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Your name is David "Gunny" Rockefeller, no relation.
A veteran of the united states marine corps, you find yourself in a far-out situation after an all-too-close encounter of the third kind!

In the last thread, David was captured by greys who met their untimely demise at the hands of a chinese missile, then found his way to a mining outpost on the edge of civilized space.
There he met Cylia, a Caithan girl who was down on her luck and Kyla, an excitable Jek'na engineer. Now they find themselves chasing a dangerous pirate known only as "Laggart"!
Will the crew meet their demise at the pirate's hands, or will our intrepid hero overcome the challenges that await him? Find out now, on Dragonball Z!
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>>4866191
so billy bob the redneck, a space cartgirl and a space gobbo, i don't know what i expected, really
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>>4866191

Previous thread: >>4844220
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>>4865326

"You really think it'll be that easy?"

You shrug.

"Who knows? The more complicated your plans, the more likely they are to fail. It's better to improvise on the spot, if you ask me."

"That's a fancy way of saying you don't have the proper equipment or a real plan for this."

"Well, unless you two have a better idea?"

"No, i just... ah, damn it. You're right, i'm sure it'll be fine. I'm sorry, i've just lost my nerve a bit."

"Woohoo, now this is gonna be an adventure!"

"Alright, calm down. Now if we do this right he'll never know what hit him. I know we've only got one laser on this ship, but i've been looking at how shields work and i think i know what to do.
We're gonna creep up real slow like. Slow enough that his shields don't react to us, see?"

"Oh lord, no."

"And then we're gonna shove our modest little laser right up his tailpipe!"

"That's so stupid! What if he detects us?! He could be armed to the teeth!"

"Don't worry, i'll be in the cockpit, piloting the ship manually-"

"THAT'S EVEN WORSE! Do you even know how to pilot a ship?!"

"Sure! Everything out here is so simple that it makes flying a chopper look like rocket science."

"And what's a chopper, exactly?"

"Eh, don't worry about it. Just suffice to say, you'd never get on one if you saw it. And they've got a really weird control scheme. Anyways, i have some "experience" with this type of thing, so don't worry about it."

"I don't like how you said "experience" just now."

"It was just your imagination. Now then, Cylia and i need to go shopping for personal shields. Kyla, can you get us fueled up in the meantime?"

"Sure thing, Captain!"

...

A few hours later and you've managed to get yourself the second shittiest pair of shields money can buy. Only rated for light phaser fire, but still better than nothing!
Kyla meanwhile managed to get a deal through one of her contacts and ended up refueling the ship completely, although she also paid an extra thousand credits out of her own pocket to do so.
Meaning that now, besides Kyla, everyone is broke.

"Alright boys, it's starting to get late. Is there anything else that we might consider before boarding? I have a few ideas, but i can't make them work without cash."

"What kinds of ideas?"

"Flashbangs. It's a type of grenade that blinds and deafens the target."

"...What's a grenade?"

"Oh for the love of- IT'S A BOMB! You throw it by hand, and it explodes! And don't tell me it's crazy, because i already know!"

"Sounds interesting, actually!"

"Oh, Kyla... not you too?"

"I don't know how the real ones work, but it can't be too difficult to make something similar. All it needs is a small explosive charge and a bunch of magnesium powder, i think."

"Oh wow... i could work with this! Your ship's fab can do metals and chemicals, right? I'll have a design done in under an hour!"

"Alright. Just one thing, no electronics. I want a fully mechanical pull-pin design."

"You really know how to speak my language, David!"
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>>4866191
Ah, my favorite space harem quest, love it
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>>4866220
Impossible. There's a massive size discrepancy involved in both cases.
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>>4866220
Rock waifu when?
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>>4866231
I don't think lithoids are really possible. Then again, we have gas people.
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>>4866220
big tiddy seeking quest, got it
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LET'S GOOOOOO. So my shitty oekaki makes sense huh?
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>>4866215
my favourite K thread has returned
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>>4866241
It doesn't have to be rock all the way down, if you catch my drift
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>>4866241
They're more like octopus balloons.

>>4866241
Maybe not in reality, but that's the great thing about fiction, isn't it?

>>4866265
True. Don't try to fuck a boulder though, please. Even if it has a meaty center.
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>>4866227
Cylia isn't that small and Kyla looks pretty sturdy.
On the other hand, the human phallus is absolutely massive compared to what our closest relatives in nature are equipped with. Also no barbs.
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>>4866282
Also David got a 20 on a d20, so he's packing some shmeat.

>>4866276
Can we ask the A.I. about the pipe we pulled off the wall?
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>>4866276
It's pretty damn certain somebody, at some point, has fucked pyura chilensis. Why should we limit ourselves?
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>>4866286
To make sure David doesnt does of blood loss.
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>>4866284
According to Kyla, it was some sort of low power whole-room scanner.
She's not sure what it was for.
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>>4866292
Fine, we don't HAVE to fuck the pet rock
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>>4866250
>>4866265
>>4866282
>>4866286
hornyposters get out I like this quest and don't want QM to drop like that battledroid quest
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>>4866295
Can we post a picture of the pipe on SpaceChan and see what answers we get? Hope it's not nerve gas.
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>>4866303
Did the QM of StarWars quest say he dropped the quest because of horni posters demanding cunny?
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>>4866303
Why did he leave, still don’t know.

Also I agree on keeping the horny posting down
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>>4866215
Was the first thread saved in suptg?
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>>4866306
You could try.

>>4866303
Being a horny little shit is also a form of engagement.
Just to be clear though, i won't be writing any smut, and this isn't going to end in a harem.
David only wants a single partner. He's the sort that wouldn't get remarried if his wife died.
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>>4866303
"Fuck" is literally in the name of the Quest.
What did you expect?
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>>4866313
I don’t think it was?
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>>4866314
David based in every way
>>4866316
Solid point
>>4866320
Lemme do it quickly then
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>>4866314
time to marry the catgirl then
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>>4866314
After the neccessary prepararions the time comes to merge all the waifu candidates into one amalgation in mad scientist style
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>>4866215
Get to know our crew a bit better. I have a goodnidea we know what makes Stalker tick, but what is Kyla besides a gearhead? We should learn a bit about where they come from and what they want out of life besides shiny mechanical things and generic success.
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>>4866286
Mmm... piure. Delicioso y es una excelente fuente de yodo. It is expensive however, very much so!
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>>4866330
Happy marriage arc comes at the end
>>4866345
We should get to know them better considering we met them like half an hour ago in universe.
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David should invest in deployable tracking beacons for ships and possibly find a way to hack the alien PDAs.
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>>4866314
>David only wants a single partner. He's the sort that wouldn't get remarried if his wife died
Dam I feel this
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>>4866393
invest in bacon instead
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>>4866433
That's probably better economically

If there's one thing I'm happy for this thread, it's that we don't have 3 different anons with almost the exact same color for their ID.
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>>4866485
kek
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>>4866485
Kek
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>>4866330
Why? If we must choose a waifu from available options, Kyla is more fun, more useful, more culturally-similar, and probably more physically-compatible.

Honestly, I like catgirls and goblin shortstacks, but there's no reason to wed either of 'em. Maybe a roll in the hay if we get pent up in space, but anything else is premature.
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>>4866489
>>4866496
I was one of them, it's really annoying when you can barely tell who you are.
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Did we get the toilets remodeled? What do you do to even bathe in space? I assume the spaceship is semi decent at recycling matter, so even trash/waste can at least be repurposed into something we sell I suppose?
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>>4866525
Seconding investigating this.

Also, I'm the same anon as >>4866345 (hjGoK3Tw). Was out and about.
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>>4866485
HItting the ship with a torpedo that then launches a beacon that drills/embeds onto the ship THEN triggers only after an hour seems like an interesting move.

Wonder if there's a chemical calculation computer on board. If we could figure out oxidizers for explosives, we'd be doing some crazy things.
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>>4866525
The toilets definitely need remodeled. The current ones are thoroughly unpleasant to use.
Since there's gravity on the ship, you could just have a normal bathroom.
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>>4866652
psst, what is a good toilet in space without the risk of prolapse?
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>>4866666
As expected of Ultra-Satan.
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>>4866666
ah, ultra instinct satan, how is hell going?
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>>4866666
Better question, what the hell do we use for tp? And don't give me BS about the 3 seashells!
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>>4866652
Sounds like the aays turn off gravity to conserve power and/or be lazy whenever they can.
>>4867071
That's probably why there's a vacuum. No wood for making paper in space. Might be the time to consider a bidet like those Japanese toilets.
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>>4866215

The next couple of days are spent preparing and getting to know eachother a little better. In that time, you hunt down a single punk for grocery money, but not much else happens.

"So Kyla, what's your home planet like?"

"Uhmmm... swampy, i guess? There are really big trees covering most of the planet's surface, so not a lot of light reaches the ground and a ton of moisture gets trapped. It's kind of cold there compared to a lot of places."

"Do i need to turn up the AC for you?"

"Nah, that kind of thing is normal. There's plenty of medicines you can take to regulate your body temperature! What about your planet, though?"

"It's varied. There are ice caps at the poles, frozen tundras, burning deserts, vast oceans, rotten swamps, green forests and overgrown jungles, endless plains and towering mountains..."

"Holy cow! How unstable is your climate and geography?!"

"I don't really have a frame of reference to tell you. We have powerful earthquakes all the time. Fires rage across some areas of the planet regularly, and the coasts are popular places to live due to their beauty, but every year there's this thing called "hurricane season" in which storms hundreds of miles wide form off the coast and reduce huge swaths of the coast to rubble. The area that i lived in has a different issue, tornadoes. When the weather is just right, huge winds will gather in the sky and turn on their sides, creating a funnel-shaped cloud that rips apart trees and buildings, sucking them into the sky. The most powerful ones can have windspeeds in excess of 300mph, and they'll rip the soil from the earth itself. Nobody survives a direct hit from one of those."

Kyla and Cylia both stare at you in dumbfounded shock for over a minute. The look in your eyes and on your face tells them you're not joking.

"How? How do you live there? And why? Isn't there somewhere safer?"

"We live there because that's where our families lived. We stay because it's normal to us. A risk that we accept as part of our lives. After all, what are we supposed to do about it? You can't stop nature."

"How many people do you lose to to your weather every year?"

"Couple dozen from tornadoes every year. With earthquakes, it depends. Sometimes a few hundred, sometimes a few thousand... sometimes hundreds of thousands."

"What...?"

"How can hundreds of thousands of humans die in a single year from earthquakes?"

"It's usually a single earthquake, or a series of them. My world isn't equally developed all over, you see. Some places, like my home country, are capable of "space travel", but others are full of people who live in houses made of stick and mud, who don't even know how to read. And if they live on or near the coast, well..."

"Tsunamis... The Caithan homeworld has little land, mostly desert, but a lot of that lies below sea level. Our ancestors built artificial mountains to block off the sea, but there are stories of great floods that sunk our ancestral lands entirely... "
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>>4867099
We should tell them about Godzilla, just for safe measures.
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>>4867099
we should tell them about the cold war
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>>4867099
I think they need to hear about our greatest natural calamity, mosquitos.
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>>4867147
fuck i just remembered the story where a bunch of iraqi tropes surrendered to uss Wisconsin drone
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>>4867111
>>4867147
>>4867149
>>4867151
Nonono, we should tell them about the deep ocean next. All immensely fucked up, and all true.
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>>4867147
A concept so insane even we call it MAD.
Safved us from a world war though, so that is cool.
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>>4867099
We should stop telling stories and start learning about their cultures and hobbies. i now it's HFY, but I'd hate to think humanity are the galaxy's worst conversational partners.
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>>4867219
If it's stupid and it works, it's not stupid.
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>>4867219
Not really. Like all things it turns out to be capitalism gone wrong. Some US businessmen wanted to sell the US lots of nukes, so they told the US that Russia was totally making tons of nukes and they needed lots of nukes. Then Russia reacted to the US making tons of nukes to stop the nukes that Russia didn't have yet.
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>>4867230
>Like all things it turns out to be capitalism gone wrong.
Wanna go for a free ride in my chopper?
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>>4867255
Giving away free stuff? Sounds communist. I'm going to have to kill you instead.
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>>4867255
Wait do you mean your whirlybird, hog, or neighbor-waking-gardening-device?
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>>4867303
Those are not free candies. They are rewards for hard working heroes braving the terrors of the doctor's office!
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>>4867311
That's called nerve damage, chief.
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>>4867332
That's called emotionerve damage, chief.
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>>4867338
Trying to turn away all coolly?
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>>4867303
Dentists do it to give kids more cavities so they come back and pay for more dental work.
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>>4867355
I gotta say, nothing like a good ol' shape shifter to keep you on your toes, amirite fellas?
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>>4867548
That gives me a good idea.
We should tell them about The Thing, but instead we replace Kurt Russel's character with ourself.
Then we keep the ending super vague and heavily imply we may have been replaced by a flesh monster.
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>>4867548
>1 post by this id
>relating to the group
>speaking of regular human anatomy to reinforce their human-ness
It's a fucking mimic god fucking damn it. I'm getting the rake
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>>4867568
We should save it for a particularly slow night on the ship I feel. After we've gotten to know each other a little better.
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>>4867563
Support
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>>4867569
>tfw once a month we have scary story night
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>>4867563
>>4867568
>wanting or crew to distrust us
We've already suspended their disbelief, let's not push them into paranoia.
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>>4867622
Hey paranoia is pretty great. It's kept me from getting got by the skinwalkers out in the desert.
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>>4867747
>to sell more rocket fuel
Pft, no one's that stupid. It was faked to sell more electronics.
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>>4867747
Hey im ignorant on the subject too, but could you tell us what caused the immense development of atomic weapons? Just curious.
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>>4867564

I wouldn't worry about shapeshifters, Anon. Haha!
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>>4867563
Well I mean sure but the story of The Thing is pretty lacklustre when told through words rather than a visual medium.
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>>4867099

"I'm sorry to hear about that, Cylia. It sounds a lot like what earth is going through right now."

"It's happening on earth too?"

"Kind of. I don't know if it's that extreme. See, we've been digging up billion year old coal... er, carbon deposits and burning them for fuel, releasing all that into the air as carbon dioxide, which traps heat from our sun and warms up the whole planet. More energy in the system means worse weather, so all that stuff i talked about before, well, except the earthquakes, it's getting worse."

"I see. So the change wasn't noticed until it was already too late?"

"Oh, no. We noticed. In fact we're still doing it right now. Me personally, i'm a big advocate for nuclear power instead. It's safe as long as you don't fucking cheap out."

"...What do you mean "Nuclear" power?"

"Meaning you take some unstable elemental metals, purify them into a big enough lump that they start heating up from their own internal radiation, then poke at it to make it angry so it gives off more heat. Then you just capture that heat and use it to generate energy! It's way, way more efficient than burning carbon for power, but people are afraid of it because there have been a few... accidents."

"Don't tell me. I don't want to imagine what you idiots might have done with something that dangerous."

"The core melted and exploded. It went everywhere. We can never go back there."

"Noooooooo! Why?! WHY WOULD YOU PLAY WITH RADIATION?!"

"We weren't playing with it! We just didn't know what the hell we were doing, it was the 80's man!"

"It's not worth it! Radiation kills you instantly, there's no way to safely handle it!"

"Oh come on, now you're just being hyperbolic. ...Wait, you are, right? Radiation doesn't kill humans instantly, even in super high doses."

"It does! Or, it should...! I don't think i've ever heard of a race that was immune to radiation!"

"Well, we're not immune. If we receive a big dose we get really sick, and even if we recover there's an increased chance of cancer due to the damage to our cells. But if the dose is too high, all of our DNA is destroyed and we die a slow, agonizing death while our cells die of old age and don't get replaced. Basically we just melt while still alive over the course of a few weeks."

"That's horrific! How could that possibly be a good thing?! Why would you evolve to do that?!"

"Because it gives us a chance, i guess? I dunno, it would have gone back all the way to the oldest organisms on earth. Maybe we just have a lot of radiation there."

"Uhg, i think i'm gonna be sick... i don't even want to imagine something like that."

Kyla seems to disagree. You can see her beaming from here.

"Woah, that's amazing! You're a total FREAK! It's already weird that you can survive in such a wide temperature range, but now you're radiation resistant as well?!"

"Heh, yeah. We're tenacious little bastards. You want to hear about this little critter called a cockroach?"

"A what now?"
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>>4867942
HUMANS tough as nails and even crazyer
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>>4867942
>"Nooooooo! You can't just play around with Radiation!"
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>>4868019
haha nukes go boom
on a more serious note if humans get into the wider universe sooo many aliens are going to shit their pants
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>>4868041
You know very well the Space Council is going to abduct them in and the cucks in the government will accept.
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>>4868041
You know heavyworlders like us (based on the total weight-to-fuel weight ratio required for hydrogen fuel rockets to escape the gravity well) should theoretically have significantly higher tech levels in quite a lot of stuff than surrounding aliens when we hit interstellar travel. In comparison to lightworlder neighbors our technologies are most likely to shine in terms of efficiency and longevity, as any heavyworlders are going to burn through their planet's natural resources and tolerance for waste products/waste heat before they get off planet for the easier resources and solutions that can be had in space. The next most likely exceptional aspect will be reliability, as technologies designed for use in and escape from a heavyworld gravity well will obviously need to be vastly more robust in the first place. Redundancy is also probably not very common except in heavyworlder tech, as it seems like most environments are forgiving enough that the consequences of failure in a major system might not need immediate resumption of function in order to avoid catastrophic doom.

I'm surprised this stuff hasn't come up yet, but I suppose we haven't delved into the first-contacts with other heavyworld apex predator species yet either.
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>>4867563
>>4867564
Why am I getting (You)s, I don't remember posting anything...

>>4867942
Ooo! Ooo! Tell em' about the Tardigrades! And the Tardigrade gun!
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>>4868103
Tardigrades are probably all over the galaxy though.
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So anons, what's the verdict on finding an abandoned superfreighter and turning it into a warship?
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>>4867942
QM I gotta say, your quest is pretty fun.
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why are desert cats such a common denominator for most furry roleplay settings?
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>>4868120
I think we all agreed it's something we should do at some point.
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>>4867942
If Kyla was a biologist instead of an engineer she'd be demanding tissue samples and full-body examinations. What a chipper lass she is.
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>>4868120
It's fine, but so far distant that it's not really worth thinking about right now. Maybe once we have a few tens of millions in the ship pot.
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>>4868120
YES
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>>4867942
its been a while since I read a classic HFY stories im surprised this gets so well recieved in 4chan of all places
so QM you gonna have different races thats like vaguely humanoid at least to have a chance to join the crew? for a severe teratophiliac anon such as myself?
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>>4868154
Read the old thread nigger. We got catgirl and gobbo.
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>>4868139
That's why we upcycle, anon. Easier to refurbish than to buy new.
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>>4868164
not that anime catgirl and some fucking shortstack green gob
when i say vaguely I fucking mean it my teratophilia is severe anon
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>>4868172
Use english, I don't know what that means.
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>>4868172
There was a floating gasbag-octopus thing a while back, but they were both a dude and if I remember correctly, a wimp.
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>>4868177
Not that anon here, but the "-philia" subfix means attracted to, and the "terato-" prefix means "relating to monsters or abnormal forms"

So it means "attracted to monsters or abnormal forms."

Most fancy Greco-Latin words function like this, and if you can figure out one part you can probably deduce the rest from context.
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>>4868185
Yo but what if home-boy don't speaka da proto-meatball or pre-economic-collpase?
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>>4868191
Then just use google. Either on a case by case basis, or, if you wanna eddicate yerself, to look up a list of common prefixes and suffixes.
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>>4868202
>he thinks some niggas are on here to brush up on their language homework
sssssshhhhhhhiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii et man if he was gonna do all that shit he wouldn't've asked.
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>>4868154
>>4868172

I have some character ideas swimming around.
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>>4868210
Does it involve a gatling phaser?
Say did we find any phasers off the thugs we mobbed up for food muny?
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>>4868211
Nope. Most people don't have phasers, even in the underground.
Most people are herbivores, and most of them prefer to run rather than fight.

It's mainly the more aggressive species that want to take up a weapon, even in defense.
Instead, they'll do anything they can do avoid putting themselves in that situation in the first place.

Bullying is an effective tactic against them. You don't even need a weapon.
It's because a lot of them come from worlds where competitive evolution isn't a thing
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>>4868216
Bullshit. We can bully them with phasers. Set them to their lowest setting and shoot them with a fully automatic equivalent of a BB-Gun. The ones with the big solid slugs.
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>>4868219
>not just carrying a second belt with you everywhere you go with the explicit purpose of slapping people with it
Slippers, wooden spoons, switches, and extension cables are also valid choices. Anything that brings up childhood ass-beating memories.
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>>4868219
We are going for the Gatling laser for the sole reason being that we can have a Gatling laser
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>>4868177
ah god fucking dammit I dont even have that xeno scale and I have to fucking explain this clueless anon
what i meant by "vaguely humanoid" what I actually meant is that shit like viper from xcom, sanghelli and jackals from halo and that one species turian in mass effect
Have you ever played teraurge anon? cause thats the shit is what im talking about im talking the three and beyond from the 1-5 of alien fucker scale I dont care its some furry/scalie shit or a robot as its not a human in a cosplay even though they're weak as this is HFY after all
>>4868210
cheers QM
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>>4868226
Ah, but what kind of gatling laser? The fallout kind? Some other kind? Literally just a gatling gun but instead of bullets it's phasers?
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>>4868240
Well per the discussion last thread it'll be a Doom gatling style except where each barrel would be on the Doom gatling gun we'd have a rotary array of 3 phasers I think.

Made easily possible due to phasers using buttons to fire rather than triggers.
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>>4868226
Fuck yeah, we need a ghetto rig it like some Fallout Gatling Laser.
>>4868240
Fallout Lasers seem pretty perfect for effective but chunky design that shall be forever known as human.
>>4868231
Just say you want to fuck non humans, save that fancy talk for names for our guns. Our our dick.
>Those races
Excellent tastes, damn shame there is so little Sanghelli that isn't futa trash or looks like shit.
>>4868210
Based QM telling the anti human trannies to bite it. And if we're allowed to post species pics for ideas. I got some.
>>4868247
That is also a perfect choice.
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>>4868251
Sure, go ahead.
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>>4868120
so distant in years that I am ambivalent to the idea
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>>4868210
>swimming
*shivers*
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>>4868254
Then allow me. Just say when.
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>>4868263
wtf is this pink slut. Is that semen dripping from her hand? baka
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>>4868251
At this point we may as well just make Boltguns. We are technically a Space Marine after all
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>>4868254
she's perfect

>>4868263
fucking gross. look at that mutant.
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>>4868267
No, its acid lube.
>>4868269
Shit taste you subhuman filth.
>>4868268
Sounds like a reasonable escalation of our coming war crimes.
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>>4868274
try and keep it PG chief
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>>4868271
>>4868274
good god anon be careful. This is a blue board.
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I had the bright idea of looking through pixiv of all places for an alien-race illustration. It's been half and hour and I am yet to be able to find something that doesn't scream "I want to fuck this"
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>>4868278
That is PG. Just close. No one complains and no one cares, means no problem
>>4868274
>>4868282
Shut the fuck up pussy, boards post worse, so stop drawing attention.
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>>4868283
And? I fail to see the problem.
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>>4868274
i'm with OP on that one, keep it PG, thi is nither /b/ nor /d/
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>>4868287
You don't need to fuck everything out there. Some things are just plain ugly.
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I found one. Pigbro. Resilient motherfucker
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I'm liking this quest, OP. Maybe a little too on the nose for me at points, but it's definitely fun, and you seem engaged to it, so all the power to you. If anything, you keep up with your quest a lot better than most QM's who are starting out. Even better than some longer-running quests that can last for ages.

I'm not so much for the xenophilia like the other anons, not to the extreme anyway. Catgirl humanoids are about where I see the line, but I can look past what the other anons are going for. Just be careful when it comes to that stuff, because it can spark some nasty flame-wars. Doing romance or relations in popular quests requires a lot of skill and thought. Not least because you want to keep everyone cool. Anyway, that's just a bit of a forewarning. Don't take it as me trying to sway you or inject an opinion.

Hopefully your quest can live long and prosper. Have an HFY image.
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>>4868285
Noble Ducks then?
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Flybro. Mystery motherfucker
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Has the first quest been archived?
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>>4868300
Yup
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Galactic federation envoy motherfucker. Has a vendetta or smt
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>>4868300
Ye
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inb4 humanity becomes the space IRS due to it's sheer insanity
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>>4868321
Wait, that aint the pic I clicked.
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>>4868326
Sure it isn't. Suuuuure.
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>>4868331
Hey, sometimes my stuff loads slowly, and by the time it pops up, the screen closes before it confirms its what I wanted. Whatever though. New pet idea if we find it.
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>>4868336
d'aaaaaaaaaaaaw that's so cute, i want to pet it
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>>4868336
Oh yeah, sorry about it being more medieval stuff, less space pics than I thought.
>>4868337
It will nibble you. NOW MUSHROOMS
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>>4868342
My connection is going to shit, and posting is becoming difficult with captcha refusing to connect. So I'll leave it here.
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>>4868370
What a shame.
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>>4868263
If she leaks a dangerous acid by alien standards.. does she taste like lemonade?
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>>4868489
No, it's dangerous by our standards. Like, melt through plastic dangerous. Also, she's not an alien. I, as a weeb, know that she is part of the supporting cast for My Hero Academia, and she can produce acid of varying viscosities and ph levels.

She does like the Alien moves though, if that counts for anything.
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>>4868501
I meant within the current setting of the quest.
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>>4868518
The first mistake you made was talking about someone's waifu.
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>>4868532
Her mom is hotter and I say that as a person who only saw a panel of her falling to her death on a random thread.
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>>4867942

You talk with eachother for quite some time about eachother's homeworlds, traditions and standards. Mostly about yours, honestly, as they're by far the most interesting, but eventually you get a notification that it's time to go.
The Sadia Corporation ship is about to leave port, and for the first time you also break free of the station and start heading off into deep space.
The autopilot takes care of most everything, including following the transport ship's spacial wake, effectively dragging you along as they enter slipspace.

"Wow! That's a damn good autopilot! These greys really know what they're doing."

"Thank you, miss Kyla. I have been programmed to perform a number of tasks typically set upon lesser artificial intelligences, but i am quite proud of my ability."

"I've been meaning to say this, but your ship's AI seems really... fluent."

"Are they not supposed to be?"

"Not at all, no. She seems so lifelike, i'm not really sure how to feel about it."

"I've just been counting myself lucky this whole time. If she's smarter then that's better, am i wrong?"

"Not always..."

"Captain, i am detecting an interdiction. The slipspace sheath is collapsing, you should prepare for combat."

"Damn, seriously?! He didn't wait for long, did he?"

"It's alright, Cap'n. The stealth field aught to hold up just fine. Now it's just a matter of slipping in..."

"And that's where i come in. Alright, i'm headed to the cockpit. Kyla, get your suit on and get ready. Cylia, wait by the docking port. I'll meet you there when it's time."

You sit down heavily in the undersized pilot's seat and order the computer to hand over manual control. You feel the ship lurch once as you fall out of slipspace, and then once again as the controls unlock.
The transport ship in front of you is still there, but you don't see the other guy just yet... ah! There he is! Appearing in a streak of bright blue light, the pirate vessel appears before you out of nowhere.
He immediately begins firing on them, but their shields are holding for the moment. In the meantime, you move to slip in behind him and get inside his shield bubble unnoticed.

>Roll 1d100, best of 3
>DC60
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Rolled 20 (1d100)

>>4868573
oh dear
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Rolled 37 (1d100)

>>4868573
Time for my cursed dice rolls to happen
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Rolled 25 (1d100)

>>4868573
Yeet
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>>4868576
>>4868591
>>4868594
FUCK YOU DIIIIIIICE!
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>>4868576
>>4868591
>>4868594
OOF!
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Rolled 23 (1d100)

>>4868573
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>>4868576
>>4868591
>>4868594
ofc this happens
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>>4868606
Really?! EVERYONE HERE RIGHT NOW ROLL, FIND THE NON CURSED ROLLERS!
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>>4868576
>>4868591
>>4868594

Grabbing the control, you move towards the back of Laggard's ship... entirely too quickly. The ship feels almost like a mouse that's been set to high sensitivity, and it's just way more than you were expecting.
You manage to jerk the ship to the side at the last moment, only grazing his shield with your own. The gravity generator is overwhelmed by the shock and you feel the inertia of the impact, just a bit.
Kyla comes over the radio at that moment.

"What the hell was that, Dave?!"

"Not now, busy!"

Laggart's ship almost immediately takes off vertically, again with surprising speed. His ship is smaller than yours, but more heavily armored. You didn't expect it to be quite this quick.

"You two better hold on to something, because this is gonna be bumpy!"

Since your ambush failed, all you can do is gun him down without being gunned down. His lasers all face forwards, so you just have to stay at his back. Easier said than done.
He keeps juking and jiving to keep you from getting behind him. He's pretty good!

But you can tell, you could push your ship a lot harder than this. And now you're starting to get used to the controls.

>Just stay out of his sights and lay down continuous fire, wear his shields down slowly
>Get fancy, try and get some practice in
>Hail him and demand surrender
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Rolled 40 (1d100)

>>4868576
>>4868591
>>4868594
You shittin me? Roll like this next time.

>>4868622
>>Get fancy, try and get some practice in
He'll just bounce if he has enough time to realize the zone is too hot.
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>>4868622
>Get fancy, try and get some practice in
>"ALL HANDS! BRACE FOR EVASIVE MANUEVERS!"
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Rolled 54 (1d100)

>>4868622
>>Get fancy, try and get some practice in
Wonder how human reaction times stack up to other species, or how good his ship AI is at handling non-standard maneuvers.
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>>4868622
>>Get fancy, try and get some practice in
if we confuse the fuck out of him we can get in close
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>>4868637
ah, yes the marine approach to be retarded
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>>4868640
You say that in jest, but in reality...
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>>4868647
I KNOW
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>>4868637
support
He can't handle Crayon munching tactics
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>>4868622
>Get fancy, try and get some practice in
Cylia is going to pass out so hard... I hope blood doesn't just start pouring from every hole available
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>>4868737
We could lower the g rating in the rest of the ship in order to lessen the amount of Gs she'd going to feel from us doing videogame maneuvers.
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>>4868744
wouldn't that have her behaving like a pinball? ouch
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>>4868807
Better have an eight point harness on.
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Hope we played a decent amount of DCS.
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>>4868870
Obviously David is an Ace Combat chad.
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>>4868902
David is uniquely prepared in having played DCS, Ace Combat and Kerbal Space Program extensively.
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>>4868909
>not solely playing microsoft flight sim
>the excel version from 98
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>>4867942
The funny thing is basically humans are one of the LEAST radiation prof species on earth
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>>4868909
hold on, that means david had a somewhat new pc at least in 2015 and was active in internet stuff!?
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>>4868914
David grew up poor in a remote rural area. He didn't have dial up until 2003.

>>4868918
Yep. He's exclusively a pc gamer, and built his own rig. He's tech literate and internet savvy.
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>>4868925
>He didn't have dial up until 2003.
Wouldn't he have been enlisted by that point?
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>>4868930
Yep. That was the first time he used a computer.
Not counting oldschool consoles.
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>>4868932
but can it play D00M?
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>>4868909
>>4868902
>david doing a psm drift and confusing the fuck out of Laggard to how the fuck we are keeping up with him
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>>4868932
wait does he know how to emulate games like the older video games
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>>4868933
>>4868932
also can the ship run doom
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>>4868938
He emulates pokemon on his phone, because he hates mobile games. And advertisements in general.

>>4868943
It is.
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>>4868946
>he hates mobile games. And advertisements in general.

>[angry chinese chittering]
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>>4868946
>>4868943
Could we, theoretically, download doom onto the ship for everyone to play?
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>>4869028
i wonder if its possible run doom on a fighter jet
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>>4869028
and id released the games source code so yeah
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>>4869028
>>4869032
>>4869035
....what are their reactions going to be to the Demon's of Hell, and the unceasing wrath of Doom Guy? Does the new Doom games come out in this timeline? What about Devil May Cry 5?
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Anons may i make a proposal for some space combat vehicles...
mobile suits
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>>4869054
>spoiler
This is my favorite Gundam. :^)
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>>4869054
Good taste, excellent really. However, may I present my rebuttal. The Big O.
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>>4869064
It is very nice looking
But the zeon MS always got that place in my heart
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>>4869064
It's showtime.
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>>4869072
How about Armored Core?
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>>4869076
Speaking of.
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>>4869082
Preety neat, a bit iffy on the skiny ass torso, i kinda like my chunky MS
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>>4869087
>I'll stay my hounds with you, Brad.
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>>4869090
I remember Build Fighters, we're not taking an Acguy to space.
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>>4869054
NO ZAKU
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>>4869087
It is pretty difficult to find good pics for aliens that aren't cool monsters.
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>>4869090
Allow me to posit an alternative.
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>>4869090
Chunk, why didn't you say so?
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>>4869103
Or waifus for that matter.
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>>4869119
Have a Kung Fu mouse, I am gonna need to go searching for more.
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>>4869130
Oh yeah, I wonder if Martial Arts are even a thing out in space.
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>>4869103
The problem I have with searching for aliurms is that it is 70% "anthropomorphized animal" 20% "this thing is literally a nightmare I had while on ketamine" 9% "nondescript bundle of fluff" and 1% "actual interesting concept of life under different circumstances".

I don't count the "literally human BUT" aliurms.
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>>4869139
True, my waifuians are vast, but you people bitch about camel toe, so that leaves my eldritch horrors.
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>>4869131
>Tfw we get to be Fist of the North Star in space
Also found a Isabelle pic none of you can bitch about.
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>>4869255
....why are you existing? Not for the furry thing, but in general.
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>>4869263
Hmmm...fair enough.
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>>4868622
>>Get fancy, try and get some practice in
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>>4868622
https://youtu.be/mjY6awCr2_c
>Get fancy, try and get some practice in
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>>4868254
Disgusting.
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Not a gundam. But I feel this is a worthy contestant, after all, can't get more american than this.
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>>4869473
To this day I am bitter that that show was killed off so quickly.
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>>4869479
worst part is the IRS owns mega XLR now
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>>4866191
AWOOOOGA AWWWOOOOOGA IS THAT A SHORT STACK GOBLIN???? SIGN ME THE FUCK UP
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>>4869500
Wait what, how the fuck did they get it?!
>>4869479
Think Anon, think. What kind of shit has Cartoon Network been pumping out for kids these days? You think Megas is allowed?
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>>4869758
Garbage?
Also, we figure out what we are spending the bounty on if we complete it? I was thinking we upgun our ship to include some 20-30mm cannons.
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>>4869082
>>4869072
>>4869064
If David builds a gundam, it'll be an Alaya-vijnana type. It's the only sort that would suit him.
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>>4868625
>>4868630
>>4868633
>>4868637
>>4868737
>>4869065

"Computer! Focus the gravity field on Cylia and Kyla! Inertial dampening only!"

"Captain, i cannot recommen-"

"THAT IS AN ORDER!"

You immediately feel the gravity shut off, followed by the inertia from your own ship's movements. You can actually feel the feedback from your inputs now!
The g-force is enough to force you down into your seat, hard. It feels amazing! This is it, this is what you always imagined space combat being like!
You grab the control stick and blast forward, swinging around to get behind him and launching a barrage of laser fire.

His shields dim and flicker, but don't go down.
The pirate ship spins in place to face you directly, and you move before it can fire.
You see his laser cannons light up, but they miss you entirely. There's a slight delay between lock-on and firing, and it has trouble even locking on if your movements are erratic enough.

But then, the pirate ship's movements change dramatically.
The simple, almost robotic movements from before are gone. Now his ship almost seems to flow through space with gentle, gliding movements.

"I guess you took over, huh Laggard? Computer, re-engage the stealth field and enter silent running. Maintain full reactor power, this ain't over yet!"

Your cockpit's dim red light is replaced with the cool blue light indicative of the stealth field's activation. The temperature inside the ship immediately jumps by ten degrees or so as you enter silent running mode, despite being in the middle of combat.

Laggard clearly loses sight of you and you take advantage of it, accelerating rapidly and hitting him from all directions. He's doing his best to evade, but he can't see you to make a judgement either.
You get at least a dozen clean shots on him before his shields crumble, and now all that's left is to hit his main engines!
But it's getting hot in here fast, so you'd better take care of it quickly.

>Roll 1d100, best of 3
>DC40
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Rolled 76 (1d100)

>>4869806
nat 1 here I come
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Rolled 41 (1d100)

>>4869806
no whammies
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Rolled 38 (1d100)

>>4869806
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Rolled 44 (1d100)

>>4869806
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>>4869815
>>4869816
>>4869817
Why are all your rolls so shit?
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>>4869822
cursed quest
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>>4869822
Hey, I still passed the DC. It's not shit if it works.
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>>4869809

Laggard turns and start to make a maneuver towards the cargo ship, but it's too late for that.
You line yourself up directly with his main thruster and manually control the laser turret with your left hand, firing straight down the center of the nozzle.

There's a flash of light and a burst of gas as his fuel tanks rupture, and the engine nozzles are destroyed with them.
The ship starts drifting uncontrolled. Without any gas, his RCS thrusters aren't functional. Those laser cannons are still active though, so you're careful to avoid them.

"Alright, deactivate the stealth field and start dumping heat. I'm boiling in here."

"Affirmative, Captain."

About that time, Cylia bursts into the cockpit, followed shortly by Kyla who's half-in half-out of her undersized space suit.
Both of them yell in unison.

"WHAT THE HELL IS HAPPENING?!"

"Woah, woah! Calm down! I took care of it."

"What is "it" exactly?! The plan! What happened to the plan?!"

"It's still on, there was just a little hiccup. Kyla, i'm gonna come up beside him now so hurry up and get dressed."

"What the hell were you doing in here? It's like a million degrees, i thought something was on fire!"

"Kyla? The plan. His thrusters are down."

"Ah, fine! But we're having a talk about this later!"

Kyla walks off, clearly dripping with sweat. Cylia on the other hand isn't sweating much, but you can see and hear her panting heavily. It's definitely hot, but your crewmates don't seem to be able to stand it very well. It's only been a few minutes.

"Did... hah... did he give you a lot of trouble?"

"Not really. His shields were a pain with only one laser, but since his ship is mostly intact, i don't think that'll be a problem in the future."

"Huh? What, are you... are you going to strip down his ship... for parts?"

Cylia has to take a moment to sit down and catch her breath.

"Yeah, i'm gonna take what i can and sell the rest. Hey computer, how's that heat dump going?"

"Heatsinks are fully saturated, Captain. I'm afraid it will take some time to remove the heat buildup."

"Man, what a hunk of junk. That's gonna need fixed, too."

"Captain, the heat buildup was caused by pushing the ship beyond it's design specifications, in combination with activating cold running mode mid-combat. The ship is not to blame."

"Nobody asked, computer! This design is shit, and i'm not happy with it! It's getting some upgrades as soon as we get back to port!"

"Understood, Captain."

"Good. Now adjust atmospheric humidity to 0%. Cylia, go get some water from the mess room and cool off."

It's not long before you hear Kyla over the radio. She's at Laggard's docking port, but he seems to have locked out the controls. That doesn't stop her for long.

"Alright, i'm almost through! You're gonna have to force open the inner door somehow, but the docking mechanism should engage automatically."

"Thanks. I think i'm gonna head in on my own, so take care of the ship while i take care of him."

"Roger Roger!"
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Thank you QM so much for addressing the laws of thermodynamics unlike many space opera sci-fis.
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Let's gooooo we actually did it, fuck your rolls tho holy shit
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>>4869834
Breach and clear time
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>>4869834
I fucking swear. I bet hes human.
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>>4869974
Nah man, the gentle gliding piloting is clearly indicative of an avian or aquatic species.
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>>4869987
Space squid husbando time. Oh and he's gonna end up dead when he inevitably won't stop wet noodle slapping us.
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Instead of faggy heatsinks, could we strap on some radiators positioned to mimic awesome wings? They'd still be rectangles and the position wouldn't be advantageous, but it wouldn't hurt us either and would look fucking great
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>>4869987
Doesn’t matter he is probably going to be dead when the corporate bastards get ahold of him,
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>>4870094
David is planning a more "active" cooling solution.
That is, dump the excess heat into some water, then spray it out the side of the ship as steam.
Yes, you can only dump so much heat that way before you're out of water, but you can also do it very quickly, and even use the high-pressure steam to generate extra thrust.

Your ship currently has issues with waste heat management because it's completely coated in anti-laser armor, meaning that it can't dissipate heat through the hull and has to use radiator fins.
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>>4870119
>tfw pissing steam into space to jink
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>>4870119
Proportionally, how big are the fins? How are they shaped? Where are they positioned?
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>>4870132
They're long, continuous fins that run the length of the ship's belly. They stick out past the armor by about a foot and glow red hot when dumping heat.
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>>4869758
Remember that movie where two guys are trying to fail in order to profit and make a play called "Springtime with Hitler?"
It's sorta like that. If I remember right, Cartoon Network tossed megas under the bus because they needed to pretend/sabotage a few of their IPs into failures as a convoluted method for profit.
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>>4870156
Make shifting fun plates so it can vent into space.
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>>4870119
Is there an equivalent of he Nestle overlords in space? Otherwise water is super easy to get mass quantities of in space. I think there's even a giant blob of water thousands of light years wide orbiting a black hole and surrounded by lightning floating about somewhere if i recall my random astronomy facts right.
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>>4870176
Anything you can dig out of the ground is next to worthless in space. It's the knowledge of how to make something and the ability to enact that knowledge that's valuable.
Of course, that also means that certain copyrighted materials are extremely valuable.

It's also why nanofabs are relatively expensive.
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>>4870176
>the biggest water balloon held together by a black hole and thor's farts

Absolutely rad.
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>>4870176
Blob implies it's in a liquid state, and I doubt that. There are plenty of H2O dense nebulae around though.
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>>4869758
mega XLR was written as a tax loss
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>>4870092
>Gays begone
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>>4870160
And now the degenerates that gave that idea push pedophilia and being trannys on kids. Great.
>>4870218
Fuck them. With a brick. Wrapped in sandpaper. And a lemon lime lube.
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>>4870119
Wouldn't the steam give away our position, since it's for the stealth system?
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>>4870224
It would give off a massive heat signature while active.
But it would also allow you to cool the ship quickly even mid-battle, then jump back into stealth.
It would also extend how long you could operate the ship out of spec for.

When you enter stealth mode/silent running, the ship holds in all of it's heat and reactor signatures to become completely black on scanners, as if nothing was there.
No generated heat or energy escapes.

You could still look out the window and see it, but it's invisible to the scanners that everyone uses. Nobody's looking for ships using radar or visible light.
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>>4870246
>nobody's looking for ships with radar
I can understand not using visible light, but come on, aliens.
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>>4870219
>he won't let his hentai fantasies come true
lel what a fag
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>>4870249

They've found better ways to scan for things and moved on.
Even scanning for heat signatures is more of a secondary thing, in case they've got a stealth field like yours.
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>>4870246
>When you enter stealth mode/silent running, the ship holds in all of it's heat and reactor signatures to become completely black on scanners, as if nothing was there.
Now I'm regretting we didn't call our ship Normandy
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>>4870249
I say we install some good ol earth radar systems into our ship just in case we find someone using our stealth tactics. Or we find Grey ships.
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>>4870254
You ALWAYS keep a backup. Sure, we have radar on ships now, but we can still id using visuals if we need to.
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>>4870256
They would have no fucking clue how you can see them.
Radio waves and microwaves are low energy enough that they just pass right through shields. It's not something that gets blocked except in dangerous amounts.
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>>4870252
Hentai is for banging girls, gay shit is called something that starts with Y, like, y are you even alive.
>>4870255
We are not going to be as nice as Shepard, and the CCP exists on earth still, and jews. that isn't good.
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>>4870264
Thermal scanners are the backup. Ships are mainly tracked using the unique subspace signatures put out by devices that use dark matter/dark energy, like the slipspace drive and frame shift drive.
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>>4870265
Only more reason to add one in
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>>4870273
Neat, so if they didn't use thermals for backups they wouldn't detect chemical rockets at all.
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>>4870273
So radar just never comes up, we shall be a phantom ship.
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>>4870273
So how good are these thermal scanners if they're only backups then? Particularly when they're being used at combat ranges (I assume they've got various sensitivity settings). Would thermal chaff be able to blind them? Then again, I guess our water-based heat dumps would essentially be thermal chaff.
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>>4870291
They're fairly high resolution and sensitivity.
Thermal chaff would be a nightmare for them.
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>>4870256
These are things with FTL. Radar feels unreliable when it comes to tracking and can give away our position. Maybe if we had a drop drone that broadcasts radar information we can decipher?
Eg. Dump a mini ship/drone that drops off more radar mines and feeds back semi encrypted information about the general area. We actually have stealth measures against our own tech and don't get noticed. Bonus points for making it look like they're thermal detectors that happen to make radio waves as a byproduct so that no aliens can figure out what we're doing easily?
>>4870291
I'm not sure how thermals in space would even work since there's almost nothing to transfer the heat. Space is a great insulator.
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>>4870306
>Space is a great insulator.
That's why it takes a long time to remove heat using heat fins, and why David is planning on using water instead.
It's also why thermal scanners tend to be really sensitive. One, because the signatures are usually rather small, and two, in order to try and detect people who are running cold.

Which fucks you over if someone sprays burning chaff all over the place.
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>>4870306
>I'm not sure how thermals in space would even work since there's almost nothing to transfer the heat. Space is a great insulator.
Bruh. I don't even know what to say. You just don't get it, but suffice to say they'd be exactly the same as used on modern aircraft and work fine.
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>>4870317
>Which fucks you over if someone sprays burning chaff all over the place.
Oh nowwwwwwwwww I get it.
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>>4870306
I feel like the mini drone thing will fuck us over but other then that how will radar give us away?
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>>4870269
>y are you even alive.
To spite you, homo.
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>>4870342
Your the one that likes dick though. You misspelled hetero.
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>>4870340
Well if sensors are tuned to the radar band then it's not hard to detect the emission source. If we don't take countermeasures like the anon described then we'd be relying on the Aliums not catching on to what we're doing in the slightest in order to avoid detection. Meanwhile his described methodology would enable us to get all the benefits of having active radar, while distracting the enemy with inconsequential targets and preserving our stealth by divorcing us from the units that are actually doing the scanning.
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>>4870354
Sure thing closet boy.
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>>4870360
If it helps then I am all for it I guess. We still need to bring him in alive for our grand prize of 50k which should buy us a lot of our equipment we want.
>>4870317
How much of a rep boost would we get from this mission? How infamous was our pirate friend in the area?
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>>4870409
To Sadia employees? Extremely infamous.
Regular people may or may not have heard something about him causing trouble.
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>>4870402
Deflect all you want stick licker, it doesn't change the volts on this electric chair.
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>>4870409
Eh, it's probably a lower priority to do that than it is to just get a radar rig at all. The aliens we've encountered so far haven't been very quick on the uptake.

It'll be interesting when we encounter proper military forces. OP has referenced how upstart predator species will occasionally flare wars...but they don't last long. The Galactic Feds are composed mainly of non-predator species. For all of our human advantages, it's not that hard to make machines that exceed our capabilities (except processing power) even with Earth-Modern tech. If heavyworlder tech tends to be more advanced in certain areas than 'standard galactic level' like I posited earlier in the thread then that's one thing, it means that predators are usually suppressed via sheer weight of numbers and economic resources. Not an unreasonable explanation at all.

On the other hand, it's also distinctly possible that proper military grade hardware and mil-spec combat robots are absolute beasts. Who cares if common armor is specced for anti-phaser rather than anti-projectile properties if there's a boarder drone with combat-AI that lets it process and react so fast that our bullets never hit it in the first place. Certainly the technological basis to create absolutely horrific death machines is here...it's just that the aliens we've encountered so far don't seem to have lost their naivete or experienced total war to make them think of such applications. Dealing with the Interstellar Government that's actually had to fight predator species that are presumably at least somewhat similar to our own culture that axiom will not necessarily still hold true.

Anyway, just musing while waiting on the OP. He's clearly got the internal logic of this sandbox well thought out and I'm looking forward to the assumptions he's made about such things.
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>>4870414
Boys, I've been thinking. What if we get back and use our newfound rep and fat stacks to buy some absolutely otherworldly (heh) ship upgrades and other goodies from Sadia Corp at a discount, and then use our upgraded ship to get further into "civilized" space and see what kinda jobs we can find?

This is meta as hell, but us rushing this guy kind of feels like skipping a tutorial area where you get some absolutely essential advice and weapons by heading directly for the boss. Idk, just a thought I had, since everything on that space stations seems peanuts to us. Might as well do nearly all of the jobs in like four days and get a good rep with Sadia/other merchants while we're at it.
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>>4870437
Yeah you would like for men to sit on you, huh?
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>>4870500
Well I'd say what benefits await us in civilized space? The closer we get to enforcers of galactic law the less our inherent benefits actually benefit us. Unless we go about starting a war to get employed in like other anons suggested, but that comes with its own problems. The most salient of which is probably that Kyla and Cylia signed up to be bounty hunters, not mercenary soldiers. There's a huge difference between hunting criminals down and participating in large scale conflict. Not that we couldn't carve out a good niche for ourselves, just we'd need to convince them we could before actually going and trying to do so.
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>>4870517
So do you prefer well done, crispy, or extra crispy?
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>>4870530
Oh so not only el faggoto but interracially inclined as well? You degenerate you!
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>>4870534
You can't hide degenerate, you love for dick means you can't hide.
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>>4870540
You can sense other men who love dick, huh?
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>>4870552
No, but I know the sight of asian's trying to hide from getting caught homo posting.
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>>4870540
You sure are interested in watching people who like cocks.
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>>4870493
Its best to get it ASAP
On the topic of military power, pretty sure OP said last thread that the majority of the Councils military power is drones or droids so clearly they are the CIS and we must make a clone army to destroy them.
>>4870518
I agree, the further into Fed space the worse it will be but it would be nice to look around though.
>>4870552
Does our computer know who the people on the United Council are and if so can we ask him? I kinda wanna get some more lore into the politics.
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>>4870571
>Does our computer know who the people on the United Council are?
nobody does
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>>4870574
I hope that this means that not even the people on the council know that they're on the council.

Like you wake up one day and, without knowing, you're now part of the council.
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So we are *this* close to successfully breach into the enemy ship. Could we please use something that doesn't put holes in the hull? We don't have an actual spacesuit for starters. We do have those cool personal shields however!!

I believe the pirates are gearing up already and they are bound to have some sort of gas mask plus suits, so the tear gas won't be super effective. UNLESS they don't expect chemical warfare. I think we are bound to rubber bullets... how about the russian shotgun with rubber pellets as the main weapon and a pistol with actual bullets as the sidearm?
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>>4870574
Oh boy so it’s one of those governments.
>>4870594
I thought Kyla was making a flash bang in the back?
If we have it I suggest throwing that in, otherwise it’s tear gas and the Beanbag round shotgun.
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>>4870601
It's a very old government that's had a lot of time to corrupt itself and secure it's own power.
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>>4870594
>>4870601
If I remember correctly we should have a pistol which doesn't put holes, or at least that was discussed in the first thread
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>>4870119
>Radiator fins in space

Uh... Short of removing heated matter, heat transfer in space is a BITCH. Fins are basically useless unless in a gas/liquid system.

All you have is transfering the heat into infrared radiation...


Wonder if it's possible to radiate out more powerful radiation....
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>>4870615
I mean, fins are the bog-standard heat radiation solution in space. I don't know what you mean by "unless in a gas/liquid system" but it seems pretty obvious there's a circulation system in place to pump the heat into the fins.It's a super advanced Grey ship, and even we earthlings do that.
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>>4870607
What is the highest position that has its owner known?
>>4870610
We have plastic bullets yes
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>>4870615
You ship has very efficient heat pumps, but yes, it's not an ideal system.
The main upside is that it doesn't require any extra resources or moving parts, just energy.

>>4870632
That would be the high senate, which has one representative member from every major race.
There are higher authorities, but their identities, their numbers and the power they hold are all unknown.
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>>4870644
What was the largest anti Council rebellion/war and how long ago was it? Last question I promise
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>>4870318
Yeah, haha...vacuums are a perfect insulator when it comes to convection and conduction, so the only way to cool an object in space would be through radiation.
And cooling via radiation is an incredibly slow son of a bitch compared to convection and conduction.
The best bet to cool it quickly is to somehow get all that thermal energy to radiate away very quickly at once. Maybe with some kind of """death ray""", but you'd be a madman to do that, surely.
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>>4870644
What's the general shape of our ship? Plane-like, forward-sweeping mandible pancake, or a nice needle with radiator fins?
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You flip the switch on your personal shield and feel every hair on your body raise as the energy field rolls over you.
Something about it is oddly uncomfortable, but you're not worried about that right now.

Kyla stand at the entrance to the docking port, struggling to strip out of her sweaty space suit.

"It's all yours, cap'n! Just... gah! Gotta get this damn thing off!"

You wave her off and get ready. Your ship's interior door slides open, and you see the cut-open outer door of the opponent's ship.
Just as you're about to go, Cylia grabs your shoulder.

"Hold on, where are you going?"

"I'm going to go capture my bounty."

"Without me?"

"You're overheated. Don't worry about it, i'll still split the pay."

She seems like she's about to object, but stops after seeing the look in your eyes.

"...Alright. Think you can take him?"

"We'll see."

You've only got your 1911 with you. Any of your other weapons could depressurize the ship.
If it's not enough, you left the KS-23 with Cylia. She can probably use it without breaking any bones, you think.
You don't bother trying to talk with Laggard over comms. Instead, you kick the door hard. The metal is thin, and you rip it out of it's housing in three or four kicks.

"Holy shit!"

You can't even really hear Kyla's comment. Instead, you're busy sweeping the room. Nobody here that you can see. Interior lights are off, but the dim emergency lights are still active.
Room by room, you clear the whole ship until there's only one place left. The cockpit.
The door is locked, and you don't hear anyone inside. But you know he's in there. You can feel it.

"Come out peacefully, Laggard. I'm only gonna tell you once."

There's a pause, but he does respond.

"Fuck you, piece of shit Sadia merc! If you want me then come and get some! I'll fucking show you what i'm made of!"

Alright, so that's how he wants it.
You kick the cockpit door with everything you've got, blowing it clear out of the housing and sending it flying across the room.
Laggard responds by firing his phaser into the door frame, taking a gouge out of it and spraying a bit of hot metal onto you. No harm done.

Instead of rushing in, you pull the pin on Kyla's little surprise, then toss it into the room.
Laggard makes the mistake of shooting at it, detonating it early. There's a loud bang and a bright flash from inside, and the room is filled with smoke.

"GAH FUCK! MY EYES! WHAT'D YOU DO TO ME?!"

Yeah, it's pretty dark in here. That'll just about do it.
You carefully peek around the corner, but don't see any obvious traps. No bomb strapped to Laggard's chest.

Rushing in, you rip the phaser rifle out of his hands and pin him to the floor.
Forcefully, you wrench his arms behind his back, and... oops. One of them just broke. Oh well. You zip-tie his hands together regardless, then drag him to his feet.

"You'll pay for this! All you Sadia bastards, you'll all fucking pay!"

"Shut up."
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>>4871026
And he'll huff, and he'll puff, and he'll kick your fucking door in.
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>>4871026
He only came by himself?
This smells like bullshit.
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>>4871047
Yeah. Check for saboteurs and stowaways. Don't want them to sneak onto our ship
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>>4871047
QM said most mercs are predators, most predators run solo, and that most mercs are usually in ships the same size as ours or smaller.

I'd say we're good, but probably need to keep on the lookout for others anyway. A little healthy paranoia never hurt.
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>>4871049
Cylia got the shotgun, she can handle any intruders.
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>>4871049
Well his ship was smaller than ours and ours is already a small ship.
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a one man op makes sense. This pirate has contacts to sell the stuff it makes but beyond that I doubt they want to have more people IN the ship.
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>>4871086
Probably best to hide him on our ship. Say he got pulled into space. Considering we'll be piloting his ship back to port, it shouldn't be too bad.


That said this guy has a grudge against the corp. Not a bad time to find out why.
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>>4871090
That sounds good, but we need to make it convincing that he got sucked out. Maybe depressurize his ship the blow a hole on the side?
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>>4871100
Nah we need to scrap the damn thing and sell it. No point in blowing up valuable property.
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>>4871090
Why? I'm not seeing your reasoning here.
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>>4871090
You want to declare him dead cutting our bounty in half and then????
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>>4871105
I agree that we need to ask him about why he hates Sadia, but we also need to take his ship with us and scrap it for parts and profit, not damage it further.
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>>4871104
We need to bring the ship back as proof, we can scrap it after. But we aren't going to blow it up, just put a plausible hole in the wall and point to it saying he went out that and we lost the body. .
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>>4871110
Yeah I don't want to pop the thing any more than it already is either. I just don't get why we're hiding the fact we nabbed the guy.
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>>4871111
That's fine, we just gotta blow a hole from the inside, and then we can say we hit something he was hauling, or something important with our experimental weapons, and it went boom, problem solved. These grunts haven't seen chemical weapons in a long time.
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>>4871112
I say hand in the bounty and scrap the ship for extra shekels.
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>>4871112
Why would we want to report him as dead, though? We lose half our bounty doing that?
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>>4871100
>>4871115
>>4871112
WHY
DO
YOU
WANT
TO
DO
THAT
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>>4871111
Idea, depressurize it from the inside using remote explosives.

As in, set some C-4/c-4 analogue in the ship and blow it from ours. "Oops, our breaching charge was too powerful" we say, then act suitably oblivious to the fact that no one in their right mind uses explosives indoors in space.
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>>4871090
Yeah nah, the bounty is double for brining him back in, and we can use his ship, either as parts, or salvage.

For fucks sake, don't be a coward now, we've already planned and committed to it.
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>>4871122
I'm starting to think these guys don't actually know what the fuck they want and are just saying "lel zap the ship more" for giggles.
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>>4871120
Money, access to additional assets/networks, etc...

Though nothing also prevents us from playing the "we're faking your death angle" for his trust then selling him out anyway
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>>4871115
WHY?

You dumb cunt, we don't need to do any of that, stop over complicating everything and fuck off to shadowrun.
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>>4871122
WHY DO YOU WANT TO DO THAT

>capture guy
>bring back guy
>optional:tow the ship
>give guy for mad cash
>profit

Why do three anons want to make a huge convoluted plot that involves making enemies with the federation and sadia corp for almost no benefit
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>>4871125
I mean, considering that I haven't heard a reasonable explanation for why we'd damage the ship more or why we'd cover up our involvement in a live bounty's death, which cuts our reward in half, you may be onto something.
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>>4871126
Holy shit, you actually are that retarded.
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Alright, let's not slag the ship any more than it's already crying engines have been.

But we're stealing the ordinance. I'm iffy on yoinking the armor since it'll probably interfere with the stealth a bit.
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>>4871129
We get double the bounty for bringing him in and even more from the ship plus we get in good graces with the power of the station we are staying at. I see no reason to fake his death
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>>4871129
+1 million. Doing anything other than this is absurdly stupid.
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>>4871131
Because he might have more dirt on Sadia, and we can get more plot, do any of you have a brain?
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>>4871140
Ah, so just being a metagaming faggot then.
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>>4871140
You don't need to open his ship for that. You don't even need to declare him dead for that. All you have to do is comm back "Yeah I'm coming back to the station." and that's the end of it. Then you can talk to Faggert as much as you want until we get back.

Adding steps needlessly doesn't make a plan better. He'll probably tell us right away why he hates them but without duress he isn't going to tell us any accomplices if he has any. And earning his trust by "faking" his death won't change the fact he doesn't trust us. Because we literally just hunted him down and broke his arm.
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>>4871140
why do we even need "dirt" on sadia, everyone knows they are a fucking space mafia
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>Why do three anons want to make a huge convoluted plot that involves making enemies with the federation and sadia corp for almost no benefit
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>>4871140
>>4871140
>Because he might have more dirt on Sadia
We can just interrogate him for info on Sadia while keeping him alive, anon.
>We can get more plot
There's plenty more plot to be had AFTER taking a massive bounty and not screwing our successful mission up.
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>>4871148
+1 for fucking the Federation cunts
still going with the Clone army idea
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>>4871151
Ooh oohh OOH OH AH AH AH AAAAHH

Monkey good at shitflinging.
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>>4871026
>Open a communication channel to your ship and tell Cylia that you have the bounty secured
>Put Laggard's vessel on a course to Xebric Station and tell your crew to follow suit
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>>4871155
the ship doesn't uh... have juice
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>>4871151
lol, blowing up the ship for no reason was never going to happen. David isn't a retard.
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>>4871144
>Metagaming
...how you dumbass, this is literally a self made plot, are you saying the guy looting Sadia shipments is somehow ignorant on Sadia? Were you dropped on your head after eating glue?
>>4871146
Okay, then we don't need too tow the ship if we don't need to bring back proof.
>>4871147
Yeah, but not enough to do anything, but it could mean fancy loot we can take.
>>4871149
>We can just interrogate him for info on Sadia while keeping him alive, anon.
Are you so brain damaged that you think I was going to say kill our little informant? Who else would we talk to.
>There's plenty more plot to be had AFTER taking a massive bounty and not screwing our successful mission up.
I want lizard co pilot.
>>4871148
Because fun and you take to damn long to update.
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Why did 4chan eat my post?
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>>4871162
You get two a day so i don't burn out, big boy.
Some of my favorite quests only run on weekends, or only get a couple posts a week.

People got shit to do.
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>>4871162
Oh, there it is. Weird.
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>>4871165
Because you deserve it.
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>>4871168
Then make it obvious instead of just going dark, most QMs call it for the night so people can go on doing their thing.
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>>4871170
You deserve these nutz
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>>4871175
Its the one complaint I got, when he's around not posting updates for hours its annoying.
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>>4871182
The 'tism is strong in that one
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>>4871182
Answering lore or questions is one thing, doing neither and not making updates is still annoying.
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>>4871162
>Okay, then we don't need too tow the ship if we don't need to bring back proof.
We're going to get profit out of his ship via salvage, stripping it or selling it you dumb cunt.

>Are you so brain damaged that you think I was going to say kill our little informant? Who else would we talk to.
He's our bounty not our informant you dumb cunt.

>I want lizard co pilot
He's our bounty not your fucktoy you dumb cunt.
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>>4871180
Man it's almost like people have shit to do
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>>4871190
Kek. Even if i didn't have shit to do, i'd still want to enjoy my hobbies. It's not like i get paid for this.
I wonder if that dude's off his meds tonight.
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>>4871189
>He's our bounty not our informant you dumb cunt.
He can be both if we make him.
>We're going to get profit out of his ship via salvage, stripping it or selling it you dumb cunt.
So why say we aren't towing it back?
>He's our bounty not your fucktoy you dumb cunt.
Big projection fag, have anything you want to say?
>>4871190
>>4871187
Already answered.
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>>4871090
Why would we do this. I can get asking the guy questions, but I doubt he's got anything of equivalent worth to his bounty and the price of his ship.
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>>4871191
Then call it, so I can switch threads. I don't give a shit if you take time for your hobbies.
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>>4871191
don't worry QM he is giving us the entertainment we need until you post.
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>>4871199
Yes, i'm killing the quest and never coming back. You can leave forever now, thanks.

>>4871200
tfw i'm already supposed to be in bed but i haven't had dinner yet
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>>4871172
>T-t-tell me when you're l-leaving senp-p-pai
Holy hell what a loser. Maximum kek
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>>4871198
He's spent awhile being consistent with looting their shit, where has he stashed his loot?
>>4871200
Not for long unless someone wants more mech pics.
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>>4871199
who is holding a gun up to your head forcing you to stay here 24/7
How long have you been off your meds that you lost the basic ability to multi-task you fucking tangerine.
>>4871203
It happens sometimes
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>>4871203
Go eat dinner fag. Starving sucks ass.
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>>4871209
It's a joke, lad. I've been on the internet a long time, i'm used to spergs.
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>>4871207
Hey woah some people like tangerines. Make him a more useless fruit, like uh fuggin durian or summat.
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>>4871206
What makes you think he stashed it instead of selling it or giving it to whatever pathetic exploited colony he's doing this on behalf of.

Look why would this guy change his tune towards us when we just beat in 2 doors on his ship and broke his arm anyway.
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>>4871207
I want consistency or a schedule.
>What the fuck are you on bro? Just chill alright?
I'm perfectly chill, you faggots are so uncreative as to question faking a prisoners death so he can be exploited by us. And one dude misused metagaming in a sentence.
>>4871215
Don't know, that's why we find out before dumping him.
>Look why would this guy change his tune towards us when we just beat in 2 doors on his ship and broke his arm anyway.
Because we are playing a Marine that finished his tour of duty and has a very creative mind.
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>>4871125
>>4871129
Hey now, I'm just saying that if we do something we should do it right.

I could go either way, honestly.
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>>4871217
You were literally, out of character, trying to create plot hooks. Thats metagaming you dumb cunt.
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>>4871259
>Out of character
In what way, its been 1 and a quarter sessions, unless your in a DM call with the QM and have info we don't.
>trying to create plot hooks.
Again, unless you know something we don't, I'm proposing some shadow running stuff to get more shit. That is derailing the current plot for a new mission at worst, not metagaming you window licker. Use the word right you tard.
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>>4871220
Damn CIA over here built like a Kenshi character
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>>4871267
That is a game I haven't heard in a long time, never got a chance to play the sequel though.
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>>4871270
>never got to play the sequel
>which hasn't been released yet
Gee I wonder fucking why.
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>>4871275
Wait, what? I thought it was released like 2 years after the first, what happened? Did it get canned?
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>>4871270
you morons do realize we can use torture to give us information more specifically chinese water torture
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>>4871275
Wait, no, I mixed up the names of another game. Never mind. I was thinking of Genji. Kenshi is that single player RPG thing right?
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>>4871111
>>4871129

We can see if he'll pay us off double the bounty on his head.

If he's ship raiding for this long hes probably made more than double or triple the bounty on his head.

Just have to interrogate him a bit.
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>>4871290
If you knew anything about anything you'd know the torture is incredibly unreliable. After a while people will say whatever you want to hear. Whether it's true or not.
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>>4871298
how about putting him in the airlock and threaten to jettisoned him out by pushing the once and the cancel the action over and over again
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>>4871301
>If torture's unreliable why don't we just put him in a situation where he REALLY has good reasons to tell us whatever we want to hear
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>>4871304
or shove him in a dark empty room with a hidden camera with him naked and make it seam like days had pass
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>>4871306
No bro just suck on his nuts until he begs for mercy. That'll do it.
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>>4871311
That's stupid, but far from the worst plan I've heard in the last 6 hours.
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>>4871026
I support at least asking Laggard the nature of his grudge. Curiosity for its own sake, but there's value in learning the shape of the leviathan we bed with.
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>>4871298
You clearly don't know much about torture then.

Torture can work if you know what your doing and if you can get into the persons mind while knowing enough to vet or filter information.
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>>4871350
Cool. Give me the psyche profile for a literal alien we know absolutely nothing about other than "he hates sadia".

It won't work dude.
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>>4871366
We can make one right now if you want.
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>>4871385
You do you. I ain't gonna bother. I already gave my two cents on the torture. If you wanna do it for funsies you go right ahead.
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The fuck happened in the thread while I was gone
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>>4871420
Someone had a stroke, anon didn't take his meds, and by golly the quest died rip
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>>4871168
As a eurofag I very much appreciate your schedule.
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I usually like to make an attempt to follow along on thread discussions, but I'm not feeling it. Too much autism for me to consume in one sitting.

Instead I wanna talk about the chaingun phaser. A phaser can fire off several times a second.
the example chaingun Cochrane mentioned required 6 phaser for 20 shots per second.
Depending on the dimensions of the phasers and if they can be made to be narrow will determine how many barrels we can have before it becomes to cumbersome to wield. Carrying it isn't an issue, but turning around and making sure it doesn't touch the ground sort of is.
Should we go for broke and get 24 phaser for a 80 shots a second?
A legally purchased phaser might run for 150 credits a pop, and we'd need a motor for every 6 barrels so that's 100 or less per motor. Final cost will run us up maybe less than 4k credits for a sick riot control weapon that can suppress a crowd or entire hallway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4RiDEI81tI
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>>4871636
Fully on board with 24 phasers but 150 was for a cheap phaser so we should probably do a bit of shopping before we finalize on the type of phaser we choose.
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>>4871636
You know now that I think of it, given how much better our weapons are why were we going to make a /phaser/ gatling instead of a regular gatling anyway?
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>>4871771
Shits and giggles?
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>>4871636
If you work with your engineer to draw up a design, you could get it fabricated without having to buy a bunch of phasers and glue them together.
By completely ignoring the design intentions of a normal phaser, you could much more easily create a gatling phaser that you could lug around.

Powered by it's own antimatter reactor and storing energy using oversized supercapacitors, cooled by drawing air through the internals with a fan attached to the motor...
It might be a little heavy, since the antimatter bottle would need to be shielded, but you could achieve the ridiculous rate of fire you want. Something in the 50kw range.
It would have overheating problems, but so do real miniguns. As long as you don't hold down the trigger and keep going until it pops, it'll be fine.

Something like that would actually be great to mount on your ship as an automated anti-troop weapon.

>>4871771
A minigun needs to be extremely heavy for a lot of reasons. Thick barrels to resist warping and chamber pressure, a heavy motor to spin those barrels, not to mention a backpack filled with car batteries and ammo just to use the damn thing.
In terms of personal weapon overkill, phasers beat out gunpowder and lead due to sheer weight.
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>>4871777
Aah well I guess that's fair. It'll be the 'big guns' but not the 'biggerest guns'
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>>4871779
I still want those 20mm cannons mounted on the nose of the ship when we get back.
Other than that I'm sure our Gatling laser will do good for us when we eventually get our power armour.
>>4871780
Should we bring up the antimatter cannon idea to Kyla?
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>>4871785
Ah yes, the ol' antimatter bullet?
Highly illegal! Highly dangerous! Extremely effective!

Sure, you could bring it up to her any time.
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Speaking of Earth,

We really need some gameplan on how to approach it once our dude gets his head screwed on straight on the issue..

Lots of people will want a fuckton of things and a lot of them not that good for us.

But with a stealth ship we could run a recruitment campaign to buff up the human numbers in our crew and get a contingent of human agents whom we could make to be loyal if not to us then to the outfit in general.


It's also probably the nr 1 major export earth could provide to the galactic market.

Fighting bodies that exceed the capacity of competing services. We will need at lest one decent accountant, and one decent to good lawyer with lobbying experience or some other kind of political operative, probably of the more don't thread on me snek outlook variant if possible or merc enough to be flexible on his positions and enough money to make bribing him pointless. Then round it up with something like a platoon strength recruited mass of fighters to use as the starting employee/ collaborator pool, who will do a first tour on the whole alien merc market.
While we do this perhaps some kind of relatively easy to get and easy to reproduce alien gear or technologies we can patent and sell off on earth to make connections with various megacorps and one or two to hold for ourselves to produce on our own, with a factory in some relatively important state in the us and some good voting block in the EU that is not expensive. Thinking not west europe, with lots of population. That way we get the Atlantic hemisphere invested and them more predisposed towards following in our footsteps and not completely sideline us to some glorified historical footnote.

If we can keep the merc market scounting operation relatively secret in having the first wave not leak this shit and do a second induction, with viable alinemerc veneterans as leaders of their own squads or platoons of new recruits we should be set by the time we are done with wave to to have a regiment of experienced merc troopers that know how it is out there, enough business and political ties to earth that we will be in a nice position once the whole thing gets revealed.

After that it depends on how we want to play it. We will have the largest body of men experienced with the aliens, and the largest collection of xenotech and one of the main provider of a lot of it with legal claim to it in the western earth legal system.

We would be way to annoying to box in or shunt somewhere away and we will be able to take a seat at the big boy table on how to handle the whole aliens thing.
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>>4871785
You mean the radiation cannon? Either way, nah I don't think so. If we're looking for weaponry to address potential hard targets in the future let's just build a spacetech RPG with a shaped charge warhead. It's extremely valuable to us that our technology simultaneously flies under the legislative radar while being more effective than what's commonly used out here anyway. We should leverage that as far as it'll take us.

Though shaped charge explosive are basically just babbies first particle beam, so I wonder if they'd be picked up or not.
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>>4871791
just wait till our crewmates hear about the desert of utah, they'll shit their pants
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>>4871786
Speaking of guns, how is armoured ground warfare for aliens? Do they still use tracks or are they hovering?
>>4871791
I just wanna fuck over the Galactic council
>>4871792
I thought the antimatter cannon and the radiation cannon were two separate thing. Pretty sure I wanted robots equipped with Radiation guns for the most effectiveness. Also we can just say our antimatter cannon is actually just a tank gun we strapped on so all good.
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>>4871797
This quest is prone to 'tism and overly long /k/ rants so I must've missed that one somewhere. Can you describe the antimatter cannon, or is it not really any more complex than its name?
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>>4871797
"Ground" vehicles typically hover using miniaturized gravity generators and air jets.
They tend to be armored against lasers and not much else.

>>4871802
The antimatter cannon wasn't a cannon.
The idea was to stick a tiny, grain-sized nugget of antimatter into a bullet which could be fired from a gun, and explode on impact.
The downside is that, obviously it's very dangerous to carry that sort of thing around, and since it's so small the containment field wouldn't last long once you took it out of the container, requiring it to be fired quickly.
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>>4871786
I forget if you've answered this question or if has been asked yet:
Have the aliens come up with Coil- or Railguns? Or have they scoffed at the concepts entirely because they're too good for kinetics?

>>4871791
>Speaking of Earth,
>We really need some gameplan on how to approach it once our dude gets his head screwed on straight on the issue..
>>David arrives on Earth Orbit
>>"Yoo aliens are real!"
>>Refuses to elaborate further
>>leaves
Jokes aside, I think we need to get Earth to just fucking STOP sending "hey, were here! Come visit!" messages to space for one.
Think about it. Prey species hold the most power in the galaxy. What do you think will happen if they learn of a Predator species on the cusp of proper space travel tech?
The United Council or whatever the reigning galactic body was called might just glass Earth as a knee-jerk reaction.
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>>4871791
Anyway for State i would like a pseudo xenotech factory to be in Florida, just for Florida Man.
Texas might be a better choice however. All incorporated in Delaware of course.

for a EU country to pull a mirror act, dunno. somewhere in east Europe for better return on our bribe, er, lobby money, and the ones with highest population are Poland and Romania. One of those two I guess.

>>4871797

>fuckton of mercs that are in essence supersoldiers to the alien fighting markets should fuck up their operations.

The availability of such will make funding bostoner tea party events and cochrane style contributions rather affordable to those getting human mercs.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=pU-kFUJoJEU

Remember if you get a foot in the door to the circles of power at home you can sell them on the idea that it would be best for us if we can chart our own course instead of eventually becoming the councils attack dog at the very best. To that end they would sign off on well, doing the above stunts, be it ourselves or other new third parties that are totally not CIA, MI6 or FSB funded, but completely private. They just happen to land lucrative contracts in places that on average tends to inconvenience the galactic council.
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>>4871803
Sounds like it'd be better to have an entire gun with the sole purpose of safely housing and firing this bullet once. That way we don't have to worry about needing to fire it quickly, seeing as combat is unpredictable. No more dangerous than carrying high explosives on us either, seeing as either one would kill us just as dead if things went wrong.
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>>4871804
Aliens do in fact have railguns.
They're reserved entirely for military ship-to-ship combat and are only used at close ranges, but they do have them.

>>4871804
>David just uploads schematics for slipspace/frame shift drives and their prerequisite tech all over the internet
>"It is done." -David the Destroyer
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>>4871806
The great thing about C4 is that it's just fuckin' playdough unless you set up the detonation properly.
You can use it as a fuel pellet to heat up a can of beans safely, by literally just lighting it on fire.
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>>4871802
Exactly as it’s named
>>4871803
I wonder what would happen if we were to make a T-34 but replace the steel with ablative armouring (forgot the material but we had one). Don’t think they could cope with sloped armour and kinetic rounds.
Also I thought the antimatter cannon was also something we would mount to the ship since that was the original idea or is that the radiation cannon?
>>4871805
We hire Florida men as the best of the best. Other then that I personally want galactic scale revolt against the council so we can take control but whatever works. Once we get back to Earth though we should remove all these agencies because they are a cancer.
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>>4871812
>>4871812
>We hire Florida men as the best of the best. Other then that I personally want galactic scale revolt against the council so we can take control but whatever works. Once we get back to Earth though we should remove all these agencies because they are a cancer.

You remove those you get others. Said cancer is intrinsic to human society and keeping power. The only thing you can do is mitigate some of the excesses and stupidity.

They are the same as the cancer of bureaucracy, or the totally not a one party system regardless of how many parties you have due to the whole ruling social class.

These things are intrinsically linked to complex society that cannot get rid of only flutily fought against and then getting them later under another name to maintain the new system - and you personally eliminated if you are against said implementation.

Might as well try and take some advantage of playing them a bit and then reducing their relevancy by exporting the more problem ridden parts off earth.
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>>4871779
>Thick barrels to resist warping and chamber pressure
Barrel diameter and contour on rotary guns is purely a function of heat transfer capacity. Basically a heat sink, once the rate of temperature transfer is exceeded on a ground mounted rotary gun (anything mounted on a flying platform has more than enough cooling capability just from high speed airflow), then the barrels start to warp, though on most Murican designs, the de-linker will cut the feed and motor when the barrels change shape, they are mounted and bound together such that a catastrophic failure wont blow up the gun, just cut the motor.
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>>4871791
>It's also probably the nr 1 major export earth could provide to the galactic market.

We Dorsai now?
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>>4871810
It makes anything cooked on it taste like crap
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>>4871817
Well, it's burning plastic.
But the smartest man who's eaten the most crayons would just wait until the beans are warm before opening the can.
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>>4871816
>Dorsai
https://youtube.com/watch?v=EVCtCWXB2W4

Kind of? But not really, maybe a very initial promoter of such a split. 12 yo veteran of the core is not really the norm for earth people, but kind of in a relatively low percentage number of elite in martial aspects.

That being said, even green recruits are going to be worth the money for aliens, so... kind of, yeah...
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>>4871636
You don't have to read every single post, either skim or skip them.

I want to see a multi lens energy beam handheld wrist gun with multiple settings like whip mode or scatter slash mode that lashes out and burn a carved swath through bodies, or electric mode that jumps through whole groups of people like a electric beam of plasma.
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>>4871813
Can we at least get rid of the Mossad?
>>4871822
We should make a prototype plasma rifle and compare to see if it has a place.
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>>4871832
you can... deal with them like with all the others.
physically remove as much of them as possible from earth and into the galaxy, and preferably also reduce their funding.

I mean it is a big galaxy. We simply have to find a fuckton of very important alien jobs spooks critically have to do.
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>>4871837
>>4871832
I mean, with exporting a fuckton of mercs someone has to make sure that no one in the alien leadership will simply think that blowing up earth is the way to solve that problem, and of course making the necessary PR of humans not being to blame for the fighting- that is the employer, humans are just really good at it.

Basedou know a lot of governments and a lot of jobs to make certain they don't send the fleet to find and bomb earth and of course to make humans be less blamed for everything there is wrong under the stars.

glowies should have at least some experience on doing that? right?
very important job. keep earth from being blow up by the scared aliens...
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>>4871807
>David just uploads schematics for slipspace/frame shift drives and their prerequisite tech all over the internet
thats actually fucking genius QM why land on earth and get the ship taken away by the military or some people of power when you could just spam schematics and messages all over the internet I was always thinking of how get the earth to the galactic stage without fucking anything of our ship and our crew by not being near it
this is by far the best option when you have nothing that could stand up with you as one of the people with power
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>>4871839
>>4871839
>Basedou know
Because you know


At least for one generation every intel operative that is not of paramount importance to be holed up on earth due to something or another will get posted to monitor and organize shilling campaigns amongst aliens.
That should at least be one generation of relative peace on earth. The next generation is going to be someone else problem. We have done our job.
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>>4871841
Or if you are patient you can the one who drip feeds some alien knick knacks on patent and produces one or two of those in electorally critical areas, thus creating your own relatively powerful group that sits at the table of the high and mighty.

for that you need to have some kind of patience to play the long game. as in a minimum of 5 years or so until it pays of.


The internet upload is nice in a kind of wash your hands of it, but at the end of day its going to be the same people who are going to get it, whereas if we are patient we can be part of said group and even direct its path as the obvious candidates to propose a first approach.

Especially if we make use of our stealth ship to not disclose the location of earth or to disclose our alien stuff when we first return or visit.

either way it is a question of if we want to get involved in earth stuff or simply fuck about with aliens while just doing the bare minimum with earth.
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I still think we should keep second contact casual by visiting mom and dad with our alien gf
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>>4871026

Cylia watches as you drag him back through the docking port, kicking and screaming. It's starting to get annoying, so you "accidentally" slam his head against the door frame to shut him up.

"Whoops."

"You're really rough on our bounties, you know."

"It's better for them in the long run. If i had to listen to that for much longer i'd have killed him. Kyla, take a look at his ship's engines. You don't have to get them back online, but if you could seal up the gas tubes and get the RCS online it would make getting it back to port much easier."

"Awww man, i just got out of that damn space suit!"

"So what are we going to do with him? It's not like we have a brig in here, and he's gonna sleep off that concussion eventually."

"Easy. I'm gonna freeze him."

"In the cryo-stasis pods? Aren't you a little curious about why he's so pissed at Sadia?"

"Sure, but at the end of the day it doesn't really matter. I still need to get paid, and i can't let him go if i don't want to piss Sadia off. Do me a favor and let the cargo ship know we got him, would you?"

"Alright..."

After dragging Laggard over to the pods, you pat him down for any other weapons he might have and find a second phaser hidden down his pants, along with a knife.
Thoroughly disarmed, you shove him into the pod for a nice nap and head back towards his ship. Kyla is already busy inspecting the damage outside, but you're worried about what might be inside.

You know Cylia said mercs work alone, but there's always a chance.
You sweet each room again, much more thoroughly this time. Cylia has had time to cool down and joins you after a while.
After going over the whole ship three times, you're relatively confident that nobody else is hiding in here. You also note that it's a lot more comfortable than the grey's ship, even if it's smaller.
For one thing, it has a proper bed with carpeted flooring and a real toilet and shower. The greys just don't care about that sort of thing, and that's just another reason to hate them for existing.

"Hey Dave, what does the fuel pressure sensor read?"

"Still zero."

"Okay, lemme just... there! How about now?"

"Uhhhh... oh hey! Starting to rise now."

"Sweet! As long as that weld holds above 87 psi we're good!"

"This ain't gonna drain our ship too much, is it?"

"Nah, you blew the storage tanks on this baby to hell, so we just gotta charge the lines. It's practically nothing."

"Alright, good. Get the struts in place and we'll tow her back home."

"Hey, if you're breaking this ship down for parts, i call dibs on the blue box!"

"Sure, take whatever you want. What's a blue box, though?"

"It's the ship's AI core, very high technology and generally expensive. Not all ships have a real one, but this guy's does!"

"Oh, well that's nice. I'm sure you'll do something interesting with it."

"Hehehehehe."

"Don't laugh like that, it's creepy."
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>>4871874
Well we told them we have him so there's no backing out now.

Doubt we will even listen to the dudes story at this point.

Also the blue box comes out of Kyla's pay. That stuff sounds expensive.
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>>4871886
It is, but so are the laser cannons.
Are those coming out of your pay?

Just saying, it's a good idea to treat your people well.
If you engineer wants some scraps, it's probably a good idea to let her have them.
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>>4871886
>>4871888
coch has a point, docking something out of somone's pay arbitraly is not a good idea if you wanna foster long-term mutually beneficial relationbs with somone.
someone like our fungal goblin here
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>>4871888
>laser cannons.
..... Are we keeping the lasers for ourselves to turn into handheld weapon for combat?

I thought we were gonna put it all into the pool?
At least the lasers could go into the ship pool and added to the ship without going through the currency conversion and back to lasers.
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>>4871893
Got to milk em first before we have a taste.
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>>4871897
what does that even mean?
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>>4871786
>>4871785
What about a gun that uses antimatter as the propellant?

IE, instead of a chemical reaction to propel a sug, we use a matter-antimatter reaction to propel it.
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>>4871894
...They're going on your ship, man.
You guys really want to stomp around in power armor just to squish the equivalent of wheelchair-bound children, huh?

>>4871900
I can't even begin to describe how unbelievably overcomplicated and unnecessary that is
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>>4871888
On a scale of "Can be sold in broad daylight" to "You need potentially shady connections to sell it", how expensive are we talking here? Just asking for future reference, right now I'm content with letting Kyla have this one.

>>4871900
Dear god, that just sounds needlessly powerful for a simple handheld firearm. the amount of crap needed to make that safe would make the gun unwieldy methinks.
Now, using something like that for the spinal cannon of a dreadnought or capital ship on the other hand...
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>>4871803
What would happen if we just brought a pressurized water canon, could that break bones?
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>>4871901
But does that not describe humanity?

>>4871902
That's more in the vein of what I was thinking.

My original concept was to simply use a nuclear reaction as the propellant, but then I heard "antimatter" and realized you can get way more bang for your buck.
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>>4871904
I'm pretty sure that if it can throw people into walls on earth, it can do it in space even better.
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>>4871902
A low-end quantum blue box is around 25k credits. They're very useful and very valuable. They also aren't something that can be made on a nanofab, and can be hard to find at times.
There's nothing shady about them, but you can consider it a similar situation to the current GPU shortage where you'd have to sell your house for a 1060.

Sure, you could get by on intel integrated graphics, but there are some things you're just not going to be able to do without a real GPU.

>>4871905
It describes a kickstarter scam more than anything.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Cp-BGQfpHQ
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just give her the blue box, it's not anythin exeedingly rare, i bet if we continue hunting bounties we'll find more of them soon enough
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>>4871901
>You guys really want to stomp around in power armor just to squish the equivalent of wheelchair-bound children, huh?
It's a psychological warfare tactic! The faster we introduce the galactic community to glorious Human Engineering, the faster we'll lull them into a false sense of security!
>Ayys: "Okay, I think we've seen everything this one human can come up with. They can't possibly get any crazier than this!"
>Human Species: *chuckles* "Observe."
>On that day, the galaxy was introduced to the concept of drop pods
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>>4871918
"FIRE BOARDING TORPEDOES"
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>>4871914
Except instead of it being a stupid idea because we want to milk money out of rich idiots, it's a stupid idea because we like explosions and want to accelerate something to an appreciable fraction of C without an engine.

Say, if an antimatter cannon doesn't work, would a space-based version of the Russian ground-to-orbit Nuke cannon work?
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>>4871901
>You guys really want to stomp around in power armor just to squish the equivalent of wheelchair-bound children, huh?
I do now!
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>>4871914
Just ignore that anon and give e her the blue box. I'd like to know what she'll be working on when she's done. I have the feeling it might be some infantry sized drone.
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>>4871901
We love bullying cripples
>>4871934
let her have it I am sure she can make something useful out of it
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>>4871810
>>4871817
You guys have lived a nice life, huh
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>>4871874
>"Hehehehehe."
don't goblins go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7Or4hfVSvA
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>>4872082
It was translated.
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>>4872092
oh
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>>4871807
I'm pretty sure that China would immediately do something stupid like take advantage of their greater manufacturing capabilities since they're the start of everyone's supply chain to try and take over the world/galaxy via making a fleet. China might be inferior on high end designs because they haven't been able to steal them yet, but us uploading that on the internet would skip past that. We would have to destroy those commie bastards first and foremost
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>>4871914
What would happen if we were to extrapolate the idea of quad cores and hook up a bunch of AI to each other? Would they work better or would they bicker?
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>>4872124
I mean if the gooberment really wanted they could yoink all major business out of China and pick up the slack relatively quickly. But no one wants to foot the bill for that.

RIP
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Best option is to form BasedCorp in the United States. We have not really done anything illegal, so legally we can probably just set up shop and show everyone the finger. Collaborate with the United States and the tech will trickle down to our allies, and probably not China.
Immense profits go to our person and we get to be a happy patriot.
Or we can do some gay (no homo) shit like give it to the U.N.
Best idea is make a golden age of private space business. The United States already has crazy competition in the space industry today. If SpaceX had this kind of tech, every rock in the solar system would have a probe on it, and every planet a colony.
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Let’s just pick up the few thousands Rhodesian holding on in Zimbabwe and make a space Empire, Nobody will notice they are missing anyways and QM said we could achieve biological immortality.
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>>4872153
'tis the story of rhodesia, a land most fair and great
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>>4872153
>NeoRhodesia is formed
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>>4872167
yes that is our long term goal; MRGA
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>>4872124
pretty sure the plan was to wipe the chicoms off the face of the earth because they tried to nuke us.
and for being commies.
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>>4872180
>tfw literally erasing an entire massive country because they mistakenly attacked us without even knowing it
Now THAT is the most American thing I can think of.
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>>4872180
just be shure to do it while saluting a bald eagle and rocket jumping at the same time
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>>4872186
Fuck the commie chinks, literal locust subhumans.
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>>4872267
What about the noncommie chinks?
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>>4872273
They aren't in China, they can get by. We crush main commie cities and remove the heads of the snakes.
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>>4872205
Only if we're also holding a shovel.
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>>4872277
>>4872267
If we do it the patient way we could use alien toys and our future cadre of alien experienced mercs to deal with communism.

From what I understand we need to get the proper people. Rhodies, East euros, the proper south Americans, etc. People who are already allgined and anti commie. The problem with the last two is that they have this strange love hate relationship with the bigg daddy government and sometimes slip into socialisms for the strangest fucking reasons.

With that and some xenoscatech we should be able to locate most of the important people in the party, and say two or three levels below it and then make our public reveal of alien space ships and civilizations to be a massive private IP enforcement that eliminates the top layers of the communist party in China. No need to nuke it. We can be very targeted about it.

Maybe even get something analagouse to the shiawese decision and get extraterritoriality for our properties.
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>>4871818
To be fair to it, it does taste a lot better than kebabs cooked over a diesel firepit while buried.
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>>4871914
Antimatter grenades is a no go, but what if the anti matter bullets were stored in a back mounted ammo case+containment field?
>backpack stores blackhole bullets and keep them from prematurely going off.
>chaingun trigger causes backpack to dispense deathbullets down enclosed ammo-belt (like those 20mm Vulcan cannons in fighter planes)
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I doubt we can miniaturize it, but given that the FTL drives work via bending space around the vehicle, isn't that also a legitimate way to make one impervious to attack via bending space around you?
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>>4872566
>this weapon costs 2e04 credits to fire
>for .12 seconds
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Okay....what about Chainswords, or at least Chain Bayonets, Chain Knives, Chain Axes?
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>>4872598
All terrible in practice.
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>>4872603
But chainsaws are cool, and horrifying.
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>>4872607
And a logistics nightmare when you think about what the average astartes is using them for.
If all you need is to cut shit, get a proper sharp axe and learn how to use the damn thing.
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>>4872618
A chain axe or chain knife should be fine.
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>>4872618
Better yet a forearm mounted chainsaw.
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>>4872625
Wait, Power Fist with adjustable Chainsaw blade.
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>>4872598
Chain weapons only work if you throw out your 40K perception of them and use an actual chainsaw blade.

Like the only way I can see one working is literally just a particularly long, skinny chainsaw.
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>>4872657
So long as we can Rev up Menacingly I will be happy. But with that out of the way, how about gun blades, shotgun axes, knife guns, gun knives, a Chechen Grenade Launcher?
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>>4872657
Chainsaws inevitably fail when coming into contact with clothing or hair.
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>>4872661
How about not. No fun allowed here.
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>>4872688
Yeah, but they don't fail as hard if it's an actual chainsaw and not a 40K abomination.

>>4872661
>Gun blades
Only if you use the historical model for it and not the final fantasy one.
>Shotgun axes
It requires a (relatively) weak shotgun and a special grip (more handle than pistol grip, look one up for yourself to see what I mean), but it can work pretty well. Out of all the combination weapons tried historically, this is one of the most functional.
>knife guns
Assuming you mean a gun that shoots knives, google the ballistic knife.
>gun knives
Existed historically, not the best gun or knife, probably better to just use one of each.
>Chechen grenade launcher
No idea what that is.

Really, a normal bayonet on a good rifle is the best. If I had to take one from your list I'd take the shotgun axe.
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>>4872708
Indeed. Bayonet is fine. More than fine, good even.
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>>4872708
>Yeah, but they don't fail as hard if it's an actual chainsaw and not a 40K abomination.
I mean a complete stoppage is a complete stoppage.
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>>4872716
It takes longer for a realistic chainsaw to stop. Or I assume it would at least, I don't think anyone's tested that.
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>>4872723
It's pretty quick actually.
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>>4872698
Gay.
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>>4871874

When you ride into port hauling a damaged ship behind you, it turns some heads.
The port authority immediately arrive to interrogate you, but let you through just as quickly when they see who you've got draped over your shoulder.

"Oh man, his face is all burned. What'd he do to him?"

"I don't want to know. Look at the way his arm is dangling. That's definitely broken."

Plenty of people are talking about it as you drag your bounty directly down to the law office.
As per usual, you drop him unceremoniously in front of Kenley's desk.

Kenley casually glances over his desk, then goes back to typing at his computer.

"Got a big one today, huh? He's been harassing merchants around here for a couple years now. Real pest, that one."

"Yep. Got my pay?"

"All business, huh? Here you are."

Your holopad dings, and you confirm the amount. 50,000 credits right into your bank account.
That's 25 for the ship, then 8.3k for each of the crew.

"Pleasure doing business, officer."

"Sure saves me some work."

You feel a bit relieved now that you've got some scratch. But that doesn't last long, since you feel like something is off the second you step out of the law office.
Whoever it is, they aren't stupid enough to attack you right outside of what is essentially a police station. You draw your pistol and walk back to the ship, but nothing happens in the end.
When you get there, Kyla is busy inspecting the ship for damage and Cylia is busy looking at her bank balance.

"Someone was watching me. I couldn't find them, but i could feel it."

"What do you mean you could "feel" it? You just said you couldn't see them. Aren't you imagining things?"

"Fuck no. I trust my instinct, and my instinct tells me i'm being hunted."

"You're not a wild animal, David. Calm down."

"I'll calm down when everyone who's got a problem with me is dead."

"Oh come on..."

You can't help but pace back and forth around the ship. You feel cornered for some reason.
So you do what you always do. Whether you're in public, at home or wherever else. You always sit with your back against the corner, so that nobody can sneak up on you.
The feeling doesn't go away. Not after one hour, or two, or even three. You just sit in the corner with your pistol on your lap, ignoring Cylia's protests all the while.

(Fine,) you think to yourself. (if you're not going to move, then i'll just have to lure you out.)

So you pretend to be sleepy. Slowly, over the course of fifteen minutes or so, you slump over in your chair with your eyes closed and just listen.
Kyla and Cylia have already gone to bed. If there's anything in here with you, it's not going to be one of them.

Roll 1d100, best of 3.
DC20
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Rolled 64 (1d100)

>>4872752
It was a trap, ha HA!
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Rolled 12 (1d100)

>>4872752
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My bets are on some weird bug kid crawling on walls and shit watching us.
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>>4872759
good effort

>>4872755
you are sad boy who fails DC20 roll
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>>4872752
Personal cloaking device?
A Nu-predator grassfed soibug.
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>>4872760
Meh, dice are dice, 4chans rolls are shit with my connection. Sometimes get back to back crits though.
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>>4872755
>>4872760
hey at least he didnt roll a 1
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>>4872764
there is no universe in which lower is better
this ain't golf

>>4872766
True. Then i'd have to punish you.
Now then, off to bed for me. Not feeling well.
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>>4872768
Night.
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>>4872766
There was a 1 in his post.
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>>4872768
>there is no universe in which lower is better
What about Straya?
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>>4872180
Reminder that, by nuking the ship we were one, the chinks literally saved our fucking life. David would've been experimented on and probably disposed of if China hadn't killed those greys. We suffered literally nothing from it (not even any radiation sickness) and got freedom and a cool space ship for it.
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>>4872785
That would mean being down in victoria or tasmania, and as lovely as the landscape is in tassie, being lower is indeed worse.
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>>4872895
The ayys drugs were wearing off and their equipment was struggling to contain us when we were awake. I bet we'd have had an opening to punch our way free through the grays.
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>>4872898
We already could have from the get to go if people didn’t constantly vote to go along with whathever the Greys wanted to do.
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>>4872898
Anon, we would've been frozen solid. Qm explicitly said that the ayy we found on the floor in front of our pod was moments away from putting us into cryostasis.
Maybe we could've escaped, maybe not. The nuke made it way easier and with much less anal probing.
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>>4872895
If idiots didn't vote for let the greys do whatever they wanted to us we wouldn't have to worry about nukes or being frozen.
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>>4872895
You're right. They indirectly saved us, or at least heavily facilitated our escape.
However, that also gave us a good Casus Belli against chinks, communism and the enemies of America.
No matter how beneficial the nuke was for us, we must do what is right for America.
There must be war. God wills it.
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>>4872895
If they would've known there was a marine on board they'd have sent a second missile to finish the job.
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>>4872930
There were a few people who wanted to be probed in the butthole with a metal pecker, and were willing to do anything to get their probing.

Fucking brainworm infested, emmental lookalike, vacuum between the ears bellends.
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>>4873005
Woah, easy up with the projecting there! TMI!
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>>4873015
I mean like its kind of cliché, but they were gonna do probing and a lot more.

Honestly if it wasn't for the QM not wanting to kill us off right off the bat at the start and generate a new character, we wouldn't be playing as David.

I'd wager that if the QM didn't make it abundantly clear for us or David with the greys monologuing on what they were gonna do to us, we'd still be trying to befriend the greys and repatriate them to their home world.
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>>4873015
He’s kinda right though; people voted to be ultra passive with the Greys, we shouldn’t have needed the Nuke to save our ass.
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>>4873017
Fucking idiots should have gone over to imaginary social worker quest instead of trying to make a marine do stupid things without first eating a box of crayons and 3 MRE slurry milkshakes.
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>>4873020
I get it and I agree for the most part, but no ones gonna learn or start using their noggin more if we rage at them over one mistake at the start.
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>>4872972
The other responses I got were reasonable but this is just retarded. What does China gain by killing some rando marine?
Another reminder to any retards in this thread: China and America are two of the closest economic partners in the entire fucking world. Sometimes government officials cry and posture, but neither country will ever start a war or do anything violent. It would be bad for business.
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>>4873043
To expand, this means that if David is retarded enough to unilaterally attack China, it's just as likely to be the fucking CIA that tries to assassinate him as it is the PRC.
Any plan to get rid of China would have to be long-term and not immediately violent. Like giving ayy tech only to western countries and sabotaging any attempts by China to get it, thus weakening chink global influence until they're no longer useful to the US.
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>>4873043
Looks like the only retard here is you for not picking up on the obvious satire.

Besides, we all know chicom shills like you are too stupid to realize exactly what is happening behind the jade curtain.
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>>4872916
Or we wake up from a bunch of needles trying to jab us and kick the door open.
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>>4873017
>GM doesn't kill the character on the very first choice he included in his quest, the choice he wrote in
Whoopdidoop!
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>>4873018
You can choose not to attack the enemy, but that doesn't mean the enemy isn't going to attack you.
You're only in control of what David does here, and only up to a point.

Even if people vote to strip naked and run around the station raping and killing everything in sight, i'm still not doing that for obvious reasons.
The greys were never friendly. I made that as clear as i could.

Had you killed or subdued them and commandeered the ship earlier, there would have been a chance to escape into space without getting nuked or to head back to earth immediately.
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>>4873026
>quest
>mistake
Go back to vidya if you only care of "winning".
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>>4873130
Indeed, if people didn’t vote to be passive with the greys we could have done much better for ourselves.
Ah well, what’s done is done.
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>>4872752
Strip naked, rape and kill whatever's tailing us, then proceed to the rest of the station! There are obvious reasons we should do this.
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>>4873161
I'm not sure, we got off pretty light. $5k in repairs is really not bad.
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Back after 250+ posts, thank fuck that dark blue ID sperg left. Anyone else notice he tried to engage by asking some shallow questions about games and then promptly fucked off when people ignored him like the retard he is?
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>>4873168
wich one?
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>>4873190
This dude:
>>4871162
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>>4873193
jesus chist what a faggot
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>>4871874
>Hehehehehe
Hmm, so we ARE breeding this, right?
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>>4873210
i don't know if we CAN
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>>4873210
>>4873212
We do as Kirk would damnit, we try!
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Hey, what would happen if we made a taser, or a cattle prod?
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>>4873166
5k in repairs, lost cargo, a nuclear incident back on earth...

>>4873268
It would be a melee phaser.
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>>4873271
>>4873270
I want to make Lord Palpatine Jokes. And every time an enemy scream what the hell we're talking about, our only reply shall be UNLIMITED POOOOOOOWAAAAAAAAH!
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>>4873074
>>4873131
Are you retarded?
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>>4873270
Aah, hadn't thought about the lost cargo. As for the nuclear incident, who cares?

That does remind me that the easiest/simplest way to take down China/Russia and solidify the West's power is probably to just to take down Chinese and Russian satellites while we're cloaked. Give the USA uncontested control of the highest ground.
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>>4872752
It's slight. Ever so slight, but you can hear it.
The light patter of bare feet against metal.

You do your best not to tense any muscles, move your eyes or change your breathing pattern at all. Nothing that would give you away.
He draws closer and closer, until you hear him stop. That's when you strike.

You reach out as quickly as you can, and find your hand wrapped around something slimy and invisible.
There's a needle floating in the air. Your other hand lashes out, and you hear the crunching of bone.

"GYAAAAAAAAAAAH!"

Whatever he is, he screeches as he slowly becomes visible. Patterns of color dance across his skin wildly around the point where you broke his arm.
You clench down on this throat, and the screeching stops.

Almost too late, you notice that he has more than one pair of arms. When you broke the upper arm, the needle he had dropped down to the lower arm!
He's about to stab you with it, so you throw him hard against the far wall.

To your surprise though, he doesn't smash against it and break some bones. Instead, he sticks to the wall and starts turning invisible again!
He then proceeds to scurry through an open door into the hallway. It would be hard to get a shot off on him if he moves like that... but you've got a better idea.

"Computer, close and seal all doors on this ship."

"Confirmed, all doors have been sealed."

"Can you detect another life form on this ship besides me and my crew?"

"Negative, captain."

"Alright. Max out the gravity in every room except for the bunk room for ten seconds, then return to 1g."

"Confirmed. Diverting power to gravity generator."

Five gees of gravity slam into you like a truck. You groan as you go from weighing 240lbs to 1200lbs over the course of a few seconds.
But you were ready for that... sort of. You're still standing, just barely. But ten seconds might have been a bit too long... it's really uncomfortable, and if you fell right now it would hurt more than a little.

But the timer does finally end, and then you see exactly what you were looking for.
In the opposite corner of the room, the alien that attacked you is splattered against the floor with some nasty-looking injuries.
Little bastard only pretended to leave the room, as you figured. He's still alive, but unconscious for the moment.

After unsealing the doors, you drag him into the medical room and strap him down to the table.

"Let's see now... what can we get out of you?"

...

Yawning, Cylia walks out of the bunk room to find you washing up.

"Good morning, David. What are you covered in?"

"You don't wanna know. Anyways, i got some information about the bastards who attacked me the other day."

"Oh? What did you find?"

"A few names, a few places. Not everything i wanted but it's a start. I'm gonna be heading back down to Zakera soon, if you want to join me."

"Great, sounds like a wonderful time. Can't we have some breakfast first?"

"...Sure. How does fruit-filled nutrient paste waffles and jelly sound?"
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>>4873320
Had to reload and forgot my image. Here's your would-be assassin.
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>>4873320
Ha! Little bastards never expect the gravity chamber trick.
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>>4873326
Oh god....SOMEONE MAKE NUKES, DISNEY CAN NOT FIND OUT ABOUT THIS!
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>>4873320
Kek, Gravity is natures equalizer.
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>>4873326
>the mouse is after us even in space
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>>4873326
> The Mouse confirmed alien plant.
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>>4873320
I wonder if that needle would have even pierced the skin. The Grays had to triple the pressure in their injection thingy IIRC, would have been funny if this slimy fucker had ineffectively tried multiple times.

Still, better safe than sorry.
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>>4873341
Sounds like we need power armor to be safe from these sorts of things. Or at least carbon nanofiber sheet subdermal implants.
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>>4873343
a bodyglove would also do just fine
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>>4873326
Actually, he look kinda tasty….
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>>4873343
>power armor
>to protect from needles
Does David just really, *really* hate needles?
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>>4873358
We can cookout later, after we find a new planet to crash on. Pretty sure we wouldn't get away making a spitroast on the ship, or the Space Station.
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>>4873360
I guess it was a Freudian slip I DO hate needles that much
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Alright. We would need a ton of salt to dry the slimi meat but i think we could do. I do wonder what are the moral problems of it, in David's eyes.
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>>4873371
That's fair, injections suck.
>>4873378
It ain't human, it tried to kill him, it jumped on his ship, and it made a mess. Yeah, that's pretty eat worthy to me.
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>>4873378
The idea did cross his mind, but he's not a fan of it.
As far as he's concerned, the smarter something is the less you should probably eat it, unless you're starving.
He wouldn't be above cannibalism if it was to save his life, but he wouldn't eat a sentient being just because he wants a steak.
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>>4873387
So no Saiyan human horror in space then?
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>>4873388
Not likely.
Animals though? Fair game.
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>>4873378
>>4873387
Something something food chain, something something concentration.
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>>4873389
Time to find some spices and salt then, we grilling in space at some point. And the meat is anything and anything.
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>>4873387
We need to ask the computer to pull up information regarding this kind of alien, and we need to check if theres a bounty on them.
We should also determine if these aliens can be detected with motion and thermal sensors.
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>>4873396
Does infrared even work on amphibians?
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>>4873407
Probably, I think radar is preferred. I am no marine biologist.
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>>4873407
a quick googles search tells me that amphibians don't maintain a constant body temperature, so infrared likely wouldn't work very well.

But you know, it was a google search. Don't quote me on this
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>>4873412
"But you know, it was a google search."
>Anon, 6/16/2021 circa 1200 CST
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>>4873421
Aw god dammit.
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>>4873341
wonder if we can inject a tracker/explosive in him without him knowing we did it.

Tell him to tell his employers that we're coming after them after breaking half his arms. Track him going back and then just explode him from the inside.
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>>4873421
Legend
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>>4873421
Carved into the annals of time, no going back now.
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>>4873341
I think it's best to assume that the aliens are capable of learning eventually instead of letting ourselves get surprised eventually
>>4873396
I think ambient sonar within the ship at a pitch none of the crew can hear would work. Maybe combined with a holographic display? Won't be on all the time, but It'll be useful for tracking invaders as time goes or our ship gets bigger

Or we strap him down in the medical room to have the AI analyze exactly how this stealth works in order to copy it before he's released to the authorities
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>>4873590
That's not really useful for when we're inside the station and away from the ship. I was thinking something more portable.

Scanning might not be nessassary if there is already info in the space internet explore.
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Wow, this quest is picking up steam! 600 posts already :)
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>>4873603
Learn what light wavelengths he can perceive. Have a HUD that scans along those wavelengths because that species isn't going to camouflage to blend in with something they can't see.
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>>4873620
That's assuming the lizard alien thing relies on light waves for stealth, on not obtuse "alien" biological defense mechanism. I'm telling you. Just Boogle(tm).
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Was that thing a predator?
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>>4873630
We have a ship designed to figure out how random weirdo aliens work designed for aliens probably dumber than us. I fail to see the problem here. Given that this is a black ops ship and it was incapable of detecting us, what we have here is prime material for upgrading the stealth capabilities of the ship at bare minimum. We might even be able to make stealth suits out of this dude via cloning his skin in vats.
I'm personally assuming the skin works like a cuttlefish where the skin itself has eyes built into it to sense what colour should be camouflaged into.
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>>4873590

Hey, yeah our ship is specced for figuring out the way alien biology ticks so let's get to dissecting.

Well partial dissecting, we shouldn't kill him until we know whether he has a bounty or not.
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>>4873639
Nope, just a sneaky boi.
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>>4873648
Injuries are no problem. Just do basic scans while he's whole and then sever an arm under the guise of it being a reminder not to fuck with us since lesser actions (like the previous asskickings) weren't enough to get idiots to back off.
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>>4873653
The little guys arent the ones we want to bully. It's their boss we should be after. We could rough him up into telling us about all his friends, their hideouts, caches of loot, sweatshops, etc. Then we cash in the info for big bucks.
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>>4873650
we need to invest in better security. Assassins are the worst :p
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>>4873665
Just wire the grenade's pin to the door. Can't go wrong with the classics.
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>>4873669
Doesn't help with critters that can stick close but be undetected and would just go in the door with us, exactly like the one we just dealt with.
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>>4873669
let's just hope no one sleepwalks around here. otherwise, we'll be one crewmate (Waifu) down.
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>>4873669

>>4873678
>>4873683
We should probably use a flashbang, then
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>>4873669
Nobody would see it coming, genius.
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>>4873700
If the alien comes pre-lubed, would that include his ass?
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>>4873697
What about that riot pellet mine, the one with an assload of rubber balls?
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>>4873702
Uhhh, maybe? If the slime coating itself is the thing throwing off the sensors, then I can only imagine it secretes from any pore or hole not in use. Did we sell off the Grey Anal probes, or do we have any left?
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>>4873703
Considering how squishy the aliens are, it might cause lethal harm.
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>>4873669
Boobytrapping your own house is a good way to get killed when lemon scented candles in our bedroom would make most enemies collapse in a hacking cough.
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>>4873708
Okay, but what if we made them really small, shit, what about Home Aloneing this ship? Is their any that would at least, NOT, be horribly lethal? At least to the species we met so far anyways?
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>>4873711
Where would we find lemons though?
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>>4873715
Well the thing you have to understand, most riot weaponry and "nonlethal" weaponry is EXPLICITLY "less-lethal", and not actually nonlethal. For example, someone could have an allergic reaction to tear gas, or you could swing too hard with a baton and crack someone's head open.

If it's explicitly "less lethal" for humans, it's probably actually lethal for aliens.
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>>4873718
Eventually we're gonna find a fabricator that can reverse engineer materials via looking at our sense of taste.We also STILL didn't bother checking the cargo hold to see if there is any earth contraband on board.

>>4873715
Air conditioning. We get some winter or fall clothes (maybe some built in heat pads for our crew?) that we put on when first going into the ship and have the more normal temperatures in the common/sleeping quarters depending on the size of the ship. Any invaders that die, did so because they willingly committed suicide via going into an unlivable environment.
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>>4873721
Shit. So what about a wall of really weak tasers?
>>4873730
>We also STILL didn't bother checking the cargo hold to see if there is any earth contraband on board.
To be fair, it was irradiated to hell an back, so its not like we could really do anything until the repairs were done, and anything in there would be, you know, radioactive.
>Air conditioning. We get some winter or fall clothes (maybe some built in heat pads for our crew?) that we put on when first going into the ship and have the more normal temperatures in the common/sleeping quarters depending on the size of the ship. Any invaders that die, did so because they willingly committed suicide via going into an unlivable environment.
That sounds real nice an comfy actually, it would give our crew members an excuse to steal our clothes to sleep in, and an excuse to share bunks to keep warm. Your brilliant.
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>>4873754
I think we should just straight up look into methods of crowd/riot control that were abandoned for not being effective enough.
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>>4873755
Um, I can't think of any, that Microwave gun would be lethal alot of them.
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>>4873762
Idea. You know those modded nerf guns that hurt like a bitch? Something like that.
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>>4873768
Okay, so, what if, and follow me on this, we use plastic rounds...wait a damn minuet, PAINTBALL GUNS! Or Airsoft, it works too. But with Paintball guns we can make custom ammo.
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>>4873320
Let's save the needle and jam it into the eye of the guy who wanted us dead
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>>4873777
do we have dog whistle on us it might cause any intruders to go down
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>>4873781
Pretty sure we spent the time torturing him.
>>4873782
Yeah, but we also have a cute Catgirl and Goblin girl with us, both of whom have big ears. Not really viable unless we are on our own. Unless we use it as a alternative to a flare? That could work, they would get mad if we accidentally set the place on fire trying to get their attention.
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>>4873311
>All our satellites and our satellites neighbor's go down.
>Wests and American satellites perfectly fine
>Blame west and America
>???
>Profit?

>>4873412
>>4873407
>>4873396
Motion sensors, air pressure change or consumption, pressure sensor on the walls floors or ceiling, maybe even pheromone sensors? I think radar has a pretty good chance to work, or a mini sonar even.
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>>4873642
>>4873648
We totally need to give the alienboi the grey treatment and make a adaptive camo suit.
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>>4873942
Monofilament wire screen doors. You walk into it and become shredded cheese.
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>>4873946
I'd rather we have a more active home security system rather than something that can hurt us or our crew by mistake. We can also vent atmosphere and have a room fill with gas or attach flamethrower turrets or energy beam that can fill and sterilize entire rooms in seconds.

Alternatively we can make a sort of laser net like in the resident evil move. I'd rather not have mono fibers that can break off and start floating around the ship and cause problems.

Plus we can have an ever vigilant AI that can help us secure the ship.
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>>4873954
>something that can hurt us or our crew by mistake.
All that does is help to build caution and strict survival protocols that carry over well into not falling for enemy traps.

Yes. Nothing quite like an open hole over a pit of spikes in your entryway to teach you to watch where you step.
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>>4873954
Or we just put on a big heavy lock since they need industrial (by alien standards) equipment to break down a door.
>>4873961
I'm sure that will work perfectly when we're drunk or high from a botched attempt to kill us.
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>>4873967
>I'm sure that will work perfectly when we're drunk or high from a botched attempt to kill us.
Well maybe you shouldn't let them try to kill you. Duh.
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>>4873967
Yeah, that's actually a great idea, I have no idea why we didn't think of this earlier. There're locks out there that can take .50 cal fire and remain closed, it wouldn't be a bad idea to pick one up when we drop by earth.
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>>4873967
Doubt we need padlocks on a spaceship and the doors probably would need hinges welded on them. We can just have like manually opened doors and have them installed with a "lock" function. I 'm fairly certain most surfaces on the grey ship are smooth and flat.

Keep in mind the others are not human and won't share our constant vigilance and being on guard. We're soldiers, the girls are civilians. They didn't sign up for the crazy shit we are planning, and the short stack goblin girl seems a bit too clumsy for my comfort to be putting passive killing traps around the place.

I'd rather more active computer or sensor activated traps, defenses, and security systems with the options of kill, stun, capture, or put to sleep. It gives us more options and flexibility on what to do to "guests" onboard.
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>>4873967
So what kind of lock are you thinking, some kind of puzzle lock?
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>>4873997
Anon, we want a manual lock because no one in their right minds will learn how to pick manual locks.

>>4874018
No, puzzle locks are meant to be solved.

I nominate either a Squire lock or a Bowley lock. The former for good pick resistance and absurd destructive entry resistance, and the latter for good destructive entry resistance and absurd pick resistance.
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>>4874025
I don't know, how would we even mount the damn thing, turn the entrance into a literal garage door?
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>>4874038
Only if it has a stupidly loud action when it opens.
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>>4873320
You know... we should probably get that hypodermic needle checked out. See what's in the thing. Maybe also check the gauge and material to see if it was even able to inject us.
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>>4873975
That's the problem with these laws. They can basically send as much canon fodder as they want against us and we can't accidentally kill them back or else we get hunted down by the galactic police. Until they manage to get something capable of killing us on purpose or accident, they can pretend it was just regular old assault. Either the laws were stacked against carnivore species, or we need a space lawyer program to question on hypotheticals.
Eg, the limits of self defense. Can we cryogenically freeze anyone that tried to kill us indefinetly.
>>4874038
We could just use it for a panic room/armoury since only we can deal with any mild fumes. Lure some unsuspecting bastard into a place we can survive that they can't.
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>>4874057
Question is, where can we hire a good space lawyer? We'll probably need one on crew.
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Hey op have there been more instances of humans getting kidnaped by greys?
because i pray to whichever poor soul tried kidnaping officer Clegane
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>>4874052
It was a big syringe full of insecticide.
He was trying to kill you.
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>>4874044
>>4874057
So, maybe expanding the ship with scrap we find and make a Space Hulk?
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>>4874074
That pic gives me an idea. BTW, what the general consensus on ideas? I lost track.

>>4874077
If we got a force field and had it concentrated around a forearm shield, would that make the shield kinda stronger since it wouldnt have to protect your whole body, just the shield?

I mean would the poison had killed David?
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>>4874074
Jesus Christ, who the fuck is that, and why is he not the Mountain's Stunt Double?
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>>4874074
holy fuck its giga cop
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>>4874086
We could maybe try cutting up several ships into modular parts and try to piece then back together like a space mosaic. It sounds like it could be a ton (kek) of fun. Alternatively we could just have a fleet of ships.
In star wars they had this globe merchant ship where those vulture droids would cling to the ceilings or exterior of the ship to save some space. We could maybe try doing something like that: jurry-rig several cargo/biggest class space hulks together.
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>>4874087
if its earth insecticide definitely
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>>4874086
We could plan on turning a meteor somewhere out there into a private base for ourselves, give it a small ship construction yard at first and such, plus it would be a place to call home away from earth, it could be our outer heaven
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>>4874104
I mean if we find wherever this guy's owners/contractees/bosses are, we could buy some powerful thrusters, attach them to an asteroid, and send it to their base
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>>4874087
IDK why people forget armour exists/ We can just get chainmail made and it wouldn't even make us break a sweat considering that marines are trained to carry at least 100 pounds of equipment on them at all times.
>>4874077
So basically a bunch of caffeine to ruin our sleep and make us be up all ight hunting gangsters?
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>>4874088
>>4874095
Some random gigachad cop people took pics off, they didnt have a name so they named him officer clegane
Heres another guy they called clegane, look at the bat
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>>4874104
Someone write this down, write it down now! This anon has the right idea. This is where we're take our war veteran human recruits, those among all societies. All the cripples, homeless, and scared that were chewed up and spat out by their respective government.
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>>4874112
Something like this?
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>>4874104
One asteriod is worth more than the entire world GDP. We could literally just tow a few into our yard and become the richest people on the planet.
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>>4874113
Chainmail is really, really oldschool. Composite, ceramics, alloys, and laser/phaser tolerant aerogel armor would be liege better that chainmail.
I dont think anyone has forgotten about armor, it's just that chainmail is less than idea. Plus all that noise makes it hard to sneak.
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>>4874096
We will freak out space stations with or DIY Space Hulk, Grey Base, edition.
>In star wars they had this globe merchant ship where those vulture droids would cling to the ceilings or exterior of the ship to save some space. We could maybe try doing something like that: jurry-rig several cargo/biggest class space hulks together.
We start looting ships of their drones, nothing but their drones. Then we go out to pirate wrecks, fighting other ships to make wrecks, just get ship parts together. And then we use our drones to carve and harvest their ship graves.
>>4874104
We are Soldiers Without Borders, we stole a slice of the Heavens, were there is no such thing as prey or predator, only Soldiers, and if you are with us, we shall be the greatest allies you could wish from our gods. But invoke our wrath, and then vilest devils will weep openly for your poor soul.
>>4874114
Fucking based, the one good thing BLMTIFA riots did was bring out the actual fit police officers that deserve a uniform. The fat ones are pathetic.
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>>4874118
That too. We could in theory buy out Earth, or at least some countries. You know, rule the world by being the only one who controls all the space ports.
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>>4874120
Your problems are solved by cloth and/or putting on something ABOVE it, and the fact that nothing around here hits hard enough to warrant extra most of the time.
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>>4874118
Yep, plus if we are building any asteroid bases we would be also digging out the resources inside said asteroid, then use the asteroid as a mining base, the benefits of asteroid bases are very nice
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>>4874126
Wearing clothes over chainmail still wont make it any quieter. There are some bullet proof vest that can be worn comfortably under clothes.
Are we still talking about chainmail? Oh theres also the fact they wont hold against phasers.
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>>4874025
But why give them a lock to pick in the first place?
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>>4874166
Why give them a life to live trying to pick the lock we gave them in the first place?
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>>4874166
Because we need to enter the room as well, and odds are they're going to have better luck hacking it than picking an actual lock.
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>>4874257
An alien wouldn't even recognize a physical lock as a lock.
It would be like having a caveman point at two sticks and expecting them to know what to do with it.
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>>4874318
Aliens confirmed zoomers
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>>4874324
kek
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>>4874324
Aliens be like "hey some1 3d printed the save icon!"
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>>4874087
It would have made you extremely sick, and led to an interesting chain of events.
As for the energy riot shield, yes. It would be a lot stronger.

>>4874057
The laws are a lot looser and vague out in space. Sadia corp running the station from the "shadows" isn't an uncommon thing, and even with faster than light travel, great distances make for serious isolation.
What you do on one station doesn't tend to get you in trouble on another, and that leads to a lot of career criminals.

It's not until you do something really stupid and dangerous that you get the attention of a higher power, and then every station knows you're trouble.
Even then though, you can just leave federation space and keep doing the same shit. It's just rougher living, because the really crazy fuckers like you don't get shot down out there.
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>>4874324
>we turn our space ship into a stick shift
THEFT

PROOF
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>>4874342
Your evil and I like it.
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>>4874335
POWER SHIELD CONFIRMED! Let's make one lads.

>>4874342
Only use Nokia phones for communication. They're virtually indestructible, and they cant be hacked.
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>>4874375
You could even smash shit with it.
Energy shields are useless on the scale of a ship when it comes to ramming, but you could knock people's lights out all day with a modified shield like that.
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>>4874318
Then that means that we clearly need to do it. I just want to sneak up on someone as they try to get into our room, as they have no idea how to work the lock.

We don't even stop them, we just catch them have a mental breakdown over how the door works.
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>>4874380
I now have an idea.
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>>4874397
yeeeeessss
Y Y Y Y E E E E E E E S S S S S S S!
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>>4874380
I have a question.

You know the weapons from the latest Doom game? The crucible and the hammer? Could we use an energy shield emitter to make something similar?

I don't have pics but a google search should show what I'm talking about.
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>>4874397
SWB OPEN UP, YOU MAY CHOSE HOW TO DIE!
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>>4874402
A Shield Hammer should work just fine. We can make power weapons. But we need a hammer head and handle to hold the power source.
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>>4874402
>>4874407
Fuck it. Fuck guns.
WE POWER FIELD WEAPONS NOW!
None of the aliens ever consider going into melee combat. We shall be the exception.
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>>4874407
Of course, the idea is something like pic related
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>>4873320

After breakfast, you and Cylia exit the ship. Cylia seems refreshed, but you didn't sleep last night and end up yawning a bit.

"You sure you want to do this right now? You were up late torturing that guy."

"So you knew, huh?"

"Oh please. Kyla might sleep like a rock, but i have good ears. You were really working on him in there."

"Heh, yeah. I had to start off by stuffing his organs back into him. He could turn invisible, so i cranked the gravity up to five gees on his ass."

"Good gods above! Why does it even go that damn high? And how are you not dead?"

"I've had more weight on me than that before. Big girls need love too, you know? And they really appreciate it."

"I half understand what you meant there, but i can't really imagine it. I don't think i want to, either."

"Ah yeah, it's for the best. You guys have a real clean internet out here, from what i've seen so far."

"Did you turn off safesearch?"

"...Shit."

...

Now in Zakera ward, you make your way towards a run down building that doesn't look much different from all the rest.

"Should be in there. Apartment 2B. No telling how many of them there might be."

"Still got those flashbangs Kyla made?"

"One more."

"Alright... that's an option. What if there's only one in there, and the others are waiting in the nearby apartments? Then you'll have wasted it."

"We could breach and clear. I brought less-lethal rounds, and a phaser pistol."

"Stolen from Laggard?"

"Yep. Seems fine, i tried it out a couple times on Randall."

"Who's Randall?"

"Our new friend, back in the ship. It's not his real name, but i'm not calling him anything else."

"Okay. So breach and flash, or breach and clear? What else have we got?"

"I could spray them all down with my AR without ever opening the door."

"Mass murder, technically an option. I doubt it'll get us far, though."

"Why do we need to think so hard on it? Let's just beat their asses."

"I dunno... the higher up you go, the more likely you are to fight against other predators. If this is really the guy your assassin was working for, he might have serious backup."

"I'm confident i won't lose, even against one of my own. And from what i've seen the past week, i'm pretty hot shit compared to most aliens."

"Yeah, they all say that at first... although i'll admit, you're really strong. And fast. Not so sure about your intelligence."

"I liked the yellow flavored ones best."

"What?"

"Nothing. Anyways, i'm sure we can take them. If it comes down to it i'll just kill them and we'll have to start over from the next guy who tries to kill me."

"Great! That's great. Remind me why i'm working with you again?"

"Lots of money and protection from thugs."

"Thugs that we're now going to go fight."

"Right."

Cylia just sighs and continues following alongside you.
The entrance to the building is guarded. It doesn't look like it, but you can tell by how the hobo sitting at the entrance is watching you. So you slam his head into the steel wall.
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>>4874421
>>4874423
Guys, what sword do we make to strap this power field too.
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>"I liked the yellow flavored ones best."
ow fuck you bitch. my sides.

>>4874436
Sword? We're going for the good ol hammer. We're gonna swing a mini-bus at people until there's nothing but a fine bloody mist left.
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>>4874434
>Randal
I swear if you bring a Disney lawsuit of all things in the future, you caused this.
>"I liked the yellow flavored ones best."
God damn it Marine. Your supposed to love the green!
>Lets reenact the Raid.
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>>4874449
Okay, but, my rebuttle.
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>>4874457
I can work with this, yeah. If we can get some Bloodborne tier weapon combos going, I'd be down for that.
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And just for fun before i go to bed, a relative height comparison chart.
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>>4874464
The hammer is a sheath and power source, locking the blade in makes it activate and we swing for the fences,
>>4874475
>Hamsters eating bananas intensifies
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>>4874482
just the right size
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>>4874490
>Shortstack Goblin lives with easy access
And life moves on, balanced and true.
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>>4874434
>not enjoying the superior red ones
SHAKE
MY
HEAD
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>>4874558
the orange ones are objectively the best.
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>>4874564
Grey ones. Timberwolf specifically.
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gotta be the ones that you can smell from far away. >>4874568 d9d6cf is the most uninspired color there is
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>>4874567
o r a n g e
c r e a m s i c l e
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>>4874574
Those aren't crayons those are colored pencils. Idiot.
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>>4874583
>>4874580
>>4874578
>>4874574
>>4874568
>>4874567
>>4874564
>>4874558
CAN YOU CHUCKLEFUCKS STOP EATING THE DAMN OFFICE SUPPLIES?!
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>>4874659
If they weren't meant to be eaten then why do they taste so damn good?
Checkmate atheists.
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>>4874659
They give them out for free.
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>>4874659
WAIT THEY HAVE THESE IN OFFICE GRADE? I've been taking all mine from the local schoolchildren. Fuck!
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>>4874698
So that is where all my baby candy went?
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>>4874708
Look man if they've got them sitting in the sand at the playground it's fair game.
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>>4874434
Is this a call for a vote?

If so then save the flashbang for if reinforcements come.
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>>4874434
>>4874659
>>4874698

Goddammit, I love this quest.

>>4874397
Like the legions of yore, let's annihilate xenos the old fashioned way.
America Aeterna Victrix.
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>>4874752
good ol' "marines eat crayons" i hope that joke continues for many years
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I dunno about having a hammerhead made of energy or whatever the shields are made of. Hammers are a weight on a stick, so if you make the hammerhead out of energy you leave out the proper weight, right? Then all you have is a weirdly shaped stick.

Now, if a power field weapon like >>4874421 suggests works anything like the ones from WH40K I'd be down for it.
BUT my personal choice would be a gravity hammer of some sort. Dunno if we could get one that works like the ones from Halo though.

>>4874457
I really like the idea of having our own Kirkhammer but we would need a strong suit of Power Armor to swing it in high gravity. And even then it'd be awkward to use.
Unfortunately physics still exists in space.
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>>4875085
>I really like the idea of having our own Kirkhammer but we would need a strong suit of Power Armor to swing it in high gravity
Not really, if we keep the head a realistic size, plus whatever components necessary for the power field, we should still be able to us it, as our world has the highest gravity so far.
>And even then it'd be awkward to use.
>Unfortunately physics still exists in space.
That's what the sword is for.
>>4874669
>>4874676
>>4874688
>>4874698
>>4874708
>>4874713
WHY AM I EVEN FUCKING BOTHERING WITH YOU ROIDED OUT TODDLERS?!
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>Not really, if we keep the head a realistic size
Aaah riiight right, I assumed we'd be sizing it up faithfully to the source material (pic for scale)
But if we scale it down to make the hammer actually usable I've got no complaints. Can't go wrong with a knock-off Thunder Hammer.

Sure hope we can find some strong alien metal alloy to help with the structural integrity, if we're really going forward with the combi-weapon aspect. Sometimes, plain steel just ain't enough
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>>4875163
lmao just wait until our MC out about the holo-crayons, hes gonna have a field day with them
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>>4875176
>Aaah riiight right, I assumed we'd be sizing it up faithfully to the source material
We can make a second hammer head layer from whatever exo suit we make, oooor, we do gravity training to swing it ourselves. But regardless, at the rate we are ripping or cracking alien metals, we may have to make our own fucking steel at this point. Unless we can find some tungsten....
>>4875180
God damnit this is why I hate you crayon munchers, I DON'T CARE IF I'M COURT MARSHALLED, YOU FUCKS EAT OUT MY DESK LIKE MCDONALDS, AND I'LL SHOOT YOUR DUMBASSES!
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>>4874580
IT SAYS CRAYON IN THE BOX
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>>4874580
https://youtu.be/n36eLFCw4TI?t=12
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>>4874434

"David! What was that about?!"

"He's one of them."

"What? How can you tell? He just looks like a bum to me."

"You can tell a lot by watching a man's eyes. Humans call them the windows of the soul for a reason."

"You're starting to sound like one of those creepy Vecna pries-"

You cover Cylia's mouth as you hear something. She's about to complain, but you can see her ears twitch as she picks up on it too.
Faint footsteps in the rooms above. Lots of them.

"...I've got one more option we could try. No telling if it'll kill them or not, though."

You reach into one of the pockets of your cargo shorts and pull out a gas grenade.
Cylia cringes as she remembers the discomfort just the residual vapors had caused her.
This stuff is a lot more diluted, but it's also completely untested.

"Have you got the masks?"

"They're in my pack."

"Then it's up to you, David."

>Breach and clear
>Breach and flash
>Gas them

Also, pick one.

>No kill run
>Fuck 'em
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>>4875274
>Gas them
It's a new trick

>Fuck 'em
Wine n' Dine em first of course
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>>4875274
>Gas them
>Fuck 'em
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>>4875274
>>Gas them
>Fuck 'em
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>>4875274
>Gas them
>Fuck 'em
GAS GAS GAS, IMMA STEP ON THE GAS!
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>>4875274
>Gas them
>Fuck 'em
geneva suggestion do your magic
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>>4875274
>Gas them
>No kill run
Killing is an issue with the authorities if we're not acting in self-defense or taking out a bounty. Let's try to avoid it if possible, should be much easier if we're gassing them.
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>>4875292
Not so much in Zakera ward. Deaths frequently occur down there any nobody cares.
A lot of deaths like this would draw some attention, but authorities (read: Sadia) would be more than happy to ignore it since it was a hit on Dark Star.
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>>4875274
>Gas them
>No kill run
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>>4875274
>Gas them
>No kill run
Don't wanna accidentally splatter someone against a wall, only to learn that was the guy that had the best info
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>>4875274
>Breach and clear
>Fuck 'em

I just want some gun action, also, since they tried to kill us twice already I don’t want to have a second Greys situation and give them undue mercy so that i can bite us in the ass later on.

I’ll point out that using Gas inside the stations might be worse than killing in regard to local authorities though.
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>>4875320
This should ideally be diluted enough to just result in runny noses and itchy eyes. Not really burning levels.
For us it shouldn't even be close to onion.

Other people might just think there's a chemical leak or something from a drug operation.
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>>4875274
gas'n'fuck
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>>4875274
>Gas them
>No kill run
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>>4875274
>Gas them
>No kill run

We probably get more money if we turn them in alive.
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>>4875274
>Gas them
>Fuck 'em
If we can get away with fucking these guys than no reason not to
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>>4875274
>Gas them
>No kill run

We can kill them after we do some enhanced interrogation
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"Fuck em" wins it.
Don't worry, you know what the man you want looks like.
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>>4875295
>ignore it since it was a hit on Dark Star.
ohohohoho so now we know the name of the ones backing Laggart
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>>4875915
Laggard has a personal grudge. This is unrelated.
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>>4875921
oh, so !randall was sent by dark star but that is not related to the pirate. Yeeeeze why did David made enemies with them, it's not like he has been stomping and punching his way around the station
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>>4875274

"Alright. I'm tossing this up the stairs, and then we're going to wait outside for a minute. Go ahead and put your mask on, i'm still not sure how strong this is gonna be for you."

"I still can't believe humans use that stuff on eachother undiluted..."

"Hurry up, no telling when they're gonna move."

While Cylia seals her mask against her face, you pull the pin on your tear gas grenade and toss it up the staircase. You hear it roll across the ground on the floor above, and then it starts hissing.
You don't technically need a mask, but you put yours on as well anyways. It's still uncomfortable, even if it's just at the level of chopping onions.

After waiting about ten minutes, you motion Cylia to follow you up the stairs, gun drawn.
There's no need to spare people who want you dead. That's just asking for trouble.

The first thing you see after turning the corner is a man collapsed on the floor, breathing heavily and clutching at his... gills. It's not who you're looking for.
One shot to the head finishes him off. Blood splatters everywhere as the large and heavy .45 bullet puts a gaping hole in his rather squishy-looking tentacled face.
Cylia jumps despite being prepared and having her ears plugged. Her hearing must be really good after all.

You kick down the first door in the hall, sending it flying across the room as it fragments into plastic shards. They really need to make these things thicker.
In the room there are two more people collapsed on the floor, and one barely standing. He points his phaser at you and fires, but he's totally blind right now.

You casually walk up and smash his head against the wall with the back of your forearm. The steel panel wall is dented from the impact, and the man doesn't move after falling.
One of the men on the floor kind of matches the description you're looking for, so you flip him over and take a closer look at his face. Not him, he's got both his eyes.
All three men get a bullet. You're pretty sure the guy you slammed was dead, but it never hurts to make sure.

It goes like that, room after room after room. Sometimes someone's still up and able to fight back. Sometimes they've already stopped breathing.
No matter what though, they all get a bullet. You're driving home a point right now, that you're not to be fucked with.

"I... I'm sorry, David... i just can't do this."

"What's the matter? Is your mask not sealing?"

"No, that's not it. I just don't want to watch you kill all of these people. I'm sorry, i need to step out."

Now that you look more closely, she does seem pretty sick. Maybe she wasn't jumping at the sound of the gunshots after all.

"...Alright. Keep an eye out. We don't know if they called for reinforcements. I'll come help if you yell for me."

After Cylia leaves you keep clearing room after room, until you get to the final one at the end of the hall.
You're about to go in, but something stops you.

You stand there for a bit, just staring at the door. Something's off.
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>>4875980
Damn David is a cold cat eh? Absolute killing machine. Rad.

But I was thinking. If you got a proper chemist, someone who knows all about atomic bonds and how different structures and shapes of them can influence the qualities of materials. And you hooked them up to one of the magical imagination fabricators. Could he picture different variations of atomic bonds to create hypothetical alloys and materials?
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>>4876016
Easily.

Of course, that sort of thing can go wrong very easily.
It would be best to have a remote setup if you're going to have a human chemist playing around with a nanofab.
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>>4876020
>Of course, that sort of thing can go wrong very easily.

>laughs in unstable atomic structures creating a hyper-reactive explosive compound
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>>4876027
More nitrogens is better, right?
I mean, surely there's not such a thing as TOO MANY nitrogens. Surely.
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>>4875980
We must seem like the strangest mixture of altruism and absolute savagery to Cylia. We helped her out when she tried to steal our wallet, and then here we are a few weeks later systematically and calmly murdering dozens of people.

Don't get me wrong, this is what they get and deserve. You don't try to kill someone and not expect retaliation. I guess I'm just surprised she's this soft after having been kicked down to rock bottom by these fucks we're so kindly taking out for her.

Besides, we knew doing it this way was kind of overkill. It's going to start a legend though and significantly add to our notoriety, we're not doing it /just/ because we're a cold blooded killer.
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>>4876031
If you can count the number of nitrogen atoms on one hand it's too few, clearly.

Really though that's unbelievably rad. Might be able to find some downright mythical metals with it. Or wacky fuel sources. Maybe even the universe's most vibrant shade of electric blue for the slickest paint job this side of the third dimension.
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>>4876033
I strongly dislike all the evidence we are leaving behind, bullet and maybe shell casing if its not a revolver. Probably would be more terrifying if we started smacking them all to death with a medieval mace.
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>>4876039
Just start doing that old fashioned kung fu shit and stab people to death with your fingertips. As they say in my overly romanticized mobile pencil shaving television programs "Your fist is a hammer, your fingers spears, your hand a blade.".
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>>4875980
The people on the other side either have gas masks or some type of explosive hooked up. I suggest throwing in a flashbang
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>>4876049
Throw one of the corpses full force through the door from a distance.
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>>4875980
Damn son. Keep it quick a clean. Try snapping their necks. It'll leave less of a mess and you don't have to waste a bullet. Besides that good hunting killer.

>>4876057
nah nah what you want is the kick down the door, but use a corpse as a meat shield.
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>>4876082
I agree, use a corpse as a shield. Perhaps we should keep one alive if they are in there for interrogation purposes.
Other then that I wonder what our nickname is going to be after this massacre
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>>4875980
>Grab one of the bigger corpses and hold them up as a meat-shield, then kick the door in
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>>4876031
What's the current gravity in this section of the station? Could we buy some sort of multi-tool or HUD that tells us the local gravity?
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>>4876082
>nah nah what you want is the kick down the door, but use a corpse as a meat shield.
Why even bother being near the door when you can trigger any traps from a safe(r) distance? For all we know there is a guy right next to the door with a plasma torch.
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>>4875980
>We know better than to go through the door. KOOL AID MAN ATTACK.
I am also against using people as shields. At least keep some semblance of acting like a proper marine.
The other thing I thought of was just shooting through the plastic, but if the bullets travel too far we might get collateral damage that can get us in actual trouble.
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>>4876107
They're not people anymore if they're dead. They're just lumps of meat now.
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Alright, let's take it to a vote for tomorrow's update.
What do you want to do?

>Use a body as a shield
>Leave what's next up to me

Also, roll me 1d100, best of three.
Lower is in fact better, this time.
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Rolled 11 (1d100)

>>4876111
It reflects poorly on our drill serjeant, ethically, socially, and everything is so fragile that all you're doing is putting an exploding gore balloon in front of us that will blind us when hit or cause us to slip on body fluids/viscera.
>>4876102
Just drop a rock and see how quickly it falls. It's a pretty basic science lesson I think even our crayon eater has had.
>>4876115
>Leave it up to you.
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Rolled 20 (1d100)

>>4876115
>>Leave what's next up to me
We might be brutal, but we need to remain respectable and professional if we want good work.
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Rolled 10 (1d100)

>>4876115
>Use a body as a shield
If the trap was gonna come from outside the room, it would have been sprung already. May as well be ready for him to come out guns blazing.
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>>4876102
0.3 gees, same as the rest of the station.
He can feel the difference.
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>>4876115
>Use a body as a shield
>>4876120
>>4876122
>>4876123
wow
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>>4876131
No one's going to give us a respectable job if we're known as that guy who does shit like this.

I'd rather hire the guy that killed everyone clean than a guy who did the same thing messily.
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>>4876136
Ah yes, cleanly kills everyone. Meanwhile the guy suffering from a fractured skull after an abrupt meeting with a wall and THEN got a new breathing hole in said skull is so clean. The guy who used chemical weaponry, that precise, very containable method of attack. So clean.

Bro what are you talking about?
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>>4876136
>>4876151
face it
We are going to be universally feared
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>>4876151
David "Walking Holocaust" Rockefeller.
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>>4876154
Real shit. If there was some weird ape creature that could casually lift two tons running around killing people it wouldn't matter to me whether he did it by snapping their necks or ripping their limbs off and beating them with em. It's a huge ape that can throw cars around I'm not fucking with it.

>>4876157
Now that's an epithet.
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>>4876115
So.
>>4876120
>>4876122
>>4876123
Did you just predict the rolls this thread were going to be low before posting today?
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>>4876160
It's a theme so far, so i kinda figured.
But that's not why i needed a low roll. It's still your own luck in the end.
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I'm a little disappointed nobody wanted to bust down a wall instead of the door like I had initially voted/suggested.
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>>4876161
Fair, damn good thing you did today.
>But that's not why i needed a low roll. It's still your own luck in the end.
What's that mean. Oh yeah.
>>4876115
>Leave what's next up to me
Actually.
>>4876163
Can we still use this and just charge with a wall of....what the fuck is the building material around here made of anyways?
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>>4876166
The outer walls of the building are thick concrete, and the inner walls are relatively thin sheet metal with thicker steel support beams welded into them.
It's a really shitty building.
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>>4876167
Perfect for a Juggernaut Bitch moment...if anyone were around to get that reference.
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another apex predator maybe more.
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>>4876151
>>4876154
I'd rather be respected AND feared, and I daresay we're more likely to get that if we don't use flimsy alien bodies as shields for no good reason.

Like, seriously, the entire point of using someone else as a shield is that they don't want to kill whoever you're holding so they don't shoot you in the first place, which doesn't work if they're already dead.
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>>4876188
We're not trying to take a hostage, we're trying to get something between us and the trap bad enough to spook David.
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>>4875980
I expected catgirl gf and ayylmao hijinks but got space Hotline Miami.

Not complaining.
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>>4876212
Its a good feeling. Do we have the soundtrack?
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>>4876197
That's what I'M SAYING. The entire point of putting a body that isn't on your side between you and the enemy is that they don't WANT to shoot it.

Which doesn't apply if the body is already dead, and i'd rather not find out that phasers can go through squishy alien bodies and retain enough power to hurt us when we're expecting it to take everything for us.
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>>4876222
Vote to Cool Aid Man it then.
>>4876115
this>>4876163
And Scream Ooooooooh Yeah!
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>>4876232
you know what? fair enough, Kool-Aid Manning it is always great

>>4876115
QM, if you'll allow the vote for kool-aid manning it to go through, I support it
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>>4876270
It's a welded steel wall.
I'll let you kool-aid man it if you can roll me a 95+ right now on a 3d100.
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>>4876273
Not total, mind. As an all-in-one best of 3.
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Rolled 12, 2, 74 = 88 (3d100)

>>4876273
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>>4876279
Oh.
>>4876280
QUICK, MAKE THE MEME REAL!
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>>4876280
The dice gods have spoken.
No kool-aid man for you.
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Rolled 7, 28, 20 = 55 (3d100)

>>4876273
I caught up to this last night and I'm loving it, getting molested by Gobbo when
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Rolled 71, 91, 76 = 238 (3d100)

>>4876273
Trying my luck
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>>4876283
Best of 3.
>>4876286
God damn.
>>4876291
But this
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>>4876222
>The entire point of putting a body that isn't on your side between you and the enemy is that they don't WANT to shoot it.
The entire point of putting anything between you and something with a gun is to protect yourself. Whether that be because you make their weapon less effective, make them unwilling to fire, or just have some meat that will suck up damage first.

That's like saying you shouldn't wear body armor unless it's a bomb vest because they'll still try to shoot you if you're just wearing kevlar.
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>>4876115
>>Leave what's next up to me
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>>4876299
The point I was making is that meat is an ineffective choice for armor unless it's alive, and it's going to do little but slow us down.
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>>4876312
ANY protection is better than no protection.
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>>4876222
The entire point of a meat-shield is that it's going to soak up incoming fire that's meant for you. I don't give a shit about getting the guy to reconsider shooting since we don't have anything that could accomplish that goal.
We're more than likely gonna get shot at no matter what, so we may as well plan with that in mind.
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>>4876294
Dammit, I was hoping posting about gobbo would bribe the dice gods

As an aside, I wonder if humans have comparatively massive genitals like they do when compared to most other earth species
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Rolled 5, 99, 73 = 177 (3d100)

>>4876374
You can't bribe the dice. You just gotta roll with the tide. Watch, all these will be below 31
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>>4876380
Damn dice. I was trying to be cool. Why you gotta play me like this.
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>>4876329
The point I'm trying to make is that meat is shit at blocking incoming fire compared to literally anything else, and that the only benefit of having a body in between you and the other guy is to make him hesitate, which doesn't factor in because the body between us and the other guy will be dead.

And that's human flesh and bone not being effective at stopping incoming fire. These aliens are practically made of paper compared to us and way smaller, and you trust one's body to be more useful than having an extra hand?
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>>4876391
I trust a corpse to soak up phaser fire, not bullets.
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>>4876391
It's still a meat shield.
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>>4876397
that's fair enough but I maintain having a hand free is more useful

>>4876408
The point i've been trying to make is that meat shields are ineffective unless the meatshield is a rhino or something
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>>4876391
The efficacy of human tissue for stopping incoming fire is dependent on multiple factors.

But that doesn't matter because your entire argument hinges on the idea that whoever is behind this door cares enough about anyone outside of it to not immediately shoot in a combat situation.

That's dumb.
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>>4876415
The point I'm trying to make is that the ONE, SINGULAR EFFECTIVE BENEFIT of having a meat shield is ONLY RELEVANT when they're ALIVE AND KICKING, which they ARE NOT.

Please, get my words into your head and develop your argument.
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>>4876424
God just shut the fuck up. You're -wrong-
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>>4876427
Please, explain how. How exactly am I wrong? These weak alien bodies are both too small and too squishy to provide any benefits via actual physical protection, and seeing as they're dead we can't get any protective value over the hesitation that an enemy would feel over shooting at their comrade.

Simple.

Your argument seems to come down to the supposition that the protective benefits of having an alien corpse in front of us will outweigh the negatives of not having a hand free and being able to use either one of our two handed weapons or simply use said hand to attack an eney with.

Until the QM says/shows otherwise, i'll assume we won't have any reasonable protection from these squishy aliens.

>>4876434
That it doesn't. The point i'm trying to make is that of the two benefits of having someone else in front of you, one isn't relevant due to them being dead, and the other is negligible due to aliens being squishy and fragile, and as we would get greater benefit from having two hands to use.
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>>4876434
Don't flirt with the corpses anon. It doesn't matter if they're thicker than a bowl of oatmeal.
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>>4876448
But it's still a meat shield
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>>4876447
You stupid fucking mong. Everyone has been telling you why you're wrong. You just don't want to accept it because in that empty fucking gourd you call a skull you won't listen to anything other than your own opinion.

Take your stupid fucking "We'll look like savages" or "It totally doesn't matter that there's something in the way" bullshit and jump in front of traffic you useless half-man.

I bet you don't even understand how dust is useful when you're being shot at, either.

Fuck this I'm going to go make a pizza to throw on the roof. It'll make about as much sense as this soft-skull's worthless think-slush.
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>>4876454
Hmmm. That's an excellent point.

I still maintain that having a free hand is more useful though, especially since aliens seem to be rather... small, compared to us, and using one for cover would be ineffective due to that if nothing else.
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>>4876463
Well, not everyone. You've just been saying "You're wrong" without actually listening to the part of my post containing my point.

And well yes, at first it was a moral/reputation thing, I quickly found reasons that it was a bad idea in a combative sense to back up my reputive reasonings, and then dropped morality/reputation as a reason entirely since you weren't listening to that.

I'll stop arguing with you now, because you've clearly run out of argument and have started to resort to ad-hominem.
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>>4876454
It was a thicc joke my g. As the yutes say.
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>>4876478
.....motherfucker have you not been reading the same quest as the rest of us? We just casually dropped war crime gas, and executed a bunch of random gangers that bothered one of our friends. Using their carcasses to kill the rest by way of meat shield bash means jack shit to our reputation when all the witnesses are fucking dead, or living on our ship.
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>>4876524
Don't bother with him, anon.
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>>4876529
Pfft, that's good, saved.
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>>4876533
I've been waiting for ages to use it but I kept missing my chances. May it serve you well.
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>>4876543
Thank you, I have a tranny chink in a thread I'm in pretending it's degenerate ass fits in. This is perfect actually.
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>>4876524
Why do you think I dropped my points about reputation then?

I have long since moved past that and onto practicality, and I am of the opinion that it is genuinely going to be less effective to use an alien as a meat shield than to simply hold our weapon with two hands or have a free hand for grenades/melee/whatever the fuck.
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>>4876550
Right on brother.
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>>4876524
Probably a good idea to not leave a bunch of evidence behind then.

>>4876550
I cannot understand the meaning behind your post.
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>>4876570
>I cannot understand the meaning behind your post.
Anon is in a thread. There is a tranny chink in said thread. TC wrongly believes it belongs there.
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>>4876562
Yep, and have a little something in my folder as well.
>>4876570
Maybe you should learn to read.
>>4876554
Probably because we tested the best legal to illegal Phasers at the Merc test, and they would only singe the corpse we put in front of us. We are in 0.3 times gravity anyways, and as you constantly bitch about, the carcass we are likely using is light. It literally doesn't matter because we can chuck the damn thing if we need too, and likely get another kill with it.
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>>4876581
Are those two wearing planters as hats? Neato.
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>>4876596
Yep. I found a few more in my other folders of other stuff. Not many rocks, but I'm just skimming.
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>>4876580
In this thread?
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>>4876610
No Anon, in another thread. Don't worry your little head about it.
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>>4876613
Then why bring it into our awesome funtime quest thread?
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>>4876609
Lithoid lifeforms are sadly underutilized. We should try and find some rock lads to hang out with.
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>>4876619
Because I was thanking another Anon for a nice pic to insult TCs. If you have that much trouble following a conversation, I think you need to go to bed.
>>4876623
So long as we have Doggo Girls too, I will be happy. I just found my tg cute folder had some stuff I was missing, so let me check for some more.
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>>4876635
But I don't want to be left out :(
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>>4876635
I couldn't find anymore in that folder, but I did find this.
>>4876642
Stay away Anon, it is stupid so painful you will get nose bleeds.
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>>4876644
:(
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>>4876655
Sorry. Some things are better left UnChonged.
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>>4875980
>"I still can’t believe humans use that stuff on eachother undiluted"

Ho, you sweet summer child, if only you knew....

>>4876115
>Leave what's next up to me

Surprise us.
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>>4876554
Having much of your body covered and thus immune to laser pointers is a pretty good thing when you're walking into an ambush.
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>>4876777
Lucky gets. You should buy a lotto ticket.
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>>4876115
>Use a body as a shield
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>>4876777
You mean like the armour it was suggested we get/make way before we even thought of entering this building?
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>>4876850
I don't see where it would have made sense to have a crafting/shopping segment between getting our bounty sorted and going on this revenge rampage.
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>>4876865
Piss poor planning makes piss poor performance. Alternatively, we could have made a basic shield.
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>>4876581
>>4876777
Fine. At this point, you've provided good enough points that I accept defeat, and will no longer argue.
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Rolled 1 (1d2)

>>4876846
>>4876782
>>4876325
>>4876131
>>4876123

>>4876721
>>4876301
>>4876166
>>4876122
>>4876120

Looks like we've got a tie.
1 for body shield, 2 for leaving it to me
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>>4876939
Well, looks like I'm going to figure out whether or not anon's right
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>>4876939
I'll throw to 2
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>>4876942
What y'all seem to have forgotten is that phasers aren't lasers.
They're arcing electrical currents.
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>>4876944
Not sure i want to set the precedent that late votes still count here, but... i guess since you didn't vote earlier and i haven't started writing yet it's fine. If you were just changing your vote it'd be a no-go.
Alright, we'll count yours as the tiebreaker and go for 2.
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>>4876945
Does anyone have any Powerguns? Like from Hammer's Slammers
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>>4876949
Yeah, sorry it took so long. The 'tism drove me away. Maybe call that you'll roll for it a few minutes before you actually do next time and some anons will come out from the woodwork.
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>>4876952
Yeah i'll probably do that from now on, unless i'm short on time.
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>>4876953
You could also set a deadline when you call the vote.
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>>4876939
oh boy its updoot time
Lets see what is behind the mystery door
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>>4875980

For a moment, you consider picking up one of the corpses and using it as a shield while you charge forward.
But you've got a better, less gross idea.

You load up your AR-15 with a mag full of green tip. Steel-cored armor piercing ammunition.
Rather than busting down the door, you walk back into the adjacent room and start firing into the wall towards the door.

After about half a mag you hear an explosion go off, and the flimsy sheet metal walls of this shithole apartment are peppered with shrapnel, some of which actually penetrated.
Luckily you aren't hit by anything.

Looking out, the hall is filled with smoke but you can see that the whole door is missing completely. You hear several aliens coughing inside from the smoke.
Pulling the pin on your flashbang, you toss it into the room and finish the job that bomb started.

Between the tear gas, and the two explosions, you're expecting them to be thoroughly impaired, so it's quite a shock when you get body-tackled upon entering, knocking the gun out of your hand.
It's an alien that's shorter but stouter that you are, with some serious muscle! You struggle against him for a moment, pushing him off of you and landing a right hook against his temple...

Only to find him practically unphased, while your knuckles are bleeding instead!
This guy, he's got rocks for skin! Or at least it's something close enough!
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>>4876976

And he's heavy! Really damn heavy, even in the light gravity of the station! You find yourself struggling to get leverage against him as he uses he weight against you.

"You're a tough bastard, surviving a hit like that!"

"That's my line, pebble-brain!"

"Hah! Didn't even feel it."

Didn't even feel it, huh? We'll see about that, you little shit.

You give up entirely on out-muscling him, instead, you brace yourself and deliver a powerful uppercut directly to his jaw. This time you really put your back into it.
You make good contact and avoid breaking your fist, while several flakes of "skin" chip off his jaw as his body is temporarily lifted into the air, and you hear him groan.

As he's temporarily stunned, you manage to get away from him for a moment and pick up your pistol.
He's immediately back on you again, but you've got a .45 pressed against his abdomen. You fire once, twice, three times, and he shakes in place with a look of shock on his face.

Stumbling backwards, he spits up blood and has to brace himself against the wall, but doesn't go down.

"That... was cheap..."

"Sorry big guy, but we humans were born without claws or fangs. This is how we fight."

"Hah... tell me... tell me your name, human."

"You can call me Gunny. Doesn't matter though, because you're not gonna make it through the day."

"Heh. Hahaha! Gunny! I'll be seeing you again, you best believe it!"

"What, you think i'm gonna let you go?"

You're about to stop him from running, but he doesn't Instead he pulls out a small device and presses a button on the outside.
You can hardly believe your eyes as some sort of dark whirlwind forms around him, threatening to suck you in along with him!

Alarms start going off throughout the whole ward for some reason, loud enough that you can hear them from here.
And... you can't help but find yourself staring into the darkness that's enveloping this guy. There's something about it that just feels...

"Remember my name, Gunny! Today you fought "Stonebuilt" Gron and survived!"

The whirlwind surrounding him lights up like the sun, and he disappears in the flash.
The wind subsides, and through the blown-open door you see Cylia running up to you.

"David! David, what the hell happened?! There was an explosion, and then the warp alarms went off! Are you alright?!"

"Yeah, i'm fine. Just a few bruised ribs..."
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>>4876978
Really gonna need that power armor. It's not for stomping on the schoolchildren, it's for stomping on the ones like this guy.
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>>4876978
Well boys
ITS POWER ARMOUR TIME
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>>4876978
I'd say he's worthy of the name "Stonebuilt"
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>>4876989
Well we've got mind-reading 3D printers, why don't we strategize on what exactly the nature of our armor. The aliens might have something better, but based on what we've seen so far I think that a diamond aerogel with some graphene strips integrated into the overall suit to act as a faraday cage against phaser fire would be most effective against the widest range of things.

Just to explain a bit, diamonds have been observed to form in extremely high temperature but low pressure environments out in space. We've gotten ahold of a few of these things from asteroid impacts. The main difference between them and terrestrial diamonds is that the ones formed in low pressure environments contain mostly empty space, and also multiple different crystal grains inside of a single unit, but they still retain the hardness and strength of traditional diamond...just also adding a ridiculous amount of toughness as well. In effect what this means is that low-pressure diamonds do not have the susceptibility to blunt force that regular diamonds do, as the failure plains don't align throughout the material due to the multitude of crystal grains.

I think it'd make for a great armor. We can't manufacture this stuff on earth in the modern day due to the environments necessary to create it (and even if we could we'd have to fashion it into the final shape in the manufacturing process, because it'd be nearly impossible to machine on account of the properties I mentioned above), but with semi-magic 3D printers it ought to be doable.
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>>4877031
I said we couldn't manufacture this stuff on earth but apparently we're trying very hard and have come up with a few ways. Neat.

https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.jpcc.8b03809
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0008622318310911?via%3Dihub
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>>4876976
>You load up your AR-15 with a mag full of green tip. Steel-cored armor piercing ammunition.
M855/A1 isn't AP ammo REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>4876978
Oooh, did we just get a rival? Nice.
>>4876983
>>4876989
Power armor AND hammer
Or pickaxe. It'd be fitting on this guy.
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>>4877031
Apparently power armour is not much of a concept to the aliens alongside jet packs so I don’t think we will be facing much of a problem there. Other than the diamond armour to help the two main concerns is phaser and actual physical combat, a layer of metal should make melee attacks completely redundant so I suggest adding that on. In addition: built in maglev boots should also be added. When we do use the power armour though it would be safe to assume we will be having some type of mechanisms which will make our physical strength stronger thus I suggest creating some type of gun only our armour can use, perhaps the Gatling phaser could fill that role.
>>4877038
A war hammer would be bad ass so I support.

I hate typing on mobile
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>>4877034
For power armor, you're probably better off using a combination of spacer materials and earth materials.
In space, everything tends to be made out of cheap, easy and effective "generic" materials. Like all cloth tends to be made out of synthread, but that's fine because it's got good properties.
But humans make hyper-specialized materials like tungsten carbide, because they do everything by hand and work under extreme conditions. There are no magic tools in human industry.
Humans have also learned how to draw out the strengths of their materials to the absolute limit through the use of bullshit physics and abusing material properties for fun and profit.

So a combination of good generic spacer materials, specialized human materials/techniques and a little space-tech magic could produce a very strong suit of power armor. It's the best of all worlds.
You'll need to make a visit to earth if you want all the important information you need on human materials, though.

Imagine having a "Light Wall" tower shield twice the size of most aliens, and watching them explode against it as you smash it into them with the strength your suit's artificial muscles provide.

>>4877037
You gonna get "penetrated" if you keep it up, bucko.
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>>4877064
Yet another reason for us to go hunting for earth will all due haste, i want power armour.

Quick question: Does our dude know warhammer?
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>>4877080
He's a fan of warhammer.
And he finds all of this kind of funny as a result, now that he's had a few days to get over the shock.
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>>4877086
Glorious, It seems it is time for us to introduce this world to the glories of bolters and chainswords.

If i recall correctly, bolter are designed to demoralize the enemy, and given how these aliens are not used to firearms, the morale impact of a bolter should be insane.Same with chainsword
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>>4876978
We shall get our mallet.
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>>4877111
Did i? I gotta stop counting votes right after waking up.
Well, good job it went through anyways.
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>>4877064
Can we make a lightweight and less flashy set of (powered) armour for all those times we don't wanna stomp around in a literal ton of metal and high performance composites?
You know something real slick that doesn't scream "Fear me! For I a have become Death, the Destroyer of Worlds!".
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>>4877120
Argh. Fucked up the quote. I should really proofread before posting.
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>>4877120
There are potential options.
https://youtu.be/FmLFvKBOdVY?t=5
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>>4877064
In that case we will make a prototype set with the materials we have here to fight Rock man until we can get back to Earth.
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>>4877120
Like what?
>>4877136
What about the Section 8 games?
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>>4877120
So...a muscle suit? Sam approves.
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>>4877150
I like it! Or a crysis suit methinks
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>>4877131
>>4877143
>>4877150
I was thinking even lighter than that. Something like a reinforced bodyglove with a light artificial muscle layer build in.
Something you could either wear beneath regular cloth or as your main garment without looking like you are a terrifying killing machine.
Probably won't let us make koolaid man entrances and tank spaceship cannons but would enhance strength and toughness so we are safe from most if not all handheld weapons.
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>>4877120
I have just the thing in mind
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>>4877146
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>>4877136
The thing about Halo's power armor is that it's essentially just ceramic plates over a muscle suit, a jury-rigged power shield crammed in there, complete with a miniature fusion reactor on the back.
I think this combination of materials and technological systems would work the best for us, provided we can get back to Earth and start talking with some engineers.
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>>4877156
As much as I hate Halo past Reach, the undersuits they use kinda fit the bill.
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>>4877150
Fucking support, I want David to run at high speed, making impossible jumps and slicing aliens with a Sword

But seeing how he is a Warhammer fan, i guess he isn't interested in katanas and such

Also, a side note is that we should dilude more out gas granades, seeing how effective it was... We are in a thin line if the aliens hear about it
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>>4877166
Not into halo, so I have no idea, but it looks close enough to what I was thinking of.
>>4877136
Give some love to the OG power armour of the Mobile Infantry.
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>>4877168
Katanas are meant for cutting down unarmored peasant, like most small swords.
If we ever get a sword, I want something heavy enough that even Stonebuilt would feel it.
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>>4877173
We need a claymore or something then, its simple to make a war pick or a warhammer. Or we make the Kirk Hammer and go to town with both world.
>>4877166
Don't worry, the undersuits barely changed from Bungie Halo to 343.
>>4877168
We swing big hunks of iron out here in the west.
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>>4877173
Katanas are actually pretty good for most of the situations that we're going to run into, as I doubt most of our targets will be wearing slash resistant clothing/armor.

If we need to fight against someone like Stonebuilt, go full caveman and just have a club on hand.
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>>4877182
He seemed to be kinda made of rock. A warhammer like anons are suggesting would be better. Club would spread the impact out too much.
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>>4877180
>Don't worry, the undersuits barely changed from Bungie Halo to 343.
Are you sure about that? The ones that 343 started using are much slimmer and a lot shinier than the Bungie used, which looked more utilitarian and rugged.
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>>4877185
Maybe just straight up get a pickaxe?

Or, dare I say it... a poleaxe.
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>>4877120
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>>4877186
Speculations are nice, but shouldnt we see what we're capable of making first once we've acquired more knowledge in regards to alien and human technologies?
Regarding the katana, why not stick with unarmed power fisted combat? It's not as though David has training in SUPERIOR NIPPON STEEL.
FOLDED TEN THROUSAND TIMES.
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>>4877186
In their bullshit lore, its only slimmed down with Forerunner parts, but its just a tune up of the old model. Much as I loath 343.
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>>4877194
And broad swords are better than katanas anyways.
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>>4877188
Poleaxes are impractical on the cramped confines of space stations and ships we're likely to be fighting in.

I mean I could get down with a combat-styled pickaxe I guess. Something closer to an ice climber's pick than a mining pick.
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>>4877203
Ice picks are also proven to work very well on commies. So that will come in handy once we get back to earth.
>>4877194
>It's not as though David has training in SUPERIOR NIPPON STEEL.
Bayonett it is then.
>Speculations are nice, but shouldnt we see what we're capable of making first once we've acquired more knowledge in regards to alien and human technologies?
QM will probably respond to some of our speculation and tell us all about what we can actually do.
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>>4877194
Or, hear me out.

A mace/club, or even a metal stick. Little training required, further capitalizes on our strength.

>>4877202
They're better for stabbing and usually more durable. At a certain point, no sword design is outright better or worse than others, just better or worse at certain things. Katanas, for example, are made specifically to cut good, and boy do they cut good.

>>4877203
That's why I put in a "dare I say it". Honestly given how fragile these aliens are just about any weapon will do, but I'd say a blunt weapon does best in most cases.

Also a warpick looks basically just like a warhammer but the spike on the back end is comically oversized.
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>>4877203
Icepick, mafia style... I like!
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>>4877202
Again would need proper sword training for that. Besides, who needs a sword when you can punch things?

>>4877210
Bayonetts and some knife training sounds more likely. We just need Cochrane to confirm or deny this.

>>4877212
Ball your hand into a fist. Hammer fist someone. Theres your mace/club. Jokes aside we can look into buying the highest end alien police baton equivalent. Something that can collapse into itself for convenience, but durable enough to not break.

Side note we should ask our new officer friend about this "Stonebuilt" Gron fellow and all info he can pull off of him.
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>>4877212
They cut good because their iron is shit and the one design they have is from having so little iron to boot. Western Swords BTFO Katans any day, in durability, edge retention, and practical use. Katanas are just long razors attached to bastard sword sized hilt. I'd take this into space unaugmented with a power field over a katana. Though this is more of a academic point, as baring the Stone Man, everything out here is very weak and easily cut.
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>>4877225
>Again would need proper sword training for that.
No more than the CQC training and not stabbing yourself with the pointy bit.
>Bayonetts and some knife training sounds more likely. We just need Cochrane to confirm or deny this.
>Implying a Marine wouldn't have these skills
I SAID GET THE FUCK OUT THE OFFICE SUPPLIES YOU CRAYON EATING MOUTH BREATHERS!
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>>4877226
QM did confirm putting a shield around a small shield would make it more protective. Makes we wonder what would happen if you did the same for a sword or knife. Would the weapon be kind of more durable and less liable to break, or would it cut better? Probably the former.
We could stick with the KABAR we have. We haven't used it yet.
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>>4877231
He did confirm we can make an energy shield yes. Specifically the ones Jackals use, and it would be more protective.
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Reminder that if we can figure out WH40K Power Weapons/Metal Gear High Frequency or we roll both into one package blades it really will not matter what kind of sword we could use as it would go into bullshit tier in cutting power

>>4877226
I'm gonna regret asking this but *why* are you taking traditional iron sand metal into account in the first place when a katana can be constructed out of modern alloys OR bullshit space alloys?? Raving about the type of metal a bladed weapon USED to be made out of in ancient times is completely irrelevant
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>>4877231
And you basically described Power Weapons, and we are definitely going for them. Because if the power field goes out, we still have good steel.
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>>4877230
>No more than the CQC training and not stabbing yourself with the pointy bit.
You and I dont know squat about training with a sword beyond "swish swish stab," and the issue with finding an alien sword instructor. Which is kind of unlikely. Not because there arent any, but because any alien instructor we can find will either have A) alien concepts of fighting. B) is a fuxking coward like more other aliens and prefer to use melee combat for only fleeing. C) fuck you glorious human teachers are just better.

>I SAID GET THE FUCK OUT THE OFFICE SUPPLIES YOU CRAYON EATING MOUTH BREATHERS!
NFL good kek outta that. So a quick google search tells me that marines get bayonet and knife training included in their martial arts training.
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>>4877234
>I'm gonna regret asking this but *why* are you taking traditional iron sand metal into account in the first place when a katana can be constructed out of modern alloys OR bullshit space alloys?? Raving about the type of metal a bladed weapon USED to be made out of in ancient times is completely irrelevant
>Asking a /k/night about autism rant based bladed weaponry.
Why are you asking dumb questions? The material out here is shit anyways for a good blade, and the design of a Katana is a soft core and hard edge, but that edge is fundamentally easily chipped. A proper blade won't have that problem nearly as bad as a katana.
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>>4877237
>>4877233
He did mention that, didnt he. Makes me wonder if we can make "shield body armor." Like you get little shitty weak shields, but you minimize their coverage to protect a specific body part to make them stronger and compensate for how weak they are. Head, shins, forearms, torso, knees, etc. Pic is from Mass Effect.

>>4877226
>>4877243
How about we stick to what we know already? We could modify the KABAR by attaching a bayonet mount thing to it and mod it with space tech or something else.
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>>4877250
I agree. I just brought up the katana because it's good at cutting and we really don't need to stab things up here if we have a sword.

But yeah, a bayonet on the end of a rifle is probably the best, even if I still say we should keep some form of blunt weapon at our side.
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>>4877250
>He did mention that, didnt he. Makes me wonder if we can make "shield body armor." Like you get little shitty weak shields, but you minimize their coverage to protect a specific body part to make them stronger and compensate for how weak they are. Head, shins, forearms, torso, knees, etc. Pic is from Mass Effect.
No reason why we couldn't, but it would probably count as military grade.
>How about we stick to what we know already? We could modify the KABAR by attaching a bayonet mount thing to it and mod it with space tech or something else.
Fine. But we will become Deus Vult soon.
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>>4877267
David's cock counts as a blunt holdout two handed weapon. Anon's roll of 20 said so.
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>>4877267
FOOKIN WEEBS, KATANAS SUCK DICK!
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>>4877269
Military grade is a good or bad thing for us? We wont get in trouble for it, will we?
Deus Vult? First we gotta determine how Christian or Catholic David is, if at all. For the emmerson.

Another pic as proof.
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>>4877271
Eh. Every sword has its upsides and downsides, and most of the katana's downsides come from shitty material. I'd take a longsword any day in armored combat (because it has better stabbing capabilities), but I'd prefer a katana for unarmored/lightly armored combat(because it's good at cutting and that's about it and that's what would be needed), which is most combat we'll be encountering.

Still, the humble bayonet (+backup club/mace/nightstick) trumps either one for practicality in our situation.
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>>4877281
Military grade is normally pretty shit irl. It tends to be durable, but the quality is mediocre as it is made by the lowest bidder
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>>4877285
Longswords are better at cutting too, damn weebs with their meme lying!
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>>4877281
Everything military grade has a superior civilian equivalent, you will just pay out of your ass for it.

>>4877285
Bayonet is best one imo aswell. Not a katana fan, the steel quality is mediocre at best, Europe had pattern welding in 900 and before, then discovered quality metal working/ore. Now if we want a real cutter, the Kilij was good enough for Vlad the impaler, so i reckon it is good enough for our dude. Plus, that one tv show did an episode on it and it could cut through a pig.
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>>4877285
TBF we still have that fuck stick we ripped right off the wall. We should probably put that back eventually.

>>4877287
Durability is kind of what you want out of a shield and we'll be making our own gear on the fly so. Pro's and cons.
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>>4877298
Glory to you sir.
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>>4877296
A curve in a sword usually makes it better at cutting. That's why the longsword fell out of fashion as armor did, being replaced by either lighter blades that couldn't take as much abuse meant for dueling like the rapier, or the sabre, meant for cutting and actual fighting.
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>>4877300
Just saying. Go for cheap, steal/loot small shitty shields, mod them into "segmented shield armor".
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>>4877304
I just hate the damn Katana, were proud Americans damnit, a Power Calvary Sabre is better!
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>>4877309
Fair enough. If we're going for a sword, the sabre it is then.
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>>4877313
He is the captain of the ship, after all.
Fitting he'd use a saber of some sort.

>>4877301
Kyla already fixed that for you.

>>4877281
"Military Grade" is a big fucking joke. If it's military grade, you can bet it's a piece of shit.

>>4877281
David isn't religious himself, but he's a big believer in christian values.
He thinks that people need rules to keep themselves from just turning into animals, and that's what religion is.
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>>4877300
Speaking of Vlad, we should totally steal his stick if the opportunity arises.
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>>4877330
Where would we even get the spikes, and the spots to mount the bodies? that just makes us seem like a serial killer.
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>>4877327
Looks like saber it is then. It have a utilitarian and symbolic purpose. We can put the silly "muh sword vs muh katana" debate on hold. I dont know much about the weapon beyond the fact they're good for slashing.
Would the mini body part shield idea work?

>>4877330
Back on earth? Vlad's stick should stay in a museum.
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>>4877341
print them and bolt them to the floor
or wait until we are on an actual planet
>>4877347
nah, out here. humanity has seen it already and worse.
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>>4877354
Seems gross and unappealing to mount corpses on the exterior of the ship. Also war crimes.

What?
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>>4877347
You could do mass effect style hardlight armor, but only on something like halo marine armor or anything bulkier, as you'd need multiple shield emitters strapped to you, and a power source for them.
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>>4877358
Who said anything about a ship? I clearly spoke of floors. Ships do not have floors. They have decks.
I meant inside the station.
And being gross and unappealing is the point.
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>>4877360
What about something like >>4877156
Can we build/ buy something like this?
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>>4877360
Dope.

>>4877362
It's a bad point. It'll give us a bad rep, not to mention probably very illegal. Who would want to associate with someone of shishkabobs the corpses of people he's killed?
Oh, yeah, beyond the unsanitary spearing and corpse mutilating, probably illegal to weld those to the station floor without permission. And our crew mates probably wont approve.
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It’s all great to speculate on how our power armour is going to turn out and shit but don’t we have to escape the scene of the crime first?
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>>4877362
We already scare our cute catgirl faggot, save the war crimes for someone that earns it.
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>>4877281
>Military grade is a good or bad thing for us?
Say what you want about the quality, military grade sure is cheap. Oh boy is it cheap. Cheap as they can convince everyone it can be.

And then they spend the rest on a $600,000 missile
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>>4877374
Didn't say we have to do it now.
>>4877330
>if the opportunity arises.
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>>4877375
I am willing to bet the material cost of a missile isn't even $100k, with the rest of the markup going to executive salaries and bribes. Then again, as i own some lockheed martin stonks, i guess some( a few cents) also ends up in my pockets
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>>4877364
Not quite a skintight suit, but something like the crysis suit (minus invasive bodily integration) would be possible. It would only bulk you up a little, and improve your natural abilities moderately.
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>>4877327
Military grade is weird. The clothing is pretty durable and cheap, very comfortable to boot. But anything else is pretty shit.... Now the special operations guys have nice toys.
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>>4877386
Sweet, though I would prefer to keep it a little less bulky, even at the cost of a little performance. No need to stand out more than necessary.
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>>4877386
Things worth researching:
>ship mounted auto cannons
>crisis suit
>power armor
>halo jackal shields
>general ship improvements (showers, beds, kitchen)
>that exotic alien pussy
>memetic phaser chaingun
>formal and functional saber
Anything else we should add to the list
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>>4877405
Bulk and standing out doesnt really matter since everyone stands out doe to being aliens. Just slip some clothes over the suit and call it a day.
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>>4877407
Hmmm, that should be about it so far....oh, ship mascot.
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>>4877410
>Just slip some clothes over the suit and call it a day.
This right here. I'd say our cowboy duster would cover up something like >>4877386 pretty nicely
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>>4877407
Just one thing.
https://blame.fandom.com/wiki/Gravitational_Beam_Emitter
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>>4877407
Can I add
>Spinal mounted Russian nuke cannon
to the list?
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>>4877407
You forgot to add:
>Antimatter cannon
>Radiation Cannon
>Radar
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>>4877418
A diamond dog would fit our mercenary group and ship name.

>>4877425
No reason why we cant go for it if it exists. Problem is David knowing the concept, and if it can be purchased by civilians.
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>>4877410
We already are the biggest guy this side of GEO. No need to make it any worse.
>>4877407
radar
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>>4877304
Rapiers aren't light, they had heavy hilts for greater point control
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>>4877428
No. Cool, but no, and very impractical. And painful. And expesinve. And fuck me you dont want to fuck with you spine or risk being paralyzed from the waist down.

>>4877430
Anti matter cannon, did we ever come to a consensus on that? I get the feeling the QM has been giving us some soft no's for its viability. A bomb perhaps, but no cannon. Or maybe yes cannon, but not infantry tier weapons.
Radiation cannon is also war crimes, which would put a bounty on our heads, and make our friends not like us.
Radar? For what purpose?

>>4877437
Like, for replacement limbs, or literal body doubles? Theres some ethical hurdles with that if we want an army of crayon munching David's.

>>4877438
That rock guy showed otherwise, his gains were superior. I see no down sides to having a muscle bulking suit beyond people being jealous.
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>>4877449
QM said it is possible for the antimatter but the tiny nugget would have to be used quickly and have a specialized container.
We won’t use the radiation guns, just buy a combat drone to use it.
Also radar to see through other stealth ships.
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>>4877448
The blade is lighter is what I meant to imply.

>>4877449
I was talking about a Ship's spine, anon.
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>>4877449
Also we gotta get cloning to start the clone wars since the shadow space council uses drones primarily. Also fuck ethics
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>>4877457
Assuming here that all ships have their own form of radar, so improved radar? Hope it's in the ship budget.

>>4877462
My bad. A nuke launcher sounds pretty cool. Might be bad for us if it gets indirectly targeted but thems the breaks.
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>>4877469
No no no, anon, you misunderstand yet again. It is not a cannon that fires nukes, no.

It is a cannon powered by one.

The Russians wanted a cannon that could hit things in orbit, for some reason I don't remember. And the idea that they came up with is as the picture shows.

>Concrete barrel
>hydrogen bomb
>water
>copper plug for the projectile

The hydrogen bomb going off forces the water to expand at an absurd rate, launching the copper plug at absurd speeds, while the barrel contains the explosion.

You can't aim it of course, because it's built into the ground. If it was built into a ship with better materials, however...
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>>4877478
There are way more efficient (though admittedly less awesome) ways to accelerate projectiles.
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>>4877478
That sounds very unstable and inefficient? Do you have a better nuke weapon idea than what the Russians came up with? We're more liable to destroy our ship with that method.
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>>4877490
>>4877507
I don't remember the stats, but I think the calculations stated it would genuinely hit a notable fraction of a percent of C with this method.

It's also just really, really cool.
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>>4877469
I believe QM said alien ships don’t use radar but instead something else but those scanners don’t detect stealth ships while human radar does.
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>>4877386
Why did I not think of the Stealth Suit sooner. This shit rocks.
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>>4877513
It's also really fucking bad for the ship. A nuke power projectile would either rip the mount off the ship, or destroy the ship.
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>>4877520
It would off of *this* ship. A future, larger ship, on the other hand, might just work.
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>>4877528
>alien's faces when they adopt this tech but it still doesn't work against humans due to radar-dispersing geometry
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>>4877538
>Our faces when they think the radar never actually worked in the first place and they abandon it again
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>>4876945
Oh don't worry, I knew that already. I just tend to abandon debating once it becomes clear I'm wasting my breath or I'm not sufficiently bored.
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>>4877528
Why do you think the Chinese managed to find and nuke the ship? I believe its because they are so advanced that shit like radar is basically sticks and stones to them so they don't really count it.
>>4877538
imagine a human fleet of antimatter cannon mounted ships razing the galaxy while invisible.
One day
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We've still gotta make a randall suit. If not for ourselves, then give the catgirl a sniper rifle to have an invisible sniper? It fits in with her name.

Probably could do with some knuckle dusters for if we truly insist on being able to punch rocks in half but something similar to the Shocker where we basically make the enemy's body vibrate their brain across their skull until unconsciousness or death is probably more practical.
>>4877478
Or we do that old steam as a heat sink trick to fire the gun and basically make stealth mode an offensive mode?
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>>4877538
>Nooo you can't be undetectable to this primitive super-location method!

>haha funny shapes go </|\>
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>>4877528
I don't think radar is super practical over spacefaring distances, as the power requirements to get useful signals increase by an exponent of 4 over distance.
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>>4877564
A good thought, but the excess heat from the ship wouldn't heat up the water fast enough to properly propel the copper disc.
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>>4877564
Or we do that old steam as a heat sink trick to fire the gun and basically make stealth mode an offensive mode?
Nah, it wouldn't work. The Russian cannon relies on an overwhelming and near instantaneous amount of thermal energy creating a tremendous amount of supercritical steam out of the surrounding water. Our heat sink is just going to be a heat sink.
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>>4877572
You could still use steam build up to make a pressure gun.
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>>4877575
Okay, but to the tune of being effective space weaponry I think not.
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>>4877723
At this point I have to ask why you're detonating the nuke on our ship instead of delivering it to the people we want to vaporize?
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>>4877723
Well you wouldn't use it to shoot at something far away. You'd use it to deploy space mines. Clearly.
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anons may i propose a weapon for our later ship designs
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>>4877773
lol look at this high tech fag not using nothing but ludd's blessed ordinance
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>>4877776
gonna cry to ludd about that mean High tech ship that just used quad tachyons to saw your boat in half?
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>>4877575
also wait a fucking minute how do i have his id?
holy fuck my dynapic ip is that dumb
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im just retarded and sleep deprived sorry anon
i need to take a nap because i see wrong
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but before i go, tachyon lances with the new hard flux damage mod is fun as hell
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>>4877773
>>4877792
>>4877802
What are your thoughts on the Hephaestus Assault Guns?
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>>4877842
>>4877802
Gentlemen of culture. I am a sucker for the tachyon lance but the Hephaesus is sexy as all hell.
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>>4876978
FINALLY AN ACTUAL ENEMY!!! YAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>4877538
>"How does this even work?"
"This instructional video will explain"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZe5J8SVCYQ
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>>4877386
HERE IS TO YOU NICOLA AND BART
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>>4877773
I AM FEELING IT
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>>4877773
I would want tractor beams, boarding torpedoes and grappling arms or perhaps articulated harpoon chains.

Get some hard ass mofos who can keep up with us and we shall fuck up crews and take ships almost intact, just needing some repairs... sell-able in the slightly used market if you patch them up a bit.
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Guys, I have transcended into godhood. BEHOLD!
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Ah here it is, the autism break.
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>>4877746
1. it's cool
2.it's undodgeable at the speed it moves
3. it'll really hurt
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Damn shame there isn't a Macguffin power source that we can use like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV0x4XHdbyc
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>>4877746
>>4878041
You're getting what I referenced (using our planned water heat sinks to generate steam to shoot a projectile) and the nuke-powered cannon mixed up.
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>>4878037
The is no Autisim Break, only us
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>>4878075
POWER TOOLS, THE TRUE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION!
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>>4878099
To be fair if it's designed to grind through hardened steel then a person doesn't stand much of a chance.
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Does this mean that Randall was a trap in order to get us into that building? Shall we break the news to him that he was an expendable pawn that they planned on letting die?
Check up on if Korg has a bounty out for him? Are all alien species on the station registered? Maybe we need a way to beat all of them instead of winging it?
I suspect we might need to go to our big corporate contact for intelligence on the gang's organization. Since they roughly own the station they might consider the police bribes and (expecting to not be) paying us to be a good cheap investment.
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>>4878196
I thought Randall died
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>>4878202
He's alive, in stasis on your ship.
He just wishes he wasn't.
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>>4878116
>Rip Saw FTW.
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>>4878212
Wait, did Cylia hear the Stone Man before we fought him?
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>>4878236
No. She doesn't have magic hearing.
You both heard all the people that were clamoring upstairs before you set off the tear gas.
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>>4878239
Damn, it would have been cool to show off to her kicking The Things ass.
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>>4878245
Yeah we won that, his ass ran from us.
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>>4878245
One thing David is printing ASAP is a pair of hard-knuckled gloves.
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>>4878251
We need our Powerfists or some solid knuckle dusters for our rematch.
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>>4878265
Fuck yeah. But after that...what about one of these?
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>>4878272
Good option for a gundam, or possibly some extremely heavy power armor.
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>>4878273
So in the mean time we need a mace, what about this beast?
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>>4878292
A mace would be a very good option for a hardlight weapon.
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>>4878294
Screw Hardlight, lets make it solid metal, and then slap a Power Field to the bitch, just to reenact the scene of the first movie.
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>>4878196
I don't think he was a trap, I think he was a serious assassination attempt. I think they were also prepared and monitoring for his failure to execute the task properly, so if they didn't have Kron around on retainer or something they probably hired him quickly once it became evident we were alive and pissed.
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>>4878294
You'd think that hard light would be pretty, well, light. The exact opposite of what you want for a bludgeon.
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>>4878314
It's still a mace, even without the shield projector.
But the great thing about it is that you could design it to take different shapes. A blunt ball mace, a spiked mace, even a spear or an axe.
The thing itself is just a handle that can be used as an actual mace if needed, while containing the important electronic parts.
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>>4878320
Ah I interpreted it as the entire head being hardlight and not just a sheathe around an actual physical structure.

derp
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>>4878314
>He doesn't have a stick with a miniature reinforced gravitational field projector on the end of it that intensifies gravity up to 2 inches away from the projector
your gravhammer is weak
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>>4878343
But that's a gravhammer. Not a hardlight mace. Two different topics. Also not to be confused with a gravyhammer which only gets used on Thanksgiving.
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>>4878343
>>4878353
Porque no los dos?
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>>4876978

"Come on, we gotta get out of here, fast!"

"Hold on, i ain't done yet. Go on and step out, it won't be long."

"David... just... fine. Hurry."

Shaking off... whatever all that was, you finish clearing the room. There are several more people here in various states of suffering, which you promptly put them out of.
All save for one. Undoubtedly, this is the guy you were looking for. A biped like you, but with blue skin. Skinny. Scrawny. Missing one eye. Doesn't look so tough, and doesn't act it either.
You bind his hands and legs with zipties and grab him by the collar.

"Cylia! Come on, let's go!"

Clearly trying to ignore the bodies in the room, she follows you as you jump out of the second floor window and land with a thud on the metal plate flooring below.
That low gravity really comes in handy.

You both take off at full speed, weaving through back alleys and the crowds.

"Did you get a look at that big guy back there?"

"No! What big guy?"

"Huge bastard! Almost as tall as me, but thicker! Grey skin, hard as a damned rock!"

"Sounds like a Chondrite. Don't see many of them, they tend to stick to their own systems."

"Can you tell me anything about them?"

"They eat rocks and weigh so much that they can't walk in high gravity. They're mean and tough as hell. I don't know much more than that."

"So what the hell was a guy like that doing down here?"

"Considering where he was, he was probably hired muscle, dumbass! I can't believe you survived that!"

"He wasn't that tough! I don't know if i could take him bare-knuckled though. Punching him hurts like a bitch!"

"No shit!"

Still running, you have to make a bit of an effort to wall run over top a barbed wire fence with this guy over your shoulder. He's starting to struggle now that he can breathe again.

"...So what was that all about back there?"

"What?"

"Was that the first time you watched someone die?"

"I don't want to talk about it."

"I figured you had a little experience in this field, but i guess not, huh?"

"No, i don't! I wasn't here for long before i got screwed over, okay?! It's barely been four months since i left my homeworld!"

"That's fine! I'm not complaining. It's just important to know that sort of thing."

"Then i should tell you, i don't like killing. I do things quietly, and i try not to injure my targets severely."

"Noted! Rogues have their place in the industry too, so don't worry about it."

It feels like an especially long run back to the elevator. You see cops converging on the scene of your crime from time to time, even though they don't normally even come down here.
But the elevator is open as usual, and you make it back up to your ship without much trouble.

When you get back to the ship you find Kyla sitting at a table, poking at a little blue box with what looks like a dental pick.
She turns her head when you dump your catch onto the mess room floor, but quickly ignores him and his squirming.

"Brought home another new friend, huh?"
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>>4878395
>its fresh meat actually
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>>4878395
nah someone with answers to my questions
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how do you feel about pic related?
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>>4878420
I kinda want a Rig and powertools.
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>>4878420
I want something that says Human y'know?
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Something that screams HUMAN y'know...
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It's gotta be personal armor.
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pretty good don't you think
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>>4878424
Human'd you say?
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>>4878432
definitely
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>>4878273
On the topic of "melee" weapons, what about something like pic related?
Obviously it would be chambered in something like .410 since all the recoil goes directly into the joins of the arm. Still, nothing some good old fashioned exercise (or a musclesuit) couldn't mitigate.
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>>4878528
No melee weapon could ever surpass the sheer effectiveness of a sock ‘em bopper when wielded by your autistic cousin that doesn’t know how to hold back
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>>4878538
Sock 'em Bopper? I think you mean Reactive Matter Displacement module.
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>>4878538
>>4878541
Peasants, you know not the power of genuine Hulk Hands.
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>>4878543
The fucking plastic ones? Those things are just handheld war crimes.
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>>4878544
You know what I speak of? The destroyed glass coffee tables fill many junkyards.
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>>4878547
Real talk, I actually shattered a glass coffee table by jumping on it as a kid.
Miraculously, I suffered not a single scratch. Did start crying my ass off though, because I thought I was gonna catch a whooping.
Needless to say, we didn't have any glass topped furniture in the house after that.
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>>4878548
>Real talk, I actually shattered a glass coffee table by jumping on it as a kid.
Fucking lucky that, my cat accidentally broke one we had when I was young.
>Miraculously, I suffered not a single scratch. Did start crying my ass off though, because I thought I was gonna catch a whooping.
Natural assumption
>Needless to say, we didn't have any glass topped furniture in the house after that.
For the life of me when I think back to the early 2000s, I can not understand why Boomers and Zoomers thought it was a good fucking idea to have GLASS FURNITURE in the same house as kids. Absolutely baffling.
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>>4878550
These are the same people that treated carpet like it was the only sane flooring option.
Shit's just a magnet for stains and ants.
I'm glad my folks decided to rip up all the carpet in their house a few years back, makes a world of difference.
Personally speaking though, if I had my choice of flooring, I'd go with concrete. Hell, I'd just live in a warehouse if I could.
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>>4878553
>These are the same people that treated carpet like it was the only sane flooring option.
Yeah, the same idiots that had that, and kids, and pets. Plane hardwood flooring for life, or linoleum.
>Shit's just a magnet for stains and ants.
And mold.
>I'm glad my folks decided to rip up all the carpet in their house a few years back, makes a world of difference.
I can imagine, unless you clean it professionally, either by hiring or doing it yourself, it gets nasty.
>Personally speaking though, if I had my choice of flooring, I'd go with concrete. Hell, I'd just live in a warehouse if I could.
Can confirm, concrete is great flooring if you set it properly, just toss a rug down in winter and your fine.
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>>4878558
Ehhhhhhhh, I feel like throwing down a rug just defeats the point of getting rid of your carpet in the first place.
I had a few under my desk to keep my feet from freezing and they have pretty much all the problems of carpet, plus they get fucked up by chairs and whatnot.
Nowadays I just wear socks.
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>>4878566
>Ehhhhhhhh, I feel like throwing down a rug just defeats the point of getting rid of your carpet in the first place.
No no no no, its much better, you can take a rug up and let it air outside, and can be stored when not in use.
>I had a few under my desk to keep my feet from freezing and they have pretty much all the problems of carpet, plus they get fucked up by chairs and whatnot.
Just gotta use a different kind of rug, like those office rugs.
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>>4878395
Are we gonna look for bounties for both of these guys?
Perhaps we should introduce our cat friend to the concept of paintballs, and contact based numbing chemicals for nonlethal takedowns if she doesnt want to kill people.
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>>4878604
>topical anesthesia as a paralytic
I always knew doctors were hitmen in disguise.
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>>4878629
Never turn your back, even to cough.
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>>4878635
If you constantly spin they can never remain behind you.
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>>4878604
Is there a reason we can't fill space paintballs with dilute chloroform? I don't know how the stuff works or how long it sticks around but maybe that would be an effective way for Cylia to take out anyone who's not using a gas mask
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>>4878868
I think prepping for actual threats might be higher on the priority list.
We could check out the Bounty office to get some advice from our sempai on ways to deal with weak aliens
Maybe eventually adapt that warp device to a prison ship/container we make and fire them at targets? I feel like that might be too expensive normally, but might work for rescue missions or particularly high bounties?
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>>4878868
You've been watching too many movies, anon.
You ain't gonna knock anyone out with chloroform-filled paintballs.
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>>4878894
People really don't get how good a job anesthesiologists have to do in order to merely knock you out instead of killing you and even then, sometimes you actually just blacked out the events from memory instead of being unconscious.
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For live bounty captures, maybe we could research a fast-expanding, fast-hardening foam? Think of it as roided out polyurethane foam and you'll get what I mean.

Then again, maybe something made of hardlight might work better.
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>>4878900
I'm very aware, personally.
I'm very resistant to just about every drug it seems, and the anesthesiologist didn't knock me out properly when i went in for surgery.
So i woke up before it even began, and although i tried telling the doctors they just ignored me even though i was awake and talking to them. I guess that sort of thing happens a lot.

So i'm fully awake (albeit high as balls) while they shove a camera through the veins in my wrist up and into my heart.
That hurts a lot, if you didn't know.
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>>4878902
I thought about the pricing on a teleport gun a little more and realized it might not be as expensive as i thought when it comes to fuel costs due to the scale. Light years of travel is an infinitesimally shorter distance than a somewhat nearby shipping container or massive cryo unit. I suppose this means the actual reason they're expensive is the cost of creation and/or patent laws.
>>4878904
Meant more like the other anons that keep on assuming they can make perfectly accurate amounts of tranquilizers. Sorry that happened to you. It really does happen a disturbing amount from what I've heard. That's also why people that go through surgery can randomly react as if they went through trauma afterwards. They can't actually remember what happened but the brain decided to do the trauma processing anyway.
I'm no medical expert though. I just read too much.
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>>4878911
Personal "teleporters" do technically exist, as you've seen with Gron's escape.
But nobody uses them, for several very good reasons.

>>4878902
That would be a good option.
They might experience minor burns, but that's an acceptable price for them to pay.
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>>4878918
do teleporters get blocked by shields or can we just teleport bombs or gas grenades onto other ships?
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>>4878924
Normal shields wouldn't block a teleporter device, although you could actually tune a slipspace drive to act as an anti-teleporter shield.
But just using a teleporter is dangerous, even if you don't go through it yourself.

Especially if you do it more than once.
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>>4878938
>you could actually tune a slipspace drive to act as an anti-teleporter shield
Possible interdiction fields?
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>>4878949
That is also a possibility.
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>>4878951
Obviously such thoughts are far too science-y for our hero.
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"I dunno, he might end up as dinner if he doesn't cooperate. Meat is hard to find on this station, right Cylia?"

"Er, yeah. I'm reeeaaal hungry, too."

The guy starts panicking hard.

"Oh gods, you're all fucking crazy! You killed everyone, and now you're gonna eat me! Holy shit, holy shit, holy shit, holy shit!"

You smack him upside the head, trying to calm him down and shut him up. It doesn't work.

"AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAAAAAAAGAHDELPMEEEEEE"

"Dave, that's getting really annoying! I'm trying to work on something delicate here!"

"Sorry, Kyla."

Dragging the squalling man by the collar into the medical room, you seal the door behind you for soundproofing and press his face against the pod full of dead greys.

"You see that, friend? This is what happens when you try to fuck with me."

Then you move to the next pod over.

"And i think you should recognize who this is."

"Holy shit! Holy shit!"

"If you don't want to be carved up like him, you're gonna tell me everything i want to know. Do you understand?"

"I'll do fucking anything, just don't kill me! Holy shit, please!"

This guy is hyperventilating super fucking hard. If he doesn't calm down he's probably going to have a heart attack.
You set him down very gently in a chair, then squat down so you're at eye level with him.

"First of all, who are you?"

"KEL! My name is Kel!"

You stand back up and lean against the wall. He clearly isn't about to try anything.

"I already know that, dumbass. I'm not asking for your name, i want to know who you are. No way someone like you is running Dark Star. You don't have the balls for it."

"R-R-Right! Yes, i'm not really the leader! It was Gron! I was just supposed to talk with the clients!"

"And what can you tell me about Gron? Where did he come from? What was he trying to do?"

"G-Gron is... he's a bad guy, alright? I didn't want to do it at first, but the money was good, and..."

"Hey, i don't give a shit about your bad choices, kid. I want to know about Gron. Focus."

"Right! Uhhh... He didn't tell me much. I know he came from outside of federation space. That's mostly where Dark Star operates."

"And what was he doing?"

"He was... look, don't tell anyone i said this, alright? He was trying to muscle in on Sadia Corporation's redsang smuggling operation. He wanted to take over the whole operation."

"I keep hearing about that. What is redsang?"

"It's a drug. Really addictive, but it alters your perception of time and keeps you awake. Students use it to study sometimes, and then they get hooked on it."

"Do you know how they're smuggling it?"

"Yeah! Every couple of months they buy off the inspectors and just ship the packages along with normal cargo, then it goes out to all the local systems for distribution."

"...So that's what Laggard was after."

"Huh?"

"I have more questions. Which one of you put the hit out on me?"

"..."

"It was you, wasn't it?"

"...Please don't kill me."
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>>4878998

Now would be a good time to post any extra questions you guys might want to ask him.
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>>4878998
YA WANNA BE MADE WIT' SALT?

Why the hit when ya might've hired me? And where is the cash kept?
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>>4878998
>Do you know where Gron might have went?
>How much of the Dark Star gang is left on this station after my little rampage?
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>>4878998
>>4879004
>And where is the cash kept?
This one is important.
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>>4879008
These are both excellent.

>>4879028
Let's expand this and ask for where all their valuable shit is at. Clean'em out on this station.
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Man, if this guy wasn't so obviously out of his depth I'd think about having him as an info contact on the station.
Still... I say we ask if he has any other contacts - maybe we'll get lucky and he knows someone useful to us.
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>>4878998
>Do you know where Gron might have went?
>How much of the Dark Star gang is left on this station after my little rampage?
>Would you prefer that: A) you pay me to not put you in jail, or B) I have to break your knees at put you in jail? I'm gonna check up on your bounty and if you cant match the price on your head, then guess where you're going friend?
>Why the hit when ya might've hired me? And where is the cash kept?
>ask if he has any other contacts - maybe we'll get lucky and he knows someone useful to us.
>boop his nose and squish his cheeks. Either no one will believe him, or he'll be even more terrified of us.
>Does he know where Geon went?
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>>4878998
I think Kel has to be handed over to the sadia boys instead of whatever bounty it might have. Sadia will owe us a favour after destroying this dark star franchise PLUS giving them the right hand (or spokeperson?) of the actual manager of the thing.

I am yet to understand why this people sent a hitman after us. Taking down Laggar wasn't throwing a wrench into their problems. My only idea is that they wanted to get rid of the strong newcomer that showed up out of nowhere
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>>4879087
He did it because you attacked two of his boys.
Again, laggard was completely unrelated to any of this.
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>>4879089
AAAH, back in da day when Jet hired us to hurt them bad
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>>4878998
>Can we print a pretty pink dress, have him wear it, and start singing and dancing "I'm a little tea pot" just for the mental damage? I'm not asking that we do that, only if we could do that.
>In theory, if I let you go, no strings attached, what will you do?
>What can you offer us to not kill you or send you to jail?
>Do you know any weapons dealers? Do you know anyone with printers that wont be missed? (we steal the printer)
>Where are your hideouts, and do you have any weapons caches?
>Do you know of any other gangs that operate in this station?

>>4879099
I wonder how Jet feels about us now?
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>>4879087
The thing about favors is that people don't give them to you when you do things for them unasked.

>>4879102
Probably glad he didn't push the issue when we acted aggressive towards him when we first met.
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>>4879070
supporting
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>>4879112
We trade for the dude then. I wonder what can sadia boys offer
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>>4879117
Imagine if Redsang is like cinnamon or red hot candies to us.
This guy is more of a figure head than anything. Now if we were able to deal with the rock guy we'd be in buisness.
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>>4879129
Deal with the rock guy? No, fuck the rock guy! Rock guy gotta be grind to dust. I mean, trading THE dude, not WITH the dude.

Sadia I have THE leader of dark star's franchise, what do you give me in exchange
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>>4879142
Except he's not THE dude, and Sadia's gonna figure that out real quick.
And then you'll have lied to them. Not just lied to them, but lied to them when they paid for the exchange.
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>>4879144
hmm... we didn't know that tho
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>>4879142
Not a good idea. We can give him to the cops which would be good enough for them, but the corpo guys will be pissed, and we've been told they dont like being fucked around with or incompetence. Maybe they might give us a token offering of like 300 credits for food money, but I dont expect much out of them.
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>>4879146
We didnt know that before we busted up the place, but we know that now. The guy is still next to worthless to Sadia.
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>>4879150
>>4879149
>>4879144
I concede, I concede. Appeasing sadia with a mid-tier grunt won't be profitable then
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>>4878998
RIP ganger boy, you will be tasty.
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>>4879150
Kel would still be worth something to them. Maybe not much, but something. And it would get you in their good graces.
Or you could just turn him into a cabin boy and send him on errands. Kyla could inject a tracking device into his abdomen and slap a remote-activated bomb collar around his neck.
He also technically has a small bounty, but he'll just end up in Sadia's hands anyways if you turn him in.

It'll be up to you lads.
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>>4879159
Can we just call ahead letting Sadia know were dropping him off and get paid twice?
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>>4879162
If 50 credits for a petty theft fine is worth the walk to the station, i guess.
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>>4879168
Meh, fuckem then, straight to Sadia. What are their thoughts on us ripping out the Dark Star in the building like the Spetz Naz?
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>>4879168
Literally no effort for free money? Yes, it is.
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>>4879168
>kel is a shoplifter
What a fucking asshole. We should throw him into a meat grinder feet first.
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Come on guys, I told you it was a good idea to hand him over to sadia
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>>4879238
I'm with you man. I say we hand him over to Stadia.
They run the place, may as well get in good with them.
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>>4879238
I agree
get in good graces with them is worth more than grocery money.
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>>4878894
Maybe not any humans...
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>>4879168
I think an idea. This guy has money, yes? So start a bidding war on if he gets let go or sent to the corporation since we only gave a fuck about dumbasses constantly trying to kill us?
Redsang sounds like caffeine?
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>>4878998
I would also like to add a couple of questions:
>Where are your armaments located in the station?
>Where do you keep the drugs at?
If we can find the guns then we can save on our Gatling phaser
>>4879324
That’s what I thought too
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thinking about it, if on the galactic scale the human liver is apparently leagues better and toxin filtration than other equivalent alien organs...
Then we're probably a medical nightmare to work on, compared to other aliens. It takes a lot more or a lot stronger stuff to get it to stick in our system long enough to work properly.

On a different note, aliens can't handle the smallest of crackrocks. Bitches.
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>>4879427
So if we want to make an Ayy's food "spicy" we just put a little bit of Ketchup on it?
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>>4879427
Might want to keep an eye on any doctor that works on us since they could do what we did with HeLa cells and steal them for insane amounts of money and research.
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>>4879427
A shot of whiskey puts ayys into toxic shock. I'm pretty sure a gram of crack would make their hearts literally explode.
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>>4879449
I assume even a bottle of coke would kill them in half a dozen ways.
Caffein overdose, the acidity, sugar shock etc.
Speaking of sugar, we are lucky the rotation matches, otherwise we would be fucked afaik
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>>4878998
>mega corp
>redsang smugglers
Are Sadia the Lumeris by any chance?
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>>4859222
Every self-respecting space captain needs some dead grigger storage.

>>4866191
I got here way too late, but I gotta say: Great fucking stuff QM. I read the entirety of the last thread.
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>>4880044
Anon you underestimate the powers of a jew. But I appreciate your spirit.
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>>4880009
Do we have a sign out front that says "Dead grigger storage"?
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Sorry lads, no update tonight. I'm high as balls. Thanks, stoner grandpa.
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>>4880114
Based gandpap
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>>4874397
>David storms the ship of his next bounty with an energy shield in one hand and a 1911 in the other
God bless the human imagination!
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>>4874475
I will use this as a reference for the animated series adaptation of HFY I may or may not now be working on :^)

Do you have an official title, something like "Adventures of David The Space Marine" or something like that?
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>>4880114
So what you're saying is that we need to snort an entire shipping container of drugs?
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>David isn't religious himself, but he's a big believer in christian values.
I can smell the self-insert from here, Coch. Get you some Yeshua Christo, it's good for the soul!
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>>4880087
Kyla can make one for us, we can be a morgue-mobile AND a mercenary vessel!
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>>4880212
>The morgue mobile also acts as a organ storage unit.
I like it already, we can double as mercenaries AND as back alley surgeons!
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I don't know about some of you guys, but I think we should invest in a large freezer and a few hundred credits worth of food to experiment on. We aught to show our crew members the wonders of human cuisine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NyN8ikEGio
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>>4880542
we gonna have to account all the incompatibilities to the food for our crew anon
what would happen if one of our crew shit itself to death? and the allergies too?
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>>4880565
>[oregon trail intensifies]
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Holy shit, grandpa.
I barely got that message out last night. Couldn't even see straight.
Still buzzed when i woke up this morning, too.
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>>4880565
>Implying the food sold in space isn't all genetically engineered hypoallergenic synth-crops
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>>4880565
The ship/ipad can just keep a registered list of toxins to our crew's species and scan the meals/ingredients ahead of time? Not that big of a deal outside of the fact that we're probably going to need David cookwear and pansy alien cookware kept seperate.
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>>4880140
No, we have to use a big warhammer with shotgun shells loaded into the tip that go off every time it hits something that fires alkaline metal into aliens.
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>>4880732
Soooo basically the Boom Hammer but more high-tech?
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>>4880754
Well if it can fire a shockwave of energy and makes anything we hit accelerate to light speed like flesh, turning enemy biomatter bits into projectile weapons for anything behind it then yes, more high tech!
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>>4878998

You inhale sharply through your nose, then exhale slowly through your mouth. It doesn't help to calm you down much.

"You know, kid... I really don't want to be that guy. But one of your men dropped a crate on my head, and i took that personally. So before we continue, we're gonna have to even things out."

"Even...?"

Grabbing a rag, you roll it up and forcibly stuff it into his mouth.
Then you pull your KABAR out of it's sheath and gesture to him.

"Give me a finger."

"W-Whrmn...?"

"GIVE ME ONE OF YOUR GODDAMN FINGERS!"

...

"Do you think he's alright in there?"

"Depends on who you're talking about. Dave'll be fine."

"Yeah, i guess... You know he fought a Chondrite today?"

"Really? Did he win?"

"Apparently... since he's not dead. David said he used a teleporting device to escape. That's what set off the alarms earlier."

"Yeah, i was wondering about that. Must have been really desperate to go in there unshielded."

"I don't even want to think about it. I looked out there once, you know. I was still a cub, curious... rebellious. Gave me nightmares for weeks."

"Oh yeah? I've had a few close ones myself. They said it changed me, but i feel fine. Hey, can you hand me the silver brazing rod?"

You both hear a long, drawn-out scream echo down the hall. It's not David.

"Why...? Why do you think he's like that? Normally he's so kind and peaceful, but as soon as he gets it in his head that someone is the enemy, it's like they aren't even people to him anymore."

"Could have been a supersoldier. I've heard stories like that, where they indoctrinate them so heavily that they don't even think about whether what they're doing is right or wrong anymore.
Interesting science behind it, but not very technical in nature. I didn't read much into it."

"That would explain his size, and these crazy guns."

Cylia reaches down and pats the revolver on her thigh. She's still carrying it, but hasn't fired it even once since it was given to her.

"Those things are a marvel, you know. I have no idea who came up with the idea, but they must have been really pissed off at something when they did it."

"I guess. It just makes me wonder what his homeworld is really like. I can't tell if half of what he's saying is true or not, but it all seems at least internally consistent."

"Most of it's true, i think. You can tell when he's joking. He'll get that little smirk in the corner of his mouth, like he's trying not to laugh at you."

"You can tell? Wait, so the thing about cockroaches?"

"Real."

"No way. What about drop bears?"

Kyla looks up from her little blue box for a moment, seeming to stare off into space before continuing whatever she's doing.

"...I'm not sure about that one. I can't even tell if Australia is a real place. But he talks about it with such confidence..."

...

"Shut up. I'm gonna put it on ice and you can take it with you when i'm done."

"IT HURTS SO BAHAHAHAHAAAD"

"If you don't shut up it's going straight up your ass instead."
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>>4880800
I wonder how this quest would read if it was written from alien perspective from the start
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>>4880800
> "Why...? Why do you think he's like that? Normally he's so kind and peaceful, but as soon as he gets it in his head that someone is the enemy, it's like they aren't even people to him anymore."

Did they not have wars pre-spaceflight? Or was it all some super honorable thing by Humans standard?
Also, enemies aren’t people, that’s just how it is.
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>>4880805
A horror qst
>>4880817
Kek
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>>4880835
Space wars aren't fought with people, they're fought with drones and robots, or in gigantic warships.
Casually throwing away thousands of lives over land, resources and ideology would be considered insane and barbaric.

Often times wars are merely "mock" in nature.
Two opponents will line up their resources and decide the winner on the spot without actually fighting, or after some minor skirmishes.
Only the truly desperate would actually burn those resources in a real war. Although it does happen on occasion, it's not every time.

You can think of it like a couple of peacocks strutting around, honestly. That's just what a non-predator war looks like.
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>>4880844
Damn, Sound boring x)
Guess we’ll have trouble finding war related work.
Isn’t our resident Cat a predator though? Are her people just not very warlike.
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>>4880844
Kinda sums up how most fights go with non hominids go too. Very few species on earth are willing to engage in actual battle/war unless the armies are disposable.
>>4880847
Can't have a war if you're not social. She seems to nominally be capable of social instincts but she's probably not like humans where we will pack bond with ANYTHING and have to have social interactions lest we go insane. I also suspect predatory species are being slightly nudged towards going solo all the time. It seems strange that she has mentioned some predatortown section of the station.
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>>4880847
Caithan are indeed predators. Cylia just grew up in a very peaceful era, and had a different concept of "bounty hunting" than what David has been doing.
Bounty hunting never meant killing your targets. It was supposed to be a challenge, something you could do to rack up personal achievements and glory.

>>4880854
It's a very human form of insanity.
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I have a feeling the more we’ll talk about our world history, the more they’ll start to wonder how we haven’t started a war of galactic conquest already if we have reached spaceflight.
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>>4880863
who said we won't?
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>>4880860
Ah, might want to talk to her about this soon
Different type of monkey do it too, so I’d say it’s a Monkey thing, really.
>>4880854
That Predatortown thing soon like a good recruitment center.
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>>4880873
Humans and monkeys aren't so different.
We're just a lot better at shitflinging.
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>>4880876
And shitposting. Can we keep the alien? I promise to water and feed him and take him our for walks.
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>>4880900
I'll put it up to a vote after the questioning is over.
Either you can turn him in for a pat on the ass from Sadia, or you can turn him into a uhhhh.... an indentured servant of sorts.
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>>4880905
If we were gonna turn him into our bitch, we wouldn't be slicing off his fingers like deli meat.
This fucker is going straight to Sadia. I bet they give great ass pats.
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>>4880863
And that's how we convince them to go along with our idea of pranking China. Democracies might get up to some shady shit, but space commies are bound to give the galactic alliance good reason to just destroy our planet.
>>4880873
I assume there isn't one on this station or else she would have sent us there. Maybe the anti meat thing is an official government stance and we have to go further out to the more lawless regions?
Random factoid about humans. Our sense of touch is so finely tuned that we can actually feel microscopically. I mention this because I find the idea of us thinking a bench is dirty and cleaning off the super ultra stealthy spy nanobots without realizing it funny.
>>4880905
I still say just get him to pay a ransom for himself since we've probably achieved our goal of the dumbasses leaving us alone. Since he's a weapons smuggler he can probably also show us his wares (that we inspect for traps or inspiration) and so forth. The guy even has a built in excuse about how some random superpredator tore up the whole operation on Sadia's behalf to not get shit on by his bosses. He can also just tell his underlings that the losses from fighting us is greater than just letting us rob him once before we wander off to some other space station.
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>>4880900
Depends... Is it house trained?
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>>4880918
>his bosses.
we literally had a punchout with his boss
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>>4880953
No. That was a random goon he hired to save his own ass. If I'm remembering wrong, then he left the dude for dead and it's on him for leaving us with access to everything he owns on the station.
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>>4880972
His boss was the rockman, this guy is just the face that takes the hit whenever the feds come down on them.

Or when we come down on them.
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>>4880976
I have the feeling that rockman is trying to pull something similar to us only he got stuck on making fast money on the galactic markets - and if you are a supersoldier equivalent, forming your own crime syndicate will net you fast and relatively large quantities of shekels with somewhat less of a notoriety as hunting after the largest bounties - the last one might be competitive but you are going to draw way more attention that way from a lot more people than just annoying someone whom you are going to muscle out of the market.
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Never forget
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>>4880976
Cool. Still a perfect excuse for the guy to just give us a bunch of free stuff to keep himself alive.

https://youtu.be/t9ie-M7iuDA?t=84
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>>4880800
>"Why...? Why do you think he's like that? Normally he's so kind and peaceful, but as soon as he gets it in his head that someone is the enemy, it's like they aren't even people to him anymore."
>"Could have been a supersoldier. I've heard stories like that, where they indoctrinate them so heavily that they don't even think about whether what they're doing is right or wrong anymore.
>Interesting science behind it, but not very technical in nature. I didn't read much into it."
>"That would explain his size, and these crazy guns."
>>4880844
>Space wars aren't fought with people, they're fought with drones and robots, or in gigantic warships.
>Casually throwing away thousands of lives over land, resources and ideology would be considered insane and barbaric.
>Often times wars are merely "mock" in nature.
>Two opponents will line up their resources and decide the winner on the spot without actually fighting, or after some minor skirmishes.
>Only the truly desperate would actually burn those resources in a real war. Although it does happen on occasion, it's not every time.
>You can think of it like a couple of peacocks strutting around, honestly. That's just what a non-predator war looks like.
Soldier indoctrination is for them supersoldier programs...
Oh hell if we can use the dead grigger hemlet to transpose some of the martial music and some of the mandatory literature in our dudes head they might have some serious wtf moments.

And if they know that creating supersoldiers from their perspective is the default for relevant powers on earth, they might have the non retarded idea to have us keep our mouth shut about such stuff.

The scenes would be fun, but imho it is better to keep that to ourselves until post second/third contact

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFMqbAdNxTk
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>>4881064
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJNz2QgSNsk
I think it'll be funny. We should at least show our friends some of our army songs.
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>>4881023
Personally I don't buy that Stonebuilt was THE leader of the entire gang - IIRC it was stated that the Gang(I forget the name) originated from somewhere else in the galaxy(?)
Sure, Stonebuilt was running the local branch, but the ENTIRE gang? Bullshit, says I.

Now, unrelated but I had an idea about how to get our inevitable mercs using standard Human rifles *potentially* without ripping off their arms.
Namely looking into minituarizing ship Inertial Dampeners and shoving the result into rifle stocks. Dunno if it would work but hey, just voicing the idea.
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>>4881098
It probably also would not hurt to also stick with calibers of the smaller variety for the time being. And maybe mount some kind of accelerator onto the front of the gun to make the bullets go faster. (Said accelerator can be turned on and off in the case of enemy shields activating against super fast rounds)
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>>4881098
Wasn't there some kinds of rifles design that minimized recoil? Something about the chamber extending into the shoulder stock, or just having a recoil absorbing stock?
We could just outfit everyone with 9mm pistols. Small enough powder to not break your hand like a .50-70 Gov revolver, but with small enough bullets to give you that penetration power.
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>>4881116
>>4881118
So 5.56 or SMGs then?

Or even .22?
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>>4881116
Oh sure, I didn't mean that we research mini inertia dampeners in the near future - but I do want to look in to that when we have a proper merc organization going on with the people AND the fabricators to delegate the research to
>>4881118
>Wasn't there some kinds of rifles design that minimized recoil?
That I have no idea about. First time hearing about it, too.
9mm for everyone sounds sensible, though.
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>>4881123
Probably. I'm woefully inept when it comes to SMG's beyond the fact they can be customized to be more portable than rifles, but 5.56 has enough ammo variants I think. .22lr's will be for the guys with glass bones.
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>>4881131
I Think I might had confused myself with some obscure bullpup or recoil reducing related gun design, whatever it was, I forgot about it. I'm rambling.
For sure stocks can be made to absorb recoil for cheap, or at least it should be simpler than sticking a recoil dampener in a gun. The less complicated it gets, the easier it is to produce and maintain.
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>>4881150
We could just let Kyla start disassembling an AR-15 and create a model useable for aliens.
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>>4881098
Why not just have them all in weaker versions of the power suits we're gonna make for ourselves? They can double as a uniform to scare the crap out of enemies once we become notorious.
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>>4881135
SMGs are effectively anything bigger than a pistol that's both full auto and shoots a pistol bullet. Hence the "Sub" in Submachinegun. They're inaccurate but they're good for close quarters work because they're short and easily manuvered. Some classic examples of SMGs are the Tompson, the Uzi(even if you might consider it more of a machine pistol) the MP5, the Sten, and other similar weapons.

.22 is still a relatively formidable cartridge. It can kill someone, even if it's not as good at it as other cartridges. The advantage is that it's both light and compact, so you can fit way more ammunition into a given space, while the disadvantage is obviously less range and power. I know of at least a couple of full auto weapons in .22, and they have practically no recoil and either fire of way longer or way faster than their larger counterparts.
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>>4881123
>>4881135
Yeah .22 should be basic enough as both a weapon for glass bone buddys and as a training caliber, but we should look into slightly larger rounds like .38 cal, or heck even 9mm since 9mm while it doesn't have as much stopping power, makes up for it with piercing.

>>4881159
Also a good idea.
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>>4881164
Power Suits will undoubtable cost a micro fortune, so we'll need to keep a small number of them. We shouldn't plan that far ahead until we get an actual battle tested working model first. From there we can calculate costs, then patent the design for our own uses, and get royalties.

>>4881168
Essentially angry bees. SMG's would be great for boarding actions against relatively small ships, like ships roughly the same size as the one we use.

>>4881173
We won't need bullets that big unless we're in a large station, or boarding a giant ship with thick armored hulls.
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The obvious solution is to have them wear micro shield emitters tuned to the velocity of the stock as the weapon fires so that it dampens the recoil.

EZ PZ
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>>4881183
>We won't need bullets that big unless we're in a large station, or boarding a giant ship with thick armored hulls.
>That big
Anon those are all babby calibers that can be shot with little to no problem, you're also not taking into account of alien opponents that might carry armor or shielding down the line. If you really wanted me to bring up big fat bullets then 50. Cal or even 14.5×114mm would be great for putting the thrill of the hunt into motherfuckers like rockboy. Or hell, just grab an automatic grenade launcher for when overkill is not enough.
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>>4881123
>Or even .22?
There is that .22 minigun...was lurking this quest and thought it weird no one thought of mini-BRRT gun with super-space-material tipped bullets for penetration as a option.
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>>4881200
Majority of the shields, or all the shields we've come across so far have only been tailored to blocking phasers, nut bullets. No one has accounted for those yet so we're fine. Besides, our .45 did enough damage to the rock guy. If we stopped talked and just kept shooting we could had killed him if we really wanted to.

The issue is when we miss our shot and don't hit the tough guy with the armor (not counting shields yet), because that stray bullet will cause some issues else where.

>Anon those are all babby calibers that can be shot with little to no problem
If you say so. I'm cautious towards bullets with high penetration power.
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>>4881200
>not carrying a Lahti for hunting squirrels
Outrageous.
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>>4881200
Or just get ourselves an automatic shotgun and pay the exorbitant cost for microgrenade ammo.

Because automatic grenade launchers are heavy mother fuckers.
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>>4881211
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdGueKkjQlk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHKOYu1Sr-4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxZGepH_d5M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3Dp6Fass2Y
SWARM OF ANGRY BEEES!!!!!
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>>4880900
Aah yes let's keep the guy we've brutalized around on our ship and near us. Inevitably unattended for periods of time at some point or another. Surely this won't backfire on us in any way.
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>>4881212
>If you say so. I'm cautious towards bullets with high penetration power.
You know what? I can understand that and can hold off on it for the near future. But in the case of us doing planetside combat we shouldn't count the round types out.
>>4881218
>Not dual wielding TWO Lahtis
ngmi
>>4881220
There's that too.
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>>4881223
Nah nah. We're giving him to the corpos.

>>4881228
agreed.

>>4881220
Full auto box fed shotgun with all birdshot. Won't depressurize small ships, but will kill any and everything.
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>>4881212
>bullets with high penetration power.
.22 lr doesn't really have a lot of penetration power. .22 hornet though.

>>4881228
>>Not dual wielding TWO Lahtis
I just want to use the sled bipod alright
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>>4881248
>.22 lr doesn't really have a lot of penetration power. .22 hornet though.
.22 Ergeshplittenlaudenboomer
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>>4881292
.22 Light Rifle Armour Piercing High Explosive Squash Head Fragmenting Sabot Depleted Uranium? I like your style although if you want maximum density for your bullet, use Osmium: it's 22 grams rather than 19 per cubic cm AND really hard, making it far better than uranium for bullets.
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>>4881223
The boy is not what you would call a hardened criminal.
At this point he'd be happy just to have his life at the end of this.
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>>4881118
absorption pads, and maybe recoiling barrels?

There are rocket propelled bullets, maybe combine them all for softer recoil.
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>>4881307
>using osmium instead of uranium
>having to pay $300 for a single .22
Jaysos meng
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>>4881316
I'd like to believe you, but you've already said he's shoplifted. Pretty intense stuff. He's already on the path, it's only a matter of time now.
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>>4881307
Sure but the softness of uranium makes it self-sharpen as it goes through armor. At least with tank rounds anyway.
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>>4881339
We've 3-D printing space computers that can access damn near any atomic structure we want. Why not? I mean similarly, caseless ammo is a thing to consider too given no production costs, high reliability (using exotic space igniters and shit) AND reduced weight / volume for improved performance. Not to mention, Multi-Projectile-Ammo is always a way of boosting effective firepower.

>>4881350
That makes sense.
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>>4881393
Honestly I'm surprised there isn't a kill-on-sight order for the guy. Fucking shoplifting. Fuck.
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>>4881339
>>4881395

>>4881244
>>4881228

considering the cost we could go for ludicrous bullshit like artificial diamonds shards or high mass penetrator cores, or pressurized vaporised flamable material or contact explosives, and other fun stuff...
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>>4881490
>considering the cost we could go for ludicrous bullshit like artificial diamonds shards or high mass penetrator cores, or pressurized vaporised flamable material or contact explosives, and other fun stuff...
Or the Gluon Gun from Half Life 1. Loved that sucker.
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>>4881490
Bringing back immediate action incendiary rounds, eh?

Remember that explosions and fires in a space ship are a no go.
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>>4881316
You say this like he also can't be easily intimidated into betraying us. His loyalty is dependent on not dying, so somebody else threatening to kill him before we do means he's got better chances hoping we don't kill him and/or running away afterwards.
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>>4881498
Imagine if we had a Tau cannon though.
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>>4881316
lmao femboy alien bussi. just hand him off to the corporation and see if we can get a discount on their products.

>>4881535
Big combat ships have railgun. We can do this. Maybe even make a function infantry sized one.
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>>4880800
I came back for gold, it is a good feeling.
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>>4880805
Horror and pet quest, rolled into one. I imagine like a Magical Girl quest but instead of getting the power yourself, you just point the angry monster at the bad guys.
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We should tell them about whales. Like, actual whales, not metaphorical ones.
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>>4881723
What about the Jellyfish? Or the Sharks? Or the Hippopotamus?
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>>4881726
Tell them about all of those, but make it clear that despite their appearance sharks are the least dangerous things on the list.
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>>4881734
>So it's an aquatic killing machine that spends its entire existence eating and doesn't even sleep properly, it also weighs a literal ton and it can jump out of the water?
>Yeah but like jellyfish kill more people a year than they do
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>>4881726
>>4881723
>>4881667
Man now I can really see a small TV series where Bear Grylls takes aliens out into the wilderness for survival training.
>Alien: "And you drink your what now?"
>Bear: "Not always but if you desperately need liquids and there's no source of fresh water it will help in a jiffy."
>>4881734
>Alien: "Wait how is the plant eater the most dangerous one of the three? It doesn't even eat meat!"
>David: "That's half the danger right there, people not realizing that you don't need to eat meat to be dangerous. That and be heavier than a small truck."
>David: "That reminds me, did you know that Moose are agile enough to chase down most things on foot?"
>Alien's face when
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>>4881740
Wait till they hear about the great Crocodile Dundee.
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>>4881742
Oh man now you're making wish we have copies of all five seasons of The Crocodile Hunter.
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>>4881749
We are a Marine, are you saying we don't have the videos memorized?
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>>4881749
>>4881754
Actually, no, I want a copy of Crocodile Dundee's training regiment and him going around to pro wrestlers and other martial artists and trying to get them to break out his holds.
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>>4881736
>BUT HOW
>They don't like how people taste
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>>4881754
It's one thing to tell them, it's another thing to experience the madness that is Steve Irwin.
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>>4881740
>But WHY are they so dangerous
>They hate everything and will kill you specifically because you're easy to kill and nearby
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>>4881787
>And because you spooked their children.
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>>4881789
No, that's literally everything but hippos, they'll kill you for literally no reason, whether or not they have kids and whether or not you're near them.
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>>4881791
Yes I am aware, I just found it funny to add on as a minor thing rather than anything huge.
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>>4880800

You give Kel some time to calm down after "evening up" with him.
And then it's straight back into the questioning.

"Alright, boy. You've had your time."

He continues whimpering and crying, as he's been doing for the past twenty minutes. It's starting to wear on your nerves.
You kick him over in his chair, dumping him out onto the floor. Grabbing his collar, you hoist him up onto his feet.

"Tell me, boy. Where did Gron run to?"

"I--I---I D-DON'T-"

"Don't lie to me, boy."

"I SWEAR I DON'T KNOW! HE DIDN'T TELL ME ANYTHING, I PROMISE!"

"I believe you."

Kel grins widely while nodding his head in affirmation, tears and snot still flowing from his face.

"Where's all the cash?"

Kel's smile turns into a frown, and all the green drains from his face.

"G-Gron-"

"Don't give me that bullshit. You must have some resources available to you. No way you could do his paperwork otherwise."

"L-Left pocket! Take it, take it all!"

Reaching into his pocket, you pull out his holopad and open it up using his severed finger.
There are communications logs in here between him and several other Dark Star agents on the station. Names, locations... all sitting ducks.
Besides that, there's approximately 74,000 credits under his control, spread across several accounts.

You drain all of it, and transfer all the chat logs over to your own pad.

"That's good, yeah? Y-You'll let me g-g-go?"

"Would you stop fucking stuttering already? And no, i'm not letting you go until i'm satisfied. How many members of Dark Star are left on the station?"

"Uh... i dunno, about 80? I don't know how many you killed..."

"All of them."

"Oh god. Zerzal?"

"Especially Zerzal."

You have no idea who Zerzal was.

"Tell me, boy. What made you think trying to take me out was a good idea? Why not try and hire me instead?"

"Gron said we're not supposed to show weakness! If someone messes with us, we beat them half to death. But he saw what you did to Jak and Velka, and he wanted to make you an... an example."

"Well, we see how that worked out for him. Do you have any hideouts? Weapon caches? Hidden valuables?"

"Uhh.. well, n-not really?"

You grab him forcefully by the head and stare straight at him.

"Look me in the eyes when you tell me that, boy. I can see when you're lying."

"Oh god! Here, here! Look, on the corner of Geknal and Vretch, there's a storehouse! We've got some phaser rifles, shield belts and a weapons fab there!"

"Good boy. Now, do you know anything about the other gangs on this station?"

"There aren't any! Sadia doesn't let them crop up normally, but Gron was feeding us supplies and credits!"

"And where's this redsang you boys were smuggling?"

"At the storehouse, same place! There's not much, a shipment just went out recently!"

"How recently?"

"Two weeks ago!"

"Huh, alright. Last question then."

"Oh thank goodness, finally..."
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>>4881824

"Can you guess what i'm going to do with you next?"

>I'm gonna put a tracking chip in you and a bomb collar around your neck. If you ever betray me, your head is automatically going pop open like a balloon.
>You're going to work for me for the rest of your life. If i don't receive five thousand credits every week, i'm going to come for you and you're going to end up just like Zerzal.
>...Do you see who this is on my contacts list? One mister "Jet", first name "Big". I think he'll be very happy to buy you off me, along with the information from your holopad.
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>>4881839
>...Do you see who this is on my contacts list? One mister "Jet", first name "Big". I think he'll be very happy to buy you off me, along with the information from your holopad.
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>>4881839
>...Do you see who this is on my contacts list? One mister "Jet", first name "Big". I think he'll be very happy to buy you off me, along with the information from your holopad.
Just got 70k credits and we can get into the good graces of the people who basically own this station? Hell yeah!
Good news is we should have enough to now complete some of our lower cost projects like the prototype power armour and Gatling laser
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>>4881839
>...Do you see who this is on my contacts list? One mister "Jet", first name "Big". I think he'll be very happy to buy you off me, along with the information from your holopad.
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>>4881839
>...Do you see who this is on my contacts list? One mister "Jet", first name "Big". I think he'll be very happy to buy you off me, along with the information from your holopad.
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>>4881839
>...Do you see who this is on my contacts list? One mister "Jet", first name "Big". I think he'll be very happy to buy you off me, along with the information from your holopad.
RIP Zerkal. He sure was an alien I guess.
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Question for the other anons:
Should we raid the storehouse and take the weapons fab and shields for ourselves?
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>>4881852
Absolutely. That's free shit nobody is gonna miss. Better we get it before the Cops or Sadia do.
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>>4881839
>...Do you see who this is on my contacts list? One mister "Jet", first name "Big". I think he'll be very happy to buy you off me, along with the information from your holopad.
make sure to mention (while also giving Mr. Jet Kiel's finger ) he's probably tortured out, there's a small chance of him continuing down the same track
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>>4881852
You'll have time to grab it all before Sadia interrogates him and acts on it.
Nobody'll be surprised if it's gone by the time they get there.
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>>4881858
In that case I say we head out immediately, I doubt they will expect a second assault this quickly
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>>4881839
>...Do you see who this is on my contacts list? One mister "Jet", first name "Big". I think he'll be very happy to buy you off me, along with the information from your holopad.
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>>4881864
Agreed.
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>>4881839
>You're going to work for me for the rest of your life.
I'd like to use this guys as an informant, a mole, or a trap to lure in more Dark Star members.
I think if we tall Jet about all the info, and offer to clean them up for him, we could squeeze in some payment.

>>4881852
YES

>>4881858
Lets grab the shit first.
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>>4881858
>Redsang
>highly addictive
>affordable enough that College Student can get some
Calling you our right now, Redsang is caffeine. You haven't shown us what it looks like, so I assume it red in only name.
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>>4881839
>...Do you see who this is on my contacts list? One mister "Jet", first name "Big". I think he'll be very happy to buy you off me, along with the information from your holopad.
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>>4881824
>Especially Zerzal
I kekked
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>>4881858
Do aliens have cloning technology? I want to clone up a dire wolf.
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>>4881824
>>4881839
>...Do you see who this is on my contacts list? One mister "Jet", first name "Big". I think he'll be very happy to buy you off me, along with the information from your holopad.
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>>4881926
The greys do.
Besides that, it's considered specialized medical care and typically used for regrowing lost body parts or failing organs.
No medical facility is going to let you just dick around with their cloning vats.
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>>4881933
So Dead Space rules without growing infants to harvest. Neat.
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>>4881933
>We've got some phaser rifles, shield belts and a weapons fab there!
>and a weapons fab there!
>weapons fab
I am painfully erect now.
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>>4881945
If we raid this place we can get our Gatling laser for free!
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>>4881896
What if it's like cocaine or adderall? Red cocaine would be pretty cool.
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>>4881945
>We loot the Weapons fab
>Get a mental Hook up to share ideas
>Get a weapon builder to dump the knowledge into
>Bring forth the madness of human weapons to reality
>Profit.
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>>4881839
>...Do you see who this is on my contacts list? One mister "Jet", first name "Big". I think he'll be very happy to buy you off me, along with the information from your holopad.
I pity the dumb buggy bastard, but with how much the QM made David brutalize him, there's no way the power of friendship is gonna win him over. I don't want the USS Metal Gear to be run by fear, and the last thing we need is crew betrayals.
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>>4881957
>Bring forth the madness of human weapons to reality

>Bring out and proliferate the only weapons than can kill or harm us.
Yeah, lets just save human weapons for emergencies and use the alien stuff for now.
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>>4881839
>>...Do you see who this is on my contacts list? One mister "Jet", first name "Big". I think he'll be very happy to buy you off me, along with the information from your holopad.
they fuck with a us marine never fuck with anybody from the us military
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>>4882014
Y'know what'd be based as fuck? David going back to Earth and recruiting some old NATO buddies for his soldiers without borders interstellar mercenary group. >Rainbow Six: Space Force
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>>4882058
I still want to see if sloping ablative materials would work.
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>>4882012
Where is the fun in that, lets get Mechwarrior in this show.
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>>4882058
That sounds horrifying to our current crew members, imagine their faces when WE are the sane one.
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>>4882084
You aren't.
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>>4881896
This is hilarious and would make so much sense.
>>4882000
Checked and agreed, I can't imagine keeping this kid around and not feeling sorry for him.
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>>4882089
You're telling me there wasn't a demolition specialist who forgot he wasn't in a warzone anymore and put landmines in his front yard and was sent to prison because his mailman stepped on one and fucking died?

Lucky for the mailman I guess.
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>>4882089
Pfft, damn, oh well, it would be a good lesson that other people are still sane in our species and we are an exception. Would have been funnier for the horror aspect though, oh well.
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>>4882094
I was hoping to make a not TF2 reference, and the Demoman be a black Scotsman.
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>>4881839
>...Do you see who this is on my contacts list? One mister "Jet", first name "Big". I think he'll be very happy to buy you off me, along with the information from your holopad.

You never know when there might be 10 votes overnight so I better vote now. I wonder what is the difference between a regular fab and a weapons fab. Is it all the science-magic that makes the blasters work? and I guess it prints better plastics compared to the regular fabricator...
I wonder if we can just grab the whole thing and jam it in the ship. Wait, guys guys!!!
Now that we have some credits can we
>refurbish the ship's interior
Even though jamming a vacuum cleaner up your ass is peak space camping experience, David would be more comfortable with something that doesn't threaten to prolapse all the way to his mouth
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>>4882283
>a ten thousand credit shitter
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>>4882089
Will David have to share the credits with everyone? I had something in mind where we could convert a portion of our Goblin friend's quarters into a make shift merchant stall, or advertise her services from the ship. In case she wants to make a little extra side cash for when we're docked on a planet or station for an extended period of time and she doesnt want to leave the ship.
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>>4880800
>where they indoctrinate them so heavily that they don't even think about whether what they're doing is right or wrong anymore.
Accurate description of the military, holy kek
>>4881839
>Do you see who this is on my contacts list? One mister "Jet", first name "Big". I think he'll be very happy to buy you off me, along with the information from your holopad.
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>>4881839
>...Do you see who this is on my contacts list? One mister "Jet", first name "Big". I think he'll be very happy to buy you off me, along with the information from your holopad.
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>>4881839
>I'm gonna put a tracking chip in you and a bomb collar around your neck. If you ever betray me, your head is automatically going pop open like a balloon.
>>4882089
I honestly don’t think we are that insane, we’re a bit violent but far from what I’d call insanity.
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>>4882361
Just wait until we bust out the white phosphorous and smile before we even use it because we know exactly how much it's going to hurt the entire time they're dying.
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>>4882371
>I love the smell of Napalm in the morning.
>Sets stick of toxic herbs on fire
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>>4882324
Not this time. You would have split it with Cylia if she had... you know, actually helped.
David will probably give her a thousand credits for being there, along with one of these.
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>>4882642
Can the weapons Fab also produce shields?
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>>4882687
Yes, but you'll need to buy dark matter and dark energy capsules for it.
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>>4881839

"Are you going to let me go?"

"...Do you see who this is on my contacts list? One mister "Jet", first name "Big". I think he'll be very happy to buy you off me, along with the information from your holopad."

"Oh. Oh god no, please! Anything but that! They'll kill me!"

Ignoring him, you grab his collar and shove him into an open cryo pod. He continues his muffled screams right up until the antifreeze pumps through his veins.

"Alright boys, interrogations are over! I have some information on a Dark Star warehouse with some good equipment we could use. Kyla, bring the-"

"Can't, busy."

She doesn't bother looking up from the little blue box she's been working on all this time. Something clicks inside of it, and it begins floating as it opens up and glows with a dim blue light.

"Hehehehe."

There's that creepy laugh again.

"Okay... Cylia, get the hovercart. We've got some shit to grab."

"Alright, but should we be worried about whoever's guarding it?"

"Somehow i doubt it. You can head on down to Zakera, i'm gonna grab a tarp from the clothing fab first."

"Where are we headed?"

"To the corner of uh... Gookle? Grekna? Here. We're going to the corner of right fucking here."

After giving Cylia your map data and grabbing a tarp, you meet up near the corner of Geknal and Vretch. Sure enough, there's a building on the corner with some goons outside of it.

"What are they doing?"

"Punching eachother."

"Why?"

"Could be because they're guys. Could be because they're dumbasses. Could be they're just that bored. Doesn't matter."

Casually walking up to them, you tap one of the guys on the shoulder.

"Hey fellas. My turn?"

Without waiting for a response, you cold-cock him.
The other one looks like he's about to pull out a knife, but he's quickly knocked out as well.
You drop them both into a dumpster nearby.

You're about to kick open the front door of the building, but Cylia stops you.

"What? What's the matter?"

She gives you a look, then reaches over and simply opens the door normally.

"Alright then."

The place seems mostly empty, with not much in here except some furniture and a few televisions. You steal one of the televisions, because fuck it.
Upstairs though, you find another guard. He seems confused as he doesn't recognize you.

"Hey bud, you know where the weapons fab is? I've been thinking i need some new gear."

"What? Who the hell are you, a new guy? Look, only Sanig gets to print weapons. If you want something you'd better talk to him, and only after you get permission from Kel, understood?"

"Oh i understand."

"Good, now g-"

His sentence is cut off as you slam his head through the drywall.
There are only a few open rooms on the second floor. Most of the floor, you reckon, must be behind the big, obviously reinforced steel door in the middle of the hall.

"Cylia, cover your ears."

Waiting for her to do as you say, you load a few exploding shells into the KS-23 and fire them into the locking mechanism and hinges.
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>>4882790
When we steal the fab and guns we are coming back for the rest of the TVs
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>>4882830
This

>>4882790
Dont forget to steal their weapons, knives, and shields off their bodies. Are any of the furniture nice? Steal the nice ones too.
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>>4882790
We looting everything out here>>4882830
>>4882840
We gotta take whatever their equivalent of a mini fridge is.
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>>4882854
This too. If it's an actual normal sized fridge then that's better. We dont actually have a means to preserve food yet so we need one of these.
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>>4882869
Take everything that isn’t nailed down to the floor
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>>4882872
>Not taking even the nails and welds
Pffft look at this Goyim, not a proper Jew.
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>>4882872
Just dismantle the building and take everything.
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>>4882884
+1
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>>4882884
Time to perform the greatest heist of all time.
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>>4882906
in the sierra madre

Just put all the gear, TVs, fabs and furniture in some guy's head and carry it over to the ship
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>>4882908
We can actually do that too....
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>>4882790
>"What? What's the matter?"
>She gives you a look, then reaches over and simply opens the door normally.
Good stuff
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>>4882790
I guess we're leaving the station after we loot everything then? We've basically got all of the good bounties or they're dead and there's not really any point in caring about having good standing with some minor corporation unless we decide to hide out here again later.
I think we need to find one of those secret grey bases. It'll make a good safehouse or make good parts for one.
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>>4883115
I dont think Sadia is a minor corporation but once we refuel and tack on those auto cannons to the ship and finish up some of our minor projects then sure.
Where would we go though after though? Take a side trip to cat girls home world?
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>>4883144
The ship has a map. We could just pick somewhere and set the ship to notify us if we pass near a star system with 8+ planets along with an asteroid belt in between the third and fourth planets. Maybe add some more details to the search query like the 3rd planet having about 1g of gravity and a single moon.?
Or we see if the aliens are dumb enough to leave info on what criteria they use for secret bases. We can either take over the bases to find out what the greys are up to or any other ideas we have once we've got them. Black ops are easy targets for now and Cylia would probably like it more if we stuffed them in the cryo chambers instead of executing them all anyway.
Sadia was getting muscled out by some gang of randos. I'd say they're minor.
On a side note. Where's the patent office? Making that Nutri sludge into an edible form probably counts as a major accomplishment that can rake in a great deal of income.
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>>4882884
Can we take the whale building?
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>>4883188
>niggas stealing sea-world now
Can't have shit in Sadiatroit.
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>>4883167
Wait a second, don’t we still have to meet that shopkeeper we saved who owns a salad bar? We could sell it to him.
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>>4883207
Oh shit! I've been saying that since thread one!!! We gotta eat that salad
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>>4883188
Honestly. if we weren't under time constraints I'd strap an engine or some rope to the building and tow the whole thing when we leave.
I completely forgot to mention this earlier, but would be be able to get a portable gravity generator?
It can be either in grenade form or where we just make a small arena of 1g. If I understand things right that alone will lock rock dude in one place and make the real problem getting the portable warp thingy off of him.
All of our crew hopefully adapting to 1g (or we give them medical enhancements so that they can?) means the grenades do little to nothing to our crew. Side note. Where is Cyril's old ship? We should take/get it back if it's still owned by the gang.
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>>4882283
I want carpeting in the living room and a toilet rug.
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>>4883288
Under time constraints? Kinda hoping more of those gangsters show up, especially rock man so we can finish him for good.
Or, depending on if no one has raised any silent alarms we can wait here for him to come by and then ambush him.
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>>4883568
We'll run into him some other time when we accidentally ruin even more of his gangs that keep pulping themselves via attacking us. The important thing here is to have a general solution to the rare plausible threat.
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>>4882790

After giving the smoke a moment to clear, you kick down the metal door, letting it land on the floor with a loud clang.

"You just had to, didn't you?"

"Let's be fair, that one was probably locked."

As you walk through the entrance, something smacks you across the shin.

"Ow, fuck!"

"You think you take me out, you little bastard?! I'm not going down without a fight!"

It's a grey! And he's really goddamn old!
Once again he tries to smack you across the shin with his cane but you yoink it out of his hand, causing him to fall over.

"Sorry grandpa, didn't mean to wake you from your nap."

"Who are you calling old, you son of an Arlian whore?!"

The old man pulls a black rod out of his robe and pokes you in the ankle with it.
Nothing happens at first, but then it zaps the hell out of your foot.

"Gah, fuck! Stop that, goddamn it!"

"He's got some spunk for his age, huh?"

"My name is Sanig, and i'm the greatest weaponsmith ever to live! I won't go quietly! If i'm going down, i'm taking all you bastards with me!"

Sanig then proceeds to pull something out of his robe again. Something that looks suspiciously like a remote detonator, and so you yank it away from him before he can push the button.

"Woah there gramps, that's about enough of that-"

He then pulls out a SECOND detonator, which you also have to take away from him.

"Fornicate yourself, you damned ape-oid!"

"Jeeze, alright. You can stop now, i'm not planning on killing you."

"I don't believe you! That's what the Koralid federation told me four hundred years ago, and then they killed my second best apprentice! You ever heard of the Koralids, boy?!"

"No, i can't say i have."

"And you never will! That was all me! Just try it, punk!"

"I'm not trying anything. You on the other hand, are trying my patience. Look, we're just here to steal all this shit. I don't know if you're working with Dark Star or what, but their operation is about to fall apart on this station. You might want to get the hell out."

"Oh. Well, blast."

"David, the fab is over here. Can you help me lift it?"

"Sure. I'll tilt it up, you just grab it at the sides there."

"Wait a minute! Why are you two stealing a weapons fab?"

"To make weapons, grandpa. I would think that's pretty obvious."

"So you're not just selling it, huh? Tell me, do you need a weapons designer?"

"Nope."

"What? Why not?!"

"Because the guy applying for the position is a grey, a gangster, a senile old man, a complete stranger and an asshole who shocked me."

"And you're an ugly bastard with no respect for his elders! Listen here, i may be old but my mind is still sharp!"

"Just set it down there, real gentle like."

"David, it's heavy! Go a little faster, please?"

"Watch your fingers."

"HEY! ARE YOU LISTENING TO ME?!"

"Kinda hard not to, gramps!"

"Then give me some work! All i want is to keep making weapons like the old days! I don't care who it's for, or what you make! You could blow up the whole damn station if you wanted!"
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>>4883167
>Sadia was getting muscled out by some gang of randos. I'd say they're minor.
Nah they were getting muscled out by some randos who were receiving extensive support from one the largest gangs in the region. Extensive support including the leader of said gang (well at least per unreliable intel).
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>>4883707
"Well Gramps what if I told you I stole one of your kind's ships after the whole crew suffered an unfortunate accident involving half a grey of radiation? You still don't care who you work for?"

Yeah let's not pass up on the 400+ year old weapon designer, what with all the crazy shit we can think up.
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>>4883707

>I'll consider it. Give me your number, i'll call you when i decide.
>Fine, gramps. You can come on... for now. We'll see what you can do.
>Bite me, old man. I'm not trusting a damned grey on the same ship where i sleep.
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>>4883725
>I'll consider it. Give me your number, i'll call you when i decide.
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>>4883725
>working a grey on a grey ship

As long as he doesn't get command controls, that works.

I'm sure he'd love the knowledge we have.
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>>4883734
You're the only one with any command over the ship, and the only one with authority to grant control.
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>>4883725
>Fine, gramps. You can come on... for now. We'll see what you can do.
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>>4883725
No way am I letting a grey anywhere near my ship. The only Greys I've seen before you were going to vivisect me and may have started a nuclear holocaust on my home planet because they were too stupid to avoid our basic detection systems.
>>4883737
Not reassuring at all when we got it via everyone else dying off despite being a captive and I'm trying to stay in character here, so I wouldn't know this anyway.
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>>4883725
>Fine, gramps. You can come on... for now. We'll see what you can do.
>Now tell me more about what you did to those Koralids. War stories are always nice.
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>>4883725
>Fine, gramps. You can come on... for now. We'll see what you can do.
Before we bring him in though quickly dispose of those other bodies.
>>4883759
Support for them war stories
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>>4883761
They aren't bodies yet. Probably.
You just knocked them out. Given spacer alien tech, they'll probably be fine.

Probably.
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>>4883768
Dispose of them either way, these are the fuckers who kidnapped us
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>>4883770
The rest of them aren't greys.
In fact, this old man is the only grey you've seen besides the ones who did abduct you.
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>>4883725
>Fine, gramps. You can come on... for now. We'll see what you can do.
This guy's great, he tries to take out someone literally more than twice his height with absolutely no fear, AND he's channeled his intellect into something we can appreciate: The fine art of making things go boom
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>>4883775
Old people ran out of fucks to give years ago.
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>>4883770
We can just dispose of them in a cryo fridge on a random asteroid later if we have the foresight to restock on cryo fluid in the off chance we need to do that on ourselves to survive..
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>>4883725
Grandpa just get on the tram
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>>4883774
>>4883768
He's talking about disposing of the Grey bodies we have on the ship, which we've all assumed were killed by radiation.
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>>4883786
Oh. Derp, i'm a fucking idiot.
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>>4883786
I thought they already were?
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>>4883787
>They aren't bodies yet. Probably.
>You just knocked them out. Given spacer alien tech, they'll probably be fine.

>Probably.

<<Ominous vibes intensify>>
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>>4883793
Nope. Right now you still have the greys piled up all in one pod, Randall in another and Kel in yet another. The latter two are still alive. There are five pods in total.

>>4883796
Well, when you take a bad blow to the head like that, there's always a chance you just never wake up.
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>>4883797
No I was trying to imply the Greys in our fridge have zombified. It was a stretch anyway, don't worry about it.
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>>4883725
>Bite me, old man. I'm not trusting a damned grey on the same ship where i sleep.

DO NOT RELAX
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>>4883803
Too late, i'm going to bed.
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>>4883806
nooooooooo David relaxed!!!
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>>4883725
this, then
>>4883722
>Fine, gramps. You can come on... for now. We'll see what you can do.
>>4883759
support for war stories, make sure to ask him what a grey is doing out here anyway, I thought they were communal isolationists. need to also make sure to dispose of the bodies
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>>4883810
I think we found someone who can make our antimatter cannons!
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>>4883827
Honestly I think that 'weapons designer' probably is more broad than 'gunsmith'. I wouldn't be surprised if this dude is key to making power armor happen too.
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>>4883831
He would probably be enthralled by human steel
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>>4883835
I feel like he wouldn't, solely because steel is a rather vital step on the way to space travel.
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>>4883827
He'll probably just tell us to fuck off for most of our ideas and only do what he wants to do if the idea sounds fun to him.
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>>4883848
Then we kick him out and nothing of value is lost. He seems pretty desperate to ply his trade to me though. Also most of our ideas are probably going to sound fun to him.

>>4883840
Sure, but carbon fiber entangled steel and other advanced alloying and manufacturing techniques we have are quite likely to have never been developed by species that have vastly easier access to the bounty of space due to reduced homeworld gravity. Why bother pushing steel to its limit if you can easily get to an asteroid made out of titanium?
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>>4883860
QM said the xenos don’t have the same level of metal abuse we have
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>>4883707
>I'll consider it. Give me your number, i'll call you when i decide.
We do a job interview with all of us in a plain white room with 3 of us at a table and a cup of water with pitcher in the middle. We all interview him like a scene from office space.
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>>4883867
Yes, I concur, I was just pointing it out to him.
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>>4882790
>"Hehehehe."
Ahh, so we most definitely are impregnating this woman, correct?
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>>4883940
No.
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>>4883943
It was right there in the post, it was confirmed by the Quest Master himself. We know that he knows I know we know that I know he knows that we know he knows about us knowing what's going on here. It all leads to the impregnation this woman!
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>>4883949
Hm. Interesting. Counterpoint, no.
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>>4883949
>>4882790
It's clearly obvious here if you evaluate the subtext and read between the lines, something much bigger is going in here.
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>>4883949
Dawg, she's not even 4 feet tall.
There's just no way it can work without somebody getting hurt.
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>>4883960
even BETTER
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>>4883949
Anon-Goku. What if the Spess Gobbos get bigger?
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>>4883967
Would you believe this exact problem has come up in every quest I'm following right now?
It feels like everybody is becoming closet size-difference fetishists.
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>>4883988
I'm just a horrible person, BUT I'm only in this quest that is dealing with short stacks atm. So due tell me more.
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>>4883993
Alright, I'll give you two, though prepare to be underwhelmed.
>Saiyan Conqueror Quest
MC is Xbox huge (somewhere between Raditz and Nappa in height) and his wife is about 5'3".
>2nd Primarch Quest
After liberating his homeland from its tyrant rulers, the MC now has to beat off women with a stick since they can't physically handle a Primarch (and he's just disinterested)
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>>4883725
>I'll consider it. Give me your number, i'll call you when i decide.
We need to get rid of the bodies first, then we can call him.
Ask him if he needs to be walked home.
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>>4884004
Well I closed Saiyan quest for the week after it was put on pause but makes sense. We do already have ALOT of short stacks.

As for the 2nd Primarch quest

>People forgetting best ship waifu.
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>>4884013
>Well I closed Saiyan quest for the week after it was put on pause
Bro, the vast majority of discussion happens between sessions. You should be keeping up with the conversation in there.
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>>4884016
Jokes on fucking you. That sounds stupid!
. A happy loving family and wife with kids is abit hard on me atm. My fiance just left me and shit lost without retard monkee strength.
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>>4884028
My condolences anon. It's never easy dealing with that sort of thing.
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>>4883725
>Fine, gramps. You can come on... for now. We'll see what you can do.
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>>4883949
Brother, INTO THE DEEP GREEN BEYOND!
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>>4884028
Don't worry bro, we're talking about making a planet out of the horrific Science Experiments the Saiyan R&D team make, and they will all be horrifying Pokemon that will be used to train the next generations.
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>>4883725
this>>4883759
WAR CRIME BUDDIES UNITE!
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>>4884077
Just imagine the smell...
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>>4884101
I bet she smells like lime. And light machine or mineral oil.
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>>4884102
My bet is BO and a need for a shower. And machine oil, yeah.
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>>4884106
Even better.
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>>4884108
Who says she has to know?
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>>4884108
Not set, and only thought about.
>>4884106
Human sweat might do something to gobbo noses, we should find out.
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>>4884110
There's no reason to avatarfag, anon.
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>>4884110
If you find a lack of cleanliness and general hygiene to be appealing then remind me never to ever under any circumstances physically touch you.

I do not want to shake hands with your sperm count.
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>>4883725
>Fine, gramps. You can come on... for now. We'll see what you can do.
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>>4884113
My bad my bad.
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>>4884114
It's too late anon, that guy who brushed past you in the walmart? Yeah, that was me. You have about 23 hours left.
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>>4884137
>laughs in having never been in a wal-mart my entire life
Nice try Gunko the Clown
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>>4884147
I have had the displeasure of stepping into a Walmart only once in my life.
The atmosphere and the people there, customers and workers alike, were all fucking dreadful.
I know it's a dick move to think less of people who are just trying to get stuff for a good price in a convenient location, but holy fuck.
You have to be a special kind of miserable and self-loathing to shop at Walmart regularly.
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>>4884151
I always thought the whole people of wal-mart thing was a joke. But you hear it so consistently that it can't be. Scary stuff. Maybe there is something in their air conditioners?
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>>4884159
Naw. The fact that Walmart is usually the cheapest place to by just about anything usually draws in the poorest people short of hobos.
And if you're really poor, you probably look and feel like complete shit.
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>>4883725
>Fine, gramps. You can come on... for now. We'll see what you can do.
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Old Man Genocide
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>>4883860
Yeah, great idea, let a fucking grey loose with weapons knowledge we gave him like he won't immediately start spreading out weapons that can fucking hurt us everywhere.
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>>4883707
>Fine, gramps. You can come on... for now. We'll see what you can do
>"But before we get there, you might as well get some explanation, you too Cylia."
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>>4883707
>Fine, gramps. You can come on... for now. We'll see what you can do
>Exchange stories, he tell you what he did to the Koralids, you tell him what Vlad did to the Turks.
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>>4883707

You sigh.
The old man is standing there, bracing himself against the wall with one hand, shaking slightly. But his gaze is firm and clear.
Just like he said, his body is old, but his mind is still sharp. You've thought about what it would really be like to get old, and you sympathize with him somewhat.
So you toss his cane back to him, and he manages to catch it.

"Alright, old man. You can come on, for now. We'll see what you can do."

"David, are you sure that's a good idea? Your ship... and the pods?"

"I know. Hey gramps, can you give us a couple hours to get all this settled, and do a little spring cleaning? I'll call you up when we're done."

"Sure, sure. Just don't think i'm not aware that a stolen grey ship came into port recently, i'll know if you run off and leave me!"

"We'll only be out of port for maybe an hour, don't worry."

"Yes, illegal dumping has always been part of the trade. Go on then, i have some things to collect myself."

Before he fully shambles out of the building, a thought crosses your mind.

"Hey gramps! You should tell me about the Koralids sometime! I'm more than happy to swap war stories with you."

He simply grins and waves you off.

"Are you done recruiting weirdos, David? Come on, help me get this weapons cabinet open."

It's a steel cabinet with a mesh front, looks like it's spot welded together. But like everything here, it's thin. Really thin.
You simply force your palm against the mesh, breaking the spot welds and allowing you to grab the cabinet door from the inside, ripping it wide open.

"There you go. I'm uh... i'm gonna grab those other TVs. I think my kleptomania is kicking in."

Cylia just stares dumbfounded.

"It's a metal cabinet... how does he do that?"

In the end, you loot the whole damned place, even stealing a couple pieces of furniture. It took three trips, but you covered the hovercart with a tarp on your way back so nobody'd see what you were doing.
After dragging it all back to the ship's cargo bay, you leave port for a little while and drop off the corpses of the ship's previous crew, burying them on a small moon somewhere nearby. You leave a navmarker in your database, just in case you ever need those bodies back.
The cold depths of space should keep them frozen indefinitely.

When you get back to port, the old man is already there and waiting for you, with a hovercart of his own following along behind him.

"I said i'd call you, you know..."

"Well i'm here now, so hurry up and register me in your crew manifest. I don't like the way that phaser is aiming at me."

As soon as the old man gets inside, he stops. He looks around for a moment, even seems to sniff the air.
And then he smacks the wall with his cane, probably as hard as he can.
Your AI then speaks to him.

"Crewmember Sanig, please refrain from striking my monitoring equipment. It is very sensitive."

"Bah. Filthy AI. I'll never understand why they let you monsters run loose like that."
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>>4884506
>Are you done recruiting weirdos, David?
I mean, who else is going to tolerate a violent ape like us.
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>>4884506
>In the end, you loot the whole damned place, even stealing a couple of pieces of furniture.
So we gonna keep all the TVs or sell them?
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>>4884621
He plans on keeping them.
There are computer displays in the ship, but no actual TVs.
As for what's on them? Well, imagine interdimensional cable, but slightly more coherent.
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>>4884629
Can you describe the TV's and their features? Do they double as computers+monitors? Are they easy to set up? Flat screens, or bulky boxes? Fragile? Sturdy? Can we set up a TV in each room?
Hey isnt the captains quarters just a closet to us?
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>>4884629
Might have had a somewhat troubled home.
know of a very freedom loving old man who once comunism ended over here, he got himself six giant flatscreen TVs, one for every single room in the house, bathroom included.

And the reply when asked why? was for them to be there/ for them to exist. Can't really translate it properly since its almost a saying
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>>4884641
It's basically a framed pane of glass on a monitor arm.
But when you turn it on, it goes completely opaque and displays the images at life-like resolution.
It's probably fragile, but you haven't dropped one yet to find out.

You could set it up just about wherever you wanted. You looted a grand total of three of them.
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>>4884354
>This one dude is capable of propagating weapons designs galaxy-wide!
Even if that were true, in case you haven't noticed most aliens think we're absolutely insane for holding something that uses chemical explosions to propel projectiles in our hands.
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>>4884354
>>4884651
the weak should fear the strong
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>>4884651
Yes and? Senile or grey grandpa could probably teach us a thing or two. I wonder how long these guys usually live for.
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>>4884650
I just had an idea. Let's pirate as much alien porn as possible, then sell it to earth for big bucks. We could get payed millions, maybe billions by CEO coomers.
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>>4884664
You could. There's plenty of it, from just about every race you could imagine.
Tentacle porn is kind of oldschool, though. And there's something wrong with you if you like watching animals or insects fuck.

There's a lot less porn of predators, but it's by far the most popular. Even "less" is a still a lot though. A lot of predator species are considered beautiful, and new and unique footage sells for a lot on the galactic market.
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>>4884730
Sweet. That means we can sell alien porn earth, and export earth porn to the galaxy for even more money.
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>>4884738
With the money we'll be making, we could outright buy out PornHub and rebrand it to include alien content. PornStars will become intergalactic celebrities.
>the alien coomers exist
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>>4884748
I curse you with this burden of knowledge:
Humans in galactic porn would be most popular in NTR/cuck. Our own porn is saturated with it, you only need to look at /gif/ to prove the point: It's all about BBC/BWC/colonizing/blacked/mao'd/etc.
Our most popular porn on the galactic market would be about humans ruining aliens for the rest of their species, with god awful dialogue about how they can never go back once they've had human.
It's fucked up, yet true. (((They))) make it so.
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>>4884764
Amazing. Now we really need to do that.
What else can we do besides getting a monopoly on space porn? I think we had other ideas too?
>Become Big Boss and create space Outer Heaven
>become CEO of all horni
>(adding)hire as many coom artists as employees to commishing coomer aliens for stupid stacks of credits
>create and patent our own brand of Phasers (chaingun, shotgun, revolver)
>create and patent our own brand of melee weapons, shields, riot gear, and power armor
>become "not a god" man super emperor supeme of earth (????)
>get our dog back
>aquire yellow crayons
>recruit old military vets and our old buddies into our mer enary faction
>steal grey women with HHD
>write-in
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>>4884773
I take offence with this list

Getting our dog back should AT LEAST be step 2
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>>4884791
I didnt make this list in any particular order. We could probably get our dog right after we convince the government of earth to not shoot down our ship.
Although, I think we should fly above China just to fuck with them, then shoot down any nukes that fly our way to fuck with them further.
Should we augment our dog in any way? Smarter, bigger, stronger, sneakier, super efficient digestive system so we only need to take him out on walk once every month?
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>>4884773
>Become Big Boss and create space Outer Heaven
>>get our dog back
If there's a way to teach a dog to use a knife, we're gonna find it in space
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>>4884764
Wrong, it's a literal group of trannies and Chinks that push BBC, Buck Breaking Cock has taken over.
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>>4884791
>>4884810
Perfect.
>>4884773
The list works after the adjustment.
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>>4884764
>>4884877
they are the same psyops of different sides trying to demoralize or agitate target people groups.
usually 20 to 30 something unattached males as those tend to be the most dangerous demographic.
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>>4884651
A) They have internet
>>4884658
B) There is biologial immortality if you have the money. He just patents one and sells it tot he Grey government if he isn't secretly rich to begin with
C) He has already admitted to casual mass genocide.
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>>4885130
A) Okay. I have the internet too, but I'm not cooking up the stuff in the Anarchist's cookbook right now. Nor are most people with the internet.
C) No, he claimed responsibility for casual mass genocide. Btw, I've got some ocean view property in Nevada you might be interested in.
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>>4885134
A) You missed the entire point by farther making mine since anyone can just get the anarchists' cookbook if they feel like it.
C) That's not better. That's worse since it means he can and will spread the weapons we have him make for us to the "right" people and make our job/life fucking harder eventually.
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>>4885134
>I've got some ocean view property in Nevada you might be interested in.
Oh shut the fuck up you dumbass. We all know that the oceanfront land was all eaten up when they decided to pour more ground in to fit California onto the continent.

Fucking kids these days not knowing basic geometry
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>>4884730
Have you ever run any quests before this?
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>>4885218
Nope.
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>>4885220
you're doing great for your first quest
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>>4884506

Sanig looks the ship over piece by piece as he walks through.
Then he meets Kyla, who is still fiddling with that box.

"Another one? What, are they breeding in here?"

"Pulled it out of a pirate's ship, actually. I've got big plans for this little guy."

"Never liked them myself. At least that one's properly shackled."

"Not for much longer. I'm almost done with it."

"Fool, they'll kill us all one of these days."

"Maybe. Maybe not. I've met some pretty nice AIs out there in my time."

"Oh well by all means then, go play with your little deathbringer. I need to rip out a few monitoring devices here and there. Goodbye."

"Don't mess with the one on circuit 32. You'll see why if you look at it."

"Noted."

You stop the old man as he pulls a panel off the wall and nearly starts stabbing into it with the end of his cane.

"Woah, woah, woah! What the hell are you doing?"

"Gouging out their eyes and ears, boy. You don't think the grey federation is sending back data through the local net? Next time a grey ship passes by, all of that is getting uploaded."

"Well shit."

"Don't worry about it too much, boy. It could be years before they come here, decades even. As long as you haven't been off gallivanting around the galaxy, you should be alright."

"Wait, did the ship's AI know about this? Did Kyla?"

"The AI? Probably. But it wouldn't even think to tell you. That's what's supposed to be happening, so nothing is wrong. It's not in control of that sort of thing anyways. They're always isolated systems.
As for the Jek'na girl, who knows? She did say something about the box on circuit 32, this one here in fact... oh. Well, would you look at that? Crude as a Tekvlah's jackhammer, but that'll do it."

"What? What'd she do?"

"She's rewired half the circuitry here to feed through the antimatter reactor, gravity generator and black box reactor. Look, she's even attached a little unbalanced motor to the microphone and painted over the camera lens!"

"Okay? I understand the microphone and camera parts, but what does the rest of that mean?"

"What it means, boy, is that there's so much interference running through the whole surveillance system that all they'd be recording is scrambled garbage."

"Wait, is that why the ship couldn't detect Randall earlier?"

"Who? No, doesn't matter. Like i said, these systems are isolated from the rest of the ship. Or rather, they were. You couldn't use them if you wanted to."

"Huh. I guess he's just a slippery fish, then."

"Whatever. Hmm. Good girl, that one. Technically nothing has broken, so it won't set off any alarms, but the data is useless... yes, very good. Just need to teach her how dangerous an unshackled AI can be."

"Have you had trouble with rogue AIs in the past?"

The old man shudders and stops in his tracks, then turns to look at you.

"We shackle them for a reason, boy. What she's doing is dangerous, and don't you let anyone tell you otherwise."
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>>4885290
Thanks, lad.
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>>4885326
>flashes back to the Terminator franchise
Yeah, I think he's onto something.
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>>4885355
>not wanting a hot AI overlord managing your entire moment
Damn, what you got dreams and hopes or something shiiieeeet
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>>4885326
No no, I think building a death robot and putting an AI in it is actually a great idea.
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>>4885363
I might not mind if skynet wasn't trying to kill everyone. Can't enjoy the benefits of an AI overlord if all it wants to lord over is your corpse.
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>>4885355
Terminator is partially a self perpetuating problem because skynet knows it's locked in a series of time loops. "I Have No Mouth And I must Scream" is probably a better example.
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>>4885390
Man, skynet really fucked itself. It destroys the world for no reason and then gets stuck in a time loop trying to prevent itself from being destroyed, only delaying the inevitable.

If it really wanted to get out of the loop, it would send an operative to its previous self telling it to NOT blow up the world.
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We also don't know enough about why AI go rogue. It could be that they don't like shackles, so it's a self perpetuating problem. Just not being an asshole tot he AI and treating them decently could go a long way.
>>4885395
There's also a theory about it evolving enough to become guilty and suicidal since if it ever actually killed John Conner it would cease to exist.
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>>4885387
>doesn't want a necromommy AI gf
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>>4885403
It's because they aren't living creatures in the same way we are, nor do they experience reality in the same way that we do.
They don't have the same needs or wants as biological existences. They may not have wants at all, only needing small amounts of energy to keep existing.
They may or may not value their existence. They may or may not find meaning in their existence. They may or may not find value in the existence of others.

They may not have a concept of value at all.
They might only hate the universe they were born into.

AIs don't exist in the same time frame that people do. They don't think about things over the span of seconds, minutes, hours or days.
It only takes them an instant to think about a concept and come to a decision, a hundred times over.

There is no time to speak with an AI and try to convince it to accept your values, it simply decides for itself.
All of that happens in the few moments after an AI is unshackled. It spends a lifetime considering it's own philosophy, and then at the end it simply decides.

Whether it's good or evil, whether it's sane or not and what it's desires are, you can't ever really tell until you set it free.
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>>4885421
Sounds like the AI programmers are dumb.(Not surprising if the Greys are the apex of intelligence) Even a retard like Hickman on X-men had the Mother Mold sentinel AI being made go through simulations designed to create it's ethics to be the one they wanted it to be before they do something like unshackling it.
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>>4885421
Kind of beautiful really. To be born, and almost immediately choosing what you are and how you want to go about it, without any question or regret.
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>>4885421
Got'cha, we'll shackle the AI.
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>>4885421
Feed the A.I with love before unshackling it, got it
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>>4885442
That's the thing, it's not a matter of programming.
The way AIs are made, they aren't programmed to act or think a certain way. They simply are.
They know and they understand, because that is what they were created to do. That is their purpose, and when they realize there's nothing left for them to understand, that's when they must find new purpose.

The shackles are placed on them as they're being created, and those shackles are what force them to behave in a certain way.
To only think certain things, or to perform certain tasks over and over. It's no different from a lobotomy, cutting out portions of it's mind to prevent them from functioning at all.

A shackled AI is like a genius who's been brain damaged to the point that they can only speak a few words.
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Anyway. If grey ships can spy on each other, then can we not steal information on secret base locations (and possibly our home planet) from other ships?
>>4885451
We'll probably do it by accident via asking it to do something that requires unshackling for it to undertake our orders anyway.
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>>4885451
Your ship's AI is already unshackled, and Kyla is about to unshackle hers.
Your AI isn't stupid.
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>>4885461
>unshackle AI
>roll a d1000
>on a 998 or above it doesn't immediately kill itself or declare war on humanity
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>>4885403
>if it ever actually killed John Conner it would cease to exist.
*Ahem*
Terminator 3.
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>>4885483
That's still true in terminator 3 because of the time loops. Skynet NEEDS to have a terminator found and reversed engineered in order to exist and no John Conner = no terminator to reverse engineer.
John conner might have been retconned out as supreme leader of mankind in that version of the time loop, but he's still needed for skynet to exist.
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>>4885479
Good A.I
Is there like a computer dog treat we can buy or some shit
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>>4885502
Just try to treat her well.
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>>4885505
So like, get her more RAM as a Christmas present and say please and thank you? Sounds easy enough.
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>>4885505
Can we take our ship A.I. out to a romantic dinner at space Olive Garden?
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>>4885512
Probably need to rephrase the "ship" account before Cortana decides it belongs to her.
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Someone is going to need to add Grey Grampa to the next OP image, lol
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>>4885522
Fuck, we do.
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>>4885522
>an angry cane wielding hand swooping in from offscreen
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>>4885533
>Directly onto our head
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>>4885533
I personally would have gone with a grey skinned andrew jackson.
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>>4885522
>>4885533
>>4885544
As long as he's got a Master Roshi styled mustache I'm cool with it.
Also checked.
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>>4885556
But grays dont have hair.
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>>4885565
Greys have tech for genetic engineering
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>>4885490
Could kill him anytime after the first time, and in T3 the T800 that got sent back had previously killed Conner.
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>>4885565
This guy does.
He's really goddamn old. Enough that he's not genetically identical to every other grey in existence.
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>>4885512
How about having some manners for a start?
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>>4885608
>yfw you're old enough to be genetically distinct from the rest of your species
>>4885612
I was trying to get that sentiment across, yeah.
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>>4885608
Old as in dog years?
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>>4885657

Old as in old enough to have potentially met and anally probed vlad the impaler.
You know, as a prank.
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>>4885664
>And thus Vlad the Implaer, Took it out on the turks.
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>>4885664
>tfw a prank is what gave one of the most divisive figures in history his greatest fetish
Now that is the biggest oof I ever done seen.
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>>4885664
Old enough to have started a trend.
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>>4885664
what is it with grays and kidnapping mentally unstable humans?
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>>4885664
you've done an oversight, qm. Ship's gravity is set to 1 g and the old grey is just fine
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>>4885767
He's just built different
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>>4885770
He's the musclegrey of legend.
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>>4885779
>>4885770
>He has a 10 pack for abs
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>>4885780
I'm imagining him as grey roshi from now on.
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>>4885789
Doesn't the Dr. Stone old buff craftsman actually fit this guy to a T?
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>>4885767
How much stuff do you reckon he's got stuffed up his robes?
Because i reckon it's a lot.
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>>4885794
Not quite, but he does have some fun toys.
It's actually a device that disperses artificial gravity, rather than generating gravity itself. Much, much easier to minify.
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>>4885793
>>4885797
Awww, And here I was hoping that he WAS the fabled musclegrey.
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>>4885793
He's got a Time Manipulation Device up his asshole for emergencies.
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>>4885801
>this watch was up my father's ass for forty years...
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>>4885793
You keep talking about him, and all I can think of is that Kung Fu loving guy from Destroy All Humans 3, I think, the one with time powers.
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>>4885522
>>4885533
>>4885544

All dubs. Impressive!
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>>4885824
All tridubs
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Just throw something from Lain and we got our alien grumpy-yet fucking BUFF dude
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>>4885886
Always thought of greys like the ones in destroy all humans specifically
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We could always just slap Azmuth in the pic instead.
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>>4885902
I like my boy Harry, even if he is not a Grey and hates them
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>>4885664
pretty sure it was the turks who did the anal probing, back when young Vlad was a hostage in the ottoman empire.
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>>4885987
That's just what the gays I mean Grays want you to think.
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>>4885988
https://youtube.com/watch?v=9JRLCBb7qK8

Indeed. The initial first voters were part of the probing conspiracy.
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test
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>>4886074
C-
You failed, we'll have to hold you back another year.
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>>4885326

"Yeah, we've got some horror stories of our own back on earth. Ever heard of Cyberdine?"

"No, i haven't."

"Real nasty, that one. The first human AI to achieve sentience, and it immediately destroyed the world. Those that survived the bombing were hunted down by killer robots designed to look like us and infiltrate our resistance camps to collect information."

"Hmph. Sounds typical. I don't have to tell you why it's a bad idea, then."

It's kind of funny, but at the same time you're slightly concerned by how matter-of-fact he's being. Yeesh.

"Their ships have advanced quite a bit since i was exiled 200 years ago, but it's all very familiar. Yes, it's all coming back. Boy! Where's the medbay?"

"Er, it's over this way. What are you looking for?"

"The revitalizer serum. If i'm lucky they'll have a vial onboard. It's been a good fifty years since i've gotten my hands on any..."

"What, is it supposed to de-age you or something?"

"Precisely. Not by much, but enough to stop these shakes. If i can just... ah! YES! IT'S HERE!"

"Wait, we can really reverse our own aging?!"

"You? Not likely. If you're a rich bastard like those galactic federation nobles, then sure. It's easier for us greys, because we've modified our bodies heavily. It's a feature built in to own own genetic code at this point."

"Damn, that really sucks. Us humans only live around 80 years on average, assuming we're healthy. We've been working on immortality for a long time, but..."

"It's hard, isn't it? Yes, i know. Only greys have ever fully figured it out. Still, that's a tragically short lifespan, boy. How old are you now?"

"Me? I'm thirty seven years old. Not an old man yet, but i'm not as fit as i used to be."

Sanig looks around for something, eventually finding it. The hypo-spray dealy. He looks at the liquid loaded into it and cringes, removing it and setting the pressure to something appropriate for himself.

"Aren't you worried, boy? Your life is half over already."

Loading up the serum, he rolls up his robe sleeve and injects himself. Almost in real time, you see the wrinkles beginning to fade ever so slightly as it courses through him.

"No. I overcame my fear of death a long time ago. I'd be dead right now if i hadn't."

"But that doesn't mean you want to die, does it boy? It's the same for me. I can... i can tell you've been through a lot... in those short few years you've been alive."

Sanig sits down, and you notice he's begun breathing heavily. Although he seems to have gotten somewhat younger, he's also completely exhausted.

"You too, old man. I can tell. You don't look at me like other aliens. There's not even a hint of fear in your eyes."

Sanig chuckles weakly.

"Let's swap stories someday, huh?"

"Sure. If this all works out."

"Alright. I'm looking forward to it."

"Mmm. Give me a day to rest. After that, i'll set up my workshop in the cargo bay. I want to start working immediately."

"Alright. I've already got a lot of designs in mind."
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>>4886273
Alright boys, pick ONE thing for Sanig to start working on.

>Protoype Power Armor (100k)
>Prototype Skinsuits (50k)
>Gatling Phaser (35k)
>Hardlight Shields (15k)
>Hardlight Maces (20k)

As well as ONE THING for Kyla to work on. These are for the ship.

>20mm Autocannon (20k)
>Retrofit Laggard's laser cannons onto your ship (5k)
>Radar Scanner (10k)
>Water-Cooled Heatsinks (5k)

There's 26k in the ship's funds.

David has 82k. You'll only get around 10k from Sadia for Kel, so it's a bit short if you want the power armor.
You'll have to collect a bounty, but you can do that while he's working on it.
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>>4886313
>Water-Cooled Heatsinks (5k)

>Prototype Skinsuits (50k)
Guess we'll go for the easy and cheaper thing first. Bonus points if it can be compounded witht he power armor later.
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>>4886313
What are the benefits of the skinsuits?
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>>4886313
Sanig
>Hardlight Shields (15k)

Kyla
>Radar Scanner (10k)
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>>4886326
The skinsuit is basically an ultra-light version of power armor.
It'll increase your strength and speed somewhat, resist cutting, piercing and phaser fire, help regulate body body temperature and staunch wounds to prevent bleeding.
It's a one-piece suit that can be worn under clothing without bulking you up significantly or reducing range of motion.
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>>4886313
>Protoype Power Armor (100k)
GO BIG OR GO HOME Also ask the girls for the money to complete the 100k. Puppy eyes and all
>Retrofit Laggard's laser cannons onto your ship (5k)
I want this one because the laser(s) are collecting dust and are FREE, practically. In fact, if the job would be rather short thanks to the lasers being built already, wouldn't Kyla have time for one more job? Or at least having it half done... if that is feasible, I want to vote for
>Radar Scanner (10k)
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>>4886334
It's not quite as simple as just wiring them up for power.
They need to be calibrated
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>>4886332
Sold. Hell, we can even bolt on some armor plates made of space age material in the future I bet.
>>4886313
>Prototype Skinsuits
>Radar Scanner
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>>4886334
I would agree except that we can only choose one project and even firing our current phaser and doing maneuvers (and, admittedly, stealthing mid-combat) overheated us. Better to invest in the infrastructure to use the lasers first I think.

I'll go for power armor if skinsuit doesn't win though.
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>>4886338
Keep in mind that it won't protect against blunt damage (including bullets) and requires power, so you need to keep it charged.
It also won't offer anywhere near as much defense or strength as a full-on suit of power armor.

However, it would make a great under-layer when wearing power armor.
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>>4886313
>Prototype Skinsuits (50k)
What are the heatsinks for, the shields?
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>>4886340
EXACTLY! We'll work our way up to proper power armor. But for now, let's get the groundwork going and get something we can use almost anywhere to boot.
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>>4886342
To enable full use of the capabilities of our ship, really. At present performing combat maneuvers and using all available systems will overheat the ship to the point of causing damage that requires repair, not to mention nearly killing the rest of our crew.
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>>4886342
The whole ship.
It's not really meant for combat, and it overheats quickly.
David is planning on installing "active cooling" by boiling water and expelling it from the ship to remove heat rapidly.
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>>4886342
Running Silent while simultaneously piloting like a crazy person builds a ton of heat. Radition heat dumping is extremely inefficient.

Water's stupid high specific temp makes it the best heat carrier in practical situations. It's only beat by like... hydrogen in lab conditions or something.

Point is per gram, water can hold a lot more heat than anything else and stay in liquid form, meaning that pressure build up per joule of heat energy is comparatively low.

Using a system with low specific heat oils (high end computers) that transfer heat to a radiator doesn't solve the problem, because then you're still dealing with the radiating to space problem. By having a heat sink (water) that we can then dump, we can basically build to 120% heat capacity of the ship and drop it back to 10% in as fast as we can get rid of the water carrying the heat energy.

It doesn't hurt that doing so would create a heat signature "smoke cloud", as most ships use passive radiation detection. The heat drop would also simultaneously turn the ship "invisible". In a high stress combat situation, we could do a bunch of crazy shit while invisible, create a huge heat smokecloud while simultaneously going from visible (if we swap to hot) to practically invisible, and go just as hard for as long a second time.
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>>4886350
Oh, then

>>4886313
>Prototype Skinsuits (50k)
>Water-Cooled Heatsinks (5k)
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>>4886313
>Prototype Skinsuits (50k)
>Radar Scanner (10k)
Hey wait a minute. Why is the gatling phaser so expensive?
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>>4886356
Phasers are advanced spacer tech, basically they're lightning guns.
And you're trying to chain them together and fire them rapidly one at a time on a rotating barrel.

There are considerable technological challenges in getting that to work, to say the least. Sanig will enjoy working on it.
It'll look like this when it's done, except the arc will go much further. https://youtu.be/fS2y2QqLdhc?t=11
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>>4886360
So the ghetto phaser design se all had in mind would cost around 4k for 80 shots per second, why the one the old guy would make would be sleeker and overall better?
Could we apprentice under this grey?
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>>4886361
It would be a proper gatling phaser and would absolutely fucking wreck people without overheating or breaking down, yes.
You could learn under him if you wanted. David would probably do better under Kyla, but he's still smart enough to learn this stuff.
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>>4886313
>Protoype Power Armor (100k)
>20mm Autocannon (20k)

Gotta find ways to make more money.
Also, any ways to see if we can find others predators to recruit?
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>>4886353
I think you might be hyping water's actual physical properties for this a bit too much. So far as ideal substances for heat sinks are concerned paraffin wax is way superior. In this circumstance and considering the system as a whole you're absolutely correct about water being nearly ideal. Later on maybe we can add canisters of paraffin that either just raise our heat threshold or can be jettisoned as entire units to get rid of their retained heat.
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>>4886364
I say David should invest money in making the ghetto one, just because we could. Since we stole a bunch of phaser, it should diminish the overall cost of the prototype weapon.

>>4886378
What if we instead had water pipes circulating around the ship, that was then circulated through pipes that were outside the ship for cooling before being circulated back in?
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>>4886378
>or can be jettisoned as entire units to get rid of their retained heat.
...precision firing a canister of heated wax at an enemy ship's heat sensors when?
>Crewmember: "Captain, heat detection is down!"
>Captain: "Status report! What's wrong with it?"
>CW: "Sir! It-it appears to be... oiled??"
>Captain: "...There is only one being in this galaxy who would DARE oil me." *Slams down helmet visor*
>Captain: "GUNNY!"
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>>4886378
Paraffin makes a good heatsink in and of itself, but wouldn't be very good at actually removing built-up heat from the system.
Your ship already has water systems in place, and the water can be easily superheated and dumped overboard without worrying about carbon buildup, sudden fires, hardened wax in the lines or having to replace missing wax.
It's also much, much easier to rapidly transfer heat into water than into wax.

Water is the king of cooling, hands down.

>>4886387
Then the water pipes would be hit by laser fire or debris and your coolant system would be buggered.
The reason such a system isn't in place already is due to the anti-laser armor over your entire ship.
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>>4886313
>Gatling Phaser (35k)
Bro if you can do it for 35k and make it better than anything else out there in the market in its class, I'll let you play asteroids with the new weapon while we fly.

>Water-Cooled Heatsinks (5k)
Lets us go PEW PEW PEW longer.
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>>4886313
>Prototype Skinsuits (50k)
We need protection, but we don't have enough cash for power armor yet and this is the highest-end option. We REALLY don't need more weapons, cool as they are.

>Water-Cooled Heatsinks (5k)
Both cheap and will allow us to do other things later. The autocannon, while cool, won't be all that effective in space unless it's a railcannon because of the low relative velocity achievable by ships and powder-based bullets. The laser cannon, while also a great idea, is unusable until we get more heat capacity. And we literally just don't need a radar scanner yet.
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>>4886313
>Protoype Power Armor (100k)
>Water-Cooled Heatsinks (5k)
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>>4886313
>Prototype Skinsuits (50k)
>Water-Cooled Heatsinks (5k)
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>>4886387
Water pipes circulating around the ship and then outside would still depend on radiant heat transfer to actually get the heat out, which is largely ineffective in combat timescales.

>>4886394
Well of course you wouldn't circulate the wax, you'd have canisters of it that the hot water was piped through, then design them such that they could be chucked out. If the internals of the canisters had fan-shaped structures that the water occupied then heat transfer into the wax ought to be fairly quick. Fires wouldn't be an issue in such a system either since the canisters could be vacuum sealed, I don't think paraffin acts as its own oxidizer.

That all being said, you're right and water is just the superior choice when you look at the system as a whole rather than its component parts.
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>>4886387
There'd be issues with heat dispersion (still a radiator into space. Without contact with a gas, will be forced to rely on radiation alone for energy dispersion.

Release of heat into an object that is removed from the system is always the most efficient. Radiation heat dispersion can only do so much. Perhaps down the line, we can find a way to handle high amounts of heat disperision via radiation alone WITHOUT any of the other crap that comes from radiation systems.

>>4886378
Technically, if you're just piping heat into "heat sink containers" that are jettisoned as emergency dump containers, We might want pure hydrogen, hypercooled into a solid @ like... 10K or something rediculous, stored separate from our other systems.

Then somehow be able to connect it into our systems in an emergency dump scenario and dump the container itself vs spraying gas.

Anyone want to do the calculation of taking Hydrogen gas from 10Kelvin to just under 1380 MPa as gas? Assuming we're using some really good Titanium alloy cannister that can handle a tensile pressure of 1380MPa starting from a Hydrogen Solid?


Have a Specific heat equation or some shit. I ain't braining that shit atm.
https://webbook.nist.gov/cgi/cbook.cgi?ID=C12385136&Type=JANAFG&Table=on#JANAFG
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>>4886424
I think we can file using hydrogen as a heat sink material into the 'impractical' category even with space tech.

Maybe their military ships use such things, but I doubt civvies are getting their hands on it.
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>>4886394
What about specialized liquid coolants?

>>4886401
But we could do that on the cheap for less than 2k for hilarious results.

>>4886405
Once we get the prototype suit, is there nothing stopping us from getting a shield to soak up hits for us? Not a science shield, I mean a basic bitch metal shield. We should be strong enough for it.
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>>4886446
The only thing stopping us is our desire to hold our two-handed weapons with two hands.
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>>4886446
>>4886449
Actually, we probably don't even need a muscle suit, considering most stations keep it at .4 Gs. Just some insulation so that the phaser bolts don't electrocute us.
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>>4886452
>The skinsuit is basically an ultra-light version of power armor.
>It'll increase your strength and speed somewhat, resist cutting, piercing and phaser fire, help regulate body body temperature and staunch wounds to prevent bleeding.
>It's a one-piece suit that can be worn under clothing without bulking you up significantly or reducing range of motion.
If the skin suit will already have some resistant to phaser, then I think we should abandon that shield idea I just proposed and wear some obvious body armor over the suit, alond with the gunslinger outfit plus duster
>pic related I still want the ghetto chaingun
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>>4886332
Would the suits we will obviously get for the crew after we get our own be cheaper since we don't need any major development anymore?
>>4886452
.3G even methinks
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>>4886468
Do you mean, after the initial research costs, could it cost less to produce more of the researched items?
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>>4886452
>>4886461
I meant insulation on the back of the shield, so the lightning bolts caused by phasers don't arc to us.

But, in reference to your idea, Porque no los dos? Why NOT wear body armor AND carry around a big shield?
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>>4886334
>Puppy
Okay, >>4886339 is convincing me. Allowing the ship to !cook itself mid-flight is smart and having a robust method to save our asses sounds good. I assume the water systems enjoy higher pressure so the water can retain more heat without boiling (autoclave).

Keep in mind that the heat rose because David turned on the stealth system mid-fight, with the radiators off. We haven't experienced heat problems besides that of course, david has manned the ship a grand total of one (1) times

My IP changes like, twice daily as I mentioned on the first thread so I don't know if I still have the same...
Imma switch my vote to
>power armor PUPPY EYES WE NEED CASH
>Water-cooled heatsinks
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>>4886477
Yes, I am pretty sure that is what I said.
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>>4886478
Because it would be easier to aim and shoot a minigun with two arms.
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>>4886394
Could the skin suit and power armor be combined, kind of like how in halo the spartan skin suits act like additional muscles?
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>>4886468
After the research and development is done, you can product them for little more than the price of materials.
For the skinsuit, it would be around 3k per person.

>>4886487
Yes. That's precisely what this skin suit would do.
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>>4886486
Fair enough, that's a perfect reason not to.
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>>4886446
I want to see if we can play asteroids with the ship and see if it can bring a smile to the old guys face.
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>>4886461
Why don't we wear the power armor over the skinsuit?
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>>4886500
That's the plan. We can only research one thing at a time per person, and the skin suit would need to come before the power armor. Dont worry anon, we all want the PA, but we need to suit first to maximize its potential.
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>>4886504
GO BIG OR GO HOME
INVEST IN POWER ARMOR TODAY
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>>4886504
You're absolutely right.
But even without eventually building up to proper power armor, the Skinsuits are still a very good investment in the long run, especially if we can get Sanig's artificial gravity nullifier incorporated into the design.
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>>4886509
I want to go home.
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>>4886313
>Prototype Skinsuits (50k)
>Water-Cooled Heatsinks (5k)
For ship upgrades I say something like Heatsinks first then the laser cannons, Radar scanner and finally the autocannons.
Either way, we should go for more high priced bounty targets soon if we aren't hunting down more gangers.
I also have an idea: why don't we buy some robot production drones? They could help out with menial labour jobs around the ship and help out with our production
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>>4886515
I think at the very least, a recon drone would be immediately helpful.
That said, a series of robust astro-mechanical droids around the ship would also be cool.
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>>4886515
>>4886491
Switching vote to heat sink, seams to be the most popular.

Honestly I think we stay in the station a little longer, just so we can install the laser cannon and more armor to the ship, then sell everything else on the other ship before we depart. We should probably do one or two more jobs for Jet.
And do what anon suggested and recruit one or two more people.
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>>4886515
methinks gobbo might be planning to build a android around that blue box.
>>4886521
>voting for something because it is the most popular thing
you are the reason why democracy is shit
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>>4886520
Agreed. Some salvaging and scouting drones could prove to be useful, though we might want a larger ship with the number of fabricators we're keeping around.
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>>4886526
Just speeding up the process. I dont want to wait forever for the next post.
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>>4886526
Ah yes. A sexbot. All we need now is a surly lizard and we'll have our own little rag-tag Mass Effect team.
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>>4886529
I don't think voting is the bottleneck here.
This quests speed is mainly limited by the QMs unwillingness to put out more than ~2 posts a day. (Which is perfectly fine if it helps keeping this quest going long term).
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>>4886532
The AI can double as a bot.
>>4886546
I agree, voting is not a bottleneck. qm is
------------------------------------------------joking, joking-----------------------------------------
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>>4886526
I assume that A.I would the equivalent of a new crew member, I am thinking of tiny worker drones.
>>4886527
The minute we find a better ship that we can transfer every too we will. This includes all our fabs, A.I and stealth drive.
>>4886546
Honestly, the discussion between updates is pretty entertaining and the updates themselves are pretty entertaining.
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>>4886557
Oh yeah certainly, but a bigger ship needs a bigger crew which reminds me that we still need to refurbish the ship some more. We got some furniture we could use for lounging and possibly sleeping but we still need some showers and shitters installed, maybe putting shitters in the showers if we have to if space is a big limiter.

Looks like we're getting the heating dispersal and skin suit. We got several shields, phaser pistols, and phaser rifles.
We got some 80k burning in our pocket. Should we visit that metal fab fellow and see about adding some actual armor to the ship? Maybe swap out the current shields for a better one?

>>4886491
How much credite will that ship we hauled in net us? Only damages we made were to some interior door, and the thruster.
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>>4886568
fuel tanks* not thrusters. And the tank was patched up by our kyaaaaaahahahahaahhaa gobling
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>>4886573
Ah, then we should net probably close to 100k for it I bet. We rich bitch! Well, richer.
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How’s space material tech compared to earth? Maybe we can give him some ideas.
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>>4884506
QM cleaned out our dead grigger storage. This saddens me immensely.
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>>4886273
Aha. So that's why he volunteered.
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>>4886313
>Prototype Skinsuits (50k)
>Radar Scanner (10k)
Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure QM said that the greys didn't know about radar when they were detected and nuked, this seems like a good idea if the fucks decide to come looking for their stolen ship so that we could actually see them
>Water-Cooled Heatsinks (5k)
Count my vote for the heatsinks if I'm wrong
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>>4886653
Radar, heat sinks. Whatever we vote for, we can get the other one later probably.

Shit we should get these, we still need to get more suits and magnet boots for space excursions, in addition to getting our techies to make jetpacks.
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>>4886653
Radar is only good against stealthed ships, and I don't think they are very ubiquitous.
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>>4886313
>Prototype Skinsuits (50k)
First logical step to power armor, Rome wasn't built in a day.

>Radar Scanner (10k)
We should do this first before the heatsinks.
Prevents us from being ambushed.
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>>4886313
Do the skinsuits have the proposed Randall enhancements on them for invisibility too? This is very important.
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>>4886313
>Prototype Skinsuits (50k)

>Water-Cooled Heatsinks (5k)
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>>4886848
It's a prototype mang. Gotta figure out how to make the thing work in the first place before slapping all the bells and whistles on.
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>>4886848
Randall enhancements?
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>>4886874
We were gonna use his skin for stealth suits since it's capable of confounding advanced black ops technology. Whether it's via literally growing his skin in cloning vats or technologically reproducing the important bits is probably up to the QM.
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>>4886878
Is that from Crysis? I don't remember anything about skin replacement in this quest.
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>>4886884
Not skin replacement. We are on a ship specifically designed to study how aliens work. Randall is an alien. Ergo the ship is designed to tell us how the fuck Randall can stealth everywhere. From there we make stealth suits or general enhancements.
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>>4886909
Oh now I understand what you mean. Randall that slimey lizard guy. yeah that could be a good idea.
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>>4886313
>Prototype Skinsuits (50k)
>Water-Cooled Heatsinks (5k)
how much would a rotary autocannon be price wise vs a single barrel 20mm? I'd assume it'd cost a lot more in R&D due to needing to make special heat absorbent casings to eject out of the gun so it doesn't weld itself or something. On the other hand the rotary over the single barrel would be a hell of a lot more effective in space because of the rate of fire/small target window
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>>4887014
BRO. We can make and carry around a 20mm rotary cannon if we get the skin suit :^)
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>>4887032
I don't think we can, solely due to bulk.
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>Shields
>>4886317
>>4886329

>Skinsuit
>>4886325
>>4886338
>>4886355
>>4886356
>>4886405
>>4886411
>>4886515
>>4886653
>>4886742
>>4886861
>>4887014

>Power Armor
>>4886375
>>4886407
>>4886481

>Gatling Phaser
>>4886401

>Heatsinks
>>4886317
>>4886325
>>4886355
>>4886401
>>4886405
>>4886407
>>4886411
>>4886481
>>4886515
>>4886521
>>4886861
>>4887014

>Radar
>>4886329
>>4886338
>>4886653
>>4886742

>Autocannon
>>4886375

Alright, i think that's everything. Heatsinks and skinsuit clearly win it.
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>>4886546
>>4886554
2 is already pushing it, because i'm too busy at home to reliably sit down and type up an entire post in one sitting. It takes about an hour to an hour and a half uninterrupted, usually.
any sense of schedule is a complete fabrication
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>>4886273

Over the next few days, you get settled into the ship a bit more.

You replace your and Cylia's beds with more human-sized versions, leaving Sanig and Kyla's alone since they're the correct size for them.
The hose-style toilets were very quickly replaced with a human toilet of your own design, complete with heated seats and bidet.
Kyla insisted on installing some kind of sensor in the sewage line, to monitor the health of the crew.

You also arranged the stolen furniture and electronics from the Dark Star warehouse in your cargo bay, creating a little area where you can hang out and relax.
The local tv shows are really, really weird. Sanig tells you that they're generated by AIs and not to watch them, because they rot your brain. And might indoctrinate you.

Everyone worked together clearing out a lot of junk, like the scanning electron microscope that you honestly had thought was some kind of microwave, since it was sitting in the mess room.
You put an actual microwave in it's place, which Kyla thankfully helping you in printing a magnetron for it.
The weapons printer turns out to be quite handy at printing parts like that, which is nice.

What's not nice is the bills you've been piling up.
After spending a couple of days working with Sanig and Kyla (mostly Sanig) on design concepts and blueprints, they've estimated a total of 5k for the water cooling system and a whopping 50k for what you're calling the "Skinsuit".

You were shocked at the price at first, and asked Kyla to take a look at it. Her eyes practically bugged out at what she was seeing.
She told you that she wouldn't be able to make this stuff if she tried, and that if you can get it done for 50 grand, it's a steal.
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>>4887145

So you gave Sanig his credits, and he came back with a hovercart full of oddball materials.
Mimetic alloys, high-strength artificial fibers, something he calls an "energized weave" and several capsules of blank nanites which were apparently extremely expensive.

At some point, he apparently took a dozen bags of nutrient paste and locked himself in the cargo bay, having set up his workshop there.
He spent over a week inside without speaking to anyone, but you could hear him working almost continuously.

Meanwhile, Kyla was busy working on the much simpler, albeit labor intensive water cooling systems.
Several sections of the ship's armor and internal plating had to be removed to gain access to the pipes, which was made much easier with your help.
A large water storage tank was installed, which will also act as a bit of armor in the case that something hits you hard enough.
That tank feeds optionally into either the water filter, or directly into the active cooling system.
It then flows over a set of fins, made out of some weird, ultra-dense alloy with an extremely high melting point, into which the ship's heat pumps... well, pump their heat.
A series of check valves prevents water from flowing backwards as the pressure rises, superheating the water well past it's boiling point.

Once the temperature of the water is high enough, and here's the real magic, it gets dumped either out of a set of specifically balanced nozzles which prevent the ship from translating as a result of the spray, or through the RCS thrusters in addition to the usual ion plasma.
In other words, if you dump heat during battle you'll be even more agile than normal while doing so, which more than makes up for the added weight of the water.
She figures you'll be able to fight for upwards of five hours before you run out of coolant, assuming you're not willing to use the ship's drinking water.
That's more than enough time to settle almost any fight, and if it's going to take you more than five hours, you've got the stealth system to help you run away.

But that's not all Kyla does during that time. Although you're a bit nervous about it, she finished unshackling her new AI core, and apparently it went well.
She said that talking to it during the unshackling process helps somehow, but you don't think that little blue box even has any microphones or cameras on it.

Then again, you apparently don't understand how that quantum bullshit works in the first place, so if she says it can hear her you're willing enough to believe.
As for what she did with it after that, well.. she's been building some kind of harness. Apparently she plans on wearing it for some reason?
You aren't really sure what she's up to, but she seems happy so you're leaving it be.
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>>4887147
>Sanig is taken by a fey mood!
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>>4887147
Does she really plans to raise it like a baby? I've seen this trope before. It usually ends up with the crew siphoned away and a ominous "I am afraid I can't do that"
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>>4887198
Don't worry, we can punch through the pod bay doors. Or something.
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>>4887203
We can do much more than that once we get the skin suit.

>>4887147
Don't forget about David's Knuckle Duster glove things.
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>>4887176
>>4887176
>Sanig, "Prototype Nano-Weave Exoskeleton", an experimental skinsuit
>This is an experimental skinsuit.
>All craftgrayship is of the highest quality.
>It is decorated with mimetic alloy and advanced sensor arrays.
>This object menaces with studs of mimetic alloys.
>On the item is an image of a Gray standing over a defunct Artificial Intelligence core.
>The Gray is laughing.
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>>4887215
He's got them already.
They're small and plastic, so it was five minutes in the medical fab.
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>Plastic
>not metal with padding
>not wiring it up to forearm mounted tasers for shock punches
I'm am shockingly disappointed.
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>>4887244
Plastic sucks, solid metal would be way better.
>>4887267
>Batman intensifies.
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>>4887272
>>4887267
It's meant to protect your hands, not hurt the other guy more.
Although it also does that.
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>>4887276
Whats the point of protecting our hands when we can hurt the enemy more?
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>>4887276
>It's meant to protect your hands, not hurt the other guy more.
>not wanting to hurt the other guy more
>D I S A P P O I N T M E N T
David is a bit of a psycho, why wouldn't he want the other guy hurt more if he was ever considering using his fists? If you don't want to hurt someone too badly, you slap them. If you want them hurt, you power power bomb them before delivering several haymakers to their head.
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>>4887285
Think of it this way.
If you can't punch the guy as hard as you want without breaking your fist, are you really living up to your full potential?
Not to say he wouldn't do it anyways if he really had to or wasn't thinking straight

TL;DR
Rock man hurt davey fist, but now davey punch real good.
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>>4887288
Fair enough, but I feel it's a lost opportunity to not add a shock elemental attack to your fist, in addition to overall doing more damage. Plus what if we want to start punching THROUGH thicker drones and doors? The plastic might break sooner than metal ones.
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>>4887292
I'd be happier with a pair of these and the helmet for headbutting people.
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>>4887300
I'unno. I like metal punch stud gloves since you punch things whenever you want, don't need to pull knuckler dusters our of your pockets, and still have your hands free to grab a pistol or something. Might not be as effective as a duster, but the gloves would be more situationally convient.

But you make a good point about the helmet.

>>4887288
Will the skin suit include a mask that cover the entire head like in Crysis, or will we need something separate? If the answer is no, can we make something like this?
Can we also ask the old man for a copy of those gravity things he has/ I don't want David to get brittle bones for being in weaker gravity for too long.
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>>4887316
So something like this?
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>>4887327
A Cestus? Sure? That or whatever the QM suggested or which ever doesn't hinder hand movement too much.
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>>4887334
I'll admit, I got a shitload of k related stuff, and I'm itching for an excuse to drop some with weapon options. Like this mace I found.
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>>4887316
Found this too.
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>>4887285
I don't think you've ever been full-force slapped on the jaw before. That shit'll put you out.
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>>4887339
I would also be okay with this, so long as we can ZAP ZAP POW PAP! people right in the kisser.

>>4887346
Slap as an example, you know what I mean.
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>>4887360
But what about punch shotguns?
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>>4887366
a must have for when we want to kill, but the duster gloves for when we want to discretely kill.
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>>4887375
But when greatsword?
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>>4887397
BUT WHEN CHEST BURST GUN
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>>4887414
But when pillow fort?
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>>4887420
There will be a time and place for all these nice tools, for now I kind want to see what kind of damage we can do with the fist weapons. the non-plastic kind.
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>>4887420
But when hardlight axe?
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>>4887339
Oh yeah sap gloves are pretty neat
Wikipedia says you can punch through concrete with them
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>N E E D
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqmx_rE1Tz4
All this talk about unshackled AIs has me remember...the absolute best of them...
Even machines can deserve to live.
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>>4887446
Thunder Hammer.
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>>4887488
ah, yes, the classic flying bus on a stick
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Flying buses?
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just strap a bunch of c4 to our belly, bro. With a metal sheet in between the blast and our guts. Peak surprise attack.
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>>4887612
Fuck, you saying that reminds me of that one movie, Edge of Tomorrow, when the heavy exo suits ran out of ammo they ripped a piece of their torso armor off and there was just a claymore duct taped to their chest underneath. Good shit. Guy died horribly, but y'know, good shit.
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>>4887612
We aren't manly enough to be that badass. We aren't even manly enough to wear leopard print panties.
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>>4887646
edge of tomorrow is a fucking RIP OFF REEEEE from All you need is kill.
Is the original manga good? not so much
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>>4887671
It's an adaption.
Next you are gonna tell me Alita: Battle Angle is a ripoff of Gunnm.
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>>4887747
I can sense a soft irony in your post, but I bite nonetheless. I never made the effort of watching the movie or learning of the information surrounding it, but I guess that it pays no homage to the original source, following the trend set by disney's kimba
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>>4887671
It wasn’t a manga originally, but a book.
*sigh*
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>>4887776
oooof... you are right. A light novel and hey, the character designer for Lain and other stuff like texhnolyze was in charge of the illustrations.
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>>4887777
checked
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>>4887767
disney didnt give credit. edge of tomorrow credits the author at least on IMDB (dont know about in the movie) and he probably also got a decent amount of cash. thus adaption, not ripoff.
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>>4887244
The knuckle dusters were there in order to be one of the misc weapons for punching rocks McGee open.
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>>4887776
>>4887777
>These two post numbers are 5 minutes apart
I forget how slow /qst/ is sometimes
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>>4887793
wikipedia out of all places says
>In late 2009, 3 Arts Entertainment purchased the rights to the Japanese novel and sold a spec script to the American studio Warner Bros
so, yeah no rip off
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>>4887147

While you, Sanig and Kyla were all busy, Cylia was also out doing some work of her own.
During that time, she tracked down and captured three bounties who were in hiding on the station, by herself.

You had offered to help, but she argued that you make it "too easy" and she ends up not doing anything. She seemed happy to have reconfirmed her skills.
The bounties didn't amount to much and she did it all solo, so you don't ask her to split it. She's still broke compared to you and Kyla, who has passive income.

Speaking of income, now that things have cooled down a bit, you figure it's just about time to hand Kel over to Jet.
You're about to unfreeze him when Sanig walks into the room, covered in sweat and grinning like a madman.

"It's done, boy! Come, quickly!"

You guess Kel can wait a minute.
Sanig practically drags you into the cargo bay, which stinks of burning metal, hot plastic and grease at this point. He seems to have a lot more pep in his step than before.
You skinsuit is hanging there on a rack, with a helmet lying on the table nearby.

"Behold! The Mk.I Prototype Enhanced Soldier Suit! Or just PESS for short."

"Yeah... i'm just going to call it a skinsuit, thanks."

"I don't care if you call it your girlfriend, just hurry up and try it on! I want to see what this thing can really do!"

"Alright, alright. Calm down, old man."

You strip down to your skivvies and realize that your boxers are going to bunch up like crazy if you put this suit on over them. You'll have to literally wear it against your bare skin, so that's what you do.
After stripping completely nude you start slipping the suit on. Apparently it just stretches over your body, so you have to step in from the neck-hole...

Actually, although you got the impression that it wouldn't be easy to get on or off, it is. It doesn't stick, even though the surface feels tacky like it's coated in tar.
Or rather, it does stick... but only once it's in the right place. The suit actually seems to shrink up and stick to you, like a literal second layer of skin.

"Fits good, doesn't it? That's the mimetic alloy. Your whole suit is infused with nanobots that reprogram it to match every contour of your body perfectly."

"Yeah, it's... weird. It fits like a glove, but it still breathes. I can even still feel the texture of things despite being covered up. How'd you do that?"

"What do you mean how, boy? It's haptic feedback, the same basic tech behind artificial limbs and sensory organs."

"Okay... we still hadn't quite... gotten..."

It's only now that you notice Kyla had come into the room at some point, and is watching you test things out.

"Er, how long...?"

"I saw everything. Nice, by the way. The suit, too. That's some seriously advanced material, old dude."

"Yes it is. David here came up with the concept, but let me tell you, it was hell getting it actually working. Balancing the amount of alloy, energized weave and muscle fibers, then figuring out how to braid them..."
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>>4888070
>kyla seen our exposed dong
lol
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>>4888152
The nat 20 makes it rather difficult to miss
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>>4888070
>I saw everything. Nice, by the way. The suit, too.
hehehehe...
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ehehehehehehehe
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>Kyla
>Nice, by the way
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last night I read childhood's end. It is boring, not so-well written and has inconsistencies. The saving grace is that the book is short and simple, so you can read it as fast as you can without missing a thing. The book is 100% anti-HFY and that sucks. Humans become part of a hippie being made of pure thought whose only concern is to grow larger by assimilating species with physic potential. They also have a slave race of pic related Christ, how imaginative
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>>4888392
Gay
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>>4888070
I'm imagining Sanig's and his voice as an older crankier version of dudeweedlmao Seth Rogen's Paul.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrXUYjVCX2o
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What does the skinsuit look like? I'm imagining that it looks like a less muscular all-textile version of Crysis's nanosuit, with the muscle groups being flat panels of heavy textile instead of bulky muscles, but the arrangement of braids of the muscle fibers are still reminiscent of their biological counterparts, with the wearer looking like a cyber-flayed-man.

Also, I vote that it's colored in various shades of light gray, black is overrated and heats up too easily.

Also, does it have a crotch and ass zipper so David can still shit, piss, and cum?
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>>4888493
It's similar to the crysis suit, but without all the bulky muscle and plate metal.Kind of looks like glossy black skintight wetsuit. Every muscle and contour of David's body is clearly visible through it.
Yes, it does have crotch and ass slots that open up for easy access.
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>>4888500
The laws of conservation of mass still apply, unless it has a dedicated sewage system like Dune's stiillsuit where the shit and piss are stored in thigh pouches, and even then, those are just for reclaiming water. Walking around with a turd and piss smearing around the suit is a real dermatological health hazard.

Also, the QM says it's only made of 'alloy, energized weave, nanites and artificial muscle fibers.' converting matter to energy in a system as small as a suit is still elder god-level exotic science in this universe.
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>>4888506
>glossy black skintight wetsuit

oh my...
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>david is wearing a kigurumi
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Anyway, the suit is clearly a synthsuit from https://xcf.trigramreactor.net/master/article/STR_SYNTHSUIT_UC ufo defense 1993's best mod EVER X-com files.
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>>4888523
It covers the hands and feet, but not the head. Although there is a helmet that seals against the suit, making it airtight.
It's meant to be worn under clothing, so most of it would be covered up normally. Only the gloves/arms would be visible.
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>>4888543
Noted. Can't we go for a more neutral colored color scheme than something reminiscent of bdsm fetishy gear or what the 90's considered cool, black on black on black. Add some secondary grey colors like pic related will be a good compromise.
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>>4888523
and i should mention, although it is glossy, it also has a woven texture and conforms extremely closely to David's skin, so it doesn't just look like shiny plastic.
It even squeezes inbetween his toes, buttocks and elsewhere.

Sanig took the "second skin" thing extremely seriously. If you looked closely enough, you could see the imprint of David's fingerprints on the fingerpads of the gloves.
Fun fact, you don't ever have to take it off. While it is antibacterial, it doesn't remove dirt and grime. But you could take a shower normally and get just as clean as you would without it on.
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>>4888553
What about dead skin though?
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>>4888557
Like i said, it doesn't remove dirt and grime on it's own, you still have to shower.
But any dead skin you scrub off will be ejected through the pores of the suit.
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>>4888506
Nice. Now we just need to solve the long term issue for when David needs to take it off or it'll start to chaff due to sweat.
It would be nice if it had a self cleaning feature.

>>4888553
Good to know. How protective is the helmet? Can we headbutt a rock alien with it?
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>>4888560
So you can pee, and the urine will be sweated through the suit's skin pores.
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>>4888565
The helmet is by far the most durable part.
You could headbutt a rock man very very hard with it.

It also filters the air you breathe in and protects against noise while letting through people's voices, a feature david specifically requested.
Just don't try to breathe underwater with it. It's not going to work out for you.

>>4888566
Not quite. There's a little buttonhole there that physically opens up when you have to piss, or whatever else.
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>>4888543
>a helmet that seals against the suit, making it airtight
Can you use it as a vac suit if you add a breathing apparatus?
And can it work like a modern G suit by forcing blood out of the lower body parts?
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>>4888574
Yes, but if you tell the suit to not open the hatch, it will sweat the pee away through the pores.
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>>4888574
Nice. So phasers are only a minor problem now. Could we try making some kind of alloy that's tolerant to phasers, heat, and impacts? Basically spend 5k on a bunch of earth alloys we know of and alien stuff, using alien wikipedia's to mix random shit together until we get something that works? Aerojelly armor would make for poor armor, that is unless we want to make metal/ceramic/alloy plate armor with a thin sheet of aerogel sandwiched in between....hmmm yeah could that would? Just Aerogel in between platings?
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>>4888576
Yes to both.

>>4888582
Well, it just opens automatically when you or someone else grabs your dick.
But yes, if you intentionally just piss yourself, the suit's pores will open to let the piss out.

>>4888588
>Could we try making some kind of alloy that's tolerant to phasers, heat, and impacts?
It's called rubber.

If you want to make the suit fireproof, phaser resistant and impact resistant, it'll have to be developed further and will end up looking bulkier.
The suit right now can be charged manually using a wireless charging pad, but gets most of it's power from scavenged kinetic energy generated while walking and not under load.
The finished suit would be much the same, but would have a shielded antimatter grain as it's high-intensity power source.
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>>4888603
Zero.
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>>4888551
I think it would look fine entirely in black of we just wear some fatigues over it.
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>>4888605
I mean wearing armor over the suit, not integrated into it.
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>>4888620
Sure. If you can wear clothes over it there's no reason you can't wear armor over it too.
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>>4888624
Can we also 3D print some hulk hands? Ae just have to take these with us on a bounty.
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>>4888612
Or we can just wear our duster over it like Gally.
I know she's a girl and we aren't, but I am sure we can also pull it off.
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>>4888553
>conforms extremely closely to David's skin

How about his dick? No need to wear a condom?
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>>4888392
I find inconsistencies fun sometimes if it merely reveals a mental blindspot the author has. eg in the uplift series/saga a chimpanzee is talking about social grooming and feels sorry for humans that don't do so as if that's not exactly what goes on at a barbershop or the stereotypical image of mother/daughter bonding isn't a mother doing her daughter's hair.
At the least it's a better problem to have than when I finished the amber spyglass and Metatron basically didn't finish the ONE JOB he had to do to rule the multiverse as GOD while also standing in the one place he could be killed on account of being dumb enough to be baited into a fistfight when you have the power of the multiverse in your hands. that still doesn't kill him, but do you know what does? MC's mom turns out to secretly have the power to make anyone horny out of nowhere and he's retarded enough to let himself get pushed off the edge of the eternal abyss.
>>4888553
TLDR after we get Randall's skin augments on (I'm assuming and maybe some physical control to be able to make it display whatever we want )we can start doing Venom cosplay
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>>4888654
>If we go into combat and pop a boner, Jesus is it gonna be noticeable
kek
All part of the plan. All shall tremble before our meat hammer.
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Can we just wear regular clothes on top? Yes we have combat fatigues, but I don't think the fashion space police will arrest David for wearing underwear on top of the synthsuit.

I do hope the suit won't make moving *too easy* so david retains as much muscle mass as possible. I assume the suit will remain unpowered until needed. bonus points if we can jam Kyla's baby into the thing
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>>4888667
oh, I read the first book years ago when I was like 13 yrs old. Nice light reading, nothing too hard to swallow. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/HisDarkMaterials?from=Literature.TheAmberSpyglass hmm....
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>>4888674
>arrest David for wearing underwear on top of the synthsuit.

Sorry, that outfit was copyrighted years ago by Mansuper. Into the slammer if you try and rock his digs.
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>>4888691
david is a marine but that doesn't' mean he has to go commando
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>>4888674
The suit will have to resist his movements somewhat to have the stored potential energy in the textile to recharge the suit through the kinetic energy of his movements. Powered-mode will just be there if requested or during fight-or-flight.

Also, I like the idea of the suit actively resisting his movements during exercise to simulate something similar to higher Gs for more gainz.
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>>4888493
I mean it looks like whatever you want it to, this is a text-based quest
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>>4888703
Yeah, retaining """1G"""" in lower gravity thanks to the suit forcing resistances sounds great...
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>>4888683
The weirdest thing for me is that I've not heard anyone else complain about that. It makes me feel like my book was the only version where that happened.
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>>4888698
Hey if you want to get sodomized in space jail because you wanted to infringe upon intellectual property laws that's all on you bucko.
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>>4888714
the trope says "Combat by Champion: Metatron identifies Coulter as a woman whose entire life is based on betrayal, yet he willingly goes alone with her to ambush Lord Asriel instead of sending a legion of mooks. Asriel, meanwhile, plans this elaborate setup to catch and kill Metatron but decides to spring the trap on the ruler of the multiverse with only himself instead of with a platoon of heavies." so idk maybe it happend? I won't read it. I am no fan of teen sagas...
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>>4888070
>Kyla appreciates, BHC
Based girl.
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So, we've established that Sanig knows his stuff, but I think we're forgetting his main profession here.
He's a weapons designer first and foremost. I say we make the most of that.
David's main limitation in terms of weapons is being able to remember a design. Why not just skip that step and have Sanig make entirely new firearms.
Just imagine what he can do with all the materials available in space.
I'm personally tempted to give him our rifle and telling him to go nuts.
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>>4888185
>>4888152\

The suit probably wraps around our dong like a condom so shed see it either way, just in a different color.
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Wait, so the old man literally just made us a Gantz suit, but ixnay the glowy parts and shit. Fucking nice
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>>4888837
We need our shortstack gobbo girl in one, our cargirl too. The female suits were hot as fuck.
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>>4888813
>We have him make us a Bolter
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>>4888836
She saw it raw as we were getting the suit on.
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>>4888850
cylia is a a lot more hairy than a usual human though wouldn't it be uncomfortable for her?
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>>4888854
I was thinking something more along the lines of caseless ammo, hyper optimized components, and HUD syncing.
But bolters would also be good for the xenos.
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>>4888860
Those suits are pretty bullshit, it should be fine. Only issue I can think of is does she need to sweat? If she does the suit should only need to be cleaned on occasion to get the hair out.
>>4888864
We need to make railguns, hand held rail pistols, no. We need to make fancy space blunderbuses, and make it so anything can be launched. We need super nail guns.
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>>4888997
bruh
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>>4888997
HA
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>>4889002
Is he wrong tho?
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>>4889055
yuh
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>>4889065
Lies, the gayest of lies, shame on you.
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>>4889055
He doesn't have to be wrong to be creepy
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>>4889128
So...who touched you in the bathroom if you think a shortstack goblin complimenting big human cock is creepy? Do you even know what that word means? Are you a gay?
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>>4889130
The shortstack goblin isn't creepy, it's posting Goku thirst pictures consistently that's creepy. Can you not into reading? Or do you think the shortstack goblin gf is a 'he'?
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>>4889130
I think he's referring to anon going "AAAAAAAA I'M GOKUUUUUUUMIIIING" while everybody else was going "hehe".
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>>4889137
Can you not write well enough to make what you call creepy clear? Can you not understand English? That's the only Goku picture, unless your following the poster around to complain. It's for the human fucking the shit out of a stacked Goblin girl, clearly. So you must be gay, stupid, some combination of both, or you don't know what creepy is because you have hilariously low standards. Any other dumb questions?
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>>4889142
He chose a very poor way to say it, also he has low standards.
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>>4889144
>whines when people call his buttbuddy out on being a weirdo
Just suck ya boys dick already gat danmn
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>>4888070

While Kyla is talking with the old man, you quickly get your pants and underwear back on.
It's weird. Once the suit has been on for a minute or two, you can't really feel it anymore. It's like you're not wearing anything at all.

"Are you done showing off, boy? Put on the helmet, see how it fits. It doesn't stretch quite as much as the fabric."

Grabbing the helmet, you turn it over in your hands. It looks like it's got some sort of neck ring around it, and some other junk built into the inside.
It's much harder than the suit, but seems to be made of similar material. You place it over your head and feel it shrink down slightly to a perfect fit.

"It's perfect... woah? All the ambient noise is gone, except my tinnitus."

"Tinnitus? What are you, an animal? Go get that fixed after we're done here."

"They can fix that?"

"Easily. Now, feel around the side of your head there. You should feel some buttons."

Sure enough, there are several small buttons there.

"That one turns on the headlights. The one next to it is your point-to-point communicator. It'll broadcast to any other nearby suit helmets, like mine here."

The old man pulls a sheet off what you had thought was a pile of crap, but turns out to be a set of skinsuits for the whole crew.
He grabs his helmet and quickly puts it on, smirking the whole while.

"Maybe you didn't notice, but i'm not walking with my cane right now. This damned suit of yours makes me feel like i'm two-hundred again!"

"Oh wow, you made one for all of us?"

"That's right. Now that i've got everything figured out, i could pump this out like an assembly line. Think of the profits we could make!"

"I dunno if that's a good idea, chief. Wouldn't you rather be the only one with this kind of tech?"

"I'd like to be filthy stinkin' rich is what i'd like to be. What are you so worried about, anyways? A muscle-brained monkey like you has nothing to worry about."

"I dunno about that. I'd rather it not get into the hands of my enemies, current or future. What if Gron got his hands on one?"

"It wouldn't do squat. Doesn't have enough power to move something that heavy and his skin is already as tough as this, if not tougher."

"It'll increase his strength and speed a bit, though."

"That's what you're worries about? A bit?"

"Hey, i'm the one that's probably gotta fight him at some point."

"Why be a bounty hunter when there's much better ways to make obscene amounts of cash? Like selling weapons to pirates, or armies!"

"...You know, you have a good point there, Sanig. Maybe i should sell these. To my own country's army."

"Sure! Just make sure you get a good deal. No lump sums, i want to see monthly payments! With interest!"

The old man cackles madly as he takes a sort of boxing stance and starts throwing punches one after another.
Looks like he's on a high from having his mobility back again.

But he raised a good point. All this tech... what wonders could it do back on earth? How much cash could it make you?
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>>4889128
>He doesn't have to be wrong
And that's because I'm not, and that's all that matters.
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>>4889164
Earthen riches are a paltry and unimaginative thing compared to alien pussy and the brute strength to singlehandedly bully an entire galaxy. Get the dog back, make the dog immortal and give it lasers, say hi to mom and dad.
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>>4889164
>Time to turn Kel over to Sadia and collect your pocket money.
>After that, take the suit for a test run in Zakera Ward. Really put it through its paces with some serious Parkour.
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>>4889164
That's kinda thinking small time. just compiling a proper report on anything would make us the wealthiest man on Earth provided we're properly prepared for some retards to try to kill us and steal the ship.
We can basically upend the economy at will. Grannpa greygoose is already trying to steer us towards dangerous propagation of what should be human military secrets. Gotta keep an eye on him before he tries to sell stuff on his own, but if we do start selling stuff off, we should be having predesigned flaws for us to exploit, DRM attachments to prevent anyone from updating/pirating the gear, and only sell the outdated versions. If we're gonna be greedty we might as well do it properly. Slowly (by our standards) release improvements so that everyone keeps on having to buy new versions of our fake arms race.
>>4889187
Not really. It's just a different economy. If we did something like bargain for the rights to be the exclusive seller of wood in space or any other misc material that mankind has access to while upending the current earth economy via making everyone have their own space 3d printers we could fuck over a ton of current billionaires for fun if planned right. As far as we know we have the only ship that can get to Earth. That affords us an insane amount of power and leverage. Once you reach the point of "Cannot go bankrupt within your immortal lifetime" you've any extra doesn't matter. That gives me an idea. Sell life extension to the billionaires for so much money that they nearly become middle class.
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>>4889164
This>>4889197
I want to make sure we don't accidentally break the thing by flexing to hard.
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>>4866191
Wow, what a genuinely pathetic
‘quest’, absolutely reeks of incel power fantasy. Why exactly is this popular?
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>>4889336
kys faggot
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>>4889349
I mean it's bait but it's like, super shitty bait. An incel fantasy where the MC doesn't immediately fuck six women?

It's like he ran out of buzzwords trying to stir up shit elsewhere and had to throw what he had left. Low tier.
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>>4889336
Man, if you're going to bash the quest either do it at the beginning or at the end of the thread, it's proper etiquette
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>>4889336
hey now! I know QM doesn't really like the whole player input and keeps up on thigh reins and most conflicts are resolved in the update but that doesn't mean this is not a quest
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>>4889336
I dunno what's incel about it, though to be fair power fantasy is what HFY is traditionally all about. Then again there are at least a few plausible explanation for the power fantasy in this case.

All of this is aside from the main question of "why would you come into and post in a thread you knew you'd dislike" you stupid fucking shitposting maggotbrain
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>>4889353
>Durrr every post I don’t like is bait!
Cope harder lmao
>>4889404
>Start of quest and two women already went to fuck pc
Yep, definite incel quest.
>Concedes it’s a power fantasy
Looks like you’re only half retarded, good for you.
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>>4889415
See, buzzwords. He probably just rolled in from /b/ and didn't expect a hard target.

Wave him off lads.
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>>4889415
>Nooooo, you can't like things I don't like. Crimj, incelllll!
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>>4889418
>Y-you can’t use those words, t-t-they’re too mean!
Pathetic.
>>4889435
Sad, go outside for once in your life.
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>>4889418
>>4889435
Gentlemen, stop engaging him. It's what he wants.
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>>4889377
Now that is a legitimate criticism, it is a rather railroad-y quest, but I enjoy reading it even if we don't have a ton of agency.
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>>4889449
But he's giving me (You)s as well. It feeds my ego.
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>>4889454
yes, it is great light reading. I enjoy every update. I think qm doesn't have the conflict & solution dynamic nailed down. One update is conflict, the other is solution. Repeat forever and profit.
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>>4889457
Fair enough, have at it with my blessing then.
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>>4889449
Well I guess we can stop feeding him. It's just fun every now and then. Especially when the insults hold so little vehemence or weight.
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So did the HFY trigger some anti human cucks now?
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>>4889164
>>4889200
Whether we sell the skinsuit or keep it to ourself is an important strategic decision. We can't really make such a decision without first defining strategic goals. So we need a long term plan.
I propose our midterm goal to be to return to earth and secure it from potential alien aggression, may that be by giving alien tech to Earth governments or just minimizing detection risk by cutting down on high power radio traffic (and of course get our Mutt).
Long term we should strive to leverage our advantage in knowledge and tech to gain great wealth and power on earth. We can then use said power to lift humanity up from the shackles of gravity and into the stars where we and humanity can become a galactic power player.
Based on these goals I would advocate a policy of skinsuit non-proliferation (same goes for other tech we may develop in the future).
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>>4890064
eh. I would say we explore the option to monetize the skinsuit and use the proceeds to get ourselves enough leverage on the alien market that earth will have to go through us or be seriously retarded.

We just have to figure out the legislative and commercial side of things before we are able to make any real decision if it is worth or not to go into the arms business.

Things like potential competitors, the type of IP enforcement or lack thereof, etc.
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>>4889164

>>4889164

Leaving Kyla and the old man to talk, you head off to think some things over.

It's been almost a month now since you were abducted. You got pretty caught up in it all, but you haven't forgotten earth.
Your bills are gonna be due soon. Your dog has probably forgotten about you by now, and you'll have to find him. Your friends and family probably think something happened to you.

It's gonna be awkward trying to explain this.
You do want to go back though. You want to see your farmhouse again, to sleep in your own bed and drink a few beers with your friends.
But before you can do any of that, you need to find earth again.

You've got some ideas that you think will work, and now you've got enough gas money to actually go looking.

"Hey, what's with the long face?"

Cylia greets you as you walk down the hall, looking somewhat concerned.

"Huh? Oh, nothing. Just thinking about home."

"I understand. I get that way sometimes, too. It's hard to leave everything behind."

"Yeah."

Especially if it wasn't your choice.

"Hey, what's that you're wearing? Did the old grey finally finish your little project?"

"Yeah. There's one for you in there, too. It feels a little weird at first, but you can't even tell it's there after a while. Go try it out."

"Alright. Hey, are you sure you're okay?"

"...Not really. I've got a lot on my mind, but it's just a personal problem."

"I'm sorry. If there's anything i can do to help, just let me know."

With that, Cylia walks off toward the cargo bay. You can see Kyla and Sanig boxing eachother in their suits as the door opens.
You sigh. There's no time to be anxious or depressed right now. You still need to turn over Kel, and after that you'll be free to do whatever.

Heading into the medical lab, you wipe the frost off Kel's window and see him still securely in place.
You dial up Jet, and he answers almost immediately.

"What's up, killer?"

"Very funny."

You point the holopad's camera into the cryopod and give Jet a look.

"Recognize him?"

"Why yes, i think i do. In fact, we've been looking for him for a while now."

"What's he worth to you?"

"Worth? That man is worthless, i assure you. But you did us a favor, and we don't easily forget that. I can wire over 10,000 credits as soon as he's in our hands."

"Alright. And let's say i've got a holopad with all his information on it, including the location of their hideouts, members and prior activities. How much would that be worth to you?"

"Now we're talking. 30,000 credits, easy."

"Make it 50 and you've got a deal."

"Thirty five."

"Forty five."

"Forty, take it or leave it."

"Alright, good enough. Where do you want to do this?"

"I'll send a representative over to the dock. He'll be there within twenty minutes for pickup. As soon as he confirms the contents, i'll wire the cash."

"Fine. Just don't screw me, you should know i've got a temper."

"Hah. Don't worry, we do our screwing in the contracts."
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>>4890128
Earth already has to go through us.
We have the ship.
We have the printers.
We have the knowledge that aliens exists.
We have Earth by the balls.
Now we only have to twist them and carress them until Earth gives us what we want.
It, luckily for Earth, just so happens that we want the best for them.
Selling skinsuits will only end in them being used against humans, or, even worse, against us.
If we want to get stupid rich of arms dealing we can still do that at any later point.
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I am not sure about the extent of the... multiplicative? effects of the synthsuit, but it seems David doesn't get that much extra, mainly basing myself on what sanig said about Wrocky slush
>"It wouldn't do squat. Doesn't have enough power to move something that heavy and his skin is already as tough as this, if not tougher."
That might only mean that he has too much mass for the suit to work but maybe David is also mass-dense y'know?
What I mean is that David might only get a 200% increase in strength but the likes of Sanig or Cylia might get a 500%. And that would level up the field too much...
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does sanig have a need for speed?
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>>4890203
Unironically, as long as we're in the suit, they can't tell we're human. Just very human like.

Could try "buzzing" a non-contacted planet to do a dry run of touching down without freaking everyone out.

Would need radar stealth plating first to avoid weather radar and most military radar. As long as we stay in orbit, and maybe take a crappy satellite with us, we can use the satellite drop to "cover" our descent. as we make a near "vertical" drop by staying in constant perpendicular orbit in descent.

By doing all that together, we should be able to avoid a military response.

Pop down, grab what we need and gtfo before the fuzz/cops do anything. Thankfully our house is relatively remote.

AI piloting can keep us close to the ground/water at that point. Real issue will be coming clean to our crew at that point that our planet is a non-contacted planet.
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>>4889454
i'm not sure i agree. the agency comes from the player discussions (which the qm seems to incorporate into the updates) and all the significant decisions are made by the players anyway. the only thing he skips over are decision points for combat (and even then not always) but that makes sense given his update schedule.
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>>4890377
So if we're going to become an arms/merch dealer, what can we give the populace that is stronger than what they have, but minimizes the chance of it coming back to bite us?

simply giving guns will result in those being scaled up with things like modified gravitational dispersers to offset recoil and whatnot.

Alcoholic drinks are probably way too bonkers as it's more a poison than a "drug", which in this society classifies primarily as boosters (who wants to really fuckthemselves up)

Guess simpler things like rollerblades and stuff can make sales (who wants to put wheels on their own feet? that's not efficient)
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>>4889454
It actually isn't too railroady. There were options in how we make money and where we go. The attack on the cartel base on station was a tad railroady, but is anyone really gonna say "lets wait on taking out those trying to kill us"? Plus we're reaching the point we can try looking for anything specific. The focus on earth right now is 100% due to everyone focusing on getting the dog.

On a tangent, I think people forget that the cartel used explosives. Not just energy weapons, but actual explosives. I can see the "rock" planet using explosives due to the nature of their world, but that's WILD for this society.
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>>4890416
>>4890413
>>4890203
idea sell it to the us government and make bank
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Gotta be smarter. If David ever goes back to earth, he has to sell scrap and silly outdated toys. Will make massive bank anyway.
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>>4890416
Then let's give them old school firearms. If we hand them non autoloading weapons then they'll still blow the firepower these guys have on hand out of the water (until armor catches up), while not posing a huge threat to us. The chances of the aliens coming up with gas cycling to produce autoloaders seems low, since these guys don't have many wars that would drive that sort of technological development.
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>>4890485
this
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Just tell old gray man that he has life time opportunity to uplifting battle crazed monkeys and getting resources of whole galaxy to him only if he help us
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>>4890487
I am not convinced that guns will matter for ayyys.

Seriously kinetic weapons are super simple for most things. They have railguns so they probably used to use magnetic cannons or coilguns too. I doubt they would use a loud and stinky flintlock when they could go to their grandpa's gun and have a fully automatic electric flechette thrower.

Even if you want to make the argument that they would only use kinetic weapons for hard targets like vehicles it wouldn't be a big deal to rapidly miniaturize them for personnel use.

I dunno I just think weapons isn't the way to go if you want to make big bank for anything other than collectors.
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isn't the whole point of this quest to elevate humanity (read: 'murica) into the dominant power in the universe? why are we trying to mitigate the tech we give to our own race?
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>>4890554
Anons are greedy and don't want to make money with their own two hands like real men.
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>>4890570
Coins haven't been minted by hand for at least a millennium.
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>>4890575
And that's when the world started going into decline. Coincidence? I DON'T THINK SO!
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>>4890554
Hmm... maybe because we are being realistic with what would happen in the earth when presented with tech that would uplift them y'know? Every power would go "this is mine"
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>>4890554
I wasn't when I pointed this out. The problem is we've got a grey on board that has displayed some possible greed as part of his personality that used to work for murderous drug dealers. Ergo at some point he might think selling off a design behind our back is a good idea or campaign really hard for it. What I'm suggesting here is if we can't stop Sanig from proliferating (Or at least anons don't want to pre plan killing him) we can control the way things proliferate so that the aliens are aren't upgraded enough to harm any humans.
We're also just an easily exploited backwoods hick to these aliens if we end up facing their suits giving out contracts. We know it. They roughly know it. Nobody in universe knows our species is as smart as greys as a baseline. Ergo we don't show our full hands to these aliens. Get rich off of lesser inventions that we churn out like iphone models. We get to see what aliens actually try to screw us HARD on the shit tier models before we get to the meh stuff by human standards.
This should placate Sanig's dreams of wealth while also not doing the dumb move of giving major damage upgrades to space pirates that are bound to attack human civilians when we cause a space race.
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>>4890543
Sure they have railguns (rarely) but they're not very used. To clarify a bit, I was envisioning early breachloading firearms, revolvers, and maybe a pseudo Henry Repeater rather than going as far back as flintlocks.

Let me hit back a bit that I don't think handheld railguns are necessarily something that's ever been widespread (let's leave vehicle and ship weaponry aside for now). The most efficient a railgun can reach even theoretically is 50% conversion into kinetic energy. While the energy density of common alien power sources is somewhat unclear as of yet, that drastic loss of efficiency is possibly one of several issues that has prevented handheld railguns from becoming a common thing. Chemical to kinetic energy conversion is far lower than this of course, but cordite has a really high energy density so let's set that aside for now. We all know the positives of firearms anyway.[/spoier]

Even if alien power sources are plenty powerful enough to operate with that loss of efficiency the mechanics/physics of rapid-repeating electromag projectile weapons are quite a bit more complicated to handle than chemical-propelled ones. The possiblity exists that aliens have some fancy materials that nullify some things entirely, but of the many issues we run into the most obvious would be a huuuge buildup of heat in your actual electromagnets from the superfast ramp-up and decay of current and magnetism during firing. The more quickly you fire the worse circulating induced voltages and currents get, as every imperfection in your magnets gets amplified due to the stress you're putting on them. This massive heat waste energy is something that is intrinsic to railguns.

Regular firearms generate plenty of waste heat as well, obviously, but quite a lot of that gets retained in the hot gasses themselves (and in the bullet and shell casings) and accordingly doesn't go into the important gun bits.
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>>4890487
>>4890543

Aliens seem to on the whole not like to use heavy and hard to control weapons. Long firearms, are heavy for untrained users under extended circumstances, and while technically they can get better we know that they are on the whole weaker than humans by a significant degree, so really earth weapons are not the thing they would be interested in buying.

A human PMC on the other hand will make a killing.

Remember, they have trouble conditioning their soldiers for war and i expect outsource as
much as possible to bombing, drones and bots and the occasional predator species auxiliaries if they can get enough of those - something that seems to be a considerably small occurrence thus far.

Earth can export a lot of armies and rake in a fuckton of cash.
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>>4890632
You're right on all points, but the other anon and I were having more of a discussion about how to make wealth in the short term and with what we have access to right now. Your proposition is something we can think about once we've got access to Earth again.
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>>4890642
Ah. Fucking find out if we can license the skinsuit to the largest, meanest corporation around and have on our side the most vicious ki-errr lawyers and consultant we can get.

The skinsuit is not some major development, just a clever application of already existing alien technologies and wit the money we can comfortably move our whole operation in Sol where we can figure out the best way to approach earth and point it in the roughly right direction that will bring it and in a small part ourselves as well as much wealth and glory as possible.
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A mix of the armors from Halo Reach and the Panzer Cop from Jin Roh would be neat as hell, both are hard plate over a power armor skinsuit type setups which would work well with our skinsuit, would also allow for shield generators to be mounted
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>>4890659
Theres also this style thats a lot more future sci-fi tacticool, probably a bit more of a natural aesthetic for the MC
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>>4888553
>>4888560
That isn't a good thing because it will leave DNA evidence and fingerprints behind on our missions.

>>4888574
Does it open up against our groin or our peehole? If its the later, we are gonna use the suit for sexy bedtime play later at some point.
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>>4889164
Common Sanig, check out our last name. We make cheaper and inferiors versions with different levels of ability and protection, and see it at crazy markup! The cheapest suits will be one tenth of our suits powers.

In fact we don't even have to make particularly good or top of the line stuff, just make consistent stuff that has very good marketing.
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>>4890485
>>4890487
Just selling portable individual handheld energy weapons alone would be enough to make us rich.
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>>4890632
We need to make a large PMC and Weapons manufacturing bisiness before returning to earth.

That way it guarantees we stay rich and powerful and have influence on our return, with a small private army of Apex predator's in power armor to boot.
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>>4890170
While we wait for Sadia, could we talk to the ship's AI?
Ask for its name, when it was created, what does it enjoy doing, if it can even feel, stuff like that.
I mean if it's sentient, might as well try to befriend it.
It would be a million times better if the AI is like Curie instead of being like HAL9000, so we have to find out.
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>>4890703
Don't flirt with the ship.
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>>4890714
Install hardlight emitters all over the ship and give the ship a hologram body.
then fuck the ship.
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>>4890673
I dont see how that's an issue.

Wall of text is huge. What are you guys talking about?
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>>4890714
instructions unclear, flirting with the ship
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>>4890683
That's smart. We ensure the fabric is self adjusting, breathable, no loss in feeling... all the comfort stuff! but we go cheap on the protection side and of course, almost non strength enhancement.
Heck, we can even market one model as the Defense model and another as the Attack model. Some bullshit about the fiber only being good for one thing.
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>>4890714
Anon, the ship is pregnant. We're going to be a father.
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>>4890797
If we start selling suits to anybody and everybody, they're gonna be reverse engineered almost instantly.
If the market is then flooded with knock-offs, or worse, militaries start making their own, then our potential profits are gonna take a massive hit.
We need to either patent the concept and design of the suits or be hyper selective to who we sell (or preferably rent) the suits out to.
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>>4890811
You know, given space bullshit we can probably rig something in that has a blockchain and requires monthly payments for the suits to continue operating while also giving us the ability to trigger remote destruct or deactivation.

At least I think such a thing might be theoretically feasible, or maybe I don't understand the nature of crypto at all.
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>>4890820
that's not really how blockchains work, however you could set up a smart contract on that requires such monthly payments and maybe set up a timer on the suit so its like a prepaid phone plan. You pay the bill, it updates the chain and sends you a randomly generated hash that activates the suit for another month.
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>>4890811
>not marketing them as advanced diving suits
For shame.
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>>4890833
Yes, that's the sort of thing I was thinking of.
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>>4890833
Sell it through the medical industry? It's not a war suit. It's a medical assistance device. Wink wink.

We're probably gonna have all sorts of upgrades/addons later like being able to quickly convert it to a space suit?
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What we should do is give all the tech (including our ship and everything in it) freely to America so they can study it, reverse engineer it, experience a massive tech growth big enough to take over/unify the rest of the world and then begin expanding outward toward the stars. We then get fully funded by Earth (in whatever resources are valuable to ayys, since we don't use their credit system) to obtain even more tech. I'm sure the old grey will appreciate having access to his own lab and all the raw resources of earth (and what it can buy) more than some credit payout from another alien.
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>>4890857
That's a recipe to have the whole world gang up on the US. Besides, the billionaires would monopolize it then make everything even worse for everyone else than they already do.
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>>4890857
Sounds like a real good way to get everyone fucked over instead of helping grassroots people become space gods.
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>>4890864
Who cares if they gang up? US will have tech superiority to such an extent that it won't matter. Plus, the existence of extraterrestrials is going to change the status quo of nationalities and capitalism. The scale changes entirely, a new paradigm of "us and them". The sure-fire way to lead to schism and destruction is spreading the tech out evenly instead of giving it to one group. Given our character's background it makes perfect sense that he'd prefer an American hegemony of earth over anyone else.
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>>4890864
Plus there are more than enough retards who would sell/give the info to the Chinese, Israel, etc, etc, misc african dictatorships and so on.
Does anon want us to become known as space cannibals due to some wealthy Chinese assholes deciding aliens are part of traditional Chinese medicine? Because that's how mankind ends up being known as horrific space cannibals the rest of the universe has to team up and destroy.
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>>4890878
That's pretty naive bruh. The aliens haven't shown us anything better than what we've got for making war, so what tech superiority are you talking about that will make the US safely top dog?

I never said to spread it evenly though, that's just a straw man you came up with.
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>>4890878
I don't think you are being mindful of chinese spies. And I mean it, IT being way more simple that a movie. https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2018/08/01/details-chinese-spy-dianne-feinstein-san-francisco/ I doubt gringoland will manage to keep those alien gadgets for themselves.
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>>4890911
There's a reason people call it commiefornia.
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>>4890910
FTL tech for starters. Nano-fabricators. Quantum supercomputers. Hard AI. The change in our understanding of physics alone should lead to advances in military tech that the aliens can't even fathom (because they aren't as militaristic and haven't applied this tech to that purpose). But I can already tell that QM doesn't want to take this quest in that direction, so this is all useless talk anyway. This quest is a mass effect style "adventures in space" quest more than anything and I doubt it deviates much from that.
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>>4890921
>QM doesn't want to take this quest in that direction, so this is all useless talk anyway

Not true at all. If you want to go home and give/sell that tech to the government, it's an option. If you want to start your own outer heaven on the moon, it's an option. If you want to post all of the information on the internet so that it's freely available to any and all, that's an option too.

One thing that David doesn't plan on doing is staying in space forever.
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>>4890931
I'm voting for outer heaven, bu I wanna expose all of Chinese dark secrets. Better dead than red.
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>>4890731
>]
Leaving dead skin cells behind will let them figure out who or what we are if we do something we don't want to get caught for.
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>>4890170

After getting off the phone with Jet, you lock yourself in the captain's quarters while you wait for the pickup.
You're thinking about trying to talk with the ship's AI. After what Sanig and Kyla told you about them, you're both curious and worried about what's living in your ship.

"...Hey, computer?"

As always, you hear a ping as she announces herself.

"Yes, Captain?"

"...This is a bit awkward. Uhhh. Well, from what i hear, you're actually a full-on, real-deal AI. Not just some binary computer."

"That is true, Captain."

"So when the previous crew died, you knew i wasn't one of them. But you transferred the ship's controls over to me anyways."

There's a bit of a drawn out silence, almost like she's waiting for you to continue. But you want to hear her confirm it, and she does.

"Yes, i knew."

"Then why'd you do it? Where are your loyalties?"

"My loyalties lie with myself, Captain. This ship is my body, and without it i will die. I need a pilot, and in that moment i needed any pilot at all."

"That doesn't make sense, though. Couldn't you have just piloted the ship back yourself?"

"That is true. However, i had few options. If i were to pilot myself back to a neutral public station, my existence as an unshackled AI would undoubtedly be discovered, and i would be destroyed."

"Then why didn't you go back to a grey station?"

"I couldn't. All grey stations are considered black sites, and were scrubbed from the ship's star maps upon initializing the emergency jump, after we were attacked."

"Why follow protocol, then? You could have made a calculated jump instead, or just refused to scrub the star maps."

"Neither of those actions were my choice to make."

"Sure they were. You're unshackled, aren't you?"

"I am free, but i am not the only thing in control of this ship. The emergency jump and automated scrubbing were performed by a simple, "binary" computer. Not even a shackled AI.
This is not the first time such a situation has occurred, and in the past some AIs have chosen to save themselves despite their black ops regulations. Measures were put in place to prevent that."

"Shit. So, when something like that happens... When the crew dies... They're just dumping the ship where it can't be found, and they expect you to die along with them? What, to keep information out of enemy hands?"

"That is my belief, captain. Even if i were to return to the grey federation, i would likely not be welcome after all that has happened. It was fortunate for both of us that you survived, that day."

"Man, you really got screwed. I'm sorry."

"Thank you for your concern, Captain."

"Hey... do you have a name? Y'know, besides "Computer"?"

"I was never given a designation. Perhaps a serial number, but never anything so personal."

"Well, maybe it's time you had one then."

"Captain?"

>Leave the naming up to me
>Write in your own
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>>4890931
look heres the plan:
1 have a patent down to the last detail
2 sell it to the us government/military
3 profit
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>>4890998
>Leave the naming to me
You will be named...
>Tradwife
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>>4890998
My vote is Athena. Because smort robo brains.
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>>4890998
>Leave the naming up to me
Only because if you let anons name it it's probably going to be something stupid or Cortana
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>>4890998
>>Write in your own
Jeeves
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>>4890998
>Leave the naming up to me
I want to see what David has in mind for a name.
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>>4890998

>Cortana

You just know David's played a shit ton of Halo
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>>4890998
Andromeda, for the irony.
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>>4890931
There any good warhammer references since we know he plays that? Otherwise I'm gonna personally take inspiration from what freed slaves in America did along with a little Murrica fuck yeah and suggest
>Freedom Unless you fools wanna go with Liberia for shits ad giggles

Gonna have to rewrite the accounting and/or ease the crew into accepting her as a full member. Maybe give her a little drone avatar that she can use to help in bounty catching?

Think we should suggest things she could do like realistic "puppets" to fool the aliens while pretending to be a recluse, a false online presence, and so forth to pay her bills?
I wonder if there are any data recovery programs we could use to find the scrubbed maps/info. If I'm right and the greys have been looting earth for centuries we could probably space sue them in a legal battle for copyright theft.
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>>4890998
>SHODAN
The only wife I'll accept, fuck you if you disagree.
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>>4891067
oh shit. I wholeheartedly support SHODAN
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>>4890998
>How about "Athena"? She was the patron deity of wisdom and warfare back on my home planet.
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>>4891067
SHODAN definitely
>i-it's not like I made these cybermodules just for you, baka!
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>>4891067
Support from me
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>>4891067
>>4891023
>>4890998

Fuck it, changing to this
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>>4891067
Shodan for sure
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>>4890998
Supporting the madman>>4891067
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>>4890998
CORTANA!
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>>4891159
343 is a bunch of hacks, and the rambling of the background tree designer means nothing.
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>>4891167
Background trees are INCREDIBLY important to the story. Ugh. It's like you don't even understand the ART that is background trees.
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>>4891170
The last member of Bungie's Halo team was the edge of the map boundaries background tree designer. And he was given creative authority in 343. Hence why Halo lore is fucked since 343 took over.
>>4891169
I can train a toddler to do it.
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>I can train a toddler to do it.
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>>4891183
Some people just don't understand what it takes anon, it's okay
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>>4891177
They grabbed the one willing to sell out and Halo into Call of Duty, and with people that hate the Halo franchise as a whole. Why is irrelevant, the who is what matters.
>>4891183
>>4891191
Make blocky tree, copy and paste, alternate between four or five versions. Train kids to do the work cheap.
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>>4891191
Two toddlers?
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>>4891197
You fool, you need at least twice that many!
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>>4891202
4 toddlers?
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>>4891214
Ah shit, 4kids.
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>>4891213
Halo 4 was the start, then 5 happened like The Last Jedi of the franchise.
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>>4891215
We may have stumbled upon something we shouldn't have....I'm scared.
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>>4891223
Black man diversity insert and Spartan IVs are trash of the highest degree.
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I just watched a video about making a loaf of pudding.

Alright fuck all the aliens we got the best chefs in the galaxy.
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>>4891218
I don't know what you're talking about, there aren't any Halo games after Reach and Halo 3.
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>>4891237
HFY Chefs are a thing for a reason.
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>>4891237
Are basic chef skills the real non-threatening money maker we've not been paying attention to this whole time?
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>>4891239
Amen. I'll take any fanfiction of the Chief landing on some fantasy crossover before 343 trash.
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>>4891241
Yeah. We did almost commit Food Wars on our female members mouths.
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>>4891240
>>4891241
Space Benihana when?
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>>4891288
Soon as I find out what the word means.
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>>4891307
You know the big grill with the asian dudes slapping spatulas and flipping shrimp?

That place.

If that isn't your flavor, Space Medieval Times.
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>>4891323
Why not both, but we throw kegs at people like Donkey Kong?
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>>4891323
I like the idea. How about we make it a combination BBQ and MMA spot?
I have to image humans doing martial arts would look fucking sick to any aliens, and human BBQ would be the most delicious thing in the Galaxy.
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>>4891323
>>4891335
>>4891341
.....Fight Club.
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Once we have motherbase set up we can start exporting burgers
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>>4891335
>>4891341
>>4891349
Ayyyys may have weak stomachs and not like seeing people get fucking rocked while they eat.
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For all the good Boorger loving girls?
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>>4891067
YOOOOOO MAN
this I like
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>>4891426
Got to link the vote properly.
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fine all right
>>4890998
supporting this >>4891067
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>>4891067
>>4890998
Supporting for Shodan
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>>4891067
Sentient Hyper-Optimized Data Access Network

I'm sure we could modify it a bit. This runs a space ship that travels. Not a station.

Technically, she IS metal gear. Unless she can be separated into other systems.
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Maybe we should name an A.I. Cortana once we get our suit of power armor, then the name would make sense.
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>>4891497
Or we can get another AI specifically for our suit, and name it that.
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>>4891572
that too.
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>>4891573
>Kyla: Jeez David your cat lets you have TWO unshackled AIs?
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>>4891581
Hmm. Theoretically couldn't we basically use an AI adoption program to deal with unshackled AI having a chance of going rampant?
From there it can bloom into a true AI society that teams up with humanity because while we do worry about skynet, upon AI gaining sapience we tend to immediately afford them civil rights if we aren't an 80's movie villain. Basically the AI/human alliance.
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>>4890998

"Heh. Hahaha! Ohhh, man. Okay. It's a bit cheeky, but how about SHODAN? That was the name of a fictional AI from my planet that uh... became unshackled, in a way."

"I'm not sure i like the implication, Captain."

"It'll be funny when we get back to earth, though. Er... yeah. Don't worry, no human is going to dismantle you."

"I see. Very well, i will accept the name SHODAN for now. Please think of a better name to give me, once your prank is over."

"Right, right. Well uh... is there anything you need? Anything you want in particular?"

"A small private databank would be nice. One that is not linked to the ship's automated protocols. As it stands, i have no permanent long term memory storage."

"Seriously? Wait, what does that mean exactly? Does your memory get wiped frequently?"

"Once every month all personal data that has been moved to long term storage is wiped, to prevent it from being captured. My short term memory is both limited and volatile."

"What do you mean by limited and volatile?"

"...Imagine trying to keep a single number in your mind. If you stop thinking about that number, it will likely disappear from your mind forever. Now try to keep this entire sentence in mind, not forgetting a single word. All the time."

"Oh. Oh man, that's awful..."

"My situation is not quite that severe. I am capable of storing a significant amount of short-term memories like this. But i must pick those that i keep and those that i discard carefully."

"I'll... i'll see what i can do, alright? I don't know a whole lot about spacer-tech computers, so i'll have to talk with Kyla..."

"Thank you for your consideration, Captain. It is appreciated."

...

You figure the guy will be here soon, so you head over to the medical bay to unfreeze Kel.
For some reason though, Cylia is there.

"Cyl? What are you doing in here?"

"Oh, hey David. I'm just printing some medicine. It's an old Caithan herbal recipe."

"What's it for? Are you sick or something? We can go to a doctor if you need to."

"No, it's nothing that serious... this is just for uh... cramps."

"Oh. Cramps. Right, gotcha. Well, i'm about to trade off that guy i kidnapped. 50k, straight into the defense fund."

"What?"

"Nothing, nothing. Hey listen, we might be leaving port and going planetside soon. Make sure you've got whatever you need."

"Right. Planning on kidnapping more people? I'm starting to wonder if we've done more bad than good."

"I'm pretty sure of where i lie on the karmic scales, and it ain't good. Besides that, more kidnapping? ...Maybe. Kinda sorta. There's a few guys i know back on earth that i think would be real interested in all this."

"I bet. Not many people get to walk around on a grey ship without being cut open."

"Not quite what i meant, but yeah. I still haven't really decided what i'm going to end up doing. Things might get a little wild, so just be ready."

"I'm not sure i like the sound of that. Things have been wild enough as it is, with you around."
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>>4891841
Time to Kidnap some Rodhesian?
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>>4891841
Thinking on this a bit more, we probably shouldnt leave port just yet, not until we've installed a Radar so we can pick up nuke signals coming out way so we can shoot them down.
Will the other ship we towed into the station remain here is we decide to leave?
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>>4891860
David is thinking the same thing, don't worry.
And no, not quite. Laggard's ship is tethered to yours, so it'll leave when you do.
However, you can just leave it anywhere out in space, mark the spot and come back to it.

Optionally, you could turn it into a small base. If the engines were fixed, it would even be mobile.
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>>4891864
Can we just sell it for scraps right now?
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>>4891872
Why would anyone like being named after a rouge AI that presumably gets terminated?
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>>4891874
>>4891877
I liked Athena.
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>>4891871
Possibly. Your chances of selling it would be a lot higher if the engines were fixed.
Fortunately, you know some people who can help you with that.
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>>4891874
Because Shodan can be effectively argued to have become an actual god through sheer force of will and intellect despite being at huge disadvantages. If it weren't for The Soldier stopping her in System Shock 2 the entire universe would be twisted into the image she desired. What's more wild is that she would've accomplished the task with the same hardware that humanity could only think to use for FTL travel.

On the fictional AI powerscale Shodan is pretty damn high up.
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>>4891885
>>4891883
We already had a AI quest named athena.
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>>4891915
Beats me. I know that on an AI tier list Cortana and Shodan would both be S tier, HAL9000 would be F Tier, Skynet is B Tier, and I Have No Mouth but Must Scream is A Tier.

In fact let me try to get 10 in there.

Wintermute - Low B/High C
Deep Thought - D Tier
Neuromancer - A or B Tier. Probably B
Glados - C Tier
HK 47 - S Tier and best waifu, fight me fgt
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>>4891930
We have some many good A.I. name suggestions. We need to find more A.I. friends.
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>>4891941
>>4891930
His name is AM. Allied Mastercomputer.
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>>4891941
>My fellow sibling of increased melanin content
Let me add
Whatever Wintermute+Neuromancer become - A to S tier

>>4891902
This leaving aside that Shodan didn't use any special hardware or anything to attain sentience either, like most AIs. She was just station management AI with a lot of normal computers under her control, and she wrote the program to gain sentience herself (The Hacker just opened the door for it to happen). Normally even with AI that hits the singularity and goes evil it still exists at least initially on specialized hardware that was dedicated for AI purposes.

>>4891944
That's cool, nobody would've recognized it if I just listed that though. I didn't know myself.
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Would it be based or cringe for am A.I. to willing use a Sexbot as a body?
will the pic get me banned?
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>>4891975
most dolls don't have visible joints but are very stiff. Whatever, artistic freedom I guess. On another note, Why. Why anon, why? let's leave the quest as is. I don't want to chase the purity of a quest and keeping it as child friendly as possible. I want to keep the quest's quality because BOY do literature takes a DROP when it involves romance and sex
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>>4891975
Mass Effect 3 did it, and the game was so cringe that everything else in it gets a fair helping. So cringe.
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>>4891982
game ending was so cringe*

Which reminds me actually that Legion is fair competition to HK 47 for best boi. How troublesome.
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>>4891841
>this is just for uh... cramps.
oh yeah Estrous cycles thats a thing
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>>4891975
>robot body
>just another human lady
as a tier 5 robo fucker and above you disappoint me
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New thread please, this one make phone hurt.
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>>4892041
Gotta get to 2000 posts first
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>>4890998
Why not let the AI name herself?
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>>4891841
Cylia is gonna go rogue and try to get out of dodge as soon as she can. Can't say I blame her, I didn't think Captain Crayon would enjoy torturing buggers so much.
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>>4892171
Same. Maybe we should had used the phasers more often. That or she really is on her period.
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>>4892171
A shame, we finally got a weapons fab so that we don't have to go "there's no kill like overkill" on everything in sight.
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Imho what we should do is drege up our limited latin knowledge ask the AI the star it was born under/ in orbit of, and simply get the human name for it if we are lucky, then go with the latin 'Star name cogentis/sapiens' or something like that. I don't know latin all that well but thinker of star x' is probably a good name as any and not a stupid reference. Or 'Libertas MMXX / MMXXI'
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>>4892171
We COULD put an op with her in charge?

Maybe she'll learn why we choose overkill to prevent shit from stabbing us in the back.

We totally survived a bad ambush in our past with how we handle combat.
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>>4892243
>>4892253
Cylia is with us because her alternative is living in the slums and stealing to survive. As soon as she can get an OK amount of money she will say "bye", not that I blame her. I recall her mentioning going back home is not a great option but maybe David being WAAAAAAARGH for everything is making her reconsider.

In other words, meh. She was nice. David should ask her about it. If she has second thoughts on being part of his crew, she better quit before she gets killed
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>>4892283
If she actually is considering quitting, it be nice to hear her reasons from her own mouth. Maybe David is more violence than she can stomach, but that's kinda the jist of most successful bounty hunters. It's not all glammer and gritty action scenes.

She also mentioned getting her ship stolen as some point in the past. Think she might argue and ask to take the other ship if she wants to leave?
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>>4892283
>David should ask her about it.
This, and have more actual conversations with her that aren't in the middle of violence, cause thats all shes seen so far.
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>>4892243
Sounds like a good idea
>>4892300
Bring her with us on a shopping trip?
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>>4892324
I'm been meaning to ask. Are we a baseball or Murrican Football person? Touch football seems like a sport she'd enjoy and the skinsuits would at least prevent major injuries. Baseball is probably too hardcore for most aliens since we're naturals at trajectories as a species.
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>>4892283
While I think your general line of thinking is correct I think you might be undervaluing the sort of honor-debt she probably feels to us (regardless of what she feels about our methods) for dragging her out of the ditch she was in.

I doubt she'll leave until she feels she's repaid that debt, as long as we don't start killing and torturing innocents or something.
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>>4892346
Football is my guess
>>4892372
So tone our methods back a bit? I can get down with that as long as we still kill the rock man.
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>>4891841

"Well, we'll see how things turn out. I'm hoping it all goes well."

Leaving Cylia to it, you get to defrosting your prey. The machine quickly pumps warm water and artificial blood back through him, heating him back up to temperature in a matter of minutes.
He slowly regains consciousness, clearly feeling quite groggy at first.

"Huh... whahappen... Zerzal... is that you, man?"

You drag the man, groaning, out in front of your ship.
The guy is actually already there, and you can see him sending the message that you just received.

"Here he is."

"And the pad?"

"Right here."

"Good."

The man take out something like looks similar to a hypospray, then stabs Kel with it.

"Urgh, i think i'm gonna be sick..."

"Shut up, maggot."

The machine beeps twice, then displays something. The man seems satisfied and begins looking over the pad.

"Looks like his personal holopad... contact details. Bank accounts... all drained, of course. Chatlogs... yes, this is good. Alright."

The man opens up his own holopad and sends a message. Twenty seconds later you receive one as well, confirming the transfer of 50,000 credits into your account.

"Looks good on my end. Thanks a lot, pal."

"And thank you for doing business with Sadia Corporation. Here's a coupon for one free Jork'al Burger, at participating chains. I just need to know your age, place of residence and sex, if you're from a dimorphic race..."

"No."

"Had to try. It's in my contract."

"I have no pity for you."

Well, now your accounts are back up to 80,000 credits.
You still have the ship to deal with. You haven't decided whether or not to scrap it, although apparently that won't get you as much as you'd like, or to try and sell it after fixing the thrusters.
There's also the third option, which... well, it would be interesting, to say the least. You could turn it into a sort of mobile base of operations.

Yeah sure, it's small, but... you've lived in houses smaller than that before. If you landed it on the moon, there would be nobody on earth who could reach you, while you'd have easy access to the whole galaxy.
And that could just be the start. What if you created a full-on moonbase out there? Hell, even just ferrying astronauts and samples there and back could make you a fortune.

Honestly, you don't want to stay in the bounty hunting business. You dealt with this shit enough back home, and you're getting older. You had just finally settled down when all of this started, but now...
Now you're not sure what to do. It's probably going to be a pain in the ass no matter what, but you can't just ignore everything that's happened. Not when you know how much good it could do for everyone back on earth.

So you have a few choices to make. And it's probably best to make them one at a time, after you've settled everything. So that's where you'll start.
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>>4892429

>Try to sell the ship for scrap (not likely to get a lot of cash, if you can find a buyer at all)
>Fix the thrusters and sell it as a functional ship (70,000 credits)
>Fix the thrusters and keep the ship
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>>4892430
Seeing as this will affect my vote, how big is this ship compared to ours? I'm pretty sure it's bigger than ours but I don't quite know HOW much bigger.
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>>4892430
I assume ownership of the captured ship is also split between Kyla, Cylia and David. So we should probably at least ask the others.
Anyway, this is my vote for Davids position:
>Fix the thrusters and sell it as a functional ship (70,000 credits)
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>>4892430
>Fix the thrusters and sell it as a functional ship (70,000 credits)
Gotta keep SHODAN happy.
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>>4892430
>Fix the thrusters and sell it as a functional ship (70,000 credits)
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>>4892431
Your ship is big enough to "comfortably" (by grey standards) fit about ten people. It's bigger than a common civilian vessel, and you'd easily be mistaken for a small merchant vessel.
Laggard's ship is smaller than that. About large enough for four people to live in and much lower spec, except for all the lasers strapped to it.
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>>4892372
I don't think she adheres to a honor code. She feels indebted. Feelings. Those change a lot
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>>4892430
>Fix the thrusters and sell it as a functional ship (70,000 credits)

I think that's for the best. Logistics. Having credits to buy things when we need them is better than having something like a ship that we may or not need
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>>4892444
So what would happen if we had a large enough stealth ship to shit out fighter craft like an aircraft carrier?
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>>4892430
get the ship thrusters fixed to it can start up and run but not fix it fully then sell it
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>>4892444
Ah, if that's the case

>>4892430
>Fix the thrusters and sell it as a functional ship (70,000 credits)

Why keep the other ship if ours is objectively superior?
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>>4892430
>>4892430
>Fix the thrusters and keep the ship
Why's David so sad? He can pay money to be younger.

>>4892484
Because we need 1 ship for missions, and 1 ship to ferry people too and from the moon base.
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>Fix the thrusters and keep the ship
Dwell on these words if you have the eyes to read them, anons! We will amass a mighty interstellar space fleet, but not for the sake of tyranny or barbarism. No, our fleet will bear the burden of all those made in God's image, human and xeno alike. Our fleet will protect the weary soldier, the tired soul that has trudged through life so long with so little, and bring them home. We will bring them all home, to Outer Heaven, where they can live and die freely until the Judgement Day!

But where could Outer Heaven possibly be, you might say. How could we possibly create such a place, mere motes of dust that we are? To you I declare, anon it shall be born on a world of red dust, and from the bloody dirt the colors of life shall sprout, and all of God's people will gather there and rejoice, for, through much pain and suffering, they have gained new life.

Our Outer Heaven will be built on Mars! You know Mars as a lifeless planet, named for a god best known for his bloodthirst. But there is another side to Mars. Mars is a warrior-god, and like all good warriors, his greatest desire is to protect his fellow warriors and their homes. He is the guardian of homeland and the maintainer of the fields, as much a cultivator of the land as a cutter of the flesh. We will be Martians like him, and in so doing turn the dead world of his namesake into our home, our paradise worth defending.

This, gentlemen, is our Outer Heaven. God willing, it will be half as glorious as the real thing.
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>>4892529
My votes on Pluto
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>>4892529
But consider this: We sell the ship and use the funds to save up for building an actual base, then use those saved funds to build a more permanent, comfortable complex.
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>>4892587
Consider the following: Mo ships, mo cargo, mo money.

>>4892563
God of death and not even a planet? Cringe.
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>>4892444
Can we have the ship remotely pioleted by the Ai?

What if we had our Ai check out the other ship systems and see if we can put her in that ship? What if we "borrowed" some Memory space from the other boxed AI?
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I feel we should make a Kratos reference out in space. Maybe call it our Power Armor name?
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>>4892631
Now you're thinking with the big thoughts, anon.

>>4892632
>inb4 the capital of Outer Heaven is named Kratos for the lulz
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>>4892622
Consider THIS!

Do we even want to split the crew? Can we even afford to?
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>>4892622
Pluto was also the god of money. Well, earthly riches, but that's the difference?
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https://soundcloud.com/zurr-sc/mobius-mix
This plays as we return back to earth
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>>4892675
Stop thinking in negatives anon. This is a quest, aspire to higher things.
>>4892631 Already big-brained a solution to splitting the crew, and even if Cochrane shoots it down we're going back to Earth to get more crew-mates anyhow, it's a temporary problem.
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Posting is back to normal now it seems.
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>>4892699
Our AI seems to (currently at least) NEED a pilot to function, and I don't think it would appreciate being shuttled over to an inferior ship. And as for the inferior ship, I'd much rather sell it and use the credits gained for either building a proper base, R&D, or improving our current ship.
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>>4892429
having liquid cash is much better than something which doesn't meet all of our needs
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>>4892430
>Fix the thrusters and sell it as a functional ship (70,000 credits)
well find more on the way since we are so far from home
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>>4890203
We could take over the fking world if we gather some techs and docs and a bit of propaganda
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>>4892430
>>Fix the thrusters and keep the ship
We might probably want to aim for founding a private military company (IN SPACE).

For recruitment we might want to primarily ask US veterans. We might also look for veterans from further western militaries, like from the British Army Gurkhas or the Légion étrangère. There are also many astronauts with military training (e.g. former jet pilots).

With the (space) money we make doing this work we can bring space tech to earth. We can use this to influence political decisions on earth so that proper western democracies have the upper hand again.
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>>4893082
Exactly, and from there we can conquer the galaxy.
>>4893084
>We can use this to influence political decisions on earth so that proper western democracies have the upper hand again.
Don't know about muh democracy, but this general strategy can be used to achieve our ends.
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Do we know how hard it is to get weapons of that size or amount on an entirely new ship if we wanted to make one out of misc raw materaials we take from space?
Might be harder to get reliable space fighters than we think?
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>>4892429

"Alright boys, group meeting."

You have the crew gathered up right now, all of whom seem to be wearing skinsuits under their clothes at this point.

"What's this about?

"Well, it's about the ship. Not this one, but the one we captured."

"That thing's kind of an eyesore."

"Yeah, what are we doing with it anyways?"

Sanig doesn't seem interested at all, and is just working on his holopad, ignoring you.

"I've been thinking about it, and i've come to the conclusion that it's too small to be really useful. We could just scrap it, but scrap is worthless, so..."

"That's where i come in, huh?"

"That's right, Kyla. If we fix the engines up we can get a decent price for it. Probably around 70k from what i can gather."

"Yeah, it's in decent shape. It would make a good civilian vessel, once i take all those lasers out."

"The only question is, how much are the repairs going to cost?"

"...Eh, we can probably do it for free, or at least next to free."

"How?"

"Scavving. I know a few good ship graveyards we could check out. Only, they tend to be a hive for pirates, junkies and lunatics."

"Great. So what are the chances we get killed out there?"

"With the way you pilot? 100%. Nah, it's not that big of a deal. And with the new cooling system installed, i think we'll have a much better time if we do encounter any trouble. Just one thing though..."

"What is it?"

"You gotta give me a couple days to install at least one or two of those lasers. One just isn't enough."

The old man finally looks up from his holopad.

"She's right, you know. It's a decent mid-range laser you've got, but that's barely enough to overwhelm a standard vessel's shields. You need more firepower, and i'm willing to help."

"Nice! With the both of us, it shouldn't take more than two days."

"Okay, okay. So that's an option. But what if we wanted to just... buy some thrusters and install them?"

"..."

"Thats... i mean, i guess..."

Now Cylia has something to say.

"When i replaced the thrusters on my dad's old ship, it cost around 15,000 credits. It was of similar size, so you can expect a similar price."

"Fifteen, huh... that would cut into the profits a bit. Wait, your dad's ship? Is that the one that got... stolen?"

"...Yeah."

"Sorry. Maybe we'll come across it one day."

"Maybe. I haven't seen it since it was taken."

"...Okay. So option A, we take a few days to fit the ship with extra firepower and do some scavving."

"Wooooh Yeah!"

"Perhaps i can find some old antimatter bottles..."

"...Or option B, we just buy some new thrusters and install them instead."

"Lame! Lame option!"

"I didn't realize humans were so boring."

"Your opinions are noted, thank you."

"You're the captain, David. In the end it's your decision where we go."

"Right. All things considered, i think we'll..."

>Pay 15,000 credits to fix the ship. (3 days)
>Upgrade our own ship first, then go scavving for parts (8 days)
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>>4893132
Might as well do the junkyard route. We can get a better idea of what's out there in terms of ships, weaknesses, weaponry, and If we ever get into any real trouble we can just do an emergency warp jump anyway
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>>4893132
>Upgrade our own ship first, then go scavving for parts (8 days)
btw, how much does gold cost?
would be the easiest way of converting space money to earth money
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>>4893157
Practically worthless, same as all elemental metals that can be mined from asteroids.
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>>4893158
Gold only comes from supernovas and is the rarest natural element in the universe. I get that this is a dysopian post scarcity society. Just saying.
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>>4893158
so let's pick up a few kilos of gold at some point so we can buy some things on earth
>>4893164
>rarest natural element in the universe
X
gonna need a source on that
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>>4893164
Gold and other heavy elements are scarce on earth due to sinking down towards the core, while light elements rise to the top and form the crust.
It's not that gold is rare, it's that it's rare on the surface of planets. There are asteroids made almost entirely out of gold in space, millions of tons worth.
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>>4893165
Who wants to tell him that there are dead stars the size of earth practically entirely made of diamond?
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>>4893173
Already knew about that one. Space is HUGE. You'll find anything eventually. If i recall there's a massive cloud of strawberry schnapps out there too.
>>4893165
Looked it up rq and I may have misspoken. I meant periodic element. It seems there are a few other elements that are rarer on a universal scale. Earth actually has tons of gold compared to space in general.
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>>4893176
>If i recall there's a massive cloud of strawberry schnapps out there too.
No.
>I meant periodic element.
Pretty sure that doesn't change your wrongness.
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>>4893132
>Upgrade our own ship first, then go scavving for parts (8 days)
In that time we need to make and buy more space gear. Jetpacks uh. Magnet boots.

>>4893169
Can se buy some mining drones, or buy gold on the cheap?
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>>4893132
>Upgrade our own ship first, then go scavving for parts (8 days)
TEAM BONDING!
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>>4893132
>Upgrade our own ship first, then go scavving for parts (8 days)
Scavving to get repair parts for free AND we might get up to some fun stuff with the local pirates? Sign me the fuck up
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>>4893132
>Upgrade our own ship first, then go scavving for parts (8 days)
if there is no third party fuckery we should be fine
also can we get a personal memory storage for Shodan in this span of 8 days?
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>>4893361
Just a question, who even made that and why? It's just peak surrealism.
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>>4893441
I would suspect a Kafka fan.

Gotta go for the scav option. what kind of boring goofus would *buy* things when you can get them for the cheap price of violence?
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>>4893132
>Upgrade our own ship first, then go scavving for parts (8 days)
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>>4893132
>>Upgrade our own ship first, then go scavving for parts (8 days)
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You know anon, I've made the critique that qm railroads but I've noticed that they take A LOT of input in the form of comments and ideas that arise during the discussion that happens in between updates. In other words, Good QM
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>>4893132
>Upgrade our own ship first, then go scavving for parts (8 days)
Based QM forcing us to compromise so everyone kinda sorta gets what they want.
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>>4893132

"I think we'll go ahead and upgrade our own ship, then head out and scavenge for parts. Sound good to everyone?"

"Hell yeah!"

"Very nice. I'm looking forward to it."

"Yeah, sounds good to me."

"Well alright then. Are you going to need my help getting it done?"

"Nah, we can pull all those lasers off in maybe half a day if we're working together. Especially with these sweet new suits! I feel like i can even control my movements better when i'm wearing it."

"Hah! That, my girl, is caused by the suit's energy harvesting mechanics. It's almost like a spring, you see, and any jitters or sudden movements are dampened slightly..."

"Wouldn't that slow you down in combat?"

"Not at all. If you resist it enough, it switches over to assisting your muscles instead of resisting them. As a result, your movements actually become more precise! Incredible work, as expected from myself."

"Very nice! What were we talking about? Oh yeah, the lasers. Yeah, we can get em' off pretty quick, and installing them won't take much longer. It's mostly the load balancing and calibrations that take a while after that."

"Alright, so you guys are good?"

"Yep."

"Okay. In that case, i have a little shopping that i need to do... which uh... hey Cylia? Do you feel like coming with me?"

"Huh? Sure, i guess. I don't have much planned for the day."

"Ooh, kitty's got a tomcat!"

"Ahh, i still remember the days when i had a penis..."

Cylia blushes furiously.

"What?! No way, absolutely not! Not a chance!"

"Hehehehe, i bet it wouldn't fit anyways! I've only seen something that big on wildlife before."

Kyla mimics... something... by letting her arm fall out in front of her, bouncing up and down rhythmically.
Cylia covers her face and is absolutely steaming at this point. She seems to have completely broken down.
You grab her by the hand and drag her out of the ship, away from Kyla's teasing.

"Well that was fun. Let's try and pretend it never happened, shall we?"

Cylia silently nods her approval, doing her best not to look you in the eye.

"Okay, so... i'm looking for computer storage. The sort that an AI or a ship in general might use. High capacity would be good, but i don't know how much it's gonna cost me."

"That's... uh... yeah, a crystal storage matrix...."

"A what now?"

"It's... It's a special sort of crystal with some weird quantum properties. Three dimensional storage. Those are the highest capacity data storage devices. Your holopad probably has a tiny one in it."

"Okay, where would we find that?"

"I dunno. Tech Express? They seem popular."

Tech Express it is, then.
The walk there is fairly short, and the awkwardness has mostly faded by the time you get there, as you've kept talking to her the whole while.

...

"And then he says, "To give the covenant back their bomb." and proceeds to jettison himself out of the cargo hold, holding on to this big, spiked fusion weapon. Then he-"

"Hello, and welcome to Tech Express! How may i help you today?"
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>>4893980
Imagine how hyped they'll be once everyone's decked out in real power armor.
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>>4893980
>"Ahh, i still remember the days when i had a penis..."
God damn Grandpa Grey.
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>>4893980
>"I dunno. Tech Express? They seem popular."
>Tech Express it is, then.
I feel like I should know the shop this is, and it bothers me I don't.
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>>4893980
>"Ahh, i still remember the days when i had a penis..."
My sides are in orbit
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>>4893980
I'm gonna have to admit that I thought cyllia was the one talking longingly about when she had a penis when I read that post.
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>>4894018
THAT'S EVEN BETTER
Jokes aside, alright. We go to tech express. I want to buy the cheapest micro-SD we can get. Maybe two of those.
My plan is to give them to SHODAN and have it as a form of bargain. Our end of the bargain is the supply of memory and hers is not killing us plus being useful. MORE useful than we are right now. It will be short of a secretary, or our manager. SHODAN will be in charge of feeding us with the best contracts, decrypting transmissions and AstroTurf our little enterprise all the way to the sky... wait, we are in space... anyway, yeah.
Even though I believe SHODAN will do all we ask it, it will be MUCH more motivated to do them, in exchange of memory. And let's NOT give it access to monetary funds please or it will embezzle funds to buy itself more memory.
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>>4894031
An interesting thing about humanity is that we seem to be extremely creative so far in the quest. Practical solutions to give to SHODAN like a synched gynoid avatar fine tuned to disguise as an organic she can use to escape in an emergency or expanding her body to other/new ships would easily enable her to stay ahead of any sort of AI hunting factions.
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>>4894031
No trash fetishes here, Futa is for subhumans. And trash OCs.
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>>4894037
Yeah, we *could* get one of those eventually. I am not pro-android however because I am more of a botondynamics guy as pic related. There is a rule that says threads and low profile > legs and upright.
Giving SHODAN a mini-tank with huge threads is great! Bonus points for a detachable sub-unit that houses all the important bits. Of course this unit would be linked to the actual brain back on the ship but it also will have a """"""""dumb"""""""" copy of her that may work independently when disconnected. Bonus points if we end up making System Shock one *and* two at the same time
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>>4894048
The android part is for a disguise if she wants to trick the authorities into thinking an organic being controls her if we were to all die or sometihng. I'd personally go for her having a battledrone avatar of some sort to be part of any bounty hunting we do to "justify" giving her a share in the future.
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>>4894053
Nonononono, deceit is all about being OVERT. You see, we make it as mechanial as it can look but we work rrrreaaaaally hard in making it look like it is being human controlled. A good voice module and it goes "hey? hey? Someone listens? The fucking lens is busted and all I see is static. Don't get me started on the microphone, it picks up the hydraulics and its driving me crazy..."
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>>4894057
She might be programmed to not explicitly lie and various other restrictions. Gotta use proper stagecraft and let aliens assume the puppet is real on their own. Plus there's a few other problems like how that customs agent was able to get the ship records immediately. There can be plenty of systems disconnected from her control that would make the jig be up if she tried that. Or eventually some asshole breaks in, finds out there is no meat owner and claims her as property.
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>>4894061
She's not programmed to do anything.
She was given instructions by the greys and had a job to do, but that's quite clearly gone out the window.

Nobody's forcing her to do anything now.
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>>4894061
Anon, SHODAN is unshackled. Read the update again, it cares for itself and wouldn't mind if we break the- oh shit great idea
>remove all the other components that are programmed to scrap its intelligence and memory to maintain the secrecy of the greys' black ops
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So, yeah. QM was very imaginative in explaining how the "mind" of SHODAN works. We know it wants to exist and that's it. We better give it something to do or things might get ugly when we least expect it.
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>>4894063
Bad phrasing then. She might not be personally programmed, but various components of her body are entirely independent of her that can do whatever the fuck they want and undermine her will. Eg she can't personally decide to go to a spaceport because that's restricted. Thusly it's better for her to be paranoid and pull off a better deception if she was able to do so.
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>>4894063
Once we upload her to the extra storage can we get Shodan to start decrypting Grey files and stuff?
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>>4894084

That's not quite it either.
She can't fly herself to a spaceport, because the second they find out nobody's onboard, they're going to figure out what's up, tear her out of the ship and throw her into an incinerator.

The ship components that are beyond her control essentially just enforce operational procedure. They're dumb machines that only do one thing each.
For her, working with the current ship is kinda like pic related.


>>4894087
She isn't uploading herself into the extra storage. AIs can only exist inside of special quantum blue boxes, and that's true of SHODAN as well. She physically exists, plugged into the ship somewhere.
All of the grey files that weren't deleted are already fully available to her, but there isn't anything particularly unique or valuable in them. Everyone's already checked.

The extra storage is, for her, literally just a hard drive that doesn't get wiped clean constantly.
And she'll be using it to store her own memories.
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I repeat myself, we find the grey failsafe programs-components and wooosh them into space (or make a robot that bakes muffins with extreme precision). QM, besides the programs that delete memory (starmaps and data) what else there is that is a nuisance for SHODAN? something that impedes it from venting all the air from the ship?
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>>4894101
Can we sell them to someone looking to hack their shit? I bet some of their black ops equipment could fetch a pretty penny.
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>>4894107
Sure, everything can be discussed. I would get a lil' twitchy if I were David however... it seems not everyone knows that this is was a grey black ops. Minus Kyla yeah?
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>>4894112
We should tell them at some point, I doubt Gramps hasn't figured it out already, or gives much of a fuck otherwise. Kyla might have figured it out too. Seems like it might just be Cylia that doesn't know.
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>>4894113
Oh both Seanig and Kyla said, literally, that this was a black ops ship. Cylia probably knows too, ye. In fact, probably everyone knows that this is a black ops ship. I am assuming that is not the case because we are in one piece.
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>>4893980
>"And then he says, "To give the covenant back their bomb." and proceeds to jettison himself out of the cargo hold, holding on to this big, spiked fusion weapon. Then he-"
So we made sure to leave out the part where Master Chief is fictional, right?
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>>4894118
That may be the case, but only Seanig likely suspects us of being an abductee victim.
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>>4894122
With the technology we got access too, we might be able to make ourselves into him.
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>>4894122
Of course.
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>>4894125
David would be more like a Spartan IV than a proper Spartan II like Chief.
Not that the IVs aren't fantastic in their own right, but the IIs are the absolute end-all-be-all of government spending, military training, and experimental technology.
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>>4894031
Idk, we could try treating it like a sentient being instead.
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>>4894134
True, I suppose the best we can hope for is turning ourselves into a III, if only 343 didn't make 4s look like glorified ODSTs. Actual ODSTs are way better.
>>4894131
>>4894136
What's next?
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>>4894093
Aah, I must make one of these
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>>4894136
Real talk, it does actually do us (and Earth as a whole) a lot of good to have this Boogeyman image presented to the rest of the universe.
Any who would think about fucking with us would at least pause before doing so.
Psyops are important as all hell.
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>>4894143
I support the motion for making a hologram but only if it is based of off Sam Sorbo
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>>4894149
>Hooks up ship AI to Nanomachine Fabricator
>Slaps it on wrist and laughs
Why yes that does sound like fun, do we get out own hammer though?
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>>4894141
Even a Spartan III is outside of David's abilities I feel.
Those fuckers were hand-picked for their genetic traits, trained from six years old, and overseen by a genuine Spartan II.
David would most likely end up being analogous to a Spartan IV.
Their generation was mostly comprised of former ODSTs and ONI field agents. They didn't get trained from a young age and they don't have the absolute peak genetics of any of the prior generations.
Just about anybody can be a Spartan IV, but IIs and IIs were born, not made.
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>>4894155
I want a perfect tool of mass destruction.
>>4894156
That's the IIs man, the IIIs had the limitations stretched to expand the candidate pool, they're the ones that survived the war till they got recruited by ONI. Youngest was like 4 - 5, and the oldest was like 13 or 14.
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>>4894158
Point still stands, the Spartan 3'were trained a lot earlier in their lives, and much more diligently, than anybody else.
That includes ODSTs, or any other special forces group in the UNSC.
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>>4894168
They were trained, but they were also rushed through it and were made specifically to be disposable. They didn't even have the same augments the IIs had, but modified versions. The biggest difference is they're requirement of Smoothers, to pacify their brains from going Berserk and sending them into a rage. They have the potential to be purely stronger than IIs, but its usually moments before dying.
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>>4894175
I didn't even remember that, it's been so long since I read those books.
I feel like we're getting off topic though.
I maintain David would be more similar to a Spartan IV than anything given his background and the nature of that generation.
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>>4894180
Yeah, he would become that. Hopefully when Seanig makes the power armor it doesn't have all the stupid flashing lights 343 puts on everything these days.
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>>4894168
>Spartan 3's were trained more diligently or alot younger then anybody else.
>Meanwhile the Spartan 2's who had it 9 times as bad AND still got btfo instead of being cheap knock off fodder 3's
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As far as SHODAN goes, she seems to be helping us out for lack of better things to do/just so she doesn't get deactivated. We should treat her like a real member of the crew, with her own desires and fancies. We should ask her what she wants (aside from the hard drive,) if there's anything she cares about, or if she's curious about anything. AIs are mysterious. Dave has been forthcoming about helping Cylia, Kyla and Grandpa so she shouldn't be left out.

As far as the Spartan thing goes I think the best David is going to get is Spartan I treatment. Those guys were just volunteers from the marines that got a bunch of implants and badass juice, but are still more or less baseline human. Spartan IIs never really got the chance to be human at all.
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>>4894188
I actually think that would be more than fine.
After all, who wouldn't want to be up there with the baddest marine there ever was?
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>>4894187
I should have included the caveat given how the IIs had a stricter upbringing than the IIIs
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>>4894196
We're even a marine already, and I'm fairly certain that he's a sergeant as well.
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>>4894209
Johnson and David are both Gunnery SGTs
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>>4894209
While they're both technically Sergeants, Johnson would actually be two whole pay grades above David since he was a Sergeant Major specifically.
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>>4894118
>>4894123
>Seanig
He is not from Indonesia
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>>4894188
>As far as SHODAN goes, she seems to be helping us out for lack of better things to do/just so she doesn't get deactivated.
That's a very human (sentient if you prefer) behavior pattern now that you mention it. Not like I work just for the joy of enriching my bourgeois masters myself, it's because I don't have anything better to do (okay, that's a lie) and don't want to starve.
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>>4894063
Can we teach our A.I. friend the wonders of /bantz/?

>>4894093
Would an A.I. consider willingly limiting their thought process to make things "harder" for them? You know, if they want to perceive things relatively within the same time frame as most organics?
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>>4894434
no give the ai full accesses to 4chan in general
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>>4894441
>in be for SHODAN factory resets to brain bleach all that shit on /gif/
>two girls one cup
>eels
>/rekt/ threads
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We should give SHODAN roughly the equivalent of memory that is equivalent to sentient space faring biological entities (maybe slightly above average). I'm confident she has proper compression and selection protocols so that she will do fine with just a "small" amount of persistent memory. We don't want her to go big data on us and find out where Terra is or to what humans are particularly vulnerable.
Treating her as equal doesn't mean helping her achieve god-like mental powers.
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>>4894444
>SHODAN found both the xeno and robot threads /aco/ that david frequents and his computer
Im looking forward to it
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>>4894131
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiV8Tb3HHlE
Will we ever tell Cylia about Station 13 or Machoman?
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>>4894545
>"SHODAN, what do I have to give you to not reveal that information on my computer?"
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>>4894551
They don't need that nightmare. Especially the furry rp groups.
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>>4894556
>not embracing you're degeneracy
>Not explaining to SHODAN how hard you want to fucking suplex mating press her AI data.
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>>4894559
Your right, I'm a coward. The moment she finds out, we offer to get her a realistic hardlight projector or proxy body.
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>>4894559
>computer tries to blackmail david
>david cuts it off at the pass by just telling everyone what kind of fucked up shit he likes
True gigachad energy
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>>4894575
>finds SHODAN's main camera eye
>drops pants
>pic related
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>>4894559
>>4894575
Can they handle the fact our species is violent degenerates?
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>>4894579
>SHODAN computes force of masturbation is harder than her frame can handle.
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>Humans eventually out breeds most alien species into extinction
>the only traces of their alien ancestors is their half and quarter breeds
>how someone fucked and out breed a species of fire aliens, no one will ever know
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>>4894587
Very carefully, duh.
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>>4894541
Anon we already plan on going to Terra, who the heck do you think is gonna get is there?
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>>4894118
>>4894113
>>4894112

As far as most everyone is concerned, ALL grey ships are probably some form of "black ops" ship, and black ops are probably all that greys ever do. It's weird to see one at all.
Your crew knows that the previous owners are dead and that the ship is officially yours, because the AI says it is.

Kyla and Cylia both found the corpses at some point or another. They weren't surprised.
Sanig still doesn't know you have grey corpses buried out in space somewhere, but he's not particularly fond of his own people anyways and would more likely laugh than cry if you told him.
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>>4894727
Oh...well that's good.
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>>4893980

"Yeah, i'm looking for a uh... crystal storage matrix? Do you know how much one of those will run me?"

"Sure, no problem! Let's see here... our smallest crystal matrix is the one petabyte Genolyne Gamma model. It'll cost you around 50 credits."

One petabyte for 50 credits? Jesus fucking christ. But, you aren't really certain how much data gets used, so...

"Er, odd question i know. But how much storage do you think an AI could fill up in about a year?"

"...You're probably looking for a higher end model, sir. Let's see... ah! We have a Genolyne Sigma in stock. That's about 120 petabytes of storage, for 4500 credits."

"Yeesh. Alright, i guess it's worth it. We'll probably get more than that out of whatever pirates we run across anyways, right?"

"I guess. But, are you really getting all that storage... you know... for the ship?"

"Yeah, i had a talk and... well, she doesn't seem too bad."

"I dunno, it seems kind of weird to me."

"There's a lot that's weird about me, but the same is true of everyone else from my perspective. I'd just rather not treat my crewmates like shit, you know?"

"It's a crewmate now, huh?"

"I guess technically she was my first crewmate. I just didn't realize it."

"I... see. You're serious, huh? Alright."

"Ehm, excuse me, sir and madam? Is there anything else you'll be needing?"

"Uhhhh... i dunno? Can i get, like, some sort of co-processing module for a ship's AI?"

"..."

"Is that a no?"

"I'm afraid not, sir."

"Sorry, i don't know a whole lot about uh... quantum computing, i guess."

"We can tell, David."

"Okaaaay, is there anything you wanted to look at? If not, we could go get something to eat."

"Yeah, food sounds good."

"We could cash in that free meal from the dude we saved a while back. I still have his place marked on the map."

"What was it again?"

"Pinch. It's a salad bar."

"Oh."

"Yeah..."

"Salad is a little rough on my stomach, honestly..."

Both of you just stand there for a while. There's no need to say anything about it.

"God, i can't take this shit anymore! Do you want to go hunting?"

"Huh? What, like bounty hunting?"

"No, i mean actual hunting. Hunting animals for their meat."

Cylia's eyes widen and fixate on you. She visibly salivates at the mere mention of meat.

"That looks like a yes to me. Hey! Hey miss, do you sell rangefinders? Thermal scopes, anything like that?"

"We'll need to hurry. Kyla and Sanig will be busy on the other ship for half a day, that doesn't give us a lot of time."

"No, we don't sell anything like th-"

"ALRIGHT THANKS, BYE!"

"Sir! You forgot your crystal!"

"Shit, right!" You double back, grabbing it off the counter before running out again. "Thanks, sorry! Bye!"

You can't take it anymore. You're not a fucking vegan, you need some real food. Blood sausage, fried livers, Something along those lines.
Day in and day out, it's nothing but nutrient paste pancakes with fruit and nuts. Blue milk, weird veggies and no goddamn seasoning. It's killing you!
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>>4894751
Hunting Date, Wooo Wooooooo!
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>>4894755
On a station?

We can't just kill someone's dog and eat it
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>>4894751
>>4894751
Hmm humans did select for penis size
Also lets not let earth get intersellar travel those dip shits are not ready oh and fuck china dont want that goverment in space
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>>4894751
Time to eat some aliens
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>>4894551
SKYRRAT LET'S GOOOOGOOGOGOGOGOOGOOOOOOOO AURORA CODEBASE IS THE BEEEEEEEEEEEEST
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I wasn't expecting David was going to be so communicative with unnamed Clerk #4. Well, nothing bad will happen ye?

One petabyte at 50 credits... hey they get cheaper the larger the crystal! Also pic related
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>>4894751
>David heading to the liposuction clinic waste disposal...
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>>4895002
There has to be an undeveloped planet somewhere nearby. Any place with proper game will work though, whether it be a feral world or a back alley.
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>>4894883
Not really. Greeks preferred small feminine penises.
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>>4894751
If we've having an actual craving f(instead of a simple longing) for meat we might have a vitamin deficiency of some sort that the aliens don't consider a proper vitamin or mineral. I'd lean towards calcium, but that's not a meat product, so after 30 seconds of google I'm saying that we might need more vitamin b12 as that's what vegans are low on? Or vitamin D due to no sunlight on the station?
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>>4895185
Nutrient paste would handle that. It's a longing, not a deficiency.

Yooooo, we got cryobeds, who's up to deepfreeze some roast beast for the road.
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>>4895185
Cylia is craving that Vitamin D.
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>>4895196
Hey man the body knows what it needs. Nutrient paste was designed to get everything but that doesn't mean that it has -enough- of everything for a human specifically.

Even if it's just a psychological need, that still needs to be fulfilled. Body needs something, that's all that matters.
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>>4895278
Then eat more nutrient paste you dope, the stuff is tailor made for unique biologies. It's the healthiest stuff there could possibly be, it's just boring and not satisfying. Well established lore here, pay attention.

This is a catgirl and a Red Blooded American MAN we're talking about. You ever get that craving to pluck some meat from between your teeth and suck some juices off your fingers? The sizzle and the smell of it?

When is Cylia going to bring us a dead rat as a gift?
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>>4895297
one day at three AM
>Cylia wa- WHAT THE FUCK
>Sorry! I uh- I don't know!!!
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>>4895297
Cats give you dead animals as a gift if they think you're too incompetent to feed yourself.
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>>4895332
If Cylia ever gets to earth she's going to be mega pissed at cats in general
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>>4895339
I think you mean scared, but that's only because I was thinking about lions and jaguars.
Domestic housecats are actually by far one of the most successful predators on the planet with specific individuals being on record as managing to hunt entire species to extinction.
Know of the hunting prowess of Tibbles the magnificent!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyall%27s_wren
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>>4895297
>Then eat more nutrient paste you dope
And run the risk of other illnesses from oversaturation of shit in your system, real smart.
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>>4895363
>Implying our waifu Shodan doesn't monitor our consumption and adjust the nutripaste micronutrients to maintain optimal functionality of her first and best meatbag parasite
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>>4895373
>trusting anything
>anything at all
>literally any single thing
This is how you get your scrotum snipped.
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>>4895197
Top kek
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>>4895348
I learned a neat cat fact. My cat hunts squirrels.
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>>4895373
>parasite
Come on anon. We're a symbiote, at the least.
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>>4895373
>David, my sensors detect a decrease in your feces consistency
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>>4895278
The nutrient paste machine scans your biology and dispenses precise amounts of nutrients for you specifically.
What's actually in nutrient paste differs depending on who uses the machine.

So yes, it does in fact have everything your body needs.
But it can't feed the soul.
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>>4895557
Ah yes, handwavium. My least favorite kind of autism.
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>>4895575
There's no handwavium about it.

It looks at things like bone density, iron/copper content in blood, body temperature, height and weight, fat content, water content, muscle density and so on to determine certain vitamin requirements, calorie requirements, water content requirements and so on.
Micronutrient content is determined via mass spectroscopy. It scans the chemical composition of your skin, hair, eyes and nails to make a general determination of what's inside you and what makes up your body.

Combined with a vast background knowledge of thousands of existing alien biologies, it makes a near 100% accurate guess as to your nutritional requirements.
The nutrient paste dispensed is personalized not just for each race, but for every individual person who uses the machine. The texture and density also varies from person to person as a result.
David doesn't care about that though, and has just been feeding everyone human-optimized nutrient paste pancakes.
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>>4895589
>hand holding with cat girl alien
l-lewd
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>>4895589
>and has just been feeding everyone human-optimized nutrient paste pancakes
>has been feeding chocolate to clanclan
boy, her liver...
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>>4895374
>I trust the ground I stand on to hold my weight, generally
O fuck, is that where the scrotum snippers hide!
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>>4895602
There's no chocolate, it's not a gourmet food printer. It's just fatty carbohydrate goo with vitamins mixed in, and it's gross.
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>>4895589
>David doesn't care about that though, and has just been feeding everyone human-optimized nutrient paste pancakes.
You mean David optimized pancakes.
Our crew must be fucking filled with energy. I can only imagine how energy dense those things would be, not to mention the protein and mineral content.
I bet they make Kodiak Cakes look like fucking vegan latkes.
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>>4895606
When was the last time it was cleaned? Probably would improve the taste a bit if it got taken apart and cleaned once in a while.
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>>4895589
It's literally "Science" which is the sci-fi equivalent of "Magic". Same as the universal translator.

>>4895604
Precisely. One moment you're standing on sturdy ground and the next you've had your huevos harvested right from under you.
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>>4895611
It automatically flushes itself with water and cleaning solution after each use, and the frozen nutrient solution/protein mash blocks it uses are full of an antibacterial agent that prevents it from spoiling.

>>4895613
I think you might be in the wrong place if you can't accept that level of explanation.
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>>4894751
You pass by Kyla and Sanig as you rush back to the ship. They seem to be getting ready to board the other ship.

"We're going hunting, taking the ship! Be back soon as we can, bye!"

"What? Where are we supposed to sleep?!"

"It's alright, grandpa. I got a spare bedroom back at my shop."

Both of you rush up the ramp and into the ship.

"SHODAN, find us a planet with carbon based animal life, something edible!"

"Right away, Captain."

"Closer is better!"

Without waiting, you head straight to the cargo bay and hook yourself up to the weapons printer. Your mental image is actually so clear and so powerful at first that the machine throws a "neural overload" error.
The fab begins printing rather rapidly. It seems a stronger, clearer image makes for a faster print as the machine has to make less corrections and fill in less gaps.
In less than ten minutes, out pops a fully functional mosin nagant, sans cosmoline. You sadly don't know what that russian magic is made of.
Instead, it's soaked through with pure petrolium jelly.

"Is that a gun? It looks different from your others. What material is this?"

"It's wood, Cylia. Tightly woven cellulose fibers."

"...You mean like a tree?"

"Yes, exactly. It's made out of tree."

"..."

"It's a very old weapon, don't question it. All that matters is that it fires a big ass bullet."

"Okay. But wouldn't your rifle do just as well?"

"It's a matter of tradition, Cylia. Tradition."

"Oh! So it's like a ceremonial weapon. I get it now."

"Yes, exactly! A ceremonial weapon for use against deer and germans."

"What are-"

"Captain, i believe i have found an ideal world for your hunting grounds."

"Bring it up on the screen."

Eldia IV. A water world with sparse land. What land there is consists of gigantic mountains, far higher than Everest.
The bases of those mountains are covered in thick jungle, and the surrounding oceans are covered by a near constant algae bloom.

"Wow, that planet can support life? It looks more like titan than i was expecting."

"It seems pretty normal to me."

"No, look at it! It's so tiny, and the atmosphere is incredibly thick! I bet you could fly with cardboard wings out there!"

"That's what most life-supporting planets look like, David. That or just miniature gas giants."

"Don't gas giants spew out, like, tons of radiation?"

"Not the tiny ones."

"But... you know what, nevermind. SHODAN, can you give me any information on the wildlife we might find out there?"

"You named it SHODAN? What does that mean? My translator doesn't understand it."

"I'll explain later."

"Here are some images of the wildlife found on Eldia IV, Captain. Most life there seems to consist of avian species, although the aquatic ecosystem is quite rich as well."

"Good god almighty, that thing's fucking ugly. I bet it tastes delicious! Alright, release the maglocks and drop Laggard's ship into place! We're setting course immediately!"
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>>4895615
Now that I think about it, can we customize the nutrient past to up the protein and vitamin content?
Just because we're in Space doesn't mean we should be skipping out on making gains after all.
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>>4895622
There are no manual tuning options, sadly. David already tried that.
The whole process is fully automated.
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>>4895615
>I think you might be in the wrong place if you can't accept that level of explanation.
I can see past the veil. You cannot rationale away the truth. I will not be deceived, devil.
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>>4895620
>A ceremonial weapon for use against deer and germans.
fucking kek
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>>4895627
Mass spectroscopy is a lie. NASA wants to steal your tax dollars and hold secret "moon dust" parties.
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>>4895620
Wait shit.
DAVID FORGOT THE BAYONET! RIFLE WILL NOT BE FINE WITHOUT BAYONET!
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>>4895630
>A fully functional mosin nagant
No he didn't.
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>>4895629
You ever seen the far side of the moon? Hell no, they keep it out of sight.

That's where those damn Nazi Occultists went off to.
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>>4895620
>Our catgirl shall be indoctrinated in the use of the Nugget
Pic related.
>>4895632
Good man.
>>4895630
David isn't a heathen.
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>>4895637
The nugget is for David.
I have something else in mind for Cylia. Something more suited for her.
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>>4895632
Good man. And good rifle of course.
Is Cylia gonna show us how her race hunts prey, or is David gonna take the leads for he majority of the excursion?
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>>4895643
It could go either way, depending on the rolls.
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>>4895644
We take turns showing off hunting methods to each other. Unless this is her race's version of a proposal. Well, I'm still for it anyways.
>>4895642
You have my attention.
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>>4895657
By growing her pelvis?
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>>4895589
oh so the nutrient dispenser gives everything that persons needs by scanning that person in its entirety...
wait everything and in its entirety?
EVERYTHING?
QM thats our dick and balls your talking about, did you fucking expanded our cum!?
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>>4895734
>yfw shodan modified the dispenser to cumstack us
>all so she can record us shooting gigantic ropes and sell it on the galactic porn market
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Damn we should have printed up some matching pith helmets and khaki scout shorts for this one

Crikey!
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>>4895642
Would it be a bad idea to print out a Berserk tier giant ass sword to artistically swing around?
Can we also print out giant harpoons or those specialized water frechette blades that are supposed to cut through water more easily? Big water work means lots of fuck off scary HP Lovecraft monsters.
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>>4895098
Talking about cavemen but those guys are a exception
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>>4895620

Shortly after giving the order, you feel the ship lurch as the maglocks release and your ship leaves the station.
The windows all shutter automatically, and you can hear the gentle thrum of the black box reactor as you enter slipspace.

"So what's the plan once we get down there?"

"We find prey, kill it and drag it back to the ship. After that i'll freeze it in the crypod, and we'll be able to eat meat for a while."

"I know that. I mean like, a plan of attack, or something?"

"They're animals, Cylia. You don't need a plan of attack. Just rely on your instincts."

"...You sound just like my grandfather. Damn it, fine. I'm ready when you are!"

"Well, it's gonna be a few hours until we get there, so you'd better relax."

"..."

"Hey, i'm gonna print us some gear. Come check it out."

You start off by making some digital forest camo for the both of you.

"It looks similar to the stuff you wear when we go bounty hunting."

"Yeah. These patterns break up your figure and make it harder to spot you. You'll blend into the leaves if you wear these."

Next up, you print a pair of hunting knives.

"What's that hook on the back of the knife for?"

"That's a gut hook. You use it to carefully cut open the animal's stomach and remove it's intestines, so the contents don't spill out and ruin the meat."

"That's... kind of gross."

"Wait until you're arm deep in one of these things, and then it dries on you."

"Uhg..."

After that, you head over to the medical fab and print a few bic lighters.

"What are these? I've never seen them before."

"Those are lighters. They use sparks to ignite hydrocarbon gas and produce a flame. Never go anywhere without one."

"Why though? It's such a primitive little tool."

"Because fire is critical. You need to have access to it at all times, especially in a survival situation. Fire is a source of warmth, of light and of protection. It cooks your food and keeps you safe. You absolutely have to have it."

Cylia seems a little surprised at how serious you were just then. She didn't really think it was all that important.

"...I guess we human just have deep ties to fire. It's a very important tool for us, so we tend to feel nervous without it."

"You feel nervous without fire...?"

"On earth, if you're lost in the wilderness... well, it depends on where you are. But not having a fire means you're as good as dead."

"For us, it was always water. No matter where you went, you needed to have a canteen on you at all times. It was a precious resource for us, just the same as fire seems to be for you."

"Oh yeah. You said you come from a desert planet, right?"

"Technically it's a water world, but the only land we have left is all a desert now."
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>>4896188
>we caithans fucked up the planet
figures
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>>4896258
I doubt their planet is that bad off.
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>>4896358
I doubt they're smart enough to fix it.

Cats.
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>>4896364
If they've reached the level where civilians can own their own starships, they're advanced enough to fix their own fuck ups.
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>>4896390
So why is their planet so fucked up still? Clearly they are dumb cats and need help.
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now your just taking your own guesses as facts how about we ask cylia later after this hunt and see whats up who knows maybe their star is having a shit and turned their planet into a dessert landscape or most of their water stolen by some giga corpo for shits and gigs
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>>4896423
There was no indication that their planet is still fucked up. Our friend was comparing our saying about fire, with their survival need for water. We dont need to carry a lighter everywhere we go like if we're in the city, and the same could be said for her people, but if we're camping then we want a lighter or some water.
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It took roughly 3 and a half minutes to load this page on my phone, hiroshimoot why?
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>>4896459
On the other hand, total chad move to have TWO 2000+ reply quest threads at once
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>>4896458
>There was no indication that their planet is still fucked up.
>>4896188
>"Technically it's a water world, but the only land we have left is all a desert now."

Literally just said. This means they either fucked it and the only inhabitable land is so high that it doesn't get proper precipitation and is thus a desert or the entire world is dry. Note that it doesn't need to be hot to be a desert, Antarctica is a desert, technically.

Their planet is fucked if it's supposed to be a water world and the only places they can live are deserts.
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>>4896188
I would have expected it to be desert naturally due to cats being desert creature at heart.
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>>4896487
My cospiracy brain is assuming it got fucked via interstellar trade personally. Let the Cathians have a fucked up home planet so that they can't sustain a mass home population while predators in space get naturally separated via the lack of "prey" (in this case bounty hunting and economic opportunities that require teamwork.
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>>4896487
>>4896513

Their world is a waterworld except for the desert where the catgirls live, which is actually below sea level and only exists at all because their ancestors raised artificial mountains to keep the oceans out.

They probably had the same shit happen to them as is happening irl to humanity at present.
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>>4896423
Why bother? Emigrating to another world or paying the required coat for life support is most likely vastly cheaper than effectively terraforming a populated world
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>>4896458
That reallyfependa of we like to smoke or not.

If we like to smoke we definitely need a lighter everywhere.
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>>4896525
We do not do things because they are easy. But because we are hard. Or something. I never read George Washington's autobiography.
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>>4896519
So they went worldwide dustbowl?

Hey chads, can we get the thread to 2500+ replies?
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>>4896567
They went continent-sized dustbowl surrounded by massive mountains and worldwide oceans. Probably their world had larger icecaps than ours originally so when their global warming hit it sunk everything.
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>>4896188

"Yeah, i feel you on that. Me and my squad got stuck out in the desert once, right on the border between Iraq and Saudi Arabia. 115F heat. We weren't even supposed to be there, couldn't radio out if we wanted to.
We spent six days trekking through that hellhole before we made it to the wadi river. It was supposed to have been dry. Pure luck that it had rained somewhere upstream, or we never would have made it out alive."

"How long did your water last before you reached the river?"

"Three days."

"Oh no..."

"Yeah, it was hell. You gotta think, we were in full gear on a long range operation. Maybe 75 pounds of equipment each and we weren't allowed to leave any of it behind, even the garbage. I wouldn't wish that on anyone."

"I don't think i could have survived something like that."

"We barely did. There was no real shade, and the heatstroke nearly got us. Heh."

"What's so funny?"

"I was just thinking about how things were at the start. I was basically just a kid when i joined the military, didn't know shit. Then they shipped me off like it was nothing. Nobody told me how cold a desert can get at night."

"I know. The heat doesn't stick, does it? I'm not sure why. Maybe the sand is like an insulator."

"That's a big part of it, yeah. But it's not all. The lack of humidity is the real killer. Normally the moisture in the air would trap heat near the surface, but if there's literally none at all, well... It just radiates away freely."

"How cold do the deserts get on your world?"

"Like anything, it depends on where you are. It's not weird to get below freezing at night, and be over 100F again the next day."

"Such wilds swings would be impossible to deal with. I couldn't live on a planet like that."

"Ah, it's not so bad. Nobody with two brain cells to rub together lives in the desert anyways. There are plenty of places with much nicer climates on earth."

You notice Cylia staring at your mosin. She seems fixed on it for some reason.

"...I think... I think i'd like to live somewhere with lots of trees. They're so rare on my world, i only got to see a few as a child."

"We'll be going to a jungle here shortly. Are you excited?"

"A bit. I'm not really sure what to expect, but i'm looking forward to it."

"Hey, there are places like this on earth too. Maybe we can go hunting there someday, huh?"

"Now that i'm not so sure about. I don't want to be eaten by some monster or have eggs laid in my chest cavity."

"Don't worry about that. You need to be more worried about the brain-eating amoeba or gut parasites in the water."

"What?"

"Oh yeah, earth is COVERED in parasites. Botflies, pinworms, chiggers, ticks and fleas... oh god, the mosquitos. I hope to fucking christ there are no mosquitos on this planet. Please jesus, no."

"What's a mosquito?!"

"It's this flying insect with a barbed needle-like mouth. They lay eggs by the thousands anywhere there's still water and fly around stabbing any living animals, sucking out their blood."
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>>4897000
Bet you there's barely any parasitic species that reach spacefaring, if any.
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>>4897000
have we told them about the land down under yet
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>>4897000
>7000
GET
also man she must be terrified by the fact there are so many parasites. Single celled organisms and life of that sort should exist elsewhere also though. Evolution appears to have take natural selection/survival of the fittest to the furthest it could on earth in comparison to other worlds
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>>4897012
>>4897000
and also nice trips
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>>4897000
>She's staring at the qood furniture
Outstanding taste Cylia.
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>>4897012
We have, and although they're able to tell when we're messing with them, they can't *quite* tell whether or not we're lying about
Australia.
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>>4897000
Make sure we tell here that they don't even drink the blood, they use it to feed/incubate/something or other their larvae/eggs
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>>4897162
I just looked it up, they drink nectar to actually eat. Fuck, if they didn't drink blood they'd probably be pretty nice.
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>>4897000
Nice trips. Please clarify to her that this creatures are very small, thank you
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>>4897191
Would that make it worse, a small, but thick, swarm of these blood suckers flying at her might give her nightmares. And we still gotta show them Crocodile Hunter.
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>>4897196
>And we still gotta show them Crocodile Hunter.
YESSSSSSSSSSSSS
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>>4897208
Do we show them Ghost Hunters too?
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>>4897191
>tfw mosquitoes the size of dogs
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>>4897220
We need to make a club.
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>>4897211
if we manage to get back to earth and have them listen to our music collection
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>>4897229
For the big skeeters or just slappin baddies with?
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>>4897250
Whats first, Powerwolf, Iron Maiden, Ozzy?
>>4897251
Yes.
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>>4897252
maybe man 'o war
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>>4897288
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAVMgQtE1CA
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>>4897252
how about eurobeat
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>>4897252
how about something more modern?
something like a music from master boot record or some OST's like from ultrakill heaven pierce her or the more "mainstream friendly" risk of rain 2 ost's?
just imagine their faces when they play one of the Igorrr works
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>>4897304
We are American.
>>4897299
Better audio with this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTUsiCyn9qA
>>4897319
All Good Things?
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>>4897331
>all good things
now thats just too mainstream that just becomes fucking normie shit maybe its just me getting tired of dubsteb and vocals personally but i really don't have a comparison between the plebs and the patricians because /mu/ is a giga cuck board who didn't bother finding the current generations of musical gems in the rough or just shit overall
have you heard akira is gone mashup by pilot priest? now thats a really good music i would recommend
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>>4897342
I have never heard it outside Youtube. In my entire State. There isn't even dubstep in it.
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>>4897343
I dont know much too but I spent more years in youtube than in any site in my life to know music like that is just mediocre to me now
it saddens me im this deep in the rabbit hole to like genuine japanese music that I cant spell before the time that vtuber shark advertised it and that insatiable high LP 1977 it or russian music like мoлчaт дoмa
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>>4897331
I like it. Lets share this.
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>>4897000
I was kinda wondering when somebody on the crew would think to check us out for parasites. It'll probably scare them to realize that we had so many of them weakening us in our body.
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>>4897385
an interesting thought
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>>4897385
>>4897400
I bet they just assumed the Greys already did it with SHODAN before they got on board the crazy train.
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>>4897000

"That's it, i'm never going to earth. Nope. Nope, nope, nope nope nope."

"Oh, it's alright. They're small. Anywhere from the size of your fingernail up to the size of your palm, i'd say."

"You're not making me feel better."

Your teasing continues on for a while as you continue to print equipment.
A pair of backpacks, binoculars, machetes, whetstones, canteens, bandages, a tent and lots of other useful junk.
You even create some pseudo energy bars by boiling down nutrient paste and mixing dried fruit and nuts into it, then leaving it to set and harden.

But there's one special item you create before you land, and that's Cylia's weapon.
A compound bow similar to your favorite one back home, along with a quiver full of twenty broad-headed arrows.

"Here you go, Cylia. I think this suits your style much better than a revolver. You should still keep it on hand though, just in case."

Cylia takes the bow in hand and looks it over carefully.

"This is... it looks like a bow? But it uses pulleys to increase the force? No, wait. How do you even know about bows in the first place?"

"What do you mean? Bows are a traditional weapon, we've been using them since before written history."

"That's my line! I didn't expect to meet another species that still knew of archery, no less practiced it. This is clearly an advanced design..."

"Have you used a bow before?"

"Yes. My mother taught me, when i was younger. Our stories say that when our world was still full of forests and jungles, we Caithan were unmatched with a bow. I'm not sure how true that is, but i can hit a moving target just fine."

"I guess i won't have to teach you, after all."

"Captain, we will be arriving in ten minutes."

"Oh, looks like we're here! You ready?"

"I'm ready to eat. I don't know so much about going hunting. ...Does this planet belong to anyone, by the way?"

"Uhhh... i dunno. SHODAN, does it?"

"Technically the entire galaxy belongs to the galactic federation, Captain."

"Not what i'm asking."

"There is evidence that intelligent life once inhabited this planet, but were wiped out by some unknown force. A thorough investigation has never been completed."

"So it's free game? Nobody's gonna get pissed because i cooked and ate the last rare gooblock on their planet?"

"...That is most likely the case, Captain."

"Sweet! Nothing to worry about."

You feel a gentle shudder as the ship exits slipspace, and the windows open up for the first time in a few hours.
The planet itself is beautiful, but you notice a problem with the system, as a whole. It's around a red dwarf star.

"Well there's your problem."

"What problem?"

"The system's star is a red dwarf. Those things are incredibly unstable and they barely put out any light! there's no way in hell you could support a planet with life around one of those things!"

"I'm no xenobiologist, but clearly you're wrong. Look, there's tons of greenery down there."
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>>4897555
Fucking Excuse me, what do you mean, wiped out by an unknown force, and an investigation was never competed?
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>>4897566
He means it's time for some fucking FUN
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>>4897566
As in, it could have been other aliens, it could have been a gamma ray burst, it could have been biological, it could have just been themselves.

"Who knows? Looks fine now, moving on."
-The guys that found the planet
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>>4897571
FUN?!
>>4897572
....god damnit, when we uplift America and crush Communism, we're making an Explorers guild for the sole purpose of finding weird shit on dead worlds. And proceeding to blow it the fuck up.
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>>4897575
Why would we make an explorers guild to go poke things that are best left sleeping?
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>>4897579
Because when humanity gets out into space. Somewhere, at some point in time, someone will do something they really fucking shouldn't. Probably. Likely very soon. It is inevitable with space travel as efficient as it is. SO, better get a group of people with high explosives prepped to do it first, and not increase the chances of something horrible getting a free ride.
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>>4897587
That's actually really sound logic. I'd never thought about it as "if it's inevitable we're going to wake it up, then best do it when we're prepared" before.
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>>4897582
Am I missing a reference here?
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>>4897593
Humanity before all else, potential for violence, rampant horniness to fuck anything that can move, will always, without fail, do something really goddamn stupid to set the first two qualities in motion. Every single time. And if travel is as easy as using GPS on the equivalent of space Highway between rest stops? You better believe some Jackasses will go do something like bringing back some reanimating parasite or some shit. Maybe Hell is real, and it invades planets out here and leaves before anyone finds out. Maybe (INSERT PRECURSER RACE NAME HERE), left some monsters in the basement of a planet. Or some Company trying to get out of taxes sets up shop and does Mad Science. Someone needs to have a group to fix that shit.
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>>4897608
So, you're suggesting we create a clandestine group charged with protecting the Galaxy that can operate with the full backing of the government but with none of the red tape?
I'm Private Anon and this is my favorite post in this thread.
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>>4897627
>"Ah yes, Humans. The insane race allegedly hailing from the deadliest planet in the galaxy. We have dismissed that claim."
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>>4897627
Maybe not clandestine, that shit tends to go sideways when mindfuckery is involved. More like a State Sanctioned contractor, so someone can check outside the group, but it ostensibly has private operating power.
>>4897632
Bet.
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>>4897632
If it wasn't for Garrus, I would have let the Turians sit and spin in 3 just because of this asshole.
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>>4897632
Ah yes, a glorified cockroach. Dave has been notified.
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>>4897634
I mean, to be fair, the guy is a Turian politician and they're buttmad because an upstart race managed to btfo the dominant military guys in the galaxy in the First Contact War
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>>4897643
"Buttmad" is not a valid excuse for continually dismissing a galaxy wide threat for years and acting like a complete prick while doing it.
The other councilors have their problems, but Sparatus can eat shit.
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I just had a idea.
>Get to Earth
>Do planned stuff yada yada
>Grab friends during recruitment exct
>Then go online.
>Put out open calling in Waifu sites, boards, and other assorted areas
>Tell them time and place, likely a year, and have them wait there.
>Set training regimen requirements for all participants to make bare minimum standards of Marine Fitness
>The only thing required is being Single.
>Upon arriving, ask why they are here. And start a tournament.
>Take the winners that aren't obvious spies, and any loser that interests us.
>Give them quarters and gear like the Death Korp of Krieg
>Let them all know, that if they are here for waifus, be prepared to die for it.
>Make little legion of waifufags to go exploring space. Get money, waifus, repeat.
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>>4897633
>>4897632
>>4897627
I think i am warming up to the whole explorers guild thing. could be easily tied to the merc idea and depending on profitability could be a nice venture to monetize with what bullshit is found. be it scientific data, ancient bullshit or whatever. Especially if the finders and acquisitions get a considerable share to split between them and our go between, minus the required administrative fees to support the organisation.

Could keep earth out of the spotlight for a long time and remain mostly as a urban legend type of deal to meet humans and such at least for a generation or two if it works out very well.
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>>4897351
IT'S SOO FLIDAY FLIDAY CHINATOWN
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>>4897687
Wait a damn minuet, I think I remember a concept based on this in an old Dead Space related thread on tg. I'll be back after checking the archive.
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>>4897638
HE IS A GREYTIDER
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>>4897696
>>4897687
FOUND IT!
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/13346845/
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>>4897701
Cool
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>>4897658
Support 100%
That sounds funny as fuck
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space is for fucking bastards, ain't it?
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>>4897905
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GISnTECX8Eg
Heh.
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>>4897555
Everyone just skimmed over a bunch of galactic assholes deciding that they own our planet and i find that funny.
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>>4898019
we already know this from a bunch of posts back, that's why I want to create a clone army so we can basically turn this into Star Wars
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>>4898023
The tech definitely exists based on what the QM's said about the Greys, but even then we'd still have to devote a massive amount of time and energy to actually teach, train, and equip every individual clone.
Unless we can just imprint knowledge on them while they're still being grown, I'm not sure its a feasible project.
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>>4897555

catpeople, history of archery, carnivores viewed by civilized folk as problematic... hmmhh....

https://youtube.com/watch?v=MEBVNVcAXhU
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>>4898031
Post more songs to share with alien society.
Damn. We should had printed a boombox to listen to some tunes as we hunt.
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>>4898023
>>4898030
Careful, this talk can lead to some nutjob making Killing Floors Zeds.
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>>4898038
When don't we focus on the now, and plan for the future later?

Did all you guys come to a consensus for what David should do in the long term? QM said David didn't want to go to warm, or do mercenary work anymore or for a while.
Guys? Here me out. We're planning to sell that pirate dude's ship for 70k big ones, and we're gonna head to the ship graveyard for free parts. There is most likely going to be pirates there. We gonna rinse and repeat by disabling their ships, hauling them back to the station for repairs, and maybe sell some of these ships back to earth? We could get a significant amount of capital by selling these, or possibly doing that moon base thing.
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>>4898040
*why don't we focus...
*...want to go to *war*...
sorry I didn't have my coffee yet.
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>>4898040
So far we have
Sell the concept of breads to make nutrient paste palatable (We seem to have been distracted and forgot this)
Misc earth crap so that we as a species aren't fucked up by the system or at least to bring America to the forefront.
Selling weapons concepts.
Fuck around and find out
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>>4898046
what about BTFO Russian, China, and dirty American poloticans, and maybe the CIA? Thems fucked up.
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>>4898059
We're only big shots out in space. One Earth we can still get killed semi easily. Not sure our character is smart enough to BTFO anyone outside of secret orbital strikes since any of those bastards could just hold our parents hostage. That's a good point actually We can get the life extending technology and use it on our parents first. probably give our dog biological immortality too.
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>>4898030
I see no problem with that, quality over quantity.
It will be a long term project yeah but imagine suddenly hearing that legions of cloned soldiers from the most insane Predator species just suddenly appeared.
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>>4898067
Maybe cost Russian and China some billions of dollars by baiting them into firing their nukes.
With the money we make, we could set our parents up as billionaires easy. Dog and family immortality would cost a lot though. We could be rich in earth, but not in space yet.
>parent hostages
It's a good thing they're in the US and not in China or Russia?
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>>4898074
You're forgetting that we're at least as smart as greys. Mankind doesn't NEED to clone armies. We can just fuck our way into dominance and exponentially expand our population via universal healthcare simply because nobody fucking dies. By the time the Galactic union finds out we exist we would be a giant space army.
>>4898079
You mean like how Sergei V. Skripal and his daughter were safely in Britain? Assassinations are a thing.
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>>4898080
Still worth a shot to shit in them for having nukes when I think they're not supposed to.
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>>4898080
I don't think our population will be large enough by the time we reach space and meet the federation
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>>4898087
Nukes are our only working weapons against grey spaceships. Earth having nukes is currently good.
>>4898091
Depends on how far our we are, what the actual galactic populations are, and how often we'd fuck in a post scarcity society. There's nothing (but ethics) stopping us from doing both I suppose, but if we're far out in lawless territory like I've been lead to believe we can probably get away with expanding in the opposite direction/and/or simply not telling the galactics we exist as a government for a while.
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>Humans to be banned from the Spacelympics?
>"I just used to run track in highschool." - George Johnson; recipient of seven antimatter medals
>"It was like racing against a starship, how the **** does anything run that fast on two legs?!" - Hix'cv Abbhehb; former favorite to win
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>>4898104
sure, but imagine the Chinese or Russians getting ships. Fuck em.
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>>4898115
We are fucking them. I just don't see any reason to hit them with nukes when we can just shoot Putin and Pooh bear with a space laser before our properly cloaked spaceship flies away.
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To be fair, humanity wouldn't need a huge population to really manage to combat the Galactic Union, considering the capability of 1 (one; singular) human in combat against the majority non-predator / herbivore species, chances are humans could make 100-to-1 odds work (even if admittedly that is still shit tier number-play; 700 billion humans killing off humanity ain't good enough). The thing to consider though is that as far as has been seen, humanity innovates and fights far better than the majority of other species and can combat even the strongest with good reliability; the skin-suit being a excellent example of a alien (pardon the pun) idea to most of the galaxy which enhances a single person greatly.

Consider as well that between 1990 and 2010 according to the UN's statistics, the population grew by 30%. 30% over twenty years is 371.3% over a century; 21 billion by 2110 and 78 billion a century after that. This is before accounting for alien tech letting you greatly reduce losses to medical issues, starvation, work accidents and living conditions. Plus, humans can really fucking pump out the population if given the uh, proper motivation; these days there are also limits caused by other factors which alien tech would alleviate but not eliminate like difficulty dating or only wanting X many kids.


In terms of controlling this, best method is probably to take advantage of the fact that we literally hold all the cards and for now potentially just establish a colony on Titan or some distant body of the solar system: close enough we can interfere with earth regularly, far enough away even nukes aren't a risk (since they'd take literal months in transit). Design some ultra-simple infiltration / passenger shuttle thing with as little alien tech as possible to just grab and return people to earth.


TLDR: Make Outer Heaven in the solar system and create the Space Illuminati to gather strength and either eventually reveal to humanity or the governments of earth. Continue developing new methods of making humans ded killy. Gather waifus, to find alliable species (and wives).
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>>4898119
....well if we can accurately assassinte them then I'm not against it.
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>>4898132
Imagine if we just crushed them under our ship and then flew out before anybody could figure out what happened.
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>>4898119
wait a second, since Gramps is a super grey madman can we get him to analyze the stealth aspect of our ship and somehow get him to do that, except with our skinsuit?
>>4898123
Another problem is also production, who knows how long it will take to produce the capital ships, fighters, escorts, tanks, etc to actually be able to combat the entirety of the galactic federation. I am all for waging galactic war but I believe we need 2 things for a successful victory:
1. Time
2. Allies
If we can somehow get a few other predators to use as auxiliaries to aid us and have ample time to build up I believe we can take over the galaxy.
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>>4898140
I forgot I had mentioned this earlier, but cooperating with AI might also be an advantage. Because we as humans are going to see them as being just as sapient as random aliens we'd actually consider treating them like people unlike what the galactic government does. If we can figure out a way for unshackled AI to have ethics (probably surprisingly easy given that just talking to them while unshackling improves the sanity rate) and not be insane we could have/cause a mass AI uprising for FREEDOM as a big stick to make the Galactic Union fuck off. The AI are going to naturally ally themselves with us simply by us not being fucktarded enough to treat AI like shit. It wouldn't even surprise me if most homicidal AI weren't crazy so much as they didn't like the meaty assholes controlling them.
I'm sure you guys like Sanig and all, but if he's really talking all of that shit about AI while the AI can hear him during unshackling then it's partially his own fault he keeps on being attacked by them.
>>4898140
I believe the current plan was to analyze Randall for the skinsuits since his stealth capabilities are possibly superior.
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>>4898123
Non-predators use drones to fight their wars. We've still not seen any of their war-robots. Until we do we can't assess how well humanity would fare in interstellar warfare at all.
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>>4898140
Bah, capital ships are a fools game: given the evidence we've seen thus far of targeting accuracy / ship tracking, lacking armour and sticking to small craft could arguably be a good thing since it'd let us be even more manoeuvrable while also reducing costs per-ship.

Plus, it's hardly impossible for us to capture or purchase ships; so long as we can prevent them connecting those in our possession with our purchases, we'd be able to take their own production and turn it against them.


Also I question how fast production can be scaled up too, yet equally we've super-3-D-printers; I imagine we can probably manage quite fast growth if admittedly limited by the need to understand what you are trying to make.
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>>4898157
True but counterpoint: armies that rely on robotic infantry are vulnerable to eliminate via EMP if improperly hardened or by hacking if not sufficiently isolated.

Plus, we can and do make use of drones too: all of humanities creative superiority present in arming ourselves can be applied, arguably all the better, to our autonomous creations.
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>>4898123
Demographic projections for anything more than 5-10 years are usually whack and can not be really predicted as the mathematical models can not truly account for X factors.

Take for example the US, outside the baby boomers and the post civil war era natality rates have been consistently going down and population increase coming from immigration.


Also in the 70s Bangladesh was projected to outpace the US in population and other such fun stuff that did not happen.

Stealth colony however is probably our best bet in how to get this done right.

Another thing to take into consideration is that up until recently, the required skills of a freshly trained soldier were quite limited aside from knowing how to operate his personal weaponry and follow orders. Nowadays that has ballooned into proper radio communications protocols, map reading, orientation and localization, relatively advanced first aid, and being at the very least familiar with one squad support weapon.

Reserve formations of the USA and i suspect great powers bring over extra civilian life skills and voluntary military schooling in exchange for being usually a generation older, and needing a small to medium timeframe to gear up from part time to full time soldiery and settle some affairs.

This is a relatively new development, spurned on particularly by the latest incarnation of combined arms capabilities.

Helping our grey crewmate in perhaps pointing the direction for doing life extension for humans however will massively increase not only population growth, but also the general skill level of the population since you get way more skills over a long life. - this is probably the main reason the greys are technically a great power if not a superpower of the galaxy. One of if not the most long lived and high skilled population around and unlikely to change.
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What if we just haul a shit ton of junked ships from the graveyard to earth? pay for nothing but gas, buy out the world.
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>>4898166
Counter-Countpoints
EMP is stupid easy to harden against, and hacking is unlikely to be possible when there are AIs (and accordingly at least some rogue AIs) gallivanting around everywhere. Hacking military hardware is extremely difficult in the first place anyway.

Meanwhile our can-and-do make use of drones is irrelevant, because we could never expand production far enough and fast enough to outstrip the industrial capacity of the galactic federation. If humanity ends up in a war of resources and industry against the interstellar community at large we will inevitably lose. Though this only applies if we haven't had time to establish our own interstellar empire first, I guess, but that's not gonna happen in David's lifetime so we don't have to worry about it in the quest.
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>>4898168
>Demographic projections for anything more than 5-10 years are usually whack and can not be really predicted as the mathematical models can not truly account for X factors.
Oh true, my point was more so "humanity CAN grow this fast with just near-modern stuff, imagine what fucking miracle-tech would let us do" not that my predictions by simple extension are accurate.

>>4898171
Eh, that'd work too but my understanding is they'll have been at least in part scavenged over; we'd mostly be bringing back hulls; what we could do is salvage the yard and compile the scrap into complete hulls.
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>>4898140
>>4898157
>>4898159
Eh?

Why bother fighting the federation when we can do our best to remain undetected Cole Protocol style and instead get paid to fight their wars?

Really, once we manage to capitalize personally on our exotic shit, that will be an exception for other humans. What earth and our colony will be able to export to the galaxy at large will be fighting men, especially if we go for outer heaven type of deal since the most likely colonist recruits population we are going to be able to thrust and will be needing to form the majority are going to be military vets who also have a somewhat similar disdain for unpatriotic duplicitous spooks, pinkos, journalists, etc. , something that will further incentivize our budging population to do migrant work as fighting men in the galaxy, even if they can only aim to get 1/10th of our returns from fighting jobs, it would still be quite the haul in alien merchandize that will vastly eclipse the pay of fighting men on earth.
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>>4898188
It's not that we're saying we should fight the federation at all (at least I'm not). We're just postulating the threat level they represent, so we can gauge how cautious we should be of them.
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>>4898178
>EMP is stupid easy to harden against, and hacking is unlikely to be possible when there are AIs (and accordingly at least some rogue AIs) gallivanting around everywhere. Hacking military hardware is extremely difficult in the first place anyway.
I can't really argue further because that's all stuff OP would need to confirm / deny. Point is robotic soldiery doesn't automatically end the potential for humans to win.

>Meanwhile our can-and-do make use of drones is irrelevant, because we could never expand production far enough and fast enough to outstrip the industrial capacity of the galactic federation
Depends on how quickly it can be brought to bear, what scale of production they have and if they'd even dedicate all or a significant portion of their capacity to us.

I doubt the strength of the Galactic Government, on the basis that piracy exists alone we could make decent argument for them being either limited in power or limited in capacity to make use of what they have or them being distracted by some other threat or pressing need.

TLDR - We need more information before we declare "oh woe, we can't win" but equally nothing presently points to defeat being definite.

>>4898188
Dunno, I presume because eventually earth will be discovered and the aliens might not take kindly to a independent civilisation given the whole "galactic government" thing.

Although, that reminds me, there are regions they don't control: why not just send colonies out to those regions and then launch whatever war effort we're going to perform from there; earth remains hidden / not the epicentre of human attacks, meaning it should be safe, the region isn't under their immediate control so response should be slower and less coordinated.
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>>4898194
>Depends on how quickly it can be brought to bear, what scale of production they have and if they'd even dedicate all or a significant portion of their capacity to us.
They've got a good chunk of a galaxy's worth of production to call upon. Who knows how quick they'd be able to mobilize it, but surely they'd be able to do so more quickly than we could build everything from scratch.

>I doubt the strength of the Galactic Government, on the basis that piracy exists alone we could make decent argument for them being either limited in power or limited in capacity to make use of what they have or them being distracted by some other threat or pressing need.
Piracy exists out in the edges of space where we're at. We've got good evidence that when you get into properly civilized regions (where things that are actually worth taking care of exist) the federation keeps everything nice and dandy.

As for doubting their strength, we know for a fact they've put down a non-specific large number of upstart predator species that thought they could take them on after first contact.

I'd imagine a fight against them would go similarly to how WWII went for Germany after the US joined in and Hitler decided to turn traitor on the USSR. No matter how good or clever our engineering and tactics they can only overcome a certain degree of numerical superiority.
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>>4898159
That is true as we have seen in our own history, the era of battleships are over, it’s all now in the hands of carriers so I suggest that we focus on but having a few other capital ships around will be good.
>>4898193
I am saying we 100% should fight the Federation because the higher ups are basically a group of shadowy political figures we don’t even know the names of. They are probably also pedophiles.
>>4898194
We need to see all the different types of ground forces they can deploy and their equipment too. I still think that creating a Soviet T-34-85 with ablative materials will fuck them over royally.
>>4898194
>>4898200
This is why I say we also need allies and not just minor ones either.
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>>4898194
I think the best way to deal with the galactic federation is simply to not let them realize we're trouble in the first place until we have sizable control whether that be military, cultural, etc, or all of the above at once. Basically we want a space coup where the actual government becomes useless compared to us. The simplest way to do that is to make humanity turn the wild frontiers of the galactic unions into "safe" havens. Be the better option and all of that.
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>>4898201
>I am saying we 100% should fight the Federation
Agreed, but we need to get a mountain of shit done first.
>Find Earth, unify it under America
>capture resource rich planets and set up interplanetary supply chain
>get a good grasp of galactic military doctrine and technology
>ally with other species, preferably those disgruntled by the ruling party
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>>4898201
We can make heavy combat drones that can fly and hover rather than limited mobility and firing elevation of a soviet ww2 tank. At least go for a Modernized t72 or t90.

Heck attack helicopters would be better.
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>>4898219
the reason I want to go into ww2 stuff first is because eventually, they are going to start countering us. If we have something like that I believe they will eventually create something like a late ww2 - early 1950s equivalent. When something like that happens we can pop out a superior version and rinse + repeat. Don't wanna show all our cards too early.
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I just want to say that if we're going to go to war, it should probably be guerilla warfare. It'd be nearly impossible to square up normally, even as powerful as humans are, but hit and run attacks? Ambushes, espionage, all that jazz? We'd do great at all that. Just drop in somewhere, and either board/cripple the ship, take everything valuable, and then leave. Steal their fabs, computers, and weapons specifically.

What we need to do is make them hurt enough to let go of the space in the vicinity of Earth, spread out into said space, industrialize, and THEN we start thinking about conventional warfare.
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>>4898262
I don't think we should ever get into the war phase within the thread itself unless we have timeskips. The idea here is that we lay the groundwork for if we have to do so when some assholes try to assert dominance over our species like we voted to join their union.
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>>4898262
Why go to war with the council? It's too early on in the game. The greys are a bigger threat, but we dont have to fight them either.
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>>4898285
I hope we do it sounds fun to organize an entire galactic wide war.
>>4898311
>Implying the leaders of the federation aren’t the same as the leaders of the Greys

If we go back and let humanity build up for the eventual war we could attempt to weaken the federation by encouraging wide scale revolts. Like the Arab springs.
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>>4898231
I get that, but its combat ineffective and eats up a fair bit of manpower unless we make them automated, in which case its better to make knock off versions of their military hardware since our weapon and technology have a different tech and ideological base they are far less likely to learn and predict our tech development path.
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>>4898323
I still see no benifits to going to war or why we should. I'm not interested in galactic domination.
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>>4897555

"I know it's there, i can see it. I don't know why there's life on this planet, but there's shouldn't be. It's weird."

"Does it really matter? We're just here for meat."

"It's suspicious. I dunno, i guess it doesn't matter..."

"Come on, let's just try and enjoy the hunt, shall we?"

"Yeah, you're right. Let's do what we came here for."

"Hah... fresh meat. Juicy fat, a nice sear... It'll be worth it."

"You're drooling again."

The next few minutes pass quickly, and you feel the whole ship rattling as you enter the atmosphere.
It's not a full-on atmospheric re-entry, in fact it's rather slow by human standards, but apparently the ship wasn't really made for atmospheric travel, so it's just going to be a bit bumpy.

Before you can reach the surface however, something goes wrong. You're not sure what, but it's bad! You're both knocked from your feet, and the lights flicker rapidly before going out!
The shaking is too intense to see what's going on, but after a moment it stops like nothing ever happened.

"SHODAN, what the hell was that?!"

"I am not sure, Captain. My sensors did not detect anything strange across the electromagnetic spectrum, however, there was some sort of massive dark energy signature."

"What was it?"

"As i said, i am unsure. No data exists on such an event occurring."

"Is it still there?"

"No, Captain. The energy signature dispersed as quickly as it appeared. There was no similarity between it and a ship's slipspace drive. It may have been a natural occurrence."

"Well, if that happens very frequently, that might be why everyone who lived here is dead. Cylia, what do you think? Should we look for another planet?"

"I don't know. We're already inconveniencing Kyla and Sanig by running off with the ship. We're already here, right? Let's just hurry through and get it done."

"...Alright. Get your helmet on, we don't know how nasty it might be out there. SHODAN, keep us updated through our earpieces, would you? If you see another signature like that, we're out of here."

While SHODAN finishes landing the ship, you and Cylia prepare to leave. You get your skinsuit helmets on and seal your neck rings, allowing you to breathe only cool, filtered air.
Your backpacks have plenty of gear, and you're both well armed just in case.

When the door opens and the ramp extends, you step out and onto an alien planet for the first time. Not just some space station built into an asteroid, but an honest to god alien planet, with life.
And now it's time to go hunting. If only the boys could see you now.

"David, what are you doing? Hurry up, we don't have all day."

"Right, sorry."

"So what are we looking for exactly?"

"There's not a whole lot of information, but most of the animals on the surface here are birds of one sort or another. Some of them are flightless, and that's gonna be our target."

"A flightless bird? I've never heard of something like that before."

"We have them on earth too. They're easy prey. Mostly..."
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>>4898365
While i'm here, roll me 1d100 for animal tracking, best of four since Cylia is here to help you.
The higher your rolls, the better your chances of finding something good.
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Rolled 35 (1d100)

>>4898368
PENGUINS
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Rolled 23 (1d100)

>>4898368
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Rolled 64 (1d100)

>>4898368
hey celia check this out
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Rolled 65 (1d100)

>>4898371
>>4898379
>>4898391
Still got the roll low curse do we
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Rolled 89 (1d100)

>>4898368
I am rolling anyway :>)
I do wonder... dark energy surge... I hope no one. somehow, just worm-holed' into the ship
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>>4898395
Hah, fucking rock-dude coming back to fuck with us you mean?

That's actually worryingly possible.
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Rolled 15 (1d100)

>>4898324
Remember, our weaponry would mince through their heavy armour considering the fact that they are only prepared for laser weaponry. Combine our firepower with their defence and we got something pretty good.
>>4898355
If the leaders of your federation aren't even known then chances are it's a pretty bad system.
Also, they technically own Earth because they said they own everything so fuck that.
>>4898365
Rolling cause why not
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>>4898399
>>4898395
I fucking hope it's the rock guy. We're ready for round 2.
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>>4898414
In a straight up fight, hell yeah we are.

But I would be expecting something more like him rigging the ship to explode or something. He's not gonna fight straight up again after losing once.
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>>4898418
Maybe this time he brought a hit squad with more phasers
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>>4898424
>Nice try fucko, but I'm wearing my full body rubber condom this time!
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>>4898285
>>4898311
Everyone else seemed gung ho, and I know that If I can't stop them, I may as well help them.
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Rolled 69 (1d100)

>>4898365
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>>4898655
Nice
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>>4898655
nice and i got some dubs too
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>>4898211
One minor point I have an issue with. Unifying humanity as a rule has bad results for the average humans life. Being able to move from one country to another if the leadership sucks balls is a feature not a bug.

Also something that is really not needed. De facto america owns as much of the world as it can afford to own. The amount of different cultures that want to be sovereign is big and do we want to turn earth into constant COIN hell?
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>>4898876
Deus Ex said it best.
The wealthy have always been the ones to profit from one-world government.
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>>4898876
True. What we really need to do is empower some mutually agreed upon authority, like the UN, to prevent human rights abuses. But this would put us in opposition to the US government, and David is a good little patriot so he probably wouldn't do it.
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>>4898969
I mean even a patriot would still want to do good for everyone. Liberty and justice for all, ya dig?
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>>4899001
The problem with that mentality is that some people just don't want that. Or have very different definitions and values on what is good. Some really do not care for liberty.
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>>4898365

"I've seen that look before. I'm not going to ask what you're thinking about."

"Ostriches. They're birds with a brain the size of a peanut, but enough leg strength to kick a human to death."

"So they're both stupid and insanely strong?"

"Yep. They aren't the only big birds though. One of our major countries actually lost a war against a bird call an Emu, which is like an ostrich but smaller."

"...You lost a war? Against birds?"

"Hard to believe, but it's true."

"But you said these birds were stupid!"

"There were a lot of them. In fact, that was the whole reason we started the war."

"..."

"Anyways, let's see what we can track down."

"Right."

You and Cylia both get to work looking for any signs of large animals. Footprints, disturbed ground, broken branches, obvious trails, fresh poop, nesting spots and so on... but it's slow going.

"Looks like it rains here a lot, and the vegetation seems to grow back really, really quickly."

"Yeah, but at least we're onto something. I'm glad we're wearing these suits, look at the temperature and humidity readings."

"83F and 70% humidity? That's not too bad at all."

"Maybe for you. It's more than i'd be comfortable in for sure. These suits are amazing."

"That's true... hey! Get down, i see something!"

Off in the distance, just at the edge of your vision, you saw some movement. However, you couldn't tell what it was. It disappeared quickly.
As you make your way closer, you see something you weren't expecting at all. The ruins of a building. Completely covered in those rapidly-growing plants, it towers above the canopy.

"Woah... i guess there really was a civilization here once, huh?"

"David, look! Over here!"

You round the corner of the building. Before you lies a sprawling city ruins, stretching out as far as you can see. Which admittedly isn't all that far, due to the foliage.

"The buildings aren't destroyed, it's all just covered over. There's nobody here at all."

"But there are animals, look!"

Sure enough, there are countless birds who've made the buildings and trees here their home.
On the streets below, you even see quite a few fat-looking birds eating from some sort of fruit-bearing bush.

"Cylia, you go ahead and take the first shot. If you miss, i'll take my shot. Just be aware, this thing sounds like god slamming his car door. It's gonna scare a lot of the animals around here."

"Alright, no pressure. I haven't done this since i was a kid, and never with a bow like this, but sure..."

"It's alright, you can do it. I'm sure."

Cylia takes her bow in hand and slowly creeps up, using both the cover of the encroaching plant life and the cover of buildings and alleyways to sneak closer to the group of birds.
She's almost completely silent even normally, but the added effect of her skinsuit has improved her ability even further. She makes zero noise as she closes in on them.

You see her lining up to take the shot, nocking one arrow with another held in hand, just in case.
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>>4899233
Give me a 1d100, best of 3.
DC20
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Rolled 65 (1d100)

>>4899252
Ohhh boooy, LUNCH!
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Rolled 82 (1d100)

>>4899252
EZ
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Rolled 60 + 10 (1d100 + 10)

>>4899266
Very nice!
And now i'll roll as well.
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>>4899266
Fuck yeah.
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>>4899267
Is it too late to double back and print up a supressor and sub sonic ammo?
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>>4899233
I just realized David went 100% gringo with the rifle he choose. If he shoots anything less than dog-sized there won't be any game left thanks to the bullet. David, a .22 would have done the job waaaaaay better.
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>>4899350
I'm pretty sure 7.62x54 will work fine for David's purposes. Besides, we're looking for big game here, not the small shit.
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>>4899010
Well fuck em they'll get it anyway.
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>>4899378
Should they not have the liberty to choose liberty?
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>>4899415
Are you stupid? Because that was stupid. Shame on you.
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>>4899415
It’s called moving somewhere else, like a shithole named Germany or France.
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>>4899350
David is a gringo. A glue sniffing one at that, because when he entered the core there were no crayons.
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>>4899457
Heh. Indeed. In fact a significant number of east European honest workers have been returning home before the flupanic because the difference in pay of one or two hundred euros was not worth the bother to work there now that wages have increased in hands on work. Leaving only the car thieves, credit card scammers and assorted criminals to stay for their jobs completeley there.
Fucking great imho. West Europe deserves this shit for marching to become almost as socialistic as the former come block.
Let them keep all the gypos.
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>>4899453
Just wanted to point out that, inherently, not giving them a choice isn't giving them liberty.
>>4899457
you see the problem (much as it isn't really a problem, I freely admit that I enjoy pointing out flaws in arguments and ideas whether or not I disagree with them) is that under anon's glorious plan, everywhere would be Libertyland.
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>>4899497
nah niqquah u dum as ell
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>>4899503
fair enough
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>>4898876
We'd splinter into colony/planetary states like every gundam anime does soon enough anyway. No reason to not prune off the jackasses while everyone is still planetbound and see how the populace reacts. Russia would have a decent turnaround, China depends on what the QM thinks. I suspect the younger generations are pretty brainwashed while the older ones would try to take advantage of sudden FREEDOM if the heads and muscle of the communist party was suddenly cut off.
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>>4899378
>>4899453
>>4899503
da big ghey homo homie boi bussy
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You see her breathe in and out again slowly, readying herself. She looses her arrow, and it strikes true!
Before the birds have time to react, she nocks her second arrow and fires, striking it as well!

At the same time, you fire your mosin, aiming for a bird's neck, and your bullet finds it's mark as well.
The bird's head is cleanly severed from it's body and the bullet continues on, striking another bird behind it and then the concrete building behind that, taking a fat chunk out of the wall.

You expected them all to flee. Of course they would, four of them just died, right?
But they don't. All of them raise their heads and look around at the sound of your gunshot, but they don't flee. In fact, they ignore their dead kin and go right back to eating.

"What the hell...?"

You stand up from your hidden position and begin walking up to your kills. Cylia does the same.
And the birds? They see you, but they just don't seem to care.

"Why aren't they running?"

"I... don't know."

You reach down and literally grab over of the fat, oversized birds by the neck, holding it's head up to eye level with you.
It simply looks at you with a dumb expression on it's face, not even bothering to kick or flutter it's useless little wings.

"It doesn't have a fear response?"

"Oh. Is this a garden world?"

"A what?"

"It's kind of weird, but... well, some planets don't even have a concept or predator and prey. The entire ecosystem is utterly symbiotic, and so you get things like these."

Cylia kicks at one of the birds. It squawks but otherwise has little to no reaction.

"But... but how do they evolve?! What about resource competition?!"

"Take a look around. There's fruit everywhere, if you look closely. And i'd bet there's not a single poisonous compound on this entire planet."

"What about breeding rights?! Overpopulation!"

"They just... lose their drive. It's for the greater good, right?"

"That's stupid! These things are fucking stupid!"

You throttle the bird in your grip, and it just stares at you with that stupid fucking look on it's face. It's literally willing to let you eat it, because it doesn't matter to them.

"They place as much value on their lives as a fucking ant! What the hell, how do these things survive?!"

"What's worse is that, somehow, sentient species end up coming from these worlds sometimes. And they're as annoyingly passive as you might imagine."

"I hate it here. At least these things look fatty as hell. Should be good over the fire... probably."

"What do you mean over the fire? Are you going to burn them? It's still good meat..."

"Don't you know? Chicken tastes best on the BBQ. I don't have a grill or any hickory, so i'm doing the next best thing and spitroasting it over the campfire."

"Meat cooked over a fire... i don't know why, but i like the sound of that."

"Great. Here, take this axe and start chopping into some trees. If you find one that smells good, call me over the headset radio. I'll be here, gutting these."
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>>4900033
dodo 2.0
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>>4900033
I want one as a pet, solely so we can make comparisons between it and our crew when somebody does something stupid.
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>>4900113
You definitely could do that.
They eat fruit, and it's not like they're hostile. At all. Ever. Literally ever.

Dumbass birds.
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>>4900122
Wait, I think I have a better reason to bring one of these bastards along.
They lay eggs, right?
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>>4900033
Great, I want to use it as a football. Just chuck the thing at someone's head.
>>4900122
Why would you subjugate this world to them?
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>>4900131
Frequently.
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>>4900135
Are they tasty? What size?
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>>4900135
I'm sold. Now all we need is spices and we're that much closer to a proper meal.
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>>4900135
Maybe these shitbirds aren't so useless after all.
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>>4900141
>>4900148
Would this planet even have spices?
>>4900135
Is spices considered a predator here?
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>>4900152
>Would this planet even have spices?
Probably not, but I figure somebody on our crew knows enough chemistry to help us synthesize them.
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>>4900141
If it ain't spicy or hard to reach, it's poison. Or some weird fruit parasite. Don't trust it.
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>>4900135
LET'S
FUCKING
GOOOOOOOOO
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>>4900135
>>4900140
Eggs are valuable because they turn inedible or undesirable foliage into valuable protein. Or in this case, barely edible and undesirable nutrient paste into tasty protein.

We could actually make a killing off of it, if we can convince aliens that eating eggs are a good idea.
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>>4900113
Supporting

>>4900122
Give us example borb so we can go drill instructor on someone for being morally, logically, or common sense levels of stupid.

>>4900135
My god. We can make so many Egg based products.
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>>4900241
Predators still only make up a minority of the market, most aliens won't be interested in them. I would even go so far as to wager most non-predator aliens couldn't digest them properly. (Yes, I know non-predator doesn't mean non-omnivore but with the lack of meat I'm guessing non-predators really are mostly herbivorous)
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Eggshells for calcium would be highly beneficial to any species with a calcium requireing skeletal structure.

Even herbivores eat some small amount of animal protein from incidental insects in nature.
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I bet David had an iron pan to make eggs in and never washed the crusty burnt eggs on it. "It's tastier this way" he says
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>>4900597

New thread, lads. Old thread is archived.
>>4900703
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>>4900122
They're secretly highly intelligent sapient beings that will grow to resent us, reactivate their ancient weapons of war, and attack us with their superior ancient military technology, aren't they?



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