>>5059400

"You worry too much" Kanzeon says through her avatar, whose seated behind you, lounging besides a board covered in liquid metal, which she traces her fingertips through, mimicking the motions of a painter with each digit "I believe, a proper poetic phrase for this, would be, "Do not worry if a bird will be able to return to its nest from flight". This is more natural to me than walking in the living puppet we engineered together. I am just...trying to decide what will be the most impactful way for me to approach the world"

You turn back to her, smiling and thoroughly intrigued.

"Approaching the border between the lands held by that butcher and my bitch of a sister would certainly have an effect on the defender's morale, but I wouldn't want to cause trouble and excite those two idiot slaves into action" She muses, pouting as she adopts the posture and mien of a noble lady, kicking one leg over the other before running a hand through her luxurious mane of black hair "The old capital would cause a stir, but visiting the grave of Kuan Im...wouldn't be good for my mental health. Could have fun with the Shuni, be treated like a goddess for a few moments before I explain that I'm not, that'd be entertaining"

She taps a finger upon her pursed lips, eyes turning to the ceiling of the chamber as she decorates it with a thought, adorning it with beautiful carvings of herself being pampered and worshiped, before quickly erasing them and replacing them with images of her scolding her former adherents while you look on approvingly. She giggles at the visual joke she herself crafted and turns her eyes towards the field of clouds in front of her truly titanic body.

"Nothing is a center of commerce and civilization, but the difficulty is its verticality. It'd be difficult to approach sight without risking structural damage to its growing infrastructure or the woodlands" She sighs, pressing two fingers together on her temple, before her eyes widen and fill with a mischievous glow, like jade pressed held next to a flame "oh! Oh that's an idea! Approach like a phantom fortress or ghost city above the imperial palace! From what I know of the Long-Jianese, they'll take my appearance as a good omen and immortalize it in poetry, songs and theater!"

You shudder, imagining the scene as you stride to your lover's side and sit on the couch next to her as she cackles to herself, wearing a truly terrifying expression.

"Oh you're being dramatic Lieren, despite the fact I'm a colony ship, I've as graceful as any smaller craft, much more so considering the vessel IS my body" She sneers, biting her thumb as she leans forward, eyes twinkling with mirth as she herself imagines the scene she intends to create.

"Jinhai would appreciate it, not sure about Daiyu or their children. The courtiers will be driven into a brief panic, surely. If Shirong is at court, I imagine, despite knowing your true nature,"
Cont

"he'll feel his creations inferior to yourself which may lessen his will to carry out his research and great responsibilities" You list off to keep yourself from fretting too much over Kanzeon's mischief as she races through the skies, the chamber you're in ringing like a singing bowl or struck chime

"And Shan would wonder how much explosives would be required to destroy me, Tao Dandan would want to overseer me personal defense grid and Yunru would weep when he saw the capability of medical bays" Kanzeon dully details, sounding board as she leans closer to you, relaxing on the couch she created to rest her secondary body on "Stop worrying, it'll be fun and won't cause the havoc you dread"

"Unless someone is so gripped with terror they leap from a high tower or the glass bridge" You mutter, causing Kanzeon to lightly smack the back of your head

"Stop worrying" She sternly commands, before she raises a finger and for dramatic flair, snaps it.

Her voice begins to be broadcast to the world below, reading the opening statement of the journey as you watch the lake surrounding the imperial palace come into view beneath the emerald glow Kanzeon makes her body produces as her vast shadow dwarfs both it and the island where the Palace sits upon. Without the light show, it'd seem as though an unnatural light had befallen the new capital and its heart.

You can only imagine how Yin Lei, if he is present at his family's estate, is reacting to hearing the gospel that dictates his life being read as if spoken from the heavens themselves as emerald glow burns through the fog.
_
The black general had frozen, dropping a tea cup as he spoke with his nephew and the heir apparent to the Yin family, Yin Delun, as they watched over their once misbegotten cousins of the north. The cup shattered into a thousand shards as his eyes widened as he gazed out towards the horizon, as if the sight he witnessed had turned him to stone. The servants of his family had stopped their work, and the children of that bastard dog of the Yan rushed to his side, seeking protection from what they must've thought to be a monster

Yin Delun glanced to his uncle, and watched as his mouth, framed by a greying beard and the scars he wore, began to move, whispering the words that carried down from the heavens simultaneously with it

The Unbroken Thunder's howl fell to his knees, clutching the prayer beads he kept around his mouth, as his whispers turned into feverish mantra. His eyes,flecked with tears, glowed with the fires of zealotry.

"Tch hah" Yin Delun Sighed "I suppose our conversation will have to continue at a later date uncle"
_

"Lieren?" Jinhai's voice curiously curled from the radio at your hip "I suppose this is your doing? If it is not too bothersome, could you tell me exactly what you're doing, my brother by oath and life? Half of my court has began to pray like the monks you teach and the rest are cowering in their quarters crying about the wrath of the heavenly courts!"

>>5059402

"While it is somewhat amusing" Daiyu interrupted

"We were holding a council detailing the preparations for the coming war, allocating resources and regiments, and while I respect you above all men except the black general and my husband, I am" The empress coos, her honeyed words hiding poison "Am somewhat incensed by this mischief, as grand as it is, if only because you of all men should be"

"No, its me, I just wanted to see you in person" Kanzeon coos "Did you think I was a woman born of flesh and blood, dear Daiyuuuu"

And then the empress fainted from shock.
_

Daiyu, with still shaking and pale from the shock of Kanzeon's appearence, sits across from you and her avatar, besides her husband, who unlike her is admiring her construction rather than looking like she fears she'll be swept away on a river of living steel. Her attendants hold a silk bag holding chunks of ice to her head, while Jinhai pets her hand to keep her calm.

Kanzeon smirks. Daiyu looks to you with tired incredulity.

"Lieren. Kanzeon is a ship larger than any city" She states quietly

You nod

"She is older than the history of Shangrala" She says, closing her eyes

You nod, Kanzeon frowns

"She is born from a mass human sacrifice" She whispers

You nod after a moment of hesitation

"And...and Shangrala is not mankind's cradle?" She says, her voice wavering

You nod, She collaspes against Jinhai

"And you fell in love with her, before she made herself an avatar, meaning, you wed yourself to.." She mutters

"Kanzeon" You and Jinhai say in unison

"I feel like my head is about to burst open" Daiyu complains "None of this makes any sense"

"Oh, and Lieren chose to celebrate by recreating Dragons, among other extinct creatures native to your world" Kanzeon chirps, clearly enjoying herself a little too much

"WHAT!?" Daiyu cries out, more amazed then shocked now

"Please, Lady Kanzeon, stop shocking my wife, she'll faint again" Jinhai scolds the being many eons older than himself

"Sorry, Lieren's mischievous has rubbed off on me" Kanzeon says, bowing her head humbly

"Shouldn't this mean we don't have to worry about Nitya Sinha and his horde of barbarians?" Daiyu nearly shouts

Kanzeon's expression darkens, and she tells the emperor and his empress of Avalokiteśvara. And so the atmosphere turns from joyous to grim.

What do you do now, Lieren?

>Offer to show Jinhai and Daiyu the stars, while explaining exactly how you plan to overcome Nitya sinha and his bride

>Explain your own nature as a primarch and the existence of your father and brothers, since now is as good of a time as any

>Lighten the mood by explaining how easily Kanzeon can produce weapons of war as well as marvels of science.

>Apologize to Daiyu, and offer to watch her children as penance for the shock Kanzeon caused her.

>Write in

>>5059403
>Offer to show Jinhai and Daiyu the stars, while explaining exactly how you plan to overcome Nitya sinha and his bride
>Lighten the mood by explaining how easily Kanzeon can produce weapons of war as well as marvels of science.
>Apologize to Daiyu, and offer to watch her children as penance for the shock Kanzeon caused her.
We can explain Primarchs and our father later, I think we dropped enough bullshit in their lap for today.
And we should focus on Nitya for now anyway.

>>5059403
>>Offer to show Jinhai and Daiyu the stars, while explaining exactly how you plan to overcome Nitya sinha and his bride
>>Apologize to Daiyu, and offer to watch her children as penance for the shock Kanzeon caused her.
Our wife brings out the Wukong in us, that's for sure.

>>5059403
I support >>5059422

I don't see now as the time to talk about being a primarch. It may make her faint a bit more.

>>5059403
>>Offer to show Jinhai and Daiyu the stars, while explaining exactly how you plan to overcome Nitya sinha and his bride
>>Apologize to Daiyu, and offer to watch her children as penance for the shock Kanzeon caused her.

>>5059422
+1

I wonder if Jinhai will call us out for using an apology to play with our God kids.

>>5059476
>You know, you don't have to scare the shit out of my entire court just to have an excuse to play with your god-children
>You can just ask

>>5059403
>Offer to show Jinhai and Daiyu the stars, while explaining exactly how you plan to overcome Nitya sinha and his bride
>Apologize to Daiyu, and offer to watch her children as penance for the shock Kanzeon caused her.
Only way to deal with Nitya is blitzkrieg, load up the entire army into Kanzeon and combat drop as close to chaos shipfu as possible.
Kanzeon focuses on suppressing her sister and shooting down any flying fortresses while the army and Lieren march in and kill her and Nitya while they are as unprepared as possible.
Only risk is if parts of his army break off to inflict war crimes/attack sister ships outside their borders as a spite fueled last act before defeat.
Also we just made neo women of stone Kanzeon a public fact for the planet, we must contact Dad and Malcador ASAP to tackle that political landmine before it has a chance to blow up. If we are lucky we can show up at Terra early enough to grant the Emperor massive boons that let him bend the hell out of the canon time line at worst.

>>5059403
>Lighten the mood by explaining how easily Kanzeon can produce weapons of war as well as marvels of science.
>>5059488
If you paid attention you'd realize the Emperor already met with Mechanicus. The proof is they have access to servitors.

>>5059403
>Explain your own nature as a primarch and the existence of your father and brothers, since now is as good of a time as any
>Lighten the mood by explaining how easily Kanzeon can produce weapons of war as well as marvels of science.

>>5059403
> Offer to show Jinhai and Daiyu the stars, while explaining exactly how you plan to overcome Nitya Sinha and his bride.
> Explain your own nature as a Primarch and the existence of your father and brothers, since now is as good of a time as any.

>>5059478
But that makes it too easy!

>>5059501
Since we are the second primarch both in name and found canonically, the emperor might show up with mechanicus, which means he and them find out about the new men of stone still being alive, which could make shit on Mars utterly hilarious.

>>5059403
>Offer to show Jinhai and Daiyu the stars, while explaining exactly how you plan to overcome Nitya sinha and his bride
>Lighten the mood by explaining how easily Kanzeon can produce weapons of war as well as marvels of science.
>Apologize to Daiyu, and offer to watch her children as penance for the shock Kanzeon caused her.

>>5059501
Was that from when Lieren homed in on his one son who was meeting with Malcador and the Emperor? Servitors are common stuff and the Mechanicus was on Terra looting stuff when possible and selling their services and tech independently, so big E would certainly have a lot of Magi on payroll but he isn't the omnissiah with a eternal binding agreement with the cult mechanicum until the treaty of mars.
Honestly acausal warp bullshit could fuck us, Lieren could have traveled back in time two hundred years when he last talked to Dad and he could be a day from physically reaching Lieren in his crusade fleet.

>>5059597
Fucking warp and it's time chamging bullshit.
Can't wait to find the other gods of order and start beating some rules into it.
Might have to mellow them out first though.

>>5059597
Warp storms have stabilize enough in this period for travel safely across the stars for the most, otherwise the races of the galaxies wouldn't have been able to even exit their solar systems.
That said i don t think we are near enough for run to Terra, since Shangrila is a planet that was used by mankind to save it self from the rebellion. Being near the core systems of mankind it s not the best chances for survival, unless Shangrila system is hiding in plain sight. For example in a region of space that wasn't considered worth enough for prior human colonization efforts to happen on large scale or to happen at all.
It would be not that safe as well with one ship to do this travel, even if DAOT. There is plenty of pirates, slavers and worse in space right now. Fleets are needed.

>>5059501
>The proof is they have access to servitors.
Servitors are ubiquitous across human civilizations with enough technology and memory of the Cybernetic Revolt. He hasn't met with the Mechanicus yet since Terra isn't unified. He secures Terra, then Luna, then Mars. He hasn't even done the first yet.

>>>5059403
>> Offer to show Jinhai and Daiyu the stars, while explaining exactly how you plan to overcome Nitya Sinha and his bride.
>> Explain your own nature as a Primarch and the existence of your father and brothers, since now is as good of a time as any.

Voting for this

>>5059357
>To be fair Feng did throw some fucking hands against all the bird lady's personal guards despite his lame leg. Motherfucker can go ham against +1 catachan tier humans despite his injury. I feel pretty confident that he could go one on one with a space marine thanks to his close brotherly affiliation with Lieren, and being one of the original Panther bros.

Do you remember which thread that was in?

>>5059659
Thread 11.
Posts 4986834 is when he goes ro the trial and 4995727 is when Lieren notices they are together.
There are more mentions of their martiage after that.

>>5059669
Thanks for confirming that. Proves that feng is way more dangerous then just sniping.

I do put good odds on him being vindicare level snipping wise without their bullshit self guiding bullets.

>>5059566
>>5059597
>>5059607

Canonically we are the third or fourth depending on how you take the latest alpharius book.

Also the emperor found most of the primarchs when they were in their 30s. so we got time still.

>>5059422
support

>>5059566
the 2nd was found 3rd.
it Hours then Russ then Lieren.

>>5059674
>>5059701
It would be weird to have the planet be changed and the finding order remain exactly the same.

>>5059674
>>5059701
So this quest made new canon?

>>5059729
no? that's how it always was in canon. The big question is if you buy alpherius saying he was found first and raised by malcador or not which makes horus second.

Canonically it's always been Horus, Leman, 2nd primarch as the first three found.

Also it depends on when we emerged from the warps since the emperor again found most of the primarchs in their 20s to early 30s.

And lieren's only just past 10.

>>5059732
wait in the scene where Big E meets Lieren and Magnus, that doesnt count as finding them? Only communicating?

>>5059733
By finding I mean going to their planet and picking them up.

And since magnus had been talking to the emperor for years at that point apparently not according to GW.

>>5059734
Ah okay then.

Just had a thought, but is lieren the only primarch that could turn most of his companions into space marines via cloning and the lotus specter tech?

>>5059780
that seems out of character for Lieren especially with the parts of the journey that say all things end.

>>5059783
I didn't say he would, just that he's unique in that he has that as a possible option to do.

And it's mainly due to access to kanzeon.

>>5059403
>Offer to show Jinhai and Daiyu the stars, while explaining exactly how you plan to overcome Nitya sinha and his bride
>Apologize to Daiyu, and offer to watch her children as penance for the shock Kanzeon caused her
It's going to be really fucking sad when the primarchs start backstabbing each other now. Especially if prospero still happens

Did malal ever elaborate on what the psykers in the sect that picked up stuff from the wraithbone singers got?

>>5059403
>>Offer to show Jinhai and Daiyu the stars, while explaining exactly how you plan to overcome Nitya sinha and his bride
>>Explain your own nature as a primarch and the existence of your father and brothers, since now is as good of a time as any
>>Apologize to Daiyu, and offer to watch her children as penance for the shock Kanzeon caused her.

>>5059783
That will certainly make interacting with the necrons funny

>>5059674
We landed on a different planet than the canon 2nd though.

>>5059790
Yeah, Lieren is going to be messed up when he meets the imperium proper

>>5059422
>Support

>>5059403
>Write in
Ok here is the plan, we let Kanzeon
>Offer to show Jinhai and Daiyu the stars, while explaining exactly how you plan to overcome Nitya sinha and his bride.
^ Just those three go up while we stay down upon the surface and...

>Apologize to Daiyu, and offer to watch her children as penance for the shock Kanzeon caused her.
With our other adopted kids. Get some good bonding time in there but also not leaving the capital unmanned.

We should probably try to contact New Varro planet. They're a Fallout expy right? Power armor and pewpew lasers. Super soldier experiments, stable plasma weaponry, And hopefully pocket nukes with no fallout.

By the time Emps gets to us, we'll be on tech parity if not superior.

>>5059403

>Apologize to Daiyu, and offer to watch her children as penance for the shock Kanzeon caused her.

>Offer to show Jinhai and Daiyu the stars, while explaining exactly how you plan to overcome Nitya sinha and his bride

I really do love this fucking quest, even if the flowery stuff hurts me sometimes.

>>5059913
List for shit to do after the big war:
Help the living sisters
Scrap and/or repair the dead ones.
Make new soul amagamention for new ships somehow
Find New Varro
Hunt Kuam-Im and kick her ass again.

>>5059913
>They're a Fallout expy right?
Don't think so, pretty sure they're just the 1800s American West in space. Great Plains, Wild West, all that jazz, just with massive rattlesnakes instead of cows and cyborg bandits. Like that one Doctor Who episode, come to think of it.

>>5059403
>"Did you think I was a woman born of flesh and blood, dear Daiyuuuu"
Kanzeon confirmed for best ship grill
>She taps a finger upon her pursed lips, eyes turning to the ceiling of the chamber as she decorates it with a thought, adorning it with beautiful carvings of herself being pampered and worshiped, before quickly erasing them and replacing them with images of her scolding her former adherents while you look on approvingly. She giggles at the visual joke she herself crafted and turns her eyes towards the field of clouds in front of her truly titanic body.
And for reintroducing reaction images.

>Explain your own nature as a primarch and the existence of your father and brothers, since now is as good of a time as any
>Offer to show Jinhai and Daiyu the stars, while explaining exactly how you plan to overcome Nitya sinha and his bride

So this plan, I'm thinking we need to to engineer a biological weapon to contain their clone armies, but this sounds like pandora's box being opened. Maybe Kanzeon has a solution that doesn't involve complete environmental devastation.
Can we get mechas? We're the asian primarch after all.

>>5059926
Fix Feng's leg and Half-Jaw Hu's face
Find the Dai monk monastery that was one of the options to fighting Nurgle champion.
Visit the Basque/Bask
ALCHEMY + MANGUS

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>>Offer to show Jinhai and Daiyu the stars, while explaining exactly how you plan to overcome Nitya sinha and his bride
>>Explain your own nature as a primarch and the existence of your father and brothers, since now is as good of a time as any
>>Apologize to Daiyu, and offer to watch her children as penance for the shock Kanzeon caused her.

Can't remember, did Kanzeon get a face claim to help visualize her?

It occurs to me that with a war on the horizon, we have three previous engagements that I think are going to be very important to remember, the Treachery of the Turtles, the battle with the Kabal of the Stellar Hunt, and our Duel with Be'Lakor. Each could've gone better for Lieren and each can serve as lessons for future instances of combat, so here they are.

The former's lessons are pretty obvious and have been discussed many times previous, so I'll be brief. We need to think about how our orders will affect our allies, not just our enemies, especially their ramifications outside of the battle.

The fight against the Dark Eldar is one I only realized was a gaffe after rereading. We lost nearly 600 people to kill 53 because we were unwilling to put our caution aside and deal with them ourselves. That is a revolting fuck-up in hindsight and it's entirely on us. The lesson here is that over planning something is just as deadly a mistake as under planning. Sometimes we need to take risks and seize initiative, lest we cost others their lives. Would have exterminating the Kabal without the artillery of the detachment we were sent have taken longer? Most likely. But a belief inextricable from who Lieren is is that the preservation of life should be prioritized. And in a war where our enemy both outnumbers us and can recoup their losses quicker than we can by orders of magnitude, we need to try to keep as many soldiers as we can alive.

The lesson of the Be'Lakor fight is slightly contentious and slightly more meta than the other two, though it is present in them as well. We cannot have our cake and eat it too. To a degree, we can pick the easy way to do things so long as we pay a price. But if we start picking or try to come up with a way that's TOO easy, it's gonna bite us in the ass and we're gonna get the opposite of what we wanted. We are not Coldsteel the Hedgehog. We will not be teleporting behind anyone and instakilling them with glorious nippon steel folded over 1.8 gorillion times.

>TLDR: Actually learn from our mistakes for the love of god.

>>5060033
>The fight against the Dark Eldar is one I only realized was a gaffe after rereading. We lost nearly 600 people to kill 53 because we were unwilling to put our caution aside and deal with them ourselves. That is a revolting fuck-up in hindsight and it's entirely on us. The lesson here is that over planning something is just as deadly a mistake as under planning. Sometimes we need to take risks and seize initiative, lest we cost others their lives. Would have exterminating the Kabal without the artillery of the detachment we were sent have taken longer? Most likely. But a belief inextricable from who Lieren is is that the preservation of life should be prioritized. And in a war where our enemy both outnumbers us and can recoup their losses quicker than we can by orders of magnitude, we need to try to keep as many soldiers as we can alive.
I'm honestly not sure what you wanted us to do differently there beyond you know, spending months to years hunting them down by our selves.

>>5060033
There isn't really anything to learn from these anon. the dark eldar would have reaped an even heavier toll if we let them scurry about, belakor no one could have seen coming seeing as until then our warp experiments have been relatively safe. Lieren would have no expectation that he could rebirth a god by making the feel bad waves coalesce in a small area. As for the turtles, that is just the price of business anon, the kang still hate us despite being in the objective right and appeasing them and their heir. people will hate us and regret what we make them do eventually and their will be little to nothing we can do about it. such is the journey

>>5060108
>belakor no one could have seen coming
he's referring to the fire cage trap and the ensuing monologuing with Belakor, not the folly that lead to the battle itself.

>>5060063
There were 53 of them and we're a primarch. We killed three in 10 minutes while intentionally trying to be slow and methodical so we could learn their language. I can't fathom how you'd think it'd take years.
>>5060108
>There isn't really anything to learn from these anon.
This is wrong, both in-character and ooc.
>the dark eldar would have reaped an even heavier toll if we let them scurry about
All of them were in a single place, we'd only have had to make a scene and they'd all come to us.
>belakor no one could have seen coming seeing as until then our warp experiments have been relatively safe
See >>5060109
>As for the turtles, that is just the price of business anon, the kang still hate us despite being in the objective right and appeasing them and their heir
The Kang being butthurt isn't the issue. The issue is that through our short sightedness, our allies suffered needlessly.
>despite being in the objective right
There's no such thing, and if you want to look at it from their point of view, we were a lowborn usurper who used trickery and deceit to overthrow the lord who raised us up into a position of power and the rightful dynasty who facilitated such a thing. We had the moral high ground and made the best choice for the people of Yan, undeniably. But that isn't what you're saying.
>their will be little to nothing we can do about it
The whole point is that there is, in fact, something we can do about it. We can learn from past mistakes. I don't know if your stance is that we can't learn from them or if we didn't make them in the first place, but neither is true.

>>5059403
>>Apologize to Daiyu, and offer to watch her children as penance for the shock Kanzeon caused her.
spend some time with babys and then go off to murder motherfuckers

>>5060117
>There were 53 of them and we're a primarch. We killed three in 10 minutes while intentionally trying to be slow and methodical so we could learn their language. I can't fathom how you'd think it'd take years.

I guess you take the stance of fuck the people who they had taken and tortured. Which I should remind you we found even MORE after the army killed them all.

Calling the vote now.

Offer to show Jinhai and Daiyu the stars, while explaining exactly how you plan to overcome Nitya sinha and his bride:17
-Have Kanzeon do it in your place while you stay on the surface: 1

Lighten the mood by explaining how easily Kanzeon can produce weapons of war as well as marvels of science.:8

Apologize to Daiyu, and offer to watch her children as penance for the shock Kanzeon caused her.:14

Explain your own nature as a primarch and the existence of your father and brothers, since now is as good of a time as any:6

Total votes:20

So Lieren will apologize to Daiyu, offer to watch her and Jinhai's triplets and offer to show them the stars, and explain exactly how he plans to overcome Nitya Sinha and his bride.

Writing now

>>5059919
Thanks!

>>5059938
Zian's the one with the actually mangled face, Half Jaw Hu is called such cause he's missing around half his teeth.

>>5059930
Don't forget the Shaggy Spooks, Thundering Birds and Skinner Storms and nail melting heatwaves. New Varro is a death world, which is why a few of the refugees, like Long-Johns Michah have joined the brothers of the panther

Jinhai and Daiyu, upon learning that the gravest threat to worldwide prosperity and peace upon Shangrala, and in particular the Long-Jian way of life, need to rest upon the couch Kanzeon created for her avatar of living flesh and blood. Jinhai because he was struck by the same dread that fell over your mind when you reflected on the war to come, and Daiyu out of fear for her children and people. Their attendants, those who have no fated or gone catatonic from the shock of learning the true might of the Vishnu Kingdom, aid Kanzeon in her attempts to rouse them from their mutual stupors, bringing tea, burning incense, offering medicine intended to cure depression and raise spirits. Daiyu refuses all offer except for a massage of her shoulders suggested by one of her handmaidens, while Jinhai mutters a command to bring him Dragon Spit muddled in Roasted Oolong tea. After his demand has been met, both are centered and calm enough to return to the conversation and discussion at hand.

"We face a catastrophe worse than that averted by valiant Cao Yunru" Jinhai states grimly, eyes dark with the ferocity of a father and king seeing his children and charges threatened by a seeming unconquerable foe "We must act decisively, end Nitya Sinha's tyranny as we have so many others, with a single strike. But we cannot reach our hands around his neck, for he sits beyond a sea of motherless warriors and technology as wonderous as that from which Kanzeon is constructed and born from"

"We have an advantage on that front" Kanzeon says with a confident smirk "Unlike my wayward sister, I have taken the technology of the Eldar, and there are a few of their number under Lieren's protection"

"the same race that raided us from the stars?" Jinhai questions, tilting his head quizzically like a dog might when called to in an unfamiliar tone "I suppose that makes sense, no species is wholly malevolent or righteous"

"Humanity serves as an excellent example of that truth" Daiyu says, sighing contentedly as her stress is eased and worked away from her shoulders and back "But, from the Rifle that Bai the white tiger took from the victory at Heaven's warning writ in thunder, that was of their design was it not? It seems like an excessively cruel tool, which certainly speaks of these Elders' innate nature"

Kanzeon winces, wearing a truly hideous expression as she is forced to defend the Good Aeldari from asociation with the bad.

"A different civilization" She mutters "The one's Lieren guards are, adherents of the Journey. He'd be happy to explain how that came about, I'm sure"

"But we should talk about the Aeldari when they play no part in the discussion at hand" You say with a nod of your head "We're concerned with Nitya Sinha and his blood crazed Bride. Kanzeon and I have personally met both, and Jinhai is right to foretell a catastrophe of unimaginable scale"
cont

>>5060197

"You have a plan, don't you?" Daiyu asks tiredly, eyes distant but hopeful, as she was when you spared her untainted kin, a youthful burning hope surrounded by the shadows of fear "You always have a plan, you cut through the bone devouring fortress, took the capital in a night, killed Kamal Kanan and crushed his kingdom. You must have a trick or scheme ready to lure the butcher king to his doom"

Jinhai nodded in agreement, holding his wife's hand and pressing it just above his own heart.

"I can hear his thoughts as readily as my own" Kanzeon says solemnly "He has a plan, but it took both of us working tirelessly to even establish one approach to defeat the bastard, let alone several"

Jinhai glances to you, eyes narrowed and sharp. He is wearing the mask of an emperor.

"Then Nitya Sinha is even more treacherous of a foe than I thought" He states proudly, his compliment causing your cheeks to flush scarlet and warm.

"You honor me, Long-Jia Jinhai, my brother and emperor" You say, cupping your fists together as you bow "I would tell both you and Empress Daiyu how I plan to overcome Nitya Sinha and his endless forces, but first I would like to aproach you both with an offer and Daiyu with an apology"

"I was the one who made her faint" Kanzeon sighs through her teeth, closing her eyes as Daiyu smiled and shook her head

"And there would be no need for either of your to apologize, Lieren has a taste for theatrics, after all" She states, mockingly imitating your habit of lashing your arm outwards "And grand displays, despite his humble nature. I'd be almost disappointed if he allowed or forced you to be subdued in the announcement of your true nature, Kanzeon. After all, I remember clearly the day he executed my father, he scared half of his guests to death by his entrance alone. Besides, Jade like beauties like yourself are allowed to bask in the admiration of the masses from time to time"

"Tch" Kanzeon clicks her tongue, looking away bashfully "I suppose that is true"

"Then why have you not?" Jinhai asks his wife, that simple question turning her face redder than Wei's beard.

"That, I" Daiyu stumbles, before she shakes her head "Lets get this done with before we distract ourselves from the serious and pressing matter at hand, what is your offer, Lieren, so we can know you scheme to hang the butcher king"

Jinhai looks hopelessly confused by his wife's embarrassment.

"Well, I was going to offer to watch the three young heirs as penance for the shock and panic Kanzeon's arrival back to Shangrala caused" You say, unable to hide your mirth and amusement, grinning in the way that has often been called "terrifying" by even your closest confidants and friends "But as I do not need to apologize as you said, I will not present it as a gift to earn your forgiveness but rather as an Uncle who wants to care and guard his kin. But the second and more serious offer"

You clap your hands together
Cont

>>5060198

"Is to show the first emperor and empress of Long-Jia, two of my dearest friends, the same cosmic beauty that my beloved Kanzeon has shown to me" You state, parting your hands and throwing your arms apart from each other "To give you a tour of the heavens above Shangrala, to take you and your attendants both to the shore of the sea of stars"

"That is poetic for he wants to show you space' Kanzeon teases, though both of them, being native Long-Jians, could more easily understand your elegantly worded proclamation than her simplification and deflowering of it

before Daiyu can part her lips, Jinhai shouts his answer excitedly
-

You stand besides your brother, friend, student, former guard and emperor. His eyes are filled with stars, and seas of cosmic gasses, he is lost in the beauty of the universe, his unique perspective on the world allowed to see beyond it and upon a thousand others. Daiyu stands beside him, clearly soothed by the sheer joy and rapture her husband is experiencing at the mere sight of reality beyond the fog of Shangrala. Though it is clear both are still consumed by their dread of the butcher king's power.

Kanzeon stares sadly at the fields of debris and long wrecked ships.

"Did you know them?" Daiyu asks quietly, solemly

Kanzeon smirks and shakes her head

"they were just machines, vehicles. I knew who piloted them. They were the escorts given to lead me and my sisters to the world's we would remake and repopulate with human lives. They did not survive their arrival, but I knew they would have given their lives and that of their crew to save even one of us" Kanzeon says sorrowfully, thinking of her lost sisters Albina and Philotes "They weren't alive like I am, just metal piloted by human hands. This is no grave, its a salvage yard, as unlike me, none of these wrecks had a soul"

Daiyu nods

"Sorry if I offended you" She mutters, flustered by the mistake she made

"Don't be" Kanzeon laughs "Besides, if we can gather these materials, Shangrala will be richer than most other planets"

"Like a seal of a pearls and gems, set upon black silk interwoven with strings dyed all the colors of the living world" Jinhai gasps in awe "Beauty beyond words, the birthright of humanity. The true heavenly court"

His eyes flare with conviction as he clenches the hand he pressed onto the viewing screen into a fist

"And I see no gods here, only the trail left behind by my ancestors" He proclaims powerfully "The inheritance of mankind, the domain we once held and commanded"

And for a moment

In his place, you do not see the guardsmen who you met at the Gao family's palace. But instead your own father and creator, resplendent in golden armor. Your breath escapes your lungs, and becomes a gasp of admiriation and awe

And then Jovial Jinhai returns

"I will have to move my palace up here, should I live long enough for such a thing to be possible" He laughs, clapping his hands together before adopting the manner of a ruler once more

>>5060199

"So, My grand architect, my elder brother. How do you plan to kill the man who threatens my kith and kin?"

You close your eyes, imagining the wars fought by your sons and their cousins upon distant terra. Of the noble warrior Dae-hyun, who stood before you like a child, seeking and hoping for your approval with tears in his one organic eye, wheezing his breath through crude artificial lungs, and who was overcome by joy when you gave it to him alongside your respect and wisdom.

What is your plan, Lieren?

>Unearth one of Kanzeon's living and uncorrupted sisters, either Mari or Al-uzza and seek their aid in crushing the Kong Nue aligned Vishnu's advantage in terms of aerial and mechanized warfare. Dominante the skies and rain down hell.

>Though you know it will damn you, the populace of all of Long-Jia could not overcome to sheer numbers Nitya Sinha commands. Tell Jinhai of cloning, and shoulder the weight of the sin of creating men to die for the good of mankind. Match numbers with numbers

>Your one advantage is Aeldari derived technology and psykerism. As the former is far more wide spread than the latter, adapt the tactics of the army to fit their new tools rather than their old. And ensure that all regiments are equipped with the most advance weaponry. And recruit psykers into the imperial army. Elegant cunning to overcome brute forces

>The Vishnu expect you to wait for them to perform their ritualized declaration of war. Broadcast the horrors of their tyranny to the entirety of Long-Jia, and through propaganda and manipulation, have the people demand war. Then, before the Vishnu can react, strike first and hard. A sucker punch wins a fight more often than not.

>write in

>>5060201
>Unearth one of Kanzeon's living and uncorrupted sisters, either Mari or Al-uzza and seek their aid in crushing the Kong Nue aligned Vishnu's advantage in terms of aerial and mechanized warfare. Dominante the skies and rain down hell.
Nothing says win like having more DAKKA!

>>5060201
>Unearth one of Kanzeon's living and uncorrupted sisters, either Mari or Al-uzza and seek their aid in crushing the Kong Nue aligned Vishnu's advantage in terms of aerial and mechanized warfare. Dominante the skies and rain down hell.
Raining bullets from above and using machines to fight sounds like a good approach against Khornates.

I would vote for psykers as well, but digging out Kanzeon took a lot of time, I imagine her sister will as well, especially if we have to deal with whatever bullshit they have going on. We will need all the time we can afford.

>>5060201
>Unearth the living sisters.
>Incite Longjia to war, attack before they are prepared

>>5060201
>Unearth one of Kanzeon's living and uncorrupted sisters, either Mari or Al-uzza and seek their aid in crushing the Kong Nue aligned Vishnu's advantage in terms of aerial and mechanized warfare. Dominante the skies and rain down hell.
Fucking sit there and seethe Khorn.
>Your one advantage is Aeldari derived technology and psykerism. As the former is far more wide spread than the latter, adapt the tactics of the army to fit their new tools rather than their old. And ensure that all regiments are equipped with the most advance weaponry. And recruit psykers into the imperial army. Elegant cunning to overcome brute forces

>>5060227
+1

>>5060201
>write in
"Tell me brother.. would you think me a monster if I...."

>Tow the wreakage from above to rain from the heavens upon them, metal smashing down from the skies shattering the enemy ... But such wanton destruction is yet to be seen upon the world. It will save the sons of the empire but I will bare this shame now and always

>>5060201
>The Vishnu expect you to wait for them to perform their ritualized declaration of war. Broadcast the horrors of their tyranny to the entirety of Long-Jia, and through propaganda and manipulation, have the people demand war. Then, before the Vishnu can react, strike first and hard. A sucker punch wins a fight more often than not.

>write in
"Tell me brother.. would you think me a monster if I...."

>Tow the wreakage from above to rain from the heavens upon them, metal smashing down from the skies shattering the enemy ... But such wanton destruction is yet to be seen upon the world. It will save the sons of the empire but I will bare this shame now and always

Maybe we should use asteroids instead of the potentially valuable tech?

>>5060304
Changing to
>Unearth one of Kanzeon's living and uncorrupted sisters, either Mari or Al-uzza and seek their aid in crushing the Kong Nue aligned Vishnu's advantage in terms of aerial and mechanized warfare. Dominante the skies and rain down hell.
>Your one advantage is Aeldari derived technology and psykerism. As the former is far more wide spread than the latter, adapt the tactics of the army to fit their new tools rather than their old. And ensure that all regiments are equipped with the most advance weaponry. And recruit psykers into the imperial army. Elegant cunning to overcome brute forces
If we rod of god them, we should only do it a the capital.
But I'm worried about all that high tech that could malfunction and cause an even larger catastrophe.

>>5060307
I can't believe I changed my vote but forgot the write-in that was the reason for it
>Tow the wreakage from above to rain from the heavens upon them, metal smashing down from the skies shattering the enemy ... But such wanton destruction is yet to be seen upon the world. It will save the sons of the empire but I will bare this shame now and always

>>5060201
>The Vishnu expect you to wait for them to perform their ritualized declaration of war. Broadcast the horrors of their tyranny to the entirety of Long-Jia, and through propaganda and manipulation, have the people demand war. Then, before the Vishnu can react, strike first and hard. A sucker punch wins a fight more often than not.
>Unearth one of Kanzeon's living and uncorrupted sisters, either Mari or Al-uzza and seek their aid in crushing the Kong Nue aligned Vishnu's advantage in terms of aerial and mechanized warfare. Dominate the skies and rain down hell.

>Unearth one of Kanzeon's living and uncorrupted sisters, either Mari or Al-uzza and seek their aid in crushing the Kong Nue aligned Vishnu's advantage in terms of aerial and mechanized warfare. Dominante the skies and rain down hell.
>Your one advantage is Aeldari derived technology and psykerism. As the former is far more wide spread than the latter, adapt the tactics of the army to fit their new tools rather than their old. And ensure that all regiments are equipped with the most advance weaponry. And recruit psykers into the imperial army. Elegant cunning to overcome brute forces

>>5060263
>>5060305
>>5060309
Lets not use incredibly hard to aim and unreliable to hit weapons like space junk

>>5060219
Screw it, adding the below to my vote
>Your one advantage is Aeldari derived technology and psykerism. As the former is far more wide spread than the latter, adapt the tactics of the army to fit their new tools rather than their old. And ensure that all regiments are equipped with the most advance weaponry. And recruit psykers into the imperial army. Elegant cunning to overcome brute forces
We will probably pull it off regardless

>>5060320
I personally prefer rods of god style orbital kynetic bombardment over asteroids and space junk.
Just supported the write-in because I'm to lazy to rewrite it to fit what I wanted.

>>5060327
You mean like the weapons we can fire from Kanzeon or her sisters?

>>5060330
I'm just going to link to wikipedia because I'm not good at explaining things.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_bombardment

>>5060201
>Unearth one of Kanzeon's living and uncorrupted sisters, either Mari or Al-uzza and seek their aid in crushing the Kong Nue aligned Vishnu's advantage in terms of aerial and mechanized warfare. Dominante the skies and rain down hell.
>Your one advantage is Aeldari derived technology and psykerism. As the former is far more wide spread than the latter, adapt the tactics of the army to fit their new tools rather than their old. And ensure that all regiments are equipped with the most advance weaponry. And recruit psykers into the imperial army. Elegant cunning to overcome brute forces

>>5060201
>Unearth one of Kanzeon's living and uncorrupted sisters, either Mari or Al-uzza and seek their aid in crushing the Kong Nue aligned Vishnu's advantage in terms of aerial and mechanized warfare. Dominante the skies and rain down hell.
>Your one advantage is Aeldari derived technology and psykerism. As the former is far more wide spread than the latter, adapt the tactics of the army to fit their new tools rather than their old. And ensure that all regiments are equipped with the most advance weaponry. And recruit psykers into the imperial army. Elegant cunning to overcome brute forces

>>5060201
>>Unearth one of Kanzeon's living and uncorrupted sisters, either Mari or Al-uzza and seek their aid in crushing the Kong Nue aligned Vishnu's advantage in terms of aerial and mechanized warfare. Dominante the skies and rain down hell.
>>Your one advantage is Aeldari derived technology and psykerism. As the former is far more wide spread than the latter, adapt the tactics of the army to fit their new tools rather than their old. And ensure that all regiments are equipped with the most advance weaponry. And recruit psykers into the imperial army. Elegant cunning to overcome brute forces

I like how "mere" men like Jinhai can still surprise beings like Lieren, reminds me of OG ollanius pius. Just proves the true chads aren't chaos

>>5060447
>I like how "mere" men like Jinhai can still surprise beings like Lieren, reminds me of OG ollanius pius. Just proves the true chads aren't chaos
Jinhai gave Lieren vibes of the emperor for that one moment.

I really want them to meet now.

>>5060447
I hope we meet Olanius at some point.
And I mean the actual Ollanius, not that perpetual bullshit version GW did.
I'm talking just a man willing to lay down his life for the Imperium, same as every one of his brothers in arms.

>>5060148
If they're all coming to us, they're not killing their prisoners. Remind me of things I already know all you want, it doesn't make your point any better.
>>5060201
>>Unearth one of Kanzeon's living and uncorrupted sisters, either Mari or Al-Uzza and seek their aid in crushing the Kong Nue aligned Vishnu's advantage in terms of aerial and mechanized warfare. Dominate the skies and rain down hell.
>>Your one advantage is Aeldari derived technology and psykerism. As the former is far more wide spread than the latter, adapt the tactics of the army to fit their new tools rather than their old. And ensure that all regiments are equipped with the most advance weaponry. And recruit psykers into the imperial army. Elegant cunning to overcome brute forces
Use the Sisters as a hammer to crack the shell and the army as a claw to wound the beast within.

>>5060201
>Write-in
>>When hunting a larger beast then oneself, the hunter must first strike vulnerable areas to cripple it before the kill. While your trusted allies prepare Long-Jia for war, you will infiltrate the Vishnu capital and destroy Avalokiteśvara’s cloning facilities and self-repair systems. Kanzeon has even mentioned a new kind of transport for you to utilize in this endeavor. A “drop pod?”
>>Your one advantage is Aeldari derived technology and psykerism. As the former is far more wide spread than the latter, adapt the tactics of the army to fit their new tools rather than their old. And ensure that all regiments are equipped with the most advance weaponry. And recruit psykers into the imperial army. Elegant cunning to overcome brute forces

>>5060201
Your one advantage is Aeldari derived technology and psykerism. As the former is far more wide spread than the latter, adapt the tactics of the army to fit their new tools rather than their old. And ensure that all regiments are equipped with the most advance weaponry. And recruit psykers into the imperial army. Elegant cunning to overcome brute forces

I also hope we used the advanced armor that the Delder rolled up in too. Would be a bigger advantage over what the Vinshu have. Especially combined with DAoT armor.

>>5060199
>"Like a seal of a pearls and gems, set upon black silk interwoven with strings dyed all the colors of the living world" Jinhai gasps in awe "Beauty beyond words, the birthright of humanity. The true heavenly court"
>His eyes flare with conviction as he clenches the hand he pressed onto the viewing screen into a fist
>"And I see no gods here, only the trail left behind by my ancestors" He proclaims powerfully "The inheritance of mankind, the domain we once held and commanded"
>And for a moment
>In his place, you do not see the guardsmen who you met at the Gao family's palace. But instead your own father and creator, resplendent in golden armor. Your breath escapes your lungs, and becomes a gasp of admiriation and awe

I really hope when the emperor shows up for us or meets us that he can see the same thing in Jinhei that we saw there.

>>5060201
>Unearth one of Kanzeon's living and uncorrupted sisters, either Mari or Al-uzza and seek their aid in crushing the Kong Nue aligned Vishnu's advantage in terms of aerial and mechanized warfare. Dominante the skies and rain down hell.
>Your one advantage is Aeldari derived technology and psykerism. As the former is far more wide spread than the latter, adapt the tactics of the army to fit their new tools rather than their old. And ensure that all regiments are equipped with the most advance weaponry. And recruit psykers into the imperial army. Elegant cunning to overcome brute forces

>>5060201
>Unearth one of Kanzeon's living and uncorrupted sisters, either Mari or Al-uzza and seek their aid in crushing the Kong Nue aligned Vishnu's advantage in terms of aerial and mechanized warfare. Dominante the skies and rain down hell.
>Your one advantage is Aeldari derived technology and psykerism. As the former is far more wide spread than the latter, adapt the tactics of the army to fit their new tools rather than their old. And ensure that all regiments are equipped with the most advance weaponry. And recruit psykers into the imperial army. Elegant cunning to overcome brute forces

>Though you know it will damn you, the populace of all of Long-Jia could not overcome to sheer numbers Nitya Sinha commands. Tell Jinhai of cloning, and shoulder the weight of the sin of creating men to die for the good of mankind. Match numbers with numbers

>>5060201
>Unearth one of Kanzeon's living and uncorrupted sisters, either Mari or Al-uzza and seek their aid in crushing the Kong Nue aligned Vishnu's advantage in terms of aerial and mechanized warfare. Dominante the skies and rain down hell.
>Your one advantage is Aeldari derived technology and psykerism. As the former is far more wide spread than the latter, adapt the tactics of the army to fit their new tools rather than their old. And ensure that all regiments are equipped with the most advance weaponry. And recruit psykers into the imperial army. Elegant cunning to overcome brute forces

>>5060201
>Unearth one of Kanzeon's living and uncorrupted sisters, either Mari or Al-uzza and seek their aid in crushing the Kong Nue aligned Vishnu's advantage in terms of aerial and mechanized warfare. Dominante the skies and rain down hell.
>The Vishnu expect you to wait for them to perform their ritualized declaration of war. Broadcast the horrors of their tyranny to the entirety of Long-Jia, and through propaganda and manipulation, have the people demand war. Then, before the Vishnu can react, strike first and hard. A sucker punch wins a fight more often than not.
Hoping these two are not mutually exclusive, two ships do beat one assuming Mari or the other ship arent super fucked and we need to fight a mini war or equivalent to free them, but we gotta move fast, we have way to few psykers and eldar tech is basically just a exotic fighting style. DAOT stuff will match or exceed it.

>>5060320
It's grid square warfare so it's hardly inaccurate. Attach little thrusters to ensure we don't miss and just like that we rain the wrath of haven on them without losing a drop of blood from our side before we actually have to get in there and clean up

>>5060201
>Unearth one of Kanzeon's living and uncorrupted sisters, either Mari or Al-uzza and seek their aid in crushing the Kong Nue aligned Vishnu's advantage in terms of aerial and mechanized warfare. Dominante the skies and rain down hell.


>Your one advantage is Aeldari derived technology and psykerism. As the former is far more wide spread than the latter, adapt the tactics of the army to fit their new tools rather than their old. And ensure that all regiments are equipped with the most advance weaponry. And recruit psykers into the imperial army. Elegant cunning to overcome brute forces

>>5060476
I'll support this write-in too.

>>5059400
Im reading the archived post at the moment!
i real loved the fight with the fox demon, keep up the great work mala!

I wonder if if the sorginak are going to make an appearance.

>>5060790
Maybe Mari has some drone helpers. Or maybe she has a nurgling infestation.

>>5060790
If they do, than it means a bunch of potential recruits for the wanderers.
Which sister should we try to save first? Mari, is intact and just need to be dug out, but with the prophecy and the fact ahe trapped herself and her been broadcatsinf signals, there may be a daemon corruption there.
Uzza is easily acessible, but heavily damage, probably would take a lot of time and resources to repair, maybe even nees to scrap another sister for it, and may not be ready before the war.
I'm personally thinking of going to Mari, but I'm not completly sure.

>>5060820
I’ll be pulling for Mari. Building a terrax drill and purging daemons is a lot quicker and less time and resource intensive than fixing Al-Uzza’s repair systems, funneling supplies to her, and waiting for her to fix herself.

>>5060857
Honestly we should call up Magnus to help out.

>>5060915
If the daemon infestation is so big that it rips a hole in reality, it could work, but otherwise there is not much that he could do other than anatomy tips.
Do we even know in character the experiments that Magnus is doing?

>>5060915
I dislike the repeated suggestions that we call the Emperor or Magnus or the one-eyed one-horned flying purple people eater whenever we’re confronted with absolutely anything that they could feasibly offer insight into. Every one of our brothers save for Angron took care of their shit by themselves, we can too.

>>5060918
That's already out the window with the whole Malal incident.

>>5060201
>>Unearth one of Kanzeon's living and uncorrupted sisters, either Mari or Al-uzza and seek their aid in crushing the Kong Nue aligned Vishnu's advantage in terms of aerial and mechanized warfare. Dominante the skies and rain down hell.
>>Your one advantage is Aeldari derived technology and psykerism. As the former is far more wide spread than the latter, adapt the tactics of the army to fit their new tools rather than their old. And ensure that all regiments are equipped with the most advance weaponry. And recruit psykers into the imperial army. Elegant cunning to overcome brute forces

>>5060920
Just because it happened once doesn’t mean it has to happen again. I’d go so far as to say it makes more sense for it not to after that snafu. Atonement for that mistake through proving that we’re capable of great things without outside influence or anyone to pull out ass out of the fire.

>>5060944
Anon we're fighting straight up daemons and gods. We have every reason to ask for help when dealing with Chaos shit especially since Lieren reached his limit in that ordeal.

>>5060967
>Anon we're fighting straight up daemons and gods
No, gods were just that one time. Daemons we’ve been killing without help for a while. Be’lakor was an outlier, partially because he’s about as close to a god as you can get and partially because of sub-par decision making skills
>We have every reason to ask for help when dealing with Chaos shit
No, we don’t. Making Lieren daddy’s special boy who gets rescued every time he makes a mistake is stupid. Treating the Emperor like a glowing golden safety net is stupid. Thinking we need help against anything other than the first and most powerful daemon prince or the direct attention of a chaos god is stupid.
> Lieren reached his limit in that ordeal.
Do you think that we received a permanent handicap when it comes to fighting daemons because we broke Malal out of jail and flubbed against Be’lakor? Because we didn’t. We just got a price on our head.

>>5060201
>>Unearth one of Kanzeon's living and uncorrupted sisters, either Mari or Al-uzza and seek their aid in crushing the Kong Nue aligned Vishnu's advantage in terms of aerial and mechanized warfare. Dominante the skies and rain down hell.

>>5060972
Anon. People are thinking of approaching suspected a chaos corrupted ship that may have brewed up DAOT plagues or a heavily damaged ship with a reactor leak worse than Chernobyl. I've never advocated for involving the Emperor just Magnus and my goal is to ask if Magnus has any insight in removing chaos corruption without destroy everything.

>>5060227
I will agree with this.

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>>5060201
>Unearth one of Kanzeon's living and uncorrupted sisters, either Mari or Al-uzza and seek their aid in crushing the Kong Nue aligned Vishnu's advantage in terms of aerial and mechanized warfare. Dominante the skies and rain down hell.
>Your one advantage is Aeldari derived technology and psykerism. As the former is far more wide spread than the latter, adapt the tactics of the army to fit their new tools rather than their old. And ensure that all regiments are equipped with the most advance weaponry. And recruit psykers into the imperial army. Elegant cunning to overcome brute forces

Some of our Eldar comrades are bonesingers, lets put them to work making wraithbone items like swords, spears and shields.
Kanzeon can hoover up the earth around Mari and produce her own items too. Like mechas.

Primarch mechas.

Calling the vote now.

Unearth one of Kanzeon's living and uncorrupted sisters, either Mari or Al-uzza and seek their aid in crushing the Kong Nue aligned Vishnu's advantage in terms of aerial and mechanized warfare. Dominate the skies and rain down hell.:21

The Vishnu expect you to wait for them to perform their ritualized declaration of war. Broadcast the horrors of their tyranny to the entirety of Long-Jia, and through propaganda and manipulation, have the people demand war. Then, before the Vishnu can react, strike first and hard. A sucker punch wins a fight more often than not.: 3

Your one advantage is Aeldari derived technology and psykerism. As the former is far more wide spread than the latter, adapt the tactics of the army to fit their new tools rather than their old. And ensure that all regiments are equipped with the most advance weaponry. And recruit psykers into the imperial army. Elegant cunning to overcome brute forces:18

Tow the wreakage from above to rain from the heavens upon them, metal smashing down from the skies shattering the enemy:3
-Tell me brother... would you think me a monster if...:3

When hunting a larger beast then oneself, the hunter must first strike vulnerable areas to cripple it before the kill. While your trusted allies prepare Long-Jia for war, you will infiltrate the Vishnu capital and destroy Avalokiteśvara’s cloning facilities and self-repair systems. Kanzeon has even mentioned a new kind of transport for you to utilize in this endeavor. A “drop pod?”:2

Though you know it will damn you, the populace of all of Long-Jia could not overcome to sheer numbers Nitya Sinha commands. Tell Jinhai of cloning, and shoulder the weight of the sin of creating men to die for the good of mankind. Match numbers with numbers:1

Total votes:25

So your plan is to Unearth one of Kanzeon's living and near sisters and to adapt the tactics of the imperial army to fit their new tools/weapons, derived from the technology of old humanity or Aeldari, and introducing psykers into its ranks, but only those with the strongest of wills and self mastery.

Writing now

Opening your eyes, the specter of your distant, heroic son fades away as you stare into the scenic view of the universe Jinhai had been so enamored and awed by. And further yet, into the terrible eye that still haunts your brother Perturabo and countless others. The folly of the Eldar, as Kanzeon names it. You take a deep, ponderous breath, tracking its path from your throat and down into your lungs as you raise up your chest and bow your head. The same people that caused such devastation in their past shall in part provide the means of salvation your people desperately need. A dark storm is gathering upon the horizon, one that will make the bleakest of winter night's seem like the carefree days of spring and summer. A war, raged not for ideals, philosophy, freedom, religion, greed, or even ambition. A war with no purpose greater than mass slaughter and sowing death. A war waged by the thralls of the High Minister of Murder, in his name and honor. A completely senseless and pointless conflict, waged and born by the blackened, withered hearts of two beings broken by the abuse and oppression they suffered, no matter if it was truly carried out or merely a product of imaginations fueled by lunacy and pride. A war against those who should have been your family and in another life could've been your friend.

But there is no use morning what could've been. Nitya Sinha and Avalokiteśvara, Groom and Bride, are both monstrous tyrants, whose crimes are so numerous and terrible, the only punishment that is fitting for both is execution. Their actions are unforgiveable, more so than even the Yan Degenerates. Even good men can commit deeds so foul that the only recourse is their death, like Tao Song. The Butcher King and the self named Iron goddess of war, shall be no different than the legions of criminals who now follow your every step as ghosts and memories.

Allowing the breath to escape past your lips, you turn to Jinhai.

"The plan Kanzeon and I have conceived, is two fold and preparatory in nature" You explain solemnly and professionally, with little emotion or flair in your tone and enunciation "It shall begin with a reform of the army tactics, which I trust the Five Kings of War to be able to adapt to and carry out flawlessly, and expect the less storied and famed generals to follow their examples quickly and efficiently. Kanzeon will increase her production of the ancient and alien weaponry that have already begun to see use, so that the whole of the army can utilize the treasures left behind by both our ancestors and the slave takers. The stratagems and tactics of all of Long-Jia's armies shall be remade around these new killing tools and vehicles, as traditional warfare is abandoned in favor for a new and more efficient form of conduct and battle"

"Will she be able to produce enough? Particularly of the Elder weapons?" Jinhai questions, with an austere manner and tone, eyes focused into yours without irritation or fear
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>>5061109

"As I understand it, that is the one advantage we hold over the Vishnu. The wonderous machines, Paralyzing whips and Darklight weaponry she has given to us"

"It'd be difficult for me to do so alone, and that is not the only advantage we have over the bastard offspring of my bitch sister" Kanzeon says with a cool grace despite the vitriol that is seeping past her lips "And both the challenges I'd face in manufacturing a supply that could arm the ever growing army you command, and the other, mysterious advantage we realized have been taken into consideration"

"The Vishnu fear sorcery, and abhor it, as all nations besides the Shuni do" Daiyu says quietly "But, Lieren keeps the company of sages, priests, and occultists, and has made a sanctuary for them and marks almost all he carries or creates in charms, including the gifts he gave to my children. Is that the second advantage?"

Jinhai nods, knowing the truth of spirits and chaos, for the good of the kingdom, its people and both of their future

"Against the Shuni Zealots, I utilized illusions and tricks to overcome their mastery of heretical sorcerous arts" You say, lifting your chin "And the power I wield and teach to my mystical companions is not magic, it is psykerism, power of the soul and will. The Shuni borrowed and bargained for their power with the most wicked of rites. Though, without proper training pyskerism is as dangerous as any sorcery, but if practiced by minds possessing both naturally strong wills further bolstered via training such as meditation it can be wielded as safely as any spear or shield"

"So you propose to introduce these psykerists into the imperial army?" Daiyu asks

You nod

"How many regiments could we muster?" Jinhai asks a second later

"Few, and they would be smaller than proper battalions, similar to the auxiliary and support brigades, such as the White Lotus Medics, Shan's engineers, or Shirong's steel birds, or Tao Dandan's beloved heavy artillery battalions" You answer "but these few would possess a power so potent, it would rival Dandan's firestorm orchestra. Why, one of my youngest students, before her training, massacred a bandit clan with a few gestures of her wrists and manifestation of her will. And another, when his powers awoke, wipe his village from the map by sheer accident"

"Courts above" Jinhai gasp, biting on the back of his hand to hide his shock, before an amused smirk passes across his lips behind his fingers "Funny, how our enemies named us sorcerers and witches, but now we plan to actually use powers similar to those they insultingly claimed we resorted to as we fought for our freedom"

"I don't find it amusing, its terrifying as I know Lieren would not exaggerate. To think there are people who possess such terrible might" Daiyu says, repressing a shiver as she imagines the scenes you described briefly and without the gruesome details you well know, for her sake and Jinhai's.
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>>5061111

"Worry not, all of my students are adherents of the Journey, and young Meixiu will not be drafted. I refuse to expose children to the horrors of true warfare. Even if the girl born as a natural disaster has proven herself stronger than Shuni mystics" You assure Daiyu and her husband "Now, my plan to supply the imperial armies demands for Aeldari armor, weaponry and inspired vehicles, alongside ensuring a reserve of the ancient vehicles and weapons Kanzeon has also produced to replace lost and damaged instances of both is rather simple in concept but supremely difficult in execution"

"Unearthing my sister Mari or my sister Al-uzza, the mothers of the Bask and Shuni people, both, whom unlike Nitya's bitch are still themselves and in their right minds" Kanzeon says coldly "The difficult my darling scholar mentions, Jinhaaai, is that Mari is buried beneath the ice caps of the Bask free republic and Al-Uzza is under the capital of old Shuni Kingdom, and is...gravely injured and leaking dangerous energies. Specifically Empyrean Radiation"

"And we have reason to believe Mari has sealed herself to lock away a grave threat to the bask people and the world at large" You add, Kanzeon nodding her head.

"I see" Jinhai states, before turning to Daiyu "What do you think, My empress?"

"Even if I disagreed with Lieren's plans, he wouldn't listen to our combined authority and would devout all of his energy and personal resources into achieving his goals. It is simply how he acts when he believes something is necessary for spread and cultivation of prosperity, which is above all else, the responsibility he bears upon his back" Daiyu states dully, smirking mischievously as glances to you "So, my advice is to let him do it, so we can officially support him and supply him with whatever resources he requires"

Jinhai chuckles

"How did you manage to speak my thoughts so clearly, my love" He says with a playful sneer "Well, your empress haas given her mandate, Lieren, All you must do is act. And Kanzeon?"

Jinhai grins widely as he turns to your partner and places a hand upon his breast

"Can we linger in the heavens for awhile longer? The view up here among the stars is simply enchanting" He says.

Kanzeon just smiles and shrugs her shoulders, but follows his humble request happily
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>>5061112

What will you focus your efforts on, Lieren?

>Traveling to the Bask lands, meet with their new government to seek permission to unearth Mari and explain the dangers you risk doing so, and the dangers of you being denied your request as well

>Venture into Al-uzza, and face whatever dangers and monsters have been spawned by her bleeding heart in her eons of confinement and solitude.

>Train the wanderers in the fog as warriors and soldiers, but only the adult and strong willed, and trained of their number. And command the sects memberships and its Aeldari guests to seek out new recruits and disciples to expand its number.

>Aid Yin Lei, Yan Zihao, Dai Niu, Lai Song and Jinhai in the army reforms and personally train the most skilled of the soldiers as you have with your companions in the past

>Write in

>>5061114
>Venture into Al-uzza, and face whatever dangers and monsters have been spawned by her bleeding heart in her eons of confinement and solitude.
Digging in a vassal state should be faster and more discreet. And we have no clue what Mari has going on, it might be a huge time sink to deal with

>>5061114
>Al-Uzza

>>5061114
>Venture into Al-uzza, and face whatever dangers and monsters have been spawned by her bleeding heart in her eons of confinement and solitude
>Write in
Ask our wife a simple question, since her sister is making these things would she know how they are made and this their weaknesses. Also tell our Brother and Emperor how he is specifically going to be targeted so he has time to plan


Nothing else or we are spread to thin

>>5061114
>Traveling to the Bask lands, meet with their new government to seek permission to unearth Mari and explain the dangers you risk doing so, and the dangers of you being denied your request as well
Even Al-Uzza's core is damaged, it might take too long and require us to salvage other sister's to repair her.

>>5061114
>>Traveling to the Bask lands, meet with their new government to seek permission to unearth Mari and explain the dangers you risk doing so, and the dangers of you being denied your request as well
>>5061119
Al-uzza is a huge time sink by the very fact her core is leaking. We can't release her until after that gets fixed. At least Chaos fuckery takes less time to remove.

>Traveling to the Bask lands, meet with their new government to seek permission to unearth Mari and explain the dangers you risk doing so, and the dangers of you being denied your request as well

I wanna go sight seeing and officer recruiting.

Reposting what Kanzeon scanners found last thread to help people choose

The first, is marking the location of Kanzeon's sisters who remain lost. It takes moments for Kanzeon's repaired sensors to locate her kin across the vastness of Shangrala, presenting a map larger than any painted by mortal hands. And so, the integrity and health of her sisters are at last revealed to you. Kuan Im and Avalokiteśvara have no surprises to make. Kuan Im's signs reveal her "death", but judging from the readings taken it could easily be repaired or salvaged if one could circumvent the "Empyrean Radiation" that soaks her body, abandoned like the skin of a shedding snake. Avalokiteśvara has had her engines crippled, alongside approximately 60% of her automated defenses, alongside other, insignificant damages.
>Al-Uzza, is in dire straights. She has suffered many wounds and failures of her internal systems from her landing, more than those Kanzeon herself suffered. Particularly, her "Core" has suffered heavy damages, explaining the thinning of reality around Kamal Kanan's seat of power and the vast quantities of magical beast that still haunt the countryside of the Shuni provinces. She is bleeding, and any facilities she could use to repair herself need repairing.

>Mari, is surprisingly, nearly completely unharmed. However, she is also beneath several miles of ice and stone and has been broadcasting a warning signal for approximately a decade less than when Kuan Im betrayed her purpose and forsake her name to become the wretch Huli Jing. That bodes ill. Especially with the knowledge that it is Mari who has trapped herself beneath the ice and turned the Bask region's environment frigid.

And now the prophecies
>The panther shall face the giant upon a red field beneath a red sun, clearly a reference to yourself or another of the brothers of the panthers number battling against. Nitya Sinha, Kanzeon or yourself
>The Sun shall be swallowed by a serpent, which must be referring Kamal Kanon, his hellish arts, and his wild ambitions
>From ice, a harbinger of sickness emerges. A plague to come? perhaps a cadaver buried in the ice and snow of the south. Easily averted and possibly already solved when one takes the improvements of Long-Jia's Medicine and cleanliness.
>The fox gnaws its own leg to spite the hunter. Huli Jing, another may fear Yan Zihao and his family, however you have seen into their hearts and found nothing to fear within them.

The third one is the most relevant right now, Mari may get corrupted soon, or a grater daemon consumes it cores and manifest fully.

>>5061114
>>Traveling to the Bask lands, meet with their new government to seek permission to unearth Mari and explain the dangers you risk doing so, and the dangers of you being denied your request as well
We don't have the time to fix a DAoT ship's reactor.

>>5061164
Point.

I'll change from >>5061124 to support
>Mari

>>5061114
>Venture into Al-uzza, and face whatever dangers and monsters have been spawned by her bleeding heart in her eons of confinement and solitude.

>>5061114
>>Traveling to the Bask lands, meet with their new government to seek permission to unearth Mari and explain the dangers you risk doing so, and the dangers of you being denied your request as well
Guozhi and the Eldar can handle psyker recruitment and the Kings of War can handle the army reforms. Jinhai is even better than us at the Carp style, the elite soldiers will be very well trained regardless if we're there or not. Staunching the flow of Al-Uzza's reactor would be nice though... Maybe Kanzeon can bring her a DAoT bandaid?

>>5061114
>>Traveling to the Bask lands, meet with their new government to seek permission to unearth Mari and explain the dangers you risk doing so, and the dangers of you being denied your request as well

>>5061114
>Venture into Al-uzza, and face whatever dangers and monsters have been spawned by her bleeding heart in her eons of confinement and solitude.
She needs to be saved sooner then later or bad shit will accrue

>>5061197
Versus the one we know is going to be corrupted? Al-uzza has been leaking for thousands of years, why would change after one more?

>>5061114
If we take Mari, we have to deal with nurgleites and an super virus.
If we deal with Al-uzza, we have to fight hellspawn abominations through heavy warp radiation, then fix her.
>Traveling to the Bask lands, meet with their new government to seek permission to unearth Mari and explain the dangers you risk doing so, and the dangers of you being denied your request as well
If we think we are going to lose mari first then we need to save her.

>>5061206
Dont give QM Ideas

>>5061210
I say we deal with the sickness. It's been a minute since we've shat on Nurgle's carpet anyways.

>>5061215
Don't shit in Nirgle's front door, he would like it.
Instead you got to throw some industrial cleaners at it.

>>5061215
Bro. He literally has a fetish for that. Instead introduce him to Mr. Clean

>>5061114
>>5061153
>Traveling to the Bask lands, meet with their new government to seek permission to unearth Mari and explain the dangers you risk doing so, and the dangers of you being denied your request as well

I want this sickness evaluated for whether Lieren can wield it against Nitya and his mega clone army.

>>5061114
>Traveling to the Bask lands, meet with their new government to seek permission to unearth Mari and explain the dangers you risk doing so, and the dangers of you being denied your request as well

>>5061114
>>Traveling to the Bask lands, meet with their new government to seek permission to unearth Mari and explain the dangers you risk doing so, and the dangers of you being denied your request as well

>>5061114
>Traveling to the Bask lands, meet with their new government to seek permission to unearth Mari and explain the dangers you risk doing so, and the dangers of you being denied your request as well

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>>5061224
>>5061227
You get what I mean. It's high time we started taking the fight to Nurgle again.
Better we do it sooner rather than later anyhow, I'm willing to bet he's been cooking up something nasty for Lieren ever since he cleansed the Keeper of Rust.

>>5061242
I have to wonder how Lieren would feel about using chemical and biological agents against hostile combatants.
While it's probably the height of dishonor as far as the average Long-Jia general is concerned, if it doesn't have any lasting ecological impact, it might be something he'd consider.

>>5061328
Considering how the burglite nation fell because of an indirect revolution, compared on how entrenched the other god's corruption have been on the other nations, its very probable that Nurgle's chosen is preparing something downright nasty to make up for it.

>>5061332
He was very repulsed by the Drukhari weaponry, and both the road-dragon and the keepr of rust, so most likely he would be opposes to it except in the most dire emergencies, and only as a last resort.
And biological and chemical agents that would be used for large scate attacks would have to have the hability to mutate, and therefore get out of hand, so it's not like they are very safe either.

>>5061338
I guess that's a firm "no" on Promethium then.
That's a damn shame. Lieren and Vulkan would probably get along famously otherwise.

>>5061344
Yeah, I can't see Lieren condoning burn people alive when you have plenty of equally valid options.
Burning daemons on the other hand is fair game.

>>5061351
Every Primarch has their own favorite war crimes. Time will only tell what Lieren brings to the table of non-ethical warfare.

>>5061367
I can see our boy taking a liking to needle or grav weaponry since they can easily be used non-lethally. So crushing or poisoning, take your pick. Or maybe both? The former for soft targets and the latter for hard ones?

>>5061369
Probably crushing, given how he has been using telekinesis.

>>5061373
I can see him liking the choice between immobilizing and flattening enemies. It'd be a shame to let all the DEldar alchemical know-how we learned go to waste. Maybe an over/under needler with a painless (but hyperpotent) neurotoxin in one barrel and an extremely quick-acting sedative in the other...

>>5061375
Well, he is space-chinese, so weaponizing acupuncture and alchemy is par for the course.

>>5061373
>>5061369
>Lieren is tasked with taking back a world infested with Chaos cultists
>The final day of the campaign has come
>The II Legion's victory has been assured
>The last of the cultists have been driven to the highest peaks of the planet"s mountains
>Primarch Lieren deigns to test a modified gravity generator as a means of incapacitating the cult remnants non-lethally
>the test run goes flawlessly, every cultist is immobilized, struggling against unseen yet ungodly powerful hands
>On another data feed, Lieren is receiving more and more reports about the interiors of the temples these cultists erected
>Suddenly, the gravity fields pinning the cultists in place double
>then again
>and again
>So on and so forth, until the collective biomass of the cultists rests only a handful of meters above sea level
Imperial Scholars would later label this a tragic mishap for which the attending Mechanicus personnel were harshly reprimanded.
This, however, did not stop the Primarch of the II Legion from exploring the applications of this new fork of gravitational technology, though it's eventual usage in the theatre of battle was limited.

>>5061381
I was thinking more of hanging turants or making people paraplegic midcombat for that warcrime feel, but non-lethal works.

>>5061384
I figure whatever method it is, it would be developed as a non-lethal, or at least painless, weapon.
It would feel appropriate, the road to hell being paved with good intentions after all.

>>5061114
>>Traveling to the Bask lands, meet with their new government to seek permission to unearth Mari and explain the dangers you risk doing so, and the dangers of you being denied your request as well

A difficult choice. But we are going to Al Uzza soon as well, probably after the war.
Maybe....

>Write in
Have a Steel Bird drop steel rods with attached seals and pages of the journey in the Shuni capital ruins, where Kazeon has located Al Uzza entrance.
It should be secure enough, and one Steel Bird is fairly rapid. As well just one.
We can t be in two places at once, but perhaps this will slow the energies of hell ?
And inform Jinhai that Nintya wants to personally kill him, better keep him on guard when the war starts. Beside since we are on Kanzeon ship, this is a good time for him to grab some new equip from the armory.

>>5061367
Mass hanging of tyrants. Jk aside lieren might find a way to hang demons as well.

>>5061378
>"Hold still chaos scum, you'll feel a slight pinch..."
Only worry is that we might need a special poison for daemons. Maybe we could ask Dong for bone marrow samples and grow them with the wife's help so we have a steady supply of pariah blood to turn into daemon neurotoxin? Not really a warcrime, but still of dubious morality.
>>5061381
>Brother, you are a new inductee, so let me regale you with my favorite story of our lord and father. The time he created a small singularity with the bodies of a noncompliant population.

>>5061393
>Magnus and Lieren researching daemon anotony to find out how to hang the chaos gods

>>5061381
>>5061395
I'm telling you we need to run psy-ops and propaganda to cultivate the belief that members of the Journey can exorcise demons with passages from the Journey and that Lieren himself can kill evil with a glance.

>>5061399
We probably could exorcise a daemon with the Journey. We just haven't had the chance to try yet. This war will probably give us ample test subjects though. I don't know if Nitya and Avalokiteśvara are possessed, but we did mention trying to purify the latter. I do kinda hope we become the Ordo Hereticus primarch though. At the rate Magnus is going he might give us a run for our money.

>>5061402
We definitely need to make an attempt, but what I'm proposing is that we take advantage of the influence belief has on the Warp and make everyone believe it's possible in the first place. Simple rumors are enough, but perhaps staging a few exorcisms would cement it in people's minds. It also helps that we have a ton of psykers who could actually exorcise demons by themselves.
I desperately want to BTFO Khorne for all eternity.

>>5061397
>Brother, have you made any progress on our latest venture?
>Unfortunately, my efforts are akin to seeds sown in tainted soil.
>Pray tell, where has your research been halted?
>It seems near impossible to locate the father of filth's trachea and vertabrae. A solitary tree hidden in a forest of kin it seems.
>Surely you exaggerate brother!
>If only I could be afforded the pleasure of a less unsightly task. Every fold of diseased flesh and rotten fat on his body shifts and fades like the tides. Come, gaze upon this macabre spectacle.
>I'm positive with my expertise, I will-...
>Do you see the truth of it, most curious brother of mine?
>How in the blazes? HOW CAN ONE HAVE SEVEN CHINS, BUT NO NECK!?

>>5061410
Kek

>>5061397
>"I am surprised you were able to find his neck"
>"When one has hung as many men as I have, it becomes as second nature"

If anyone can hang the Chaos Gods, its "Hangman" Lieren.

>>5061416
It's always nice to see how many titles a protagonist can gather over a quest.
So far we have
>The Golden Eyed Giant
>The Ogre
>The Man Who Makes Jade From Nothing
>Most Benevolent
>Primarch of the Second Legion
>Marked By Chaos Undivided
>Slayer of Tyrants
>The Hangman
Any others I'm missing?

>>5061420
>The Based and Prosperity-Pilled

>>5061420
The White Dragon or Road Builder.

>>5061420
Also forgot
>The Panther
>The Hunter
And I'm debating "Knight in shining armor" given how often Lieren keeps coming across entrapped maidens of unmatched purity.

>>5061433
Lieren the Barbarian.

>>5061420
Kinda want to become best bros with Leman, to the point where we build him a house in Nothing and we get inducted into his tribe. Lieren Russ and Leman of Nothing.

>>5061440
I depends on how well those big ass wolves get along with the Tiger Children.

>>5061440
I can't see us and Leman getting along.

>>5061446
Yeah, it's probably gonna be a clash of ideologies on top of personalities.
I can only hope they can out aside their differences when all hell breaks loose.

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>>5061430
Both are very good titles/epithets

>>5061446
>>5061452
Russ' dumb barbarian persona is largely a façade. He's actually pretty cunning and thoughtful underneath it, which is something that we'll catch pretty quickly with our eyes.

>>5061114
>Traveling to the Bask lands, meet with their new government to seek permission to unearth Mari and explain the dangers you risk doing so, and the dangers of you being denied your request as well
Nurgle has been hiding his power level this entire time, his champion was never on the surface of Shangrala but inside Mari cooking up a hell plague with DAOT stuff while she keeps him in check as much as possible.
We need to all in on this because its essentially a boss fight we are taking on early which will immediately be followed by a hell war with Nitya.

>>5061466
Given how pitiful Nurgle's champions tend to be in combat, I can imagine the real challenge is gonna be trying not vomit from the stench of whatever's going on in there.

>>5061114
>Venture into Al-uzza, and face whatever dangers and monsters have been spawned by her bleeding heart in her eons of confinement and solitude.

>>5061114
>>Traveling to the Bask lands, meet with their new government to seek permission to unearth Mari and explain the dangers you risk doing so, and the dangers of you being denied your request as well
>>5061458
It's not about russ being a barbarian, it's about a complete clash of styles. Near everything russ didn't like in magnus is amplified in lieren, and the fact that lieren speaks in nothing but riddles would grate hin as much as it did perty. I just can't see the two getting along, even if lieren can see how much pain russ' brings him

>>5061644
It's ok, once Leman's waifu vouches for Lieren, they will crack open a few barrels of Dragon's Spit and become best of friends.

>>5061654
There are still some pretty big hurdle to jump, like I can't see lieren not being staunchly pro-psyker, though if anyone would be sympathetic towards his nonsense wolf religion it would probably be lieren

>>5061644
>Near everything russ didn't like in magnus is amplified in lieren
What Russ didn't like about Magnus was, in addition to the fact the Thousand Sons full sent use of the warp and psykers (tuletaries, percieved lack of oversight or restraint, etc.), that Magnus treated Leman like an ignorant, unwashed retard who had no idea what he was talking about. Magnus was arrogant, self-assured, and thought he knew best because of his powers. He had a bad habit of leaving allies to do the dirty work while he and his legion investigated some artifact or repository of knowledge. Russ HATED this and saw Magnus and the XVth as unreliable, inconstant allies, a potential threat to the Imperium, and generally insufferable. Whether Leman was right in these beliefs, was being hypocritical, or any other gripe is another conversation, but my point is Lieren won't exhibit the flaws of character and judgement to the degree canon!Magnus did.

Well. Leiren could just act more direct and less flowery.

Or we could challenge him to a fight. We're a melee focused fighter, so even if we don't win we'll still earn his respect.

Also we've fought Belakor so we've at least got experience fighting peer/greater skill opponents.

We can give him wolf themed gear.

Lastly we could just go out for a drink with him. It should be at least somewhat effective.

>>5061114
>>Venture into Al-uzza, and face whatever dangers and monsters have been spawned by her bleeding heart in her eons of confinement and solitude.
can we carpet bomb the area with null denouncement charms beforehand?

>>5061699
Don't see the point since it'll do nothing to solve the biggest problem with Lieren trying to approach Al-uzza. In case nobody else realizes it Lieren has a brand that weakens the barrier separating the Immaterium from reality and Al-uzza location is likely the weakest point in the barrier on the planet.

>>5061713
Could we not just cover the brand with a metric fuck ton of null denouncement charms to try and mitigate its effect?
I remember suggesting making a headband for this very purpose a while back.

>>5061114
>>Traveling to the Bask lands, meet with their new government to seek permission to unearth Mari and explain the dangers you risk doing so, and the dangers of you being denied your request as well

>>5061718
It would probably take too many of them to have enough of an effect.
I don't know how well Lieren could fight while being Charm Ball Man, Shangrl's number 1 superhero.

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>>5061726
I have an idea

>>5061734
>Daemons HATE him! Find out how he purges Neverborn with this one weird trick!

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>>5061734
I guess we are taking a note from Suleiman.
The shuni should know how to make a comically large hat.

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woman of stone pussy got me actin unvirtuously

>>5061114
>>Traveling to the Bask lands, meet with their new government to seek permission to unearth Mari and explain the dangers you risk doing so, and the dangers of you being denied your request as well

>>5061114
>Venture into Al-uzza, and face whatever dangers and monsters have been spawned by her bleeding heart in her eons of confinement and solitude.

Calling the vote now.

Venture into Al-uzza, and face whatever dangers and monsters have been spawned by her bleeding heart in her eons of confinement and solitude.: 7

Ask our wife a simple question, since her sister is making these things would she know how they are made and this their weaknesses. Also tell our Brother and Emperor how he is specifically going to be targeted so he has time to plan: 1

Traveling to the Bask lands, meet with their new government to seek permission to unearth Mari and explain the dangers you risk doing so, and the dangers of you being denied your request as well:18

Have a Steel Bird drop steel rods with attached seals and pages of the journey in the Shuni capital ruins, where Kazeon has located Al Uzza entrance.: 1

Total votes: 25

So Lieren will Travel to the Bask lands to meet with their new government and seek permission to unearth Mari and explain the dangers posed by releasing her and the dangers risk by denying the request

Writing now

>>5061410
hahahaha!

>>5061453
INFINITY!

The mountainous lands of the bask are bitterly cold. A land of tundras and vast expanses of snow and frost blanketed fields, no matter the season the weather mimics the harshest winters of Long-Jia. Yet, life flourishes here as well, beneath forests of old pines and across fields webbed and broke apart by almost perpetually frozen streams. The demeanor of the locals, in sharp contrast to their environment, is nearly overly warm and welcoming. Word had been sent ahead, informing the whole of the ascendant republic that has risen from ashes of the corrupted monarchy that proceeded them of your arrival and intentions to meet with the ruling council of elected local and regional leaders.

And how the people rejoiced. The border had a veritable legion of pilgrims, dressed in an odd mixture of Long-Jian fashion and traditional Bask attire, the additions of Long-Jianese jewelry and clothing clearly being an attempt at making you feel welcome as if their gregarious approach complete with a merry if strange seeming dance had no made you keenly aware of the joy the people felt to have their nation be host to the writer of the book they now held as holy gospel. The hats there wear, however are most peculiar.

Boneta, they call them. Soft, flat, shapeless and with a singular string rising from its crown, the bask wear them in many vibrant colors that stand starkly against the dull and often monochrome surroundings of their homelands. While language is not an issue, as you have long since learned and become fluent in the Bask tongue, it is both greatly intriguing and amusing to hear the translations of the various teachings, lessons and idioms of the journey spoken to you breathlessly and excitedly. It speaks of Gao Qiqiang's great intellect and deeply personal understanding of the Journey's message and core tenants that he was able to preserve not only their obvious meaning and purpose, but also the subtle symbolism and layers of wisdom revealed by reflection and repeated study of a singular passage!

Truly, he, like Daiyu, is an example that a lotus can blossom from even the muddiest, most befouled of fields. This vibrant, ecstatic welcome is repeated through every city you pass by, which you find to also be, despite their resent war, resplendent and not only well maintained but also well decorated. Each building lending a splash of color and vibrancy to the otherwise bleak landscape of the Bask lands. But, judging from the changes in architectural design and the freshness of the paint adorning even the oldest of the buildings, this colorful expression of hope in a bleak world has only become popular since the fall of the stagnant rule of the local tyrants.

But, you do admire the efficiency of taking their castles and forts, and turning them into homeless shelters, hospitals or monasteries. You visit a few with Kanzeon, on your Journey to the heart of the Bask nation.
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>>5061986

Which of course is its new capital being built in the village where Gao Qiqiang first met his disciple Elazar Burueliza, who went on to lead his people to cast aside their chains and topple their cruel masters from their seats of power. Kanzeon looks beneath the new frescos for signs of Mari's status and health, while you admire the new wall and ceiling spanning paintings which tell a visual story of the rebellion. Usually in Gao Qiqiang's arrival and the various leaders of the revolution meeting him or Elazar and converting to the Journey and escaping some terrible fate through following its teachings. Though, just as common is ordinary workers and field laborers adhering to the principles of the Journey in their day to day lives.

However, one particular artwork more baffles you than anything else. Its title is roughly translated into "Battle for freedom's birth", and it is a depiction of the war against the Yan tyrants. A depiction whose artist has taken many liberties and did not allow the truth to impede his stylistic choices.

You, stand in the traditionally full plate of the Bask, painted white and whose helmet is decorated with a blooming Lotus flower, with a azure and plum triangle swallow tailed banner in one hand, and a lance whose guard is shaped like a panther's open maw in the other. Impressively, they captured the image of your still nameless steed near perfectly, complete with the violent stallion biting into the arm of an unfortunate, rather racist depiction of a Yan soldier. The soldiers that charge around this strange Knightly vision of yourself, are dressed not as any Yan or Long-Jian footsoldier you have ever seen. But rather as knights and cavaliers, with wide brimmed hats adorned with feathers and the odd style of swords favored by the bask people. There is not a spear in sight, and the firearms the painter has drawn are incredibly ornate to the point of over extravagance. Carved in the shape of odd reptilian creatures with wings with snouts that vaguely resembles a dragon's, spewing flame. At times it seems like they are meant to be living creatures rather than weapons.

How odd.

You study this painting for some time, trying to pick out recognizable faces amidst its chaotic and heavily populated scenes of brutal violence. You quickly find the trick is to look at the tops of their full face helmets, particularly if a decoration adorns it. You found that only important figures have such ornate armor in this art, and easily deduce what symbol belongs to which of your fellow liberators.

Lai song being the most easily spotted amongst the rabble and chaos of the piece. As his helmet is ostentatiously shaped into the form of a snarling horse's head. Which you are certain the man himself would wear if it would not make him the laughing stock of the whole imperial army.
Cont

>>5061987

Kanzeon finds the painting more a source of hilarity than intrigue, and has to keep from looking at it to avoid offending the painter by laughing at it until she ran out of breath

Thankfully, the trek to the yet unbuilt capital of the Bask republics is a short journey, as it is not far from the border, so the distractions posed by the local culture, customs and artwork are insubstantial, though you do find the local music and cuisine quite enjoyable even though you balk at the feasts every town tries to throw in your honor as you near its borders.

In fact, you leave several villages with new holidays and festivals just to celebrate you brief and ultimately uneventful stay within their walls, besides the dances you have with Kanzeon, who is rather taken by the ritualistic and traditional dances of the bask people. One even begins to build a statue of you, to place besides the one they have already built of their founders and Gao Qiqiang.

The new capital is a simple farming community, which, besides its new constructions, only defining feature is the white stone church constructed around a tree that the old religion followed by the nobility considered holy. And, much like the majority of Bask's nobles, it has been burned. Now the once pearl white church is blackened with soot and ash. And, according to what one of the men who lit it aflame, the bones of several of the local barons and knights still lay inside of its, buried under ash, timber, and stone.

It is a somber sight to behold. A messenger, who speaks near perfect Long-Jian, informs you and Kanzeon that Elazar and his peers expect to meet you in an audience over dinner, after a discussion of the continued and increased import of Long-Jian technology and other commodities. The man, who has a well groomed and oddly thick mustache that is more comparable to those worn by the men of New Varro than those of Long-Jia, Shuni or Vishnu.

The man recommends you enjoy the sights and plainly hopes you will read to the people a few passages from your personal copy of the Journey judging from his comments and glances. Which would be pleasing exercise certain to further the growing bond between your two cultures

However, you cannot allow yourself such a comforting reprieve when you know you must soon all be threaten the rulers of this fine nation into allowing you to unearth and free Mari from the ice of its southernmost regions. Mari has been broadcasting a warning for countless generations and went so far in her efforts to contain whatever threat she had met that she froze the entirety of the bask region.

Oh, you could lie, claim that in freeing Mari the bask region will become warm, verdant and fertile like Long -Jia, but you refuse to deceive such upstanding and noble people when you know that the duty that has brought you here will almost certainly endanger them and could cause a calamity unmatched in recent memory.
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>>5061989

But it must be done, so a graver disaster does not befall Shangrala at Nitya Sinha's victory!

What angle will you use to Convince the Bask government to shoulder the risk inherent in freeing Mari, Lieren?

>Explain Nitya Sinha's ambitions and capabilities, and explain the nature of Mari and her sisters so they can understand the necessity of your actions and hopefully agree with them

>Tell them that Mari would be indebted to them, and would be very much willing to help advance their development to equal Long-Jia's own.

>Though fate is the salve of fools, Prophecy has its uses. Ask for Carys' aid, and with her foresight and the traditional method of divination you've practiced before, cow the leaders with a theatric fortune telling session

>Remind them that, even if they do not give you their blessing, they cannot stop you. But you wish to be a friend of the bask, and swear to give your life to prevent any catastrophe your endeavor may cause

>Write in

>>5061990
>>Explain Nitya Sinha's ambitions and capabilities, and explain the nature of Mari and her sisters so they can understand the necessity of your actions and hopefully agree with them
>Remind them that, even if they do not give you their blessing, they cannot stop you. But you wish to be a friend of the bask, and swear to give your life to prevent any catastrophe your endeavor may cause
lets not lie to these people, they like us

>>5061990
>Explain Nitya Sinha's ambitions and capabilities, and explain the nature of Mari and her sisters so they can understand the necessity of your actions and hopefully agree with them
>Remind them that, even if they do not give you their blessing, they cannot stop you. But you wish to be a friend of the bask, and swear to give your life to prevent any catastrophe your endeavor may cause

>>5061990
>Explain Nitya Sinha's ambitions and capabilities, and explain the nature of Mari and her sisters so they can understand the necessity of your actions and hopefully agree with them
>Remind them that, even if they do not give you their blessing, they cannot stop you. But you wish to be a friend of the bask, and swear to give your life to prevent any catastrophe your endeavor may cause

>>5061990
>Explain Nitya and his ambitions
>Remind them that they cannot stop us

It's always slightly hypocritical, or at least rather damning when a savior and breaker of chains says "I'm strong enough that nothing you do will stop me, because you are weaker than me." Even when we do really mean nothing bad by it, speaking simple facts and acting in the best interests of everyone present.
Just sorta stings to echo what they just escaped from, despite being nothing alike

>>5062014
I was thinking less of a you can't stop me, and more of a I will dig with my bare hands if I have to.

>>5061990
>Explain Nitya Sinha's ambitions and capabilities, and explain the nature of Mari and her sisters so they can understand the necessity of your actions and hopefully agree with them

>Though fate is the salve of fools, Prophecy has its uses. Ask for Carys' aid, and with her foresight and the traditional method of divination you've practiced before, cow the leaders with a theatric fortune telling session

>>5061740
>>5061734
>"Brother Leman, please stop laughing. It is a gift from the Shuni people."

>Explain Nitya Sinha's ambitions and capabilities, and explain the nature of Mari and her sisters so they can understand the necessity of your actions and hopefully agree with them


Seems straight forward.

>>5061990
>Explain Nitya Sinha's ambitions and capabilities, and explain the nature of Mari and her sisters so they can understand the necessity of your actions and hopefully agree with them
>Explain the danger of leaving whatever Mari is containing to fester, how there is a significant possibility that it is both connected to the tyrants the Bask overthrew and that it could escape Mari by growing strong enough over time. It would be best to treat the disease early with some risk rather then hope it never becomes gangrenous

>>5061990
>Explain Nitya Sinha's ambitions and capabilities, and explain the nature of Mari and her sisters so they can understand the necessity of your actions and hopefully agree with them
>Explain the danger of leaving whatever Mari is containing to fester, how there is a significant possibility that it is both connected to the tyrants the Bask overthrew and that it could escape Mari by growing strong enough over time. It would be best to treat the disease early with some risk rather then hope it never becomes gangrenous

>>5061990
>>Explain Nitya Sinha's ambitions and capabilities, and explain the nature of Mari and her sisters so they can understand the necessity of your actions and hopefully agree with them
>>5062127
Good write-in, +1.

>>5062004
Changing the
>Remind them that
To
>Explain the danger of leaving whatever Mari is containing to fester, how there is a significant possibility that it is both connected to the tyrants the Bask overthrew and that it could escape Mari by growing strong enough over time. It would be best to treat the disease early with some risk rather then hope it never becomes gangrenous
It's a good write-in.

>>5061990
>Explain Nitya Sinha's ambitions and capabilities, and explain the nature of Mari and her sisters so they can understand the necessity of your actions and hopefully agree with them
>Tell them that Mari would be indebted to them, and would be very much willing to help advance their development to equal Long-Jia's own.
>Explain the danger of leaving whatever Mari is containing to fester, how there is a significant possibility that it is both connected to the tyrants the Bask overthrew and that it could escape Mari by growing strong enough over time. It would be best to treat the disease early with some risk rather then hope it never becomes gangrenous

I would really rather not tell them that they "cannot stop us". It is completely unfair to spring that shit on them.
They have every right to refuse, and we have no right to force the issue.
Especially when we could just dig up Al-uzza instead.
Let's convince them with actual arguments, and not thinly veiled threats.

>>5062161
We have every right to force the issue. It is a battle against the lord of bloodshed and his mortal champion upon shangrala, and Mari can be vital to the efforts of our survival as well as that of prosperity.

Refusal to permit this action wont stop us, simply make us act covertly instead of directly. So it is best to be up front about it.

>>5062172
>It is a battle against the lord of bloodshed
Which they have nothing to do with, and can choose to peace out with if they want to. I know, why don't we describe what a terrible threat Nitya is to both of us instead of threatening the poor Bask?
>Mari can be vital to the efforts of our survival as well as that of prosperity
Again, Al-uzza is like, right there.
>Refusal to permit this action wont stop us, simply make us act covertly instead of directly.
That is true, but it is no reason to pull this shit on them when we have both a perfectly good alternative and good reasons to convince them with.
My only issue is the argument basically, not that we should not dig Mari up if they refuse.

>>5062179
Every living thing on the planet has something to do with this war. Those who sit it out die second. But that's not the point of my original comment, the point is that this is an existential foe in which most actions which are otherwise reprehensible are acceptable and inaction is effectively treason.

Al-Uzza is not a viable alternative to Mari. Mari is basically untouched and just needs pulling out.
Al-Uzza is ruined, with her heart ripped open, her repair systems ruined and her body is more badly damaged than Kanzeon was. Repairing her is a much much much more costly endevour, if you remember how much it took for us to repair her individually and all that is without factoring in the dangers of warp radiation so close to the source.
So no, She's not a viable or swift replacement to digging up Mari.

That being said, if we only said "you can't stop us anyway" would make it a veiled threat. Telling them "I'm going to do it, even if you tell me not to but I am giving you this courtesy to keep you informed and promise that no calamity will befall you" is not.
It's underlining the pressing and vital nature of our task and including them in it's execution.

>>5062194
>Mari is basically untouched and just needs pulling out.
...pulling out from underneath "several miles of ice and stone". Hardly a fast endeavour.
And that is on top of whatever she has got brewing inside of her, which could range from a quick fight with a daemon to basically a second front in Bask lands. I don't recall any hard evidence as to what exactly she is keeping locked away, but assuming that it will be fast to deal with is not wise.
But I have no intension of dying on this hill. For what it's worth, I agree that Mari will probably be faster to get out regardless, but I would not dismiss Al-uzza as an alternative. This time, we have another ship to help with repairs after all.

But my main point is that there is no need for threats, which the fourth option very much is.
By saying "even if they do not give [us] their blessing, they cannot stop [us]" we are essentially implying that we will do it anyway, even if they refuse, against their direct wishes, because they can do nothing to stop us. The rest is just fluff, and means nothing when we straight up tell them we will ignore them if the refuse.
To me, it doesn't come off as courteous or realistic, but rather cynical and arrogant.
There is no need to resort to strong arming when the Bask have very real incentives to agree to our request, beyond just "you can't stop us".
I think we should focus on telling them those reasons.

>>5062127
+1

>>5062194
>"I'm going to do it, even if you tell me not to but I am giving you this courtesy to keep you informed and promise that no calamity will befall you"
I'm voting for that, but if the majority vote goes for it then I'll support it.

>>5062222
We just pulled Kanzeon from under a mountain, we can dig.
What we don't know is if we can repair Uzza's damage fast.

But your point of threat remains, that's why I changed my vote. I saw it as more a more I will do it without support, risking myself to protect others, rather than I do what I want and will kick your ass if you disagree, but reading I saw my first impression was wrong.

So we know that psyker primarchs have the ability to inflict permanent changes to their legions geneseed. We also know that Liearan has a hidden rage similar to Sanginius and that he truly loves Kanzeon. My question is what happens if and or when Kanzeon dies.

>>5062364
Who ever will be responsible for it will have a hell to pay

>>5062364
They get forced into a 1-on-1 barbed wire steel cage match with the Ogre in the middle of the Warp. The Undertaker makes a cameo.

>>5062364
We must ask Guonzhi how to do the reincarnating trick.

>>5061990
>Explain Nitya Sinha's ambitions and capabilities, and explain the nature of Mari and her sisters so they can understand the necessity of your actions and hopefully agree with them

>Remind them that, even if they do not give you their blessing, they cannot stop you. But you wish to be a friend of the bask, and swear to give your life to prevent any catastrophe your endeavor may cause

>>5061990
>>Explain Nitya Sinha's ambitions and capabilities, and explain the nature of Mari and her sisters so they can understand the necessity of your actions and hopefully agree with them
>>Explain the danger of leaving whatever Mari is containing to fester, how there is a significant possibility that it is both connected to the tyrants the Bask overthrew and that it could escape Mari by growing strong enough over time. It would be best to treat the disease early with some risk rather then hope it never becomes gangrenous

I think we should spend time in the other nations after cleaning up Chaos and fixing the ships.

>>5062489
Agreed. Once the entire planet has been brought up to prosperous standards,we can focus on the space debris. But what should we do planet wise?
Should we slowly introduce those super nutritious crops into the world? Should we create a manufactorum? Space elevators?
Oh yeah, ae should totally remove the chaos warp threat from the planet entirely, sealing off any breaches or thinnings in the fabric of reality. Perhaps finally building back up that monestary.

I was thinking. You guys know how unconscious believe and psyker mind magics work right? Assuming Lieren lives long enough, and enough people start worshipping Lieren and Kanzeon, what will happen to them? I assume a very slight psyker boost in potency? Performing miracles?

Speaking of the wife, when Shangrala and the space around it has been settled, we will probably have to do some refurbishing to Kanzeon's body, possibly make it larger if possible? Maybe make her body the size of a Gloriana-class Battleship if she isnt that thicc already (unf, she h e a v y). Perhaps we could improve upon the teleportation technology to make more seamless boarding actions against enemy ships? Begin stocking up on something close to GaoT tier suits of PA for when we finally meet our sons? Speaking of family, how are we going to introduce our sons to their "mother?" How are we going to get the emperor's approval? Because we're working with the eldar, and possibly other xenos species, would he be willing to look the other way if we can help with the human web way project?

>>5062750
>Perhaps finally building back up that monestary.
Better off voting for phasing.
>You guys know how unconscious believe and psyker mind magics work right? Assuming Lieren lives long enough, and enough people start worshipping Lieren and Kanzeon, what will happen to them? I assume a very slight psyker boost in potency? Performing miracles?
Guilliman is an approved figure of worship by the Ecclesiarchy and he's more or less the same as when he went down for his nap. Compared to the Emperor, who is the central figure in the Imperial Cult and who's had cults devoted to him spring up in his wake for longer than the Imperium's been around. And the brunt of his power still stems from Molech/being a psychic gestalt. With that as a baseline, Lieren would have to live +10,000 years while being a core figure in a religion that spans the galaxy to see any effects.

>>5062750
>But what should we do planet wise?
Academies, Laboratories, Rebuild old cities, a Fortified defense network combined with underground tunnels&vaults. New monasteries too.

>Should we slowly introduce those super nutritious crops into the world? Should we create a manufactorum? Space elevators?
If the crops aren't nocive to the world, it could do. Otherwise they can be used in terraformed worlds/moons/space habitats.
I think we could copy the ship forges and attempt to replicate them in industry instead, they seem very efficient and productive.
They could be useful, at least one if we can.

>I was thinking. You guys know how unconscious believe and psyker mind magics work right? Assuming Lieren lives long enough, and enough people start worshipping Lieren and Kanzeon, what will happen to them? I assume a very slight psyker boost in potency? Performing miracles?
The powers of Lieren, beside the usual psyker moves, are mostly based on creating long lasting and deep human connections as well the Journey, its why he can manifest those miens based on his companions or followers, and his companions or followers can receive his powers. It s likely this powers will grow stronger, we don t know what can happen next though. We can write it though, with new miens and what not. Or with the choices presented to us.

>make it larger if possible?
Maybe we could change the colony ship in to a even larger one, it could be done but it would require a lot of rare resources. Once found it wouldn't be a problem, we have already many mines and refineries. With the whole world, we should have even more. Perhaps we could connect together all the colony ships of the expeditions and see about making an even larger vessel.

>seamless boarding actions against enemy ships?
Technology is more a question if it's wise to use it, Kanzeon alone has plenty of it that neither us or her are sure to use because of the amount of destruction it can make. We will likely have an even bigger pool of knowledge once the other sisters are repaired.
cont

>>5062750
>Begin stocking up on something close to GaoT tier suits of PA for when we finally meet our sons?
Advance armors/equipment shouldn't be a problem to make, but is the same question as above. We are already making a lot of advance armors, weapons, equipment and even vehicles for our military forces right now.

>to introduce our sons to their "mother?"
Depends. There are lot of interrogatives on how to do this. I suggest to just do it normally, maybe on one of our future defensive platforms above Shangrila. It shows is a genuine relationship. Of course some things should be kept in secret, this is very much correlated to the question under and his results. Not to mention there would be their cousins (tiger men), sisters and aunts.

>How are we going to get the emperor's approval?
Look at our results, our story and relations. I think those speak enough for us than any words. Besides this is a point that we aren't going to accept a no. And neither we will accept the usual treaty for unite with the imperium.

>if we can help with the human web way project?
We can help with numerous things, same for Kanzeon and her sisters. Proof is on display with Shangrila and anywhere else we go before finding the imperium.

>>5062859
I will never stop voting for the monastery.
Like I never gave up Phasing

>>5062750
I'm not opposed to a lot of those thing but I think we should learn about the other cultures, find more animals, and meet more people. My biggest goal is to start up ship building industry and start conquering other planets with the diplomacy and economics. Though we'll need our homeworld better defended, maybe make our own knights?

>>5062860
>The powers of Lieren, beside the usual psyker moves, are mostly based on creating long lasting and deep human connections
That's the fragment of enlightenment. You know the "cycle without end" which Lieren has literally called it before. Really with enough enlightenments he could potentially do anything with psyker powers.

So how do we get fragments of enlightenment?

>Explain Nitya Sinha's ambitions and capabilities, and explain the nature of Mari and her sisters so they can understand the necessity of your actions and hopefully agree with them

>Remind them that, even if they do not give you their blessing, they cannot stop you. But you wish to be a friend of the bask, and swear to give your life to prevent any catastrophe your endeavor may cause

>>5062876
God I miss that quest

>>5062860
>Perhaps we could connect together all the colony ships of the expeditions and see about making an even larger vessel.
But that's incest.

>>5062876
Phasing?

>>5062892
Maybe create a shipyard geared more towards recycling and refurbishing hulked/damaged ships, rather than using raw materials to build entirely new ones, but still capable of building entire ships. You know, reduce, reuse, recycle.
I recall that some of the bigger ships are big enough to have manufactorums in them, so that's a plus. A fleet of ships is like a mobile industrial base.

>knights
Those usually required entire planets dedicated in their manufacturing, but there also lies them problem is Kanzeon has maintained the knowledge to make them, or if she wants to make them to begin with. Both her and Lieren are adamant to introducing anymore weapons of war. Oh and any Knight she knows of arent the hunchbacked derpy ones we know.

>>5062944
Read more Ching Chong books?

>>5062944
Meditate more and realize fundmental truths of reality.

>>5062982
>Those usually required entire planets dedicated in their manufacturing, but there also lies them problem is Kanzeon has maintained the knowledge to make them, or if she wants to make them to begin with. Both her and Lieren are adamant to introducing anymore weapons of war. Oh and any Knight she knows of arent the hunchbacked derpy ones we know.
It's less they're against introducing anymore weapons of war but are against super speeding up tech development beyond socialtile because that leads to bad shit. Also dependancy on Kanzeon to maintain it. and make it.

>>5062944
Keep on that Cultivation Grindset to level up. Maybe call Magnus up to get some of those sweet cheat pills as well.
>>5062982
>Phasing
Go on suptg and search for Homeless Mutant Quest, than despair because of crackbitch JJ's tale ends on a cliffhanger.
>>5062981
RIP Crusty.

>>5062992
Kanzeon originally wanted to share a ton of technology and Lieren argued against it because it's a dangerous in the hands of people not ready for it and B would have made dependancy.

this was even against stuff that would allow them to solve polution from day 1 cause people wouldn't know how to maintain or build the shit themselves.

He's not going to get along with the mechanium that well at all due to their desire to horde shit in general.

>>5062982
>>knights
>Those usually required entire planets dedicated in their manufacturing, but there also lies them problem is Kanzeon has maintained the knowledge to make them, or if she wants to make them to begin with. Both her and Lieren are adamant to introducing anymore weapons of war. Oh and any Knight she knows of arent the hunchbacked derpy ones we know.
I was thinking of using something more like Titanfall style mechs with some Wraithknight inspired stuff instead of traditional knights. Also Kanzeon is fine with more tech released as the other guy said and we do need more answers to major enemies that isn't "rely on Lieren to solve it".

>>5061990
>Explain Nitya Sinha's ambitions and capabilities, and explain the nature of Mari and her sisters so they can understand the necessity of your actions and hopefully agree with them
>Explain the danger of leaving whatever Mari is containing to fester, how there is a significant possibility that it is both connected to the tyrants the Bask overthrew and that it could escape Mari by growing strong enough over time. It would be best to treat the disease early with some risk rather then hope it never becomes gangrenous

>>5061989
>>Explain the danger of leaving whatever Mari is containing to fester, how there is a significant possibility that it is both connected to the tyrants the Bask overthrew and that it could escape Mari by growing strong enough over time. It would be best to treat the disease early with some risk rather then hope it never becomes gangrenous
>>5062876
>spoiler
Don't let the flame die out, brother. And never forget; Laura a cute. A CUTE!
>>5062981
>God I miss that quest
You and me both, man. That screening of Deadpool has been going on for way too long.
>>5062982
>Phasing?
Running joke from Homeless Mutant Quest, which set a gold standard of sorts for good quests. Even unfinished it's worth your time to read.

Might go start it again myself, actually.

>>5061990
>Explain Nitya Sinha's ambitions and capabilities, and explain the nature of Mari and her sisters so they can understand the necessity of your actions and hopefully agree with them
>Explain the danger of leaving whatever Mari is containing to fester, how there is a significant possibility that it is both connected to the tyrants the Bask overthrew and that it could escape Mari by growing strong enough over time. It would be best to treat the disease early with some risk rather then hope it never becomes gangrenous

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The fact someone doesn't know what phasing is in reference to makes me feel so fucking old anons. Jesus christ

>>5063231
Lmao
https://titanfall2.fandom.com/wiki/Titans
https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Contemptor_Pattern_Dreadnought
I did a little searching and I think the comtemptor is 4.5m tall. Depending on the source, titans from Titanfall usually range from somewhere between 20-25 feet (Titanfall 1 Atlas lore), or a flat 20 feet in Titanfall 2. That's roughly 6.1 meters. Imperial knights are anywhere between 9 to 12 meters tall.

A titan would be hilariously big, not to mention extremely agile compared to the slow moving Dreadnaughts. In wonder if it would be better tovpermenantly integrate nearly dead space marines into titans instead of dreadnaughts.

Looking back on it. I can't believe Kanzeon was a secret we could have missed.

We would be in for an extremely bad time if we hadn't decided to poke at that cave some more while going through the bone devouring forest.

Calling the vote now. Sorry for the wait.

Explain Nitya Sinha's ambitions and capabilities, and explain the nature of Mari and her sisters so they can understand the necessity of your actions and hopefully agree with them:16

Remind them that, even if they do not give you their blessing, they cannot stop you. But you wish to be a friend of the bask, and swear to give your life to prevent any catastrophe your endeavor may cause: 5

Though fate is the salve of fools, Prophecy has its uses. Ask for Carys' aid, and with her foresight and the traditional method of divination you've practiced before, cow the leaders with a theatric fortune telling session:1

Explain the danger of leaving whatever Mari is containing to fester, how there is a significant possibility that it is both connected to the tyrants the Bask overthrew and that it could escape Mari by growing strong enough over time. It would be best to treat the disease early with some risk rather then hope it never becomes gangrenous:10

Tell them that Mari would be indebted to them, and would be very much willing to help advance their development to equal Long-Jia's own.:1

Total votes:17

So Lieren will explain the threat posed by Nitya Sinha's ambition, the nature of Mari and her sisters and why they are necessary to halt the butcher kings advance, as well as the dangers of leaving whatever Mari is containing to fester

Writing now

>>5063515
The next time we decide to make a wonder with Kanzeon, could we make human and space marine piloted titans? The 20ft tall ones for normalish humans, and the 25ft ones for space marines, dreadnaught pilots, or really big humans?

>>5063515
Hey malal, how bulky does our power armor get? Is it like normal 40k bulky armor or is it more streak and streamlined?

>>5063516
honestly with lotus tech no space marine should have to be dreadnaughted. Just clone them a new body and move their soul to it.

>>5063520
I hope our legs arent goofie kinds of thick. We really need to start wearing a portable force field.

>>5063521
That's not a bad idea. We'd probably need their consent though, like always. Though, does doing so go against one of our tenants about all things ending? Is it wrong to perpetuate existence if it can be?

>>5063522
>That's not a bad idea. We'd probably need their consent though, like always. Though, does doing so go against one of our tenants about all things ending? Is it wrong to perpetuate existence if it can be?

this was answered back when we fought the dark eldar. Just because you should accept death doesn't mean you should just give up and die. If death is unavoidable then well it's the end for you. Doesn't mean you can't stave it off however.

>>5063503
It's worth remembering that 40k is technologically regressive and retarded.

>>5063523
Oh. Well sweet! Our brother Khan will like this news. His Dreaddies hate being slow. Oh snap, do you think we could use this technology on Angron to save him if his brain can't be salvaged?

>>5063525
It's also worth remembering we got access to a post iron war DAoT database.

>>5063526
to clarify, Using that idea as a way to save someone's life is okay.

Using it to avoid dying cause you're terrified of death and don't want to ever die is not.

also hopefully we can prevent him from ever getting nailed.

>>5063528
I think it's been eight, nine, or close to ten years now. Chances are hes got the nails in his head already. I vaguely recall talking about this in the last thread.

>>5063526
>>5063528
I'd like to introduce you guys to the concept of regeneration.
https://titanfall.fandom.com/wiki/Regeneration

>>5063531
Nah. As magnus pointed out with Pert. Time is extremely fucking relative cause of the wrap. Also the primarch sure as hell didn't all emerge at the same time.

Most of them spent 20 to 30 years on their home worlds before the emperor showed up to pick them up. and considering the amount of time between when they were found they had to have emerged from the warp at different years.

Though you expected a feast, the meal the leaders of the Bask invite you to join is humble and rather meager and shared in part with the laborers assigned to carry out the construction of the new capital of their fledging, democratic republic. You also find, unlike the both the traditional and innovative cuisines of Long-Jia, the offered fare is rather bland and mostly flavored with bitter herbs, sour berries, fat and the rinds of cheeses. Which is understandable considering how inhospitable their surroundings are. And you rather enjoy how they have streamlined their cooking to supply necessary nutrients, vitamins, proteins, sugars and fats before considering any flavor or extravagance to their meals. Though their wine is far too sweet for your taste, but, if a man can drink dragon's spit liquor he can drink anything. You will have to see about importing spices and flavorings from the Long-Jian and Shuni provinces to Bask, if only so they can enjoy the simple pleasure of a nutritious AND delicious meal.

You sit besides Elazar and Qiqiang, with Kanzeon at your side, and the various other working class leaders of the rebellion surrounding the four of you. Elazar, is as expected, a supremely charismatic man. Handsome and boldly confident in manner, his dark hair is curled like wool and worn long, and he to wears a mustache though his is thin and well kept, reminiscent of the style favored by the old Yan fashion. He is dressed, colorfully yet commonly, with his dyed linens undecorated except for medals and a stylized depiction of a church or perhaps a monastery upon the back of his hardy leather coat, which is lined with untreated and undyed wool. He was wearing a odd hat, wide brimmed but with one side curled and bent upwards and though the communal dinner is guarded by men with imparted Long-Jian Rifles, which were surplus from the rebellion according to the General four seats across from you, Elazar still keeps a thin, long sword at his hip unlike any you've seen before. An elegant yet simple weapon, that complements that liberators style well.

The meal you share, reveals much to you of the nature of your host and his fellow government officials. They're all passionate men, the fires in their heart starkly contrasting the cold of their environment. Some, are zealots who seek your approval or respect by detailing the executions and battles they carried out against the nobility and their thralls. Others, like the Master of commerce, are gentler souls, and try to find you ear to discuss an expansion of trade networks or hiring you to bring heating to every city, town, village and hamlet of the bask while their older, more world weary counterparts bemoan the losses they suffered in their war or join the warhawks in their recounting of the victories and glories they won in their own rebellion.

Elazar himself, is a man who could and should have been king.
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>>5063543
He is humble, generous, and naturally protective and caring for his fellow man. Though his face is scarred, and what skin he exposes bears marks of torture most foul and cruel, he remains a peacefully merry man, refilling your glass and Kanzeon every other sentence, without prompting or pausing in his speech. And as readily as he pours wine, he compliments and praises all around him, particularly comparing Qiqang's wisdom and perseverance to your own, or the genius of one of his now thoroughly drunken peers to Kanzeon's once he learns of the part she played in Long-Jia's rapid technological and societal advancements.

The freedom fighter of the bask, is naturally personable and gregarious, open and honest in all his dealings. You have only just met, but he holds himself as if he is meeting with a long lost brother or father. There's a certain Panache to the way he holds himself and speaks, that would make him seem more like a character from song or myth than any ordinary man if he were not so quietly humble and courteous. He has the soul of a poet, a dancer, a playwright, but he was made to be a warrior and fighter.

What surprises you most, is that Elazar was once a priest who was considered a heretic by the populace for his preaching of a mother beneath the ice rather than a father as the old canon of the bask's faith held to have descended from the heavenly courts to birth out their civilization. And he had been beaten and left in stocks in the bitter snow until Gao Qiqiang came across him and remembering the inhuman tortures his own father carried out against his court and servants, freed him at once and nursed him back to health.

Which, is how the two met and became close friends. and how Elazar heard the journey and intermingled it with his own faith. He regales you with the lessons the humble Qiqiang gave to him for hours, with tears streaming down his eyes into the two scars that begin at the edge of his lips and are cut near to his ears. Thin, white things that give the man the appearance of a constant, jubilant grin.

A mockery left by the men who tortured him and sought to poison him, flesh and soul.

In fact, his story of how he was captured goes on for so long, that all of the laborers and most of his fellow senators leave to return to their quarters, and the cooks sit down at the table, to enjoy the food they made themselves as Elazar rambles on and on. Until, at last, there's only eight men sitting around the high table, including himself.

Then, his demeanor shifts, he sets down the decanter of honeyed wine he had been sharing, brushes back his hair and turns to address the remaining four, besides yourself, Kanzeon and Gao Qiqiang. He breathes out, and you note, despite the quantity of alcohol he shared with his fellows and the workers and cooks, he had partook of none himself.
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>>5063544

At once you realize why. It was a cunning trick to get the less important and trusted officials out of the meeting, and any curious ears to return to their homes. What a cunning man! He managed to avoid insulting the junior officials and politicians, and gained their favor as well as that of the common people by playing the part of a gregarious, generous host. Though it is clear he truly enjoyed being able to share so readily and easily, and that every compliment he spoke was true and honest praise.

"Ah, now that the present company has been shorn down to those who have been with me since the beginning, and our true most trusted and venerated of guests" He says, kicking both his legs on to the table and leaning his chair back as he pulls his odd hat halfway down over his brow "We can begin our meeting in earnest, without braggarts and uninitiated chaff present to hear and misunderstand what is spoken between us"

He grins, revealing two rows of perfect, well polished teeth. Then he turns to you and Kanzeon, who are seated in a respectful, cordial manner as determined by Long-Jian etiquette and courtly rules.

"And the father of the great work, the journey, which has reignited the soul of our people! And cleansed it of the stagnant waters it was forced to swallow by those bastards in their high towers!" He proclaims jubilant, throwing his hands up and tipping his chair backwards as Qiqiang silently raises his glass, and the four others, one of which was the general who told you of the importation of Long-Jian rifles, stand up and clap their hands, before bowing to both him and you.

He swings his legs from the table, and rotates his chair in the same motion, slamming it down so he can face you directly. He leans forward slight, and looks into your golden eyes, his own filled with a look of reverence and awe.

"As kind and gentle as the songs claim" He mutters "Now, may I ask, Lieren Jadegrower, what business brings you and your wife so beautiful the stars themselves wheep at her arrival, to the nation of the free peoples of Bask. I know from all accounts, you are not a man who would whimsically leave his duties to go sight seeing on a leisurely, romantic tour of foreign lands"

"Quite astute of you, Sir Burueliza" You say through your teeth as you smile, almost as happy to hear the compliment as Kanzeon herself is "But I have come to your fair lands for a most plainly austere purpose, a duty entrusted to me by Long-Jia Jinhai to seek assistance in the unavoidable war between us and the Butcher of Kings, Nitya Sinha, the tyrant of the once plentiful vishnu kingdoms"

Elazar narrows his eyes.

"I figure, we Bask are not the assistance you seek. We have nothing in the way of resources, technology or man power that Long-Jia herself cannot provide" he correctly guess, almost as if in staring into your eyes he was able to see into your heart as well.

Which may be possible, considering how closely kindred of spirits you seem to be.
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"So, you have come here, to seek our assistance in finding the aid you have been commanded to seek, no?" He asks with a flippant shrug of his shoulders

"How peerlessly perceptive" You praise with a benevolent sneer as Kanzeon pretends to sip at her wine, quite intrigued by Elazar now that he was seemingly able to read your mind "Yes, but, I have more come to ask for your permission to seek it"

"Why would you need to?" Elazar questions, inclining his chin ever so slightly "The Vishnu threaten all free people, we'd be happy to help you find whatever hidden or mystical force you seek to court to your side, oh golden eyed giant? So tell me, friend of all men, why do you feel you need the permission of a failed priest, amauter duelist and wholly coincidental leader and liberator?"

Your expression hardens, and becomes as grim as the Bask mountains. Your eyes narrow, and you look down at the ever smiling Elazar

"Because, what I've come to do, could endanger and threaten all of Bask and her people" You state sternly "But I believe it necessary considering that Nitya Sinha's ambitions drive him to commit a world wide slaughter for the sole cause of shedding as much blood and murdering as many men as he can before he is put down"

"Three nations against one, what do you know of the butcher that makes you believe the bulwark of three most prosperous nations would falter against him?" He asks gravely, all joy and light fading from his eyes, revealing the hardy warrior who burned out the infection of Tyranny from his lands without any of the advantages the rebellion you lead was so fortunate to have

"It is, difficult to explain, My good compatriot, but, Nitya Sinha, possess an army without end that can be replenished as easily as a wine in a cup" You explain, folding your hands together while glancing at the other leaders at the table, all of whom look as grim as Elazar himself "and he equips and supports this incomparable army with weaponry that can only be describe as apocalyptic. With simple stones, he can render entire cities to nothing more than fields of molten glass. He can tear me asunder to their most basic of chemical compounds. He can make the sky weep fire from flying fortresses of steel harder than any other. And these are just three of the weakest and least destructive weapons he equips his army of constructed, frenzied warriors as he leads them on a conquests whose only goal is death"

The table falls silent until Elazar lightens the mood with a click of his tongue

"That is a good enough cause to risk the return of damnation for a whole nation" He says with a nod "If we had any aid to offer in overcoming such an overwhelming foe, we would have already given it. We, however, swear to help in anyway we can in the impending days of mindless violence soon to come. But may I ask"

He adjusts his posture, lowering his tone as he addresses you seriously and so gravely you idly muse that most corpses are not as grim as he is in this very moment