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It is a time of peace. With Lord Freeza’s explosive declaration, naming himself Emperor of the Universe after single-handedly obliterating the Covenant stronghold High Charity, peace has come to the universe. Not wanting to stand against him and his unstoppable Super Saiyans, within days of his declaration the universe bent the knee. And while there are always outliers, those stubborn or foolish enough to try and resist, the overwhelming majority of the universe is bending the knee. And he wouldn’t have achieved all this, defeated the strongest military in the universe and survived the Prophet’s ultimate weapon without your help.

Welcome to Saiyan Conqueror Quest, the story of an alternate timeline in the greater Dragonball EU. Currently it is Age 749 and you the players control Karn: once an ordinary Saiyan warrior with a meager powerlevel of 2,830 who has risen to become a mighty Super Saiyan, and so much more. Throughout your many adventures, the “Dragon of New Salda” has grown into the symbol of Saiyan might and power recognized actoss the universe. Now as a PTO general with a powerlevel of over 48 million, and close friend and confidant of Lord Freeza himself, Karn has become his people’s greatest champion.

Character sheets and other info:
https://pastebin.com/u/GrandDragonQM
Archive:
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?searchall=Saiyan+Conqueror+Quest

Quest rules are as follows:
>30 minute voting windows from post time
>Pick ONE option when voting(unless otherwise noted)
>Dice rolls are all best of first three, only correctly rolled dice pools will count
>One roll post per person, unless at least ten minutes has passed since your last roll then you can roll again
>Crits are 100 on a d100(a 99 or paired rolls may net you an extra bonus)
>Crit fails -only- occur if no roll passes the DC, or if two different 1s are rolled which will OVERRIDE even a critical success, resulting in a catastrophic crit failure
>Write-ins are both allowed and encouraged, but options too out of character will be shut down
>Do NOT delete votes, instead simply link your change to your previous post as well as the vote post
>I can change any of the above rules at any time for any or no reason
>Have fun

SCQ will usually start every Saturday at noon Eastern Standard Time, and run throughout the weekend. Also, for updates or schedule changes you can find me on twitter @GrandDragonQM, which I try and keep as up-to-date with scheduling as possible

https://youtube.com/watch?v=7CNw73nwDm0

Current Arc: DYNASTY
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>>4879017
Last time on Saiyan Conqueror Quest:

A brawl broke out with the Time Patrol at Chilli and Megumin’s wedding. After the sudden apparent death of Karn’s father Tatsu he went on a rampage, slaughtering Trunks and the other Time Patrollers who showed up. Then Mechikabura himself entered the fray, after the appearance of a Demon God Demigra and the Supreme Kai of Time unleashed an army of herselves against Mechikabura’s army of Towa, and as the battle progressed the Towa Karn has children with drive one of the Time Kais towards him with her god-slaying spear while he was supposedly frozen in time. And with a single strike, Divine Dragon Force ended one of the Supreme Kais of Time. With this Karn displayed his might to all the powers that be, the Time Patrol and Mechikabura’s forces all left. After this Karn confronted Okira about her Stand, the two using their power to fix everything besides the people the battle had broken. And as we rejoin Karn, Okira’s Imagine Dragon just finished restoring the ceremony site.

“Mmrrmmmm.” Okira mumbles as she curls up in a littl ball your arms. You hold your daughter close, and feel a yawn escape your own mouth as well. Using your Ascended Berserker on top of Towa’s Supervillain powerup has left your own energy completely wiped out. You feel that if you sit down and stay there for only a minute, you’d already be asleep. But before you can do any of that, you have things to do first. Walking back to your seat you find your suit coat, restored to pristine condition by Imagine Dragon’s ability. You grab the coat, reaching into the inner pockets and grabbing the gifts you’d discovered beneath New Salda for the happy couple. Wrapping them to your sides with your tail and holding the box Mechikabura gave to you for Chilli, you walk over to him. And as he sees you walking up, you notice his gaze suddenly gets really serious.

“Here. Should have given these to you two earlier, looking back.” you say, holding Mechikabura’s present aloft telepathically while reaching into your pocket. With one hand you draw both from an inner pocket, neither activating. “But I didn’t think they’d get through your shield.”
“Oh, right.” he says, raising his right hand and snapping his fingers. Beams of light begin piercing through the shadowy dome, the darkness vanishing after no more than a dozen seconds. “We don’t need it anymore I guess. So what’re these?”
“Be careful.” you tell them, holding the magical-seeming weapons aloft with telekinesis and gently catching the box with your free hand. “They’re dangerous swords.”
“Swords?” Megumin asks, grabbing one. And the azure blade immediately springs forth from the tip.
cont
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>>4879023
“WOAH!!” she shouts, nearly dropping the weapon in surprise. She flails about with it a moment, forcing you to lean back to avoid getting your neck or head cut. “Oh, sorry!”
“As I said, be careful.” you say with a chuckle, Chilli carefully taking his gifted weapon and examining it. Without fully gripping the weapon he doesn’t activate it, instead turning the ivory handle over in his hands. “Found these in a hidden room back in the ruins, guarded by a stone-armored corpse.”
“Wait, a hidden room?” he asks, suddenly interested. “Hidden how?”

“A stone armor zombie?! That sounds cool!” Megumin asks, eyes sparkling a bit. You explain everything: heading down into the ruins to find their gifts, phasing through the wall, encountering the knight, and his hammer destroying the ground and sending everything else that was in the room deeper into the planet.
“Illusions made of light magic...” Chilli mutters, hand going to his chin as he ponders something. Probably figuring out how he could do such a thing himself. As he does you smile, reach out and ruffle his hair. This starts him a bit, but when he sees you the sudden tension in his body immediately vanishes. And is replaced by curiousity. “Dad?”
“You’re a smart one, that brain of yours works faster than mine kiddo.” you tell him, seeing the sudden surprise on his face. “I’m real proud of you, Chilli.”

Your son clearly doesn’t know how to respond, and after trying and failing to find the words for several seconds simply floats up a bit and hugs you around your neck. You return the hug, feeling his conflicting emotions through the touch. After at least twenty seconds his grip finally loosens up, you seeing his eyes are a little teary.

“Oh, and this is for you too.” you tell him, remembering Mechikabura’s gift and handing it to him. “From Mechikabura, he wanted me to give this to you.”
“Uhh, okay?” he replies, taking it. And the moment he touches it, his entire body freezes.
“Chilli?” you ask, confused by his reaction. But he tucks it away inside his Crimson Demon robes, then reaches out telepathically.
“It feels like a spellbook.” your son thinks to you. “I saw Raven’s she got from Aku, but it wasn’t anywhere this -heavy-. Going to study it later.”
“Sounds good.” you say, smiling to him as her parents walk up. Excusing yourself you let them talk, looking around to decide where to go next.

Well?
>Go to Towa speaking with Freeza, this particular conversation could be interesting
>Chaya and Raditz are talking to the brown-haired boy, wait is that Trunks’ sword he’s got?
>Maza seemed to enjoy showing off that new form of his, go ask him about it
>Just take a seat holding your snoozing daughter, you’ll manage to stay awake. Right?
>Other(write in)
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>>4879027
>>Go to Towa speaking with Freeza, this particular conversation could be interesting
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>>4879027
....Shiiiiiet, I wanna do All the options aside from sleep, but we're probably too tired to do more than one.... Shit, man, i can't decide.
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>>4879027
>Go to Towa speaking with Freeza, this particular conversation could be interesting
Dang, tough choice between this and Kazuma's conversation.
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>>4879027
>Maza seemed to enjoy showing off that new form of his, go ask him about it
It's been years since we last saw him and we didn't even get to fight alongside each other during the battle.
I wanna talk to the boy.
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>>4879038
Shit, it HAS been AGES since we've talked to him, hasn't it?
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>>4879057
Indeed. I bet he also has a lot of questions after all that as well.
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Rolled 13, 4, 40, 75 = 132 (4d100)

>>4879032
>>4879034
>>4879035
>>4879038
Go to Towa speaking with Freeza, this particular conversation could be interesting wins it. Roll me a 2d100.
First DC: 30
Second DC: ??
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Rolled 60, 66 = 126 (2d100)

>>4879061
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Rolled 56, 57 = 113 (2d100)

>>4879061
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Rolled 22, 68 = 90 (2d100)

>>4879061
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>>4879062
>>4879064
>>4879065
60/100, 68/100. Success and a mystery, writing.
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>>4879027
Seeing Freeza, still surprisingly holding onto his Golden form speaking with Towa in her demoness form, you decide that conversation could be interesting. So you start walking towards them, Caulifla following behind you curiously. As you approach, you see Freeza still maintaining his Golden form easily, while Towa’s already reverted back to her own base.

“-lling me that he actually did it?” Freeza asks her. “He actually killed the Supreme Kai of Time?”
“Yes, but actually no.” she answers as you walk up behind her. “His Stand erased -A- Time Kai, but with so many of her present it’s impossible to say which one. However, that will have-eep!”
“Hey.” you say, right hand on her hip as you hug her to your right side.
“Well now, look at you, godslayer.” Freeza says with a smirk. “Finally killed one of those meddling Time Kais, I hear.”
“It was only with Towa’s help here.” you say, hugging her a bit closer to you for a moment. “I’m still not fast enough to keep up with beings stronger than your Golden form. But she backed one right up to me with her god-slaying spear. And before she knew it, I got her. Divine Dragon Force wiped her out.”

“Ah yes, your Stand.” Freeza answers. “Father did take the Covenant’s dagger home for study, and to figure out how such a thing works. Once he understands how it works better, perhaps I shall get my own Stand and be able to fight her alongside you?”
“Well if you do get one, I hope it’s as useful as mine.” you answer. Then you gesture to Koruza, he and his older sister Milha sleeping curled up on a bench together, and continue. “Or as powerful as Koruza’s. His Stand let him beat the older Chaya, and it wasn’t even a contest.”
“It is a frightening thing, but he has gained control of it over the years.” Towa says, a warm smile on her face. “All the children have gotten much more powerful. And now that we have our defenses fully operational, you’ll be able to come back and start visiting us again.”
“I’n looking forward to it.” you reply with a yawn. Towa giving you a kiss before walking herself over to the sleeping kids. Freeza turns back to you after a moment, an odd, unreadable expression on his face.

“You really did it. You really killed that Kai.” he repeats, shaking his head in seeming disbelief. “To think. Now I see why you haven’t used your Stand against me. Doesn’t seem to be a power you can hold back with.”
“Not in the slightest.” you say. “When Divine Dragon Force pierces an opponent, it turns their own ki against them, destroying them completely. Once the process starts it’s over, even undoing my attack by rewinding time couldn’t stop it and save her. Once that attack lands, its over.”
“Well that’s absolutely broken.” comes a voice from behind you.
cont
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>>4879188
Turning you see Kazuma, followed only by Yunyun while the rest of his team isn’t anywhere nearby.

“It’s no Za Warudo, but ending a fight in one shot is still good.” he continues, looking back and forth between you and Freeza’s questioning gaze. “...What?”
“Oh? You seem to be rather knowledgeable about these matters.” Freeza says, taking a couple steps up to be even with you. “So, what is your Stand?”
“Well, L-Lord Freeza, I actually don’t have a Stand myself.” he replies, suddenly and very clearly nervous coming face-to-face with Freeza. “But I know a good bit about them. And other things which I’m certain you’ll want to know about. Which is why I’m here, Lord Freeza. I’m here to offer up my services and more importantly knowledge to your cause.”

“Oh hoho? It would seem my reputation precedes me even here, to beings clearly not of the Crimson Demon clan.” Freeza replies, focused on the young man before him. “So tell me, what is your name?”
“My name is Satou Kazuma.” he replies, you noticing he collected Trunks’ sword and now has it on his back. “And I know the secret for obtaining what you desire most.”
“Ohh? Many have made such a claim over the years.” Freeza answers, suddenly intense. “But do you? Do you truly?”
“I know the secret of how to make you immortal!” the boy shouts, surprising you, Freeza, and even his companion. Immortality? Really? Could this inconspicuous man know such a thing? He was clearly able to grab Trunks’ sword during the battle, so there is more to him than you’d first though. But do you really believe this claim?

Well?
>Stay and hear him out with Freeza, you’re at least curious.
>Head over to Meloka with your youngest son Karn Jr, sit with her and just watch the party unfold
>Talk to Maza, he has clearly been working hard to achieve that new form
>Chaya and Raditz are looking at the two cameras they’d placed earlier and look worried, check up on them
>Other?(write in)
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Vote open for one hour, and my apologies for this one taking so long. Mobile network wasn’t connecting to captcha for some reason
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>>4879190
>>Stay and hear him out with Freeza, you’re at least curious.
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>>4879190
>>Stay and hear him out with Freeza, you’re at least curious.
Oh boy, we can't just walk away after him saying something like that.
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>>4879027
>Mechi gave Chilli a Grimoure
Oooooh, shit.
>>4879188
>“His Stand erased -A- Time Kai, but with so many of her present it’s impossible to say which one. However, that will have-eep!”
You cute sexy dork.
>Once he understands how it works better, perhaps I shall get my own Stand and be able to fight her alongside you?”
He is ready, he knows the brokenness of Stands.
>“Well that’s absolutely broken.” comes a voice from behind you.
IT. IS. TIME!
>>4879190
>Stay and hear him out with Freeza, you’re at least curious
>Ask him what he was talking to Chaya and Raditz about before that.
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>>4879190
>>Stay and hear him out with Freeza, you’re at least curious.
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>>4879198
>Oh boy, we can't just walk away after him saying something like that.
This conversation may have huge impact on what will happen in the future. It's very important.
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>>4879190
>Stay and hear him out with Freeza, you’re at least curious.
It sounds like this is gonna be Frieza's next big undertaking. It's only right that his General be filled in as well.
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>>4879190
>>Stay and hear him out with Freeza, you’re at least curious.
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>>4879195
>>4879198
>>4879202
>>4879209
>>4879213
>>4879241
Stay and hear him out with Freeza, you’re at least curious wins. Again, roll me a 2d100 as you feel even drowsier.
First DC: 50
Second DC: ??
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Rolled 99, 32 = 131 (2d100)

>>4879270
Don't try to bullshit a killer, his best friend, his Stand, and his Sith Ghost.
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Rolled 7, 12 = 19 (2d100)

>>4879270
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Rolled 39, 34 = 73 (2d100)

>>4879270
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>>4879277
Woot.
>>4879279
Damnit.
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Rip in sleep
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>>4879277
>>4879278
>>4879279
99/100, 34/100. You certainly keep awake and pay attention to this, but how long can you keep going? Writing.
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>>4879190
“Ah, so I take it you’re the one Chilli spoke with, delivering that warning about Trunks.” Freeza says, already back in control of the situation. “Seems that it was unnecessary. But, you do know that he’ll be back for his sword, right? This isn’t the first time the General here has personally ended that boy’s life.”
“Wait, really?” Kazuma asks, suddenly looking to you differently. “This wasn’t the first time?”
“Last time was years ago. Cut him right in half.” you reply, remembering that fight and losing the smile. “Then one of her pet Majins ate him, and gained the power to defeat me. I won in the end, but it was a close thing. Too close.”

“Anyways, I believe we’re getting off topic.” Freeza says, steering you all back. “Now, feel free to correct me if I’m wrong, but you spoke of immortality? You truly know how to achieve such a thing?”
“Heh. Not only do I know how, but more importantly, where.” Kazuma replies, seemingly much more certain of himself. “And I can help you avoid the traps that would lead to you losing your shot at getting it, too.”
“You think there exists a trap that can stop me?” Freeza replies, the man seemingly shrinking at Freeza’s question. “Do you doubt my power? Should I give you a demonstration then?”
“That’s exactly the trap I meant!” Kazuma says, almost cowering but doing his best to appear unafraid in Freeza’s presence. “Killing the wrong people would make the Dragonballs not work, and then you’d lose your chance forever!”

“I see. A clever defense mechanism for a powerful being, doubtlessly made by a planet’s Guardian to ensure their own survival.” Freeza says, pondering as the young man sighs heavily in relief. Then snaps back up to attention as Freeza continues. “However, you said people. Which implies that there is more than one set of these mystical orbs. So, tell me. Where are these planets with the ability to make such wonderful objects, these Dragonballs?”
“I don’t know.” he says, you seeing the surprisingly hopeful expression on Freeza’s face drop. Kazuma coearlt sees this too, and scrambles. “Without a map of the stars and their planets, and names too if they’re available, I won’t be able to find either planet. But if I can see a map of the known universe, I can get us moving in the right directions to fulfill your wish.”
“Wish indeed.” Freeza says, and from his tone you think he’s not fully convinced. He then turns to you, confirming your suspicions. “What do you think, General? Do you think this man speaks of the truth?”
>vote in one minute, thanks character limit
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>>4879428
What a question. Well?
>He’s clearly not telling you everything he knows, but you don’t think he’s lying
>From trying to warn Freeza about Trunks to this, he may be wrong sometimes but he has your best interests at heart. You say trust him, cautiously
>You’d recommend Freeza ask Chilli, who’s no doubt had much more interaction with him. You can’t tell for sure
>You don’t trust him, he seems like a weasely lowlife to you just trying to win favor
>Other?(write in)
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>>4879430
>"How do you know this information? Your not telling us everything."
>Call Chilli over and ask him about Kazuma
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Trying and failing to remember specifics, weren't we introduced to the concept of dragon balls in our trip to Conton City?

>He’s clearly not telling you everything he knows, but you don’t think he’s lying
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>>4879430
>>He’s clearly not telling you everything he knows, but you don’t think he’s lying
Freeza did almost die, I wouldn't say the warning was unwarranted.
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>>4879430
>He’s clearly not telling you everything he knows, but you don’t think he’s lying
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>>4879445
Yep. Towa told us too, but warned Pink would get pissy if we meta gamed, we won't have that problem now.
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>>4879430
>>He’s clearly not telling you everything he knows, but you don’t think he’s lying
>Ask him why he's telling us this, and what does he think he's going to get out of it?
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>>4879430
>Read his mind

I knew that installed Muffin Button would come in handy.
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>>4879471
Can we do that?
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According to pastebin it's like that:
>Telepathy- Speak to those you know with your mind. You cannot read the mind of anyone unwilling, just the thoughts others want to send back at you.
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>>4879430
>>He’s clearly not telling you everything he knows, but you don’t think he’s lying
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>>4879471
Pretty sure our telepathy is limited to voluntary communication. Unless you wanna project "WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU THINKING?!" at him and count the response as mind reading.
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>>4879481
lol
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>>4879481
I wanna imagine that's how Goku did it since there's no goddamn way he could have mastered the kinda mind-reading he did on Namek.
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>>4879481
>HEY. HEY POLICE GIRL. HE'S GETTING AWAY. YOU'RE GONNA MISS IIIT.
It'll work, trust me.
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>>4879471
>>4879474
Karn only has telepathy, not mind reading
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>>4879491
Worth a shot. Can't multiclass into everything sadly.
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>>4879490
God they went so down so far.
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>>4879428
>He’s clearly not telling you everything he knows, but you don’t think he’s lying
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Rolled 79, 6, 2, 34 = 121 (4d100)

>>4879445
Yes you were. Anyways:
>>4879442
>>4879445
>>4879453
>>4879455
>>4879464
>>4879471
>>4879479
>>4879514
He’s clearly not telling you everything he knows, but you don’t think he’s lying wins it. Writing
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>>4879499
What bullshit have they been up to now? They're done making abridged, and that's all that most people were interested in. What could they have possibly done to make it worse?
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>>4879533
They have been drinking the Woke Politics tea, and after swearing off making Abridged episodes after their one member left, they haven't really done anything. They have a podcast that goes out on occasion, but I'm pretty sure no one watches anymore. Any woke inclined individuals they brought on and claim as fans will turn their back on them the second the mob bites their group, so its only a matter of time for TFS to end. They have been retroactively going back through episodes and PCing it too. Its sad.
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>>4879533
I know they've done like, animated skits. The comedy is.... existent but they've not been all that funny since namek.
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>>4879548
They made Cell into a massive rape joke, Popo is a giant nigger joke, and the entirety of Hellsing was nothing but nazis and bashing the gays. How in the hell did they go from that to Woke?
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>>4879548
Also, please tell me they aren't going through and deleting their episodes after PCing them.
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>>4879658
They have a major member as a gay dude and he says he is now offended about things that Twitter doesn't like.
>>4879669
I think some old mass episode dumps have the originals. But unfortunately, yeah, the old ones are no longer around baring the episodes people save. But they have been taken down when they get noticed. So its probably TFS hunting down old videos.
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>>4879675
I should have finished my yt rip years ago. I've got everything up to 37, should I be safe from retroactive edits?
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>>4879428
“He’s clearly not telling you everything he knows, but I don’t think he’s lying to you.” you say. “When I was in Conton City visiting Towa and the kids, I learned about the Dragonballs. Apparently if you gather all seven of them it summons a giant dragon, that grants you any wish within it’s power.”
“Any wish? And it comes true?” Freeza asks, hand going to his chin as you nod affirmatively. “Hrmmm. This venture may be more worth my time than I’d first thought. Now, as for you.”

As Freeza says this and returns his gaze to Kazuma, you see the man physically resist flinching at the Emperor’s gaze.

“I know why you hold much of your information back, and what you’re hoping to gain.” Freeza says, glaring at Kazuma. “Your attempts to worm your way into my good graces instead of actively saying what you’re offering and want in return is...annoying. I’ve dealt with more than my share of manipulative assholes, including my brother in my earlier years to want to deal with any more of them. So, if you really want to join me, and offer your knowledge in exchange for a place, then say so. Don’t try games with me.”
“I’d heard from my readings that you preferred to play games, so I was trying my best to play along.” Kazuma says, actually sighing out in relief. “Speaking frankly, I want off this planet. I’m tired of being stuck in this place with such a wide universe out there. Get me-“
“K-K-Kazuma, what are you saying?!” the blue-haired woman says, running up at him. “You can’t just leave! If you don’t beat the Demon King, how am I supposed to get back home?! And after all the help I’ve graciously given you!”
“Like I give a damn!” he shouts, whirling on the so-called goddess with righteous indignation. “Gracious my ass! You’ve done nothing but hold me back since you sent me to this forsaken place! If I could have traded you back in for a special power, I would have done it ages ago!”

Silence hangs over the immediate area, everyone within earshot having stopped to see what’s going on. Neither of them notice, the young man still fuming while the woman trembles, eyes watering.

“Th-That wasn’t very-“ Yunyun starts, but before she even finishes her sentence the blue haired woman shouts, lunging at him.
“KAAAAAZUUUUUMAAAAA??!!” she shouts, almost tackling him over and clinging to him, bawling like a young child. You and Freeza exchange a look, and decide to let this quarrel go without your influence. Yawning you turn away, free hand over your sleeping daughter’s ear to try and block out most of the screeching. You feel your body slowing down even more, and at this rate you’ll doubtlessly be asleep in a matter of minutes. But are you ready to sleep?
cont
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>>4879689
Anyone else you wish to talk to before passing out? Or are you going to sleep and skip the rest of the party?
>Meet up with Meloka, and the two of you can rest holding the youngest children
>Chaya, ask her why she was fiddling with those cameras earlier
>Maza, congratulate him on his newly-awakened power
>Find the nearest seat and crash, your energy is spent and you need to rest
>Other?(write in)
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>>4879681
Yeah, most that can happen is they flag your video and take them down if you post them, the only edits are on their channel. I think they are halfway through the Freeza saga at the moment though.
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>>4879691
>Meet up with Meloka, and the two of you can rest holding the youngest children
snooze
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>>4879691
>Maza, congratulate him on his newly-awakened power
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>>4879691
>Maza, congratulate him on his newly-awakened power
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>>4879691
>"So what is that about?", point at the blue girl.
>Maza, congratulate him on his newly-awakened power
>Give our son a hug.
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Is alternate future Chaya gone? The one who was with Kakarrot?
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>>4879691
>>Maza, congratulate him on his newly-awakened power
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>>4879691
>>Meet up with Meloka, and the two of you can rest holding the youngest children
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>>4879706
You haven’t seen her since the battle ended. You won’t see her today. But...well let’s not spoil things too much
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>>4879691
>Maza, congratulate him on his newly-awakened power
>Give our demons a hug.
>Meet up with Meloka, and the two of you can rest holding the youngest children
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>>4879715
Got it. Unfortunate, but thanks.
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>>4879715
Ya know, it is kinda odd that they showed up at all given what happened when we visited their timeline.
It begs the question, how'd they hop timelines?
More specifically, who's help did they get?
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>>4879715
Damn, I hope she's okay.
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>>4879691
>>Maza, congratulate him on his newly-awakened power
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>>4879691
>>Maza, congratulate him on his newly-awakened power
Karn will never lose to fatigue.
actually we lose to fatigue a lot when I think about it
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>>4879734
You never really win against fatigue, but we've certainly gotten better at fighting it than most.
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>>4879691
>Maza, congratulate him on his newly-awakened power

I want our boy to know that we are PROUD of his growth! even if we may not talk much.
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>>4879696
>>4879700
>>4879701
>>4879703
>>4879709
>>4879712
>>4879717
>>4879729
>>4879734
>>4879740
Maza, congratulate him on his newly-awakened power wins it. Alright, let’s take one last 2d100.
1st DC: 40
2nd DC: ??
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Rolled 70, 39 = 109 (2d100)

>>4879760
MUST. CONGRATULATE. SON.
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Rolled 92, 96 = 188 (2d100)

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>>4879777
Haha, yes
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Rolled 72, 38 = 110 (2d100)

>>4879760
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Rolled 30, 83 = 113 (2d100)

>>4879760
praying to not get a critfail because >>4879777 dad'd excellently already
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>>4879777
>even got trips, too
nice
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>>4879763
>>4879777
>>4879782
92/100, 96/100. Most impressive, Karn is nothing if not tenacious. Writing.
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>>4879188
>When Divine Dragon Force pierces an opponent, it turns their own ki against them, destroying them completely. Once the process starts it’s over, even undoing my attack by rewinding time couldn’t stop it and save her. Once that attack lands, its over.
Only 「Lyin' Eyes Requiem 」 got hit by it and then sort of did a reset the whole reality, to a version where Karn did not hit him.
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>>4879777
ULTIMATE DADDING!
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>>4879823
Yes, because it wasn’t just a time manipulator but a reality manipulator. It could see itself in the reflections, so it could change itself as well
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>>4879689
No, not yet. You have at least one more person to talk to, and see him speaking with Broly. Walking over to you feel yourself stagger a bit, but fortunately catch yourself. Wouldn’t do to fall over and pass out now, you haven’t spoken to Maza since he interrupted your fight with the orange-headed Time Patroller. And you need to talk to your son.

“-have to choose which path to go down soon.” Maza is saying, you getting the distinct impression he’s speaking down to Broly a bit now that he’s far stronger. “Either the path of rejecting godhood fully, and finally embracing your rage. Or overcoming your bestial rage, and walking the path of Primal like me, and Chaya. But I think you can tell which path is better.”

“Primal is a powerful transformation, and you certainly wear it well Maza.” you say, surprising both sons as they immediately turn to face you. “Maza here’s a great example, along with your older sister Chaya of what it can do. If you want to go down a well-traveled path, you’ll have plenty of company.”
“What other path is there?” Maza asks with a bit of a scoff. “Becoming one of those useless gods?”
“Turns out that those of us with the power of a Berserker actually can’t become a Super Saiyan God.” you tell him, to both Maza and Broly’s clear surprise. “Instead, according to Mechikabura, we’ll get something different. But enough about the future. I didn’t get to say it earlier, but well done son. I hadn’t expected you to have attained this form already.”

“I’ve been working hard, at least twelve hours a day for years now focusing exclusively on my own training.” he says, holding his arms out by his sides. “And the results speak for themselves.”
“You have gotten a lot stronger than me. At least for now.” Broly answers good naturedly, his nonchalance clearly irking Maza. “Even if I had been focusing on raw power as much as you have, you’d still be leagues ahead of me.”
“Even if- You mean you haven’t been focused on getting stronger?” Maza asks, shocked. “Why?!”
“I’ve been focused on other, more necessary training because of my power.” Broly answers levelly, not rising to Maza’s clear anger. Which is another aspect of the form you aren’t sure he’s aware of yet. “What good is power, if I cannot control it and hurt someone I care about? Or even worse, hurt my family?”
“Then they shouldn’t be in the way.” Maza says with a bit of heat, surprising you. “Might makes right, and the strongest makes the rules for others to live by! The weak die and the strong survive!”
cont
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>>4879952
What he’s saying sounds a lot like your own philosophy, but it just isn’t right. His why is especially wrong, you don’t make yourself stronger to rule. You do it to protect what’s important, and so others cannot decide your fate for you. Yoy don’t build yourself up and make rules solely to lord and rule over others. But as physically and mentally exhausted as you are, could you manage explaining the difference to him without butchering it, or worse?

Well?
>Try and explain it to him despite your exhaustion, and hope you don’t fumble your words too badly
>Tell him that his philosophy is wrong, and that the next time you see him you’ll take the time to explain why
>Don’t try and tell him now, there will be plenty of time when he’s not still riding the high of the battle and his new form when you go to visit.
>Other?(write in?)
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>>4879958
>Tell him that his philosophy is wrong, and that the next time you see him you’ll take the time to explain why
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>>4879958
>>Tell him that his philosophy is wrong, and that the next time you see him you’ll take the time to explain why
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>>4879952
Haaaah, Towa, we REALLY need to chat about that superiority complex you put in our kids, we need to help Maza mellow out a little.
>“I’ve been focused on other, more necessary training because of my power.” Broly answers levelly, not rising to Maza’s clear anger. Which is another aspect of the form you aren’t sure he’s aware of yet. “What good is power, if I cannot control it and hurt someone I care about? Or even worse, hurt my family?”
THAT'S OUR SON!
>“Then they shouldn’t be in the way.” Maza says with a bit of heat, surprising you. “Might makes right, and the strongest makes the rules for others to live by! The weak die and the strong survive!”
Oh...oooh son, I want to be disappointed, but we weren't in your life enough like we should have been.
>>4879958
>"Maza...if might made right, and solely based on might, then the Supreme Kai of Time would be the be all and end all, and that is not true either. That Philosophy is incomplete."
>"To gain power solely to obtain more power fails all that follow that creed eventually."
>"I gained my power to fight so you can come home, and play in the son with the rest of your family, so your mother never has to hide away with your siblings out of fear. And even then you have clearly demonstrated that you are stronger than me."
>"That simple idea, while on the surface correct, is not enough, by it's nature it could never be enough, there is always, ALWAYS, someone stronger, and it is to be truly strong to stand up again, and again, and again, as many times as it takes till you win."
>"It's what is in the back of my mind every time I train, to protect those I care about, being forced into suffering for no reason by the so called strongest that would force any and every whim upon them."
>"No matter the hell I go through, it is because you, all of you are worth that effort."
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>>4879958
>>Don’t try and tell him now, there will be plenty of time when he’s not still riding the high of the battle and his new form when you go to visit.
Actually changing to this. We're exhausted, Maza's naturally arrogant, and with Primal stacked on top and the battle high still running, he's not in a good place to listen. Better to let it pass for now, and adress him later, when we can speak properly, and he hasn't had time to stew that we told him he's wrong and let his pride build up.
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>>4879958
>Broly is right to want control. Our mutation gives us overwhelming rage that can cause us to lose ourselves, Maza. If we don't keep it on a tight reign, we'd become no better than rampaging beasts without a single rational thought, only capable of mindless destruction. Strength is always important, but not if you're too full or rage to point it where it needs to go. It's easy to beat someone who can't control their emotions, and even easier to beat someone that loses themselves entirely to them.
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>>4879958
I want to combine these two>>4879998
>>4880003
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Guys come on, Karn is a little minute from passing the fuck out, this isn't the time for him to be giving detailed life philosophy lessons.

And Maza is naturally Arrogant, has Primal stacked on top of it, and is still running a battle high. He's NOT in a place to listen to us right now, and even less for us to try and explain things to him then pass out before we finish.

Mazas not gunna magically get worse before we visit the family again and we can talk some sense into his head then.
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>>4880018
I typed all that out and I don't know if I can do it again in time to chat with our sons.
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>>4880018
My thoughts exactly. We'll visit Maza again soon enough and just telling him he's wrong might actually get him to do some introspection in the meantime.
Let's not do this while Karn is running on fumes.
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I want to reinforce that I didn’t give a prompt for what to tell him. You ALREADY KNOW THAT. The question is if you should try explaining it to him when you’re exhausted and -still- dealing with the concussion Vegito gave you
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>>4879958
>Ask him why we're still here than if that was all that mattered. The Supreme Kai was doubtlessly stronger, why should we even struggle as we have to resist her thus far under his philosophy. He should dwell on that till next we see him
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>>4880025
Oh...I feel my effort was wasted now...
>>4879958
>Tell him that his philosophy is wrong, and that the next time you see him you’ll take the time to explain why
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>>4880018
yeah, this desu. Passing out now mid monologue about how personal strength isn't everything isn't gonna help our point much
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>>4880025
I definitely don't think we should, and I forgot about the concussion, and was focused on the exhaustion. Yeah nobody is ready for this talk right now.
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>>4880025
>dealing with the concussion Vegito gave you
OH SHIT THAT'S WHY WE'VE BEEN DOING DOUBLE ROLLS.
Yeah passing out is a real concern here.
It would be a bit of a bummer if Karn died in his sleep after all.
Let's try and power through this until we can get back to our doctor.
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>>4879958
>>Don’t try and tell him now, there will be plenty of time when he’s not still riding the high of the battle and his new form when you go to visit.
Let's wait to present our argument sometime when there's less of a chance for us to include vomiting and passing out in it. I don't think telling him we won't explain now is the best, since that might just piss him off and make him less likely to listen to what we try to say later.
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>>4879958
>>>Don’t try and tell him now, there will be plenty of time when he’s not still riding the high of the battle and his new form when you go to visit.
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Just want to point out that the write ins on Karn’s philosophy aren’t wasted, and have been saved. Anyhow:
>>4879970
>>4879984
>>4879998
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>>4880003
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>>4880028
>>4880037
By one vote, Don’t try and tell him now, there will be plenty of time when he’s not still riding the high of the battle and his new form when you go to visit wins. Roll me a final 2d100.
First DC: 50
Second DC: 90(no critfail)
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Rolled 55, 7 = 62 (2d100)

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Rolled 55, 65 = 120 (2d100)

>>4880060
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Rolled 4, 13 = 17 (2d100)

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>>4880069
Neat.
>>4880060
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Rolled 42, 15 = 57 (2d100)

>>4880060
Well here comes dreamland.
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>>4880073
>>4880076
Fuck my dice today.
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>>4880063
>>4880063
We have doubles on a first roll, so it's something special. Right?
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>>4880060
But what were those DCs for?
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>>4880081
Should be, not sure what we get for it,
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>>4880089
Falling asleep and noticing some chucklefuck who wants Karn's seed sneaking around
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>>4880089
My guess is just to avoid passing out. I don't think the dubs will help since they're just on the first dc, but rest is important for concussions anyways lol
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>>4880096
Immediate rest is fine provided it's a minor concussion.
That said, it was Vegito who thrashed up around. It's probably pretty bad.
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>>4880063
>>4880069
>>4880073
Dub 55/100, 65/100. Success and failure, writing. You’ll at least protect the little one, even if it’s your last thought falling unconscious
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Ya know who Maza reminded me of just now? Fucking Demigra.
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>>4880122
I can unfortunately see it.
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>>4879958
“Is that what your mother has been teaching you?” you ask him, shaking your head a bit. You’re not upset with your son, just a bit disappointed. You should have been there more for him. And you would have, if it wasn’t for that bitch of a Kai. “Once everything’s settled down, we need to talk son. There’s so much more to life tha-GAAH?!”

Suddenly everything is pain, blindingly hot pain flaring up inside your head as if when you shook your head, you shook something loose. Staggering back you clutch your head with your free hand, trying to find your balance as suddenly the whole world feels like it’s spinning. Your vision goes all blurry, the image of your sons distorting into an incomprehensible mess. Something’s wrong, something’s really really wrong.

“Get. Cauli.” you say through gritted teeth, knowing if anything can help you right now it’s your daughter’s Triumph. Your vision starts going black, tunneling down as you realize you’re about to pass out. You feel your body falling forward, and are ready to embrace sleep when suddenly you remember Okira! Your daughter is sleeping peacefully in your arm, you can’t crush her! So with the last of your strength you twist, aiming your back towards the ground instead of your daughter. Yet before you can even hit the ground, the darkness has taken you. You blink several times, once more finding yourself floating in the void. You just close your eyes again, enjoying the sensation of weightlessly floating when someone surprisingly speaks!

“Looks like those two Saiyans did more damage than you thought.” Mechikabura says, your eyes snapping open as you turn to face the elder demon god. He seems as relaxed as ever, yet from where you are floating is just outside Divine Dragon Force’s range. You aren’t sure if that is intentional or not, but the moment you realize this he smirks. “Of course I am. Just because I have taken precautions against the two of you, doesn’t mean that I’m so eager to test them.”
“Thanks for the help earlier.” you say, the old demon smiling a bit smugly yet waving your thanks off.
“You’re the one who did most of the work.” he replies, then addresses Divine Dragon Force directly. “Both of you.”
“I wasn’t sure my abilities could stop one with control over time.” Divine Dragon Force answers him honestly. “Not after last time.”
“Lyin Eyes Requiem.” Mechikabura says, snorting a small bit at your shock. “I knew of Truth’s Stand. It was one I had considered using against her, myself. But it’s power is too limited. It cannot measure up to those who can control time and space, like yourself. After all, that wasn’t the first time you’ve defeated that particular Stand.”
cont
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>>4880235
“What?” you ask, looking between Divine Dragon Force and Mechikabura. “You really fought it before? How? When?”
“I do not remember such a battle.” your Stand says, not taking it’s eyes off the demon god. “Yet...Something in your words speaks true to me. I feel you know more of me than even I myself do, and there is much more you aren’t saying.”
“You are correct.” Mechikabura answers, expression turning a bit more serious. “And there is good reason for that silence. I do it not to hide you from yourself, but to protect the both of you. I wasn’t certain of it until today, but now I know for sure. Isn’t that right, Dumplin?”

“Wait what?!” you shout, turning and following Mechikabura’s gaze to see that, sure enough, the other demon god Dumplin is here too. What the actual hell is going on? “You’re-! But you, you two were fighting earlier! What’s going on here?”
“There’s a lot going on that you don’t know about, kid.” Dumplin says, expressionless eyes gazing intensely at you. “But there’s no doubt about it. You’re the real deal.”
“Once you’re strong enough to stand on your own, we shall reveal more to you.” Mechikabura says, waving a hand and cracking the void around you three. “Until then, master your strength. Become the force of destruction you were meant to be.”

And then the dream ends. Your eyes open to find yourself in an unfamiliar bed, in an unfamiliar room. But as you think this, you realize it isn’t a bed. But the floor. Looking around you see Meloka beside you, Caulifla between you. Okira is still sleeping on your chest, Maz and Kayle both lying on your left arm while Tatsu and Tomi are beside Meloka Several thin, patched blankets cover each of you, and you feel a pillow behind your head. In fact you aren’t wearing your suit coat either, seeing it hanging on the back of a chair Someone clearly took good care of you while you were out, and judging from the familiar broken sword lying in the corner by the chair, realize you must be in Megumin’s folks’ place. Nice of them to take you all in.

But what now?
>Sneak out of bed, go stretch and practice your Djem So technique to make sure you’re okay and everything’s working
>Simply lay there surrounded by most of your family, you’ve earned this moment of peace after everything yesterday
>Telepathically reach out to Chilli, then Broly and last Caulifla to make sure they’re all alright since they aren’t here
>Sneak out of bed and walk around the town, hopefully finding the chief to apologize for accidentally dragging his people into your family’s battle
>Other(write in)
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>>4880238
>Mechi and Dump join because we're some force of nature.
Ooooh, shit.
>Telepathically reach out to Chilli, then Broly and last Caulifla to make sure they’re all alright since they aren’t here
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>>4880238
>>Sneak out of bed, go stretch and practice your Djem So technique to make sure you’re okay and everything’s working
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>>4880238
>Telepathically reach out to Chilli, then Broly and last Caulifla to make sure they’re all alright since they aren’t here
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>>4880238
>Commune with Darth Bane. Get his take on recent events and discuss how to move forward after Mechikabura's cryptic message.
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>>4880238
>>Simply lay there surrounded by most of your family, you’ve earned this moment of peace after everything yesterday
Guys we passed the fuck out in terrible pain and our family is/was worried. And we killed a Time Kai and had that battle royal too. Just enjoy the peace with our family. This is why we fight.

Also, I see, Dumplins Karn was supposedily erased but....that seems to have been a lie.

And a Force Of Destruction That We Were Meant To Be?

What the fucking kind of game are these gods playing? Because I Do Not Like Being An Ignorant Pawn In The Games Of The Divine, Damned, Or Not.
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>>4880260
At least they're intent on making this pawn into a gamewinning unit.
Better than being a sacrificial pawn.
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>>4880238
>Telepathically reach out to Chilli, then Broly and last Caulifla to make sure they’re all alright since they aren’t here
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>>4880238
>“There’s a lot going on that you don’t know about, kid.” Dumplin says, expressionless eyes gazing intensely at you. “But there’s no doubt about it. You’re the real deal.”

Aw fuck were on the timeline that ends up Dumplins friend arn't we? He clearly had DDF and thats probably a decent chunk of the reason why the SKoT went all out to get rid of him,.
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>>4880238
Bruh, are you telling me that we ARE dumplins OG karn, and that the skot never erased him, just reset the timeline instead?
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>>4880289
No. That Karn was erased
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>>4880249
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>>4880254
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>>4880275
Telepathically reach out to Chilli, then Broly and last CHAYA to make sure they’re all alright since they aren’t here wins it. Yes, that was a typo in the prompt, as Caulifla is between Karn and Meloka in the above post. Anyways, this’ll probably be the last update of the night. Writing.
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>>4880289
No she explicitly murdered that one, but our Karn is following the same path as that particular Karn; which considering how absolutely fucktarded time is as a whole means close enough.
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>>4880302
Plus we got DDF, pretty sure the Deleted One didn't.
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>Yfw the reason Darth Karnage hasn't been featured in an omake is because his extrasensory abilities are so powerful he would know that the audience was about to watch him, causing him to shut us out of being able to observe him
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>>4880304
He kinda did, he gave us DF at least.
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>>4880238
With your family around you, sleeping soundly you feel mostly at peace. However, there are three noticeable missing. Chilli being gone is understandable, no doubt spending his wedding night with his new wife Megumin. But other than him, both Broly and Chaya also aren’t anywhere to be seen. Feeling a moment’s worry, you expand your ki senses and search for the three of them. Broly’s ki is the first you sense, and judging from the distance is quite possibly at the mountains where the corpse army came from. Wierd. But even further out, not even on the planet you sense Chilli.Strange for his energy signature to not be anywhere on the planet itself, but perhaps there’s a good reason for that. And Chaya’s energy simply isn’t anywhere, you can’t feel her ki even well beyond Megumin’s homeworld. Perhaps she went back to her Dreadzone? But first thing’s first, reaching out telepathically and thinking to your oldest born son.

“Hey kiddo, sleep good?” you think to him, but don’t get a response. You can sense his energy fine, but him not answering and being clearly off-world is worrying. You focus your energy to teleport to him, but as you do sense the other energy there with him. Ah. No wonder the newlywed couple are still asleep, Freeza probably gifted them a similar pod to the one you and Meloka shared on your own wedding night. Best leave them to it. Switching your focus, you turn your attention to Broly, and reach out to him. “Everything okay son?”

“Yeah, I’m fine.” he replies instantly. “What about you, are you okay? Dropping like that, about scared me and Maza to death!”
“Sorry about that.” you apologize. “Hadn’t realized how down bad I was after that gusion guy Vegito got ahold of me. Should’a listened to Chilli, and stayed back a little longer for them to soften him up.”
“He’s probably gonna say ‘I told you so’ when he gets back.” Broly answers, his smile coming through the psychic link. “Have you talked to him yet?”
“No, your brother’s still asleep.” you reply. “Gonna check on Chaya now.”
“Good luck. After Caulifla checked you out, and used some of her gold healing magic that I can actually see to fix you, we all laid you down there at Megumin’s place.” he continues. “That was pretty much the end of the party. Chaya and Raditz left after that, figured it was something Dreadzone related and didn’t ask.”
“What about Towa, and your half-siblings?” you ask him. “Did they leave too?”
“They left right after Caulifla gave you the all clear.” he answers. “Once we’re back home, she’s invited us all to check out their new place.”
“Sounds like a plan. And good for you, sticking to your training.” you tell him, ending the link and switching your focus to Chaya. “Hey kiddo. You up?”
cont
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>>4880349
“Hey, you’re okay!” she replies. “Was worried about you. What happened? Why’d you just drop like that?”
“Apparently I got rocked harder than I thought.” you tell her. “Where’d you go?”
“Oh, me and Raditz took the cameras back to Dreadzone, and I had a fight today.” she replies. “Wasn’t much of a fight, didn’t even go into my final form.”
“Most things out there aren’t really a challenge for you, at this level.” you reply. “Maybe you could hop back home more often, and fight opponents at your own level. At least keep you sharp.”
“I had completely forgot about that!” she replies as if suddenly receiving a revelation. “That sounds like a great idea. Wonder if- Oh, hey I gotta go. Talk more later okay?”

“Of course, have fun kiddo.” you reply, Chaya ending the link as you sigh out. At least they’re all safe, from the sounds of it you took the worst of yesterday’s brawl on your side. But why are Mechikabura and Dumplin working together? Why does Chaya going back to Dreadzone give you an anxious feeling now, when it never really has for the past few years? And why do you suddenly sense an incredibly powerful ki just outside the door??

-Saiyan Conqueror Quest 158 paused-
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>>4880354
And that’s it for tonight, enjoying this episode so far? Curious what’s going on, and just how much more of your life these extradimensional beings know than you? Ready to return home, and get back to work? This episode will continue in 11 1/2 hours, so I’ll see you then!
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>>4880354
>“Of course, have fun kiddo.” you reply, Chaya ending the link as you sigh out. At least they’re all safe, from the sounds of it you took the worst of yesterday’s brawl on your side. But why are Mechikabura and Dumplin working together? Why does Chaya going back to Dreadzone give you an anxious feeling now, when it never really has for the past few years? And why do you suddenly sense an incredibly powerful ki just outside the door??
in b4 its trunks wanting his sword back
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>>4880357
How many Karns have managed to kill a Supreme Kai of Time before?
I feel like that was all just a convoluted test to see if we have what it takes to fill the space the Old Karn left.
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>>4880362
well if it was i think we succeeded since we murdered the shit out of that SKoT.
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>>4880366
I mean, Mechikabura said as much.
We're certainly a worthwhile investment to him.
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>>4880358
He couldn’t possibly fuck up that badly, right?
>>4880362
One
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>>4880386
>He couldn’t possibly fuck up that badly, right?
WUH-
WHAT? DID WE GIVE HIM FUCKING BRAIN DAMAGE?
GO HOME TRUNKS.
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>>4880389
Too be fair we did literally explode his head, maybe he didn't come back right.
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>>4880349
>Megu got the Breeding Pod Honeymoon Suite
Heh, she is gonna be walkin funny if Chilli isn't just carrying her around.
>>4880354
God we really need to find challenges for the kids.
>>4880386
>He couldn’t possibly fuck up that badly, right?
Don't tempt fate like that, and Chaya doesn't even have the damn sword. Kazuma does.
>>4880389
Well, we did break his brain. And that mental scaring probably can't be removed by the Dragonballs respawning him.
>>4880393
It would be weirder if he did. Like Pink Bitch clearly fucked with his head weird.
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>>4880389
>WHAT? DID WE GIVE HIM FUCKING BRAIN DAMAGE?
Yes. Catastrophic fatal brain damage in fact.
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>>4880395
>It would be weirder if he did. Like Pink Bitch clearly fucked with his head weird.
I mean she already has before we blew his mind open, but he might have shown up anyways cause we done broke the entire time patrol in that mess other then the 3 morons is my bet.
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>>4880386
Was Chilli's darkness dome just to prevent the SKoT coming in an immediately rewinding everything and everyone?
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>>4880395
>Heh, she is gonna be walkin funny if Chilli isn't just carrying her around.
He's 11.
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>>4880402
He is probably nursing the largest jug of booze he can get, and is in the closet hiding from everyone after leading their their brutal and completely avoidable back to back executions. Which he couldn't do a single fucking thing about. His dad couldn't do a fucking thing either, and this loss must really grind his gears, maybe after this he's actually gonna have a chat with Boi over what we have done.
>>4880404
No, it was to prevent people from watching the wedding and knowing our extended family was visiting. Speaking of, CONSTAINTINE NEEDS A GRINDING FOR BRINGING THAT SHITSHOW WITH HIM TO THE DAMN WEDDING!
>>4880405
He's Saiyan, get over it.
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>>4880404
no it was unironically just so towa and co could go without the SkoT going stupid and ruining it, which she did anyways because shes the SKoT.
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>>4880408
Hey John was just after whatever was his own problem. And he very wisely decided to fuck off. Ain't his fault.
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>>4880437
He still chased it into our wedding bubble, he broke the sanctity of the wedding bubble. But he escaped and I doubt we will be able to catch him.
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>>4880450
You act like woke up that day and chose to crash a wedding. Relax dude. He's an ass and he'll give you a reason to hate him but this wasn't his fault. It was just the perfect storm. It's not like he kept going and caused more trouble. He noped out the moment he read the room. Which is the single most mature and responsible thing anyone could have done at that moment.

Keep your ire focused on those who really deserve it. You try to kill Constantine and someone else will take advantage of the shifted attention.
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>>4880493
Meh, fine, I want to call him an asshole at the bare minimum.
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>>4880499
He did literally nothing wrong though.
He came to scope out what he thought was something he could handle, and then left as soon as he realized he was in way over his head.
He didn't attack anybody.
He didn't bring any uninvited guests.
Hell, he didn't even get drunk off the free drinks.
Guy was on his best behavior through and through.
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>>4880510
Meh, meta hate is rude I suppose. Fine, I wont vote to incinerate him.
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>>4880357
>And that’s it for tonight, enjoying this episode so far?
Yes.
>>4880354
>And why do you suddenly sense an incredibly powerful ki just outside the door?
Who would could that be? Perhaps the Demon King of this world decided to see himself what is going on.
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>>4880354
>Why does Chaya going back to Dreadzone give you an anxious feeling now, when it never really has for the past few years?
Karn is capable of seeing the future, like when he had a vision of what could happen in Covenant throne room after Black Dragon's possible betrayal. Maybe he is sensing some hidden threat to Chaya.
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>>4880389
Ha
>>4880395
Chilli hasn’t hit puberty yet.
Yes
Chaya’s not even there with you
>>4880404
Who knows?
>>4880437
He was hunting Ozotto.
>>4880593
Glad you enjoyed. And you’ll see SOON
>>4880595
True enough
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>>4880354
Focusing on the massive ki just outside, it only takes you a moment to understand who’s it is. Recognizing Freeza’s ki you immediately relax, sighing in relief before reaching out to him telepathically.

“Good morning, Freeza.” you think to him. “Did I miss anything interesting yesterday?”
“Good to see your sense of humor survived intact.” Freeza retorts. “And no. Once you were confirmed okay but still not waking up, that ended the celebratory mood for the villagers and everyone started heading home.”
“That’s a damn shame.” you answer, stomach then growling furiously at you. You haven’t eaten since breakfast yesterday, and can clearly feel it. “I need to find something to eat. What about yourself?”
“Oh no, I’m fine myself.” he replies. “Should I find someone awake to begin preparing-?”
“No no, it’s all fine.” you say, using your telekinesis to begin gently lifting children up off of you. “I’m just going to head out and find me something. First time I was here, there were some rather good bears in the forests. Perhaps I’ll hunt down one or two of them.”

Once free of your sleeping family members you carefully place them all back down where you’d been. Fortunately your escape doesn’t wake any of them, you floating over to your shoes and grabbing them before placing the first two fingers of your right hand to your forehead. And a second later teleport, not opening the possibly-loud door.

“Wanna come with?” you ask him, still telepathically as you lower your hand. “Plenty of game on a planet like this.”
“Thanks for the offer, but no.” he replies, Golden form reflecting the little predawn light there is. “I know my instincts don’t seem to be nearly as sharp as your own, but I have a feeling I’m needed here this morning. So I’ll stay here, just in case.”
“I appreciate it. I’ll bring back enough hopefully for everyone.” you say, floating over to the main door and go through, closing it behind you. Now outside you take a deep breath of the predawn air, the first hints of sunlight already peaking over the ridges. Soon enough the sun will rise on another day. But what about you? Which way will you go looking for food?

Well?
>North. Colder climates usually have larger creatures built to withstand those temperatures
>South, that was the direction where you’d encountered the giant bears before on your first visit
>East, the direction the Demon King’s armies come from. Surely there’s some wild beasts that way worth a hunt
>West, go past the risen dead mountains and see what’s beyond
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>>4880819
>North. Colder climates usually have larger creatures built to withstand those temperatures
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>>4880819
>North. Colder climates usually have larger creatures built to withstand those temperatures
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>>4880819
>>West, go past the risen dead mountains and see what’s beyond
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Rolled 2 (1d5)

>>4880837
>>4880868
>>4880872
North. Colder climates usually have larger creatures wins it. Roll me a 5d100, let’s go
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Rolled 47, 10, 61, 6, 2 = 126 (5d100)

>>4880880
let's break some breakfast
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Rolled 65, 5, 40, 89, 12 = 211 (5d100)

>>4880880
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Rolled 54, 86, 54, 73, 40 = 307 (5d100)

>>4880880
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Rolled 25, 4, 99, 16, 58 = 202 (5d100)

>>4880880
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>>4880883
>>4880894
>>4880897
86/100. Impressive, writing.
The 1d5 determined the creature you find, and which roll counts
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>>4880913
Damn, now I kinda want to see the encounter table for this afterwards.
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>>4880913
That sounds like a fucky table to roll on.
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>>4880819
You decide to head up further north, towards those snow-covered peaks and see what sorts of beings are up around there to eat. Frozen terrains usually have the largest, furriers beasts, bulky creatures built to survive the lack of warmth. Lifting up off the ground you blast off, leaving the village behind. The flight over those distant peaks lasts only a few seconds, clearing the mountaintops to see the land beyond. It looks like a frozen tundra, the plane of white sporadically broken by the chill blue of icy waters. But there is one bright spot of red that draws your eye, seeing a large, four-legged beast with massive tusks laying on it’s side. The creature’s guts are spilled out onto the ice, several smaller beasts tearing away at it. Perhaps they’ll do?

Dropping down silently from the sky, something suddenly spooks the wolf like creatures. They all spin around, you hearing their rumbling growls even from a few dozen feet above them.

CRACK

Something smashes into the ice from below, giant cracks spreading out several dozen yards around the wolves and their prey. This spooks them, the pack taking off at a full sprint from their kill. What the hell? Then the ice shatters, chunks exploding up into the air as a massive ursine creature surfaces. One after another, a dozen or so white-furred bears rise out of the water. The three largest of them are each the size of the entire wolf pack, and will make a much better meal. You continue dropping down from the sky, landing between the creatures and their stolen meal.

“GRRRROOOOAAAAAARR!!” the largest beast bellows, rising up on it’s back legs. Now you’re a big guy, but this beast is easily two if not three times your own height. No doubt such a beast thinks itself king, as you focus your ki sense feel it wields power far greater than anything else for miles and miles. Then to your surprise it’s eyes flash, azure energy gathering around the beast’s giant claws. Looks like this monster is expecting a fight.

Well? How do you handle it?
>Defend, let it attack and counter it’s attempts
>Rush and attack, beat this beast down with raw power
>Death Beam through the head, end it quick
>Super Ki Blade, rush and decapitate it
>Other(write in)
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>>4881011
>>Death Beam through the head, end it quick
pew pew
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>>4881011
>>Death Beam through the head, end it quick
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>>4881011
>Death Beam through the head, end it quick
Come along breakfast, we are hungry.
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>>4881011
>Flip the beast into the air with your Telekinesis and disembowel it with a Death Slash
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>>4881011
>>Defend, let it attack and counter it’s attempts
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>>4881026
>>4881028
>>4881033
>>4881034
>>4881047
Death Beam through the head, end it quick wins it. Roll me a 3d100.
First DC: 30
Second DC: ??
Third DC: 50
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Rolled 95, 8, 34 = 137 (3d100)

>>4881071
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>>4881080
I....what?
Someone save us from my lackluster rolls.
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Rolled 88, 76, 40 = 204 (3d100)

>>4881071
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Rolled 82, 22, 38 = 142 (3d100)

>>4881071
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>>4881092
Okay, someone get the last roll!
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>>4881093
>>4881092
>>4881080
>95,76,40
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>>4881099
So close....
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>>4881011
>Then to your surprise it’s eyes flash, azure energy gathering around the beast’s giant claws.
By the way is that magic? Is that a magical bear or is that a Ki attack?
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>>4881080
>>4881092
>>4881093
95/100, 76/100, 40/100. Two successes and one failure, writing.
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>>4881103
The last one was roll for holding back and not using too much energy on this attack.
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>>4881119
Well if we only take off the head it should be fine I guess.
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>>4881142
>Beam ends up a bit too strong.
>Not much is left from the bear.
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>>4881011
But you’re not here for a fight, you’re here for breakfast. Raising your right hand you simply point a finger at it, and fire off a Death Beam. Your emerald energy pierces right though the beast’s head, the azure vanishing from the beast’s claws as it’s ki signature disappears, body falling backward. It crashes down to the ice with a thud, the other beasts all staring at it confused. The smoking hole between it’s eyes burns, the others recoiling at the smell. The two largest beasts remaining both roar as well, a sound full of bestial rage as their claws begin glowing as well, then they charge. They don’t bother trying to show off their size, intimidating you into running and instead simply bear rush you.

“Easy enough.” you say, turning your right hand to the one rushing from your left. And again you fire your Death Beam, the attack ending the smaller of the two creatures. It dies immediately as well, but as you turn the final bear leaps! “What?”
“GWWRRROOOOAAAAAARRR!!” it bellows, dropping down on you claws-first. Both powerful paws slam into your chest, magically-enhanced blades slicing right through your wedding suit’s undershirt.
“Dammit!!” you snarl, the force of it’s drop knocking you down onto your back. As your back hits the ground you retaliate, planting both feet into the beast’s chest and launch it skyward. Flipping backwards and landing back on your feet, you re-raise your arm and fire another Death Beam. As the monster drops your beam pierces through it’s face, cutting through half it’s face as the monster falls. That one crashes down, cracking the ice a bit where it fell but not smashing through. You turn your gaze on the rest of the ursine creatures, who all immediately run away from you. They all dive back into the water, you feeling their kis rapidly retreating from you and their fallen compatriots. “That’s right, run. Anyways.”

Turning your focus from the more cowardly beasts to your kills, you prepare to dress them down. Drawing a small ki blade you slash each of their guts open, organs spilling out onto the frozen ground in puddles of steam. You then lift them all the carcasses with your telekinesis, leaving the guts behind as you fly them all from the frozen wasteland back towards the village. As you cross away from the frozen biome back across the mountains, blood dripping from your chest, you make your way back to the outskirts of the village. Dropping down at the site of the wedding you set each one of the beast’s atop a different crystal table, and blast each one with your ki. Energy bursts into each seperate corpse, setting them all aflame. The three ursine beasts’ fur begins burning off, cooking their meat for you and your family’s consumption.
cont
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>>4881327
After several minutes the smell is absolutely delicious, you taking a deep breath of the charred meat. This will be a good breakfast, time to share it with the family.

But how?
>Leave it here and wake everyone up, surely nothing will bother it for a few minutes. Right?
>Telepathically reach out to Freeza and have him wake everyone up, you’re not leaving your food alone in this world
>Other?(write in)
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>>4881327
>Telepathically reach out to Freeza and have him wake everyone up, you’re not leaving your food alone in this world
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>>4881327
>Telepathically reach out to Freeza and have him wake everyone up, you’re not leaving your food alone in this world
Ring a ding ding, we got breakfast.
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>>4881327
>>4881333
>>Telepathically reach out to Freeza and have him wake everyone up, you’re not leaving your food alone in this world
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>>4881333
>>Leave it here and wake everyone up, surely nothing will bother it for a few minutes. Right?
>>4881333
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>>4881341
>>4881362
>>4881376
>>4881382
Telepathically reach out to Freeza and have him wake everyone up, you’re not leaving your food alone in this world wins it. You chose...wisely. Writing
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>>4881415
....who has the balls to fuck up today?
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>>4881432
Squiddo the Great of course. Master of the cold waters.
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>>4881435
So fishfry is on the, menu.
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>>4881333
“Hey Freeza, mind waking everyone up?” you ask him telepathically. “Got breakfast ready for everyone.”
“Oh? Not wanting to abandon your meal?” he asks, you almost sensing his chuckle. “Very well. Give me a few minutes to get everyone up, and we’ll be down there shortly.”
“Sounds good, I’ll-“ you think to him, then suddenly feel something. On the edge of your senses you feel something, something surprisingly powerful. “Something’s coming.”
“I don’t sense anything.” he replies, but you can feel his slight unease. “But we’ll be there as soon as we can.”

Freeza ends the mental link, you turning towards the north where the strange powerlevel is coming from. It doesn’t feel quite like anything you’ve ever felt before, and far stronger than anything else you’ve faced on this world. So what in the hell could it be? You track the powerlevel as it approaches, then as it crests the last mountains you see a terrifyingly awesome sight. It’s a massive, pale-white dragon with a wingspan as wide as your old ship!

“GRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAA!!!” it roars, firing a blast of what looks like some sort of white energy in front of it.
“ATTENTION!! Ancient-class White Dragon sighted, approaching the village from the north!” the automated-sounding alarm voice rings. “All Crimson Demons, prepare for immediate battle! I repeat, all Crimson Demons, report for immediate battle!”

As you watch the dragon turns towards you and the large charred corpses, flying right towards you. Seems it must have smelled your prey as you hauled them back from the village, and wants it. But that bastard’s about to learn why you don’t fuck with-

“RRRRRROOOOOOAAAAAARRR!!” it bellows again, white energy once more blasting forth. But with this roar it isn’t a show, transforming into a powerful blizzard that engulfs and blinds you and the entire village! Focusing as the temperature around you drops, you flare your emerald aura up to shield you from the worst of the biting cold. Even still the blood running down your chest freezes to you, frost forming along your body as it’s magical blizzard continues for several seconds. When it finally ends, allowing you to see again, the entire village is covered in several feet of snow! Despite your aura shielding you from the worst of it, the snowdrifts nearby are almost up to your shoulders. This creature is dangerous. Leaping up out of the snow, the dragon’s gaze immediately focuses solely on you. This thing may have frozen your breakfast, but as your stomach grumbles you know what’s going to replace it. Looks like dragon’s on the menu today!

-Saiyan Conqueror Quest 158 paused-
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>>4881487
And that’s it for this weekend, enjoy the thread so far? Are you ready to fight an honest to goodness dragon? Curious what other sorts of magic it knows, and how powerful it really is? Tune in next weekend, for the continuation of this episode of Saiyan Conqueror Quest!
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>>4881499
>Are you ready to fight an honest to goodness dragon?
Oh what? Is he mad about our title too?
>Curious what other sorts of magic it knows, and how powerful it really is?
I'm more curious as to how it tastes.
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>>4881506
No, but it smelled your blood. And now wants a taste too.
Well at least you share interests.
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>>4881499
Oh so we get to actually taste Dragon meat this time? Sweet!
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>>4881574
We really are Dragons, when we get concussions do we accidentally speak their natural language?
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>>4881574
So long as we get to keep its skin and scales, I'm down with whatever.
I'm sure our armorer would have a fun time with such an exotic material.
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>>4881583
You may. If you don’t destroy the body completely
>>4881589
Ha, but no.
>>4881609
Those materials are highly valuable on this world, but aren’t a quality material for armor at PTO levels. They may have fun with it for a time, but it’s not the best armor
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>>4881630
>Those materials are highly valuable on this world
Right, we should probably stick to the planet where people might actually know how to work this shit into something usable.
Regardless, a dragon scale cloak does sound badass right?
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>>4881671
It very much does, yeah, and the Bones could make cool armor, too, or a Badass weapon.
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>>4881671
Especially since White Dragons are so rare. Not many can survive the journey north, batting the monster and winning, and survive carrying back a lot of it. This would greatly fuel Hyoizaburoo’s shop, or could be taken to greater population centers for perhaps more valuable magical trades.
Cloaks and capes are generally a bad idea. They may look cool, but some attacks that would pierce them wouldn’t even affect you. Would only be a vanity piece for you at this point.
>>4881692
Maybe for the magically-attuned
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>>4881777
Hmmm...what could we even use for then?
Besides a rug I mean. I just don't want a genuine white dragon to go to waste.
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>>4881793
>>4881777
....Could we make a cool cradle for our babies out of the skull?
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>>4881777
Would our saiyan scientists be able to do any wacky gene splicing if we brought back some of the White Dragon for them to take a look at? I mean, genetic engineering with a magic-capable apex predator is asking for disaster, but it's a fun thought.
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>>4881793
You wouldn’t have much use for it. However, I’m sure the single most magically-adept people on this planet could find plenty of uses for it. Besides the meat, which is hopefully breakfast
>>4881797
Possibly
>>4881800
It could possibly be used to make even more wildly dangerous Saibamen. But you’ve seen just how dangerous they can be already
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>>4881814
What about project scyther? Is it noncompatable or just a suicidally bad idea?
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Guys, dragons cast a lot of magic, right? So clearly they must also be resistant to other magic in some way, otherwise any other dragon would probably one shot them in a territory battle. As such, we should see if our boy might be able to make any magic resistance gear, for his own benefit (and the rest of the family if they choose to share) from it.
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>>4881814
Alright, so the hide will go to the village and we'll bring some tissue samples to the science team.
I can't wait to see our draconic vegetable warriors.
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>>4881969
Actually now that I think about it, we should just make a habit of collecting tissue samples from particularly powerful creatures we come across.
Imagine the possibilities.
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>>4881969
I think the only thing we could do to tempt catastrophe harder is if we gave the science team phazon. Or if we gave them metroids.
I still kinda want to do it anyways.
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>>4881972
>>4881969
Cell 2: Saiyan boogaloo
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>>4881977
Perfect.
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>>4881936
You’ve seen some of the monstrous creations that team has made. Why not make something that dangerous to even you worse?
>>4881938
Not necessarily. But they are seeped in magic.
>>4881969
I’ll just say this once: Are you SURE you want to do this?
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>>4882008
>I’ll just say this once: Are you SURE you want to do this?
So long as they're grown in New Salda's soil, it should be fine...right?
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>>4882008
Lets make dragon Pokemon with the Science team!
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>IMAGINE
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>>4882117
Imagine this, you son of a bitch
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>people still want to make hilariously super dangerous saibamen
This is about as retarded as being a basic human and actively choosing to go out in the middle of new salda's forests at night. Your just asking to get eaten by the murder wookiees this is so fucking dumb.
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>>4882180
If I want to fistfight sasquatch I'm gonna fucking do it, punk.
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>>4882180
It’s about what I expected from anons here
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>>4882033
>...right?
Define fine. You mean a dragon born not on a peaceful magical world but on a deathworld seeped in the blood of demons and monsters?
>>4882076
It’s something they could possibly do. Just be prepared for the consequences
>>4882117
That’s a lot tamer
>>4882146
Since when does Dresden need glasses?
>>4882180
To be fair, you’re not going to just FIND any of the old natives. Only the oldest, toughest, and anti-social of their kind could potentially have survived
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>>4881499
>Are you ready to fight an honest to goodness dragon?
Can't wait.
>Curious what other sorts of magic it knows, and how powerful it really is?
Sure. By the way I was watching Godzilla vs. Kong recently and they said there that Ghidorah's three heads used telepathy to communicate between each other. Normally when you hear something from Ghidorah it is "ROAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRR". But if you had telepathy maybe you could try talking with it. Karn has telepathy. This made me wonder maybe we could talk to that white dragon?

While it may not speak language that we know, it's not a problem for telepathy. I'm curious if this white one is closer to a wild animal or maybe it has that some of that intellect that Bolas has.
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>>4881487
>magical blizzard continues for several seconds. When it finally ends, allowing you to see again, the entire village is covered in several feet of snow!
After this is over kids will be able to have so much fun. Make a snowman.
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>>4882792
>Since when does Dresden need glasses?
Pretty sure it's a pic of something else.
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>>4882792
Alright point taken, it would be dangerous.
Still, even if they don't use it for Saibamen, I'd love to see what they could use it for anyways.
Even if they eventually try to make the perfect life-form like all mad scientists do.
Still, it would be interesting to see what they cook up given all the genetic sources at their disposal. Off the top of my head they have access to tissue samples from
>Saiyans
>Saldamen
>Project Scyther
>That one mimic they made
>Sanghelli
>Unggoy
>Kig-yar
>Jiralhanae
>Mgalekgolo
>Wookies
>Tamaraneans
>possibly Godzilla/Space Godzilla
>Camels
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>>4881969
>>4882941
Good idea, but also quite dangerous. Then again we can't find any threats for the kids to train. Therefore maybe we can make them ourselves.

Best if we can grow them like Saibamen quick and in large numbers whenever needed. So Saiyan population will have something to fight in a real life and death scenario. So that our kids and the rest of Saiyan population does not forget what it's like to fight. We don't want them to turn soft.

We already saw how shockingly low skilled in fighting was Super Saiyan 4 Karn Jr despite his massive strength in that "What if epilogue with Janemba".

Divide them (those improved Saibamen or something) into tiers.
>"Basic" genetically improved Saiba men for those that are bellow 100K
>Some "with better genetic modifications" Saibamen for stronger warriors
>Some super lethal Saibamen for the elites to train with
You get the idea.

Even Chaya can't find any challenge at Dreadzone most of the time. Imagine planting 100 really powerful genetically improved Saibamen (strong enough to kill students) vs 10 of our students. It would be a real challenge and real learning.

Maybe even we can get some challenge from those strongest creations that scientists will possibly make. This is risky, but... it can pay off too.
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>>4882117
>>IMAGINE
Or maybe something like this.
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>>4883208
>We already saw how shockingly low skilled in fighting
It's not that he was a unskilled or weak. It's more that lacked the inclination to stop fucking around and end things quickly and definitively.
This kinda reminded me of the concept of Violence of Action.
What that refers to is "the unrestricted use of speed, strength, surprise, and aggression to achieve total dominance against your enemy".
Karn Jr. was clearly better than those Wookies in every metric, save for one of the most important factors in a fight to the death.
It just didn't occur to him that instead of just defending himself from his attackers, he should end them quickly and definitively.
Lacking that immediate usage of lethal force could get him killed, so it is still a serious problem. It just so happens that it's almost impossible to avoid given the era he's gonna grow up in.
Now, obviously there are ways to fix that, but how we go about that is another thing entirely.
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>>4883217
I saw that and thought Mega Charzard, and I thought, so be it.
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>>4883224
We need Dragons, more dragons, and maybe a Guardivor.
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>>4883229
While I enjoy the idea of Draconic Saibamen and shit, that's secondary to my actual concern now.
We need to foster some type of environment or training that our kids, or any Saiyan really, can take part in that emulates the conditions Karn's generation grew up fighting in.
Anything to instill the harsh lessons that the next generation is at risk of never learning.
You fight to survive, first and foremost. You don't fuck around.
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>>4883254
Dragon Saibamen, Saiyan scientists working to make dangerous creatures to fight other Saiyans. Mad science for gains.
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>>4883271
We could do it like some Yautja and create a game reserve full of dangerous animals for younglings to prove their worth.
Imagine it. An entire valley of untamed flora and fauna, all of it capable of taking out an unwary Saiyan.
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>>4883292
Pretty sure that is most of the planet.
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>>4883304
Well, yeah, but I mean an area specifically engineered to build some character.
It would also require a little bit of oversight and have some massive fuck-off walls around it.
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>>4883308
So...Jurassic Park, but the end result is actually on purpose this time? Bit convoluted, but sure.
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I'm sensing an awful lot of "WAKU WAKU" in the thread lately.
Maybe GD needs to up the difficulty of the encounters or something.
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>>4883332
I have no idea what that weeb shit means.
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>>4882823
It’s going to be fun.
You can try. But it may not be interested in talking, and more interested in tasting blood it’s never smelled.
>>4882828
Ha
>>4882850
That was the joke. Wizard with a revolver was kinda his schtick for awhile before getting Winter. Oh, uhh, spoilers for those reading it and haven’t read book 12 yet.
>>4882941
>all the genetic sources at their disposal.
>>Camels
>implying they can so much as touch Camali.
>>4883208
This is dangerous ground.
>>4883217
The fuck is that bloated-cheeks having, neon club tailed dragon?
>>4883224
That is one of Karn’s biggest advantages over damn near everyone else. He and Meloka both will absolutely go for an immediate killshot when given the chance. That’s the one reason the Time Patrol(generally) get absolutely smoked. The only one who didn’t last fight was Vegito, but instead of finishing the job he got cocky. As most fusions do.
>>4883254
>>4883292
>>4883308
>>4883310
It is certainly something. And you all may not be the first ones thinking about this issue, others with the King’s ear may already be making plans. Spoiler: You should talk to Tatsu about that, if you’re still interested when you get home
>>4883332
Anons still riding the high of actually ENDING a Supreme Kai of Time. This is mostly aimed at being a timeskip/training arc, but if anons want to potentially ruin their home it’s up to them. Or their superiors with veto power.
>>4883377
He’s saying anons acting like DBS Goku, wanting a fight and consequences be damned
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>>4883377
It's an /a/ meme that people have misconstrued to be an in-depth critique and now parrot everywhere when somebody wants to have the slightest bit of fun at the cost of not being 100% optimal.
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>>4883380
>implying they can so much as touch Camali.
Not at all. But he will certainly spit at them, and that's more than viable as a sample for any super scientist worth their salt.
>That is one of Karn’s biggest advantages over damn near everyone else.
Hence why I want to make sure it's not lost to time just because we're in an era of peace.
>You should talk to Tatsu about that, if you’re still interested when you get home
Alright, onto the list it goes. Besides, it's been a hot minute since we've really went out of our way to talk to him anyhow.
Same with King Vegeta, who would likely agree that it may be a problem in the future.
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>>4883380
>The fuck is that bloated-cheeks having, neon club tailed dragon?
It's:
>"dragon pokemon hybrid" in image search
>then it leads to this: "https://retsnai.tumblr.com/post/78833932460/been-tinkering-with-the-idea-of-a-monster-hunter"
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>>4883332
>Maybe GD needs to up the difficulty of the encounters or something.
It's not about who Karn fights this time. It's not about this at all.
It's about Saiyan next generations that may grow up weak because they did not learn to really fight and survive like their parents.
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>>4883332
>Maybe GD needs to up the difficulty of the encounters or something.
I’d welcome that, honestly. Things have been pretty slow and easy lately and it’s really killing my interest. Though I guess that comes with a time skip/training arc.
>>4883377
>I have no idea what that weeb shit means.
>posts in a weeb shit quest
It’s just a dumb /a/ meme that’s been used to death.
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>>4883226
>>4883229
>>4883254
I agree.
>>4883292
>We could do it like some Yautja and create a game reserve full of dangerous animals for younglings to prove their worth.
>Imagine it. An entire valley of untamed flora and fauna, all of it capable of taking out an unwary Saiyan.
It's a good idea but also bad. Let's not do this like that at all.
GD said this:
>>4883380
>This is mostly aimed at being a timeskip/training arc, but if anons want to potentially ruin their home it’s up to them.
And he has a point.

Let's not do any of that at New Salda. Leave planet fine and as it is, a home worth fighting for.

Instead let's find some different planet and use help of scientists to turn it into a real death world. Filled with dangerous creatures, a playground and test ground for those genetically engineered super Saibamen and other things.

This place would be truly dangerous and a good place for new Saiyans to train. Another good thing about this is that if something went really wrong there, the problem would be contained in a single planet.

Then Karn and family and friends come and destroy the problem and scientists can repopulate the death world where Saiyans can fight and learn to survive in harsh conditions.
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>>4883380
>Spoiler: You should talk to Tatsu about that, if you’re still interested when you get home
I will remember.
>>4883394
>Alright, onto the list it goes. Besides, it's been a hot minute since we've really went out of our way to talk to him anyhow.
>Same with King Vegeta, who would likely agree that it may be a problem in the future.
Good idea.
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>>4883394
That’s implying Camali doesn’t know what they’re up to.
A noble aim. But why risk your world, with an entire universe out there?
There will be plenty to discuss, going home. After dealing with this of course.
>>4883467
Huh, okay.
>>4883480
Yes. Karn(and to a lesser extent Tatsu) are products of their time. Hard times create hard men, hard men create good times. Good times create soft men, soft men create hard times.
>>4883490
He says after the absolute war of last episode.
>>4883515
I’m sure Freeza wouldn’t be opposed to it. And neither would an uprising deity, who’d be very interested in getting such a thing ok’d.
>>4883523
Good. When you finally get back home and into your groove, watching your spawn of the future generation training and comparing it to your own may give Karn second thoughts about how he’s been raising them.
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>>4883545
>A noble aim. But why risk your world, with an entire universe out there?
Fuck, you're right. Death world it is. I figure any planet with high gravity and no civilization would work great.
>watching your spawn of the future generation training and comparing it to your own may give Karn second thoughts about how he’s been raising them
Indeed. For as comprehensive as our training programs have been (far more than any previous era's) we're still missing the vital ingredients that make the kind of warrior that held the line during the Siege of New Salda or took Sanghelios during the Covenant Campaign.
Sure, those soldiers still exist, but it's only a matter of time before they die off and get replaced by the next generation.
It's imperative that we instill these harsh lessons into them so they have the best chance of surviving into the future.
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>>4883545
If there was a hypothetical timeline where the saiyans all died as usual, except Karn survived with Raditz, Nappa, and Vegeta as a member of their 'team'...
How would things shake out on Earth in that timeline? I like to think he'd arrive on Earth either with Raditz, willing to help him find his brother and such, or between Raditz's arrival and Vegeta/Nappa's as an in-between fight.
I wonder how he'd mesh with the canon cast's personality at that point in time...and if they'd stand a ghost of a chance with whatever his PL would be at that time. If we're generous, we can estimate it to be whatever it was at the very start with some off assumption that he never took the more challenging missions for whatever reasons.
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>>4883596
Looked it up.
>2830
Yeah, he'd be a perfect in-between fight for when Goku is dead and the rest of the Z Fighters have to step the fuck up to deal with him.
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>>4883596
As it stands, I imagine Karn tagging along with Nappa and Vegeta would make things a completely one-sided shit stomping in favor of the Saiyans.
And I mean one that even Goku's bullshit gains couldn't surmount.
At that point we could just give Goku the ultimatum of "join or die", which he might just take in the hopes that he could get strong enough to win his planet's freedom back.
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>>4883601
Slightly off the mark there.
It would be 2,830 plus 28 years of fighting and training alongside his squad.
With his "canon" gains, I'd put Karn's power level somewhere around the 20,000 to 25,000 mark, with Raditz flying at 15k, Nappa around 35k, and Vegeta at a clean 60K.
Strong enough to be almost invincible on Earth, but still weak enough to justify being subservient to Frieza.
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>>4883574
Exactly. Don’t forget you’re basically the number two now of a nearly Universe-spanning empire. Basically you ask for anything from Freeza within reason, it’s yours.
And ensuring the next generations don’t lose the bloody lessons your generation learned will be tantamount. There are still less than one million living Saiyans.
>>4883596
Karn being chosen for Vegeta’s team? Well, at the time of potentially being selected he’d already unlocked False Super Saiyan, so no canon team would stand a chance. Taking that out and limiting him to only be as strong as Nappa, those two would have been more than enough to completely eliminate the earthling team and raze the planet long before Goku arrived. So no save for Goku from Gohan, Krillin, and Yajirobe. GG no re, dead under monkey feet.
Or if Karn showed up between Raditz and Vegeta, and only as strong as Nappa with no Saibamen, team Earth wouldn’t stand a chance. Those casualties would spell the end for the rest of them with Vegeta’s arrival.
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>>4883764
Honestly, the between-raditz-and-vegeta scenario would be the most interesting to me.
I could see him showing up, killing some of them, but either eventually being convinced to stop slaughtering them with a heartfelt enough plea (he's a genocidal soldier, but he's certainly not heartless)...or getting got by the Mafuba since he's there alone. Roshi certainly knows it, but a lot of people forget that Tien does too.
And (some) of the z-fighters could be brought back with Goku if the wish was worded just right.
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>>4883869
I mean if Karn showed up after they offed Raditz the Z-fighters would have been ultra fucked. Half of them would be killed instantly and the only thing that would stop him would be hearing that if Piccolo or Kami went then the magic balls would stop working.

So pretty much only those two would survive. Raditz, Nappa and Geets fuck around a lot. Karn has no chill.
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>>4883869
>he's a genocidal soldier, but he's certainly not heartless
It’s still Karn, who eouldn’t show mercy to a peoples who killed one of the last surviving members of his race.
>Mafuba
The most dangerous technique on that Earth still. And don’t forget, there are still TWO old students of Mutaito who could know it, and then anyone they taught.
>And (some) of the z-fighters could be brought back with Goku if the wish was worded just right.
Oh yeah, “Bring back everyone killed by the Saiyan’s in the last year.” would save farmer too.
>>4884005
A valid point. Especially AFTER Raditz fucked around and found out.
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>>4884014
>Farmer gets brought back with the others
Alright, now that's a gamechanger.
>There are still TWO old students of Mutaito who could know it, and then anyone they taught.
Yeah, that's fair. My best guess for why Tien/Chiaotsu didn't try it is that with two enemies present, the odds of one freeing the other would have been too high, and...for whatever reason they just fucked off and didn't exist when Raditz was being a bitch.
Doesn't at all explain why they didn't do shit with it against Cell though. Tien even got a fucking sneak attack on cell to hold him off, and his choice was to spam neo tribeam instead? What the fuck dude.
Anyways, that rant aside, the Karnjar™ would definitely end up being opened again later in a non-canon movie somehow set post saiyan-invasion pre-namek. Maybe as a sequel to Tree of Might.
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>>4884039
>tfw movie jarkarn never went super saiyan but instead did nothing but meditate and train himself by punching himself in the face and screaming to flex his muscles really hard
>its been nearly a decade
>comes out of the jar and everyone's blowing him off because there are a bunch of super saiyans around and everyone got stronger
>karn immediately murders roshi, tien, and chiaotzu
>super stronk as fuck to their shock
>finally starts getting worn down by numbers and super saiyan bullshit
>vegeta gloats about raditz and nappa being weaklings that would never amount to a super saiyan's power, and neither could karn
>goku lets slip geets offed nappa
>karn's absolute fury at one of the last of their species being betrayed by their prince makes him go super saiyan
How much oof can you pack into one movie, you think?
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>>4884097
I’ll do you one better for this decades-later film.
>Every hour of his imprisonment makes his resentment and anger grow.
>Countless days suffering the indignity of this imprisonment.
>Months on end of not being able to avenge his fallen comrade, and someone he may have seen as an adoptive son at that point given his inclination.
>Years spent knowing he wasn’t there for the rest of his comrades when they’d come later this year, and his continued imprisonment leads him to conclude they too failed.
>Comes out pissed as fuck and murdering the shit out of everyone who knows the technique that sealed him.
>PL keeps rising as his Wrath starts to overtake him, and years of simmering in anger makes the rampup swift and his energy control is insane
>Beat Piccolo into the ground brutally enough to cripple him for at least a few hours even with regeneration, breaking a few mountains in the process.
>Gohan stepped in to try to stop the beatdown, but he just got an asskicking too because of the rampup.
>Partially comes out of Wrath when meeting Goku, since he looks just like his old comrades Turles and Bardock.
>Goku starts winning, until Vegeta finally goes to see what the hell is going on.
>Karn fully breaks out of Wrath, gets the skinny of the situation from geets.
>”Oh, Nappa? I killed that fool when he lost to this idiot. He was useless to me at that point.”
>Legendary.exe
Karn’s Return: The Furious Rise of a Legendary Super Saiyan
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>>4884129
Would half the movie be from Karn's perspective in the jar just thinking and having flashbacks until he gets let out then it shifts back to Z-fighter PoV?
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>>4884161
1/3rd of it is background flashbacks at various points. 1/3 is the wrathmode beatdown, and the final 1/3 is the struggle against Legendary Karn until he finally loses to a combined attack from the surviving fighters that almost fails until Piccolo, still beaten and broken, snipes him with a special beam cannon. He almost avoids it due to his instincts, but the chunk it tears out of his side proves enough to let the combined beams beat his own.
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>>4884097
>>4884129
>>4884161
>>4884169
A story about a true hero being betrayed. Everyone would root for Karn in the theatres.
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>>4884171
"Hero" is a bit of a stretch, but he would certainly be something of a sympathetic character.
Might work as a series of epilogues if GD ever feels like poaching ideas from the peanut gallery again.
I'd also like to meet this hypothetical Karn at some point. I feel like he'd finally be at peace knowing that in some way, we all made it.
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>>4884182
>implying he wouldn't get broken out of hell and make a beeline to murder vagooter
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>>4884196
>implying he wouldn't train so hard he breaks out of hell just to murder the traitors that killed their own kind.
>said movie is right before the janemba bullshit.
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Alright so the short list is as follows
>Keep up the Berserker training and meditation with Broly
>Ask Chilli about his odd behavior recently
>Talk with Tatsu and Nappa about the next generation
>Request from Frieza a planet in our system to turn into a death world for training purposes
>begin some type of passive training (to be determined)
>master fucking Force Lightning already
>Polish up on our Djem-So and begin learning Juyo
>help Bardock master his Golden Oozaru form and unlock Primal
>try and get some more sparring in with Camali
Anything I'm missing?
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>>4884539
I feel like Chilli's odd behavior can be struck off the list. After all, he's starting to do better, and he knows he can come to us at any point if he needs to. I also really don't get why Camali and Force Lightning are there. We never really bother with Rope-a-Dope, and Force Lightning is only good for being a sadistic fuck, which doesn't do the whole 'killing people' thing that Karn loves his moves to do.
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>>4884655
>After all, he's starting to do better, and he knows he can come to us at any point if he needs to
Why not just take the initiative now that he kinda trusts us again?
>We never really bother with Rope-a-Dope
Fair, but I feel like it's the only definitive hand-to-hand style we've actually learned. Su-ma and Djem-So are sword styles, and their strengths reflect this.
Though I will say, I think the time is gonna come soon to where we start to make our own style specifically suited to our problems.
>Force Lightning is only good for being a sadistic fuck
If you're a sadist, sure. While it's certainly good for inflicting excruciating pain, it does actually have utility beyond that.
For example, you could use it to
>immobilize or outright kill multiple opponents
>turn metallic weapons against their users
>effortlessly destroy mechanical combatants (one of the few things that can possibly evade Karn's detection)
>create lasting storms to deny an enemy from entering a certain area
It has its uses, even if it is a barbarous and cruel technique.
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>>4884686
Both Su-Ma and Djem-So can be used just fine unarmed, though, and even if they were sword-only, we can literally create a Ki Sword on command.

As for the uses of Force Lightning... We already have those uses covered by other moves.

>Multiple opponents

Scattershot or Scatter-beam. Or even just Eye beams.

>Turn Metallic Weapons against their users

Death Beam through it, since 99% of the time they have some kind of volatile core in order to be useful at our level.

>Effortlessly destroy mechanical combatants
This I'll give you that Karn doesn't really have any particular options for, but also said mechanical combatants can have anti-surge precautions, which would presumably make them very resistant to Force Lightning.

>Create lasting storms to deny an enemy from entering a certain area

Ki Mines, and other moves related to it, do this a lot better and easier.
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>>4884039
Because a fast enough opponent can dodge it, and it’s doubtful Tien taught that move to Chiaotzu. The whole Raditz affair was only an hour or so long as well, and at that point Tien/Chiaotzu/Yamcha didn’t possess the ability to sense ki.
Without a sealing container marked correctly, he couldn’t use it. And only Roshi or another Mutaito student can make them currently.
>>4884097
A more canon Vegeta facing the wrath of a real Saiyan would make a good movie.
>>4884129
Now that’s a feature
>>4884539
Those are options
>>4884655
Chilli’s a kid who just suffered intense trauma. Not as fucked up as post-Freeza Kid Gohan, but still awful.
>>4884686
>>immobilize
You walked through it when Bane unleashed a storm on you. Only really immobilizes the weak-willed. But anon makes a better point, almost everything on Karn’s skill list is meant to just outright commit a murder. Lightning just isn’t.
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>>4884539
I'm not interested in lightning, I just want to learn the more esoteric/cool force abilities.
Honestly surprised we haven't learned more sith abilities yet.
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>>4884539
For the list:
Berserker stuff is fine

Chilli is slowly healing, by being with his now wife, and us supporting him when he needs it, he knows we're there for him. Let him be the one who comes to us about his problems.

Agreed with the Next Gen stuff.

Freeza stuff is part of the chain of talking with Tatsu imo.

Passives are fine.

Fuck Force Lightening. Spend that time learning Juyo or bettering our Precog so its combat viable.

Djem-So is fine.

Meh on Bardock. Thats not something we can help with at all. He needs a higher base PL and just more practice in general holding the form.

Fucking Camali. Hes cool but we're already going all in Djem-So which is a better defensive counter attack style.
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>>4884539
We should ask bane if he knows any forms of moving meditation and see if we can combine it with our Broly style
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>>4884878
I seem to remember a Jedi training method that involved levitating a number of steel balls in a specific pattern around one's self before eventually destroying them with specific lightsaber movements.
The end goal being to increase spatial awareness, improve subtle telekinesis, and increase the speed and precision of one's dueling.
Such a thing was also done while meditating, similar to any repetitive action meant to distract from outside thoughts and intrusions.
As for what else Bane might know specifically? I have no idea, but any good Sith knows how to temper their extreme emotions so as not to become a slave to them.
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>>4884539
I think we’ve kinda outgrown Force Lightning as a useful technique. Opponent on our level probably wouldn’t be too affected by it, it’d only really be good for eliminating large groups of mooks at this point.
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QM UPDATE

4 1/2 posts in on the Chaya epilogue, that takes place both before and after when she was telepathically speaking to Karn. And now we’ll get to see if Vox’s investments into more powerful weapons is worth the money. In the meantime, how have you been enjoying this arc? Enjoying the two-week threads more, or would you prefer going back to new episodes weekly? Liking the slower pace, and focusing on the interactions? Ready to start seriously training, and to start reaching for the next level? What are some of the different passives you -think- might be options available to choose from? And last but not least, which arc/moment so far has been your favorite?
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>>4884539
Fuck force lightning, we don't need it and have more important shit to do, like Hamon.
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>>4885418
Yeah, this coming Slice of Life, Pokemon Jurassic Park planning, and character interactions we've been missing.
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>>4885613
What? You didn’t finish your sentence.
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>>4885418
I think the two-week threads work better for the peace arc, but I personally would prefer going back to one thread a week once the battles pick back up, next arc. Slower pace and interactions are definitely my thing, though a lot of anons seem to be itching to get right back into the action. Training's gonna be hell, as it always is with how many options and anons we have.

My -hopes- for options for Passives are

Hamon Breathing
Weird Ki particulate aura sense that was mentioned
Force Precog
Energy Body

And, my personal favorite arc so far would have to be the latest Covenant War, particularly the Siege of New Salda.
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>>4885704
Internet keeps going out, and 4chan eats it. Its going to be great*
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>>4885704
>>4885711
The impatient faggots can sit and spin, we finally have a chance, for all the character interactions we have been missing out on for the past few years. Both literally, and figuratively. If 2 week threads mean they are long and bigger updates, than sure, plus the epilogues. That would be great, I don't want to blow through this coming Peace Arc.
>Hamon Breathing
Just unconscious permanent Hamon breathing would be super cool.
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>>4885711
>training hell
Fortunately I’ve learned from my previous mistakes, so training options are going to be a lot more streamlined.
Those are the ones I’ve outlined or at least hinted at so far.
Those are two wildly separate yet similar arcs anon. But look how far Karn came in just a few years.
>>4885749
Makes a little more sense now.
>>4885759
>I don't want to blow through this coming Peace Arc.
Same. Once this arc reaches it’s end, well. Let’s just say that the Covenant’s fall was the end of an era, and a new one begins this arc. By the end of this anime training arc, several years will have passed. And it will be time to face the Destroyer
>permanent Hamon breathing would be super cool.
That route does carry risk. Not to you, but extended exposure to you would inevitably cause skin cancer in those around you. At least if your Hamon is only as powerful as Joseph’s breathing, and not let’s say Kars’
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>>4885842
>Same. Once this arc reaches it’s end, well. Let’s just say that the Covenant’s fall was the end of an era, and a new one begins this arc. By the end of this anime training arc, several years will have passed. And it will be time to face the Destroyer

Oh fuck. Feels like going from being the All-American in college ball and then moving up to the pros and being right back at the bottom.
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>>4885854
I get the same feeling. And you know how every rookie earns their stripes.
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>>4885860
>Dude fucking rockets over his head
God damn was he trying to tear his head off?
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>>4885860
Yeeeep.

>>4885861

That's the idea of the sport, and this stage of the game specifically, lol.

All that said though, as much as raising Karn's PL and acquiring special tricks are important for us, it makes it all the more important to make sure our legacy and our children are set up for success. The reason that the divine is so repulsive to us is the rottenness- the corruption and refusal to cede power to a more capable entity. We won't be the ones to do the same when it ends up Karnworld- because we'll have plenty of successful, well educated, bad ass heirs.
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>>4885861
There's a reason you see them wearing all those fucking pads.
That said, it only makes em hit harder.
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>>4885418
>Enjoying the two-week threads more, or would you prefer going back to new episodes weekly?
It works for this slower-paced arc. Maybe once we get to the next arc we could go back.
>Liking the slower pace, and focusing on the interactions?
Slow pace has never been my thing, but I enjoy just having simple conversations with our friends and family.
>Ready to start seriously training, and to start reaching for the next level?
Absolutely. I’m eager to get a break from these side quests and get started on improving ourselves.
>What are some of the different passives you -think- might be options available to choose from?
Who knows.
>And last but not least, which arc/moment so far has been your favorite?
As I usually say, Karns first transformation into Berserker and that arc as a whole was my favorite.
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>>4885418
I just want to see if Raditz got a lot stronger to be accepted as Chaya’s boyfriend.
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>>4885854
Going on to a whole new league with your next form. And will be able to compete against Freeza again.
>>4885860
He held it, good on him.
>>4885862
That is one advantage Karn has, even over his own people. He’s creating something more powerful than himself in building a dynasty, a lineage of the strongest.
>>4885885
Good to know
>I’m eager to get a break from these side quests and get started on improving ourselves
Good news and bad news. This arc is all about training and side quests. This arc is about how you’re shaping the future, both of yourself and your family.
That was a good thread. Still one of my personal highlights, as far as writing for characters go.
>>4886253
He’s certainly not stopping his training anytime soon
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>>4886348
>Going on to a whole new league with your next form. And will be able to compete against Freeza again
Thank god. We've been left in the dust for a hot minute, and I've been waiting to get to the form that could potentially kill Beerus of all people.
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And I'm finally caught up after three weeks of reading the archive, damn that was a looooooooooooong ride.
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>>4884097
>>4884129
>>4884161
>>4884169

I’d totally watch this movie. I have a perfect add on though.

>Berserker Karn beating Vegeta into the dirt and telling him he’s unworthy to be a Prince, let alone the King of Saiyans.
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>>4884039
>>4884097
>>4884129
>>4884169
I would watch those movies. If the animated them like latest Broly that would be really nice.
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>>4886514
As much as I like the look of the new Broly movie, I think I'd prefer another aesthetic for Karn.
He would be a relic of a bygone era, so why not reflect that in his movie? Make it look like Deadzone. Classic Dragon Ball style taken to the nth degree.
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>>4886517
That's a good idea too Deadzone aesthetic is very nice too. If I would vote for another aesthetic for Karn's movie it would be something like this picture. That old Dragon Ball Z vibe.
And that type of sound track:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lttvfc3ywJs
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>>4885418
>Enjoying the two-week threads more, or would you prefer going back to new episodes weekly?
I enjoying the two-week threads more.
>>4885418
>Liking the slower pace, and focusing on the interactions?
I like them very much.
As much as great and exciting the great war with Covenant ark was it also had this certain side:
>Karn meets some character that he did not seen in while.
>"It's been ages since we seen each other."
>"What have you been doing lately?"
>"How about we... never mind got to go back the war. Covenant is trying to destroy us again..."
>"See you some other time..."
There are so many interesting characters in this quest but during war all we could do was do see some of them super briefly and hope that after war we get to more time to hang out.
I still want to meet with Leyas and Sarada for example, we were suppose to test how strong their demon forms became.
By the way their powers are probably not the same as Karn's kids.

>Kids have Saiyan and Demon blood in them
Sarada's and Leyas' new bodies were made somewhat artificially by Demongo's powers. It's not the same and I am curious about it.
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>>4886348
>Good news and bad news. This arc is all about training and side quests
Good, we didn't actually do many side quests and I want to 100% the game right now.
>>4886451
>>4886514
Karn only wins by killing a few and then getting driven off. He needs to survive and find Broly and Paragus.
>>4886517
>>4886590
Perfect.
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>>4885418
>Ready to start seriously training, and to start reaching for the next level?
Sure. I can't wait.
>>4885885
>I’m eager to get a break from these side quests and get started on improving ourselves.
>break from these side quests
I feel like we haven't really done a much side quests yet if any, and I want to finally start doing them.
>Chilli's Wedding? That's a part of the main plot. Not a side quest.
>Training with students? Also feels like part of the main plot. Nothing from a side quest about it.
>The thing with a medallion of Shinnok, green artificer, getting into middle of war with Bolas was unexpected. I don't know whether it counts as side quest or not. It was awesome anyway.
>The thing that felt most like a side quest was that emergency with Scyther at the lab. I liked it a lot.

Those Mindbreakers under the sea. What's there?
That chasm that opened in the underground where we found present for Chilli. Where does it leads?
And more.

I'm excited about this whole Arc we are having now. I don't want to rush through it and realize we interacted with almost nobody and did almost nothing.
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>>4886348
>Good news and bad news. This arc is all about training and side quests.
Guess I’ll get strapped in for the long haul.
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>>4884539
>>Talk with Tatsu and Nappa about the next generation
Include into this Vegeta too.
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>>4886641
I'd count the Bolas war and Shinnok's gem bullshit to be a random event that happened too us, not a proper side quest. Technically speaking anyways.
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>>4886641
Eh, I guess it just comes down to me not really being interested in the people and fictional properties we’ve interacted with so far this arc like: Chilli, MK, isekai shit, MtG and Pokemon. Just not really me cup of tea. Those Mindflayers are interesting though, looking forward to delving into what the fuck is up with them.
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>>4886433
He’s been a good distance ahead of you for awhile. And will for the future have a powerful edge on form mastery. How many years has he had Golden now?
>>4886442
Let’s go!
>>4886590
Brings me back.
>>4886595
Yeah, during an aggressive war not a lot of time to sit and chat. They both may surprise you, haven’t updated their numbers in a bit.
True. But combining demon magic with their dna(via skulls) is what recreated their bodies. They may be more, or less, demon than your half-demon kids.
>>4886598
Ha.
>>4886641
>>The thing that felt most like a side quest was that emergency with Scyther at the lab. I liked it a lot.
That was just the first part of that plot. More will happen down the line, as you’ve already met.
We’ve barely scratched the surface of this one.
>>4886644
The side quests lead into unlocking different trainings, including some as potentially game-breaking as getting Instant Transmission was. Plus I’ll do my best to make sure each one is interesting and exciting, although the stakes are going to stay lower than the last arc’s.
>>4886673
>to be a random event that happened too us, not a proper side quest.
Not proper side quest(s) YET. Especially Shinnok’s amulet, that side quest isn’t anywhere close to over. In fact that was the prologue. Did you really think Raven’s magic could truly hide it from a god, once the box’s seal was broken? Those that were searching for it now know which realm it’s in, if not the exact planet too. Trunks isn’t the last big fight Karn’ll get this arc, believe me. I’m not here to make a BORING quest.
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>>4886680
Then why are you even here?
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>>4886691
Because I’ve been here since the beginning. If I dropped every quest because of a single temporary gripe I’d never have any fun.
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>>4886690
>Yeah, during an aggressive war not a lot of time to sit and chat. They both may surprise you, haven’t updated their numbers in a bit.
I miss our old crew, we haven't seen them much since our promotion and rescue operation.
>The side quests lead into unlocking different trainings, including some as potentially game-breaking as getting Instant Transmission was. Plus I’ll do my best to make sure each one is interesting and exciting, although the stakes are going to stay lower than the last arc’s.
We can finally get on Grand Dragon's Wild Ride, and reach the end! Because plot was happening so damn fast we never had time.
> Did you really think Raven’s magic could truly hide it from a god, once the box’s seal was broken? Those that were searching for it now know which realm it’s in, if not the exact planet too.
So what your saying is, we're going to be killing more demons again in the near future. Well its a good enough way to see Doomguy again, or does he have his Flying Space Fortress Monastery of Awesomeness and Demon Slaying?
>I’m not here to make a BORING quest.
Shut the fuck up, your not capable of it, there are retards that want to skip worldbuilding, character development, and side quests for upgrades. But we call them faggots and move on.
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>>4886726
Charming as usual, anon.
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>>4886690
>including some as potentially game-breaking as getting Instant Transmission was.
Still hoping we can improve on that to make it even more broken, as you hinted with that Jiren gif way back.
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>>4886690
Man I've been rereading the quest for a week or two now, just finished thread 100/101 with that clusterfuck of a time war.

Looking back at that talk with the Supreme Kai of Time and Karn about Amayas Timeline, and the consequences of our interference, I'm wondering what Chrona is thinking looking back at that talk given one of her selves recent erasures?

Same for that warning we gave her back when our demon kids had to leave New Salda and we told her we'd never stop until our family was able to be together permanantly.
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>>4886747
Ayyyyyye
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>>4886770
>I'm wondering what Chrona is thinking looking back at that talk given one of her selves recent erasures?
I hope she’s regretting having ever fucked with us. It’s really a testament to her hubris that she chose to show up to a battle with us when we have a one-shot attack that made even Mechi worried.
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>>4886794
Pink Bitch learning a lesson and regretting her actions? HA, no way.
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>>4886801
I think we've actually shown her the thing she's feared most.
A single individual who won't bow down despite the overwhelming advantage she holds. Worse yet, that advantage is rapidly going away as said individual is training like a madman and unlocking powers to not only rival, but surpass the gods.
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>>4886801
The arrogance of the Kai race truly knows no bounds. Hopefully we can reform our Shin so he doesn’t get culled with the rest of them.
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>>4886815
I feel like it could go either way. While we’ve shown her that we’re capable of killing an entity as powerful as her, she’s also an incredibly stubborn person and this might lead her into doubling down on her anti-Karn shenanigans. We can only hope that this event knocked some sense into her.
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>>4886815
>I think we've actually shown her the thing she's feared most.
She was right all along, we were the problem, it doesn't matter how we came to kill her, only that we did. It ain't her fault in the slightest. Nope.
>Worse yet, that advantage is rapidly going away as said individual is training like a madman and unlocking powers to not only rival, but surpass the gods.
A few key wishes like say, being able to move even if time is stopped. Means she has to fight, and if it comes to blows, we will maul her, piece by piece.
>>4886832
Common sense goes out the window when she loses chunks of her personality and then erases their existence till naught but Pink Bitch remains.
>>4886817
We can finally make our Dreadzone God Beatdown event.
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I feel like we're naturally gonna be doing more of the Scientist side quests given that we're probably gonna need them for the death world project.
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>>4886841
I'm not sold on the death world stuff. Saiyans aren't going to become clueless just because there's no risk of covenant soldiers uncloaking and shanking them. There's still going to be a drive for them to seek out true danger and become stronger without us making a killer playground that only some of the population might go to. If anything the bottleneck they've gone through has probably planted the seeds of the "survivor mentality" into saiyan society better than anything we could do artificially.
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>>4886863
The mentality sure, but that only goes so far when going to the gym. We need to make challenges that they can overcome and actually experience.
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>>4886726
>I miss our old crew, we haven't seen them much
Is a problem when friends put you on a pedestal.
>and reach the end!
Ha. This ride only ends one way.
>Shut the fuck up, your not capable of it
Appreciate that anon. But go back to the Hive arc, and I was certainly capable of it then. Hopefully I just avoid making those early mistakes again.
>>4886756
It is a very improvable technique. Especially by taking a certain passive.
>>4886770
“I knew I should have just erased him when I had the chance.”
>>4886794
>when we have a one-shot attack that made even Mechi worried.
She wasn’t fully aware of Divine Dragon Force’s powers, and how it interacted with her own. She’ll be much more careful now, knowing she can’t simply undo the attack.
>>4886801
Well she learned that underestimating Karn could actually carry consequences. If you’d hit the most recent, current SKoT when she summoned herselves, it could have ended her.
>>4886832
>and this might lead her into doubling down on her anti-Karn shenanigans
>might
HAAA!!
>>4886838
Remember, Freeza isn’t as selfish as he was in canon. And thanks to you explaining the Dragonballs more, Freeza’s going to be interested in them. But not for immortality’s sake.
>>4886841
Would depend on how hands-on you all choose, and keep choosing to be. Side quests are optional, but each one is also going to be time sensitive to a point.
>>4886863
Tatsu is 72, Karn is 37. Chaya is 15, Tatsu&Tomi are 9. In just a few generations the killer instinct can be lost, if not properly cultivated. And sure, not everyone will use it. But having it a proving ground, surviving it a coming of age ritual for those who desire warrior-hood, would greatly preserve that warrior spirit across generations. Granted, this whole exercise is under the assumption that no other organization would possess courage enough to attack the deadliest-known race of fighters in the universe
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>>4886863
I’m in support of it solely to instill that killer instinct in Karn Jr. Not about to slack off on any of his potential.
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>>4886906
>Hopefully I just avoid making those early mistakes again.
It’s good that you recognize shortcomings, sign of a good writer. You’ve improved leaps and bounds constantly throughout this quest. It’s pretty impressive.
>HAAA!!
Well, looks like she’s a lost cause for certain.
>Freeza’s going to be interested in them. But not for immortality’s sake.
inb4 Freeza wishes to be 5cm taller
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>>4886906
>Is a problem when friends put you on a pedestal.
God damnit, they know they can come over for BBQ whenever right?
>But go back to the Hive arc, and I was certainly capable of it then. Hopefully I just avoid making those early mistakes again.
Again, faggots that are impatient tards.
>“I knew I should have just erased him when I had the chance.”
Suck it Pink Bitch, you aren't worth shit, and it is entirely your damn fault.
>Well she learned that underestimating Karn could actually carry consequences. If you’d hit the most recent, current SKoT when she summoned herselves, it could have ended her.
Because we're going to eradicate her, its a moot point of how many times we have to kill her. It will stick, eventually.
>HAAA!!
Some people have no attention span, some have no ability to recognize patterns. That is someone that has both problems.
>Remember, Freeza isn’t as selfish as he was in canon. And thanks to you explaining the Dragonballs more, Freeza’s going to be interested in them. But not for immortality’s sake.
Is he going to wish it for his best friend?
>In just a few generations the killer instinct can be lost, if not properly cultivated. And sure, not everyone will use it. But having it a proving ground, surviving it a coming of age ritual for those who desire warrior-hood, would greatly preserve that warrior spirit across generations. Granted, this whole exercise is under the assumption that no other organization would possess courage enough to attack the deadliest-known race of fighters in the universe
We need to drum into their heads that their is always someone stupid enough to try and commit suicide. And one of those ways is starting a war with Saiyans.

FUCK YOU CAPTCHA, YOU CAN CONNECT YOU PIECE OF SHIT! I just got a new phone with a good hotspot, but its saying its ip banned when I just got the damn thing, and my current internet is slow as fuck! Why must I suffer this faggotry?
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>>4886954
>but its saying its ip banned when I just got the damn thing,
Same thing when I try to phonepost. I’m only able to phonepost when I’m connected to mine or someone else’s WiFi.
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>>4886971
4Chan doesn't allow posting from on Data. You have to be using proper Wifi so that you can't constantly change IP. Same reason some popular VPNs are unusable.
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>>4886980
oh no the big scary dynamic ip

kek
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>>4886981
That is fucking retarded! Chink just wants his damn gook bucks!
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>>4886980
That sucks. I used to abuse that to shit up Trick’s quests back in the day.
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>>4886984
Who?
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>>4886991
Trick is a QM that used to post on /tg/ and /qst/ and would derail and take over quests and turn them into dumb shitposts. He’s been banned multiple times and now writes smutquests on Akun or somewhere.
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>>4886984
This also reminded me that I met a guy through discord that posted here and would abuse the dynamic IP to triple post and skew the votes to what he wanted.
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>>4886906
So now that the covenant is straight fucked,
How many Sangheili deserters had joined up with the PTO prior to their defeat? Was there another Schism among that race?
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>>4887098
Probably none. The Sangheili don't betray their own...except the clan leaders who regularly send assassin's at each other, but that's more a test to see if they're really good enough to lead.
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>>4887123
>They don't betray their own
Bullshit they don't, the schism even happened in canon.
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>>4887146
The Great Schism was when the San'shyuum betrayed the Sangheili and installed the Jiralhanae as their new guards.
The Sangheili were unified as a species at that point.
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>>4886927
>sign of a good writer
More of a sign I can see, and aren’t too proud to admit to faults
And no, he’s not the petty tyrant he turned out in canon. He has a very specific wish. Also he’s still unaware of what Caulifla did for King Cold.
>>4886954
You can see this all the time. Your peers elevate you because of your latent gifts, then slowly quit approaching you as they’ve become accustomed to thinking you’re “better” than them. A vicious cycle on both sides.
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>>4886980
Certain ones don’t work. What I had to do this past weekend when I couldn’t post was disconnect from my current cell data for around 20ish seconds, reconnected and it worked again. If anyone knows the ins and outs of phoneposting, it’s me!
>>4887098
>deserters
The last Sangheili, as any sizeable force able to reproduce their race, are in negotiations. None switched sides, fearing the Dragon’s wrath too greatly, but did simply abandon their posts and flee into the far reaches.
>>4887160
This. Also, they don’t have their homeworld anymore. Yet. Depending on how negotiations go, that may change.
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Test
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>>4887165
GD is genius at phone tech support, the retardation has ended. Based GM.
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>>4887196
Turns out GD isn't a midwest redneck, he's actually an Indian man.
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>>4887221
Time to recalculate the coordinates, we’re catapulting these PC’s to India.
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>>4887196
I’ve been doing this for four years, have had to trial and error my way through it.
>>4887221
HAAA! But no, haven’t written bobs and vagane once before now
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>>4887304
Say GD, how much galactic territory does Cooler possess? Or was that all confiscated when King Cold gave him a spanking?
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>>4887304
>I’ve been doing this for four years, have had to trial and error my way through it.
It feels weird having decent connection now.
>>4887315
This, how much did Cunter use to have before he got daddies belt?
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>>4887315
That could be spoiling, so can’t say.
>>4887338
It’s magic
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>>4887343
It is, it really is.
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>>4887343
Considering you’ve introduced Konosuba and Tanya, do you have any plans to complete the isekai quartet in this quest?
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>>4887401
Don't the other two explicitly go into videogames?
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>>4887416
Nah, They both get transported to another real world. In the case of Ainz he was isekai’d from a video game to a real world.
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>>4887416
I think it's just the Overlord guy that goes into a vidyagame.
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>>4887401
>implying anyone wants anything to do with nazaricks magical death world
>implying anything of re:zero is relevant other then Subaru being essentially immortal because every time he dies time simply resets from a checkpoint.
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>>4887590
>>implying anyone wants anything to do with nazaricks magical death world
Freezes will once he sees the power and might of Ainz’ patented RUNECRAFT™ weapons.
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>>4884539
Better IT if you could add it
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>>4887401
Not particularly as of yet. One has virtually nothing to add, and the other would just create obstacles to surmount.
>>4887926
>implying they can compete with what Freeza is now. He’s a better one-shot cannon, in that he has millions of shots
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>>4888497
Speaking of Freezas power, I wonder if the dude even has a peak in terms of power growth. He really gives off the impression that he’s such a genetic freak that he has no upper limit.
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>“Karn?” Towa asks, you addressing the Supreme Kai of Time herself.
“I’ll go peacefully, on one condition.” you say, the Kai just raising an eyebrow and not saying anything. You take this as a go-ahead, continuing. “Tell me Supreme Kai, what favor did my daughter cash in? What did she have to do, what price did she pay to make this happen?”
“She saved reality itself.” the Supreme Kai of Time says, you just staring at her in confusion. “A Demon God, Demigra, broke into the Time Nest. Had Chaya not aided Ace, their combined powers destroying that insane deity, all of our timelines would have been utterly destroyed.”
“And for all that, she only got to spend a few hours here in my time?” you ask, fuming. But before you can say anything else, Towa’s hand clamps down harder on your shoulder. The Kai still says nothing, waiting. So you turn to leave, giving a final warning to her over your shoulder. “I’ll tell you now, Supreme Kai Of Time: I finally know what it’s like for my family to be together and happy like I always wanted. And I am not going to let this be a one time thing. I swear, that one day, I’ll become strong enough that you won’t dare to come between us. No matter how long it takes.”

Chrona is only just now starting to realize the magnitude of her fuck up.
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>>4888810
All she had to do, even after all the attempted assassinations, is to just fuck off and let the family be. That's it. All she had to do was just let the kids enjoy the sun with their siblings. Now she has to die.
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>>4888823
I’m in awe of her stubbornness. I gotta wonder if her band of mooks ever get sick of being thrown into the meat grinder that is Karn.
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>>4888870
After this absolute Trunksing, now properly experienced by ALL OF THEM, even Vegeta an Goku, and the new Fear Disadvantage rolls they will now experience, I would be yes. Although now that we're talking about it, I gotta say, Trunks now has a decent Silver lining for all this, none of his co-workers or friends can say he was wrong for being scared of us. He and his girlfriend may desperately try to have a kid just so she doesn't get sent back out, and Trunks can finally have a talk with his old man about what the fuck went down. After being called a disappointment of course and getting Xeno Vegeta to project on him. I wanna know what fucking Goku thinks, because this is the first time he's ever been on the receiving end of a righteous beatdown.
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>>4888886
>2 off
fuck
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>>4888886
>and the new Fear Disadvantage rolls they will now experience,
With how compounded those debuffs have become we could practically solo Conton City.
>I wanna know what fucking Goku thinks
Considering Xeno Goku is from a more competent iteration of Goku I think he would be rightfully cautious of us and actually use his head going forward. If this was Super Goku he would just be WAKU WAKU.
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>>4888908
Did they realize they just crashed a wedding? Does the dumbass not understand he is the invader this time?
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>>4888908
>With how compounded those debuffs have become we could practically solo Conton City.
Oh yeah, we broke their Elites over our knees like Goku breaking Nappa, if we ever show up. It will be the first Siege of New Salda all over again, we just John Wick with or Death Beams through them all, as they expect a mindless brute that they can trap with a bumrush. If we did show up again, would Trunks even get up? Would he even say anything until he is ordered too?
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>>4888886
>fear disadvantage
I don't really see Goku and Vegeta coming out of this with anything besides a more serious attitude against Karn in the future. The battle overall may have been a beatdown, but they were doing alright for themselves until they got split by DDF for not immediately ending Karn.
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>>4888912
I believe they do know, but they think they’re justified because they’re fighting on the supposed side of good. As far as they’re concerned anybody on the side of the Time Breakers has forfeited their freedom.
>>4888917
>would Trunks even get up?
He’d probably cower for most of the fight before finding the nerve to come out confront us, but by that point we’d have already done so much damage his chances of accomplishing anything are gone. Then the debuffs would kick back in in full force.
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>>4888938
>I believe they do know, but they think they’re justified because they’re fighting on the supposed side of good. As far as they’re concerned anybody on the side of the Time Breakers has forfeited their freedom.
Oh yeah, being responsible for more mass murders than we have ever been capable of, barely interfering in other timelines, and plowing Towa is such a crime.
>He’d probably cower for most of the fight before finding the nerve to come out confront us, but by that point we’d have already done so much damage his chances of accomplishing anything are gone. Then the debuffs would kick back in in full force.
>BOOOOOOOI, GET OUT HERE YOU COWARD!
>BOOOOOOOOOOOI, DO THESE PISSANTS MEAN SO LITTLE TO YOU, YOU WANNABE HERO?!
>BOOOOOOOI, GET OUT HERE, YOU HAVEN'T LEARNED A DAMN THING, BOOOOOOOOOOI!
>The screams of dying and maimed Time Patrol members litter the city, streets, forests, many more running, fleeing for their lives as Karn marches through them like so much wet toilet paper.
>None that step in his path live, their mangled and broken carcasses making a red streak to mark his path.
>Men, women, even children like Goten and Kid Trunks are slaughtered like so much chattel when they approach him for battle.
>The Dragon Matches upon Conton City, Endgame Raid, Lose Condition Deletes Save File, You may not try again. All Previous saves Delete as well for Majin Characters.
>To get individual Save Files Back, and rebuild parties, the Dragon Balls must be collected and used for each one.
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>>4888505
>wonder if the dude even has a peak
A good and reasonable question. But to be fair, the same can be said for Saiyans who’ve experienced higher gravity, godhood, etc.
>>4888810
She didn’t remember this until AFTER you killed her, during all the work fixing time she had after what you did to her. And realized she’s underestimated you.
>>4888823
>let “evil” win
C’mon anon, you know better.
>>4888870
You’re not a common threat. They can count on one hand(outside of training pq’s) that they’ve actually fought you. Although the Majin’s are rightly terrified, moreso than the others except Trunks.
>>4888886
The negative modifiers stack, so one encounter isn’t exactly debilitating. Only once you start repeatedly jobbing does it affect you.
>none of his co-workers or friends can say he was wrong for being scared of us
Of the dozen or so who know of your existence, yes. Don’t forget, Karn’s a secret to Conton City at large. Only the elite of the elite, and Trunks, know of you.
>I wanna know what fucking Goku thinks
“That Dragon Hakai was intense, even Vegito couldn’t stop it. Hey, Vegeta! We need to learn how to do that!”
Gif related ensues.
>>4888908
Remember, Xeno Goku is post Z, all movies up to Battle of Gods, then GT. He’s a lot older and far less naive, having seen just how wrong things can go.
>>4888926
They didn’t get broken down like Trunks, Majins, three idiots, or even Ace did before. Just learned Karn has a devastating attack in close range that dissolves fusions.
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>>4888926
GD said everyone that saw what happened to Trunks, got a Fear Debuff.
>>4888971
>She didn’t remember this until AFTER you killed her, during all the work fixing time she had after what you did to her. And realized she’s underestimated you.
ITS THE THOUGHT OF UNDERESTIMATING US INSTEAD OF GUILT THAT IS SO INFURIATING! Like, Pink Bitch, you could have avoided this whole fucking threat to your existence, by just, fucking, off!
>let “evil” win
>C’mon anon, you know better.
OH YEAH, OUR PURELY EVIL, DIABOLICAL IN FACT, PLAN OF HAVING OUR KIDS PLAY ON THE BEACH AND GO FISHING WITH US WHENEVER THEY WANT, WHAT A FUCKING HORROR UPON THE UNIVERSE!
>You’re not a common threat. They can count on one hand(outside of training pq’s) that they’ve actually fought you. Although the Majin’s are rightly terrified, moreso than the others except Trunks.
Do they remember oblivion? Do they really want to obey that badly and experience it again?
>Of the dozen or so who know of your existence, yes. Don’t forget, Karn’s a secret to Conton City at large. Only the elite of the elite, and Trunks, know of you.
At least he has a nice pool of fellow drinking buddies, and his dad can't say he only fights weaklings. Not that it matters because every single time, he is absolutely Trunksed, but hey, he had friends to go out with him.
>“That Dragon Hakai was intense, even Vegito couldn’t stop it. Hey, Vegeta! We need to learn how to do that!”
.....oh, of course that's what he is thinking. What else would he do...
>They didn’t get broken down like Trunks, Majins, three idiots, or even Ace did before. Just learned Karn has a devastating attack in close range that dissolves fusions.
Oh so they haven't learned Fear yet? They're about to remember what that's like.
And on to PQs, what about this one>>4888953
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>>4888979
>Forgot the pic for Goku Dumbassery.
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>>4888971
Is vegito permanently disabled until a wish or a rewind happens, or would they just need new potaras?
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>>4888953
Marches* not matches
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INTERMISSION OUT SHORTLY!!

>>4888979
Yes, at least a single stack.
Ha
They all went to the afterlife, where one of SKoT’s Reapers picked them up and brought their souls to Conton City.
You just one shotted a fusion, of course they’re gonna try and harness that same power.
Not speaking on, as one day Karn may return
>>4889001
Just need new Potara, as DDF destroyed those
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>>4889017
>Not speaking on, as one day Karn may return
>THE DEATH MARCH INTENSIFIES
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-Saiyan Conqueror Quest 158 Intermission-

AGE 749, DREADZONE ARENA

“It’s finally time, ladies and gentlemen, for the event we’ve all been waiting for!” Dallas shouts into the mic, audience exploding into cheers. “The man who’s clawed his way to the top with his blades and now stands on the precipice of becoming the next champion! Give it up for the MAAAD! SWOOORDSMAAAAN!!”

He raises one fist high, more of the audience cheering him than you’d expected. But that’s no matter, you’ll win them back once you beat him. They always do.

“And now, the woman who needs no introduction!” Dallas continues, hyping the fight up as much as he can. “The Champion of Dreadzone! CHAAAAAYAAAAAA!!”
“CHA-YA! CHA-YA! CHA-YA!” the crowd chants as you pitch your sword down, it slamming blade-first down into the arena floor. You drop down after it, landing atop the pommel with your arms crossed and literally look down on your opponent.
“You’ve been working hard, and have earned your spot in here against me.” you say, then hop down from the sword onto the arena floor. “So I’ll give you a chance. Throw your poisoned dagger away, and after I win I’ll let you live.”

“I’ll be the one to finally end you, child.” he replies, drawing and brandishing both of his blood-splattered blades. “This day will be remembered as the end of your reign!”
“Don’t say I didn’t give you a chance.” you reply, turning and with a single smooth motion draw your heavy blade back out of the ground. “Let’s do this.”
“It’s time!!” Juanita, the mechanical co-commentator of Dallas shouts over the roar of the crowd. “Mad Swordsman versus Chaya! BEGIN!!”
“Show me everything you’ve got.” you say, holding your giant sword overhead in your Dad’s Djem So style. He takes a more defensive stance, blades crossed in anticipation of your opening strike. You take a single right-footed step forward, then launch yourself off that foot and close the distance near instantly. He immediately leaps aside to your right as you swing down in a powerful overhead attack. But you were expecting it, twisting counterclockwise into a left back kick. Your armored boot smashes into his side, launching the swordsman away and towards the molten metal surrounding the rectangular ring. “HAAA!!”

“GUH!!” he wheezes, flipping back and stabbing his blade into the ground. The sword stops his backwards momentum, the madman spinning around his blade and jerking it free to 180 his momentum right back around at you. As he does, the man begins rapidly spinning, blades slashing like Momma does as he charges. “DIE!!”
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>>4889020
But you’ve seen her technique before, Momma even teaching you a few different methods for handling someone coming at you like this. Switching to a defensive stance, the point of your blade down at the ground and holding the handle overhead, arms crossed. Your sword forms a shield, the madman’s spinning blades striking your sword. Again, and again, and again, the rapidly-spinning man slashes up the length of your sword. As he does you lift it, redirecting the Mad Swordsman up over and away from you. The major weakness of such a spin, other than the potential for being extremely disoriented when you stop, is that you can’t pinpoint the direction you’re going easily. So as he spins up to the crossguard, his blades still making contact you heave, launching him from you.

“GRRAAAAARRRRGGGHH!!” he snarls incomprehensibly, sliding to a stop a dozen yards from you and spinning to face you. But you’ve played enough defense, it’s his turn to block you.
“HRRAAAA!!” you roar, lunging forward with a powerful thrust of your blade. His own swords form an X, catching your blade at the cross and twisting his body to his left just past the razor edge. But you’re not done, planting your feet and whipping the blade around in a full 360 to swing at his left side. This time the swordsman leaps, knees to his chest as his feet narrowly clear your weapon. But now he’s done for, because you know he can’t fly! “HYAAAA!!”

Stopping the blade you reverse your swing into a backwards overhead, your sword’s edge coming up at him from below. Again the Mad Swordsman makes the defensive X, catching your sword at the cross. But since he can’t fly, your blow launches him back behind you, well out of range overhead. As you do you continue the motion, twisting the sword broadside to cover your own back.

KATING KACHING

And just as you’d guessed, he’d thrown some of his smaller, doubtlessly poisoned blades at your back. Fortunately your sword is wide, and despite not fully shielding you he’d no doubt aimed at more vital points. So instead of ending or debilitating you, his weapons bounced harmlessly off of your own. Casually resting your blade against your back you turn, seeing him land. Despite being a “Mad Swordsman”, his skill with his blades is severely lacking. The weapon-swapping wizard Erza is a better opponent, the only thing this guy’s got going for him is he’s quick. But unfortunately for him you’re faster, and getting bored of him. So you decide it’s time to stop playing around, and end this.

“You did well to survive this long.” you say, clenching your free fist up before your face. “Now, let’s see how well you hold up when I kick it into overdrive? HAAAAAAAAAA!!!”

And in a golden flash and burst of sparks, you Ascend.
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>>4889021
“There it is folks! After an explosive opening, our Champion has decided to level up and take her opponent more seriously!” you hear Dallas, crowd chanting and cheering you on. You do hear a surprising number of them still cheering for the swordsman, which irks you. You’ll show them. “Does this mean that the Mad Swordsman is stronger than our champion had anticipated?”
“Doubtful, as she’s clearly been anticipating the Mad Swordsman’s attacks.” Juanita says, her robotic voice sounding bored. “Increasing her power like this, without taking her final form, seems to me like she’s now ready to seriously go on the attack. Will the Mad Swordsman be able to keep up?”

“Hey, let’s make this interesting.” you say to him, flipping your giant sword into a one handed reverse grip in your right hand, tip pointed behind you. “I bet I can throw my sword into the air, and beat you before it hits the ground. What do you think?”
“If you want to die, then try it.” he replies, his menacing-looking aura flaring. “Keep taking me lightly, and you’ll regret it.”
“We’ll see.” you reply, pulling your blade back, and launching it skyward. You didn’t throw it anywhere near full power, at the speed it’s moving you give it twenty or so seconds before it drops back down. Which is more than enough. “Let’s go! Haaaa!!”

With your other hand you fire a short range, wide-angled beam of ki forward. He sprints aside, narrowly dodging the blast but for an instant takes his eyes off of you. Which is too bad for him, as you close the distance between you with a single lunge. Before he’s even fully realized what’s happened you’ve dashed past him, and then deliver a painful elbow into his exposed left ribs.

CRUNCH

Bones break from the force of your blow, the swordsman gurgling in pain. To his credit though he doesn’t drop, instead spinning blade-first and trying to decapitate you. Ducking the painfully slow attack, at least to your senses now, you retaliate with a left uppercut to the jaw. Again bones break, your attack lifting him off his feet. But he can’t fall here, you following up your uppercut with a right palm to the chest. His sternum audibly cracks, launching him back away from you and towards where you’d been standing just moments ago. He crashes back first to the ground, tumbling over three or four times before sliding to a stop face down on the arena floor. And judging from where he landed on the tiles, you used exactly enough power on the final hit. This fight is over, all that’s left is if he surrenders fast enough.
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Credit to @SplicedPenguin for this amazing piece!

>>4889025
“Give up.” you say after walking up to him, crossing your arms and staring down at him as he struggles to rise up again. “Surrender, and I’ll let you live. Grow stronger, and maybe try me again someday.”
“I! W-won’t-!” he spits, coughing up blood as he tries to defy you. But, unfortunately for him, the Mad Swordsman hadn’t realized that was his final chance. As your sword drops out of the air, point first piercing right through his back and embedding itself deep into the arena. “Ack!”

With a final spray of blood the man falls limp, his ki disappearing entirely from your senses. The crowd explodes in cheers, but you just feel...Disappointed. You’d honestly not been expecting much more out of him, but you were still hopeful. And having your hopes dashed does sting.

“Ladies and gentlemen, your winner, and STILL Champion of Dreadzone! Give it up for CHAAAAAYAAAAA!!” Dallas bellows, the crowd getting even louder. You jerk your bloody blade free, putting on you camera smile and raising your weapon in salute to your adoring fans. But inside you just feel a bit empty and disappointed inside. You were hoping for a much more exciting battle.
“Hey kiddo, you up?” comes your Daddy’s thoughts telepathically. He’s okay! You’d had to leave late yesterday while he was still out to get here for a today’s fight, and had been weighing on your mind. But that doesn’t matter, because he’s okay!

“Hey, you’re okay!” you reply excitedly, then start questioning him. “Was worried about you. What happened? Why’d you just drop like that?”
“Apparently I got rocked harder than I thought.” he tells you. “Where’d you go?”
“Oh, me and Raditz took the cameras back to Dreadzone, and I had a fight today.” you answer, dismissing the ‘fight’ already. “Wasn’t much of a fight, didn’t even go into my final form.”
“Most things out there aren’t really a challenge for you, at this level.” he replies, then after a moment adds. “Maybe you could hop back home more often, and fight opponents at your own level. At least keep you sharp.”
“I had completely forgot about that!” you say, having forgotten your first arena fights were back home. “That sounds like a great idea. Wonder if-“

You see the announcers’ pod dropping from their observation area, coming to interview you about your latest victory.

“Oh, hey I gotta go.” you think to him reluctantly. “Talk more later okay?”
“Of course, have fun kiddo.” he answers, you ending the link to hurry and get this over with.
“And here we are with our Champion. So tell us Chaya, what are your thoughts about the fight?” Juanita asks, holding a mic out to you.
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>>4889029
“He wasn’t terrible, but didn’t deserve to be fighting on the same stage as me.” you say with a smirk, powering down out of your Ascended Super Saiyan form with a small sigh. “At least he was quick.”
“Well then I have some good news for you, because your battles for today aren’t over!” Dallas shouts, catching you by surprise as the pod returns to their announcer spot. “That’s right ladies and gentlemen! Today our Champion gets not one, but TWO battles to the death!”

At this the crowd goes crazy, and seeing them on their feet cheering walk a small circle, throwing your arms up and hyping the crowd further. You aren’t quite sure what’s going on, but hopefully it’s a more exciting fight than the last one was. You feel your blood pumping, feeling that rush of excitement and anticipation. As it surges through your veins, you realize that you hadn’t felt this sensation in the ring for quite awhile, and hadn’t realized how much you missed it. You just hope this fight lives up to your newly-raised expectations.

“Several years ago, Dreadzone lost a legend.” Dallas begins, storytelling to hype this next opponent. “An Executuoner for several years, his hardware and software were both long-outdated so he retired from the ring. But after receiving a full technological overhaul, he’s ready once more to step into the warzone and show his metal! So once more, ladies and gentlemen, put your hands together for the new! The improved! SHEEELLSHOOOOOOCK!!”
“No way!” you shout, looking around excited before seeing him dropping down from the air above you. “Let’s go!”
“WAAAAA HAAAAA HAAAAA HAAAAA!!” Shellshock bellows happily, his heavy frame slamming down onto the arena floor with a titanic crash before rising, raising both fists to the air. “I’M BACK!!”

The crowd goes wild at this, and you’d be lying if you said you weren’t excited as well. He knows all your moves, and since Vox hadn’t given you a heads up means this Shellshock is no doubt an experimental body. Which you’re all too willing to put through it’s paces, and see just how much of a fight he can put up now.

“Oh hell yeah, this is gonna be great!” you shout, holding the blade overhead in both hands, taking your Djem So stance. And in a flash once more take your Super Saiyan form, ready to throw down with a much more exciting opponent. “Let’s do this!”
“Target acquired!” he replies, leveling his hand cannon at you. “Initiating Chaya protocol!”
“Both fighters ready?” Dallas shouts over the audience’s roaring cheers. “BEGIN!!”

And everything goes red.
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>>4889031
“...Ow...” you say, finding yourself lying flat on the ground. One second you were standing, and the next everything was pain. His weapon is far stronger than you remember, and more powerful than you were expecting Dreadzone tech to be. It hit like those Covenant lasers did to your dad, wait did he- “SHIT!”

Rolling to your right you dodge Shellshock’s massive left foot, it smashing into the arena floor where you’d been a moment before. Wasting no time you get your feet under you and blast off, getting plenty of distance between the two of you. As you fly back the wind stings on your chest, and looking down see his blast destroyed your armor entirely. Your torso’s a bit red, a few spots bleeding a bit, but fortunately your armor ate the worst of that shot. Looks like you’re fighting the rest of this battle armorless.

“You cannot escape.” Shellshock says, firing his swarms of shoulder rockets into the air from the three tubes on each side of his chest. The air is swiftly filled with explosives, each one flying their way towards your half of the arena. “My missiles are programmed to seek and destroy!”
“Oh yeah? Well so am I!” you roar, clenching your fists as you Ascend. Sparks dance around your flared golden aura as you dash, not away from Shellshock but towards him, ki gathered in both fists. “HYAAAA!!”

You fire the ki in your right as a Spear Punch, the piercing attack flying right towards his chest. But it seems they were watching your fights closely when designing this new and improved Shellshock, as he copies your Reflect Punch with a strange pale blue energy you can’t sense gathered around his left hand. Deflecting your attack into the sky he again levels his weapon at you, but this time you’re ready.

“HAAAAAAAA!!!” you roar, throwing a powerful beam from your left right at Shellshock’s cannon just as he fires. Golden energy meets crimson, your ki stopping the beam in it’s tracks. But to your surprise, you aren’t immediately overpowering it. Well, lucky you that you have one more form. “Try THIS! HAAAAAAAA!!”

As you roar, unleashing your restraints your body begins bulking up, transforming into the Ultra state. This form, while not a “true” transformation in it’s own right, pulls out the absolute limit of your current form’s power in exchange for burning through your energy, and the giant muscles slowing your body down considerably. But right now what you need is power, and this form has it in spades.

“RRRRRAAAAAAAA!!” you bellow, doubling the power behind your wave. Seeing his attack losing Shellshock stops firing, instead shifting his left forward and reactivating that shield. This time it appears as a quarter dome, your energy slamming into it with your fullest power.
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>>4889032
But raw power isn’t enough, the shield copying your dad’s and deflecting the energy out around the barrier.

“Tch!” you exhale, ending the attack after a few seconds. Seems that while he has been your coach, Shellshock has been studying you as well and preparing for this battle. Which just leaves you feeling even more excited. You haven’t had a REAL challenge in your ring since facing down that splitjaw with the Stand that let him dodge all your attacks. And this is getting you fired up! And you’re not the only one, the crowds exploding with volume you haven’t heard in quite some time. They’re clearly enjoying this as much as you are! “Now THIS is a fight!”
“Eat my-!” Shellshock shouts, leaping into the air while gathering that energy into his left hand. “Fist-honorable Discharge!!”

And he crashes fist-first to the ground, creating a massive blast. You’d adopted his attack as the Shellshock Punch years ago, but with these upgrades his attack’s power has improved dramatically. Even with the extra bulk of your Ultra form, his attack pushes you back and nearly knocks you off your feet. Sliding backwards, forced back by the blast, you suddenly hear a mechanical tinking sound. And as the blast ends you see the source, Shellshock has released at least fifty of his Bouncer mines. Explosive balls the size of your transformed dad’s fist, each one explodes on contact with something other than the arena floor or after ten-ish seconds. And with their odd shape, each bounces unpredictably, making staying on the ground a terrible option. Leaping into the air, once more hr begins firing swarms of those missiles towards you.

“Too slow.” you say, rapidly dropping your Ultra form and returning to a normal Ascended Saiyan to get your speed back up. Without all the extra bulk evading the bouncing bombs and missiles becomes far easier, you even noticing your sword on the ground and snatching it back up while dodging between two Bouncers. Cartwheeling from your hands back to your feet you launch yourself back, dodging the last three missiles as they strike where you’d been standing. “You’re gonna need more than that to beat me, Shellshock!”
“I’m not anywhere near the end of my protocols!” Shellshock replies, reaching back behind his back with his left hand. And pulls something mechanical, attaching the strange part to the front of his blaster, rotating it 90 degrees and now holding the weapon low with both hands. “Hasta la vista, baby!”

And once more everything goes red.

-Saiyan Conqueror Quest 158 Intermission End-
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>>4889029
Damn that artwork is looking fresh.
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>>4889035
Nice interlude GD.

Y’know, there’s been one thing I’ve been meaning to ask. Why doesn’t the Time THOT just erase our timeline now? I can understand not doing it before when she underestimated us but what’s stopping her from doing it now that she knows we can kill her?
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>>4889062
Oh yeah, man’s been on fire.
>>4889073
Glad you liked it.
She can’t, now that Karn and Towa have a(3)kid(s). Their timelines are now permanently linked, erasing one would erase the other too.
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>>4889087
>Their timelines are now permanently linked, erasing one would erase the other too.
Why doesn't she erase them then? Is Towa's timeline important or something?
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>>4889131
She didn’t know which timeline your Towa originally came from, then when her first lab was blown realized it was one she couldn’t lose. For reasons she wouldn’t disclose
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>>4889131
>Why doesn't she erase them then? Is Towa's timeline important or something?
Because for all shes a bitch, as a Divine Being theres LAWS she has to obey. If Towa never interferes with her own native timeline, then its free of alternations, and By The Laws Of Time it can't be destroyed.

Chrona is alot like Angels, she might be absurdly OP, but even for all her apparent freedom she still has some rules she has to obey.
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>>4889062
Honestly the ring really sells it.
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>>4889131
I assume it’s because our Towas timeline is an “official” one that lacks any malicious alterations or outside meddling. Erasing that one is probably against the rules.
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>>4889165
Little details like that really bring the whole thing together.
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>>4889141
Oh yeah. Breaking the rules blatantly would have Consequences for her.
>>4889165
Little details are great. Like the Chilli art.
>>4889175
She won’t say
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>>4889136
Whelp our Towa may very well be the canon one from the main timeline, which is actually hilarious and would probably piss off a hell of a lot of the time patrol if they figured that out. Also a fuckton of irony considering the absolute shit she gives Karn because of her job.
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>>4889219
Say GD, going through the old threads still, in the same thread we reconnected with Banes Holocron, Cauli got Dark Souls Purging Stones. If we know/find out of Colds condition IC would a Purging Stone remove more of his Cursed Wounds?
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>>4889029
God damnit, she's thinking like a Goku.
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>>4889035
Damn, Tanya ain't fucking around on R&D.
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>>4889165
It's perfect is what it is.
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Does anyone recall the thread(s) number where we first met Towa and Chronoa? I need to give it a reread.
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>>4889280
Yeah, that's what I'm betting on too, our Towa is one from one of the main Timeline branches Trunks fucked with, and she can't risk icing our timeline without fucking her shit up. Which makes her self-righteous arrogance even worse, because we don't fucking do anything Time Breakers are typically doing. If she fucked off and let us have our way, like doing her fucking job requires when a stable timeline occurs, and left our big family alone to live peacefully, none of the problems she has now would matter.
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>>4889355
Pretty sure it was right around our first meeting with the Dark Matter Pirates, and after Killua's failed assassination attempt.
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>>4889358
Tbf we actually did do Timebreaker shit. It was for a good reason, but we did it.

Just off the top of my head. We stole Godsend, saved the planewalker, crippled 3 gods, and start a Zanmasu level of fear of mortals in pretty much the entire pantheon.

We headed to an alternative Namek and blew up the Big Getty Star to get Karn Unbrainwashed.

We entered into Amayas timeline to save her from hatchyack.

and probably some more that I'm forgetting. Yes, we had good reason for that, but we still broke the laws of time.
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>>4889373
That is barely related to Pink Bitch insofar as we came from the universe she watches over, and only aided a timeline that was already branching continue.
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>>4889361
Thanks brah
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>>4889379
Mate your not getting it. We travelled outside of our own flow of time and knowingly and willingly altered the timelines of atleast 3 others. It doesn't matter that we weren't powering up the canonical bad guys and going to war with the Time Patrol on purpose, we broke the laws of time, and the Supreme Kai of Time sent in the Time Patrol to deal with us.

I hate Chrona for not just letting it slide but lets not pretend she has entirely legal reasons to go after us.
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>>4889398
*that she doesn't have entirely legal reasons to go after us.
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>>4889379
Not really understanding your rationale for how time shenanigans aren't related to her. Maybe I'm missing something, but I prefer looking at Karn vs Pink Nasty as them being two forces that are justified from their own perspectives but incapable of ever seeing eye to eye. Trying to rationalize Karn as being a good boy that didn't do nothin' and the SKoT as some dunce that just keeps swinging the time patrol at him like a hammer is lame.
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>>4889392
Yep, its cool. You killcount guy?
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>>4889402
Whole other universes are not her jurisdiction, The God Maiming Incident was only related by the fact we were working with Towa in a completely different universes event, not under her control. Everything else is us either doing her job better, or her just being a cunt. If I didn't think it was fiction, I'd say Pink hands typed this post.
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>>4889398
A good chunk of which was entirely in self defense, or doing her job for her.
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>>4889438
......They are? There are no Alternative Universe Supreme Kais of Time dude. Its the Singular Chrona enforcing The Rules Of Time across the entire multiverse. It doesn't matter if its DBZ, Magic the Gathering, DC, whatever, if you break the laws of time, then its Chrona you answer you too.

Also doing her job better? Mate her Job isn't ensuring happily ever afters for everyone, its ensuring that events play out in their proper course, if thats timelines where Zamasu succeeds and wipes out every mortal in every universe in the DBZ setting, or Bulma and her Dad kicking it into high gear and making universe a practical utopia through their science, it doesn't matter.

She Enforces The Laws Of Time, And Ensures The Events Of Past, Present, And Future Play Out As They Are Dictated.

She's a ruthless bitch who refuses to bend from enforcing those rules, even when its better/easier to do so, but she has actually legit reason to go after us like she has. And even then she tried to play softball and convince Karn to stand down as we saw in the end of the Episode 101 battle marathon.
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>>4889442
The Magic timeline is not her jurisdiction, she said so herself, and it was a technicality that she was able to operate out there. Different space is not the same as timelines.
The timeline we rescued our family in was already attacked by Time Breakers, ergo we were doing her job better.
>She's a ruthless bitch who refuses to bend from enforcing those rules, even when its better/easier to do so, but she has actually legit reason to go after us like she has.
No she doesn't she is just that fucking lazy, she'll break the rules for Trunks if it means he stays loyal, it barely taxes her anyways.
>And even then she tried to play softball and convince Karn to stand down as we saw in the end of the Episode 101 battle marathon.
She wanted us to lay down and die or let our Towa die. Fuck her and her softball, she wanted bootlicking nothing else. Begone Pink Bitch sympathizer.
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>>4889433
Nah, I’m just taking the time to brush up my knowledge on events I’ve mostly forgotten.
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>>4889455
Fair.
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>>4889280
No, your Towa didn’t birth Fu. I’ll say this, the reason she can’t delete yours and Towas timelines isn’t related to you.
>>4889311
Potentially. Although at this point, he may not notice a difference.
>>4889313
Not really. Return gladiators bring more views on their “comeback” attempt than on their first fight.
>>4889342
Thanks Vox for all the Covenant tech they also got after the Siege of New Salda. But they’re far better at reverse-engineering weapons platforms than the Saiyan/PTO scientists.
>>4889355
9 and 10.
>>4889358
>because we don't fucking do anything Time Breakers are typically doing
But that is factually incorrect. You have interfered with more than three separate timelines so far.
>>4889373
Yes.

As for those of you arguing, I’m not interfering unless specific questions are asked my way.
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>>4889985
>But that is factually incorrect. You have interfered with more than three separate timelines so far.
Semantics, fuck Pink Bitch.
>Not really. Return gladiators bring more views on their “comeback” attempt than on their first fight.
I guess? Still not a good line of thought for her to have wanting an opponent to survive fighting her with the intent to kill her.
>Thanks Vox for all the Covenant tech they also got after the Siege of New Salda. But they’re far better at reverse-engineering weapons platforms than the Saiyan/PTO scientists.
I can bet, they are experts.
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>>4890015
>Semantics, fuck Pink Bitch.
>OP says you are flat out wrong
>Autistic anon petulantly say the OP is wrong.

Never change 4-Chan. Never mind.
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Less than 24 hours until this episode continues! Hope you all are excited!
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>>4889035
>Vox has developed weapon technology effective against ascended super saiyans in 1v1 combat
>this is being widely broadcast
Uh oh.
>>4890322
SOON
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>>4890322
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>>4890345
>developed
Ehh, more stole than anything. But they’re way better with weapons tech than the PTO.
>SOON
Soon. Too early for SOON.
>>4890374
Yes
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Pastebin has restricted episode 67’s epilogue due to its content. So it as well as 148 are both set to private. To view them, the links and codes will be posted here:
https://pastebin.com/0h2Hu06V
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>>4890751
Thanks GD.
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Man, what is with everyone and going around censoring things years old despite it never having really been enforced before?
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>>4890751
FYSA, it won't let me access either of them. Not even an option to input a password.
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>>4890936
>>4890942
Because Communism became popular, and chinese communist party bought a lot of American stocks.
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>>4890936
Money
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>>4890949
Ah. The usual stuff. The reason why I went from a joking racist to an actual one.

Every day. Every single day I find more reasons to pray for Three Gorges to collapse.
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>>4890985
Critical Race Theory is the best to thing to happen to racists, no need to do the legwork to prove what race the bottom feeders are, the idiots that support it proudly collect the data themselves, and deny reality. So the louder they deny something, the truer it is.
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>>4890762
Hope it works.
>>4890936
It’s all about control. They have no control over their own lives, so inconveniencing/exerting control over someone else makes them feel powerful.
>>4890942
Did you try copy-pasting the link? What happened?
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>>4886863
>I'm not sold on the death world stuff.
>If anything the bottleneck they've gone through has probably planted the seeds of the "survivor mentality" into saiyan society
This only applies to those that experienced said bottleneck. The war, the hardships and all that. You are right, but it only applies to those that were there, alive and old enough to remember.

Those born after this in time of peace will be much more clueless. Can you truly understand what it's like go through Covenant's siege of New Salda without really being there, but just hearing about it from your parents?
It will not give the same results.

>There's still going to be a drive for them to seek out true danger and become stronger without us making a killer playground that only some of the population might go to.
This "drive for them to seek out true danger and become stronger " will be mostly useless and will result in nearly nothing.

As things are now already many inhabitants of the Universe 7 can be easily obliterated by a below than average teenage Saiyan.

Young new Saiyans may look for challenge but they will rarely find it unless they go looking really hard. "Dark Matter Thieves" are example of individuals that could deliver a good fight, but to reach them you probably need to travel to the other side of the universe.
Taking so much time just to find an opponent who can fight seems like a massive waste of time.

"But Sayians can fight among themselves to train."
Correct, but when Karn and Meloka fight and train with each other, they are not actually fighting as lethally as they do when really intend to kill the opponent. They fight hard, but it's not a real fight to the death and that is a huge difference.

>Saiyans aren't going to become clueless just because there's no risk of covenant soldiers uncloaking and shanking them.
Laughs in "Karn Jr Super Saiyan 4 from future Epilogue with Janemba".
This kid is a prodigy in terms of power even as an infant. Later when he is older and has obtained the Super Saiyan 4 his power should be more than great. I mean really huge.

And yet despite that he managed to be hit and punched multiple times by who?
Wookies.
Considering the astronomical difference in power they should not be able to even touch him.

One anon said that it is related to Karn Jr's lack of killer instinct. He was not willing to end lives of his opponents. This is true but even without will to kill he still should have been able to dodge.

This gif represents very accurately the future the Karn Jr and next generations of Saiyans are heading to right now. It can be summed up with one word jobbers . That's right even the strong beings can be jobbers .

We need a good Death World where they can experience true combat and true danger. Otherwise where will they be able to truly learn lessons that their patents gained from their hard life on planet Vegeta or during the Covent war?
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>>4891054
>Covent war
Covenant war*
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>>4889029
Awesome art. Looks menacing.
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>>4891048
Yep, also tried highlighting it and right click > Open in new tab. Error 403 because it's private or being moderated.
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>>4891060
>>4883515
>>4881169
BTW for some reason my ID changes in this thread. I'm not using dynamic IP. Strange. I'm gonna test if it will change again.
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>>4891065
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>>4883545
>I’m sure Freeza wouldn’t be opposed to it.
Fantastic.
>And neither would an uprising deity, who’d be very interested in getting such a thing ok’d.
Our "Death World" would be of great interest to him. He could visit and witness latest genetic experiments. The best of them he could copy and include into his own ability set.

But that's not all he could be interested in. He is learning about what Kais do and creation. The aspect of modifying and creating new life forms seems like a subject he would be very interested in too.
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>>4891048
the same is happening to me, I just get
>Error, this is a private paste or is pending moderation. If this paste belongs to you, please login to Pastebin to view it.
It looks like the second link for 148 is the editing link specifically for you, btw.
While I'm thinking about it, could you spoil if force lightning requires a specific gesture to use, or could we just channel the electricity through our body at will? When it was discussed earlier, other anons seemed kinda cold on it, and I was thinking it could be a good technique in emergencies like when Demigra grabbed us and our hands weren't free.
>>4891054
Fair enough points. However, you have to remember that there's plenty of things that can make up for a raw PL difference in this universe that would provide a natural wake up call to any cocky Saiyans. My main concern is that an artificial survival situation might never match up to the real thing, and that our death world might eventually lose it's bite as knowledge of the challenges on it spreads. Anyways, I'd still be down for it if we don't learn of a better alternative when we talk to Tatsu and learn about the other stuff GD mentioned.
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>>4891054
>Those born after this in time of peace will be much more clueless
Yes. Peace breeds weakness.
>”But Sayians can fight among themselves to train."
Excellent point, but I would like to note something. Both times Meloka’s sparred with you recently have had you requiring Caulifla/Healing Pod to survive. Even though she wasn’t aiming with her most lethal attacks.
>Considering the astronomical difference in power they should not be able to even touch him.
The “End of Z” Goten issue. Kid’s clearly nearly adult, and has his dad actually HOME training for years, yet clearly can’t fight for shit.
>>4891060
As Karn should, when facing down the Time Patrol. THIS is Supervillain Karn, in all his Berserk glory.
>>4891063
Huh, okay. Have an alternative site with less bullshit?
>>4891065
It happens. Hell, I’m a phoneposting QM, I know all too well how that goes
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>>4889025
>“Hey, let’s make this interesting.” you say to him, flipping your giant sword into a one handed reverse grip in your right hand, tip pointed behind you. “I bet I can throw my sword into the air, and beat you before it hits the ground. What do you think?”
I'm glad Karn does not do things like that in real fights to death. Underestimating opponent can sometimes lead to a nasty surprise. Fighting smart is one of the major things that got Karn through all the troubles in the past. (Another important aspect are his family, friends and allies.)
>>4889035
Very interesting epilogue. Also:
>And pulls something mechanical, attaching the strange part to the front of his blaster, rotating it 90 degrees and now holding the weapon low with both hands. “Hasta la vista, baby!”
Is this something that Tanya and her team helped design too?
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>>4891086
Not to my knowledge, I'll keep you posted if I find anything.
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>>4891076
Which would only make him deadlier. But then again, he already has a FULL DAY of Za Warudo’s stopped time, so what’s a little more deadly?
>The aspect of modifying and creating new life forms seems like a subject he would be very interested in too.
What is the Stone Mask for 500?
>>4891077
Huh. Does anyone have another place I can upload besides Pastebin?
>force lightning
I can say that, if channeled incorrectly, that could do damage from simply stopping your heart to frying your brain and leaving you a vegetable.
>as knowledge of the challenges on it spreads.
Knowing what something “can” do, and witnessing a scientist-created chimera Saibaman’s acid melt through an attack pod’s hull are two different things
>>4891089
She’s very confident in her appraisals. Granted, she gets to sense their kis and watch them fight for entire seasons before fighting them which is an advantage Karn never gets.
Vox’s team created a whole lot of destruction. Now, what modification could they make to a (giant)handheld Glassing Cannon?
>>4891094
Please do. I’m looking for a backup site anyways now.
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>>4891098
>what modification could they make to a (giant)handheld Glassing Cannon?
By necessity, it has to have a fusion reactor to generate plasma and some type of magnetic lensing to focus and project it.
They could have super-tuned the projection module to shoot out a hyper condensed stream of plasma Shin-Godzilla style.
Or they could have found a way to project the radioactive emissions from the fusion reactor on top of the plasma for crippling long-term effects.
No doubt it also has an overload feature too, which sounds like nothing but pain.
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>>4891086
>Both times Meloka’s sparred with you recently have had you requiring Caulifla/Healing Pod to survive. Even though she wasn’t aiming with her most lethal attacks.
Yes. She's good. She's that good. She is also one of the Saiyans who have combat in their blood. She grew up during war with Tuffles. There was no easy mode. It was a deadly conflict and both sides were not pulling the punches.

Will new generations have it in them while growing up so peacefully? Or will their training fights look more like this gif.
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>>4891098
>What is the Stone Mask for 500
You can always learn more.
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>>4891098
>that risk with force lightning
Damn, that sucks. I guess I'm content with explosive wave and eye beams filling the role for techniques that don't require limbs. Right now the best stuff with our force training that we can work on seems to be the meditation and sword styles.
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>>4891112
I still want to mash together our existing techniques and make some type of Summon Swords knockoff.
Imagine if we could fight off a group of people without moving a muscle, floating Ki Blades doing all the work for us.
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>>4891117
It would be fun, yeah

As an aside, GD, way back when our kids defenses were sabotaged with the Hive during the war was that by one of Kano's lads? Also how is the general public's opinion on our kids. The saiyan populace and the wider universe I mean.
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>>4891077
>However, you have to remember that there's plenty of things that can make up for a raw PL difference in this universe that would provide a natural wake up call to any cocky Saiyans.
True. Though it might be also lethal and their last experience. I think they better get some proper training instead of just hopping in completely clueless into something very dangerous.
>My main concern is that an artificial survival situation might never match up to the real thing
Scyther showed that it can match it very well. It was very real and that is the kind of authenticity that is the goal. No point in making a Death World if it will be populated with something weak.
>our death world might eventually lose it's bite as knowledge of the challenges on it spreads
Our scientists and us can continually work to improve it. Scientists will love a place where their murderous creations can really show what they can do.

It will not lose it's bite if we put an effort into it and not just abandon it. Maybe even Karn will be able to train there too if we make the place good enough.

By:
-adding new species
-analyzing the results of fights of Saiyans and the creations in the Death World
-improving battle creations according to the data collected above
This place will only keep getting better or at least not become "too ez" to learn anything there.

>if we don't learn of a better alternative when we talk to Tatsu and learn about the other stuff GD mentioned.
Why not do both? Follow wise advice of Tatsu and do Death World too. We can't slack on this or else future Saiyans will become weak.
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>>4891112
Remember that cool thing Meloka did when she grew Ki spikes from her back like some hedgehog? Really nice technique. If only we could do this.
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>>4891107
Missing the most obvious modification of all. Pic quite possibly related.

>>4891108
Not that bad, at least while those who survived are the overwhelming majority of the population. However, that won’t always be the case. In a hundred years, after everyone who remembers the Siege long gone, how will the Saiyans fare without those legends?
>>4891110
True. But I was poking fun at the “seems like”. Not seems like, we know he is.
>>4891112
It’s channeling electricity, it can absolutely fuck up your body if it goes into the wrong places.
>>4891117
That is more of a Tunnip technique, speaking of...
>>4891144
No, his people had long been imprisoned by the Covenant by then. Remember, Arctus thought he had a lead on it. May be a side quest later in the arc...
Amongst the Saiyans? Complicated. Can’t say more, as that is a potential side quest. Remember what Tatsu and Tomi were dealing with during the war?
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>>4891108
Consider that for us mere hoomangs there were two of the deadliest wars in history back to back and now only two or three generations separated from it everyone is a fucking sissy, yeah.

It wears off really fucking quick.
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>>4891157
>Not that bad, at least while those who survived are the overwhelming majority of the population. However, that won’t always be the case. In a hundred years, after everyone who remembers the Siege long gone, how will the Saiyans fare without those legends?
Depends. Would Berserker God/SS God extend the users lifespans? If so we can atleast do the one big duty the Divine usually fuck up and properly cultivate our peoples growths.

Also Raven can probably help with that.
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>>4891157
>True. But I was poking fun at the “seems like”. Not seems like, we know he is.
Oops. My bad. I was pic related here.
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>>4891117
That's something cool.
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>>4891157
>That is more of a Tunnip technique, speaking of...
Not outside the realm of possibility for a Sith Lord either.
>how will the Saiyans fare without those legends?
While the Death World idea is still a good one, I figure we may as well cover hmour bases since a decline in the warrior caste will be inevitable during prolonged peace.
Would Bane ever be willing to teach us how to make a Holocron?
I figure future generations would benefit greatly from directly learning under Karn and his contemporaries.
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>>4891145
>We make a containment zone of "creative" ma-I mean sane, scientists. It should work out pretty well for our purposes.
>>4891157
The RHINO
GD, calm down, these kids didn du nothin....
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>>4891158
Well, that's because a good majority of the people with the stones to go fight and die went off and did exactly that.
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>>4891176
>GD, calm down, these kids didn du nothin...
False. Chaya fucked around, and she is now in the process of finding out.
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>>4891180
Leave female Bobbie's punishment out of this, she knows what she did, the rest of the kids are innocent!
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>>4891157
>May be a side quest later in the arc...
Interesting.
>>4891157
>Amongst the Saiyans?
I remember.
When we were eating with Karn's student's and kids were there too. Students said that Karn and Meloka's kids are "different".
Also Broly was treated as freak when he was really young. Remember when some kids bullied young Chaya and if I remember right they said to her something like "Can't do much without that freak protecting you". It was said about Paragus' son.
Then Broly showed up, transformed into Super Saiyan, killed one of the kids.
It was a long ago, I may have messed up the details.
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>>4891186
>Then Broly showed up, transformed into Super Saiyan, killed one of the kids.
False, Broly only shattered several bones and knocked him into critical condition.
It's the Wookies that dragged him off that killed him.
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>>4891163
We just heard about Dragon Balls and immortality from Kazuma. We can follow that lead.
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>>4891192
Ok.
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>>4891175
>make a Holocron?
Man, just think of the possibilities:
>1000+ years from where we are in the quest
>Saiyans have grown up being inspired by tales of Karn the Berserker and other heroes
>the most elite of them that are taking influential roles in Saiyan society are allowed to undergo a certain ritual to prove their worth
>deep under the surface of New Salda, these Saiyans that likely are starting to brush off the stories of Karn and his comrades as mere exaggerated legends come face to face with his holocron and are judged/can consult with one of the warriors that saved their entire race
imagine what some hotshot Saiyan kid that thinks Karn is just some tall tale would go through seeing him looking down at them
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>>4891145
That’s why I recommend it being a “coming of age” trial.
A hunter in their favored terrain is a terrible threat.
>>4891156
It is a good defensive technique. She built it to fight against Golden Oozaru.
>>4891163
No, no transformation does that.
>>4891166
All good.
>>4891175
But it’s an extremely technical style, not a power style
Not likely. You’re not anywhere near powerful enough
>>4891176
That’s not a RYNO, THIS is a RYNO.
>>4891178
And what happened to the Saiyans over the several invasions?
>>4891180
Ha
>>4891186
No, not wrong. At least the broad strikes are correct
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>>4891222
>That’s not a RYNO, THIS is a RYNO.
I feel bad for not remembering my favorite screen clearer. But I haven't played since Dreadzone. And I don't like the cutesy reboot and FemOCdonutsteal.
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>>4891222
>not anywhere near powerful enough for a holocron
RIP
I was going to post the Force Storm as an interesting technique since it fucks with space and *time* but it seemed way too far out of Karn's reach. So much of the force stuff I've read about looks like it's just for people that spend a lifetime doing nothing but focusing on Jedi/Sith shenanigans.
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>>4891222
>no transformation does that
I know we already made our choice but I thought you mentioned primal extending one's lifespan before
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>>4891287
Nope, just keeps us at our peak until the last moment when aging hits us like a brick shithouse.
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If there's anyone I'd like to see eventually learn Primal, it's Tatsu, so he can taste his youth again someday
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>>4891345
He's hit the wall bro, he wouldn't be able to make it to the power cap to attempt it.
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>>4891352
This, hard. Man hasn't even got Super Saiyan, there's no way he could possibly make it all the way to Primal before it's too late. Sad to say but it's true.
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>>4891357
No, pretty sure he got at least Super Saiyan, but he's to old and injured to get past it.
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I forget, do we have enhanced attribute yet?
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Enhance_Attribute
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>>4891377
No, we did saber training more than Force stuff.
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>>4891352
>>4891357
>>4891368
You bitches should watch what you say. Improbable? absolutely, but no true Saiyan will ever let a “wall” hold them back. It’s not impossible until the day he finally drops dead for good.
There is still yet untapped potential in that old dog.
Its also worth bearing in mind that he has more cumulative time in oozaru than any other living saiyan with how often he trains others in controlling that form.
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>>4891430
Read the fucking Pastebin my guy
>https://pastebin.com/vPb0wswN
Tatsu's powerlevel is just under 300K and he has maybe a few more years before he's bedridden or dead outright.
Hell, the last time he went all out his fucking heart stopped, and that was against some punk kid.
Anything short of Dragon Ball fuckery isn't gonna let him get past that.
I love the guy and respect the hell out of him, but he's on his way out whether we like it or not.
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>>4891430
Anon I know you Iove Tatsu, we all do, but the man just doesn’t have it in him to reach that level, and honestly would be even want to? Tatsu seems pretty content to stay on the sidelines to watch and guide the next generation as they take stage. He knows he’s lived far longer than he should have, and every day is a blessing. Let the man spend what time he has left doing what he knows he’s still capable of.
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>>4891430
These guys said it best>>4891450
>>4891477
Pops is retired now for all intents and purpose.
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SOON.
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>>4891228
>But I haven't played since Dreadzone
Same. PS2 was the beginning and end of that franchise for me.
>>4891242
You’re currently as practiced as Episode 4 Luke with that
>>4891287
It extends the time you remain in your physical prime. While transformed. But your “real” body still ages and weakens, even if you stay transformed forever.
>>4891345
Unfortunately not going to happen in this timeline. Going Super Saiyan would probably kill him at this point.
>>4891377
Haven’t touched that branch of abilities.
>>4891752
YES
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>>4891228
It's not a reboot, nor is it as bad as the deuteragonist would indicate. Then again who the fuck can play it anyways what with scalpers strangling the market for PS5s.
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Previously on Saiyan Conqueror Quest:

>>4881487
After a fierce battle against the Time Patrol, concluding in Karn managing to actually kill a version of the Supreme Kai of Time, the day was won. Karn spoke with several of his allies, but before he was able to explain why Maza’s philosophy of power being the be all and end all, Karn succumbed to the damage Vegito had delt. Then after an interesting talk with Mechikabura Karn reawakened, and after reaching out to the children not sleeping nearby snuck out of bed to get breakfast. Heading north Karn found and killed several ursine monsters, taking some slashing damage to the chest from one’s pounce but nothing too dangerous. Then Karn flew them all back to the Crimson Demon village, drawing unexpected attention along the way. And as we rejoin Karn, you’ve just blasted free of the snow to come face-to-face with a giant white dragon.

“Alright you bastard.” you say, the dragon’s gaze immediately focusing solely on you as you leap out of the snow. This thing may have frozen your breakfast, and looking around see the entire village is covered in several feet of snow, but as your stomach grumbles you know what’s going to replace it. “Ruin my breakfast, asshole, and you’re replacing it.”
“GWWRRRRROOOOAAAAAAARR!!” the dragon bellows at you, it’s roar a clear challenge. As if saying “This is my sky!” And you disagree with it.
“HRRYAAAAA!!” you roar, clenching a fist and exploding up into your Ascended Berserker state. This beast is powerful, more powerful than anything else you’ve yet sensed native to this planet. But at your full power, it doesn’t stand a chance in a physical contest. But that just leaves one question:

How do you handle this beast?
>Rush and attack, brute force your way through whatever it throws your way and beat it down
>Super Ki Blade and rush, decapitate this monster with your full power.
>Keep your distance, avoid it’s attacks and use your own lethal ki attacks to take it down
>Try the Super Energy Javelin again, see if it’ll work on this thing
>Piercing Fist MkII, charge through whatever it tries throwing your way and blast straight through it’s skull
>Instant Transmission behind it, and try for a sneak attack kill
>Other(write in)
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>>4891925
>Try the Super Energy Javelin again, see if it’ll work on this thing
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>>4891925
>Grab its neck and get it in a tight hold, then use your Unmovable Energy Body to strangle the life out of it
Gotta make sure the meat is intact.
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>>4891925
>>Super Ki Blade and rush, decapitate this monster with your full power.
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>>4891933
It’s neck is bigger around than your arms. You’re gonna need bigger than Ascended Berserker arms to grab that neck
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>>4891940
Damn.
>>4891933
>>4891925
Changing to this then.
>Super Ki Blade and rush, decapitate this monster with your full power.
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>>4891925
>>Super Ki Blade and rush, decapitate this monster with your full power.
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>>4891928
>>4891933
>>4891939
>>4891947
>>4891968
Super Ki Blade and rush, decapitate this monster with your full power wins. Roll me a 4d100.
First DC: 40
Second DC: 60
Third DC: 75
Fourth DC: ??
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Rolled 87, 22, 54, 56 = 219 (4d100)

>>4891985
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Rolled 56, 34, 49, 13 = 152 (4d100)

>>4891985
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Rolled 33, 13, 86, 9 = 141 (4d100)

>>4891985
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Don't roll on an empty stomach kids.
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>>4891990
>>4891992
>>4891996
87/100, 34/100, 86/100, 57/100. Success, failure, success, and a mystery. You don’t resist getting frozen, but...Writing.
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Note to self: Think about getting a jacket or coat.
Seriously, we've been getting frozen a lot lately.
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>>4891925
Raising your hands overhead you focus, ki shaping and forming into a massive, two-handed blade of ki. Swinging it to your right, you take a ready stance to dash towards the dragon. You plan on ending this with a single, powerful strike.

“Gwrroooaarrrrrrr!” your stomach grumbles painfully, your power dipping as you wince in pain.
“Tch! I better end this quick!” you say, gritting your teeth and flaring you aura back up before blasting at the dragon. “DIE!!”
“GGRRRROOOOOOAAAAAAAARRR!!!!” the dragon bellows, once more blasting a cone of cold air towards you. Your charge leads you straight into the freezing blast, and despite your aura shielding you, you feel ice begin forming all over your body.
“You’re gonna need more than this to stop me!” you roar, closing the last few dozen yards of distance between you. The dragon stops it’s icy breath, mouth closing then opening wide as it tries to devour you.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=9TjS4vtg8MQ

“What?” you say, trying to move away from it but your body won’t move. Your entire body is frozen in place, yet despite that your charge still carries you right towards it. Unfortunately for it, you don’t need your body to move. Using your flight you twist out counterclockwise, around and narrowly dodging it’s chomping bite. As the beast chomps down, you fire off an Explosive Wave. “HAAAA!”

Your energy blasts out and shatters the ice, freeing you from your frozen prison and allowing you to move freely again. With no time to waste yoy raise the blade overhead, ready to end it’s life, but just before you swing see movement out of the corner of your eye. At the same time you feel your instincts kicking in, twisting towards your right to see a clawed hand slashing at you.

“HAAAAAAA!!!” you roar, swinging down and severing the beast’s hand. It’s “thumb” remains intact on the hand, but your slash cuts the rest of it’s hand clean off. Steaming blood sprays, the beast recoiling in pain.
“GRRRRRAAAAAAAA!!” it bellows, a noise of shock and agony as it tries flying back away from you. With a swipe of it’s wings it hits you with a torrent of powerful wind, you bracing yourself against the sudden storm. It’s wings beat two, three times as it backs away from you. “RRRRROOOOOOOAARRR!!”

Clearly it’s angry, and in pain from your hit, but also seems unsure if it should attack you or simply cut it’s losses and run away. But you’re not letting it get away!
cont
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>>4892103
Well? What do you do now?
>Keep your sword up, brute force your way through whatever it throws your way and end it with one more slash
>Keep your distance, avoid it’s attacks and use your own lethal ki attacks to take it down
>Try the Super Energy Javelin again, see if it’ll work on this thing
>Piercing Fist MkII, charge through whatever it tries throwing your way and blast straight through it’s skull
>Instant Transmission behind it, and try for a sneak attack kill with your sword
>Other(write in)
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>>4892105
>Instant Transmission behind it, and try for a sneak attack kill with your sword
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>>4892105
>Instant Transmission behind it, and try to cut off one of it's wings
This should send it crashing down, and should be easier to cut through than any other part
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>>4892105
>Instant Transmission behind it, and try for a sneak attack kill with your sword
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>>4892105
>Instant Transmission behind it, and try for a sneak attack kill with your sword
Just as planned.
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>>4892112
>>4892113
>>4892115
>>4892117
Instant Transmission wins it, roll me a 2d100.
First DC: 50
Second DC: 60
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Rolled 25, 4 = 29 (2d100)

>>4892177
>wins
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Rolled 39, 82 = 121 (2d100)

>>4892177
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Rolled 38, 63 = 101 (2d100)

>>4892177
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>>4892185
>>4892198
>>4892205
39/100, 82/100. Looks like the “sneak” in sneak attack failed. Writing
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>>4892217
That's.... Unfortunate, but honestly kinda amusing, lol
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>>4892105
“Tch. You won’t get away that easily.” you mutter, again raising your sword overhead in the Djem So stance. It sees this and arches it’s neck back, readying another icy blast. But you’ve had enough, dropping your right hand from blade to forehead. “I’m ending this, now!”
“GWRRROOOAAAAAAAAARRR!!” the white dragon bellows, once more sending a blizzard towards you. But as it does your focus crystallizes, and activate your Instant Transmission. One moment you’re dozens of yards from the dragon, it’s wall of frozen air rushing towards you, and the next you’re behind the beast’s head. You raise your right hand back to the blade, readying to swing down and end this as the creature’s blast ends.

“HAAA!!” you roar, swinging down at it’s neck. But you’d underestimated the dragon’s speed, neck snaking out around your blade. It snarls, lunging forward and trying to devour you. “RRRAAAA!!”

Using the Su Ma movement you continue the momentum of your swing, flipping up and over the beast’s snapping jaws. Continuing the flip you focus and twist, lining up with it’s neck. And with the full power of your Ascended Berserker form, swing downward at the side of it’s neck.

“DIIIEEEE!!” you roar, blade of energy crashing down onto the dragon’s scaly hide. But despite it’s natural armor, scales don’t do much to absorb the power of your swing. Scales fly, your blade slashing deep as the beast’s steaming blood sprays.
“RRRRAAAAAAAAOOOOOO!!!” it bellows in agony, head and neck thrashing to try and escape from your blade. But you keep slashing, pushing your blade deeper and deeper until it slices clean through.
“HAAAAAA!!” you roar, blood spraying as the head and body of the beast falls. It drops from the sky towards the ground. Then you look down after it, seeing it now dropping right towards the village! If that beast crashes down, it could kill beings of such physical weakness like the Crimson Demons. You have to stop it!

But how?
>Dash down under and catch the monster’s body, don’t let it drop
>Fly down and catch it by the tail, use the momentum to pitch it away from the village
>Use your telekinesis to stop both head and body from crashing down on their homes
>Other(write in)
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>>4892312
>>Fly down and catch it by the tail, use the momentum to pitch it away from the village
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>>4892312
>Use your Multiform and split into 2, then catch the body and head separately
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>>4892312
>>Fly down and catch it by the tail, use the momentum to pitch it away from the village
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>>4892312
>>Fly down and catch it by the tail, use the momentum to pitch it away from the village
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>>4892318
You don’t have time to Multiform, it takes too long to split yourself. By the time you’d achieve it, both would have already hit the ground
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>>4892327
ffffffffffffffffff-
>>4892312
>>4892318
Switching to this
>Dash down under and catch the monster’s body, don’t let it drop
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>>4892312
>>Use your telekinesis to stop both head and body from crashing down on their homes
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>>4892312
This>>4892330
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>>4892316
>>4892318
>>4892319
>>4892320
>>4892330
>>4892335
>>4892340
Fly down and catch it by the tail, use the momentum to pitch it away from the village wins. Roll me a 2d100.
First DC: 20
Second DC: 40
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Rolled 3, 18 = 21 (2d100)

>>4892351
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>>4892352
I’ll take that as my cue the dice gods do not favor me today
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Rolled 90, 88 = 178 (2d100)

>>4892351
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Rolled 58, 95 = 153 (2d100)

>>4892351
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Rolled 74, 16 = 90 (2d100)

>>4892351
>>4892355
fuck
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>>4892352
>>4892355
>>4892356
90/100, 95/100. Impressive success, writing.
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>>4892377
>>4892312
“SHIT!!” you shout, immediately ending your Super Ki Blade and blitzing down after the corpse. Ignoring the head, which you chopped close behind the jaw, you follow the body and reach out to the tail. Your hands both grab onto the scaly appendage, the scales icy to the touch. And slippery, the tail immediately slipping right through your fingers! “Oh no you don’t!”

Snarling you grip down harder, fingertips puncturing through the tail and giving you a much firmer grip. And while you could stop it here, it would take more effort. So instead you twist, spinning once and swinging the body off-course to send it crashing down over at the site of Chilli’s wedding. The body lands with a tremendous crash, crystal ground beneath the snow shattering under the impact. But you turn back, watching the head drop and realize you can’t make it in time. You can’t stop it!

“SHYAAAA!!” you hear a familiar voice call, seeing a faint crimson glow surround the skull as it suddenly just stops. Turning towards the voice, you see the still-Golden form of Freeza holding his left hand out towards it, standing on the roof of Megumin’s folks home. He notices you, slowly lowering it in the open ground before the chief’s partly-snow buried home. “When you had claimed you were getting breakfast, this isn’t quite what I had imagined.”
“Well, my kids do eat a lot.” you reply with a chuckle, seeing the confused face of the chief popping out the second story window overlooking the courtyard.

“What’s all this ruck-a DRAGON?!” he shouts, clearly confused by the dragon’s head and not having heard the earlier announcement. “We’re under attack!!”
“It’s all clear.” you call down, the confused elder looking up towards you.
“You...You slayed the beast?!” he calls up to you, confused. “An actual white dragon?”
“Yeah, it followed me from up north.” you reply, dropping down towards him. “I had brought back a few of those ursine beasts for breakfast, but it followed me I guess.”
“You...Not only did you traverse the frozen wastes, but also killed a White Dragon.” he says, the shock still evident on his face. “You Saiyans are a different breed.”
“I’ll take that as a compliment.” you reply. “Now if you’ll excuse me, I have a breakfast to cook.”

Well?
>Invite him and the whole village as well, this beast is many times larger than a Mindslayer so could probably feed everyone
>Don’t invite the villagers, but don’t deny anyone who comes down a generous helping of Dragon as well
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>>4892446
>>Invite him and the whole village as well, this beast is many times larger than a Mindslayer so could probably feed everyone
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>>4892446
>>Invite him and the whole village as well, this beast is many times larger than a Mindslayer so could probably feed everyone
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>>4892446
>Invite him and the whole village as well, this beast is many times larger than a Mindslayer so could probably feed everyone

Why not? I bet they have some stuff on their Adventurer cards or whatever that'd benefit from eating Dragon meat, and the thing's huge, so we may as well.
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>>4892446
>Invite him and the whole village as well, this beast is many times larger than a Mindslayer so could probably feed everyone
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TEST
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>>4892475
Coming through good on my end.
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So since that happened, we have:
>>4892453
>>4892459
>>4892461
>>4892462
Invite him and the whole village as well, this beast is many times larger than a Mindslayer so could probably feed everyone wins. Written, and posting
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>>4892446
“Oh, and if anyone wants to help themselves, they’re more than welcome to.” you add on. “We eat a lot, but even we can’t eat ALL of that in one meal.”
“I’ll make sure everyone is made aware.” he says, you flying over to Freeza as you hear him mutter. “A White Dragon. Solo.”
“Thanks for the assist.” you say, waving as you fly past him back towards the dragon’s corpse. “Sure you don’t want me to save you a cut?”
“Oh no, by all means help yourselves. I’m not quite in the mood myself.” he replies, you shrugging and flying down to the site of yesterday’s battle. Landing beside the giant beast’s corpse, you create your blade and again get to work. It takes you maybe half an hour’s work preparing the dragon, slicing off limbs and impaling them on Chilli’s crystal pillars before lighting each ablaze with your ki, but when all’s said and done, your breakfast smells absolutely delicious. Your own mouth was watering, you biting chunks out of the severed tail to keep your appetite in check while preparing the rest. But once it’s ready, there’s clearly enough meat for the entire village and then some.

KABOOOOM

Suddenly there is a tremendous impact a short distance away, you whirling around to see what the hell else is gunning for your breakfast. But as the snow blows away, you see a very familiar-looking, extra-wide pod’s door begin opening upwards.

“Perfect timing son.” you shout down as Chilli and Megumin exit the pod. “C’mon up here, both of you and come get you some breakfast.”
“What the hell?” he asks, after flying up and out of the crater with Megumin in his arms. “Snow?”
“White scales? No way!” Megumin shouts, pointing at the steaming pile of miscellaneous dragon organs and the skin, much of it with the scales still on. “The village was attacked by a white dragon?! And I missed it?!!”
“Dad, are you okay?” Chilli asks you, suddenly concerned. Remembering the scratches that bear gave you you wave him off, and answer.
“All good.” you reply, taking another bite out of the tail and gesturing for them to come over. “You two hungry?”

Chilli flies over, Megumin still clearly shaken but both of them begin eating. Not even a minute later Meloka arrives with the kids, Caulifla actually drooling at the smell. You serve up each of your kids and wife, and sit down with them all to eat as well. A few minutes later the villagers begin arriving as well in ones and twos, and soon the entire Crimson Demon village has come on down to eat as well. This time the meal goes off without a hitch, no other beings showing up to ruin things for your family. And after eating until you can’t take another bite, Megumin’s father Hyoizaburoo approaches you.
cont
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>>4892446
>Invite him and the whole village as well, this beast is many times larger than a Mindslayer so could probably feed everyone
WHO WANTS BBQ, finally the fucking gook finished whatever tracking installation he was doing. Also for some fucking reason I'm getting warnings for posts on mlp?
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>>4892488
“Felling such a beast isn’t an easy feat. I must say I’m impressed.” he says, breaking the ice before addressing what he wants to talk about. “White dragons are exceptionally rare, and even more difficult to slay. Which makes things useful for spellcraft, like their scales, bones, organs, et cetera very valuable. Did you have any particular plans for these parts? Or would you mind gifting them to us, and allow us their use?”

Well? What say you?
>”Help yourself, I have no use of them. Give them out to whoever needs them.”
>”Good point, I’ll give the corpse to the village for you all to use as you see fit.”
>”I’m taking it back with me, to see what we can get out of it first. But if you want something specific, you’re more than welcome to it.”
>Other(write in)
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>>4892492
>>”Help yourself, I have no use of them. Give them out to whoever needs them.”
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>>4892492
>”Help yourself, I have no use of them. Give them out to whoever needs them.”
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>>4892492
>”Good point, I’ll give the corpse to the village for you all to use as you see fit.”
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>>4892492
>”Help yourself, I have no use of them. Give them out to whoever needs them.”
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>>4892492
>>”Help yourself, I have no use of them. Give them out to whoever needs them.”
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>>4892492
>>”Good point, I’ll give the corpse to the village for you all to use as you see fit.”
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>>4892492
>”Good point, I’ll give the corpse to the village for you all to use as you see fit.”
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test, damnit my phone wifi is being blocked again.
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>>4892492
>>”Help yourself, I have no use of them. Give them out to whoever needs them.”
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>>4892495
>>4892497
>>4892499
>>4892500
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>>4892504
>>4892511
>>4892528
“Help yourself...” wins it. Writing.
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test
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>>4892549
Ayyyye, thanks again for phone posting advice GD
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>>4892492
”Help yourself, I have no use for all that stuff.” you tell him, gesturing to the leftovers from the body. “Give it out to whoever needs them.”
“You’d really just...Give is everything?” he asks, clearly shocked. “The whole body?”
“Well, yeah?” you answer, a bit confused. “I mean, I can’t use anything but the meat from it anyways. If it can be of help to you all, then by all means. I can trust you to split it out, right?”
“Of course. I’ll give everything out, and make sure anything valuable does not go to waste.” he says seriously, nodding to you. “Such a kingly gift will not be wasted.”

“Are parts of dragons really that valuable for crafting magical items?” Chilli asks him.
“Of course.” he answered his son-in-law. “Dragon bones are seeped in magic. And judging from the size of this one, it was at least two hundred years old. Being imbued with draconic magic for that long makes all the parts of this creature excellent material for crafting. Dragon bones, scales, magic organs, claws, eyes, every part is exceptionally powerful. If you want, you can stay with us for the next week or so? I’d appreciate your help, taking it all apart and showing you how to use them all.”

Chilli actually spends several seconds pondering this, looking from the dragon’s parts, to you, to Hyoizaburoo and back. Then after a few moments drops his hand, and nods to his father-in-law.

“I think I’d like that.” he says, then turns to you. “It may be a bit before I go back home.”
“Of course, stay here as long as you like.” you tell him. “Just make sure you stay on top of your training kiddo, alright?”
“I will.” he replies, smirking a bit. “This so-called Demon King does like sending me targets every few days.”
“Warning. Demon Army forces approaching from the east.” comes the security system’s call, almost as if on cue. “Hostile gorce numbering in the tens of thousands approaching. All available mages, report to the eastern perimeter.”

You and your son share a look for a few seconds, before the both of you bust out laughing. After a few moments laughing at the perfect timing you lay a hand on his shoulder, and wish him luck. Chilli nods, flashing up into a Super Saiyan as he takes to the sky, orients himself on the approaching enemy force, and flies off.

But what about you?
>Go as well, not to ‘help’ but to simply watch him work
>It’s about time you all head home, and get back to your own trainings
>Follow him, be on hand if he needs immediate assistance
>Other(write in)
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>>4892642
>>It’s about time you all head home, and get back to your own trainings
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>>4892642
>Follow him, be on hand if he needs immediate assistance
>"The scientists on my planet are making new Saibamen, would any of this be good for whatever it is they do?"
POKEMON, GOTTA MAKE THAT DEATH WORLD, POKEMON!
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>>4892642
>>It’s about time you all head home, and get back to your own trainings
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>>4892642
>It’s about time you all head home, and get back to your own trainings
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>>4892646
>>4892649
>>4892656
It’s about time you all head home, and get back to your own trainings wins it. Writing.
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>>4892642
>It’s about time you all head home, and get back to your own trainings
He's getting there, slowly but surely.
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>>4892681
....Why the hell are you idiots not wanting to watch chili and see what he can do?

You're all fucking failures as Parents.
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>>4892722
mid dle chi ld
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>>4892722
It seems the running gag of Karn ignoring Chilli continues once more.
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>>4892722
We know he's got it handled, and he's already had multiple chances to show what he's made of.
He's a big boy, we don't need to hover over him constantly. That's just overcompensating and exactly what we want to avoid.
Besides we do actually have our own business to attend to.
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>>4892722
...Mate we litterally saw him DUNK on a Demon King army YESTERDAY. We know he's got this shit handled, we aren't neglecting him, we're showing we're confident in his abilities and we don't need to be there watching over him to make sure hes safe.


Also unrelated, remember last thread when Mechi said Karn was 'The One' and we must 'Become The Destroyer We Were Meant To Be?'

How Dumplin was there going 'You really are the genuine article.'

When we were getting our Bloodstone pieces pulled out of our bloodstream and organs, we talked to Mechi for the first time. Remember this?
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“I have several questions.” you say, still a bit overwhelmed. “First one though: apparently the other Demon God, Dumplin, knew a version of me. Not me, but from another timeline. Apparently I was strong, strong enough to make that damn kai erase him. Do you know anything about that version of me?”
“Sadly I don’t. Or rather, I know less than you probably want to know.” he starts, you now sitting across from him now that you’ve decided to open up a bit. “But I do know that, much like yourself, that version of yourself was able to break free of the bonds of fate. Which is, undoubtedly, why he was erased.”

“Hrmm, there are a few different paths laid out for you to grow stronger.” he says, stroking his short beard. “As a Saiyan, of course, you still have many stronger transformations to unlock and master. Not to mention mastering divine ki, as that other Karn seems to have.”
“Wait, he could use divine ki?” you ask him. “So he was a Super Saiyan God then?”
“Not quite.” Mechikabura says, again holding out the dark orb. You peer into it, seeing another version of yourself facing a ridiculously buff Grey in red and black tights in a strange arena. And while your hair looks like Super Saiyan 3’s, the color isn’t quite right. It isn’t golden like Meloka’s, and not quite green like your own version you’d tapped into against Vegeta. But this version seems more of a blue-green, contrasting sharply against the Grey’s blazing, sun-like aura. “I saw this battle myself, long before this new reality existed. You can become one of the strongest mortals in all universes, Karn. But that’s only one path. You could take it’s opposite, and travel the path your daughter took. Or learn the secrets that old spectre knows, and use the old ways to defeat your foes. And let’s not forget you.”


That Interlude of Karn being a Berserker God in the ToP? I think that was DUMPLINS Karn. Hell....I think that might have been US, because BOTH Karns managed to break freak of the chain of fate, and it even lines up with how Dumplin called us 'the real deal' and Mechi's interest in me.

I think Chrona rewound that entire timeline to its Pre Divergence Point to try and figure out what went wrong and we're the result.
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>>4892733
Is this supposed to be a write in?
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>>4892737
It's theorycraft. We don't have to limit discussion to the latest update ya know.
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>>4892742
I thought he was reposting an update and forgot to greenline it properly.
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>>4892749
No your right. I didn't green text it since I figure it was obviously not me writing it lol.
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>>4892642
“It’s about time we all head home as well.” you say, turning to see the rest of your family gathered up and ready to go. So you reach out telepathically to Raven, current Guardian of New Salda and let her know. “Hey Raven, we’re about ready to head back. Mind making us a way home?”
“Of course. I’ll ready the portal.” she responds. “How’d everything with the wedding go?”
“I’ll tell you when I get back.” you say, suppressing a sigh. “It’s kind of a long story.”
“I understand.” she replies, then reaches out. “Mind if I borrow your eyes?”
“Huh? I mean, sure?” you reply, and suddenly can’t see. Opening your eyes, you find yourself back on the beach. But looking down, realize that this isn’t your body. Somehow, you’re seeing through Raven’s eyes instead of your own!

“Zinthos.” she speaks, raising her right hand. You feel your own right raise as well, and watch as a portal appears before you. You see yourself standing there, which isn’t as bizarre as it sounds considering how many times it’s already happened. You notice the slashes the ursine creature gave you, bloody cuts already dried thanks to the cold, but what gets you is that your eyes aren’t your own. In place of your own eyes are Raven’s. She then blinks, which forces you to blink as well, and suddenly you’re back in your own body.
“Woah. That was...wierd.” you say, shaking your head. The younger kids all rush over to her excitedly, and start telling her about everything. Meanwhile Broly walks off a short distance, transforming and taking his meditative pose to focus on controlling his Berserker anger. After a few minutes of listening Raven then gets them all to start practicing, you then reaching out telepathically and quickly explain everything that happened since you left. The demons looking for Towa, the Time Patrol, and even the dragon, you tell her about everything.

“Seems like you have had a busy day.” she says when you finish up. “Heading off to get started on your own training as well?”
“That’s the plan.” you tell her. “Today I’m going to try-“

Well? What will you do?
>Work on your ki control, and try to get up to using three Warding Eyes at once
>Focus on what you’d done before, and try seeing into the future again
>Use your Energy Body, and have Meloka keep attacking it to see how long you can maintain it
>Focus on trying to sense everything’s energy at once, using New Salda’s help when needed
>Other?(write in: explain your training and the resulting ability you’d like to gain. CAN BE VETOED)
(Note: this is NOT an everyday practice option vote. These are for unlocking the different passives you’ll be able to train up into using later)
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>>4892759
>>Use your Energy Body, and have Meloka keep attacking it to see how long you can maintain it
Berserkers downside/strength is its energy generation, we need to let power out to avoid over stressing ourselves, but that power also gives our Ki Techniques a huge boost. Combining that with Berserkers natural ability to tank hits? I think it would be great.

And just to be clear GD. I'm right about the Berserker Ki mechanics stuff I posted right?
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>>4892759
>Work on your ki control, and try to get up to using three Warding Eyes at once
Karn really needs more Control, if we want to be able to truly control our Transformations
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>>4892762
We can get control mate and we're already at like B+ Ranking IIRC since our lessons with Meloka.. This is about Passive Abilities down the line. Not a normal Ki Control mate.
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>>4892759
>Focus on what you’d done before, and try seeing into the future again
Passive Precognition bros. Think about it.
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>>4892759
>Focus on what you’d done before, and try seeing into the future again

Precognition is a trump card that Karn needs, guys. He can beatdown the shit out of people already-- technique is what will take us to that next level (other than the new transformations, of course).
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Oh man, here we go. I'm thinking either practicing to see into the future or the energy body training. The energy body sounds like the most reliable and we already know it'll mesh well with Karn's fighting style. The former could come in clutch though, but Karn getting worn down over extended fights is a consistent problem and the EB seems like the best defense against death by a thousand cuts.
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>>4892759
>>4892764
Fair, fair.
Swapping >>4892762 This to >>4892765 This, then.
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>>4892759
>>Focus on trying to sense everything’s energy at once, using New Salda’s help when needed
Main Instant Transmission for teleport spamming
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>>4892761
To a point. You’re not gonna explode or anything anymore. But the better way to explain it is like the old Budokai games. Instead of draining your ki it fills it, and when you’re capped at 7 full bars it starts slowly burning down your stamina. Energy Body could be a counterweight against that basically, making even the Ascended form energy neutral
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>>4892759
>>Focus on trying to sense everything’s energy at once, using New Salda’s help when needed
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Well my vote won't win sooooo>>4892761
Changing that to this

>>4892759
>>Focus on what you’d done before, and try seeing into the future again
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>>4892759
>>Focus on what you’d done before, and try seeing into the future again
>>4892794
Yeah, I was about to vote for energy body too, but it wouldn't have been enough. I did warm up to the precognition idea more when I realized that it meshes well with our defensive djem so style. Imagine how easy the parries will be.
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Rolled 56, 34, 8, 76, 37 = 211 (5d100)

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>>4892794
Focus on what you’d done before, and try seeing into the future again wins it. Now the first path of many opens before you. Writing.
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>>4892759
“Hey, you still in there?” you think, focusing on that small portion of your mind where the spectre of the ancient Darth Bane lurks as you sit comfortably on the sandy beach. “Have something I want to ask about.”
“Of course. However, congratulations are in order.” the ancient Sith announces, a vision of him appearing before you. Not standing over you, but actually sitting across from you as if equals. Which is a little surprising, considering his usual attitude. “Not many can say they’ve slain a god before. Much less the Time Goddess herself. Impressive work, Karn.”

“Thanks. But I couldn’t have done it without help.” you reply.
“Without help YET.” Bane interjects, making a valid point. “At your current rate of growth, and with the exponential nature of your race’s transformations, within a few decades at most I’d say you should be strong enough to challenge her yourself. That is, if the cowardly Kai would actually stand and fight. All that said, I know what you really want. Foresight.”
“Being able to see my opponents’ moves before they themselves do would be a great advantage.” you say, remembering even the fight with the bears earlier how even one of them managed to get a single hit on you. “Like how we did during the war.”
“Foresight is an impressive ability, but it isn’t infallible.” the Sith Lord cautions, raising a single finger to make his point. “The future isn’t truly set in stone. There are those who exist outside the flow of fate, unburdened by it’s decrees.”
“You mean those damn Time Patrollers?” you ask, temper flaring a bit at remembering them.

“No.” he answers, pointing at you. “I mean you.”
“Wait, me?” you ask, a bit confused.
“It is no mistake those who travel more freely through tume seek you out, Karn.” Bane says seriously. “I’ve looked through your past myself, through your memories, and cannot find it. But at some point in your past, you broke the shackles of your own fate. No longer are you bound to destiny. Your future is truly your own.”

At this he paused for a few moments, allowing you to think this over. If a being’s fate is pre-determined, then the SKoT can see how they would make any choice and see how a whole timeline flows from beginning to end. No wonder she wants someone like you, who’s choices she can’t predict gone. “However, you are not the only being like this. There are others who exist unbound from fate. And should you come to blows with one, Foresight would prove useless. The Unchained are far harder to predict, and Foresight could be more of a hinderance than an aid against them. Which, no doubt, is why your sneak attack was so successful against the Time Kai. Being unable to see your attack coming, she was defenseless against your power.”

-Saiyan Conqueror Quest 158 paused-
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>>4892838
And that’s it for tonight, enjoy battling a dragon? Ready to get back into the harder training, and finding all the different options for passive abilities? All this and more when episode 158 resumes, in around 22 1/2 hours!
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>>4892847
>And that’s it for tonight, enjoy battling a dragon?
Hell yeah, fighin' Dragons is ALWAYS Awesome, and the beast put up a decent fight, admittedly due to shit rolls, but whatever, it was cool, and that's all that matters!

>Ready to get back into the harder training, and finding all the different options for passive abilities?
ABSOLUTELY! I can't wait to start getting into a good long training arc, and starting to finally go into Detail with our Techniques, Mastering them as much as possible!
Also, for the Future Sight, *PIC INTENSIFIES*

>All this and more when episode 158 resumes, in around 22 1/2 hours!
I'm Hype as Hell!
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>>4892847
Say GD how on point am I with my theory here?

>>4892733
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>>4892847
Looking forward to seeing what Foresight’s path has in store for us.
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>>4892847
>22 1/2
Whoops, that’s blatantly wrong
>>4892882
Glad you had fun
>>4892887
It wasn’t Chronoa’s doing, she erased that other Karn and his entire timeline.
>>4892888
Remember, this was just to unlock the path as an option down the road
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>>4892446
Please tell me that there is some uncooked piece of that white dragon that Karn took as a sample for the scientists.
This lizard we just killed could be source of a huge improvement to everything related to the Death World project. I hope this was not lost.

I mean I know there is stuff we left to the villagers, but are we gonna have to get back here again to get the sample? (possibly before it starts rotting) Chance to see Chilli again.
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>>4892887
>how on point am I with my theory here?
>>4893129
>It wasn’t Chronoa’s doing, she erased that other Karn and his entire timeline.
Anon perhaps you almost found the answer.
>Chronoa decides to erase Dumplin's Karn's timeline.
>She starts doing it.
>That Karn realizes what is happening, that he and everything is doomed.
>He had to act quick before everything ceased to exist.
>Before he got erased he made a Wish on Divine Dragon Force to preserve him and DDF and escape from here back to a safe moment in time in a timeline that is not erased.
>This caused new split in timelines and created two branches of time.
>One where Karn's life goes as Chronoa thinks it should.
>Second one and that is OUR timeline.
This was the moment when it happened and the cause for what happened when Karn decided to choose different mission that fateful day.
>The wish was so taxing it caused Divine Dragon Force to revert into normal Dragon Force and also made it dormant till Karn reawakened it later.
We are that Karn but we don't remember it , the same one that we saw in vision that Mechi showed us. Our DDF is the same DDF that made that wish then in an erased timeline. We just both don't remember. We are Dumplin's friend, we just don't remember it.
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>>4893187
I did not made it clear but I meant, that Karn's body was erased, but his soul/essence/mind traveled back in time with DDF.
Perhaps those memories of that erased lifetime are hidden inside Karn.
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>>4892847
>And that’s it for tonight, enjoy battling a dragon?
Yes
>Ready to get back into the harder training, and finding all the different options for passive abilities?
Sure. I'm very happy about the Foresight as it is great in many ways. However the Energy Body passive is also very awesome and I think I want it too (unless something even better gets discovered later).
>>4892780
>But the better way to explain it is like the old Budokai games. Instead of draining your ki it fills it, and when you’re capped at 7 full bars it starts slowly burning down your stamina. Energy Body could be a counterweight against that basically, making even the Ascended form energy neutral
Your explanation makes me think that Energy Body plus Berserker path create a really good combo. Other people using Energy Body would not get such great bonuses from it, but Karn with Berserker transformations will be on another level.

I'm hopeful that maybe later we can learn this Energy Body passive too and have an option to enter full damage resistance/damage blocking mode.
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>>4893167
Karn didn’t take any with him.And they would only need a bone or scale
>>4893187
That Karn was erased completely. As in gone gone.
>>4893225
This was only to unlock the training later on, this isn’t setting these passives in stone.
>Your explanation makes me think that Energy Body plus Berserker path create a really good combo.
Because it is. It covers the disadvantages of being in the Berserker form excellently.

Only ONE passive will be usable at a time. So once you‘ve seen the options, you will have to pick one
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>>4893254
>That Karn was erased completely. As in gone gone.
That's sad to hear.
>>4893254
>Only ONE passive will be usable at a time. So once you‘ve seen the options, you will have to pick one
I understand. Foresight is great, but when we encounter another "Unchained" we won't have use for it anyway. That is why having another great passive available like maybe Energy Body would be nice.

By the way will using Foresight passively allow us to detect the "Unchained" when we encounter one?
>Like Karn is meeting a group of new people, but one of them does not show up in any possible future or vision of that person is distorted. It hinting that another anomaly has been sighted.
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>>4893264
Yes.
Not quite. It cannot predict their actions, so it will show you a -possible- action. Which could be correct, or could be something so wrong that trying to counter that “foreseen” action could get you killed. Trying to play fate comes with extremely serious risks
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>>4893275
>Which could be correct, or could be something so wrong that trying to counter that “foreseen” action could get you killed. Trying to play fate comes with extremely serious risks
Thanks for the warning. It's good to know this.
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>>4893278
When it comes time for that choice I’ll have more details on each.
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>>4892838
“However they don’t seem to be as common in this age. Outside your own family of course.” Bane says with a wry smile. “After all, at least two of your children have already defied fate. From what I can tell.”
“Good.” you reply, then close your eyes. “Better for them to make their own paths, than be bound to one. Anyways, would you mind helping me again? I would like to be able to focus on using Foresight with as little startup time as possible.”
“Would you?” he asks, you opening your eyes and looking curiously to him. “Or would you prefer to ALWAYS be using Foresight?”

“Hold on. That’s possible?” you ask, shocked. “You can master it to that point?”
“Of course. It is not easy, but it is possible.” Bane answers. “But first, you have to become far more adept at entering the correct mindset, to clear your mind of all thoughts.”

For the next couple hours Bane works with you on using Foresight. It is difficult going, the Sith Lord having you close your eyes and hold hip his hand. With anywhere from one to all five fingers up. You would focus on seeing the moment your eyes opened, and then before opening your eyes call out what you see. For the hours of doing this, over and over, you only manage to actually see the correct future once.

“Do not be discouraged.” he says as you finally rise, hearing the old Guardian’s spectre addressing the kids. “Even seeing once in such a short timeframe, with as little practice as you have had, is a success. However, if you want to get to the point of mastery, you’ll have to train this for hours every day.”
“I’ll be thinking about it.” you answer, walking towards the rest of your family as the old Guardian’s shade vanishes. That’s the first of the morning’s trainings done, now onto taking them into the Gravity Chamber.

But what about yourself? What will you do?
>Activate your Energy Body, and have them all train by sparring against you again
>Work on your ki control, and try to get up to controlling three Warding Eyes at once
>Focus on trying to sense everything’s energy at once, using New Salda’s help when needed
>Other?(write in: explain your training and the resulting ability you’d like to gain. CAN BE VETOED)
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>>4893288
>>Activate your Energy Body, and have them all train by sparring against you again
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>>4893288
>Focus on trying to sense everything’s energy at once, using New Salda’s help when needed
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>>4893288
>Activate your Energy Body, and have them all train by sparring against you again
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>>4893288
>>Activate your Energy Body, and have them all train by sparring against you again
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>>4893288
>>Activate your Energy Body, and have them all train by sparring against you again
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Do all living beings have mana in them? Or only the magically gifted?
I know Karn has no magic aptitude, but does he have some mana in him anyway? Can there exist a passive that would boost production of this mana?

Maybe he could then use mana like Ki.
A bit of a brute force way of using magical energy, but still I'm curious if that's possible.
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>>4893313
Why bother?
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Rolled 61, 80, 86, 55, 52, 61, 43, 77 = 515 (8d100)

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>>4893303
Activate your Energy Body, and have them all train by sparring against you again wins it. Roll me a 7d100.
1st DC: 50
2nd DC: 30
3rd DC: 40
4th DC: 40
5th DC: 20
6th DC: 60
7th DC: ??
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Rolled 52, 47, 12, 35, 4, 92, 71 = 313 (7d100)

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>>4893330
I'm curious.
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Rolled 92, 21, 20, 20, 31, 39, 34 = 257 (7d100)

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Rolled 96, 11, 41, 89, 40, 34, 25 = 336 (7d100)

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>>4893357
96, 47, 41, 89, 40, 92, 71
All have passed, only the last one remains unknown.
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>>4893357
96/100, 47/100, 41/100, 89/100, 40/100, 92/100, 71/100. Quite a collection of successes, writing. Especially the most important one.
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>>4893367
So long as we don't horribly injure the kids by accident, I'm happy.
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>>4893288
“Alright, come on everyone.” you say to your kids. “Today we’re going to try something a bit different with training today. Let’s head on over to the gravity chamber.”
“Okay!” Caulifla shouts out the loudest of them all, you leading your family back home to the old ship. As you all fly you transform, taking your Ascended Berserker form once more.
“Dad?” Broly asks, sounding a bit concerned. “What’s going on?”
“You’ll see soon enough.” you tell him, dropping out of the air and flying towards the ground. You land outside the ship, everyone following you into the gravity chamber except Meloka, Okira and Karn Jr. As you crank it up to ten times New Salda’s gravity, barely feeling the pressure, you close your eyes and focus while speaking. “Alright everyone, I want you all to take on your strongest forms.”

As you do, you begin pulling in and hardening your own aura around you, almost as if forming a shell around your body. Opening your eyes, your entire body is seemingly glowing with emerald energy. Broly, Tomitsu and Caulifla all have taken their Ascended forms, Maz and Kayle having gone Super Saiyan as they all look to you.

“Now, for today’s training, I want all of you to hit me as hard as you can.” you say, taking your stance. Not with energy attacks, but to keep attacking me relentlessly. Don’t let me hit you, still fight like you mean it. Ready?”
“Ready!” the five of them shout, taking their stances. Broly and Caulifla take stances similar to your own, Tatsu and Tomi taking their odd conjoined stance while Maz and Kayle take stances similar to the late Guardian’s. You exhale, lowering your power as low as it goes without reverting to a lesser form.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=H0nxWrXEfz4

“Let’s go!” you shout, and start charging towards the five of them. Broly doesn’t hesitate, launching himself at you and swinging for your face. Which you don’t make any efforts to block or dodge, taking his punch right on the nose. Your Energy Body absorbs most of his strike’s power, so much so that his attack doesn’t even slow you down. Reaching up you grab him by the face, and much gentler than you’d done to Trunks slam his head down onto the floor.
“HIYAAAAA!!” Caulifla shouts, planting her foot on the top of your head. Were your powers even and the Energy Body not active, that strike could have rung your bells pretty hard. But thanks to your ki absorbing the blow, you barely feel it. so you reach up with your left, grabbing at her ankle but she’s already on the move and flipping away from you.
cont
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>>4893479
“HAAAAA!!” Tomitsu roars, both Tatsu and Tomi’s mouths shouting simultaneously as they attack. Her left in his right, Tatsu swings his sister around at you into a powerful right turning kick. Again you make no move to block the hit, charging through their attack to grab both of their linked arms in your hands. “Wh-Wha-AAAAAA!!” they shout as you easily overpower their grip, tossing them both in opposite directions.
“HRRRAAA!” Maz shouts, flying right at you
“HYYAAAA!” Kayle shouts as well, both of them planting flying kicks side-by-side in your face. But you still don’t stop, charging through their combined kick. Each of the twins is knocked aside, you holding your arms out and catching each of them with your biceps. You charge another three steps then stop, the momentum carrying Maz and Kayle away and slamming them into the far wall of the chamber. You turn around, only to be met with Broly’s left fist.

“RRRAAAAA!!” he roars, strength surging. But still his attack cannot even so much as staffer you. So you retaliate with a slowed left hook punch, which he ducks then fires off a quick one-two into your face before sucking the return left backhand, and flipping forward over your straight right into a devastating right axe kick. Again another destructive blow is near-completely negated against your ki armor, at your respective powerlevels now such a blow should have at least knocked you down.
“Gotcha.” you say, catching his leg with your right hand as he tries backflipping away. So you casually spin him around over your head, then pitch him at Tatsu and Tomi trying to touch and remake Tomitsu. The three siblings go down in a pile, and you can’t help but smirk a bit. You haven’t used this technique in a while, and can’t remember why not. In fact you don’t even feel it really draining your ki as you’d remember it doing before. Perhaps you’ve just gotten stronger?

You spend the next hour or so sparring with your kids, who very quickly realize that their attacks can’t even slow you down. So they change tactics, trying to use Su Ma to evade you while still attacking. However, without you so much as flinching at their attacks, even the tricky Su Ma style is no match against this combination. Getting close to you like this is simply not an option for them.

“Alright hun, my turn.” Meloka says as you all exit the chamber. “I saw what you’re trying. Now how about we put it to a real test?”

Well?
>Absolutely, let’s go!
>Let’s do it after lunch, and we’re all ready to go
>Not today, your techniques will cut right through mine
>Other?(write in)
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>>4893481
>>Let’s do it after lunch, and we’re all ready to go
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>>4893481
>Absolutely let's go!
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>>4893481
>Absolutely, let’s go!
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>>4893481
>>Absolutely, let’s go!
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>>4893481
>Absolutely, let’s go!
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>>4893481
>Absolutely, let’s go!
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>>4893481
>Absolutely, let’s go!
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>>4893481
>>Absolutely, let’s go!
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>>4893525
Absolutely, let’s go! wins it. Roll me a 4d100.
1st DC: 40
2nd DC: 70
3rd DC: ??
4th DC: 50
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Rolled 97, 11, 86, 61 = 255 (4d100)

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Rolled 51, 63, 100, 63 = 277 (4d100)

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Rolled 44, 10, 81, 58 = 193 (4d100)

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Rolled 20, 5, 88, 51 = 164 (4d100)

>>4893530
thanks auto update for being so slow.
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>>4893534
.......wat
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>>4893534
97/100, 63/100, CRIT/100, 63/100. Success, failure, mystery crit and success. This is going to be something rather spectacular, writing.
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Rolled 10, 55, 53, 7 = 125 (4d100)

>>4893533
Awesome
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>>4893549
dang, is this our first time critting a hidden dc? I'm proud of myself
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>>4893553
possibly, also congrats
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Holy shit, has Karn finally found a way to actually win sparring matches against his wife instead of almost-dying every time? Did we manage to make Energy Body work against Ki or something?
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>>4893626
The way I see it, the only reason she wins sparring matches more often is because Karn isn't trying to kill her.
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>>4893632
I really think Karn has three settings:

Base power, not trying very hard

50-70%, putting in effort but not blowing it all out

ABSOLUTELY BUTT-FUCK DESTROY AND KILL
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>>4893481
“Absolutely, let’s go!” you say excitedly. “This is gonna be fun. But let’s not do this in the gravity chamber, we won’t have enough space to really move around.”
“Sounds good.” she replies, you all heading outside. You hear Kayle whispering something to her mother, but don’t try listening in. You’re confident in this new, powerful combination and curious how Meloka will deal with it. So you all make your way back outside, all your kids here resting on the ship’s roof as the two of you rise higher into the sky. “So, anything particular you want to try?”

“Let’s keep this little spar hand-to-hand.” you tell her, popping your neck left then right. “Trying to test the limits of this technique.”
“Been awhile since I’ve seen this one.” Meloka says, taking her stance. “Alright, let’s see just how well it works out for you.”

At this she clenches her fists, golden aura exploding up around her and sparks dance around her body as she unleashed the full power of her Super Saiyan Three form. Which surprises you, as you didn’t remember her powerlevel being quite this high.

“This is gonna be fun.” you reply, raising your own powerlevel up to being even with hers. You could go past her strength easily, but you decide an even struggle would be a far better test of this skill. “You ready?”
“Go!” she shouts, dashing headlong at you. You match her charge with your own, the two of you closing the distance near-instantly. Your right fists crash together, shockwave blasting out from you all. However, your Energy Body absorbs most of the power from her strike, allowing your charge to continue. “What?”

“HAAAA!!” you roar, charging through unabated. At the last second she twists aside using Su Ma movement, spinning fully around into a twisting left kick. Her shin strikes the right side of your head, but your hardened ki again takes the brunt of her blow. Once more you barely feel the strike, twisting counterclockwise and swinging at her with a left backfist. She rolls to her left, ducking underneath your fist and using that momentum to swing a crushing right uppercut into your jaw. Once more your ki absorbs most of the attack’s momentum, and instead of being stunned you reach out and slam your right forearm into her chest. “Gotcha!”
“Guh!!” she wheezes, you dropping through the air and slamming her back-first into the water. You smash her down into the sand, backing off enough to grab her head with your right, stand and lift her back up. Then the instant you let go, your left fist crashes into her jaw and sends her soaring straight into the sky. She breaks up out through the water, you blasting off after her as she tumbles back through the air.
cont
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>>4893677
“HAAA!” she shouts, flaring her power a bit and stopping her tumbling as you charge forward. “Haah, haah, that was a good hit.”
“More where that came from!” you bellow, blitzing up after her. She draws her dual Ki Blades, and blitzes right back at you. “RRRAAAAAA!!”
“HYAAAA!!” she roars, flipping forward once and swinging both blades down at you. You don’t remember how well this technique can absorb damage from those blades, so you decide to not take a chance. Raising your left arm horizontally to you block, both of her swords striking your energy. Her blades both cut through your Energy Body, biting deep into the meat of your forearm.

“Tch!” you exhale, but take advantage of the sudden opening in your guard and swing. “HRRAAAA!!”
“GUUUH!!” she wheezes again, your fist crashing into her gut. The force of your blow stuns her, your wife’s blades deactivating as she loses focus.
“RRRRAAAAAA!!” you roar, backfist sending her crashing down to the ground again. Once more her body splashes into the sea, you taking a moment to examine the damage. Her blades bit deep, you realizing your technique still isn’t enough. You need more.

“Wait. That’s it!” you say, sudden realization striking. So you close your eyes, focusing on your ki and drawing even more of your power forth. You weave more and more power into your Energy Body, your armor’s thickness more than tripling as you make it tougher. Now your armored ki extends a few inches out from your body, forming a thick barrier between your body and any potential injury.
“HRRRYAAAA!!” Meloka roars, exploding out of the sea and flying straight back at you with blades drawn again. She spins, blades moving so fast she seemingly forms a slashing wheel of swords. Her blades spin right at you, again slashing against your left forearm. But this time, your ki absorbs the worst of her blows! Her blades slice against your arm more than a dozen times, barely scratching your arm before her momentum burns out and leaves you face-to-face with her. She’s clearly surprised by this, eyes wide in shock. “Wh-What?! How-?”

“Now that’s more like it.” you say, your wife leaping back from you. Focusing, you pour more energy into your shield, it reforming around your arm in a second. “C’mon, I’m just getting started! Let’s see just how strong this technique really is!”

https://youtube.com/watch?v=5COgfH-aUSw

-Saiyan Conqueror Quest 158 End-
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>>4893678
And that’s it for this episode, everyone enjoy the run? Ready to see just how durable you could get, and what the other options your passive could be? All this and more, next time on Saiyan Conqueror Quest!
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>>4893681
Honestly, with this crit-boost we got for Energy Body... I'm sold on it. Originally I was gonna go for sensory boost or Force-Precog, but with this thick of a barrier, it should protect us from any sneak attack we can't see coming, outside of Stands, which Precog and sense can't always help with either. Plus, it helps keep Ascended Berserker's power supply in check, which means we could probably use it to help master the form easier by keeping it on all day... So, honestly I think Energy Body is now definitively Karn's best option. Especially since, with Ki building thanks to Berserker stuff, the actual movement and injuries are his biggest cause of worry when it comes to stamina loss when going all out.

Any other Anons have things they noticed, whether in favor of or against Energy Body?
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>>4893690
Honestly, both energy body and the precog are extremely good. It's hard for me to choose just one.
If we could ever pick up a second passive, doing both would be enormously op - predicting where an enemy's going to hit (if it's something unavoidable) and specifically thickening the FUCK out of the energy body at that location to tank it especially good.
It's worth mentioning that while force precog definitely won't work against unchained, energy body also won't work against certain things like Stands or some forms of magic. I think all the choices have their own respective weakspots.

Another thing worth keeping in mind is that energy body will (at least a little) work on sustained energy control, and working on Precog will deepen our connection to the force over time.
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>>4893698
I think Precog is more worth our time just for that fact-- we have dealt with energy control with for a long time, whereas the Force is something we've really only dabbled in.
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>>4893698
That's true. I think Energy Body's more useful in the long run for training, since it can help with both energy control, and potentially Berserker Mastery by virtue of letting us sustain Berserker longer to begin with.

Simply put, I feel like Karn's never really been one to definitively use the Force, more using it as a side option for when conventional measures and DF fail, or when everyone wants to show off. But progressing our main transformations to be ready for Berserker 3 earlier, at least to me, is a lot more worth it.
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>>4893690
I’ll say this, getting the crit will really show off how powerful the technique can become. However, I did expressly mention it takes a more constant effort to make it stronger and keep it that way.
>>4893698
>hard for me to choose just one
And you’ve only seen two of the possibilities so far. Which is why I didn’t make it a vote for which to take without at least seeing them all, and understanding them.
Each ability will have it’s pros, and cons. Foresight can set up devastating counterattacks, and give you even more a heads up in the rare instances your instincts don’t react in time. But can also backfire spectacularly, and simply doesn’t work against those with markedly faster reaction times. Energy Body is great against physical damage, less so against energy both slashing and piercing damage, and while it does work against certain magic, others it does nothing against. Plus, while not transformed, it is a net negative on your energy and will leave you drained after extended usage.
>>4893702
>we have dealt with energy control with for a long time
And look at the difference between you and Meloka, or even you and Chilli. Granted, Chilli’s a prodigy and possibly the smartest Saiyan currently alive, but my point stands.
>>4893703
If you do go Energy Body, it will enable mastering Ascended and going for 3 noticably faster. However, you’ll be that much harder to stop for your allies when you lose control of yourself.
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>>4893728
>If you do go Energy Body, it will enable mastering Ascended and going for 3 noticably faster. However, you’ll be that much harder to stop for your allies when you lose control of yourself.
Damn. If only there was somebody around who could keep Berserker 3 Karn in check without question.
I bet Future Chaya would love to help Karn train in his new form.
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>>4893728
>If you do go Energy Body, it will enable mastering Ascended and going for 3 noticably faster. However, you’ll be that much harder to stop for your allies when you lose control of yourself.
I mean, considering we have the IC instructions on how to unlock Berserker 3, we can just travel to a distance Planet and let Blue Star Ubo or Golden Freeza beat our ass while everyone else bails.
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>>4893728
Hmmm...mastering the forms quicker is one hell of a benefit, I won't lie.
But I also really like the idea of getting gud with the force to finally get to use the more useful techniques in it.
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>>4893703
Right, but think about the kind of things that Precognition might've warned us about-- LER, or Carnival Forever, maybe. While these corner cases don't happen often, I think they make precog worth it just because of that.
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>>4893762
Does passive Precog see that far ahead, though? From what GD's saying about reaction speed mattering, I feel like that suggests passive Precog only shows the next second or two. Still really good, but a noticeable difference.
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>>4893750
>without question.
In your own timeline, only three individuals of your own universe could do so. And two are divine beings.
>spoiler
Oh certainly.
>>4893758
>Ubo/Golden Freeza
Remember, Berserker 3 would be much closer to Golden Freeza’s full power. He may not be able to fight you, with that power plus this technique running.
>>4893760
It does have a few niche abilities.
>>4893762
>LER
No. It would have shown you Truth killing himself instead of potentially being captured or killed, but LER is one that it wouldn’t work on. Same with Carnival Forever Requiem, as they can define their own realities and the fates of those under their thumb.
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I was all in on precog but now seeing what energy body can really do I’m starting to reconsider. I can’t wait to see what we can get from the other two paths.
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>>4893778
>from the other two paths.
>two
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>>4893777
>Berserker 3 would be much closer to Golden Freeza’s full power.
What? Did you change the PL table again? Cus last I remember, Full Power Golden Frieza was stronger than regular SSJ4 Future Chaya? Or is Berserk 3 that ridiculous of a boost.

On a side note: A King Cold epilogue/interlude would be nice. Nudge nudge
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>>4893809
According to the pastebins, we'd be somewhere around 120 Billion if we, right this moment, acquired Berserker 3. Thing is, that's not taking into account higher PL and other shenanigans we may have then. Mind you, Suppressed Golden Frieza, the only one we have a for-sure number for, is a bit over 1/3 of that power. So assuming he's suppressed to 10% of his power, since that's a very Frieza thing to do...

We'd be around 1/3 the power of True Golden Frieza, not counting any further boost from raw rage, since powerlevels tend to flex a bit when that enters the equation. And again, this is assuming Karn obtained it at his current power.
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>>4893777
>work on. Same with Carnival Forever Requiem, as they can define their own realities and the fates of those under their thumb.

So, in those cases, it couldn't give us warning about entering into those realities-- i.e. that the reflective surfaces would prove dangerous somehow, or that Chili was about to be in danger?
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>>4893801
You’re going to have a difficult choice ahead.
>>4893809
>was stronger
Where did you see that?
We’re finishing the Chaya vs Shellshock intermission for this epilogue.
>>4893830
If Berserker 3 follows how normal 3 goes. But how much more powerful can it be?
>>4893852
No. You wouldn’t be able to foresee anything under their influence
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>>4893939
Well, according to the pastebin you created, GD, it does follow normal 3. But given what you just said, I'm assuming you were secretly hiding some extra power boost from it, probably so as to stop it from influencing our choice between 3 and Primal.
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>>4893974
>probably so as to stop it from influencing our choice between 3 and Primal.
I don’t want to influence you all by giving absolute numbers and causing players to vote based purely on min-maxing Karn instead of making more “in-character” choices
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>>4893939
>If Berserker 3 follows how normal 3 goes. But how much more powerful can it be?
What this anon said
>>4893974

By the Transformation Pastebin, Berserker 3 is 2400, 6 times stronger then the Normal SS 3, which followers all the X6 multiplier Berserk 1 and 2 have had over their vanilla versions.

If we got it right now, it would boost us 116 Billion, minus the unimportant thousands.

Supressed Golden Freeza is 42 Billioin, but we know hes holding back the majority of his power in return for Form Longevity, and Primal still beats out Berserker 3 handily when it comes to PL Multiplier. So I'm not entirely sure what your getting at GD.
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>>4894047
He did just more or less say that there's no concrete numbers for Berserker 3, Berserker Primal, etc, yet, or that he at least hasn't shown us the proper numbers if there are such. In other words, Berserker 3 is as much of an -ERROR- as Berserker Oozaru.
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>>4894047
>By the Transformation Pastebin,
I mean, reread the first note there. Any unachieved form’s #’s aren’t set in stone
>>4894099
>or that he at least hasn't shown us
This. I know the difference between the forms, but don’t want to spoil future surprises.
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>>4894102
Hey GD, do you have an online archive of all the quest's art anywhere?
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So this is the quest I was asked to write a vorefic for?
Jeez, that's a lot of kids.
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>>4894614
What? We didn't order a vorefic here.
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>>4894626
Somebody in the /qtg/ did.
Wanted the Supreme Kai of time eating the MC and his entire family.
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>>4894629
We didn't call for it, pretty sure someone is shitposting.
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>>4894614
Ċ̴̹̟̯o̴̤̬͝s̸̰̱̄̚̚m̵̯̤̯̀i̵̢̗̤͛̂͊c̵͓̺͔͆̾̐ ̶̘͐̓͗h̵̢͚̓ȍ̵͕̫̠̂r̴̨̼̕ŗ̵̏͆͜͜o̷̠͂͌͋͜r̶̝̗̼͌͗̆ ̶͉͔̳͐̋ aside, how many kids does the average saiyan have?
who vores?
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>>4894631
But I'm pretty sure writing it would be funny.
My vorefics in other quests were mostly unrequested by the masses too.
I vore.
It's what I do.
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>>4894632
We don't vore fellow Saiyans here, as for the kids question, it depends on the time in question.
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>>4894634
Okay then, I doubt anyone will read it, but if that's your fetish, it is trash. Do you though.
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>>4894635
>>4894636
Dw bb, I'll write a 12000 word long story and post it all in parts just for you.
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>>4894374
I do not
>>4894614
I’d ask that you not. The guy who asked hates my quest, and admitted so in the qtg. Link here:
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>>4894642
>>4894640
This is a new level of shitposting.
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>>4894644
It's not a shitpost my friend.
Just ask WhatIsAQM.
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>>4894659
Who?
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>>4894661
Guy who runs Fate/Paradox Reincarnator.
Though most of my stories were for another far shittier Fate quest where the QM tried to force his pedophile mindset on his players and had his MC murder the completely innocent main characters of the original story over a decade after they got married and settled down in order to have their 12 year old daughter as a romantic target.
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>>4894667
Oh, okay then, by all means, make a highlight real of his devouring's.
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>>4894667
What the fuck? I usually stay out of the rest of the board’s goings on, but what the actual fuck?
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>>4894676
There's a reason Fate/Awakening Mirror died and Sweets-Loving QM is treated as a pariah.
He's everything a QM shouldn't be.
Like that time he removed the player's waifu from them for just long enough to justify routelocking them to a loli. (a different loli)
Then he had the player's waifu finally show up, acting like a massive cunt and also NTRing them with a clone of themselves.
Also Hitler, actual Adolf Hitler, showed up.
As a loli love interest
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>>4894685
Or that time he followed up an arc where the MC lost all his powers with him recovering his powers for all of three updates before getting his arms and legs cut off and depowered again.
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>>4894685
I should clarify this is Hitler as a loli and one of the MCs love interests.
Oh, I almost forgot when had his MC beat and choke the Player's waifu when they voted to kiss and hug her to end a fight.
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>>4894692
Eat him alive and turn him into shit then. He sounds like a freak.
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>>4894695
Already way ahead of you anon.
A dozen stories ahead, actually.
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Just...What the fuck? I knew Fate was cancer, but the hell?
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>>4894704
Fap game made by degenerates bring in more degenerates. Logic checks out.
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>>4894704
This isn't a problem inherent in Fate/Quests, and the current Fate Quest doesn't have these problems.
It's just Awakening Mirror and Sweets Loving QM.
In fact, WhatIsAQM hates Sweets.
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I didn't even mention the sword that can cut through anything that never managed to hit anything, even in fights against people who were near equals.
Except when the opponent could regenerate.
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>>4894709
Not even talking about the degeneracy, as I know where we are. But that person’s clearly on their first DM-style experience, and mad when someone wants to play differently then how he “knows” it should go. Such bad work.
>>4894711
Is it though? Do those QMs really promote player freedom? Or are they just better at hiding the rails?
>>4894716
Like this. If you give your players a weapon, it has to work as described on the label at least once. Sure, failures can and will happen, but at that point I’d call the QM Som for his blatant bullshit and leave.
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>>4894614
>>4894629
That sounds fucking hilarious
Go for it anon
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>>4894885
>Is it though? Do those QMs really promote player freedom? Or are they just better at hiding the rails?
I like to think Paradox Reincarnator has a lot of freedom, actually. In fact, some would say that it has a little too much freedom.
Also, Sweets-Loving QM is the QM who run Fate Awakening Mirror.
I could say the same thing about DBZ being cancer just because Som exists.
One bad apple doesn't doesn't ruin the crop.

>>4894711
Stop trying to torment other quests, you.
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>>4894985
Nah DBZ is cancer because the low-iq masses who think Goku is the best animoo character ever and will screech at you if you suggest he isn't particularly well written.
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>>4894985
>I could say the same thing about DBZ being cancer just because Som exists.
And the fairest point of the day goes to you.
>>4895005
“BuT cAn He BeAt GoKu?¿” are the dumbest fans. Seriously, Goku hasn’t won a fight against a main antagonist since Freeza. Has more Ls than Vegeta at this point
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>>4895230
>“BuT cAn He BeAt GoKu?¿”
You know what you say to people who ask that? Yes. And then they go on a tirade about how Goku is multiversal blah blah mega god and so what do you do? Double down and say "Okay he still beats Goku tho". They'll foam at the mouth.

Goku has about as much success at beating villains on his own as Roshi does at picking up chicks.
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>>4895272
Wait, which Roshi, canon or DevilArtemis?
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>>4895272
>And then they go on a tirade about how Goku is multiversal blah blah mega god
This is why I don’t interact with powerscalers
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>>4895272
Goku in Z lost to, in order:
Raditz
Vegeta
Ginyu
Freeza(pre Super Saiyan)
Android 19
Perfect Cell
Majin Vegeta wasn’t a loss, the fight was already mutually agreed over when Vegeta ko’d him
Lost to Kid Buu
Goku’s been holding Ls.
>>4895286
There are two types of autism.
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>>4895333
So can we go Goku dunking at some point?
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>>4895389
If you count Fusions, we already have.
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>>4895393
Yeah but we could do it more.
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>>4895389
I mean, you’ve dunked Bardock twice, so that’s 4x Goku. Then blasted Vegito, so that’s 5 Goku. You could go just demolish Kakarot again, as even with Ascended he isn’t exactly a threat in your own timeline. Kid’s just now at the age of FINDING BULMA in canon.
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>>4895418
Our Kakarot is a good boy doing his Saiyan duty, Goku is a fuck up that works for the gods as the multiverse most useful idiot.
>Kid’s just now at the age of FINDING BULMA in canon.
Don't remind me, its weird as fuck to think about his power level at this point.
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>>4895418
>Karn completely demolishing a child to keep up his streak of dunking on Goku
top kek
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>>4895439
>Boss, that's a child...
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>>4895467
That right there is why you're the best, Karn!
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>>4895467
>AMAZING Mission complete! THAT right there is why you're the best Boss. The one and only!"
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>>4893681
>And that’s it for this episode, everyone enjoy the run?
Yes.
> Ready to see just how durable you could get,
Yes.
>and what the other options your passive could be?
Yes.
Right now I'm really positively impressed by Energy Body. Can't wait to see what other options are.

By the way can you answer those questions about magic?
>>4893313
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I also had an idea for a maybe possible passive. Remember "Force Healing"? What if you could somehow get this skill to be passively on all the time. Would this result in Karn getting a passive regeneration?
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>>4895584
We just use Hamon in that case, as we already have a decent use of it already. Force Healing is actually stupidly fucking hard, and would require us to specialize in that.
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I was wondering about Dabura and the demonic inheritance. In this gif Dabura turns opponents into stone with his spit.

I wonder can Towa or kids do it too?
Is that an ability available for demons that needs to be unlocked in some way or can you do this since birth?
It seems to be magical in nature. When Buu turned Dabura into a cookie and ate him, Krillin and Piccolo who got turned to stone earlier, returned to normal.
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>>4895588
Pretty sure its a thing Dabura can do specifically, but other demons can learn it too? GD would know that answer, I forgot it myself since we haven't seen the guy since Babidi.
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>>4895423
True. And he could have been a lot stronger far younger, were he raised on a planet that wasn’t only 1/10th of Planet Vegeta’s gravity.
>>4895581
Good, I’m glad.
It is a powerful option for Berserker. The main weakness of it is being unable to use ki attacks while it’s up, but considering you can just super armor and close through most attacks makes that only exploitable against faster opponents.
>>4893313
Yes, but only a small spark as magic can still affect him. He’s not like the truly magicless, for who magic doesn’t exist and cannot touch them. Basically, we’re this a game, your bar would only be [1/1]. Instead of the [Millions/Millions] his ki is.
Not for Karn, with zero magical aptitude.
>>4895584
That is a skill that, even for those who SPECIALIZE in it, requires their entire focus and they can’t move while it’s active. Regeneration isn’t on the table.
>>4895587
Hamon can accelerate the body’s own healing. But using that as a passive comes with some negative effects for those who stay nearby. Basically the downside of Hamon as a passive is you can give friends/family sun poisoning, depending on your Hamon’s strength.
>>4895588
Yes.
Possibly, you have no idea about that ability in-character. Yes, it is a magical ability. But so is a dragon’s elemental breath.
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>>4895601
>True. And he could have been a lot stronger far younger, were he raised on a planet that wasn’t only 1/10th of Planet Vegeta’s gravity.
Our timeline is the best timeline.
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>>4895601
>The main weakness of it is being unable to use ki attacks while it’s up
Can we still channel certain attacks through our sword while it's up?
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>>4895601
>The main weakness of it is being unable to use ki attacks while it's up

Could we find a way to fire Ki attacks *from* the Energy Body itself? After all, it's made of our Ki, right? An Energy Blade is also just hardened Ki, plus beams and the like are just condensed Ki... So, would it be possible after further training the ability?
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>>4895608
It’s a good one
>>4895618
You cannot use ki while it’s up. You harden your ki into the barrier, and would have to drop it before using anything with ki.
>>4895621
No, see above
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>>4895631
Makes sense I suppose.
That said, super armor on almost every melee attack makes up for it, especially with our other ring.
Does it give us any penalties on speed and agility?
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>>4895639
>Does it give us any penalties on speed and agility?
Not once you’ve trained, and grown accustomed to it’s resistance. You can’t gravity train for gains in Berserker forms, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t other ways of increasing your power
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>>4895684
Huh. Nice.
Maybe we should teach this to Broly as well. I feel like he'd get a ton of use out of it.
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>>4895601
>The main weakness of it is being unable to use ki attacks while it’s up, but considering you can just super armor and close through most attacks makes that only exploitable against faster opponents.
Those that run away too fast, we can try grabbing with telekinesis, then close in for a brutal melee.
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>>4895601
>Basically the downside of Hamon as a passive is you can give friends/family sun poisoning, depending on your Hamon’s strength.
If Karn had hamon as passive would he be constantly glowing like this?
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>>4895631
>You cannot use ki while it’s up. You harden your ki into the barrier, and would have to drop it before using anything with ki.
Lack of Energy Sword is not a problem here, as this technique turns entire Karn into a huge and alive blunt weapon.
>Not once you’ve trained, and grown accustomed to it’s resistance. You can’t gravity train for gains in Berserker forms, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t other ways of increasing your power
That's awesome. Are you saying that we can just enter Ascended Berserker transformation and then pump so much power into Energy Body that it is actually difficult for Karn to move? This would cause him to get increase in power level kind of like gravity training did back then, though it's not the same.
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I'm guessing that now both Ace and Cell have learned about everything that happened during Chili's wedding, including events in a stopped time.
>What are their thoughts?
>Is Ace conflicted when he hears about his former allies getting destroyed like that?
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Can "Energy Body" block:
> Dabura's spit?
> Boo's "Transfiguration Beam" ("turn into candy or a cookie beam")?
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>>4895703
He’s certainly interested, after the showing you made. He was able to sense how much you were holding back, and weren’t much more than twice his strength. Against you normally his attacks would have at least made you flinch.
>>4896145
True. Or just stand there with your arms crossed and shit talk them, it works more often than you’d think.
>>4896147
The radiance of one’s Hamon is dependent on their power, and control.
>>4896150
True. And if Invincible episode one’s epilogue taught us anything, it’s that blunt force trauma to the head is the single-best way to kill anyone.
>that it is actually difficult for Karn to move?
What is Unmovable Energy Body for 500 Alex?
>>4896152
Not just learned, they got to watch after Towa went back thanks to her scrying orb she’d hidden there conveniently.
Cell: Hate I missed the party
Ace(thoughts): Glad I chose the right side
>>4896157
What you’re asking is can it block magic. And you have no idea IC, haven’t tested it.
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>>4896214
>Ace(thoughts): Glad I chose the right side
Bet the boy is.
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>>4896214
>What is Unmovable Energy Body for 500 Alex?
But it puts user into one position, no change and moving till it is deactivated. Like some unmovable object.

I was imagining Energy Body but taken to such degree that Karn can still move, but each motion is as if he was in a water or even more dense liquid.
>Each move would be a struggle.
>Even a simple push ups would not be that easy with this.
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>>4896214
>Hate I missed the party
Poor Cell. It was one unforgettable party.
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>>4896214
>Not just learned, they got to watch after Towa went back thanks to her scrying orb she’d hidden there conveniently.
That's really nice.
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>>4896214
>He’s certainly interested, after the showing you made.
I knew he would be. He's the defensive specialist of our family now, this technique would mesh with that perfectly.
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>>4896214
I need more Karn hate crimes.
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>>4896433
Its not a hate crime if he loved doing it.
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>>4896469
>You honor my client did not perform a hate crime.
>He smashed that man's jaw on the curb.
>Yes but look how happy he was! He's even smiling.
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>>4896222
He enjoys being on the not-demolished side.
>>4896231
If you can harden it to the point you can’t move, wouldn’t you be able to adjust that later on? Think anon, think!
>>4896233
He won’t miss the next one
>>4896236
Ace was really glad he wasn’t there. And still on the Time Patrol’s side. But he did feel bad for Trunks and the others.
>>4896302
Just for how easily you shrugged off attacks, he knows how valuable that is in a serious fight.
>>4896433
Ha.
>>4896535
In my client’s defense, it was self-defense. That man crashed his son’s wedding, and knocked his grandfather unconscious before my client did more than massage his face
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>>4896681
>If you can harden it to the point you can’t move, wouldn’t you be able to adjust that later on? Think anon, think!
Kinda reminds me of Chilli's magical ice armor from way back.
Ya know, how mobility was a concern, so he tweaked the spell and made certain areas less dense to allow for proper movement.
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>>4896681
>Just for how easily you shrugged off attacks, he knows how valuable that is in a serious fight.
Broly is going to ascend from holding the Wall, to being the Fucking Wall.
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Four posts in, Chaya vs Shellshock is a pretty great fight. But what happens next is even better.
>>4896689
There are similarities
>>4896691
Ha
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Other than a lack of knowledge that could easily be rectified..., what's to stop New Salda from abusing the shit out of her humongous mana generation via the creation of items, soldiers, and spells?
She doesn't have a spark that I know of, but even those without it can do these things if they have access to mana.
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>>4896800
I mean, she can already make golems. We even had a few with us during one of the past sieges.
As for spells, I assume you would have to be her Champion to channel her energy into a magical spell.
Ditto for crafting items imbued with her energy.
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>>4896812
Those golems were pretty good, but admittedly probably a rush job. Who knows what she's got sitting around in her core, waiting for the right people to fuck up and inspire her to bring them out?
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If we go for the Ki Body, we should talk to Chilli, IIRC he made Actual Function Ki Armor YEARS ago with Perfect Cell, so he can probably help us up our control and make the armor sturdier/more efficient.
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>>4896827
We're gonna get Chilli's input on the technique anyways.
We've got to figure out how it holds up to magical attacks and such.
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>>4896822
I wouldn't put it past the avatar of such a bountiful planet to have more up their sleeve.
I wonder if she can make a titan.
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>>4896800
>worst plane
Anyways. She can create golems, as she’d done before. But anything fueled by the planet is limited TO the planet. And everything requires constant upkeep.
>>4896812
>you would have to be her Champion to channel her energy into a magical spell.
Yes. That is the true purpose of the Champion form.
>>4896822
She did show her ultimate technique to you before. The avatar merging with the Champion becomes the strongest being on the planet in almost all cases.
>>4896827
>>4896838
And finally SOMEONE remembered
>>4896846
She does have a limit on how many she can control at once, or how much power can be loaned out at once
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>>4896882
Maybe worst plane, but at least the art can be bitchin. Honestly think most people probably play because "wow card has cool art"
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>>4896890
I mean, not wrong for anything pre-nuInnistrad
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>>4896882
>The avatar merging with the Champion becomes the strongest being on the planet in almost all cases
Oh yeah. How much of a boost is that again?
Assuming it's New Salda and Karn of course, I imagine it varies depending on specific champions and planets.
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>>4896924
From the paste it looks to be a 1.5x multiplier, after transformations.
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>>4896944
That's Champion Form, where Karn draws upon his connect to New Salda to boost his own power.
I'm talking about what she described previously where we'd merge with her temporarily.
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>>4896681
>He enjoys being on the not-demolished side.
Ain't that a big difference between Ace and Goku? I'm sure Goku loves that he is on the side that's having trouble, because that means he gets to face tougher opponents.
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>>4897648
Sounds like Ace understands he actually has a job to do.
Meanwhile Goku is uh...Goku.
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>>4896681
>If you can harden it to the point you can’t move, wouldn’t you be able to adjust that later on? Think anon, think!
That's splendid.
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>>4897648
>>4897653
Is there really any other state of existing for a Goku?
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>>4896214
>they got to watch after Towa went back thanks to her scrying orb she’d hidden there conveniently.
When we visit Towa's new home Karn, Meloka, kids too could watch it as well. See how other fighters were doing while Karn and Mel were focused on their own battles. Maybe they would notice something interesting, like certain fighting styles and everything else related to combat. Learning more about Time Patrol and their tactics. This won't be the last time we face them.
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>>4897653
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>>4896827
>>4896838
Good Idea.
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>>4896924
More than pic related. If you know, you know
>>4897648
Ace enjoys a fight, which is why he and Chaya got along so well initially. But he doesn’t like fighting to the death.
>>4897657
One meme for another. Balanced, as all things should be.
>>4897665
Potentially. However, they can change their style completely between fights, and even unlock new transformations.
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>>4898224
Holy fuckballs, if I remember right, that was part of what pushed Goku to achieve UI-- is there a similar possibility for Karn?
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>>4898224
>However, they can change their style completely between fights
And that is why they fail. They're conflating their lack of commitment and introspection for flexibility.
I imagine a good amount of the Time Patrollers are young, even the elite ones, so they overcompensate by throwing out their style entirely.
Obviously there are times when one's style is fundamentally bad and should be abandoned, but I doubt any of the Time Patrol has stuck to a distinct style long enough to figure that out for themselves.
I know this is gonna be hard for people charitably described as "Goons", but they gotta look at what works for them and cut out what doesn't. It's the constant refinement of one's style backed up by strong fundamentals that leads to true growth.
It actually makes me wonder how Chaya's style is gonna change once she gets beaten...or if she'd even realize why she lost in the first place.
They might have learned this under proper masters instead of random fighters popping in and handing out their signature techniques over a week of training.
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>>4898298
What does Goku absorbing the Spirit Bomb during the fight with Android 13 have to do with him achieving Ultra Instinct?
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>>4898298
Nah.
>>4898224
I know pic related though, it's from super 13, the Android movie. It's one of the coolest moments of goku transforming and was super short but if my memory is serving me right, goku had somehow partially absorbed the energy of a spirit bomb allowing him to decimate Android 13 completely who was previously kicking the collective asses of 3 super saiyans and piccolo
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it's by @jotce_pece
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>>4898298
No, that was the Super Android 13 fight
>>4898314
Yes.
>spoiler
Chaya has two “styles” she can use, Su Ma and her unique “Gladiator” style. Which of them has gotten more use over the past years is very clear.
>>4898328
Yes. That was Goku ONLY getting the equivalent of Champion combined with Super Saiyan, to give some perspective.
>>4898350
It’s nice, and certainly an appropriate one for her
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>>4898319
>>4898328
>>4898375
Right, but in the TOP during this scene, I'm pretty sure that he absorbed the energy in a similar fashion. Maybe I'm misremembering, though.
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>>4898404
I really don't think that happened, nor would it have any real effect on his accidental usage of UI.
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>>4898404
That wasn’t willing or conscious though. And it wasn’t what broke his limits, it just powered his exhausted body for a little longer. Whis explained it that episode
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>>4898415
On the topic of UI, wouldn't having energy left in your body actually make it more difficult to unwittingly tap into Ultra Instinct?
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>>4898404
First time in the movie he did it, he absorbed the Spirit Bomb to get a power up, TOP the damn thing was lit off on his head and THAT was what triggered UI by accident. Two totally different outcomes and events.
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>>4898350
God that is so damn horrifying and cute. Reminds me of when StandoQM was still around with Muscle Fetishist Deku and King Crimson.
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>>4898450
Bruh we have accidentally performed UI at least 4 times so far. Because unlike Goku, we have years of brutal PTSD and killing instinct driving us to rely on it more naturally.
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>>4898464
As I recall, the only times Karn used UI were when he was either injured, exhausted, or otherwise incapable of consciously responding to a threat.
It's definitely easier (and makes much more sense) for Karn to be able to tap into UI than most people based on his experiences, but the fact still remains that he's only ever done so under extraordinary circumstances.
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>>4898468
As it damn well should be. We haven't even started reaching God levels, much less the level Goku was at when he unlocked Ultra Instinct. The fact we've tapped into the barest parts of it multiple times is already bonkers.
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>>4898450
Not necessarily. Energy is irrelevant, but the state of mind. Not thinking is the key
>>4898464
Remember, one of those times was undone, thanks to Fu. But he did explain in-character what you did, at least a little.
>>4898468
Every time it’s when pushed at least very close to Karn’s limit.
>>4898480
Because Karn’s experience is almost completely opposite Goku’s. Goku fights for the thrill of fighting first, Whereas Karn and his Saiyan instincts are far more in-sync. And let’s be fair, Goku lost a lot of urgency and drive after the Freeza arc due to ALWAYS having Dragonballs there.
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>>4898480
It's not bonkers, it's how it should work.
Goku just getting it out of the blue and damn near mastering it instantly is the height of ass-pulls.
I'm not opposed to another transformation, but for God's sake, fucking build up to it.
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>>4898468
No more extraordinary than what Goku does, baring scale of the conflicts.
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I forgot about the existence of UI for a while and now I'm reconsidering my options as far as passive training goes.
A form revolving around automatic dodges makes both foresight and energy body not quite as useful.
Then again, that's a LONG ways off, and we're likely to milk the fuck out of our berserker stuff over any fancy schmancy dodging anyways.
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>>4898505
Tbf, Future Chaya showed us that UI does have weaknesses, and it puts more strain on the body then anything else desu.
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>>4898505
There's at least two flaws to UI as a passive ability.
1. You're limited by what your body can actually do.
2. You're fighting based purely on instinct, not conscious thought.
Anybody who can ascertain either of those gaps can readily take advantage of them.
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Another thing with UI is that combining it with Energy Body would be a fucking insane combination, since anything UI can't dodge still gets tanked by Energy Body.
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>>4898528
I'm not sure it's possible to use most techniques in conjunction with UI unless they're completely ingrained in your body.
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>>4898505
>A form revolving around automatic dodges makes both foresight and energy body not quite as useful.
That’s what I thought at first, but just the fact they we’ll eventually get UI shouldn’t discourage us from attaining other skills. Instead of focusing on the endgame let’s just enjoy the present and plan accordingly.
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>>4898531
That's true. But also, I'd think a Passive ability is a lot more likely to become completely ingrained in our body than Kamehameha was for Goku.
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>>4898539
Indeed.
Also, I think it's completely fair for Goku to do the Kamehameha via muscle memory since it's the only fucking technique he ever uses anymore.
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>>4898539
Tbf goku knew the kameha wave since he was a kid and was a natural with it. I imagine being a grown adult and needing active focus on energy body will make it tough to do and getting it as a effective passive will take a lot of time
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>>4898505
>A form revolving around automatic dodges makes both foresight and energy body not quite as useful.
How is it making Energy Body not quite as useful? Even Ultra Instinct Goku punched really hard in UI, it's not just about dodging.
With Energy Body on UI Karn could punch really hard, but he would be much safer from any nonconventional counterattack. Examples:
>Karn Punches explosive Kamikaze Ghost. It explodes. Karn is shielded by Energy Body. Profit.
>Karn punches opponent that has acidic blood (remember Hive arc). Opponent gets a hole punched in their chest, but Karn's hand is now not coated in acid. Acid is blocked by Enegy Body's Ki barrier. Again very nice.
>Remember when near Covenant's Throne Room Karn charged a door that were covered in acid. It started to melt his hand, but luckily the door killed the Stand user, so melting stopped. If Karn used Energy Body then he would be guarded from it.
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I just had a possibly a really important thought. Baby.
>He may not be able to "infect" and attempt to control Karn while the Energy Body is active.
Perhaps other people using Energy Body may block Baby from "infecting" them too as long as it's active and he has not pierced through it.
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>>4898531
>I'm not sure it's possible to use most techniques in conjunction with UI unless they're completely ingrained in your body.
>unless they're completely ingrained in your body.
>completely ingrained in your body.
Isn't that kind of what the whole making something a passive is about?
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>>4898698
If vegito was able to use a simple barrier to stop buu from integrating him, then maybe energy body could do similar shit.
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>>4898698
Spot on. We’d be practically immune to Baby’s fuckery with Energy Body.
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Isn't Karn already immune to mind control? Like, I love Energy Body, and I really really hope we end up going for it as our passive, but I'm pretty sure Karn already has massive anti-mind control stuff in place that would stop Baby from infecting him.
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>>4899359
Indeed Karn has protections from mind control.
>Without Energy Body active it is possible that Baby would be able to "infect" but not control Karn.
>With Energy Body active Baby would not be able to even "infect" Karn.
At least that's the theory.
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>>4898485
So hey GD. Uh… Super Dragon Ball Heroes may be doing a thing again. Not sure if it’s fake or not but if it’s REAL?

https://twitter.com/AirDokkan/status/1410495275735695365?s=20

So I guess Royal Blue is either Super Saiyan Blue 2 or a false ascension like the Graded Forms of 1
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>>4899500
uuuuuuuuuuuuggghhhhhh can they not just do something cool and original instead of "this is the exact same thing as before, but no it really is exactly the same thing".
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>>4899500
Interesting.
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>>4899511
>>4899512
Also turns out they already did SS2R in May, we just missed it somehow.

https://twitter.com/DBSChronicles/status/1391947072593485828?s=20

Also apparently Cumber’s whole thing about being an ‘Evil Saiyan’? Turns out it isn’t actually just a fancy title. It’s a transformation in its own right.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TUbwpbyS7Bk

Turles did it and since Cumber exists we know it can be combined with the Super Saiyan forms for extra power.

Dragon Ball Heroes was already official fanfics but this is getting even more ridiculous
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>>4899500
>>4899554
It’s interesting to see that Rosé can be pushed into SS2 and 3, I assume that means the same can be done for Blue as well.
>Turns out it isn’t actually just a fancy title. It’s a transformation in its own right.
Always thought he was called that because of his Dark Ki, never would’ve guessed it was a transformation too.
>Dragon Ball Heroes was already official fanfics but this is getting even more ridiculous
I love forgetting about Heroes for a while and then popping back into it and being utterly dumbfounded by it. I hope they keep getting weirder with it.
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>>4899554
Thanks for posting this. I need to check what Heroes have been up to lately.
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>>4899585
>>Turns out it isn’t actually just a fancy title. It’s a transformation in its own right.
>Always thought he was called that because of his Dark Ki, never would’ve guessed it was a transformation too.

Also it’s apparently infectious, since Turles tried to corrupt Vegeta using that dark ki, but he managed to control it and combine it Super Saiyan Blue
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>>4899554
What's next? Super Saiyan Fire? Super Saiyan Sword and Shield? Fucking dumb.
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>>4899603
>Also it’s apparently infectious, since Turles tried to corrupt Vegeta using that dark ki
Didn’t Cumber do that to Goku in their first fight? It’s been a while so my memory might be mixed up.
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>>4899619
You’re right. Cumber did do that to Goku. It happened a second time when Fu injected Goku and Vegeta with Cumber’s energy as part of an experiment.

Maybe that’s what happened to Turles? Cumber tried corrupting Turles but because Turles was already a huge asshole that just led to him becoming an Evil Saiyan on his own?
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>>4898505
Would Karn even go for sustained UI?
>>4898508
If you’re using the limit-shattering form of UI.
>>4898518
As has been proven, especially with the last chapter
>>4898528
>anything
Remember, Energy Body is for physical attacks.
>>4898698
Quite possibly. After all, if he can’t physically get in your body, he can’t possess you.
>>4898702
>Isn't that kind of what the whole making something a passive is about?
Yes, making the technique an unconscious effort
>>4899359
Yes, to direct mind control. But not body possession, suggestion, telekinesis, illusions, or anything else like that that you’re aware of.
>>4899500
After “Super Full Power Saiyan 4 Limit Breaker”, nothing was off the table.
>>4899511
>original
>fanfiction
C’mon, this is the internet anon.
>>4899554
>we
I stay up to date on the goings on in the fandom as possible. Looking for interesting additions mostly.
>>4899597
Always a wild ride.
>>4899609
>Super Saiyans White and Bla-
SDBHeroes has been canceled, and the producers are deeply sorry for their insensitive comments and remarks to the community.
That was satire, for anyone who didn’t realize
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>>4899699
>That was satire, for anyone who didn’t realize
Dunno what ya gone an' said what made yer wheel coverin's upset but them'sis some sad tires there yep.
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Also epilogue hopefully out soon, on the(hopefully) final post now!
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>>4899742
Hyped
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-Saiyan Conqueror Quest 158 Epilogue-

AGE 749, DREADZONE ARENA

“Okay. That one really hurt.” you say to yourself, laying flat on your back on the arena floor. You’d been ‘fighting’ against the Mad Swordsman, defeated him without breaking a sweat, only for your REAL opponent to be revealed as Shellshock! Given a complete upgrade overhaul, and one of the Covenant warship’s glassing cannons as it’s hand cannon, Shellshock has already proven to be the toughest opponent you’ve faced in the ring in awhile. And that’s getting you fired up!

“This is over!!” Shellshock shouts, you hearing his weapon click the instant before it fires.
“Go!” you shout, summoning forth the spirit of the Pursuer. The phantom appears between you and Shellshock, it’s shield tanking the blasts of the former exterminator’s now quad-barreled glassing cannon. Everything beyond the Pursuer turns red, it’s shield deflecting the energy out around it. Behind the safety of your spectral ally you flip back up to your feet, and take stock of the damage. The first shot from his single-barreled version had destroyed your armor, but not really hit you. The same can’t be said this time, as your entire body from hips up is burnt and raw. Another hit like that would probably take you out of this fight. And there’s no way in hell you’d let that happen, this fight’s just getting interesting!

“You can’t hide from me forever!” Shellshock calls, and from his triple-tubed missile launchers built into his chest/shoulders begins firing a swarm of rockets into the air as his cannon’s blasts end. Flipping your sword around you hold it like your dad firing one of his javelins, readying a throw.
“NOW!” you shout, the Pursuer phantom vanishing as you throw the blade. Clearly Shellshock knew you were up to something, and tried to leap aside. But he was too slow, your sword sailing forth and stabbing deep into his left missile silos.
“Gaaauuuhh!” he cries out, left arm going completely limp as several explosions detonate in his shoulder. Looks like your magical blade hit the rockets, and detonated them a bit too early for his liking.

“Got you now!” you roar, blitzing forward through the missile storm dropping down and race for the giant machine. While rushing forward you fire a large ball of ki skyward, and before he can bring his now-unwieldy weapon to bare you’ve closed the distance and fire off a powerful Ki Punch right in his mug. Your attack detonates, dislocating the machine man’s jaw and knocking him staggering. While he’s off balance you move, rushing in and grabbing your weapon’s handle. But you don’t just pull it free. The way your sword pierced, the edge is pointing down at Shellshock’s opposite hip. Which is too good an opportunity to pass up.
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>>4899765
“HRRRAAAAAAA!!” you roar, going Ultra in a flash as you grab onto the handle and begin cutting. You use your full power, heaving the magical blade down through Shellshock’s chest towards his opposite hip.
“NNNAAAUUUUUGHH!!” he roars, sparks flying as metal shears through metal. And with a titanic heave you’ve done it, your blade cutting through his chest! But something’s wrong, he doesn’t immediately begin splitting into two halves. Your weapon wasn’t long enough to cut all the way through the giant robot! “HAAAAAA!!”

“Shi-!” you shout, the extended barrel of his weapon smashing ypu square on the whole left side your face. You hear something shatter and break as you’re once again sent flying, dropping your sword in the progress. You crash to the ground, rolling over backwards two or three times before your hands find purchase. Your fingers dig through the arena ground, carving ten parallel trenches until you slide to a stop. Your left eye suddenly shuts, as blood runs from your head down into your eye. Dammit, forehead cuts bleed annoyingly and don’t stop for quite some time. You push yourself upright, staggering a bit as your legs feel a bit wobbly. “Bastard!”

“You cannot beat me.” Shellshock says, leveling the now one-handed weapon at you. “This fight is over. Any last words?”
“Just two.” you say, raising a hand and smirking at him as you close your fist. “SKY CANNON!!”
“Wai-!” he says, immediately realizing the danger he’s in. But before he can even say it, your Sky Cannon you’d unleashed earlier when rushing in fires it’s attack. Your massive beam smashes down on atop his head, Shellshock’s body resisting the blast for a few seconds. But the devastating slash earlier left his torso weakened, you hearing a loud crunch. His upper body collapses down onto his lower body, crushing him down onto the ground under your beam. Your attack throws his aim off, firing his beam well wide of you and into the energy barrier shielding the audience. After another few seconds your Sky Cannon runs out of power, beam ending and revealing Shellshock. Or rather, what’s left of him.

“Haaaaaa.” you wheeze, again reverting back down out of your Ultra form as you walk over to Shellshock. He tries to lift his weapon, but the damage he took is too severe. His arm sparks as it lifts an inch or two, when something internal thumps and his arm drops back down. “You sure got a lot tougher.”
“Haaahaaa, and so have you.” Shellshock replies, leaking some sort of dark fluid underneath him as his injuries spark. “But it wasn’t enough, this time.”
“Wait, this time?” you ask, Shellshock smirking and dropping his giant cigar. It drops from his mouth, striking the fluid beneath him, and it suddenly bursts into flames! “Woah!”
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>>4899780
“And that is it folks, Chaya has won her exhibition against returning legend Shellshock!!” Dallas shouts, crowd roaring in applause. You raise your right fist high, audience cheering even louder as you sigh out, reverting back down to your base form. Their platform again flies down towards you, Dallas holding out a mic. as Juanita asks. “So Chaya, what do you think of the new and improved Shellshock?”
“He was a great man, and those upgrades made him a real threat.” you say, trying to wipe some of the blood out of your left eye. “But it’s a real shame he’s gone now. I would have wanted to fight him again.”

“Well then I have good news for you!!” Dallas shouts excitedly, gesturing behind you. You turn, and look up as you hear the sound of thrusters. And to your shock, two MORE Shellshocks are dropping down out of the sky! “Vox Industries made more than one!”
“Waaaahaaaaahaaaaahaaaahaaa!!” they laugh in sync, to the cheering of the crowd. The two of them both ham it up, throwing their arms up in the air and “NYAAAAUUUUGH” ing it up. Despite your injuries you feel a weight lifting off your chest, knowing you hadn’t just killed your friend. One walks over to you as the other keeps hyping the crowd, holding a hand down to you. “An excellent fight! You got me fair and square with that Sky Cannon! When did you have time to throw it?”

“When I was darting through your missiles.” you answer happily with a chuckle, wincing at the sudden pain in your chest. “They gave me more than enough cover to hide it as I rushed through.”
“Waaahaaaa, of course! I should have seen that coming!” the big robot laughs, despite another version of it having just been slaughtered. “You never cease to impress! And that is why you’re still the Champion!”

-Meanwhile, in Gleeman Vox’s office-

“Well well, looks like all those upgrades were worth it after all.” you hear Vox say, while you’re sitting there with a hand to your chin. “If we’d sent two of them after her, they would have won!”
“Not likely.” you reply, seeing her and one of the bots talking while the other keeps hyping the crowd. “She would have defeated two much faster.”
“What?” Vox asks you, confused. “What are you talking about, Tanya?”

You are Tanya Degurechaff, Top Exterminator, Commander General of the Dreadzone Armed Forces, and currently aiming at taking the number one spot in Dreadzone. You watched Chaya’s battle with Vox from his vantage position in his office, and currently finding yourself frustrated. You’d hoped a Shellshock, armed with the knowledge of all her techniques, upgraded hardware and software, and equipped with the best weapons Dreadzone can currently produce would have forced the Saiyan to go all out. Yet you don’t believe she did.
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>>4899785
“Do you really think that wasn’t her at one hundred percent power?” he continues. “Just look at the damage she took!”
“She was holding back.” you say, more certain than ever. “She thought there was only one Shellshock, and that if she destroyed him too badly, he’d be gone. Sentimental child.”
“You’re saying that, because she has some emotional bond to that lumbering hunk of bolts, that she held back?” Vox asks, incredulous.
“Exactly.” you reply. “Had she known, she would have perhaps not held back as much. But at least the weapon upgrade is much more powerful. Speaking of-“
“It’s not ready yet.” he answers impatiently, clearly annoyed at you asking again. “At least another month, more likely two.”

“The longer it takes to finish, the stronger she-!” you start, immediately shutting up as you hear the door beginning to open behind you. Turning around, you see Visha walking in, escorting the very burnt, bloody, but still standing tall Saiyan Chaya. So you decide to tease her, just a little. Don’t want to act too nice and give away the game. “Well, there’s the champ. Get tired of the spotlight already?”
“Ha! As if.” she replies, then turns her head a bit to the side while looking at you. Suddenly you get a very bad feeling, does she know? Can get freaky alien senses pick up what you’re doing? “Hey, are those new boots?”
“Huh?” you ask her, completely sidelined by the question. It catches you so off guard you look down, and see the upgraded maneuvering gear boots you’d gotten as part of the Networked Type 101 system that mad bastard created. But you don’t need to tell her all that. “Oh yeah, needed something a little sturdier than my old leather ones. These should do the trick, do you like them?”

“They look pretty cool, not my style though.” she says after a moment’s thought, then turns her focus from you and walks up to Vox’s desk, planting her bloody hands on it. “Hey. Right before Shellshock showed up, Dad gave me a great idea! Instead of fighting all the other weak guys here, we should take a few more cameras to the arena back home so I can fight there!”
“What?” you ask, suddenly worried about your future prospects. Her being idle and lazy about her training and in the ring is partly what gives you your biggest edge against her. Should she become more like her father you’d never stand a chance no matter how much you close the power gap. “You-“
“I think that would be a wonderful idea!” Vox says, your jaw dropping as you turn to him, shocked. “I’ll have the production team get right on doing up some promos, should have everything ready to go in a week or so.”
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>>4899794
“Ehhh!?” you ask, turning to Vox. He’s okay with this? You thought he was on your side!
“This is gonna be great!” she says, then furrows her brows. Clearly speaking telepathically with someone, she’s never had much of a poker face. “Oh, hey I gotta head home. Apparently Dad’s showing off a new technique, and he an’ Momma are really going at it!”
“Don’t forget to get yourself patched up.” Vox says, waving as she rushes out of the room. Once the doors hiss shut you whirl on him, seeing Vox as relaxed as ever.

“What the hell?” you say, temper flaring a bit. “What makes you think this is in any way a good idea?”
“Sit down Tanya, you’re letting your worries get to you.” Vox says, gesturing towards your seat. You glare at him for several seconds before sitting back down, fuming. He steeples his hands on his desk, flesh and metal meeting as he peers at you over them. “First, do you really think you could tell her no? She’s had some crazy ideas, a few of which have cost me quite a fortune for minimal returns. And no matter what either of us said, she was still going to do it.”

“Tssk!” you hiss through your teeth, but can’t deny he’s right. No matter how much it frustrates you.
“Plus, you’re forgetting something very important.” Vox says, your ears perking up at the tone in his voice. “Chaya is special. Even amongst her own kind, almost no one outside of that genetic freak Karn’s family is anywhere close to her power. So she’ll fight more of her own kind, battling them at a level of competition higher than here. Then when she comes back, she’ll underestimate what’s awaiting here even more.”

“And that’s when I strike.” you reply, smirking. This fishy bastard may be a snake, but as a fellow self-serving free-market guy at heart, you can respect that about him.
“Also, I’m not sure how aware you are.” Vox says, looking to you seriously. “But you’ve been letting your emotions get the better of you recently. Is everything okay?”
“I’m fine.” you retort automatically, the venom in your voice causing you to immediately shut up as well and look down at your hands. The hell is wrong with you? Sure you’ve had a stabbing pain in your gut the past few days, probably from something you ate, but you’ve been injured plenty of times and not lost your cool like this before.
“I don’t know what your problem is, but you need to get yourself sorted out before it’s time for you and her to fight again.” Vox says, suddenly sniffing at the air with a confused expression. “We’re you injured recently?”
“No?” you ask, feeling a bit confused. “Chaya was just bleeding all over your carpet a minute ago, maybe it’s that?”
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>>4899800
“No, your blood smells different than hers.” he says, you suppressing a shiver at this. Regardless of his appearance, the man’s still a shark, and a dangerous predator. And right now is smelling weakness on you. “Either way, go sort yourself out. You’ll have to be in peak physical and mental shape to challenge her.”
“Yes sir.” you rise, snapping a salute before turning and walking from the room. As you head to the elevator you feel another pang in your lower guts, almost like you have a damn parasite in there trying to get oit. But you push through the pain, showing no weakness while in the view of any Vox cameras. This is a lion’s den, and showing weakness will get you devoured.

“Ah, Ma-General!” Viktoriya “Visha” Serebryakov says, snapping to attention before you. “We have communications from our old teammates, they just landed back home safely!”
“Excellent.” you reply, walking into the elevator with her. The doors shut, leaving the two of you in relative solitude. But you know better, there’s at least two cameras on you still. Better watch what you say. “We need to head to my quarters immediately, there’s something we need to discuss.”
“O-Of course.” she replies, a bit confused but she’s willing to follow you into hell itself. So a private conversation isn’t a big ask. “Is something wrong?”
“Not here.” you reply through gritted teeth, feeling another stab in the guts. You maintain your posture, suppressing the wince as best you can as the doors open. From here it’s a quick flight to your private quarters inside the air-filled dome, you sealing and locking the door behind you with a pressurized hiss. As it does you clutch your guts and sink to the ground, as the worst pain yet comes. “GHHHH!!”

“TANYA!!” she shouts, Visha rushing to you. “Wh-Wh-What’s happening? Are you okay? Were you hurt?!”
“S-Stomach.” you reply, curling up into a ball. Were it anyone else you wouldn’t dare show such weakness, but you can trust her. “It hurts. Worse that anything I’ve ever felt before.”
“Let me see.” she says, going into battlefield clinician mode as she quickly takes off your coat, and after putting it under your head as a pillow begins quickly exposing you. Fortunately there are no cameras inside your room, as you’ve made sure of that with a jammer. Unlike the Saiyans, you actually DON’T want your exposed body shown to the universe. And as you feel Visha taking off your undergarments, you realize that you feel something wet on your legs. Did the pain make you lose control of yourself so embarrassingly? “Oh, General. You’re okay!”
“What?” you ask her, shocked by the 180 in her attitude and tone. “The hell’re you talking about?”
“You’ve finally becoming a grown-up woman!” she replies with a sickeningly-sweet smile. “You just got your first period.”

You blame Being X for this.

-Saiyan Conqueror Quest 158 Epilogue End-
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>>4899805
Welp, RIP to Tanya's chances.
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>>4899805
o o o o o o o f
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>>4899814
>>4899817
You’d think the knowledge from his previous life would have prepared him for the eventuality. Imagine going through the wild emotions of puberty again.
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>>4899699
>After “Super Full Power Saiyan 4 Limit Breaker”, nothing was off the table.

>I stay up to date on the goings on in the fandom as possible. Looking for interesting additions mostly.

I now find myself wondering if Evil Saiyans will show up at some point. At the very least I'd like to see Karn vs Cumber.

Also maybe our Turles can get this form so he can stop being a jobber since it can be combined with the various flavors of Super Saiyan?
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>>4899890
Turles is our Yamcha. He has to be a jobber.
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>>4899890
Probably not in your timeline. They died out with Planet Sadala.
Potentially
>>4899922
Not necessarily. He’s far more powerful than many
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>>4899934
>Probably not in your timeline. They died out with Planet Sadala.
>Potentially

So is it a genetic thing or a mystical thing? Or some combination of the two?
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>>4899970
You’ll have to wait and see. But dive into Saiyan lore about the war that destroyed their homeworld for some clues
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>>4900041
So in other words ask Vegeta since he went lore diving years ago anyway for how to become a Super Saiyan God?
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>>4900065
Bingo. Anon remembers how their current planet got it’s name
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>>4900041
I see you’re incorporating the Good and Evil Saiyan lore. This stuff has a lot of interesting implications, also apparently Turles attained Evil Aura by eating enough Fruit from the Tree of Might. I’m looking forward to seeing what you cook up with this lore.
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>>4900094
Is there a reason it's New "Salda" and not New "Sadala"?
I forget whether or not it was just a typo everybody ignored.
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>>4900094
>>4900096

The only problem is that Karn has no idea Evil Saiyans exist. So he won't realistically know he should ask about it until he counters Cumber or an enemy version of Turles. Which could take a while since Mechikabura runs a tighter ship than Dumplin and would keep a leash on any Towas who might be inclined to start shit with us.

Fu might do it though out of curiosity. Hell, he's basically already doing shit like that in SDBH.
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>>4900101
We may as well just ask about Saiyan history.
The topic has a high chance of coming up in the near future anyways since we're gonna be talking with Vegeta and Tatsu about the different generations of Saiyans.
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>>4900101
We could just ask Vegeta about our history and maybe he’ll mention Evil Saiyans, they seem like an important enough topic to have been recorded since modern Saiyans are descended from them.
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>>4900101
Hell, I thought we were the evil saiyans.
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>>4900322
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If Tanya ever finds out about Kazuma and his deal she's going to be extremely angry. Bets on how many seconds he survives?
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Less than 24 hours before episode 159 begins!
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>>4900096
You’re misrepresenting how Turles got it. What is the fruit of that tree? What is it made of?
>>4900098
Because Vegeta named it that way.
>>4900101
Very true. But does he control every Towa?
>Fu might do it though out of curiosity.
Also true. Man’s the type to smoke at a gas station with the pumps running just to see what’ll happen
>>4900469
Which deal?
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>>4900687
How he at least had the option to say no, and the gods are at least nominally trying to help instead of being massive dicks trying to punish him. Plus he at least still gets to be male and doesn't have to deal with the unfortunate realities of being female when he's experienced the other side. All she wants is to kill X and be left alone.
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>>4900687
>What is the fruit of that tree?
A power boosting fruit that only the Gods are permitted to eat?
>What is it made of?
The energy and life force of a planet?
I’m just going by what Turles himself had to say about it, GD. Which he didn’t give any clearer reason as to how he attained Evil Aura other than: “muh fruit made me evil stronk”.
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>>4900822
After doing some precursory research on the Tree of Might, I found some interesting tidbits.
>it's not considered an evil entity by itself, though it's certainly divine in nature
>isn't actually designed to destroy its host planet, implying this doesn't occur to stronger planets
>the extract from its fruits can apparently revive even fossilized organisms
>Eternal Dragons are meant to eat the fruit as well, not just Kaioshin
Make of those facts what you will.

As for how Turles could have gained "Evil" power from eating the fruits, I do have one idea.
It could be he was eating fruits from trees grown in the Demon Realm, infusing them with demonic energy, similar to his Xenoverse 2 counterpart.
Demonic Ki seems to react to Saiyan physiology in weird ways, so it's not a huge leap in logic to assume it might cause that kind of change.

Now I know what you may be asking,
>"But wouldn't that immediately cause him to use the Supervillain transformation like it did in Xenoverse 2?"
Not necessarily, since Towa directly states that she tampered with the already grown fruit to induce the transformation.
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>>4900861
>I do have one idea.
It could be he was eating fruits from trees grown in the Demon Realm, infusing them with demonic energy
That’s what I was figuring could be the reason. I’ll have to give the DBH manga a read to see if it makes anything clearer.
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>>4891098
>But then again, he already has a FULL DAY of Za Warudo’s stopped time, so what’s a little more deadly?
I just had a thought that it's indeed very powerful till you bet everything on a Time Stop and encounter somebody immune to it. Even Supreme Kai of Time got herself erased because she did not expect Karn to be able to move.

Anyway time to read the latest epilogue.
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>>4899805
Interesting epilogue. I can't wait to see if those schemes, plans and new inventions will make Tanya defeat Chaya.
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>>4899934
>Probably not in your timeline. They died out with Planet Sadala.
What if some of them, you know, left in a small group and started over in some forgotten part of the universe? Maybe there is a planet populated by their descendants. Bloodline of the evil Saiyans is not extinct, but the contact with them had been lost. Maybe PTO or somebody will encounter them. Or maybe not, who knows?
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>>4900041
>You’ll have to wait and see. But dive into Saiyan lore about the war that destroyed their homeworld for some clues
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>>4899805
>Tanya is having the first period of his life.
HA!
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>>4899838
Nothing can prepare for natural hormone fuckery.
>>4899922
Hey, we are training this jobber so his wife doesn't beat him. He'd still job to us, but not that bitch.
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>>4900101
Bardock and his family ate Tree of Might fruits. Could they become Evil?
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>>4900687
>Also true. Man’s the type to smoke at a gas station with the pumps running just to see what’ll happen
You saying that brings me a memory of a video of this chick, that a few months ago, was washing her damn car with the fuel at a GAS PUMP!
>>4900822
Our Turles never ate the fruits dude.
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>>4901044
>Our Turles never ate the fruits dude.
He was referring to canon Turles and his statements made during The Tree of Might film and Super Dragon Ball Heroes.
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>>4901044
I’m talking about Heroes Turles
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>>4900763
Tanya would sympathize a bit, in that he was a clueless child manipulated by the so-called gods. But would have no mercy for Aqua
>>4900822
Yes but look how he used it. He was constantly drinking in the life forces of others. So much so that a low level Saiyan was able to take down Freeza-era equivalent Goku with Kaio-Ken x20 easily.
>>4900861
>>isn't actually designed to destroy its host planet
Which was only added to the lore after revealing it was food of the gods. Wonder why that particular tidbit was added...?
>from trees grown in the Demon Realm, infusing them with demonic energy
Not necessarily, unless further clarification is given. What is made crystal clear(Chilli “Heh”s in the distance) with the revelation of the tree’s nature however is that the Kais feast on the collective and collected energy of mortals. Something beings like Kars is well adjusted to doing. And notice the only time the Grand Priest shielded the Zenos in the ToP was when Goku tossed the Spirit Bomb. Collective energy from mortals. There’s clearly more here.
>>4900922
True. But remember, this isn’t an overly-arrogant god who believes themself untouchable. Kars was humbled after losing to Joseph and plays a much safer game, as we saw after his “defeat” by Jotaro. He took a universally-witnessed L just to get away with his newly-copied power to further study it. He doesn’t let pride blind him to the possibilities.
Have fun.
>>4900971
Glad you enjoyed. It’s going to be a fun showdown, have a fantastic piece in the works from one of my amazingly-talented artists for it. Speaking of, for those who wish to financially contribute, consider commissioning art for the quest. More art is always appreciated, and my dm’s are still open for any questions about that.
>>4900984
That was the ones who escaped to Planet Vegeta, the only known survivors of the conflict.
>>4900987
Have fun deep diving anon.
>>4901031
Insert “That’s rough buddy” here.
>>4901038
Right? Hormones can turn even the most controlled person crazy.
>>4901040
Potentially. I’m not saying it’s not an option.
>>4901044
People are morons. You know you’re not in a high-class neighborhood when the clearly-pregnant woman is filling her camry, kids fighting in the backseat while she’s smoking at the pump. Honestly surprised I didn’t get blown up that day.
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>>4901059
Okay, when you said that I thought you were talking about Our Turles. It was worded very poorly.
>>4901046
Noted.
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>>4901074
>People are morons. You know you’re not in a high-class neighborhood when the clearly-pregnant woman is filling her camry, kids fighting in the backseat while she’s smoking at the pump. Honestly surprised I didn’t get blown up that day.
GD, GD, GD, don't you know? Neighborhoods with women like that ARE highclass because thy can afford to be mouth breathing retards.
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>>4901075
>It was worded very poorly.
I figured it didn’t need specification since the conversation until then had revolved around SDBH Turles. I’ll take this into consideration upon further inquiry.
>>4901074
>consider commissioning art for the quest.
Once this arc is over i think I’ll commission a piece of the entire Karn Clan.
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>>4901074
>Which was only added to the lore after revealing it was food of the gods. Wonder why that particular tidbit was added...?
They're the Kai's Jews, and have to make them not look like irredeemable monsters, and no one can convince me otherwise that that tidbit of knowledge was made specifically to be said to Goku when he found out.
>What is made crystal clear(Chilli “Heh”s in the distance) with the revelation of the tree’s nature however is that the Kais feast on the collective and collected energy of mortals.
Be edgy all you want son, you will always be a lovable dork deep down. And on your sleeves. And your hat.
>And notice the only time the Grand Priest shielded the Zenos in the ToP was when Goku tossed the Spirit Bomb. Collective energy from mortals.
I always think of it as Humanity fulled the soul arts, which makes it bright blue. But it's just the essence of Mortals which makes the effect happen in the first place. So alot of it will naturally fuck up gods unless processed by their planet eating parasite plants.
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>>4901074
>with the revelation of the tree’s nature however is that the Kais feast on the collective and collected energy of mortals.
Starting to get some real Monitor vibes from the Kai’s now.
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>>4901080
Believe it or not, women will find ways to be particularly ignorant of the world around them regardless of social or financial standing.
>>4901074
>the Kais feast on the collective and collected energy of mortals
>the only time the Grand Priest shielded the Zenos in the ToP was when Goku tossed the Spirit Bomb
So clearly, collective mortal energy has a lot to do with Divine beings.
I feel like it's no coincidence either that the Super Saiyan God Ritual also involves the collective energy of mortals.
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>>4901101
The smug superiority when reality bites them in the ass is always satisfying.
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>>4901080
No. They can only afford it by their govt checks.
>>4901088
Oh nice. Give it a bit, as I’ve got a few different pieces in the works and that may or may not be one of them. Also current Ginyu Force appearances art in the works
>>4901092
Hah.
True.
Not gonna comment on that, as no one you know uses the art of soul sorcery.
>>4901097
They seem more and more like parasites, don’t they?
>>4901101
Yes. That’s very specific. Just like Theros/Nyx, where the gods only exist due to the devotion of the mortals.
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>>4901159
>Just like Theros/Nyx, where the gods only exist due to the devotion of the mortals.
Or Anor Londo, where the gods derive the majority of their power from the collective worship of mortals.
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>>4901159
>No. They can only afford it by their govt checks.
Cruel way to call their ex-husbands, but sadly accurate.
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>>4901159
Before I forget,
soon.
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>>4901164
No, they were a little different. Their power came from the first flame, and as it waned they all sought out different methods of maintaining their dominance.
>>4901180
Oof.wav
>>4901320
Yes
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>>4901350
>Oof.wav
I ain't wrong
>No, they were a little different. Their power came from the first flame, and as it waned they all sought out different methods of maintaining their dominance.
Parasites.
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>>4901350
>and as it waned they all sought out different methods of maintaining their dominance.
Except for Nito. Dude was just chilling with his skeletons until the player broke into his home.
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>>4901556
With all his skelly babies and his necromancer harem.
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>>4901074
Considering how utterly ancient Kars is, does he even recall the Force being a thing, or is it new to him?
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>>4901569
Were there any Force users near him?
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>>4901716
Noice
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>>4901733
Thanks.

I remember that when younger Vegeta saw Future Chaya for the first time she made big impression on him. There was even one epilogue where Chaya was a queen and Vegeta king. Chaya is teenager now, so did he notice her again?
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>>4901850
Unlikely, he's got assassin wife to be.
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>>4901852
Ok.
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>>4901852
He could always go the Karn route and pick up two wife.
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>>4901874
She basically confessed to Raditz on live tv. It isn't happening.
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>>4901481
Yes
>>4901556
True. Why is it that in every pantheon, the god of death always the ONLY ONE who follows the rules?
>>4901569
If it existed on his planet, perhaps. If it impressed him.
>>4901716
HA
>>4901850
He still treats your kids like younger siblings. Also not like that, before anyone makes the joke
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>>4901891
>He still treats your kids like younger siblings. Also not like that, before anyone makes the joke
You know 4chan so well.
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>>4901891
Because he's tired of people trying to wheedle their way out, or argue, or beg, or cry, or cheat. He just wants you to get in the fucking bag.
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>>4901894
I’ve been on the internet long enough to know.
>>4901926
Clickity-Classic
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>>4901977
Fair point. Also checked.
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SOON.
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It’s time! >>4902025



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