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>>4833735
New Vegas Region
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Month 3

Population (Rough Estimate) 61,000
Freeside/New Vegas: 45,000
Novac: 2,000
Primm: 2,000
Goodsprings: 500
Jacobstown: 500
New Vegas Outskirts: 3,000
Sloan: 150
Remaining population dispersed throughout region
New Vegas: Rebuilt Pre-War buildings, defensive wall, electricity, plumbing.
Freeside: Sparse electricity. Pre-war ruins, pre-war buildings, shacks. Defensive wall
Primm: Electricity. Intact pre-war buildings, pre-war ruins
Goodsprings: Electricity, intact pre-war houses
Novac: Electricity, intact pre-war houses
Camp McCarran: Intact pre-war building, military tents, electricity, plumbing, defensive wall, watch towers, military tents, basic training course
Cottonwood Cove: Damaged pre-war housing, damaged pre-war buildings, direct access to clean water


Economy
Tariffs: Low 5%(+7,500 caps/turn)
Dam Output: (14,000 caps/turn, 10,000 caps/turn)
Sales tax: None (+0 caps/turn)
Casino Tribute: Intermediate (+38,500 caps/turn)
Upkeep: None (-65,750 caps/turn)
Treasury: 104,000 caps

Food
Very Low (Stable)
Simple diet
The food situation in New Vegas is in a dangerous predicament but a large enough supply to maintain Freeside until food production

Water
Average(Stable)
Mostly clean water from Lake Mead supplies Freeside, New Vegas, North Vegas

Healthcare
Abysmal (Stable)
Few scavenged industrial medicine, sparse home remedies

Research
Available Facilities: None
Current Research: None
New Vegas is incapable of conducting meaningful experience due to lack of expertise, facilities and equipment

Industry
>Available Facilities: Michael Angelo’s Workshop
>Current Projects: Vault 19 Sulfur Mining, Scavenger Training (On hold), Freeside cleanup (On hold), Freeside Aptitude (On Hold)

80 Scavengers, 300 miners, 5 repairmen
>Material: AA replacement parts, Hoover Dam maintenance equipment, limited mining equipment, 500 dynamite


Military
>The Strip: Heavily Fortified, Laser PDW, 200 securitrons
>Freeside: 25 securitrons at Strip entrance, 75 patrolling Freeside, 600 mercenaries
>The Dam: 200 securitrons, 4 Anti-Air weapons
>Camp McCarran: 15 Securitrons as garrison
>24 deployed to Novac area
>25 deployed to Primm area
>25 deployed to Sloan area
>25 deployed to Jacobstown area
>42 deployed to Outer Vegas Ruins
>100 deployed to south Mojave
>100 mercenaries deployed to Vault 19
>200 mercenaries protecting sharecroppers
>30 mercenaries training at McCarran (Two weeks remaining)
>100 mercenaries deployed to south Mojave


736 Mkll Securitrons, 1 damaged
The Courier
1,000 Mercenaries: Semi-professional, Miscellaneous equipment
19 Shock Troopers

Cass: +3 to combat actions (Medically unavailable)
Raul: +5 to Repair actions, +3 to combat
Boone: +4 to combat actions, +2 sneak actions (Currently unavailable)
Ed-E: +4 to combat, allows field repairs/ammo crafting
Lily: +4 to stealth actions, +3 to combat
Veronica: +3 to combat, +2 scavenging actions (Currently Unavailable)
Rex: +2 to combat, +3 to scavenging
Roxie: +2 to combat, +3 to scavenging
Arcade: +3 to technology actions, +4 healthcare actions (Currently unavailable)
Knox: +5 to combat (Stationed at dam)
Doc Henry
Moreno (Training at McCarran)
Whitman
Johnson (Training at McCarran)
Kreger
Muggy
Toaster

Council
Treasury- Cass (when available)
Defense- Kreger
State- Francine Garret
Agriculture- Joseph Linden
Industry- Chomp Lewis
Health & Human Development-Julie Farkas
Science & Technology- Doctor Henry
Tourism- Cachino

Actions
>Courier Action
>Military Action
>Industry/Scavenge/Repair
>Other

Alerts
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WARNING: TENUOUS FOOD SITUATION
Two weeks until the sharecropper farms begin to produce, though initially at a low level. The purchased food will keep Freeside from starvation for the two week shortfall.

WARNING: FREESIDE HEALTH
The worst of the situation has passed, but there is still a need for permanent, professional healthcare in perhaps your largest population center. A lot of the patients need long-term care that none of your current doctors can provide. There is also the fear of outbreaks in communicable diseases

WARNING: YES MAN UPGRADE
Yes Man has shut down for his mentioned upgrades. He didn’t give you a time estimate before going offline.

WARNING: ARCADE MEETING
Arcade Gannon requests a meeting concerning the future of The Followers in the region.

WARNING: BRIGHT BROTHERHOOD
Members of the Bright Brotherhood have returned to Novac to assist in their reconstruction efforts.

WARNING: CAZADOR NESTS
Cass and Ed-E were unable to destroy the nests in the Jacobstown valley. While not an immediate problem, if they hatch, it will reinfest the valley.

WARNING: NIPTON CLEANUP
With the roads being secured from Powder Ganger attacks, some caravans and travelers are going through the burned remains of Nipton. Many of the corpses and rubble remains, impacting travel and perception.

Suggestions:
Deploy to Black Mountain
Set up an administrative system for Freeside
Census of New Vegas

Already having the weapons caches marked, your scavvers didn’t have much issue collecting and sending them to McCarran. Moreno is very appreciative of your support and he promises to spit out the meanest sons of bitches in the wasteland. The Outer Vegas ruins are more or less picked clean, with few fiends still hiding in the crevices. However, there are hundreds of tons of steel and other raw materials that may be useful for future industrial efforts.

The handymen sent to Cottonwood cove have written up a crude list of improvements needed, as well as some general construction they cannot do. The core question is what you want to turn the cove into.

The training of scavengers is put on hold until Veronica returns. Raul is training another 5 Freesiders.

You begrudgingly purchase a month’s worth of food for Freeside. You’re still not sure why the price-gouging from the Crimson Caravan, but it won’t be forgotten quickly. With the current food supply, you have enough to last until the farms start producing.

The Securitrons cleared the rubble from Fortification Hill, allowing access to the facility. It will need guards stationed there, mercenary or Securitron. You can now explore the facility and find its purpose.

Muggy and Toaster have consumed their respective kitchenware. They are grateful and excited to get to work breaking down even more, returning useful material.

Vault 19 has started mining sulfur and sending it to The Boomers for production.

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Cass and Ed-E were sent to locate and eradicate the remaining cazador nests near Jacobstown. As only nests were remaining, it didn’t seem necessary to send a force of Securitrons. How wrong that assumption was. During a quick clearing of a small cave, the two inadvertently walked into a nesting ground with adult Cazadors guarding their eggs. They attacked Cass and Ed-E before either got a shot off. Fighting through the venom, Cass helped Ed-E shoot their way out, with her throwing a satchel charge at the entrance, sealing the cave. She soon lost consciousness, with Ed-E sending out an emergency ping to a Securitron patrol. She was brought to the Old Mormon Fort, having slipped into a coma. The Followers have done all they can but aren’t sure when she will wake up. She had more cazador venom in her bloodstream than anyone they’ve seen before.

Sitting in the Presidential Suite, you keep running over who should fill your council. They will be able to give you insight on the different aspects of your nation that you don’t have time to glean for yourself. With Cass out of service for the foreseeable future, you will keep the treasury position open for her. As for the rest…

Treasury- Cass (when available)
Defense- Kreger
State- Francine Garret
Agriculture- Joseph Linden
Industry- Chomp Lewis
Health & Human Development-Julie Farkas
Science & Technology- Doctor Henry
Tourism- Cachino

These members serve an advisory role in your government, answering any questions about their field to the best of their knowledge. They can be replaced at any time. Joseph Linden is a sharecropper who is the ad-hoc director of farm operations outside of Freeside.

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Doc Henry: Well, I’ve never heard of domesticating Geckos, at least not on the level you’re wanting. The breeds you have in the Mojave are too dangerous, not to mention those damn fire-breathers would burn down any farm. If there was a more docile breed then sure, but with my facilities and current knowledge, I couldn’t create a friendly Gecko. Perhaps some tribe has learned the secrets of their husbandry, but I could only theorize what would be needed to accomplish this.

Lily wasn’t successful in her scouting, but not for a lack of trying. Before you sent her out, you gave her clear instructions and a hug. The area was just too large for her to safely cover, but she did confirm that the Powder Gangers are now moving at night, creating roadside traps for passing caravans and travelers.

This scouting didn’t seem to matter as the Securitron and Mercenary force dispatched had good success in finding and eliminating the Powder Ganger encampments. Many were hidden in the rocks and caves in the south, meaning that the mercenaries really did the hard work of methodically clearing the mountains. While a majority of what Powder Gangers remained in the mojave are now killed, some still remain and it will be another month of combing by your forces at their current pace. They have recovered 500 sticks of dynamite, or a two month supply for Sloan. It can be sent towards the military or industrial stockpile.

“This is Mr. New Vegas with some more news. The Courier has directed his robot army to wipe out the Powder Gangers in the southern Mojave. They Are reported to be hidden in the hills and caves around the main roads, but will surely be rooted out and destroyed. If events keep progressing the way they are, I may be out of a job. Don’t worry New Vegas, I’ll keep bringing the music.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeZRYhLDLeU

>>4833768
Send the dynamite to the industrial stockpile, for use in cleaning up Freeside amongst other uses.

>Courier - Meet with Arcade and then investigate the Fortification Hill Bunker, with the goal of finding its purpose.

>Military - Continue pressure on Powder Gangers under Knox and Lily; Have the 19 Shock Troops redeploy over to Jacobstown area to deal with the Cazador nests ASAP, flamers and explosives should be provided.

>Industry - Construct logging camps around Jacobstown and a sawmill within Jacobstown. 16,000 caps to the effort.

>Industry - Construct a glassworks in Freeside and employ Michael Angelo to teach people how to do it (if he is making custom neon signs, he has to have the capability to produce glass and shape it; he also must have some way of evacuating the air from the glass for the neon to replace, but we can deal with those possibilities later). 15,000 caps to the effort.

>Industry - Construct a scrap metal reprocessing plant to turn salvaged material into more useful pure substances. 20,000 caps to this effort.

>Medicine - Convert a few structures near the Old Mormon Fort into sick houses, to act as long-term care wards / patient housing. Doc Henry, begin training Freesiders in medical skills to assist the Followers. Give 20,000 caps to these efforts.

>Medicine - Construct multiple public latrine and public baths throughout Freeside for use without charge; preferably linked into the Vegas Sewers; this should hopefully cut down on the transmissible disease risk of Freeside. 8,000 caps to the effort.

>Training - Raul and Veronica, continue training actions. Take additional funds if needed to continue training.

>Salvage/Repair - Salvagers along with Rex and Roxie return to the task of cleaning up Freeside. Pass off easily repaired items to Repairmen and Ed-E to fix; items once fixed should either be sold (toasters, radios, hot plates, etc) or kept (energy weapons, complex electronics, manufacturing or construction equipment, etc). Any robots found, functional or not, should be kept and restored to function.


79 thousand caps, but it should fix some of our health issues (at the very least, it means our people will be cleaner and the sick will have carehouses) and begin setting up actual industry in freeside: the glassworks can produce everything from bottles and jars to artwork and windows (in theory, equipment and skill dependent until we can automate the latter away)); the scrap metal reprocessing should ensure we've consistent supplies of pure steel, copper, tin, brass, bronze and so on; the logging and sawmill operations should give us not only fresh lumber but planks which means we can really start doing some interesting industrial things.

>>4833748
>Courier action- Talking to the Bright Brotherhood, setting up a Freeside administration and having it conduct a New Vegas census.

Unless you lads wanna explore Fortification Hill that is.

>Military action- Deploy to Black Mountain, send 100 mercs to assist the Securitrons in clearing out the cazador nests with Ed-E, Rex, and Roxie, set up Securitrons at Fortification Hill.

I'm assuming Powder Ganger operations is still underway.

>Scavenge/Cleanup- Scavange Nipton and support a clean up of the area.

>Repair- A bike will be a nice present for Cass when she wakes up.

>Lily, please assist in the Powder Ganger cleanup

>>4833865
Looks like a good list - supporting this.

>The Bright Brotherhood is back and they're down to help out.

This is actually a great thing! A group of friendly ghouls that owe us a favor, or at least are open to help out New Vegas. Ghouls can do a ton of good in that they can explore any radioactive areas, and act as diplomats to other ghouls in the area to join up. A lot of them are also old as fuck and could have a wealth of professional knowledge. Speaking of which, can we reach out to Chris Haversham, that human who thinks he's a ghoul? Scientist waiting to get scooped up.

Motion to send an envoy out and see who their new leadership is and set up a meeting.

>meet with Julie and Arcade *immediately*

They're gonna have the most shrewd judgement regarding what we can do about the hospital and medical situation, we can't go on with things the way they are. Especially with our homegirl Cass. She demands good treatment.

>>4833865
Isn't New Vegas Steel a scrap metal repurposing plant?

>>4833897
Why not meet the Brotherhood in person after meeting with Arcade? Also, aren't we considered a Saint of the Brotherhood, or is that just Chris?

>>4833906
Nah just a generic steel plant, although there is a Lucky 38 Executive Override; so it might be smart to use it as the centre point of the facility or as a separate large-scale reprocessing plant for steel (given it is fully automated, we don't need any actual people to run it seemingly, assuming we can work out how to control the automation).

I'd prefer Swank in charge of tourism over Cachino. The Omertas court trouble and their idea of a good time (good as it is) is hookers and blow. Those guys wouldn't think twice about getting Freesiders with a dime back on dope and wasting valuable manpower that we've invested heavily in.

The Tops guys are kind of dorks but they know good entertainment, and Swank is a pretty chill guy. More importantly he's always been on the level with the Courier.

>>4833911
Isn't that what the Lucky 38 Executive Override is supposed to do? Plus, most of the equipment needed for large-scale repurposing is already there isn't it?

>>4833926
I assume Cachino won't shit where he eats, so to speak.

ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT HIGHER LEVEL INDUSTRY

As you start to diversify your economy, the workforce will need to become more capable. To that end, you cannot just pluck a Freesider off of the street and throw him into a steel mill and expect anything worth a damn to come out. While this may sound like railroading, either a general education system needs to be created or you create an administrative system structured around cataloging the SPECIAL stats of Freesiders. This can be done with the Vit-O-Matic machine or creating an encompassing test. That will allow you train the right kind of Freesider, so someone with 1 INT isn't training to be a doctor.

I am willing to hear constructive criticism over this addendum.

>>4833768
>Courier Action
Bite the bullet and pay the crimson Caravan until we see a big enough crop return.
Focus on Healthcare and Cass.
Also meet with Arcade

>Military
Take 100 Mercenaries, give them flamers, and ask if any super mutants at jacobstown would like to do a conjoined fight against the cazidors.

>>4833865
A lot of this is good, except deploying the Shock Troopers. They're only good for Urban environments and undergrounds caves are not that. That would be a terrible use for them as they would be more likely to die.

>>4833937
>not fully committing to the People's Democratic Republic of New Vegas

But seriously, I do agree with the main premise. We'll shelve some of the higher industries for now until we get a Freeside administration working.

>>4833937
Whqt kind of laws do we have ?

>>4833865
Support

We could put out an edict for resettlement of Nipton. Any freemen that wants a home is welcome to go and resettle the town. As well sending some men for give tombs to the skeletons. Shouldn t be too difficult.

>>4833957
>Whqt kind of laws do we have ?
None, most towns follow their own rules. There is room for a standardized law code

>>4833963
That s something we need to think of. Local rules are nice but aren t exactly ideal for us.

>>4833941
Fair point but equally they're more competent than regular mercs and more suitable than the Securitrons to deal with this sort of situation. Shouldn't even be that dangerous given there aren't meant to be large hordes of Cazadors and the location of the nests is known. If QM (>>4833963, just getting your attention) would be willing to add another two dozen regular mercs in support of them from Freeside, that'd be fine too and wouldn't be too big of a change.

>>4833984
Reform the Desert Rangers; Marshals of Law, Vigils of Justice and Protectors of Order on this, the New Frontier!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Se_cC4nvx8

>>4833995
They're only more competent when it comes to urban warfare. It's not worth risking their potential, when a different group of 19 mercenaries could do the job just as well as they could.

Can't searching fortification Hill wait? We can just simply choose to have ten Securitrons guard the entrance and check it out later. Right now we need to attend to more pressing matters such as the remains Fiends, Powder Gangers, Cazzidor nests, and the Health Care issue. The longer we put off resolving it, the worse it will get. Kind of like our food problem right now.

If we are able to free of the Followers time with all the injured, we could put their help to greater use with our administrative or education system. Also giving them the Fit-o-matic machine to do book keeping on who's good with what.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvWtI4NZjTI

Alternatively this song, if you prefer a more soft-rock variant.


With genuine seriousness though: Desert Rangers combined with popular ratification of law by creation of Judges and courts with Juries and all that modern shit would be a good thing PR wise. Both old and new ways of doing things working together.

>>4833865
Glass crafting and logging would fall under the "advanced" industry. It is still possible to train people in this, but it would be a much smaller group and would take longer. Training doctors follows this same train of thought.

The scrap processing location is possible but without specialized equipment, only small pieces of scrap could be collected.

Julie Farkas: I am glad you're taking sanitation seriously. Next to proper nutrition, it is the best way to keep citizens healthy. Currently, most Freesiders either dispose of their waste in the streets, or in communal dumping grounds. Frankly, it's disgusting but there isn't an alternative. We could construct communal latrine pits on the outskirts of the city and let them drain into the countryside, but that isn't really fixing the situation, just pushing the waste somewhere else. New Vegas has a mostly-intact sewage system right under our feet. While indoor plumbing is off the table, we could construct bath-houses, like in ancient Roman times. We could tap into the sewage system from there, a sort of runoff from the toilets to the sewer.

Granted, we would need to clear the sewers of debris and anyone living there first.

>>4834003
>They're only more competent when it comes to urban warfare. It's not worth risking their potential, when a different group of 19 mercenaries could do the job just as well as they could.
Fine, if QM will please note that I'd like to replace the Shock Troops with regular Mercs, so I don't have to post the entire plan again, that'd be great.

>Can't searching fortification Hill wait?
It contains god knows what but almost certainly more Securitrons and their parts, perhaps even information on Mr Houses plans or facilities of use in the creation of Securitrons / general robotics or any other number of things; it is entirely possible it contains a stockpile of guns, food and other supplies for his own use for example.

>remains Fiends,
Not an issue on our scale anymore, barely a few dozen left at the very very most.

>Powder Gangers
Will be in the same position as the Fiends in one more turn of continued pressure.

>Cazzidor nests
They'd cut trade off again but I've already assigned assets to deal with them.

>Health Care issue.
I have 29,000 caps down on trying to fix our healthcare problems both current and future. The Courier can't reasonably do much to resolve the present issues.

>>4834007
>Glass crafting and logging would fall under the "advanced" industry. It is still possible to train people in this, but it would be a much smaller group and would take longer.
To be fair, Glasscrafting we've got a guy who knows his shit to teach people at least; logging is a far more fair point but even if we've got to put out a request for NCR immigrants with such skills it'd still be a good investment (even if it takes a turn or two to be active).

>Training doctors follows this same train of thought.
Yeah but we've got to get started at some point. don't we?

>The scrap processing location is possible but without specialized equipment, only small pieces of scrap could be collected.
Define small and specialised, for the purposes of discussion and planning.

>Granted, we would need to clear the sewers of debris and anyone living there first.
I mean, we could easily direct the efforts of our scavenging teams to clear the sewers, perform radio broadcasts about what is going to occur and otherwise tell people to move. Ain't hard and it ain't like they can rightly complain when we're giving them this stuff.

>>4834007
>Granted, we would need to clear the sewers of debris and anyone living there first.

Done, get some people on it.

>>4833995
>>4834005
Don't mind the idea of Desert Rangers, but we'll need a training program and someone willing to set up and run such an institution.

>>4834007
Would New Vegas Steel have the specialized equipment needed for scrap processing and repurposing?

>>4834035
>training program
Luckily the skills are fairly similar to what standard military training in the Wasteland contains with a greater focus on surviving off the land, tracking and stealth but the basics of shooting, melee, explosives and so on are still needed.

DRs are also Elite bastards; the NCR rangers are basically just a imitation of the desert rangers and the Desert Rangers trace their heritage to the Pre-War Texan Rangers. In theory, if we send out the call and point out that the NCR no longer can uphold the terms of the Ranger Unification Treaty, some might return to act as the nucleus of a reborn Ranger Order.


As to leading it, Boone is a suitable choice were he not such a loner and field operative. Worst comes to worst we throw them in under Kreger as a mix between Law-and-Soldier.

>>4834055
No shit? Well, I'm sure we'll see some rangers come to us in the coming months then.

>>4834014
>QM will please note that
Noted.

>>4834022
>Glasscrafting we've got a guy who knows his shit
He isn't the best teacher, being neurotic and all. Still possible but a slow process.

>put out a request for NCR immigrants
Possible but would need a powerful transmitter. Black Mountain is the only local place

>Define small and specialised,
Small being whatever someone could carry. Piles of scrap metal, metal sheets that you would find on a shack. Cars are possible if they are pulled by enough people or animals are used. Equipment being mostly plasma cutters, though things like bobcats, bulldozers and the such would be a huge help.

>Would New Vegas Steel have the specialized equipment needed for scrap processing and repurposing?
Equipment was looted long ago, but the infrastructure is there. I am going to put a stipulation that any scavenged metal is only going to return a quarter of it's output in steel as much of it would need to be discarded to produce structurally sound material.

>>4834070
The terms of the Unification are the NCR protecting the NV area, the dam and Southern Nevada; only 1/3 of those is even possible and I doubt their ability to defend anywhere else in southern nevada having lost their main route into the state.

>>4834074
Nah brah./ The NCR can bite it. We also need to fix up places before requesting, or suggesting immigrants enter. Remember, Nipton is still covered in corpses, on fire, in addition to the few remaining powder gangers leaving traps at night.

>>4834073
Can we put out a sort of scaving thing where we can buy bottles at 1 cap for every 10, and 1 cap for every 10 books? Is that a smart deal or a bad one? I got no idea? Asking since Muggy can Disassemble the cups or we can clean them for rebottling, or get Bookchute to make us clean new books out of the damaged ones.

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You were told by a NCR Embassy runner that Ambassador Mullfeld wished to speak to you about current NCR events. Indulging him, you head down to the squat building that contains the NCR diplomatic corp.

Entering, you find him in the same office the late Ambassador Crocker inhabited.

Thank you for coming on such short notice. I would have waited for a more...convenient...time but this is a pressing matter. In one of President Kimball's seemingly last actions office, he has declared the following territory for the NCR. I tell you this because, well, you can see it plainly here.

He unfolds a map and hands it to you.

You can barely believe it, a blatant act of territorial hostility. No doubt as payback for taking New Vegas and the dam from him.

I understand you must be upset, and I promise I did voice my concerns about the potential diplomatic fallout, but I am afraid his mind was made up.

>>4834143
>look at borders
>it must be a joke
>laughtrack.mp3

Well, that's definitely disputed. It's quite a shame, I was looking forward to helping the NCR with it's Legion problem. Oh well.

Give our best to Kimball. We did save his ass in a Legion assassination attempt after all.

>>4834143
I've been writing out appropriate responses to this for awhile, decided to just do it the simple way and state the obvious:

1) Everything east of V15's location MUST NOT be given to the NCR; if they get that we lose our only real route to expansion which doesn't involve crossing the Colorado and having to deal with the Legion (eventually, a little expansion doesn't encounter them).

2) The border south of Primm should be a bit further south, potentially to a significant degree if we can push it.

3) They are claiming The Divide and Big MT, even though they can't use them just to prevent us trying anything there / grandstanding.

4A) Fuck the NCR, threaten to cut the dam's supply and prevent any citizens crossing the border until they recant this bullshit. (If we want to push the issue). TLDR: ha, nice joke, now stop or suffer.

4B) Alternatively, just tell them that we claim all the planet and respect that conflicting claims will just have to be settled by alternative means like ownership-by-possession but that we seek no war with a fellow civilised nation unless forced. TLDR: two could play at that game, fuck off and may the best man win.

4C) Just tell him that we don't give a singular fuck about claims, all that matters is rightful possession. Not grandstanding on a map. Make this the rallying cry of the New Vegas (fuck we need a name) people; distribute it to the BOS as well and begin sending diplomats north to talk to northern tribes, to enter a defensive confederation to resist any attempts to oust them from their lands. TLDR: If the NCR wishes to make claims, they can make enemies too.


>>4834203
Agreed. I kinda want to try and get them to give restitution for this bullshit like revoking those northern claims and giving a public apology.

>>4834143
tell the Ambassador Mullfeld to get the Presidents ass down here as soon as possible so we can talk like gentlemen face to face

>>4834143
Sounds like the NCR can enforce it now, and ANY transgressing from that point will be repaid by the NCR goverment right?

>>4834226
>>4834214
>>4834203
>>4834211
I have a list of negotiation points for the changing of the northern border. This has not officially went into action, as it is pending the President's signature. If you would like, I can provide them to you. Or, I can invite the President out personally if you would wish to talk to him directly.

>>4834211
Just politely say that those borders are disputed. Then do everything in our power to fuck with them. The Great Khans are to our north, right? We'll weaponize them and use them as a proxy force in the region. We'll just take over the Great Divide and Big MT informally, then after we secured our hold, make it formal.

Plus, the NCR will have no help from us in protecting their borders from the Legion. In fact, since we control the dam we effectively control the river south of us. We could flood the river to prevent any military crossings.

>>4834226
Figurative question?

Anything past that big wank off statue they built on the border is off limits.

>>4834241
We are more then willing too hear the 'negotation points'

>>4834242
I mean how the fuck are they gonna be able too expend the manpower/resources/ect after being btfo hoover dam.

>>4834241
Let's see the list of negotiation points, then we'll talk to ol' buddy Kimball personally over it.

>>4834251
They can't. Not if they want a secure border to the south against Legion encroachment. And this doesn't include the economic devastation we can wring out in the short term. We have the power to destabilize the region even more. It would be a mistake to piss us off.

>>4834241
Lets hear what they are willing to offer / demanding, then we can decide to tell them to fuck off or deal.

>>4834242
After this? I'm stepping up my plans for expansion: as much as I wanted to focus on getting industry up, we need to ensure we've got at least some degree of passive expansion north / east / south occurring. We need the extra land, population and resources but more importantly we have to ensure they can't surround us while we are building up.

Priorities to achieve this are:

1) Securing the capability to produce Brahmin-Wagons, river barges (preferably capable of carrying the wagons), basic tools, preserved food, tents and firearms.

2) Securing a consistent population growth factor by restarting the attraction of people from the NCR as well as the independent state of New Reno, the Shi and anywhere else we can.

3) Creating a cadre of highly skilled scout-diplomats to meet and find allies, trading partners and potential vassal states.

4) Bringing our entire military up to Kreger's training standard, if possible. Might need to instil a sense of nationalist loyalty to make them a bit cheaper on the maintenance front so we can afford such a force but the investment will be worth it to preserve lives and win battles on far frontiers.

>>4834263

>Implying anons here have the balls too actually put the squeeze on NCR after letting them walk away freely earlier.

>>4834270
I'm willing to cut the dam, put all their citizens under arrest as potential spies, saboteurs and anti-government activists while seizing all noteworthy property.

>>4834267
Ay, we need to expedite out timetable. So, Fortification Hill or Freeside administration first? Setting up a proper administration would help us exploit the potential skilled labor in Freeside very swiftly.

>>4834270
You never know what anons will do when you trigger them mate.

>>4834274
>Crimson Caravan becomes seized property
>suddenly the NCR fucking around has a silver lining

>>4834288
Fortification hill; Admin is something we've got partly finished just from having the council (since we can delegate actually forming a government to them) but the Hill could contain dozens more Securitrons as well as the capability to repair them or even produce more.

If we had that, we could just point them in a direction and say "kill"; tribes, mutants, raiders, pre-war automated defence systems; it'd all die. Means we can avoid having to improve our actual soldiers for a little longer (saving caps for industrial / other economic actions or fixing broken stuff) since they'd just need to hold ground.

>suddenly the NCR fucking around has a silver lining
Yep.

The first point is over the dam's output, specifically with water. Now, the NCR is already receiving 60% of the water, as well as purchasing another 5%. They would like to receive, without payment, a 5% increase, taking the total consumption of water production to 70%. Additionally, the NCR High Command would like to create contingency plans for potential Legion Invasions. In return, President Kimball will rescind the territorial expansion as well as also strongly urging the Crimson Caravan negotiate in a fairer manner with your government.

>>4834327
1) This implies that you are acting in concert with the Crimson Caravan Company to try to create pressure on our government and weaken us economically, or rather threaten to do so; that is a act of economic sabotage on both your and their parts; hence forth all members, properties and associate items of the Crimson Caravan Company within the borders of the New Vegas state will be seized, pending trial in the case of the former. Don't worry, we will merely exile them once their criminality is proven definitively.

We will however consider dropping the accusation against the NCR of engaging in price gouging against a near-starving population for their own political gain and profit - rather than say, disconnecting your supply as a response and announcing the reason for doing so, letting your people so just how fucking stupid Kimball is - if you drop your territorial claims to our north.

2) A increase in water consumption is understandable but I must remind you that part of the deal we had was no change in water rates or % for a year; if the NCR is so happy to redefine relationships and deals with disregard to decorum, decency and proper process, I am afraid to say we can not stand to take any deal from you regarding territorial possession beyond respecting enforced borders and the private possession of your citizens.

Further part of the logic for us accepting your rates would see an increase in consumption over time to make up the difference. Now, I admit we forced your hand on the issue but trying to strongarm us back ain't going to get you anywhere.

3) We are perfectly willing to consider contingencies for Legion activity yet as it stands, we have no reason to trust or engage with you beyond vague promises to accept aid should that time come. If Kimball wants to be seen as protecting us or as guarding against The Bull or genuinely does want cooperation, tacking it onto the end of this negotiation was unwise.


Thoughts? QM don't accept this without 100% approval.

>>4834327
>Additionally, the NCR High Command would like to create contingency plans for potential Legion Invasions.

What does that mean, specifically?

>as also strongly urging the Crimson Caravan negotiate in a fairer manner with your government

So it was your meddling that raised their prices? And after we already payed the bulk of their exorbitant prices?

You're quite a riot, Mullfeld. If you ever get out of diplomacy, you'd make a great comedian.

>>4834340
I know right, like god fucking damn: if we reveal that to the Followers, you know what they'll do? 100% packing up sticks and coming to us, declaring the NCR a fucking hell-state.

>>4834339
Hold off on telling them about our plans of seizure of Crimson Caravan property, but we can accuse them of economic espionage in the face of a starving people. Truely, what a good faith the NCR treats its neighbors with.

Second, changing a long term deal within a month or two? Such is an NCR promise I suppose.

Third, how do we supposed to trust the NCR diplomatically and militarily if you keep trying to redefine our relationship every couple of months?

This must be a joke. Why else would your administration be so willing to risk shutting off the dam if when you keep breaking your deals?

>>4834339
I should mention, it is not confirmed that they are actually performing economic sabotage or anything of the sort, it could be a genuine offer but it is a damn scary thing to threaten (knew there was something I'd forgotten from part 1; this goes into effect immediately but will be reversed dependent on terms of the deals reached) given the amount of cash we would get from taking the Crimson Caravans stocks.

TLDR: if we do it, it probably grants us a few more months of no-sell for water and power to the NCR to make them sweat and hopefully come back begging to resume trade on our terms.


I'll say though that this is the hyper aggressive "fuck you, everything you just said was offensive" way of doing things but it has worked well in past and might well work well again here. If not, we'll just negotiate to our settlement back and forth like last time.

>>4834342
no better yet make an segment with mr new vegas and tell it to the public and they will be up in arms and then flood the river to make it favorable in our terms

>>4834352
Yeah that's probably a better way of doing it honestly. Since it veils the threat against the CC company and still achieves a similar effect.

I mean in the OG version of this, we'd be imprisoning every NCR-citizen in NV territory until a settlement was reached but that seemed far too unreasonable to me since it could turn the NCR people against us.

>>4834361
Nah, just turn off the dam and say the NCR fucked up, it'll cause just as much political trouble for them without as much backlash against New Vegas. No need to take their citizens hostage, especially if it fucks with tourism. It's also amusing that they're doing their damnedest to drive us into the arms of the Bull.

We're probably going to have to deal with Kimball directly here. He must be fishing for a political win to retain his presidency.

>>4834361
At worst, the deal can leave the output price at our digression in the official deal, and we can cut our prices in half so that Kimball can maintain his presidency with a political win. This deal is contingent on the NCR agreeing that their proposed borders are agreed to be New Vegas' instead.

Control the price of our output and garenteed territory is well worth giving them more of our output at the same gross price of the original deal, at least until Kimball is confirmed for another presidential term.

>>4834327
Give me two years to stabilize Vegas, in addition to giving me time to think I thing. I need to consult with some people.

We need to buy ourselves some time

>>4834417
Honestly, if they promise to support and recognize our territorial expansion into territories of the supposed 'NCR border expansion', plus letting New Vegas control output price as apart of the deal, and I'm willing to go dirt cheap with the prices until after the next election, to the point that it will be 20-30% output for the same gross price. It's the best deal the NCR is probably going to get when it comes to the dam output, and this includes the stipulation that the Crimson Caravan not only gives us a fair and reasonable food price, but retroactively fixes the previous food deal along those same price lines.

The NCR High Command's proposal will need more illumination before we can continue dialogue on that front.

>>4834434
Sounds good so long as they strong arm the Crimson Caravan to refund the food gouging they attempted.

We should post some guards near our sharecroppers to ensure the Crimson Caravan or NCR doesnt try any bullshit.

>>4834327
Just want to throw this out there. We're capable of beating down a deathclaw bare fisted. Are you really gonna try threatening me little man?

Can we attempt to intimidate him just for fun?

>>4834441
Honestly, this comes down from Kimball himself. If there's anybody we'd want to use that flex on, it's the President of the NCR.

>>4834445
Good point. Could we have a securitron record us beating down a mother deathclaw barefisted, make several hundred holotapes to distribute throughout the NCR, then have one directly mailed to President Kimball?

We could probably do that or a 3 vs 1 in Red Lucy's pit.

Rolled 44 + 8 (1d100 + 8)

>>4834445
No care. Intimidate anyways.
Steal his hat and give him a wedgy. No one in this Embassy is strong enough to stop us, and they dont have enough bullets either.

>>4834445
>>4834448
its best if we get him to face to face no messengers just old fashion words

>>4834448
Fuck mate, we could just sell the holotapes of us doing that as a tourist souvenir. Great marketing potential, subtly highlights how capable and dangerous the Courier is, and we'll make a pretty penny on the proceeds.

>>4834452
Yea, it's probably high time we met face to face.

Who the hell is Joseph Linden?

Raul would make for a good minister of agriculture as well as ambassador/translator.

I agree that Swank should be in charge of tourism. Ring-a-ding-ding, baby!

We still need The Toaster, Nobark Noonan, & Fantastic to serve as court jesters. Rotface can be our head spy. The Forecaster's predictions could come in handy.

As for the Desert Rangers, our remnants, Boone, Harland the Ghoul survivalist from REPCONN, Meyers the vigilante from the NCRCF, Marcus, Raul, Red Lucy & her hunters, the Ne'er-do-well Nineteen, & Cass should all have something to do with their reorganization once we have some old vets jump ship.

We should take Cass to the Big Mt. Auto-Doc, & then work on getting the Bio Research Station & Auto-Doc back to the Mojave.

First thing's first, we need to checkout Bunker Hill. We should be able to investigate via securitron though since it was made for their frames.

As soon as things are stabilized & we have brahmin wagons, a motorcycle, & riverboats, we need to establish trade with New Canaanites, New Reno, Vault City, New Arroyo, The Shi, Gecko, & Flagstaff. Explore the frontiers to the North & South as well.

>>4834327
>>4834452
>>4834458
Let's fucking do it. Invite Kinbal for discussions face to face, but after we invite him to spectate on of Westside's main attractions.
1 man vs 3 deathclaws.

Actually now that I think about it, you're right. We could make so much fucking money advertising for Lucy's fight. We could make a spectator/announcer A.I. that comments on what goes on in the events over the radio for listens to listen in for, and we can expand her arena to house more seats.

>>4834464
>The Forecaster's predictions could come in handy.
My god I forgot about that kid. He has so much damn potential. We should have him see our best doctors, then see if we can give him some proper education, maybe even adopt him?

>We should take Cass to the Big Mt. Auto-Doc, & then work on getting the Bio Research Station & Auto-Doc back to the Mojave.
+1 QM if it's possible to take a person with us with the Transponder. If it works, I doubt it would take more than a day for Cass to recover.

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>>4834472
Raise or hands: who wants to sell tickets to watch the courier choke slam all the deathclaws?

Oh captain, my captain!

Which means I'm up for it.

>Courier Action
Take Cass to Big MT to get her healed, then teleport her back.

Do our friends back in the Think Tank have anything neat to talk about? News? How's Dr. Moebius?

Do that meeting with Arcade.

Find the time to visit Fortification Hill. Would this be quick, or cost a Courier action for a brief Investigation? I prefer it be quick

Get one of the Securitrons in the Novac region to approach and talk to one of the Bright Followers. Did they really reach their destination? How'd it go? Had Jason Bright ever consider wearing an Advanced Radiation suit so he doesn't kill anyone?

Is there anything really stopping us from siezing all of the assets Crimson Caravan owns in the Mojave by force, kicking them out, and using their own farms to feed our people? They're obviously price gouging us on purpose, and they have been know to do shady and underhanded dealings in the past like with Cass's old Caravan company. We could do it if we wanted to. We could roll up 50 Securitrons and 50 mercenaries from Freeside right now. Them being a trading Company they would no doubt have goods we could seize for our own gains, in addition to taking back the deed to Cass's company if it's still in that safe. Food, medicine, armor, arms, and much more could be ours.
Taking over Crimson Caravan is my Courier vote.

>Military Action
Send a Securitron to ask if any Super Mutants in Jacobstown would like to do a joint effort in finally exterminating the flying death butterflies. If we have anymore anti-venom, then lets supply those. If we don't have any, then let's invest 2,000 to buy as much anti-venom that sum of caps will get us. If we cannot teleport Cass to Big MT to get healed so she can help with the Death Butterfly issue, then replace her with Lily. If Cass is conscious to help, then send Lily to the Dam in Knox's stead. Knox will help instead of Ed-E (Max +8 combat bonus). Pull 100 Mercenaries from Freeside, and 50 securitrons from the South Mojave to help. They are not to use explosives or they may risk a cave in. ,Save the eggs for more food.

Did our men find any notes among the Powder Gangers? Any prisoners? If they have any survivors, or leads, I'd suggest they take it. 500 Caps bounty for whoever can bring us the heads of the leader of the Powder Gangers and main cabal of buddies. Doing some investigation and a momentary bonus should make it easier for our men to hunt them down.

Have Ed-E support our forces in wiping out the last of the Powder Ganger. With any hope the DT for success should be lower than 70 since we've wiped out a majority of them, and know that they prowl in the night.

Can the weapons found off the powder gangers be dissolved into our army, or are they just bringing all the loot back to us to sell?

Powder Ganger Armor has 5DT. I would hope we could retrofit some of those for our mercenaries?

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>>4834649
Deploy the Dirty Dozen to hunt down any lingering Fiend, Raider, Vipers, or Powder Gangers around the outer vegas ruins. Give them some hunting rifles with AP .308's to shoot through cover, and 9mm SMG's. They'll be leading a group of 50 mercenaries from Freeside in their endeavors. Whoever kills the most gets a set of Reinforced Leather Armor. No friendly fire doesn't count.

>Industry/Scavenge/Repair
Send the 500 sticks of dynamite to Sloan

40 Scavangers + Rex: head to Nipton for general cleanup + looting for supplies. Take 5 securitrons from the Outer Vegas Ruins and 10 mercenaries from Freeside as guards. Improved this should see an increase of better reception from travels and an increase to Vegas's profits.

40 Scavangers + Roxie: Survivalist mentioned the NCR dumping some stuff over the Dam after getting kicked out. Have them search up and down the river for anything we might have missed. Take 5 securitrons from the Outer Vegas Ruins and 10 mercenaries from Freeside as guards.
If this has already been searched thoroughly, then take all the aforementioned to H&H Tools to consolidate all the tools and robots we destroyed there.

I liked this anons suggestion for Salvage/Repair >>4833865 maybe we could do that next turn? or maybe this turn? Either/or I'd still like to send two different groups to scavange.

5 Repairmen: Keep getting trained by Raul. Perhaps Raul teach them how to fix a motorcycle for example. We get Cass her bike, and the Repairmen get more hands on experience. Raul will help too.

>handymen report of Cottonwood Cove
What is it exactly do they need, and can we throw caps at it until the problem is fixed? Ideally we want to turn Cottonwood Cove into another tourist attraction, in addition to a trading route by boat. There should be enough space for both.

>Other
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/RobCo_Industries
Mr. House owned RobCo Industries. It shouldn't be too far fetched that he would keep company secrets close to his heart, i.e. in the Lucky 38. If th Mohave is as large as we are to believe, there is probably at least one RobCo facility in the Mojave, or possible something like that in Fortification Hill. Sentry Bots, Assaultrons, that joint effort to make Liberty Prime- you name it. They've make most of all the robots you've seen in the US. When we finally get the time, we should put on some lo-fi music and browse through all his data to see what we have to work with.

>State- Francine Garret
I don't know what she should be head of state. Did someone suggest this?

>Tourism
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Tommy_Torini
Why not have this guy as head of Tourism? Or Swank?

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>>4833768
>>4834649
>>4834653
Have 5 Securitrons stationed at the entrance of Fortification hill as guards, and 5 more inside past the elevator. No one is to enter. The Securitrons are to use left over sand bags to strategically place them around the entrance, in addition to inside in case anyone gets any bright ideas. They are to also organize all the robots we destroyed/deactivated in there into a neat pile for us.

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Alien_(Fallout:_New_Vegas)
Did we ever encounter the three aliens and the crashed recon craft? LOOT!

>Medicine (I liked your suggestions so I'm stealing them)
Convert a few structures near the Old Mormon Fort into sick houses, to act as long-term care wards / patient housing. Doc Henry, begin training Freesiders in medical skills to assist the Followers. Give 20,000 caps to these efforts.

Construct multiple public latrine and public baths throughout Freeside for use without charge; preferably linked into the Vegas Sewers; this should hopefully cut down on the transmissible disease risk of Freeside. 8,000 caps to the effort.

Take Farkas's suggestion and use the money towards hiring people to move the rubble, have some securitrons that can fit kill any hostile flora/gangers, and 20 mercenaries to help when people need to enter tight spaces the robots cant reach.

Have Doctor Henry take over the Vit-o-matic and see if he can get people tested to see who has HIGH INTELLIGENCE.

>Salvage/Repair - Salvagers along with Rex and Roxie return to the task of cleaning up Freeside. Pass off easily repaired items to Repairmen and Ed-E to fix; items once fixed should either be sold (toasters, radios, hot plates, etc) or kept (energy weapons, complex electronics, manufacturing or construction equipment, etc). Any robots found, functional or not, should be kept and restored to function.

>>4833897
+1 to recruiting ghouls and Chris Haversham. We could hire ghouls to scavenge and explore hellfire levels of radioactive areas. Specifically where we nuked the legion. There's gotta be supplied all along that area waiting to be picked.

>>4834327
Schedule a chat with President Kimball in half a year so we may discuss things like gentlemen. Things will remain as they are until then.

>>4834649
You bring up a good point.

>>4834434
Include Cass's caravan deed with the fair price of food, both now and retroactively. It would be such a lovely wake up present.

>>4834327
>NCR high Command wants to turn us into a client state already with military bases.

They couldn't fucking hold the area in the first place, Nor would they be able too operate the area without shit.

Tell the NCR to fuck off and Kimball, and they can 'personally' Protect there claimed area from legion and raider attacks.

>>4834937
Is that the end goal here? Wow, they're dumber than we've thought.

>>4834955
You forgot the NCR's plan for the united states in general?

>>4834464
Joseph is the Ag minister I created because I couldn't think of any farmer that had large enough influence.

You can't take anyone with you or away from Big MT using the teleporter. The most you can do is deconstruct the different machines there and pack them up and bring them with

If Big MT is in play now, I'll post the possible endings for you anons to vote on, though I don't imagine there'll be much disagreement

Fortification Hill would require a courier Action as I plan on it being bigger than the quick little jaunt it was in the game. Crimson can be seized but do keep on mind they supply a lot of the private entities in New Vegas. The Strip, a lot of towns, etc.

Francine Garret is the State secretary because she has high charisma and a professional background of management, though like I said, literally anyone here can be changed. Just consider the consequences

Once the Powder Gangers are cleared, I'll include the loot found. It won't be too much of a step up from what you have now, but if you pull the useful components from each outfit, you could make a handful of nice uniforms.

>>4834966
To take it all over, I assume?

Unless someone voted twice, I've seen 3 votes (including from me) to make Swank the guy instead of Cachino.

>4834654
+1, but we're saying to have Doc Henry test them for training, not handle the entire administration, although he can lay down a framework.

Let's get the Auto-Doc dissasembled and reassembled at the Old Mormon Fort ASAP to help Cass out.

>>4834972
Can you tell me why Cachino we chosen for Tourism? It seems anons here can't quite grasp why that's the case, and I'm sure there's a decent reason for it.

>>4835001
The courier had more interactions with Cachino than Swank, directly assisting him in gaining the position of boss. Gomorrah also has the most paying customers out of any of the three main casinos

>>4835048
So he knows his shit. Good. As long as he increases tourism revenues, and doesn't fuck with New Vegas' people, then I'm fine with him acting in his capacity as councilman.

>>4835063
If you don't want a more family friendly New Vegas, Swank would be closer to that. Cachino knows what the people want, booze, sex and gambling.

>>4834972
>Crimson can be seized but do keep on mind they supply a lot of the private entities in New Vegas. The Strip, a lot of towns, etc.
Any more examples? Like what exactly do they supply? Can we seize all theircshit after everyone in Freeside is fed?

So you know how the lights provide either +Intelligence by 2, and +5 Science and Repair; or +2 Charisma, and +5 Speech and Barter? Could those be utilize to our advantage, like using the smart switch in all our institutions of education, and the mood switches for all the casinos?

>>4835048
>>4835063
That's a fair point.

>>4835120
It's probably best not to fuck with our logistics and supply lines atm. We'll have other opportunities to fuck over the Crimson Caravan I'm sure.

>>4835106
I do like family friendly, but money is a great incentive too. I hope Cottonwood Cove could be the family friendly attraction. Oh we should include rental canoons and kayaks for people to paddle around in, including lessons. Anyways to get both of them on board? One to direct family attractions, the other for booze, hookers, and money?

Maybe even a first gen supermutant life guard. I say first gen because their the smartest and most eloquent of mutants, in addition to just, you know, being a mutant. They could punch the lights out of any rad shark in the water.

>>4835125
Right after we get our own company, and Cass's back.

So that Rep should put in a good word to tell CC to stop fucking around. When should we schedule a meet and greet with the president? We still gonna flex on him?

>>4835120
They are the go to for what you need to buy in bulk. The casinos get their food, alcohol, drugs, clothes. Crimson also supplies a lot of the merchants with what they can't source locally.

>>4835161
Whats the law on foreign trading companies operating in the NCR? Or can we get them marked as somewhere else?

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>>4835161
God dammit. I guess we cant do anything about them yet.
How much have we invested into them? Would it be cheaper to go back to murdering wildlife for food again? Because if it's cheaper then I think we should do that. Just send a shit ton of Protectrons and merchandise mercenaries to places that we know have high animal counts. WE CAN DO IT!

>>4835166
+1

>>4835166
Well, there are none. The NCR hasn't encountered a foreign power they couldn't fight or absorb, until you. You can trade if you can find buyers, but don't expect the domestic caravans to take too kindly to it
>>4835174
Possible but another two weeks of full hunting to supply Freeside would eliminate most wildlife in the region

>>4835190
>but don't expect the domestic caravans to take too kindly to it
It's only the CC we have beef with. I think other domestic caravans would appreciate it if we took them down a peg or two. Could a courier action be used to use legal bullshit rules to cripple the CC?

Asking in theory. Changing vote to support Fortification Hill investigation.

>would eliminate most wildlife in the region
How is this bad again? Most wildlife in the wasteland wants to kill you.

>>4835197
Uhhhhh, I'm gonna say no, atleast in the NCR. You sent the evidence west, so a couple years and they'll be fucked though

So looking at turns, it seems like we're putting off creating any higher level industry for now, but we want to start on that sanitation project then? The followers will lend their expertise for it if you will provide the caps. It'll require clearing out the sewers, tunneling into them from select locations around Freeside, and constructing the large latrines.

Do you want to outlaw public dumping of waste?

>>4835302
>it seems like we're putting off creating any higher level industry for now
Didnt you say we'd need more skilled workers or something like that?

>Do you want to outlaw public dumping of waste?
Yeah.

We'll designate a temporary dump a bit far away from freeside until we can create a permanent dump/recycling zone.

>>4835302
Start the sanitation project.

Yes, for now though, we will use some carts and have them unload waste outside the city after they have take it. Since it will take awhile for the sanitation project to finish.

>>4835302
Ya give the kids something to do for like 10 caps a day.

>>4834654
We still to put some laws (beyond local rules) since we are a proper state now, hopefully before we have any other talks with other states such as the NCR. We need to look a bit proper.

Also for food beside domestication ideas for the fauna or flora of the wastelands, there is this too that can be used.

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/There_Stands_the_Grass

>>4835321
Yep, skilled workers is what is fucking you guys over right now.

As for waste disposal, it wouldn't be too hard to have like tubs put on trailers pulled by Brahmin. They can burn it in pits outside of the city. Id say this would cost 1500 caps a turn to rent the equipment and pay the burners

>>4835356
>them to enter and download the experimental data onto their Pip-Boy.
I smell potential

>>4835302
We downloaded the data, but we didnt necessarily delete the data. Maybe we only copy and pasted it, or do we still have the original data on our pip boy. Riiiiiiiiiiight?

>>4835367
>Yep, skilled workers is what is fucking you guys over right now.
Doc Henry leading the Kings in book keeping people with the Vit-o-tester when

Sounds okay to me.

>>4834434
Why do any of that though? Genuinely, we gain nothing by accepting these terms and lose even more by proposing yours.

>>4834464
>a motorcycle
Can I ask why anyone actually thinks this is a good investment of time / money? Even ignoring that its only a single bike ever being discussed, the issues with fueling it outside of friendly territory or anything else, there is also the issue that the intended user (Cass) is our minister of trade.

>>4834972
>Crimson can be seized but do keep on mind they supply a lot of the private entities in New Vegas. The Strip, a lot of towns, etc.
Counterpoint: if those entities want to receive any shipments they'd already paid for that is entirely fine, since the main point is to eliminate the company and seize assets belonging to them, not to others.

It may disrupt operations but the thing is we're doing it as a threat: if the NCR immediately capitulated, we could stipulate a return of the CC company property in return for a lot of things. Although, with consideration to >>4835161, I can see an argument against it; I must protest and state that it is better to seize their assets than to be forced into inaction by fear of what action against them could do.

It would be a difficulty if the casinos had reduced returns, given how important they are as a source of profit for us, yet it is the case that we are creating a local source of food with our agriculture and thusly in turn can produce our own alcohol and clothes in time. Alcohol being quite a easy one to begin mass production.

>>4835356
I did say combining Vault 22 and the Biological Research Station should boost our agriculture and medicine significantly.

>>4835386
The different entities are usually on contracts, a certain price for a certain amount over a certain time. Seizing the company would more or less cancel those contracts and leave a huge hole in the supply chain

>>4835371
what kind of laws could we have ?

No slavery
Free Trade
Allowed Self Defense
Volunteer Army

I think something basic like this could work, with 4-5 more. Or we could copy the law system of the NCR and cut the parts we don t want.


>>4835386
>I did say combining Vault 22 and the Biological Research Station should boost our agriculture and medicine significantly.

Well then it just needs to be written in a turn and applied. Preferably if is done as a Courier action, and with the help of Arcade.

>>4835386
>we gain nothing by accepting these terms
Agreed. We aught to flex on Kimball first.

>a motorcycle
Probably to find and buy out Happy Trails.
>fuel
Pre-war vehicles switched out from gasoline to atomic batteries that are supposed to work for a really, really long time. We could give her two spares.
If fuel becomes an issue.
Itll take a month to make it and for her to learn how to ride it, and I think Survivalist said it would take anywhere between a week and a month to contact the company.
I think they could be useful for plotting trails from the Mojave all the way to Zion valley. Buying out the company means we get all their assets and contracts. We could also buy them out probably dirt cheap since they lost some assets in the White-leg ambushes.

>Crimson
After acquiring different contractors for food and goods for Vegas in addition to getting a better food source, we could probably do that maybe two or three turns from now.

>combining Vault 22 and the Biological Research Station
How terribly unpredictable. I like it.

>>4835418
Fuck if I know anything about laws.
No slaves explicitly, but maybe indentured servants and giving criminals/prisoners the option of manual labor to work off their sentences instead of eating up resources, depending on the crimes committed. Petty theft because your family was hungry? A hours doing community service picking up garbage, then being directed to the nearest official for financial help. Murder a bunch of people and wear their skin? Life long sentence of hard labor.

>Allowed Self Defense
To a degree? Should we put a restriction of high military grade ordinance?

>Volunteer Army
Mini-militias? Police departments in each town?
Volunteer Army

>free trade
But muh taxes and tariffs

If you're guys are gonna start drafting laws, you'll need the infrastructure to support it. What will your police force be made up of, the punishment, etc.

It isn't something that needs to be done now, but you should consider the punishment for continued public dumping

>>4835443
You will be fined, 5 CAP, and be forced to pick up your garbage everytime. It's not hard to collect your trash and dump them in the local dumpster. If you dont have 5 caps, you gotta pick up your garbage and other people's garbage for somewhere between 15 to 30 minutes. Because it's just 5 caps.

>>4835432
i am neither good with it, but we need something. If not now soon. Even if it s basic it would help honestly.

I can agree with that line of punishments for those crimes.

I suppose high tier should be of the military only. Anything else sure, wastelands aren t safe. But they will be soon with us.

Militias in each town would be nice, we wouldn t need too many men from our army to go and protect them. And we can better patrol and control other parts of the Mojave.
A volunteer army would probably be the best for work in the creation of a professional army. If we can get the BOS to integrate fully, maybe we can work with them for work on producing again better military equipment.


It s more for attract more merchants, maybe we can have small taxes and tarrifs on it.

The NCR has more merchants than just the CC. We can get booze from the Wrights of New Reno, sell excess water to the Hub Water Merchants, buy/sell guns & ammo to the Gun Runners, & get the rest from the FarGo Traders. The Shi's radiation consuming vines could be useful as well. Vault City has medical tech, Redding has mining equipment, Gecko has nuclear engineer ghouls, & the Bishops likely have plenty to offer as well. Not to mention Legion territory caravans, New Canaanites, New Arroyo, Mexicos, etc.

Let's not repeat the mistakes of the old world and allow people to become completely reliant upon the system. Self-sufficiency is the key to survival, hence why the sharecroppers should eventually earn their own land, any & all weaponry beyond WMDs should be obtainable, duels should be encouraged/legal, hunting/survival should be a right of passage, & militias & roaming vigilantes should handle the law.

As for duels, simply require an agreed upon time, place without risk of harm to bystanders, weapon if any, conditions, neutral witness in the form of a desert ranger/securitron/militiaman, & a witness from each party.

I agree on utilizing convicts rather than imprisoning/enslaving them, but death should certainly be a penalty for heinous crimes, via public execution.

Free trade internally, but restrict it externally, meaning preventing parties like CC from buying out local companies & having public figures in their pockets, as well as retaining the right to apply tariffs at our borders. The only regulations we need on direct trade of goods internally are checking on the authenticity/health effects of the products. That doesn't mean outlawing chems, just ensuring that that hit of jet is genuine brahmin fumes rather than being cut with filler gecko fumes; you'll probably have a heart attack either way, but you know what you're getting. Fuck income taxes, & sales taxes should only be applied by communities, if at all. The utilities we provide can be charged for or provided for free. Better yet, charge Westside & Nellis for our power & water, but give it for free to our communities.

>>4835371
You copied all data to your pip boy before deleting it and wiping the vault of spores

>>4835550
This has some good and bad points. It would be smart to dedicate another courier action in study thecsupply chains to replace them with different companies, then slam the CC the same month.
Not so sure about vigilanteism and duels. We need properly trained officers or re-established law enforcers handling towns

>but death should certainly be a penalty for heinous crimes, via public execution.
But that's an easy out. Why shorten their punishment when you can extend it for years, while profiting off their suffering? They could literally pay for their crimes.

I forgot our term with Westside but isnt Nellis fully independent? They have their own crops, power grid with solar panels. Presumably their own water generator.

>>4835552
Give it to Doc Henry please.

>>4835419
>Agreed. We aught to flex on Kimball first.
Nah, I want to do more than just flex: I want Kimball to have to issue a public apology for this sort of grandstanding; ideally, we'd even get monetary compensation or raise the rates on the dam even higher (8 caps for power and 5 for water now NCR) on the basis that the prior rates were given with respect to the NCR as a nationstate that upheld their deals reasonably, as opposed to how they have conducted themselves.

>Probably to find and buy out Happy Trails.
Seems pointless to spend actions producing a custom vehicle just for that purpose; send a courier or something instead and save our technical experts for important purposes.

>gasoline to atomic batteries that are supposed to work for a really, really long time. We could give her two spares. If fuel becomes an issue.
Counter-point: those atomic batteries aren't a good thing to use because all the pre-war ones destabilised over time (this is the in-lore explanation for explosive vehicles) meaning we'd be handing over 2-3 small nuclear devices that risk going off at any time if shot or sufficiently mishandled.

>I think they could be useful for plotting trails from the Mojave all the way to Zion valley. Buying out the company means we get all their assets and contracts. We could also buy them out probably dirt cheap since they lost some assets in the White-leg ambushes.
I entirely agree with buying out the company and expanding in that direction, I just don't see the motorbike as a cost-effective use of resources, time or persons.

>After acquiring different contractors for food and goods for Vegas in addition to getting a better food source, we could probably do that maybe two or three turns from now.
Counterpoint: we are imminently going to resolve our food situation to at least some degree and can certainly invest further; similarly, we can certainly create some stills and take care of our own booze needs; that just leaves drugs and clothes.

Drugs should hopefully be sustainable off of the Fiend and Powder Ganger's own supply for a little while, while we broadcast demands for X substances at Y prices in Z quantities into the NCR as well as north / south and even east. Potentially could set up local production of some chems but access to constituent chemicals for everything besides jet is something I don't know about us having.

Clothes should be far slower to run out given their nature, meaning we've even longer to develop a solution or source alternate supplies; ideally we'd convert part of our agriculture to production of fabric and have a few tailors supply demand instead.

TLDR: We can probably jump off of the CC's supply line without too much trouble if we're lucky with the dice. If not, I'd say we'd be 3-4 months away from being free of side-effects that hit us (as in casino tribute) but the actual customers may well be suffering still. I'd still do it even in the latter case just to fuck the NCR over.

>>4835631
Almost everyone in the wasteland travels on foot. Having a vehicle would cut travel time exponentially, meaning you could travel to another state in maybe under a day. Vehicles would allow us to do buisness more frequently with other nations, plus the bike can be put towards other uses afterwards, like courier soccer can travel too and from Zion in under a month, then immediately put to use the knowledge on how to raise friendly geckos.
It would also give our repairmen morechands on experience that they could them use to repair and refurbish more vehicles, such as trucks that could be used to ferry more goods than brahmin more frequently.

>gas and batteries
Got sauce for the exploding cars? If its such an issue then we could use power Cores, or MFC's. Give Cas about 100 and she should be good to go.

>food
Majority seemed to had voted for Fortification Hill despite other more prominent issues, and the food problem should already be solved in the next update I think.

Maybe we shouldnt sell chems in vegas? The whole homeless issue and all in Freeside.

>>4835631
Pretty much revamp vehicles like this
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Highwayman
Replaceable fuel cells, use energy fuel cells/batteries that arent fucked, put in redundancies to make it not explode.
At the very least it's only the abandoned 200 year vehicles that are prone to explode. The Choosen One never had issues of his car exploding on him when he traveled, so why should we?
Thinking on this again maybe getting Cass a car would be better than a motorcycle. More space for cargo, passengers, and potentially more protection.

>>4835550
>The NCR has more merchants than just the CC.
Exactly! The CC is one of the biggest but we can certainly replace them with others (or even form the New Vegas Trading Company, to replace them ourselves). Even if we might suffer short-term, long term it is far better for us to do this now.

>Let's not repeat the mistakes of the old world and allow people to become completely reliant upon the system.
Implying that was the issue. Besides that I agree with most of what you say but would argue allowing roaming vigilantes and militia to handle Law and Order ain't the best idea if we want Justice.

>Free trade internally, but restrict it externally
Eh; I disagree at least for now since we're dependent on a lot of outside suppliers. Once we start growing and can produce more industrial / complex goods ourselves we can start a transition to tariffs and other such limitations.

>>4835646
>Almost everyone in the wasteland travels on foot. Having a vehicle would cut travel time exponentially, meaning you could travel to another state in maybe under a day. Vehicles would allow us to do business more frequently with other nations, plus the bike can be put towards other uses afterwards, like courier soccer can travel too and from Zion in under a month, then immediately put to use the knowledge on how to raise friendly geckos.
I suppose but as a counterpoint, we could achieve most of the same effect far easier just by producing some riverboats since it's far easier to produce a decent boat than a decent motorbike. Would also be far more useful in terms of improving trade / communication since it could transport more than one-or-two people at a time.

>It would also give our repairmen more hands-on experience that they could them use to repair and refurbish more vehicles, such as trucks that could be used to ferry more goods than brahmin more frequently.
That is a horrible use of our limited staff capable of restoring technology; we've only a half-dozen and they should be employed full-time restoring pre-war industry or maintaining what exists.

>Majority seemed to had voted for Fortification Hill despite other more prominent issues, and the food problem should already be solved in the next update I think.
Yep but the food production is going to come online slowly thanks to that shit roll to my understanding so we're probably going to want to invest further to generate a greater surplus; as to Fortification Hill, securing it is important since we've no idea what is in there but QM has been talking it up as a big goody bag which could seriously change the balance of power (e,g 800 more Securitrons or something; which'd let us tell the NCR to fuck off until they give us a better deal for example or let us aggressively expand east).

>Maybe we shouldnt sell chems in vegas? The whole homeless issue and all in Freeside.
We've no laws against it, its a major industry / pastime of the people and most importantly, its a source of tourist income.

>>4835709
>Boats
Does anyone have a river map of of the Colorado river? I dont know how far it stretches, but a boat still cant go inland. They're only half a solution. We can build both cars and boats, boats being more readily available as all we'd need to do is buff out the rust, patch the holes, replace some electronics and repair the engine. We could also charge a premium for truck or car delivery services due to being able to deliver important goods and parcels within a week.
Also we could armor the fuck out of cars and ram people.
Theres also the fact that there might be some large things from Sentinel we might want to take back with us, but cant due to the space limitation of the vertibird.

>That is a horrible use of our limited staff capable of restoring technology
The 5 guys we have are no were near as good as Raul. They've only just received a month or two worth of training. Restoring prewar industrial machines would be better left to the Enclave, BoS, us, Raul, or other independent handymen.

>chems
Yeeeaaahhh but I'm not so sure the followers would appreciate it. I guess it should in theory be fine, but still. It doesnt paint much of a family friendly picture. Maybe the excessive drugs and sex could be more discrete?

>>4835552
Do we have the Pimpboy or the classic Pipboy?
Can we pimp out our Pimpboy to play holotape games?
Can we turn it into a recording device or radio transceiver so we can talk to people instead of only listening in?
Can we invent a left handed power fist so we can duel wield power fists?

>>4835749
>Does anyone have a river map of of the Colorado river?https://www.usgs.gov/media/images/colorado-river-basin-map-0
https://geology.com/lakes-rivers-water/nevada.shtml

https://www.mapsofworld.com/usa/topographic-maps/nevada-topo-map.html

The first two are good maps for seeing just how far river transport can take us: although I'd add further if you cross-reference with a topography / road map (3rd link) you'll see that transport by land is going to be a hard thing to do because we're travelling across some of the most mountainous terrain you can reasonably encounter in the US.

Further, populations will naturally have accumulated along the rivers for the ease of access to water, to game (who also gather to the water), to trade (for ease of moving goods by boat) and thus not having the greatest transport across land isn't a massive hindrance immediately.

I admit, land transport must come in time but right now we need maximum effect for minimum cost and minimum time-investment to precipitate growth; we don't even need engines in our boats for them to be effective trade craft but if we wanted to, a boat engine can be far heavier (because of buoyancy) meaning greater safety and lower precision without being unfeasible.

I also grant you, it is possible we will find items we can't move that we want to but equally if our intent is to expand into these regions then establishing secure outposts at those locations wouldn't be a bad idea either. We can deal with such needs as they arise but as it currently stands for trade the rivers shall provide and the Brahmin shall suffice for whatever landed needs we find.

>The 5 guys we have are no were near as good as Raul.
They are still some of the best in the wastes because Raul is one of the best in the wastes. Don't undersell their skills.

>Restoring prewar industrial machines would be better left to the Enclave, BoS, us, Raul, or other independent handymen.
1, Enclave we have are all non-engineering staff; 2, dependency on BOS is bad given they won't always want to help and might be considering betraying us; 3, we can't be everywhere or do everything, having to maintain and restore industry isn't a feasible use of our limited time; 4, Raul is only one man and even more limited than the Courier; 5, refer to the my response to previous quotation from you, our repair men are some of the best in the wastes so any independents aren't likely to be better than them and will most likely cost more.

>Yeeeaaahhh but I'm not so sure the followers would appreciate it.
Then they are free to form a teetotaller league.

>It doesnt paint much of a family friendly picture
>Vegas
>Family Friendly

>>4835791
Awesome map. That gives us a lot of trading potential to expand on. I just hope that means we happen to find Happy Trails on the way. Maybe we might if we roll particularly well.

>some of the 5 repair men in the wastes
Still only 5 guys, with only 1-2 months of mechanics training. They still gotta long ways to go.

No if we can actually get someone smart to man the Vigor-Tester machine, we can more accurately throw smart guys at Raul to train. Maybe in a year (being really optimistic here) we can get barely certified people to work in industrial machines, in the 2-3 more years get those same guys (if they live long enough) to replace the guys working the dam.

Let's not forget about our ghoul friends. Ghouls are an untapped market. Some probably had technical oppupaitons before the bombs, plus some more they picked up throught the centuries.

>Vegas
>Family Friendly
Kek I see your point, but I'd still like to see someone take their family some place in vegas. Maybe not the Stripe, but perhaps to Novac, Primm, or Cottonwood Cove when we refurbish it.

Hmmm. Think there might be any smart gen 1 super mutants at J Town?

>>4835820
>Awesome map. That gives us a lot of trading potential to expand on.
Yep, it also shows how if we can project military and economic power along the rivers, we can seriously fuck with the Legion while securing lots of friendly tribes / New Caanites.

>Still only 5 guys, with only 1-2 months of mechanics training. They still gotta long ways to go.
Oh no I agree but my point is these ARE some of the best you can get, even as unexperienced and undertrained as they are, because someone who actually knows their shit bothered to teach them Ohm's law and shit.

>No if we can actually get someone smart to man the Vigor-Tester machine, we can more accurately throw smart guys at Raul to train.
Oh I agree, I'm just saying we've got to marshal our limited resources well.

>Ghouls are an untapped market.
Oh you've no idea: I've a theory that biogel combined with half-decent plastic surgery might be able to fix the whole "corpse" look and Ghouls ought to pay a fortune to look more normal.

>Novac, Primm, or Cottonwood Cove
I'd say Cottonwood, since it's next to the river and you could easily make it into a whole resort but equally Boulder City once restored could become a similar place.

Issue I see is that we're probably not attractting immigration / families what with us being Legion-adjacent; if we start pushing east people might feel more safe visiting NV because of the border being further away.

>>4835838
>map
Damn man now you got me all excited. We need armoree patrol boats while we're at it. Yeeeaaaahhhh!

>some of the best
I got low expectations of them. Maybe they are actually pretty good, but I've yet to see results, so maybe we could hire some ghouls as technical teachers. This way we can train more than 5 repairmen at a time with any hope.

>Oh you've no idea: I've a theory that biogel combined with half-decent plastic surgery might be able to fix the whole "corpse" look and Ghouls ought to pay a fortune to look more normal.
A god damn power play right there. Throw in unfucking their voice so they dont sound like they smoke 50 packs a day, and we're golden.
We'd need to research the procedure however. Maybe we could ask our science buddies at the think tank to make us a transponder gun that teleporta people we aim at to a secure test facility in Big MT. They'll probably be happy to get test subjects to work on, but not so sure if they'd follow our guidelines of developing and unfugly ghoul medical procedure. Once we get the guide and materials, we could drop it all off at the New Vegas Clinic, then score massive ghoul loyalty points from all the same ghouls in vegas.

IMO we should really only advertise for immigrants once we've got our industry going and can repair buildings. Legion shouldnt be too much of a problem for us. We've already nuked a good stretch of them, remember? Speaking of nukes we seriously need to loot that region while it's still hot. We could even arm up and ask the Glow followers to do it for us.

I think the circumstances necessitate a state visit by President Kimball. He'll want to come sooner rather than later, so two months is the timeframe we're working with I think. In the meantime, I trust you won't try to rapidly expand north and ruin the spirit of these negotiations. Please remember that I personallydidn't claim that territory, my job is keeping diplomatic relations between you and the NCR.

>>4835772
Yes, with personal alterations yes, If Father Elijah could do it you probably could, yeah that would probably be possible too


Alright do we have anything agreed upon for turns. Seems like
>the courier is exploring Fortification Hill
>the Dirty Dozen is deploying north with 40 Securitrons to wipe out the nests
>we're meeting with Arcade
>talk with the Bright Followers
>1000 caps to pay for clearing the sewers, will take a month
>1500 caps a turn to pay for waste transportation
Julie Farkas will provide the cost estimate and timeframe for bathhouse system next turn
>Raul continues his training
>Doc Henry starts studying Vault 22 data
>500 caps to clean up Nipton of bodies and rubble
>Continue Powder Ganger operation in the South

Did I miss anything

>>4835895
>I trust you won't try to rapidly expand north and ruin the spirit of these negotiations.

No just your fucking ''president' will do everything in his fucking power too, Because his a bitch nigger.

Get the Enclave our gunssss

>>4835895
I feel then need to make a clear and unequivocal threat to the NCR and Kimball explicitly.

Something along the lines of "If your president and republic makes the mistake of crossing Vegas, I will show you that the legion's idea of dealing with you is nothing compared to my own."

>>4835895
The dirty dozen was swapped out for regular guys because you said they're good for urban environment. You noted this already.
Get the DD to deal with remaining fiends and raiders. Take some mercs with them.
Disolve P Ganger armor for Merc armor armor?
Have 80 scavagers + 2 dog do as >>4833865 suggested, or split them up to look Nipton and along the river for shit the NCR threw over the dam.
What happen to P Ganger loot?
Have Lily, Ed-E, and or maybe Knox deal with the nest too.
Have like 2 securitrons from the dam stationed at the entrance to fortifcation hill, and 2 down by the elevator entrace. Get them to place sandbag cover.
Attempt the Vigor Tester machine again.
Get Mr. New Vegas to annouce job opportunities for ghouls.
Have a Securitron find and recruit Chris Haversham (human roleplaying as a ghoul)
Ask Red Lucy to schedule a cage match for us against deathclaws in two months
Is Doc Henry's ghoul assistant still working for him?

Rolled 33 (1d100)

>>4835895
Bully and intimidate diplomat. Wedgie and wet willy.
Take a piece of paper, write the word nerd on it, tape it into a cone, and tell him to wear it for the rest of the day.

>>4835885
>We need armored patrol boats while we're at it.
Yep; personally I advise arming them with weapons stripped from broken Securitrons; their shoulder mount missiles and Gatling lasers would work well.

>IMO we should really only advertise for immigrants once we've got our industry going and can repair buildings.
I disagree, advertise now to get people who might have skills we need for our industry and for general population to tax. Every person consuming and generating is another person we can tax, recruit and rely on.

>>4835914
>I feel then need to make a clear and unequivocal threat to the NCR and Kimball explicitly.
Just threaten to cut the dam supply, maybe mention "further actions taken as needed" to let them stew in unknowns.

>>4835922
Ah I thought the DD was for the Powder Gangers. They would actually be useful for burning the nests.

The PG armor will be given next turn after they're finished clearing out the mountains

>>4835895
The letter to Heck Gunderson and the results.

>>4835944
If the DD give the+2 bonus, then sure deploy them. Give them Med-x and antivenom, about 500 caps worth each drug. We can afford it.
Can we still have mercs crawl through the ruins for the remaining fiends?

>>4835939
Not really "Clear" threats.
Something direct and personal that promised to reach further into the NCR than the wasteland.


And here's a thought, we could enlist Jacobstown to retrieve some of those warheads from the divide, box em up and have them ready to be carted over to Route 15.

I think the detonator would make a wonderful tool in that.

>>4835944
Does this mean the DD get a +2 combat bonus for urban and underground environments? We should get them full face rebreathers. Are capable of crafting those rebreather designs we got from the boomer's? They allow you to breath underwater near indefinitely, in addition to giving you +2 DT I think.

>>4835951
+1 we ask the ghouls and super mutants to work together, but instead of shipping it to route 15, we hide it away somewhere for safe keeping. We could just off handlly mention that threating our territory might be radiactively unhealthy, and mention how most of the legion mysteriously suffered from radiation poisoning out of the blue.

Ya know, off handed threaten that we have nukes and we will and can use then if they attempt an invasion.

You guys cutting them dam supply seem to forget that it's NCR's contractors doing the labor to work it. We do that and they are gonna bounce.

I'm the guy that wants to buy them out btw

>>4835960
+1

>>4835895
The contractors are at the dam. See if we can buy them out. We'll pay extra for them to teach people how to do their jobs.

>>4835960
Maybe. But if it's war anyway, we will explain the situation to them.

That situation is "Look, either I can buy you out. Or I'm going to take you behind the watershed and put a .50 cal between your eyes. Those are your options."

In times of invasion, enemies in our most secure location of our territory is not to be allowed.

>>4835958
A dangerous ploy, but one that works.

>>4835951
>Something direct and personal that promised to reach further into the NCR than the wasteland.
And threatening to cut their access to the dam that is providing them 65% of its water supply and similarly for power ISN'T a significant threat that "reaches into the NCR"?

>And here's a thought, we could enlist Jacobstown to retrieve some of those warheads from the divide, box em up and have them ready to be carted over to Route 15.
Nah, if we're going to bother with going into the Divide there are far better things to grab, like the automated production lines of eyebot models which apparently can share Ed-E's memories. Combine them with getting either the BOS / Followers upgrade onto all of them (read this as + if we can figure out a way to get the other, since you in-game can only get one but we should be able to buy it from the BOS or convince the Followers to give it to us).

That'd give us a bunch of robots capable of repairing items by 35%, generating 35 energy ammo or flamer fuel or 3 satchel charges, that also provides an effective 10 PER to anyone working with it. It's also got a strong attack at 20 damage, and seeing as it in-lore is a miniaturised tesla canon, should do extra damage to power armour and robots. Also means that we could enhance its attack even further by integrating the design changes of the Tesla-Beaton design as well as the improvements made by Elijah in his jury-rigged design (given it has higher stats in some regards, it is possible he improved it or merely overloaded it since it wasn't particularly precious to him, either way potential further improvement).

>TLDR: We shall have the best companion robot army; may the NCR tremble in fear at the sound of their [Beeps].

>>4835958
Okay, assuming they even believe the bluff of having nukes and being able to launch them against the NCR, I imagine that'd still just push them to try more shit against us. Also really bad PR to threaten nukes in this world.

>>4835960
That implies we'd let them leave.

>>4835958
+1

>>4835972
We can do that. It's in our power to do so, it might even be done. No good for diplomacy and no good for the labor pool though.

We're underestimating NCR's power of beuracracy, which is quite frankly a spook and an illusion. It shouldn't be hard to convince them to stay with just a speech check and a good deal for they and their families.

We don't have to threaten them at all and the Courier's action would never be wasted maintaining this kind of human resource.

>>4835986
Honestly yeah; I mean we're paying 50% of upkeep costs currently, if we decide to take the NCR staff and tell the NCR "you've got to pay for every drop and spark now you bastards", what would they even do?

>>4835981
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/ED-E
We can get both eventually, but I guess it'll depend on what the majority votes on, nukes first or Eyebots.
Our Ed-E already has the blaster upgrade, now it's only a matter of time of figuring out what we should trade to get it. (>>4835944 Still waiting on that BoS trade list btw)

>and ED-E became the last surviving model. Whitley uploaded an enormous amount of valuable data on Poseidon Energy and his duraframe research into ED-E's logs,[4][5] then dispatched it on a cross-country journey to Navarro.
A fun note. We should have a HUGE cache of data in Ed-E and he's sort of Enclave affiliated.

I just wonder what we need to trade for that final armor upgrade. An Ed-E with a total of 7 upgrades would be almost as monstrous as the MKII Securitrons. We'll be able to dominate the land and the air with our robot army.

>>4835981
No it isn't. It's a threat that if enacted would cause a lot of trouble and would ripple across NCR but it isn't quite the message I'm trying to get across.

To make like Ulysses, there is power in symbol and an active attack against their hearts, terror bombs or assassinations, are much more real than cutting off their water.

And yes, this eye bot idea is good, the nukes were more a deterrence/morale breaking/space buyer.

>>4835986
What do you mean by "underestimating an illusion"?

>>4836005
An illusion. Like Ulysses, Cass, and so many others tell you: NCR is so mired up in paperwork and expansion that they make a lot of the same mistakes the Old World made. If you've ever played Stellaris there's a penalty for overexpansion that grows if you don't keep up administration facilities, it's the same concept.

In reality, the paperwork is an illusion. It's basically backed up by nothing (like real life lol) which is why the exchange rate on NCR notes is pretty much abysmal anywhere not in their territory... QM, how do those contractors get paid anyway?

We have everything we need to keep the co tractors here, and to make it seem like it was their idea to do so in the first place.

>>4836005
>It's a threat that if enacted would cause a lot of trouble and would ripple across NCR
It's a threat that if enacted would turn the entire wastes against us, see the BOS and Followers turn against us with good certainty.

>To make like Ulysses, there is power in symbol and an active attack against their hearts, terror bombs or assassinations, are much more real than cutting off their water.
Yet cutting their water and power is a more effective actual threat against the NCR because it does far more damage to their nation state but even more importantly than that, rather than damaging the nationstate it cuts into the popularity of their government and president. It weakens them, their party and their supporters (as Kimball relies on the wealthy elite made up of rich cattle barons and farmland owners for support) which is the serious threat to them.

Threatening to nuke them sounds entirely unlikely and unfeasible that someone suggesting they could do it, even if the possibility of them doing it is terrifying, registers more like a bad joke.

If I threaten to shoot you, that is a threat. If I threaten to call an airstrike down to kill you, that is a sign of insanity.


If you want alternative threats, we could threaten to advance along the I-15 in order to secure our own territorial claims and state that although we will stop short of the NCR's heartland, any territory claimed in the Mojave campaign will be considered territory of the Mojave Peoples Union (this name being taken to give a legitimacy to our claim to it).

Alternatively we could threaten to have the Boomers use their bomber to perform raids against the NCR capital with chemical weapons or high explosive bombs.

>As the nature of Duraframe is left ambiguous, it is unclear whether it is an engineering process, model name or advanced material similar to Saturnite. Utilized in the reinforcement of combat model Eyebots and the construction of Hellfire power armor, sizable amounts of Duraframe technology can apparently be reproduced by factions like the Brotherhood of Steel.
God I hope we reach a level of industry to the point we won't have to rely on the BoS. They're nice sometime, but not all the time.

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Saturnite
When we finally get around to making standard issue wargear for our troops, what kind of weapons should we get? I was thinking some form of rifle plus Saturnite bayonets.

>>4836030
>QM, how do those contractors get paid anyway?
Anon asking the big questions. If they're worried about their families back in NCR territory, they could move them to Vegas. They'll get payed well in the reliable cap, get to work with cool death bots, and get to watch us slap dump giant scorpions on TV once we figure out how to restore cable broadcasts.

>Yet cutting their water and power is a more effective actual threat against the NCR because it does far more damage to their nation state but even more importantly than that, rather than damaging the nationstate it cuts into the popularity of their government and president. It weakens them, their party and their supporters (as Kimball relies on the wealthy elite made up of rich cattle barons and farmland owners for support) which is the serious threat to them.
Yep yep yep. We're all making some very fair points here. Nuking has some ups and downs. Threatening to cut off water and power has it's ups and downs. The NCR cannot feasibly take us on without losing more than they stand to gain.

>>4836042
>The NCR cannot feasibly take us on without losing more than they stand to gain.
Yeah that is the biggest takeaway from all of this. I mean the best way to look at it is this: A Securitron can tank 30 damage with its DT of 30 and has 400 health + healing. A NCR service rifle does 18 damage even when it crits. Even if they were to load AP bullets, that only lets them do 2.85 damage which even rounding up means they'd need more than 120 shots into a single Securitron without it healing and without them missing. Their rifles only contain 20 shots at any one time.

This means that 6 NCR soldiers could unload their guns and a Securitron would still be standing. Hell, considering it's firing rockets, grenades, 9mm bullets and lasers back, all 6 of them managing to survive long enough to fully unload is miracle.


Who knows what lies in Fortification Hill. A few hundred Securitrons? A production line? Both? Yet more than I propose, more than I can hope to imagine? The mind boggles at the possibilities yet I constrain such hopes in the knowledge QM won't make it that easy on us.

>>4836054
https://docs.google.com/document/d/14tz0gVSkXHUbD2ljci0xHzowGXVo_7OWZ4Y-veNxYu0/edit
I smell a chance of great technological advancement to be had. With all of Ed-E's data on Poseidon Energy, and whatever data Mr. House has in regards to RobCo Industries, we'll have enough knowledge to keep both the NCR and Legion at bay. It's only a matter if figuring out what Harkis is up to and if Veronica can figure it out. >>4835895 are we waiting for that update for your next post, or the one after?), and acquiring the work force to supply our factories.

>>4835895
Give Rex and Roxie lots of belly rubs

>>4835386
>Why do any of that though? Genuinely, we gain nothing by accepting these terms and lose even more by proposing yours.

The ability to control prices, as a part of the official deal. We can jack up our prices afterwards on our own accord, as it wouldn't be deal mandated that we give more of our output away for free. It'll give us some flexibility and leverage when it comes to political deals such as this. The new New Vegas borders bit was to make sure our expansion north is clear, and make it seem like price control wasn't our real goal, but territory (territory is still important though).

You trap them with a deal they can't refuse.

>>4835895
>In the meantime, I trust you won't try to rapidly expand north and ruin the spirit of these negotiations.

I don't blame or distrust you personally, Ambassador. It's your government that have given cause for such mistrust.

We need boots on the ground to confirm a lack of NCR presence in those territories. I don't trust Kimball as far as he can throw us.

>>4836143
+1

>>4836147
>We need boots on the ground to confirm a lack of NCR presence in those territories. I don't trust Kimball as far as he can throw us.
I think we all feel the same way. We should mention that Kimball should at the very least thank us for saving him against all those assassination attempts against him.

>>4836147
Except we already have the ability to control prices. We just agreed to not change prices for a year. They've broken terms by demanding additional power for free, so we're arguably already free of that limitation even. Your deal just doesn't make sense, all you do is make Kimball (the fucker causing our issues) all the more secure in his position of power.

We can all agree on these points at least?
>no changes to price
>fuk no Vegas ain't part of NCR f8 me bish
>if they try to pull back the engineers we'll try to hire them and keep them there at gun point
>agree to meet and chat with Kimball in two months

>Deathclaw MMA Fight when he arrives, televised to him via Securitrons into the embassy & around New Vegas

If we didn't select a courier action, we need that auto-doc ASAP. Comas are not good for people.

>>4836167
Either the Auto Doc or the Bio station should be selected next turn.
We could probably negotiate with Lucy to get a pay of the cut if we're able to broadcast the fights. Normal rates to watch in person, maybe 75% cap charge to watch on TV and make it pay per view.

>>4836167
Okay but counterpoint: we're going into Fortification Hill which means by the time he arrives we should know what lies in there; what Mr House bothered building a entire bunker to protect (a bunker QM has promised is far larger than in-game).

Rather than seeing the Courier as some undying superman, we'll just invite him to come see us give a speech to our people as it is broadcast via radio, as well as from Black Mountain's radio relays.


Then we give a good old fashioned speech about the strength of the union, the growth of New Vegan (pronounced Vae-gan, not Vee-gan) capabilities and the end of the hunger issues; that a golden age is dawning, etc, etc; then we talk about the NCRs recent dealings with us, the grandstanding, the price gouging and their attempt to threaten more water out of us, breaking existing deals.

Then we tell our people not to worry, and speak of what we found in Fortification Hill...Before having a grand military parade, as hundreds of robots in unburnished paint and undented metallic glory roll on by, stop in formation and as one pronounce "Awaiting Orders!"

What is more terrifying? One undying soldier, to be subsumed by the masses of your nation? Or an army of hundreds that can take a dozen men to the grave under the best circumstances, that marches without hunger or thirst, without need for sleep nor shelter and cares naught for fear nor radiation. That take lead like men take rain and spits death in all forms.

>>4836152
We'll do that in person. In the meantime, we should sink our claws into the brahmin barons, try and elite capture them.

>>4836156
If we agreed to not change prices as part of a deal, then we don't have control of the price do we? If we make our control of the price the deal instead of the price itself, then we don't have to revisit the same deal every couple of months because some hotshot thinks he can pull on over on us.

There's also the PR to consider here as well. I would prefer the NCR to make the first overt bad faith move, so we can spin our grievances as legitimate in the eyes of both the people of New Vegas and the NCR, and I don't think diplomatic jockeying will give us that gold nugget of a cause.

A bit of a sidenote- we don't know who the challenger for Kimball is. For all we know, Kimball may be preferable, as much of a slimeball as he is.

We're going to have to get involved with NCR politics, at least on a presidential level.

>>4836182
Eh, maybe? I'm not on board with this, but I'm not against it either. I want to see what's in this bunker first. Luckily we'll have 1 or 2 months to figure out what to say.

Shouldnt our trained soldiers be done cooking now? If the washout rates were 30% and their training 30 of them at a time, that leave 21 fully trained soldiers.

Very well put, but that'll either intimidate the BoS or drive them to attack us ASAP.

My last post was in regards to a Securitron parade.

>>4836182
Why not both?

>>4836186
>If we agreed to not change prices as part of a deal, then we don't have control of the price do we?
We set the prices, thus we had control. If I have an apple orchard and make a deal with you to sell you them at 7 caps, that is me setting the price.

>I would prefer the NCR to make the first overt bad faith move
They already did: they have breached the terms of the dam contract and are unjustly claiming our borderlands.

>A bit of a sidenote- we don't know who the challenger for Kimball is. For all we know, Kimball may be preferable, as much of a slimeball as he is.
And equally they may be worse; arguing that a unknown is in your favour ain't a great idea.

>>4836194
True but as far as the BOS are concerned, attacking us now just means we turn all of our resources against them. We pushed the NCR out of New Vegas and they didn't think they could handle the NCR. Why would they want to tussle now?

Plus, I'd imagine the BOS are smart enough to know in a fight between a BOS soldier and a Securitron, it might be even odds but there ain't going to be just A securitron nor is even such even exchange rates acceptable for an order with so few members.

Best case for the BOS would be them beating us with minimal losses before getting eliminated by the NCR.

>>4836186
We saves Heck Gunderson's son so I think that makes us at least more than acquaintances with the man, maybe friends? He could be our in, and he could visit us my a monthly or bi-monthly based to take about our buisness relations in addition to chilling at the Tops. Where there are no cannibals.

>>4836194
God I hope they try. We should equip some securitrons with anti-pulse defenses (immunity or more DT against pulse weapons) in addition to giving them pulse weaponry to disable power armor. To add insult to injury we'll take their power armor from them, pick them up, dust off their shoulders, and send them back home to hidden valley, naked. They get expertly humiliated, Veronica doesnt leave us for killing her family, and we get more sets of Power Armor for our army.

>>4836199
When I speak of control I mean the ability to have a flexible price instead of adhering to the price set within the deal itself mate.

Diplomatic jockeying won't say the masses, we're going to need a human cause for the best PR spin.

And Kimball's constituency is based off of agriculture and brahmin barons interests, which we can influence more so than we would with other constituents. Don't throw out the baby with the bath water.

>>4836200
Offer Gunderson a favorable water deal for cattle (and covert political influence), and the other baron would notice and want the same deal. We could wield an outsized influence over internal NCR politics than we would otherwise, speaking from a realpolitik perspective.

>>4836212
>Offer Gunderson a favorable water deal for cattle (and covert political influence), and the other baron would notice and want the same deal. We could wield an outsized influence over internal NCR politics than we would otherwise, speaking from a realpolitik perspective.
A good plan if we manage to convince them to come visit.

>>4836212
>When I speak of control I mean the ability to have a flexible price instead of adhering to the price set within the deal itself mate.
Then you are being a pedant and foolish.

>Diplomatic jockeying won't say the masses, we're going to need a human cause for the best PR spin.
It will when we talk about them trying to take production of the dam for free, basically acting as overblown raiders, and them being responsible for the Crimson Caravan's high prices as a negotiation tactic; even if it ain't the case in the latter one it is fine.

>And Kimball's constituency is based off of agriculture and brahmin barons interests, which we can influence more so than we would with other constituents. Don't throw out the baby with the bath water.
Don't care.

>>4836216
I see that you're emotionally invested in giving Kimball the stick. Foolish of me to try and reason with you.

And shutting off the dam may do us more PR harm than good, we'd be doing it over diplomatic talks instead of realpolitik actions.

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>>4836226
>I see that you're emotionally invested in giving Kimball the stick
Not really, I just don't think you've made a single genuinely good argument.

>Foolish of me to try and reason with you.
k.

>And shutting off the dam may do us more PR harm than good, we'd be doing it over diplomatic talks instead of realpolitik actions.
And? It'd be their fault for breaching the deal even before mentioning the other issues.

>>4836235
>shutting down the dam over petty threats

Because that totally doesn't seem autistic to me.

And they haven't breached the deal, they're attempting to renegotiate.

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anyone else just waiting for OP's update?

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>>4836256
Pretty much, I've said my piece. There's a lot of info to process, walls of text to sift through and anons getting petty. This quest must be a lot of work, QM is doing great.

>>4836247
>Petty threats
"We claim all the land around you" is a petty threat?

>And they haven't breached the deal, they're attempting to renegotiate.
The terms of our deals gave them a set percentage of costless dam production and declared the prices to be used for further exchange; they demand a change in the percentage given without charge which breaches the terms of our deal. You could even make an argument that it breaches the price agreement (if one wished to count the two deal-parts separately) since a change in the freely-given % would affect their buying practices and the deal was negotiated with the prior % in mind.

Further, this isn't renegotiation and you know it. This is intimidation.

>>4836256
Of course. We've many matters to attend to like sending scouts north and beginning some colonisation east. Amongst other actions.

Might also introduce a head tax: one cap per person per year; 61,000 persons would mean an effective increase in income per month of 5,000 caps (rounding down to nearest thousand, assuming the little difference would be used for tax collectors and so on); it's a fairly low tax rate but means growing our population provides direct returns where as currently only growing our tourism or import / export market does.

>>4836247
>And they haven't breached the deal, they're attempting to renegotiate.
Nigga they tryin ta get free shit from us.

>>4836268
>dat image
Kek

And I agree, it must be tough to shift through. On the flip side, you have anons highly invested in the quest, so he's doing something right.

Case in point, >>4836269.

>>4836269
>"We claim all the land around you" is a petty threat?

The NCR was stretched thin and overextended before we came into power, and that was without a major power in play. They can't make those borders a reality without our acceptance, which they ain't going to get.

Second, they haven't broken the terms of the deal in reality, they've just seriously damaged the spirit of the deal. There is a difference, even if it's indistinguishable in realpolitik.

And are we intimidated? I see no cowed heads here.

>>4836284
And they ain't gonna get free shit nigga, they gonna pay for it one way or another. We won't forget the shit they be trying to pull.

>>4836256
QM dead

Okay the DT for the cazador nest will be lower, though there will not be the +2 for the lack of urban terrain

IThe PG armor will be stripped and combined at the end of the operation.

I have not forgotten about Heck, don't worry. Trust the #QManon

>the courier is exploring Fortification Hill
>the Dirty Dozen is deploying north with 40 Securitrons to wipe out the nests
>we're meeting with Arcade
>talk with the Bright Followers
>1000 caps to pay for clearing the sewers, will take a month
>1500 caps a turn to pay for waste transportation
Julie Farkas will provide the cost estimate and timeframe for bathhouse system next turn
>Raul continues his training
>Doc Henry starts studying Vault 22 data
>500 caps to clean up Nipton of bodies and rubble
>Continue Powder Ganger operation in the South
>Scavs and Rex + Roxie will search freeside for anything worth fixing up and selling on the market
>Buy anything that is scavenged from the banks of the Colorado


No role for Courier
1d100 (DT 30) Cazador extermination
1d100 (DT 45) Powder Ganger Operation
1d100 (DT 60) Rex Roxie Scav operation

>>4836268
<3

Rolled 76 (1d100)

>>4836303
Yo

Rolled 96 (1d100)

>>4836303
noice

>>4836305
blessed roll

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>>4836303
can we get a roll for the remaining fiends too, or did we wipe them out completely?

>>4836311
HA HA WOW

Rolled 55 (1d100)

>>4836296
>Case in point
>Implying

>The NCR was stretched thin and overextended before we came into power, and that was without a major power in play. They can't make those borders a reality without our acceptance, which they ain't going to get.
That doesn't change it being a major threat. A threat is a threat no matter if you can actually follow through on it.

>Second, they haven't broken the terms of the deal in reality, they've just seriously damaged the spirit of the deal. There is a difference, even if it's indistinguishable in realpolitik.
They have. I even laid out how plain as day; you just don't want to admit it.

>And are we intimidated? I see no cowed heads here.
Yet you seek to sacrifice a fuck-ton of our dam's supply for some stupid-ass plan to save Kimball's presidency, just to be able to charge a variable rate on the water in future? As if it actually produces better results than having a negotiated price whenever we're acting as two nationstates.

>And they ain't gonna get free shit nigga, they gonna pay for it one way or another. We won't forget the shit they be trying to pull.
Kek. "They'll pay!" he says as he props up a failing presidency and sacrifices NV resources. "They're gonna pay for it one way or another"? Well why not as I advise? Why not now?

>>4836303
Dice, don't fail me now!

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>>4836318
55 + Rex(3) + Roxie(3) = SUCCESS
CLUTCH!

WE DID IT LADS!

>>4836318
>That doesn't change it being a major threat. A threat is a threat no matter if you can actually follow through on it.
Not a threat reallyish unless someone more competent replaces Kimball. Don't worry senpai, the NCR is just puffing up it's chest.

I don't know about the rest of your post, but I think we should do what we can to keep Kimball as presidency for however long him term or second term last. Not because he's fair or we like him, but because he's stupid and can probably be cowed. By us.
>WRESTLE MANINA HERE I CUM!

>>4836329
>Not a threat reallyish unless someone more competent replaces Kimball.
A threat is a threat is a threat. Doesn't matter if it is a 80 year old blind quad amputee with brittle bones or a demigod.

>Don't worry senpai, the NCR is just puffing up it's chest.
I'm the one advocating to call their bluff. Not you. Don't act like you are the "brave" one.

>I don't know about the rest of your post, but I think we should do what we can to keep Kimball as presidency for however long him term or second term last. Not because he's fair or we like him, but because he's stupid and can probably be cowed. By us.
Fair enough, I'd prefer a competent leader who we can work with than a foolish jackass who we can't. Kimball has not struck me as competent or capable of good reasoning from what little action we've seen of him.

Further, I don't think his presidency would continue even with your attempt at "saving him". The man spent the last 7 years trying to conquer the Mojave and lost massive public support in doing so. I have serious doubts that he will last, and he knows it, which is why he has made this final push in hopes he can buoy support by being seen as a good leader. He tied himself to the success of conquering the Mojave and lost it entirely.

All successes....not bad

>>4836318
Flipping out over a threat reaks of insecurity, and we can turn the Mojave into their personal Vietnam if need be.

As I have said before, the spirit of the deal was broken, not the technical terms of it. They haven't been stealing our output or pulling out their contractors, have they?

Honestly, I think you have a hard-on for nailing Kimball to the cross.

>>4836338
I'd only prefer competent NCR leadership if they are either a pacifist or directly help us. Make no sense to exchange an incompetent warmonger for a competent one.

Rolled 2 (1d2)

>>4836346
letsee here

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>>4836372
coin flip

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Arcade: I’ll make this quick, as I know you’re very busy being the autocrat of your own nation. With most of the Followers having left to return to the NCR, we’re short on trained professionals. Julie Farkas is the best choice for your Health secretary and I hope you listen to her, but that takes away focus from her job with the Followers. I have volunteered to be the new branch leader. I’ll still probably run into you quite a bit as you seem to rely on us quite a bit, but for now I’m needed here. Well I’ll let you get back to it but promise me something Courier, please don’t turn into Sallow. You’re a good man, I know that, but absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Valeas

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>>4836372

>>4836404
We're too cool to be an Edward. We're a squiggle, but Ceasar was a square.

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Walking through Freeside, you’re approached by a particularly scruffy vagrant in soiled clothing. Luckily for you, you’ve become quite adept at recognizing members of the frumentarii, Caesar’s elite spy corp. Reaching for your weapon, he holds his hands up.

You truly are as perceptive as I was warned about. Courier, I am not here on bad terms. I was sent to negotiate with you regarding something only you can accomplish for us. If you refuse to hear me out, I ask to be let go in peace. You may not think it, but there is honor in this line of work.

>Response

>>4836404
At least you'll be around to keep us honest, Arcade.

>>4836423
Well, now you've got my curiosity.

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>>4836369
>Flipping out over a threat reaks of insecurity.
"Flipping out" is something that benefits us and is a reasonable response to what they are doing if we take it seriously which is a fair enough thing to do no matter if it is serious or not. Also, not protesting and standing up to them is a sign of weakness. I'd rather be insecure than passive or weak.

>As I have said before, the spirit of the deal was broken, not the technical terms of it. They haven't been stealing our output or pulling out their contractors, have they?
I say they've broken terms, you say they haven't. Either one of us is wrong based off of their own views, lets just agree to disagree so I can stop having to write "but they have" in different ways.

>Honestly, I think you have a hard-on for nailing Kimball to the cross.
Not really, I don't care about him beyond the fact is he acting against us. Entirely honestly I hadn't put much thought to his continued existence, with what little I had presuming he'd decide to focus on the Baja situation or be busy trying to not get kicked out of office early.

>I'd only prefer competent NCR leadership if they are either a pacifist or directly help us. Make no sense to exchange an incompetent warmonger for a competent one.
That presumes the next one will be a war monger whenever their last war was a 7 year boondoggle that saw them lose and not get anything for it besides death and taxes.

>>4836372
Worrying.

>>4836423
State your piece.


Peace with Caesar would be valuable, even if I doubt it worth what cost he shall ask.

>>4836423
Let him know that if he's fucking with us, we will cave his head in like what we did with his boss.
Speak. What are you doing in Freeside.

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Caesar is sick, his health quickly deteriorating since the second failure of Hoover Dam. The best doctor we have procured has diagnosed him with a brain tumor. He refused to operate on it, stating its advanced nature as making the surgery impossible. Your medical skills are legendary, second to none we know of. You are also no friend of the NCR, even if you are no friend of ours either. We ask you for one of two things. You travel to Legion land and operate on Caesar, removing the tumor, or you provide us with an AutoDoc capable of conducting such an advanced operation. In return, Caesar will grant you one boon. I am not allowed to discuss what that boon could be, only Lucius or Caesar has that honor.

>>4836448
Yeah, fair enough; ain't a bad deal even. All in favour of going?

>>4836437
>rather be insecure than passive or weak
>implying it's not both

I was taking a legal perspective, but I do agree that the spirit of the deal was broken.

And we don't know what candidates will be coming out of the woodwork for the next NCR election.

>>4836448
>>4836451
Aye.

>>4836448
After killing Lanius, why come to us? Was there no other?
I want some things before I consider going. All Brotherhood of Steel personnel if you have any, NCR troopers if still alive, and citizen of new Vegas, Enclave (doubt you have any), any ghoul slave if you have any- I'm not suggesting you go out and enslave ghouls,
I also want that Howitzer you guys had and the ammo that comes with it, in addition to save passable for myself any any of my agents throughout Legion territory.

>>4836451
>>4836455
this is a perfect chance to put the squeeze on them. We can barter.

>>4836448
I would also like to know of any other Legion spies you've snuck into Vegas. I will also be taking with me a detail of Securitron guards.

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>>4836458
>In return, Caesar will grant you one boon. I am not allowed to discuss what that boon could be, only Lucius or Caesar has that honor.

This is some funny shit.

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>>4836468
Ah fuck me I missed that part. Gotta go talk to him first.

>>4836448
Uh. Yeah, Lets agree, but lets do it discretely.

>>4836458
Lanius was a failure, not worthy to wear the mask or armor. This is why we crucified his body on the banks of the Colorado, looking at his greatest defeat for eternity. I am not in a position to negotiate terms, nor do I know of any spies currently in New Vegas. I can tell you that all NCR personnel were executed when we left the dam. As for the Securitron detail, I ask if you truly need it. You killed Lanius, our greatest warrior, in single combat within a minute.

>>4836476
It's not a matter of if I can kill you all, it's how fast I can.
Let's goooooo. Did we take Lanius's armor? I hope we can take it.

>>4836448
"He's dying, eh? Good. I'm sure you know what I did to Lanius. Don't come back."

What in the hell do these guys think they can offer us? Slaves? Don't do that here. Medical expertise? Obviously not. Tech? Hilarious. Valuable trade? Ehhh... not gonna be worth it.

Dealing with them would set back a lot of our built up relations with all the people closest to us. We let Boone know they've got spies coming in.

>>4836476
Yeah and yet I am going where there are the rest of your warriors, I'd rather not play the game of hoping you consider the cost of my death a Pyrrhic victory.

>>4836480
We could demand they pull out of Utah / Colorado near our border + potential future expansion areas. That alone would be worth it: knowing that the Legion aren't going to fuck with us would grant us so much more leeway in being able to expand and improve our position by giving us a secure border to work with.

>>4836476
Sure. No Securitron detail, we don't need it and we and to be discrete.

>>4836496
Yeah, that'd be for the best probably.

>>4836480
Slaves would actually be valuable. it would buy us clout with some factions, but might get us mixed results from the NCR if we tell them we got their troopers freed in exchange for saving the rule of their greatest foe.
We could also get their howitzer, lore wise they have some trucks I think, they could give us raw resources to trade with.

TBF if we don't like where it's going, we could just choose to kill Ceasar on the spot, then everyone around him.

The problem I see here is that without Ceasar to make the legion somewhat competent, the NCR will be able to focus it's undivided attention on us, Vegas and all her people. Ceasar is an old man and will eventually die of old age, so little to worry about an eternal reign of terror from him.

>>4836487
I think we should milk this cow for what she's worth, but that's a good deal. I still think throwing in faction slaved, Mojave citizens, and skilled laborers to give jobs would really bolster our economy.

>>4836496
fair.

>>4836476
No securitrons, but I guess we could wear our advanced scout armor and use stealth boys.

>>4836498
Problem with that is your idea reveals we had involvement / dealt with the Legion while mine just has them leaving mysteriously, which is far harder to incriminate us with.

>>4836479
You took his mask and sword, not his armor.

Caesar appreciates your discretion about the matter in regards to your protection detail. If you agree to the proposition, meet at the given coordinates in two weeks time. Vulpes Inculta will be there waiting for you. If a full day passes, he will assume you have denied the proposition. Vale.

With that, he walks off towards the Freeside Eastern gate, leaving you with a piece of paper with map coordinates.

>>4836507
w e n e e d t h e a r m o r f o r t h e c o l l e c t i o n.

cool beans.

>>4836509
This. We need it for the Museum.

>>4836498
>The problem I see here is that without Ceasar to make the legion somewhat competent, the NCR will be able to focus it's undivided attention on us, Vegas and all her people. Ceasar is an old man and will eventually die of old age, so little to worry about an eternal reign of terror from him.

Agreed. We need him alive in the short-term, and getting a boon will help us immensely.

>>4836507
So that's a Courier action gone. Not going to lie, I'm a bit excited to see where this leads.

>not his armor
But muh collection!

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>>4836511
>THE COURIER'S MUESUEM OF PEOPLE'S ASS'S HE'S KICKED

>>4836519
man I love Fallout NPC greentexts

The funny thing is, the Courier has loot from every enemy he had ever killed, meaning he could create a museum very easily.

>>4836523
It's settled. Let's establish a tourist attraction in Freeside.

Okay so supposing we DID make a museum of dead cultures / general history, here'd be at least a few exhibits: BOS; Enclave; NCR; Legion; Powder Gangers; Fiends; Vipers; Khans [other assorted raiders]; White Legs; Dead Horses; The Sorrows; [other assorted tribes]; New Canaanites; Pre-War China / US; Ordinary human history besides that.

We could even turn Vault 21 from a hotel into a vault section for a museum. It'd arguably be a better use of the limited high quality space.

Fucking siiick art of the legionary with the vulture.

Let's go grab Ulysses & bring him along for the trip. Share our point of view along the way. Also bring Rex & ED-E. Have ED-E map out the terrain as we go for future expansion purposes. Rex was once owned by someone in the Legion right?

Demand free passage for our merchants through Legion territory, any advanced tech they've recovered, the howitzer & ammo, the chem stockpile I can only assume they have from being tee-totallers, & a written as well as publicly announced throughout the lands of the Legion agreement of no further expansion towards the Colorado.

We'll also take any Enclave, BoS, Ghouls, or any others with advanced scientific, medical, or engineering knowledge.

That is the price if Caesar wishes to live.

>>4836537
>Let's go grab Ulysses
>Incidentally, run into Graham
>Caesar just sat in bed wondering if the tumour is causing hallucinations

>>4836540
Image his fucking face. We saved him from a brain tumor, only for him to suffer a heart attack.

>>4836540
>be Caesar, on the verge of death from brain tumor
>Last ditch effort, have the courier come and heal me
>fading in and out of consciousness, shadows approach me
>see my old faithful companion Rex
>so, this is heaven
>then see Ulysses
>And Joshua Graham
>And Legate Lanius
>what the fuck

>>4836546
At that point, I'd hope we're smart enough to say "Lanius is busy parking the car" or some shit.

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>>4836547
>We're standing at each side of the bed
>start shaking the side of the bed and make spooky ghost noises
>Ceaser fucking pissed himself unconscious
>Ulyssess normally stoicism breaks as he doubles over the bed post for support as he dying from laughter
>Graham is LITERALLY dying from laughter
>he's laughing so head his bandages start to bleed as he makes pained wet gurges
> Ceasar honor guard look inside before noping on outta there

>>4836554
>courier, PLEASE stop making ghost noises while wearing Lanius's mask, you're scaring the legionaries

>>4836563
Oh now we need to wear his mask when we get there.
Voting to make ghost noises while wearing Lanius's old mask to scare legion people two weeks from now.

LMFAO I had no idea what kind of out-takes I would create with that idea but I love the results.

>Graham starts telling all the gawking onlookers how he got his scars
>unwraps his whole arm
>"and this one I got when I was set on fire & thrown into the Grand Canyon"
>stares at Caesar while reciting the Lord's Prayer, trying not to snap
>Caesar's sweat-soaked bald-head is shinier than Graham's .45
>Unwraps his entire torso
>"now this one I got when I fell down a cliff, after being set on fire; the cliff was the Grand Canyon"
>Praetorians slowly backing out of the room

>Caesar lying in bed late at night when he is awoken by a noise
>"HARK, I am the ghost of Legion past!" calls Graham
>"HARK, I am the ghost of Legion present!" calls us in Lanius's mask
>"HARK, I am the ghost of Legion future!" calls Ulysses
>Caesar suffers minor brain haemorrhage out of sheer confusion and fear.

+1 to grabbing Graham if possible, +1.5 to wearing the mask

>4836577
HOLY SHIT MY SIDES

>We try to imitate Lanius' voice under the mask
>Just sound like Sean Connery
>Raul finally catches up, the stairs on the way killing his knees
>"I didn't realize there would be so many celebrities here boss"

I've gotta get some sleep, but I trust that the shenanigans are being left in good hands.

& daily reminder that our psychopathic stormtrooper squad are THE NE'ER-DO-WELL NINETEEN
Robbers of Hapless NCR Tourists!
Banishers of Armed Crackheads to Flavortown!
Ant-Agonizers to Giant Ants!

They really need their own radio series

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MY SIDES:ORBITING FUCKING MARS