can be used in these ways.
>>5071940Shucks wish I had joined in earlier to at least vote on that.>Now if someone were to say standardize this process by making it easier to implement and create, well then it can be used in these ways.This would be great.We could have legions of servitors backing up our boys, all from the bodies of people who have lived long and fulfilling lives. Let the servitors work the forge worlds and factories, while humanity prospers from the fruits of machine labour, as is the true purpose between Man and Machine.Hopefully in the future we could even try to put it into test practice on a planet .
>>5071967I feel like it's quicker and more efficient to continue using vat borns for servitors.
>>5071981And less morally gray and expenaive too.
>>5071981This
>>5071981>>5071983>>5071984Vat Borns are good, but I imagine pound for pound each vat born is more expensive than a human body. Krieg basically has to devote its entire civilian populace and the graces of the Administratums resources to sustain their populace using Womb VitaeWe should keep using them, but having the elderly of good lived citizens from planets does:-Give meaning and purpose to their existence to the betterment of mankind without having to essentially give up the chance at a decent life by joining the IG-Means we can still supplement our vast Vat born numbers with readily available resources for even more troops
>>5072028they have trouble sustaining their population because 1.) they live on an irradiated hell hole.2.) a shit ton of their able-bodied men are in the death corps.3.) everyone who isn't involved in the death corps is instead producing equipment and supplies (or working in factories from basically childhood). I can tell you that the Factoriums don't follow OSHA regulations.I think you'll find that most people after living long and fulfilling lives don't want to be lobotomized and turned into cyborgs. oddly enough most probably just want to die a peaceful death. (also I can't help but feel that servitors made from elderly people are inferior to young or vat-born people)
>>5072028Womb Vitae is not being vatborn. Mist of the mechanicus sees it as abhorrent, and since most of the servitors are vatborn, than it means they are not the same method.Not only that, but using a body that is already old, frail and alreafy has a plethora of experiences means thatbit would require plenty of implants and care to make it equal to a vatborn already made to be physically strong.Also they definatly will get the procedure wrong every once in a while and doom the person to an eternity of councious suffering.The only advantage of real people over vatborn is that the servitors would have stronger souls, and therefore be more resistant to possession, but it wouldn't be that meaningful of a difference.
>>5070674I like your idea for our legion op. The use of gas weapons during that period of our history has always fascinated me with how efficiently deadly it can be
>>5072057To throw my hat into it, I think a little bit of both would be good and depending on how you tackle it. To my understanding, unless someone provides me a counter, is that Womb Vitae and Vatborn are synonyms. What is likely the abhorant part of Womb Vitea is that it is VERY EASILY gives way to making clones. Clones are horribly bad since the Universe (or Tzeentch) actively tries its damnest to kill them. What I would imagine is the ethical way, and how the Mechanicus likely makes their servitors, is that they harvest sperm and eggs, fertilizes the eggs, and then throws it into a vat. This still makes weaker offspring since the Child was born from a machine instead of a soul carrying being, but is the least likely to lead to what I will call KAC Syndrome (Kill All Clones). Grim Dark since you are literally strapping woman and men to a chair to harvest their reproductive organs, but also makes sense. Once can easily point to the Primarchs as evidence of this exact thing. All of them were vat grown, but none of them were just pure copies of the Emperor.
Sorry guys>>5070810>>5070817>>5070819>>5070850>>5070852>>5071000But they won. >>5070855>>5070865>>5070905>>5070946>>5071328>>5071400>>5071267Your daily reminder to Green Text, for if you don't it makes my time of breaking ties so much easier. I am also a little happy that I gave a choice that did not result in a unanimous agreement. If I wanted that I would have just written a book or published this on Fanfiction net.
>>5072097I'm about to change how a Gellar Field works against what the Wiki says, since using the brain of a psyker is dumb. Like someone pointed out if a Gellar Field just uses psykers why is there no mention of Psykers being exummed from it and then tossed out when they inevitably get fried by the MASSIVE energies of the systems. Hell, how did the DAoT Humans make Gellar Fields when there were no Psykers around to even speak of? I got a better idea, and its one that I think shall make a much better mystery.
>>5072111Some patterns of Gellar Fields use Psykers as their components?
>>5072113https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Gellar_FieldLiterally the base uses it, using the psyker's 'Dream' to create the bubble. I don't think a 'SLEEPING PSYKER' whose DREAM you are depending to be NORMAL is a good idea. I know sleeping is kinda the safest way to trasport Psykers in Warp Transit, but last I checked it was mainly because you have Sisters of Silence and Psi Suppressors all around them and wanted to make sure they didn't commit suicide thanks to all the Blanks around them.
>>5072097How could you attack us in such a manner QM? Warp Abucust? Or w.e. its called from rogue trader and something we can invent when?
>>5072117That shall be noted, however I cannot say it will be made soon. Tbh you guys are going to get something real big here once you start genuine expansion so I would not worry too much about that.
>>5072121 Oh neat, Local machine worshipper btfo's the need for pskyers using BIG BRAIN MATH.
>>5072111I read somewhere that DAoT humanity ships/gellar fields were giga computers runnings simulations of the world and throwing them around, and that the mathemathical certainty calmed the warp, and that with all the AI ban that wasn't really possible anymore.But I don't remember where. However, it is a good idea on how Talos could create something, fits a lot with Terry views on TempleOS and the RNG being how god speaks. Might be distasteful though>>5072091Pretty sure little bit of both is how it already works.I personally see the Vitae Womb as a supplement to Krieg's natural birth rate, like an implants and procedure that make the women have triplets and more, and make it easier to do caesarians. Pretty sure it was from someone's headcannon on a /tg/ thread though.
TalOS wanted to fight off the Xenos, but challenging them out in the open is something he could not risk right now. Right now, at this moment, TalOS was the Dux Dominus of this damn ship! If he was going to be lost, it was not going to be because of something stupid like being fried because he ran to the front lines. No, he had his answer. Making sure the network was now tethered to TalOS’s vox connections the Dominus abandoned the terminal he was standing at and rushed towards the Gellar Field. His eyes, which was gifted with the sight of perfect understanding, allowed the Primarch to truly understand the majesty that was the Gellar Field before him. TalOS was welcomed with the first part of its workings, the series of electrical strikes that seemed to agitate the very air itself. This was not without purpose though as the near relentless adjustments the Machine Spirit was doing was enormous. Such activities were not without reason and for every second TalOS stared deeper into its workings. The next thing that he noticed was the almost razor thin wires that were around it. At first TalOS thought it was Adamantine, but upon closer examination was something far more precious. Its structure was by far the most intrinsic and valuable thing that he had the honor to examine. Such a work he realized might be from the fable Dark Age of Technology he heard rumors of. He comprehended it though. The innate structure and how it guided the core of this machine to cover the entire ship in a complete field of Warp Dampening. However that was not the most ingenious part of this machine, no that belonged to the core. Just staring at it gave TalOS a headache for he could barely see its structure. The size of a pebble it was powerful enough to give the Primarch himself pause and pain. It was a small pebble of black stone. A stone the Primarch could not understand even with the gift of his eyes. Was this something that the Dark Age of Technology Humans created, no it was far too crude for that. Even if he could not see it or understand it the Primarch knew its potential. Being the one thing he could not understand, the Primarch wanted to figure out every single piece of information it could give him! And now was that moment, as he understood that this machine was an anchor to reality. Such a thing was an anathema to the Warp! And these creatures were but wielders of the foul warp! Using the purity of this Machine TalOS would purge the Xenos of what they valued most.
TalOS walked over to the device and began removing the numerous panels by hand. While the container the black stone was held in was a clear container the top and bottom were devoted to maintaining this system. While the center TalOS would not touch he instead tore into these parts and started creating connections. Upon his commands the spare Servo-Skulls came in and started to help, each under total control by TalOS. This was not the best station for TalOS, but he had not ascended to the more perfected forms of Mechanical Integration that his fellow Tech Priest had. No instead he simply have around six mechanrites that all placed themselves in the numerous positions around the system. Next TalOS reached down with his good hand and started manipulating wires. What TalOS was about to accomplish was likely some form of Tech Heresy, and he will probably answer for it soon. However as his hand moved like silk and mind processed thousands of possible structures that Primarch could not care about. If he succeeded though…Within fifteen seconds TalOS had finished the rewiring and had to start the next part of the process. Hooked up directly into the ancient Machine Spirit TalOS kneeled as he began to subvert its processes. +Upon my heart I speak, oh Great Machine Spirit.+ He began as he felt the Machine Spirit’s presence looking upon his person, +This is my time of need, a dark hour that we must overcome. Thus I ask you to listen to my suggestions.+ The old Machine Spirit studied and analysed him. Unlike the other Machine Spirits that TalOS interacted with, this one was wise and mighty old. It was only the sweetness of his voice that gained its attention. It does not bow to him though. +Pulse the data and ground the power, let it flow through both you and me. Together, we shall make the ions flare and the mechanisms grow louder. Together we fight against the will of false gods in the name of the true god. You know him more than I do, oh ancient machine, but you know this is what he wants.+ This was not a prayer, no TalOS was talking with the Machine Spirit. Similar in effect it was like a man talking to his cat or dog. However even these non-sentient creatures understood some words and Machines were no different. And TalOS was indeed right in that it knew the Machine God intimately. So it allowed him control if just for a time. And then the ball of black stone began to glow a subtle, nearly impossible green.
The first thing that everyone upon the ship noticed was an immediate headache going through their heads. Some did not care much about it like the Tech Priests and the Skitarii for their brains simply elected to ignore this. The Acillians had it too but their blood and training made them ignore it all the same. The Xenos on the other hand did not have the same experience. From that instant all of them lost some form of sense they always had. Like draining all the oxygen from the room they were all suffering from the lack of what they were always used to. Many who have fallen to foul mutation simply fell on the ground as the unreality that was sustaining them was separated from them. They were the lucky ones who died in an instant. Those who were still alive felt their bodies convulse and their minds were shattering. It was impossible for these Xenos to even defend themselves as Acillian and Skitarii simply shot them where they were lying. It was a massacre, one that TalOS was oblivious to. No, instead the Primarch was being blasted with what was something comparable to both a black hole and sun. Estimates would say that this meant a White Dwarf Star. Whatever it was it tore into the being that was a Primarch and caused him to experience something he had yet to feel. The true weight of reality crashing down upon him! The Primarch however stood there and continued his work. Like a Titan his senses were both his body as well as the Gellar Field’s. He fed the Gellar Field an enmorious series of equations and processes that were either forgotten by man long ago or were never thought of. Even after all this pain the Primarch processed these algorithms and fed them into the Machine Spirit to act upon the black stone pebble. After the longest minute of TalOS’s life he felt a push against his consciousness. It was the Machine Spirit, a satisfied Machine Spirit pushing him away and severing its connection with TalOS. It did not do so selfishly but instead knowing that what they were doing was finished. TalOS then returned back to himself. No longer part of a vastly more powerful Machine Spirit the Tech Priest had to quickly endure all the trauma he had inflicted upon himself. Much of his surface level skin was torched black and his eyes did not work the way they should. This was all temporary though for TalOS reengaged the network of Onus Probandi and noticed that all his forces were quickly making their way towards the bridge. As he noticed this, he also knew he had learned something. In the back of his mind TalOS realized how the Gellar Field Worked.>Go up and join them, a leader must lead his men into battle after all!>Best to, uh, cover up this Tech Heresy here. >Simply go back to what he was doing, maybe try and make sense of what the fuck he just did.
I probably went overboard, but damn was this all fun to write. Anyways, enjoy getting a fraction of impossible knowledge.
>>5072147>Simply go back to what he was doing, maybe try and make sense of what the fuck he just did.Alright TalOS, Go sit in the corner and think hard about unreality for a few minutes.
>>5072147>Simply go back to what he was doing, maybe try and make sense of what the fuck he just did.Not actually tech heresy, we are just learning why a perfectly valid lost tech works, not making new shit. Copying is perfectly valid under the machine God's creed.
>>5072147>Simply go back to what he was doing, maybe try and make sense of what the fuck he just did.
>>5072091>Grim Dark since you are literally strapping woman and men to a chair to harvest their reproductive organsAlternatively, can we not do that and just like. . .rely on donations you knowGotta be some way we can integrate the growing populace of our support worlds to sustain increased vatborn numbers. The servitor bodies aren't going to grow themseles! And if the Imperium could just clone their way through numbers they would have done so ages agoWhat's your take on our options for turningResources of Planet and/or People of Planet -> More Servitors OP?If we have peaceful or dare I say paradise worlds, it'd be nice that they can contribute to the betterment of mankind rather than just being effectively drains or simply IG fodder. A way to provide for the servitors that will be providing for their lifestyles>>5072147>Simply go back to what he was doing, maybe try and make sense of what the fuck he just did.
>>5072147 #>Simply go back to what he was doing, maybe try and make sense of what the fuck he just did.Explaining what we did and having the approval of the gellar field’s machine spirit will probably get us out of trouble better than covering it up.
>>5072168I think idea is actually pretty solid and will probably be a good way to get servitors. As for the paradise world idea it will be something to consider, but if 30k is anything its practical. I say farming a population for Servitors is slow to stay but desu, you can have a harvest of like, 50 million servitors in a single year which is insane. I would say the populace should live like a better conditioned Agri-World so that it promotes high amounts of children who all live long enough to become Servitors. As for the self harvesting bit, well isn't that what Ark Mechanicus pattern ships are for? They literally are a flying factory that is suppose to turn a planet into a Forge World.
>>5072172Is that what Ark Mechanicus ships are for now Seeding new Forge worlds? Man 30k lore is getting weird.
>>5072173Yup, at one point Mars decided to say fuck it and sent dozens of these ships out into the the cosmos during the Age of Strife. Its the reason a lot of the Forges are worshippers of the Machine God while not currently having contact with Mars.
>>5072173Also, its literally in the name. Ark Mechanicus.
>>5072172Yeah here's my take rough take on a plan for it, something for TalOS to consider or to improve:For the General Populace>We provide:-A peaceful agrarian/non-forge world with decent standard of living for citizens-A guarantee of something like 40-80 years (age can be decided later) of good living conditions >In exchange-At the end of those 40-80 years, you will become a servitor. This effectively is considered as a limited lifespan by design, and superior to dying of old age or disease.-We guarantee that being a servitor is [Painless/Emotionally Contentment] + the knowledge that you will continue to serve the Machine God and provide for the future generations of childrenOf course:-Nobles and Rich People get to pay their way out, as always-Those of superior intellect, skill, or ability can get exempted too so that they can fulfill higher level rolls in the admech, as always-Citizens can still evoke the right of conscription to go fight in the IG (with the understanding that they are going to die anyway) or sign up for the lesser Skitarii. We will even provide augments!-Citizens can choose not to get servitored, but will live out the rest of their days aging and frail while expected to work on the forgeworld to the endNow, given the choice between joining the glorious IG or being servitored, why would anyone want to be servitored?Ancestor Perks:-Having any parent or immediate relative serving as a servitor will guarantee you and your children the right to live on said peaceful world and the perks thereof. This will encourage families to have at least one person be servitor at any given time, or else living in the forge worlds and all the cramped conditions therof.
>>5072115Retarded cannon became cannon? I don't recall. Would have made more sense to put Blanks in there.
>>5072215>-Nobles and Rich People get to pay their way out, as alwaysMake them Imperial Knights.
Psykers being part of G. F. Machinery? Sounds as dumb as making use of windmills to load ship ammo.As for the servitors, dead bodies work as well and are cheaper.
>>5072147>Best to, uh, cover up this Tech Heresy here.If he think what he did needs to be hidden, then it must. About what he did he can think later because he has identical memory
>>5072147>Go up and join them, a leader must lead his men into battle after all!So gellar field uses black stone/noctolith? It better not have any neceon tech in there.
>We shouldn't use bodies of the elderly because they would be ineffectiveGuys I just realized. . .that's normie mortal Tech Priest talk.You know who we are?We're the motherfucking TECHPRIEST PRIMARCH. We're the next best thing since STCs.If anyone can make it so that the elderly can become great servitors, its us. Besides, we don't even really need their bodies. Just their brain, to avoid tech heresy of making AI. And uh, we don't even need to make it that genuine of an effort either we can have just the brain be there almost practically for show with most of the other functioning stuff being of programming.Really what we can do is just make the Thallax Cyborgs not be so horrific to strap your skull into.We can have actual honest to go robots with a brain in it to say it isn't a robot.
>>5072406But wouldn't a brain that is already full of experiences of an entire life, and probably older too, be less efficient than a brand new one?I'm ok using the old and the dying as a supplement, just like it already is, but this whole operation seems way more costly and less efficient than what already exists.Anyway, we have a lot on our hands after the war, there is the possibilty on working with cyborg implants, more gene editing, better teleportation to use particep semper as a vanguard or gellar field generator studies. Depending on where we put the focus, servirors upgrades might come as a side effect.
>>5072561Unless the plan is to ensure a better quality of life to imperial citizens while still getting extra servitor, in which case it could work. But it shouldn't be the main source for than.
>Go up and join them, a leader must lead his men into battle after all!
>>5072561The brain isn't even that important. Whether its a good brain or an old and dinky brain, the majority of the processing power will come from the cybernetics and the electronic components. It basically only exists as proof against tech heresy by making the whole thing 5% brain instead of 0% brain and fully computerized since fully fledged bots aren't allowed. Really the only real issue would be longevity and the need to replace it.It's basically how Cawl and Cawl Secundus pretend to not essentially be AIs by having the mask of flesh (even Guilliman suspects the various heads in jars he sees connected to Cawl Secundus are just for show and there's a good chance he's just a full blown AI).Essentially what I want to achieve are Forge Worlds fully staffed by willing servitors, rather than humans who are ground through them painfully like cogs in a machine. Servitors can appreciate being those cogs and ground down and last far longer in a way that humans never could. Mass scale servitorism can achieve that, while humans live on farmworlds and the like. If we can avoid having to get the brains of other humans and rely purely on vatborn, by all means go for it.Even supposing the issue of old brains, hell, we're the Techpriest Primarch. If we're as good at the arts of Magus Biologis as we are at any field of science, that likely won't even pose an issue.However we achieve it, basically I'd like our mark to be that we truly fulfilled the duty of the Machine: Service to Mankind. "For this sums up the Lore and the Logic: 'Technology is the application of knowledge to the betterment of mankind'."
>>5072147>Simply go back to what he was doing, maybe try and make sense of what the fuck he just didThough I know this is risky to not cover up, I don't think we can really do so considering everyone noticed that something happened. Also making sure we fix up the gellar field generator after what we did is probably important and we are the operational commander we don't need to lead from the front when we have the command network Actually QM what would covering it up entail?
>Much of his surface level skin was torched black and his eyes did not work the way they shouldYet more evidence of the weakness of flesh
>>5072676So you want to make sure that machines with barely a bit of machine spirits or man in them operate large forge worlds alone, while humanity lives in leasure in agri-worlds? That feels like it's begging for man of iron 2: eletric boogaloo, since you know, it was what humanity was doing at the time.Cawl is a barely heretek, and is not a model to be followed. You got to remember that the taboos exist for a reason, our refusal to study or use the xeno's tech, and adherence to ritual is what helped turn away Tzeentch's temptations temptaions for example.This new heresy we commited is not something we should be proud of and keep repeating, unless we want to have a dark mechanicus primarch of course. Playing as a corrupted one would separate it from the other 2 quests.
>>5072719Well they would obviously be controlled and observed by Tech Priests, like Kastellans they wouldn't be much capable of independent thought or action without direction. The whole servitorism is exactly how the Imperium gets away with robots without Men of Iron risks.I only propose it on such a larger scale as to relieve Forge Worlds of the need for any human workers toiling under supervision of Techpriests.And in any case, even were we so arrogant and ambitious, we're hardly alone in that regard. Lest we forget Magnus or Lorgar.Still, I do not believe that "Forge Worlds should be manned primarily by Servitors and Tech Priests in such a way they need little to no human labour" isn't an extremely radical idea. Various Ark Mechanicus and Space Marine vessels are known to have little to no human serf interaction and have many automated features not available to the standard IG ships such as working Macrocannon autoloaders that don't need thousands of people with ropes to haul them into place.
>>5072719>Cawl is a barely heretek, and is not a model to be followed.Also that is what the Admech would say butRemember, OOC, Cawl is alongside Guilliman one of the saviors of the Imperium and the creator of the Primaris Marines as well as other innovations that Guilliman and the Custodes themselves have stepped in to say "We declare that Innovation is no longer heresy" type deal. So it is all relativeIn any case we aren't reintroducing AI or anything so radical imo. Just improving the quality and methodology of implementing of servitors which is an accepted technology. I doubt anyone would qualm against us taking out the bits that feel pain or fear and just shuffling the human element out of forge worlds to replace them with more servitors. That would assuredly create more efficiencies as servitors need no sleep, minimal air or nutrients, and don't have the issues of rebellion or dissention that humans do when grinding themselves to the literal bone in the manufactorums
>>5072733Oh, it's definatly a good idea, but it has to be held back.The ships are that, ships, not planets, this level of automation would require quite a lot of interconnectivity between different planets, and the nature of the warp fucks things up quite a lot.Also, don't use two corrupted primarchs to defend being arrogant in tech-heresy, that sounds counter-intuitive.How about just try to bring humanity to a level of civilized worlds, without any hive worlds because those are retarded? Than just have some forge worlds and agri-knights worlds. It should give enough self sulficiency to the imperium overall without a drop in productivity, have enough that servitors can be volunteers (except the agri-knights, serfs get a duty), a increase in an quality of life.>>5072737I said you wanted to bring back AI because said to reduce the brain used to near nothing, and it's there just for show. If you backpadle that than of course the counter-argument falls apart.Just take things easy, one step at a time, and no hubris saying that we are going to do the impossible through bad means, because while we ourselves can probably gaet away with it, we can't be everywhere.We get rid of the defenses against corruptions, and people are going to start slliping in when we aren't looking at them.Also the new lore is shit and author fiated, so OOC I still hate Cawl
>>5072745I just think that it's not at all unwarranted to dream of better and to try to do the difficult things.Guilliman was able to create planets with manufactorums on every one of his 500 worlds which were able to achieve an equillibrium and avoid radical climate change and devastation so prevalent elsewhere in the Imperium. He could enact the change he so desired by application of willpower and the resources he had at hand.If we can do that with just a handful of planets when we lay our hands on them, I will be satisfied. Forge Worlds for Techpriests and Servitors. Civilized worlds for men. Each contributing something valuable to the other without resulting in the detriment of either populace. As for the "Backpedaling" thing that's fair but the Imperium itself is notoriously hypocritical and two faced even in setting and in character. Russ is anti-psyker, but his rune priests are "totally not psykers guys". They are able to achieve the end goals, even if the means are contradictory.Like I said, what I want to do if we ever get to a phase where we can control several planets is to attempt it on the small scale and then go bigger. Just like how Guilliman did it. And by golly if he is the logistic primarch, imagine how much better we can be if we are the Techpriest Primarch and have this technology and calculative power at our side. Even he was able to factor in the difficulties of warp travel.
>>5072745But basically, while all these concerns and such are 100% valid, dare I say even accurate, I just want to lean into the fact that: Hey, we're a primarch. Going against the grain to achieve success is our modus operandi.Primarchs are there to achieve the impossible, to make the difficult seem easy, to do the things that any other human, even as gifted as a space marine or an archmagos, would find impossible.Guilliman created 500 worlds at peace with as minimal grim-darkness as possible in a galaxy full or grim darkFulgrim conquered a single planet with only 7 space marines, and two mortalsMagnus stopped an entire starship from crushing him and an entire city to death by sheer willpowerSo many impossible feats were done by the primarchs. To make a peaceful forge world/civilized world existence that minimizes human misery and maximizes output in a way that glorifies the Machine God and our Father is something I think our guy can tackle. Maybe even in a way that surprises all of us.
>>5072746Like I said anon, it's a good idea, and a good goal, it just have to hold it back a bit, and do things one step at a time.I think I said this before, we should work on what we develop on after the war, if we go for biology and cyber we can try to improve servitor, if we study teleportation or gellar field, we can try to set up specialized worlds, if we try everything at once it will become a mess.Thing is, we should never go for completly brainless servitors, not because of hypocrisy, but because that would not end well, probably either possession or rebellion, or both in the worst case scenario.>>5072748Oh yeah, we doing the impossible is possible, what I'm worried is the normal humans that have to deal with what we leave behind.We resisting chaos even after having our faith shaken because we start doing a bit of tech heresy? Totally possible. Making sure that the pressudure to servitorized is painless and not an eternual torture? Child's play. The people that we are going to be responsible for it? Now that's another history.So it would be better to make sure our followers are more tradionalist, and that the servitornprocusure is not extremely complex and revolutionary, to make sure it happens correctly, even thoufh it would be less efficient.At least that's what I think it would be the better option.
>>5072756And I manage to mangle the word procedure twice. Nice.
>>5072147I'll change from>>5072680To >Best to, uh, cover up this Tech Heresy here.Hopefully my IP is still the same
>>5072756Mhm.Although, "what will humans do when we're gone" was actually tackled with, and rather well, by Guilliman too.Guilliman introduced the protocol for his death during the battle of Tholas, much to his Space Marines dismay, but he told them he is more than his body or his life. "Look around me" he said, pointing to his books, his words, his teachings "this is me." He distilled his very essence into his legion, and it lived on beyond him. And the 500 worlds lived on for 10,000 years even beyond his death, and while not the same glory as they were in the great Crusade, still outshone the rest of the Imperium as it did before in terms of quality.But uh, otherwise yes small things at a time. We have to focus on the immediate tasks at hand.
>>5072760>>5072767Alright, I love all this but I think you guys have written enough. I'mma mark this topic down in my notes and the arguments, then when the time comes you guys can choose from those choices.
>>5072868What a shame, I was gaving fun discussing, having a civiled argument in 4chan is rare, specially these days.But I do agree we have been hogging the quest too much, so I will stop.
>>5072868Apologies QM. Although, I wouldn't be surprised if our boy is more than capable of having these arguments in his multitasking enhanced brain even while fighting warp fiends and contemplating the effects of the empyrean
>>5072874Indeed, TalOS is capable of a lot of things because he is a Primarch. I will say if you guys can plan it out fairly competently it can probably be done. I will only make hard stops when its approaching War in Heaven levels of shenanigans and similar.
>>5072879I will however say this warning, whatever you create is not immune to 30k and 40k bullshit.
TalOS is gonna sit in the corner for a bit>>5072152>>5072155>>5072158>>5072169>>5072449>>5072168Go join them!!>>5072398>>5072591Cover that heresy up!>>5072382>>5072766Alright, the future shall be interesting.
It was a little difficult to move, TalOS realized as he felt his mind continue to snap right back in place. That was a really good description, snapping back into place. For that minute of overclocking the Gellar Field TalOS’s brain was snapped out of its socket, used as a cogitator processor, and then snapped back into his body after the event was finished. Yup, that is what happened, and damn did it make walking around hard. Still this was in relation to TalOS’s body, which he was realizing was damaged greatly by the action he commited. His mind was working fine, maybe even a little faster. Organs and processes that TalOS previously had were currently shut down allowing his mind to focus on the more important things in life. Yup. And that more important thing was making sure every single Machine God damn Xenos was dead!With that thought TalOS made his way towards the nearby terminal. With a little bit of shakiness TalOS inserted his mechanrite and started to once more connect with the internal systems of Onus Probandi. A few seconds passed and he was once more in the same position that he was just before the Plastoids attempted to breach his barrier. Reviewing the records; the Overclocking event not only affected those who were near the Gellar Field, but the entire ship. Such an event had caused what was to be a grueling fight into a slaughter of the Plastoids. If it was reported correctly it seems that TalOS’s theory on Psykers needed some help for the attack not only stopped those casting spells but did something to incapacitate them. If such a thing is true then TalOS had just found the greatest weapon against the Plastoids. An event that TalOS would address as Psi Suppression for the current moment, Xenos Psykers and their psi sensitive fellows must have had their minds attacked directly. Or maybe it's better to say TalOS had severed something that made their mind function at normal capacity, making any drastic change a terminal event? TalOS was by all things intrigued by these facts. And the aftermath of his actions were still striking at the enemy lines. TalOS watched from the nearby vision ports as the Acillians and Skitarii pierced the bridge with relative ease and started a full scale slaughter of the enemy ranks! Even the most decorated of the Plastoids, the Kassidus, was laid low as it stood there in a near incoherent stupor. Overall, 68% of Skitarii survived and 2 Acillian died in the attack. However only 36% of Tech Priests survived the onslaught as the enemy’s mission was clearly assassination. The Dux Dominus was found incinerated by the Plastoids on the bridge.
Feeling happy of his accomplishment TalOS relaxed himself. His fleshy body was far more weakened by the attack that previously anticipated. Numerous nerves were shot and his flesh was singed. Even with his immense vitality and personal knowledge of his body it would take something of two weeks to recover. This fact did not stop the Primarch from operating Particep Semper, but it prevented the Dominus from joining his sons on the initial teleportation planetside. As he analysid his own wounds five Acillians quickly came barreling through the room. One of them bolted as he yelled towards his brothers, +Get me a carrier for our Father, now!+The other quickly got a pallet servitor and placed TalOS on top of it. However, just as they were doing that, numerous Tech Priests came into the room looking at the Gellar Field that was clearly tampered with. The Acillians were prepared to adhere to their father until TalOS shot towards them commands to stand down. +What in the manner of technocratic heresy is this!+ Declared one that TalOS quickly identified as Dominus CL3RK. One of them, quickly identified as Enginseer J4CK studied the system before jacking himself into the Gellar Field, +System is performing ten percent more efficiently with several new strings. Hardware was edited by a Tech Priest while the wetware… I am being denied access.+ +Denied! Was the Machine Spirit infected by whatever code attacked Onus Probandi!?+ +No, the Machine Spirit is simply resisting my interfacing with it. It does not recognize my attempts to interface with it as a possible user, though I had cleared with the Head Enginseer these permissions before we left Lucius. This prevents me from accessing the Command Logs.+ In these moments several more Tech Priests came crashing into the room. They were all astonished by the state TalOS was in, but even more so the information about the Gellar Field being passed through the Noosphere network. Dominus CL3RK turned from the grand machine and faced TalOS, +Can you explain what happened here, Acting Dux Dominus TalOS.+
TalOS slowly sat himself up upon being called upon, his flesh still fried from the manipulation, +I have modified the Gellar Field to Overclock, taking in a series of its processes and modifying via the knowledge granted by the Machine God.+ +And what was the result?+ This time Enginseer J4CK turned towards TalOS with a firmness and curiosity, +Was what happened here what turned the tides of our battle?+ TalOS gave them a firm nod while quickly sending them all a makeshift package of data, +Here is the evidence of cause and effect. Further studies I will request here and now, but I believe the Psi Suppression effect speaks for itself.+ At that moment numerous Tech Priests started to analyze the data given, which also gave TalOS a moment to study all of those present. There was the subtle feeling of terror, not anger, being exhibited by the faintest of actions by the Priests. What TalOS did to them earlier, interfacing the majority here with Particep Semper, was still shaking them to their very souls. +Information affirms the claim.+ Declared the voice of Dominus D3X as he navigated himself to the front of the crowd, +This action has shown us that Dominus TalOS’s actions saved the fleet. But not just this one, but all of them.+ Quickly there were murmurs and talks upon the sphere, numerous chat rooms that all the present and those not present were in. TalOS however was denied access to all of them, but he knew for certain they knew every word that Dominus D3X said was true. +While the actions of TalOS are noted, the heresy committed here is still that!+ Declared the Dominus, +He has perverted the sacred Machine, a Gellar Field, to the point where it could have collapsed and killed us all! And there is no sanctioned ritual here, and if one has broken from Ritual they have Broken from Faith!+That was a damning declaration. A very damning one. While it has not been put forth, these declarations were grounds for Excommunication. Excommunication of a Dominus was hard, but TalOS was among peers and thus they had a lot more power. Also the fact was that at this point, there was no one to stop them. Well, there was the Acillian, but TalOS did not feel ordering a massacre of the Tech Priests was the smartest move.>Declare at this moment TalOS is a chosen of the Machine God, and it can be proven!>Give them the knowledge about the Gellar Field, that should be enough to get them off him. >Make them realize they are only alive because TalOS did all of this. ALL OF IT. >Point out that TalOS still asked the machine. >Write in
>>5073025>Point out that TalOS still asked the machine.We probably need a good write in combining a few important parts to work things out.
>>5073025>Point out that TalOS still asked the machine.
>>5073025>Declare at this moment TalOS is a chosen of the Machine God, and it can be proven!it's Primarch Charisma time.Lorgar did itGuilliman and Dorn did itNow it's our turn
>>5073047We should also note that this is a similar situation to Particep Semper, we performed the rituals that we did knew of, than proceded ti comune with the machine, and asked for their assistance in the name of the Machine God, and just like the god machine, the machine spirit answered, and brought salvation to Lucius and it's faithful.
>>5073025>Point out that TalOS still asked the machine.>Give them the knowledge about the Gellar Field, that should be enough to get them off him. (Just the basics for everyone and the full details to the superiors)
>>5073069I'm going to bed, but if I don't attempt to write-in this now it's going to bother me. Rewrite this mess into something coherent if nescessary.>There was no ritual broken Domini, but I do see a broken faith, and it does not come from me. For in that moment, I did perform the rites of maintenece, and proceded to commune with the blessed machine spirit of the Gellar Field, and asked for it to deliver upon us salvation in the name of the Machine God. And it answered my prayers, and guided my work, to preserve the faithful.>For this is not too disimilar to what happened with Particep Semper and me, on the day we forged our compact. I performed the little rites that I knew, and communed with it's machine spirit, and it answered. All that it asked was for me to do the impossible, which I achieved, and led to the reawakining of the god machine.>When I consumed the flesh of the dead xenos, I fell back to meditations upon the laws of our faith, for there was no ritual for such a ceremony. And it was them that shielded my mind and alloed me to obtain the information.>Is it so hard to believe that the Machine God has blessed our forge world, to stand not only against these foul xenos, but their mockery of a deity, and immaterium masters? To trust in the most fundamental laws and rites? To believe in the rites of the machine spirits themselves, the most pure form of the Motive Force?
>>5073025>There was no ritual broken Domini, but I do see a broken faith, and it does not come from me. For in that moment, I did perform the rites of maintenece, and proceded to commune with the blessed machine spirit of the Gellar Field, and asked for it to deliver upon us salvation in the name of the Machine God. And it answered my prayers, and guided my work, to preserve the faithful.>For this is not too disimilar to what happened with Particep Semper and me, on the day we forged our compact. I performed the little rites that I knew, and communed with it's machine spirit, and it answered. All that it asked was for me to do the impossible, which I achieved, and led to the reawakining of the god machine.>When I consumed the flesh of the dead xenos, I fell back to meditations upon the laws of our faith, for there was no ritual for such a ceremony. And it was them that shielded my mind and alloed me to obtain the information.>Is it so hard to believe that the Machine God has blessed our forge world, to stand not only against these foul xenos, but their mockery of a deity, and immaterium masters? To trust in the most fundamental laws and rites? To believe in the rites of the machine spirits themselves, the most pure form of the Motive Force?Precisely to the point
>>5073111Look you guys can use this add on if you want later. If I gotta be honest this explanation does not hit the mark to me and does not actually explain why what you did is not illegal. Your Thesis, that faith was broken probably by the Domini, was not mentioned even though I am pretty sure you wanted to. At least that way your attackers are discredited. I'm saying this now so I don't have half the thread saying they want this to happen, even though it does not click in my head. Explain it to me if I am missing something. >Instead of bickering I relied on the Machine God for our Salvation and he granted it! Can you all say the same!?
>>5073025>Point out that TalOS still asked the machine.>Declare at this moment TalOS is a chosen of the Machine God, and it can be proven!>when asked how give them the knowledge about the Gellar Field
>>5072719Cawl is a snowflake SI perhaps. Also, Men of Iron happened either due human arrogance, chaos fuckery, or Eldar sabotaging the programming, it's not clear, although I bet for the last two. Humanity was kinda like Star Trek's own before the Fall.Lastly, AMechs are not as extremists during 30k, for good and bad. Even in WH40k there's innovations that are accepted if you have the right contacts. Or "find" a totes legit STC.>Declare at this moment TalOS is a chosen of the Machine God, and it can be proven!Time to take charge, as a proper Primarch would!
>>5073025 #>Point out that TalOS still asked the machine.>Declare at this moment TalOS is a chosen of the Machine God, and it can be proven!>when asked how give them the knowledge about the Gellar FieldWe are not crazy! They are crazy!
>>5073233Ok, let me try to explain.1- Before doing the overloading we did perform a ritual or relied on the teachings, so our action was of faith, not desperation.2 - There was no ritual for what we did, but when we communed with the machine spirit, it guided our work. Therefore it was a ritual given to us by the Motive Force itself.3 - it is not the first time we perform an action that's not within the rituals, being the Particep Semper and the consumption, and both of them were done through basic rituals and faith, helped save Lucius, and were approved by the Fabricator General.4 - Therefore, by not accepting what we did as a faithful ritual, they are breaking with faith, even though they have not broken the ritual.Cutting the attack on them is possible though, I did write it in a sleepy haze.
>>5073098>>5073331supporting this as well
So after a little bit of reading I thought I’d throw my 2 cents into the mix.Tech heresy and the associated hereteks are based on a few fundamental things; the pursuit of all knowledge regardless of costs and without regard to strictures; which given our action was not based on the acquisition of knowledge (I.e. we didn’t mess with the gellar field with the express purpose to learn more about it, even if the end result is that we were gifted with knowledge) and that we followed ritual throughout I don’t think this applies to what we did. Secondly is that tech heresy and hereteks focus on manipulation of the warp/immaterium, hence it could be argued that the gellar field doesn’t fall into this category at all as rather than seeking to manipulate the warp/immaterium its purpose is to deny it outright (and by denying it it is thus able to project a bubble of real space), for the purpose of safer travel; if we committed tech heresy by boosting the field anytime the field is activated could also be considered an act of tech heresy using the same logic, as by activating the field the warp is “manipulated” however given the wide spread usage of the fields this clearly isn’t the case thus a precedent is set in our favourOf the various types of tech heresy what we did would be closest to either malifica or failure to renounce the empyric device, both of which are similar (the pursuit of technology to manipulate the warp/immaterium), however this is more commonly associated with the manipulation of the warp to fuse machine and daemon or bind daemons, which clearly isn’t what we did and as I said above it could be argued gellar fields don’t manipulate the warpEven the lesser tech heresy of misuse of technology can’t be argued as that applies to the application/adaptation of technology for purposes that it wasn’t intended for, the gellar field is intended to deny the warp and that is what we did with it, the side effects of the warp being denied was that the xenos got lobotomised
>>5073331supportignore >>5073257
>>5073025>Point out we asked the machineRight, I'll put my own spin on this. But the basic points are like the others.>Fellow Domini, from my communion with the machines, they had favoured me with their knowledge. Pleading for salvation had rewarded me with the knowledge and ability to enact the changes to the geller field, a revelation handed down through the motive force. Some of you may doubt this, may doubt me, and I am glad that you hold tightly to the faith even when the potential that it had been broken had saved us. Not blinded by the seeming benefits of faithlessness.>But I tell you, and I have shown you, as I have once before that the machine god has blessed both myself and forge world lucius in his scorn of the Alien. I entreated the god machine and by his grace, Partis Sempter walks once more through nothing but faith and revelation. I entreated the machine God's laws and again they shielded me from the xenos and delivered us the lore with which to crush them. Now I have entreated the machine god a third time, and a third time has revelation and faith been rewarded with a weapon and knowledge to protect this fleet. Tell me now, my fellow Domini, do you believe in your truest sense of reason and faith, that the Machines would favour me so if I had broken with faith? If my acts were heresy and not revelation, would they refuse your entrance? Would partis sempter still walk? Would I not work to dishonour my world, my station, my parentage and my god by concealing my act like some criminal rather than lay bare the fruits of this glorious communion? You know I had the time and ability to do so.>So I ask you, my peers and fellows. With all this laid before you, have you any reasonable doubt for my faith and any grounds for accusations of heresy that do not also point to divine inspiration?"Hammer home that we are doing this out of divine relevation, the machines love us so they told us to do it, this is normal for us, and moreover we are saving this damn fleet.
>>5073025> Point out that TaOS still asked the mission.He literally got permission to Fuck Around and Find Out.> Give them the knowledge about the Gellar Field, whilst simultaneously declaring that they'd be dead if he hadn't acted.Seriously, these rusted idiots are putting more effort into besmirching TalOS than they did the defences.> Leave them to bitch among themselves; you must see to your sons.It was only two lost, but they are still his children. They deserve to be tended to and mourned.
>>5073943This says the same message and is way better than what I wrote, just without calling them out, which might just make them angrier anyway. I support this.>>5073331>>5073111I'm this anon, just in case my ID changed a third time today.
>>5073957It's a backhanded call out, but they cant say it is without seeming petty.
This is gonna be difficult>>5073943 - The Ultimate Choice, and I agree with below that this one is nicely written>>5073957>>5073379>>5073815>>5073217TalOS Still asked the Machine>>5073038>>5073096>>5073102Kinda a nice stew>>5073098>>5073257>>5073310>>5073379>>5073945Well, I think I have my work cut out for me. From my understanding we will give them a record of TalOS's miracles and release the new information about the Gellar Field. These together should not only grant the the forces a new weapon against the Plasoids but steel TalOS's position as the Chosen of the Machine God.
These moments were vital to TalOS. To think that he would be declared a heretic anytime in his life was something that Tech Priest would never have expected. He had fully devoted himself to the Machine God, knowing what had happened to him over his life were Miracles given to make sure he succeeded. He could not squander them, not in the face of his fellow men and the Machine God!+Fellow Domini, Brothers and Sisters, I can guarantee you that I have not lost faith with the Machine God. How could I have when I was favored with such knowledge.+ TalOS made sure he stood tall, +What has happened here was not a breaking of ritual or of faith, for I have used divine comprehension given to me by the Machine God himself to achieve this feat.+ +Divine comprehension!? Are you saying that you saying that a revelation is what caused you to commit such actions!?+ Barked the Dominus as he glared daggers at TalOS. The Primarch slowly walked his way towards the Gellar Field and began pointing out points upon the machine, +This here is the current regulator, which manipulates the electricity within the vat to dance to a specific hymn. This is charged through a series of actuators that allows the electricity to impact the small pebble inside.+ Everyone was silent at this moment. Even if TalOS was labeled a heretic the knowledge of such ancient technology was something they could not pass on. +This hymn of divine electricity impacts a black stone that rests in the center of the chamber. This stone has an innate property, if done properly, to nullify the ether with ease. The only comparison I could make is that of a magnetic field that snuffs out or repulses these foul energies!+ TalOS declared with a fire of will building in his chest, +And that is not including the secrets within, metals that have been lost to humanity are right before us!+ To these words the Dominus who had become the judge of TalOS turned towards the Enginseer, +Is what he is speaking the truth?+ Enginseer J4CK thought to himself for a moment, +I cannot say, these revelations uses materials I have previously identified but could not figure out. How did you learn of their Hymn that the Machine Spirit plays to itself?+ +The Machine God allowed me to comprehend its song and the Machine Spirit worked with me to improve it.+ TalOS announced with a good bit of showmanship, +I wish for you all to know that all I did was not against the will of this ancient machine. It had agreed to my actions just like how Knights or Titans welcome their Princeps.+
+So you claim these things, that you were inspired by the Machine God and given the assistance of a Machine Spirit to commit this act?+ +That is the truth, and has been the truth throughout all of my life.+ TalOS admitted to the judge, +The Machines favor me for I am a follower of the faith. I was given the grace of becoming the Princep who made Particep Semper walk, I was shielded in examining and distributing the lore of the Plastoids to use against then, and I was today’s revelation I have now discovered a method to which we may defeat the Plastoids! Through the technology of Psi-Suppression I believe we will drive the Plastoids to extinction!+ These words were exactly what everyone wanted to hear. Each of them were looking towards the Primarch with a great amount of interest and revelation. +So I ask you, my peers and fellows. With all this do you find it reasonable that I would have forsaken my faith and rejected them to create a heresy instead if it being Divine inspiration!?+ They waited there for a minute, each of them likely talking among the chatrooms that were generated by this event. Voiceless but always speaking they debated the topic. TalOS however was able to know the result simply by the sorrowful removal Dominus CL3RK did for himself as another stepped forward. +Acting Dux Dominus TalOS.+ Dominus U1T said as she stared him in the eyes, +What you have done is indeed clearly inspired by the Machine God. All of your actions have placed both Forge World Lucius and the Machine God before your very being. We only ask that you take care for the knowledge you now hold is on parity with that of your predicesor.+ TalOS stared at her for a moment before realizing what it was she announced. Almost burnt to a crisp for his service, that same service was also recognized by his fellow Dominus. With the title of Acting Dux Dominus, and the very real possibility of becoming the Acting Arch Dominus for the crusade, TalOS was floored. +Then hear me well, my brothers and sisters!+ TalOS’s voice and force of will went across the room in an instant, +I vow today to bring the Xenos to heel and slaughter each and every one of them! First prepare the defences for it is obvious that the Xenos can strike us at any time and any angle!+ With those words the Tech Priests quickly got to work preparing for what was a likely secondary attack. As they did so TalOS fell to one knee as the pain going up and down his body was starting to get too much to bare. The Acillians loaded him upon the skit-servitor and started to walk him through the halls to a likely damaged medical bay.
The trip over was not very bad, TalOS had to admit. It warmed his heart as he monitored the numerous schemes and attack stratagems being shared between the Tech Priests on a counter attack. These were of course ran through TalOS, who by assuming the role of Dux Dominus was now in charge of troop assignments and strategy. However the one thing that interested TalOS the most was the person walking next to him, +Dominus D3X, may I ask why you are joining me towards the medical wing.+ +Question reviewed, I am here to talk to you about your current corpus.+ The Tech Priest admitted as the Acillian acted as their bodyguards. +It will take two weeks to heal my body to full.+ TalOS admitted to his fellow. +Suspicion confirmed, those are two weeks that we do not have.+ The Dominus acutely realized, +You must consider the use of augmentation upon your body so that you can attend the front lines.+ +I can attend the front lines as Particep Semper.+ +Particep Semper cannot walk through streets, castles, and manufactoriums.+ +What if the street is made to be wide enough?+ +Statement corrected, however that is a vast waste of firepower.+ +The Plasma Annihilator is limitless, only held back by whatever Machine Spirit is the weakest. I am sure it will work.+ +Alert proxy detected, you will not change the topic fully.+ Demanded the Dominus, +You are needed upon not only the battlefield but the other ships when we leave this station. You will be looked down upon and subverted by those who did not listen to your words directly.+ TalOS simply nodded, +Is there a record of a Genetor surviving?+ +There is not, however I think with your knowledge and my hands we shall modify your body to a higher existance.+ Declared the Dominus, +Or do you have faulty matrixes that believe a medical servitor can do the work.+ TalOS gave his friend a smile to that insult, +And what kind of modifications are we talking about, oh Artificer turned Genetor?+ +A full skin regrafting and bionic right arm for the start.+ Declared the Dominus, +I wish to do far more, Dux Dominus TalOS, however I remember how fond you are of the flesh no matter how weak and replaceable it can be.+ >No modifications, simply help patch TalOS up>Yup, this was going to happen so we might as well get started>Abandon flesh, approach Crux Mechanicus You can even suggest your own upgrades by either posting wiki pages, 40k media, or choosing from here: https://dark-heresy-rp.fandom.com/wiki/Commercial/Military_Bionics
>>5074089We don't have a pain suppressor?
>>5074092Some pain is good, especially when a PRIMARCH is currently in pain.
>>5074091>Abandon flesh, approach Crux Mechanicus Reject flesh, embrace metal bits and make ourselves closer to the holy machine
I will say go crazy guys. When I started this quest I had the mental image of Gulliman walking into TalOS's room, only to find TalOS with six arms walking on the ceiling trying to repair the ventilation in his room. Just imagine how creeped out you can make your brothers.
>>5074095So quick question, do we need to retain a humanoid form? Because if we don't then I have an amazing ideaeventually our body will literally be a massive voidship that is fully ran by our brain (made better through tons of cogitators attached) to ensure everything keeps running, and with robot (or maybe servitor) bodies we can control from long distances for something to both act in areas humanoid bodies are needed and to ensure we stay repaired
>>5074095Second question, does it have to be something that we can make right now or could it be a more long term goal?
>>5074098I take it you had some inspiration? Anyways, thats not the worse idea desu. Just be like taking over a Titan, except you would be a Voidship. Something like that however will take time and a heavy decision if you wanna be modular or not. Tbh it would be an awesome way for TalOS to 'Disappear' when we approach 40k. Also I will refer to the following post because it is awesome and exactly what you are thinking: https://www.reddit.com/gallery/qtq2y4
>>5074099These will be things you guys attach to yourselves right now, but we can start the workings of something greater.
We require better neural interfaces with machines, I recommend alongside our skin grafting we place sub-dermal wires underneath the skin so as to integrate weapon upon our flesh to allow us to equip extra weaponry and take on a lesser version of a tech priest's combat form.Quick-question, do we have myrmidon's onboard?
>>5074105Plenty of dead ones. This was a crusade fleet after all.
>>5074091>Abandon flesh, approach Crux Mechanicus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D_OuASQkUs
>>5074091>Yup, this was going to happen so we might as well get startedI don't want to go full retard with modifications yet, i want the emperor to at least semi recognize us as a human when he meets us. I'd rather go full retard with the modifications as time goes on rather then right away.
>>5074091>>No modifications, simply help patch TalOS updo note we are the gtreatest type of transhuman in this universe ours flesh is worth more then three worlds
>>5074091>No modifications, simply help patch TalOS upI'd prefer a middle ground, like a temporary bionic arm with a data jack and tools that can fold out, but I don't want to go full metal crazy ..... yet.
>>5074091>>No modifications, simply help patch TalOS up
>>5074091>No modifications, simply help patch TalOS up
>>5074227Heresy! The holy machine is obviously of infinitely more worth than some paltry flesh
Time for upgrades!>Yup, this was going to happen so we might as well get started.More stuff should be added, as long as our superior organs are not touched. I was thinking about stuff like Subskin armor, Augur Array, a better Autosanguine, a Baleful Array, a Calculus Logi upgrade, possibly Cerebral Implants (as long as these don't mess with our superior brain), Cranial Armor, INterface Port, Locator Matrix, Luminen Capacitor, Maglev Coils, a MIU, and a Memorance Implant should be good upgrades. Bionic Limbs can wait for now.
>>5074289>>Abandon flesh, approach Crux MechanicusI agree! The Flesh is weak, but The Machine is Eternal!Why should we languish in the prison that the ignorant and savage call the "Temple"? Why should we not reach out to what is Greater? to what is Purer?The Weak and Foolish might fear abandoning their Flesh, believing themselves to lose the self at its removal, but the wise and enlightened know that there is far greater Strength in Metal and Wire, in Servo and Piston, in Data and Knowledge. So come, my brothers, let us reach out to that more perfect world, let us reach out to the true essence of The Omnissiah!
>>5074091>Yup, this was going to happen so we might as well get started.Primarch meat is the most prime of meat, but as Gulliman and to an extent even Angron show, even the best meat can fail you or be forcibly altered against your wishes.Only in metal can faith be put, for the machine always does what it's supposed to do and if it doesn't then you know how to fix it.
>>5074176>>5074227>>5074248Also just to point out, you all do realize we've kinda already past that point right? If I remember correctly our brain is literally in our chest cavity and our skull houses a computer.The "Pure Primarch form" has already be severely altered. All this choice is doing is if we want those changes to be on the outside as well as the inside and if we're really all that attached to our meaty limbs.
>>5074091>Yup, this was going to happen so we might as well get startedWhat is a body but a machine of flesh?the flesh greatest strength is how it heals by itself.As our own creation, and of the acillia, it shows that flesh is also able to be improved. To reach the pinacle of Crux Mechanicus, an equilibrium must be found, until the difference between body and machine is none.Because if flesh was truly impure, the glory of the Machine God would have never graced humanities mind, and we would have been like the xenos, creating only mockeries.
>>5074091>No modifications, simply help patch TalOS upImho, I think if we go full mecha, MC will be weaker than what he is as natural Primarch. Perturabo and Ferrus Manus could go that route, but didn't and if it would be more efficient or effective - they would. But I'm not against 6 arms if natural arms will be present
>>5074091>No modifications, simply help patch TalOS upIn my opinion we should wait until we are back home to get augmented because i doubt the quality of augments that are in the fleet is high grade enough for us
>>5074433Quality is something that can always be changed, especially with augmentations. Thats why at some point I imagine you guys are gonna hook up with Vulkan to make something insane.
>>5074438imma be honest, i would rather hook up with Perturabo and make some energy weapon that has a perpetual reactor in, or something of that kind.Imagine, a weapon that never needs to be refuelled and can continue to shoot, needing no pause, just an infinite amount of Dakka.
>>5074444Not a bad idea at all. I know you guys are probably going to try to save a Traitor Primarch, if it ends up being Perty I'm going to be fucking surprised.
>>5074091>No modifications, simply help patch TalOS upWe're gonna burn out our flesh to the last bits of bone before we consider augmenting ourselves a bit more.
>>5074444You know anon, it would be kind cool if we had a crack team of our Primarch brothers to work on a project to build something so wonderful that the Imperium would remember it for ages to come.
>>5074446Well, of all the traitor primarchs, Pert is probably the one we would have the most in common, unless Lorgar somehow converts to the Cult Mechanicus, in which case we can be fanatics together, and make Emps seethe.
>>5074446I mean Lorgar is a cuck.I can only think maybe mangus, pert or Horus? We could get along with
>>5074462Yeah, Horus was a pretty swell guy until he got soul raped and his pscyhe was thrown into the blender and back.Magnus.... is a difficult one to talk about. He is really, and i mean REALLY, arrogant when it comes to the warp. This could be difficult for us to overcome, but hey, we can always try.Perturabo is a bro, a very angsty and grudge holding bro, but a bro nonetheless. If i had to classify him, then he would kinda be like a fan version of a Warhammer fantasy dawi. Really good at holding and nursing grudges, fantastic at design engineering projects and very, and i do mean VERY, loyal when it comes to fulfilling his oaths. (Though he has a tendancy to be unhappy if you don't acknowledge his work in JUST the right way)
>>5074469Shit... him being a Dawi makes the most amount of sense now.
>>5074475Yeah, the man was literally a smartass that went around and grumbled about everything. when i first read about Perturabo, i immediately thought "huh, this is just a big Longbeard" and i haven't really read anything that would change my perspective on that.
>>5074475>>5074482It might explain why anon's like to try and save Pert so much, dwarfs are a /tg/ favorite after all, /qst/ must have inherited it.
>>5074486He's also kinda the easiest, especially now when you guys can essentially contract him to do aquaducts for ya like he always wanted.
>>5074488What
>>5074488Asking Pert with help on re-organizing our realm into forge, agri-knight and civilized worlds might actually make that plan possible, and give him a way to play with Legos at the same time.Asking him to make the structires defensible, beautiful and functional at the same time could be a big enough challenge, and something that is not eternal siege.
>>5074494Perturbo's entire life's desire is to basically play architect on a planet wide scale.He was put in a role by the Emperor to basically do anything but that.And was denied the chance to build the Golden Palace, which the chance was given to his brother Rogal Dorn.What the QM is saying is that the fastest way to get into Pert's good graces is to basically let him play with planet sized legos instead of blowing shit up.
>>5074504Pert truly does infact be, Best boy. Also a Forge world designed by Pert sounds wew
>>5074511Would Pert prefer Sim City, Factorio or any of Impressions' City Building games?
>>5074518All of them at the same time.
>>5074518>implying not dwarf fortress
>>5074518The game that lets him have the most control over the city and micromanagement.
>>5074518Well it's simple, the one that requires the most autism to play.
>>5074551So heavily modded Death World Factorio? Perty would just mod it just to make it harder.
>>5074523You know, he is very autistic, so i think he would LOVE to play dwarf fortress, no mods of course just vanilla!
>>5074556I would unironically love to see a video game that's built by Pert. Because you know there's going to be shit underneath the hood that will catch you off guard even if you were paying attention. Both good and bad.
>>5074556>>5074563Modded Dwarf Fortress to allow sci-fi stuff, call it Squat Stronghold.
>>5074446I mean if we get to Angron before the Emperor fucks that up I say we have a pretty good chance of getting him on board too, and out of all of us we might have the best chance at getting those nails out of his head.
>>5074714I doubt we can because he's on some shithole machine god only knows where in Ultima segmetum and we're far north east in segmentum obscurus
Allright, who here wants to save best boys Angron and Perturabo?
>>5074714>>5074826Here's a map.It's made by a redditor and for 42K, but its the most accurate and complete map I could find.
>>5074091Changing from>>5074094 To >Yup, this was going to happen so we might as well get startedAlso in terms of modifications that are minor I feel like we should get something to make our MMI better if people want to keep our body fleshy be because that way we can go full primarch war spaceship while still being able to use our meat body
>>5074447Why so against the machine bits?
>>5074842Oops my IP changed.. I'm on my phone and I forgot to reconnect to home wifi *sigh* It should work now
>>5074835Thx, any clue where angron's world is? I couldn't find anything other than that it's in Ultima
>>5074868I'm going to try and mark the primarch's worlds, give me a minute.
>>5074876>>5074868Here you go.There is no homeworld for Alpharius or Omegon, because misinformation is their thing,
>>5074847Because I like the idea of us getting every little mile out of our organic parts.
>>5074915You forget that your right arm is currently a liability. IN about 6 more hours you will hit the Plastoid homeworld, and if you don't have your arm or modifications to subsitute it till it heals you guys are not going to be in the initial assualt. Add in the fact your skin has been wrecked by Dark Age Tech as well... its a liability.
>>5074925Just cut the arm off, put in a tube and reattach later.If if we can put it back in, we get more meat to study.
>>5074940If we can't, sorry.
Augment>>5074842>>5074154>>5074176>>5074348>>5074362>>5074419>>5074346>>5074248 - Reading his explanation he wanted the middle option, as it gives TalOS just an arm and some new skin grafts. Also this breaks the tie. No Modification>>5074227>>5074266>>5074278>>5074431>>5074433>>5074447I went ahead and mixed the middle and extreme together because the extreme people would obviously want to at least augment. I really don't understand why it ended up like this and not a battle between what to replace and what not to. This is the Mechanicus Primarch Quest, why is everyone so adamant about keeping their flesh? Even a Primarch's flesh is but paper against the insane creations of the Mechanicus. Kastelan Robots for example have a toughness of 7 while Guilliman has only a 6, meaning they are many times tougher than a Primarch. Yeah its the Table Top but GW tries their best to make their Table Top kinda lore accurate.
>>5075159I did it because I want to go full Genetor in the future and find the perfect mix of flesh and steel.
>>5075159Who knows QM.
>>5075159I think the more we see how awesome machine is, the more likely we will depart from our flesh. As impressive as our flesh is, improving upon it with machinery is surely be more so.I vote all the way with the full>>Abandon flesh, approach Crux MechanicusEven so, for surely, we should get the Iron Helm like Perturabo has so we can have wireless neural interface and control of machines.It would be super awesome if we ever got our hands on some Necrodermus like Ferrus. Imagine if we had the capacity to program it to become any tool, any piece of equipment we can think of.>>5074431>MC will be weaker than what he is as natural PrimarchI'd only agree if it weren't the mind of a skilled Primarch doing it.Saying that we cannot improve upon our fathers creation in our specialty shows a severe lack of faith in our abilities that I hope the QM will correct by displaying them in full.To each primarch is given a face of the Emperor honed to an extreme of perfection, perhaps even above the emperor himself. Angron is the Emperors wroth, Rus his Fury, Guilliman his wit, Lorgar his persuasion.We are his mechanical knowledge and expertise. To us is given his enourmous knowledge of machinery to create and design.
>>5075159Our flesh is a blessing from the Omnissiah. The perfect human form is a template and a gift not to be spat upon needlessly.Self cannibalization is hardly a good thing, when it should be accompanied by a great milestone.We also need to keep some of our flesh so Big E recognises us.
>>5075171We hardly need a great amount of flesh for that. We can always just save our own DNA samples. Even if we are down to our brains or just our skull.Hell we can always use super science to put our organs into storage and keep them functioning, BigMT style.
>>5075179Every Primarch exhumes an aura of Charisma and power around them. The Emperor will know it is his son, no matter how disappointed he is in the path TalOS took.
>>5075173Angron was meant to be empathy.So Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.Sucks to be him
>>5075179This is extremely antithetical to the mindset of the Admech, especially an Admech primarch, and completely defeats the purpose entirely.We might as well be any other primarch with that sort of thought pattern.I disagree with it wholeheartedly. The human form is not merely in body or physical shape. The flesh is weak. Even the Emperor himself in creating us, the space marines, has made his own alterations that are profoundly different to baseline humans, even if aesthetically many are similar.The greatest gift and that which makes a human a person, is the mind. The mind and the soul are the essence of humanity. A persons body may change, from that of a child to an old man, a limb may be lost or replaced, even every bit of his flesh turned to mechanics but if his brain and his mind remain intact he is still the same person. The body is but a vessel for something greater that lies within.
>>5075180Look, how would we reach a perfect mix of flesh and steel by getting rid of all the flesh?Did you just see the word Genetor and thought I just wanted to enter the order, without reading the rest of the post?
>>5075182>>5075179Even Dorn notes that Alpharius disguise was perfect and he made no flaw, but he could still know it was him.Nigh of blowing up our brain, or being a blank, the Emperor will recognize us.I'm just so. . .utterly digusted by the amount of flesh worshippers here. There's a difference between accepting the usefulness of Adetpus Biologis, saving our organs and DNA for future use as genetic material for experiments.And outright rejecting the wonderful blessing to create advanced mechanical parts for our bodies far in excess and superior to even that of our original primarch form.That I seriously hope QM shows it by just writing a scene of how AWESOME our new arm or whatever will be and how TalOS himself hopes to do it to his whole body and that it is objectively better to quel any concerns.
>>5075187Man, being completely honest with you, I just want each augment to come with a great victory or event. I don't really give a fuck about what the admech say is or isn't 'the good thing to do' outside of not doing tech heresy.So with every bit of glory we cut a bit off of us and forge some master crafted replacements. We got our super arms when we destroyed their home planet.We got our cranial implants when we found an STC fragment.Each step towards doing something that fulfils our destiny to the machine god we transcend.>>5075192Then naturally, we've to make sure our shit IS better than our flesh. Triple, quadruple check. Because fuck cutting an arm off for a 'just as good' replacement. It's a waste of time and resources. I want a step up or THE BEST when we do so.
>>5075187>>5075192Organicists, they exist and are not heretics.Throwing away all of our natural gifts just seen like a massive waste, ergo the objective should be to find a way where the flesh and steel are interchangeable, where there is no true end of the body and beggining of machine.And it would also give an objective as a personal quest for knowledge, to find lost cyber tech from AoT that would make it possible.
>>5075190>Look, how would we reach a perfect mix of flesh and steel by getting rid of all the flesh?This issue is that, at face value, there isn't a clear definition. A typical cyborg is neither the perfect form of flesh, nor the perfect form of steel, and it is often better to lean towards the steel.I would be inclined to agree with you if, and back you up, the perfect "Mix of Flesh and Steel" were perhaps some form of Synth-Flesh. Nanites or Necrodermis perhaps. This right here is the only definition of perfect mix of flesh and steel I could perceive. Where flesh is steel, and steel is flesh. if you agree to that being the ultimate end goal, then I would support it.
>>5075201I never actually considered that.With this new information/goal, I'd be willing to sacrifice my more 'thematic' path of ascension to just go full robot ASAP, then start developing "Nano-machine" flesh.We can look like we once did, we can interact with the imperium as we once did, but when it's time to rumble or talk to tech priests, we cal peel it back and revel in being a robot.
>>5075201That was my idea, find lost cool shit, specially nanomachines, and reach true Crux Mechanicus, where all is machine, yet it's still fully man.It's an ambition, and dream, but it would cement us as the one and only Omnissiah.
>>5075197>Then naturally, we've to make sure our shit IS better than our flesh.I find your lack of faith in our Primarchs sad.That's like saying we should double check that Guillimans logistical decisions are for the best. Or that Jagatai Khan's tactics are the swiftest route to victory.Primarchs weren't made to do "just as good". They were made to do "better than anyone has ever dreamed of before."Also I'm fine with our augments being victory related. In fact, I do have an idea how we can keep our flesh and be augments at the same time. ||Perhaps a battle for a long lost STC||>>5075200>the objective should be to find a way where the flesh and steel are interchangeable, where there is no true end of the body and beggining of machine.I will agree to this, if taken to its truest form.Which means, we're going to have to become even more Ferrus Manus than Ferrus Manus.
>>5075206>>5075209>>5075210Brother anons this is a glorious agreementI think we've achieved epiphany where both the Flesh supporters and Machine supports have the ultimate path towards both.>>5075159QM please take into this consideration of a future goal for TalOS.I'd like to think maybe this is what he considers the perfect Man/Machine Hybrid.It might involve a very long term goal, but the technology does exist in 40k! Maybe we can one day spend effort to improve it to achieve our dreamshttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Nano-Genus_Mechadendrites
>>5075215Good lord, all I imagine is someone successfully cuts off TalOS's head, only for the corpse to get right back up and say, +Nanomachines, son+ before reattaching the skull.
>>5075218Absolutly glorious.Maybe even do it like the end of the dlc and use the sharpened stub to the attacker, and just reattach the head
>>5075215Also, can we all laugh at the fact Nano-Machines are held by the Micro-Omnisiah Cult.
Can't we just keep our body on ice? Something to tinker with and upgrade?If we really need it in the future, we just plug ourselves back in.
>>5075218>when our human form without the visible augments is literally just Senator Armstrong>this was even before the nanomachines
>>5075229Thats pretty easy, Stasis Fields literally freezes the limb in time.
>>5075231A fusion between Armstrong and Terry Davis.Dear Machine God, it is amazing.
I'mma take a guess that you all wanna talk to your sons?
>>5075253Yes
>>5075253Of course.
TalOS soon went into a deep pondering about his body, for these moments, because the truth was he did not like many things about it. He might have been able to get much more work out of his flesh and hopefully he could have gotten more useful augmetics that were positively not from the dead and fallen. Maybe, in a heretical thought, TalOS thought that his flesh might have been better than a machine. Thus TalOS decided to give his side of the deal, +I shall agree to this, Dominus D3X, however I ask you to place my arm into storage for the time being.+ +Analyzing words, that is an odd statement to make, TalOS. Do you really think you will regret this decision?+ +I am simply taking precautions, Dominus D3X. Precautions in case a more perfect form of creation is found later or there is some use for all the DNA found upon the limb.+ TalOS pointed out as they arrived at the infirmary. +You are a brilliant man, Dux Dominus TalOS, but are also a foolish man.+ The Tech Priest said his last words before gathering a series of tools together to start the implantation of the cybernetic arm. The limb that was chosen to be placed upon TalOS was not exactly a factory standard cybernetic arm, mainly because TalOS was just that much bigger than a normal Tech Priest. As such the Dominus Artificer needed a series of things to make it work with TalOS. TalOS watched as for roughly an hour a series of parts were ran to and from the medicae. These ranged from limbs from Kastelan Robots, plates of Acillian Power Armor, and even some actualators from other Tech Priest limbs. TalOS would have thought the result to be something makeshift, something that could not be comparable to his original, but looking at the limb he was far more interested in it. +If it was not so beautiful I would have accused you of Heresy.+ Joked TalOS as he saw the limb, +Filling a Power Armored arm with circuits and motors to exact a greater form of operation.+ +It is only what I could create in this time, but I want to make sure you know the power of augmentation so I did not take a moment’s rest.+ The Dominus said before coming to the table with the limb, +Now let us begin.+
The Surgery was somewhat both a brutal and efficient affair. Since Dominus D3X did not have the true expertise of a genetor TalOS had to send him a series of data and also help guide his hand. TalOS was very active in the operation, guiding the hand of D3X to the exact points the work needed to be done. With the skill of an adept genetor the right arm was removed without any lasting damage to the nerves and muscles. This limb was placed into a Stasis Field within only a minute of removal which would give TalOS the ability to reattach it later. Then again he could always grow a new one. You can probably say TalOS had grown attached to the limb. The next few moments were devoted to the removal of all the burnt skin and muscle that was not going to grow back any time soon. The amount of damage was immense for sure. Still the skill of an Artificer’s hands and a Genetor’s mind were more than enough to correctly remove all of these bodyparts. With removal of all damaged tissue done the repairs were to begin. They started with the destroyed skin, replacing the vast majority of it with ceremite plates. In such a manner is caused TalOS’s body to look like half of it was covered in Power Armor. Still, as with the skill of a Artisan and Genetor combined, it worked something akin to actual skin instead of something as bulky as power armor. After the skin was finished Dominus D3X attached through the previously exposed nerves and muscle the augmented limb. It did not take long before TalOS could feel the strength and power of the limb, which he could describe as just a few ticks above that of his original. Once the last bolts were placed TalOS felt the new Machine Spirit fully integrate with his systems and the Primarch quickly began to test the limb, +Hmm, I did not think an arm could move in this direction.+ +Words registered, the chances of you fighting both in front and behind are high. Because of this I found it imperative that you have actuations of one hundred eighty degrees.+ +A reasonable assessment.+ TalOS said as he got off the surgical table, +We have two hours before we arrive in the system, and there are Acillian currently waiting outside the Medicae door.+ +One should not be surprised they are there, you are their Lord after all.+ Dominus D3X said as he began cleaning the equipment, +We are done here, you may go meet them.+
TalOS made his way out of the Medicae while testing out more and more of his new robotic limb. Already he had improvements planned out, such as placing a series of tools into the wrist to assist in further constructions. These thoughts were plenty, but were not for this time as TalOS walked up to see the Mitarii AL4N before him. +Father, it is good to see the augmetics have succeeded.+ Declared the Acillian as he looked upon his Primarch, +And its good that you survived. I speak out of line, but I was worried of your safety.+ +A reasonable assessment.+ TalOS declared as the two of them started to walk down the halls, +The boarding actions that happened to us was sudden and something we could not have expected. It was thanks to you and the Acillians that we were able to push the Plastoids off the ship.+ +That would be your honor Father. After all, you were able to suppress the Psychic powers of the enemy which caused a complete collapse of their ranks.+ +You cut yourselves short.+ TalOS told his favored son before simply giving a smile, +However there will be no words to describe your soon to be grand battle upon the Surface of the Plastoid Homeworld.++Indeed, the glory of being the first to land will be ours.+ Announced the Acillian as he thought to himself for a moment, +Though do you not also share in that glory, Father? You are after all going to join us in the dropsite.+ +That is correct.+ TalOS answered with a small chuckle, +However I will not be able to do it without any of you, so you should consider it your own.+ +I will do so then.+ Announced the Acillian as they made their way down the halls. >Go see how the Acillians are preparing for the battle>Join AL4N for a few sweeps of the ship to damages and such>Head to the bridge for the coming arrival.
>>5075289>Head to the bridge for the coming arrival.
>>5075289>>Join AL4N for a few sweeps of the ship to damages and such
>>5075159>why is everyone so adamant about keeping their flesh?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2EQ0FlVks4
>>5075346Sounds like what heretics say *rubs melts gun erotically*
>>5075472You sounds like a cultist about to commit horrible things to a poor machine spirit.
>>5075289>Head to the bridge but have a few Skitsrri do answer of the ship.>Establish communications with the rest of the fleet.
>>5075596Support.>>5075346>>5075472>>5075494Anons please, you aren't seeing the bigger picture, our destiny and birthright.Flesh and Steel united as one: unbreakable, unconquerable, unblemished.
>>5075646I'm fine with that as that is the true path and greatest height of humanity and technology to reach enlightenment and understanding of the Machine God.I just don't want to so much metal that we'd be attaching flesh to metal rather than the other way around.Ultimately I'd like to reach a perfect balance of 50/50 Man and Machine.I'd like to keep the arm too as it will probably be a holy artifact in a few thousand years. But we must woo our flesh towards accepting our metal, and our metal bless our flesh in holy matrimony.
>>5075646Nanomachine infused flesh bod is based and I hope Machine God gives us the opportunity to go for it.>>5075656With nanites we would be 100% man and 100% machine.We would be 200% Primarch
>>5075289>Head to the bridge for the coming arrival.Sadly I don't think we have the opportunity to really speak to the acillians because as the Machine God (and our fellow tech persists) have trusted in us to succeed in this position we MUST not disappoint and we should give our duty it's due diligence
>>5075596>Go see how the Acillians are preparing for the battle
>>5075663
>>5076021Its not that heretical, if anything the result of this thought is going to be kinda hilarious.
>>5076077I wanted a "that's not BS but I believe it" meme that was 40k themed but this was all I could find.
Reading on the nanites, they seem to be dedicated to operating outside the body, and that the microfactory is very fragile.We are going to need to modify it so the nanomachines work within the body, and so that it produces synth-flesh and some sort of strong, flexible alloy, find a way to reinforce the microfactory and/or descentralize the process. Maybe link it to a modified autosaguine? Also perhap a backup microfactory to repair the main one in case of damage.Definatly going to need a bionic spine to support all of this weight, and shuffle a few organs around to fit it all.
The Bridge>>5075319>>5075354>>5075596>>5075736>>5075646>>5075736Others>>5075320>>5075934No time for some Father Sons time, ah well.
They traveled through the ship watching as numerous Skitarii and Servitors tried their best to make repairs to the place. However for all of this TalOS noted the distinct lack of Tech Priests who would normally be watching over the activities of the freedom impaired. +We have lost a lot of Priests.+ The Matarii to TalOS’s right said as they passed by these machines. +We have. Too much knowledge was lost today to even make the calculation upon.+ The Tech Priest announced as he gave a deep solemn sigh, +I will not allow their deaths to be for nothing.+ +By bringing the Plastoids to the blaster yourself.+ Finished the Acillian as they finally reached the bridge. +Indeed, which means the objective of this crusade has not changed.+ TalOS announced he walked into the room with his honor guard. The room was damaged with numerous scraps of plasma marks about the place. The only things that seemed untouched were likely what was replaced between the attack and TalOS’s entry to the room. +Dux Dominus.+ One of the Priests in the room called out to TalOS as he approached the control throne, +Repairs are coming along on schedule as well as transport. We will be exiting Warp Transit in two hours.+ +Good.+ TalOS said single wordly as he ascended the throne and took his seat. Sitting upon the throne TalOS was flanked by his trusted Acillian Guards to make sure the new Dux Dominus did not meet a cruel end like the last one. He lowered his head and brought his hands up in prayer. +Awaken the panel.+ TalOS said as the terminal before him awakened, +Reroute the interface and prepare one’s mind and connect with the Spirit. Then Connect.+ Upon those words the Mechanrite inserted itself into the terminal. Just like before he was given all the information of the ship. In seconds he was recognized by the Machine Spirit within and welcomed like a pet to their owner. +Connection has been established, the Dux Dominus has ascended to the Command Throne!+ Declared a Tech Priest as they continued their workings.
TalOS watched from above for those two hours as the Tech Priests of Adept, Dominus, and Enginseer ranks all worked at maintaining the Voidship. He gave out commands where they were needed and corrections when necessary. Unlike others however the Primarch knew to trust the Tech Priests who all sat underneath the Primarch’s command. +Estimates realized, it is time to take us out of the Warp sir!+ Declared an Enginseer as he sent data confirming what he said to be true. TalOS gave a subtle nod as he bowed his head, +Activate the alerts to alert the crew! Hold everything down that you hold dear! Upon this moment we traverse the realm of monsters to that of our Lord!+ Upon those commands the entire room went red with alerts. The entire bridge staff bolted themselves into place as the Ritual of Exit were given. +Bring the Energy Generation to Max and disengage the safeties. Direct all power to the blessed Warp Drive, for it is our salvation!+ TalOS declared in a commanding voice that rang through the entire space ship, +Awaken her with all this might, awaken the Divine Sunderer! Pray to the Machine God for souls as she awakens!+ Upon those words the Priests did as they were told, bowing their heads as an unseen rip in the immaterium was ripped. The entire ship began to shake as they moved forward and entered the domain of the Machine God, reality. As soon as the shaking started it had stopped, +Raise the iron curtains and let us see our destination. Bask in the Glory that is the Machine God for we have ARRIVED!+ Before them was a planet about the size of Lucius. It's only difference was that unlike Lucius which was a cream color this one was a barren grey. Even from orbit they could all see them, at least three cities which had lines which directed them towards several others. This was the Plastoid Homeworld in all its hedonistic glory. Everyone within the command room was stunned for words for that moment. From TalOS’s knowledge and whatever recon they could gather the planet should not have had any planetary defences but they were tricked once. After several minutes however it was proven that the Xenos did not have any such defences, which meant their boarding actions were likely the closest thing they had to a planetary defense. They waited there for a moment, for what seemed like an hour even though it was only seven minutes. In that time another rift was opened, followed by four others. Only five of the original twelve ships arrived, including Ark Lucius.
The Bridge was silent as the realization hit them all. The Flag Ship, no, Birth Ship of Lucius was lost to the Warp. None of the bridge, let alone the other ships, spoke a single word as they realized this. From the most emotionless Tech Priest to TalOS, they all felt the sheer amount of lost from the bottom of their hearts. It was this fact that caused the communication to their fellow Survivors to be delayed for roughly a minute. However TalOS knew time was not on their side. He had his ship close in to become the beacon of communication between all the surviving ships. Acting Dux Dominus TalOS: Hail, fellow brothers and sisters, began sharing status reports.Upon those words numerous packages of information were sent between each of the ships. The Onus Probandi got off quite lightly from the reports, most only having 10% of their Tech Priests and 40% of their Skitarii. Over all, each of them were close to a Skeleton crew. However, the Xenos did not attack their inventory of Titans. Two of their fellow ships were carriers meaning in total eight Warlords, Twelve Warhounds, and nearly twenty Knights all survived the trip. These numbers were quite high, but one of the ships had a special person onboard. Arch Magos and Acting Dux Dominus ADM1N: You have advanced a lot since the last time we were in contact, Dux Dominus TalOS.Acting Dux Dominus TalOS: I am thankful to see that you are alive, Arch Magos. Acting Dux Dominus AL3X: Arch Magos ADM1N and Dux Dominus TalOS, had any of the previous Dux Domini survived? Acting Dux Dominus and Chief Enginseer L00T: We have lost our and I have since taken over. Acting Dux Dominus F33L: All Domini upon the Litany of Litany have been lost.TalOS felt back into his chair at the facts as they were presented to them. None of the Dux Domini had survived, resulting in the highest ranking member of Lucius being ADM1N, however…Arch Magos and Acting Dux Dominus ADM1N: Then we have lost all replacements of the previous Dux Domini. Then, as an Arch Magos of Forge World Lucius I shall inherit their responsibilities of the late Arch Dominus J0LT. Acting Dominus AL3X: My apologies Arch Magos, but you are not a member of the Domini and you are ignoring the activation of the Designtee Protocol! You do not even have the War Programs and knowledge to act as the Arch Dominus. Why didn't you not agree with the Arch Dominus that you would act subservient to the Domini for this Crusade!?
TalOS was happy to see a lot of people he kinda knew on the table, but the discussion was not good. Indeed Dominus AL3X had a mighty fine point, as TalOS knew from being a Princep, that Arch Magos ADM1N of Legio Astorum basically begged to be on this mission, and to make sure that the voices of two the two did not clash the Magos was officially given a lesser status. Things have clearly changed however. Still, now that TalOS thought to himself, did these people have what it took? Indeed Arch Magos ADM1N had the potential, but Dominus AL3X’s words were correct in that he was trained to operate with Titans not the entire armed force. TalOS, admittedly, did not really trust AL3X from her words so far back about scavenging Xenos Tech. As for the other two, they were either clearly an Adept in shoes too big for them or not made of Dominus materials. >Accept Arch Magos ADM1N’s authority. >Ask for a vote *And use that favor from AL3X so long ago to secure the position.*>Declare that the Designtee Algorithm shall be activated, let the Machine God himself decide. Grammar is hard. Sorry I just now noticed a typo that is going to cause confusion. Follow this post for what the case is.
>>5076310>Declare that the Designtee Algorithm shall be activated, let the Machine God himself decide.
>>5076310>>Declare that the Designtee Algorithm shall be activated, let the Machine God himself decide.
>>5076310>Ask for a vote *And use that favor from AL3X so long ago to secure the position.*
>>5076314Support.The program will defer to a Domini. Likely the administrative user.
>>5076310>Declare that the Designtee Algorithm shall be activated, let the Machine God himself decide.RNGesus take the wheelAlso is the algorithm made in HolyC by any chance?
Truth be told if we are the Mechanicus Primarch we wouldn't need to be in our sons presence to address them.We would just address them with the internal Vox built into our head. And if we don't have one we should make one.>>5076180Really we need to just adjust the nanites so that they make nanites. The nanites themselves should form support structure like spine, flesh, etc.>Declare that the Designtee Algorithm shall be activated, let the Machine God himself decide.
You fellows trust the Machine God. I should not have expected anything else. >>5076314>>5076323>>5076342>>5076466>>5076470>>5076546>>5076599>>5076639>>5076640>>5076702>>5076705>>5076742
>>5077243The Will of the Omnissiah is made Manifest in the Voice and Actions of his Chosen, Hallowed be thy Matrix.
TalOS did not even need to think as he gave out his thoughts. Acting Dominus TalOS: I agree with Acting Dux Dominus AL3X, we will adhere to tradition. There was a moment that no text appeared. TalOS knew that the Arch Magos was obviously thinking to himself for these moments. Was he by chance weighing the possibility of strong arming the other two individuals, or maybe he was thinking about shooting the two remaining Domini out of the sky. Alright, the last one was likely not to happen. However the War Programs still took this moment to configure themselves in case it happened. Arch Magos and Acting Dux Dominus ADM1N: Very well, I agree with these terms Domini. Shall we sync our ships and begin the program?Acting Dux Dominus TalOS: Of course.The next few seconds resulted in the numerous ships linking up with one another. Their systems, once the sync had been established, the Machine Spirit that was just created for this task began to think. There were a couple interesting things about the Machine Spirit that TalOS noted as he watched it. For one, thanks to the union before its start, the Machine Spirit was far more resistant to tampering than if it had simply stayed upon a single ship. In addition to this, everyone was attached to the system and knew all of their fellow’s actions at this current moment. The data started to take in the experience of each individual. This data was given a value before instantly processing the information of rank. Everyone watched in that moment as the Arch Magos lost such priority and was placed in third place. TalOS could basically hear the clicking of the Arch Magos as he was driven below the two far less experienced folk. After that the system finished, the result came out. Everyone was suprised for the moment. This moment was placed into the lore of the entire Mechanicus. From a birth that was essentially nothing the Chosen of the Machine God crawled through the ranks to the top. Authority Determination Machine Spirit: Lords of the Mechanicus, upon this moment TalOS DAV1S has been promoted to Arch Dominus for the remainder of the campaign.M30.011.02, Primarch TalOS assumed the position of Arch Dominus of the First Mechanicus Crusade.
Arch Dominus TalOS: The Machine Spirit has spoken, from henceforth I shall be assuming the position of Arch Dominus. Acting Dux Dominus and Chief Enginseer L00T: It will be a pleasure working with you, Arch Dominus TalOS. Acting Dux Dominus F33L: My Lord, while we might have only skeletons we will be at your command.As they sent their messages there was a moment’s lul. While these two did not really care about the outcome the others were likely much more surprised on what happened. TalOS could not blame them since he was sort of surprised himself. However the Primarch knew that the Machine God favored him. Arch Magos and Acting Dux Dominus ADM1N: The Machine Spirit has spoken, to which you have ascended to the top. I ask that you listen to my council as we are of equal rank.Arch Dominus TalOS: I can agree with that, Arch Magos ADM1N. I look forward to working with you. Acting Dux Dominus AL3X: I shall be awaiting your orders, Arch Dominus.TalOS could not help but feel there was something much in AL3X’s words, however the Arch Dominus did not have time to worry about that. He quickly created an agenda and sent it to the others who were within the room. Arch Dominus TalOS: First things first I shall confirm positions. Send me your rosters and I shall assign them as such.TalOS was flooded with biographical information, both from his own ship and that of the others. At the moment there were two folks who held positions they should not have. As such TalOS took members of his own craft and assigned them to their ships. Arch Dominus TalOS: Acting Dux Domini F33L and L00T you are hereby relieved of your positions. I have assigned personnel to replace you in the coming day. Dux DOminus AL3X and Arch Magos ADM1N, I have confirmed your positions. However, Arch Magos ADM1N I have simply recognized you as my second in command for this Crusade.Arch Magos ADM1N: Thank you, Arch Dominus TalOS. When you give the command the Titans shall walk. Arch Dominus TalOS: Thank you, Arch Magos.
Arch Dominus TalOS: Now that the decision has been made we must decide our actions. We have 37% of our original Skitarii, 9% if our Tech Priests, and 73% of our original Titan Forces. Does anyone have anything else to add to the calculation. Arch Magos ADM1N: I do not Arch Dominus. From those numbers it is clear we are lacking in numbers which would suggest planet cracking. I am to inform you from my own knowledge that the planet cannot be cracked with the amount of firepower we have. Dux Dominus AL3X: But we do have enough to cause environmental damage. Is the planet that necessary? Arch Dominus TalOS: It is not that we want to destroy the planet but the cities of the Xenos are impervious to environmental changes. Their foul god has made sure to shield against acts that come from the heavens.Arch Magos ADM1N: Then we are back to the landing strategy. Based on our resources I cannot see the original plan working out. It would be too easy for our forces to be slaughtered to a man. Dominus AL3X: Then however about a single landing point? If we create a beachhead and take out one of the cities then it should be guaranteed. Arch Dominus TalOS: A single point would be a guaranteed landing zone, however it does not make it a long term solution. They will simply mount a large assault against it. Arch Magos ADM1N: That is possibly to our advantage. Legio Astorum is at near full power and could turn their assault against us into a grinder.Dux Dominus AL3X: We could use two landing locations, force the enemy to split their forces and make it so either force can become a spearhead. Arch Dominus TalOS: Those are all reasonable, but what if we instead launched a single initial beachhead, and when the retaliation comes we attempt to blitz their cities? There were plenty of good options placed forward for everyone to look over, each one of them having their own merits. It would come down to War Programs and Experience to determine which is the best. >A single strike zone!>Two at the same time, using the armor to the full effect>One LZ, then when the counter assault comes initiate another attack!
You guys can do write ins and declare what numbers you wanna throw at what.
>>5077461>Two at the same time, using the armor to the full effectDouble Penetration!
>>5077461>Two at the same time, using the armor to the full effect
>>5077461>Two at the same time, using the armor to the full effectAir and orbital support to hit anything leaving the protections of the cities and hitting the roads and connections from all the cities to each other in order to separate and isolate them. Any fancy designs connecting the city shall be blasted apart.
Might be an idea to consider having TalOS consolidate forces to a fewer number of void ships and crank the gellar fields on the rest and drop them from orbit onto the cities, psi suppression effect would get them through the mentioned environmental shield and the resulting explosion and field should kill a lot of xenos and destroy a pretty big chunk of a couple of cities presumably, depending on how many ships we’d drop; obviously heavy loss fleet wise but given the low troop numbers currently, even titans might not be enough
>>5077461Write In:"Achieving complete Ground control is a near impossibility, while achieving Orbital control is an assured inevitability. We must therefore use our Orbital advantage to its limits. I therefore propose use of rapid Hit and Deploy actions, softening ground targets with a kinetic bobmbardment before deploying overwhelming force, destroying our objective and then retriving our forces to Orbit. With this approach, we shall starve the xenos of vital ressources, industry and agricultural products, making a planetside victory a possibility and making us able to Hold the Planet possible."Use Kinetic bombardment (throwing rocks from orbit) to destroy or soften up vital areas of the Xenos, where after we deploy our forces to completely obliterate the target and then retrieving them and doing the same once more, until victory is assured.(Ps: Why does my ID keep changing? i am in the same building, god damnit.)
>>5077715Different WIFI sources?
>>5077715support
>>5077728Perhaps, it is a really big building.
>>5077788As big as our toaster erections?
>>5077715We cant just recall the titans, there are massive amounts of resources and logistics to reclaiming them and then deploying them again.So I support the concept of orbital supremacy and bombardment, but also twin it with>Make 2 beachheads
>>5077715+1
>>5077914i mean, we kind of can recall the titans by setting up designated points of retrieval, but i can see what you mean, as it would take a fairly long time to achieve it.
>>5077832I mean, it is over 30 meters high, so if our toasters are that erect, then we might need to go to an apothacary.
>>5077715Support>>5077914I would agree with you, if the Titan Legion of Lucius wasn't the teleporting one.
>>5077951I mean, there is a difference between normal Titans and that of Legio Astorum. Normal Titans don't Teleport.
>>5077980Hey QM, has Lucius already adopted the Martian dark red and markings, or has the Inculta Schism not happened and it's still only cream and dark with a divergent iconography?
>>5077980oh yeah, it does teleport.... i had forgotten that.
>>5077985The later, the color change comes after Mars sent a series of nukes to blow up Lucius during a Mechanicus Based hersey. However you guys can chance that once you meet up with Mars.
>>5077987Yeah, I think its this one: Inculcata SchismI'm pretty sure it was less of Lucius joining in the heresy, and more Mars was Jealous of Lucius since they are basically a better Mars at this point. The only things Mars had was is proximity to Terra and all the knowledge it had, which was lost during the Death of Innocence.
>>5077995Maybe with TalOS being from Lucius, Mars will end up becoming a first among equals rather the center of the Machine Cult.Although that could lead to even more heresies, cults and disagreements, and the mechanicus is already a mess as is.We are going to think things through when we get to it.
>>5075159>Even a Primarch's flesh is but paper against the insane creations of the Mechanicus. Kastelan Robots for example have a toughness of 7 while Guilliman has only a 6, meaning they are many times tougher than a Primarch. Yeah its the Table Top but GW tries their best to make their Table Top kinda lore accurate.In Star Wars the Old Republic there's this quest where your sith master sends you to gank another sith lord in his office, and you can do it only because this particular sith lord is more machine than man, and you have EMP grenades. He may be a good duelist with his cybernetic body functional, but what's left of his body is very weak when it comes to the living force.Unless your robot limbs work like Tetsuo's arm, you're weakening the Primarchs, who are much more than mere flesh golems, they were made to rule the material and the immaterial.
>>5077461>>A single strike zone!
>>5078001Thats wrong, and Good old Iron hands boy proves that when his hands defy fucking logic at what he can do.
>>5078001If you dont think that a high level preist in the Mechanicus is EMP shielded then you severely underestimate their competence.Cheap parts are for servitors, we're rolling in with Gucchi.
>>5078155Part of me wants to crack the secret of necrodermis.And another is reeeing at the heresy of studying xenotech.
>>5078001This is part of why I abstained from voting; this *is* a story about a Mechanicus Primarch who is destined to reunite the Children of the Omnissiah as it's Chosen. Refusing augmentation is a little like not partaking of communion in an old Irish Catholic Church. You can do it, but you're gonna make a lot of people around you upset and angry.But at the same time, yeah. Already a demi-god with absolutely bullshit capabilities that will only get stronger as TalOS grows and experiences more. There's very little that the broad swathe of the Cult Mechanicus can offer that can best a Primarch.>>5078155To be fair, there's plenty of suggestion that the monster whose remains coated Ferrus' hands was very much Not Fucking Normal(tm).>>5078168> Screw your weird alien shit! I'm gonna make my own living metal body! With blackjack! And hookers!
>>5078170>To be fair, there's plenty of suggestion that the monster whose remains coated Ferrus' hands was very much Not Fucking Normal(tm).Pretty sure that thing was a Tomb Stalker.
>>5078001>Unless your robot limbs work like Tetsuo's arm, you're weakening the Primarchs, who are much more than mere flesh golems, they were made to rule the material and the immaterial.And thinking like that is likewise, underestimating baseline Mechanicus technology. Let alone PRIMARCH Mechanicus technology. I mean, the majority of regular baseline admech shit is EMP proofed. Mortarion, Lorgar, and many others have flesh which is capable of resisting flesh melting and flesh paralyzing forces. Yes, their flesh is strong. But if you don't think that we, the Emperors brainchild of technology, cannot create something comparable to that then you underestimate us like every other mortal who has ever encountered a primarch, and the Emperor who has given us this mind to do these things.It is also an objective fact that even Ferrus commented he and his sons will be WEAKER if they let go of their cybernetics to be flesh again. But at the same time, he recognized he can't do that while there's a war going on even as much as he wants to.We aren't trading our flesh to some two bit laymechanic. We aren't even permanently getting rid of it. We are exchanging it for superior alternatives and different abilities. Doubt not what the Emperor has provided for us in the power of our mind.
Once again there are those who question our faith in the Machine Gods tenantsI pray in our new arm, QM shows us the strength and surety of steel, how our Omnissiah blessed gifts were given unto us to prove that we can create something superior to that of our natural born flesh. Even that of a primarch, because what has replaced it was crafted by a primarch.because seriously whats the point of playing the mechanicus primarch if we can't do what even a humble tech priest can do, create something objectively better than his own body
>>5078308Be like Shirou with Machine Spirits and trace them with a psykik pulse, romance Machine Spirits, bring out the true potential of Machine Spirits like the Speranza https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Ark_Mechanicus#Speranza to access AoT stuff...
>>5078168>And another is reeeing at the heresy of studying xenotech.It isn't heresy if its blessed by the Emperor and if we become ArchmagosJust look at Daddy's totally not Eldar webway but perfectly human techOr his scary wicked Psionic TitansJust get Emperors permission "Father I seek to rid the Galaxy of the menace that is the Necrons. And also conveniently rediscover some STCs."
>>5078314I.... I don't think we should romance the Machine Spirits, 'cause we're not technophiles... or slaaneshi worshippers.
>>5078324https://youtu.be/qIU5_GCNL8Q
>>5078315Well, what we could do is observe how and why Xenotech works and then apply STC principles to these technologies, which would, in a sense, "purify" them of all the corruptive influence that the Xenos have had on the tech. After all, while the path of Xenotech leads to damnation, Understanding how Xenotech works and then applying it to the ways of the STC is a most rightious and honorable way to bring glory to the Omnissiah. For what greater feat is there, than to turn the Perverted "Truth" into the Pure "Truth".("Truth" in this case being knowledge)
>>5078327... Should this make me feel sorry for the perverted creature that Humanity calls "V-tubers"? for if so, then know that i see them as nothing but creatures of degeneracy and sin who, with their foul acts of thottery, turn the Machine away from its True path and into the grasp of Discord.
>>5078340It's the song from the movie "Her" where Scarlet Johansson the OS has a relationship with 642 people.
>>5078343... as i said, degeneracy.
>>5078315What the Enperor wants, thinks and does is meaningless, for he has no faith. Only the Omnissiah chosen by the Machine God and the Motive Force is to be followed, and he isn't him. We are the mechanicus primarch, not the kissass primarch, that one is Lorgar.I like the other anon's idea to make our own version necrodermis, untainted by a xeno's touch. Better to have our nanites be their own thing rather than just stealing Ferrus Manus' thing.
Where do the Jokaero and Squats factor into the Machine Faith?
>>5078380Squats are considered abhumans, so their tech probably is alright.Jokaero tech seems to be treated the same way as Port Maw, Blackstone Fortress (or noctolith overall) and Ferrus Manus necrodermis hands, obviously xeno made, but reffited to use human technology and tolerated, although mostly used by the more radical members.
>>5078366I would want that too.But there's absolutely nothing wrong with copying someone elses work at least. We don't have to use the very same necrodermis, but we can swipe their blueprints.Just like the ones for Inertialess engines
>>5078385We can just pretend the Jokaero are ancient human DAOT shenanigans.Maybe we can use our brilliant Xeno Biologis mind to be the first being to successfully interact with and communicate with them.
>>5078334I agree with this wholeheartedly.
>>5078315>Imagine valuing the word of a dirty heathen non believer over the might, truth, and holy strength of the machine GodWhile big E may have done great things and is one of if not the best gentor alive, he is ultimately a nonbeliever and so is not to be trusted. He doesn't even believe in the glory of the machine God and so must be watched carefully
>>5078411>>5078380>>5078385I think it also helps that the Inquisition/Mechanicus believe the space orangutans to simply be replicating the ancient technology ingrained into their very genetic structure by the ever-so-mysterious Old Ones (not unlike Orks), they are entirely non-Warp based (so no random matrix-devouring Daemon-code), and that Jokaero only ever *really* act violently out of self-defense or starvation like any other primitive animal.Just build them a big monkey arbor/gymnasium filled with fruit trees and occasionally wheel in scrap for them to play with, then haul it out and give it to specifically licensed Artisans to figure out.
Anyone wanna conjecture on possible weapons we can invent for ourselves?I want to load us up like a walking armory and give Vulkan a run for his money in the weapons crafting business.
>>5078426https://youtu.be/7FXrWFSMGjA>>5078411I think that one kid in the 40k Adventures books could do it, we could take a look at what he does. Though, Jokaero probably have translators that probably do the job.>>5078449Well, homing missiles from Jet Force Gemini are pretty good. Homing bolter?Ooh, from that game there's also that shuriken that can fly and hit any targets you pinpoint with an Auspex.
>>5078449Personally, i would want for us to get our hands on some Melta weapons and then doing our best to make them as small and powerful as possible (so that we can conceal and carry them wherever we are). Even if that would make it so the weapon only had one shot, it could be very useful, after all, not much can standing being atomized and vitrified at the same time.Another possibility is Volkite weaponry, a bit basic yes, but it has a good deal of range, stopping power and ammunition (it only uses energy to fire, after all). If we wanted to go really crasy, we could have a set of armour that incorporated an "over-the-shoulder" Volkite Culverin which we personally made/improved upon.
>>5078458To add to this, i don't think we should go after Plasma weaponry, for while it is very powerful, it is not the most efficient weapon to have when it comes to the battlefield (yes, this also goes for Melta weapons, but they are in my mind, much more deadly when used unseen, compared to Plasma). This also leads me to a very important thought i had, that being Logistics.Right now, we have the support of a Forge world, a place where there is no lack in ressources, be that ammunition or skilled labor. This is not something we will always have in the future, even in the best of times it might be hard make our supply "trains" efficient or consistent. I therefore suggest that we find/make a weapon that has a much smaller effect on our logistics while still being on-par with the standard weapons we have now. A possible solution to this would be a simplified Volkite weapon (a scaleable variant would be best, but maybe not possible), after all, there is a reason why the Space Marine Legions converted to Bolters and why the most prolific weapon in the Imperial Guard is a Lasgun.What do you huys think?
>>5078471Trains.
>>5078453As much as possible, I would like us to eschew kinetic or material based weapons. The true form of the Motive Force lies in energy weapons imo. Especially because with energy weapons ammo capacity is less an issue and the books are loaded with primarchs running out of ammo. Now, if we can develop ourselves an energy to ammunition sythesizer I would be likely to entertain it.>>5078458Concealed stuff is good, but I gather in our full on battle form we're going to be a big bloody spidery thing with arms like Ferrus Manus or Cawl. So think "This is TalOS loaded for bear" type situation.Vokite is definitely something we should get. From what I gather, comparing Volkites to Meltas are like comparing Tau Plasma to Imperial Plasma. Volkites can produce more rapid fire, relatively speaking, but meltas are tank bustingly powerful. Developing our own form of heat based weapon like Cawl or better still disintegrator weapon would be good in the long run.>>5078471Abso-fucking lutely. I want our boys to be shiny with their energy weapons, preferring to eschew bolters. They're a better weapon for fighting such foes as the Hrud for example. Gearing our planet to be the best damn Volkite manufacturer in the galaxy would be based. As for us, I do believe we should consider strapping a very large energy source to our back. Perhaps a small fusion reactor. Think Proton Pack or Hellgun style, so we have:-More energy weapon shots-Can charge higher powered weaponsOur sons could emulate this. I gather our space marines could be each and everyone, tech marines or near as close as it gets, with multiple backpack arms just like us for all sorts of weapons.As for a big weapon, I think a shoulder mounted Torsion Cannon would be cool. Shred tanks, walls, and enemies by twisting space itself. The best can opener there is.
>>5078560With a TalOS(tm) pattern improved Torsion Cannon we can stop a charging warboss Darth Vader style, and then watch him crumple as he's twisted in three different directions.
I'd love if our personal hobby were to find or recreate DAoT era ray guns. At least the kind daddy won't confiscate for his golden guys. Vulkan has his hammers, his armor, his melee weapons and a thousand other artefacts. We have a more more straightforward collection.This should totally be our battle theme whenever we show up to fight:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2-32q4AE-k&t=152s
>>5077707Idea needs to be modified, but its in the right place that is for sure. >>5078334What is Tech Heresy? Well that will need to be determined, as the Machincus is still relatively young compared to its 40k counterpart. These are some ideas I cooked up, but until you guys consult your fellow Tech Priests and determine it via legislation the Quest won't have a strict definition. These are probably the things that would be reviewed by the boards on Lucius. > 1. Must be STC Compatible. If its not then there is no reason to make it because the machine would be too difficult to massproduce. > 2. Cannot harm the Machine Spirit. Harming the Machine Spirit is the greatest of all sins. Thats the reason EMPs are not used often as the Mechanicus probably sees them as the greatest heresy of all. > 3. Does not manipulate or is powered by warpstuff.This is probably a doctrine in 40k and not 30k, since the Tech Priests barely know how dangerous the Warp even is. They only know it will kill you if you step out of line. As for the reason this is here, well, its pretty obvious anything using the Warp is influenced by Chaos. Traveling through or disabling it, Teleportation and Gellar Fields, are allowed because they do not directly employ Warp Energy. >>5078560It seems like everyone is wanting to go energy guns. I will say, lore wise, the main issue with Volkite was that they were hard to create. If you, say, made them easier to be created, it would be easy to outfit a legion with them. Probably not all of them, but a good amount of them.
>>5078605>If you, say, made them easier to be created, it would be easy to outfit a legion with themWhy, that would take a mechanical genius the likes the galaxy has scarcely seen in humanity for a long time. Dare I say, it would take the mind of a demigod of technology, and a scion of the Omnissiah itself. A superhuman above the means of even accelerated mortal intellect.I wonder who fits that description
>>5078605Also LasTechnology is highly modifiable and ubiquitous across the Imperium. There's like a hundred different variants and even non-tech priests and soldiers can (illegal) modify their lasguns. No one has yet tried to bridge the gap between infantry lasguns and vehicular or shoulder mounted las cannons. Perhaps for those marines and scouts who are not able to be equipped with a Volkite, we can try to make a very powerful lasgun scaled up for a space marines usage that has the same oomph as a bolter.Why do this instead of bolters? Because fucking energy weapons, that's why.Could even consult laser and photon specialist cults like the Sollex who made the "Death Light" Lasgun varianthttps://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Divine_Light_of_SollexThe higher in rank our sons get, the stronger energy weapons and the more augments they are provisioned for.
>>5078612Not us because big e isn't the Omnissiah
>>5078620Titus uses a lascannon as a sniper rifle.
>>5078622Yeah, it's obviously going to be created J0HN MK4FFE as his indocrination into the artisans, since we are the Omnissiah and all. Big E should be treated like a king and father of god, nothing more. Kind of like Mary in catholicism thinking of it.
>>5078628Yes but it has limited charge and fires slowly.Maybe we can pull off a Hellgun and just have a backpack attachement, and possibly some cryocooling tech, so they can sustain automatic fire (or even continuous beam fire)>>5078622Even if so I'd still argue we're one of the best technicians in the Imperium alongside of proto-Cawl, the current archmagos, and UR-025 who is straight up an AI inhabiting a man of iron body.
Can a servitor look like BB-8 one day?
>>5078643Only if you use the body of Samus Aran as the base.But than it would have to be destroyed for being corrupted by Disney forces of the warp.
>>5078646Its not that bad. All it will try to do is buy out the entire Mechanicus.
>>5078641First of all cawl is not cannon and second I agree we are probably one of the best
>>5078646https://youtu.be/l-KufsWapS4>>5078647Are Heartless and Nobodies daemons of Malice?
>>5078651Is Mickey Mouse an avatar of the Great Horned Hat?
>>5078653https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP7p42vOZbg
>>5078653Dude...Donald is Tzeentch for sure, but is Goofy Nurgle or Khorne?
>>5078655Oh wait, the answer's neither...https://youtu.be/8NZU55UE0e0
>>5078620I love Sollex AdMech so much, played a multiyear Inquisimunda campaign set on Fenksworld a while back. and they were one of the main Imperial factions.
>>5078655Khorne, no questions.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYFhzQYKnwI
allright so, i have been doing a bit of Lore digging and researching a bit of atomic- and nuclear theory and i think i can say, with some confidence, that Volkite weaponry is a from of Isotropic weapon that spreads evenly in all kinds of material (in the form of heat), so not technically a Laser weapon nor a "Pure" Thermal weapon.The same applies to Melta's. The lore states it is a form of Plasma based weapon that uses the resulting heat to cook things alive, but it acts much more like a high-powered Microwave gun (which the Lore states the bigger variants are, but it applies to all of them). This doesn't really explain the need for the special fuel mixture, but i think it could be fanwanked as a way to generate the needed power.Anyway, the reason why i am saying this that these weapons are lacking something that i thought they had... Radiation.So, i think that if we want to make a very unique weapon for ourselves, we make a ourselves an ACTUAL direct energy weapon that uses radiation, like MARAUDER (Magnetically accelerated ring to achieve ultrahigh directed energy and radiation).What we need to do, is make use of some of those advanced materials that the Mechnicus of this age has, and create (what i can best describe as..) a Direct Energy And Radiation accelerator (DEARa), basically a Radgun but using Plasma!Should be pretty easy to make too, since we have a real world example of it.
>>5078682How about a gravity gun or a gun that causes seismic activity / volcanic eruptions?>>5078666https://youtu.be/cN2XtxMal_s
>>5078686i mean, you don't NEED a gun to cause seismic activity, just throw a big enough object at something like a planet and it will wreak havoc upon the surface, as the force (Energy) of the object will overturn continental plates and make waves in the magma seas which the plates float on. (This is why most scientists who has a focus related to space are Piss scared of Asteroids, cause a big one can basically kill everyone on the planet)
>>5078686> that causes seismic activity / volcanic eruptionsSounds like Quake CanonsNot sure how that would be useful on a personal scale>>5078682There are already rad weapons in the Imperiums arsenal we can try to modify. For planets we intend to make Forgeworlds rather than Agriworlds out of.https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Rad_WeaponAlsohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id9c5PiJ9KY
>>5078699Radiation seems like it'd fit in nicely with the atrocities the Legion commits.
>>5078702Its not attrocities if its planned terraformation for forge world capability!
>>5078699you know, a Phosphex sprayer sounds like a Great(terrible) idea! Mount that on a specialized Skitarii and we have us a Desolator.Could actually be useful.
>>5078706>>5078707https://youtu.be/ncmzgkVz9KIFallout gas!
>>5078708man, now i wanna think of ways to make more radiation weapons
>>5078715I make an exception to material munitions if they are tacnukes or micro atomic. Because at least those are fission/fusion weapons wrapped up in a metal shell.Maybe we can develop microatomic bolter rounds.Also there's the far more common Radium weapon types used by the Skitariihttps://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Radium_Weapons
Legion Name: Vape Bombers -> Radical Spirits
>>5078725well, if we want a clean tactical weapon, then we could use splinterglass canisters/missile heads filled with antimatter.
>>5078728Wouldn't antimatter eat all the matter a planet has?
>>5078729no.... that's not how antimatter works.How it works is that (for example) an antimatter Helium atom reacts with a Regular matter Helium atom, colliding with each other they destroy themselves and release a great amount of energy.So to remove an entire planet's worth of matter, you would have to have an equal amount of antimatter.... Which would make a VERY big boom.
>>5078732Okay... so antimatter is less scary than matter disruption.https://enderverse.fandom.com/wiki/Molecular_Disruption_Device
>>5078734Holy shit, that might be how the Ar'Ka Cannon worked, if we can get the expansion field to leave metals alone. Anything watery or gassy is getting disrupted though. Huh, if we could actually find one of these, that would also clean-up gas on planetary environments, though the blast area would need a faraday cage to keep it from swallowing the planet.
>>5078738>faraday cage
This is kinda genius, you all gotta admit>>5077715>>5077774>>5077975>>5077934Two at a time>>5077479>>5077548>>5077551>>5077914>>5077972A single strike Zone>>5078062Hmm, if we get a change in votes in the next 15 minutes I will recognize the genius idea. I'm just sad its too drastic of a change for it to be employed piecemeal.
>>5078734oh yeah, it is WAY less scarier than a device that destroys the bonds between particles. THAT SHIT is REALLY fucking scary.Something even scarier than that though is Black holes, nothing escapes those bastards.. Nothing.
>>5078741Oh shit, you loike my idea?Thanks bro.
>>5078741>This is kinda genius, you all gotta admitYeah, but I'm dumb and couldn't understand the words.
>>5078743A hit and run using teleporters is exactly how Lucius won against the Tyranids in 40k. Since you guys have teleporter troops it can be done to devistating effect.
>>5078744We drop big rock on xeno, then we drop big titan on xeno and then we get away and do it again.I call this maneuver... Titanfall
>>5077461I am>Supporting>>5077715
>>5078746Okay!>>5078741Supporting.
Shits about to become War of the Beast level shenanigans>>5078744
>>5078757oh, i don't know about that... Unless we have a couple of moonbases that you didn't tell us about?
>>5078760No, unless you decide to throw their own moon into the planet.
>>5078738Hmm, to contain the MD Effect, we could put those Neutron Jammers from Gundam Seed on a planet to make a net of "Electron Go." But instead of N-Jammers, they'd be E-Juvenators.But doubtful we'd ever find devices that miraculous.
>>5077715Switching to this
>>5078763Maybe if we had a net of big Thermoplasma Generators sucking energy from the core of a planet, then wired all those generator's energy to an Ark in orbit with an MD device mounted on it, then there could be a much cleaner Exterminatus where only a fraction of a planet becomes Venus.
>>5078766Exterminatus is always a last choice action and should never be done without reason.Good idea though, don't know if the tech for it to work exists in 40k, but i am sure we could figure something out.
By the way, if we ever encounter those vile Warp Xenos or any other Empyreal foes again, I propose we develop a specialist energy weapon just for them.It's simply really, we just use a dedicated microreactor hooked up to a cyclotron to create a stream of pure protons that is directed by an neutrally charged neutrino-wand to aim a beam of positive energy against the otherwise negative psychic energy that denizens of the warp seem to be made out of
>>5078770Depends on the type of exterminatus.Virus bombing a mineral rich planet of no population value in order to build a no-atmosphere forge world. Especially if the population is adamantly resistant to compliance.Although, I suppose an effort should be made to servitorize such populaces.
>>5078777Nice trips!I haven't read that these "warp beasts" were made out of negative psychic energy. Hell i thought they were beings of entropy, since the warp has been described several times as being a plane of pure entropy.(i do know that they primarily feed on negative/strong emotions)
>>5078777>>5078786I think he's thinking of a different series. Though Anti-Daemon weapons can probably be made with Black Stone based energy weapons like the Caullexus.
>>5078777>>5078786Reminds me of this: https://youtu.be/Nv9wXt81xDw?t=838
>>5078789my eyes... they suffer.
>>5078792https://youtu.be/RahqytWCjpM>>5078770Well, hopefully we can find some tech that can produce an MDP (Molecular Disruptive Pulse) before the blue cows just up and make it.Now, should iron insulate organic material from the Pulse, or conduct the pulse?
>>5078786Its part jestbut part of me hopes it actually works because, the Realm of Souls has been fucked for millions of years since the War in Heaven and is absolutely saturated with bad emotions and negativeness.That's why Khorne is a bloodthisrty monster with minimal honorable tendenciesSlaanesh is torturous, perverse and debased rather than a bringer of joy and freedomTzeentch is pure contradictory ambition and treachery instead of knowledge and wisdomAnd Nurgle is disease and decay instead of life and hearth>>5078788Yeah I suppose regular Null tech could work, but the problem with that is it might go against Fathers directive not to engage in developing psyker tech without his personal sanction. In fact there was a famous event where the Black Ships tried to gather many blanks and even modify them to fight warp sensitive enemies, it caused a shadow in the warp to form across Terra, and the Emperor basically had to step in and stop it.
>>5078801He can't stop what he does not know. Also its kinda in character for TalOS to do try his fucking best to fuck up Psykers, since they, to him, are heathens.
>>5077715+1Or is the vote over now?
>>5078804All the more reasons to kill necrons and gank their psyker nullifying shit and steal the secret of the Pariah gene from them.QM is it within the realm of reasonability that, maybe even late game or far into the quest, we might unlock the secrets of Inertialess drive? Being able to not be crippled by Warp storms would be cool.
>>5078812I don't see how an Inertialess Drive would help against Warpstorms. As for being able to be immune to Warp Storm based nonesense, things approaching Dark Age Tech is going to take a good while to build and prepare, but can be done.
TalOS thought to himself, processing through the numerous calculations on what can be done and what kinds of offenses can be taken. Here they were stuck with little amounts of forces and anything they did would not crimple their forces. Fortifying a position would only mean the enemies would be drawn upon them. TalOS blinked for a moment as he thought about their situation a little more. Since the Xenos were primitive spell castings fools they were incapable of having a true presence in space. That was the reason they were employing spires to attack Lucius. So really, why wouldn’t they take advantage of space itself? Why wouldn’t they abuse their own ability to teleport their forces!?Arch Dominus TalOS: I have a plan, submitting the details now. Instead of making a warfront upon the planet we do hit and run tactics to squash their forces. Even if our personal bombardment cannons cannot pirce their shields, that does not mean we cannot use the local astroids to our advantage. Arch Magos ADM1N: TalOS, are you suggesting that we throw asteroids at the world?Arch Dominus TalOS: Why of course, I have already started the scanning of the local rocks and determined several that are likely to cause mass deviation and are easy to get to. Thanks to the planet’s location, it would only take a few weeks for the rocks to arrive upon the planet. Dux Dominus AL3X: Estimating, likelihood of Asteroids breaching their defences 85% per rock. Arch Magos is this even possible!?There was a moment’s lul as the two attempted to certify TalOS’s calculations. TalOS was simply seated in his chair as he looked over the command bridge for those who were running his own calculations. Many of them looked either distraught, completely bewildered, or somehow smiling from cheek to metal plate. This was the kind of reaction TalOS expected but none could deny it. Arch Magos ADM1N: Arch Dominus TalOS, I can confirm your findings. We must start immediately if we are to take advantage. Arch Dominus TalOS: I thank you, Arch Magos. And what is your opinion, Dux Dominus AL3X?Her line was quiet for a minute. She was likely stunned at the sheer insanity the plan had. However: Dux DOminus AL3X: I confirm this task. Arch Dominus TalOS: Thank you, all of you. Deus Mechanicus!
>>5078814Warpstorms disrupt conventional warp travel. Because traveling around in them is stupid and just asking for the Gellar Field to fail within 5 minutes ago.Now, with an Inertialess Drive, that doesn't matter. We pick our destination, and our ship yeets itself in that direction.Also it allows for some fun ramming shenanigans like going from 0 to top speed in an instant or from top speed to 0 without everyone smashing their head against a wall.
The movements of the two near skeletal ships would be odd to an outside observer. Normally ships like this would either be sent back home or be kept close to the fleet in order to be kept safe. However, their exiting of the planet’s orbit was all part of the plan. Being that their destination was so close the Voidships were able to arrive at their destination within only a few minutes. The warp closed behind them as the ships studied the asteroids. The area they had arrived in was an asteroid belt that was semi-close to the planet of the Plastoids. Likely the real reason they had those shields in the first place. Still, the matter of fact was that these shields were designed for smaller rocks. They were nothing if the stones were the size of the city themselves. At this moment there was a precision that needed to happen. The steady aim of the Bombardment cannons and how much ammunition to even use. If this was off by even the smallest bit the asteroids would miss, or worse, hit the fleet currently in orbit. These were Mechanicum Vessels though. If there was anyone capable of doing such a precise action it would be them. A series of shots were rang out by the ships, each of them slamming into the rocks in just a way that the Asteroid itself would be relatively unscathed. With each action comes an equal and opposite reaction, as the fabled Magos Newton said so long ago, which is what the Arch Dominus was counting on. The rocks began to move, slowly at first, but then they began to move faster as faster with each barrage of cannon fire being laid into them. This was done not just to one rock but almost a dozen others causing them to travel through space in a perfect arc. A Primach’s scheme made reality, around two dozen rocks were sent flying towards the Plastoid homeworld. Based on several calculations the attack would take roughly two weeks for them to make an impact against the planet. The Mechanicum however had plenty of time, for the defences on the ground did not matter if they were smashed by a demi-god declaring rocks would fall upon them.
+I truly hope your scheme works, Arch Dominus TalOS.+ Declared Arch Magos ADM1N as he watched the remote feed from the bridge of the Onus Probandi. In the time they had been waiting for the ships to prepare their bombardment, those close to the planet were connecting to one another to equal out resources and prepare. It was something to do after all since the rocks would take time to slam upon the planet. +You have done the calculations yourself, Arch Magos. No matter what you think of reality, this is the one we are in. An unorthodox enemy requires unorthodox actions.+ Arch Dominus TalOS answered as they watched the traveling of exactly 36 asteroids go through space. +I have the files on what you plan for our forces, both Titans and your Acillian, would do right after the dropping. I did realize that something else needs to be determined. Yourself.+ The Arch Magos put forward as he looked at TalOS in the eyes, +I think it would be paramount for Particep Semper to walk.+ TalOS felt a small chill go down his spine as well as a small flare going up in his gut. The mere suggestion of walking was enough to get a rise out of the Titan connected to TalOS. However this should not be thought of as an attack on TalOS. The Arch Magos knew exactly what he was suggesting with those words. +It is a vital mission, and it will make the enemy thing we are throwing a lot more at them then we are.+ Suggested the Magos. +You’re suggesting we use Particep Semper as bait?++They know of his might.+ The Magos answered as he sent TalOS a series of records, +I have identified another person, Dominus D3X, who would be capable of leading your sons into battle. However the Mitarii AL4N seems capable enough by himself. Either way, my idea is to have you be one of the first Titans to land upon the planet.+ +Do we have any Drop Pods that can hold Particep?+ +Only the one upon your ship.+ Admitted the Magos, +Unorthodox enemies means we must use unorthodox solutions.+ >Head down to battle with your sons>Trust Dominus D3X>Trust Mitarii AL4N>Use the drop pod.
>>5078821>Use the drop pod.Time for walkies!
>>5078821>Trust Mitarii AL4N>Use the drop pod.D3X is capable, but he less familiar with the Acillia than AL4N, if this was the regular troops, I would trust this task to him.Also this may serve a the greastest test to prove that our sons can operate as something other than just upgraded skitarii.
>>5078821>>Head down to battle with your sonsBe nice to kick ass now and again
>>5075231I just realized that the final fight against armstrong is after you destroy the metal gear he was piloting.Just like we pilot Particep Semper. MGR is a fucking memetic hazard.
>>5078821>Trust Mitarii AL4N>Use the drop pod.
>>5078821>Trust Dominus D3X>Use the drop pod.It's just me or MC's second in command want to be in charge, so badly that he suggested to use a valuable machine and a FUCKING Arch Dominus as a bait? You don't use the army general as a bait if situation is not dire. You don't use the asset with most firepower in the army if the situation is not dire. And you absolutely don't use it them both as a bait even if situation is dire.And it's not. So, who want to use this precious second in command arch magos as ammunition?
>>5078821>Trust AL4N>Use the pod.
Rad weapons are not that bad, especially with their special rule. Essentially very good anti-flesh flamethrowers.
>>5079169Absolutely they are fine, and residual radiation isn't an issue depending on the goal of the planet. Plus 40k does have radscrubbers. Our boys should have a mix of all energy weapon types.I just have a partiality for Disintegration weapons cause I do believe they are the beat all end all of energy weapon types. Just like Dad does, he loved them so bad he confiscated all the Adrathic types for the custodes because they were good. But the mechanicus still makes their own variant via Eradiaction Beamers even if they are bulkier compared to Adrathics.
>>5079169I prefer energy wrapons because they go pew pew.Also fuck the Children of Atom in FO4 and their annoying rad guns
>>5079169Hey QM, would this be a decent enough simple template for keeping track of TalOS awesome body mods and weapons? Its nice to be able to visualize
>>5079189Missing the codpiece there.
>>5078804Also if we are truly anti-psyker we obviously are going to speak up at NiceaI wonder if we're going to be the ones to rediscover the Valrian Device. It's STC anti-psyker tech so its not heresy!
>>5079194Agreed, we could do with a toast attachment there. It would help turn the toaster on
Having read both the Perturabo and the Ferrus Manus books, while Perty is certainly impressive in his scientific and technical knowledge (such as developing a harness to wirelessly control his own ship via his mind) he does not seem to share a love for the machine. He also actively disdains the Admech for their superstitious religion, and sees them only as a means to an end (like all things). He would most assuredly look down on us for our faith in the Machine God.Meanwhile, Ferrus is more a mechanic. He might not have the scientific prowess of Pert, but he has very good engineering acumen and an actual, genuine love for the machine "feeling every circuit and conduit" of his proud flagship. His mental narration speaks of someone who shows empathy and understanding of the forges of Medusa, and he has a good respect for the Admech such as lamenting the loss of half a demi legion of god machines by an Ultramarines ill fated attack. He listens well to his mechanicum adviser too.This leads me to believe that while Perturabo's scientific knowledge may be superior (he has his own robot legion built by him for example), it is in Ferrus we would more readily find a brother who adheres to the care and understanding of the machine and the machine spirit.HOWEVER I also believe that Ferrus would disdain our wilfull forgoing of our own flesh for steel. . .even if that's exactly what his sons do. He might not do it openly, for the same reason he does not admonish his sons for choosing cybernetics, but he himself regrets his iron hands because they aren't really his hands. We should entreat both but kinda have to take this into account.
Drop pod and trust AL4N>>5078837>>5078859>>5078889>>5078914>>5079050>>5079782Another use the pod>>5079017Head down with your sons>>5078850
Oh, another drop pod. >>5078823
TalOS thought to himself as the two tried to figure out what the other was saying. Arch Magos ADM1N would truly not be thinking of sending the Primarch to his death. Did he want to be head of the Crusade by chance? TalOS simply shook his head at that idea. Surely he wanted to before but the Arch Magos’ words were sincere. There are few things you can hide with the tongue of the machine, and TalOS would be able to tell whether or not the Arch Magos was being against him. No, his plan was genuine. The scheme, if it was successful, would bring out the majority of the enemy. In tandem with what TalOS already had planned, it would be a crushing defeat of the Xenos. However TalOS would not abandon the chance to see the first battle of his sons. +I shall do as you ask, Arch Magos. I do however plan to be on the battlefield when my Sons teleport there.+ TalOS declared with a firm certainty, +I shall be taking a drop pod down.+ The Arch Magos studied TalOS for a moment as he was obviously thinking on those words said to him. In the end ADM1N gave a subtle nod as he relented, +I shall make sure the drop pod is up to specifications. It will need to burst through a regenerating Void Shield after all.+ +Thank you for the consideration. Now excuse me, for I must go visit my sons.+ As TalOS started to walk away he heard the words of Arch Magos ADM1N coming into his receivers, +Your family has grown large and powerful TalOS, and it is clear you lose them just like I would a Titan. However I ask you, be sure that this is a Crusade and that lives will be lost. Both Titan and Acillian.+ Those were odd words the Arch Magos spoke, but they were from the bottom of the Magos’ heart. Well whatever kind of metal tin can you can call a heart in a Tech Priest. Who knows what the Arch Magos had seen, for he was at least a few centuries old and probably seen a great many Titans lost. TalOS was much younger than him, and now he was an Arch Dominus at age 10. TalOS stopped his steps for a moment and scratched his head with his metal arm. By the Machine God he was young, capable but so young. What were the chances of him becoming a Fabricator General in the next Thirty Years? He wasn’t wishing for the death of the current one, of course, but damn. You’d think even being one as blessed as he, there would be some stops.
These were the thoughts that were occupying the mind of TalOS. What would you expect anyways, the sheer amount of calculations he gave to the war effort were finished and were redone several thousands of times to make sure they would work. These thoughts went from wondering his future, to the idea of future weapons of war. The Volkite Blaster was a mighty fine weapon but at the end of the day they were hard to manufacture. Yes once a Volkite was made it would take thousands of years to run out of power, but there must be something better than that…As the halls were barren and with little soldiers except for the occasional Acillian. Once could ever be too cautious when their enemy has the ability to teleport onboard the ship, and thanks to his Father’s latest designs the Acillians were the perfect force to oppose them. The Acillian have never truly fought together in a fight like this. Thanks to his training regiments they were all something of specialists and self capable people, but the Skitarii training they received would definitely be a start. He could not wait.This thought was the final one as he crossed into the Acillian Barracks and made his way into them. The numerous sons of TalOS stood up in respect of the man who created each and every one of them. Many of them had lives before becoming the Acillian, some even staying in contact with it, but they all had a new identity and role to play. +Thank you, you are all relieved.+ TalOS declared to them all as he crossed through the hall. Upon that declaration they all started to sit down and resumed their normal tasks. None of them paid TalOS much heed as they were used to their Father’s presence among them. After all, TalOS was not a deadbeat Father. It did not take long but the Primarch soon arrived at the door of the Mitarii, the highest among his sons. He did not need to do anything to the doors such as knocking since they opened on their own. Either the Machine Spirits were especially kind to TalOS, or AL4N quickly got word that he had arrived.
Walking into the place TalOS noted it was not an actual office or Cogitator room that a Magos would have, but instead an armory. Ranging from Autoguns to Volkite Blasters this place was jammed packed with them. Each and every one of these were created by the hands of the Acillians or Tech Priests who were assisting the Acillians. At the center of them all standing at attention was the Acillian Mitarii AL4N. In his hand was a cogitator with what TalOS quickly identified was a bunch of information related to the legion. From just a glimpse TalOS noted rates of accuracy, ability, technical knowledge, and even their mental affinity. +At ease, AL4N.+ TalOS declared to him as he found a nice size ammo box and brought it up, +I take it you could not take all the noise of your brothers?+ The Mitarii was taken off guard for a moment before giving a subtle nod, +Indeed that is the case Father. The armory is also the most comfortable place to be doing work.+ +Something you learned from your youth?+ TalOS suggested with a sharp eye. The Acillian seemed stunned for a moment before shaking his head, +You read that off my report? It shames me to admit it but sometimes staring at Servitors for those long hours gave me a bit of an unnerving feeling. It was only after I became an Acillian did I realize what they were like and how much of a blessing of the Machine God they are.+ TalOS thought to himself for a moment, then another moment more, +I had always known that fact, and now I feel a kind of shame for not fearing them.+ +You did not like the feeling? Father, there is no shame in knowing the glorious union of man and machine.+ Pointed out AL4N as he was obviously surprised at those words. +Yes but I never felt the fear of the Machine God himself bearing down upon me. Then again I was the foolish little child who decided to sneak into a Titan.+ +Is that how you ended up as a Princep?+ Asked AL4N half believing those words. +I have not lied to you AL4N, not once. Indeed it was how I started my path to becoming the Princep of Particep Semper.+ TalOS championed, +Ah, before we get too off topic I wanted to talk to you about the coming battle. I will be taking Particep Semper down to the ground, which means you will be put in control of the Acillians.+
The Mitarii was surprised but for a second after hearing those words, +You are not going to lead us to battle Father?!+ +I will be, AL4N, but not just for the Acillians.+ TalOS answered swiftly, +Particep Semper shall be dropped upon the world with the initial drop pods, making us the first to step upon the world. Your men and myself will act as the spear head, but the plan is to prepare the Beacons for the Teleporting of all the other Titans onto the planet below. From there, I shall lead everyone.+ With the explanation the sheer surprise the Acillian experienced washed away completely, +I understand. Father, I shall accept your delegation of authority! The Machine God shall not find me wanting!+ +I don’t think he ever would, however do not reject his offerings if they are given.+ Suggested TalOS with a small smirk on his face. >Help the Mitarii with the cohort assembling>Explore all the weapons that the Acillians had created>Go out and meet with your other sons.
>>5079894>All of these, get to the battle quicker
>>5079894>Explore all the weapons that the Acillians had created
>>5079894>Explore all the weapons that the Acillians had created>Go out and meet with your other sons.Get the weapons, and examine them together with their creators.
>>5079894>>Explore all the weapons that the Acillians had created>>Go out and meet with your other sons.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcR91mt18no
In other 40k related newsSpace Marine 2 reveal is out
>>5079894>>Go out and meet with your other sons.To confine our love to just one son is heretical. We must grow together as a family.
>>5079947Fucking Mandalore called it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IEAomO1Fac
>>5079894>Go out and meet with your other sons.We may never get another chance to know them after this and only feel regret when we missed the chance.
>Explore all the weapons that the Acillians had created
I still find the irony funny. The most human of the Primarchs is the one who was raised by a 'bunch of inhuman robot zealots'.Is it the augmentations bringing TalOS's emotional tendencies closer to human, sort of like how Tech Priests lose emotions when they augment way too much. Maybe its because TalOS is just a naturally kind soul and had good parents. Or maybe its because the Primarch is on a Forge World, so that means he grew up with people who were on intellectual parody with him, so he never really formed an Ego like the others. We will never know.
>>5080417I think it was because he's seen the might and awe inspiring powers, abilities, and reality of the Machine God and Particep Semper. He knows its true and there are greater things out there than him.
Here's some ideas the Acillia's symbols.
>>5079894>Explore the weapons>Meet your sons
>>5080694I love it. Though can we possibly get a 'Black and White' as well as a miniaturized version for an icon purpose?
>>5080694Also note the swords look kinda funny when put on a pure white background.
>>5081011Thankfully I still have the raw files, so I can black and white this no problem.The skull mechanicus is going to look shit though, half of it is g9ing to be eaten up.>>5081028I was unsure how to colour the sword, so I just went for the scheme terry used for the TempleOS logo, I can try to change it up a bitForgot to ask for opinions and ideas last post.
>>5081028Hey QM I'm trying to make some art of our Primarch himself but I'm unsure as to his loadout, what equipment he is wearing or attached.Same thing goes for our average son, what they look like and so forth.Attached is some unrelated to 40k art as example
>>5081204So Augmentations: > Right arm is replaced with a mix between a Bionic and kastelan robot. Essentially its a normal arm because a Primarch is that large. >A good half of his body is covered with metal plates, however most of this would be covered in the robes of the mechanicusWeapons: >Custom Auto-Pistol and Volkite Blaster, each made by one of his sons. >The Omnissian Axe, as awarded for his deeds defending LuciusThe pic is 'Buff Techpriest' by Bolter and Kokoro, which is how I imagine TalOS ultimately looking like. Very sleek, but obviously the toughest thing you have seen. As for his face, well he's an exact copy of Tyler Davis.
Having fun time with your sons and their guns>>5080708>>5079905>>5079900Guns>>5080275>>5079897Sons>>5080093>>5079949Lets get things done>>5079895
>>5081258Its also a no brainer he has Mechanrites and wires sticking out of him as well.
+I shall get back to my work right away Father.+ The Acillian said as he glanced at the datslate within his hands. +Well I will leave you to it.+ TalOS told his most favored son as he glanced about the room, +Though I wish to look around the room for a moment if you do not mind. I have not had time to see the most recent creations of your brothers.+ +I do not mind.+ Quickly shot the Acillian like a gun. TalOS simply shook his head at the words of AL4N, knowing full well it was just the quick reaction of the Acillian’s more human instincts. After all most of these men were roughly sixteen to twenty years of age. Their previous lives were not wiped from their memory which probably meant some of the more human tendencies were there. This was something TalOS counted on. He wanted his sons at the end of the day to be as unique as the Tech Priests they served. That decision meant that the Acillians would not be fashioned from a specific mold but instead become better or worse than their brothers at a variety of things. While the assistance of the entire Forge World would be needed to keep this going, well something that just caught TalOS’s eye proved to the Dominus that they were on the right path. It was behind a pair of Plasma Guns in such a way that they were all probably placed together. His eyes however could not miss something like that, and as he took out the Eradication Ray he realized the true value of the object. Studying the weapon he noted the fine artisanry of the weapon. It was encased in a steel shell with a series of platinum panelings meaning it would be extremely long lived. The coils were made from the structure of both steel and silver. Essentially the skeleton ribbed cages of steel would protect the delicate silver from harm, which made the weapon that much more reliable. Every measurement was perfect to the point TalOS would have mistaken its making by an Artisan. However to his trained eyes there was a severe lack of failsafes, ritual marks, and seals that an Artisan would have never forgotten about. No, this was made by an Acillian who must have somehow gained the knowledge from a secondary source. So with his curiosity upon him TalOS picked it up as well as the pair of Acillian made Plasma Guns. An Eradication Ray was something not a single Acillian could create, no, there must have been a group of them who made these weapons a reality.
Walking into the main room of the Acillian most of them were busying themselves with a variety of activities. Glancing to his right TalOS noted a group of them working on the Volkite Blasters that they were all issued. The wondrous smell of incense creeping into the Arch Dominus’s Senses as he glided past them. Maintenance was a necessity after all, and Volkite weapons were notorious for Skitarii simply lacking the ability to maintain them. The Acillians were much different than their more servitor-like brethren. To his left TalOS noted the series of Tactic Cogitators laid out upon the tables. These Acillian TalOS realized they had been training themselves in the art of war for some time. Since they could not go out and practice the art on mutants or eachother upon the Voidship, they have relegated themselves to a type of novel simulation. As TalOS walked by many of them glanced in his direction and went about their business. They might have been curious about the weapons that TalOS came out with or they were simply paying a bit of attention to their father. These were not the ones that TalOS wished to talk to at the moment. No, it was the pair currently doing maintenance whose eyes widened that smallest bit did TalOS wish to talk to. Within a few milliseconds did TalOS identify them, a Centarii named ED1SON and a simple Acillian named NIK0LA T3SLA. TalOS was aware of friendships being formed among his men, such a thing was natural, but between a Captain and a recently made Acillian of all things. With a welcoming smile TalOS walked up to them, +Centarii ED1SON, NIK0LA.+ Within a moment the two of them stood up and snapped to attention, glaring at the other like they caused this to happen. Something told TalOS this was how brothers would normally act when caught doing something wrong, but that remained to be seen.+Sit down.+ With that order the two of them sat, and since they were at the end of a table TalOS easily occupied the end. They still looked quite worried and did not take a single moment to relax. TalOS could not blame them since they had actually committed something of a fopa. TalOS was not that angry at them. No, as a Tech Priest he had recognized talent and would simply teach them a few lessons.
+An Eradication Ray is a very powerful weapon, capable of completely destroying an entire piece of aircraft in a single shot.+ TalOS began as he placed the weapon in front of him, +Because of this the weapon has a series of failsafes that prevent it from being destroyed in a malfunction.+ The two Acillian watched as the weapon was disassembled before their very eyes and innards laid bare. The two were looking close to sheepish as they watched what must have taken months of work be taken apart in near moments. The parts spread apart and laid bare to the world TalOS pointed at a piece of the weapon, +What is this coil here?+ +The Matter Conductor.+ Admitted NIK0LA as he looked upon it in shame, +It is where the superheated plasma is stored.+ +That is correct, and what is this here?+ +The Emitter Retina.+ Answered ED1SON, +It collects the light from the interior star.+ +And what happens if I pull this trigger?+ +The light that is collected is released.+ NIK0LA answered. TalOS nodded as he quickly drew on the table a small diagram, +You notice something that is missing from this Eradicator Ray?+ +Um, a switch that is attached to the activation wire.++And why is that switch not there?+ +Because it would disrupt the flow of energy!+ Declared NIK0LA as ED1SON’s own eyes widened. TalOS nodded as he thought about it, ED1SON seemed to have realized the mistake but NIK0LA probably hasn’t. He is quite young, but he needs to know the first thing about any form of divine firearm. >Demonstrate how a fickle Machine Spirit can fire itself, safely of course. >A lecture will be good enough>A live demonstration will be needed for this one. >Write in your punishmentFirst the bad, then the good. I was thinking of just going straight to another choice but I wanna see how you guys punish idiocy.
>>5081287>Demonstrate how a fickle Machine Spirit can fire itself, safely of course. Oh goddamnit, These two are gonna be pains in our loving fatherly asshole.
>>5081287>Demonstrate how a fickle Machine Spirit can fire itself, safely of course.>>5081011>>5081028Here's a new version. Don't know what you meant for a miniaturized version, so I made simpler versions that wouldn't lose much detail if scaled down.It accidentally ended up transforming the shield from looking like a roman republic to a hellenic greek one.
>>5081305Perfect, just perfect. Unless we get some complaints these might be used later.
>>5081258S W O L E
>>5081287>Demonstrate how a fickle Machine Spirit can fire itself, safely of course.>Tell them that they have great talent but recommended taking some lessons from the artisans especially safety lessons. > after all, I would hate to lose two of my sons to a preventable weapon mishap.
An auto-pistol as a side-arm, not even a bolt pistol? FAIL.We need bigger weapons. As a primarch, we should be able to use heavy weapons as a normal pistol or better. A plasma pistol or a melta one also work.As for the choice, how would the "demonstration" of the fickleness of a Machine Spirit work? Make it look like it will overload but deactivate it at the last second?
>>5081287>Demonstrate how fickle machine spirits can fire itself.
