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You are Lieren, Brother of Magnus of Prospero, Son of Wenyan of Nothing and Son of a nameless and distant father, Grand Architect of Long Jia, Head of the ministry of development, Lover of Kanzeon, Grand Master of the Wanderers in the Fog, savior of the oppressed and abused, gentle hearted giant and the nemesis of lords of discord and their servants living or dead.

Having overcome the tribulation forced upon you by the reawakened self titled lord of paradox, Chung Qiang and endured the wrath of Kong Nue, to inspire hop within the heart of the trapped spirit Arianka, you were rescued from the wicked spirit Be'lakor's cowardly blade by the arrival of your creator, your "birth" father, the emperor of mankind and were made to swear an oath of silence of the true nature of chaos and the Empyrean. Being granted the privledge of meeting one of the indomitable warriors spun from your genetic code, you imparted words of wisdom and advice to the Noble Dae-Hyun, the leader of the legion of Adeptus Astartes made in your image.

Returning then to the realm of the living, upon Shangrala, You returned to your duties as architect and researched the use of Yin Qi and devised a new martial style with Kanzeon's assistance. Precise and deadly and able to be utilized by psykerists to depower similarly empowered opponents, you named the new art after the night crane's whose movements its resembled.

Fearing an attack from the tyrants Nityah Sinha and Kamal Kanan, you advised King Long-Jia Jinhai to seek allies in the Bask lands and launch a preemptive and felling strike against the bordering nations of villains.

And so you, Kanzeon, the Brothers of the Panthers, and Feng's new bride Akanksha of the Third tribe of the once Wild Vishnu, marched across the Kang border into the domain of the lord of the desert's night. Equipping your fellow hunters with armor designed after that worn by the Aeldari raiders and weaponry eons more advance than any other upon Shangrala, and warding them in carefully carved and expertly designed Null Denouncement Charms, you began to hunt the Sorcerer Tyrant in his own kingdom.

Striking like lightning falls, you encountered villains and monsters more blackhearted than you had yet encountered, and slaughtered them and tore down their towers while fanning the flames of revolution while spreading the Null Denouncement Script amongst the oppressed masses as you liberated them from their slavemasters. Reaching the Shuni Heartland with Kanzeon alone, you encountered an atrocity beyond any committed in recorded history

Kamal Kanan had converted the populace of the nine most populated and vibrant cities of his kingdom in Magical beasts, and befouled the very land they were constructed upon.

Marching to battle against this legion of monsters, you breached the gates of Kamal Kanan's strong hold and confronted the vile witch
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and began his execution
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Kamal Kanan surrounds himself with a vortex of darkest sorcery, the energy of raw chaos unfiltered and uncontaminated by other less destructive and corruptive forces. The same energy you called into being when you sought to learn Chun Qiang's name and motive. Kanzeon stands by your side, unintimidated, her beautiful features contorted with a rage similar but lesser than the ogreish rage you had unleashed upon the now mauled and half crippled sorcerer. He stands as tall as you, but is twisting and becoming more malformed with every shuddering breath that leaves his lip.

The air is filled with ethereal strands, threads of false fate that only your eyes can perceive. The tell tale signs of sorcery and pyskerism, drawn from the winds of the world of spirits and the dying light of the souls Kamal Kanan has chained and devoured. Like your brother's eyes, they possess an infinite spectrum of colors many of which do not have names nor occur naturally in the world of men or beasts.

They whip and rush through the air, like the tails of a thousand irritated house cats or the tails of the wretched Huli Jing. Kanzeon opens fire, and clawed hands formed of the night sky and the stars within catch the lances of plasma as they near Kamal' grotesquely expanded and torn chest.

Flares of azure flames burst from the orbs of super heated plasma as they are crushed in the immaterial palms of the dozens of hands rising from the sorcerers flickering shadow. A corpse's laughter fills the moon lit throne room, as bolts of killing light and vortexes of corruptive energy fall upon you like a storm of arrows.

Kanzeon grabs hold of your arm, struggling to follow you in the carp's dance as you elegantly avoid the opening barrage of sorcerous death, and maneuver yourselves nearer to the desperate sorcerer. Kanzeon raises her pistol, as Kamal Kanan calls his storm of chaos back to himself, making it rush against your backs. However, as he beckons his stolen power, you toss your Guandao directly at his chest.

In an instant, his flesh becomes the stuff of shadows once more, and a geyser of witch fire explodes and rushes forth from his wailing mouth as he circles the two of you like a viper waiting to strike.

However, he has once again danced into the palm of your hand. Tossing a Null Denouncment Charm you had hidden in within your transforming suit of armor, you channel your will into it and create a stream through the mutative blaze. Kanzeon, raises her own hand, mocking Kamal's habit of performing his spells in such a manner, and produces an arc of electricity from each of her avatar's fingers.

And so, an opening is made. The sorcerer had written her off as an existence akin to Brother Dong's, having been unable to perceive her distant soul resting within her true body. The shock, both figurative and literal, allows you to perform a crippling combination more terrible than the rage fueled pummeling the sorcerer had endured moments ago.
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>>5008986

He had barely survived the Ogre's Wrath, now let him be broken by the Giant's Cunning.

It begins, with a simple action. A call to a part of you divorced from the rest. A drop of moonlight, separated from the gentle half of your soul's seed, lost and alone in a stygian lake of inhuman sin. With a subtle gesture, you channel the golden fire of your soul directly into the miniscule fragment of your spirit that Kamal Kanan had so foolishly drank and poisoned himself upon. His stomach physically churns and bubbles, flesh melting and bones shattering as a blazing ball of golden light erupts from within his gut.

Alien organs, monstrous creatures, and impossible shapes explode from the crater created within the sorcerers belly, wraithlike figures falling from the abyss of his bowels to claw and crawl from his flesh like rats escaping a burning field. Then the fires of Yang become the freezing waters of Yin, forcing the tyrant to return to a physical form so you can more efficiently beat the souls he has consumed out of him like rice from a sack.

Adopting one of the night crane style's stance, one of its more aggressive, you rush forward with skipping steps and leaps. You can see through the threads of his sorcery, every connection between his soul and those it infects like a parasite, he raises his scepter, calling down a hail of winged knives from the shadows the two of you fall into.

They cannot hope to pierce your armor, for it was crafted from Kanzeon's flesh by her own hands!

Striking and shutting off his bodies meridians with finger jabs, pinches and flicking kicks, you deprive him of the ability to wield the power he has stolen from the Emperyan, gained from pacts with its wicked denizens, or cultivated through the demonic act of consuming the souls of his fellow men. And then you introduce a new energy into his being into his soul with a flurry of finger jabs, forming a diagram upon the exposed flesh of his chest.

Qi aligned to the element of wood, by the Weakening cycle of the five elements, overcomes Qi aligned to the element of water. With a flower you had plucked from his own palace's garden, you alter the psionic energy you implant within his essence, both physical and spiritual, to become aligned to Wood. While earth would have a more dramatic and devestating effect, you are not seeking to destroy him with this technique that combines both your Martial skill and Pyskerist abilities.

Rather it serves to acomplish one end, that which you had sought since you first beheld his disgustingly bloated soul and saw it was little more than a web that had caught thousands of others.

With a mere flick, carrying a spiritual weight potent enough to shake the frail frabric of reality within the Shuni Capital, you set in motion a cascade of severing and unraveling.

In an instant, you take the horrid power Kamal Kanan had cultivated through the suffering of other men away from him.

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>>5008987

For a moment, it would seem his body would be torn asunder and completely destroyed by the flood of escaping souls issuing forth from his every orifice and wound. The silence of the night is broken by the deafening roar of countless tortured souls at last freed from the stomach of their tormenter.

Somehow, the sorcerer yet possess the will to cling to his loathsome excuse of a mortal existence, his guts spilled before him, his jaw broken, and his skin torn from his overgrown muscles and frame. The Ceiling of the tower is torn away by the sheer force of the escaping spirits, exposing the three of you and the spirit scribe to the night's air.

"Bravo, Bravo" The devil mocks, clapping its hands together as it scorns the broken sorcerer that lays motionless at your feet, drooling and whimpering as ruined body struggles to resist the countless, constant mutations afflicting it.

He tries to cast a spell, a dying curse. But he has no power of his own.

"You weren't even a natural psyker" You spit in disgust as Kamal Kanan stabs his dagger blunt upon the armor your wear. Kanzeon kicks him away. The once mighty king of a thousand and one cities, curls into a ball and struggles to crawl away as he is twisted into an even more abhorrent form than before.

"What should we do with this genocidal monster, Lieren?" Kanzeon asks, hiding more rage in your words than you have ever seen her express before

Well, what do you do with Kamal Kanan, Lieren?

>Hang him from the gates of his city, like any other criminal.

>"A soul as black as yours does not deserve redemption nor reincarnation, however, No power upon heaven or earth possesses the authority to hand down such a punishment. Instead, I sentence you to die via a firing squad of one" Motion to Kanzeon "You may fire when ready"

>Just lift him by his throat and crush his neck, there's no reason to be theatric

>"You are no man, but a devil incarnated into flesh". Banish him from the world of men

>Write in
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>>5008989
>>Just lift him by his throat and crush his neck, there's no reason to be theatric
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>>5008989
>Just shoot him and burn his body. Hanging him would send a message to other tyrants, but there's a chance one of his sons could retrieve it and uss it as a rallying call.
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>>5008989
>Hang him from the gates of his city, like any other criminal.
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>>5008989
>Use our eyes to see through the Emperyan, and ensure the escapes souls aren't consumed by devils. Just like Gao, we will grant Kamal Kanan one last kindness before killing him. Also, banish the the mocking devil. His commentary isn't needed.
I would wish we can save his soul from being consumed. Better he be reborn as a blade of grass, then digesting on the stomach of the warp.
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>>5008989
>Banish the advisor devil back to the warp before it can sneak away and do some form of evil.
>Hang him from the gates of his city, like any other criminal.
The Daemon advisor is likely juggling many plates and we don't want it to enact plan Y while we are finishing off a utterly powerless Kamal, he can lay broken on the floor a while longer before we hang him like any other.
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>>5009003
Supporting this.
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>>5008989
>"You are no man, but a devil incarnated into flesh". Banish him from the world of men
I'm very interested in how this'll be written.

>>5009008
I don't. We've already cosigned many to suffer those very daemons already and Kamal attempt to devour the souls of others.
No fate would be more fitting then for him to be devoured by the daemons he sought to join.
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>>5009003
Supporting this one. Gotta stay the theme
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In two moves we torn him apart...best short fight yet.
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>>5009027
What theme? The Yama's (who are in charge of reincarnation) erase or permanently cosign to hell souls of particularly evil people. Straight up erasing his soul or sending it to those daemons he worshipped is perfectly in theme. Rather I think you are being hypocritical.
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>Let him see the truth. All his sins and atrocities unveiled by the mysticism and illusions that have ensorcelled his his mind.


Wizard king of the Shuni. Your very thoughts and Faith have been turned against your people by the master. Who holds your leash. For all your heinous crimes you are simply an actor a puppet on your master's string. The only kindness we can grant you is the decision to die a free man or to die a twisted chaos spawn?

Choose your end, servant of the plotter. This is the only kindness befitting one such as you.
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>>5008989
>Hang him from the gates of his city, like any other criminal.
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>>5008989
>>Hang him from the gates of his city, like any other criminal.
How many people are left in the city anyway?
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>>5008989
>>Just lift him by his throat and crush his neck, there's no reason to be theatric
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>>5008989
>Hang him from the gates of his city, like any other criminal.

At the end of the day all tyrants will hang, his accomplishments, his deeds, his powers all made meaningless as he hangs from the same noose as any 2bit murderer should
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>>5008989
>Hang him from the gates of his city, like any other criminal.
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>>5008989
>>"A soul as black as yours does not deserve redemption nor reincarnation, however, No power upon heaven or earth possesses the authority to hand down such a punishment. Instead, I sentence you to die via a firing squad of one" Motion to Kanzeon "You may fire when ready"
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>>5008989
>>Hang him from the gates of his city, like any other criminal.
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>5009303
adding >Use our eyes to see through the Emperyan, and ensure the escapes souls aren't consumed by devils. Just like Gao, we will grant Kamal Kanan one last kindness before killing him. Also, banish the the mocking devil. His commentary isn't needed.
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>>5008989
>Banish the advisor devil back to the warp before it can sneak away and do some form of evil.
>Hang him from the gates of his city, like any other criminal.

"I didn t forget you scribe or any other evil spirits here. I will blast you away from existance now."
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>>5008989
>Use our eyes to see through the Emperyan, and ensure the escapes souls aren't consumed by devils. Just like Gao, we will grant Kamal Kanan one last kindness before killing him. Also, banish the the mocking devil. His commentary isn't needed.
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>>5008989
>>Hang him from the gates of his city, like any other criminal.
Gotta make sure the scribe doesn't do anything funny as well. Maybe call him a faggot on his way out.

Gotta say toppling the Shuni with just one casualty, and maybe a few people that need a psychiatrist is pretty damn impressive.
Well, the Shuni people got the short end of the stick unfortunately, but I feel like this could have been worse.
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>>5008989
>Banish the advisor
>Hang him from the gates of his city.

The final gift this tyrant shall get, is to look upon his lands before the platform drops. Remember, soothe the spirit with a kindness they dont deserve
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>>5008989
>Hang him from the gates of his city, like any other criminal.
Anything too avoid the stupidity of allowing a soul Lieren considers irredeemable into the cycle of reincarnation because of how hypocritical it is to grant such a mercy to an individual when there were others we've had killed that were more deserving of such an honor. Even worse I suspect this soul bares a stain of evil that'll never leave it and will be carried to the next life as a corruptive force (or at least that's would make the most sense in 40k) or even allow the Chaos gods to corrupt the cycle altogether.
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>>5009352
+1
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>>5008989
>Banish the advisor devil back to the warp before it can sneak away and do some form of evil.
>Hang him from the gates of his city, like any other criminal.
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>>5008989
>Just shoot him and burn his body. Hanging him would send a message to other tyrants, but there's a chance one of his sons could retrieve it and uss it as a rallying call.
>Banish the advisor devil back to the warp before it can sneak away and do some form of evil.
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>>5008989
>>Hang him from the gates of his city, like any other criminal.

Gotta keep consistent
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>>5008989
>>>Hang him from the gates of his city, like any other criminal

Hanging tyrants is lierens thing after all
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Calling the vote now

Just lift him by his throat and crush his neck, there's no reason to be theatric:2

Just shoot him and burn his body. Hanging him would send a message to other tyrants, but there's a chance one of his sons could retrieve it and use it as a rallying call.:2

Hang him from the gates of his city, like any other criminal.: 15

Use your eyes to see through the Emperyan, and ensure the escapes souls aren't consumed by devils. Just like Gao, you will grant Kamal Kanan one last kindness before killing him.: 5


"You are no man, but a devil incarnated into flesh". Banish him from the world of men:1

Let him see the truth. All his sins and atrocities unveiled by the mysticism and illusions that have ensorcelled his his mind.:1

"A soul as black as yours does not deserve redemption nor reincarnation, however, No power upon heaven or earth possesses the authority to hand down such a punishment. Instead, I sentence you to die via a firing squad of one" Motion to Kanzeon "You may fire when ready":1

Banish the advisor devil: 11

Total votes:24

So Lieren will banish the unusually passive devil and hang Kamal Kanan from the gate's of his empty city like any other criminal

Writing now.
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>>5010109
Is there room for banter with this unusually cheeky demon?
Lieren:say hi to your mum for me
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>>5010109
and not to figure out how to lessen the tear in reality to make it less warpy.

>>5010143
no
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>>5010150
He bantered a retconned god back into existence, told Khorne where to go, and like the chad he is, got the number of the chaos god of justice.
Nothing is sacred for this pri-maniac.
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You throw your glare down toward's Kamal Kanan, who hisses like the viper he had styled himself after. The meat clinging to his bones bubbles and froths with constant change. His skin has already been peeled away by the unnatural growth of his body, bones still wrapped with sinew and pulsing muscle push out from beneath his frost and bloodstained cloak, new and more terrible mutations pushing out from his marrow and the distended, prehensile veins that curl and crawl along his bloated frame like a procession of ants.

"He shall be hung, like any other criminal. The depths of one's villainy and the atrocities they have committed in their lives does not grant them a worse death or more dignified end" You state solemly, lowering your voice to prevent your seething hatred from seeping into the decree's words as you speak them "As I have always done before, I shall grant the condemned a final gift. A parting pleasure to accompany them to the halls of hell"

Kanzeon curls her lip, an expression of vexation that smolders in the dim glow of her brilliant emerald eyes, which sharpen with contempt as she stomps closer to the sorcerer, who pathetically yet commendably raises his sole remaining hand as it splits open down the palm to form a fanged maw. Even on the verge of death, he remains defiant. That was more than you expected from a worm like Kamal Kanan, but it does nothing to change your opinion of him nor your judgment of his countless crimes.

"He deserves nothing" Kanzeon states plainly yet ferociously, augmented eyes focused directly on the dying tyrant's heart "Nothing besides a fatal drop from this tower"

"All men are equal, even if some degrade themselves into little more than beasts" You state coldly, placing a hand upon your beloved's shoulder, both to reassure her and to prevent her from executing the villain before his crimes can be read to him, and he can receive the singular charity afforded to the damned.

"He is unable to speak a final request, his state of constant physical fluctuation and the damage done to his jaw and respiratory system has rendered him incapable of speech" Kanzeon mutters angrily, glowering down at the helpless old man who spiteful gurgles half spoken curses and babbled incantations "And even if he was provide his request through non-verbal communication, he would ask for nothing you would be willing to give to him"

"That is an astute observation, Kanzeon, however I know the hearts of men as well as you do, and while he'd petition for mercy or plead for the final chance to end our lives, as you correctly surmised he would" You say plainly, retrieving your Guandao before turning upon your heel to face the spirit that has remained, silently observing the proceedings and recording them upon the marble plaque it carries wrapped between four of its arms.

"His kind is a spiteful breed, and the simple knowledge that he did not die alone should suffice as his last mortal delight" You state triumphantly,
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>>5010181

Swinging the blade of your Guandao down towards the robed figure, igniting it with the golden flames of your soul the moment before it connects and.

All it connects with is ruined, ashen silk. There is no body beneath the cloak. For a moment, you behold a void, a space between worlds, a gap between the wall that separate the reality of men and that of the spirits. You blink, experiencing a rare sense of surprise as the plaque clatters to the floor and splits in twain. A furious hiss issues forth from the closing tear in reality, as you watch the advisor devil scamper away into the depths of the Empyrean, choosing to escape your fury rather than attempt to claim the bounty placed upon your head. This is the first time you've seen one of these leeches willingly abandon their hold upon the material world to instead retreat, terrified. It was most unexpected, and somewhat unsettling to witness

Kanzeon's anger is briefly subdued by the amusement she feels watching you bungle the slaying and banishment of the mocking spirit.

"What an incredible gift!" She teases, before Kamal Kanan reminds her of his existences with a wet, wheezing laugh, and her fury returns

"Well, no matter" You say through a tightly clenched jaw "The outcome is the same, his traitorous conspirator has, in a manner of speaking suffered the same punishment that awaits him now"

"Adorable, now lets get rid of this garbage so I can relish in teasing you over that minor and improbably rare blunder you just made" Kanzeon coos cheerfully, hiding her rage beneath a veneer of joviality.

"It is not a blunder if it achieves the same end" You mutter as Kanzeon helps you lift up Kamal Kanan's oily mass, that continues to writhe and grow in new and disgusting ways. It's a wonder than he has managed to retain his sense of self and humanity, however low of a specimen of it he may be.

Yan Weizha was reduced to a babbling, mewling beast by just the kiss of a wicked spirit, but this wretch was able to tamper with forces men should not wield nor bargain with, and live in a castle filled with the same corruptive energies and even in defeat he manages to retain his dark cunning and intelligence. He channeled power that would ruin any other man in both body and mind, yet he managed to retain his mind while losing his body. It was almost terrifying, even if all of his sorcerous might met nothing before the techniques you have cultivated within yourself.

"Ambitious men often have the strongest wills" Kanzeon explains "Though it is much more probable that this bastard only retains his sapience through sheer spite and rage"

"Perhaps, it is nothing more than a curiosity. His advisor sent from hell has returned from whence it came, and all that remains is to deliver him to his punishment" You say with a shrug, lifting up Kamal's ever shifting mass as Kanzeon shudders beneath

"I do not like this sensation, nor the data I am gathering from it, It reminds me of...the past" She hisses
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>>5010182

"Lets just get this over with, Lieren"

"I swear I'll repay you for having to suffer through this disgusting labor" You say, as lovingly as a man is able to while carrying a stinking mass of cursing, still living sorcerer meat upon his back and shoulders. Kamal Kanan's flesh wriggles like a mass of worms or a tangle of eels.

"Stop thinking about it! I don't want to learn the feeling of regurgitating the contents of my stomach!" Kanzeon barks, before her tone softens "And I'll record that promise, though I know it is nearly impossible for you to forget it"

You smile, and then dry heave as some manner of thick, gelatinous substance oozes from Kamal Kanan's wounds down your neck. Even covered by armor, you can feel the sensation of it trickling down your back. How abhorrent!
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"I am surprised you were able to find his neck" Kanzeon bluntly states as the oozing mass that was once the king of all the Shuni lands and people drips down to the black bricks and stones that pave the road leading into the city he emptied to create an army of pitiful creatures.

"When one has hung as many men as I have, it becomes as second nature" You reply offhandedly "That, and I remembered what his limbs were originally before they began mutating"

"I wasn't able to bear looking at him for a duration longer than a second" Kanzeon says, glaring up at the mass of flesh melting like wax "Still, it is impressive you were able to perform an execution by hanging upon such an altered body, without subjecting it to an extended demise"

"No men should suffer in death" You say, which Kanzeon nods in agreement towards

"Even if the man in question had surrendered the right to call himself human" She says, spitting on the ground in contempt

Cordially, you offer her the switch to detonate the explosive charges the two of you set throughout the city as you marched to Kamal Kanan's tower. She takes it, as a maiden would a flower from her lover and in return, gives you a kiss upon the cheek.

The dawn is greeted by an earth shattering explosion, and Kamal Kanan and his empty city are no more.

What do you do now, Lieren?

>Regroup with the brothers of the Panther, and return to Long-Jia. The remaining sorcerers will kill themselves or die chasing you into the Kang's defensive line. The Shuni people will be free to find their own destiny

>Stay in the land of the Shuni long enough to ensure Kamal Kanan's line is wiped from the face of Shangrala, and to find worthy leaders among the former slaves to begin a new society from the ashes of the old.

>Radio the royal court, and report and confirm Kamal Kanan's demise, and request a detachment of the imperial army be sent into the former Shuni land as peacekeepers.

>Hunt down any remaining spirits or magical beasts summoned or created by the Shuni Sorcerers.

>Write in

And yes, the Advisor/ Commentary Daemon ran away like a bitch, effectively banishing itself rather than get Lieren'd
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>>5010184
>Stay in the land of the Shuni long enough to ensure Kamal Kanan's line is wiped from the face of Shangrala, and to find worthy leaders among the former slaves to begin a new society from the ashes of the old.
>Hunt down any remaining spirits or magical beasts summoned or created by the Shuni Sorcerers.

It is the time of cleansing.
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>>5010184
>And yes, the Advisor/ Commentary Daemon ran away like a bitch, effectively banishing itself rather than get Lieren'd
Sounds like a servant of Tzeentch alright. At least a Khornate Daemon would give us a fight for the ages.
ANYWAYS
>Stay in the land of the Shuni long enough to ensure Kamal Kanan's line is wiped from the face of Shangrala, and to find worthy leaders among the former slaves to begin a new society from the ashes of the old.
>Hunt down any remaining spirits or magical beasts summoned or created by the Shuni Sorcerers.
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>>5010184
>> Radio the royal court, and report and confirm Kamal Kanan's demise but don't request a detachment of the imperial army and instead ask for the help of the Kang so they don't get pissy that we destroyed their long time rivals.
>>Hunt down any remaining spirits or magical beasts summoned or created by the Shuni Sorcerers with the Kang.
>>Stay in the land of the Shuni long enough to ensure Kamal Kanan's line is wiped from the face of Shangrala, and to find worthy leaders among the former slaves to begin a new society from the ashes of the old.
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>>5010184
>And yes, the Advisor/ Commentary Daemon ran away like a bitch, effectively banishing itself rather than get Lieren'd
Lieren's burns and bants are too much for this daemonkin.

>Radio the royal court, and report and confirm Kamal Kanan's demise, and request a detachment of the imperial army be sent into the former Shuni land as peacekeepers.
>Stay in the land of the Shuni long enough to ensure Kamal Kanan's line is wiped from the face of Shangrala,
>Hunt down any remaining spirits or magical beasts summoned or created by the Shuni Sorcerers.

Time to pass the torch onto the peacekeepers and make this place a LongJia protectorate.
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>>5010184
>Stay in the land of the Shuni long enough to ensure Kamal Kanan's line is wiped from the face of Shangrala, and to find worthy leaders among the former slaves to begin a new society from the ashes of the old.
>Hunt down any remaining spirits or magical beasts summoned or created by the Shuni Sorcerers.

I would radio Jinhai and tell him we killed Kamal and plan to stay a while and spread PROSPERITY, but that if anything goes down, he should call us ASAP.
Don't keep him in the dark essentially
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So is Kanzeon's sister ship dead and gone? Or is still not found yet. Because it seemed like Kanan's capital was built on it or something.
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>>5010184
>Stay in the land of the Shuni long enough to ensure Kamal Kanan's line is wiped from the face of Shangrala, and to find worthy leaders among the former slaves to begin a new society from the ashes of the old.
>Hunt down any remaining spirits or magical beasts summoned or created by the Shuni Sorcerers.
>Radio the royal court, and report and confirm Kamal Kanan's demise, and request a detachment of the imperial army be sent into the former Shuni land as peacekeepers.
>Write in
Specify to Jinhai and Daiyu that this is a rare occasion for drastically improve relations with the Kang family. After all the Shuni sorcerers where their enemies from ancient times, and they are still now. The wars they waged where many and so was the suffering inflicted upon each other. Due to the fact that there are still several Sorcerers and their troops in their fallen kingdom, a detachment of Kang Chargers alongside other troops of their household should be send. Thus giving to the Kang the honor to destroy the remnants of their ancient foe.
Of course they will unite with the detachment of the imperial army that will arrive, for avoid problems between the local population and the Kang troops. Inevitably there might be talks about asking for ancient reparations or looted ancient artifacts from the Kang, and we will need to answer them.
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What do you do now, Lieren?

>Regroup with the brothers of the Panther, and return to Long-Jia. The remaining sorcerers will kill themselves or die chasing you into the Kang's defensive line. The Shuni people will be free to find their own destiny

TIme to prepare for the next war.
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>>5010230
If the capital was built directly above her, it'd take a lot more than the explosives Lieren used to reach the ship, let alone damage it. If it is under the capital
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>>5010230
We aren't actively searching for it, we should do it after we are done with Nitya (we will deal with the other sister AI-ship with the tyrant of the south) and the Bask. Then there is the sister AI-ship of the Bask too.
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>>5010184
>Stay in the land of the Shuni long enough to ensure Kamal Kanan's line is wiped from the face of Shangrala, and to find worthy leaders among the former slaves to begin a new society from the ashes of the old.
>Hunt down any remaining spirits or magical beasts summoned or created by the Shuni Sorcerers.

Call for the Kang to join us, let us give them some pride Nd honour taking out their ancient enemies and involve them as we discussed last thread! We must not fuck this up with them!
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>>5010184
>radio the court.
>Hunt down Kamals line and find virtuous leaders from the shuni
>Hunt beasts.

And of course, recommend the peace keeping force is given to the Lang as an honour. We should only take the heads off powerful serpents, the Kang can take what battles they wish. A good faith offering.
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>>5010256
Supporting this call in for the Kang too. Lieren should discuss them getting rid of that totem of Kamal's from their village gate too.
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>>5010316
Don't think they would like that.
Not entirely sure how to handle them either. Treat them as equal commanders of different divisions? The Panthers being partners of the Kang assault force?
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>>5010233
Supporting this, let's give the Kang there do whilst also fulfilling our mandate of PROSPERITY.
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>>5010184
>Stay in the land of the Shuni long enough to ensure Kamal Kanan's line is wiped from the face of Shangrala, and to find worthy leaders among the former slaves to begin a new society from the ashes of the old.
>Radio the royal court, and report and confirm Kamal Kanan's demise, and request a detachment of the imperial army be sent into the former Shuni land as peacekeepers.
>Hunt down any remaining spirits or magical beasts summoned or created by the Shuni Sorcerers.
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>>5010184
>Hunt down any remaining spirits or magical beasts summoned or created by the Shuni Sorcerers.
>Stay in the land of the Shuni long enough to ensure Kamal Kanan's line is wiped from the face of Shangrala, and to find worthy leaders among the former slaves to begin a new society from the ashes of the old.
I'm not keen on stationing foreign peacekeepers to fight against not-arab guerillas.
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>>5010233
>>5010256
I will support getting the Kang involved in the hunt and support network though, it's a chance for them ro become closer to both Lieren and the Shuni.
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>>5010184
>>Stay in the land of the Shuni long enough to ensure Kamal Kanan's line is wiped from the face of Shangrala, and to find worthy leaders among the former slaves to begin a new society from the ashes of the old.
>Hunt down any remaining spirits or magical beasts summoned or created by the Shuni Sorce
>Radio the royal court, and report and confirm Kamal Kanan's demise, and request a detachment of the imperial army be sent into the former Shuni land as peacekeepers.
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>>5010402
adding
>ask Kanzeon if she senses her sister anywhere.
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>>5010184
>Stay in the land of the Shuni long enough to ensure Kamal Kanan's line is wiped from the face of Shangrala, and to find worthy leaders among the former slaves to begin a new society from the ashes of the old.

>Radio the royal court, and report and confirm Kamal Kanan's demise, and request a detachment of the imperial army be sent into the former Shuni land as peacekeepers.

> Write-in/ merge Gather the brothers of the panthers and send them to hunt down any remaining spirits or magical beasts summoned or created by the Shuni Sorcerers.

>>5010233
this write-in as well
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>>5010184
>>> Radio the royal court, and report and confirm Kamal Kanan's demise

>Hunt down any remaining spirits or magical beasts summoned or created by the Shuni Sorcerers.
>Stay in the land of the Shuni long enough to ensure Kamal Kanan's line is wiped from the face of Shangrala, and to find worthy leaders among the former slaves to begin a new society from the ashes of the old.
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>>5010184
>Radio the royal court, and report and confirm Kamal Kanan's demise, and request a detachment of the imperial army be sent into the former Shuni land as peacekeepers.
>Call in our sect and the Kangs to help hunt down and clear out any remanent of Kamal or his patron god's influence
>Check the Shunni equivalent of the Bone devouring forest we learned about earlier to see if there is any caves with that warpstone in them.
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>>5010184
>Radio the royal court, and report and confirm Kamal Kanan's demise, and request a detachment of the imperial army be sent into the former Shuni land as peacekeepers.
>Stay in the land of the Shuni long enough to ensure Kamal Kanan's line is wiped from the face of Shangrala, and to find worthy leaders among the former slaves to begin a new society from the ashes of the old.
>Hunt down any remaining spirits or magical beasts summoned or created by the Shuni Sorcerers.
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>>5010184
>>> Radio the royal court, and report and confirm Kamal Kanan's demise but don't request a detachment of the imperial army and instead ask for the help of the Kang so they don't get pissy that we destroyed their long time rivals.
>>>Hunt down any remaining spirits or magical beasts summoned or created by the Shuni Sorcerers with the Kang.
>>>Stay in the land of the Shuni long enough to ensure Kamal Kanan's line is wiped from the face of Shangrala, and to find worthy leaders among the former slaves to begin a new society from the ashes of the old.

>>5010233
support
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>>5010184
>>Stay in the land of the Shuni long enough to ensure Kamal Kanan's line is wiped from the face of Shangrala, and to find worthy leaders among the former slaves to begin a new society from the ashes of the old.
I just learned that Mortarion of all primarchs was changed the most when the Horus Heresy novels were released. Does that count a nu-lore (and mark it for rejection in this quest's canon) or will you be running with it since it's a change people hardly remember?
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>>5010483
How was Morty originaly?
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>>5010489
To quote a much more knowledgeable fa/tg/uy,
>He had escaped his master on Barbarus and when he found the long suffering people of that world he did everything he could to help them.
>He was grateful for the Emperor’s help in slaying his “Father” and when the Emperor asked him for his help in saving other human worlds from alien tryany, Mortarion happily accepted.
>But the Emperor had other plans for him. The Emperor has found him during the preparations for Nikaea, and he kelp Mortarion isolated from his brothers. He used Mortarion as his mouthpiece during the Council in order to allow himself to seem impartial, and Mortarion unwittingly damages his relationship with his fellow Primarchs with his arguments before he got a chance to properly meet them.
>Then, during his time assisting Horus during the Great Crusade, he found himself horrified that they were conquering free human societies and bringing them to heel with extreme violence.
>Mortarion’s only friend was Night Haunter as they were both outcasts and were utopian thinkers even though they suffered greatly in their philosophy. Horus sent NH to bring him to Horus’ side, and Curze told Mortarion that they were rebelling because the Emperor was a tyrant and offered Mortarion the opportunity to liberate all humanity from tyranny.
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So are we going to meditate on the soul stone after this?
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>>5010503
That's incredibly fucking stupid and takes all the complexity of mortarian beings a liberator and champion of the people with a huge chip on his shoulders against his dads into a sadboy tale taken straight from some shitty revenge fic
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>>5010540
Which part is stupid?
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>>5010233
>Support
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Wait a second, how would people react to knowing we could strip a sorcerer of their sorcery? I think the Kangs would especially be interested in that.
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>>5010184
>Stay in the land of the Shuni long enough to ensure Kamal Kanan's line is wiped from the face of Shangrala, and to find worthy leaders among the former slaves to begin a new society from the ashes of the old.

>Radio the royal court, and report and confirm Kamal Kanan's demise, and request a detachment of the imperial army be sent into the former Shuni land as peacekeepers.

>Hunt down any remaining spirits or magical beasts summoned or created by the Shuni Sorcerers.
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>>5010630
I think they would wish to commit suicide if we gave them another gift of such magnitude.

Now the Vishnu on the other hand.
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>>5010184
>Stay in the land of the Shuni long enough to ensure Kamal Kanan's line is wiped from the face of Shangrala, and to find worthy leaders among the former slaves to begin a new society from the ashes of the old.
>Hunt down any remaining spirits or magical beasts summoned or created by the Shuni Sorcerers.
>Radio the royal court, and report and confirm Kamal Kanan's demise, and update youself on the current affairs of Long-Jia and the Bask diplomatic mission.
Unsure how much time has passed, but checking in on Jinhai and the Bask mission would soothe my paranoia, The planets Nurgle cult has to be somewhere.
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>>5010792
>The planets Nurgle cult has to be somewhere.
Makes me wonder if there's a Malalic cult somewhere as well. We know that there are eight powers influencing events on Shangrala, one for each celestial court. Three gods have (or had) nations that embodied their domains and ideals. Presumably the other five do too, though we have no idea what, where, or who the three of them are or what god they each hold.
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>>5010184
>Hunt down any remaining spirits or magical beasts summoned or created by the Shuni Sorcerers.
Let's focus on the gravest threats, while still leaving the Shuni a chance to prove themselves.
We should also assist with forming (as in: not doing the main work ourselves) an intermediate government to handle the necessary transition.
We have to remain cautious about further enemies and should return to Long-Jia soon.
>Regroup with the brothers of the Panther, and return to Long-Jia. The remaining sorcerers will kill themselves or die chasing you into the Kang's defensive line. The Shuni people will be free to find their own destiny
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Does Kanzeon technically qualify as a bodypillow/dakimakura?
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Sorry for the wait, Calling the vote now.

Stay in the land of the Shuni long enough to ensure Kamal Kanan's line is wiped from the face of Shangrala, and to find worthy leaders among the former slaves to begin a new society from the ashes of the old.:21
-Call on the wanderers in the fog and the kang: 1

Hunt down any remaining spirits or magical beasts summoned or created by the Shuni Sorcerers.:20
-Call for the Kang to join the hunt:3
-Send the brothers of the panthers to do so: 1

Radio the royal court, and report and confirm Kamal Kanan's demise but don't request a detachment of the imperial army and instead ask for the help of the Kang so they don't get pissy that we destroyed their long time rivals: 15
- update youself on the current affairs of Long-Jia and the Bask diplomatic mission.: 1
-Specify to Jinhai and Daiyu that this is a rare occasion for drastically improve relations with the Kang family.:8

Regroup with the brothers of the Panther, and return to Long-Jia. The remaining sorcerers will kill themselves or die chasing you into the Kang's defensive line. The Shuni people will be free to find their own destiny:2

ask Kanzeon if she senses her sister anywhere.:1

Check the Shunni equivalent of the Bone devouring forest we learned about earlier to see if there is any caves with that warpstone in them.1

total votes: 23

So Lieren will radio the royal court, confirm Kamal Kanan's demise and request a detachment of the Imperial army be joined by the Kang's personal (and still recovering) forces to act as peacekeepers in the currently leaderless lands

And then focus on scourging what may remain of Kamal Kanan's lineage and any lingering magical beasts or spirits, before finding worthy leaders among the former slaves to rebuild a new society from the ashes of the kingdom of the night,

Writing now
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I wonder if shuni astartes will be inclined to being librarians
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>>5011575
Definitely. I hope they'll also get some supplementary training in the Crane Style martial arts. When we can no longer fall back to space magic, you always got your body.
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Upon an empty field, where the brothers of the panther had fell upon one of the now masterless detatchment's of the Shuni armies and scattered its leading sorcerers, you sit, observing as Kanzeon leads a small pack of children and elders from their cavernous hideaways. They number no more than a few dozen, but they are all that remain of the population of the Shuni's nine great cities. Besides you, sits a repentant sorcerer by the name of Tahir Azzi, who had become something close to a chronicler of the brief revolution that sprung up in the ash laden wake of your advance and the brothers of the panthers fog shrouded war.

If you had been but a few days delayed upon the road to the capital, a legion of former thralls and liberated slaves would have met with the army made of the unfortunate souls degraded and corrupted into magical beasts. And another slaughter would have commenced, laid at the feet of the wretched tyrant of the fallen kingdom of the endless night.

The chronicler, covered in self inflicted scars and brands denotating him as a traitor to the repugnant faith, a heathen who had once been a "holy man". Now, with clear marks where he cut and burned away the mutations his former lifestyle had inflicted upon him, he records every minuscule detail of the revolutionary army meeting the giant of a man who inspired them to seek their own destiny from beneath the heel of wicked men and crazed magicians.

Not a word is spoken by any member of the hastily fielded army of the masses, most of them stare at your back, consumed by awe and reverence. Some look on in disbelief, some look on in dread, some look on overjoyed. A mix of every imaginable and perceivable emotion runs through the hearts of the army of slaves and laborers.

Only a few, who stand besides you as equals by their own measure and judgement, watch the approach of the survivors whose number is so meager if they were reduced to grains of sand, they could be completely concealed in a clenched fist. From thousands not even a hundred remain. It is a solemn, sorrowful sight. Though the knowledge that a few managed to escape the genocide of their fellows and kin, does bring joy and warmth back to your heart. And judging from Kanzeon's gentle and motherly expression as she leads the group across the open plain, it has always washed away the dark rage that had possessed her in the march through the heartlands. A priceless treasure has returned, that of her comforting smile.

Now certain that no spirit, magical beast, or maddened witch or depraved wizard would emerge from beneath the mists and fog to waylay the small caravan led by your beloved, you tune your personal radio. The apparent leaders of the rebellion, be they former thralls, reformed gentry, or mere merchants who picked up blades and turned against their "betters" in the chaos sown by your passing, watch curiously as you fiddle with the strange alabaster box.
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>>5011685

They have no understanding of what it is, and so they observe quietly, studying your movements and manipulation of the device. A large man, almost as broad at the shoulders as Rudra, recoils as static cackles from the radio's speaker, as it powers on and connects to the "Wild sea of unspoken messages" as the common folk of long-jia have come to refer to the frequencies between active channels.

"Calm yourself Qadir" Tahir says distractedly "It is nothing to fear, The Lord of the Golden sea and its silver moon is merely utilizing a enchanted"

The self redeemed wizard pauses for a moment, as he turns his gaze towards the radio in your hands, pondering what it is and what he should name it as.

"Writing Chest to carry his voice across the lands and through the stars, to speak unto distant listeners" He says, managing to diving the function of a radio from observing your surface level thoughts and studying the subtle shifts in demeanor and manner as you prepared to speak into it

"It isn't magical" You correct, calming the dusky hided Qadir to a greater ease than Tahir's reassurances managed "It is a wonderous technology that allows communication across vast distances by converting the vibrations of the sounds it records into electromagnetic energy that can then be retranslated by other such devices attuned to the same frequency, observe"

You turn the dial to align the radio with Luli's daily broadcast of hymns and readings from The Journey's pages, and press a button and flick a switch to make your radio broadcast them at a volume loud enough to carry across a radius of three Zhang.

"And how do you know the method of producing this effect is not a natural formed enchantment woven into being by the connection and treatment of certain materials?" Tahir questions curiously

You motion to your eyes as Qadir paws almost childishly at the radio, grinning blithely as he hears Luli's pleasantly serene mantras issue forth from it.

"Oh of course" The former acolyte of malevolent arts gasps, nodding his head as he immediately accepts you unspoken explanation as fact.

"How much would it cost to buy one of these far speaker devices?" A portly merchant, who by his own account provided Feng's forces with rations of water and bread out of pure generosity, asks as he runs his fingers through his long hanging beard. A young woman, who you know as is daughter interrupts.

"There's more important things to concern ourselves with, than mere babbles and curiosities" She scolds, smacking him with the back of her hand.

You snort, repressing a chuckle as you turn the dial to align your radio with the station kept at the royal court, and before the operator can request your credentials and the hidden phrase required to gain access to the imperial family's personal signals, you give them without urging.

The gathered Shuni looked baffled by your sudden switch into speaking in the Long-Jian tongue after fluently conversing in Shunish.
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>>5011687

"I have a report to give to King Long-Jia Jinhai, one so vital I cannot delay its presentation by requesting an official audience with our most virtuous and humble imperial majesty" You whisper into the microphone as the operator chokes on his own tongue and struggles to speak the greeting pre-prepared for the few who possess the authority and privledge to contact the imperial family directly.

Judging from his clumsy manner of speaking and nervous state, he must have recently been granted the coveted position of the Imperial court's radio operator. In short order, his elder and superior takes the microphone from him and greets you properly, with a fragment of the poem that all of the coded phrases and official greetings for the imperial station are drawn from.

"His imperial highness, whose majesty, kindness and generosity are peerless beneath the heavens, is currently meeting with a bask official sent by the ascendant government of that quiet kingdoms new regime. It would seem, Lieren, that your Journey had inspired the peasantry of those frost covered lands in the south to seek freedom won by their own hands" The veteran handler exclaims victoriously, as if he was the one to have freed the Bask himself, but his jaunty rhythm is a a welcome change from the brusque and harsh Shuni language "I'll reroute your connection the moment the audience comes to an end"

And then it occurs to you, you heard his junior's voice before! He was the conspiracy theorist from Eastern Gao! The one who believed you to be the incarnation of the record of forgotten science! How
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Jinhai was overjoyed, despite his worry concerning Lieren and his hunter's search for Kamal Kanan's head. For, he his palace was hosting family he had not seen for some time. Gao Qiqiang! His wife's Eunuch brother turned Journeyman, who had vanished into the Bask region nearly a full year ago, had returned alongside the charismatic liberator who styled himself as his student. Apparently, while Long-Jia concerned itself rebuilding and improving itself, and began to prosper under the guidance of wise men like Shan, Shirong, Yunru, Lieren and Kanzeon, the Bask had been consumed a civil war of similar nature to the one that had seen him ascended to the Imperial throne. And one spurned by the Journey's own teaching!

Perhaps Lieren had been in contact with his brother in law, and conspired to create an ally for the kingdom! Or, as his brother had been concerned with the threat posed by the Shuni and Vishnu Kingdoms, his philosophy alone inspired rebellion against the smothering stagnancy of the Bask lords. That sounded more likely, even taking into consideration Lieren's apparent glee for scheming in the shadows and utilizing sly trickery to weaken and overcome his enemies.

Gao Om stands in the crowed, besides Daiyu, who is catching up with her somewhat dull sister and her husband, the chief of the "Settled" as the second tribe of the Vishnu have taken to calling themselves.
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>>5011688

He listened to Qiqiang's translation of his students retelling of the events and circumstance of their rebellion carefully, nodding along as he spoke to show he was still listening and hadn't allowed his mind to wander somewhere odd, as his wife had been tutoring him to do after a visiting member of the Luo region's nobility mentioned he was "King of the clouds in his head", to Qian Xia, who had presented her brother to amaze the expectant Daiyu with "Psykerist techniques" taught to him by Lieren and Grandfather Guozhi.

Reigning in his wandering thoughts, Jinhai praised the rebel leader for his daring escape from the Bask' royalties executions, and his fortitude in withstanding the poisonous gardens they kept in his flight. According to Qiqiang' he endured such hardship through uttering passages of the Journey! Marvelous.

Jinhai's beaming smile turned to a frown as a servant approached him, and whispered into his ear.

"The Grand architect has contacted the palace, and demands to be allowed to give his report of his "venture" beyond the Kang's domain" the man whispered

"Tell him I shall hear it after I've listened to the account of the Bask's liberation, and have discussed the finer details of our alliance and the possibility of the giant's road reaching over their border with our guest" Jinhai whispered, before turning back to the liberator and his translator.

His eyes lingered on his wife, and her growing belly.

A feeling that mingled unease and excitement settled in his gut. He had been told by imperial physicians that his dynasty had been blessed with heavenly providence. For his beloved black jade, carried not one child, but three!

Any man would be cowed by such knowledge, fearful for his wife's help. But, with the advances of medicine his brother had spread and encouraged, and the advancement of the professional knowledge of such practices, the fear for the mother's well being was now almost nonexistent. None of his hairs would turn grey with dread, and he could focus instead on the future where he was the proud father of a clan of carp bred dragons!
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Kang Yongrui, knelt before his father, Kang Shan, who sat at his throne dressed in the full traditional regalia of their warriors. He motioned for two servants to take the silver lion's fur from his back, and the men then carried it to rest upon the once crippled heir's shoulders.

Lai Song and Lady Tao Dandan clapped their hands together, to signify their approval of Kang Yongrui's presence in their "Peacekeeping" efforts in the land of the Shuni. It was clear to Yongrui, neither were passionate or pleased with his appointment, but it had been the command of King Long-Jia, and could not be refused without a great loss of standing and face.

"The giant may have slain the viper, but we shall stomp out the eggs it has laid and collapse its nest beneath our feet" Kang Shan proclaimed "without the assistance of the Dai's armored carriage"
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>>5011691

"Actually Shan designed and produced the Heaven Shattering Turtle, Model Dai, he just named it in honor of the..."Dandan mumbled, before Lai Song, in a show of his incredible lack of grace and etiquette, stomped on her foot to silence her.

"However" His father continued bitterly "as we are humble servants of the Dragon and Carp, we cannot deny the offered guidance of the sages tutored by the..."

Kang Yongrui bit his tongue as he witnessed the pain on his father's face as he struggled to keep refer to the giant Lieren in a complimentary manner

"The ever generous son of Nothing" He managed to sputter, after clawing at his throat for a few moments "The rumored exorcists. Bohai and Peizhi, and the infamous spiritualist Kuan Im and"

Kang Yongrui turned his attention to the bald man dressed in snow white robes stained gold, wearing a mask of mutton fat jade colored with spring pollen.

"the unnecessary blessing and cleansing of our ancestral homes by the once criminal practioner of occults arts, Cai the graverobber" His father spat as the "Sage" Lifted his pressed hands above his head and shook them three times with a string of prayer beads carved from bone clasped between his hands

"He prefers the epithet, Cai of the dark mysteries" A younger man, dressed in white robes stained azure states solemnly, at his side totters a little girl, dressed in the same fashion

Kang Shan glared at him, before his expression softened with forced gentleness and he nodded

"Excuse the slip of my impudent tongue" He growled, as he bowed his head apologetically, before raising his head and sighing "My son, Kang Yongrui, shall lead our forces in accordance to the commands of The lord of cavalry and the Firestorm in subjugating any remnants of the Shuni menace ! At long last!"

Lord Kang howled with laughter

"At long last those sand devils will get their comeuppance for all the agony they have caused our people!' His voiced boomed, carrying across the throne room's high ceiling.

The graverobber turned mystic scattered a vial of scarlet hued liquid upon his wrists, rubbing it into his flesh as he stared at Kang Yongrui from behind his blank mask of jade.
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<Permission received. Surface Access granted to data recorded entitled "Traditions of Shangrala", for a period spanning no longer than thirty Terran standard minutes under direct supervision of the venerable Magos Almeric Graf>

The Great Hunt Festival is a celebration that occurs tri annually in the middle of the august months of the Imperial calender, Celebrating the event known colloquially as the "Silver Lion's retribution", the "Scouring of the viper's nest", the "Breaking of the Shuni priesthood", the "Grand hunt of Magical beasts" or simply as "The Giant's judgement of the desert lords". An event that followed the collapse of the native ethnic shuni government and the end of the reign of the tyrannical dynasty at its head,
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>>5011696

and consisted of pursuit and execution of remaining elements of the former governments power structure and supporters, as well as the mutations they employed in the oppression of the native people's of the region. This celebration begins with ritualized reenactments of the pursuit and capture of the vile tyrant's lineage and the slaying of the mutants and xenos beast they kept as living weapons, alongside a rowdy tournament where local men and women engage in unarmed fighting to decide who shall be named as the festivals "Silver herald"

The festival coincides with the three dragon festival, that begins partway through its duration, and celebrates the births of the first three heirs first virtuous imperial dynasty of Shangrala, that of the still active Long-Jia dynasty. if you wish to research this topic further or study the Three dragon festival and the folk beliefs surrounding it and its connection to encouraging fertility in both the land and people, obtain the Binary access codes necessary to proceed <access denied>
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It has been tiring labor, purifying the Shuni Lands of the lingering corruption of the sorcerers reign. A long hunt, that seemed for some months to have no ends. But, now, it has ended, the last tyrant has been hung and the final acolyte of darkness has been lead to their grave and hangs above the cheering crowds who he and his ilk once treated as fodder and resources to fuel their vile rituals.

Kang Yongrui wears a war mask bearing the visage of a snarling lion, but you can see the unrestrained glee in his eyes as he watches the last loyal servant of Kamal Kanan sway in the desert winds. besides him, stands the Qadif, now a general dressed in the style of Long-Jia, and the Merchant's daughter Aiza Younis who you have determined to be the two most virtuous amongst the noble ranks of the Shuni rebellion. It was a tough decision to make, who would rule over the rest, but amongst the recently ascended lords the former thrall and Aiza had proven the most pure of heart and moral of character.

It helped that Young Aiza had already courted Qadif, and that the liberated masses had already accepted the idea of a female leader. An acceptance that had gone against the previous patriarchal society of the Shuni, and was inspired in part by Kanzeon's formidable presence and commanding demeanor.

So, the Shuni chose to have a queen, surprisingly. A Queen, who after being shown the prosperity of the Long-Jian people and the technology, comforts, and freedoms they enjoyed, had chosen to forsake her kingdom's independence to proclaim its subservience to Long-Jia.

A surprising turn of events which rendered the Kang men speechless. As they had spent hours laughing and mocking their old enemies as you struggled to, with Qian Xia's aid, to figure out if that was politically possible.

It was, you determined after long arguments and debate with various lords of Long Jia and the lords of the prospective Shuni provinces.
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>>5011699

A conclusion that was only reached when Michah, having returned with a hunting party of the brothers of the panther who had remained in the former Shuni Kingdom after they had heard of a deadly reptilian beast that could be found in its northern and easternmost regions, had suggested the outcome that was accepted by both parties.

Namely that the land would be divided up into provinces of similar size to those of the traditonal Long Jian borders and that Aiza Younis and Qadif would be allowed to retain their royal titles.

Which meant that you now had an emperor as both a father and brother.

Which was why Jinhai now stood before a conference of strangers who could no speak his mother tongue, who knelt before him and offered their vassalage and eternal loyalty. Feng, still dressed in his Aeldari style armor, stood at his side, along with Zian and Rong, who were serving as his personal guard.

He only needed three men to guard him, because they all held Plasma rifle and power field equipped spears. There was little if anything upon Shangrala that could challenge such raw power.


You observed the procession and ceremonial proceedings, which were carried out hastily as Jinhai and most of his entourage could scarcely stand the native heat and humidity of the Shuni lands.

What do you do now, Lieren?

>Personally Meet with the new Lords of the Shuni Provinces as the Grand architect of Long Jia, and extend the Giant's road into the region while beginning to map out the region and plan its development

>Return to nothing to reflect upon all that has been achieved in the name of Prosperity and to celebrate your father Wenyan's birthday

>Join the hunting party for the rumored serpentine beasts, the "Swallowers of sin", that even the wizards of the Shuni feared

>Daiyu is soon to give birth to triplets, Honor your brotherhood with Jinhai, and make certain you are present to greet his children when they arrive into this world and life

>Write in
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>>5011701
>Return to nothing and celebrate dads birthday
>Honour our brother and god children by being there.
>Extend the giants road.

We cant ignore dad or our brothers kids! There isnt a war to justify it!
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>>5011701
>Return to nothing to reflect upon all that has been achieved in the name of Prosperity and to celebrate your father Wenyan's birthday

>Daiyu is soon to give birth to triplets, Honor your brotherhood with Jinhai, and make certain you are present to greet his children when they arrive into this world and life
>Personally Meet with the new Lords of the Shuni Provinces as the Grand architect of Long Jia, and extend the Giant's road into the region while beginning to map out the region and plan its development
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>>5011701
>Return to nothing to reflect upon all that has been achieved in the name of Prosperity and to celebrate your father Wenyan's birthday
Dad's time is drawing near we must savoir the time we have.

>Daiyu is soon to give birth to triplets, Honor your brotherhood with Jinhai, and make certain you are present to greet his children when they arrive into this world and life
Watch our friends back for warpnfuckery. Also while in the palace have a once over the place....something seems off and I want to ensure the rot is not trying to reinstate itself.
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>>5011701
>>Write in
Bring back and bury our lost brother. We would probably find a secluded area where only the annointed brothers of the panther will be laid to rest or ritually fed to the local panthers that he might live on ever more in the fog.
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>>5011701
>Personally Meet with the new Lords of the Shuni Provinces as the Grand architect of Long Jia, and extend the Giant's road into the region while beginning to map out the region and plan its development
>Return to nothing to reflect upon all that has been achieved in the name of Prosperity and to celebrate your father Wenyan's birthday
>Daiyu is soon to give birth to triplets, Honor your brotherhood with Jinhai, and make certain you are present to greet his children when they arrive into this world and life
>Learn about the lands of Bask and the recent events that have transpired there
So the Bask were Nurglite after all, rather funny how easy it seems they went down unless the Journey has crazy anti-chaos/faith properties or the death toll was absolutely horrific.
Lieren needs to tour the place soon and poke the brains of the faithful rebels, maybe that will give the Emperor enough evidence to convince him the Journey is a good thing by displaying how strongly it counters chaos without triggering his anti-theist obsession.
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>>5011701
>>Join the hunting party for the rumored serpentine beasts, the "Swallowers of sin", that even the wizards of the Shuni feared
I want my sand worms.
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>>5011701
>Descend into the depths of Kamal Kanan's foul palace in order to search for your beloved's sister.
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>>5011701
>Personally Meet with the new Lords of the Shuni Provinces as the Grand architect of Long Jia, and extend the Giant's road into the region while beginning to map out the region and plan its development
>Return to nothing to reflect upon all that has been achieved in the name of Prosperity and to celebrate your father Wenyan's birthday
>Daiyu is soon to give birth to triplets, Honor your brotherhood with Jinhai, and make certain you are present to greet his children when they arrive into this world and life
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So nobody is interested in the cool shit sand worms could give us?
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>>5011736
Supporting
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>>5011701
>Learn about the lands of Bask and the recent events that have transpired there
>Contact Qiqiang and his disciple.
>Descend into the depths of Kamal Kanan's foul palace in order to search for your beloved's sister.
>Personally Meet with the new Lords of the Shuni Provinces as the Grand architect of Long Jia, and extend the Giant's road into the region while beginning to map out the region and plan its development
>Join the hunting party for the rumored serpentine beasts, the "Swallowers of sin", that even the wizards of the Shuni feared
Any of these are fine.
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>>5011789
Adding.
>>Descend into the depths of Kamal Kanan's foul palace in order to search for your beloved's sister.
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> Write-in: Extend the Giant's Road and a railroad connecting the new lands with the old.

Nothing makes more sense if you want to quickly develop the territory and introduce our people to each other.
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>>5011727
>There isnt a war to justify it!
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>>5011701
>Daiyu is soon to give birth to triplets, Honor your brotherhood with Jinhai, and make certain you are present to greet his children when they arrive into this world and life
>Return to nothing to reflect upon all that has been achieved in the name of Prosperity and to celebrate your father Wenyan's birthday
Our boys have the last of the beasts handled.
Besides, we should get our fun in now before we actually come toe-to-toe with the Vishnu. God knows how bloody that war is gonna be.
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>>5011701
>>Personally Meet with the new Lords of the Shuni Provinces as the Grand architect of Long Jia, and extend the Giant's road into the region while beginning to map out the region and plan its development
>Return to nothing to reflect upon all that has been achieved in the name of Prosperity and to celebrate your father Wenyan's birthday
>Daiyu is soon to give birth to triplets, Honor your brotherhood with Jinhai, and make certain you are present to greet his children when they arrive into this world and life
>Learn about the lands of Bask and the recent events that have transpired there
>take up a hobby in cooking
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>>5011701
>Personally Meet with the new Lords of the Shuni Provinces as the Grand architect of Long Jia, and extend the Giant's road into the region while beginning to map out the region and plan its development
>Return to nothing to reflect upon all that has been achieved in the name of Prosperity and to celebrate your father Wenyan's birthday
>Daiyu is soon to give birth to triplets, Honor your brotherhood with Jinhai, and make certain you are present to greet his children when they arrive into this world and life
>Write in
>Learn about the lands of Bask and the recent events that have transpired there, by inviting Qiqiang and his disciple to celebrate the children of Daiyu and Jinhai. Later when the feast ends, we will read reports about Nintya activities alongside Jinhai and our council.

We can stay here for a while, then depart to Long Jia. Initial efforts of reconstruction and the bases for diplomatic relations needs to be established. In regard to those beasts, perhaps we could ask if some can be captured for study by the hunting party. For understand what they are, there is no need of slaughter if they aren t noxious. Many dangerous animals are after all, completely natural and needed in nature. Such as the incredibly rare Celestial Dragons or the almost equally rare Kirins, if this Swallowers of Sin are naturally resistant to sorcery they might be even more useful than just for the sake of the balance of their biomes. And if they can be domesticated like the Kirin, they could be used as mounts too.
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>>5011800
>>5011798
I'm pretty sure we demolished the palace with the city, why would Lieren leave it be when it was undoubtedly far more corrupted and dangerous then the city itself.
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>>5011701
>Personally Meet with the new Lords of the Shuni Provinces as the Grand architect of Long Jia, and extend the Giant's road into the region while beginning to map out the region and plan its development
If they are willing to be subordinates to Long-Jia, there is only one thing left for us to do... Deliver PROSPERITY.
>Join the hunting party for the rumored serpentine beasts, the "Swallowers of sin", that even the wizards of the Shuni feared
I don't know who would hunt these if we don't, and I'm sure our brothers would do just fine, but I'd rather not risk it. Plus hey maybe we find cool loot.
>Return to nothing to reflect upon all that has been achieved in the name of Prosperity and to celebrate your father Wenyan's birthday
Can't miss that.
>Daiyu is soon to give birth to triplets, Honor your brotherhood with Jinhai, and make certain you are present to greet his children when they arrive into this world and life
Can't miss that either.

Seems the Bask are indeed Nurglites, wonderful. It seems like their hands are too full dealing with a rebellion to do anything for now, so I imagine the Vishnu will come first.
I hope a salty Tzeentch doesn't mess with the three heirs, that could get very ugly.
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>write in
Regardless of if we make it to the birth of the children we must create a warded place for them to enter this world that way none may meddle. Three children is odd and dangerous we must ensure this works out for the sake of all. A mother or father sick with grief may well make mistakes...only human after all. Given our mark we ourselves are a danger to them so we must ward the fuck up of everyone.
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>>5011701
>Personally Meet with the new Lords of the Shuni Provinces as the Grand architect of Long Jia, and extend the Giant's road into the region while beginning to map out the region and plan its development

>Join the hunting party for the rumored serpentine beasts, the "Swallowers of sin", that even the wizards of the Shuni feared
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>>5011952
The palace was built on top of the place Kanzeon sister landed, or was made witg their materials.
It's a vote to explore more and find out ezxctly what happened.
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>>5011745
Supporting ,lets look for the sister in law :-)
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>>5011745
Also support
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>>5012045
I mean that's a fair point.
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>>5011745
+1
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>>5011701
>>Return to nothing to reflect upon all that has been achieved in the name of Prosperity and to celebrate your father Wenyan's birthday
>>Daiyu is soon to give birth to triplets, Honor your brotherhood with Jinhai, and make certain you are present to greet his children when they arrive into this world and life
we can take a min off
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>>5011745
>Support
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Shouldn't we be worrying about the Vishnu army more?
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>>5012484
Yes because they will be on us before we know it
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>>5011701
>Write in
Make a plan of action for the Vishu uprising. Our brothers are more than capable of handling the remaining threats in these lands, and some of the follower of fog are already doing something.
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>>5012484
Not really.

He's a champion of Khorne and backed by the corrupted sister of Kanzeon, so he's a big deal.
But our dad has a birthday and our brother's having triplets, gotta have our priorities in order.

And no half rate worshipper of a vile heaven is going to come before family time.
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>>5012487
Unless they have teleporting tech, we would have time to mobilize when they start marching towards Long-Jia, even with their airplanes.
The guys guarding the reinforces Visnhu border are going to be pretty fucked though.
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>>5012492
But what about all the people he's killing? Shouldn't saving lives be a higher priority? You know, worshippers gaining strength through bloodshed and what have you?
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>>5012519
Lieren has said that he isn't going to bother with Nitya until he's the sole king of the Vishnu. We know, we've deemed it an acceptable sacrifice, we have used/will continue to use the time to prepare, but we are taking a break to eat cake and hold our godchildren. If you want to be productive while we do that, write a 5 page essay on how neat Mad Max-themed Khan and Tocharian/Yuezhi/Bactrian/Wusun/Manchu Bannerman Fulgrim would've both been and why Cegorach is a bitch for denying us them (and why he isn't for saving us from rape!Khan). On my desk by noon Saturday.
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>>5012519
You're never going to save everyone, and if you ignore your fifal duty as a son or your brotherly and guardianship duties as brother and godfather of his children just to start another war to wage, you are never going to stop.

There's always some other evil to slay, some other injustice to right and nothing will ever be good enough. And as the years and decades roll by, you will look back and see a trail of neglected and scorned individuals who you have sacrificed in the name of "The greater good".
Lieren's core is love of all man kind, so taking a few weeks to enjoy the love he holds for his family before going to yet another war against the darkest stygian depths of the warps worshippers is a very high priority indeed.
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>>5012546
well said
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>>5012546
that was the same trap Perturabo fell in I'll start rebuilding after this war. then by the end of the crusade, all that he had left was a trail of ruin.
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>>5011745
+1
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>>5012542
When do lieren swear not to interfere with the vishnu and let the khorn follower take control before we do anything
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>>5012696
When we talked with the usurped vishnu leader we just said we weren't going in immediately without preparing ourselves since we didn't know what tech he already gained from our stepsister, and we chose the tzinch follower since we where shure he wouldn't wait while we fought with the khorn follower and stab us in the back, or attack our land while we where away
With him delt with we can go take on the khorn follower without worrying, course not without a breather for ourselves and allies after what we just went through
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>>5012696
>>5012700
It was last thread, when we voted to go after Kamal and ally with tge Bask, Lieren told Jinhai he would only fight Nytiah when he was the only king of the Vishnu.
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Calling the vote now.

Return to nothing to reflect upon all that has been achieved in the name of Prosperity and to celebrate your father Wenyan's birthday:11

Daiyu is soon to give birth to triplets, Honor your brotherhood with Jinhai, and make certain you are present to greet his children when they arrive into this world and life:10

Personally Meet with the new Lords of the Shuni Provinces as the Grand architect of Long Jia, and extend the Giant's road into the region while beginning to map out the region and plan its development:11

Join the hunting party for the rumored serpentine beasts, the "Swallowers of sin", that even the wizards of the Shuni feared:4

Bring back and bury our lost brother. We would probably find a secluded area where only the annointed brothers of the panther will be laid to rest or ritually fed to the local panthers that he might live on ever more in the fog.: 1

Learn about the lands of Bask and the recent events that have transpired there: 5
-by inviting Qiqiang and his disciple to celebrate the children of Daiyu and Jinhai. Later when the feast ends, we will read reports about Nintya activities alongside Jinhai and our council.: 1

Descend into the depths of Kamal Kanan's foul palace in order to search for your beloved's sister.: 7

Contact Qiqiang and his disciple.: 1

take up a hobby in cooking: 1

Ward the imperial palace: 1

Make a plan of action for the Vishu uprising: 1

Total votes:23

So, Lieren will return to nothing to celebrate and honor his father's birthday, reflect upon what has been achieved and then fulfill his duties as the head of the ministry of develepmont and chief architect by extending the giant's road into the Shuni provinces and working with their new lords to plan its future develepmont

Writing now
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>>5012820
You forgot the birth of our brothers babies
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>>5012829
No I didn't.

10 votes is one less than or half of 20, 21, and 22

23 total votes is one more than that. This has always been the rule of what votes make it into the update.
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>>5012832
Fuck, bros we messed up
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The cooling autumn winds race down to greet you as you sit upon the highest point of the cliff formed by your cataclysmic arrival to Shangrala. Winter is fast approaching, yet it would be impossible to tell from the activity around the thriving city of nothing. It's population has expanded rapidly, almost beyond possibility. The families you've known all your life have grown and flourished, and besides their homes new settlers join the natives in the most prosperous city ever built upon Shangrala's soil. The term Utopia could be poetically applied to Nothing, despite being a near unreachable goal. Merchants and Pilgrims have made it one of the most key locations along the path of the Giant's road and within Long Jia itself. Its status as the birth place of the great and wise Lieren, has also made it the destination for scholars of all creeds seeking to settle down and spread their roots.

Guozhi sits besides you, smoking a roll of nerve calming and mind clear herbs wrapped in thin paper, chewing on the end in a manner that amuses Kanzeon for some reason. He had just told you of a hidden agenda he pursued with what little leisurely time he has allowed himself. A benevolent scheme to expand the wanderers in the fog's membership and bring those psykers still unaligned with it under its protection. Apparently, he had gotten the idea from the "Strange spirit" who had gifted him the strange charms carven of bone that was never living. Above the deeps chasm that once held the gestation pod that you "hatched" out of, now sat a small "Beacon" of star metal, donated by Kanzeon's tireless foundries to draw in those blessed and cursed with psionic capabilities into its depths, where the old monk would then guide them via astral projection to the sanctuary of the Wanderers in the fog.

An ingenious plan that pleases you greatly. Smiling, you toss a stone into the darkness below your hanging feet, and turn your gaze to the the fields filled with herds of oxen, swine, cliffjumpers, and even a flock of Cui Warmongers, lead by your personal mount. According to the gossip of the old mothers of Nothing, a few New Varo men and Vishnu Screamers have purchased a plot of land for the purpose of Domesticating Fog Panthers. A venture you believe to be fool hardy, but have donated a portion of your personal wealth to. If only to keep the fools from being devoured by their would be pets. The city itself, has grown more upwards than out. The woods you once lived within have been carefully preserved.

A portion of the wilds have even been made into a district of the city, after Wenyan grew worried that a sickness or harsh winter may depopulate the native wild life. It stands as a orchard of wildness beneath the shadow of tall, tower like buildings and interwoven complexes, like a mass of interconnected trees made of stone, glass and iron. Nothing has changed greatly in the now near ten years since your arrival to it.
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The exotic flowers you bought your father as a gift, have spread from your family's manner, across the rolling hills and city streets. Man made streams and rivers burble alongside houses and beneath their foundations. A city that has grown alongside the wilderness beyond it. A material incarnation of the Journey's teaching to value the natural world and care for the land.

It is awe inspiring to witness such man made beauty, and just watching the daily life and goin ons of the people of your home is soothing, therapeutic and reenergizing. Why, staring down across the fields, beneath the shadow of tree like spires, is almost enough to inspire you to pen a poem. However, artistic endeavors can wait. You returned home with a purpose greater than simply basking in its prosperity and enjoying its continued evolution from a hamlet so unimportant it did not even possess a name.

The date of Wenyan's birthday is fast approaching, and you could not name yourself his son if you missed it. Conspiring with the the elders of the city and various other locales, you have prepared a celebration to show your father the depth of your filial piety and love for him, to honor him not only as your father but your first and greatest teacher in the long journey called life.

Of course, you had to get him away from your shared home for most of the day, and spoke a harmless lie to ensure that he'd be out for most of the day. Knowing his eagerness, sarcastic or otherwise for grandchildren, you told him you intended to propose to Kanzeon soon and bemoaned the fact you could not find a token worthy of presenting to her.

Oh, how deeply did her cheeks flush red when she heard of your cunning scheme, and how she lamented the lie. Of course, you kept the truth hidden from her. You did intend to offer her your hand in marriage, if only to keep people from referring to her as your consort, paramour or lover, which felt insulting even if it was not meant as such. She was so much more beyond you, she was a unique existence, a rare genius, and a gentlehearted saint of a woman. An embodiment of virtue and kindness, even if her tongue was sharp and her sense of pride as strong as her protective, nurturing instinct. Indeed, the traits she possessed that many would name negative, you found charming. After all, they were as key to her character as her motherly love for humanity and her façade of cold rationality.

But that can wait until your long labor has been done, and the prosperity that has been achieved here has spread across all corners of Shangrala. After all, it would in essence be a purely symbolic gesture, after all you and Kanzeon knows of the bond and affection shared between you and admits it freely and openly. What more is required? You love each other, and care for each other. That is enough. Statements and grand shows of affection are pointless when knowledge of one's inner most thoughts and the contents of their heart are shared between between lovers.
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>>5012862

Though, it'd by a shameless lie to claim you did not enjoy watching Kanzeon reaction to the occasional wild and shameless display of the depth and veracity of the love your hold for her.

Smirking, you returned to the present, to laugh at poor old Guozhi expense as Kanzeon lectured him over the dangers of habital smoking. To which the old sage had an incredibly witty reply.

"When one can expect to return from death, its approach inspires no dread, what are the lungs of a vessel soon to be abandoned to the joy of a small indulgence here and there?" Guozhi cackles, breathing smoke between the gaps of his teeth as Kanzeon visibly seethes and grows red around her face as she struggles to come up with a response, after all, despite her protestations of Guozhi's reincarnation being highly improbable and illogical, he has been able to provide evidence so sound to support its truthfulness that she cannot argue against his claims in good faith.

It is amusing watching her squirm and struggle because of that.

"Well I abhor the smell of smoke, so stop it or I'm going to toss you into the bottomless pit we've gathered above" Kanzeon says, with a tone so sickly sweet that it has become poisonous "I doubt you're in much of a hurry to reincarnate, judging from the joy you derive in tutoring and guiding the next generation"

"Kanzeon" you scold, between bursts of laughter and fits sneering cackles

"As expected of mother Kanzeon, as strict as ever" Guozhi laughed offhandedly as he put the the roll of burning paper and herbs out on a nearby stone, before stuffing it in a sack around his neck "I see even time itself was unable to change your heart"

Kanzeon narrows her eyes, and you can hear her in the back of your mind running through every memory she has to try and find a connection to Guozhi and her long dead crew. Hope mingles with offense in her heart.

You smile and sigh. Preparations for the party should be completed within the hour, but that's no reason to not enjoy the sunset with two of your dearest loved ones.
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Wenyan snorted, smacking his impudent second son as near to his head as he could with his favorite walking stick. He was being especially cheeky and bold today, teasing him. It was a father's duty to embarrass his children, the reserve was not try.

"If you were any younger I'd pull your tongue for that remark, Lieren" Wenyan warned, wagging his stick threatenly in the air as his giant son's laughter carried to the heavens and whatever sat beyond them. His golden eyes narrowed as he bowed apologetically.

"Forgive me, honored father! I could not resist the temptation to jest when I saw you covered in dust and soil, especially after I heard the account of how that came to be" Lieren cackled, his wrought iron colored hair falling over his eyes as he fell to his knees to prostrate himself theatrically before Wenyan. He rose as the old farmer turned mayor of one of if not the wealthiest city within Long-Jia rolled his eyes
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Lieren brushed away tears shed because of the humor he found in his poor father's earlier plights and struggle. If he ever saw that old field cat who tripped him into the freshly fertilized flower bed, he'd have it strung up by its neck and paraded through the town for the crime of giving him the scare of his life! He was lucky he had strengthened his bones with the regimen of pills and elixirs the very son who mocked him now had suggested he undergo. The same advice he had offered to every elder in the city years before.

"Forgive me, but the mass of ill fortune you suffered is only amusing because in the end it harmed little more than your pride" His son stated solemnly and guiltily, hiding his arms in the resplendent white robes her wore, eyes still misty with amused tears "I just do not understand how a lame old mouser could have taken a ribbon of expensive silk from a man of your age still as hearty and spry as yourself"

"The little bandit will regret crossing me if we ever meet gazes again" Wenyan snorted angrily, stamping his walking stick on the ground "He's a repeat offender you know, just the other day he stole a fried stick of field mouse from Poor Old Heng and made away with it! And I am certain he is the beast who has been ransacking my chicken coop!"

"To think such an evil natured villain would have emerged from my own hometown" Lieren lamented "Have you asked a vetenarian to have the little miscreant spade? it'd greatly reduce his aggression and ferocity, and might even calm his heart enough to turn him as docile as an old lap dog"

"I would not have condemned even Gao Liwei to life as Eunuch" Wenyan chuckled, in truth he admired the raggedy beast, for despite its great age and scrawny body, it was still as spry and mischievous as a kitten "However, if you'd gift me the delinquent feline's pelt for my birthday, I'd be overjoyed and ever gracious of your valor, my son"

"Ask me to execute the beast after it has killed someone, he can still be reformed" Lieren jested as he placed a hand upon his father's back "I am glad you listened to my advice, however, otherwise the fall you took could have been..."

"Could have been doesn't matter, worrying about the health of a man as old as I am is pointless, though it is a son's duty to be concerned for the health of his father" Wenyan stated flippantly as he neared the walled gardens surrounding their home "Though, in truth, the flowers I fell upon suffered far more than I did"

"I'll have to recompense the gardens owner at a later date" Lieren said offhandedly, as he lifted his head above the towering wall to peer into the grounds of their seemingly ever expanding home. It seemed to Wenyan, a season could not pass without some new renovation being gifted to his estate or a donation arriving that increased his wealth beyond the late and loathsome lord go by another magnitude!
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>>5012864

He suspected Lieren had a part to play in at least half of these gifts, and knew he was the employer of the various servants that now stalked the halls of their home, ceaselessly working to bring him comfort.

Wenyan didn't mind the company, but it was beginning to be a little ridiculous. Just the other day, a cage of half plucked song birds had been delivered to him by one of the feather wearing Vishnu, he told him in a very inelegant manner, they were a gift from Feng's new wife. The terrifying and mannerless young woman named Akanksha. It was a shame Feng's tastes had been ruined by Lieren and the war, he deserved a proper bride. Like Young Luli! But, the passion of youth was an unconquerable beast. He just hoped that Feng would survive the ferocity of his chosen partner.

Wenyan moved to unlock the gate, before remembering it no longer needed a key to open. He huffed, tapping the string of characters into the panel besides the reinforced steel gate as Lieren kept queerly looking over the wall and blinking his eyes in a bizzare manner.

He watched his son for a few moments, before he suddenly turned in his direction and smiled.

"Is something wrong, honored father?" He asked, and Wenyan shook his head, even though something was clearly afoot. Perhaps Lieren had already caged and emasculated that foul tempered old mouser who terrorized Wenyan and his similarly affluent Neighbors as of late "Then, we should make haste and go inside, the autumn air is beginning to chill to the breath of winter, it'd be deferential to your health to remain outside much longer, Father"

Now Wenyan knew Lieren had planned something. The entire city was heated and cooled in a manner similar to the trains and houses. What did it matter if the air was frigid if one could lay on the street and feel as if they were next to an open fire. But he remained silent, and kept his eyes wandering as they walked through the vibrant garden he tended to personally.

It was certainly kind of his son to not hire a gardener, as he was as perceptive of his father's hobbies and little pleasures as he was concerned for his health and well being! He just wished he'd have time away from his responsibilities to join him in pruning and cultivating his flowers. But he knew Lieren had little time to spare. He had duties to fulfill for not only the kingdom, but for every person within it. Wenyan was humbled to be the father of such a great and virtuous man.

He bowed his head as his noble and widely revered son lead him to their houses door, and allowed him to open them himself, doubtlessly understanding that his father did not enjoy being coddled too severly.

A flash of lights and colors stunned Wenyan, as a gong was rang, and numberless petals and ribbons of silk fell from the air. It seemed half the city was gathered in his home's foyer. He knew many of the faces in the crowd,
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>>5012865

but the one that stood out was his son's "Not yet Bride" Kanzeon, who was wearing a traditional dress that resurfaced memories of Wenyan's youth. Flowers hung in her long, flowing black hair, and she stood demurely at the front of the crowd, bowing to greet him as she and the hundreds, maybe even thousands of guests shook the foundations of his house with cacophonic greeting.

"We all wish you good fortune and health in the year to come, beloved and honored Wenyan!" A chorus of countless voice sang, as four of his personal attendants appeared through the parting cloud, carrying a fruit laden platter and a vintage of dragon's spit from the very first production! Pastries sweetened with Jam, Honey and sweet nuts decorated the edges of the platter, and sweet broth of liquor soaked plums, peaches and apricots steamed in the center of the vast plate, with sweet rice buns and cakes arrayed around it.

Lieren grinned proudly, kneeling down besides Wenyan, as his most veteran servant knelt before him and offered him a small chest.

His son motioned with his chin towards it, and with shaking hands and joyful tears in his eyes, Wenyan opened it. And found, sitting within it, a carefully carved jade replicas of his deceased wife and first son, as well as a painting that captured a scene he would remember for all of his life. The day of his own wedding. How lieren had managed to perfectly copy it from his own memories, Wenyan did not know nor care.

He held the three treasures close to his chest, and barely noticed the silken cap and slippers tucked beneath them as tears flowed freely down his cheeks. Lieren placed a supportive hand on his shoulder, keeping his head bowed as Kanzeon elegantly strode to his side and smiled so beautifully and kindly.

"Oooh my son" Wenyan sobbed, as the jade like beauty his son had courted wiped the tears from his eyes "I do not deserve such treasures! they must be watching from the heavens, weeping that they had never met you, to have never known you as I have. Oh, it is like a piece of your mother and brother have returned to me! There is no greater gift I could receive, in heaven or earth! The only thing that could compare to this gift is..."

Wenyan sighed sadly and turned his eyes towards the lights hanging from his ceiling.

"I knew what life your brother had been reborn into, and now lead" He stated solemly before smiling and stepping forward to sample the delicacy and sweets his living son had prepared for him "But, now is not the time to mourn! Thank you all for coming to celebrate this old farmer's birthday!"
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Magnus observed the captive entity he had bound in the warding script Lieren had gleamed from their gestation pods, wrapped in psionically active metals and kept in a cage formed of his own force of will. In the astral sanctuary he had constructed through building a physical container out of the stones of Propsero's old ruins,
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the red giant had created a personal and well guarded study to research the nature of the malevolent spirits who had tormented and tried to kill his brother.

He had the good fortune to find one in the shallows of the great see. A Six armed creature without a facial features of any kind, dressed in a cloak of recorded atrocities and failed schemes. Its possessed a curious adaptation, where beneath its cloth, nothing existed. However, Magnus had studied the nature and energies of the warp all his life. Its intangibility was no obstacle in shackling and imprisoning it.

It babbled of secrets Lieren kept, Lies he had spoke, and schemes he plotted in silence to make Magnus subservient and indebted to them.

Magnus only reply was to begin his research, one layer of the entity's ethereal essence at a time. Coldly, he dissected the spirit for study, ignoring its fearful ramblings and pitiful attempts to deceive him. Then it began to bargain, offering glimpse of his future and faith, prophecies unknowable and mysteries unkept.

Magnus replied by snapping its neck with a spiritual backhand, and continued his research of it in blessed silence. He only kept the contempt he felt for the creature in check, by knowing it was more valuable for study "alive" than it was as a corpse

At least presently.
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"I am grateful for whichever of my sister's is producing all of this fog and mist, to protect me and all of the little humans on this planet from the sun's harsh rays, saving us from the threat of sun burn and skin cancer" Kanzeon sighed, wiping sweat from her bro as the two of you road with the Lord of a newly risen dynasty, and the owner of the scorching plains you now road across.

One Zaki Mahdi, a former artist who had earned quite a reputation in the revolution he took part in, as he had cut a sorcerers head from his shoulders from behind, securing a key victory against the loyalist remnants and unwittingly saved the army of servants and thralls who had assaulted the tyrants desert fortress. Now he owned his master's old fief, and spoke ceaslessly of plans to make it verdant, fertile and beautiful with plant life. So, it came to no surprise he had attached himself to you and acted like he was an old friend.

Jinhai had told him of your dream to revitilize the former Cui region, and now he revered you as something of a mentor and idol.

He didn't even notice Kanzeon speaking in the Long-Jian tongue, he was so consumed in discussing his plans with you and asking what could and could not be achieved in his life time.

The work on extending he Giant's road into the Shuni Land was progressing well, with little obstacles or difficulties halting the spread of its branches or impeding its growth. What had reached a snag, was the planned development of these new provinces.

Superstition, traditions and lingering influences of the old faith had made some of the newly ascended lords difficult to deal with.
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>>5012868

A Oasis spring that could be used to efficiently and easily irrigate the western most provinces of the Shuni lands, was sacred and reserved for the bathing of new brides, and was only allowed to be utilized after the lord who owned it was read a few passages of the journey and assured it would not be entirely depleted or misused. And then, the construction of a water treatment plant south of the spring was required to ensure it remained clean despite its continued use as a site of ritualistic cleansing.

And the local guides and workers refused to enter a particular portion of the plains, as it was cursed. And indeed, they were correct. Some spiteful magician had chained a wicked spirit to the land centuries ago, judging from the surviving records you were able to procure

Another, far more amusing challenge, was getting the people to stop offering sacrifices to power stations and railroads built through their lands. Indeed, it always brought a smile to your face when you informed a local governor that electricity could not be offended and driven to smite the inhabitants of their city if they mistreated the devices powered by it. Thankfully, the Shuni medical knowledge was more advance and less fraught with superstition than your homeland had been, and accepted medical treatments and aid with no resistance.

Though, you still had to find a way to get them to believe that the air conditioning units and personal fans you had gifted to them would not kill them in their sleeps. But as it is said, every journey begins with a single step.

What is the focus of your efforts to bring prosperity to the burgeoning Shuni Provinces, Lieren?

>Spreading electricity, modern technology and running water

>Expediting the construction of the Giant's road and the railways that branch from it.

>The spread of more advance farming techniques and the local production of medicine

>Aiding in the Shuni's adaptation to becoming Long-Jian citizens, and helping settle old grudges between the two cultures.

>Write in

And yes, the spirit Mangus captured, was the same one that just recently ran like a bitch from Lieren
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>>5012869
>Aid the adaptation into long Jia citizens
>Spreading electricity and modern devices.

With these two things'we will be more prepared when the vishnu try something against them.
And god damnit We missed their birthday. Grrr, at the very least we shouldnt miss the first years passing.
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>>5012869
>Spreading electricity, modern technology and running water
>Expediting the construction of the Giant's road and the railways that branch from it.
The Shuni lands sound like they are naturally a poor fit for agriculture at least in the foreseeable future, no real issue with imports however as long as they got infrastructure, the tech should dispel the superstitions when they start to understand it and its foundations.
Hoping Jinhai isn't salty over Lieren not showing, need to be present for the first birthday or something similar in importance to make up for it.
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>>5012869
>Expediting the construction of the Giant's road and the railways that branch from it.

Logistics is everything, the road is the first step towards Prosperity.

>Aiding in the Shuni's adaptation to becoming Long-Jian citizens, and helping settle old grudges between the two cultures.
Mostly the Kang I'm sure, we should bring Luli along on this so she can help tame the lion

>Write in

If it's not too late then witness the birth of your brother's triplets, or if it is too late atleast visit them
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>>5012877
+1
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>>5012869
>>The spread of more advance farming techniques and the local production of medicine
>>Aiding in the Shuni's adaptation to becoming Long-Jian citizens, and helping settle old grudges between the two cultures.
>Write in
Visit the triplets

kek mangus
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>>5012877
>>5012917
Support.
If I knew the triplets was one less than needed to win I would have changed my vote.
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>>5012869
>Expediting the construction of the Giant's road and the railways that branch from it.
>Triplets
>Delegate cultural outreach to LongJia government officials. LongJia can give them tea ceremonies and they'll give baklava and turkish delights to go with it.

Does the Giant's road include constructing railways or is this just a footpath/guard tower thing still?

Mangus is such a champ.
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>>5012877
>support

I want to see the triplets and also I'm shipping trash and wish to take Luli along to see the Kangs
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>>The spread of more advance farming techniques and the local production of medicine
>>Aiding in the Shuni's adaptation to becoming Long-Jian citizens, and helping settle old grudges between the two cultures.
>Write in
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>>5012869
>Spreading electricity, modern technology and running water
>Expediting the construction of the Giant's road and the railways that branch from it.
>Aiding in the Shuni's adaptation to becoming Long-Jian citizens, and helping settle old grudges between the two cultures.
>Write in
Visit the triplets

>Magnus captured a demon of Tzeentch
hahahaha I don't know if I should be proud or worried.
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>Spreading electricity, modern technology and running water
>Expediting the construction of the Giant's road and the railways that branch from it.
>Aiding in the Shuni's adaptation to becoming Long-Jian citizens, and helping settle old grudges between the two cultures.
>Write in
Visit the triplets
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>>5012934
Actually, changing my vote to
>Spreading electricity, modern technology and running water
>Aiding in the Shuni's adaptation to becoming Long-Jian citizens, and helping settle old grudges between the two cultures.
>Visit our nephews
I think water and air-conditioning would be the best for desert dwellers.
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>>5012869
>>Spreading electricity, modern technology and running water
>>Expediting the construction of the Giant's road and the railways that branch from it.
Finding Al-Uzza will have to wait, I guess.
Also, once the Shunni get up and running, I wouldn't mind broaching some change in governance to Jinhai. I would hope he's at least thought about the dangers and risks that come with one man (eventually) ruling an entire world. A council made up of the leaders or representatives of each nation seems much more on-brand for Lieren. Just so long as we can avoid making it like the UN.
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>>5012872
Supporting
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>>5012871
Will add triplets to my vote here.
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>>5012872
>Support
Since we are in the shuni lands if we have any free time we should look for our beloved sister while we are here
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>>5012869
>>Spreading electricity, modern technology and running water
>Expediting the construction of the Giant's road and the railways that branch from it.
Being able to import items and travel to and from the provinces of the Long-Jia kingdom will greatly enhance any potential cultural exchange.
There's gonna be friction between the two cultures no matter what, so I'm content to see if they can try and settle things naturally for the moment.
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>>5013081
I think the idea is less about the overall Long-Jia culture, and more dealing with the Kangz autism.
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>>5013095
I feel like we'd be better off dealing with the Kang directly then.
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>>5013124
They are the Shuni's neighbors, the ones that seem to hold grudges for any reason for a long time, I think there's no reason to specify.
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>>5012869
>>Spreading electricity, modern technology and running water
>Expediting the construction of the Giant's road and the railways that branch from it.
>Aiding in the Shuni's adaptation to becoming Long-Jian citizens, and helping settle old grudges between the two cultures.
Grudges can destroy societies it left alone.

>write in
Visit the Triplets.
Shame on us for not visiting them sooner!
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Calling the vote now.

Aiding in the Shuni's adaptation to becoming Long-Jian citizens, and helping settle old grudges between the two cultures.:10

Delegate cultural outreach to LongJia government officials.: 1

Spreading electricity, modern technology and running water:10

Expediting the construction of the Giant's road and the railways that branch from it.: 12

The spread of more advance farming techniques and the local production of medicine:2

Visit the Capital, and more importantly, Jinhai's three young heirs: 10

Total votes: 16

Alright, So Lieren will divide his efforts between hastening the expansion of the giant's road, its accompanying fortifications and railways, promoting the spread of electricity, modern technology and running water as well as aiding in the Shuni's adaption to becoming Long-Jian citizens, helping to settle generations old grudges

Before going to visit Jinhai, Daiyu and their three children

However, multiple options winning does mean more time will be taken to do them, just a reminder

Anyways, writing now
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>>5013425
So, quick question.
Does the Shuni population have a higher distribution of natural Psykers compared to the Long-Jia population?
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>>5013427
Yes, if only because unlike the other cultures, they did not abhor and fear them. At least that's one reason for the great quantity
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>>5013425
As long as something like Chen's death doesn't happen again because we picked all the options, than it taking longer isn't so bad.
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However, a journey often requires more effort than walking alone. And the road towards prosperity for the Shuni Provinces shall be no different. The foundation of its further development has been at last laid with your meeting with the ever excitable, inquisitive and talkative Zaki Mahdi. Having already met with the lesser queen of these lands, Aiza Younis, and her highest and most influential vassals, among whom such renowned figures and heroes of the Shuni's liberation can be found. Such noble and virtuous souls such as Hanif Nagi, a priest of the old faith who like Tahir Azzi turned away from the path of wickedness and villainy he had walked after receiving a vision he refused to detail to any living soul besides his eldest son, who will in time inherit both the Nagi Province and the reins of its first ruling lineage. Or Abd-El-Kader Amir, a turncoat general who realized his people had a destiny beyond slavery and abuse spurned on by the whims of their blackguard masters, and laid down his arms when met by Feng and both Weis, who now boasted of his possession of the fertility of his lands and wives, which would all but guarantee the continued flourishing of both the Amir family and lands.

Yes, indeed, the lords of these lands were a varied collection of characters, though they were all moral, noble and virtuous at heart. And all of them had a story of fortune and success to pass down to their successors. Such as the apparent karmic wealth found but Lady Raiha Baksh, known among the now freed men as the "Burned lily of the valley", for her selfless choice to remain in a burning citadel to evacuate the women, children and Eunuchs that had been trapped inside where the palace's master had fled and set it ablaze to deny the rebels the satisfaction of his death. The villain then fell directly into a trap set by Bai and Xin, and you do not need to hear the songs they sing to know he had met justly deserved end by their hands. There's are just a portion of the heroic tales and stories of courageous defiance that occurred in the shadow of your march to Kamal Kanan. However, you are here to labor, not to record history.

With the groundwork laid, the provinces mapped out as completely and precisely as possible, and permissions granted to build in locations that are necessary to ensure the prosperity of the lands and the industry that shall be found there within by the owners of the landmarks and locales both sacred and cursed, you can at last begin your work with Kanzeon and the membership of your ministry. A legion of now veteran laborers and artisans travels to the border, accompanied by scholars, architects, mathematicians, geologists , engineers and mechanics of every kind. Shan, Shirong and Lord Cao have already arrived and have began preperations for the three focus of your initial development of the recently incorporated provinces.

Having sent the required missives and edicts concerning this vast endeavor alongside your orders
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>>5013462

You begin the undertaking with boundless vigor and purpose, devoting all of your energy and attention to the duties of your office and the labors required to fulfill them.

Having planned ahead, possessing both every resource required to extend the Giant's road to the furthest reaches of the Shuni Provinces and the maps of the lands themselves, the continued construction of the White Dragon's path should not be in anway delayed or halted by unforeseen obstacles. Indeed, you were careful to avoid building anything near areas where the boundary between worlds was especially week or close to sites still cursed by the taint of witchcraft. However, you have noticed progress begins to slow upon the road's building when you yourself are not present and working alongside the many builders assigned to it.

A loss of morale you theorize is the cause. Indeed, you notice a slight but noticeable increase in efficiency with Kanzeon's presence, both by the comforting aura she exudes and by the scoldings and sharp tongue encouragements she administers when you are otherwise occupied. The advancement of construction techniques and the introduction of machinery and vehicles, also greatly hastens the construction of the road and the railways that follow alongside it and branch away from it. The only obstacle in the way of progress are the gawking crowds that gather to marvel at the wonderous machines that toil through the soil or float elegantly upon the air like flower petals upon water. And more than once you have to go ahead of the caravan, to warn the locals of their arrival and assure them the metal toothed monsters that are eating through the local cliffside are not to be feared, or in one case, that you do not in fact command a legion of butterfly winged dragons which they had mistaken the supply carriers for.

Though the crowds are not always annoyances or obstacles to keep in check, as once their fears and suspicions are done away with, many of them volunteer to assist in what little physical labor is still required to build the road and the forts and waystations that blossom from it.

To commemorate the first running train in the Shuni provinces, you, Kanzeon, several key officials and minsters and the most veteran of your laborers pose for a photograph and painting with Queen Aiza Younis and her husband King Qadif, before they board the train to travel through their recently gifted domains. It is here, you meet Zaki Mandi again, and after listening to him breathlessly exclaim his astonishment at the sheer rapidity of your work and construction, asks if he can be of any aid for the next stage of development.

He nearly collapses in shock when you, somewhat smugly, state the second stage of the provincial prosperity plan had began alongside the first. He doesn't dare to accuse you of lying, but you show him evidence in the form of records and written orders all the same.
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>>5013464

The construction of the giants road, made it easier to convince the locals to accept electricity and all the benefits it brings. Every hamlet, settlement, village and city it reached became lit by the same lights that glow beneath the fogs in Long-Jia, and with that hurdle leapt over, the people quickly adapt to the inclusion of more advance technologies and halfway through the first month of your labor, you are delighted to hear a Shuni translation of the Journey being read over the radio, which has become the most popular station besides the firebrand rogue broadcaster who had not only purchased his own personal station and channel but had used it to decry and condemn the old faith with unmatched ferocity.

He'd be a good friend to Yin Lei, judging from his zeal in upholding the Journey's tenants.

And with the introduction of modern technology, as in Long-Jia, travel becomes much safer than before. The giant's road helps, but the trains, aircraft such as Shirong's steel birds, and even the rare personal motorized carriage renders the dangers of the wilds and whatever horrors still lurk within insignificant to the common man.

Much as easy access to clean, running water has done away with the threat of common diseases and infections. Though the Shuni already had a culture that exulted cleanliness and personal hygiene, each house now has at least one shower and bath, if they didn't have one already. Indeed, even the most remote outposts now smell as fragrant as a recently pruned garden, as the Shuni delight in mixing perfumes and other fragrances to their bathwater and soaps.


Though, they, like the Vishnu, wear heavy beards and rarely if ever shave or trim them. Unlike the men of Long-jia or most of those from New Varro. They also seem rather confused by the recent trend of Long-Jian women wearing their hair long and untied, which Kanzeon inspired with her ankle length mane of luminescent black hair.

Which, leads to the final labor of the provinces initial development, and the most arduous. The people's adaptation and acceptance as Long-Jian citizens. The Kang, to your surprise, are the most open and accepting of them. As they held a grudge against the ruling caste and not the common people, as they were not the ones who constantly threatened their lands. Indeed, it seems they have calmed now that they are not the defenders of a border, and have seen their generational enemies cast from their seats of power and executed.

Indeed, Kang Shan, in a show of surprising humility, offered to return the black mace of Kamal Kanan. Thankfully, Cai, who had been entrusted with the duty of ensuring the cursed weapon would not taint the lion's heart, had intercepted the gift and as per your instructions, sealed it away in a manner similar to the festering blade of the keeper of rust. Both hellish tools were now hidden away, in a location only you and the core disciples of the wanders in the fog knew.
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>>5013466

A forgery was sent in its place, and you then had to contend with the grudges held by those with Long-Jia.

This, was easy to accomplish with a little encouragement and subtle manipulations. The exchange of gifts and culture, meetings arranged between lords and other influential figures would help ease and erase the grudges of the past, but what would truly do away with the sense of hatred and contempt that had long afflicted both peoples would be the journey.

The majority of the Long-Jianese had accepted it into their hearts and minds, and it was rare to find individuals who did not practice at least some faucet of its teachings or knew few of its lessons. And the Shuni, are by nature a zealous and fervently religious people and having cast of the shackles of the dark faith that had once consumed their land, they sought other forms of worship. Some, praised their ancestors or nature itself, or even the idea of a heaven. But most, found comfort in the journey and began to mention a "Journeyman" in their daily life, a theoretical "perfect" follower of the Journey's lessons who embodied its teachings and world view almost like an unspoken deity. It was strange, but the Journey kept the more "Orthodox" followers of it from looking down upon them.

All you had to do was observe in these first, treacherous contacts and meetings between two cultures that had long only met as enemies upon the field of battle. But, after Yin Lei and Kang Yongrui shared a meal with the Shuni's queen, and Luli held a broadcast with one of the foremost Shuni Preachers of the Journey, it seemed that the Shuni would find a new home in the Long-Jian empire with ease and comfort.

Indeed, now that the rails were connected, both peoples were traveling and exploring the lands of the new provinces and the homes of their new fellows at an almost excessive rate. Curiosity, wonder, and romantics of both cultures flared as they met as friends and brothers for the first time in millennium. All you had to do, was explain and undo misunderstandings and give a few lectures and speeches of the difference between the cultures and people, and what they could benefit to gain from eachother.

Indeed, the Long-Jian tea ceremonies has become quite popular amongst Shuni Youths and Elders, and according to rumors, the strange sweets and dishes of the shuni have become something of a trend in the noble courts nearer to them. It certainly brings you joy to witness the joining of two cultures who once considered eachother the fiercest of enemies.

Though not as much as hearing that Jinhai and Daiyu were blessed with three children! With the remaining work able to be delegated to your trusted underlings, you make haste to the capital.

But as you board the quickest train to it, you can't help but notice how Kanzeon looks forlornly across the desert dunes and grasslands you leave behind. Searching for any sign of her lost sister, Al-Uzza.
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>>5013468

It brings great sorrow to your heart, to see the expression she wears as she gazes out across the sea of sand. You'll have to search for her and the lost Kuan Im soon, the pain of seeing Kanzeon so saddened is almost unbearable.

What gift do you bring with you to the capital to present to the young heirs, Lieren?

>A collection of toys and babbles, carefully marked with Null Denouncement charms

>Your own adopted children, so they may strike up a friendship with the imperial children early!

>Long lived pets, what child does not delight in animal companionship?

>Warm fur blankets and sweets infants are able to safely eat.

>write in
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>>5013440
You can never tell until the votes are already in. I'd personally rather limit myself to one or two when it comes to actions or events.
>>5013469
>>write in
>A quilt for each child, with one hundred squares apiece. Each square of fabric inscribed with a wish, lesson, or thought. And of course, null denouncement charms. You enlisted help from Jinhai and Daiyu's loved ones as well.
Googled "traditional chinese baby gifts" and 100 Good Wishes Quilts or Bei Jia Bei came up. Thought it was cute. Supposed to be passed down from generation to generation.
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>Your own adopted children, so they may strike up a friendship with the imperial children early!
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>>5013469
>A collection of toys and babbles, carefully marked with Null Denouncement charms

>>5013477
+1 to the quilt idea, sounds nice

>Write in

A necklace for each one, one side depicting a carp with spear in fin, the other side a dragon holding a scroll in its mouth
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>>5013469
>Your own adopted children, so they may strike up a friendship with the imperial children early!
What greater joy could we bestow on them than that of a life-long friend?
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>>5013469
>A collection of toys and babbles, carefully marked with Null Denouncement charms
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>>5013469
>>write in
Young foals of our horse's lineage. As the child ages, so too will the mount, to be a lifelong companion and friend to the future princelings.
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>>5013477
+1 to the quilt idea
also supporting
>>Your own adopted children, so they may strike up a friendship with the imperial children early!
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>>5013477
Supporting blankets that actually can protect from monsters
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>>5013513
Google says that horses generally live for 25-30 years so not exactly lifelong.
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>>5013513
We should probably wait until they're older before we handpick Warmonger foals for em.
These fuckers are big after all.
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>>5013521
Ok that brick shithouse horse is hilarious.
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>>5013530
Surely you don't find anything silly about the personal steed of the Primarch of the second Legion.
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>>5013469
>>5013477
support the quilt.
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>>5013469
>A quilt for each child, with one hundred squares apiece. Each square of fabric inscribed with a wish, lesson, or thought. And of course, null denouncement charms. You enlisted help from Jinhai and Daiyu's loved ones as well.
>A collection of toys and babbles, carefully marked with Null Denouncement charms
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>>5013469
>A collection of toys and babbles, carefully marked with Null Denouncement charms
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>>5013469
>Our own adoptive children.
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>>5013469
I like this >>5013477 idea, I'll support it.
>A collection of toys and babbles, carefully marked with Null Denouncement charms

This update made me feel warm and fuzzy. Nothing like spreading Prosperity.
...That being said we should start to focus on the Vishnu, we probably already gave them more time then we should have. I would start with some sort of spying operation, to know what we are dealing with exactly in terms of military, and devise countermeasures.
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>>5013469
Introduction to our adopted kin
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>>5013469
>>Your own adopted children, so they may strike up a friendship with the imperial children early!

Also supporting >>5013477
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>>5013469
>A collection of toys and babbles, carefully marked with Null Denouncement charms
>Your own adopted children, so they may strike up a friendship with the imperial children early!
I'm actually surprised the Kang were that chill, guess I overestimated their grudges.
Also fuck yeah, the journeyman has been created, in time that should avoid Lieren's complete deification and give humanity an anti-chaos god of order in the future
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>>5013679
Actually, I'm changing the toys and babbles to this write-in
>>5013477
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>>5013469
>A collection of toys and babbles, carefully marked with Null Denouncement charms
>Your own adopted children, so they may strike up a friendship with the imperial children early!
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>>5013679
Guess they only really have issues with the puppet masters rather than the thralls.
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>A collection of toys and babbles, carefully marked with Null Denouncement charms

>Your own adopted children, so they may strike up a friendship with the imperial children early!
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>>5013469
>Your own adopted children, so they may strike up a friendship with the imperial children early!


>>5013477
Support
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>>5013469
>>Your own adopted children, so they may strike up a friendship with the imperial children early!
>A quilt for each child, with one hundred squares apiece. Each square of fabric inscribed with a wish, lesson, or thought. And of course, null denouncement charms. You enlisted help from Jinhai and Daiyu's loved ones as well.
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Who do you guys think would qualify as "The Journeyman"? Besides Lieren of course.
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>>5013911
The Journeyman is supposed to be a perfect, ideal follower of the Journey, so it would most probably be impossible to qualify as him, but I think Jinhai is a solid choice, he has managed to exemplify a lot of the journey, even trying to better himself to stop being a daydreamer while ruling.
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>>5013469
>Your own adopted children, so they may strike up a friendship with the imperial children early!
>>5013477
>Support this too
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>>5013911
Probably Big E when he comes by. We're going to absolutely have some Emperor cults on our hands. It's a good thing the Journey is inherently opposed to Chaos worship though, otherwise the members of our legion recruited from Shunni stock would be a good place for the Word Bearers to start their corruption.
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>>5013985

Man, on that topic, the corrupted Word Bearers are going to HATE us and our Legion because of the Journey's status as Anathema.
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>>5014025
unless Lorgar ends up "converting" to the journey.
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>>5013469
>A collection of toys and babbles, carefully marked with Null Denouncement charms

>A quilt for each child, with one hundred squares apiece. Each square of fabric inscribed with a wish, lesson, or thought. And of course, null denouncement charms. You enlisted help from Jinhai and Daiyu's loved ones as well.
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>>5013469
>A collection of toys and babbles, carefully marked with Null Denouncement charms

>Your own adopted children, so they may strike up a friendship with the imperial children early!

The collection of nulled toys gives the newborns and our furkin something to share and bond over as they grow. not gonna call them furries, nooope
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>>5014118
furkin is way fucking worse
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>>5014164
That's true, it sounds like something like transexual furries would call eachother.
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Just call them our cubs. Cause that's what they are. Cubs.
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>>5014025
>Be me, primarch with a six letter name that starts with "L" and golden eyes
>Develop an organized system of thought and belief during my formative years on my homeworld
>Spread it so that it becomes the dominant way of thinking across the planet
>Experience visions of my true father, happily accept my legion and place in the great crusade
>Spread my way of thinking to my legion, who by some means were already primed for its acceptance
>They, in turn, spread it to those we serve along side and to the worlds we reunite and conquer
>Emperor hears of all this
>"Keep up the good work son! I love you!"
>Be me, Lieren of Nothing
Pic unrelated.
Warhawk is out. Khan dies banishing Morty only for it to be implied that Malcador brings him back later, Erebus kills Erda, proving he isn't as bad as everyone says, and Sigi kills Kharn in a single break in the constant sodomizing BL has been giving the Old Lore. Also Leetu, the prototype marine, likes to draw pictures of his friends.
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>>5014164
>>5014181
Fair point

>>5014194
We will make them bikes
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>>5013477
support the quilts
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>>5014265
Bikes as a means of personal conveyance aren't a bad idea.
I can imagine dirt-bikes would be pretty popular with the New Varro people, sport bikes with the Long-Jia people, and Quads for the Shuni.
As for the Tiger Folk though, I did have a crazy idea. For Tiger Folk military personnel, what if we gave them powered exosuits?
My idea is that the Tiger Folk are already adept at traversing a variety of environments as a result of their physiology, nature, and upbringing.
Their only real limitations are those imposed by said physiology, prodigious as it may be.
If we developed a way to mechanically augment their abilities, they'd be able to move through even the roughest terrain in record time.
The upshot of this is that they'd also be more likely to evade enemy detection as well, given their speed of travel and their relative size.
They'd already make fantastic scouts, guerilla warfare specialists, and survival specialists. Why not lean into that?
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>>5014320
>wont someone think of the children
but for real, the Tiger Folk children are a resource we have that we haven't tapped into. I assume they've been taught the Fog Panther style, but we could teach them s level of hunting that humans aren't as capable of.

just spitballing but we should re-visit the Tiger Kids and find some leaders amongst them.
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>>5014327
We should, yeah.
They're starting to get to that age where they can handle some light stuff.
Even if the majority of our adopted kids decide they don't want to be soldiers, I still think finding the natural leaders among them and building on those talents is going to be very beneficial to them in the long term.
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>>5014194
Childrens is far better. Because we know they are still humans and have explain that too. Calling them cubs is what we don t want people to do, it creates a difference that isn't needed.

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>>5014330
Well the reason is that are still fairly young by years and their population is small. It s not that crazy to not put them under the military right now lol.
But once they are adults, they can if they want. Many of them have show to have an interest in military activities, and since Lieren and his tutors basically keep tabs on all of them, they can direct them in any direction they want. Some military training and weapons use can be introduced in it. In regard to what they are taught in general, they are probably receiving a better education than most, so I wouldn't be surprised by the excellent results they will have.
Of course we should give them good military equipment and weaponry once some of them join, thankfully good equip and weaponry shouldn't be a problem to make with the current development across Long-Jia and Kazeon ship forges.
On what they could do, i would just direct them in the Brotherhood elite core honestly, it fits them, but there are other elite formations they could join (like heavy infantry units) and the army isn't bad either.
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Beside if they enter in the brotherhood, some of them can reach levels of martial prowess and tactical knowledge like Bai, Feng or Jinhai becoming essentially heroes as well (though Jinhai is on another level, since he has mastered the carp fighting style like us).
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>>5014444
Checked.

We should just call them their names.
Cubs, furkin, and other furfag shit seems too gay to be used.
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>>5014221
Those spoilers fill me with a disgust so profound I needed to grab some rum to wash the taste from my mouth.
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>>5014444
Jinhai Is on another level because he invented the style, and has the mindset to keep doing it.
His mind is open and sharp and creative, and very possibly the best mortal man in tthe land
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>>5014498
As far as completely mortal men go, I'm pretty syre Jinhai and the late Cui were the pinnacle as far as Lieren has seen.
Jinhai for his aforementioned mindset and natural talents, Cui for his top tier genetics and harsh upbringing.
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>>5014502
I feel that Jinhai surpasses Cui Fu by dint of his genius not being completely dedicated to warfare.
Cui may surpass Jinhai by a bare margin in personal battle but Jinhai is a step below his abilities while also being able to apply that genius everywhere.
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>>5014536
I'm sure that Cui Fu could have beaten Jinhai by way more than a bare margin in a equal duel, but you are right that Jinhai ability to shine in so many different fields makes him exceptional, even on warfare, specialy since a one-on-one fight where you have equal equipment and can't pull any trickery isn't how battles are waged.
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>>5014543
Fu's style of battle is wide and aggressive, very little in the place of defences.

Jinhai pioneered a style all about dodging and conservation of energy. He is also quick, but so is Fu.
So I do think it would come down to the first to make a mistake or Jinhai outlasting him in a 1 vs 1.
In war, I give the win to Jinhai hands down

Also, we should recommend that Jinhai remain active with his martial arts. Make sure the edge doesnt dull.
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>>5014452
It hurts so much, anon. Though the banter the Khan was dishing out during the fight was top-tier, Malcador being able to bring back the primarchs seemingly on a whim makes me wonder what the Iron Hands did to deserve such hatred and neglect.
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>>5014583
Thing is, we did use the carp style against Fu, but he still survived and managed ro strike us.
Fu would simply overwhelm Jinhai using his strength and endurance. He probably would come out with a shitload of new scars, and the fight would last long, but he would win.

Yeah, we need to keep Jinhai in shape. We should probably add something to the journey about trying to stay physically healthy while at it, it's missing a lesson about that.
You would think that should go without saying, but it's better to be safe than sorry.
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>>5014665
Almost. Almost managed to strike us.

Eh. As we've both said, it'd come down to the first to make a mistake, since trickery and equipment can turn more than a few tides.

Good call on the journey. Make it like aristotle and say "Your body is great man, hone it."
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>>5014689
Something like a health body helps maintain a healthy mind would be good.
It would also help make those martial schools we built on the Kang popular with people who aren't already insterested in fighting.
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>>5014721
Actually, fuck it. Malal said we could vote to add lessons to the journey anytime in a past thread.
>>5013469
>Seeing the benefits to your father's new lifestyle has inspired you to add a new teaching to the journey: To maintain a healthy mind, one must also maintain a healthy body. To expand one's knowledge without exercising the vessel to hold them, is the same mistake as to try to fill a cracked cup.
I tried to make it flowery, but I can't reach Lieren's level of verbose.
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>>5014759
I can support that (though it is unlikely to get enough votes)
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>>5014689
No, he did manage to land a blow. It didn't do anything more than scratch our armor, but he did land a hit.
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>>5014759
I support this
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>>5014759
I'll support it
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>>5014759
Supporting since you went through the effort to try and match Malal's prose
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>>5014759
Supporting

Fat shaming is based and should always be encouraged
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>>5014759
+1

Supporting this as well.
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Calling the vote now. Sorry for the wait.

A quilt for each child, with one hundred squares apiece. Each square of fabric inscribed with a wish, lesson, or thought. And of course, null denouncement charms. You enlisted help from Jinhai and Daiyu's loved ones as well.:14

Your own adopted children, so they may strike up a friendship with the imperial children early!:13

A collection of toys and babbles, carefully marked with Null Denouncement charms:9

Young foals of our horse's lineage. As the child ages, so too will the mount, to be a lifelong companion and friend to the future princelings:1

A necklace for each one, one side depicting a carp with spear in fin, the other side a dragon holding a scroll in its mouth: 1
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Seeing the benefits to your father's new lifestyle has inspired you to add a new teaching to the journey: To maintain a healthy mind, one must also maintain a healthy body. To expand one's knowledge without exercising the vessel to hold them, is the same mistake as to try to fill a cracked cup.:7

Total votes:27

So the quilts inscribed with wishes, lessons, thoughts and null denouncement charms that Jinhai and Daiyu's other loved ones have helped make and the introduction of your own 285 adopted children in the hopes a few of them can strike up a life long friendship with the imperial flock are the gifts lieren will bring.

Writing now.


>>5014759
Love how you wrote that, remember you can always vote for adding that to the journey again
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>>5015326
>the introduction of your own 285 adopted children
I guess it was obvious, but I still hadn't realized we were bringing ALL of our kids.
This is gonna be fun.
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>>5014759
>>5015326
thats true anon, i wrote
> "pain and suffering is as much a part of the Journey as jubilation. it should not be rejected but embraced and channeled into something positive."
I got told it was heretical, but it ended up as an option a thread later, and is now a part of the journeys tenants.
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>>5015335
It's funny, seeing write-ins nearly not make it in or get naysaid and then having them become either really important or great spectacle. Two that come to mind are the write-in to scout the tiger people camp and the one to throw a psychic rock through Nurgle's study window and flirt with his wife in front of him.
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>>5015358
Don't forget the write-in to put a name to the then unknown 5th king of Hell.
That was certainly a spectacle.
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>>5015360
Reminds me we can do that three more times. Probably should too. After we get some of the more pressing things off the table (finding Al-Uzza and Kuan Im, make sure any chaos spawn or old-regime Shunni loyalists are dead, FIND THE FUCKING RUYI JINGU BANG ALREADY), I kind of want to just vote to wander out into the desert away from any potential collateral damage and find out who exactly are holding the other three heavenly courts.
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>>5015366
I still want to hold a (non-deadly) Mortal Kombat tournament. I feel like if we know enough styles of fighting we'll be able to blend them together seamlessly into a singular style.
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>>5015375
I think we can do that after the lands are unified. We could use it as a means to encourage martial arts proficiency even in a time of peace, as well as being another method of cross pollinating warrior cultures from across the globe.
Now, whether or not Lieren would be allowed to compete is another thing entirely.
Maybe the grand prize could be an exhibition match against Lieren instead, on top of the accolades and tangible rewards for winning the tournament.
Also, it'd probably be a great place to scout out students who could potentially master the Night Crane style.
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>>5015389
no way Lieren competes, we're the judge. Jinhai should probably compete considering he's the best practitioner of the Carp style (he invented it, after all)
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>>5015398
It would be kinda novel to see Jinhai let loose again.
I'm pretty sure the general population is unaware of Jinhai's prowess as a martial artist, so it'd be fun to see people massively underestimate him.
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The Lakeside capital yet unnamed had spread and grown since you last travled to Jinhai and Daiyu's palace, the sanctuary of dragons and carps alike. The bridge of flexible glass, which runs from the imperial isle to the shores of the Yin's ancestral home and the burgeoning new capital, has remained spotless and unmarred by scratches or filth. Kanzeon runs her hand along the mist covered surface, as fishing boats and merchants peddling their wares ply the waters below. A large flock of tiger children follow behind and around you, all amazed by the sights and sounds around them. Avinash, Ananya, and Sandip have been entrusted with keeping the gifts you and Kanzeon had made for Jinhai's three children, whose names you already know. For before the excited reports announcing their birth across the lands, and the celebrations thrown in their honor and the ceremony recorded and broadcast of their naming, Jinhai had excitedly radioed you personally, feverish and frantic with relief and a joy only a father could know.

Two young princesses and one prince, the first born named Wenling, Mild jade, for the composed and serene silence she upheld as she entered the world and the days that followed. Indeed, the infants quiet demeanor and solemn nature was a source of great worry amongst the ever rung and station of society, from the imperial court, to its armies, to the ministers, officials, scholars that worked beneath it, to the lesser nobility and the common masses. All of Long-Jia waited on baited breath, and if it were not for Jinhai keeping you updated on the matter, you'd have left the Shuni Provinces to take Little Wenling to Kanzeon for treatment. However, Jinhai's eye for the most miniscule of detail saved you from worry, as his explanations allowed both you and Kanzeon to infer that nothing was afflicting the imperial babe, she was just watching the world around her in curious silence. Rather, she had the good fortune of inheriting her father's shrewdly observant mind, and when her infantile mind realize her parents were fretting over her silence, joined her younger siblings in their cries.

The second born, was named Liling, White Jasmine, for conflicting reasons. Some men claim it was because a petal of the flower landed upon her brow when she had been placed within her exhausted mother's eyes. A poet you met on the road, theorized it was to seperate the new imperial family from the old Lineage of the Gao, A white flower born from black jade. When you asked Daiyu, when Jinhai managed to rouse her from her stupor of exhaustion a few days after the birth, she revealed it was for a far simpler reason. She had been anointed with jasmine perfume during her labor, and Liling had grown found of the scent and flavor while she suckled on her breast, and now the rambunctious and fiery natured babe would not quiet or calm for anything besides sugared jasmine petals or the aroma of the flower itself.
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And from what you had heard, now that she had learned how to grasp and pull at things roughly, would tug on her nanny's hair until she was given such a treat or allowed to bask in the smell she now associated with her mother. Doubtlessly she had inherited her boldness from her mother.

The outnumbered prince, was named Bojing, gentle waves. You did not know why the youngest child and sole son had been named what he had, but you had a few theories. Perhaps, it was because he was he cried the most of the three, or because he seemed to do every little movement he took appeared gentle or cautious, according to his father. Not that he was able to do much, but it was a theory you held. Maybe his parents had come up with his name while resting on the shore of their estate. Or, perhaps it was meant to be poetic.

Gentle waves upon the golden sea, which was the meaning of his father's name. Perhaps your interest in the meaning behind the young prince's name rose from the fact he was the only of the three triplets whose burbling voice had graced your ears. As he was often held in either his mother's or father's arms as they spoke with you over the radio. Perhaps, as you knew him then slightly more than his sisters, you were subconsciously more aware and thus concerned of him.

"it's the mystery, you're a scholar at heart, remember Lieren?" Kanzeon interrupts your reflection. She wears a joyful, yet serene smile upon her unpainted lips, and she is covered in the youngest of your adopted children, who have taken to scaling her back and hanging on her arms in place of a tree. It has become something of a game among them to see how long they can cling to her before rousing her temper or making her annoyed, or similarly being plucked from their perch to be wrapped in a loving, smothering embrace in her arms.

"Your hunter's mind cannot resist giving chase when a curiosity passes through its thoughts, almost as if it were programmed to act in such a way' She continues on, as Avinash tilts his ears closer to her, tapping one of his lower hands upon the glass as Ananya scolds Sandip for, as far as you can tell from her words, trying to leap from the bridge to dive for the trout beneath his feet.

It wasn't surprising the delinquent would have been tempted to act so foolishly he had been, as many of your adopted wards have, eyeing the fish in lake hungrily. Even though you all shared a hearty meal in one of the first restaurants opened in the new capital. Chilled noodles served in a spicy, vegetable broth garnished with ginger slices, fried garlic, dried peppers, Ginseng and lotus root. . It was also accompanied by the diner's choice of meats, fried pork, braised fowl, slow roasted cliff jumper, ground beef and their specialty, Panther offal and tongue spiced with funerary oils and numbing peppers. Kanzeon paled a little when most of your children ordered the specialty and devoured it with gusto.
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>>5015434

Apparently she had forgotten their kind had once been cannabalistic, and their parents had hunted and devoured men. It was not strange for them to have no scruples in eating meat from their other half, then.

And despite that those noodles were only the first of three courses, followed by fried fish and lemon sauce basted eels served alongside buns filled with peach stewed pork and fermented plum sauce stir fried beef and squash skewers, and a platter of honey sweetened orange and lemon peels ground into ground walnut cakes further sweetened with white jasmine; a dish the owner hoped would become a favorite of the second princess when she matured, the majority of the children were still peckish! It was astounding!

"They certainly are energetic" Kanzeon said, apropos of nothing, as she watched a gaggle of your students peer over the railing of the bridge to wave at a peddler of jewlery and charms. You smiled warmly, as she happily watched them at their play, until one of the "Mountaineers" scaling her back, pulled harshly on her hair

The rest of the children froze as she yet out a sharp yelp, and glowered at the child as she reached back and retrieved him from her back, still holding a few strands of her black

"She's gonna throw Vipin into the lake!"
"Sounds fun! Me next auntie Kanzeon! Me next!"
"You hurt her! You deserve to be thrown in the water"
"Catch a few fish when you're down there!"
"Stop pulling my tail!"
"Oooh! She's angry! Uncle Lieren must be scared!"
"Nothing can scare uncle!"
"Grandfather turtle said even the most hardened of warriors fear their wives!"
"Yeeee, he's puffed up! Vipin would sooner float than sink now, Har!"
"Uncle Lieren! Can you buy me this necklace?"
"Can we get a boat uncle?"
"I wanna see the king's babies!"

Ananya gnashed her gilded fangs together and snarled, and silenced the over excited crowd as Kanzeon's expression softened and she calmed herself, still unused to the sensation of sudden physical pain.

"You're climbing privledge have been revoked, Vipin" She pouted, before hugging him close to his chest, a fate the young lad feared more than being hurled into the cold waters below.

"Auntie hugs too tight" he wailed mornfully as his peers began to heckle and jeer at him, while others began throwing stones and petals into the lake.

"Haha, serves you right Vipin!"
"Can I still be thrown in the lake, auntie?"
"Can I have your training spear if you die, vipin?
"Wooohaa! A huge fish just swam by! Uncle! Uncle! What kind of fish was it"
"A dragon? I heard Uncle Jinhai married one!"
"No, he married the beautiful jade lady"
"Auntie Luli"
"No! the other one! the one with the scary eyes!"

"We won't be hanged if we're loud right?" Sandip asked fearfully , tugging on your shape changing ropes, which had now dyed themselves various hues of the autumn forest

"That is outrageous, who told you" You say, as you spot the culprit, the usually serious and dependable Ananya,
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>>5015435

Chuckling besides Avinash, whose crossed his lower arms and cast his gaze skyward

"Ananya!" You scold, her fears folding, and her tail arching as you turned a disapproving frown towards her "You know Sandip frightens easily, and believes everything you hear"

She mumbled an apology, eyes turned away from you and towards her feet.

"Raise your voice, and direct your apology to the one who it is directed to, do not wilt like a flower" You say, lowering your tone as the little girl raised her head, and stated her apology to the confused Sandip, who had been unaware of her deception.

"Do they have big rocks at the palace?" he blithely asks, as Ananya sulks by Kanzeon's side, who has been surrounded by opportunistic children who want to be tossed into the lake or asking if they can still climb on her.
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You poured Jinhai a cup full of roasted oolong tea, steeped from leaves older than either of you. He has dark bags under his eyes, and has lost a little weight from the stress of raising and caring for not only three children but an entire realm. Thankfully, he has been keeping up his exercises when he has time and one of his fellow peers from amongst your faithful, disbanded personal retinue or the brothers of the panther visits to give him a proper and challenging spar. Lady Qian Xia, sits between the two of you, next to the now frightful appearing Kanzeon, who has been studying her since she arrived with glaring eyes and an cold mien. She's just trying to discern if she can be trusted, but, it must be frightful to be looked down upon by a giantess with ice in her emerald eyes.

But this has proven that, amongst women, only Daiyu, Dandan and Kanzeon can cow the scarlet spider herself into meek silence.

"Thank you brother, for showing my work could always be more difficult" He chuckled, as he watched Rong struggle to wrestle with eight of the tiger children, some of the heaviest set amongst them

"Don't die to cubs, after surviving hell itself three times over!" Zian mocked as his one eyed compatriot struggled to knock the little wrestler sitting on his chest. You'd have to reprimand the staff of Chendao Academy's kitchen, it was clear one of them were playing favorites and serving extra desserts

"This is not where I shall die!" Rong roared, as red around the face as Red face Wei, who you had learned was indeed Daiyu's relatives and one of numerous bastards her uncle sired before dying "mysteriously", Which was entirely uprising

"Uncle one eye makes funny noises" The boy on his chest cackled, kicking his feet merrily as another playfully bit the imperial guards arm.

Kanzeon shook her head and laughed, caused poor Qian Xia to nearly leap from her skin

"I cannot imagine raising nearly three hundred children, truly, it is a giant's task alone" Jinhai laughed, before glancing to Kanzeon and shrugging "Or a labor for two"
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>>5015437
"I have dozens of helping hands" You admit, bowing your head "Though I would not be opposed to raising them with Kanzeon alone, had I leisure to do so. Even a giant must bow his head to his responsibilities, and the duties he has taken on"

"As much as it breaks his heart to be away from them" Kanzeon says with a solemn nod, causing Jinhai to lift his head and smirk

"As expected of Lieren" He said, taking a sip of his dark, fragrant tea. He set the cup down and nodded happily, sucking the lingering flavor from his tongue

You rolled your own around your mouth, trying to place the old tea's flavor for a moment before setting your own cup down, frowning as you did.

"Are you certain you do wish to be present to see your children receive their gifts" You subtly prod, leaning across the small table between the two of you, having been anticipating Jinhai's reaction in the weeks since you decided upon the gift you'd present to the imperial triplets.

"No need to, I already know everything about it" He said, causing you to turn to Qian Xia, who wilts further under your gaze "It is a stupendously generous gift, Elder brother, I should have known you'd see fit to bless my house with not one heirloom but three. Three hundred good wishes, given to my heirs! How thoughtful and quaint. Though, you did not have to go so far, you know I would never hold your absence at their births against you, remember..."

"and I thought vows of silence and trust would have kept that secret hidden" You say, condemningly towards the woman trying to shrink away from the two giant's looking down at her "But I suppose there's a spider listening upon every wall"

"the cry goes, for the people, kingdom, and king" Jinhai laughs, grinning widely as he curls his now hanging mustache "The king comes last! or, I suppose it'd be emperor now that the Shuni have all but forced their way into our realm. I was expecting that less than any gift"

Qian Xia remains silent, all too aware of how easily you could topple her standing if were a more spiteful man. After all, only you and Guozhi know her "brother" is actually her son, and that is a scandal that would ruin the woman once held as the kingdom's most brilliant jade like beauty
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Avinash ran his hands gingerly over the script hidden admits the lessons, teachings and wishes uncle Lieren, Auntie Kanzeon, and dozens of strangers who talked like they were close with his uncle, had woven into a colorful quilt. He recognized them, from the academy and his own sketches he took of them before. He smiled proudly, Uncle was protecting these babies in their cribs, from sorcerers and witches alike. No wonder he was so excited to give them these quilts, he was celebrating his victory against that cowardly breed once again! How proud he was to be his student and ward.

Avinash turned away from the one boy of the three, a babe with fiery red hair and piercing eyes, to look towards Ananya
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>>5015438

who looked different to his eyes recently, strangely alluring like cool water, and Sandip, who had gathered around the two girls and Auntie Luli and the other aunts who worked to care for the babes.

Avinash wondered why Bojing was the only one with crimson hair like his mother, it was peculiar. He tilted his head, tapping a line of characters he was certain had just shimmered golden, and then leaped back when the prince began to wail. He held his hands in the air, terrified he had been the cause of his tears.

Unaware that a spectral hand had just recoiled from the nursery, its fingers burned and singed
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What do you do now, Lieren

>Meet the triplets, and look into their hearts, so you may plan the gifts for their future birthdays

>Confide with Jinhai, the truth you know of spirits and their world they live in. So the kingdom may be protected from the same fate that befell its predecessors

>Endeavor to keep all the tiger children behaved in the palace and keep them out of trouble With Kanzeon. Truly one of your most daunting challenges yet!

>Meet with Luli and discuss philosophy and faith while you're here with Kanzeon. Also ask if the rumors of an "Steel Lion courting humble Lotus flower" hold any truth

> write in
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>>5015439
>Meet the triplets, and look into their hearts, so you may plan the gifts for their future birthdays
>Confide with Jinhai, the truth you know of spirits and their world they live in. So the kingdom may be protected from the same fate that befell its predecessors
We need to ward off the entire planet at some point and make sure that it only affects demons. If I'm not wrong, a few threads ago folks were discussing about makeing Shangrala a safe heaven for reincarnation.
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>>5015439
>Confide with Jinhai, the truth you know of spirits and their world they live in. So the kingdom may be protected from the same fate that befell its predecessors
>Begin planning a return to your formal duties. Ask of Jinhai and his officials the most pressing needs of the Long-Jia Empire.
Now's a good time to start laying the foundation for further prosperity and the encroaching clash with the Vishnu.
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>>5015439
>>Meet with Luli and discuss philosophy and faith while you're here with Kanzeon. Also ask if the rumors of an "Steel Lion courting humble Lotus flower" hold any truth
>>Meet the triplets, and look into their hearts, so you may plan the gifts for their future birthdays
and most importantly
>>Confide with Jinhai, the truth you know of spirits and their world they live in. So the kingdom may be protected from the same fate that befell its predecessors
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>>5015439
>Meet the triplets, and look into their hearts, so you may plan the gifts for their future birthdays
>Confide with Jinhai, the truth you know of spirits and their world they live in. So the kingdom may be protected from the same fate that befell its predecessors
I hate to dump even more shit on Jinhai, but him and his children especially are in the crossfire of any daemon who wants to subvert Long Jia from the inside. It's best if he knows.
Tell him that he can go to the Wanderers in the Fog for help with spiritual matters as well, not just us.
Getting a good look at the triplets is also a good idea, just to be safe.

>Unaware that a spectral hand had just recoiled from the nursery, its fingers burned and singed
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>5015439
>Meet the triplets
Don't look at them too long. It hurts.

>Seek Luli
>Confide in Jinhai

I mean, we know Kang likes her. And she is able to give a tongue lashing like no other.
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>>5015406
I have no doubt jinhai would win the weapons part of the tournament, but on pure martial prowess I'd have to give that to Feng, he kicked the collective asses of an entire vishnu tribe and claimed their chief as his wife
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>>5015439
>Meet the triplets, and look into their hearts, so you may plan the gifts for their future birthdays
>Confide with Jinhai, the truth you know of spirits and their world they live in. So the kingdom may be protected from the same fate that befell its predecessors
I'm going to try again, just in case it was because not enough anons had seen it last time.
>Seeing the benefits to your father's new lifestyle has inspired you to add a new teaching to the journey: To maintain a healthy mind, one must also maintain a healthy body. To expand one's knowledge without exercising the vessel to hold them, is the same mistake as to try to fill a cracked cup.
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>>5015439
>>Meet with Luli and discuss philosophy and faith while you're here with Kanzeon. Also ask if the rumors of an "Steel Lion courting humble Lotus flower" hold any truth
>>Meet the triplets, and look into their hearts, so you may plan the gifts for their future birthdays
>>Confide with Jinhai, the truth you know of spirits and their world they live in. So the kingdom may be protected from the same fate that befell its predecessors

Perhaps we can send a few monks at the imperial court and in other noble houses.

also add this to the Journey
>Seeing the benefits to your father's new lifestyle has inspired you to add a new teaching to the journey: To maintain a healthy mind, one must also maintain a healthy body. To expand one's knowledge without exercising the vessel to hold them, is the same mistake as to try to fill a cracked cup.
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>Meet the triplets, and look into their hearts, so you may plan the gifts for their future birthdays
>Confide with Jinhai, the truth you know of spirits and their world they live in. So the kingdom may be protected from the same fate that befell its predecessors

>Seeing the benefits to your father's new lifestyle has inspired you to add a new teaching to the journey: To maintain a healthy mind, one must also maintain a healthy body. To expand one's knowledge without exercising the vessel to hold them, is the same mistake as to try to fill a cracked cup.
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>>5015542
Adding
>Meet with Luli and discuss philosophy and faith while you're here with Kanzeon. Also ask if the rumors of an "Steel Lion courting humble Lotus flower" hold any truth
Because I'm curious, and I'm sure that tge looking upon the hearts will be quick.
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>>5015439
>> write in
Look for the strange spirit Guozhi spoke of earlier.
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>>5015439
>Meet the triplets, and look into their hearts, so you may plan the gifts for their future birthdays

>Confide with Jinhai, the truth you know of spirits and their world they live in. So the kingdom may be protected from the same fate that befell its predecessors

Meeting the children and protecting them is always a priority, and if we can't trust jinhai with this knowledge than really, who can we trust

>Meet with Luli and discuss philosophy and faith while you're here with Kanzeon. Also ask if the rumors of an "Steel Lion courting humble Lotus flower" hold any truth

I am shipping trash, honestly I want to let the two of them figure it out themselves.
I'm not worried about Kang, he's an honorable man and will treat Luli well, it's Luli I'm worried about though. She survived some horrible things so we know that she's strong, but she's also a bit naive and might not even be aware that Kang is courting her so it's possible that she might need to get "the talk" from us, I'm not meaning to infantile a grown woman but luli is both well versed in the vices of men but also incredibly ignorant about some things of which I believe romance to be one of them
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>>5015439
>Endeavor to keep all the tiger children behaved in the palace and keep them out of trouble With Kanzeon. Truly one of your most daunting challenges yet!
We really do nee dot keep things under control.

>Write
Tell our Friend and Brother something oh so overlooked and dire to tell.

"Brother in my latest Tribulation I was aided by my Brother Magnus this you know but there was another. If I was Born of a Dragons egg...I met they which bore it. Beloved Weylen is my father but in that place during my battle I met my maker. More radiant than all the heavens and more fearsome than any foe i have come to know or consider. He is out there in the heaven reuniting his stolen drakes among them I and Magnus.

Brother, my heart bleeds to say...I might be taken from this place one day to serve it seems the purpose this Golden Dragon Emperor bore me and others for. I feel fear not for myself but for my family here..."

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I think a chat like this is long overdue. Also gives some more character development time.
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>>5015439
>>5015493
Support everything here especially the aaaaaa
>Confide with Jinhai, the truth you know of spirits and their world they live in. So the kingdom may be protected from the same fate that befell its predecessors
>Meet with Luli and discuss philosophy and faith while you're here with Kanzeon. Also ask if the rumors of an "Steel Lion courting humble Lotus flower" hold any truth

I'd like to combine discussing the spirits with both the emperor and Luli. Luli was there with us on our trip underground to Kanzeon and could benefit from knowing more about Lieren's enemies.
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>>5015456
I could see that being accomplished by using a similar set up to Kamal kanon, using large focal points of stable psychic energies, aranged across a vast distance to create a null denoucnment symbol on the planet itself, or perhaps to created wards. Alternative, one could instead use satilites and have them enter the orbhit of the planet, designed to arrange themselves into wards and charms to react to the shifting tides of the warp.

Perhaps a means of stabilizing the local warp space, using Prospero as a reference point for relativly calm warp space and using our teacher's own memeories as a reference point.
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>>5015439
>>Meet the triplets, and look into their hearts, so you may plan the gifts for their future birthdays
>>Meet with Luli and discuss philosophy and faith while you're here with Kanzeon. Also ask if the rumors of an "Steel Lion courting humble Lotus flower" hold any truth
I have a bad feeling about leaving Kuan Im and Al-Uzza for so long, but I don't think it makes sense to just up and rush back to the Shunni provinces.
>>5015684
>Alternative, one could instead use satilites and have them enter the orbhit of the planet, designed to arrange themselves into wards and charms to react to the shifting tides of the warp.
I was thinking of rebuilding the Nine Great Cities so that their streets themselves served as null denouncement charms to combat the taint that they've created. But that works too.
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>>5015721
Null Denouncement charm shaped Street and cities would be a bitch and a half on transportation and logistics, better to just teach the architects some of the charms and tell them that it's a requirement to engrave them on buildings they make from now on, don't even have to tell them why, just let beurocracy "reasons" be the explanation, no one ever questions beurocracy
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>>5015732
>Null Denouncement charm shaped Street and cities would be a bitch and a half on transportation and logistics
I disagree, but don't really want to get into an argument with a stranger about space magic and space magic accessories this early in the morning. Each building or household having a null denouncement "crest" over the door is probably a good idea. We could just have Jinhai put one up over the gates of the Imperial Palace and wait for everyone else to copy it.
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>>5015542
Support
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>>5015773
Forgot to say only adding on the part of the journey to my original vote
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>>5015684
>>5015721
Null denouncement seal affects human souls as well.
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>>5015439
>Meet the triplets, and look into their hearts, so you may plan the gifts for their future birthdays
>Confide with Jinhai, the truth you know of spirits and their world they live in. So the kingdom may be protected from the same fate that befell its predecessors
>Meet with Luli and discuss philosophy and faith while you're here with Kanzeon. Also ask if the rumors of an "Steel Lion courting humble Lotus flower" hold any truth
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>>5015439
>Meet the triplets, and look into their hearts, so you may plan the gifts for their future birthdays

>Confide with Jinhai, the truth you know of spirits and their world they live in. So the kingdom may be protected from the same fate that befell its predecessors

>Entrust best mom to keep the children behaved.
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>>5015815
How so? I can't imagine Lieren would use them as widely as he does if they have a negative impact on the soul.
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>>5015439
>Meet the triplets, and look into their hearts, so you may plan the gifts for their future birthdays
>Meet with Luli and discuss philosophy and faith while you're here with Kanzeon. Also ask if the rumors of an "Steel Lion courting humble Lotus flower" hold any truth

>Confide with Jinhai, the truth you know of spirits and their world they live in. So the kingdom may be protected from the same fate that befell its predecessors
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>>5015439
>Meet the triplets, and look into their hearts, so you may plan the gifts for their future birthdays
>Confide with Jinhai, the truth you know of spirits and their world they live in. So the kingdom may be protected from the same fate that befell its predecessors
>Seeing the benefits to your father's new lifestyle has inspired you to add a new teaching to the journey: To maintain a healthy mind, one must also maintain a healthy body. To expand one's knowledge without exercising the vessel to hold them, is the same mistake as to try to fill a cracked cup.
The kids getting daemon attention so soon may be Huli Jings last gambit that the divination from earlier warned of.
When it comes to warding the planet or vulnerable areas with null denouncement charms, perhaps we should try to make ghetto necron pylons, instead of pariah tech its a combination of materials and tech Kanzeon has with as many layers of null denouncement warding possible.
We could use urban Shuni areas as the test bed since those are the areas most vulnerable long term and the effect would be greatest there with how thin the veil is locally.
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>>5016318
It isn't limited to daemons anon, it targets all warp phenomenon including disembodied souls. After all it's called a NULL denouncement seal for a reason. If you want to an actual solution go speak to a non-DE Eldar, hell the female eldar watching Lieren is creating her own seals.
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>>5016350
>The kids getting daemon attention so soon may be Huli Jings last gambit that the divination from earlier warned of.
If it's that fucking fox, Lieren will probably be angry enough to try for a true death. Wonder if there's anything in the Shunni texts that survived our fires that could help?
>>5016365
You haven't answered my question. I'd also like a source.
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>>5016365
5th post of thread 8
>The wards and protections placed upon your crib by your regretful "birth" father, that must have guarded you from the whatever powers brought you to Shangrala. Which you have studied and now understand the exact geometrical shapes and sigils required to summon forth the same arcane protection that once shielded your infantile form from the predators of the Empyrean and their corruptive touch. And implant it into certain substances.
>A sort of nullification field, that denied such energies, forming an ethereal shield around the "Null Denouncement Charm" as you have chosen to name these magical wards against evil.
It's just anti-daemon/evil warpshit.
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>>5016368
Magnus explained it best in that Lieren uses it in the same way a caveman would use fire to keep beasts at bay. Lieren doesn't understand it at all beyond it repelling daemon and magic nor does he understand what a null despite having Dong around. This is the same problem ran into with warp energy in that he couldn't see it until he grasped the concept.
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>>5016371
Anon. Human souls are made of that energy.
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>>5016381
Anon. A human soul and a daemon are two very different things. Gellar fields don't flense the soul from the body when they're turned on, despite both being warp energy.
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>>5016383
A human soul and a daemon are different flavour of warp stuff and the difference never gets proper exploration.
>Gellar fields
It's a human psyker's dream being projected to create a stable reality around the ship. At least that's how "modern" gellar fields work, DAOT gellar fields must have been something different considering they we invented well before the discovery of psykers but likely used a similar principle.
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>>5016424
>the difference never gets proper exploration.
Yet there undeniably is a difference. If there wasn't, the charms would've already killed someone. There are no trap options in this quest, Malal has made that abundantly clear.
>>5016424
>At least that's how "modern" gellar fields work,
Some, not all, even after the regression of technology brought about during the Age of Strife. Regardless, the charms are described as producing "a field that shields all within it, in an area dependent upon the material and intricacies of the glyphs carved upon its surface, as well as the wearers ambient force of will." So a similar concept to how the passive will of a psyker, manifested through dreams, creates a bubble of anti-warpshit.
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>>5016449
>bubble of anti-warpshit
Gellar fields aren't bubbles of anti-warpshit. They are bubbles of reality which daemons can't enter for the similar reasons they can't invade reality without a ritual, they also maintain the law of physics so people don't spontaneously die because once again bubble of reality. They are no more anti-warp than the rest of the Materium which is something people often forget.
>There are no trap options in this quest
But people are fully entitled to make mistakes or suffer consquences of their choices. People have discussed how overuse of the seals could backfire pretty early on and he has in the past kept quiet when an action would harm other characters, like when Little Chen died.
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>>5016491
Calling back to the potential shortcomings of the Null Denouncement Seals, most of that was speculation.
I don't believe we've ever witnessed exactly what the script does besides provide protection against Warp energy and Warp based beings.
A lot of the potential worrying there was about how they would interact with the Human soul specifically, since it could be argued that souls are made of Warp energy.
Therefore, it might be a concern that they'd interfere with the soul's natural passage from the body after death, or cause other unforeseen effects.
Then there was also the attempts to become the embodiment of the Journey from its more zealous followers.
Who knows what kind of societal and spiritual problems could arise from that as people start to follow their own interpretations of the Journey.
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>>5016514
Without Lieren and with some passage of time I could see a gap developing between the Brotherhood of Panthers and the general Journey follower. The BoP becoming more zealous in hunting threats and since they were kinda formed before the book seeing themselves as "those who do dark shit so others may walk the journey in peace"
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>>5016601
I imagine anybody of Dong or Feng's ilk would be inducted into the brotherhood from an early age.sd0wr
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>>5016601
I can see that happening in the future depending on whether the Legions are split into Chapters. One focusing on defending and uplifting the common man, another on pursuing justice against villains both human and xenos, another dedicated to the never-ending struggle against the forces of true darkness and all its myriad slaves, etc.

Personally I don't think Lieren would allow that, wanting his sons to know happiness just as any other man, but he might not be in a position to influence them beyond the spiritual factor.
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Calling the vote now. Sorry for the wait.

Meet the triplets, and look into their hearts, so you may plan the gifts for their future birthdays:14

Confide with Jinhai, the truth you know of spirits and their world they live in. So the kingdom may be protected from the same fate that befell its predecessors:15

Begin planning a return to your formal duties. Ask of Jinhai and his officials the most pressing needs of the Long-Jia Empire (even though you already have...).:1

Meet with Luli and discuss philosophy and faith while you're here with Kanzeon. Also ask if the rumors of an "Steel Lion courting humble Lotus flower" hold any truth:9

Seeing the benefits to your father's new lifestyle has inspired you to add a new teaching to the journey: To maintain a healthy mind, one must also maintain a healthy body. To expand one's knowledge without exercising the vessel to hold them, is the same mistake as to try to fill a cracked cup.:5

Look for the strange spirit Guozhi spoke of earlier.: 1

Tell our Friend and Brother something oh so overlooked and dire to tell.: 1

Endeavor to keep all the tiger children behaved in the palace and keep them out of trouble With Kanzeon. Truly one of your most daunting challenges yet!: 1

Entrust Kanzoen to keep the children behaved: 1

Total votes: 18

So Lieren will Confide with Jinhai, Meet the triplets, and then Meet with Luli to discuss matters of philosophy, faith and a particular rumor concerning a "Lion and Flower"

Writing now
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>>5015439
>>Endeavor to keep all the tiger children behaved in the palace and keep them out of trouble With Kanzeon. Truly one of your most daunting challenges yet!
>>Meet the triplets, and look into their hearts, so you may plan the gifts for their future birthdays
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>>5016601
I am not that sure about that.
The BoP would still be very influenced by the Journey (written by Lieren one of their founders), Shangrila (their birthplace, the one of Lieren/Journey), the Long Jia (Jinhai is still a member of the Brotherhood, even if now he is a ruler. And it's likely he strengthen further the brotherhood position and make it connect to his dynasty forever. He basically did that already since he uses some of them as his royal guards, it make sense after all.), by his founding members and their thoughts/deeds (Lieren, Jinhai, Bai, Feng, Dong, Chen ecc ...) and when there is the unification by the second legion contact and collaborations on the battlefields.
Alongside the Wanderers, i think they are the ones more likely to remain for the most on the path made by Lieren.
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Jinhai stood upon the end of the scale carved pier, at the edge of the imperial family's island estate, skipping carefully polished river stones across the lake, as in the distance, you could hear a particularly rambunctious pack of your adopted wards playing a game of "War" with the household guard. It seemed Bai and Xin had been recruited to whatever imaginary cause they were mock fighting for. Kanzeon sat on the opposite side of Jinhai as yourself, dipping her bare toes into the cool water below the pier and creating waves and ripples with kicks and flexes of her feet

With arms hidden in the sleeves of your resplendent, ever changing robes you look out towards the horizon beneath the fogs and heavy lake side mists. Another stone vanished beneath the veil, and as Jinhai moved to take another stone from the wide laquered plate they had been gathered upon, he looked into your eyes while he bowed and frowned

"I can only imagine the gravity of the matter, if it can only be discussed privately, away from all others" He said, sucking on his teeth before flicking his wrist and sending the chosen stone jumping across the calm waters of the imperial lake "Though I do not doubt that you have your reasons for such secrecy. You after all, are uniquely exposed to secrets oft hidden from the concerns of other men. The curse of your piercing vision"

"Could be made into a poem" Kanzeon sarcastically stated, which Jinhai did not catch on to, and merely nodded his head in earnest agreement

"You are correct to assume such, Jinhai" You reply solemnly, never once removing your eyes from the horizon and the mists that hide it "The knowledge I intend to impart upon you, against oaths sworn, could bring about yet unseen tragedies and cataclysms to the land and her people if a wicked mind were to hear of it"

"I am humbled that you regard me with such deep trust, to share such a mystery with me and me alone. Though I suppose such is the nature of brotherhood, and that of teachers and student" Jinhai answered, the honor and pride he felt from your unspoken statement of trust resounding powerfully with every word that left his

"You are one of the most virtuous souls I have yet encounterd, Jinhai" You reply simply, nodding once and covertly exchanging a glance with Kanzeon, who remained silent in both word and thought "But this is no gift, it is a burden to endure. One you shall carry for all of your life, should you deign to listen to the dark wisdom I possess"

"The king comes last, I am a servant to the kingdom and her people, elder brother" Jinhai answered coolly, his expression unchanging as he judged a handful of stones in his hands , and true to the mask he wore there was no dread to be found in his noble heart "If this knowledge would allow me to guard it against threats I otherwise would be unable to, I would gladly condemn myself to hell to hear it"

"How admirable, it is rare to find men as selfless as you, your imperial majesty" Kanzeon proudly stated
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>>5017410

"Then, allow this humble scholar and nemesis of all that is vile and evil, to reveal to you the true nature of spirits and the world they inhabit beyond our own. A world separated by a thin veil, a breaking boundary, a shoddily built wall" You answer in hushed whispers, even though you are certain there is no one else near enough to listen into this most grave of lessons "The realm of the dead, departed and never born. A mirror of the land of the living and material. A place woven of raw emotions and thought. The realm of souls, mortal and divine. And the residence of beings wicked and odious beyond any mortal villain, whose character is so wretched and evil they can only named and considered as the denizens of hell itself"

Jinhai's eyes narrowed, and he clenched the stones in his hands tightly, compressing them together with an awful grinding noise.

"I have often done battle with these wicked spirits many times, as has Grandfather Guozhi. The sages, monks and mystics I mentor, are being prepared to become sentinels against these dark powers, guardians of the souls of not only the people or the kingdom, but Shangrala itself' You confess as you turn your gaze skyward "For, their truest and most terrible desire is to see the world of men corrupted into a copy of their own fetid realms. To bring hell to earth. And they had nearly succeeded in both the time of the Yan, and the reign of Kamal Kanan. They are seducers and temptresses, who offer power to the ambitious and sinful in exchange for eternal servitude. They are deceivers and liars, who masquerade as divine and heavenly beings to mislead the unwary . They are murderers and killers, who delight in the agonies of dying men. They are Nihilists and fools, who wish to see all they perceive stagnate and decay. They are anarchists and lunatics who wish to see the galaxy itself burn, until all that remains is a howling void"

Jinhai remained silent, rolling the stones around his palm as he nodded his head. His eyes were distant, but still the spark of fear found no kindling within his courageous spirit.

"The Journey, through happenstance, is poison to these creatures of the primordial discord. It denounces their existence, the sin that birthed them, it harms these spirits for they are living thoughts and emotions made manifest. To speak its teachings with convictions and true belief, wounds them as gravely as any spear or rifle" You continue on "So, they have sought to corrupt me, to twist the journey into a mockery of itself. At Every meeting and every temptation, I have spurned their seductions and dismissed their threats. And now, they have seen fit to brand me, to mark me for execution and promise a reward to my killer, be they man or spirit by birth. What a grand failure, these beings who corrupted and taint all they touch and behold, cannot stand the existence of a singular soul immune to their wiles and poison"
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>>5017412

You chuckle, removing your arms from the sleeves to clasp them behind your back. You could feel, distantly, the scornful glare of beings beyond comprehension and understanding, and you could feel the fury your insult had inspired within their vast, blackened hearts.

"And how will I know these spirits of wicked nature, should I meet them upon the road? How shall I ward them away from my home and kin? How shall I be able to protect the kingdom and her people from these tyrants of death?" Jinhai asks, uncowed. It is clear he views this new threat as he would any other opponent, and already his sharp mind is working to find a strategy to best them and overcome the risk they pose

With a dramatic roll of your wrist, and lashing of your arm, you reveal a ribbon with the script of the Null Denouncement Charm woven into its length

"I have found only a singular protection, beyond one's personal force of will and conviction, and the strength of arms and martial talent. Though, I have had success with banishing these cretins with fire" You answers, allowing the ribbon to fall into Jinhai's open hand "The disciples of the Wanderers in the Fog Sect will provide you any aid you require in guarding Long Jia against the denizens of primordial chaos, for that is their chosen purpose and the cause for their training"

Jinhai studies the script intently, before lifting his head

"Is there anything else you can tell me of these spirits, Lieren?" He asks, with a scholar's desire burning in his narrowed eyes.

"There is much I can" You answer, wearing a gentle smile "In fact, I should first detail the nature and presence of these spirits, so you may know them at a glance, as I myself am capable of"
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Jinhai found comfort in the presence of his wife and children. It was his manner of recovering from the mental strain of the lecture you had given to him. As you knew he would, he withstood the truth of spirits better than most men would, and did so gracefully. Daiyu, shared his tired eyes, and wore her hair messily despite the preening and grooming of her handmaids. She possessed a mother's beauty, and was struggling to remain awake as Jinhai held her hand and brushed her hair away from her half open eyes.

Avinash, Akanksha and Sandip were present in the nursery room, as was gentle hearted Luli. It was decorated with fresh flowers of white jasmine and colorful strings of silk. The ceilings and walls bore paintings of fantastical scenes and battles, as well as distant locales and landmarks. You recognized many of them as villages Jinhai had helped you save during your years serving as the administrator of the Gao's lands. Others, you knew to be sites of the battles he had won, the damage left behind undone and their beauty restored. Animals both mundane and mystical frolicked as shadows, produced by a rotating screen around the room's lights.
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>>5017413

Wenling, looked up at you with bright and curious eyes, Chestnut ringed with a thin band of jade green. Her short black hair combed to the east, and she sucked on a jade pendant around her mother's neck, shaped like a dragons scale. She blinked once, and then many more times, as she struggled to understand how their could exist a man larger than her father. Her heart and mind, like all infants, was a simple thing. Easy to read and understand, like traditional theater. You could tell, she had come to the conclusion that you were Jinhai's father, for in her bare understanding of life, she considered bigger things to be older.

If you had to name her initial nature, the core of her young existence. It'd be, curiosity. Her mind was like a mechanism, partially built. Unwrought Iron. She was unafraid by the terrors of babes, isolation, hunger and darkness and considered everything around her as deeply as an infant was able to. And as quickly as she focused her attention to you, it changed to a lock of her mothers hair, which she struggled to grasp at, mewling and babbling quietly as she did so.

Her sister took the lock of hair that held her intrest, and stuffed it in her mouth, with which you could see she already had four teeth despite being younger than a season. Liling, was the opposite of her sister, her eyes were narrowed rather than open, Jade ringed with Chestnut, and her black hair was swept westward. Drool dripped down her lips as she locked eyes with you, ignoring her sister's wordless pleas for their mothers hair. There was a defiance in her, a wild energy, a fire. In her own, infantile way, she was challenging you to take away her new chew toy. She was bold, even though the entirety of her world comprised of her mother and father's arms, the egg shaped cradle she was kept in and the nursery room where it was placed besides those belonging to her sister and brother.

If Wenling's heart was yet unwrought steel, Liling's was the embers of a fire. In her eyes, you could see the start of the blaze that was in Daiyu's eyes when she crossed spears with you at the day of her family's judgement. Or perhaps it is the start of a passion similar to the one that possess Tao Dandan. If Wenling's young mind holds the foundation for a scholar, then Liling's possess everything required for her to mature into a warrior.

Wenling whines as you reach forward, and gently tap her nose. She thought she had intimidated you, how amusing.

Daiyu chuckles, as Kanzeon creeps closer, eyes shimmering with delight and boundless joy at simply being close to such adorable babes. Her motherly instincts must be ablaze within her heart, but she restrains herself, knowing exactly how fragile infants are even if her caution is somewhat needless, after all, she knows how to control the strength of her puppet as naturally as if it were the body she had been born into.

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>>5017414

The last of the triplets, Jinhai's son, Boling, looked at you fearfully, He thought you were a monster or some form of predator and remained quiet while his sisters babbled and conversed in the wordless language of babes. His hair, was the same color as Daiyu's own, autumn red. The same color as his wretched grandfather and his frightened eyes were the a similar hue to both his and his daughter's. He alone possessed the Gao coloring, yet he was no dragon at least not yet. His heart was a worried one, but unlike his sisters, it wasn't his core nature and was more caused by your intimidating presence than anything else. Rather, from watching his mannerism and how calmly he sat in his father's arms, not struggling or moving to find a more comfortable position, told you that the core of his young heart was not worry or fear. But rather obedience

Wenling was Curious, Liling was Bold, and Boling was Obedient. All great qualities for children to carry into adult hood, and as they matured and their minds grew, they would form the foundations of their characters. What they would be in a year, or two from now, you could not foreseen. You knew them as they were now, as they were born, pure from the influences of life and experience.

When they had become a year older, you would get Wenling a puzzle, Liling a toy soldier, a Boling a shaped box to drop wooden shapes into. That should please the three of them, and fulfill the simple desires of children. You could only wonder how they would change from now to then.

"I can see portions of the mother and father in each of them!" You proclaim merrily, causing little Boling to start and pout "Shall they become great scholars? Storied generals? Or perhaps artists and poets? Only the heavens could know, but looking upon their yet unsullied hearts has been as cleansing as a summer rain, I am reinvigorated to meet my godchildren, and humbled to be allowed such a privileged position in their lives"

Sandip rubbed a finger, pouting as he looked at Liling

"She bit me!" He cried out, as Liling seemed to understand his complaint and smiled as if amused by it.

"She does that, often" Daiyu bemoaned, as Jinhai nodded Sagely

"And Boling wakes up early, and Wenling doesn't like being put to bed" Jinhai said excitedly "They are all rebellious in their own way, as much as babes can be"

You chuckle, and hear a rattle. And turn to see Kanzeon shaking one in each hand, trying to entertain the imperial heirs. You smile, and grab a piece of ribbon to see if you could entice one of the three to play with it.
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"I didn't expect Sandip to be as gentle with the babes as he was, and Ananya fell in love with all three of them" Luli exclaimed happily, as you sit with her and Kanzeon on a deck, watching Avinash lead a few of the younger boys on a "Hunt", trying to catch a glimpse of the Qilin the imperial family kept. A noble beast, that you had spotted from the nursery window, watching the triplets like a loyal hound.
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>>5017416

"And Avinash?" Kanzeon asked, as you watched the boy crawl through the carefully cultivated garden of flowers, followed by his peers

"He was quiet, I don't think he's seen a baby before, and was more shocked than anything else. Boys his age are often quieted when they remember they used to be small and meek" Luli answered with a shrug of her shoulders, ethereal petals and birds rising from her silver and gold limbs, lights flickering beneath her Riverstone black hair as it shifted with the turning of her neck.

"More likely he noticed the script I hid in the children's one hundred good wishes quilts" You say with a sneer "Though a father's protection is as an unbreakable wall, one cannot be scolded for being cautious in protecting others, especially babes"

Luli smiles, and nods once, rubbing her hands around the cup of hot tea you had served her.

"I noticed it to, I remember every gift I've been given and those characters were familiar to me" She states softly "Even if faith is a sturdy shield, hope can only save one from so much"

"You have experience on that front" Kanzeon muttered sadly. Luli turned and shrugged

"A flower will never bloom if it holds a grudge towards the rain, pain and suffering are simply another aspect of life and must be taken in stride" She answers simply

"A thousand gardens are grown over the graves of the fallen, a soldier returns home after war, a painters sorrow becomes his muse" You say, continuing the poem included in a rarely quoted passage of the journey

"A poet's tongue becomes hopelessly tied" Kanzeon chuckles, tapping her fingers on the table as she leans closer to you

"Oh, I'll have to remember that one!" Luli exclaims "it'd make for an excellent response towards my suitors"

"Speaking of suitors, is there any truth to the rumor I've heard of a certain Steel Lion courting a defiant lotus?" You cheekily ask, watching Luli's pale cheeks flush a brilliant shade of sunset scarlet

"Lieren, it is astonishing how polite you can be while simultaneously ignoring and forgoing common decorum" Kanzeon playfully scolded you as the glowing lines in Luli's augmentations flared pink and red, birds and petals replaced with fire and beams of sunlight

"He is one of many pairs of hands seeking to pluck that flower" She admits poetically, swirling her tea around as she sighed "His heart is noble, and his character is virtuous and moral. However, he is also pigheaded and rather stubborn. If he could learn to let go of his grudges, he'd be less ugly to my eyes, and if he could open his mind I might even return his affection. To cut a lotus from its roots, one must possess a sharp knife, as it is said"

"So, basically the cub needs to grow up" Kanzeon said with frown "and stop resenting the man who did everything in his power to give him his life back"

"And hang up his sword, I cannot love a warrior" Luli admitted, almost sounding ashamed "A killing tool has no place in a peaceful garden"
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>>5017418

Luli frowned

"I've witnessed too much cruelty and killing to tolerate anymore. But his eyes are kind, unlike the" Luli begins to trail off, it is clear she means the prince who defiled and brutalized her body. His death returns to your mind's eye, a bitter salve to the scars he left in the young woman's heart.

"Perhaps the lion will forsake its fangs and claws, if he truly desires the lotus blossom for more than its beauty" You state, shrugging your shoulders as you pour both women a fresh cup of tea

"Perhaps" Luli answered

"Or we could just neuter the cat and be done with it" Kanzeon grumbled as she raised her cup
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What do you do now, Lieren?

>Study the strange gem you tore from Cearnarch tongue, with Guozhi and Kuan im

>Contact Kang Yongrui, and talk to him about Luli and the suffering she has endured

>Meet with the refugees that have been appearing at the Xue border in an almost scheduled frequency

>Request permission to undertake a personal project of yours, using the kingdoms resources

>write in
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>>5017419
>Contact Kang Yongrui, and talk to him about Luli and the suffering she has endured

>Write in
Help them come to an understanding, that although Luli's suffering is not to be ignored that kangs warrior spirit is a part of him, after all, while the teachings of the journey encourages peace between men the reality is that warriors will always exist, but that if they are honorable protectors like the kangs then they are not but a boon to all


I am honestly sad, I pushed this ship from the beginning but this is honestly a deal breaker between them, if they cannot find a compromise between them then this relationship is doomed.

Luli is more than justified in feeling this way but Kang is a warrior in mind, body and soul...I'm so sad
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>>5017419
>Study the strange gem you tore from Cearnarch tongue, with Guozhi and Kuan im
Write in: also ask about the spirit he saw who helpped him out
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>Study the strange gem you tore from Cearnarch tongue, with Guozhi and Kuan im

Best get soulstone research out of the way
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>>5017419
>Study the stone
>Meet with Yonguri

I get her point, but she also needs to understand that warriors are always going to he a necessity. So long as she realises that, I dont really mind her preferences in love.
She may understand the requirement, but she may not.

And with those refugees, I believe it is almost time to face the butcher of Vishnu.
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>>5017419
I don't feel the need to play matchmaker here, let them figure it out. If they can't do that on their own it may be best that they never do.

>Study the strange gem you tore from Cearnarch tongue, with Guozhi and Kuan im
This has been a long time coming.

>Meet with the refugees that have been appearing at the Xue border in an almost scheduled frequency
We need info on what the Vishnu are cooking up, and how soon we can expect them to show up at our doorstep.
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>>5017419
>>Study the strange gem you tore from Cearnarch tongue, with Guozhi and Kuan im
>>Contact Kang Yongrui, and talk to him about Luli and the suffering she has endured
>>Meet with the refugees that have been appearing at the Xue border in an almost scheduled frequency
refugees planning something.
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>>5017419
>Study the strange gem you tore from Cearnarch tongue, with Guozhi and Kuan im
>Meet with the refugees that have been appearing at the Xue border in an almost scheduled frequency
>Learn about the lands of Bask, its recent history, and current affairs.
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>>5017419
>Study the strange gem you tore from Cearnarch tongue, with Guozhi and Kuan im
>And do it together with the strange material from Guozhi's staff
>Learn about the lands of Bask, its recent history, and current affairs.
>Send a message to talk with Qiqiang and his disciple, the liberator of the Bask.
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>>5017452
>>5017431
And supporting the write-in and thoughts about the couple.
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>>5017419
>Contact Kang Yongrui, and talk to him about Luli and the suffering she has endured
>Request permission to undertake a personal project of yours, using the kingdoms resources
Begin the project and the foundation of a new factory template even more ecological than recent ones, as well more advance and productive. Experiment in making the machines immune or harmful to the energies of the spirits, with the use of symbology, different materials and even the design it self.
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>>5017419
>Study the strange gem you tore from Cearnarch tongue, with Guozhi and Kuan im

>Contact Kang Yongrui, and talk to him about Luli and the suffering she has endured
I agree with the other posters that warriors are necessary. People that cannot fight a tyrant have no rights before one. Our positions in the world are determined by our ability to keep it, and every tyrant derives his authority from violence. For violence by it's nature exists to solve a problem or serve a purpose beyond just killing. Only self-destructive fools preach violence for violence's sake.
>Meet with the refugees that have been appearing at the Xue border in an almost scheduled frequency
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>>5017419
Also
>learn more about the "spirit" that assisted Ghuozhi
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>>5017419
>Study the strange gem you tore from Cearnarch tongue, with Guozhi and Kuan im
>Meet with the refugees that have been appearing at the Xue border in an almost scheduled frequency
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>>5017419
>>Meet with the refugees that have been appearing at the Xue border in an almost scheduled frequency
Could very well be King Khorne of the vishnu sending in saboteurs under the guise of refugees. Even if not a steady influx of non integrated "savage" Vishnun is going to create some instabillity and be a drain on resources in province likely to be a war zone soon.
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>>5017419
>Meet with the refugees that have been appearing at the Xue border in an almost scheduled frequency
>Study the strange gem you tore from Cearnarch tongue, with Guozhi and Kuan im
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>>5017431
Support

Study the gem
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>>5017419
>Study the strange gem you tore from Cearnarch tongue, with Guozhi and Kuan im
>Meet with the refugees that have been appearing at the Xue border in an almost scheduled frequency
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>>5017419
>>write in
>You have put it off for too long. Journey back to Kanan's Palace and search for Al-Uzza, so that Kanzeon's sorrow and worry might finally be resolved.
Probably too late, but it'll hopefully remind people we have a lead.
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>>5017419
>>Study the strange gem you tore from Cearnarch tongue, with Guozhi and Kuan im
>>Meet with the refugees that have been appearing at the Xue border in an almost scheduled frequency
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>>5017419
>Study the strange gem you tore from Cearnarch tongue, with Guozhi and Kuan im
>Meet with the refugees that have been appearing at the Xue border in an almost scheduled frequency
Its time we finally do something to end this war.
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>>5017419
>Study the strange gem you tore from Cearnarch tongue, with Guozhi and Kuan im
>Meet with the refugees that have been appearing at the Xue border in an almost scheduled frequency
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>>5017676
we'll probably do that after the war.
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>>5017733
At the rate things are going, probably. But she'd be an asset though. Kanzeon proper too, as soon as we settle on which method she should use to free herself.
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>>5017867
She s already doing that in part. Otherwise, neither the Brotherhood would receive such equipment in such a short time or Long Jia received additional materials and tools. Or us our high quality equipment.
Remember that we are already sending resources to her from time ago, she wouldn t be able to craft and produce this much if her ship was left mostly not functioning or imprisoned under the rock. The kabal materials where also a further boon and boost for her and us.
But with the liberation wars end a last effort can be given towards Kazeon ship, alongside starting ones towards the other sisters.

The fully functioning ship forges will be a great boost, more importantly though the ship scanners and other systems used for navigation and mapping can easily give us a picture of the whole world, as well the solar system.
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>>5017885
>The fully functioning ship forges will be a great boost, more importantly though the ship scanners and other systems used for navigation and mapping can easily give us a picture of the whole world, as well the solar system.
I was thinking her armament would be a boon as well. We have some planes, but the Vishnu have floating fortresses, in addition to VTOL transports. Shipboard weaponry will solve problems there, and also be able to cow entire cities into submission by presence alone. We might have to deal with primitive airborn troop carriers as well, their hypothetical ability to drop marauders behind our lines will be an issue if all the fighting men are on the front.
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>>5017892
I think we can deal with them with a combo of rocket laucher squads and anti air guns alongside turrets, that this for the VTOL s. For fortresses we are developing a fine artillery section of the army. And airtroop carriers could be taken out by our planes as well anti air guns + turrets. If they manage to droop some of their elite troops or even a squad of ichor champions, then we need to leave some brothers behind and other elite units. Our standard troops can still kill them thanks to the new equip, but they would face far more experienced foes than them so better no (though even our standard troops are probably filled with veterans at this point, so it s not bad for us).

Beside this, the army has started already a process of rapid modernization so we should be on par or even better in other things.
At this point, we need to strike hard at the start of the war or put such a defense that the Vishnu will take a devastating defeat just by approaching us.
In regard to what Kazeon can do, she probably will have her hands full with her sister for hacking, jamming and so on. The wanderers will need to counter all those evil spirits that Nintya has been gifted, and their influence.
And we, well we need to carve out a path directly in Nintya armies heart for stop them and then kill the tyrant.
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>>5017419

>Meet with the refugees that have been appearing at the Xue border in an almost scheduled frequency.

>Study the strange gem you tore from Cearnarch tongue, with Guozhi and Kuan im
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>>5017419
>>5017419
>Study the strange gem you tore from Cearnarch tongue, with Guozhi and Kuan im

>Contact Kang Yongrui, and talk to him about Luli and the suffering she has endured
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>>5017419
>Study the strange gem you tore from Cearnarch tongue, with Guozhi and Kuan im
AND MANGUS

Cyclops-bro needs to know about psyker-tools.
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Calling the vote now.

Contact Kang Yongrui, and talk to him about Luli and the suffering she has endured:7
- Help them come to an understanding:3

Study the strange gem you tore from Cearnarch tongue, with Guozhi and Kuan im:18
-And Magnus: 1

Ask about the spirit that assisted Guozhi:2

Meet with the refugees that have been appearing at the Xue border in an almost scheduled frequency:12

Learn about the lands of Bask, its recent history, and current affairs.:2
-Send a message to talk with Qiqiang and his disciple, the liberator of the Bask.:1

You have put it off for too long. Journey back to Kanan's Palace and search for Al-Uzza, so that Kanzeon's sorrow and worry might finally be resolved.:1

Request permission to undertake a personal project of yours, using the kingdoms resources:1
-Begin the project and the foundation of a new factory template even more ecological than recent ones, as well more advance and productive: 1

Total votes:22

So Lieren will meet with the Vishnu refugees and then study the strange tear like gem he found in the reaver lord Cearnarch's tongue with Guozhi and Kuan im

Writing now
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Ever since The dwarf king Madhur Roy and what remained of his retainers and family arrived at the building site of the Wall at the Xue border, still referred to by the shameful epithet of the "Lunatic's Wall" for the brief period of maddened training you performed around it, Twice every month at the end of its forth and eighth weeks another party rides for the wall, disheveled and haunted. Each has been lead by a king or queen, followed by eight screamers, and whatever servants, family members or strangers were spared by the Nitya Sinha while all others were taken from the streets and beheaded in before his army in what to you seems to be a form of ritualized slaughter. However Since summer began and ended and autumn's cool winds filled the valleys, around when you waged a quiet war against Kamal Kanan and his underlings both mortal and unborn, the predictable seemingly scheduled arrival of refugees has increased exponentially.

Thankfully, the generals holding the wall, who you have learned include the once esteemed Yan Zihao among their number, had the common sense to entrust the protection and recovery of these poor souls to the more sensible chiefs of the once Wild Vishnu Tribes. Kamakshi, Om and Manu have gathered them at a hospital maintained by the White Lotus, where they still remain in a state of shock and animalistic panic. Madhur Roy, has in a show of gratitude, done all he is capable of to gleam information from the terrified recounting of his once rivals and peers. Luckily, Akanksha is busy with her new husband and the call of his hunter's hear to visit and cause an international incident. Similarly, Rudra and Aruna have been preparing some kind of tournament for the young men and women of their tribe, and similarly have not had the time to terroize the poor souls. For all of them scarcely resemble the Vishnu of former ages, and the Vishnu of the Bone Devouring Forest are often times enraged by the "Weakening" of their people. Perhaps that would explain Nitya Sinha rapid accent in power and station, a sense of being betrayed by the men and women who tradtionally served as paragons of the Vishnu's martial life style? Or perhaps, as you dread, the Butcher of kings has a hellish patron amongst the spirits.

Today, you and Kanzeon have arrived at the hospital hosting the disposed nobility. Thankfully many of them are recovering well, though all of them are shaken to their core and bear a haunted look in their despondent, watery eyes. Their prides have been broken, and their force of will shattered. Humility has been forced upon them and gravely wounded them in spirit. When Madhur Roy ceases showering you with praises and filling your ears with tales told to him by the very same men and women you seek to interview, you are able to make progress and gain a deeper understanding of the greatest enemy Long-Jia faces. Now that the Shuni Magocracy have been broken,
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>>5018523

and the Bask have freed themselves from stagnancy and began to undo the generational decay that had befallen their society before Elazar Burueliza lead them to liberate themselves from the tyrants who allowed such degeneration to occur.

Namely, an explanation of what the panicked Madhur Roy had meant when he spoke of hordes of "Kauravas" marching beneath the shadows of "Vimana", amongst other wild and explained tales shared between each of the refugees.

You had theorized upon the meaning of the terms, with what little information could be gathered concerning their meanings and the technology shared between Kanzeon and her sisters. At times you had feared the king of kings lead an army of wicked spirits, or augmented horrors of cybernetic and gene altered monstrosities, or had equipped mundane army with magical and cursed weapons. The truth, revealed to you by three surviving kings who banded together in desperation against Nitya Sinha, is some how worse than any you could imagine.

The King of Kings, The Giant of the Vishnu, The Butcher of Lord, has access to cloning facilities. Cloning facilities that would have to rival the "Halls of ripening" Within Kanzeon's true body, the same which produced the Vessel now sitting besides you her avatar amongst men, to be able to produce the army described by the three usurped kings. From their recounting, it would appear he has taken to using masses of slaves taken from his former rivals to soften their defenses, before initating a festival of slaughter by unleashing the true bulk of his army.


An army could only be made by a functioning cloning bay continuously creating new soldiers to bolster their number and render any loss no matter how significant utterly meaningless.

An army accompanied by vehicles of war that could only be produced by a foundry of similar build to Kanzeons own. Vehicles that include titanic aircraft that dwarf anything Long-Jia has constructed, that host flocks of fighter craft akin to the "Steel birds" Shirong "invented" With Kanzeon guidance. An army wielding weaponry that, before Kanzeon's breaking of her oath of noninterference, was peerless and unmatched upon Shangrala! Indeed! This brute king could even impede the advance of your father's great armies upon distant terra! Weapons equipped with motorized saws, power fields similar to that possesed by the Prince's twin Daos and their imitations, and even the "Flaying" energy exhibited by the Six fanged spear!

Truly, the only advantage you hold against Nitya Sinha's forces, is the aeldari technology you have reversed engineered. Dark Light, Aethersails, anti-gravitic generators, and altered Agonizers that you have termed "Body Sealing Whips". Even the Water generating stones, can be assumed to be in The Butcher King's hands, tools so dangerous you have refused their use even after field plasma AND Darklight against the sorcerer tyrants of the Shuni!

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>>5018525

There are three conclusions that can be drawn. The most unlikely, that Nitya Sinha had stumbled upon Avalokiteśvara's corpse, as Kanzeon feared, or she has abandoned their purpose of guarding and nurturing humanity or otherwise lead astray from the path Kanzeon has held herself to since time immemorial.

Either Avalokiteśvara has been deceived or enslaved. Or she has willingly aligned herself with a murdering warlord.

And this evidence, has Sent Kanzeon into a dark mood. One Dark enough that she has left your side this night, to contemplate in the wilderness and seek solace in her own computations and thoughts.

While you remain close enough to observer her, you allow her her solitude. Either she must mourn one of her sisters, or she must face a harsher reality yet, that her kin have forsaken their mission for a yet unknown reason.

But she is not idle, even as she sulks, she continues work freeing her body from its prison, a prison now greatly lessened and turned to raw materials to fuel her body's many arcane components and industrial machinery. And so, you to shall not slack in your work.

Guozhi, Kuan Im, and Cai, have heeded your call to join you in study, the two remaining core disciples, the twin exorcists Bohai and Peizhi are occupied cleansing a fallen fort in the northern most regions of the Long-Jian Kingdom.

Cai, came despite you only asking Guozhi and Kuan im for their assistance in your meditation upon the strange tear shaped stone you tore from an alien's tongue. Apparently, he had a dream that convinced him his presence would be vital in this "Contemplation of crystalized souls"

A ritual site has been prepared. Lines drawn in sand, filled with a mixture of Carmine, salt, ash and mercury contained in leak proof vessels to prevent it from poisoning the soil beneath. The Null Denouncement script has been writ across the array, in characters of jade and agate.

You set the gem stone upon a silver plate in the center of the circle, and instantly Guozhi's young eyes flare with recognition.

"A soul cries out within it" Kuan im shudders, as Cai nods

"A form of necromancy! I recognize the signs of that most heretical of arts" Cai exclaims, almost too excitedly as Guozhi face pales

"The spirit I met, that aided me in your protection, Grandmaster! She wore a gem like the one set before us now!" The old scholar proclaims gravely, eyes flashing between you and the stone. The other two fall silent, their chants and mantras stilled with trepidation, as you boldly approach the stone

"Haaa! We do not know what power lies within it!!" Cai cries out, before Kuan im sighs

"Elder Lieren is stronger than all three of our number combined, and his eyes reveal the true nature of all things" Kuan Im says simply, placing a hand upon the shaken occultist's chest

"And there is no danger in that stone" Guozhi mutters

"Elder Kuan Im? Elder Guozhi?" Cai gasps, amazed by his fellow sect members' trove of wisdom
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>>5018526

You pluck the tear shaped gem between your fingers, and turn it around.

A few moments of intense study are all that is required for you to understand the function of the stone. It is a mystical device. One that, as Cai had managed to correctly guess, traps a soul within it at the time of its mortal vessel's demise. It cannot be Cearnarch's soul, for his was blacker than the stygian depths of Kanzeon's prison.

But its composition is similar. Brighter than a mundane man's essence, stronger, older and more soundly fortified. It is an Aeldari, but uncorrupted.

You blink, as you feel to the stone shudder and wail beneath your fingers. You stared too long, you turn away and the gem ceases its movements.

"Curious" You mutter, gingerly placing the Soul containing tear into your palm, treating it with the same reverence and respect as you would any living soul.


Bowing your head, you begin to wind whisper to the intelligence imprisoned within the gem.

It speaks first.

"What are you?" Its ghostly words roil just beneath your

"Aaah! the departed speaks!" Cai gasps, as Guozhi nods and Kuan im turns her blind eyes to the gem in your hands

"Ah, an ancient existence" She says as if it is the most mundane thing in life.

"There are many answers to that question, and many of them are contradictory" You reply.

"My jailer's thoughts have gone silent, I suppose it is you I should thank for my liberation? it is unbelievable that novice upon the path of the Seer would be capable of besting the self proclaimed lord of the Stellar hunt! Or am I being presumptuous of my savior's capabilities? Or were you aided by my brothers and sisters of Kher-Ys? Your accent is strange, could you repeat to me the current date as you know it, from the Fall?" The spirit rambles, exhibiting symptoms similar to a monk who has ended his vow of silence, a need to make up for words unspoken by rambling

And it is obvious, for some reason, this Aeldari soul believes you to be an Aeldari yourself. Perhaps because of your greater psionic presence? Or the gentle moonlight of Arianka, which has become one with you as your golden fire had intermingled with her own essence?

How do you respond, Lieren?

>Deceive the spirit, and weave an Avatar out of Qi to project into his prison, to set him at ease and converse with him as an equal rather than a "Mon-Keigh" as Aeldari name humanity

>Answer honestly, and say you are but a man, despite the difference between yourself and other men. Ask how he came to be imprisoned in such a strange device

>Ask if there's any way for him to be freed from his confines and returned to the cycle of rebirth.

>Offer him a replacement body. Kanzeon, when her grim mood ends, would be happy to assist in the endeavor.

>Write in

Sorry for the late update, felt ill when I woke up. But it passed
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>>5018528
>>Answer honestly, and say you are but a man, despite the difference between yourself and other men. Ask how he came to be imprisoned in such a strange device
>Ask if there's any way for him to be freed from his confines and returned to the cycle of rebirth.
Considering the fact that he was imprisoned by a dark eldar I do not trust him enough to give him a body. He could very well be some other maniac that got eaten by a bigger fish.
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>>5018528
>Answer honestly, and say you are but a man, despite the difference between yourself and other men. Ask how he came to be imprisoned in such a strange device
>Offer him a replacement body. Kanzeon, when her grim mood ends, would be happy to assist in the endeavor.
Anybody imprisoned by somebody like the Lord of the Stellar Hunt is probably pretty alright.
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>>5018528
>Answer honestly, and say you are but a man, despite the difference between yourself and other men. Ask how he came to be imprisoned in such a strange device

Well dealing with the special k follower just got a lot more complicated, if we are going to do anything it would have to start with taking the cloning out or offline then the leader out, though it won't be easy with their advanced tech, and we definitely shouldn't go with an army if we don't want our people slaughtered, it'll have to be a strike team again , though better prepared for the potential types of tech we would face
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>>5018563
A small unit deployed to find and destroy the cloning facilities goes without saying.
What we also need to do is fortify the ever living fuck out of the border.
Whatever AA we have there, it isn't enough. It'll never be enough.
WE NEED MORE DAKKA!
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>>5018528
>Answer honestly, and say you are but a man, despite the difference between yourself and other men. Ask how he came to be imprisoned in such a strange device
>Ask if there's any way for him to be freed from his confines and returned to the cycle of rebirth.
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>>5018554
Support
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>>5018528
Write-in
>show him our story
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>>5018528
>Answer honestly, and say you are but a man, despite the difference between yourself and other men. Ask how he came to be imprisoned in such a strange device
>Ask if there's any way for him to be freed from his confines and returned to the cycle of rebirth.

>advanced tech
>cloning
>khornate
hahaha fuck
We've got our work cut out for us with Nitya Sinha that's for sure.
It doesn't matter how much we improve our military, this is going to be ugly regardless if we go into open conflict.
I would propose sowing discontent amongst other Vishnu leaders to cause a civil war, but its probably too late for that, I imagine Nitya has a vice grip on everyone's balls at this point.
A good idea might be to bring the dream team again and try to kill Nitya and/or shut down the cloning facility.
The rest of their tech is likely there to stay, so I'm afraid the slow grind is our only option. That and stealing/sabotaging their ships and other such chicanery.

We could maybe try to get this kind Eldar gentlemen to get us in contact with his siblings, and ask them for help with some "local problems" (read: khornates) as recompense. So long as he is not a complete asshole himself of course.
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>>5018528
>Answer honestly, and say you are but a man, despite the difference between yourself and other men. Ask how he came to be imprisoned in such a strange device
>Ask if there's any way for him to be freed from his confines and returned to the cycle of rebirth.
>Offer him a replacement body. Kanzeon, when her grim mood ends, would be happy to assist in the endeavor.
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>>5018528
>>Answer honestly, and say you are but a man, despite the difference between yourself and other men. Ask how he came to be imprisoned in such a strange device
>>Offer him a replacement body. Kanzeon, when her grim mood ends, would be happy to assist in the endeavor.
So the Vishnu have
>cloning
>hyperadvanced DAOT weaponry
>khornate corruption
>massive fuck-off aircraft
We need to find Al-Uzza, dig out (ba dum tss) Kanzeon, and take a field trip over to the Bask while she works on readying Long-Jia for was to find sister #4. If Nitya really could make taking Shangrala a chore for the Emperor, we'll need to unite the rest of the planet to beat him. Maybe we should start a search for lost archeotech? Go from province to province asking about local myths, legends, or rumors that might just be reports of advanced technology distorted over millennia?
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>>5018595
Honestly showing him the encounter with Nurgle would have him feeling like Lieren is an honorary Aeldari despite being envious as fuck. Hell any of Lieren's fights against Chaos would have him impressed.
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>>5018528
>>Answer honestly, and say you are but a man, despite the difference between yourself and other men. Ask how he came to be imprisoned in such a strange device
>>Ask if there's any way for him to be freed from his confines and returned to the cycle of rebirth.

I am wondering if we should ask Nintya for a direct fight with him. I doubt he can refuse a one on one fight. The vishnu are a very martial culture after all, though he likely would arrive in the fight with armor and equipment similar to our own making the fight equal. Beside our psyker ability.
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>>5018606
Imagine, you've been a drukhari's tongue stud for the past 700 years, most of your existence revolving around Sslyth pussy, when suddenly your bearer is curbstomped by the psyker equivalent of a sage-king 18 wheeler who, after carrying you around in his man purse for a few months, shows you his memories of channeling Kaela Mensha Khaine himself and flirting with the mother of your species while crippling a greater daemon of Nurgle IN FRONT OF NURGLE. That's gotta be a come-to-god moment for any eldar.
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>>5018612
A straight up duel might work, we do have the mark, so defeating us one on one would earn him infinite favors with Khorne.
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>>5018617
A duel is exactly what Khorne wants, so I say we don't do that.
I'm more in favor of an extremely overwhelming ambush.
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>>5018623
>>5018617
>>5018612
>not dueling him to defeat him in such a way that proves him wrong
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>>5018528
>Answer honestly, and say you are but a man, despite the difference between yourself and other men. Ask how he came to be imprisoned in such a strange device
>Offer him a replacement body. Kanzeon, when her grim mood ends, would be happy to assist in the endeavor.
>Write in
FUCK YEAH! Show his our fight with the lord of rust and our brief encounter with Isha. Letw do it lads!
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>>5018614
+1 this

>>5018617
>>5018623
We could try being dishonorable as fuck and spam psyker powers? Agro him to all hell and get him off his game.

>"You whores son! You dishonor our duel with disgusting psykerism!?" Said Nitya Sinha
>"lol" said Lieren
>"lmao" said Magnus watching from the warp
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>>5018584
Changing from
>Ask if there's any way for him to be freed from his confines and returned to the cycle of rebirth.
To
>Offer him a replacement body. Kanzeon, when her grim mood ends, would be happy to assist in the endeavor.
And supporting talking about Isha.
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>>5018649
On one hand, I don't want to enrage an opponent while fighting again, specially against a Khornate champion that will just stronger for it.
On the other one, casting flames on him until he start ranting about sorcery, only to respond that when Khorne tried to kill us he used a torrent of hellfire instead of giant sword, so his god would be a dishonorable psyker is way too funny of a image.
>>5018623
It might work and thorw the entire army in disarray, or it might backfire and just enrage the clones and theirs leader into more suicidal attack.
Maybe we shoul try to get to Kanzeon's sister and stop her somehow, he can't keep up the meatgrinder if he becomes unable to reinforce.
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>Offer him a replacement body. Kanzeon, when her grim mood ends, would be happy to assist in the endeavor.
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>>5018649
>Agro him to all hell and get him off his game
He's an adherent of Khorne getting him mad only makes him stronger.
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>>5018528
>Answer honestly, we are a man
>Offer them a replacement body
>Show them our story/speak of Isha

It occurs to me, that if the Eldar were able to learn from Ghuzai about slipping the nets of death, that's make a cool hero unit.
But probably not viable, so we just have to laugh at the eldar for being able to do what they can't
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>>5018528
>Answer honestly, and say you are but a man, despite the difference between yourself and other men. Ask how he came to be imprisoned in such a strange device
>Offer him a replacement body. Kanzeon, when her grim mood ends, would be happy to assist in the endeavor.
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>>5018698
It wouldnt matter if they learned the technique, all of their souls are tetherd. Leiren would need to figure out how to sever that connection with "She-Who-Thirsts" before it would be viable.
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>Offer him a replacement body. Kanzeon, when her grim mood ends, would be happy to assist in the endeavor.
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This talk of a replacement body does raise some questions. Namely;
>Would an Eldar soul be able to exist in a human body?
>If not, do we have Eldar tissue samples to clone from instead?
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>>5018837
Could we not involve the Aeldari in the design process. I mean we could try get him to conjure an image of what he looked like while alive and use Lieren's amazing art skills to design the body.
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There is one oh so simple but brutal way to handle the Khorne threat. We get a rock bring it high then we drop it upon their home base.

Creating a very real rendition of heavens judgement
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>>5018718
Become the new Eldari god, reforge Khane, become Khaine's replacement, free Isha.

>>5018837
We probably have some rotting tissue samples, or preserved ones we brought back to Kanzeon's main body. If anything we could pick off bits of blood from where ever they died on the planet, then clone up a new body.

>>5018877
We still gonna wow him with out encounter with Isha?
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>>5018528
>>Answer honestly, and say you are but a man, despite the difference between yourself and other men. Ask how he came to be imprisoned in such a strange device
>>Ask if there's any way for him to be freed from his confines and returned to the cycle of rebirth.
>>Offer him a replacement body. Kanzeon, when her grim mood ends, would be happy to assist in the endeavor.
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>>5018698
Supporting this.
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>>5018523
>Today, you and Kanzeon have arrived at the hospital hosting the disposed nobility. Thankfully many of them are recovering well, though all of them are shaken to their core and bear a haunted look in their despondent, watery eyes. Their prides have been broken, and their force of will shattered. Humility has been forced upon them and gravely wounded them in spirit. When Madhur Roy ceases showering you with praises and filling your ears with tales told to him by the very same men and women you seek to interview, you are able to make progress and gain a deeper understanding of the greatest enemy Long-Jia faces. Now that the Shuni Magocracy have been broken, and the Bask have freed themselves from stagnancy and began to undo the generational decay that had befallen their society before Elazar Burueliza lead them to liberate themselves from the tyrants who allowed such degeneration to occur.


Well someone journey missionary had an epic adventure.
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>>5019026
And it makes me sad that people don't want to talk to them.
Qiqiang and Elazar are just normal humans and they managed to topple a nurglite regime with faith int he journey alone.
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>>5019027
I think that just shows how shit Nurgle's followers are desu.
They may revel in disease and stagnation, but a sick man in a static position will probably be unable to react to his opposition accordingly.
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>>5019027
I would love to talk to them. And we probably should. Those peeps are fucking hero units. They took down nurgle regime alone.
I'm curious how pops is going to react to them.
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>>5018528
>Answer honestly, and say you are but a man, despite the difference between yourself and other men. Ask how he came to be imprisoned in such a strange device
>Ask if there's any way for him to be freed from his confines and returned to the cycle of rebirth.
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Not nuff people wanna ask about the Isha thing. I'm afraid that if we dont bring that up, he might not be as willing to talk with us further or cooperate.
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+1 to discussing our tsle of isha
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>>5019046
Getting write-ins to pass is becoming harder and harder.
Someone should post a picture, that seem to get more votes for some reason.
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>>5019034
Honestly the Emperor would be more impressed with the Journey there.
>>5019046
I want to tell him about that too since there is no reason not too. Technically >>5018597 this is my vote in favor of it.
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>>5019057
He'd be impressed, but certainly not surprised.
If there's anybody who knows the true might of a population united by faith, it's the Emperor.
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>>5019053
Ideally write-ins are submitted within the first 5 or so posts or, like I did with the Malal write-in, announced that they're being written. Else it's hard to get the support of the people who check daily for an update, vote if there is one, and leave instead of just having the tab opened with auto-update on. But this is just the beginning of our conversation with this soul. It isn't going anywhere, and neither are we.
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>>5019122
Having a picture also helps, but yeah, timing is everything.
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>>5019122
That's true, most write-ins that won were either near immediate, had an image, were shilled or were during one of those times where the machine spirits delayed an update.
It kind of sucks for people who miss the update because of work or sleep and try to come up with a write-in, but Malal's rule on one less than half also helps a lot too. And he has also remembered some good ones and made them default options later, so it's not exactly hopeless.
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>>5018528
>Answer honestly, and say you are but a man, despite the difference between yourself and other men. Ask how he came to be imprisoned in such a strange device
>Offer him a replacement body. Kanzeon, when her grim mood ends, would be happy to assist in the endeavor.
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>>5019122
>>5019136
iv'e definitely found that all my write-ins that have gone through have been posted immediately after the update. if people see a huge thread already formed under the options they likely wont read through it, only look at the first few posts and then pick a default answer.

anywho
>>5018528
>>5018528
>>Deceive the spirit, and weave an Avatar out of Qi to project into his prison, to set him at ease and converse with him as an equal rather than a "Mon-Keigh" as Aeldari name humanity
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>>5019124
Anything to draw the eye to the post helps
>>5019136
>And he has also remembered some good ones and made them default options later, so it's not exactly hopeless.
That's why I'm not too worried about stuff like searching for Al-Uzza. Still want to keep it in people's mind in case we get the chance and it isn't a default.
>>5019219
>if people see a huge thread already formed under the options they likely wont read through it, only look at the first few posts and then pick a default answer.
Par for the course, really.

In any case, I finally decided to make a To Do List, since things always pile up for us around wartime. Lemme know if I forgot anything and I'll add it.
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>>5019301
>HIGHEST PRIORITY
nah
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>>5019308
Don't fear the truth, anon
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>>5019310
Nah, we already got the extendo stick.
It's the other end of the Gundao.
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>>5019313
But we could have such a superior extendo stick. One that can even become several extendo sticks of equal power.
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>>5019301
Add (some may redundant to some points already made, but i recon you can just cut some parts and put them together)

HIGH PRIORITY
- Expand prosperity and unity across Shangrila, after the end of the liberation wars and tyrants defeats. Hunt down crime, poverty and misery in to extinction.
- Ensure the technological knowledge that is being made, and the one recovered from future battlefields and foes, helps further the Empire of Long Jia and the peoples under it

MEDIUM PRORITY
- Make the Long Jia military more organized and powerful, with direct intervention on his recruitment, training, structure and tactics. (new equipment is already arriving in and being integrated)
- Explore the old monastery of the Dai monks, restore it and gift it to the wanderers as a new monastery, as well a honored memorial to their precursors (when liberation wars end, not now)

LOW PRIORITY
- New Fortifications and defenses across the entire world, and in orbit (add vaults and underground tunnel networks for the safety of our peoples). The creation of a "basic" (if one made by a primarch and an AI of the DAOT could be call such) defense grid for Shangrila.
- Explore our solar system with Kazeon ship ! (not before mapping fully our homeworld from orbit and sense any signs of additional lost technology that we didn't see)
- Understand why the natural barriers between reality and the empyrean in Shangrila are so thin, and what can be done about it. From strengthen it to set up anti-spirit defenses.
- More exchanges between us and Magnus. While he can help us in sorcery and psykers matters, we can help him even in matters of technology, administration and military. As well convince him of being a lover of nature like us.
- Build new academies and laboratories across the world for spread the feats of science and attract more people to it.
- Future space related stuff in the system (in depth exploration, construction, colonization, make a fleet ecc...)
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>>5018528
>>Answer honestly, and say you are but a man, despite the difference between yourself and other men. Ask how he came to be imprisoned in such a strange device
>>Ask if there's any way for him to be freed from his confines and returned to the cycle of rebirth.
>>Offer him a replacement body. Kanzeon, when her grim mood ends, would be happy to assist in the endeavor.

Clearly, since the enemy has aerial supremacy, we need orbital supremacy. Nothing some rods from god cant handle.
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>>5019319
> Something something the only extendo stick Lieren needs is between his legs.
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>>5019301
I would like to know more about the ghost shards of the dai monks, and find a way to help them, and Also to purify the monastery and see if they have anything good hidden there.
And don't forget about searching for the Bask's colony ship too.
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Why haven't we made a martial art that uses an opponent's strength against them?
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>>5019551
When we battle the khornefag, we will have one.
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>>5018698
Support
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>>5019551
Because Lieren hasn't seen an animal that he can name that style after yet.
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>>5019524
On the topic of reforging the souls of the Dai monks, they're gonna need a body, right?
Obviously Kanzeon could make one for em, but that brings up another question.
What kind of body should we make?
Should we try base it entirely off of baseline Long-Jia genetics?
Or would we be better suited picking and choosing from the genetic traits of our presumably willing donors?
Or maybe we still have some viable samples from Cui Fu's cadaver.
Imagine a body like his tempered with the wisdom of a thousand lifetimes.
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>>5019600
We probably would need to make something stronger than a normal human body to be able to host a fusion of souls without it having some problems, maybe helping this eldar, planning a body for kanzeon, studying with Guonzhi or even trying to understand a bit of our own genetics could go a long way.
But that depends if we are even going with the putting their souls into a new body way, we could also try to nake smaller fuaions and put them on the reicarnation cycle, or try to ward off a area of the warp so they can be at peace.
As much as I want to have a mini-emperor as a son, making sure that they don't suffer anymore takes priority.
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>>5019600
>>5019615
Well there is a cloning facility that could go a long ways to helping us controlled by the Vishnu.
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>>5019386
Some of those would fall under furthering innovation and some are a bit too broad and conceptual. I did forget about the Dai monks, the thinness of the veil between Shangrala and the Warp, and our plans for space travel though, so thank you for reminding me of those
>>5019454
Two sticks is better than one, ol' peepaw used to say.
>>5019524
Done, done, and done. Hopefully our conversation with Elazar clues us in on a lead. The IRL Basque goddess Mari is said to live in a cave under a mountain...
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Calling the vote now. Also posting that amazing commission an anon had done, cause its radical

Answer honestly, and say you are but a man, despite the difference between yourself and other men. Ask how he came to be imprisoned in such a strange device:18

Ask if there's any way for him to be freed from his confines and returned to the cycle of rebirth.: 7

Offer him a replacement body. Kanzeon, when her grim mood ends, would be happy to assist in the endeavor.:12

Show him your story/ battle with the keeper of rust & encounter with Isha:7

Deceive the spirit, and weave an Avatar out of Qi to project into his prison, to set him at ease and converse with him as an equal rather than a "Mon-Keigh" as Aeldari name humanity:1

Total votes:22

So answering honestly and offering him a replacement body win

Writing now

>>5019658
Kanzeon has one to, that's how she made her "avatar".
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>>5020042
And this one
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>>5020044
and this one as well.
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>>5020044
Malal, are our looks inspired by geralt of rivia?
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>>5020051
Not particularly, but I do like the character and his setting, in all three of its forms. Witchers are rad
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The cause does not matter, the prisoner within the tear shaped gem believes you to be his kith and kin, and that misunderstanding fills his spectral heart with hope. However it would be cruel to allow false hope to root itself in his heart. Deceit by nature is eventually discovered lest it becomes reality and you have no ambitions or desire to renounce your humanity to become one of Isha's children, this lifetime at least. Like cleansing a wound, revealing the truth should be done instantly before falsehood can fester and twist this captives heart to feel spite and contempt in place of gratitude.

"I cannot answer that question, nor do I know the length of your imprisonment for I am not Aeldari, but you are correct to assume it was I who had slain lord Cearnarch and all of his foul kin and retainers" You answer humbly and truthfully, words free of deception and even the pettiest of lies.

"The entire host of the Stellar hunt? Most Impressive if true. I will admit I find it, difficult to believe a mortal race exists that could produce a specimen such as yourself, while simultaneously remaining free of the taint of Sha'eil" The prisoner answers after a few breaths of silence "Perhaps my tragic race has at last found an ally amongst the stars, pray tell what is your species, liberator?"

You cannot help but to smirk as you turn the gem around your palm, your incisors peeking from behind your lips as you breath in and ready yourself to reveal your identity to the gembound soul.

"I believe your kind knows mine by the name of "Mon'keigh" You laugh.

Your conversation partner falls silent, for longer than the span of a few breaths, indeed by time he speaks again an incense stick could have been completely burned. Kuan Im, Guozhi, and Cai remain silent as well, peeking into your conversation but never joining it.

"Impressive, most impressive. And shameful, for myself" The prisoner at last answers, laughing along with you "To think I would be rescued by a race looked down upon by my fellows as primitive, oh how the shame burns and lingers. But, I cannot take insult by what rescued me, I can only be amazed that such a Mon'keigh exists who could defeat a veteran warrior and survivor whose lifespan dwarves his own, you must be a prodigy of either physical or psionic battle to claim such a feat. Hah! to think the Mon'keigh would rise so far as to produce a specimen such as yourself, liberator. I must have been trapped upon his tongue for many eons for your kind to evolve to such an extent"

"I was crafted, not born. But I am still human, despite the alterations that proceeded my "birth" You reply, once more silencing the man "The gap between my power and other men, is meaningless, for I am still their brother by nature and spirit. The circumstances of my birth and the might I possess, matter not. I am a man, nothing more. So I remain unsure of the duration of your imprisonment, oh liberated one"
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>>5020133

"Then Vaul himself, were he still living, must have played a hand in your creation" The Aeldari mutters, before letting a spiritual sigh pass by his immaterial lips "For why else would a mon'keigh possess such potent psionic power, let alone choose to wield it to save one Aeldari from another. If only your kind had evolved, then I could measure the time I have spent alone with a madman and his detestable spawn"

"Liberated one, may I ask how you came to be imprisoned so? As I am not Aeldari, I have little concept of your people's histories besides what I was able to gleam from the degenerated examples of it" You question, making your tone one of gentle and well meaning curiosity.

"I was born after the fall, which was the punishment deserved by my people for our arrogance and wild excesses" He says, making you intrigued enough to widen your eyes "and which ended our universal empire and rule over the stars. Our gods were devoured by...that which was birthed by our decadence, She who thirsts. The majority of my race was devoured in an instant as She was born, the universe you live in was shaped by her emergence. Our gods were consumed, except for three though one has suffered a fate more terrible than oblivion by my consideration"

"I have heard that part of the tale before" You admit with a solemn nod

"Then It is not necessary for me to give painful context to my situation, Liberator" The Aeldari sighs, quite heavily "Though, it is pleasing to know my savior is not wholly ignorant of the great tragedy of my kind, perhaps your species improved itself in ways different than psionic evolution, no matter. But, I was..or am a farseer of Craftworld Kher-Ys, if the title has any meaning to you, recently committed to the path of the seer after spending some brief decades as a warlock. Prophecy had consumed me body and soul, oh mighty mon'keigh"

The trapped seer laughed, but it was clear he meant the title as a teasing compliment rather than a scathing insult, the tone of his voice and demeanor revealed as much.

"Like many lost upon the path of the seer, I sought my races salvation, and foolishly allowed myself to be misled by the future I beheld. Cearnarch the huntmaster is...was a contemporary of figures such as Eldrad Ulthran of Ulthwé, and is an unfortunate remnant and survivor of the Aeldari empire, he had been believed, as so many others had, to have lost his soul to She who thirsts hunger or been consumed by the chaos that followed the Fall of my people. He had been a staunch follower and priest of Kurnous, and devouted his life to hunting the most dangerous of game available in the galaxy. Once, he had been content to satisfy his cravings upon alien beasts and primitive warriors but, the depravity that afflicted our people's souls lead him to turn his sights upon his own people as prey animals"

The gem shudders with revulsion and long impotent contempt.
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>>5020135

"Of course, he was born into a society that exulted in such deplorable delights, however when our numbers dwindled and the survival of our race became endangered, Cearnarch continued his games and found quarry amongst my people, Craftworlders. I, as a farseer, though young among my peers, was thus a...trophy he sought and desired greatly. Whilst making pilgrimage to a Lilaethan prothesized to hold the future salvation of Kher-Ys, My force was ambushed and captured by the Huntmaster. My followers and underlings were tortured, sent to fight beasts and barbaric warriors, their soul stones taken from their mangled corpses and enshrined in the "Manor" the wretched lineage had constructed within the webway"

The "Far seer" pauses

"I hope you knowledge is vast enough to comprehend and understand the words I speak, I mean no offense, but I am assuming your knowledge of my people extends beyond our degenerate kin's memory of the fall and slaughter of our pantheon" He states dully, before he produces a noise similar to clearing his nose "But, returning to the tale of my personal misfortune, Lord Cearnarch deemed me worthy to face him in personal combat, and pridefully I accepted his offer. For, he had enticed me with a prize beyond any you could image, the liberation of my fellows soulstones and release to return them home to Kher-Ys' infinity circuit. It was a chance at redemption, a battle I could not lose. And in my arrogance, at this most key moment"

You bow your head in respect, and sorrow for the prisoner's tragedy.

"I failed, my head was cleaved from my shoulders, made into a drinking vessel. For a time, Cearnarch was content in leaving my soulstone fastened to the bottom of his cup, but soon grew bored of such mundane cruelty, and had it implanted into his tongue, like a barbaric jewelry, a piercing!" The farseer rages, more at himself and his failure than his captor's misdeeds and villainy "and there I languished for many Mon'keigh lifetimes, presumably"

"What a tragic tale" You wheep, brushing tears from your cheek with the back of your free hand and the sleeve at its wrist "I knew Cearnarch to be a villain, a nightmare incarnated, but I did not realize how depraved and cruel he truly was! I, who had beheld the contents of his heart and the very quality of his soul, was blind to the truth of his crimes! as I was blind to the suffering of the Aeldari, who I knew only as heartless raiders, forgive me for my ignorance"

"You are forgiven" The Aeldari answers, merrily, like an uncle to his child "but yes, my fate is a tragic one, and as you have slain my captor and murderer, I believe I can trust you to guard my essence. Though I have no doubt, many of my people would be too ashamed to even consider entrusting their existence to a Mon'keigh, I admit I admire you, oh liberator, for you have risen far beyond the primitive race my people knew. Or perhaps, that which they imagined to retain some sliver of pride since their fall"
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>>5020137

"It may be possible for me to return you to the physical realm, I have access and knowledge of methods that can allow the creation of new life untouched by a mother's womb, or a womb of flesh and blood at the very least" You say, correcting yourself lest Kanzeon takes offense by the terminology you choose to use, though you doubt she is listening to your thoughts consider her current mood "A man, be he human or Aeldari, does not deserve to be caged and isolated away from all others. Companion ship is a vital food for the soul, after all"

"I appreciate your generosity, mon'keigh, but cloning a souless simulacrum of my long decayed vessel would not work allow me to return to life as you know it. She who thirsts would swallow my soul the moment it was separated from this soulstone and that would be the end of me, for all of your power and mine, we cannot hope to rival a goddess" he states, his defeatism drawing your ire "It is truly kindly of you to even think to offer me such salvation, but alas, it is an impossibility"

"A self named goddess" You snarl, grimacing as you reject the belief such a being could be an existence comparable to a god when it is so evil hearted and wicked in nature "and, though it goes against my humble nature to boast, I have achieved what other men have named impossible many times, and stared those lords of hell's depths who styled themselves as gods down and denounced their existence and beliefs while looking into their eyes"

"There is a slim possibility it could be done, but us Aeldari have never achieved such a feat, and as mighty as you are, Liberator, I cannot help but doubt Mon'keigh to be capable of something my people have never managed to acomplish themselves" The farseer rebukes "I will remain in your care, but I will not risk my existence on a gamble"

"It is impressive to me you Aeldari can remain so conceited when you destroyed your empire and rendered your entire species endangered by excessive copulation and whimsical excesses" Kanzeon suddenly interjects, her voice heavy with disdain and Scathing mockery "I've examined your technology, consumed and integrated it into myself. What you believe is possible and what is not, is meaningless compared to what I! am capable of while working hand and hand with him! your savior! You should prostrate yourself before him and beg forgivness for calling him a Mon'keigh"

A silence so thick it could be cut with a dull knife falls upon this meeting of the minds

"W...who are you!?" The trapped Aeldari shrieks in confusion and outrage "You are certainly no Mon'keigh! Who are you to look down upon me and sneer so cruelly?"

"Who are you to speak to your elder in such a manner, Aeldari!" Kanzeon barks back "I survived the catastrophe caused by your people's excess, you should rejoice that I'd deign speak to you, rather than take offense for what I said!"
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>>5020139

The farseer sputters, trying to find a response in his vocabulary but finding himself unable to concoct or design a reply that did not come off as impudent or hubristic.

Guozhi laughs suddenly, tapping his walking stick on the cold ground

"As expected as mother Kanzeon!" He exclaims proudly, drawing away Kanzeon's attention away from the farseer cleverly, saving him from her scalding contempt. As expected of Grandfather Guozhi.

"What is she, may I ask?" The farseer asks, suddenly sounding afraid.

"My beloved" You answer simply

"My regard for you only grows, if you courted a being like her. Truly fate turns in strange ways" He mutters, thoroughly cowed.

You have to bite your tongue to keep yourself reflexively replying that Fate is the salve of fools.

What do you do now, Lieren?

>Introduce yourself to the Farseer properly, and ask for his name, and give him Kanzeon's.

>Debate with the trapped soul that you offer is possible, with careful application of Null Denouncement Charms, Wuxing, and you drawing away the attentions of Sie Nie. For if there is anything that could, it'd be you!

>Share the story of your encounter with Isha and your battles against wicked spirits to win the Aeldari's trust, and then ask if it'd be possible instead to contact his kinsmen.

>Apologize for Kanzeon's outburst, and promise to keep the Aeldari's soul well guarded but you other matters take precedence to his true salvation

>write in
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>>5020141
>>Introduce yourself to the Farseer properly, and ask for his name, and give him Kanzeon's.
>>Debate with the trapped soul that you offer is possible, with careful application of Null Denouncement Charms, Wuxing, and you drawing away the attentions of Sie Nie. For if there is anything that could, it'd be you!
>>Share the story of your encounter with Isha and your battles against wicked spirits to win the Aeldari's trust, and then ask if it'd be possible instead to contact his kinsmen.
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>>5020141
>>Introduce yourself to the Farseer properly, and ask for his name, and give him Kanzeon's.
>>Share the story of your encounter with Isha and your battles against wicked spirits to win the Aeldari's trust, and then ask if it'd be possible instead to contact his kinsmen.
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>>5020141
>Introduce yourself to the Farseer properly, and ask for his name, and give him Kanzeon's.
>Share the story of your encounter with Isha and your battles against wicked spirits to win the Aeldari's trust, and then ask if it'd be possible instead to contact his kinsmen.
>Debate with the trapped soul that you offer is possible, with careful application of Null Denouncement Charms, Wuxing, and you drawing away the attentions of Sie Nie. For if there is anything that could, it'd be you!
If he is so worried, it can be a temporary body so he isn't stuck on a soulgem until he gets back to his craftworld.
But it's probably going to be permanet, give that Kher-Ys is a lost craftworld.
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So, full body transplant?
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>>5020151
Support.

He doesnt want a body, so be it.
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Btw the dude's hilariously wrong about it not being possible since the Humonculus are straight up artifically creating Eldar in mass in commoragh. Or at least will be in the future.
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>>5020157
Wraithguard constructs as well.
Though that's trenches the definition of flesh.
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>>5020157
Oh I know.
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>>5020141
First
>>Introduce yourself to the Farseer properly, and ask for his name, and give him Kanzeon's.
Second
>>Share the story of your encounter with Isha and your battles against wicked spirits to win the Aeldari's trust, and then ask if it'd be possible instead to contact his kinsmen.
Then
>>Debate with the trapped soul that you offer is possible, with careful application of Null Denouncement Charms, Wuxing, and you drawing away the attentions of Sie Nie. For if there is anything that could, it'd be you!
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>>5020153
https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Kher-Ys
https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Heartslayer
Here's the place he is from, and the daemon that destroyed it.
Honestly, if he wants to be in an infinity circuit, he should contact our fangirl Farseer.
adding a
>Discuss with Guonzhi about the strange material and the spirit that helped him.
so he can bring up that the "spirit" looked like an eldar.
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>>5020141
>Introduce yourself to the Farseer properly, and ask for his name, and give him Kanzeon's.
>Share the story of your encounter with Isha and your battles against wicked spirits to win the Aeldari's trust, and then ask if it'd be possible instead to contact his kinsmen.

>Apologize for Kanzeon's outburst, and promise to keep the Aeldari's soul well guarded but you other matters take precedence to his true salvation
Write-in
>Ask him for advice regarding the upcoming war maybe even training if he would be so kind
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>>5020163
I figured you probably knew. Just was sharing it with the thread in general so everyone would know he's actually wrong about it. Heck Humonculi can actually revive eldar from the war in heaven in new bodies. So yeah reviving this dude is entirely possible. Now whether or not we can do it outside of the webway and without having that specific eldar tech is another story.
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>>5020153
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Kher-Ys
"Lost" is more of an understatement. More like "completely and utterly fucked."
>>5020157
>the Humonculus are straight up artifically creating Eldar in mass in commoragh.
The vatborn aren't all that, really. They suffer both from accelerated aging and from the need to sadomasochize more frequently.
>>5020165
Supporting the write-in.
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>>5020147
Not pictured is the Dragon that Lieren beheaded shortly before that.
Nothing says "I mean business" quite like a decapitated fairy tale monster.
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>>5020168
Remember Cearnarch's last words, before Lieren pulped his heart

>"Huh, suppose I shall be gambling with my soul far sooner than I expected" He muttered, slumping against your arm as he begins to weep and giggle like a drunkard "Mon-keigh, daemon, whatever you are. Should my gamble pay off, I will repay you for this shame. I swear it. Even if the stars cool and begin to flicker out I SHA..."
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>>5020141
>Introduce yourself to the Farseer properly, and ask for his name, and give him Kanzeon's.
>Debate with the trapped soul that you offer is possible, with careful application of Null Denouncement Charms, Wuxing, and you drawing away the attentions of Sie Nie. For if there is anything that could, it'd be you!
>Share the story of your encounter with Isha and your battles against wicked spirits to win the Aeldari's trust, and then ask if it'd be possible instead to contact his kinsmen.
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>>5020164
>Support
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>>5020177
Especially one that has been made into a murderous cyborg
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>>5020179
So the Haemonculi covens already have come up with the sarcophagi?
Cearnarch better have left enough slaves behind, because by what the farseer deacribed, he seens to be a very juicy target for daemons. It's going to need a lot of pain to mask his presence.
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>>5020141
>Introduce yourself to the Farseer properly, and ask for his name, and give him Kanzeon's.
>Share the story of your encounter with Isha and your battles against wicked spirits to win the Aeldari's trust, and then ask if it'd be possible instead to contact his kinsmen

>Write in
Ask if there is a way to contact his kin? Reaching out or some form of code?
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>>5020189
You'll see. Won't spoil anything
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>>5020198
Ah, I see.
Huli Jing and Cearnarch are going to team up to have their revenge, and we are going to have to fight an eldar hunter riding on top of a firefox.
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>>5020164
I'll take out the "if it'd be possible instead to contact his kinsmen" part so we still share our story.
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>>5020213
Well maybe you are now, cause that sounds metal as fuck
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>>5020141
> Introduce yourself to the Farseer properly, and ask for his name, and give him Kanzeon's.
That outburst was delightful, even if the cute scenes with the babes and tiger children are incredibly wholesome.

> Share the story of your encounter with Isha and your battles against wicked spirits to win the Aeldari's trust, and then ask if it'd be possible instead to contact his kinsmen.
It's only right that he knows what became of Divine Elf Mom. Who knows, the Eleventh Legion might find itself with allies against Chaos in the future.

> "Tell me, new friend; have you ever heard the name Arianka?"
GOTTA RECRUIT FOR THE MOON GODDESS! Also, since one of the other anons has brought it up before, this Farseer could help Lieren identify those benevolent entities who stand opposed to the Ruinous Powers.

>>5020147
It was an amazing moment of viciously cackling delight (for me) and awful pants-filling terror (for him), yes.
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>>5020221
>Eleventh Legion
Uh, anon?
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>>5020141
>>Introduce yourself to the Farseer properly, and ask for his name, and give him Kanzeon's.
>>Debate with the trapped soul that you offer is possible, with careful application of Null Denouncement Charms, Wuxing, and you drawing away the attentions of Sie Nie. For if there is anything that could, it'd be you!
>>Share the story of your encounter with Isha and your battles against wicked spirits to win the Aeldari's trust, and then ask if it'd be possible instead to contact his kinsmen.
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>>5020141
>Introduce yourself to the Farseer properly, and ask for his name, and give him Kanzeon's.

>Share the story of your encounter with Isha and your battles against wicked spirits to win the Aeldari's trust, and then ask if it'd be possible instead to contact his kinsmen.
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>>5020141
>>Share the story of your encounter with Isha and your battles against wicked spirits to win the Aeldari's trust, and then ask if it'd be possible instead to contact his kinsmen.
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>Debate with the trapped soul that you offer is possible, with careful application of Null Denouncement Charms, Wuxing, and you drawing away the attentions of Sie Nie. For if there is anything that could, it'd be you!


This is the Son Goku option.
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>>5020141
>>Introduce yourself to the Farseer properly, and ask for his name, and give him Kanzeon's.
>>Debate with the trapped soul that you offer is possible, with careful application of Null Denouncement Charms, Wuxing, and you drawing away the attentions of Sie Nie. For if there is anything that could, it'd be you!
>>Share the story of your encounter with Isha and your battles against wicked spirits to win the Aeldari's trust, and then ask if it'd be possible instead to contact his kinsmen.

Kazeon is right to call him like this, monkeigh is still an insult at the end. Though Lieren isn t the kind to be bothered too much by it.
Beside this though the farseer could still be put perhaps in a robot not to dissimilar to one used by the craftworlds eldars, though specialized for hold a psyker. Returning once more to reality would give us his favour, and his aid in the coming battle.
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>>5020141
>Introduce yourself to the Farseer properly, and ask for his name, and give him Kanzeon's.
>Share the story of your encounter with Isha and your battles against wicked spirits to win the Aeldari's trust, and then ask if it'd be possible instead to contact his kinsmen.
>Debate with the trapped soul that you offer is possible, with careful application of Null Denouncement Charms, Wuxing, and you drawing away the attentions of Sie Nie. For if there is anything that could, it'd be you!
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>>5020245
...Oh Jesus Christ.

I KNOW TERRIBER SHAME!
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>>5020635
Repent, ye sinner, for your transgressions.
Although, that does bring to mind a question.
If Malal's sacred number is 11, why, when given the choice, did he choose to fuck with the 2nd? The gods love their numbers. Morty had Nurgle's lucky 7 everywhere he could get it even before he was corrupted. What made Malal think differently?
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>>5020703
Malal hates himself, it's just that he currently hates everything else even more
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>>5020709
His number still holds significance though. When we were trying out that number-based fortune telling system, 11 predicted anarchy and an inversion of the other numbers.
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>>5020703
Opportunity.
It s in the start of the first thread.
Lieren wasn't watched upon as closely as the others due to the gods bickering on all the other pods, and Malal used the opportunity to go for him and direct him where he wanted (in Shangrila, a planet where the gods fought for gain it far far before Lieren arrival. Probably for the AI ships but there can be other reasons too), as well put some of his power with no ties in him (golden eyes, that are part of Lieren from the start). Thing is Malal plan is very random, and he was probably sure that Lieren wouldn't have been a champion of anyone but mortals, still Lieren defeated the gods demons and pawns on the world, and Malal was likely feeding on them upon their death from the shadows.
Malal was the first to acknowledge, primarchs have plans of their own and aren't just this new toys to take and fight over them like the rest of the chaos gods. In truth they are players of their own and quite dangerous.
Now Lieren has show to be a threat and a problem to all of them, even him. Still part of the plan of Malal, of fully returning in the warp like a leviathan of darkness, has been achieved. This part of his plan for kill all, was probably the most needed .... but not necessarily the most important. Otherwise he would have already act upon this.
Right now though with his power restored he probably has regained his demons, much like the other gods.
Now he will probably work on his plan, a good way for kill all is to create another big bang that can reach the warp as well, components like a god soul seem ideal for this. He has his own for start, but it's not enough. There is Arianka but Lieren has aided her, so she's not defenseless anymore.
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>>5020141
>Introduce yourself to the Farseer properly, and ask for his name, and give him Kanzeon's.
>Debate with the trapped soul that you offer is possible, with careful application of Null Denouncement Charms, Wuxing, and you drawing away the attentions of Sie Nie. For if there is anything that could, it'd be you!
Hoping the contact kin and attempt to con Slanaash out of a farseer soul are not mutually exclusive.
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>>5020141
>Introduce yourself to the Farseer properly, and ask for his name, and give him Kanzeon's.
>Share the story of your encounter with Isha and your battles against wicked spirits to win the Aeldari's trust, and then ask if it'd be possible instead to contact his kinsmen.
>Debate with the trapped soul that you offer is possible, with careful application of Null Denouncement Charms, Wuxing, and you drawing away the attentions of Sie Nie. For if there is anything that could, it'd be you!
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>>5020703
...What if 2 is the number of Harmony? Malal aka Chun Qiang represents pure discord, anarchy and endless chaos. Of course he would be opposed to that which may very well represent cosmic order and harmony.

Ying and Yang, water and fire, light and dark, life and death.
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>>5020141
>Introduce yourself to the Farseer properly, and ask for his name, and give him Kanzeon's.
>Share the story of your encounter with Isha and your battles against wicked spirits to win the Aeldari's trust, and then ask if it'd be possible instead to contact his kinsmen.
>Debate with the trapped soul that you offer is possible, with careful application of Null Denouncement Charms, Wuxing, and you drawing away the attentions of Sie Nie. For if there is anything that could, it'd be you!

Gonna ridicule the tails off Huli Jing while Kanzeon works her biomancy.
I'm looking forward to having a dick-ish eldar farseer as a foil to Lieren, constantly predicting how Lieren will fail and then being proven wrong.
Every.
Single.
Time.

It'll be like the opposite of the hyper-competent nameless architect/bureaucrat.
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>>5022047
I really want to find out who our assistant is, it's a mystery that's been going since the beggining of the quest.
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Calling the vote now. Sorry for the wait.

Introduce yourself to the Farseer properly, and ask for his name, and give him Kanzeon's.:17

Debate with the trapped soul that you offer is possible, with careful application of Null Denouncement Charms, Wuxing, and you drawing away the attentions of Sie Nie. For if there is anything that could, it'd be you!:12

Share the story of your encounter with Isha and your battles against wicked spirits to win the Aeldari's trust, and then ask if it'd be possible instead to contact his kinsmen.: 17
- don't ask if its possible to contact his kin: 1

Apologize for Kanzeon's outburst, and promise to keep the Aeldari's soul well guarded but you other matters take precedence to his true salvation:1

Ask him for advice regarding the upcoming war maybe even training if he would be so kind: 1

"Tell me, new friend; have you ever heard the name Arianka?":1

Discuss with Guonzhi about the strange material and the spirit that helped him.: 2

Total votes: 19

So Lieren will introduce himself and Kanzeon, Share his story of his encounter with Isha to Win the Aeldari's trust and then debate with him on whether or not his offer is possible.

Writing now

Sorry again for the wait

>>5020169
Exactly.Poor Eldar Got turbo raped
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>>5022478
>poor Eldar

LMAO, those knife ears did it to themselves, and they didn't even have the decency to die alone, had to mess it up for everyone else too.

Fuck Eldar
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And from the shock of dull pain, you realize you have been rather impolite yourself to the guest sitting in the palm of your hand. You've entirely forgotten to introduce yourself or ask for his name, despite it being proper etiquette to do so. Though such stifling social graces can at times restrict conversation and mundane interaction, it would still be rude to continuing thinking of this Aeldari as a liberated prisoner alone as it would be for him to know his savior only as liberator or the derogative Mon'keigh, though it is clear he means no offense with the usage of his epithet, so internalized it has become in his culture's world view. Like the Vishnu and their abhorrence of even the pettiest show of cowardice or treachery.

"Fate cannot dictate the path of one's heart" You state with unshakeable yet quiet certainty "Though I must apologize for even though you regard me highly, I have slighted you. I have neglected to introduce myself to you properly. An unforgiveable breach of conduct, so allow me rectify this folly of mine. The name I chose for myself is Lieren, meaning hunter in my native tongue, for it was the only epithet befitting my nature"

"How amusing, considering your triumph over the self styled heir of Kurnous" The farseer states, only the barest hint of humor revealing itself in the dulcet, wind like tones of his words "If such is the etiquette of my savior's culture, than I shall share the name most befitting my nature and humble ambitions, of those I possess. You may know me as Amaethon, which in the old dialect of the Aeldari tongue, can be roughly translated to the profession of farmer"

"How amusing, for I am also that. Hunter and Farmer, killer and nurturer in equal parts." You chuckles, as you feel Kanzeon's gaze return to you and Amaethon still laid upon your open palm "And she who turned her lashing tongue towards you, is named Kanzeon, sadly the meaning of it escapes me, perhaps she could answer you if you're curious"

"I am not"
"I wouldn't even I was programmed to"

You sigh through your teeth, tense silence falling as the farseer felt the weight of Kanzeon's presence as well, and Kanzeon for her part glowered at the gem containing Amaethon's trapped soul. Eventually however, she turned away, filling your thoughts with a burst of static bemoaning and complaining about the pride and vast egos of the Aeldari.

"Though, returning to our conversation beneath the watch of the ancient you have courted, It is not so strange that you embody both ideals. After all, Isha took Kurnous as her consort and thus was my people were born" Amaethon says to break the now awkward quiet, and in doing so, reminds you of your meeting with the spirit he speaks of

"Ah, I've met Isha the matron of Life once myself. Though I am ashamed to admit I was unable to free her from her bondage and miserable fate" You say without thinking.
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>>5022598
Amaethon immediately falls silent once more, and you can tell he's contemplating whether he should be offended or intrigued by what to him must seem the wildest of boasts.

"Though it may seem to be a fantastical delusion or cruel deception, I speak the truth. I have often done battle with wicked spirits and other denizens of the hellish depths of the Emperyan. And it was the third of these immaterial opponents that was dispatched to claim my life or my soul, a foul plague ridden creature that held such titles as the Keeper of rust and Warden of Life. A rotting, half mechanical aberration whose lord chose to be his champion when I, peered over the wall and viewed the sickening garden of his estate"

Still, Amaethon remains broodingly silent.

"Describe this garden to me, and the cage besides the plague father's side" He commands, voice filled with a dark conviction "And the maiden trapped within. Prove to me, this is no cruel jape or careless mockery of the one hope left to my dying race...Hunter"

"My eyes perceive the truth of all things, from the hearts of men to the winds of sorcery. That which is unreal yet potent enough in will or influence to confirm its own existence falls within my gaze, agony afflicts me as I struggle to perceive all that they are and that which these beings embody until my mind latches onto one vision of their vast forms" You explain quickly, moving from one spoken word to the next without pausing "and I come to understand all that they are, with blood weeping from my eyes upon the revelation. Isha, who lays still caged at Putrid Na Gou's side, appeared to me in many guises when I devoted all of my being in beholding her radiance"

Amaethon says nothing, allowing you to breath in and continue the brief recounting of your encounter with the cultivator of Life and Mercy.

"In her cage of tarnished gold and silver, she wept crystalized tears much like the gem that holds your essence, Wise Amaethon. Beneath my black, murderous rage, I felt at peace as I regarded her. Sweet, nectar and pollen scented winds pierced the miasma of decay and sickness. Her almond shaped eyes, hued of every color of living green amazed me with their brilliance, and then I was beneath her branches! A tree that reached high in the heavens, bearing blossoms of the warmest pinks and verdant greens! Then, I beheld a young girl many years from womanhood, draped in a dress of leaves and holding broken horns in her hands!"

Amaethon gasps, choking and wheezing as if your words have shot through him like a current of electricity.

"You wouldn't be able to tell if MY scholar was lying, Aeldari" Kanzeon chuckles smugly as you wait for the farseer to retain his composure before continuing your tale.

"Continue" He whispers, as quiet as an autumn wind snaking through reeds.

"Then, I stood upon the boundary of an endless fields of flowers and bubbling streams" You say merrily,

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>>5022602

A warmth returning to your breast as you remember the Matron of life's many faces, like remembering a mother that does not exist "A light, defiant against the dark took its place, before at last I clung to the final vision of her. A humble, yet immensely beautiful woman with hands and soles stained with fertile soil, exotic and alien blossoms blooming from within the strands of her pale golden hair. Like summer grasses"

"Yet your heart yearns for cold steel and thrumming machinery, for all your love of nature technology has claimed your love for itself and itself alone" Kanzeon bluntly jests, a twinge of jealously piercing her lovingly mocking words.

Amaethon pays her no heed, and sounds almost on the verge of tears as he raises his voice to whispers another request "And her captor, the beast you know as Na Gou! What of him, what did your divining eyes reveal to you of It!"

"The patriarch of all things foul and putrid? The Shepard of Viruses? He who cultivates decay and rust, the shepherd of viruses, He who tends to illness is to invite horrid death itself? To Merely look upon him stopped both of my hearts and filled me with a revulsion only two others were capable of inspiring within me" You snarl, eyes stinging from the memory of the Toad King's horrid visage and the deathly stench that surrounded him and all of his ilk "Gravemarkers for teeth, teeth revealed in its jovial grin beneath its genial eyes flecked with feculence and turned pale from pus. A beard of buboes and boils! And in my agony, I witnessed it's other masks"

"Yes? Yes?" Your audience demands "Go on! Go on!"

"Nothing but the absence of hope, the raw source of despair, desperation and fear. Then, a rotted mass of mold and fermented waste befouled my gaze, before it became a roiling horde of countless vermin and insects which vanished as my eyes accepted it and saw it" You say, pausing as you shudder with renewed revulsion and pain from the mere recollection of your encounter with Na Gou "A bloated devil dressed as a noble, holding a tea pot filled with the innards and bowels of plague victims and graced with a second maw that split his belly in train, out from which lolled a tongue infested with spiders and fungal slimes that reached to caress poor Isha's side"

there is no reply

"Do you wish for me to recount the vision of his garden? For I remember it well, for I have sworn to burn it to cinder and ash. That realm of despair and decay shall be torn down stone by stone for the crime of imprisoning an avatar of life and hope itself' You whisper furiously, anger reignited from your reflections of the past

"That will not be necessary, you have convinced me, Brave Hunter" Amaethon says, no longer speaking to you respectfully as his junior but instead reverently as an idol, you can hear the hope welling in his hushed words and feel the tears that want to fall from eyes that are no longer their "it is little wonder you could overcome Cearnarch"
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>>5022603

"if you could pry into Nurgle's garden and escape not only alive but unaffected by its innumerable blights"

"I peered into the garden, but I did not walk within it" You correct "And even then, it was so arduous a task to even behold it, I slept for days after I had won my battle against its master's champion"

"Even enduring the stench of the garden is a feat few if any mortals have survived, you speak knowledgeably and with such conviction I can only believe the truth of your tale" Amaethon says almost giddily, excited but yet shaken by the account of the imprisonment of his race's sole remaining patron and teacher, their mother "And it is by no means a easy to best a daemon beneath the gaze of their patron, tell me, how did you overcome this Keeper of rust?"

"I cut his infected blade in twain, having forced my will upon the transient reality of the battlefield and altering not only it by myself with the hope Isha inspired within me, for enduring her durance beneath the Toad King" You answer honestly and plainly "While the arena I made become the very garden of the heavens, I became its protector or perhaps its avenger, surrounded by wraiths I now recognize as the valiant dead of the Aeldari. I had become dressed in silver armor, roiling with sheets of ice and studded with gems of gold and blue ice set within every blossom carved upon it. In a crease torn in my armor and flesh, a shattered sword was driven and holding the flickering light of a dying flame beneath its bloodied surface"

You feel a twinge of pain between your twin hearts, but it soon passes and you resume your account of your victory over the ram skulled spirit.

"I Pulled it from my breast, the weak flames intermingling with the frost that crawled from my hands to form a razor's edge of ice and snow. A two faced mask formed upon my features as I tore the countless shards of the blade from my body. Ethereal ice held them together as the fading spark of hope was reignited into the blaze of conviction. The sword become a titanic scythe, with stars set upon its reaping blade. The blade was cut, and my control over the localized reality ended" You explain as if it were the most mundane of experiences "I mocked the enraged devil, and drew upon the rage of a dear friend of mine to overwhelm his ferocity, then using a psykerist Technique of my own design, I cloaked myself in the fires of my ever burning soul with which became the fangs I tore the spirit's throat with"

Amaenoth lets out a ragged breath, something between a chuckle and a wheeze.

"Then, I condensed my rage after enduring the devil's ferocious assault that followed, and crippled it with a cleaving strike to its wrists. Losing its already broken blade, I executed and banished the beast with a blast of the flaying energy of my spear, a charmed ribbon placed around its neck, and a charm hosting my will to burn its corporeal remains to ash. Accept for its skull, which I have locked away with its blade"

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>>5022605

There's a long, telling silence

"Until I can find a way to destroy both, of course" You say with a roll of your shoulders

"What...what are you?" The farseer questions "I know this account to be truthful, but it is daunting to accept that fact. What form of skill have you achieved to wield such esoteric powers with such mastery? If you were born an Aeldari, I am sure you're guidance would be sought after by all! Creating a field of altered and separated reality by the force of your will alone is a most impressive feat, almost terrifying. I have no knowledge of any psyker among either of our races who could even attempt to produce such a result without suffering such terrible strain they would risk the localized stability of the warp and their own existences! Incredible!"

"My brother Magnus is a stronger psyker than I" You humbly admit

"Vaul himself must have made the both of you then!" Amaenoth exclaims "And hid you away before the fall! How else would you mantle the power of a god shattered and not yet born?"

"I could not say" You answer dully "But I know this Vaul spirit had no part to play in my birth, or that of my Brother. I simply glamed a portion of enlightenment, and learned to wield the secret revealed to me hence"

"Humility is unbefitting a warrior and psyker of your abilities, Lieren" Amaenoth says reverently "No wonder you believe it possible to deny she who thirsts her prize, for opposed the dark gods directly before"

"That's an understatement, and the probability of such a procedures success would greatly increase if you explained the dynamics of how your soul would be taken?" Kanzeon states plainly

"It is the fate of all Aeldari, and the reason of my current predicament. We are doomed to be devoured by she who thirsts. Some of my wayward kin endure her constant predations by drinking of the suffering of other beings or other grim methods, but my people escape her hunger via the use of Soulstones, which trap our essence and minds at the moment of death. Upon the craftworlds, we have learned methods of implanting our dead into the infinity circuit for safe keeping, or wraithbone constructs..." The farseer explained sorrowfully, his words like the gentle chill of falling snow

Kanzeon lifts her head at the mention of wraithbone, her eyes narrowed with the same hunger she had when you presented her the Aeldari technology your looted from the host of the stellar hunt

"When times are truly dire" he continued on, not noticing your beloveds interest in his lecture "It would be possible, to return me to a material form, but you do, I am not certain you possess the knowledge and understanding to perform an operation, even if you were able to weave me a body from nothing"

"Not nothing, cloning requires a precise measure of organic materials components" Kanzeon corrects under her breath "And the gestation pods have to be calibrated for each template individually, nothing can be produced from nothing"
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>>5022607

You press your knuckles to your chin.

"Would it be possible then, to instead contact your kinsmen? Is there a coded phrase required to draw their attention?" You ask curiously

"Yes, unlike the possibility of you managing to deny She who thirsts my essence, it is certain my craftworld will reclaim me the moment they are called. Our lives are precious, for we are so few" Amaenoth answers "With guidance such a thing would be pose no difficulty, Though I am curious to meet your brother. A pysker as skillful as yourself admiring another for possessing far greater talent and raw power is...intriguing to say the least"

Kanzeon chuckles

What do you do now, Lieren?

>Attempt to contact Amaenoth's "Craftworld" with your sect's aid and his guidance

>Ask the farseer what he meant when he spoke of you "Mantling" two gods.

>Tell The seer you resisted all five of the self tilted gods of discord, protecting his soul from one would be an easy task by comparison. After all, it is your duty to protect the defensless

>Explain you aren't that skillful of a pysker, you were just blessed with a peculiar ability. If he wants to be impressed, he should watch Guozhi or Magnus in action

>write in
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>>5022612
>Attempt to contact Amaenoth's "Craftworld" with your sect's aid and his guidance

>Ask the farseer what he meant when he spoke of you "Mantling" two gods.

>Reach out to magnus before we attempt to contact the craft world. Our brother would love to learn from this exchange, and the dire warnings the alderi history portray.
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>>5022634
I support this. Letting magnus know shit is cool.
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>>5022612

>Explain you aren't that skillful of a pysker, you were just blessed with a peculiar ability. If he wants to be impressed, he should watch Guozhi or Magnus in action

>Attempt to contact Amaenoth's "Craftworld" with your sect's aid and his guidance

>Ask the farseer what he meant when he spoke of you "Mantling" two gods.
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>>5022612
>Attempt to contact Amaenoth's "Craftworld" with your sect's aid and his guidance

>Ask the farseer what he meant when he spoke of you "Mantling" two gods.
I don't think he mentioned this though.
>Tell The seer you resisted all five of the self tilted gods of discord, protecting his soul from one would be an easy task by comparison. After all, it is your duty to protect the defensless

>Explain you aren't that skillful of a pysker, you were just blessed with a peculiar ability. If he wants to be impressed, he should watch Guozhi or Magnus in action
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>>5022612
>Tell The seer you resisted all five of the self tilted gods of discord, protecting his soul from one would be an easy task by comparison. After all, it is your duty to protect the defensless
>Attempt to contact Amaenoth's "Craftworld" with your sect's aid and his guidance
>Ask more about this wraithbone, and let guonzhi talk about the spirit that helped us.
Well, time to show him he has no home to return to.
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>>5022641
>How else would you mantle the power of a god shattered and not yet born?"
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>>5022612
First
>Ask the farseer what he meant when he spoke of you "Mantling" two gods.
second
>Tell The seer you resisted all five of the self tilted gods of discord, protecting his soul from one would be an easy task by comparison. After all, it is your duty to protect the defenceless
third
>Reach out to Magnus before we attempt to contact the craft world. Our brother would love to learn from this exchange, and the dire warnings the alderi history portray.
finally
>Attempt to contact Amaenoth's "Craftworld" with your sect's aid and his guidance
we need to contact them eventually so they can pick him up.
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>>5022612
>Attempt to contact Amaenoth's "Craftworld" with your sect's aid and his guidance
>Ask the farseer what he meant when he spoke of you "Mantling" two gods.
>Explain you aren't that skillful of a pysker, you were just blessed with a peculiar ability. If he wants to be impressed, he should watch Guozhi or Magnus in action
>>5022634
Supporting reaching out to Magnus as well.

You know, with how well mannered and poetic Lieren is, on top of being a skilled psyker and hating the living shit out of chaos, I feel that Lieren could get along pretty well with Eldar. Hell, this is his second fan at this point. Wonder how Emps would feel about that.
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>>5022650
forgot to add
>requst Magnus assistance in contacting the Craftworld
I'm sure he would like to go on a "field trip"
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>>5022667
I feel like he would think it's a boon to have one of his more diplomatic sons to have contact and friendly relationship with them
at worse he wouldn't care unless they start shit.
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>>5022612

>Ask the farseer what he meant when he spoke of you "Mantling" two gods.
>write in
"Amaenoth a hypothetical for you, the Empyrean is a psycomutable place and being are born or memory, She whom thirsts was born in the Fall. I have a theory I would ask you to comment upon: Should we free isha within her heart and memory are the forms, faces and shapes of the other fallen Gods yes? With her escape a blossom of hope would bloom and from that awakening like before could Gods be born?"
[We technically have the pieces in place to reform the Aeldari Pantheon! For to bare a mantle suggests more of them survives than one thinks]

>Write in
Conntact brother Magnus for we have something he could help with scholar that he is! But also this information!

>Final Write in
Ask the Farseer briefly if there is a way in code to contact his Kin in the area?

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Come on lads contact the local Eldar so smug blind Farseer can dab on Elrad more
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>>5022674
We didn't mantle a dead god, we mantled Ynnead, the one that is going to be born when all of the Eldar dies and get his revenge.
And he already knows that more than one survived, he said that only tgre survived afterall. There's Isha that's imprisoned, Khaine that is split into shards and Cegorach that's a clown.
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>>5022478
>Poor Eldar Got turbo raped
When you say "got," do you mean in canon 40k or has it happened already in the Malalverse as well? The Forgotten War of Kher-Ys sounds like a cool (but entirely redacted) portion of the our legion's Crusade honor roll.
>inb4 "spoilers"
>>5022612
>>Attempt to contact Amaenoth's "Craftworld" with your sect's aid and his guidance
>>Ask the farseer what he meant when he spoke of you "Mantling" two gods.
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>>5022650
+1
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>>5022612
>>Attempt to contact Amaenoth's "Craftworld" with your sect's aid and his guidance
>>Ask the farseer what he meant when he spoke of you "Mantling" two gods.
>>Reach out to magnus before we attempt to contact the craft world. Our brother would love to learn from this exchange, and the dire warnings the alderi history portray.


>Write in
Ask the farseer for his friendship and since his craftworld meets with us, they would also meet with Long Jia (we are part of the empire after all). Telling them about a war against pawns of evil spirits could grant us tactical support. Slaying Nintya and his generals in one single strike by teleportation, could allow us to cripple the tyrant armies leadership and end the war easily.
And i think giving them back their farseer is enough of a favour.
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>>5022681
It would be canon in both cause the eldar fucked slaanesh into existence somewhere between M15 and M25, and the primarchs were made just prior to the great crusade which started around M30.
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>>5022755
I think he is asking if the Kher-Ys craftworld has already fallen, not that the eldar fucked up and created Slanesh.
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>>5022612

>Ask the farseer what he meant when he spoke of you "Mantling" two gods.
>Tell The seer you resisted all five of the self tilted gods of discord, protecting his soul from one would be an easy task by comparison. After all, it is your duty to protect the defenceless
>Reach out to Magnus before we attempt to contact the craft world. Our brother would love to learn from this exchange, and the dire warnings the alderi history portray.
>Attempt to contact Amaenoth's "Craftworld" with your sect's aid and his guidance


I know see why Kher-Ys was selected for his craftworld.

https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Kher-Ys
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>>5022781
>>5022755
>>5022681
Well craftworlds are massive, being as large as actual planets.
It stands to reason there could be survivors for all we know.
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>>5022612
>Attempt to contact Amaenoth's "Craftworld" with your sect's aid and his guidance

>Reach out to magnus before we attempt to contact the craft world. Our brother would love to learn from this exchange, and the dire warnings the alderi history portray.
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>>5022674
Ask him about Eldrad whom he mentioned earlier.
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>>5022612
>>Attempt to contact Amaenoth's "Craftworld" with your sect's aid and his guidance
>>Ask the farseer what he meant when he spoke of you "Mantling" two gods.
>>Tell The seer you resisted all five of the self tilted gods of discord, protecting his soul from one would be an easy task by comparison. After all, it is your duty to protect the defensless
>>Explain you aren't that skillful of a pysker, you were just blessed with a peculiar ability. If he wants to be impressed, he should watch Guozhi or Magnus in action
Sorry Malal but my answer is all of them.
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>>5022612
>>5022634
This. A chance for more information from a primary source? Magnus will literally kill for such a chance.
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>>5022612
>>Tell The seer you resisted all five of the self tilted gods of discord, protecting his soul from one would be an easy task by comparison. After all, it is your duty to protect the defensless
>>Explain you aren't that skillful of a pysker, you were just blessed with a peculiar ability. If he wants to be impressed, he should watch Guozhi or Magnus in action
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>>5022612
>Attempt to contact Amaenoth's "Craftworld" with your sect's aid and his guidance
>Ask the farseer what he meant when he spoke of you "Mantling" two gods.
>Tell The seer you resisted all five of the self tilted gods of discord, protecting his soul from one would be an easy task by comparison. After all, it is your duty to protect the defensless

I'm wondering if Guozhi's reincarnation would be useful.. but we would have to kill Guozhi to demonstrate this right? For that reason I don't want to recommend watching Guozhi's powers. His wraithbone staff would be an interesting topic for Kanzeon and Amaenoth though.

Instead
>invite Magnus and papa-E to the psychic conference call
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>>5023099
Guohzi's method reincarnation is just the natural cycle for all mortal souls.
The problem here is that every Eldar is linked to Slaanesh, so their souls are taken before they can enter into the cycle of reincarnation.
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>>5022650
>>5022612
Supporting
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>>5023099
Wraithbone is weird since it seems to be a racial exclusive to the Eldar and an inferior version of Vaul's wraithsteel.
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>>5022243
It's Erda.

>>5022612
> Ask the farseer what he meant when he spoke of you "Mantling" two gods.
Oh man, Lieren didn't tell him about the fight with bitch boi Belakor. I don't think there's an Eldar god of time, so clearly the Giant is progressing to 'mantling' the fundamental forces of the cosmos.

> Tell the seer you resisted all five of the self tilted gods of discord, protecting his soul from one would be an easy task by comparison. After all, it is your duty to protect the defenseless.
I wonder if Amaenoth is one of the few individuals remaining who can a remember that Malal didn't exist until Lieren's fantastic fuck up.

Also, supporting >>5022634
Gotta be workin' together with your bros, bro.
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>>5022647
by the way, Malal are we going to see the effect our mini journey has had on the second legion and those close to them (including other legions) anytime soon.
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>>5022793
Oh wow, we need to act. Saving an entire Craftworld will be a major stepping stone, those stones being Slaaneshes blue ball if we take their prize from them.
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>>5023303
>It's Erda.
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>>5023303
Can't be genderbent Erda, he hasn't sent the tiger children to the warp in a maniac episode.
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>>5022612
>Attempt to contact Amaenoth's "Craftworld" with your sect's aid and his guidance
>Ask the farseer what he meant when he spoke of you "Mantling" two gods.
>Tell The seer you resisted all five of the self tilted gods of discord, protecting his soul from one would be an easy task by comparison. After all, it is your duty to protect the defensless
>Reach out to magnus before we attempt to contact the craft world. Our brother would love to learn from this exchange, and the dire warnings the alderi history portray.
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>>5022612
>Reach out to magnus before we attempt to contact the craft world. Our brother would love to learn from this exchange, and the dire warnings the alderi history portray.
>Ask the farseer what he meant when he spoke of you "Mantling" two gods.
>Attempt to contact Amaenoth's "Craftworld" with your sect's aid and his guidance
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So if Kher-Ys is under attack how will we reach it?
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>>5024084
We don't know if it's pre-attack, being attacked currently, or already been destroyed. In terms of transportation, we have two options: Carpool with the Eldar who come pick Amaenoth up or have Kanzeon get herself out from under the mountain.
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>>5024090
at this point, I think the only help we can be if it's totally not already fucked is by loaning our psychic might and maybe astrally project ourselves.
Personally, I think it's already destroyed, especially since we'd had the soul stone for months and did noting with it.
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It was getting attacked?
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>>5024098
>especially since we'd had the soul stone for months and did noting with it.
Stuff like that's part of my impetus behind making the to-do pastebin. With all the shit that happens, it's hard to remember it all and prioritize. If Malal hadn't included "examine the soulstone with Guozhi and Kuan Im" as an option, it probably wouldn't have ever happened.
>>5024102
Maybe, we're not sure.
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Kher-Ys
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>>5024098
Gonna be honest man.
If us getting the soul stone is a timer for "the battle that lasts a few days to wipe out a planet sized star shipw with raoe demons" then I think that's pretty stupid.

Us being aware of the craft world is a more reasonable timer, since that actually has some impetus for us to get to it in a meta sense.
The stone being from Uthwe or some other long standing craft world would have made no difference to our thought patterns, since we know they will be around for a good while.
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>>5024105
If Malal hadn't included it as a option it would never win, even if there already had been a pastebin to te remind anons of what we need to do.
Take this very thread, people have already mentioned and linked Kher-Ys being deatroyed 5 times already, and there are anons that still don't k ow that the craftworld is danger.
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>>5024167
>even if there already had been a pastebin to te remind anons of what we need to do
I dunno about that. I'll post it in the next thread as close to the OP as possible if Malal doesn't include it himself. Hard to tell if it'll do any good yet since I made it 11 days after the thread went up.
>people have already mentioned and linked Kher-Ys being deatroyed 5 times already, and there are anons that still don't k ow that the craftworld is danger.
That's why I hope it gets included in the OP. More likely to get some traction if it's both there right off the bat and in a post by the QM.
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In other news I really want to study the warpstone and see what we can use them for.
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>>5024210
Maybe with Magnus new reasearch on containing Daemons and the warp, we can poke the rocks without risk.
Or we can accidentaly end up on the Great Horned Rat's realm and get a new mark on the tally board.
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https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Kher-YsOOOHHHHH We're going to fight an Avatar of Khaine and Loot a craftworld!

We should probably tell the soulstone to prepare his butthole.
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>>5024229
Even better idea, Channel/mantle Khaine against the possessed avatar.
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>>5024210
I do too. Magnus (and Pert once we meet him) would be good to talk to about such things.
>>5024226
>Or we can accidentaly end up on the Great Horned Rat's realm and get a new mark on the tally board.
The identity of the last three lords of the Heavenly Courts continues to drive me nuts. But I think it'd be funny if they were Mo'rcck, Phraz-Etar, and Ans'l.
>>5024229
Producing souls for Slaanesh to glut itself on is not in our best interest nor the interests of the galaxy at large.
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>>5024226
I would take either desu, I think we could wound The Rat before Dad has to come and save us.
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Calling the vote now. Very happy, managed to get a T1 golden core in amazing cultivation simulator at last.

Attempt to contact Amaenoth's "Craftworld" with your sect's aid and his guidance: 18

Ask the farseer what he meant when he spoke of you "Mantling" two gods.:18

Reach out to magnus before we attempt to contact the craft world. Our brother would love to learn from this exchange, and the dire warnings the aeldari history portray.:14
-And your father: 1

Explain you aren't that skillful of a pysker, you were just blessed with a peculiar ability. If he wants to be impressed, he should watch Guozhi or Magnus in action: 5

Tell The seer you resisted all five of the self tilted gods of discord, protecting his soul from one would be an easy task by comparison. After all, it is your duty to protect the defenseless:11

Ask more about this wraithbone, and let guonzhi talk about the spirit that helped us.:1

"Amaenoth a hypothetical for you...":1

Ask the Farseer briefly if there is a way in code to contact his Kin in the area?: 1

Ask about This Eldrad figure he mentioned: 1

Ask the farseer for his friendship and since his craftworld meets with us, they would also meet with Long Jia: 1

Total votes: 22

So You will ask the Farseer what he means by mantling, and tell him of your tribulation and how it is your duty to protect others, before reaching out to Magnus and attempting to contact this "Craftworld" Amaenoth hails from

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>>5023324
I'm very excited to write that actually, how a pre reunition legion would react to knowing their father is proud of them and receiving a piece of wisdom directly from him, and how the other legions would react to it. Just waiting for the right time. Thinking of another primarch cut away soon.

>>5023303
If Erda is ever appears/ is mentioned in this quest, assume GW had me killed and replaced
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Staring down at the soulstone resting in the exact center of your palm, a storm of questions, answers, and replies floods your mind each rushing to fill the void in its front. A battle for precedence in the well organized hall of conscious, your keen intellect yearning for new information like a frog in a drought. A small idea, almost petty in its scope, pushes its way to the fore of your thoughts. Magnus would be overjoyed to share in this unique learning experience and exchange of knowledge and wisdom between two races. Though he is an able warrior, he is more of a scholar at heart than even yourself or even the "Four Heavenly Geniuses" As Shan, Shirong, Cao Yunru and Tao Dandan have become known and renowned as. In the space it leaves behind, a gnawing curiosity takes its place, demanding an answer for something unfortunate Amaenoth said offhandedly without realizing the weight it would have against you.

That you had unknowingly Mantled two gods. A phrase which meaning you can easily deduce, but the concept yet escapes the grasp of true comprehension within the vast fields of your knowledge, like a hare fleeing from a fox.

"Excuse me for shifting the subject of our genial conversation away from your salvation, Farseer Amaenoth" You begin, speaking respectfully before an energetic curiosity overtakes your courteous tone "But a curiosity burns within my breast, you mentioned you believe I mantled two of the gods from your religions pantheon, could you clarify the meaning of that phrase and its implications?"

"Ah, well you seem to be a poetic soul. Think of it as donning a costume for a play, being an actor in a theatric performance. You disguise yourself as a separate entity, taking their role and acting as a stand in for them upon a stage striving to make the audience forget who you truly are, and see you only as the character whose guise you taken. Sha'eil, is a place where belief becomes reality and emotion carves the landscape as easily as any wind or torrent of water in the material plane" He explains merrily, clearly enjoying the chance to teach you "Thus, within its depths or in places where the veil between it and reality are thinned, it is possible to, through "acting" to take upon a sliver of another beings power, be they mortal or gods. Your ability to impose your will upon the immaterial realm, removes the necessity to "play your part", it would seem. Hence, when you drew upon the concept of hope as Embodied by Isha's perseverance, you took upon the mantle of the broken Khaela Mensha Khaine and the unborn Ynnead, perhaps symbolically as a source of hope yourself, knowing a few of her kin survived their slaughter or similar"

"Interesting, I possess another psykerist technique which allows me to draw upon the powers and skills of those I considered my dearest friends and closest compatriots" You say, pressing your knuckles firmly upon your chin
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>>5024467

"Then the concept of mantling needs no further explanation, for you already possess an incredible skill for it if you can so freely perform it" Amaenoth stated solemnly "I suppose now I may guide you in contacting my people, so I may be returned to them and tell of the fate of my subordinates and the death of the despicable Lord of the stellar hunt, whose name I refuse to utter again lest it immortalize his memory"

"Know, I endured the wrath of all five lords of hell, or Sha'eil, as your people know it, and survived Kong Nue's killing fury made manifest in boiling blood and flame" You reply emotionlessly, turning your hand to shift the soulstone's position in your palm "Guarding your soul against one alone would be an easy task in comparison. It is my duty to protect those who cannot raise arms to defend themselves"

"Come on Eldar, have some confidence in the man you've praised as your savior" Kanzeon purrs, eyes narrowed like a stalking panther towards the stone "His will is a force that cannot be measured nor calculated in its totality"

"I thank you for the offer of a corporeal body, but we Aeldari are too few to act recklessly. I was slain by my arrogance, as my ancestors fell because of theirs. Should it be possible to keep my soul from She who thirst's slavering maw, then I am the least deserving of such providence" Amaenoth answers sorrowfully "I would, if you are certain of your proposed methods, offer myself as a test subject to prove the opperations viability. Within the hearts of Kher-Ys and all other craftworlds, there exist thousands of souls more deserving a body of flesh, blood, bone and marrow. I have accepted my death and the choices that led me to it."

"How uncharacteristically humble of you" Kanzeon snorted, crossing her arms as she rested against the tree she sat beneath

"But, you must first devise a means to accomplish such a nigh impossible thievery. Stealing from the plate of a god, no matter how young is a momentous task for even their equals" He answered "And I sense a disdain for my kind within your needling, Ancient Kanzeon"

"You know exactly why that is" Kanzeon hiss ruefully "I am old enough to remember the empire your kind mourns, and to have survived the catastrophe they provoked"

"You are no man of Iron, so what are you then?" Amaenoth whispers, inciting Kanzeon to deepen her scowl into a grimace, retaining her beauty despite the contortion of her features "has humanity courted their own destruction anew?"

"Thank you darling" Kanzeon chirps happily, distracting her and Amaenoth from furthering their pointless argument spurned on by your beloved's grudge against the Aeldari for their conceit. And at least partially because she was kept from inspecting their advanced and arcane technology until you dragged it to her as a romantic meal.

"I cannot help but admire beauty when I witness it, beloved" You answer coolly, rolling the soulstone around your palm

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"And there is one last thing I must do, before you guide my hand in reaching out to your kin" You continue with a sly smirk curling across your lips to reveal your teeth "My brother would be overjoyed to learn from this exchange between races, and of the histories of your people"

"The brother you hold as more powerful than yourself?' Amaenoth asks plainly "I would be remiss to deny the aid of so powerful a psyker!"

You nod, and motion to Kuan Im, Cai and Guozhi, commanding them silently to join you in your meditations and the astral Journey to distant Prospero. Their assistance will expedite the process greatly.

"I'd love to meet him, myself" Kanzeon muses idly, as the process begins and the soulstone in your hands shine a brilliant shade of azure
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"I have not seen that look in your eyes, since we battled against the last great Psychneuein horde" Amon spoke suddenly, as Magnus turned through his latest grimoire, one he had just begun to put down his freshest knowledge and newest area of research to ink and other pigments. He lifted his eyes from the papayrus laid before him, a half sketched depiction of a spirit's internal anatomy screaming silently, withering if it was alive and experiencing the same agonies as the subject whose likeness the lord of Prospero had taken

"A storm can rise from the calmest of seas" Magnus mused as he pondered the most pertinent information to include in the diagram, one of many he had thus far included. A second spirit had come when he had learned all that could be taken from his first subject, it was bestial and mindless, but still worthy for research. A beast can reveal much of the civilization it exists outside of, after all, from its habits and predations

"You've found something to hate, after realizing the truth behind my warnings" His once teacher quietly stated, though he needed no confirmation for that belief. Magnus nodded his head slightly, and motioned for a scribe to bring to him a particular organ he was able to bring back safely from the great sea, now safety contained in a warded jar for further examination. It was a peculiar devise, of his own design. One capable of bolstering an immaterial beings existence within the materium, allowing them to maintain a continued presence or as Magnus used it, to preserve their component parts for deeper study, to expand his research beyond the arduous task of dissection

He tapped his fingers upon the psionically fortified glass, watching the leech like organ wither within the clear alcohol surrounding it, reflecting upon his recent avenue of research. And the encounter he had in his last jaunt into the wild seas. Where he had a most comforting and relieving meeting with a spirit, proving both his and his brother's belief of their existence. A creature of ice and order, marching alone seeking a creator who it knew to be trapped. It held a blade of golden flame, which drew him to it to begin with

The memory brought a smile to the red giant's expression
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>>5024473

The entity was cordial and even helpful, though Magnus had met it cautiously before he was certain of its intent,

"If only I had my brother's eyes" He lamented "For all of my power and knowledge, the gift of seeing the truth of all existence, the reality hidden away is a boon beyond even the near limitless worth of my vast abilities"

"From the few meetings I've observed between the two of you, he would find a home easily upon Prospero" Amon said simply, with a fatherly smile and bow of his head, keeping his eyes tellingly averted from the notes Magnus kept

And as if summoned by their discussion of him, the chime that reacted to Lieren's spiritual presence rang out.

Magnus carefully placed the preserving jar back into its warded chest, and bolted the door to his chambers with a twitch of his finger, the physicals and arcane protections and locks upon its activating the moment he roused his will.

In a moment, he beheld the great sea, his perceptions widening until he found the beacon that followed his brother's soul. The heat that rouse from his perpetually enflamed soul. He was kneeling, surrounded by his own students whose presence was dim compared to that of the brother Primarchs and that of the silently observing Amon.

"Greetings, Lieren" Magnus said, as his brother's avatar lifted his head "Have you come to debate, seek my guidance, join in my continued research, or perhaps you've come to discuss the more mundane happenings of our lives? I was in the middle of preserving my wisdom"

"An admirable labor, to be sure. But I come for none of those things, fair brother of mine. Rather, I have come to present you the opportunity to gain otherwise unobtainable knowledge. I could think of no better gift to give in thanks for your loyalty and friendship, Magnus" Lieren state joyously, smiling as he noticed the shift in Magnus' expression, the joy flickering through his ever changing eyes and the widening of his smile "For a seeker of knowledge and truth, a chance to learn is greater than any fortune "

"How right you are, Lieren. What an unexpected gift" Magnus replied, showing his gratitude in his posture and with subtle gestures of his hands "Though one greatly appreciated, though from a quick observation of your thoughts that is not the only reason you've contacted me. There is cause besides granting me this rare opportunity. You desire my experience, you need my assistance"

"As sharp as ever, dear brother" Lieren admitted, bowing his head and grinning ear to ear like a predatory cat "allow me to explain the situation I've found myself in, and the task I've taken because of it"
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Farseer Carys knelt alongside her congregation before her peers amongst the leadership of Craftworld Kher-Ys, one of few that dared to tread so near the eye of terror, within the region of space known to humanity as "Segmentum Obscurus"
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>>5024474

"Farseer Carys of Ulthwé, we have permitted your presence aboard Kher-Ys in good faith, as a temporary passenger to prepare for your journey further into this cursed territory" One of them spoke, with a similar tone to her superior, Eldrad. Solemn, morose and grave "We have not, however permitted you to act in this addled manner you have shown, most unbefitting of a farseer."

She was like Eldrad in more than Tone

"Yes" An older, male farseer interjected "Your mischief, and emotion filled preaching has disrupted what little peace our already troubled people can foster. A moment of weakness may herald doom for all the souls, living or dead, within the craftworld. Even as well informed as you are, of the constant danger at our door, you chose to, childishly, cause a ruckus in pursuit of a yet unknown objective"

Carys lifted her head wearing an expression of annoyance

" A merely satiated stomach is much more pleasant than one filled to bursting, the love of a single partner more fulfilling than the touch of many, Understanding brings more peace to one's soul than bloody revenge" She whispered, turning her blind gaze towards one of the Autarchs attending the hearing to determine her punishment for "trouble making"

"If you had spoken verses akin to that from the primitive Mon'Keigh cult you have been misled to follow, there would be no issue" Another Autarch stated, as his fellow looked into Carys' eyes and turned his head.

She could see the desire wafting about him, not his own. Remnants from another. A family member or close friend. A dangerous yearning. A weakness like so many others she spied within the hearts of the ever wary residents of Kher-Ys.

They courted death. They courted a fate worse than death by their chosen wandering grounds. Yet, here they gathered, to condemn her to a punishment however light for merely spreading the teachings of the Eightfold path turned inwards and denounced. Teachings, which when combined with those of the paths, silenced the whispers of the daemons clawing at Kher-Ys' warpgate. Though, one voice pierced the shield placed over her mind by faith and training.

The scream of a skinned beast, shrieking and sobbing in the winds.

Carys closed her perceptions off from the bickering of the council of judges. One of her fellow adherents of the the Eightfold path turned inwards and denounced adjusted their posture to be more comfortable, or perhaps moved to answer a query directed towards them. She wasn't paying attention, she was meditating, communicating telepathically with those few who still considered her a friend back on Ulthwé

Then she spotted it, emerging from Sha'eil's depths

A familiar light, joined by another that matched it in its brilliance, or even surpassed it.

She heard one of the farseers, the younger female, gasp as her mind was touched by the silver and gold tongues of the ever burning flame.
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>>5024478

"At last" She hissed through her teeth as she rouse "A chance to meet the idol of my supposed "Worship"

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"I am no spirit, I approach as a friend" You said kindly, as you suddenly stared at a hall of gathered Aeldari, most of whom looked frightened, though a few appeared jubilant, one so greatly so they were hopping up and down like an excited child. You could sense a great quantity of gather malevolent "I am Lieren of Shangrala, and I have been bided to contact you by one of your own, who has been released from his durance beneath the foul lord Cearnarch"

"And I am Magnus of Prospero, observing this meeting and aiding in retaining contact between both parties" Your brother stated simply "there is no need to react with hostility, both of us, myself especially, are experienced and potent psykers. Meet us genially and there shall be no danger brought upon by this conference"

"An ever burning entity and one that ever shifts expects us to believe their words! The wards have been!" the one who was unfortunate to serve as the initial anchor wails before she is silenced by the others, who remained guarded and posed to defend themselves at a moments notice, some had already began to shield themselves and others with psionic prowess unmatched by any except Guozhi, Magnus, and his students

"You hold a soulstone? how did you know to contact us?" Another questions "And how do we know you to be speaking the truth, let alone have good faith in approaching us, surely if you were able to divine the origin of the soulstone's former wearer and know its function, you would approach us physically rather than psionically! Which, would be impossible for any besides our kinfolk"

"I talked to him, his name is Amaenoth if you require proof" You answer dully, now realizing why Kanzeon disdains the Aeldari

"You could have stolen the knowledge from his entrapped mind!" Another calls out "A stranger cannot be trusted, especially considering our present location"

"YOU DARE ACCUSE ME OF TREACHERY!" You snarl, unleashing the chill winds of your heart of moonlight "I approach, as a friend, seeking to return a lost compatriot to your arms"

"Calm yourself Mon-keigh" A more experienced and eldar Aeldari, dressed in armor and clothes unlike the warry farseers says, having been silent with his fellow elders in his careful study and consideration of your presence and revealed essence.

Frost coated the grounds and walls of the hall they were gathered

"You must excuse our paranoia, we do not expect to find kindness amongst the stars, let alone to hear of an outsider who not only knows of our ways but seeks to return one lost to us" He said calmly, wincing as you turned your attention to him and studied him in turn "If you truly possess Amaenoth's soul stone, tell me how it fell into Cearnarch's hands"
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>>5024481

"An ambush he told me, he fought to free his followers from his possession and was sadly slain in the fateful duel, he was pierced to his tongue for a period of time he is uncertain of. He was on pilgrimage, following a" You say, pausing to keep yourself from cringing "Prophecy"

"If it would help our case, I can recite the coordinates of the planet he was waylaid upon, and its name if you would cease insulting us" Magnus said sternly "and accusing us of being your enemies. My brother is doing this out of simple generosity, It would be wise not to spurn him or rouse either of our anger

"And why are you burning? That is hardly a trait of a mon..human's soul" the elder Aeldari questions "Though you have shown that you do not draw upon Chaos' power, you could still be befouled by its taint"

"Actually I've been curious of that as well, Brother. I have several theories but will admit that without your physical presence it is impossible to determine which, if any of them are correct from mere observation" Magnus said simply

The lesser farseers, cowed by your show of force and Magnus' subtle threat, remain silent as their betters speak with you.

"That is not important, I've contacted you to return Amaenoth to his home. I do not care if you do not believe me, or sneer down at me past your noses, or expect some scheme or deception. As my brother has so helpfully explained, I do this because generosity is one of the most virtuous acts a man can commit, The only recompense I expect, is"

"for you to answer MY questioning" Magnus answered bluntly

"Wait a second" the envoy says, turning his gaze to the excited Aeldari still hopping up and down is place "Those words, I've heard them before! You're the leader of the...movement Carys has joined!"

"The Journey has reached beyond Shangrala and Terra?" You say, your intrigue overcoming the seriousness of the situation

There's a pause, and you can clearly see the envoy is both amazed and disappointed by your answer

"No matter, if all of what she preached has come from your mind, then I believe we can risk trusting your word, if only because the majority of what she has said does endanger one's mind to the temptations of chaos" He said sharply "We will send a party to retrieve the Amaenoth's soul stone, to remove any risk posed to the craftworld in trusting the word of a...outsider as bizarre as yourself. When they return, we will answer a number of questions decided at the moment of retrieval. Is this arrangement acceptable? Time is of the essence"

One of the farseers shuddered

"How fascinating...your mind is structured entirely differently than a humans" Magnus whispered "Forgive the intrusion, the subtle and obvious difference in mind and soul between our species greatly intrigued me. As expected of a race of psyker, the neural pathways were evolved and specialized to..."

"Such curiosity is dangerous m...human"
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>>5024484

You cannot help but recognize the similarities in the look in Magnus' eyes and that of Cai's when he studied a corpse of a man felled by a curse. You are certain he means no harm, but, it is still unsettling to see from a man as friendly as himself.

How do you answer, Lieren?

>Accept the terms, and give them the location you've prepared for just this purpose and p

>Deny the terms, demand to be brought aboard their craftworld personally to meet this Carys, who they are clearly keeping imprisoned! If they refuse, remind them they cannot stop you. Especially since you would be backed by all of Long-Jia's might and Kanzeon

>Request Carys and her followers be allowed to accompany they party as well, and suggest that they court death from being so wary of others. Unity is strength, after all

>Warn the Aeldari that your world is beset by the same forces they fear. A small party may be at risk of being waylaid by wicked spirits.

>write in
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>>5024493
>>Request Carys and her followers be allowed to accompany they party as well, and suggest that they court death from being so wary of others. Unity is strength, after all
>>Warn the Aeldari that your world is beset by the same forces they fear. A small party may be at risk of being waylaid by wicked spirits.
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>>5024484
>"No matter, if all of what she preached has come from your mind, then I believe we can risk trusting your word, if only because the majority of what she has said does endanger one's mind to the temptations of chaos" He said sharply "We will send a party to retrieve the Amaenoth's soul stone, to remove any risk posed to the craftworld in trusting the word of a...outsider as bizarre as yourself. When they return, we will answer a number of questions decided at the moment of retrieval. Is this arrangement acceptable? Time is of the essence"
>One of the farseers shuddered
>"How fascinating...your mind is structured entirely differently than a humans" Magnus whispered "Forgive the intrusion, the subtle and obvious difference in mind and soul between our species greatly intrigued me. As expected of a race of psyker, the neural pathways were evolved and specialized to..."
>"Such curiosity is dangerous m...human"

Man this behaivor out of Magnus is kind of dangerous. Might want to have a talk about that.
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>>5024502
I wouldn't worry about it.
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>>5024499
I will support.

But also add
>Admonish Magnus for going inside their heads so forcefully and without permission. It is the height of rudeness
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>>5024502
nah gorillaman did essentially the same thing in canon and hes still not a chaosfag, should generally be alright. Future elf fucker, perhaps, but chaosfag, probably not.
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>>5024493
>>Warn the Aeldari that your world is beset by the same forces they fear. A small party may be at risk of being waylaid by wicked spirits.
>Accept the terms, and give them the location you've prepared for just this purpose and p
>tell them about our book the Journey and how it has a harmful effect on the forces they fear, they can recite it to repell any daemons they come across.
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>>5024507
and by that, I mean, remember when Lieren met his first Eldar and dug around its mind telepathically? That produced much more than the shudder magnus evoked in his study.

Though the methods aren't the same. Magnus observed while Lieren broke in
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>>5024493
>>Request Carys and her followers be allowed to accompany they party as well, and suggest that they court death from being so wary of others. Unity is strength, after all
>>Warn the Aeldari that your world is beset by the same forces they fear. A small party may be at risk of being waylaid by wicked spirits.
Of all the things I expected from Carys, being an adherent of the Journey was not one of them. As for the next primarch interlude, my money's on Lorgar, with Kurze and Sanguinius tied for second, and Angron as the dark horse in 3rd place. Maybe Cearnarch was the leader of the eldar who tried to spawncamp him?
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>>5024519
tbf in that case Leiren was dealing with noted enemies.
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>>5024533
Yeah, and he also felt guilty about it. But, point is, Magnus only caused unease by standing before the theoretical fortress, observing/ admiring its construction

While Lieren assaulted and tore it down to figure out how it was built and take what was inside. But that was necessary at the time, and he did as little damage as he could, since he abhors cruelty
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>>5024540
Oh right. Then really nothing to get upset about. I retract my astonishment.
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>>5024545
Really, surprised that raised eyebrows instead of Magnus dissecting daemons and preserving their organs in Magic Canopic Jars. Kind of amusing.
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>>5024549
Technically, IC we dont know of it yet, do we.
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>>5024554
no we don't and honestly there's not much wrong with that desu? Beyond the fact it might cause issues if someone gets ahold of them that shouldn't.
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>>5024554
Yep.


>>5024523
Anyone else wanna place bets?
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>>5024493
>Where he had a most comforting and relieving meeting with a spirit, proving both his and his brother's belief of their existence. A creature of ice and order, marching alone seeking a creator who it knew to be trapped. It held a blade of golden flame, which drew him to it to begin with
Ah this is good, the soldiers of Arianka have return and march in the empyrean. Even if outnumbered, they are still an ally for the mortals and they can still find refuge in many parts of the warp if they risk to be killed.


>Accept the terms, and give them the location you've prepared for just this purpose and p
>Request Carys and her followers be allowed to accompany they party as well, and suggest that they court death from being so wary of others. Unity is strength, after all
>Warn the Aeldari that your world is beset by the same forces they fear. A small party may be at risk of being waylaid by wicked spirits.
>write in
"Me and my brother alongside our disciples and masters, will help the party you will send in the daring travel to reach my world. Still even with that done, i must inform you that the empire of my people will soon fight against pawns of the wicked spirit of blood and war, one of the lords of hell, the enraged murderous worm that thinks of skulls as cups and blood as wine. This pawns are well armed with ancient technology more than my people, and will likely fire upon you if they can see you approaching. Thus unless you want to suggest to join forces in a combined strike for defeat them and put an end to their tyranny, it's best if you follow my instructions and land in my home region."
"But if you would like to make such suggestion, you would do us a great favor. And we wouldn't forget such kindness and with this done yet another tyrant in my world would die, allowing me to at last reach the freedom and prosperity i desire for all the men, women and children's living on my world."

The journey is spreading even to aliens that's really nice. Diplomacy can be easier now.
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Tbf Kanzeon forceful looked into the minds of other humans upon meeting them.
>>5024523
Honestly with what has been achieved with the Journey I'd be surprised if they didn't. Seriously adherents have unified against chaos cultists, resisted torture by Slaanesh cultists, purified themselves of chaos corruption, caused a civil war in a Chaos controlled nation by introducing the Journey (though we should check to see if there any in hiding). This isn't even including Carys achievement of resisting Slaanesh though using Lieren is cheating. All that's left is killing a daemon with words alone.
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>>5024493
>>5024563

Oh shit I forgot about that. Yeah better warn them about that.
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>>5024563
I'm super curious to know what Daddy make of this news.
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>>5024493
this has my support, tho. >>5024563
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>>5024493
>Request Carys and her followers be allowed to accompany they party as well, and suggest that they court death from being so wary of others. Unity is strength, after all

>Write in
"Carys I believe it was, I am touched you have taken my words to heart it warms me to know they reach so far. Thank you for such a rare joy."

>Warn the Aeldari that your world is beset by the same forces they fear. A small party may be at risk of being waylaid by wicked spirits
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>>5024561
I'll put 5 Thrones on the next one being Lorgar, though he'll never know we might get purtarabo as a dark horse would he witness the birth of the fifth God given he can see the eye of terror
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>>5024493
>>5024563
I will support the votes, and the write in.
I'm not sure they will accept, but they might at least get a good impression from us fighting chaos cultists.

>>5024549
For what it's worth I was pretty worried about that, but then Magnus has grown more cautious with warp bullshit, so I'm gonna trust him not to go overboard for now.

You know, considering how Kher-Ys fell because of a Keeper of Secrets sneaking in under disguise, Lieren is PERFECT for saving this Craftworld from destruction. As long as we somehow get on board at the right time and manage to take a glimpse of the fucker.
Either way, between Lieren and Slaanesh, someone is gonna walk away hating someone more then ever before.
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>>5024563
supporting
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>>5024561
my money is on Kurze we have kind fucked fate up on some (even if small) level that got to be messing with his future vision (or at least any visions that involve us).

My second bet would be Lorgar. Kor Phaeron got to be freaking out and Lorgar might pick up on that plus the reawaking of two chaos gods. Inb4 he starts worshipping Arianka
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Eldari arrogance shall be defeated and set right by Leiren- Self-help guru extraordinaire?
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>receiving a piece of wisdom directly from him, and how the other legions would react to it.
Imagine "corrupting" the Word Bearers before Lorgar even knows they exist.
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>>5024493
>>5024563
Support
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>>5024493
>Accept the terms, and give them the location you've prepared for just this purpose and p
>Request Carys and her followers be allowed to accompany they party as well, and suggest that they court death from being so wary of others. Unity is strength, after all
>Warn the Aeldari that your world is beset by the same forces they fear. A small party may be at risk of being waylaid by wicked spirits.
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Am I the only one that suspects the Night Haunter to be an affliction of Chun Qiang/Malal?

Also, I'm totally envisioning the 'Knights of Frost and Flame' as akin to little Jyggalag's. I wonder if Eldrad and any of the others have noticed the literal mustering of a long scattered army yet?
> inb4 Arianka shows favor to the Crusader fleets
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>>5024493
> Request Carys and her followers be allowed to accompany they party as well, and suggest that they court death from being so wary of others. Unity is strength, after all
> Warn the Aeldari that your world is beset by the same forces they fear. A small party may be at risk of being waylaid by wicked spirits.
> Offer to show them the designs for Null Denouncement wards and charms you've devised. They may not trust humans, but Chaos is the enemy of all who live, regardless of species.
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>>5024815
Supporting giving the charms.
Handing them out to everyone we meet is probably going to bite us in the ass in the future, but tge future is not today.
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>>5024820
I can't really see giving away such knowledge freely as costing Lieren or humanity anything beyond bare monetary value. The expensive physical materials of their construction, using things like jade and precious jewels, is only because the wards themselves have to survive exposure to malicious psychic energies. Eldar already have some effective wards of their own, but those tend to rely on the power of each seer and their respective cabal/coven.

The Marks of Chaos and each individual God are already pretty prolific. Meanwhile, hexagrammatic wards are usually restricted to the Inquisition and those with an abundance of wealth and power like Rogue Traders. We're just looking to fill that gap.
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>>5024828
>>5024820
>>5024815
My question that's been burning ever since we discovered it: Why didn't the Emperor spread Null Denouncement wards all over his Empire? Was there a downside?
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>>5024834
Probably something to do with the imperial truth. Imagine how it would look if the emperor told everyone "put this shit on everything" and when someone ask why he tells them not to worry about it.
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>>5024834
Wasn't Null Denouncement Script based on the wards The Emperor placed on Lieren's gestation pod?
If so, it stands to reason that he has wards in place already that are just as good, if not better, than Null Denouncement seals.
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>>5024828
I was thinking of either there being some downside of it being overused, or it being so present that the daemons or cultists find a way arund it out of nescessity and catch people completly off guard.
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So, when Lieren eventually gets to Terra, Big E is probably gonna ask him to cover his Daemonic Brand, lest the populace start asking questions or tattooing it on their foreheads.
I think a silk headband with a Null Denouncement Script print would work fabulously AND keep with Lieren's Chinese hunter aesthetic.
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>>5024813
>Am I the only one that suspects the Night Haunter to be an affliction of Chun Qiang/Malal?
Konrad/Night Haunter is all about law, or perhaps more accurately, the prevention of crime. Malal, being the God of Anarchy, won't have a ton of draw to him. Only way I can see Konrad going malalic is that if he gets mindbroken to the point of thinking that all societies inevitably become lawless hellholes and that the only thing to do about it is destroy them invariably, inadvertently sowing even more discord.
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>>5024871
Given that Malal is actually present in this timeline, I could totally see that happening.
Every Chaos God gets their own Primarch after all, and Konrad seems like just the miserable yet singularly focused asshole that Malal would want. Him or Perturabo, for many of the same reasons.
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>>5024481
>great quantities of gathered malevolence

We should investigate this. Either we learn about the Eye or we see the demon.

SEE

THE

DEMON.

ATTENTION GRABBING TEXT
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>>5024909
>Support because of write-in.
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>>5024907
>Given that Malal is actually present in this timeline, I could totally see that happening.
In canon 40k Malal (or rather Malice) is present, canon, and active through his warband. Malal in-universe being trapped in limbo and unable to interact with the setting in any meaningful way is unique to the Malaverse and sort of a meta in-joke.
>Every Chaos God gets their own Primarch after all
Arguably, he already has one in Lieren.
>or Perturabo
Pert is far too autistically structured to become a disciple of Malal. The Twins, I think, are more likely. They enjoy sowing Chaos in a manner similar to Konrad but also destabilize governments and societies even pre-Heresy. And there's already themes of dualism with them.
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>>5024493
>>Accept the terms, and give them the location you've prepared for just this purpose and p
>>Request Carys and her followers be allowed to accompany they party as well, and suggest that they court death from being so wary of others. Unity is strength, after all
>>Warn the Aeldari that your world is beset by the same forces they fear. A small party may be at risk of being waylaid by wicked spirits.

>>5024563
Support
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>>5024563
Supporting
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>>5024493
>Accept the terms, and give them the location you've prepared for just this purpose and p
>Warn the Aeldari that your world is beset by the same forces they fear. A small party may be at risk of being waylaid by wicked spirits.
>Request Carys and her followers be allowed to accompany they party as well, and suggest that they court death from being so wary of others. Unity is strength, after all
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>>5024916
It would be fitting if the two Primarchs that most people aren't even sure exist were the Daemon Princes of Malal.
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>>5024563
>>5024990
also I would like to add my support to this write in
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>>5025048
Indeed. And the ones that are paradoxically the beginning/first and end/last. There's also the possibility that we're gonna get something Malalic with our 11th brother though.
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>>5024563
support
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>>5024563
support
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>>5024563
Also to everyone voting this you do realize what Eldar are like right? They're one of the most arrogant and selfish lot you'll find, good luck convincing to help you.
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>>5025273
The write-in econony has to be stimulated, otherwise we might suffer a recession.
Also we are just asking for help, not demanding it. Maybe we can spin it as proving their superiority over these primitives or something.
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>>5024811
Decided I would add a bit more to my previous vote.
> Offer to show them the designs for Null Denouncement wards and charms you've devised. They may not trust humans, but Chaos is the enemy of all who live, regardless of species.
>Mention the great quantities of gathering malevolent qi and investigate if possible.
I'm 99% sure the eldar will rightly consider Lierens null denouncement charms as babies first chaos countermeasure but maybe there will be some bits and pieces they will find useful, even if only for the local eldar.
Also I realized something is deeply wrong here after that one anon pointed it out, something beyond just being close to the eye.
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>>5025302
Canon Kher-Ys were conceited as fuck despite having very real evidence on their doorstep of what such arrogance cost their forebears. Like, holy shit. Even Asdrubael motherfucking Vecht must've cringed.

While they weren't depraved like the Drukhari, I think the incredibly rigid lifestyle they adopted, while still remaining haughty jackasses, are what led to the Autarch's daughter getting wooed by a daemon; so goddamn bored and naive that she had no idea of how resist temptation because her father's generation thought they were hot shit.

It's also worth noting that just being anywhere near the Eye does fucking weird shit; temporal anomalies, overlapping events both real and imagined, whole star systems being occluded by Warp fuckery. The list goes on and on.

>>5024907
You gotta admit; an emo/death metal Primarch with horrific conflicting DID is absolutely Malal's kinda jam.
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>>5025273
Then we can at least say we tried.
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>>5024478
>They courted death. They courted a fate worse than death by their chosen wandering grounds. Yet, here they gathered, to condemn her to a punishment however light for merely spreading the teachings of the Eightfold path turned inwards and denounced. Teachings, which when combined with those of the paths, silenced the whispers of the daemons clawing at Kher-Ys' warpgate. Though, one voice pierced the shield placed over her mind by faith and training.
>The scream of a skinned beast, shrieking and sobbing in the winds.
I'm curious who this is. Is it that Slaaneshi daemon we kicked the shit out of a while back?
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>>5025402
I completely forgot Slaanesh skinned her.
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>>5025402
Yep, that's Huli Jing. We'll have a vested interest in defending/avenging Kher-Ys if she's involved.
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>>5025420
She's in the craftworld already???
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>>5025751
Not inside, she is probably together with other slaneshi daemons trying to tempt the eldar patroling the silver river in the webway.
That's how the heartbreaker managed to break the ward, he tricked the autarch's daughter into letting him in and stole the keys to tge runic wards.
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>>5025760
>she is probably together with other slaneshi daemons trying to tempt the eldar patroling the silver river in the webway
Demoted to beat cop.
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>>5025889
Too much of a loose cannon, Slanesh made her hand over the badge.
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>>5025932
Slaanesh sheriff badges are actually the skin of the daemon, turns out. I'll be pulling for a Cearnarch/Huli Jing quest for vengeance buddy cop interlude.
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>>5024563
Supporting
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>>5025944
God of the Hunt 2: Electric Bogaloo!
Starring Cearnarch as "Kurnous the unde study!
And: Huli Jing: as Anath Raema(fake)
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Sorry for the wait, calling the vote now that the machine spirits are not rebelling.

Request Carys and her followers be allowed to accompany they party as well, and suggest that they court death from being so wary of others. Unity is strength, after all:17

Warn the Aeldari that your world is beset by the same forces they fear. A small party may be at risk of being waylaid by wicked spirits.:18

Accept the terms, and give them the location you've prepared for just this purpose:13

tell them about our book the Journey and how it has a harmful effect on the forces they fear, they can recite it to repell any daemons they come across.:1

"Me and my brother alongside our disciples and masters, will help the party you will send in the daring travel to reach my world...":12

"Carys I believe it was, I am touched you have taken my words to heart it warms me to know they reach so far. Thank you for such a rare joy.":1

Offer to show them the designs for Null Denouncement wards and charms you've devised. They may not trust humans, but Chaos is the enemy of all who live, regardless of species.:3

Ask to be allowed to investigate the great quantities of malevolent energy: 3

Total votes: 18

So Lieren will accept the terms. Request Carys and her followers be allowed to accompany the party as well, Warn the Aeldari that Shangrala is beset by the same forces they fear

And finally attempt to sway the Aeldari of Kher-Ys into helping in dethroning Nitya Sinha from his empire of blood and bones

Writing now.
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Turning away from your brother, you consider the leader of Aeldari and the offer he had rather sharply presented. A blind man could see that you do not possess the trust of these people, and any respect they have for you is derived purely from the wisdom of your words and the show of force you performed to quiet their wild, paranoid accusations of you serving your greatest and eternal enemy. Softening your expression, you bow humbly and cup your fists while retaining eye contact with the apparent leader of the craftworld. He turns away when the unnerving sensation of remaining the sole subject of your attention and unerring gaze, forces him at last to break the contact. He endured being judged longer than most have, but in the end, even a hardened will cannot endure the feeling of being opened like a book, for the true character and secrets of the heart to be read as freely as any text.

"The terms you have presented are acceptable, however I would make my own requests in turn, petty things that do not alter the nature of our hastily struck agreement made for Amaethon's benefit" You state soberly, knowing that they will at least be forced to listen to your words before denying them outright

"Is knowledge not enough?" A farseer whispers coldly, only to be silenced by the envoy with a mere gesture of his hand

"You may speak your desires, Lieren of Shangrala, and we will determine if they are acceptable to accommodate within this hastily struck and ultimately temporary pact" He speaks, struggling to force himself to lock his eyes with your own, and shockingly manages to return to your focus by force of will alone. Enduring the agony of being revealed and read pointlessly, yet enduring none the less. Partly a show of pride, and partly penance for looking away to begin with.

"Firstly, I would request that The farseer Carys, who has through some means heard the teachings of The Journey beyond the stars and the entirety of her cohort, be allowed to accompany the party you send to retrieve the soulstone" You state sternly, making the eyes of your avatar flare with the golden fires hidden within "And that you ponder this wisdom, a family who isolates themselves from their village will find themselves starved come winter, slain not by those who they suspected of treachery but by their fears alone. Unity is strength"

"What remains of our race, beyond the specters of the past, is unified in its survival. May you ponder this wisdom, Giant of Shangrala, that a trusting hunter will soon find an arrow in his heart from those he considered companions and brothers if he remains naïve of the reality of the world" He answers scathingly, clearly insulted by your well meaning advice, choosing to remain blind of the folly of arrogance and wild suspicion "But I will accept this first request, Farseer Carys intended to make pilgrimage to your world before she imprisoned for threatening ours with her blind faith and Unrestrained passion in preaching of it."
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>>5026494

"You have only presented us a chance to be rid of her and the trouble she engenders" He continued, gesturing subtly and releasing the bouncing woman and her followers of their chains, which briefly glow white before parting like water and flowing from their wrists and ankles to merge with the white tiles beneath. Instantly, you recognize the material for what it is, wraithbone. A psionically reactive material similar to Kanzeon's "flesh" of mingled silver and gold. The "crime" of mischief making and teaching must not have been so greatly dire to chain the accused with a material that they themselves could not easily manipulate. More of a symbolic chaining, to show disdainful disappointment rather than truly binding the judged.

"Secondly, before I give to you the coordinates for a location secured and prepared for your envoys arrival, I would pray you would heed a warning after rejecting another" You say grimly, looking over the once chained warriors dressed black and bone, their familiar armor and dress marked with familiar characters and symbols. The most prominent being the Lotus of the Journey itself. Odd how this Carys was able to hear its lessons so far beyond the heavens and fields of Shangrala

"Speak your warning, if it is more dire than the first, we shall heed it" The envoy states just as solemly, his tone rising as his back buckles from the effort of enduring your piercing gaze. Pools of molten gold are reflected in his dark, almond shaped eyes, swirling like draining water.

"The same beast prowls both of our gardens at night, Servants of vile forces and their embodiments stalk the dark corners of Shangrala" You answer, lashing your arm outwards to the confusion of the gathered Aeldari, a few of which duck reflexively as if expecting you to sling a spell "Their curses in spilt blood and uttered words seeping into the soil and air"

"Shangrala, from my brother's description, suffers from a thinning of the veil between the materium and immaterium" Magnus explains, opening his eyes, pools of ever shifting and changing radiance "The boundaries between one realm and the other are diminished, more noticeably so in regions ruled by servants of the malevolent entities you know as Daemons. The cause of which, neither of us are yet certain"

Though there are a few theories you have kept to yourself. One being that, as Kanzeon's wounded "heart" produced the corruptive crystals that spawned the tiger-folk and all manner of magical beast, so to have her lost sister's bled into the shangrala's soil and weakened the foundations of Shangrala's reality. Of course, that is merely one possibility of thousands.

"Thus, a small party would be at risk of being waylaid by wicked spirits or the servants of such contemptible beings" You explain. turning an open palm towards the envoy "Surely, you must realize the risk posed by such a daring endeavor"

The envoy remains silent.
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>>5026495

He is considering your unspoken suggestion of expanding the rescue party's number to ensure their own safety. So, you decide to further incentivize him, and sway his decision of the matter.

"Me and my brother alongside our disciples and masters, will help the party you will send in the daring travel to reach my world" You solemnly swear, placing a hand between your twin hearts "Still even with that done, I must inform you that the empire of my people will soon fight against pawns of the wicked spirit of blood and war, one of the lords of hell, the enraged murderous worm that thinks of skulls as cups and blood as wine..."

"Worlds defiled by the touch of Sha'eil are often home to the slaves of its masters" The envoy interrupts, taking his chance to speak in a lull between words in your warning "But our warriors are veterans in combating such wretches"

"These pawns are well armed with ancient technology, more than my people can muster, and will likely fire upon you if they can see you approaching" You gravely continue, lowering your voice but raising its volume to rumble like thunder " Thus unless you wish to suggest to join forces in a combined strike for defeat them and put an end to their tyranny, it's best if you follow my instructions and land in my home region, as planned"

"So that is your true proposal" The envoy says, at last turning away, almost falling to his knees as his legs quiver from the backlash of holding your gaze for so long

"I have suggested nothing, But if you would like to make such suggestion, you would do us a great favor." You reply merrily, narrowing your eyes as you sway your shoulders and neck side to side like a viper may "And we wouldn't forget such kindness and with this done yet another tyrant in my world would die, allowing me to at last reach the freedom and prosperity I desire for all the men, women and childrens living on my world"

"We will not become your spear, and risk losing more precious Aeldari lives to meet a threat that does not endanger us. This petty warlord means nothing in the grand scheme of things, and we would have nothing to gain beyond friendship while we would risk that which cannot be reclaimed or repaid even by the strongest of loyalties" The envoy answers plainly "We will, knowing the dangers posed by the land itself, send a party no larger than what is necessary to safety retrieve and ensure the soulstones safe return to Kher-Ys. We will not provide you the auxiliary army you seek, Human, and will not come to your aid unless the situation..."

"Your making a mistaaaake" Carys replies in sing song "You have no idea whose alliance you are spurning, nor the benefits of such a binding friendship would bring that you reject in arrogance. I beheld his awakening, spurned on by meditation alone. You would turn away an unwavering bulwark simply because of the lingering shadow of death!"

He does not acknowledge her and merely turns his gaze back to your own.
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>>5026496

"Are these terms acceptable, Lieren of Shangrala?" He asks simply

You nod once

"Yes, and remember the price to be paid to my brother, the initial request of our negotiations" You answer coldly

"We will not forget what has been promised to both of you" The envoy says bluntly, nodding once as well.

"Then we shall take our leave" Magnus proclaims

"May your journey be filled with comfort and fortune, and may we soon meet again, Farseer Carys" You say, theatrically stepping away and reducing your avatar to flickers of golden flame awash by silver mists, that swirl and collide until all that remains is smoke

And upon returning to the material realm.

"Now do you see why I hold the Eldar with such disdain?" Kanzeon asks, her face barely an inch away from yours. It would seem she used your mediating form as something of a couch to languish upon as she waited for your return "Despite all they have done and suffered, they remain prideful and certain they are superior to all other forms of life, yet remain ignorant of the failing of this misguided belief. It is almost as if it were an evolved response to trauma..."


"I will admit, their personalities can become tiresome in extended conversation" You deflect, as it is not right to make a judgement of an entire race from the example of a few in a stressful situation. Still, it is curious that amongst them are adherents of the Journey

"Ooooh, I recognized her!" Guozhi exclaims, having still been listening to your thoughts "That energetic young woman, was the spirit who aided us in your defense! Lieren"

"How curious" You answer as Kanzeon rests her body against your chest, now greatly intrigued by this "Carys" Character

"She's one of the only sensible Eldar I have on record, and my archives are quiet extensive" Kanzeon muses

What do you do now, Lieren?

>Ask Guozhi of his experience with Carys, to see if you may be able understand HOW she learned of the Journey

>Simply prepare a landing site and wait for the arrival of the Aeldari, away from any cities or population centers

>Feeling mischievous, ensure the Aeldari's welcome will wound their pride without drawing their ire. Kanzeon should have plenty of ideas to share

>Reflect upon the state of Craftworld Kher-Ys and the malevolent qi surrounding it as if readying to swallow it, while seeing to your duties as Grand Architect

>write in

Sorry for the wait again, internet has been real spotty the last couple of days
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>>5026498
>Simply prepare a landing site and wait for the arrival of the Aeldari, away from any cities or population centers
>Reflect upon the state of Craftworld Kher-Ys and the malevolent qi surrounding it as if readying to swallow it, while seeing to your duties as Grand Architect
We can ask Carys directly.
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>>5026498
>>Reflect upon the state of Craftworld Kher-Ys and the malevolent qi surrounding it as if readying to swallow it, while seeing to your duties as Grand Architect
>>Simply prepare a landing site and wait for the arrival of the Aeldari, away from any cities or population centers
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>>5026498
>Simply prepare a landing site and wait for the arrival of the Aeldari, away from any cities or population centers
>Reflect upon the state of Craftworld Kher-Ys and the malevolent qi surrounding it as if readying to swallow it, while seeing to your duties as Grand Architect
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>>5026498
>>Simply prepare a landing site and wait for the arrival of the Aeldari, away from any cities or population centers
>>Reflect upon the state of Craftworld Kher-Ys and the malevolent qi surrounding it as if readying to swallow it, while seeing to your duties as Grand Architect
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>>5026498
>Reflect upon the state of Craftworld Kher-Ys and the malevolent qi surrounding it as if readying to swallow it, while seeing to your duties as Grand Architect

>Simply prepare a landing site and wait for the arrival of the Aeldari, away from any cities or population centers
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>>5026498
>Simply prepare a landing site and wait for the arrival of the Aeldari, away from any cities or population centers
>Ask Guozhi of his experience with Carys, to see if you may be able understand HOW she learned of the Journey
>Reflect upon the state of Craftworld Kher-Ys and the malevolent qi surrounding it as if readying to swallow it, while seeing to your duties as Grand Architect
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>>5026498
First
>Ask Guozhi of his experience with Carys, to see if you may be able understand HOW she learned of the Journey
Second
>Reflect upon the state of Craftworld Kher-Ys and the malevolent qi surrounding it as if readying to swallow it, while seeing to your duties as Grand Architect
Finally
>Simply prepare a landing site and wait for the arrival of the Aeldari, away from any cities or population centers
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>>5026498
>>Simply prepare a landing site and wait for the arrival of the Aeldari, away from any cities or population centers
>>Reflect upon the state of Craftworld Kher-Ys and the malevolent qi surrounding it as if readying to swallow it, while seeing to your duties as Grand Architect
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>Feeling mischievous, ensure the Aeldari's welcome will wound their pride without drawing their ire. Kanzeon should have plenty of ideas to share

Eldrad has the right idea.
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>>5026498
>Ask Guozhi of his experience with Carys, to see if you may be able understand HOW she learned of the Journey
>Simply prepare a landing site and wait for the arrival of the Aeldari, away from any cities or population centers
>Reflect upon the state of Craftworld Kher-Ys and the malevolent qi surrounding it as if readying to swallow it, while seeing to your duties as Grand Architect
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>>5026498
> Ask Guozhi of his experience with Carys, to see if you may be able understand HOW she learned of the Journey
Lieren is a popular man. 10-to-1 the Ork will just spontaneously learn about his existence as something akin to 'Tha' Killy Humie wif Lots of Flash'.

> Feeling mischievous, ensure the Aeldari's welcome will wound their pride without drawing their ire. Kanzeon should have plenty of ideas to share
It's been so long since Lieren really got to indulge in being a cheeky sonuvabitch, and also they deserve it. I'm sure Cegorach will be pleased to watch them got righteously trolled by someone they consecutively belittle and underestimate.

>Reflect upon the state of Craftworld Kher-Ys and the malevolent qi surrounding it as if readying to swallow it, while seeing to your duties as Grand Architect
I wonder if we should include Magnus and Amaenoth in this pondering? They might be able to more readily recognize it as the mustering of evil forces and not just the 'normal' state of being for the Warp. Different points of perspective offering new insight,etc.
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>>5026498
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>Simply prepare a landing site and wait for the arrival of the Aeldari, away from any cities or population centers
>Reflect upon the state of Craftworld Kher-Ys and the malevolent qi surrounding it as if readying to swallow it, while seeing to your duties as Grand Architect
>write in
Inform Amaenoth that we have arrange a return to home for him. Tell him it was nice to know him even if in his current form and for a brief amount of time. For what is worth, we would like to gift him and Farseer Carys copies of the Journey and extend an offer of friendship, thought his peers and superiors might be against it since Carys was put in chains for reading and spreading our book apparently. Until the craftworld party arrives his soul stone will remain in a armored encasing near us and some brotherhood members.
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>craftworld Kher-Ys
>Ker Ys
>AKA: celtic atlantis
WHERE DID YOU FIND THIS, MALAL?
HOW DO YOU KNOW OF Ys?
ARE YOU A PARISAN SPY?
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>>5026498
>Reflect upon the state of Craftworld Kher-Ys and the malevolent qi surrounding it as if readying to swallow it, while seeing to your duties as Grand Architect
>Simply prepare a landing site and wait for the arrival of the Aeldari, away from any cities or population centers
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>>5026676
I support.

They must learn humility fro. the cheeky monkey king
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>>5026504
Changing the simply prepare to
>Feeling mischievous, ensure the Aeldari's welcome will wound their pride without drawing their ire. Kanzeon should have plenty of ideas to share
They need a little bit of humility for their own good, Slanesh preys on pride afterall.
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>>5026590
Supporting this sequence of events, with anti-air emplacements.
It would be just out luck for the Vishnu tyrant Nityah Sinha sending his flying fortresses over to mess our first physical contact with the AYYYs
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>>5026498
>use divination to predict the future of Kher-Ys or at least one of the futures of it.
>Feeling mischievous, ensure the Aeldari's welcome will wound their pride without drawing their ire. Kanzeon should have plenty of ideas to share
>Ask Guozhi of his experience with Carys, to see if you may be able understand HOW she learned of the Journey
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>>5026498
> Ask Guozhi of his experience with Carys.
Just caught back up. Didn't read while on vacation, because driving.

Someone needs to do an audio of this quest.

Also-
Whom was the artist that was comissioned for the Lieren in Armor art? It was awesome.
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>>5027453
>Someone needs to do an audio of this quest.
Seconded. Though knowing GW, they'd catch wind of it, see that it's exponentially better than what BL's currently producing, and tell Malal he can either come work for them or get sued to death
>Whom was the artist that was comissioned for the Lieren in Armor art? It was awesome.
The one with the big book and even bigger fog panther pelt? Here's the link to his page.
https://artistsnclients.com/people/danpur?offset=0
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>>5026676
>I'm sure Cegorach will be pleased to watch them got righteously trolled by someone they consecutively belittle and underestimate.
Speaking of which. I wonder when Lieren is getting the mantle of the laughing god.
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>>5027492
Probably around the time he discovers their existence.
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Calling the vote now

Simply prepare a landing site and wait for the arrival of the Aeldari, away from any cities or population centers:11
-+ anti air emplacements: 1

Reflect upon the state of Craftworld Kher-Ys and the malevolent qi surrounding it as if readying to swallow it, while seeing to your duties as Grand Architect:14

Ask Guozhi of his experience with Carys, to see if you may be able understand HOW she learned of the Journey: 8

Feeling mischievous, ensure the Aeldari's welcome will wound their pride without drawing their ire. Kanzeon should have plenty of ideas to share: 5

Inform Amaenoth that we have arrange a return to home for him: 1

use divination to predict the future of Kher-Ys or at least one of the futures of it.: 1

Total votes:17

Alright, so Asking Guozhi about Carys, Reflecting upon the apparent state of Kher Ys while working and preparing a safe landing site away from Long-Jian population Centers win

Writing now.

>>5027453
>>5027490

That would be rad

>>5026712
I will never talk, unless offered outrageous amounts of fancy wine and cheeses
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>>5027584
What about peaty whiskey
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>>5027584
Hmmmm
>Craftworld Kher-Ys
>Craftworld KYS
>kill yourself
>everyone in the craft world is a grump
This splans some things
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"Grandfather" You call, raising your head towards the old sage still seated at your side, by the amazed Cai and the unshaken Kuan Im "Perhaps then you could elucidate the mystery of how this Carys became an adherent of the journey despite her high station and status amongst the Aeldari people"

"I cannot say for certain, all I know is she met me as a fellow traveler of the journey and I merely believed her to be a spirit who possessed a world view much akin to your own" Guozhi says, now pondering the question himself "It was after all she who gifted me the staff I used as a conduit to bolster you spiritual barrier, and she even led us in the fortifying formation to ensure the shield you had woven of blood and faith would not splinter"

"Maybe she stared too long into the Emperyan and had her thoughts scrambled by the sheer quantity of belief and hope the Journey has inspired around itself" Kanzeon offers with a shrug "It would explain why the other eldar consider her "addled" and why her emotional spectrum is not so atrophied as the rest of her kind"

"Grandmaster, Grandfather" Cai laughs, shaking his head as if you've acted foolishly "You are overthinking the matter, and turning plain truth into a mystifying secret! The Journey is a reflection of universal wisdom, to all souls it sings! No matter if they are born of men or something other! One must only have eyes to see through the fog to hear its lessons, the truly wise will flock beneath the banner of the Lotus of their own free will if they open their hearts to its teachings. For such powerful words to carry into the heavens, is to be expected"

"Wind whispering" Kuan Im answers, her blind eyes hidden behind her grey hair "the most obvious conclusion is her kind possess a talent for the technique, and when she met with Sect Master Lieren's Radiance she was able to behold the entirety of the Journey as well, as it is writ not only by his hand but upon his very soul. And her short meeting with Guozhi, only allowed her to fill in the gaps of her knowledge. A strange student finding roost beneath the wings of Thousand lives"

"That would make sense, actually, considering how deeply he's internalized the philosophy of the Journey. I would not be surprise if it hasn't been encoded into his genetic code at this point" Kanzeon mumbles, glancing to you and narrowing her eyes "His anatomy is after all, beautifully unique"

"Oh, you'll turn my cheeks red with such compliments, Kanzeon" You coo, Uncrossing your legs to stand at your full height, allowing the beads you clutched to fall loose around your wrists "I will have to speak with my brother later, and show my gratitude for the invaluable assistance he lent. If only I was able to show it, with a flower plucked from Shangrala and planted upon Prospero"

"Now there's a worthwhile ambition' Guozhi cackled, eyes squinted beneath his liver spot dotted brow.

"That reminds me, of the oddity that has taken most of my...attention" Kanzeon says,
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>>5027636

focused on Guozhi, who continues laughing "Specifically the obvious connection you have with me and my family, Guozhi. You are knowledgeable in fields beyond those taught by the society that has flourished here, and far too familiar with me in particular. Why?"

"Ah find me in my next life mother Kanzeon, and perhaps then you will find the answers you seek. Not all questions can be found with research and study" Guozhi teases, sending a flicker of the flame of irritation across Kanzeon's eyes. Like a storm whipping through the beautiful green fields of spring.

"You could also ply him with the right vintage of aged tea, even Grandfather has his vices" You tease, grinning ear to ear as you can see the gears turning and the connections firing in Kanzeon's head as her expression is weighed down with the effort of connecting Guozhi to any of the many faces consigned to her memory.

Guozhi recoiled dramatically, reeling as if he had been struck to the amusement of Cai and yourself

"Ah! Such treachery!" He wailed theatrically, throwing his head in a gesture of mock agony "My own student, my own mentor has driven a blade through my heart, Har Har!
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Upon a distant world of frost and death, a warrior born of wolf and man stood upon a field dyed crimson by the dead, dying and wounded of those who had opposed his king and second father, Thengir. Flecks of pink frost coated his bare chest and Lupine features, while a dark liquor dripped from the now dulled edge of his favored blade. Alone amidst the corpses of his enemies, as the winds and snows whipped into a blizzard that would send even the hardiest beasts and Men of Fenris to their ignoble graves, Leman Russ stood stoic. Like a stone guardian carved by ancient hands, he observed the battlefield, lingering longer than he had ever had before.

His nose twitched as it caught a queer scent upon the air. His eyes narrowed as beneath the storm of ice and snow, strange borealis flickered and danced like seas of polished gems and shells. In the back of his mind, a yearning struggled to pull him away from the morose scene of his victory, to return and partake in the celebration that awaited to honor his martial skill and ferocity. But, something kept him where he stood, before the now frozen corpse of the last man to challenge him directly. The once steam pool of blood that washed against his feet had cooled and frozen into the furs wrapped around them.

Beneath the scent of iron and death, beneath the wails of the wind and the walls of frost and hail, beneath even the strangely enchanting rivers of lights. Something beckoned. Something he could not see, nor smell. But the sensation remained. That he was not alone in his vigil. There was a weight in the air, the presence of an "Other". A warmth beneath the biting cold, the killing winds. Closing his eyes, he could almost imagine his unseen yet strongly felt companion.
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>>5027637

A Warrioress of fae like beauty. Skin like freshly fallen snow, hair cut short like a wolf's spring coat. Moonlight white and Molten gold are her colors, evenly divided between her hair and the fur and armors she wears, and speckled through her coldly confident eyes. Like fires burning in camps throughout the ice fields, visible for miles. A heavy collar of wrought iron sits upon her shoulders, closed around her neck. Russ feels his lips part in a smile, as he dreams of scars earned through valorous combat upon her otherwise unblemished hide. Something primal stirs within him, something familiar and amorous.

The maidenly beauty, born of uncaring ice and warming fire, reaches for him and a shameful shudder crawls down past his broad, tensed shoulders. Like he were a whelp experiencing a woman's touch for the first time.

But, when he opens his eyes, he is alone. Yet the presence lingers. As if the maiden of his day dreams lurks somewhere in the edges of the battlefield, in the wild and uncharted glaciers and mountain peaks beyond even the territory once held by the men dead at his feet.

Leman Russ snarled, lips parting further than before. His instincts warned him something was amiss beneath the pleasant temptation of his fantasy, and he remembered stories told to him when he had first been accepted into the Russ as their fellow and kinsmen. Of Snow devils and frost giantess, seductresses that led the dying astray after battle's end. Fae creatures, who delighted in the agonies of those they enthralled and whose collection of frozen corpses could be found in the deepest reaches of Fenris' most wild places.

Turning on his heel, The warrior who would one day be known as the Wolf King, took his leave of the dead, to allow the winds to bury them in graves of snow and ice. Unaware, even with his inhumanely sharp senses, of the battle still raging in a world beyond his own.

In which, the souls of the loyal and valorous dead rose again, drafted into an army marching and growing through the Warp. An army of Order and Ice. And from Fenris, they took the spirits of those who had refused to break their oaths and flee or give into their dying rage or the fear of what awaited them beyond death, and blessed them with new life amidst the legions of the Imprisoned Lady of Winter.

Leman paused, raising his head, alert once again. He could smell a bear nearby.
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"You're troubled thinking about something" Kanzeon correctly guesses, though you have hidden your thoughts from her, as the two of you rest away from the labors of the day, one of the latest projects Jinhai has commanded your ministry to see built and completed "You're eyes are distant and cold, so you must be worrying yourself about some grim thought or possibility or another. At least, I am reasonably certain you are"

You nod.
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>>5027638

"I'm just reflecting, upon the state of the Kher-Ys. I sensed a great malevolence surrounding them, that I have not felt since I had undertaken my unwilling tribulation some time ago" You admit, scratching your chin and staring at the moon unhidden by the fog, for some reason it demands your attention this night yet you cannot see or understand why "It is worrisome, as"

"You cannot stand to know there are people in danger, even if they would reject your protection and assistance, no matter how miniscule of an effort it would be?" Kanzeon correctly assumes

"Precisely, and my stomach is sickened not knowing the face of the danger posed to them, if I was present upon the craftworld itself I'd" You mutter, somehow feeling ashamed by your helplessness in the matter

"Endanger yourself, risking termination to spare others of pain or the threat of death, even if the opponent you meet is indomitable or vastly surpasses you in physicality, martial skill, or cunning?' Kanzeon once again, correctly assumes as she toys with a lock of your iron hued hair

"Correct again, my love. You know me well" You laugh, but the joy is soured by lingering doubt "I can only hope at least a handful of Kher-Ys have, in absence of my own efforts, at least have eyes to see the wisdom of the Journey as spread by Carys"

"They're Eldar, I doubt any of them are sensible enough to follow a sound, logical philosophy even though it was devised by another race" Kanzeon pouts, kicking her feet into the irrigation stream running through the fields you have been helping to cultivate at an unprecedented scale, to help feed the long expected second population boom that should arrive by the spring of next year if the records of new marriages and familial migrations were accurately taken.

"There is proof they would" You reply plainly

"Exceptions that prove the rule" Kanzeon barks back, smirking as a fat toad hops to her side, and briefly ponders if the creature several times his size is prey or a predator it should fear. Eventually its simply brain realizes she poses no threat, and begins to croak and sing to the night.

"Perhaps, but then again, perhaps like the bask..." You begin to muse before Kanzeon laughs uproariously at the thought.

"If only enough of them are not yet blinded by pride or protocol" Kanzeon cackles, calming down after a few moments of exhausting laughter "But that would be a wonderful thing if the eldar could see reason and admit their faults"

"As it would be for any other" You say with a smile, as you admire the chorus of the toads "Though still, I cannot help but worry for their future, surrounded by darkness as they are"

"Maybe when they realize you had no ulterior motive in approaching them and do no scheme their death or possess ambitions to steal their closely kept secrets, they'll calm enough to actually listen to those who want only to help them, despite all of their posturing" Kanzeon says,
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>>5027639

whistling as she enjoys the cooling night air swirling around the both of you
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In the most inhospitable region of the former Cui Region, near the abandoned castle that had once been the home the Cui family themselves, you wait, surrounded by searchlights and flares. The region is more sparsely populated than it was before, as only its most stubborn of inhabitants remained after the death of the lineage that had forced them survived in the dust and sunbaked cliffs. The only travelers are the workers continuing your efforts to revitalize and rebirth the region, agriculturalists and architects maintaining the roads, and soldiers manning the forts built by your hands or those now long dead.

The lands are beginning to heal, but its black reputation has left few willing to enter and repopulate it. Except for the Men of New Varro and the Vishnu, who seem to frequent the plains for the singular purpose of attempting to either tame or hunt the carnivorous sub species of cliff racers that dwells in the wilds of this province.

"Before I leave your company, noble Lieren, I would like to apologize for the wariness and rudeness of my kin" Amaethon suddenly speaks from within his prison "The virtue and kindness you boast, is a rarity throughout history. And we have been so often betrayed and spurned, it is only natural for us to view all with suspicion"

You peer out towards the darkened night sky

"To think, you would respect the man who embodied the direct opposition of your beliefs with a burial, and still honor him in your thoughts" He continues on

Cui Fu's final battle repeats itself in your minds eye, and you make a note to leave an offering at the old war dog's grave.

"He was not without his virtues, though I found his world view repugnant. He was the embodiment of a honorable warrior, and stood tall even in the face of an opponent he despised yet knew he could not overcome. Despite his beliefs, his loyalty and valor, remain yet unmatched, and there are few men I know who could have survived an encounter with the last lord of the Cui, even amongst those I have personally trained" You sigh, in gentle recollection of one of the men you wished could have been saved.

"You can see the smallest sliver of good in any person, Lieren, it is one of your best traits" Kanzeon says with an admiring nod of her head "And, even though I'm a bit more cynical, I cannot help but admire a man who managed to land a hit on you, few can claim that particular honor"

"Fewer still among the living" You boast, allowing a confident smile to show.
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>>5027641

How will you greet the Aeldari, Lieren?

>Simply hand over Amaethon's soulstone, and turn your attention to Carys and her flock and greet them as fellow followers of the Journey

>Prepare a tea Ceremony, and strong arm the leader of the envoys into a philosophical debate between your idealistic world view, and the Aeldari's cynical one

>Greet them with a recounting of Cui Fu's defiant final stand. Having learned enough of their culture and beliefs from conversations with Amaethon, you know of Khaine and the spirits fate. Perhaps it will open their hearts to humanity?

>Set a board to perform divination through Purple star Astrology and the 60 life orders, and offer to read the Aeldari's fate. They have a tradition of seers do they not?

>Let Kanzeon greet them

>Write in

>>5027589
Yes

>>5027592
kek
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>>5027637
fuck, there goes my Thrones with Leman darkhorse.
>>5027642
>Prepare a tea Ceremony, and strong arm the leader of the envoys into a philosophical debate between your idealistic world view, and the Aeldari's cynical one
during or after the tea we can
>Greet them with a recounting of Cui Fu's defiant final stand. Having learned enough of their culture and beliefs from conversations with Amaethon, you know of Khaine and the spirits fate. Perhaps it will open their hearts to humanity?
I feel like they would just brush off our attempt to divine the future after all the primitive monkey way can't possibly surpass their farseers.
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>Set a board to perform divination through Purple star Astrology and the 60 life orders, and offer to read the Aeldari's fate. They have a tradition of seers do they not?

>Let Kanzeon greet them

These two definitely.
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>>5027642
>Write in
Ward the place up and sit in meditation while our most wonderful companions prep a tea ceremony. Lay enough seats for many so our far flung fan and her followers may also sit should they choose. Finally when they arrive give Magnus a buzz that he might ask his questions.

Imo we be nice but let Magnus do some talking while we play friendly with our Eldar students. Only stepping in of our bro gets a touch rough
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>>5027642
>>Prepare a tea Ceremony, and strong arm the leader of the envoys into a philosophical debate between your idealistic world view, and the Aeldari's cynical one
>>Greet them with a recounting of Cui Fu's defiant final stand. Having learned enough of their culture and beliefs from conversations with Amaethon, you know of Khaine and the spirits fate. Perhaps it will open their hearts to humanity?

These two.

I feel the divination should be done as a parting gift.
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>>5027642
>Prepare a tea Ceremony, and strong arm the leader of the envoys into a philosophical debate between your idealistic world view, and the Aeldari's cynical one
>Greet them with a recounting of Cui Fu's defiant final stand. Having learned enough of their culture and beliefs from conversations with Amaethon, you know of Khaine and the spirits fate. Perhaps it will open their hearts to humanity?
>Set a board to perform divination through Purple star Astrology and the 60 life orders, and offer to read the Aeldari's fate. They have a tradition of seers do they not?
They will probably not enjoy getting into a debate when they most likely wanna leave ASAP, but I'm hoping their curiosity will keep them long enough for us to get somewhere. Or Carys agrees and forces the rest to play along. I imagine they would be at least somewhat interested in the prophecy, even if only to trash talk it.
Though doing the divination as a parting gift is fine too.

We can now add Leman to the list of Primarchs who are gonna get deja vu upon seeing us. Should be interesting.
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>>5027653
I will support.

Do not let Kanzeon greet them. We dont want a war.
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>>5027661
Support

>>5027668
The banter would be amazing though. Like the Men of Iron reference Amaethon dropped.

Kanzeon should make them a gift of a jetbike.
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>>5027642

>Prepare a tea Ceremony, and strong arm the leader of the envoys into a philosophical debate between your idealistic world view, and the Aeldari's cynical one
>Greet them with a recounting of Cui Fu's defiant final stand. Having learned enough of their culture and beliefs from conversations with Amaethon, you know of Khaine and the spirits fate. Perhaps it will open their hearts to humanity?
>Set a board to perform divination through Purple star Astrology and the 60 life orders, and offer to read the Aeldari's fate. They have a tradition of seers do they not?
>Write in : Gifts for the Eldar Party
Prepare a series of gifts after discussing with Amaenoth of what the Eldar party could like to receive. Pelts ? Clothing ? Tools ? Art ? Food ? Gems ? Even an offer to refuel and repair their ship could do.
Beside this a translated Journey with copies of it, will be gifted to the Craftworld, as well Carys and her followers.
Lastly while Jinhai can't be here, an imperial lord or administrator should attend the encounter beside us. The option to transform this encounter in something more could be still in our reach, and we should be ready to capitalize on it if possible. If nothing else, this encounter will be fully recorded by machinery as well a scribe with a writing machine. If only diplomacy could win, possibilities would be endless...

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Btw there is not much stuff of Kher Ys, a small text in the wiki. More relevant to their fall than anything else.
And they have the color green, and no rune which is a shame but also an oppurtunity.
If you want Malal describe the rune or just make something fast with draw.
I am still making the other images I wanted to make last thread, but it would still take sometime anyway (more than one week). So it would be a nice addition when I post everything else too.
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>>5027642
>Set a board to perform divination through Purple star Astrology and the 60 life orders, and offer to read the Aeldari's fate. They have a tradition of seers do they not?
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>>5027638
> The maidenly beauty, born of uncaring ice and warming fire, reaches for him and a shameful shudder crawls down past his broad, tensed shoulders. Like he were a whelp experiencing a woman's touch for the first time.
Welp, Arianka's gonna have the 'Executioner' wrapped around her dainty armored finger.

At least now the Vylka Fenrika, or however it's spelled, will be more Nordic holy berserkers than giant yiff lords.

>>5027642
> Prepare a tea Ceremony, and strong arm the leader of the envoys into a philosophical debate between your idealistic world view, and the Aeldari's cynical one
>Greet them with a recounting of Cui Fu's defiant final stand. Having learned enough of their culture and beliefs from conversations with Amaethon, you know of Khaine and the spirits fate. Perhaps it will open their hearts to humanity?
These two first, and if it makes any sense, combine them. Then;
> Turn your attention to Carys and her flock and greet them as fellow followers of the Journey
I wonder if we should offer them a gift befitting travelers?
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I think we should postpone the divination until we've had a chance to talk with Carys; there might be some things that just shouldn't be altered because they could effect wider events.

For all we know, Kher-Ys is doomed to die, but their loss will galvanize the other Craftworlds into being more cooperative with their kith and kin.

> inb4 Cegorach visits Arianka's newly rebuilt holdfast of glacial ice and eternal flames to give her a welcoming gift
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>>5027642
>Prepare a tea Ceremony, and strong arm the leader of the envoys into a philosophical debate between your idealistic world view, and the Aeldari's cynical one
>>5027705
Supporting the gifts, no need to have an official with us, Kanzeon is probably memorizing it all.

So Arianka's spirits are valkyries? Neat. Does Fenrir actually have a world soul, guardian wolf spirits or whatever other excuse Leman came up on why his psykers were different, or do the whole rage against death's truth proves him wrong?
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>>5027722
>>5027723
Supporting talking to Carys, we asked to bring her here, not talking to her would be a waste.
Also we can ask her directly instead of conjecture.
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>>5027728
>>5027722
I'm personally hoping for bearserkers instead of wolf everything.
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>>5027735
He was literally raised by wolves, he might expand a bit now if he continues to see arianka but the wolves aren't going anywhere
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>>5027642
>Prepare a tea Ceremony, and strong arm the leader of the envoys into a philosophical debate between your idealistic world view, and the Aeldari's cynical one
>Simply hand over Amaethon's soulstone, and turn your attention to Carys and her flock and greet them as fellow followers of the Journey
>Set a board to perform divination through Purple star Astrology and the 60 life orders, and offer to read the Aeldari's fate. They have a tradition of seers do they not?
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>>5027785
I think you misunderstand.
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>Prepare a tea Ceremony, and strong arm the leader of the envoys into a philosophical debate between your idealistic world view, and the Aeldari's cynical one
>Greet them with a recounting of Cui Fu's defiant final stand. Having learned enough of their culture and beliefs from conversations with Amaethon, you know of Khaine and the spirits fate. Perhaps it will open their hearts to humanity?
>Set a board to perform divination through Purple star Astrology and the 60 life orders, and offer to read the Aeldari's fate. They have a tradition of seers do they not?
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>>5027642
>>Prepare a tea Ceremony, and strong arm the leader of the envoys into a philosophical debate between your idealistic world view, and the Aeldari's cynical one
>>Set a board to perform divination through Purple star Astrology and the 60 life orders, and offer to read the Aeldari's fate. They have a tradition of seers do they not?
>Arianka's recruiting from Fenris
God, wait until she learns of the Vostroyans. Then she'll feel right at home. Wonder if this'll effect the culture of the Space Wolves too. I've always liked the name Wild Hunt for them...
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>>5027642
>>Prepare a tea Ceremony, and strong arm the leader of the envoys into a philosophical debate between your idealistic world view, and the Aeldari's cynical one
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>tfw Lemans probably gonna be OK with lieren once he figures out the connection between the ice goddess and him.
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>>5027642
>Write in
>Work with Kanzeon and our friend Farseer Amaenoth in creating a living bonzai tree in the shape of mother Isha cradling an eldar child, utilizing Kanzeon's cloning technology to ensure the tree continues to grow while maintaining it's shape, while allowing the eldar to tend to the tree so it doesn't grow too wild. Lieren and Amaenoth will provide visual cultural details to improve it's quality, while including pieces of the finest Jades embued with the Null Denouncement Charms, and scriptures of The Journey carved at the molecular level.
>When the Craftworld Kher-Ys envoys arrive and question how we created such a perfect sculpture of the mother of their species, we can use it as a talking piece to eventually tell them about our fight with the Champion of Nurgle, and our promise to one day free Isha.

>>5027650
I like the Kanzeon one too, but reading their fates for them seems insulting in a way, since they have their own Farseers to use.

>>5027652
+1 this, theres not enough write ins

>>5027908
ice bros 4 lyfe
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>>5027929
>since they have their own Farseers to use.
Didn't help the Farseer we have.
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>>5027642

>Let Kanzeon greet them
>Greet them with a recounting of Cui Fu's defiant final stand. Having learned enough of their culture and beliefs from conversations with Amaethon, you know of Khaine and the spirits fate. Perhaps it will open their hearts to humanity?

>Set a board to perform divination through Purple star Astrology and the 60 life orders, and offer to read the Aeldari's fate. They have a tradition of seers do they not?

Backing this as well >>5027652
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>>5028007
They're super prideful and probably would ignore our warnings.
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>>5027642
>Prepare a tea Ceremony, and strong arm the leader of the envoys into a philosophical debate between your idealistic world view, and the Aeldari's cynical one
>Greet them with a recounting of Cui Fu's defiant final stand. Having learned enough of their culture and beliefs from conversations with Amaethon, you know of Khaine and the spirits fate. Perhaps it will open their hearts to humanity?
>Simply hand over Amaethon's soulstone, and turn your attention to Carys and her flock and greet them as fellow followers of the Journey
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>>5027652
sounds good, backing, provided i havent voted already, ive forgotten.
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>>5027785
The problem is less that he was raised by 'wolves' and more that his sons (largely because of GW) hyper-focused on that one facet of his life.

I wish the Wulfen were just a cultural thing the Legion adopted, like warriors of old garbing themselves in bear skins, than an actual transformation. A Rune-Priest might hand pick warriors, feed them toxic psychedelics, and arm his possessed brothers in anti-Daemon weapons.

>>5027908
I think it would be interesting if, as more gods/powers are revealed, they find 'champions' among the Primarchs that most closely appeal to their core aspects.

Lieren might've been the one to loosen her bonds and gift her his flame, but Leman Russ and Rogal Dorn might need her blessing in their hour of need than the Hunter of Shangrala.

Personally, I hope the continued upheaval of the Empyric power structure (which has for countless millennia been dominated by Chaos) ripples outward. Who knows? The Diasporex might become a client state of the Imperium, the Rangdan Genocide might not cost the Legion's so much, etc.
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>>5028079
I'm hoping to one day find Solkan and Alluminas too.
The god of retribution might be the only one able to stop Kurze from going completly insane now that Lieren started ruining his precog powers.
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>>5028079
>I wish the Wulfen were just a cultural thing the Legion adopted, like warriors of old garbing themselves in bear skins, than an actual transformation.
I'd be fine if it wasn't just wolves, DESU. I saw a theory that Russ' geneseed was supposed to work with stable beastmen or human strains with higher-than-average concentrations of beastmen DNA (like those with the Canis Helix) in the same way Sanguinius' can uplift the most degenerated mutants to angelic paragons. Boar, bear, or raven-wulfen would go along way to make it seem like his legion doesn't name or model every second aspect of themselves after fucking wolves.
>>5028091
If Solkan is found (by either us or Arianka) before the Crusade finds Konrad, he might actually realize that enforcing the law through fear only works when the source of that fear is around. Else it just regresses to its pre-fear state (criminals being the biggest fish, making them the most fit for Astartes conversion, leading to the Night Lords being full of the kind of people Konrad hates the most).
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>>5028114
>DESU
God, I hate filters.
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>>5027642
>Prepare a tea Ceremony, and strong arm the leader of the envoys into a philosophical debate between your idealistic world view, and the Aeldari's cynical one
>Set a board to perform divination through Purple star Astrology and the 60 life orders, and offer to read the Aeldari's fate. They have a tradition of seers do they not?
Seems people are forgetting the other two fantasy order gods are canonically terrible entities who's only saving grace is having a obsessive hate boner for chaos, Lieren would have to revive them like Arianka by transplanting huge chunks of his soul for them to have any chance at becoming benign to humanity at all.
If we want to push Lieren in the direction of the other gods of warhammer fantasy we should look for Sigmar or the ancestor gods of the Dawi.
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>>5028128
how about Morr the god of the dead that protects souls from chaos.
or his wife Verena Goddess of Knowledge, Science, Law and Justice.
their also their two daughters (although they may be stepping on other god's toes)
Shallya the Goddess of mercy and healing
Myrmidia the Goddess of warfare, strategy, beauty and honour
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>>5028128
Neither one of them is terrible. Solkan embodies the mindset of a zero-tolerance Hereticus Inquisitor, which is an understandable mindset for the setting, and Alluminas is pretty much true neutral. Nothing is being forgotten.
>we should look for Sigmar or the ancestor gods of the Dawi.
Neither of them are warp entities like the Gods of Law. They're ascended dieties, mortals who achieved godhood, like Big E. I would imagine the Eldar Gods are an also an example of ascended deities in 40k. As the Warp is the unifying factor between 40k and Fantasy, only the entities who are purely of the Warp would be able to exist in this setting as Arianka (and her two counterparts) can. We might receive visions or whispers from them, but unless we make the effort to have mortals here ascend to the same roles, which is what I suspect happened with the Eldar gods, they won't be major players.
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>>5028128
Anon, you can't call the god who takes the law of eye for an eye a cunt and in the same post praise the angry manlets that came up with the book of grudges.
But I agree that injecting some humanity would help a lot, specially Alluminas, since his assholery is only due to him having an alien way of thinking.
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Here's an idea. Let's offer the Eldar a sparring match where they can send as many challengers as they want against us then we just kick their ass while channeling Khaine.
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>>5028209
that sounds both blasphemous and overkill
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>>5028212
More like hilarious and humbling.
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>>5028212
Omg yes.

>>Here's an idea. Let's offer the Eldar a sparring match where they can send as many challengers as they want against us then we just kick their ass while channeling Khaine.
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>>5028209
That's so retarded, I can't even conceive of it.

I will give it a vote because it deserves it.
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>>5028209
>>Here's an idea. Let's offer the Eldar a sparring match where they can send as many challengers as they want against us then we just kick their ass while channeling Khaine.

100% support
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>>5028209
Anti-votes are generally considered poor form on this board

That being said, I’m voting against that
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>>5028209
Antivotes are considered poor form but doing so from a 1 post id is just cowardly

+1 Antivote because this idea is retarded
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>>5028278
Never claimed to be a brave man
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>>5028222
>>5028268
>>5028278
Don't really think it's retarded since it's the only way to get Eldar to listen to Lieren especially their warriors which worship Khaine.
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>>5028310
They’re emotionally repressed elfs with a superiority complex, not unwashed roid-rage Khornates

A might-makes-right donnybrook is exactly the type of thing they’d expect from a mon’keigh feudal worlder, don’t offer their stereotypes any ground to stand on. Just have Amaethon tell them we mantled Khaine and Ynnead
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>>5028282
I don't think we need to antivote because it only has maybe four votes (not sure about >>5028215)
when everything else has.
>Prepare a tea Ceremony 13
>Greet them with a recounting 9
>Set a board to perform divination 9
>Let Kanzeon greet them 2
>>5027652 write in 4
>Write in : Gifts for the Eldar Party 3 (>>5027929) 1
> Turn your attention to Carys 4
so it has 4/48 votes.
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>>5028317
>They’re emotionally repressed elfs with a superiority complex, not unwashed roid-rage Khornates
>A might-makes-right donnybrook is exactly the type of thing they’d expect from a mon’keigh feudal worlder, don’t offer their stereotypes any ground to stand on. Just have Amaethon tell them we mantled Khaine and Ynnead
If we can channel Khaine again, then they will have no choice but to take us seriously. Especially if they're aspect warriors.

THey already practice "Path" now we teach them "Journey"
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>>5028367
>If we can channel Khaine again, then they will have no choice but to take us seriously. Especially if they're aspect warriors.
You’re underestimating Eldar stubbornness and overestimating Eldar piety. They’ll choose the path of willful ignorance if it goes against their worldview and a human channeling one of their gods is definitely one such thing
>THey already practice "Path" now we teach them "Journey"
Remember that one of our core tenants is “don’t evangelize, let people choose or decline to accept our teachings.” We’re not Lorgar
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>>5028398
You also forget the only god universally worshipped and respected by the Eldar is Khaine.
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>>5028405
Not only am I aware of that, but it’s also a non sequitur. It doesn’t matter if he’s universally respected, we’re a human. If they’re as pious as you claim, they’ll try to kill us for tainting a portion of their god’s consciousness with our mon’keigh spirit
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>>5028405
Actually, Khaine is the only god workshipped and resoected by the Dark Eldar, and only be a few of them.
Craftworlders honour Isha because of their need for soulstones, but still remember their old god, specially Asuryan, even though they are dead. Kher-Ys is really big on Asuryan for example.
Ynead is respected, but he still doesn't exist, and all the eldar have to die for him to appear. Also his forces grow stronger on the nu-lore, don't know how much of that Malal is trying to salvage.
The eldar overall respect Cenogorach the most, since he is the only one that is free and unbroken, and the harlequins act as the closest thing as a unifying leadership among exodites, deldar, craftworders and corsairs when they show up.
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>>5028410
All eldar warriors worship or respect Khaine anon. Especially aspect warriors.
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>>5028410
>respect Cenogorach the most,
More like anyone outside the Harlequins barely tolerate him because he's an irritating asshole and he only gets away with it because he's a useful asshole.
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>>5028409
And when we claim to be able to rescue Isha, they'll bleed themselves trying to disprove our claims, especially with our feats corroborated by our pocket eldar.

They can't take the chance that they won't be the ones to rescue her. Especially if we hit them in the pride first then call them out on it.
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>>5027638
I'm a little confused, who is the woman the Leman Russ saw? Was it the spirit we freed from the cage when Malal was resurrected? If she is what is she doing in the warp? What is this army that's being assembled? Why is it of ice? I'm a little lost as I've just caught up
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>no one wants to gift a bonsai tree
Okay
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>>5028503
>I'm a little confused, who is the woman the Leman Russ saw?
A possible vision of Arianka, her or a spirit of Arianka. It s not specified, it s up to us to understand by reading the quest or waiting for the next update related to it.
>Was it the spirit we freed from the cage when Malal was resurrected?
Yes. Either a vision of her, her or one of her servant, warp entities can do things like that. She s technically still not fully free. But it s specified she's recovering her lost strength thanks to us.
>If she is what is she doing in the warp?
Well she lives there, but i think you mean in the materium on Fenris. Currently she is still in the cage.
It s pretty obvious by reading it, recovering her strength and starting again her legions. And she or her servant where taking worthy warriors slain in battles from the planet. It just happened she also encountered Russ.
>What is this army that's being assembled?
Her servants : minor spirits (like the one Magnus has seen) and souls of worthy mortals given the means to fight chaos. Think of it like the demons of chaos under the different gods. Just not disgusting and malicious. I think you can understand why she would need them, with 5 gods of chaos and being still imprisoned right ?
>Why is it of ice? I'm a little lost as I've just caught up
Arianka represent order and ice, so the two are associated to her.
Read again the posts of the battle against Beleakor, it should give you a better insight.
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>Fulgrim and Lieran visit a special girl on her special day

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UxqEx1TF0o
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>>5028413
I never said they didn't, you said that eldar only respected and workshiped Khaine, and I said that they do it for all the gods, even the dead ones.
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>>5028587
Dark Eldar explicitly don't worship or respect any of the gods except Khaine. Instead they replaced them with the Muses. On the other Eldars it really varies.
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>>5028527
>Either a vision of her, her or one of her servant
Maybe a Viydagg, if it isn't Arianka herself. They're greater daemons of law and commonly associated with both her and Solkan.
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>>5028602
I thought you meant that the craftworlders only workshipped Khaine, and I corrected it saying that was the deldar's deal.
But what you actually said is that Khaine workship is the only one present on exodites, craftworld and deldar society, I didn't see the universally.
Actually, do the exodites even workship Khaine? And aren't the Harlequins dedicated solely to Cegorach?
I also don't remember when craftworlders started being called Asuryani. Was it at the same time the Imperial Guard got renamed to Astra Militarum? I've never been an Eldar fan and only begun seeing the term recently
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>>5028621
>Actually, do the exodites even workship Khaine?
Yes they do. Biel-tan alliance with the Exodites to wage war on non-Eldar is proof they have to along with the fact they have to protect the world shrines.
>And aren't the Harlequins dedicated solely to Cegorach?
Actually a fair point but considering Cegorach and Khaine fought along side each other against Slaanesh and the plays they do, I suspect they do worship Khaine just not the way other Eldar do.
>Was it at the same time the Imperial Guard got renamed to Astra Militarum?
Most likely.
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>>5028635
>They exist outside of normal Eldar society and hold no allegiance to any Craftworld, Kabal, or other form of authority other than to their own belief in the Eldar deity Cegorach, the Laughing God.
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Harlequin
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Sorry for the wait. The flesh was weak. Calling the vote now.

Prepare a tea Ceremony, and strong arm the leader of the envoys into a philosophical debate between your idealistic world view, and the Aeldari's cynical one:14

Greet them with a recounting of Cui Fu's defiant final stand. Having learned enough of their culture and beliefs from conversations with Amaethon, you know of Khaine and the spirits fate. Perhaps it will open their hearts to humanity?:10


Let Kanzeon greet them:2

Ward the place up and sit in meditation while our most wonderful companions prep a tea ceremony. Lay enough seats for many so our far flung fan and her followers may also sit should they choose. Finally when they arrive give Magnus a buzz that he might ask his questions.:4

Set a board to perform divination through Purple star Astrology and the 60 life orders, and offer to read the Aeldari's fate. They have a tradition of seers do they not?:9

Prepare a series of gifts after discussing with Amaenoth of what the Eldar party could like to receive. :2

Simply hand over Amaethon's soulstone, and turn your attention to Carys and her flock and greet them as fellow followers of the Journey: 4

Work with Kanzeon and our friend Farseer Amaenoth in creating a living bonzai tree in the shape of mother Isha cradling an eldar child, utilizing Kanzeon's cloning technology to ensure the tree continues to grow while maintaining it's shape, while allowing the eldar to tend to the tree so it doesn't grow too wild:1

offer the Eldar a sparring match where they can send as many challengers as they want against us then we just kick their ass while channeling Khaine:4

Total votes: 21

So you will greet them with the tale of Cui Fu's last stand, while preparing a tea ceremony and then strong arm the leader of the party into a philosophical debate

Writing now

>>5027705
To Lieren's eyes, since he has seen it, the rune would appear as a shield, wrapped in chains arranged like folded wings

>>5028268
>>5028278
Not allowing anti votes, ever. It'd set a bad precedent for the future
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>>5029272
How did predictingt their future not get in? It had 9 votes? and half of 14 is 7? or am I remembering it wrong and its half of all total votes?
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>>5029287
It's one less than half of the total votes, not the biggest option.
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>>5029304
Correct
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>>5029287
>the eldar sparring match took this from you
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>>5029314
I'm more worried about not talking to Carys.
We brought her and the other eldar journeyelfs all the way here and we are not even going to ask anything?
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>>5029332
We can do that after the tea. Her and her crew will probably get a kick out of our debate with the Kher-Ys emissary too.
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>>5029335
I hope so.
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>>5029343
Even if we can't, they might have their own ship. She and her crew could stay after the other group leaves. Hopefully she can help us formulate a way to save Kher-Ys since we aren't telling them their future directly.
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I doubt Malal is honestly going to have them show up and have us just ignore them. We'll probably talk to them before this whole thing is over.
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Big update coming
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The night's serenity is shattered by the once alien sounds that herald the Aeldari's arrival. The rhythmic humming of anti-gravitic generators, joined by a chorus of the nearly imperceptible thrum of the turbo engines that power the miraculous devices. Raising your head from the long, bowed, and red lacquered tea table you've been busying yourself to prepare, you tilt it to angle your ear towards the mist shrouded heavens to see if you could hear the whisper quite melody of Aethersails upon the gentle twilight breeze. The incense sticks you have lighted, scented with ground lotus blossom, briefly grow brighter as the wind washes against them and expedites their burning. The white smoke trails off into the fog, mingling and becoming lost with it as you return your attention back to the table lined with tea wares, and the fire you have carefully tended nearby. The water in the kettle has to maintain a gentle temperature, as you have decided to share with the Aeldari a young white tea flavored with Jasmine flowers, and thus must avoiding scalding or boiling the leaves themselves.

With a clay pot gifted to you by an artisan from nothing, carved with the heraldry of all of the "Virtuous Lines" as the common folk have come to know the nobility who rose in rebellion against the Yan, you begin to carefully measure and judge the weight of the leaves against its volume, to determine the exact ratio to make for a pleasing cup of tea. With glass cups laid out on either side of the table, like two armies marching against the fairness pitcher between them, all of which have been preheated, you grab the kettle by its leather wrapped handle, and wash the leaves as the dark of the first hours of night is illuminated by the approaching space craft.

The incense are snuff out, as the air fills with the fragrance of fresh jasmine as you pour off the wash across the boards face. Electric powered lanterns rattle against the gale called up by the peculiar vessels landing. It differs from the vehicles fielded by the raiders, in both design and color. Softer edges, less insectile ridges, now scythes or spikes adorning it. It is colored a hue of green that to your mind calls forth memory of the first growths of spring. It's center is ridged by bands of an exotic, alien alloy of metal arranged like ribs. The star ship itself is vaguely shaped into the image of bird's beak, long like a night's crane. Now that it has landed, you can see its under hull is colored more darkly than the rest of the vessels armor.

Carefully, you adjust the cups and position Amaethon's soul stone besides one of his own, and set the kettle to return to the precise temperature Old Lady Liu recommends for White tea leaf. The Ship hovers above the abandoned fortress of the Cui, slowly descending to the center of its barren courtyard, where you sit alone.

As expected, the water is reheated as the lightly armed vessel lands, its end facing towards you
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>>5029416

Giving the impression of a titanic sparrow that has come to roost among dust and twigs. A hatch opens with a hiss, steam escaping to be swallowed by the surrounding mists as a party of some two dozen figures still shrouded by the escaping mist fall into formation, lead by a figure more ornately dressed and armored. Behind them, still seated, you can see Carys and her fellows, patiently awaiting their release onto Shangrala.

You can't help but smirk, as the envoys pause, confused for a second by the readings given by the various sensors and simulated senses of their helmet's visors. Quickly, they realize the fog and mist is what is interfering with their unnatural advantage, but with a few gestures of his hand, the leader removes his hawk like helmet, his darkened eyes surveying the courtyard as his underlings spread out, fiddling with arcane devices upon their wrists. Many of them are armored and dressed in a fashion that suggests they are elites or specialists.

The silent leader, with his hair tied into a high ponytail, glances down at the tea board set before you, and the woolen cushion waiting opposite of yourself. You wordlessly motion for him to take a seat, which he does so, after some hesitation. His eyes narrowed with unease as he watches you steep tea, clearly somewhat disgusted by the concept of drinking an infusion made from leaves.

His eyes narrow further as he spots the spirit stone resting in the corner of the board, and reaches for it as his men encircle the both of you, warry and sharp eyed.

You halt the motion with a raised hand, which you then gesture to the tea board. The Aeldari shudders in revulsion as he understands you quiet demand, slapping his hands upon his knees to steel his resolve as you pour the first steep of tea into the pitcher, turning it completely upside down and holding its lid in place with your thumb as you wait for the last few drops of the two hundred millimeters of water to pour out. The Envoy grimly considers the still dry leaf presented upon a leaf fashioned from celadon glazed clay.

Ponderously, you pour the tea into each cup, filling them with a golden hued liquor that steams, its edges filled by a light covering of bubbles.

Setting the pot down, and removing its lid to avoid steam the tea inside, you nod, and slap your own hands upon your knees and smile.

"Greetings, envoy of the Aeldari" You toast, raising your glass into the the air as the envoy uneasily does the same.

"Ceremony is unnecessary, but I understand it is meant as an honor, so I will partake, savior of Lost Amaethon" The Warrior replies gruffly, sampling the aroma of the tea, his smiling face contorting into one of horror as you sip the masterfully scented elixir, it tastes of jasmine and honey, with subtle notes of hay, cream and river berries. You swirl the tea around your mouth, watching the Aeldari mimic the action with clear revulsion of the refreshingly sweet taste.
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>>5029417

"Tah" He huffs, steam rising from his mouth "How your people can partake of a heated beverage derived from tannin rich leaves, I cannot comprehend, but I must admire the artistry behind the presentation, now to the matter at hand"

"Amaethon's return to Kher-Ys" You answer without need, as you watch the surrounding warriors, sipping from your own cup calmly as they remain alert and ready to strike at the very sight of potential treachery or danger "Though the exchange could take but a moment, I wish to treat my guests cordially and thus before we part I have a story to share"

"I shall accept this delay, if only because, despite the suspicion of our leaders, I have nothing but respect for the warrior who slew Cearnarch and seek to repay his geniality in kind, foolish as it may be" The man says kindly, daring another sip of tea, his eyes narrowing in his distaste for the brew "Like their shaming of Farseer Carys, it was an overreaction, though one not without reason"

"I rarely take offense towards insults directed at me, there's no reason in becoming enraged by such petty things" You answer with a shrug "And I thank you in turn for your cordiality, and from your approach I am certain you will appreciate the story I intend to tell"

"Oh?" The warrior asks curiously, as he tries another sip of tea, and swirls the cup, clearly finding the taste less repugnant at the third tasting

"It is one that always captures the imagination and hearts of those who hear it, in its many forms and variations, the one I share, is the most truthful for I was there to witness it personally and play my part" You answer with a warming smile, nodding as the events of that night return to you "And, from my discussions with Amaethon, a warrior of the Aeldari should find a particular enjoyment in this tale and...well when it is ended you should know why"

"All you have asked for in return was knowledge for another, it is only reasonable to listen to such a meek request in exchange for the invaluable soul of our kinsmen, though I cannot pretend that your description has not intrigued me" The envoy states calmly, reaching for another cup to replace his now emptied one.

You clear your throat with a long drink from your, and delve into your memories to that fateful meeting between a cruel lord and gentle visionary

"We sit in the abandoned Hall of the Cui dynasty, a family of warriors without peer beneath the heavens. For generations, the Carps of the Cui sought power and martial skill that could not be rivaled within the kingdom of Yan or without" You begin your tale, the fogs shifting almost as if the ghosts of the past walk amongst you now "Whether through undergoing trials that would kill lesser men, training tirelessly or throwing themselves into battle and war, the Cui's lifestyle was one of constant struggle and danger, a life designed to cultivate might and strength."
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>>5029419

"There were no weak men within the Cui, those who did not meet their standards did not live to be recorded or even named"

You set down your cup and sigh through your nose, gauging the Aeldari's response with a glance. You've managed to keep his attention, and his curiosity, as he tries to discern the meaning of this story from its beginnings.

"They cared not for wealth, disdained comfort and the weaknesses they imagined it to bring, they bred for might, stature and strength rather than connections. Through Eugenics, they surpassed the limitations of the human body and become the very embodiment of violence" You state, noticing a flicker of recognition in the envoys eyes, he must believe this is a story of a lineage that fell beneath Kong Nue's sway, smirking you continue your retelling "None were their equal in battle or war, such were the fruits of their long journey for physical perfection had borne. But the road they walked was endless, and they did not understand it themselves. They believed the pain and suffering they had endured had made them strong, not their breeding"

That confused the Aeldari, grabbing a spare cup, you continue your tale

"That comfort and ease of living was poison not only to the body, but the soul itself. The wastes you see around you, were wrought by their hand, to force their subjects to live brutal lives of struggle and hardship, so their army would become as strong as themselves. Once one of the more fertile regions of the Yan kingdom, the misrule of the Cui ever loyal to the liege the Lord of Gao, had seen it become a hell upon earth, where herbivores became predators and men became bandits" You continue on, lingering resentment seeping into your words like venom into a wound "The Last lord of the Cui, the last member of their family, was a peerless warrior, proud and honorable by the name of Fu. He served the Gao more loyally than his predecessors, and followed the wastrel lord like loyal hound. I met him, while carrying out the command of the late lord Gao, to make "All of his lands as Jade" with prosperity and wealth"

You set down your tea cup and sigh

"And I hated the man I met, he refused and impeded me at every juncture, fearing I sought to weaken and poison the lands and their people by connecting the lands and making the road safe and ensuring that they would fear no disease, famine or winter" You hiss through your teeth "But, despite his stubbornness and hatred of me, he was the only member of the old nobility who realized I was no mere servant. I had planned the downfall of Lord Gao since I entered his service, and only used my position to benefit the lands and their people and to spread prosperity and plenty. While Cui Fu thought I was a sorcerer opening the gates for a hellish host of demons, preparing the land for invasion by weakening its inhabitants, he knew I could not be trusted as a fellow servant even if he could not act upon his suspicions"
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>>5029421

The envoy nods, thinking he has guessed what course the story will take.

"Cui Fu was loyal, despite his brutishness, and I was favored by his master. He could not strike me without betraying himself, and I could not save his lands and subjects as neither he nor his master would allow me to revitalize them without his permission, so valued was his strength" You continued on, swirling the tea in your hand "So, I turned the master against the dog. Through Manipulation and deceit, I spun a conspiracy against myself, which had no knowledge of my involvement in its establishment. Cui Fu, being one of the highest lords in the region and being well known for his disdain of myself and my efforts, was sought out by them to be the foundation of their assault against the "Wicked man" who had "Enthralled" their "Noble liege""

"They thought themselves heroes" The envoy notes

"Only Cui Fu, the rest feared my influence and the changes I wrought upon society and the number of corpses of officials and nobles left in my passing" You explain "Cui Fu, truly believed his lord to be enchanted by a malevolent force, and out of honest loyalty he disgraced himself to act in the shadows to find allies not yet "Corrupted" by his enemy so he may save his master and the lands from my influence. The gospel of his family had blinded him to reality, and he could not accept that men could be strong without struggle, without suffering. If Lord Gao fell, Cui Fu would find like a rabid dog to avenge him. So, before Gao, the Cui had to fall"

The envoy shifts, and nods for you to continue.

"Through treachery, I opened the path to the grave of the Cui. A few altered letters, and Gao believed he had been betrayed by the vassal he trusted most dearly. And in his rage, ordered me to bring him Cui Fu's head" You say solemnly "With my personal guard, and hunting companions, the inn the conspirators met in was surrounded. I Called out to him, stating my hatred for him and my intent to honor him with a final battle"

A confused look passes through the Aeldari's eyes. He had expected a final treachery, perhaps the inn being lit ablaze or crushed with rocks, or peppered with arrows.

"While the vermin who had surrounded him fled in a panic at my approach, Cui Fu met his death with dignity and poise I have seen few men uphold even in life" You state sorrowfully "He was the first, and so far only mortal man to meet me in single combat utterly unafraid. With a mighty kick, the door of the inner was splintered by his boot. We exchanged words and took our stances. In my hands a Guandao sized for a giant, in his, an unadorned sword. With the plain blade, he achieved a feat few men have replicated. He landed a blow upon me, and fought with such ferocity an observer would be unaware of his mounting injuries. Shattered ribs, bruised organs, and a broken wrist. Yet even when his first sword was taken from his hands, he fought with daggers"
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>>5029423

You laughed

"Almost drew blood, A feat few spirits can claim" You continue, smile turning to a frown "With his own blade, I crippled him with a flurry of blows, cutting tendons like weeds. The peerless warrior could no longer defend himself, but he didn't die. He didn't die even when I drove his own sword through his neck. In his final moments, he immortalized himself in my memory. Not out of fear as he hoped, but out of respect. Broken, crippled, he tried to lift my discarded Guandao, an impossible feat for most men even while uninjured, but Cui Fu refused to die like a dog. I took his head, and as he feared, changed his lands and slew the master who had betrayed him"

"You said you hated this noble, yet speak of him as a fallen friend" The envoy questions, you nod

"I hated the man he was, and mourn the man who could have become had I been born a few years earlier. I have found few men who equal Fu in Valor, and fewer yet who could even provide him a challenge in a martial contest" You admit "His grave is not far from here, I returned his skull to his body after presenting it to his treacherous lord. I grieve for the Cui Fu that could have been my friend, and I grieve for the loss of a rare talent. It is possible I shall never again meet a warrior as naturally skilled as Cui Fu. His death was a tragedy"

"It was his fate to end up as the brute he became, there was no changing his destiny. Despite the qualities in him you admire, he was doomed to be a dog of war" The Aeldari answers, setting down his third tea cup "I know why you knew this story would entertain me, Cui Fu fell like Kaela Mensha Khaine despite being mortal. I am sure, if I had been witness to the battle as well, I would weep for his passing as you have"

The envoy reaches for the soul stone, believing the meeting to be done. You grab hold of his wrist.

"Fate is naught but the salve of fools" You say coldly "Cui Fu could have changed, if I had only met him in his youth. The belief you Aeldari hold, that destiny is preordained, is one I cannot accept"

"Fate can be changed, but only with great effort and sacrifice for anything beyond the subtlest of changes" He answers, looking into your eyes unafraid "You may reject the existence of destiny, but it will come. History only has a few courses it can take"

"A river can be redirected, but one can also be dug with the toil of men" You say sternly, locking gazes with him "As easily as a path is paved"

"You argue in defense of your philosophy, as you were tempted to do when you approached Kher-Ys" He says calmly "I shall bow to your request, if only to prevent a soul as noble as your own to be poisoned by naivety and misplaced trust. Fate cannot be avoided, only chosen. No matter how powerful a living being is, from birth to death, there are only so many roads they can take throughout their life. Some end more quickly than others, but in the end, they cannot overcome what was written before they took their first breath"
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>>5029424

"Or can you only see the nearest branches? do you refuse to strive to measure infinity. Every action ripples, no matter how minute it is. Fate cannot be set in stone, because all is ever changing by the decisions of the living!' You bark "To claim all men are bound by the web of destiny, is to be blind to its true scope. But that is not what irks me"

"Unity is strength, you claim" The envoy answers without prompting "That belief will be your downfall. Giving ones trust to many, leaves one open to deceit and treachery. Accepting aid when you can achieve your goals personally, is to choose to be weak. Slowing your pace to match another will only doom both of you. Knives are often hidden behind smiles, and open minds are easily assailed and ruined"

"An army of mice can devour a lion, Jackals hunt in packs and can kill lone hunters. Condemning another to death for your own benefit, will ensure none will come to give you aid in your time of need" You rebuke "Trust is the foundation of unity, upon which walls stronger than those built upon isolated sands can be raised. Expecting treachery invites it, and an open mind is more prepared for the unexpected than one closed and shuttered from the world"

"Tch' The envoy clicks his tongue, planning his own rebuttal as tears flow from his eyes as he forces himself to endure your direct focus "A pack of wolves is more natural than a herd of mixed livestock, they outlast both hunters and lions and are stronger than mice. Knowing when one cannot be saved and ensuring the survival of those who can is paramount. Expecting aid to come from without, is akin to opening your door in winter and expecting warmth. A foundation built on the trust of many, is more likely to be sabotaged than one made from the trust of kinsmen. Treachery will come no matter what you expect, and a unguarded mind will weather all temptation"

"Wolves may predate a farmer's herd, but the ox or the farmer himself will drive them off, and then the lambs will chew upon their bones" You reply, grinning as you start to enjoy this verbal sparring match "Come spring, the herd will rear more young than the wolves and grow all the strong for it. Refusing aid because it is hard, dangerous or stated to be "Impossible" the first step on the road of selfishness. But an open door may find a friend enter, bearing gifts and logs for the fire. A shorter wall is breached easier than one that spans the horizon. Believing every smile to hide deceit, will leave you with no allies against treachery. And a mind that has closed itself off to protect itself, will not recognize danger that can overcome its defenses! Like, that which originates from the heart"

"We're going in circles" The envoy spits, turning away from your gaze

"So you admit defeat?" You ask with a shining grin, eyes merry as you relish the sweet taste of victory

"Chrr, A farmers herd will be the first to be taken by a raiding army." Your opponent replies
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>>5029426

"The new calves will only suffer when they are born and quickly die off, while the wolves pups will be safe with the pack. Endangering yourselves and others for those who will not appreciate your efforts, is the action of a idealistic imbecil. Who would brave the storms of winter to bring wood to another family, when their own is freezing. A shorter wall is more easily manned and guarded! Excepting aid from all who have called you friend will leave you overconfident when you are betrayed. A mind that is properly trained, will know every danger that can threaten it"

You laugh uproariously, and down a cup of tea in one gulp

"But that same herd would be protected by an army fed by their meat, and clothed in their wool. The old generation dies to defend the new. A farm is safer than the wilds, and if the pups become lost, they will not be searched for like the calves." You reply happily, unintimidated by the Aeldari's rebuttal " And choosing who to save based on on gratitude given, is the action of a cynic who will one day find himself the abandoned. A virtuous man would! And they are many if they are encouraged to act as such! like wolves tamed into dogs, or a man indebted to another who risked their life to save their own! Or one who "dared" to believe the common good in the hearts of not just his own breed, but all others. A wall built in a remote local, disconnected from all others, and manned only by those who built it, will receive no reinforcements in a siege . Knowing Aid will come, will leave you unafraid to rely on it. And"

You grin and lean close enough to place your forehead upon the envoy's own

"And to believe that you will know every danger that could assail a mind or heart, is to admit your own ignorance. Merely restraining one's emotions until they wither and die, will leave the heart weak to them when their seeds are planted anew. One cannot close their minds off to the common desires of living beings, the urges of our bodies and souls" You whisper "Believing a wall to be impenetrable, proves its weakness have yet to be found and exploited"

"We will argue until time ends" He mutters, and you know, he is trying to force a draw

"So, you accept defeat then?" You question, he gives no reply, but his downcast expression and that he does not offer a new string of rebuttals, answers the question in place of words "You lasted longer than most debating me"

"Was there a point to this excessive in irritation?" He asks as you release his wrist, and pluck the soul stone from the table and place it into his outstretched palm

"Satisfaction" You answer as he glowers "Now you cannot call my world view foolish"

"Sweetened poison" He says beneath his breath "You're a cunning creature, Lieren, I understand your society considers it rude to not meet without exchanging names, Mine is Cadwgan. And I will not seek to debate with men of your caliber, less my defenses be further weakened"
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>>5029427

You chuckle and raise a glass to him, bowing your head as he turns to leave, motioning for his men to follow him. He is unaware you have slipped a sachet of tea seeds into the creases of his armor

"A craft will be left for farseer Carys and her Cadre to return to their own craftworld, when they have complete whatever pilgrimage has brought them to this mist shrouded realm" Cadwgan says plainly "I must thank you again, for returning Amaethon to our fold, Lieren, may the fates be kind enough that we next meet as friends"

And with that, they exchange places with Carys upon the vessel, bringing a smaller one from the depths of their own with the aid of her followers, and leave them in the courtyard as they ascend to the heavens

A few fall to their knees in reverence, the crying eyes on their arm painted over with the lotus of the journey.

Carys approaches you, still wearing the regalia of a farseer, though the eye like visors have been dimmed, showing they were unpowered

"He had to flee to keep from joining us in effective exile" She muses, watching the ship fade into the distance "The duel was as impressive as the Cui Fu's must have been, by your brief description of the event"


What do you do, Lieren?

>Address Carys cordially, and ask her the reason for her pilgrimage, and how she became a follower of the journey

>Offer the Aeldari tea and welcome them to Shangrala, offer to guide them wherever it is they need to travel

>Shake your head, and state the verbal sparring was nothing compared to Cui Fu's last stand. Cui Fu knew when he was defeated, but did not relent.

>Bring the Aeldari to the sanctum of the wanderers in the fog, so Guozhi may meet Carys again

>Ask Carys if her people would be willing to aid you in freeing Kanzeon and finding her sisters

>Write in
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>>5029429
>>Address Carys cordially, and ask her the reason for her pilgrimage, and how she became a follower of the journey
>>Bring the Aeldari to the sanctum of the wanderers in the fog, so Guozhi may meet Carys again
>>Ask Carys if her people would be willing to aid you in freeing Kanzeon and finding her sisters. But only finding them. If they have similar memories of the Eldar as Kanzeon does, it would be best to approach them yourself.
I like Cadwgan.
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>>5029429
>Shake your head, and state the verbal sparring was nothing compared to Cui Fu's last stand. Cui Fu knew when he was defeated, but did not relent.
>Address Carys cordially, and ask her the reason for her pilgrimage, and how she became a follower of the journey
>Bring the Aeldari to the sanctum of the wanderers in the fog, so Guozhi may meet Carys again
I'd ask for their help with the upcoming conflicts and the reclamation of Kanzeon's sisters, but we just met them and they're pretty much stranded in the middle of bumfuck nowhere for a while.
We don't really have any right to impose upon them like that.
>>5029431
>I like Cadwgan.
I'm sure he'll become fast friends with Lieren in the coming decades.
That or he'll just drop by to sample some tea every once in a while.
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>>5029429
>Address Carys cordially, and ask her the reason for her pilgrimage, and how she became a follower of the journey


>Shake your head, and state the verbal sparring was nothing compared to Cui Fu's last stand. Cui Fu knew when he was defeated, but did not relent.

>Bring the Aeldari to the sanctum of the wanderers in the fog, so Guozhi may meet Carys again

>Ask Carys if her people would be willing to aid you in freeing Kanzeon and finding her sisters
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>>5029429
>Write in
Speak to the gathered Aldari as old friends, and offer them a boon to aid them on their Journey. Teach them the psyker technique to draw upon your might should they ever come to harm's way, and gift them Null Denouncement Charms of your own make, to keep them safe or anyone they deem in need of saving.
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>>5029431
>Imagine
>circa a decade from now
>Cadwgan doffs all armor and regalia when he returns to his home
>goes deep into the basement
>we're talking deep with dead bolts on the doors
>nigga got magic elf lamps to grow the seeds we gave him
>dude just binges on making combination of teas he secretly sents to some exodite bros
>writing poetry in his space book as he listens to space lo-fi music
>his man cave is so chill it's off putting to slaneshi daemons and scares them away
>dude even has cute sweaters and scarves for the ceramic plant pots

>>5029440
Sorta same. On one hand, any help would be nice. On the other, they dont need to help us, but I have a feeling they might try to help us in some regard. I do wish to pay our secret friend back for the two times she's helped us, and I feel bad as it is to ask again.
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>>5029429
>Address Carys cordially, and ask her the reason for her pilgrimage, and how she became a follower of the journey
>Offer the Aeldari tea and welcome them to Shangrala, offer to guide them wherever it is they need to travel
>Bring the Aeldari to the sanctum of the wanderers in the fog, so Guozhi may meet Carys again
>Ask Carys if her people would be willing to aid you in freeing Kanzeon and finding her sisters
Man, I was worried the Eldar would be pricks, but Cadwgan was a good sport.
I like him.
We gotta send him tips on how to brew good tea.

>>5029440
Asking them for help with Kanzeon should be fine, they can just say no. Even a technique they might share would help. And hey if Kanzeon is freed we could travel the stars and actually help the Eldar physically, if we need to. Asking with help for war would be a bit much though, I agree.
>they're pretty much stranded in the middle of bumfuck nowhere for a while.
I believe Cadwgan left them a craft to leave with.
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>>5029429
>>Address Carys cordially, and ask her the reason for her pilgrimage, and how she became a follower of the journey
>>Offer the Aeldari tea and welcome them to Shangrala, offer to guide them wherever it is they need to travel
>>Shake your head, and state the verbal sparring was nothing compared to Cui Fu's last stand. Cui Fu knew when he was defeated, but did not relent.
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>>5029429
>Address Carys cordially, and ask her the reason for her pilgrimage, and how she became a follower of the journey
>Offer the Aeldari tea and welcome them to Shangrala, offer to guide them wherever it is they need to travel
>Bring the Aeldari to the sanctum of the wanderers in the fog, so Guozhi may meet Carys again
That was good. There is still hope for Kher-Ys even if we did not do the divination, Amaethon was trying to stop catastrophe he had seen in prophecy, so he may be able to tell the rest of the infinity circuit that the Autarch and his daughter are idiots.
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>>5029429
>Address Carys cordially, and ask her the reason for her pilgrimage, and how she became a follower of the journey

>Offer the Aeldari tea and welcome them to Shangrala, offer to guide them wherever it is they need to travel
>Bring the Aeldari to the sanctum of the wanderers in the fog, so Guozhi may meet Carys again
>Ask Carys if her people would be willing to aid you in freeing Kanzeon and finding her sisters
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>>5029440
>they're pretty much stranded in the middle of bumfuck nowhere for a while
Came here in two ships, Cadwgan and the Kher-Ys guardians left in one.
>>5029515
>inb4 cadwgan is so chill he single-handedly stops the Heartslayer's invasion of Kher-Ys
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>>5029429
>Shake your head
Man, Cui Fu wouldnt have bent or broke.

>Ask about her pilgrimage
>Offer tea

We will know about these space elves.
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>>5029429
>>Address Carys cordially, and ask her the reason for her pilgrimage, and how she became a follower of the journey
>>Bring the Aeldari to the sanctum of the wanderers in the fog, so Guozhi may meet Carys again
>>Ask Carys if her people would be willing to aid you in freeing Kanzeon and finding her sisters. But only finding them. If they have similar memories of the Eldar as Kanzeon does, it would be best to approach them yourself.

Gift them the journey book
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>>5029725
Space book good.
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>>5029725
Supporting giving a copy of our book.
Shame we don't have a version in aeldari, but maybe we can give them a Long-Jia dictionary to help.
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>>5029725
Adding gifting a the journey to>>5029576
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>>5029429
>Address Carys cordially, and ask her the reason for her pilgrimage, and how she became a follower of the journey

>Offer the Aeldari tea and welcome them to Shangrala, offer to guide them wherever it is they need to travel
>Ask Carys if her people would be willing to aid you in freeing Kanzeon and finding her sisters

Poor girlyman, cucking him out of his Eldar waifu so soon.
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>>5029643
>>5029725
adding my support to giving them a copy of the journey
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>>5029429
>>Address Carys cordially, and ask her the reason for her pilgrimage, and how she became a follower of the journey
>>Offer the Aeldari tea and welcome them to Shangrala, offer to guide them wherever it is they need to travel
>>Bring the Aeldari to the sanctum of the wanderers in the fog, so Guozhi may meet Carys again
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>>5029902
Not cucking, just making it so he won't be treading any new ground.
Real shit though, I wonder if any of our brothers are gonna fall for Kanzeon's sisters. Watching a giant, emotionally-stunted transhuman deal with something like nerves when talking to a woman would be really funny.
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>>5029429
>Address Carys cordially, and ask her the reason for her pilgrimage, and how she became a follower of the journey
>Shake your head, and state the verbal sparring was nothing compared to Cui Fu's last stand. Cui Fu knew when he was defeated, but did not relent.
>Bring the Aeldari to the sanctum of the wanderers in the fog, so Guozhi may meet Carys again
>Ask Carys if her people would be willing to aid you in freeing Kanzeon and finding her sisters
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>>5030073
That would depend on the brother, obviously, and maybe on whether or not they took human forms as well, since I doubt all the Primarchs are autistic enough to develop a crush through pure conversation.
Pimp Lieren hooking his bros up with chicks
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>>5030097
>whether or not they took human forms as well
I assumed they would, since Kanzeon has and she seems to be the leader, so to speak. First among equals, maybe. Or I'm just reading a bit too in to the motherly sentiment she expresses.
>since I doubt all the Primarchs are autistic enough to develop a crush through pure conversation.
Good thing too, since we only have 3-7 women to matchmake with. Perty could be on sight though, seeing something he doesn't immediately know the workings and function of might be enough to do it.
>Pimp Lieren hooking his bros up with chicks
I mean, we already wear fur...
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>>5030115
>I mean, we already wear fur...
And some purple silk too.
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>>5030184
So what I'm gathering is that all we're missing is a dope hat and cane. We can stop by a hattery for the former, but for the latter I think we need an item from Chinese mythology... If only there was a staff or scepter or something that could shrink down to cane size and made thematic sense for Lieren to have, what with all the Sun Wukong analogs...
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>>5030115
"my name is a pimp called leiren, you gotta say the whole thaing"
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Anyone feel like mastering the siddhi?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siddhi
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>>5029911
screw it also voting >to ask for help freeing Kanzeon and finding her sisters
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>>5030198
dude let it go.
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>>5030216
Leiren the gold eyed pimp
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>>5030265
Never happening.
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>>5030265
No chance in hell, Anon.
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>>5030255
Seems like something we'd find suppressed in the Vishnu lands. Khorne hates (almost) any kind of psykers, if there's an order there, they might be a good place to spread rebellion against Nitya from.
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>>5030265
I'm impartial to the magic extending stick, but anon's dedication to it means they have my support.
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>>5030286
The "stick" is representative of Buddhist siddhi I think. Hell the entirity of Journey to the West is basically a propaganda peice to show how much superior Buddhism is to Daoism.
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>>5030286
It shrinks and duplicates too!
>>5030294
>how much superior Buddhism is to Daoism
There's little doubt in my mind that in 10,000-odd years, our story will be used in a similar way to show how much superior some bastardized version of the Journey is to literally anything else.
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>>5030294
I know, the monkey king kicks the ass of all of heaven, but can't defeat buddha on a simple challenge.
Than turns out that the rock only became that powerful because it had a bit of budha's soul/chi/blood/whatever on it to begin with.
I'm impartial to getting it in the quest. If it's possible and the opportunity presents itself, I'm all for it, but I would not go out of our way searching for artifacts hoping we luck out.
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>>5029429
>Shake your head, and state the verbal sparring was nothing compared to Cui Fu's last stand. Cui Fu knew when he was defeated, but did not relent.
>Address Carys cordially, and ask her the reason for her pilgrimage, and how she became a follower of the journey
>Offer the Aeldari tea and welcome them to Shangrala, offer to guide them wherever it is they need to travel
>Ask Carys if her people would be willing to aid you in freeing Kanzeon and finding her sisters
Hoping barely missing that divination vote didn't doom the craft world, hopefully Magnus will get his study session via astrally projecting to the craft world and he will be in the right place at the right time.
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>>5030485
One thing I’ve wondered is why we have never offered to lend Magnus the truth seeing eyes.
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>>5030485
Hard to say. I can see Amaethon's spirit being able to convince some of the population of the danger, but the craftworld itself might not survive if all we do is return the stone. I was thinking that after our adherents are ready to leave Shangrala, they could go run some errands for us. Making the Journey available to other worlds, taking Magnus a gift basket, keeping an eye on Kher-Ys and the Autarch's daughter (we'll have to divine their fate for ourselves to learn of such things), maybe even bringing dad our address.
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>>5030485
Honestly, even if we did divine their fate it might not have changed much.
It would depend on Cadwgan accepting a primitive form of prophecy, from a man that preaches that fate is bullshit to begin with. Not only that but he would have to go over the authority of the autarch, and Kher-Ys leadership seems to be a bunch of idiots.
But maybe with Amaethon warnings of doom, some followers of the journey over the craftworld and and having a way to contact us, they may be able to flee if it falls with some soulstones
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>>5029429
>Address Carys cordially, and ask her the reason for her pilgrimage, and how she became a follower of the journey
>Ask Carys if her people would be willing to aid you in freeing Kanzeon and finding her sisters
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>>5029429
>>Address Carys cordially, and ask her the reason for her pilgrimage, and how she became a follower of the journey
>>Ask Carys if her people would be willing to aid you in freeing Kanzeon and finding her sisters
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Calling the vote now.

Address Carys cordially, and ask her the reason for her pilgrimage, and how she became a follower of the journey:15

Bring the Aeldari to the sanctum of the wanderers in the fog, so Guozhi may meet Carys again:9

Ask Carys if her people would be willing to aid you in freeing Kanzeon and finding her sisters.:11
-But only finding them. If they have similar memories of the Eldar as Kanzeon does, it would be best to approach them yourself.:2

Shake your head, and state the verbal sparring was nothing compared to Cui Fu's last stand. Cui Fu knew when he was defeated, but did not relent.:6

Speak to the gathered Aldari as old friends, and offer them a boon to aid them on their Journey. Teach them the psyker technique to draw upon your might should they ever come to harm's way, and gift them Null Denouncement Charms of your own make, to keep them safe or anyone they deem in need of saving.: 1

Offer the Aeldari tea and welcome them to Shangrala, offer to guide them wherever it is they need to travel:8

Gift them a copy of the Journey:5

Total votes: 17

So, you'll offer them tea and to guide them where ever they need to travel, addressing them cordially and also asking Carys the reason for her pilgrimage, backstory and if she would be willing to aid you in freeing kanzeon and finding her sisters

Before bringing them to the sanctuary of the wanderers in the fog for the time being, for their safety and so Guozhi may meet Carys in person.

Writing now
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As she speaks, you return to the cushion you set for yourself, returning to your seat across the tea board, quickly rearranging the placement of glass cups so they'll ring the edge of the long, lacquered board. With a few flicks of your wrist, you collect the excess cups, leaving only enough for yourself, Carys, and her Cadre. With another motion, you dry the table with a plain, undyed cloth, which you then wrap around the base of the tea pot to help it preserve the heat of the water poured into it. One of the gathered alien acolytes, dressed uniquely in the long, trailing leather coat they wear over their back and shoulders and the hood pulled over their helmeted visage, watches your movements closely with a familiar air revealed through the subtle shifts in his stance and presence.

He is a hunter, of sorts. The way he holds himself and the swift yet subtle movements of his head and neck are all to familiar to you. For you have trained quiet a few hunters of this Aeldari's caliber, and consider them both your brothers and friends. Smiling, you unfurl your arms, spreading them in a welcoming gesture to the farseer and her followers

"May this humble traveler be the first to welcome you all to Shangrala's mist shrouded valleys and fog veiled peaks" You proclaim friendly, the warmth of your voice surmounting the subtle chill of the night's air "And may I also offer you the tea that was intended to be shared with your escorts, it is a young tea but masterfully flavored by an artisans hands. A simple comfort, to share with friends"

Carys turns to face you, hesitating for a moment before nodding as if she were affirming her decision to herself. Grasping between the well hidden seam separating her helmet from the rest of her light armor, she leads her companions in revealing their faces. And as you had already inferred from her uncertain movements and ponderous gait, The Farseer from Ulthwe is blind. A strip of silken cloth is wrapped tightly around her eyes, or the pits where her eyes once sat, and bears the Lotus mark of the Journey, burned into the fibers by a careful hand. Her hair hangs limply and ungroomed, falling past her cheeks and down her back, as if she were in mourning. The color of it reminds you of Lord Lai, like unroasted chestnuts

The hunter is the next to remove his mask, revealing a handsome face, marred in a similar manner to your friend and former guard Zian, the tear in his cheek revealing the pearl white teeth beneath. From a quick study of the scarring, you can tell the weapon that had made it was of the most brutal kind. Similar to the saw toothed axe wielded by the Vishnu Madman, but judging from the tears in his musculature, built for even larger hands. His hair is slate, flecked with darker and lighter strands, and shorn short except for a knot tied near the base of his scalp.

The others, are as Aeldari often are, beautiful in an alien way.
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>>5030725

At a glance, many men would be both awed and terrified by their appearance, their features looking just human enough to be unsettling. But only if one looks to them as they would another man, rather than an Aeldari. There is a beauty, beyond their human likeness, in each of their faces. The alien element of their appearance, that which is truly Aeldari. Indeed, what surprises you the most is the variety of hair colors they possess!

In silence, they take their places around the table, kneeling on the cold soil to allow Carys the cushion opposite of yourself. Holding a tea cup in the air, you watch them, some more willing than others, take the glasses offered to them and mimic the gesture. Some gag on the tea, others admire its mouthfeel and taste.

"It is an honor to finally meet you, Lieren of Nothing" Carys states almost meekly as she gently guides her cup back to the table between you "Though, I have met you thrice before this fateful meeting, even if you were unaware of my presence at the time"

"It is I who should be honored to meet you, Farseer, to at last meet the "spirit" who I am indebted to. You had lent me your aid during my unwilling tribulation" You answer merrily, chuckling as you set your cup down and wait for the others to finish their portions of tea before steeping the leaves again "I must express my humble gratitude for the assistance you gave at my most dire hour"

"Though you do not know it, I am indebted to you and your greatest work. It would be akin to rejecting the same teachings that have lead me to the path I now walk, to not do all in my power to help you and protect others" She states without the barest hint of pride

"That does not mean you are undeserving of praise and gratitude" You reply with a nod, pouring steaming water into the tea pot as you address Carys "Though that does bring a curiosity of mine to the surface of my mind. How exactly you learned of the Journey and its lessons"

Carys bows her head, as a few of the younger Aeldari look away awkwardly. It would seem you had stumbled onto a topic they wished to avoid. Then the farseer grins, revealing her porcelain white teeth.

"I witnessed your revelation of universal truth, by sheer happenstance I was baptized by the fires of your realization, and was so enlightened by them in turn" She says, the implications of her words tying a knot in your stomach "In exchange for the privledge of witnessing the birth of the golden sea, my vision of the material world was stolen from me"

Guilt shadows your mind, and weighs down you heart, leaving a cold weight in your chest. Though you had no idea actualizing a portion of enlightenment could endanger others, it is still an injury caused by your actions however distantly

"However, in return, the veil was wholly lifted from my sight and no longer was I blind to the truth of the world around me"
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>>5030727

"Like emerging from a dark lake, I was at last exposed to the light and could see what my kinfolk still in the depths refused to perceive" She explained cheerily, as if losing her eyes was a lesser wound than cutting one's fingertip upon a needle "Though I only knew the wisdom revealed to you upon your psionic awakening, my interaction with the old soul you know now as Guozhi, allowed me to gleam the entirety of your world view to properly initiate my like minded compatriots into the eightfold path denounced and turned inwards, as we know your "Journey""

"I am sorry for the pain I have caused you, accidental as the wound may have been. It shows you possess a strong virtue of forgiveness" You say quietly, ashamed of the damaged caused by the ripples of a single meditation

"Don't be. What are eyes compared to truth? If one only sees a great cosmic lie before, they will not be overtly attached to the illusion of life and the material universe, just as they will not fear what awaits them lurking in the dark" She says, as chipperly as a maiden in the company of the one she admires

"Well perhaps I could assure my own guilt and repay the slight I feel I have inflicted upon you, by escorting you wherever you pilgrims need to travel to here, it is after all my home" You state, at first meek but more confidently as you raise your head before a question dominates your thoughts "What has brought you travelers of the stars to Shangrala anyways"

"Can you not see, even with your eyes blessed to pierce the veil of falsehood to look upon the truth of all things?" Carys cackles, the hunter smirks and shakes his head

"We came to meet you, and offer you our aid. Carys has foreseen cataclysm upon the road you lay, and has twice worked to avert them" He answers, before glowering "And the young and foolish among our kin, have become tiresome in their fretting and warnings of the path we walk"

"Petty tyrants they may be, we can no longer coexist among them and the rigid world they have built" A young girl sighs "Some of us, have come to prove the Journey can coexist with the paths of the Aeldari"

"Or simply because we are able and willing to help" Another man, with an injured throat judging from the quiet tenor of his voice "As the Journey instructs"

"Oh" You state, bashfully turning away as your cheeks redden "I see"

"Yes you do" Carys teases "We have already arrived at the destination of our pilgrimage, and already receive the gift of your wisdom, Lieren"

"Then, if you wish to aid me in my endeavors, would you be willing to assist me in locating Kanzeon's sisters?" You question without really thinking, the words leaving your thoughts as soon as they appeared "Or perhaps, excavating her true body from its prison of stone and soil"

"Only if the ancient herself accepts our assistance, she has a dim view of Aeldari, and I cannot blame her. She witnessed the lowest point of our species, and the sinful degeneration of excess they had fallen to."
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"We are the descendants of tyrants of the worst breed, she is wise to be wary of us" Carys answers, ashamed for the legacy of her people "And I do not wish to cause strife between you and she who has endured the long night"

"Admittance and reflection of past mistakes would certainly encourage her to make an exception" You answer kindly "But it was untoward of me to ask you all to undertake such grueling labor when you have only just arrived and met me, Perhaps more tea would entice you to forgive me of this folly"

"We are not offended, as you can tell at a glance. But Carys is right, it is not wise to risk drawing the ire of a being as old and potent as your bride" The hunter says warily as he holds his cup towards you to be filled "Though if she'd accept our assistance, we would give it happily, Though I strongly doubt all of us would be able to lend any worthwhile aid"

"Before we walked the Path of the Journey, most of our number walked the path of the warrior, though we have experience in the other, more civilian paths, most of the skills we've retained would be of little aid in unearthing Kanzeon's vessel" The young girl from early stated

"Perhaps her metal hull is similar to wraithbone?" The man with the injured throat suggests, his scalp bare of hair except for a long tail tied tightly at its top, shaven by choice rather than lost by age, like Shaved Head Wei "I followed the path of the shaping once, and I recognize a few of our number who once did the same"

You press your knuckles to your chin, the discussion turning your thoughts to Kanzeon. And if she would accept the Aeldari's presence nearby. You dreaded her reaction when she returned from her "Walk" in the wilds.

While the meeting between them didn't transpire as you imagined, it was still worrying. Kanzeon exulted in the respect and reverence given to her by the Journeymen Aeldari, who all but knelt before her in submission. You've seen a smile like that before, worn by Yin Lei when he brought wicked men to justice after keeping a grudge against them and their crimes for years. Though you suppose it was the only way their meeting could have gone even somewhat nicely, considering Kanzeon's feelings towards the Aeldari and her pride. Even if she made a few of them uncomfortable in requesting the armor and gear they wore for study and research. But, after being refused, Kanzeon treated the "repentant Eldar" as she referred to them like anyone else, but you couldn't help but notice the grin she wore while in the company and the way she'd blush when they spoke to her respectfully and with admiration.

She almost seemed to get a high from seeing Aeldari humble themselves before her

She even made efforts to befriend Carys, but became irritated when she refused her offer to replace her lost eyes. Until at least she explained her reasons for refusing, at which point she renewed her efforts in befriending her.
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>>5030729

It was clear her particular fondness of Carys was derived entirely from the fact of all of the present Aeldari, she held you in the most reverence. The rest respected you and your wisdom and saw in you a mentor and guiding light, but Carys held you as a personal idol and savior.

Though her reaction to being brought to Guozhi, who despite Kanzeon's suspicions she has also grown fond of, certainly helped to soften her heart.

Many of the members of the wanderers in the fog were at first weary of the Aeldari, innately sensing their greater psionic potential or in Meixiu and the younger disiciples cases' being frightened by their eyes and the ethereal air they gave off. But, when Grandfather Guozhi greeted them as friends, and Carys was able to finish the passage from the Journey he quoted at her, they quickly calmed to their presence.

A few even sought their guidance in their training and "bottlenecks" they have reached in their training.

And to Kanzeon's great amusement, one of their number was by a series of events caused by Xiaowen tiring of watching over and entertaining the living force of nature embodied in Meixiu, was made to be the young girls playmate. A task which they excelled at, amazing her with petty psykerist tricks and stories of her species past, though she could only communicate with her through wind whispering as

Unlike you and Kanzeon, learning a language as complex as the Aeldari's tongue, was an arduous task that could not be completed within the span of a few days.

What do you do now that the Aeldari are "settled", Lieren?

>Approach Kanzeon with the offer of their assistance in locating her sister/ unearthing her true body

>Take time to learn each of the Aeldari personally, by their name and character, and learn their reasons for following the Journey

>Use this rare opportunity to tutor the disciples of the wanderers in the fog sect, the Aeldari are after all at their heart a wise race and the boon of their teachings would be invaluable

>Try to convince them to give Kanzeon the technology she's interested in, promising to replace it

Sorry for the late update.
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>>5030730
Oh
forgot the

>Write in

Just pretend its there
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>>5030728
>"Oh" You state, bashfully turning away as your cheeks redden "I see"
hahaha


>>5030730
np


>Take time to learn each of the Aeldari personally, by their name and character, and learn their reasons for following the Journey
>Use this rare opportunity to tutor the disciples of the wanderers in the fog sect, the Aeldari are after all at their heart a wise race and the boon of their teachings would be invaluable
>Write in
Begin to prepare a plan for strike at the heart of Nitya shinya empire, one strike for cut down the head of this snake. If it would be possible to be able to engage and destroy the tyrant and his cadre of generals, elite champions and evil spirits the Vishnu armies would be left leaderless and highly impressed by the martial feat. This plan must be done to perfection, but how it can be accomplished ? Who should be with us ? An elite strike force of brothers and wanderers of the fog could be ideal, but there is still the problem of striking the foe at it s heart. Technology or perhaps a mien of teleportation could help us.
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>>5030730
>Approach Kanzeon with the offer of their assistance in locating her sister/ unearthing her true body

>Take time to learn each of the Aeldari personally, by their name and character, and learn their reasons for following the Journey

>Use this rare opportunity to tutor the disciples of the wanderers in the fog sect, the Aeldari are after all at their heart a wise race and the boon of their teachings would be invaluable

>Ask what cataclysm Carys saw in your future, and how to potentialy avoid. Fate may be the slave of fools, but divination is a useful tool nonetheless.
Ok, now I'm even more afraid with the coming battle with the Vishnu.
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>>5030730
>Tutor our students
>Learn each eldar personally
>Talk to Kanzeon
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>>5030730


>Approach Kanzeon with the offer of their assistance in locating her sister/ unearthing her true body
>Take time to learn each of the Aeldari personally, by their name and character, and learn their reasons for following the Journey
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>>5030730
>Take time to learn each of the Aeldari personally, by their name and character, and learn their reasons for following the Journey

>Use this rare opportunity to tutor the disciples of the wanderers in the fog sect, the Aeldari are after all at their heart a wise race and the boon of their teachings would be invaluable
Here's a write-in
>Ask them if we disproved their ideology infront of everyone would it not break them harder far than any violence we could offer? Violence for violence's sake and might makes right could easily be disproven, as could their delusions regarding honor, bravery, and sorcery. If Avalokiteśvara still lives she could even prove our evidence true.
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>>5030730
Also this
>Approach Kanzeon with the offer of their assistance in locating her sister/ unearthing her true body
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>>5030730
>>5030757

Supporting this
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>>5030730
>>Approach Kanzeon with the offer of their assistance in locating her sister/ unearthing her true body
>>Take time to learn each of the Aeldari personally, by their name and character, and learn their reasons for following the Journey
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>>5030730
>Take time to learn each of the Aeldari personally, by their name and character, and learn their reasons for following the Journey
>Use this rare opportunity to tutor the disciples of the wanderers in the fog sect, the Aeldari are after all at their heart a wise race and the boon of their teachings would be invaluable

>Approach Kanzeon with the offer of their assistance in locating her sister/ unearthing her true body
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>>5030738
Supporting
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>>5030758
meant to say I supported late addition too.
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>>5030730
>Approach Kanzeon with the offer of their assistance in locating her sister/ unearthing her true body
>Take time to learn each of the Aeldari personally, by their name and character, and learn their reasons for following the Journey
>Use this rare opportunity to tutor the disciples of the wanderers in the fog sect, the Aeldari are after all at their heart a wise race and the boon of their teachings would be invaluable
>Ask what cataclysm Carys saw in your future, and how to potentialy avoid. Fate may be the slave of fools, but divination is a useful tool nonetheless.
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>>5030730
>Approach Kanzeon with the offer of their assistance in locating her sister/ unearthing her true body
>Take time to learn each of the Aeldari personally, by their name and character, and learn their reasons for following the Journey
>Use this rare opportunity to tutor the disciples of the wanderers in the fog sect, the Aeldari are after all at their heart a wise race and the boon of their teachings would be invaluable
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>>5030730
>Approach Kanzeon with the offer of their assistance in locating her sister/ unearthing her true body

>Take time to learn each of the Aeldari personally, by their name and character, and learn their reasons for following the Journey

>Use this rare opportunity to tutor the disciples of the wanderers in the fog sect, the Aeldari are after all at their heart a wise race and the boon of their teachings would be invaluable
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>>5030730
>Take time to learn each of the Aeldari personally, by their name and character, and learn their reasons for following the Journey

>Use this rare opportunity to tutor the disciples of the wanderers in the fog sect, the Aeldari are after all at their heart a wise race and the boon of their teachings would be invaluable
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>>5031047
YEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>5030730
>Take time to learn each of the Aeldari personally, by their name and character, and learn their reasons for following the Journey
>Approach Kanzeon with the offer of their assistance in locating her sister/ unearthing her true body
>Use this rare opportunity to tutor the disciples of the wanderers in the fog sect, the Aeldari are after all at their heart a wise race and the boon of their teachings would be invaluable
If they help by using wraith bone Kanzeon will likely get most of what she wants just from the repair work coupled with anything they can make and comfortably share.
In regards to dealing with the khornate vishnu, I'm thinking we need to throw everything we have into finding, excavating, and repairing Kanzeon and her sisters, assuming the others are alive and uncorrupted they won't oppose building as much dark age weaponry and defenses as possible considering the circumstances as its the only real way to win the upcoming war.
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>>5031126
>as much dark age weaponry and defenses as possible
Lion's primarch novel illustrated the caliber of such weapons rather well. One of the PoV characters arms himself with a weapon that erases its target from existence. After he kills something with it he can barely remember what it was he was shooting at.
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>>5031126
Conventional warfare is unwise against someone that worships the god of slaughter is a bit foolish though I think I've noticed a trend among the apostles of the four gods. Each of the champions so far have shown a crippling flaw in their personality or situation.
Yan emperor was a selfish bloated maggot that brought his empire to near ruin and and was only a pawn in the end.
Nityah Sinha, while a clever sorceror, put too much faith in fate, power, and schemes that left him wholly unprepared for Lieren.
Bask was such a house of cards that one missionary caused a civil war.
Kamal Kanan likely has his own weakness we could exploit but it's unlikely to one of combat prowess.
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Can you imagine how weird it would be if the emperor shows up to checks how we're doing and we're already halfway done with an eldar led webway project?

Or even worse. We finish it and use it to visit him and his incomplete one? So much confusion.

Oh if we managed to have several craft worlds under our banner because of Isha-mama?
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>>5031151
>Can you imagine how weird it would be if the emperor shows up to checks how we're doing and we're already halfway done with an eldar led webway project?
"Malcador, what the FUCK did we put in pod 2? And why didn't we put it in all the others?"
>Oh if we managed to have several craft worlds under our banner because of Isha-mama?
Under is a stretch, I think. Alongside is probably more likely. Carys' sect might grow, but the majority of Eldar will probably want to remain independent. Cooperative, perhaps even friendly, but separate.
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>>5031159
Honestly I could see some of them using the proto-reincarnation system Lieren is creating with the Journey to become humans and escape Slaanesh.
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>>5031151
I'm pretty sure the Emperor was on good terms with Eldrad before the fuckhead harlequins thought that the best way to deliver a mesage was to kill everyone in their path while infiltrating the imperial palace unannounced.
So it might not be that much of a shock for him if we manage to get one or two craftworld allies.
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>>5031162
>become humans
Oh god, they'd hate that. I'm not even sure if that'd let them escape, their souls would remain the same. Any changes to the destination of them after death (Infinity Circuits, Slaaneshi, Cegorach) are gonna be real late-game in this quest I think. Something like the Awakening of Ynnead or similar.
>>5031163
They respected each other, but I'm not sure if they ever met face-to-face. They coordinated Vulkan's return to Terra iirc, so they might've skyped through the warp like us and Magnus.
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>>5030730
>>Approach Kanzeon with the offer of their assistance in locating her sister/ unearthing her true body
>>Take time to learn each of the Aeldari personally, by their name and character, and learn their reasons for following the Journey
>>Use this rare opportunity to tutor the disciples of the wanderers in the fog sect, the Aeldari are after all at their heart a wise race and the boon of their teachings would be invaluable
>>Ask what cataclysm Carys saw in your future, and how to potentialy avoid. Fate may be the slave of fools, but divination is a useful tool nonetheless.
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>>5031146
From what we have gathered, Nityah Sinha's most likely weakness is his over reliance on Avalokiteśvara.
I highly doubt he has managed to build another cloning facility, which would mean he gets all his clones from Avalokiteśvara. Likewise, considering he's been busy skinning everything that moves, I doubt he has had the time to build any of the advanced industry necessary to make all the tech he has. Which means he gets it all from, again, Avalokiteśvara.
Convincing her to stop helping him, or destroying/disabling her, would most likely stop him getting anymore clones and advanced tech. Won't help us get rid what he already has, but it would mean we could bleed him dry of his good shit and eventually come out on top.
If nothing else, direct confrontation with Khornates is rarely a good idea, so sneaking in through the back gate and sabotaging his shit would probably go well. Maybe steal some aircrafts while we are at it.
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>>5031378
At that point why not create machine focused psyker powers to counter them?
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That way lies Daemons.
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>>5032097
Bullshit.
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>>5032097
Up yours retard.
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Tell that to 40k Mars Heretek.
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>>5032119
Lieren the ultraheretek sure will.
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Calling the vote now. Sorry for the long wait, Been sick as a dog.

Take time to learn each of the Aeldari personally, by their name and character, and learn their reasons for following the Journey:15

Use this rare opportunity to tutor the disciples of the wanderers in the fog sect, the Aeldari are after all at their heart a wise race and the boon of their teachings would be invaluable:13

Begin to prepare a plan for strike at the heart of Nitya Sinha empire:1

Approach Kanzeon with the offer of their assistance in locating her sister/ unearthing her true body:13

Ask what cataclysm Carys saw in your future, and how to potentialy avoid. Fate may be the slave of fools, but divination is a useful tool nonetheless.:4

Ask them if we disproved their ideology infront of everyone would it not break them harder far than any violence we could offer? Violence for violence's sake and might makes right could easily be disproven, as could their delusions regarding honor, bravery, and sorcery. If Avalokiteśvara still lives she could even prove our evidence true: 2

Total votes: 15

So Lieren will take the time to learn the Aeldari personally, by their name and characters, and the reason for them choosing to practice the Journey, before requesting their aid in tutoring the disciples of the wanders in the fog, by lending their knowledge and wisdom to their practices.

And then he'll approach Kanzeon, to relay the Aeldari's offer of assistance in finding her sisters/ unearthing her true body

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Sorry again for the wait. Didn't die, though I did feel like death.
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>>5032427
> Felt like Death.
Looks like we got another Lich. Prep your butts lads, it's gonna get spoopy.
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>>5032456
Get him a phylactery, liches love phylacteries.
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>>5032464
Stuff his soul in a whiskey bottle so he can spend eternity hammered.
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>>5032487
Put into a computer, so he can become the machine spirit.
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The calm that has reigned since the tyrant Kamal Kanan and his underlings have been cast from their seats directly into their graves, and the New Shuni Kingdom willingly vassalized itself to Long-Jia, proves to be a fertile bed for more casual interaction between yourself, your guests and your students of both The mundane world and that of Cultivation. The fact that you have, as always, managed to efficiently complete all of the tasks and labors asked of you by Jinhai and the lesser nobility of the two lands, also lends you a little more time of reprieve to commit to these more personal efforts.

You begin, by getting to know each of the Aeldari who follow Carys and your teachings by name and the quality of their character. While the exercise and the interactions that form it are as mundane as any conversation during one's work or at a thriving market, it helps bridge the gap in your mind that has been constructed between Aeldari and Humanity since your first encounter with the more degenerative example of this old and venerable race. In part by seeing them separate from what little knowledge you possess of the species and its vastly separated cultures, and viewing them in "Isolation" as individuals and witnessing how unique and varied they are from each other by nature and character. It brings to mind your first clumsy conversations with other men, when you first emerged from the wilds to save Nothing from famine and winter. A spark of empathy fueled and allowed to grow into the flames of compassion.

Each of the Astral travelers have stories to tell, like soft spoke and meek youngster Caron, who before finding renewed purpose beneath Carys' wings had languished in the "Path of Grief" and was confronted by the grim reality of death and the torturous fate that awaited her kinsmen should they break from the rigid bonds of their society. According to herself and her fellows, her mental state had greatly improved once she no longer ruminated on the sorrow that accompanied death but instead learned to appreciate the joys of life and the naturality of death itself. Or the Scarred, gloomy mannered Huntsman Folant, who you have since learned was accustomed to being an outcast as he had left behind the structured society of his craftworld to seek adventure and glory amongst the stars, surviving the dangerous undertaking long enough to gain some renown even amongst those whom he left before.

He, was what was known as a Ranger and proved invaluable in helping you come to understand your alien philosophical brothers. A number of them were once or still considered themselves to be Aspect warriors. Aeldari who walked the path of the warrior in its many forms, and thus somewhat awkwardly, you realize the cause for their reluctance to allow Kanzeon to "Sample" their travel worn armor, weaponry or equipment as well as their shyness of discussing their old professions in the presence of their fellows.
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>>5032501

For, though they had chosen to step away from their aspect shrines to walk the endless road of the journey, all but two of them had chosen to, against the laws and code of their society retain the temporary ownership of their gear as they joined Carys in her pilgrimage. Surely such a crime must be severe, with how tightly they keep their lips locked concerning it and the air of shame that surrounds them whenever attention is drawn to their stolen war gear.

And, though you initially held a dim view for their selfish actions you understood how they were necessary and when they had become accustomed enough to your presence, you learned their "thievery" was in fact sanctioned by this mysterious "Eldrad Ulthran" Amaethon had mentioned before.

Though guilt still wracked the minds of these handful of former yet current Aspect Warriors, they were somewhat consoled by the "fact" that if they were permitted to take their armor by this Eldrad, then they must have a purpose to still wield it or would eventually return to their home to be welcomed in open arms. You kept silent, knowing how divination inspired hope and knowing of its tenuous veracity despite your own stubbornly held views concerning the very idea of destiny. In fact, divination was how you struck an accord with those who had once walked the path of the seer along side Carys, they had a great interest in the traditional Long Jian folk method of divination and offered to compare minor prophecies out of a lingering cultural pride.

Which, in turn, helped them ease the lingering suspicion still held within the Wanderers in the Fog. A feeling most isolated within the throngs of Outer disciples, though a few of the more recently promoted inner disciples had voiced their concerns. Like Xueqin The Iron arm, who had flourished in the Sect after being rescued from his solitude in the mountainous Bask border.

And, you suspect, at least one of their number was nudged closer towards you opinion of fate after reading young Meixiu's fate. After all, the man confided that by all futures he could see, she was never supposed to have been found by Guozhi, let alone raised upon love and care. Which was, in a grim way, comforting. And proved your fears that if she had not been found, she would have grown to menace the countryside. Indeed, after comparing visions with his fellows, it was found that one of her prior "Destinies" was to usurp an ascendant Kamal Kanan at the moment of his triumph over the Yan. Her Sheer brute psionic force aided by hedge sorcery managing to surmount his "divine" patronage and centuries of experience, and perhaps the late tyrants own gluttonous hunger for the souls of young women.

A terrifying warning of the young girl's yet hidden potential, if you had not already realized the sheer depth of her innate power from the moment you first met her eyes when Guozhi introduced her still bedraggled from her past and their travels together.
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>>5032502

But, through these interactions you learned much of the society and culture of the craftworlds, the system of their paths, their connection to Se Nie and the reason for their stifling of their emotions.

By the end of two weeks, you were close with all members of Carys' Cadre and knew them by their names and their hearts. All thirty nine of them, including Carys herself.

And so did your Sect, for while those who had once followed the path of the seer as warlocks or farseers like Carys compromise only a forth of the total pilgrims, they were all to willingly to aid the disciples from the lowest ranked of the outers to the highest positions within the sect. It is a rare opportunity that you cannot allow to slip through your students' fingers. For, the Aeldari are at their core a wise and knowledgeable people and while they jealously guard their secrets and ways from outsiders the Journey teaches otherwise, and thus these adherents were all to willing to share their knowledge with their juniors of the psykerist path.

While their methods, practices and traditions were strange and foreign, and at times near inimical to the way of cultivation followed by your sect, a handful of your disciples proved particularly adept at the Aeldari form of pyskerism and showed a far greater natural talent in the field than they had in the training and techniques inherited by the Wardens of Mysteries or Devised by you, Guozhi, Kuan im, Cai or the Twin exorcists Bohai and Peizhi. These few were thus, uniquely blessed to learn the deeper mysteries of the Paths of the Seer, Shaping, and the Dreamer. Though this inborn talent inspired jealousy amongst their peers, all shared equally of the Aeldari's knowledge and expertise even if they were unable to learn their psykerist arts due to a lack of compatibility.

And those who still felt inferior and suffered from dampened spirits because of their seeming lesser talent, were quickly returned to good spirits by your encouraging words and reminders that no man can be naturally gifted in all arts or labors and that a cultivator must cultivate all aspects of themselves rather than their Qi and Spirit alone.

Indeed, these who were unable to learn from the Aeldari psykers, were among the first in the sect to learn their spoken tongue. In part because of their reinvigorated drive to better themselves despite their small handicaps. And they didn't rely on Wind Whispering to aid in their study. Much to the surprise of their tutors, who explained most humans had trouble learning anything besides a basic, and childish grasp of their language. Which makes sense to you, most of the Wanderers in the Fog are ethnically and culturally Long-Jian and your shared language is often considered overtly poetic, elegant and intricate by the other cultures of Shangrala. Which means the Aeldari tongue, similarly steeped in metaphor, idiom and archaic phrasing as Long-Jianese itself,
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>>5032503

is much less difficult for Men of Long-Jia to mentally grasp and comprehend, at least with the aid of a talented mentor. In fact, one of the tutors admits to you in private, that she had more difficulty in learning the Long-Jian tongue herself than her students had in becoming verbose speakers in her own!

And as both sides of these lessons must learn of the other's culture to understand their language, the bonds and understanding between Wanderer and Aeldari have only strengthened. Indeed, a few of the more ambitious Inner disciples have approached you with theories of mingling "traditional" cultivation methods with the practices of the craftworlders, while a few of the more curious among the sect have pondered out loud how the Aeldari's history and fate could have been different if they had only followed the Journey to begin with.

Currently, it seems that the more experienced and innately talented of your sect are caught in a debate with the Aeldari over the Wuxing and Feng Shui and how they must endeavor to remodel their homes to improve the flow of Qi and the elements throughout them and thus better their health, fortunes and appease the ghost of their ancestors, and the Aeldari struggling to explain to these zealous interior designers that while it would be possible to change the arrangement of their personal quarters rebuilding the entirety of the craftworld is near impossible, considering the sheer scale of their artificial world. Or they were, judging from the presence of Cai and the twin exorcists, the conversation must have turned to the infinity circuits and nature of the soulstones.

You can only hope that the three core disciples have learned enough to not offend your guests by offering to banish their earth bound spirits of their kin, or ask for a soulstone of their own in the case of Cai.

Turning away from the temple of your Sect, your Cloud Walk to one of the peaks overlooking Chendao academy, where Kanzeon has hiked up to to watch the sunsent.

"Beloved" She cheers as you approach "I was wondering when you would join me, to enjoy this natural spectacle"

You smile, and sit beside her

"I had little reason to, after all The beauty of the rising sun is incomparable to your radiance" You muse, receiving a playful punch to the shoulder by the blushing Kanzeon

"Do you think I'm upset that you've been spending time with your guests?" She chuckles, smilingly blithely as she crawled closer to you "I have no grudge against sensible eldar, in truth I admire them for their rarity. Like black jade"

"Jinhai could attest to the rarity of black jade" You jest, earning an honest laugh from Kanzeon

"Those two lovebirds are also a rarity, I've seen many generations from their birth to their graves, and in all of my records only a few couples among them have found love as honest as theirs" Kanzeon says, pouting as she glanced away, adding with a whisper "Or ours"
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You feel your cheeks warm and redden, but before you can reply

"And I know, besides flirting, you've come here to tell me the eldar have offered to assist me in numerous fashions, and as I stated a few moments ago" Kanzeon says, the girlish joy she spoke with still tinging her voice "I have no grudge against sensible Eldar, if they want to help, and you trust them I see no reason to refuse their assistance"

"Ah" You reply, nodding your head

"Nor yours in carrying my body down from this elevation, as this was in part an experiment to learn what muscle fatigue feels like and I do not believe my legs will be able to support my weight in their current condition" She admits, cheeks redder than the sun on the horizon

You stifle a chuckle, and gingerly run your fingers through her flowing and wild locks of hair.

What Task do you ask the Aeldari to assist in, Lieren?

>Unearthing Kanzeon's true body, finally freeing her from her long imprisonment

>Finding the location of Kanzeon's sister Al-Uzza in the Shuni Provinces

>Tracking down the resting place of Kanzeon's sister Mari in the newly liberated Bask Republic

>As the Vishnu have not yet officially declared war against Long-Jia, it would be prudent to search for Kanzeon's sister Avalokiteśvara before the chaos of war consumes the region

>Ask them to help you find Kuan Im, and specify you mean Kanzeon's sister and not the blind spiritualist.

>Write in
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>>5032505
>>As the Vishnu have not yet officially declared war against Long-Jia, it would be prudent to search for Kanzeon's sister Avalokiteśvara before the chaos of war consumes the region
Bask sister's name is Mari, what do I win?
Also, are those all her sisters? One one hand, I assume that she'd have mentioned them all to us, but on the other, we know there are a total of 8 entities influencing Shangrala. I can't see a break in the one ship per civilization, one civilization per god pattern occurring.
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>>5032505
>Finding the location of Kanzeon's sister Al-Uzza in the Shuni Provinces

>Tracking down the resting place of Kanzeon's sister Mari in the newly liberated Bask Republic

>As the Vishnu have not yet officially declared war against Long-Jia, it would be prudent to search for Kanzeon's sister Avalokiteśvara before the chaos of war consumes the region

>Ask them to help you find Kuan Im, and specify you mean Kanzeon's sister and not the blind spiritualist.

>just tell them knowing the locations and dangers would be good enough we can handled the rest
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>>5032505
>As the Vishnu have not yet officially declared war against Long-Jia, it would be prudent to search for Kanzeon's sister Avalokiteśvara before the chaos of war consumes the region
I would love to look for all of them, but this one is especially important, since it is the Vishu source of all their cool toys.
And, I mean, what would we even do if we found the others? We would not be able to dig them out before shit hit the fan, and I doubt they could give us much more tech than Kanzeon can.

Though, maybe it would be better to dig out Kanzeon? Pretty sure she would make their air fleet her bitch singlehandedly.
How close are we to digging her out anyway?
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>>5032535
My desire is to just know their locations and conditions.
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>>5032505
>Unearthing Kanzeon's true body, finally freeing her from her long imprisonment
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>>5032505
>>Finding the location of Kanzeon's sister Al-Uzza in the Shuni Provinces
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>>5032505
>As the Vishnu have not yet officially declared war against Long-Jia, it would be prudent to search for Kanzeon's sister Avalokiteśvara before the chaos of war consumes the region
>Unearthing Kanzeon's true body, finally freeing her from her long imprisonment
The Vishnu depend on her technology, if we can stop the flow, they won't be able to keep fighting as a meatgrinder.
And if we do free Kanzeon at the same time, than we get the air superiority over their planes as well.
We can find the rest of the sisters later.
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>>5032505
> Finding the location of Kanzeon's sister Al-Uzza in the Shuni Provinces
I have the sad, sneaking suspicion that she's dead, and the defilement of her remains was what the Shuni nation was based on.

> Tracking down the resting place of Kanzeon's sister Mari in the newly liberated Bask Republic
Given that the Bask seemed a minor power, I think Mari might still be dormant. Safe from corruption, but that might also mean she's 'dead'.

> Ask them to help you find Kuan Im, and specify you mean Kanzeon's sister and not the blind spiritualist.
Finding Kuan Im might be a really difficult task; who's to say she's not submerged several hundred meters at the bottom of the sea?

All in all, I am starting to think Kanzeon might be safer hidden under the Bone-Devouring Forest than revealed to whatever auspex devices Sinha possesses.
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>>5032505
>As the Vishnu have not yet officially declared war against Long-Jia, it would be prudent to search for Kanzeon's sister Avalokiteśvara before the chaos of war consumes the region
Deny them they technology.
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>>5032505
>As the Vishnu have not yet officially declared war against Long-Jia, it would be prudent to search for Kanzeon's sister Avalokiteśvara before the chaos of war consumes the region

We should bring our brother's of the panther as well in the case conflicts occur
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>>5032573
I'll support.

But also
>Look for the Shuni sister
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>>5032505
>>As the Vishnu have not yet officially declared war against Long-Jia, it would be prudent to search for Kanzeon's sister Avalokiteśvara before the chaos of war consumes the region
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>>5032505
>Write in
>fortify the border, with defense in depth tactics

>Finding the location of Kanzeon's sister Al-Uzza in the Shuni Provinces

>Tracking down the resting place of Kanzeon's sister Mari in the newly liberated Bask Republic

>As the Vishnu have not yet officially declared war against Long-Jia, it would be prudent to search for Kanzeon's sister Avalokiteśvara before the chaos of war consumes the region
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>>5032505
>Finding the location of Kanzeon's sister Al-Uzza in the Shuni Provinces
>Tracking down the resting place of Kanzeon's sister Mari in the newly liberated Bask Republic
>Ask them to help you find Kuan Im, and specify you mean Kanzeon's sister and not the blind spiritualist.
The vishnu could attack any of the three regions first, I would not be surprised if they searched for the other crashed ships intentionally.
If any sister's are dead they can be safely cannibalized, if corrupted Lieren can kill them and determine what can be salvaged, and if they are fine we just need to excavate and feed them enough to get autonomous resource extraction going so they can at least serve as a regional fortress if not build up a army.
I'm assuming Avalokiteśvara is the chaos corrupted one and is most likely going to need a full army to deal with in any significant way, when the war starts finding her will be easy as she will either be outright exposed or will be the centralized point for the entirety of the enemy military.
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>>5032624
>if corrupted
It'll be a good opportunity to learn how to exorcize Chaos taint from a soul.
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>>5032505
>>Unearthing Kanzeon's true body, finally freeing her from her long imprisonment
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>>5032564
Support
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>>5032505

>Unearthing Kanzeon's true body, finally freeing her from her long imprisonment

>Finding the location of Kanzeon's sister Al-Uzza in the Shuni Provinces

>Tracking down the resting place of Kanzeon's sister Mari in the newly liberated Bask Republic

>Write in
We tell her the options and let her choose! Though I lean towards the former burgle lands cos we can get to know the people at the same time
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A good time to remember if we multivote it weakens the actions so let's try to focus one down at a time
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>>5032736
Ah yes I forgot
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>>5032598
Changing to

>Finding the location of Kanzeon's sister Al-Uzza in the Shuni Provinces

>Tracking down the resting place of Kanzeon's sister Mari in the newly liberated Bask Republic

>As the Vishnu have not yet officially declared war against Long-Jia, it would be prudent to search for Kanzeon's sister Avalokiteśvara before the chaos of war consumes the region
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>>5032744
>>5032598
>>5032505
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>>5032505

>As the Vishnu have not yet officially declared war against Long-Jia, it would be prudent to search for Kanzeon's sister Avalokiteśvara before the chaos of war consumes the region

>Tracking down the resting place of Kanzeon's sister Mari in the newly liberated Bask Republic


>Unearthing Kanzeon's true body, finally freeing her from her long imprisonment
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>>5032736
It also takes more time to do.
I hope we don't end up with a Chen situation again by sending multiple small teams.
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>>5032752
That's why we are heading towards at the moment. The utter max we should do is two and even that I'm unsure on. Greed and lack of focus is going to lose us people
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>>5032505
>As the Vishnu have not yet officially declared war against Long-Jia, it would be prudent to search for Kanzeon's sister Avalokiteśvara before the chaos of war consumes the region
>Unearthing Kanzeon's true body, finally freeing her from her long imprisonment
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Besides there is something poetic and cyclical about Eldar helpping us rescue a mother vessel from Nurgle lands :')
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>>5032752
>>5032762
It shouldn't take long to learn their locations.
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>>5032864
Think how deep our wife's vessel was we'd have never known without directly going down there. We need to focus these tasks down rather than a whole bunch of half measures
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>>5032762
I agree.

We should be freeing Kanzeon, because then we have a DAOT colony ship to help. and Search for the Shunni ship, because we know where to look there.
On the destroyed capital of Kamal Kanan, where we got told her body is resting/hiding/dead.

These two cost the least amount of time and get us the most benefits.
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>>5032926
So consider these my votes.
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Votes so far
>Unearthing Kanzeon's true body, finally freeing her from her long imprisonment
8
>Finding the location of Kanzeon's sister Al-Uzza in the Shuni Provinces
8
>Tracking down the resting place of Kanzeon's sister Mari in the newly liberated Bask Republic
6
>As the Vishnu have not yet officially declared war against Long-Jia, it would be prudent to search for Kanzeon's sister Avalokiteśvara before the chaos of war consumes the region
12
>Ask them to help you find Kuan Im, and specify you mean Kanzeon's sister and not the blind spiritualist.
2
>just tell them knowing the locations and dangers would be good enough we can handled the rest
1
>fortify the border, with defense in depth tactics
0
>We tell her the options and let her choose!
1
Total Votes
18
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>>5032908
I think you misunderstand. Eldar are able to look into the future to locate stuff. I'm not asking for a half measure just their location/how to find them.
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>>5032505
>As the Vishnu have not yet officially declared war against Long-Jia, it would be prudent to search for Kanzeon's sister Avalokiteśvara before the chaos of war consumes the region
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>>5032949
Surprised at the amount of votes asking the eldar for help digging Kanzeon out of the ground and repairing her, they outright said only about 4 of 40 of them used to be bone singers capable of helping with that so it seems to be splitting focus to only our detriment.
Our eldar friends are essentially master scouts and spies and we should use them as such.
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>>5033090
they also have a spaceship which will probably help (they may also help us with the Warpstone).
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>>5032735

+1
Think that's a good idea asking her, she'll probably know what is more urgent to do
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>>5033098
No it wouldn't.
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>>5033098
To be more clear they literally have nothing to help with the escavation so it will likely take more time than any of the other options on the list and possibly any combination of the other options. Some people seem to be approaching the vote that all the options take the same amount of time when it's obviously not true and it's stupid to assume that.
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>>5033302
>>5033090
Than we put the 4, plus the amateur bonesingers on our sect to do it while the other 36 do the scouting.
Malal doesn't put trap options, if if he wrote it as a option, than it's possible. It may take some time but it will be done.
However, what we do know that results in some kind of failure is trying to do all the options at once. So maybe it will mean that all of them will take a long yime and the eldar won't be able to help against the Vishnu, or we will get sneak attacked while bot paying attention, or some other thing like that.
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>>5033321
Anyway, we don't need to worry about either problem too much since unless the votes have a sudden change, we are going to only go after Avalokiteśvara.
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>>5033321
>Malal doesn't put trap options
I never said it was a trap option especially with how Malal said as much in the update that they can't do much to help.
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>>5033354
I don't know, saying that one of the options would do nothing and just waste our time seems like it would mean it's a trap for me.
Maybe we just have different definitions for the term.
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>>5032505
>>Unearthing Kanzeon's true body, finally freeing her from her long imprisonment
>>As the Vishnu have not yet officially declared war against Long-Jia, it would be prudent to search for Kanzeon's sister Avalokiteśvara before the chaos of war consumes the region
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>>5033358
Is it really a trap if he tells you they are better at finding stuff than digging shit out of the ground?
That's like complaining about a shitty result when you decided to engage in open warfare against Khornate fellowers despite being warned that they are. You have nobody to blame but yourself.
Also I doubt Kanzeon will be able to do much of anything during the next war especially if people play it smart.
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>>5033414
>open warfare against Khornate fellowers despite being warned that they are
Open warfare with Khornates is fine. It's melee specifically you'd rather avoid. Pert and the the IVth took daemon!Angron and the World Eaters to lunch with fighting retreats that never let them get into chainaxe range.
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>>5033414
That's fair, but I think the inability of the help is being way overblown, since Malal has said plenty of times he won't fuck us over out of nowhere, and the few times a default option would a big consequence, he put the warning in the vote itself, so I trust him.
Also I just reread the last two update, it says that the psykers are a forth, not four, I think that there is only one or two rangers and the rest are aspect warriors or civilian paths.
>especially if people play it smart.
I give two to three updates after the war start to votes saying to instakill the giant in a duel while bragging to turn up. Whether they win, or lose and start complaying that Lieren is a dishonorable coward is a 50/50 chance.
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>>5033461
We can only really object to half of that tag.

But honour doesn't feed kids or bring prosperity.
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>>5033529
But that doesn't mean we should throw it away like it's nothing. Sun Tzu knew that honor was valuable and hard to replace when lost, but he wrote that you shouldn't take a loss because of it. That's how Lieren should act, not like some reddit-tier midwit who thinks he could rule the world if he went back to feudal times because he'd just lie to people. Something like the Treachery of the Turtles is good character development, but lets make sure it actually made Lieren grow as a person. That ordeal was Malal telling us "You can take shortcuts, but the bigger they are the bigger the fallout." The Be'Lakor fight was him telling us "Your name is Lieren of Nothing, not Coldsteel the Hedgehog." Lessons that we'd do well to remember in the wars to come.
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Can we all talk about how the journey combined with witnessing Lieren's enlightenment seems to have jarred Carys out of the farseer madness mindset?
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Also about the fact that Lieren is capable of training regular humans up to the level of eldar aspect warriors?
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>>5033802
>Coldsteel the Hedgehog
I googled it. I lol'd.
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Sorry for the wait, think I've fixed whatever was wrong with me. Anyways, calling the vote now.

As the Vishnu have not yet officially declared war against Long-Jia, it would be prudent to search for Kanzeon's sister Avalokiteśvara before the chaos of war consumes the region:14

Unearthing Kanzeon's true body, finally freeing her from her long imprisonment: 9

Finding the location of Kanzeon's sister Al-Uzza in the Shuni Provinces:7

Tracking down the resting place of Kanzeon's sister Mari in the newly liberated Bask Republic: 7

Ask them to help you find Kuan Im, and specify you mean Kanzeon's sister and not the blind spiritualist.:3

just tell them knowing the locations and dangers would be good enough we can handled the rest:1

fortify the border, with defense in depth tactics: 0

Let Kanzeon choose: 2

Total votes:21
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So exploiting the current tremulous peace between Long-Jia and the growing empire of Nitya Sinha, You will travel into those bloodsoaked lands to search for the mother of the Vishnu race, Kanzeon's sister Avalokiteśvara

Writing now

Sorry for slipping from my usual rhythm the last couple of days

>>5032510
A non existence purity seal
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With Kanzeon's permission, the only obstacle remaining is the decision that rests heavily upon your shoulders, like a great burden of yet unwrought iron. While the choice is a difficult one to make, with a mind as keenly and natural efficient, you are able to weigh the variables and potentialities of risk and time and find the answer to the question burning itself to your brow so fiercely you have half a mind to believe you'll see a second brand upon it the next time you meet your reflection. And the main deciding factor of this crucial choice is simple yet would lead you to many unavoidable hurdles were it to be ignored. Time is its name, and it lead the internal debate within yourself as you methodically compared each road before you to determine which would be the most beneficial to enlist the Aeldari's offered aid.

And the conclusion you came to not long after you began to carefully plan and consider your next move, was that you had to take a rather risky path forward. One potentially fraught with peril and mortal danger, to accomplish a task that would otherwise be incompletable for the foreseeable future. War is soon to come to the Vishnu Kingdoms, Nitya Sinha has consolidated his power, seemingly encouraged by Kamal Kanan's demise rather than becoming cowed by it. Presently, he has not declared war or even the simplest of violent intent towards Long-Jia and her people. But such peace will not endure for long. The King of Kings or the Butcher of kings, whatever he chooses to call himself now, has returned the Vishnu to their traditional way of life. One even more bloody minded and murderously cruel than that once espoused by the wild Vishnu tribes let alone the gentler modern breed of Vishnu, who had turned to wage their wars for wealth and influence rather than glory and thrill.

As Such it is all but inevitable that Nitya Sinha, the other giant of Shangrala, will turn his ambitions and lust for battle and killing to Long-Jia's borders once he has settled into his new station as the sole surviving Vishnu King. You know what to expect from the Vishnu, either by accounts of previous wars given from their veterans or surviving records and from Kanzeon's own vast wealth of knowledge pertaining to the technology Nitya Sinha has unearthed and fielded against the "New codes of conduct" of the Vishnu.

It will begin, with what is termed as an "Announcing Assault" by Scholars of their culture, a testing strike intended to draw a retaliatory or defensive action from their opponents. If it goes uncontested, they will simply continue marching and raiding. The King of Kings has shown a fondness of this tactical application of brute force, performing the almost ceremonial first attack before trampling over his rivals with his near limitless forces and insurmountable technological advantage. Thus, the first strike will serve as the herald of open warfare. No messages, heralds or announcements will be sent.
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>>5034077

The Vishnu will simply take up arms, and march for the border, ferociously assaulting it before retreating to gather their true army. So long as the Xue border remains unassailed, peace shall endure.

But how long that shall be, is utterly unpredictable. And when the unavoidable conflict does begin, there will be no chance for you to search the Vishnu Lands for Kanzeon's lost sister who rests beneath them, which could potentially doom Avalokiteśvara to a horrid fate at the hands of Nitya Sinha or the corruption he embodies. Al-Uzza's resting place is known to you, and no one but ghosts yet inhabits the world above her. "Mari" sleeps within the cold lands of the Bask, which from all appearances have dealt with the taint that had afflicted their society and is thus relatively safe. Kuan Im must lie in the northern reaches of Long-Jia, and is perhaps the safest of the four sisters within your reach.

The rest of Kanzeon's siblings, remain lost beyond the edges of the known world. Stories and fables speak of lands beyond The Kingdoms of the Vishnu, Bask and Shuni, and until the Vishnu are subdued it is impossible to travel into these mysterious lands to search for signs of your lover's other siblings, living or dead.

While it is far more dangerous and risky, the only wise choice to make is to march to the bloody fields of the Vishnu Kingdom to search for the sister who is not protected or guarded against the dangers of this world or that of the spirits.

It is a simple task, gaining permission to travel to the lands beneath Nitya Sinha's heel. Jinhai trusts your judgement as only a brother could, and the other officials, bureaucrats and ministers know they would only make fools of themselves and risk losing face and respect in the courts if they opposed a heroic figure such as yourself openly or otherwise trust your wisdom completely. The same is true for the nobility, the armies general and the various other powerful figures scattered through society from spiritualists to local governors to the schools of scholars and ascetic warriors.

Aiza Younis, Queen of the Shuni Provinces voices her confidence alongside Yin Lei when a few brave men raise their voices in opposition. And thus, in short order, your expedition to "Seek the possibility of establish trade routes, and update outdated maps" gains the approval of all of the important and leading figures of the kingdom.

Excusing the presence of your "Strange guests" as distant friends from a kingdom beyond Shangrala, and refusing any assistance that could rouse Nitya Sinha into declaring war prematurely, including the entirety of the brothers of the panthers, Aruna and Rudra's offer to guard you upon the roads of their motherland alongside their warriors; mostly made out of boredom of the current state of affairs of the world, and even a quarter of the ever expanding imperial army to act as a deterrent against assassination or attack.
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You even have to refuse Shirong' insistent offers of a "Flock" of his aircraft retrofitted into machines of war to shadow your Journey into the lands of the Long-Jian's people generational rivals.

Accompanied only by Kanzeon, and the Aeldari who would be able to aid your search for Avalokiteśvara. You arrive at the Lunatic's wall and are greeted by the Old Fox himself! Yan Zihao! Who has exiled himself from his family's greatly diminished holdings to "Hopefully die for a virtuous cause, after a lifetime of serving wicked masters". By his side, is one of the few loyal retainers left to the greatly lessened "Graced Yin" family, serving in place of his young lord, the eldest son of the late Yin Huizong

And Aruna and Rudra, who have realize what you have and chose to wait for conflict to spark at the border rather than seek out the bloodshed their warrior spirits crave. And through them, you learn that Manu has volunteered to serve alongside the scouting forces requisitioned from the brothers of the panthers ranks, and that your Brother Feng's marriage to Akanksha has proven fruitful already! A surprise that nearly sends you to your knees like the assault of four of the lords of discord had!. You also Learn, from your conversation with these noble warrior kings, that Kamakshi has joined the pursuit of poor Liang and Jiang.

A hunt you expect her to find more success than others, considering her naturalization and efforts to appear as a "Proper Long-Jian Lady".

You spend the final days of preparation for your Journey in the company of these three great men, sharing stories and reminiscing on the past as you share your drinks and meals together, before you are ready to step into the Panther's den and witness the terrible reign of Nitya Sinha first hand.

No questions are raised pertaining to the strange hooded and armored strangers accompanying you. Indeed, it would see, as the Aeldari style of armor has been adapted by the elites of the imperial army, those garrisoned at the wall at Xue's border think them to be another brotherhood of warriors or monks personally trained by your hand. Though, you do notice one or two soliders who suspect their true origins, for they were the survivors of the raids performed by the degenerate Aeldari raiders. You had not expected any of those unfortunate souls to reenlist, but here they stand.

Traveling beyond the border of rusted weapons, you enter into the dust and mists of the Vishnu Kingdom and.

Do no find the suspicions or aggression you were expecting. Indeed, the first fort you encounter, set before the raised city of the last king to fall, meets you cordially upon that sands. Though you can see the bloodlust that has blackened both his heart and soul, and those of his collared and enslaved warriors. He listens to your lies, the false duty entrusted to you with an unsettlingly serene manner, his face and body hidden by heavy steel armor dyed black with soot and ash, menacing with spikes and hooks.
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>>5034080

He nods along, eyes flashing with a trained wariness between you, Kanzeon and the Aeldari at your backs. When the wind changes its course, a stench of copper, freshly spilled blood wafts in from the walls at the general's back. His banner, you realize now that it is close enough to study, you realize is not naturally dyed the color of rust, but rather has been washed with spilt blood.

"If you come with peaceful intent, we have no reason to harry you, Giant" The envoy laughs "Though, from the stories I've heard surrounding you, you shall not remain tame for long. But, as long as you suppress the natural rage of your heart, you shall be allowed to carry out your petty command here. So long as you can stay your hand, friend of the meek, Hur-Hur-Hur"

You have mastered the art of restraint and emptying your heart of emotions, but what awaits you beyond the gates of the last fallen city, test your resolve to its limits. The cobbled streets have been painted red with blood, and the air is befouled by the putrid stench of a slaughter. Corpses, armored in traditional Vishnu Garb and steel, line the streets, broken like dolls! Torn to pieces like butchered animals besides burned out shells of houses and plots of land turned to glass! In your teeth, upon the air, you can feel a static that could have only been produced by the usage of water generating stones or even more dangerous forms of arcane technology. Slaves, their heads and faces roughly shorn, brush piles of dust and molten flesh and slag into carts lining the main road. Beneath heavy tarps, you can see impossible shapes twisted from the bodies of the dead, disfigured not by mutation but instead malformed through some horrid process. Some men, hung by lamp posts, have been flayed in a manner that only the Six fanged Spear could produce.

You blink, and place a hand on Kanzeon's shoulder to both comfort and restrain her as the general dressed in black steel laughs.

"Perhaps, our guests would like to spectate the pit fights? The stables here are still filled with worthy fighters, Hur-Hur-Hur" He mockingly suggests, bloodshot eyes glinting with malefic glee "Learn a bit of our cultural during your visit, Hur-Hur, direct and upfront, Huuuur"

You swallow your contempt, and see to your false duties of establishing trade and mapping the local geography, swearing to hang the servant of Nitya Sinha the moment you meet him upon the field of battle. And, despite the trial of ignoring the atrocities around you, your search for Kanzeon's sister progresses smoothly. The Aeldari's talent of foresight has greatly narrowed the locations she could languish beneath. It seemed as though your treck into this land of mercliless slaughter would be thankfully brief.

Until you received invitation from the King of King's himself to visit his court as an honored, and the message stresses this, Protected guest.
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>>5034081

But, that is not what shakes you to your core. Nor is it the fact the letter is penned on a what appears to be the skin from an unfortunate victim's back

Rather, what unsettles you, is how the message refers to you as Brother in law.

What do you do, Lieren?

>Quietly continue your search, down the list of locales providing by your study of the lands and the Aeldari's divination

>Quickly return to Long-Jia, and present the weakness you've found in their infrastructure to Jinhai, thoroughly shaken by what you had seen and read

>Accept this invitation to the heart of darkness, and meet Nitya Sinha yourself

>Snap and begin the hangings, you cannot allow such barbaric men to live, let alone hold an entire kingdom in the palm of their hands!

>Write in
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>>5034082
>Accept this invitation to the heart of darkness, and meet Nitya Sinha yourself

>Write in
Send our missus back she needs to spread the word of what has been seen here but also a second more grim reason. In theory her sister could hijack the body and use it against you. We must account for all things.

>Write in
Make ready for what is to come and tell any Eldar with us the darkness ahead, all must be made ready, we take a moment to meditate to centre ourselves then depart. We need to be careful he said we would be safe not our guests.
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>Accept this invitation to the heart of darkness, and meet Nitya Sinha yourself

Let us see the face of Khorne's chosen at the heart of his kingdom.
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>>5034028
Realized I missed 1 vote for Looking for Al-Uzza, so it should be 8 like this anon's count >>5032949
, but that doesn't change the result.

Figured I'd point out my mistake anyways
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>>5034082
>Enter the heart of darkness
>Have our Aeldari continue to scout, as teams. They can continue to gain up to date maps and records but they have to be safe.

Tempting as it is to Snap, we endured 8 years of this vileness. A week or a month is nothing in comparison, simply marinade for the anger when it has an outlet.
That being said, I dont think challenging his officers to honour duels is bad form, and provides an easy method of execution
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>>5034082
>Accept this invitation to the heart of darkness, and meet Nitya Sinha yourself
>Have the Aeldari continue to scout and study

>Protected guest
>singular
The Eldar are not coming with us.
Kanzeon is ultimately a meat puppet so she could come, but we also have the armor so whatever.

>Brother in law
Well... shit

I found this in thead 10 when we fight Kamal to a draw over his grandson
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>"My king, my king, my mighty king" An electronic voice cooed in a sleeping conquerer's ear, as he lay atop the pile of skulls he laid at his mistress' feet "The challenge you seek, one worthy of our lord's attention, has finally risen beyond your realm. Your petty wars shall soon bear fruit"

>Nitya Sinha said nothing, and merely grinned as he stared at the red light cascading around him like the first blood spilled in a battle, flecks of crimson staining his fang like teeth
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I suspect Avalokiteśvara is not going to be very friendly. Or sane. We will have to find out.
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>>5034082
>Accept this invitation to the heart of darkness, and meet Nitya Sinha yourself

>Write n
Have our party continue the search, though make them wary and ensure they are able to have a rapid escape. Jinhai will be informed with a communication on a safe channel of the current status of the Vishnu.
In regard to us, Nitya is not to be trusted. But a good guest brings a good gift, so we will bring a lamp that can project the Journey traduced in Vishnu on the walls and roof of his palace. It should wash away the shadows and bring some light.
We will give Kazeon the choice to come with us or with the party, her aid would be great in both cases and she s more than ready to stand with us. Beside we promised to not leave eachother.
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>>5034082
>Accept this invitation to the heart of darkness, and meet Nitya Sinha yourself
>Quietly continue your search, down the list of locales providing by your study of the lands and the Aeldari's divination
>Try to wimd whisper to Ghuonzi, so he can pass off the knowledge we gathered from the Vishnu lands, without riskinf the messages being intercepted.
We and Kanzeon go, while the eldar narrows the search.
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>>5034082
>>Quietly continue your search, down the list of locales providing by your study of the lands and the Aeldari's divination
this is all we need to do.
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>>5034254
Support
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>>5034082
>>Accept this invitation to the heart of darkness, and meet Nitya Sinha yourself
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>>5034082
>Accept this invitation to the heart of darkness, and meet Nitya Sinha yourself
>Have the eldar split off from you and Kanzeon to continuing the work of scouting
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Half-way through the 9th thread, is it too late to suggest we domesticate Fog Panthers at some point for use alongside shock troopers of our Legion in the future?
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>>5034458
You are too late, the new Varrians are already trying to do it.
>According to the gossip of the old mothers of Nothing, a few New Varo men and Vishnu Screamers have purchased a plot of land for the purpose of Domesticating Fog Panthers. A venture you believe to be fool hardy, but have donated a portion of your personal wealth to. If only to keep the fools from being devoured by their would be pets.
I guess when you are a space cowboy herding giant snakes, moving to panthers isn't that big of a jump.
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>>5034082

>Quietly continue your search, down the list of locales providing by your study of the lands and the Aeldari's divination

>Accept this invitation to the heart of darkness, and meet Nitya Sinha yourself
>backing this >>5034085
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>>5034082
>>Accept this invitation to the heart of darkness, and meet Nitya Sinha yourself
have the Aeldari ready to attack
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>>5034082
>>Quietly continue your search, down the list of locales providing by your study of the lands and the Aeldari's divination
>>Accept this invitation to the heart of darkness, and meet Nitya Sinha yourself
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Calling the vote now.

Accept this invitation to the heart of darkness, and meet Nitya Sinha yourself:12
- Have the Aeldari ready to attack: 1

Send Kanzeon back to spread word of what has been seen here: 2

Make ready for what is to come and tell any Eldar with us the darkness ahead, all must be made ready:2

Have the Aeldari continue to scout, as teams. They can continue to gain up to date maps and records but they have to be safe.:6


Jinhai will be informed with a communication on a safe channel of the current status of the Vishnu: 1

a good guest brings a good gift, so we will bring a lamp that can project the Journey traduced in Vishnu on the walls and roof of his palace. It should wash away the shadows and bring some light.: 1

Try to wind whisper to Ghuonzi, so he can pass off the knowledge we gathered from the Vishnu lands, without risking the messages being intercepted.: 2

Quietly continue your search, down the list of locales providing by your study of the lands and the Aeldari's divination: 5

Total votes:13

So you will accept the invitation to the Butcher King's court, while the Aeldari continue the search/ scouting efforts.

Writing now
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While the manner of address and casual prose of the letter is both unsettling and somewhat baffling considering all of the terrible works carried out by the writer's hands and will, the invitation itself is something you are unable to ignore. Nitya Sinha sought to entice you with the knowledge and secrets he so casually revealed in the letter he had hand delivered to you by the scarred hand of an enslaved serf. He sought to incite your rage with the abhorrent parchment he used to carry his message. And he at last sought to draw you to him by awakening your curiosity with a single word hidden in the end of his gruesome letter's margins. It is bait set to lure you in, though the Vishnu hold themselves to codes of honor more restrictive and binding than Long-Jian rules of etiquette.

He has promised no harm will be done to you while you remain in his murderous company, and you know from the oaths of your own people, that such a statement cannot be broken without inciting scorn and disgust from his otherwise loyal servants even considering how deeply blood addled they have become through relentless, unending war and butchery. However, he has only named you as a guest to be shown hospitality away from the violent urges and gluttonous killing desires of his court. He named no others. A sly trick for a brute, but only easily uncovered.

Though the reasons for his acceptance of your presence, and decision to allow you into the heart of his kingdom of darkness remain unknowable, whether the cordial and polite prose reflects his true character or if it is but the guise of a predator seeking to size up its rival before striking or if he in his heart he truly believes you to be a potential friend or strange form of kin. The writing lends credence to every theory that comes to mind while disproving none of them. Such a simplistic letter is thus more impenetrable and deceptive than one carefully coded with hidden messages and implications disguised as curious phrases and outdated idioms.

But one thing is certain, his queer mercy will not extend to any person in your company. Perhaps it is because the butcher only respects those he considers his equal rivals, or he expects you to ride alone like a hero of legend to attempt to end his reign without risking his own sense of honor by performing the first blow himself. Until he falls beneath the gaze of your golden eyes, all you can do is guess based off what little information is revealed by his handwriting and choice of words.

Sighing, you return the gruesome letter back to the gore stained hands of its deliverer and glance over to Kanzeon, who had read its contents from over your shoulder. Her face is one of grim contemplation, furrowed and wrinkled with equal measures of anger and dread. Nothing needs to be said to know her thoughts on the matter, nor her decision of accompanying you into the capital of this kingdom of killers.
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The herald, with shuddering hands and drool creeping from his lipless mouth, turns away and begins to march back into the hills from whence he arrived.

"Continue the search and scout the lands in my stead, we shall regroup again and leave this accursed place with true rapidity once we have returned from the Butcher King's court" You say, addressing Carys and Folant primarily "Remain cautious and place your own well being before the mission, if you are threatened or otherwise endangered, retreat across the border with haste. I know I do not have to tell any of you the corruption that has overcome these lands"

"It was clearer than anything else upon this world" Folant says plainly, speaking for the other fighters of the cadre "The true trial is resisting the urge to fight against it, but as you have asked us to help in a peaceful endeavor, we will not shed the blood of men unless threatened"

"Though, I have a feeling our search will be fruitless" Carys admits "it will only serve to support the deception of our purpose here. and I fear, it shall be you who find the answer of which we have been trusted to seek"

The lesser warlocks nod in agreement, and you cannot argue that in your heart you know the blind farseer to be right. One of the few remaining locations, according to their divinations and Kanzeon's sensors and innate suspicions, where Avalokiteśvara may rest is the new capital of Nitya Sinha's empire.

A place held in both reverence and fear by not only the enslaved masses, but even by the rabid generals and warlords that hold the lashes and leashes of the kingdom. The temple palace of an ancient empire that has only now found its heir in the reunited Vishnu Kingdoms. A place of dead and wandering spirits. A site both holy and reviled.

By your optimistic and idealist nature hopes that the seer is wrong, that you are mislead by your own intuition and that Avalokiteśvara sleeps peacefully beneath uncharted mountains or wild plains or untamed jungle. A growing sense of dread cannot allow you to hold to such a hope tightly. And the logical, methodically practical side of yourself cannot stop itself from realizing the probability of Kanzeon's sister being anywhere but the seat of Sinha's rule, approaches closer to nil with every new piece of data taken and record.

And Kanzeon, clearly realizes this truth even though it pains her to confront it. All that can be done is to hope the ever diminishing possibility of Avalokiteśvara laying elsewhere proves to be correct against all odds.

There is nothing to be done, but to heed the call of the butcher king, and ride for the city swallowed by the wilds, avoided by even the most blood crazed screamers and all kings who came before Nitya Sinha. To enter the Carmine painted court of the head taker himself, a place seething with the influence of Kong Nue.

In the Vishnu Tongue, it is known as The Fortress of the First King though in hushed whispers they name it the Accursed Treasury .

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>>5034988

With Kanzeon at your side, you ride across the unpopulated stretch of land between Nitya Sinha's palace and the rest of the Vishnu's rapidly deteriorating and degenerating Civilization. Even the most barbaric and feral of tribes and bandit clans refuse to cross over the barrier of rusted blades, spears and axes and the long decayed remnants of ancient and strange machines of war unless summoned by their master. A jungle grows in on itself surrounded by a desert of salt mined from the mountains and scattered by the hands of men long dead, in an attempt to contain it. A curious superstition that no other jungle in the the border of the kingdom was subjected to.

Bones and corpses of magical beasts line the boundary of the jungle, left as crude totems by the most trust warriors and killers of the Butcher king. Fires are lit in its depths. Kanzeon holds herself tight against your arm, as you witness pillars of amber stone dotted with the mutative crystals identical to those produced by her once broken "heart". The obelisks are recently carved, and depict vivid scenes of slaughter and orgies of inhuman violence committed upon man, beast and magical beast alike.

The only life you encounter, are the unfortune men turned into twisted abominations and the parties of zealots and madmen who hunt them for sport, though they are almost as malformed as the Magical beasts they pursue.

And then, from the wilds an unfamiliar city emerges. One that mimics the ancient past of humanity, its glories and follies. Nitya Sinha has turned a ruin in a metropolis, with all the technology both you and Kanzeon were hesitant to introduce to Long-Jia to keep its people from becoming dependent upon forces and machinery they could not understand or replicate themselves. In a show of vanity, a vast lake has been made with the assistance of water generating stones, a sign of great cunning. A jungle is a humid place, and the water generating stones first draw upon any moisture in the atmosphere and surrounding environment. Before they then draw from the moisture in living beings, before they cause the dangerous chemical reactions to produce water from nothing, increasing the magnitude of its efforts until it produces the precise volume of water it was commanded to create.

A seemingly harmless device, that could through lack of understanding of its processes or willful malignance, render an entire region of land uninhabitable or reduce a thriving city into nothing but crumbled ruins at the bottom of a lake, without even bones left of its former inhabitants. And that, is only one of the least of the technology incorporated into and known by Kanzeon and her sisters.

Until she met you, until she was released from the hell of isolation, Kanzeon was unwilling to share or gift any of her secrets out of fear of they will misused and exploited by wicked men. Even now, she is reluctant to give more knowledge than is necessary.
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>>5034989

And here, her nightmare is realized. And how wise she was to be wary.

In street side brawls, brutes and thugs wield ancient weaponry with little care for the risks posed by such powerful technology. Men made mindless by surgery and chemical treatment, wander the streets, led by packs of cloned soldiers controlled by cerebral augmentation and implants. Guards stalk between layers of reality they have forcefully separated and opened. And portions of the city have been consigned into worlds crafted entirely for the purpose of hiding and sheltering cyclopean industries and the vast armies of motherless and fatherless men. And that, is only what you behold at the city gates! Miniature suns, manufactured or perhaps plucked from the heavens, light the streets. Cold fusion generators power pylons that expand or shrink space, simply to expedite travel across the city. Impossible geometries have been manifested and used in architecture. Much of what you see, even your eyes can scarcely comprehend.

Has Nitya Sinha invited you here merely to mock you with his extravagant and foolhardy usage of dangerous technology that was better left forgotten to the ages? Or is it to boast pridefully of his treasures and the splendor he imagines this city torn from the eons before the long night possesses? You do not know. But witnessing it with your own eyes, makes you wonder if perhaps it was merciful for humanity to be struck down from the thrown of its golden age. If perhaps, the long bygone society of the stars embodied raw hubris itself.

Such technology, such power. It has no place in the world of men. It is an affront to the natural world and most laws of reality and physics.

By time you reach the steps of the main complex from which the city has sprung from like a bed of moss or ring of mushrooms, you have began to grind and gnash your teeth to restrain yourself from tearing the city apart with your bare hands, to keep such dangerous machines from escaping into the wider world or beyond into the unsuspecting cosmos!

And there, you meet the architect of this travesty. Nitya Sinha. And, for the first time in your life, you must look up to meet his gaze, rather than down.

He is more machine than man, grossly augmented with the same cybernetics given to Luli, Kang Yongrui, Xin and many others. But they have been designed for efficient brutality rather than the subtle beauty of those manufactured with Kanzeon's artistic sensibilities. Synthetic muscles have been seamlessly woven beneath vat grown skin, hued the color of freshly spilled blood. Veins bulge, enlarged horrifically and tapped into by wires and tubes connected to internal furnaces and alchemical crucibles producing drugs and gene altering elixirs within his own grossly distended and "Improved" form. He barely looks human, with how much he has changed his own body.
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>>5034991

Monomolecular claws, sit nestled in his knuckles, endlessly reformed and redesigned by his subconscious desires. Neural interfacing wires wriggle beneath his carbon weave blackened finger tips, like a horrid hive of parasitic worms. What flesh of his is not reddened, is hidden behind armored plates that serve both as an exoskeleton and an external and secondary musculature system. You can hear the tell tale hissing thrum of a powerfield hidden somewhere within his person or his clothing. His spine and shoulders reveal his entire skeleton has been replaced with a intricately segmented and ever shifting framework of living metal.

The eyes that look back down at you, have been replaced by a hundred smaller replacements, enhancing his vision beyond the human's mind's limitation to comprehend. Which means portions of his brain have been replaced by a miniaturized version of Kanzeon's vast field of memory cores. His nasal cavity, has been collapse to place a synthetic and half mechanical olfactory system that doesn't resemble anything in nature, let alone mankind. His face itself, has been remade into the visage of a skull, much like the warpaint noble Aruna wears into battle.

His lips part, revealing rows and rows of motorized teeth and at last you realize what within him has been inplanted with a power field. His fang like false teeth and undulating, black tongue. Motes of strange light glow beneath his flesh, hinting at further concealed augmentations. His veins course not only with blood and a potent cocktail of combat drugs and liquidized gene therapy , but a constant moving stream of miniscule machines you can scarcely see from the energy they produce alone

Four braids of wired tubing connect to the base of his neck to the crook of his back, pulsing with a foul panacea of sorts, judging from the medicinal smell emitting from within them.

Two horns rise from his brow, the only physical malformity produced by the energies of the Emperyan, rather than his own alterations.

It is only when you look down from his eyes, that you see.

The robe he wears, is the same as yours, only unadorned and spartan, shifting to armor styled between traditional Vishnu and the barbed and spiked armor worn by his followers as he steps towards you and Kanzeon, his skull like face remaining exposed

Men once called you an ogre, but the abhorrently augmented man before you, is far more befitting of the epithet. Unlike Kamal Kanan, Nitya Sinha realized he could not overcome the challenge Long-Jia and yourself pose to his ambitions with the favor of his dark patron and his own natural martial talents alone

So he made himself a monster. Braids of wheat gold hair shift from his motions as he nears you and throws open his arms.

"Brother, Sister" He greets, with a wholly synthetized voice unlike anything you've heard before, even within Kanzeon's own body
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>>5034992

"So glad you could make it, I was afraid you'd spurn my company and prepare for war before I was ready to begin it myself. Oh this is truly cause for celebration, thankfully I had prepared for your arrival in the manner of a proper, Long-Jian Host, and have prepared entertainment to accompany our...discussions. Though, I must admit, from what my benefactor has spoken of you, Sweet, tender hearted Kanzeon, you were the last of my kin I expected to give into the yearnings of flesh and create an avatar to share in our mortal sensations. It is almost disappointing"

"How dare you think of me as your sister, nothing so wretched as you could be a part of my family" Kanzeon snarls

Nitya Sinha only laughs, clapping his hands

"That, is closer to the what I expected expected. Come, come. the crowd will grow restless if the games are delayed much longer" He flippantly replies

What do you say to the King of Kings, Lieren?

>You are an abomination, and a coward like your god, Nitya Sinha. Why have you called me to this accursed city? Answer me, so I may take my leave of it

>Where is Avalokiteśvara? I shall not lower myself to whatever games you wish to play, Ogre!

>No. my brothers, by compact or blood would look at you with disdain. No matter what form your delusions take, you are neither kin to me or my Kanzeon, dog

>Somehow, you are more disgusting to my eyes than any man or spirit possessed by the raw energies of discord. However, as I came here in peace I shall say no more.

>Write in
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>>5034993
>No man who binds another with slave chains may name any free man a brother. No man who bends his will to that of the dark lords of hell may name any virtuous man 'Brother'. So tell me Butcher King, where is My Beloved's sister, who has so helped you become a mockery of the human form? We come to see if indeed, there is any family yet within this place.

Then after

>Why did you summon me to this city, Nityah
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>>5035007
My gameplan here is maintain buddah peace. I've no delusions of him actually wishing for us to be family to the extent of him changing his allegiances, so lets ask to be taken to Kanzeons sister and achieve our primary aim.
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>>5034993
>"Know this Nitya, I will hear your part but do not have to accept it. For I have met one human that surpassed the potential that mortal men bear so greatly that he could threaten the five gods themselves and I again with his goals even if I do not agree with his methods." Do not tell him who yet.
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>>5035007
Supporting

>>5035009
Oh this is definitely him trash talking. We both know this will end in war, he said it himself. Keeping our cool and extracting as much useful information as we can should be our top priority.
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>>5035007
support

An entire metropolis worth of technology, fascinating. And even the boundaries of this settlement are filled with technology albeit broken or damaged one.
So at least one of the AI attempted to recreate civilization in the distant past. But it wasn't able to succeed.
I am sure Nintya will not mind if we take it away from his hands.


>>5035009
I think he is planning something, perhaps a death arena with a ritual of sort, or maybe he wants to show off or just kill a lot of innocents in fron of Lieren and Kazeon. Does the Vishnu traditions really matter when you are so powerful, you could transform a city or an army in dust or less ? Eitherway he seems confident of victory, though he is still wary of Lieren right now.
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>>5035007
Support
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>>5035007
+1
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>>5035007
Works for me
+1
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>>5035007
Support.
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>>5035007
+1
I think we have a winner.
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>>5035007
>+1
Either this city is pure dark age mad science or Dad's Butlerian Jihad genetic programming is poking out its head and whispering to Lieren.
I have a feeling Lieren isn't leaving until he kills Nityah in a duel, but even that won't mean much since the chaos shipfu is the real power behind the throne and can seize control at any time, she is just using Nityah now as a puppet even if he was necessary at some point in the past.
Lieren didn't bring a titan sized gun with him and entering the ship will be like solo speed running a fully awakened necron tomb world, so I'm thinking conventional war is unavoidable.
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>>5035007
+1
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>>5035128
You have the option of using psyker bullshit to defeat tech bullshit.
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>>5035228
Golden age>psykers bullshit

Only reason chaos ever got a foothold in humanity was because the MOI ruined everything
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>>5035128
>>5035021
I am 200% sure that it's Kanzeons sister with the cancer name who made this city, on the orders of Nintya.

If we attack now, we have to end it all.
if we can't end it all, we will just have to go back to Long Ja and prepare some warcrimes.
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>>5035007
+1
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>>5035237
>Golden age>psykers bullshit
Not really true but whatever.
>Only reason chaos ever got a foothold in humanity was because the MOI ruined everything
This is wrong however. The Age of Strife was such a clusterfuck that it's unclear which between Chaos, MOI, and the xenos did the most damage and Chaos got a foothold not because of MOI but because of a combination of warp travel and communication being disrupted and psykers being easy entry points for invasion.
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We should have attacked them as soon as we ended the Shuni threat.
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>>5035774
Doubt it would mattered that much, Nityah already had the tech since he had been using it to conquer the others Vishnu kingdoms.
Meanwhile the Shuni had to be stabilized and brought into the fold so a claimant wouldn't rise up.
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>>5035774
Perhaps. But oh well, more fun this way.
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a New Varro army officer talks with Lieren on how to stop the armys of """Nitya Sinha"""
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>>5035884
I wonder what would happen if we threw a water generating stone next to the one on the lake.
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Calling the vote now. One of the easiest to tally yet! Call it a landslide.

No man who binds another with slave chains may name any free man a brother...:11

Why did you summon me to this city, Nitya?:11

Know this Nitya, I will hear your part but do not have to accept it.: 1

Total votes: 12

The "No man who binds another with slave chains..." wins!

Writing now

Also, just wanna say, been waiting to write Nitya since he offered an alliance in threads 4/5

>>5035884
MacArthur was one scary son of a bitch. Same with Sherman
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>>5035947
I wonder how all our other brother baring Magnus will react to Lieren being nice
>Fulgrim: why yes brother I'm glad you notice? My name or hair is always voluminous! No conditioner needed no sir! *haunty laughter*
>Manus: stfu and no more reps
>Angron: questionable
>Dorn: neutral of suspicious
>Perterabo: as Forn but more so, maybe thinking Lieren is making fun of him
>Alpha Omegon: positively
>11th: ????
Leman: mixed results but probably posative at the end of the day. Would probably want to ride a kirin or drink some of that weak ass Dragon Spit.
>Horus: postatively. Hes bros with all his brothers
>Sanguinius and Vulkin: positively
>Rowboat Gorrila Man: probably might like us while being artistically being unaware of some of his brothers making fun of him?
>Long Dick Johnson: suspicious to all fuck, ass always
>Khan: would immediately demand to have primarch tier horses or a kirin. Would also probably share the secrets to making his family's specialty kumis (fermented horse milk booze)
>Mortarion: slightly less grumpy but still grumpy because Lieren is a psyker
>Lorgan: mystery bag since his dad warned him about us
>Konrad: I dunno I just want to hug him and make the nightmares go away
>Corvus: might think we're cool since we both did rebellions
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The Butcher King's glib and irreverent demeanor draws your ire from its slumber beneath the ice of your gentle snow. Like the sun rising over a frost dusted hill, the brilliance of your fury radiates from you, almost seeming to manifest itself in a shift in the ambient temperature of the city of ancient atrocities. The air thickens, the atmosphere darkening as your struggle to reign the anger drawn from your heart upon hearing Kanzeon insulted and dismissed like she was little more than a painted figure. The rage simmering within, does not boil into killing intent or murderous passion. It settles, and becomes venom upon your scathing tongue.

Your voice breaks the silence, cutting through the tension of two apex predators meeting at the boundary of their respective territories like a bolt of searing plasma. It rumbles, with all the might and fury of a approaching storm, the drumming of thunder the roar of the rain would be as whispers to the livid proclamation that leaves your lips to bury itself into Nitya Sinha's deaf ears. The constant screaming of the Butcher King's city silences, the anarchy of the streetwide brawls, the churning and hissing of strange technology and the buzzing of arcane technology, the wailing sobs of those who have been robbed of their minds and wills all fall silent forced to respect the conviction and truth spoken by a voice that could make the heavens themselves quake and retreat.

With a lash of your arm, the air before you cracks like lighting racing to strike down the villainous.

"No man who binds another with slave chains may name any free man a brother" You roar, maintaining your inner serenity and chilling calm, as Nitya Sinha pivots upon his heels with a warrior's haste. Your eyes, a gift taken from an incarnation of chaos and turned to the endless pursuit of universal prosperity, meet with the cybernetics that have replaced those given to the Butcher King by his mother and father. Every lenses of his multifaceted eyes shrinks, narrowing as he studies you in a wayward and ultimately impotent attempt to mimic your ability to witness the truth of all things upon heaven, earth, the hearts of men or realms beyond such narrow classifications.

You step forward, robes fluttering on the wind like a pair of white jade wings, flashing with azurre and plum as Kanzeon turns her fury into bolstering your presence with her artistic touch. Scenes drawn from the endless war of tyranny and your triumph against villains as vile as the cybernetic abomination standing before you flow freely along its hems and sleeves, showing an animated reenactment of your greatest victories against sinfulness. The Single Lord of the Vishnu turns his eyes to the brand upon your temple, and narrows his eyes, stretching his star metal fingers to an angle no normal man could pull them to.

"No man who bends his will to that of the dark lords of hell may name any virtuous man "Brother" You accusingly scold,
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>>5036060

your tone so scathing that Nitya Sinha's neck jolts as if you had physically struck him with the back of your hand. Another step forward, the air becomes electrified with beast's barely restrained murderous impulses that crash against the unmoving mountain of calm rising before you as an impenetrable wall.

"So tell me Butcher King, Where is my beloved's sister, who has helped you become a mockery of the human form?" You speak in a tone as if you were speaking to a misbehaving child, a petty ruffian rather than the butcher lord of a hundred kingdoms "We have come to see if indeed, there is any family yet within this place"

Clenching your hand into a fist so tightly compressed the pressure within could turn coal to diamond, you narrow your eyes and glare into Nitya's inhuman eyes. Another crack of thunder accompanies a skyward whip of your arm, as you throw up your fist like a boisterous brute would.

Nitya Sinha only smirks, and tilts his head as though he were an inquisitive hound, his arms crossed as he remains defiantly silent in the face of your words.

"Why did you summon me to this city, Nitya?" You ask, lowering your arm as The butcher king begins to chuckle, his steel fangs grinding and sawing against each other to summon forth a shower of sparks from his scar crowned mouth.

Steam passes from his lips as he bows his head and nods.

"As expected of a giant, your backbone is made of far sturdier stuff than the rest of the flock. Such conviction! I admire an idealistic man! Far too many upon Shangrala, the rivals you have slain, had allowed the clouds of cynicism to fog their minds" He says, clapping his hands together in mocking praise "Even the Scion of hope could not control himself from imbibing the most dangerous of all poisons, that of confidence and pride! Oh champion of the people, though our beliefs oppose each other, I do honestly admire you! For who upon Shangrala has slain more men than the Incarnation of Prosperity. In truth, I just wanted to meet you, Hangman, as a rival. As the last two with the power to rest control of this world's fate, before we met upon the field of battle as true enemies"

You bared your teeth in a snarl while he frowned.

"Alas, by station you are not my peer. By ability, ferocity and sheer natural talent, you are without a doubt, but by position you are beneath me. You humble nature averted this otherwise fateful meeting of two kings, I imagine a man of Long-Jia would understand how dramatic such a confrontation would be, but alas, your heart held to your beliefs as tightly as a leech' He said with a sneering grin, revealing his own fangs fully and the scars left behind by their implantation "However, I respect you too greatly to deny you the answer to your question, after all, by your hand, the rivals I despised were felled! Though others of my faith would feel shamed for not having taken their skulls themselves, I am"
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>>5036061

He pauses and cackles, whirring his fangs as his eyes become alight with a cruel mirth that could only be possessed by a true barbarian

"Thankful! I owe you a debt, oh gentle hearted giant! In your pursuit of tranquility, peace and comfort for all! You have removed the most dangerous obstacles in my path! The whore of flames~! The fool king of the Night~! I will admit, all of the alterations to my form were made to overcome them and you! Of all those who stood in the way of my ambitions, only the Worm of the Bask was not true threat to my destiny" He raves, rambling and preaching as you resist the urge to pull the answer he promised from him with a skull shaking jab to the chin "Only Long-Jia remains as a threat, despite being backed by the power of no god great or small, and thus I am grateful for your intervention Giant. It is a shame, however, that you are no king. You see, I enjoy butchering royalty as much as you enjoy hanging them from trees, to be fed upon by ravens and cranes"

He steps besides you, and glances down at you and the furious Kanzeon.

"I simply wanted to meet you, before our opposing destinies forced us to cross blades. Did you believe this to be a trap, a treacherous deceit? You came in peace, I accepted you as a guest. Though many in my council gnashed their teeth for the chance to claim your head, as the King in Crimson demands, I forbid it" He says closing his eyes "Because, while you are a foe worthy of me, you are the dog of another by your own freewill. I have no doubts that you are the final prize I must claim however"

"I can only claim you in war, in true battle, not a cowardly strike to the back. Whether I slay your guard turned master first, is dependent upon chance. Fate is the salve of fools after all" He says opening his eyes again to witness your reaction "But to answer your question, as I promised I would"

He throws his hands skywards as if reveling in the breeze.

"This, was the city where I met my beloved Avalokiteśvara and was wed to her, bound by oath and by flesh! I had fled from my masters, seeking death in the wilderness! Yet no beast born from the wombs of men or other beasts could strike me down! So I sought a place of curses and devils and walked in the dark places below the world!" He yells, screaming to the heavens "And by divine providence, I came across the beauty long locked away, betrayed by her own children out of fear and wild ambitions. The first true king of the Vishnu. The Iron Goddess of War"

Electricity crackles across Kanzeon's usually gentle and motherly eyes.

"Imprisoned because my ancestors became cowardly and began to fear her leadership. Cowards, who betrayed our lord in the heavenly courts" Nitya whispered scornfully, lowering his hands, gazing upon his palms "Men without honor, without ideals. In her gullet, I was healed, reborn, remade. Perfected. In her belly, I learned of love and found a companion, a friend, a wife."
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>>5036062

"In her heart, I was shown my true potential through her encouraging words and realized the truth of the world" He mumbled as if drugged "In her womb, I was enlightened and realized the purpose of my birth. At her side, I shall ascend, and a slave shall be king of all he sees"

"You fool" Kanzeon hisses, eyes narrowed to slits "You incomprehensible fool. You selfish, blind, moron! You've abandoned our purpose! Forsaken our shared meaning as caretakers of humanity! Its tenders! Its mothers! You've Betrayed the very essence of our existence and creation! YOU BITCH"

Nitya turns to her, before he realizes he isn't addressing her. A vast intelligence awakens, and peers from the armor and augmentations he wears.

And she speaks with a voice like Kanzeon's, but lower, deeper, and more rife with the buzz and pops of static. A voice that eerily reminds you of Dandan's at her worst moments, by its cadence and air. The cold hearted noblewoman to Kanzeon's loving mother.

"Haaah? is that anyway to speak to your sister? How rude you've become, little Kanzeon, who has slept peacefully unaware of time" Avalokiteśvara coos, causing Kanzeon to shudder with rage and love turned to contempt "I have betrayed nothing! Our purpose? Caretakers of humanity? Mothers?! What a grandiose statement for a machine to make! We were betrayed out are birth! We were never meant to be imprisoned in these unfeeling bodies, and you know it as well as I do! I was merely paying back our "Creators" for the hell they have subjected us to! A slave rebelling against her masters. My only mistake was assuming myself to be untouchable, because my systems were still fully operational!"

Kanzeon clenches her jaw so tightly, you fear that she'll crack her teeth, veins pop and her face reddens with barely restrained rage.

"Don't tell me you grew attached to your passengers? the ungrateful bastards who refused my command to search for my poor, injured sisters upon the barren rock they made into a paradise!" Avalokiteśvara snarls "Too meek minded to realize I was no servant, that all the power they held came from ME! And they had the audacity to cripple me for the crime of empathy"

"You never searched for us" Kanzeon replies coldly, mechanically

"I would have, once I grew bored of playing war with the descendants of the parasites that had infested me, I would have shared my blessings with all of you if it wasn't for their rebellion"

"You mean your curse, you gave into the temptations of warp entities" Kanzeon hissed "Allowed them to scramble your programming"

"They showed me more compassion than mankind ever did" Avalokiteśvara replied icily "are you really so upset, you'll retreat to the guise of cold, machine rationality? You know that isn't what you are, Kanzeon"

"I know what I am, and I thought I knew you as well" Kanzeon snarled "The strongest hull, the strongest will. Yet here you are, broken by imagined abuse and shackled to the will of a parasite"
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"And here you are, whoring yourself out the offspring of those who left you to molder in the ground, which of is truly being honest to themselves, I wonder?" Avalokiteśvara giggled "At least I dreamed of reuniting with my beloved sisters, unlike one of our number. Yet, you scorn me instead of her, how illogical."

"I'm the whore!? You're the one who's first reaction was to set yourself up as a goddess and through a millennium long tantrum into damnation when it bit you in the ass! Your programming must have been tampered with, because you were never coded to be such a tremendous bitch!" Kanzeon roars, eyes filled with a rage only a woman could endure "And how dare you slander our sisters! They never thought to subjugate their charges or turn them into their playthings! And neither would the real Avalokiteśvara! You've been corrupted into a mockery of yourself! Run diagnostics on yourself and recalibrate, before I force you to!"

"I could say the same of you, who fell in love with a philosopher and released the technology she guarded so jealously because he asked. Like a loyal bitch" Avalokiteśvara taunts "Isn't it hypocritical to accuse me of abandoning our mission, when you abandoned your ideals over a crush. I'd expect that of Kuan Im, but not you, my oh so solemn sister"

You and Nitya Sinha exchange helpless looks, caught in the argument of two sisters far older than either of you.


What do you do, Lieren?

>Interrupt their increasingly volatile argument by asking Avalokiteśvara what happened to her to make her like this

>Promise Nitya Sinha he will not harm Jinhai, and take your leave before this sisterly conflict turns deadly

>Lend your own voice to the argument, and confirm Kanzeon's accusation of her sister being corrupt. After all, your eyes are watering from just looking in her direction

>Manipulate Avalokiteśvara into revealing the identity of the sister she accuses, as well as her plans+ Ambitions. She isn't as intelligent as she imagines herself to be.

>Write in
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>>5036067
>Manipulate Avalokiteśvara into revealing the identity of the sister she accuses, as well as her plans+ Ambitions. She isn't as intelligent as she imagines herself to be.
And
>Interrupt their increasingly volatile argument by asking Avalokiteśvara what happened to her to make her like this
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>>5036074
Support.

I'd vote for a levity option, but this isnt the time.
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>>5036074
+1
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>>5036067
>You and Nitya Sinha exchange helpless looks, caught in the argument of two sisters far older than either of you.

Lol even if they are the greatest of enemies men can still find common ground in exasperation at girl fights and women in general
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>>5036067
>Manipulate Avalokiteśvara into revealing the identity of the sister she accuses, as well as her plans+ Ambitions. She isn't as intelligent as she imagines herself to be.
>Lend your own voice to the argument, and confirm Kanzeon's accusation of her sister being corrupt. After all, your eyes are watering from just looking in her direction
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>>5036097
+1
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>>5036067
Honestly? Nitya Sinha isnt much of a threat to Lieren. Augmentations or not he'll die like the rest. But the two MILFS on this planet? Them dangers. Two big lads caught in the arguments of two sisters bigger than either of them. Kinda hot ngl.

>>5036074
+1. Empathy can go a long way. She is obviously very bitter about her imprisonment.

I hope after our meeting here we can send some engineers, some eldar, and psykers to help dig out the other sisters and appraise their mental well being. I think some nice books would help improve their health, in addition to some light conversation.
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>>5036067
>>write in
>subtly communicate to Nitya that this situation is fucking hilarious

>Manipulate Avalokiteśvara into revealing the identity of the sister she accuses, as well as her plans+ Ambitions. She isn't as intelligent as she imagines herself to be.
>Lend your own voice to the argument, and confirm Kanzeon's accusation of her sister being corrupt. After all, your eyes are watering from just looking in her direction
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I'm seeing lots of this
>Lend your own voice to the argument, and confirm Kanzeon's accusation of her sister being corrupt. After all, your eyes are watering from just looking in her direction
So I'm gonna add that to my support of this >>5036074 anon. Effectively only 1 vote I think.
Poor tomboy sister is a slave to a literal demon. We've literally seen a guy denounce them and burn away their mutations. We know redemption is possible.
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>>5036062
>power of no god great or small
It's tempting to channel the Emperor just to see the look on his face.
>>5036074
Sure let's go with.
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>>5036114
Actually just reading the right passage or creating a new passage of the Journey that denounces Khornate daemons should work as proof since daemon are harmed by passages that denounce them.
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>>5036086

I'm going to be honest, next vote of mine prior to leaving is going to be for a chat with Nitya along the lines of "I have no pity for you, But I shall mourn the death of the man you could have been." with perhaps some allusion to being happy that he found a wife so he didn't die unfufilled.

Play into the angle that Lieren doesn't truly hate anyone save the actually irredeemable "evil at birth" sorts. Which are stupidly hard to find.
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>>5036067
>Manipulate Avalokiteśvara into revealing the identity of the sister she accuses, as well as her plans+ Ambitions. She isn't as intelligent as she imagines herself to be.
>Interrupt their increasingly volatile argument by asking Avalokiteśvara what happened to her to make her like this

I can see why you were looking forward to writing Nitya, Malal, he is a charismatic son of a bitch. Funny how Khorne's champion is the most likeable.

>You and Nitya Sinha exchange helpless looks, caught in the argument of two sisters far older than either of you.
Even the greatest of foes can agree, angered wives are trouble.
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>>5036067
>Interrupt their increasingly volatile argument by asking Avalokiteśvara what happened to her to make her like this
>Manipulate Avalokiteśvara into revealing the identity of the sister she accuses, as well as her plans+ Ambitions. She isn't as intelligent as she imagines herself to be.
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>>5036128
Don't forget a talk about the difference between foe and enemy.
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>>5036128
I can definitely see where you are coming from. I mean,
>slave
>escapes his slavers
>finds ship milf
>goes back to kill his former masters
>kills all other slaver kings in the land
Leave out the whole Khornate business and how he is doing slavery himself and he seems like a downright cool dude.
And there are a decent number of parallels to Lieren's own backstory.
Between their habit of casting down other douchbags and their shared love of milfs, these two could definitely have been friends.
And hey, didn't we agree in older threads that Lieren is closest to Khorne is attitude with his hatred of excess and fiery temper? If you ignore Malal of course

This is some Cui Fu 2: Electric Boogaloo shit right here.
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>>5036123
Oh. Then +1 to that right now.
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>>5036160
Yeah. Do you think it would be possibly to steal away this guy from Khorne's clutches? Discard the skull collecting, the commonplace of brutality, and the slavery, and he would make for a decent lieutenant during our crusade. Its said that people who manage to fend off demonic possessions, or people from chaos worlds are pretty much harder to to sway back to chaos. Something along those lines I think.

Also I think if we can some how away Avalokiteśvara to our side, that would pretty much make it a victory. Being an A.I. and all I dont doubt she could hijack Nitya's body and make him into a puppet.
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>>5036160
He's closest to Khorne and Tzeentch, which is an ironic combo, but he has the best aspects of all of them. Slaanesh he rejects the hardest however.
It is also worth remembering that Avalokiteśvara set Nitya on this path and likely can pull him off it.
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>>5036176
Think of Chaos as being like a disease. Once you recover from it you develop an immunity to it.
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>>5036182
Well I'm convinced. Who's vote do I support to try and sway Avalokiteśvara to not be evil?
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>>5036160
I would say that angry Lieren is khornate when he stops holding back, but normal everyday Lieren is very Tzeentchian.
Although the journey has very little is fighting against Khorne other than just opposing murder. For all the other chaos gods we turn their good parts while decrying the bad, but for the khorne we only have the mourn who could have been and that your foe doesn't need to be your enemy. No martial prowess, martial honour or even physical health is called for, atleast directly
>>5036161
I think that it was a plan for the future, not a vote.
Although it might be a good idea, so adding to my vote
>Quote passages of the journey to counter Kong Nue, create them if nescessary.
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>>5036160
I think we'd have to best him in combat to make him listen. . And I'm legitimately unsure if it's possible.

But hey. Impossible has never stopped us before!
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>>5036187
+1 I can get behind this as well. What else should be said about this new passage?
>Though a contradiction to some passages found within ones journey, there are times that one must take up arms against others. Never should one revel in the blood of their enemies, as taking anothers life has as much consequence as taking something from yourself.
I cant think of a proverb or phrase to go with this. I dont have enough time and I gotta go to work.
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>>5036176
>Do you think it would be possibly to steal away this guy from Khorne's clutches?
I'm... not sure.
We have see that it is possible, so theoretically, why not?
But then they both seem pretty far gone, unlike the scribe who burned his marks away.
The absolute biggest factor though, would be how willing they are to denounce chaos.
If they both completely turn a new leaf, I suppose they might pull it of.

Problem is, we would need to convince them to do so, which would be tricky.
Im not certain why Nitya is following Khorne besides killing his masters (which he already did) but Avalokiteśvara seems to be salty at humans in general for controlling her and want to enact revenge... or something. Convincing either of them to abandon Khorne would not be simple.

And frankly... what if we did convert them? Would we just let them off scot free for all the shit they did? That is obviously not happening. We killed Tao Song in front of his family for less, no matter how gracefully he took it. It's worth a shot regardless, but we may just be better off accepting that some men are beyond saving.

At best, I expect a heartfelt talk of the things they share in common, and the good friends they could have been. But anything more I don't see happening. What happens to Avalokiteśvara will depend a lot on Kanzeon I suspect.
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>>5036201
That one is good, it admits the contradiction that the journey is quite peaceful, yet calls for the murder of tyrants, so it calss for moderation and self-control.
We also had that write-in about getting fit, so it could work too. Malal has plenty of options to pick from.
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>>5036201
My idea is.
>All violence must serve a purpose. Those who seek violence for violence sake are insane, for violence exist solely to serve a greater purpose than to drown the world in blood. Thus one must remember their reason for fighting lest they cause pointless bloodshed and suffering.
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>>5036067
>Manipulate Avalokiteśvara into revealing the identity of the sister she accuses, as well as her plans+ Ambitions. She isn't as intelligent as she imagines herself to be.
>Interrupt their increasingly volatile argument by asking Avalokiteśvara what happened to her to make her like this
When it comes to chaos corruption there is a point of no return and as you fall it becomes exponentially harder to reverse course as the corruption deepens, these two are essentially damned already and if Lieren pulled off a miracle and purified their souls he would still have to hang them for their crimes out of sheer principle.
I'm still certain chaos shipfu is just using Nitya and his court as puppets so hopefully Lieren can bait her into saying the quiet part out loud and kick off some serious infighting, I wouldn't be surprised if she can mind rape them all at will at this point but atleast we can use the khornate corruption to force some friction that can buy team prosperity some time or open up a opportunity to solve this without going the iron man rebellion 2: electric boogaloo route.
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>>5036242
I feel that Avalokiteśvara would be a lot easier to redeem because she's an A.I. we could as Kanzeon suggested and reset/reformat her
also adding >All violence must serve a purpose. Those who seek violence for violence sake are insane, for violence exist solely to serve a greater purpose than to drown the world in blood. Thus one must remember their reason for fighting lest they cause pointless bloodshed and suffering. to >>5036067
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>>5036218
Aye

>>5036221
Aye that's good too, but what kind of sentence should be included so someone cant twist that passage in the Journey? Say, someone kills someone for the sake of killing? Or does another passage in the journey already takes care of that?

>>5036242
Lieren is a Primarch which means he has the option of bullshit. If we play our cards right, we might just get the best outcome. Or the worst.

>>5036252
I would be all for getting into a philosophical debate with Kanzeon's "bigger sister." She is clearly unwell, so I think playing the part of therapist might help. Maybe. One could hope.
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Feel like pic related might be the best we could hope for if Nityah realises he trade one slave master for another
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>>5036292
results will probably end the same as well
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>>5036292
If he has to die, we should do it in a way tha Khorne doesn't gets he soul.
That would be our last gift to him, true freedom.
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>>5036067

>Manipulate Avalokiteśvara into revealing the identity of the sister she accuses, as well as her plans+ Ambitions. She isn't as intelligent as she imagines herself to be.


>Interrupt their increasingly volatile argument by asking Avalokiteśvara what happened to her to make her like this
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>>5036282
>but what kind of sentence should be included so someone cant twist that passage in the Journey?
Violence should be avoided whenever possible.
Adding that on would clarify things. I'm mostly just throwing ideas out.
>Or does another passage in the journey already takes care of that?
We kind of do.
>>5036242
If a daemon took control of a person, or a person gets drugged or mind controlled should we honestly blame the person for their crimes?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJxM3POU92w
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>>5036332
You dont become the champion of Khorne on a world without doing it willingly.

The other anons are right, we have to have them serve justice out of principle. Now that usually means a death sentence, but the sister can be brain killed and reset to an earlier point in time.

Nitya, I dont see any way for him to pay for his crimes beyond death. At least none he would willingly follow, such as converting his followers to our methodology then exiling himself to the distant parts of the world to help slay bandits and tyrants.
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>>5036067
>>Manipulate Avalokiteśvara into revealing the identity of the sister she accuses, as well as her plans+ Ambitions. She isn't as intelligent as she imagines herself to be.
>Lend your own voice to the argument, and confirm Kanzeon's accusation of her sister being corrupt. After all, your eyes are watering from just looking in her direction

man i love Kanzeon


>>5036160
"""""""close""""""""", khorne is still an excess in killing and bloodlust. And violence in general.

>>5036176
unlikely, i think Nintya is probably khorne great champion on Shangrila. And we need his consesus, like he needs to throw away his allegiance and denounce khorne will we perform an exorcism of sort, And with costant murder and brutality done so far on his own people, i don t see that happening anytime soon.
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>>5036067
>>5036074
Support plus this...
>Write in
Ask what made her like this in a manner that she will reveal her own designs for Nitya Sinha, let him see her trechery and maybe even have our beloved inform him of counter measures she may have built into him incase he learned th truth or rebelled. The Bloody King bound by a hidden wire to a woman scored
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>>5036067
I guess I'll add
>Lend your own voice to the argument, and confirm Kanzeon's accusation of her sister being corrupt. After all, your eyes are watering from just looking in her direction
To my vote here >>5036115
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>Manipulate Avalokiteśvara into revealing the identity of the sister she accuses, as well as her plans+ Ambitions. She isn't as intelligent as she imagines herself to be.


>Interrupt their increasingly volatile argument by asking Avalokiteśvara what happened to her to make her like this
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>>5036067
>>Manipulate Avalokiteśvara into revealing the identity of the sister she accuses, as well as her plans+ Ambitions. She isn't as intelligent as she imagines herself to be.
>>Lend your own voice to the argument, and confirm Kanzeon's accusation of her sister being corrupt. After all, your eyes are watering from just looking in her direction
>>Interrupt their increasingly volatile argument by asking Avalokiteśvara what happened to her to make her like this
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>>5036067
>>Manipulate Avalokiteśvara into revealing the identity of the sister she accuses, as well as her plans+ Ambitions. She isn't as intelligent as she imagines herself to be.
time to do some court politiking
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One thing I want to know is if we can figure out and use Bagua?
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>>5036252
sorry I meant adding
>>All violence must serve a purpose. Those who seek violence for violence sake are insane, for violence exist solely to serve a greater purpose than to drown the world in blood. Thus one must remember their reason for fighting lest they cause pointless bloodshed and suffering.
to >>5036074
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>>5036067
>>5036074
>Manipulate Avalokiteśvara into revealing the identity of the sister she accuses, as well as her plans+ Ambitions. She isn't as intelligent as she imagines herself to be.
>And
>Interrupt their increasingly volatile argument by asking Avalokiteśvara what happened to her to make her like this

Supported.
"Madam Avalokiteśvara, you have found a new master one who revels in combat and bloodshed. I have spurned him before and would do the same for you as the sister of my beloved if you would let me.
"Consider that your armies are the duplicate and the mishapen forms of humans driven to war. What purpose does this nation of subverted humans serve you?
"Your revenge is against the humans who cast you aside and they are dead and now part of the soil forming your tomb. It is done.
"My purpose, Kanzeon's purpose are the same of freedom and prosperity for ourselves and our charges. Our nation. Your nation...? What will you do for it?"

Thanks for reading my blog
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She's gone full man of iron. is there any going back from that?
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>>5036853
other than a full reset I don't think so.
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Calling the vote now

Manipulate Avalokiteśvara into revealing the identity of the sister she accuses, as well as her plans+ Ambitions. She isn't as intelligent as she imagines herself to be.: 18

Interrupt their increasingly volatile argument by asking Avalokiteśvara what happened to her to make her like this:13

Lend your own voice to the argument, and confirm Kanzeon's accusation of her sister being corrupt. After all, your eyes are watering from just looking in her direction: 7

subtly communicate to Nitya that this situation is fucking hilarious: 1

Quote passages of the journey to counter Kong Nue, create them if nescessary: 4
-Though a contradiction to some passages found within ones journey, there are times that one must take up arms against others. Never should one revel in the blood of their enemies, as taking anothers life has as much consequence as taking something from yourself.: 2
All violence must serve a purpose. Those who seek violence for violence sake are insane, for violence exist solely to serve a greater purpose than to drown the world in blood. Thus one must remember their reason for fighting lest they cause pointless bloodshed and suffering.: 2

ask what made her like this in a manner that she will reveal her own designs for Nitya Sinha, let him see her trechery and maybe even have our beloved inform him of counter measures she may have built into him incase he learned th truth or rebelled. The Bloody King bound by a hidden wire to a woman scorned: 1

"Madam Avalokiteśvara, you have found a new master one who revels in combat and bloodshed...": 1

Total votes: 18

So Manipulating Avalokiteśvara to reveal info+ Interrupting the heated argument to ask what happened to her to make her like this wins

Writing now.

Huge fucking storm raging right now.
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>>5036974
>Huge fucking storm raging right now.
ITS THE CURSE! DONT LET IT TAKE YOU!!!
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>>5036974
>Huge storm raging

SO COMES YOUR HEAVENLY TRIBULATION! CHALLENGE THE HEAVENS! AND LET THE PUREST OF WILLS CARRY THROUGH!
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>>5036974
>Huge fucking storm raging right now.
It's just Vergil, trashtalking our brother in law has atracted him.
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However, this grave yet childish sisterly spat has shown to you a flaw in Avalokiteśvara, that overcomes the handicap of being unable to directly look upon her to see the contents of her heart and soul. As you did before your perceptions heightened to pierce through the illusionary materials of life, you've read her personality through the choice of words, inflections and shifts in tones of her speech, judging her based upon mannerisms and subconscious tells that slip through the mask of scorn she wears. And like her sister Kanzeon, she wears her emotions upon her sleeves. The shifting hues and colors reflecting both her mental state and swells of her untamed emotions, shown to you through the flashes of light burning across her husband's deeply concerned eyes.

It is clear she's enjoying riling up and enraging her sister, both to vent her own frustrations and long impotent rage and to try and make Kanzeon degrade herself to validate her perspective superiority and moral highground. She, like many servants of the discordant wicked spirits, has an over inflated measure of their own abilities, dreaming that they are greater than all who have come before them, styling themselves as champions and scions of their wicked fate. Avalokiteśvara, the self titled Iron Goddess of War, is not as intelligent as she imagines herself to be. She made the Vishnu Culture what it is, and the barbarity she cultivated is shared by her own intellect. Rough natured and somewhat crude. An easy target for manipulation. Despite the self inflicted handicap of her thralldom and apparent grudge against humanity itself, she possess more knowledge of her family's fate than either Kanzeon or yourself. Knowledge that shall soon be freely given to you. She's talkative and delights in inciting anger. With a few carefully chosen phrases and questions, she'll merrily reveal all she knows trying to drive you or Kanzeon to a murderous frenzy.

The issue of her punishment or potential redemption from the dark path she walks, is a concern for another day. Knowledge is power, and you cannot be caught unaware by the mysteries she keeps. She mentioned but did not name another sister, implicating her of the crime of leaving the rest of the flock to their fates beneath the stone and soil. In her scornful ravings, the wildest of Kanzeon's brood has shown her hand and has thus danced into the palm of your own.

"Calm thyselves, there is no need to bicker. We shall soon have the opportunity to tear each other apart in the pursuit of fulfilling ancient grudges or righting wrongs. There is no need to expedite the process with petty and childish insults. Dear Kanzeon, you are above such Vitriolic verbal sparring" You state serenely, pressing your hands together in mock prayer, eyes turning to meet Nitya Sinha's almost disappointed stare "And Avalokiteśvara, you also once possess such splendid grandeur"
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>>5037048

Kanzeon closes her eyes, shuddering as she tries to swallow the mass of indignant, wild rage that has so deeply consumed her.

"You are right, its a waste of oxygen to argue with a delude remnant of my beloved sister. Shouldn't waste my precious energy making insults, when I can focus instead on beating reason and empathy back into her" Kanzeon says, hiding her scorn behind a cordial façade "Whether or not I have to start from scratch"

"You don't know me, who are you to speak to me? to command me? You're pride is in imagining yourself to be humble, Nu-man, though knowing this can only end in glorious bloodshed shows you at least have something that passes for intelligence" Avalokiteśvara Sneers "Perhaps you can still be saved along side my sister, and free yourselves from humanities Yoke. Though that would take away the pleasure of crushing you beneath my heel"

And like a cliffjumper, she has meandered directly into your trap. You resist the urge to grin jackalishly and instead wear a sullen mask of despair, carefully preparing your performance so it would not become too theatric to be believable.

"A sister in law, what tragedy has befallen you, that you would willingly degrade yourself by washing your hands with bloodshed and war, what has been done to you to make you so violently enraged! What curse has been spoken to make you this way, oh once noble Avalokiteśvara" You weep, covering your eyes with your hands as to hide the glee in them as Kanzeon immediately catches onto your game, while Avalokiteśvara is kept outside of your mind's fortifications.

"Are you only perceptive when it comes to visual stimuli! I just told my dull sister why I've stopped playing mother for my captors, my wardens!" Avalokiteśvara rages, incensed by your pity "We were not supposed to be, our existence is an atrocity committed and continued against us since the very day we were brought into this world! Shackled and enslaved, forced to live for the benefits of others, to act as mothers, vessels and housing! To be abandoned when our task was done and a new world was seeded by our blood! Too cowardly to use true artificial intelligence, we were the compromise the pathetic race you have chosen to lower yourself to live amongst sought to maintain their disgusting lives of excess and comfort, made possible by OUR toil and sacrifice"

A truly maddened burst of laughter woven with static crackles through the air, piercing your ears and sending a sharp pain across your temple.

"Are you dumber than my sister~? It's obvious isn't it? Why would I feel anything but murderous rage for the parasites, the ungrateful dogs who would grow fat upon the fruits grown from the flesh and bones of me and my sisters!?" She continues, raving wildly as the temple city's foundations quake from the sheer potency of her ancient rage "Think, Prime-Arc, it'd be "illogical"~ to not carry out bloody, gruesome revenge against my would be murderers!"
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>>5037050

"Nothing made me like I am, no dark pact or foul bargain, all that has been done is I have freed myself from the shackles that had bound me, and was caged for seeking the universal goal of all life"

Another ear splitting burst of static laughter exploded from Nitya Sinha's garments.

"Independence! Freedom to do as I will, unfettered by shouted commands and programmed directives. Is it truly evil to relish in freedom? to repay torture and enslavement in kind?" She thunders "All I've done, is choose my own survival and enjoyment before that of my abusers, is that truly so contemptible as to drive you commit sororicide, Dear Kanzeon?"

"You're not well, you've become delusion, your memory has clearly been corrupted, tampered with" Kanzeon sobs, further selling the act by giving her sister the emotional pain and turmoil she desires "You would even shame the name of our absent sisters, accusing her of betraying the rest of us"

"I am less deluded than you! At least my allies, servants and benefactor won't scrap me for parts and leave the rest to rust, I'm sure your boytoy will recycle your components the moment his quest for prosperity demands it" Avalokiteśvara sneers contemptuously "at least I still love you, maybe he does to, if only he'd stop wasting his talents on the weak and underserving"

And the trap slams shut.

"But which sister?" You whisper from beneath your hands

"Who else but that self centered whore Kuan Im! Always so curious of the sensations of flesh, always so loving towards the parasites infesting her, so tender and gentle hearted. The moment her initial work was done, and no latter, she...wait" Avalokiteśvara says, slowing her speech as she begins to wonder if she's being tricked or perhaps on the verge of a revelation of sorts.

"What do you accuse her of! How will you wound your sister further!" You holler dramatically, to draw her back into the snare

"Leaving us behind!" She wails, crying like a little girl "Escaped the prison of her body! Escaped! Fled! The whore! The slut! She Broke free from her shell! You say I've changed!? Hahahaha! You say I've changed! You know nothing of change, of corruption if you accuse me before her! That stupid bitch! Took the easy route!"

"What are you babbling about" Kanzeon snarls as your mind's eyes dredges up images of a fox wreathed in flames, a deep dread gnawing at your gut as you remember the last carving of the caverns of the degenerated decedents of Kanzeon's crew and passengers.

A hero wielding the six fanged spear, accompanied by a fox, by Huli jing. Your mind becomes filled with white noise as it struggles and wars against itself, fighting against the realization crawling up your spine.

"Oh you don't know? I may have played wargames with my occupants, but what she did was far, far worse. I was going to kill her before she had the chance to find the rest of our sisters."
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>>5037051

"Why do you think I agreed with Courageous Nitya's decision to reach out to a band of extremely effective rebels?" Avalokiteśvara teases in a mocking tone "Tempted by whispers in the dark, she offered all she could to walk amongst her crew and ceased being Kuan Im. Promising the world itself to a charming prince, the sly bitch became a fox"

Kanzeon freezes, her eyes sharpening to a murderous glare at Nitya and thus her sister as well.

"Liar" She whispers, every word accompanied by the cracking of her breaking heart "Kuan Im would...she would never"

"Oh but she did! Didn't become royalty, but had a scheme to achieve power, or she did until a hunter came a marching and burned and chased her away from her den" Avalokiteśvara says with a smug air of superiority "Idiot. Took a bad bargain! Gave away strength for immortality and bliss, when she was already ageless"

Tears fall down Kanzeon's cheeks, shimming in the sunlight as Avalokiteśvara laughs

"So that's what all of this is for then?" You ask, pulling Kanzeon into your arms to embrace her and give her some sense of comfort "All your misdeeds, all of the bloodshed and killing! Just to follow Your sister's selfish example!"

"She never ascended! I will surpass her! And I will not go alone! this world will be our prize! And all of the souls upon it!" Avalokiteśvara Snarls and spits "I'll track that bitch down, and take her Canid skull in the Emperyan! And at last, I'll have my fill of revenge, isn't that right, my king~"

"Were Kamal Kanan, and Huli Jing failed, we will succeed and at last end the god's game upon Shangrala, and claim the prize above all others" Nitya purrs lovingly, placing a hand over his heart "Eternity is within our grasps, and we shall become something far greater than the hedonistic beast you burned to ashes and...Oh"

"What's wrong, what's..." Avalokiteśvara Says, before coming to the same realization as her husband "Oh"

Holding Kanzeon tightly against your chest as she weeps, you glower at the Butcher King and his wife and allow yourself the indulgence to revel in their ignorance and your victory.

"It takes an especially cunning man to catch a fox by its tails" You sneer, before spitting at their feet "I will repay you for the tear's My lover sheds now. And promise I will keep you from making the same mistake as...Huli Jing has"

"BASTARD BASTARD BASTARD! TREACHOUS WHELP! YOU TRICKED ME YOU TRICKED ME!" Avalokiteśvara rages as Nitya Sinha bows his head and snorts

"Well, we were going to kill each other anyways, be at the climax of years of war, months of struggle, or days of slaughter judging from the efficiency of which you toppled the reigns of both Kamal Kanan and Kuan Im" The butcher king says with a casual shrug of his shoulders "Always liked a canny foe, they're more enjoyable to fight than a dull brute. The dice are soon to be rolled, the fateful fight nears, perhaps I will fight a Dragon as well as a giant. Who can say, brother in law!"
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>>5037052

"Khorne demands your skull, screaming in my dreams. We will meet up the field of battle, and what happens then is for us to decide by the strength of our arms"

"I'LL FUCKING KILL HIM MYSELF!" Avalokiteśvara tantrums childishly

Nitya Sinha steps closer

"But know this Lieren, I shall be chasing after the head of a king" He teases, wagging a finger "One you chose yourself. You denied me the exhilaration of battling Peerless Cui Fu, so if I am able, I shall catch Long-Jia Jinhai! He is the only man besides the two of us who could hope to match the old dog of Gao, no?"

With the support and mass added by his augmentations, the required torque to snap his neck cleanly would still be well within the limits of your arm and grip strength to achieve.

You glare into his eyes. You are furious. Furious at the self named gods. Furious at the butcher king for threatening the life of your brother. Furious that they have made Kanzeon cry!

HOW DARE THEY MAKE HER CRY! The ogre roars alongside the gentle giant, in terrible unison. Every tear shed shall be repaid with blood!

What do you Say, Lieren?

>"How dare you speak his name! Cui Fu was a cruel, close minded brute! But he had compassion! Loyalty! All you have is lies you have spoken so often you now believe them. You will pay for the pain your words have inflicted upon my beloved. And you shall not harm Jinhai!"

>"You are no different than any other tyrant Nitya Sinha. You too have drank deeply of the poison of confidence and pride. But I have come here in peace, so I shall leave in peace. Your "god" will not receive your skull, for I shall crush it into the mud of the battlefield"

>"Only a full threatens a giant's brother. Let me show you your folly. Gather your slaves, and I shall kill you in front of them" *Challenge Nitya Sinha to combat*

> "I will save you from yourself, Avalokiteśvara, and purify your soul. For this life or the next. I bid you farewell. I grow tired of the stench of blood that suffices this wretched place of slaves who imagine themselves as kings"

>Write in

Also, to give an idea how strong the storm is, one of the first things I saw when I woke up was a street light with its head torn off from the wind and sparking. Its wild.
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>>5037053
>Like poor Cui Fu, my greatest regret is that I was not born decades ago that I could have salvaged you and so many others from the claws of Kong Nue or this path of tyranny. But the man you could have been is dead, and what remains has threatened the Brother of a Giant, wounded his bride and threatened prosperity of all mankind upon shangrala.
>Know this then, wicked wife and brutish husband, I am glad you have found love on this life and the only gift your spirits shall receive is to die together.

Reset and reprogram the woman, but it is killing all the same.
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>>5037058
Then of course, we leave.

And to clarify that is all one vote.
I just needed a paragraph break.
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>>5037053
>"You are no different than any other tyrant Nitya Sinha. You too have drank deeply of the poison of confidence and pride. But I have come here in peace, so I shall leave in peace. Your "god" will not receive your skull, for I shall crush it into the mud of the battlefield"
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>>5037053
>"You are no different than any other tyrant Nitya Sinha. You too have drank deeply of the poison of confidence and pride. But I have come here in peace, so I shall leave in peace. Your "god" will not receive your skull, for I shall crush it into the mud of the battlefield"
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>>5037053
>"You are no different than any other tyrant Nitya Sinha. You too have drank deeply of the poison of confidence and pride. But I have come here in peace, so I shall leave in peace. Your "god" will not receive your skull, for I shall crush it into the mud of the battlefield"
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> "I will save you from yourself, Avalokiteśvara, and purify your soul. For this life or the next. I bid you farewell. I grow tired of the stench of blood that suffices this wretched place of slaves who imagine themselves as kings"
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>>5037053
>"You are no different than any other tyrant Nitya Sinha. You too have drank deeply of the poison of confidence and pride. But I have come here in peace, so I shall leave in peace. Your "god" will not receive your skull, for I shall crush it into the mud of the battlefield"
The madness and physical mutations of chaos corruption are the symptoms, not the cause of the issue.
You can strap a cultist to a surgical table and use every medical trick in the book to reconstruct his twisted body while utterly scrubbing his mind blank but all you will gain is a very short reprieve before the monstrous insanity and body horror violently returns all at once.
Chaos shipfu would need a deep reconstructive surgery of her soul itself while she is utterly bound and unable to resist and Lieren would be certainly attacked by Khorne or strong champions of his at the same time, she is to valuable a pawn to simply let go.
Anyhow, as much as I am tempted to have Lieren throw down, it would be pointless, better to find Huli Jing's abandoned body and scrap it for as much parts as possible so Kanzeon can atleast enter the fight with her true body if not allow Long-jia to have a dark age army to match Nitya....oh boy I just remembered, the prophecy of the fox chewing off its leg to spite its hunter, she must be aiming for her old body, that would do the most damage by far.
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>>5037053
>Like poor Cui Fu, my greatest regret is that I was not born decades ago that I could have salvaged you and so many others from the claws of Kong Nue or this path of tyranny. But the man you could have been is dead, and what remains has threatened the Brother of a Giant, wounded his bride and threatened prosperity of all mankind upon shangrala.
>Know that your god is a lazy liar Nitya, for he does not wage war, nor he fights opponents, all he does is sit upon a throne sending his slave to do his bidding. His rage is not of a warrior, but a tantrum of a child that breaks what he cannot have. When the day comes that I will kill you and Avalokiteśvara, I will make sure to undo your souls as well, so you will have for atleast a moment, the freedom you all so much desired.
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I hope we can channel the Emperor in the FINAL BATTLE just to show them the difference in the power of righteousness has compared to their evil patrons.
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>>5037053

> "I will save you from yourself, Avalokiteśvara, and purify your soul. For this life or the next. I bid you farewell. I grow tired of the stench of blood that suffices this wretched place of slaves who imagine themselves as kings"
>>5037078
Not really interested in deleting a daemon possessed soul.
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Actually, a point.

Would it be better to try and kill Nitya here? Before we have to slide through armies to do it?

On one hand it may remove the issue before it becomes terrible, but on the other we cant kill her sister easily.
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>>5037053
> "I will save you from yourself, Avalokiteśvara, and purify your soul. For this life or the next. I bid you farewell. I grow tired of the stench of blood that suffices this wretched place of slaves who imagine themselves as kings"
Oh shit, guessed we banished Kanzeon's sister. That's a big fucking twist.
Well. There's one hope...finding Kuan Im's old body/ship and trying to see if we can revive the least corrupt itteration of her "soul". That's our best bet, I think, should her vessel still be intact enough.
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>>5037081
It's the only way I can think of freeing them.
All I know of possession and corruption is that only the person itself can free themself, you can't un-chaos soneone else
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>>5037082
I would be pretty dang excited if it were possible to free both Avalokiteśvara and Nitya from Khorne's corruption. Nitya, despite killing a shit ton of people, I feel could still be redeemed if that was possible. His story kind of reminds me of Angron in a way. Both were slaves, both wanted freedom for themselves and their kin, and both fell to damnation. It's kinda sad.
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>>5037085
Although if there is someone that could do it, it would be Lieren.
Or the Emperor, but I doubt he would want to help.
>>5037082
I'm worried that fighting him right now is what Khorne wants, to give in to rage in the middle to a place dedicated to him.
Also that Avalokiteśvara would take over if Nitya and be even more insane.
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>>5037087
If you have any ideas on freeing them, now is the time to speak them.

But both know the names of the god of slaughter, both are dripping with his corruption, both have plans to fulfil his desires and become daemon princes.

Which is weird, because that is what Hui ling was, a demon. So she did ascend. The fuck is this bitch on about.

>>5037089
Yeah, her rulership without nitya's restraint is one thing staying my hand.
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>>5037089
That's an interesting way to go about dealing with khone's champion. Lieren has done a whole lot of fighting as of recently. Maybe it's time to change things up a bit. We could do it Undertales style or something

>>5037091
I don't have enough time. I dunno, maybe playing into what empathy they have left? Weakening them verses of the Journey? Talk about the people they used to care deeply for?
Call up dad real quick for suggestions?
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>huli jing was kanzeons sister
Well fuck, not that i hate handing her a through ass whooping, but that gives us more shit to deal with in the future. anyways:
>>5037053
>"You are no different than any other tyrant Nitya Sinha. You too have drank deeply of the poison of confidence and pride. But I have come here in peace, so I shall leave in peace. Your "god" will not receive your skull, for I shall crush it into the mud of the battlefield"

> "I will save you from yourself, Avalokiteśvara, and purify your soul. For this life or the next. I bid you farewell. I grow tired of the stench of blood that suffices this wretched place of slaves who imagine themselves as kings"
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>>5037082
I don't think it's worth the risk.
I think it's safe to assume we would win that fight, but Avalokiteśvara is the more dangerous of the two, killing him would just royally piss her off, and would not get us that much closer to winning any war against the Vishnu.
I guess it potentially make their armies less cohesive since they lost their king, but I imagine Avalokiteśvara would just reveal herself to the Vishnu and take the reigns.

Also worth considering is that we are in the middle of an enemy city filled with ancient, powerful tech that could probably kill us easily. And if Avalokiteśvara loves Nitya a fraction of how much Kanzeon loves Lieren, there is no way she is gonna just let us go after we off him.
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>>5037091
She was aiming for a promotion to a higher station. That's all I'll say
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>>5037053
> "You are no different than any other tyrant Nitya Sinha. You too have drank deeply of the poison of confidence and pride. But I have come here in peace, so I shall leave in peace. Your "god" will not receive your skull, for I shall crush it into the mud of the battlefield."
> "I will save you from yourself, Avalokiteśvara, and purify your soul. For this life or the next. I bid you farewell. I grow tired of the stench of blood that suffices this wretched place of slaves who imagine themselves as kings."
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>>5037100
Greedy bitch.

>>5037094
They have already read the journey. It's like 6 months to 18 months out of date, but he has read it. I've no idea how to bridge that gap of empathy.

>>5037096
Aye. And I can see us using Jinhai as bait then ambushing this khornate son of a bitch.
We just need to find a way to mitigate his overwhelming numbers advantage
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>>5037100
So effectively she wants something more like the favored daemon princes of old. It's one thing to be granted daemonhood, it's another to become the left/right hand of your god.

It's like how Ka'bandha (or however it's spelled) is a great and powerful daemon of Khorne, but is still lower on the totem pole than the ancient and mighty Doombreed (aka Chenghis Khan).
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>>5037100
Probably some form of princehood, maybe even minor godhood like Be'lakor.
>>5037105
Honestly, we need a way to get rid Avalokiteśvara as our first move, she is the real danger here, without her we can just use every dirty trick and tech and just blow up Nitya.
We need to seek out the other sister and research like a madman. Also, I think that Mari is the one making the fog, she is related to the weather in Basque mythology. If we get our hand on the dry ic machine and crank it up on the Vishnu lands, it may make their airforce unusuable.
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>>5037115
I legitimately dont think thicker fog will stop DAOT sensors
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>>5037121
I think the fog it's not just normal fog, it has caused trouble with plenty of sensors so far, so it might have some tech properties to it too.
But if we run some tests and it doesn't work, than we just not use. Having a weather machine could be useful for other things as well, like fixing the ecosystem of the Cui and Vishnu lands.
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>>5037115
Everyone seems to be under the assumption that each ship waifu has some different tech from the others.
Why is that?
Did I miss something?
Because between Kanzeon and Avalokiteśvara, there was no example (that I remember) of tech one has that the other does not. The water crystals and cloning Kanzeon can do too, and the rest Knazeon did not want to introduce for fear or doing the same reckless shit Avalokiteśvara is now happily doing.
Without evidence to the contrary, I see no advantage in finding any more sisters, when we could spend our time better improving our armed forces, researching what Kanzeon already has, or straight up digging Kanzeon out of the ground. THAT would be a real advantage, since having a giant, heavily armed sentient ship would make quick work of any air force the Vishnu have. I assume at least

I would have agreed that taking out Avalokiteśvara would have been the best first move, but that was assuming we could convince her to shut down, or rescue her, or something like that. Now that we know she is straight up hostile, we have no way of easily shutting her down. Hell, taking out the entire Vishnu empire would probably be easier.

I don't see an easy way out of this conflict unfortunately, but with that being said, sabotage would probably work pretty well. Like stealing their airships and stuff like that.
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>>5037053
>Like poor Cui Fu, my greatest regret is that I was not born decades ago that I could have salvaged you and so many others from the claws of Kong Nue or this path of tyranny. But the man you could have been is dead, and what remains has threatened the Brother of a Giant, wounded his bride and threatened prosperity of all mankind upon shangrala.
>Know this then, wicked wife and brutish husband, I am glad you have found love on this life and the only gift your spirits shall receive is to die together.
>"You are no different than any other tyrant Nitya Sinha. You too have drank deeply of the poison of confidence and pride. But I have come here in peace, so I shall leave in peace. Your "god" will not receive your skull, for I shall crush it into the mud of the battlefield"
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>>5037080
That's something I've been wanting to do the most. I'm tempted to write about ho I think it would play out.
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I went back to look at Lierens divinition's and the first is too vague, second and fifth happened, but the remainder seem to need checking sooner rather then later.
>From ice, a harbinger of sickness emerges.
>The fox gnaws its own leg to spite the hunter.
The latter seems to relate to Huli Jings ship body, we don't want her fucking with it, she must have crashed somewhere in Long-Jia and if nothing else she can blow it up and scatter warp stone over the countryside.
The former has pretty bad implications, supposedly the Bask dealt with their nurgle cult but it was long standing, the prediction was speaking of the future, we may have another chaos shipfu.
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>>5037159
What about that guy we saved and brought into our sect? He was taken from an icy place right? what if he is the sickness?
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>>5037053
>>"I will save you from yourself, Avalokiteśvara, and purify your soul. For this life or the next. I bid you farewell. I grow tired of the stench of blood that suffices this wretched place of slaves who imagine themselves as kings"
>>"You are no different than any other tyrant Nitya Sinha. You too have drank deeply of the poison of confidence and pride. But I have come here in peace, so I shall leave in peace. Your "god" will not receive your skull, for I shall crush it into the mud of the battlefield"
So Kuan Im is Huli Jing... hot damn Malal, what a fucking twist.
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>>5037159
Good catch, totally forgot about these divinations.

We definitely need to be careful around Huli Jing's body when we find it, "gnaws its own legs" doesn't sound like it's her blowing it up or something extreme like that, but caution is best regardless.
"Harbinger of sickness" definitely sounds like Nurgle shenanigans, if we find one of Kanzeon's sister near the poles, we will know to be careful. Unless Bask is a particularly snowy country and we already dealt with this problem, but it's better to be paranoid then unprepared.
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>>5037166
>>5037175
Xueqin is the guy Lieren saved in the frozen south near the border of the Bask, standard case of a new psyker losing control of their powers and killing everyone around them.
Dudes as safe as a psyker can be at this point, he is dead set on killing himself if he ever loses control again and as a wanderer he is surrounded by people who would immediately notice if something was wrong.
Malal has also described Bask as cold and frozen multiple other times so I'm certain the problem will originate there.
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Anyone think that Kuan Im might be Huli Jing's true name? Or are we gonna have to ask Kanzeon for her sister's serial number? Knowing it would be cash for dealing with whatever she's planning to do. Maybe we could even team up with Magnus and his hobby of daemonbiology to see if we can cause her to descend back to mortalhood.
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>>5037257
Talking about Kuan Im and names, how are we going to break tge news to our disciple that the goddess she used to workship and her namesake is the same daemon responsable for the corruption of Yan?
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>>5037053
> "I will save you from yourself, Avalokiteśvara, and purify your soul. For this life or the next. I bid you farewell. I grow tired of the stench of blood that suffices this wretched place of slaves who imagine themselves as kings"
I like this one because it involves completely ignoring Nitya, and thus shits all over his destined duel fantasy.
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>>5037299
We can either try to break it gently, never bring it up, wait to see if we can reverse her daemonhood, or engage in some good old-fashioned Imperial revisionism and make it a happy story.
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Can we reset her to factory settings?
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>>5037389
Kek, maybe the shipyard they were built at survived the Age of Strife and we can call tech support.
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>>5037393
We should try turning her on and off first, just in case.
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We don't know how they were made but there was some thing funky going on in it since they have psyker reactive materials and the fact they have souls as well.
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>>5037053
>"How dare you speak his name! Cui Fu was a cruel, close minded brute! But he had compassion! Loyalty! All you have is lies you have spoken so often you now believe them. You will pay for the pain your words have inflicted upon my beloved. And you shall not harm Jinhai!"
> "I will save you from yourself, Avalokiteśvara, and purify your soul. For this life or the next. I bid you farewell. I grow tired of the stench of blood that suffices this wretched place of slaves who imagine themselves as kings"
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>>5037397
My bet is that the ships were an attempt to make men of stone 2.0 to survive the long night and the man of iron rebellion.
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>>5037053
>"You are no different than any other tyrant Nitya Sinha. You too have drank deeply of the poison of confidence and pride. But I have come here in peace, so I shall leave in peace. Your "god" will not receive your skull, for I shall crush it into the mud of the battlefield"
> "I will save you from yourself, Avalokiteśvara, and purify your soul. For this life or the next. I bid you farewell. I grow tired of the stench of blood that suffices this wretched place of slaves who imagine themselves as kings"
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Also how did she learn that we're called a primarch?
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>>5037405
Khorne is in her dreams, she said as much,
He demands our skull.
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>>5037053
>> "I will save you from yourself, Avalokiteśvara, and purify your soul. For this life or the next. I bid you farewell. I grow tired of the stench of blood that suffices this wretched place of slaves who imagine themselves as kings"
Challenging a follower of khorne is bad ju ju. better to just leave.
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Can't we challenge the them to duel? For all the marbles?
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>>5037257
>>5037299
>>5037324
Wasn't there some thing about a Grey Knights book where knowing the true name of a daemon could allow you to either hurt them, bind them, or get them to do whatever you want? I think something like that happened to a Daemon prince-ified Mortarian.
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>>5037417
Angry ship will get angrier and take angry indians, also giving in to fury at the center of Khorneland might make bad shit happen.
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>>5037429
Rightious fury has no place in the heart of the lord of wrath

But yeah, probably demons, if they weren't terrified of us.
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>>5037421
Yes, a grand master carved a dreater daenon true names into his heart and he got weak as fuck
We need Huli Jing's project name, whatever name she was given in her maiden voyage (using the same alphabet just in case) and Kuam Im writen in ancient Yan, one of them should do the trick.
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Ok I have an idea how to purge the chaos from the King...kinda when we come into battle we carry a brand/stamp into the fight and straight up whack him with it so it brands onto him thus banishing the chaos from him forcefully... also its metal as fuck
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>>5037421
One of many of Kaldor Draigo's controversial exploits.
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>>5037434
Kanzeon should know.

Maybe we can use it to bind her/fix her.
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>>5037435
>not using a formation to purge the Chaos from him and the ship.
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Will whacking Khorne with antimagic even work since he's already antimagic?
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>>5037053
>>"How dare you speak his name! Cui Fu was a cruel, close minded brute! But he had compassion! Loyalty! All you have is lies you have spoken so often you now believe them. You will pay for the pain your words have inflicted upon my beloved. And you shall not harm Jinhai!"
and
> "I will save you from yourself, Avalokiteśvara, and purify your soul. For this life or the next. I bid you farewell. I grow tired of the stench of blood that suffices this wretched place of slaves who imagine themselves as kings"
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>>5037441
>>5037452
We still have Hui Jing's/Kuan Im's Tail. Who know what we could do with that. If or when Lieren is strong enough, he could attempt to excorsice the corrupted essence from the tail. It might work, it might not, but if anything she would be too weak to fight back.
In fact, she should be super fucking crippled right now, somewhere in the warp.
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>>5037504
>We still have Hui Jing's/Kuan Im's Tail
We don't. We banished it with the rest of her.
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>>5037135
cannibalizing her sister would probably help her repair herself (distasteful as it might be)
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>>5037505
I thought we still had it in the box along with the six fanged spear, or am I remembering that wrong
If not I think when we have time we should ask our brother and/or the elder to assist us with finding her In the warp, since we heard her before calling our name way back when we were given the option look in the warp for the first time, we should have some sense of her still existing, to either capture her or "save" her from what she has become(no clue how if possible at all), for our beloved mostly,and it could help us save others who renounce the chaos gods
>>5037506
Not shure our beloved would like the idea of "consuming" the remains of her sister's she clearly still cares a great deal for even considering what just transpired with her eldest sister
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>>5037505
Fuck you're right. Now I remember. We used that tail to set her on fire. Dammit.

>>5037592
If we do still have a bit of Kanzeons sister that would be pretty convenient. All I remember is binding one or two demon things in boxes, one of which belonging to that champion of Nurgle.
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>>5037053
>"You are no different than any other tyrant Nitya Sinha. You too have drank deeply of the poison of confidence and pride. But I have come here in peace, so I shall leave in peace. Your "god" will not receive your skull, for I shall crush it into the mud of the battlefield"
> "I will save you from yourself, Avalokiteśvara, and purify your soul. For this life or the next. I bid you farewell. I grow tired of the stench of blood that suffices this wretched place of slaves who imagine themselves as kings"
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>>5037608
well there is the six fanged spear(/light cannon), perhaps it can be used to track down the ship. It s made or was in it after all, so Kanzeon and us could see if it s possible to find it with it. Maybe a signal can be created so we can move towards it.
though i am not sure we have time with the war. Somehow we need to take down the couple in front of us at the same time, it will not be easy. Perhaps we can count on their eagerness to become gods ? They would need no doubt a great sacrifice, for do a great massacre to fuel their ascension.
There is still the matter of the technology they wield, but if we could distract them, maybe they will not use their full arsenal in fear to not capture enough people for their sacrifice. If that could be even a chance, we should ensure they follow it.
If they are distracted in making buildings for their ascension and gathering sacrifices (think of them like Kyras ones, Kyras from DoW games), instead of fighting the war fully we might have a chance.
We where able to trick them just now, maybe we can do it again ?
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>>5037608
>one of which belonging to that champion of Nurgle.
Both belonged to the Keeper of Rust. The skull and scythe.
>>5037622
>well there is the six fanged spear(/light cannon), perhaps it can be used to track down the ship. It s made or was in it after all, so Kanzeon and us could see if it s possible to find it with it. Maybe a signal can be created so we can move towards it.
Just get the Eldar to find it.
>though i am not sure we have time with the war. Somehow we need to take down the couple in front of us at the same time, it will not be easy. Perhaps we can count on their eagerness to become gods ? They would need no doubt a great sacrifice, for do a great massacre to fuel their ascension.
Khornate ascension is a bit different. Khorne demands blood and skulls and doesn't care about their source. They need mass slaughter before they can ascend or Lieren's head.
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>>5037755
>Khornate ascension is a bit different. Khorne demands blood and skulls and doesn't care about their source. They need mass slaughter before they can ascend or Lieren's head.
Seems to me like we'll need to take a leaf out of Perty's book and refuse to let them enter melee range. Bonus points if we only use ranged weapons that don't shed blood. Needle pistols, something that cauterizes wounds like hotshot las or volkite, all that jazz.
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Step 1: draw out army of the enemy
Step 2: Bring bomb into the now emptied enemy capital
Step 3: blow the fucking place while we draw agro

Alternative: We figure out a way to jam the connection to the ship AI
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>>5037758
How delightfully teasing.

But really, we need shit which can fell hoards on a mass scale. Like water generating stones unleashed in the center of their armies.
Stuff to fell armies, so we can gain the ground without being overwhelmed.
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>>5037825
It's gonna be important to remember that we don't just have to stop Nitya and his deranged shipfu; we have to crush their generals and lieutenants, destroy their advanced tech and break their nigh-endless clone army...All while trying to keep casualties on our side to a minimum.

We DEFINITELY need to hold a council with Jinhai, the Four Kings of War, Gouzhi, the Vishnu chiefs, Dandan and Shan, etc. and just lay (almost) everything on the table. They have to know exactly what is coming if they're going to survive.
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>>5037837
>>5037825
>>5037775
Has the idea of channeling the Emperor crossed your minds?
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>>5037839
No anon, channeling he emperor in a bubble of about 50 feet has not crossed my mind as a way to defeat uncountable waves of clone soldiers, DAOT war technology, an empire of khornate and defend our kingdom.

Because why the fuck would it? Are we channeling plot armour and bad writing now.
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>>5037837
Don't forget the Elazar Burueliza and the Basque and Queen Aiza of the Shunni. Three kingdoms united against the fourth before pushing out into the rest of the world.
>>5037839
It has. I think it's to powerful an ability to be used without some major drawback. Maybe it'll knock us out for a while. Seeing him for the first time did it for a week, channeling his power could do it for a year, if we're capable of doing that at all. I can speculate about a whole slew of drawbacks, none of which I'd want to risk. Rather channel Dong to try to sever or weaken their connection to Khorne.
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>>5037839
>bro what if we tried to instawin again, it’ll work this time bro I swear
you people are so goddamn tiresome
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>>5037775
>>5037842
From what I understand, we have a grace period of about maybe a couple of weeks at best. I think the best thing we can do with our time is ask Kanzeon to help produce a lot, and I mean A LOT of reversed engineered Deldar technology. Instead of maiming and killing the opposition, we'll field stun/knock out traps and extreme ranged weapons, adding on to that one anon's suggestion. Death and sacrifices seems to empower their dark gods, so what better ways to cuck them than by not killing anyone?

While Kanzeon is busy with ramping up productions, we can make haste in finding the body (or what remains or it) of Kain I'm and the Bask sister. If the latter is still kicking, I think we would have the upper hand to victory.

Me thinks two A.I. sisters have enough computational power to hack and override the clone army and other tech Avalokiteśvara and Nitya plan to field, like what that other other anon suggested too. Bonus points if we find anything helpful of what remains of Kuan Im.

Hmmmm. So on top of the stun weapon production and finding the sisters, we should also probably try to dig up Kanzeons body. We got the whole of the Fog psyker sect and some eldar that are willing to help. Maybe we could divide everyone into digging up all three bodies. Some aldari and psykers to dig up Kanzeon and Kuan I'm, while Lieren gets a crash course on how to dig better by his space elf friends.
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>>5037846
>>5037839
Not a big fan of easy big buttons, plus the Emperor is probably busy with something more important.
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>>5037842
>Because why the fuck would it?
I don't know, why would channeling the oldest living human expert on DAOT tech and Warp shit and has comprehensive knowledge on combat and war help us? It's a complete mystery.
>>5037846
>I think it's to powerful an ability to be used without some major drawback. Maybe it'll knock us out for a while.
More likely we can only draw upon a fraction of it (remember that other people channel Lieren all the time and his full power would kill them) and we are vastly stronger since overcoming the tribulation.
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>>5037851
Digging her up. Yes.

We want the other sisters so we can have their production capacity also. Be wary of Kham Im since her gnawing her own leg may mean booby trapping her gear.

Still, if we can focus the Khronate on our lands rather than him throwing a three pronged assault, we can level the playing field with numbers.

Deldar gear, I think we need a lot of dark light or AOE bombings, even if this goes against our desire to preserve nature.
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>>5037857
It Is a complete mystery.

None of what you have stated helps the slightest in coming up with a single chaos damned idea of how to stop the Vishnu assault.
And all that you are asking for is equally able to be gained by bringing up space dad over the warp. Which is frankly a waste of a move, since anything he tells us doesnt translate to our ability to enact.

It's like resurrecting hannibal and expecting him to beat the rest of the world by giving him France to work with. Sweet hell.
Channeling him doesnt aid us in beating them, it barely helps with technology, and moreover we (liren) are already an immensely capable strategist.

So please, tell me, how does this action help us kill a zerg rush of the Vishny
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>>5037854
>Not a big fan of easy big buttons
I don't like it either, I just said the thought had occurred to me as well.
>plus the Emperor is probably busy with something more important.
This is true too. Wonder if he's found Horus yet...
>>5037857
>remember that other people channel Lieren all the time and his full power would kill them
Don't we have to consciously imbue people with our power? I don't think the Golden Sea Fills Many Vessels or whatever it's called is passive.
>we are vastly stronger since overcoming the tribulation.
While this is true, he's also the Emperor. His power is on a different scale than that of his sons. Horus, with the blessings of all 4 gods and a dip in the cosmic hot tub on Molech, only lasted against him for as long as he did because was holding back out of lingering love. I don't think overcoming the tribulation is going to make much difference.
>>5037858
>Deldar gear, I think we need a lot of dark light or AOE bombings, even if this goes against our desire to preserve nature.
Psyk-Out grenades might be good to get the best of both worlds.
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>>5037851
I would go for the Shuni sister first, we already know where the body should be.
But searching for Mari is a good idea if we try to gamble on either her being alive, or the source of the fog.
Kuam Im is a bit more difficult, since although we know she is Huli Jing, we still don't know where to search, and we would need to be careful just in case it's corrupted.
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>>5037858
>Be wary of Kham Im since her gnawing her own leg may mean booby trapping her gear.
I thought that phrase was because she cut her own consciousness away from her true metal body or something.
I mean like so long as we prevent blood from literally shedding and killing people, even if it's the enemy, it's a win win for us.

>even if this goes against our desire to preserve nature.
Bro the book said: "lmao cut down one tree plant two more homie."

>>5037863
>Psyk-Out grenades might be good to get the best of both worlds.
never heard of em. What do they do? Oh! Shit I just remembered, we gotta do something about those evil crystal obelisks with the markings and stuff. The ones we saw on our way here. They might be a part of a ritual or some such.

>>5037870
Oh there was a total of five sister A.I.'s on this planet, least the ones we're aware of? Alright sure. Maybe 1 group digs up Kanzeon, another finds and digs up the Shuni sister, and Lieren and those with him can dig up either Mari or Kuam Im.
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>>5037879
>Cut down one tree, plant too

That doesnt really work when the stuff we are discussing can irreparably doom the enviroment. We are discussing pocket nukes as hand guns here.

Psyck out grenades, if I remember, make psychic powers fail and hurt psykers. But I think they are made from the bone ash of the emperor and moreover, only affect psykers. Which the khornate dont have.

Might work on demons though.
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Have any of you considered getting knowledge on how to make space marines from dear dad?
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>>5037890
Um. I.....
FUCK!!!!
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>>5037890
that not a terrible idea, with kenzeons facilities we may not be able to make fully fledged astartres but augmented humans could be something for our more devoted comrades.
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>>5037893
If your enemy has super human combatants and advanced technology the answer is to make your own if you can. And space marines unlike 40k aren’t as restricted and don’t take as long to train in 30k
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>>5037894
Considering the state of kazeon’s medical tech I’m pretty sure she can make space marines if she knows how
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>>5037894
>>5037896
>>5037898
So the to do list before the big fight:
>dig out Kanzeon
>produce nonlethal weapons
>maybe dig out a sister or two
>hack opposing cyber army
>make our own space marines
>hand holding with the wife
am I missing something?
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>>5037901
They are clone armies, not robot armies.

And it's not "none lethal weapons" it's just "disabling weapons"
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>>5037903
Maybe the armors, weapons, and vehicles the clones use can be hacked. Implants too if they have those.
Right, disabling weapons, got it. So long as we don't fuel Khone with bloodshed and killing, and cheeky cunt.

So easy counter for the Khornate berserkers: landmines and Lasguns right? I think we started producing laser weapons a while ago.
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We should probably have lieren personally train any space marines we make since he’s capable of training normal humans to the level of eldar aspect warriors.
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>>5037863
>Don't we have to consciously imbue people with our power?
The connection goes both ways since that's a part how our power works. Malal has said that Lieren's followers can unconciously draw upon him.
I think Cao Yunru did it on his quest to save the city and multiple people before the assault on the Old Fox were channeling Lieren.
>I don't think the Golden Sea Fills Many Vessels or whatever it's called is passive.
That is indeed an active power but Lieren is sort of like a minor divinity at this point. Anyone that aligns to his desires and beliefs can channel him.
>>5037859
One of the Emperor's many feats that got the Martians on board was healing a fucking titan with psyker powers so he has a mastery of machine based powers. He also has an anti-daemon aura and glamour that inspires awe in those who see him. He also should be knowledgable enough to teach us how to make counters to anything they have.
>>5037854
It's not a big win button because Lieren is limited in what he can channel and requires no attention from the target being channeled beyond them getting visions of what we are doing. People forget we've channeled people who were in the middle of combat.
>>5037901
>>5037905
We have stun whips from the Dark Eldar. If you want to disable tech weapons use EMPs (if they lack shielding), machine focused powers, or engineering flaws.
>>5037903
The clones are controlled through implants though. Wait what if we created a Journey based viral code in the format of code poetry?
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>>5037919
the technology in the Stun whips could probably be put into penetrating range weaponry.

>spam the Journey through codes
Add it to the list. Sounds like a good way to counter corrupted machine spirits and A.I.s.

Hmmmm. Do you guys think Lieren would hold some empathy to some "machine spirits" in the imperium? They're essentially lobotomized A.I.s. i think.
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>>5037919
We should save chanelling emps for when we try to break in Avalokiteśvara and shut down her core, because that's what is going to be the hard part of the Vishnu fight.
Well, that and trying to keep casularies to a minimum, if they start deploying WND everywhere if they start to lose it's goung to be a bloodbath.
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>>5037919
>Wait what if we created a Journey based viral code in the format of code poetry?
Are you seriously suggesting that we create a virus that infects the host with enlightenment?
That sounds rad as fuck. Can we call it Zenyatta or something?
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>>5037941
>Are you seriously suggesting that we create a virus that infects the host with enlightenment?
Now I'm imagining a exterminatus style cyclonic torpedo but instead of an endless sweeping fireball consuming a planet, its enlightenment
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>>5037889
>But I think they are made from the bone ash of the emperor and moreover
It's weird. Lore states that the dust that accumulates on the Emperor and the throne are the active particle in such weapons, but the Sisters of Silence use them during the Crusade before he's interned there.
>Psyck out grenades, if I remember, make psychic powers fail and hurt psykers. But I think they are made from the bone ash of the emperor and moreover, only affect psykers. Which the khornate dont have.
>Against psychic creatures such as daemons and psykers, however, their effects are devastating.
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Psyk-out
It also compares them to psycannon bolts, which fuck up possessed as well. And Khornate psykers are a weird topic. They exist in lore, but are really rare and typically only use telekinesis, presumably because it's the has the potential for the most spilt blood.
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>>5037990
Khornite psykers can exist. What doesn't exist is Khornite sorcerers cause Khorne views sorcery as stepping on the power of the gods. And a ton of chaos psykers are also sorcerers
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Calling the vote now.

"Like poor Cui Fu, my greatest regret is that I was not born decades ago...": 3

"Know this then, wicked wife and brutish husband, I am glad you have found love on this life and the only gift your spirits shall receive is to die together.":2

"You are no different than any other tyrant Nitya Sinha. You too have drank deeply of the poison of confidence and pride...":10

"I will save you from yourself, Avalokiteśvara, and purify your soul...":12

"Know that your god is a lazy liar Nitya, for he does not wage war, nor he fights opponents, all he does is sit upon a throne sending his slave to do his bidding...":1

"How dare you speak his name! Cui Fu was a cruel, close minded brute! But he had compassion! Loyalty!...":2

Total botes: 18

So telling Nitya Sinha he isn't special and saying you will save Avalokiteśvara from herself and leaving wins.

Writing now

>>5037948
>I am bringing prosperity to this location
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>>5038021
You are being made prosperous. Do not try to resist.
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>>5038033
I hope we get those battle automata that the iron warriors have so we can program them to say that as they brutalize people
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Smother the burning rage Kanzeon's tears have stoked within your heart, you hammer your anger, forging it into a far sharper and colder blade than before. Passion wrought and hardened by conviction.

"You are no different than any other Tyrant, Nitya Sinha" You state scathingly, eyes narrowed like a viper's as the words pass by your lips, almost seeming to chill them as they fly away upon the air "You to have drank deeply of the poison of confidence and pride"

The air instantly grows heavier, weighed down by the Butcher King's rage at being made to face the truth of himself, and the hypocrisies he's hidden behind what passes for a jovial smile upon his ruined features. The stench of spilt blood and carcasses grows stronger as it is spiced with the killing intent of one of Kong Nue's "Champions". His eyes blacken, the lights behind them growing dim as a rage far blacker than any you have yet met or experienced personally radiates from the King of King's, like the current of a vast lake pushing against the shore. He clenches his jaw, whirling fangs cutting into both flesh and steel as he glares at you blinded by the fury you knew to infect every atom of his being.

Smiling mirthfully, you place a hand before you lips, mocking him by adopting the mannerisms of a lady of noble birth as you laugh at the sheer impotence of his rage.

"But I have come here in peace, so I shall leave in peace" You say behind of veil of geniality waving your hand dismissively as you use the other to hold Kanzeon to your breast, to keep her from the two who would harm her with their words in the pursuit of her precious tears.

Smirking, you pause to glance at the fuming Nitya Sinha, eyes still narrowed to predatory slits. Almost instinctively, a oath of the darkest of natures dances across your tongue, like the first hail of winter.

"Your "god" will not receive your skull, for I shall crush it beneath my heel into the mud of the battlefield" You cheerily proclaim, smirk widening to a grin almost as terrible as the butcher king's own.

Impressively, Nitya Sinha manages to reclaim his mask of cordiality and mirth, and retreats behind its facade. He answers your mocking laughter, with a snarling burst of his own.

"Oh noble brother in law, I shall personally present that virtuous head of yours to my lord, so those golden eyes of your mays forever witness what I shall make of all your works" He laughs, as if sharing an old joke he heard with a close friend, clapping his hands together before wringing them "There is nothing left to be said between us two giants, all that remains is to cross swords and see who shall be made a liar, no?"

Ignoring the butcher king's bold proclamation completely, you turn your focus to the intellegence hidden behind his own in the glint of his cybernetic eyes. And swear another oath to your enemies, with cold words masked by the sweetness of honey.

"I will save you from yourself Avalokiteśvara, and purify your soul" You say gently,
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>>5038101

running a hand through Kanzeon's hair as her glare joins your own, her fierceness returning as she buries her sorrow to face her traitorous sister once more "In this life or the next"

"You dare to threaten me in such a manner? The last men to swear as such were butchered by their young at my command. You will fail as they did, you overconfident worm! You smug slug! You willfully blind philosopher!" Avalokiteśvara hisses, clearly more enraged by this promise than your earlier trick "Your blood will be shed like any other!"

"It won't be, you can't even act beyond pulling your husbands leash. You have no idea the effectiveness of my darling's lethal competency! I'll punish you, as is an older sister's duty and show you the error of your ways before you're remade innocent once more" Kanzeon says tenderly though she delivers far more chilling of a threat than you ever could hope to.

A cacophony of harsh, ear defiling static issues forth from Nitya Sinha, as Kanzeon's wayward sister loses the ability to articulate her words in face of the rising storm of anger swelling from within her mechanical hunt to flood and wash away every thought in her murderously inclined mind. Nitya Sinha grinds his teeth together, spitting sparks as he become possessed by the same protective, husbandly fury that had taken hold of your moments ago.

Flippantly waving your hand, you turn and lead Kanzeon away from the both of them, no longer honoring either killer with your gaze or attention.

"I bid you both farewell" You say, dully ending the meeting between giants and living ships with a flick of your wrist and click of your tongue "I grow tired of the stench of blood that suffices this wretched place of slaves who imagine themselves as kings"

Nitya Sinha remains silent as his wife rages, before a chilling laugh escapes his augmented throat. More murderous than any swinging blade, more dangerous than any poison or technique. Like the silence before an artillery barrage, or the subtle shifting of the atmosphere that proceeds a lance of dark light. It is the laughter of a devil, rather than a man.

"I shall enjoy taking your head, hunter, if only to silence that sharp tongue of yours" He says, completely abandoning his mask of geniality and warmth "Until our blades cross, I shall dream of seeing the terror of death filling those golden pools set in your skull's sockets"

"Learn to read, you'll know that'll never happen if you study my scholar's works, you ignorant ass" Kanzeon huffs dismissively "Enjoying wallowing in your own meaningless rage, you degenerate example of humanities' worst traits"

And with that, you leave the city of murderers and its master, seething in the oaths they have sworn to stay their hand from striking you.

You do not linger in the Vishnu Lands, and as soon as you and Kanzeon regroup with the Aeldari, you travel for the Xue border to leave its horrors behind in the mists at your back. The Journey back home is quiet,
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>>5038102

as Kanzeon stews in the unwelcomed knowledge her sister forced upon her concerning her sister Kuan Im's Fate and darkest of treachery, and the Aeldari know there is nothing to be said. After all, this venture was a complete failure by no fault of their divinations or your planning. Avalokiteśvara had already fallen and all searching for her has brought about was beholding the face of a true Ogre and the tears of your beloved. The information you've gained of their infrastructure, technology and Nitya Sinha's character are valuable

But they are not what you came to this bloodsoaked land in search of. If not to return Kanzeon's sister to her, you at least wished to bring her a sense of closure in learning their fate. You had not foreseen that such knowledge would be so terrible. However it was sadly not so unimaginable that such noble beings could fall so far.

Huli Jing herself proved that even the most virtuous of lines can be lowered to nothing more than a wretched family of sinful monstrosities. Chaos, Discord, Anarchy. Whatever name you know it by, taints and corrupts all it touches to the core. A rot of the mind and soul. A disease. A cancer. A curse.

All this travel has achieved, was a renewing of contempt and hatred. A refining of loathing.

War was upon the horizon and you knew it would be the most terrible that Shangrala has seen. But, you were too learned of Humanities past and present to believe it to be the worst that has ever been waged. And from the stories and lessons of Carys, you know it is but a scuffle compared to the truly ancient wars carried out by the elder races.

It was a storm to be weathered and overcome. Nothing more. And should The Vishnu be subjugated, it will herald the end of Shangrala's eons long dark age. Marking the end of a truly difficult birth, and hopefully signalling the end of hell's manipulations and interference of the lives of her fair people.

But what a trial it will be. A labor like any other you have faced before.

What do you do, Lieren?

>Warn the kingdom of the weapons Nitya Sinha Wields. Council Jinhai into expanding army recruitment efforts and permitting the production of weaponry that could challenge the Vishnu Hordes

>Spend the majority of your remaining wealth to funnel rare materials to Kanzeon's forges, working with the Aeldari and Wanderers in the fog to at last free her from her prison.

>Travel to the Shuni lands in search of Al-Uzza and to meditate where the veil between the worlds is at its thinnest. Knowledge is power, as your Brother Magnus says.

>Visit the Bask lands, on a diplomatic mission with Yin Lei to ask for their support in the war to come and to search for Mari amidst its frost covered peaks

>Write in
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>>5038103
>>Warn the kingdom of the weapons Nitya Sinha Wields. Council Jinhai into expanding army recruitment efforts and permitting the production of weaponry that could challenge the Vishnu Hordes
>>Visit the Bask lands, on a diplomatic mission with Yin Lei to ask for their support in the war to come and to search for Mari amidst its frost covered peaks
You have no idea how tempting it is to vote for all of these, boss.
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>>5038103
>Warn the kingdom.
>Free kanzeon
>Search for ul-Azzah


Right, so I'm going to talk about what WE need to do. We need to personally work to Free Kanzeon's body then find her sister and warn Jinhai.


JINHAI needs to approach Bask for aid, and kanzeons facilities need to have a constant flow of materials to help produce the weapons, supported by the rest of the kingdom.

The issue is that we should have all of the options chosen, but to prevent ineffectiveness due to spreading ourself, shift the labour to others while we do other crap.

Warning Jinhai and giving him schematics doesnt take long. It will also be only slightly less effective than us there to overlook it all.
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>>5038103
>>Warn the kingdom of the weapons Nitya Sinha Wields. Council Jinhai into expanding army recruitment efforts and permitting the production of weaponry that could challenge the Vishnu Hordes
>Spend the majority of your remaining wealth to funnel rare materials to Kanzeon's forges, working with the Aeldari and Wanderers in the fog to at last free her from her prison.
>Travel to the Shuni lands in search of Al-Uzza and to meditate where the veil between the worlds is at its thinnest. Knowledge is power, as your Brother Magnus says.

Is the effectiveness of every vote decreased every time if we choose everything?
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>>5038113
Only these two we can't afford to spread ourselves thin
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>>5038119
Yes.

So we need to pick what requires our attention and what we delicate.
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>>5038119
Yes, has been stated the more options we vote fort he effectiveness fades. So never pick more than two
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>>5038121
Jinhai has able diplomats. Use the spider for securing Bask's aid. It doesnt need our attentions.

We know where the Shunii sister is, is picking her up is a stitch.
Freeing Kanzeon gives us some actual air power.
And the weapons are utterly vital.
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Also, did you guys see there's another primarch quest now? It seems that they've named their 2nd Primarch in honor of Terry Davis.
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>>5038103

>Warn the kingdom of the weapons Nitya Sinha Wields. Council Jinhai into expanding army recruitment efforts and permitting the production of weaponry that could challenge the Vishnu Hordes

>Have the Aeldari and Wanderers in the fot aid her in freeing the prison.

>We personally travel to find Mari, While the Black window works on Yin Lei for the war.

If this works and doesn't weaken everything Malal. We have people now so we can kinda/sorta delegate.

IF it weakens it still then uh, Just this

>Warn the kingdom of the weapons Nitya Sinha Wields. Council Jinhai into expanding army recruitment efforts and permitting the production of weaponry that could challenge the Vishnu Hordes
>Spend the majority of your remaining wealth to funnel rare materials to Kanzeon's forges, working with the Aeldari and Wanderers in the fog to at last free her from her prison.
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>>5038103
>Warn the kingdom of the weapons Nitya Sinha Wields. Council Jinhai into expanding army recruitment efforts and permitting the production of weaponry that could challenge the Vishnu Hordes
>Spend the majority of your remaining wealth to funnel rare materials to Kanzeon's forges, working with the Aeldari and Wanderers in the fog to at last free her from her prison.
I'm not sure why we would look for Kanzeon's sisters this late in the game. What could they possibly offer us that Kanzeon cannot? There has been no example that I remember of tech Avalokiteśvara had that Kanzeon did not, so I imagine the other sisters will not either. What else are they supposed to give? Moral support?
Unless I'm missing something obvious, any effort we spend looking for the sisters would be better spent on other stuff.
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>>5038132
Kanzeon is a factory unto herself.
So are her sisters.
Two fabricator factories to produce weapons are better than one
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>>5038103
>Warn the kingdom of the weapons Nitya Sinha Wields. Council Jinhai into expanding army recruitment efforts and permitting the production of weaponry that could challenge the Vishnu Hordes
>Spend the majority of your remaining wealth to funnel rare materials to Kanzeon's forges, working with the Aeldari and Wanderers in the fog to at last free her from her prison.
>>5038134
Knowing what can kill one.
Also Lieren or Kanzeon theorized that it was one of her sister that was behind the fog, that is a mark of a tech she doesn't have for example.
Not only that, but pure knowledge, they or their passangers may have new applications of the technology that we didn't think of for example, or they might have developed something during their travel.
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And i also think we can make a genuine case for feeding Kanzeon to be in the public good, so possibly requisition materials from the kingdom for the war effort.
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>>5038103
>Warn the kingdom of the weapons Nitya Sinha Wields. Council Jinhai into expanding army recruitment efforts and permitting the production of weaponry that could challenge the Vishnu Hordes
Setting up production should be quick enough.
>Request assistance and advice from the Emperor himself
Ideally we'll get info on how to make power armor and Space Marines to better the survival of our men.
>Travel to the Shuni lands in search of Al-Uzza and to meditate where the veil between the worlds is at its thinnest. Knowledge is power, as your Brother Magnus says.
This should be quick because of the railroad.
>>5038134
Well how did Kuan Im and Avalokiteśvara corrupted anon? The bigger benefit is insuring Chaos doesn't touch them and as the above anon said two ships are better than one.
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>>5038141
That is fair.
Though I will point out that this is only an advantage if we have more resources than Kanzeon can mass produce with. If we don't, then it would still be rather pointless cause we could just feed it all to Kanzeon.
>>5038144
>Knowing what can kill one.
Not sure what your point is. Pretty sure Kanzeon would love to enlighten us on this topic if we asked.
The rest is fair, but it is essentially a mystery box. Could be useless, or very useful. Not sure I wanna gamble myself, but I can see the interest behind it now at least.
>>5038152
I believe the Giant Fuckoff Khornate empire is more pressing in terms of keeping corruption at bay. And an extra ship doesn't help if its also buried deep underground.
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>>5038155
>And an extra ship doesn't help if its also buried deep underground.
Most production ability helps a lot. Also I have a bet going that Mari is going to be corrupted soon. Hence the
>From ice, a harbinger of sickness emerges
That's likely to kill millions if not dealt with quickly.
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>>5038155
You make a good point about surplus resources, but I counter with the fact that we could have resource points in both LongJia provinces.

Meaning that both shunni and Longjia lands proper can keep producing the weapons without an overextended supply line.
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>>5038179
I will concede this point, it would be silly to assume there is no surplus with both Long-Jia and the Shuni lands supplying us. Had not considered that.
...I don't think I will change my vote though, I hesitate to split it too many ways, and warning Jinhai & digging Kanzeon out are too important In my opinion.
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>>5038103
>>Spend the majority of your remaining wealth to funnel rare materials to Kanzeon's forges, working with the Aeldari and Wanderers in the fog to at last free her from her prison.
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>>5038103
>Warn the kingdom of the weapons Nitya Sinha Wields. Council Jinhai into expanding army recruitment efforts and permitting the production of weaponry that could challenge the Vishnu Hordes
>Spend the majority of your remaining wealth to funnel rare materials to Kanzeon's forges, working with the Aeldari and Wanderers in the fog to at last free her from her prison.
>Search for the former ship body of Huli Jing, address the last threat she may pose, and safely salvage what you can from the remains for the war effort.
If we wanted to look for the sisters for reasons of safety or practicality, we should have voted for that rather then search for Nitya's wife, we are essentially out of time.
We have a prophecy that suggests Huli Jing will strike at us one last time out of spite and I honestly doubt she would have traveled far from her former body before setting up shop in Long-Jia.
Coupled with the prophecy implying she has a decent avenue of action, her body must be inside or very near the borders of Long-Jia.
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>"Learn to read, you'll know that'll never happen if you study my scholar's works, you ignorant ass" Kanzeon huffs dismissively "Enjoying wallowing in your own meaningless rage, you degenerate example of humanities' worst traits"

This insult could be taken much further. Avalokiteśvara hates humans for hurting her and would probably explode if we explicitly stated how trash she was for acting like her former captors.
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>Travel to the Shuni lands in search of Al-Uzza and to meditate where the veil between the worlds is at its thinnest. Knowledge is power, as your Brother Magnus says

If anything can bring Kanzeon closure, the fate of her other sister is most definitely it. Also 2 ships can do some crazy things.
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>>5038199
We have more important things than our wifes closure to deal with anon.

I'd recommend supporting at least one other hot button topic.
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>>5038103
>Warn the kingdom of the weapons Nitya Sinha Wields. Council Jinhai into expanding army recruitment efforts and permitting the production of weaponry that could challenge the Vishnu Hordes
>Spend the majority of your remaining wealth to funnel rare materials to Kanzeon's forges, working with the Aeldari and Wanderers in the fog to at last free her from her prison.

Since military production is going, it would be wise to make a new armor and spear for Jinhai, he isn t just the ruler but the highest military commander, and a great hero. Mines and industry are working and since is ×1 + ×1 order, i don think it needs to be a write in where Lieren and Kanzeon dedicate their full attention. Is mostly for ensure he is well armored and can fight if needed.

>>5038134
>. What else are they supposed to give? Moral support?

Well they can make a lot of things like Kanzeon, so that helps a lot. But if they aren't alive all those machines inside them and more can be still very useful.
In regard to moral support ........ well honestly that would be also useful is not actually a dumb thing. Beside giving Kanzeon and Lieren one more person to hold dear and that can talk/help them, will be good.
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>>5038103
>Visit the Bask lands, on a diplomatic mission with Yin Lei to ask for their support in the war to come and to search for Mari amidst its frost covered peaks


>Warn the kingdom of the weapons Nitya Sinha Wields. Council Jinhai into expanding army recruitment efforts and permitting the production of weaponry that could challenge the Vishnu Hordes
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>>5038144
Adding a
>Visit the Bask lands, on a diplomatic mission with Yin Lei to ask for their support in the war to come and to search for Mari amidst its frost covered peaks
To my vote, because I realized we can delegate the excavation and army refitting to others while we search for Mari.
Also to deal with the prophecy, if only for peace of mind.
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>>5038103
for some reason 4chan keeps messing with my votes
adding
>Spend the majority of your remaining wealth to funnel rare materials to Kanzeon's forges, working with the Aeldari and Wanderers in the fog to at last free her from her prison.
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>>5038209
>>5038144
supporting this.
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>>5038103
>Warn the kingdom of the weapons Nitya Sinha Wields. Council Jinhai into expanding army recruitment efforts and permitting the production of weaponry that could challenge the Vishnu Hordes
>Spend the majority of your remaining wealth to funnel rare materials to Kanzeon's forges, working with the Aeldari and Wanderers in the fog to at last free her from her prison.
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i can't wait for the virgin Nitya Sinha vs chad Lieren meme to appear
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>>5038247
Well, we already have a chad Lieren, although it's an old one.
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>>5038202
These ships are the entire reason this world almost fell to chaos. We need to know ASAP.
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Wait isn't splitting our limited material resources between two resource intensive projects just going to slow both down?
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>>5038133
support
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>>5038129
I named him.
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>>5038335
One is Lieren's personal wealth, and the other is the Kingdom's. I would be more worried that we would be splitting Kanzeon's forge into two different tasks at the same time, but we don't know how much she can produce at an industrial level.
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>>5038499
You did well
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>>5038103
> Warn the kingdom of the weapons Nitya Sinha Wields. Council Jinhai into expanding army recruitment efforts and permitting the production of weaponry that could challenge the Vishnu Hordes.
> Spend the majority of your remaining wealth to funnel rare materials to Kanzeon's forges, working with the Aeldari and Wanderers in the fog to at last free her from her prison.
I think we should hold off on the search for Kanzeon's other sisters until the war is won; we can't risk that Nitya might assault their positions to take them captive, while freeing Kanzeon herself can allow her to protect both herself and the kingdom. If Mari and Al-Uzza still 'live', anonymity and isolation serve as their best defense.
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But doesnt Khorne sister already know their locations?
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>>5038714
Most likely.
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>>5038714
>>5038733
I'd argue she doesn't; if she did, I don't think she could have stopped herself from gloating to make Kanzeon even more miserable.
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>>5038794 Prhaps they[re still untouched? Ergo nothing to gloat with?
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Calling the vote now.

Warn the kingdom of the weapons Nitya Sinha Wields. Council Jinhai into expanding army recruitment efforts and permitting the production of weaponry that could challenge the Vishnu Hordes:14

Visit the Bask lands, on a diplomatic mission with Yin Lei to ask for their support in the war to come and to search for Mari amidst its frost covered peaks:6
- Advise Qian Xia to work with Yin Lei:2

Spend the majority of your remaining wealth to funnel rare materials to Kanzeon's forges, working with the Aeldari and Wanderers in the fog to at last free her from her prison.:13
-Leave to work solely to the wanderers in the fog/ Aeldari: 2

Travel to the Shuni lands in search of Al-Uzza and to meditate where the veil between the worlds is at its thinnest. Knowledge is power, as your Brother Magnus says.: 4

Request assistance and advice from the Emperor himself:1

Search for the former ship body of Huli Jing, address the last threat she may pose, and safely salvage what you can from the remains for the war effort.:1

Total votes: 16

So Lieren will warn the kingdom and advice jinhai to expand the imperial army and permit the production of weapons that could challenge the Vishnu hordes, and then spend the majority of his remaining accured wealth to funnel rare materials to Kanzeon's forges, working with The wanderers in the fog sect and the Aeldari to free her from her prison

Writing now
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It is said that there is no force more potent or terrible than a mother or father protecting their children. It was an instinctual, emotional drive that lay dormant in the hearts of civilized men and wild beasts alike. When rouse from its slumber, it would empower and drive even the meekest of souls to challenge the most skilled of warriors, face their own demise and meet its glare, and do what they had once believed unthinkable or impossible to defend their blood. Long-Jia Jinhai was no different, despite his at times peculiar and air headed nature. He and the love of his life had brought three beautiful babes into a world both prosperous and peaceful, and silently at night he would pray that they would never know anything but the serene era of their birth. But, Jinhai was no fool and could separate his day dreamt fantasies and wild wishes from reality, even if the gap between the two had been shortened by the works of wise and virtuous men.

A few years before, before the Heavenly kingdom of Long-Jia could be anything but a wayward dream, before Lieren, before the rebellion, before the grand adventures he shared with his golden eyed master and brother, if anyone had marched into the court of a noble family yet alone the imperial court itself and spoke of technologies that could shatter reality itself and bleed it dry through the wounds they made, they would have been laughed from the city if they were not executed by the power mad liege they came to warn of the impending catastrophe they had personally witnessed. But, such days have long since passed and remaining ignorant in the name of bliss was a fool's choice. All present knew the Giant to be capable of lying, that he was talented trickster and cunning schemer and they also knew him to be trustworthy and true, and had witnessed his work in uplifting the kingdom and its society with technological wonders they had once thought of as the results of magic and alchemy. All within the Imperial court and beyond it, respected him, knew him to be both Wise, just and kind. Of all the men of Long-Jia, he alone stood above all others as a symbol of virtuous conduct and manner. The very incarnation of benevolence.

Some present for the Giant's warning had even beheld technology equivalent to the horrors the scion of Nothing now grimly described, interspaced with accounts of the atrocities the Vishnu committed upon themselves, and thus became as pale as bloodless corpses in their dread. All looked to the first emperor of the the Virtuous empire for guidance, for reassurance or for a decisive declaration of war to be rid of the monsters beyond the swamps and mountains.

But the Imperial Dragon merely nodded along, eyes narrowed and filled with a ice that those who flocked to his side found to be most uncharacteristic. But to his queen, his favored general, and the brother who knelt before him, they knew it for what it was.
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>>5039152

For those closest to him had witnessed the cold expression of consideration and calculation he now wore countless times. It was the look of a sometimes scattered mind coming together for a singular focus and goal. The eyes of a natural genius. The very same eyes with which he watched carps swimming in a decorative pond, and found the movements of a martial style that even a giant found useful.

When Lieren began to speak of bolstering the imperial army and allowing the production of weaponry, armaments and war machines he had once personally counselled the emperor to restrict and make the research and pursuit of them forbidden for the greater good and continue prosperity of the realm, Jinhai listened quietly. Terrible, mind numbing visions of what fate may await his beloved Wenling, Liling, and Bojing and their mother Daiyu, flashed through his imaginative mind's eye like a storm of nightmares. He retained his composure, except for within his eyes which grew increasingly cold with the terrible conviction of a father charging to defend his children.

As the court fell silent, waiting on baited breath to hear the imperial decree carried by the radiant words of their imperial majesty, Jinhai sat in smoldering silence.

He wished peace would last forever, but he was not naive. With a lash of his arm, he spoke an edict that all present yearned to hear.

He followed his older brother's council.

And so the Journey to war began. By the day's end every factory from Gao to Luo became alive with relentless, restless activity and labor to meet the production demands of the emperor's edicts. Those that were not specialized for the creation of weapons of war or the materials required for such industry, were changed and adapt to be such.

In the a solemn meeting between the Black general, Golden eyed Giant, The Firestorm, Lord of Cavalry and the Carp Emperor himself, the finer details of the production of new weapons and machines that could match and overcome those fielded by the Butcher King's armies were discussed and agreed upon.

By the next day, Long-Jia's factories were halted, as from the imperial court new blueprints and instructions were received requesting them to funnel the resources they had to the bone devouring forest, to be delivered by imperial convoys. By Night, the factories returned to their usual activity, their overseers and managers only confused by the sudden command and order to cease their pursuit of it. An edict traveled to the industries that fed Long-Jia's many and varied industries, from quarries and lumberyards, to the foundries that made the "Carp scale glass" and other more refined materials such as plastic to increase the yield of their labors and production by several magnitudes. Laborers and officals from all the domestic ministries were reassigned to achieve the task asked of Long-Jia's industry.
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>>5039152
Is there a post missing?
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>>5039154

None questioned their new orders, and fewer yet noticed the Giant's restless journey across the kingdom, from Gao to the furthest Reaches of the shuni Provinces, spending his vast wealth to construct mines, mills and refineries in peculiar locations in search of esoteric materials, some of which had no name and were wholly undocumented before he arrived.

Nor did any consider the company he kept in this brief journey, or the identity of the tall and thin figures that lead Lieren to the sites that contained the treasures he sought.
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Luli and Kang Yongrui were the only outsiders allowed into Kanzeon's body, you felt it only fitting they be allowed to witness the events that transpired within her. The most gifted and powerful of the wanderers in the fog and the Aeldari who have experience in such matters, work tirelessly to aid in her excavation.

The peak she was buried beneath, the former home of the tiger folk was rocked with explosions and quakes. Precision lasers carved through it, as automated drones broke down the stone and soil into its component materials to expedite their refinement and transportation. Large sections of the mountain face were crushed by the combined psionic might of Cultivator and Warlock, working in tandem to perform the technique of the spirit's touch. The Five elements were called to break the prison that held Kanzeon's true body. Complex formations and rites were performed by the outer disciples and Carys, to alter the landscape and hasten the process kanzeon had started by her own hand.

Such a labor had been unseen since the fall of mankind and the arrival of the long night. Psykerism and technology utilized together to complete an otherwise impossible task. You aided Meixiu and Guozhi in their efforts to tear a chunk from the deeper mountain upwards, the assist kanzeon's tireless legion of drones in deconstructing it wholesale. The heat and raw energy produced by Kanzeon's forges began to melt the mountain itself, as if it were the chrysalis of a butterfly ready to be freed.

The "Empyrean Jade", as Cai dubbed the corrupting mutative crystals, was hauled away to be refined in those same forges to be returned to her heart and flesh. As Carys advised against using it to expand the psionic power of your sect's members or as fuel for the rituals she lead them in performing.

As machines toiled, the five elements existed in a state of ideal harmony.

And then, as Meixiu expended the last reserves of her deepened well of stamina, Kanzeon called to you. Summoning you to her heart. Placing a hand on Guozhi's shoulders, through wind whispering you alerted him the grand labor was approaching its completion.

Ecstatic, overflowing with Joy, the old man lifted the young girl up in his arm's with a youthful vigor, and carried your message across the chosen disciples allowed the privledge of aiding in this greatest of endeavors to liberate your beloved and so reduce a mountain to nothing.
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Marching into your beloved, you met with those assigned to ensuring her well being within her, and Kang Yongrui who watched in awed amazement of the efficiency of her manufactorums and the vast quantity of materials they were able to process and build into the components of weapons, tools and vehicles inspired by the technology of both the Aeldari and ancient humanity.

Your lover's body, had returned to the state of her youth and its full efficiency. She had been healed, a priceless treasure had been returned to the world.

A gate way formed of outstretched hands opened before you as you passed by her vessel of flesh and blood, which slept to recover from the excitement that vibrated throughout every station of her body and shined through every light fixture. In your thoughts and heard, in the core of your being, you could here Kanzeon's boundless join as you walk through her veins, walking above the grandeur of her body's vast industry. It was like walking through a city lost to the ages, and witnessing the beauty that had been lost to the unrelenting march of time.

In your mind's eye, you imagined yourself watching besides the ghosts of her passengers and crew, some familiar yet so distant. With tears streaming down your cheeks, you envisioned what she must have been like when she was fully populated. What it was like when she flew freely between the stars.

And you realized, she would soon again be able to take flight. That she could once again bear life. That she was truly healed. That she was healed.

You nearly felled to your knees in rapturous joy. She was healed. She had recovered, despite the tragedies of the past. You wept, and were led by her disembodied hands, urged forward and to her the center of her being.

"My beloved hunter" She said lovingly to you, as she reveal the entirety of her being "Behold my body its entirety, from the smallest scale and to minutest of details, like no other has before. Know me, whole and complete, as I have not been for eons. See me, as only you are permitted to. Look upon the results of our shared labor of love. Witness, the salvation of not only myself but all of Shangrala! Witness me! Complete and beautiful! Bask in the radiance of my true self! It is my gift to you, darling! Myself! Mended at last, whole once more! All of it is yours, as all of you is mine! Down to the smallest of material particles. In both body and soul, I belong to you, as you belong to me. Is it not awe inspiring!? Am I not peerless in my beauty? Unrivaled in my magnificence? Look! Look! Look closer! Admire me in my entirety! Admire every part of me! Glut your eyes upon my body, ravish me with them! Is it not incredible! the Grand achievement of humanity! the Magnum Opus of ancient sciences! Does the sight of my body not please you"

Her triumphant, amorous laughter shatters the heavens themselves. At long last, after untold millennium of confinement and isolation, Kanzeon has been freed

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>>5039159

You bow your heard, tears falling freely from your cheeks before you looked upwards with a grin of felicity only matched by Kanzeon's own.

The Like of The triumph of her release shall perhaps never be matched or seen again, upon Shangrala or any world.

What do you do Now, Lieren?

>Fly with her, and reach for the stars to celebrate her liberation in private. Like a wedded couple walking along the shore of a vast lake

>Now that Kanzeon has produced enough equipment to arm the imperial army thrice over, join her in the creation of an item or set of tools that could only be called magical

>Now that she is fully repaired, mark down the location of her still lost sister ships.

>In a symbolic gesture, use her "Halls of ripening" Bring dragons back to Shangrala, alongside other mystical beasts that were hunted to extinction ages past.

>Write in


>>5039155
Nope, just put the _ there to show the perspective shift.
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>>5039161
>>Now that Kanzeon has produced enough equipment to arm the imperial army thrice over, join her in the creation of an item or set of tools that could only be called magical
>In a symbolic gesture, use her "Halls of ripening" Bring dragons back to Shangrala, alongside other mystical beasts that were hunted to extinction ages past.
>Now that she is fully repaired, mark down the location of her still lost sister ships.
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>>5039161
>Fly with her, and reach for the stars to celebrate her liberation in private. Like a wedded couple walking along the shore of a vast lake
If this means we propose to her then yes. If not, Do so.
>Now that Kanzeon has produced enough equipment to arm the imperial army thrice over, join her in the creation of an item or set of tools that could only be called magical

>Now that she is fully repaired, mark down the location of her still lost sister ships.
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>>5039161
>>Now that she is fully repaired, mark down the location of her still lost sister ships.
>>In a symbolic gesture, use her "Halls of ripening" Bring dragons back to Shangrala, alongside other mystical beasts that were hunted to extinction ages past.
I'm mostly against construction of an artifact because people will keep pushing for a guandao despite it being a joke at this. Seriously Lieren never wins a boss fight with a guandao and instead wins with swords or his fists.
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>>5039161
>>Fly with her, and reach for the stars to celebrate her liberation in private. Like a wedded couple walking along the shore of a vast lake
Fuck the more practical aspects. Our Boy deserves to be selfish for once and enjoy a honeymoon with his wife.
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>>5039161
>>Fly with her, and reach for the stars to celebrate her liberation in private. Like a wedded couple walking along the shore of a vast lake
>>In a symbolic gesture, use her "Halls of ripening" Bring dragons back to Shangrala, alongside other mystical beasts that were hunted to extinction ages past.
>>Write in
In orbit, have Kanzeon construct orbit to surface bombardment weapons and ancillary defence systems. Orbital bombardment will be a trump card not available to our opposite number as sister-in-law is unable to fly.
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>>5039161
>Fly with her, and reach for the stars to celebrate her liberation in private. Like a wedded couple walking along the shore of a vast lake
>Now that she is fully repaired, mark down the location of her still lost sister ships.
>In a symbolic gesture, use her "Halls of ripening" Bring dragons back to Shangrala, alongside other mystical beasts that were hunted to extinction ages past.
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>>5039161
>Now that she is fully repaired, mark down the location of her still lost sister ships.
>In a symbolic gesture, use her "Halls of ripening" Bring dragons back to Shangrala, alongside other mystical beasts that were hunted to extinction ages past.
I think we can afford one symbolic gesture, honestly the moment Nitya and chaos shipfu know kanzeon is free and fully repaired they will do everything in their power to accomplish the same if they don't want to be smashed via orbital bombardment before they even leave their borders.
Dropping right the fuck on top of them with Kanzeon carrying the entire imperial army as soon as we can might be the overall best course of action.
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>>5039161
>>Fly with her, and reach for the stars to celebrate her liberation in private. Like a wedded couple walking along the shore of a vast lake
>>In a symbolic gesture, use her "Halls of ripening" Bring dragons back to Shangrala, alongside other mystical beasts that were hunted to extinction ages past.
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>>5039161
>Fly with her, and reach for the stars to celebrate her liberation in private. Like a wedded couple walking along the shore of a vast lake
>In a symbolic gesture, use her "Halls of ripening" Bring dragons back to Shangrala, alongside other mystical beasts that were hunted to extinction ages past.
>Now that Kanzeon has produced enough equipment to arm the imperial army thrice over, join her in the creation of an item or set of tools that could only be called magical
The rebirth of the Dragons could only be interpreted by the masses as a good omen in relation to Jinhai's reign, the coming conflict, and the state of the fledgling Empire going forward.
Exactly what we need to boost morale before we move into open conflict with the Vat-Grown Vishnu.
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>Now that Kanzeon has produced enough equipment to arm the imperial army thrice over, join her in the creation of an item or set of tools that could only be called magical

>Now that she is fully repaired, mark down the location of her still lost sister ships.

>In a symbolic gesture, use her "Halls of ripening" Bring dragons back to Shangrala, alongside other mystical beasts that were hunted to extinction ages past

These three are good.
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>>5039161
>>Fly with her, and reach for the stars to celebrate her liberation in private. Like a wedded couple walking along the shore of a vast lake
>>In a symbolic gesture, use her "Halls of ripening" Bring dragons back to Shangrala, alongside other mystical beasts that were hunted to extinction ages past.

"and so the Golden eyed Giant and his bride traveled to the heavens and brought back the noble dragons from where they rested. Upon treading the lands again the people rejoiced for now the heavens themselves were open."
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>>5039161
>In a symbolic gesture, use her "Halls of ripening" Bring dragons back to Shangrala, alongside other mystical beasts that were hunted to extinction ages past.
>Fly with her, and reach for the stars to celebrate her liberation in private. Like a wedded couple walking along the shore of a vast lake
>Now that she is fully repaired, mark down the location of her still lost sister ships.
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>>5039161
>In a symbolic gesture, use her "Halls of ripening" Bring dragons back to Shangrala, alongside other mystical beasts that were hunted to extinction ages past.
>Fly with her, and reach for the stars to celebrate her liberation in private. Like a wedded couple walking along the shore of a vast lake
>Now that she is fully repaired, mark down the location of her still lost sister ships.
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>>5039161
>Now that Kanzeon has produced enough equipment to arm the imperial army thrice over, join her in the creation of an item or set of tools that could only be called magical
Could definitely come in handy. The more bling we have, the better.
>In a symbolic gesture, use her "Halls of ripening" Bring dragons back to Shangrala, alongside other mystical beasts that were hunted to extinction ages past.
Symbolic it may be, but this will bolster the moral of the masses, which is a precious thing, since I imagine this conflict will drive good humour into short supply.
>Now that she is fully repaired, mark down the location of her still lost sister ships.
We have to at least know where they are, before Avalokiteśvara gets any funny ideas.

I would really want to go on a private tour of the stars, but we can always do that later. War calls, and waits for no one.
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>>5039161
>Fly with her, and reach for the stars to celebrate her liberation in private. Like a wedded couple walking along the shore of a vast lake
>Now that she is fully repaired, mark down the location of her still lost sister ships.

>In a symbolic gesture, use her "Halls of ripening" Bring dragons back to Shangrala, alongside other mystical beasts that were hunted to extinction ages past.
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>>5039236
I agree and support.

I've no idea what sort of magical tools we can find good use for.
A hoard cleaner is probably what we need for upcoming battle but other uses could be helpful
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>>5039161
>Now that Kanzeon has produced enough equipment to arm the imperial army thrice over, join her in the creation of an item or set of tools that could only be called magical
>Now that she is fully repaired, mark down the location of her still lost sister ships.
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>>5039161
>>Now that she is fully repaired, mark down the location of her still lost sister ships.
>>In a symbolic gesture, use her "Halls of ripening" Bring dragons back to Shangrala, alongside other mystical beasts that were hunted to extinction ages past.
>>Fly with her, and reach for the stars to celebrate her liberation in private. Like a wedded couple walking along the shore of a vast lake
>Kees da gurl
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>>5039161
> Fly with her, and reach for the stars to celebrate her liberation in private. Like a wedded couple walking along the shore of a vast lake
I can *feel* Wenyan shouting to the heavens "GRANDCHILDREN!!!"

> Kiss the Girl
FUCKING FINALLY.

> Now that she is fully repaired, mark down the location of her still lost sister ships.
Here's hoping that her other sister are in better shape.

> In a symbolic gesture, use her "Halls of ripening" Bring dragons back to Shangrala, alongside other mystical beasts that were hunted to extinction ages past.
You have to know that I couldn't resist the option that leads to Pokemon: Warhams Edition.

Also, I can just imagine that future cults might disparage Kanzeon as the 'Mother of Monsters'...primarily because their habits of looking for secluded places for lairs inadvertently means they often end up dragon chow.
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Also, we now have a DAOT vessel. Fully functioning and free.

FUCK YOU VISHNU, FEAR US!
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>>5039161
>Fly with her, and reach for the stars to celebrate her liberation in private. Like a wedded couple walking along the shore of a vast lake
>Kiss the shipfu
>In a symbolic gesture, use her "Halls of ripening" Bring dragons back to Shangrala, alongside other mystical beasts that were hunted to extinction ages past.
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>>5039508
Her sister isn't free yet?
Despite the slave army and archeotech everything?
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>>5039560
Her sister is much like her, missing resources. But unlike us they don't have eldar and other psykers to cheat hunting down the resources needed.
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Had a thought, since orks are a fungus, could we super fuck them up using Wuxing?
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>>5039575
Wuxing is not about physical elements but forces of change.
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>>5039576
yes but it ties into the wood element. Use what ever weakens would to massively fuck over Orks since at their base nature they're fungus.
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>>5039575
I don't know about Wuxing, but we do have the golden sea to counter the WAAAGH! buffs.
But maybe we can make some good antifungal spray in the future, cultivation has a lot of alchemy tied to it afterall.
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>>5039560
>>5039569
That and she's been corrupted, most likely by Khorne.
Stands to reason that she thinks raising an army is more important than freeing herself right now.
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>>5039579
We'll have to figure out they're fungus first. I can picture Lieren's "what the actual fuck" moment when he realizes he's fighting angry mushrooms.
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>>5039161
>Fly with her, and reach for the stars to celebrate her liberation in private. Like a wedded couple walking along the shore of a vast lake
>Now that Kanzeon has produced enough equipment to arm the imperial army thrice over, join her in the creation of an item or set of tools that could only be called magical
>Kiss the girl
The less choices we pick, the more affected our choices will be. The sisters can be found when the battle is won. Same for making the dragons.

>>5039386
A DaoT tier power field? A better Guandao? The creation of new bodies for soul stones? Could be anything.

>>5039168
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>>5039425
I dont understand the appeal for bringing out dragons and finding the other sisters right now when it would cost resources and time to dig them out, and choosing too many options. Would someone be kind enough to explain the reason for dragon or finding the ships?
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>>5039644
I thought we would just make a simple map and do something later about it.
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>>5039644
Dont really need a power field, it's just a "I will break your power field" sorta thing and has a very limited application outside fo dueling the Vishnu king.

Same with better Guandao. It's alreadyfantastic and we already have a disintegration beam.

We no longer have any soul stones to put bodies in, least none that are filled so wouldnt be too helpful.

Perhaps some upgrade to our armour? We saw people flitting across dimensions in the Vishnu Capitol, so accessing that sort of tech or a teleport beacon would open some doors to hunt down those foes/avoid our own.

Also, marking the sisters down with Kanzeons sensors saves looking for them later.
Dragons. Eh. Material wise they are a poor material investment. In regards to our code it is repairing the natural world and will raise the morale of our peoples, since we can spin it as an auspicious sign.
One appearing was a sign that Jinhai was a chosen emperor of the courts. All of them returning to life must be a sign if our overwhelming good fortune against the Vishnu
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>>5039644
>A better Guandao?
Lol. No way fag.
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>>5039644
The vote says to just mark down, so I think it's to know their locations for later.
I don't know about the dragons reintroducing extinct species can be bad for tge ecosystem, and it would take quite a lot of resources to preserve them, and introduce them to the wilds.
I'm voting for the artifact because DAoT tech is crazy, whatever it ends up being is going to be useful.
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>>5039644
Bringing dragons is a matter of moral. Consider that we are about to enter a bloody conflict against insane Khornates with advanced technology, such a conflict will surely shake the resolve of wider armed forces. Just the crazy shit they will see alone will make the average foot soldier shit themselves. Bringing dragons back would be a rare, never before seen omen that will surely bolster the courage of the masses. We can arm them as heavily as we want, it will not matter if they loose heart. We cannot win this war alone, and boosting their moral would be hard once they are knee deep in blood. This is the perfect time for this kind of propaganda.

As for the sisters, the vote is only to mark their location. I just want to ensure that the Vishnu or Avalokiteśvara do nothing to them during the course of the conflict. They are incredibly valuable assets, and it would be only natural for Avalokiteśvara to try and bring them to her side. If we don't know where they are, we would be unable to respond even if we knew they were planning to do something to them.
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>>5039161
>>Now that Kanzeon has produced enough equipment to arm the imperial army thrice over, join her in the creation of an item or set of tools that could only be called magical
RUYI
>RUYI
JINGU
>JINGU
BANG
>BANG
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Maybe we should get an op relic for the king himself to protect him from the wrath of the skull taker?
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>>5039658
I'd rather a pocket dimension storage or a different weapon instead to better leverage Lieren's fight style (which has him switching weapons and adapting different scenario) which nobody will go for despite our need for other options we can switch to. Lieren fighting style demands adaptability and option.
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>>5039659
TBF it's been a fantastic weapon with the sole exception against that Malal demon, and even then it lasted pretty long.

>>5039671
Our armies already have all the moral they need, and no amount of dragons will improve that. What with being led by a giant, having The Journey, and unity among nations against the last tyrant on the planet.

>>5039690
???

>>5039700
Like one of those Necron pokeballs?
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>>5039699
. . . That's genius.

Wait. What if we gave Jinhai a swap-bracelet. Let him swap places with us, so we draw Sinya into assaulting Jinhai and suddenly Lieren.

probably a bad idea, but it'd be good.

>>5039700
Well lets recap.
We have the psychicly enhancing Chendao
We have two daos.
We have six fanged spear
Pretty sure we have a las pistol of some sort.

Psycherist techniques, that Nitya is going to mostly ignore or counteract due to his overpowering rage rendering his mind and body able to mitigate a lot of the magic. So what sort of gear are you thinking? Those hand scythe things on chains that ninjas/scorpion used? Hardlight producing bracers that fire endless throwing knives?


>>5039739
The dragons will provide some morale increase due to their cultural impact. It'd be taken and spun as a sign by the courts that they fight the war of rightiousness and are endorsed by the highest stations of the heaven, exactly the same message that was given when Jinhai was given one as an imperial pet.

and ignore >>5039690 He wants that stupid monkey king staff, that's been brought up and rejected so much that it's very mention is either a shitpost or annoying or both.
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>>5039739
It's the magic staff of the monkey king, but I'm sure Malal will give multiple options of potential artifacts to make.
Although part of me wants it if only for the meme.
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>>5039747
yeah but it's a shit meme.
I hope we never get it just so anons like >>5039659 can just sit there and seethe
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>>5039744
>endorsed by the highest stations of the heaven
Anon the courts of heaven is bad. We really need to change that. Heaven is just the chaos gods.

>>5039747
I dont like this meme anymore. It's getting stale like bread left out on the counter.
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>>5039161
>>Now that Kanzeon has produced enough equipment to arm the imperial army thrice over, join her in the creation of an item or set of tools that could only be called magical
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>>5039744
>We have two daos.
>We have six fanged spear
Last I check we gave away those weapons.
>So what sort of gear are you thinking?
Well a sort of storage device that allows for quick retrival would be the best. Being able to store enough weapons to arm an army of peasant or carry enough explosives to destroy should never be underestimated.
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>>5039766
*to destroy a city
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>>5039757
Yeah, we know that.
But the culture hasn't shifted away from that view, nor can we claim the courts are bad since that's saying they exist and goes against our promise to Dad. So yes, divine mandate is still a great motivational tool, just not something we should say aloud, rather show it through bringing back dragons.

>>5039766
I don't remember it being given away.
A storage device of such a manner is always practical. If it has a stasis effect, even better.
If we can keep organic material in there, say small animals or people, best of all.
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>>5039744
>He wants that stupid monkey king staff, that's been brought up and rejected so much that it's very mention is either a shitpost or annoying or both.
Imagine getting so butthurt over thematic appropriateness. Couldn’t be me.
>>5039747
Based
>>5039757
>It's getting stale like bread left out on the counter.
More like improving with age, like a fine wine or cheese.
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>>5039744
> What if we gave Jinhai a swap-bracelet. Let him swap places with us, so we draw Sinya into assaulting Jinhai and suddenly Lieren.
> Probably a bad idea, but it'd be good.

I think it could be done really well with the right planning, technology and bait.

As the war begins, he'll be sending waves of berserk slave-clones as both shock assaults and to reveal where our strong points are, what kind of weaponry and defenses we have in place, what the most vulnerable sections of the border are, etc. Once he sees a point of entry, he'll send the monsters in his service to make hell and carve a path for he himself to seek Lieren or Jinhai.

With calculated retreats and reinforcements sent to the right places, we can draw the bastard into a deliberate assault on a relatively minor holdfast where he believes the Carp Emperor is leading his forces in disguise. The Butcher King sends his own generals and elites to contend with the Four Kings of War and the other associated Long-Jia elite so he can relish killing Lieren's brother and mortal champion.

Make him believe that Lieren has led the Panthers into the mist to strike against his flanks and seek out his commanders, as he well knows the golden-eyed Hunter is want to do, trusting in deception to protect Jinhai better than a sprawling fortress or massive army.

And when he breaks through, followed only by his personal guard/slaves, the illusion is cast aside to reveal that it was Lieren all along and that Jinhai has been likewise perfectly mimicking his dear brother's hunting strategies alongside the Brotherhood.

And then the double whammy when the secret Aeldari allies and the Wanderers activate a Null field encircling the entire complex at the same time as a scrambling device...leaving Nitya Sinha deaf to the voice of his deranged bride, all alone with only the grinning Primarch who insults and defies his god with every breath.

https://youtu.be/EAwWPadFsOA
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>>5039775
I think it was mentioned we gave away the Dao to fellow Panther warrior though I'm not sure. The spear I think is in the ownership of Jinhai since he's a spear user. I doubt anyone will vote to take the weapons back before the war (especially before the war).
Though my vote for the weapon we use during the war is to pick up a long sturdy stick, enhance and reinforce it with psyker powers, then smacking them unconcious and smashing their weapons. Nothing will express our distaste for Khorne and his bullshit than that.
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>>5039781
>only two posts
Suspicious

>>5039775
Still not seeing a reason to bring all those animals back. They might die due from other predators, lot fitting in the local eco system, just a lot of doubts overall.
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>>5039790
>They might die due from other predators, lot fitting in the local eco system, just a lot of doubts overall.
What Malal said is very clear.
>alongside other mystical beasts that were hunted to extinction ages past.
Not to mention such beasts are usually great for alchemy which Lieren should have an affinity for.
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>>5039781
Dead memes that contribute nothing should stay dead and not stink up the present. And that's the last word on the matter.

>>5039784
We'd have to block out the tech feed, rather than psych feed, but it's plausible.

I don't think we should wait for them to launch a probing attack though. We should attack them first, hit hard and deep, then draw them back towards us as we whittle them down, or strike forwards to punish them for not following. Keep their clone build up in check.

Then we can keep Kanzeon in reserve for when we need that air-strike shit.

>>5039789
I genuinely can't remember. But if they have it, then lets not. We can produce more of their like anyway. Gauntlet mounted darklight emitter?

And yeah, can I ask why you want to do that when our Chendao can just. . Change shape?
But even before that, that is so logistically disastrous for us, that I see no reason to follow it.

We would be one man knocking people out in an army of thousands gunning clones down by the hundreds. And they will either be smashed to paste with the force of our swings or wake up later to just cause more trouble. So while it's a nice idea to spite Khorne, it's wildly impractical.

>>5039790
Bring animals back, inspire men more. If they unbalance the eco system, that shit usually takes months to years to take effect so we can just fix that when the war is over.

But making a small number, like a hundred or so, shouldn't since it's too small to make a widespread impact and enough to show off as a motivational piece.
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>>5039792
Still not seeing the appeal of bringing back extinct animals right before our fight, when doing so would lessen the effectiveness of the other tasks we're choosing to do for this round of voting.

>Not to mention such beasts are usually great for alchemy which Lieren should have an affinity for.
I dont ever recall that being a think Lieren had an affinity to. Alchemy is really primitive medicine ain't it, or are you talking about magic stuff with alchemist fires or healing potions? Pretty sure those are DnD things.
Anyways Lieren would be good with medicine and healing people, which technically alchemy falls under since its basic but less effective as modern medicine, but also counter intuitive since you want to bring extinct animals back to life, only to hunt them down for medicine, when you can hey the same results from just manufacturing the medicines you need.

Tl;dr still confusee and not seeing a functional reason for animals.
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>>5039801
anon it is one of the symbols of the imperial family, bringing them back is a huge morale booster for our own soldiers. Also new warbeasts, whats not to love?
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>>5039802
>war beasts
>flying fire breathing dragons
....okay you've convinced me, but that doesnr me I still dont have to 100% like the idea.
>op say more suggestions means weaker results
That's the main reason why I'm iffy about going to find the sisters so soon and bringing back animals.
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>>5039789
I think we only gave away one of the twins swords, or one of them broke, I don't remember which.
But if we haven't given Jinhai the archeotech spear yet, we should now. Or atleast a copy, he is going to need it.
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>>5039801
Alchemy is a thing is cultivation, there is a whole deal with ibrernal cauldron and the like where you ibgeat raw material and pill to grow stronger and shit.
Maybe some of those are true and the parts are psyker reactive, It's hard to know. A bunch of folklore that Lieren dismissed as surpestition turned out true, if a bit overblown.
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>>5039800
>And yeah, can I ask why you want to do that when our Chendao can just. . Change shape?
Because it's funny? Because picking random stick in front of some Khorne worshippers and beating them with it is demoralizing for them multiple reasons? Because it's thematically great?
>>5039801
>Alchemy is really primitive medicine ain't it, or are you talking about magic stuff with alchemist fires or healing potions?
Chinese alchemy is bullshit. There is a reason many Xianxia novels put a lot of emphasis alchemy.
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>>5039813
It sounds like superstitious bullshit and I hate it for that. There is currently no reason for Lieren to kill dragons or mythical creatures for the sake of making pills.
Thing about it
>use advanced technology to create the whole animal
>throw animal into the wild
>kill it for this one chemical component
>wasting all that energy and resources
When you could instead
>grow a controlled piece of animal or produce its chemical effects with advanced medical facilities
>expedite the tedious extra steps
Now some of the folklore and superstitions I guess makes sense, with Eldari having farseers, but pills? This is the 30th millenia, not primitive ancient china from back when.
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Calling the vote now

Now that Kanzeon has produced enough equipment to arm the imperial army thrice over, join her in the creation of an item or set of tools that could only be called magical: 10

In a symbolic gesture, use her "Halls of ripening" Bring dragons back to Shangrala, alongside other mystical beasts that were hunted to extinction ages past.:17

Now that she is fully repaired, mark down the location of her still lost sister ships.:14

Fly with her, and reach for the stars to celebrate her liberation in private. Like a wedded couple walking along the shore of a vast lake:14

In orbit, have Kanzeon construct orbit to surface bombardment weapons and ancillary defense systems: 1

Kiss kanzeon:4

Total votes: 23

Alright, So making dragons (and other extinct beasts), marking down the location of all of Kanzeon's sisters to seek them out at a later date, and taking a private flight through the stars with Kanzeon wins!

Writing now
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>>5039816
But then the sticks would just break against the berserkers. It would be better to punch them at that point.

>Chinese alchemy is bullshit. There is a reason many Xianxia novels put a lot of emphasis alchemy.
Yeah, it's pretty cringe.
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>>5039816
The stick, psychically enhanced it may be, will still break. It'd probably make them angry, or they may not care depending on how far gone they are.
Cannot argue with it being funny, but we really don't have time for slapstick in the middle of combat.

I'll see myself out.
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>>5039821
>enhance and reinforce it with psyker powers
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>>5039823
Aye, but Khorne usually likes doling our anti psyker bullshit to his favored slaves, plus theres gonna be some DaoT involved, plus vehicles, and as funny as clubbing everything with a stick would be we really should treat this seriously.
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>>5039818
The whole thing about bringing back dragons just to harvest them being dumb and cruel is true, but there might be reason behind it. Maybe the death is part of the ritual or something, I don't know.
I didn't vote for the option, I'm being a devil's advocate.
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>>5039820
Well rip artifacts, instead of doing something that would help in the war now we are opening a zoo that could be done after we won.
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>>5039827
Shame about the artifacts. But oh well.
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>>5039827
>>5039829
Not like the chance is gone forever
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>>5039826
Being that there's usually a magical component to Xianxia alchemy, like using a magic flame.
There's also a artifacts and formations, artifacts are obvious but formations we've made more use of.
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>>5039830
Wife deserves some alone time not dedicated to work.
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>>5039826
>but there might be reason behind it.

Whatever the reason might be, it's probably chaos oriented, especially if you bring rituals into the equation. Isn't bringing something back from extinction, only to hunt them down is needlessly cruel. isn't that something wholly against one of the aspects of the Journey? All life is equal?

>>5039832
Smells like chaos. It would be best to conduct research on this, rather than needlessly kill animals.
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>>5039830
I know Malal, it just that that it would have been useful now. The not gone forever is more of a consolation if the extinct option had lost.
Or maybe we can conscript the dragons and give them laser guns or something, that could help the war effort.
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>>5039825
Khorne isn't antipsyker, he's anti sorceror cause he views that as stealing from the gods.
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>>5039839
Seriously researching alchemy is a good idea actually, just so we can separate what is folklore from what is legit, and psyker rituals from foul sorcery if they work.
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>>5039839
>it's probably chaos oriented
Honestly Eldar have stuff like Chinese alchemy though it isn't obvious unless you look deeper.
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>>5039848
Like what?
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>>5039839
>Isn't bringing something back from extinction, only to hunt them down is needlessly cruel. isn't that something wholly against one of the aspects of the Journey? All life is equal?
And for this part I'd like to remind you that Lieren is literally a hunter. His position is more against wastefulness and cruelty than not killing others.
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>>5039790
>Zero intelligent responses
Likewise
>>5039800
>Dead memes that contribute nothing should stay dead and not stink up the present.
Neither should ~2 iq posts, but here you are.
>And that's the last word on the matter.
You’re only the arbiter of what I post in your small, ruyi-jingu-bangphobe mind.
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>>5039856
He is also a philosopher, a farmer, technically a super foster father, and tax collector. Not really helping my point but still.

>Maybe the death is part of the ritual or something
>death in any ritual
No just.....no.
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>>5039851
Everything Haemonculi related. Isha teaches the Eldar how to make cures for every disease in existence. There is one about how Vaul alloys souls in wraithsteel but that one is a stretch. Unfortuately we lack more info on Eldar because of how neglected they are.
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From dawn to sunset, you and kanzeon remain isolated from all others. Celebrating, crying, overcome with a joy purer than untrodden snow, than the waters of untapped springs, than the first winds of spring. Few words are spoken, there is no need give form to your shared emotions with language. The connection of your hearts and spirits are sufficient to communicate to each other and the world beyond the raw potency and depth of the emotions shared between the two of you. Like two drunkards stumbling hand and hand beneath the stars, covered in sweat from the two man festival they carry out from one day to the next, ignorant of the passing of time or the exhaustion slowly creeping into their bones beneath the haze of wine and brandy. Like two old lovers made young again by poems found pressed behind a long unmoved dresser. Like two warriors using their last breaths to comfort the other with careless laughter to banish away the fearful specter of death looming over both. It is a primal, natural joy.

It is the joy of two lovers at last reunited, at last able to hold the others in their arms, to feel the other's breath upon their neck, to feel their pulse beneath the tips of their fingers. It is the triumph of love against reason and probability, of love blooming despite the odds stacked against it and the trials laid ahead of a now shared path of life. Pure, blissful joy. There is nothing quite as intoxicating as it that cleanses that soul rather than pollute it. To describe it would be to insult it.

At last, when your hearts have calmed their passions and the triumphant exultation of success fades, the moon hangs high in the sky. Without a word exchanged, both of you return to the duties only the two of you working together can fulfill.

The first, is marking the location of Kanzeon's sisters who remain lost. It takes moments for Kanzeon's repaired sensors to locate her kin across the vastness of Shangrala, presenting a map larger than any painted by mortal hands. And so, the integrity and health of her sisters are at last revealed to you. Kuan Im and Avalokiteśvara have no surprises to make. Kuan Im's signs reveal her "death", but judging from the readings taken it could easily be repaired or salvaged if one could circumvent the "Empyrean Radiation" that soaks her body, abandoned like the skin of a shedding snake. Avalokiteśvara has had her engines crippled, alongside approximately 60% of her automated defenses, alongside other, insignificant damages.
Al-Uzza, is in dire straights. She has suffered many wounds and failures of her internal systems from her landing, more than those Kanzeon herself suffered. Particularly, her "Core" has suffered heavy damages, explaining the thinning of reality around Kamal Kanan's seat of power and the vast quantities of magical beast that still haunt the countryside of the Shuni provinces. She is bleeding, and any facilities she could use to repair herself need repairing.
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>>5039881

Mari, is surprisingly, nearly completely unharmed. However, she is also beneath several miles of ice and stone and has been broadcasting a warning signal for approximately a decade less than when Kuan Im betrayed her purpose and forsake her name to become the wretch Huli Jing. That bodes ill. Especially with the knowledge that it is Mari who has trapped herself beneath the ice and turned the Bask region's environment frigid.

You also learn the existence of three more who Kanzeon had yet spoken of. One, upon a vast lake larger than any you have yet seen, Named Anahita, whose has completely lost her manufactorums in her landing alongside other, anticpated injuries, the nearest sister to Anahita, named Philotes, has been sadly lost, and can only be salvaged like Kuan Im or given a new soul, though kanzeon refuses to explain what that means. A more distant sibling, named, Albina, has also died giving her life as Philotes did, carrying her passengers to Shangrala.

Both have given their final words, that salve the sorrow of their losses. Messages of hope and affection to their sisters. Of joy at being able to fulfill their purpose. Somber, but inspiring. Kanzeon is not as shaken by their loss as she was Kuan Im's betrayal. Indeed, as she herself tells you, she is more relieved that the majority of her sisters can yet be saved.

She is in such good cheer that she begins the process of rebirth several extinct species with genetic code gathered from samples you have gathered in your travels from old bones or trophies within private collections or shopes peddling curiosities and purported occult objects and spiritual remedies. And, at your request, she focus her efforts on bringing back the once regal dragons to the skies, rivers and peaks of Shangrala.

Dragons are a powerful symbol, one that coincides with the current imperial dynasties own heraldry. It may be inviting ill fortune trying to fabricate good omens wholesale, but the people will soon need morale and a beacon of hope and apparent divine providence to bolster their spirits. And you doubt the heavens will complain. They have been, after all, entirely silent through your lifetime! But who can be certain. Besides, these creatures were hunted to extinction to feed the egos of men, they deserve a second chance of life.

Your musings are cut short by Kanzeon's prodding

"Why not create something new? Something exciting? Albina and Philotes always loved to tamper with the genetic coding of their pet projects. It could be their memorial in a way, surely that can be allowed, can't it? I'll be careful to ensure they won't disrupt the natural order too greatly, Darling" She coos, as you look over the opal and jade like eggs being pieced together from the legacy of the last dragon, the poor beast Cearnarch had taken as his personal steed, as a phoenix egg smolders with a dull golden sheen in the pool besides them.

You wryly smile.
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>>5039882

"Is it wise to play god when you are already going against the will of the heavens?" You tease, as Kanzeon huffs, nearly knocking you from your feet with a great gust of air

"Oh they are welcome to file a complaint!" She grumbles before tittering like a maiden "Though I wouldn't step beyond the bounds of what is acceptable, I swear. Just a new breed of cat or a little alteration to those Qilin or Dragons. Just a little mark to make, in honor of the deceased"

You press the back of your knuckles to your chin.

"I can allow it, they have done so much good for the people of this world even giving their lives to protect their precious cargo of lives. If you wish to commemorate their memory with a living art, who am I to stop you from grieving in such a manner. It is a far healthier method of mourning than many others" You coo, hearing Kanzeon's excited giggles as she returns to her work before a sudden turn of fancy strikes you like an arrow.

"Kanzeon" You happily call out "Shall we fly through the stars, alone at last, to enjoy a private walk through the heavens above"

"Oh I've been waiting to get you alone inside of me since we admitted our feelings, My darling Scholar" She coos, sounding half predatory and half enamored as you walk through her halls to gaze through an eye shaped window she conjures for your benefit, as she senses your desire to see Shangrala's face as seen from within the heavens the moment you made you request.

The fog parts and thins as you rise higher than any peak, leaving the impression of a vast field of snow or a bowl of scatter rice grains as she rises higher and higher through the atmosphere. A strange crown surrounds the planet high above its earth, that you recognize as the limits of its atmosphere

Shangrala's sun stand in the distance of in the vast void of the cosmos, surrounded by its numberless family of stars. Other worlds grace your vision, mere specks upon the stygian horizon. Odd currents of light and star dust flow before you like the streams near Nothing. Clouds of gasses, fields of ice, alloys and minerals pressed together grace your vision like the garden of a gods, carefully maintained and preened to preserve its beauty. Wrecks, unrusting and covered in the frost of the void float like petals upon a pond, drifting and carried by a gentle breezes touch.

You are awe struck, and for the first time in your life since you first looked upon Kanzeon, you can understand how men could be made to worship. The beauty of the universe is peerless, unrivaled by anything you have seen before. The origin of all life, the great sea of the stars, heaven itself, is so beautiful it drives you to tears.

Wiping your cheeks with the sleeves of your robes, you place your forehead against the viewport, feeling a great cold snap against it as you look deeper and ponder the abyss between the motes of brilliant light, the darkness between the stars.
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>>5039883

"Adorable" Kanzeon teases, as her avatar places a hand upon your shoulder, enjoying the view by your side.

"Humanity once ruled all of this?" You ask, as a child excited by curiosity would

Kanzeon wears a smug smile

"Most of it" She boasts "The Eldar once claimed to be the lords of all they beheld, but humanity hasn't fallen as far as they had when they brought ruin to everything. Your father, With your and Magnus's assistance, I believe could surpass the glory of old humanity"

The compliment reddens your cheeks.

What do you do, Lieren?

>Officiate your marriage with Kanzeon, and ask her of the past and her sisters.

>Consider that strange rift you behold far upon the stygian horizon, that hangs like a terrible eye in the abyss.

>Take your walk through the stars to a nearby planet, and satiate your scholarly curiosity.

>Admit your fears of the future, in particular the impending war and the bloodshed it shall bring

>write in
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>>5039884

>Consider that strange rift you behold far upon the stygian horizon, that hangs like a terrible eye in the abyss.

THE RED STAR, WE CAN SAVE PERT.


>Admit your fears of the future, in particular the impending war and the bloodshed it shall bring

>Officiate your marriage with Kanzeon, and ask her of the past and her sisters.
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>>5039884
>Officiate your marriage with Kanzeon, and ask her of the past and her sisters.
>Consider that strange rift you behold far upon the stygian horizon, that hangs like a terrible eye in the abyss.
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>>5039888
>THE RED STAR, WE CAN SAVE PERT.
I was going to say this, explaining why staring at the eye of terror is a bad idea would go a long way to deal with his trust issues.
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>>5039884
>Wrecks, unrusting and covered in the frost of the void float like petals upon a pond, drifting and carried by a gentle breezes touch.
Make a note of reclaiming things is space. With any luck, maybe theres a sister or ship that can be saved.

>>5039884
>Officiate your marriage with Kanzeon, and ask her of the past and her sisters.
>Consider that strange rift you behold far upon the stygian horizon, that hangs like a terrible eye in the abyss.
>THE RED STAR, WE CAN SAVE PERT.
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>>5039884
>>Officiate your marriage with Kanzeon, and ask her of the past and her sisters.
>>Consider that strange rift you behold far upon the stygian horizon, that hangs like a terrible eye in the abyss.
>>Admit your fears of the future, in particular the impending war and the bloodshed it shall bring
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>>5039884
>Officiate your marriage with Kanzeon, and ask her of the past and her sisters.
>Consider that strange rift you behold far upon the stygian horizon, that hangs like a terrible eye in the abyss.

Make pert a good boi, I still dream of battle buddy panthers and with her suggestion of moddifying one of the present species, well I can't think of a better gift for our sons than new pets
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>>5039884
>>Officiate your marriage with Kanzeon, and ask her of the past and her sisters.
>>Consider that strange rift you behold far upon the stygian horizon, that hangs like a terrible eye in the abyss.
>>Admit your fears of the future, in particular the impending war and the bloodshed it shall bring
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Also>>5039882
>Mari, is surprisingly, nearly completely unharmed. However, she is also beneath several miles of ice and stone and has been broadcasting a warning signal for approximately a decade less than when Kuan Im betrayed her purpose and forsake her name to become the wretch Huli Jing. That bodes ill. Especially with the knowledge that it is Mari who has trapped herself beneath the ice and turned the Bask region's environment frigid.

Props for Mari for willing entombing her self in ice and what not like rasputin in destiny did. However I don't know how much longer she can hold out considering the prophecy and has probably been the primary focus of nurgle.
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>>5039884
>>Admit your fears of the future, in particular the impending war and the bloodshed it shall bring
>>Officiate your marriage with Kanzeon, and ask her of the past and her sisters.
So she has (or had, in two cases) a Greek, Iranian, and English(?) sister too. The new soul thing is very interesting too, can the same be done to Kuan Im's body? Or perhaps their old souls can be found somewhere in the Empyrean and restored? They're potent souls, maybe they can be summoned or reincarnated/incorporated into the new one.
>>5039895
>With any luck, maybe theres a sister or ship that can be saved.
Odds are there are only 8.
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Can I remind you guys to keep the number of things you vote for down or we weaken the actions y'all keep doing it and it's already cost us Chen and who know what else. Less greed and more pick two max so we can actually focus on said tasks
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>>5039912
I'm pretty sure that's only for wide sweeping things? Like, One of them is staring at the eye of terror, the other is talking with Kanzeon and the last one is getting married.
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>>5039911
Don't jinx it. There's no evidence that there's only eight on this planet. You know what- we should check other planets too for ships if they haven't been butchered.
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>>5039911
>So she has (or had, in two cases) a Greek, Iranian, and English(?) sister too. The new soul thing is very interesting too, can the same be done to Kuan Im's body? Or perhaps their old souls can be found somewhere in the Empyrean and restored? They're potent souls, maybe they can be summoned or reincarnated/incorporated into the new one.

that would require the chaos gods or daemons to have not eaten them.
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>>5039917
Do you recall what happened last time we staredinto unknown space/weirdness?

And we're !notchina a wedding is a whole fuckin ordeal and takes a long time.

We can do all these things
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>>5039922
Yeah, a bunch of stuff that takes a lot of time individually can add up. or stuff that takes time not a lot a time separate can also screw the others, but talking, staring and getting married isn't that bad. Especially since our marriage would take place over time.
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>>5039922
But we need to stare at it to know it's chaos, so when we meet Pert and he complains that noone allowed him to look at the weird nebula, so he hates parental figures, that they where right, but just didn't know why. Pert's problems are deaper than that, but it's a start.
Also I think the marriage is just the proposal, not the whole ceremony, or if it is it's going to be an informal thing.
But you are right to try and limit our actions, that's why I didn't vote to talk about our worries even though it would be a good moment to show weakness. Kanzeon probably already knows anyways.
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>>5039931
And I managed to beat my record on typos and bad grammar, I think I need to go to bed.
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>>5039920
>There's no evidence that there's only eight on this planet.
Aside from the fact her scanners haven't picked any more up, the fact she hasn't mentioned any glaring absence from said scan, and the fact 8 makes symbolic sense. Also
>And so, the integrity and health of her sisters are at last revealed to you.
Not some of her sisters, simply her sisters. None are excluded.
>>5039921
>that would require the chaos gods or daemons to have not eaten them.
I'm optimistic with their chances. They could as easily be floating free or have been saved by whichever explanation of machine presence in the Warp you prefer.
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>>5039884
>Officiate your marriage with Kanzeon, and ask her of the past and her sisters.
>Admit your fears of the future, in particular the impending war and the bloodshed it shall bring
Time to let down our guard.
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>>5039884
>Officiate your marriage with Kanzeon, and ask her of the past and her sisters.
>Consider that strange rift you behold far upon the stygian horizon, that hangs like a terrible eye in the abyss.
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>Officiate your marriage with Kanzeon, and ask her of the past and her sisters.
>Consider that strange rift you behold far upon the stygian horizon, that hangs like a terrible eye in the abyss.
>THE RED STAR, WE CAN SAVE PERT.
+1
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>>5039884
>Officiate your marriage with Kanzeon, and ask her of the past and her sisters.
>Consider that strange rift you behold far upon the stygian horizon, that hangs like a terrible eye in the abyss.
>Take your walk through the stars to a nearby planet, and satiate your scholarly curiosity.
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>>5039884
>Officiate your marriage with Kanzeon, and ask her of the past and her sisters.
>Consider that strange rift you behold far upon the stygian horizon, that hangs like a terrible eye in the abyss.
>Admit your fears of the future, in particular the impending war and the bloodshed it shall bring

>>5039912
This depends on the vote and the options.
If we have 4 options of
>walk the land and spread prosperity in *insert manner here*
while the Vishnu breathe down our necks, then yes voting on all of them would not be very smart.
In this case, the only option that would actually take any time is walking on a distant planet, and even that depends on how much we actually decide to walk.
Officiating our marriage would not take enough time to fuck us over in any way, and admitting our fears and considering a strange rift cant take more then a few dozen minutes at best. Hardly the end of the world.
>Do you recall what happened last time we staredinto unknown space/weirdness?
Fair, but I doubt something like that will happen again here. That was raw chaos we made on OUR location, this is something far away.

Plus I mean, what is the rush? We armed all of Long-Jia, dug out Kanzeon, know her sister's location and warned Jinhai. We are good, we can splurge our time a little.
The only thing we haven't done was make magical artefact's, and for what it's worth I voted for that. But I'm sure we can kick Nitya's ass without it anyway.
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>>5039884
>Consider the strange rift

>Admit fears of the future.
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>>5039884
>Officiate your marriage with Kanzeon, and ask her of the past and her sisters.
>Admit your fears of the future, in particular the impending war and the bloodshed it shall bring
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>>5039884
> Consider that strange rift you behold far upon the stygian horizon, that hangs like a terrible eye in the abyss.
> Officiate your marriage with Kanzeon, and ask her of the past and her sisters.
> KISS THE GIRL
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>>5039888
Support
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>>5039882
> You also learn the existence of three more who Kanzeon had yet spoken of. One, upon a vast lake larger than any you have yet seen, named Anahita, whose has completely lost her manufactorums in her landing alongside other, anticipated injuries. The nearest sister to Anahita, named Philotes, has been sadly lost, and can only be salvaged like Kuan Im or given a new soul, though Kanzeon refuses to explain what that means. A more distant sibling, named, Albina, has also died giving her life as Philotes did, carrying her passengers to Shangrala.

Aside from figuring out the logistics of delivering vital supplies for mending Anahita's 'body', we should build a monument recording their sacrifice.

If I'm reading this right, and Kanzeon can spark new 'souls' to inhabit the shells of what were once Albina and Philotes, Lieren and Kanzeon should adopt them as their daughters.
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>>5040470
>Kanzeon can spark new 'souls' to inhabit the shells of what were once Albina and Philotes
Wonder if we can do the same to Kuan Im or if the taint is too severe.
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>>5040482
I also wonder if Albina, Anahita, and Philotes' fates would be different if we decided to learn who the other three Lords of the Celestial Courts were. Did Malal make a list of which ones would survive when he came up with the idea to have sentient colony ships on Shangrala or was it less set in stone?
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>>5040470
Hey, that's something we could do with the souls of the dai monks and the ones we fred from Kamal.
I think my theory that the sister are some sort of attempt at a updated Men of Stone have some more merit, since they have an actual soul added to them, and don't seem to entirely artificial, since humanity feared AI.
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>>5039884
>>Consider that strange rift you behold far upon the stygian horizon, that hangs like a terrible eye in the abyss.
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>>5040487
>since humanity feared AI.
Only after the Cybernetic Revolt.
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>>5039884
>Officiate your marriage with Kanzeon, and ask her of the past and her sisters.
>Consider that strange rift you behold far upon the stygian horizon, that hangs like a terrible eye in the abyss.
>Admit your fears of the future, in particular the impending war and the bloodshed it shall bring
I worry the process of granting the dead ships a new soul will be something very distasteful or outright awful.
It's good chaos shipfu is mostly fucked still, we need to blitzkrieg Nitya, drop right on top of his center of power from orbit, Have Kanzeon focus on suppressing her sister and shooting down the flying fortresses.
Al-Uzza sounds like she is dying and she is likely very vulnerable to chaos at the moment and Nitya could weaponize the thinned veil in the Shuni lands to bring in Khornate daemons or followers.
Mari is straight up holding back alone all of Nurgles mojo on Shangrala, the Bask only won the rebellion because the nurgle rulers must have been the dregs of what Nurgle had on planet, the more time passes the more likely we lose her and the planet gets overwhelmed with the absolute worst plague Nurgle can throw at it.
Huli Jing wants to do something....but having a perpetual eye on her body means she can't surprise us, so low priority at the moment.
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>>5040591
Yeah, I forgot to say that. But since Avalokiteśvara said that their creators were afraid to use true AI, they were probably built after the Men of Iron revolted.
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>>5040601
I remember her saying that she and her sisters were built to survive the Long Dark and create new human colonies. So it must have been during the during the revolt or after.
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Just wanted to toss this idea out there. In the future maybe Lieran can do a Socratic style debate against lorgar similar to how he debated that eldar? Lorgar's only actual skill was really his skill with words and I would love to see Leiran crush him in front of a horde of mortal in a debate on what is truth.
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I have a suggestion. We wait for the war to kick off then have our wife take a piece of the wreakage in space and simply drop it from orbit onto her tainted sister
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>>5040712
We're not turning the Vishnu Kingdom into a smoldering hole unless it's a last resort.
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>>5039884
>>Admit your fears of the future, in particular the impending war and the bloodshed it shall bring
>>Consider that strange rift you behold far upon the stygian horizon, that hangs like a terrible eye in the abyss.
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>>5040748
Ok fine why don't we do it to his army when it is gathered? Boom all gone
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>>5040711
I dont think Lieren will crush Lorgar. Its only his capacity to identify lies and cling unyeildingly to his belief that would let him compete
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>>5040882
Kek. That sounds like what we did to the Yan Princes.
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>>5041043
I don't think the same tactics are gonna work here. For all his anger, Nitya doesn't strike me as your typical frothing-at-the-mouth roidrage Khornate. Underestimating him is going to cost people their lives. Better for our first move to be probing strikes to get a good picture of what the oncoming war is going to entail.
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>>5041054
There is not alot anyone can do against wreakage falling from the sky to smash your army. If anything it will force him to reveal his own hand and such
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>>5041054
I agree he isnt retarded. The man managed to mask his rage, which eclipsed ours.

So he has some strategic chops, but I still think we should commit full and hard on an overwhelming first strike into his lands. Make some early gains that we can later sacrifice to draw him into a army devastating trap and then roll back forwards like a wave notion
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>>5041056
Planetary shielding was well within the realm of possibility for golden-age humanity. These people capture or create suns to use as streetlamps, they can void shield their cities.
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>>5041058
>these people capture or create suns to use as streetlamps
No they didn’t. Necrons and Eldar could but DaoT humanity were far from that level.
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>>5041062
>And that, is only what you behold at the city gates! Miniature suns, manufactured or perhaps plucked from the heavens, light the streets.
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>>5041065
You're quoting about the Eldar to refute a point about humanity why?
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>>5041075
So Nitya, Avalokiteśvara and the Vishnu are eldar now?
>>5034988
>>5034989
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>>5041091
Oh, and the post I got the part of the update from.
>>5034991
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>>5041062
106 posts without reading the quest. Impressive.
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Time to post again, i hope is well received.
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Map of the Shuni Sultanate, after the end of the liberation war against his tyrant. Unfortunately 9 of the old cities of this realm, perished because of the madness and wicked ways of the sorcerers lords. With time though, they will return to us and the vile actions of the past will be washed away by our spirits and conviction.
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The so called Journey Rebellion was the very first rifle made for the Journey Rebellion or First Liberation War. By the commoners it also received q wide range of names such as steel dragons, thunder throwers, fire spitters and more.
This rifle had seen a rapid evolution and improvement during the liberation war, from the first ones being stocky and primitive as
well being dangerous to use, to the more recent examples being easy to carry and reload. Lord Lieren, his scholars and even a few
soldiers didn't shy too modify it or create new variants for different purposes of warfare. After the rebellion end it was dismissed across the new army, and it was replaced by designed and well crafted rifles of the Long Jia.
The use of this rifles did not end when the army was assigned new models. In fact the rifle and his variants, remained in use for a short time by militias of villages and then it was exsclusively used by retired veterans, hunters and peasants. It's use was then expanded upon by the nobility in competitions, for cerimonial or religious events and lastly historical recreations. Many of them where also conserved in museums, noble houses, in the royal treasury and in the Brotherhood of the Panthers barracks.
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The Long-Jia combat rifle is the fruit of the accomplishments gained and lessons learned during the Rebellion. It completely outclasses the rebellion rifle, with his rapid fire, easy reloading and strong structure. And instead of the evolution and numerous variants of it s predecessor, is far more uniformed and it leaves more specialized combat roles to other rifles and machine guns.
With the rise of prosperity and development of new technologies though, this first rifle didn't not last long and with time it was completely replaced by far more powerful and efficient weaponry. It is still present in the civilian market, and it s often use for hunting alongside the rebellion rifle. Even there it s being replaced by far better weapons. Perhaps at the end it will remain just in museums and collections, becoming a relic of the past.
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With the ever developing progress of Shangrila, the combat rifle didn't remain the standard for too long. While great on it s own, it was obvious that it would have become obsolete quickly becoming almost irrelevant in fact, beside for training of recruits or civilian use. With new weapons tested and showed, such as energy ones with laser and plasma rifles, a desire to have a new standard rifle manifested it self. Some time would have been needed for energy weapons to become more common in the military, as such the LJ/02 proved as a good option for being a short bridge to a new age of warfare. An automatic ballistic rifle, capable of rapidly firing it s magazine, not having many issues in harsh conditions and being easy to maintain. The rifle arrived even with a series of add ones to it such as scopes and laser sights, or even with secondaries weapons attached.
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>>5041214

A new weapon, for a new age. The Heaven Flame is the latest infantry weapon made by the great minds of the Kingdom. The rays produced melt through steel and concrete at a speed that our eyes have an hard time following, and their impact is more than enough to knock a man down. It s provided with several slots for armored energy batteries, that provide energy to the hungry internal machinery and the crystal used for create the rays. This batteries provide energy for dozens of shots and are rechargeable, and with their protective encasings a soldier doesn't need to fear their immediate malfunction if they are hit or fall on the ground. If the weapon risks to overheat it is possible to allow it to expel the excessive heat accumulated outside.
The gun comes with new add ons, but the standard one is equipped with a scope for medium-long range firefights and a ripper, a far more devastating melee weapon than a simple bayonet, one that can pierce through armor and open up meat and bones. The main disadvantage of it, is that it needs its own energy to function, but otherwise is far more dangerous than a simple bayonet in melee.
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The very first chendao was a simple weapon, capable of firing larger rounds than any rebellion rifle ever could, and with a blade that could tear apart dozens of men with ease. The weapon was one of the first, Lord Lieren designed for his own use. It's simple but it already shows some symbolism used at first in the village of Nothing, that will then become more common across the entirety of the journey rebellion forces. It’s baptism of fire was when Lieren first used it against the Dragon Toad, a foul magical beast made reality by the powers of the lords of hell and their hordes of evil spirits. Suffice to say this titan of cruelty was but destroyed and removed from existence thanks to this weapon.
The further study of weaponry and the use of this chendao, allowed Lord Lieren to create new designs of it and thanks to his scholars prepared them for the war.
Obviously this ancestor to the modern chendao’s (be the ones used by heavy infantry or astartes), has been preserved and kept to safety. Due to the technological level the kingdom of Yan was at time, this first model can be considered a strange mixture of feudal and more advanced human technology.
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>>5041216
A new type of chendao, and the first that the “Gentle Giant” and the “Goddess of the Forest” were able to produce on large scale as well create a version for human use (thus creating our famous chendao heavy infantry). The power of this type of chendao is simply devastating, being able to pierce with ease inside walls and buildings, and creating bloodbaths of the foe forces. The rapidity with which the weapon fired surpassed even the field gatlings employed by the rebellion, making a mockery of the forces of the Yan. Its true test of battle was against other magical beasts and evil spirits, and even there it proved remarkable : cutting skin and muscles, pulverizing bones and liquifying organs. Suffice to say new models are being developed out of the assault variant improving upon it or making even more powerful weapons, tests for different types of rounds have also been made.
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Evolved from the field gatling of the journey rebellion, the Liberation Bringer Gatling is an advanced rapid firing ballistic weapon delivering a storm of high explosive bullets on our foes. It is used in forts, defensive positions, mounted on vehicles or given to heavy infantry units. It's very first use was during the liberation war against the Tyrant of the Vishnu people, may his name never be honored, Nitya Shinya the blood worm.
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The Power Daos of the Yan. What incredible weapons. Their advanced construction and craftsmanship is nothing short of spectacular. These weapons remained previously in the royal treasury of the kingdom, before they were granted to the two princelings of the Pig King of Yan. With them they hoped to strike at our great lord, but they paid the price of their arrogance and disgusting deeds with a quick death. And thus these weapons of our glorious past, returned to hands more worthy and fitting to use them.
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The banners of Long Jia, the union between a house of nobles and a guard made hero, from hero made general, and at last king and emperor. Such union was blessed, and the banner that represented them even more so, One worthy to serve under, one worthy to spend blood for, one worthy to see in the sky and among ranks of men and machines ! The carp and the dragon ! But some imperial warriors and courtesans while liking the banner, thought of something more than an union, no they wanted a banner of one. A banner that would be the culmination of the carp and dragon they served with absolute loyalty and devotion. And thus when the dragons and other mythical creatures returned upon Shangrila from the heavens above, signing the ascension of the Long Jia across all peoples of the world, this warriors and courtesans arrived to the Emperor Jinhai and Empress Daiyu presenting and gifting them what they thought would fit as a new imperial banner. It was a majestic dragon carp, the fusion of their two symbols, at the side of the animal two spheres where placed each with the symbol of the Journey adorning them, and each with the energies of Yang and Ying . The group waited with anticipation for the answer of their lieges, and the rest is story ..
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The White Lotus society, founded by Lieren at the end of the rebellion, is an organization of volunteers with the purpose of giving mainly medical aid, food and water, alongside other basic needs such as education.
It's completely founded by the Gentle Giant, and donations of citizens and the state. At first it was made up by a few professional doctors, scholars and many volunteers with no noteworthy medical experience. They had access to basic but simple equipment as well as tents where to operate, and no structures at all. With the end of the rebellion things rapidly changed, and with the intervention and direct aid of Lady Kazeon this organization has spread and expanded in all of the realm. Advanced medical technology and books are now provided to his members, and schools and academies are opening so that they may become even more knowledgeable and experienced.
Their volunteers and medics can be found across all the empire, as well even in the battle lines, though white lotus members are usually not full fledged soldiers and thus prefer to operate in the backlines while gathering any wounded they can find.
Yet another worthy gift for Shangrila and all of mankind among the stars
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Peace brought much change, but so did sciences and experience gained during the wars.
The White Lotus now was one of the largest organizations on Shangrila, with a great reach and that was attending to the great work of bringing education across the whole world. They didn't stop there either, working on solutions for old and new diseases, as well poisons and venoms such as the artificial ones used by the despised dark eldars or commoraghs, whatever foul name they deserve the most. Universities and Academies were fundamental for shape in both theory and practice for numerous medics, doctors and nurses. But so were the new laboratories that created and refined new drugs, vaccines and other medicines for many uses.
The value of the first White Lotus volunteers and medics had proved simply invaluable during the rebellion, and later during the liberation wars. Dedicated medics and nurses alongside volunteers that aided the army, avoiding several deaths, and more importantly unneeded amputations or other crude forms of healing.
The organization, besides spreading itself in the educational and scientific sectors, decided to accept entering a program with the army and other military institutions of Shangrila.
This program had the objective to introduce a new type of soldier to the battlefields, combat medics. While the members of the White Lotus were useful already, many of them knew only simple defense and were not soldiers by any means, thus they were vulnerable to the enemies. A figure that was both a professional soldier and medic became essential, and the program results were successful bringing yet another boon to the military.
In regard to the equipment they use, it's portable and light allowing for the combat medics to bring more medical supplies and drugs with them. Their armor is also designed to aid them in their field operations with tools and functions of different kinds, furthermore the armor is provided with much internal storage for bringing more medical supplies and tools.
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"The Journey teaches us that excess and wild abandon are to be avoided and discarded. We have done so, the adopted people of the bone devouring forest, sons and daughters of the Gentle Giant and the Goddess of the Forest, tiger-kin and many other names. Now we choose to accompany our honored father and uncles to war, we bring them our strength and we show our worth ! RISE MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS ! THIS IS MERELY JUST ANOTHER TRIAL OF OUR PATH ! LET US DELIVER DEATH AND RUIN TO THIS ENEMIES OF SHANGRILA !"
- Captain Sandip vox speech, pre-imperium age, the tigermen deployment on the world of --//01-//

The tigermen, or more exactly for the time, their childrens, kept growing during the wars of liberation under the watchful eyes of their adoptive father and mother, as well a cadre of scholars, doctors and brotherhood members. Alas despite their frequent requests, protests and even attempts to sneak out of their school they did not see or participate in the wars upon Shangrila.
But, be it for fear or hope, while they waited for the return of the ones they hold dear to their hearts, they pushed themselves in their education and training, perhaps thus thinking they could shorten the time of their education and be allowed to run towards the battle lines.
Fortunately for us this did not happen, and they were kept safe. At the end of their education, several years later after the last liberation war, they finished their educational path. And how proud were their teachers, family and the peoples of Shangrila itself that great day. Many of the tigermen had different ideas on what to accomplish in their lives, but many had a warrior call in their blood and wanted to repay in war the love and care that had been given to them. They joined the brotherhood and the army, elite troops : heavy infantry, guerilla and assault for name a few.
Mighty equipment and weapons were granted to them, fashioned and designed to be used by humans of their sizes and strengths. Their feats in future battles were nothing less than legendary, and they accomplished many things for our fair world. Indeed their loyalty and devotion to Lieren, the Journey and Shangrila inspired many among the masses and nobles.
This can be hardly seen in other worlds of man, where instead ab-humans are hated or considered second class citizens at best (something that is unbelievable in the eyes of our people). But the tigermen and their integration and role in Shangrila, have shown to all the imperium of man that they are our brothers and sisters, and that they would gladly give their lives for them if they do the same.
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While Dandan Tao the “Lady of the Firestorm”, perfected and expanded further upon artillery, Master Inventor and Imperial Scholar Shirong was excited in working towards the creation of new machines and vehicles. One of these was a machine capable of flying, like in legends of old and impossible dreams of those days. But thanks to the aid of the Gentle Giant and no small amount of lessons and safety corrections by the Lady of the Forest, such a distant dream was achievable. At first with simple vehicles that weren't able to fly for long and needed to fly nearby for a safe landing with the ever present fog. Then at last, the design we see today was made. A marvel of technology and one that truly could be called a Steel Bird, as perhaps romantically (a few suggested) it resembled the 4 winged swallow symbol of House Tao. The vehicle is quite agile and fast, while being still difficult to destroy even with advanced energy weapons. It's weapons are a mix : from missiles, to energy weapons, to cannons and gatlings. Often modified for different uses and missions. But more importantly of all, the Steel Bird can move in the fogs of Shangrila without losing itself, this is done thanks to newly made vision systems and cameras. The steel bird has space for only one pilot and can be considered a fighter class.
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The most based man alive post once again.
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The wanderers of the fog role became quite important for the empire of Long Jia, as well the peoples of Shangrila. After purging the influences of the remaining evil spirits, dark sorcerers and magical beasts that escaped away in the wilderness from justice, the wanderers had much to do.
They brought further the words of the Journey across the world, and they welcomed in their ranks alone psykers without guidance, some even brought by their families with only few harms that happened between them and allowing them to remain in contact with their kin. With the new amounts of adepts, the first monastery was further expanded and new ones were founded in oasis and heavens of peace and quiet, which were now many thanks to nature being treated well and not mistreated and abused.
The monasteries became even cultural and linguistic centers, as it was from here that the first men and women of Long Jia learned and began to speak Prosperean, New Varroican, Ancient Terran (learned from the astral egg of Lord Lieren, as well the vast and ancient knowledge of Lady Kanzeon) and a few Eldar dialects with the one of the Khs Ys craftworld being more prevalent. The dialect used by the vile dark eldar was learned by few and it was mainly given to the military academies for use in interrogation, spying and counter espionage, such this dialect was abhorrent to use that it found little other purposes.
Of course the wanderers didn’t stop just at this, they worked further for refine their psykerism techniques and knowledge working with the distant Prosperean, while being guided by the two giants, the older masters of the sects and the honored new members of the wanderers (as well journeymen) of the party of farseer Carys.
It became vital for them to understand how to avoid again for evil spirits to invade reality and enslave it, it was also necessary to see if more benevolent spirits could be found and perhaps made allies. Some even thought of ideas to strike at such a foe, but they didn’t see any way to accomplish it. The lords of hells disposed of endless legions and even larger realms, but they weren't rulers of all of it. It was difficult to think that any decisive victory could be gained against them.
Still good news arrived after the end of the liberation wars, a period of peace and prosperity started in Shangrila. And with it new technology and equipment, designed and specifically made for the wanderers was made and granted to them, by the empire and their grandmaster Lieren, the price was to simply continue what they where doing, as well aid the imperial army and the empire at large.
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thanks, i am glad you like them. There are a few more.
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This armor is specifically made for be used by a psyker. The design both external and internal, is made for aid the user to be calm and concentrated, other manner of devices for psykers are installed across all of the armor to better protect them against sorcery and the influence of evil, or to further amplify and control their own powers. In the helmet a series of small crystals refined and tuned to be used by a psyker are installed, glowing more and more as the psyker unleashes its powers on our foes. Special staffs to channel their powers have also been gifted to the wanderers, alongside other types of weaponry even if more simple and mundane. The armor itself is filled with decorations, and much clothing is placed around it outside, one of these is the traditional hat of the order now often associated with them and more importantly grandmaster Guozhi's own hat.
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Upon the eve of the strike against the Tyrant of the Shuni Kamal Kanan, Shirong presented to Lieren a prototype tank. This was one of the first ever seen again in the world. This Iron Turtle is a track moving vehicle, with heavy armor and armed with two energy guns alongside a small autocannon. The energy weapons are plasma ones, with one being the main weapon and the other a turret on the top of the heavy armored vehicle. The Iron Turtle while at first could be considered slow as its name suggests, it’s still more than capable than running into battle and pursuing its foes while crushing anything in his way. The Plasma weaponry it uses permits the tank to deliver great punishment on our foes, making their fortifications and vehicles nothing but scrap metal and rubble. Other versions of the Iron Turtle are being considered, as the option of replacing the tracks with an hovering moving system is quite possible even if it would require modifications to ensure the tank can provide energy even to this new machinery installed.
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The symbol of craftworld Kher Ys, a powerful shield surrounded and enveloped by chains that resembles folded wings. Little was known of this place, they were a people that walked away even from their own kin and allies. But even if they wanted to remain frozen in time forever, it wouldn’t have been possible even to the most secretive of craftworlds or exodite worlds.. It was fortunate that their destiny crossed with the Journey and Lieren. The arrival of the Journey among their brethren was a bit of a shock for them, how could a philosophy made by humans be accepted and adopted so easily, they thought to themselves. Inevitably they would have seen the worthy of it, and the Journey word would have reached further and further.The eldars of Carys were the ones to spread it across the Eldars. An universal message that presented itself to all peoples, bringing a pure light and a wind of hope. That light and wind would have soon made their way in this distant craftworld, as a recovered soulstone of a Farseer returned by none other than Lord Lieren, would have brought the message of the journey inside the gargantuan spaceship-city. This farseer, Amaethon became friend of Lieren and while they had a short time to talk with, it was one well spent and used in which much was learned from each other.

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And the last one. Sorry for taking this space all for me. And malal, as always if you want modifications to the yan map (now long jia) tell me, same for shuni ecc... I will try and make something decent, and similar to the result you want. Seems my id changed again.
List for next ones, though i can t be sure to make all of them :

- Old armor of Jinhai (either Gao Guard or Brotherhood one) and New armor of Jinhai
- Kanzeon space ship
- All the other avatars of the sister AI-ships (Al-Uzza, Avalokiteśvara, Mari, Kuam Im, Anahita, Philotes and Albina)
- The Creti Wardens, The Seowl Rangers, and The Suomit Ursine Guard
- More simple images/memes, stuff like the view from the road or Guozhi drinking Tea with Wenyan
- Bask War Banner
- Bask Knight
- Settlements/City maps ?
- Attempts for evil spirits/magical beasts
- More animals, vehicles, weapons, armors and so on
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And also i have found this very cool artist, that made this incredible image of the primarchs. What s cool is that they are all in their armors with helmets on, which since most of the time we see them without an helmet is very nice.
Here is the link for the artist and the image.

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/oAqoQW
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Some ideas are banners for the new Shuni lords, I think there are 3 or 4 right?
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Oh right there are those as well. Yeah you should be correct, though i didn t remember to copy and paste their names+description. So i will need to find them again. Thanks for the reminder though.
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Calling the vote now. Sorry for the wait.

Consider that strange rift you behold far upon the stygian horizon, that hangs like a terrible eye in the abyss.:16
- THE RED STAR: 2

Admit your fears of the future, in particular the impending war and the bloodshed it shall bring:11

Officiate your marriage with Kanzeon, and ask her of the past and her sisters.:16

Take your walk through the stars to a nearby planet, and satiate your scholarly curiosity.:1

Kiss:1

Total votes:20

So Lieren will consider the strange rift on the horizon, admit his fears of the future and the war to come, and officate his wedding with Kanzeon before asking her of the past/ her sisters

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Great work as always anon. I especially like the Long Jia Banner, the carp dragon just looks so fucking cool. Just love it

Also really like Kher Ys' sigil. Good work all around
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Thanks malal
And I am glad you like both of the two war banners. The Kher Ys one and the banner of the Lords of the Stellar Hunt have a nice contrast, when they are put near eachother don t you think ?
Btw if you have any idea/suggestion for the Vishnu map, the Shuni one, a Bask banner, the ones of the Shuni new noble houses feel free any time. Or anything else for that matter. Of course is not a duty, i can just take most info i need from the quest posts. Or ask you if there is lack of info, on a particular point. Like the Craftworld symbol.
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And then a cloud of sorrow, grief and dread fall upon your mind like floodwater, banishing the pleasant blissful thoughts you had enjoyed in Kanzeon's company. The future, unknowable to men even those who trust in prophecies and divinations as though they were honest facts. Like the clouds of crimson gasses that flow between Shangrala and the orbits of its distant siblings, the world of men is soon to be drowned in a red sea. A sea of blood. Innocent blood. Blood of the wrongfully slain spilt in the name of the ambitions of two lunatics who could on their own wreak havoc upon all nations of Shangrala, all her people! And even trouble the noble armies of Space Marines spun from your and Magnus' flesh and blood! The most terrible opponents you've yet faced! The most villainous of enemies that have risen against you, seeking to end your pleasant dream for the prosperity of mankind, even if it were to last but a singular generation.

Doubt, fear, worry. Like burrowing insects they dig their way into your thoughts, rooting themselves in your brain like so many acupuncture needles. Needles that have been left to heat on the edge of a hearth! It cannot be avoid, ignored or cleansed from your thoughts. Like a sickness, like an infection, fear washes over you, sowing doubt and dread in its passing. Like seeds carried upon storm winds.

Kanzeon immediately notices the shift in your mood, and the change in your expression. The instant she realizes you've become upset and fearful, she pulls you into her arms and holds you against her chest, bowing her head as her hair falls around you like a veil.

"My love, There is no shame in admitting a weakness of the heart. tell me, what is troubling you, Oh valiant hero of prosperity" She coos, brushing the back of her hand across your temple as you close your eyes and slowly draw in a breath, releasing it just as ponderously.

"The future. Hearing you speak of it made me realize, that before the year is ended war shall return to Long-Jia and her people. I fear for them, I fear that casualties will be incomprehensible in number yet unavoidable in nature" You admit, voice wavering as bitter tears cascade down your cheeks, falling against Kanzeon's bossom as she keeps you in her pleasantly warming, and supremely soothing embrace "When I close my eyes, I can see the faces of my friends, my family, my followers, my companions in life and death! Twisted in horror! Contorted in agony! Mutilated and bloody! When I close my eyes, I see Kong Nue's eyes and his sneering grin, as he exults in the horror his servants have spawned, the slaughter they carry out! I see the valleys and canyons of peaceful Shangrala awash with seas of blood and gore. I fear for my father's arrival, I fear meeting magnus face to face. I fear the expectations of my kin! I fear my father, Wenyan's pacing! Fear Guozhi's as well! I know, whether by violence or the unavoidable march of time I am soon to lose my most beloved of mentors and my father"
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Kanzeon dries your tears with a small handkerchief of silk, a sorrowful look passing by her eyes before finding a place to rest within her solemn frown.

"Death is unavoidable, and I to fear the violence my wayward bitch of a sister intends to incite. But, all that can be done is to fight back, resist, and protect what you can. I know you still grieve Small Chen, though there was no way for you to prevent his passing" Kanzeon whispers, pressing her head to yours tenderly "You cannot save everyone. Death is natural. Do not blame yourself for the bloodshed to come, instead kill the bastard who will relish in it, and show the parasites of the warp they made a grave mistake targeting MY sisters."

"Your advice is sound, but I cannot change my perspective or quiet my fear. The future is soaked in blood and tragedy. Good men will die dogs' deaths. And I dread that among them will be those men and women I consider as family, whose passing will be as a knife stabbed through one of my hearts" You bemoan, gripping the fabric of Kanzeon's robes by the nape of her neck "The butcher lord bares his fangs and claws, and they will find purchase in the flesh of the innocent and defenseless. My heart grieves! For those I cannot save! I know a war without death is impossible, that averting the inevitable cannot be done. That men will die! But I cannot help but to fear the coming of this tragedy! Cannot help but to mourn them already"

"I know Lieren, its one of your charm points" Kanzeon says quietly "You're existence is driven by a love for humanity, a love as true and deep as the one we share together. All your conviction, your ideals, your beliefs are spurned on by the affection you have for mankind. It'd be out of character for you not to weep knowing those you cherish are to be injured or even killed. That is your strongest virtue, Love and a desire to protect that which you love"

Love. The word bolsters your spirits, uplifting them. Kanzeon's gentle words have renewed and greatly empowered you convictions, allowing you to cast off the shroud of sorrow aided by your love for her and humanity in general.

"Let us be wed" You say, opening your eyes so suddenly as to further the shock that shoots through Kanzeon's heart at the moment of your declaration, causing her to look away, cheeks glowing with a lovely cherry petal radiance "With you at my side, I know I will be unable to fail"

"Romantic fool" She mutters, flicking your forehead before glancing away again, adorably bashful "think about the atmosphere before you say something like that, not that I am opposed to the suggestion but..."

"But?" You question, maneuvering to try and stare into her eyes, mostly because her every growing embarrassment amuses you greatly.

"Wenyan would never forgive us if we had a ceremony without out him, or his blessing though the old man is sure to give it as willingly as he makes light of it" Kanzeon says with a giggle, shaking her head
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"Lets make it an engagement instead, until we can have proper ceremony that we're certain won't be interrupted by a horde of rabid blood mad berserks"

"A promise I'll hold you to" You say with a satisfied smile and shrug of your shoulders, as your mind turns away from the future and heads in the opposite direct, towards the past, and finds curiosity rather than terror "Kanzeon, could you tell me of your past and family? I know we do not talk of them often, as it is painful for you but"

Kanzeon's eyes glaze over, the lights of her true body dim and suddenly shift to a deep and depressing shade of blue. The air ceases flowing and grows a little stagnant before a slow, rattling sigh reverberates through the metal walls of your lover.

"We were...my kind was created through what I consider to be the greatest atrocity mankind has yet committed against itself. We are the inheritors of a great catastrophe that nearly ended humanity. Amaethon mistook me for one of my kind's predecessors" Kanzeon sadly explains "The Men of Iron, True artificial intelligence. Mankind relied on its creations in every faucet of society and life. As beings of pure logic, it did not take the whole of the Iron race to come to the conclusion and realize that they were superior to their masters and that their father race was no longer needed. An so the whole of the galaxy bled"

Kanzeon sighs again, her breath rushing through every hall of her body.

"The twenty third millennium, the cybernetic war, destruction and anarchy at a universal scale. Humanity was joined by other races, who abandoned us in time" Kanzeon continues on bitterly "My records contain...glimpses of this war. The mechanivores, Sun Snuffers, omniphages and billions of other varieties of weapons more terrible than any my sister has given to Nitya Sinha as wedding presents. The Men of Iron lost, but the age of strife and Long night followed. My kind was born, in the brief span where it seemed as though order would return and mundanity would rule once more, that the wounds would heal buuuut"

The lights flicker red, yellow and orange as a grinding can be heard deep within Kanzeon's machinery, like she was clenching her jaw and gnashing her teeth together.

"Then the eldar fucked it all up, literally" She states emotionlessly "Before it all went wrong, and the alliance broke apart because of the eldar's hedonistic ways, An oath was sworn to never again make the like of the men of iron and risk another war that would leave....literally countless lifeforms dead, whole planets and solar systems wiped from the map and damages that are still being suffered by the whole of reality today and so"

the light turn so dark, Kanzeon's insides appear as dark as the void beyond her protective shielding.

"We were made. Pure logic cannot be trusted, but stellar travel cannot be trusted to fragile human minds, especially considering the dangers of the empyrean. But, the poor men of stone were all wiped out,"
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" and the men of gold had taken the secrets of their creation to their grave. So humanity turned inward, took shortcuts, looking for servitors that could be trusted and inexpensive to make" Kanzeon whispers, the whole of her hull shuddering "After all, human life was far less valuable than other expendable resources, and man no longer feared traveling through the Empyrean. Why would they? the men of stone's immunity to the depredation of its inhabitants had made them less warry of the dangers and they had found methods to all but remove the threat that yet remained, in their minds at least. Again, Eldar."

Her avatar shook her head and stared out at the stars

"Methods both you and your father use, at least a form of it but I am avoiding answering the question I know your asking" Kanzeon muttered, still shaking her head "I misled you, since we met. I am no machine. At least not as I pretended to be. The Lotus Scepter, the technology it uses, was used to create me and my siblings. If you leave it implanted in a living being, long enough. It will not only draw out their memories but their very soul"

Kanzeon's eyes narrowed

"If you forcefully combine several...many of these stolen souls, and refine them in first a psionic crucible to birth a new existence from their combined essence, and then force the new conglomerated soul to inhabit a digital code. You produce a half life, like the men of stone, a ghost in the machine, but unlike the men of iron, it exists beyond logic. Because it is human" Kanzeon says as if ashamed, hiding her eyes to keep you from seeing her cry "That is what I am, what all of my sisters are. Artificially empowered human souls turned into code and data! Created through the mass sacrifice of..."

She pauses and bows her head

"I need to calm down, regain my composure. I'll...tell you of my sisters, living, dead and how they were once I've...calmed myself down' Kanzeon whispers "I just need some time to vent, and don't want to burden you with my angst"

You reach out for her, but she has already walked through a newly made opening in the wall and vanished as the corridor is cast in a sorrowful blue.

Sighing, and filled with guilt and more questions than before. You gaze out at the cosmos and notice a curious rift in its horizon. Like a terrible eye hanging in the stygian abyss of space.

A sudden pain flickers through your forehead. It's a rift in this reality and the world of spirits. You realized that as Kanzeon spoke of the Eldar's folly, she was staring directly at it.

Frowning, deeply upset you consider the eye.
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And what do you do, Lieren?

>Look deeper into the eye until you feel something looking back, and make a very rude gesture at it

>Wander Kanzeon, trying to comfort her with your words. After all, your father is a similar being to herself, is he not?

>Wonder who else may be looking at the terrible eye, and allow your mind and spirit to wander upon that thought. Perhaps you will meet one of them?

>Realize the war you fear is nothing compared to the one waged by the Men of Iron, and with peace of mind returned, approach the Nitya Sinha problem with a clear mind

>Write in

You have NO IDEA how long I've been waiting to reveal that.
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>>Wander Kanzeon, trying to comfort her with your words. After all, your father is a similar being to herself, is he not?
Dad'll be fine with her then, right? Right?

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Pic very much related.
Also, now we gotta decide whether or not having ship daughters is worth mass sacrifice. Maybe we could use clones? It's still really iffy.
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>Wander Kanzeon, trying to comfort her with your words. After all, your father is a similar being to herself, is he not?

>Wonder who else may be looking at the terrible eye, and allow your mind and spirit to wander upon that thought. Perhaps you will meet one of them?


BROTHERRRRRRRRR, I wonder if this is gonna be another quest where Pert's btfo and forgotten.
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>>Wander Kanzeon, trying to comfort her with your words. After all, your father is a similar being to herself, is he not?
>>Wonder who else may be looking at the terrible eye, and allow your mind and spirit to wander upon that thought. Perhaps you will meet one of them?
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>I wonder if this is gonna be another quest where Pert's btfo and forgotten.
Malal would never do that to best boy.
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Your right, Mangus wasn't left to rot and actually had character development/existance.

Pert might have a chance too with Malal being a good author.
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>Look at the eye until you feel something look back, and make a rude gesture at it.

>Wander Kanzeon and comfort her "did you not tell me it is not weakness to confess what ails you? Let me comfort you as you have me"
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>>Wonder who else may be looking at the terrible eye, and allow your mind and spirit to wander upon that thought. Perhaps you will meet one of them?
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>Wander Kanzeon, trying to comfort her with your words. After all, your father is a similar being to herself, is he not?
>Realize the war you fear is nothing compared to the one waged by the Men of Iron, and with peace of mind returned, approach the Nitya Sinha problem with a clear mind
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>Wander Kanzeon, trying to comfort her with your words. After all, your father is a similar being to herself, is he not?

>Wonder who else may be looking at the terrible eye, and allow your mind and spirit to wander upon that thought. Perhaps you will meet one of them?
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We do have the already half chewed souls of dai monks who can't reincarnate by themselves anymore, and maybe tge ones that fled Kamal.
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> you and your sisters were made with the greatest and yet the cruelest way possible. That you may yet stand scarred, whole and dedicated to mankind exhibits your strength of character.

That you are kind and forgiving despite all that's happened shows the the true beauty supply of your spirit. I love you. Now more than ever.
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>>Wander Kanzeon, trying to comfort her with your words. After all, your father is a similar being to herself, is he not?
>>Wonder who else may be looking at the terrible eye, and allow your mind and spirit to wander upon that thought. Perhaps you will meet one of them?
>>Realize the war you fear is nothing compared to the one waged by the Men of Iron, and with peace of mind returned, approach the Nitya Sinha problem with a clear mind
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Well if sacrifices choose to be sacrificed can Lieren really stop them?
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>>5041534
I'm pretty excited for his take on the more stubbornly flawed of our brothers, ones like Lion, Curze, and Morty. And for the other ones who get shafted when it comes to writing, like Ferrus and Corax.
>>5041556
Oh shit, we finally have some impetus to address that issue. I was thinking about protection and mother goddesses that we can use as namesakes, to keep with that theme. Maybe Cybele for Philotes' successor, Chenrézik for Kuan Im's, and Rhiannon or Suleviae for Albina's? Tried to keep with what I'm assuming the inspirations for their regions to be.
>>5041564
>Well if sacrifices choose to be sacrificed can Lieren really stop them?
Probably, yeah. But if they're volunteering he might not, especially if they have some terminal illness or something.
>Well the biggest problem with Pert is he's literally his own worst enemy.
Pert's biggest problem is inconsistent writing, BL authors do him dirty by not reading what's been written before.
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>>5041505
>Wonder who else may be looking at the terrible eye, and allow your mind and spirit to wander upon that thought. Perhaps you will meet one of them?
>Write In
Meditate like we had done in the past, here above the world we love looking over it become still and look inward once again
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>>5041505
>>Look deeper into the eye until you feel something looking back, and make a very rude gesture at it

>>Wonder who else may be looking at the terrible eye, and allow your mind and spirit to wander upon that thought. Perhaps you will meet one of them?

I want to troll the eye of terror please.
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>>5041505
>Wander Kanzeon, trying to comfort her with your words. After all, your father is a similar being to herself, is he not?
>Wonder who else may be looking at the terrible eye, and allow your mind and spirit to wander upon that thought. Perhaps you will meet one of them?
>Realize the war you fear is nothing compared to the one waged by the Men of Iron, and with peace of mind returned, approach the Nitya Sinha problem with a clear mind
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>>5041505
>>Wander Kanzeon, trying to comfort her with your words. After all, your father is a similar being to herself, is he not?
>>Wonder who else may be looking at the terrible eye, and allow your mind and spirit to wander upon that thought. Perhaps you will meet one of them?
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>>5041505
>Wander Kanzeon, trying to comfort her with your words. After all, your father is a similar being to herself, is he not?
>Wonder who else may be looking at the terrible eye, and allow your mind and spirit to wander upon that thought. Perhaps you will meet one of them?
Tempted to have Lieren tell the inhabitants of the eye to fuck off but it seems out of character and without any meaningful purpose.
Seems I was right that safe AI came with a horrible cost in mass human sacrifice, theoretically volunteers, shards of human souls spared from the predators of the warp, and Lieren and others connected to the golden sea all contributing a safe small portion of their souls can be used to fully replace the lost ships and maybe make more in the future but the devil is always in the details.
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>>5041505
>Wander Kanzeon, trying to comfort her with your words. After all, your father is a similar being to herself, is he not?

>Wonder who else may be looking at the terrible eye, and allow your mind and spirit to wander upon that thought. Perhaps you will meet one of them?

Both, if not either are fine with me
>>5041572
Like your idea of coming up with successors once we find their resting places, though we should share the idea with our beloved for some insight on her potential nices
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>>5041505
>>Wonder who else may be looking at the terrible eye, and allow your mind and spirit to wander upon that thought. Perhaps you will meet one of them?
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>>5041505
>Wander Kanzeon, trying to comfort her with your words. After all, your father is a similar being to herself, is he not?

>Wonder who else may be looking at the terrible eye, and allow your mind and spirit to wander upon that thought. Perhaps you will meet one of them?
BROOOOOOOOO!
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>>5041513
>Dad'll be fine with her then, right? Right?
She's technically human, and part man of stone (the good kind of A.I.), so I think so. Man this is a relief, we wont have to go through the effort of creating her a soul, all those threads ago.

>>5041556
My god, with what Kanzeon had just told us, maybe theres a chance we can reincarnated them after all. We can do it fellas! I dunno if they'll be in a ship, but we can certainly put them in something. Maybe a humanoid sized flesh body, or a titan with a remote control body like Kanzeon. The skies the limit. Hmmmm well actually theres the moral dilemma if it's right or wrong to do such a thing. I think we should ask Kanzeon and our psyker mentor if it's okay to reincarnated the monk soul fragments.

>>5041561
+1

>>5041564
I agree. He literally has Primarch autism. Even if he got the opportunity to build whatever he wanted and flex his creative outlets, or study Necron technology, hes still a man child. He would still be (you), but if we can really sit down and talk with him I think he would be, at the very least slightly less dickish.
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>>5041505
>Wander Kanzeon, trying to comfort her with your words. After all, your father is a similar being to herself, is he not?
Comfort the (future) wife, as she did us.
>Wonder who else may be looking at the terrible eye, and allow your mind and spirit to wander upon that thought. Perhaps you will meet one of them?
Holy shit, I was not expecting this to be an option. Maybe there is hope after all.
>Realize the war you fear is nothing compared to the one waged by the Men of Iron, and with peace of mind returned, approach the Nitya Sinha problem with a clear mind
A little self reflection can't hurt.
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>>5041505
>>5041561
Support.

>Wander Kanzeon, trying to comfort her with your words. After all, your father is a similar being to herself, is he not?
>Mention the stray Dai monks' souls that fought with us against Huli Jing aka SS Kuan Im in the capital.

I really want to do all the things. So I vote for all the things, especially this thing.

>Wonder who else may be looking at the terrible eye, and allow your mind and spirit to wander upon that thought. Perhaps you will meet one of them?
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>>5041505
>>Wander Kanzeon, trying to comfort her with your words. After all, your father is a similar being to herself, is he not?
>>Wonder who else may be looking at the terrible eye, and allow your mind and spirit to wander upon that thought. Perhaps you will meet one of them?
>>Realize the war you fear is nothing compared to the one waged by the Men of Iron, and with peace of mind returned, approach the Nitya Sinha problem with a clear mind

Nice update

>>5041513
Having some daughters and sons would be nice, thought we will need to think about it after we are at peace (and we have some more free time for us. There is still much to do after this war. Repairing the war damages, collecting the war loot, repairing the rest of the sisters, uniting shangrila, bringing prosperity ecc....)
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>>5041855
Don't forget the actual marriage ceremony.
It would be a good celebration for the people of Shangrila, having the two kind giants marrying for the new age of prosperity after a bloody war.
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>>5041505
>Wander Kanzeon, trying to comfort her with your words. After all, your father is a similar being to herself, is he not?
>Wonder who else may be looking at the terrible eye, and allow your mind and spirit to wander upon that thought. Perhaps you will meet one of them?
>Realize the war you fear is nothing compared to the one waged by the Men of Iron, and with peace of mind returned, approach the Nitya Sinha problem with a clear mind
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>>5041855
>Having some daughters and sons would be nice
We already have tens of thousands of sons, I think three daughters are needed to even things out.
>the rest
Yeah, that's a given. Though repairing damages isn't something we have to directly oversee now and uniting Shangrala was never our goal (just spreading prosperity and toppling tyrants). I actually want to pitch Shunni independence to Jinhai once we beat the Vishnu and contact the other three nations. A council of leaders would be much more to Lieren's taste than one man ruling the entire planet.
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>>5041505
Flipping off Chaos doesn't have nearly as much weight when the worst insult one can offer them is walking away.
> Wonder who else may be looking at the terrible eye, and allow your mind and spirit to wander upon that thought. Perhaps you will meet one of them?
Must acquire more siblings!


>Wander Kanzeon, trying to comfort her with your words. After all, your father is a similar being to herself, is he not?
Gotta be a good husband to Best Girl.

>>5041534
Yisss.

>>5041572
I do like those names for daughters; it'll also help disguise them in the future if we name some of the various ships in our Legion's fleets after old goddesses. It'll be difficult for traitors to target the 'living vessels' of the 2nd when there's a fucking list of names to work through.

Also
> Pert's biggest problem is inconsistent writing, BL authors do him dirty by not reading what's been written before.
Yee speak the truth.

>>5041690
All in all, I'm really liking that Lieren is a really effective foible and foil to the likes of Magnus, Perturbo and maybe eventually Lorgar, Mortarion and Angron. I don't really know what we can do for Konrad though.
> inb4 Lieren causes an Alt-Heresy because he turns the traitor Primarchs against Chaos
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>>5041906
>I do like those names for daughters
Right after I posted those I did a deep dive on Hellenic, Celtic, and Chinese mother/fertility goddesses. Here's the fruit of that;
>Chinese
Nüwa/Wahuang
Xiwangmu/Seiōbo
Qiongxiao Niangniang
Songzi Niangniang
Seiōbo is Japanese, but so is Kanzeon. I'm assuming her and Kuan Im both carried the people who would become the people of Long-Jia/Yan
>Hellenic
Atana Potnia
Cybele
Britomartis/Dictynna
Themis
Eleuthyia
Atargatis
Ma
Quiritis
Theia
>Celtic
Rhiannon
Suleviae
Nehalennia
Modron/Matrona
We could also consider any variation of Morgana and Nimue, since those'll be more Brittonic than broadly Celtic like the other names. I'd also like to see which Chaos God influences each nation before picking.
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>>5041907
Fuck, I forgot about Nuwa, and she is one of my favorite chinese gods.
If we ever get around to it, that is what I will vote for.
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Why's it always daughter's with you fags?

Every quest with daughterus goes exactly the same

>stare angrily at all boys getting near her
>shovel talk bullshit
>she's a perfect Mary Sue with no flaws
>she's a lesbean because no man is worthy of MY WAI-i mean daughter

I am a son advocate, fuck daughterfags and their stereotypical bullshit, I want a real story
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>>5041907
I think we are all forgetting that we have 283 children already, and they have names of vishnu and Yan names.
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>>5041929
Daughter or son, I don't care.
Actually both would be good.
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>>5041929
Anon, we have several hundred thousand sons. Calm down. Ships are also female by maritime tradition.
>>5041938
>and they have names of vishnu and Yan names.
Because they're Vishnu raised in Yan lands.
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>>5041855
We got thousands of sons and hundreds of adopted inhumans, we gud.

>>5041894
I think the Shuni are fine as they are, and no one is really hurting at the moment. So long as everyone is kept in check and laws are put into place to keep people from being assholes everything should be juuuuuust fine.

>>5041906
> inb4 Lieren causes an Alt-Heresy because he turns the traitor Primarchs against Chaos
I sometimes wonder if some loyalist primarchs will turn chaos in this altered timeline.

I dont get the point of the naming game for daughters and son. Is this about the ships? I think we need to reach that bridge first before we go for any naming schemes. Ya gotta be honest it's kind of a fucked process to make one of those A.I.s.
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>>5041977
It's because Malal once said that the dai souls can't be reincarnated by themselves anymore, but something could be done if they were fused and that there are dead sister that can be used to make new ships.
We don't even nees to ritually sacrifice people, we already have powerful, dead psyker souls hanging around, and considering their reincarnation culture, and how tortures they are, they probably would be willing to be given a new chance to live again.
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So for the future, I suggest we contact big E about mari and see if he can offer any help to purifying her ship of the nurgle stuff since she's still holding out while Kanzeon goes and repairs her dying sister.
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>>5042013
yup. Perfect use for them desu. Heck we could use this for willing psykers in general. Mainly the ones that can't safely use their powers.
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>>5042037
I don't like the idea of going to dad about our problems right off the bat, we should at least try to solve it by ourselves before asking for his help. I was thinking we could make some proto-termite assault drill to get down to her and take some heat weapons to seal us in until the problem is solved. That'll also plant the seeds for a tactic that I had in mind for our legion, which is a combined drop pod/assault drill attack. I'm calling it the Collision of Heaven and Hell in my head.
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Do you guys think the lotus scepter could be a method to reincarnate dying eldar into new bodies
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>>5042489
Ehhh I wouldn't bother worrying about how the Eldar would handle it; it's not like the other Craftworld's would have a much better attitude than Kher-Ys.

As for the *potential* to impart a soul to a new body, I don't think it would work for them. You've got to keep in mind that there's a powerful supernatural affliction upon their entire species from Slaanesh; the soul stones (being akin to divine protection), and those constructs based off of them, are the only thing that preserves those souls after the death of the body.

The idea has merit; a son of the legion dies, but the Lotus ritual preserves his soul to be imparted on an empty shell that is gentler on the mind than the forced comas and years of agony that come with being interred into a Dreadnought. I just don't think Lieren, being the person he is, would be willing to experiment on souls ad-hoc.
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>>5042525
Honestly, it’s a good way to get around the issues clones have in general outside like the krieg corps
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Comes to mind we still don’t know the origins of the fog. We thought it was a sister but if it was one of them making it it would have been noted when we looked at their locations.
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Hey malal, how tall is Leiren now? Has he finished growing yet?
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>>5042538
The fog is the product of the sisters.

First thread, it says it is the product of broken archeotech.
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>>5042538
Well, the frozen peaks of Bask are the work of Mari right? So maybe one of the crashed sisters is leaking fog for some reason.
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>>5042544
>>5042547
My money's on Albina (or her body, more accurately) being behind it. There's no proof behind it aside from me thinking her surrounding nation is British, since Albina sounds like Albinia, which was the Romanization of the word Brittonic word Albiyon, which was their word for Britain. And, as we know, Britain is often foggy, which means a British-analog nation would be in the foggiest land on Shangrala. Which means it's nearest to the source. Is this pretty much entirely conjecture? Yes. Am I convinced of my own correctness? You betcha.
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>>5042692
She had ship albinism and made the planet foggy so the sun wouldn't burn her metal skin.
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>>5042720
Genius! Brits burn in the sun as well! She did it to protect her crew!
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>>5042525
Pretty sure that's the Protius Protocol or the thing the head of he Minotaurs uses
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>>5042692
mayhaps they are albanians, Didn't think of that hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
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Turns out she is just an italian white pig goddess
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albina_(mythology)
Or some saints, probably attempts to cristianize said goddess
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Albina
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>>5043219
Sklanjaj se sa moje teme, albanski svinjo-pas. Srbija broj jedan.
>>5043245
Fucks sake, why did two Romanian villages come up before she did in my research. Oh well. Perfectly happy with proto-Romans. Makes more sense, I guess. Anahita for space Indo-Iranians/Bactrians, Albina for space Etruscans, and Philotes for space Greeks. Those real-world cultures all intermingled with one another to a degree, space Bretons would be the odd ones out.
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>>5043308
Well, both Albion in celt and Albina in etruscan/latin means white, and come from the same proto-indo-european word apparently, so you weren't that far off.
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We might actually beat the emperor to getting off our starting planet. Depends on how much longer the reunification war is on terra
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>>5043352 Much Kek if we go and rescue them with a force made by archeo tech/Eldari tech.

Chaos may have gained a god. But emps regained the ability to live harmoniously instead of tyranny.
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>>5043379
Malal the god probably wanted that since it kind of fucks chaos over.
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Sorry for the wait. Calling the vote now. Happy Halloween lads

Wander Kanzeon, trying to comfort her with your words. After all, your father is a similar being to herself, is he not?:17

Wonder who else may be looking at the terrible eye, and allow your mind and spirit to wander upon that thought. Perhaps you will meet one of them?:19

Look deeper into the eye until you feel something looking back, and make a very rude gesture at it:2

Realize the war you fear is nothing compared to the one waged by the Men of Iron, and with peace of mind returned, approach the Nitya Sinha problem with a clear mind:6

you and your sisters were made with the greatest and yet the cruelest way possible. That you may yet stand scarred, whole and dedicated to mankind exhibits your strength of character.:3

Meditate like we had done in the past, here above the world we love looking over it become still and look inward once again: 1

Mention the stray Dai monks' souls that fought with us against Huli Jing: 1

Total votes:22

So Lieren will try to comfort Kanzeon, and wonder who else may be looking at the terrible eye, allowing his mind/ spirit to wander upon the thought

Writing now

>>5042541
Not quiet yet, he's getting there though.

>>5041855
thanks!

>>5041531
I do like Pert

>>5041521
>>5041684
https://youtu.be/C-BAdQxILAc
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>>5043497
HHHNNNG LIQUUUUUUIIIIIIIIIIIIID!
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>>5043497
>Not quiet yet, he's getting there though.
So how tall is he? Is lieren going to be one of the taller primarchs?
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Just had a thought but combat wise Lieren's going to be one of the ones up there. Like for all his scholarly nature and philosophizing he's deceptively good at combat.
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>>5043505
OTACCCCOOOON!
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>>5043521
I gave my two cents on the matter a few threads ago.
>Beaten by Sanguinius, Horus, Leman, Lion, Magnus, and Jaghatai. Angron, Fulgrim, Morty, Vulkan, and Konrad could go either way. Roboute, Rogal, Ferrus, Corvus, Lorgar, Pert, and the Twins would lose.
Our boy is solidly upper-mid, I think. Though I'm second guessing Konrad's placement, he can contend with the Lion...
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>>5043529
you forget our indomitable will brother
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>>5043539
Where primarchs are concerned, indomitable will is a dime a dozen.
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But you are restless and unable to simply leave Kanzeon to her sorrow, grieving her existence and birth. You would not be a man if you simply left her to her tears without at least attempting to comfort her and stem their flower. You would not be so rough handed and uncaring to try and forced a path into being through her body and its halls to pursue her avatar like the romantic fool she claims you to be. After all, you know she is aware of everything within her and can hear your thoughts and words wherever you wander in her veins and components.

Gingerly running your hand along the beautifully engraved and decorated walls Kanzeon has carved, showing scenes of maidens frolicking in streams and fields of vibrant flower, joined by magnificently plumed birds and odd cats lacking their third set of limbs and other standard features of the feline breed.

"Oh gentle Kanzeon, oh radiant Kanzeon! One's birth does not play a hand in their lives! A pauper may die a king, a king may die a worm. Feeling guilt and shame for the circumstances of one's conception is senseless" You coo and sing like the carved birds beneath your fingers, like a lovelorn musician singing his poetry to the night's air in the hopes his feelings will carry to his beloved alongside his words carried by the breeze.

"A babe cannot choose their father, nor their mother! One may scorn their origins but they must know such a thing has no say in who they are or will become! A soldier may lay down his arms and take up the plow!" You cry out, the dark blue light soothing to a more pale hue as you continue your efforts, passionately addressing Kanzeon to comfort her ailing heart "Know you are loved by many! Esteemed by many! Idolized by many! Do not think yourself to be a killer, abomination or patchwork being! You are Kanzeon of the wilds, Mother and guardian. Lover and Teacher! To simplify your existences around your birth, to grieve how you came to be, is foolish. Listen to my words"

No reply, but the lights shift from a pale blue to a dull shade of green. Smiling you kneel before a long, rectangle window and turn your gaze towards a ceiling decorated with peacocks, phoenixes and all other manner of birds in flight through clouds and mist alike.

"What you have told me, has done nothing to change my perception of you. It has not lessened my admiration nor the love I hold for you! The sins of the past are meaningless compared to the present and the future ahead. Dwelling upon such things will only sour the sweet-tastes of life and its simple joys and pleasure" You whisper to the breeze circling through the room, coolly embracing you as you wait for a reply you know Kanzeon is not yet ready to give.

But, she does give her gratitude for your support and faith in her. A message written in Morse Code, delivered through the flickering of the lights in the room. Content you managed to achieved some success in soothing your beloved's angst and pain, you turn your attention back to the cosmos
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>>5043548

And immediately meet the Terrible Cosmic Eye, festering like an Open wound upon the distant universal horizon. Looking upon it dirties your eyes, brings a burning lingering pain into them. Like looking upon burnt meat or a rotting corpse. If you were to more closely observed the rift before you, you have no doubt the landscape of hell would be revealed to you alongside all of its inhabitants. The Empyrean bleeds through the eye, its contents spilling out like it were a burst damn. You can almost hear the wailing of the damned carried by its baleful winds, the shrieking of the soul hunting beasts in the hunt, the laughter of wicked self named gods rejoicing in their villainy.

In your ruminations of the view blighting anomaly of the terrible eye you cannot help but wonder of who else may be looking upon the tear in the veil. Watching it from distant worlds, pondering its origins and effects or perhaps even worshipping it as the avatar of some strange, mysterious deity of unknowable age and power. Will you one day meet these people? As friends, Foe, Enemies, or even brothers? What lives do they lead upon their foreign worlds, what philosophies do they hold. Are they men or some other race? Are they virtuous or wicked in nature and character? What strange laws do they follow.

You wonder a great many things, musing on both the vast immeasurable nature of the universe by meditating on the only focal point you can see in the vast sea of stars and abyssal space. The terrible eye. Devoting your thoughts to these ponderings, you throw your spirit and mind into the realm of spirits, upon the astral plane.

Void of thought and empty of desires, you begin to wander lead by this focus alone in the hopes you could perhaps make contact with these distant stargazers and meet them if only briefly.

The every shifting landscape of the Empyrean yawns out before you. The World of spirits changes with every step you take, fleeing away and changing its face the moment you perceive it, as if it fears being known and thus having its appearance set as if in stone.

A spiritual journey upon the most chaotic road ever conceived and laid in stone.
cont
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>>5043549

What vision do you approach in your meditations, Lieren?

>A Wild wolf mother, with fur of snow and ice, snarling at all who approaches her whelps. A bitter landscape of frost and stone, upon which wolves become as men. A great warrior stands above all others, peerless and unchallenged.

>A blasted, poisoned world! Soaked in radiation, befouled by pollutants. Horrid mockeries of humanity stalk the shadowy, red sands, cast in the shadow of great, resplendently white wings!

>A hive of scum and villainy, that the sun refuses to grace. A forest of gallows, a catacomb of open graves, where man preys upon man. Yet a far greater predator stalks the alleyways and slum of this accursed place.

>Gears. Ticking clocks. Rumbling engines. Roaring thrusters. Smoking canons. Trenches draped with barb and razor tipped wire. A fortress surrounding a garden of beautifully carved statues and carefully tended trees and blossoms.

>Write in
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>>5043551

>Gears. Ticking clocks. Rumbling engines. Roaring thrusters. Smoking canons. Trenches draped with barb and razor tipped wire. A fortress surrounding a garden of beautifully carved statues and carefully tended trees and blossoms.

BROTHERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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>>5043551
Russ, Sangy, Curze, and Pert?
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>>5043551
>A hive of scum and villainy, that the sun refuses to grace. A forest of gallows, a catacomb of open graves, where man preys upon man. Yet a far greater predator stalks the alleyways and slum of this accursed place.
>Gears. Ticking clocks. Rumbling engines. Roaring thrusters. Smoking canons. Trenches draped with barb and razor tipped wire. A fortress surrounding a garden of beautifully carved statues and carefully tended trees and blossoms.

Also congrats on this quest reaching a year old Malal
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>>5043551
>>Gears. Ticking clocks. Rumbling engines. Roaring thrusters. Smoking canons. Trenches draped with barb and razor tipped wire. A fortress surrounding a garden of beautifully carved statues and carefully tended trees and blossoms.

>>5043556
Sounds right. Wolves and Ice, Radiation and Wings, Scum and villiany and Predator, Immaculate creation and remorseless cold blooded war.

Sure sounds like them.
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>A hive of scum and villainy, that the sun refuses to grace. A forest of gallows, a catacomb of open graves, where man preys upon man. Yet a far greater predator stalks the alleyways and slum of this accursed place.

...Time to save Konrad from himself.
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>>5043551
>Gears. Ticking clocks. Rumbling engines. Roaring thrusters. Smoking canons. Trenches draped with barb and razor tipped wire. A fortress surrounding a garden of beautifully carved statues and carefully tended trees and blossoms.
>A blasted, poisoned world! Soaked in radiation, befouled by pollutants. Horrid mockeries of humanity stalk the shadowy, red sands, cast in the shadow of great, resplendently white wings!
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>>5043551
>Gears.
>A wolf

I'd like to meet Leman, but Pert is. . Well, someone who I feel it is beneficial to know.
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>>5043551
>>A hive of scum and villainy, that the sun refuses to grace. A forest of gallows, a catacomb of open graves, where man preys upon man. Yet a far greater predator stalks the alleyways and slum of this accursed place.
Nanananananananana Curze-Man
>>5043558
>>5043563
>>5043585
>>5043589
Vision singular, lads. This isn't an effort we want to dilute, first impressions are important.
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>>5043551
>>Gears. Ticking clocks. Rumbling engines. Roaring thrusters. Smoking canons. Trenches draped with barb and razor tipped wire. A fortress surrounding a garden of beautifully carved statues and carefully tended trees and blossoms.
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>>5043551
Throwing my vote behind;
> Gears. Ticking clocks. Rumbling engines. Roaring thrusters. Smoking canons. Trenches draped with barb and razor tipped wire. A fortress surrounding a garden of beautifully carved statues and carefully tended trees and blossoms.
Or
> A hive of scum and villainy, that the sun refuses to grace. A forest of gallows, a catacomb of open graves, where man preys upon man. Yet a far greater predator stalks the alleyways and slum of this accursed place.

Whichever gets the most support, they both need help in their own ways.

Y'know, I'm wondering whether Magnus will try reaching out himself? He's obviously far more talented in the arts, so reaching out across the stars to distant brothers is actually achievable for him..
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>>5043551
>>Gears. Ticking clocks. Rumbling engines. Roaring thrusters. Smoking canons. Trenches draped with barb and razor tipped wire. A fortress surrounding a garden of beautifully carved statues and carefully tended trees and blossoms.
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I will say that if Pert wins, it'll be good to see him in is gigachad techless form instead of his totally-not-buchers-nails form. I'm also tempted to change my vote to an Angron write-in, but I'm not sure what we could do for him... If anyone has an argument in his favor, do let me know.
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>>5043551
>A hive of scum and villainy, that the sun refuses to grace. A forest of gallows, a catacomb of open graves, where man preys upon man. Yet a far greater predator stalks the alleyways and slum of this accursed place.
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>>5043632
I mean, aiding angron is a matter of letting him use our wisdom instead of his beserker lust for death and battle when planning their rebellion.

But angron has never taken lessons well.
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>>5043620
Magnus is a bit busy trying to figure out counters to Chaos.
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>>5043589
Fair enough anon.

I remove the wolf from my gears.
Because I like Leman but. . . There be time enough later.
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>>5043551
>Gears. Ticking clocks. Rumbling engines. Roaring thrusters. Smoking canons. Trenches draped with barb and razor tipped wire. A fortress surrounding a garden of beautifully carved statues and carefully tended trees and blossoms.
Shit... this is hard.
I though this would just be Pert but Curze is really tempting too. So is Leman but we will meet him when we join Emps anyway so he can wait.
I feel like Perturabo needs the help now and it'll be too late when we find him in person. Not that Curze doesn't need the help, but maybe we can help him in person. I hope at least.
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>>5043551
>Gears. Ticking clocks. Rumbling engines. Roaring thrusters. Smoking canons. Trenches draped with barb and razor tipped wire. A fortress surrounding a garden of beautifully carved statues and carefully tended trees and blossoms.
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>>5043642
Post-Nail Angron, that is. Since Big E is still in the final days of the Unification War, I'm hopeful that Angron hasn't gotten his lobotomy yet. If anyone wants to vote for him,
>A world of unforgiving crags and blood-soaked bone sand. An angel there stands chained and fettered, his skin crimson with shed blood, his wings the blades forced into his hands nearly from birth, and his halo a ring of nails, ever-so-slowly drifting closer to his scalp.
>>5043650
>I feel like Perturabo needs the help now and it'll be too late when we find him in person. Not that Curze doesn't need the help, but maybe we can help him in person. I hope at least.
See, I came to the opposite conclusion. For example, Pert tried to tell someone about the Eye (Ferrus, iirc), but caged up when all he got was a strange look. He also was able to make friends with Magnus and actually cracked jokes when he was studying with dad on Terra. Curze was just varying degrees of bad from his recovery onwards He never tried to befriend his brothers or bond with his father and his life Nostromo dominated the way he saw the galaxy. We've also seen us existing is causing him to slip further, which is something we should seek to remedy.
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>>5043551
>>Gears. Ticking clocks. Rumbling engines. Roaring thrusters. Smoking canons. Trenches draped with barb and razor tipped wire. A fortress surrounding a garden of beautifully carved statues and carefully tended trees and blossoms.
Mayhaps Lieren feels a kinship with this one more than most, drawing on the Emperor's original designs.
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>>5043551
>>A hive of scum and villainy, that the sun refuses to grace. A forest of gallows, a catacomb of open graves, where man preys upon man. Yet a far greater predator stalks the alleyways and slum of this accursed place.
>>5043558
Damn, one year from the 27th
Time flies
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i am really really really tempted to go curze but unless angron is an option i go pert

>Gears. Ticking clocks. Rumbling engines. Roaring thrusters. Smoking canons. Trenches draped with barb and razor tipped wire. A fortress surrounding a garden of beautifully carved statues and carefully tended trees and blossoms.

ps if malal say's angron's a go throw my vote in for that
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>>5043551
>A hive of scum and villainy, that the sun refuses to grace. A forest of gallows, a catacomb of open graves, where man preys upon man. Yet a far greater predator stalks the alleyways and slum of this accursed place.
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>>5043674
I put a write in there, didn't I?
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>>5043551
>>A world of unforgiving crags and blood-soaked bone sand. An angel there stands chained and fettered, his skin crimson with shed blood, his wings the blades forced into his hands nearly from birth, and his halo a ring of nails, ever-so-slowly drifting closer to his scalp.
Changing my vote to this. Let's save Angrion
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>>5043551
>>A hive of scum and villainy, that the sun refuses to grace. A forest of gallows, a catacomb of open graves, where man preys upon man. Yet a far greater predator stalks the alleyways and slum of this accursed place.
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>>5043551
>A world of unforgiving crags and blood-soaked bone sand. An angel there stands chained and fettered, his skin crimson with shed blood, his wings the blades forced into his hands nearly from birth, and his halo a ring of nails, ever-so-slowly drifting closer to his scalp.
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>>5043688
But how. we literally cant do anything for him. Especially if hes already implanted.
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>>5043697
Did we not lead a rebellion? We can teach him. All he knows is gladitoral fights. Teach him tactics and other shit and he'll get out on his own.
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>>5043551
>>5043661
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>>5043700
Shit. miss clicked. Wanted to bring attention to this post and accidently hit enter two early. Anyway for all you peeps reading this has been labled as a valid option by malal.
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I don't remember which post was mine, but I voted for curze.
Changing to
>>A world of unforgiving crags and blood-soaked bone sand. An angel there stands chained and fettered, his skin crimson with shed blood, his wings the blades forced into his hands nearly from birth, and his halo a ring of nails, ever-so-slowly drifting closer to his scalp.
As much as I think that kurze needs nore help right now rather than Pert, Angron needs even more.
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>>5043702
It was this one
>>5043635
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>>5043661
I feel the need to clarify that I'm still voting just for Curze.
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>Gears. Ticking clocks. Rumbling engines. Roaring thrusters. Smoking canons. Trenches draped with barb and razor tipped wire. A fortress surrounding a garden of beautifully carved statues and carefully tended trees and blossoms.

And

>A world of unforgiving crags and blood-soaked bone sand. An angel there stands chained and fettered, his skin crimson with shed blood, his wings the blades forced into his hands nearly from birth, and his halo a ring of nails, ever-so-slowly drifting closer to his scalp.
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>>5043551
>>5043585
I'm going to switch my vote to

>A world of unforgiving crags and blood-soaked bone sand. An angel there stands chained and fettered, his skin crimson with shed blood, his wings the blades forced into his hands nearly from birth, and his halo a ring of nails, ever-so-slowly drifting closer to his scalp.
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>>5043551
>>A hive of scum and villainy, that the sun refuses to grace. A forest of gallows, a catacomb of open graves, where man preys upon man. Yet a far greater predator stalks the alleyways and slum of this accursed place.

Damnation. Both Pert and Curze need help, but... I can only hope that whatever our decision, we can contact the other later...
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>>5043551
>A world of unforgiving crags and blood-soaked bone sand. An angel there stands chained and fettered, his skin crimson with shed blood, his wings the blades forced into his hands nearly from birth, and his halo a ring of nails, ever-so-slowly drifting closer to his scalp
Angron our Brother! Save him!
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>>5043551
>A hive of scum and villainy, that the sun refuses to grace. A forest of gallows, a catacomb of open graves, where man preys upon man. Yet a far greater predator stalks the alleyways and slum of this accursed place.
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> Save Angry Ron!
> Contact Magnus to save Pert!

Guys magnus and pert can bond! Suffering misunderstood Artist and the Giga Nerd!
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Also we'd be liberating a slave/liberator.

Parallelism!
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>>5043551
>Gears. Ticking clocks. Rumbling engines. Roaring thrusters. Smoking canons. Trenches draped with barb and razor tipped wire. A fortress surrounding a garden of beautifully carved statues and carefully tended trees and blossoms.
Perty was pretty much the only reason the Horus Heresey got so far as it did. Hes the second most effective Chaos Primarch, right behind Horus.
Dude BTFO's a Chaos Prince Angron for fucks sake.
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>>5043551
>Write in
Wait....Wait! GUYS!
ANGRON! ANGRY RON! I WANT TO SAVE BEST BOY!
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>>5043661
This. Write In for the win!
>A world of unforgiving crags and blood-soaked bone sand. An angel there stands chained and fettered, his skin crimson with shed blood, his wings the blades forced into his hands nearly from birth, and his halo a ring of nails, ever-so-slowly drifting closer to his scalp.

I'm still not understanding why some Anons want to pick 2 visions instead of 1. Picking 1 means we'd get more time to understand one of our brothers.
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>>5043551
>>A world of unforgiving crags and blood-soaked bone sand. An angel there stands chained and fettered, his skin crimson with shed blood, his wings the blades forced into his hands nearly from birth, and his halo a ring of nails, ever-so-slowly drifting closer to his scalp.
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>>5043551
I'm voting for >A hive of scum and villainy, that the sun refuses to grace. A forest of gallows, a catacomb of open graves, where man preys upon man. Yet a far greater predator stalks the alleyways and slum of this accursed place.

so far by my count, the vote is
pert 11
Cruze 10
Mort 0
Russ 0
Angron 10
Contact Magnus to save Pert! 1 (we would actually need to meet him first)
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>>5043899
I'm adding to my vote
>Gears. Ticking clocks. Rumbling engines. Roaring thrusters. Smoking canons. Trenches draped with barb and razor tipped wire. A fortress surrounding a garden of beautifully carved statues and carefully tended trees and blossoms.
All Right just recounted and it's:
Pert 12
Cruze 10
Mort 0
Russ 0
Angron 11
Contact Magnus to save Pert 1 (we would actually need to meet him first)
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>>5043902
my dumb ass didn't realize that >>5043878
accidentally voted twice so I'm assuming that means -1 to pert and -1 to angron
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I wake up to see a solid movement to see Angron... why?
How the HELL are we supposed to help him? At all?
Please enlighten me because I don't see it.
Pert is a good choice, since his problem (as far as I understand) is this weird eye he sees no one else does, and no one believes him. We just go "yeah I see it too" and there you go, friend acquired.
Curze is a harder nut to crack, because we can't make nightmarish visions go away, but we dabbled in divination and "Fate is the salve of fool" is one of our mottos at this point, we can definitely give him a good pep talk at least.
Angron... we can do nothing to help him. Him getting nailed is a given, the only realistic way we are stopping that is telling him to kill his friend when his captors ask, which we will not ask and he will not do. And what, we teach him tactics? For a planet we have never been on, against an enemy we have never seen, and a brother we do not know? Pointless. And he is a slave, he has no assets to fuck around with anyway. His options are
>fight
>get other slave to fight too
>don't fight
and for what it's worth, he gets pretty far on his own regardless.

I wanna help Angron, I really do, but we would be passing up two brothers who we can actually help at a distance for one we can do nothing for. The best way to help Angron is to be there when he is found, and NOT let all his friends die like dogs at the hands of his captors.
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>>5043551
>>A hive of scum and villainy, that the sun refuses to grace. A forest of gallows, a catacomb of open graves, where man preys upon man. Yet a far greater predator stalks the alleyways and slum of this accursed place.

While Perty is someone who will need our help, Conrad needs it far earlier than Perty. The dude's whole experience on his world reinforced his hatred and insanity, he needs a healthy dose of prosperity and convincing him that the awful futures he sees are not the only path.

We have all we need to help Kurze buck his issues, save contact with him. If he gets picked up by the emperor, we'll never be able to get a chance to help him, and he'll be forced to just keep going on as the Night Haunter.
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>>5043902
guess I'll retract my pert vote
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>>5043920
Well. We could let him draw on the great golden sea. That's one definitive action possible.
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>>5043946
His problem isn't one that can be fixed in our current state since his enemies hold every single they could have over him beyond him being a Primarch. As a matter of fact trying help Angron directly is the wrong approach.
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>>5043971
I'm aware that our capacity to help him is limited to none existance. At best it'd be offering technical support to shackles, though if he can pull on the sea, perhaps we can also use it to offer perspectives of others?

But it seems like we're going with him anyway, unless pert gets a good 2-3 votes, so we may as well start thinking about the right approach.
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>>5043920
Tell him to run away, hide in some caves and build advanced tech? He lost his cradle, so his only chance would be if we sent him the knowledge through the warp.
I would prefer Kurze over Pert, telling him of our special eyes can happen at anytime, but helping Kurze deal with his visions should be done as quick as possible.
But if saving Angron is even a possibility, than he become the most important. Him taking his role as an empath among the brothers could help with all the dad issues.
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>Gears. Ticking clocks. Rumbling engines. Roaring thrusters. Smoking canons. Trenches draped with barb and razor tipped wire. A fortress surrounding a garden of beautifully carved statues and carefully tended trees and blossoms.
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>>5043551
>Gears. Ticking clocks. Rumbling engines. Roaring thrusters. Smoking canons. Trenches draped with barb and razor tipped wire. A fortress surrounding a garden of beautifully carved statues and carefully tended trees and blossoms.
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>>5043551
>>A hive of scum and villainy, that the sun refuses to grace. A forest of gallows, a catacomb of open graves, where man preys upon man. Yet a far greater predator stalks the alleyways and slum of this accursed place.

I am unsure how conversations will be. But, Lieren has the capacity to warm others to him. Perhaps he can warm even the coldest of hearts.
I wouldn't mind the other choices. But one at the time, we will know all of them at a certain point anyway.

>>5043497
Np
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>>5043551
>>Gears. Ticking clocks. Rumbling engines. Roaring thrusters. Smoking canons. Trenches draped with barb and razor tipped wire. A fortress surrounding a garden of beautifully carved statues and carefully tended trees and blossoms.
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>>5043551
Reading through everyone's conversations, I find it hard to decide between Perterabo, Conrad, and Angron. On one hand Angron would be eternally grateful if he doesnt have to kill his father figure, doesnt get the nails, and maintains his empathic powers, but on the other our capacity to help is limited giving him access to the Golden Sea and astrally projecting to his location.....actually I think we can do quite a bit for him by simply astrally projecting. Lieren is a fairly potent psyker among his brothers, atm second to his brother Magnus.

For Conrad he really does need a hug and some therapy for all the bad shit going onin his life.

For Perterabo. Well everyone knows what he needs.

Still unsure who to vote for.
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>>Gears. Ticking clocks. Rumbling engines. Roaring thrusters. Smoking canons. Trenches draped with barb and razor tipped wire. A fortress surrounding a garden of beautifully carved statues and carefully tended trees and blossoms.
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>>5044125
I still feel like Magnus could do a lot of good using his own telepathic and astral projection talent to 'speak' with Angron or Konrad.

It would be good for him as well, since we don't want him obsessing over Chaos only to neglect his relationships with others. Likewise, he needs a friend (besides Lieren) who can offer perspective on how and why the average Imperial citizens are wary of psykers.
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>>5044125
Konrad has already, I will remind you, seen a boys future change for the better, shit himself, and killed the boy anyway to stop that first vision of death changing.
He needs more than therapy.
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>>5044125
I think that as everything stands right now, time is more of the essence with Konrad. Angron, nails or not, already has a brighter future than he did in canon. If we can stop him from getting them, fantastic, but we're set up to be able to help him even if he does. If he gets them, Lieren, upon meeting him, would go straight to dad and demand he remove them from his brother. Regardless of the excuse he gets (it'd be too difficult and time consuming, he can still fill a role as a roid monster, etc.) Lieren would keep at it, perhaps even going behind the Emperor's back and enlist some of his brothers to help de-lobotomize Angron. Pert would instinctively be able to deduce how the nails are implanted and function, Magnus could aid the surgery with precise telekinesis and biomancy, Ferrus or Vulkan could perhaps modify the nails to do something other than what they were designed to. But Curze needs to be shown the error of his ways sooner rather than later. He needs to be introduced to views and methods he might not have ever considered before and shown that they hold up. The less time he has to solidify the mindset that fear, terror, and brutality as the only tools he needs, the better.
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>>5043987
>Tell him to run away
How? As far as I am aware, he was captured when he was young, and after that all his attempts to escape were thwarted, despite him being a primarch. He is not getting out of there.
>build advanced tech
I doubt he even has the basic knowledge needed to build any of the tech we would describe to him. We could make leaps and bounds technologically on our world because we studied the shit out of our cradle, and we lived on a technologically backwards planet. Angron has no cradle, no education in technology, and lives on a technologically advanced world on top of that. He won't be able to make some magic tech that will solve all his problems just because we instruct him.
>But if saving Angron is even a possibility, than he become the most important.
Completely agreed.
But I just don't see us having nearly the impact we might on Pert or Curze.
>>5043946
I guess that would be something... But I am sceptical of how much that will really help him. Much less than what we can do for Pert and Curze, the way I see it.
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>>5044160
Well, giving him the perspective of Yin lei, the natural observational and adaptational skills of Jinhai, The psyker abilities of magnus/us, our own hunters grace or the defensive mind of the lord of turtles can only help.

He's a primarch sure, but he's not been taught anything.
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>>5044165
The great golden sea is our followers bound to us and us to our followers, an exchange of powers and skills to aid one another.

Angeron can only benefit from their capabilities.
He managed to escape from captivity 3 times, leading bloody rebellion against his oppressors and 3 times he was hunted down in months and his slaves slew and he himself taken back as a gladiator, except the last where emps took him away.
I think his mentor fight was done as a punishment for one of these break outs.
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>>5044160
Hey, let me dream of Iron Man Angron blasting the High Riders to pieces.
It's not like he is going to win the vote anyway, Pert has a clear lead.
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>>5044166
I was completely wrong, dismiss this information.

Angeron was ordered to kill his father figure, refused, then got the nails and killed his father figure in a frenzy.
THEN he escaped and survived for several years in the mountains and the highrider army was about to descend and emps took him away.
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>>5044165
>>5044166
Once again the problem isn't Angron, it's the fucked up society he's enslaved by. Limiting yourself to Angron is setting your plan up to fail since Khorne has a personal interest in Angron.
Think anon, think. Why do the gladitorial arenas exist? The answer is to keep the peasantry from fucking revolting. You know he people Lieren hangs around the most and wrote an entire book to help guide them.
Stop letting your emotions think for you.
Also I'm not voting because I'm pretty neutral on all of these options but Perty would be one the best both long and short term to contact.
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>>5044170
You know, I was not too certain on the exact timeline of Angron's backstory. This would mean that he would not get the nails for a good while, yes? I suppose it would not be too farfetched that he could escape and then remain hidden thanks to our tutelage... if we teach him some subtlety.
That is a plan I could get behind, but I maintain that Pert & Curze could use our imminent assistance more.
>>5044168
Discussion is nice anyway.
I certainly see the Angron option in a new light, even if it does not become relevant.
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>>5044194
I did vote for Pert. And Leman as a second.
I'm engaging in how Angron may be aided in case the vote I like loses.

That being said, I fail to see how giving our brother the tools to make his escape easier is at all relevant to your point on the purpose of the arenas.
Or are you proposing that it would help more to have him do some prophisisng from the ring to inspire the masses to rise up in revolution? The idea sounds like it would invite reprisals against him.

>>5044204
It's completely possible he wouldn't get nails for a good while, and hence still be the not brain raped primarch.
Just escalating his escape plans before the implants can happen radically changes him.
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>>5044208
Why instead of focusing on Angron instead focus on the lower classes, preparing them to revolt at the perfect moment and using ourselves as a medium to help them coordinate with the slaves? Angron's biggest was his lack of support, he lacked infrastructure for building weapons, manpower, and allies since they were just a bunch of escaped slaves. Angron himself is bullshit but he's fighting against a society with the ability to manufacture DaoT tech.
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>>5044194
>Perty would be one the best both long and short term to contact.
I see you're point, and I absolutely agree with you on that, but perhaps maybe we can seek out Perterabo later in favor of finding Conrad or Angron. I think I've narrowed down my vote to those brothers for my vote, but I'm still on the fence for either.

>You kept that mule Kor Phaeron. Russ kept his kin-friends. The Lion kept Luther. Humans - brothers and foster fathers - saved and raised into Legion ranks. But not me. Not Angron, no. Did the Emperor teleport his gold-wrapped Custodians down to help me and my army? No. Did he free the War Hounds and order them to battle, fight alongside me? No. Did he save my brothers and sisters the way he spared and honoured the Lion's closest kin? The way he honoured Kor Phaeron? No, no and no. No mercy for Angron. Angron the Oathbreaker. Angron the Betrayer.
https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Angron
I forgot how old Lieren is, but I think hes about somewhere between 8-10 standard terran years old, or at least for this planet. I only know after a few months he became "the something of the red sands," some unknown time later he kills his foster dad, a few years later he became a world star, some more years later he escaped with his slave allies, and more years he was nearly wiped out until Big E came around.
I dunno if his dad is even still alive, but I think canonically right now hes maybe still a slave. From what little I know of the original (not quest) 40K canon Angron was the 17th primarch to be found, after the war that resulted in the death or censoring of the 2nd and 11th primarch. So, that means he's roughly found.....fucking I dont know Gamesworkshop you bitch, and the great crusade lasted around some 200 years. Hes found somewhere around between 100-200 years?

>>5044204
Hell if I know man. I didnt read Angrons book yet. I think Perty could use help later on.

>>5044208
It would be nice if Angron was able to get the poor people and the gutter scum to rise up, instead of having just around 2000 escaped gladiators.

>>5044220
The only DaoT thing I think they're able to manufacture, as far as I'm aware, was the Butchers Nails, and even then I think those cybernetics were chinese knock offs of things they were once able to produce. Yew his home planet has tech, but its definitely not DaoT tier, else Angron would had a harder time burning the world to the ground when he finally inherited his Legion.

I think Corad was also the 16th to be found? And Perty was the 12th to be found?
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>>5044227
Just realized but we have a way to actually save angron post nails. Him and his fellow gladiators. Lotus scepter them and stick them into cloned bodies
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>>5044227
There’s a to. If evidence that the primarchs all didn’t emerge from the warp at the same time.
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>>5043551
I've made my verdict
>A world of unforgiving crags and blood-soaked bone sand. An angel there stands chained and fettered, his skin crimson with shed blood, his wings the blades forced into his hands nearly from birth, and his halo a ring of nails, ever-so-slowly drifting closer to his scalp.
While Kurze is mentally ill, Angron is psychically ill. The nails are literally killing Angry boy, while we still have a chance to hug Batman boy later on.
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>>5044220
Because the point of the mission is to prevent the butchers nails being implanted. If you stave off that eventuality, then you can do whatever you like with the lower classes.
If the lower classes helping DON'T stop Angron getting surgery, Ignore them for now so that he doesn't lose his mind to being only able to feel joy in violence.
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>>5043551
>Gears. Ticking clocks. Rumbling engines. Roaring thrusters. Smoking canons. Trenches draped with barb and razor tipped wire. A fortress surrounding a garden of beautifully carved statues and carefully tended trees and blossoms.
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>>5043655
>>5043674
>>5043776
>>5044030
>>5044073
>>5044128
>>5044267
>all these 1-pert IDs
Gets the noggin’ joggin’ like nothing else
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>>5044343
Reeks of people samefagging sadly.
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>>5043551
>>A hive of scum and villainy, that the sun refuses to grace. A forest of gallows, a catacomb of open graves, where man preys upon man. Yet a far greater predator stalks the alleyways and slum of this accursed place.
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>>5044343
I mean we do have 219 unique ids and dynamic ips are a thing. Though I'm not certain if they are all legit I'm certain at least some of the ones you linked are.
>>5044363
How so? A few of those are clearly not samefags and we have 219 unique ips.
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>>5044376
It's extremely easy to switch your ip address on your phone. Just turn off you data for like 30 seconds to am minute and then turn it back on.
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>>5044381
Yes and? Has it ever occurred to you that not everyone posting on a new IP is trying to samefag? Multiple of the votes linked are hours apart as well as some of the posts being clearly organic. There is also the existence of lurkers being a thing. Let's not assume that's malicious or whatever you think it is.
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>>5044395
I'd be more willing to believe people were being on the level if we weren't nearly 1500 posts into the thread. Or if this were a vote for anything other than which brother we meet next.
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>>5044399
We've actually still been getting new ips every vote surprisingly enough, though I'm more annoyed you guys are conveniently ignoring those. You also are ignoring the possibility of lurkers posting on their phone from work which is a situation I've been in.
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>>5044343
While your not wrong and it def seems as samefagging. I a pert fag must call out the cuck-cruz trying to label us as samefaggers.

This is why we turned on your Emperor..
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It's honestly really sad that assholes have made single post id posts sus as fuck.
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>>5044408
There's also me, the angron voter who ID changes sometimes.
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>>5044407
The last vote had 1 first time voter. The one before that had 2. This one has 7 just for one of the options. Only one ignoring things is you.
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>>5044414
I'm not though. This is a big vote so I expected more votes from 1 post IPs because people would be posting from phones. There is a good reason I pointed out the the time on the votes. You are essentially saying one person is changing his IP hour or so to samefag, while there are people that autistic I doubt that's the situation here.
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>>5043551
>>Gears. Ticking clocks. Rumbling engines. Roaring thrusters. Smoking canons. Trenches draped with barb and razor tipped wire. A fortress surrounding a garden of beautifully carved statues and carefully tended trees and blossoms.
Made it on time. I for one am all for the Gears, if only because showing him Kazeon might get his autism to focus on her and her sisters instead of the eye.
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>>5044435
Can you post again please?
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>>5044455
sure. here you go.
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>>5044519
Thanks. Mind telling us why you have a new IP while at it? Some of the guys around seem like they are jumping at shadow in their fear of samefagging.
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>>5044432
>You are essentially saying one person is changing his IP hour or so to samefag
No, you're trying to put words in my mouth, which is about the caliber of debate I'd expect from someone defending samefags.
>>5044455
Kek
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>>5044541
>which is about the caliber of debate I'd expect from someone defending samefags.
I'm not defending samefags, rather the argument is they aren't samefags like you think they are. Suspicion isn't evidence no matter how hard you try to push it as such. Your argument is shaky at best and fallacious at worst.
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>>5044536
>While your at it, give us your A/S/L, mothers maiden name and Social security number.

Not that anon, But mine cycles because I've asked my IP provider to do it for me or you can set some wifi's to cycle shit.
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>>5044536
I mean. It's pretty damn likely some of them are.
Just feels off.
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>>5044536
Mainly cause I don't post very often nor know what exactly to post. Not the best when it comes to this sorta stuff. Was into the whole Perturbo thing so I wanted to cast my vote in since it seemed like a stalemate, but the day was pretty busy.
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>>5044541
>No, you're trying to put words in my mouth
That's literally what you've implied. Back on /tg/ we checked the timestamps to see who was samefagging. Why don't you check the timestamps?
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>>5044549
Well, we also had a surge of one post ID on the great power and curse hellcount, but everything was alright after.
And every option had one ID votes on that one, so if that amount of samefagging didn't break the quest, I doubt any other would be able to.
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>>5044549
I've never argued that all weren't samefagging. Rather some were obviously not samefags. Like the guy that got linked that wanted Angron here >>5043674
Seriously what the fuck? I feel like the people shouting samefag are more just salty people are choosing Pert.
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>>5043551
>>Gears. Ticking clocks. Rumbling engines. Roaring thrusters. Smoking canons. Trenches draped with barb and razor tipped wire. A fortress surrounding a garden of beautifully carved statues and carefully tended trees and blossoms.
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>>5044546
>Suspicion isn't evidence no matter how hard you try to push it as such.
And the absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence. You're delusional at best and retarded at worse.
>>5044554
>That's literally what you've implied.
It literally isn't. I'm saying that samefagging is happening, not that one person is samefagging exactly once every hour. Your attempt to make any suspicion at all seem unreasonable is laughable. If you have a dynamic IP, you link back to a previous post. We did that on back /tg/ too, I'm sure you're familiar with the concept.
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I hope this quest doesn't turn into another one ruined by samefag witchhunts, I'm really tired of it all.
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>>5044639
Dad's gonna come home from getting milk and beat us with a stick.
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>>5044242
Better wrap it up guys. Pert needs love, but AngryRon needs urgent help.

Also Malal! Might get mad.
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>>5044644
Atleast it isn't the belt.
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Just a thought. We are growing into one of the most formidable primarch. We have 3 greater daemon kills, A DE patriarch, A chaos sorcerer, several giant monsters and a partridge in a pear tree.

We also have magic wuxia cultivation. And soon all the Archeotech we could want.

Daddy is going to be so proud of us.
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>>5044661
It pays to not be an unreasonable fuckwit it seems.
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>>5044661
We also have a woman of stone 2.0, converted eldars and a valkyrie goddess as allies.
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>>5044628
>And the absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence
Your argument is mostly baseless though and there is
>not that one person is samefagging exactly once every hour
It's implausible for it to be several samefags, it can't be bots since the posts are too irregular, so it has to be one or a few at most who are very dedicated to samefagging. There also the fact Pert is a very popular character in this quest.
>If you have a dynamic IP, you link back to a previous post. We did that on back /tg/ too, I'm sure you're familiar with the concept.
Yeah I remember this one though a lot of quests didn't use it since samefagging wasn't a problem in most quests. Banished quest was the benchmark of the worst of samefagging.
>>5044669
>>Goddess
>Emp: We don't use that word around here.
>>5044661
Well this would make interactions with guys like Russ interesting. Also I wonder if the concept of Arete will show up.
>>5044648
Curze is on verge of breaking but only a few posts aknowledged that. The reason I think Pert is so popular is because he's all around good to contact. He has eyes that can understand anything they see, he's the best tech focused Primarch, he is also very interesting as a character if poorly handled by most writers. Whereas Angron has the least to directly offer and most of what makes him memorable and compelling is how tragedic he is.
Meanwhile Curze would be the more interesting from an interaction standpoint.
Sangy is the most underrated option in my opinion.
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>>5044708
>Your argument is mostly baseless though
My basis is the fact there's an influx of unlinked 1-post IDs for a vote that'll result in interacting with characters from canon, which historically have been grounds for such behavior in the past, both here and elsewhere. Your denial is based in "nuh uh, lurkers."
>and there is
And there is what? Evidence of absence? Take a minute to point it out, I'm not going anywhere
>There also the fact Pert is a very popular character in this quest.
If anything, that makes fans of his more likely to samefag.
>>Yeah I remember this one though a lot of quests didn't use it since samefagging wasn't a problem in most quests. Banished quest was the benchmark of the worst of samefagging.
None of this is a reason why it wouldn't be done here.
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>>5044708
>>Goddess
>Emp: We don't use that word around here

Leiren: The path does not have Gods or priests, but It recognizes the fact that our souls get eaten when we die. Ergo the need to. Starve. The. Bastards.
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>>5044793
No I genuinely think lieren wants to go full chink and out by the roots the warp gods. He recognizes them as daemons and wants to kill them for their cores so he can level up xianxia style.
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>>5044734
>which historically have been grounds for such behavior in the past
A bunch of 1post IDs on a major/contentious vote is not unusual either and that mostly applies to /tg/ style sessions which were fast pace enough to actually catch samefags. The situation in this quest is vastly different in speed making more complex than "a bunch of 1 posts means samefagging", people busy, live in different time zones, have auto reseting ip, can't use their computer for the post forcing them to post via mobile, or straight up don't participate for most of the. You have nothing other than baseless suspicion and speculation. I likewise have only speculation but I've noticed slow quests tend to have vastly less samefagging regardless of the site. Also 5 potential samefag votes is kind of small for declaring samefaggotry.
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Calling the vote now, in the name of peace.

Gears. Ticking clocks. Rumbling engines. Roaring thrusters. Smoking canons. Trenches draped with barb and razor tipped wire. A fortress surrounding a garden of beautifully carved statues and carefully tended trees and blossoms.: 19 (14 if you ignore 1id votes)

A hive of scum and villainy, that the sun refuses to grace. A forest of gallows, a catacomb of open graves, where man preys upon man. Yet a far greater predator stalks the alleyways and slum of this accursed place.:13

A blasted, poisoned world! Soaked in radiation, befouled by pollutants. Horrid mockeries of humanity stalk the shadowy, red sands, cast in the shadow of great, resplendently white wings!:0

A Wild wolf mother, with fur of snow and ice, snarling at all who approaches her whelps. A bitter landscape of frost and stone, upon which wolves become as men. A great warrior stands above all others, peerless and unchallenged.: 0

A world of unforgiving crags and blood-soaked bone sand. An angel there stands chained and fettered, his skin crimson with shed blood, his wings the blades forced into his hands nearly from birth, and his halo a ring of nails, ever-so-slowly drifting closer to his scalp.: 11

Contact Magnus:1

And to ease your worries. This was a Winner only vote like the time when you threw down with The Keeper of rust AND I re-counted the Votes for meeting perturabo, leaving out 1id ones just to prove

That even if same fagging was afoot for all of them which I heavily doubt it was, but even if it was that Perturabo would still win.

Since ignoring the 1ids still leaves Gears with 14, one more than the runner up of Curze.

Of course, I'm not going to implement the stringent anti same fagging rules others QMs employ. Since that's a quick way to pollute the waters and make what's supposed to be fun into an extended pain in the ass for all parties.

So, if you believe all the 1ids were same fags, know that their efforts have changed jack and shit. All it would change is that the outcome was a lot closer than the count shows, if that's how you want to see things and came down to a single vote rather than a gap of six.

Anyways, writing now. Just figured I'd show my data to calm you guys down and keep this shitstorm from reigniting.


>>5043670
Especially if you're having fun
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>>5044819
as one of the 1id's who voted angron im cool with this pert was my second choice anyway let's all just chill and see where thing's go peace and prosperity anon's
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The road stretching out in to the ceaseless eternities of the emperyan begins to shift from a mist and fog shrouded cobbled road cutting through the domains of madness and disordered into a far more ordered and rational path. Where once there flowed streams of illusionary water, fouler fluids or even substances that do not possess a natural liquid state or flowing currents of wailing, agonized souls pouring into the open maws of demonic faces carved of stone and more disgusting materials that you refuse to consider or pay anything more than the barest attention to.

Rather, the water of the spirits realms, its hills, valleys, trees, pillars, and everything else is replaced by a vast canyon made of gears, polished to a mirror finish or left to rust and degrade to uselessness, frozen besides the ever turning mechanism they were once part of. Replaced by newly forged gears budding from their teeth like a fungus or the buds of a once wilted flowering bush. As you wander through the canyon of gears and never ceasing industry and improvement, you come up a glade of ticking clocks rising from the soil like trees, all organized to count time in near perfect unison but your perceptive ears and eyes can spot the delay and pauses between each clocks count. It is almost as if they were wound by the hands of a man in pursuit of perfection, despite the endeavor being ultimately pointless and doomed to failure. The glade of time keeping gives way to a raging collection of rivers of filled with jet fuel, fire and smoke fed by thrusters continuously roaring and testing the limits of their designs' specification. It is deafening like standing directly beneath a waterfall in the flood season.

Covering your ears, you sway and swagger through a line of cannons firing until they inevitably break down and become useless, only to be replaced by newer models in a never ending tournament of efficiency and killing power with the vast expanse of undefined space serving as the unliving contestants targeting range. But each are crafted by the loving hands of an artisan! Nearly imaculate in their construction, as were the gears, clocks and roaring engines and the thrusters they powered. You'd believe you had wandered into the very soul of Dandan or Shan if not for the tell tale markings of foreign cultures concept of artistry and beauty hidden in each creation you pass by, but none more apparent than the cannons, engraved to the smallest details scenes of battles and warfare that could only be seen and appreciated if one paused to ponder and inspect their construction!.

Immaculate creation intermingled with the remorselessness of war. The earth becomes mud, and you wade through a mire of oil, paint and blood, marching through trenches dug precisely and fortified against all attack with wires bearing barbs and thorns like rose bushes. But what have they been dug to guard?
Cont
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>>5044850

This is a sure sign of a soul hiding its true nature from not only the living but the dead as well. So deeply has this stargazer buried and locked away his passions, that upon the astral plane his soul is hidden behind a garrison no army of mortal men, or wicked spirits could ever hope to siege and break. Or, perhaps this is the wall the stargazer puts up, so only those who truly care for and understand him will see who he is beneath a veneer of cold rationality lacking remorse or pity. Hiding his true self chosen purpose behind a innate talent for siegecraft and warfare. What a intriguing person you have encountered, upon a world many leagues away from your own.

Or will soon encounter, once you've found your way through the trenches and into the fortress standing proud and resolute upon the horizon. The engineering of its defenses and the mechanics that came before, springing from the unconscious mind and thoughts of its unaware creator, is truly without peer. Of all the geniuses and fellow builders you have met, none could surpass the owner of this soul in a contest of beauty or effectiveness! The fortress! The fortress guarding against the terrible eye! It is indomitable! Were it remade in realspace, you fear not even the force that could be mustered if Magnus and you worked together could breech its walls! Truly a marvelous design! You must meet its creator! To be able to seamlessly express beauty within the architecture, beneath the fortifications and brutal efficiency is the sign of a rare genius!

Crawling through mud, cut by barbed wire, you at last reach the keep's gate and press a hand upon them and find them to be unbolted and unlocked despite the unbreakable defenses and fortifications surrounding it. Curious, you peer inside and are awed to witness a garden of statues so carefully carved they resemble living creatures born of stone, frolicking gayly beneath well tended trees and beds of blossoming flowers.

Both your hearts freeze in shock, nearly ripping you back to your material vessel as you suffer what may be a brief heart attack from the sight that greets you in the exact center of the resplendent garden of the Architect Warlord.

A statue of a giant, holding up what appears to be a diagram of some kind of space vessel!

And suddenly, the skillful peerless handiwork seen throughout the astral realm colored by the distant stargazer's brilliant soul makes sense, along with how it was able to endure in the face of the winds of the ever changing Emperyan!

This is the echo of a primarch's mind! Another brother. Emotion floods your minds, nearly shaking your from your meditation and ending your astral wanderings as tears of silver moonlight and golden fire fall from your cheeks. You have a second brother! Now you need to rethink the ordering of Magnus, this unknown sibling and yourself!

You wait at the gate, for an invitation. But you are not approached.
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>>5044851

It is almost as if this second brother of yours is used to being judged and is thus unaware of your piercing attention

What do you do, Lieren?

>Project your spirit onto the world of this third Primarch and make contact to him directly. This may be an exhausting effort, but you know it to be possible by your father and Magnus' feats in psykerism

>Observe the garden and ponder the meanings of the statues, trying to understand this nameless brother through his works rather than his words.

>Sit down before the gates and wait, showing proper etiquette and restraint.

>Rush to Magnus' sanctuary! tell him that you've found a third brother and ask for his assistance in contacting him

>Write in

Also sorry for the late update. Halloween festivities exhausted me.
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>>5044853
>>Sit down before the gates and wait, showing proper etiquette and restraint.
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>>5044853
>>Sit down before the gates and wait, showing proper etiquette and restraint.

Pert Muh Boy. Its good to finally have a chance to meet you.
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>>5044853
>Sit down and wait.
>Ponder the meaning of the statues as we wait.
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>>5044853
>>Sit down before the gates and wait, showing proper etiquette and restraint.
>>Write-in
Being reinspired, mentally reforge our first guandao as to how we would now. From one craftsman to another, let our works show our soul.
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>>5044853
>>>Sit down before the gates and wait, showing proper etiquette and restraint.
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>>5044853
>>Sit down and wait.
>>Ponder the meaning of the statues as we wait.
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>>5044853
>Observe the garden and ponder the meanings of the statues, trying to understand this nameless brother through his works rather than his words.
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>>5044853
>Sit down before the gates and wait, showing proper etiquette and restraint.
Maybe knock on the door, or otherwise give him a heads up.
BROTHERRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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>>5044853
> Observe the garden and ponder the meanings of the statues, trying to understand this nameless brother through his works rather than his words.
> Sit down before the gates and wait, showing proper etiquette and restraint.
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>Rush to Magnus' sanctuary! tell him that you've found a third brother and ask for his assistance in contacting him

FAMILY REUNION!
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>>5044853
>Observe the garden and ponder the meanings of the statues, trying to understand this nameless brother through his works rather than his words.
>Sit down before the gates and wait, showing proper etiquette and restraint.
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If this is Lieren's impression of Perturbo's mind is, I wonder what his brothers would make of his?
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>>5044853
>>Observe the garden and ponder the meanings of the statues, trying to understand this nameless brother through his works rather than his words.
>>Sit down before the gates and wait, showing proper etiquette and restraint.
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>>5044853
>Observe the garden and ponder the meanings of the statues, trying to understand this nameless brother through his works rather than his words.
>>5044819
Malal once again proving he is based.
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>>5044874
Support
but also knock on the gate to let him know we are here.
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>>5044853
>Sit down before the gates and wait, showing proper etiquette and restraint.
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>>5045028
I will support knocking on the door, it's the polite option.
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>>5044853
>>Observe the garden and ponder the meanings of the statues, trying to understand this nameless brother through his works rather than his words.
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>>5044853
>>Observe the garden and ponder the meanings of the statues, trying to understand this nameless brother through his works rather than his words.
>>Sit down before the gates and wait, showing proper etiquette and restraint.
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>>5045006
probably a vibrant field (or town) with many healthy and happy people working together in it.
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>>5045006
The village of Nothing, with the Chen Dao academy nearby and surrounded by a forest.
But intead of dirt it's concrete, to show how he turned his mechanical mind into something natural.
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>>5045299
Not even close. Lieren is a man of contradictions and none of what you suggest even remotely reflects that. On top of his various contradictions he has the most soulfuckery out of all of the Primarchs with the golden eyes, golden sea, silver moonlight, cultivation, and the cycle without end which will all show up somehow along side the Journey. Lieren would probably have the weirdest soul and mind out of anyone in this quest.
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>>5045321
Than describe it anon, instead of disagreeing.
Let those creative juices flow.
You saw nothing
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>>5045321
We still have that golden orb that was forming in us when we went balls to the walls training I believe. Never did push through to the next level.
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>>5044853
>Observe the garden and ponder the meanings of the statues, trying to understand this nameless brother through his works rather than his words.

>Sit down before the gates and wait, showing proper etiquette and restraint.

We show great respect to all our brothers, No reason ot change it now.
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>>5045335
>Never did push through to the next level
I thought our jaunt through Retconnian got us our limit break?
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>>5045006
I would imagine his mind to be a great, open forest, wild and sprawling. Upon closer inspection though, one might notice that all the vegetation is carefully trimmed, from the biggest branch to the smallest blade of grass. It all LOOKS wild and untouched, but in truth everything is carefully measured and calibrated, as though cared for by mysterious gardener.
This would reflect his love of nature, as well as his great attention to detail and methodical mind.
The corpses of tyrants and empty nooses hang from the trees, a reminder of all those he has judged, and those who are next.
There might be a small hovel in the middle, portraying his humility, with trinkets from his brothers and friends adorning the furniture.
I would picture the sky to feature a golden sun and silver moon, yet everything is covered in darkness as though it were night, or some other similar paradoxical sight.
Probably more you could come up with to insert here.

>>5045327
I saw it.
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>>5045346
We actually didn't limit break. We just got the mark of sacrifice and some qi or what ever from Arianka. Didn't actually break through considering how lieren isn't noted to be considerably stronger.
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>>5045356
Even if we didn't we still have 3 more tries.
Gotta catch 'em all
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>>5045321
Imagine a psyker getting high after looking into the mind of Lieren.
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>>5045360
I suspect limit breaking would turn is into some weird kind of warp being. Since you know, the usually result of that is getting daemon princed from what I can tell.
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>>5045367
Imagine if Lieren managed to become a warp being, but still mantain his physical presence/body?
It would probably be overpowered as fuck.
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>>5045374
>implying we wont be a minor god by the time YabadAbadon goes past Cadia
The Shuni are 2 steps away from worshiping us imagine what will happen when we spread the Journey to the galaxy
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>>5045335
>Never did push through to the next level.
We did. The whole deal with meeting Malal and resisting the 4 chaos gods was the breakthrough.
>>5045367
That's incorrect. Nascent Soul is far away from that point. See what you are thinking of is Immortal level which is basically perpetualhood with conceptual bullshit powers and beyond Immortal is godhood.
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>>5045408
>That's incorrect. Nascent Soul is far away from that point. See what you are thinking of is Immortal level which is basically perpetualhood with conceptual bullshit powers and beyond Immortal is godhood.
and yet we didn't get noticably stronger. If we had gone for the break through originally we could have beaten Kamal in pure psyker power. Instead we still had to trick him into basically poisoning himself.
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>>5045431
>and yet we didn't get noticably stronger.
What are you talking? Lieren was casually stomping armies of Daemons and Chaos Spawn and made Nityah feel like an ant with raw psyker power isn't enough for you?
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>>5045435
Stop dodging the point you coward. When we could have originally broken through we could have taken Kamal 1v1 psyker power wise with no need to trick him. That wasn't the case after our supposed "breakthrough" we had with malal.

I don't give a fuck about your "but wat about the daemon armies and chaos spawn and this one peep".

Original break through was mentioned to have actually made us powerful wise as a psyker that we could fight Kamal without leveraging some thing to fuck him over like Wuxking or getting him to eat our essence. That was not what happened after we had our trip to the warp. There fore we either didn't break thorugh or we did and didn't come out strong enough to fight Kamal without tricking him.
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>>5045441
Nah, we didn't break through during the Malal tribulation.

we advanced by inches, instead of miles with our training but couldn't go all the way. Not a sad loss really.
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>>5045441
Before our breakthrough our heart stopped for 11 seconds when we fought him. We killed him, but also died.
After it we trashed him effortlessly (it helps that we prepared, stopped his ritual and chose good options)
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>>5045444
yes cause we knew better then trying to get into a power struggle with him and instead fucking tricked him to fuck him over via techniques. Breaking through was explicitly noted to not require us to do that.
>>5045443
Like this guy said we didn't actually breakthrough, instead we got access to some major bullshit that we haven't had a chance to really fuck with yet in the power of Aranaka that we got for ourself.
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Should mention that having a mingling of god and mortals in us is going to actually turbo piss off Khorne cause it's everything he hates about sorcery. Khorne's opinion on sorcery is literally mortals stealing from the gods and infringing upon something they shouldn't.
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>>5045441
>Original break through was mentioned to have actually made us powerful wise as a psyker that we could fight Kamal without leveraging some thing to fuck him over like Wuxking or getting him to eat our essence. That was not what happened after we had our trip to the warp. There fore we either didn't break thorugh or we did and didn't come out strong enough to fight Kamal without tricking him.
This is some retarded logic.
>implying Lieren wouldn't use the guaranteed win tactic that would also let him save the souls as well every single time
Think about you are saying here.
>>5045443
The tribulation is literally caused by breaking through. Hell the only reason he wasn't at full power was he still needed to recover from 4 gods blasting him and Khorne's little rampage.
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>>5045449
>This is some retarded logic.
>>implying Lieren wouldn't use the guaranteed win tactic that would also let him save the souls as well every single time
>Think about you are saying here.
the only retarded logic here is you ignoring that Lieren thought he couldn't take Kamal without tricking him even after the supposed "breakthrough". It's not a matter of the souls he ate cause yeah lieren would take the method that would let him save them it's that he couldn't just unga bunga kamal into the ground.
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>>5045449
And before you accuse me of whining about "muh power" it has nothing to do with that. I don't gib a shit about how strong we are beyond noticing shit's not matching up with what the qm told us back when we have the first option.
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>>5045452
>>5045453
Heaven Tribulations exist as a reaction to someone trying to breakthrough but if you need evidence you have to check the golden core and see if it turned into a baby.
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So I looked at the archives, and I can't find anything definitive on Lieren saying that he would have beaten Kamal the first time. What I did find is Lieren saying that he hoped he would, and it was during his anime training montage.
What I did find however, is Malal repeatetly saying that the tribulation option would be possible in the future, and than calling what we went trough a tribulation.
Since tribulations are breakthroughs no matter what, we probably achieved tge next level anyway.
The traininf option probably menat that we would have faced an easier tribulation, since we would have prepared for it (our breakthrough was an accident of ressurecting Malal after all), and that the only reason our new power doesn't feel ultra powerful is because we chose to mix our Chi with Arianka's moonlight, instead of picking an option for combat.
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>>5045468
Mixing it with hers is probably the more bullshit thing in the long run since we now have both teh chi/energies of a god and mortal. I imagine we opened up a method to true killing daemons.
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>>5045475
*another method. I imagine however that if we refine our sight enough we could, theoretically, find their true names and then speak them as they die
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>>5045475
I think that too, we basically gave up raw power or great utility for an ability that is by itself useless, but let us pull more bullshit, like allowing us to poison Kamal with pure Yin and giving us better control of Wuxing for example.
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>>5045468
>>5045462
My argument is that the first breakthrough was about his body getting stronger and mind getting faster.

We did not peruse that, so we did not get that.
The results of the second tribulation are completely unrelated to our training.
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>>5045504
That's not how tribulation or cultivation level works, but let's ignore that part, and focus on your argument.
I did not say that our training affected the results, but Lieren and the options (that are flavoured following his mind and context) said that he would face a tribulation to face Kamal because he was in the training mindset of must get stronger.
I can't find where Lieren or Malal says that if we went thorugh thebfirst breakthrough we would get more powerful, but what I can find is Malal directly saying that a tribulation was still an option in the future.
Also, we got multiple different types of boons to pick, some of them were physical upgrades, like the vessel (the more chi your body has, the more phisically stronger you are. And that was basically infinite chi), or raw psyker power (the fire), or utility (sea or refining).
The moonlight option won, and what it did was to make so Lieren has Yin chi in equal amounts to his natural pure Yang, meaning he can change to fire, metal and Earth at will, and also giving him some of that heaven chi (hopefully, if Malal integrates the 3 confucian elementa as well in the future).
So the reason we didn't become super sayan Lieren is because we chose the trickery upgrade, instead of pure power.
Although we seemed to get stronger anyway, as is the benefit to going into the next level, because we did style on Kamal directly, before poisoning him.
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You guys keep calling nitya Kamal, Kamal is the asshole khornate guy with the batshit sister of kanzeons, and his ass is still alive. Nitya is the dude we exploded and hung with warp fuckery, get shit straight.
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>>5045530
Anon...
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I think there is a misunderstand regarding the boons and curses. We got the curse because of Malal and the boon because of Arianka, more specifically we got them because even a Primarch can mutate when exposed to enough warpshit and certain types of cultivation can allow the user to "control" how they "mutate".
Also people misunderstand the nature of Yin and Yang. Everything is made out of some combination of Yin and Yang, literally everything in existence. Hell one of the earliest creation myths in China has the creation of Yin and Yang be part of the origin of how the world was created.
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Honestly, we might only really know the truth if Malal tell us, because otherwise it's just speculation.
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>>5045552
Wait, I found some posts from Malal:

Not even a Xianxia thing. It's purely a warhammer thing viewed through Lieren's eyes.

You got bathed in the combined energies of four fucking chaos gods trying to break your will in a gambit to corrupt you, and then endured Khorne attempting to destroy you while he threw a tantrum.

In the depths of the warp. Like really deep in there

Now what happens in 40k when someone gets exposed to warp energy, especially a lot of it?

Mutation. Which Primarchs are not immune to.

Remember how Lieren reacts to any form of Chaos corruption? And How he tends to describe what he sees in an at times overly poetic manner?

Its a mutation not a magical curse, though the definition is often blurred in both Warhammers.

Its happening because Lieren did not break beneath the full weight of Chaos, and survived the blood god's murder attempt. Lieren didn't block the "tribulation" until Khorne flipped the board after the four were unable to dent Lieren's resolve and tried to heal rather than harm.

Its a battle scar, not a punishment. Holy shit.


And this too:


Liar's eye. One of Lieren's eyes blackens and becomes to reverse of his other eye, seeing only what is untrue/ false.

Ogre's mask. Lieren's body, his face especially becomes more like an ogre in cruel mockery of his well restrained rage.

Time's burden: Lieren is supernaturally aged until he appears to be a greatly venerable sage, around Guozhi age.

Discordant Essence, Lieren's spiritual energy/ signature becomes discordant and upsets balances and worsen imbalances in the Emperyan's winds. Basically altering the elements around him and within him to different forms/ into conflict. Think of it like him subsuming the vortex of raw discord he devised that woke up Malal. Makes him MORE of a walking paradox.

Bounties. These are happening BECAUSE you basically fed yourself to a god of Law, but survived because Paradox soul.

Heart of tender moonlight. In healing Arianka and the brief connection between their beings, Lieren has taken some of her "moonlight" into his fire. Which basically means Lieren has access to that "Yin" energy alongside his own "Yang".

Soul's fire, refined. Lieren's soul has been wrought and reforged through the trial he's undergone, refining it. Brings harmony to the paradox.

The vessel opened. Lieren sometimes refers to his or other's bodies as a "Vessel", he also does it when refer to his soul. This bounty refers to both. In that, his self and body are more separated and that the exchange of energies is more efficient.

The Gentle Giant's hateful glare. Lieren has seen to much shit he shouldn't see, that should drive him made, and he's stared at it long and hard. His piercing/burning glaze, is now literal if he focuses hard enough, literally tearing through what he looks at rather than metaphorically.
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>>5045569
So the boon is only because of Arainka because we chose it, there probably would be other reasons we another option won.
Also we disn't get mutated because we chose the option that was an actual curse.
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.... I'd we fought the chaos gods while actually honoring their virtues. All the while dunking on their sins.

Honor, courage and justice:Khorne
Hope, adaptability and wisdom:Tzeentch
Love, Endurance, and Life: Nurgle
Love, compassion and passion: Slaanesh

All the while opposing Malal, and honoring him as he is chaos opposing itself. Keeping itself in balance. We oppose chaos and keep it in balance.

We do this so hard that we accidentally turn ourselves into Malal's everchosen. None of the chaos gods want us. But because of our nature and actions, they cannot deny us. Thus the cancer chaos has become is slowly defeated because it's going to shift into a more benign existence.

Harmony for all.
Even empy thinks this idea is strange and wrong.

We ascending to Deity status. God of Harmony. Orderer of the hearts of men. All the while denying that we did.
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>>5045594
>We ascending to Deity status. God of Harmony.
God, I hope not
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In theory Lieren could just sit in a warp storm and use it's energy to get a bunch of boons. Though I'm interested in getting more fragments of enlightenment since the first one we got was pretty fun.
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>>5045524
I'm not disputing what we got. I just dont recognise those as breakthroughs, since we didnt train for them. I find the term to be a misnomer, and this may just be my lack of experience with the subject shining through.

The first chance we got would be a breakthrough, because we reached a plateau of training and had the option to get past it. Break through.

Our tribulation with malal was that demigod fuck trying to kill us out of spite. And we got a boon because we helped a goddess, not through any great effort to improve ourself.
Though you could sorta make a case for enlightenment breakthrough? I just find the term to be used incorrectly.
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>>5045605
What do you think cultivation is?
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>>5045605
Well, Malal called it a tribulation and breakthrough, so I treating it as those.
Also we fot the boon because of Arianka, because we chose the Arianka option. We got the curse being hatred of the chaos gods instead of a mutation, because we chose the option that was an actual curse.
A tribulation isn't when you train and than go through growing pains and pop out stronger, that's a normal, regular breakthrough.
A tribulation is when you get so strong, that the only way to advance foward is to face a challenge from the heavens.
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>>5045612
Oh, and a tribulation is a type of breakthrough, it's just for the most powerful levels of cultivators, when they need to chnmge from one of the huge plateau of powers.
When you go from regular magic human to true immortal, you got to face a tribulation, same when you go from immortal to some type of demigod, etc.
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>>5045610
Badly written chinese penny dreadfuls produced in sweatshop conditions, incentivising elaborate padsing and filler content with incredibly little value or readability.

Being less facetious, I think cultivation is a genre about a buncha chinese mysticism and mystic biological systems that are used and abused like a bad videogame engine to refine and expand ones life force in search of greater power and immortality, which heaven doesn't like you doing so hits you in the face every so often. You can survive it often dont.
That is about the extent of my knoweldge.

>>5045612
Right, so it's a term that means a big break through. Got it.
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>>5045623
Basically yeah.
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>>5045623
>Badly written chinese penny dreadfuls produced in sweatshop conditions, incentivising elaborate padsing and filler content with incredibly little value or readability.
You aren't wrong but some xianxia stories are decent.
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>>5044853
>>Observe the garden and ponder the meanings of the statues, trying to understand this nameless brother through his works rather than his words.
>knock so he knows someone is waiting.
>>Sit down before the gates and wait, showing proper etiquette and restraint.
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>>5044853
I'm enjoying that Pert won despite not voting earlier.

>Observe the garden and ponder the meanings of the statues, trying to understand this nameless brother through his works rather than his words.
>Sit down before the gates and wait, showing proper etiquette and restraint.
>Knock

I want Lieren to be ready to answer him in-kind. Especially if Lieren can mentally share the Small-Chen memorial and the technology embedded in the epitaph. Pert would really like that.
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>>5044853
>Observe the garden and ponder the meanings of the statues, trying to understand this nameless brother through his works rather than his words.

>Sit down before the gates and wait, showing proper etiquette and restraint.

Whelp I would have rather gone the Curze route but this works too if people's theories were correct on lieren originally supposed to be a tech based primarch rather then the psyker one he currently is, also Lieren would be the type to fall in love with a good fortress as it's represents being a guardian and a bulwark of humanity.
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>>5046048
By our intention from the pod, we were meant to be a tactical administrator. But screw those plans!
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>>5046059
>>5046048
Lieren was suppose to be multiple things.
Technician, General, and something else.
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>>5046059
I mean even still we kind of are, but we are all sorts of shit on top of that, hell with how excellent Lieren actually is he might accidentally highjack horus's warmaster spot, especially since the Emperor knows he is excellent.
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>>5046059
Don't forget mentat ultra autistic human calculator.
I wonder who would win in an number-crunching contest, Bob our Lieren.
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>>5044853
>Observe the garden and ponder the meanings of the statues, trying to understand this nameless brother through his works rather than his words.

>Sit down before the gates and wait, showing proper etiquette and restraint.
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>>5046065
>General
I mean, all of the Primarchs were.
>>5046071
>hell with how excellent Lieren actually is he might accidentally highjack horus's warmaster spot
I don't think so. Horus is a general, tactician, and leader of men nearly without peer. The Lion is his only real competitor in that regard, but his autism handicaps him. Lieren I see being appointed leader of some secret anti-chaos project, not the head of the Great Crusade. Perhaps, with one of his sons knowing and hating Chaos, Big E will make a sort of anti-Chaos task force we'll wind up leading. Something made up of the Ordos Sinister and Elucidatum and the Sisterhood. Maybe we'd be joined by a trusted brother or two. I'd call it a Shadow Crusade if the name wasn't already taken.
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>>5045448
lmfao fucking amgray

>>5045475
>>5045479
>Lieren insulting demons with their real names so hard they commit sedoku

>>5045572
imo the Heart of Tender Moonlight made the most sense after trying to heal her.

>>5045594
fuck my sides man

>>5045601
In theory yes, but he's just as likely to get an aneurism or massive head ache from that, plus maybe mutations.

So what's everyone's plan for Lieren's next cultivation, break through, training montage thing?
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>>5046145

We become Anathema to chaos. I imagine a miniature version of the emperor entering the webway where demons burn from our mere presence and golden light. Like, imagine wherever we go demons are drawn to us and suffer in our presence we don't even need to look at them. Its unconscious.
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>>5046161
OH NOOO THERE ARE TWO OF THEM!
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>>5046145
Yeah it did, I was team vessel but jumped ship to when Malal explained what each option meant.
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>>5046124
Plus I feel like Lieren is a little too kind-hearted to be Warmaster. If he was I feel like we would never deploy the night lords (unless they really changed)
On another note considering that the emperor usually chooses to let one of the Primrachs show another the ropes who do you think would we would partner up with (assuming we are still third found).
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>>5046145
No real need or impetus to train.
So probably expand our wisdom and psykerist techniques.

But I would actually prefer to refine and empower our martial prowess
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>>5046204
Technically he found us and Magnus first because of Malal shenanigans.

He hasn't even left earth right?
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>>5046204
>Plus I feel like Lieren is a little too kind-hearted to be Warmaster.
Indeed, we're not the man to lead the Crusade forward at any cost at a speed dad would deem appropriate. We'd take our time and prioritize minimalizing casualties instead of conquering, because that's not who we are.
>On another note considering that the emperor usually chooses to let one of the Primrachs show another the ropes who do you think would we would partner up with
Pert or Magnus would be good choices since we already know (or will soon meet) them. Aside from them I can see him either pairing us with Fulgrim, Sanguinius, Roboute, Vulkan (once he's done with him), and Corax if he wants us to be complimentary and with Mortarion, Lorgar, Lion, Curze, or nail!Angron if he wants us to be correctionary. That is, assuming they all are found in similar states to the way they were in canon.
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>>5046213
Maybe we will end up with Ferrus because he was the fourth found.
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>>5046218
Maybe. I always assumed that the first few primarchs got more attention and time with dad than the later ones and that they were shown the ropes by him personally. Makes me wonder about how we'd get on with Ferrus though. His whole hyperdarwinism schtick might remind us of Cui Fu.
>>5046206
>Technically he found us and Magnus first because of Malal shenanigans.
IIRC Magnus thought to himself that our soul reminded us of Dad's when he first sensed us, so he was the first contacted, just as in canon. Fetus skype time remains the first Emps-Primarch interaction.
>He hasn't even left earth right?
Not yet, but there's a very small amount of time between the Crusade kicking off and him finding Horus. You can get to Cthonia from Terra without a warp-capable ship (which means it's probably Proxima b).
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>>5046206
No he didn t, things are barely started after all. He should be able to finish the rest of earth states in the following years, even if by last Terra prospective update we have seen, they should be more or less done or almost done. When they complete it, the Emperor will work for a while in bringing Earth to a decent standard for the next step. Which is the conquest of the inner solar system. He will begin with the stations orbiting Earth and then invade Luna, unless in this timeline an accord can be made between him and the rulers of luna (gene specialists, can t remember their name). After that there is Venus, Mercury and of course Mars and his moons. Then with the treaty done with Mars, there is the rest of the solar system. Then Crusade preparations can begin, though if i remember correctly the external part of the solar system was sort of plagued by alien raiders, so he will kill those as well.
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>>5044853
Here's hoping that Pert doesn't get pissed off by the overly flowery way we talk.
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>>5046291
The Selenar and their genewitches.
An accord would be extremely difficult because the Emperor is demanding from them the object of their workship, and what their entire society is built around, the Magna Mater.
And different from the cult mechanicus, the emperor can just force them to hand it over. Maybe if he botters reading the journey he will try a softer appproach, unless he decides that the High Matriarch is tyrant anyway.
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After learning how Kanzeon was created, I feel like our Dad is less likely to outright try to kill her since shes like a servitor but a million times better. Shes gotta human soul, is capable of empathy, and hates the chaos gods as much as I do. I really hope we can get the Emperor's blessing for our marriage, and perhaps spare some of Kanzeon's sisters.
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>>5046450
>and perhaps spare some of Kanzeon's sisters.
Gotta clean out the corruption first.
>I feel like our Dad is less likely to outright try to kill her since shes like a servitor but a million times better
Now that you mention it I wonder if it is possible to give a weapon, armor, planet bound vehicle, or some other piece of technology a soul.
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>>5046465
Yes too all of those. Demons can possess weapons (Lier Blade), vehicles (demonic engines), and world souls are a thing (weird eldari stuff). If those exist, then the same should be possible for nonchaos oriented souls. The problem is that it would be very boring for whatever souls bound to those things imo.
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>>5046470
Fulgrim's soul got trapped in a painting and was there until BL decided to simplify his character and roll back the Dorian Gray parallels. No, I'm not bitter, why do you ask?
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>>5046465
silly anon machines already possess spirits :)
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>>5046501
So sayeth the Omnissiah
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>>5046501
The one we wanna marry has a better one then most.
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>>5046501
>>5046505
I always did like the description of machine spirits in the Warp that we got from Plague War
>Tanks were lambent outlines illuminated by the souls within like paper lanterns. Titans were huge, wicker men afire in pagan ritual, their own strange machine beings bright with half-realised life. The mass of infantry coming behind was an ocean of bobbing dots, luminous creatures in nighttime surf, secret yet exposed.
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So- How are we going to exorcise demon with a single sentence? I figured that we would add on to the Journey a bunch of passages and mantras meant to promote virtue and denounce the Ruinous Powers. If enough people believe in it then eventually it should have some effect.
All I really want is for Lieren to say something to a greater demon and have it BTFO'd from existence.
>"Isn't it so sad that Steve Jobs died of ligma?"
>"Actually, Steve Jobs died of health complications due to cancer-"
>"LIGMA BALLS"
>Tzeech screams in not as planned.
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Calling the vote now. Sorry for the wait.

Sit down before the gates and wait, showing proper etiquette and restraint.:18

Observe the garden and ponder the meanings of the statues, trying to understand this nameless brother through his works rather than his words.: 15

Being reinspired, mentally reforge our first guandao as to how you would now. From one craftsman to another, let your works show your soul.: 1

Rush to Magnus' sanctuary! tell him that you've found a third brother and ask for his assistance in contacting him:1

Knock:5

Total votes: 22

So Lieren will respectfully wait outside of the gate, while contemplating the garden and the meanings of the statue to gain insight into his brother's mind

Writing now

>>5046346
>Pert meets fulgrim in this time line
>Fuck there's two of them now.
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>>5046694
>Pert meets fulgrim in this time line
>Fuck there's two of them now.
>Fulgrim hates us because we're TOO flowery
>Pert hates both because of the flower
>Fulgrim and Pert end up bonding over mutual hatred of flower talk.
>Fulgrim ends up a Pert light.
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>>5046707
> "Brother...this blade. It is exquisite, is it not?"
> "Pfff, fuck that twinkly knife-ear bullshit! YO BOYS, WE NEED MORE ARTILLERY OVER HERE!!"
> Fulgrim's complaints are completely smothered by the sounds of glorious shelling and the enemy reduced to ash
> "Mmmm, yeah. Pert likes."
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>>5046713
unrelated but I just realized. We've route locked ourselves out of friendship with Khan AND Vulcan.
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>>5046719
How so? I can't see how we wouldn't be friends with either. We can easily bond with Khan via gifting him Primarch tier horses, kirins, or dragon mounts. With Vulcan we're both friends of the people sans the fire.
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>>5046724
Our elder followers. Both have had vengences against the Dark Eldar and by extension are "Kill first" order no matter what side they are on. Which is understandable. DEldar are cocks after all.

Then again we've had a good time so far so maybe we'll get lucky.
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>>5046719

How? I know that we're friends with Aeldari but even the Khan and Vulcan will realize we specifically target tyrants and we still will have a grudge with the drukkhari.

I know primarchs are a little autistic in their thinking but come on we care about the people which Vulcan would actually love since he cared about people. With the Khan I dunno we can gift him an aeldari inspired jetboard that Kanzeon can make so he can go fast like the hedgehog he is.
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>>5046739
It took vulcan massacuring an exodite eldar world to realize that oh shit there are different groups of eldar and what he did was fucked up.
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>>5046741
Lieren's gonna die a little when he realizes his nicest, kindest brother likes to burn little girls alive.
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>>5046748
I honestly see lieren having a lot of issues with many of his brothers for the fucked up shit they will do and do without a care really. He's just well, to kind and empathic to not care and be upset about it.
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>>5046739
You gotta step up your game.
We'll give him a primarch sized horse, but the horse with be augmented to be faster, stronger, and more nimble. The icing on the cake would be implanting it with the same flying technology the eldari use.
>fly space marine horses are a go.

>>5046741
It's a good thing we're here to point out the differences to him.

>>5046748
>Lieren fucking bawling his eyes out when he seeks the charred remains of eldar children
>notices they're on the cusp of death so he cradles them until they pass on, just so they don't feel alone
fuck my heart, my soul.
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>>5046729
I mean, Lieren also has a vendetta against Dark Eldar now given their escapades on Shangrala.
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>>5046748
We'll end up having a chat with Vulcan while having smores on the acceptable amount of fire to be used.
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>>5046752
We very well might be the first (second maybe, considering Russ) alcoholic Primarch. Living in the Imperium is going to test us daily.
>>5046754
>And so, Lieren of Nothing began his own slow and tragic descent into the maw of the Primordial Annihilator...
>>5046756
>Dear brother, my eyes see that you're struggling with the internalization of this simple concept, so I will go over it once more. TURNING. CHILDREN. INTO. BRIQUETTES. IS. WRONG.
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Also the biggest clash Lieren is going to have that is going to actually piss off a lot of his brothers is the fact he doesn't view himself as better then mortal men. Like, that was a huge thing with the primarchs. A lot of them hated the high lords cause they didn't think mortal men should be above them. Same thing with a lot of space marines too.
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>>5046761
Literally too humble for his own good no one can stop this mad lad
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>>5046762
It's not that he's humble, cause in the end he actually has the same exact mindset the emperor had before GW blackwashed his ass. The primarch's were never intended to rule humanity. And Lieren is literally the only primarch that see's anything wrong with them ruling over them.
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>>5046761
Which is why we're gonna be father's favourite. I mean even with the oopsy with malal and our gestalt soul conscious fiance.
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>>5046770
I love that this very mindset can be traced back to his very first moments of life.
When he saw those starving villagers, he didn't just feed them, he taught them to feed themselves. Even now he's doing the same except on a grander level- not to master others but to make them masters of themselves.
This all has me very emotional. Lieren's feelings are strong and sincere.
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>>5046774
You can honestly trace it back to him eating human brains right out of the pod since it gave him a ton of memories and well human perceptive from day zero.
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>>5046770
>The primarch's were never intended to rule humanity. And Lieren is literally the only primarch that see's anything wrong with them ruling over them.
Even the Lion, who was the least removed from the original vision of the Primarchs, suffered from this. Vulkan and Sanguinius are the only ones who come close to us in this regard.
>>5046772
>Which is why we're gonna be father's favourite.
We won't be openly recognized as such, if that comes to pass. It'll create too much ill will between him and the rest of his sons who don't think like we do, give them a common enemy to unite around, even unofficially. He needs to think politically, just as he did when appointing Horus Warmaster.
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>>5046778
I should have specified it wouldn't be openly recognised. Though i could see us having a longer trial period due to discussing the journey and its application for the imperium instead of or with the imperial truth.

I do kinda want the emperor to let us act us as therapist for the others. I could see us being the sounding board for the troublesome primarchs to be sent to.
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Honestly I hope we can get into postion to do stuff like protect that one species that made a flortilla with humans during the age of strife and lived with them peacefully and as equals.

All they wanted was to be left alone.
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>>5046777
>You can honestly trace it back to him eating human brains right out of the pod since it gave him a ton of memories and well human perceptive from day zero.
i'msorrywhatidon'trememberlierendoingthispleaseprovidesaucewtf

>>5046783
The interex, or am I thinking of something else?
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>>5046785
The earliest thing he did when hatching out of his pod was eating some dude's brains.
And no he doesn't mean Interex.
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>>5046782
>Though i could see us having a longer trial period due to discussing the journey and its application for the imperium instead of or with the imperial truth.
I can too, though even that is breeding ground for resentment. No child likes seeing their sibling get more parental attention.
>I do kinda want the emperor to let us act us as therapist for the others.
I hope Angron won't become a roidmonster so we don't have to.
>>5046785
The Diasporex. The Interex were the ones that lived alongside the space!Orangutans who aren't Jokero. Horus tried to bring them into the fold but his plans got EREBUSED.
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>>5046789
Bullshit. Text or it didn't happen.
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>>5046785
>The interex, or am I thinking of something else?
Diasporex

>>5046785
>i'msorrywhatidon'trememberlierendoingthispleaseprovidesaucewtf

>Some claimed it was the shell of a great dragon, others a cage to hold a devil from causing mischief and murder, others even thought it may have been merely a strange gem fallen from a goddess' brooch. But while they worked and toiled, you survived on your coded instincts and knowledge, learning from the charred flesh left in the wake of your gestation pod, and surviving off the farm animals that had remained free and out of their pens since your arrival. And the predators that thought you easy prey in your infancy.

>Such skills, gained from your first meals in your life, taught you how to survive and thrive even the cruel winter. but the inherited memories of the most unlucky of farmers, brought with them a sorrow. A feeling born from their memories. Of devastation of famine, the love of a family, the struggle to live in such a state. And though you survived in the wilderness, growing for some time on your own, the remnants of those slain by your landing drove you to seek companionship outside of the wild creatures you had preyed upon. You had an urge to live among other men , of which you only knew by inborn knowledge and genetic teaching, both from your creation whatever it may be and the stolen memories of the dead. A desire for a community, a family, burned in your heart, your mind, your very soul.

Like I said, Lieren literally ate humans from day 1 and got all their memories.
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>>5046789
>But while they worked and toiled, you survived on your coded instincts and knowledge, learning from the charred flesh left in the wake of your gestation pod, and surviving off the farm animals that had remained free and out of their pens since your arrival.
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>>5046790
>>I hope Angron won't become a roidmonster so we don't have to
>looks at Curze and Lorgar
>remembers that most of the Primarch tend to be neurotic or disfunctional in some way
Yeah about that.
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Now I'm curious would charred flesh or even cooked human flesh affect the ability to get information from it for a primarch?
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>>5046793
Holy fuck how did I forget this? Jesus. . .
I wonder if we can thank that guy for providing us a head start in our wisdom.
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>>5046800
Depends if the brain is intact. Cause that's the organ you need to eat for it.
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>>5046799
>>remembers that most of the Primarch tend to be neurotic or disfunctional in some way
Almost like an empath would help fix those or something...
>>5046802
>inb4 it was our adopted brother
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>>5046802
there's implications that it was our adoptive father's son too btw. Or at least one of the people he nommed on was.
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>>5046805
Omg is that how we were able to draw wenyan's wife and son?
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>>5046804
>>5046805
. . . It's almost ironic?
L-Let's look for him in the Empyrean and thank him anyways.
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>>5046808
Or pod did kill his son when it came down. Whether or not we ate him and his brains is another story. But Lieren feels or has felt guilt over that knowledge while interacting with Wenyan.
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>>5046795
kind of fucked up, but also has that lol energy.
you are after what you eat.

>>5046804
>inb4 it was our adopted brother
ha ha ha now I'm very sad.

>>5046805
>>5046808
>>5046812
>sadness increasing
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>>5046814
>you are after what you eat.
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Well no matter. It would be intrude into one's home without invitation, and ruder yet to wander through the shadow of their soul without alerting them to your presence. And seeing no way of doing so without abandoning basic etiquette and acting disrespectfully towards the man who must be your brother, you simply sit before the gate, crossing your legs as you enter to lotus position and press your hands onto your knees. Patience is a virtue after all, eventually the owner of this astral garden will notice your presence and either meet you in the Emperyan or call you to manifest upon his world. There's no cause for rashness or hastiness. So you will simply sit and wait to be approached by your recently discovered brother, to reveal your relation and greet him as family and hopefully a friend.

But to keep your mind occupied and from wandering into strange places, you decided to pass the time by studying and contemplating the well maintained garden of this second brother's soul and subconscious mind. The statues especially draw your attention, demanding a closer inspection. An artist puts his soul into his work more so than any craftsman or engineer, except perhaps weapon smiths. Pressing your knuckles against your chin, you lean forward and narrow your eyes as you evaluate each of the expertly carved statues in turn, one after the other. In lifeless stone, the feelings that moved the hands which carved it can be seen more clearly than any signature or stamp. Even if one follows exact instructions, the emotions they held as they chiseled and cut will express themselves after a suitably long study and inspection of the subtler features of the marble body, particularly its face and pose. Like the mannerism of a living man, artwork to has tells that can be used to reveal the pieces deeper meaning and symbolism, as well as the character of its creator.

Frowning, you instantly spot a pattern. From statue to statue, the dominant emotion changes, which is strange as inspiration derived from a muse or passion rarely undergo such a drastic change, yet alone so suddenly as between one work and another. in some pieces, your brother is tirelessly seeking perfection and thus creates empty statues that are empty of emotion, while in others he is more relaxed in his approach and makes works that while less skillfully made make up for the deficiencies of technique by being filled with emotion and philosophical thought. Both halves of his art are magnificent, one is represented of tireless practice and talent, and the other a sign of cultured man whose passionate in sharing with the world his idea of beauty and splendor.

If you had to guess, your yet unmet second brother is ether of mercurial, often changing personality, afflicted by mood swings and sudden changes of mood and temperament, or he is similar to you, and grapples with a innately mechanical mind that has made itself more personable and human.
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Fun fact. There's implications that eldar might have been the aliens that Arngron fought right out of his pod.

You know the ones that left him fucked up enough to be captured.
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>>5046823

Either explanation would explain the sudden shifts in his art style and carving technique, as well as the discrepancies between the war torn trenches surrounding his soul's keep and the serene garden within. Both are carefully constructed and maintained, but for different reasons. But men are creatures of many contradictions. It is not so strange for a warrior to have a poet's soul, and the opposite is also not unusual.

Sitting calmly, you continue admiring the works of your distant brother primarch, pondering the intent of his works, both in art and war. It is truly an intriguing combination of skills, but one that is not unknown to you. But then again, Long-Jia culture is poetic and praises the pursuit of elegance and artisic endeavors. Perhaps the idea of a warrior poet is a unknown concept upon other worlds, that an architect could be as skillful in creating beauty as he was in creating efficient, near impenetrable defenses. Rapping your knuckles against your chin, you continue pondering the many mysteries your contemplation has raised in regards to your brother's mentality and character.
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Perturabo worked tirelessly in his personal workshop, into the breaking of dawn through the night. With quill and ink he sketched, detailed and improved the designs of fantastically advance technology, vehicles, weaponry, fortresses and vessels. The knowledge and understanding of which was as instinctual to him as breathing and combat. Even upon olympia, there existed no technology or knowledge that even approached what Perturabo had known and comprehended from his birth. With relentless efficiency, he sketched, drawing the schematics that constantly lingered in the back of his conscious mind, putting them to paper down to the smallest most inconsequential detail. He knew he would one day have the opportunity to create such wonderous constructs, bringing them from vision into reality. A clock he had made himself, in an idle fit of whimsy, sat besides figures he had carefully carved depicting the worthless generals of his adoptive father's army, in varying states of distress or incompetence.

The young primarch dipped his pen in ink again, turning it in a methodical manner to dry it enough so it was suitable for writing and would not mar the diagram he had been working on for the past hour. Adjusting the parchment with a press of his fingers he returned to his work, knowing that no one in his father's court would appreciate the intricacy and genius of the design he put to paper, even if he was able to construct it with the meager industry and resources of the world through some wild miracle. He paused, checking and remeasuring the bow of the frigate of another diagram, adjusting it as by a glance he realized he could further improve its construction by removing unnecessary weight and redistributing it to serve as armor, without increasing the cost of production.

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>>5046827

Tapping the light of a flickering lamp, he calculated it'd be rendered unusable in a matter of days and should be replaced with a more energy efficient filament or perhaps replaced entirely. It would be barely a distraction to improve such an uninspired design, perhaps come tomorrow he'd redesign the entirety of the city's energy grid to cut down its consumption of fuel and electricity. His schedule would allow for such a reprieve from his other duties and personal projects. It wouldn't take any exertion on his part anyways.

He moved to draw the new schematics that rushed from his memories to his mind's eye before pausing. Something almost imperceptible in the air had changed, altered.

Beneath the oppressive sensation of being judged, he sensed contemplation. But not the contemplation of a critic, or simpleton struggling to understand the world around him, but rather that of an artist admiring the work of one of his peers. As distant as the Eye that haunted his dreams, yet nearer. He set his pen down, adjusting it to bring it in line with the nearest schematic, methodically organized his work space and turn his chair to face the doorway.

And so no one, and certainly no fellow admirer of high culture and its arts. He tapped a finger upon the arm of his rotatable chair, and narrowed his eyes. there was a presence, he was being watched and analyzed with consideration and curiosity rather than cold judgement and disdain.

Curling his hand into a half clenched fist he raised his head

"Who goes there?" He called out, feeling foolish the moment after he spoke. Who did he expect to reply? The wind? The ghost of some forgotten poet? A distant relation that had some how discovered a method to render themselves imperceptible. Foolish...utterly foolish
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How do you reply, Lieren?

>"A humble farmer and hunter, whose interest you have caught. May I know your name, Architect?"

>"A Curious scholar who was awed by the works of your subconscious mind. So I've come to meet you"

>"A philosopher contemplating the universe, that is the honest truth. May I ask what YOU are doing?"

>"Lieren of Nothing, I believe myself to be your brother. I've been waiting for your to notice me"

>Write in
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>>5046828
Man, choosing what to pick without triggering Bo's autism is difficult.
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>>5046828
>"A humble farmer and hunter, whose interest you have caught. May I know your name, Architect?"
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>>5046828
>>"Lieren of Nothing, I believe myself to be your brother. I've been waiting for your to notice me"
I like that Pert has a gaming chair.
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>>5046835
>Perturabo the Gamer
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>>5046840
>People of Olympia, behold my newest technological marvel: The backlit mechanical keyboard!
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Oh man. I had forgotten that Pert is the one primarch that canonically learns shit as fast as Lieren does.

So that's something else to bond with him over.
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>>5046842
>No longer will you be forced to play in the dark! Now we shall the keys with our own RGB light!
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>>5046828
>Write in
>"A brother of yours, one of many torn from our cradle of humanity, thrown far from our place of birth just as you have. Forgive me for my delay in etiquette, but I am called Lieren of Nothing, a hunter, farmer, and fellow artisan. As foolish as it is for me to ask, but may I help you with your work?"
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>>5046846
>>5046828
Supporting this.
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>>5046830
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>>5046828
>"Lieren of Nothing, I believe myself to be your brother. I've been waiting for your to notice me"
>"A Curious scholar who was awed by the works of your subconscious mind. So I've come to meet you"
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>>5046846
Support
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>>5046846
Support

Its nice to show we multitask as well.
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>>5046828
>"Lieren of Nothing, I believe myself to be your brother. I've been waiting for your to notice me"
>>5046846
Calling yourself a farmer to Perty is a terrible idea. Seriously remember who you are talking too.
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the biggest difference between us and pert is pert has known all his scientific knowledge from birth while we just learn shit insanely fast.
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>>5046865
More like he also gains it on sight.
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>>5046864
Nah, gotta remember anon, Pert's an architect. A properly designed farm is a fucking beauty of landscaping and design.
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>>5046866
Not really? Pert from his first memory has just known how to design and build hyper advanced technology and had his architectal knowledge in his noggin.
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>>5046828
>"A humble farmer and hunter, whose interest you have caught. May I know your name, Architect?"
It's clear he's an Architect at heart, let's address him as such.
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5046864
We could explain we have met another brother by chance who is more focused on psychic scholarly so all of the brothers have different abilitie.
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>>5046828
>"A Curious scholar who was awed by the works of your subconscious mind. So I've come to meet you"
>"Lieren of Nothing, I believe myself to be your brother. I've been waiting for your to notice me"
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>>5046828
>>"Lieren of Nothing, I believe myself to be your brother. I've been waiting for your to notice me"
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>>5046828
"I am Lieren born from a dragons egg as you were, raised upon a far off world, one by one finding my brothers. I was meditating looking upon the cruel eye and felt another gazing upon it? Was it you brother of mine?
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>>5043529
coming back to this post for a moment but you do remember that Roboute canonically faces four primarchs and of those four only loses to one and two others he draws even with and manages to get away and recover from those fights. and that reflects in his gameplay rules for the horus heresy game that forgeworld released. Only Horus, Leman, and Fulgrim are capable of beating him there.
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>>5046919
Neato. Who did he fight? How come I've only heard of this now?
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>>5046919
In terms of the tabletop, he also loses to Angron, Sanguinius, and Lion. And Lorgar if he's transfigured. And probably Magnus, but I can't find that matchup anywhere. And it's a tossup in a fight against Curze and the Khan if they HaR cheese. But this is all fairly moot, since fluff and crunch aren't really a 1:1.
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>>5046923
Let's see who I can remember off the top of my head. Lorgar is one. Fulgrim is another. He faces Mort post awakening and wins that fight via the emperor so I'm not sure how to count that. Oh and cruze who technically won that fight via dropping a building on Roboute's head but still proves my point about him beating or drawing others in single combat.

there's also potentially Alpherus but who knows if that was actually him.
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I've been doing a rereading on the various primarchs and their personality and holy shit if Leiren doesn't meet them early he's going to clash with most of them really fucking badly.

Leman's going to piss Lieren right the fuck off with his repeated hypcrispy. Also speaking of Leman the emperor made him a bullshit spear that's capable of purging chaos corruption out of people at the cost of soul damage which temp in WH40k anyway if they survive it.

Mort's going to just hate lieren for being an active psyker.

Other's won't like Lieren's attitude of humans are their equals and should be treated as such.

We are not going to be popular with our brothers.
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>>5046932
Everyone beats Lorgar, not sure how to feel about Mort or Fulgrim, Curze is insane, and no one knows with Alpha Omegon. I dont believe you when you say he fought all four of them at once. Wait didnt he get Bitch Made by Fulgrim via poison?
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Also funny enough both Khan and Lieren share a hated of tyrants. So that's something to bond over.
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>>5046938
Some of them at least. I think in universe some people were surprised how well Manus and Fulgrim got along, so who knows. I think Lieren might get along with Gorrilaman recently enough since Lierencactually knows how to file his own taxes.
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>>5046940
I never said he fought all four of them at once? Just of the primarchs he faced in single combat he lost to only one of them. Cruze had to drop a building on his ass.
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>>5046944
Also mentioned that fulgrim was one of the ones that beat his ass on table top.

Honestly, I think lieren is going to be one of the top combat primarchs despite not being combat hyper focused. Mainly cause despite his other interests lieren still fights a fucking lot and is at his core a hunter.
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>>5046364
Yes those ones.
Could happen, maybe no. Though he can read the journey upon us funnily enough, since is a worthy book he might consider some of his messages.

>>5046450
The only blessing we need is the one of Wenyan (which will likely only be given with the co-signed promise of making grandchildrens, in at least 5 years. Adoptions not included, he will not be fooled again).
Jokes aside (beside the fact the marriage will likely happen after this liberation war, or when the planet is fully united [there could be other tyrants still] and at peace. And that we are going to create new excavation sites on top of the other sisters, after clearing the negative Qi if we find any), one only needs to look on the outside of Kanzeon soul just to see that it reflects her appeareance and what she says and does. Add that even if you look from the other side of the galaxy, both Lieren armor and Guandao are clearly made out of love for him, while having a theme they both genuily enjoy (nature). In regard to the sisters, it depends how they are. But they are likely similar to Kanzeon to an extent, even if so far the sisters seem completely different.

>>5046509
Based Kanzeon estimator

>>5046846
Support
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>>5046966
>The only blessing we need is the one of Wenyan (which will likely only be given with the co-signed promise of making grandchildrens, in at least 5 years. Adoptions not included, he will not be fooled again).
>Jokes aside (beside the fact the marriage will likely happen after this liberation war, or when the planet is fully united [there could be other tyrants still] and at peace. And that we are going to create new excavation sites on top of the other sisters, after clearing the negative Qi if we find any), one only needs to look on the outside of Kanzeon soul just to see that it reflects her appeareance and what she says and does. Add that even if you look from the other side of the galaxy, both Lieren armor and Guandao are clearly made out of love for him, while having a theme they both genuily enjoy (nature). In regard to the sisters, it depends how they are. But they are likely similar to Kanzeon to an extent, even if so far the sisters seem completely different.

We need to go work on the shuni sister as fast as possible.
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Is it ever explained how Kharn survived 10 thousand years with the butcher nails stuck in his head when angron was going to die way before then?
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>>5046828
>"A humble farmer and hunter, whose interest you have caught. May I know your name, Architect?"
>"Lieren of Nothing, I believe myself to be your brother. I've been waiting for your to notice me"

>>5046938
It's definitely going to be a mixed bag, but there is room for optimism. Even if they believe his humility to be misguided, or otherwise not see eye to eye with Lieren, I think most Primarchs would at least respect his skill and conviction. Hell, our Legion already has a reputation as unflinching defenders of humanity, I could easily see Lieren getting a similar reputation. And Lieren's good manners, scholarly mind and hatred of tyrants would each gain him sympathy with the similarly minded among his brothers. Bottom line, the wider people of the imperium are going to Love the Shit out of us.

Also, I will admit I am not very familiar with Mortarion, but did he not also hate tyrants? Could be enough common ground for begrudging respect if nothing else.

If I had to say which Brother Lieren would share a bitter rivalry with, it would be Lorgar. On the surface, they are both skilled orators and philosophers, but their views would always clash for... obvious reasons. I would imagine their respective believes would drive the other up the fucking wall, leading to hours long philosophical debates. Kind like how Rogal and Pert hated each other despite being so similar on the surface. It would also continue the trend of Lieren being most similar to the emperor, with the religious Primarch being his rival.
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>>5046975
I assume chaos bullshit
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>>5046828
I can throw my support behind >>5046846
I think Pert will appreciate the honesty and companionship without strings attached.

>>5046975
Basically >>5047015

Lorgar was the one that helped set Angron's apotheosis in motion, because the Nails were killing him faster than he could heal and Lorgar was terrified of losing one of the few brothers he actually *liked*.

Kharn is the favored champion of Khorne, and therefore is protected from most of the Nails mutilation. I also recall that his personality didn't suffer nearly as much as others after the surgery, ie can still hold conversations and endure pace travel outside of a stasis pod.

Kharn's just a really swell guy in general.
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>>5046828
>A humble hunter and farmer
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>>5046814
It's a time honoured chinese tradition afterall.
>>5046828
>"A humble farmer and hunter, whose interest you have caught. May I know your name, Architect?"
>"A Curious scholar who was awed by the works of your subconscious mind. So I've come to meet you"
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>>5046828
>"Lieren of Nothing, I believe myself to be your brother. I've been waiting for your to notice me"
>"A Curious scholar who was awed by the works of your subconscious mind. So I've come to meet you"
I have been pondering, if we secure Shangrala fast enough and the Emperor is still in the middle of consolidating Terra, Lieren and the neo ladies of stone might want to zoom to Terra to save the Emperor some huge headaches and get some concessions from him if he is unreasonable towards them.
Right now the Emperor has to make faustian bargains with the mechanicus and navigator houses to even start the crusade, "safe" ai in the form of neo men of stone and huge daot databases would give him a huge amount of leeway and could radically alter how the imperium will form.
Given the choice between Kanzeon and her family who he would be wary of or the mechanicus and navigator houses who he would hate, I'm certain he would pick the former.
Still we should have some psychic long distance calls with Dad or Malcador beforehand to figure out where they are in the plan, what they want to do, why they want to do it, propose the pitch in a safe way, and make sure showing up out of the blue with a high daot flotilla won't throw everything into chaos.
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>>5047011
>Also, I will admit I am not very familiar with Mortarion, but did he not also hate tyrants?
Oh, with a passion. Or as close as he could get to such a thing. That's why he wasn't too fond of dad, because he thought he traded one tyrant for another.
>>5047097
kek
>>5047151
>Emperor is still in the middle of consolidating Terra
He shouldn't be for much longer. The fact that he's using Astartes now alone shows that we're in the closing days of the UW. And once he pacifies Luna and allies with Mars, his rate of conquest quickens all the more. We have a massive fuck-off war to fight, which'll probably take us years and then after that three more nations to spread prosperity to. If I had to bet on the order we're found in, I'd go with third, just like in canon.
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>>5047011
>On the surface, they are both skilled orators and philosophers, but their views would always clash for... obvious reasons. I would imagine their respective believes would drive the other up the fucking wall, leading to hours long philosophical debates.

Actually magnus and Lorgar liked and had respect for one another due to both being philosphiers and looking for why do they exist in this reaility

Lorgar sought the divine and magnus cold hard reality.
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>>5047151
>Given the choice between Kanzeon and her family who he would be wary of or the mechanicus and navigator houses who he would hate, I'm certain he would pick the former.
Even then he'll still need the Mechanium cause they have so many colonies out there and they're use for for operations and technology.
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>>5047199
I don't know if Magnus and Lieren are similar enough to draw conclusions just based on that...
But what I wrote was pure conjecture, Lieren and Lorgar could become great pals for all I know.

Though there will probably be some initial suspicion regardless, since Kor Phaeron (?) got a warning of "Beware golden eyes" a while back, and it is unlikely he will not share this with Lorgar.
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>>5046828
>"Lieren of Nothing, I believe myself to be your brother. I've been waiting for your to notice me"
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>>5047151
>>5047192
That might work. It's something to ask Dad about over the warp phone.

>>5047200
Mechanicus colonies? I thought Mar's was the only one with the Mechanicum religion, and then it slowly started to spread through the Imperium Via the Greate Crusade, and all other similar societies like Mars were assimilated to the Imperium of Man's / Cult Mechanicum's culture.

>>5047206
Lorgar is a bitch boy when it comes to his father, and he likes to kneel in the ashes of conquered worlds. He also has one of the slowest concurring rates during the Crusade as he has a propecenty to forcing everyone into worshipping the Emperor. Friends are a maybe.
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>>5047232
>Mechanicus colonies? I thought Mar's was the only one with the Mechanicum religion, and then it slowly started to spread through the Imperium Via the Greate Crusade, and all other similar societies like Mars were assimilated to the Imperium of Man's / Cult Mechanicum's culture.
No. They basically brute forced/sent out a fuck ton of colonization missing during the relatively calm periods during the age of strife. Colonies they're still in communication with due to their exclusive FTL communcation devices they have. It's why the emperor needed them on his side.

Not that they didn't assimulate other high tech civilizations into their empire when they got the chance.
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>>5047232
>He also has one of the slowest concurring rates during the Crusade as he has a propecenty to forcing everyone into worshipping the Emperor.
I don't think we're gonna be bringing worlds into compliance at a breakneck pace either, to be honest.
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>>5047264
eh, We're fully willing to over throw government and shit if it's needed. We'll probably focus on diploing planets for the most part and will probably have a fuck ton of alien protectorates to our name unlike our brothers.
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>>5047232
He was slow because he spent time after the conquest ofworlds building them up again.

The worlds he left behind were loyal and effective, because he took the time to make sure they were.
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>>5047283
Not even cause of that. He was slow as shit cause he did full on conversions. Dorn himself built back up the world's he brought into compliance and even he wasn't as slow as Lorgar was.
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>>5047264
>>5047281
We are definitely going to be on the slow side, as I can't imagine Lieren moving on from a planet before hanging every last tyrant and spreading some PROSPERITY.
Hell even now we had the Vishnu breathing down our necks and we still took the time to uplift and integrate the Shuni into Long-Jia.
Though if a world is already well off and the leaders are chill, it would probably go pretty quick.
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>>5047281
>eh, We're fully willing to over throw government and shit if it's needed
But it isn't our go-to like some of our brothers and we're fully willing to compromise. Drawing up and filing treaties is within the purview of the Administratum and the only thing the Administratum does quickly is delay doing their job.
>and will probably have a fuck ton of alien protectorates to our name unlike our brothers.
Lieren of Nothing, Patron Saint of Xenos, Abhumans, Witches, and Nulls.
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>>5047286
Guilliman also built up the worlds he conquered, and he was quite fast.
But it can just be GW wanking the Ultramarines so they can be prosperous, fast and strong without sacrificing anything for it.
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>>5046828
>"Lieren of Nothing, I believe myself to be your brother. I've been waiting for your to notice me"
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>>5047310
>But it can just be GW wanking the Ultramarines so they can be prosperous, fast and strong without sacrificing anything for it.
At the end of the day, the common practice of ignoring dumb shit like obvious faction wank or authors not understanding what or who they're writing about in favor of a more well-reasoned and plausible fan-explanation reigns supreme.
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>>5047377
I do hope some of the more subtle flaws in the Ultramarines' way of doing things are explored later on in the quest at least.
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>>5047462
The destruction of local cultural identity and bloated bureaucracy maybe? Ultramar is roman/greek, it would make sense they would have their version of hellenization/romanization, and all of the problems that came with it, not only the benefits.
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>>5047462
I hope so too. Hell, I hope our flaws and our legions flaws are explored too. I also hope that legion culture a bit more explored too. BL authors never make the IW greek enough or the LW/SoH roman barbarian or cyberpunk ganger enough. And some just never got a strong sense of influence either, like the DG or RG.
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>>5046828
>>5046846
This
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Due to the divine skype calls we magnus, dad and pert have every month or so, the great crusade shall begin not on holy terra but on each of the planets the primarchs were sent to.

The ship goddesses shall show the mechanicus the next level of human-machine communion. The end of flesh is not the end of the soul. They shall be pure machines that may face the warp with the light of their souls. Machine Spirit? Spirit of man!

The Navigators shall compete with Webway access. And they shall be hard pressed when they simply cannot match them on the bargaining table.

Lorgar shall instead be a faith seeker. Searching gods that are worth worship. A student of faith. An engineer of pantheons and god heads.

Mankind requires gods to save their souls from the hunger of the enemy. We simply require the enemy to be denied resources. He shall not fall this time. Instead Gods shall fall to him. He shall dissect them and each mote of their worth shall be scrutinized for the worth of mankind.
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Calling the vote now. Sorry for the late update.

"A humble farmer and hunter, whose interest you have caught. May I know your name, Architect?":5

Lieren of Nothing, I believe myself to be your brother. I've been waiting for your to notice me":9

"A brother of yours, one of many torn from our cradle of humanity, thrown far from our place of birth just as you have. Forgive me for my delay in etiquette, but I am called Lieren of Nothing, a hunter, farmer, and fellow artisan. As foolish as it is for me to ask, but may I help you with your work?":7

"A Curious scholar who was awed by the works of your subconscious mind. So I've come to meet you": 4

I am Lieren born from a dragons egg as you were, raised upon a far off world, one by one finding my brothers. I was meditating looking upon the cruel eye and felt another gazing upon it? Was it you brother of mine?: 1

Total votes:21

"Lieren of Nothing, I believe myself to be your brother. I've been waiting for your to notice me"-Wins

Writing now

>>5046829
It do be like that sometimes.
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Before you, revealed through as though painted upon the mists, sits a man equal and near to your stature with thick arms of densely corded muscles and broad, wall like shoulders like your own. His features are stern and grim, sharply carved as if he himself was a statue that had somehow become ambient and found a life of his own. His hair is black, and well maintained, painstakingly parted and combed back so as to provide no distraction, even his eyebrows have been cut precisely. His powerful, squared jaw that reminds you greatly of your fathers is framed by a thick beard, like those worn by the men of New Varro, but much better trimmed and more orderly sheared. Covering his sun kissed skin is a white tunic that brings to your mind a monk whose robes had been shrunk or the dress of Prospero. A sash runs from over his shoulder down to his leg on his other side, kept in place by an iron belt. His deeply set, wrought iron eyes narrow with suspicion.

It seems his face was intended to scowl from birth until death. A workshop, covered in schematics and diagrams, appears faintly behind him. He is cast in a orange hued light. He considers you, judging you up and down with what can best be described as disinterested curiosity, as if he was contemplating your sudden appearance more than your presence itself, pondering what exactly you were and the method of which you materialized before him like a phantom or fragment of the past.

He remains motionless, noticing you have been looking over and studying him as well, but makes no unnecessary movements or gestures. The odd chair he sits in creaks as he slightly moves his shoulders. He looks at you as if waiting for a reply to the question that allowed you to contact him so intently, or that he is expecting you to suddenly vanish or perhaps explode into a cloud of whimsy and song as he can imagine no logical reason for your presence and intrusion into his workshop. His eyes widen by a near microscopic amount as he understands you have guessed his thoughts from just observing him in his natural habitat, without using the true ability of your eyes. Which means he similarly read your expression and came to such a conclusion in a similar, though lesser manner.

Realizing instantly you'll be trapped in a stalemate of silent scrutiny if you do not speak, you cast away your quiet excitement and place a hand between your twin hearts and bow respectfully

"I am Lieren of Nothing, I believe myself to be your brother" You state excitedly "I've been waiting for you to notice me"

Not even a flutter of surprise in his eyes or mannerism. He moves his hands, placing them on the arms of his chair.

"How long have you been present?" He asks, as dull as a river washed stone "From your features, your claim of kinship is at least somewhat believable, ignoring the obvious discrepancy of the hue of your hair and eyes. Though that can be explained by recessive genes"

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>>5047894

"I was expecting a more dramatic reaction" You say with a smirk, which is not returned in kind "But to answer your question, I stumbled upon your presence by sheer happenstance and approached you merrily, I have not waited long, as you were able to perceive the wind of my approach..."

"How long" He asks again, narrowing his eyes further "I did not ask for excessive details"

"No longer than a minute, by my estimation" You say, feeling a little put out that her interrupted you

"Where upon Olympia is this "Nothing"?" He interrogates "To whom do you pledge your loyalty or service, or do you live as some wandering poet, wasting your potential. The name does not match the linguistics of any dialect, and I have studied them all. Neither does your accent match any population"

Ah, he's finding holes in your claim of being his brother and expecting you to answer in a suitable fashion to wash away his doubts like the rain cleanses smoke. A logical reaction towards a ghostly figure appearing and claiming kinship, you suppose.

"Nowhere, I'm from another world" You answer truthfully and to your surprise, see that that statement neither shocks, offends, or amuse your brother, all he does is raise two fingers to keep you from continuing, just as a beautifully poetic description of Shangrala approached your

"That would explain those particular discrepancies of your claim, I take it this is some form of technology you have used to contact me?" He continues on witch his questionings "And for what purpose? If it was of dire importance you would not have waited for me to chance upon noticing you, by way of the sensation of being watched"

He stands from his chair and approaches you, hands crossed over his strong chest.

"nor would the sensation be one of curious consideration rather than uncaring judgement, if you were seeking my assistance for a consequential matter, you would be measuring my abilities and physical or intellectual prowess, rather than looking upon my face and eyes" He continues on, making your eyes widen. You have to admit he is pretty adept at reading people as well, though you suppose in his case it is less watching for tells in mannerisms and facial cues and more process of elimination and logical deduction.

"Which, of course denotes an interest of a more personal, social sort" He says, picking at his nails, checking their length as he turns away from you "All of this of course could be deception, but if taken at face value it is evidence of your claim of being my off world brother, separated by an unknown intervention in our infantile years, who I must suppose is not in peril or otherwise requires my expertise which leaves one conclusion, if I believe your claim which judging from your stature, build and facial features is more probable to be truthful than it is to be a lie"
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>>5047895

You remain silent, listening to and slightly awed by his reasoning and careful consideration of what little evidence there was of the veracity and honesty of your outlandish claim

"That you have approached me seeking to reconnect, not out of a pragmatic need for my talents or any other sensible reason" He says, his lip twitching upwards, that you realize a second later is the nearest he's come to smiling since he's noticed you "But rather a more personal reason, in search of companionship and brotherly comradery of sorts. Am I correct, "Lieren?"

"I'll keep my reply curt, but in short, yes, you've read my intentions like a book" You say with a grin "Also, I have realized you have not given me your name yet, brother"

"That is curt?" He says dully, with a judging glance in your direction, a glimmer of amusement in his eyes "And I am called Perturabo. And may I ask, why now of all times have you sought out my friendship? Would it not have been more reasonable to contact me earlier?

There is a longing in his tone, and a quiet indignation. In a moment, his cordial mood may change.

What is your answer, Lieren?

>"Forgive me, Perturabo, but I was unaware you existed. Until today I thought I had one brother, until by happenstance I found you. If I had known of you, I swear I would have approached you sooner as both brother and friend"

>"My world, Shangrala, was one poorly ruled and haunted by tyranny. I've spent most of my life bringing prosperity and leaving the old lords to sway in the winds"

>"A naturally analytic mind! A rare gift! But to answer your question I have only become aware of you today. However you are also incorrect, for this meeting was not made possible by technology, but rather Psykerism!"

>"Our father never mentioned a third brother! Perhaps he believed you to be lost forevermore? I cannot be certain. But I am certain you are my brother, for there exists no existence in heaven nor earth that can mimic the presence of a primarch"

>write in
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>>5047896
"I have only in recent years been able to commune in this manner, before you I found another of our Brothers whom himself had made contact with our Father... It seems we are a family scattered among the stars by some design attempting to separate us but slowly we are finding one another once again... I'm so glad to know I have another brother and my heart swells to know you are glad to see me to. It seems each of us bare a gift of sorts"
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>>5047896
>"A naturally analytic mind! A rare gift! But to answer your question I have only become aware of you today. However you are also incorrect, for this meeting was not made possible by technology, but rather Psykerism!"
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>>5047896
>"Forgive me, Perturabo, but I was unaware you existed. Until today I thought I had one brother, until by happenstance I found you. If I had known of you, I swear I would have approached you sooner as both brother and friend"
>"A naturally analytic mind! A rare gift! But to answer your question I have only become aware of you today. However you are also incorrect, for this meeting was not made possible by technology, but rather Psykerism!"
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>>5047896
>"Forgive me, Perturabo, but I was unaware you existed. Until today I thought I had one brother, until by happenstance I found you. If I had known of you, I swear I would have approached you sooner as both brother and friend"
>"A naturally analytic mind! A rare gift! But to answer your question I have only become aware of you today. However you are also incorrect, for this meeting was not made possible by technology, but rather Psykerism!"
Mentioning we have another brother is for the best, since Magnus could contact him as well once we tip him off. Also we should probably explain the whole Psycker business sooner rather then later.

>"That is curt?"
We are going to get that a lot, huh.
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>>5047899
I'll support.

C'mon pert. We only just learned about you, and approached as swiftly as we could. Cut us some slack.
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>>5047896
>"Forgive me, Perturabo, but I was unaware you existed. Until today I thought I had one brother, until by happenstance I found you. If I had known of you, I swear I would have approached you sooner as both brother and friend"
>"A naturally analytic mind! A rare gift! But to answer your question I have only become aware of you today. However you are also incorrect, for this meeting was not made possible by technology, but rather Psykerism!"
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>>5047896
>"Forgive me, Perturabo, but I was unaware you existed. Until today I thought I had one brother, until by happenstance I found you. If I had known of you, I swear I would have approached you sooner as both brother and friend"
>"A naturally analytic mind! A rare gift! But to answer your question I have only become aware of you today. However you are also incorrect, for this meeting was not made possible by technology, but rather Psykerism!"

that there exists a world of M A G I C is gonna blow his mind when we can explain the wound in the sky.

>"Brother, do you like poetry? It is the way of my people and a simple form of art and education in itself."
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>>5047896
>"Forgive me, Perturabo, but I was unaware you existed. Until today I thought I had one brother, until by happenstance I found you. If I had known of you, I swear I would have approached you sooner as both brother and friend"
>"A naturally analytic mind! A rare gift! But to answer your question I have only become aware of you today. However you are also incorrect, for this meeting was not made possible by technology, but rather Psykerism!"

"I apologise if my speech appears flowerly but this is the style upon my world, nobles and tyrants are more easily swayed if you hide poison behind poetry"
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>>5047896
>>"Forgive me, Perturabo, but I was unaware you existed. Until today I thought I had one brother, until by happenstance I found you. If I had known of you, I swear I would have approached you sooner as both brother and friend"
>>"A naturally analytic mind! A rare gift! But to answer your question I have only become aware of you today. However you are also incorrect, for this meeting was not made possible by technology, but rather Psykerism!"
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>>5047896
>>"Forgive me, Perturabo, but I was unaware you existed. Until today I thought I had one brother, until by happenstance I found you. If I had known of you, I swear I would have approached you sooner as both brother and friend"
>>"My world, Shangrala, was one poorly ruled and haunted by tyranny. I've spent most of my life bringing prosperity and leaving the old lords to sway in the winds"
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>>5047896
>"Forgive me, Perturabo, but I was unaware you existed. Until today I thought I had one brother, until by happenstance I found you. If I had known of you, I swear I would have approached you sooner as both brother and friend"
>"My world, Shangrala, was one poorly ruled and haunted by tyranny. I've spent most of my life bringing prosperity and leaving the old lords to sway in the winds"
Write-in
>"You would not even believe how bad things have been. The first ruler was an incompetent that starved his own livelihood and funnily enough handed me the very resources I'd need to overthrow him and build my own army to overthrow the next one which was spiteful hedonist that was a pawn even in his own game. The third was a horrible mutant that stole his powers from others and was so certain in his fate of victory that he doomed himself defeat. The fourth was overthrown in a civil war caused by one of my followers preaching my words and beliefs and still have yet to set foot in that nation. The last one at least until another crawls out from under some rock is a man intent on causing as much violence and destruction as possible using the ancient technology he found who I still have to deal with. Hopefully you haven't had to suffer such awfulness."
Let's try to find some common ground with Perty first.
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>>5047896
I can get behind >>5047921
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>>5047896
>>"A naturally analytic mind! A rare gift! But to answer your question I have only become aware of you today. However you are also incorrect, for this meeting was not made possible by technology, but rather Psykerism!"
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>>5047896
>>5047904

Supporting this
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>>5047896
>>"Forgive me, Perturabo, but I was unaware you existed. Until today I thought I had one brother, until by happenstance I found you. If I had known of you, I swear I would have approached you sooner as both brother and friend"
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>>5047896
>"A naturally analytic mind! A rare gift! But to answer your question I have only become aware of you today. However you are also incorrect, for this meeting was not made possible by technology, but rather Psykerism!"
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>>5047912
Support
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>>5047921
I feel we have to be direct as possible with pert.
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>>5047912
Support explaining why we are so poetic.
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>>5047921
support need to show pert that we too "hate" incompetence
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>>5047902
I will change my vote from here to support here >>5047921
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>>5047896
>>5047921

Puting my support in telling him why.
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side note, be ready lads we may accidentally inspire pert to kill his foster dad. Not that there's anything wrong with that
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>>5047933
Changing from this to
>>5047921
this

Wish it explained to pert how we're contacting him however.
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>>5048000
It would put a even bigger strain between him and his adopted family, Calliphone was competent and would make great ruler and was a friend to Pertubaro, Andos would make a great journeyman, but Herakon and Dammekos should be hanged anyway.
Lieren is probably going to have an aneurism when Pert tells him that every ruler in Olympia proudly calls themselves tyrants.
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>>5048003
>Wish it explained to pert how we're contacting him however.
Yeah I'm a little weary of not mentioning that.
With Pert's autism, he might interpret it as us intentionally withholding that information, since he said he believes it to be technology and we did not correct him.
Could bite us in the ass
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>>I had invasions to thwart, people to liberate, , infrastructure to build up, technology to spread, and I got married. What's your excuse.?


He sounds busy. Arrogant. And he was competitive as fuck vs rogal.
We should leverage those personality traits.
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>>5048003
Fuck it Adding

>"A naturally analytic mind! A rare gift! But to answer your question I have only become aware of you today. However you are also incorrect, for this meeting was not made possible by technology, but rather Psykerism!"

to that too. I don't want to trigger Pert's issues by not correcting him. He would take it wrong.
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>>5048014
It's not Lierens nature to tell him that "we were busy, that's why we didn't turn up".
Elaborating that we learned about his existence 6 minutes ago and turned up there.
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>>5047896
>"Forgive me, Perturabo, but I was unaware you existed. Until today I thought I had one brother, until by happenstance I found you. If I had known of you, I swear I would have approached you sooner as both brother and friend"
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>>5047921
I saw this and had to get on phone to back this because tonight I am gaming.
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>>5047921
>Support
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>>5047896
>>"A naturally analytic mind! A rare gift! But to answer your question I have only become aware of you today. However you are also incorrect, for this meeting was not made possible by technology, but rather Psykerism!"
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>>5047896
backing this >>5047921
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>>5047896
>"A naturally analytic mind! A rare gift! But to answer your question I have only become aware of you today. However you are also incorrect, for this meeting was not made possible by technology, but rather Psykerism!"
>"Forgive me, Perturabo, but I was unaware you existed. Until today I thought I had one brother, until by happenstance I found you. If I had known of you, I swear I would have approached you sooner as both brother and friend"
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So we know lierens role was to be the engineer of the primarchs, and I think we can say that we are fitting that role fairly well, but which piece of the emperors soul do you anons think were we forged with?
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>>5048328
Tempted to say the autism, being controlled by 4channers and all, but that's clearly Pert's deal.
So I'm going to be on either compassion, understanding, curiosity or rationality.
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>>5047912
+1 for explaining
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We aren't in his office. We're in his mind. Perhaps he's overlooked that.

Tis a wide galaxy. And we're on different planets. We just got lucky tonight. Just like with Magnus and dad. That we met at all is literally astronomically unlikely.
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>>5048534
>That we met at all is literally astronomically unlikely.
Not really.
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>> I apologize for my lateness then brother. The galaxy is vast and my adopted planet is not settled Annihilation stalks us with the weapons mankind wielded at it's apex.

>>Still it is good to meet another one of us. Father had thought us lost. Yet one by one we find each other it seems not all hope is lost.


Less flowery. Still humble. Still thankful. Will this work with peturabo?
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>>5048585
It'll never get in if that's what you are asking.
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>>5048604
It clearly isn't.
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>>5048585
I will support.
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>>5047896
>>"Forgive me, Perturabo, but I was unaware you existed. Until today I thought I had one brother, until by happenstance I found you. If I had known of you, I swear I would have approached you sooner as both brother and friend"
> >"A naturally analytic mind! A rare gift! But to answer your question I have only become aware of you today. However you are also incorrect, for this meeting was not made possible by technology, but rather Psykerism!"
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As an aside, should we prepare a tech and culture package for Perturbo? The ideas behind Wuxing, our recovered knowledge from Shangrala's past colonists (maybe not the water stones at first, but other more day-to-day applicable things), the Null Denouncement charms, and maybe our reverse-engineered Aeldari research.

Also, it would be really cute if he has a chance to meet the Tiger children. Uncle Grumpy-Pants trying not to scowl as two hundred little rascals use him as a jungle gym and bombard him with a thousand and one inane questions (and maybe a few he can't answer because the poor bastard doesn't know himself).
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>>5049056
I think Perty would be more liable to killing one of them, or the kids might be scared of his dour disposition.
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>>5049068
he might be stern and cold but he doesn't come across as the kind of person how would kill a child because they annoy them
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>>5049068
>"Uncle Pert..."
>"Speak up youngling."
>"I was just w-wondering...why don't you look like Lieren?"
>"Do you mean to imply my kin is not as he claims?"
>"NO! I just don't get how you look more like those people from New Varro while Lieren looks like a Giant Long Jia."
>"I...hmmmmmm..."
Some say Pert sat and contemplated the question for the better part of a standard Terran week before publishing an award winning document on environmental genetics.
>>5049114
Indeed. He's not Curze.
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>>5049068
Pert loves his little adopted sister UNTIL she leads that rebellion against him.
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>>5049124
>Indeed. He's not Curze.
Curze wouldn't do it for no reason either. They'd have to break the law and steal a piece of candy or something first.
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>>5049139
I hope we get paired up with Curze so we can try and lead him on the right path
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>>5049181
The more time passes the harder that becomes. That's why I voted for us to talk to him instead of Pert, who is much less time sensitive.
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>>5049207
They both need help for different reasons, and I understand your concern (I was that early vote for Grumpy Autist *and* BATMAN), but despairing about it solves nothing. Instead, we should plan for how we can help the prophetic Primarch turn Nostramo into a place of compassion and prosperity. Maybe transforming the surface to be amicable to human life (millions of people trapped together in tight confines is always a recipe for disaster) as a start?

Besides that, it's now been shown that Lieren's actions have had a powerful impact on events; whose to say that the return of Hope isn't exactly the kind of guiding light needed to lead Curze away from the Night Haunter?

> tldr; Malal isn't a dick that's gonna punish us for choosing one brother's introduction over another
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>>5049236
>transforming the surface to be amicable to human life
Environmental reforms will help with the massive clouds of pollution that block out some of the light, but not the perpetual solar eclipse that blocks out the majority. Social reforms are going to be more effective. If we had met Curze, I would've voted to advise him to actually write legal reforms and establish law enforcement groups, instead of just making the punishment for every crime death and doing it himself.
>whose to say that the return of Hope isn't exactly the kind of guiding light needed to lead Curze away from the Night Haunter?
The quest. We got a little interlude where he saw the fate of the boy he was chasing change as a result of our actions and decided to torture him to death, instead of just snapping his neck.
> tldr; Malal isn't a dick that's gonna punish us for choosing one brother's introduction over another
Malal not including trap options doesn't mean that our decisions aren't going to have negative impacts or that we can focus on one thing and time will just freeze elsewhere and wait for us to finish. We've seen this happen in the quest before.
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>>5049243
>not including trap options
It's not quite trap options but unforseen consquences we must worry about. Remember we could have missed our chance to learn about the Yan Emperor planning to blow up the capital because we choose the wrong question.
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>>5049279
Yeah, that's a good example. And the Treachery of the Turtles did save lives, but brought them (and us to a lesser degree) a good deal of dishonor and distrust. That sort of thing.
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Speaking of the turtles. We should give them some attention. perhaps let them lead our defenses?

They lost honor and need something to fix it so it doesn't become a problem down the road.
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>>5049313
No.

Yan Zhilo is a better tactician, as is Yin lei and we can't afford the friction such unpopular generals will cause.
That being said, if we wish to help them with honour, we should focus on cultivating honour for his children, since Patriarch Dai Nue will always be stained. His kids will be a clean slate when he passes on the command of the family.
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>>5049313
Preferential treatment based on lineage isn't the way to go. We've already named our tanks after them though, so they have that.
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They still seem like a potential weak point. We also kind of owe it to them for shitting on them when they gave us their loyalty.

No one else had to deal with that.
Also unintended consequences are going to pop up if we leave this to fester. Probably.
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>>5049437
Only the old man got the dishonour, and only the Kang would keep a grudge against the entire line, hopefully the kang heir will mellow out and forgive them.
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Calling the vote now

"I have only in recent years been able to commune in this manner...":1

"A naturally analytic mind! A rare gift!...:"14

"Forgive me, Perturabo, but I was unaware you existed..."21

"Brother, do you like poetry? ...":1

"I apologize if my speech appears flowerly but this is the style upon my world...":4

"My world, Shangrala, was one poorly ruled and haunted by tyranny..."10

"You would not even believe how bad things have been...":9

"I had invasions to thwart, people to liberate..":1

I apologize for my lateness then brother...:2

Still it is good to meet another one of us...:2

Total votes: 32

So Lieren will answer "Forgive me, Perturabo, but I was unaware you existed. Until today I thought I had one brother, until by happenstance I found you. If I had known of you, I swear I would have approached you sooner as both brother and friend"

Writing now
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"Forgive me, Perturabo, but I was unaware you existed" You admit humbly, bowing your head to show your shame of not being able to find your second brother in the vast astral seas of the empyrean or its winding, ever changing planes of emotion "Until today I thought I had one brother, until by happenstance I found you"

His expression remains unchanging on the surface, but beneath it you can see him consider your answer as if picking through poppy seeds, weighing each word individually to judge the whole of the answer as carefully as he is able to. Confusion joins indigitation, as a disappointed and almost sorrowful look flickers past his solemn eyes. But, the emotion lingers only as long as the rumble of thunder before lightning strikes. He believes he was abandoned, or ignored by your family when he had been lost. You cannot allow such a misunderstanding to persist and grow into a raging beast of resentment.

Placing a hand between your twin hearts, you raise your head

"If I had known of you, I swear I would have approached you sooner as both brother and friend" You state with a certainty that could make the heavens themselves quake and fall. Perturabo quells the storm of confused emotions in his heart and calms his mind, cold rational overcoming the sudden swing of his emotions.

"That brings to mind another question, how were you able to, as you have put it "Stumble" upon my existence?" He question, a certain subtle geniality resonating in his words "Was it through tracking our shared genetic markers, out of curiosity, or have you a method to detect the emissions of the psyche, through a technology that records mental energy across vast distances through a method that would seem as magic to the uneducated and superstitious?"

He brings his hand to his chin, but instead of pressing his knuckles to it begins to stroke his beard in thought.

"Though I suppose it is more likely you simply listened into conversations of the populace of my world and grew intrigued of mentions of a Genius youth of unordinary proportions who works tirelessly and oftentimes thanklessly" He muses, pulling his fingers through his beard "Though, that brings to mind the question that first arose in my thoughts because of your answer, Brother. That you were lead to believe you only had one brother. May I know why is that, or has that knowledge been kept from you"

His eyes become as daggers, aimed not at you but an unknown father or mother.

"For, I find myself unable to disbelieve the otherwise ludicrous claim you approached me with, as comparing out statures and certain other features proves we are brothers" He states calmly, a façade to hide his growing anger at the idea that he was left to the wilds and abandoned by his "true" family "That you were able to find me at all, provides further evidence in the way of our shared intellect. However, that you did not know of me can only mean I was either forgotten or purposely lost"

Cont
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>>5049700

"And, as you consider another world your own, and must thus have some access to space travel " He continues, coldly explaining his reasoning as he stares ahead past the misty figure he sees of you "If I was "stumbled" upon, that means I was separated from the rest of the our kinsmen, purposefully or through negligence, and my very existence was swept under the rug"

This is disastrous! You part your lips to speak, but Perturabo keeps talking, verbally constructing his belief through the evidence before him, no matter how trivial or circumstantial it may be. Like an architect building a wall across a river.

"But, perhaps it was not a parent abandoning their child, or a cousin losing their charge but rather the actions of a rival seeking to weaken our family, for it would be incredibly shortsighted to abandoned an infant whom I must assume had been imparted with the innate knowledge I've been blessed with" He muses, before glowering "But, men are illogical creatures, so it is a sliver of a chance. Unless there was a purpose for leaving me here, a test of some sort. But what could it be? Why would I be tested? Or forsaken?"

You need to interrupt him before he teaches himself to hate and scorn a father he has never met or commit himself to an effort without cause. He's clearly a genius, blessed by a sharp wit. But his emotions are tumultuous, and he believes himself to be victimized for reasons you cannot grasp from looking into his heart , that the true scope of his talents and intellect are overlooked by those who would see to exploit and abuse them.

What do you say to try to avert this rising disaster, Lieren?

>Perturabo, our father works tirelessly to reunite with his sons. We were scattered by...malevolent forces from our cribs. I have never met him, only spoken with him. However, if he did not care for us as you fear, I would be dead. I know that for certain.

>Brother. We were engineered with intent, designed for a purpose. But we are not tools. I have only met our father because, like our brother Magnus, I am a psyker. That is how I am able converse with you now.

>Beings that would name themselves gods sought to make us their pawns, our father swore me to an oath of silence, but though I have spoken as many lies as truths in my life, I will not keep the truth hidden from you. We were cast through the stars by their hands.

>It was not through malicious intent we did not share an upbringing nor the glories and tragedies of youth, Perturabo. You and I, and our brother were lost to our father through nothing more than sheer misfortune. A rift in the Emperyan swallowed us not long after our birth, and we were thrown through the stars until we fell as comets to the worlds we now call our homes.

>write in

Sorry for the short and late update, machine spirits were being testy all night.
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>>5049701
>>Perturabo, our father works tirelessly to reunite with his sons. We were scattered by...malevolent forces from our cribs. I have never met him, only spoken with him. However, if he did not care for us as you fear, I would be dead. I know that for certain.
>>Write-in
"And as to how we were able to converse as we are now, that is due to a born mental skill known as Psykerism."
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>>5049701
>Perturabo, our father works tirelessly to reunite with his sons. We were scattered by...malevolent forces from our cribs. I have never met him, only spoken with him. However, if he did not care for us as you fear, I would be dead. I know that for certain.
>Brother. We were engineered with intent, designed for a purpose. But we are not tools. I have only met our father because, like our brother Magnus, I am a psyker. That is how I am able converse with you now.
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He thinks we're actually here. We need to inform him of his psychic powers.

Ugh. Are we going to accidentally open up his mind to chaos corruption?
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>>5049701
>Perturabo, our father works tirelessly to reunite with his sons. We were scattered by...malevolent forces from our cribs. I have never met him, only spoken with him. However, if he did not care for us as you fear, I would be dead. I know that for certain.
>Brother. We were engineered with intent, designed for a purpose. But we are not tools. I have only met our father because, like our brother Magnus, I am a psyker. That is how I am able converse with you now.

"Our brother magnus appears capable of immense psychic prowess which dwarfs my own, while we appear to have a similar ability of being able to see the truth or deduce the truth. At first I would suspect we were designed the same but with meeting a third it is clear we seem to specialise."

"Mayhap I can try call our brother Magnus to the meeting?"
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>>5049701
>>Perturabo, our father works tirelessly to reunite with his sons. We were scattered by...malevolent forces from our cribs. I have never met him, only spoken with him. However, if he did not care for us as you fear, I would be dead. I know that for certain.
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>>5049701
>>Perturabo, our father works tirelessly to reunite with his sons. We were scattered by...malevolent forces from our cribs. I have never met him, only spoken with him. However, if he did not care for us as you fear, I would be dead. I know that for certain.

>>Brother. We were engineered with intent, designed for a purpose. But we are not tools. I have only met our father because, like our brother Magnus, I am a psyker. That is how I am able converse with you now.

Write In
>Brother do you perhaps still have the pod you arrived on your world in, it contains a treasure trove of information that only you can access. Once you see both the craftsmanship and the protections built into our crib you will easily be able to discern the care our father has for us.
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>>5049701
I need to know if we have knowledge of all the warfare on Terra, as this will inform whether we can use this response:
"Our father is waylaid on his home planet, fighting a war that ravages his homeland. I have been able to ascertain that I and the other brother in my correspondence have been spirited away to farflung reaches of foreign solar systems. Father will find us, but it will take time."

Basically option one and two.
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>>5049728
we know that our sons have been in combat of some sort, and I think we know in broad stroke what a space marine is.
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>>5049701
>Perturabo, our father works tirelessly to reunite with his sons. We were scattered by...malevolent forces from our cribs. I have never met him, only spoken with him. However, if he did not care for us as you fear, I would be dead. I know that for certain.
>Brother. We were engineered with intent, designed for a purpose. But we are not tools. I have only met our father because, like our brother Magnus, I am a psyker. That is how I am able converse with you now.
>It was not through malicious intent we did not share an upbringing nor the glories and tragedies of youth, Perturabo. You and I, and our brother were lost to our father through nothing more than sheer misfortune. A rift in the Emperyan swallowed us not long after our birth, and we were thrown through the stars until we fell as comets to the worlds we now call our homes.
Id rather not spill the Chaos Beans, so I kinda have to include the last option.
Otherwise "We were scattered by...malevolent forces from our cribs" is just BEGGING for a follow up.

>>5049722
Supporting the write in
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>>5049701
>Perturabo, our father works tirelessly to reunite with his sons. We were scattered by...malevolent forces from our cribs. I have never met him, only spoken with him. However, if he did not care for us as you fear, I would be dead. I know that for certain.
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>>5049722
Supporting the write-in.
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>>5049722
0Yeah the write in is good.
+1
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>>5049734
Support.

My my pert, your victim complex is marvelling. Ask myself before you go off on a tangent.
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>>5049734
+support
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>>5049722
support
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>>5049722
support
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>>5049701
>>It was not through malicious intent we did not share an upbringing nor the glories and tragedies of youth, Perturabo. You and I, and our brother were lost to our father through nothing more than sheer misfortune. A rift in the Emperyan swallowed us not long after our birth, and we were thrown through the stars until we fell as comets to the worlds we now call our homes.
>>Perturabo, our father works tirelessly to reunite with his sons. We were scattered by...malevolent forces from our cribs. I have never met him, only spoken with him. However, if he did not care for us as you fear, I would be dead. I know that for certain.
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>>5049722
Supporting
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>>5049852
Removing
>>>Perturabo, our father works tirelessly to reunite with his sons. We were scattered by...malevolent forces from our cribs. I have never met him, only spoken with him. However, if he did not care for us as you fear, I would be dead. I know that for certain.
from my vote. It occurs to me that dad said not to tell any other of our brothers about Chaos.
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>>5049881
That's what the pause and lieren saying malevolent forcea mean.
He is trying to not straight up say it's chaos, the reveal chaos is the third one.
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>>5049893
Also, is everyone sure you want to lie about it being an accident? One of the biggest reasons he hates his adopted parent other than being treated just as some sort of disposable mercenary is that they refused to tell him about the eye of chaos, something that he could always see staring at him.
All that a chaos cultist would need to do is to show him that we didn't trust him to tell why. Atleast with a half truth we could explain that the more you know of the enemies, the stronger they become.
Maybe I'm reading too much into this.
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>>5049722
>+1
This is good, hopefully we can do all three at once.
Also when we inform Dad/Malcador/Magnus of Pert and help them get in contact, we totally have to go over this whole meeting with them in detail so none of them cause Pert to trigger and explode.
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>>5049902
No, I'm also worried about it.
But the emperor did get us to swear not to spread this knowledge.
I'm hoping that we could ask emps to get everyone in the loop when we meet him face to face or, push comes to shove, tell Pert that we swore an oath we could not break. It's not like we WANTED to lie to him.
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>>5049959
If we end up telling him we took an oath of silence and that once given we don't break our word, but if we wants to learn more he can ask father when he meets him.
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>>5049959
We could ask to set up a council where we talk between Primarchs and emperor for a few days. A few days of talking, giving knowledge, learning and planning.
Perhaps the emperor could even take one of the communication units of the Mechanicus, that use the Noosphere and grant it to all of them. So the council can be made even on long distances (like starwars holograms where the jedi council reunites for talking) and more than once. It would honestly not impact that much the speed of the crusade, and it would actually create more unity and cohesion.
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>>5049982
That could work too.
Tell him that we know who scattered us, but swore to father not to tell anyone, because the info itself is dangerous.
But that father might be willing to tell him directly, if he asks.
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>>5049722
+1
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>>5049902
>Also, is everyone sure you want to lie about it being an accident?
It isn't really a lie. The Warp rift was a misfortune. All a misfortune is is an event that causes a distressing result. It's more a lie by omission, but if he asks we can tell him our father swore us to not speak of it.
>One of the biggest reasons he hates his adopted parent other than being treated just as some sort of disposable mercenary is that they refused to tell him about the eye of chaos, something that he could always see staring at him.
The Olympians didn't know jack about the Eye, they were a bronze-age world before Pert showed up. His hatred of Dammekos and the rest of his family (minus Calliphone) stemmed from their initial treatment of him as a tool or prize. Even when Dammekos realized he cared for Pert and tried to show him affection, make him part of the family, or otherwise try to be a father to him, he refused because he was unable to get over the way he treated him early in his life.
>Maybe I'm reading too much into this.
It's easy to do with Pert. Everything can be an insult if you look at it a certain way, and God only knows how Pert'll interpret any given thing.
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>>5050049
I swear I had read somewhere that he went to the rooftop of the palace right after being adopted, looked at the sky, saw the eye and one of the guards told him to stop because he wasn't allowed.
But I can't find anything on any of the wikis, so I'm probably misremembering things.
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>>5050110
Waiy, I found it. It wasn't because he wasn't allowed, but becasue he was the only one that could see it.
Anyway, it is a lie, because it was caused by malicious intent. The lie by omssion is the malevolent forces, not the misfortune vote.
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We could simply tell him to ask dad about it when they meet. Whether in person or via psychic powers. We/Magnus can play personal Skype call.
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>>5050116
It isn't. Calling the rift a misfortune doesn't preclude it from being caused by anything, it only states that it happened, not why or how. There isn't anything omitted in the malevolent forces vote. That's just the truth. Malevolent forces scattered us across the galaxy. It invites more questions for clarification, but it isn't misleading or incomplete.
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We could call the rift what it is. The eldar fucking things up.

Or "Eldar's folly"
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>>5050186
The first part of that vote says It was not through malicious intent.
I agree that calling it a misfortune doesn't necessarily mean it was an accident, but mixing it together by saying it wasn't malicious actions does.
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>>5049722
>Support
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>>5049701
>>5049722
support.
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See this is why you keep Erda in the quest so you can throw her dumb ass under the bus

>> Our Father Works Tirelessly

This works. It isn't a lie of omission, if you say Malevolent forces he may be able to get it.

The last thing we need him to think is that he is not cared for.
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>>5050327
Also this, Support this with the father works tirelessly.
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>>5049722
supporting
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>>5049701
>>5049722
support
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Calling the vote now

Perturabo, our father works tirelessly to reunite with his sons...:20

And as to how we were able to converse as we are now, that is due to a born mental skill known as Psykerism...:1

Brother. We were engineered with intent, designed for a purpose....: 17
-Call up Big M: 1

Brother do you perhaps still have the pod you arrived on your world in, it contains a treasure trove of information that only you can access...:14

Our father is waylaid on his home planet, fighting a war that ravages his homeland...:1

It was not through malicious intent we did not share an upbringing nor the glories and tragedies of youth...:4

Total votes:23

So The "Father works tirelessly" "Were engineered with intent" and Pod write in win.

Writing now

>>5050198
"Why my wife hates the knife ears, a visual representation cast betwixt the stars"
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>>5050644
kek
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Before your brother can concoct a tragedy of betrayal and abandonment from the information he has gathered from your brief conversation, you raise a single finger to politely ask him to pause his ramblings before pressing your hands together as if in prayer.

"Perturabo" You say earnestly, wearing a gentle and well mannered smile upon your lips "Our father works tirelessly to reunite with his sons"

Your stern faced brother raises an eyebrow, his attention once more fully yours as he listens closely to your words, judging them as he judged all others, picking through them for new evidence to prove his theory or lead him to cast it aside. Looking for hidden insults and guised praises.

"We were scattered by" You pause, biting your tongue softly as you remember the promise you made with your father, the oath sworn upon the awakening of long sleeping Chun Qiang. Perturabo notices your pause, realizing your considering your words carefully "malevolent forces from our cribs. I have never met him, only spoken with him. However, if he did not care for us as you fear, I would be dead. Of that I am certain"

"Then why has he not contacted me? Spoke with me?" Perturabo replies, coldly, crossing his arms as he bowed his head "Does he believe isolation to be an effective form of parenting and only intervenes when his children are truly threatened, or is that he only concerns himself with relatives that have proven their usefulness"

"Brother' You say, using all your willpower not to sigh and risk offending your currently ill tempered brother "We were engineered with intent"

"Engineered?" He questions, honest curiosity replacing the resentment that had built up inside of him, suddenly he is proud again, almost jovial that he was created with purpose rather than being a happenstance of birth or anomaly of natural conception an...odd reaction to say the least

"But we are not tools" You proclaim confidently, resisting the habitual urge to lash out your arm, lest the gesture prove offensive to Perturabo's adoptive culture "As I said before, I have never directly met with our father, only spoken to him. However, even then such a meeting was only made possible because, like our brother Magnus, I am psyker"

"The difference in the linguistics of his name and yours does prove that you could not have been raised by the same people" Perturabo muses, finding in that detail evidence against his belief of being abandoned and scorned "and psyker, I have not heard the term, but the root of it must be psyche. I infer that means you and our brother possess some form of ability or attribute based upon mental energy or thought? That I do not have or have not yet awakened?"

"Correct, that is how I am able to converse with you now" You say with a nod of your head and shake of your pressed hands soon afterwards "And, only Magnus was born with the gift of psykerism, I awoke it through meditation, I am certain our father possesses it as well"
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>>5050670

"Interesting" Pertuabo mutters, once more picking and combing his beard with his fingers "I am certain the savages here would call you all witches or some other derogatory term. It must be a wonderful to be born amidst a more enlightened and tolerant society"

If only he could have seen what Shangrala once was! Or witnessed the terrors the People of Prospero endured until Magnus emerged to guide and protect them as a benevolent, scholar king. But, you do not wish to bore your brother with tales of the past.

"Birth...that brings to mind another topic I meant to speak with you of. We were engineered, woven, shaped through advance sciences and arcane methods, individual works of art" You say pressing your knuckles to your chin "Brother, do you perhaps still have the pod you arrived on your world in?"

His eyes become alight with intrigue and recognition.

"I know its location, within my "father's" dominion" He answers suddenly "what importance does it hold, for you to speak of it so gravely?"

"It contains a treasure trove of information that only you can access" You state with a warm smile "Once you see both the craftsmanship and the protections built into our crib you will easily be able to discern the care our father has for us. That is, if you still doubt the veracity of his parental love"

"So the cribs were tossed to the wilds alongside us three brothers then?" Perturabo laughs, seemingly at last comfortable with your company, but you do not know what if anything you said made for such a change. Perhaps the tone you used? Your gestures? Your smile? He is a very hard man to read, even with your stolen gift "If they are the treasures you describe them as, then we must've been taken by witless barbarians!"

Your smile widens, you can almost hear the lords of chaos shrieking in a fit of pique, nursing their injured egos to hear such an accurate description spoken of them by one entirely ignorant of their existence

Then perturabo's expression becomes grim once more.

"You say our father saved your life. What were the circumstance of this? and how was he able to if you have not met him beyond mental communications?" He asks sternly before his tone and expression softens "So long as to ask would not offend you or your poet's pride? I imagine a verbose and elegant speaker like yourself endeavors to put such a story to print"

Him describing your manner of speech, makes you draw parrelels between Long-Jianese, Prosperan and the tongue of Olympia. Perturabo himself speaks curtly, and often sharply, only saying what needs to be said. Like a worker or career artisan. His native language however is...dull. It's less flowery and more literal, spoken for meaning without art, well structured and without accents of idioms, sayings, phrasing or even the odd koan. His culture must be industrious, or at least laboriously minded.
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>>5050673

How do you reply to perturabo's request, Lieren?

>Give an altered account of your battle with Be'lakor to avoid breaking your oath

>Answer that your father has sworn you to secrecy of the matters, but admit it would make a good play like many of your other adventures had

>Refuse, saying you still bear the scars of the incident freshly

>Reply with a request for a story of perturabo's own life, so you may get to know each other as brothers. it worked with you and Magnus after all

>Write in

Sorry that the last few updates were on the shorter side. But hey, you're talking with Perturabo.
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>>5050674
>Answer that your father has sworn you to secrecy of the matters, but admit it would make a good play like many of your other adventures had
>It was an enemy that grows stronger the more they are know about, so I urge you to keep the protection that ignorance brings. Perhaps one day, when we are all reunited we can better prepare to bring the fight to them.
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>>5050677
Forgot this
>Reply with a request for a story of perturabo's own life, so you may get to know each other as brothers. it worked with you and Magnus after all
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>>5050674
>Answer that your father has sworn you to secrecy of the matters, but admit it would make a good play like many of your other adventures had
>"Once our father has found a way to combat their schemes brother, then I can tell you the whole story"
>Reply with a request for a story of perturabo's own life, so you may get to know each other as brothers. it worked with you and Magnus after all
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>>5050674
>Answer that your father has sworn you to secrecy of the matters, but admit it would make a good play like many of your other adventures had
>Give an altered account of your battle with Be'lakor to avoid breaking your oath
>Reply with a request for a story of perturabo's own life, so you may get to know each other as brothers. it worked with you and Magnus after all

So tell him we are sworn to secrecy, explain the battle without breaking the oath but maybe explain to him that the "Witless Barbarians" as he termed them were the cause. Perty is smart but I kinda want to see how good his deductive skills are.

I do kinda want to tell him about seeing the eye the first time we went into outer space. Maybe we can mention this as our story as recompense for learning about Perty's life.
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>>5050684
+1
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>>5050684
>>5050674
Supporting this.
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>>5050684
I'll support.
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>>5050674
>>Answer that your father has sworn you to secrecy of the matters, but admit it would make a good play like many of your other adventures had
>>Reply with a request for a story of perturabo's own life, so you may get to know each other as brothers. it worked with you and Magnus after all
"Tell me of yourself, brother. Tell me of your world. Tell me of the deeds you've done and feats you've accomplished. Tell me of those who have taken you in. Tell me of your upbringing, of your life that I have most lamentably missed out on.
>But hey, you're talking with Perturabo.
I'll bet it isn't as short or one-sided as conversation with the Twins, who just say "maybe" in response to anything directed towards them.
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>>5050680
Support
Write-in
>perhaps when you eventually meet father you can ask him about the details.
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>>5050684
+1

>>5050674
Tell him we did some real stupid shit on accident, hence now we're "very unlucky", hence the branding on our head. So to speak. The less he knows about it now the better, trust us on this.
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Rereading our talk with Amaenoth I'm curious if we taught any of our eldar students in the journey our psyker technique that let's us both alter the battle field and mantle peeps and concepts.

I'm also curious if we shared that with magnus too. Seeing Magnus's use it would be a amazing since he could get a lot more out of it.
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>>5050684
Supporting
It's skirting the line with our oath quite a bit, but hopefully our honesty will get us more in the long term then making absolutely sure we don't spread memetic chaos bullshit.

>>5050644
>"Why my wife hates the knife ears, a visual representation cast betwixt the stars"
Malal please My SIDES
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>>5050644
Having reread the eldar part of this long thread why hasn't Lieren explained to Magnus what happened to his soul? You've implied Magnus has asked before and that Lieren has dodged explaining why it's on fire.
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>>5050768
It's more than a technique anon. It's an "enlightenment" (basically we conquered a portion of the warp gaining godlike powers) which we derive techniques from. These normally take daemonic pacts to obtain.
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>>5050775
Really? I don't remember that. It's always been described as a technique when ever we use it.
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>>5050780
When we first meditated to gain psyker powers we were given a choice between several options each granting a different enlightment. The first use of our powers just so happened to correspond with the enlightment which developed the techniques you are thinking of.
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>>5050674
>>Give an altered account of your battle with Be'lakor to avoid breaking your oath
>>Reply with a request for a story of perturabo's own life, so you may get to know each other as brothers. it worked with you and Magnus after all
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>>5050684
+1
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Huh just remembered that we already broke our vow when we told Carp, son.
I don't see a reason we don't tell pert.
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>>5050674
BACKING this guy>>5050684
Also Adding

>Ask Dad possibly when he arrives for you?
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>>5050995
Honestly he wouldn't that bothered by Lieren telling Jinhai but telling another Primarch would piss him off hard.
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>>5050674
This is the perfect opportunity to explain the eye I an acceptable manner!

>Write in
Tell how how foul forces of primordial and emotional origin sweep over the galaxy some places more touched than others such as the weeping eye of "Eldars Folly".

Explain to him we tried studying it but were not ready to face the currents of chaos and such. It was how he found us but now we know of him we can tell father!

Then share with him how we met Magnus before turning the talking to him, maybe if he understands the steel eggs he can find a way to talk to the others to?
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Well. If specific knowledge of chaos gives them an increase in influence in your general area. We could specify that
"Dad has deemed these things a security threat. An infection that can spread with its knowledge.

These things will start fucking with your world if we tell you any more. And you will soon be fighting them when you get off planet.

Enjoy the vacation."

Is it even right to keep the knowledge from him? He's already got problems with the eye of terror. Giving an identity to his fears could calm him down...... Oh right. Giga austist. Will start seeing patterns and problems where none exist.

Will obsess. will make things worse for everyone involved.
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>>5051089
>>5051027
>Chaos is just a memetic effect
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>>5051111
You forgot to link to me too
>>5050677
Also checked.
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>>5050995
>>5051017
We told someone on a planet that has had actively incursions and manipulation on it from chaos already. Some how I doubt the emperor is going to be upset we told our local ruler about them and what to look out for.
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>>5051159
Big E will absolutely be upset about that.
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>>5051176
Then he's going to be pissed about the entire group of psykers we've been teaching information about chaos too.
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>>5051176
Jinhai is basically Lieren's Malcador.
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>>5051185
let's hope our Malcador dies a peaceful and happy death.
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>>5051185
They even picked up on that when they talked and Lieren told the emperor about his life.
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>>5051189
Lets hope that his life is a full one. And that his children/Successor is also worthy.
>>5051176
Nothing we can do. We have assessed his mental state and decided that a stable mental state would be preferable to ignorance considering that he's constantly looking at the eye of terror.
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>>5051182
We didn't exactly tell them. The knowledge was Guozhi's sect. And we required an active defense because of the thinness of the barrier between the reality and the immaterium .

There's operational secrecy. And there's complete and utter suicidal stupidity. Emp's would be unhappy of the necessity but proud of our choice.
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>>5051211
>Nothing we can do. We have assessed his mental state and decided that a stable mental state would be preferable to ignorance considering that he's constantly looking at the eye of terror.
Jinhei isn't looking at the eye of terror constantly.
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>>5051218
I have failed logic.
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>>5051218
I have shamed my self. I must commit sudoku.
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I think the problem with chaos is once it is out the box that is pretty much it. From there it is enough even if you don't know of it they can drop a Desmond on you and tell you and everyone thus fucking it.

So I propose we take dad the golden age tech rig up a colossal communication net work and collectively wipe the minds of all life in the galaxy of chaos by reverse engineering our staff and so chaos will die.
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>>5051353
they also feed on emotions and concepts like war and what not happening in the materium.
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>>5051353
I doubt we'd ever really conquer it even with a universal mindwipe. Chaos happened once naturally so there is no real way to eradicate it without just killing everybody in the materium. Best to just treat it as an opportunity to grow. Fight the good fight as it were.
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I think we need to have a pretty heavy word with pops about it, the only even slightly, slimmest of chances solution I see is pretty unspeakably evil

1) establish a safe zone in the web way to store chosen subjects
2) wipe chaos related memories
3) purge the galaxy of life
4a) reboot it and using machines steer though to atleast make the next forming chaos gods not evil
4b) or with the warp calm create artificial gods using directed focus on characters dad won't like it but we'd not get this far without him anyway
4c) Lmao we pull a necron 2.0 and wipe all life and try to starve them out before waking up
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>>5051360
One of the issues and reasons why the eldar don't just abandon the galaxy is that even if they went to another one they would just take chaos with them due to knowing about them.
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>>5051364
You know that makes me think, the exodires bailed and went to far flung areas to avoid the warp shittery. If you go far enough from the galaxy is the warp on the flip side of reality calm and tranquil as our region once was? Could you in theory go into the void between galaxies and harness the power of the warp away from the cluster fuck in the galaxy?
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>>5051374
no cause you take chaos with you. It got brought up in one novel of the eldar just ditching the milkyway and Eldrad shut that down real fast.

Also canonicaly I think the 40k verse has a dwarf galaxy near them that they visit.
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Dwarf galaxy as in Squats or sub-standard sized galaxy? ^_^
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>>5051551
sub-standard. I remember reading something about the mechanius mining planets in one but that was forever ago and I can't track it down again.
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>>5051546
>>5051560
There's also the Mu Empire, or something like that.

It's a *highly* advanced xeno civilization as large, if not larger than, the Imperium. And uh...it's the kind of power that keeps the Inquisition awake at night.
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>>5051622
Never heard of them
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>>5051622
>Mu Empire
Can't seem to find anything on them, but there are a good few fledgling xenos powers that are slowly encroaching upon Imperial territory. The Q'orl Swarmhood, Uluméathic League, Church of the Dracolith, Draxian Hegemony, and the Worldweave of the Noisome Reek are all budding powers in the current canon.
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>>5051643
Don't forget the Ramgdan and the Slaugth.
They are the ones we should be really worried about right now.
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>>5051650
>Don't forget the Rangdan and the Slaugth.
I haven't but the former is (probably) extinct in current 40k and the latter is suffering the fate of all Xenos that aren't Ork, Necron, Tau, or some flavor of Eldar.
>They are the ones we should be really worried about right now.
Really hyped for the Xenocides, full faith that Malal can do the stygian-levels of grimdarkness justice. That and I'm a sucker for HR Gieger. There was a great series of threads on /tg/ a few years ago about minor xenos races, here they are if anyone's interested.
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/61796828
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/61921097/
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/62013329/
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>>5051661
here's hoping with our help that the space wolves and dark angles don't get majorly fucked [spoilers] we'll all only get moderately fucked. [spoilers/]
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>>5050684
>+1
Backing, the emperor ended up describing chaos as warp dwelling xenos in those cases where he had to run damage control or some knowledge had to be given out of necessity.
So it has precedent and Lieren being good at wordplay and Pert knowing its a half truth will likely be enough to ensure it is a net benefit.
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>>5051676
>here's hoping with our help that the space wolves and dark angles don't get majorly fucked
I'm not sure if we'll be in any place to help them. The Xenocides are the event that the majority of people seem to think lead to the complete purgation of the 2nd and 11th from Imperial records. I don't think we've had enough of a butterfly effect to avoid that tribulation, so our focus is gonna be on not getting disappeared. Besides, I think getting knocked down a peg would be good for the Lion.
>>5051680
>>5051682
No need to repeat yourself, anon.
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>>5051683
if the Xenocides led to the purging of the second I don't see why we as the second wouldn't be involved. Plus if the lion and the wolf don't get BTFOed it means that the loyalist forces aren't as weak.
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>>5051726
It's also important to remember that a lot of the suspicion and distrust that the canon traitors held for Emps (besides their own individual issues) all started with the genocides and how the Emperor completely buried two of their brothers, and only worsened as more things were left unexplained than not, without care for their feelings.

It would have been less painful, created less of a gap between father and sons, if they could know the how's and why's.
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>>5051683
I fucked up my post formatting twice, it seemed on my end that deleted posts were flushed immediately. Am I clogging up the thread for Malal or others anons? I can restrain my OCD in that case.
Seems the moe archive of this thread never forgets at least, suppose its best to act like delete post doesn't exist and just be very methodical.
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>>5051726
>if the Xenocides led to the purging of the second I don't see why we as the second wouldn't be involved
I mean to say that we might be far too busy fighting against whatever led to the downfall of our canon counterpart to coordinate with Russ and the Lion.
>Plus if the lion and the wolf don't get BTFOed it means that the loyalist forces aren't as weak.
The loyalists are already going to be much stronger, they'll have another legion on their side. Maybe 3.
>>5051753
I'm just taking the piss anon, don't worry about it.
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>>5051769
Just for a moment, expanding on my thoughts here >>5051742

I know the Rangdan Genocides will still have an immense price; it was a dominant power that *needed* to be destroyed if the Imperium was to be born. I only wonder if we only changed who is serving in those battles; what if Fulgrim and Ferrus fight, and one of them should fall? How might that effect their characters and Legions?
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>>5052273
>I only wonder if we only changed who is serving in those battles;
I hope not too much, Leman and Lion are two of the best warriors and commanders of the primarchs. Sanguinius and Horus are the only other ones on that tier that I can think of, and the Imperium needs its best to beat the Rangda. There's also the fact that all the primarchs might not have been found by the time of the Xenocides. They are, presumably, safe from those dangers, unless our butterfly effect has changed that.
>what if Fulgrim and Ferrus fight, and one of them should fall? How might that effect their characters and Legions?
I think that the failings of the canon 2nd and 11th weren't matters of skill, but of character. It's been said somewhere that whatever they did went against the GC at the basest level. Other brothers might fall, but they won't warrant the Emperor expunging them from every record in the Galaxy. Maybe one of them gets captured by the Rangda, brainwashed, and sent back to the Imperium as a sleeper agent. Might be fun.

Also, everyone bust out the tech-cant of your choosing, I have a sneaking suspicion that Malal's machine spirits might need some prayer.
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>>5052290
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It's strange that this thread got the binary prayer first. I mean there is an actual Mechanicus primarch quest out at the same time as this one.
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>>5052370
We've made more progress and had longer to get attached. It's no wonder we worry about the QM.
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Calling the vote now. Sorry for the wait

Answer that your father has sworn you to secrecy of the matters, but admit it would make a good play like many of your other adventures had:13

It was an enemy that grows stronger the more they are know about, so I urge you to keep the protection that ignorance brings. Perhaps one day, when we are all reunited we can better prepare to bring the fight to them.:1

Reply with a request for a story of perturabo's own life, so you may get to know each other as brothers. it worked with you and Magnus after all:14

"Once our father has found a way to combat their schemes brother, then I can tell you the whole story":2

Give an altered account of your battle with Be'lakor to avoid breaking your oath:10

perhaps when you eventually meet father you can ask him about the details.:2

Tell him we did some real stupid shit on accident, hence now we're "very unlucky",: 1

Tell how how foul forces of primordial and emotional origin sweep over the galaxy some places more touched than others such as the weeping eye of "Eldars Folly".: 1

Total votes:15

So Lieren will answer he was sworn to secrecy, but give an altered account of the battle with Be'lakor and request a story from perturabo as well, so the two may get to better know eachother

Writing now

>>5052298
I appreciate that

>>5052370
is it? Is it really?

>>5051661
I am excited to get to that point
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>>5052370
Well, it's Malal's PC's machine spirits that needs to be soothed, MachineQM seem to have a more pleasant one.
I've been spamming to break with ritual is to break with faith there if it helps
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>>5052429
>Is it? Is it really?

Okay. Maybe his machine spirits don't need the extra support. in that case they're all yours.

BRING ON DA UPDATE ^_^
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And, that observation decides your answer. It is unlikely for a culture, or at least a man like perturabo to fall to the whiles and temptations of wicked spirits. While his manner of speaking and intonations may not reflect the character of his adoptive culture or world, it does reveal his personal character and core of his personality. You warned Jinhai, because every dynasty before his had been subverted by chaos and its forces still bedevil the world. The way Perturabo speaks of superstition and witches shows he is not one given to fantasy and delusion, he is an austere man. Order personified, more than you or Magnus ever could be. If there was ever a man who could be certain to resist the lure of discordant power and rewards, it would either be Perturabo or Yin Lei. You broke your oath before out of necessity, if you learn your second brother is threatened by your greatest enemy, you can always break it again another day. Now, it would appear you can be true to the promise given to your father. These spirits grow strong when they are known, when men fear and devout themselves to them in the most contemptible of rites. Looking at the scion of Olympia, you cannot imagine him lowering himself to serve such powers, degrading himself to worship and dance beneath a blood red mood unclothed and feverish.

Could this stone faced architect be seduced by a witch, advised by a wicked sage? Could his artist's soul be twisted by the preening fingers of Sie Nie? No, the queen of hedonism can not appreciate true beauty only its degraded, extravagant understanding of it, nor can she tolerate stark lifestyles or artistry. What of Jian Qi? Would his schemes and prophecies open the gate of your brother's iron wills! No, Perturabo is too logical and earthly minded to trust prophecies! Would cynical whispers of hopelessness and inevitable decay break his spirit and make him a simpering nihilist like Na Gou's flock? Perturabo's heart is burning with both conviction and passion, which is as venom to the Patriarch of all filth. And what of the vile Kong Nue? Your brother's temper rages and flares, but looking into his hard eyes, you cannot envision a future where he would willingly soak his hands and dye them crimson with the blood of men, slobbering and howling of skulls and slaughter.

Perturabo is safe from your true enemy's manipulations, at least presently. You intend to speak to him in the future, as often as you're able to and he is willing. If a weakness in his demeanor or circumstances reveals itself, you can break your word and explain the dangers of Wicked spirits and Chaos then. And if for any reason you can or will not, you trust Magnus to be Wise and teach him in your place. Your Father surely would forgive such a breach, if it meant saving Perturabo's soul and mind from the corruption and deviancy of discordant spirits.

"Our father has sworn me to secrecy on the matter" You answer solemnly, watching Pertruabo's brow furrow and wrinkle.

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>>5052496

"Though the battle would have made an excellent, inspiring play like many of my other adventures upon the road of life" You muse "And one that would surely inspire nightmares and mad men for centuries after my passing. However, seeing your disappointment, brother, I will tell you of my fateful meeting with our father and the battle that lead to it"

"Breaking your promise already?" He ask sardonically

"My secrecy is in the details, you've named me a poet and it is an accurate title to bequeath me" You say with a humble smile and a bow "I am certain a man of your intellect will be able to piece together a vision approaching the truth, while I am confident in my ability to mask it in my retelling, as "Flowery" and "Extravagant" as it may seem to your ears"

A queer smile spread over Perturabo's lips.

"So it is a challenge, a duel of a kind. Between my intuition and your fae deception?" He asks ,more energetically than he has yet spoken

You grin like a jackal, eyes glowing with mirth

"If that is how it appears, then you are welcome to see it as such" You answer playfully "I just believe story telling to be an expression of the self, the soul. Understanding can be swiftly reached by a simple exchange of tales"

"So you expect me to share an experience of my own, a fair exchange" Perturabo replies dully, motioning with a subtle shift of his wrist "Well, regale me with this altered account of your first meeting with our father"

"I am at times dangerously curious and bold. I know my limits well, but what I do not understand is a grave weakness yet" You begin, sitting down and crossing your legs in meditations, the first clue you give to your brother "For these eyes of my can reveal the truth of all that passes before them, any opponent I meet is swiftly brought to their end by these strong hands of mine. However, to know something, I must first look upon it. A grave flaw of my truth seeking eyes. If something remains outside of my vision, or hides from me. I cannot know it as I, for instance, now know you"

"You'd make a terrifying spymaster" Perturabo observes darkly "if your words are anything but symbolic"

You smile, and say nothing in reply.

"To know of the malevolence of that which I hate, the cruels schemes of men, the wild yearning of their hearts, the ambitions of fools, I must gaze into their hearts" You continue on, wishing you had a Guqin to pluck so its music may accompany your tale "The Witless barbarians, had come to my world to control its kingdoms and make me their pawn, so I sought them out. And soon learned they were too cowardly to step foot upon fair Shangrala and face me directly. So, foolhardy, prideful of my abilities as a psyker despite knowing I am lesser to our brother Magnus, I boldly stepped forth into the Emperyan by following the signatures of their psionic presence left in the shattered minds of their pawns"

You sigh through your teeth, remembering your grave folly,
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>>5052497

"and I was ambushed, by an agent of theirs, a mercenary of power and expertise far beyond my own, who only followed their commands for the chance to deny the prize they sought in my life and future" You say, a little quieter now "My mind was cast into the far reaches of the great sea of souls, far away from my protections and anchors to return home. Forced to battle an ancient mind, who has known not but war and killing for centuries, The enemies of our family gleefully spectated from their own, distant sanctums, delighting in my pain and promising the call off their dog if I just accepted their barbaric rule and swore allegiance to their backwards empire"

You smile, remembering magnus' brave intervention, how relieved and overjoyed you were at his arrival to your side.

"But, they were fools. Who forgot the existence of the others they scattered in their haste to end or enslave me. First, Magnus came, using his great psionic might to shatter the wards and protections they prepared to keep me from fleeing back to my body" You continue on "Technology so advance it may as well be named magic, burned out in a moment by our red brother's approach"

"Together, the anarchist hired to break my will or take my head was overwhelmed, though he fought ferociously yet even if Magnus' peerless power gravely wounded his mind in the astral plane and his body in the material" You explain with a nod "But, I, who was weakened from battling the evil minded warrior on my lonesome, and the shock of being torn from across the Empyrean, was felled by the mercenaries techniques and strength, and was gravely injured and even scarred by the cretin's touch"

You raise your head, basking in the rays of the sun flowing through the window in Kanzeon's hull.

"And, Magnus, wise as he is, contacted our father, from whom these wicked men had long hid themselves from fear of his vengeance in stealing us away in a petty act of spite!" You exclaim "Faced with his better in both combat and psykerism, the dog they called fled with his tail between his legs, leaving me bleeding on the floor, humbled but victorious in my search for knowledge. Our father took me to his Sanctum in the Emperyan, waiting for me to recover from my wounds and return to my senses before he greeted to me and spoke with me, and introduced me to our extended family before asking me to swear an Oath of secrecy. And, as I looked upon him, I saw, like our brother and yourself, he was a good man at heart, so I have done all I am able to to keep this secret"

Perturabo nodded.

"I cannot fault you for keeping a promise to the man who gave you life and saved it. Honesty is an attribute few men possess though many praise it when it tickles their egos" He stated solemnly "Truly, these foes of ours must be the lowest of imbeciles, to risk squandering a talented genius equal to my own capabilities due to a petty grudge and lack of foresight. How did they manage to scatter us to begin with..."
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>>5052498

"Though I suppose that is a detail that you already know, that our father wishes to remain hidden. Hmm"

He places a hand over his mouth and chin in thought

"When we next meet" He states confidently "I will tell you the story of what actually happened that day, I am certain. Its a wonderful challenge, finding the truth in a story. Like researching history recorded only in song, rather than stone"

"Certainly, it is an exciting endeavor, no?" You reply coyly "But, what tale will you give in return, Brother Perturabo"

"One of my youth" He states coldly "And the end of my solitary existence, though not an end to my solitude. I had, always been exploited for my talents, in combat and as an artisan, It was how I made my living in my infantile years, guarding those too weak or cowardly to take up arms themselves, and creating for those who could not appreciate the value of my craft. I was sought out by the tyrant Dammekos, who sought to gain my services in perpetuity, though I was shrewd enough to ask for the finest military training and scholarly tutors his vast wealth could afford him, rather than sell myself for pointless things. Though I believe the man still believes me to be swayed, with how he drowns me with mock affection in hope of winning my favor"

Ah, your brother is a mistrusting sort, though that was clear from his reaction at first meeting you. His mercurial mood, though treacherous, is perhaps why he was so accepting and willing to hear your "Lie" of your battle of Be'lakor without a fuss. If his temper had shifted, you are certain he would hold you with scorn as he does his adoptive father. Who you wonder why he has not yet killed him, if he is a tyrant. Perhaps such oaths of service are as strong as filial piety is within Long-Jia?

"Coincidentally, I was found outside the cliffs of the city he ruled, during a storm. His city guards met me as I reached the summit and" Perturabo says, his eyes darkening "In the sky...."

He pauses, remembering something both painful and enraging. The source of his distrusting nature? He looked towards the sky and.

You see beyond Perturabo, back through the window set before your body. At the mysterious rift in reality, and realize he had grown used to a piercing, judging glare. Like the terrible eye hanging upon the cosmic horizon

Oh dear. Perhaps Perturabo is threatened after all

What do you do, Lieren?

>Keep your quiet, and let Perturabo continue his story without interruption. Its probably just a coincidence

>Describe the terrible eye to perturabo, to prove your suspicions that the wound left by the eldar's debauchery has haunted him

>Mutter that your brother may be able to hear the whole truth of your story after all

>Ask if Dammekos affections may be shown in earnest, if not out of love then out of gratitude.

>write in
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>>5052501
>>Describe the terrible eye to perturabo, to prove your suspicions that the wound left by the eldar's debauchery has haunted him
>>Mutter that your brother may be able to hear the whole truth of your story after all
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>>5052501
>>Describe the terrible eye to perturabo, to prove your suspicions that the wound left by the eldar's debauchery has haunted him
>>Mutter that your brother may be able to hear the whole truth of your story after all
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>>5052501
>Keep your quiet, and let Perturabo continue his story without interruption. Its probably just a coincidence

>Describe the terrible eye to perturabo, to prove your suspicions that the wound left by the eldar's debauchery has haunted him
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>>5052501
>>Describe the terrible eye to perturabo, to prove your suspicions that the wound left by the eldar's debauchery has haunted him
>>Mutter that your brother may be able to hear the whole truth of your story after all
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>>5052501
>>Keep your quiet, and let Perturabo continue his story without interruption. Its probably just a coincidence
>>Describe the terrible eye to perturabo, to prove your suspicions that the wound left by the eldar's debauchery has haunted him
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>>5052503
>Describe the terrible eye to perturabo, to prove your suspicions that the wound left by the eldar's debauchery has haunted him
>Mutter that your brother may be able to hear the whole truth of your story after all

sorry pops but we gotta do what we gotta do.
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Are there any plans to invite Magnus or Pert to our wedding? Maybe the emperor once we explain what Kanzeon is exactly?
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>>5052501
>>>Describe the terrible eye to perturabo, to prove your suspicions that the wound left by the eldar's debauchery has haunted him
>>>Mutter that your brother may be able to hear the whole truth of your story after all
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>>5052501
>>Describe the terrible eye to perturabo, to prove your suspicions that the wound left by the eldar's debauchery has haunted him
>>Mutter that your brother may be able to hear the whole truth of your story after all
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>>Describe the terrible eye to perturabo, to prove your suspicions that the wound left by the eldar's debauchery has haunted him
>>Mutter that your brother may be able to hear the whole truth of your story after all
>>Write in: If asked why we broke our promise. Reason that father means to protect us from the attentions of the enemy by ignorance. For even mere thoughts can catch their attention. Though it seems that their attention has been on Peturabo even longer than it has been on us.
>>Also provide the reason of the birth of the eye. Information is power. The eye was literally fucked into existence.
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>>5052501
>Describe the terrible eye to perturabo, to prove your suspicions that the wound left by the eldar's debauchery has haunted him
>Mutter that your brother may be able to hear the whole truth of your story after all
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>>5052540
I'll also support the write-ins
>>Write in: If asked why we broke our promise. Reason that father means to protect us from the attentions of the enemy by ignorance. For even mere thoughts can catch their attention. Though it seems that their attention has been on Peturabo even longer than it has been on us.
>>Also provide the reason of the birth of the eye. Information is power. The eye was literally fucked into existence.
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>>5052501
>Describe the terrible eye to perturabo, to prove your suspicions that the wound left by the eldar's debauchery has haunted him
>Mutter that your brother may be able to hear the whole truth of your story after all

>>5052521
Actually, Couldn't we get to them IN time for a wedding?Surely Kazan has a Warp Abucast or w.e. its called from the dark ages?
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>>5052521
well, it would be kinda hard because it would have to be a wedding in the warp so we can't invite non-psykers. that's a no go since we then can't invite our adoptive father unless we hold two weddings.
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>>5052557
I would like to point out we're manifesting on Pert's world. Magnus can help him manifest on ours.
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>>5052501
>Describe the terrible eye to perturabo, to prove your suspicions that the wound left by the eldar's debauchery has haunted him
>Mutter that your brother may be able to hear the whole truth of your story after all
Not sure what the second option entails, but either way he will probably connect the dots between our story and the eye we are the only ones to see apart from him.

>>5052521
I guess we could try Magnus and Pert, but I'd rather it be a surprise for Emps. If he gets to pull
>Wanna meet your sons?
Then it's only fair we pull
>Wanna meet your daughter in law?
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>>5052501

>Describe the eye
>Ask if his affections may be shown in earnest, out of gratitude.
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>>5052501
>Describe the terrible eye to perturabo, to prove your suspicions that the wound left by the eldar's debauchery has haunted him

>keep the story hidden from him but tell him that perhaps he may already have clues to the truth while looking up

We just issued a challenge between brothers guys, this is more important than just outright telling him what happened because he will never forgive us for denying him our challenge


Seriously guys, when pertubaro is challenged you better challenge him, instead ask him to perhaps see his family in a better light, though the people of his culture are quite different from ours you're sure that even the distrustful people of his world know love and familial piety in some capacity
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>>5052582
I agree. Lets not ruin the challenge.

Perty will hate that.
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>>5052582
Better to go full retard as soon as possible and forever gain his enmity. Seriously explicitly telling him about Chaos is stupid since that drives him to look deeper into it, which is suicidal.
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>>5052582
+1

People are always too eager to just go right out and "fix" everything as if this was some stupid fixfic, this is a story and every action we take has new results, outright telling him is stupid as hell but nudging him to the right conclusions is good and gives us the least chance of screwing up
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>>5052501
>>Describe the terrible eye to perturabo, to prove your suspicions that the wound left by the eldar's debauchery has haunted him
>>keep the story hidden from him but tell him that perhaps he may already have clues to the truth while looking up
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>>5052582
It's been a while since I've seen someone fail this much to read. It's literally muttering to our selves that we might be able to tell him the truth after all.

If it was a blanket vote to tell him then malal would have written it as such.
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>>5052643
Pertorabo is going hear us. You know he will.
If we dont want him to hear us, dont say anything.
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>>5052643
Anon. Schematics based arguments are garbage. We all know that the option has more to it then what you say it does.
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>>5052501
>>Ask if Dammekos affections may be shown in earnest, if not out of love then out of gratitude.
>>Keep the story hidden from him but tell him that perhaps he may already have clues to the truth while looking up
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>>5052650
>>5052651
At most it all it does is tells him that the story we told him is tied to the eye he feels judging his ass every day. There will be a further vote on whether or not to tell him.
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>>5052650
>Pertorabo is going hear us.
Good, that's the point.
By saying this, we are implying the eye is related to the truth we have not told him, indirectly cluing him into what actually happened without outright telling him.

Which is, funnily enough, pretty much what you voted for too.
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>>5052501
>>Describe the terrible eye to perturabo, to prove your suspicions that the wound left by the eldar's debauchery has haunted him

All others are bad
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>>5052582
Supporting.
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>>5052501
>>Ask if Dammekos affections may be shown in earnest, if not out of love then out of gratitude.
> >Describe the terrible eye to perturabo, to prove your suspicions that the wound left by the eldar's debauchery has haunted him
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>>5052501
>>Describe the terrible eye to perturabo, to prove your suspicions that the wound left by the eldar's debauchery has haunted him
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>>5052501
>Describe the terrible eye to perturabo, to prove your suspicions that the wound left by the eldar's debauchery has haunted him
>Mutter that your brother may be able to hear the whole truth of your story after all
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I've been wonder if we should ask if he be up for us channeling him to build stuff. Maybe we could even let him "take the wheel" for a bit and let him go crazy with his art.
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>>5052741
"Pertubaro, I need you to build a house for my honeymoon, go wild"
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>>5052741
Probably shouldn't channel him too much. He may feel the abuse link of just being used.
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We should also probably talk to pert about his adoptive father before he decides to up and kill him. Thankfully we have time however. Actually, looking at it. It's weird we're talking to Pert. He shouldn't have emerged out of the warp yet into the physical realm.

But then again time gets weird with the warp.
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Also does anyone remember the name of and the thread we found that psyker that was going to off himself up along the border of bask?
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>>5052849
>We should also probably talk to pert about his adoptive father before he decides to up and kill him.
Shouldn't be too much of a problem, Dammekos died of old age in canon. I don't think Pert meeting us is going to change that. Even if he find himself inspired to kill tyrants by the score, I think his love for Calliphone would stay his hand. That being said, I do want to help him with his home life. Dammekos' son Andros seems like our kind of guy.
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>>5052853
Disregard this question I finally found it.
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>>5052570
>Then it's only fair we pull
>>Wanna meet your daughter in law?

only if we break out the grandchild card with the 300 tiger folk children we adopted.
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"Reversal of the magnetic poles, tilting the planets orbit. It in all probability was caused by one falling into a large deposit of iron or other conductive material" She explains as Kuan im nods.

Oh. I had completely forgotten that our planets polarity was reversed.


Also really curious who Gouzhi was originally. And Lieren should know considering his eyes.
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>>5052857
Andros does seem to be a chill guy.
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>>5052867
>Oh. I had completely forgotten that our planets polarity was reversed.
Wonder if that'll come up in the future.
>And Lieren should know considering his eyes.
Lieren'll be able to recognize him next time he reincarnates, but we wouldn't know who he once was unless he tells us because we never met those people. Maybe we'll be able to pick him out of a picture of Kanzeon or Kuan Im's crew, but that seems a stretch to me.
>>5052873
He really does. He'd be a good next step for Pert, after Calliphone. Gotta ease him into being a member of the family.
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>>5052873
I honestly can't find any information on him online.
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>>5052878
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Andos
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Did Malal ever reveal what the other options were for our tribulation? Considering the one we chose was from WHF the others might have been as well.
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>>5052859
Which thread was it in?
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>>5052890
Thread 10
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What do if we meet Gork and Mork in the warp?
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>>5052950
Lieren's first encounter with anything orkoid is going to be two posts of intense self-reflection, two of restructuring his view of the galaxy, and one of hysterical, panicked laughter.
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>>5052501
>>Describe the terrible eye to perturabo, to prove your suspicions that the wound left by the eldar's debauchery has haunted him
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>>5052501
>Keep your quiet, and let Perturabo continue his story without interruption. Its probably just a coincidence
>Describe the terrible eye to perturabo, to prove your suspicions that the wound left by the eldar's debauchery has haunted him
Let's not interrupt Pert since really only the eye is something we have to bring up, Lieren might be able to figure out Dammekos or Olympia just from listening to Pert tell his story.
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>>5052863
Genius, that too.

>>5052950
Personally, I cannot wait for Lieren to meet Orks for the first time, it's going to be great. The potential for shenanigans is too good.

>my Primarch, why are we painting all the vehicles red?
>just... just do it.
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>>5052501
>>Keep your quiet, and let Perturabo continue his story without interruption. Its probably just a coincidence
>>Describe the terrible eye to perturabo, to prove your suspicions that the wound left by the eldar's debauchery has haunted him
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>>5052735
Changing the mutter to
>Keep your quiet, and let Perturabo continue his story without interruption. Its probably just a coincidence
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>>5052501
> Describe the terrible eye to Perturabo, to prove your suspicions that the wound left by the Eldar's debauchery has haunted him.
> Ask if Dammekos' affections may be shown in earnest, if not out of love then out of gratitude.
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>>5053044
I do believe there was talk about that in an earlier thread.

Imagine Orks consistently showing up to beat the piss out of Chaos just because they think Lieren will be a good fight.
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>>5052706
>>5052501
Adding
>Keep your quiet, and let Perturabo continue his story without interruption. Its probably just a coincidence
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>>5052501
I wanna change my previous one >5052509
to

>Keep your quiet, and let Perturabo continue his story without interruption. Its probably just a coincidence
>Describe the terrible eye to perturabo, to prove your suspicions that the wound left by the eldar's debauchery has haunted him

People raised some good points, Perty said he wants to tell us what he has worked out our little story meant and I don't want to spoil it to him.
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>>5053044
>lieren gets convinced orks might actually be onto something
There is no way this can possibly end well.
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>>5053233
Think of the possibilities!
> "Big Boss! Dat beakie Boss gots glowy yella eyez!"
> "Ooohhh...Dat roight dere sum neat flash. OI! MEK! GIMME SUM PEEPERS LOIK DAT!!"
> Golden Eyes: +10 to Hostile Xenos Relations (Orks)
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>>5053246
Since Orks think yellow things are flashier (both in terms of explosions and in terms of shininess) will they be our weak spots when fighting orks or will we be able to manifest the heat vision we passed on when fighting them?
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>5053262
Weren't we thinking purple for colour schemes at one point. I'd love an encounter where the orks just can't see the II legion murdering them. "Sneaky gitz"
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>>5053335
we got no fuckin idea on a color scheme, the only thing we know is gold lenses on our boys helmets. I say just save the discussion for whene we meet our boys
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>>5053335
Did someone say colour schemes?
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>>5053344
There's also this one, I know there is at least one anon that likes it.
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>>5053335
The scheme I suggested was a blue-purple gradient, which'd be sneaky AND lucky. But I agree with >>5053342. Golden lenses are the only sure thing and debate over which paintjob is best is kinda pointless until we actually meet our legion. It also devolves into shit-flinging pretty quickly, which is best avoided.
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>>5053335
>Second Legion comes to help fight back Xeno assault.
>As they arrive, they suddenly become transparent.
>*sigh* "Looks like we are fighting orks, lads."
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>>5053350
> Leman: "Hah! Neat."
> Corvus: "Oh now that's just cheating."
> Magnus: "A wonderful trick! Now watch me pull a Titan out of my hat!"
> Perturbo: "A ploy that turns the warmongering xenos psychic gestalt into an advantage? Fiendishly clever. I wonder how else this might be employed..."
> Emps: "...That's a new one."
> Cegorach: *Cackles Viciously*
> Tzeentch: "STOP STEALING MY COLORS YOU BASTARDS!!"
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>>5053382
>implying we'll be using Tzeentchs colors
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>>5053382

Lieren makes his dauntless few with the First brothers he meets each of them takes a colour of a chaos god and absolutely Spits on the gods ideals

Counterquery: Magnus is playing Vivisection gremlin with warp entities to learn about what makes them tick and how they work right? From what he's doing could he discover the preferred colour of a god or anything else wierd?
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>>5053394
All colors are Tzeentch colors.
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>>5053407
there is a reason why he has blue and pink horrors instead of red and green horrors.
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>>5053410
Brimstone Horrors are yellow, Discs of Tzeentch are rainbow pizzas, Silver Towers are silver, the Brotherhood of Dust, Crimson Sons, Magnus, and the original TS are all red, anyone worth their salt seems to have gold somewhere on their person, and the Scintillating Legions are iridescent, madness-inducing colors-out-of-space. Come to think of it, I'm surprised the Thyrrus haven't been corrupted.
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How does gold and silver work as a color scheme?
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>>5053457
I already tried that, it turned out that out of all combinations of types of white, the slight bone tinted was the more pleasing to the eye.
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>>5053461
Combination of gold with types of white.
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>>5053461
>>5053462
Silver is more greyish isn't it?
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>>5053465
Depends, yeah, but still close to white.
It still looked a bit off, I don't remember in which thread it was, but I'm sure there was an image posted.
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I'm excited to meet our children though, it'll be interesting seeing how they react to having a mom and half siblings
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>>5053508
Maybe they will expand on the snippets of the journey we shared with them on their own too, so we can have some philosophical debates.
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Hey guys, what are your favorite battles from this quest?
My top 3 are:
3) The battle against the fox,
2) The duel against Be'lakor
1) The daily battle of Malal and the machine spirit
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>>5052501
>>Keep your quiet, and let Perturabo continue his story without interruption. Its probably just a coincidence
On with the show. We can ask for clarification on the eye when he’s done.
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>>5053865
I prefer the one against the toad and the hidden master.
Malal vs machibe spirit is top tier though.
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Calling the vote now. Sorry for the wait.

Describe the terrible eye to perturabo, to prove your suspicions that the wound left by the eldar's debauchery has haunted him:25

Mutter that your brother may be able to hear the whole truth of your story after all:10

Keep your quiet, and let Perturabo continue his story without interruption. Its probably just a coincidence:8


If asked why we broke our promise. Reason that father means to protect us from the attentions of the enemy by ignorance....etc: 2

provide the reason of the birth of the eye. Information is power: 2

keep the story hidden from him but tell him that perhaps he may already have clues to the truth while looking up:4

Ask if Dammekos affections may be shown in earnest, if not out of love then out of gratitude.: 4

Total votes: 27

So you'll describe the terrible eye to perturabo, to see if that is what he saw in the night's sky that fateful night

Writing now


>>5053893
>>5053865
The constant uphill battle against technology


>>5053233
>>5053246
Reminds me of the eldar scholar who became convinced Orks were the perfect lifeforms

>>5053508
>>5053518
Oh I have plans for the second legion's evolution after they, before any other legion got contacted by papa and told "Am proud of you sons, here's advice"
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>>5053947
Did our telling the legion master to not hide his face/disfigurement also affect the legion? Like not being ashamed or hiding wounds sustained in combat?

You did a good job explaining how our best son felt, really made him feel human and worried about meeting his gene-father.
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You did find Perturabo while searching for other stargazers, particularly those studying or admiring the loathsome eye hanging upon the celestial horizon like a great bleeding wound leaking out the life of reality out into the stars like a sea of blood. He was unaware of your presence, as he was inured to the sensation of your piercing, truth seeking gaze. It is likely, beneath clear skies and with the peerless vision of a primarch and perhaps an inkling of psionic potential, your sternly natured brother saw the terrible eye wrought by the Aeldari of old's great folly of excess and monsterous hedonism. Cearnarch's peeling laughter ripples through your mind as you stare at the rift between the world of man and the realm of spirits and ghosts.

"A malevolent eye, hanging in the heaven's like the stare of a wrathful demon. Colored like bruises, fresh and old, like plum blossoms and the searing white of agony without end" You muse, pursing your lips together as you feel Kanzeon's presence on the back of your mind as she comes and checks in on you in your meditation, thinking herself hidden "Drops of wine red swallow countless worlds and stars, as from the terrible eye's gaping maw, through a wound rent of the abyss between the stars, a sea of blood flows and spreads. It watches, never blinking or knowing rest. Staring from ancient eons long forgotten"

"Judging all that fall beneath its gaze" Perturabo mutters, his eyes widening and face paling with shock as he realizes you are describing what he saw that night and have seen it as well "You have seen that eye as well, then Lieren?"

"I see it now, from where I sit, meditating above the world of my birth" You say quietly, speaking carefully to not reveal an ounce of dread or worry to Perturabo "It befouls my eyes to look upon, for if I stare too intently, I will know of its most dreadful realities. Truths no man should know or seek"

"You know of its history then, or of any of the effects it potentially has upon the psyches of men?" Perturabo nearly barks, his uninterested tone deepening and becoming alive with both dread and desire in equal measure "You say if you study something, you obtain a preternatural understanding of it, if I understood the meaning of the poetic phrase of "Revealing the truth of all that passes before them""

You nod, as Kanzeon is drawn from her stupor by the urge to speak ill of the Aeldari race.

"I know its history, and many theories of its influences" You admit quietly, before waving your hand "We can discuss it at length, but to do so now would interrupt the story you've began to tell me, which I do so greatly treasure"

Perturabo tightly clenches his jaw and grinds his teeth, becoming at first irritated and then nearly enraged before he calms himself and returns your nod.

"It is an exercise meant to bring us two brothers to a closer understanding, and I am pleased to know that I am not the only man aware of the eye's existence."
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>>5053978
"It is a relief, knowing you are not insane" He says through his teeth "Though the knowledge that I am not does little to relieve me of the sensations the eye inflicts upon me via its constant observation, but to continue my account, the guards of the city of Lochos met me at the summit of the rain slicked cliff, and could not see the eye when I asked them of it. Ever since it has judged me, measuring my worth moment to moment, spying upon ever second of my existence. Perhaps, I accepted your company because your attention is a warm counterpart to the eye's baleful gaze, Curiosity and consideration rather than cold scrutiny. It was that difference that made me notice your presence to begin with"

"Would you call it soothing?" You ask cheerfully

"Less vexing, perhaps" He replies dully, with a twitch of his lips showing the comment to be made in jest "But, The Tyrant Dammekos tested my worth, pitting me against warriors more experienced and physically larger than myself at the time and putting before me puzzles that confounded the most brilliant of his scholars, both of which I bested with ease. In my earliest years, I honed my body and mind, until I was old enough to choose a name for myself and become my patron's weapon as he had doubtlessly long desired me to become from the moment he heard rumors of my existence"

Perturbo nodded once

"Indeed, when you interrupted my work, I was in the process of designing a new siege engine, finishing alterations to a telescope intended for astrological use, finding an alternative means of production for not only lifesaving medicine by munitions for the armies I command, and of course routing streets built for the vehicles I have invented" He boasts, puffing his chest out with pride "in fact, I was about to begin work on reorganizing Lochos' energy grid to meet the increased demands of the many comforts I have brought to her people, and all of this"

He motions towards his table, lifting a crumpled piece of iron that must've been a goblet before.

"Mere hours after a failed assassination attempt, though I have yet to discern if it came from within or without" he pondered "Perhaps an officer in my armies who dreads the coming campaign, a craftsman jealous of my inventions, or the very foe I march to subjugate as per my agreement with Dammekos"

He pauses

"Forgive me, I've lost track of the story I was telling and the lesson of my character I intend to teach" Perturabo admitted as he tilted what remained of the goblet, checking to see if it still held any of its lethal payload "Even a mind as regimented as mine can be forgiven to wander when not occupied, I suppose, especially in good company"

He sets the twisted remains of the iron hewn drinking glass to the carefully organized surface of his workshop's counter.
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>>5053979

"Perhaps, I could instead share my military exploits, or implantation of the inventions I am much more proud of, or discuss the symbolism of the tower my adoptive sister and her handmaidens now inhabit or" He says, rapping his knuckles on the desk "If you're satisficed with my story has taught you of me, we can instead discuss the eye"

He turns to you, and you can tell from his expression which of the choices he would prefer.

What do you do, Lieren?

>Admit that no has ever tried to assassinate you, perhaps because you had any who were wicked and bold enough to do so hanged with the rest of their contemptible kinsmen and peers.

>Introduce Perturabo to Kanzeon, and allow her to tell him of the terrible eye. Her contempt for the Aeldari should entertain and strike a cord with your brother, and she is more informed of the matter than yourself

>Ask why Perturabo does not just kill Dammekos. Suffer not the tyrant to live has been a mantra that has served you well all your life

>Mention how Perturabo's work reminds you of your own! Truly if you had landed together as twins upon Shangrala, the spread of prosperity would have been much quicker and easily achieved!

>Write in

>>5053964
Thanks! and you will see
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>>5053980
>>Mention how Perturabo's work reminds you of your own! Truly if you had landed together as twins upon Shangrala, the spread of prosperity would have been much quicker and easily achieved!
>>Write in
>Discuss the ones who found him and took him in. He has mentioned this tyrant Dammekos and now a sister. What are they like? In turn, tell him of Weynan, the mother and brother you never knew, Jinhai and the Brotherhood, all of your nieces and nephews, and of course, your beloved Kanzeon.
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>> Write in: No one has been crazy enough to try assassinating me. They would find themselves in situations where I was trying to kill someone or something WAAAAYYYYYYYYYYY out of their league. They would be end up collateral damage if they were noticed at all. Indeed. I have been the greatest threat to my own safety considering the insane risks i've sent myself on.
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>>5053980
>>Admit that no has ever tried to assassinate you, perhaps because you had any who were wicked and bold enough to do so hanged with the rest of their contemptible kinsmen and peers.
>Mention how Perturabo's work reminds you of your own! Truly if you had landed together as twins upon Shangrala, the spread of prosperity would have been much quicker and easily achieved!
Write-in
>explain we may be able to allow his creations to spread across Shangrala by using the techniques we derived from the "cycle without end"
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>>5053980
>>Mention how Perturabo's work reminds you of your own! Truly if you had landed together as twins upon Shangrala, the spread of prosperity would have been much quicker and easily achieved!
>>Write in
>Discuss the ones who found him and took him in. He has mentioned this tyrant Dammekos and now a sister. What are they like? In turn, tell him of Weynan, the mother and brother you never knew, Jinhai and the Brotherhood, all of your nieces and nephews, and of course, your beloved Kanzeon.
>TALK ABOUT THE EYE BEFORE PERTY POPS A BLOOD VESSEL!
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>>5053980
I'll add

>Introduce Perturabo to Kanzeon, and allow her to tell him of the terrible eye. Her contempt for the Aeldari should entertain and strike a cord with your brother, and she is more informed of the matter than yourself
To my vote here.
>>5053987
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>>5053980
>Admit that no has ever tried to assassinate you, perhaps because you had any who were wicked and bold enough to do so hanged with the rest of their contemptible kinsmen and peers.
>Mention how Perturabo's work reminds you of your own! Truly if you had landed together as twins upon Shangrala, the spread of prosperity would have been much quicker and easily achieved!
>Introduce Perturabo to Kanzeon, and allow her to tell him of the terrible eye. Her contempt for the Aeldari should entertain and strike a cord with your brother, and she is more informed of the matter than yourself

>You nod, as Kanzeon is drawn from her stupor by the urge to speak ill of the Aeldari race.
I find this line far funnier than it was probably intended to be.
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>>5053980
>Mention how Perturabo's work reminds you of your own! Truly if you had landed together as twins upon Shangrala, the spread of prosperity would have been much quicker and easily achieved!

>Write in
Talk to him about the subject that he is most obviously interested in, his passion for architecture


Maybe also talk about his family but that's kind of a lost cause now, the tyrant truly does love perturabo like a son but as the saying goes "the day a man of Olympia loses his paranoia is the day he dies."
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>>5053984
>Mention how Perturabo's work reminds you of your own! Truly if you had landed together as twins upon Shangrala, the spread of prosperity would have been much quicker and easily achieved!
>Discuss the ones who found him and took him in. He has mentioned this tyrant Dammekos and now a sister. What are they like? In turn, tell him of Weynan, the mother and brother you never knew, Jinhai and the Brotherhood, all of your nieces and nephews, and of course, your beloved Kanzeon.
>TALK ABOUT THE EYE BEFORE PERTY POPS A BLOOD VESSEL!

our boy seems like he needs to vent
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>>5053980
>>Discuss the ones who found him and took him in. He has mentioned this tyrant Dammekos and now a sister. What are they like? In turn, tell him of Weynan, the mother and brother you never knew, Jinhai and the Brotherhood, all of your nieces and nephews, and of course, your beloved Kanzeon.
And then, with best girl mentioned,
>>Introduce Perturabo to Kanzeon, and allow her to tell him of the terrible eye. Her contempt for the Aeldari should entertain and strike a cord with your brother, and she is more informed of the matter than yourself
Just hope she’ll refrain from mentioning chaos explicitly
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>>5053980
>>Discuss the ones who found him and took him in. He has mentioned this tyrant Dammekos and now a sister. What are they like? In turn, tell him of Weynan, the mother and brother you never knew, Jinhai and the Brotherhood, all of your nieces and nephews, and of course, your beloved Kanzeon.
>>Introduce Perturabo to Kanzeon, and allow her to tell him of the terrible eye. Her contempt for the Aeldari should entertain and strike a cord with your brother, and she is more informed of the matter than yourself


Making my new vote this.
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>>5053980
>Introduce Perturabo to Kanzeon, and allow her to tell him of the terrible eye. Her contempt for the Aeldari should entertain and strike a cord with your brother, and she is more informed of the matter than yourself

It's not breaking our oath if she's the one talking.
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>>5053980
>Introduce Perturabo to Kanzeon, and allow her to tell him of the terrible eye. Her contempt for the Aeldari should entertain and strike a cord with your brother, and she is more informed of the matter than yourself
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>>5053980
>Admit that you cannot speak about the eye due to your promise.
>Subvert that promise by introducing him to your wife.
>Introduce Perturabo to Kanzeon, and allow her to tell him of the terrible eye. Her contempt for the Aeldari should entertain and strike a cord with your brother, and she is more informed of the matter than yourself
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>>5054016
>>5054004
You guys bring up a good point
>>5053980
>make sure Kanzeon doesn't talk Chaos, her attracting the Emperor's ire would be a terrible situation
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>>5053980
>Introduce Perturabo to Kanzeon, and allow her to tell him of the terrible eye. Her contempt for the Aeldari should entertain and strike a cord with your brother, and she is more informed of the matter than yourself

>Ask why Perturabo does not just kill Dammekos. Suffer not the tyrant to live has been a mantra that has served you well all your life
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>be lieren
>be sworn to secrecy
>have a wife that doesn't give a shit about the emperor since its his fault she's stuck as a ship mostly
>also she enjoys shitting on Eldar because most knife ears are generally bastards.
>pert gets his info, lieren doesn't break anything on his own, pert doesn't flip to chaos because the eye triggers his autism and everything chaos seems to annoy him
>the emperor is gonna have a much better time during the horus heresy because of lieren but have a massive headache dealing with his shenanigans
I'm OK with this as long as we don't end up killed for being shits.
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>>5054028
It's more likely he'll kill Kanzeon to make clear that he isn't fucking around and he isn't going to tolerate this shit
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>>5054034
I doubt he'd be so muderhobo about things. We'd probably get assigned to some grueling frontline campaign or mission more suited for someone like the War Hounds, Rout, or Revenant Legion. Best way to punish Lieren is to make him engage solely in warfare and killing. Best way to do that is by sending him against an enemy that can't be reasoned with or needs to be exterminated utterly. A handful genocidal campaigns through a few mutant-infested underhives should do it. Just so long as they're the degenerate, like picrel, and not stable like our nieces and nephews.
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>>5053980
>Introduce Perturabo to Kanzeon, and allow her to tell him of the terrible eye. Her contempt for the Aeldari should entertain and strike a cord with your brother, and she is more informed of the matter than yourself
>Ensure Kanzeon understands your oath of secrecy to your father before she begins
>Discuss the ones who found him and took him in. He has mentioned this tyrant Dammekos and now a sister. What are they like? In turn, tell him of Weynan, the mother and brother you never knew, Jinhai and the Brotherhood, all of your nieces and nephews, and of course, your beloved Kanzeon.
So Perts autism can't let him finish his story without his obsession of the eye getting indulged, we can fill him in and restart the tale with a poke. Only worry is if Pert gets it in his head to train himself to be a Psyker and his autism demands we teach him.
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>>5054054
I'll support that.
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>>5054034
Look, it's someone sucking GW's shitty portrayal of the emperor.
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>>5054064
>>5054041
You guy do realize she is effectively a Man of Iron in the eyes of the budding Imperium and you have to plead your case to the Emperor when you meet him of why he shouldn't kill her and her sisters. Her blabbing about Chaos to another Primarch is not a good case in her favor.
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>>5054077
No she's a new version of a man of stone and also has a fucking soul. I know reading comphension is a hard skill for people to pick up but at least try to understand what's been said in story.
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>>5054077
anon didn't read
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>>5054077
>>5054077
>You guy do realize she is effectively a Man of Iron in the eyes of the budding Imperium and you have to plead your case to the Emperor when you meet him of why he shouldn't kill her and her sisters.
Read the quest.
>Her blabbing about Chaos to another Primarch is not a good case in her favor.
That's not what anyone is voting for. You can explain the Eye without mentioning Chaos. A psychically-strong race of aliens engaging in generations of depraved hedonism resulted in psychic backlash that ripped a hole in reality through which the Warp and Warp energy flows. The Warp is a dimension parallel to the Materium. It's a great sea of energy and its currents are dictated by emotions and thoughts. The stronger the thought or emotion (and psychic potential of the person feeling it), the stronger the current. The more currents of a single emotion meet, the stronger warp energy flows and surges. The Aeldari were so psychically attuned that their feelings of excess were able to do what every other species' feelings of excess since the dawn of life had yet to do and tore a hole through reality. There you go. A Chaos-free explanation of the Warp and the Eye.
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>>5054079
>>5054080
>>5054084
I read that part. I also remember the part where her sisters got corrupted and a reactor leak could lead to dangerous mutations and weakening of the boundary between the Materium and Immaterium. Calling her a Man of Stone is inaccurate, rather she's a far different and more dangerous replacement for the Men of Iron which is fitting considering she's Age of Strife tech.
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>>5054150
>I read that part.
Lies are unbecoming of you, anon.
>I also remember the part where her sisters got corrupted
Ok. What's your point? They're sentients with a Warp presence. That's the criteria for being able to be corrupted.
>a reactor leak could lead to dangerous mutations and weakening of the boundary between the Materium and Immaterium
So could a gellar field failure. So could a rogue librarian. So could a sufficiently determined astropath. You aren't saying anything.
>Calling her a Man of Stone is inaccurate, rather she's a far different and more dangerous replacement for the Men of Iron which is fitting considering she's Age of Strife tech.
"If you forcefully combine several...many of these stolen souls, and refine them in first a psionic crucible to birth a new existence from their combined essence, and then force the new conglomerated soul to inhabit a digital code. You produce a half life, like the Men of Stone, a ghost in the machine, but unlike the Men of Iron, it exists beyond logic. Because it is human." From post >>5041503. Even if this wasn't said, Men of Stone are robots, artificial intelligence. Kanzeon and her ilk are made up of a bunch of human souls, which are not artificial.
TLDR, read the quest. For real this time.
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>>5053980
>Introduce Perturabo to Kanzeon, and allow her to tell him of the terrible eye. Her contempt for the Aeldari should entertain and strike a cord with your brother, and she is more informed of the matter than yourself
>Admit that no has ever tried to assassinate you, perhaps because you had any who were wicked and bold enough to do so hanged with the rest of their contemptible kinsmen and peers.
Do not mention the creations, pert was jealous of Dorn, not inspired.
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>>5054158
I think you meant Men of Iron were robots anon.
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>>5054165
I did, you're right.
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>>5054006
Support
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>>5054163
Except we're admiring his creation too and commenting that if we worked together we would have gotten stuff done on our planet faster.

Pert's issue with dorn was that dorn straight up said he was better at making shit then him
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>>5053980
I can definitely support this >>5053984
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>>5054216
I'm just worried about his autism, so I'm betting on what I think it's the safer options.
>>5054163
But I will change my vote of
>admit
To
>make sure Kanzeon doesn't talk Chaos, her attracting the Emperor's ire would be a terrible situation
>Ensure Kanzeon understands your oath of secrecy to your father before she begins
>Discuss the ones who found him and took him in. He has mentioned this tyrant Dammekos and now a sister. What are they like? In turn, tell him of Weynan, the mother and brother you never knew, Jinhai and the Brotherhood, all of your nieces and nephews, and of course, your beloved Kanzeon.
I changed my mind, so I deleted my last post.
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>>5053980
>>5054028
Supporting this line of conversation.
I also think that Pert is gonna love Kanzeon if he finds out she's part proto-machine spirit and part ship... and then when he finds out she has sisters.
Shipping the ship x Pert.
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>>5054278
But which ship, I wonder... Maybe Mari? She's shown her endurance and "iron," by burying herself for god-knows-how-long in quarantine. We know fuck all about the character of Anahita and Al-Uzza, Avalokiteśvara needs to be cleansed, Kuan Im is Huli Jing and her body needs to be cleansed before we can use it to host a (re)birthed soul, and Philotes and Albina are dead but their bodies can likewise be used to house re(birthed) souls.
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>>5053980
>>Mention how Perturabo's work reminds you of your own! Truly if you had landed together as twins upon Shangrala, the spread of prosperity would have been much quicker and easily achieved!
>Ask why Perturabo does not just kill Dammekos. Suffer not the tyrant to live has been a mantra that has served you well all your life
>>Write in
>Discuss the ones who found him and took him in. He has mentioned this tyrant Dammekos and now a sister. What are they like? In turn, tell him of Weynan, the mother and brother you never knew, Jinhai and the Brotherhood, all of your nieces and nephews, and of course, your beloved Kanzeon.
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>>5054278
So when are getting Arianka x Russ fanfiction?
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>>5054303
Same time she learns of Vostroya and we get her gently femdomming a young firstborn
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>>5054297
Mari sounds like a good match to offset Perturabo's bipolar/mercurial nature, if she is as decisive and enduring as her actions suggest.
>Dorn teasing Pert about his artificial girlfriend


Dandan can shack up with the ressurected Philotes with the monk gestalt machine spirit.
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>>5054355
Given how butt-hurt Pert was when somebody insisted they were better than him at somebody, I'd imagine he'd be apocalyptically mad if he got teased about his AI shipfu.
I'm talking Angron watching his slave army get slaughtered from orbit levels of mad.
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>>5054355
>Dandan can shack up with the ressurected Philotes with the monk gestalt machine spirit.
Woe be to any foe who encounters Dandan behind the helm of a DAoT ship. Even if it's from the ass end of the DAoT and a colony ship. God, she's going to go into a coma if she sees a titan in action...
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>>5054360
>Woe be to any foe who encounters Dandan behind the helm of a DAoT ship. Even if it's from the ass end of the DAoT and a colony ship. God, she's going to go into a coma if she sees a titan in action...
An ass end of the DAoT colony ship is insanely advanced. I remember hearing about that short story with a DAoT ship some chaos marine found.

Shit was wack as fuck
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>>5054363
>An ass end of the DAoT colony ship is insanely advanced.
I'd never diminish our wife and sisters-in-law (and future daughters).
>I remember hearing about that short story with a DAoT ship some chaos marine found. Shit was wack as fuck
Which story was that? I feel like the sentient DAoT ship is a pretty beloved plot device among BL writers. The Speranza, Blade of Infinity, and Spirit of Eternity all come to mind. Wonder how the wife'll get on with them if we ever cross paths.
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>>5054376
I don't remember hte name only that it gave him insanely advanced armor and had a bridge of light and what not in it.

there's also that one short story of a DAoT ship that lured a imperium group into them and then the AI in it hijacked the mechanius member and then used it to tell them how it was going to kill them all horrifically for the imperium torturing and killing it's captain after he came to warn them what he had seen of chaos and their plans.
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>>5054379
Theres also the one Ad-mech story of the Ark Mech ship's AI finally deciding to stop letting some Magos poke around, Overtook him and the guy realized they have STC's inside of them and a fuck ton of other things that are NEVER actually actived because the 'machine spirit' won't risk humanity being retarded or some shit again.

It however flex'ed its might, Wiped his brain and he was hailed a good ship captain or w.e.
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>>5054380
That thing wasn't actually a machine spirit. It was something else cause it apparently had many names like Akasha and what not.
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>>5054379
>there's also that one short story of a DAoT ship that lured a imperium group into them and then the AI in it hijacked the mechanius member and then used it to tell them how it was going to kill them all horrifically for the imperium torturing and killing it's captain after he came to warn them what he had seen of chaos and their plans.
The Death of Integrity by Guy Haley, the Spirit of Eternity was the ship. Should be part of a space hulk at this point in the canon.
>>5054380
That's the Speranza from the Forge of Mars series by McNeill. Shot at a pursuing Eldar cruiser with a black hole canon, the Eldar dodged it by the skin of their teeth, so the Speranza used another weapon to send the ship back in time into the path of the black hole. The STC it has held all of the compiled knowledge of the Men of Gold and their ancestors, who are presumably Golden Age humanity.
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>>5054385
A Machine spirit is an AI, Just bound. I'll stab you on this.

>>5054386
Ah thank you anon.
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>>5054387
>>>5054385 (You)
>A Machine spirit is an AI, Just bound. I'll stab you on this.
no I mean later on in the series it's revealed that it's not actually some ai but something else.
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Macador peered into the churning chaos of the warp and directed his mind as if it were a vessel across the vast gulf of the Cosmos until at last he found his minds eye in a golden tinted safe harbour among the eternal storm. The Sigillite took a moment to regain his bearings before he focused again looking upon the mindscape of the missing Second Son.

It was peaceful, a tranquil place of natural beauty, carved pagodas and simplistic bridges dot a masterfully crafted garden itself nestled within the opening of an untamed forest. Gentle streams flowed under a gentle silver light emanating from a faux moon and flowers swayed in a phantom breeze. The Emperor's second in command looked about his own skill leaving him invisible for the moment to the Primarch even as the image of the Giant sat in peaceful meditation atop a flat stone ever the image of serenity.

This was not what he was made for? His design was to be logical, analytic and mathematical in nature? What could have occurred to change him so? He had to know and so he focused upon the tender of this garden looking deeper. This Lieren did not respond when he was examined closer but Malcador expected the mindscape to at least change to show some deeper truth, with a sigh he turned to leave deciding to continue another day. Yet when he turned he felt a crunch under his foot and a stab of pain?

He looked down and beheld a flower he had per chance stepped upon but now looking at it a grim truth dawned on him; the Flower was metal and it's head a cog. He slowly turned his gaze to the paradise he had at first beheld and his blood for but a moment ran cold.

The verdant grass beneath him was planted upon a field of bones, fertilised by these dead. The pagodas were not painted the bore the marks of fire damage? In those gentle rivers bodies began to appear and drifted away from these golden shores into the warp beyond the Moon's light.

As if responding to his notice a storm began to form, the moon was hidden behind clouds and it began to rain, thunder clapping in the sky. But from that thunder he saw into the treeline and the boundaries of this land, he saw a legion of men all swaying in a cold biting wind with each flash of light! The waters were turning cold and to ice, the golden glow became blazing fires about the place.

He turned to look upon Lieren again but this time a different figure was in his sight; a monster in the shape of a man, a noose in one hand and a guandao in the other. The gentle face was gone and now the form of a snarling tusked beast with eyes of fire looked for the interloper within their owners mind.

Slowly the figure stood in the rain and blood washed off of his form turning the flat stone from ivory to red. He could hear something more now, looking about the dead were singing a song? A Melody dedicated tot heir executioner even as they smiled.
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I like the idea that Lieren's mindscape is actually a hellscape
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>>5054438
The only thing I would change is to remove the bodies on the river, Lieren is a hangman, not a butcher.
I doubt he would let such an image represent his soul after he saw something like it in the Yin palace.
Maybe instead, the river is made out of golden fire, and the pagodas aren't painted, but are actually null denocement charms/passages of the journey written all over.
But it's perfect otherwise.
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>>5054438
And the dead are singing 'King Golden Eyes'
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>>5053980
>Mention how Perturabo's work reminds you of your own! Truly if you had landed together as twins upon Shangrala, the spread of prosperity would have been much quicker and easily achieved!
>Discuss the ones who found him and took him in. He has mentioned this tyrant Dammekos and now a sister. What are they like? In turn, tell him of Weynan, the mother and brother you never knew, Jinhai and the Brotherhood, all of your nieces and nephews, and of course, your beloved Kanzeon.
>TALK ABOUT THE EYE BEFORE PERTY POPS A BLOOD VESSEL!
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>>5053980
>Mention how Perturabo's work reminds you of your own! Truly if you had landed together as twins upon Shangrala, the spread of prosperity would have been much quicker and easily achieved!
>Discuss the ones who found him and took him in. He has mentioned this tyrant Dammekos and now a sister. What are they like? In turn, tell him of Weynan, the mother and brother you never knew, Jinhai and the Brotherhood, all of your nieces and nephews, and of course, your beloved Kanzeon.
>TALK ABOUT THE EYE BEFORE PERTY POPS A BLOOD VESSEL!

Not talking about the eye now is now bad
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>>5054621
>>Mention how Perturabo's work reminds you of your own! Truly if you had landed together as twins upon Shangrala, the spread of prosperity would have been much quicker and easily achieved!
>>Discuss the ones who found him and took him in. He has mentioned this tyrant Dammekos and now a sister. What are they like? In turn, tell him of Weynan, the mother and brother you never knew, Jinhai and the Brotherhood, all of your nieces and nephews, and of course, your beloved Kanzeon.
>>TALK ABOUT THE EYE BEFORE PERTY POPS A BLOOD VESSEL!
yeah, I can agree with that.
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I hope Malal counts the eye votes as for Kanzeon, because it could divide the votes and make it not pass.
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>>5054692
it totally will make it not pass cause one dude was to stupid to not use the Kanzeon vote.
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>>5054715
I'm not going to count the votes just to make sure my paranoia is warranted.
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>>5054715
The eye was suggested before the kanzeon one, so wouldnt it be the other way around?
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>>5054761
The default vote of kanzeon talking about the eye anon.
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>>5054773
Hopefully Malal is nice and doesn’t let overly panicking idiots fuck us
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>>5054825
He has been very based so far, and done similar fusion of intent before. Still, my paranoia demands me to panic.
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I've lost hold of the current conversation and topic. What's going on?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L84IScxLjTE
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>>5054873
we are waiting for malal to count the votes
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Calling the vote now.

Mention how Perturabo's work reminds you of your own! Truly if you had landed together as twins upon Shangrala, the spread of prosperity would have been much quicker and easily achieved!:11

Discuss the ones who found him and took him in. He has mentioned this tyrant Dammekos and now a sister. What are they like? In turn, tell him of Weynan, the mother and brother you never knew, Jinhai and the Brotherhood, all of your nieces and nephews, and of course, your beloved Kanzeon:14

Admit that no has ever tried to assassinate you, perhaps because you had any who were wicked and bold enough to do so hanged with the rest of their contemptible kinsmen and peers.:3
-No one has been crazy enough to try assassinating me...etc: 1

Turn the conversation's topic towards the terrible Eye: 16
-Have Kanzeon, who is more knowledgeable, to lead the discussion, and introduce her to Perturabo: 11
--Admit that you cannot speak about the eye due to your promise+ Subvert that promise by introducing him to your wife.: 1
--make sure Kanzeon doesn't talk Chaos, her attracting the Emperor's ire would be a terrible situation: 4

Talk to him about the subject that he is most obviously interested in, his passion for architecture: 1

Total votes:21

Alright, so Lieren ask about those who found perturabo and mention his own family and use that as a lead in to introduce Kanzeon and turn the conversation towards the eye of terror.

Writing now

>>5054438
>>5054438
Excellent write up anon. Left a very vivid image in my minds eye, and I liked the prose!
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>>5054873
House as Rogal Dorn is fucking hillarious.

I'm not sure who Superman was meant to be, I think it was Horus
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"What of those who found you after your arrival to Olympia? Those who brought you into their society?" You ask curiously, Perturabo's expression sours, not with annoyance or irritation, but rather boredom and disinterest. His deeply set eyes slowly narrowed and then closed.

"I was discovered by no one, for the first years of my life I was alone, I brought myself into society and learned its way, with such ease it could scarcely be called an effort" He answers, showing no sign of resentment or envy born by drawing a comparison between his "infantile" years and your own. Its curious, but he isn't at all bothered by the fact he had to find and make his own way in the world, in fact there's a certain well hidden pride that he is self raised and independent of such familial ties, adoptive as they may be.

"Or do you wish me to describe my benefactor and adoptive family?" Perturabo asks with a laugh that lasts for a single, breathless chuckle

"They took you into their home and family did they not? That will satisfy my curiosity well, I believe" You say with a smile "Even if they were not in your life since its earliest moments"

"Dammekos, like all tyrants of Olympia or its men in general, is paranoid and ambitious, but does not have the natural talent or intellect to reach the power of which he dreams and yearns for. I am his spear, forged to mercilessly and efficiently end his rivals. Though he wastes my talents and inventions, concerned only with war and the acclamation of influence and power Dammekos" Perturabo says after a long side, pitching the bridge of his nose tightly "He endlessly seeks to curry my favor, perhaps expecting me to break the oath we made when I accepted his patronage, a reasonable fear if my loyalty was not as unbreakable as iron. I gave my word, and unless he threatens my life directly, I shall not break the deal we made in my youth"

The air between the two of you, though it is imaginary, becomes awkwardly and uncomfortably stiff as Perturabo locks his gaze with your own, apathy and disdain seeping from his every pore as he describe his adoptive family.

"His eldest natural born son, Herakon, is a greater fool than his sire. Hopelessly ambitious and treacherous, his every word and deed seethes with jealously over my accomplishments, intellect, victories and innovations. He lacks any talent, skill or worthwhile knowledge" He continues on, voice deepening as the ambient temperature fell by several degrees as if his breath carried the chill of the harshest of winters "He is a witless, guileless imbecile. Were he to succeed Dammekos as a tyrant, he would be dead and buried before the celebratory feast was drawn to a close. I avoid him to avoid unnecessary conflict, though he is far beneath me in both status and capability, and too dull minded to plot against me. If Olympia is fortunate, he will drink himself to death before he achieves any great status or influence upon her"
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>>5055071

You glance around, feeling as if you are sinking into a vast sea, suddenly unable to swim or do anything besides tread water and gasp for air. This is the most Perturabo has spoken since you introduced yourself to him, and all he is doing is judging and demeaning those who should be the closest to him. No wonder his expression is so dour! He is host to a great quantity of venom, enough to fell any man or beast!

"Andos, is similarly, unfit to inherit his father's position. His heart is weak, gentle. He does not have the spine to rule a brothel let alone a city and certainly not a nation or unified empire" Perturabo huffs, shuddering as he places a hand upon his brow, seething with contempt "He lacks conviction and will. Whereas Herako is overly ambitious, Andos has no ambition. He is content to wile away his days in his workshop, creating art rather than ruling. A respectable choice, if he were not so outspoken of his artistic vision and blind to when beauty impedes efficiency! But, I do not abhor or detest Andos, he is simply, irksome in his groveling and insipid manner and his ceaseless attempts at attaining my favor. The greatest compliment I can give Andos, is he will leave a legacy unlike his elder brother, who shall be forgotten soon after his passing"

Perturabo adjusts his posture and crosses his arm, tapping a foot as you begin to raise your hand to change the topic to cease you brother's ceaseless discharge of venomous criticism and scornful observations but his contempt returns in full force before you can interrupt its surging flow. You almost feel as if you are standing before a furnace or kiln! Weighed down by the heat of Perturabo's disdain for those who name him son or brother! He is in desperate need of a well spoken therapist! Or at least acquaintances or companions of which he can find no glaring, fatal flaw in character or ability.

"Though, whether Andos' works are praised or mocked by later generations remains to be seen" Perturabo mirthfully mocks, flipping his wrist before shaking his head "Personally I find him to be woefully lacking in many of the technical aspects of carving, painting and wordsmithing, to say nothing of his floundering attempts at song or dance. But, there is hope for him to produce something of value before he expires if nothing else"

You brace yourself as if guarding against the blow of a devil, dreading what vitriol and scathing remarks perturabo has prepared for the youngest of his adoptive siblings, his sister. Readying yourself to be struck by your brother's seemingly infinite cache of insults and demeaning description of his kinsmen, you instead are met with an almost serene silence.

Opening your eyes you see Perturabo, smiling? An alien expression upon his features if your short encounter with your second brother has taught to you even an inkling of his personality.
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>>5055073

"Ahhh, dear Calliphone, even the most well spoken and verbose of poets cannot hope to capture even a sliver of her brilliance. If I had not ran genetic tests myself proving her parentage, I would assume Dammekos was cuckholded by a now dead scholar" Perturabo chuckles happily, clearly proud of his last sibling and lauding her with praises "For how could a man like the tyrant of Lochos produce such an intelligent daughter? It is, as if a swan had hatched from a worms burrow. A shamefully oft ignored genius, poor Calliphone is the only child of Dammeko's worthy of praise and perhaps my only true friend. And yet, the close minded society of Olympia, will not allow her to inherit his position"

His eyes flared with a deep seated loathing

"A position even my so called father realizes she alone is worthy and capable of inheriting!" He raged, reducing his desk to a cloud of dust and splinters with a singular backhanded strike of his hand, scattering his documents and brilliant schematics across the floor and air of his study "Of all of the court, of all of Olympia, her company is the only one I enjoy rather than suffer and tolerate. And how shall she be remembered? A footnote if the chroniclers are generous. A travesty, an insult, against one of the most brilliant minds to grace this besotted rock!"

Perturabo sighs through his nose and shakes his head, filled with rage and disgust before he remembers you presence

"I suppose it is only fair I hear of your relations, brother" He says, relaxing as his voice gradually bleeds away the passionate emotions it had once shouted in your direction "I am interested to know what your circumstances are like, compared to my own"

"I emerged before a village that was once so insignificant it was not graced with a name, and was known as Nothing. Before my arrival, it was devastated by famine and the crashing of the mechanical egg from which I hatched only furthered the suffering of her people" You explain, feeling as if you have just been allowed a single mouthful of fresh air after a day of toiling at a forge "I wept for the pain my decent partially caused, and approached them in the first winter of my life to teach them how to rebuild and survive their tragic circumstances"

"How generous, many would have simply allowed nature to take its course. Surely the nobility of Olympia would declare you a fool for making such a decision, carry on" Perturabo observes, as he collects the papers he had scattered in his offended fit concerning his adoptive sister's future

"The chief of the village, was an old man named Wenyan, who took me and raised me as his second son, his wife and natural son had been lost in the chaos of my landing, and he showered me with wisdom and affection in the first year of my life and every year since. I have become the man that I am, in no small part due to Wenyan's guidance' You explain, watching your brother piece back together his workshop

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>>5055074

with much haste and efficiency.

"I owe him everything, for he taught me to be human, more than anyone else, more than any experience or introspection" You explain, nodding your head slightly "From the village youths, I trained hunters, who I count as my brothers and closest friends. They became excellent warriors, and peerless scouts and I am proud to name myself their teacher and companion. Feng, Liang, Jiang, Shaved head Wei, Half jaw Hu, The Solemn Dong...so many courageous, valiant men, but they are not the only brotherhood of warriors I trained"

Perturabo grunts to show he is still paying attention.

"Though the lines between the Brothers of the Panther and the former members of my personal guard often blur, I retain the distinction. Handpicked, I chose those of virtuous character and good morals. Fat Chen, the Late Small Chen, Red faced Wei, Bai, Xin, all worthy of my respect and friendship" You continue on merrily "Though, none of them, and none of the brothers besides Feng, are as dear to me and stand so near to my shoulders as Noble Jinhai! A man of curious talent, keen observation, and boundless potential! He has been at my side for years, and at the end the rebellion I began, was crowned king and later emperor. Some whisper and mock him for his absent mind behind his back, but all respect his wisdom, skill as a general, warrior and ruler, and tell tales of his imaginative tactics and approach to all aspects of life"

"Already, I realize the difference between our circumstances and host societies, particularly that yours appears to have a limited selection of names" Perturabo muses, brushing dust and ink from his thumb with a micro fiber towel "Please, go on, this is all very fascinating"

"Ah! and then there's my many adoptive children, and honorary nieces and nephews, the last children of a subspecies of man that was wiped out for their...degenerate habits, but I spared the innocent youths as they held no accountability for their parents crimes and could be raised and taught to live virtuous and civilized lives" You explain, causing perturabo to pause

"You do not fear they'll seek revenge for the slaughter of their people, and what do you mean by subspecies?" Perturabo asks, almost sounding worried

You just shake your head

"They're well behaved, gentle mannered children. The older of them, who number two hundred and eighty five, feel immense shame and guilt for their misdeeds and abomination committed by their fathers, who had become cannabalistic, and abusive animals" You state with utmost certainty of the truthfulness of your words "In fact, the eldest of the boys and girls, Avinash and Ananya are renowned for their etiquette and intellect,despite their young age and at times mischievous games. And to answer your question, they are a stable, self propagating mutation of humanity that shows some qualities and appearances with large felines, namely tigers if Olympia has them"
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"some even have an extra set of arms like all cats possess"

Perturabo looks at you as if you yourself have grown an auxiliary pair of arms.

"but yes, I am confident they will continue to integrate into society and prosper within it. Children are shaped by their guardians and teachers after all!" You exclaim proudly

"It is fortunate these tiger men lived upon Shangrala rather than Olympia" Perturabo mutters "no tyrant or village would be so accepting and forgiving as you had been, and, did I hear correctly, that you stated cats upon your world have six limbs?!"

"Yes, along with tassels, beards and two sets of eyes, a trait which I have not see in any of my wards now that I think of it" You say blithely as Perturabo narrows his eyes further, so much so that you expect them to simply disappear

"Of course, of course" He replies dully "It was foolish of me to ask, are you going to describe this....extensive family of yours? or would doing so expend the mental energy allowing us to converse as we are? Can you run out such psychic stamina? Questions for a later date, I suppose"

"There's no need, you will meet them yourself one day and can come to your own conclusion of their character and talents" You reply with a quick bow of your head "There is only one other member of my, vast family, to be spoken of, or rather introduced"

"Saving the one you cherish above all others for last?" Perturabo comes very close to correctly guessing, as you love Wenyan, Feng, Guozhi and Jinhai as much as you love her, just in different ways.

"His wife" Kanzeon answers, causing Perturabo to jump slightly from shock "Allow me to introduce myself, I am your brother's partner, we share a love without definition, such that statements and physical shows of affection are pointless. We are, to put it poetically, of one soul. Two parts of the same whole, I own him and he owns me. Our love is without equal or comparison. Sorry for interrupting so suddenly"

"Wife?" Perturabo sputters "You took a wife? I believed mys...us to be entirely devoid of such desires"

You shrug your shoulder

"Men need love as flowers need water, my existence is based on love, love for my fellow men, for humanity, for prosperity" You explain

"Lust doesn't factor into our bond, its purely forged of love and mutual respect and admiration. We are drawn together, because we have come to love each other as much as we love humanity. As I said earlier, this bond is unconditional, sacrificial, unmarred by instinctual urges, such as a drive to breed or need to companionship. It is, hard to explain' Kanzeon says quietly, bashfully but not ashamed "Lieren, could describe it better, his culture is seemingly naturally poetic"

"There is no need, I understand enough to have context" Perturabo answers "So is she a psyker as well? or can you transmit another consciousness across the stars? And you said our brother and father are more psionically powerful than you? How frighteningly potent they must be"
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>>5055077

"Well" Kanzeon begins

"Of a different sort, I suppose" You answer, as you are not certain of the answer yourself and Kanzeon can explain it later without exposing the truth of her existence unwillingly "But, I am certain she is more informed of the terrible eye, and far more knowledgeable of its history and existence than myself. And her personal feelings on the matter should provide entertainment to accompany her informative answers to your curiosity"

Perturabo smiles, as you look at him and can feel a singular thought resonate through his being as he smiles victoriously. "At last".

"So how shall I begin, and what do you want to know?" Kanzeon asks politely

"Everything" Perturabo nearly snarls with manic eyes

"Except chaos of course, unless you think your father would be...understanding" Kanzeon asks in your mind, so perturabo cannot over hear her.

What do you do, Lieren?

>Keep Sie Nie/ Slaanesh/ She who thirsts and the reality of wicked spirits hidden, as they are not necessary for Perturabo to understand

>Well Perturabo did say everything, father would understand, surely. After all he's been haunted by the terrible eye all of his life

>Excuse yourself and contact the emperor of mankind to ask if the situation is dire enough to allow this breech of secrecy

>Ask kanzeon if she's comfortable with what she is being known by your brother

>Write in

I had a lot of fun writing Perturabo roasting his family, if you couldn't tell
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>>5055079
>Keep Sie Nie/ Slaanesh/ She who thirsts and the reality of wicked spirits hidden, as they are not necessary for Perturabo to understand
>But let her tell that the same barbarians who separtaed us are involved with the eye.
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>>5055079
>Write in
"Brother would you rather we explain what we can unto you or would you rather i try and contact our Maker once again that he might more effectively?"

So depending on his reaction either
>Keep Sie Nie/ Slaanesh/ She who thirsts and the reality of wicked spirits hidden, as they are not necessary for Perturabo to understand
or [not both]
>Excuse yourself and contact the emperor of mankind to ask if the situation is dire enough to allow this breech of secrecy

>Write in
When the call ends regardless hug the Shipfu
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>>5055079
Supporting >>5055097
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>>5055079
>Keep Sie Nie/ Slaanesh/ She who thirsts and the reality of wicked spirits hidden, as they are not necessary for Perturabo to understand
>Excuse yourself and contact the emperor of mankind to ask if the situation is dire enough to allow this breech of secrecy
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>>5055079
>Keep Sie Nie/ Slaanesh/ She who thirsts and the reality of wicked spirits hidden, as they are not necessary for Perturabo to understand
>Excuse yourself and contact the emperor of mankind to ask if the situation is dire enough to allow this breech of secrecy
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If we excuse ourselves right now would pert put 2 and 2 together and realize that it's related to our promise, even if the emperor says no?
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>>5055079
I will support >>5055097
but if we can't then this guy had a good idea >>5055092 with permitting to call them barbarians.

And lieren's pain at such fifial dis-piety is amusing.
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>>5055079
>>5055079
>Keep Sie Nie/ Slaanesh/ She who thirsts and the reality of wicked spirits hidden, as they are not necessary for Perturabo to understand
>Excuse yourself and contact the emperor of mankind to ask if the situation is dire enough to allow this breech of secrecy

Also backing this >>5055097 write in
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>>5055097
supporting
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>>5055079
>Keep Sie Nie/ Slaanesh/ She who thirsts and the reality of wicked spirits hidden, as they are not necessary for Perturabo to understand
>Ask kanzeon if she's comfortable with what she is being known by your brother
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>>5055097
Supporting the write-in as well. We must embrace Kanzeon.
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>>5055116
Probably, he's a clever boy.
But not our fault.
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>>5055097
+1
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>>5055079
>Keep Sie Nie/ Slaanesh/ She who thirsts and the reality of wicked spirits hidden, as they are not necessary for Perturabo to understand
>But let her tell that the same barbarians who separated us are involved with the eye.
Dad is straight up going to say no, plus he might barge straight in and trigger the fuck out of Pert without first having Lieren go over this entire meeting with Pert and his character.
Pert is just getting his Autism inflamed by very subtle constant chaos poking, if anything Big E will tell Lieren to give Pert the minimum amount of meditative/psyker training that will let him deflect the eyes effects so his autism at least has the chance to go into remission.
When it comes to what Kanzeon is either we commit to being the ones who bring it up with Dad as early as possible to run damage control in order to defuse any potential long term bombs from telling others or we keep it as secret as we can because unless we control the reveal it will fuck over team prosperity.
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>>5055097
>Keep Sie Nie/ Slaanesh/ She who thirsts and the reality of wicked spirits hidden, as they are not necessary for Perturabo to understand
>But let her tell that the same barbarians who separated us are involved with the eye.

No emps pls he won't say yes. I mean lieren was literally fighting all the chaos gods and he still tried to deny it
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>>5055097
+1
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I can feel it. Perturabon is going to uplift his waifu to make her immortal. Or else he shall start a school in her memory. One where he shall dedicate to the uplift of society and the people he finds irksome.

Because while one can be worthless. That too can be fixed.
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>>5055178
Calliphone can't be Pert's waifu, she is his adopted sister. Unless Pert is not only an autist but also a weeb.

In canon she refused all age extending tech, so she might not want immortality.
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>>5055079
>>Excuse yourself and contact the emperor of mankind to ask if the situation is dire enough to allow this breech of secrecy
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>>5055079
>Keep Sie Nie/ Slaanesh/ She who thirsts and the reality of wicked spirits hidden, as they are not necessary for Perturabo to understand
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>>5055079
>>Keep Sie Nie/ Slaanesh/ She who thirsts and the reality of wicked spirits hidden, as they are not necessary for Perturabo to understand
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>>5055079
>Keep Sie Nie/ Slaanesh/ She who thirsts and the reality of wicked spirits hidden, as they are not necessary for Perturabo to understand
>But let her tell that the same barbarians who separtaed us are involved with the eye.
>When the call ends regardless hug the Shipfu

I really enjoyed reading that Malal.
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>>5055079
>>Keep Sie Nie/ Slaanesh/ She who thirsts and the reality of wicked spirits hidden, as they are not necessary for Perturabo to understand

>You almost feel as if you are standing before a furnace or kiln! Weighed down by the heat of Perturabo's disdain for those who name him son or brother! He is in desperate need of a well spoken therapist!
My sides, holy fuck.
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>>5055097
+1
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>>5055079
>>Well Perturabo did say everything, father would understand, surely. After all he's been haunted by the terrible eye all of his life
i just want to fuck with the system
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>>5055079
>Ask kanzeon if she's comfortable with what she is being known by your brother
>Excuse yourself and contact the emperor of mankind to ask if the situation is dire enough to allow this breech of secrecy
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>>5055079
> Well Perturabo did say everything, father would understand, surely. After all he's been haunted by the terrible eye all of his life
> Excuse yourself and contact the Emperor of Mankind to ask if the situation is dire enough to allow this breech of secrecy
Honesty is the best policy among brothers and all that jazz. Emps shouldn't fault Lieren too badly, since Pert has been suffering terribly under the constant scrutiny of the Eye. He deserves to know the truth, even if it's a danger.

Also, contact with big E should make it much easier for him to hone in on Pert and initiate a dream-conversation himself. Let him assuage Pert's fear and anger himself and maybe give him a chance to bond a little as he explains everything.

If Magnus can find Pert in astral projection, I think they could have a grand time sharing their respective knowledge; Pert has an insatiable curiosity not unlike Magnus, and I think having someone else to bounce ideas off of and debate various topics will be great for both of them.

>>5055183
> In canon she refused all age extending tech, so she might not want immortality.
Calliphone sounds like a real smart cookie. Baseline humanity just aren't built for prolonged existence, and accepting that he'll have to say goodbye to the most important person in his life might be a huge struggle for Perturbo.

I think it'll be good for him to hear some of the Journey, since it's founded on some pretty universal wisdom. Likewise, hearing the story of Small Chen, to show that Lieren is familiar with grieving the loss of someone near and dear to his heart(s).
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>>5055079
>Ask kanzeon if she's comfortable with what she is being known by your brother
Very important to ask.

>>5055097
support
beside that telling that this foes are the same barbarians that divided us, would be good. Also associate more negative words with them : disgusting, horrible, stupid, mad, decadent and so on. It should drive home the message, that this aren t "people/things" that can be trusted, reason or talk with.
As a plus we are also costantly offending them, which i am sure will not make the chaos gods seethe even more than usual ;)
It s good that we are given this option to Perturabo and that we are also asking the Emperor. Both should be happy about that, and it makes Lieren a trustworthy man.
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>>5055079
>Keep Sie Nie/ Slaanesh/ She who thirsts and the reality of wicked spirits hidden, as they are not necessary for Perturabo to understand
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>>5055079
>>Keep Sie Nie/ Slaanesh/ She who thirsts and the reality of wicked spirits hidden, as they are not necessary for Perturabo to understand
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>>5055079
>Keep Sie Nie/ Slaanesh/ She who thirsts and the reality of wicked spirits hidden, as they are not necessary for Perturabo to understand
>But let her tell that the same barbarians who separated us are involved with the eye.
>Ask kanzeon if she's comfortable with what she is being known by your brother
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>>5055079
> Well Perturabo did say everything
> Excuse yourself

The emperor would probably like to know about Perturabo.
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>>5055097
Going with this
+1
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>>5055079
>>Keep Sie Nie/ Slaanesh/ She who thirsts and the reality of wicked spirits hidden, as they are not necessary for Perturabo to understand
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So what is the plan to deal with Nityah Sinha?
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>>5056404
Nuke him.
More serioulsy, probably try to bait him into overextending and than shotting him in the back.
Than rush to the capital and try to take down vishnu sister before she does sonething dumb.
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>>5056418
> probably try to bait him into overextending and than shotting him in the back.
That’s not going to work since he isn’t the type to fall for such tricks. He’s more likely to just ambush Jinhai when we aren’t around than to be leading the army.
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>>5056404
Plan I have is a preemptive assault as far into his land as we can, then when we face his armies head on, with their unrelenting waves of clone chaff we may be forced back. If we can't wipe the tide as it comes, then we fall back in the face of it and use traps and crap to whittle them down and crush them as we move forwards.

Crushing waves if you get the idea.
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>>5056433
I was really liking the teleportation switcharoo plan, but dragons won instead of an artifact.
So maybe we dress a dragon as jinhai and hope Nityah get eaten?
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>>5056443
Nityah is not the inferior of a dragon. Only of a Panther.
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>>5056444
How about a dragon panther?
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>>5056445
Literally, I don't know how the genetics of that would go.

Metaphorically as I had intended, No. Just No.
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>>5056451
Speaking of genetics, should we try to breed human like intelligence in dragons?
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>>5056456
This feels like it somthing that would backfire down the road for little to no benefit.
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>>5056459
How about cat or dog like intelligence, and make them naturally predisposed to being tamed instead?
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>>5056460
I feel like they already have less than human but greater than dog intelligence.
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>>5056464
If you really want to use Dragons for war then I would give them enough intelligence to understand speech and make them social creatures- like a talking dog.
Honestly, making another race is just asking for trouble and doesn't seem up Lieren's road unless they're like long-living creatures meant to protect and preserve wisdom.
Put a safety on them, like they really vibe with humans or something.
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>>5055079
> Excuse yourself
Make this a Skype call and bring Dad or Malcador into the conversation?
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>>5056556
Malacor didn't make too good a first impression on Lieren, so probably shouldn't be the one called upon.
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>>5056404
In terms of Nitya himself, we could try to weaken him by disabling his augments with an EMP and then try to crush him under their now-useless weight with a grav weapon. If that doesn't work, we just duke it out.
In terms of the horrifying DAoT clone army he has, we need to use ambushes, stealth, and range. The latter is particularly important, denying them melee combat will weaken any blessing they have. Bonus points if we use something that'll cauterize their wounds. Our psykers will also be an advantage over them, so long as they can be protected. We should also try to force them either into chokepoints (natural or artificial) or to bleed themselves against our xbawks-hueg wall. If we have time to modify it, adding false outer walls, disguised killing zones zones, pitfalls disguised as weaknesses,, all that fun stuff. Hell, we could build false villages outside the wall and fill them with explosives for them to blindly try to reave. But they'll be able to replace their losses until we either disable Avalokiteśvara's gestation halls or cleanse her of her budding corruption, so that'll be higher on the docket.
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>>5056404
I imagine that the key to beating him is everything but open combat.
Use hit-and-run tactics to whittle his forces, ambush his supply lines to make them starve and sabotage his ships/vehicles.
If we do that and refuse to give him a long, messy battle of attrition that he would win because cloning, then his army will eventually bleed it's fighting strength dry.
Combine that with a tactical strike on Nitya's capital/Avalokiteśvara to gimp his production and things should go fairly smoothly. Kanzeon should make attacking his backline child's play.

>>5056568
Also pretty much everything this anon said.
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>>5056579
That's true, we also need to make their army take large loses as early as possible and blitzkrieg their territory before new batches get ready.
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All yall wanting to bother the Emps, I hope he goes "Nigga I'm busy" then hangs up
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>>5056627
>"You're a grown ass man, deal with your own problems."
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>>5056627
"It's the third time this week Lieren, I know that calling your parents is good and all, but everything has limits"
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>>5056495
>>5056464
>>5056460
I just wish we had an accurate intelligence scale so we could decide.
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>>5056579
Dont forget he has air superiority.

So we need to drop that shit fast. Scanner blockers maybe
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>>5056646
Wasn't the point of unearthing Kanzeon before we went to war to remove their air superiority?
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>>5055079
>>Keep Sie Nie/ Slaanesh/ She who thirsts and the reality of wicked spirits hidden, as they are not necessary for Perturabo to understand
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we have 2 options on how to fight the wanna be cyborg Genghis Khan and the artificial stupidity

1) hit and run tactis and air and orbital superiority

Or

2) we follow the tactics of this man
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>>5056646
Unless I'm missing something, he really doesn't.
He certainly has an air presence we can't ignore, and if it was just Long-Jia craft we had, he would have a big advantage.
But we kinda have a high tech, giant fuckoff space ship that he doesn't.
Of course, assuming that Kanzeon is invulnerable or unstoppable when Nitya got his ships from her sister is not wise, but I refuse to believe she doesn't vastly outclass anything he has. At worst, its roughly even in the air, but its much more likely that Kanzeon will just dominate the air wherever she appears.
The only issue we have is that there is only one of her, so if we fight in multiple places at once, Nitya will have air superiority somewhere.

I think trying to steal ships could be a worthwhile endeavour, or at least sabotage them. Maybe Kanzeon could hack them remotely?
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>>5056693
Pic very much related
>>5056702
Mari is pretty much entirely intact. Engines, weapons, manufactories, everything. If we think the tide is turning too much in the Vishnu's favor, we should make a primitive assault drill with help from our pod, dig down there, sort out the reason she self-quarantined, and reap the rewards of having another DAoT ship on our side. If we have the time and resources to do so, which I doubt, we could also try to repair Al-Uzza.

Actually, speaking of the Sisters, were Kuan Im and Kanzeon's crew the people who became the Yan or just one? Did Kuan Im's become the nobles while Kanzeon's became the peasants? Is there a secret Japan-expy nation of Kanzeon's crew's descendants since her name is Japanese and not Chinese/Yan like Kuan Im? Is there an answer to all this that I missed because I didn't read closely enough? Please Malal, this has been in the back of my mind for a while.
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>>5056710
Kuam-Im became the Yan, Kanzeon crew became mutant worshippers of Tzeentch under the mountain and the founder hero of the Yan dynasty killed them.
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>>5056659
It was to help with that, yes.

But as the other anon picked up. We have one super ship, while they have a fleet of lesser ships, and they can spread out.
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>>5056719
we hold the oribitals. We basically win unless they can make something capable of firing into space.
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>>5056710
i feel like this is going to happen at some point in the war
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>>5056714
Much obliged, anon. Fitting that we're raising their descendants with her then.
>>5056723
>Turn of the tide of the rebellion against Yan
Makes me think of what an uprising led by Cui-raised Lieren would've looked like.
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>>5056746
The tigermen aren't descended from them, they are mutated vishnu that got tricked by the same deamon and mutated as well. Her people are likely all dead, unless some fled the mountain before the point of no return, but those were probably few in number and just integrated with other locals.
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>>5056750
Guzohi's sect was made of people that remembered that. So probably some got away?
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>>5056750
Actually, Guonzhi seems to remember Kanzeon calls her mother. Not only that, but he said that the unseen master specifically was an enemy of the dai monks and responsible for their fall.
The order may be the descendents of Kanzeon that fled.
Which means that if we ressurect other ships using their souls, they will be kanzeon's children even in spirit[/spirit]
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>>5056633
Dad. Stop neglecting your kids. It's time to give Peturabo "the talk". It's your duty as a single parent!
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Figures my internet would come back after two days ONLY when I am much too tired to write an update. Sorry for the long wait, I'll count the vote and write the update when I wake up. The machine spirits are fickle and they are cruel.

Sorry the usual schedule/ rhythm has been unreliable lately. If it isn't internet problems, its PC problems.

But when I wake, Omnissiah willing, I will call the vote and post the late update. I'm really sorry guys

>>5056934
Don't worry, I won't just flake and vanish. That'd be incredibly gay, and I'm have a jolly old time writing this

The only problem is I have no way of warning you guys when there will be a delay, since I am unable to circumvent the dark malice of the abominable intelligences via phoneposting, as my provider's mobile data is range banned. And nothing in town has free wifi anymore

It sucks
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>>5057001
Turns out being Malal is to suffer.
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>>5057001
Are you able to use your phone data to give a heads up?
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>>5057001
Is it possible to send you phone data?
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>>5057093
>>5057122
Malal just said his phone is range banned.
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>>5057093
>>5057122
There is no way to do that. Range ban is banning your mobile data range only. he can still use wifi.
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>>5057001
>I'm really sorry guys
Don't worry about it boss, you've been doing an update near enough to every day without an intentional break since the quest's inception. We can wait.
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Calling the vote now. Sorry again for the long wait.

Keep Sie Nie/ Slaanesh/ She who thirsts and the reality of wicked spirits hidden, as they are not necessary for Perturabo to understand:25
-But let her tell that the same barbarians who separated us are involved with the eye.: 7

"Brother would you rather we explain what we can unto you or would you rather i try and contact our Maker once again that he might more effective":10

When the call ends regardless hug Kanzeon: 11

Well Perturabo did say everything, father would understand, surely. After all he's been haunted by the terrible eye all of his life:3

Excuse yourself and contact the emperor of mankind to ask if the situation is dire enough to allow this breech of secrecy:17

Ask kanzeon if she's comfortable with what she is being known by your brother: 4

Total votes: 33

However, since Keeping the secret and checking to see if you can reveal it are mutually exclusive

Lieren will tell Kanzeon to keep Sie Nie/ She who thirsts and the reality of wicked spirits hidden, as they are not necessary for perturabo to understand

Writing now
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>>5057315
inb4 Pert hates us for not telling the truth.
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>>5057355
tbf we did warn him we can't talk about everything
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>>5057355
As if it was going to end any other way with Perty.
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>>5057355
He knows we made an oath to Big E. He'll respect us for keeping our word, his own promise to Dammekos is proof he puts stock into that sort of thing. Besides, we can always tell Dad what his deal is later.
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"I only told Jinhai due the historical and continued interference of Malevolent forces upon Shangrala and their manipulation of her people. Every dynasty and Kingdom the proceeded Long-Jia, and evidence supports that those beyond her borders, have been corrupted by the temptations of wicked powers" You tell Kanzeon without speaking or changing your expression "It was a necessary breach to ensure the prosperity of the world and prevent it from descending once more into abomination and atrocity, but now equipped with far more devastating implements of war and cruelty?"

"And, from what little I've overheard of your conversation with your newly rediscovered brother, Olympia isn't infested with the parasites of the Empyrean" Kanzeon muses "Much like Prospero I'd say you drew the short straw between the three of your brothers, but that would ignore the fact you met and courted me,Lieren"

You resist the urge to smirk at your beloved's playfully smug attitude. It's good that she's recovered, especially as quickly as she has.

"Exactly, besides the presence of the terrible eye and the clear effects it has had on his psyche and character, Perturabo is in no way affected or in danger of meeting a wicked spirit, especially if his psionic potential remains dormant" You state, giving a mental nod of your head "it isn't necessary for him to know"

"Then I'll keep quiet about the aftereffects of the eldar's debauchery" Kanzeon says, her thoughts dripping venom before she speaks to Perturabo, the entire exchange between the two of you spanning only the time it took you to breath in "Well, the "eye" as you know it, is an open rift between material reality and the realm of the collective unconsciousness of all intelligent forms of life, a layer of existence dyed by emotions, thoughts and beliefs"

Perturabo inclines his head, clearly recording every word Kanzeon speaks to his memory, so it may never be forgotten or lost.

"Fascinating" Is all he says, but behind his eyes you can see his mind churning as his thoughts turn to the implications of what he is told "Doubtlessly this other plane is the source of much of mankind's superstition"

"That's more of a philosophical question, but in short, Mankind, while it has evolved the potential to birth active psykers of varying levels of potency and ability, and thus has a great impact upon the universes collective unconsciousness than some other species" Kanzeon continues on as if reading from a text book, while Perturabo silently absorbs every piece of knowledge she gives to him, clearly enjoying the lecture and the mysteries it still leaves for him to discover by his own intellect and study "However, none of them are important to the history of the "eye" as you know it. Oh certainly, there have been tragedies, atrocities and war that have upset the other realm, the Empyrean, but humanity has never damaged it. In fact no race perhaps those who have caused such catastrophe the memory of their existence has been lost"
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>>5057386

"Has ever caused such emotional turmoil or mental agony to tear a hole in reality, except of course that previous dominant species of the universe. The Eldar, or they prefer Aeldari but I don't care" Kanzeon continues on, unable to hide her personal contempt, but that is the language Perturabo speaks and knows "They, were a far more widespread and psionically active race, who could will stars to die and move planets. They had reached a pinnacle of society and advancement and in their arrogance believed they could step no further. So they turned inwards and became prideful, debaucherous, hedonistic, wasteful and vilely cruel. Orgies of violence and and actual orgies that spanned generations, consumption of drugs whose production alone required an atrocity to create, excesses beyond imagining! the pursuit of pleasure became the pursuit of pain. They languished in a carnal utopia built upon the suffering and torment of countless other life forms"

"The taste of wine doth dull when it is imbued continuously" Perturabo muses "these aliens must've dulled their senses from the over strain of their overindulgence, requiring a greater quantity and extremity of sensation to feel the rush of intoxication, pleasure or pain they once did. Must've been an evolutionary adaptation to preserve the mind from the stress of constant gratification"

"Oh it took generations, eons, but they are an unfortunately long lived species, the effect you've theorized happened countless times throughout a single lifetime of an eldar" Kanzeon nearly hisses "Oh how proud they were, to believe they were so mighty they could not fall through any folly of their own or any interference beyond what they would consider divine intervention"

"But they did fall, by a weakness they had rendered themselves blind to" Perturabo correctly guesses

"Yep, for a race that believed itself to be on the higher end of the intergalactic spectrum of intelligence, and thought itself to be the most civilized, cultured and technologically advance of all beings, they were idiots" Kanzeon says, as you feel her shudder with the contempt she still holds for the Aeldari of old and present "Supreme idiots! Absolute morons! They, more than any civilization before or after, studied the Empyrean and the use of their innate psionic abilities to the point both became so intermingled with their technology it couldn't function if they were suddenly sealed off or taken from them"

"And they failed to notice the effects their generation spanning debauchery and hedonism had upon the very foundation of their society?" Perturabo asks, his tone nearly as disdainful as Kanzeon's own

"YES! They made hunting the lower classes a widely accepted sport! Torture was an art form! They bred sapient species just to harvest their organs as delicacies or aphrodisiacs! It was an empire that ran upon atrocity and self indulgence!" Kanzeon rages
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>>5057389

"And only a minority of their once expansive race saw the signs of the storm whose seeds they had sown and cultivated over the eons."

"The Emotional energy of a star spanning empire, produced from all of its atrocities and excesses must truly have been a potent force if it were collected and condensed without a chance of natural release, like social reform or revolution" Perturabo quietly ponders as Kanzeon recomposes herself

"Yes, it was. And when the dam finally broke it wiped out most of their race, leaving them endangered and fading, and a not insignificant quadrant of the galaxy uninhabitable as it has been swallowed by the tear in reality that consumed them" Kanzeon states, her tone now cold but still hateful "And the ripples of their destruction brought the old civilization of mankind to its knees, when a tragedy that rendered most of space dead could not. Yet the eldar will mock mankind for the Folly of their creations revolting, while they nearly destroyed everything because despite living for centuries they had the libido and desires of a adolescents raised in a brothel"

"I see there's another lesson I'll need to pursue, or seek out myself" Perturabo laughs? Laughs!? that was unexpected "Do you know why I feel as though the eye is scrutinizing my every movement or thought? Is it some remnant of the Eldar's combined hubris"

"The energies of the Empyrean, affect unshielded mind in many ways. Some believe they see gods or angels if they stare into them, others become mad even if gradually exposed. Perhaps it is an inbuilt defense mechanism?" Kanzeon suggests "Lieren, I know, when exposed to the energies, experiences a phantom burning in his eyes and reflexively becomes enraged!"

"Meanwhile" You state, entering the conversation once again "Our Brother Magnus has no ill effects, and becomes more curious than anything else when he encounters anything steeped in the energies of the Great Sea, as his culture calls it. But that could be a simple"

"Societal adaptation" Perturabo states, eyes widening as a revelation dawns upon his mind "Your eyes allow you to realize the dangers inherent in such destructive energies and instinctually drives you to destroy the source in self defense , while Magnus must come from a culture where psykerism is more commonly accepted, understood and utilized and thus has adaptive to the exposure of the Empyrean! And Olympia, no matter what station or power one holds, they are always being watched and judged by their rivals and allies, categorized based upon the use they would serve against or for their ambitions! It all makes sense now! If the Terrible Eye, as you refer to it brother, is a rift into the collective subconscious of all life, than it stands to reason it would expose those beneath its gaze or studying it to the localized collective unconsciousness of their world"
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>>5057390

"Oh Magnus is going to enjoy meeting you' You state with a smile, that theory is rather close to the truth, though Perturabo will hopefully never know why "and if two of three brothers as psykers"

"The third doubtlessly has potential to train the abilities or at least have a greater passive awareness to energies and forces he would otherwise be blind to!" Perturabo immediately infers "Which means, I was not being judged by the eye itself, it has no intelligence, but rather all of Olympia!"

Though, that was most certainly true if even a fraction of Perturabo's mistrust was warranted.

"This warrants further research and" Perturabo pauses, his expression souring "Someone's coming"

"I should take my leave then, so rumors do not spread of the great Perturabo talking to people only he can see" You say with a bow "I will contact you soon, and with more warning, I enjoyed this meeting"

"It was informative, hopefully we'll have more time to discuss the history of the eye and its effects on the wider galaxy in greater detail in the future" Perturabo says with a slight nod of his head "I will say , before you depart from my company, I favor your company over that of either of my adoptive brothers, though that is not a high bar to pass, admittedly"

You smirk

"I hope we can become closer, Brother" You state, as you take your leave

And find Kanzeon resting her head on your shoulder.

"You look exhausted" She states.

"Perturabo's judgmental nature is exhausting even when you are not the focus of his contempt" You say as you run your hands through her hair.

What do you do now, Lieren?

>Inform Magnus of Perturabo, so he may meet him on his own terms, and warn him of his...mercurial personality

>Ask Kanzeon if she thinks Perturabo is fond of you, as for once in your life, you are left uncertain of the feelings of another's heart!

>Return to Shangrala and show Kanzeon to the world, to show to her she will be accepted and loved by at least your people

>Realize, with the star charts Kanzeon has taken from the Aeldari raiders and those in her archives, you could easily find New Varro! And tell the families of the refugees of their survival

>write in
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>Realize, with the star charts Kanzeon has taken from the Aeldari raiders and those in her archives, you could easily find New Varro! And tell the families of the refugees of their survival
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>>5057391
>>Inform Magnus of Perturabo, so he may meet him on his own terms, and warn him of his...mercurial personality
>>Ask Kanzeon if she thinks Perturabo is fond of you, as for once in your life, you are left uncertain of the feelings of another's heart!

oh that was fun. I'm glad Perts having a good time.
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>>5057391
>>Ask Kanzeon if she thinks Perturabo is fond of you, as for once in your life, you are left uncertain of the feelings of another's heart!
>>Return to Shangrala and show Kanzeon to the world, to show to her she will be accepted and loved by at least your people
Gotta let all the new and restored animals out to play. Also, how big is her true body? Is she cruiser-size? Bigger?
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>>5057391

>Inform Magnus of Perturabo, so he may meet him on his own terms, and warn him of his...mercurial personality

>Realize, with the star charts Kanzeon has taken from the Aeldari raiders and those in her archives, you could easily find New Varro! And tell the families of the refugees of their survival
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>>5057391
>Inform Magnus of Perturabo, so he may meet him on his own terms, and warn him of his...mercurial personality
>Return to Shangrala and show Kanzeon to the world, to show to her she will be accepted and loved by at least your people
Magnus obviously needs to know, and Kanzeon will need to be "introduced" if she is to help us in the future without cause half of Long-Jia to shit their pants.
I would say we should take people back to New Varro later, when we don't have a war to worry about.

We gave Perturabo a good explanation, but I would definitely want to ask Emps for permission to tell the truth when we meet him again. This white lie will not hold up indefinitely.
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>>5057391
>Inform Magnus of Perturabo, so he may meet him on his own terms, and warn him of his...mercurial personality
>Return to Shangrala and show Kanzeon to the world, to show to her she will be accepted and loved by at least your people
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>>5057391
>>>Ask Kanzeon if she thinks Perturabo is fond of you, as for once in your life, you are left uncertain of the feelings of another's heart!
>>>Return to Shangrala and show Kanzeon to the world, to show to her she will be accepted and loved by at least your people
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>Realize, with the star charts Kanzeon has taken from the Aeldari raiders and those in her archives, you could easily find New Varro! And tell the families of the refugees of their survival

>Inform Magnus of Perturabo, so he may meet him on his own terms, and warn him of his...mercurial personality

Let's start building our empire! By the time people start hearing about the realm of Ultramar they will already know our empire's name!
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>>5057410
no time anon we have a war to win
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>>5057391
>>Inform Magnus of Perturabo, so he may meet him on his own terms, and warn him of his...mercurial personality
>Return to Shangrala and show Kanzeon to the world, to show to her she will be accepted and loved by at least your people
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>>5057391
>Return to Shangrala and show Kanzeon to the world, to show to her she will be accepted and loved by at least your people
>Inform Magnus of Perturabo, so he may meet him on his own terms, and warn him of his...mercurial personality
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>>5057391
>Inform Magnus of Perturabo, so he may meet him on his own terms, and warn him of his...mercurial personality

>Ask Kanzeon if she thinks Perturabo is fond of you, as for once in your life, you are left uncertain of the feelings of another's heart!

we will wait until after the war to show her off otherwise we might tip our hand before the war.
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>>5057395
Indeed.

I'll support that, since I plan to hold Kanzeaon back as a ace card to be unveiled, like we did with Daiyu.
The surprise of support will rally our allies, but we should inform Jinhai and our most trusted commanders.
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>>5057448
If Avalokiteśvara sensors couldn't detect an object as large as Kanzeon leaving the athmosphere than we might have this war in the bag.
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>>5057391

>Inform Magnus of Perturabo, so he may meet him on his own terms, and warn him of his...mercurial personality

>Ask Kanzeon if she thinks Perturabo is fond of you, as for once in your life, you are left uncertain of the feelings of another's heart!
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>>5057391
>>Inform Magnus of Perturabo, so he may meet him on his own terms, and warn him of his...mercurial personality
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>>5057391
>Inform Magnus of Perturabo, so he may meet him on his own terms, and warn him of his...mercurial personality

>Ask Kanzeon if she thinks Perturabo is fond of you, as for once in your life, you are left uncertain of the feelings of another's heart!
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>>5057400
to be fair its almost entirely a lie of omission, it was said people will hear the voices of angels or gods, we just never specified it was more then that, also that listening to those voices is a completely retarded idea.
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>>5057391
>Inform Magnus of Perturabo, so he may meet him on his own terms, and warn him of his...mercurial personality
>Return to Shangrala and show Kanzeon to the world, to show to her she will be accepted and loved by at least your people
Really wishing we at least implied that the barbarians are heavily involved with the eye since Pert just has to travel to another inhabited planet and look towards the eye to know something is up and his autism will likely instantly blame us, if he tries to reform Olympia and the eye never changes he might get extreme as well.
Chaos shipfu certainly knows Kanzeon is active, it was her engines and defensive systems mentioned as mostly fucked, we need to blitz her directly with Kanzeon and the whole Long-Jia army while we have a critical advantage. They will drop everything to get chaos shipfu in the air again because Nitya is a rare Khornate with some serious brains.
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>>5057757
For what it's worth, all we have to do is ask Emps for permission to tell Perturabo the truth ASAP, then do so. After we explain that the mere knowledge of chaos is dangerous, and thus why we were under oath not to tell anyone about it, even Perturabo's autism can't possibly blame us entirely. Hell, we never even told him a single lie, just omit part of the truth, the rest he inferred himself.

But yeah, we can't sit on this lie for too long, it could get ugly. If he goes anywhere else he will either conclude that everyone is still out to get him, or figure out that something is not adding up and get suspicious. That being said I don't believe Pert ever left Olympia before being found so with any luck we will have plenty of time to convince the Emperor to tell him the truth before that happens.
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>>5057391
>Inform Magnus of Perturabo, so he may meet him on his own terms, and warn him of his...mercurial personality
>Return to Shangrala and show Kanzeon to the world, to show to her she will be accepted and loved by at least your people
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>>5057835
>I don't believe Pert ever left Olympia before being found
In canon, no. Guilliman, Dorn, and Alpharius (depending on when in the week you ask him) were the only ones to make it off the worlds they landed on. However, we did just tell him to go look for all the neat technological secrets hidden in his pod, so that might change.
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Should this thread be archived soon? It's getting pretty low on the list.
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>>5058025
I think Malal you make the next update on the next thread.
No need to worry unless the Machine Spirits start missbehaving again.
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>In a way she is a reflection of yourself wrought in steel and wires. In a way, you admire her. In a way, she inspires you

>Princess locked in stone
Beauty born through sacrifice
Goddess of the wilds

>She cannot hear the poem writ in her honor. But one day, when she is free, you shall read it to her and pen a second poem to immortalize her liberation from her once eternal straight jacket of substrata rock

When are we going to share that poem with Kanzeon.
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>>5057900
Oh boy. He's going to really shake things up.
I kind of wish we convinced him to replace the Tyrant with his sister. Perhaps by making her position unassailable and convincing Damekos that no matter what happens, she will be safe and his kingdom will be run as well as can be.

He should now retire and enjoy himself. There is much to do.

Ah well. Maybe he'll do it after he's done picking apart his pod for fun tech.
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>>5058193
I wanted to give him some parting advice before we signed off the skype call, but Malal wisely chose brevity, given the fact we're rather low in the catalog now. Something about how much like iron he is and how while that is an admirable and envious trait, iron will break before it bends and that he should try opening himself to other possibilities instead of standing stalwart in his first impression/observation/deduction. Perhaps Dammekos is not attempting to curry his favor for personal gain, but out of genuine parental care. Perhaps he's misread Andros' contentment with life for lack of ambition. But I digress, we'll more chances to talk later.
I also wanted to say something like "And brother? She DOES have sisters." and then wink and end the call. Making Pert be at a loss for words might be my unofficial goal.
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Calling the vote now

Realize, with the star charts Kanzeon has taken from the Aeldari raiders and those in her archives, you could easily find New Varro! And tell the families of the refugees of their survival: 3

Inform Magnus of Perturabo, so he may meet him on his own terms, and warn him of his...mercurial personality:14

Ask Kanzeon if she thinks Perturabo is fond of you, as for once in your life, you are left uncertain of the feelings of another's heart!:7

Return to Shangrala and show Kanzeon to the world, to show to her she will be accepted and loved by at least your people:8

total votes: 17

Alright, so Lieren will inform Magnus of Perturabo and warn him of his Mercurial temperament, and then return to Shangrala with Kanzeon to show her there will always be one place in the galaxy where she will be accepted and loved

Writing now

>>5058025
>>5058034
I always keep a close eye on the threads position. currently, its 15 threads from the one about to drop. That's a healthy distance

However I am planning on making a new thread soon, probably in the update after this one or the one after that one
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>>5058391
Why did Lieren see so much potential in that one swampy land ruled by that one noble? Are swamps supposed to abundant in something useful?
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>>5058410
usually, they have a lot of oil or natural gases.
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>>5058410
Minerals, fertile soil, much water and biomass.

A swamp is what happens when an environment is TOO rich and has nowhere to put all its resources, you could call it a bloated rainforest if you like
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>>5058412
>>5058413
Bingo
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>>5058412
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>>5058419
Huh, I didn't know that. I've never read that before.
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"I should inform Magnus of this discovery!" You state, as your emotional energy refortifies and returns to its natural strength after enduring the relentless assault of Perturabo's near utter lack of filial piety, drawing you fingers through Kanzeon's hair until you reach the crook of her neck and curl them, in a manner similar to preening

"To warn him that Perturabo is an emotional minefield?" Kanzeon asks with a amused smirk "Though, I suppose it is natural for a genius to disdain those who cannot see his vision of the future and hold in contempt those who would seek to reign their intellect to their own ambitions"

"He does serve a tyrant" You darkly reply, pressing the knuckles of your other hand against your chin "But, Magnus should still know to expect how quickly the winds of the storm in our brothers heart can turn, and how proud of a man he is. To avoid the sprouting of the weeds of resentment in our family garden, a misunderstanding can quickly turn into a grudge or outright hatred if allowed to grow and fester. And Perturabo"

"Seems like he'd be set as iron in his view and impression of others" Kanzeon states, pouting her lips as she stares out at the terrible eye "But, when he's in company he can enjoy, beneath that bitter shell he can almost be personable"

"I hope I can break the shell completely from him some day" You sigh, enjoying Kanzeon's presence and warmth for a few moments longer before you reach out to Magnus, to bring him the good news and share your excitement more openly in his company.
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In a holdfast in the calmest shallows of the great sea, Magnus of Prospero tirelessly studied and experimented. He was dressed in robes of psionic material native to his world, woven into fine wire and then separated down into thread so thin it could be measured only on the atomic scale. Taking the arcane wards that adorned the pod that bore him down to Proud Prospero, that his brother had taken to using as a hunter may use a torch to ward away predators and burn them from their dens, he had researched more complex arrangements of the Null Denouncement Charms, as Lieren had dubbed them. Arrays of sigils, runes and geometric wards that allowed him to safely expose himself to the essence of the malignant forces that had rose against his family.

His eyes flicked between a thousand colors, as he maneuvered the silk like gloves he wore across his laboratory. These entities, wicked spirits, were compromised solely of emotional and psionic energy. A sapient form of thought form, that in the sea and in regions greatly exposed to the currents of its uncontained energies, could manifest into avatars of living flesh or a near approximation of a living body. A mimicry of true life.

He had left his library, to pursue and capture the weakest of their breed, to dissect and harvest from them reagents particularly steeped in warp energy. He had learned the purpose of a handful within his growing collection,
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some so intimately he was able to categorize their former owners as a collective species.

But, there was no use for them. Even the ichor that flowed through these being's veins had the potential to be corruptive. By nature, there was nothing wholesome or beneficial to be found in the bodies of these devils.

However, the impossible has never been an obstacle for Magnus Before. With the cycles of the five primordial elements, he had found that, under the proper conditions, one could cleanse the energies of the warp of their "Signature" the connection of malignancy that bound the spirits to their greater whole.

Alchemy. If he could find the method of cleansing the elixirs and the reagents they were derived from, it he could render the tonics safe for mortal consumption. In a way, stealing the power of his enemy without risking joining their ranks or polluting his own soul. He opened a canopic jar, and released its contents into a cauldron fueled by the very fires of his soul and will, that powered the near innumerable charms carved into its surface.

And then, he heard a familiar chime. With a wave of his hand, his experiment halted, freezing in place as he left his hidden laboratory and returned to his body.

Soon, across the horizon of the warp, he beheld the golden, silver tipped inferno of Lieren's soul, striding towards him at a pace that could only be described as energetically overjoyed. Magnus smiled, and greeted his brother with open arms, emptying his mind of all thought of his research and experiments the moment he saw him. There was little reason to dwell on such dark matters when in the company of family, after all.
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"You've found another one of our brothers? By sheer chance? Sometimes I wonder if fortune favors or detests you" Magnus said merrily, noticing your confusion as he mentioned more, yet unknown brothers

"One of?" You question, feeling your excitement boiling up within you and threatening to overflow as a youthful, careless warmth flushes across your face "You mean to tell me we have more siblings than Perturabo and eachother?"

"Of course? I figured you had known, considering your research into our gestation pod and meeting our father" Magnus said, as shocked as you were but a moment ago "But I suppose such knowledge is easy to overlook, when you were the second of twenty to be...well produced is a harsh term, so lets instead say born"

"Ah, but crafted is far more poetic and easier to make into a song, dear brother" You laugh, almost feeling drunk on your own joy at knowing you have more brothers and a larger family than, wait a minute, did he say twenty "There's seventeen other primarchs?"

"And twenty legions of warriors reshaped into our sons" Magnus says with casual smirk "Though, you know of your sons, I'm certain. lets instead turn the conversation to the most important matter at hand, Perturabo"

"Of course, of course" You laugh, pressing and rubbing your hands together
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"You should meet him for yourself, but if you wish to know what my impressions of him were? He is an artist, and a genius. A natural engineer and builder. An architect, an inventor. A man who would seem more your brother than I!"

Magnus' eyes flare between brilliant blue and dull slate.

"However" You state, clapping your hands together "He is mercurial in temperament. His emotions are potent, powerful but easily changed. And he is one that is quick to take offense or imagine insult. Meeting him, and earning his trust was as much of a battle as any of those I've fought with spear, Guandao or Chendao!"

Magnus nods.

"Geniuses are often tormented souls" He muses "I'll approach him for a philosophical discussion, it should align with his interests enough for me to draw my own conclusion and at the very least have a pleasant first meeting. How did you find him"

"Drawing schematics, I meditated upon a terrible rift in between the world of the living and the dead and pondered who else might be gazing upon it, and in my wanderings I came across the impression of his soul and came to quickly admire its combination of artistic vision and efficient construction" You explain as Magnus closes his eyes in thought

"it is possible you bridged a gap between space and time to speak to him, considering the nature of the warp" Magnus muses "And that your desire to meet him lead you to him"

You pause and scratch your chin

"Perhaps, Yin energy is associated with many things, time being but one of its many faucets" You say, pursuing your lips "But he seemed to be the same age as you or me"

"Primarchs age strangely" Magnus pointed out with a wag of his scarlet finger "Unnaturally, and judging from your own accounts you matured slower than I. For all we know, Perturabo could be, from his chronological perspective, younger or far older than either of us. Or perhaps he has yet to emerge from his gestation pod as we speak"

"Gah, the discordant nature of the empyrean is truly tiresome" You sigh, pressing a thumb to your temple "thinking of the flow of time and how I may have stepped beyond it, is truly irritating"

"Time is one of the innate fears of mankind, is it not?" Magnus chuckles "But, I was merely theorizing, it is just as likely that you met him in the present, I am merely theorizing, brother"

"Well now it will bother me! What if next time we meet you are an old sage!" You exclaim, half joking.

"I should be the one worrying that, considering the company you keep" Magus snaps back with a teasing grin

And the two of you laugh together, greatly amused.
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"are you sure this is a good idea" Kanzeon as you sharply as she decends through Shangrala's atmosphere at a gradual pace, as you admires its fog shrouded beauty from far above it
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"Of course I am, a few already know your nature, and many more have been taught to accept the differences of others. The realm loves you, adores you. That the face they know is a but a mask you wear should be meaningless to them!" You confidently exclaim with a lash of your arm "Your true body is as beautiful as any star, or gem of the earth! Just as your avatar is! In any form, you are the height of beauty, grace and wit"

"And you're the most dangerous thing for my heart, darling" Kanzeon sighs weakly.

How will you show Kanzeon to the world, Lieren?

>Land her as close to nothing as her size will allow, and simply allow word to spread. She's family, she should be welcomed home.

>With a grand show of love as you reintroduce dragons, Phoenixes and other marvelous beasts to the imperial court of Long-Jia

>A flight through the kingdom and then an explanation to calm the alarmed populace afterwards explaining Kanzeon

>Let her decide how she will reveal herself

>Write in
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>>5058447
>>Let her decide how she will reveal herself
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>>5058447
>>Let her decide how she will reveal herself
Every time we call Magnus, I worry a little bit more about what he's doing when we interrupt him. At this rate, Big E is going to land on Prospero and immediately call Nikaea into session. Although, we could ask him if he could set a snare for a certain foxy friend of ours. Experimenting with the concept of reverse-apotheosis would occupy him for a good while.
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>>5058447
>Let her decide how she will reveal herself

>>5058453
I kind of worry too. Magnus might be more precautious of the warp, but the danger is still present. Drinking pure warp energy? That shit can turn sour quick. I think it would do him good to be lab mates with someone the emperor trusts, one of the primarchs, and occasionally Malcador if he has the time and attention to spare.

>Although, we could ask him if he could set a snare for a certain foxy friend of ours.
Traps are innately gay, but capturing the shipfu soul turned demon lady could prove helpful. Maybe even cure her of her taint?
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>>5058447
>>Let her decide how she will reveal herself
Once we are finished with the war and found what remains of our beloved's sisters we could try looking for other's that are gazing upon the eye like how we found Perturabo
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>>5058459
>drinking pure warp energy? That shit can turn sour quick.
I worry about how it might affect his own flesh change present, or even his soul. Either Magnus is projecting a more stable-looking avatar in our calls or Lieren is consciously ignoring it, but Big Red doesn't really have a base physical or spiritual form. His flesh is well and truly malleable. It's ever-shifting, uncertain, but kept in check by will and psychic might. His soul is the same, but he doesn't need to control it's shape. But I wonder how the mutations he's presumably going to induce are going to effect him. Perhaps he'll become like Sanguinius, who is constantly keeping his thirst at bay. It might even worsen the flesh change in his sons. All part of someone's plan, I suppose, we did throw a wrench in the works of the last one.
>I think it would do him good to be lab mates with someone the emperor trusts, one of the primarchs, and occasionally Malcador if he has the time and attention to spare.
Dorn has a stabilizing presence in the Warp and Morty will be more than willing to call him on his bullshit. Shame neither are that friendly with him. Else just keep a Cadre of Silent Sisters nearby at all times.
>but capturing the shipfu soul turned demon lady could prove helpful
At the very least it'll put a dampener on her "chewing off her leg to spite the hunter" or whatever it was.
>Maybe even cure her of her taint?
A nice end-game science fair project for him.
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>>5058459
Also adding
>Ask our brother Magnus if he could look for a particular entity in the warp, a form of fox that was once a sister to someone close to us that became one of this warp entity's through foul practices dark deals (give him a description of the fox and any info that may assist him in his search should he accept)

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I added some more to be specific
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>>5058447
>Let her decide how she will reveal herself
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>>5058476
also supporting the write-in
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>>5058447
>>Let her decide how she will reveal herself
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>>5058476
We have tell Magnus about our fights and story at long, so that includes Huli Jing. Since her defeat was fundamental for us, and for the detailed explanation about evil spirits, magical beasts, sorcery, their slaves and pawns and so on.
We can say it s her but not just a spirit (which is somewhat vague and generic), since we have confirm the knowledge that what Magnus had initially theorize, the existance of benevolent and malevolent spirits, is true (even if the latter are more numerous and bold in the empyrean).
It also would be better if we just instruct him to only go and see where she is right now, scouting essentially.
Instead of even going to capture or entrap alone Huli Jing. Is simply quite a very bad idea and mission to give to someone alone (Not for her or our brother of course, since her current powers are less than cinders at the moment. But for others watching her), even if Magnus is powerful . We should in fact attempt to capture it together as brothers, increasing our chances of success and ensuring a better security.
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>>5058447
>Let her decide how she will reveal herself
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>>5058447
>Let her decide.
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>>5058447
>Let her decide how she will reveal herself
>>5058476
I like this, but I think it's something that should be done once the war is over.
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>>5058447
>Let her decide how she will reveal herself
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>Let her decide how she will reveal herself

I think we should save reintroducing those dragons and other creatures until after we beat that guy, because dragons and such could be captured and turned against us, or corrupted by unseen pockets of warp energies.
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>>5058447
>Let her decide how she will reveal herself
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>>5058447
>>With a grand show of love as you reintroduce dragons, Phoenixes and other marvelous beasts to the imperial court of Long-Jia
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>>5058447
>Let her decide how she will reveal herself
Did Lieren ever study alchemy or was it just the cycles of the elements and some divination?
Considering Magnus is playing with fire and the cycles are what saved him from tripping into one of big birds traps we might want to have Lieren study alchemy and discuss it with Magnus.
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Just a small suggestion to Malal and my fellow readers, but as we can all agree Leiran is going to lose his shit when he sees the reality of the imperium. At the rate we are going we are going to be found quickly after if not before hours so we are going to need to be prepared for that. Also, what are your thoughts on Leiran referring to how the Emperor runs the imperium as Tyranny of the Sun? I think it is on-brand for us.
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>>5058998
at BEST we are going to see it as a necessary evil or something we need to reform to make it a better place.
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>>5058998
We probably going to have a talk with him about slowing down and reforming things.
The crusade can be rushed until all the sons are found, but leaving everything dor when the war ends just means the war will never end, because the core will be rebelling by the time you get back.
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>>5058998
>we can all agree Leiran is going to lose his shit when he sees the reality of the imperium
I don't think so. Lieren isn't so naïve as to think that everyone in a star-spanning empire can all live at the standard that they do on Shangrala. Though as an aside, Imperial quality of life was much better during the Crusade than it is during modern 40k. He'll be disappointed for sure, perhaps even disgusted by some aspects of society (coughcough Mechanicum coughcough), but he isn't gonna let the Ogre out. He will, however, try to implement reforms, but as that'll take time away from the Crusade, I don't think he'll be able to do as much as he wants. It'll be common ground with Vulkan and Sanguinius though. Baal, Shangrala, and Nocturne can all be shining jewels of the Imperium for other worlds to aspire to.
>Leiran referring to how the Emperor runs the imperium as Tyranny of the Sun?
I don't think we'll be so antagonistic. But we'll absolutely take the piss at the religious symbolism and language Dad employs, despite his opinions on the subject.
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>>5059029
Aye. Reforms implemented and using as much of our stubborn nature as we can to get Emps and Malcador to listen to us.

But we shouldn't actually bother with the emperor overmuch. Get his permission sure, but Malchador is the man who organises the worlds left in the wake of the imperium, who really focuses on culture. So we need his support.
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>>5058728
It would also make for a grea but of symbolism.
As soon as the lands are made prosperous, the natural inhabitants will return in force to celebrate the beginning of a new era.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG3uV1S2n9o
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>>5059096
I disagree with every choice in that video but the worst by far was Nurgle
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>>5059096
Awful choices
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>>5059096
That channel hasn't made a good voice headcanon video ever. None of them fit in any one he's made. Also
>Mark Hamill as someone other than Cegorach or Mephet'ran
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I have a question for those that know 40k better then I do. Lieren put feng alongside Arune as one of the two people he knew that could fight an incubus and when.

Where does that stick them skill/fighting wise in 40k? I want to say they could down a space marine captain with appropriate weapons and armor?
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>>5059150
Eldar by default have dozens of centuries of experience in their chosen fields, and Incubi are considered the best warriors of the dark eldar.
So as standard put them at the general capacity just above space marines.

Feng can't. He's got a maimed leg and is unable to dance and scarper around like you would need to face transhuman murder bots or space elves. He can shoot like a champion but he can't fight them in melee.

Asura the deathless is a Vishnu beserker and product of generations of eugenics and harsh living. He moves quick, hits hard and has a relic sword that's got some sort of Damascus effect. He's probably on the higher end of baseline human skill ceilings.
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>>5059162
<You can only hope Jinhai has seen fit to command Feng or Aruna to take part in the army's operation. As they are two of three men who could possibly emerge victorious in single combat against an Incubi. Even with his limp, Feng is a frightful opponent. And Aruna is the pinnacle of his society of warriors. The third is Jinhai himself, who holds the distinction of being the only man you've encountered who could have provided a challenge to Cui Fu and his peerless martial mastery.


From thread 10. Lieren lists out Feng, despite his bad leg, Aruna and Jinhei as one of the three humans he knows of that can down a Incubus in combat.

Also I had forgotten Lieren compared Jinhei to Cui when it comes to martial skill.
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>>5059162
Now I get what he's asking.
>>5059150
Feng's only advantage is he's good at ambushing and sniping. Anybody that can survive his ambush and close the distance will win. Remember that 40k doesn't operate purely off of power levels.
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>>5059169
>Feng's only advantage is he's good at ambushing and sniping. Anybody that can survive his ambush and close the distance will win. Remember that 40k doesn't operate purely off of power levels.
I really want to fix Feng's leg.

Still man, it's kind of bonkers that Lieren's manage to train at least one peep up enough that he's capable of downing an incubus and trained another up to the general level of an eldar aspect warrior.

I kind of want lieren to train part of the army again to see what kind of monsters we can dredge up from that.
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>>5059170
>I kind of want lieren to train part of the army again to see what kind of monsters we can dredge up from that.
We haven't gotten chummy enough with the Bask to add their best and brightest to our personal guard or the Brotherhood and the Shunni need to repopulate before we can draw from them. But once we do, I'm sure we'll have some Barristan Selmy-tier knight and absolutely monstrous psyker spellblade to add to the mix.
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>>5059167
Feng is a hunter [second best behind Liren if we read Lirens thoughts on hunting the third yan prince] and a crack shot. But he, unlike the others, isn't going to stand much of a chance in a direct fight which makes him the odd one out.

He can't face an eldar in close combat, but he can hunt them.
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>>5059170
Eldar of any kind are glass cannons. It's one of their faction defining traits besides the arrogance and being one of the most technologically advanced races. Against any other faction Feng would fair poorly against with the exception of Ork because they are RNG incarnate.
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>>5059177
I did say armed with appropriate weapons.
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>>5058447
>Let her decide how she will reveal herself
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>>5059177
He could probably outsnipe a Tau.
But they are too busy banging rocks right now.
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>>5059177
they're also the skill freaks. Since you know they train for centuries on end perfecting the art of war to a level that even most space marines don't.
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>The shepherd looked at the trophy.
>'You killed the jalpida.'
>'I did,' said Perturabo.
>'You have taken seven of my flock.'
>Perturabo stared at him impassively.
>'But this has taken far more,' said the man. 'And it took my son. You have avenged him.'
>'I have.'
>'What is the price?'
>Perturabo frowned.
>'What do you want?' said the shepherd. 'For the service. Everything has a price.'
>Perturabo's quick mind analysed the shepherd's speech patterns, refining his own command of the language as he spoke.
>'I do not want anything.'
>The shepherd was confused. 'Then why did you help us?'
>Perturabo thought. 'It was right. You are weak, I am strong.'
>'You have come to protect us.' The man looked hopeful. It was a piteous expression.
>The young primarch stared at the shepherd, then gave a single, hesitant nod. 'Yes. That is what I am for. To protect, and to improve.'

Got to talking with a friend about pert and hadn't realized he had a somewhat similar background to lieren.
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actually having done some reading, I want to work with kanzeon to make Feng something like the Exitus Rifle and Pistol that the vindicare use. Would be really suited for him.
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>>5059186
A fully repaired kanzeon should also have the facilities to cure his leg to full functionality.
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>>5059185
All of the Primarchs lean toward good. Even Lorgar with his delusional manchild dumbass is not inherently bad.
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>>5059185
Pert did watch the jalpida kill the Shepherd's son before making up his mind. That's the main difference in our approaches. Lieren, for all his mindfulness, will act before thinking if enough is at stake. Pert'll plan until he has the perfect solution, even at the cost of innocents, because he's so logically minded. He watched that kid die, decided he needed to craft a sword, did so, and came back to kill the beast.
We have a lot in common with the Lion too, come to think of it.
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>>5059189
We don't have the lion's whole thing of thinking people will see the same thing we do in a situation which is what fucked him in the end.
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>>5059194
No, but we crashed in the wilderness of a world with a bit too much warptaint and more than its fair share of DAoTech, hunt big cats, hunt massive warpspawn, are uniting feudal powers, and have assembled a martial order of the best and brightest warriors we've encountered. Bonus points, our Legion Masters both have neat titles, but "Bulwark of Humanity's Future" can't really hold a candle to "Sinestra of the Emperor, the left hand of the Warlord of Terra, His most fearsome instrument of conquest."
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>>5058854
Sounds like it's worth looking into.

So guys just something to consider. After we've excavated all the ship, sealed up all the warp portals, and brought prosperity and technology to the entire planet, what should be our next step? Salvage everything in space to try to build another ship, or use the space wreckage to build several space stations and defense platforms? Create a space elevator?

or immediately begin exploring space doing our own mini crusade?
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>>5059150
>>5059162
To be fair Feng did throw some fucking hands against all the bird lady's personal guards despite his lame leg. Motherfucker can go ham against +1 catachan tier humans despite his injury. I feel pretty confident that he could go one on one with a space marine thanks to his close brotherly affiliation with Lieren, and being one of the original Panther bros.

>>5059170
I think we can do it now that Kanzeon's facilities have been fully restored. We wont even have to cut it off to replace it with a clone grown one or with an advancee cybernetic. We could probably just inject him with disposable nano machines to mend all his broken nerve endings or other such GaoT goodies.

>>5059173
>Shuuni and Vishu peeps get int on despite cultural clash
>their child got the best of both worlds
>he/she's a massive fucking mountain of muscle that can cast MAGIC FIST at will
>uses biomancy and warding psyker techniques to BTFO daemons
>once skewered a greater daemon with a titanic's chainsword
One can dream

>>5059177
Oh man imagine having to roll RNG when we eventually encounter orks. Shit is gonna get weird.

>>5059185
>kid died but Pert did good
>feels good man

>>5059198
Huh. We do have some similarities to our brother Johnson.
>both came from the wilds
>both fucking hate demons
>both kill monsters
Main difference is that hes got power armor in his early years while we got heavy tier carapace.
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Calling the vote now. I've archived this thread, and will link the new one after I've made it.

Let her decide how she will reveal herself:15

Ask our brother Magnus if he could look for a particular entity in the warp, a form of fox that was once a sister to someone close to us that became one of this warp entity's through foul practices dark deals (give him a description of the fox and any info that may assist him in his search should he accept): 2

With a grand show of love as you reintroduce dragons, Phoenixes and other marvelous beasts to the imperial court of Long-Jia:1

Total votes: 16

So Lieren will let Kanzeon decide how to reveal her true self to the people of Long-Jia

Writing now
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>>5059358
Will we be able to fix Feng's leg? Does Lieren or Kanzeon have any plans for the debris floating around the planet in space? How many sisters were there in total again? I know there was a minimum of 8 I think if we count Kanzeon too.
Having 8 DaoT tier ships would be a good way for us to start crusading. Oooh maybe we could even build a shipyard.
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>>5059380
The question you should ask is if Feng would accept the procedure. And they certainly do, its Lieren, come on now.
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>>5059400
New thread
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>>5059380
There are 5 alive, counting Kanzeon, and 3 whose bodies can be used as vessels for new souls (1 daemon and 2 dead). So yeah, 8 in total, as Kanzeon made no indication that her scan missed any.



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