The Grail War continues, and your feast has been interrupted by an attack from your deadliest enemy.You are Shinji Makiri, Ten years ago you suddenly found yourself with the memories of a complete past life that saw this world as a fictional story due to some unprecedented form of inter-dimensional transportation. Since that day, your new composite being has been working to change the grim future laid out for you.To that end, you have done much, involving yourself with events and situations that have shifted the future away from the one that you once would have faced and instead onto one of uncertainty and chaos.The Fifth Holy Grail War lies ahead of you, and the challenge and danger it represents to you, the people you care for and the world itself is far greater than you could have ever predicted. Though the grail might be corrupted and the war itself might be a sham, the stakes couldn't be higher.Archive of Paradox Reincarnator: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=Fate/Paradox%20ReincarnatorGeneral QM Archive: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=WhatIsAQMStatus Menu: https://pastebin.com/h152hbhVShinji Status Page: https://pastebin.com/a6fiNxrZMy Twitter: https://twitter.com/WhatIsAQMLast Thread: >>4867777
"Then if you're truly fine with it... then... then I'll become your wielder." You ask Rhongomyniad to once more return to the form of a weapon for you. While you do think that the goddess deserves a chance to have a body of her own at some point, you can't just allow her to take the body of somebody else, especially not somebody that you care about. While you didn't spend an altogether great amount of time with Gray, you do still consider her one of your dear friends, and a person that deserves to be protected. Even if Rhongomyniad has apparently kept Gray's soul safe, you don't think that Gray deserves to be kept as a prisoner in her own body for the sake of a double agent. Rhongomyniad might not be able to understand the meaning of it, being a weapon that was created with the purpose to be wielded, but for humans and living beings, getting taken over by a foreign body is almost certainly the most terrifying thing that could possibly happen to them. Ironic, considering your origin in this world, but... you're a gestalt being anyway. You've always considered yourself as such. The original Shinji as he existed in Fate/Stay Night was never allowed to come to fruition as a result of the soul fusion that occurred ten years ago, resulting in you. But... you're really just posturing at this point about things. At the end of the day, there's a big difference between what occurred to you and Shinji out of the blue one day and what most Pseudo-Servants do. "If that is what you wish, as the victor of our duel, I shall abide by your request, and return to my original form as the Spear of the End." Rhongomyniad sounds somewhat sad as she accepts your request, almost as if she doesn't truly wish to surrender the body she inhabits, and... you can't really blame her. For an existence that is likely only a few hours old to be granted a body and then willingly remove themselves from it is... kind of sad. Even if it was never her body in the first place, it still must be crushing for the Goddess. For somebody who only just learned how to process emotions to give up their ability to function in the form of a human like this. You try to steady your heart, and steel your emotions. Now isn't the time to get sappy over the Goddess Rhongomyniad of all people, so you try to keep your voice clear as you speak once more. "However... without the form of a goddess, and limited to my own output, which is nothing compared to your own as it is now, I fear for my ability to maintain a defense as mighty as the veil of light that you graciously put into place to protect us all, Rhon." You give the goddess a sad smile, and she smiles back at you, mirroring the emotion. "Because of that, I need to warn my allies to prepare for Manaka's counterattack." You can't just leave the defenses wide open once again, not without putting everyone at terrible risk, but...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4OULymXUnI
"Oh, I wouldn't worry about that." The cheerful voice of a girl suddenly sounds out from behind you, and you nearly manage to trip as you rapidly spin to meet the source of the voice. "A counterattack, I mean." Smiling despite the gaping hole in her chest, is Manaka Sajyou. The one who wasn't corrupted by Angra Mainyu, but... how is she here?! "How... did you leave that temple!? What about your bounded fields!" You turn to Taiga... or Alaya, you should say, who herself looks pale and sick at the mere sight of Manaka. "How have you managed to avoid a response from the Counter Force?!""It's an illusion, obviously." The girl sounds disappointed as you ask her the question. "If you want to learn more about them, you can always ask that worthless half-demon cowering among your allies about them." Manaka doesn't allow the happy smile adorning her face to leave it a single time, but... Rhongomyniad is clearly terrified of the girl, the always stoic Lion King raising a now manifested lance apprehensively at the conjured image of the girl. "Oh... Rhon, you really did wish to betray me in the end, didn't you? I never expected you to be loyal to me, but it's still a shame to see a dog bite the hand of the master who feeds it. You wouldn't exist without me, you ungrateful worm." Unexpectedly, the girl suddenly leans down and... grabs something from the floor? Wait a second... that's the bisected blade of the knight who stabbed through your body with his blade! It... didn't dematerialize with the knight! The weapon still oozes with your fresh blood, and Manaka smirks as she looks at it."If... you're just a conjured image, how the hell are you picking that up?" You ask the girl, scorn in your voice, and you only get an annoying smug smirk in response."Don't look so surprised, I'm not merely projecting a visual image of myself, Shinji... how did it feel, by the way? To feel the pain of being impaled through the chest?" The girl smiles as the blood soaked blade she holds disappears, vanished to... somewhere else."What the hell do you want!?" You ignore her ridiculous question, and yell at the girl, who doesn't stop smiling as she answers.
"Oh, I've already got what I wanted... You see, after seeing just what your blood could accomplish, I got to thinking. To create a being potentially above anything else on this planet merely through a ritual to summon a dragon... I realized that I no longer needed you." Manaka doesn't stop smiling at you. "Not personally, at least." The girl beyond gods can barely hold her laughter back, but then... then she turns her attention back to the Goddess Rhongomyniad, who doesn't seem to know what she should do. "As thanks for giving me what I need, I'll give you until tomorrow night before I bring this world to an end. My plans... well, let's say that I don't like having them peered into and revealed to others." Wait a second, she's... she's aware of the deadline that Nyarlathotep gave you?! Was she watching even then?! "But..." A page suddenly appears in her hand, and Rhongomyniad's eyes widen."No..." The Goddess breathes out quietly as she looks at the page in the hand of the girl."...I really don't appreciate you thinking I wasn't aware of your disloyalty from the start after all I did for you, Rhon." The page in Manaka's hand suddenly burns into ashes as it is consumed by black flames, before Manaka seems to just cut out of reality as she simply disappears.You hear a clatter to your side as Rhongomyniad topples to the floor, catching herself with a knee before coughing up blood. "Rhon!" You rush to the side of the woman, who seems to be fading fast. Did... Did Manaka really just...?!"Haaa~ This looks like it's the end for me, I'm afraid." Rhongomyniad states plainly. "The girl... The girl and the spear will be fine, but... this personality. I've only got a few minutes left, at most..." The Goddess is having trouble breathing. "My entire... Saint Graph was erased... It's only thanks to the..." She breathes in, suffering from a great deal of pain. "Compatibility... of the body I was in, that I... am still able to hold on like this at all." The Goddess collapses to the floor, toppling onto her back. "It's funny... to die after being fulfilled... You'll... save the world for me, won't you...?">"Yes. I will.">"I'm not going to let you die!" (Apply a concept)>Hug Rhongomyniad.>"Everyone! Help me save her damn it!">Write-in...
God dammit QM, making me feel bad for fucking Goddess Rhongomyniad.So what now? I guess the wield Rhongo plan is a bust, we have to incarnate her to save her. What concept would work?
Cursed Day of Rest status: Manaka`s total victory.>Apply a conceptUnconquerable, Inviolable, Unassailable, Endless or Resolute?
>>4882955Oh, shit. This is why she allowed the fight with the knights. And we thought she was too busy getting fucked by Arthur...>>4882974I don't know. And I'm not sure even a mere incarnation would save her when her saint graph got deleted.>>4882976Not TOTAL victory. We got Gray and Monica back, at least. I think Endless is gonna kill us as a concept, but the rest could work. Interesting that applying a concept is bluetexted now. This has never happened before, has it?
>>4882977>The fifth verse "I shall guide the way." takes an incredible amount of energy to recite, but as a trade-off, makes it possible for Shinji to utilize Truth to a far less restricted degree than usual, and allows for the easier application of far more powerful concepts.Just ask AlĂtheia to become big girl for a minute.
>>4882979So THAT's why it's bluetexted. I didn't remember that part. We've never applied a concept after reciting the full Aria before.
So NOW can we kill Manaka when we beat her?Any one still want her to be redeemed? I certainly hope not.
>>4882958I’m not in mood for tragic parting so let’s find a suitable concept.First ideas for me were “defiance” or “existence” to counter the deletion, but I’m sure we can come up with something better.Autonomy? Independence?I’m a bit wary of inherently permanent concepts to not condemn her to unnatural perpetual existence like Ciel’s who doesn’t seem happy with it, even if a goddess is naturally better suited to this kind of thing.
>>4882982The dead one can be put back down, don't know about her living half from this timeline.
>>4882982I absolutely still want to save the unpierced currently angra’d Manaka.As for the perforated one... maybe there is still a way to turn her to people.
>>4882982Yeah, I see no reason at all to leave zombie Manaka alive. Or, well, undead.>>4882985We sever her connection to the Root and let her sister and father handle her now that she'll be a normal child. Letting her remain omnipotent is a recipe for disaster.
>>4882983I think defiance fits well
>>4882991Sounds like a plan, but how do we do that without accidentally {Delete} her too?
Did you like it?
Also, what could she do with our blood?Are there any servants or magic that allows to control or kill someone with their blood?I know she wants to use our truth blood to do SOMETHING. Whatis it?
>>4882996We deleted Roa on purpose, and his connection to the Root was far flimsier. Severing the connection is far, far easier than unpersoning someone, and we'll have a better connection to work with now. It won't be hard at all>>4882997Storywise? A great way for the main villain to show up to fuck some shit up. Make our past mistakes costlier.IC? Thanks, I hated it.>>4883001We knew we were necessary for her apotheosis somehow. She's either gonna make her own Alitheia to use as a substitute, or, less likely, use the blood directly.
>>4882997No
>>4882997So our previous choice was an illusion.What would have happened if we hadn't tried to betray Rhongo? We only got stabbed because of it.
>>4883001...
>Rhongomyniad: The Lance that Shines to the Ends of the WorldOther interesting ideas:Eternity to have Rhongomyniad: The Lance that Shines upon the World for Eternity. Just need to ask Mordred and AlĂtheia to help for this one.Other concept that could work would be Perpetuity.Any proper Immortality concept would triumph over Manaka`s powers.
>>4883004I suppose, but our track record of unforeseen side effects is still, extreme in the results.
>>4883007WE WILL SKIN THAT BITCH ALIVE WITH A POTATO PEELER CLIT FIRST! NO ONE TRIES TO POSSESSE OUR BABY GIRL!
>>4883004If anything we should concept Manaka with empathy or something similar she hasn't really done thing wrong.
>>4883011Time almost killed us, what the hell do you think applying that will do to us?
>>4883013>>4883007>>4883004Yeah, like we're actually going to murder Alitheia's brother/sister.That's another one we'll have to save then.
>>4883011I don't see how Mordred would help, but yelling at Alitheia to become a dragon real quick seems worthwhile.>>4883014He's not possessing her anon. She's making her own. What made you think she would possess Alitheia?>>4883016>she hasn't really done thing wrongWhat?>>4883019If we can, yeah. It'll be our child as much as Alitheia is.
>>4882997No.Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! More deadlines! And free power up for the Manaka to boot.Good delivery though. Respect.
>>4883001Either she will use it to create her Beast or become Manaka Makiri by worming herself with something like Truth-worms to try to get Truth for herself. Risky but Zouken made it work for Sakura in canon so it should be on the table.
>>4882958>>"I'm not going to let you die!" (Apply a concept)Concept of Existence
>>4883021This>>4883001Read the post links. Although making her own is just as bad, because she is not having our kid.
>>4883021> What?Non zombie Manaka hasn’t done anything except stab Merlin and I don’t think that is bad.
>>4883018We got a solid buff since >>4882979 is changed verse and we did full aria and we can get AlĂtheia to go dragon to give us all energy we need. Time-related concepts will get bonus from Mordred helping us.
I wonder how you'll overcome her...Also, what do you think her powers are, other than her general ability to do anything she wants through Root Interaction?
>>4883027That's speculation by a random anon. Why would you think it's True?And we can't stop her from making her own Alitheia. We should have thought of that before we failed at the ambush with Rhongomyniad and lost our blood to atone.>>4883032She went along with zombie Manaka. They're both crazy.>>4883033>Time-related concepts will get bonus from Mordred helping us.No they won't. That's now how it works. Please don't make assumptions about how things work again, mommy Tiamat.>>4883035>What are her powers other than literal omnipotenceYou're messing with us, right?
>>4882958>apply conceptPerpetual - Give her the ability to exist without constraint, independent from her Saint Graph entierly.As for an alternative, we can use Paradox - she was erased, but a paradox can lock her in a constant state of existence, as if her Saint exists even if it is erased.
>>4883036>What are her powers other than literal omnipotence>You're messing with us, right?I meant more in how her powers were manifesting. The means of which she wields her abilities.
>>4883033Will that really be enough? That is a big concept to apply.>>4883035Bootleg us. At least in practice.>>4883041She pulls the Wiki our her ass? But literally.
>>4883036> She went along with zombie Manaka. They're both crazy.But she is actively against zombie Manaka. That’s why we got to make her not crazy.
>>4883044>>4883043
>>4883036I think you are underestimating Mordred.
>>4883046Oh, yeah. We're getting the Angry Manjew out of her, and then we're severing her Root connection so she can have a normal childhood from now on. That should help to make her not crazy.
>>4883050She has nothing at all to do with applying concepts. NOTHING! Please, let's not break another mirror today, mommy Tiamat.
>>4883052She knows thing or two about Time now so she has my confidence in her if we are doing with Time-related questions and ideas.
>>4883043Well she seemed to need the book to exert her influence over the servants. Medusa and Shuten had the contracts as well.We can ask Merlin about bounded fields unless she’s trucking us into that because she’s convinced he gives us wrong answer.
>>4883052We can't break Concepts we applied, you can't know for certain.
>>4883053For the love of all that is holy, drop this. This is not a question to answer. No one else can help us with applying a concept. Not Mordred, not anyone else.>>4883055What?
>>4883007She has our blood, thus she can somehow wield her own version of Truth.Our dragon girl demonstrated that, so... this is very, very, very bad if it's true.
>>4883058Vritra and Alitheia already did by supplying power. I think Mordred could conceivably help replicate the looping that allowed us to concept her in the first place, though it is a gambit especially since she even didn’t have time to master her powers yet either.
>>4883058>What?Why are freaking out so much about having Mordred help us apply the Concept? She can absolutely help, put us in a time bubble and keep us from burning out applying to Rhongo.
>>4883066I trust our king.
>>4883066Yes, Alitheia can supply power. No, Mordred cannot replicate the loop. We're alone in the conceptual world, no one else can help us EXCEPT by providing mana.>>4883067She can't do that!
Alright, first thing we gotta do after saving Rhongo is give everyone here some stimulant so they wont need to sleep, and then we need to form a plan.I fear we'll have to have that chat with Amaterasu sooner rather than later. We can't afford for our allies to be cripled.Any concepts we can give to our team?
>>4883072That is expressly what her power can do.>>4883073Unfortunately your probably right.
>>4883073Who have we not buffed with a Concept yet?
>>4883073And how do you plan to avoid Amaterasu keeping us for 30,000 years?>>4883078>That is expressly what her power can do.No it is not. Her powers cannot help us with applying concepts. That is a power unique to us. What makes you think otherwise?
>>4882997I love manaka.
>>4883079Medea Satsuki Shirou Tamamo are the ones that come to mind first.
>>4882958>"I'm not going to let you die!">Ask Alitheia to become a dragon, but outside so she doesn't collapse the house on our head.>Ask Sakura, Gil and Enkidu to go with her and make sure your daughter is safe.>Ask Merlin to cover them.with an illusion.>Apply the concept of "Endless" to RhongomyniadFull Aria, plus Dragon Daughter, plus Ares's sash, we should be able to do this.
>>4883058I don`t consider Mordred to be strictly necessary but among our allies she is one of the best who can help us. If not by her Time powers than by her almost unlimited magical energy supply.Although, AlĂtheia going big could make it redundant.>>4883073Should probably first give Nyarly a call after we are done saving the Spear.We got his phone number now.
>>4883073We should probably meet Amaterasu later since the world ends tomorrow.
Calling in 15?Yeah.15.
>>4883084Our magic circuits can only handle so much power. It doesn't help to have an ocean of mana available when you still have to use a straw. Alitheia is enough.
>>4882997>dayofparty.png
>>4883079Shirou, Archer, Merlin, Rin, Shuten... a bunch of people.I say give Merlin Sympathy, as we've already discussed a few threads back.Also, he must be shitting himself after Manaka came here too.>>4883080We'll have to think of something. This is an awful situation, and we need Tamamo at her peak, maybe buffed with a concept too, and we can't do that without Amaterasu's permission.
>>4883079Check Status Menu in the op.Everyone without <of Something> is conceptless, not counting <of Orochi> and Eresh with Argo.
>>4883085The fastest way to give Tamamo her NP back is a concept. And we can't do that because Amaterasu is there. We have to chat with her, unless someone has a faster and better idea to recover her NP.
>>4883026This one is interesting.Anyone has a good idea for concept? we have 13 minutes.
>>4883080>No it is not. Her powers cannot help us with applying concepts. That is a power unique to us. What makes you think otherwise?So your pretending to be retarded with what I said she would be helping with. Right, go be intentionally useless elsewhere.>>4883082We'll have to think on it then.>>4883084No reason to not have more redundancies>"I'm not going to let you die!">Ask Alitheia to become a dragon, but outside so she doesn't collapse the house on our head.>Ask Sakura, Gil and Enkidu to go with her and make sure your daughter is safe.>Have Mordred get close and provide a rewind to Shinji's body so he can focus on applying the concept.>Ask Merlin to cover them with an illusion.>Apply the concept of "Eternity" to Rhongomyniad
>>4882958>>"I'm not going to let you die!" (Apply a concept)Space. If the Goddess Rhongomyniad dies, then we'll replace her with SPACE HEROINE X!
>>4883090If we hit Shirou with a Concept does it automatically apply to Emiya as well? Would they stack if we applied one to both?Merlin getting Sympathy or Empathy is best, yeah.Rin I am not sure, especially with her having the Golden Sword.We'll need to get ready to black out in our prep phase.>>4883094Either that or>>4883095or maybe Eternal?
So what do we have so far?>Unconquerable, Inviolable, Unassailable>DefianceConcepts centered on defying loss I think could work if they have enough reach to include defiance about how things are supposed to work in-universe.>ExistenceThis one might work or do nothing>Autonomy, IndependenceThese ones might get us killed on account of their limitlessness; and they may not work because her end kind of already happened.>Eternity>Perpetuity, Perpetual>Endless>Resolute>other immortality-relatedThis one may be on the best track since we're trying to invalidate something that already happened.>ParadoxMaybe something that would allow her to continue existing although her original basis vanished?>Transference, Transcendence, Reformation (although that last one we might want for Okita alter, or someone dogma or faith related)Something about returning from the beyond>Reincarnation, Rebirth, ReversalI also think we should hug her while applying concept come to think of it.>>4883072Why are you making assumptions about how things work?
>>4883095Support >>4883087
>>4883095You have no idea how Mordred's powers work, how us applying concepts work, and how these two things interact.>>Sovereignty of Time: C [WisUp!]A skill that represents Mordred's control over the concept of Time itself. As she is yet to become truly experienced with time, this skill is still ranked quite low, though Mordred has the potential to raise it to incredible heights through practice.Currently, she is capable of stopping time for a fraction of a second, slowing down time for all but herself to one quarter of what it would normally be, or speeding up her own flow of time by a factor of five, in addition, she possesses immunity to all attacks that would wield causality or time against her and can rapidly restore damage done to her body through reversing time.Because of this skill, it is also possible for Mordred to choose how old she appears, despite her immortality, though she appears to prefer her current form.>At a higher rank, this skill will be capable of showing off a True Mastery of time. Time Reversal, Time Travel, Indefinite Time Stopping, Time Looping... nothing is potentially out of the reach of the Sovereign of Time.Read it again, and tell me where exactly you see that Mordred can do what you say he can.>>4883099>Why are you making assumptions about how things work?Why are YOU making assumptions?
>>4883095This can backfire if mordred don't know how to do that.
>>4883098Rin can get kaleidoscopic as a concept.>rin can now use the power of every rin that exist in the multiverse
>>4882958Supporting >>4883083 since we are running out of time.>>4883095>a rewind to Shinji's bodySound outside of her abilities as of now. She can only provide energy and small passive help with Time-related stuff if we go by skill description. We asked Vritra for help to use her powers of conceptual Obstacles passively for Time concept due to it being Obstacle and her being supporter of Humanity.
>>4882958>>4883083Support
>>4883106She can already do that with the Kaleidosword.
>>4882958>>4883083+1.
>>4883083>>4882958+1Unless someone has a better idea that don't involve asking someone to use their powers in ways they dont know how.
>>4883101I trust our king you Autist.>>4883103Still better to have her try in the heat of the moment, her Instinct should kick in.>>4883106Sounds good, maybe something more multiconceptual like from Hindu religion or something, its on the tip of my tongue but I just can't think of it.>>4883095Add on to this. >Have Medea and Tamamo help Mordred keep our body together with their healing magic.Should cover most of our bases.
>>4883095>"I'm not going to let you die!">Ask Alitheia to become a dragon, but outside so she doesn't collapse the house on our head.>Ask Sakura, Gil and Enkidu to go with her and make sure your daughter is safe.>Have Mordred get close and provide a rewind to Shinji's body so he can focus on applying the concept.>Have Medea and Tamamo help Mordred keep our body together with their healing magic.>Ask Merlin to cover them with an illusion.>Apply the concept of "Eternity" to RhongomyniadUpdate autisim.
>>4883117It's not a matter of trust, but ability. Did you even read her skill that I copied?>>4883118Tesla only demolished part of the roof, and we have squishy humans that could get hurt by the rest of it collapsing.
>>4883112But that would give a absurd amount of mastery of it.Infinity also would be cool but deadly to us.
>>4882958>Hug her>"Alitheia, go big.">I'm not letting you die.>[Transcendence]
>>4883121Yes, and that doesn't change my statement.
>>4883121We still have tesla to separate from monica and ask for his help.
>>4883129I imagine they'll be back for him soon, yeah. Eresh can give him a new body, but we should ask Monica first. She's much, much harder to kill with the serb incel inside her, and she might not mind him if she has control of the body.
>>4883126Hmm.. actually no.I think I'll go back to my first instinct here.>>4882958Substitute concept for>[Defiance]
We also should ask alaya for helpAnd maybe ask for her and alan for a truce so the world don't get sideways fucked in 24 hours because some loli wants some cock
>>4883126>>4883132This is really quite a pickle desu...Transcendence should allow her to continue to exist in defiance of commonly accepted rules, but only if the way saint graphs work is not already considered transcendent enough in which case it would do nothing.On the other hand defiance should represent both her continued existence despite being deleted while also what brought about her deletion as well, even if it is not all that close to her previous nature.
Callin.
>>4883139The 15 minutes aleady passed.
>>4883141>>4882958>>"I'm not going to let you die!" (Apply a concept)Concept of Existence>>4883026>apply conceptPerpetual>>4883037>"I'm not going to let you die!">Ask Alitheia to become a dragon, but outside so she doesn't collapse the house on our head.>Ask Sakura, Gil and Enkidu to go with her and make sure your daughter is safe.>Ask Merlin to cover them.with an illusion.>Apply the concept of "Endless" to Rhongomyniad>>4883083>>4883107>>4883111>>4883113>>4883114>>"I'm not going to let you die!" (Apply a concept)Space. >>4883097>Hug her>"Alitheia, go big.">I'm not letting you die.>[Defiance]>>4883132>"I'm not going to let you die!">Ask Alitheia to become a dragon, but outside so she doesn't collapse the house on our head.>Ask Sakura, Gil and Enkidu to go with her and make sure your daughter is safe.>Have Mordred get close and provide a rewind to Shinji's body so he can focus on applying the concept.>Have Medea and Tamamo help Mordred keep our body together with their healing magic.>Ask Merlin to cover them with an illusion.>Apply the concept of "Eternity" to Rhongomyniad>>4883120 (not sure if it's a vote, he didn't link it to the prompt)
Can Eresh take a look at her regardless of whatever else? Even if her saint graph is gone, she's still talking to us somehow so it might be something for Eresh to work with.
>>4883127That's because you're retarded, saiyanigger.
>>4883143I hope your plan works.
>>4883150None of my plans have failed yet.
>>4883148k>>4883151bet
>>4883151>>4883152Going to have a duel afterwards?
>>4883152The sakurafag hasn't gotten us killed. Can you say the same?
>>4883158Yeah
>>4883158Don't know, can you be less obvious without your name on?
>>4883155Now why would I accept a duel when results speak for themselves? Both of what happens when we go with my plans, and what happens when people don't listen to me?>>4883158Heh. Thanks fren.
>>4883163Autist...are you talking to yourself?
Manaka still such a boring adversary. I miss based Grandpa.
>>4883171My only regret is killing him once.
>>4883155You namefag is tiamat, isnt it? In chrome it shows as squares, fucking google.
>>4883171I dunno. By the end Grampa was kinda based.Manaka is a fucking irritation and I want to stomp her like a bug.
>>4883176Yeah, gramps at least had to try and be clever to get that level, manaka is just lucky to be that op.
>>4883170seethe>>4883171Grandpa was a nice personal adversary, but Manaka's OP haxx are far more interesting to fight against.>>4883173Yep, that's mommy Tiamat.
>>4883001Medbee Shinji clones
>>4883171Grandpa lives on in us, whether we deny it or not.In the end he will prove to be the abyss that gazed back.
>>4883187dilate
>>4883172He was fun enemy though.We knew his powers, could plan accordingly and he had much more interesting Servants than Manaka did.He wasn`t just tyring to go grug with near omnipotency but was instead enemy who used his knowledge and wit. His endgoal was also really solid one.One Manaka is just crazy yandere loli for Arthur who tries to act smug and the other is almost doing Heaven`s Feel Sakura impersonation.>>4883173Yeah.>>4883176>Manaka is a fucking irritation and I want to stomp her like a bug.Well, I guess if by the end of it most of us share this sentiment WhatIs did his job perfectly.
>>4883195I'm surprised she came even as an illusion.
>>4883197How could she grab the sword with our blood if she hadn't come?
>>4883193In the end Grandpa did wanted us to continue Makiri bloodline.His legacy lives on with all those top tier girls he gave us.>>4883197Safe to assume each hour we wasted today gave her more and more powers.
>>4883199I don't know, how many Jack's are around right now?
>>4883202>Safe to assume each hour we wasted today gave her more and more powers.She countered Mordred. Every hour we HADN'T wasted today would be one more preparation she'd know exactly how to counter.>>4883203Zero? Because Rhongomyniad's wall of holy flame kept them out?
>>4883202She's going to be a headache, that's for sure, does our Anti divine team even function against whatever the hell she is right now? Sakura not withstanding.>In the end Grandpa did wanted us to continue Makiri bloodline.>His legacy lives on with all those top tier girls he gave us.>Get in the robot Shinji intensifies Fortunate Son.exe
>>4883209>Zero? Because Rhongomyniad's wall of holy flame kept them out?Which would have gone down relatively soon after she turned back. Which means she was impatient to get the sample.
>>4883213Why would she wait, risk us noticing the sword, and rely on the Jacks who failed on the ambush WITH surprise yanking it with no surprise instead of just heading here herself and grabbing it?
I wonder if we can still save the jacks, they don't deserve this.
>>4883218I think we lost our chance, illyafren. Manaka got what she wanted, I bet she's retreating and fortifying right now.
>>4883216Why would we worry about the sword with everything else going on? Them running like cockroaches would be a greater relief than us noticing them grabbing shit on the ground. We didn't even notice the blade until Manaka picked it up. Surprise would have nothing to do with it. >>4883218Maybe possible, she used Jacks as canon fodder, Manaka may just set them loose as a distraction.
We really need a way to prevent people from yoinking our DNA, If we don't I fear this won't be the last time someone tries to use our powers against us. (Yes, Morgan, that also includes you.).
>>4883210If we assuume it will be more conceptual battle due to all the powers she stole from Outer Gods and us, our best bet is to concept people we want for a final fight since they likely will have better resistance to her powers because of empowerment from Truth.Might want to ask Alan to give BB her powers back and concept her too for it.
>>4883171Zouken was a much more personal enemy, he terrorized Sakura, the girl we love most in the world, for years and was going to use us and her affection for us to completely destroy her. We couldn't move on from the past until he died Manaka is more godlike in comparison and her goals match it, she’s unhinged and alien, and there’s nothing really personal there, yeah she’s using our friends as meat puppets but we can actually fight back against her.
I wonder if our blood will even work as well as it did for our dragon daughter, considering that it may be already almost dry.Also we didnt gave it willingly.>>4883227Morgan at this point is probably just taking the long way of having mordred get pregnant from us, its easier and it isnt a backstab.
>>4883179It matches, Manaka was almost born godlike, she summoned one of the strongest servants, she controls Beast 666 and she had a connection to the root. Zouken, though a very gifted Magus, had to work for everything he accomplished, it didn't fall on his lap, he had to be smart about everything
How annoying. I was hoping could get Jets, Jack and Diarmuid soon, but at this rate she'll just have everyone in her base defensing her. Unless she decides to have them cause mayhem somewhere to distract us.Speaking of, we should go to Waver and ask him for Iskandar's concept. He's been in gay baby jail long enough.
>>4883227That is probably gonna be pretty hard unless we know its coming, unless we start setting shit on fire so our DNA is unsalvagable.>>4883228Well Nobu, Aclidas, Sakura, Lugh, maybe Jason, Gil and Enkidu...we got a pretty damn good list of people for the Dungeon Dive, now that I recheck it. But how do we narrow it down, should we even try to narrow it down? Might be easier to make a list of who isn't going down and who will be on standby or crowd control for whatever Manaka sends out to distract us.>Might want to ask Alan to give BB her powers back and concept her too for it.I am hesitant to give her that, but the alternative isn't much better.
>>4883231Maybe she won't fuck up being an Aunt.
>>4883235First we hug Tamamo and apologize again, then we grab him and retag Diarmuid.
>>4883231>FUCK MY DAUGHTERSON SHINJI>CONTINUE THE PENDRAGON DYNASTY >YOUR SPAWN WILL RULE ENGLAND FOR 10000 YEARS
>>4883240Can't we just create a mystic code which whole use would be to set it on fire on leaving our body?
>>4883246But Morgan, Mordred is already going to rule England literally forever.
>>4883240>we concept ourselves into incorporeality to ensure nobody can take a piece of us>they begin going after our kids instead
>>4883227Acht already has our blood, probably. We should worry about Einzbern homunculi with Truth powers when we storm his castle in a few days, but not right now.>>4883230Yep, excellent analysis anon.>>4883231I bet Manaka's Alitheia won't be as strong as our Alitheia, but she'll still be enough for her purposes.>>4883247>Try to trace a rune>Oh shit, I'm on fire
>>4883247Well the term DNA is a wide ass net, for instance, our cum(Obvious problem), spit(fire spit would be fucking sick not gonna lie), our blood burning if it isn't fast enough makes us discount Alien, cool, but impractical as it might set stuff around us on fire.
>>4883252>Acht already has our blood, probably. We should worry about Einzbern homunculi with Truth powers when we storm his castle in a few days, but not right now.What? Acht has Kerry's crest not our blood.
>>4883256He has both. We stayed in Einzbern mansion for days, way back then, and we made him suspicious. It might not be blood, but he certainly got a sample.
>>4883252I doubt Acht could do anything with our blood on purpose on the same level as Manaka, unless he fucks up. That might lead to nonsense.
>>4883257Do we know that or are you just assuming?
>>4883262Assuming.
>>4883257This is pure speculation and Acht doesn't even know we are a magus.
>>4883242>retag Diarmuid.retag?
>>4883258Not on the same level certainly, but he could still do something.>>4883262Is it not a reasonable assumption to make?
>>4883268Concept application, retag him, get him off of Manaka's crew.>>4883269So Mr. Don't Make Assumptions, is making assumptions.When at the time we were allies and he had no reason to try anything until after it was too late, yes. Moot point though, old blood shouldn't have all the bullshit running through our bodies right now.
What can they even do with our blood in like 24 hours anyways? Regardless, we need to prep and attack ASAP. The sooner we bring the fight to them, the less time they have to do whatever it is they're planning. We also need to go as hard as we possibly can.
>>4883269>Is it not a reasonable assumption to make?No. Last time we met Acht he didn't know we were a magus it would be reasonable to assume he now knows that but he would have no clue that our blood can create powerful being and would not have a sample of our blood.
>>4883275>When at the time we were alliesDo you have any idea who Acht is and how he thinks? Alliance meant shit, both he and us knew it. We betrayed him the first chance we got, and so would he.>>4883277He knew something was weird about us. The Matou bloodline should not have produced something like Shinji. And he's specialized on alchemy and homunculi. Taking a sample is exactly what he'd do, even if he wasn't sure it would be worthwhile.
>>4883257Acht wouldn't, be thinks Shinji has no circuits.Ok after this we have to have Merlin through up illusions around the mansion. Give Wavers Rider concept, have Rin look for our kaladeostar, give Madea a concept, have Madea setup the dragon blood ritual, concept BB to unbind her from Alan.I think Manaka is giving us a day because she isn't ready yet either.Is there something in forgetting?
>>4883280>He knew something was weird about us. The Matou bloodline should not have produced something like Shinji.At the time the Einzbern did not know we were a magus.
>>4883280So more assumptions. Neat when you do it huh? I'm sensing a pattern.
>>4883282Where the fuck is our Kaladeostar anyways? I hope the kids didn't grab it by accident.
>>4883280He just thought we were a skilled martial artist at best. He is very arrogant like Zouken was before we shanked him.
>>4883286Your asking me? I've been on about searching for it since it's so fucking dangerous. People gave Madea the task then near instantly changed her task before she could look into it.
Gotta say, I would have nothing against getting some True Time Alter maids. I find the idea hilarious.
>>4883290Shit is too wild, could Rin find it?
>>4883293>Accident happens>No it didn'tThey must never read JoJo, Dio would make them to much.
While Aleithia is big, have Betty make a set of horrors to concept into knight-like figures while we're juiced
>>4883283We tried to fake it. Did we succeed? I really doubt it. A teenager cannot just appear out of nowhere and beat a homunculus in single combat without making Acht curious. He'd love a sample, and we gave him plenty of opportunity.>>4883285I base my speculation on characters and evidence. You understand nothing, and make assumptions based on nothing. I have been right about literally everything. You have not, and still don't understand why. Funny how that works.>>4883290Medea told us she couldn't find it.>>4883293We could ask Illya to lend us some. They'll be her maids soon.
>>4883297How the fuck Acht have it? I can see Manaka nabbing it, but why Acht? He hasn't been relevant since we ditched him and reunited Illya with her family.>>4883303>I base my speculation on characters and evidence. You understand nothing, and make assumptions based on nothing. I have been right about literally everything. You have not, and still don't understand why. Funny how that works.Ah, head up your own ass syndrome it is then. Duly noted.
>>4883307>How the fuck Acht have it?I just explained. Didn't you read? We stayed in his castle for days after we made him very curious. He had means, motive and opportunity. He'd be a retard NOT to have taken a sample. I mean, more of a retard than he already is.He'll be relevant again in a few days, when we storm his castle to kill him and give it to Illya. And he's very relevant in a discussion about who else might have gotten access to our powers, even if it's a lesser form.
>>4883303>We tried to fake it. Did we succeed? I really doubt it. A teenager cannot just appear out of nowhere and beat a homunculus in single combat without making Acht curious. He'd love a sample, and we gave him plenty of opportunity.But we did beat the maid with our martial arts ability we didn't use any magecraft he shouldn't be suspicious and even if he is suspicious he would have no reason to take a sample of our blood instead of say dissect us. And even IF he had a sample of our blood he would have no way of knowing what it can do since Manaka only found out after we had Alithiea which happened on a mountain somewhere that Acht would have no way of surveilling. The only way Acht could possibly have truth powers is a series of absurd coincidences or he has meta knowledge.
Pretty damn weird that all of a sudden your freaking out over a character that had no chance to be relevant Autist. So ignoring your assumptions about Acht entirely until it comes up. And if it does, your either WhatIs pretending to be a player, or your an obsessive faggot in some DM with him and have meta knowledge pertaining to the quest, now sit down and shut the fuck up.>>4883311Much more likely.
>>4883316Acht and Morgan were always people to be wary of due to their predisposition to use Truth materials in their magic.This discussion has popped up time and time again for a reason, you know?
>>4883322>This discussion has popped up time and time again for a reason, you know?It has?
So, we may also need to save our stick, if manaka just dont use our blood to make a body and put the kaleido on it.
>>4882958>>4883083Bit late but, supportan
>>4883313You are illiterate you tisim monkey, >>How the fuck Acht have it?Isn't talking about your asinine theory you recently pulled from your rectum and think it's gods gift.>>4883315Fair, she did see us use it, and demonstrated the ability to just grab shit on her own time.>>4883322The Difference is Acht couldn't act on it(pun intended) when he noticed us take our restraint off. Morgan is more likely to be able to do something, if not for the fact everyone watches her like a hawk, and her probably desire to let Mordred just get a kid from us naturally.>>4883324I don't remember either, but he must be humoring Autist.
>>4883324Ye, every time Morgan was around, a few times regarding Acht after powers started getting stronger and especially when SHuten/Medea commented about FLUID EROTIC OUUHHHH it was a pretty fast mental leap to oh shit, Acht could have collected some and made Truth Homonculi.And of course, Morgan doing to us what she did to Artoria, pretending to be Guin.Lucky we have the Truth Eye now so we can see through her attempts if she ever gets bored of trying to use Mordred to acquire them through other ways.
>>4883326...would that break our agreement with Rin if everyone sees a genderbent Shinji?
>>4883314>he shouldn't be suspiciousTeenager appears out of nowhere, beats maid in single combat instead of getting flattened. Acht is curious.>even if he is suspicious he would have no reason to take a sample of our blood instead of say dissect usSample lets him study the mysterious stranger further without breaking the alliance. He could be planning to dissect us post war, we don't know that.>And even IF he had a sample of our blood he would have no way of knowing what it can do Not before he studied it, no. He'd just be curious and he'd want to study if it ended up being nothing. But after studying? I bet he'd be able to give his maids some truth powers. Probably halbers of Truth instead of something more serious, but still something to watch out for.>The only way Acht could possibly have truth powers is a series of absurd coincidences or he has meta knowledge.No, it would only take him NOT being a retard and taking his new, untrustworthy ally completely at his word.>>4883316>Anon asks who else might have access to our bloood>I answer>Pretty damn weirdI know you're retarded saiyanigger>>4883324Based skipchad
>>4883322Wait a damn second I just reread what you said, Truth material specifically? That has never been a damn thing, until we got here. Morgan would literally be the only one able to try it.
>>4883340>Truth material specifically? That has never been a damn thingHe's talking about biological material. Both of them specialize in growing homunculi in vats.
>>4883336>WAAAH, MY ASSUMPTIONS ARE RIGHT YOU NAMELESS PEONS, SUCK MY COOOOOCKYou right now.
>>4883340A sweeping term for any of Shinji's body parts that contain his unique Origin. Be it hair, fluids, flesh, bone etc.
>>4883342Based
>>4883342lol, retard
>>4883342https://youtu.be/DGAPTWbdGws
>>4883341Your dumbass has already been thoroughly debunked. And if you are right, then you know information that players shouldn't have. Sit down you worthless attention whore. And shut up.>>4883343Again, only Morgan would have any chance, fucking hell, Manaka has a better chance of just grabbing bits of us during our battle with what she pulled right now than either Acht twiddling his thumbs in his castle or Morgan either being a good repenting mom or two face Morgan as she is known for.
>>4883350>Your dumbass has already been thoroughly debunkedDEBOONKED>And if you are right, then you know information that players shouldn't haveWhat of the things I have explained is information that players shouldn't have? Do you think I came up with all of it on my own? As the nigger said, this has been discussed in the past, with people who could actually read. Unlike (you).
>>4883336>Teenager appears out of nowhere, beats maid in single combat instead of getting flattened. Acht is curious.Sure I concede this point>Sample lets him study the mysterious stranger further without breaking the alliance. He could be planning to dissect us post war, we don't know that.Why should he care about the alliance we are as you admit a random teenager and if he was suspicious even more so that he shouldn't trust the alliance and should just dissect us. How would he take a sample of our blood without being caught? Why don't you think that counts as breaking the alliance.>Not before he studied it, no. He'd just be curious and he'd want to study if it ended up being nothing. But after studying? I bet he'd be able to give his maids some truth powers. Probably halbers of Truth instead of something more serious, but still something to watch out for.Let's say he took out blood when we visited he shouldn't be able to give the maids truth powers back then. We weren't nearly as powerful back then and even Touko and us someone who doesn't just have a blood sample but us couldn't give people truth powers.>No, it would only take him NOT being a retard and taking his new, untrustworthy ally completely at his word.There are many things he could do to since he didn't trust us he could send someone tail us before the war he could spy on us through the teddy bear taking a blood sample doesn't aid him in anyway unless he had meta knowledge.
>>4883350You weren't here for the Einzbern castle arc. We spent more time IC at that place chronologically than we have spent in the entire Grail War to date.
>>4883350I don't know why you're so hung up on it when all this is is simple possibility that can't hurt to be considered for our future confrontation with Einzbern.Besides WhatIs might like the idea and use it even if he didn't plan it to begin with.Although personally I think it would be at most demonstration of Einzbern paranoia rather than any real suspicion on his part.
>>4883358We still did not reveal any capacity for magic that would strike Acht's interest, only martial skill which is why he let us there to begin with. He would have no need for Makiri genes for testing.
>>4883360>Besides WhatIs might like the idea and use it even if he didn't plan it to begin with.This is my problem if it does happen which at this rate it might since it does sound like a cool idea it will feel like a massive retcon.
>>4883362I think he'd be at least somewhat interested in how Zolgen suddenly produced a competent heir who came to usurp his grandfather as head of the Makiri line asking for a 3 families meeting.Even more fishy when he knows Zolgen adopted the Tohsaka's second child to turn into his new heir.
>>4883357>Why should he care about the alliance we are as you admit a random teenager and if he was suspicious even more so that he shouldn't trust the alliance and should just dissect us. Because the alliance would still be useful for him wining the 5th, the thing he actually cares about. Studying the curious teenager would be nothing but a side project at first, before he realized what exactly he got his hands on.>How would he take a sample of our blood without being caught? Drugs in our dinner, sample during the night. Or, as the nigger said, it could have been saliva, hair, etc. Those would be extremely easy.>Why don't you think that counts as breaking the alliance.Because we didn't realize it? We always planned to betray him, the alliance was never genuine on either end.>Let's say he took out blood when we visited he shouldn't be able to give the maids truth powers back then.Not back then, no. But it's been years since then. His research would have certainly bore fruit.>We weren't nearly as powerful back then and even Touko and us someone who doesn't just have a blood sample but us couldn't give people truth powers.I am expecting Truth halberds, not concepting and deleting like Alitheia can do..>There are many things he could do to since he didn't trust us he could send someone tail us before the war he could spy on us He did. He send a maid. Who can say he didn't send anything else?>he could spy on us through the teddy bear The teddy bear that was on Illya's possession all the time?>doesn't aid him in anyway It aids him in understanding the curious teenager. He's lost nothing but time if it ends up being nothing, and he has plenty of time.>>4883360He's hung up on it only because I was the one to talk about it. He would have agreed if it'd been the nigger bringing it up instead of me. He has a grudge, if you couldn't tell.>>4883363>it will feel like a massive retcon.Why? It's pretty well justified.
>>4883374Tldr
>>4883371>I think he'd be at least somewhat interested in how Zolgen suddenly produced a competent heir who came to usurp his grandfather as head of the Makiri line asking for a 3 families meeting.We didn't introduce ourselves as a competent heir at least not when it came to magecraft. There is nothing against Zolgen's descendent having martial arts skills.
>>4883360First off its the random smug assumption that some Autist is right by default would have happened when there would have been no reason for it. Then trippling down on his word being good as the GMs and his sheer denial of being wrong. At most if it is retconed to being right, the old blood does jack shit for him, as our Truth bullshit needs to be given, just the blood, not even as charged as we are now, would amount to nothing.>>4883371Our competency aside he would have no more interest in that than say what the weather for tomorrow would be, so long as we fulfilled out bargain. And we came to him on the condition we would get his help to get us a Servant to finish our old man, because until the War started, he didn't think we had any talent with magic, and only had martial prowess. No more suspicious than he'd be any other day, and would have no reason to grab a sample.>Even more fishy when he knows Zolgen adopted the Tohsaka's second child to turn into his new heir.It's clear as night and day that we went to school with the other child, why would he think we wouldn't know that?>>4883374Blow smoke up your ass on your own time you colossal autistic faggot. Your theory is retarded.
"I'm not going to let you die!" You roar your declaration out to the world. The Goddess Rhongomyniad, in just the span of a few minutes, has gone from a clear enemy who wished to battle you, to somebody you needed to save. You refused to allow this woman to die. To be sacrificed for no reason other than the megalomaniacal spite of an insane girl with delusions of taking over existence! No. You can't call them delusions, not anymore. Not after seeing just how powerful that Manaka has truly become. To be able to kill even the Goddess Rhongomyniad with such ease. You don't know if it was because she was linked to her power, or if she's developed the ability to obliterate whatever she wants through forming one of those pages... You really really hope that it's not the latter, and that Manaka hasn't gained the ability to instantly kill even beings on the level of Rhongomyniad. You have absolutely no idea just what level of power that the girl might have already reached, and that... that scares you. You knew that she was powerful even before, but... this is ridiculous. Unreal, even.You crouch down to look at Rhongomyniad more closely, taking note of her heavy breaths as you lay a hand on her head. You close your eyes to focus once again, before you begin to speak. "AlĂtheia. I need you to go outside right now, and take on your draconic form, Gilgamesh. Enkidu. Sakura. Go out there with her to defend her. Please, and Merlin?" You open your eyes to look at the Magus of Flowers, who has a serious expression on his face for once. He clearly recognizes just how dire this situation is. The fact that Manaka just instantly defeated an entity that was at least on the level of strength as a Grand Servant should have woken him up, especially seeing as he lost his own qualifications to act as a Grand. Alaya... you don't know how much power she's capable of exerting through Taiga's body without destroying it utterly, and you don't want to risk that either. "Go and create an illusion to hide everyone, just in case."Your brain is running at a thousand miles an hour as you start the countdown in your head. "Right away, papa!" AlĂtheia starts to rush outside, and is rapidly followed by Gilgamesh, Enkidu, Sakura and Merlin. The four of them knowing better than to do anything other than what you ask in a situation as dire as this one. Even Gilgamesh silently following your request.The walls made out of Rhongomyniad's energy dropped the moment that Manaka destroyed her page, but the attack from Manaka really didn't come, meaning it's mostly safe for AlĂtheia to go outside. Especially with an escort of some of the most powerful people on the planet... which... when you think about it, she's also included as one of the most powerful people... ah well.
You can feel time slowly ticking away. Rhongomyniad is looking up at you with those normally lifeless eyes of hers, now, only in her dying moments, do they display a true range of emotions. While she was excited by the concept of battle, now there's a great array of emotions. Sorrow, Hope, Acceptance, Despair, Regret. All of these thoughts must be running through her mind as the last vestiges of her existence fade away. But you aren't going to allow that to happen. No. You aren't going to let this goddess disappear after all that has happened. You never thought you'd be so desperate for the sake of saving the Goddess Rhongomyniad, but... after what she said to you, as she began to disappear... how on Earth could you let a woman like that disappear from the world? While the Goddess in your memories was a villain who sought to destroy the planet to save humanity, this goddess... this Goddess is an innocent soul, who simply wished to save both humanity and the planet with your help. So... you'll grant her that wish!Outside, you can feel that AlĂtheia had completed her transformation, as a wave of her energy floods over you, the tremendous amount of energy allowing you to rapidly recharge yourself, almost as if you had been touching one of Rhongomyniad's barriers. While Rhongomyniad and AlĂtheia are likely to be somewhat similar in terms of the amount of magical energy they are capable of generating, AlĂtheia is far more unrestrained and wild with the generation of her magical energy, and far less selective for that matter. And this is when she's only the dragon equivalent of an infant, already with magical energy comparable to a true goddess... As the magical energy from AlĂtheia's transformation washes over you, you prepare to enter Rhongomyniad's conceptual world, only for the Goddess to reach a gauntlet up to your face and caress it softly, her moist eyes, which have shown so many emotions in the moments preceding her death, only show melancholy now, she really thinks that you aren't going to be able to save her? You'll prove her wrong!You take a hold of the last vestiges of the Goddess Rhongomyniad's existence, and allow your being to drift into the remnants of her conceptual world, hoping beyond hope that it's not too late for you to save the Goddess. You open your eyes, and find yourself standing on a grassy plain, facing a huge blue and white city that seems to be ... crumbling away. As you look at the castle standing proudly in the center of the city, you see one of the towers collapse in on itself, as you turn around, you almost fall to your death. Behind you is a bottomless void, and you nearly fall once again when the patch of ground you're on collapses into the void beneath you, only being saved by your newly developed instincts. This... This whole world! It's falling apart! You need to find Rhongomyniad's conceptual core before it's too late!
It's clear that her conceptual core will be in the castle, but... where? You doubt you'll have more than one chance to find it! >On a balcony overlooking the crumbling city she never ruled.>In the fading throne room, a seat of power she never held.>In the crypts of the castle that she will never be buried in.>At the very peak of the castle that she never owned.>Write-in...
>>4883399On a balcony overlooking the crumbling city she never ruled.
>>4883398Delete and repost this please.You cut off the update.
>>4883374>He has a grudge, if you couldn't tell.Maybe you could stop feeding it and the thread would be a more pleasant place.>>4883386Just because someone is smug does not always mean they are wrong, Anon.The fact is Einzbern did have opportunity to take samples, and some arguably dubious justification. These are enough to entertain the possibility when we decide who to take with us when dealing with him.
Lion King returned to the throne room after her loss on the roof of the castle in Camelot.Agravain met her there and she let him die in her arms before she world hopped away from the crumbling castle and singularity.But now she's dying, so she'll just fade out on that throne.>>4883399>In the fading throne room, a seat of power she never held.
>>4883399I think all of these are the correct answer, and will simply influence the power of the concept. Which is why we should go with write-in autism. How about the grassy plains themselves? Ultimately, she is the goddess who protects humanity, and for all the marble walls to protect them, humanity first and foremost needs the fertile ground beneath them to thrive.>Write-in: The ground itself. All of it.
how much time until call.
>>4883412Are you sure about that? Every single time we have been faced with this choice, the true answer was hidden. None of the defaults were right. I'd be inclined to look for her in the armory, as she is at her core a Spear. Not a ruler, not any of those things. Even the prompts say the X she never had!
>>4883374>Why? It's pretty well justified.Is it? Sure Acht would be suspicious of us but he should have no reason to suspect us out magecraft and even if he did suspect our magecraft why would he take our blood? Most magecraft isn't linked to blood. But lets say he was suspicious of our magecraft even though Zouken who we had been living with for ages never knew and he did take a sample of our fluids on first glance our fluids should be pretty normal. At first our fluids didn't have magical properties and could create truth dragons that only happened recently. So it is far more likely if he did take our fluids for him to just leave it on a shelf somewhere and forget about it instead of spending years researching he has better things to do. The main reason it feels like a retcon is that Acht's actions don't make sense if he knew we were a magus he should have cancelled the alliance since it is founded on the idea that we were to help Illya as a martial artist.
>>4883421Can't be sure desu, her bond ce is the horse and has nothing to do with Rhon, just Artoria as a lancer.
>>4883421The only things she has had in her short life under Manaka's command was battle. So either Armory or the Barracks/Battlegrounds, going by this line of thinking
So, what is her conceptual core going to be?Naively it could be the lance itself. The lance that shines to the end of the world. Maybe following the light would help? The peak of the castle would be a good spot to shine fromm wouldn't it?
>>4883427Well, do you have a better idea? All of the default options have been traps in the past.>>4883431Barracks would be reasonable, yeah. But she's a weapon, not a soldier. And weapons are found in the armory.
>>4883374>The teddy bear that was on Illya's possession all the time?In the castle that she eventually lost the bear in, and where we didn't reveal anything, not to mention the fact the bear form was just to torture him, not as a recording device.>Drugs in our dinner, sample during the night. Or, as the nigger said, it could have been saliva, hair, etc. Those would be extremely easy.So you jump straight to the most obvious breaks in an alliance possible just to twist your idea into working out of spite.>Studying the curious teenager would be nothing but a side project at first, before he realized what exactly he got his hands on.Except he is a third rate magician compared to Manaka and he still would have no reason for it, since he know's we Zouken's brat, and would not care.>Because we didn't realize it? We always planned to betray him, the alliance was never genuine on either end.Again you have to make a baseless assumptions based on your unbeatable knowledge on the franchise, just so you can say your right when it makes no sense.>Not back then, no. But it's been years since then. His research would have certainly bore fruit.No he wouldn't, he wouldn't waste the effort anyways, but even if he wanted too, he'd still need to divert resources to his grand plan of Tunnel vision to the Root. You autistic fuck.>I am expecting Truth halberds, not concepting and deleting like Alitheia can do..That is the 10th most retarded sentence you made yet.>He did. He send a maid. Who can say he didn't send anything else?Because he values propriety above all else, and if he was paranoid to do anything else, he wouldn't bother and would just jump right to the cutting.>It aids him in understanding the curious teenager. He's lost nothing but time if it ends up being nothing, and he has plenty of time.Again you keep saying that, but only because you ignore he lost interest in us being anything but a useful meatshield for Illya.>>4883410>Just because someone is smug does not always mean they are wrong, Anon.It is when he would have to bitch hard enough to retroactively make himself right when there is no reason for it.>The fact is Einzbern did have opportunity to take samples, and some arguably dubious justification. These are enough to entertain the possibility when we decide who to take with us when dealing with him.The dubious reasons are as aired out as swiss cheese, to say he would go through that much trouble when he had his Grand Plan going on is the most asinine thing today to come out of Autist.
>>4883433What does Rhongo want most?
>>4883439Us
>>4883439To save the world, i suppose.
>>4883434However, she summoned those 100 soldiers to fight against us, who were incredibly loyal to her despite her detrimental charisma
>>4883441Shit. But I meant in general. Before us.
>>4883439To save the world I'd say. To protect humanity.How does that translate into a part of the castle?
>>4883434We have instinct now so maybe not? I'm rereading atm.
>>4883443She summoned the soldiers yes, but she is not one of them.
>>4883442So...what would that look like?
>>4883395What does the sky look like, Whatis. Any pillars of light?
>>4883442Uh
>>4883446Instinct is combat only. This is not combat, nigger.
>>4883445She was a weapon Arturia used, but she wants to protect the world, how would Rhongo go about it?
>>4883448I think she's simply too prideful to see herself as "just" a weapon. Savior of humanity or not, she's still a capital G Goddess.
>>4883453Instinct literally saved us from falling into the expanding chasm. Don't speedread, namefag-kun.
>>4883450Like the color is fading away to a miserable dark gray.No pillars of light.
>>4883445Well throne room is the place from which authority would be exercised, seat of power.Armory could be a place where you'd look for a weapon.The edge would also be a place to look for if it wasn't expanding, it could conceivably be that the core is already in the void. Maybe the correct answer is to dive into the void and look for the core there, but then the instincts would probably not save us form it... or would they?
>>4883465Any light at all?
>>4883465>a miserable dark gray.That's a rude way to speak of our friend desu
>>4883465I REALLY want to save her but theres just so many options. Throw us one more bone here, dude.
>>4883463If we fall into the chasm we die. We don't know what happens if we pick the wrong thing as the core, but it's probably not our death, and so instinct wouldn't apply.
>>4883472Not that you'd think was anything notable.There's no shining beacon of light in this dying world.
>>4883479So we have to save this world's entire foundation because it's FADING. We need to either imbue the ground or castle walls with the concept.
>>4883469The damn core might be down there too. Shit.>>4883465>>4883479Shiiiit, why do all goddesses need to be giant headaches? Did the core fall in the void? Can we see, ANYTHING, out there?
case could also be made for the crypt. She spent most of her existence sealed, no? Additionally it would be a place from which she would not be able to shine from. And it does represent a boundary between this world and the next.Following pattern of previous concept explorations we indeed always picked write in rather than any of the initially given options but we never learned if any of the given ones might have been valid. Still it's probably safe to assume the answer is not one of the offered options.
>>4883489Is there some kind of Church or sepulcher in the castle? Maybe near the crypts? She was a Holy object.
>>4883493>>4883479missed the post link
I feel like >On a balcony overlooking the crumbling city she never ruled. may be it, she would be looking at something she desires but never got.
We need to list important features in Castle-Cities that might be useful for brainstorming here:>Gates>Walls>Ballistae>Moat>Gardens>Townsmen Living Areas>Barracks>Arena?>Training Ground/Archery range>Spires>Throne room>Royalty private quarters?>Balcony>Crypts>Dungeons>Stable>Infirmary>Library>Watchtower>Beacons?
The balcony is likely because she loves humans and where would she view them.Hope we get to use this as a spear. Maybe she can transform back and forth.
>>4883500I guess, wait, how did Arturia treat her?
>>4883399>In the armory. Rhongomyniad is a Lance meant to protect humanity, and this is where weapons can be found.Seems the most likely so far. This Rhongomyniad has never had any of those things, and so none of them can be her core. She has been a weapon for her entire existence up until the last half hour or so, and then immediately felt the thrill of battle. Her core is a weapon, and weapons can be found in the armory.
>>4883399>On a balcony overlooking the crumbling city she never ruled.I'm hoping this is overlooking humans since loves them.
>>4883502Beacons sound like somewhere a goddess that wants to help Humanity would want to be at, maybe a watchtower?
>>4883505Like a lance that she didn't like using very much, because the lance ate at her mind.
>>4883505Rarely used it.
>>4883505Sealed harder than EXCALIBAAAAAA, used only in bloody emergencies, slew her only child with it.
ah fuck it, need to go to sleep so I'll just throw it here. Maybe someone more autistic will come with a better idea.>>4883399>Rhongomyniad was meant to be the light that shines at the end of the world. The void is it, in more ways than one for her now - as both integral part of her conceptual world, and now as sign of the end overcoming her.Take the leap of Faith and dive into the Void. Her core must still be there somewhere.
>>4883399>>4883517Supporting. This and the meadows are the only mentioned non-options.
>>4883514>>4883513Did she half somewhere special to keep Rhongo then?>>4883516Where was that...was it underground?>>4883517I...fuck. If its underground it may be falling in the void.
>>4883479Can we see anything in the void under us?>>4883399supporting this>>4883517
>>4883399>>4883517support
>>4883399『Rhongomyniad』Rank: A++NP Type: Anti-Fortress>The Lance that Shines to the End of the World.>A sacred lance that is said to be a storm anchor that holds down the planet itself.Specifically:>Its true form is a tower that fastens the surface of the world. Releasing its True Name will change its Rank and Type.>Even with its thirteen seals, it still remains a pillar shining to the end of the world, glimmering with the radiance of the planet.>Rhongomyniad is the "pillar of light" that fastens together the surface layer of the world.It's the tower. Changing >>4883412to>Ascend the tallest tower
>>4883399Switch >>4883506 to >>4883532
>>4883532now i'm split between this or the void.
>>4883535here is no canon evidence or purpose for it being the void, and SHinji specifically says, with his Instincts, in the update it was bad news.
>>4883399Switch >>4883524to this>>4883532
>>4883532>>4883399Fine.+1
>>4883399fine, switching >>4883520 to >>4883532but only because Negro is literally friends with Whatis and is sexting with him as we speak
>>4883541I'm just helping him come up with ideas for his own Fate quest.
>>4883399>>4883532+1
>>4883399>>4883509Switch to >>4883532She better be able to change back between spear and human. Manaka will not railroad us. We voted for a spear with a spirit attached by god we will get our Zanpakuto.
15 minutes.
>>4883543i was joking, no need to get so defensive :^)
>>4883399>>4883532+1.I can't believe I actually want to save Rhongomyniad of all people.What a quest man.
>>4883543Show pics, how big is Niggers tits?
>>4883550I was actually trying to stealth shill his quest.
>>4883399>>4883532Support
>>4883556oh im going to read the shit out of it if he shills it here
>>4883543Erotic roleplay isnt "helping with a fate quest."
>>4883399>>4883532Support. You know what you call a tower that shines light? A beacon.
>>4883399>>4883532Support.
OK and tally?
>>4883590>>4883399>On a balcony overlooking the crumbling city she never ruled.>>4883401>>4883404>In the fading throne room, a seat of power she never held.>>4883412>Write-in: The ground itself. All of it.>>4883417>Rhongomyniad was meant to be the light that shines at the end of the world. The void is it, in more ways than one for her now - as both integral part of her conceptual world, and now as sign of the end overcoming her.>>4883517>>4883541>>4883526>Ascend the tallest tower>>4883532>>4883534>>4883537>>4883540>>4883541>>4883546>>4883547>>4883549>>4883551>>4883559>>4883564>>4883570
Since Rhongobongo exists here, I wonder if Bedivere didn’t link up with this world by accident because he’s almost destined to return
>>4883399>>4883532Late because I’ve been a bit busy today. Support. It won anyways but hey whats 1 extra amiright.
There's only one place that Rhongomyniad could be! The tallest tower of that castle! There's nowhere else that she could possibly be than the greatest tower of this castle! After all, where else would the pillar of light that fastens the world together be than the highest point of her castle? Yes, there's nowhere else that it can be.You sprint towards the castle as quickly as you can, and though it appeared far away, you end up reaching it in no time at all! The world continues to crumble as you make it to the main gate of the city, and though the gates are closed you aren't hindered at all. The crumbling apart world has already corroded away parts of the wall and the gates that allow you to simply squeeze your way into the city through a gap in the gate. The destruction being brought to the conceptual world is slow but steady. Even with the conceptual application being processed at the speed of thought, Rhongomyniad is just fading that quicklyInside the city, you are forced to race towards the castle while avoiding falling debris from the buildings collapsing around you. Destruction is omnipresent, this city is undergoing a calamity greater than anything it could possibly withstand. The conceptual erasure of everything around you. You're forced to dive forwards in order to narrowly avoid getting crushed by an inn collapsing on top of the main road through the castle, but you don't allow yourself to falter. You spare a moment to look behind you, in order to survey they damage to the city behind you, only to find that despite your speed, the void behind you had approached rapidly, your max speed was barely enough to maintain distance on the all consuming erasure that is rapidly making its way towards the castle. You realize that if you fall into that void, you'll definitely not return alive to the real world, the same fate would likely await you that awaits Rhongomyniad if you were to fall into the endless infinite chasm, and if not, you would have no way of returning to reality, your consciousness separated from your body for eternity. A thought that's so terrible that even thinking about it sends a shiver down your spine as you sprint towards the castle.The void follows close behind you, even as you reach the castle, it's only a few seconds behind you, so you keep running, and running, and running. Doing all that you can to keep ahead of the void, but barely managing success. Eventually though, you reach a spiral staircase that leads all the way up to the pinnacle of the castle, and you begin to try to push your body even in this conceptual space. The erasure of the world is only a few steps behind you, and you keep running. It feels like you climb for hours as you ascend step after step, only barely in front of the destruction, until finally, you reach the top of the tower, and your relief causes you to make a terribly foolish decision.
You slow just a tiny amount, and that's enough. With the doors to the Throne Room just beyond you at the peak of the tower, you slip, the stair you're standing on disappears, and you begin to plunge into the shadowy oblivion that embraces you.And then your descent stops. A firm hand grasps around your wrist and throws you with great force towards the throne room, causing you to crash through the doors and bounce across the floor as the added speed finally lets you get in front of the void, as you look back at the culprit, you see a man wearing a full suit of armor, a head of messy blonde hair, and an odd tattoo around one of his eyes. Impossible! Sir... Kay?! Then... could this be what happened to Add?! Did Rhongomyniad absorb the personality of Sir Kay somehow?!You don't get to ask to ask any questions as the doors to the throne room slam shut, and you turn your attention to the throne, expecting to see a spear sitting atop the throne and instead... Rhongomyniad is sitting on the throne, clearly surprised at your presence in the Throne Room. "But... how are you here?! I'm..." The woman sitting atop the throne has clearly been weeping, and despite those tears, her surprise at your presence in her conceptual world causes her to question you without caring about her appearance."...Not going to die." You finish her statement for her as you race over to her, and prepare to apply the concept of Endless to the woman sitting atop the throne, the only question remains in just how you're going to do it.>Hold Rhongomyniad's hand to apply the concept to her.>Hug Rhongomyniad in order to apply the concept to her.>Caress Rhongomyniad's face just as she caressed your face before in order to apply the concept,>Write-in...
Caress Rhongomyniad's face just as she caressed your face before in order to apply the concept
>>4883675>Caress Rhongomyniad's face just as she caressed your face before in order to apply the concept,
>>4883675ENTER,KAY>Caress Rhongomyniad's face just as she caressed your face before in order to apply the conceptkissu
>>4883675>Headpat Rhongomyniad in order to apply the concept to her.
>>4883675>Caress Rhongomyniad's face just as she caressed your face before in order to apply the concept
>>4883693Bad coomers, bad! Where my bottle of water so I can squirt you. We already have too many woman problems and we just met her.
>>4883675>Caress Rhongomyniad's face just as she caressed your face before in order to apply the concept,Only fair to return the gesture. And Kay was a good lad. RIP
>>4883701Fuck off, retard.
>>4883708Very articulate, I'll get you a gold star.
>>4883714I'm above you.Enjoy the spearwife, cuck.
>>4883675>Caress Rhongomyniad's face just as she caressed your face before in order to apply the conceptCoom Coom
It called?
>>4883719How is it fucking to get to know someone before intimate actions or to know when to stop?
>>4883675>>Write-in...Honk Rhongo's Honkers to apply the concept.
Calling in 15?Try and get one last update out tonight.
>>4883778That's nice.That way we get to plan our next move to deal with Manaka's bullshit.
>>4883767Lemme just touch your conceptual core for a sec oh wait maybe we should wait first, get to know one another. Maybe try other people?
>>4883675>Pat Rhongo on the head to apply the conceptNo accidental seduction.
>>4883778>>4883683>>4883693>>4883680>>4883700>>4883702>>4883730>>4883735>>4883749>>4883789>>4883696>>4883771>Caress Rhongomyniad's face just as she caressed your face before in order to apply the concept,This wins.
>>4883784We touched Autoria and she didn't auto home in. Pat her on the head for now and go date later. The way your phrasing it is false.
You caress a hand against the cheek of the goddess, wiping away the tears that have stopped falling in your presence. Behind you, you know that the erasure of the last of Rhongomyniad's conceptual world is occurring, and you try to keep Rhongomyniad's attention focused on you as you rapidly work to infuse her with the concept of "Endlessness". The Spear of the End being granted the property of something without end, it should hopefully just be enough to revert the erasure of her being as a result of... whatever the hell it was that Manaka did to her. You begin to infuse the concept into the woman, just as the erasure reaches you and Rhongomyniad. Nothing remains of the world but you, Rhongomyniad, and her throne. Hovering above an infinite void of nothingness are you and the goddess, a single misstep would serve to plunge you into the void below you, but... the erasure seems to have stopped, the world seems to have ceased to be erased as you apply to concept to Rhongomyniad, you feel a slight discomfort as you continue applying the concept to the woman, but you don't dare move your hand away. The slight discomfort as you attempt to apply such a concept to the woman quickly intensifies into a light pain, and then further intensifies into a greater pain. The longer you caress the woman's face as you are, the more pain you feel through your body. But... it's worth it. You'll take any pain you have to in order to save this woman. This innocent goddess who merely wants to save the world, and to save humanity. You'll save her! You keep infusing the concept into the woman, who has now truly stopped crying as she looks up at you, raising a hand in order to caress your face just like you are caressing her face."You... you're my hero, the one I've waited for. The one who'll be able to save... everything." Rhongomyniad whispers quietly as you stare into her damp eyes, still moist with tears, she uses her sleeve to try to dry her eyes before looking at you again. "I'll never leave your side. I'll accept you as my one true wielder. I... the Goddess Rhongomyniad, pledge my Endless service to you." With that revelation, the concept that had been causing you a great deal of pain is fully applied to the woman, and the erasure is suddenly completely reversed, as almost like a pulse of golden light, the erased world is restored, the void is replaced by the stone floor that once existed in its place.
The entire conceptual world is restored in only a few instants, and beaming through the window you can see the sun, as well as the blue skies surrounding it. You nearly collapse to the floor in exhaustion as you look to see that the world had been restored, and that Goddess Rhongomyniad had been saved. "I'm... just glad that you're alright, Rhon..." You take deep breaths as you try to remain on your feet, but a sudden tug of your hand sends you toppling forwards, landing on top of the woman, who dismisses her armor in the small amount of time it takes you to fall on top of her. She's... warm. stareShe pats you lightly on the top of your head, and you look up at her to see a warm smile, one that could melt even the mightiest of glaciers. "Thanks to you, my Master." The taller woman continues patting you on the top of your head as a great white light overcomes you, and you feel yourself returning to the real world... but... you didn't want to leave yet! Lamenting your parting from Rhongomyniad, you find yourself laying on your back, clutching a silver-white lance in both of your hands, while a group of concerned faces look over you."Onii-chan... are you OK? Did you... manage to save her?" Sakura is the first to voice her concerns upon seeing you waking up. "It's been a few minutes since you collapsed and that spear appeared in your arms, so... did it work?'I'd say it worked.' You can hear a reassuring voice in the back of your head, and you almost freeze. "Uhmmm, I think so, Sakura... could you just hold on for a second?" Not wanting to leave Sakura waiting, but also not wanting to ignore the opportunity to find out what happened with Rhongomyniad, you ask your sister and lover to just wait for a second. 'R-Rhon? Is that... you? Are you in my head?' You think to nobody in particular, but still broadcast the thought.'In your head? No, don't be ridiculous, Master. I'm in the spear you're holding right now, but... we're linked forever now, you and I. While I once accepted King Arthur as my wielder, I... I can understand that the version of myself that exists now, the Goddess brought about through the spear's natural divinity being granted true sentience... I can see that you are the only man who is fit to wield my strength. Not even King Arthur herself has the right to wield me in my state, not after you... well, you know what you did.' The voice within your head that emanates from the spear speaks with admiration, like a mother to an exceptionally accomplished son.>'But... can you return to human form, or are you trapped like this?'>'I'm... so glad that I managed to save you.'>'If you can't take human form again, is there a way I'll be able to see your face again?'>'Did the application of Endlessness... change anything about you?'>'Do you regret that this happened?'>Write-in...
>>4884001>'I'm... so glad that I managed to save you.'>'But... can you return to human form, or are you trapped like this?'>'Did the application of Endlessness... change anything about you?'
>>4884001>"I'm... so glad that I managed to save you.">"I look forward, to saving the world with you.">'Did the application of Endlessness... change anything about you?'
>>4883999Route locked :DDDDD
So what about Gray? Is she on the floor too?
Do we get the Rhon was wearing sized to Shinji?
>>4884001>'I'm... so glad that I managed to save you.'>'But... can you return to human form, or are you trapped like this?'>'Did the application of Endlessness... change anything about you?'>"I look forward, to saving the world with you."
>>4884001>'I'm... so glad that I managed to save you.'>'If you can't take human form again, is there a way I'll be able to see your face again?'>'Did the application of Endlessness... change anything about you?'>'Do you know what happened to Sir Kay? if not for him, neither of us would have made it through that'
>>4884120https://youtu.be/STrMmLltKPs
>>4884001>>'I'm... so glad that I managed to save you.'>Can you manifest human form at will? If not and you got a taste for it I’m sure we can come up with something, but main thing is you’re with us.>Do you know what happened to Add? I believe he was integral in saving you.>that said, how do you feel about the changes that happened to you?
>>4884206Are you the based scothater anon from the last thread?
>>4884210Of course not. I love all the peoples of this beautiful Earth.
>>4884225Unfortunate.Scotoids must be purged
I do hope Gray is okay and tended to by someone... I’m curious though, if she says Arthurs can’t handle her anymore, does that refer only to her specifically, or did we remove her from Arthur/Artorias’ arsenals in general? Or did Manaka when she tried to delete her?
>>4883999So The Lance that Shines to the Ends of the World is now Endless. Neat.Unsurprising that Sakura would be the first to voice her concerns.We passed out for a few minutes and God didn't take that opportunity for a chat? Is he asleep at the wheel?>>4884235Gray should be alright. Probably asleep after the exertion. And she'll have been upgraded, just like Illya was after Ishtar and Eresh left her body.This Rhongomyniad is no longer property of Britain. She has a True wielder now. I don't know if Artoria still has a copy in her armory, but this was certainly because of the concept, not Manaka.
>>4884001Supporting >>4884167
>>4884001>>4884167Supporting
>>4884001Support >>4884167Sir Kay really saved our asses back then. What a a based man. First Manaka killed him again, and then he did a heroic sacrifice.
I’m super happy Rhongo is fine but I feel going for the romantic face comment is a mistake, and not just because we have several other people with that face around.
>>4884268You're right, but I'm not sure I like how you worded that part either, and we should ask about Kay, not Add. Add was nothing but an AI based on Kay.
>>4884269I’d say a sentient AI doesn’t deserve to be called “nothing but” but fair enough if that is the name he’d prefer>>4884001>>4884206Substitute “Add” for “Kay”
>>4884278Perhaps that was a little too insulting to Add, but it was Kay who saved us, not the cube.It'd be better if you switched to a new write in instead of replacing a word with a second post. That way people will have an easier time voting for it if they like it.And how do you feel about copying the nigger's wording about Sir Kay?
>>4884279Yes I suppose it is in fact more accurate.>>4884001One last switch from >>4884278to this>>'I'm... so glad that I managed to save you.'>Can you manifest human form at will? If not and you got a taste for it I’m sure we can come up with something, but main thing is you’re with us.> >'Do you know what happened to Sir Kay? if not for him, neither of us would have made it through that'>that said, how do you feel about the changes that happened to you?
>>4884001Switch >>4884267 to support>>4884291
>>4884167Support
>>4884001>>4884167Support this.I love our new spearmom Noble Phantasm. I hope we get to give her a body of her own at some point.Since she has a concept so as a weapon, she's beyond Excalibur and around Ea level, I think?We now qualify for Lancer probably too.
>>4884291>>4884001+1
>>4884001>>4884167+1
>>4884330She likely locked again and we have to stick to honorable deeds.
We've left the kaladeostar alone so long I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't he same thing as candlekun and found a new host. Might as well treat it like it never existed.
Ok, the world ends tomorrow. Let's talk concepts for after we go to bed and sleep.The wrestling tournament will need to continue post war.I can see everyone needing a concept so lets start off with an easy one. Medea.We can concept Rule Breaker and her staff for extra power. Then Tamamo.If just to get Amaterasu on our side.Depending on our link to Rhongo she might be able to follow us to Amaterasu's temple too.EMIYA and Shirou need concepts too.Illya as well.Alcides and Medusa.Caenis too.A whole lot of people
>>4884341>We can concept Rule Breaker and her staff for extra power.Anon, do you remember what happened the last time we tried to concept a Noble Phantasm?
>>4884338What?She literally adores us.I doubt she's going to make us honorcuck after our absolute chad move of saving her from non-existence. >>4884340Excuse me nigger what the fuck sort of retard gas have you been inhaling?It's a mystic code, not a familiar. It was also personally given to us by Zelretch.Probably to research and document our powers.
>>4884344Uh, we got Argo-chan?We saved Rhongomyniad's life?Eightfold Blessings shattered because a feedback loop with trying to turn the cost of magecraft it couldn't process into 0.Or at least that's what I gathered from things.
>>4884347>Argo-chanhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argo>The prow of the ship was also made with a special piece of oak from Dodona, an area sacred to Zeus. The oak was said to be able to speak with a human voice and could tell oracles.[9]Argo-chan was already half-sentient, and probably possessing a soul. That was why we thought to do what we did.>RhongomyniadA fully sentient being and a goddess, far more than a simple Noble Phantasm.It may be that you're right, and the Mirror was the only thing that could break from applying a concept to it due to its unique effect. But I think there's a possibility we cannot concept nonsentient Noble Phantasms at all. Concepts are ideas, and Noble Phantasms are myths given form. It's possible that normal Noble Phantasms, unlike sentient beings, are not malleable enough to be changed by a concept, and will all shatter instead. And I really don't want to risk Rule Breaker or Medea's staff like that. Unlike the mirror, they are both sorely needed and irreplaceable.We'll have to experiment on something we don't care about breaking first, but nothing springs to mind.
>>4884351The mirror probably was too autistic to accept concepts so it killed itself, but we cant be sure of that.
>>4884351>>4884352Fucking read the update retards.We can concept NPs.
>>4884355https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovQC32AKAnU
>>4884356I'm really glad that our Abby is just a normal girl and not mindfucked pedobait.>>4884357Is reading hard for you?It literally says why the mirror broke.Why are you being disingenuous?
>>4884361I guess we're enraptured by our new mom.
>>4884364Are you incapable of holding a civilized conversation without seething? What we know for sure is that the mirror shattered when Argo and Rhongomyniad didn't. There are more than one explanations of why that might be. Why do you want to risk possibly the most valuable Noble Phantasm around when we are not 100% sure it won't break?>>4884368Mirror shattered before we even started applying a concept. It wouldn't have made a difference if we'd picked a different one.
>>4884361proofreadlet I'm guessing. He posted it right around when he usually leaves for the right
>>4884357>The mirror shatters into thousands of pieces in your hands, the once mighty regalia of a goddess disappearing into motes of energy as it fades from existence, it seems that even for the Noble Phantasm with the authority to build nations, the same fate awaited it for trying to comprehend the power of Truth in order to reduce the cost to zero that awaited ELIXIR for attempting to comprehend your Reality Marble.I'd say that pretty explicitly links what happened to the mirror with what happened to the ELIXIR: they both tried to comprehend the Truth.It's not the act of infusion that broke it, it's the circumstance of the noble phantasm trying to grasp how it works so it could facilitate it.And it also is pretty similar to what happened to Shirou in his dead end.
Guys, take it easy with the stupid autism.>>4884372>He posted it right around when he usually leaves for the rightI feel like you fucked up there.
>>4884373Shirou didnt broke, he eventually understood and that made him ascend/cease to exist in that plane.
>>4884375I delete and repost things 4 times or more sometimes
>>4884370>Are you incapable of holding a civilized conversation without seething? Amazing.A complete lack of self-awareness.
>>4884378Lol true
>>4884373Are you 100% sure about this? Willing to bet Rule Breaker on Shinji reading the reason it broke completely accurately? Because I'm not. I'm not saying I'm 100% sure we can't concept Noble Phantasms, but you can't discount the possibility. It's a risk when we shattered 1/3 of the Noble Phantasms we tried it on. And I've been saying from the beginning that if we want to try we should try on a Noble Phantasm we don't mind breaking first, not that we should never make the attempt.Ideally, we should try concepting a mundane object first, just to see if concepting objects is possible in general. THEN we experiment on a Noble Phantasm we don't mind breaking, and THEN we try it on Rule Breaker. Otherwise it's just gambling, and I'm not willing to gamble with this.>>4884376What?>>4884378Seethe
>>4884379Fuck off retard.I don't need a fucking mouthbreather like you making me look worse by association.
I'm down for testing applying concepts in something not that important-ish, maybe the bracelet that gilgamesh gave to us.
>>4884383based
>>4884384You mean the bracelet that's only reason Manaka didn't grab us and send us to her rape dungeon? I'd say that's pretty important.
>>4884382We applied a concept to Sakura's internal dimension/magic.That's not sentient.
>>4884383Cringe
>>4884388It's not an object either. Or a Noble Phantasm.
>>4884382I'm okay with being conservative but I'm certain enough that is what happened that I wouldn't consider it a real risk.I wonder if trying this out on Shirou-produced instance would carry over to the original... might be one way to test out some hypotheses if not.
>>4884391It wouldn't, Shirou projects copies. But we could ask Artoria to give us a random weapon in her arsenal for the experiment. She won't mind risking it, she knows how to sacrifice for victory.
>>4884384I`ll shill this idea >>4877738 again then.Works as a test, compensates Tamamo for broken mirror and helps to make things even nicer for Ammy meeting.
>>4884390Feels like you're moving the goalposts.I wonder why you could be so against concepting Noble Phantasms.Worried about your waifu becoming irrelevant?
>>4884391I guess, a shirou-crafted one is a good idea to test if they explode, even if it does not pass to the original.>>4884393This too.
>>4884376>My mind freezes. My blood freezes. My body freezes. My brain works overtime just trying to figure out the concept of which the weapon was formed. Truth. What... What is Truth? Why can my mind not comprehend it? It's a sword, right? So... why is it that... Why is it that I can't figure out... It's a sword. I feel my body start to seize up, before it comes apart in a show of white light. In that moment, I am liberated from this world. I successfully manage to parse the concept of Truth, and as a result, I cease to be.It appears he ceased to exist because he realized the Truth.I guess there's one question whether this is the same that happened to ELIXIR and the Mirror - that they did comprehend and zero summed, or failed to and broke in the attempt, but in the end they both ceased to exist - we were not left with any shards of the mirror.
>>4884396Testing on Shirou's projections would specifically be good if the original doesn't blow up if concepting breaks it. That would be the point.
>>4884394Sounds good, but not as our first experiment. We could try with something useless, concept a spoon with Taste or something. And if it works, then we try to replace Tamamo's mirror.>>4884395Childish insults is the best argument you have left? Seethe some more.>>4884399Shirou's projections aren't permanent though. It might work on them, and then fail on a normal Noble Phantasm. Artoria's arsenal is better as an experiment, as they are all just normal Noble Phantasms, and she won't mind one breaking.
>>4884371You're forgetting Amaterasu.Also I always saw Touko and Monica as the reliable elder sister type.
>>4884394I'm somewhat bothered by idea of using Tamamo's own skill to have her make base items for things that we'll give for them even if it were mechanically sound. But I like your ideas for the gifts to give her.
>>4884401>childish insults>not one insult. Spot on then?What's a good concept for Nero's sword?Victory?
>>4884405
>>4884401Why it would fail in the normal noble phantasm? the projections are copies, just degraded, they work as the original so if the concept work on then why the fuck it would explode on the original.>>4884405Or the latim word for it.
>>4884410Because they are degraded copies, and Shirou can already mold them. He can turn Caladbolg into an arrow, for example. That's not really possible for a normal Noble Phantasm. Is there a reason not to ask Artoria for a weapon instead?
>>4884411Dude, if they work on a weaker version why the fuck wouldnt it work on the originals?Artoria also works, whatever.
>>4884413...I just explained why it might work on one and fail on the other.
>>4884398Everything that realises the Truth ends up ascending to the dimension above. So Isekaibro's original bedroom now contains a Shirou, giant fuckoff photonic crystal and a mirror
>>4884411>That's not really possible for a normal Noble Phantasm. Literally what CasGil does with his Noble Phantasms, lorelet.>"Broken Phantasm? I have been doing such a thing since over 4,000 years ago!"
>>4884405Don't soil Aestus Estus, please.
>>4884415kek>>4884416Do you think that what Shirou does when he turns Caladbolg from a sword to an arrow is just a normal Broken Phantasm?
>>4884415>implying we even have a house in our original life
>>4884421I know being in a favela sucks brazilfren but it's normal to have a house in other countries.
>>4884415That sounds pretty cool desu. Maybe we should ascend him a waifu as well. Maybe Raikou? People seemed to hate having her around anyway.
>>4884423>Maybe we should ascend him a waifu as well.Thats ELIXIR.
>>4884422I more thinking of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_cafe_refugee
>>4884417If we were to concept her sword, I'd give it something like based on it's original inscription such as Regina Caelorum to double down on her Saver aspects.>>4884425Nobu needs to fix this with mass conscriptions
>>4884428Half these people have jobs, they just can't pay for a house.
>>4884434Thankfully, conscription fixes all their issues. Job AND a free house!
>>4884428I'd prefer Meteoric for her sword, both because it's made from a meteor and the word means...>used to describe something that develops very fast and attracts a lot of attentionIt's perfect for our Emperor.
>>4884439Queen of Heaven Saver scales and contrasts Ammy as the Queen of Takamagahara so they can continue their rivalry
>>4884435China and Korea will be good for cheap housing at least.
Won't America try to stop Nobu if she tries to go full grorius Nippon Empire on China?
>>4884450Why would President Billy want to save the chinks?
When we go to LB6 we should bring an arsenal of nukes to deal with fairies.Fairies are total techlets who need express permission from the queen to even build carriages.Nukes basically kill the land itself so permakilling fairies should be easy.
>>4884454Mash deserves familial happiness with her husband.
>>4884460I want to make England disappear in nuclear hellfire though.
I hope our neglected allies get a chance to shine soon
>>4884507I guess it's hard when we have overpowered allies to work with.
>>4884496Yeah. So many characters, so little time. Character bloat is a curse.
>>4884513>Character bloat is a curse.Rejoice.
>>4884515Rejoice? Rhongomyniad and Tesla were added to the cast because of her, and that's only in the last few updates!
>>4884516That's Manaka's plan. Bloat the cast so much, we can't stop her.
>>4884516She's gonna give us more characters than wormpa and a daughter/son.Tremendously based.
Tally?
>>4884527>>4884001>'I'm... so glad that I managed to save you.'>'But... can you return to human form, or are you trapped like this?'>'Did the application of Endlessness... change anything about you?'>>4884017>"I'm... so glad that I managed to save you.">"I look forward, to saving the world with you.">'Did the application of Endlessness... change anything about you?'>>4884025>>'I'm... so glad that I managed to save you.'>'But... can you return to human form, or are you trapped like this?'>'Did the application of Endlessness... change anything about you?'>"I look forward, to saving the world with you.">>4884067>>4884164>'I'm... so glad that I managed to save you.'>'If you can't take human form again, is there a way I'll be able to see your face again?'>'Did the application of Endlessness... change anything about you?'>'Do you know what happened to Sir Kay? if not for him, neither of us would have made it through that'>>4884167>>4884259>>4884262>>4884310>>4884330>>4884337>>'I'm... so glad that I managed to save you.'>Can you manifest human form at will? If not and you got a taste for it I’m sure we can come up with something, but main thing is you’re with us.> >'Do you know what happened to Sir Kay? if not for him, neither of us would have made it through that'>that said, how do you feel about the changes that happened to you?>>4884291>>4884293>>4884335
>>4884415>Shirou in the "real world">still has UBW>has a cool Japanese legendary mirror with him>has a big cool crystal tooI wonder if WhatIs can run that as a spinoff quest?
>>4884534I feel like shirou would try to get back here, he probably miss his wife.
>>4884540>accepts that he can never go back>breaks down, then gets back up>eventually becomes famous for being a real life superhero>Japan protects the fuck out of him for having a real Japanese myth mirror>eventually has a home somewhere in Japan again, a place to call his own, something like his manor in Fuyuki>>4884541He'd buy as much Saber merch as he couldHe'd play through F/SN and F/HA repeatedly and cry for hours
>>4884546>Shirou>fatNot even in his darkest days did Shirou ever give up the path of /fit/. Depending on where Isekaibro lived before he died, he might have food issues though. That's not mentioning the sheer problems that being without ID, papers, a history, anything to identify you in modern society's system, would cause for Shirou. And that's also not mentioning Isekaibro's family and friends and home state, or the "when" Shirou gets transported there in relation to Isekaibro's death
>>4884543>>accepts that he can never go backThe way in that direction does demonstrably exists within confines of the setting however.
>>4884551But will he keep tracing and UBW?>>4884552So does God contact Shirou at some point, like how he contacted Shinji?
>>4884554Maybe knowledge of the planes would lead Shirou to go on a quest to discover more on the nature if the multiverse while avoiding being put into a loony bin.
Imagine being approached by a character from your work, and asking to be sent back inside or to find a way to be reunited with your loved one.Imagine being told minutiae of your daily life in attempt to determine what parts you have written and which might be a surprise to you.Imagine being confronted with question whether you created a world or only served as a vessel to relay its stories to another.
Imagine posting on 4chan about wanting to save everyone.Imagine fighting back tears every time someone responds by saying "you need to go back"
>>4884573>>4884575Time for Shirou gets a link to Awakening.
This is just basically the plot to Re:Creators.And Re:Creators was fucking terrible.
>>4884580Where did the fad with using "Re:" in title come from?
>>4884581It's a reference to RE: as in E-mail.A response/reply to something.Basically, even in their works of fiction, the Japanese can't avoid thinking about work.
>>4884584That's kind of sad.
>>4884591It is fine.Work sets them free.
>>4884584Fate://Paradox RE;Incarnator
'I'm... I'm so glad that I managed to save you, Rhongomyniad.' You finally allow yourself to celebrate successfully managing to save the personality of the Goddess, and though she may have reverted back to the form of the spear you're currently hugging close to your chest, her personality still exists, so you consider this to be an absolute victory. That with your abilities, you were able to save somebody who by all rights should have been completely erased from existence, if what you saw within the Goddess Rhongomyniad's conceptual world was any indication. You managed to accomplish a true miracle in saving her, and while the application of a concept in general could be called a peerless miracle in terms of power alone, this is the first time where you've felt like the application of a concept could truly be called a Miracle.'Yes, I'm... I'm glad as well, Master. I... will never be able to thank you enough for what you did for me, and I will be forever in your debt.' Rhongomyniad once again reiterates her debt to you, and you don't really know what to make of it. Right now, while she only has the form of a spear, she's... likely less powerful considering she no longer actually has the body of a Goddess to wield her full power with, but at the same time, after having such a powerful concept applied to her, she should have a higher... potential power ceiling? You don't know, honestly. But you're not entirely certain if your admittedly incredible reserves of magical energy will be enough to fully bring the power of Rhongomyniad out to its fullest extent, but then again, with the amount of magical energy that you're capable of processing with your body, you suppose that it's not impossible that you'll at least be able to make a somewhat limited usage of Rhongomyniad. Likely greater than Gray, at least... and tomorrow, when you finally attain a Dragon Core through AlĂtheia's blood and the ritual, you'll likely have even more magical energy available to you than people who also had Dragon Cores all their life! After all, not only do your magic circuits have a strange many-channeled quality to them, but they have also been blessed by a deity of truly unmatched power. That's not even mentioning how much you've been taught by Touko to wield your magical energy with efficiency and grace, meaning that you can squeeze far more effect out of a unit of magical energy than somebody with practically no knowledge about the proper usage of magical energy like Saber would be able to. Despite having something like Mana Burst available to her, Saber insists on wielding her power like a club, which... well, you suppose it works. But she could be far more deadly if she learned to wield her power more surgically, but... well, you don't know if there's anybody who is up to the challenge of teaching Saber about the proper usage of magical energy...
Putting your doubts about your own current power and Rhongomyniad's current state, you decide to keep talking to the woman inside the spear, after all that the two of you've just gone through, you feel a sort of... closeness to Rhongomyniad. You've barely known her for an hour, and already, you'd go through hell to protect Rhongomyniad, just like you'd go through hell to protect any of the people you truly care for, and you know that she's do the same. 'If you... can't take human form once again, will there be a way that I'll be able to see your face again?' You ask the woman inside the spear, and unexpectedly, your answer is barely controlled laughter from a male voice.'S-sir Kay! I do not permit you do laugh at my Master like that!' All of a sudden, Rhongomyniad starts to talk to a third party in your head... or rather, within the spear, and the laughter subsides a bit. Turns out that the man who saved your life within Rhongomyniad's conceptual world somehow survived his erasure, could he have been restored when the concept of Endlessness was applied to Rhongomyniad too? Well, obviously, but having confirmation is always nice.'Oh, come on Rhon, learn to laugh when something is funny.' The voice doesn't really sound like it cares for being scolded, and doesn't really seem all that bothered by not having permission to laugh at you. 'How long have we been linked to one another now anyway? A thousand years? More? Less? I admit, I stopped counting after the fourth century. Wasn't expecting you to ever actually be given a personality... much less save me from Add when that girl broke my vessel...' Sir Kay reveals the reason behind his presence inside the Goddess' conceptual world, just as you expected.'Well, that still doesn't give you the right to laugh at my Master, Sir Kay! We both owe a lot to him, you should understand!' It sounds like the Goddess can barely control Kay, if at all... Funny, it seems that at the core of her being, other than being a spear who was only ever meant to keep the world of reality and the world of fantasy separate, she's managed to absorb a few traits from the woman who originally wielded her.
'Sure, sure. Alright, whatever. Still, didn't he think it was a little silly to be asking about seeing your face again when there's like... half a dozen women all sharing it, Rhon?' Kay asks the Goddess, who has no answer to his response at all. 'I am grateful to you for saving her though, Shinji.' Kay properly addresses you now. 'She saved me from being erased as a result of that girl's actions, and you did the same thing in turn for her... the two of you might be more alike than you realize.' It seems that Rhongomyniad, despite her originally cold and emotionless demeanor, really was an existence that contained a great deal of love and mercy... Could it be that was why it was so much easier for Rhongomyniad to reach a different conclusion to the one you were aware of? Her millennia long link to Sir Kay through Add?'But let's get back on topic, shall we?' Rhongomyniad decides to rejoin the conversation, addressing you directly herself and somewhat ignoring Kay in favor of talking to you. 'You asked me if I could take on a human form again, and... while I might be able to eventually manifest in the form of a Goddess through my own power alone, I... am still weakened thanks to the near complete erasure of my being. It will take a while before my previous divinity recovers to a point I can even try, even with the power you granted me increasing my potential abilities to a level far beyond what they were before' Rhongomyniad reveals to you with a slight tinge of sadness in her voice. 'I'd like to be able to see you again properly too, but for right now... being able to talk with each other like this is a miracle all by itself.' Rhongomyniad reveals that right now it's impossible for her to take a human form again, but the fact that in the future she thinks that taking a human form without even requiring a host at all is possible is enough to instill quite a bit of hope into you.
'Well, I'm glad that we might eventually be able to talk with each other face to face again, Rhon.' You smile a little, trying to ignore the concerned faces still looking down at you, you awkwardly get up, a little sheepish as you do. You can see that Gray is still sleeping on the floor, but you don't get a good enough look at her to see what might've changed about her from the result of her possession by Rhongomyniad. However if the results are anything like what happened when Illya had Ishtar and Ereshkigal removed from her body, then that would make the girl a Goddess in her own right, just like what happened to the homunculus. Still, without a good look at Gray, you can't examine things properly, and with the rest of her own group crowding around the unconscious girl right now, you decide to leave Waver and his crew to deal with Gray... who... hasn't exactly reverted back to the form she had before. While the clothing that was worn by the Goddess Rhongomyniad is gone, in its place is a very poorly fitting black and gray outfit that she must've been wearing originally... Oh dear, at least you bought a great deal of clothing that... with any luck, was far enough away from the battle that it shouldn't have been ruined by the attacks being made. All things considered, other than Tesla's barrage of metal shredding the dining hall, you think things actually went well for your home. Nobody launched an Anti-Fortress attack at your home and reduced it to a smoldering crater, at least... Well... You look at the lance in your hand, despite looking bulky, the spear itself is actually remarkably light, almost as if it were using some of its own power in order to make itself easier to wield. 'A question for you though, Rhon...' You've been wondering something, and with your reserves totally drained, and the only real solution being rest instead of pushing your body too far, you're not exactly capable of using the Eye of Truth for anything other than seeing through Presence Concealment right now.'What's that, Master?' Rhongomyniad is still clearly eager to answer your questions, so you don't hesitate to ask.'The application of Endlessness... did it do anything to you that you're aware of other than... well, save you?' No harm asking, and she's about the best bet you have of finding out what she can do now other than relying on the Eye of Truth to inform you at a later point. Normally, you'd have an almost encyclopedic knowledge on the new capabilities of somebody upon having a concept applied to them, but you suppose that circumstances were definitely far stranger here, so you didn't find out just what the concept ended up doing to the lance.
'Well, other than granting me a form of undeniable existence, stabilizing my being to be one without an end, and thus making me utterly unbreakable and completely impossible to remove from existence, I no longer require something to seal my Mystery in order to maintain an existence, and in fact, I seem to be... actively creating more...' Rhon seems a little bit apologetic about how she's passively leaking mystery out accidentally, but it's fine. AlĂtheia generates a far greater amount accidentally. 'Other than that, as a piercing weapon, I can pierce through even the mightiest of armors and defenses... but I could do that before...' Rhon sounds kind of awkward as she reveals something she could already do, before she focuses again. 'Also, should you be able to call upon my full strength, an attack that will never end until the target is utterly destroyed will be brought about, calling upon the concept of Endlessness, the pillar of light will never cease descending upon whatever it targeted until they no longer existed. It would even follow them through parallel worlds and alternate worlds, and even time itself.' Good grief, that's... terrifyingly powerful! That means that the usage of Rhongomyniad... would ensure a complete destruction of whoever it was used upon? 'But I suppose that if something was able to use an attack of equal strength to the Endless Pillar of Light, then it would be able to counter it...' Rhongomyniad reveals that her seemingly all-powerful attack isn't all-powerful after all. Not to mention that you highly doubt that you'll be able to draw forth the full power of the spear maybe more than once a day, and that's taking into account the fact that by this time, you'll hopefully have a Dragon Core! Goddess I... See. You're a little bit stunned by the power held by the spear now, and though you imagined it would be something ridiculous like this, there's no doubt in your mind that as it exists now, Rhongomyniad is likely a weapon just as powerful, if not greater than Gilgamesh's Enuma Elish! Though you aren't capable of bringing out the full extent of Rhongomyniad's power anyway right now, so that doesn't mean a tremendous amount... yet.
"So... Onii-chan? Are you OK?" Sakura asks as you... crane your head to look down at her...? Wait a second, did you get taller? You look around the room and see that almost everyone is here, everyone with the exception of Josh and his Assassin... Guess they slipped away in the confusion, not that you can blame them. You can't help but reveal a growing smile on your face when you see, sleeping peacefully on one of the remaining usable chairs, Monica. Returned to you at last. Though you realize that she likely still has a potentially hostile Heroic Spirit inside of her, so you can't allow yourself to be too happy just yet. [Status Updated!]"Yeah, I'm... I'm fine." It's a miracle that you are, but you... really are fine. A little confused by the sudden growth spurt, but... fine nonetheless. Now all you can focus on is how to go about the rest of the night, the attack was over, and Manaka had given you an ultimatum. You can either choose to rest now and be well rested for the morning, or take care of a few things before giving into your fatigue.>Just retire to bed.>Take care of Monica, try to wake her up to speak with her.>Recharge your empty reserves of magical energy through a kiss with Sakura.>Start having everyone who is able to help take care of repairing the damage done to the house.>Write-in...
From>Height: 169cmto>Height: 176cmStill long way to go with those dwarf steps.>Truth of Rhongomyniad - Unending Spear that Heralds the End: EX Rank Anti-World Noble Phantasm [WisUp!]>The Legendary Holy Spear Rhongomyniad, in truth, the spear itself is only a terminal point for the true body of the weapon, the Tower of Rhongomyniad, the pillar of light that keeps the world of 'Reality' and 'Fantasy' separated, that is to say, this is the weapon that pins the Texture of the Planet in place, preventing the world from reverting to the Age of Gods.>By invoking the true name of this weapon, a Pillar of Light will be brought forth from the spear, reminiscent of the full form of the Tower that separates the worlds. The Pillar of Light can be brought forth either from the spear itself, or Rhongomyniad can be pointed upwards in order to call down an attack from the heavens.>When used to its maximum power, anything targeted by this spear will surely be destroyed, and the attack will never cease until whatever is targeted is destroyed utterly, without a trace.Finally, a proper spear.
>>4884767KAY LIVES>>4884775We are a giant among men in nipland! Thank fuck it wasn't boobs. And what a great spear. Endless attack, endless chase, she cares about us.
>an attack that will never end until the target is utterly destroyed will be brought about, calling upon the concept of Endlessness, the pillar of light will never cease descending upon whatever it targeted until they no longer existed. It would even follow them through parallel worlds and alternate worlds, and even time itself.' Wow, I wonder where I've seen that before...
Anyway, we don't have time for sleep. Can anyone give an energy boost to all of our allies? We have to start planning now.
>>4884781>giant in nipland
>>4884783Pure coincidence.
>>4884784We should take care of some important things before we sleep, but attacking Manaka with no rest can only end in disaster.>>4884786Taller than even her now.
>>4884772>Thank Sakura for worrying about you.>Recharge your empty reserves of magical energy through a kiss with Sakura.>Thank Medea and the others for bringing Monica back to you unharmed.>Ask Medea to look for Flat. Tell the other Casters to help her.>While they're looking for him, call Alan.First things first. Mana transfer, because you never know when you might need it. Flat is still out there. Manaka may have grabbed him already in all the confusion, but we should at least try to find him. And Alan gave us his number for just such cases as Manaka appearing and cutting the deadline he gave us by days after getting her hands on some Truth blood.
>>4884787Of course, of course.Not the only similarity. Avalon and Love Train are similar too.
>>4884792Eh, with all the people we have here I'd find it odd if we don't have someone that can give everyone here a refresh so we can be at top shape without sleep. Maybe Gil has something like that in his vault? Or some sort of magic?Or are you hoping for another dream conversation?
>>4884801Dream conversation wouldn't be bad, we were hoping to talk to Gaia next. But that's not the reason I want to sleep. No stimulant can substitute for true rest, and relying on means like that for the final dungeon is bound to end up biting us in the ass. We still have a day, we'd better use it in full.
Poor Arthur, he couldn't get to us in time it seems. Its pretty safe to say that he's probably been Altered. I wonder how QM will write him considering his Alter personality was the basis of what gave Stay/Night Gilgamesh his haughty and calling others 'mongrel' persona.
>>4884772>kiss Sakura>confirm that everyone’s safe and in good health>apologize to Tamamo>check on Monica, praise away team for job well done>unfuck Iskandar?We should also arrange for some protections if we still have enough of the house to crash in.
>>4884772Supporting >>4884795 since we can`t let her have Flat too.
>>4884772Take care of Monica, try to wake her up to speak with her.
Why are we calling Allen when god asked us not to talk to outer gods? He asked us to finish Manaka meaning he can't or won't do that. Any deal we strike will him will require a trade.
>>4884795Why do we have to always kiss her? Let's change it up.
>>4884821Because she's the only one we're in a relationship with with an infinite supply of magical energy numbnuts.>>4884819God didn't give us his cell.Alan did.
>>4884772>>4884795Support
>>4884827Let's just have our dragon daughter kiss us on the cheek or hug us. Same thing.
>>4884817Good point.Manaka might be able to make Flat become a Beast.
>>4884812Iskandar can wait, Flat can't. And it may be already too late for him.>>4884819God didn't tell us to cut all contact. Alan was the one who warned us about the six day deadline that just got shortened, and he got our witch wife back. We're not cutting a deal with him, he wants to help defeat Manaka anyway, and Truth is, we could use his help after we saw what Manaka can really do when she gets serious. Even if he can't interfere directly, he could unlock BB and lend us Aife.
>>4884772>Check on everyone>Take care of Monica, try to wake her up to speak with her.>Kiss Monica>Kiss Sakura to replenish magical reserves>Headpat Rhongo
>>4884833Genuine retard.
>>4884772Adding to >>4884812>scary for Flat & recover if possibleI don’t see what the point would be in calling nyarly. To get him to unseal BB?
>>4884839Check his name. He's back.
>>4884772>>4884795+1.Later we should setup a way to concept our allies quickly with extra mana, connected to Alitheia.Who else should we concept?
>>4884840Scry even. Thanks autocorrect.
>>4884833Support but don't head pat rhongo so hard she's kinda sharp.
>>4884841Don't know what thou are talking about it's my first time participating in the quest. I'm in no way related to the underage poster that got banned.
>>4884848Based
>>4884846>>4884848Samefagging again batmong?
>>4884851?
We should do a group kiss with all of our wives and future ones.
>>4884853Come on, tell us again. How old are you?
>>488486035, 36 in December
>>4884861lol
>>4884865?
Calling in 10
>>4884881You'll understand when you're older
>>4884884Shit I don't want to be older
>>4884889Having fun in school?
>>4884891Are you?
>>4884830>His personality and power are so chaotic and increasingly unstable that, in every timeline where Flat does not meet El-Melloi II, he is made a target and eliminated by the Counter Force.That would a disaster equal to Rhongo.Lets hope him not showing up to crash our party too was a sign that Manaka failed to capture him.>>4884842>Who else should we concept?Shirou, Medusa, Medea, Karna, Sasaki and Alcides are easy picks.If Gil agrees so is he. If Alan is cooperative BB could be useful with proper concept. If YHVH is generous concepting Church Rin with holy concept would give good result too.Arc, Satsuki and Tamamo (plus Ammy) are gamble but if we are succesful they are also will be huge boost to our forces.Shuten and Morgan are both dangerous but would get a lot from right concepts too.
>>4884894Why would Arc and Satsuki be a gamble?
>>4884882>>4884772>Thank Sakura for worrying about you.>Recharge your empty reserves of magical energy through a kiss with Sakura.>Thank Medea and the others for bringing Monica back to you unharmed.>Ask Medea to look for Flat. Tell the other Casters to help her.>While they're looking for him, call Alan.>>4884795>>4884817>>4884828>>4884832>>4884842>kiss Sakura>confirm that everyone’s safe and in good health>apologize to Tamamo>check on Monica, praise away team for job well done>unfuck Iskandar?>scry for Flat & recover if possible>>4884840>Check on everyone>Take care of Monica, try to wake her up to speak with her.>Kiss Monica>Kiss Sakura to replenish magical reserves>Headpat Rhongo>>4884833>>4884846
you know, if our test with a NP works.I want to concept gilgamesh and maybe EA
>>4884899>ArcCrimson Moon and Arc`s suppressed bloodlust.>Satsuki She already has limitless potential and don`t have connection to any mythology to grab cheat concepts from. Not giving her the best possible concept or going with smaller ones will be huge waste. But all things considered something like self-realization could backfire on us.I would probably do both out of powergaming sense but we do have things we really need to consider for them and Ammy meeting.
I'm kinda excited for the Amaterasu meeting. She already likes us due to all the Susanoo parallels, and I wanna see what she has to say about this whole situation, even the mirror shatering.How we could make them reconcile with each other is the big question of course.
>>4884925The REAL big question is how to get Amaterasu not to keep us for 30,000 years.
>>4884925Gifting items would help to make her more benevolent to us and might restore Tamamo`s NP.I think we are also safe to assume that current development made her like our Tamamo a bit more due to fact Tamamo managed to get into romantic relationship with us.
>>4884927It depends, if Amaterasu yoinks us pre-Manaka fight, we straight up say that all existence is in danger.If it's post-Manaka (hopefully), we can do a massive bullshit deal. Why should Amaterasu keep Shinji, if he has the potential of becoming a God? Why not let us be and allow our potential to grow, wouldn't it be more satisfying this way?
>>4884927The world is ending right? How does Amaterasu work anyway, where is she? Inside Tamamo, in the past, in another dimension?
>>4884937Amaterasu is 30,000 years ago. She grabs Hakuno and pulls him to her time in Extra. She could decide to keep us, because why would she let us go, we'd spend 30,000 years with her, and we'd still be in time to save the world. If we still remembered how to do it after 30,000 years.
>>4884937She is inside Takamagahara and outside of normal space-time continuity.
>>4884941>>4884948We're a charismatic guy, and with a good plan, I'm sure we can chat with her, and maybe even convince her to accept Tamamo.I'd like to bring Tamamo with us for the chat, so they can discuss with eachother. It'd be kinda hard for an arrangement if they don't talk. Is that possible?
>>4884963Yes, being charismatic is all the more reason for her to decide to keep us fora few thousand years. And no, it's not possible to have Tamamo with us for the chat. Hakuno met her alone.
>>4884971Well that's boring.
Another fun thing we can try is to get inside Sakura`s Vorezone and concept Tiamat.
>>4884992Yeah, you're right mommy Tiamat. Indomitable Sakura should be able to control her Nullification and allow us to safely have a chat with the mother of all life. All she ever wanted was to love her children and be loved by them, she must be happy with her host.>I have nurtured many a life.>Many a life has loved me.>However, my children have used me as a ladder, and they always head to places so far away.>I want to love them forever.>I want to be at their side forever.>Is my love... mistaken?>Please don't leave me behind.>Please never... love me again.Was what she said to the the bland self-insert protagonist of Babylonia.
What's the situation regarding the harem looking right now? Hast the playerbase come to a consensus?
>>4885042So, can we give her a concept that would allow her to exist with us without destroying us?
>>4885052Shinji should be the only person on the planet that she wouldn't destroy, the only one who is not actually her child. I don't think it's possible to let her loose on the world, but she has to be happy living vicariously through Sakura and experiencing the world of her children again, especially now that she'll be a mother. She blessed the union with five children, after all.
>>4885052Check>>4860088>>4860194I think those were pretty good ideas.
>>4884594So does leaping 30 stories out of their office window
>>4884927Yoink her to the present
>>4884927Fuck her. No seriously, dick her down using our Charisma.
>>4885183Don't know how that solves our problems, probably makes it worse
"Thank you for worrying about me so much, Sakura." You smile at Sakura, happy that she's always there to make sure that you're alright, and you take a step towards her before you look down at the large lance still in your hands, you... don't really want to part with it, you don't want to be separated from the personality of the Goddess that now lives within that lance, so you don't hesitate to reach out mentally to the weapon in your hands to speak to Rhongomyniad once again. 'I can't exactly explain it, but I... don't exactly want to put you down, Rhon... is there a way for us to remain linked even should I be forced to put you away somewhere?' You ask the goddess in the spear, who laughs at hearing you.'You don't want to let me go, Master? I understand, I don't want to be apart from you either, so... allow me to take care of this...' Suddenly, the lance in your hand disintegrates into motes of golden light, which seem to flow into your arm as the spear is stored within you. 'There we go, that should take care of things for now. Whenever you want to wield me, or... talk to me, you need only call out, and I will always be there to answer you, no matter what. That is my choice.' Rhongomyniad really does seem to have decided to take this endless debt thing way too seriously, you don't really consider what you did for her to be something that she'd need to serve you for eternity for, but then again, you suppose that she almost certainly wouldn't see it that way. You saved Rhongomyniad from being utterly erased from existence, her entire personality was mere instants away from obliteration, but just before that moment, you managed to save her completely. So it's really quite easy for you to see just how she might've come to the conclusion that eternal servitude was the only way to pay you back for what you did. While you feel bad for Rhongomyniad, you suppose that she does at least seem happy to have become your weapon, so it's... not all bad. Besides, it seems like she has some confidence in her ability to eventually be able to take a humanoid form once again at some point in the future.'Thank you again, Rhon.' You thank your new weapon as you feel the sensation of the holy artifact of near unparalleled power embedded within your right arm. It's a strange sensation, but not one that is uncomfortable, just... different. A reminder that you now contain Rhongomyniad within you, and that you can draw forth the power of the legendary spear whenever you wanted.
Now, with the spear in your hands dismissed and stored away, you're free to act as you please, and so you do, slowly walking up to Sakura with a faint blush on your cheeks. Already, Sakura knows just what it is that you intend, and your faint blush is mirrored by one of her own. She smiles softly as you approach. "Sakura..." You say the name of the girl quietly as you press your lips together, exchanging magical energy through saliva, and rapidly restoring your overtaxed magic circuits to their maximum again, though you can't keep up the sort of stuff you've been doing through the night like this. The amount of stress would almost certainly end up in an actual mental breakdown if you didn't at least plan a rest at some point, you've... also still got that promise to Medea that you intend to hold up... You and Sakura kiss each other for what feels like almost an entire minute as the rest of the room gawks at the display of brother-and-sister affection being taken to a degree that's quite a bit beyond the norm, but who cares. You love Sakura, and if they've got a problem with that, they can take it up with you... or Sakura, if they actually want to die, you suppose. You break off the kiss long after your reserves are already filled with Magical Energy again, and give your sister a seductive smirk when the kiss ends.With that out of the way though, you turn to look at Medea. Thankfully the team that was sent to capture Tesla seem to have met with a great deal of success. There were no casualties... not that there was a possibility for anybody on that team asides from Medea on the team to get permanently hurt, and having captured their target. Monica is thus safe, but unconscious. Another thing you notice is that... Scáthach and Vritra are looking at you strangely right now, Arcueid looks genuinely impressed, and Ciel and SHIKI just look worried about something, you have no idea what that might be though. "Medea! Everyone! Thank you so much, I'm so glad that you could bring Monica back to me unharmed. She... she didn't deserve to be used as a puppet by Manaka. She doesn't deserve that at all." You feel a great weight lifted off of you as you stare at Monica's face. No longer would you have to worry about what Manaka might do to those you cared about. The only people that Manaka has left in her employ are Bazett and Cu, and while you care about the two of them... you've... never really interacted with either of them all that much. So... while you want to save the two of them you can't really call it a massive priority. That's not to say that you won't save the two if you can, though.
You'll deal with Monica properly momentarily, though with Tesla presumably Rule Broken, you doubt that he'll attack even if he were to wake up and realize where he was. No longer under the control of Manaka, and with his own host, Tesla should be more than capable of remaining in this world without a Master, though... you can't see their status just by looking at them, and you realize that at some point, the Golden Eye of Truth... had been deactivated. It's no longer glowing brightly, and now simply looks like an exceptionally strange form of heterochromia, rather than something supernatural. You could easily activate it once again, but a passive drain on your magical energy that you aren't certain how to disable isn't exactly something desirable, especially not for a Servant who has already been defeated. You'll just take a closer look when Monica... or Tesla, or whoever is in control of the body, is awake."It's... really nothing, Shinji. In fact, it was... surprisingly easy, all things considered..." Medea shrugs. "After Arcueid shut off the source of their powers, they were too stunned to do much else other than stand still before I struck them with Rule Breaker... the battles that took place here were... far more interesting." Arcueid looks excessively prideful at the ease of which she must've been able to defeat Tesla, and a part of you feels just a little bit bad for having absolutely no mercy for Tesla when it came to choosing somebody to deal with him. Somebody who could straight up turn electromagnetism off in the area is really just an unfair opponent for somebody who can only attack with electromagnetism."Well, all things considered, I'm glad that it worked out alright... we had a little more difficulty here, as you might be able to tell." You gesture around at your ruined dining hall, the arm wrestling tournament is obviously going to need to wait until after the war for a conclusion. But that's alright. "However, there's no time for us to rest right now, I need you to look for a boy called Flat Escardos, immediately. I want all of the Casters to help look for him too. Ask Waver over there to help you look for him, he ought to have a much more solid image of Flat than I do." Letting Flat fall into Manaka's hands may end up being a true disaster. You remember somewhere that he has the potential to class as an Evil of Humanity that is required to be killed by the Counter Force if he doesn't meet Waver in life.
"Alright, Shinji. I'll do that right away." Medea sounds a little disappointed by the way that the night is turning out, but you can't really blame her for feeling that way. You just wanted to relax, but here you are. You're lucky that you can regenerate perfectly, otherwise this stress would likely ended up causing you all sorts of long term health problems. As the Casters all shuffle into a corner to begin their search after Waver reluctantly leaves Gray's side, you sigh. Then you sigh again, more deeply this time, and take your phone out of your pocket.You dial the number you hadn't really counted on needing to actually use, and tap your foot impatiently as you wait for the phone to be answered. And of course after a few dials it is. As the phone is answered, you can hear a friendly sounding voice on the other side of the line. "Oh! Shinji! You alright there, buddy? I noticed some stuff going down over at your house, and thought of coming to help out... but then I saw you had it covered, what's up?" You know, for an Outer God, Nyarlathotep is really too kind when he deals with you, it makes it kind of too obvious that it's an act. Or... well, less an act, but you know for a fact that he wouldn't be talking with other people like this.>"I need your help.">"I need you to give BB her power back.">"I need you to tell me everything you know about Manaka's powers.">"Is there any way you can help me become stronger?">Write-in...
>>4885275jannie moment
Where even is BB?Would her powers be useful here anyway? What can she do?
>>4885323https://youtu.be/BFX2hCenzwI
>>4885307>"How much are you aware of? Because while we were able to thwart most of the attacks, it appears Manaka succeeded in a goal she set for herself and secured some of my blood.">"She appeared convinced she would be able to put her plan in motion by tomorrow night.">"Is there anything you could tell me about what this could mean, aside from obvious shortening of time limit?"
>>4885307>>4885329
>>4885307this>>4885329
>>4885307Support >>4885329
>>4885329maybe mention to put it on speaker then tell Aife her sister is here.
>>4885338Doesn't sound like the best idea when we're preparing for the final dungeon.
>>4885339So you want Scat not distracted after potentially having scryed kino fight scene where we solo'd a goddess before even having a single moment of her training
NTR!log anon, thoughts on adding mentioning Scat to Aife as well?
>>4885346A valid point. I withdraw my objection. We should absolutely tell him that.Damnit nigger, stop deleting your post!
>>4885351I'LL FUCKING DO IT AGAIN
>>4885327I thought Kingprotea was the big one. Although it makes sense BB would be stronger than her Alter Egos.
>>4885358lollmao
>>4885307>>4885329supporting Niggerman's addition >>4885338
>>4885360Making a new one usually makes it easier for people to switch.
>>4885307changing>>4885331to>"How much are you aware of? Because while we were able to thwart most of the attacks, it appears Manaka succeeded in a goal she set for herself and secured some of my blood.">"She appeared convinced she would be able to put her plan in motion by tomorrow night.">"Is there anything you could tell me about what this could mean, aside from obvious shortening of time limit?">also, put me on speaker for a moment, I wanted to mention something to Aife quickly>Mention to Aife her sister is here with you, pass the phone to Scáthach if she's interested
>>4885307>>4885365this works?>>"This concerns your Servant as well, could you put it on speaker for her?">>"So, how much are you aware of? Because while we were able to thwart most of the attacks, it appears Manaka succeeded in a goal she set for herself and secured some of my blood.">>"She appeared convinced she would be able to put her plan in motion by tomorrow night.">>"Is there anything you could tell me about what this could mean, aside from obvious shortening of time limit?">>"By the way, Aife, you may be interested in knowing Scathach is with us"
>>4885359what
>>4885307Switch >>4885337 to >>4885368
>>4885369Sorry based NTR/log anon, but I like the nigger's version of that part better. All Aife needs to know is that her sister is here, not any of the other stuff.
>>4885307>>4885329>>4885360Let's go with this >>4885368
Calling in 15.
>>4885307>>4885368+1
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>>4885307"I need you to give BB her power back
Hey vorechad, if you're around.This might be right up your alley.https://youtu.be/7ZhrOnxbccY
>>4885397>>4885307>"How much are you aware of? Because while we were able to thwart most of the attacks, it appears Manaka succeeded in a goal she set for herself and secured some of my blood.">"She appeared convinced she would be able to put her plan in motion by tomorrow night.">"Is there anything you could tell me about what this could mean, aside from obvious shortening of time limit?">>4885332>"How much are you aware of? Because while we were able to thwart most of the attacks, it appears Manaka succeeded in a goal she set for herself and secured some of my blood.">"She appeared convinced she would be able to put her plan in motion by tomorrow night.">"Is there anything you could tell me about what this could mean, aside from obvious shortening of time limit?">also, put me on speaker for a moment, I wanted to mention something to Aife quickly>Mention to Aife her sister is here with you, pass the phone to Scáthach if she's interested>>4885368>>4885385>>4885391>>4885406>>4885414"I need you to give BB her power back>>4885417
Now i want a interlude of how each person reacted to our kiss with sakura.
>>4885541Monika collection squad post teslabattle scrying would be more kino, with 5 way commentary
>>4885546why not both
>>4885546This
>>4885551yes please this
"Just how much are you aware of, Alan? Because while we were able to thwart most of the attacks tonight, it appears that Manaka succeeded in a goal she set for herself, and managed to secure some of my blood." You are deeply troubled by Manaka's prioritization of a sample of your blood. You don't know just what the girl is after with your blood, but seeing as it was able to be used as the primary material in the creation of somebody as powerful as AlĂtheia is, you know that whatever Manaka is plotting with your blood simply cannot be good news for you... or likely reality as a whole."Yeah, I saw. It's... not something I saw coming, would you believe it? Things tend to get a little... blurry, whenever you're involved, you know?" Alan sounds just a tiny bit frustrated as he speaks. "As for how much I'm aware of, do you really have to ask that question?" Alan sounds disappointed in you for feeling the need to ask him something so blatantly obvious. Of course he already knows everything that happened, this is Nyarlathotep's human host on Earth, after all. It would be stranger if he wasn't aware of everything that had gone down at your house. "Yes, I saw everything, from your attempt at betraying the Goddess, to enrapturing the heart of that same Goddess through doing battle with a hundred of her finest knights, culminating in defeating her in single combat and saving her from having her existence erased... you seemed to have everything covered, anyway." Alan sounds fairly uninterested in your incredible feat, but then he speaks loudly, almost as if he wanted somebody to overhear. "I never would've expected a living human to be able to defeat a true Goddess like that." You know, if winks were something that could be audibly discerned through a phone call, you're pretty sure you'd hear one right now."Right, well... she appeared convinced that something about her getting hold of my blood would allow her to put her plan in motion by tomorrow night, and I'm assuming that you're aware of this too?" You want to know just what the girl might be after. "I am indeed aware of that, yes. I can only imagine that she's going to try to use your blood as a catalyst for her plans. You... You're aware that she's wielding those pages that are capable of altering reality to her whim, I take?" Alan draws your attention to the pages that keep popping up. In order to almost entirely erase Goddess Rhongomyniad, all Manaka had to do was burn a single page, and... you're hoping that's really something that she could only do with the Servants under her control..."Yes, I know what she tried to do to Rhongomyniad with one of those pages." You still remember the bored expression in Manaka's eyes as she condemned the tremendously powerful Goddess to death without a second thought. She merely saw a traitor, and so she disposed of her without hesitating. There wasn't a single regret in Manaka's actions as she attempted to obliterate Rhongomyniad.
"Well, expect her to be able to do... much worse now." Alan sighs, and not for the first time, you feel worried. If even an Outer God seems wary of Manaka's power, then just how much of a threat does she truly represent? You knew that she was some sort of multiversal threat, but if even Nyarlathotep is starting to sound wary of her abilities..."What... do you mean?" You decide to ask just what Alan is referring to, it's more important that you find out just how she's going to be becoming more powerful. Could your blood really be such a bad thing for Manaka to have gotten her grubby mitts on? Well... it stands to reason..."Your blood, it contains fractions of your power, the power inherent to you and those descended of you... not that you have any descendants, asides from AlĂtheia." Alan reveals something about your blood, and you had already gathered this much from the existence of AlĂtheia in the first place. "Of course it is purest in you and you alone, so... my current theory is that the girl wishes to use your blood to pen a book of her own design.""A... book of her own design?" You ask Nyarlathotep for some clarification, you're wondering where he's going with this. You want to know just where the relevance of pages and books is coming from, though you've already started to put things together in your head, and you're really only waiting for Nyarlathotep to confirm what you already think that you know."That's right, while she's been making do with those copies of that ridiculous spell book thus far, she's seen her opportunity to create her own, and... she's taking it. There's no telling just what sort of powers such a creation would hold, but... even I, an avatar of an Outer God, am wary of the creation of such an artifact. I could feasibly see such a weapon having..." Alan sighs again, before he speaks once more. "...Unlimited control over all aspects of reality, if she is allowed to complete it." Alan's voice is carefree... mostly, but his words are truly dire. He's clearly more bothered about this than he's actually letting on."Then... do you know how long we have?" You decide to rely on Alan's superior knowledge when it comes to things like how much time you have left until the end of reality, as an Outer God, he should have some knowledge of things."She needs to prepare to start writing it, and I'm not certain how long it would take to pen such a book. It could take hours, days or weeks, but... the moment she begins to write that book, I fear for the stability of reality." Oh, that's... fantastic. An Outer God is telling you that they fear for the stability of reality, this is really messed up. "Then... do we have hours or days?" Might as well try to figure out if Manaka was bluffing or not about that deadline she gave you.
"I can't tell that." Alan sounds annoyed, like a child for the first time being denied something, he's clearly growing more and more frustrated with Manaka and her abilities as time goes on. You feel the exact same way at this point. "Just... prepare for the worst, for tomorrow, because I can ensure you that it will come. Spend what little time you have resting and preparing." Alan speaks with a serious tone. "If you're serious about saving this world, and of the people within it, you'll follow my advice on that." The Outer God that spreads chaos, destruction, fear and death is advising you on how to defeat your enemy."Well, if that's all you've got to say, would you mind putting me on speaker?" You want to take care of one last thing before you take care of the rest of business for tonight. "Aife is nearby, right?" You inquire as the whereabouts of Alan's Servant."She's just in the other room, actually. Done." You can hear Alan's voice clearly through the receiver, and you then speak clearly into the phone. "Aife. If you can hear me, I'd like to speak to you about... your sister." You mention Alan's Servant by name, and you can hear a brief fumbling of the handset, before you receive your response."My sister? What do you want to talk to me about that harlot for?" Oh. That's not the greatest response to being made aware of the presence of a sister.>"She's here. I thought you might appreciate a chat.">"How would you feel about making up with her?">"Do you want her to help you in disciplining a dog?">Hang up. There's too much on your mind right now to bother with this phonecall.>Write-in...
At this point if feels like we'll only win by her underestimating us and fucking up.
>>4885541>>4885546Both of these yes.>>4885630>"Well I recently buster her out of her retirement home, and I have it on good authority that a very uppity dog you both know is running around shitting in peoples yards.">"And I was just wondering if you would like some help in disciplining said dog. If you don't mind helping with the one holding his leash."
We shouldn't rely on Alan for critical things. Just use a concept to help BB. It makes her more powerful, increases her loyalty, and we can trust our power more then Alan.Maybe give a concept to Arc to help her control her abilities. Not sure if the simple concept of control will help her.
>>4885648What about inversing what Alan's powers would do for her?
>>4885647busted*
>>4885647Ha I love the retired home reference. Probably will pay for it when we get her boot camp.
>>4885630>Yeah I popped into the Land of Shadows on a whim and invited her here to wrangle her stray dog and a certain schizophrenic goddess you both might be familiar with. >Try not to kill them if you can manage it, I do consider the host of the goddess and Setanta as friends in a way. Just be aware they've been made considerably stronger than you might remember due to Manaka's influence.>Here, I'll pass the phone over, you two can go sort them out yourselves if you'd like. I'm busy with bigger problems right now.
>>4885659Meh, she'd make it hell for us anyways, what changed?
>>4885630>>4885660Support
>>4885630>>4885647if my joke can be added I'll throw it in with this>>4885660
>>4885630>>4885660+1.
>>4885630>>4885660+1, please add in the retirement home joke too, somehow
>>4885625>"Your blood, it contains fractions of your power, the power inherent to you and those descended of you... not that you have any descendants, asides from AlĂtheia." Alan reveals something about your blood, and you had already gathered this much from the existence of AlĂtheia in the first place. "Of course it is purest in you and you alone, so... my current theory is that the girl wishes to use your blood to pen a book of her own design.">"That's right, while she's been making do with those copies of that ridiculous spell book thus far, she's seen her opportunity to create her own, and... she's taking it. There's no telling just what sort of powers such a creation would hold, but... even I, an avatar of an Outer God, am wary of the creation of such an artifact. I could feasibly see such a weapon having..." Alan sighs again, before he speaks once more. "...Unlimited control over all aspects of reality, if she is allowed to complete it." Alan's voice is carefree... mostly, but his words are truly dire. He's clearly more bothered about this than he's actually letting on.>"She needs to prepare to start writing it, and I'm not certain how long it would take to pen such a book. It could take hours, days or weeks, but... the moment she begins to write that book, I fear for the stability of reality." Oh, that's... fantastic. An Outer God is telling you that they fear for the stability of reality, this is really messed up.GUYSTHE BOOK IN OUR VISIONSTHE BOOK WHERE WE WROTE IN THE TWO ARIA LINES
>>4885692Oh.....OF FUCKING COURSE THAT IS WHAT IT MEANT! THE BITCH HAS A BOOK OF CREATION FOR THIS UNIVERSE AND WE PUT OUR LINES IN IT, SHE MIGHT JUST FUCKING JACK OUR SHIT!
>>4885692She could have also just summoned nursery rhyme and cracked up the volume
This book shit just reminds me of the "book of eras" or something from the jackie chan cartoon.>>4885692Also that, i remember that.
I wonder if Manka watches Shinji 24/7? She knew how to counter the changes we made throughout the day. The only way she's know of those changes would be when characters used the power. She can't spy in what we do in conceptual worlds right?Alan I guess sensed shit was going down and looked or he's watching constantly as a outer god.
>>4885692When that fucking sleep event happened, there were two other doors with Manaka's behind one, and either God or the other Manaka in the other, I think it was the crossroads we grabbed that third option being the Book, Manaka probably got the damn book because she was watching our dream when we put our shit in it.....Clever Girl.>>4885721She had too, somehow, know when we touched the book in the first place, she didn't have the damn thing before that!
>>4885778Pretty sure that was the one where we choose the door with Alaya. You're thinking of the dream that took place in a library where we decided if we wanted to tear out a page read the book or write in the book.
>>4885721Perverted ass little girl
>>4885721Also does this mean Manaka saw us fuck Sakura in the shower?
>>4885828What a Lewd loli, we should use that to distract her if needed.
>>4885836Rub it her face that Arthur wouldn't willing fuck her like we fuck our sister? Sounds like a good way to get her salty.
>>4885844>"did you like watching me impregnate my sister? Your goddamn voyeur.">"you will never have this, not without needing mind control.">"nobody will ever love you."
>>4885848>"REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE, FUCK YOU!""You wish don't you, not gonna happen for you though."
>>4885848>>4885849Wait, I can make it better>"REEEEEEEE, MY HUSBANDO LOVES ME, FUCK YOU!""Your husbando is a toy, me fucking you is more than you deserve you basement dwelling loser."Because that is what she is right now.
>>4885848>gets cucked by her sister >jerks off to seeing her worst enemy consummate his relationship with his beloved >constantly losing servants to ShinjiI can't think of anything more cucked than being Manaka
>>4885887>Basement dwelling loser>Smells bad because zombie, and uses magic to cover it up>Steals literal book of husbandos and waifus>Has to brainwash them into service>Compared constantly to the Chad Shinji, who fucks his sister and gains allies faster than he eats or drinks>Wishes she could be a waifu for her version of King Arthur>Gets killed by him because she is too much of a bitch, never gets to have kids>Sends assassins to kill everyone Shinji knows, especially the kids>Being Manaka is suffering, her younger self is a bitch too, can't even handle the sum of all evil.>Was she always such a weak bitch, why must she suffer like this.>At least I got my magic book and that jerks blood, nobody can laugh at me now! >Everything is gonna come up Manaka, I just know it.>So what if Shinji saved more losers again, I just gotta win!Little does the bitch know, she fucked up. And is fast approaching being cucked up.
>>4885630Support >>4885660
>>4885787....can Manaka survive spying on Alaya when she communicates with us?
>"Your blood, it contains fractions of your power, the power inherent to you and those descended of you... not that you have any descendants, asides from AlĂtheia."Speaking about who saw what, looks like our pal Nyarly respected our privacy too much to peek.
>>4885913Unless he's lying and knows anyways.
>>4885915Wouldn't he use some innuendo to tease us if he knew?
>>4885917Would he give enough of a fuck to make a joke about us fucking our sister without an audience?
>>4885917Don't know about you but I would get violently mad if someone spied on me having sex with my girlfriend
>>4885921Why wouldn't he? He's not some stand-up comedian to require a big audience to make a joke.>>4885922And that's why our pal Nyarly didn't peek.
>>4885927Yeah, but sometimes a peanut gallery can make the punchline funnier. Or he knows so many inbred jokes he is having trouble narrowing the list down, if not outright taking his time to make a new one perfect for the situation. Or he doesn't care because we aren't actually related.>>4885922Too human a response to a literal alien god.
>>4885934Or, he doesn't know.
>>4885942He obviously knows, but shinji doesn't know so why spoil the surprise. And it's better we don't get distracted from more pressing matters.
>>4885942That too, oh, Sakura eats magic around her, could he even see us with her?
>>4885949He admitted that things get blurry around us. It's possible that he couldn't see at all when we were... this close to her, yes.
>>4885951So Sakura has pseudo anti scry field huh? Can Manaka see through it either than? My jokes calling her a mouthbreathing neckbeard fall flat if she couldn't watch.
>>4885956I don't know anon. Sakura is a bane to all things magical, but we don't know if that extends to a field around her. We should ask Medea to confirm. Medea told us she knew what happened in that bathroom, but she probably just saw us walk in instead of watching the full show. And it'd be a tremendously useful ability to have now that we know Manaka is working to specifically counter our preparations. If nothing else, a Nullification dome might be enough to keep her guessing.>>4885961>Now, with the spear in your hands dismissed and stored away, you're free to act as you please, and so you do, slowly walking up to Sakura with a faint blush on your cheeks. Already, Sakura knows just what it is that you intend, and your faint blush is mirrored by one of her own. She smiles softly as you approach. "Sakura..." You say the name of the girl quietly as you press your lips together, exchanging magical energy through saliva, and rapidly restoring your overtaxed magic circuits to their maximum again, though you can't keep up the sort of stuff you've been doing through the night like this. The amount of stress would almost certainly end up in an actual mental breakdown if you didn't at least plan a rest at some point, you've... also still got that promise to Medea that you intend to hold up... >"Just... prepare for the worst, for tomorrow, because I can ensure you that it will come. Spend what little time you have resting and preparing." Alan speaks with a serious tone. "If you're serious about saving this world, and of the people within it, you'll follow my advice on that." The Outer God that spreads chaos, destruction, fear and death is advising you on how to defeat your enemy.I would not recommend storming the temple now.
>>4885964If we say, grabbed our group going in wrapped in Sakura's Null field, and our mages doing anti scrying outside to fuck with her, she wouldn't know what or who we bring in. Baring Sakura, as it's hard to miss her when she makes a hole in that thick magic area. But this changes things dramatically.
>>4885967We know Manaka's scrying can be blocked. Merlin did it yesterday in the forest. Sakura is more powerful than him, and if she can do it too now that the flowery futamancer got himself crippled, it does change things dramatically. Definitely worth exploring the possibility.
>>4885971We could maybe use Merlin's crippled as and some fast back up with him to set up bait traps to drag scrying abilities towards, like forcing a video loop by switching the camera. And anyone with a good riding skill can do it.
>>4885974Good idea to bring up with him. But why risk someone with riding skill when we can just have Betty make some more cute abominations to carry those traps around?
>>4885975Meh that's true, but I'd rather use Merlin as live bait...
>>4885913>>4885915>>4885917Maybe he doesn't want to spoil the surprise. Shinji doesn't know IC, only Sakura seems to.Avoided drinking at dinner, there was another thing that I'm forgetting too.
>>4885630Supporting >>4885660
>>4885630sounds good >>4885660
So can we fuck medea now?
>>4886084Probably not. We'll need to squeeze in some power napping in between finalizing powerups for everyone. One of them will be fondling her most intimate parts so at least there'll be that.I'm not thrilled about postponing the attack now that manaka has new toys but we probably need the extra preparations more than she needs time to paint the world with our blood.We should probably confer with casters including Merlin and the human magi about what might be awaiting us in Manaka's domain because of all this clusterfuck of her own superpowers, her bounded fields and her remaining blacked servants. Also with Taigalaya if she has any worthwhile input on the matter.We'll also want to have the Kur set up somehow, and probably bolstered with our own superior Truth to keep it from being hacked by the bootleg variant.
>>4886088Other things we should do to prepare:Ask the Casters (+Touko, I'm counting her as one of them) if Sakura's Nullification is enough to block Manaka's scrying, or if they can set something up. Manaka can't counter what she doesn't know.Ask Tamamo to upgrade the Tamamophones and make enough stickers for everyone.Ask Alaya for reinforcements.Ask Waver for the True Names of their servants. We only identified Raikou and Perseus, iirc, so that leaves four unaccounted for.Tell everyone everything we know about Manaka's servants, the Manakas and their powers, Angra Mainyu, the grail mud, grail corruption, etc. They'll need that information to make decisions for themselves if we end up separated like we did at grandpa's.Hand out concepts like candy. Ask Sakura if she's confident she can control her Nullifcation so we can have a chat with Tiamat and concept her too.
>>4886103Why would the casters know what Manaka is capable of? They've never met her or anyone on her level. She basically warps reality with her book. So what's the question? Can Sakura resist a reality warper?
It feels like after we beat Manaka there's going to be nothing that will ever be able to threaten us again.
>>4886113Merlin was able to block her scrying yesterday.
>>4886114Lostbelt dabbing stress relief. Most people return to enjoying their second chance at life while Shinji goes planeswalking with his spearwife to get away from parental obligations .https://youtu.be/BdrCXiUg-tU
>>4886116I think it was less block and more trick.It also didn't save him from getting shivved.
>>4886118You're forgetting our plans to take over the world.>>4886119It doesn't matter how it worked, only that it did. Manaka was just as blind as the rest of us about what was going on in the forest. Merlin and the others would be dead pretty much immediately if she could pinpoint their exact location from the start.
>>4886113Well they can compare notes on what they just saw and what implications might be for her gaining bootleg variant of our own powers.
>>4886118Solving the Lostbelts and Singularities sounds an awful lot like bullying weaklings for us.How exactly is any villain supposed to survive Tusk Act IV spear?
>>4886125..solving?
>>4886114I'm sure there's enough world ending possibilities to be threatening to go around.And I'm pretty sure we're going to end up being at least partially responsible for creating some of them.
>>4886127>I'm sure there's enough world ending possibilities to be threatening to go around.The vamps who are planning the Aylesbury ritual is a pretty massive one. Those idiots ended up draining magic from the world in the extraverse. The yankees are also planning their own Grail Ritual, but permakilling Prelati the day after tomorrow should fix that. And even if it's not world threatening, taking over the world will bring us into conflict with magical glowniggers. We shouldn't get overconfident, it'll be bad enough if they can pull off a single successful assassination.
>>4886126But are there any actual threats?Tiamat already kneels to us.
>>4886137Shinji isn't so tough without a 70 odd servant faction and a bunch of divine buffs.Him alone gets bodied by a competent melee servant if he doesn't take it seriously or gets ambushed.
>>4886131Why were we even going to conquer the world anyway?I mean there is Mordred who volunteered us to claim her throne, but I fail to see how ruling the world is any of our business. I’d rather just retire with the family and only deal with shit that threatens the planet, or maybe go on adventure when one of our friends ask us for help.
>>4886141>ruling the world is any of our businessWe won't be ruling the world ourselves. But we have a lot of kings who'd very much like to recreate their kingdoms, and we'd like to avoid them triggering WW3. Retiring with the family will be much less pleasant if we have to live in a radioactive wasteland.
>>4886142We can set up a ritual to transmute nuclear warheads into jello to prevent the apocalypse.
>>4886147Literal magic?>>4886139We're getting Servant level stats and a dragon core tomorrow courtesy of the daughter.
>>4886147Why would we need nukes for that? Torch drives don’t require fissile material. With power of money we can just launch a corporate space program. And we can probably go full spell jammer at the end of the day, anyway.
>>4886145We can't let war rage across the planet and do nothing, no matter how tempting an early retirement would be. We need to shape the coming Age of Truth, not let the Kings do it for us. Once more into the breech. Just a little patience, it'll all be over in less than a decade, and we'll semi-retire forever.
So who are genuine threats to us in Lostbelts/Singularities?Goetia? Tiamat(?)? Mara? Rhon(again)? Kiara? Surtur?God Arjuna? Qin? Zeus? Chaos? Alien God? LB Morgan?Do we have any strategies for dealing with them all?
>>4886171Whatever happens we're erasing Mara from existence.This is non negotiable. Demon God bodyjacks Sakura and uses her body to slut about in a bid to destroy existence. Fucking kill her.
>>4886181A man after my own heart. Yes, Kama deserves only to be erased. What he did to that Sakura is inexcusable, and so are the people who see no problem with it. I only hope there's enough of Sakura left in there that we can save her.Douman deserves to be erased too. I'd like to make him suffer first, but he'd probably get off on that.
>>4886181Also to make things worse, the God Mara is a male.Sakura is being used by a LARPing tranny god to pretend to be female.I want to give it the Roa treatment. Reach into the Root and erase their record entirely.
Well murdering the cunt FGO characters will be fun but we should focus on empowering our allies right now.I think it's time.We need to meet Amaterasu.
>>4886217I'd be a little more concerned if our speciality wasn't convincing people to work with us.We'll talk with Tamamo, get some prep done and jump in there.
>>4886219That's horribly overconfident when dealing with Ammy.Good way to get ourselves either vored or turned into her pet.
Can't wait to fuck Morrigan up and wrap this Manaka fiasco up. i wanna move on from fucking fuyuki already. the moon, clocktower, fgo, take me anywhere but here.
>>4886281If all else fails we find the cafe where Neco-Arc resides and beg for her help agains the Manaka menace. Emphasize that there will be no more carnivals unless Neco Arc does something about Manaka.
>>4886305Here!>>4885630>"Well I recently buster her out of her retirement home, and I have it on good authority that a very uppity dog you both know is running around shitting in peoples yards.">"And I was just wondering if you would like some help in disciplining said dog. If you don't mind helping with the one holding his leash.">>4885647>>4885811>Yeah I popped into the Land of Shadows on a whim and invited her here to wrangle her stray dog and a certain schizophrenic goddess you both might be familiar with. >Try not to kill them if you can manage it, I do consider the host of the goddess and Setanta as friends in a way. Just be aware they've been made considerably stronger than you might remember due to Manaka's influence.>Here, I'll pass the phone over, you two can go sort them out yourselves if you'd like. I'm busy with bigger problems right now.>>4885660>>4885665>>4885681>>4885688>>4885811>>4885896>>4885950>>4886026>>4886076
Oh hey, it's the quest's first birthday!
>>4886354Happy birthday! Hope you're having as much fun with the Quest as we are!
>>4886354https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoT9qVxuL-UFestival.
>>4886354Year of more or less consistent, continuous running (aside from the pause). Very impressive, especially with four digit post counts per thread.
>>4886354https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyFQVZ2h0V8
>>4886354Your quest shares its date of birth with Sonic and SCP. The unholy trinity of autism
>>4886444What do you mean there is nothing wrong with SCP.
>>4886448Anon...As a 9 year old SCP veteran, I assure you that the site's history is FULL of turbo autism. LOLfoundation, the 2018 mass exodus, just earlier this year one of the oldest site members went full tranny mode and demanded the complete deletion of two fucking hundred skips.
>>4886444As much as it pains me to ever admit ignorance in anything...What is SCP?
>>4886457http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/
