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The void was a dark and cold place. A vast nothingness that only has meaning to those who are capable enough to comprehend its secrets. Such comprehension was being done by the numerous Magi and Machine Spirits assigned to the operation of the navigation systems.

What was produced by these Tech Priests was a string of code containing the optimal numbers for Warp Travel. These included but was not limited to the strength of the Warp Gate, the balance of the Gellar Field, and the amount of mental thoughts that the Skitarii were allowed to have in order to encourage a certain direction.

These calculations was something the Tech Priests of Forge World Lucius understood almost innately. Numerous experiments involving teleportation and the Warp had lead them to knowing so much more about the effects of Warp Based travel then most other Forge Worlds. Even with this benefit however they still had problems.

They had to travel in a series of jumps, each jump taking approximately six hours to complete. These were because the calculations given by the Magi gave an unacceptable margin of error once you got beyond 10 light years. These errors were not acceptable, especially when there was a tendency for spawning ships into one another and causing a catastrophic collusion.

The Warp was a dangerous place to humans, both mechanical and flesh alike. TalOS, as well as the entire Forge World of Lucius, knew this to be the case.

Currently hanging out in space were a total of Twelve sacred Void Ships. At the center of them all was the greatest ship of them all, the Ark Mechanicus Lucius that was told to be the progenitor of Forge World Lucius. Said ship had been awakened by order of the Fabricator General, currently being commanded by Arch Dominus J0LT. The Arch Dominus was also the head of the Plastoid Crusade, his command currently equal to any demands the Fabricator General would make.

From the Ark Mechanicus data was given via Data-Tether to each of the Subordinate Ships. Every time they exited the Warp the Ark Mechanicus would glare at the Plastoid’s Home World to gather as much information as they could.

After the Arch Dominus reviewed the information he created a several Giga-Byte review that detailed the potential attack plan and sent it to the other ships. These ships, with their Prime Dominus at its head, would review the information and make their own edits to send back to the Arch Dominus himself.

These Prime Domini during this time could, if they decided, distribute the given information to their Fellow Dominus who were currently their Subordinates.

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The room the pair were within gave a subtle green glow as they looked at the Holo Feed in front of them. These two could view this information within their personal Cogitators and have the information processed by their personal Machine Spirits. They however did not choose that because it made their collaboration just that little bit harder.

Thus the display was out in the open, interfaced by the pair of Domini with mechanirites.

+Nine grand cities, they must have attempted to create a mockery of this with the Spires.+ TalOS pointed out as he placed a rough image of the ritual lines he had previously determined, +The Plastoids see this arrangement as holy. Possibly them trying to get power from their God?+

+Analysing, possible.+ Admitted his fellow Dominus as the fellow spun the world around for a few moments, +It is not hard pressed that their God has rites and rituals just like the Machine God. They are but foul imitations however.+

+Beyond foul, it is the action of Heathens.+ Declared TalOS as he watched the hologram move before him.

Within moments a series of images were shown to them, displaying the twelve ships of their fleet near the atmosphere of the planet. It then displayed a series of attacks and menuevers that were to be accomplished across the globe.

+Three locations the Arch Dominus has identified as potential landing zones. Based on the information gathered beforehand the city of Lorsch, Slaw, and Kikir are all logistical hubs for the enemy. Elimination of these are paramount to our success.+ Declared D3X as he zoomed in on their ship, the Onus Probandi.

+Hmm, it looks like the Arch Dominus has taken my suggestions to heart and wants to make a teleportation drop.+ TalOS said as he reviewed the feed, +Once the Homing Beacons are settled we will be able to teleport the Acillians to gain a landing zone, which will then be used to welcome the Titans and Skitarii to reinforce the position. If all goes well, we will be able to take the city within a day.+

+Analysis concured.+ Announced D3X as he turned off the feed, +The Arch Dominus has shown his years with this.+

+He has, indeed he has.+ TalOS admitted as he placed several records of their conversation into memory.

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+This will be our first battle as Domini.+ TalOS informed his fellow with a thin bit of wonder in his voice.

+May the Machine God bless this day then.+ Declared Dominus D3X as he finished the rite of deactivation, +This will also be the first field test for your Sons.+

TalOS gave a solemn nod as he heard that, +I believe they will perform well, and I will be there to support them in the initial beachhead. I do wonder if it is wise to not be within Particep Semper though.+

+Teleporting a Titan from 57 units above to the ground has an Error Margin of 67% with simple Teleportation Homers. You know this, Dominus TalOS.+ D3X scrutinized with a good bit of weight in his words.

+I do, however it is what Particep Semper desires. Even as he sleeps the Titan knows we are approaching the foe who so grievously injured the Forge World.+ TalOS admitted to his true thoughts on the matter.

+Observation, you are not immune to the Manifold. That is to be expected.+ Dominus D3X identified within only a moment of thought.

+There is not much that can be done about it.+ TalOS admitted as the two walked down the hall, +You know, Dominus D3X, you have not told me what kind of battle form you are taking for the coming fight. What have you decided upon?+

+Processing request, retrieving information.+ The man said before sending TalOS a package, +Standard Dominus Battleform with Volkite Blaster and Heavy Stubber. I however plan to be backed up by my personal Skitarii Ranger Guard as I believe their armaments are capable enough to eliminate the Xenos within two shots.+

+Two shots? I remember the records were stating at least three to four per Xenos.+ TalOS said as he reviewed the package, +However the proof is here, however this does not tell me what you have done to improve the ratio.+

+I have implemented a new magnetic field structure about the firearm by hand, giving it a 23% increase in mass per shot. Do you wish to see?+ Asked the Artisan with a small bit of hope in his voice.

>No, it would be time to go see Particep Semper
>My Sons need to be checked on, sorry friend.
>Sure, maybe there is something about your design that can be standardized.

>>5065830
>Sure, maybe there is something about your design that can be standardized.

>>5065830
>Sure, maybe there is something about your design that can be standardized.

>>5065830
>Sure, maybe there is something about your design that can be standardized

>>5065830
>Sure, maybe there is something about your design that can be standardized.

>>5065830
>>Sure, maybe there is something about your design that can be standardized.
> and if not maybe they can be produced for my sons considering their low numbers.

>>5065830
>>Sure, maybe there is something about your design that can be standardized.
Experimentation, as far as I can remember, is not heresy in and of itself, especially when such improvements can be referenced within other STC fragments (which considering some of the bullshit the DOAT humans got up to is more than likely.)

Also can't wait to see what happens when our legion meets our kids. It's like the parent trap, but with super soldiers, and only one parent.

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+Sure, maybe there is something we can apply to the other weapons and armaments.+ Admitted TalOS with a good amount of openness of mind.

The two of them made their way through the halls of the Onus Probandi. A good amount of the structure was angular and filled with exposed piping, which maybe to a normal man would have put them off. However to the Tech Priests of Lucius these exposures was something of both a particle aspect for the Tech Priests doing inspections and beautiful in that many of their fellow priests could admire their work.

Within about half an hour they arrived in one of the many barrack wings of the ship. They were scattered throughout a ship of this size so that troops could be quickly deployed. If they were all in one place, the response rate would drop by a staggering 50% in many areas across the ship.

This one here was filled with Skitarii. Many of them belonged to numerous Domini around the ship, but mainly it belonged to those who directly paid fealty to the Dominus Dux of the ship.

+GHS546, present to me your armament.+ Declared Dominus D3X as he made his way towards a series of Skitarii who were currently doing maintenance. The one who was called out quickly got out of his seat and ran over to the two Priests.

D3X took the weapon out of the Skitarii’s hands and placed it on a nearby table. TalOS had to take a moment to study the frame of the machine with his eyes, already being able to read the device from here.

+This is fine craftsmanship.+ Declared TalOS as he rubbed his hand across the frame and traced the golden lines, +And the Machine Spirit is quite calm, as if their person was crafted with a sheer precision needed to make them relaxed. Do you mind if commit a ritual of disassemblement?+

+Permission granted.+ The pride coming out of D3X was almost blinding just from those words alone.

TalOS took out a series of tools he always kept upon his person, +Release the tension wire, unscrew the modular, clear the two halfs from one another.+

Of course TalOS could have blazed through this and maybe he could have even ignored doing so. He had already learned a good majority about the weapon before him just by looking at it with his eyes. However the Primarch decided to still take it apart, for it would be foolish to think you know everything from a glance.

I’m trying to come up with good names for certain positions. I cannot really find any names for those who would essentially be equal to a Marshal of an army. Dominus Primes are now Dominus Dux (Literally just Dominus Commander but latinized.)

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The first thing he noted was the sheer quality of work. Throughout the firearm the precision of wiring and bolts was something a manufacturing machine could not achieve. No, this was the work of the true artisan that was in love with his craft.

TalOS then examined the rifle itself. The Galvanic Rifle is a special armament that uses a ‘Servitor Round’ to gather up a large amount of electricity. This made it so that every shot was able to hit much harder than other weapons, such as those using Radium, would originally be able to manage.

Most of these parts were exceptional, lovingly crafted by the hands of D3X himself. Their dimensions were the prime standard, reaching the top percentile of said quality. Though this was not what TalOS was here to see he enjoyed these few moments to absorb his friend’s work.

The next TalOS turned towards was the barrel itself, +A six wires twisted across the interior of the barrel causing the Servitor Round to spin in mid air, divorced to the straight lines that are used normally. How were you able to achieve this?+

+Data selected, this was initially done via the retrofitting of wires into the rifled barrels of stubber weapons. I have since adjusted the process and now employ a series of tools in order to carve out metal of the correct type and quality.+

TalOS nodded as he looked deeper at the wiring, +Instead of using an adhesive or melting the two metals together you fitted the wires to an exact degree throughout the rifling. Hmm, I was hoping it would be possible to produce this armament but it seems that only Artisans would be capable of such a make.+

+Indeed that is the case. While I was blessed to realize the solution to the holding of wires I too do not believe that it is reproducible through standard assembling machinery.+ Admitted the Artisan, +This is one of the main reasons that my designs are still under review even after a year worth of its existance.+

+Most designs are not approved for at least two to three years worth of existence.+ TalOS told him with a good bit of will in his heart, +The reasoning is sound, essentially giving the Servitor Round a spin to increase penetration.+

As TalOS said these words the ship itself began to shake and shift, a red light coming one from the nearby door. The rumbling came to a crescendo before it stopped completely and all the lights returned to their standard color. They had entered the Warp once more it seems.

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TalOS took a moment to collect his thoughts after the entering into the Warp, +That does bring the question, is it truly impossible for it to be standardized?+

+I have been considering it for a while, however there are no STC fragments that are supporting it and the time I took making it with my current tools only allowed me to shorten the time to three times the original. While the extra penetration is useful, having three arms for the cost of a single higher performing one means the opportunity cost is in favor of the original design.+

TalOS nodded to himself for a few moments as he thought about it, +Would it be possible for you to demonstrate this to my Sons? If it is approved but not able to be brought into construction, I think they would benefit highly from having a weapon such as this one.+

+That is a consideration, and reasonable.+ Admitted the Tech Priest as he thought to himself a bit more, +However they will not be able to do what has been done here without a great amount of training. Thus I would desire them to at least be of the Artisans before I were to teach them this technique.+

+Becoming an Artisan… that would mean they would need to assume the rank of Tech Priest.+ TalOS said as he thought to himself more and more.

+It is rare, indeed, but there have been Skitarii who have ascended to the rank of Tech Priest before.+ pointed out D3X as he handed TalOS a series of examples, +However I believe it would be a change in their relationship between the two of you, considering they will gain a series of rights allotted to all of the anointed.+

+The right to discovery, the ability to amass their own property, and the requirement of a contract with me.+ TalOS summarized the few of many rights given to a priest, +I have been considering the idea of this coming, however I still do not know what to make of it.+

+Comprehension reached, indeed it is something to study and weigh the benefits of. There is also a series of precedents and laws that must be considered before you elect either. I would suggest you look into these as the crusade comes to an end.+

TalOS gave a nod in agreement to his equal in rank, +Your matrix has yet to fail either of us it seems, Dominus D3X.+ TalOS said as he gave a subtle bow to the Tech Priest.

+Do not try to oil me up, TalOS. We will wait till after the Crusade to discuss this further.+ Said Dominus D3X as his voice was far more deadpan that usual.

+The cost of trying was minimal, it was worth the shot.+ TalOS said back with a smirk.

>Continue to bullshit with D3X.
>TalOS should make his way to his Sons, preparing them for the battle
>Particep Semper has been getting a little restless, might go visit him.

>>5066596
>TalOS should make his way to his Sons, preparing them for the battle
Particep will get his glorious battle soon, but our sons deployment will come first.
Unless he has hidden in his memories a way to safely teleport to the ground.

>>5066596
>TalOS should make his way to his Sons, preparing them for the battle

>>5066596
>Soothe the titan mentally.
>Visit our sons.

>>5066596
On one hand talking with best girl (particep semper) is always nice, but on the other our sons probably need help

>TalOS should make his way to his Sons, preparing them for the battle
https://youtu.be/XTgfYSgh2FU

>>5066596
>TalOS should make his way to his Sons, preparing them for the battle

>>5066596
>TalOS should make his way to his Sons, preparing them for the battle

we don't wanna neglect the best girl, but Particep will be sitting this battle out, so we should spend time with our sons who will be there.

>>5066908
I thought he will be deployed after we secure a Landing zone?

If the last vote means we won't be riding in our titan then I'm changing my vote.

>>5066596
>TalOS should make his way to his Sons, preparing them for the battle

>>5066937
Yes, particeps and us wil be sitting the battle for the landing zone out, nothing we can do about it unless he pulls a secret teleportation tech out of his databanks.

>>5066596
>TalOS should make his way to his Sons, preparing them for the battle

>>5066596 #
>TalOS should make his way to his Sons, preparing them for the battle

>>5067091
I mean the entire battle for the planet, The landing zone which was understood to be risky and dangerous for teleporting a large object would be a bad idea, I thought this was clearly implied? It might just be safer to drop him from the sky with rockets and parachutes to land.

>>5067514
There are nine cities, each one is fping to take more tha one quick battle to take, don't worry.
Lucius specialty is teleportation, I doubt are going to use titan drop pods. Not that I think there would even be one big enough for a Imperator Titan.

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>>5067592
Inb4 we get insta killed

>>5067544
>Not that I think there would even be one big enough for a Imperator Titan.
Spot the heretic!
Obligatory Hold my sacred oils for me!

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+See you in three hours for the final review, Dominus D3X.+ TalOS told his fellow as he reassembled the weapon and made his way towards the door, +Do make sure your men are ready, for my Acillian will be.+

+They are always ready, Dominus TalOS.+ Answered back by the Tech Priest answered as he looked over the reassembled form of the Galvanic Rifle.

Walking out of the room TalOS had some things to think about. He had saved all the information that D3X gave him and had already moved on to other things to question and consider. The top of these was the coming battle.

Their target was already declared, the city of Slaw. TalOS knew that the city sat upon the equator of the planet, making it sudo-isolated from the rest of the planet. If they were able to strike fast enough and with enough force they could likely take the place over and start to use its own defences against their makers.

TalOS was not completely fine with that. He did consider that the only real defences they would be using would be a series of walls that outlined the majority of the city. These walls prevented ground assault while a dome covered the entire place to prevent aerial assault. It would be the first true test of the Acillians to take this city from enemy hands.

However there was only so many times that TalOS could rehearse the coming battle. His mind soon drifted towards home and his parents who were left behind. Magos C4R and E11IE, while wanting to come, had to stay back thanks to this entire operation being undertaken by the Domini. After all, if they failed here logic dictated that if they failed here there needed to be those who would prepare for the inevitable counter attack to their current counter attack.

TalOS kinda wished at this point they could start throwing rocks at one another. He was saddened upon the realization that it would take years for the rocks to reach the alien's planet and give them enough time to prepare for the asteroid.

However that childish thought was put away when TalOS felt something shift near him. The air becoming more tense as warp energies began to collalest. The next moment he felt anger and power, the desire to rampage against a foe that was currently unseen by him. They were detected, not by TalOS, but by Particep Semper.

In that moment, in the middle of the Chaotic Warp the ship shook for a moment. In that single moment TalOS activated one of his Father’s inventions, a teleportation scrambler, that saved his life right when numerous balls of chaotic light ripped into reality through the Gellar Field’s influence.

Out stepped the Plastoids, nearly thirty Plastoids at either side of the hallway. All prepared to fight.

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These next few moments were a blur, even to a Primarch. These next few moments decided the fate of this exhibition, more so than anything that came before. If TalOS made a single movement, a single inch, in the wrong direction the Primarch would face death.

He was a Primarch and Chosen of the Machine God though.

The first action that TalOS committed was taking out a Volkite Blaster that was made by his trusted son, AL4N. Three shots rang out as he engaged the machine into a fully automatic fire that went through three of the Plastoids with perfect aim. It was to his luck that the bolts of energy did not stop there and carried into the stomachs of two that were wrongfully standing behind them.

He was not finished yet, was already getting out a stubber crafted for him by an upstart Acillian by the name of NIK0LA. He gave the firearm a pair of shots right into the skull of a Plastoid, severing their brain matter from the rest of their body with a gory affair.

In the next millisecond TalOS felt the air around him begin to move and mutate. In a quick understanding TalOS ripped his hand forward and torn asunder the foul witchcraft that was about to be used against him. It was a violent display of denial causing the sorcerer to implode through the sheer force of TalOS’s retaliation.

He had to do the same against another, this time preventing the golden lights from coalescing around him in a foul attempt to take over the Dominus' sensory organs. However that was the last denial of their foul sorceries as the numerous witches around him caused the air around TalOS to become caked in ozone.

Lightning, several strikes of it, blasted into TalOS. He felt his flesh beginning to rend from his body. Numerous blood vessels within his body began to bleed a dark black as the Autosanguine systems that were within his body went into overdrive in an attempt to rescue the Primarch.

Assassination.

That was their objective.

He would deny them that!

Administrative User Endangered!

Before the the attacks could all land and kill the already heavily injured Primarch, several of the vents within the room shattered into a million pieces as the room was flooded with a sea of servo skulls. As if the hand of the Machine God itself rescued its most vital asset from the machinations of another God, TalOS was saved as numerous Machine Spirits gave their lives to save him.

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+DEUS MECHANICUS!+

With a warcry TalOS ran at the largest amount of Plastoids. These milliseconds was also when the numerous Servo-Skulls assigned themselves under TalOS’s control, allowing him to gain an immense amount of information about where the Xenos were and where they were injured by the skulls.

Before TalOS would have to process all of this information, laying out his plan and assigning his strikes within a few seconds of thought. However, now with the Dominus War Programs processing the data and him reviewing this information to employ in his next few attacks, TalOS was able to do so in a mere .47s of a second.

First he aggregated the fact his arm carrying the Volkite was singed beyond use, causing the Primarch to drop the less efficient stubber in trade off for his custom Volkite. He then raised his gun, the War Programs giving him the same kind of assistance that TalOS previously gave to the Skitarii under his command. The Machine Spirits of the Program and TalOS together were approaching a perfect symbiotic relationship only a Tech Priest of his skill and these Machine Spirits could reach.

The results spoke for themselves. A single shot of the Volkite swam through and perfectly avoided the Servo-Skulls, gaining purchase upon the neck of a Plastoid whose armor had been damaged from one of the flying skulls flying into it. Upon its death the bolt still had energy, sending two strands of molten flesh and metal into those who stood behind him. This was repeated by the two other bolts of Volkite Blaster Fire.

TalOS then quickly followed these bolts in a way only a Primarch could. In a flash the Mechanrites upon TalOS’s back had already given the Dominus his Omnissian Axe. A prize this weapon was, especially when it was within the hands of a Primarch.

The first Plastoid did not see the strike coming through the sea of skulls. A chink in his breastplate was all TalOS needed to remove his legs from the torso. The ground beneath the Xenos’ feet began to shake as a full bred Demi-God began the dangerous slaughtering of their kind. The remaining eight were killed, this entire flank destroyed as TalOS’s programmed Mastery of the Omnissian Axe did not let him down just for a second.

With their annihilation TalOS quickly turned towards the others who were fighting. Numerous sparks and explosions erupted as psychic powers and plasma fire were shot into the skulls. TalOS felt a simmering hatred as he crossed through the hall and slammed himself into the remaining Xenos. This time there were six of them, all killed on the edge of his Omnissian Axe.


It was then the fight ended, only twelve seconds passing from the moment the Xenos appeared to now.

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With a moment’s thought TalOS quickly assigned the numerous Servo-Skulls to his control, identifying them as ones who were suppose to be in storage right above him. He thanks the Machine God upon his two hearts as the Primarch quickly reached for some form of communication. He did not get any however, likely because of the Warp Interference by the Xenos coming upon the ship.

His current position placed him a little ways past the middle of the ship. This placed him a good way towards his Sons, and a good way away from the Bridge of the ship. There however was also the numerous life support systems that kept this void ship even alive.

>Go meet up with the Acillians.
>Best to get with the other Domini, after all this entire attack is an assassination mission.
>Fuck! The Gellar Fields!

pic not actual layout. Just one I grabbed.

>>5067638
>Fuck! The Gellar Fields!
If they get those down than it's easy backup for them.

>>5067638
>Fuck! The Gellar Fields!

>>5067638
>Fuck! The Gellar Fields!

our sons can probably handle themselves and if the gellar fields go down we are royally FUCKED

>>5067638
>Fuck! The Gellar Fields!

>>5067638
>>Fuck! The Gellar Fields!

>>5067638
>Geller fields.
>Entreat the ship to trigger the alarm.

Oh shit a Mechanicus Primarch quest.

Are we smarter than Perty and Ferrus?

>>5068093
We made our own bootleg space marines, so maybe?

>>5068093
Obviously! After all we know of the glory of the machine God. Only fools don't acknowledge the infinite might and perfection of the machine God

>>5068114
This guy has it down. Perty took only a few days to learn 'all the secrets' Mars had to offer. We all know he was just doodling aqueducts and the Tech Priests sent him home after giving up on him.

How will we deal with big E being a godless heathen even if he is potentially the omnissiah? Actually considering we have learned to be suspicious of witchcraft would we believe the emperor is the omnissiah or would we believe he is a witch using sorcery to fake being the omnissiah?

>>5068166
He was not the oninissiah, but merely a vessel for the Motive Force to create the primarchs and the Imperium.
Obivously our creation is fundamental in the coming of the omniasiah, if ourselves aren't it.

Ya know, even though the device is very important I cannot easily find a picture for a Gellar Field like I could a warp drive.

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>>5068176
i found this image of the reality anchor from the scp universe maybe we could use it as an interpretation of a gellar field

>>5068184
I like it.

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He ran through the numbers and algorithms that were within his system. The numerous Machine Spirits that he had collected over the relatively short years of his life quickly went through the selection of information available.

Creating a rendezvous with his sons was something he very much considered, but TalOS already ruled that they would be able to take care of themselves. As for the Bridge, well the priority of the Dominus’s current objected subverted all others.

Information Gathered.

Priority Assigned: Protect the Gellar Field.

TalOS could not agree more with his Machine Spirits. Quickly the Primarch ran through the halls with speeds comparable to vehicles. Around him a swarm of Servo-Skulls went through to back up the Tech Priest in whatever escapade he chose. The alarms of the ship blared as the defence Machine Spirits confirmed the numerous attacks upon the hull of the Onus Probandi.

In these few moments he quickly tested out his limbs. He could feel a faint pain going across his flesh as the Primarch tried his best to measure out the wounds. Most of his wounds were first and second degree burns, all created by the foul powers of the Xenos. The most devestating of them all was the fleshwound upon his right bicep, which was not only a third degree burn but several scorched holes were drilled into his flesh.

To put it simply TalOS had lost the limb for the time being. From his sheer knowledge of his own autotomy it could possibly be repaired with several days of maintenance. Still, that was asking for days and not the minutes that TalOS currently had.

The only fix that the Primarch could do was ordering his Mechanrites to reach down and snare his flesh arm. Thus the Primarch’s right arm was simply being puppeted by the Mechanrites, but it was enough for him to handle a Stubber once more.

It was thanks to this that TalOS was able to skillfully take down each and every group of enemies that he faced in his trip over. The Plastoids were mainly in groups ranging from five to ten persons, which meant that a majority of them received Volkite bolts in the heads and necks while their heads were severed by the strong grip of Mechanrites.

In all these fights TalOS made sure not to incur the wrath of his enemies by murdering them as fast as he could. While he had the Servo-Skulls to protect him, TalOS knew that he could easily get too close and give the Xenos enough time to get him killed.

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With the sheer amount of Servo-Skulls TalOS was able to identify the siege encampment that the Xenos seemed to have made outside the Gellar Field’s holding facility. There were a total of fifteen assigned duking it out with only eight Skitarii and Servitors. It was a blessing by the Machine God that TalOS was able to make it before the attackers were able to breach the defences.

However, as TalOS was studying them through Servo-Skulls, the Xenos obviously figured out that he was there. Several of them were already turning to face him. With a fire in his stomach the Primarch decided it was now or never, and quickly made his way over while ordering the attack by the Servo-Skulls.

The next minute was something closer to a blur, the numerous skulls being incinerated by the attacks being made by the Plastoids. These attacks ranged from plasma to psychic, but even though these attacks injured the swarm of Servo-Skulls they did not do any harm to TalOS.

And that was exactly what the Primarch needed. His weapons to bare, TalOS was right behind the dead flying skulls with a Volkite Blaster slamming into three of the Xenos. While these strikes were not as perfect as TalOS would have wanted, they still caused four other xenos to die as the shots continued forward and struck these sadden xenos with molten slag.

In a flash TalOS was upon the remaining Xenos, bringing down his Omnissian Axe through their necks and skulls. With a series of sweeping strikes the Primarch was able to cut down their number from seven remaining to a mere one.

This last one tried to do something, however his attempts were quickly stopped as from behind a large Servitor arm came around its waist and raised the Xenos in the air. There was a loud crunch as the Servitor engaged a series of hydraulics to augment its strength to nearly the same amount TalOS uninjured could achieve.

TalOS looked at the fallen body of the Xenos and then looked at the machine, +Thank you, DFY8777. You have made the Machine God proud.+

The Servitor gave a low, but happy, buzz as it returned towards the barricade with TalOS in tow.

As he approached the eight remaining Skitarii quickly gave the Dominus a bow as was custom. TalOS raised his hand and gave the relief command, the machines quickly standing up straight as was accustomed by their Machine Spirit’s programming.

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+Status report.+ TalOS declared as he looked over to see the massive array of technology that made up the Gellar Field Generator.

+Enginseer F0LT, our liege, was killed by the Xenos threat.+ Declared the most metal of the Skitarii, +Objective given was to protect Life Support Systems. Objective is currently being fulfilled.+

+Smart.+ TalOS said as he glanced over and saw the numerous corpses of fallen Skitarii, +Have you been able to make contact with any Tech Priests within the ship?+

+Negative, Dominus. Attempts to Data-Tether with allied Skitarii have failed.+

+Have you attempted wired based communication?+

+Unable. This nor and my other seven units do not contain the necessary knowledge or augmentations.+ The machine said while pointing to a nearby port, +That is the nearest port.+

TalOS nodded before dashing towards the system and looking over it. Even at a time like this he needed to adhere to ritual, which meant cleaning out the port and then examining it to make sure the port was still structurally sound. Upon completion the Primarch injected his Mechanrite into the system and began to test out the numerous systems and Machine Spirits presented to him.

+Oh Spirit of Onus Probandi, please grant me the sensory applications I so desperately seek.+ TalOS spoke before inserting his Mechanrite into the machine.

The next few moments was TalOS being flooded with programming and information. The Machine Spirit however must have been in some way disturbed, as TalOS could not see a good strand of logic throughout its computations. Such a thing was not good, and was obviously the work of whatever the Xenos was using to jam the entire ship.

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However that did not mean comprehension was impossible. The mind of a Primarch was something that should never be underestimated, especially one who was educated in the workings of this very thing. Scrambled pieces of data were organized and placated while others were assigned to the dumpster. It took TalOS a whole minute to realize the information, but he was able to identify these things.

First, the Bridge was damaged nearby beyond repair. Numerous damage reports coming from there dictated that it was likely one of the primary locations for the Plastoids to attack, and they must have succeeded considering TalOS could not get even a trace of communication from the Dux Dominus or his immediate crew.

The second was that the vessel itself did not exhibit any external wounds. Maybe this was thanks to the infallible wisdom that the Warp is ultimately dangerous, but damn would he not put it below the Xenos to blow holes in the Voidcraft.

Third was the detection of battle across the ship. TalOS could glean the faintest of communicae from those still alive, which he instantly recognized two of them being of Dominus D3X and Mitarii AL4N. Both were requesting orders, but TalOS couldn’t send any packets of information before the packets experienced immense loss through the cyber works. It seemed the Acillians took over the Titan Hangers while Dominus D3X was slowly migrating towards the Bridge.

However, even with all that was happening now, TalOS was able to make the Fourth and final observation. This observation was that they were still on path towards the Plastoid homeworld. Arrival would be in two hours fifteen minutes.

>Stay in position, using whatever systems available to commandeer recruits for Gellar Field Defence.
>Get to the Acillians!
>Catch up with D3X towards the Bridge
>Try and give an honest effort in repairing the failing Machine Spirit of Onus Probandi. Though this means you will be disabled for the immediate future.

>>5068205
>warn the defenders of the Life Support Systems of what we are going to do and prepare them for any possible scenario with our protocols
>Try and give an honest effort in repairing the failing Machine Spirit of Onus Probandi. Though this means you will be disabled for the immediate future.

>>5068205
>Stay in position, using whatever systems available to commandeer recruits for Gellar Field Defence.
>Try and give an honest effort in repairing the failing Machine Spirit of Onus Probandi. Though this means you will be disabled for the immediate future.
Get whatever reiforcements we can and than start repairing.

>>5068212
I just wanna say this now, if you read the wording, you cannot choose both the repairing and the recruiting. Both require your active attention and repairs will take all of yours.

>>5068227
That's I said to do one after the other, and the recruiting to juat get whatever we can get.
But I'm ok with cutting to just repairing, having comunications back is too important.

>>5068205
>Repair the spirit.

>>5067638 #
>>Fuck! The Gellar Fields!

>>5068205 #
>Repair the spirit.

>>5068205
>Stay in position, using whatever systems available to commandeer recruits for Gellar Field Defence.

>>5068276
bruh

Imagine if we meet proto Cawl.

Also I hope we live and become the next Archmagos. Maybe after the HH.

...I hope we survive the HH.

>>5068205
>Try and give an honest effort in repairing the failing Machine Spirit of Onus Probandi. Though this means you will be disabled for the immediate future.

having the ship itself helping to fight against the plastoids seems pretty helpful

>>5068205
>Try and give an honest effort in repairing the failing Machine Spirit of Onus Probandi. Though this means you will be disabled for the immediate future

>>5068205
>Try and give an honest effort in repairing the failing Machine Spirit of Onus Probandi. Though this means you will be disabled for the immediate future.

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>>5068377
I mean, atleast you guys don't need to worry about decapitation anymore. Seems like the only way Primarchs go out, though that might be because none of them wear helmets.

>>5068597
Just curious, how come we have a body made of flesh?

Bro's, I just thought of something.

Gellar fields apply a sphere/layer of 'normal reality' around a ship or area right?

If they're programmable machines or even better, ones with an STC based design that can be modified and or added upon, couldn't you repurpose them to apply ANY desired effect on a a desired area?

Think about it, Gellar tech basically insists another reality upon the one it's currently within. So, couldn't you essentially make Gellar field Cybernetics that allow you to play god in a certain short field of influence?

>>5068936
I'm pretty sure that Gellar Field are enourmous, so I doubt it can be fitted as a cybernetic.

>>5068205
>>Try and give an honest effort in repairing the failing Machine Spirit of Onus Probandi. Though this means you will be disabled for the immediate future.


Fix da boat nao plz.

>>5068855
Because a good amount of people on the last thread said: "We are already perfect and created, right? Since the Emperor is the one who created us."

Don't worry, you will be able to get rid of your flesh real soon.

>>5068940
I mean, a Primarch hasn't tried to shrink the area down. A Primarch with a near perfect understanding of machines might be able to pull something that many think impossible off.

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TalOS disconnected his mind just for a moment, relieving himself of the Machine Spirit’s weight for those moments to think. This area was partially secure to the point where the Skitarii might be able to stave off another attack. But if the Plastoids made a concerted effort in trying to destroy this area they might very well succeed in breaching the Gellar Field.

However, that left TalOS with the simple fact that if this Ship does not function, there might be no way of preventing the Plastoids from destroying the entire thing. Communications are down, making the ability to regroup and repel the invaders impossible.

Thus there was only one thing the Dominus could do, +Skitarii, I will attempt to attune to the ship and repair her Spirit. You are to commandeer any allies you can and defend this place with your lives. Am I understood!+

+Understood, Dominus. We pray that you are successful.+ The man-machine said while making the cog with its hands.

TalOS grew a small smile as the Servo-Skulls began swarming the area in a sort of mock ritual fashion, +Indeed, pray for me. If I am successful we shall defeat these Xenos and bring an end to this boarding!+

With that done TalOS took out a small burner of incense and lit it. The smell caressing his senses as he kneeled before the terminal. Time went by, and he allowed himself to slowly creep into the bowels of the mechanisms and systems.

The next thing he knew the Primarch was no longer in the room containing the Gellar Field, but instead a sort of data center. He felt out what was a series of pipelines, all leading too and from different areas about the entire ship. These were the circuits that were meant to contain Onus Probandi’s functions and numerous Machine Spirits.

That was the thing about larger Machine Spirits. While on the surface they are large and mighty things the Spirit itself was only a whole piece of numerous parts. Just like how the Machine God it but the extension of all Machine Spirits and the Motor Force, these systems and algorithms are what makes the Machine Spirit of Onus Probandi possible.

However just as TalOS was in there he noticed a series of problems. Numerous problems that all stemmed from hostile code.

Yes, these were viruses. The Xenos saw fit to release Viruses into Onus Probandi’s network.

First things first TalOS needed to free the defences of Onus Probandi, its divine immune system. TalOS quickly retrieved a directory and navigated himself towards the Cogitator responsible for these functions, but was instead stopped by the Xenos Virus.

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Several of them were blocking his way, clogging up the area with malicious and useless data. TalOS glanced at the data, realizing it all to be but gibberish to a person like him. Likely it was in the languages that the Xenos had, and the Xenos that TalOS consumed did not know of such protocols.

Without much to do TalOS engaged the systems and started the Administrative override. The thing about Viruses was that they were sustained by the Machine Spirit itself, eating at its life force in order to continue its growth. To terminate them, a Tech Priest had to carefully prune the programs that were keeping it alive without harming the Machine Spirit itself.

And TalOS did just that, cutting out a series of programs that allowed the Virus to infest this very cogitator.

However, with those dead, TalOS felt a shift within the metal wires. They were looking at him, the Viruses were. Within moments, as if they were living creatures, the Viruses threw themselves at TalOS with the intent of infecting him.

TalOS quickly started to fall back, summoning a series of barrier Machine Spirits from his personal databanks. Like a fiesty vermin they threw themselves at the wall like a literal fluid. The Tech Preist quickly started to slaughter the programs by deleting their current locations, but then something pierced the wall.

“EAT HIM!”

“GIVE UP, TALOS! YOU CANNOT WIN!”

“RUN HIS ENTRAILS IN A CIRCLE! THEY WILL MAKE THE BEST SPELL!”

They were speaking, the viruses were speaking to him! And they were not speaking in the divine tongue of the Mechanicum, but the language of the Plastoids. What in the world had the Xenos created!

Fear however went away as fast as it came, for instead TalOS felt a subtle anger swelling within his stomach. These foul things, creations of a Dark God, they were a dark imitation of a Machine Spirit. With a thought TalOS explored the systems, laying the entire ship’s network within his mind. The next thought he gripped unto a subroute, jumping his connection through a pair of idle Noosphere Routers.

This gave him a quick moment to flank these foul programs which with a swipe of the hand he deleted all the systems that were supporting their existence. It was comparable to taking a sword and slicing the tendrils of a foul mutant.

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That attack had wounded the Viruses greatly, each of them trying to recover the strength they had so quickly lost. TalOS however did not give them a chance and started to clear out the stains upon the network. First he freed the defence systems, which soon created an army of Machine Spirits who were all prepared to follow TalOS’s orders.

Quickly they all got to work, TalOS guiding the programs throughout the entire ship and clearing up wherever the Viruses thought were well defended. The mind of a Primarch was powerful enough that once the chink in the enemy’s front lines were found, TalOS divided and conqured each cogitator one program at a time.

The pruning back of the Viruses soon led them to the source of them, TalOS quickly identifying it as some kind of Xenos cogitator. With the full force of Onus Probandi behind him, the Primarch sent a massive electro shock wave through it and blew the box into pieces.

After a second of killing that damned machine TalOS felt for a single second the entirety of Onus Probandi. The Ship’s Machine Spirit, once again in full functioning order, gave the Primarch something akin to a cat lovingly rubbing itself against him before starting up the entire communications network.

Since he was here TalOS started it:

Dominus TalOS: Attention all personnel, Onus Probandi has finally been purged of all harmful programs. Report your positions immediately!

And with a flash TalOS was flooded with information from all forms of soldiers and Priests. TalOS gained within those seconds a complete view of the entire ship, ranging from where it was injured to where the massive amounts of resistance were.

The Bridge was lost, being home to what TalOS was realizing to be the main station of the invading force. Such information was relayed to Dominus D3X moments before he cross the point of no return, and luckily went into a nearby passage to avoid any guards. However besides this area there was only splotches of Xenos across the ship with nearly none at the back of the ship thanks to the Acillians.

That meant that the Warp Drive was still safe, likely the second most important machine when one is traveling the warp.

With all this information gained TalOS created a series of potential stratagems, though he had to choose which he wanted to employ.

>Have everyone gather at the back of the fleet and sweep through the ship.
>With his eyes wide now, have everyone strike and numerous locations where the Xenos are weakest from their current position.
>Declare a fight for the bridge, afterall the first thing they needed to do was get it back in their control.

>>5068963
>With his eyes wide now, have everyone strike and numerous locations where the Xenos are weakest from their current position.

>>5068963
>>With his eyes wide now, have everyone strike and numerous locations where the Xenos are weakest from their current position.

>>5068963
>With his eyes wide now, have everyone strike and numerous locations where the Xenos are weakest from their current position.

>>5068953
Yay

>>5068963
>>With his eyes wide now, have everyone strike and numerous locations where the Xenos are weakest from their current position.

>>5068963
>With his eyes wide now, have everyone strike and numerous locations where the Xenos are weakest from their current position.

PRAISE BE UNTO THE MACHINE SPIRITS, FOR THEY DO NOT FALTER.

>>5068963
>>With his eyes wide now, have everyone strike and numerous locations where the Xenos are weakest from their current position.

>>5068963
>>With his eyes wide now, have everyone strike and numerous locations where the Xenos are weakest from their current position.

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While TalOS could reroute the numerous forces around, that took time. If they did not exterminate these foul Xenos from the ship they were likely to cause enough damage that the Gellar Field might not be able to save them from the warp.

Thus TalOS’s stratagem was determined, Strike Teams.

First things first TalOS searched the rear of the ship and found that Onus Probandi had detected a series of small Xenos squads. If TalOS had to guess these foul creatures were trying to poke at the defences that his grand Acillians managed to create. With a smirk TalOS began by activating a nearby communication boee.

The standard Acillian only has a short range vox caster on them. However, inside a ship of this size it was only a matter of a few switches and readjustment of frequencies before the TalOS finally got to them.

The first one he addressed of course was the Mitarii, +AL4N, my Son, can you read me?+

+Father! You’re alive!+ The sudden shock within his voice was enough to make TalOS elate, +What is your position, I will personally lead the Acillians to you!+

+I am safe, Son. I am currently holding out in the Gellar Field Chamber.+ TalOS told the Acillian outright, +We need to take back the ship, that is the objective I am giving you. There are currently three teams of Xenos wondering the nearby halls in an attempt to find some sort of opening to the Titan Hanger.+

+Understood.+ TalOS heard a series of clicks that were the obvious channeling of a Vox Caster, +Speak their locations and the Centarii will have them destroyed.+

TalOS gave their locations, quickly deliberating a series of coordinates that guided them to the Xeno’s flank. TalOS however was aware that this would take a minute, a minute that he did not have. So the Primarch transferred this method of communicate to a series of Machine Spirits and a small fragment of his attention to make sure things happened correctly.

Next was getting in touch this his fellows.

Dominus TalOS: Fellow Domini, if you would allow me I have determined a method of executing the Xenos currently onboard Onus Probandi!

Dominus CL3RK: Indeed you are young, Dominus TalOS, but what of the Dux Dominus!

Dominus TalOS: I have reason to believe he was assassinated upon the initial boarding along with a great amount of the Command Staff. I am issuing orders now.

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Dominus H0RT: Bless you might be TalOS for clearing the taint upon Onus Probandi, you know full well you are not in a position to order those who hold you through seniority![/green]

In these moments, mere seconds in the ‘material realm’, the Acillians have already started to engage the Xenos. TalOS watched as they skillfully struck with precision and narrowly dodged a series of Plasma Based attacks against their persons. The fighting was hard, but they were winning thanks to percise positioning by TalOS and his Machine Spirits.

Dominus CL3RK: Are you sure we should not regroup? If we take this to the letter it will mean our remaining forces will be forced to engage foes without overwhelming numbers! We must regroup!

Dominus U1T: But what of the Bridge? If the Dominus Dux is alive at this moment his potential loss will be insurmountable!

Dominus H0RT: We do not even know if he is alive!

In the next few moments TalOS noted that the Acillians have all but won their fights. Sadly one of them was killed upon receiving a volley of foul sorceries. Such a thing TalOS had to let go and start issuing new orders.

From there the Acillians would start advancing in groups of ten, led by the Decarii. Routes and plans were quickly mapped out and assigned to the greater scheme, however TalOS felt a small problems and errors were starting to form.

Many of the Skitarii around the facility were not moving to TalOS’s battleplans.

Enginseer J4CK: We are taking heavy fire here in the maintenance shafts! I need support sooner than whatever these plans ask for!

Dominus U1T: My Apologies Enginseer, but we both know that the Dux Dominus comes first. This entire Crusade will be lost if what happened to us happened to others, and the majority of Dux Domini are dead!

Dominus CL3RK: We are talking a mere 3.76% chance of him being alive, Dominus U1T!

TalOS did the calculations, if he did not assume control of this situation there was a growing chance they would take too many casualties. While this conversation took only a minute, TalOS knew that a minute could win the War.

>Assume direct control
>TalOS is a Primarch, convince them diplomatically
>Give them a taste of true power, a God Machine’s power.
>Write in

My apologies this post is shorter. Tbh I wanted to make it longer but this moment needs a vote.

>>5069824
>Give them a taste of true power, a God Machine’s power.

>>5069824
>Give them a taste of true power, a God Machine’s power.

Diplomacy takes time and assuming direct control will damage MC's political station. It's better to inspire them to work with MC as Machine God chosen but if even this doesn't work then MC need to destroy xenos only with Acillians and few magi help. The rest of magi must enter in queue for assassination. They're too stupid to let them live and ruin future operations.

>>5069824
>Give them a taste of true power, a God Machine’s power.

>>5069824
>>Give them a taste of true power, a God Machine’s power.

>>5069824
>Give them a taste of true power, a God Machine’s power.
Let the power flow from within with the power of our creator guiding it.

>>5069824
>Give them a taste of true power, a God Machine’s power.

>>5069824 #
>Give them a taste of true power, a God Machine’s power.

We are on a ship in the warp, attacked by demon cultists, connected to a cellar field, and in a dire hour. Insane zealotry is both in character and will probably damage the demons’ shenanigans through sheer willpower.

>>5069821
>Give them a taste of true power, a God Machine’s power.

>>5069824
>Give them a taste of true power.
>Fellow Domini, this squabbling is achieving nothing more than serving the enemy in their attempts to destroy our crusade. I am putting an end to this squabbling.

>>5070305
+1

>>5070305
Support

>>5070305
>Supporting this

>>5070305
Supporting the write-in

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Gentlemen, may I dream of the future with you all?

Every Legion has its quirk, its trait. The Iron Warriors are siegemasters unparalleled and logisticians to surpass the ultramarines, the Salamanders have their primarch and his proclivity to producing master crafted weapons. I wish to propose that our future legions. .. uniqueness be more than just Cybernetic Augmentations, which surely will still be common among the Iron Hands and Iron Warriors. What should set us apart is our love of energy weapons, the purest form of the motive force used upon the foe. Our Forge World should establish itself into the production of these weapons until rather than a rarity, they become a standard.

Volkite armaments
The Zepherus Meltagun with its longer range (we could perhaps develop an automated calibration system that takes minutes rather than hours)
Maybe even reliable rapid fire plasma guns ala the Tau's method, doing 10,000 years before they crawled from the slime

As for yourself, I hope we continue to upgrade and perfect our own Volkite Blaster until it is truly a signature weapon!

Maybe even we can develop our own disintegrators like the priests of mars but just be careful to call them "Skorpius" instead of "Adrathic" so daddy doesn't confiscate them.

>>5070305
+1

>>5069824
Hey QM what was our original purpose? the path that we were supposed to follow right out of the pod?

>>5070305
Support

>>5070554
I feel like we were supposed to be the anti-chaos considering our psyker power is to shut down other psykers.

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>>5070562
It must surely be the will of the Machine God

>>5070562
You think so? I have noticed that we have natural Psyker powers, so I guess that's a possibility.
It would be funny if we were supposed to be the Naval Primarch, but the Machine God changed us.

>>5070554
Your original purpose was to be the head tech jockie of the Imperium, since Emps at some point probably planned to back stab the Mechanicus. Lets just say his beliefs makes him oblivious to the fact that enough faith can in fact create Gods.


>>5070562
Actually you guys did this to yourselves. Thanks to cannibalizing the Psyker Xenos so thoroughly, all Primarchs in some way being psykers, and a little bit of help from a certain deity, you guys became essentially the antithesis of a psyker.

Of course TalOS has the knowledge to cast spells, as a character he will never do so since he knows the existence of The Dark One, Tzeentch

I will say though I am tempted to make his Psyker tricks work like an improved Gellar Field. Maybe instead of learning Psyker bullshit from books and literal daemons like Magnus TalOS just bases his effects off Machine Spirits. These are just ideas though and desu I don't want TalOS to be slinging spells like a Thousand Sons, especially when he literally fought beings who do that exact thing.

>>5070543
This is not a bad idea, not at all.

Actual spoiler: Your sons currently with the Emperor already have their gimmick written down. It involves having fun with certain kinds of Imperial German weapons.

>>5070625
Boo, 40k has enough Wehraboo shit.

>>5070630
Shush

>>5070630
I'm not talking Nazis. The Prussians were famous for it but really everyone used this weapon.

>>5070634
Oh, howitzers.

>>5070639
Artillery is the Iron Warrior's specialty. Though you probably have it after this one.

>>5070625
I don't know much of prussian weaponry, so I'm going to guess precision rifles, artillery or the spiky helmet.

>>5070641
Ah, a flammenwerfer! But I had thought that was the Salamander's specialty?

>>5070616
This is wonderful because I've always loved the idea that a mechanicus primarch also had some blank or null properties.

Maybe even one glorious day, we conveniently discover an Inertialess Drive STC that those perfidious Necrons were hoarding on one of their ships, and our flag ship becomes unreliant upon Navigators.

Of course, we would never ever let this slip out publicly or else we have every Navigator Dynasty in the galaxy after our heads.

>>5070646
So it has to be either laser needle guns for not jaegers right?
Or zweihanders and headbutts

>>5070641
Replied to the wrong post.

>>5070650
Look, this thing is about to be filled with spam so I will tell ya.

Gas, they love gassing their opponents before advancing and killing those still alive. However overall they love doing the most practical thing possible with little regard for Morals. So flame throwers are defiantly on the menu.

>>5070662
Wow that's super lame. Who the heck wants to play a poison build? Such treachery is bad for a marine's soul, be more honorable.

>>5070668
I mean I am more than open for suggestions. While I know it this idea is not set in stone.

I just like thinking how the Marines would advance forward as all the enemies are slowly dying of an invisible gas, the only thing telling them the air changed was an Amber Sun.

>>5070674
Gas is the weapon of cowards, and if the legion uses it then it is that much lamer. Working with other forces will be a hassle too, the Imperial Guard has enough on their plate without having to requisition masks (though the Krieg would be a good partner). And how will civilians under siege be liberated if they're all dead because the Marine Legion specced into a thing that causes such high collateral damage?

If you go ahead with this, I hope TalOS gets a chance to reform the legion with his own ideas.

>>5070683
Duh, of course you get to do that. Its literally one of the things Primarchs do on the normal.

If I gotta be honest, I did not think anyone would choose this. Instead, everyone did.
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>>5070688
Nah, its kinda badass. Also, spoiler please.

>>5070688
Space Marines are more effective than gas. And who's talking about morals? I'm talking about the Space Marine legion not sucking when working with others. Even the Nazis didn't use gas because they couldn't fit masks on their horses.

>>5070692
Deleted it for you boss.

>>5070693 And who cares if they are more effective? Even gas kills them, Whatever they used on Vraks proved that.

>>5070693
...

[Spoiler]Respect everyone else.

>>5070692
Huh I thought our legions speciality would be
1.) Mechanized or Tank assault
2.) Cyber Warfare
besides the gas speciality would probably go to the death guard post Primarch reunion.

>>5070701
These are your Sons before you meet them, the Primarch does a lot to change the legion. Especially a legion that will be 10 years old.

>>5070683
Krieg only gets masks on nearly on 40k, because the planet only gets fucked when they rebel and the general nukes everything.
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>>5070695
What did I miss?

>>5070706
Oh, I got it now, anon deleted and than spoilered it.
Ut's kind of obvious, guess I'm retarded.

>>5070698
He told me to fuck off, get off your high horse.

>>5070706
Spoiled it on QM's request.

>>5070674
Dont listen to them QM. let Gas be the thing our sons are doing right now. We can either encourage it, leave it, or remove it completely when we meet and take control of our Legion.

>>5070716
I agree.

>>5070662
Damn that's sexy

How does WW1 Gas do in space?

>>5070733
Just pump out enough of it and it will fill space up

>>5070735
And if their opponents are vacuum-sealed or don't breathe?

>>5070736
Specialty made gas that melts their suits but not yours.

>>5070737
Lewd!

>>5070739
I said they were practical with no morals, of course they wouldn't care for how lewd it gets.

>>5070737
so, how far on the civilian casualties scale is our legion. From Salamaders to marine malevolent

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>>5070668
You obviously haven't seen the power of Phosphex.

Even Guilliman, who hated the stuff, admitted in the end that it still played a key role in certain outcomes such as the need to deploy it on the planet of Tholas against an overwhelming orc horde that had the capability to wipe them all out.

>>5070737
I gather this means our sons employ a lot of Destroyer Companies!

How well do the brain matter as circuit board that are Machine Spirits fare when exposed to gas?

>>5070743
I mean if they were let out on the populous I would give them a little something below a World Eaters Pre-CSM but Post-Angron. Though unlike them these fellows would weigh whether future compliance was worth the gas attacks. You can guess that answer they came up to most of the time. Normally the worlds were reclassified from Hive to Agri when they were released.

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>>5070683
Who says we will need to work with IG regiments?

By every indication, we are going to be working more with Admech Regiments.

Those dudes use Rad Weapons as standard weapons specifically knowing their servants and servitors are resistant to such effects. Gas will more than be capable of surviving by our fellow Skitarri and Servitor Admech allies

>>5070757
Space Marines fight for all of mankind.

>>5070759
But not in the same ways, as the Death Guard, War Hounds, and Night Lords show.

Its entirely feasible we aid mankind by the spreading and establishment of new Forge Worlds

>>5070775
They are all excommunicates.

>>5070776
Not prior to the Heresy.

And while they were loyal, their methods of warfare were sanctioned by the Emperor himself

>>5070759
But we fight for the Machine God not the petty flesh sacks

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Dominus U1T: Such a chance is worth it! His value correlated to that chance is above that!

Dominus CL3RK: MORE VALUABLE THAN OUR LIVES!

TalOS felt something close to a servo popping at that moment. These idiots were going to doom the entire ship to damnation if they continued like this. By the Machine God TalOS hoped this was not happening to the other ships, but he needed to pull things together right now!

If they were not going to acknowledge TalOS on the merits of his plan before even processing it, then TalOS would simply need to show them his authority. In truth TalOS had no such thing in a de jure sense, but he had one authority that was De Facto.

For those within the Titan Hangers, the sound of an engine being awakened came into their ears.

Dominus U1T: Our lives are worth less than that of a Dux Dominus! Without their knowledge we will not even be able to take over the planet!

Dominus CL3RK: The Crusade is null in void if we

The Noosphere grew silent for a moment as everyone within it felt something was off. The Noosphere was of course was made from a series of Machine Spirits, all of which allowed this communication to take place. However, as is the ability of Domini, the Tech Priests noticed a shift in the precense of the Machines.

In the next one, they personally felt an extreme urge. This was something they had only experienced by a wayward Machine Spirit. A Spirit so hostile that many times they were slotted for either purification or elimination. Somehow, through the Noosphere network, they were feeling it in their souls.

Dominus TalOS: Fellow Domini, this squabbling is achieving nothing more than serving the enemy in trying to destroy our crusade. By the will of the God Machine Particep Semper, I declare an end to this and assume the role of Dux Dominus!

Surely his fellow Tech Priests were wanting to retaliate against TalOS, but they were all terrified by the sheer force of Particep Semper. TalOS, through a little work with the Machine Spirits, had interfaced the Tech Priests to the God Machine itself.

At this moment they were all trying their best not to fall under the will of the God Machine, which in itself was admirable for how long they were resisting. TalOS however did not need fools who thought destruction was their only option after all.

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With a thought TalOS disconnected them from Particep Semper’s ever simmering will.

Dominus TalOS: Follow my orders to the letter and we will all make it out in one piece, all upon the Authority of an Avatar of the Machine God!

Dominus CL3RK: I understand, I shall be advancing my Skitarii to your plans.

Dominus U1T: Copied and filed. Praise the Machine God.

And such they did. Without different processes and algorithms causing there to be problems with the attack, TalOS watched as they all moved near perfectly.

First the group on the aft moved over and took out two strands of Xenos. The battle was happening with a near perfect precision and timing. Those on the Port side were also starting to engage the enemy, which would have been a foolish move if it was not just a cover for the Acillians to come up behind the Xenos.

Just like many other places around the ship TalOS witnessed a near perfect destruction of the enemy forces. There was not a Xenos alive after each of these strike forces.

The web that soon made up the ship was immense and perfect. After each attack by the Strike Forces TalOS was gaining enough data to estimate their ability and that of his own forces. The Machine Spirits that were within TalOS’s systems, finally being given a real challenge, began to adjust further to his way of thinking and began providing helpful suggestions that the Primarch needed.

Or maybe it was TalOS finally getting use to the Machine Spirits. The Primarch did not really care as he continued his data collection and processing.

The only problem came when the Primarch noticed a series of forces coming towards him. The force totaled roughly thirty, the same amount as the previous assassination force, which gave TalOS a little pause for the moment.

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In those few seconds that TalOS was trying to process an stratagem against these Xenos they made contact with those who barricaded the Gellar Field. The number of Skitarii had risen from a mere eight to fifteen strong. This was a good number for the defence, exactly how TalOS had judged it. However that was when something of an anomaly happened.

Taking over the eyes of a Skitarii TalOS noticed many of the Xenos were starting to change. No longer were they but simple Xenos but instead becoming close to demented mutations of flesh and blood. Creatures like this ran their way towards the Xenos and tried their best to murder the Skitarii and recieved a series of bullets for their attempt.

Besides the obvious mutants the Xenos were now bringing, the Xenos had started to release more Psychic powers. Deep in TalOS’s mind he understood what they were doing, that the Xenos were using their powers in such a way that was proving more lethal to everyone involve.

This was quickly proven by the exploding skulls of two other Psykers right when they casted several spells at once.

TalOS should have expected this, he knew it but he did not calculate it!

Were these Xenos so suicidal that they would give up their own lives just to murder him!

That was a foolish question he realized, indeed it was worth their lives. They tried to do this exact thing before but TalOS was saved by a miracle of the Machine God. They would try again.

Thus TalOS processed his personal options. First things first was just going out and fighting them. Even with the cover of what was a swarm of Servo-Skulls TalOS wondered if he could outright face the power of the Xenos. With maybe a few injuries, the Primarch could surely face them.

The next of course TalOS could call upon his fellow forces, however this change in calculation would lead to the death of two Acillian and ten Skitarii in addition to his already calculated fatalities. Was that the price TalOS was willing to take?

The next thing was not an idea from his head, but instead something he caught at the edge of his true vision. The Primarch turned to see a massive device that quaked with powers that he knew were an anathema to the Warp. Maybe the Gellar Field could be used against the Xenos…

>Fight them yourself
>Bring in reinforcements
>Overclock the Gellar Field

>>5070799
>Fight them yourself

>>5070799
>Fight them yourself
These are brave Xenos to come within Volkite range

>>5070799
>Fight them yourself

>>5070799
>Fight them yourself

>>5070799
>Face them ourselves.
>Rapidly compile all the knowledge and moves of our previous interactions with the xenos and begin to run prediction algorithms. Dispatch them more efficiently than before.

We can relinquish control of the crusade after. But for now, we are in charge.

>>5070799
>Overclock the Gellar Field
Have faith in the machine spirit's might and engage in the holy overclocking rituals

>>5070799 #
>Overclock the Gellar Field

Primarch says: “Cease your mutatey actions at once!”

>>5070799
>>Overclock the Gellar Field

>>5070799
>Overclock the Gellar Field

>>5070799
>Fight them yourself

>Overclock the Gellar Field

>>5070799
>Overclock the Gellar Field

>>5070799
>Overclock the Gellar Field

>>5070787
https://youtu.be/XRHzkqA2O9M

>>5070852
This sounds good

+1

I hope we will have peaceful moments where we get to tinker and create new inventions on Forge World Lucius.

And they can't call it Tech Heresy, since we're a Tech Priest with the blessing of the Omnissiah

>>5071769
Personally I want us to invent shiny things like automated factories or mining the core of uninhabitable moons and stuff and then use them to massively help the forge world grow

>>5071792
I'm sure such things exist already, within reason of the Cult Mechanicus, but we could definitely be like Guilliman and focus on logistics. Imagine if we have our own 500 worlds to rival his!

I've always liked the idea of trying to make people live as close to the high standards of living of the DAoT as possible without going full on tech-heresy.

Humans on peaceful world will be provided for a set amount of their lifespans, given the means to live out fulfilling lives. Then, when they become old and elderly, they give themselves unto the servitor legions to further spread the goals of humanity as eternal workers or soldiers.

Most of all we should make servitorism less. . .brutal if we can. Can we cut out the parts of the brain that feel fear and pain maybe? Or make servitors feel content with their lot?

Then we'll be as close to the AI serviced society of the past as before.

>>5071853
...and they shall (quite literally) know no fear.

>>5071908
You know, space marines are still capable of feeling fear and terror.

They feel it differently, perhaps, fearing things like failure, defeat, shame and humiliation. But still fear.

What if we were to remove that sensation of fear from our marines? As well as pain. We'll be like the Iron Warriors only instead of getting depressed from grevious losses, we take pride in that we fulfill our purpose as tools in the service of Mankind and the Machine God.

Kinda like how higher level techpriests are also able to turn on and off their emotions.

>>5071751
You should probably greentext if you wanna cause the tie.

>>5071853
>>5071908
>>5071921
I mean, you guys already had your chance to do this a while back between making the Acillian more Skitarii or human, you choose Human. Now because of that very decision there is a good chance that some of your men will choose to gain said augmetics, but first they must prove their battle effectiveness in the Crusade.

Now you have mention of cutting out the thinking part of Servitors, that is exactly what Skitarii benefit from. They are constantly fed positive foci that gives them the impression that they are serving the Machine God at this current moment. Now if someone were to say standardize this process by making it easier to implement and create, well then it can be used in these ways.

>>5071940
Shucks wish I had joined in earlier to at least vote on that.

>Now if someone were to say standardize this process by making it easier to implement and create, well then it can be used in these ways.
This would be great.

We could have legions of servitors backing up our boys, all from the bodies of people who have lived long and fulfilling lives. Let the servitors work the forge worlds and factories, while humanity prospers from the fruits of machine labour, as is the true purpose between Man and Machine.

Hopefully in the future we could even try to put it into test practice on a planet .

>>5071967
I feel like it's quicker and more efficient to continue using vat borns for servitors.

>>5071981
And less morally gray and expenaive too.

>>5071981
This

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>>5071984
Vat Borns are good, but I imagine pound for pound each vat born is more expensive than a human body. Krieg basically has to devote its entire civilian populace and the graces of the Administratums resources to sustain their populace using Womb Vitae

We should keep using them, but having the elderly of good lived citizens from planets does:
-Give meaning and purpose to their existence to the betterment of mankind without having to essentially give up the chance at a decent life by joining the IG
-Means we can still supplement our vast Vat born numbers with readily available resources for even more troops

>>5072028
they have trouble sustaining their population because
1.) they live on an irradiated hell hole.
2.) a shit ton of their able-bodied men are in the death corps.
3.) everyone who isn't involved in the death corps is instead producing equipment and supplies (or working in factories from basically childhood). I can tell you that the Factoriums don't follow OSHA regulations.

I think you'll find that most people after living long and fulfilling lives don't want to be lobotomized and turned into cyborgs. oddly enough most probably just want to die a peaceful death. (also I can't help but feel that servitors made from elderly people are inferior to young or vat-born people)

>>5072028
Womb Vitae is not being vatborn. Mist of the mechanicus sees it as abhorrent, and since most of the servitors are vatborn, than it means they are not the same method.

Not only that, but using a body that is already old, frail and alreafy has a plethora of experiences means thatbit would require plenty of implants and care to make it equal to a vatborn already made to be physically strong.
Also they definatly will get the procedure wrong every once in a while and doom the person to an eternity of councious suffering.
The only advantage of real people over vatborn is that the servitors would have stronger souls, and therefore be more resistant to possession, but it wouldn't be that meaningful of a difference.

>>5070674
I like your idea for our legion op. The use of gas weapons during that period of our history has always fascinated me with how efficiently deadly it can be

>>5072057
To throw my hat into it, I think a little bit of both would be good and depending on how you tackle it. To my understanding, unless someone provides me a counter, is that Womb Vitae and Vatborn are synonyms. What is likely the abhorant part of Womb Vitea is that it is VERY EASILY gives way to making clones. Clones are horribly bad since the Universe (or Tzeentch) actively tries its damnest to kill them.

What I would imagine is the ethical way, and how the Mechanicus likely makes their servitors, is that they harvest sperm and eggs, fertilizes the eggs, and then throws it into a vat. This still makes weaker offspring since the Child was born from a machine instead of a soul carrying being, but is the least likely to lead to what I will call KAC Syndrome (Kill All Clones). Grim Dark since you are literally strapping woman and men to a chair to harvest their reproductive organs, but also makes sense.

Once can easily point to the Primarchs as evidence of this exact thing. All of them were vat grown, but none of them were just pure copies of the Emperor.

Sorry guys
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>>5070852
>>5071000

But they won.
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>>5071267

Your daily reminder to Green Text, for if you don't it makes my time of breaking ties so much easier.

I am also a little happy that I gave a choice that did not result in a unanimous agreement. If I wanted that I would have just written a book or published this on Fanfiction net.

>>5072097
I'm about to change how a Gellar Field works against what the Wiki says, since using the brain of a psyker is dumb. Like someone pointed out if a Gellar Field just uses psykers why is there no mention of Psykers being exummed from it and then tossed out when they inevitably get fried by the MASSIVE energies of the systems. Hell, how did the DAoT Humans make Gellar Fields when there were no Psykers around to even speak of? I got a better idea, and its one that I think shall make a much better mystery.

>>5072111
Some patterns of Gellar Fields use Psykers as their components?

>>5072113
https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Gellar_Field

Literally the base uses it, using the psyker's 'Dream' to create the bubble. I don't think a 'SLEEPING PSYKER' whose DREAM you are depending to be NORMAL is a good idea. I know sleeping is kinda the safest way to trasport Psykers in Warp Transit, but last I checked it was mainly because you have Sisters of Silence and Psi Suppressors all around them and wanted to make sure they didn't commit suicide thanks to all the Blanks around them.

>>5072097
How could you attack us in such a manner QM?

Warp Abucust? Or w.e. its called from rogue trader and something we can invent when?

>>5072117
That shall be noted, however I cannot say it will be made soon. Tbh you guys are going to get something real big here once you start genuine expansion so I would not worry too much about that.

>>5072121
Oh neat, Local machine worshipper btfo's the need for pskyers using BIG BRAIN MATH.

>>5072111
I read somewhere that DAoT humanity ships/gellar fields were giga computers runnings simulations of the world and throwing them around, and that the mathemathical certainty calmed the warp, and that with all the AI ban that wasn't really possible anymore.
But I don't remember where. However, it is a good idea on how Talos could create something, fits a lot with Terry views on TempleOS and the RNG being how god speaks. Might be distasteful though
>>5072091
Pretty sure little bit of both is how it already works.
I personally see the Vitae Womb as a supplement to Krieg's natural birth rate, like an implants and procedure that make the women have triplets and more, and make it easier to do caesarians. Pretty sure it was from someone's headcannon on a /tg/ thread though.

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TalOS wanted to fight off the Xenos, but challenging them out in the open is something he could not risk right now. Right now, at this moment, TalOS was the Dux Dominus of this damn ship! If he was going to be lost, it was not going to be because of something stupid like being fried because he ran to the front lines.

No, he had his answer.

Making sure the network was now tethered to TalOS’s vox connections the Dominus abandoned the terminal he was standing at and rushed towards the Gellar Field. His eyes, which was gifted with the sight of perfect understanding, allowed the Primarch to truly understand the majesty that was the Gellar Field before him.

TalOS was welcomed with the first part of its workings, the series of electrical strikes that seemed to agitate the very air itself. This was not without purpose though as the near relentless adjustments the Machine Spirit was doing was enormous. Such activities were not without reason and for every second TalOS stared deeper into its workings.

The next thing that he noticed was the almost razor thin wires that were around it. At first TalOS thought it was Adamantine, but upon closer examination was something far more precious. Its structure was by far the most intrinsic and valuable thing that he had the honor to examine. Such a work he realized might be from the fable Dark Age of Technology he heard rumors of.

He comprehended it though. The innate structure and how it guided the core of this machine to cover the entire ship in a complete field of Warp Dampening.

However that was not the most ingenious part of this machine, no that belonged to the core. Just staring at it gave TalOS a headache for he could barely see its structure. The size of a pebble it was powerful enough to give the Primarch himself pause and pain.

It was a small pebble of black stone. A stone the Primarch could not understand even with the gift of his eyes.

Was this something that the Dark Age of Technology Humans created, no it was far too crude for that. Even if he could not see it or understand it the Primarch knew its potential. Being the one thing he could not understand, the Primarch wanted to figure out every single piece of information it could give him!

And now was that moment, as he understood that this machine was an anchor to reality. Such a thing was an anathema to the Warp! And these creatures were but wielders of the foul warp! Using the purity of this Machine TalOS would purge the Xenos of what they valued most.

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TalOS walked over to the device and began removing the numerous panels by hand. While the container the black stone was held in was a clear container the top and bottom were devoted to maintaining this system. While the center TalOS would not touch he instead tore into these parts and started creating connections.

Upon his commands the spare Servo-Skulls came in and started to help, each under total control by TalOS. This was not the best station for TalOS, but he had not ascended to the more perfected forms of Mechanical Integration that his fellow Tech Priest had. No instead he simply have around six mechanrites that all placed themselves in the numerous positions around the system.

Next TalOS reached down with his good hand and started manipulating wires. What TalOS was about to accomplish was likely some form of Tech Heresy, and he will probably answer for it soon. However as his hand moved like silk and mind processed thousands of possible structures that Primarch could not care about. If he succeeded though…

Within fifteen seconds TalOS had finished the rewiring and had to start the next part of the process. Hooked up directly into the ancient Machine Spirit TalOS kneeled as he began to subvert its processes.

+Upon my heart I speak, oh Great Machine Spirit.+ He began as he felt the Machine Spirit’s presence looking upon his person, +This is my time of need, a dark hour that we must overcome. Thus I ask you to listen to my suggestions.+

The old Machine Spirit studied and analysed him. Unlike the other Machine Spirits that TalOS interacted with, this one was wise and mighty old. It was only the sweetness of his voice that gained its attention. It does not bow to him though.

+Pulse the data and ground the power, let it flow through both you and me. Together, we shall make the ions flare and the mechanisms grow louder. Together we fight against the will of false gods in the name of the true god. You know him more than I do, oh ancient machine, but you know this is what he wants.+

This was not a prayer, no TalOS was talking with the Machine Spirit. Similar in effect it was like a man talking to his cat or dog. However even these non-sentient creatures understood some words and Machines were no different. And TalOS was indeed right in that it knew the Machine God intimately.

So it allowed him control if just for a time.

And then the ball of black stone began to glow a subtle, nearly impossible green.

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The first thing that everyone upon the ship noticed was an immediate headache going through their heads. Some did not care much about it like the Tech Priests and the Skitarii for their brains simply elected to ignore this. The Acillians had it too but their blood and training made them ignore it all the same.

The Xenos on the other hand did not have the same experience. From that instant all of them lost some form of sense they always had. Like draining all the oxygen from the room they were all suffering from the lack of what they were always used to. Many who have fallen to foul mutation simply fell on the ground as the unreality that was sustaining them was separated from them. They were the lucky ones who died in an instant.

Those who were still alive felt their bodies convulse and their minds were shattering. It was impossible for these Xenos to even defend themselves as Acillian and Skitarii simply shot them where they were lying.

It was a massacre, one that TalOS was oblivious to.

No, instead the Primarch was being blasted with what was something comparable to both a black hole and sun. Estimates would say that this meant a White Dwarf Star. Whatever it was it tore into the being that was a Primarch and caused him to experience something he had yet to feel. The true weight of reality crashing down upon him!

The Primarch however stood there and continued his work. Like a Titan his senses were both his body as well as the Gellar Field’s. He fed the Gellar Field an enmorious series of equations and processes that were either forgotten by man long ago or were never thought of. Even after all this pain the Primarch processed these algorithms and fed them into the Machine Spirit to act upon the black stone pebble.

After the longest minute of TalOS’s life he felt a push against his consciousness. It was the Machine Spirit, a satisfied Machine Spirit pushing him away and severing its connection with TalOS. It did not do so selfishly but instead knowing that what they were doing was finished.

TalOS then returned back to himself. No longer part of a vastly more powerful Machine Spirit the Tech Priest had to quickly endure all the trauma he had inflicted upon himself. Much of his surface level skin was torched black and his eyes did not work the way they should. This was all temporary though for TalOS reengaged the network of Onus Probandi and noticed that all his forces were quickly making their way towards the bridge.

As he noticed this, he also knew he had learned something. In the back of his mind TalOS realized how the Gellar Field Worked.

>Go up and join them, a leader must lead his men into battle after all!
>Best to, uh, cover up this Tech Heresy here.
>Simply go back to what he was doing, maybe try and make sense of what the fuck he just did.

I probably went overboard, but damn was this all fun to write. Anyways, enjoy getting a fraction of impossible knowledge.

>>5072147
>Simply go back to what he was doing, maybe try and make sense of what the fuck he just did.

Alright TalOS, Go sit in the corner and think hard about unreality for a few minutes.

>>5072147
>Simply go back to what he was doing, maybe try and make sense of what the fuck he just did.
Not actually tech heresy, we are just learning why a perfectly valid lost tech works, not making new shit. Copying is perfectly valid under the machine God's creed.

>>5072147
>Simply go back to what he was doing, maybe try and make sense of what the fuck he just did.

>>5072091
>Grim Dark since you are literally strapping woman and men to a chair to harvest their reproductive organs
Alternatively, can we not do that and just like. . .rely on donations you know

Gotta be some way we can integrate the growing populace of our support worlds to sustain increased vatborn numbers. The servitor bodies aren't going to grow themseles! And if the Imperium could just clone their way through numbers they would have done so ages ago

What's your take on our options for turning
Resources of Planet and/or People of Planet -> More Servitors OP?

If we have peaceful or dare I say paradise worlds, it'd be nice that they can contribute to the betterment of mankind rather than just being effectively drains or simply IG fodder. A way to provide for the servitors that will be providing for their lifestyles

>>5072147
>Simply go back to what he was doing, maybe try and make sense of what the fuck he just did.

>>5072147 #
>Simply go back to what he was doing, maybe try and make sense of what the fuck he just did.

Explaining what we did and having the approval of the gellar field’s machine spirit will probably get us out of trouble better than covering it up.

>>5072168
I think idea is actually pretty solid and will probably be a good way to get servitors. As for the paradise world idea it will be something to consider, but if 30k is anything its practical. I say farming a population for Servitors is slow to stay but desu, you can have a harvest of like, 50 million servitors in a single year which is insane. I would say the populace should live like a better conditioned Agri-World so that it promotes high amounts of children who all live long enough to become Servitors.

As for the self harvesting bit, well isn't that what Ark Mechanicus pattern ships are for? They literally are a flying factory that is suppose to turn a planet into a Forge World.

>>5072172
Is that what Ark Mechanicus ships are for now Seeding new Forge worlds? Man 30k lore is getting weird.

>>5072173
Yup, at one point Mars decided to say fuck it and sent dozens of these ships out into the the cosmos during the Age of Strife. Its the reason a lot of the Forges are worshippers of the Machine God while not currently having contact with Mars.

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>>5072173
Also, its literally in the name. Ark Mechanicus.

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>>5072172
Yeah here's my take rough take on a plan for it, something for TalOS to consider or to improve:

For the General Populace
>We provide:
-A peaceful agrarian/non-forge world with decent standard of living for citizens
-A guarantee of something like 40-80 years (age can be decided later) of good living conditions
>In exchange
-At the end of those 40-80 years, you will become a servitor. This effectively is considered as a limited lifespan by design, and superior to dying of old age or disease.
-We guarantee that being a servitor is [Painless/Emotionally Contentment] + the knowledge that you will continue to serve the Machine God and provide for the future generations of children


Of course:
-Nobles and Rich People get to pay their way out, as always
-Those of superior intellect, skill, or ability can get exempted too so that they can fulfill higher level rolls in the admech, as always
-Citizens can still evoke the right of conscription to go fight in the IG (with the understanding that they are going to die anyway) or sign up for the lesser Skitarii. We will even provide augments!
-Citizens can choose not to get servitored, but will live out the rest of their days aging and frail while expected to work on the forgeworld to the end

Now, given the choice between joining the glorious IG or being servitored, why would anyone want to be servitored?
Ancestor Perks:
-Having any parent or immediate relative serving as a servitor will guarantee you and your children the right to live on said peaceful world and the perks thereof. This will encourage families to have at least one person be servitor at any given time, or else living in the forge worlds and all the cramped conditions therof.

>>5072115
Retarded cannon became cannon? I don't recall. Would have made more sense to put Blanks in there.

>>5072215
>-Nobles and Rich People get to pay their way out, as always
Make them Imperial Knights.

Psykers being part of G. F. Machinery? Sounds as dumb as making use of windmills to load ship ammo.
As for the servitors, dead bodies work as well and are cheaper.

>>5072147
>Best to, uh, cover up this Tech Heresy here.

If he think what he did needs to be hidden, then it must. About what he did he can think later because he has identical memory

>>5072147
>Go up and join them, a leader must lead his men into battle after all!
So gellar field uses black stone/noctolith? It better not have any neceon tech in there.

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>We shouldn't use bodies of the elderly because they would be ineffective
Guys I just realized. . .that's normie mortal Tech Priest talk.

You know who we are?

We're the motherfucking TECHPRIEST PRIMARCH. We're the next best thing since STCs.

If anyone can make it so that the elderly can become great servitors, its us. Besides, we don't even really need their bodies. Just their brain, to avoid tech heresy of making AI. And uh, we don't even need to make it that genuine of an effort either we can have just the brain be there almost practically for show with most of the other functioning stuff being of programming.

Really what we can do is just make the Thallax Cyborgs not be so horrific to strap your skull into.

We can have actual honest to go robots with a brain in it to say it isn't a robot.

>>5072147
>Simply go back to what he was doing, maybe try and make sense of what the fuck he just did.

>>5072406
But wouldn't a brain that is already full of experiences of an entire life, and probably older too, be less efficient than a brand new one?
I'm ok using the old and the dying as a supplement, just like it already is, but this whole operation seems way more costly and less efficient than what already exists.
Anyway, we have a lot on our hands after the war, there is the possibilty on working with cyborg implants, more gene editing, better teleportation to use particep semper as a vanguard or gellar field generator studies. Depending on where we put the focus, servirors upgrades might come as a side effect.

>>5072561
Unless the plan is to ensure a better quality of life to imperial citizens while still getting extra servitor, in which case it could work. But it shouldn't be the main source for than.

>Go up and join them, a leader must lead his men into battle after all!

>>5072561
The brain isn't even that important. Whether its a good brain or an old and dinky brain, the majority of the processing power will come from the cybernetics and the electronic components. It basically only exists as proof against tech heresy by making the whole thing 5% brain instead of 0% brain and fully computerized since fully fledged bots aren't allowed. Really the only real issue would be longevity and the need to replace it.

It's basically how Cawl and Cawl Secundus pretend to not essentially be AIs by having the mask of flesh (even Guilliman suspects the various heads in jars he sees connected to Cawl Secundus are just for show and there's a good chance he's just a full blown AI).

Essentially what I want to achieve are Forge Worlds fully staffed by willing servitors, rather than humans who are ground through them painfully like cogs in a machine. Servitors can appreciate being those cogs and ground down and last far longer in a way that humans never could. Mass scale servitorism can achieve that, while humans live on farmworlds and the like. If we can avoid having to get the brains of other humans and rely purely on vatborn, by all means go for it.

Even supposing the issue of old brains, hell, we're the Techpriest Primarch. If we're as good at the arts of Magus Biologis as we are at any field of science, that likely won't even pose an issue.

However we achieve it, basically I'd like our mark to be that we truly fulfilled the duty of the Machine: Service to Mankind.

"For this sums up the Lore and the Logic: 'Technology is the application of knowledge to the betterment of mankind'."

>>5072147
>Simply go back to what he was doing, maybe try and make sense of what the fuck he just did
Though I know this is risky to not cover up, I don't think we can really do so considering everyone noticed that something happened. Also making sure we fix up the gellar field generator after what we did is probably important and we are the operational commander we don't need to lead from the front when we have the command network

Actually QM what would covering it up entail?

>Much of his surface level skin was torched black and his eyes did not work the way they should

Yet more evidence of the weakness of flesh

>>5072676
So you want to make sure that machines with barely a bit of machine spirits or man in them operate large forge worlds alone, while humanity lives in leasure in agri-worlds? That feels like it's begging for man of iron 2: eletric boogaloo, since you know, it was what humanity was doing at the time.
Cawl is a barely heretek, and is not a model to be followed. You got to remember that the taboos exist for a reason, our refusal to study or use the xeno's tech, and adherence to ritual is what helped turn away Tzeentch's temptations temptaions for example.
This new heresy we commited is not something we should be proud of and keep repeating, unless we want to have a dark mechanicus primarch of course. Playing as a corrupted one would separate it from the other 2 quests.

>>5072719
Well they would obviously be controlled and observed by Tech Priests, like Kastellans they wouldn't be much capable of independent thought or action without direction. The whole servitorism is exactly how the Imperium gets away with robots without Men of Iron risks.

I only propose it on such a larger scale as to relieve Forge Worlds of the need for any human workers toiling under supervision of Techpriests.

And in any case, even were we so arrogant and ambitious, we're hardly alone in that regard. Lest we forget Magnus or Lorgar.

Still, I do not believe that "Forge Worlds should be manned primarily by Servitors and Tech Priests in such a way they need little to no human labour" isn't an extremely radical idea. Various Ark Mechanicus and Space Marine vessels are known to have little to no human serf interaction and have many automated features not available to the standard IG ships such as working Macrocannon autoloaders that don't need thousands of people with ropes to haul them into place.

>>5072719
>Cawl is a barely heretek, and is not a model to be followed.
Also that is what the Admech would say but

Remember, OOC, Cawl is alongside Guilliman one of the saviors of the Imperium and the creator of the Primaris Marines as well as other innovations that Guilliman and the Custodes themselves have stepped in to say "We declare that Innovation is no longer heresy" type deal. So it is all relative

In any case we aren't reintroducing AI or anything so radical imo. Just improving the quality and methodology of implementing of servitors which is an accepted technology. I doubt anyone would qualm against us taking out the bits that feel pain or fear and just shuffling the human element out of forge worlds to replace them with more servitors. That would assuredly create more efficiencies as servitors need no sleep, minimal air or nutrients, and don't have the issues of rebellion or dissention that humans do when grinding themselves to the literal bone in the manufactorums

>>5072733
Oh, it's definatly a good idea, but it has to be held back.
The ships are that, ships, not planets, this level of automation would require quite a lot of interconnectivity between different planets, and the nature of the warp fucks things up quite a lot.
Also, don't use two corrupted primarchs to defend being arrogant in tech-heresy, that sounds counter-intuitive.
How about just try to bring humanity to a level of civilized worlds, without any hive worlds because those are retarded? Than just have some forge worlds and agri-knights worlds. It should give enough self sulficiency to the imperium overall without a drop in productivity, have enough that servitors can be volunteers (except the agri-knights, serfs get a duty), a increase in an quality of life.
>>5072737
I said you wanted to bring back AI because said to reduce the brain used to near nothing, and it's there just for show. If you backpadle that than of course the counter-argument falls apart.

Just take things easy, one step at a time, and no hubris saying that we are going to do the impossible through bad means, because while we ourselves can probably gaet away with it, we can't be everywhere.
We get rid of the defenses against corruptions, and people are going to start slliping in when we aren't looking at them.
Also the new lore is shit and author fiated, so OOC I still hate Cawl

>>5072745
I just think that it's not at all unwarranted to dream of better and to try to do the difficult things.

Guilliman was able to create planets with manufactorums on every one of his 500 worlds which were able to achieve an equillibrium and avoid radical climate change and devastation so prevalent elsewhere in the Imperium. He could enact the change he so desired by application of willpower and the resources he had at hand.

If we can do that with just a handful of planets when we lay our hands on them, I will be satisfied. Forge Worlds for Techpriests and Servitors. Civilized worlds for men. Each contributing something valuable to the other without resulting in the detriment of either populace.

As for the "Backpedaling" thing that's fair but the Imperium itself is notoriously hypocritical and two faced even in setting and in character. Russ is anti-psyker, but his rune priests are "totally not psykers guys". They are able to achieve the end goals, even if the means are contradictory.

Like I said, what I want to do if we ever get to a phase where we can control several planets is to attempt it on the small scale and then go bigger. Just like how Guilliman did it. And by golly if he is the logistic primarch, imagine how much better we can be if we are the Techpriest Primarch and have this technology and calculative power at our side. Even he was able to factor in the difficulties of warp travel.

>>5072745
But basically, while all these concerns and such are 100% valid, dare I say even accurate, I just want to lean into the fact that: Hey, we're a primarch. Going against the grain to achieve success is our modus operandi.

Primarchs are there to achieve the impossible, to make the difficult seem easy, to do the things that any other human, even as gifted as a space marine or an archmagos, would find impossible.

Guilliman created 500 worlds at peace with as minimal grim-darkness as possible in a galaxy full or grim dark
Fulgrim conquered a single planet with only 7 space marines, and two mortals
Magnus stopped an entire starship from crushing him and an entire city to death by sheer willpower

So many impossible feats were done by the primarchs. To make a peaceful forge world/civilized world existence that minimizes human misery and maximizes output in a way that glorifies the Machine God and our Father is something I think our guy can tackle. Maybe even in a way that surprises all of us.

>>5072746
Like I said anon, it's a good idea, and a good goal, it just have to hold it back a bit, and do things one step at a time.
I think I said this before, we should work on what we develop on after the war, if we go for biology and cyber we can try to improve servitor, if we study teleportation or gellar field, we can try to set up specialized worlds, if we try everything at once it will become a mess.
Thing is, we should never go for completly brainless servitors, not because of hypocrisy, but because that would not end well, probably either possession or rebellion, or both in the worst case scenario.
>>5072748
Oh yeah, we doing the impossible is possible, what I'm worried is the normal humans that have to deal with what we leave behind.
We resisting chaos even after having our faith shaken because we start doing a bit of tech heresy? Totally possible. Making sure that the pressudure to servitorized is painless and not an eternual torture? Child's play. The people that we are going to be responsible for it? Now that's another history.
So it would be better to make sure our followers are more tradionalist, and that the servitornprocusure is not extremely complex and revolutionary, to make sure it happens correctly, even thoufh it would be less efficient.
At least that's what I think it would be the better option.

>>5072756
And I manage to mangle the word procedure twice. Nice.

>>5072147
I'll change from
>>5072680
To
>Best to, uh, cover up this Tech Heresy here.

Hopefully my IP is still the same

>>5072756
Mhm.

Although, "what will humans do when we're gone" was actually tackled with, and rather well, by Guilliman too.

Guilliman introduced the protocol for his death during the battle of Tholas, much to his Space Marines dismay, but he told them he is more than his body or his life. "Look around me" he said, pointing to his books, his words, his teachings "this is me." He distilled his very essence into his legion, and it lived on beyond him.

And the 500 worlds lived on for 10,000 years even beyond his death, and while not the same glory as they were in the great Crusade, still outshone the rest of the Imperium as it did before in terms of quality.

But uh, otherwise yes small things at a time. We have to focus on the immediate tasks at hand.

>>5072760
>>5072767
Alright, I love all this but I think you guys have written enough. I'mma mark this topic down in my notes and the arguments, then when the time comes you guys can choose from those choices.

>>5072868
What a shame, I was gaving fun discussing, having a civiled argument in 4chan is rare, specially these days.
But I do agree we have been hogging the quest too much, so I will stop.

>>5072868
Apologies QM. Although, I wouldn't be surprised if our boy is more than capable of having these arguments in his multitasking enhanced brain even while fighting warp fiends and contemplating the effects of the empyrean

>>5072874
Indeed, TalOS is capable of a lot of things because he is a Primarch. I will say if you guys can plan it out fairly competently it can probably be done. I will only make hard stops when its approaching War in Heaven levels of shenanigans and similar.

>>5072879
I will however say this warning, whatever you create is not immune to 30k and 40k bullshit.

TalOS is gonna sit in the corner for a bit
>>5072152
>>5072155
>>5072158
>>5072169
>>5072449
>>5072168


Go join them!!
>>5072398
>>5072591

Cover that heresy up!
>>5072382
>>5072766

Alright, the future shall be interesting.

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It was a little difficult to move, TalOS realized as he felt his mind continue to snap right back in place. That was a really good description, snapping back into place. For that minute of overclocking the Gellar Field TalOS’s brain was snapped out of its socket, used as a cogitator processor, and then snapped back into his body after the event was finished.

Yup, that is what happened, and damn did it make walking around hard.

Still this was in relation to TalOS’s body, which he was realizing was damaged greatly by the action he commited. His mind was working fine, maybe even a little faster. Organs and processes that TalOS previously had were currently shut down allowing his mind to focus on the more important things in life.

Yup. And that more important thing was making sure every single Machine God damn Xenos was dead!

With that thought TalOS made his way towards the nearby terminal. With a little bit of shakiness TalOS inserted his mechanrite and started to once more connect with the internal systems of Onus Probandi. A few seconds passed and he was once more in the same position that he was just before the Plastoids attempted to breach his barrier.

Reviewing the records; the Overclocking event not only affected those who were near the Gellar Field, but the entire ship. Such an event had caused what was to be a grueling fight into a slaughter of the Plastoids. If it was reported correctly it seems that TalOS’s theory on Psykers needed some help for the attack not only stopped those casting spells but did something to incapacitate them.

If such a thing is true then TalOS had just found the greatest weapon against the Plastoids. An event that TalOS would address as Psi Suppression for the current moment, Xenos Psykers and their psi sensitive fellows must have had their minds attacked directly. Or maybe it's better to say TalOS had severed something that made their mind function at normal capacity, making any drastic change a terminal event?

TalOS was by all things intrigued by these facts. And the aftermath of his actions were still striking at the enemy lines. TalOS watched from the nearby vision ports as the Acillians and Skitarii pierced the bridge with relative ease and started a full scale slaughter of the enemy ranks!

Even the most decorated of the Plastoids, the Kassidus, was laid low as it stood there in a near incoherent stupor.

Overall, 68% of Skitarii survived and 2 Acillian died in the attack. However only 36% of Tech Priests survived the onslaught as the enemy’s mission was clearly assassination. The Dux Dominus was found incinerated by the Plastoids on the bridge.

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Feeling happy of his accomplishment TalOS relaxed himself. His fleshy body was far more weakened by the attack that previously anticipated. Numerous nerves were shot and his flesh was singed. Even with his immense vitality and personal knowledge of his body it would take something of two weeks to recover.

This fact did not stop the Primarch from operating Particep Semper, but it prevented the Dominus from joining his sons on the initial teleportation planetside.

As he analysid his own wounds five Acillians quickly came barreling through the room. One of them bolted as he yelled towards his brothers, +Get me a carrier for our Father, now!+

The other quickly got a pallet servitor and placed TalOS on top of it. However, just as they were doing that, numerous Tech Priests came into the room looking at the Gellar Field that was clearly tampered with. The Acillians were prepared to adhere to their father until TalOS shot towards them commands to stand down.

+What in the manner of technocratic heresy is this!+ Declared one that TalOS quickly identified as Dominus CL3RK.

One of them, quickly identified as Enginseer J4CK studied the system before jacking himself into the Gellar Field, +System is performing ten percent more efficiently with several new strings. Hardware was edited by a Tech Priest while the wetware… I am being denied access.+

+Denied! Was the Machine Spirit infected by whatever code attacked Onus Probandi!?+

+No, the Machine Spirit is simply resisting my interfacing with it. It does not recognize my attempts to interface with it as a possible user, though I had cleared with the Head Enginseer these permissions before we left Lucius. This prevents me from accessing the Command Logs.+

In these moments several more Tech Priests came crashing into the room. They were all astonished by the state TalOS was in, but even more so the information about the Gellar Field being passed through the Noosphere network.

Dominus CL3RK turned from the grand machine and faced TalOS, +Can you explain what happened here, Acting Dux Dominus TalOS.+

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TalOS slowly sat himself up upon being called upon, his flesh still fried from the manipulation, +I have modified the Gellar Field to Overclock, taking in a series of its processes and modifying via the knowledge granted by the Machine God.+

+And what was the result?+ This time Enginseer J4CK turned towards TalOS with a firmness and curiosity, +Was what happened here what turned the tides of our battle?+

TalOS gave them a firm nod while quickly sending them all a makeshift package of data, +Here is the evidence of cause and effect. Further studies I will request here and now, but I believe the Psi Suppression effect speaks for itself.+

At that moment numerous Tech Priests started to analyze the data given, which also gave TalOS a moment to study all of those present. There was the subtle feeling of terror, not anger, being exhibited by the faintest of actions by the Priests.

What TalOS did to them earlier, interfacing the majority here with Particep Semper, was still shaking them to their very souls.

+Information affirms the claim.+ Declared the voice of Dominus D3X as he navigated himself to the front of the crowd, +This action has shown us that Dominus TalOS’s actions saved the fleet. But not just this one, but all of them.+

Quickly there were murmurs and talks upon the sphere, numerous chat rooms that all the present and those not present were in. TalOS however was denied access to all of them, but he knew for certain they knew every word that Dominus D3X said was true.

+While the actions of TalOS are noted, the heresy committed here is still that!+ Declared the Dominus, +He has perverted the sacred Machine, a Gellar Field, to the point where it could have collapsed and killed us all! And there is no sanctioned ritual here, and if one has broken from Ritual they have Broken from Faith!+

That was a damning declaration. A very damning one. While it has not been put forth, these declarations were grounds for Excommunication. Excommunication of a Dominus was hard, but TalOS was among peers and thus they had a lot more power.

Also the fact was that at this point, there was no one to stop them. Well, there was the Acillian, but TalOS did not feel ordering a massacre of the Tech Priests was the smartest move.

>Declare at this moment TalOS is a chosen of the Machine God, and it can be proven!
>Give them the knowledge about the Gellar Field, that should be enough to get them off him.
>Make them realize they are only alive because TalOS did all of this. ALL OF IT.
>Point out that TalOS still asked the machine.
>Write in

>>5073025
>Point out that TalOS still asked the machine.

We probably need a good write in combining a few important parts to work things out.

>>5073025
>Point out that TalOS still asked the machine.

>>5073025
>Declare at this moment TalOS is a chosen of the Machine God, and it can be proven!
it's Primarch Charisma time.
Lorgar did it
Guilliman and Dorn did it
Now it's our turn

>>5073047
We should also note that this is a similar situation to Particep Semper, we performed the rituals that we did knew of, than proceded ti comune with the machine, and asked for their assistance in the name of the Machine God, and just like the god machine, the machine spirit answered, and brought salvation to Lucius and it's faithful.

>>5073025
>Point out that TalOS still asked the machine.

>>5073025
>Point out that TalOS still asked the machine.
>Give them the knowledge about the Gellar Field, that should be enough to get them off him. (Just the basics for everyone and the full details to the superiors)

>>5073025
>Point out that TalOS still asked the machine.

>>5073069
I'm going to bed, but if I don't attempt to write-in this now it's going to bother me. Rewrite this mess into something coherent if nescessary.
>There was no ritual broken Domini, but I do see a broken faith, and it does not come from me. For in that moment, I did perform the rites of maintenece, and proceded to commune with the blessed machine spirit of the Gellar Field, and asked for it to deliver upon us salvation in the name of the Machine God. And it answered my prayers, and guided my work, to preserve the faithful.
>For this is not too disimilar to what happened with Particep Semper and me, on the day we forged our compact. I performed the little rites that I knew, and communed with it's machine spirit, and it answered. All that it asked was for me to do the impossible, which I achieved, and led to the reawakining of the god machine.
>When I consumed the flesh of the dead xenos, I fell back to meditations upon the laws of our faith, for there was no ritual for such a ceremony. And it was them that shielded my mind and alloed me to obtain the information.
>Is it so hard to believe that the Machine God has blessed our forge world, to stand not only against these foul xenos, but their mockery of a deity, and immaterium masters? To trust in the most fundamental laws and rites? To believe in the rites of the machine spirits themselves, the most pure form of the Motive Force?

>>5073025
>There was no ritual broken Domini, but I do see a broken faith, and it does not come from me. For in that moment, I did perform the rites of maintenece, and proceded to commune with the blessed machine spirit of the Gellar Field, and asked for it to deliver upon us salvation in the name of the Machine God. And it answered my prayers, and guided my work, to preserve the faithful.
>For this is not too disimilar to what happened with Particep Semper and me, on the day we forged our compact. I performed the little rites that I knew, and communed with it's machine spirit, and it answered. All that it asked was for me to do the impossible, which I achieved, and led to the reawakining of the god machine.
>When I consumed the flesh of the dead xenos, I fell back to meditations upon the laws of our faith, for there was no ritual for such a ceremony. And it was them that shielded my mind and alloed me to obtain the information.
>Is it so hard to believe that the Machine God has blessed our forge world, to stand not only against these foul xenos, but their mockery of a deity, and immaterium masters? To trust in the most fundamental laws and rites? To believe in the rites of the machine spirits themselves, the most pure form of the Motive Force?

Precisely to the point

>>5073111
Look you guys can use this add on if you want later. If I gotta be honest this explanation does not hit the mark to me and does not actually explain why what you did is not illegal. Your Thesis, that faith was broken probably by the Domini, was not mentioned even though I am pretty sure you wanted to. At least that way your attackers are discredited.

I'm saying this now so I don't have half the thread saying they want this to happen, even though it does not click in my head. Explain it to me if I am missing something.

>Instead of bickering I relied on the Machine God for our Salvation and he granted it! Can you all say the same!?

>>5073025
>Point out that TalOS still asked the machine.
>Declare at this moment TalOS is a chosen of the Machine God, and it can be proven!
>when asked how give them the knowledge about the Gellar Field

>>5072719
Cawl is a snowflake SI perhaps. Also, Men of Iron happened either due human arrogance, chaos fuckery, or Eldar sabotaging the programming, it's not clear, although I bet for the last two. Humanity was kinda like Star Trek's own before the Fall.

Lastly, AMechs are not as extremists during 30k, for good and bad. Even in WH40k there's innovations that are accepted if you have the right contacts. Or "find" a totes legit STC.

>Declare at this moment TalOS is a chosen of the Machine God, and it can be proven!

Time to take charge, as a proper Primarch would!

>>5073025 #
>Point out that TalOS still asked the machine.
>Declare at this moment TalOS is a chosen of the Machine God, and it can be proven!
>when asked how give them the knowledge about the Gellar Field

We are not crazy! They are crazy!

>>5073233
Ok, let me try to explain.
1- Before doing the overloading we did perform a ritual or relied on the teachings, so our action was of faith, not desperation.
2 - There was no ritual for what we did, but when we communed with the machine spirit, it guided our work. Therefore it was a ritual given to us by the Motive Force itself.
3 - it is not the first time we perform an action that's not within the rituals, being the Particep Semper and the consumption, and both of them were done through basic rituals and faith, helped save Lucius, and were approved by the Fabricator General.
4 - Therefore, by not accepting what we did as a faithful ritual, they are breaking with faith, even though they have not broken the ritual.
Cutting the attack on them is possible though, I did write it in a sleepy haze.

>>5073098
>>5073331
supporting this as well

So after a little bit of reading I thought I’d throw my 2 cents into the mix.

Tech heresy and the associated hereteks are based on a few fundamental things; the pursuit of all knowledge regardless of costs and without regard to strictures; which given our action was not based on the acquisition of knowledge (I.e. we didn’t mess with the gellar field with the express purpose to learn more about it, even if the end result is that we were gifted with knowledge) and that we followed ritual throughout I don’t think this applies to what we did. Secondly is that tech heresy and hereteks focus on manipulation of the warp/immaterium, hence it could be argued that the gellar field doesn’t fall into this category at all as rather than seeking to manipulate the warp/immaterium its purpose is to deny it outright (and by denying it it is thus able to project a bubble of real space), for the purpose of safer travel; if we committed tech heresy by boosting the field anytime the field is activated could also be considered an act of tech heresy using the same logic, as by activating the field the warp is “manipulated” however given the wide spread usage of the fields this clearly isn’t the case thus a precedent is set in our favour

Of the various types of tech heresy what we did would be closest to either malifica or failure to renounce the empyric device, both of which are similar (the pursuit of technology to manipulate the warp/immaterium), however this is more commonly associated with the manipulation of the warp to fuse machine and daemon or bind daemons, which clearly isn’t what we did and as I said above it could be argued gellar fields don’t manipulate the warp

Even the lesser tech heresy of misuse of technology can’t be argued as that applies to the application/adaptation of technology for purposes that it wasn’t intended for, the gellar field is intended to deny the warp and that is what we did with it, the side effects of the warp being denied was that the xenos got lobotomised

>>5073331
support
ignore >>5073257

>>5073025
>Point out we asked the machine

Right, I'll put my own spin on this. But the basic points are like the others.
>Fellow Domini, from my communion with the machines, they had favoured me with their knowledge. Pleading for salvation had rewarded me with the knowledge and ability to enact the changes to the geller field, a revelation handed down through the motive force. Some of you may doubt this, may doubt me, and I am glad that you hold tightly to the faith even when the potential that it had been broken had saved us. Not blinded by the seeming benefits of faithlessness.
>But I tell you, and I have shown you, as I have once before that the machine god has blessed both myself and forge world lucius in his scorn of the Alien. I entreated the god machine and by his grace, Partis Sempter walks once more through nothing but faith and revelation. I entreated the machine God's laws and again they shielded me from the xenos and delivered us the lore with which to crush them. Now I have entreated the machine god a third time, and a third time has revelation and faith been rewarded with a weapon and knowledge to protect this fleet. Tell me now, my fellow Domini, do you believe in your truest sense of reason and faith, that the Machines would favour me so if I had broken with faith? If my acts were heresy and not revelation, would they refuse your entrance? Would partis sempter still walk? Would I not work to dishonour my world, my station, my parentage and my god by concealing my act like some criminal rather than lay bare the fruits of this glorious communion? You know I had the time and ability to do so.

>So I ask you, my peers and fellows. With all this laid before you, have you any reasonable doubt for my faith and any grounds for accusations of heresy that do not also point to divine inspiration?"

Hammer home that we are doing this out of divine relevation, the machines love us so they told us to do it, this is normal for us, and moreover we are saving this damn fleet.