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The Grail War continues, but you're trying to forget about it for now, as you host a feast, which has turned into an arm wrestling tournament.

You are Shinji Makiri, Ten years ago you suddenly found yourself with the memories of a complete past life that saw this world as a fictional story due to some unprecedented form of inter-dimensional transportation. Since that day, your new composite being has been working to change the grim future laid out for you.

To that end, you have done much, involving yourself with events and situations that have shifted the future away from the one that you once would have faced and instead onto one of uncertainty and chaos.

The Fifth Holy Grail War lies ahead of you, and the challenge and danger it represents to you, the people you care for and the world itself is far greater than you could have ever predicted. Though the grail might be corrupted and the war itself might be a sham, the stakes couldn't be higher.

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You have some time before the next rounds start, and you shouldn't be first anyway, so with that in mind, you bid a quick farewell to Medusa and head towards Medea again, as you do, you can see the outside. A foggy night, you don't recall the weather forecast very well, but... you thought it was supposed to be clear. Ah well, it's not like the weather forecasting abilities of 2004 are truly accurate. You stare out into the foggy night for a while, thinking of just how far you've come since you arrived in this world. You've managed to capture the hearts of perhaps too many girls. You've saved almost everyone you've come across who deserved it, you've become one of the most powerful people in the world thanks to your magic. You've had a daughter, even if your first biological child was born through magical means, it is still your blood that runs through her veins, and it is countably your magic that she can wield. Alítheia for that reason is likely your perfect successor... if you were a true magus, and actually needed such a thing. Alítheia's nearly unlimited reserves of magical energy will make her a truly terrifying opponent when she grows up a little and learns how to properly wield that element she has. While you doubt she'll ever be able to wield it as well as you do without being informed of the Truth of the world, she should still be tremendously powerful in her own right. Even as a newborn, she was potentially capable of wiping out the entire group that was originally sent to subjugate her. Including even Arcueid. Of course, that was before you realized that Alítheia wasn't simply a rampaging monster, and had a will and mind of her own. True intelligence and the ability to recognize her parents... You do feel bad about how she was brought into the word, and that guilt makes you want to make things up to her at all times. While she seems to have forgiven you for it, you still don't know if you've forgiven yourself for having one of her wings cut off... even if you healed it later.

You sigh as you move away from the window and head towards Medea, who happily greets you with a strained smile as you approach, what she's not expecting however is for you to suddenly snake an arm around her waist and kiss her deeply on the lips, sweeping her almost off of her feet with the romantic gesture. You only hugged her and told you that you loved her earlier, and that... that just isn't fair treatment considering that you've been kissing everyone else without restraint. You even kissed Vritra twice!
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You keep kissing Medea, and you can feel her sapping some of your magical energy. You don't know if it's a matter of Servants not draining your magical energy as much as they used to for some reason, possibly their own restraint, or if your newly blessed perfect circuits give you a greater capacity to withstand it, but you no longer feel nearly as much of a draw on your magical energy when you kiss a Servant. This is a good thing, of course. If you had almost all of your magical energy greedily devoured whenever you tried to kiss a Servant, then a relationship with so many Servants or beings on their level would simply not work at all, you'd pass out from only a few minutes in bed, if that! Thank God that small problem has been seemingly rectified... perhaps maybe literally, actually...

Eventually, you break away from the kiss, with Medea raising her hand to cup the side of your face when you do. As she does, you flick a stray hair that had come loose and was dangling in front of her face to the side, and smile at her. "I was going to save this for tonight, but... I couldn't resist treating you in the way you deserve, Medea." You give the woman a confident smile, and she almost blushes, almost. It takes more than just that to get Medea of Colchis to blush, it seems. Unlike Vritra and Medusa, who both talk big games, Medea is very much able to keep a lid on her true emotions.

"Well, I'm certainly looking forward to it..." Medea purrs in response as you help her back to her feet properly, the romantic kiss you shared with her being a memory that you doubt you'll be forgetting any time soon. "But, you're here to talk about my reinforcement again, I take it? We don't have much time, so just hold on..." As Medea says that, she starts to inspect your body, casting small spells here and there to improve your power. Of course, while they might seem like small spells, you're not so much of a fool to truly believe that. Each of the enchantments she's weaving upon your body are of great enough strength that a magus would probably lose a limb just to get the secrets of a single one of them.

It doesn't take long until you're fully reinforced by Medea, and the woman takes a step back as if to admire her work, as if she were a sculptor looking upon her master piece with a satisfied expression. "Thanks, Medea, I feel... pretty incredible right now, actually!" But that's not all, if you combine this with Vritra's strengthening and Tamamo's gloves, you feel like you might even be able to have a chance at winning the whole tournament! Well, if you're lucky, at least. You don't know if pure strength will be able to do the trick. Your attention is stolen for another moment by the building fog outside. It's... really too foggy, actually. Why is one of the windows open, anyway?

>Ignore it and go see Tamamo about the gloves.
>Close the window.
>Write-in...
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>>4867778
>she's not expecting however is for you to suddenly snake an arm around her waist
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>>4867777
Blessed thread
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>>4867781
>Check that everyone is accounted for
>Check with Enkidu (they've got best detection here right?)
>Be ready to bring all shields back up
Who uses fog again, Monica?
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>>4867788
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>>4867789
Do we need to order Chiyome to unbuzz herself or will she have done it by herself by now?
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>>4867794
She is probably still drunk. But she will tell right away if poison is involved.
But It could also be Jack or some original Servant Manaka got to crush the party for not being invited.
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>>4867781
>activate Sanctuary immediately
>sing out through tamamaphone + mental connection broadcast to your own servants there may be an intruder, mention fog gathering outside and an opened window.
>Chiyome, purify yourself and have your eyes peeled for an assassin.
>Have those with sensory abilities use them now
>have vulnerable members rounded up with protection

The only reason they were sent directly to us is because Manaka is confident in them causing harm or disruption despite the amount of servants around.

I'd assume it'd be Jack due to the fog. Window is already open, they're inside and if Clae didn't notice anything, their PC is A++ or higher. Assuming it's jack, women wll become the primary target. Sanctuary should stop Maria the Ripper dabbing on people, and as Maria is a curse, Chiyome would help there.
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>>4867794
>ID so close to NTR at the end
My disappointment
Is immeasurable.
and my day is ruined.
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Time to disappear and break my arms.
See you in a while.
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>>4867796
Chiyome should be able make everyone sober.
It will be useful to have Eresh around properly.
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>>4867797
Dirty mind, OP. That ID is from Narration.

Also
>>4867781
switching from >>4867788
to this >>4867796
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>>4867800
causing a fullscale panic creates a window for stabby stabby.
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Satsuki can also hide vulnerable people in her Salvation Gardens.
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Would Merlin's clairvoyance allow him to help find the intruder, or any disturbance they leave in their wake?
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Also, how about Medusoid sisters and their auras? It's probably not a good idea to turn them on while they're at the table but if we got them separated from the guys, could they be able to charm the assassin?
Although I guess that's too risky for them regardless whether it might work.
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>>4867810
Merlin lost his clairvoyance when Manaka dabbed on him yesterday.
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>>4867814
Assassin might be Serenity or Jack, and the Medusa sisters become high priority targets. Even IF we can separate them from all the battle rapists in the room.
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>>4867815
He did? I thought he lost it while he was interfering with clairvoyance in general to keep her from pinpointing us.
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>>4867814
>Defender of the Goddesses - Shapeless Isle: A+ Rank Fortress Noble Phantasm (Medusiana)
>A fortress type Noble Phantasm that can be activated to turn the surroundings into that of the temple upon the Shapeless Isles, while as a pure fortress, it is somewhat easy to infiltrate, all those who break in without Medusiana's permission must make continuous Endurance checks against being melted into a liquid, and will have their magical energy continuously drained at the same time, immediately petrifying those with Magical Energy at D rank or lower. This Noble Phantasm represents the skills that Medusiana would gain later in life, sublimated into something suited for defending those she cares for.
Medusa has better trick up her sleeve.
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>>4867817
No, he didn't cuck himself out of his clairvoyance. He was the only one with clairvoyance in the forest, until Manaka came in a wave of mud and stabbed him just a bit before we found him.

>>4867818
Pulling the greekoids into the shapeless isle sounds like a really, really bad idea.
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>>4867817
He mentioned he got fucked over hard with it during garden talks.
>>4867819
True. Satsuki is better for this one.
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>>4867825
Yeah, Salvation Garden is the best option to protect the vulnerable.
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Ok so Karna's Clairvoyance lets him see through any PC up to EX. So expect EX. Possibility of multiple assassins because Manaka has access to 100 faces as a base and can easily make an alterego with jack or something.

Anyone got the list of the new toys she picked up when she mudded the forest?
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>>4867830
>"Thank you, Medea." You thank the Caster almost immediately as she begins to make an image of the forest appear on the crystal ball. The forest has for some reason been completely restored from when it was utterly obliterated last night. Interesting, but... not relevant to the situation right now. What is however relevant is the single servant standing against an army of altered Servants, some are too clad in oppressive darkness and shadows for you to make out their appearances, but you can tell the identities of a few. Lancelot is there, as is Diarmuid, the leaders of the nearly one hundred shadows that are impossible to work out the identities of. Hundred Faced Hassan, maybe? There are some other altered Servants that don't seem to fit their body types though. Two masked black armor clad men with the builds of knights especially stand out among the shadows.
Just now we saw it.
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>>4867837
So ye, definitely assume multiple attackers. But the fog is jack's toy.

Arc could blow the fog away with her MP too, which stops the full effects of a few of Jack's NPs.
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>>4867840
Are you sure it's jack? Could be a number of other assassins with the fog. Could even be someone else fogging. And we don't know who Waver's assassin was.
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>>4867841
fog + night, two of jack's big calling cards. sent by manaka to a mostly female faction too.

it's a simple task for arc to defang a likely candidate if it comes to it. It could be a combo attack from jack and 100 faces? but the fog, if it's a zabaniya is likely poison or intoxicate due to hassan of intoxicating smoke being the only canon known hassan who uses something like this.

It's specifically mentioned as Fog though, not smoke. And it's on the scale of a weather event. I'd assume it's OOOUUUUHHHHH za rippa
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>>4867848
Yeah, I can't disagree that Jack is likely. But other than her and Intoxicating the fog could be poisonous too, from Serenity. Or it could be from some other Servant entirely. Morrigan, for example, could pull it off, couldn't she?
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>>4867854
Morrigan doesn't have PC:EX. EX PC is the requirement to have Karna not notice you came in the window. A++ or higher for Clae to have not noticed you within 10km.

Also, Morrigan wouldn't go through a window, she's a goddess and a queen. Also, she noped out against just Scat, she wouldn't risk challenging this clusterfuck
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>>4867856
Morrigan could have just sent the fog from afar without coming herself, concealing assassin(s) with the proper PC. Manaka has access to a lot of power now.
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>>4867859
then who was window? Occam's razor, groid
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>>4867861
Could be any assassin. Why do you assume it's just a single attacker, nigger? You said it yourself that we might have more than one assassins on the prowl, is it so unbelievable that they get support from afar too?
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>>4867863
I'm not

>Possibility of multiple assassins because Manaka has access to 100 faces as a base and can easily make an alterego with jack or something.
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>>4867867
Reread what I said. You assume multiple assassins. Why do you assume no support from afar?
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>>4867868
Manaka has jobbed every time and only sent 1 servant at once. Why would she break her cartoon villain monster of the week trope now?
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>>4867869
Clarify that protection mean Satsuki pulling them in her Salvation Garden and I'll support that

>>4867870
For the same reason she sent the tidal cursemud wave yesterday, and why Tesla has been hunting us today. She's getting serious.
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>>4867869
Have Chiyome start sobering people up.
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>>4867868
Does it change anything? We need to be prepared for everything anyway.

Speaking of, how do we know Morrigan can't just walk in through a portal? Should we trigger Gil's bracelet, or keep the option to have Medea teleport people open?

>>4867869
Can we apply extra concept on the fields when we actually gave them Sanctuary?

>>4867870
Because OP wanted to cull the cast, maybe
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>>4867872
I want to kinda leave it open to the NPCs to not be retarded AI that need constant micromanagement because I think better of them than that. Let them have some agency and complain if they job after. Worst case we just have Aliethia sit on Eresh's lap and she makes Kur right here, right now and revives the room is assclap can't defib fast enough.

>>4867875
Fair, we can always buy more booze.
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>>4867877
multiple fields, multiple concepts. worst case sanctuary cucks the initial attack anyway. if it escalates Arc can blow away the fog
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>>4867877
It changes what we should prepare for. Assuming Jack means different preparations, more specific ones.

Morrigan can walk in, but she won't be hidden. We have A LOT of combat people here.

>>4867878
Giving open-ended orders like that means people work at cross-purposes. Even without the NPC AI, meme, what would anyone hearing this assume? Could be anything. There's no point. Either clarify, or take it out.
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>>4867877
>Can we apply extra concept on the fields when we actually gave them Sanctuary?
WhatIs told us that multiple concepts only bad for people because it can affect their mind. Field if just Field so we should be able to give it some more.
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>>4867781

>>4867796
changing a bit with autism extras to..

>activate Sanctuary immediately
>apply the concept of Unveiling to the Bounded Field to unmask the assassin who might have entered the room via the window sus
>sing out through tamamaphone + mental connection broadcast to your own servants there may be an intruder, mention fog gathering outside and an opened window.
>Chiyome, purify yourself and the rest of the room of intoxication and have your eyes peeled for an assassin.
>Have those with sensory abilities use them now
>have vulnerable members rounded up with protection, if Satsuki is able suggest hiding the vulnerable inside her RM
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>>4867781
Support >>4867885
Not the wording I would have used, but it works.
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>>4867887
cope
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>>4867885
>Unveiling
unveiling is liable to work against our own concealed people too, right?
How will Cain(?) react to having his mask removed?
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>>4867781
Supporting >>4867885
>>4867888
>cope
>Wait and Cope
Solid Concept for Dantes.
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>>4867889
it would be extremely painful

Suggest alternatives though. It has to instantly unmask Presence Concealment
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>>4867888
I'm supporting. Seethe
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>>4867885
We can't apply a concept to the Sanctuary Field.
Nice try dead ending us with this meme.
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>>4867897
now counter the rest of the write in or provide something of substance
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>>4867892
Hmm... highlighting might not work and would probably create a lightshow... how about Tracking? Trailing? Might be annoying to keep active.
Can't think of a better one desu

>>4867897
dead end is probably the least bad thing that can happen here of all the bad things.
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>>4867781
Close the window
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>>4867898
Morrigan is going to vore our bounded fields.
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>>4867903
keep going, you can do it
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I say we have Medea open the Gate of Wyverns as a defensive countermeasure.
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>>4867781
>>4867885
Support. No more kisses?
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Inb4 it's nothing and shinji is just being paranoid.
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>>4867913
I wanted to kiss Sakura though.
Kisses give her the determination she needs to use her full power.
So who knows how motivated she is after we fugged her in the shower for half an hour.
She'll probably break Manaka in two with her bare hands.
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If this is Jack we're adding her to the daughter collection right?

Do we have any concepts to fix her?
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Hope its just paranoia and the tourney continues
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>>4867921
Anon, pokemon collection is wrong, whether it is wives or daughters. We barely have enough time for them as it is. We haven't even spoken to Abby at all since we adopted her, Tetsuka and Ourobora will need more attention as they grow up and start speaking, we're saving more daughters next week, and we'll have even more children in nine months. We need to stop. There are alternatives. Kairi, for example, would very much like to have a daughter, and he'd be a good father to Jack. We could ask him. She'll be happy with him.

I remember we talked about fixing her with concepts a while ago, but I don't remember what was discussed. And I can't go check now that the archives are down.
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Where's Ash?
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>>4867921
With Jack it is either adoption or we are sending her to orphanage. Hard to imagine second option.
For Concepts though.
>Assassin of Black, the Servant of Reika Rikudou in Fate/Apocrypha, is an "amalgamation of the children who were aborted by the many prostitutes who lived in Whitechapel, London." Although she committed murders of prostitutes in life, she is uncertain if she was Jack the Ripper or if those were Jack the Ripper's victims. In the world of Fate/Apocrypha, she can never be summoned again after the Great Holy Grail War due to being sublimated by Ruler.
We have few options like Absolution or Indulgence. Although, it could just send soulmass of children right to YHVH. Not the worst option to be honest but Eresh can do better here.
Other approach is to play with idea about “true Jack the Ripper”. Demystification might cause to her to be free from corrupting legend and stop from being summoned as long as we observe said timeline.
>The Limbo of Infants (Latin limbus infantium or limbus puerorum) is the hypothetical permanent status of the unbaptized who die in infancy, too young to have committed actual sins, but not having been freed from original sin. Recent Catholic theological speculation tends to stress the hope, although not the certainty, that these infants may attain heaven instead of the state of Limbo. Most Roman Catholic priests and hierarchy will now say that no child could ever be condemned for the sins committed by our ancestors and that they no longer believe that limbo for children exists.
Some other interesting approach is to concept her with Baptism to play with Limbo myth. Those children died before doctrine was reviewed iirc.
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>>4867928
Ask and ye shall recieve personally i shall only vote and participate in discussion when it comes to the harem and pokemon collecting.
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>>4867926
>wanting many children is wrong.
>wanting many wives is wrong.
>having fun is wrong.
>not wanting to wear the cuck collar is wrong
>doing cool stuff is wrong
Captain Anti-fun is at it again.
Just let Jack take a bath in the Sea of Life so she can experience birth and be Sakura/Tiamat's first daughter.
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>>4867926
We're here to collect
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>>4867933
This is why Islam is based and the one true religion.
What sort of retard thinks babies go to hell/limbo?
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If this is Jack, I hope we can get the full set eventually.
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>>4867926
Pray tell sakurautist why are thou vehemently against pokemon collecting? Do thou just want his favorites to get screentime? Do you not care for the favorites of the other players? Such selfishness is pityful and despicable to look at.
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I am half-expecting this to not be Jack at all, but some kind of fae fuckery with the fog and Morrigan around. Doesn't Enkidu Presence Detect not work so well on things that are "part of the world"?
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>>4867933
I don't think Baptism is the solution with Jack. Too christfag-centric. Her problem is the seethe, not whatever the pope says about her. Especially since the country she came from isn't even Catholic.

>>4867938
So, anon, you find turning Shinji into an asshole neglectful parent and husband fun? Is that what you're trying to say?

>>4867947
Still cringe
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>>4867952
No response then? I shall take that as my victory
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>>4867952
So what's your problem with having Sakura transform Jack into her daughter with Sea of Life powers?
Because it would work.
She just wants to be born.
Sakura can be a mother to her.
She's got the perfect counter to Jack.
Or she can just take Jack inside of her.
Either will be acceptable outcomes to Jack I think.
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>>4867946
Our Rhyme wouldn't look like that.
It would probably be some sort of universe encompassing deity.
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>>4867960
Tiamat is everyone's mother right?~
I'm sure she'd be more than happy to gove birth to Jack. Whatever that even means in this circumstance.
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>>4867940
It is general mix of wanting to keep people in-line, Memento mori attitude to life and confrontation between Popes, Anti-Popes and sects. Those things were part of the reason why Reformation and Counter-Reformation were a thing. But many Protestants went in the other insane directions soon after.
Part of the reason phrase "Christianity died at Montsegur" is a thing.
>>4867946
Gilles should be around so if he makes Jeanne Alter she can be concepted to become her young self. Something like Youth or Christmas will do.
Nursery Rhyme is tricky since this one is Alice`s Servant. Our Nursery Rhyme would be different.
>Nursery Rhyme does not have its own body, and it manifests itself as the will of its current Master. Nursery Rhyme is Alice's identical twin in terms of her appearance; however, her primary colors are black and purple in contrast to Alice's white and blue.
Either second us or Magical Girl Shinji-chan.
For this specific Nursery Rhyme we would have to visit Extra and save Alice.
>>4867951
It could theoretically be Gilles and his army of horrors. But we dab on them super hard.
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>>4867965
Basically just changes her biological make-up to be whatever Sakura's daughters will be like in addition to what she currently is I bet.
Might also make Jack our biological daughter due to Sakura already being pregnant.
I guess we'll know if she has blue hair after being dunked.
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>>4867965
>>4867970
Probably not the wisest move to unseal Sea of Life in the middle of party.
Eresh can also do this with her powers too as she would be able to untangle the souls and restore and heal them with New Kur. Not sure if Alítheia can charge Eresh enough to do that by going into Dragon form.
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>>4867970
>Might also make Jack our biological daughter due to Sakura already being pregnant.
Damn, Tiamat works fast. Not even a day has passed and already giving birth.
>>4867969
>Something like Youth or Christmas will do.
Giving someone the concept of Christmas souns so stupid I kinda wanna do it.
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>>4867975
Just have Sakura eat Jack and Sea of Life her from within.
We have the best solution to her without needing a concept.
Jack the Daughter.
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>>4867952
Yeah, I guess general term like Absolution is better for the job.
But we also have messianic authority due to meeting YHVH.
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>>4867981
We also have a Saver with the Holy Grail around, I guess?
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So does anybody have any objections to granting Jack's wish using Tiamat?
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>>4867978
My personal preference would be giving her Originality, Genuineness or Faith. To mirror how we dealt with Manaka`s Saber Alter.
It is a bigger flex.
>>4867979
>>4867985
While it does fit thematically to Jack, I see big problem in current level on control Sakura and Tiamat have over their power comparing to using Eresh and Concepts. It is like using jackhammer to hammer a nail.
Consider doing these concepts to Sakura and Tiamat before attempting it
>>4860082
>>4860194
Since Jack could be outright deleted upon touching Nullification or worse and goal is to save those souls.
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>>4867982
>Charisma: A+
>A Class Skill of the Saver Class: Charisma at the highest rank possible. It's more like a curse than it is actual charismatic ability at this point. This level of Charisma is sufficient for the creation of a worldwide religion that lasts for thousands of years. This level of Charisma has been achieved less by actual charismatic ability, and more by the fact that Nero is capable of offering the idea of her salvation to others. "If I trust this woman, I will be saved."
>Reformed Messiah: A+++
>A skill showing Nero's status as one who fell to evil, yet was given the truest form of salvation. This skill grants Nero immunity to the attacks and abilities of those who fell to evil in life yet started out pure or innocent. Of course, this skill is something that shows absolute ability over evil. Of those who are evil, only those created or born evil have a chance at harming her through this skill.
>Bearer of the Vessel of Salvation: EX
>Thanks to the application of the concept of Salvation to her, Nero has gained access to something akin to the True Holy Grail. Instead of spewing forth a poison that corrupts and enslaves all life, this cup instead 'saves' whoever drinks from it. Absolving them of sin and purifying their body of any evils that cling to them.
>Nero dislikes using it for anything more than this, though it can be used as a Noble Phantasm.
I guess Nero can do it too. But we were warned about using it by WhatIs.
But Jack might be the best target for this that we can ever run into.
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>>4868002
I just want to give Sakura lots of daughters.
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>>4868061
Undoubtedly based
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There seem to be a lot more lolis in need of saving than shotas I notice.
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>>4868084
People sympathise with girls with tragic pasts better.
So it's a more common writing tool.
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>>4868084
Boys are gay
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>>4868091
How does it feel to be gay, anon?
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>>4868096
Confusing at times
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>>4868084
Well we can go grab Sigma from Prelati when we execute her I guess?
Maiya's kid, so effectively Kerry's responsibility.
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>>4868124
Sure. We're giving him his family back, its the least he could do.
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Soombody tally.
It's time for death.
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>>4868152
>activate Sanctuary immediately
>apply the concept of Unveiling to the Bounded Field to unmask the assassin who might have entered the room via the window sus
>sing out through tamamaphone + mental connection broadcast to your own servants there may be an intruder, mention fog gathering outside and an opened window.
>Chiyome, purify yourself and the rest of the room of intoxication and have your eyes peeled for an assassin.
>Have those with sensory abilities use them now
>have vulnerable members rounded up with protection, if Satsuki is able suggest hiding the vulnerable inside her RM
This wins.
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>>4868152
Death is not terrible, we've met with it more than once in the steppe ...
And now here it looms over me once again,
You await my return, sitting sleepless near a cradle,
And so I know that nothing will happen to me!
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>>4868152
Full tally

>>4867781

>activate Sanctuary immediately
>sing out through tamamaphone + mental connection broadcast to your own servants there may be an intruder, mention fog gathering outside and an opened window.
>Chiyome, purify yourself and have your eyes peeled for an assassin.
>Have those with sensory abilities use them now
>have vulnerable members rounded up with protection
>>4867801

>activate Sanctuary immediately
>apply the concept of Unveiling to the Bounded Field to unmask the assassin who might have entered the room via the window sus
>sing out through tamamaphone + mental connection broadcast to your own servants there may be an intruder, mention fog gathering outside and an opened window.
>Chiyome, purify yourself and the rest of the room of intoxication and have your eyes peeled for an assassin.
>Have those with sensory abilities use them now
>have vulnerable members rounded up with protection, if Satsuki is able suggest hiding the vulnerable inside her RM
>>4867885
>>4867887
>>4867890
>>4867913

>Close the window
>>4867901
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>>4867926
This discussion idk why we keep having it
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Thinking about it, what if Manaka merged Hundred Faces with all the other Hassans for a boost
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>>4868180
She buffed every Servant she got so far.
Look at Shuten, Tesla and Cu.
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>>4867797
Kek
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>>4868084
jack (male)
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No. You don't care if you're being paranoid, but you're activating Sanctuary right now. You're not going to let yourself not take a sensible action through the fear that you're simply being too worried about your enemies. Especially not when your enemy has shown herself to be more than capable of incredible things without effort. That wave of Potnia Theron enhanced mud would've surely killed all of you had Sakura not been there to redirect the wave. You suppose you could've attempted to shield yourself with a barrier of truth, but such a barrier would have been immensely costly, and you don't know if keeping it active would've been possible for long enough to organize a retreat for teleportation.

You drop to the floor and you place a palm against the floorboards, sending some of your magical energy into your network... only to find the link has been severed. How?! How has the core of your bounded field network been damaged?! There's no doubt about it, you're definitely being attacked! This is Manaka's work! You wanted to apply a new concept to a Bounded Field to unmask the Assassin, but you can't do that without making a new one anyway, and you certainly don't have the time for that right now!

"Everyone! We're..." You don't get to finish your sentence, as you are left in stunned silence as two sets of red eyes seem to flash into existence in front of you, daggers flashing towards you. Thanks to the reinforcement, you are capable of bringing yourself into a defensive position to attempt to defend yourself against the sudden sneak attack, but... it is thankfully unneeded. The one on your left is incinerated totally when a glowing red arrow pierces through her small body, and the one on the right is punched with such tremendous force by a certain king that they immediately dissolve into black wisps of shadow, not like the death of a traditional Servant, no...

"Are you OK, advisor?" Mordred is at your side in a flash, sword drawn, wisps of shadow still flickering off the fist that she used to kill the Servant. You only saw them for an instant of a moment, but... you're confused. That was undoubtedly Jack the Ripper, but... why were there two of her? You suppose it should be possible for Berserker Jack to have managed such a thing, but at the same time, their abilities wouldn't allow for them to achieve nearly as effective a sneak attack. So how were there two of them with such strength?
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The fog is flooding into the room now, and you touch the sticker on the back of your hand without hesitating. 'Everyone! We're under attack! Get ready to defend yourself!' You yell out a warning to anybody as of yet unaware of the threat, and you look towards the window again. The fog hasn't stopped coming, either, and it is now freely flowing into the room. "Stay away from the fog! It's deadly!" You shout a warning for everyone to hear, and you can see everyone preparing for a fight now. You take a look out into the dense fog outside the window, and dozens... no, hundreds of pairs of eyes glare back at you. "Chiyome! Purify yourself and prepare to deal with that fog!" You shout to the ninja, who in a single instant goes from slightly confused looking to perfectly determined. "If you have any sort of sensory abilities, I'd suggest you use them! We're-" You're cut off from talking as Mordred suddenly pushes you to the side, you tumble to the floor just in time to avoid what looks like a cloud of gray dust that punches through the wall of your home with ease and down through the floor for an unknowable amount of distance. Using iron sand as a deadly projectile?! Monica, damn you! You were the one who took down the Bounded Fields, weren't you?! Nobody else should know the exact weaknesses of your home!

"An attack from twenty kilometers away, hmm?" Karna suddenly steps forwards, and aims his bow through the hole before letting loose an arrow. "I doubt that will hit unless I get closer to her." Of course, you don't really want him to actually hit this enemy and kill them, considering who they are. Regardless, Karna keeps his words short, while also keeping an eye trained on the open window. Outside are hundreds of enemies, and you only have a few seconds before they enter! You don't have the time to get everyone to safety, in fact... you can only focus on protecting a single table's worth of people!

>>You should prioritize protecting the people who were on...
>...your table.
>...the kid's table.
>...the Emiya family table.
>...the Greek table.
>...the Social table.
>...the magical discussion table
>...the elemental table.
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>>4831549
I think this was sitting plan? So kids, magical or social?
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Oh shit, this is so much worse than we expected. I knew we shouldn't have brought down Sanctuary.

>>4868353
Kids. It has to be the kids. Only Alitheia and Betty can protect themselves. What kind of a father are we if we let them alone?
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>>4868341
>...the kid's table.
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Did we juice Medea up enough that she could teleport everyone?

Barring that we have what, world NPs, Salvation gardens and Marble Phantasm?

I mean there's no reason to stick around if our defenses are gone is there...
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>>4868341
>...the kid's table.
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>>4868341
Kids table
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>>4868364
No, there is no reason to stick around, but no time either. No write-in is possible either.
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Also, how secure is our bedroom now? It was warded for different reasons, but it would not be a set of defenses Monica would be familiar with, so it might be a relatively safe place for non combatants to fall back to if we can't bail the house altogether
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>>4868353
kids are the most helpless with a high female count. but they're also kids, and you'd assume Jack's aggro would go towards older women.

Magical has the medic squad, some males who won't be targeted immediately and can't be hit by the full effects of Maria. Luvia and Reines are the most in danger there.

Social table has a lot of high durability, EOTM (False) and males.

Probably kids?

Unless we concept buff Medea now, have her mass teleport everyone back to Rin's house leaving us and Sakura behind due to her nullification potentially cucking a wider scale teleport, then have Sakura flood the entire area with the Sea of Life while we Truthbubble turtle
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>>4868372
And Arc needs to delete the fog now.
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>>4868367
Teleport, especially if empowered with CS, can't be that time intensive.

Alitheia would probably be able to keep kids safe but there's probably not enough room for her to transform to do it properly, or carry them out...
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>>4868372
>>4868377
Medea has to touch people to teleport them away. She can only bring them to her without touching. She is not an option.

Also, I see no write-in option in that vote.
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>>4868379
You can write-in if you want.
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>>4868341
>...the kid's table.
Guess this is the best course of action.
We should assume Jack is here to harm us and not have fun.
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>>4868341
>>...the kid's table
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>>4868341
>>...the kid's table.
What are the hundreds of pairs of eyes?
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Would it be a good time for Betty to unseal her witch trial? I'm not sure how badly it could affect our own side but it could help if enemy started doing some of the work in destroying itself for us.
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>>4868389
Jacks.

>>4868391
We sealed it because she can't control it. She was turning it against herself by accident. It'll be a massacre.
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>>4868341
Calling in 25.
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>>4868341
>Tell Medea to start moving to the kids table
>Get whoever is closests to Sakura to carry her there next
>Run to the kids table ourselves and have Medea teleport anyone not next to it with us.
>Deploy shield.
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Wait, can Satsuki reach everyone with her Reality Marble from where she is?
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>>4868395
but who was shield?
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>>4868399
Us, we'll make as big a shield as we can with our Truth, and buffs we got. Then if everyone gets close enough, Satsuki can open the RM and we hide out in it for a bit and regroup.
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>>4868397as far as we know, Morrigan still holds some control over her RM. Also, seeing as how this is a jakku + Tesla wobbo combo assume Morrigan is here to jack any RM used
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>>4868402
The jacks are invisible, we'd lock them inside with us and get JUSTed
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>>4868402
Also, Shield of Truth cannot open for anything after we make it. Everyone outside is stuck outside with no protection.
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>>4868408
I CAN'T BREATHE
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>>4868403
Only when she was in it, should be fine to pop it, unless....Gilgamesh pulls everyone in his.
>>4868406
In either case with Satsuki's removing the ability for violence, or Gils chaining Jacks down so we can cleanse them.
>>4868408
All the more reason to get everyone moving in one direction to the table.
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>>4868409
Have you tried to concept the air?
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>>4868410
Gilgamesh doesn't have an RM, anon.
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>>4868410
does Gilgamesh have a RM in saiyanigger quest? Is this new canon? Holy based.
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>>4868412
Then his Vault thing. I don't want our monstergirls to pop theirs to pull everyone out unless absolutely necessary......wait a fucking second. WHERE'S MERLIN?!
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>>4868419
What does Merlin's RM do?
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>>4868421
No dumbass, I mean, where is that skinny little bitch right now, with assassins everywhere?
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>>4868423
https://youtu.be/DGAPTWbdGws
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>>4868423
Somewhere in the room, why?
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>>4868423
Why do you care and why should he care?
He's immortal.
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>>4868426
I forgot if he was in the room or not. I thought he ran off and "disappeared".
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>>4868341
>protect the keeedz
>Concept your left eye with Purity to see through the Assassin's PC.

>Pure Eyes
Pure Eyes (淨眼, Jōgan?), also called Eyes of Purity, are the psychic ability to see that which normally cannot be seen. They are similar to Mystic Eyes in that both are inheritable, however while Mystic Eyes are traits of the body, something like inheriting the traits of a parent's body, Pure Eyes are like inheriting fate and destiny, the offspring continuing the parent's will and quest. They are a more common occurrence than Mystic Eyes and can only be inherited by "humans" with high spiritual power. They can be said to reflect the parent's karma in the offspring, and they are an ability saints may often possess.

Truthman forme de Saint time.
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>>4868423
I'm pretty sure Merlin enjoys getting murdered about as much as we do.
He'll help if he can. First we gotta get the squishies out.
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>>4868428
I don't know what I expected from him.
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>>4868341
Switch >>4868365 to >>4868431
Yeah, we still need a way to see Jack before she attacks. Bounded Field concept was a bust.
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>>4868435
He simps to Arturia's happiness anyway.
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>>4868431
I wonder what kind of Pure Eyes that would result in.
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>>4868431
The Nanaya were able to consistently acquire Pure Eyes by having incestuous relationships. Kiri Nanaya displays the ability to read intentions and emotions through color, and Shiki Tohno can see that which is not supposed to be seen, such as Akiha Tohno's Origami. Both his and Shiki Ryougi's Mystic Eyes of Death Perception can be called a hybrid power, combining both Pure Eyes and Mystic Eyes.
Fitting.
>>4868341
Adding eye concepting to >>4868385
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>>4868439
(Truth)
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>>4868437
Then I guess he can be trusted to watch over her and Shirou even if he doesn't like him. Unless they became acquaintances or something?
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>>4868392
That was before we confronted her and comforted her though. And she kinda did control it, her intent was she hated herself. She should be fine now. But I suppose this is not a best time to practice her conscious control of it.

Anyway I guess we're relying on everyone doing their best this time around.

>>4868341

>...kid's table
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I still think we should concept Merlin with Empathy. He'd thank us for it too.
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>>4868341
>>4868386
>>4868431
Switch. Trust the nigger
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>>4868341
>>4868431
+1
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Called?
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>>4868448
Before, during, or after he turns to heavy drinking?
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A tally, a tally.
An update for a tally.
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>>4868341
I guess it's too late for either to count anyway but for the sake of concept autismo, amending >>4868446
with Niggerman's idea >>4868431

I mean technically if it's part of us we're already holding it for way more than ten seconds right?
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>>4868456
Here you go

>>4868341

>...the kid's table.
>>4868363
>>4868366
>>4868389

>Tell Medea to start moving to the kids table
>Get whoever is closests to Sakura to carry her there next
>Run to the kids table ourselves and have Medea teleport anyone not next to it with us.
>Deploy shield.
>>4868395

>...the kid's table.
>Concept your left eye with Purity to see through the Assassin's PC.
>>4868431
>>4868436
>>4868440
>>4868449
>>4868451
>>4868457
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If this works, it opens up concepting individual parts of ourselves, which is an interesting direction.
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>>4868455
I'm sure it wouldn't be that bad.
Hell, Artoria might actually let him stick around if he's not being a dick to everyone.
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>>4868461
It should work, we already concepted Shiki's eyes with Perfection.
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>>4868462
Well empathy might give him a case of existential crisis.
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>>4868472
I don't think it would be on the level of Kotomine if we gave him empathy. Sure he might feel conflicted and confused, but Artoria would be willing to help him.
Unless qm says it would be a horrible idea, I'd say go for it. He himself complained he can't empathize with humans.
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>>4868478
Just to confirm, it is "Empathy" he needs or "Sympathy?" Keep in mind his dream demon powers already make him aware of the emotions of those around him, or something. However that works needs to be made certain before we can concept him appropriately
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>>4868478
So long as he learns that his fetish is shit, and to renounce futamancy forevermore. I'll call it a win. Him not actively fucking things up would be great.
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>>4868488
Empathy is to understand others. He says he can't understand humans.
I can sympathize with someone who lost their children, but I couldn't empathize, since that hasn't happened to me.
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>>4868498
I thought his power was giving him empathy but not sympathy. Check the wiki and clarify this?
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>>4868523
Might be Sympathy then. I don't think just understanding is Empathy, but that might be splitting hairs.
Sympathy would definitely work. We can save Empathy for someone else.
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>>4868478
Kirei's deal isn't that he can't feel empathy, he's likes Pariston from HxH, his wires are crossed and he can only feel joy hurting people and its exacerbated with the people he truly cares about, he cared for Rin for example so he really enjoyed himself when he gave her her father's murder weapon
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The kids. You need to protect the kids. Aside from Betty and Alítheia none of them can properly defend themselves, they are the least well defended group, and therefore the easiest targets for this onslaught of Assassins to target. Everyone is still confused right now, with the exception of a few of your allies, who are either perfectly calm, like Arcueid or Gilgamesh, or battle ready instantly, like Arturia, Karna and Mordred. There's mostly a mix, however. But in general, people are clearly readying themselves for a fight.

You race towards the kids, as a thought occurs in your mind. Your ability to apply concepts to things... could the same apply to... parts of your own body? Time seems to slow as you have the thought. You've... already been in contact with effectively every part of your body for the required amount of time, and your grasp of conceptual modifications has... improved by a great deal recently, it should be possible.

You focus on your left eye. Only your left eye. There's only one concept that you can think of applying that will be of any use to you in this situation. 'Purity'. Through the application of Purity as a concept to your left eye, that will almost certainly end with you developing Pure Eyes, which should in turn increase your perceptive abilities to a degree great enough that you should easily be able to see even the terrifyingly high level of Presence Concealment possessed by the current Jack. Clearly enhanced massively by Manaka. It's strange that neither Diarmuid nor Lancelot seemed to have been enhanced to such degrees, or even Saber Alter herself, but... it's possible that Manaka has decided to change her tactics now though. After all, you've managed to counter her plans at effectively every turn, other than a few moments you weren't involved in at all. The girl has been stopped from getting her own way almost at every single turn. Of all of your friends that she kidnapped, only Monica, Bazett and Cu remain in her clutches, and you hardly even knew Bazett or Cu. Of course, that doesn't mean you aren't planning on saving them as well, but Monica easily takes priority over them. Easily.
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You begin to infuse the concept into your eye as you sprint towards the part of the room with the kids, and a terrible pain occurs in your left eye as you do, the immediate push back from your own body as it seems to be fighting against you trying to apply a concept to yourself, the contradiction of even attempting to apply a simple concept to your own body causing you to almost seize up in pain, it's clear that you're definitely not supposed to be doing something like this, the pain is bad enough, but the magical energy cost is already many times higher than it would be for applying far more advanced concepts compared to something as simple as purity, and it's not like a higher quantity of magical energy would help either, this is... not something you have any intention of repeating. The process only takes a few second, but even after the concept is applied, you feel weaker than you did before and your left eye is still burning, you used way too much magical energy up on that, but... it was worth it.

[Status Updated!]

Just as you reach the kids, the conceptual application to your own eye is finished, and despite the terrible pain it is still causing you, it serves the intended purpose. What you weren't expecting to see however were the literal dozens of Jack already in the room, hiding, clinging to walls, clinging to the ceiling, waiting for the fog to roll in to drop in on their targets. Karna is seemingly aware of the girls clinging to the ceiling and the walls too, but just... uncertain of what to do about them, he must be aware that attacking them right now would cause them to spring their attack immediately.

When you reach the kids, Abby clings to you tightly, apparently scared of the attack, and you soon find yourself standing protectively in front of a large group of kids all cowering behind you. The only exceptions being of course Alítheia and Betty, who both stand at your side, prepared to defend their family and friends with all of their might, but... it's clear that the eyes in the fog outside are merely meant to distract from the fact that Jack has already infiltrated the room. You try to avoid looking up too much, but curiously, each of them has a completely different outfit to each other. Though all of them late Victorian era design. A mixture of obvious boy's outfits and dresses and skirts. Even though each of them look identical to the other. Still, it does give you a chance to get a good look at them, and you do remember some of Jack's abilities too...

[Status Updated!]
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You're standing in front of the kids right now, and you realize that the Jacks are yet to actually attack, and are clearly waiting for the fog to roll in fully before they do. Their original surprise may have been lost, but... as Assassins, it's quite obvious that just because the initial surprise was lost, they aren't just going to all charge at you like a loose formless mob. Not while the fog has started to spread through the room unchecked. You briefly consider using your pure eye, it should be able to tell you most everything about Jack and her new abilities if you use it...

>Use your Pure Eye to uncover Jack's full abilities.
>Order everyone to just destroy everything around you. You can rebuild.
>Direct Betty to squash every Jack hiding on the ceiling with her Mystic Eyes.
>Have somebody deal with the Fog (Who?)
>Warn everyone that the Jacks are above you all.
>Write-in...
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>Pure Eye: EX [WisUp!]
>A skill that shows that Shinji is in possession of a Pure Eye. To be more specific, the Pure Eye of Truth, which allows for the perfect discernment of truths. Eyes that cannot be deceived by anything they can see. While a spoken lie would not be seen through as it is only heard, a written falsehood would. It is impossible to hide from the sight of the Pure Eye of Truth, only actual physical obstructions are capable of blocking this vision. Illusions, Magical Disguises, Invisibility, Presence Concealment, nothing can trick this eye. Even Presence Concealment: EX or skills such as Sphere Boundary would fail utterly when stacked against this ability. In addition, by focusing a large amount his magical energy into this eye, Shinji can use it to determine the True Name and abilities of an unknown person or object, even of Servants and Noble Phantasms. In the case of something having multiple True Names, Shinji will be made aware of all of them.
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Gotta say, Jack is really making poor Hundred Faces Hassan look even worse than Zero did.
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>>4868900
Should help martial arts memes too, like a much better version of Musashi's Empyrean Eye
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Oh, also, you've now got a permanent shining golden left eye.

Enjoy that.
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>>4868917
>Enjoy that.
I am
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>>4868917
kino
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>>4868917
Goddammit, Heterochromia. We really are a gary stu.
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>>4868924
You caused this.
It's less Heterochromia anyway.
More that your left eye glows like a fucking lightbulb.
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>>4868926
will Alan compliment our matching eyes now?
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>>4868926
I'm sure Alan will appreciate our attempts to be more like him.
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This also just dunks on Prelati, Merlin, etc, I guess?
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>>4868924
constantly wearing suits all the time like a jackass shoulda been our first clue
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>>4868941
And all trannies
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>>4868944
You're ditching the suits in exchange for outfits you can actually fight in without ruining them.
At least for the grail war now.
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>>4868947
yeah ik, which is a good change as wearing suits all the time is extremely autistic
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>>4868947
the traditional Makiri tracksuit
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I wonder if this bit

>In addition, by focusing a large amount his magical energy into this eye, Shinji can use it to determine the True Name and abilities of an unknown person or object, even of Servants and Noble Phantasms. In the case of something having multiple True Names, Shinji will be made aware of all of them.

May let us discern Mysteries in general a bit, not just Servant stuff specifically.
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>>4868948
We suggested some good stuff in the early threads. The Longcoat and Scarf, a bomber jacket with jeans and a t-shirt, sweats and a hoodie, Shinji's normal outfits.
But suit autism won out.
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>>4868960
I think a brown trenchcoat and a turtleneck would look good
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>>4868884
>warn everyone about jacks in the ceiling
>ask Arc to deal with the fog

Also maybe we should mentally ask Medea to start teleporting squishier people to a safer location? But there might be better use for her abilities especially if she’d need to round people up first.
Can we use the mental link to feed our Servants targeting information?
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>>4868900
>>4868913
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>>4868917
Need, baby Emperor of Mankind shit right there.
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>>4868917
THE THUS THE APOTHEOSIS BEGINS
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>>4869105
We need to get way more jacked, and turn into a giant first.
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>>4868884
>Direct Betty to squash every Jack hiding on the ceiling with her Mystic Eyes.
>Tell Chiyome where they are at they same time.
>Let Medusa know as well, so her eyes can turn them to stone.
>Warn everyone the Jack's are waiting for the fog to come in.
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>>4869202
>Crest of the Star (EX Rank): The unique pattern imprinted on Altera's body, a strange design that does not belong to the Huns but resulted from some advanced ritual. The higher the rank, the higher one's attack power is increased. By expending mana through it, Altera can temporarily enhance the performance of any desired part of the body. An efficient Skill that costs little mana but lacks the explosiveness of Skills like Mana Burst. In addition, this unique Skill also has the effects of the Instinct Skill - since it felt like it was missing a little something.
Copy this.
Also work with martial arts memes. Think of something like L5R and we are already cool with yakuza.
>Dragon Monk Tattoos
>In addition to normal, cosmetic tattoos, some members of the Dragon Clan had the ability to create magic tattoos that allowed their bearers to use special abilities. The most famous tattoos came from the monastic orders of the Dragon Clan. The Hitomi, Hoshi and Togashi all tattooed their initiates. The Kokujin monks received tattoos as well. The tattoos these monks received granted the bearer special powers based on their design. For example, a centipede tattoo allowed its bearer to run at very high speeds for a time, whereas tattoos of frost or fire gave their bearers the ability to breath ice or flame respectively.
>The tattoos did not grant power, they unlocked what was already within the tattooed.
Could be something close to Vritra`s pattern.
But it is something to ponder for the future. And after getting Dragon Core I would imagine we get dragon eyes or at least golden one will be.
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>>4868884
>Have somebody deal with the Fog (Arc)
Arc finally has a chance to do something hopefully she doesn't job again.
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>>4869242
Inb4 she jobs because its not Fog but city Smog based on Jack's stuff and not nature based.
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>>4869246
I could sadly see this happening.
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>>4869246
would it be much of a stretch to consider smog as a nature's punishment for industry?
It's not like it was intended effect, rather it's an unintended consequence of activity of machines within natural laws.
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>>4869256
Would be really disappointing if millennium castle Brunsted fails to clear some smog.
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This is so much worse than we thought. That's why I didn't want the Bounded Field brought people. But no use crying over spilled milk. We need to go back into combat autism mode and start discussing and proposing things before we vote and make it a mess with vote switches. Just like what got us through all the danger yesterday. Otherwise we WILL lose people.

>Assassin of White
>of White
So I guess Merlin's group of seven was the White faction.

>Maria the Ripper - The Holy Mother of Dismemberment: D~B+ Rank Anti-Unit Noble Phantasm
A Noble Phantasm representing the sublimation of Jack the Ripper's murders as a concept. While usually a relatively weak Noble Phantasm, there are three conditions that can be fulfilled. The first condition is that it is night time, the second condition is that the target is a woman, and the final condition is that it is misty or foggy. Should one of these conditions be fulfilled, attack power will be doubled. If two are fulfilled, then attack power will be double again. If all three of the conditions are fulfilled, then this Noble Phantasm will cause instant death on its target if it is not interrupted. As this skill is not a physical technique, but instead a curse, the knives will simply manifest into the body of her target.
Three conditions. All three will be fulfilled soon, and Jack will be able to instakill all women in the room. We need to stop her now. And without attacking her or shouting a warning, or she springs the ambush now and kills the people she can. Arcueid SHOULD be able to clear the fog. Alternatively, Saber can use her Invisible Air to blow it away. Any other option that I'm not seeing?

And demolishing everything around seems awfully, awfully tempting. Is there a single irreplaceable thing in the mansion that is not in this room?
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>>4868917
We'll rip it out when we can and use it to make an eye contact Mystic Code.

>>4869172
This was supposed to be the safer location, and having Medea running around the room touching people to send them away is a VERY good way to get her instakilled by Jack.
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>>4869284
>This was supposed to be the safer location,
yeah well maybe because we lost the bounded fields and got surrounded by an army
>having Medea running around the room touching people to send them away is a VERY good way to get her instakilled by Jack.
If she gets a critical role she can also be targeted for priority defense.

And if the instakill is a curse she can simply be the first for Chiyome to give protection buff to.

Also do you have a better idea?
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Going from
>Acquisition of Mystic Eyes happens when there is some sort of mutation in the Magic Circuits located in the area around one's eyes. Mutations like that can be done artificially through a process similar to forging a Magic Crest.
And keeping in mind our
>Blessed Circuits: A+
>Thanks to a blessing granted to him by God, Shinji can safely use all of his body's magic circuits, without any fear of overtaxing them, no matter how much magical energy is run through them. He could be called a perfect conduit for magical energy at this point, capable of using his magic circuits to freely direct magic energy from one source to another without any loss. It is possible to even draw large amounts magical energy directly from the earth with this level of control, rapidly restoring magical energy reserves. In addition, any form of attack formed of holy energy will be instantly absorbed and turned to magical energy.
So, it is Blessed Pure Eye as well due to nature of our Magic Circuits. On top of being perfect conduit for magic energy.
>Differing from the Magic Circuits of regular humans, Saber and Saber of Black when he was alive have a Magic Core (魔術炉心, Majutsu Roshin?) granted by their Dragon blood. Its capacity is far greater than any human can achieve. While a magus' body can be considered a machine which creates magical energy, Saber's Core acts as a factory which creates magical energy.
After Magic Circuits mutates to shiny new Dragon Core, we get some nice bonuses as well.
>Mana Burst (魔力放出, Maryoku Hōshutsu?, localized as "Prana Burst"EX, EXT) is the increase in performance caused by infusing one's weapons and body with Magical Energy and instantly expelling it. Simply put, recreating the effect of a jet burst by expending large amounts of Magical Energy.
Going by Mana Burst as it is described with nature of our Blessed Dragon Core in mind, we should be able to learn Truth eye beam.
Still need to learn to do this properly though.
>>4869284
>We'll rip it out when we can and use it to make an eye contact Mystic Code.
It is part of Shinji`s existence and doing our Reality Marble will just restore it.
Learn to control the output and hope Dragon Core even things out to make the other eye match it in color.
Also, eye patch Mystic Code in tandem with eye can be pretty handy and have a lot of potential uses. We already know that Tamamo can make Mana Burst gloves so Mana Burst eye patch is not out of question even now.
And if you really want to rip out an eye. Concept the other eye with Wisdom and rip it out for Odin synchronism.
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>>4869298
My point is that there is no safe location for them to teleport to. This was supposed to be it, and it's not anymore. We have no fallback, no bunker, nothing.

There is no priority defense against an instakill attack. It's instant. Medea dies in a moment if we place a bullseye on her. We can't even intercept it, it manifests knives inside her body.

I already offered my suggestions in the post right above the one you replied to. Have Arcueid, Saber or both clear out the fog, MAYBE demolish everything. I'm waiting for other people to offer their ideas so we can discuss things, figure out the flaws in each other's ideas and come up with the perfect plan that allows us to get through this without losing anyone. That's EXACTLY what we did in the forest. When we ambushed the Alters, captured two and narrowly avoided Salter cutting Medea in two, when we chopped off our arm to save ourselves from Chiyome's poison, when we had Sakura unleash a tiny bit Tiamat and absorb Angra Enkidu's cursemud.
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>>4869316
>It is part of Shinji`s existence and doing our Reality Marble will just restore it.
I am not sure at all this is true, but we should still rip it out. If it is restored we can repeat and equip all our allies with Mystic Codes that let them see everything.

And there's a huge problem with an eyepatch: It covers up the eye. We can't use it if it's covered up. It defeats the purpose if we can't see an ambush coming.
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>>4869319
>My point is that there is no safe location for them to teleport to. This was supposed to be it, and it's not anymore. We have no fallback, no bunker, nothing.
Pretty much anywhere that isn't here would be safer.
although admittedly that does depend on whether teleports can be tracked and what effective range of the enemy is, they could conceivably split their forces as well.

>There is no priority defense against an instakill attack.
There is defense against her personal skill and that's having someone with you with suitable response time. That's something we are going to need to ensure group by group anyway. As for the instakill, if it's curse Chiyome should be immune to it and able to ward it off.

And I think we're mostly in agreement here that fog needs to go already.
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>>4869327
>And there's a huge problem with an eyepatch: It covers up the eye. We can't use it if it's covered up. It defeats the purpose if we can't see an ambush coming.
meh, just use a stained glass monocle to make the glow less annoying.

Also it will be fun to read the newspaper with it.
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>>4869276
>multiple "Jacks"
I'm thinking Manaka summoned the concept of Jack the Ripper, with many bodies avaliable as jack could've been anyone at the time. Considering the FGO jack seems to be the collection of dead children, stillborns, and such, it's possible she gets to use all of the bodies.
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>>4869338
>Pretty much anywhere that isn't here would be safer.
Monica railgunned that iron dust from more than ten kilometers away. Morrigan can teleport. And Manaka is the only one with clairvoyance around. Anyone that Medea teleports will get ambushed immediately even if she sends them halfway across the world. Our home is not safe, but it is still the safest location in the world because everyone that can protect people is here.

>There is defense against her personal skill and that's having someone with you with suitable response time. That's something we are going to need to ensure group by group anyway. As for the instakill, if it's curse Chiyome should be immune to it and able to ward it off.
No response time can help you from knives instantly materializing inside the target and instakilling them. Not even Mordred is fast enough. Chiyome is certainly immune, but the moment we tell her to go and apply this protection to anyone is the moment that anyone dies. The only reason people haven't dropped yet is that the fog hasn't covered the room, and Jack is waiting to kill everyone with a single sneak attack.

I don't see anything better we can do other than clearing the fog, I'm just waiting for more people to maybe offer suggestions because that seems too little.

>>4869344
Yeah, that makes sense. Manaka summoned Assassin Jack, and then upgraded her so every soul inside her could manifest a separate body.
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>>4869344
>Considering the FGO jack seems to be the collection of dead children, stillborns, and such
I guess Ciel doesn't have an authority to exorcise or put them to rest, does she?
What about Ereshkigal? Can she do anything with them?
Rejuvenating them souls will probably not be helpful in this respect...
>suddenly aborted prostitute babies begin to pop up everywhere
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>>4869347
Chiyome is our servant, we don't need to use words to tell her anything. But I suppose you're right that seeing her move towards someone might prompt a response attack. Then again the same can be said for clearing the fog unless it vanishes instantly the Jack may still kill everyone who is currently in it before Arc or Saber are done with it.

Could CS make Chiyome's protection AOE and instantaneous?
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Speaking of golden eyes reminded me of a certain movie and a certain theme song. And holy shit, Sakura is singing this!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOgFS6AYoVc

>See reflections on the water
>More than darkness in the depths
>See him surface in every shadow
>On the wind I feel his breath

>You'll never know how I watched you
>From the shadows as a child
>You'll never know how it feels to be the one
>Who's left behind
>You'll never know the days, the nights,
>The tears, the tears I've cried
>But now my time has come
>And time, time is not on your side

>See him move through smoke and mirrors
>Feel his presence in the crowd
>Other girls they gather around him
>If I had him I wouldn't let him out

>You'll never know how I watched you
>From the shadows as a child
>You'll never know how it feels to get so close
>And be denied
>It's a gold and honey trap
>I've got for you tonight
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>>4869354
Yeah, having Chiyome approach someone in the fog is a death sentence. Arc and Saber SHOULD be able to clear the fog instantly, before Jack has a chance to react

I don't think that a CS would be able to do that, but I can't say for sure.
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>>4869327
>I am not sure at all this is true, but we should still rip it out. If it is restored we can repeat and equip all our allies with Mystic Codes that let them see everything.
Powergaming and Vorechadness banish Sakura`s Anti-Fun tendencies.
Although, it is common for Catholics and Eastern Orthodoxy to possess relics made out body parts of Saints.
It would be quite strong Mystic Code too. Of that I am certain.
Plus, Sakura will always carry onii-chan body parts with her. Romanic.
>And there's a huge problem with an eyepatch: It covers up the eye. We can't use it if it's covered up. It defeats the purpose if we can't see an ambush coming.
Ask to boost it with effects such as emulation of Clairvoyance or Sphere Boundary for omnidirectional sight.
Tamamo told us
>"Of course. But... before kissing me, we should discuss what exactly you want me to create for you, my abilities... well, they don't have many limits, but I've had a few ideas about what I should create you when I get the chance, and I'd like to tell you some of them." She's clearly been thinking about this for some time without even having been prompted, hasn't she?
So playing around with potential extra effects is always an option.
And with extra Casters we can add much more. Just look at our map-radar.
How about Dragon Language or Fairy Language reading? Written form of High-Speed Divine Words? Or perhaps piercing through Lovecraftian texts without needing help from Niggerman.
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>>4869363
>Romanic.
Romantic.
And EMIYA can use Reinforcement for his eyes so we should be able to that too.
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>>4869355
Psst. Eye of Incest.
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>>4869348
rejuvinating them would probably be less effective than just outright exorcising them on the spot. Consider them less "souls" and more of manifested grudges
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>>4869354
>Witchcraft (Purification) A++
>This skill represents nearly the pinnacle of skill that one can reach with the witchcraft of priestesses. Specialized in purification, cleansing evil, healing others, breaking curses and banishing demons and evil spirits, Chiyome is capable of incredible acts of witchcraft with anti-evil attributes. Sealing charms, barriers, and even calling upon divine blessings to aid her and her allies. all of this is possible for her. Also, any sort of poison, no matter how deadly or fast, is rendered unable to harm her, and she can imbue this ability on another.
Given that Jack is Chiyome can make pretty useful barrier to protect everyone from evil mental interference and other evil effects Jack might have. She used it quite effective to seal Grandpa from potentially trying to possess people.
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>>4869363
>Powergaming and Vorechadness banish Sakura`s Anti-Fun tendencies.
I am an abrasive asshole who was right about literally everything, but I am not antifun, and we need to work together to get through this with no casualties.

And we could just have Tamamo make us an eyepatch that's opaque from the outside and transparent from the inside. I'm sure she can do it. Eye contact is still the best option though.

>>4869378
Problem is, Jack is ready to strike. That would be a good thing to do after we clear the fog, but not before.

>>4869373
See reflections on the water
More than darkness in the depths
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>>4869359
>Arc and Saber SHOULD be able to clear the fog instantly, before Jack has a chance to react
As long as she doesn't hear us shouting it.
Fortunately we have tamamophone for that.
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>The association of an eye with the concept of Divine Providence is found in Christianity. In late Renaissance European iconography, the Eye, surrounded by a triangle, was an explicit image of the Christian Trinity.[15] The Eye of Providence was later painted over an image of three faces in Pontormo's 1525 Supper at Emmaus.[5] Seventeenth-century depictions of the Eye sometimes show it surrounded by clouds or sunbursts.[16] The Eye of God in a triangle is still used in church architecture and Christian art to symbolize the Trinity and God's omnipresence and divine providence.
High Throne of Arda`s Mighty Hall
The Eye That Knows Of One And All
Steward of Stone & Spirit, Beast & Man
Who Bears Their Strength Upon His Hand
>>4869388
>And we could just have Tamamo make us an eyepatch that's opaque from the outside and transparent from the inside. I'm sure she can do it. Eye contact is still the best option though.
Think bigger.
I am still missing Cursed Arm Wand we never got.
>spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlsSiEpZMQY
>>4868913
And going back to martial arts memes.
Eye no-sell pretty much everything that relies on fooling your opponents. Like Killing Arts bonus and all other similar things. Great synergy with all other skills like that.
This also means that all movements can be read without obscurification meaning that determining you opponent fighting style and acting on instinct is much easier if we can keep proper track of them.
It is our ticket for further refining our Bajiquan, Killing Arts and Eye of the Mind. Preferably drilling latter to Instinct using fake Sphere Boundary. Worth learning how to do proper Vitrification from Sasaki too.
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>>4869408
Yep, Tamamophone will save our asses once again.

>>4869409
Think bigger? Did I not say we should rip it out repeatedly? Can't go bigger than that.

Also, does anyone have any objections to having people blow up the roof and everything outside this room as soon as we clear the fog? Is there a single reason we shouldn't do it?

See him surface in every shadow
On the wind I feel his breath
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>Defender of the Goddesses - Shapeless Isle: A+ Rank Fortress Noble Phantasm (Medusiana)
>A fortress type Noble Phantasm that can be activated to turn the surroundings into that of the temple upon the Shapeless Isles, while as a pure fortress, it is somewhat easy to infiltrate, all those who break in without Medusiana's permission must make continuous Endurance checks against being melted into a liquid, and will have their magical energy continuously drained at the same time, immediately petrifying those with Magical Energy at D rank or lower. This Noble Phantasm represents the skills that Medusiana would gain later in life, sublimated into something suited for defending those she cares for.
>Jack
>Parameters:
>Endurance: E--
If you want to meme hard on Jack.
Or have Nobu go all out since she is SUPREME.
>Fall of Imagawa: Bluff of Okehazama: E~EX Rank Anti-Army Noble Phantasm
>A Noble Phantasm that is the sublimation of Nobunaga's greatest military strategy, the deception of the Imagawa clan, where she fooled a far greater military force through a clever strategy. The power of this Noble Phantasm depends on the power of the enemies she uses it to fool, if she is completely overwhelmed in power by them, she is capable of freely creating illusions and near instantaneous movement, in addition to temporarily gaining Presence Concealment at a rank of EX until she attacks, in which case the effect ends immediately.
Fake targets versus overwhelming numbers of Jacks and possible arriving enemies. And she goes all out with her guns to purge them right after deception hits.
>>4869412
>Can't go bigger than that.
Visit Mimir.
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And Fox Wife can just use her Noble Phantasm to buff and protect everyone and blast away any further enemy reinforcements that are still arriving.
Might just need to protect her from serbian incel trying to snipe everyone who goes near windows or out of the house.
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>>4869432
Yeah, Tamamo should do good here. She can also blow up the roof with all the Jacks after we clear the fog. She'll need protection herself though, she'll become a priority target immediately.

You'll never know how I watched you
From the shadows as a child
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>>4869466
What about Arcueid and Saber clearing the fog, skipchad nigger? It should be done first. It's GG no re if Jack gets the drop on anyone. Miyako doesn't have a tamamophone, and Sun doesn't have a fan on her charsheet.

Mo and Karna should be on protection duty first, cleanup second.

And we should yell at Nobu to form a line of muskets and clear the perimeter once the we've cleared the room.

You'll never know how it feels to be the one
Who's left behind
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>>4869472
Miyako is right next to us at the kids table. It fucked up the formatting hang on i'll readd the spaces
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>>4869475
You're still using an awful lot of ifs for the fog. We KNOW Arc and Saber can do it. Have the others try too if you want, but Arc and Saber need to be part of the plan.

You'll never know the days, the nights,
The tears, the tears I've cried
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>>4869472
>>4869475
>>4869477
Define favorable outcome, CABAL.
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>>4869486
Looks good to me. Make it official?

But now my time has come
And time, time is not on your side
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>>4869487
I thought it was a fucking voot too AHHAFDSFAGBN
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>>4868884

Tamamophone:
>Mo, Karna - A dozen glowniggers are on the roof and many more outside. Protect Tamamo, Chiyome and Medea as well as those around you, we're dealing with a large swarm of A++ Presence Concealed enemies.
>Artoria, Arceuid, clear away the fog encompassing the area, as if it surrounds us it'll allow the assassins to use their full strength!

>Mentally contact Medea, have her destroy the roof with her magic to kill the concealed assailants, and once she has, open up the Gate of Wyverns and flood the surrounds with them to harass the assassins gathered outside.
>Mentally contact Chiyome and have her apply Purification protection to Tamamo + work together with their shared magical arts to create a Purification zone using Tamamo's NP and whatever Chiyome has up her sleeve to make this work.

Tamamaphone:
>Tamamo, work together with Chiyome and use Eightfold Blessings to cover the house and surrounds with a boundary of purification.


>Alítheia, hold Betty's hand and support your sister with your powers, Betty, summon as many friends as you can that have combat capability and vision to see the unseen. Have them swarm and attack the enemies outside when you can, I'll protect you both.
>Miyako, if Sun has her Banana Leaf Fan have her use it to blow this fog away from here, now!

>Mentally contact Suzuka and have her activate Tricholo to sense the assassins on the roof, and provide covering fire
>Yell out to Nobu and those who can provide covering fire to prepare to blast the swarm of assassins waiting outside as they try and enter
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>>4868884
Support >>4869490

>>4869489
kek, speednigga.

See him move through smoke and mirrors
Feel his presence in the crowd
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finna make Jackku Mo's new MI6

kill all spooks
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>>4868884

switching from >>4869172
to >>4869490
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>>4868884
>>4869490
Supporting.
Our abilities might be a little too OP.
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>>4868884
Supporting >>4869490
>Karna
>Tamamo
>Medea
Time for SUN.
>>4869492
>mirrors
Mirror?
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Oh, can we have somebody wrangle Atalante before she has a brain leak please?
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>>4869494
Diarmuid and Lancelot as the first of her new Knights of the Round Table, Jack as her spook, Mordred's court is shaping up nicely.

>>4869502
Atalante is currently busy BSODing between the kids attacking us and the table of kids that need to be protected. She'll get back to you later.

Other girls they gather around him
If I had him I wouldn't let him out
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>>4869490
also I forgot to include Obi's HOPE which would also offer debuffs to the jakku army and buffs for allies, as well as A++ luck for a time.

Next update maybe.
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>>4869503
I still think it would be good to have Alcides to pin her to the floor to stop going full retard.
Pankrationniggas.

Also I thought Mo wanted Shirou as First Knight?
She'll have to ask Dadmom real nicely for that though.
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>>4869514
Yeah, this plan is too big as it is. WhatIs will definitely break it up in more than one updates. We can add it at the next opportunity.

>>4869516
Pretty sure Shirou will be retiring with his fiancee to his sister's cool castle in Germany.

Golden chains take him to the spot
Goldeneye I'll show him forever
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I hope we get a chance to roll for Medea`s summoning results.
If we do good enough with Gate of Wyverns she might ger her chariot back with all new SUN powers due to synchronism.
>The importance of Medea's genealogy is to help define what level of divinity she possessed. By some accounts, like the Argonautica, she is depicted as a young, mortal woman. She is directly influenced by the Greek gods (through Hera and Aphrodite) and while she possesses magical abilities, she is still a mortal with divine ancestry. Other accounts, like Euripides' play Medea, focus on her mortality, although she transcends the mortal world at the end of the play with the help of her grandfather Helios and his sun chariot. Hesiod's Theogony places her marriage to Jason on the list of marriages between mortals and divine, suggesting that she is predominantly divine. She also has connections with Hecate,[4] who was the goddess of magic, which could be one of the main sources from which she draws her magical ties.
>According to Euripides' version, Medea took her revenge by sending Glauce a dress and golden coronet, covered in poison. This resulted in the deaths of both the princess and the king, Creon, when he went to save his daughter. Medea then continued her revenge, murdering two of her children herself and refusing to allow Jason to hold the bodies. Afterward, she left Corinth and flew to Athens in a golden chariot driven by dragons sent by her grandfather, Helios, god of the sun.
>Although Jason in Euripides calls Medea most hateful to gods and men, the fact that the chariot is given to her by Helios indicates that she still has the gods on her side. As Bernard Knox points out, Medea's last scene with concluding appearances parallels that of a number of indisputably divine beings in other plays by Euripides. Just like these gods, Medea “interrupts and puts a stop to the violent action of the human being on the lower level, … justifies her savage revenge on the grounds that she has been treated with disrespect and mockery, … takes measures and gives orders for the burial of the dead, prophesies the future,” and “announces the foundation of a cult.”[11]
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>>4869519
Mommy Tiamat, have you been drinking? You should stop, it's bad for the kids.
Gate of Wyverns is just mook wyvernspam, why would we roll for that? And what does the gate that she got from our daughter have to do with her grandpa? Are you basing this on just the mounts?

It'll take forever to see
What I've got
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>>4869522
sunlet
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>>4869490
desu I'm a little bit worried about effect mass production of familiars will have on Arcueid, Lugh and Taigalaya. I really hope it won't interfere with defogisation, or if it does that Arturia will be able to pick up the slack.
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>>4869525
Powers of Sol Invictus rebuke him.
SUN -> Ammy -> Our Sun -> Sun Gods -> Sol Invictus (Human Order made manifest) -> Rome -> Love.
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>>4869526
Monke contingency plan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Iron_Fan

He should have access to it.

Also, full release Invisible Air, shame we never happened upon Sushi or Kurama. If all else fails, big dragon girl wingbeats or Gil opens up the mystery box and pulls out a prototype bag of winds or banana fan/tengu fan etc.
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>>4869276
Merlin created Invisible Air right?
All the Casters should be able to disperse some fog.
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>>4869529
Arceuid created jobbing
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>>4869530
We should've set her up with Gilgamesh to create the ultimate jobber child from their union.
Suggest Alberich for the name.
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>>4869531
She's going to job again, for the 3rd time when she sees Betty's cute eyeless sonarbats or whatever she makes.

Concept Arc with Unemployment so she can never job again
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>>4869530
Concept Arc with Competence.
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I'm a little worried by the fact that The Mist has been upgraded to an A+ barrier instead of C.
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>>4869533
Betty just solving our maid problem.
She just going to get few new maids, no big deal.
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>>4869536
we need the windy handbag from awakening.

Or quetz's solar winds would have helped.
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>>4869527
>Love below Rome
>Love that far down
I seethe, cope and dilate
What is Sun if not love between light atomic nuclei as they press against each other?
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>>4869534
Competence is too opposite to her character, mommy Tiamat. I'm worried of what it'll do to her.

>>4869538
Yeah, the windy leather handbag would help.

>>4869539
They just don't know what love is, anon. They need someone to show them.

You'll never know how I watched you
From the shadows as a child
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>>4869538
Just get Alberich`s doot horn for one extra Tiamat.
>>4869539
Reverse the order, Son of Man.
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>>4869543
So you agree that love agape is the ultimate power?

You'll never know how it feels to get so close
And be denied
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Adopting all these Jacks might be hard.
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>>4869553
Going by how Natural Born Killers works they should all be able to fold back into one. The last one remaining becomes the true body.

Might have changed a little with Manakajuice though

https://typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Natural_Born_Killers
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>>4869551
Agape goes to Medusa, restores her foundation to the goddess of Catalhoyuk and reconnects her to Humanity. Full Authority based on Truth, twin gremlins seethe even harder.
>the ultimate power
Prepare for Takehaya Susano'o.
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>>4869556
Jack is absolutely mogging hundred faces right now holy shit.
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>>4869559
Zayd was and always will be a shitter
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>>4869556
>>4869559
Be nice to Hundred Faces. Manaka could have unlocked rest of Zabaniya for her Hassan.
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>>4869561
Concept with al-Hakim to replace Hundred Faces with George Habash.
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>>4869562
No.
Fuck hundred jobbers.
Shit Assassin.
If Manaka knows what she's doing she'd have summoned a vorechad to feed him to so they get his noble phantasm.
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>>4869557
Mommy Tiamat please, please stop drinking. Think of the children!

Arete goes to Medusa. It fits her to a t. Agape goes to Medea. Her first life was ruined by Eros, Agape will make her second one a happy one.

>>4869559
Wait until you see what Manaka did to good ol' Hassan, anon. I bet he has a few surprises up his(their) sleeve.

It's a gold and honey trap
I've got for you tonight
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>>4869567
We're not using agape.
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>>4869566
>If Manaka knows what she's doing she'd have summoned a vorechad to feed him to so they get his noble phantasm.
All Vorechads defect to us. It is just natural order of things.
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>>4869574
That's just because we taste so good they immediately defect to be closer to us.
And QM says he's not a vorefag.
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>>4869569
Why?

Revenge it's a kiss, this time I won't miss
Now I've got you in my sights
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>>4869584
I don't like dark Sakura.
Dark Sakura is a mistake that has no business existing.
Dark Sakura is failure to protect Sakura.
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>>4869584
Because it's stupid and your song sucks
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>>4869588
Unbased retard.
>>4869587
All Sakura deserve to be saved.
Dark Ones especially.
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Speaking of doing fun things.
>Kur Kigal Irkalla - The Bellows of Kur that Tramples upon Ekur: A Rank Anti-Mountain Noble Phantasm
>An incredibly cost inefficient Noble Phantasm that requires a tremendous amount of Magical Energy to wield in the modern era. Without a frankly ridiculous amount of Magical Energy, using this Noble Phantasm would be an impossibility.
When this Noble Phantasm is activated, Earth crumbles and the terrain itself is altered, as a large area is dragged downwards towards the Underworld, where Ereshkigal's Authority is supreme. Within the Underworld, Ereshkigal's enemies suffer greatly while her allies are massively blessed.
>In the modern era, enough magical energy to 'create an Underworld' is required to use this Noble Phantasm.
Between Tamamo`s and Eresh`s overlapping Authorities and Alítheia`s Dragon form powers it should be possible to use this.
Add to it Medusa`s Shapeless Isle and Nero`s sippy cup to create all powerful underworld, empower anti-Evil aspects and CAGE powers of Eresh.
And by going deeper with it we will instantly connect to Imaginary Number Space and within it Para can make new ELIXIR. One that can be refined with Truth concept.
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>>4869591
well they won't be dark ones then anymore will they
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>>4869596
No.
But I would still love her even if she were dark.
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>>4869587
She is still Sakura anon. She is the Sakura that snaps after her smile wasn't protected, but she is still Sakura. How can you not like her?

And we almost made her cry this morning with the equality meme.

>>4869588
Cope

You'll never know the days, the nights,
The tears, the tears I've cried
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>>4869591
Who the fuck likes that coke head nigger?
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>>4869597
Exactly right anon. Still loving her even if she is dark, even when she believes herself to be soiled and unworthy and beyond redemption, this is how she can get her smile back.

You'll never know how it feels to be the one
Who's left behind
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>>4869600
Men of impeccable taste who wish the protect the meek and downtrodden.
Cumbrain.
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>>4869597
fair

>>4869598
>She is still Sakura anon. She is the Sakura that snaps after her smile wasn't protected, but she is still Sakura. How can you not like her?
Probably because at that point I'm either dead already, or wishing I were because when she snaps she does horrible things to people.

Doesn't change that allowing her snapping in the first place is a failure.

>And we almost made her cry this morning with the equality meme.
was it equality or the emotional blackmail?
Regardless, yandere is a shit fetish to have. Sakura is great as she is.
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>>4869606
sakuranon why are you attaching song lyrics to your post

this isn't an early 2000s forum, you don't need cool banners and signatures linking to your myspace profile
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>>4869611
He's doing it specifically to irritate you.
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>>4869611
well tbf they are kinda creepily appropriate with the golden eye motif we now have
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>>4869609
I certainly agree that Sakura is perfect just as she is, and allowing her to snap is a failure. The greatest failure we could possibly make. We have to keep protecting that smile forever.

>was it equality or the emotional blackmail?
She accepted the harem and proposed becoming head wife on her own. Emotional blackmail with all her greatest fears was used by anons to batter her down and get her to accept the idiotic and unworkable equality. That was what almost made her cry.

>>4869611
Because it's funny just how much Goldeneye works as a song sung by Sakura to her Shinji. I'll stop when I no longer find it fun. Are you not entertained, anon?

You'll never know how it feels to get so close
And be denied
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>>4869616
Fag
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>>4869617
You will never feel the touch of a woman. kys khv

Goldeneye I found his weakness
Goldeneye he'll do what I please
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For more eye power.
>Erlang Shen
>The third-eye on his forehead does not have a fixed name, though its most popular name currently is "The Eye of Heaven" (天眼). It has the ability to differentiate truth from lies and see through deceptions and disguises. It may be used as an offensive weapon, being able to fire continuous, highly destructive blasts of light energy and/or divine fire.
Plays part in Journey to the West so Monke should have something to say about our eye.
Ajna is good concept for our other eye if we will ever go for it. It aligns with Second Magic and WhatIs mentioned that we would have gotten Mystic Eyes that would have allowed limited future sights if we rolled crit on Amethyst rolls.
>>4869611
He adds immersion to it since Fifth war takes place in 2004.
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>>4869618
>You will never feel the touch of a woman. kys khv
Do you think Sakura would appreciate using this kind of attacks?
Telling someone to kill themselves because you think they have never felt love?
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>>4869620
He's seething bc he knows sakura will never be real
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>>4869616
I still say we make her Headwife.
I doubt anybody in the harem would mind sisterwife being in charge.
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>>4869616
Ye are even cringier than i am and that's saying something
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>>4869619
you mean literally give ourselves a third eye or just discuss the similarities with Monke? Because I'm not sure how far we should be going with self modification...

>>4869621
neither will anything else of this. Can we stop seething at each other and go back to enjoying the story?
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>>4869621
Even a fictional character has a more solid basis in reality than your chances of ever being touched by a woman, Virginboy.
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>>4869625
Buck
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>>4869626
That's right, you are.
Lil' virgin buck boi boutta take the buck breaker.
Yeehaw.
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>>4869627
Oof
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>>4869628
That's the noise you'll be making upon being rectally ravaged, yes.
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>>4869629
Ouch
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I'm expecting continuous eye ripping to not work out for the same reason we can't use puppets or be in multiple places. It wouldn't be our True eye which actually sees.
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>>4869633
Plus it's stupid
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>>4869620
Sakura is more forgiving than I am, anon. That's batman. He's a cancer in this quest, and I don't know why he's still being tolerated.

>>4869622
I certainly agree. I tried as hard as I could to make that happen back then. But this is a mistake we can still fix as soon as our loved ones' lives stop being in danger. For now, we have more important things to deal with.

>>4869623
Batman AND the cringiest namefag don't like this? I'm never stopping now!

And it was good to see you working together with everyone and trying to think of ideas to protect the people we care about. Oh, no. Wait. You bailed when the going got tough, you pussy.

>>4869624
I am certainly enjoying things right now anon. And I agree we shouldn't turn ourselves into a monster.

>>4869629
You are the best, anon

>>4869633
Still worth a try. We don't lose anything even if it doesn't work, the eye will just grow back.

It's a gold and honey trap
I've got for you tonight
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>>4869631
That's right.
Keep fantasising about all that pain as you take my girth, Buckman.
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>>4869638
Cringe
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>>4869641
Buckman, it's time for your breaking.
You gon' be the submissive lil' bitch you always knew you were meant to be.
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>>4869638
I only fight for the pokèmon collectors and those who are too afraid to speak up for their waifu what happens to the rest of the cast is up to the other players.
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>>4869647
You should change your name to Gary. He was the cowardly asshole who didn't care if his pokemon lived or died. The real Ash was better than that.

Revenge it's a kiss, this time I won't miss
Now I've got you in my sights
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>>4869647
Ash Cringem, you sounding awful lot like Buckman samefagging.
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>>4869651
But i am the real Ash? Also i think you're confusing gary with paul.
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>>4869654
Yikes
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>>4869655
>>4869656
Classic mobile fag trick.
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>>4869655
You're right. I'm sorry. You're not Gary. You're Team Rocket. They were just as retarded as you are.

But now my time has come
And time, time is not on your side
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>>4869658
No
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>>4869654
Me and batman are different people but we fight for the same cause. Thou should have their eyes checked.
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>>4869661
What's the matter Buckman?
Watch how he recoils.
"I've been caught."
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>>4869662
Samefag.
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>>4869663
He (or rather it) does have a history of samefagging. That's what got Batman its name. Samefagging an "I am Batman" write-in for Shinji to say, a little before the hiatus. It was the only time in the quest when WhatIs rejected a winning vote, and batman seethed.

You'll never know how I watched you
From the shadows as a child
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>>4869664
Samefag
>>4869665
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>>4869666
Look!
He's panicked!
Scared!
He doesn't know what to do!
The KHV Samefag is terrified!
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>>4869664
>>4869665
Samefag
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>>4869666
>>4869668
We'll I'll be, never broken two bucks in one go before...
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>>4869667
Cope seethe dilate
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>>4869669
Be gentle with me.....
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>>4869670
Now now, I know being broken was hard for you, Buckman, but there's no need to start taking HRT to help you come to terms with things.
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>>4869673
>>4869665
Samefag
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>>4869677
Oh Buckman you so sussy.
You want the Buck Breaking Cock again?
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>>4869678
Why are you gay
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>>4869680
Nothing gay about breaking your buck, Buckman.
Now on your knees.
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>>4869681
Having sex with men is gay poltard
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>>4868884
>>4869490
Support

Fuck off batman. No one likes you.
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>>4869682
Then I guess you're gay, buckboi.
Now quit your whimpering.
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>>4869684
Samefag
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>>4869686
Samefag
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>>4869684
I like batman i think he's a cool dude
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>>4869688
Same fag
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>>4869690
You're a fag but we're not the same, samefag.
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>>4868884
Use pure eyes
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>>4869689
Where does this self-esteem come from?
I'm amazed you have any at all.
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Some more interesting stuff.
Our Pure Eyes shares gold color with
>Gold - Color representative of the demonic. Arcueid Brunestud's eyes turns into this color. Also, Nero's eyes were depicted as golden.
Which is also color of our Truth. And that`s plays into our Bajiquan as Li Shuwen possesses Intersect of Yin-Yang skill and Yellow color of our new eye plays into Chinese color values as it represents Yellow Dragon, Yin/Yang balance, stabilizing effects and change of seasons.
Funny enough Japanese etymology for its Heavenly Stem of it is
Etymology 2
土 (Tsuchi, “Earth”, one of the Five Elements) + の (no, attributive marker) + 兄 (e, “elder brother”)
Good for Sakura, I guess. Descending to Earth elder brother.
But going back to Niggermans`s >>4868913 Yellow color in Chinese culture takes place of central element and balances other. While Japanese analogue of color system is Godai which is central element of Book of Five Rings. So, you have Yellow Dragon as Fifth element of Chinese system which was replaced by Void in Godai. And Void is significant part of Grand Saber Miyamoto Musashi-sama powers and her Heavenly Eye. Expect we have dragon crying in the distance instead of eagle. And her using those powers to trash Chaos were pick japwank and something our new eye is close to. Since our Reality Marble aligns in it`s effect to Musashi being able to pull those things to affect reality around her.
>>4869624
Ajna fits for that our Mystic Eyes could have been so I just voicing it as an interesting option for them.
I don`t think we need to discuss the similarities with Monke but rather I expect Wukong to pick on them since Wukong is rash, kind of dumb and suspicious of us.
Self-Modification would be very useful skill for us to have but I don`t suggest rushing it. Or at least try to start slow with something like unmanleting ourselves.
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>>4869701
>So, you have Yellow Dragon as Fifth element of Chinese system which was replaced by Void in Godai.
As far as I know Void is usually equated with Metal.
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>>4869704
In Wu Xing there isn't anything like a fifth, first, third etc element. Being a cycle with no end or starting point is part of the feature.
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>>4869704
>>4869714
You are thinking about other system of japanese and chinese elemental classification since Musashi uses Godai which has Earth, Water, Fire, Wind and Void. First four are classical four and which represented all across most of classifications. You can rank Yellow to Earth in those systems though as it is correct reading. But it falls down to which system you want to go with and you can`t really go with Wuxing for Musahsi. But Metal pretty much have similar cultural connotations but moves few pieces around so you get no funny dragon connections and it is further from proper conceptual synchronism you can pull or shill for in terms of Reality Warping with Truth as World will resist you more the more foreigner idea we are trying to do. So, piggybacking of established things will yield us faster advancements as long as it can aligned properly.
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I am probably brainrotting at this point with eyeutism anyway.
But as another fun thing to do it would be quite something to use Pure Eye of Truth on TATARI.
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>>4869722
>it is further from proper conceptual synchronism you can pull or shill for in terms of Reality Warping with Truth as World will resist you more the more foreigner idea we are trying to do.

Earth definitely does not go with reality warping weird alien bullshit. If you take it as the Center, then its more due to being yin-yang neutral, where the middle of the pole is, and the transition between yin and yang. But that does not make it change, that makes it stability.

Metal works as either the source of intellect as it gathers water (phase of intellect, wisdom, calm and extremity of yin) or the direction of West, with all the Kunlun and Xiwangmu bullshit, both of which work better for that.

All elements are more phases, so the cycle itself would be change, no single element.

If you go with Godai, Void IS the "bullshit" one usually, but thats not due an association with Earth or dragons.
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>>4869743
Also, Metal is air/breath which is also chi, as the typical sign of Metal is an empty bowl, the emptiness corresponding to both Void and air.
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Dead quest
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>>4869749
Buck.
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>>4869750
Sneed
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Based mod banned the retarded underage namefag lmao.
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>>4869753
They do it for free
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>>4869743
>>4869748
Yes, I jumped the gun with switching from martial arts bajiquan route to lets-drill-our-way-to-Musashi-bullshit on the fly. Should have stayed on one or the other.
But we could theoretically make sword (metal (Jin)) out of void (ether (Ku)) to try to tap into east-west elemental classifications. But that is sounds like a talk we need to make with Rin and Shirou.
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>>4869765
If we try to syncretize Wuxing Metal and Western elements for bullshit, we can just turn towards Gold.
As the iconic element of Metal and the symbol of spiritual perfection and God in alchemy, making it have connections to the western conception of Heaven instead of the usual Ether element, while having a more dirct connection to east-west.

This make sense?

So Gold as an intersection as Sora-Ku(Heaven/Void) Jin(Metal and all the other lightning and void stuff) and western Aether through alchemic perfection?
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>>4869783
Since you asked so nicely

>>4868884

>Direct Betty to squash every Jack hiding on the ceiling with her Mystic Eyes.
>Tell Chiyome where they are at they same time.
>Let Medusa know as well, so her eyes can turn them to stone.
>Warn everyone the Jack's are waiting for the fog to come in.
>>4869210

>Have somebody deal with the Fog (Arc)
>>4869242

>Combat autism, read the post for details
>>4869490
>>4869492
>>4869495
>>4869496
>>4869498
>>4869684

Use pure eyes
>>4869692
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>>4869771
So, we get Shirou`s UBW a nice concept and ask him to make Sword which can hold two concepts. Us and Rin help him with it. It will be something close how they make Jeweled Sword Zelretch in FSN. Golden Sword which has close ties to Second with concepts of Metal/Sword and Emptiness/Void/Heaven/Śūnyatā?
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>>4869786
If you want to fuck with Sunyata/add it, then just ask Tamamo. As Amaterasu also equals the Vairocana Buddha who is the primordial buddha who is the emptiness at the center of all phenomena, and shes connected enough to get a treasured light halo like a buddha.
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>>4869786
Two concepts, or a singular of Gold is good. Either a duality of structure that holds ephemeral(metal-gold) and ephemeral-divine or a singular Gold that connects all of it.
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>>4869790
>>4869797
I would imagine Rin helps Shirou just enough to tap into bits of Second and we give him idea behind conceptual Sword. He makes Golden Sword after being loaded with alchemical knowledge and theoretical ideas and we concept end result with Duality/Multiplicity. The exact extra concepts aftwerwards depends on end result of these first manipulations.
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>>4869808
Do concepts which are one term but multiple words work? Sword of "Heaven and Earth". But thats some ultra brain level concept that needs retarded amounts of preparation and things.
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>>4869819
For starter it should be forged in Imaginary Number Space to avoid influence from World? We haven`t tried that in english but other languages that have loaded word worked so fat so we need that sword to be made in style of such concepts if we go that way. So, jian or katana? As a general direction.
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>>4869825
There is tiandi 天地 "heaven and earth" and tenchi in japanese for the same characters. Maximum effort would be to find a word for sword or something like that with similar characters or sounds but thats too much for me right now.
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So we ARE going to adopt Jack right?

Also WhatIs, chances of Bunyan showing up?
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>>4869897
Yes
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Do people still want Sakura to vore her so Tiamat can give birth to her?
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swimsuit hag
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>>4869988
>hag
t. Jason
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Oh god i missed a lot.
Good to see Jack again.
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>>4870050
Glad to have you back
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>>4870052
Well, the QM was dead so i just forgot about this for a day or two.
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>>4870050
JackS
plural it would seem
we finally get to adopt over a dozen orphans at once
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You touch the back of your hand, activating the mental communication sticker and speaking mentally. 'Mordred. Karna.' You call to the two who are most prepared to deal with this assault as you try to avoid making it clear that you're aware of their presences. 'There are more than a dozen of those Assassins clinging to the roof, and hundreds if not thousands more outside. I need you two to protect Tamamo, Chiyome and Medea, as well as anybody around you. We're dealing with a swarm of Assassins with Presence Concealment Ranked A++, with the ability to always get the first strike even when dropping out of stealth to attack. The only way to avoid this is through what Karna and Mordred did for me! You all need to watch each others backs!' You inform everyone of the threat, or... well, everyone with access to the Tamamaphone network, at least... You feel like that name does it a disservice.

'Understood! This is why you're my advisor!' Mordred cheerfully responds through her own link, and her expression changes from anger at you being attacked to confidence in your plan. You're glad that she has so much faith and trust in you, though you... can't really think of any reason why she wouldn't have that trust. It's not really like you've ever done anything to let Mordred down, even when you applied her concept to her, you gave her the strongest possible concept you could've applied at the time, and if you had even attempted to apply another concept on the level of Time to Mordred, you wouldn't have had the advantage of being looped in time over and over again to gather the magical energy needed. Karna doesn't say anything, but you know he heard and is prepared to take action himself.

'OK! Arcueid! Arturia! I want you to disperse that fog! If it reaches us, then the Assassins will be able to fight at their full strength and we'll be weakened! I'm sure of it!' You don't know if Invisible Air by itself will be enough, but-
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"Finally." Arcueid steps forwards, a huge smile on her face as she does. "I've had enough of holding back my power, and this is the sort of situation where I can finally show you just what I'm capable of." The atmosphere in the room seems to change, as Arcueid smiles widely. "Take a good look, Satsuki! This is my Marble Phantasm!" Arcueid smiles at the younger vampire, before she suddenly rapidly raises her arm to the sky and a huge gust of wind blows the fog back out of the room and into the night once again with such force that the open window and the wall around it are completely reduced to rubble in moments, but... that's not all. The wind that Arcueid is manipulating, you notice blood drops spilling from the ceiling, stray arms, heads, torsos and legs falling to the ground before dissipating into wisps of shadow upon impact. She's... using her Marble Phantasm to kill all the Jacks that are in the room?! You knew that she was powerful, but... there's not a single one of them left! Could she somehow see through their presence concealment upon activating her Marble Phantasm?

In just a moment, Arcueid slaughtered every single one of the Servants threatening you all, with an attack perfectly targeted towards them alone. Not a single injury being accidentally dealt to one of your allies. So... this is the power of her Marble Phantasm? Looks like she's really had just about enough of losing from taking her opponents too lightly, and you're glad for that. Getting to see just what Arcueid can do with fifty percent of her true power should be quite a sight, after all. She's been losing so much recently that you kind of forgot just how powerful she actually is...

"OK! We've got a moment to gather ourselves now!" You shout out, thanks to Arcueid's dealing with the Assassins on the roof, as well as blowing the fog back out of the building, you have a great deal more time to prepare yourself for the next few attacks that might be headed your way from outside your home. You should be able to put an end to this battle if you could go and fix your bounded field, but you have no idea how bad the damage to the core of the system is right now, and how long it would take to repair it either. Still, you have a few ideas on how to proceed now, and one idea that should give you a great deal more time as the Jacks outside are too distracted to even make any moves. Everyone has their attention trained on the outside, and both EMIYA and Karna are taking potshots into the fog outside in order to strike whatever that they can. Atalanta is seemingly in too much emotional distress to properly respond to anything happening around her right now, and is shivering as she stands in a corner, too shocked to know what to do in the face of this situation. Gilgamesh is clearly annoyed now, but has yet to take any actions.
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'Medea! I need you to summon as many familiars as you possibly can! Wyverns or something! We need to distract the Assassins on the outside!' You mentally command the woman, who doesn't even respond as she immediately starts to wield her magic, causing a great deal of winged beasts to seemingly materialize from nothingness and stream out of the window... or well the hole that now occupies the space that used to be a window.

"Alright! Now we just need to-" Your words are interrupted, as through the wall another enemy suddenly appears, a tall black armor clad knight moving to attack you with terrible speed and strength! Lancelot! Manaka hasn't learned her lesson yet then? You don't even get to respond before a red blur of speed appears in front of you, clashing blades with the black knight.

"So! Lancelot! I've been thinking about you, actually! I was wondering how my strength compared to yours!" Mordred is actually somewhat cheerful as she confronts her old comrade, who simply roars at her and with a swing of his arms, sends her flying! Mordred quickly recovers from the attack, and adjusts herself in the air. "Hmph, figured as much." You back away from Lancelot, the girls behind you are clearly terrified by the appearance of the Black Knight.

[Status Updated!]

Then, Lancelot charges. But he doesn't charge at Mordred. Like you were expecting, or even you. No... He's charging at Alítheia! He... He wouldn't?!

You can already see Mordred moving to intercept the Knight, but you don't know if she'll be fast enough, you don't even know if you're fast enough!

>Form a sword out of Truth and intercept Lancelot yourself!
>Form a bubble around you and the girls!
>Tackle Alítheia away to the side!
>Use a Command Spell! (On who?)
>Write-in...
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Oh good. He remembers being killed.
I guess he's tired of jobbing so much.
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>>4870174
Form a sword out of Truth and intercept Lancelot yourself!
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>Personal Skills:
>Eternal Arms Mastery: A+
>A skill representing Berserker's status as the pinnacle of his era in swordplay, in technical skill, none could match him. His skill is to such a degree that there is no way for his prowess to be degraded. Not through madness or corruption.

>Slayer of Comrades: EX
>A skill that represents Lancelot's slaying of multiple of his fellow Round Table Knights. A skill that could be called a curse, provides extreme negative modifiers to anybody who either once served alongside Lancelot in life, or who is recognized as a Knight of the Round Table.

>Protection of the Grail: EX
>A skill formed through corruption of Protection of the Spirits. The Holy Grail is providing Lancelot with all of the Luck that he requires to automatically succeed any Luck check, but that Luck is taken from others.

>Counter-Hero (King): A
>A skill drawn from Lancelot's actions as the Knight who brought about the downfall of Camelot, and the eventual death of the perfect king, this is a skill that allows for perfect survival against any existence who would call themselves a 'King' or could be referred to as something equivalent. Their Noble Phantasms are sealed, their parameters are lowered, and the damage they can deal to Lancelot is reduced to a small fraction of what it would otherwise be.
>This skill has one drawback, in that it works against Lancelot if that Perfect King is his opponent.

So Mordred probably shouldn't fight him. Unless both her and Artoria count as a "Perfect King"
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>>4870198
Obeithion is even better match against him because HOPE.
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>>4870170
Oh no. We are in an illusion. Arcueid can't possibly be this competent.

JETS doesn't seem to like Alitheia very much. And his new charsheet is interesting.

>Berserker is now truly incapable of determining friend from foe
We can have Merlin illusion him and turn his aggro on his allies.

>provides extreme negative modifiers to anybody who either once served alongside Lancelot in life, or who is recognized as a Knight of the Round Table
Like Mordred

>The Holy Grail is providing Lancelot with all of the Luck that he requires to automatically succeed any Luck check, but that Luck is taken from others.
kek

>this is a skill that allows for perfect survival against any existence who would call themselves a 'King' or could be referred to as something equivalent
Like Mordred. And Alitheia. Manaka really fixed his weaknesses.

>This skill has one drawback, in that it works against Lancelot if that Perfect King is his opponent.
Alright, we need to tamamophone Artoria and tell her to step up.

>Thanks to this, it has lost its effectiveness against draconic beings, yet has instead gained a new affinity: One for slaying those who are aligned to good.
Like Mordred. Shit, how much did he nerf her? Is there an opponent worst suited to fighting him than Mordred?

>>4870198
THAT Perfect King, not ANY Perfect King. It's only Artoria.

>>4870205
Obeithion is not the Perfect King. She should help from afar.

So, my proposal:
>Form a bubble around you and the girls!
It's the only way to be sure.
>Tamamophone Artoria. She needs to help her daughterson fight JETS.
>Have Obeithion use her Noble Phantasm
>Have Medusa use her eyes to nerf him
>Have Betty use her eyes to nerf him
>Have Sakura use her ribbons to bind and delay him.

And follow the original plan if there's still time in the next update. Next step was
>Mentally contact Chiyome and have her apply Purification protection to Tamamo + work together with their shared magical arts to create a Purification zone using Tamamo's NP and whatever Chiyome has up her sleeve to make this work.
Tamamaphone:
>Tamamo, work together with Chiyome and use Eightfold Blessings to cover the house and surrounds with a boundary of purification.

Any problems I'm not seeing? Can anyone think anything else before I make it official?
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>>4870216
I'll second you only if we can kick that fucker in the dick for attacking our daughter.
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>>4870236
We'll need to take him down first anon. Kicking him in the nuts can wait, no matter how satisfying it may feel.
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>>4870236
If you want to hold a grudge against a mindless animal that can't diferentiate friend from foe, by all means.
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>>4870240
Ugh. Fiiiine, but when we have him on the ground, we're reenacting Chainsaw Man, and play a game of bust his balls.
>>4870174
Seconding this>>4870216
Unless Nig comes up with a better idea.
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>>4870216
Medusa can probably Breaker Gorgon him too.
Nobu will style on him quite easy too with her Noble Phantasms. Gil might really want to kill him too.
Other than that not really have anything to add.
>>4870236
If you really want to punch JETS down, we can make spider web like Truth net that cuts everything in touches. He charges right through it and comes out as mincemeat.
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>>4870261
That would be cool
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>>4870174
Alright, so here's the official plan

>Form a bubble around you and the girls!

>Tamamophone Artoria. She needs to help her daughterson fight JETS.
>Tamamophone Sakura. Tell her to have Obeithion use her Noble Phantasm while she uses her own ribbons to bind him.
>Tamamophone Medusa to use her eyes to nerf him
>Tell Betty to use her eyes to nerf him

>Mentally contact Chiyome and have her apply Purification protection to Tamamo + work together with their shared magical arts to create a Purification zone using Tamamo's NP and whatever Chiyome has up her sleeve to make this work.
>Tamamaphone:
>Tamamo, work together with Chiyome and use Eightfold Blessings to cover the house and surrounds with a boundary of purification.

Obi doesn't have a Tamamophone, we have to go through her Master to reach her.
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Can we not kill him? I though we were planning on restraining him and freeing him from her control.
Also, kicking him while he's insane will do nothing. Wait until he's sane again to kick him in the the dick.
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>>4870261
Can't have Medusa use both her Eyes of Petrification and Breaker Gorgon. It's either/or. Nobu will probably start blasting on her own, and so will Gil. Spider net seems like a really big risk for no gain. We can't risk even a hair of our daughters getting touched.

>>4870271
Who said anything about killing him? The plan is doing everything possible to nerf and restrain him.
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>>4870261
>>4870271
Fine, purge him so he's sane, but then we stomp him in the nutz
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Sweet, Arcueid got to show off how awesome she can be at last.

Now I'm paranoid about all the other enemies potentially involved here. Where's Morrigan? Is Monika going to pelt us more? What others are waiting to strike?
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>>4870286
Whenever Manaka sends Jets, Diarmuid is also there, so we should expect him to show up soon.
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>>4870289
Manaka's going to supercharge his charm so that it hits all the grills in the manor

ruh roh
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>>4870294
>Sakura, Sacchin, Tamamo, Medea and Medusa are unnafected.
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>>4870308
that cartoon hurts me desu
I hope he can catch a break, but not yet.
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>>4870279
Breaker Gorgon has advantage in that we could get just enough time to Rule Breaker him and dunk his head into Nero`s sippy cup.
But I don`t have anything better so
>>4870174
Supporting >>4870267

If eyes fail next update we can just let Beaky trash JETS.
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>>4870174
>>4870267
+1
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One update he will come back and just win this Grail War for us after we concept him with Divinity. No more jobbers just Betty`s magnum opus.
Castor can have some dumb meme concept to sync with his sister.

Speaking of abominations though. I hope Candle hasn't jobbed yet and vored at least Jack or two.
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>>4870174
>>4870267
Support
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Calling in 20
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>>4870174
Support >>4870267
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>>4870267
>>4870174
+1
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>>4869808
To pair with the GOLDCHAD sword, a rod or blade of pure conceptual Iron to absolutely dab on fae and the supernatural.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_in_folklore

Fuck faeries, fuck ghosts, also we could use it to locally contain souls that need to be ressed/cleansed in a pinch. But we can't risk making it until Monika is free or it gets used against us.
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>>4869917
(unbirth) (birthing)
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>>4870168
>didn't call them glowniggers
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I don't wanna kill Lancelot again bros
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>>4870415
But will that sword be better than the Sword of Truth?

>>4870426
We aren't killing him anon. We're nerfing him and having Sakura wrap him up.
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>>4870426
>>4870434
We may need to cut his limbs off but thats fixable.
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Eaten more queens than Lancelot
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>>4870308
It's a curse, Chiyome dabs on it, the purification boundary also nullifies it and HOPEchad cucks mental debuffs.
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>>4870434
It's a niche tool for niche jobs. True Iron gardening stakes for spiritual boundaries etc. clonking club for certain fights, Monika gains and anti spiritual item she can freely yeet with her powers.
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I was attacked by a ghost.
Somebody tally.
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>>4870468
Oh no. Do you need an iron sword?

>>4870174

Form a sword out of Truth and intercept Lancelot yourself!
>>4870196

>Combat autism, check post for details
>>4870267
>>4870339
>>4870361
>>4870367
>>4870380
>>4870386

>Early unofficial version of above combat autism
>>4870248
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>>4870468
Was she a cute abortion ghost?
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>>4870468
Did Manaka send Marshmallow man after you?
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>>4870468
Europe is cursed land that must be glassed to ward off ghosts
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If Tesla, as modern Zeus -> Susanoo decides to start shitting all over the floor of Tamamo!Amatersu's new palace zone we'll want to send Arc out to deal with her, seeing as she finally accepted unemployment and isn't jobbing.
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>>4870566
If Monika and the Serb incel in her head are here to eat Tamamo's barrier, it gives us a chance to deal with them. Original plan was Arc to shut down Electromagnetism, Mordred for muscle, and Ciel and SHIKI to restrain him. Mordred is busy, who else can we send?
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You haven't got the time to do anything else! In the fraction of a second you have before Lancelot reaches you, you hold your arm out and begin to create a bubble around you and the girls! You see the golden sheen of light in front of you just in time to block Lancelot, but before it can extend all the way around you, you feel a sharp pain in your leg before numbness spreads through it, and you stumble slightly. Your right foot was severed completely at the ankle, and the reason why is quite clear.

Sparks of electricity are arcing off a long thin bloodstained blade embedded into the floor, and your foot lies severed a few centimeters away from it. You don't make a sound, and the girls aren't even aware of the injury, thankfully. You don't want them to see you hurt and worry about you. You can ignore the pain of a missing foot, and correct your balance too, so you finish the bubble as you balance on a single foot, all the while gritting your teeth in pain as you do. The fact that you were missing a foot wasn't enough to make you falter on your barrier, if Monica was smart, she would've gone for your hand with the Tamamo Sticker and your Command Spells... or maybe she's still subconsciously holding back despite obviously being puppeteered?

You go to touch the sticker on the back of your hand, before you notice something... odd. Lancelot, after having his blade scrape uselessly along the side of the bubble, seems to have just... vanished entirely! It's not presence concealment either, the Pure Eye of Truth would've seen him if it were actually presence concealment, so could he actually be... gone? How?

"Everyone! Use whatever defensive abilities you have available to you! Now!" Suddenly Mordred yells out something that alarms the rest of the room to something that she must've seen coming, and not a second later than she yells out, does a rain of thousands of steel spikes obliterate the entire room, which becomes absolute chaos.

Gilgamesh has chosen to block the barrage with a collection of shields, choosing to also shield a few of the more vulnerable people who are unable to defend themselves as they stand behind him, you'll have to thank him for that later. Shirou and Saber are watching each others back, the two of them cutting the iron spikes that would hit the other out of the air before they reach their target, a battle style built upon absolute trust and faith in their partner.
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Almost everyone present in the room is kept safe either through being shielded by a floating shield from the Gate of Babylon, or through their natural abilities allowing them to deflect the unending rain of iron. The quantity is great enough that even Gilgamesh would likely have difficulty responding to them in terms of numbers alone, and while the projectiles of the Gate of Babylon are thousands of times greater than these augmented spikes of metal, it wouldn't serve to do anything but waste his weaponry, and seeing as Lancelot is around...? Yeah, he's not going to leave Noble Phantasms laying about.

"Somebody is going to have to kill the Servant behind this!" Nobunaga yells out, her voice hoarse and angry, the act of deflecting the steel spikes not being very difficult for her, but the unending torrent of metal is something that is impossible to retaliate against without actually striking against Monica herself.

>"No! You can't! She's being controlled! We just need to hold out!"
>"Medea! I'm going to drop the barrier! We'll take somebody else to confront her but we need to teleport to her location now!" (Who?)
>"Fine. Just... do it."
>"Satsuki! Your Reality Marble! Use it now! Drag everyone here inside of it!"
>Write-in...
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>>4870640
Satsuki! Your Reality Marble! Use it now! Drag everyone here inside of it!"
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jetkek never learns
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>>4870657
I mean, he's a berserker. Comes with the territory.
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>>4870637
There goes the mansion. And Lancelod CSed away the moment his attack stopped working? Manaka really isn't playing around anymore. And man, we owe Gil a lot for that. There'd be more than a dozen bodies on a floor without him.

Now, we can't kill Monica we can't drop the barrier and let the kids turn to mincemeat, and we can't use Satsuki's RM while Morrigan is around, ready to pounce. What we need to do is send out a squad to capture her.

Arcueid, Ciel and SHIKI were on the original plan. We need Mordred and her instincts here. Other than those three, we could send Vritra and Scathach, they are immortal too and won't be bothered by a railgun. And the original plan was to have Raiga shut down the power grid, but there's no time now. Karna should just blow it up to deprive Monica of power. So

>Send Arcueid, Vritra, Scathach, Ciel and SHIKI to capture Monica. Briefly explain Tesla's powers, ask Arcueid to use her Marble Phantasm to shut down Electromagnetism if she can. But we absolutely can't kill her!
>Have Karna snipe the power plant and plunge the city into darkness.

Anything else?
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Does Karna see who else is there with Monica, or do we need to scry for that? Cause she's unlikely to be exposed by her lonesome...
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>>4870694
It doesn't really matter. Whatever we do, we have to do it now. We can't waste an entire update on just gathering information and wait for Manaka to spring the next nasty surprise without countering this one.

Scrying definitely won't work either. He ate that last time we tried.
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>>4870699
true that. But then we need to anticipate Morrigan, Cu, whoever can be with her.
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>>4870705
All of the people I'm suggesting we send are immortal and powerful enough to deal with them. I can't think of anyone else we can send instead, or in addition to. Or anything else we could do. We certainly can't go there ourselves.
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Calling in 40
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>>4870640
Making >>4870668 official.
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Really RIP Fuyuki. About to nuke the powerplant with ancient indian nukes and we're not even close to ending the War
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>>4870640
Supporting >>4870668 but I think we should teleport them to Monica so she can't get away.
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>>4870728
Medea will have to go with them to tp them. She is not immortal. We can't risk our witch wife like that. They should be faster than the Serb incel anyway.
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>>4870637
>Shirou and Saber are watching each others back, the two of them cutting the iron spikes that would hit the other out of the air before they reach their target, a battle style built upon absolute trust and faith in their partner.
OH SHIT
HOLY FUCK
GUYS!
THEY'RE DOING...
THAT!!!
https://youtu.be/cV-uqvRgBG4
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>>4870640
Switch >>4870713 to

>Send Arcueid, Vritra, Scathach, Ciel and SHIKI to capture Monica. Briefly explain Tesla's powers, ask Arcueid to use her Marble Phantasm to shut down Electromagnetism if she can. But we absolutely can't kill her!
>Tell Obeithion to use her NP before they leave.
>Have Karna snipe the power plant and plunge the city into darkness.

>Alítheia, hold Betty's hand and support your sister with your powers, Betty, summon as many friends as you can that have combat capability and vision to see the unseen. Have them swarm and attack the enemies outside when you can
>Mentally contact Chiyome and have her apply Purification protection to Tamamo + work together with their shared magical arts to create a Purification zone using Tamamo's NP and whatever Chiyome has up her sleeve to make this work.
>Tamamaphone:
>Tamamo, work together with Chiyome and use Eightfold Blessings to cover the house and surrounds with a boundary of purification.

Wait a minute. We had more things that we wanted to do and we keep getting interrupted. Will we get the chance this time?
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>>4870739
KINO

>>4870749
Didn’t you just post this?

Whatever its probably a repost with the other one being gone by now
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>>4870753
Yeah, I fucked up a bit on the first one and deleted it.
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>>4870749
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>>4870739
kino
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Are we sure nuking power to the entire city is a good idea?
Seems kinda horrible and liable to kill tons of people.
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>>4870770
Monica converts electricity to mana. The fight gets a lot harder if we don't nuke the plant, and we have to put the lives of the people we care about ahead of those of some random nameless NPCs.
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>>4870773
No, that's an overreaction of the highest order. Like really? You want to send 5 people after her, including Arc and Vritra, and you STILL think they're not strong enough to handle her without nuking an entire cities power?
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>>4870770
>NOOOOOOO! NOT THE HECKIN' FACELESS BUGMEN NPCS! AAAAAAAA HOW WILL WE LIVE WITH OURSELVES KNOWING WE COMMITTED SUCH A HORRIBLE ACT OF TERRORISM!

my, it's just turning out the lights. If you die from that then you deserve to be culled. Hospitals have backup generators and will likely be one of the few places with electricity making them obvious targets for our enemies to keep the mana flowing thus allowing us to set up an ambush or a sneak attack. Not hard.
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>>4870770
not like the church can hate us more
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>>4870783
Have you SEEN what Tesla can do, anon? And we need Monica captured alive! I'd rather the whole city get nuked than let a single one of the people we care about get hurt.
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If Monika + potential backup isn't outright stomped we risk having her die. That's actual mental bad end material for Shinji.

Post de-blacking Monika can keep the lights on in a hospital anyway.
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>>4870788
>>4870787
>>4870784
I really believe the people you want to send are more than enough to restrain her.
I think this is an overeaction. Disagree if you want. I don't really care.
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Tally.
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>>4870811

>>4870640

Satsuki! Your Reality Marble! Use it now! Drag everyone here inside of it!"
>>4870650

>Early combat autism
>>4870728

>Revised combat autism
>>4870749
>>4870756
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>>4870812
votelets lmao
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>>4870795
Why take the chance? Arguably we just cut a few wires or whatever which is an easy fix once we get Monica back
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>>4870795
As long as we only take out the local power plant and leave the connection to the national power grid intact, the city won't be powerless forever. It'll take some time to start up backup power stations and redirect powerflow, but eventually the city would get power back. Places of importance will have backup diesel or gasoline generators that last them for days

Also we're not in a position to underestimate our opponents. That's how you bad end yourself for no reason.

Since we're low on votes I'll back revised combat autism >>4870749
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>>4870815
NOOOOOOO THE ANIME PREMIERES AHHHHHHHHHHH

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_in_Japanese_television
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>>4870820
What's the date again? I want to know if we cucked the japs out of Sonic X's ending or something delicious like that
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>>4870840
Rin summons Archer on 31/1 in the vn's prologue. Can't remember how much time has passed here since then. A week or so?
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"Arcueid, Vritra, Scáthach, Ciel and..." You hesitate for a moment, as you look at SHIKI, not wanting to reveal his name even in this situation. It's not your place to reveal such a thing, especially when neither SHIKI nor Akiha want Shiki to find out about his brother's continued existence. It looks like SHIKI has a very very long way to go before his younger sister will forgive him for what he did while under the influence of Roa and his natural Oni blood. It wasn't really SHIKI's fault at all, as to how things actually happened, but... you don't think that Akiha is going to be able to forgive him any time soon regardless. Maybe in a few years, it might be possible. SHIKI deserves to be able to be happy with his family too. "Immortal Boy!." It's not the best way to refer to SHIKI by, but you don't want Shiki to get confused by the phonetically identical name just because there's a tremendously dangerous situation. "Go and capture the woman attacking!" You bark an order out to the five immortals, they are your best bet at capturing Monica non-lethally.

Vritra isn't even bothering to dodge the projectiles, which bounce harmlessly off of her body, the natural toughness that she possesses as a dragon seemingly enough to just completely no-sell the weaker attacks. It's very much a quantity over quality attack. "Right!" Vritra keeps her response to your request short, but you hold out a hand to stop her before she can leap out of the room.

"Wait!" You command her, and she stops. "The woman, we absolutely cannot allow her to die, she's a dear friend of mine, being puppeteered by a spirit in her body and forced into doing actions that she would never ever even think about if she were in command of her own body. "Her powers are based on electromagnetism, and she has near perfect control over both metal and electricity, almost like that of a genuine God of Lightning." Honestly, even the normal Tesla is directly compared to Zeus, and this version has been given a perfectly compatible body in addition to whatever other boosts that Manaka thought it necessary to grant them. It's actually possible that with Monica's body alone, Tesla has had his power skyrocket from where it would normally be, not to mention that Monica's tactical knowledge combined with Tesla's great genius is far far more dangerous than just Tesla's genius alone. Of course, you're only assuming that it's Tesla, and you don't have a confirmation that it is, but you're really not seeing just who else it could possibly be at this point.
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"Alright, my dear rider. I'll ensure that your friend draws breath when we capture her." Vritra looks confident as she looks out into the night through one of the now totally destroyed walls at the direction of the attacks. Outside is a total mess right now too, dozens of wyverns each being climbed all over by the shadowy figures of the Jacks still outside. She's still just completely ignoring the metal spikes crashing into her body with enough force to instantly kill a normal person, she just doesn't care. Even Arcueid is being more careful, ensuring that she's not hit too much. While she's clearly not too worried about being hit, she doesn't have the benefit of true immortality like Vritra does, and speaking of true immortality, it looks like Ciel and SHIKI have both actually stopped caring about dodging, and are walking towards Vritra at their own pace, whenever a spike hits them and tears a hole in their body, their flesh just knits itself back together in the span of a few seconds anyway. Their natural regenerative abilities seem to be enough that both of them have just decided to ignore the damage, though it's not like neither of them feel pain, so they are dodging and deflecting the spikes that the can.

When all five of them are grouped together, you look at them again. "Medea! I need you to teleport this lot to the position that the attacks are coming from!" You yell over to the woman, who is surrounded in a shimmering armor of magical defense. That armor would usually be invisible to the human eye, but it seems like your new eye even works for seeing things such as that, not something you had imagined they would be able to do, but you certainly aren't going to complain about an unseen benefit like this arising. "Oh! Obeithion! Before they go! Use your Noble Phantasm, please!" You call over to the Fairy Queen deflecting the shots from Monica with her white Excalibur, and she looks over at you with interest.

"Very well!" She suddenly thrusts her sword into the air. "Everyone! I shall show you my dream for humanity! A fairy's dream for humanity! Hope of Camelot!' As she finishes the invocation, a pulse of energy emanates from her, and invigorates all that it touches, however, the energy of the pulse doesn't breach through the bubble you sealed yourself and the kids in, so you miss your chance at being empowered by it. Unfortunate, but... not the end of the world. Especially not when all of your allies are now defending themselves with a great deal more ease than they were before.

"Great! Now! Karna! I need you to snipe Fuyuki's main electrical power station! Plunge this city into darkness!" Karna nods, before he silently starts to take aim without any fanfare. Kavacha and Kundala meaning that he can be as nonchalant as he likes about the the damage being dealt to him, which after being reduced by his Noble Phantasm, isn't even great enough to overcome his natural endurance as a Servant.
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It doesn't take more than a few seconds for Karna to finish finding his target, and he lets loose an arrow. Ten seconds later, the few remaining functioning lights in the room turn off, and Fuyuki is plunged into darkness.

"Medea! Teleport them to wherever Monica is, right now!" You order the woman, tempted to use a command spell for the added speed, but you decide against it, for the sake of a second or two, it would just be a compete waste.

On your command, Medea does just that, quickly moving over to the rest of the attack group and... "Tροψα!" disappearing alongside them. There's really no other way to possibly catch Tesla, honestly. Them actually attempting to cover the distance by themselves would give Manaka far too much time to counter you, and you know that she's started to do things specifically to counter you now. Lancelot's existence is basically specifically designed to overwhelm Mordred with debuffs and negative modifiers. With any luck, the Tesla capture team will be successful.

The storm of metal ends a few seconds after your allies vanish to go and face off against Tesla, and once again, you've been given breathing room. With the storm of metal over, you see fit to disable the bubble of truth protecting you and the girls. Maintaining a bubble of truth of that size isn't exactly an easy thing for you to continue to do. It's a rather large draw on your magical energy just from minor uses of it.

"Now, Alítheia, I want you to hold Betty's hand for a second and grant her as much power as you can, OK?" Alitheia nods at you, and you turn to Betty. ".. As for you, Betty, I want you to summon as many of your friends as you possibly can to help out! But... they need to be able to see that which can't be seen, OK?" You make your request to the little girl, and she seems to be stuck on something...

"But... how large should I make them? Should I make one large one to defend everyone? An army of human sized ones, of a countless number of insects...?" Betty asks innocently, and she really is genuinely expecting an answer from you...

>A large creation.
>A group of human sized creatures.
>A swarm of tiny creatures.
>Write-in...
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>>4871041
BEEEEEEEEEES

But yeah, bunch of tiny things. Hard to keep track and smear all of them. Plus it's extra annoying and distracting to have a little insect thing buzzing around your face.
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>>4871041
>>4871061
You know what, yeah, supporting the, NOT THE BEEEEEEES meme.
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Was this the last update for today?
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>>4871077
he always sleeps around now so pretty safe to assume so
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>>4871098
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grayanotoxin

Eldritch honey, based.
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Dimensional shamblers, Nightgaunts or hounds of Tindalos?
Could ask for eldritch dragon-like creatures too.
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>>4871041
Godzilla sized
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>>4871211
Alítheia could do that immediately, what's the point?
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>>4871216
Whats not the point?
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>>4871231
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>>4871236
Dur I don't like beaky. Fuck off let him shine
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>>4871239
I'm literally concocting a plan with Beaky in it right now. Why make another one?
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>>4871236
Is that real?!
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>>4871244
Make him gojira
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>>4871244
>>4871249
Divinity Beaky.
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>>4871264
Same thing
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>Len, come here and hold onto Alítheia and close your eyes, you'll be fine avoiding yet another niggerman moment pre-emptively
>by my command spell, Betty, create a swarm of small, draconic creatures with a thirst for evil alignment mana. Have them be winged and able to see the unseen, with a shared mind.
>have some search the house for other intruders while the rest handle the enemies outside, with one or two left here with us to report back to us what is happening with their kin.
>also, Betty, summon Beaky to us right now!

>concept Beaky with 'Paladin'

Beaky - Paladin of Azathoth coming up.

Due to the blessing of dragons, any one who kills a dragon under our influence.. or ever actually gets fucked too. So if they squish any of these dragons or Medea's wyverns we dab on them:

>Blessing of the Queen of Dragons: A++
>A skill representing an incredibly close relationship to a great dragon on the level of myth. Allows for the riding of all dragons so long as the level of the Riding skill is high enough. Weaker willed dragons and wyverns will feel the urge to defend and obey the owner of this skill. Additionally, any attacks made against dragons or those who have slain or enslaved a dragon in their past will have the attack's rank raise by one level and bypass any forms of magical protection. If one has enough magical knowledge, summoning Dragons from the Reverse Side of the World becomes possible.
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>>4871296
Turning Beaky into a turbo-chad Paladin is the greatest idea in this thread and it has my full support.
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We'll make a set of eldritch maids later, after combat ends.
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>>4871041
Supporting >>4871296
Paladin is really solid pick since we will tap into several aspects of it for Beaky: trusted retainer, military commander, inspirational leader and holy warrior.
With Azathoth`s influence Beaky will be super boosted, easily Court of Azathoth level entity.

We should to that later with other Betty's summons to finally get proper maids serving us.
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>>4871266
Shinji, you gotta listen to, you gotta listen Shinji, you, you need to combine with Beaky, if we wanna win, get in Beaky Shinji, dooo it, no balls.
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>>4871296
Fuck yeah I'll support this
>>4871041
Changing from >>4871067
to Paladin Beaky, Bannerman of Shinji.
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ELDRITCH MAIDS
>>4871041
supporting >>4871296
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>>4871041
>>4871296
+1
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>>4871041
Support >>4871296
Yeah, Len was terrified of our dream. She'll even be spooked by sensing the abominations' presence. Hopefully she'll think what she can't see won't hurt her.

Beaky bravely defended us from Karna's arrows. He bravely stepped up to fight Cu on the stairs to Manaka's Temple and distinguished himself in an honorable duel. He's already a Paladin, and it's nice of us to confirm it.
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>>4871296
fuck

why haven't we given any concepts to the creations betty makes BEFORE this!?
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>>4871422
It's time to open the box, Anon.
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>>4871422
Because last time Betty made anything was before we started handing out concepts like candy. It took us a while to discover this power, and even more time to figure out the extent to which we could use it.
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>>4871422
Also because after getting daughterzoned Betty didn't really see combat. Now that she's one of the closest servants to us we can actually have her do her thing.
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>>4871425
>>4871426
>>4871427
tfw we can make a full on army of servant-tier beings and the clocktower ain't gonna know about this until it's way too late
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>>4871422
For the same reason why big part of our allies still don't have concepts. Little time and constant distractions. With some luck we will fix it tomorrow.
>>4871417
>stepped up to fight Cu
iirc he fought Diarmuid.
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>>4871430
Right, yeah. Just woke up, mixed up the names of the Irish Lancer jobbers.
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>>4871429
Concept Shoggoths with knights-like concepts. Kheshigs, Praetorians, Bogatyrs, Ronins, Persian Immortals, Knight-Errants.
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For extra flex on Manaka we can ask Betty to create assassin-like creature and concept it with Hashshashin concept and let it slay Manaka's Hundred Faces.
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>>4871041

>>4871061
Swapping to >>4871296

Dragons > BEES since they don't die when sting. Plus they're dragons and what's cooler than dragons? Invisible dragons. Ez pick.
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Probably want to re-attach the foot soon too. speed up the heal process. A few aria lines once we stop talking would help too. Have we already directed Tamamo/Chiyome to make the purification boundary yet?
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>>4871512
Yeah, hopping around in the middle of combat will be awkward. Not sure we should reveal our full Aria to Manaka for the regen, she shouldn't know about it yet. Medea taught us a new healing trick just a few minutes ago, it should do the trick well enough. Just a couple lines to buff our spellcasting should be enough. And really, we should get in the habit of always doing that. There is not drawback to just reciting the first line every time we cast a spell, we just keep forgetting.

And no, we STILL haven't gotten around to the Tamamo/Chiyome part of the plan. Our first turns were spent just countering Manaka's moves, Betty's abominations are the first proactive move we're doing this fight.
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>>4871521
hopefully the chain of events stays implied unless there's such major disruption they'd made pointless
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>>4871527
I keep adding them to the bottom of my write-ins, just in case.
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>>4871041
gonna amend
>>4871296
a little and make it also include reattaching Shinji's foot, and maybe change thirst for evil to seek out the most evil presence in the vicinity?
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>>4871041
Adding to >>4871417
Support >>4871567
Foot is a bit important, and thirst for evil was not the best idea when most of our allies are evil themselves.
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>>4871527
I would imagine Beaky will get to clash with JETS and irish jobber almost right after we give him concept.
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>>4871571
Going off JETS and Jack's stat pages I assumed their Evil energy is stronger so they'd be a priority target, but some jobberproofing is helpful.
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>>4871457
Swapping to >>4871567
Gotta appease the footfags. Bleeding to death would also be a dumb dead end
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>>4871041
support >>4871567
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>>4871041
>>4871567 adding to >>4871332
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>>4871574
JETS and Jack aren't in the room. The closest targets will be people like Atalante and Sasaki. We'd probably be able to control the dragonflies and send them away, but yeah it's a distraction we don't need.
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>>4871589
>You go to touch the sticker on the back of your hand, before you notice something... odd. Lancelot, after having his blade scrape uselessly along the side of the bubble, seems to have just... vanished entirely! It's not presence concealment either, the Pure Eye of Truth would've seen him if it were actually presence concealment, so could he actually be... gone? How?
Manaka's teleportation powers has to be kept in mind. JETS could be back soon.
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>>4871296
>>4871041
+1
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>>4871041
With >>4871567 too
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>>4871601
Mo will sense it.

Jobbing has been toggled off for this fight on both ends
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>>4871614
So, we keeping Mordred close for the rest of fight and set up anti-spatial interference for whole house after? I would rather avoid sharing Merlin's fate.
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>>4871621
Yes, that's why we didn't sent her to capture Monica as was the original plan. Mordred is the only one around who can warn us about Manaka's next move. anti-tp measures should wait for until after Medea and the others come back.
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>>4871296
>>4871567
>>4871041
Supporting this.
I wonder if he'll become a humanoid.
Bloat more fampai.

>>4871321
Based.
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We'd technically be still wearing the Babylonian friendship bangle seeing how we treated it last time, no?
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>>4871447
Wouldn't this be an excellent way to get King Hassan to summon himself to cut off it's head?
>it just grows a new head.
The future is now, old man.
>>4871429
Clocktower canonically get shredded by wormpa, two average casters and a single member of the cunny legion surrounding our house.
Atlas get dominated by 1 divine spirit bodyjacking Arturia's body.
Both are non-threats.
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>>4871638
Medea teleported us to the Argo. We should have automatically put it back on after that, but we might have forgotten again.
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>>4871639
No concept of death, we have a chat with YHWH before hand to make sure it's bell never tolls.

King reddit just keeps trying to chop it to no avail.
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>>4871646
I wonder how hard he'd ree.
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https://youtu.be/evx03InA36Y
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>>4871654
We can also summon False Hassan, tell her "It's OK babe Allah sent me." And then give her the Assassin/Hashashin concept.
Instant loyaltychad zealot.
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>>4871661
Apostle of Truth
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>>4871663
Our glownigger organisation will be the brightest star in the criminal underworld.
Who is the head?
Chiyome?
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>>4871669
First and best ninja. Zealot is a bit of a jobber, she has a big bag of tricks but no speciality. I'd probably give her a variant of Mastery, Amalgamation or Originality if she ever were to be a regular character so she could either use all the Zabaniyas at maximum output, or synthesise her own.
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>>4871661
>>4871663
Give her Nabiyy or Rasul.
We are collecting team of Savers.
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>>4871676
Zealot is weird in that some of her Zabaniyas are higher output than even the originals and some are weaker, I guess based on her compatibility with them, or that some at turbo output wouldnt be good.
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>>4871678
Pretty kino.
Assassin of Mercy - an actual angel of death, Michael and also Nightingale syncretism meme in that mix too.
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>>4871678
Is Angra getting Saoshyant?
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>>4871683
Angra is getting Nero's juices.
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>Saoshyant
Haven't dug too deep into Zoroastrian terms but that's pretty up there.

>the Avestan language expression that literally means "one who brings benefit", and which is used in several different ways in Zoroastrian scripture and tradition. In particular, the expression is the proper name of the Saoshyant, an eschatological saviour figure who brings about Frashokereti, the final renovation of the world in which evil is finally destroyed. The Saoshyant will prepare for them white haoma, the ritual drink of the Zoroastrians, which will bestow eternal perfection on their bodies

My hands are clapping on their own
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>>4871683
I can see it working. Problem with Angra is that he was vored by Manaka so if we can extract him in good enough form to concept it would pretty solid move.
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It's hilarious to me that Jets showed up, got no-sold and instantly disappeared.
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>>4871687
If we can't extract Angra or he gets turned into an actual pure Divine Spirit we can just slap Saoshyant on L.Manaka.
Devouring Angra is not that different from being Angra, if hes all curse.
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>>4871685
also, when we get a chance we should concept the giant tuna we ordered for dinner with Knowledge, and then give those we want big brained a bite. Make the Bluefin Tuna of Knowledge to dab on Fionn's tiny little cuckfish.

>>4871688
He does this all the time. He'll be back.
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>>4871669
There is no one better than or loyal Ninja of Truth. She even has experience running a spook organization.

>>4871681
iirc, she replicated their effect from what she imagined them to be. So it's a combination of compatibility and her knowing the exact Truth about how they worked.

>>4871683
Why should we not just put him out of his misery?

>>4871688
alas, JETS's fate is to job and disappear. Even when buffed to the gills. He left before just the real no-selling started anyway, he was about to get nerfed and captured.

>>4871692
kek
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Abby + tuna of Knowledge = instant early silver keyblade powers. Honestly, the kids probably benefit the most from it. Especially if it's within an active zone of Amaterasu's 8fold blessings with Purification applied to it. Purified Knowledge, no evil present to avoid recreating a Sin based food item of knowledge. Maybe marinade it in sippy cup juice first too?
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>>4871697
>Why should we not just put him out of his misery?
Because he's both based and human Angra dindu nuffin wrong.
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>>4871700
Or maybe we shouldn't be trying to cheat and blow our kid's minds with knowledge beyond knowledge? They still have all their childhood to grow and learn.

>>4871701
That's not human Angra though. That's All the World's Seethe and Cope in an unborn god form.
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Meme concept foods
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When this war is over we should assassinate the entire US Government all at once just to dab on their gay magical glowniggers.
All officials get stabbu'd in one night.
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>>4871705
Just wait for based Billy to dab on Obama live and get elected President. It'll be kino.
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>>4871703
Just give him some of Nero's juices from her cup.
Should turn him back into a random Persian kid.
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>>4871707
Does dabbing on Obama live involve Billy giving a SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED lesson to him?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salmon_of_Knowledge

So turns out the salmon was made from a seer who was a relative of Noah. Could probably pull out some Eucharist/Holy memes with concept food honestly.

>>4871705
Pre-empt Spooky Hassan?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqBw3H_Ik3s

GUN
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>>4871713
Can't we concept Chiyome? We just purified her Orochi curse, we didnt really apply anything to her own concept, I think? Or are those two things basically the same?
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>>4871689
Unless this heals her of all mental afflictions we are super fucked if it works.
>>4871704
Concept apples with Knowledge.
And random box with Pandora.
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>>4871716
I think it was one and the same, being a bloodline curse it was entwined with her existence itself
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>>4871705
Also Israel isn't looking nearly glassy enough. Karna could assist.
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>>4871712
Pretty much, yes. It'll be fun to watch.

>>4871713
Really? The salmon that gave Fionn his knowledge? The same Fionn who
>On one such hunt, Diarmuid was gored by a magical wild boar's fangs, but felt no fear due to there being a well of spring water nine steps away from which Fionn could produce healing water. Despite him being on the verge of death, Fionn could not forget his anger, so he managed to spill water from his hands during the first two attempts to bring Diarmuid the water. As of his third attempt to scoop water, Diarmuid passed away from his wound.[3]

>This dispute eventually caused the glorious order of knights to collapse.[2] After this incident, many of Fionn's subordinates were disappointed and provoked by this event, and before long, the Knights of Fianna divided into two sides, causing a war where Fionn lost his life in the middle of the conflict.

That Fionn?

>>4871719
Yeah, pretty sure it was. It changed her into the Assassin of Truth and even overwrote her version in the Throne. That's exactly how Concepts work.
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>>4871717
>concept box with Pandora.
>a Loli jumps out.
Cool.
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>>4871723
Truth is better. Also, knowledge isn't wisdom. Salmonmeme maxed INT. they still need to grow and experience/develop as people which is fine. Giving them Wisdom as children cucks them to becoming emotionless logical autistic robots. Knowledge gives them gigabrain and seeing all possibilities, they still need to learn which one to pick.

Also, imagine not killing the guy who cucked you.
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>>4871725
He chose the most beta way possible to kill him. He should have just been upfront about his seethe and killed Diarmuid himself instead of going " I forgive you, but whoops, just gonna randomly spill the water that would heal you, no biggy".

And all knowledge with no wisdom? THAT's what turns the kids into autistic nerd robots. Are you so bored that you want to skipchad their entire childhood, nigga?
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>>4871722
Can't wait for Nobu to conquer the Chinks.
Imperial Japan is back babyyyyyy

Also, if Billy x Obei happens I wonder if people will start getting curious as to why the First Lady of the US, the Empress of Rome and the king of Britain and both of her parents are all identical.
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Imperial Japan is a shithole
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The odds of us taking Abby for the cosmic journey she needs to be able to suppliment the lack of Yog's presence inside her are near non-existent. We need catalyst to properly kickstart her use of her Silver Key powers, she's currently basic bitch human and probably the most vulnerable person in the room right now despite her potential.

>>4871728
It's simply the best aesthetic, as per the illustrator's preference. It has in universe grounds :^)

>>4871729
t. dog eater goreen
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>>4871734
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731
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>>4871728
I'm now shipping Obi as the First Lady of the US too. The Amerimutts need some Hope for the future, and President Billy and his fairy waifu will give it to them.

Nobu's constant war with Iskandar over central Asia will be a fun way for both of them to pass the time.

As to why the are identical? They're NPCs, they'll believe whatever the fuck we tell them. IF they even think to ask.

>>4871729
chinsect hands wrote this post

>>4871734
Nigger, our Abby doesn't have Yog inside her, and she never will if we have anything to say about it. Her Silver Key powers are innate to her and they can be trained. We promised to train her, in fact. She is a normal human yes, but we're learning Truth Item Creation asap, and we'll kit her out in anything we can to make her as durable as her sisters. Overloading her mind with infinite shitty knowledge is no way to treat a daughter.
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>>4871734
Our best bro Alan can teach her.
He can also tell his retarded Nephew to fuck off if he starts shit .
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>>4871737
Just a lumber factory, cateater.

>>4871738
Reread what I said. She doesn't have Yog, we're offering her a gift as a boost to help compensate. She won't get the whole thing either, Fionn ate the whole fish + had it concentrated into the oil on his thumb. A small piece as a boost is like being gifted a fistful of INT points for free.
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>>4871737
Rape of Nanking is Chinese Propaganda.
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>>4871741
I skipchaded your second post nigger, figured it was just a typo like usual. Still, she can be trained to master her powers properly, and that's what we should do. IF in ten years she decides she wants this, then we should do it. But only then. She's too young for that decision right now, and she only gets one childhood. But we shouldn't permanently change our kids just because it'll make things easier for us. It's like medicating with adhd meds just to get them to behave, or cutting a kid's dick off just because.
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https://youtu.be/WHsGO8a8WOE
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>>4871729
This one will not be. Heroic spirits have more integrity than mortal sovereigns.

Although I do foresee there will be conflict in map painting.

And there will probably be people turning against us with every atrocity we commit or abet, since we seem fine with genocide and thoughtcrime policing as long as we aren’t told any names.
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Counter Guardian NTR is such an interesting ID
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If we do go to do the Singularities and Lostbelts should we save Zolgen in London?
He's pre Grail War and still mostly free of sin, we just have to remive his Demon Pillar so he stops cucking to Goetia.
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>>4871750
Don’t forget the “tg” part while you’re at it
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Would Nobunaga mind if we built a big wall around China to stop anyone leaving and turned it into a reservation for all of our man-eater allies to live in?
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>>4871755
Do you think that we'll need to make farms?
Or will the chinkoids reproduce quickly enough that them being vored is sustainable?
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>>4871758
Looking at the stats, for Voreland China to be naturally sustainable without farms in 2004, we'll have to limit the vorechads living there to eating 7.6 million changs a year.
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>>4871755
Also India
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>>4871761
The elderly will of course be more likely targets.
Male and Female will both be eaten no preference.
Pregnant women will be rendered exempt.
Children won't be.
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>>4871762
Karna won't like that.
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>>4871765
He'll get over it.
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Really liked new Lostbelt?
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>>4871766
Kinda doubt that.
Wukong meanwhile won't give a shit about Vorechad China.
Will probably make her feel more at home.
>>4871770
I want to give Barghest a nice place to live when we summon her.
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>>4871774
Sorry, poo in loos don't deserve to live
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>>4871781
Neither do you, paki.
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Tally?
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>>4871845
Here you go

>>4871041
>A swarm of tiny creatures.
>>4871098

Godzilla sized
>>4871211

>Early combat autism
>>4871372
>>4871376
>>4871387

>Amended combat autism
>>4871296 + >>4871567
>>4871571
>>4871579
>>4871582
>>4871587
>>4871607
>>4871626

>>4871296 combined with >>4871567 wins.

ENTER
Paladin Beaky!
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>>4871728
Just say it's Merlin's fault. No one can question that claim.
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>>4871755
>>4871758
>>4871761
>>4871763
Based and FUCK CHINApilled
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>>4871729
Two bombs weren't nearly enough
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"Len. Come here and hold onto Alítheia for a moment, and... also close your eyes, OK? You shouldn't worry even if you feel something wrong, because Alítheia will protect you, right, Alítheia?" You ask your firstborn daughter, who looks at you with determination on her face. Len herself looks quite scared by what's going on, the girl might have quite a lot of potential to be strong, but seeing as she's currently linked to Arcueid right now, who is for some reason incapable of sharing her magical energy with the girl, meaning that despite Arcueid's practically infinite reserves of magical energy, Len simply can't act as a combatant.

"Yes, papa!" Your daughter happily agrees with you, and you smile at her, while she's not quite as powerful while she's in her human form as she is when she's in her dragon form, she should still be more than powerful enough to defend herself, and in an emergency, she could just take her dragon form anyway, and then she'd be basically completely invulnerable to effectively everything barring cheat abilities like the Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, and that's hardly fair anyway, as those bypass basically every defensive ability that exist, especially after being upgraded with the concept of Perfection. Who knows just how powerful Shiki's eyes have become because of that concept...

"..." Len says nothing as she grabs onto to Alítheia, closing her eyes as she clutches onto the small dragon girl, she must've realized that Alítheia is a dependable girl, as she doesn't object at all as she clutches onto the dragon onesie that your daughter is still wearing. It's actually kind of cute, how unfitting that her outfit is for the current situation... then again, the Halloween witch dresses that Betty and Abby are wearing aren't much better, and honestly, even those obvious novelty dresses are only a little bit more extravagantly over the top than Len's own dress. Well, they'd look more silly wearing actual armor, you suppose, so... you guess it works? Maybe you should see about having all the clothing they eventually choose for their wardrobe enchanted to be resistant to damage to protect them a little more? Maybe you're being a little too overprotective.
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Well, with Len's mental well-being mostly guaranteed to be protected by now, you decide that you may as well move on to the next stage of your plan. It's only so long until Manaka attacks again, and while you're confident in the defense you've put up thus far, you don't want to push your luck, otherwise people might start dying for real here. You raise a hand, causing the command spells upon it to glow brightly as you prepare to use one of them. "Betty, by my command spell, use your authority to create a swarm of small draconic creatures that seek out the most evil presences in the vicinity, have them be winged, able to see that which cannot be seen, and give them... a hivemind." You hesitate for a moment as you wonder if Betty will even know what such a word means, but you figure that the command spell will probably take care of that much for you. They aren't exactly commands that can be misinterpreted by the Servant like some sort of Monkey's paw, after all, and can even be used to control the mindless, so... it's not too far fetched to believe that they can convey an understanding of something unfamiliar. Though you feel like with the nature of her powers, Betty likely already knows exactly what a hivemind is anyway.

"Yes, papa!" Betty suddenly closes her eyes as she focuses, and a swarm of tiny little insect sized beasts emerge from her shadow, you don't really know if these really are dragons, their three sets of wings and tentacles in place of limbs kind of make it impossible to really tell, but... hopefully these count. You feel a little bit cheap abusing Alítheia's blessing like this, but... if your enemies slay one of these bug sized dragons, that means that they are far more vulnerable both to your attacks, as well as Medea's own. It's an even greater boost for Medea, as it allows her to bypass magical protections on her target, meaning that even a Servant with the Highest Rank of Magic Resistance would be completely helpless against her magic. In a way, Medea can be called something like the ultimate Anti-Dragon, Anti-Dragon Rider and Anti-Dragon Slayer servant now, thanks to Alítheia's blessing... then again, you share that exact same blessing but you aren't a Servant, so whatever.
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Looking at the swarming horde of monstrous bug sized draconic abominations under the control of your daughter, you briefly wonder just what you should do with them, before quickly coming to a conclusion. "OK, Betty, great job on creating all of them!" Your daughter smiles happily at you as she reaches out to poke one of the dragons, which lands on her finger and wraps its octopus like legs around it. Her authority is kind of unnerving, honestly, even though you know for a fact that it can be used to create perfect replications of human life, as you've seen with Betty, it just seems like it's more natural for her to create monstrous looking summons. "Now, can you have some of them search the house, while the rest harass our foes outside? Oh! And leave one or two here to report back what is happening with the rest of them, alright? You can understand them, can't you?"

"I can, though their speech is... odd sometimes." Well, so long as she can understand them, that hardly matters.

"Go ahead, then, time isn't on our side right now." You ask Betty to go ahead with the plan, and the swarm of destructive creatures head out to attack the enemies outside, while less of them spread out throughout the house, looking for intruders. "Also! Beaky! I want you to summon Beaky to us right now!" You ask Betty to summon the beast you've had her use the most, and without even hesitating, the many limbed beaked creature pulls itself from her shadow, you don't know if it was Betty's power that caused Beaky to do such a thing, or if the beast chose to emerge of its own accord. You have some time before Beaky finishes climbing from the shadow of his creator, so in that time you grab your foot before reattaching it and using your own healing magic to quickly heal it. The cut was clean and non mangled, meaning that despite your own healing magic being less effective on your body, you're able to rapidly reattach the missing foot and regain all of your balance.

By the time you've finished putting your foot back on, Beaky is now looming over Betty protectively, while looking at you with what you can only imagine is whatever emotion it feels in place of curiosity. You'll answer the question of the creature without hesitating at all, while you're a little repulsed by the strange feeling of the surface of the creature's body when you place your hand upon it, you don't let the strangeness get to you, and you begin to prepare to apply a concept to it. You're not entirely sure if this is going to work, but you've been getting more and more curious about your powers now, which only seem to have lost more and more of their limits as you've developed your abilities through developing your Reality Marble. So... upon touching the monstrous being for ten seconds, you are pulled into the conceptual world it possesses.
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It's... full of stars. You can't see much in this world, far away stars surround you, though if they are real or simply tiny recreations of such things, you're unsure. All you know for certain is that they are definitely 'Stars'

There's not really much in this world, and it doesn't take you long to find something that you believe to be Beaky's conceptual core... it's a strange looking heart, a pulsing organ with far too many openings to it, squirting out black ichor which floats in the void that exists without gravity. It's a wonder you can move at all in this world, but you aren't going to question it as you touch the heart, and choose a concept... You decide this time to choose a different concept from usual too, whereas many of the concepts you apply are concepts that pervade almost everything, this time, you'll use a small concept. The concept of "Paladin"! After making your selection and infusing the heart with the power, you feel yourself being dragged from the conceptual world as your vision darkens.

Light returns to your eyes just in time for you to see Beaky's body convulsing and changing, the shape of his body violently shifting into a humanoid shape, his many tentacled limbs fusing together into a set of arms and legs, his chitinous scales shifting into a full suit of armor, and his break transforming into some form of helmet. It looks like a horrifyingly painful process, but Beaky doesn't seem at all bothered by the changes that it is undergoing.

Eventually, what stands before you is a knight, or at least an existence that appears to be a knight. A somewhat tall figure fully clad in armor, with a great deal more strength than it had before, and is... a Servant now?

[Status Updated!]

"What is thou wish of me, Emissary of the Beyond?" A gravelly voice emanates from the helmet as Beaky kneels to you and Betty, and you almost jump in surprise at hearing the creature talk. Even more bizarre is the fact that it seems to be asking you for orders, instead of Betty... Unless it's aware of the Master Servant link, and is just cutting out the middle man?

>"I want you to protect these children no matter what."
>"I want you to go out there and kill as many of those wraiths as you are able."
>"I don't wish for anything of you right now, just provide assistance to my allies where you are able."
>"Accompany me, I require your strength."
>Write-in...

>>What will you do next?
>Go and try to fix the Bounded Fields.
>Start planning on wiping out the Jacks outside.
>Try to find the 'true' Jack.
>Work on fortifying your position and wait for the next attack.
>Write-in...
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>>4871995
https://youtu.be/oALxLNOhI6I
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>>4871995

>"I want you to protect these children no matter what."
Try to find the 'true' Jack.
>Work on fortifying your position and wait for the next attack.
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>Eldritch Knight: B
>A skill that allows for the usage of magecraft that is incompatible with the mindset of humanity and the foundations of the Planet, power drawn from beyond the Planet to bring forth all sorts of effects, mostly in the form of defensive magic but with some different varieties of magic too. In addition to this, this skill provides large plus modifiers against any divinities born of Earth. The raw power of this magic is not all that impressive when it comes to damage on a large scale, though the magecraft wielded is impossible for humans to counter. In addition, this skill provides immunity to all abilities that only function on humans or those born of the Earth.

>Paladin of the Abyss: A
>A skill representing that Saber is the Paladin of Azathoth, the Daemon Sultan. Or at least that he serves as such. Provides Saber with all kinds of defensive benefits. This skill can be activated at any time in order to achieve a temporary sort of invincibility, as all damage from attacks that strike Saber is instead absorbed and dissipated into the abyss.

>Impossible Biology: EX
>A skill that allows Saber to survive any wound and rapidly heal from any damage short of complete obliteration at no cost to himself. An ultimate survival skill that ranks Saber as possibly one of the most difficult Servants to kill. Also provides complete invulnerability to any and all mental interference or control abilities short of those of his creator or of the God he serves due to his completely impossible to understand body. In addition, as Saber has no concept of Death,
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>>4872007
The last part of the final skill got cut off.
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>>4871995
>"I want you to protect these children no matter what."
>"Betty, Alítheia, I leave you in charge and trust you to protect the rest. You have my permission to go all out but try not to destroy the house unless absolutely necessary."
>>What will you do next?
>Tamamo, work together with Chiyome and use Eightfold Blessings to cover the house and surrounds with a boundary of purification.
>Have rest of the Casters help how they see fit but advise not to split up.
>Have Archers and those who feel thay can help in long range fight to take position and provide fire support.
>Have rest of your combat capable allies be on their guard and provide support.
>Check on your weaker allies to see if they are alright, present and well.

>Saber of the Abyss
Everything we hoped for and more.
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>>4871987
>Maybe you're being a little too overprotective.
Nope, not overprotective at all. Abby especially is a squishy human. She needs all the protection she can get, and so do our other daughters. We're learning Truth Item Creation post-war, and we'll kit them out with the best protections we can make.

>>4871992
>Your daughter smiles happily at you as she reaches out to poke one of the dragons, which lands on her finger and wraps its octopus like legs around it
Cute! I had missed Betty's abominations.

Paladin Beaky got ripped! And he doesn't fucking die. Just like he did when he fought Diarmuid and he kept coming up.
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>>4871995
>"I want you to protect these children no matter what."
Beaky the Paladin needs a new name to account for his status as a Turbo Chad.

>Work on fortifying your position and wait for the next attack.
>Go and try to fix the Bounded Fields.
I feel these two kinda fall under the same Category, we can focus on trying to restore our Bounded Fields while the Caster can shore up our defenses in the meantime.
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>>4872015
I don't think we should limit them about destroying the house. After Tesla's steel rain, there's not much of it remaining anyway. And we could have Betty pull out the shadow bugs she once made for us, and distribute them among the children present for an extra layer of protection. Rest was fine, it was the next part of the plan anyway.
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>>4872024
House collapsing is not idea since we have a lot of squishy people around.
Bugs are good plan but avoid giving them to Len.
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>>4872032
Yeah, everyone but Len. Will you add it?

Also, we should warn people about Lancelot's capabilities. They don't know that Artoria is his weakness and should be the one to fight him when he comes back.
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>>4872035
Feel free to redo it or add something else like asking Morgan hows that jobber Green Knight map jannie is doing.
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We should probably try and talk with Morgan about the map and get an idea if there'd anything we're missing here. Diarmuid could be anywhere, Cu/Morrigan too as well as the servants she BLACKED in the forest.
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>>4871995
>"I want you to protect these children no matter what."
>"Betty, Alítheia, I leave you in charge and trust you to protect the rest. You have my permission to go all out but try not to destroy the house unless absolutely necessary."
>Tell Betty to pull out the Shadow Bugs too and distribute them among the children for an extra layer of protection. All children but Len, she'll be spooked by those things in her shadow.
>>What will you do next?
>Tamamo, work together with Chiyome and use Eightfold Blessings to cover the house and surrounds with a boundary of purification.
>Inform everyone about Lancelot's new capabilities, advise Arturia that he has a weakness against specifically her now and she should be the one to fight him when he returns.
>Ask Morgan for an update about the map, see if there's anything we're missing.
>Have rest of the Casters help how they see fit but advise not to split up.
>Have Archers and those who feel they can help in long range fight to take position and provide fire support.
>Have rest of your combat capable allies be on their guard and provide support.
>Check on your weaker allies to see if they are alright, present and well.

Updated
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>>4871995
>>4872053
+1
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>>4871995
>>4872053
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>>4871995
>>4872053
Support
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>>4872018
Beaksworth
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>>4871995
From >>4872015 to >>4872053
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>>4871995
Calling in ten
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>>4871995

sounds good >>4872053

so is sir beccus, among other things, a hard counter to altrouge's doggy?
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>>4872088
he needs a self taunt ability, they could just ignore him
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>>4872088
Just let Vritra put old yeller to final rest.
>Fated Supporter of Humanity: EX
>A skill that represents Vritra's nature as an obstacle for humanity to overcome, though at the same time, her nature as one that wishes to see humanity overcome all obstacles, where before thanks to her nature as an Asura, this was merely done to amuse herself, now she is capable of feeling genuine emotions towards those humans that struggle. Instead of being an existence firmly opposed to the gods, now Vritra is an existence firmly in support of humanity. This skill provides Vritra with an Anti-Threat to Humanity and an Anti-Beast trait, and the ability to negate the unique Nega skills of Beasts, should they be used to target humans or herself. Though despite the new nature of her existence as one who truly enjoys helping humanity, she does sometimes derive a little too much pleasure out of watching their struggles still.
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>>4871995
>Saber of the Abyss
I love it.
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>>4872090
>Witch Trial: - (A+)
>Foreigner attracts the hatred of others through merely being seen by them. Because of Foreigner's inexperience with this ability, this skill is unable to be disabled. Should Foreigner manage to properly master her abilities, then not only will this ability be capable of being disabled at will by it's owner, but it can even be shared with another, meaning that whoever is targeted by the ability becomes a magnet for hatred to all who see them. Currently, this skill is sealed thanks to the work of Touko Aozaki.
Easy.
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>>4872099
Nice, yeah. We'll just have to help her learn how to control it and Paladin Beaky becomes an ubertank.
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>>4872094
Fou simps to big dragon booba
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TAlly?
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>>4872102
Have Morgan give him Avenger skills too.
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>>4872113

>>4871995

>"I want you to protect these children no matter what."
Try to find the 'true' Jack.
>Work on fortifying your position and wait for the next attack.
>>4871998

>"I want you to protect these children no matter what."
>Work on fortifying your position and wait for the next attack.
>Go and try to fix the Bounded Fields.
>>4872018

>Updated combat autism
>>4872053
>>4872058
>>4872065
>>4872071
>>4872080
>>4872088
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>>4871995
This is the coolest shit yet, is it like a black chitin version of the plume knight set from Demon Souls?
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>>4872129
If we are talking about more eldritch looking armor.
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>>4872137
Fuck, it's, it's perfect for our Beaky Boy.
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>>4872137
Yeah, I like this design for Paladin Beaky.
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>>4872145
Basssed. Beaky Boy Maximum Refined Edge Knight.
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>>4871995
>>4872137
Damn nice.
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>>4872137
Just use Griffiths Armour but black
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>>4872145
You should do a "Shinji and Betty do a speedrun of Bloodborne" on the next carnival.
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>>4872160
What is Shinji's weapon, what would he grab?
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>>4872170
Cuuute. Literal Baby Doll.
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>>4872171
Cane whip
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>>4872174
Heh, I was gonna saw Tonnitrus myself,
>>4872160
wait, are we including dlc for the Omake?
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>>4872171
If you want to make something fun out of it concept Holy Moonlight Sword with Sunlight or just Sun.
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>>4872160
Adopt Ebrietas, she's an abandoned orphan too.
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>>4872160
That Abby in Bloodborne comic was good
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"I want you to protect these children no matter what." You respond to the newly created Paladin quickly, discerning the best possible use for him. As somebody who is effectively completely unkillable, Beaky as he exists now is the perfect Bodyguard, and you trust him implicitly to be able to protect Betty and the rest of them. He never let you down before, after all, and you aren't about to start doubting him just because you've granted him a humanoid form. That would be ridiculous.

"As you command, Emissary." The newly minted Paladin crosses an arm over his chest as he bows to you, before he takes a step back, still standing protectively close to his creator, but... not too close. You aren't certain just how much intelligence is held by Beaky as he exists now, but he has clearly gotten quite a bit more intelligent, though that might just be your natural bias speaking, as he's developed the ability to speak, and thus comes off as more intelligent by default.

"Now, Betty, Alítheia, I'm going to leave the two of you in charge, and trust you to protect the rest of the children, with Beaky's help... You've all got my permission to use your full power, but do try not to destroy the house unless you have absolutely no choice, OK?"

"OK, papa!" Alítheia nods happily, prepared for anything, apparently. Well, there's no doubt that she should be able to handle it, she's barely a few days old, and already she's managed to effortlessly slay Lancelot with her breath. The potential of your daughter is truly something that is really quite terrifying, honestly.

"OK, and Betty, the Shadow Bugs you created, can you... pull those out and distribute them among all the other kids? Everyone except Len, I don't want her being spooked by them, she's had something of a bad experience in the past..." You really do hope that Len can forgive you for what she saw in your dream. It wasn't really your fault at all, and she was the one intruding on something that she absolutely shouldn't have seen, but then again, it wasn't like it was her choice to actually do it in the first place anyway, she was doing it on Arcueid's instructions, definitely... You're actually surprised that Arcueid never brought it up with you properly, though she may have been able to gather that it didn't go all that well from Len's reaction when she saw her...

"Of course, papa!" Betty starts to focus on drawing those creatures out of her own Shadow, and the insects spook the other girls a little as they disappear into their shadow. Rin, Olga and Miyako all look especially distressed by the intrusion of the shadowy bugs into their shadows, but you can't really concern yourself with their personal thoughts right now. So long as they are safe, that's all that matters, you'll apologize for spooking them with eldritch shadow bugs later on, if they were really that scared by them.
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"Thank you, Betty... but now I need to go and speak with a few of my other allies, Beaky will help you keep everyone safe, I'm sure. I love you all of you." You remind your daughters of your love for them as you depart, picking your way across the almost completely wrecked floor, metal spikes still poking out of most of the floor and making traversing across the hall very difficult. Still, Jack is still outside, even if they are currently being distracted right now, and Lancelot is... definitely around, somewhere.

You quickly make your way towards Tamamo and Chiyome, who don't really look like they've struggled a great deal to survive the onslaught, it was likely more an attempt to suppress the room than it was anything else, but thankfully, whatever they had planned has been interrupted, so you've not got to worry about what Monica's rain of steel was going to be used for. "Tamamo! Chiyome! Thank goodness the two of you are alright." For some reason, the two girls seem to have managed to end up near one another, you suppose that you should have expected the Shrine Maiden and the Reincarnation of Amaterasu to end up being close to each other, but you're still a little surprised by it. "I know it might be asking a little too much of the two of you, but... Tamamo, could I ask you to use Eightfold Blessings to cover the house and have Chiyome assist you in creating a boundary of Purification around the house? It should prevent the Fog from entering once again, which will be a problem the moment that the Jacks finish dealing with the last of Medea's dragons."

"Eightfold Blessings...?" Tamamo raises an eyebrow at you. "Husband, I don't recall ever telling you about my Noble Phantasm..." Tamamo seems a little bit suspicious of your knowledge, before she shrugs. "But I can tell that that eye of yours probably has something to do with you knowing just what my Noble Phantasm can do." She smiles happily at you, the suspicion fading as she looks at your glowing golden eye. You can probably turn it off at some point, but right now, it's good that it's permanently active, not to mention that you need to figure out how to turn it off first. "Chiyome, I'll happily accept your help in creating a new Bounded Field, if you wish to assist."

"Of course I shall, it is the word of my Lord, and I will never act against his wishes." Chiyome looks happy to have been given something to do, and she starts to talk with Tamamo in more detail about the creation of a Bounded Field, and while you'd love to engage them on the conversation, you've got more to be getting up to right now, namely, you need to inform everyone that Lancelot has grown a great deal more powerful.
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You raise your voice as you talk to the room. "Everyone! In case you were too distracted at the time to notice, I've got to inform you that Lancelot has been strengthened a great deal, and I can't recommend that he is fought by anybody who once fought alongside him in life, or any royalty. Otherwise you'll be at risk of his new skills, which have made him a great deal more powerful... The only person who should engage with him is..." You suddenly turn towards Arturia and Shirou, the two of them have determined expressions on their face. "You, Arturia. You're the only one who should engage with Lancelot when he shows up again, he's become specifically weak to you."

"I dislike the notion of having to do battle with Sir Lancelot once again, but... I will accept it as a necessity." You don't really know if Saber will be capable of defeating Lancelot even with the fact that he would be weakened by his own skill, you suppose that there's not much to worry about when she actually has access to Avalon, which should allow her to turn the tide of basically any battle. Still, you don't know if she's strong enough to defeat Lancelot quickly. Which will be required if you want to actually capture and save him.

"Thank you for that, Arturia, I understand that doing battle against one of your own knights after his corruption to madness must weigh on you a great deal." Though at least this time, Lancelot's madness is a result of Manaka's work and the Grail Mud, and not simply his own insanity... even though that insanity was clearly the base for his current state. "Morgan! The map, how is it looking?" You ask the fairy magus, who frowns faintly as she closes her eyes to get a better look at the map through her familiar, she's been paying attention anyway, you imagine, but...

"It's quite irritating, but the fog outside this building is obstructing my view of the magical energy signatures of anybody hiding inside of it, I can't tell from the map alone just how many Servants could be out there." That's... a nuisance. "There are a few other magical energy signatures elsewhere in the city, flitting about, but that's not relevant to us I believe. Your allies are still seemingly in pursuit of the opponent that attempted to destroy us all with their rain of metal." Morgan opens her eyes again. "That's about everything, unfortunately, our opponent is capable of utilizing teleportation, so the map is nowhere near as helpful as it would otherwise be..." She sounds quite apologetic at that, and you feel a little bad for the fairy woman. Is she really somebody that you can't trust? You've been overly suspicious of her, but it's likely that she really did end up regretting things after over a millennia to think back on events. She did end up creating the ritual to resurrect King Arthur, after all... Though that does remind you that you still need to scold her for her plan's treatment of Gray... Well, maybe when Gray is safe first.
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"Thank you for the update, Morgan, this is... troubling..." You frown yourself, the lack of usefulness of the map is annoying, but somewhat expected. After all, Manaka seems to have actually started to take things seriously now. She's no longer just messing around and allowing you to capture and convert her Servants to your side. The very moment that her plan was foiled, it was changed nearly instantly... "Anyone else with enough magical experience that they feel they can use it to help before the next attack, I suggest you use it, though I wouldn't recommend splitting up at all. Staying in the ruins of this room is our best bet... It's only now that you realize that despite the lack of light or power, the room is still being illuminated. Probably the work of one of the Casters, actually. With that said, you turn your attention to another group. "Could I please ask our Archers and anybody capable of a ranged attack to provide support too? If you could take position and give some fire support, then I feel like our chances of surviving the next attack will rise. As for everyone else capable of fighting? Just... be on your guard and support those who require it." You give out your orders to your allies, and the room seems to be in agreement about following your plan. There's honestly not enough time to provide any counter-arguments, not unless whoever was arguing wants to be put at risk of having the attack start while they argued their own case, and you were attacked with no plan at all.

With your orders out, you decide to check on the group hiding behind a large amount of shields embedded, and find everyone not on the level of a Servant shaken, but completely safe. Kairi, Waver, Luvia, Reines, even Kerry is behind the wall of shields. Nobody seems to be harmed at all though, and you're relieved.

You realize that you might just have the time before the next attack starts to apply a concept to one of your allies, improving their potential battle power by a great deal, and allowing you to surprise Manaka with something that she couldn't have possibly planned for...

>Apply a concept to one of your allies now. (Who and with what?)
>No, just wait for your allies to be done with their current tasks and be ready for the attack to begin anew at any moment.
>Write-in...
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>>4872394
>No, just wait for your allies to be done with their current tasks and be ready for the attack to begin anew at any moment.
Not sure what our reserves are at since we did self apply and to beaksworth
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>>4872384
>She smiles happily at you, the suspicion fading as she looks at your glowing golden eye
Interesting that Tamamo is one of the few to ever get suspicious of us.

Goldeneye I found his weakness
Goldeneye he'll do what I please
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>>4872405
That sfw?
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>>4872394
apply a concept to the archers, probably Billy or Karna and give them "True Shot" as a concept, something that means they can shoot even the invisible and invincible and kill it.
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>>4872394
>Apply a concept to one of your allies now. (Who and with what?)
>Sakura
>Indomidability
>Sweep her in your arms and apply it with a deep kiss

Sakura has the most immediate potential from among our allies. Unsealing a mere fragment of Tiamat was enough for her to no-sell the grail mud, and Indomidabilty will allow her to access more of that power right now. Her ribbons are our best option for capturing servants alive, and Sakura with a concept will be much better able to utilize them. And Indomidability is the concept most well suited for her. She withstood Zouken's abuse for years without breaking, losing her will to live or her hope. It is one of the core characteristics of her, and the more well-suited a concept is the more powerful it becomes.
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>>4872419
Little overkill
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>>4872420
We have a list of who doesn't have a concept?
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>>4872415
Don't you like it, sakurafren?
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Conceptual upgrade for Artoria, maybe?

In any case we should probably avoid sitting on ass or else we risk Manakas focusing on the away team. Maybe suppressive fire by Archers and harassment by summons as a bare minimum?
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>>4872428
I love that underwear irl
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>>4872394
Now would be a good time to remember that we still have fucking Iskandar in the freezer, and waking him the fuck up and purifying him would be pretty good.
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>>4872433
Holy shit this
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>>4872428
>>4872415
Dear god they're multiplying.
I thought Sakurautist had just changed his name.
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>>4872433
>>4872394
this
ionioi hetairoi would be incredible here if we apply a concept that will let iskandar summon it outside of his marble
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>>4872433
He's a bro, you got my support
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>>4872440
Sounds like this https://youtu.be/H4QdNqFpcsY
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>>4872419
We need servants alive though. Anyone we capture is someone we can convert. Anyone we kill is someone Manaka resurrects and sends back to us, probably stronger.

>>4872430
We definitely should not sit on our ass.

>>4872433
What would Iskandar even do? Send even more mooks outside? We already have the wyverns and the dragonbugs. And don't forget, Manaka can teleport. The moment we take him out of the freezer, Manaka yoinks him and upgrades him

>>4872438
anon, that's batman who decided to start namefagging after the buckbreaker broke him. Check previous post by the id.
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>>4872446
I thought we were friends
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>>4872433
Wait, I forget, who is it we need to pull Iskandar out again? It's Rin, right? Don't want to suggest something that we can't do because we sent the pre-requisite away or something.

>>4872446
>What would Iskandar even do?
I'd rather have Iskandar out and about instead of applying a concept to non-combatants, but you do you pal.
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>>4872446
>>4872446
Sorry, I misread. We can apply a concept to anyone. If you have any good suggestions, go ahead.
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>>4872446
We also have Gilgameshes Bracelet that stops Teleportation, we slap that on Iskandar and she can't get him.
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>>4872455
non-combatant? Anon, yesterday Sakura saved Medea from getting cut in half by Salter with her ribbons. She was the only reason that Obi is here right now and there were no casualties. She absorbed Enkidu's grail mud when he would have killed Gil if left alone. She's the only reason Enkidu and Gil are here and that Gil is our friend. She no-selled the cursemud tidal wave that would have killed us all. And she did that all with only a mere, tiny fraction of Tiamat's full power. Have you not seen Babylonia? Imagine Tiamat's full power at her command, plus the concept buff, plus Nullification, plus her innate ribbon powers. That's not a non-combatant, that's literally stronger than a Beast!

>>4872457
I do have a good suggestion, and taking Iskandar out just means Manaka yoinks him like she yoinked Lancelot when things started turning bad.

>>4872461
Can you slap it on him faster than she can teleport him? I rather doubt it. And that means Medea can't teleport back either.
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>>4872463
Have Moedred do it she can stop time
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>>4872394
>>4872420
Support kissing our sisterwife
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>>4872422
>>4872427
>>4872435
>>4872441
>>4872444
Why is the self proclaimed Sakura simp not simping?

You're a failure at everything you do batmong.
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>>4872473
I'm for kissing her but I like my bro. Calm down nigger
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So could an amped Sakura's ribbons stop Manaka from teleporting Lancelot or Diarmuid??
If she keeps tp'ing them away we'll never get the chance to free them.
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>>4872479
Nullification dabs on all magic. Sakura with a full beast's power behind her will almost certainly be able to stop Manaka from yanking them. She's the only way we have if we want captives now that Manaka has stopped jobbing.
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>>4872485
If you could read we already have a concept
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>>4872463
Fine, whatever man. I know you want your waifu to be center stage at all times, but I just want Iskandar bro to not be stuck in Imaginary Space Freezer until the war ends and we finally remember he exist when Waver asks us where he is, because undoubtedly he'll be forgotten again after this discussion.
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DUDE is still Manaka's servant. He was never rule broken. The only reason she didn't notice us chucking her into Rin's timelocked interdimensional gbj was because of Merlin's flowerscreen preventing scrying at the time amidst the chaos in the forest.

DUDE is now timelocked behind defeating Manaka because she's decided to stop jobbing.

Come up with a concept for him, but trying to pull him out now gets him immediately teleported back and reNIGGERed by Manaka.

>>4872479
Good chance, yes. Tiamat also dabs on her scuffed grail mud. Indomitability should make Sakura an absolute Stacy.

>Incapable of being overcome, subdued, or vanquished; unconquerable. It's effectively invincibility as an unstoppable force.
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>>4872486
>reading
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>>4872487
Also if Rin can put Iskandar in imaginary space without causing him damage, we could probably do a quick dive in first and slap the bracelet on him as we pull him out. Unless Manaka can immediately teleport him when we open the door.
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>>4872490
Yeah I know, niggers can't read
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I'll call this tomorrow, lots of discussion going on here.
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>>4872487
Anon, I have provided arguments why this is the most useful thing you can do right now. We want captives, how do you plan to do that with a concepted Iskandar instead of Sakura? Even IF you're able to do it before she yanks him?

>>4872492
Anon, do you have any idea how the 2nd magic or INS works? Rin put him into a special pocket dimension just for him, there is nothing to dive into. Though yes, opening the door would allow Manaka to yank him even if there was. Teleports are immediate, yes. That's how they work. And Manaka would have certainly been able to yank him from normal INS, she's more powerful than grandpa was when he built his base there.
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>>4872492
Couldn't we ask Merlin to put Flower Screensaver on again so she wouldn't be able to tell what's happening?
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>>4872500
Why don't you talk to me
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>>4872394
Switch >>4872420 to

>Tell Rin to use her second magic to send all the metal that we got bombarded with away
>Apply a concept to one of your allies now. (Who and with what?)
>Sakura
>Indomidability
>Sweep her in your arms and apply it with a deep kiss

Just realized, we have A LOT of metal lying around, and Monica could use it to fuck us up at a moment's notice. Even when distracted. Better get rid of it before she turns it into a blender.
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>>4872503
He did that before Manaka fisted him through the chest. He's been nerfed to shit unfortunately.
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>>4872512
Fine I'll support
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>>4872528
Gee, if only we had some sort of way to enhance his abilities, maybe give him new ones.
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>>4872394
>>4872472
>>4872512
Switch
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So Sakura is probably the first priority because Indominable rape ribbons can bind and allow us to neutralise and convert any servant she gets a binding on.

Following that, Artoria needs something to keep her on par with jetkek. Artoria has a huge repository of equipment that she lacks access to in her Saber class container, as well as many powerful beasts.

Have a looksie here for some of them:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mythological_objects

Just ctrl + F Arthur.

Also, Arthur has several horses, as do the KOTR, and a dog, Cavall, who was storng enough to help hunt down the great demon boar Twrch Trwyth. Also a boat, shields, weapons of all sorts.

Either Exchequer or Regalia should give her access to her full kit I'd imagine. She'd effectively have King's Order but for her items/beasts from her adventures and conquests in life.

Being the former or current once and future king of Britain, she might also still be able to tap into https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteen_Treasures_of_the_Island_of_Britain as well. As well as other britbong prophecies.
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>>4872545
Also, any time she True Name released Rhongobongo her booba would grow, so she won't be a chestlet anymore. Ilya can hold her hand once every now and then to succ away the goddess within the spear as well Also it grants her the Protection of the Ends of the World buff which is just a flat 2 rank statup across the board for pure statgruggery.

JETkek kneels.
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>>4872553
>Also, any time she True Name released Rhongobongo her booba would grow, so she won't be a chestlet anymore.
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That only happened because she relied on Rhongo due to not using Excalibur. If she has it now she would still be stasis'd.
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>>4872556
booblet
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>>4872556
Why must you ruin a good thing with your sound arguments?
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>>4872564
Just accept the huge lactating tits
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>>4872545
Oh and Wild Hunt syncretism
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Should we even apply a concept when we said we don't wanna strain ourselves?
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>>4872394

>>4872512


Concepting Artoria after this, if Sakura with her new powers can buy us a moment.
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>>4872570
Sakurakiss is an easy mana refill due to the 7 grail manafurnace inside her.

Also, going off the update itself, Paladin was cheap as fuck to cast.
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>>4872545
>>4872553
I'm definitely a big fan of Arthur dabbing on Sir Cucksalot. The glaring weakness should be exploited whenever possible.

However, he doesn't seem like too much of a threat right now. So our priority probably should be buffing worm slut. Indomitable will probably make her less submissive though but small price to pay in our imaginary game of make believe.
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>>4872583
How is he Sir Cucksalot if he's the one that did the cucking?
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>>4872569
It's mentioned in FGO that Artoria Lancer Alter is related to Wild Hunt, so is Drake. Cain in legend is also another person who leads. I saw some people connect the dots that Odin!Cu would be Grand Rider as Odin is the most famous leader of wild hunt and Cu Caster is bumming around in the current Lostbelt
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>>4872587
Hmmm...why would I call him Sir Cucksalot if he did a lot of cucking? Gee, I fucking wonder....
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>>4872602
That's us I think
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>>4872602
>Lancelot cucked his king
>Diarmuid cucked his boss.
Maybe that's why they always attack together. Manaka has a sense of humour.
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>>4872615
Perfect time to post this

Reckon Manaka finna cuck us?
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>>4872570
Its a battle, brainlet
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>>4872659
In me
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>>4872659
She's doing just fine.
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>>4872668
Why not?
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>>4872695
You bad
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>>4872545
Just give her Apex as concept. It should unlock her full potential and arsenal.
Zenith or Prime could also do.
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>>4860082
To remind about ideas for concept for Sakura and Tiamat since more likely than not going inside Sakura`s inner world will nail us a meeting with Tiamat too.
>>4872569
You can also try empowering her dragon part or try to tap into Knights of the Round Table connection and give her ability to summon them to her aid similary to how Jason can get argonauts to appear and help him.
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>>4872831
Prime Artoria in her myth didn't always have her full kit. Trying to give her a Camelot Treasury/Menagerie access because Rhongo's blessings gives her a massive statboost.

And she gets her boat, mounts, pets etc.

if Morgan as regent in LB6 is able to divvy out kotr kit sets it only makes sense that Artoria, who actually acquired them can do it better.

She abdicated the throne and can become the Treasurer of Camelot/Britain after abdicating to her daughter. It might also let her deny kotr access to their gear and fuck JETS harder, as well and endow people with kotr kit as well as her own?

As the Exchequer is the British unique position of the Treasurer.
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And since we have no reason not to think that concepts for Obeithion and Mordred will differ a lot from ones for Artoria by a lot and we know from WhatIs about few we didn`t pick:
Obeithion:
>>Loyalty
>She remains Saber Alter, but is loyal to you.
>That's about it.
>>Compassion/Justice
>She becomes something closer to the original Saber, sort of like a halfway point between vanilla and alter.
>>Submission
>She remains Alter but basically loses all of her willpower.
>Duty
>She would take the form of Lancer Alter
>>Divinity
>The Goddess Rhongomyniad.
>A write-in of Tyranny or the like would be required to have her stay Alter.
Mordred:
>>Triumph
>Personally, I was hoping for Triumph to win.
>One of the things that would do is it would've given her a variant of Charisma that made any armies led by her have each member get Instinct at Rank: C themselves.
>>Perpetuity
>Perpetual Dragoncore.
>Effectively infinite energy supply with a terrifying output.
>The same sort of Unga Bunga that can be used to kill Sefar.
>Also immortality.
>>4872858
I guess three best bets are Knight summons, Gate of Avalon and Triumph (should it work similarly to Mordred`s Triumph).
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>>4872862
Trying not to conflict with Mo's new kingship selection.

Also Treasurer + Royal smith is a kind of fitting pairing between her and Shirou.

We have a fair few busted Charisma variants already, including her sister HOPE. I imagine she wants to live a fairly quiet life after this so avoiding going for a full grug/combat option too.

Can Shirou provide the juice to summon multiple KOTR? Triumph will be good here and now, but not long term for her life. She's pretty much in one of the last battles of her life that'll be a threat to her, then she gets to Fate end style retire with the redman
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>>4872862
Also more kotr = more BLOAT
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And if Paladin is cheap to use so will a position like Treasurer I'd imagine. Indomitability and then having to immediately concept Tiamat while in Sakura's mental world might cost us a lot of our mana, then we'll wake up, have to buff Artoria and also deal with the ongoing fight.
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>>4872866
>>4872872
>>4872874
Well, I am convinced about Exchequer being better. Should probably give something to Shirou too. Something to either give ability to create new things using his pool of knowledge or refine things that already exist and can be made.
Since person and Reality Marble can be concepted separately concept for him should be one that would allow him to have higher energy output to support all of it.
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Actually I found a better word that gives Artoria her complete kit, and well, the entirely of her life and legend sublimated into a single word.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historia_Brittonum#Arthuriana

Arthuriana.
>Noun
>Arthuriana pl (plural only)

>Things relating to King Arthur.

If this isn't a suitable word then I'd default back to Exchequer for the Gate of Britain dominion.
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>>4872846
I'm not so sure Tiamat will meet us in Sakura's inner world. They were all static so far, just a representation of the person's life and personality. I know you're anxious to get your concept too mommy Tiamat, but I think you'll have to wait for Sakura to pull us into her vorechamber.

I wonder how Sakura's will look like. A blossoming tree stubbornly clinging to light, surrounded by darkness and despair?

>>4872858
Yeah, giving her access to the treasurye and the zoo will be the best for her, both now and long-term. She gets to fight fully equipped now that she needs to, and then she can hand the kit out and go retire in Germany with her husband and her new pets. I don't like giving her the position of treasurer though. She might feel obligated to take up that duty on the new British Empire, and that'd be bad for her.

>>4872862
Triumph? She doesn't want to lead armies, she wants to be with Shirou 24/7. Let's keep that one for someone who actually wants to conquer.

>>4872866
He probably doesn't have the juice, no. We made him a not-shit magus, but his mana output is still not THAT great.

>>4872874
Good thing we can kiss Sakura again after we wake up for a quick refill.

>>4872885
Arthuriana sounds like the best option so far. The earliest source of her myth, and it doesn't contain the King that was Promised part. That's important, it leaves her free to fuck her husband in Germany now that she's abdicated.
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Probably should have asked for those gloves from Tamamo while we were with her.

They're niche but a manabursted snake style punch could help amidst the melee to come.

We'll wait till post concepting Sakura and Artoria, and assuming we get some breathing room also try and get Medea's combat buff.
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>>4872950
Oh, right, the gloves would have been nice to have. She'll be busy building her zone of purification now, we'll have to wait. We did get Medea's combat buff, it was the last thing that happened before we noticed the open window. We're reinforced as hell right now.
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We shouldn't grab a concept to Saber. Adding a concept is intemate and causes most servants to become enamored with Shinji afterwards. Plus do we have enough Mana to pull it off?
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>>4873069
Ok just let Lancelot kill her, all good then.
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>>4873069
Nobu didn't.
Obeithion didn't.
Shiki didn't.
Enkidu didn't.

It's not that it inherently makes Servants fall for us, it's just that on many of the Servants we granted their heart's desire and saved them.
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>>4873069
>Plus do we have enough Mana to pull it off?
We can just kiss Sakura again for a full refill. Yay for mana transfer!
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>>4872394
>>4872512
Not many votes rn so I'll support this
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>>4872394
>>4872512
+1
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>>4872512
I hope this doesn't alter her personality in any way. +1
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>>4872394
support >>4872512
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>>4872394
Supporting >>4872512
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>>4873176
Don't worry anon. That's part of what makes this concept so great. After everything she's been through without breaking and losing hope? We know she already is Indomitable. We are not giving her something she lacked, only confirming her greatest strength.
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Tally?
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>>4873273

>>4872394

>Tell Rin to use her second magic to send all the metal that we got bombarded with away
>Apply a concept to one of your allies now. (Who and with what?)
>Sakura
>Indomitability
>Sweep her in your arms and apply it with a deep kiss
>>4872512
>>4872529
>>4872538
>>4872573
>>4873124
>>4873164
>>4873176
>>4873183
>>4873197

A unanimous decision, though there were also some posts that might have been intended as votes and I didn't count. They didn't list either what concept they wanted applied or who exactly to apply it to.
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Dead quest
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>>4873518
k
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I can't believe the quest is dead, bros... How could this be...?
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>>4873539
Concepting Sakura resulted in vore.
True Dead End.
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>>4873539
Just holding its breath for Indomitable Sakura
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>>4873543
We accidentally touched Tiamat's core instead of Sakura's. Indomitable Tiamat broke free and sea of lifed everyone.
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So I did some digging on possible stuff for Artoria if she were to get full access to Camelot's kit and uhh, it's a lot.

Have a flick through these and let me know if I missed anything

Armour/Weapons/Items:
https://pastebin.com/D2em3EYh (embed)

Animals. only included her animals here, but we know Gawain has a named horse named Gringolet, which also features as his bond CE.
https://pastebin.com/9PuN1Yj3 (embed)
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>>4873550
fuck it, leaving the (embed)s there for the fgog op experience
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>>4873552
what manner of collab is this
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>>4873550
wow, that's a lot more than I expected.
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>>4873568
That's just LB6.
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"Rin!" You call out to the girl wielding the oversized blade, the almost all-powerful weapon currently sunk into the floor, ready to be wielded once again at a moment's notice. Rin's sword skills... well, they weren't fantastic, even when drawing upon knowledge from the blade, it seemed. But the power of the weapon itself, being one of near unparalleled magical might, was enough to easily counter her lack of technical skill with a blade. After all, it might've taken the form of a sword and could be used as such, but the Kaleidosword was so much more. Just like Paracelcus' sword, the Kaleidosword was a magical tool meant for the usage of the Second Magic. "This metal on the floor! I want you to send it away somewhere! Anywhere!" After all, if Monica got an opportunity to do so, she could almost certainly turn thousands of spikes pierced into the floor into a tornado of iron, killing practically everyone in the room through an endless barrage of omni-directional attacks, or perhaps worse, she could likely call upon her true electric manipulation abilities, and use the metal on the floor to turn the room into a cage of lightning. While it might be possible to survive another flurry of metal, it's unlikely that even more than a few of your allies could survive being hit by System Keraunos. Even Gilgamesh's shields likely wouldn't provide defense against it, being made mostly out of metal.

"Alright! Give me a second!" The girl dressed unashamedly as a cat themed magical girl plunges her weapon into the ground and begins the calculations and magical work required to banish the metal from the room. While you're still as interested in ever with Rin's usage of the Second True Magic, it's hardly something you can spend any time focusing on, and you turn your attention to somebody else. Namely, Sakura. She's managed to defend herself quite well against the attacks, and though she's not drawing on Tiamat's power right now, she's still not got a scratch on her. Her ribbons by themselves were apparently enough to keep her safe.

You quickly rush to her side, making sure that she's alright up-close. While she certainly looks fine, there's always the chance that you simply didn't see any wounds on her. "Sakura... You're OK, right?" You say with just a tinge of worry in your voice, you're trying to suppress your nerves about her having gotten hurt, but you don't know just how good a job you did. She smiles at you as you ask, and the anxiousness in your heart seems to melt away as she does.
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>>4873552
Current lostbelt is wild as it has both vore and NTR
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"Of course, Onii-chan!" Sakura happily proclaims. "I can protect myself from this much, so you don't have to worry about me getting hurt...!" She then mumbles something as she turns her head away from you that you barely manage to make out. "...unless you want to..." You decide to ignore that particular comment, and you hug her for a moment, glad that she's OK, before breaking off the hug. While you'd love to just be able to hold her for hours, now isn't the time for such things. You have no choice but to end the moment of affection lest you be caught unprepared for the next attack. Why can't Manaka just leave you alone? You were just trying to have a night off, is that too much to ask? Does she really want you to end things so soon?

"I'm glad, Sakura... I'm so glad..." You know that she's far too powerful now to truly be troubled by an attack like the one Monica used, but you still can't help yourself worrying about the people you love. While Sakura could've just tapped into Tiamat's powers in order to easily deal with the attack, it's clear that she still doesn't particularly enjoy using the powers of the Beast, does she... perhaps fear the consequences of doing it too much? Her control over nullification should mean that it's impossible for Tiamat to ever properly take control of her body, but... it's possible that some aspects of her personality could be overwritten by the Mother Goddess even with that in mind. While her personality still hasn't changed at all since she started hosting Tiamat, you're worried about the long term impacts of such a thing.

So worried, in fact, that you devise something. You were planning on granting a concept to one of your allies before the next attack occurred in order to gain an unfair advantage over whatever Manaka had planned with the abilities of your allies in mind, and now that you look at Sakura, an idea springs to mind. While you did already apply a concept to her, you... didn't quite apply the concept to her specifically. You instead granted the concept of Nullification to her internal world, and to the workings of her magecraft, granting her a level of magecraft that could easily be said to be on the level of True Magic. A Magecraft capable of nullifying and removing anything from existence. A magecraft capable of imprisoning and subduing even a Beast, even if Tiamat was at least semi-willing when it came to being sealed within Sakura, the fact that such a thing was possible for her at all is tremendously impressive. After all, even Kingu with an attack that surpassed anything managed by Enkidu in his life could only stall Tiamat for a brief period of time.
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You suddenly sweep Sakura into your arms, and she makes a noise of surprise as she looks up at your face, before blushing slightly when she realizes what you're about to do. She closes her eyes as the two of you bring your lips to each other and share a deep kiss. Saliva isn't all that's exchanged in the kiss either, you can feel your magical energy reserves being rapidly restored as Sakura shares her vast quantities of magical energy with you, knowing that you must be somewhat tired from the effort you've put into the fight tonight already, and... she's not entirely wrong, either. While you could've probably gone a little longer, you had managed to use a large quantity of your magical energy in a short period, and having Sakura refill you to your maximum certainly wasn't something that you were going to complain about.

The kiss lasts for ten seconds, and the required time for you to touch something to apply a conceptual modification passes. In that moment, you allow yourself to enter Sakura's conceptual world. Different from her Internal World in the Realm of Imaginary Numbers, this place represents everything that Sakura is. The sublimation of her entire existence.

It's... a large meadow, with a single blossoming cherry tree standing proudly atop a hill not so far away from you. You can feel the warm glow of a sunrise upon your bare skin, and... realize that for whatever reason, you're not wearing any clothing here. Odd, but you suppose it's not the strangest thing you've ever had happen to you. The serenity of this place makes you consider it a sort of... paradise, like the Garden of Eden, or something equivalent to it. Ignoring the fact that you're naked, you stroll through the meadow, the purple and blue wildflowers growing abundantly through the meadow getting thicker as you approach the tree in the center of everything, and you spot something as you get close enough, a shining suit of golden armor propped up against the tree... no, it's more like it's leaning on the tree. Using it for support as it protects it, the gauntlet of the suit of armor is clasped firmly around the hilt of a Golden Sword embedded into the ground.

You stare at the somewhat odd sight for a few seconds, before you place your hand on the trunk of the blossoming tree. As you do, the blossoms begin to fall from the tree, surrounding you like a whirlwind. The trunk is warm to the touch, and you can't help but warmly smile. So... this is what Sakura's internal world looks like? Just... looking at it makes you feel so... happy.
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You keep that feeling in your heart as you infuse a new concept into the heart of Sakura's existence, the tree providing support to the perfect knight valiantly protecting it. You understand that Sakura is already happy, so you decide the only concept that she could possibly utilize is... "Indomitability." The willpower she's already shown so much of, the inability to give up or surrender, no matter how difficult things might be for her, no matter how much she suffered. There's not a single person who is better suited to the concept than her. The concept that will allow her to prevail over anything that might try to wear her down or make her give up.

The flurry of cherry blossoms surrounding you increases in intensity as you infuse the tree with the concept, and you are almost blinded in the storm of petals as you finish your work, and the pink-white flurry gives way to pure white as you leave Sakura's internal world, staring down at Sakura, who has her eyes open wide while you kiss her, the glow from your pure eye seems to have dissipated quite a bit too, judging from the fact that she's not shying away from looking at you. You are almost overwhelmed with the changes done to Sakura as you look at her with your eye, and while she doesn't break off the kiss, you can tell she's quite surprised with what you just did.

Status Updated!

You kiss each other for only a few more seconds, before you finally draw away from your sister, the girl looks disappointed by the end of the kiss, but while you'd really love to forget the world around you and spend hours with her, that's not something that can happen right now. "I... keep breaking my promise to take things easy..." You say with no small amount of regret.

Sakura simply smiles at you. "You're still trying to keep your promise?" She looks really happy as she gets back on her feet. "Maybe I was a little rash in keeping you from being productive today... I... didn't expect that we'd actually be attacked like this..." She sounds apologetic about how things ended up turning out, but you shake your head.

"You couldn't possibly have known, Sakura. Besides, it wouldn't have made a bit of difference even if I had spent this entire day preparing as best I could. You saw Lancelot, right? I have no doubts that Manaka specifically modified him in order to be an opponent to Mordred, so all that would've happened if I had planned for the day would've been more counters to whatever I ended up putting in place." Manaka has clearly decided to stop playing around now, and she's finally taking things truly seriously. Not granting you an opportunity to even capture her Servants. She's really showing herself to be quite a bit more intelligent than you had initially assumed of her.
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"Well, I'm glad that you're not holding this against me, but... I feel like I should do something to keep everyone safe anyway..." With that, dozens of ribbons suddenly appear from just underneath Sakura, and in the blink of an eye, expand outwards before curving upwards until they all meet once again, curtaining everyone in a dome of red and black, dimly lit by a few magical lights dotting the room. "That should keep everyone safe for a while... I think... At least from somebody breaking in physically." Sakura doesn't sound entirely confident about the protective barrier, but... you believe that it should be enough, you doubt Jack is going to be able to breach through it.

"T-thank you, Sakura..." You're surprised by this extreme display of power Sakura just casually wielded, and it dawns on you just how powerful the girl has become. Sakura could destroy the entire world if she wished to, and it's unlikely that anybody could even stop her if she set her mind to it. Even the Grand Servants would fall against her, you think. After all, Sakura as she exists now can potentially become much more powerful than just Tiamat alone. Of course, the fact that Sakura has erected a barrier with Imaginary Numbers gives you just a little bit more time, if you want to concept another of your Servants, you might just be able to do so before Manaka can respond to this...

>Concept somebody else. (Who and with what?)
>Prepare for Manaka's counter attack. You can't afford to be off guard.
>Write-in...
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>>4873598
>concept Artoria with Arthuriana

ENTER, Gate of Camelot

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historia_Brittonum#Arthuriana

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Arthuriana

>>4873550
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>>4873609
Speedreader-sama I kneel.
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>>4873609
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>>4873611
Hey we have like 49 goddamned people in our group. It's hard to keep track when we pass this shit out like candy
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>>4873609
Batman, I...

>>4873598
this >>4873607
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>>4873615
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>>4873617
Was her concept when we made her human?
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>>4873615
mindlet
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>>4873618
what the fuck?
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>>4873622
When we made her into a non servant
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>Status Updated!
Everything went according to plan. Delightful.
>even should Tiamat start to rebel and use all of her power in an attempt to usurp control of her body, it would do little more than cause Sakura some slight discomfort.
Just AaaAAaaAAaaAAaAAaAAaaA my shit up. Jobbed again.
>>4873588
>>4873591
>it's possible that some aspects of her personality could be overwritten by the Mother Goddess even with that in mind
>You can feel the warm glow of a sunrise upon your bare skin, and... realize that for whatever reason, you're not wearing any clothing here.
Sakura`s conceptual core transforming into Garden of Eden? Interesting.
Can`t wait for us to meet Tiamat properly.
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>>4873618
We applied a concept to her so hard we nearly killed ourselves, how did you miss this?

Her concept is Time if you can't be arsed to read.
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>>4873629
Thanks.
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So Sakura is completely invincible now, only held back by her morality.
Neat. Hope she doesn't start thinking like us anytime soon.
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>>4873598
Supporting this >>4873607
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>>4873591
A blossoming tree with a knight in shining golden armor in the garden of Eden, and not a speck darkness anywhere. What a beautiful inner world.

>that charsheet
Damn, Indomitable Sakura is a beast. She was already strong, and now she's by far the strongest ally we have. We did good. Now we just need to make sure her smile never falters again.

>>4873607
Arhuriana's a great concept, but couldn't we do more to prepare for the coming wave before we apply it? Tell Sakura that we want her to capture whoever she can, tell Atalante to snap out of it and help protect the kids, stuff like that.

>>4873628
Don't worry mommy Tiamat. It's not like you'd ever want to attempt to usurp your host, would you?
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>>4873598
>>4873607
+1.

What's the worst that could happen?
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>>4873598
Supporting >>4873607
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>>4873646
gonna hope the npcs aren't retarded AI, I imagine concepting is a full update and we're now inside a powerful boundary.
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>>4873598
>>4873607
Support

>>4873654
I guess
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>>4873598
>>4873607
+1
Ecchan is cute.
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I wonder where BB is.
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>>4873598
Calling in ten I guess
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>>4873676
spats erotic
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>>4873679
>in all the commotion, Manaka has stolen BB and is now in the process of restoring and fine-tuning her powers
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>>4873690
nyarly says no
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>>4873684

>concept Artoria with Arthuriana
>>4873607
>>4873616
>>4873647
>>4873651
>>4873655
>>4873676

Unanimous.
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>>4873685
Indeed.
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Update tonight?
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With this, Sakura has given you the valuable time that you require to give another of your allies a conceptual upgrade, and you have a feeling just who might need the increase of power. Seeing as she's the greatest counter that you have to Lancelot right now, and he's become a massive pain in the ass to deal with, you decide that she's the one in dire need of a concept. Especially after seeing how powerful Mordred has grown, you wouldn't want her to start feeling envious of her own daughter... even though the odds of that happening are infinitely low. She seems kind of happy for Mordred, all things considered, the king has finally been allowed to understand the hearts of others thanks to Shirou, and thanks to the boy, finally learned to accept Mordred as her heir. Shirou

Then again, it's not really like she had much of a choice in the matter, Caliburn actually recognizing Mordred as a valid heir to the throne of Camelot may well have been the greatest shock she's ever suffered in her life. The fact that she denied her own child the position as heir to the throne of Camelot for no reason, that Mordred was all along capable of being a fine king by herself, and that her country fell apart all for nothing. The very fact that Caliburn recognized Mordred as king likely proved to Arturia that all along, she was the one in the wrong, the entire war was one where the Knight of Betrayal was the one whom justice would have sided with. An heir denied their right through no fault of their own. It's no wonder she reacted so poorly upon realizing what the Sword of Selection had actually done. Of course, it wasn't anger at Mordred, it was anger at herself, you imagine. It sure is a good thing that Shirou is around, the one person who can truly understand Arturia... well, technically one of two people, considering that there are kind of two Shirous present in this world because EMIYA but... nah, forget it.

"Thank you for putting up this barrier, Sakura, I... I need to make use of this time you've bought us wisely." You thank Sakura again quickly as you look towards Saber and Shirou, the soon-to-be married couple look mostly unaffected by Tesla's barrage of metal, it's very clearly a crowd control type Noble Phantasm meant for dealing with weaker targets, not for a room full of some of the most powerful people on the planet.
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"It's no problem, Onii-chan... I want to thank you as well... for... for everything." She smiles at you one last time and you meet it with one of your own before you turn around and begin to walk towards Shirou and Saber. The two of them quickly take note of your approach before you reach them, and halfway through, the spikes that remain on the floor disappear as Rin teleports them into... well it probably doesn't matter where they went. A few moments after the spikes disappear, the ribbons on the floor that expanded in width at the edge of the barrier similarly expand to cover the floor, acting as a carpet for the floor. Seems like Sakura didn't want to interrupt Rin's usage of the Second Magic, or that she didn't want to try to cut through that much metal with just her ribbons, which should have at least a small amount of difficulty cutting through so many of the spikes.

"Shirou! Saber!" You greet the two of them with a smile, and they both look at you with relief, seems like they both certainly appreciate the respite that Sakura's barrier is granting them both, of course, not being at threat of having a thousand little girls with knives trying to stab you in the throat is something that just about anybody would see relief in, unless they were seriously messed up. "We don't have long, so I'm going to keep this brief." You look Saber in the eyes as you continue talking. "Saber, you're just about our best shot at defeating Lancelot and capturing him non-lethally due to his specific weakness to you, so... I'm wondering if you'd allow me to apply a concept onto you that will increase your strength to ensure that you are capable of defeating him when the time comes." You look at the King of Knights with determination in your eyes. You don't really mind if she refuses, even if such a thing would be foolish of her to do. "If it works properly, then the concept I provide to you should give you all the strength you will ever need to protect Shirou and... your future family with him."
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"M-my... future family!?" Well, that much seems to have worked on getting Saber more... well, receptive to the idea of a concept, not that you really expected that she would've turned down the opportunity anyway. The world is at risk of being completely destroyed, and you don't imagine that Saber would allow anything to get in her way of protecting the man she loves. She looks at Shirou's almost thoughtless smile, the boy clearly feeling kind of awkward at having you decide his future for him. As if he can complain anyway, it's not like Saber is the sort of girl who'd not want to have a lot of children with a partner she actually loved. She composes herself a few seconds after the thoughts of an extended family with Shirou run their course through her mind, and looks at you with a calm expression. "Very well, I accept your offer, so how exactly is this done...?" Saber looks very hesitant after clearly having seen your application for Sakura, and you shake your head.

"I just need to touch you for ten seconds." You hold a hand out and grab one of Saber's shoulders, waiting for the prerequisite ten seconds before using your magic to draw yourself into the conceptual world of Arturia Pendragon, and everything goes white.

You're standing in yet another meadow, though this time is far more wild and imperfect than Sakura's own. Judging from the sun in the sky, it's early morning, and there's a single sword sticking out of a stone, Caliburn. Saber... couldn't really be making things more obvious as to what her conceptual core is. It's not the dragon inside of her like it was for Obeithion, no. The thing that sums up Saber's entire existence is that sword, the proof of her kingship, and the greatest turning point in her life is that blade. Without hesitation, you step up to the sword in the stone, grabbing it with one hand and applying the concept of "Arthuriana" as you begin to pull it. A concept that envelops basically all Arthurian myths and legends under a single word, you... don't quite know how this will change her, but with any luck, she'll be made a great deal more powerful thanks to the concept being as complimentary to her existence as possible.

You finish imbuing the concept into the blade, and at that moment, it slides free from the sword in the stone, and you're left holding Caliburn. It's a good thing that this is simply a recreation, honestly. You have absolutely no intent of ruling a place like England, and it would've been a real hassle if the Sword of Selection really had decided to choose you as a viable heir to the throne of Camelot. Luckily, you're just re-enacting the most important moment in the life of King Arthur through her conceptual world, and a few seconds after you draw the sword, you allow it to fall from your hands and land softly on the grassy ground, just in time for white light to engulf you and drag you back to the real world, where Arturia is staring at you with bewilderment.

Status Updated!
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"And done!" How are you feeling?" You smile at Saber, the woman clearly wasn't expecting that much of a change in her power. Yes, right now, this Arturia is more powerful than she ever was in life, the entire wealth and strength of her nation is at her beck and call.

"I'm feeling-" Suddenly, the woman tenses up, and she looks upwards, towards the roof of the barrier as she draws Excalibur.

"This... This magical power! It can't be, it's...!" Morgan is just as shocked as Saber as she looks upwards, and in that moment, you feel it too, shortly before seeing it. The tip of a gigantic drill like magical construct just tearing through the roof of Sakura's defensive barrier, and not being held back despite dozens more ribbons flying upwards to intercept it. "...Rhongomyniad!"

Despite Sakura's best efforts in slowing this attack down, it appears that it's no good, her ribbons alone can only delay the fall of this destructive attack, she might be able to manage it if she were to use a greater degree of strength, but it's a risk, the holy light seems to be obliterating the magic before it can truly reach it and apply the concept of Nullification. Should you have somebody else try to deal with this?

>Deal with stopping Rhongomyniad yourself, create a barrier of truth to stop it.
>See if you can absorb the full power of the spear with your holy circuits.
>Ask Sakura to use more of her power to push it back.
>Ask Gilgamesh to blow it away with Enuma Elish.
>Ask Enkidu to blow it away with Enuma Elish.
>Ask Saber to counter it with her own Rhongomyniad.
>Ask Mordred to counter it with Caliburn Camlann.
>Write-in...
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>>4873908
>>4873936
See if you can absorb the full power of the spear with your holy circuits.
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>King's Treasury - Arsenal of Camelot: E~EX Rank Noble Phantasms
>A Noble Phantasm gained through the application of the concept of Arthuriana. Thanks to this Noble Phantasm, Arturia not only has the ability to summon every single mount and treasure that was ever possessed by Camelot or a member of Britain under her rule, but she can also exert a certain degree of authority over them. Allowing for the negation of any Noble Phantasm that is in her vault, as well as the removal of said treasure from another wielder, even if Arturia herself never actually owned that particular treasure in life.

>King of Knights: EX
>A skill that represents Arturia's position as the King of Knights, if her opponent should be a Knight and is sane, they must succeed on a will check, or they will immediately surrender to her. Even on a successful will check, they will suffer rank downs to all of their parameters.
>The same applies for Knights of the Round table, but the will check is far harder to succeed, and even a success will result in all parameters being ranked down by a whole two ranks.
>If her opponent is a King themselves, then on a successful will check, their parameters are not ranked down.
>Also functions as Charisma at Rank B, allowing Arturia to easily lead a country or an army with great effect.

>Founder of the Round Table: EX
>A skill that represents Arturia as the Creator of the Order of the Knights of the Round Table. While the order didn't have an official head in order to create a platform of equality, Arturia, as the King of Britain, was of course still the de facto leader despite this. This skill allows for Arturia to copy and wield any skill belonging to anybody that has served as one of the knights of the Round Table. Even Personal Skills that are unique to those knights can be borrowed.
>The only restrictions on this skill is that Arturia can only copy a single skill at once and that this skill does not allow for the copying of skills gained through a concept application.
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>>4873936
JFC can rongo bongo just take a vacation why is it everywhere
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>>4873936
I was wrong. Manaka was busy turning Gray evil, not BB. I want to say take Arturia for a spin because of this:
>Excerpt from King's Treasury - Arsenal of Camelot: Allowing for the negation of any Noble Phantasm that is in her vault, as well as the removal of said treasure from another wielder, even if Arturia herself never actually owned that particular treasure in life.
If the concept was applied correctly, she should have Rhongomyniad in her own personal Gilgamesh Vault, allowing for gg no re negation of Gray's Rhongomyniad. Unless Gray's Rhongomyniad is different from the one used by Arturia. I am a lore manlet so I wouldn't know.

>Write-in...
>Arturia, Negate the incoming attack.
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>>4873964
An impressive update. JETS will get fucked when he shows up.

>>4873968
Anon, you should read the prompts more carefully. Having Saber counter with her own Rhongo is one of the default options. Problem is, Shirou has less mana to spare and she'll probably lose a straight contest.
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Shame Shinji never kept up with the archery club.

Truth arrow of "Ceasefire" memes this hard.

And we can't concept truth constructs because they're already made of a concept.

https://youtu.be/qiANLuvPb9o
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>>4873972
Counter read to me less like she'd negate the attack and more like she'd just unga bunga with her own attack, which is why I opted for write in to make it clear what I'd expect her to do.
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>>4873973
Man, having a ranged attack would have been so useful in just about every fight we've been so far. We're too squishy to be in the frontlines battling servants, and we've been spending a lot of effort trying to work around that.

Concept would take time too. Time that we don't have.

>>4873977
How do you expect her to negate the attack without firing a counterblast of her own?
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>>4873977
What if the way Gray was BLACKED was just destroying add and letting the goddess rhongobongo itself take her over? The goddess is the spear.

APEX once again jobs and fails to protect a little girl
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>>4873983
Whatever happened, APEX confirmed as not the apex of anything. Worst Arthur.
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>>4873980
It says in the skill that she negates any attack by a Noble Phantasm in her vault, I'd expect her to just will the attack out of existence the same way we negated Rin's taunting not-serious gem attacks by using our Truth to just deny their existence.
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>>4873936
>Have Artoria equip Galahad's shield and deploy Lord Camelot to tank the blast.

Artoria is absolutely jacked to the tits right now on HOPE, she has like EX+++ stats across the board right now. Even Mashit with fresh Galachad powers tanks Rhongo with it.
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>>4873983
If Rhongomyniad is here then I vote to brutally murder her after taking her away from Gray's body.
Fuck her and every other bodysnatcher.
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>>4873936
>>4873995
Support

Right, we don't need anything else. Time for GALACHAD's shield to shine!
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>>4873980
Cant we just buy a gun and concept the bullets
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>>4873989
She can negate the activation of a Noble Phantasm, but Rhongomyniad has already been fired.
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>>4873996
Ilya looks hungry
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>>4873996
We'll just have Illya hug Gray until she's had her fill of divine lion.

>>4874002
We have no idea how to shoot a gun, anon. Never held one in our lives.
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>>4873936
>>4873995
+1.

Don't be mean to Mash. Not her fault she's stuck in a shitty game.
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>>4873936
>>4873995
+1
A fucking magus tanked it, Rhong is weird.
Also, gray probably isnt using it at full power? Unless she somehow force broke the seals.
>>4874005
Very nice.
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>>4874004
Ah, I see. The Text in the skill doesn't make it clear that it can only prevent Nobel Phantasams from being fired though, at least to me. Maybe I just have brain damage then.

Jumping on and supporting the Shield Chads then >>4873995
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>>4874008
We should ask billy for tips.
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>>4874013
If she's been taken over by goddess Rhongobongo, the seals mean nothing.
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If she got taken over, did her breasts grow too?
I read that Rhongo increased Artoria's figure by prolonged exposure, not just Excalibur not stopping her aging.
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>>4874011
SOMEBODY ONCE TOLD ME MASH IS GONNA KEK (ME)
I AIN’T THE BIGGEST COCK IN THE THREAD
SHE WAS LOOKING KIND OF DUMB
WITH HER EYES AND HER TONGUE
POINTING ALL THE WAY TO HER FOREHEAD

WELL THE LIONS START CUMMING AND THEY DON’T STOP CUMMING
FED FAIRY GRASS AND SHE GOT A GOOD BUMMING
DOESN’T MAKE SENSE TO EAT THAT MUCH CUM
HER BRAIN FORGOT AND HER HEAD GOT DUMB
SO MUCH FOR (YOU), SO MUCH FOR (ME)
WHY THE FUCK IS SHE LETTING LIONS IN HER BACK STREETS
YOU’LL NEVER FORGIVE FGO
YOU’LL NEVER RECOVER FROM THE BTFO!

HEY NOW, YOU’RE A FURRY, GET YOUR SUIT ON, GO PLAY
HEY NOW, DON’T WORRY, NASU’S WINNING, GOT PAID
AND ALL THOSE ANONS THAT GOT TROLLED
JUST GIVE IT UP OR YOU’LL BE A KEKOLD
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>>4874013
Kirsh is a gigachad though. He had ZETE align the LB5 constellations to maximise his Animusphere magic
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>>4874026
Yeah, but he also was dying and got stabbed while blocking it.
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>>4874024
I don't get it.
I don't think I want to get it either.
Did she cuck the mc?
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>>4874031
Mash lost her memory and was captured by some bandits or something.
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>>4873925
>She seems kind of happy for Mordred, all things considered, the king has finally been allowed to understand the hearts of others thanks to Shirou, and thanks to the boy, finally learned to accept Mordred as her heir. Shirou
WHAT IS THIS CUT-OFF LINE SUPPOSED TO BE?! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>4873985
Do we actually know if Arthur was summoned?
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>>4874048
Uh, that was me getting over-excited to be writing the name of my favorite sword autist.
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>>4874047

>Mash gets separated from the group
>Mashu loses her memories
>Mashu collapses and is picked up by 3 slave trader goblins who give her a new name
>Mashu spends 10 days traveling with them, growing close
>They sell her to a fucking Lion king furry who exclusively fucks human females and has had 62 previous wives
>Has a bridal dress custom made for her, wants to fuck her right away and starts talking about taking her virginity in the bedroom
>Goblins stay around in the city and one of them kinda regrets selling her because she meant so much
>Random furry soldier talks about how he wants to confess to a human female too
>Mashu reunites with Guda
>Doesn't recognize him and is taken away by an elf noble into his castle while crying
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Speaking of Rhongo, isnt it and LB6 itself stupidly powerful? Like threaten the Alien God and destroy the physical, non-texture planet respectively.
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>>4873989
>the same way we negated Rin's taunting not-serious gem attacks by using our Truth to just deny their existence.
It's been kinda bugging me, when did we do that?

>>4874053
From the description of Gray's servant, it couldn't really be anyone else.
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>>4874055
I wonder how much time until the doujins.
Thats what guda gets for not at least kissing mashu.
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>>4874061
Were we ever told who Gray's servant is?
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>>4874073
Not told, but we have a description, and a description is all we need to identify just about anyone who is not an OC.
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>>4874067
Can't make him have a personality or love interest.
Everyone knows how much japan loves self inserts.
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>>4874080
Nasu is retarded.
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>>4873936
>>4873995
Support
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>>4873936
Tally somebody?
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>>4874060
It's not necessarily Rhongo that's the threat. But it can destroy trees.

Half of Shirou's wikiswords can also fell the trees though so meh

>>4874055
Lionchads rise up
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>>4874091

>>4873936

See if you can absorb the full power of the spear with your holy circuits.
>>4873950

>Arturia, Negate the incoming attack.
>>4873968

>Have Artoria equip Galahad's shield and deploy Lord Camelot to tank the blast.
>>4873995
>>4874000
>>4874011
>>4874013
>>4874090

>Deal with stopping Rhongomyniad yourself, capture her
But first
>Have Artoria equip Galahad's shield and deploy Lord Camelot to tank the blast.
>>4874007
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Shirou and Artoria now have a whole bunch of horses, dogs and also Sir Ywain's pet lion among other things.
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>>4874100
Thank fuck they'll have a whole forest in Germany for their zoo to roam in.
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Anyone have any pregnant or breast expansion pics of sakura?
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>>4874103
Have you tried panda or some booru?
Pregnant pics of the FSN girls are quite rare, a shame.
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>>4873964
YOOOOOOOO, thank u QM for the impressive power up to Artoria
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>>4874111
Yeah its weird right? It's implied that Shirou got Rin pregnant in HA and Sakura is Sakura

>>4874100
She also has a dagger that can turn her invisible so NEW STEALTH WEAPON BOYS, don't have to bum Ciel's shit
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>>4873964
Oh god, this means that Artoria can copy knight of owner.
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>>4874140
I guess the majority don't have the same pregnant girl fetish that i have.
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>>4874140
>implied that Shirou got Rin pregnant in HA
Where in HA?
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>>4874154
It's just odd because it's there and it's a popular series it's so weird

>>4874156
When they fucked
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>>4874108
Pure coincidence, I don't post in fgog or alter, only lurk.
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>>4874140
She has an invisibility cloak, her mantle. Read through the pastebins I linked earlier in the thread.
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>>4874245
This quest made me like Sakura I like that she’s happy bros
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>>4874108
I sometimes see some of you fuckers on other boards, you use the same names for your files
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>>4874285
I know a lot of people browse /a/.

Also, Seibah concept neighsayers btfo.

Go look at her class now
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>>4874306
Protect her anyway and desperately hold off accidentally knocking her up.
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>>4874306
Use Alaya as a conduit to concept humanity as a whole and elevate them better than Kirsh could.
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"Arturia! Galahad's Shield! Use it to deploy Lord Camelot to protect everyone from the blast!" You remind Saber of just what her new abilities allow her to do, and the woman, who was previously looking stunned at the fact that her own weapon was being wielded against her, quickly hardens her expression. Materializing hovering in the air with a glow of blue light appears Galahad's shield, the core of the Round Table, which Saber quickly attaches to her left arm as she charges towards the point the spear will impact.

"Lord Camelot!" Saber shouts out the name of the Noble Phantasm as she raises the shield above her head just before it makes contact with the point of the divine spear's attack, and in that moment, illusory images of the mighty walls of Camelot appear around Arturia, the king being defended by the walls of her own castle against the purging holy light of the destructive spear. The great blue barrier erected by the shield standing firm against the attack of the pillar of light, even as Saber visibly strains to push back against the full power of the Noble Phantasm, the barrier erected by Sakura continues to unravel, the purging light of the Holy Spear banishing her magic and leaving you defenseless to the attacks of Manaka and her enslaved servants once again.

Finally, just as you consider that it might be wise to intervene to further assist Saber, she leaps upwards, into the attack with her shield still raised towards Rhongomyniad, the shield acting as a battering ram for her as she pulverizes the attack, causing the strands of energy that make up Rhongomyniad's strike to come undone, before they rapidly dematerialize.

Saber lands on the floor once again, the attack of the spear having been dissipated, however, her expression is truly grave. "That... attack. It was Rhongomyniad at nearly its full power, I barely managed to hold it back with Lord Camelot, this... wasn't fired by a normal Servant, this could only have been fired by..."

"A goddess?" A familiar sounding voice sounds out into the room, as the barrier put in place by Sakura finally fully fades, and you turn to face the figure, seeing a woman in dark gray armor, with piercing blue eyes and a mane of silver white hair. A black cloak fluttering about her shoulders as she looks at Saber with a set of piercing eyes. Saber takes a step backwards in surprise at the arrival of another woman who shares her face, but... realizes just what must've happened from looking at this woman, feeling the familiar aura of her Holy Spear emanating from the better developed woman standing before you. Behind the woman are a tremendous amount of Servants, hundreds of Shadow Servants and Jack Copies obscuring your vision from the true Servants, and thus the most dangerous of the enemies avoid your sight. Things could be about to get violent.
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"You're... Goddess Rhongomyniad! What did you do to Gray?!" You suddenly point at the woman, unable to contain your anger at the idea of yet another of your friends being turned into the unwilling puppet of a goddess.

"Gray...? You're talking about my host, aren't you? My, you really are quite well informed, aren't you? I see now why that girl had such an interest in you... 'Gray' isn't dead, if that's what you're wondering, she's just... sleeping forever." You grit your teeth in hatred as the goddess turns to Arturia next. "Don't try to attack me, 'Master'." There's danger in her voice as she looks at Arturia. "You ought to realize that I'm quite a bit out of your league, I'm not somebody that a mortal like yourself can defeat." You actually somehow doubt that. In fact, you'd probably give Arturia favorable odds if it did come to blows. You can tell just how powerful Rhongomyniad is, after all, and the only real advantage she has over Saber is the magical energy available to her.

"You know, you sure do talk big for somebody who's outnumbered and outgunned, you dumb spear." You insult the goddess, who looks unamused by your words.

"Your insults aside, I'm here to discuss things on behalf of the girl I... currently serve." There's hesitation in her voice as she says that, clearly, Rhongomyniad isn't quite as loyal to Manaka as one might expect. "If you're willing to listen to her demands, that is." Out of the corner of your eye, you can see Waver's gaunt looking face, his eyes filled with a terrible sadness, in fact, everyone he brought with him are hiding barely suppressed scowls. Gilgamesh has a wild expression in his eyes, as if he can't wait for the fighting to begin for once, looks like something about this goddess has managed to rile him up.

>"Fine, I'll hear you out first."
>"Gilgamesh, Enkidu, the chains, please."
>"Arturia, discipline your spear."
>"Get the fuck out of my house."
>"...Let's shake on it." (Try to apply a concept to her with a handshake.)
>Write-in...
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God dammit. This fucking bitch.
Any way to fuck her over without her escaping?
We must assume Jets, Diarmuid and the others are there too.
I really don't want to even hear what she has to say. I know QM likely wants us to negotiate with her and crap, but I really don't care.
FUCK RHONGOMYNIAD.
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>>4874399
>Write-in...

"You have 20 seconds to say what you need to or I'll turn you into a sewing needle."

Given that it takes us 10 seconds to apply a concept, I say we immediately begin turning the house into a sanctuary again. The remaining 10 seconds we spend bullshitting. If we make rhong think we need 20 seconds to activate our power, that gives us precious time and an edge over manaka if she's listening in.
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restcucks btfo

Imagine not wanting to workchad today. Easy to assume APEX is blacked now too
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>>4874399
Hear her out while checking on Medea’s away team via mental link
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>>4874024
This ntr meme is going way too far.
Seriously I wonder how many people are actually fucked up enough to be into it and how many just pretend to be or bring it up to spite others.
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>>4874422
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>>4874399
>Activate the Pure Eye of Truth and comprehensively scan Rhongo and those behind her in your line of sight
>Tell her you'll hear her out, but if she tries anything Gil and Enkidu will see to it that it's a mutual destruction. Mention its somewhat sad to see the Lion King Goddess being led around by a child as a mere messenger
>while she blogs, ask Betty through the mental link about Beaky's capabilities/NP
>Ask Chiyome about the status of the barrier/8fold blessing through the mental link

Beaky is gonna spook the fuck out of Rhon when he gets a chance at her, and trying to do anything funny to her gets you killed like this: https://youtu.be/ZoNs6N8BqY8

Once the boundary is up we can then apply a concept to it as well, maybe Ceasefire or something and completely cuck combat again like Sanctuary would have, demand a proper dialogue.

Also, sending Artoria here is a mistake, we need her for JETS.

Manaka knows about concepting, the handshake is a trap.

Manaka had clae enslaved before, she's well aware of Gil. Both of these are a trap, probably, although clae can't be captured again.

This is like the one time jannu would have actually been useful, because she could have instantly deployed Luminosite Eternal and we could have concepted it with Ceasefire so it'd both gigachad protection: EX and a zone of no fighting like Nightingale's NP. It would also fit Jannu really well conceptually because le huwite flag
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>>4874714
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>>4874399
Supporting >>4874714
If Barrier/8Fold Blessing goes up next update we will just concept it to capture Rhongo.
Our Sanctuary was quite useful so stronger concept could work even better and we get enough to make it work from it`s activation. Something like Heaven for example could work. Anti-Evil, anti-violence, anti-people just dying in horrible ways. Good match with Tamamo`s and Chiyome`s style of magecraft.
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>Initially known only as the nameless White Knight (Blanc Chevalier), clad in silver steel on a white horse,[28] the young Lancelot (claiming to be 18 years old, although it later revealed how he is really only 15[29]) arrives in Arthur's kingdom of Logres with the Lady of the Lake to be knighted by the king at her behest. The Lady gives him a powerful magic ring able to dispel any enchantment (as his anonymous fairy foster mother also does in Chrétien's version; later parts of the Vulgate Lancelot instead retcon this as given to him by Guinevere[30]), among other enchanted items with various abilities (including a lance and a sword, a tent, and a mirror). She and her damsels also continue aiding him in various ways throughout the Vulgate Lancelot. In the Vulgate, the White Knight later takes the name of his grandfather, King Lancelot, upon discovering his identity.[31] In the Post-Vulgate, where Lancelot is no longer the central protagonist, he instead comes to Arthur's court alone and almost defeats the king himself on their first meeting without knowing his identity (Arthur's magic sword, meant to be used only for the sake of the kingdom and justice, may be broken either in this fight or the one against King Pellinore). He eventually is made a member of Arthur's elite Round Table after releasing the king's nephew Gawain from enemy captivity.
Rhongo carries even more spaghetti pockets due to host being Gray.
Propose to her, ask Artoria for that one ring Lancelot had, and give it to Rhongo, Manaka`s contract is instantly broken by that ring, Rhongo is back in Spear and we take Spear for ourselves.
We get autistic Spear and our version of this
>Protection of the Ends of the World: A
>Arturia possesses the Holy Lance that exists as an anchor to the planet and is receiving divine protection from the Farthest Ends itself. Other than Mana and Luck, all parameters temporarily rank up during battle, even when Rhongomyniad isn't being wielded as a weapon, this protection still applies.
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>>4874399
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>>4874803
we'll propose to her next update instead
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>>4874794
Ring of Dispel should work like Rule Breaker, yeah. Does she need to wear it to work? If it's just touch Artoria could toss it to Rhongo. Or can it maybe be used at range?
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>>4874807
It is a ring. You need to wear it for it to work.
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>>4874810
That is not always the case. Plenty of magical rings that do their thing on touch, or have a ranged effect
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>>4874810
I found the passage where Lancelot actually uses the ring. It protects him from enchantments and allows him to see through an illusion, so it needs to be worn, yes.
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>>4874794
What if it just frees her from being Manakucked and our new wife kidnaps us?
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>>4874915
Then Sakura grabs her without Manaka there to CS teleport her away.
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>>4874918
And if she's too slow and Rhongo escapes?
She can summon Servants with just her own power too.
Taming Goddess Rhongomyniad and making her a housewife might be hard.
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>>4874915
Spear is not dumb and would want to take revenge on Manaka. If this does not make her release Gray we just negotiate with her for release of Gray.
Either promise to wield her as our weapon or show her Argo and tell we can make her body too. Won`t be that hard since she is predisposed towards us.
Plus she can`t really escape from here anyway.
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So..

Rhon is the leader of the Wild Hunt. Merlin states this at the very start of the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXVhfwGR6LU

As is Odin, so syncretism memes between the two.

Odin loves when people are smart and trick him, he loves when people gift him things, and he also loves drinking. But he only drinks wine in particular. He vomited up the mead of poetry, I already had a look over that.

But.. Artoria has access to this, one of the Thirteen Treasures of Britain:
>The Horn of Brân Galed
>The Horn of Brân Galed ("the Stingy" or "the Niggard") from the North is said to have possessed the magical property of ensuring that "whatever drink might be wished for was found in it".[4]

So, as Rhon is super fucking spaghetti we borrow the horn and the ring of dispel from Artoria. Then have the horn fill with a kino wine and toss it to Rhon. Then, after she chugs and enjoys some conceptually desired booze in her new humanoid form for the first time in potentially millennia, and is very grateful for her gift (odin-trait syncretism) we propose to her and slip on the ring of dispel, which, by definition

>The Lady gives him a powerful magic ring able to dispel any enchantment

At a minimum, it breaks the contract to Manaka. It might also just disconnect Gray and Rhon from one another on top of that, and we can loot the spear for ourselves. If all it does is cuck Rhongo, Sakura and or many others can easily bind her with their anti-divine binders with Manaka's connection removed. Then she can be Truth'd and Erosion'd by Morgan to free Gray.

Also, Rhon stacks incredibly well with Shinji. Holychad energy, he can't be mind controlled, texture of the planet to keep whatever reality he wants pinned down. Also, it's a ranged weapon, something Shinji has been sorely lacking.

Thoughts/amendments?

This is for the next update, depending on what happens with Rhon's answer here.
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>>4874933
Only if we can give her the ability to take human form again.
We can concept her with personification or humanoid or something.
I don't want to turn a wife into a spear.
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>>4874942
Concept of personification, or have Betty make her a body etc.

Plenty of ways to do so
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>>4874943
How will Sakura take us proposing to a woman we only just met?
Who we insulted?
Are we Tsundere for speartits?
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>>4874933
All myths are pretty much on point.
>>4874942
Won`t be that hard to get her a concept or solution to allow to switch between Spear form and Human form. It is pretty common trope too.
Bajiquan also allows us to be really good with spears so it is extra satisfaction for her to be used by us in a fight.
On top of it she likely will be able to talk with us in our head if we claim her as our weapon and since we no-sell her influence it is another chad moment just how we did with all other love-me type of Servants like Medusa`s sisters.
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>>4874949
It's a ruse to dab on Rhon because she's spaghetti. Sakura's seethe makes the proposal appear genuine and it'll make her grab her immediately in her ribbons if something goes wrong.
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>>4874933
Huh, that might actually work. Alright, so we tell Artoria we need the horn, use Tamamophone beforehand to tell her to give us the ring of dispel as well so Rhongo doesn't hear us. Use Tamamophone to inform everyone to be ready to bind her as soon as we give them the chance too.

We'll need a way to prevent Manaka from interfering, so we could tell her if she minds us putting a bubble of Truth around the two of us. I imagine she won't have a problem, she can destroy us in a one on one fight anyway.

The spear will be the perfect addition to our kit. We NEED a ranged weapon, and you can't get a better one than Rhongo. And if she's banished from Gray, I imagine she'll leave some gifts behind, like Ishtar left to Illya. Gray will be even stronger than she was when she had to rely on Add to not get overwritten by the spear.

>>4874949
She won't like it, that's for sure. We were evasive when she talked about marriage earlier. But she'll understand and forgive us if it's a trick to save Gray. I don't like making her upset anon, I really don't, but I don't see a better option here.
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Since spears are made for piercing, human form of Rhongo should have a dick.
I mean is there any reason why she should be a woman when she’s no longer possessing someone?
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>>4874956
Gray already has a Dragon Core as of Artoria's original summoning. Rhon's presence might have upgraded it to a Divine Core.

>>4874961
Futa
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>>4874963
Divine Core is the least. Illya got some of Ishtar's and Eresh's powers too beyond just a divine core. Gray will probably become Goddess Rhongomyniad lite, able to fire blasts off her hand and send people flying.
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>>4874961
Residing memory and desires. Why did Argo became girl?
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>>4874966
I can’t off the top of my head come up with a language where ships and boats would not be referred to as female though

>>4874963
I can see it desu
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RIP MY NIGGA ADD

Kay was a chad, and you were a pretty good copy.

Morgan can take Gray on as an apprentice too, she owes her that much to unfuck her life after what her cult of siscon put her through.

Also, Artoria aesthetics + Dragon/potential Divine Core. Gray probably has huge potential to inherit from Pendragon magical techniques
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Wait is Gray a Futa right now?
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>>4874969
It's all Morgan's fault. She should have made him more durable, but she was too retarded to do it properly. We'll encourage her to make amends, though she'll probably want to do it anyway. I imagine Gray will want to stay with Waver, she likes him too much to leave him. But having Morgan instruct her too will definitely be useful for her.
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>>4874969
>Gray became a goddess purely accidentally without any retarded plan required.
I wonder how hard Shartless is seething from beyond the grave rn.
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>>4874973
Man, I wish we'd have gone to the Case Files so we could dab on him in person. Seeing Waver seethe at us knowing the whole plot before he did his Sherlock thing would have been hilarious too.
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>>4874970
Waver hopes not..? Maybe? But then DUDE probably broke him already. Rhon forma de Artoria just had big booba.Which indicates female spirit. That or it enhances the equipment of the user, so APEX probably has a huge rhongo and so might Shinji if he equips it.
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>>4874968
It varies from country to country. Ex-Warsaw pact countries prefer male names and identity for ships, germans do that too, Italians swing both ways and greeks prefer male names for ships too as far as I am aware.
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>>4874983
Does Argo have a futa cock too?
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>>4874983
>greeks prefer male names for ships too as far as I am aware
You have been informed wrong. Female names are more prevalent than male ones for greek ships, though male and other names are used as well. Argo is a female name in greek, for example.
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Finally, a good spear to use.
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>>4874984
Why do you think Jason is afraid of Argo?
>>4874986
Wasn`t it named after city of Argos?
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Baijiquan finally not being a dead skill slot on the character sheet.

Speaking of dead skill slots

ENTER:
>Appraisal of Treasure: C+
A skill denoting Shinji's proficiency in determining the names and abilities of unknown Noble Phantasms. Is C+ situationally when Shinji is given the opportunity to properly study a Noble Phantasm. Thanks to his knowledge of literally hundreds of different Noble Phantasms, understanding Noble Phantasms is far easier for Shinji than it would be for practically any other magus, with some exceptions.

Mogged utterly by Goldenchad Truth Eye
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>>4874993
Argo was named in honor of her builder, Argos. But it is still a female name. In Greek, her builder is "ο Άργος" and the ship is "η Αργώ". There are male and female versions of most names. As a random example, Constantine in Greek is "Κωνσταντίνος", or Constantinos and it can be used as a female name as "Κωνσταντίνα", or Constantina.
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Why is Artoria's spear so autistic anyway?
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>>4875007
Doesn't socialise much, main host is also pretty autistic and indifferent to people when acting as king and it's a royal regalia.

Also, gods are just odd. They're fundamentally inhuman and don't process emotions properly
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>>4875009
So are we sure trying to offer marriage is a good idea?
Not sure if I want the burden of our main weapon trying to have sex with us.
I bet Sword of Truth-chan wouldn't try to rape us.
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>>4875013
The marriage offer is literally just bait when she's mentally vulnerable to slip on a ring that will cancel out the enchantments placed upon her, including Manaka's contract. Odin syncretism says she'll want to repay a gift, we insist on marriage and slip on the ring while she's mid spaghetti drop.

It's a proposal because why else would we have a reason to slip a ring on her? Also, in canon Rhongobongo doesn't even remember Bedi's name when he's right in front of her after revealing himself. She won't remember some niche ring that doesn't even appear in prior nasu works.
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I want to impregnate Rhongo just like Stella did in the movie.
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>>4875018
Real talk.
Can a spear get pregnant?
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>>4875022
I don't know, but the patterns look almost like scales so it might be up the snakecharmer's alley
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>>4875022
Rewatching it, it really is like a coom arrow in a womb of spear. I guess this is how we know the spear is female?

https://youtu.be/2bGcfg8nxI8
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>>4875025
If we ever go to Heian Kyo how long does it take us to seduce Ibuki?
>"Hey babe I killed your dad wanna bang?"
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>>4875028
Well she kneels to snakecharmer pretty much immediately going by Shinji's track record. Even easier than her sister Shuten as she's actually snake based.
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>>4875025
>Wild Hunt syncretism
>Odin syncretism
>Spear that holds the World
>Spear of the end
>Snakecharmer
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>>4875029
How much does Doucuck kneel to us?
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>>4875029
>>4875030
Lol nvm Rhon is like 2 steps away from being a snake anyway. Rhon!Jormungandr just needs a little bit of norse juice

>>4875031
I keep voting to dab on him in carnivals but no one is interested.
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>>4875033
It's gonna be a while, but we'll dab on the clown when we visit his LB to yank their tree.
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>>4875033
We should take Ibuki back with us if we go to LB5.5
Ourobora needs a better big sis than Shuten.
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>>4875033
Yet another Chaoskampf moment.
Gray being sibyl also empowers Wild Hunt aspects of Spear so more Odin is around.
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>>4875041
Shirou can only get so erect if he sees her sword. He doesn't have the Kusanagi wikidumped into his brain yet because that all happened after the isekai cutoff date.
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>>4875044
He already got the big boner when he saw our shining sword.
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>>4875048
he also dojo'd himself trying to trace it.

Kusanagi gives murachanga such a hard on he spends his whole life trying to recreate it. He ditches every single inferior copy straight to the trash upon completion in pursuit of it. So I imagine Shirou will also get tight pants.
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I sincerely hope all this bullshit about proposing to her is just a trap to kill her.
I don't like the harem to begin with, but I adamantly refuse to let Rhongo live, let alone join us.
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>>4875051
We can be Shirou's sword dealer, always finding a new hit.
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>>4875051
That's because Murachungus is an autistic retard who shits his pants at an A+ rank Anti-Army/Anti-Fortress NP.
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>>4875059
The spear is a tool that synergises really well with Shinji's needs
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>>4875064
This really. As I said, finally a good fucking spear.
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>>4875059
I hate the harem too anon, but the proposal is just a ruse and the spear is too useful to just kill it. Its power is something we really, really need if we're to take on Manaka.
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>>4875067
>>4875064
You realize the more powerful we get the more qm has to up Manaka's power to not make it a stomp?
It's dificulty scaling bullshit. We already more op allies and powers that anyone would ever need. That any story writer would even consider.
This is my biggest problem with the quest so far. People refuse to actually kill any enemy, always trying to get them on their side. So qm has to keep throwing more shit at us to compensate. Look how many fucking people were at our party.
No. I don't want Rhongo here, and adding another fucking character to the harem is out of the question for me.
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>>4875078
Manaka scales infinitely

If you kill one of Manaka's servants there is every chance she can just resummon them infinitely. This was the case from the very start, seeing as she hijacked the greater grail. The only exceptions were stuff summoned outside the use of the grail system, but being a rootchad, who is to say she won't just succcc the souls up and use them herself?
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>>4875078
Meh. With that attitude might as well not do anything
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>>4875078
This particular Rhongo didn't do anything wrong yet.
She has autism.
But she's good aligned.
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>>4875078
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyBEBVEMweI
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>>4875084
>>4875088
She's using Gray's Body and the spear to have Rhongo here.
Have Ilya suck Rhongo, and let Gray and the spear itself intact.
That's what I assumed you'd suggest. I can ignore or accept most "befriend enemy" votes, but I cannot back down from this.
I refuse to let Rhongo live. You are not convincing me to let go of this.
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>>4875092
Go read lore on how Odin = Wild Hunt = Rhongo's reaction would be to the chad bravery trickster vs the virgin hides behind a loli idea.

How do you intend to capture Rhon to let Ilya give her the succ, anon?
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>>4875092
>I refuse to let Rhongo live. You are not convincing me to let go of this.
Good for you, then?
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>>4875092
This isn't even the Rhongo you hate, seething retard.
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>>4875092
How is this Spear related to the one you hate from Camelot in FGO?
She certainly has not consumed Gray and don`t really like Manaka.
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Should we also destroy Arturia's copy of Rhongomyniad because "I hate spears reeee"?
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>>4875098
Rhongo in FGO was only as awful as she was because of the Human Incineration anyway.
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I do like how our Shinji hates evil gods, and having people he cares for getting puppeted... But will ignore all of that if he wants a new waifu or power up.
Fuck it. If I'm in the minority here then enjoy your new spear god wife. I'll just wait until this is over.
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>>4875114
Rhongo isn't evil, and she wasn't the one who decided to possess Gray.
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>>4875114
Rhon was contained within Add until Manaka went and broke him. She literally dindu nuffin yet. Go read the plan so far, it exists to separate Manaka's connection first, then part the spear from Gray and give it to Shinji who is unable to be mindraped and needs a pointy stick for his specific martial arts.

You're seething over something that isn't there anon. Rhon could have obliterated Gray's personality but instead decided to tell us she just supressed her. Are you upset Gray has booba now?
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wait a sec

why are we waffling on rhongobongo, just kill the one possessing gray and have seibah give us one from her gate of camelot
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>>4875122
Why not have two?

The only way to kill Rhon right now is to kill Gray. Manaka has Merlin's clairvoyance, she would have seen what Ilya can do. She already made a counterJETS to deal with Mordred. Ilya isn't safe to vore Rhon until we separate her away from Manaka's control. We saw with JETS that she'll haipply just use a CS to simply move someone a few hundred meters for convenience
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You need two rhongobongos for this absolute meme anti TYPE weapon anyway

https://typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Etherspace,_Howbeit_the_Order
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Give one good reason why this particular Rhongo deserves to die.
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>>4875130
Gray is meant to be flat OUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH EROTIC
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>>4875132
Killing Rhon won't kill her huge funbags.
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>>4875121
>>4875132
I like boobs more than flat. I don't like bodysnatching gods. There's no reason to believe she's any diferent from the other one. The only reason she hasn't deleted Gray is because then she'd be dead without a way to save her.
Again, you won. I won't vote. Do whatever you please.
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>>4875137
Anon, please. The spear is both too useful to just kill it, and not as bad as Ishtar was. Rhongo didn't mean to possess Gray, it's Morgan's fault for not making Add more durable, and Manaka's for breaking it. She didn't eat Gray's mind when she easily could have, not because she had to keep Gray alive, but because Rhongo is not evil. She doesn't deserve to die, she deserves to be put to work actually saving the world.
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>>4875137
>bodysnatching gods
Literally all Manaka's work. Rhongo is just a spear.
>There's no reason to believe she's any diferent from the other one.
Why? Completely different circumstances.
>The only reason she hasn't deleted Gray is because then she'd be dead without a way to save her.
Yes?
And she hasn't eaten Gray's mind.
So...?
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>>4875137
>because then she'd be dead without a way to save her.
Also, we would have a way to save her even if Rhongo had eaten her mind. Eresh. Eresh could have resurrected Gray from the traces of her soul remaining in her corpse. This wasn't WhatIs being merciful, it was Rhongo being benevolent. She's not as bad as you think. She genuinely loves humanity, she's just too much of an emotionless autistic robot.
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>>4875153
>>4875149
>>4875143
If you want me to believe she's a dindu, then give me a reason other than speculation.
I'll wait for qm to actually write something.
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>>4875153
>She genuinely loves humanity, she's just too much of an emotionless autistic robot.
In other words she's our soulmate.
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>>4875155
I have given you reasons anon. Gray is still alive. Rhongo didn't eat her. Ishtar would have eaten Illya if Chiyome hadn't gotten there in time, but that's not the case here. Rhongo could have eaten Gray if she wanted, and the only thing we could do would be to kill her and have Eresh resurrect Gray. But she didn't do it. She legit didn't do it.
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Futa is evil cease the homo, this shit is Merlin tier.
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>>4875189
Sucking your wife's cock is literally the least gay thing in the universe, gaylord.
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>>4875193
Arturia would say otherwise, no trash magic from us. That is Merlin and Merlin alone that stoops to that level.
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>>4875193
Fag
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>>4875208
I bet Artoria has already asked Merlin for her magic cock back so she can peg Shirou and maybe fuck Rin too.
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>>4875215
You tranny lovers are subhuman, fitting seeing your progenitor.
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Calm down guys, I don't think WhatIs actually intends to make her futa anyway. Besides she doesn't have a spare body yet so if/when we get to that point we'll have to arrange one for her/it.

Or she simply stays a (talking?) spear
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>>4875221
Futa isn't gay, Rorschach.
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>>4875224
It is gay, that is the truth, cease your lying or I'm getting my cleaver.
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>>4875223
I'd be fine if she just stays a talking spear.
Then again, she looks like Titoria so it's not like I don't get why people want her around.
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Tally?
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>>4875276

>>4874399
>Write-in.
"You have 20 seconds to say what you need to or I'll turn you into a sewing needle."
>>4874420

Hear her out while checking on Medea’s away team via mental link
>>4874681

>Activate the Pure Eye of Truth and comprehensively scan Rhongo and those behind her in your line of sight
>Tell her you'll hear her out, but if she tries anything Gil and Enkidu will see to it that it's a mutual destruction. Mention its somewhat sad to see the Lion King Goddess being led around by a child as a mere messenger
>while she blogs, ask Betty through the mental link about Beaky's capabilities/NP
>Ask Chiyome about the status of the barrier/8fold blessing through the mental link
>>4874714
>>4874765
>>4874802
>>4874809
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>>4875277
You missed the knock option but yours won anyway
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>>4875276
Gay trannys need a gas chamber
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>>4875291
Ah, I'm sorry anon. I didn't notice your vote in >>4874704 after >>4874422 changed his vote with >>4874809. If you want to be sure that your vote is counted, please link to the prompt, even when supporting someone else.
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>>4875328
Ah didn't see he changed his.
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As you look at the woman, waiting for a few moments before giving her an answer, you focus your magical energy into your Pure Eye of Truth in order to get a better read on the woman, while the spear itself is currently not visible, you should be able to get a good enough read on her physical abilities, other than her magical energy. It's... well, you don't really want to call it overwhelming, because you've been in the presence of both Sakura as well as Alítheia, who are both also on this level, so... you suppose that you'll just have to settle for calling it whelming. Right, you're sufficiently whelmed.

[Status Updated!]

Rhongomyniad raises an eyebrow at you as your eye shines a little brighter, and you get a more comprehensive readout of just what the Goddess is capable... oh, yeah, she's definitely powerful, that much is true, but strong enough to defeat Saber after you applied a concept to her that granted her a complete arsenal of everything that ever belonged in Camelot? For all you know, Saber can just drop Castles on top of peoples heads right now. Now to mention that with the Hope boost granted to her by Obeithion, Saber would likely easily be able to match Rhongomyniad, at least in a physical battle. If things came down to magical output, the Goddes Rhongomyniad would obviously win. Though Saber has far more versatility through the Arsenal of Camelot...

"Are you finished gawking at me yet? That eye of yours, I can quite easily tell that you were trying to determine the vast gulf in strength that exists between the two of us." The Goddess in Gray's body seems to have developed a great deal of arrogance and confidence in her own powers, and while this Rhongomyniad is technically free of the sins of the Goddess within the Camelot Singularity, you can't exactly hide your taste for her.

"You're not that impressive, Rhongo." You smirk at the Goddess, who frowns again. "Honestly, compared to Orochi? You're just another Goddess." Her frown deepens as you take her lightly, and you keep smirking. "I'll hear you out, and see what Manaka has to say for herself, but if you try anything then Gilgamesh and Enkidu here will see to it that it is mutually assured destruction." Together, two of them could put up a decent fight against even Beast class Servant, and potentially overcome them, as they once overcame the only Divine Beast possessed by the Gods of Babylonia that would have been capable of stalling Tiamat.
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"Very well, I'm glad that you've decided not to battle, I would hate to have to go against her wishes and kill you unless absolutely necessary." Rhongomyniad seems to be trying to be charismatic, and... is completely failing at doing so. Wow, you knew her Charisma was bad, but... this bad? Good grief, she really doesn't understand humans at all, does she? "That girl wishes for you to agree to meet her tomorrow, alone. She promises you that no harm will come of you, and that she will be happy to call off her current attack if you agree to a geas that will..." You let Rhongomyniad keep telling you the terms, but you can't be bothered to listen to the specifics of the geas spell, it's mostly self-explanatory, though with the stipulation that the geas will engrave itself upon your heart, and will explode if it is disobeyed or broken.

You're more interested in talking with your allies as you allow Rhongomyniad to tell you the specifics of the spell. 'Betty, do you know what Beaky's Noble Phantasm is? I'd like to know if it could help here.' You don't really even know if the newly formed Paladin has something that could be called a Noble Phantasm, but it can't hurt to ask.

'Sorry papa, he said he doesn't want to reveal it unless absolutely necessary, he said it was for my sake. Betty answers you quickly through the mental link, and you feel like frowning but don't, not wanting to interrupt Rhongomyniad's droning on about the conditions and requirements of Manaka's offer. You're glad that she's so hopeless when it comes to handling over people, otherwise she might have been suspicious by your occasional nodding.

Not wanting to waste time, you quickly switch to talking to another of your Servants, namely Chiyome. 'Give me some good news Chiyome, tell me that the barrier is almost ready. You ask the ninja, hoping that the new bounded field is close to being activated. It will provide a powerful defensive boost to all of your allies, with any luck, in addition to severely weakening Jack and causing the Fog to be unable to enter the ruins of your dining hall.

'It's almost done, my lord! Just give Tamamo and I a few more minutes and it will be ready to activate! Chiyome reveals some good news, just a few more minutes? You might be able to manage that.
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"...so, what is your answer? Do you accept this geas and the ceasefire that comes with it, or do you wish for the night's hostilities to continue?" Rhongomyniad finally finishes her longwinded explanation about the geas that Manaka would place on you, but from what you understand, it's the sort of thing that you couldn't have removed without suffering lethal consequences as the great deal of magical energy contained within the geas exploded outwards, or something like that... maybe you should've been paying more attention?

>"Alright, fine. I accept this condition."
>"Can I have a few minutes to think about it?"
>"Alright, but we'll shake on it, that's a... western tradition, right?" (CONCEPT HER)
>"You must be thirsty, can I offer you a drink? You are technically a guest under my... roof."
>Write-in...
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>>4875631
>Write-in...

"You really don't seem to like Manaka. That seems to be an opinion shared among a lot of those she summons. What's she done to you lot to make you that way?"

Get her bothered enough to explain, keep her talking. Can we concept the house real fast too?
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>>4875631
>(CONCEPT HER)
What would this do to Gray?
If it were just her I'd try to use one to turn her into Alter, but I don't want to mess with Gray by accident.
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>>4875631
>Call a truce for ten minutes and ask to talk things over with your allies, you will give her anwswer after this
>Wait for Eightfold Blessing to activate
>Concept Eightfold Blessing with Heaven
>Use this time to warn your allies about current power of Rhongo and your intention to save Gray and make sure Manaka doesn`t get that Spear
>After all above it done politely tell her the answer is "No" and just go all out on them with focus on capturing Rhongo alive
No Odin here, sadly.
Lets make sure nobody dies at least before going all out.
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>>4875631
Alright, fine. I accept this condition." I want to see what manaka has to say.
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>>4875631
>"You must be thirsty, can I offer you a drink? You are technically a guest under my... roof."
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>>4875631
>>4875645
+1
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>>4875631
>"You must be thirsty, can I offer you a drink? You are technically a guest under my... roof."
>Ask Artoria for the Horn of Brân Galed, fill it with the best wine and toss it to her.
>Stall for Time. Try to strike up a conversation with her. Ask her about the health of her host, about Manaka, the Servant her host had, anything else you can think of.
>Tell her you are concerned about some of the terms of the geas. Have her go through them again. Pretend to negotiate.
>Use the pauses in the conversation to prepare to spring an ambush on her. Use Tamamophone to say that as soon as 8-fold Blessing is ready, those who can bind the goddess should be ready to do so, Medusa and Betty should use their eyes n her, and Mordred and Artoria should rush forward and slip the Ring of Dispel on her. It's the only way to save Gray.
>If she refuses to negotiate, tell her you need time to think and talk with your allies. Use the time to do the above.
>Do not give her a warning. Her Instincts aren't the greatest, and it will all go more smoothly if she's surprised. Spring the ambush as soon as Eightfold Blessing is ready to activate.
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>>4875631
Switch >>4875661 to >>4875665
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What would drink from Nero's sippy cup do to her?

Would it free her of Manaka's influence, or would it free Gray of them both?
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>>4875678
Probably nothing? Nero's cup cleanses sin from those who fell to evil in their life. It does not apply here.
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>>4875678
Manaka is controling her by her magic. Spear itself is not evil, it is just autistic robot and Gray is a good person.
Unless sippy cup can kill Manaka`s magic you are better off using Rule Breaker or Truth. And I am not sure former is true.
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>>4875680
ehh Gray definitely fell to evil in life as it is right now, even if not in the way you'd usually imagine under this phrase

>this cup instead 'saves' whoever drinks from it. Absolving them of sin and purifying their body of any evils that cling to them.
I'd say Manaka classifies as clingy evil alright
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>>4875685
Yeah, but she's not Altered. It's not Manaka who's clinging on her, it's Rhongo. And Rhongo is not evil. Just an autistic spear who is currently forced to serve evil.
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>>4875683
>>4875686

Pity. If she accepted the drink that would purge her willingly that would bypass (or make use of) her instinct.
I'm not sure stabbing with rule breaker would be viable unless we managed to turn Jack first...
And ten second handshake... is it a trap option or not...?
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>>4875696
literal red text, anon
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>>4875696
Rule Breaker is not an option, we sent Medea away and EMIYA is not fast enough to do it. We need to slip her the Ring of Dispel, it does the same thing as Rule Breaker does.
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>>4875665
Honestly, I think you are overestimating how autistic and irritated Spear is.
And you should either concept with Heaven or prepare to use Kur in case things go wrong. Both at the same time is even better.
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>>4875631
>>4875645
Support.
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>>4875709
What do you mean I'm overestimating it? The Spear was happy to drone about the terms, I don't see why she'd refuse to keep speaking. But even if she does, plan B is still to ask for time to think and talk to our allies, same as your plan.

I'm pretty sure concepting Heaven would kill us right now. Time would have done so many times over if its nature didn't allow us to loop and experience endless pain. We're not strong enough to do concepts as vast as Heaven yet. And Kur is not an option either. It needs time to prepare, an absurd amount of mana, and drags everything around down into the newly created underworld. Let's not do that in haste.
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>>4875714
To put it simply. Spear is a tool without any meaningful human experience. It may have basic seethe protocol because Manaka but it also draws from same existence that is Artoria and Gray. Trying to bullshit her like this would have worked if we were dealing with specific kind of mentally unstable and easily swayed being. For all the seethe she is still work focused at heart. So, you might just tip her and her Instinct off by doing all that extra shit with her acting like this.
>I'm pretty sure concepting Heaven would kill us right now.
Eightfold Blessing is super broken NP, it can allow even bigger bullshit and has good connection to this concept. We are not doing impossible here.
>And Kur is not an option either. It needs time to prepare, an absurd amount of mana, and drags everything around down into the newly created underworld. Let's not do that in haste.
You ask Eresh to prepare Kur in case things go horrible wrong and nothing else helped. With Tamamo`s NP Eresh can just summon it right away.
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>Paladin Beaky

Is he just Nightmare now? Pretty rad
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>>4875631
Calling in 10
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>>4875726
Shinji has always been cordial and tried to do diplomacy, there's nothing in this that should tip her or Manaka off. I believe it'll work. And if she refuses to talk, well, we go with your option and ask for time to think. Nothing changes even if I'm wrong.

We are not doing the impossible? You want to concept Heaven. Why do you think that would be so much easier than Time? Time would have killed us many times over, Heaven needs to kill us even once. And Eightfold Blessing giving infinite mana won't help. We got enough mana to do Time too. The problem was our circuits. They can't handle output like that, and nothing changed in that regard. Heaven WILL kill us.

Even if Kur works, and I am not at all convinced it will, it turns everything around to a crater and drags it down to the Underworld. Are you SURE you want to do that right now with no preparation and no planning?
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>>4875631
>>4875645
Heavenchads ww@
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>>4875734
Tamamo`s NP works a bit different with mana. We already pretty much infinite in terms of energy and Eightfold just removes cost of usage of skills due to nature of it. With 4 tails Tamamo it will be cakewalk.
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>>4875740
Concepting is not a skill, Tiamat. It's something unique to truthman. It does not work the same way. Eightfold cannot possibly remove the cost. This will kill us, I'm sure of it.
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>>4875733
>Call a truce for ten minutes and ask to talk things over with your allies, you will give her anwswer after this
>Wait for Eightfold Blessing to activate
>Concept Eightfold Blessing with Heaven
>Use this time to warn your allies about current power of Rhongo and your intention to save Gray and make sure Manaka doesn`t get that Spear
>After all above it done politely tell her the answer is "No" and just go all out on them with focus on capturing Rhongo alive

This wins.
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>>4875733
Full Tally

>>4875631

"You really don't seem to like Manaka. That seems to be an opinion shared among a lot of those she summons. What's she done to you lot to make you that way?"
>>4875640

Alright, fine. I accept this condition." I want to see what manaka has to say.
>>4875650

>Autism + Concepting Heaven
>>4875645
>>4875664
>>4875713
>>4875739

>More comprehensive Autism, no Heaven
>>4875665
>>4875672
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>>4875733
As Bob Thurman once famously said at the 1962 Spring Fling dance in Panama Wisconsin. Be the change that you want to see in the world. Thanks you all and thanks for the fish! Goodnight Albuquerque!
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>>4875744
It is though, it's under the Magecraft category in his character sheet. I just dont think it has a rank, but p sure it's an easy EX

also hagfriends whomstve of you are rolling for Maou this weekend?
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>>4875757
I spent it all on poo blanco for just one copy of hotwheels. Not even a single assclap
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>>4875759
>tfw I got reverse Paradox'd
>go for Morgan
>end up with Achilles

Shinji stole my roll
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>>4875757
There is absolutely no way this works. Going meta for a moment, if it sets concept costs to zero, we can just concept everything vast that we wanted to do later on right now. Give Betty Gravity, give Abby Space, give Monica Electromagnetism as soon as she gets back, stuff like that. Our team becomes reality warpers in an instant, and Manaka just loses. There is no way WhatIs will allow things to end so anticlimactically.

But the vote is done. Heaven passed. We'll see if it works or not soon enough.
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>>4875757
I got the statue thing, and it turned into a chubby girl with messy hair and glasses. So an absolute win in my book.
Is she a meatpuppet too? I kinda like her.
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>>4875768
Smelly neet

She can actually contribute to society if we pick her up and shove her in Makiri Industries gamedev sector i suppose. Osakabehime too
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>>4875772
I rolled her too!
So I got two neets in two 10 rolls. That can't be a good sign.
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>>4875764
Technically, your roll was stolen by Mordred.
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>>4875772
I don't even think she's born right now
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>>4875764
Ironic
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>>4875768
skipchad

Play CCC
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>>4875795
I know she's Karna's master, even without playing C.C.C. I'll play it after exams.
What I wanna know is if this is a Waver/Zhuge Liang or Rin/Ishtar situation. The wiki is unclear. I doubt the real Ganesha was a fat neet that knew about SSR value.
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>>4875802
ganesha is a fat neet and who 100% backseating
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>>4875802
I'd wait for the Extra Remake that's coming out this year, the Extra games aren't fun to play, the story is good tho imo
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>>4875780
Girls are cutest when they're almost retarded, therefore I forgive Mo-san for jacking my summon
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>>4875812
Yeah, I remember threads on /v/ said the same. I'll wait.
>>4875807
That's nice. Maybe we can summon her and the other neet later.
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>>4875824
Divine spirits typically can't be summoned
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>>4875826
Oh no! Rules and conditions in a Grail War! How will we ever manage?!
I'm sure we'll pull something out our ass.
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>>4875829
Why not just find her post war in a timeskip when she's a living human so Karna can call her fat some more?
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>>4875831
Eh, I like giving power ups as much as everyone else, and if Ganesha is alright with it I guess we can wait until she's alive and do it then.
Speaking of, anyone wanna summon Zhuge and Sima Yi to boost Waver and Reinnes? They also backseat 100%.
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>>4875842
Neh, I’d rather not make any more gestalt characters than we have to deal it as is. It’s difficult enough with the Rins already, and we have to deal with several others already
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"My answer... My answer..." You look at Rhongomyniad in her piercing blue eyes as you deliberate on giving her an answer for as long as you possibly can, and it's clear that she's not exactly the patient sort of woman, judging on how she's glaring at you and waiting for your response... or you're just completely misreading her based on those piercing cold eyes of hers. There's no warmth in them, only a calm calculating intellect... The divinity inside the spear of course doesn't truly understand the emotions of a human, and if it were left to its own devices, it may never be able to either. Of course, it does have something of an advantage over the Rhongomyniad that you're familiar with though. The original Goddess was formed as a result of being the being in command of the soulless body of Arturia, and therefore had no basis to determine emotions with. This version of Rhongomyniad might just have a chance based on the fact that Gray is still somewhere within her.

"Your answer is...?" Rhongomyniad asks, no, demands of you. Clearly, the powerful goddess, despite not having spent more than maybe a few hours in her current form, is quite prideful. She really doesn't enjoy having you stall for time like this. Well too bad! You're still playing bitch emissary to Manaka, so that means...!

"Can I call for a truce? Only for ten minutes or so, I want to talk things over with my allies, this is a big decision after all, and I want to make sure I make the right choice before I do anything." You ask Rhongomyniad with a charming smile on your face, and you're met with a steely look of annoyance from the woman, as if she really doesn't like what she's hearing, but has no choice but to accept. You narrowly avoid calling her autistic, but you feel like that wouldn't help matters much.

"Very well, a truce for ten minutes is... agreeable." She really really doesn't sound happy about having to agree, and you give hey a happy boyish smile as you turn around and walk directly towards your allies, who have now mostly gathered together in order to better defend themselves should an attack begin again. You just leave Rhongomyniad standing there, awkwardly standing on the other side of the room like the kid at school who has no friends.

As you walk back to your allies, you touch the sticker on the back of your hand. 'Tamamo, is it nearly ready?' You keep your communication brief, not wanting to distract the woman for long.

'Mikon! Yes, only a minute and then we'll be ready!' You smile as you finish walking back to the rest of your allies.

'Excellent.' You're looking forward to this, and a plan has already started to formulate in your mind.
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"OK, everyone, can somebody make a barrier around us that prevents her from listening in?" You gesture towards the woman standing a fair distance away with her arms crossed. She actually looks kind of lonely, actually. You kind of feel bad for her. Medea Lily suddenly nods before she says a few words containing ancient power.

"We should be able to talk freely now." The girl happily smiles, glad to have been of help while her older self is still busy. You hope that things are going alright over there...

"Thank you, Medea." You quickly thank her before you turn to the rest of your gathered allies. "OK everyone, the plan her is to capture Rhongomyniad the moment that I give the signal. We need to save Gray and keep Manaka from getting her hands on the full power of that damn spear. The signal will be when I refuse her offer, and in that moment I want those who feel themselves capable of attacking a true Goddess to strike, though remember, non-lethal. We need to capture Gray, I won't stand for her death, understand?" You tell your allies firmly, and are met with murmurs of agreement from the majority. "Good. Then... Tamamo? Is it ready now?"

"Right! The Bounded Field is ready to be deployed, though I'll need to activate my Noble Phantasm in order to properly finalize it, and... it might be seen as an act of aggression..." Tamamo is wary of the goddess waiting patiently for you to come to your decision, and you shake your head.

"No, it's perfect, activate your Noble Phantasm immediately, I have an idea." You can't help but smile, this is the perfect plan! By using the property of the Eightfold Blessings of Amaterasu that sets the cost of magecraft to zero, then you'll be able to apply whatever concept that you like to it! It's the perfect plan!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8CN2_XcnG0

"As you say, husband!" The mirror around the fox woman starts to rapidly move around her, and she begins to speak "God who resides in Izumo." a circle of Ofuda charms circle her, expanding outwards. "Let this freely become the proof of purification." The circle spins faster as it gets further from her, and the woman suddenly launches the mirror into the air. "Become the sacred treasure, Mirror of Uka." Glowing Torii appear surrounding her now, and the mirror begins to glow with power as it floats above it all. "Eightfold Blessings of Amaterasu on the Weight Stone under the Sunlit Watery Heaven!" As the Noble Phantasm floats above everything, you can feel the bounded field she had been working on rapidly start to form, but... your plan only just starts here.

You jump upwards to face the mirror, and stare at the glowing artifact for a few seconds before you reach out to touch it, floating in place for a few moments as you grab the mirror out of the air and take it back down to the floor with you. The countdown begins.
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"H-husband? What are you doing with my mirror?!" Tamamo sounds worried, and Rhongomyniad has clearly realized that something has happened, the woman is clearly about to act, but... It's too late! You'll apply the concept of Heaven to this mirror using it's own power to reduce the cost of doing so to nothing! Yes!

You begin to infuse the mirror with a concept, but the moment you do, a huge crack appears on the surface of the mirror, before...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovQC32AKAnU

The mirror shatters into thousands of pieces in your hands, the once mighty regalia of a goddess disappearing into motes of energy as it fades from existence, it seems that even for the Noble Phantasm with the authority to build nations, the same fate awaited it for trying to comprehend the power of Truth in order to reduce the cost to zero that awaited ELIXIR for attempting to comprehend your Reality Marble.

The Eightfold Blessings of Amaterasu have been shattered.

[Status Updated!]

"Husband! What... What did you do?!" Tamamo sounds really quite furious at the fact that you just broke her mirror, but... that fury is nothing compared to the danger walking towards you right now. Rhongomyniad is clearly well aware that whatever you just tried to do was simply to break off the truce that she had agreed with you.

"Indeed, what did you do? Because it seems to me you were looking to use your allies' abilities in order to give you an advantage in stabbing me in the back. Is this how you deal with those who you offer a truce? You..." Rhongomyniad looks visibly disgusted by your plan, and you begin to get worried now, she's not going to hold back now, you can already tell.

>Try to talk your way out of this one.
>Screw it, attack with everything, you'll capture her one way or another.
>Accept Manaka's offer, it's the only way you'll be able to resolve this without casualties!
>Apologize to Rhongomyniad for the deception, lie about the purpose about what you just did.
>Write-in...
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The booze proposal would've had a far higher chance of actually working, by the way.
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>>4875885
rusechads I kneel
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>>4875885
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>>4875877
>Screw it, attack with everything, you'll capture her one way or another.
Talking wont work anymore it seems.
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>>4875877
>Screw it, attack with everything, you'll capture her one way or another.
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>>4875899
Yes we did. The Mirror Broke. The Mirror was her Noble Phantasm. She doesn't have one anymore.
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>>4875900
Oh my. That can't be good.
I mean, I think its hilarious that we deleted it by accident, but that's seriously bad.
I guess now we have to give her an op concept to compensate.
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>>4875877
Accept Manaka's offer, it's the only way you'll be able to resolve this without casualties
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>>4875903
Yes, it was bad. We fucked up real bad, and we made Fox Wife upset. We can't give her a Concept anytime soon either, the moment we touch her core Amaterasu yanks us in the past for a chat, and that's a chat we're not easily walking out of.
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>>4875900
We need to make her a new one.
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>>4875909
Yeah, but now we kinda have to have that chat soon or she'll be crippled.
We gotta start making preparations for it now.
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>>4875903
Concepting Tammers is a one way ticket to Amaterasu Londo, and I'm pretty sure she'll be wondering how we fucked with her bidness across worldlines and the Throne

Big F for our homies doing Tamamo route Hakunons
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This is kinda where you should see autism isn't always the best
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Wait did you guys just break guest rights in front of a goddess? Are you fuckers retarded?
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>>4875927
Multiple goddesses, actually.
An emperor/empress
More than a few kings...
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>>4875934
Oh my God, the one time I take a break from following this quest and you stupid motherfuckers pick the most objectively horrible decision Jesus fucking Christ.
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>>4875938
>>4875934
Same.
Fucking kill me, thats what i get from leaving my house.
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Also, can shirou craft another mirror?
Fucking idiots, holy shit.
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how many minutes have passed from the 10 that the spear gave us?
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>>4875953
Like, 2.
>>4875947
Is a mirror a sword?

Calling in 25.
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Who even had the idea of the mirror shit anyway?
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>>4875956
If it worked, it would've summoned Amaterasu to you.
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>>4875954
Redman can cast shield, it just takes more mana, i wonder if we can very fast have tamamo give info of the mirror and have shirou or redman craft another just to cast the np.
And a mirror can be used as a sword.
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>>4875956
One of the name fags. Let this be a lesson learned
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>>4875957
thats somehow even worse
Who the fuck though that this was a good idea
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Let me explain to you retards what diplomacy means, when someone offers a ceasefire and you take that opportunity to try to attack them as you seemingly accept it, you’ve essentially destroyed any future attempts at diplomacy as no one is gonna fucking believe you anymore when you attempt non violent approaches, your name and honor are dirt, you stabbed someone in the back as they agreed to a truce. EVEN WORSE, you did it to a literal God, do you have any idea how big of a deal guest rights are for Gods? Do you have any idea how spiteful they get when a mortal tries to trick them? EVEN WORSE THAN THAT, you did it in front of Gods and Kings who very much care about this sorta thing. JFC you guys are retarded
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>>4875959
You're asking if Shirou can project an EX-rank Anti-World Noble Phantasm Divine Construct that isn't a sword that belongs to a chief god of a pantheon.
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So, killing ourselves wont bring us back before the concept shit, i suppose.
Sigh, can mordred rewind time of the mirror so it gets unbroken or she still dont know how?
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>>4875877
>Yell "Bind her!". Those who can do it will know what to do. Gil, Enkidu and Alcides can bind a goddess, Sakura can stop her magic and Manaka's teleportation. Check to make sure
>Tell Betty and Medusa to use their Eyes on her at full strength.
>Tell Morgan to give Erosion to Mordred so she can stab the bound, weakened Rhongomyniad

We need her bound and weakened, and that's everyone who can do it. Erosion can split the souls of Rhongo and Gray. There is no other way.
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>>4875969
I'm sure if we kiss her she can do anything
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>>4875967
Yes, anything is worth asking at this point.
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>>4875969
It's over illyafren. We fucked up, mirror broke, we're moving on. We'll have to make it up to fox wife some other way. Dojo only reverses one vote, time travel can't change your own past.
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>>4875976
Impregnation always helps
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>>4875972
would that even work
>>4875971
I was writing some bullshit to try to get us out of this mess by half lying to her that the mirror thing has nothing to do with the truce and it isnt anything to hurt her.
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>>4875978
There is absolutely nothing we can say to her that will make this better. She's not a room temperature iq retard. We're moving to combat, the only question is how.
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>>4875976
I dont mean time travel, i mean rewinding the time of one specific thing.
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Maybe, it's like our second greatest weapon apart from concepts. It wouldn't hurt.
>>4875978
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>>4875978
We'll just say we had a Susanoo moment in the apology. It's completely in character, go look at what he did to her.

Also, she forgave him when he gave her a new toy. It'll be fine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susanoo-no-Mikoto

>Susanoo, announcing that he had won the trial as he had produced deities of the required gender,[a] thus signifying the purity of his intentions, "raged with victory" and proceeded to wreak havoc by destroying his sister's rice fields, defecating in her palace and flaying the 'heavenly piebald horse' (天斑駒, ame-no-fuchikoma), which he then hurled at Amaterasu's loom, killing one of her weaving maidens.[20][21][22]

She forgave him after he killed Orochi and gave her the sword.
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>>4875982
Mordred doesn't have the time stone.

>>4875984
At least we didn't shit on the floor of her palace. We have some way to go.
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Yeah, we fucked up. Talking is absolutely fucking over. She wont believe anything we say.
For what its worth, I'm sorry. I guess picking the lengthy namefag vote doesn't always end up well.
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>>4875985
POOO POO PEEE PEEE SISSY CHEATED ME
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>>4875986
Told ya so
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>>4875986
There were two lengthy namefag options anon. WhatIs confirmed the other would have worked better.
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>>4875877
>>4875971

This bound Orochi and was overkill even then. Erosion should leave Gray's unconscious body and the spear at her side.

Also, Nobu should be ready with her musket barrage to dab on any jakku that show up, seeing as jack is a living ball of mysetry.
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>>4875984

>Apologize to Rhongomyniad for the deception, ""lie"" about the purpose about what you just did.
>"nothing that i wanted to do involved hurting you or anything to do with the truce, i was mostly just having some safety nets about a possible backstab from your master, its just that my fox's mirror here breaks too easily."
>"Anyway, can you wait the rest of the 10 minutes? I need to try to fix this now and finish my talks with my allies."
Would this work? I was thinking to follow up this with what sakurafag voted for or maybe not.
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>>4875993
Rhon is autistic and now mad, she ain't listening now.

Should have wined and dined her :DDDDDDD
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>>4875993
Illyafren, she just caught us lying and breaking truce. What makes you think she'll listen to anything we have to say without immediately blasting?
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>>4875986
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>>4875995
>>4875994
What rank is our charisma?
Maybe have nero say it, lol.
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>>4876000
Well, I guess unsealing Beloved of Alaya and brainwashing everyone in a ten mile radius would be one way to talk things out.
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>>4876000
Charisma vs CS kneel
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>>4876002
based?

She's right there too.
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>>4876003
Unironically what if we kneel or bow or something and apologize
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>>4876010
I was thinking about that.
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>>4876010
to rhon? that's cringe

She'd never accept such a coward as a wielder.

We have to dom her now.
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>>4876010
Fully prostate ourselves and bang our head on the floor
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>>4875877
Supporting >>4875971
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>>4875877
>>4875971
+1

Fuck this shit.
JESUS, TAKE THE WHEEL
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>>4876011
>>4876012
>>4876013
Idk I think if we speak check it and say we had to go for it since we have other people to think about and protect and its solely our fault for the deception
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>>4876017
so we gamble on dice when we have a binding combo that dabbed on orochi forma de arceuid vore twentyfive-percento?
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>>4876019
I think the other anon want for rhongo to not be angry at us.
We can sweet talk her later.
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>>4876019
Yes
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>>4875971
+1.
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>>4875877
>>4875971
Support.
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We may need to say sorry for our allies for the bad plan and be very fucking sorry to tamamo.
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>>4876034
Honestly, after today's fuckups they'd be right to question our leadership. Investigating Morrigan's spooky house with no plan and no back up, now this, we have become an overconfident fool. And just saying sorry won't fix this.
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>>4876034
Just shit on the floor and go and find something big to kill, she'll understand.

Anyway, somebody tally.
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>>4876042

>>4875877

>Screw it, attack with everything, you'll capture her one way or another.
>>4875891
>>4875893

Accept Manaka's offer, it's the only way you'll be able to resolve this without casualties
>>4875908

>Yell "Bind her!". Those who can do it will know what to do. Gil, Enkidu and Alcides can bind a goddess, Sakura can stop her magic and Manaka's teleportation. Check to make sure
>Tell Betty and Medusa to use their Eyes on her at full strength.
>Tell Morgan to give Erosion to Mordred so she can stab the bound, weakened Rhongomyniad
>>4875971
>>4875992
>>4876014
>>4876015
>>4876026
>>4876029
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>>4876042
We can give her the crowns we collect from killing Beast 666
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>"in my defense, i didnt expect it to explode."
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I mean, in our defense they did attack us first before Rhongo talked truce.
If she'd knocked on the door we probably would have said yes.
I mean I get that the kings here likely won't care about that, but we could have died before it even got to the truce part, what with Monica shooting shit, Jack, Jets and the Rhongo Nuke.
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>>4876053
Yeah, we can say this to her later if she gets salty about "muh broke truce"
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>>4876053
Yeah its a good excuse
>You broke into my house and endangered my loved ones, there was no chance of a truce here
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"Bind her! Now!" You shout to your allies as the Goddess Rhongomyniad slowly walks towards you, and nearly immediately as those words leave your mouth, dozens of portals appear surrounding the goddess, of which the golden binding chains blasts of Enkidu fire her, forcing Rhongomyniad to leap backwards to avoid being caught in the binding chains, Alcides and Enkidu are also both prepared for their binding attacks as well, but Rhongomyniad doesn't seem all that bothered.

"So you would break a truce you offered yourself, and then instead of explaining yourself, you would attempt to bind me?!" Rhongomyniad sounds furious now, and... you can't really blame her. You really messed up here. Badly. chains

"Betty! Medusa! Both of you use your eyes on her at their maximum strength! We can still capture her!" The Goddess Rhongomyniad looks visibly angry as you suggest such a thing, but you don't care, and seconds later, the Goddess is both having the crushing pressure of Medusa's eyes bearing down on her as well as the literal crushing pressure of the gravity well being summoned on her location. She's clearly struggling, if only a tiny bit, but this time, there's no way that she'll be able to escape the binding chains as they grasp her.

"You truly believe yourself to be capable of capturing me?! Know your place, you treacherous wretch!" Rhongomyniad suddenly begins to glow with a terrible light, that forces you to look away from her lest your eyes burn out from the intensity, and... horrifyingly, it seems that was her plan, as both Betty and Medusa can't subject themselves to the pain of looking upon the brightly shining woman. "I should just kill you all, but... she still wishes you alive." The Goddess' voice emanates from the shining light, and a single chain shoots towards her once again.

Unfortunately, Rhongomyniad is far too skillful for such an attempt to bind her to actually work, and a heavy claymore cuts the chain in twain before it can even touch her. In shock, you see that there are now dozens of helmeted knights standing in between you and Rhongomyniad, and in the exact moment that the goddess creates dozens of knights on the level of the average Servant out of her divine energy to match you, the legion of Jacks outside begin their charge. Rhongomyniad seems content to hide behind her legion of soldiers and assassins.
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>>4876234
>You really messed up here. Badly. chains
>chains
>>>>>>>>chains

>You really messed up here. Badly.
>You really messed up here. Badly.
>You really messed up here. Badly.
>You really messed up here. Badly.
>You really messed up here. Badly.
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"This... This shall be the fate of all those who would break a truce. I had trusted you to be honest with me, and yet you lied upon the very first opportunity... after seeing how that girl spoke of you... I had such hope. Such hope that you would be the one to lead the world through the many crisis to come, but... I see only a coward and a backstabber, willing to break his word in seconds." Rhongomyniad is really really pissed now. The attempt to bind her failed, and now she's being protected by an entire army of Assassins as well as dozens of Servant level Enforcement Knights. "But..." Rhongomyniad suddenly turns to face the charging horde of Jacks, before a wall of holy light appears just in front of them before they can reach the ruins of the house, presumably incinerating themselves on the wall accidentally.

"What- What are you doing?! They were your allies!" You shout at the Goddess, who shakes her head at you in irritation.

"They were expendable copies of the original, hardly worth worrying about. I've decided that we'll turn this into something of a... test. Yes. If you can kill all one hundred of the Enforcement Knights I've summoned all by yourself, then I'll consider a ceasefire." The Goddess has a dangerous look in her eyes. "I want to see your power, and she too desires such a thing."

"But... What about Manaka? Aren't you going against her wishes?!" You ask the goddess, confused by this sudden change of tactics on her part. What on Earth could she be playing at? A duel between you and a hundred Servant level beings? How does she think that's fair? You suppose with your current reinforcements, it might be possible...

"Quite the contrary, I suggested this to her, but she accepted it. Now, will you choose to repent for your crime and fight with honor? Or will we do battle with each other? I doubt there would be all too many survivors if we did fight against each other here..." Rhongomyniad isn't messing around, but the fact that she seems to be considering forgiveness as a potential option if you can impress her is... well, surprising, actually.

>"Fine, I'll fight your horde of faceless mooks."
>"No thanks, I'll just have you captured now. Sakura, please handle this."
>Write-in...
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>>4876235
Thanks for interrupting the update because of a word that got left behind in the edit.
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>>4876241
You're welcome, you passive-aggressive ass, you!
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It seems like qm wants us to negotiate with her, and is punishing all attempts to just fight her.
I don't want to just dance to her tune.
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>>4876236
>"First off, you had Jack The Ripper break into my house and attack my guests, and my kids."
>"Then you have a small army in my garden."
>"I'll admit, I fucked up using a truce to buy time...and breaking the mirror in the process to bring the houses protections back up was completely on accident."
>"But you know what, fine. I'll play your game, I wasn't even paying attention to your demands on behalf of Monika by the way."
>"Fine, I'll fight your horde of faceless mooks."
>"But you aren't going anywhere, Rin, can you dump her in some parallel dimension for a few minuets?"
>>4876241
>>4876243
Kek.
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>>4876246
Attempting to capture her and bind her isn't exactly just fighting her.
Also, attempting to fight her here WILL lead to people dying, and it was only because I was feeling merciful that it didn't. At her full power, she can incinerate the entire surface of the planet.
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>>4876253
The power scaling of our group is ridiculous that its underwhelming.
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>>4876258
Yeah, a lot of your group CAN survive something like that, but most can't.
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>>4876253
Oh come on we have all the broken and op shit and in the end it ammounts to fucking nothing.
I refuse to believe a weaker Rhongo can deal with all the broken members we have with us.
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>>4876253
Nah.
>>4876236
>>4876247
+1, maybe remove the rin part, not sure if it would work.

Also Rhongo is being a very big hypocrite right now.
>muh truce and honor
>attacks a party and almost kill children
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>>4876265
Why do you think she's weaker? Because of a single line in her character sheet?
Also, it's nothing to do with that.
It's more to do with the fact that most of the people you know can't survive the devastation that being close to such a fight would bring.
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>>4876236
>>"Fine, I'll fight your horde of faceless mooks."
>>Write-in...
Ask Rhongobongo if she'll give us a moment to prepare. Then we see if we can figure out where Amethyst is and grab every goddamn buff we can. We have rune magic, we should rune up our shoes, our pants, our jacket.

Well, might as well get this shit over with. Good work guys.
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>>4876236
Support this without the rin part as well >>4876247
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>>4876236
>>4876247
+1
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>>4876236
>>4876247
+1 Without Rin.

I really doubt it would be that easy.
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>>4876236
>>4876247
+1. Without Rin part too.
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>>4876271
My vote is without rin also.
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>>4876331
>>4876355
>>4876358
>>4876361
>>4876271
Then what the hell are we using if not Rin? I don't want to stress out Sakura any more than she already is.
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>>4876389
Well stow that heart attack, and get to planning.
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>>4876371
I mean, why try to capture her again? She said we can talk if we defeat the mobs.
And i do want to throw it to her face how retarded coming guns blazing was from her part.
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you dumbfucks really tried to use a noble fantasm to facilitate our Truth powers like that ELIXER?

Did the fact that it got DESTROYED not fucking clue you idiot in that it'll be ruined from trying that? Or did you think because we were trying to bust it up anyways meant that this would just go off without a hitch?

How many of you migrated from that Banished quest after we kept getting screwed by the Void bullshit? You're just repeating your own mistakes if you did come from that.
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>>4876399
I'm going to be in this thread 24/7 to try to stop bullshit like this.
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>>4876395
Because she is talking to Manaka. Right now, and she is the one that approved, can't be confirmed or denied by the way, to fight her goons. It literally doesn't matter if she says she won't do anything, she's still a attack dog, and needs a leash.
>>4876399
Well maybe if someone was around to remember before that vote, might have been relevant. It's too late.
>>4876401
Great. While your here, how about a plan to fix or at the bare minimum replace the Fox Wifes mirror.
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>>4876406
We should Truth concept a custom made mirror with the concept of "Tamamo" or "Amaterasu"
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>>4876406
>Great. While your here, how about a plan to fix or at the bare minimum replace the Fox Wifes mirror.
None at the moment, replacing a noble phantasm like that is, difficult, its not even a sword for shirou to make another, we may need to ask tamamo if she has some ideas later.
If the pieces still exist we may be able to repair it? but i'm not sure.
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>>4876421
Its typical that the human printing press we know can't do mirrors.
>>4876423
>>4876420
Mending Perhaps? Like the D&D spell?
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>>4876432
Its literally just a spell that lets you fix shit. Its what it says on the tin.
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To apply a concept to Fox Wife, we need to chat with Amaterasu.
If we could somehow bring Tamamo with us and get them to talk and agree on a concept together, maybe try to make them accept each other, it could work nicely.
Or it could get us all killed.
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I like how her honor is subjective. She sends assassin's into a house with n.on-combatants. possesses a body that isn't hers and works for someone attempting to end the world. Which part of this is honorable?

Plus who is she to judge? Shinji is no knight and he isn't under her countries laws. She isn't his god so she can't dictate what the code of conduct is.

Also goddamn it I should have paid attention to the thread more. That was a stupid move. Apply concept to NP when we haven't done that before and gambling on the outcome.
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>agree
>with angry sun
>a very angry sun
We gonna die.
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>>4876507
woman moment

Should've just given her the booze and the ring.

ENTER, ENFORCERCHADS
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>>4876253
You’re right. It’s not just fighting her. It’s attempting to keep her and her host alive and free them from the one who actually enslaved her, after they made an attempt to mass murder everyone including children.

>>4876236
Support >>4876247
also without the Rin part. Accepting the terms after giving her a piece of mind.
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>>4876236
I'll edit this>>4876247
by taking the Rin part off I guess.
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Keep in mind fucknuggets that we do still NEED to lock that bitch down because she's still Manaka's attack dog. And we need to do SOMETHING with her, and all you fucks don't want Rin to dump her ass in a Pokemon Bin.
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>>4876558
It''s not that we don't want to, its that it wouldn't work. She'd see it coming, and then run or attack.
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>>4876564
Fine. But we need someone with at least something pointed at her ready to lock her up tighter than Tamamo's ass is right now.
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>>4876558
>>4876564
She dodged the chains and shit, she probably will react if rin tries to teleport her.
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Just checking who doesn't know how to access all the statsheets?

I feel we had a few newer anons join recently.

https://pastebin.com/h152hbhV is the main pastebin which contains all the stuff, if you're after ideas consider looking through the stat sheets and wiki if you want to try and find evidence to support making a plan work.

This link is in the OP as the Status Menu btw in case you need to find it again.

Good to see a bunch of discussion during what is normally dead hours though.

I hope we see Agravain. The most based and redpilled kotr
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>>4876569
Eh, OP essentially fiat’d that Rhongo is off limits for now. We have to pay penance for trying to trick her by showing off for her mistress. She is blasting her own backup right now to show how superior she is so it’s unlikely she’d break her word instead.

Unless of course our little tantrum will make her think “fuck it” though I don’t think it should.
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>>4876572
Then. Think. Of. Something. Else. Because the Bitch can't walk free.
>>4876578
Manaka is batshit and tried to slit our kids throats with her groupies, Rhongo is her pet until pulled from her control.
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sorry drunk typing ideas right nwo but can't we just truth some kinda cloth or something with the conceetp of improsionement?
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>>4876482
If we try to apply a concept to Tamamo, Amaterasu will nab us, it's basically confirmed, so we should probably tell everyone (Sakura) not to freak out and start shit
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>conceptual autism crippled Tamamo
Omedetou, namefag-kun!
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>>4876701
I've got a bad feeling when anons chose to use another high-level concept like heaven.
It's pretty funny to see it backfires horribly. Props to Whatis.
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>>4876686
>>4876701
Can`t be spirited away by Ammy to Takamagahara now after doing another Susanoo moment. Banished from Heaven. We just didn`t have to kill her horse and maid. Now can freely concept Tamamo.
And it is proper prerequrment to get control over land of the dead as Susanoo. All the more legitimacy to New Kur.
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>>4876707
I miss Tiger dojo.
When was the last time anons got dead end?
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>>4876712
Wouldn't be surprised if they did now
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>>4876423
>Mirror broke when applying concept
>Apply concept to fix it
Brilliant
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I reckon the problem with concepting an NP is they're already a concept in a way. They're a crystallisation of their myth. Have we concepted an NP before this? Also, have we ever fucked up in picking the conceptual core?

This same thing might have happened if we picked wrong inside the core.
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So concepting an NP was a bust, but would the same thing happen if Eightfold was just used as a statstick while Shinji concepted Shirou or something?

Suzuka with Trichilio should stay far away in case of uh oh blain bwoken moments
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>>4876712
God, I can't even remember. It's been way too long.
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>>4876742
Probably would have been just fine. WhatIs confirmed the drink would have worked, but that bridge is burned now. Rhon is piss
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>>4876743
No, wait. I did remember. It was in the Shapeless Isle, when people decided we should enter the spooky forest without magic. We saw Sakura get eaten before we died too. Fuck.
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>>4876746
Vorechad ending.
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This is some funny stuff.
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So what's the point of insulting Rhongomyniad?
It seems petty and stupid and childish.
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>>4876799
She's offering us a lifeline here.
It's pretty obvious that she's on our side.
Or rather the side of humanity.
Why are we trying to spit in her face because Manaka is trying to control her?
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>>4876804
I don't want to reply to them.
I'm worried their retardation is contagious and I'm not inoculated .
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>>4876798
>>4876799
Just duel her knights using Truth armor and weapons and Ath nGabla. Gift Spear to Tamamo afterwards to emulate the legend of Susanoo making it up to Amaterasu.
With so many bonuses stack in our favour mook knights are nothing.
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>>4876798
well we started off insulting her right when we first met her >>4874399

this write in does not really have insults in it aside from "I wasn't listening to you anyway" one, rather it's an indignant tirade with acceding to her terms.
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>>4876236

But if people want an alternative polite and repenant autism instead, there:

switching from >>4876517
to this:

>"Very well, Rhongomyniad. My intentions notwithstanding, I admit my deception was a transgression towards you, and in recognition of that I accept your terms without reservation. Bring forth your warriors!"
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>>4876815
The fact that Rhongo didn't lose her temper at being insulted is already a miracle. That's what leads me to believe she's actually on our side.
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>>4876236
>>4876823
Support this.

Why have the usual write-in autists abandoned us in our time of need?
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>>4876810
The basedman has entered the thread
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>>4876823
>>4876236
+1
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA SAVE ME NIGGERMAN.
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>>4876831
Enough with the write in autism holy fuck, it's not fucking helping, an essay long vote isn't automatically good
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>>4876856
I was going to but then

>>4876858
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>>4876859
Devilish.
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>>4876831
Sorry anon, tourist season is picking up and my time is getting more and more limited.
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>>4876858
Well neither is the currently winning vote.
I hope Rhongo just kills us for our autism if that wins.
I don't want to live in a world where we survive saying it.
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>>4876868
Based
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>>4876868
From meta-narrative perspective the only thing missing there is jojo reference.
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>>4876871
We are saving that one for the moment we are confronted by our "moralfag" friends about doing something that resulted in deaths of thousands as we create our perfect world.
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>>4876873
>"How many grains of rice have you eaten this morning, Shirou?"[Pride]
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>>4876873
>"I am cringe given form."
And Gil just pulls out Ea.
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>>4876879
Gil could lend Nero the Golden Fiddle of Babylon.
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What's the current vote count looking like?
We need more switches.
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>>4876823
+1
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If I could be a nigger for a day
I could live my life the free and easy way
I'd take from Uncle Sam and let the white man pay
If I could be a nigger for a day
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>>4876920
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based thread shillers
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What's the meme vote this time?
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Please please tell me that the retarded vote isn't winning.
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Ten minutes till call.
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>>4877032

>>4876247
>>4876271
>>4876331
>>4876355
>>4876358
>>4876361


>>4876823
>>4876827
>>4876831
>>4876854
>>4876896


>"First off, you had Jack The Ripper break into my house and attack my guests, and my kids."
>"Then you have a small army in my garden."
>"I'll admit, I fucked up using a truce to buy time...and breaking the mirror in the process to bring the houses protections back up was completely on accident."
>"But you know what, fine. I'll play your game, I wasn't even paying attention to your demands on behalf of Monika by the way."
>"Fine, I'll fight your horde of faceless mooks."

This wins.
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>>4877032
Tally ho!

>>4876236
>"First off, you had Jack The Ripper break into my house and attack my guests, and my kids."
>"Then you have a small army in my garden."
>"I'll admit, I fucked up using a truce to buy time...and breaking the mirror in the process to bring the houses protections back up was completely on accident."
>"But you know what, fine. I'll play your game, I wasn't even paying attention to your demands on behalf of Monika by the way."
>"Fine, I'll fight your horde of faceless mooks."
>>4876247
>>4876271
>>4876331
>>4876355
>>4876358
>>4876361

>>"Fine, I'll fight your horde of faceless mooks."
>>Write-in...
Ask Rhongobongo if she'll give us a moment to prepare. Then we see if we can figure out where Amethyst is and grab every goddamn buff we can. We have rune magic, we should rune up our shoes, our pants, our jacket.
>>4876328

>>Write-in...
>Snap your own neck
>>4876368

>>"Fine, I'll fight your horde of faceless mooks."
>"can I have my allies teleported somewhere safe? I need space if you want to see my TRUE power."
>>4876385

>"Very well, Rhongomyniad. My intentions notwithstanding, I admit my deception was a transgression towards you, and in recognition of that I accept your terms without reservation. Bring forth your warriors!"
>>4876823
>>4876827
>>4876831
>>4876854
>>4876896

Suicide by Rhongobongo wins..

Holy fuck, why did you people ever expect this to work? This is LITERALLY adding insult to injury. She's been nothing but honorable, polite and respectful so far, and we've been nothing but a useless, lying, backstabbing cunt. She was already pissed, she'll be furious!
At least no one supported that COMPLETELY retarded Rin part. Rhongomyniad can dimension hop! She'd just be back in a second to kill us all. I mean, we're still going to die, but at least it'll be because we pissed her off, not because we had a stroke and forgot what she can do.
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>>4877021
At least it will be more in character for the True Shinji
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>>4877044
Honourable? Dude she opened with a drill blast.
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>>4877053
>He thinks drills aren't honorable.
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>>4877044
>She's been nothing but honorable.
She opened by nuking us. Only after that failed did she try to negotiate.
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>>4877054
Also you didn’t even vote, Batman.
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This is going to be quite the update.
Big expectations for Dojo.
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>>4877055
Let me remind you then what has happened today.
>Day of relaxation begins. Everything's fine, no one is after us.
>We decide to poke Morrigan's spookyhouse for no reason. Instead of retreating after Satsuki's Reality Marble gets scuffed, we choose to escalate for no reason, waste two command seals, almost get people killed, and ruin Morrigan's lovesuite.
>Tesla starts hunting us.
>Skip
>We rescue Cain from Manaka's army.
>Manaka's army attacks us.
>Stuff happens.
>Sakura pulls up a barrier.
>Rhongo, who is Manaka's Servant, breaks it down. Drill does its job.
>She offers to negotiate instead of immediately blasting the people in the room.
>We ask for a truce. She accepts.
>We immediately lie, break it, and fail at capturing her.
>Instead of nuking the room, she offers a way out with no casualties.
>We spit in her face, insult her, and even deliberately say the name of her boss wrong.
How are any of the things in this sequence anything but our own damn fault? How is she not honorable for participating in a battle that we started? I hope Taiga doesn't hold back in telling Shinji how completely retarded he's become.
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>>4877078
>I hope Taiga doesn't hold back in telling Shinji how completely retarded he's become.
Just pretend to be possessed by Susanoo and Erlang Shen and it will be fine.
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>>4877078
I think you are confused in who the aggressor is here. I’ll give you a hint: it’s not the one standing in ruins of his house.

But I guess it’s fine if someone tries to murder you and your family if they offer you a deal to do it again without backup after their first attempt fails.
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>>4877097
>Poke a bear
>The bear mauls you
>OH NO. THE BEAR WAS THE AGGRESSOR.
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>>4877103
>save a child and their guardian from a bear
>yeah you totally deserve to have your family murdered
Are you actually Russian by any chance?
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>>4877113
>You sit with your family
>You poke a bear
>And you lower your defenses right after
>Your family is now in danger
>This is the bear's fault
>Not yours
>I dindu
Literal room temperature iq take.
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>>4877113
Well, Makiri-Matou bloodline started in Russia and after all the changes Sakura went she is pretty much has that slavic blood too.
So
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hovy3YnaJTc
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>>4877118
It is in fact the bears fault for attacking and corrupting everyone she can get her paws on. You’re still not doing your case any favor. But whatever. Again you didn’t even vote so it’s not like you’ve got a stake in this.
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>>4877140
Yeah, well if anything that’s just extra in character justification to never admit to having done anything wrong ever.
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You look at the Enforcer Knights summoned by the Goddess, and then you look at the Goddess herself, who is still frowning, and you scowl. "First off, you had Jack the Ripper break into my house and attack my guests, and my kids!" You accuse the woman, ignoring the wall of holy energy that she put in place to keep Jack from entering the ruins of your home. "Then you have a small army in my garden." You reiterate that you're being attacked by Manaka's forces, for some reason.

"Both of those things are partially true, so I shall partially take fault. I will admit that this method of attack wasn't what I would have preferred, but that girl insisted after you interfered with her plans, and I had no choice but to follow her orders. She was originally willing to leave you to your revelry." Rhongomyniad's voice has a dangerous edge, as if she's not willing to take any more of your insulting means of speaking with her anymore. But you don't care.

"I'll admit, I fucked up using a truce to buy time." Rhongomyniad's eyes narrow, and you can feel killing aura radiating off of her, she... really didn't like you saying that, but... well, you're not finished talking yet. "...and breaking the mirror in the process to bring the house's protections back up was completely on accident." You... you have no idea why you're telling her that you accidentally broke the mirror you were trying to use to put the house's protections up again, but it looks like that manages to make her even angrier.

"You..." Rhongomyniad goes to say something, but you cut her off.

"But you know what? Fine. I'll play your game, I wasn't even paying attention to your demands on behalf of Monika, by the way." Wait... Monika? You meant to say Manaka! Damn it! Looks like your nerves are really getting to you. "So fine, I'll fight your horde of faceless mooks." You say with a shit-eating grin, and Rhongomyniad says nothing. She just stares at you, her eyes wide with a mixture of shock and loathing. The Enforcer Knights surrounding her don't appear to be about to attack, and the woman remains quiet.

"I really was wrong about you. I was hoping that together, we would have been able to work against that girl. But now... Now I see that it's hopeless. What a shame." Rhongomyniad shakes her head sadly, refusing to look at you and turning her back to you, just as she does, the Enforcer Knights all disappear as well. "There's no choice but to do what I must in other ways. Humanity shall be doomed if I don't take action by myself."

"Uh.... Aren't you going to attack? We doing this test or not?" You ask the Goddess as she walks away, before she stops about a meter away from the glowing barrier of holy energy.
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"No." Those words are the prelude to an earth shattering explosion of energy, as the entire room explodes underneath you with a terrifying amount of holy light, easily on the level of a nuclear strike. You can see a great deal of your allies instantly disappear in the purging explosion of light, and even you, with your ability to absorb Holy Energy into your own magical energy, are rapidly overloaded and torn apart by your own magic circuits going haywire, before you too are incinerated into naught but dust.

Dead End
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>>4877118
The bear isn't trying to end the world and become a multiversal bear god

what even is this comparison
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I like how we spend all this time getting all this op stuff and then QM decides to kill us in one shot without a chance to defend ourselves.
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>>4873552
Mr. Lion and Master of Chaldea John Smith are both gucci btw
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"That... was... Well that sure was something, Shinji-kun!" Taiga has a frown on her face as she watches you enter the dojo, and you can only scratch your head awkwardly as both Taiga and Illya looks at you with disappointed expressions.

"Yeah, talk about grabbing a death sentence from the jaws of a pardon." Illya looks at you like you're an idiot, but worst of all is...

"Hahahahahahahah! You absolute idiot! What the hell were you expecting was going to happen?! You had a goddess that you knew was already pissed off with you, and you kept poking her with a stick! Couldn't you tell that she was secretly trying to drop hints that she was opposed to the dumb bitch under the temple? God, I'm embarrassed to share a face with you, bodysnatcher!" The original Shinji can barely contain his laughter as he uses a wall to support himself.

"The words of the transfer student are... harsh, but... he's not wrong, either. Rhongomyniad is somebody who values honor quite a lot, and the fact that you offered a truce before breaking it not a few minutes after has really lowered her opinion of you a great deal. She was willing to take your insults beforehand, but... there's a limit, understand, Shinji-kun?" Taiga starts to actually explain where you went wrong. "You shouldn't be so harsh on Rhon-chan for this, she's really trying her best here. She doesn't want to be involved in any of this, after all. Because Rhon-chan is a divinity that loves humanity at her core, being forced to work for somebody working towards the obliteration of all humans is something that she can't abide."

"Then, what are you saying that I should apologize to her for breaking my truce?" You question the Dojo Instructor, who suddenly bops you on the head three times in the exact same instant with a kendo sword, her style was incredible, but... it's not what you should be focusing on right now.

"No! Rhon-chan would never accept a verbal apology after what you did. So long as you can put up a good fight against her hundred knights, she'll be satisfied! She was never expecting you to be able to beat all of them, after all. But a display of heroism and competence should be enough for her to forgive you."

"Well, Rhongomyniad might forgive you, but good luck getting Tamamo to do the same after you broke her mirror, Shinji!" Illya sticks her tongue out at you, and you frown at her taking things so lightly. Damn it! It was an accident, alright?

"Yeah, good luck with all the women bodysnatcher, you're really going to need it." The other Shinji can still barely supress his laughter, and Taiga takes an authorative tone.

"That's enough, Student #2!" Your doppelganger cowers away from Taiga, before she looks at you with a smile. "Now then, Shinji. Here's your Tiger Stamp! Remember! I'm counting on you!" She smiles at you, before her face turns serious, and her voice seems to layer upon itself billions of times. "We all are.."
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>"Fine, I'll fight your horde of faceless mooks."
>"Do you mind if I come up with a plan first? (Write-in...)
>"No thanks, I'll just have you captured now. Sakura, please handle this."
>Write-in...
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>>4877189
It was either I killed you in one shot by taking you off guard or I didn't and you shielded yourself in time so you could see your group of 50 allies get turned into a group of about 7 or 8, suffer a mindbreak, and get executed by mook knights.
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>>4877207
I know, I know...
Fine, let's play nice for once.

>"Fine, I'll fight your horde of faceless mooks."
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>>4877196
>>"Fine, I'll fight your horde of faceless mooks."
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>>4877196
>Agree politely. Explain that you only wanted to save the girl she's possessing as fast as possible to prevent further damage to her soul and body. This is not an excuse, but an explanation. You will do whatever it takes to save the world, as well as the people you care about. Including putting your life on the line.
>As you are currently unarmed, ask if she will allow you to borrow a weapon from one of your human allies. If she agrees, ask Shirou for Secace, the sword that Lancelot used to drive off the Saxon invaders at Saxon Rock.
>Recite the first two aria lines. With the reduced cost now applied to Truth constructs, project some form of Truth armour. Model it off Karna's Kavacha and Kundala as a thin layer of light if Shinji needs ideas. Project a Sword of Truth if she did not allow you to borrow a sword from Shirou.
>Activate the Ath nGabla rune circle through some of your blood.
>Challenge them all in a series of duels.
>Use runes liberally before and during the fight.
>Use the third and fourth line of your Aria if pinned as it's an auto escape button.
>Final line for a full heal if needed.

Alright, let's do this properly, shall we? We already have Ares's Sash, Gil's Belt, and Medea's Reinforcement, and after the kiss with Sakura, our mana tank is full. We can do this.
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>>4877196
Change >>4877215
to this >>4877222
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>>4877193
Supporting >>4877222 since it includes proper preparations, plays on Rhongo worldview, shows determination with Secase and Ath nGabla and prevents us from being ganged up on by knights.
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>>4877196
I'll see manaka. And apologize for being an idiot
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>>4877196
Changing from >>4877213
To >>4877222
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>>4877170
Why did mentioning the mirror make her angrier? It was admitting the real biggest fuckup we did. I’d it just because of sweets memery?
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>>4877244
Because it's randomly just bringing up something completely irrelevant, and literally telling somebody how you were planning on stabbing them in the back.
Why would she care about the fucking mirror at all? Why did you bring that up?
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>>4877244
Concept Breaker: All Mirrors Must Be Broken.
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>>4877193
And i would say that again, nobody tries to hurt my children without getting told aobut that.
Rhongo has no respect from me, she deserves to be depowered and get slapped in the butt a little.
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>see /a/ thread
>check /qst/
>"man I miss dead ends"
>it actually happened
Holy shit, this is better than the Padoru vote.
Thanks retards, you made my day.
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>>4877251
Fix what? The mirror that got utterly annihilated so not even a speck of dust remains? And did you not see what applying a concept did to it? Even if there was something to apply it to, why would you expect it to work?
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>>4877253
The padoru vote was retarded and leaded us to the "can't work for a day" bullshit.
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>>4877246
Because our honesty compelled us to admit the one mistake we actually made, I guess.

Singling out the mirror as a trigger word just seemed weird.
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>>4877249
She's not trying to hurt your kids, actually.
The drill to pierce Sakura's barrier was explicitly Manaka's order under her belief that you'd block it anyway.
Rhongo actually prevented the attacks from the rest of Manaka's forces, and only acted as she did in the Dead End in order to completely destroy you utterly so Manaka couldn't get her hands on either you or your corpse because you destroyed all of her faith in you.
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>>4877222
Why do we have to fight?
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>>4877251
Mirror is gone, there are no shards. We’re gonna have to make a new one, if we get the chance. Regardless whether the fox will divorce over this or not.
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>>4877263
To make it up to rhon-chan who did literally nothing wrong and let us kindly call her a dumb spear.
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>>4877263
Because the easy way went to the shitter when we (more like you people) decided to lay a trap for and failed miserably instead of just courting her with wine like the nigger said.
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>>4877266
That's stupid. Why not just surrender?
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>>4877272
Hey I voted to see manaka and was the only person to vote that
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>>4877261
I get the feeling you like villains more than you like heroes in Fate. What with giving all these chances to try to keep Rhongo not mad at us so she can join us.
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>>4877261
Hardly changes anything, its still dangerous.
She could just fucking ask and we would probably be "sure, fine." to talking with her.
Dumb manaka and dumb spear.
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>>4877274
Fair enough
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>>4877272
If only there was someone who proposed an alternative plan that included the drinking horn and all the preparation needed for the ambush and NOT breaking a mirror.
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>>4877273
Because honor and testing us.
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>>4877279
Is it to the death?
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>>4877288
Can't change the past anon. WhatIs has confirmed that.
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>>4877196
Calling in 20.
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>>4877258
Padoru vote was based compared to that galactic cringe next day.
Damn, how did you make "Shinji" into a more pathetic, lying and backstabbing bitch than the real Shinji?
Maybe you should apply some concept to yourself to stop fucking up this badly, not that it will help with anons making the decisions.
Good luck with managing the harem you faggots.
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>>4877261
Well if that little tantrum was enough to destroy her faith then she should not have been holding back to begin with. How can anyone ever love humanity like that?
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>>4877288
Canonically we can`t travel to the past in our timeline.
If Mordred had more control over Time she would have been able to just stop it for long enough time and just grab the spear.
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Can't rin steal another mirror from another timeline
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>>4877307
Can’t help phoneposting. But I suppose it is part and parcel for the setting where horrible and arbitrary violence is inflicted on a whim.
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>>4877324
>on a whim
>He has understood nothing
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>>4877316
It does not belong to Rin so Rin can`t get it.
Three options:
1. Steal original Yata no Kagami if it`s still exist here
2. Concept normal mirror with Blessing and let Tamamo Fox`s Wedding it into her new NP
3. Find some poor Tamamo in other timeline and steal her mirror from her
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>>4877329
Yeah, i was thinking of stealing the real one.
We can also try to steal the mirror from the emperor of another timeline to not steal from another fox wife.
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>>4877329
Or concept her and chat with Amaterasu.
There's gotta be a way to talk our way with her somehow.
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>>4877332
Rin requires the original to be able to grab something from a different timeline.

>>4877333
>Eightfold Blessing of Amaterasu
The full name of the mirror we broke. Good luck, anon. You're gonna need it.
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>>4877333
It will help a lot to restore Mirror first before talking with Amaterasu due to mythological approach and legend of Susanoo and Amaterasu. You want her to be as benevolent as possible for the meeting.
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>>4877335
Hey, we can give it back to her if she lets us. Even buff her.
QM wouldn't just kill us without at least trying to set things right.
I think we learned our lesson with pissing off Goddesses. At least I hope we did.
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>>4877328
Words are too difficult for you I see. The case with rhongo has some nuance because her autism would prevent her from understanding why someone would decide to ensure safety of his family and allies with trickery. But the setting is absolutely fiches up with what people do to each other over banal shit, including just words.
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>>4877343
Was that your little speech? Are you upset that it was rightfully called out as completely retarded and grasping at straws to blame anyone else but your own lack of understanding of anything? Is that why you keep resetting your router?
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>>4877349
It wasn’t my speech. It was a tantrum and was correctly delivered as such. My issue is with the words counting for more than actions, where the breach of trust was apparently salvageable but a hissy fit was a dead end even if we were in character antagonistic to rhongo even before we voted on any interaction whatsoever.
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>>4877291
Full tally

>>4877196

>Combat Autism
>>4877222
>>4877227
>>4877229
>>4877232
>>4877241

I'll see manaka. And apologize for being an idiot
>>4877238
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>>4877365
>You wrong someone
>She offers you a chance to make it right
>You throw a hissy fit instead
>This was the final straw
>This is somehow strange
Man, I call myself an autist, but you take the cake, 1-post ID anon.
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>>4877372
For someone who pretends to love humanity this is indeed strange.
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>>4877380
How so?
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>>4877380
I wouldnt call it strange, more autistic than anything.
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>>4877382
Because it is impossible to love humanity without being aware that emotions are what make them work, and not always in their own favour. And Shinji deceived her specifically because he wanted his allies to be safe, and it was formulated specifically to keep both rhongo and her host unharmed as well. Your own plan would deceive her as well anyway.

Anyway I maintain the hissy fit did not warrant a dead end even if it would have strained spears opinion of us. Especially after we called her dumb without input. But QM word is law so that’s that.
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>>4877402
>Anyway I maintain the hissy fit did not warrant a dead end even if it would have strained spears opinion of us. Especially after we called her dumb without input. But QM word is law so that’s that.
I agree. She seems to have extreme anger problems, gets salty very easily, its funny.
Dumb spear, needs a beating.
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>>4877402
Is retardedness an emotion? Because it was not emotion, but retardedness that caused this little hissy fit. Taiga should have made that obvious, but I guess some people are just too thick.

As for "impossible to love humanity", I'd direct you to the wiki to read up on the qualifications for becoming a beast. And while you're there, start reading about things in general. Random things. It's obvious you know nothing about anything.
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>>4877415
Don't we have a cuck jar? Just stick her in that until she stops being autistic.
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>>4877416
Well at least you can relate with the spear I guess. More’s the pity that you chose to not vote against this “retardedness” becoming a willing accomplice in it.
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>>4877426
And why would I want to deprive you of a learning opportunity as great as the Tiger Dojo? It's just a shame you decided to hit "no" on picrel. You could have learned something for once in your life.

>>4877433
I don't think they know who Kiara is or why she's relevant when discussing "love for humanity", mommy Tiamat.
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What the duck I literally fall asleep and the bad option won. I didn't think it had so many votes.
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We're not fixing that mirror so at least that's one girl gone from the harem. The only issue is we gotta try atleast since we confessed to her.

Comfort feels kinda cheap since we've been handing that out like candy.
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>>4877477
We are fixing that shit even if it kills us, we broke it, we fix it.
Or get another.
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>>4877446
Well it did teach me that you are a petty asshole that will deliberately navigate the story to what he is convinced is bad end to punish people with differing opinion even if it means death of characters he purportedly cares for.

Btw I voted for the option that would have worked. Maybe I should have samefagged it.
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>>4877482
>I voted for the option that would have worked
>He keeps defending the option that dead ended us
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>>4876507
>>4877471
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>>4877487
I think he voted for the "get spear boozed up" plan
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>>4877496
Didn't vote for the option just commented on what she was doing. Don't even see what your saying. She has no right to judge. Doesn't mean you say that to someone that can kill you and you have no plan to stop it.
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Goddamn wage slave hrs can't wait until it's the weekend.
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>>4877502
No I was asleep during that. I voted for admitting having done wrong and agreeing to honor duel without calling them faceless mooks.
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So how do you guys think we'll fix the mirror. We don't have item construction or any dirvative of it.
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Don't listen to namefags
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>>4877524
We learn item construction, and then we make her a new one. This is not going to be an easy fix. Not every mistake can be easily fixed.
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>>4877524
Pick any option >>4877329
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>>4877529
From my understanding, concept fuckery pushes our updated servant info to the Origin, therefore there are no longer any Tamamos with Noble Phantasms in multiverse
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>>4877529
I’m guessing we’re gonna be concepting this one eight times over. Or nein as a compensation for trauma. Gonna take some effort to figure what exactly with to make it a matching set.
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>>4877551
We didn't concept the mirror, it broke before we could. We didn't concept Tamamo either, she'll overwrite the throne only if we do. And it doesn't overwrite the whole multiverse, just the branches that we observe. Everything else remains the same as it was.
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>>4877551
It only works in this "tree" of the multiverse, at least thats how it worked for our cute assassin.
I think, QM changed that once or twice.
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>>4877551
We didn`t concepted it. It shattered by our touch as we were beginning to try and do so.
Yata no Kagami represents Ammy`s Authority as chief goddess of Takamagahara as well as Truth and Wisdom in Shinto. It is also important part of her legend and her relationship with her brother. Which also makes up to her by gifting her cool sword after killing Orochi.
We did that Sefar could never have done. It was ELIXIR-like situation.
Also, WhatIs changed it to only timelines that we have observed will have our changes in them.
>>4877553
Probably just apologize and tell her we were planning to gift her some extra cool powers inside her newly created territory and voice all three options as ones you can think of do to make up to her.
New mirror probably will result in better NP since our mystery always superior to everything else.
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And for a mistake this is better than breaking something like Rule Breaker or Excalibur.
Mistake was not crucial, gave us valuable information about concepts and Noble Phantasms interaction and it can be played to our favor by making up to Tamamo and Ammy with new mirror using the same legend that made Tamamo and Ammy much nicer to us in the first place.
Without this mistake Triple Concept plan for Medea, Rule Breaker and her Magic Staff would have been a real disaster.
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>>4877584
That is true, yes. We were planning on concepting Rule Breaker tomorrow, and losing that would have been a real disaster. We'll just have to make it up to Tamamo with a new, fancier mirror.
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>>4877589
If Truth Breaking is a thing now with us trying to concept Noble Phantasms separately it just open for us a rather useful new ability. Just need to go for bad concepts in case of concept actually going through.
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>>4877602
I don't really see us being allowed to touch an enemy Noble Phantasm for 10 seconds unhindered, but sure, we do have that option now.
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>>4877584
The problem was not really with concepting it per se though, was it? It broke because it couldn't handle the Truth.
Would it break even if we were not specifically leaning on its effect? Then again, you can't really conceptually turn off a mirror.
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>>4877607
I mean, we can break anything if we use our power recklessly, I for one am thankful it was with a NP rather than a person.

In hindsight it may seem obvious that working Truth on object that's conceptually meant to reflect it may lead to zero summing but I don't recall people bringing that up as a reason to not do it during the vote, though I could be wrong.
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You guys are genuinely fucking retarded you understand that right?
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>>4877613
Very few people voted in general for that decision.
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>>4877607
We can narrow our guesses to:
1. It broke because it was Noble Phantasm and you have to concept Core of being or else it fails (just like how we searched for core of Mordred for example)
2. It broke because Mirror tried to go ELIXIR with us upon touching us and it shattered it
3. It broke because that Mirror represents as Noble Phantasm and it is legend and how it interacted with nature of our powers
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>>4877617
Eight voters are more than average for a vote that is not left overnight.
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>>4877171
based
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>>4877620
Well the story post is pretty explicit in linking it to ELIXIR collapse >>4875877
>The mirror shatters into thousands of pieces in your hands, the once mighty regalia of a goddess disappearing into motes of energy as it fades from existence, it seems that even for the Noble Phantasm with the authority to build nations, the same fate awaited it for trying to comprehend the power of Truth in order to reduce the cost to zero that awaited ELIXIR for attempting to comprehend your Reality Marble.
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>>4877190
Lionchad will be back. Fairies can't die unless they lose their purpose. Wait and HOPE
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>>4877630
Mashu deserves happiness.
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>>4877629
If we take this as 100% Truth then we have to assume that any power that relies on the same principle of work will get same result.
Which is really huge effect as it might make everything below Outer Gods or YHVH have it`s brain melted by trying to compehend nature of our powers.
For safery measure better to ask Suzuka not to try using Trichiliocosm on us under any circumstances.
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>>4877643
Happiness with her husband
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>>4877196
Support>>4877222
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>>4877648
Yeah, that's what I'm taking for this also. Anything trying to interact with our power after we've begun manifesting it will zero-sum (or achieve chim or whatever), like with Shirou, Para's computer or now, a Mirror, shattered.
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>>4877654
Indeed
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>>4877196
Still I stand by it, fuck the bitch for trying to level our damn house.
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>>4877261
So the controlled Servant of Manaka is still in the right regardless?
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>>4877372
>Bitch drops a glorified tactical nuke on a house with non combatants on the expectation that we could stop it, not knowing for sure
>After having a bunch of assassins break in and almost kill everyone.
Fuck you. The spear is a retard that could not have fucked up her first impression than if she actually succeeded.
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>>4877482
Autist is in his name, and people notice now?
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>>4877196
>>4877222
Support
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>>4877584
Doesn't the Argo count as a Noble Phantasm? Or is it because it was already sentient that the Concept took?
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>>4877613
It's easy to tell in hindsight ann. Don't worry, it could actually be a benefit in the long run, and consequences are important for fuckups. We had a long streak of luckchadding before this and got overconfident.
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>>4877675
I think I am convinced by >>4877629 that it is not about just Noble Phantasms.
But Argo was not only sentient but was also made out of normal ship parts Jason found in docks.
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>>4877662
based NTR ID at it again
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>>4877665
>>4877668
>>4877670

Sneed
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>>4877682
Truth powers are so damn weird, it's not like the Concept was that crazy either.
>>4877686
Vote more brat.
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>>4877584
Ye, basically...

In myth, Ammy and Susanoo got into a fight after they had a contest and Susanoo felt cheated.

Being the god of storms, Susanoo is an impulsive retard (just like Shinji at times).

When Susanoo's tantrum destroyed a bunch of Ammy's stuff, Ammy banished him from Heaven (ironic and perfectly fitting considering the concept buff Shinji just tried to use on the mirror).

To get back into heaven or Takamagahara in nipland, Susanoo slayed the Orochi, and gave his sister the sword, the Kusanagi that he pulled from Orochi's corpse. This gift appeased her and she let him back into Heaven.

Tammy/Ammy are used to their closest relations being impulsive retards and breaking her shit. As long as we make it up to her with an equal or better gift, she might actually love Shinji more due to the strong mythological links between the two.

I suggest giving her Rhon, and making her a suped up version of Summer/Lancer Tamamo. Lancer Tamamo is in canon closer to Ammy anyway, her Divinity is A++, she has Goddess Morph as a skill and she'd more of a sexual predator than normal

Fuck me I'm unable to type in the mornings.

This is Susanoo in myth, fyi:

>Susanoo, announcing that he had won the trial as he had produced deities of the required gender,[a] thus signifying the purity of his intentions, "raged with victory" and proceeded to wreak havoc by destroying his sister's rice fields, defecating in her palace and flaying the 'heavenly piebald horse' (天斑駒, ame-no-fuchikoma), which he then hurled at Amaterasu's loom, killing one of her weaving maidens.[20][21][22]
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>>4877682
It is persuasive, but how can we be sure the next Noble Phantasm won't break either? It'll be a risk, and whose Noble Phantasm do we risk to test it?

>>4877688
>it's not like the Concept was that crazy either
>Heaven
>Not that crazy
anon...
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>>4877688
Seethe and Cope.

Vote is called.
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>>4877689
Or we build her a new better Mirror of Truth? She'll appreciate it more if we actually replace what we broke with something better instead of just giving her an angry autistic spear.

And we can keep the spear for ourselves. We still need a ranged attack.
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>>4877690
>>4877692
I never voted to put Heaven as a Concept, I thought it was just pushing the Sanctuary back up.
>>4877692
>Seethe and Cope
>Passive bitch that wants to scream we were right when not saying anything till after the fact
Dilate.
>>4877694
So making a new Mirror is a option now?
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Well, gigachad option is gifting her three things: new Blessing concept Mirror, cool Cutting concept Sword and shiny Benevolence concept Magatama.
Since is this case she will pass it down to her children as benevolent mother goddess.
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>>4877700
Sounds good.
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>>4877696
Making the new mirror in place of the one we broke is more or less foregone thing, assuming we get the chance.
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>>4877696
>So making a new Mirror is a option now?
Not right now, we don't actually know Truth Item Creation yet. But it's one of the things we're planning to learn post-war, and it's worth doing the best for fox wife, isn't it?

>>4877700
Now this is what proper gift-giving looks like. I approve.
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>>4877694
>And we can keep the spear for ourselves. We still need a ranged attack.
How exactly are we making her accept remaining a Spear with no body?
Or are we still planning on betraying her?
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>>4877703
Well lets hope we aren't killed arbitrarily so we can make it.
>>4877700
Work for later when we kick Manaka's ass for interrupting dinner.
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>>4877709
Do you plan to let her possess Gray forever, anon?
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>>4877696
Your brain is so smooth you think Rhon had any say in levelling our house? You also think Rhon had any say in the assassin swarm that she literally just defended us against with her Wall of Light AFTER Shinji went full retard towards her twice.

Rhon has no control over Jack, and it outright stated by QM to have been Manaka's orders to drop the gigadrill lance as Manaka knew we'd tank it, which was an order she can't refuse.

Rhon is a dindu, Shinji was a retard and so are you. Take meds.
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>>4877710
Smooth brain for trying to lock Rhon down while you slide around on your skidmarks? Typical nigger, you dindu nothin either, but after the fact you love to act like you knew better.
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>>4877714
So you double posted because?
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>>4877718
He does that, shits up the thread if he makes a mistake
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>>4877712
Again, what exactly are you planning? Obviously I'd rather not have to deal with her shit, but she can nuke us in seconds.
So our only options are betraying her, or convincing her to give Gray back.
What can we give her so she'll accept that?
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>>4877721
Noted. Its I guess my smooth brain couldn't comprehend the attack dog on our front lawn is a Dindu Nuthin, he lives up to his name. I'll give him that.
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>>4877726
Probably whatever demands Manaka was having her ramble off while we zoned out setting up a plan with everyone. You know what, fuck it, we are feeding the mouthy Spear to Illya.
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>>4877726
My current plan is what is being implemented. I have no concrete plan past that, because we don't know what's going to happen and it's idiotic to plan without having all the facts. All I know right now is that it's unacceptable to let her keep possessing Gray, so we'll be left with an extra shiny spear at some point.
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>>4877733
So I hear Illya needs some god cores for desert.
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So, we need one mundane mirror, sword and magatama and some solid magical energy source to make it work.
Mirror mostly described as representation of Truth, Wisdom and Purity.
Sword is Valor, Courage or Cutting.
And Magatama is almost always represents Benevolence.
Tamamo`s skill
>Fox's Wedding: A+++
>A modified version of the Item Construction skill, by calling upon her nature as a goddess, Caster can bless items with all sorts of different effects. Though only on the condition that she is given a gift in return.
Have no actual limit since Tamamo told it herself and tied to her view of gift and as >>4877689 told it was the key gift to her and was part of Three Sacred Treasures.
Tamamo`s main issue with Ammy stems from being disappointed with each other so to make them less at odds and more in tune without constant mutual desire to murder.
This will make concepting Tamamo almost cakewalk as Ammy will outright sims for something this big.
And we get three cool equally valuable Mystic Codes from Tamamo for it too.
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>>4877714
Well it's the very fact that Rhongomyniad is at the end of the day under control of Manaka why there were plans to capture her in the first place. There was a time where we tried to talk down a Servant who really didn't want to hit us before and ended up in a rape dungeon for it, even if it (after a dead end) eventually worked out alright for us.
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>>4877728
>"You shouldn't be so harsh on Rhon-chan for this, she's really trying her best here. She doesn't want to be involved in any of this, after all. Because Rhon-chan is a divinity that loves humanity at her core, being forced to work for somebody working towards the obliteration of all humans is something that she can't abide."
Smooth brain AND a speedreader.
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>>4877726
Our current plan is to trust in spear's integrity and prove our mettle to her, as per >>4877193
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>>4877745
I read it and I could not fucking care, she is an enemy combatant possessing our babysitter, and until she is out of that control I will treat them accordingly, no other person before her had her firepower. So she will be treated as such. Get bent mister I gloat about ya'll being retards after the fact, and said nothing about it till after the vote is called. You petulant fucking homo.
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>>4877726
Her having Instinct makes this hard, but her Instinct only triggers in combat. Morgan might be able to reseal her into a new Add-like construct, or, if she got a chance, separate the two with Erosion.

Also, even if Rhon can detect something, she might have let it pass as she doesn't want to be Manaka's slave and forced against mankind, something she loves. So, if Shinji didn't already piss her off, this would have been an option.

Ilya hug is really tempting but way too risky, because Rhon senses the danger and might kill Ilya. Also, Rhon's mana reserves are insane, she might even overload Ilya's capacity and kill her which is worse than a dead end.

>>4877747
As NTR Anon says, trust in Dojo, trust in Taiga!Alaya, make plans when we have more information. Right now the only path forwad is to prove Shinji's resolve in combat and then see what options open up after that.
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>>4877738
Well, having her make the gift we plan to give her to replace the mirror that we broke is... odd. But the concepts sound good, and we can make the items ourselves.
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>>4877752
>tfw no qt Gray babysitter

Holy fuck saiyanigger you are a genuine monkebrain.
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>>4877752
Actually Monica is the babysitter and she's not right here.

Although I wouldn't be too surprised if that fight was already over and our allies sent there were busy being Blacked by APEX Alter.
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>>4877752
Well if you don't fucking care about what happens in the quest, about the hints that Taiga gives in the hint corner, WHY ARE YOU EVEN HERE? Go cry in the corner. Your autistic screeching got us killed, your plan for Rin was as retarded as I said, and you STILL have not learned anything. I mean babysitter? What? You think that Gray is Monica? How the fuck can you be so wrong all the time, saiyanman?
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Out of curiosity, QM said that if we had given Divinity to Saber Alter, Rhongomyniad would have shown up, and it would have been a dead end.
How so? If we told her about Orochi and Manaka she probably would have helped, if this one is any guess.
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>>4877756
Just invade LB2, feed Surtr and Skadoo to Ilya and Sitonai and gift Tamamo:

>Laevatein: Sword Like a Sun that Becomes a Calamity

Sword of the sun, heaps of sychertism/conceptual links and mythos to female Sun deities like Tamamo.. I think she'd really like it desu. It also mirrors the sword gift Susanoo gave her.

>>4877762
I hope not, we sent an overkill team and jobbing was supposed to be toggled off for Arc and others as per word of QM.
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>>4877756
Gift back part is just nature of her skill functionality.
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>>4877771
I still think she'll appreciate the new mirror and >>4877738 more. I mean. What will she even do with Surtr's world-ending sword?
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>>4877760
We don't know if Morgan is out there behind them you nigger, unless you see some notes you shouldn't right now.
>>4877762
God damn it my dyslexia, why do we have so many people with names so similar? She still possessed by Morgan Le Fey right?
>>4877769
And your bitching instead of saying something at the time means go fuck yourself with a cactus. You just saying the Rin plan was retarded and not explain means jack shit you autistic faggot, hell I changed that write in before the vote is called and you still harp like it means a damn thing you worthless mongaloid.
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>>4877770
It would've been a different Rhongomyniad, one born of the evils of the Holy Grail.
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>>4877774
Regifting is a little bit cringe. Luckily we have the greatest artist in the world, Umu and her EX Item Con + IP memes to make something instead.

>>4877777
Put it on the mantle like she did with Kusanagi until she gave it to her son when she sent him down to earth to rule over Japan? She just likes collecting shiny powerful things. It's where Daiji/Vitchi's treasuring collector autism comes from I'd imagine, being another aspect of Ammy's personality.
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>>4877780
Yeah, I figured it would have been a diferent one.
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>>4877779
Morgan? Our spymaster who is in the room with us as an ally?

Morgan, the servant of Mordred, who is a Caster?

Whomst are you speaking of...?

The stat sheet is here if you ever get confused, anon.

https://pastebin.com/h152hbhV
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>>4877779
That's Morrigan, the split personality banshee possessing Bazett.

Morgan le fey is Mordred's mom and Servant, she's with us.
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>>4877779
>Morgan Le Fey
What the actual fuck are you on about, saiyanigger? Who is Morgan possessing? What are you smoking? How the FUCK can you still not know anything?

>just saying the Rin plan was retarded and not explain
>not explain
Read, retard, read! I know your eyes glaze over from too many words and your tiny brain has trouble understanding them, but read!

>>4877044
>At least no one supported that COMPLETELY retarded Rin part. Rhongomyniad can dimension hop! She'd just be back in a second to kill us all. I mean, we're still going to die, but at least it'll be because we pissed her off, not because we had a stroke and forgot what she can do.

>>4877782
No, we're making the gift ourselves. It cheapens it if we have someone else make it for us. And you want to give her a deliberately useless gift that she won't do anything with, like her retarded brother did? We are better than that, niggerman.
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>>4877779
Er, Morgan is somewhat responsible for turning Grey into a Seibahface, but she never actually possessed her. Wheres that coming from
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>>4877793
Making Tamamo Nero's wife!
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I wanted Lancer Alter, and now we have the vanilla one, making her redundant.
Sad.
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>>4877789
The Morrigan you fucking nigger, you know who I'm fucking talking about.
>>4877790
Thank you.
>>4877793
>Read, retard, read! I know your eyes glaze over from too many words and your tiny brain has trouble understanding them, but read!
SPEAK SPEAK SPEAK YOU TRIPLE NAMFAG QUEER, DON'T WAIT TILL SOMETHING GOES WRONG YOU GLOATING SACK OF SUBHUMAN FILTH!
>At least no one supported that COMPLETELY retarded Rin part. Rhongomyniad can dimension hop! She'd just be back in a second to kill us all. I mean, we're still going to die, but at least it'll be because we pissed her off, not because we had a stroke and forgot what she can do.
WOOPITY FUCKING DO, YOU DID IT AFTER THE VOTE, YOU FEEL PROUD WAITING?!
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>>4877771
Cain is with us, if we do him a solid he can tell us the coords for the Garden. Chat up the angel guards (we're cool, YHVH is a homie) and see if we can bargain for a sword. No need for lostbelt timey wimey bullshit
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>>4877807
A fellow Edenchad. I'm glad someone is reiterating my autism from a few threads back. Based and Blessed.

Uriel, YHWH said its my turn on the flaming sword. Also put Orobura on the Tree for kino myth re-enactment.
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>>4877801
Rhongobongo is so fucking boring. We have so many insanely powerful allies at our disposal but no, MUH FABRICS ANHOR GODDESS is here to fuck our shit up. Retarded DBZ powerscaling, fuck Gods
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>>4877807
If the mirror meme worked we could have cheated Cain back into Heaven lmao. We'll try again when the time is right.
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>>4877812
How dare you insinuate our lovely snek daughter would be tempting people with knowledge of evil
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Just add my vote to whatever is winning. I don't want to read all these posts lol
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>>4877816
The vote is already called.
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>>4877804
And what would it have changed if I had spoken up before the vote? Other people did. You ignored them. You ignore anything that disagrees with your very, very limited understanding of everything. I have argued against you in the past, beginning with your coomer dreams of a giant 30-person orgy, saiyanigger, and you ignored everything! Why would I try to convince you? I mean, you even got the name of the final boss wrong! It's Monica, not Manaka! And no one noticed! So far, in the span of just a couple votes you have confused:
Monica for Manaka
Monica for Gray
Morgan for Morrigan
And that's just a tiny, tiny bit of your overall ignorance. Not even us getting splattered due to your own belligerent retardedness has dissuaded you. You still think you are right, and everyone else, including WhatIs are wrong! What could I possibly say that would get into your thick skull that YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING! And you should stop pretending that you do, or you will NEVER LEARN ANYTHING.
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Also I'm putting my namefag pants on again for this

Since we seem to be finagling for Rhongobongo in our arsenal, i'll do a lil sketch once we actually get past this segment

However, wrt her design do people just want booba seiba lancer as per usual or an iteration on her base lke Okita, Jannu, etc?
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>>4877807
How would Cain know and how do you think we could get in? Even if he does know, Gabriel is guarding it
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I suppose it would be impossible to concept Rhongo into Alter somehow after we free Gray, since she's a Goddess?
I don't want a repeat of Tamamo's mirror.
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>>4877813
I see you Alcides.

"GODS could be here" he thought, "I've never been in this neighbourhood before. There could be GODS anywhere." The cool wind felt good against his bare chest. "I HATE GODS" he thought. Sweet Dreams are Made of These reverberated his entire club, making it pulsate even as the Divine Babylonian wine circulated through his powerful thick veins and washed away his (merited) fear of deities after dark. "With a club, you can go anywhere you want" he said to himself, out loud.


>>4877815
She's too dumb to trick people, and will also grow up into an alcoholic if we aren't careful.

>>4877821
QM did a Gray mock up of her in her introduction, maybe use that as a base? Also welcome back Drawfren.
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>>4877821
Nice to see you, drawfren!
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>>4877821
Good to see you alive m8
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>>4877819
>And what would it have changed if I had spoken up before the vote?
Actually making a statement other than your all stupid changing peoples minds? Shocking for you I'm sure.
>Other people did.
No one else said anything other than take out the Rin vote. Which I did before going to bed and the vote was called.
>You ignored them.
So its my fault you couldn't be bothered to get off your ass to say anything even after I explictly said, Think of something else? Go fuck yourself.
>You ignore anything that disagrees with your very, very limited understanding of everything.
You have said nothing but gloating the attack Servant is a Dindu nothin after the vote.
>I have argued against you in the past, beginning with your coomer dreams of a giant 30-person orgy, saiyanigger, and you ignored everything!
Your autist name is correct, and still not relevant to the topic at hand you faggot.
>Why would I try to convince you?
Because your a smarmy shitstain that would rather burn the quest down to make some point than be productive.
>I mean, you even got the name of the final boss wrong! It's Monica, not Manaka! And no one noticed! So far, in the span of just a couple votes you have confused:
So my dyslexic typo is everyone's fault too, when you still refused to fucking speak up about anything? Again, fuck yourself with a cactus.
>And that's just a tiny, tiny bit of your overall ignorance.
Then speak the fuck up you worthless tripfag, after the fact makes you worse.
>Not even us getting splattered due to your own belligerent retardedness has dissuaded you.
Not even being told to do something useful can make you focus your autisim.
>You still think you are right, and everyone else, including WhatIs are wrong!
Shockingly, I don't care for Dindu's that are told to attack a party, and I had better things to do than suck up. Weird though huh?
>What could I possibly say that would get into your thick skull that YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING!
All your doing is typing typing and typing, and not saying anything.
> And you should stop pretending that you do, or you will NEVER LEARN ANYTHING.
Its almost like I explicitly said to open up your mouth and make a better plan instead of waiting till the final call to say a damn thing.
>>4877821
Neat.
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>>4877822
Mans probably saw it in his wandering and promptly got shooed away by the holy jannies

>>4877827
>>4877836
I judt dont like namefagging if its not pertinent to the situation but ive been lurking since the thread rolled over to this one

>>4877825
You want to keep her in forma de Gray? I thought you preferred her UUOOOHHH sized
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>>4877846
Based Drawfren
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>>4877823
We could always try concepting her with something like *SPACE* and see if we get Space Booba out of it.
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>>4877846
she's currently stacked lion king mode in quest. Just have people voot on what flavour of rhongray they want maybe? Or honestly, just draw whatever you personally prefer.

>>4877843
Bigger shit on the floor moment than Susanoo himself. Commendable rp skill.

Which tripfag are you talking about btw? WhatIs is the only trip in the thread.
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>>4877850
Time almost dojo'd us, lets not mess with space just yet
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>>4877857
>Bigger shit on the floor moment than Susanoo himself.
Speaking of, with all the Parallels between him and Shinji happened, what about a Carnival Post of the adventures of the Psuedo-Servant Shinji (Susanoo?)
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>>4877843
>No one else said anything other than take out the Rin vote.
>>4876328
Just a random anon who got things right. He didn't go far enough, but HE GOT THINGS RIGHT. And what did you do? You ignored him. He didn't even get a (you)! Stop blaming others, just accept that you are the most retarded poster in this quest. You are worse than batman!

>you worthless tripfag
I am a namefag. WhatIs is a tripfag. LEARN THE DIFFERENCE you worthless waste of cum! You don't even know how the site works!
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>>4877857
Namefag.
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>>4877867
>Just a random anon who got things right. He didn't go far enough, but HE GOT THINGS RIGHT. And what did you do? You ignored him. He didn't even get a (you)! Stop blaming others, just accept that you are the most retarded poster in this quest. You are worse than batman!
Oh wow it's almost like, SPEAKING THE FUCK UP AND POINTING IT OUT INSTEAD OF WAITING TO BITCH WAS A MORE PRODUCTIVE THING TO DO, NO ONE PAYING ATTENTION ISN'T MY FAULT YOU AUTISTIC KEK!
>I am a namefag. WhatIs is a tripfag. LEARN THE DIFFERENCE you worthless waste of cum! You don't even know how the site works!
I DON'T FUCKING CARE YOU PEDANTIC SHITSTAIN! FOCUS FOR FIVE SECONDS!
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>>4877872
Oh yeah, I keep forgetting all caps with cuck turns to kek.
>>4877867
I called you a cuck by the way, not kek.
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People are being autistic but look on the bright side at least we are out of Slice of life hell
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>>4877864
Why not make it happen in quest? If Shinji gets a headmate they can offer a prompt to situations to show their input. Like if someone wrongs Shinji, Susanoo's advice/prompt is to smash and grab everything and smear poo on the walls.

Although some neat Carnival stuff could come of it too. Medusa + Susanoo + Rhon headmates in Carnival, Shinji immune to mental interference but they still have ideas to contribute on how to respond to a situation.

Speaking of headmates, we really should try and get a Parallel Minds set up going when we can so we can actually send multiple mental commands while paying attention to the situations in front of us properly. Get some tutelage from Sion post war.
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>>4877872
>No one said anything different. Everyone agreed with me!
>Here's one anon who didn't agree.
>I DON'T CARE. REEEEEEEE
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>>4877879
You can suck it, Slice of Life is the best.
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>>4877879
Looks like kino's back on the menu boys.
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>>4877862
But anon, Space Booba!

>>4877880
>Like if someone wrongs Shinji, Susanoo's advice/prompt is to smash and grab everything and smear poo on the walls.
That's what we do anyways, though.
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>>4877883
Bitch what part of you need to speak the fuck up and change other peoples minds besides mine is how voting works you braindead child? What, do you think I samefagged to get all those plus 1 votes, wait who am I kidding, your Autist, of course that must be what your thinking, nobody in the thread could ignore your silent and deep ravings on how everyone is retarded, that we didn't try to offer the bitch that almost blew up the house booze. It must be everyone's fault and I must gloat that I was right even when I didn't say anything in the slightest until after the fact, they must bow to me since I was right, even if they didn't see me say anything. Too little too fucking late you autistic faggot.
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>>4877890
They're a very compatible pair. There's been a lot of Susanoo parallels over the course of the story, especially regarding the Orochi saga.

IIRC, if we rolled super high on one of the summons we could have ended up as a Susanoo pseudo during the Orochi events.
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>>4877883
REEEanon's just sayin you shouldve given runeanon a (you) of support for having a non-suicidal plan.

Calm down nibbas youre both very pretty. However, neither of you are Time King Mo-san, Lord of Retcons, so let's just move right along
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>>4877890
>But anon, Space Booba!
Save it for when we find out if Nyarly decides to fuck with us after we deal with Manaka.
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>>4877890
>>4877904
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>>4877905
Hmmm, you make a good point. UNLIKE A CERTAIN AUTISTIC RETARD!
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>>4877908
Calm down anon Sakurautist didn't murder your parents you don't need to sperg out at him with every post.
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>>4877904
>tfw i read this as "save space booba for Nyarly in case he tries to fuck us after dealing with Manaka"

Well anons, would you fugg femAlan?
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>>4877899
Seethe

>>4877903
Perhaps I should have. But it couldn't have won anyway, even with a single (you). I woke up after a long day to see retardedness in the lead, like many, many times in the past. Why even bother fighting? I'm tired of trying to get retards to change their retarded votes.

And Runeanon, accept my late (you) along with my apology for not giving one to you earlier. You were the only one who was on the right track back then.

>>4877908
Cope
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>>4877913
Fuck that petulant shitstain acting like he was right without doing a damn thing about the problem.
>>4877914
No that's gay...we could throw Merlin at it though.
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>>4877914
It's a good thing Qm learned from castlevania because we would have absolutely tried to fuck Nyarly.
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>>4877914
Considering what happened with CHAOS EROTIC OUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH in the last WhatIs quest, very much likely.
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>>4877916
>Perhaps I should have. But it couldn't have won anyway, even with a single (you). I woke up after a long day to see retardedness in the lead, like many, many times in the past. Why even bother fighting? I'm tired of trying to get retards to change their retarded votes.
Because your a lazy faggot that couldn't do a damn thing but blow smoke out your ass and gloat after things go wrong, even when you have plenty of time to do something. Woe is you, poor namefag bitch.
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>>4877921
>>4877922
The hell happened in that other quest you two are talking about anyways?
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>>4877922
I would do it again
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>>4877936
The hell is this?
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>>4877916
Actually you could have voted for my write-in and it would've been a tie. Tiebreaker would have likely swung it over, unless it was Niggerman turning it back to the rant to get the dead end.

But there's no point on dwelling on it anymore.
>>4877920
Give it a rest, Anon. You're not really arguing against Sakura man but against QM fiat at this time, and QM fiat is that trusting Rhongo is a good idea.
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>>4877936
Please no.
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I'm hoping we roll well enough to evolve our fighting style. We need one positive from this clusterfuck.
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>>4877940
>Give it a rest, Anon. You're not really arguing against Sakura man but against QM fiat at this time, and QM fiat is that trusting Rhongo is a good idea.
That is still the dumbest shit I have ever heard. But here we are.
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>>4877944
Given the chance to prove ourselves is the positive after the absolute mess of the last two votes caused.
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>>4877940
>QM fiat
Is that what you think this is all about, anon?
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>>4877948
That's exactly what happened you whiny bitch, everyone knows it, shove it up your ass.
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>>4877945
>>4877951
The duality of man?
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"Very well, Rhongomyniad, I will accept this challenge... I will also explain my actions before this. I had only wished to save the girl you are possessing as fast as I possibly could in order to prevent further damage to her soul and body... I know this isn't an excuse, but it's not meant to be. I will do whatever it takes to save the world, as well as all of the people I care about... and if that includes putting my life on the line, then so be it." You look at the goddess, who... while she's not smiling, and looks far from happy, is no longer frowning at you.

"Then I look forward to seeing your strength, now... a weapon. Will you be fighting without one, or...?" Rhongomyniad seems to have been mollified quite a bit by you accepting her challenge of fighting a hundred men, but... you don't know if you'll be able to manage such a feat. While your equipment has put you on a level superior to them physically, can your endurance really hold out against such a vast quantity of people?

As for a weapon though, you begin to formulate a plan, and remain calm as you respond to Rhongomyniad "I'll have one of my allies lend me a weapon for this, if that's fine with you. While I am capable of forming my own sword, it is... costly, and would not last me through a fight against a hundred men." It's true, the Sword of Truth, while an immensely powerful weapon in its own right, is simply too much of a drain on you. While it would be able to cleave through those knights and their weapons with certainty with just a single swing, you aren't so overconfident in your reserves of magical energy that you'll be able to defeat a small army with it alone. Not unless Rhongomyniad was willing to allow you to stop for every twenty or so men killed and share a deep kiss with Sakura, but you feel like that might be pushing your luck a little, you've clearly worn Rhongomyniad's patience down to a stump already.

"Very well, though I shan't give you the opportunity to speak to them in private once more, call your ally to you." Rhongomyniad isn't going to be fooled by anything like letting you speak to your allies to try to form a plan to deal with her again, but that's fine, you weren't intending to anyway.

"Shirou! Come here for a moment! I need to borrow one of your swords!" You single out the boy in the crowd, who quickly steps up, standing at your side. Though she wasn't requested, Saber also comes with Shirou, leering at the Goddess who stares back at her with those piercing eyes. When Shirou reaches your position, you speak calmly and clearly, allowing Rhongomyniad to hear that you aren't planning anything nefarious.
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"I need you to give me Secace, Shirou. You... should've been given the ability to create it from when I shared my thoughts with you, right?"

"Secace?" Arturia suddenly reaches a hand out and a gray blade trimmed with gold is in her hand. "If you wished for a sword of Britain, then all you had to do was ask me, Shinji." Arturia holds the sword by the blade as she passes it to you, and you grasp it. Warm to the touch with the energy flowing through it. A quick look at the sword tells you all you need to know to know that it's about one of the perfect swords for the job. It's a sword that can only be carried into mortal combat, but... that's not the true purpose of it. It can only be carried into such combat because it is a sword meant to fend off invading armies and nothing else. This weapon provides a great deal of strength and defensive enchantments when it is being used to fight off an army of invaders. If a knight of great enough power and skill were to wield this sword and oppose an army by himself, then they would be able to fend off the entire force, that much is certain.

You experimentally slash the weapon in the air a few times, judging the weight and balance of the blade, getting a handle on the weapon before going into battle with it. "Have you chosen your weapon then?" Rhongomyniad is clearly growing impatient, and you smile.

"That's right, I have, Rhongo." You keep smiling at the goddess. "Thanks for this, Saber, head back with the others for now, OK?" You don't let your smile falter as you look at the two either. Thanks to Saber having given you the blade, it's not ranked down, nor does it require a constant flow of Shirou's magical energy to continue existing. It's the true Secace as was once wielded to defend Britain from invaders. "I'm ready then, bring on your knights." You wait for Saber and Shirou to join the rest of your allies who are tightly grouped together before you give the go ahead, and you're glad that you do, for just as you give the word to begin, a knight charges you, their long broadsword misses you narrowly as you duck just enough to avoid the blow before you retaliate with a counter attack, not with your newly acquired blade, but with your fist. Calling upon the strength granted to you with all of equipment you now possess in addition to Medea's reinforcement, your fist strikes against the armor plate of the knight who attempted to strike you.
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Your fist effortlessly punches through the high quality magical steel worn by the knight, and your fist passes through the heart of the phantom knight, destroying his spiritual core and causing him instant death. A few seconds after you kill him, he disappears into motes of golden light that seem to return to Rhongomyniad. "Huh, guess your knights aren't playing around, huh?" You keep a serene smile on your face as you tap into all of your martial arts knowledge, keeping your distance from the knights and preventing yourself from getting surrounded, you roll out of the way of a crushing hammer that one of the knights swings at you, before getting back to your feet. You can't beat all of these knights without doing something special, so...

"I am Truth given form" You say the first line of your aria, before quickly following it up with another, cleaving the arm off of an Enforcer Knight who gets too close to you as you do before using the opportunity to plunge the blade through the throat of the phantom. "I look upon the falsehood of reality." You recite the second line quickly after the first, and you notice Rhongomyniad watching you with interest in those usually emotionless piercing eyes.

You dash through a group of the knights, swinging Secace in an arc as you do to slash through multiple knights at once. While your sword skills aren't as good as your unarmed skills or your skill with a spear, you just... prefer the sword as a weapon, it's more... what's the word...? Emblematic? Romantic? It's the image that the majority of humanity would conceive when they think of the weapon of a hero, after all. That's one of the reasons why Saber is the mightiest class, the pinnacle of Heroic Spirits. It's not the power of the weapon, or the skill of the wielder. It's simply the power of narrative. The one who wields the sword is the courageous hero, and seeing as the world is a story...? Well, the answer is clear to you as to just what sort of weapon a hero would wield.

Still, you can't keep evading strikes at the cost of your stamina, so you use the invocation of the first two lines of your aria to form something new... something you've not attempted to form out of Truth before. A thin golden layer of light around all of your body. A suit of perfect armor protecting your entire body with the exception of your head, not wanting to somehow suffocate yourself with your own unbreakable armor. Besides, what sort of a hero wears a helmet in battle anyway? A lame one, that's what.
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Should have asked Gil for Gauntlets. Damn it we trained martial arts use it.
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You take things easy for a moment, allowing the swords, hammers and axes of the Enforcement Knights surrounding you to harmless skitter off the surface of your armor before stabbing each of them in the weak points in their armor you discerned with the Pure Eye of Truth and carving through their bodies. The powerful analytic abilities of the eye extending beyond simply granting you the true names and abilities of items and foes, allowing you to see even the weaknesses in their armor. Your comprehensive abilities are great, but with your current level of knowledge when it comes to battle, you can't instantly evaluate and find the weaknesses in fighting styles just yet.

"Aren't you supposed to be knights? Don't you know that it's not really honorable to gang up on a single person like this? I understand that there's strength in numbers against a superior foe, but..." You dismiss your armor, the energy cost of keeping such a powerful armor around you is just too great to keep active for long. The knights sense the dismissal of your armor as an opportunity to strike, however... you slash the palm of your hand with your sword, before rapidly using the blood on your sword to carve a rune circle around you. "Ath nGabla." You say the name of the rune as it glows a soft red. "From now on, you are all duty-bound to do battle with me in single combat." You reveal the purpose of the rune, and the knights have no choice but to follow the powerful enchantment held within the runes that Touko taught you. Already, you've killed almost a third of the knights, but without challenging them one on one, you never would've had a chance of victory.

"Fine! I, Markus, shall take you on, wielder of Secace! You are unworthy to hold that blade!" One of the knights charges at you, naming himself Markus. Unfortunately, he's still just a mob character with the exact same armor as the rest, so...

You step past his attack effortlessly, scratching a rune onto his armor as you pass him by before kicking his feet out from under him. The rune on his armor activates as you do, incinerating the knight within the plate-mail before he hits the ground.

These duels continue, with you having the upper hand in every single duel, over and over do you swing your sword with lethal accuracy, but by the ninetieth of the Enforcer Knights, your stamina is beginning to flag. You magical energy is running on exhaust fumes, and you've managed to sustain more than a few injuries in the battle, even though your healing factor allows you to rapidly heal the damage, it still saps your energy for every cut and bruise healed.

"What's the matter? Getting tired?!" The ninetieth night yells at you, and you sidestep his attack with disinterest in your eyes.

"What a generic line." You feign a yawn as you bring Secace down on the man, splitting his head in twain and causing him to disappear just like the eighty nine you've already slain.
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Still, with nine left to go, and your reserves almost completely dry, it... might be time to switch things up a little, but how? If only you had some way to recharge your energy...

>Ask Rhongomyniad if you can take a break.
>Just keep fighting, there's only nine left! You might be running on empty, but you can do it!
>Devise a plan to recover your energy. (How?)
>Write-in...
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We have ways to recover or steal energy?
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>>4877979
well we could burn a command spell for this
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Could we incapacitate but not kill the current guy and take a break since the other knights can't fight us until the current one dies.
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>>4877986
Probably worth it if we can recover it eventually
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>>4877971
Keep going
Also don't we have one last line of the aria to learn? Wonder how we'll get it.
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>>4877987
I don't think we'd have enough time like that. It's a gamble if gods upgrades can do that for us.
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>>4877971
>>Devise a plan to recover your energy. (How?)
Burn a command spell


can't think of anything else viable really. Taking a holy blast would be an option but I don't think we have anything of sorts on us. Maybe something kino like thinking of our friends and family might help but probably not.
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>>4877998
Alternatively we could try drinking blood of our fallen enemies but I don't think that would go well with the spirit of this fight. Succumbing would probably be preferable.
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>>4877971
>>4877998
+1.

Don't wanna fail if we're trying to impress Rhongo.
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[this is obviously a joke vote] >challenge the next knight to a battle of wits and dexterity
>shirou will trace ten rubiks cubes and toss them into the rune circle
>first to solve five wins
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We need a refill?

We're surrounded by a wall of Holy Light.

>"But..." Rhongomyniad suddenly turns to face the charging horde of Jacks, before a wall of holy light appears just in front of them before they can reach the ruins of the house, presumably incinerating themselves on the wall accidentally.

Just succ some mana back from the wall using:

>Blessed Circuits: A+
>Thanks to a blessing granted to him by God, Shinji can safely use all of his body's magic circuits, without any fear of overtaxing them, no matter how much magical energy is run through them. He could be called a perfect conduit for magical energy at this point, capable of using his magic circuits to freely direct magic energy from one source to another without any loss. It is possible to even draw large amounts magical energy directly from the earth with this level of control, rapidly restoring magical energy reserves. In addition, any form of attack formed of holy energy will be instantly absorbed and turned to magical energy.
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>>4878012
Huh, yeah. Holy wall will fill us up real quick, it will cost us nothing, AND it will impress Rhongo. I can't think of anything better.
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>>4877967
broke the update with an absolutely brainlet idea

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>>4877971
This>>4877998
We got plenty.
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>>4878017
Actually
>>4877971
Switching to this>>4878012
We can munch on her walls.
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>>4878012
Great idea.

>>4877971
>Run up to Rhongomyniad's Wall of Light and absorb some of its Holy energy into your circuits.
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>>4878012
Dont succ too much though, aren't they keeping the Jacks and oher BLACKED servants out of the combat zone?
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>>4878012
Clever. Let’s do this instead
>>4877971
>>4877998

Switching to >>4878012
balls to the wall plan

Actually make that offhand just in case.
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>>4878024
Maybe just jab it to trigger a blast instead of staying in it I guess. We can still get overwhelmed as per bad end, too.
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Isn't the wall of light holding the Jacks back? Plus this is showing Manaka One of our aces. Is it worth the cost?
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>>4877971
Supporting this >>4878012
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>>4878012
+1 for jumping face first into『T H E W A L L』
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>>4878039
That face is uncanny.
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>>4877971
Calling in 26
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>>4877971
>Use your offhand to touch the wall of Holy Light and extract enough to refill yourself.
>Use further lines of the RM aria as the fight continues where required.

We still have the unbinding and the full heal, but the full heal is very expensive and would cause us to pass out if we were low.

If the light is too strong and deletes Shinji's hand he should still get a refill and we can regenerate it with the aria, worst case.

Rip Markus.
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>>4877971
>>4878047
Support. Rhongo was very interested in the first lines of our aria. She's looking for reasons to back us over Manaka. And we've given her a hell of a show already. Taiga said she didn't expect us to beat everyone, and we pretty much already have.
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Which hand did we have the command spells on again?
It would be kind of lame if we ended up being unable to use them until they regenerate, and it would put hamper on the fallback plan of draining the cs then while yelling "IT'S JUST A FLESH WOUND"
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>>4878059
Should be the sword hand. We cut off the left arm already in the forest to save ourselves from Chiyome's undetectable poison.
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>>4878059
On the sword hand iirc, but good consideration, anon. WhatIs could elaborate

>>4878064
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>>4878067
>WhatIs could elaborate
I could but I don't want to.
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Right hand, if I haven't developed Alzheimer's.
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>>4878078
Speaking of elaboration, there are some people supporting the nigger's post that wasn't actually a plan. How do you want to count them?
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>>4878047
Seconding this part too.
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>>4878078
Alright, sounds like we're cool.

Cheers, OP!
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>>4877971
Just to be annoying and thorough, I'm gonna amend

>>4878047
to include burning a CS for a refill as a final fallback option in a worst case scenario. So..

>Use your offhand to touch the wall of Holy Light and extract enough to refill yourself.
>Use further lines of the RM aria as the fight continues where required.
>Burn a CS for a refill if absolutely required and all else fails.

Losing is for cucks, not the Main Character.
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>>4878080
Probably just count them for whatever ends up poking the wall idk.
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>>4877971
Switch >>4878054 to >>4878086
Sure, why not.
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>>4877971
Switching
>>4878019
to this>>4878086
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>>4878088
Poking the wall + whatever extras are in the final plan?
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>>4878080
For myself, it amounts to this >>4878047

Even though I am a little on edge about expending aria verses, I suppose we did it enough that they aren't secret to Manaka anyway.
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CS isn't a bad idea at all, it's a good fallback. If we can meme free wall juice that would be optimal and cost free, however.

Also it shows Rhon we can eat Holy Energy. We can explain to her why. She'd know of YHWH to an extent. The Grail Quest was a major part of Arthurian myth. Longinus' lance is almost like her sibling in function, and was wielded by Percival and sometimes Galachad in myth. Along with Joseph of Arimathea's shield.
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>>4878104
There is no difference between your posts>>4878097
why?
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>>4878107
typos as usual.
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>>4878102
or this for completion and consensus sake >>4878086
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>>4878108
Fair enough.
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>>4878104
It is, yes. I was just about to vote to support that before you posted about the Wall.
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Somebody Tally?
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>>4878122
Somebody

>>4877971
Keep going
Also don't we have one last line of the aria to learn? Wonder how we'll get it.
>>4877992

>>Devise a plan to recover your energy. (How?)
Burn a command spell
>>4878004

>Run up to Rhongomyniad's Wall of Light and absorb some of its Holy energy into your circuits.
>>4878020

>Use your offhand to touch the wall of Holy Light and extract enough to refill yourself.
>Use further lines of the RM aria as the fight continues where required.
>Burn a CS for a refill if absolutely required and all else fails.
>>4878086
>>4878090
>>4878092
>>4878109
>>4878034
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>>4878125
its finally time for shinji to see how a wall taste like.
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>>4878174
What does Holy taste like anyways? Vanilla Icecream?
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>>4878209
Loli cunny
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>>4878232
Shut up Aldretch, we will be cucking the shit out of you post haste after Manaka is dealt with.
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>>4878237
Khv
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>>4878209
We should ask God.
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>>4878262
.....should...should we lick the Holy Wall?
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>>4878263
Yes. It's the only way to be sure. We need to lick the wall of holy energy.
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>>4878267
Would it melt our tongue at first?
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>>4878268
It's fine, we absorb holy energy and regenerate.
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>>4878271
Gentlemen, we shall go where no mortal has gone before, MOVE TOWARDS THE LIGHT, SO WE CAN VERIFY IT'S FLAVOR!
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>>4878274
I wonder, if we successfully taste the untasteable, will we get Voyager of the Unknown too?
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>>4878290
You know, it wouldn't be the dumbest thing we accomplish by accident. Or even in the dumbest way.
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A way to recharge your energy... You think on things as the next knight begins to approach, you should be able to defeat him, but your energy might give out on you, and at that point, you're basically screwed, so you begin to devise your plan. Your eye is caught by the shining wall of energy that surrounds you on all sides, sealing this area off from the outside world and preventing the rest of Manaka's forces from making their attack against you. You wonder if the Jacks caught outside are still just piling into the barrier and incinerating themselves. You... kind of hope they aren't actually. You've seen enough dead Jacks for a lifetime already, and you don't need to see any more. She... She doesn't deserve this much mistreatment. Even if she is trying to kill you right now, she's not in control of herself. If you can do so, you really hope that you'll be able to free the girl from Manaka's control and make it up to her. Funny, the fact that you're so freely considering the girl who is at least the potential culprit behind the most famous act of serial killing in the history of the planet. You say potential, because it's... messy. While Jack definitely committed murders in the City of London, it's still up in the air as to if those murders were the murders committed by the Jack the Ripper, or if she's just another one of the many impersonators... Though why would she lie? Doesn't make any sense.

Moving on from getting distracted about the origins of Jack the Ripper and the potential true identity of the true culprit behind those murders, you look at the wall again. It's... made of holy energy, and if you're not mistaken, then that means you'll be able to absorb the energy of it in order to restore your reserves to full in barely any time at all! Now... all you need to do is get close to it without anybody noticing...

"Wait!" Rhongomyniad suddenly calls to stop the next knight as they go to face you, and you start to edge towards the wall of holy light very slowly as you keep a close eye on Rhongomyniad as she looks at her knight, she is clearly unimpressed with the performances of her own warriors, though you can't exactly tell how she feels about your own performance, you're panting in exertion right now as you slowly creep towards the wall, Rhongomyniad doesn't seem to have noticed what you're up to as she looks at her knight. "Your comrades... they did poorly against him, did they not? Are you not afraid?" She asks the knight with a cold voice, and the knight kneels as he makes his response.
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"Of course not, my Lord. If it is my duty to meet my end for the second time at the point of Secace, then that shall be my fate." The knight is admirably honorable, and you almost feel bad about having to kill him, but... you get over it. It's just a phantom in a suit of armor, not a true Heroic Spirit, but a spirit given a body formed out of magical energy. Besides, it's not like Rhongomyniad couldn't just resummon them anyway if she felt like it, you're not a fool. You've taken clear notice of the fact that for every one of them that is slain, when their bodies disintegrate back into motes of golden energy, that energy is drawn back into Rhongomyniad's body.

"An admirable view, but... I shan't send you to your death, you last nine knights were the greatest of your brothers, but... even that much shan't allow you much of a chance in a battle against this opponent." Rhongomyniad seems to be distracted with speaking to the knight, and you use this opportunity to sneak ever closer to the wall, she's not realized what you're up to at all, and you keep listening into the conversation as the wall gets closer and closer to you. You can almost touch it now. "Which is why, I shall grant you and your eight brothers a gift in order to have a chance at victory." The knight seems to try to prostrate himself even further to the Goddess as she says that, but you just sigh.

"Really, Rhongo? You're going to offer them gifts in order to help them overcome me? That's hardly fair, is it?" You ask the Goddess, pretending to be more annoyed than you actually are. She's still not realized just what you're up to, or she's just pretending not to notice.

"Of course. I'm happy with your performance so far, but... I feel as if you aren't being challenged as you should be. I wish to see the true extent of your power, of how you'll struggle to overcome even insurmountable foes. Of how you'll defeat those who outnumber you in a desperate situation. Show me your mettle, Makiri!" The Goddess gets almost uncharacteristically excited about the coming battle for a moment before her normal calm returns, and nine orbs of red light appear atop her left palm, before each rapidly shoots into one of the remaining knights. Causing their bodies to... start to swell? They were quite a bit taller than you before already, but... as their bodies swell and they grow larger, you can tell they've grown stronger too. This can only be... Madness Enhancement? She granted them all Madness Enhancement? Damn it! With that, Ath nGabla is worthless! It's an honor-based rune! Against people with Madness Enhancement, they simply won't be capable of abiding by the rules of the magecraft!
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Still, despite the hulking behemoths that are now all encroaching on you, you keep your confident smile. "You want to see how I'd deal with a desperate situation where my foes are insurmountable? Where I can't rely on being able to face all of my battles in a one-on-one? While I'm still low on magical energy from slaying ninety one of your knights already?" You finally reach out your left hand and touch the golden wall of energy. "I guess I'd just do this." You can feel the energy of the immensely powerful holy construct flow through your body, recharging your circuits nearly instantly as vast quantities of power flow into you, and you take your hand off of the wall only after a few seconds of contact with it. Fully charged and with only a few minor first-degree burns, you look at the nine hulking knights as they charge towards you... While you're close to the wall, you can freely make use of the power to recharge yourself, meaning you can basically use your magic however you please... How Rhongomyniad feels about this is... unknowable. She's looking at you with a stunned expression right now. It's a shame that you're limited to the quantity of magical energy that your circuits can handle, even if that is still a tremendously large quantity regardless, it's still nothing compared to what you'd be able to handle if you had a magic core.

"Now! Let's go!" You brandish Secace at the advancing knights, and begin to formulate a battle plan.

>Take the offensive approach, go for their exposed weak points and finish them off when they attack you clumsily as a result of their maddened status.
>Take a defensive approach, you can resummon that armor now that you've got all your magical energy back. Take their blows without flinching and crush them in retaliation.
>Take the magical approach, seeing as you can draw on this wall of light for as much energy as you require, you can use truth for offensive magecraft!
>Take a dexterous approach, use the wall of light to your advantage for more than just regenerating magical energy. Trick the maddened knights into charging into it by dodging their blows!
>Write-in...
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>>4878295
Like if we rank them by most useful autism to least, I think it goes:
>Padoru
>Divine Booze
>Suffocation Box
>Stay in the Jail Cell
>Rhongo Write-ins

What other dumb and autistic shit have we done?
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>>4878311
Making Grey and SHIKI immortal by proxy of killing the absolute shit out of their vampire soul leach.
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>>4878310
Take a dexterous approach, use the wall of light to your advantage for more than just regenerating magical energy. Trick the maddened knights into charging into it by dodging their blows
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>>4878316
You mean Ciel and SHIKI. But yeah, we just like murdered Roa and left him there.
That'd probably go above divine booze and maybe padoru.
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>>4878311
>Padoru
Retarded but based
>Divine Booze
Retarded
>Autoasphixiation
So retarded it was funny
>Jail Cell
Again, impossibly retarded but funny
>Rhongo bongobrain
Almost had potential at the start, went single braincell tier retarded by the end
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>>4878319
That damn archive is so bare bones I thought Ciel was Grey. Was Grey the girl we rescued from that cult then?
>That'd probably go above divine booze and maybe padoru.
We still need to figure out a thing to do with the Devine Concept. Oh, maybe attach it to Fox Wife's new mirror?
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>>4878310
>Take a dexterous approach, use the wall of light to your advantage for more than just regenerating magical energy. Trick the maddened knights into charging into it by dodging their blows!
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>>4878311
Rhongo is aggravating to me because anons were being frustratingly retarded by making MULTIPLE bad choices in quick succession and turned an easy encounter into this
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>Take the magical approach, seeing as you can draw on this wall of light for as much energy as you require, you can use truth for offensive magecraft!

Rather stay close to the wall and I just want to see truth based offensive magecraft. The smart option would be tricking them considering they have mad enhancement.
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>>4878310
>Fuck it, stick our hand back into the wall and start blasting the knights with Truth Beams, take out their legs first.
>>4878335
Everyone keeps fucking bitching it was retarded but only after the fact. Shut the fuck up already.
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>>4878339
Motherfucker, it was the most obvious shit ever NOT to fucking backstab a goddess who offered a truce or antagonize the goddess you literally JUST backstabbed, use your fucking head retard
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>>4878342
You mean the forced ceasefire so she can ramble off her owners demands? Fuck her, and her bullshit honor, especially with what the retard is doing now.
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You know QM, if you're going to write her as less of a cunt, then I wont have problems with Rhongo in our group.
How hard would it be to convince her to take a dip in the mud? Maybe just wear some darker clothes?
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>>4878307
>The Goddess gets almost uncharacteristically excited about the coming battle for a moment before her normal calm returns
She has a battle fetish
nice
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>>4878346
For the first part, of course she'll be less of a cunt.
The original Rhongo was basically the darkest future version of her, where she inhabited a soulless body for over a thousand years wandering without purpose as a wraith until she found what she considered to be a worthy goal of "saving" humanity.
This Rhongo has been forcibly awakened and given Gray's body, which you should note, still has a soul.
A dip in the mud isn't reco'd
She's already wearing darker clothing anyway, as seen here>>4874398
She just needs a darker chestplate, I suppose.
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>>4878310
>Take a dexterous approach, use the wall of light to your advantage for more than just regenerating magical energy. Trick the maddened knights into charging into it by dodging their blows!
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>>4878339
The betrayal wasn't bad it was the fact that it was ill thought out. Shinji had one chance and instead if backing down when it failed people doubled down. Then afterwards ataginized someome with a gun to our families head.
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>>4878339
The betrayal wasn't bad it was the fact that it was ill thought out. Shinji had one chance and instead if backing down when it failed people doubled down. Then afterwards ataginized someome with a gun to our families head.
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>>4878358
>>4878359
....why the double post, there is nothing different about them, unless you fucked up and forgot to take you name off your proxy. Regardless, we very pointedly explained what the fuck was going on, and the autistic bitch still threw a fit, fuck her regardless.
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>>4878356
If I knew this sooner I probably would have voted to try to negotiate.
Oh well. Live and Learn.
We should probably get her a body so she'll stop hoging Gray then.
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>>4878367
What is there to even learn, she showed up in the worst way possible, there was no reason to do anything but take her down and pull her out.
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>>4878362
Lag during phone post which messed me up. Thought it didn't post and did it again.
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>>4878373
4chan is weird like that sometimes.
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Dead quest
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>>4878442
k
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>>4878310

Going into regular melee is probably inadvisable, since their added strength could mean they just get to rag doll us and go for unprotected head... eye might help us read their movements and help us find weak spot, but won’t it’s function be impaired against someone driven by madness?
Key here should probably be using their madness against them somehow.

How about this

>encase yourself in a sphere of truth and go zorbing/bowling against their charge, using their momentum against them
>after breaking the charge, take them in melee before they regroup
>if necessary withdraw and redo
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>>4878310
>Activate the Pure Eye to scout out the spiritual cores of the knights
>Fire a volley of Truth'd Gandr shots at each of their spiritual cores to thin the numbers
>project the Truth Armour and Sword and touch the wall to refill
>Mana Burst off the wall towards the knights and blend them with TWO swords
>Dispel Truth sword after the initial blender attack if the cost is too high to maintain

I guess we can also fall back on some aria lines in a bind, lines 3 and 4 both offer an escape from a bind, in case we get grabbed or something during the melee?

Mana Burst back towards the wall if we need to refill?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwyuoyVQCKg

+

https://youtu.be/F_Sc3DcXowA

As inspirations for the Mana Burst yeet attack, the twin also use Mana Burst (Light) while MHX does the dual wield meme. Shinji has in canon things to base it on.
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>>4878506
Good idea of taking the initiative, but I'm not sure where your initial momentum comes from.

Also risking george flloyding Shinji inside the ball
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>>4878310
Switch>>4878339
to this>>4878554
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>>4878554
Add lines 3 and 4 before scan and Mana Burst to the Wall as a retreat should start with 5 line and ending up with 6 as we hit the Wall and get full restoration and Truth power boost.
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>>4878554
And we can make big aoe spell too.
As for some extra preparations and if we get hit with open wound, blood can be used to set up runecancer like we did before during Orochi fight. If knigths follow up after us staight ahead as we dash to the wall they will get fucked by it and we get more time.
But this is for the worst case scenario.
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>>4878555
Well we already did use bubble during a fight, and kept it up for a while too, during Ibaraki meeting for once so I don't think suffocation is a concern unless you intend to seal yourself indefinitely or without clear conditions.
As for momentum we have the enhancements and the knights are charging us, that should be enough together to make an impact, no? Although perhaps some creative use of Truth might be worthwhile to enhance the bubble for this purpose.
But I probably will switch to >>4878554 in a bit in case someone thinks of an addition or a better plan.
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>>4878310
>>4878554
Supp.

I take off for a week and look what I miss.
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>>4878587
It's really refreshing seeing some solid ideas being proposed as writeins.

You're right about the banana fight, and we're way stronger now + 2 aria counts in. I just think it might not be enough dps. If these berserkchad Enforcers are moddels after Agravain, who is the one who made the Berserk knights in the Camelot Singularity, they may have a form of Battle Continuation, which is why I'm going for full dps here with some truth armour condom + aria failsafes.

We saw from previous updates the spiritual core is an instakill too.

>>4878557
Line 3 sure, getting closer to the full heal if needed in a pinch is solid. But line 4 should be saved in case we get grabbed or pinned to spatial distortion escape button.

>>4878567
That's a bit multi track drifting, if we had SHIKI's blood manipulation making a runetrail of blood is pretty kino but it's not a passive action as Shinji is, idk where we'll have time for that. I'd also not be surprised if these buffed knights also have a basic level of Magic Resistance now, so aoe spells that don't actively destroy the spiritual core might not do much?

>>4878587
We'll try and upgrade it desu, it needs work and we have time before WhatIs wakes up, and then he'll probably be cagecucking for a few hours after that anyway.
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>>4878609
It really depends on how fight will go from there.
If we assume, we need quick actions then mana burst we can use for wall dash can be fired from Sword of Truth. It can even be used as Mana Burst jump tool.
Another fun option is to try and do Karna`s Brahmastra with our Pure Eye but this os probably above us right now and huge gamble. Same goes for making the other eye into something of the same caliber.
>I'd also not be surprised if these buffed knights also have a basic level of Magic Resistance now, so aoe spells that don't actively destroy the spiritual core might not do much?
True. They could be buffed against such thing and we need to specifically kill them really good and fast.
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Since when can we actually manaburst though? Is it from the sword?
Because we never did pick up the gloves... one of them would've been crisp by now anyway
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>>4878639
a full body mana burst is just a rapid expulsion of magical energy, we did it running away in the INS summoning caves.

It's expensive an inefficient, but we get most of that from the wall succ and it's just for the initial surprise momentum to blenderise the group and thin the numbers some more after the spiritual core deathshots hopefully fell a few.

Then we melee the remainder with Secace, and if we're bound use the 4th line to escape?
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>>4878641
or mana bursting the legs with some heavy reinforcement is probably a much more efficient way to go about it
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>>4878641
>>4878650
I see, thank you
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>>4878641
I think success of this will depend a lot on how many we'll be able to drop with the opening salvo because once we charge in we should be able to drop one, maybe two with the unstoppable Truth sword(s) before any other survivors become lethal threat. I don't think we'll get time enough to recite a verse if we're locked in a melee fight.

It would be nice to come up with way to control the battlefield somehow. Mental effects are out against mad knights but maybe something more mundane, like Grease or Ice?

Or... eh, this is crazy, but if we can manifest elemental ice, how about magnetism?
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>>4878672
iirc it was super expensive to manifest the Truth Ice against Zolgen!Orochi, I cba digging for the passage though, but elemental truth terrain is pretty based. Ice beamu and ride the ice in while manabursting for more SPEED and possibly even freeze their feet to the floor to get some ez hits in?
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>>4878673
Just really need to confirm the cost before burning our whole supply before we even jump into the fray, also the delay in us firing it and it reaching them, need to travel some distance to keep a high impact velocity
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>>4878672
>>4878673
>>4878674
If we are trying extra effects to Truth then we can add something like Truth-enchanted Decay.
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>>4878672
It's really nice to catch up to the thread and see some proper discussion of combat autism. We used to do that all the time in the forest. I missed it.

>>4878674
I think the truth icicle was too costly, yeah. We only did that in Vritra's Reality Marble. But freezing their feet to the ground is a nice way to control the battlefield

And if we're doing elements again, we could do some good old flames of Truth to delete one or two of them?
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>>4878677
>I think the truth icicle was too costly, yeah.
Mostly because it was huge.
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>>4878673
I was thinking more along the lines of forcing them to tread carefully or risk slipping as I'm not sure how hard it would be for superpowered quasiservants to break out of an icy bond like that, but giving a flair to the yeeting sounds pretty cool as well.
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>>4878718
tripping hazards is smart, restraining them against their enhanced strength might not be. But it is Truth. I guess they just rip out the floor and the ice stays attached though?
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>>4878718
It's not just an icy bond. It's an icy bond of Truth. And nothing can break Truth, except Truth.

Basically, only Alitheia would be able to rip it. And our future kids.

>>4878723
That still hinders them badly if they have to carry a piece of the floor with them.
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>>4878725
The amount of solidified truth it would take to hamper a gigachad knight could be enough to coat our whole body in armour though.
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Great battle so far.
>>4878736
Why not make truth razorwires?
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>>4878740
They cut us too, and they have to be projected from us if we go by the chains. We need to make some Truth gloves to handle them, which require heaps of dexterity and control. In future I'm all for it though.
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>>4878744
Why don't we just project them as truth strings on a glove then?
Can't we control our constructs to some degree?
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>>4878736
Why not do that then? Truth Ice Armor. Protects us AND slows down our attackers.

>>4878745
To some degree, but when we tried to bind Shuten with Truth Chains she was able to avoid them, grab the chains and yank us to her.
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>>4878745

Shinji hasn't had any practice with that kind of combat yet, and then we loose Secace's buffs to control it properly
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>>4878751
It's a shame we decided no more girls honestly.
Shuten would've been the fun wife.
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>>4878764
Just watch her yeet out a window after sleepfugging Shinji in the middle of the night with a DO WHAT YOU MUST look on her face
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>>4878765
Well that's certainly one way to get a half-oni kid unless Sakura just eats Shuten as punishment for getting to rape us first.
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Seeing as this Rhongo is a good girl, do we give her a human body or do we just take her as a weapon?
Or... both?
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>>4878788
Weapon for now. But I don't think it'll be so easy as to just be able to claim her as a weapon after the cringe Shinji pulled in the updates before.
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>>4878799
Well we did just kill almost a hundred knights.
How many females are splooshing at our performance I wonder.
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>>4878818
just you wait, I'm almost done a fucking essay of a writein incorporating more mythology autism to impress Ammy/Tammy and anon's elemental stuff where possible.

There should be a full room of sploosh if it works. If Scat saw this I don't think we'd escape being trained
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>>4878825
I like to imagine they already caught Tesla and are just waiting for us to finish and watching us on a scrying pool.
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>>4878830
fug
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>>4878831
I for one welcome duelling Shishous.
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>>4878310
>>4878554
+1
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Are we still autistically planning against 10 knights?
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>>4878310
amending
>>4878554
to..

>Activate the Pure Eye to locate the spiritual cores of the knights
>Fire a volley of Truth'd Decay Gandr shots at each of their spiritual cores to thin the numbers
(those that don't die will be hit with a powerful debilitation curse)
>project the Truth Armour and Sword and touch the wall to refill your mana reserves as you utter line 3 of the aria
(this may destabilise the barrier, do not flee even if the boundary opens, this is even better for honorkino to ignore it and charge at them instead)
>Mana Burst off the wall towards the knights by reinforcing your legs and launching, TWO swords used to blenderise anything in their path
>Use a combination of ice traps on the floor to cause slippage as you dart around, and apply Truth Fire to any knight you manage to get a chance to, fan these flames with bursts of Truth Wind from the sword of Truth, re-enacting the use of Kusanagi-no-tsurugi by Yamato Takeru (one of Ammy's descendants, an early mythological emperor of Japan who used the sword in combat)
>if grabbed with a chance of escape, explode the Truth Armour segment being held as ice shards into the knights (Takemikazuchi emulation)
>if completely overwhelmed and trapped, utter the 4th line of the aria to escape the bindings
>if mana low, dismiss the truth sword first, then the armour, reserving enough mana for one last mana burst to escape to the edge if needed
>if heavily wounded, Mana Burst to the light wall and refill while uttering the final lines of the RM for the full heal
>if Shinji has ample mana and stamina, and victory is achieved, embed the hilt of Secace into the ground, using a protective segment of Truth to protect yourself if need be, and pose on the point of the blade like Takemikazuchi did when he was sent to earth by Ammy in myth.
>if stamina/mana is too low at the end of the encounter to safely perform this mythological flex t-pose and/or it seems unwise, simply turn to Tamamo, give her a simple bow, then face Rhon and wait her response.
Trying to emulate a bit of Tammy's magic use, as well as emulating two people Ammy was very fond of in life to try and earn some GBP back while also fighting with style, kino and a good showing of our full arsenal to appease Rhon.
>In the Kojiki (Conquest of Izumo chapter), the heavenly deities Amaterasu and Takamusubi decreed that either Takemikazuchi or his father Itsu-no-ohabari [ja] ("Heaven-Point-Blade-Extended") must be sent down for the conquest.
>When the challenger grabbed Takemikazuchi's hand it turned as if into an icicle and then a sword, making him cringe.
The sword t-pose in question: https://youtu.be/nj2yE2FbxeA?t=96
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>>4878310
Supporting >>4878851
So many incestous plotlines for Ammy as the same time.
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>>4878854
Both Brothers, her Son and her favourite Grandchild
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>>4878851
Well, if show is what they asked for, then show is what they are going to get.

>>4878310
switching from >>4878506
to this >>4878851
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>>4878310
Support >>4878851
Covers everything. The show must go on.
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>>4878856
Next step is Izanagi impersonation.
I hope we get Interlude from audience perspective on this fight too.
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>>4878862
Yeah, I really hope for that too.
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>>4878862
Who in particular though?
I think Mordred could be fun.
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>>4878871
tfw just jumped to the spot of First Knight in her eyes
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>>4878310
change >>4878554
to >>4878851
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>>4878874
internal turmoil time
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>>4878851
>making him cringe.
About sums up this write-in yeah.
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>>4878880
battle autismlet
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If we want Lancer Alter we can always grab the Corpse King from Logos React.
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>>4878871
Tamamo will have the most impactful scene.
Mordred, Vritra and Scáthach will definitely enjoy watching it. Mordred might be just telling everyone our every next move with her new Instinct.
Something like back and forth commentary between Karna and Ciel would work too.
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>>4878897
>Logos React
We'd have to go to Atlas directly, Add is kill.

Good thing we stole the spear and not Black Barrel when we had the chance, pretty sure I mentioned making an enemy of Atlas wouldn't be wise when they had every possibility of being neutral. Meanwhile, the church was already likely to seethe at us and the Blessed Circuits + YHWH chats just utterly blow them the fuck out.
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>>4878898
Or it could be from the PoV of our biggest fan, and future mother of our children. She'll be really invested in the fight, that's for sure.

>>4878901
I don't remember if it was you, but the diplomatic ramifications were certainly mentioned and I agreed. Atlas and the Wandering Sea will be great allies for the Age of Truth, it's really good we didn't piss one of them off back then.
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>>4878903
>Or it could be from the PoV of our biggest fan, and future mother of our children. She'll be really invested in the fight, that's for sure.
Agree on Nero POV.
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>>4878910
Ave, Caesar, morituri te salutant.
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>>4878920
All jokes aside it should probably be somebody with actual combat skill and not just grug.
Or Tamamo.
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>>4878927
Amaterasu is also goddess of war and conquest and Tamamo knows quite a lot about war too. So, something like Ammy and Tamamo talk after seeing all of this is going to be something rather interesting to behold.
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Somebody tally.
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>>4878964
Somebody?

>>4878310

>Take a dexterous approach, use the wall of light to your advantage for more than just regenerating magical energy. Trick the maddened knights into charging into it by dodging their blows
>>4878317
>>4878330
>>4878357

>>Take a defensive approach, you can resummon that armor now that you've got all your magical energy back. Take their blows without flinching and crush them in retaliation.
>>4878383

>Early combat autism
>>4878556
>>4878598

>Kino revised combat autism
>>4878851
>>4878854
>>4878857
>>4878860
>>4878875

Kino wins.
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OK now have an hour to decide on who's POV you want this update from.
This is a vote.
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>>4878968
Tamamo as she seems most interesting one.
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>>4878968
Tamamo. Can't be anyone else.
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>>4878968
Give me best Girl Tamamo PoV.
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>>4878966
desu a lot of those maneuvers seem rather dex intensive

>>4878968
that's a Tamamo alright
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>>4878968
tamamo
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>>4878968
Suzuka Gozen

But seriously Tamamo.
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>>4878993
who?

just kidding, poor Suzuka.

Imagine ending this war, and all subsequent threats to humanity, in her RM if she was given JK powers...
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>>4878993
>>4878997
If you are Big Brain enough she is still one of the strongest Servants we have.
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>>4879002
Hopefully she'll get her time to shine later; I was going for it's kind of a given Tamamo should get the POV here unless bait and switch for the other fox servant.
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>>4878968
Fox mommy
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>>4878968
Neco-Arc
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>>4878968
Tamamo
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>>4878968
Tamamo, she deserves it for accidentally breaking the NP.
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>>4878968
Tamamo.
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Interlude Start

Tamamo... wasn't happy. At all, the man she had decided she loved had... done something inexplicably foolish, and through his strange powers, he had done something she had thought completely impossible. He had shattered her most sacred possession with but a touch. In fact, judging from the look on his face when her mirror shattered and disappeared completely, it was a complete accident too! She didn't know if that made her angrier, knowing that he had managed to slip up and destroy her mirror totally entirely by accident, than it would if he had just broken it on purpose... No, she could definitely still forgive him for breaking it due to it being an accident. Though the Goddess he faced as his enemy was... less forgiving to his breaking of his own truce. She knew that she'd need to have a few stern words with him about keeping his word to goddesses in the future. They don't take kindly to being deceived or tricked, and breaking your word to a goddess like he did...? Well, it was a foolish gambit that really didn't pay off... She couldn't say that much though, considering she was complicit in his truce breaking and even assisted him in it!

Now, the man she loved had accepted a fool's challenge. A living human being taking on a hundred knights, each knight by themselves was on the level of a Servant. Her husband-to-be was brave, she knew that much, but this was a fool's challenge. She wanted to call out to stop him, but... somehow, she knew that it would all be alright. This was the man who saved her from Yamata-no-Orochi... no! This was the man who killed Yamata-no-Orochi! She felt her hope for her husband-to-be beginning to bolster as she considered just how powerful that he was for a single human. That part of her had an unwavering confidence in him, even after he shattered her mirror, there was a part of her who despite being furious at the destruction of such a precious belonging, only seemed to... grow more attached to the blue haired boy. Of course, Tamamo loved Shinji, she was certain of that, but she loved him on her own terms! She wasn't going to allow her past life to dominate her! Trying to put the similarities she felt between this boy and Susanoo aside, she kept watching.
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The fight began after he asked for a blade from one of his allies, and he ended up with a decorated blade, that despite having a somewhat ceremonial look, was none the duller for it. The blade held a supernatural sharpness, as seen when Shinji effortlessly wielded it in order to slash through the magically reinforced steel worn by his opponents. She watched in mute awe all the while as he systemically defeated knight after knight, setting up a system of duels with powerful rune magic and forcing the knights attacking him into one on one battles over and over again, until he was looking tired. Ninety one of the opposing knights had been slain, and she had started to loathe the looks that the Goddess had started to give her husband-to-be. While on the surface the woman was completely emotionless, Tamamo knew the nature of a goddess better, she might not have understood them, but there were emotions inside of her, and... that look of admiration... it was bad enough she had to share with all of those other girls. Of course, right now, that Goddess opposing her was simply too strong for her to defeat with only four tails. In fact, even if she had six tails, she'd still lose out against that Goddess. She'd need at least seven of her tails in order to defeat her... and that was something that Tamamo just didn't want to risk doing. she had been gifted with a tremendously powerful master with extreme compatibility allowing her to call upon the land itself to manifest her as a Divine Spirit instead of the form of an Evil Spirit she would've normally taken upon being summoned in Japan, but she had sealed that power without a single regret when the opportunity to do so was presented to her. Tetsuka... There was a reason that she survived where her siblings didn't, a reason she summoned her, and a reason that Tamamo was so dedicated to seeing the survival of her Master...

She stopped thinking about the girl she had accepted as her daughter for a moment in order to turn her attention back to the man she sought as a husband. His stamina was flagging, and she desperately wished to help him, a sentiment clearly shared by many of the others watching, there were some who were clearly only barely able to restrain themselves from helping the man in his battle, but they managed to hold back, and a good thing. His sister, Sakura, she might've had the power required to defeat the Goddess Rhongomyniad in her current form, but... the ensuing battle would surely lead to the destruction of not just this city, but all of Japan. The entire country would be destroyed should the two girls clash.
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She was just about to step in herself and demand an end to the battle when she saw the stamina of her husband beginning to flag, but the man did something she hadn't expected at all, he managed to sneak towards the wall of holy energy as the Goddess spoke to her remaining knights, and... absorbed a great deal of power from it just as the Goddess increased the power of each of her knights by granting them the strength of madness! He had restored himself to the peak of his strength!

"Now! Let's go!" The dashing blue haired man brandishes his blade at the nine remaining knights as they each charge madly towards him, before his eye suddenly begins to glow a bright gold once again. Tamamo had... never seen the likes of this sort of human before. Entirely spontaneously, he had managed to develop a Pure Eye that while she was unable to determine the exact ability of, was something that easily enabled him to discern things about his enemies, it was something easily on the level of a divine mystery, and he... just developed it on a complete whim! His abilities were clearly beyond that of any human, and with the sort of things he had managed, Tamamo was... starting to believe that the full extent of his strength laid beyond even the gods.
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After he glanced at his opponents, he raised his other hand slowly, and spoke the name of a spell, the smile never leaving his face as he did. "Gandr." With that invocation, he fired a barrage of nine bolts of black and gold cursed light towards the nine knights, the first of the charging knights was hit directly in the head with the cursed bolt of light, and his entire head was smashed into pulp as the golden bullet collided with his head, resulting in a mutual annihilation of head and curse as the head of the knight dissolved away, shortly followed by the rest of the knight dissipating into energy. The rest of the knights, acknowledging the threat of his magic, made efforts to avoid them. Though despite their efforts two more of them were still hit in their limbs, leaving them in such debilitating agony that even despite the Madness Enhancement that had been forced upon them, they had no choice but to drop their weapons as the hit arms rapidly decayed away. Of course they continued their charge regardless, even deprived of a weapon. "Huh, wasn't expecting that to have been so useful." Shinji simply shrugged as he looked at the tip of his finger, with surprise. "I'll have to remember to use this one more often in the future." He then hardened his expression again, before a golden blade of energy appeared in his free hand and his body was clad in the same armor he had used to great effect previously to survive the initial charge, though he didn't move away from the wall, instead choosing to touch it once more, and speak another line of that mysterious incantation as he sapped yet more power from it, though the wall held strong regardless, the amount of power contained within it was far too great to be siphoned away with what Shinji was doing to it, not unless he wanted to use his body to try to process the sum of the energy in the wall into a different form.

"An infinity of lies."

Space seems to shift a little around him from this incantation, before he suddenly dashes away from the wall, a small explosion of energy is left in his wake as he nearly becomes too fast for her to track, with his two blades, two more of the bulky knights and cleaved in two, slashed multiple times as he passes through them. The final battle had only just begun, and already three of his nine opponents were dead, and a further two were injured severely. Of course, his attack had only been so successful due to being so unexpected, and the rest of the five knights, despite the madness coursing through their bodies, take on a more defensive posture, prepared to strike him out of the air should he attempt to use his superior speed to blitz through any more of them. Tamamo had also noticed that with every knight he slew, he was getting... slower. It wasn't as a result of his magical energy decreasing rapidly either, no... it seemed that his sword provided him power proportional to the amount of opponents he was facing!
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He keeps darting around the knights, slashing at their exposed weak spots, but not being given the opportunity to strike at any of the remaining five knights, even the two who had previously been disarmed had taken up their dropped weapons in their remaining hands. Though that seemingly wasn't the point of his attacks anyway. His all-out assault was in fact all a ruse in order to allow him to carve runes on the floor, scratching runes on the cracked tiles as he darted around, and with a snap of his fingers, the network of runes activated, and a great deal of the floor took on a white sheen as it was frozen over with ice. Tamamo could only just hold herself back from cheering loudly for the man as the five knights were now stranded on a field on ice, barely able to keep their balance as they kept trying to charge towards him.

Then, he made an error. He dived towards one of the knights, clearly attempting to skewer his fifth knight, but just as his two blades were about to tear through the armor of his enemy once again, he is suddenly smashed to the side with a punch, throwing him off course and into a grab by a third knight waiting in the wings. Tamamo's breath caught in her throat as she saw her husband in a dangerous situation, but she could only hope he had a way out of this, and of course, he did.

He kept smiling as the golden layer of armor around his body took on the same blue sheen as the floor, before suddenly exploding outwards onto the knight attempting to crush him with his superior strength, his armor was gone, but the knight was totally frozen in exchange. With a quick kick, the entire knight shattered into particles of ice, completely obliterated in a single strike, and leaving him with just four knights left to deal with. Two of which were injured. Tamamo couldn't help but feel like she was falling in love with him all over again as she witnessed his incredible performance against these foes. While he was impressive against the ninety, his true potential was being revealed here.

"I don't need my armor to deal with you weaklings." He made a confident declaration as he faced off against the last four of the knights, who had managed to overcome their poor footing by simply smashing their feet into the floor, piercing into the concrete to avoid the conceptual slipperiness of the ice. Of course, their adaptation to his methods clearly meant very little to him, as he simply changed his style of attacking once again. When they tried to adapt to his offense, he switched to defense, when they adapted to his defense, he switched to running circles around them, when they tried to trap him, he used his magic in an unexpected way.
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Of course, despite everything, and for all the power he held, it was clear to Tamamo that her husband-to-be still had a way to go when it came to actually learning how to read a battlefield, and when he moved to strike one of the knights lethally once more, they allowed him to stab them, moving their bodies ever so slightly to avert the lethality of his strike, and retaliate with one of their own. A large claymore was plunged through her husband-to-be's stomach. Tamamo screamed in shock at the sight of the lethal wound, as did more than a few of the other women watching. "Damn, lucky shot." Her husband seemed to have accepted his loss as he stared at the blade sticking through him. Before he coughed up blood just he used his own golden blade to slash through the large sword piercing through his chest. His first blade, Secace, was still embedded in the knight as he leapt away from the knight who had mortally injured him.

"You are mortally wounded and will die without being healed, this battle is over." The Goddess overseeing the battle tried to declare an end, but...

"No! I'm not finished yet!" Shinji leapt towards the wall that the goddess had erected once again, blood flowing freely from his large wound as he did. He touched the wall once again, using it to recover the full extent of his magical energy once more, and he started to speak those invocations of his again. Even as the knights began to encroach upon him.

"Blind to the beyond" Space kept shifting.

"I shall guide the way" There was something wrong.

"A perfect world of my own creation!" He was restored.

His wound, which was previously hindering him terribly, healed up instantly. All of the injuries on his body that had yet to heal were restored, and even his hair, which had gotten messed up in the battle, was restored to the level of somebody who had just gotten out of a professional salon. The watching crowd seemed to breathe a collective sigh of relief as he healed himself, Tamamo included.

"I've had just about enough of this." He stated with anger in his voice, clearly vengeful for the sword that had been plunged through his chest, and he once against used his superior speed to appear in front of the knight Secace was sticking out of before crouching down and touching the floor with his free hand, just below the knight.
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A great pillar of flame erupted just beneath the knight, and without skipping a beat, Shinji leapt up, grabbed his sword from the rapidly burning up knight, and slashed through the pillar with his golden sword of energy. The sword seemed to contain a powerful spell of wind too, as upon being slashed through, the pillar was blown away in a wave, coursing towards the remaining knights. Injured or caught off guard, there was little that they could do to protect themselves from the wave of flame, and the fight ended, just like that. The nine strengthened knights had been defeated, and Shinji stand there in the middle of the patch of ice, which he dismissed with a snap of his fingers before turning to Tamamo and... bowing to her!? He was prioritizing her over anybody else! W-well... Good! That's the least he can do after he broke her mirror! She... felt like some of the attacks he was making... reminded her of something...

Interlude Out.
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>>4879307
Oh no we turned her on
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You panted in exertion once again, you had barely managed to win against all those knights, but you pulled through in the end, after turning to Tamamo and bowing to her, you turn your attention back to the Goddess who set this challenge for you. "Well, have I made up for my earlier deception?" You keep the smile you've had on your face throughout the battle as you speak with the Goddess once more, and she looks at you with... anticipation.

"You have, however... I have one last challenge for you, if you would accept it." The Goddess seems to be speaking with more... rapidity then before. For some reason.

"One last challenge? Was this not enough?" You gesture at the destruction left from the annihilation of the knights, and the Goddess looks at you with a steely gaze.

"It was enough to earn my forgiveness, however, I find myself..." The Goddess trails off as she looks at you.

"Find yourself... what?" You ask with suspicion in your voice. Worried about whatever the goddess might be about to say next.

Then, a golden blade of holy energy appears in the Goddess' hand, which she points at you. "I find myself inspired! I long to do battle with you myself! Blade against blade! With nothing but our swords and our skill!" The Goddess sounds genuinely excited as she looks at you.

What.

>Accept the challenge.
>Decline Rhongomyniad. She got what she wanted, so now she can go.
>Write-in...
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Do we want to ask for a better weapon for a 1v1 from Saber or Shirou?
Also poor Tamamo watching even more whores throwing themselves at her man.
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>>4879311
>"Get off my lawn, or get out of my friend first."
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>>4879314
Yes, we definitely want a better weapon if we are to accept. Secace was meant to drive out an invading army, and it did its job. We should thank Artoria and ask Rhongo to switch. Arondight, perhaps? Unbreakable and it increases all stats by one.
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>>4879320
>Arondight
>Lancelot seethes from the other side of the barrier.
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>>4879325
Secace was also his sword. He used it in a battle to drive out the Saxon barbarian invaders by himself. That's why Rhongo's soldiers recognized it and seethed.
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>>4879311
>Accept the challenge.
>>Request Rhongo to switch your sword for one more adequate for your duel.
>>Ask Saber if she can lend you Arondight.
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>>4879326
Didn't know that. Still he's using Arondight right now, so wont that mean Saber just steals it from him?
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>>4879311
>>Accept the challenge.
>>Write-in...
Ask Saber if we can borrow Marmyadose.
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>>4879333
No.
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>>4879333
Nope. Artoria has her own Arondight now, and it's almost certainly the uncorrupted form of the sword. She has her own copy of everything. She can just stop JETS from activating his Noble Phantasm if she sees him in time.
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>>4879333
Nah. It's not like there's not several excaliburs in circulation already.
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>>4879311
>>4879330
+1.
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>Arondight
Another interesting sword for the job is
>Courtain (also Curtana, Cortana, Sword of Mercy), it is linked to the legendary sword carried by Tristan and Ogier the Dane. Its end is blunt and squared, said to symbolize mercy. The story surrounding the breaking of the weapon is unknown, but mythological history indicates that the tip was broken off by an angel to prevent a wrongful killing.
We should be able to tank her
>Then, a golden blade of holy energy appears in the Goddess' hand, which she points at you.
As it is made out of holy energy and not Torrent of Light explosion. Stab her with sword that can`t kill good people, Truth barrier around to prevent Manaka from teleporting her away and just break her binding to Manaka ourselves.

Another good bait is to get that Hope buff and just suggest arm wrestling competition to her.
Her Strength: A+++ versus our
>Megingjörð: Thunder God's Belt of Strength: A Rank Anti-Unit(Self) Noble Phantasm
>A Belt given to you by Gilgamesh, the functionally identical prototype of Megingjörð, the belt of Thor.
>Passively doubles the strength of whoever is wearing the belt without cost. The strength granted through this belt can be used to exceed the normal limits of a Servant's strength, should it be granted to them, and it adjusts itself to any size in order to fit the wearer. Should a Servant with A+ Strength wear this belt, they would be given A++ Strength, and should a Servant with A++ Strength wear the belt, they would instead be granted the equivalent of EX level Strength.
>When worn by an already powerful warrior, this belt truly brings out god-like abilities
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>>4879337
>>4879341
>>4879343
K.
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>>4879311
switching>>4879315
to>>4879330
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>>4879350
Yeah, you're right. We probably can't win this even with Arondight. Rhongo is a monster. But this is a good chance to break her out of Manaka's clutches, and it'll be difficult to get another.
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The point isn't to win, but to impresss her.
I'd say we're doing a good job, discounting the failed betrayal.
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>>4879361
Will just grabbing a sword and hacking away impress her though? Compare it to what we did in the past few updates, and it's very lacking.
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We're having babies with tamamo right? She's becoming my favorite.
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>>4879358
Why not ask for Marmyadose and see how well it stacks up compared to Rhongobongo in a straight fight, if we're not expecting to win.
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>>4879364
This isn't the combat vote yet, its to accept the fight.
I'm sure there will be another one after to decide how to fight.
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>>4879358
What about Lance of longinus?
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>>4879368
Ask it from home? Only Castoria has it from what I've seen.

>>4879369
Why would you expect that? Look at how large the average update is, and what happened last time we accepted. We immediately moved to combat and killed 91 knights. Asking for Secace was only a small part of the whole plan.
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>>4879370
Wait, you want to KILL her? Batman, come on...
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>>4879311
>Accept the challengr
>Propose a Joust in the gardens
>Ask Medusa for Pegasus
>Ask Shirou or Artoria for Rhongomyniad Alter

This will satisfy her the most.
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>>4879371
Saber. From as far as I know, her concept gives her access related to everything from Arthurian Legend. Marmyadose is one of those swords, so she should have it.

Arthur took it from King Ryence of Gore.
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>>4879371
Not like QM hasn't done small updates before.
QM, do we have to write in an attack plan now?
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>>4879378
No.
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>>4879350
good idea, we absolutely don't want to risk killing Gray over this.
In fact it's a question whether we should not deny the duel outright, not wanting to harm her host.
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>>4879311
Galachad had David's sword, which means so does Artoria.

>This is the sword of the Prophet and King David. ... Near the cross guard is an engraved image of a man holding a human head in one hand and a sword in the other, symbolizing the story of the prophet David and Goliath.

This is a perfect David and Goliath fight.

>Accept the challenge, ask to borrow a new weapon as Secace as repelled the invaders successfully and is not not fit for the task
>Ask Artoria's for Galahad's Sword, the Sword of David, and return Secace to her.
>Face off against Rhon with the conceptual armament of the simple man who overcame insurmountable odds against a foe many times his strength

Also, Blessed Circuits + YHWH blessings oh and harem coomer, just like ya boy David.
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>>4879311
>>4879385
Support. Sword of David is perfect for what we're about to do. We should thank Artoria too for lending us Secace. And of course, this is not a fight to the death. We don't want to kill Gray, but that goes without saying.
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>>4879379
ngl WhatIs, I'm worried about how you're gonna fill an update with just this.
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>>4879385
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Samuel%2017&version=NIV

>38 Then Saul dressed David in his own tunic. He put a coat of armor on him and a bronze helmet on his head. 39 David fastened on his sword over the tunic and tried walking around, because he was not used to them.

>“I cannot go in these,” he said to Saul, “because I am not used to them.” So he took them off.

Debating unequipping all the armaments too.

But they seem to fit pretty well. We've used the Sash a lot, it's becoming almost Shinji's at this point.
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>>4879401
David wasn't used to them. We are. You said it yourself, Ares's Sash practically belongs to Shinji now. It's not like Alcides wants it anyway.
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>>4879311
Supporting >>4879385
But Arondight is close second.
>>4879358
>>4879380
If we assume arm wrestling gets accepted it is the best path since we just stall it for 10 second and get inside of her and break Manaka`s control. But she is a Spear so she might only want to go for weapon against weapon challenge.
But since we actually have Sword of David of all things, I`ll go for it.
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>>4879385
Support if you add a kiss tamamo
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>>4879357
>>4879311
Switching to the updated plan>>4879385
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Calling in ten
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Also, Galachad was the only KOTR to refuse Rhon's summons in the Camelot singularity.

More pottery.
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>>4879311
Support >>4879385
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>>4879426
Galachad is based. He even told Chaldea to fuck off, he won't work for these shitters.
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>>4879311
amending
>>4879385
To include also utilising a Truth Blade, Rhon specifically projected something to emulate it, so we should not cuck her out of the chance to test her own projection against ours.

We might not even have to brandish David's sword, just have it on us. David never actually drew it against Goliath, it just became a symbol of that victory. So the David v Goliath memebuff should apply with it on our hip.

>Accept the challenge, ask to borrow a new weapon as Secace as repelled the invaders successfully and is not not fit for the task
>Ask Artoria's for Galahad's Sword, the Sword of David, and return Secace to her.
>Face off against Rhon with the conceptual armament of the simple man who overcame insurmountable odds against a foe many times his strength
>With the complete Aria making Truth cheaper and more permanent, use your own Sword of Truth as your primary weapon to clash with Rhon for the fight, only drawing the Sword of David if absolutely needed.

Shinji's appraisal of Treasure + TROOF eye should tell him what he needs to know about using Galachad/David's sword properly.

I do want to match Rhon in the way she most likely wants to be fought, however.
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>>4879311
Seconding waving our golden rod as well>>4879437
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>>4879311
Switch >>4879396 to >>4879437 I guess.
Didn't WhatIs NOT just say no plan required? Sword of Truth can be drawn in an instant. You can't help yourself from more autism, can you, you damn cat?
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>>4879437
Support
>>4879311
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>>4879446
Battlechads in the thread

TWO SWORDS
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>>4879311
From >>4879404 to >>4879437
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>>4879437
Seconding>>4879407
>>4879311
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Gotta say, having Niggerman around is nice and all, but it makes me not really want to bother with plans, since he'll always think of some obscure thing that is a lot better and more apropriate anyways.
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>>4879450
Time for some
>A dragon cries in the distance
For our victory.
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>>4879454
Why do you think I take my hands off the wheel occasionally?

I only improved this because of the anon's suggestions. I wouldn't have gone digging for all the god emulation and elemental autism if he hadn't suggested it.

The best plans always require extra input.
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>>4879454
Well, this was a short one. We wanted a sword, he came up with the best. If you check just the previous vote though, you'll see that the nigger's original plan was discussed and amended with input from others. Saying the Aria before we blast off, Decay Gandr, Ice, Flame, all those were suggestions by others that the nigger added.
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>>4879454
Yeah, same. Nobody ever listens or even pays attention to my ideas. They just pile onto the first autistic write in they see.
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>>4879466
Yeah that's why I don't like the name fags.
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>>4879466
Remember how that fucked up hard recently though. I like when people critique my stuff so it can be refined and improved.

Remember the forest autism?

That was peak ploooon kino. Me and like 4 or 5 other anons all worked together to optimise stuff.

If we didn't do what we did then, Medea would have died, and Tamamo would have been depowered (or vice versa) by Chiyome dabbing on them for Orochi. WhatIs confirmed this.
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>>4879480
That was from a namefag.
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>>4879466
never forget this abomination which won the vote, and almost lost to going into fight with no prep against 100 knights

>>4876247
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>>4879485
Bitch all you want you Namefaggot, you didn't say a damn thing or come up with something better. Blow me.
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>>4879480
Medea would have been killed by Salter, everyone would have been depowered by Chiyome, Gil would have been killed by Enkidu forma de Angra, and those are only just three examples of plans we spent hours improving bit by bit until they covered all angles. I really miss those days.
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>>4879485
Check the post I linked, it was an anon. I know reading comprehension is hard for you batmong.

Also, where the fuck is Cain and Josh? They weren't mentioned at all amidst these updates. Very intredasting.

If Heaven concepting worked, we could have cheated Cain into Heaven too, which would have been a fat dab on YHWH lmao
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>>4879420
Tally

>>4879311
>Accept the challenge.
>>Request Rhongo to switch your sword for one more adequate for your duel.
>>Ask Saber if she can lend you Arondight.
>>4879330
>>4879345

>>Accept the challenge.
>>Write-in...
Ask Saber if we can borrow Marmyadose.
>>4879336

>Accept the challengr
>Propose a Joust in the gardens
>Ask Medusa for Pegasus
>Ask Shirou or Artoria for Rhongomyniad Alter
>>4879375

>Accept the challenge, ask to borrow a new weapon as Secace as repelled the invaders successfully and is not not fit for the task
>Ask Artoria's for Galahad's Sword, the Sword of David, and return Secace to her.
>Face off against Rhon with the conceptual armament of the simple man who overcame insurmountable odds against a foe many times his strength
>>4879429

>Accept the challenge, ask to borrow a new weapon as Secace as repelled the invaders successfully and is not not fit for the task
>Ask Artoria's for Galahad's Sword, the Sword of David, and return Secace to her.
>Face off against Rhon with the conceptual armament of the simple man who overcame insurmountable odds against a foe many times his strength
>With the complete Aria making Truth cheaper and more permanent, use your own Sword of Truth as your primary weapon to clash with Rhon for the fight, only drawing the Sword of David if absolutely needed.
>>4879437
>>4879444
>>4879446
>>4879448
>>4879451
>>4879452
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>>4879493
I'm employed and can't be here at all hours?

Cope I guess?
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>>4879500
Cain probably fucked off with his master all things considered, not like he has much obligation to stay here.
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>>4879500
Cope namefag
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>>4879507
noooo the fooderino...

Cain senpai didn't notice Shinji activate kino mode
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>>4879507
Probably, yeah. I imagine he ran off the moment things went wrong.
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>>4879505
Suck my dick, you were around when that vote was going on, and you and Autist didn't say a damn thing till after the count.
>>4879510
Unless his master told him to at least keep an eye on us? Unlikely with all the Jacks around but you never know.
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>>4879516
Just because I could post here and there doesn't mean I had time to make something. Gotta stand on your own two feet and think critically here and there.

I do recall posting resources to use to help.
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>>4879500
>>4879507
>>4879510
>>4879513
We can scry for his Master now.
As long as they don`t get captured it should be fine.
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>>4879521
>teleport him back
>hand him and Josh a bowl of eggs
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>>4879520
The bare bones list in pastebin that doesn't have everything or the obscure shit you know to pull out your ass, totally useful.
>>4879521
True enough, I wonder if Betty has been looking for them.
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>>4879528
Did you need me to link you google too?
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>>4879525
Hey, that is cruel and unusual punishment! Its not their fault our party was crashed.
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>>4879459
Maybe I should have kept my thoughts to myself.
You're right about the plan thing though.
No idea why that green anon is always so angry though.
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>>4879532
His Saiyan heritage
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>>4879529
Oh wow, infinite knowledge at my fingertips, provided the info isn't blocked by Google analytics, if only I knew what the hell to look for.
>>4879532
Its almost like hearing smarmy attention whoring namefags talk shit when they keep their mouths shut is irritating.
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>>4879528
https://pastebin.com/h152hbhV
For EVERYTHING specific to this quest

https://typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/TYPE-MOON_Wiki
For EVERYTHING specific to Type Moon

https://www.google.com/
For EVERYTHING else.

There. You can start reading. No excuses now.
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>>4879540
To add to this:

Bond Ces, lots of servant info and dialogue
https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/Fate/Grand_Order_Wikia
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Hell, I think the only time I was really useful was when I realized the Vritra Human Obstacle thing, when the plan before was just to give her women and booze.
I have pretty limited knowledge compared to some other people here, only the OG Fate, Zero and FGO.
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>>4879532
He's upset that his retarded speech got us killed, and he's even more upset that it's getting called out as retarded.

>>4879546
Gachashit is cancer.
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>>4879549
And even if that's all you did, that was pretty damn influential. All it takes is a single good idea, anon. Ganbatte.
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So woke up and I see finally Shinji using all that combat training. No one can say training is bad now.
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>>4879550
Oh yeah, calling it out after the fact and saying fucking nothing is such an accomplishment you pedantic faggot.
>>4879554
Pretty sure no one said training is bad.
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>>4879540
To be fair that's a needle in a hay stack. You gotta know to look for something before you use it.
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>>4879558
It's not that hard
>Rhongomyniad shows up
>Head to the wiki
>Search for Rhongomyniad
>Read
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>>4879556
When it was suggested to take a break to train and SL there was massive opposition.
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>>4879564
>READING?

Walldrop for you, Confucian
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>>4879564
First the quest version is different from the one in FGO and I wasn't talking about her but the list of weapons Saber has access to.
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>>4879567
When was that?
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>>4879572
I made pastebins of all of that and got 0 (you)s
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>>4879572

>>4873550
>>4873607
You mean this? Or perhaps you could
https://googlethatforyou.com/?q=arthurian%20legend%20weapons
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>>4879579
What bin?
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>>4879584
>>4879582
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>>4879587
Ah.
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>>4879582
Arthurian legend
Excalibur – King Arthur's magical warsword.
Clarent – King Arthur's sword of peace. Also known as the Coward's Blade, as it is the sword Mordred stole and later used to kill King Arthur.
Carnwennan - King Arthur's dagger, sometimes described to shroud the user in shadow.
Rhongomiant - King Arthur's Spear
Caliburn - The sword King Arthur pulled from the stone

This is what I got and I don't see some of the examples were using. I'd probably have to look up the individuals through the fate wiki before having an idea.
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>>4879582
NVM niggamans post had it. I'll admit I wasn't around during that list because I was going in and out during this break day.
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>>4879592
SAY

MY

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>>4879569
>>4879564
Yeah reading wiki on that one would not have helped at all.

She's also still a Servant under control of Manaka and bound to obey her command and we have nothing but QM's word that she can be trusted.

That and, as I belatedly realized, her being a saberface possibly earning her some slack with Manaka, although even that is a rather obscure snippet that's not really been raised, at least not in last few threads.
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Who has access to the quest status menu. Maybe we could get that embedded into her status sheet for later.
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>>4879601
Meow.
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>>4879607
https://pastebin.com/h152hbhV

Rhon is there.

Every single time WhatIs posts Status Updated in a text, anything with [Wis Up] in here is a new addition to start reading into.
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>>4879611
Not Think I meant the weapons link. I don't think it's in Sabers status sheet. Unless you wish to come back to this thread every time.
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God I wish we could borrow Nobu's anti-divine skills.
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>>4879617
That list isn't complete either, I missed some stuff like Ywain's Lion in the animals list, as well as things like https://typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Bright_Ehangwen for equipment that Artoria would likely have access to. I don't know if I had David's sword in there either.

She has a really deep bag of tricks, there's a reason WhatIs didn't write them all in. We'll just have to search around if we need to find something
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>>4879625
Sword of David wasn't in there either, though Secace was.
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How good is Shinji's eye? Faints shouldn't be able to trick him but can he use it to augment his eye of the mind? Muscle twitches, displacing air etc to help prediction.
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Wait we're getting the Sword of Strange Hangings? Fuck yes, always liked that sword
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Also how do we plan to deal with her instinct? We could use snake martial arts but right now we're using a sword.

Any ideas we have access to? Use runes to attempt to confuse it?
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The Sheath of the sword is called Memory of Blood.

It's named in myth, yet has no listed effect as the author died before he finished the story.

But.. Galahad was a descendent of David.

As was Christ.

Jacob was in turn David's ancestor, the same Jacob who wrestled an Archangel with his bare hands, creating the Jacob's Limbs combat style that all Saints etc. use in Typemoon to dab on supernaturals and Divine being especially.
Here's the lineage list and info.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genealogy_of_Jesus

Rhongobongo is a full fledged god, and would not be unsurprising if she was some kind of Angel derivation. Holy, Autistic, Light weaponry etc. Plenty of links to Angels. Look at her card art even as pictured.

I wonder if Memory of Blood allows the user to tap into this Christchad lineage and utilise something like Jacob's Limbs?

Blessed Circuits + YHWH bought Isekaibro into the world.

Could be very kino.
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>>4879748
Why don't we just summon all the apostles and what not. Peter and Paul are badasses
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>>4879764
Just look into a mirror and get YHWH on the line.

Owait we broke it lmaooo
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>>4879771
Did we have to use the mirror last time? We could just pray? Lol
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>>4879775
We've spoken to god after looking in a mirror after we blacked out. Can't risk blacking out here, but I reckon trying to scan ourselves with the Pure Eye of Truth in a mirror might get close
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"I accept your challenge, Goddess Rhongomyniad." You stare at the Goddess, who doesn't look surprised at your response. Almost as if she was expecting you to take her up on the challenge which by all rights should be absolutely suicidal. Strangely though, you feel as if the Goddess is... trustworthy. When she says that it will be a battle between your swords and your skill, you feel like you can actually trust her not to just overwhelm you with her variant of Mana Burst, which would easily overwhelm you in an instant.

"I had a feeling you wouldn't disappoint me on this." The Goddess gives you a smile, and it's... really not something you'd have expected to see from either the Goddess Rhongomyniad, or even her host. Gray really wasn't the sort of girl who smiled very often either.

"But... before we do battle, would you mind if I switched my weapon out? Secace has... done its job at repelling the invaders, and now I wish to take the opportunity to wield a more... well, a more suitable weapon.

"Oh, will you not duel me with your own blade of light?" Rhongomyniad looks disappointed as she looks at the sword in her own hand. Formed in the phantom shape of Excalibur, in terms of shape, it's almost a perfect replica of the Sword of Promised Victory... but is just a construct formed out of her own energy. It seems that your Sword of Truth has had quite the profound effect on the Goddess born of a spear, that she's actually willingly going into battle wielding a sword instead of... well, herself.

"Well, of course, if that is your wish, but... I would still appreciate a weapon to wield as a back-up in case my power falters. My reserves aren't so... vast as yours, Rhongomyniad." Of course, compared to a genuine Goddess, your powers right now will fall flat, at least in terms of quantity alone. The fact that Rhongomyniad is outright requesting to be battled with your own blade is... really quite telling of how profoundly that your battle against her knights must have affected her. At least she seems to have forgotten her previous anger at you for breaking your truce with her.

"Then you may switch your blade to whatever weapon you may wish, though I expect you to only keep it as a weapon to be used if your magic power falters." Rhongomyniad makes her decision, and you decide that's fair enough. After all, there's no reason for her to even allow you the opportunity to switch out your weapon at all, so she's really being very merciful... no, not merciful. That's not the right word for it... In fact, for some reason, it feels like the only real words you can use to describe her behavior is... 'good sportsmanship'? Funny, you never thought you'd be thinking that about Rhongomyniad of all people, but here you are, about to duel a Goddess in single combat.
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"Saber!" You toss Secace back to Saber, who catches it out of the air and has it disappear into blue light as she does, returning it to the Arsenal of Camelot. "Can you pass me the..." You think for a moment, about the best sword for the job, before you decide on just the weapon. "The Sword of David, as once wielded by Galahad." You ask for the weapon of Galahad, the greatest knight of the Round Table... or at least one of them. The blade itself, being the sword of King David, should symbolize the victory of David against Goliath, that is to say, the victory of a lesser challenger against a champion of seemingly unreachable might.

"Alright! Here you go!" Saber quickly materializes the blade and the sheath of the weapon, tossing it towards you and giving you the opportunity to attach the sheathed sword to your belt, dematerializing the Sword of Truth for a moment to do so.

"Thanks, Saber!" You could just ask Gilgamesh for weaponry, but... you don't want to try your luck too hard when it comes to the King of Heroes, after all, he's already given you two valuable pieces of equipment, and you don't want to be too over reliant on his generosity, even if he has recognized you as a friend of some degree.

You walk over to the wall for one final recharge, which Rhongomyniad doesn't object to, and with that last action, you're ready. You manifest your sword once again, pointing it at Rhongomyniad when you've reached a close enough distance to her. "I'm ready whenever you are." You tell the goddess, before closing your eyes and focusing. This may well be the most difficult battle of your life so far, and so you'll have no choice but to...

>Rely on your instincts.
>Rely on your battle knowledge.
>Rely on your senses.
>Rely on your power.
>Rely on your skill.
>Write-in...
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>>4879799
Instincts
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>>4879800
By that I mean the maddening voices in our head
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>>4879799
>Rely on your instincts.
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>Rely on your skill.

Our skill is greater then our instinct. Eye of the mind comes from our skill instead of natural. Rely on the king of Chinese martial arts.
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>>4879799
>>Write-in...
Rely on your Autism.
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>>4879816
That's instinct
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>>4879799
I'll switch>>4879802
to Skill, if we can Boost it with Truth.
>>4879816
Anon no, we're trying to save the world not end it.
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Can we prey for guidance? We do have blessed circuits and we met him.
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>>4879833
Pretty sure it only work when we are close to beaten unconscious.
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>>4879837
Tell her to give us 15 while we knock ourselves out
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>>4879840
That would just make everyone worry we had a mental breakdown again.
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>>4879844
Just tell them this is how we talk to the one true God
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>>4879833
Should see if the sheathe has anything to offer us in a pinch as per

>>4879748

We can appraise it with either the Pure Eye or

>Appraisal of Treasure: C+
>A skill denoting Shinji's proficiency in determining the names and abilities of unknown Noble Phantasms. Is C+ situationally when Shinji is given the opportunity to properly study a Noble Phantasm. Thanks to his knowledge of literally hundreds of different Noble Phantasms, understanding Noble Phantasms is far easier for Shinji than it would be for practically any other magus, with some exceptions.

Or a combination of both to try and tap into Jacob's Limbs or some kind of Revelation like Jannu would regularly have on the battlefield to guide her with glimpses of the future, as well as ideal tactics in situations.
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>>4879844
Preying before battle is equal to be crazy?
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>>4879847
They already know we do that, but lets not stress our wives out by bashing our brains out in the middle of a duel.
>>4879849
Did the Sheathe do anything?
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Is the nun with us? Let's just pray together
>>4879854
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>>4879852
>Preying before battle is equal to be crazy?
No, talking directly to god makes us look crazy. And suicidal. As the case may be in this situation.
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>>4879856
The nun is possessed right now. And nursing a throbbing fight boner.
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>>4879858
I didn't say we'd do it during battle but before it and not out loud.

What's the limits of our sword? Can we absorb energy through the truth sword. In theory our sword should be able to do everything ever sword in history can do since it's the concept of sword.

We were able to cast through it, why not absorb?
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Who got the nun?
>>4879865
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>>4879799
>Rely on your skill.
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>>4879854
read the post I linked to
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>>4879869
The woman we are fighting right now.
>>4879867
Too late, we're already in the ring.

We just got to hit with our sword. Since she's using her Holy magic, we can probably grab hers and drain it as a last resort.

Taking from a wall is a bit different than grabbing a blade, I don't know if we absorb fast than it it would take to dissipate the blade. But it wouldn't be the first time we lost fingers.
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>>4879876
>The woman we are fighting right now.
Ciel?
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>>4879876
Thought that was gray
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>>4879799
>Rely on your skill.
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>>4879799
>Rely on our skill and ability to absorb Holy Magic with our off hand
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>>4879876
Not grabbing the sword but using our truth sword to absorb the energy. We can cast wind from our sword. So I was thinking we could use it to absorb energy.
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>Described as an "old method of hand-to-hand combat," it is a martial art that can triumph even over an archangel. Saints that master it are said to be able to beat an "angel of destruction" that leads 12,000 angels. It is due to this martial art that Martha can display the sort of behaviour she uses during her Noble Phantasm.

https://typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Jacob%27s_Limbs

Facing down a Goddess. A Goddess of Light who has Anti-Chaotic and Anti-Evil alignment mana from Torrent of Light.

>>4879748
The Sheathe of David's Sword, Memory of Blood, when judging by the name it was given in myth may allow one to connect to the lineage of David, and by extension Jacob, the creator of the Jacob's Limbs skill.
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>>4879921
I am not sure we can do it like that, pretty sure we need direct contact to absorb, our Truth should still cut through it plus our Pure Eyes showing a weak spot we can hit.
>>4879929
Can we make Truth Knuckle Dusters then, and make use of the skill?
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>>4879748
>The Sheath of the sword is called Memory of Blood.
That's Castlevania as fuck
>>4879797 WhatIs, I hope you're noting that down
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>>4879937
Rhon wants us to fight sword to sword, but I'd rather try and tap into this as the fight goes on, and rather than drawing the sword try and transition to barehanded, which is Shinji's main combat style if we can no longer keep the Truth Blade manifested.

She's shown sportsmanship, she would put away her own sword to match us. And then we hit her with the Divinities kneel to HUMANCHAD combat style, if we can tap into it through the sheathe.
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>>4879947
Wait, what if we sword and fist then, put Truth Knuckle Dusters on one, and try and get close with the sword duel, and then start draining the holy magic?
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>>4879950
Very unkino and niggerish. Don't treat Rhon like that. If you drop the honorchad swordplay before she's satisfied she can just wipe the room with a nuke.

https://youtu.be/HSoRSuX9ZRc?t=30
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>>4879799
>Rely on your instincts.
Focus... Listen...
And with your mind working fast and your body moving as it wills, you might just hear the multitude locked within your psyche, the anonymous group that even this world's YHVH fears... The power of Autism held by the unknown observers manipulating the wakame...
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>>4879950
Also, we're max MP atm, why are we draining? Shinji clearly can't absorb everything she can output, we got deleted in the dead end so clearly her output exceeds Shinji's capacity.

>>4879961
Based
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>>4879963
Draining because the sword will take energy and we need to replenish it to keep going.
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>>4879959
Fucking autistic goddess.
>>4879963
Nothing like a good leech ability in a fight, doesn't matter if we don't use it, just get it away from our opponent.
>>4879961
Hmmm.
>>4879799
Switching my vote>>4879904
to
>Rely on your instincts.
>Use our Sword of Truth till it runs out of power, then when we switch to the Sword of David, use it's ability to wrestle Rhongo into submission.
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>>4879963
Niggerman, I'm telling you this right now in the hopes you can pull through with it later in the quest. In addition to the Truth that "entire world is by Nasu and Takeuchi, and is based on two eroges alongside many other supplementary material, and everybody here except Shinji are fictional beings" being revealed to the character cast over time (like the harem thing being presented to the girls one by one), I want the "Shinji is piloted by Anonymous users in the real world via this quest on /qst/ on the internet's 4chan website, and everything is ultimately multiple layers of fictional, including Shinji and YHVH and Nyarles and Azathoth and more" reveal to happen in canon quest.

The Truth must be revealed to at least ONE character in this fucking quest, man. It would be a massive climax in and of itself, perhaps.
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I wonder if we will have time to fuck medea today.
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>>4879983
>I want the "Shinji is piloted by Anonymous users in the real world via this quest on /qst/ on the internet's 4chan website, and everything is ultimately multiple layers of fictional, including Shinji and YHVH and Nyarles and Azathoth and more" reveal to happen in canon quest.
But Shinji doesn't know this.
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>>4879983
>"Shinji is piloted by Anonymous users in the real world via this quest on /qst/ on the internet's 4chan website, and everything is ultimately multiple layers of fictional, including Shinji and YHVH and Nyarles and Azathoth and more" reveal to happen in canon quest.
Thats some Twitch plays pokemon tier bullshit, even shinji may get a little insane from that.
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>>4879973
After a full Aria the Truth sword takes very little energy to keep maintained.

>>4879977
Drawing the sword of David kills you unless you're Galachad, unless Chiyome breaks the curse on it first :DDDDDD

Gotta rely on any passive buffs it offers as a symbolic NP of David overcoming Goliath. Remember, David never drew this sword against Goliath. And the Sheathe is the power we want in a pinch anyway. Rhon won't die from a powerful attack from the sword but Shinji will die trying to use it as it is right now.

>>4879983
I tried shilling truthdump earlier but it breaks like 99% of the cast's minds beyond repair, apparently. So I'm avoiding it
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we've recited the full aria as of the knight skirmish so..


>"I am truth given form." This incantation decreases the magical energy cost of manipulating and manifesting Truth.

>His further practice with Bounded Fields have allowed him to develop a second line of the aria which will summon it, which further decreases the cost of his magecraft.

>The fifth verse "I shall guide the way." takes an incredible amount of energy to recite, but as a trade-off, makes it possible for Shinji to utilize Truth to a far less restricted degree than usual, and even enables smaller changes to be made without Gaia reverting them.

Double cost down on maintaining Truth Sword, plus the sword might not even have Gaia trying to turn it off atm, so costs nearly nothing to use as of this point.
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You guys think she'll take a dive at the end so we can free her from Manaka's control?
If we impress her enough that is.
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>>4879988
>But Shinji doesn't know this.
Then who does? Who might?

>>4879990
>Thats some Twitch plays pokemon tier bullshit
lmao, good point, I didn't think of that
>even shinji may get a little insane from that.
I suppose if its ever a thing, it'll happen much much later on in life. Too late for it to matter, some might say. I'm not sure what's the best course of action regarding that. It's serious enough as it is in context of the plot itself.

>>4879991
>breaks like 99% of the cast's minds beyond repair, apparently
Sasaki Kojiro can take it. We need absolutely everybody to be far away as possible from Shinji when/if that talk ever happens. It needs to be completely one-on-one and private as much as possible. Despite this, I figure at least a few beings that have Shinji under covert surveillance will overhear/eavesdrop, and then that will cause more problems for us to fix. But a heart-to-heart with Sasaki would be very kino and emotional. A cool segment, to be sure.
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>>4879983
We could probably tell Aleithia, she is a daughter of Truth, and is the closest being to handle it.
>>4879991
Then we don't draw it and go with my True Knuckle Duster plan.
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>>4879977
Just one activation of the spear Rhongomyniad has 600 times more magical energy that we are capable of handling at our max, and the Goddess Rhongomyniad can use it multiple times without issue, also, with enough prep time, she can destroy the planet, which in Nasuverse terms, is the same as destroying a Multiverse as it would include all of the attached timelines and everything within them as well as the texture of space.
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>>4880004
Kojiro is already aware of himself being someone that didnt exist, he is the best bet for someone not going completely insane from that information.
And maybe nursery rhyme? She is a book of stories.
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Has qm called?
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>>4880041
Not yet.
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>>4880012
Who said anything about tanking the blast. The sword would Sao energy every time we cross blades so we could keep up the pace that the fight is going to drain energy at.
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>>4879996
It costs nothing? Ok NVM on using absorb. I thought we were using that armor, reinforcement to keep up.
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This vote, depending on the outcome, will upgrade one of your skills or grant you a new one.
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>>4880103
Nice.
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Do skill let's upgrade Chinese martial arts. Li will be proud.
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>>4879797
>Rely on your instincts.
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>>4879799
>Rely on your power.

swiggity swooty let's Truth the spear booby
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All of these could be interpreted in various ways...
>>Rely on your instincts.
On on hand, we don’t have Instinct, and following our impulse has gotten us into problems or outright killed us before. On the other hand, against the goddess of the spear with her power and technique it might be the best bet, and a lot of successful plans we carried out also ended up having whimsical component; it also embodies ability to adapt at the unexpected.
>>Rely on your battle knowledge.
If meta knowledge falls under this, we’ve been relying on that heavily, and it also always factored in ways we dealt with problems or picked out concepts for people. But we’ve also been bitten in ass by making assumptions without checking.
>>Rely on your senses.
This presumably includes the upgraded eye, which is a significant boost, but is it right to rely on the gimmick in a fight that is intended as means of getting a measure of us?
>>Rely on your power.
We have unique power with potential beyond anything on the face of earth, but our form is still that of a mortal human with augments standing against the spear goddess. Unless we limit break somehow, she has us beat here. On the other hand, she did specifically ask to get taste of the Truth blade so giving it all might be the way to satisfy her most.
>>Rely on your skill.
We’ve just displayed martial skill so this would seem viable, but again we stand against goddess that is also a weapon.

I dunno desu, I’m inclined towards knowledge, but that doesn’t even sound right to me for some reason. Power seems like an alright way to go all out and lose. I’d guess maybe some dramatic option would represent better what this fight is about, like placing trust in our faith or our cause, of safety and smiles of all our loved ones and friends. Letting things like Alitheia’s smile be a source of comfort in the battle. Maybe this falls into instinct, maybe it doesn’t.
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>>4880413
So far with what you said, Instinct or Skill seems the best bet, baring my write in, or if Nigger makes a more elaborate, or at least, more eloquent plan, seems better with Instinct. We did just demonstrate it by shoving our arm into her holy walls and draining it for a recharge. And we are running full Aria right now, might have a bonus?
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>>4880419
I’m also leery of picking skill because swordplay is not even our specialization. But then again she asked specifically to fight the Truth sword and I’d rather not deny her this even if we were to pull a Jacob like this. Which I’d say we still might even in swordplay if she actually wants us to win.


>>4879799

Anyway I think I’ll go with the path of sappy write in.
>rely on the love and support of those counting on you, those you came to give better endings to, to give you strength and resolve. You cannot let them down!
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>>4880440
>>4880103
remember this is a skill unlock update so consider that for your write in too fren.

Really good analysis on the options btw.
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>>4880442
>remember this is a skill unlock update so consider that for your write in too fren.
I noticed, but I think the feeling of rightness I have for the sappy line is enough to me to go with it regardless if OP decides it’s appropriate to reflect in skill adjustments or not.
But you’re right, mechanically there’s likely better options.
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>>4880451
>>4880442
I am just trying to think what it could mean for Skill update, and everything in that statement to me points to going on instinct. Voting for Skill probably helps us unlock it via the Sheath of David's special ability, or maybe fighting all out with our truth sword and cutting her own manifested blade apart. But that is also possibly what it means to pick the rely on Power option.
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Did we make use of Mogan's skill copy yet?
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>>4880466
I...don't think so, but I'm pretty sure it's too late for us to make use of it right now.
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>>4880470
I know, just to keep in mind.
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>>4880466
Not yet, and it only works on Servants too. So can't help Shinji.
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>>4880461
>I am just trying to think what it could mean for Skill update
This is what I’m worried about: picking the romantic option for mechanical reasons is likely to cheapen it. I don’t recommend anyone to support it if they would be unhappy with getting a sappy scene but no powerup.
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>>4880473
I can not understand what your talking about when you say sappy scene.
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>>4880477
Well that’s up to how QM would handle it, but...
I imagine it would lead to a moment of introspection where Shinji recollects himself and reminds himself his reasons to fight: saving Sakura, Medea, Satsuki and others from their fates, keeping his children safe and happy etc, then entering the fight with strengthened resolve to deliver on his commitments.
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>>4880480
But there isn't a romantic option in this fight.
I have no clue where your getting this moment from.
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>>4880480
And perhaps during fight using momentary sweet flashbacks as motivation to keep him going even if being pummeled by overwhelming force where normally he would’ve given up.

Though again this sort of thing is not really something one does when calculating the outcome, rather as a flame to keep you going.
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>>4880489
Again, we haven't even started the fight, where are you getting this from?
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>>4880490
We are deciding currently what Shinji will rely on as the approach which would allow him to prevail in this confrontation. I think it should be the Heart, soul, our reason to having gotten involved in the first place.

I suppose argument could be made it falls under instinct but I felt it specific enough it warrants being singled out.
Anyway I think I’ve expended enough thread space on explaining myself for now so I recede.
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>>4880503
OH, because that was never brought up and I thought you were high posting for the last hour, and rambling about some shit in a haze.
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>>4880413
Solid analysis anon, I agree with the way you see the options, though not necessarily with the conclusion you came to. I would have almost certainly agreed if not for WhatIs's clarification that this unlocks a skill. I might still do, because I like your sappy line and it IS why Shinji has been doing everything. But I'll need to think some more.
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>>4879865
>The nun is possessed right now. And nursing a throbbing fight boner.
>>4879876
>The woman we are fighting right now.
Saiyanigger, you previously confused Gray with Monica. Now you're confusing her with Rin Kotomine. You apparently think all pseudoservants in the quest are one and the same, so let me explain real quick:

>Tesla is possessing Monica
Tesla is a serbian incel inventor autist. Monica is the woman who's been helping us since the beginning, who, among many other things, drove away grandpa when we saved Sakura and demolished the old Matou mansion.
>Morrigan is possessing Bazett
Morrigan is a triple schizo Irish goddes who wanted Cu in life and got rejected by him. Bazett is a Clocktower Enforcer and the Master of Cu. We didn't interact with her much, but she was one of the very few people to ever get suspicious of our metaknowledge before Manaka captured her.
>Ishtar is possessing Rin Kotomine
Ishtar is a Babylonian whore of a goddess, and Gil hates her. Rin Kotomine is the Rin that was raised by Kirei as a nun.
>Ereshkigal is possessing broken Rin
Ereshkigal is the Babylonian goddess of the underworld, and a much, much nicer person than her bitch of a sister. Broken Rin broke when Shirou Mind of Steeled in HF instead of choosing to save Sakura, and she killed her sister instead of hugging her when she needed it the most.
>Rhongomyniad is possessing Gray
Rhongomyniad is the woman we are fighting right now, the spirit of King Arthur's Lance and much more than just that. Gray is Waver's assistant. She can wield Rhongomyniad and looks the same as Saber as the result of Morgan's 1500-year old plan to resurrect Artoria. Rhongomyniad possessed her when Manaka broke Add, a sentient artifact built by Morgan to house Rhongomyniad and allow it to be wielded.
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>>4879799
>Open your eyes to face Rhon with the Eye of Truth fully activated to read the battle, dial it down where needed to preserve energy.
>Project your Truth Armour and maintain it until it becomes too much of a burden on your mana reserves
>Rely on your instincts

>If in a pinch, combine the activated Eye with Appraisal of Treasure to see if you can bring forth a miracle from the Scabbard of the Sword, Memory of Blood.
>Maintain the use of the Sword of Truth as your primary weapon for as long as your magical energy reserves will allow.
>Trust your instincts to tell you when to dismiss the Eye, Armour and Sword of Truth if needed.

Memory of Blood autism theories here:
>>4879748
>>4879929

With lines 1 and 2 of the aria already spoken, all Truth is double cost down, and with line 5, Gaia exerts way less pressure on Truth Constructs such as the Sword and Armour allowing them to be maintained for a more prolonged period of time.
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Honestly, NTRanon's LOVECHAD write in was also really kino. And if not for the fact Shinji is still detangling himself from retardation to do with the harem and how he properly feels about a fair few women I would be all for it.

Unfortunately, right now he has a lot of lust, and not as much love.
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>>4879799
Support >>4880538

>>4880540
You are right. Once again, you are right. We almost made Sakura cry today for the equality meme, and we still haven't untangled that mess. Last time this was discussed, people still wanted to coom in all pokemon. Conceptual Love Skill is kino, but this is not the right time.
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>>4879799
Supporting >>4880538
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gimme a tally?
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>>4880591
Sure thing

>>4879799

>Rely on your instincts.
>>4879800
>>4879961

>Rely on your instincts.
>Use our Sword of Truth till it runs out of power, then when we switch to the Sword of David, use it's ability to wrestle Rhongo into submission.
>>4879977

>Open your eyes to face Rhon with the Eye of Truth fully activated to read the battle, dial it down where needed to preserve energy.
>Project your Truth Armour and maintain it until it becomes too much of a burden on your mana reserves
>Rely on your instincts
>If in a pinch, combine the activated Eye with Appraisal of Treasure to see if you can bring forth a miracle from the Scabbard of the Sword, Memory of Blood.
>Maintain the use of the Sword of Truth as your primary weapon for as long as your magical energy reserves will allow.
>Trust your instincts to tell you when to dismiss the Eye, Armour and Sword of Truth if needed.
>>4880538
>>4880541
>>4880582


>Rely on your skill.
>>4879872
>>4879897

>Rely on your power.
>>4880272

>rely on the love and support of those counting on you, those you came to give better endings to, to give you strength and resolve. You cannot let them down!
>>4880440


>Rely on your Autism.
>>4879816

> Rely on your Dick
>>4880006
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Focus. This is what you need right now. Focus. You take deep breaths as you envision how this battle could end up going in your head, Rhongomyniad is far more powerful than you are, that much is true. Even with all of the equipment increasing your strength and the reinforcement being granted to you by Medea, at the end of the day, it was two pieces of divine equipment and the reinforcement of divine magecraft against a full goddess. Rhongomyniad... wasn't simply a degraded Divine Spirit, but an actual Goddess, so while not as powerful as Orochi in terms of raw power upon his ascension into a false Beast, her power is far more volatile and destructive, and hell, you wouldn't want to face Orochi in single combat either, but... well, she clearly expects great things from you.

You open your eyes in order to look at the Goddess, flooding the Eye of Truth with magical energy as you activate it to your maximum, staring at the Goddess as she looks at you with caution. Despite her power, it seems she really does only wish to fight a battle of skill with you. You're thankful for that too, if she went all out, then your only chance at victory would be for an all-out assault with everyone before she retaliated with her own attack. As you keep the Sword of Truth pointed at the Goddess, with the Sword of David still sheathed at your side, you speak. "For the sake of the world, and for all that I love, I won't fall to you, Goddess." You keep your words short as you project your armor around yourself, the thin layer of golden energy would serve to protect you from even the greatest of blows, so long as you had the magical energy to keep it active.

Your battle experience was too limited to be relied on here, especially against Rhongomyniad as she was now, so you decided that the only way forward was... perhaps somewhat quite foolishly, to rely on your natural instincts. To do battle with your enemy while relying on your instincts to guide you. You had slain a hundred men in battle, and though you might've had more in your arsenal than your opponents, that doesn't change that in some ways, you had already started to rely on your instincts more than your learned combat experience. Fighting how your body naturally wished you to, and your combat experience was helpful in refining just how you wielded that natural instinct for battle that had been awoken within you from slaying Rhongomyniad's small army, allowing you to wield your awakening instincts with the precision of a surgeon and a scalpel.

Status Updated!
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With your body relying on your instincts, you charge at the Goddess, clashing with her blade as you do. You dismiss the Eye of Truth, no longer needing to rely on it, having already managed to use it to assess all that you currently can from her, and not wanting to waste any more magical energy keeping it active. You clash for a few seconds, her strength is overwhelming, but it's clear that she's not yet giving it her all. "Yes! Yes!" She grins down at you, being just slightly taller than you, and forces more power into the clash. The Sword of Truth and her own Sword of Holy Light clashing with one another rather than cleaving through one another. Hmm, you were half expecting the Sword of Truth to cleave through her own blade. Could it be a result of the conceptual similarities shared between the two manifested weapons? You leap away from the woman as she breaks your guard, and she starts walking towards you. "This... This is what I've wanted for so long! I finally understand! Battle!" She suddenly launches herself towards you, and just in the nick of time, you raise your blade and manage to block her strike, though the force is great enough to smash the tiles underneath you as you brace from the attack.

"You're really getting into this, aren't you!?" You say with a smile as you dash to the side, avoiding her next strike and nearly landing the first attack in the battle on the Goddess, who pivoted her body to the side just in time to avoid being hit by your blade, before coming back with her own slash, which you in turn duck underneath. You take her missed attack as an opportunity to roll away from the Goddess and try to slash at her ankles as you get some distance from her. This attack doesn't take either, as the Goddess leaps above the attempted strike, and you get back to you feet before rushing back at the Goddess, bringing your sword down in an overhead slash, which she blocks with some difficulty before you rapidly bring your sword back up and attempt another slash at the woman. You stay on the offensive for some time, your level of skill enough to at least remove the opportunity from actually managing to make any attacks, remaining purely on the defense... though that alone won't be enough to win this battle. In a war of attrition, the Goddess Rhongomyniad would never lose to you, and while you've managed to stalemate her thus far in the beginning stages of the battle, you can tell she's not really started to try yet either. You're already being reinforced by Medea, but... could you do something that would grant you the additional power you need to claim victory?
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>Try to reinforce yourself further with your own magecraft.
>Use your runes on your own body to push beyond your limits.
>Cause a distraction for Rhongomyniad in order to ask one of your allies for something to empower you. (Who?)
>Just keep battling, seeing as you're so equally matched in skill, declare who draws first blood shall be victorious.
>Draw the Sword of David.
>Try to use the Sheathe of the Sword of David to create a miracle.
>Write-in...
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>Instinct: C+ [WisUp!]
>As a result of immersing himself in a bloody battle with a hundred magical knights, and then accepting to battle even a Goddess, Shinji has finally unlocked his body's natural instinct to fight. Born out of following his body's natural instincts, this skill allows for Shinji to almost always take the best personal course of action for himself in a fight. The plus modifier is applied for situations where Shinji is given the opportunity to analyze his opponent's fighting styles before combat, and allows for the rapid combat adjustment even against previously unknown Noble Phantasms and secret techniques, if he is able to calmly assess a situation, the penalties inflicted by visual or audible obstructions are negated to a large degree.
Finally.
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You have an hour and a half to decide on what you want to do.
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>>4880666
That's nice. We finally have the good combat skill. Will come in handy, that's for sure.
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>>4880659

well desu I'd say just keep going until she wears us down would be good enough.

Using underhanded tricks like outside intervention would probably go against spirit of the fight and just piss her off again, dropping the sword would disappoint her.

Maybe we could try and grasp her blade to recover/drain its energy? It's going to hurt thought and is most likely exclusive with first blood.

Or we could try to use some burst buff (reinforcement, rune, idk) to disarm her somehow, or get her into a grapple for 10 secs...
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>>4880689
Outside interference is to be avoided yeah. Drawing the Sword of David will kill us. Anyone who draws it but Galahad will die, as the nigger said in >>4879991. Grasping the blade will make us explode, >>4880012 is right about the energies involved. It could even tank Truth, and Truth cut through everything else like a wet tissue paper. Can't disarm her either, she's projecting her sword with her energy just like we are doing. She uses a Lance normally. Unless you mean cutting off her arm, which, eh, I wouldn't really like to do.

I think our best bet is using runes right now and keeping the sheathe as reserve if we need a miracle. First blood isn't necessary, the duel isn't to the death anyway and we draw runes with our blood.

Maybe we could manifest a second blade of Truth and try to catch her by surprise with it?
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>>4877222
>>4880705
Karna's. He's a based battle autist and his armor does not restrict movement.
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>>4880705
It's a thin layer of golden energy that surrounds your entire body with the exception of your head.
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>>4880701

Modifying the sword blade like we did with the bolts might allow it to cut through her own light blade, maybe something like 'void'. Not sure if that is the best way to win even if it would work.

Truth gauntlet or some funnily shaped truth shield or other offhand weapon might help with disarmanent attempt.
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I would think eye of the mind and instinct becomes eye of the mind (false).
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>>4880712
she'll just sweep us off our feet then.
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>Just keep battling, seeing as you're so equally matched in skill, declare who draws first blood shall be victorious.

It's a battle of skill so I don't want to piss off a goddess again.
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>>4880715
You would think wrong.
EotM (False) is generally inferior to Instinct. EotM is just a Sixth Sense for combat, whereas high rank Instinct allows for limited precognition.
>>4880712
>>4880717
You're not a Roma LARPer so why would you do this?
There's no point doing this at all as it would both make your defenses less effective and more costly, and it certainly won't impress Nero to see you dress up as a common foot soldier.
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>>4880659
>Use your runes on your own body to push beyond your limits.
>Stay on the defensive and try to get Rhongo to abandon cautiousness and focus on attacking
>Go on the offensive if Rhongo starts making mistakes
>If thing go bad try to use the Sheathe of the Sword of David to create a miracle.

Lets see how good she is in controlling her new body and its impulses.
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>>4880713
Yeah, I wouldn't want to mess with the blade. We insta-lose if something goes wrong.

We cannot disarm her. Her "sword" is merely energy projected from her hand, shaped like a sword. Same as our own Sword of Truth. There's no solid object to be removed there.

>>4880726
Yeah, your approach is right. Reinforce, try to lure her to make a mistake, use our new Instincts to capitalize. How about adding manifesting a second weapon to catch her by surprise? A lance maybe, to show her that we can handle a lance too? Ideal outcome here is her deciding she wants to become our weapon, after all.
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>>4880713
...actually if the sword is not physical at all, disarmanent really should be impossible, unless clashing with modified truth blade would cause it to fizzle out somehow.
Maybe against a blade of light the idea of Reflection would work? Though we already did break an expensive mirror today.

Maybe a chain or a lasso to attempt to restrain her movement? Or landscaping shenanigans again, though she would've been prepared for that, after seeing it and with instinct better still.
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>>4880674
You've not really voted much so far...
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>>4880730
Reflection would probably cause the light to be redirected and possibly kill someone in the room. As you said, we already broke a mirror. Let's not be reckless with this.

She was able to dodge Gil's and Enkidu's chains, and they are meant to be restraining gods. I don't think we can restrain her.
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>>4880733
Still discussing, be patient.
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>>4880729
>How about adding manifesting a second weapon to catch her by surprise? A lance maybe, to show her that we can handle a lance too? Ideal outcome here is her deciding she wants to become our weapon, after all.
We can try to throw her off her game by switching forms of Bajiquan in the middle of the fight or add in some Killing Arts if she shows opening.
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Is she another 100/100?
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>>4880741
Should be fine if she consents to reverting to being a spear to be fondled by us in combat situations.
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>>4880659
>Use your runes on your own body to push beyond your limits.
>Stay on the defensive and try to get Rhongo to abandon cautiousness and focus on attacking
>Go on the offensive if Rhongo starts making mistakes.
>Use your new Instincts to decide how to best capitalize on that mistake, whether it is switching forms of Bajiquan, some Killing Arts, or manifesting an off-hand Lance of Truth for the deciding attack.
>If thing go bad try to use the Sheathe of the Sword of David to create a miracle.

>>4880740
Sure. That should cover everything, and Instincts means Shinji will make the best choice.
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>>4880659
Switching from >>4880726 to >>4880746
Time for some Spear Bajiquan time.
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>>4880659
>>4880746
+1.

This seems to cover everything.
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>>4880746
Actually, what are conditions for victory here? Because if we somehow do succeed on getting past her guard I'd rather not cut perforate Gray lethally, if we can't somehow end it in grapple.
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>>4880761
This is definitely not a fight to the death. We don't want to kill Gray, and Rhongo doesn't want to kill us. I imagine it's unofficially first blood, and a solid hit will get her to end it. Shinji knows that, and he even has his Instincts to help him use the exact amount of force needed and not one bit more.
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>>4880764
well I hope you're right about instinct here

>>4880659
alright let's go with this >>4880746
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>>4880674

>Use your runes on your own body to push beyond your limits.
>Stay on the defensive and try to get Rhongo to abandon cautiousness and focus on attacking
>Go on the offensive if Rhongo starts making mistakes.
>Use your new Instincts to decide how to best capitalize on that mistake, whether it is switching forms of Bajiquan, some Killing Arts, or manifesting an off-hand Lance of Truth for the deciding attack.
>If thing go bad try to use the Sheathe of the Sword of David to create a miracle.

This wins.
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>>4880674
Full tally

>>4880659

>Try to reinforce yourself further with your own magecraft.
>>4880690

>Revised combat autism.
>>4880746
>>4880752
>>4880756
>>4880767
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Rhongo really has a battle fetish, goddamn, i wonder how wet she is right now.
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>>4880745
Just remember, if you wield Rhongobongo, you get giant titties.
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>>4880816
Excellent, we can give even Sakura breast envy if we equip the Wet Spear. There is no way this could be considered a bad idea, ever.
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>>4880701
...huh.

If we somehow set up a situation in which Rhongobongo draws the Sword of David, what happens?

Your Gray a-splode?
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Isn't this a sword fight not a lance or fist fight? Wasn't the whole point that she wishes to fight against the sword of truth?

This is a bad idea.
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>>4881065
She wanted to fight the blade of truth, not some other weapon. I don't think she'd be too angry if we changed it into a spear of truth or a knuckles of truth as long as we're still using the truth-y weapon.
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Test.
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>>4881087
Whats up?
>>4881065
this>>4881072
Long as she's getting pounded with Truth, she likely won't care.
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Interlude Start

The battle began, and the boy did battle with the Goddess without flinching for a single moment. Arturia had many conflicting thoughts when she looked upon that Goddess, the woman who shared her face, though with a mane of silver hair and... a frustratingly more developed body. Though Arturia had gotten accustomed to women sharing her face, especially as of recently, it was still uncomfortable to look upon this woman in particular. Unlike with Nero, Obeithion, Morgan, or even Mordred. There was something about this woman... Even though her hair was a different color, and her body had clearly developed in a completely different way to her own, Arturia knew that this woman was a potential outcome for herself. The Goddess Rhongomyniad. The divinity contained within her lance, granted autonomy and control over a body identical to her own... well, mostly identical. The girl who was hosting the goddess... even now, Arturia could feel a link to her. Unlike with Morgan's original attempt at creating a copy of her through Mordred, who... was an imperfect copy, though that's to be expected, Morgan never created Mordred to be a perfect copy of her in the first place. She created Mordred to be a tool to depose her, and while she had accepted Mordred's place as her true heir, as well as... partially accepting Morgan for her apparent remorse towards the actions she took in the past, Mordred wasn't supposed to be a perfect copy of her... but the girl... the body of the girl being used by the Goddess Rhongomyniad, that girl was created to be a truly perfect copy of her, at least in body.

After a few brief clashes, with Shinji doing far greater than Arturia had thought he would do, she noticed that at this current rate, the boy would never win. Shirou's friend would fall in battle to the Goddess Rhongomyniad, or at least would be defeated by her. Arturia couldn't exactly say she knew what was going through the mind of that Goddess, after all, she may have once wielded the spear Rhongomyniad for short periods of time, there were many reasons as to why she refused to wield the spear. Not least of those reasons being the divinity within the weapon having a mind of its own. Though it was her unwillingness to rely upon the spear in life which left Arturia so uncertain as to the wishes of the weapon. Was it an enemy, as it appeared to be? Or was it an ally? It had attacked them all without warning, but then it had agreed to the terms of a truce, and then formulated a means to resolve the conflict without a bloody battle ensuing. Arturia didn't know just how much that the spear served Manaka, but it was clear to her that it was much too prideful to allow itself to be used as a weapon to destroy the world. No, while Arturia didn't know the spear as well as she probably should. Well, she did know one thing about it...
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That spear was a weapon that longed to save the world. It had even accepted upon itself the same restraints of the Round Table that had been applied to Excalibur in order to seal its true world-shaking strength. Of course, the Goddess being the lance itself, meant that those restraints that were applied to it are more... suggestions, than anything else. They were lucky that the Goddess seemed to be so playful and prone to indulging herself, otherwise, all but a few of Shinji's allies would likely already be dead, and as much as she hated to admit it, unless she managed to shield herself and Shirou with Avalon in time, they too would've been included in that death toll.

"Not bad, Rhongo!" Shinji had started calling the spear by a nickname, and Arturia had noticed that whenever he did, the edges of the Goddess' mouth twitched upwards a little, almost as if suppressing a smile. She was... suppressing her emotions, Arturia was all too familiar with such a thing, and it seemed that despite her nature as a Goddess, this woman very much still felt the capacity for such things. That was by itself a good sign, that his adversary was one that despite her nature, wasn't one devoid of emotions of her own. It was after all possible to love humanity, but without the capacity to truly feel emotions, that love would give way to a monster who would bring only destruction. "You're every bit as strong as I thought you'd be when I started fighting you!" Shinji complimented the goddess as he rubbed one of his arms with a free hand, seemingly rubbing an aching limb, but... Saber wasn't fooled. She saw quite clearly just what he was up to, using a trail of golden energy in order to manifest runes on his own body as he pretended to recover while Rhongomyniad merely looked at him.

"Of course, I am a Goddess." The annoyingly well-endowed woman pointed her blade at Shinji once more. "I do hope that you aren't about to think about giving up, I've only just started warming up." Despite the apparent arrogance in her voice, Saber knew that the woman wasn't lying. The two of the combatants had barely revealed any of their true strength, but... that was an aspect of their duel in and of itself. Sword and Skill, that was all. While Saber did think it could've possibly been construed as a breaking of such terms when she spied the boy tracing runes onto his own clothing, she ignored it. After all, it was his power, and he was merely using it to supplement his own physical abilities anyway.
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"Give up?" Shinji smirked at the Goddess. "Not likely." He dashed back towards her, faster than before, the runes on his clothing activating even through that magical sheen of golden light serving as his armor. He's clearly not messing around anymore, and Saber felt that even she would have trouble with defeating him as he was right now. Though the boy was drawing upon an incredible amount of borrowed power, he was still immensely powerful. He had been granted a belt to double his strength by Gilgamesh, a mantle to increase his physical abilities a great deal by Alcides, his body had been reinforced by magic from the Age of Gods by Medea, she had lent him the Sword of David from her arsenal, and now he was wielding Rune Magecraft to grant him a greater chance at overcoming a true goddess.

The boy clashed with the goddess a few more times, and this time he wasn't losing out even to her superior strength, though his runes were clearly supposed to bridge the distance, he was still physically vastly inferior to the Goddess, but that... that was enough. With his borrowed power and his now superior skill, he was managing to match the Goddess, coaxing her into attacking herself. Ever since the fight began, Saber noticed that the boy had become a far more dangerous combatant. Where before he hesitated sometimes, and missed opportunities and even took a grievous wound against the knights that Rhongomyniad had summoned, his skill had become far more refined... no, it wasn't his skill that had become more refined, it was almost as if he was listening to his body's instincts and fighting almost without thinking, but... the focus in his eyes showed that wasn't the case. It was almost as if he was combining a tactical mind that was analyzing the battle with a natural inclination to do battle allowing him to perfectly match Rhongomyniad's superior power. It was a true match of power vs skill, though only because on either side, not one eclipsed the other by a tremendous degree. While Rhongomyniad could still have won the battle at any moment she wished by calling upon her full power, it was obvious that she was enjoying herself too much to cheat herself out of a sword fight... which Saber felt was odd. Why would Rhongomyniad, a spirit of divinity that has inhabited a lance for millennia choose to wield a blade against him? Was it simply inspired by his own use of a similar looking blade?
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"Come on, Rhongo! You're meant to be a Goddess, aren't you? What sort of Goddess remains on the defensive against an inferior opponent? You're not a Goddess of Hesitation, are you?" Shinji taunted the Goddess as he fought her, trying to get the woman to switch away from fighting defensively in order to exploit whatever openings she might have in an offensive form. It was clear he had already given up winning the fight by chipping away at her when she wasn't actually making any sort of mistakes as she did, no... he was doing just what Saber had realized was the only way to defeat Rhongomyniad. Coaxing her into attacking, causing her to lose her usual calm and make mistakes. It was all a very simple strategy, honestly, but a necessary one, and one that Rhongomyniad of course ended up falling for. Saber frowned as Rhongomyniad suddenly stepped forwards again and slashed with her blade, which Shinji narrowly ducked away from before parrying a thrust from the goddess.

"If you wish for me to crush you, then on your head be it!" The Goddess Rhongomyniad suddenly picked up her pace as she laid attack after attack upon the blue haired boy, and he was clearly struggling to keep up with her savage offensive. "Would you like me to hold back a little?" The woman asked of her opponent as he desperately fended off all of her earth-shaking attacks with a strained expression. Saber felt conflicted at seeing the Goddess start to turn the tides completely on her fiance's friend and daughter's advisor.

He was fending off attack after attack of savage blow, as the Goddess hammered upon his blade with her own shimmering sword of light. Over and over again did he just barely manage to fend off an attack in time with his blade, and despite everything, he looked closer to defeat now than when he had a sword impaled through his chest. For once, he no longer had a smile on his face as he battled the Goddess, and instead had an expression of intense focus.
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Though as he kept dodging blows and deflecting the attacks of his adversary, Saber realized something. With every attack deflected or blocked, he blocked the next one or avoided it with greater ease. His arms must've been screaming in pain as he held back the strikes of the Goddess, but it was all for a good purpose. As he was battling her, he was learning her own style of battle, and before long, when a slash with her golden sword of light threatened him once again, he didn't block it. He didn't deflect it. No, he completely sidestepped the attack, trying to thrust his blade up at the Goddess as he did. The Goddess was rapidly forced to try to defend herself from the strike, barely managing to block his counter attack in time, but it wasn't quite enough. He followed his counter-attack up with another blow that the Goddess barely managed to block, and another, and in the blink of an eye, the tide of the battle had shifted to Shinji's favor entirely, the talented boy not leaving any opportunity for Rhongomyniad to switch back to an offensive approach as he rained attacks down on her, he moved like a storm of death. His golden blade whirling about all the while, trying to find a weakness in Rhongomyniad's weak guard. He wasn't giving her any of the time she needed to properly adjust herself into a form that could block his attacks properly.

Shinji remained quiet as he kept up his assault on the goddess, until finally, the Goddess had clearly had enough of being put on the back foot. Her body shone with a holy light for a moment, and her speed seemed to double in that single instant as she brought down her sword on Shinji's own blade with such force that the weapon was knocked from the hand of the boy entirely, but at the same time, the blade Rhongomyniad wielded carried her downwards with the momentum of the own strike, causing her to smash into the floor! It's at that exact moment that Shinji, not yet defeated, manifested a spear of golden light in his hand, and...!

Interlude out.

You dashed towards the Goddess, the Spear of Truth in your hand pointed directly at the stunned and currently defenseless Rhongomyniad. This is it! This will be the decisive blow!

>Use the Spear of Truth to land a lethal blow. You can heal her.
>Use the Spear of Truth to land a crippling blow. That should make her yield.
>Use the Spear of Truth to lightly cut her, and pronounce first blood as your victory.
>Use the Spear of Truth to cut off a lock of her hair. Proclaim victory upon doing so.
>Just tap her with the side of the the Spear of Truth.
>Write-in...
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>>4881120
>>Write-in...
Bonk her on top of the head with the Spear of Truth.
"That's my win, Rhongobongo."
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>>4881120
>Lightly bonk her on the head
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Nice to see our battles from the perspective of others. I'd like to see more of it in the future.
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>>4881138
Support
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>>4881120
>>4881138
+1.

That was a lot of fun qm.
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>>4881120
>Use the Spear of Truth to PRETEND to go for a lethal blow
>Make it a light tap instead
>Proclaim your victory
>Now that you have proven yourself, ask her to leave Gray and become your weapon
>If she cannot, offer a hand to pull her up. Use this as a pretext for the required 10 seconds.
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>>4881120
>>4881138
Support.
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>>4881138
I love our new spear wife
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>>4881120
>>4881175
+1
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Please don't meme vote. It's a serious situation.
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Still need to save Gray so
>>4881120
Supporting >>4881175
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>>4881206
Don't be a fag
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>>4881206
Then vote
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I think bonking her on the head is better. So can't the bonk vote be edited to included
>Now that you have proven yourself, ask her to leave Gray and become your weapon
>If she cannot, offer a hand to pull her up. Use this as a pretext for the required 10 seconds.
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>>4881222
I don't mind changing to:
>Bonk her on top of the head with the Spear of Truth.
>"That's my win, Rhongobongo."
>>Now that you have proven yourself, ask her to leave Gray and become your weapon
>>If she cannot, offer a hand to pull her up. Use this as a pretext for the required 10 seconds.
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>>4881222
Write it up then, I'll change my vote
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>>4881120
I will support this >>4881224
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>>4881224
Support
>>4881120
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>>4881120
Just to make it official, changing >>4881138
to >>4881224
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>>4881120
changing >>4881145
to
>>4881224
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>>4881120
Changing from >>4881138
to >>4881224
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>>4881120

this >>4881175

although I'm not sure why you'd pretend rather than going for the tap right away
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>>4881224
So, just a question anon: Do you think she'll appreciate being disrespected and insulted like this?

>>4881247
I just thought it'd be cooler.
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>>4881120
Changing>>4881179
To >>4881224
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>>4881249
well I hope she doesn't take the maneuver as attempt to kill her for real and blast us to protect the host.
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>>4881249
How is it offensive?
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>>4881256
>>4881257
The problem is with bonking her on the head and calling her with an insulting nickname. That's very disrespectful. Be gracious in victory, anons.
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>>4881256
He's sperging out about calling her Rhongobongo, as if it's comparable to calling for a truce then walking over and shitting on her shoes.
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>>4881249
>>4881259
I see you're trying to justify the "autist" part of your name.
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>>4881261
I mean, I wouldn't have suggested to call her that before this. But after the whole battle and her lightening up, I think it'll be fine.
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>>4881260
>>4881261
So you have forgotten already what happened the last time we disrespected her?
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>>4881266
Eh and we prevailed.
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>>4881269
Batman, it was a dead end. Disrespecting her lead to a dead end. We prevailed after we were respectful to her.

>>4881272
Anon, taunting someone mid battle is very, very different from taunting them after you win. One is a tactic, the other is just being a dick.
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>>4881277
Well make a better write up.
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>>4881277
Didn't you say you owed me a (you)? Relax man, calling her a dumb nickname won't dead end us. If it does, I'll totally own up to it.
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Calling in...
idk, eventually.
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>>4881294
No.
I don't think so.
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>>4881300
call it fag
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>>4881301
Based
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>>4881301
Nah. Busy.
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>>4881312
I'm busy nullifying your vote, faggot.
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>>4881301
>>4881312
Based
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>>4881315
That's not cool
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>>4881325
He does it for free
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>>4881301
>>4881312
>>4881303
Stop being fags and let WhatIs do his shit. He already updates at like four times the speed of any other quest.
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>>4881120

I think I'll switch from >>4881247
to this:

>Just tap her with the side of the the Spear of Truth.
>"I believe this is enough fighting between us."
>>>Now that you have proven yourself, ask her to leave Gray and become your weapon
>>>If she cannot, offer a hand to pull her up. Use this as a pretext for the required 10 seconds.

I'm really not comfortable with pretend lethal strike. In a way it could be worse than the meme vote.
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>>4881336
Just excited because this has been the best update in a bit.
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>>4881120
I'll support this>>4881342
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>>4881120
>>4881342
Based Counter Guardian of NTR.

DO not insult my spear wife you fucking niggers
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>>4881342
Can't we just Bonk her?
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>>4881120
Switch >>4881175 to >>4881342
I still don't see a problem with pretending the lethal blow, but I prefer this much, much more than that insulting meme vote.
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>>4881372
You're the nigger though.
And I thought you were based too. What a dissapointment.
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>>4881374
We will
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>>4881377
Pretending could cause problems of she takes it seriously enough. Either her or someone else with enough power to entervine.

It's like setting off firecrackers next to a soldier.
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>>4881385
I want to channel all the disappointed dad saying get off my lawn energy possible.
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>>4881386
Yeah Big Mac. I switched. Now, are you going to vote?
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The Lion King, a Goddess who is a being of immense Pride lowers herself to the level of a human to fight him fairly.

And then said human insults her with a cringe nickname from leddit.

ISHYGDDT
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>>4881400
You're cringe
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>>4881120
>>4881342
suspporting
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>>4881120
From >>4881207 to >>4881342
>>4881400
Suzuka failed at her job really hard here. Twice already.
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>>4881120
>>4881204
>>4881342
Switch. Retards
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>>4881374
no, but maybe we will be bonking others with her if she likes us enough to spend time being handled by us.
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>>4881412
I'd rather not hit on her any more than necessary, Fox Wife will get mad we grabbed a...wife? By the hilt, after breaking her mirror by accident. And she ruined the lawn.
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I have and will continue to hate cringe.

https://youtu.be/LvHIxzoUmFo?t=1151
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>>4881420
unbased
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Calling in 10 minutes.
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>>4881120
I will switch from >>4881231 to >>4881342
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>>4881342
+1
If you act smug after winning against an opponent holding back you deserve to get your anal cavity gaped so bad you lose all control of your rectum forever.
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>>4881426


>>4881342
>>4881359
>>4881372
>>4881377
>>4881402
>>4881408
>>4881409
>>4881433


>>4881224
>>4881236
>>4881241
>>4881245
>>4881246
>>4881250
>>4881442


>Just tap her with the side of the the Spear of Truth.
>"I believe this is enough fighting between us."
>>>Now that you have proven yourself, ask her to leave Gray and become your weapon
>>>If she cannot, offer a hand to pull her up. Use this as a pretext for the required 10 seconds.

Wins.
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>>4881294
>>4881301
>>4881303
>>4881312
Please go and stay go. Forever. Honestly, just go shit up another thread or go back to call of duty or whatever else you adhd retards do to keep your attention for more than 30 seconds. Fuck I hate summer and I really hate zoomers.
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>>4881446
2 of those don't even looked like they voted. They just commented and called someone a retard
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>>4881426

>>4881120

>Bonk her on top of the head with the Spear of Truth.
>"That's my win, Rhongobongo."
>>Now that you have proven yourself, ask her to leave Gray and become your weapon
>>If she cannot, offer a hand to pull her up. Use this as a pretext for the required 10 seconds.
>>4881236
>>4881240
>>4881241 (vote nullified by QM as per >>4881315)
>>4881245
>>4881246
>>4881250

>Just tap her with the side of the the Spear of Truth.
>"I believe this is enough fighting between us."
>>>Now that you have proven yourself, ask her to leave Gray and become your weapon
>>>If she cannot, offer a hand to pull her up. Use this as a pretext for the required 10 seconds.
>>4881342
>>4881359
>>4881372
>>4881377
>>4881402
>>4881408
>>4881409
>>4881433
>>4881442

For once, the meme vote loses.

>>4881446
You missed a couple things, anon.
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>>4881452
Well at least your vote didn't win
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>>4881453
The vote I supported won, batman. Sanity won. That's all that matters to me. Cope.
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>>4881456
As long as your write in doesn't win that's all that matters to me. Dial8
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>>4881459
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>>4881456
Would you consider all the damn headpats meme votes?
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I think everyone here is making a WAY bigger deal of this than it really is.
She's not gonna have an autistic meltdown because you jokingly called her a nickname.
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>>4881464
Too late anon. Fun loses out yet again
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On unrelated note, I didn't realize how bad a case of breast envy Artoria has. Would she grow naturally over time if she swapped out her main weapon, after getting incarnated?

Maybe just settling down for a time with Shirou without fighting will be enough.
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>>4881464
She's extremely prideful, and while she wouldn't have chimped out, she would have had her opinion of you drastically lowered again for not being gracious in victory after she brought herself down to your level to fight.
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>>4881474
Why do we have to hang out with so many pride and honor obsessed people? Having to wrangle so many superpowered jackasses gets annoying after a while.
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>>4881472
Her daughterson can help her with that, probably

>>4881473
Based chaos anon

>>4881474
https://youtu.be/Kq3TiuRC-VQ
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>unironically saying Rhongobongo is really the hill players wanted to die on
what the fuck bros, that would have caused me physical pain to read
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>>4881480
Your priorities are fucked up if calling her rhongobongo is what causes you pain and not shinji shitting on the floor after a truce, samefag.
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>>4881472
Well Rhongo does have bongos. Arturia wants to look as woman as possible, so she would feel self conscious.
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>>4881472
Yeah, Rhongomyniad is just Artoria ten years from now if her sword didn't stop her aging. I guess she could start using her own Rhongo more now, and have her sister-in-law hug her every now and then to absorb the lingering bad juju before she gets taken over.
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If Artoria wants to look like her Lancer self I'm sure we could think of something.
Is there some sort of Self-Modification skill that affects others?
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>>4881485
>>4881496
Shouldn't have wasted her concept, then we could have given her the concept of Oppai.
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>>4881496
I wonder.
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>>4881501
>Shirou figures out his wife is anxious about something
>Consults her ex about it
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>>4881500
Well, we can apply to different body parts, but it would be...weird to do that to her....OH, WE CAN ENCHANT SOME LINGERE FOR HER!
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>>4881501
Well, I guess Morgan now has a chance to prove to her sister that she really feels bad and wants redemption.
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>>4881509
Ahem. Why would we for Shirou's wife?

Spearwife who lives in Shinji's head rent free

https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/Royal_Icing
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>>4881520
Well we can just tell Shirou Saber is jealous of Rhongo's chest. That should be funny for a bit until they go about trying to see if pregnancy will make her breast larger.
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>>4881524
We can't see inside Seibah's head in character.
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>>4881524
not in character knowledge
and honestly it is very much a problem we don't need to take upon ourselves, we have a thousand woman problems already, don't need to add another man's woman's chest to that.
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>>4881527
It's fine, we'll just make a going into games machine.
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>>4881527
No but we already know thanks to meta knowledge.
>>4881529
Implying we don't know about Sabers tit envy?
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>"Hey Morgan you sister is jealous of Rhongo's breasts, if only someone could help her with that, wink wink nudge nudge."
Of course, we don't know that in character, so I guess Artoria will seethe forever.
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>>4881539
Milking my prostate
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>>4881539
....don't know. It should be fine. Probably.
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>>4881541
Gay
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>>4881529
Consistently based NTR Anon. A genuine boon to the thread.
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>>4881539
Hacking our dial-up
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>>4881546
Hack the planet!
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>>4881453
>>4881459
>>4881463
>>4881467
Your underage is showing. Please come back when you're 18.
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>>4881550
Oof
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>>4881550
It's the batmong
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>>4881563
Honestly, what do we even get out of calling her some dumb seamonkey reddit tier name? It's very childish and for someone as prideful as her it's rubbing salt in a wound. It doesn't do anything for us except give a single dopamine molecule to speds and also risks unforseen consequences.
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>>4881593
I'm surprised people assume that calling her Rhongo as an in battle taunt is anywhere close to calling her reddit post battle.

Also, imagine trying to say Rhongomyniad over and over again mid swordswing, if anything it was just being realistic with the flow of battle and dialogue in calling her that.
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>>4881604
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>>4881613
Look in a mirror you miserable retard, voting to call her a leddit meme.
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>>4881604
So then don't say anything? Imagine reading some meta or forced meme in a VN over and over again. Even worse, imagine hearing it in forma de anime.
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>>4881623
How is that a reddit name? I don't go there.
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Interlude Start

Monica was forced to watch as the Heroic Spirit who was in control of her body did battle with a group of unfamiliar faces sent after her, she only vaguely recalled the face of one of the war's overseers who had already been slain... Ciel was her name, if she recalled correctly. But she had... absolutely no idea who the rest of them were. Monica felt it cruel that she had been kept conscious while her host wielded her body for his own ends, but... the alternative was far worse. To be kept as a prisoner of your own body was bad enough, but it would've been a far more horrific thing to be kept in a blissful dreamlike state despite being used as no more than a meat puppet for a Heroic Spirit. No, Monica was in reality thankful for that much, at least. Even though it caused her no small amount of anguish to watch as the Heroic Spirit who had taken her body used it against the boy she had come to love as a younger brother. At first, she had tried speaking to the spirit within her, and while he did respond, he wasn't very helpful, but he was more than apologetic about how the situation had come about. It turns out that he wasn't exactly the greatest fan of being forced within the body of a woman to help a little psychopath achieve her goals, but he wasn't given a choice in the matter either. The girl held the power to create contracts with Servants out of pages of a bizarre book, and those contracts were far more binding than a simple set of Command Spells. The girl could use the pages implanted within her minions to freely alter their Spiritual Origins and their Saint Graphs however she pleased. Granting them additional powers or changing their entire personalities, just to match her own goals.

It was a sad reality, but for a Servant under Manaka Sajyou's control, rebelling against her was truly impossible. Monica wasn't aware if any of the Servants under her employ were without the magical contract she forged with them. The worst part about the contract is that it can be applied even to a completely unwilling party at first, who is then controlled through either fear or trickery... if she didn't just drive the Servant insane or mad to further her goals first. Fortunately though, it seemed that the girl was of the impression that not every issue could be solved through mad brutes charging headlong at it... and speaking of mad brutes...
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The woman that Tesla had clearly decided was the greatest threat just wouldn't let up. Every attempt to attack her was countered by the girl with relative ease, and though the fight seemed to have started poorly for the attacking faction, when Caster appeared with a squad, and barely managed to defend herself with a magical barrier against Tesla's initial retaliation upon realizing that he was being ambushed... it was odd to consider Tesla a male when he was in her body, but whatever. He was strong willed enough that the biological make-up of a body wasn't enough to make him consider himself anything other than what he knew himself to be. Monica didn't really know who she was supposed to support at this point. She knew that she should be probably be rejoicing at the fact that she... or rather, her body might lose this battle, but there was a part of her that wanted to win as well! Or, well, a part of her that didn't really want Tesla to die, at least. It's funny, despite everything, and with how Tesla had been forced into her body, she really didn't want to see the Heroic Spirit meet his end. Under usual circumstances, Monica had come to understand that if Tesla was summoned by a Master as evil as that girl was, he would have simply taken his own life, but... trapped in the body of a living human, he didn't resort to that. Choosing instead to go along with Manaka's foul plans for the sake of her. It was telling, Monica thought, that despite their current situation, Tesla still referred to her as 'Master' during their mental dialogues, and Tesla himself mentioned that it was only the power of the contract placed upon him that prevented him from fully relinquishing control of her body and returning it back to her.

As it was though, she was powerless as she watched the battle between Tesla and the group who had presumably come to either kill or capture her... him... whatever. Tesla didn't mess around though, and though most of the ambusing force were able to defend themselves from his attack, the brown haired boy and the blue haired girl were very much incapable of such a thing, and were killed instantly almost the moment they showed up. Two super accelerated metal spikes turned their torsos to pulp. Monica didn't even have the chance to feel bad about the overseer or the unknown boy, when the rest of the four attackers sprung to attack Tesla.

Tesla was keeping his distance as he darted across the rooftops, or at least was trying to, but even his strongest attacks were being batted aside with very little difficulty by the blonde woman and the tall tan woman. Both of those women seem to be almost completely invulnerable to this level of attack. The woman with the two spears also similarly had very little difficulty with deflecting the hyper-accelerated metal spikes.
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"You know, you can stop running, you can't escape and you can't beat any of us." The blue haired girl who only minutes before hopped from another building to intercept Tesla's path, holding a spear in her hands.

"High speed regeneration? Unexpected, but not unsolvable, I suppose I'll just have to destroy your body until nothing remains." Despite his true thoughts on things, Tesla was very much on the surface loyal to Manaka, and did her bidding. He had no choice but to remain loyal, after all.

"It wouldn't work, that would never have worked even before..." The blue haired girl sounds disappointed, but her face hardens when the sound of five people landing behind Tesla becomes very obvious. "You can either give up, or we can make you submit." The girl sounded far too confident, but Tesla merely smirked at her.

"I don't believe that to be the case, so I'll take the third option and rid myself of all five of you at once." Tesla said with a great deal of confidence as they reached their hand out, their copper gauntlet clacking together slightly as they pointed at them all, and... nothing happened. They waggled their hand a little, but the blonde woman just burst out laughing.

"Wow! Shinji was right! Turning off electromagnetism in an area was really all it took!" W-wait a second! What?! Hold on a second... Monica realized who this girl was! This is the White Princess of the True Ancestors! This is... Arcueid Brunestud herself!

"Rule Breaker!"

Tesla could barely even react from his shock in time to feel the ceremonial dagger pierce his back and obliterate the contract forced upon him, and Monica blacked out just at she same moment as he did.

Interlude Out.
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>>4881624
Don't even have to imagine. The SEAniggers translating FGO NA do this in the official release unironically.

4 seconds too slow to avoid breaking the update, fug :DDDDDDD
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>>4881626
I've got money on Giles' Negronomicon being used for these contract pages. Manaka should have access to him from the last war and he hasn't shown once.

Alaya, channel or summon Qin Shi Huang and have him burn all the books.
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>>4881633
>damned if you translate slang as local western slang
>damned if you translate slang as a mockery of japanese statements
literally impossible to satisfy fgokeks
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>>4881632
>Arc KEEPS not jobbing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ9rUzIMcZQ

And smart woman, Medea. Tesla subjugation force was a complete success! We got Monica back, bros!

>>4881637
Huh, I had been wondering where that retarded COOLer was.
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>>4881639
OUUUUHH ALBERT SAMA PLEASE SHIT IN MY MOUTH
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>>4881633
Skipchad master race so I don't have to put up with that shit, and it's the exact reason why I do it. As soon as I see some dumb cringe shit I hit that SKIP button. I want to read some interesting lore seeing as how we haven't had anything decent in a while. Not to mention what media has been released is based on the game. Imagine going to the theater, paying $15.99 for a ticket, $9 for food, plus tip and dumb memes get forced. Physically painful.
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>>4881639
Always make fun of bugmen. Always. Begone chang.
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>"FGO is the worst thing ever, god its awful."
>"Yes, I do still play it."
?????
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>>4881629
Serb a good boy he dindu nuffin.

>permavirgin
>immediately simps to the first female he ends up inside

Yep, it's pottery.
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>>4881651
Good thing Eresh can make him a real boy.
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>>4881632
Phew, that was a load off my chest. Thanks OP.
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>>4881644
>>4881659
Uhh bro.. this isn't /out/
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>>4881642
>fgokek has to try and bring people down to a strawman's level to not feel insecure about spending $1500 on a garbage money laundering scheme
sorry nigger, but i'm genetically superior to you on basis of not playing fgo
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>>4881650
The official chapters aren't bad and some are actually good. Events and side stories are shit though. The translators pander more and more to retards because they actually spend money on the game.
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>>4881668
Based animal poster

>>4881670
>paying

Just luckchad and chargeback
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>>4881670
I hope you enjoy the anime and movies based on the game while waiting for other media :^)
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>>4881674
>charge back
Filed under "Based, Very"
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>>4881674
>The crackling red lightning of the summoning ceremony cleared, and in the center of the circle stood a tan man with white hair, somewhat like EMIYA but with a much much smugger expression. "Goooooooooooood morning whales! It's me, your boy, Shinji! Don't forget to chargeback!"
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>>4881677
never watched the babylonia or camelot "anime", never will. if i wanted to see a slideshow i'd check out the way of the house husband adaptation not
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>>4881689
FGO is absolutely garbage. Unfortunately, it's the main source of Typemoon content now because even though the horsechads are beating it in revenue, it still prints money due to leddit and japanese soulless niggercattle consoomers.
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>>4881689
>never watched babylonia
AAAaaaAAAaaaAAAaaaAAAaaaAAAaaaAAAaaaAAAaaaAAA
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I just thought of something.
How many named characters have we killed?
We usually try to get them to join us, regardless if they're good or evil, so its a very small number.
I can only think of Kirei, Gramps, Nrvnqsr and Roa. Not counting Diarmuid and Jets since they respawn.
Are we planning on killing any of the villains? Morrigan, Gilles, the Hassans, Altrouge? The Manaka that isn't corrupted?
Or are we actually going for the save everyone ending?
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>>4881699
the protagonist's bland, pointless existence makes me irrationally angry. replace them with literally any chad kino established character (i'd take even fucking sieg at this point) and half of the story would become actually bearable
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>>4881708
>save everyone
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Seems like Shinji is off the hook. Monica doesn't remember the kiss.
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>>4881710
when will you let him be a chad
do we need to put artoria in harm's way?
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>>4881710
Well, save everyone we know about at least.
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>>4881708
That's pretty accurate, yeah. Rin killed Kirei, we killed grandpa, Sakura killed Chaos and we retconned Roa out of existence. Everyone else has been recruited.

I see no reason at all to spare Morrigan. Illya should eat her. We shouldn't kill Altrouge, just reverse the standard vamp contract so she becomes Satsuki's slave for eternity. The uncorrupted Manaka is the zombie Manaka who started it all, so I see no reason to leave her alive either. She's already dead. As for Gilles and Hassans, too early to tell. I'd say kill Gilles and spare the Hassans, but we haven't really discussed it.

>>4881709
Oh, I don't disagree at all anon. The bland self-insert protagonist is insufferable. But it has its moments. All of them involving other, more interesting characters, naturally.
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>>4881722
one bad apple spoils the bunch. would you eat the tastiest, juiciest steak in the world if it were served on a plate of manure? that's FGO, except the table, chair and silverware are made of shit as well.
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>>4881722
CHAOS?!
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>>4881730
make a servant sheet for him
class: Stranger
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>>4881730
I mean... Maybe we could concept Gilles into his Saber version, or some variant of it. If Manaka buffed him too, then he might bring Jeanne Alter with him somehow.
I already kinda wanted to bring regular Jeanne here to see how she'd deal with the "We spoke to God" stuff, but his whole deal is God letting her burn while he did far worse shit, so I wonder how he'd react to that...
Eh, too soon to think about, I'll just wait for them to attack us again.
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>>4881730
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>>4881738
>>4881722
wrong person.
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>>4881738
>>4881759
I'm inclined to just splatter Gilles's head on the wall when we see him. After telling him that we spoke to God, of course, and God's Prophet says he's a massive retard. Have you seen what he did to those kids? We saved Zero Rin from him! Whatever he once was, he's an irredeemable monster now. Jannu's death broke him, and he cannot be fixed.
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>>4881772
I mean, yeah he could be fixed.
He'd just probably kill himself like, 5 seconds later upon realizing the monster he became and how he shat upon Jeanne and all she believed in.
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>>4881781
Yep. He'd definitely kill himself if he was brought back to his senses and turned into his earlier, pious self. Why not just put him out of his misery instead? Saves us the use of whatever Concept we'd give him for someone more deserving too.
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>>4881708
I unironically wanna save Gilles, Altrogue can die tho
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>>4881790
I say it's a fitting punishment, if he wants to neck himself let him do it, if he wants redemption let him work for it
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>>4881790
Yeah, I agree.
I do hope he brings his fanfic OC with him at least.
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>>4881798
The copy truly can be superior to the original
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>>4881806
I like them better as a set actually. They play off each other well imo.
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>>4881819
They do but if I has to pick one, it's Alter no question
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>>4881855
If I had to pick then regular, if only because we're already surrounded by so many morally dubious people, a moralfag would be a nice change of pace.
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>>4881863
It's fine. We'll just make Morgan, Merlin and Shiki our moral advisors.
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>>4881869
My great great grandfather was a great orator. Bless him
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>We'll just make Morgan, Merlin and Shiki our moral advisors.
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You follow through with your attack! Lunging the Spear of Truth right... past her head, not touching her at all with the blade of the weapon, and instead choosing to lightly tap her on the side of the head with the flat of the spearhead, causing her to look up at you in surprise for a few seconds, before you smile down at her and speak. "I think that this is enough fighting. I hope that you're satisfied with my performance, Rhongomyniad." You keep your tone gracious and affable as you dispel your weaponry, leaving yourself unarmed and defenseless should Rhongomyniad decide to retaliate against you with lethal force out of some desire to act like a bad loser, but... thankfully, such a thing doesn't happen, and she too dispels the sword of light in her hand.

"Yes. For a living human being, you were... everything that I could have wanted in an opponent, our skills were almost equally matched, and my blade was only able to withstand clashes with your own thanks to the amount of magical energy that I was reinforcing it with." Rhongomyniad gets up from the floor of her own accord, thus removing the opportunity of trying to help her to her feet as a pretext for the ten seconds that you'd need in order to apply a concept to her! Drat. "I can only wonder just how powerful you will become when your powers reach full maturity..." The Goddess seems in genuine awe of you as she looks into your eyes, her normally piercing eyes seem to gained a sort of... warmth to them. While you're certain that Gray isn't in control right now, you know for a fact that the Goddess Rhongomyniad is still the one piloting the body. So... she managed to properly develop emotions over the course of your duel then? Or at least some emotions, that is.
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"I've not given it much thought, honestly." Of course, there's really not much point in doing such a thing. After all, as far as you can tell, your full potential power is impressive enough that even a true Outer God is willing to play nice with you, so... to call that theoretical power greater than anything that could possibly originate from this planet isn't exactly something you feel would be inaccurate. You were brought to this world by God himself, and even if you aren't the complete version of the original version of yourself, who likely still exists somewhere out there, in the realities above this one, you still have more potential power than anything that could spawn from this world, no... from this entire universe! You should probably stop thinking about where the depths of your powers might lie, actually. You don't exactly really care much for the idea of becoming some sort of God. If you wanted something like that, you'd have started a plot to reach the Root already. You don't quite know what would happen if you were to grasp the Root. Would the infinite knowledge contained within destroy you? Would your knowledge of Truth in turn destroy it? Either of those two options aren't exactly something you want to find out... ever. So you'll probably just have to leave being obliterated by the Root to the fool magi across the Tree of Time.

"I see, just know that while I held back my tremendous amount of magical energy in order to grant you a chance of victory, other than that, I was mostly fighting at my best against you." Well, other than the fact that you were using a sword instead of a spear, but... that hardly matters. What does however matter is the fact that despite everything, you managed to defeat the Goddess Rhongomyniad in single combat. Of course, she's likely trying to make you feel better about how she suppressed her magical energy against you. "Know that I have every belief that one day, there will come a time where we do battle against one another where I would have no need to suppress my full strength against you." Rhongomyniad once again gives you a smile, and you can't help but awkwardly smile back at the goddess, however...

"I want to ask you something, Rhongomyniad." You look at the goddess, staring deep into her now warmer eyes, before you sigh. "The girl who's body you are possessing... would you consider giving her back to us?" For as much as you've grown to be able to tolerate Rhongomyniad for proving to be a vastly different type of being to the one you recalled from the Camelot Singularity, you still want Gray back.
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"Giving her back...? Well, I suppose that I could... but... that would leave me without a body of my own, other than the spear that serves as my vessel." Rhongomyniad sighed. "That girl should be too distracted playing with her newest catch to listen to me here, so it's safe for me to discuss with you." She looks you in the eye for a moment before speaking. "There are many under the control of that girl who are only serving her thanks to a powerful form of magecraft, one that can bind even the most powerful of Heroic Spirits. You would do well not to take that girl lightly, and that's why... I want to remain in this body, as a Goddess, that power to bind even Heroic Spirits is of... less effect on me." Rhongomyniad makes an outrageous suggestion, before she seems to realize just what she was saying. "I wish to be of assistance, to pretend to be Manaka's loyal ally till the time she realizes my treachery." Rhongomyniad makes a suggestion you hadn't thought of, and it... is a decent one too, granted that Manaka doesn't just get suspicious of the Goddess Rhongomyniad anyway. "Or... I suppose... I wouldn't be... too upset about taking the form of a weapon once more... if it's you wielding me..." The Goddess actually blushes and looks away from you as she says that, and you're left pondering. While you of course want Gray back as soon as possible, the opportunity to have a woman on the inside is... also very tempting.

>"I think it would be good for you to remain connected to Manaka, if you're confident you'll be able to deceive her."
>"If you are fine with it, then... I'll become your wielder."
>"How about if I tried to give you your own body, separate of any host?"
>Write-in...
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>>4881910
"If you are fine with it, then... I'll become your wielder. I will do my best to give you a human form soon
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While an inside agent would be great, this isn't really a choice we can make.
We can't just let Gray be a puppet because its useful to us.
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I'm not sure what to choose, last update for today?
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>>4881910
>"If you are fine with it, then... I'll become your wielder.
Inside agents ALWAYS fucking die. ALWAYS. Save the weaponfu.
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>>4881910
>>"How about if I tried to give you your own body, separate of any host?"
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>>4881910
>"If you are fine with it, then... I'll become your wielder. I will do my best to give you a human form soon
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>>4881916
Yes.
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I do think having Rhongo around is better than just having the spear. She seems to be more powerful when she's wielding herself.
How fast can we make her a body?
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What's a word that will give her a body? We already wasted one on Argo.
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>>4881943
humanoid? Anthropoid?
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>>4881943
Why do we need to waste a word to make her a body. Just ask one of the people we know who can do it, and then use her word on something else.
Like Space.
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>>4881943
I wonder if incarnation would work.
>>4881955
I mean, i guess, morgan is the specialist in making saber clones.
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>>4881970
We could also ask Betty to use her Authority to make us a Saber, but with bigger boobs.
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>>4881973
Hitomi sized breasts
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>>4881975
Honoka sized breasts.
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>>4881955
Space would be suicide.

>>4881910
>>4881924
>>"If you are fine with it, then... I'll become your wielder

Avoid the increasing character bloat plus an easy way to refill our reserves.
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Even if we ask her to not go back as a double agent, could we ask her to pretend to still be on Manaka's side for a minute so she gets the drop on Jackie or Jets?
Would be useful to save them quick.
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>>4881910
I'm sorry fucking what, who the hell did Manaka get ahold of?!
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>>4882032
I'm curious about that as well, i wonder if manaka has the help of some other entity.
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>>4882034
>>4882032
If you're referring to the "newest catch", I think that's Proto Arthur, Gray's servant, that Manaka is obsessed with.
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>>4881915
Also, Manaka could just ramp up the intensity of the contract at any time and we now have a double double agent in our midst.

I'm really concerned as to who her new quarry is too, probably APEX?

Considering how supposedly enamoured she is with them as per Rhongo's words.

Rhon can tell us when she's talking to us in our mind as our spear.

>>4881910
>"If you are fine with it, then... I'll become your wielder."
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>>4881929
We don't need more power, we need Shinji to be able to stand on his own.

There is nothing stopping Manaka avoiding our Teleblock Babylonian friendship bracelet by just teleporting all others away from us and having us at the mercy of several servants.

Remember we only got through this with a combination of item buffs, Medea's reinforcement and having Artoria's freshly concepted treasury available to us.

Manaka always counters our concepts in the next encounter, so we might not be able to rely on ANY of those again.
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>>4882011
The Holy Light Barrier is the only thing keeping them at bay. Actually, as there is a good chance it will fade if she disconnects from Gray as a spear, I'm gonna amend my voot to have some countermeasures against us getting instantly mogged if it drops.
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>>4882046
So what are the chances she's distracting herself by trying to get laid right now?
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>>4882069
Very high.
>>4882060
We should also ask her what she knows about enemy servants, and where they are right now behind the barrier, if she does know.
I'm getting kinda sick of having poor Jets and Diarmuid thrown at us like dogs every 5 minutes.
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>>4881910
Amending >>4882057
to

>"If you are fine with it, then... I'll become your wielder."
>However, without your own form, and my own output capacity as it currently is however, I fear maintaining such a powerful protective veil of light might not be possible for much longer. I wish to warn our allies to prepare for the coming onslaught that you have graciously protected us against until now, Rhon.
>Warn people to prepare, and accept her compromise.

Assuming we're left with a spear and Gray's body, we should have both Morgan and the Argo's healer duo attend to her immediately after we take up the spear and have personally purged Gray's body of any lingering contract.
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>>4882074
We'll definitely talk to her later, yeah. She might not know much, however and may have only recently been captured.
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>>4882046
I mean, how she got the knowledge of how to control servants and what that book is.

I want to give a body to rhongo, being a spear sucks.
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>>4882086
Remember how long just trying to make a bait body took for Orochi?

Remember how long Betty was out of commission after recreating Abby?

Now imagine how long she'd be asleep for if she were to make a vessel fit for a Goddess. Also, Earthly Divinities like Rhon are absolutely disgusted by Eldritch stuff, just look at all of Chad Paladin Beaky's kit for examples.

We can make her a Xian tier body post war, which would be pretty compatible wuth her Divine nature. Or have Morgan construct something impressive. Either or, less of a priority and Rhon herself offered having her as a weapon as a compromise.

Also, when Ilya was bodyjacked by a god she got powers when she was freed, Gray might too.
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>>4882100
I know, i didnt mean giving her a body now.
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>>4881970
iirc True Incarnation was wasted on Medusa's little goblins lmao
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>>4882124
So, can we bullshit it by using "divine incarnation"
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>>4882134
We risk that she could just as easily end up a bush or something.

True Incarnation implied they kept their proper form. Japanese myth implies literally any item can be a god. In fact, her spear current form is already a Divine Incarnation as she has presence in the physical word as an object.

Fucking gorgongoblins
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>>4881910
>"If you are fine with it, then... I'll become your wielder."
>I will do my best to give you a human form soon
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>>4881910
Support >>4882078

Give me spear. And I wonder what Gray will have gotten after this. She's probably an anti-wraith Rhongo lite now, like Illya became a goddess.
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>>4882144
>a bush
That would be hilarious.
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>>4881910
>>"How about if I tried to give you your own body, separate of any host?"
Seems simple enough
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>>4882218
>>4881924

Have a read of this anons, it might not be so easy.
>>4882100
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>>4881910
Normally I’d be worried she’s overestimating her ability to overcome whatever compulsion Manaka can exert on her, though hopefully after this whole affair that should not be a concern.

>Rhongomyniad, I am willing to become your wielder.
>However, I feel this is a choice I feel you should make for yourself. If you are convinced of your ability to deceive the girl, and willing to strain your principles so, doing that would also be a boon to our cause.
>But by the same token, the host you inhabit should also be able to make that choice. If you are able, I’d like if you could consult this with her.
>Because regardless, as soon as opportunity to do so arises, I’d like to arrange for returning her body to her, with your choice between taking your original form or a vessel of your specification.
>I’d like to give you the time to decide while I arrange with my allies plans to defend ourselves. No trickery this time. You have likewise shown yourself trustworthy.
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>>4881910
>>4882273
Additionally, stress that safety of them both is for us higher priority than possibility of a helpful traitor.
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>>4882222
We'll get Touko on the case or ask Rin for help
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>>4882273
Yeah, I'm pretty worried about her ability to overcome Manaka's contract. She can do it right now, when Manaka is distracted by her Arthur, but how long is this gonna last? Sending her off to be a double agent probably ends with either her dead, used unwillingly as a triple agent, or becoming a hostage. Rhongomyniad is a goddess, but Manaka is omnipotent.

I doubt she'd want to become a human. Her original form is that of a talking wielder-possessing spear, and she said she'd like to be wielded by us. I don't oppose offering her the choice though.

Regardless, leaving Gray is a choice that must be made NOW. We can't give her time, or Manaka might decide to take her eyes off her blacked APEX and flip the channel here, at which point Rhongo is just a simple command away from grabbing Shinji and running, and we're fucked.
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>>4882282
In fact maybe it would be better to outright say that if she cannot talk to Gray as she is she shouldn’t expose her to risk like that. But emphasizing we want them both alive should be enough to make that conclusion, I think.
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>>4882282
>>4882290

Yeah, I worry about Manaka having a look at any point in this conversation if it goes on too long. Also, being omniscient outside of scryblocking which she probably stabbed Merlin for specifically in the forest, the very first time we get useful info from Rhon, who, judging from her response seems to be leaning towards becoming an agent she's gonna CS her back or use her as a double double agent against her will.

Rhon isn't the smartest or best long term thinker. Being autistic/a goddess she just thinks things will work a certain way and doesn't concern herself with alternatives. She was fine with only 500 humans in her arc in Camelot despite the alternatives and hell, Shinji was able to bait her into her emotions getting in her way and causing her to lose the duel even.

A Prideful Goddess might be in over her head against gigarootchad satancunny. I don't know what we'd gain from her being a double agent that was worth risking Gray or her.

Manaka will toy with her and spit her out I feel.

>>4882292
Yeah, even interacting with Gray is bad.

If she can't return to weapon form and disconnect from Gray on her own, Morgan will have to Erosion her. If Morgan dies trying from Manaka hijacking Rhon it's fine, because with Independent Manifestation she can just come right back anyway. Shinji needs to Truth purge the contract too, before we let anyone touch Gray's body because who knows, maybe Rhon was too strong to contract so the contract was placed on Gray's body?

Just like with Tesla, Rhon may have wanted to preserve her host, but more so that she had a vessel to herself try and save humanity, in her own autistic and likely to fail way as she did as the Lion King.
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>>4882273
I don't trust her being able to take everything manaka has, its better to get a ally now than losing one later.
And Gray exists.
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>>4882290
>>4882297
I suppose that's fair. allowing more debate now is only creating unnecessary hazard, as is chance for the two to get blacked in Manakas' care.

>>4881910
>>4882273
>>4882282

Switching to >>4882078
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>>4882306
Have you considered namefagging, anon? WhatIs will probably make a new thread next update, and I'd like to be able to recognize you immediately in the future. I've greatly enjoyed our discussions.
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>>4881910
Supporting >>4882078
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>>4881910
Seconding this>>4882273
>>4882282
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>>4882342
>>4881910
Switching to >>4882078
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>>4882078
I really should have used a different word to however twice in one sentence here. O well, Shinji might be a seamonkey for a moment
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>>4882078
>>4881910
+1
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>>4882352
dw, WhatIs will fix that. He tends to fix the more retarded dialogue, usually.

And it's getting time for
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7_GVgodMqs
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>>4882078
>>4881910
Support.
Gee Shinji, how come you get to have two big tiddy Saberfaces?
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>>4882476
Not this time. This time Shinji is getting something long and hard to stick into soft tissue.

Unless she begins manifesting in his dreams... Especially if the dream encounters qualify, it might be interesting if she showed up to offer her perspective. But somehow I doubt that will happen.
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>>4882479
>rhongo decides to appear during a visit from alan
>goes insane
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>>4882479
Spearwife tulpa soon, have Faith.

Gil approves of living weapon friend.

Also kino fight going all out parallels his first meeting with Clae.
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>>4882482
well let's hope she doesn't get insane from our collection of saberface doujins.
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>>4882483
I'd really like to see the audience reactions after this.
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>>4882484
I wonder what she thinks of Royal Icing
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>>4882487
She's going to ask Artoria for a taste from her vault.
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>>4882489
actually.. seeing as it's official art.

I guess Artoria owns a set inside the vault, yeah.
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Will the army of JAKUs outside fuck off now?
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Also our house is fucked where are we meant to sleep tonight?
Rins???
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>>4882493
You'd think someone in the crowd won't job and deliver a solid aoe. We'll see.

>>4882497
I wonder if Manaka is busy enough having APEX fuck her chest wound that she'll let us actually sleep tonight.
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>>4882497
We'll just buy a hotel and kick everyone out, if we don't own one already. And if there is a tonight.
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>>4882500
>>4882500
iirc we told Raiga we'd call him back tonight, probably should.

Cards are probably down in the city due to the blackout, along with automatic doors, cameras and stuff.

We might inquire with him about somewhere suitable I guess?

Doubt the chequebook survived the house flattening and electronic $ access might be down citywide.
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>>4882505
>>4882500
We also cant forget we promised to fuck Medea if possible.
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>>4882505
Why don't we ask Gil or Saber to see if they can provide a house?
Enkidu too.
Or we can just ask Satsuki to let everyone inside her RM for the night.
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>>4882509
Nero can just use her Saver tier Theatre upgrade to paint over an area as a giant imperial villa with enough space and high quality enough aesthetics that it won't be a downgrade.

She can Imperial Privilege herself EX Territory Creation too.

>>4882509
Shirou doesn't have the mana to manifest the castles and stuff Seibah has stored I imagine.

Gil might not want the riff raff touching his stuff.
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>>4882505
>"In a sense." You keep your answer brief. "I've got to go now, but we'll definitely talk again later." Raiga makes a noise of agreement before you hang up the phone and turn to the girls. "Well, that went pretty well, I think." You smile at the two of then.

We didn't really tell him we'd call tonight, but of course that doesn't mean that we couldn't.
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>>4882510
If it works like GoB there's no upkeep cost.
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>>4882513
Then she might just be able to colony drop castles on people as a battle tactic, based.
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>>4882509
Just make those eldritch maids and order them to create new house.
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>>4882517
>Arcueid, Len and the fairies disliked that.
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>>4882511
How do we tell him his beloved granddaughter has had every man on the planet inside of her?
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>>4882521
We don't.
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How long can Arcueid keep her castle up?
Or we could crash in the Oni village although that would probably mean getting involved in more shenanigans.

>>4882510
Poor Nero, we never got to eat her cake and her pictures probably got ruined in the destruction.
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>>4882531
Not sure how long she can keep it up, but it's more difficult for her in civilized regions. Oni village hasn't been built yet, it's only been a day. And leaving Fuyuki might lead to us returning to a giant crater.

If we have a chance to prepare, we could also have Eresh make Kur, where she reigns supreme and her enemies are powerless. Sleep in the underworld for a day, and have our safety net ready.
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>>4882539
Yeah, if we could do that that would be nice.

>Ladies and gentlemen, tonight we dine in... Kur. Have a pleasant night.
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>>4882542
Yeah, I think our best bet is asking Eresh what she needs to do it, make it happen if we can, and crash in Arc's castle if we can't.
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>>4882531
This is Nero with no Migraine.
She'll just make a bigger cake and a bigger picture for her beloved Salvator.
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I just realized that when this war is over, Nero is going to start building giant statues of us and herself everywhere.
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We should use Rhongomyniad to destroy Scotland too.
Fuck the picts.
Caledonia delenda est.
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>>4882554
Can't wait
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>>4882554
UMU
M
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>>4882559
Holy baste.
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>>4882559
Based. Destroy Scotland, make the Hadrian wall into the Hadrian beach.
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>Do you even remember how many pounds of haggis did you eat in your life?
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>>4882559
Wait for Scratach to fuck up that face.

Also damn we missed an opportunity for her to evaluate Shinji. She could have given pointers afterwards.

It's time to be a wage slave again, don't do anything I wouldn't do lol.
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Can Ron change her weapon shape? It's a lance and Shinji is more used to spears.
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>>4882566
If poopchute saw this she'd have a dark patch on her skinsuit below the waist
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>>4882572
Yes. It can be a thinner spear or the big fuckoff lance for when we're mounted on...

Vrita, Aleithia, Lugh, Pegasus, Tiamat winged form Sakura

Also, if Morgan makes another Logos react we can make an omnitool that would fit Shinji's analytical fighting style + ching chong martial arts.

Add could become a Bow, Scythe, Spear, Boomerang, Hammer and Shield
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>>4882576
https://typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Add

And a sword and a grappling hook.

A few are redundant with Truth, but it wouldn't cost so much mana to have Rhon utilise these forms rather than using Shinji's own mana as without the aria spoken, Truth constructs are kinda expensive to manage.
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>>4882580
Now you're getting into my territory
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>>4882580
Yeah, having a multitool like that would be extremely useful. Unfortunately, it's not something that can be done anytime soon. Certainly not pre-Manaka.
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>>4882566
Scotland is such a shithole when Mystery exists that even daring to live there for a few hundred years banishes you from existence.
>>4882575
Also this too.
Though she's probably seen it all anyway didn't seem to take them long to catch Tesla so they were all probably watching.
Vritra is probably ovulating right now.
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So does Gray keep the improved body?
Also, is Add dead now? Broken?
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>>4882588
Add is kill. Morgan can rebuild him.

Ilya kept a lot from shittar, Gray should get.. something?
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>>4882591
We should probably get her a new weapon, if we're keeping Rhongo.
Unless Saber can get her another Rhongo.
But at that point it would get confusing. Do all of them have a goddess inside them?
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>>4882592
Probably?

Gray, as a Gravekeeper has a fuckload of anti-spiritual combat techniques, and as of Artoria's summoning in the fifth war she manifested a Dragon Core too.

Honestly, considering her life's problems were Morgan's fault, and she has incredible magic potential, I'd have Morgan be her mentor in Magecraft. Have Artoria kit her out with something that matches her combat style, maybe Carnwennan? Oh and Merlin's staff, because fuck Merlin and that's Artoria's property.
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>>4882592
Her preferred weapon is a scythe anyway.
Get this bitch a Harpe.
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>>4882597
Vortigern also owned a Demonic Scythe in some myths. That's property of Briton now.
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>>4882599
Isn't the entire island her property?
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>>4882604
And everything on it.

With mythdiving Secace and the Sword of David could be used even though Secace has nothing but a footnote in TM works and David's sword is just pure original myth.

As long as you can justify it with evidence it'd work.
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>>4882607
Seems ripe for abuse.
Like most shit we do in this quest anyway.
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>>4882609
Why do you think I suggested it as a concept?
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>>4882597
Does our medusa in her loli form have Harpe?
>>4882607
Can she just drop the island on someone's head?
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>>4882613
Medusa have everything in her every form as long as her Master have energy to support it.
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>>4882609
Hell, we probably weren't even supposed to beat the knights, let alone Rhon if we go off what Taiga told us in the dojo. The power of actually researching things to use their full potential.

ENTER,
Autism.

A Goddess, kneeling, defeated.

>>4882613
Shirou might have to pay materialisation costs, we don't know yet.

She could have a giant Crystal Castle in there btw, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caer_Sidi as well as https://typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Bright_Ehangwen potentially.

Holy fuck will I have to have 4 attempts to post this without errors or will 3 be enough?
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I really want to send Saber of Camelot to Avalon le Fay.
Hippity hoppity, your weapons, armor, mounts, clothing, houses, castles, villages and towns are my property.
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>>4882597
I give it a high chance she'll be able to manifest her own scythe now.

>>4882607
Yep, I would never have thought to ask for Secace if not for the pastebin you posted with all of Arthur's equipment. But a sword used by Lancelot to repel a horde of Saxon barbarians on his own? It was too fitting to pass up, and it would make Rhongo's knights seethe.

>>4882628
That would be real fun yes. First she confiscates everything, and then she genocides the fairies.
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>>4882628
If Saber jumps on Barghests back does that mean she's a mount?
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>>4882628
This was planned

Also, all of those Fairy Knights?

They're hers now.

>King of Knights: EX
>A skill that represents Arturia's position as the King of Knights, if her opponent should be a Knight and is sane, they must succeed on a will check, or they will immediately surrender to her. Even on a successful will check, they will suffer rank downs to all of their parameters. The same applies for Knights of the Round table, but the will check is far harder to succeed, and even a success will result in all parameters being ranked down by a whole two ranks.
>If her opponent is a King themselves, then on a successful will check, their parameters are not ranked down.
>Also functions as Charisma at Rank B, allowing Arturia to easily lead a country or an army with great effect.

Barghest just immediately simps to her because she's loyal to the strongest. Melusine might also be ok, but Liz forma de haggis is fucked and will shit and piss and then be deleted.

>>4882635
It worked with Shinji and Vrita. A little too well actually.
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>>4882638
>It worked with Shinji and Vrita. A little too well actually.
It was a grand success.
I am sure Shirou can handle dumb friendly dog if Saber bring her home.
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>>4882640
>Artoria's favourite dog, Cavall is male
>She can summon it through Arsenal of Camelot

Barghestkeks....
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>>4882643
Well, plenty of space for puppies in their forest in Germany.
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>>4882643
Cavall is also a pure white dog.

Barghest is a Burakku doggu.

COLONIZED
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We just need to convince Saber that fairies are property.
GET IN THE VAULT MORGAN.
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>>4882651
Women are property though?
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>>4882652
Is there a Guinevere in the vault?
Saber really is the Anti-Lancelot Servant if there is.
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>>4882655
We'll have to ask WhatIs if the vault already contains people I guess?

All of her possessions are there but he's currently Mad Retarded alignment due to the high level of AHHHHHHHHHH Manaka applied.

The only person he could probably recognise is Artoria herself.

>Madness Enhancement: A+
>High ranked Madness Enhancement, most Parameters are ranked up two times, but Berserker is now truly incapable of determining friend from foe. He would even attack his own Master the moment he saw them.

>Counter-Hero (King): A
>A skill drawn from Lancelot's actions as the Knight who brought about the downfall of Camelot, and the eventual death of the perfect king, this is a skill that allows for perfect survival against any existence who would call themselves a 'King' or could be referred to as something equivalent. Their Noble Phantasms are sealed, their parameters are lowered, and the damage they can deal to Lancelot is reduced to a small fraction of what it would otherwise be.
>This skill has one drawback, in that it works against Lancelot if that Perfect King is his opponent.
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>>4882661
This is Sir Simps-a-lot.
He'd recognise her.
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>>4882663
Can't wait to kill him again.
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Is there any real reason to go fuck around in FGO worlds other than doing it for the sake of doing it?
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>>4882703
A) It'll be fun to dab on these shitty worlds.
B) We're planning to yank their trees, blend them into a Chadgdrasil, and use that supertree as anchor for our coming Age of Truth.
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>>4882078
+1.
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Tally?
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>>4881910
"If you are fine with it, then... I'll become your wielder. I will do my best to give you a human form soon
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>>4882200

>"If you are fine with it, then... I'll become your wielder.
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>>4881990

>>"How about if I tried to give you your own body, separate of any host?"
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>>4882218

>"If you are fine with it, then... I'll become your wielder."
>However, without your own form, and my own output capacity as it currently is however, I fear maintaining such a powerful protective veil of light might not be possible for much longer. I wish to warn our allies to prepare for the coming onslaught that you have graciously protected us against until now, Rhon.
>Warn people to prepare, and accept her compromise.
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>>4882757

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iRS5gGmcys
RIP Add
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>>4882764
rip add
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New thread?
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>>4882952
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